00:08:09.000We got a bunch of stuff going on right now.
00:08:11.000And it's like, it's like almost like you came to Miami and it's like, okay, let's go ahead and talk about Iran because there's a bunch of stuff going on in the Middle East right now, man.
00:10:11.000And it's funny because, you know, the war started February 28th.
00:10:16.000And realistically, it only went on for about five or six weeks.
00:10:19.000We had a ceasefire in the first week of April.
00:10:22.000And I remember ever since April, there's been all this talk about there's going to be a deal, there's going to be a deal, long term deal, war's over, whatever.
00:10:29.000And finally, then, I don't know if it was a week ago or two weeks ago, we get this MOU.
00:10:50.000And I'm reading through the deal and I'm thinking, this is never going to hold because fundamentally the critical issues never got resolved.
00:10:57.000And the big ones were the situation in Lebanon, whether there's going to be a ceasefire, whether there's going to be Iran managing the Strait of Hormuz, whether they're going to charge a toll.
00:11:07.000And then ultimately, those root causes of the conflict, the structural issues like the nuclear program and the sanctions regime.
00:11:13.000And so I'm looking through it and I'm thinking, you know, they're calling it a memorandum of understanding, but it couldn't be a bigger misnomer because there's no understanding.
00:11:22.000The two positions have not been reconciled.
00:11:25.000They have not made an agreement on any of the core issues.
00:11:28.000And so really, it's a giant misunderstanding.
00:11:31.000And I remember when it was announced, the Iranians came out first.
00:11:34.000They were first to the punch in their state sponsored media, and they said, The United States has agreed to give us all this money up front, and we're going to control the Strait, and they're going to impose a ceasefire in Lebanon, and basically we got everything we wanted.
00:11:47.000And Vance came out on the shows the following day, all the morning shows, and he said, That's Iranian propaganda.
00:11:58.000And then, of course, the White House is put in this position where they got to come out and say basically, we didn't agree to what we agreed to.
00:12:04.000Actually, Iran is not going to impose a toll, they're not going to manage it.
00:12:08.000It's going to be freedom of navigation.
00:12:09.000We're not giving them anything until later.
00:12:12.000And basically, as quickly as it came together, it fell apart.
00:12:15.000And that became obvious, I think it was last weekend.
00:12:17.000They're supposed to hold these talks in Switzerland, fell apart, came together at the last minute.
00:12:25.000They tried to put together this agreement where we're going to implement a ceasefire in Lebanon.
00:12:29.000There was this reporting mechanism, not just for Lebanon, but also for the Strait to avoid misunderstandings, escalation, the whole deal unraveling.
00:12:38.000And then over the past week, the U.S. is trying to iron out both of these things the Strait as well as Lebanon.
00:12:44.000They've been doing these negotiations at the State Department in D.C.
00:12:47.000And then, literally, in just the past 48 hours, the whole thing came undone all over again.
00:12:51.000And I guess we'll get into now the big news is that Iran is once again shooting drones at commercial shipping in the Strait.
00:12:58.000The U.S. has retaliated by bombing the southern coast of Iran along the Strait.
00:13:03.000And now Iran is claiming they hit U.S. bases or bases hosting U.S. troops in the Middle East.
00:13:08.000And so you wonder, it's like, once again, how is this meaningfully different from the status quo before the MOU?
00:13:44.000That's the biggest thing because, and here's the thing.
00:13:47.000So the three issues that the MOU deals with, there are sticking points in each of those things.
00:13:53.000It is the ceasefire in Lebanon, it is whether Iran will take control over the strait and what they do with it, and it's the root causes.
00:14:00.000But the thing is, those latter two issues, the strait and the root causes, There's a great deal of room for the U.S. to negotiate on both of those things or to massage and finesse the truth.
00:14:11.000So, for example, Iran said, Well, we're not going to charge a toll.
00:14:17.000We're going to charge an environmental fee, an insurance fee, all this kind of stuff.
00:14:21.000Now, the White House could, one, just lie and they could say, Oh, that's not happening.
00:14:25.000They're not charging a toll, they're not charging a fee because they lie about these things all the time just so they can achieve the deal.
00:14:32.000Two, they could just finesse it and they could say, Well, this semantic thing is really a meaningful difference.
00:15:17.000And it's actually imperative for Netanyahu that they don't stop in Lebanon.
00:15:21.000It's imperative that they don't stop in Lebanon for its own sake, but also in the furtherance of sabotaging the Iran deal itself.
00:15:27.000That's a goal in and of itself for them, too.
00:15:30.000And they're both imperative for Netanyahu in particular, but any Israeli government in general, either.
00:15:35.000You know, the craziest thing about that is like they struck this deal at the peak of the fighting in Lebanon when they were trying to take over that castle where the crusaders had historically fought.
00:15:45.000Which has like a huge strategic benefit of like, you know, you can see literally the Lebanon, the, you know, the northern Israel, and then you can obviously see the border.
00:15:53.000So it's like they were fighting at that point, right when Trump was in France trying to sign this deal.
00:15:56.000So I was like, man, there's no way Israel's going to get back.
00:15:59.000And they made it pretty far past the Latani River.
00:16:30.000I just saw that this is one of the clips that's still blown up on Instagram.
00:16:33.000As I said, like, they're literally responsible for all the wars in the world.
00:16:36.000At this point, it's just like undeniable because it's like, look, Iran, which is allegedly this regime of religious fanatics and zealots, and the Trump administration, they both want peace.
00:16:47.000They signed the deal, they have the handshake, the rest of it.
00:16:50.000It's Israel that is literally insistent on sabotaging this peace so they can have more war somewhere else.
00:17:37.000And that is when Trump announced in the late evening he said, we've got this ceasefire.
00:17:43.000They said, as long as Iran opens the strait, we're going to stop attacking them.
00:17:47.000And then we'll begin a two week negotiation on the bigger issues, a nuclear issue.
00:17:52.000And literally within two hours, Pakistan, which is the broker for the deal, and Iran both came out and they said, no, there's no ceasefire until there's a ceasefire on all fronts in Lebanon, too.
00:18:02.000That was the first ceasefire in April.
00:18:05.000And the following day, the U.S. called them liars.
00:18:07.000The U.S. came out and said, no, Lebanon was never part of it.
00:19:11.000What do you think drove Trump to actually do this deal in the face of, you know, obviously the embarrassment, the capitulation, the Israeli lobby, obviously, heavily, you know, pressuring him not to?
00:19:23.000What do you think actually made him say, you know what, we got to do this MOU, even though I've been trying to delay it, but I got to do it?
00:19:45.000And it's not even just ours, but it was this coordination of everybody dumping their strategic reserves all at the same time China, these other East Asian countries, us.
00:19:54.000So the price was being artificially kept low because we're just dumping all this oil out there.
00:20:00.000And, you know, there was some reporting before the MOU that said realistically, we got about four, maybe six weeks left before we have a real problem.
00:20:08.000Like we have a supply problem that the reserves in America, and this is happening even right now, there's some reporting that.
00:20:15.000At Cushing, which is in Oklahoma, where all the oil goes through, that is reaching this dangerously low level, about 19 million barrels.
00:20:22.000And so it's just getting to the point where we're heading towards this catastrophic energy shortage, which then will just have a ripple effect throughout the entire global economy.
00:20:31.000And so I think Trump said it's imperative.
00:20:53.000I mean, even these guys like Mark Levin and Shapiro, they're out there saying, we need to bomb Karg Island and we need to do all these things.
00:21:00.000And it's like, we can't even put a destroyer in the strait.
00:21:04.000The strait is so narrow, it means that it's basically impossible.
00:21:08.000And submarines can't get in there either.
00:21:41.000You know, and then the other thing, too, like I was trying to explain this, I was like, the only cards they really had left, realistically, was destroying energy infrastructure or a nuclear bomb.
00:22:01.000So I can only imagine, like, I was thinking about this.
00:22:04.000Imagine the Oval Office every day during the course of this conflict, like from Japan, from Indonesia, all these countries, the Gulf states, Trump, end the war, end the war.
00:22:14.000He must have had an insane amount of international pressure to end this thing.
00:22:25.000I mean, at the end of the day, it's like we just.
00:22:28.000We had a set period of time where we had some options before we ran out of oil.
00:22:32.000It's just that's really what it all comes back to the U.S. really underestimated Iran's ability to close the strait and sustain the closure of the strait basically indefinitely.
00:22:41.000And you have this period of time where Trump thought we could bomb them into submission.
00:22:45.000Then it was getting too costly even for us.
00:22:47.000Bombing them was too costly for us because of how we were burning through the stockpile of interceptors and the damage it was doing to our bases in the Gulf.
00:22:55.000It's just too many targets, can't defend all of them.
00:22:58.000So then we transition to the strategy of the bluffing.
00:23:11.000I know Trump is a very difficult person to predict sometimes, et cetera.
00:23:14.000But if there's someone that understands his thought process, because you've been spot on with a lot of your analysis, a lot of your predictions, you've been spot on.
00:24:55.000It was all in Western Iran, where it's all the Kurds.
00:24:58.000And anybody knows what's going on is that the Iraqi Kurdistan, headquartered in Erbil, has basically broken away from the central government in Baghdad.
00:25:07.000That's where the U.S. still has all its bases.
00:25:09.000Israel's very aligned with the Iraqi Kurds.
00:25:12.000And they share a border then with Iran.
00:25:14.000So there were reports at the time in January that there were men dressed in all black, fully automatic rifles, taking over government buildings, municipal buildings in Western Iran.
00:25:23.000It was later reported about a month later that some of these Kurds were armed by the Israelis and by the CIA to cross over the border.
00:26:21.000There's a lot of debate about where and when it was going to happen.
00:26:24.000And basically, the U.S. at the end said, Look, you give us everything, or else, or else we're coming.
00:26:30.000And it's important, too, because me and Utah, it was no enrichment, ballistic missiles neutered to like 300, 400 kilometers, and then no funding of the proxies.
00:26:56.000Except, well, and that's always been the sticking point.
00:26:58.000And that was the ultimatum, as we said.
00:27:01.000And the ultimatum even went outside the negotiations, because in the negotiations, the Iranians won't sit if it's anything other than the nuclear file.
00:27:09.000They don't even want proxies and missiles on the table.
00:27:11.000So they say that is outside the bounds of the discussion.
00:27:15.000So Kushner and Witkoff, because Kushner wasn't even part of the negotiations last year and wasn't part of the first round in February, but he came for this ultimatum and they said, we're not playing around.
00:27:26.000No enrichment, no proxies, no missiles, no nothing, or else we're coming.
00:27:34.000And so I think the mindset was basically a combination of exuberance because of the success in Venezuela, as well as maybe overestimating the pension to the Iranians that they're going to be able to overthrow the government.
00:27:46.000And then I think the Israelis and Trump himself undersold the ability of Iran to close the strait, their willingness or ability to close the strait in a sustained way.
00:27:55.000You know what the most disturbing thing was to me, man?
00:27:57.000Like, the intelligence community told him, you are not going to be able to effectuate a regime change.
00:28:47.000And yeah, I think it was, it is this influence of Israel.
00:28:50.000I mean, it was, Mike Waltz was a national security advisor up until like May last year, and he's an Israeli operative, you know?
00:28:56.000So these are the people in Central Command.
00:28:58.000These are the people in the DIA, in the NSA, the rest of it.
00:29:02.000And you're right, in the buildup to the war, I remember there were a bunch of sources going to Politico and the Washington Post from the military, basically saying, Regime change isn't going to happen because that was like the tagline at the time.
00:29:15.000As Trump said, we want a decisive, definitive confrontation, we want a clean decapitation strike, knock out the regime in one go.
00:29:37.000And that's literally the question we've been grappling with ever since is okay, we crossed the Rubicon, you killed the Supreme Leader, you killed half the regime.
00:30:40.000And then, you know, and then I know you're not a fan of Kent, but, like, he comes out from the DNI as well, and he's saying the same thing.
00:30:45.000And I'm like, well, these guys are, you know, have access to some of the most classified information in the country.
00:30:50.000And they're over here saying, like, yeah, this is a problem.
00:31:26.000The first government official to actually come out publicly against a war was David Sachs.
00:31:31.000David Sachs, who is very close with JD Vance, very close with Peter Thiel, very close with Elon.
00:31:39.000David Sachs is extremely powerful and a connector because it was at David Sachs' house where JD Vance hosted a tech fundraiser for Trump in June of 2024.
00:31:49.000And that is some of the value that Vance brought to the table, which is why he became the vice president.
00:31:53.000And so Sachs is like the conciliary for Vance, Thiel, Elon.
00:31:57.000Also, very tight with Tucker Carlson as well.
00:32:16.000And now, the thing about that position is because of some statute, you can only have that position for 180 days or something like that before you go.
00:32:24.000Because it's not confirmed with a separate.
00:33:00.000When Kent ran for Congress in 2022 in Washington's 10th, I think it was, he got money from Peter Thiel because Kent was running in one of those Trump impeachment districts.
00:33:11.000Back in 2021, there were 10 or 11 House Republicans that voted to impeach Trump.
00:33:15.000Peter Thiel made it a mission to primary every single one of those people, and Kent was running in one of those districts.
00:34:09.000He went to the Quincy Institute and said, We need a pro Israel version of America first, where we give Israel everything they need to bomb Iran.
00:34:26.000It's not like they said, What should we do about Iran?
00:34:28.000They said, What do you think about foreign policy?
00:34:30.000He said, We need to hit Iran really hard.
00:34:31.000So, and then, you know, it's hard to know because Vance has rivals inside the White House who are going to leak to the press to make him look.
00:34:38.000Bad about, you know, did he support it?
00:34:48.000He faded into the background because he knows when he runs for president in the primary in 27 and 28, they're going to say, you know, war in Iran, what happened there?
00:35:04.000And I think that what happened with Sachs, Kent, and Tucker is they are trying to.
00:35:10.000Help extricate him from the liability of the conflict.
00:35:14.000They're going to try and give him an out.
00:35:15.000And Tucker's got this interesting line.
00:35:17.000He's been interviewed a few times recently, New York Times with the British journalist, with Jack Neal, somebody else the other day.
00:35:24.000And they say, so what do you think about Vance?
00:35:26.000And Tucker has this habit of saying, oh, well, you know, he's got the hardest position in the world because, you know, we all voted for Trump and placed all our hopes upon him.
00:35:34.000And, you know, Vance just has to do whatever Trump says.
00:35:36.000If Trump betrays the voters and takes us to war, Vance's job is to support Trump.
00:35:40.000So he really has no choice in the matter.
00:35:42.000Even if he opposes it and it's bad, well, you know, what can he do?
00:35:47.000And what that belies is they don't want him to catch the blame for this next year.
00:35:54.000And I think now, This is why Vance is throwing himself in front of the peace process.
00:35:58.000This is why he wants to be the guy in Islamabad.
00:36:01.000He wants to be the guy at Switzerland that's negotiating the MOU because this is going to be a huge liability, a huge hot potato they're going to have to neutralize in 27.
00:36:11.000Because they're going to be asked, okay, Iran war, what did you do?
00:36:14.000Completely split the base, dude, this war.
00:36:23.000As the vice president, my job is to do what he tells me.
00:36:26.000But what I did is I brokered the peace.
00:36:29.000And I was instrumental in ending it and blah, blah.
00:36:32.000And then the endorsements from Kent, Tucker, and Sachs are going to become critical because all these people that are furious about the war and are leaving the GOP because of it, they're now aligned with Tucker and Kent and saying, oh, these guys are patriots.
00:38:59.000We can talk about that later, but sorry, continue on.
00:39:01.000So, yeah, you're talking about Peter Thiel.
00:39:02.000But, yeah, so the press is all, you know, Peter Thiel's in this war with the press because the press outed him.
00:39:08.000So then he destroyed Gawker because they outed him as gay.
00:39:10.000And then years later, They kind of were all over the boyfriend.
00:39:14.000They were all over the sneaky link or whatever.
00:39:17.000And, you know, we're not really sure what happened there because there's one story where they say the press drove the boyfriend to suicide because they were harassing him.
00:39:27.000Because basically, what happened is the press got the boyfriend to say things in an interview that Peter Thiel didn't want people to know.
00:39:34.000And so maybe that would have invited retaliation from Thiel or maybe that would have gotten him in trouble.
00:39:39.000There's one story which says that thus the boyfriend was so distraught because of these problems that he killed himself.
00:39:46.000Or, you know, some people allege that, you know, it's sort of mysterious.
00:39:56.000But they say that Teal was basically so despondent about this.
00:40:00.000He sees it as such a tragedy that he just left politics after 22.
00:40:03.000And so in 24, he made some public appearances and basically said, I'm done with politics, you know, because they said, your boy is the vice president.
00:40:18.000And so there are a lot of people around Teal that say that he's just not in the mix anymore.
00:40:23.000I'm not sure how much I believe that, though.
00:40:25.000So that's sort of interesting, but I'm just saying that's what I've heard in that world.
00:40:29.000I remember, I think someone asked him about lavender at like, I think it was Oxford or something like that.
00:40:33.000And he's just like, all the further Israel government.
00:40:36.000And it's just like, okay, dude, like, all right, whatever.
00:40:39.000So I guess we could go right into, let's pull up the thing real fast with Lebanon.
00:40:42.000We'll show this video real fast of them like striking the deal because we talked about Lebanon and how that was really the only thing that we didn't have control of.
00:40:48.000And then, of course, the Israelis had control of it.
00:41:02.000It says right here Justin, Secretary Rubio just brokered a framework agreement for a peace between Israel and Lebanon right here in D.C. America, Israel, Lebanon are all signatories.
00:41:10.000Immediate steps include the Israeli military withdrawing from small areas from southern Lebanon that it currently occupies.
00:42:10.000The 14 point MOU specifically says there was a lot of like, there were a lot of questions about what the MOU specifically said about Lebanon.
00:42:59.000And so I said, when the MOU first happened, is it a ceasefire?
00:43:02.000Does that mean no airstrikes in Beirut, but they can keep going in southern Lebanon?
00:43:07.000Or does it mean no airstrikes altogether?
00:43:10.000Does it mean no airstrikes and they have to withdraw?
00:43:13.000Or does it mean just no airstrikes, but they could remain in their current position in southern Lebanon?
00:43:18.000You know, what exactly does that mean?
00:43:20.000Well, then we finally got the terms of the agreement, and the terms said national sovereignty and territorial integrity of Lebanon.
00:43:27.000That is about as expansive of a ceasefire as you can get, because obviously, if a country's occupying your territory and bombing you, you don't have territorial integrity.
00:43:50.000The U.S. is going to host these negotiations from last Tuesday until today.
00:43:54.000It was supposed to be till Thursday, but they extended it today between Lebanon and Israel, brokered by Rubio.
00:44:00.000What's interesting is Rubio gave a statement during these talks, and Rubio said in a press conference, he goes, The terms of the MOU say territorial integrity and sovereignty.
00:44:11.000He goes, Well, it's not territorial integrity when Iran backs Hezbollah in Lebanon.
00:45:33.000You want Israel to withdraw from the territory south of the Latani River?
00:45:36.000Well, then Lebanon's going to have to disarm Hezbollah.
00:45:38.000And if Lebanon doesn't do that, then you're in violation of the deal, and we're not going to hold up our end of the bar.
00:45:43.000So this is them just kicking the ball back to Iran and saying, okay, you want to play this game about sovereignty and territorial integrity?
00:45:52.000You're going to have to do these things.
00:45:54.000And all that does is it just serves as a legal justification to remain in Lebanon and continue to violate the MOU.
00:47:26.000And, like, you know, it's kind of crazy because it's like people forget, like, the Lebanese army is like terrified of Hezbollah because, like, they have more influence.
00:47:32.000And it's like half, I think, if I'm not mistaken, of the Lebanese army is Shiite.
00:47:36.000So it's like they're not going to, they're not going to, there's going to, the military leader, I think he's a Christian guy, the head of the military, but he even said, I'm not going to try to fight these guys.
00:48:11.000Well, Hezbollah is protecting, effectively, Lebanon from Israel.
00:48:15.000And the other thing is, Israel is actively antagonizing Lebanon with their rhetoric.
00:48:20.000It's the same stuff that they would do with Iran.
00:48:23.000I remember last year when we entered negotiations with Iran, the following day, Israel came out, Netanyahu came out.
00:48:29.000And said, well, the only deal we will accept is if we blow up their nuclear centrifuges.
00:48:33.000That's the only deal, that's the only nuclear disarmament we will tolerate.
00:48:37.000And what this is meant to do is provoke and antagonize the Iranians into thinking, we can't trust the U.S., we can't make an agreement without lowering our guard.
00:48:45.000That's the big concern, is becoming vulnerable.
00:48:49.000What Israel says about Lebanon is, we're going to give them the Gaza treatment.
00:48:52.000That's literally what their ministers say.
00:48:54.000They said, what's our plan for Lebanon?
00:49:00.000And then they invaded along the entire border and established a security perimeter, this like buffer zone, that they have now effectively annexed.
00:49:06.000And they're doing that so that they can reassure the people of southern Israel that they'll not be invaded by Hamas or attacked by the rockets.
00:49:14.000It's the same mentality in southern Lebanon, which is how is Israel going to restore confidence and allow the people of their northern settlements to return to the northern border of Israel?
00:49:24.000We got to push everyone in Lebanon 10 kilometers north inside their own country and establish that buffer zone.
00:49:30.000So, You know, the Lebanese are getting bombed in Beirut.
00:49:32.000They're getting bombed in the southern villages and communities.
00:49:35.000So they're saying the only thing that's protecting us is 100,000 rockets from Hezbollah, however many fighters they have.
00:49:41.000So, yeah, that's why you got protests because, and the Israelis know that.
00:49:46.000So they're permanently sabotaging a ceasefire here to sabotage the ceasefire in Iran.
00:49:50.000Yeah, and it's kind of interesting because that's a good point.
00:49:53.000Let's pull up that 14 point memo because, like, guys, this one kind of like counteracts the first one they signed, which is kind of crazy because you're right about that.
00:50:01.000We'll go through it real quick the 14 lines.
00:50:05.000End the conflict and formally transition toward a cessation of hostilities.
00:50:08.000Israel withdraw from Lebanon in phases continued on evolving security conditions.
00:50:13.000And obviously, Nick Stami, if you want to comment on any of these, the Lebanese armed forces will progressively assume full responsibility for national security.
00:50:20.000They could barely hold the border down, dude.
00:53:00.000I don't know if there's going to be any leader that's going to be able to consolidate.
00:53:04.000But of course, it's heavily dependent on the outcome of all this.
00:53:07.000If Netanyahu is seen as weak, if he's giving up Lebanon, if Iran is able to normalize relations with the U.S., obviously Netanyahu will be seen as a failure.
00:53:15.000Because, you know, think about this is his baby.
00:53:18.000They see Netanyahu as strong, he's able to defend Israel.
00:53:22.000His reputation is not fully recovered from October 7th because a lot of Israelis put the blame on him.
00:53:40.000Because that's what's justified all this, which is terraforming their periphery in Gaza, West Bank, South Lebanon, Syria for that matter, Iran, Yemen, you know, this eight front war, seven, eight front war that they're on.
00:54:08.000If none of these things happen, then Israelis are going to say, look at everything we've lost, which is to say, we've been isolated in the world.
00:54:52.000As someone who's like, you know, you've been talking about this for a very long time, one of the pioneers in this space, and enough people don't give you.
00:54:58.000People don't give you enough credit for that.
00:55:03.000How crazy is this for you to see it from the beginning where it's like you couldn't even talk about this topic, man?
00:55:07.000Like you couldn't even utter Zionism or Israel or foreign policy at all with this stuff.
00:55:12.000You would be ostracized, looked at as like ridiculous.
00:55:15.000You're a terrorist abortor or you're anti Semitic.
00:55:18.000Like, how nuts is it to see Israel being completely geopolitically isolated, like the way it is now?
00:55:26.000I never thought it would happen, honestly, because I always thought that was the one thing no one was ever going to talk about because it's just too.
00:55:31.000I mean, you know how it was even three years ago when we did the show for the first time.
00:56:19.000It's like, Literally, Joe Rogan still dances around it, but you know, for the size of his program, he's definitely not pro Israel, which is really interesting.
00:56:28.000You're right, it's lately he's like, I mean, like, uh, you know, he brought, um, you know, Ian Carroll on, and Ian Carroll talked about like the dancing Israelis.
00:56:35.000I was like, what the, I was like, shocking, I was Dave Smith a bunch of times as well.
00:56:39.000So, I was like, I was shocked when like, I was like, oh wow, like he mentioned dancing Israelis on JRE.
00:56:44.000This is insane, yeah, this was like considered like a fringe conspiracy theory for years, and like now people are figuring out that like.
00:56:51.000Israel had foreknowledge of 9 11, significant evidence to show it.
00:56:56.000And like I said before, someone like you who like blackballed, demonetized, banned everywhere, debanked, et cetera, it's like vindicated, man.
00:59:13.000But, like, what I will say is they brought an enormous amount of awareness to the problem.
00:59:18.000I've always looked at it like they attacked the problem from a humanitarian perspective, like, oh my God, they're killing people and genocidal partisan state, et cetera, right?
01:00:45.000And the difference is that the left is not captured in the same way that the right is by Israel.
01:00:49.000The right is deeply institutionally captured by the Israeli government in particular, the Israel lobby, such that it's just a different rule set.
01:00:59.000On the left, criticism of the Netanyahu regime in particular is actually institutional.
01:01:07.000Soros is out there, even though he's a pro open borders, open society Jew, and like one of these Jewish billionaires that's ruining America.
01:01:15.000He is actively opposed domestically in Israel to Netanyahu's party and Netanyahu's vision, you know, this version of Zionism Netanyahu's pushing.
01:01:35.000And so that there's been an opportunity there for people to criticize it and retain their platform access or, you know, career opportunities.
01:02:10.000They said, you know, the left sees the Israelis as white people that are oppressing an indigenous population, extension of the British Empire.
01:02:17.000You know, there's like a socialist angle.
01:02:18.000Me and you both know they're not fucking white.
01:03:03.000So it was important for the left to say those things just to open up that conversation, just to thaw the rules governing that conversation.
01:03:12.000Now, however, I think it's a different story.
01:03:15.000A year ago, you needed the left and the Muslims for that matter, because the Muslims, they're a huge community too.
01:04:08.000And I was very conscious and cognizant of this.
01:04:11.000I remember saying things in a certain way that appeal to liberals and appeal to Muslims because then they boost the content.
01:04:18.000And it's like, look, if what we're doing is like a prison break, it literally doesn't matter.
01:04:23.000As long as the content's getting out there, as long as people are getting the idea that we can criticize Israel, like these guys are hypocrites, they're not beyond reproach, et cetera, it's just about changing that conversation.
01:05:19.000And yet, the left and Muslims, or Muslims and the left, respectively, on those issues, are using criticism of Israel to run cover for those policies.
01:05:27.000Hey, it's all good if tons of Muslims come here.
01:05:34.000And so I think now, now that criticism of Israel is mainstream and popular and maybe the majority position, it's now important for the right.
01:05:43.000The right wing, the nationalists, to assert our own position on this and say, now we need to start drawing some lines and say, listen, we may coalesce, we can create a coalition, perhaps, with some elements of the left or some Muslims, but what we are as a faction is nationalists.
01:06:00.000And so the reason we're against Israel, it's the same reason we're against Soros, because we're America first.
01:06:06.000It's not America first to have open borders or to give money to Israel.
01:06:09.000It's not America first to have Muslims here that only care about Islam and Muslim countries, same way it goes for Jews.
01:06:48.000They are responsible for a lot of the ism, the toxic isms that are in this country feminism, progressivism, Marxism, et cetera, which I want to talk about that too with the DSA.
01:06:57.000Where do you see the Democrat Party going with this as far as like this socialism move that we're seeing?
01:07:04.000You know, I said this before, and I want to get your position on this too.
01:07:09.000I think Momdani, winning mayor of New York City, was the beginning domino of what we're going to see where it's going to be a socialist revolution.
01:07:17.000I'm starting to see these establishment Democrats kind of not be as cool the Hillarys, the Chuck Schumers, the Bill Clinton era.
01:08:12.000And Mom Dhani defeated Cuomo, who was backed by the whole Democratic establishment.
01:08:16.000That was, you're right, the first big upset.
01:08:18.000And then he had this election on Tuesday where all of Mom Dhani's primary challengers, three of them in congressional primaries, won their races.
01:08:26.000And all of their opponents were establishment people backed by Hakeem Jeffries, backed by the labor unions, backed by the Black and Latino caucus.
01:08:34.000That is like the institutional Democratic Party.
01:09:23.00030,000 volunteers, they said they had in New York City, which is just one place.
01:09:27.000And the people that they got to register and turn out, because it's really just a turnout game, it's that the progressives are turning out huge numbers of people that either don't vote Democrat or don't usually vote or don't usually vote in off year elections.
01:09:43.000It's a lot of young white people and these like non conventional minority groups, not like the old school blacks and like, let's say, Mexicans.
01:09:49.000It's like different like minority groups.
01:09:57.000The young people are just like ultra progressive.
01:10:00.000And so, I don't know that that's even going to be good for the Democrats because the reason they got their asses kicked in 24 is because all the big Jewish money left the Democrats because they were so alienated by the young progressives.
01:10:13.000You know, you got to think about guys like Bill Ackman and Sean McGuire.
01:10:16.000Bill Ackman is at Pershing Square, Wall Street guy, Jew.
01:10:20.000He's tied with Larry Fink, who runs BlackRock.
01:10:41.000He's, I believe, a Wharton School alum.
01:10:44.000And so, like these big Jews with all the money on Wall Street who previously were Democrats, donated to the Democrats, did fundraiser for Hillary, they all of a sudden, Bill Ackman signed that letter where he said, the left has gone too left.
01:11:16.000So, these are like two good examples because you got a Wall Street guy from the Eastern seaboard.
01:11:21.000You got a tech VC guy from the West Coast.
01:11:24.000These are the two poles of power in America, and they represent Jews, institutional Jewish money shifting from the Democrats to the Republicans because they were scared off basically by the young progressives, the young white kids, the students, these like militant minorities that are pro Palestine liberation, the socialists.
01:11:43.000And so, the reason they lost in 24, where was the money?
01:11:46.000Like, you look at 2020, So much money went behind the Democrats from all the usual suspects, from like Reed Hoffman, from Zuckerberg, 300 million from the Zuckerberg Chan Foundation, from Bloomberg.
01:12:03.000Like, how October 7th, like, red pilled the Jewish community and they said, yep, we got to go with Trump because he's going to go hard on Israel.
01:12:14.000I remember when Biden came out at that press conference, it was after Biden's.
01:12:19.000Special counsel report came out about his documents case.
01:12:22.000He did a press conference, I think it was like May last year or two years ago, and said, You know, I don't like the way the Israelis are running the campaign in Gaza.
01:12:29.000And the New York Times editorial board totally flipped on him and were like all negative throughout the rest of the year.
01:12:34.000So the Democrats alienated the Jewish media, they alienated the Jewish money.
01:12:38.000Now, how are the Democrats going to get back?
01:12:41.000Well, they're thinking about running a Jew for president like Pritzker in Illinois or this Shapiro in Pennsylvania because they're going to have to reconcile the like militant progressives that hate Israel, like really actually hate Israel.
01:12:53.000From the institutional Jewish money that is like liberal Zionist.
01:12:58.000Maybe they don't love Netanyahu, but they want to defend Israel from what happened on October 7th.
01:13:03.000So they are going to have the same problem as the Republicans, which is to say there's like a parallel dynamic where on the right and the left, the young people, the energy, the kind of ideological core is shifting there is very anti Israel.
01:13:16.000And yet the money, the institutional forces still on both sides is Jewish and they're still pro Israel.
01:13:22.000So the Republicans are going to have this is the Vance Rubio divide, the Levin Tucker divide.
01:14:35.000Shabali, an anti American activist who just won New York State Senate District 13, is an American of Dominican descent.
01:14:40.000She wants the abolition of police, prisons, and borders, as well as the seizure of private property and the nationalization of industries basically, communism straight up.
01:14:48.000She converts to Islam and has said she wants to make sure her Muslim faith is reflected in the halls of power.
01:14:53.000And you know, it's kind of crazy because it's like the Muslim faith is very conservative, right?
01:15:30.000Like, why I hadn't taken the step yet.
01:15:32.000But it was seeing how all of my friends who were showing up to organizing, who are Muslim, were showing up in the space and the grace and love and passion that they had in these spaces of social justice.
01:15:45.000That really pushed me to join the faith.
01:15:48.000And wanting to make sure that we are reflecting that.
01:16:46.000I think it's going to be somebody actually that surprises us.
01:16:50.000And I think it might create a real schism in the party.
01:16:53.000Like, certainly, what might happen is you're going to get a progressive candidate that's going to run.
01:16:59.000And maybe they're not going to be able to actually win the election because you got to think the caucuses and primaries, they start in Iowa, South Carolina, New Hampshire, Nevada.
01:17:08.000These are not hyper progressive constituencies like it is in New York City.
01:17:13.000So I think that you might get a progressive that's going to run.
01:17:15.000Maybe they don't have a real chance of going all the way, but then maybe they're going to make a bid to be the VP.
01:17:20.000They're going to make a bid to be number two or something like that.
01:17:24.000But I think it's going to be a little bit unpredictable because there's another thing going on in the Democratic Party, which is these people are really frustrated.
01:17:32.000They were already pissed off in 2016 when Bernie got screwed over.
01:17:37.000Then they were pissed off in 2020 because Bernie got screwed over again.
01:17:40.000If you remember in 2020, you had a primary and Bernie won Iowa.