Fresh & Fit - Attorney Andrew Branca Meets FreshandFit

00:10:56.000 Yeah, we are live.

00:10:57.000 Welcome to the Fresh Podcast, man.

00:10:57.000 What's up, guys?

00:10:59.000 We got a special guest in the house.

00:11:00.000 We've got Andrew Branke in the house.

00:11:00.000 I'm really excited for this one.

00:11:01.000 Let's go.

00:11:38.000 All right.

00:11:53.000 We are live.

00:11:53.000 What's up, guys?

00:11:54.000 Welcome to the Fresh A Podcast.

00:11:55.000 We got a special guest in the house.

00:11:56.000 I'm really excited for this one, man.

00:11:57.000 We got angry in the house.

00:11:59.000 What's up, Shuffle?

00:12:00.000 How are you?

00:12:01.000 True pleasure to be here.

00:12:02.000 I'm doing great.

00:12:03.000 We're happy to have you.

00:12:05.000 So, I got familiar with your content a couple months ago.

00:12:11.000 And I remember just kind of give you guys the Batman origin story here.

00:12:16.000 As you guys know, after the election last year, Nick Fuentes says on Twitter, your body, our choice forever.

00:12:24.000 Twitter went viral, went absolutely nuts.

00:12:27.000 People started going to his house.

00:12:29.000 Someone tried to actually assassinate him.

00:12:31.000 Death threats, everything, right?

00:12:32.000 Knox's family, whatever.

00:12:33.000 And one of the people that went to his house was this weird, strange woman who went to his house in the pepper spreader.

00:12:40.000 And in my eyes, when I looked at it, I was like, yo, this is 100% clean, the use of force.

00:12:45.000 Like, she walked up to his house.

00:12:46.000 He had been threatened the entire week.

00:12:47.000 You know, I think it was a reasonable use of force.

00:12:49.000 And I came across your video.

00:12:52.000 And in the video, you really, you know, articulated in a very strong fashion where, hey, look, when it comes to self-defense, you don't go on, you know, 2020.

00:13:01.000 Rather, you go on the facts that were presented to you at the time that the use of force was done.

00:13:04.000 And would a reasonable person behave that way?

00:13:06.000 And you don't need to be correct.

00:13:08.000 Yes.

00:13:08.000 You could be wrong, and it can still be a lawful use of force.

00:13:11.000 You just have to be reasonable in what you're doing.

00:13:13.000 In other words, there's reasons for what you're doing.

00:13:16.000 You're basing your decisions on facts, information that you have.

00:13:19.000 And then right there, I was like, wow, this is awesome stuff.

00:13:22.000 So I subscribed to the channel and I've been trying to get him on.

00:13:25.000 I went on Timcast and I know you had one on there and I was like, guys, can you give me his information so I could get a hold of him?

00:13:31.000 And we were able to connect and you're here now and I'm really happy about it.

00:13:34.000 I'm excited.

00:13:35.000 So I know who you are, clearly, but the audience might not.

00:13:38.000 For the people that don't know who you are, can you please introduce yourself?

00:13:40.000 Sure.

00:13:41.000 Well, I'm best known for my self-defense law stuff.

00:13:44.000 Law of self-defense is my law practice.

00:13:46.000 I've been doing that for 34 years, a member of the U.S. Supreme Court bar.

00:13:51.000 And I both represent people in court in self-defense cases and spend most of my time actually teaching people how to be hard to convict, how to be an unattractive target for prosecution if they're ever compelled to defend themselves, their family, or their property against some criminal predator.

00:14:08.000 The other thing I do is legal political commentary on YouTube.

00:14:11.000 I have a channel there, The Andrew Branca Show.

00:14:14.000 It'd be great if people subscribed and checked it out.

00:14:17.000 Talk about lots of the lawfare cases against Trump, the stuff like Abrego Garcia, the immigration case that just came out today.

00:14:25.000 And that's really it.

00:14:26.000 Cool.

00:14:27.000 I guess we can start there.

00:14:29.000 We can start with Abrego Garcia.

00:14:30.000 Can you give people the quick statement of facts and then we can kind of go into what's going on with that and how it's pretty significant?

00:14:38.000 So Abrego Garcia is a guy who came to the U.S. unlawfully and he was given a final order of deportation, I think in 2016, which means you're supposed to get out of the country.

00:14:50.000 And normally they give that to you and then they leave it to you to get out.

00:14:53.000 They trust you to get out.

00:14:55.000 He didn't get out.

00:14:55.000 He stayed.

00:14:56.000 The one thing they did for him was they gave him what's called an order of withholding.

00:15:00.000 He said, listen, if I got to be deported, don't make me go back to El Salvador.

00:15:04.000 There's gangs there who don't like me.

00:15:06.000 And they said, all right, well, if we're not going to deport you someplace, we're not going to deport you to El Salvador.

00:15:11.000 And then he stayed in the U.S. for like six, seven years.

00:15:14.000 Do you have citizenship in another country or no?

00:15:16.000 No.

00:15:17.000 But if you're not allowed to be in the U.S., they can send you anywhere. 0.63

00:15:20.000 It doesn't have to be to your nation of citizenship.

00:15:23.000 Normally, they send you to your nation of citizenship, but he asked not to go there.

00:15:27.000 And then he unlawfully stayed in the U.S. for another like six years, living in Maryland, despite having an order of deportation.

00:15:32.000 From an immigration judge.

00:15:34.000 And then something changed.

00:15:35.000 The Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, said, hey, anyone who's, I believe it was MS-13 member, is now designated to be a terrorist organization.

00:15:44.000 Anyone who's a member is a terrorist.

00:15:46.000 And he had been designated an MS-13 member years ago by the immigration courts.

00:15:52.000 At the time, they weren't a terrorist organization, but now they were.

00:15:55.000 And so once they were, you don't get to have a withholding order anymore.

00:15:59.000 It's not valid.

00:16:00.000 So at that moment, he had to be deported from the U.S. So they went and they grabbed him and they deported him to El Salvador.

00:16:07.000 Well, some legal groups didn't like that.

00:16:09.000 They went to federal court to try to fight to get him back into the U.S. And that's what we've been doing now for months and months with this case.

00:16:16.000 And they brought him back, what, like, I think a month or two ago?

00:16:18.000 A month or two ago.

00:16:19.000 After saying, well, yeah, we can't bring him back.

00:16:21.000 I know a bunch of democrats went down there and visited him.

00:16:24.000 And Margarita's the whole thing.

00:16:26.000 But here's the thing.

00:16:27.000 This is really just a lawfare case against Donald Trump.

00:16:30.000 These are left-wing groups that don't like Donald Trump, don't like what he's doing with immigration.

00:16:35.000 And there is, in fact, no legal authority for this federal court to be doing any of this.

00:16:40.000 Many years ago, Congress said federal courts, because the federal courts only exist because Congress creates them.

00:16:47.000 And Congress decides what jurisdiction, what authority they have, and what limits they have on their authority.

00:16:52.000 And many years ago, Congress made the decision, we don't want our federal district courts full of immigration cases. 0.98

00:16:58.000 We're going to strip immigration law away from the federal district courts and put it in specialized immigration courts.

00:17:04.000 So the federal courts, the district courts, actually, they have no legal authority to handle any immigration matters, but they're pretending that they do.

00:17:14.000 So this judge issuing these orders in the cases of Obrego Garcia is doing so in the complete absence of legal authority.

00:17:21.000 And she's just a judge, I call them rogue judges, a judge in rebellion against the constitutional order, exceeding her lawful authority. 1.00

00:17:30.000 And every time these cases end up working their way up to the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court sides with Trump.

00:17:34.000 He's winning every time it gets up to the Supreme Court.

00:17:37.000 But what they're doing is a delaying action.

00:17:39.000 They're slowing down his agenda.

00:17:42.000 Now, whatever you may think of his agenda, however you may feel about immigration, he is the elected Article II executive branch president of the United States who has legal authority to do certain things.

00:17:52.000 And immigration is one of them where he has authority, the immigration courts have authority, and these federal district court judges just do not.

00:18:00.000 You know, it's really interesting because up until the Sobrego-Garcia case, right, I had never seen the district courts really step in because, you know, it was left to the immigration judges.

00:18:10.000 You got to find an order of removal.

00:18:11.000 You're gone.

00:18:11.000 You're cooked.

00:18:12.000 It is what it is, right?

00:18:13.000 Like an immigration judge rules you deportable.

00:18:15.000 It's over.

00:18:16.000 So it's really interesting to me how the district courts, the only time I've ever seen Title VIII stuff or INA stuff come into a district court is if it's criminal, right?

00:18:23.000 When I was an agent, like, you know, someone human smuggling or, you know, doing some other, you know, illegal re-entry, right?

00:18:30.000 1326, then it will go criminal to the district courts because, you know, it's criminal.

00:18:33.000 But like this administrative status.

00:18:35.000 It's not a matter of immigration status.

00:18:36.000 You violated a criminal statute.

00:18:38.000 Yes, right?

00:18:38.000 Most immigration violations are not criminal.

00:18:40.000 They're civil actions.

00:18:41.000 Yes.

00:18:42.000 So all the civil actions go through the immigration courts.

00:18:44.000 If you violate some felony federal statute, you end up in federal district court.

00:18:48.000 Like, for example, like 8USC 1325, right?

00:18:51.000 That's like illegal entry.

00:18:52.000 Right.

00:18:52.000 But then 1326 is illegal re-entry.

00:18:55.000 That's a felony.

00:18:56.000 So those would go to district court, but then 1325, sometimes you, I mean, you would still, would you still be presented in front of a judge for that?

00:19:03.000 Yeah, I think you would be.

00:19:04.000 But regardless, immigration matters rarely end up in district court.

00:19:07.000 So I was like surprised that they were like.

00:19:09.000 And it's because they tend not to be complicated.

00:19:12.000 I mean, it's almost like a traffic court issue.

00:19:14.000 That's why they don't want them clogging up the federal district courts. 1.00

00:19:17.000 You don't need a full-blown federal judge to handle what's essentially a traffic case.

00:19:22.000 So it's very simple normally.

00:19:23.000 Are you here?

00:19:24.000 You're present in the U.S. Are you here lawfully?

00:19:27.000 If the answer is no, you have to leave.

00:19:29.000 That's how simple it is.

00:19:30.000 So it's not a complicated legal matter.

00:19:32.000 Yeah.

00:19:33.000 No, and the thing with immigration court, and I've been saying this for a while, it's extremely backed up.

00:19:37.000 Like we're talking about people, you know, they got their, they're waiting to see an immigration judge.

00:19:41.000 This is why like when people get arrested and then they get like a release on on recognizance or ROR, they might not see an immigration judge for like five to 10 years.

00:19:49.000 Yeah, if they're already crazy.

00:19:50.000 It's absolutely nuts. 0.63

00:19:50.000 Yeah. 0.63

00:19:51.000 So I can see why the district courts would say, fuck that. 1.00

00:19:54.000 We don't want to deal with this. 0.99

00:19:55.000 Like, this is going to just backlog us.

00:19:57.000 So, they have lots of other stuff they have to handle, right?

00:19:57.000 Right.

00:20:00.000 Lots of civil cases, lots of criminal cases.

00:20:02.000 And they were backed up and Congress said, listen, we're going to clear this backlog out and just set up separate immigration courts to handle all this stuff.

00:20:08.000 Yeah.

00:20:09.000 Yeah.

00:20:10.000 So, um, so I know that he, uh, so what's the latest with that?

00:20:10.000 Okay.

00:20:13.000 So he went to a district judge.

00:20:15.000 Did they file a criminal case against him at all or no?

00:20:18.000 So one of the complications here is that Trump is trying to work with these federal courts as outrageous as they're being.

00:20:25.000 And it's my sense that a lot of these federal courts are issuing lawless orders.

00:20:30.000 And Trump would have, it would be within his constitutional authority to tell these judges, you know what?

00:20:34.000 F yourself.

00:20:35.000 I don't have to follow lawless orders.

00:20:37.000 You're exceeding your authority.

00:20:39.000 I have authority that's plenary, core, to being president that you can't order me about like I'm a clerk in one of your courts.

00:20:45.000 But he's not doing that.

00:20:46.000 He's playing nice and he's working it through the legal system.

00:20:49.000 And he knows every time he gets to the Supreme Court, he ends up winning.

00:20:52.000 So instead of telling these judges to go screw themselves, he's saying, all right, we're going to work through the process.

00:20:57.000 We're going to take it step by step.

00:20:58.000 So this judge had ordered him to bring Obrego Garcia back into the U.S. And he's like, I don't have to do that.

00:21:04.000 There's nothing in the law that says that.

00:21:05.000 But to act like he's working with them, he said, all right, I'll bring him back, but we're going to prosecute him in federal district court for a crime, for human trafficking.

00:21:14.000 Oh, is that what they charged him with?

00:21:15.000 Yeah, human trafficking.

00:21:16.000 Like the, I think 1541, if I'm not mistaken.

00:21:19.000 I don't remember the statute, but they had caught him years ago in Tennessee with a van full of people.

00:21:24.000 Oh, he was smuggling, probably.

00:21:25.000 He was smuggling from Texas up to Maryland.

00:21:27.000 That's probably, can we Google that real quick?

00:21:28.000 They probably hit him with 1324, I think, which is human smuggling.

00:21:31.000 So that might be easy.

00:21:33.000 None of these people in the van had ID.

00:21:35.000 None of them knew what his name was.

00:21:36.000 You know, he just, that was his business.

00:21:38.000 He would drive down to Texas in an empty van, pick up a bunch of people at the border and drive him in country.

00:21:43.000 Yeah, that's 100%.

00:21:43.000 That's why I used to actually, that was literally my specialty when I was in Laredo, Texas.

00:21:46.000 Okay.

00:21:47.000 Was that that exact crime?

00:21:48.000 So, yeah, okay.

00:21:49.000 So they charged them with that.

00:21:50.000 Man, when did he do it, though?

00:21:51.000 Because there are no statute of limitations issue.

00:21:53.000 It was several years ago, but there's no statute of limitations issue.

00:21:56.000 So they had stopped him on the highway, and they called then the Biden administration and said, hey, we got this guy.

00:22:01.000 It looks like he's human trafficking.

00:22:02.000 And Biden said, just kick him loose.

00:22:04.000 But they have all the paperwork.

00:22:05.000 They have the records.

00:22:06.000 They have the names of all the people.

00:22:08.000 So they've decided, all right, well, judge, if you're going to make us bring him back, we'll bring him back, but we're going to prosecute him in criminal court.

00:22:14.000 Now, the judge in the criminal cases says, well, I'm going to release him on bail, which legally is probably the decision the judge is required to make.

00:22:21.000 But then ICE said, well, if you're going to kick him loose on bail in the criminal case, we're going to pick him up on the immigration issue.

00:22:27.000 And what happened today was the judge who's pretending she has authority over the immigration stuff said, I prohibit ICE from taking this guy into custody.

00:22:36.000 And DHS finally, and this may be a groundbreaking moment, I read today in the news just before we went live, DHS has announced, screw that, we're arresting him.

00:22:45.000 Yeah, I was going to say.

00:22:45.000 So for the first time, Trump is telling one of these judges, F you, I'm not following your order.

00:22:51.000 Yeah.

00:22:52.000 Like, you know, you got the Thursday 24.

00:22:55.000 Cool.

00:22:56.000 You're presiding over that.

00:22:57.000 But he's not lawfully here.

00:22:59.000 So ICE can take him all day. 0.99

00:23:00.000 What the fuck are they? 1.00

00:23:01.000 Yep. 1.00

00:23:01.000 Whatever. 1.00

00:23:02.000 That's wild, man.

00:23:03.000 And then they could choose if they want to give him an ROR, but the judge ain't going to choose that.

00:23:07.000 And if you let him go, he's not here legally.

00:23:09.000 They're not going to give him ROR.

00:23:10.000 He's been living illegally in the country for years.

00:23:12.000 He obviously is not obeying the law.

00:23:13.000 Yep.

00:23:14.000 So why do they find it so hard to make sure he's treated with respect?

00:23:17.000 Because I think this is kind of like out of their zone, no?

00:23:20.000 Why do they find it so hard to do what?

00:23:22.000 Like, let Trump do what he has to do.

00:23:25.000 They just hate Trump.

00:23:26.000 So these are all judges that were appointed by Obama.

00:23:29.000 They were appointed by Biden.

00:23:30.000 They're just on the opposite side politically.

00:23:32.000 Got it.

00:23:33.000 So from the Democrats' perspective, they've lost control of the Senate.

00:23:36.000 They've lost control of the House.

00:23:38.000 They've lost control of the presidency.

00:23:40.000 All they have left is all these left-wing judges that are loaded into the judicial branch.

00:23:44.000 Got it.

00:23:45.000 So that's the only club they have left to fight Trump's agenda.

00:23:48.000 So that's what they're using.

00:23:49.000 Makes sense.

00:23:50.000 Here, I'm going to pull up the...

00:23:54.000 Because my phone's going to die here.

00:23:56.000 Just type in a Braco Garcia criminal case.

00:23:57.000 And then I think there should be.

00:24:04.000 Chats, or do you want to? 0.71

00:24:05.000 Brego Garcia?

00:24:06.000 Abrego.

00:24:07.000 A-B-R-E-G-O Abrego. 0.72

00:24:10.000 Armo, you can pull it up on your end if you want.

00:24:13.000 It'll come right up on Twitter for sure.

00:24:15.000 It's on X. Sorry.

00:24:16.000 And what they charged him, what, like a month ago or something like that, if I'm not mistaken, when they brought it back?

00:24:19.000 You know, I lose track of time because I follow so many of these cases.

00:24:22.000 It might have been a couple of months ago, but it's relatively recent.

00:24:24.000 Okay.

00:24:25.000 So there was a recent guy we saw on X talking about his unfair treatment with the police.

00:24:31.000 I believe it was Jacksonville, right?

00:24:33.000 Jacksonville.

00:24:34.000 Guy just got arrested.

00:24:35.000 Kid, black guy with a shot just got arrested in a car.

00:24:38.000 Oh, yeah, we got that video.

00:24:39.000 So if you guys remember that video, he was actually assaulted in his car, apparently, because he didn't want to comply with the police.

00:24:47.000 How would he handle that as self-defense, attorney?

00:24:52.000 Well, the question would be, did he reasonably perceive that he was being the victim of an unlawful use of force?

00:24:58.000 You can defend yourself against unlawful force by the police.

00:25:02.000 It's possible for police to use too much force, for example, more than they're allowed.

00:25:06.000 And if they're using excess of force, you are allowed to defend yourself against that unlawful force.

00:25:10.000 But you better be right that it was unlawful because police are allowed to use force under a lot of circumstances that you or I would not be allowed to do.

00:25:19.000 Police are allowed to punch people in the head while making arrest if the person is not complying with arrest.

00:25:24.000 I can't do that.

00:25:25.000 If someone does something I don't like and I punch them in the head, that's an unlawful assault.

00:25:29.000 But what's an unlawful use of force by me can very well be a lawful use of force by a police officer dealing with a non-compliant suspect.

00:25:37.000 And this, this, I'll call him a kid.

00:25:40.000 I'm sure he was an adult, but I'm of a certain age.

00:25:42.000 This young man, maybe he believed that he was allowed to not be compliant.

00:25:47.000 Maybe he believes he's allowed to demand a supervisor show up or that the cop give him a lengthy explanation or that he can debate the traffic stop on the side of the road.

00:25:56.000 Maybe he genuinely believes that, but that's not the law.

00:25:59.000 The cop doesn't have to do any of that.

00:26:02.000 And if you refuse to comply, the cop is allowed to arrest you.

00:26:06.000 And once he makes the decision to arrest you, no one talks themselves out of arrest.

00:26:10.000 The moment that cop's made the decision he's going to make a lawful arrest of you, he'll just use as much force as is necessary to make that lawful arrest.

00:26:17.000 In this case, they broke out the car window because he wouldn't get out of the car.

00:26:20.000 They dragged him out of the car.

00:26:22.000 I think one of the cops punched him in the head once or twice.

00:26:25.000 The use of force was actually very brief.

00:26:27.000 It was five seconds maybe between when they grabbed him in the car, got him on the ground, and he was handcuffed.

00:26:33.000 But it looks ugly because uses of force always look ugly.

00:26:36.000 They never look present.

00:26:38.000 And this young man in the car, he recorded some of this from the perspective of his cell phone camera.

00:26:43.000 And from that perspective, it looked terrible because you didn't see everything proceeding to the event.

00:26:48.000 So all you see is the window smashing.

00:26:50.000 He gets grabbed out of the car, thrown to the ground.

00:26:52.000 It looks terrible.

00:26:53.000 But when you watch the longer body-worn camera footage, this young man had every opportunity to lawfully comply, present his license, do all the things he has a legal duty to do.

00:27:05.000 You're required to do those things.

00:27:07.000 And he just refused.

00:27:09.000 And if you refuse to do the things you have a legal duty to do, you're subject to arrest.

00:27:13.000 And if you refuse to comply with arrest, the police will use whatever force is necessary to compel your compliance.

00:27:19.000 Yeah, people only saw the video clip where he posted.

00:27:21.000 And we have it here.

00:27:22.000 Let's pull it up real quick.

00:27:23.000 It looks nasty.

00:27:24.000 The cell phone video looks nasty.

00:27:25.000 Yeah, the cell phone one looks bad.

00:27:26.000 But as always, there's more context to it.

00:27:29.000 So actually, yeah, this is why.

00:27:30.000 So I go here. 1.00

00:27:31.000 Black people wonder why they get fucked up by the cops with this stupid shit like this. 1.00

00:27:36.000 You morons create police brutality by being non-compliant retards. 1.00

00:27:40.000 You guys need to follow me on X if you guys want more, you know, uncensored takes like this. 1.00

00:27:40.000 Hey, man. 1.00

00:27:44.000 Let's make it big on our end, Mo.

00:27:46.000 All right.

00:27:47.000 So the bottom is what he posted on TikTok.

00:27:50.000 The top is from the body cam.

00:27:51.000 And there's the window about to break right there.

00:27:53.000 That's the cop's window breaking tool he's using.

00:27:56.000 Yep.

00:27:56.000 Yeah.

00:27:57.000 Let's roll the clip.

00:28:01.000 Is there a reason why you pop the door open like that?

00:28:07.000 There's a reason why I'm pulling the reflection.

00:28:07.000 Absolutely.

00:28:09.000 One thing you implement on the web.

00:28:11.000 Two things you're not wearing your seatbelt.

00:28:12.000 It's daylight.

00:28:13.000 I don't need the lights.

00:28:14.000 And it's not raining.

00:28:15.000 Oh, this is an inclement?

00:28:15.000 It's not raining.

00:28:16.000 It's not raining.

00:28:16.000 Okay, I'm not arguing with you.

00:28:18.000 I'm telling you why I'm pulling you over.

00:28:19.000 Give me your driver's license, registration, proof of insurance.

00:28:21.000 Call your supervisor.

00:28:21.000 No, no.

00:28:22.000 Excuse me?

00:28:24.000 Why did you pull me over?

00:28:24.000 Call your supervisor.

00:28:27.000 It's 37, 37, 35. 1.00

00:28:28.000 I'm fucking with the driver. 0.99

00:28:29.000 I've already told you. 1.00

00:28:30.000 Why did you pull me over?

00:28:31.000 Step out of the vehicle.

00:28:33.000 No.

00:28:33.000 Step out of the vehicle.

00:28:34.000 Why did you pull me over?

00:28:34.000 Day.

00:28:38.000 I almost think there's either he believes he's allowed to do these things, like he's been miseducated on what he's required to do.

00:28:44.000 That can happen.

00:28:45.000 Or he just wants to be viral.

00:28:46.000 Yeah.

00:28:47.000 And the other thing, too, I tell people all the time, like, bro, when the cops stop you, there's no debate.

00:28:52.000 There's no conversation. 1.00

00:28:52.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:28:54.000 There's nothing to talk about, man. 1.00

00:28:55.000 And all you're doing is making things worse for yourself, trying to argue with them.

00:28:57.000 Like, let the lawyer do that when you get to court. 0.64

00:28:59.000 You shut the hell up and you comply. 0.97

00:29:01.000 And by the way, it turned out the cops didn't see it until after he was cuffed up, but it turned out he had a large unsheathed knife on the floorboard right at his feet. 0.95

00:29:10.000 If the cops had seen that before they got him out of the car, he could well have been shot.

00:29:14.000 Yep.

00:29:15.000 Absolutely.

00:29:16.000 you know um let's keep going 25 seconds.

00:29:25.000 And I took the knife on.

00:29:26.000 Driver just slammed it down.

00:29:28.000 You guys pause.

00:29:29.000 Like me, from my law enforcement experience, the window's tinted like that.

00:29:33.000 This obviously escalates how you have to move. 0.99

00:29:36.000 You got to get him out of there quickly because you don't know what the fuck is in there, right? 0.97

00:29:39.000 You can't see as well because there's some tints there. 0.98

00:29:42.000 So that's a high percentage of tint.

00:29:45.000 Yeah, really dark.

00:29:46.000 From a law enforcement perspective, right? 0.99

00:29:47.000 Not only did he not comply with your commands, your lawful commands, and being rambunctious, now you can't even see what the fuck he's doing. 0.97

00:29:54.000 And we can see the reflection, the environmental circumstances, right? 0.96

00:29:59.000 The bottom line is if the cop cannot see your hands, that becomes a life-threatening situation for the cops.

00:30:04.000 He's got to be able to see your hands.

00:30:05.000 When I was in the academy, the number one thing they teach you, two things, you're always going to go home at night.

00:30:09.000 And then number two, you need to see the hands.

00:30:11.000 If you don't see the hands, you do whatever you need to do to see the hands.

00:30:14.000 Because the hands are the only things that could really hurt you. 1.00

00:30:17.000 So yeah, like right now, he's escalated this significantly like an idiot. 1.00

00:30:21.000 And people forget, cops have families too. 1.00

00:30:22.000 They want to go home safe as well.

00:30:24.000 Not just a person.

00:30:25.000 And not only that, bro, they indoctrinate you in the police camps, whether it's a federal academy like the FBI or us, HSI, or a local police or state police.

00:30:32.000 All police training in America is you will go home, you'll win the fight.

00:30:36.000 And they show you hours upon hours of footage of cops getting killed in the line of duty so that you're always vigilant and not, you know, by being complacent, how it kills you by not looking at the hands.

00:30:46.000 So they indoctrinate you to always have this mindset where, yo, I need to see the hands. 1.00

00:30:51.000 If I don't, I'm going to fuck you up. 0.99

00:30:52.000 Because at least with us, you look at it like the controls in our hands. 1.00

00:30:56.000 We ain't going to kill this guy, but we don't know what the fuck he's trying to do with us. 0.99

00:30:59.000 To agree. 0.99

00:31:00.000 And it's for good reason.

00:31:01.000 So every traffic stop is dangerous for a cop, right?

00:31:03.000 He doesn't know that person.

00:31:04.000 He doesn't know what's in the car.

00:31:05.000 People have weapons in their car.

00:31:07.000 But if the person's cooperative, the cop stays cool.

00:31:10.000 But the moment this happens and the person becomes obstructive, now the risk to the cop goes, not just the cop, but also to the suspect, goes through the roof.

00:31:18.000 I cover a lot of cases where the scenario goes sideways like this and somebody ends up dying.

00:31:24.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:31:26.000 So, yeah.

00:31:28.000 So multiple different things are going on here, not complying, tinted windows, being rambunctious.

00:31:34.000 You don't know what's in the car.

00:31:35.000 Can't see his hand.

00:31:36.000 This obviously escalates it to a significant degree.

00:31:38.000 We'll keep playing it.

00:31:43.000 I've already told you.

00:31:45.000 Okay.

00:31:47.000 Okay.

00:31:49.000 Right now you're under arrest for resisting.

00:31:52.000 This is something that I'll say, I guarantee you, because Jacksonville has a lot of bad neighborhoods, right?

00:31:58.000 Now, one of the things that cops do a lot of the times is they'll conduct a traffic stop, right?

00:32:04.000 But they're being proactive to try to detect crime.

00:32:06.000 Yeah.

00:32:07.000 And we don't know if this is a violent neighborhood or excuse me, a dangerous neighborhood or not, but that would also add to the threat level as well.

00:32:13.000 If they're pulling him over somewhere where it's not the best area or we know he might be a member of a gang because Jacksonville has a huge gang problem.

00:32:21.000 Huge.

00:32:21.000 So that's something else to also keep in mind is that police officers conduct traffic stops all the time to kind of prevent crime and pull people over, Figure out who they are, et cetera.

00:32:31.000 It's an investigative tool that they utilize a lot.

00:32:33.000 Yeah, so I never actually knew you were in law enforcement until just now when you mentioned it.

00:32:38.000 But you'll know that, of course, cops have to have reasonable suspicion to stop you.

00:32:42.000 Now, if you're in a vehicle, there's almost always something they can come up with for reasons.

00:32:45.000 And that's on purpose.

00:32:47.000 But if there's a light out or the wipers aren't on in the rain or whatever, you didn't use your blinker to change lanes, they need some legal excuse to pull you over.

00:32:55.000 But often there's a broader reason to pull you over, investigative purposes, because a very high percentage of traffic stops for little ticky-tacky reasons turn into bigger offenses.

00:33:05.000 They find contraband, they find weapons, they find warrants.

00:33:09.000 And so, as you say, it's an investigative tool for them.

00:33:11.000 Now, this car, by the way, had a lot of body damage on it.

00:33:14.000 Like, the hood is buckled up.

00:33:15.000 It has front end.

00:33:16.000 It's got dents all over.

00:33:17.000 So this cop might have been thinking, oh, maybe this is a DUI.

00:33:20.000 Maybe this guy just got in an accident.

00:33:21.000 So that's not a good reason to stop him.

00:33:24.000 Lots of cars have dents, but he didn't have his wipers on, didn't have his headlight.

00:33:27.000 I can stop him for that.

00:33:28.000 And then I can see whether or not this might be a DUI accident.

00:33:31.000 Absolutely.

00:33:32.000 I mean, I'll give you an example.

00:33:33.000 So when I was on a job, right, what we would do is we would let a bad guy do a drug buy, right?

00:33:38.000 We would maybe do a control purchase of firearms or drugs or something like that.

00:33:42.000 And the individual would drive away.

00:33:43.000 We'd have a trooper stop them an hour or two later, right, as they're driving home, ID who they are.

00:33:50.000 Okay.

00:33:51.000 You know, I'm going to cut you guys a break.

00:33:52.000 You guys have tinted.

00:33:54.000 Just get it fixed.

00:33:54.000 Okay, for me?

00:33:55.000 They think they got off scot-free, but now we know who was in the car, who the bad guys are, further the investigation that way.

00:33:55.000 Boom.

00:33:55.000 Let them go.

00:34:01.000 So it happens a lot where you'll do traffic stops.

00:34:04.000 You use a uniform guy to do it, but you'll use it to identify everyone that was in the vehicle.

00:34:08.000 So it's a huge investigative tool, man.

00:34:10.000 We used to do this all the time.

00:34:11.000 Call it cover stops.

00:34:13.000 So we can keep going.

00:34:17.000 But yeah, this is active policing.

00:34:18.000 You know what I mean?

00:34:19.000 Being proactive is good.

00:34:22.000 You understand?

00:34:23.000 You're under arrest for resisting.

00:34:25.000 The longer you take us on, the worse it's going to be.

00:34:28.000 Open the door and exit, or we are going to break the window.

00:34:30.000 Open the door and exit.

00:34:31.000 You are under arrest for resisting.

00:34:34.000 Open the door and exit.

00:34:36.000 We're under arrest for resisting.

00:34:44.000 In the full body cam.

00:34:44.000 Okay.

00:34:46.000 Open the door and exit.

00:34:47.000 You are under arrest for resisting.

00:34:52.000 Open the door and exit.

00:34:54.000 You are under arrest for resisting.

00:34:58.000 I'm about to break the window.

00:35:02.000 I'm about to break the window.

00:35:07.000 Keep it real, though.

00:35:08.000 Do you need that many cops?

00:35:10.000 And I can tell you why.

00:35:10.000 You do.

00:35:11.000 Because the more cops, the faster you can secure with this person, the less risk you have of it escalating to deadly force.

00:35:18.000 So a lot of times if the cop stays by himself, if he doesn't call for backup, he gets in a fight with that suspect and he loses the fight.

00:35:24.000 The suspect gets control of his gun or the cop's afraid he's going to get control of the gun and the cop has to shoot him.

00:35:29.000 I cover lots of cases like that.

00:35:31.000 When you have overwhelming force, you get lots of hands on the suspect.

00:35:34.000 You can get them cuffed up.

00:35:35.000 It's always safer.

00:35:36.000 It's safer.

00:35:37.000 It's actually safer because the threat level, if you're in a one-on-one fight, it's do or die.

00:35:40.000 You're more likely to actually get shot fighting a cop one-on-one than if, and a female cop, especially are going to get shot. 1.00

00:35:46.000 Nothing scarier than a female cop, man. 1.00

00:35:48.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:35:48.000 Bro, you guys try to fight with a female cop one-on-one, she's going to shoot you right away. 1.00

00:35:52.000 Just so you guys know. 0.98

00:35:53.000 Because on her side, she can articulate that you're bigger than her.

00:35:56.000 She can articulate that you're stronger than her.

00:35:58.000 She can articulate that if you hit her one time, she gets knocked out and she can go.

00:36:01.000 All she has to do is prove that you are a threat to her life, which is going to be significantly easier because she's smaller and you're bigger.

00:36:06.000 And she's going to probably walk for her life.

00:36:09.000 And it's going to be easier for her.

00:36:10.000 So that's what it comes down to, man.

00:36:12.000 It's relative.

00:36:13.000 So yeah, the more cops, the better.

00:36:14.000 And then ironically enough, the more cops that are there, the better for you.

00:36:18.000 So, you know what I mean?

00:36:20.000 For the suspect at least.

00:36:22.000 And it's also a deterrent, too, when all those cops show up.

00:36:24.000 We can keep going.

00:36:28.000 Exit the vehicle now.

00:36:30.000 Exit the vehicle.

00:36:32.000 Show me your hands.

00:36:33.000 Here.

00:36:41.000 What is your reason?

00:36:42.000 Step out.

00:36:43.000 What is your reason?

00:36:44.000 Step out.

00:36:51.000 No, don't.

00:36:52.000 Don't fight.

00:36:53.000 I'm so sorry.

00:36:54.000 Put your hands behind your back.

00:36:55.000 I'm resisting.

00:36:57.000 Look, I ain't going to lie. 1.00

00:36:58.000 He deserved that 100% fucking dumbass. 1.00

00:37:01.000 100% deserved that shit. 1.00

00:37:02.000 Some of you guys in the comments are like, oh, bro, why did those successor for us? 1.00

00:37:04.000 No, he fucking deserved it, bro. 0.97

00:37:05.000 You know, I would ask him. 1.00

00:37:06.000 If you dumb shit like that, you deserve to get fucked up. 1.00

00:37:08.000 I would ask him. 1.00

00:37:11.000 Just kidding.

00:37:12.000 He actually got an abrasion on his lip.

00:37:14.000 He deserves it.

00:37:15.000 Really?

00:37:15.000 Yeah.

00:37:16.000 But they put your face on the ground because if you control someone's head, you control the whole bot.

00:37:20.000 Yeah.

00:37:21.000 But sometimes, though.

00:37:22.000 Yo, bro, he warned them.

00:37:23.000 This dude closed the thing. 1.00

00:37:24.000 Bro, he deserved to get fucked up like that. 1.00

00:37:26.000 And people always, they always fuck around and then they find out, then they cry, oh, what the fuck? 1.00

00:37:30.000 100% clean use of force. 0.99

00:37:32.000 I think the chief actually defended the cops too, didn't he?

00:37:35.000 Well, the chief said this has already been decided.

00:37:37.000 It's not a criminal matter.

00:37:38.000 So they didn't violate any criminal laws.

00:37:40.000 The chief is still exploring whether there might be an administrative policy violation.

00:37:45.000 The guy might get some time off of work, some unpaid leave, that kind of thing, which is a different set of rules.

00:37:50.000 Frankly, I would hope not too.

00:37:52.000 But that's up to the chief to decide.

00:37:54.000 I mean, I don't worry about that kind of thing. 0.99

00:37:55.000 And just so you guys know, before you guys try to make this a fucking, well, not you guys, because you guys are based, but before someone tries to make this a race thing, the chief of police is black. 0.99

00:38:02.000 He gave a press conference. 0.99

00:38:03.000 One of the cops that were on the scene was black. 1.00

00:38:05.000 And he was one of the main ones that threw his ass on the floor. 0.99

00:38:08.000 So this isn't a race issue. 1.00

00:38:09.000 This is a stupidity issue. 1.00

00:38:10.000 Right. 1.00

00:38:12.000 The bottom line is that in almost all cases, it's not the police officer or officers who are making the decision about how much force to use.

00:38:19.000 It's the suspect that is making the decision about how much force is going to be required to get him to comply with lawful commands.

00:38:26.000 And I'm glad you mentioned that because I always tell people, right?

00:38:29.000 Police aren't going to meet you at the same, if you go ahead and you square up against a cop.

00:38:34.000 He's not going to sit there and square up with you.

00:38:36.000 He's going to pull out his baton.

00:38:37.000 He's going to pull out a taser.

00:38:38.000 They have to always ratchet it up one level above you so that they can go ahead and get you into custody.

00:38:43.000 So as soon as you ramp up escalation, they're going to ramp up above you to ensure that they win.

00:38:48.000 You pull out a knife, he pulls out a gun.

00:38:50.000 You pull out your fist, he pulls out a taser.

00:38:52.000 Like, that's just how it goes.

00:38:53.000 And people don't understand this.

00:38:54.000 If the cop wins, the end result is an arrest.

00:38:56.000 If the bad guy wins, the end result is a dead cop.

00:38:59.000 Exactly.

00:38:59.000 It's not the same thing.

00:39:00.000 Absolutely.

00:39:01.000 I didn't pull over in my lifetime four times.

00:39:04.000 Each time I was polite, complied.

00:39:06.000 And I got off scot-free twice.

00:39:08.000 So it's like, this is how you treat the cops, man.

00:39:09.000 You're people, too.

00:39:10.000 Yeah, bro.

00:39:12.000 Most cops are going to let you off of your plight.

00:39:13.000 Yeah.

00:39:14.000 Even if it's a bad cop, what difference does it make?

00:39:16.000 It's only going to go even worse for you if you're controversial.

00:39:19.000 Yeah, right?

00:39:20.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:39:21.000 Confrontational.

00:39:22.000 No, absolutely.

00:39:22.000 So what are your, I mean, I guess, yeah, legally, nothing's going to happen.

00:39:27.000 I'm sure.

00:39:28.000 I do have a question, though.

00:39:29.000 FDLE might get a referral, but I don't think they're going to do anything criminally.

00:39:33.000 FDLE, for those of you that are wondering, is the Florida Department of Law.

00:39:37.000 They do a lot of the internal investigations with police departments.

00:39:41.000 I think it might get referred to them just because of how big it is, but they're probably not going to open up.

00:39:45.000 A punch is non-deadly force.

00:39:47.000 That's not going to get a criminal prosecution.

00:39:48.000 If they had shot him.

00:39:50.000 Yeah.

00:39:50.000 Or they'll open a case and then the AD will decline and then they'll close it.

00:39:53.000 It'll be one of those things.

00:39:54.000 But the question is, though, he's out the car.

00:39:56.000 He's already detained in a way. 0.90

00:39:59.000 Why punch him in the head?

00:40:00.000 No, they punch him before.

00:40:03.000 I believe he's struck in the head in the car.

00:40:05.000 He's sitting in the seat.

00:40:06.000 They hit him in the hand.

00:40:07.000 And then they hit him in the chin so he could fall down.

00:40:09.000 Well, you strike people in the head to distract them, not just to cause physical injury.

00:40:13.000 I mean, you guys do BJJ at all?

00:40:15.000 Not me, but okay.

00:40:16.000 Well, in BJJ, if someone's got, you're trying to get their arms, you're trying to get a limb to control, right?

00:40:20.000 Sometimes people will bury their arms.

00:40:22.000 Well, you start smacking them on the head just so they'll try to block your, and then you got the arm, and then you can grab it.

00:40:28.000 Cops are doing, they got to get your arms too. 0.98

00:40:29.000 They got to get your arms to cuff you. 0.98

00:40:31.000 So they don't want your hands around your waistband or in places they can't see or control.

00:40:36.000 So if they smack you in the head or punch you in the head, your hands are going to come up to defend yourself and then they can secure you.

00:40:41.000 I think they did it fantastically.

00:40:43.000 I think they did great.

00:40:44.000 That guy's lucky that he only got punched and slapped one time. 0.99

00:40:47.000 He could have got fucked up way harder, especially with the knife there. 0.99

00:40:49.000 He could have lost his life. 1.00

00:40:51.000 And yeah, he's an idiot. 1.00

00:40:52.000 And guys, use this as a lesson, bro. 1.00

00:40:54.000 Like, don't fuck with the cops. 1.00

00:40:55.000 Especially just being black. 1.00

00:40:57.000 Be smart about it, man. 0.98

00:40:58.000 Comply and then say goodbye because you want to make it home too, right?

00:41:01.000 I mean, that's fair. 1.00

00:41:02.000 But niggas are stupid, bro. 1.00

00:41:03.000 Let's be honest. 1.00

00:41:03.000 Niggas are dumb. 1.00

00:41:04.000 Niggas are fucking stupid, bro. 1.00

00:41:06.000 You know, I'll say it. 1.00

00:41:07.000 Like, niggas are dumb as fuck. 1.00

00:41:08.000 Oh, you is police brutality. 1.00

00:41:10.000 Shut up, nigga. 1.00

00:41:11.000 Like, your guys are fucking bottom. 1.00

00:41:12.000 I think from this actual video angle, you could tell he thought he was in the right. 0.99

00:41:16.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:41:17.000 It could be.

00:41:18.000 Let me see your supervisor.

00:41:20.000 He thought he was.

00:41:20.000 Get out of here, Joel.

00:41:21.000 He was in the wrong. 1.00

00:41:21.000 Yo, you gotta see your fucking supervisor. 1.00

00:41:23.000 Get the fuck up out of here. 1.00

00:41:24.000 I mean, it's almost like we need a course. 0.99

00:41:26.000 We need a course for these people so they understand what their legal rights are and what the limits of those are.

00:41:31.000 His father should have told him, but I guess he wasn't there.

00:41:34.000 Listen, I get the Chris Brown right now.

00:41:36.000 Is we as people got to understand how the laws work.

00:41:39.000 And if you're wrong with the laws, bro, just follow them because, I mean, what you going to do?

00:41:44.000 And for example, the cops are just doing their job.

00:41:46.000 I mean, at that point, you didn't comply, so goodbye.

00:41:49.000 And again, the worse the cop is, if you imagine a bad cop scenario, the more you need to comply. 0.91

00:41:54.000 That's the guy who's most likely to kill you.

00:41:57.000 So you have to be most compliant with arrest.

00:42:00.000 That's the guy who's out of control, right?

00:42:02.000 These guys were largely, in my opinion, largely in control.

00:42:07.000 Okay, what's the next one? 1.00

00:42:09.000 You should make a course, bro, for black men that are dumb niggas. 1.00

00:42:13.000 They want to help, bro. 1.00

00:42:15.000 Should I call the book that? 1.00

00:42:18.000 Hey, dumb niggas. 1.00

00:42:19.000 Yeah, dumb niggas. 1.00

00:42:20.000 Hey, dumb niggas, we got you. 1.00

00:42:21.000 That's the dumb nigga 101. 1.00

00:42:23.000 Dumb. 1.00

00:42:24.000 Police course 101. 0.99

00:42:25.000 I'm not sure Amazon will take that.

00:42:28.000 I'll write the forward. 1.00

00:42:30.000 Hey, stupid. 1.00

00:42:32.000 Read this book. 1.00

00:42:33.000 No, but all those is like that.

00:42:34.000 Actually, I think they're not even hooked out products.

00:42:38.000 Bro, you know they can't read.

00:42:39.000 It's true.

00:42:40.000 But it's too bad.

00:42:40.000 It's fine.

00:42:41.000 Hopefully they can learn from this example, watch the video, and take it as they should. 0.97

00:42:44.000 But yeah, that nigga was cooked. 1.00

00:42:46.000 It could be like hooked on due process. 0.97

00:42:48.000 Oh, you want to use this as a self-defense thing?

00:42:50.000 Oh, yeah, I want to.

00:42:51.000 I want to.

00:42:51.000 All right, yeah, go ahead.

00:42:52.000 We'll do some scenarios.

00:42:53.000 So listen, Andrew, I am a proud black man that's been living life on the edge for a while.

00:42:59.000 Very black. 0.96

00:43:00.000 The problem is that sometimes, you know, women get irate, they get upset, and they act out in many different ways. 0.96

00:43:07.000 Usually it's with force.

00:43:08.000 Now, in this example here, we're doing a live podcast.

00:43:12.000 This lady gets upset from some words and chooses to use violence against this young man. 1.00

00:43:16.000 Sorry, older man. 0.97

00:43:16.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:43:18.000 Now, women are more violent than men. 1.00

00:43:20.000 Yes, 100%.

00:43:21.000 And I want you to watch this video.

00:43:22.000 And from your experience, tell me how he should have reacted.

00:43:25.000 Or he should have reacted in this case because it should be self-defense.

00:43:29.000 But okay?

00:43:30.000 We can play it.

00:43:33.000 Here we go.

00:43:38.000 Oh, yeah, guys.

00:43:39.000 If you don't mind, Paul, the Page Chair, Press Print CEO on Rumble, we go crazy with it Tuesdays and Thursdays for the after-hour show, and it gets lit.

00:43:45.000 So go check it out.

00:43:48.000 Guys, like, give me your money.

00:43:50.000 Basically, but.

00:43:51.000 Isn't there a little slipper in here? 1.00

00:43:53.000 Yeah, so, you know what?

00:43:54.000 Mute it after the last slipper.

00:43:57.000 The last chunk like that?

00:44:00.000 Mute it, yeah, yeah.

00:44:01.000 At some point, she's probably gonna want money. 0.99

00:44:03.000 Notice, right?

00:44:04.000 If he's a billionaire, half of that, she's gonna be set for life.

00:44:06.000 For sure.

00:44:06.000 I don't think there's anything he can do.

00:44:08.000 No, yeah, just a little bit of a damn thing. 0.98

00:44:11.000 Even if you had a prenup, something like that, a judge might still be like, you know what? 0.99

00:44:15.000 Because it's public.

00:44:16.000 What the?

00:44:19.000 Wait, what?

00:44:20.000 What's up?

00:44:21.000 All right, all right, that's true.

00:44:22.000 Yeah, we're not gonna do it.

00:44:27.000 Don't even risk it.

00:44:28.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:44:29.000 Don't even risk it.

00:44:36.000 Okay, so how would somebody react to this?

00:44:40.000 Yeah, I guess what would be a lawful response to this?

00:44:44.000 Would that have been okay?

00:44:45.000 Or how would somebody?

00:44:46.000 So the first thing I'd say is, in my opinion, just from a practical perspective, he did absolutely the perfect thing, right?

00:44:50.000 He didn't engage with her.

00:44:52.000 And the truth is, he's not at threat of death or serious bodily injury, right?

00:44:56.000 She's not pulling out a gun to try to shoot him.

00:44:58.000 She's not coming at him over the table with a knife.

00:45:00.000 If that was happening, it would be a completely different scenario.

00:45:03.000 He's going to get wet.

00:45:05.000 He might get a bruise.

00:45:06.000 Now, the law says you don't have to put up with that.

00:45:09.000 You don't have to put up with a non-deadly force attack.

00:45:11.000 If you're facing a non-deadly force attack, you can use non-deadly force in self-defense.

00:45:16.000 And he could have done that here to prevent her from throwing.

00:45:19.000 Like if she was going to grab another shoe or whatever it was she was throwing, he could have grabbed her arms so she couldn't throw stuff at him or hit stuff or throw drinks at him.

00:45:27.000 The trouble is not the black letter of the law, which is pretty straightforward, What I just described, the trouble is all the context and politics around it because you do have a dude, a big dude, it looked like, and then you have a woman.

00:45:39.000 And every time the cops show up and there's a dude and a woman conflict, they tend to side with the woman and not with the dude.

00:45:46.000 And now you have to explain.

00:45:47.000 Very different than if it was a dude.

00:45:48.000 And he's big too.

00:45:49.000 He's like 6'7.

00:45:50.000 Right.

00:45:50.000 Like they're going to be like, bro, like, 230, 30 a.m.

00:45:53.000 Like, they're going to be like, why'd you, you know?

00:45:55.000 So if I was acting the role of the woman, he just would have punched me in the face.

00:45:59.000 Yeah. 0.78

00:45:59.000 Right. 0.78

00:46:00.000 But when you're dealing with a woman, there's a lot of political risk, not black letter law risk, but political risk that arises because you're dealing with a woman. 0.84

00:46:08.000 And that's why women are more violent, because they know they can get away with it. 1.00

00:46:13.000 They've been saying that forever.

00:46:14.000 I've been saying that forever.

00:46:15.000 They can get away with it.

00:46:16.000 Physically in the moment, because they know you're less likely to respond in a violent way.

00:46:20.000 Most men are less likely to.

00:46:22.000 And they know that should it end up in the legal system, it's you against, it's just like a divorce case.

00:46:28.000 It's you against her and the legal system. 1.00

00:46:31.000 They're on her side.

00:46:33.000 And that's a big force on her side.

00:46:36.000 Speaking of big, though, she's pretty big. 1.00

00:46:39.000 She's pretty. 0.99

00:46:40.000 Yeah, but that's lower body strength, not upper body strength.

00:46:42.000 Now, question.

00:46:43.000 When we say...

00:46:47.000 So when you say that women are more violent, do you mean as in like they just get into more use of force situations? 0.52

00:46:53.000 Are they more likely to punch someone in an altercation?

00:46:57.000 Like when you say that?

00:46:58.000 I think it's a little complicated.

00:47:01.000 They're actually more violent on every level.

00:47:02.000 So women are far more likely to abuse children than men are. 0.99

00:47:05.000 Most people don't know that, but that's statistically true.

00:47:09.000 Well, I don't mean nice as in, like, I mean as in I'm going to use this when I debate women because I debate them all the time and they try to, you know, Pearl, of course. 1.00

00:47:15.000 Pearl talks about this all the time.

00:47:17.000 Most child abuse is actually at the hands of women. 0.99

00:47:19.000 It's not at the hands of men.

00:47:22.000 And of course, women know they can get away with it. 1.00

00:47:25.000 A woman can smack a dude and there's a prospect he won't smack her back. 0.99

00:47:28.000 Two dudes are not going to do that, right?

00:47:30.000 One dude smacks another dude, something's coming back at him.

00:47:33.000 But women know they can get away with it in that kind of tactical, physical context. 1.00

00:47:37.000 And women are kind of agents of chaos anyway. 1.00

00:47:40.000 I mean, all men know, we step into a room with other men, we all know that if we talk enough shit to those other dudes, a fist may come our way, right? 1.00

00:47:48.000 There's physical consequences. 0.99

00:47:50.000 Women are generally free of that. 1.00

00:47:52.000 Like, women don't attack other women with force most of the time. 1.00

00:47:54.000 There are exceptions.

00:47:56.000 They use kind of communal attacks, right?

00:47:58.000 They get all the other girls to hate her to her. 1.00

00:48:01.000 They talk trash about her. 1.00

00:48:02.000 Right. 0.99

00:48:03.000 Exactly right.

00:48:04.000 But when they resort to violence against men, they know they can get away with it, and that's why they do it.

00:48:09.000 I've noticed that, like, because I was talking about this, how in domestic violence situations, people tend to think that men just beat on women.

00:48:16.000 It's actually the other way.

00:48:17.000 When there's one-way violence, it's typically from the female to the guy.

00:48:21.000 Man, I've lived it.

00:48:21.000 I've had it happen to me.

00:48:23.000 People say that I'm lying when I say that.

00:48:24.000 I'm like, no, if there's a domestic violence situation and it's one way, it's almost always the woman beating the man.

00:48:29.000 But most domestic violence is both parties are beating each other.

00:48:31.000 Because those people find each other.

00:48:33.000 Yeah.

00:48:33.000 Because normally, if they're not both like that, the first time it happens, one of them leaves.

00:48:38.000 The non-violent one leaves.

00:48:39.000 So if they stay together, it's generally because they're both violent.

00:48:42.000 Yeah, and they beat each other.

00:48:43.000 So, no, I'm glad, you know, because this is, I'm glad that you're kind of like the bunky myths here because everyone always thinks, oh, well, men are more violent and men are the ones that are beating on women.

00:48:51.000 But in reality.

00:48:52.000 Men are more capable of violence.

00:48:53.000 Yes.

00:48:54.000 But they're not more violent.

00:48:55.000 Yeah.

00:48:55.000 Okay.

00:48:56.000 Nice.

00:48:57.000 Okay.

00:48:58.000 So we have, let's read some chats real quick, and then I got to just connect with Mole real quick.

00:49:05.000 All right.

00:49:05.000 Those are the chats.

00:49:09.000 Yeah, it's crazy, though, because I know a lot of guys are getting abused in their homes.

00:49:13.000 Yeah.

00:49:14.000 And they don't know how to react or how to get out of it, I guess.

00:49:16.000 So they're kind of just taking a beating from their wives or girlfriends.

00:49:19.000 You got to leave.

00:49:20.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:49:21.000 You got to leave.

00:49:21.000 Because, again, you're not with a woman in a relationship.

00:49:24.000 You're with a woman, and on her side is the legal system. 1.00

00:49:28.000 It's just not an evil.

00:49:29.000 It's not an even playing field.

00:49:31.000 It's not.

00:49:33.000 Yeah, because there is a.

00:49:34.000 I mean, I'm sure you guys talk about this in the red pill context all the time.

00:49:37.000 It's like when a man marries a woman, he's not just marrying a woman.

00:49:41.000 He's marrying a woman and the family court system.

00:49:44.000 Yep.

00:49:44.000 And normally guys don't think of this or realize it until the woman files divorce on him.

00:49:49.000 And then suddenly he discovers that he's actually also married to the family court system.

00:49:53.000 Big trouble.

00:49:54.000 An informed man knows that before he gets into the marriage.

00:49:57.000 Now, I say that.

00:49:58.000 I've been married twice.

00:49:59.000 So I'm 50-50 on marriages.

00:50:01.000 I'm very happily married today.

00:50:02.000 But my first marriage was a nightmare. 0.91

00:50:04.000 And when I got married the first time, I was like all these other dopes.

00:50:07.000 I was like, oh, I'm of a certain age.

00:50:08.000 It's time to get married and have kids and have a household.

00:50:12.000 Oh, my God.

00:50:12.000 It was like a manslaughter sentence.

00:50:14.000 Let me tell you.

00:50:14.000 It was unbelievable.

00:50:16.000 And of course, I got divorced then.

00:50:17.000 And then I met the most wonderful woman in the world and I'm happily married now.

00:50:20.000 So I'm 50-50 coin toss. 1.00

00:50:23.000 But I went in like an idiot to the first one. 0.99

00:50:26.000 I just had no idea what I was doing. 0.99

00:50:28.000 I had none of this understanding that is fortunately so much more common today.

00:50:32.000 Thanks to guys like you.

00:50:33.000 Knowledge is power.

00:50:36.000 Any chats, Bulls?

00:50:38.000 TPC Films, shout out to your brother.

00:50:40.000 This might be out of your wheelhouse, but do you know any law firms that help homeowners who've been wrongfully represented by another law firm for insurance claims here in Florida?

00:50:50.000 Let me ask because Google searches can be very misleading, and anyone who goes on FNF are very vetted and trusted.

00:50:56.000 So he wants to know, do you know any law firms that help homeowners who've been wrongfully represented by another law firm for insurance claims?

00:51:02.000 So I've got two answers.

00:51:03.000 The first one, it's not very helpful.

00:51:05.000 I'm afraid it's no, that I don't.

00:51:06.000 My expertise is nothing but self-defense law, nothing to do with insurance law or anything like that.

00:51:12.000 The second part of my answer is this is a real problem.

00:51:15.000 The truth is most individuals are incapable of evaluating lawyers, whether they're good or not.

00:51:20.000 Most lawyers are not very good.

00:51:22.000 Like any profession, lawyers are on a bell curve.

00:51:24.000 So the majority of them are just kind of okay.

00:51:26.000 They're in the middle.

00:51:27.000 They're fine for most things, but not super complicated things. 0.98

00:51:30.000 Then there's a whole bunch of really shitty lawyers out there.

00:51:33.000 And there's maybe 10% at the top where if it were something really important to you, like going to prison for the rest of your life or divorce, you want one of those top 10% guys. 0.84

00:51:44.000 You do not want to sell it.

00:51:44.000 Like Diddy's on the middle team.

00:51:46.000 Yeah.

00:51:46.000 Like the exact team.

00:51:47.000 Wherever we get him off the sex trafficking.

00:51:49.000 Yep.

00:51:50.000 Or Alec Baldwin, when he was facing that manslaughter charge in New Mexico, he definitely should have been convicted on that.

00:51:56.000 But he had a very expensive, very good, very clever legal team that got him off on a technicality.

00:52:02.000 So they did their job.

00:52:04.000 Yeah.

00:52:05.000 What else do we got here?

00:52:08.000 Okay.

00:52:09.000 The punches were uncalled for on all accounts.

00:52:11.000 There was six cops, one suspect.

00:52:12.000 I'm not condoning his actions, but the cops abused their power.

00:52:14.000 I'm not sure how anyone could condone this from the cops' body camera.

00:52:18.000 Two cops struck this dude, then slammed his head into the concrete.

00:52:22.000 Yeah, P8, bro, let me just be honest with you. 1.00

00:52:25.000 You're stupid and you're a bitch. 1.00

00:52:28.000 Bro, like, see, here's the thing. 1.00

00:52:29.000 It's always interesting to me how people that don't work in law enforcement or people that don't deal with these types of rambunctious people try to sit there and Monday morning quarterback.

00:52:39.000 The punch was absolutely necessary because the guy wasn't complying.

00:52:42.000 They need to get him down to the floor.

00:52:44.000 It doesn't matter how many officers are there.

00:52:46.000 They need to get him down as quickly as possible.

00:52:47.000 Because just like Andrew said, the longer the interaction happens, the more dangerous it becomes.

00:52:51.000 It's for his safety to get him under custody quickly.

00:52:53.000 The longer it runs, the tireder people get, the more scared they get, the more they're going to escalate to a higher degree of force.

00:52:59.000 I often, frankly, I think it should be required for men to engage in some kind of combat sport activity, BJJ, boxing, something, where you're forcibly having to resist someone else's efforts to control you or to strike you.

00:53:12.000 And people don't, because if you don't do that, you don't understand, like I saw images of you boxing.

00:53:17.000 You box for three minutes.

00:53:19.000 You're exhausted.

00:53:20.000 You are totally spent.

00:53:22.000 And if this is a fight for your life and that's happening, you know you're getting spent and you know you're running out of energy and you know you're losing your ability to defend yourself.

00:53:30.000 And that's when cops end up going to the gun.

00:53:32.000 So if you can avoid that by getting control in five seconds instead of three minutes, everybody stays safer.

00:53:38.000 Yeah.

00:53:38.000 Interestingly enough, the more cops that show up, the more safe you're actually going to be as a suspect, right?

00:53:43.000 So everyone has body cams.

00:53:45.000 I didn't know that.

00:53:45.000 Yeah, dude.

00:53:46.000 100%.

00:53:46.000 So actually, them coming in droves and numbers saved his life.

00:53:50.000 Because he could have resisted an ending.

00:53:52.000 Well, I'll tell you this.

00:53:53.000 So the way it goes is the less cops there are, the higher they have to escalate their use of force to get him into custody.

00:54:00.000 But if it's three, four of them, they don't have to fuck them up as hard to get them to custody.

00:54:05.000 Overwhelming forces always say. 0.95

00:54:06.000 Like the FBI, for example.

00:54:07.000 When the FBI makes an arrest, they almost never lose an agent.

00:54:10.000 Yeah.

00:54:10.000 Why?

00:54:11.000 Because they go there with a team of people.

00:54:13.000 And we go there.

00:54:14.000 When we used to do our arrest warrants, we're betting him down.

00:54:17.000 We know where he lives.

00:54:18.000 We hit the door at 6 a.m., right?

00:54:20.000 We know exactly where his bedroom is.

00:54:22.000 We're catching him when we have the advantage.

00:54:24.000 And the whole purpose of that is to minimize risk. 0.99

00:54:26.000 As much as people sit there and say, oh, well, the cops just want to fuck people up. 0.98

00:54:29.000 Actually, no. 0.98

00:54:30.000 Actually, no.

00:54:31.000 You want to get them as quickly as possible.

00:54:32.000 You don't want to get in a shooting, bro.

00:54:34.000 It's a nightmare.

00:54:35.000 Internal affairs comes in.

00:54:37.000 The state and local police come in.

00:54:38.000 They're investigating it. 1.00

00:54:39.000 They take your fucking gun from you. 1.00

00:54:40.000 You're on death duty. 1.00

00:54:41.000 No one wants to get in a shooting.

00:54:42.000 And you could go to prison for the rest of your life.

00:54:44.000 You could be the next Derek Chauvin.

00:54:46.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:54:47.000 So cops actually don't want to fucking get in shootings as much people think they do. 0.96

00:54:50.000 It could be a life end, a career ender, right? 0.99

00:54:52.000 And then you're going to have to go ahead and deal with all types of shit. 0.99

00:54:54.000 And then after, let's say you get cleared, you could still get sued by the family after the fact. 0.99

00:54:58.000 So shootings are not worth it whatsoever.

00:54:59.000 Nobody wants to get in it.

00:55:00.000 So when they go ahead and they use this force and take this guy in, it's actually to his benefit. 1.00

00:55:04.000 So like when this guy, and it's always civilians, right, that say some stupid shit like this. 1.00

00:55:07.000 Oh, well, that was overkill. 1.00

00:55:09.000 You didn't need to do that. 1.00

00:55:10.000 Bro, you fucking Monday morning quarterbacks have never been punched in the face. 1.00

00:55:13.000 You've never dealt with a criminal. 1.00

00:55:14.000 You never had to put yourself in a situation where you got to put someone into custody that's resisting against you. 1.00

00:55:18.000 Shut the fuck up, honestly. 0.98

00:55:19.000 And it's being polite about it as Andrew. 1.00

00:55:21.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:55:22.000 A lot of you guys don't know what the fuck you're talking about. 1.00

00:55:24.000 It's very common now when police, when a police officer ends up shooting someone, especially if the person dies, their career is effectively over. 0.99

00:55:30.000 So when I was a young attorney, there were lots of cops out there who'd been in five, six, seven, eight shootings over the course of their career.

00:55:36.000 You don't find those guys anymore because they don't exist in law enforcement.

00:55:39.000 The moment a cop's involved in a fatal shooting, he's sidelined in his career.

00:55:42.000 Absolutely.

00:55:43.000 Because they want to make sure that they're never going to have to defend that guy for having shot the seventh person or the eighth person because it looks bad.

00:55:50.000 So they just don't want him around anymore.

00:55:51.000 And not only that, like, because here's the thing.

00:55:54.000 You're going to get an internal affairs investigation.

00:55:56.000 Then the state police are going to come in and do an investigation.

00:55:58.000 And then on top of that, if it rises to a level maybe where like they say you violated someone's civil liberties, then the FBI might get involved.

00:56:05.000 Exactly right.

00:56:06.000 So you're going to get invested in the gate at like three to four different times. 1.00

00:56:09.000 Nobody wants that shit, bro. 0.99

00:56:11.000 And I know it's so intensive behind the scenes. 1.00

00:56:13.000 It's a career ender a lot of the times if you shoot somebody.

00:56:13.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

00:56:16.000 Like even if you're clean, you're still going to deal with, if it's a clean shoot, you're still going to deal with so much bureaucracy and bullshit that's going to limit your career.

00:56:22.000 Any promotions you have lined up, sidelined immediately.

00:56:27.000 And the cost of these legal defenses is unbelievable.

00:56:29.000 So like if a police officer is charged with a felony, often he loses all support from the department.

00:56:35.000 So he's paying his legal expenses himself.

00:56:37.000 Very common in a felony level case, especially involving deadly force, for many of the cases I work on, hundreds of thousands of dollars are spent on legal expenses before you ever get to trial.

00:56:48.000 Absolutely.

00:56:49.000 Pre-trial.

00:56:50.000 And so say you do that at the state level and you get acquitted.

00:56:54.000 You're still out all that money.

00:56:54.000 You won.

00:56:56.000 You don't get the money back.

00:56:58.000 And then if the feds want to prosecute you too, now it's a second trial and you don't have any money left.

00:57:03.000 I work a lot of cases where a client may be tried to do that.

00:57:06.000 And their threshold is less.

00:57:07.000 A lot of times the FBI is going to come in with like a civil color of rights violation.

00:57:11.000 It's a 1983 case.

00:57:13.000 Yes.

00:57:14.000 That's what they did with Chauvin.

00:57:14.000 Exactly.

00:57:15.000 They got him on that.

00:57:16.000 So when there's two trials, either like you may have a hung jury and they decide to try you again or you have a state trial and then you end up going to federal court.

00:57:23.000 You spend all your money on the first trial to try to avoid going to prison for the rest of your life.

00:57:28.000 And then if they try you again, you don't have any resources left.

00:57:32.000 I see a lot of cases where someone, a defendant, has a very high-paid private lawyer the first time he's tried and the second time it's a public defender because he's completely spent.

00:57:40.000 And the prosecution knows this, by the way.

00:57:42.000 The prosecution knows they can burn through your money.

00:57:45.000 It's like a war, right? 0.67

00:57:46.000 He knows he can kill a lot of your troops in that first trial.

00:57:50.000 The prosecutor has essentially infinite resources.

00:57:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:57:53.000 Damn. 1.00

00:57:53.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:57:55.000 So, you know, this whole like myth that cops want to get into shootings and all that.

00:57:58.000 Trust me, bro.

00:57:59.000 No.

00:58:00.000 They don't.

00:58:00.000 Hell no.

00:58:01.000 And then I would argue even less now because of all the BLM riots and everything else like that. 0.55

00:58:01.000 Hell no. 0.55

00:58:07.000 Who was it that was talking about this?

00:58:08.000 There was a study done where they found that after all the like Ferguson and everything, they call it the Ferguson effect, where since people getting shot, especially black men getting shot is so widely publicized and it leads to so much backlash, they've actually seen crime increase because a lot of law enforcement officers don't want to do proactive policing.

00:58:26.000 Why would you?

00:58:27.000 Why would you incur that risk?

00:58:28.000 Yeah.

00:58:29.000 I mean, it's bad enough if your department's going to back you up, you're actually getting into gunfights with people, right?

00:58:33.000 Which is, that's not a great thing to do.

00:58:36.000 But if you're going to do that and then you're not going to be backed up and you're going to be looking at spending the rest of your life in prison as a cop, why would, and what are they paying you?

00:58:44.000 60 grand a year?

00:58:45.000 I mean, it's insane.

00:58:46.000 I think it was Larry Elder that talked about this, but they literally call it the Ferguson effect, where law enforcement officers stop doing proactive policing.

00:58:54.000 When you stop doing proactive policing, criminals are able to kind of do what they want to do, and you're only responding to 911 calls.

00:58:59.000 If you're only responding to 911 calls, you're reacting, right?

00:59:02.000 And you're responding slow.

00:59:03.000 And you're responding slowly as well.

00:59:05.000 So it actually has the opposite effect when cops are scared to do their job because they're not going to be backed up by their police department.

00:59:10.000 So this is literally what's been going on in America whenever these BLM riots happen. 0.99

00:59:14.000 Like cops are like, you know, fuck that. 0.99

00:59:15.000 I don't want to go to jail. 1.00

00:59:16.000 I just want to collect my paycheck, get a pension, and go home.

00:59:20.000 Well, they go as to replace cops with robots in the near future.

00:59:24.000 Well, we'll see.

00:59:25.000 That'll be tough.

00:59:26.000 That's not going to be a win for the criminals.

00:59:28.000 That's not going to be just like everyone.

00:59:28.000 Yeah.

00:59:30.000 I remember when BLM argued, they were very vigorous.

00:59:34.000 They wanted all these cops have to have body-worn cameras now.

00:59:37.000 Well, that's worked out a lot better for the cops than it has for the criminals.

00:59:41.000 It absolutely has.

00:59:41.000 Yeah.

00:59:43.000 So like that body camera right there, could you imagine all we had was a TikTok clip?

00:59:47.000 It would look awful.

00:59:47.000 Yeah.

00:59:48.000 It would look awful. 1.00

00:59:49.000 But then now that you're looking at it from the other side, bro, that dude deserved that shit. 1.00

00:59:53.000 I don't feel sorry for him whatso fucking ever, man. 1.00

00:59:55.000 He's lucky they just grabbed his ass at him on the floor. 0.99

00:59:57.000 And it's not just one body worn camera because every cop has one. 0.99

01:00:00.000 That's another reason to call more cops.

01:00:02.000 Now you have cameras from multiple angles that are all police officer cameras.

01:00:07.000 Those body cams have exonerated more police officers than hurt.

01:00:07.000 Yep.

01:00:10.000 I'm sure.

01:00:11.000 I'm just glad he didn't die. 1.00

01:00:12.000 He's dumb, but I mean. 1.00

01:00:13.000 Yeah, no, of course, of course. 1.00

01:00:14.000 But he's a fucking dumbass. 1.00

01:00:16.000 If they had seen that knife on the floor of his car before they had him cuffed up, he would have been in gunpoint at least. 1.00

01:00:22.000 We would have been absolutely cold.

01:00:24.000 So yeah, anyway, we could go.

01:00:25.000 We keep going.

01:00:26.000 But yeah, bro, whoever said that, Super Chattan, bro, I'll be honest with you, bro. 0.85

01:00:28.000 You're speaking from a position of privilege and you don't understand what it's like to be a law enforcement officer in America where you're under constant bullshit from criminals and you don't know these individuals and you're going in like cold. 1.00

01:00:40.000 So I hate Monday morning quarterbacks when people say that shit. 0.99

01:00:44.000 Also, also, if robots do come into play and they find you in the streets, they have no emotions. 1.00

01:00:50.000 So you're cooked either way.

01:00:51.000 We've all seen Robocop the movie.

01:00:52.000 Yeah.

01:00:53.000 That's what it's going to be like.

01:00:54.000 Yeah, 100%, bro.

01:00:55.000 All right.

01:00:55.000 What's the next one?

01:00:56.000 All right, what else have we got here?

01:00:59.000 Oh, here we go.

01:01:01.000 Response.

01:01:02.000 The simple fact of the cop is the cop allowed the situation to get out of his control and they overcorrected when backup arrived.

01:01:09.000 If the, I think he meant to say cop was afraid for his life when the door shut.

01:01:12.000 The cop would have immediately knocked out window and removed assailant. 0.98

01:01:15.000 These cops are incompetent and put their life in danger, but not control.

01:01:18.000 This dude could have driven off if he wants to. 0.83

01:01:18.000 Pull over. 0.83

01:01:21.000 All this said, it does not allow them to assault this individual the way they did.

01:01:24.000 Bro, why don't you be a cop then?

01:01:26.000 How about you?

01:01:26.000 What's your response to that?

01:01:27.000 Figure it out, bro. 1.00

01:01:28.000 Every line of this is bullshit. 1.00

01:01:30.000 It's like from my cousin Vinny. 1.00

01:01:32.000 Everything that guy just said is bullshit. 1.00

01:01:34.000 All of it. 0.99

01:01:35.000 So if the cop had broken the window before backup came up, would that have been safer for everybody or riskier?

01:01:40.000 Now he's one-on-one with the suspect.

01:01:42.000 Maybe he sees the knife in the car and now he has to shoot that guy because he can't risk that the guy is going to reach down for the knife on the floorboard. 1.00

01:01:50.000 Everything about that is bullshit. 1.00

01:01:52.000 There you go. 1.00

01:01:52.000 You got a former agent. 1.00

01:01:53.000 That's what I would expect from a $1 super chatter.

01:01:56.000 You know what's funny to me? 1.00

01:01:57.000 It's like you got a lawyer here and you got a former agent telling you that the cops acted fine and you're an idiot and you're still trying to argue. 1.00

01:02:04.000 Shut the fuck up, bro. 1.00

01:02:05.000 Who are you? 1.00

01:02:06.000 God damn. 1.00

01:02:07.000 Like, incredible. 1.00

01:02:08.000 Well, let's keep going. 1.00

01:02:10.000 Some of you guys are fucking stupid and you guys think you're smart and you're really not. 1.00

01:02:10.000 It's the problem. 1.00

01:02:14.000 What else we got?

01:02:15.000 Like, you guys already know. 0.99

01:02:17.000 If you say some dumb shit on here, this ain't like the feel-good podcast. 1.00

01:02:20.000 We're going to tell you you're a fucking retard. 1.00

01:02:22.000 So glad to see Andrew on here. 1.00

01:02:23.000 Everyone will benefit from getting this book and watching his YouTube channel.

01:02:26.000 Love the content.

01:02:26.000 FNF Gang, Greg.

01:02:27.000 That's my buddy, Greg Moore Mars.

01:02:29.000 Shout out to you, bro.

01:02:30.000 I love bikes, man. 1.00

01:02:31.000 But I'm over that shit, bro. 1.00

01:02:33.000 Got to survive. 1.00

01:02:37.000 I'm finished, dog.

01:02:38.000 All right, what else do we got?

01:02:39.000 Two more? 0.74

01:02:40.000 All right.

01:02:40.000 Fresh, can you read these?

01:02:42.000 Colonels, hey, Andrew, should all men start wearing body cams daily? 0.99

01:02:47.000 It's very unwieldy to do that.

01:02:49.000 People ask me about that all the time.

01:02:50.000 Like, should I have a dash cam in my car?

01:02:52.000 Should I have cameras in my house?

01:02:53.000 And what I always have to tell people is on your person would be very inconvenient.

01:02:57.000 In your car, at your home, it's probably a good idea.

01:03:01.000 But the real answer is, well, it depends on what's recorded.

01:03:06.000 If it records you doing things right, that's great.

01:03:09.000 And then you have evidence favorable to you.

01:03:10.000 But if you set up cameras and then you do things wrong, that's bad evidence for you.

01:03:16.000 So whether or not you should have cameras is really a function of, do you know what your legal rights are, what your privilege to use force is?

01:03:23.000 If you're using force within the legal boundaries, you want every camera in the world to record that.

01:03:28.000 But if you don't know what the legal rules are for use of force, you don't know if you're acting lawfully or not.

01:03:33.000 And then for all you know, all your cameras are recording you committing a crime.

01:03:36.000 That's scary, man.

01:03:37.000 I didn't read this book, bro.

01:03:38.000 Holy.

01:03:39.000 I don't know what I'm doing.

01:03:40.000 By the way, can I mention people can get the book for free?

01:03:42.000 We give this book away for free at lawselfdefense.com slash fresh.

01:03:47.000 Link down below, guys.

01:03:48.000 Free book.

01:03:49.000 Guys, he's right, though.

01:03:50.000 If you're in a situation where you don't know what to do and you do the wrong things on camera, you're cooked.

01:03:55.000 Most of what people think they're allowed to do in self-defense and use of force is wrong.

01:04:00.000 Most people have been miseducated.

01:04:01.000 They don't know what the legal boundaries are.

01:04:03.000 They're acting in good faith.

01:04:04.000 They're not acting out of malice, but they think they're allowed to go to the gun.

01:04:07.000 They think they're allowed to use their hands.

01:04:09.000 They think they're allowed to do things and they believe it, but it's not true.

01:04:13.000 And then when it gets exposed, they end up going to prison.

01:04:16.000 And that doesn't have to happen.

01:04:17.000 The rules are not complicated.

01:04:18.000 The rules are pretty straightforward.

01:04:20.000 But if you don't know what they are, you never know if you're acting lawfully.

01:04:23.000 All right.

01:04:25.000 What else have we got?

01:04:26.000 Any other chats, sir?

01:04:26.000 CBC Films asked about George Floyd.

01:04:30.000 What are your thoughts on the George Floyd fentanyl situation?

01:04:34.000 Fentanyl?

01:04:35.000 I think George Floyd died of a drug overdose and a very compromised physiology.

01:04:39.000 He was a very sick person.

01:04:40.000 He had respiratory disease.

01:04:42.000 He had very serious heart disease. 0.66

01:04:43.000 Criminal.

01:04:44.000 He had just chewed a whole bunch of tablets when the cops approached because he didn't want to be caught with the drugs.

01:04:49.000 He had very high levels of fentanyl in his blood system, and he made the poor decision to physically fight four cops for about 10 minutes before they got him on the ground.

01:04:59.000 I think his physiology And his drug overdose killed him.

01:05:02.000 I don't think, just look at that video.

01:05:03.000 When you see Derek Chauvin there, does he look like he's someone committing murder on camera?

01:05:08.000 No, man.

01:05:09.000 And the way he had his knee, it didn't cut off his ability to breathe because he's clearly screaming, saying, Mama.

01:05:13.000 And he was trained in that technique in the account.

01:05:16.000 And he's got a lot of money.

01:05:18.000 And I'm sure Derek Chauvin had used that exact technique.

01:05:21.000 He was a cop for 20 years.

01:05:23.000 He'd probably used it thousands of times and no one ever died.

01:05:26.000 He thought he was doing the most normal, typical thing in the world.

01:05:30.000 I am utterly convinced that no one was more surprised when George Floyd died than Derek Chauvin.

01:05:35.000 Yeah, I think he needs a pardon as well.

01:05:38.000 I don't think.

01:05:39.000 It never happened.

01:05:40.000 I mean, Trump can't pardon him for a state offense.

01:05:43.000 And that governor's.

01:05:45.000 He's in federal prison right now, though, right?

01:05:46.000 He is because, I mean, frankly, he's- If we were to get pardoned, yeah. 0.99

01:05:52.000 Trump could pardon him, but it would need to be Waltz, which we know Waltz is a bitch. 0.99

01:05:55.000 He ain't going to pardon him. 0.99

01:05:56.000 We need to pardon Tori Leans, bro. 0.99

01:05:58.000 Get a nigga out of there. 1.00

01:05:59.000 Torrey Leans. 1.00

01:05:59.000 He's innocent. 1.00

01:06:00.000 Torre Leans.

01:06:00.000 That's Newsome.

01:06:01.000 That's Newsome Gavin Newsome would have to do.

01:06:03.000 Torrelans, you know the case?

01:06:04.000 I don't think so.

01:06:05.000 Who was the one that allegedly shot Meg thee Stallion in the foot? 0.95

01:06:05.000 Meg the Stallion. 0.95

01:06:09.000 Oh, okay.

01:06:10.000 I don't know the story. 1.00

01:06:11.000 He said, dance, bitch, and he shot at her feet. 1.00

01:06:13.000 Allegedly, but we know he didn't shoot her. 1.00

01:06:16.000 Yeah, it wouldn't be cool to shoot someone in the foot for not dancing.

01:06:21.000 Alright, so I have something here interesting for you guys.

01:06:24.000 I think this is, so Some weirdo followed me back to where I was going after I did a podcast.

01:06:33.000 So I'll give you kind of the pattern of facts here.

01:06:35.000 Okay. 0.98

01:06:35.000 So this individual had been like harassing me for a couple weeks now, talking shit, whatever, trying to antagonize a fight. 0.98

01:06:42.000 So I had just wrapped up doing a street debate and I was walking back towards my spot. 0.86

01:06:48.000 And this guy comes up to me and starts problems.

01:06:50.000 Now, before we play this footage, I'll tell you guys right now, I should have just ignored this.

01:06:54.000 I'll take accountability.

01:06:55.000 I should have just ignored him and just walked away. 1.00

01:06:56.000 But obviously, I was very annoyed because it's been like the second or third time now that this fucking guy's been following me around talking shit. 0.99

01:07:02.000 So, but I do think you guys can learn from my mistake. 0.99

01:07:05.000 And we could kind of analyze it here with a self-defense lawyer.

01:07:08.000 Because a lot of you guys will find yourselves in a situation like this where you might be in a physical confrontation.

01:07:14.000 Again, didn't tell you guys.

01:07:15.000 I should have just walked away and ignored it.

01:07:17.000 But the fact that I didn't ignore it, we might be able to learn something here for your guys' benefit.

01:07:21.000 So I guess let's roll the clip and then, Andrew, anytime you want them to pause or whatever, go and give commentary.

01:07:26.000 Go ahead.

01:07:26.000 I'll let you take it.

01:07:28.000 We got blips in here.

01:07:30.000 Yeah, yeah, they know the timestamps of what?

01:07:32.000 Yeah, I swore a lot of this one.

01:07:33.000 I ain't gonna lie.

01:07:34.000 I swore a lot of this one.

01:07:36.000 So I'm walking my dog with my video guy.

01:07:42.000 What's good?

01:07:43.000 Shadow, push one of you.

01:07:45.000 Alright, you got your camera on, right?

01:07:46.000 Now I do.

01:07:48.000 You have something to say?

01:07:49.000 No.

01:07:50.000 Alright.

01:07:51.000 I have nothing to say to you, man.

01:07:52.000 You're trying to antagonize a fight. 1.00

01:07:54.000 You're a fucking fuck. 1.00

01:07:55.000 Hold on, how about this? 1.00

01:07:56.000 Turn your camera back on and say that again.

01:07:58.000 Yeah, yeah, do it on camera.

01:08:03.000 Okay, so that was actually a problem.

01:08:05.000 You definitely should not do that.

01:08:06.000 That can get you in trouble.

01:08:07.000 Do it.

01:08:08.000 So, just as a basic principle, if you cannot get in a fight with someone consistent with your own safety and the safety of people you have a duty to protect, if you can safely withdraw, you should always do that.

01:08:21.000 Because the moment you're hands-on in a fight, you just incurred two risks you were not incurring a moment before.

01:08:26.000 A risk of dying in the fight.

01:08:27.000 You don't know that guy's got a knife or got a gun or how crazy he is. 0.87

01:08:31.000 You could die right there.

01:08:32.000 And a risk of going to prison for the rest of your life. 0.97

01:08:34.000 You might end up killing that guy and someone decides that wasn't lawful self-defense.

01:08:38.000 You go to prison forever. 0.96

01:08:39.000 Absolutely.

01:08:39.000 If you're not in the fight, you don't run those risks.

01:08:41.000 But the moment you're hands-on, those are risks you are now incurring.

01:08:46.000 Okay.

01:08:46.000 Now, one of the issues here is there's a concept.

01:08:50.000 Obviously, if you're the initial aggressor, if you were to run up to that guy with your fist up, you would be the initial aggressor in the fight.

01:08:55.000 You're not doing that.

01:08:57.000 If you're the initial aggressor, you lose innocence.

01:08:59.000 You lose self-defense as a legal justice. 0.97

01:09:01.000 Whoever closes the gap fucks up. 0.75

01:09:03.000 But there's another way to lose innocence, and that is to be what's called a provoker with intent. 0.97

01:09:07.000 Provoker with intent is not the initial aggressor.

01:09:10.000 He's not the guy who throws the first punch, but he's the guy who provokes the other person to throw the first punch, so he'll have an excuse to use force against him.

01:09:19.000 Wow.

01:09:19.000 Gotcha.

01:09:19.000 Right.

01:09:20.000 So that's the, go ahead, throw the first punch. 1.00

01:09:22.000 Go ahead, hit me, hit me, I dare you. 0.98

01:09:23.000 No one's saying that because they want to get punched in the face, right? 0.98

01:09:26.000 They're saying that because they want the other guy to take a swing so they'll have an excuse to use force against him.

01:09:32.000 The courts hate that.

01:09:33.000 The law hates that.

01:09:34.000 That's another way you, if you do that, you lose self-defense. 1.00

01:09:37.000 Damn. 0.99

01:09:37.000 So when you're talking to this guy and you're saying, go ahead, say that again, put your camera on, say that again. 0.99

01:09:42.000 A prosecutor would try to characterize that as provocation with intent.

01:09:46.000 You're trying to provoke that guy into an angry state so you'll have an excuse to use force against him.

01:09:51.000 And if you do that, you don't have a legal justification of self-defense.

01:09:54.000 All right.

01:09:55.000 This is good information, guys.

01:09:56.000 Learn from my mistake, chat.

01:09:58.000 Learn from my mistake. 1.00

01:09:59.000 Don't do that shit. 1.00

01:10:01.000 So, and then he walked up to me starting saying, you know, what's good, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

01:10:04.000 This other shit. 1.00

01:10:05.000 I walked away. 1.00

01:10:05.000 I should have kept walking away. 1.00

01:10:07.000 But it's fine.

01:10:08.000 Like I said before, my L can be your guys' lesson.

01:10:10.000 So let's keep going here.

01:10:12.000 Let's keep playing the clip because I do think a lot of guys find themselves in this situation.

01:10:17.000 You got it?

01:10:17.000 Okay.

01:10:18.000 So it's recording.

01:10:19.000 So, so let me get this. 1.00

01:10:21.000 Let me came up to me to start shit. 0.99

01:10:24.000 Did you just put swords on everybody? 1.00

01:10:27.000 I forgot to mention that.

01:10:28.000 So he got on an altercation with one of my security guards.

01:10:32.000 My security guard pushed him off.

01:10:34.000 And then two weeks later, he came and tried to get the police to arrest my security guard.

01:10:38.000 And then that's why he came.

01:10:39.000 I'm trying to, yeah.

01:10:40.000 So that's why I said, why are you provoking a fight right now? 0.98

01:10:42.000 Did you just try to get my security guy fucking there? 0.98

01:10:45.000 So let's keep going. 0.99

01:10:46.000 Let's keep playing the clip.

01:10:47.000 That's what I'm referring to. 1.00

01:10:53.000 You're literally a bitch. 1.00

01:10:54.000 I want to come up to you. 1.00

01:10:55.000 I'm one of your property.

01:10:58.000 Bad words.

01:10:59.000 Yeah, bad words.

01:10:59.000 We're on YouTube, so I got to do it.

01:11:01.000 This is your problem.

01:11:05.000 Do something.

01:11:06.000 Come, do something.

01:11:06.000 You want to fight?

01:11:07.000 Come over here. 1.00

01:11:08.000 If you come over here, I'm going to fuck you up. 1.00

01:11:10.000 Yeah, see, that's the provocation. 1.00

01:11:12.000 Come over here. 1.00

01:11:13.000 I called you fuck mine. 1.00

01:11:14.000 You came in. 1.00

01:11:15.000 You said I had with you.

01:11:16.000 You came in. 0.99

01:11:18.000 This is honestly, because, guys, how many times do we get pissed off and we say shit like this? 0.99

01:11:23.000 Yeah, your pride gets engaged. 0.99

01:11:24.000 Yeah, your pride gets engaged.

01:11:25.000 Yeah, you come up to me.

01:11:26.000 Yeah.

01:11:26.000 I just did it.

01:11:27.000 Come right now.

01:11:28.000 I just did it.

01:11:29.000 Come right.

01:11:29.000 Come right now.

01:11:30.000 Hit me, hit me. 1.00

01:11:31.000 Hit me, hit me, hit me. 1.00

01:11:33.000 Hit me, hit me. 1.00

01:11:34.000 Hit me. 1.00

01:11:36.000 Hands up, right?

01:11:37.000 What are you going to do?

01:11:38.000 See yourself in trouble. 1.00

01:11:38.000 You're a fucking bitch. 1.00

01:11:43.000 Thank you. 1.00

01:11:45.000 And we're basically talking. 0.99

01:11:46.000 You guys are probably wondering we're just talking shits with each other. 1.00

01:11:48.000 Dude coming up to your fucking palace. 1.00

01:11:50.000 I'm on the side of the wall. 1.00

01:11:51.000 I'm on the side of the wall.

01:11:52.000 You want to fight me?

01:11:55.000 I'm scared to come up to you.

01:11:56.000 I don't want to fight.

01:11:56.000 You said it.

01:11:57.000 It's on video.

01:11:58.000 You said something.

01:11:59.000 Do something.

01:12:00.000 You want to fight me? 0.90

01:12:01.000 Fight me. 1.00

01:12:01.000 Hit me. 1.00

01:12:02.000 Let me show you guys after you guys.

01:12:04.000 This guy's like maybe 5'6, 5'7, like 160.

01:12:04.000 Real quick.

01:12:09.000 I don't know, 170. 0.99

01:12:11.000 Beer gut and shit. 0.99

01:12:13.000 I'm 6'3, like 200 pounds. 0.99

01:12:15.000 So, you know, but a lot of those guys will have weapons because they know they can fight.

01:12:20.000 Yeah, of course, of course.

01:12:21.000 Well, and the other risk here is even if it's not provocation with intent, it begins to look like mutual combat.

01:12:28.000 So mutual combat is when two guys just decide to settle their differences with their fists.

01:12:32.000 Just have a traditional fist fight.

01:12:33.000 Let's go outside and settle this as men. 0.95

01:12:35.000 Well, the way the law looks at that, you're both aggressors.

01:12:38.000 You're both unlawful aggressors in the fight, and neither one of you can justify your use of force as self-defense.

01:12:43.000 So at this point right now, just for the mutual combat to me.

01:12:47.000 So at this point, it's going to be mutual combat if we're to fight.

01:12:49.000 Okay.

01:12:49.000 All right, fair.

01:12:50.000 So no one has a fight.

01:12:50.000 So the truth is, if it ends up just being a fist fight, normally if the cops show up, they just send everybody home.

01:12:55.000 It's not a big deal.

01:12:56.000 But if it, you never know if it's going to escalate. 0.99

01:12:58.000 You don't know if that guy's going to pull a weapon out, and now you have to kill him.

01:13:01.000 And then it looks like deadly force mutual combat, which is dueling.

01:13:05.000 And dueling is not allowed.

01:13:06.000 Is dueling, isn't that legal in Texas?

01:13:09.000 No?

01:13:09.000 No.

01:13:09.000 Dueling?

01:13:10.000 Okay.

01:13:11.000 There are two states, Washington and Texas who do allow for mutual combat.

01:13:16.000 They take a different approach.

01:13:18.000 So in most states, if you engage in mutual combat, you both lose self-defense.

01:13:21.000 In those two states, if you engage in mutual combat, what the law says is, well, you're both consenting to each other's punches.

01:13:28.000 Okay.

01:13:29.000 You're agreeing to get into...

01:13:32.000 What you can't do, though, is you can't escalate it to deadly force.

01:13:34.000 Gotcha.

01:13:35.000 Because that would be an unlawful thing.

01:13:36.000 So there's mutual combat laws or dueling in Texas and Washington State.

01:13:41.000 Well, it's not dueling.

01:13:42.000 Dueling is deadly force.

01:13:43.000 But they just let you have a fist fight, and they don't call it a crime.

01:13:43.000 Okay.

01:13:46.000 Okay.

01:13:46.000 Like hockey.

01:13:48.000 Okay.

01:13:48.000 Florida doesn't have that.

01:13:48.000 Damn.

01:13:49.000 Let's keep going. 1.00

01:13:49.000 All right. 1.00

01:13:50.000 Because this is obviously in Miami.

01:13:52.000 So at this point, guys, it looks like, okay, so this would be considered just the term again for it?

01:13:57.000 Mutual combat?

01:13:58.000 Mutual combat.

01:13:58.000 Okay.

01:13:59.000 Let's keep going.

01:14:04.000 Yeah.

01:14:04.000 Let's call it out.

01:14:05.000 Because I'm the end of the day.

01:14:08.000 You said I won't girl. 0.96

01:14:08.000 You're out. 0.96

01:14:09.000 I'm fucking on you up to your face. 1.00

01:14:10.000 Fine. 1.00

01:14:11.000 You said I won't come up to you.

01:14:12.000 I came up to you four times.

01:14:17.000 So he admits that he's bothered me on four different occasions coming up to me, and I ignore him.

01:14:21.000 That's kind of why I responded in such an angry fashion.

01:14:23.000 Now, granted, I should have controlled myself better.

01:14:25.000 I'm not going to lie.

01:14:27.000 Because I have more to lose.

01:14:29.000 Which you guys are going to see here. 0.98

01:14:30.000 I do end up walking away and getting the better of, you know, understanding that I got to fucking exercise restraint.

01:14:35.000 But yeah, he approached me now four times. 0.99

01:14:37.000 Now, would you say that plays into it at all, Andrew, as far as like, I guess, in the totality of the circumstances where he's been approaching me multiple times now, and then I'm like, what the fuck? 0.94

01:14:46.000 I'm tired of this guy following me. 0.55

01:14:48.000 Well, you can't use force against someone just because they're annoying.

01:14:51.000 But you can use force against someone if they're trespassing.

01:14:55.000 If they're threatening you with non-deadly force, you can use non-deadly force in self-defense.

01:14:59.000 Like in the case we were talking about with Nick Fuentes, where he pepper sprays on the woman on the next porch.

01:15:04.000 She trespassed on his property.

01:15:06.000 She wasn't just an innocent visitor delivering.

01:15:08.000 She wasn't an Amazon driver delivering a package. 0.64

01:15:10.000 She was there to harass them. 1.00

01:15:12.000 She was there without privilege, without permission.

01:15:14.000 That's trespass.

01:15:15.000 You're allowed to use non-deadly force to stop a trespass.

01:15:18.000 You can't shoot someone for a trespass, but you can use pepper spray to stop a trespass, which is what he did, which is why I think his conduct is defensible.

01:15:26.000 But by the way, this kind of stuff is very important.

01:15:27.000 So a large part of what I do is cover these kinds of use of force events on video because we don't want people to learn this stuff from their own fights.

01:15:35.000 Yes.

01:15:36.000 We want people, like pilots, we don't want pilots learning about plane crashes from their own plane crashes.

01:15:41.000 Pilots learn about plane crashes from studying other pilots' plane crashes.

01:15:46.000 A lot of what I do at lawselfdefense.com is go through these videos, break them down so all of us can learn from other people's experiences.

01:15:53.000 Now, your whole audience is learning from this, right?

01:15:55.000 And guys, I bet you would do things differently.

01:15:58.000 Yeah, I am.

01:15:58.000 You're learning from this.

01:15:59.000 I'm learning.

01:15:59.000 Yep.

01:16:00.000 And then also, I know this is a very common occurrence where this happens all the time with fist fights.

01:16:05.000 So I'm like, you know what? 1.00

01:16:06.000 Though it's a bit embarrassing for me being an idiot doing this shit, I'm like, you know what? 1.00

01:16:09.000 You guys can learn from my list. 1.00

01:16:10.000 I could put my ego aside, get a professional to give criticism, and then who knows? 1.00

01:16:15.000 We might save someone's life because now they know, oh, well, I can't do this shit. 0.99

01:16:19.000 This is going to be mutual comment. 0.99

01:16:20.000 I'm not going to get self-defense.

01:16:21.000 I'm just going to walk away.

01:16:22.000 The smart play is to always be making egoless, emotionless decisions in self-defense.

01:16:28.000 Now, I'm a guy who carries a gun for personal protection.

01:16:30.000 I have every day my entire adult life.

01:16:32.000 I've never come close to needing it because I'm very good at not getting my ego engaged and extracting myself from these kinds of confrontations.

01:16:40.000 You know, I'm on YouTube too.

01:16:41.000 I have lunatics who are interested in me too.

01:16:44.000 But you have to make emotionless decisions.

01:16:47.000 The moment you feel your ego getting engaged, you're not making better decisions with your ego engaged than when it's not.

01:16:53.000 It's just not happening.

01:16:54.000 Absolutely right.

01:16:55.000 We'll keep playing it here.

01:16:58.000 And then Andrew will give his professional opinion on what if violence did occur, what would happen?

01:17:04.000 We got the clip?

01:17:05.000 Okay. 1.00

01:17:07.000 You're a cloud chasing fucking bitch. 1.00

01:17:08.000 Cloud chasing yes. 1.00

01:17:10.000 What am I cloud chasing?

01:17:11.000 You're pretty protecting.

01:17:12.000 You protect it.

01:17:12.000 You're protecting.

01:17:13.000 You're following.

01:17:14.000 I follow you, I won't call you a murder. 0.99

01:17:20.000 You're a f You. 1.00

01:17:21.000 Go inside. 1.00

01:17:22.000 You fucking bitch. 1.00

01:17:22.000 Go inside. 1.00

01:17:23.000 Go inside.

01:17:24.000 Go inside.

01:17:24.000 You follow me.

01:17:25.000 Go inside.

01:17:26.000 You start it.

01:17:27.000 Go inside.

01:17:27.000 You start it.

01:17:28.000 It's all on camera. 1.00

01:17:29.000 Make your fucking fake video. 1.00

01:17:30.000 Go back. 1.00

01:17:33.000 Yeah.

01:17:33.000 You got to press the security guy.

01:17:39.000 I'm here now.

01:17:40.000 When you want to fight me, I'm here now.

01:17:42.000 You want to fight me? 1.00

01:17:43.000 You fucking me, bro. 1.00

01:17:44.000 Hit me. 1.00

01:17:45.000 I'm the intranet, but in real life, you don't want to.

01:17:48.000 Oh, my God.

01:17:49.000 You guys might have not saw it.

01:17:50.000 He, like, said, hit me a couple times and put his face there.

01:17:52.000 Now he's provoking with intent.

01:17:54.000 Now, if I socked them right then and there, what would have happened?

01:17:55.000 Well, the question would be...

01:17:59.000 I ain't gonna lie.

01:18:00.000 I had my left hand ready. 0.99

01:18:01.000 I was like, I could fucking knock this guy out right now. 0.97

01:18:04.000 Why should you do it? 0.99

01:18:05.000 You can't punch him because he's taunting you.

01:18:07.000 You could only use non-deadly force. 1.00

01:18:08.000 I want to punch him. 0.99

01:18:10.000 Well, of course, we all do.

01:18:12.000 But what the law would say is, unless you had a, unless other people, a jury, believed you had a reasonable perception of a threat of harm from him, you can't use force in self-defense.

01:18:21.000 Gotcha.

01:18:22.000 All right.

01:18:22.000 Yeah.

01:18:23.000 As much as I wanted to do it, I didn't do it.

01:18:26.000 And by the way, he might deserve it.

01:18:27.000 I mean, we can imagine living in a world where it would be permissible to punch someone for taunting you, right?

01:18:33.000 That might not be a bad world to live in.

01:18:35.000 That might be a much more polite world than what we have today.

01:18:38.000 So I'm not making moral judgments about this.

01:18:40.000 You're going to think this is what the law is.

01:18:42.000 No, no, no.

01:18:42.000 Yeah.

01:18:43.000 And this is important.

01:18:44.000 This is very important.

01:18:46.000 Let's keep playing it and then we'll close it out.

01:18:47.000 And then we'll have Andrew give a... 1.00

01:18:52.000 You fucking dumbass. 1.00

01:18:54.000 You're a drunken, fucking dumbass. 1.00

01:18:56.000 That fuck J Saints. 1.00

01:18:57.000 You're a dumb second. 1.00

01:18:59.000 Fuck God, you. 1.00

01:19:00.000 You're not fuck you. 1.00

01:19:01.000 You don't do shit. 1.00

01:19:02.000 You're not fucking like, man, dumb. 1.00

01:19:05.000 Now, I should have just walked away, given myself some criticism here. 1.00

01:19:08.000 I was just so fucking pissed off because it's like the third or fourth time this guy's like followed me and harassed me. 0.85

01:19:13.000 And he's also like taking video of me while I'm walking Frank and I don't see him. 0.97

01:19:17.000 And people have like sent it to me.

01:19:18.000 So like he'll be like, I'll be walking around Brickle with Frank and he's behind me like three blocks away recording saying like, oh, look at this weirdo.

01:19:25.000 And he puts it on the internet.

01:19:26.000 It's weird. 0.99

01:19:27.000 So to me, I was like, what the fuck, man? 0.99

01:19:29.000 And he's, and people have sent me these clips like, yo, look, this guy's like stalking you or recording you as you're walking with your dog. 0.99

01:19:34.000 Now, I would document all that.

01:19:36.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:19:36.000 So I would save all that, just put it in a file on your computer.

01:19:39.000 So if the lunatic ever shows up with a gun or a knife and you have to, really have to defend yourself, you have all that documentation, all that context.

01:19:46.000 Otherwise, it's just your word.

01:19:48.000 Yeah.

01:19:48.000 And no one has to believe you.

01:19:49.000 Yeah, of course.

01:19:51.000 So yeah, I guess I walked away from it.

01:19:53.000 I think I should have walked away from it sooner, but I do think that this is a good learning lesson here.

01:19:58.000 I mean, if you walk away, you go back to your great life. 0.98

01:20:00.000 That guy's still a loser. 0.99

01:20:01.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.86

01:20:03.000 So if we did, so hypothetically speaking, if we did get into a fight, probably both of us would have got arrested, right?

01:20:08.000 No self-defense for either party?

01:20:10.000 Well, you're at risk.

01:20:11.000 So there wouldn't be a legal justification.

01:20:12.000 The cops generally, if no one's seriously hurt, they don't want to make an arrest.

01:20:16.000 If they can send everybody home, it's easier for them.

01:20:18.000 They don't have to do a report, all that kind of stuff.

01:20:20.000 The trouble is you don't know how the fight's going to go.

01:20:22.000 That's not within your control.

01:20:24.000 That other guy gets a vote. 0.99

01:20:25.000 Or if I fuck him up, I'm definitely going to go to jail. 1.00

01:20:27.000 We're all a 50-cent box cutter swipe across the neck from sitting on the curb with all the blood running out of our fingers. 0.99

01:20:33.000 You don't know the guy's got a box cutter in his pocket.

01:20:35.000 You never know.

01:20:35.000 Yeah.

01:20:36.000 All right.

01:20:37.000 Fair enough.

01:20:37.000 I mean, when in doubt, guys, just walk away.

01:20:41.000 Learn from my mistake.

01:20:42.000 If you can safely.

01:20:43.000 Well, yeah, if you can safely.

01:20:44.000 Of course.

01:20:44.000 Which I could have.

01:20:46.000 Which is why I wanted you guys to see it, man, because this happens every fucking day. 0.98

01:20:49.000 Every single one of you guys in this chat has probably been in a situation like that with someone harassing you and you fucking get back and you engage because you want to beat them up and you're pissed off. 0.95

01:20:57.000 That guy is very, very weird, though. 0.86

01:20:59.000 He is definitely weird.

01:21:01.000 Sun's all right, man.

01:21:02.000 Yeah, son's off.

01:21:02.000 Yeah.

01:21:03.000 And then I could go to jail for beating up a retard. 1.00

01:21:04.000 That'd be bad. 0.99

01:21:05.000 Hate to, you know, be like, what the hell?

01:21:08.000 Or maybe, maybe get sued.

01:21:09.000 Yeah, I get sued.

01:21:10.000 Yeah.

01:21:11.000 What do we got next?

01:21:11.000 Any other chats?

01:21:13.000 Okay, Myron, I'm by no means against the police, but I've seen an officer reach in and smack a civilian while and before ordering them to get out.

01:21:21.000 I've never seen.

01:21:22.000 Never seen a cop reach in and smack someone.

01:21:24.000 Well, he was ordered to get out seven times.

01:21:26.000 So they knew he was forcibly non-compliant.

01:21:30.000 All right, who's up next?

01:21:32.000 That's it.

01:21:32.000 Okay, did you want to react to, is there another use of force one you want to react to?

01:21:36.000 Let's go.

01:21:38.000 You want to do the Nick one?

01:21:40.000 Nick Fuentes?

01:21:41.000 Up to guys.

01:21:42.000 We could if you want.

01:21:43.000 I think the chat would like to see it.

01:21:44.000 Is Chris here with the girls or no?

01:21:48.000 10-11.

01:21:50.000 Are the girls here or no?

01:21:53.000 10-11.

01:21:55.000 Okay.

01:21:58.000 You want to give him closing words?

01:21:59.000 Yeah.

01:22:00.000 Is Chris here not coming to the game?

01:22:02.000 He's sick?

01:22:04.000 Yeah.

01:22:04.000 Okay.

01:22:05.000 All that honey.

01:22:07.000 Something got here.

01:22:08.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:22:08.000 All that honey got him fucked up. 0.99

01:22:10.000 All right. 0.99

01:22:10.000 Well, yeah, Andrew, I guess I'll give you the last word then. 0.99

01:22:13.000 You know, where can people find you?

01:22:14.000 What projects you got going on?

01:22:16.000 Awesome.

01:22:16.000 First of all, thanks for having me on.

01:22:18.000 I'm a big fan of your show, so I really appreciate it.

01:22:20.000 I'm a fan of yours.

01:22:20.000 This is a bucket list experience for me.

01:22:22.000 So I really appreciate it.

01:22:24.000 Again, I do two things.

01:22:25.000 I do this law of self-defense stuff.

01:22:27.000 I help defend people in cases, and I teach people how to be hard to convict if they're ever compelled to defend themselves.

01:22:34.000 We give this book away for free, folks.

01:22:36.000 That's how important we think it is for you to have this information.

01:22:38.000 You can get it at lawofselfdefense.com slash fresh.

01:22:42.000 The other thing I do is my YouTube channel, The Andrew Branca Show.

01:22:46.000 I do political and legal analysis just about every day of the week.

01:22:50.000 And so check me out there.

01:22:51.000 Give it a look, The Andrew Branca Show on YouTube.

01:22:54.000 Let me ask you this then, so we can leave the guys with something like with a little bit of value.

01:22:58.000 What would you say are the top two or three tips that you can give someone so that it would be very hard for a prosecutor to bring charges against them when it comes to self-defense?

01:23:06.000 Two or three tips.

01:23:07.000 The biggest tip is to be egoless and don't get engaged in confrontations.

01:23:11.000 Don't be getting into fights you don't need to be getting into.

01:23:14.000 That's the most important thing you can do.

01:23:16.000 Only be engaging in fights that come to you that are not safely avoidable.

01:23:21.000 Now, you might do that and still screw it up.

01:23:24.000 That's why we have the book, obviously.

01:23:26.000 So if you can't avoid the fight, you still have to fight within the legal boundaries.

01:23:30.000 But the single biggest thing I see people do wrong is getting engaged in the confrontation in the first place.

01:23:36.000 Like I just did.

01:23:37.000 Which guys don't do that.

01:23:38.000 Or road rage.

01:23:40.000 It's normal.

01:23:41.000 We're emotional beings.

01:23:42.000 It's normal to feel this way about these confrontations.

01:23:45.000 And I'm really glad that you mentioned the whole provoke thing.

01:23:48.000 So if someone comes at you and then you provoke them to come at you even further, that's bad, right?

01:23:54.000 Yep.

01:23:54.000 It could be provocation with intent.

01:23:56.000 You're trying to get them to take a swing as an excuse to punch them.

01:23:59.000 Or at least it looks like mutual combat.

01:24:01.000 You're trying to get him to agree to have a fist fight with you.

01:24:03.000 Which both ways you lose yourself.

01:24:05.000 You lose self-defense.

01:24:06.000 Now, let me say this then.

01:24:07.000 Let's say you tell them, instead of saying, come over here and see what happens, you say, look, man, I don't want to, if you come near me, I'm going to be forced to defend myself.

01:24:18.000 Yeah, that's different.

01:24:19.000 That's neither of those.

01:24:20.000 You're giving them a warning.

01:24:20.000 Look, I don't want to have to do anything.

01:24:22.000 Because you're not consenting to fight, so it's not mutual combat, and you're not provoking them to fight.

01:24:27.000 Okay.

01:24:27.000 So if you say something along the lines of, I don't want to fight, but I will defend myself.

01:24:32.000 Yeah.

01:24:32.000 That's what I would encourage.

01:24:33.000 Just get your hands up like this. 0.99

01:24:35.000 Very placating to witnesses.

01:24:37.000 It looks very peaceful, right?

01:24:38.000 Hey, man, I don't want to fight.

01:24:39.000 This is a great defensive position.

01:24:41.000 this is great to block blows coming in.

01:24:43.000 It's great to reach for weapons on your waistband if you carry weapons.

01:24:46.000 It's a wonderful defense, but it doesn't look offensive.

01:24:49.000 It doesn't look like this.

01:24:50.000 It doesn't look like you want to fight.

01:24:52.000 And then just be backing up, create space, create distance.

01:24:55.000 A lot of times these people are bullies.

01:24:56.000 They just want to control their immediate environment.

01:24:59.000 And if you can walk away from the fight, that's a great way for normal law-abiding people to win a fight is to not have to get into the fight in the first place.

01:25:07.000 You won.

01:25:08.000 Gotcha.

01:25:08.000 Okay.

01:25:09.000 So instead of saying, come over and see what happens, it should be, just stay back.

01:25:13.000 I want to stay back.

01:25:15.000 I will defend myself.

01:25:16.000 Give them a little bit of a warning.

01:25:18.000 If I have to.

01:25:19.000 You might say, listen, if you keep coming closer, I'm going to have to defend myself.

01:25:22.000 And by the way, you should in your mind.

01:25:24.000 So this is more of a tactical thing, but it's useful legally because it's easy to explain the reasons for your decision making and reasonableness is one of the requirements for self-defense.

01:25:34.000 But you might make a decision to yourself, like, if that guy gets within six feet, then I'm going to have to defend myself.

01:25:40.000 So you set up kind of a trip line in your mind.

01:25:42.000 If that guy crosses that bush, that's close enough that I have to defend myself or I won't be.

01:25:48.000 Can you tell the aggressor that?

01:25:50.000 What I would tell him is not so much where the trip line is because that might influence his own decision making, but I would tell him not to come any closer.

01:25:56.000 If you come any closer, I'm going to have to defend myself.

01:25:59.000 So please stay back.

01:26:00.000 I don't want any trouble.

01:26:02.000 Because the trouble with fighting in self-defense is you don't want to be doing it if you don't have to, right?

01:26:07.000 You want 0% force if you can safely get away with that.

01:26:10.000 But when you do have to fight, you have to be fighting 150%.

01:26:15.000 You have to win.

01:26:16.000 If you don't win the physical fight, nothing else matters, right?

01:26:18.000 If you lose the physical fight, all the rest of this is just nonsense to me.

01:26:22.000 So for law-abiding people, it's very binary.

01:26:26.000 It's like a light switch.

01:26:27.000 No fighting, no fighting, no fighting, no fighting, 150%. 0.62

01:26:30.000 Gotcha.

01:26:31.000 Dead men tell no tales.

01:26:33.000 Yeah.

01:26:33.000 All right.

01:26:34.000 I mean, hey, man, guys, learn from my mistake.

01:26:37.000 That was a lot of excellent information.

01:26:38.000 Right now, even my mind, I know how to deal with this in a better state.

01:26:42.000 We learned it.

01:26:42.000 We didn't know.

01:26:44.000 Now we know.

01:26:44.000 I'm glad that we have a professional here that can literally break it down, whatever.

01:26:48.000 And again, that situation that I was in, guys, some of you guys have probably been in that situation throughout your life multiple times.

01:26:54.000 Every one of us.

01:26:55.000 I'm glad they were able to break that.

01:26:57.000 They saved somebody's life.

01:26:58.000 That guy's very weird, bro.

01:26:59.000 Yeah.

01:26:59.000 Very weird.

01:27:00.000 Idiot. 1.00

01:27:00.000 What else we got next here? 1.00

01:27:01.000 Okay.

01:27:01.000 557k viewers in three days.

01:27:04.000 We're fucking growing. 0.99

01:27:05.000 Fixing. 0.98

01:27:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro. 0.98

01:27:06.000 People really like that episode.

01:27:07.000 That trip.

01:27:09.000 So let's go.

01:27:10.000 For a personal experience, next girlfriend ruined my life with a false physical assault allegation. 1.00

01:27:14.000 Is there a way an attorney can utilize studies suggesting that the perceived likelihood of false accusations by women is often overestimated in the legal system, especially when a lack of concrete evidence is present? 0.68

01:27:23.000 No.

01:27:24.000 Sadly.

01:27:26.000 Because the parties are going to be judged as individuals. 0.91

01:27:29.000 So what you can do is if the woman has a pattern of bad behavior, just like I said, document this crazy dude.

01:27:35.000 If a woman has got a pattern of bad behavior, document it. 0.99

01:27:38.000 If she's sending you crazy emails and text messages, document all that so you have a record of it.

01:27:43.000 The best thing to do, of course, is just escape the woman, right? 1.00

01:27:46.000 Remove yourself from that scenario.

01:27:48.000 All right.

01:27:48.000 And then there's one more, right?

01:27:51.000 There's no Vijay J that's worth going to jail over.

01:27:55.000 You're right.

01:27:55.000 No Vijay.

01:27:57.000 W show from Whole Flation.

01:27:58.000 All right.

01:27:59.000 All right.

01:28:00.000 Cool.

01:28:00.000 Guys, we're going to be back with some lovely ladies for After Hours.

01:28:03.000 And what?

01:28:06.000 Speedy?

01:28:07.000 Yes.

01:28:07.000 And Hope Flacian.

01:28:09.000 All right.

01:28:09.000 What are the best tools for self-defense to protect me and my family as someone who's much smaller than me, 5'10?

01:28:14.000 Get a gun.

01:28:14.000 Hopefully, forget when and where it happened, but I saw this one police department bring a news reporter to show them the reaction time.

01:28:21.000 And the police have to react to a life and death situation during a police stop.

01:28:24.000 Needless to say, the news reporter was put on the cop's shoes the whole time and realized how little time they had to make a decision.

01:28:30.000 Yeah, I remember that.

01:28:30.000 I know exactly what you're talking about.

01:28:31.000 They put a bunch of newscasters in use of force situations that cops are always in. 0.94

01:28:34.000 All of them shut their guns.

01:28:36.000 Yeah, when they do that, the journalists shoot everybody.

01:28:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:28:39.000 You know, so this is why I have such. 0.65

01:28:41.000 This is why I have such little respect for civilians like the other retard that came in and said, oh, that was excessive, whatever. 1.00

01:28:46.000 Motherfucker, you've probably never been in a fight or a life or death situation like that before because you're talking from 2020 hindsight. 0.99

01:28:53.000 So yeah, when they did that, it was actually very eye-opening how regular people pull the trigger immediately when they're in a situation like that. 0.99

01:28:59.000 Before you guys speak about somebody, put yourself in your shoes to understand full context because cops are people too.

01:29:04.000 So anyway, yo, Andrew, it's great having you, man.

01:29:07.000 We're doing a bunch.

01:29:08.000 And yeah, man, we'll see you.

01:29:10.000 Great show.

01:29:10.000 Yeah, yeah, we'd love to have you back on.

01:29:12.000 Yeah, I'd love to come back.

01:29:12.000 We'll be back on in case this happens or something like that.

01:29:15.000 Yeah.

01:29:16.000 I got your number, so we'll be back to the end.

01:29:19.000 All right.

01:29:19.000 Absolutely.

01:29:20.000 Later, guys.

Fresh & Fit - July 23, 2025

Attorney Andrew Branca Meets FreshandFit

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