00:09:50.000But we figured we would switch it back up, do something for you guys, more of an educational episode, talk about what's going on with the market, how things have changed.
00:10:09.000And I think it's good because, you know, you just put the camera on for more stream hours, then you're just destined to get more clips because some of the clips, like, I would never predict.
00:10:18.000I've always said this like, I have no idea what's going to go viral.0.84
00:10:20.000If I was a YouTuber, I would probably edit out like just a bunch of shit that, you know, winds up being funny.
00:10:27.000A lot of the times the clippers will kind of create like viral sensations and they'll like write fake captions and it's just, it's really good.0.98
00:10:34.000So I'm kind of glad to be doing like the longer things, but it gets to a point where your audience just kind of gets pissed the fuck off.
00:10:40.000They're like, you know, we're here for CLAB.
00:10:50.000Frequently, I think it's like the answer to that.
00:10:52.000So, you brought an Indian guy on, a white guy, one black guy that was kind of different.
00:10:57.000What'd you learn from the camp itself?
00:10:58.000What'd you learn about like people, maybe social media, dating?
00:11:02.000Well, I learned that, you know, thank God, you know, I sort of have like a gift at what I do, and that social media is not something that you could just do.
00:11:12.000You know, there's no secret to social media.
00:11:14.000There's no, oh, I'm going to upload 50 trial reels a day, or, you know, I have to focus on this content strategy.
00:11:20.000It's just, I've never thought like that in my entire life.
00:11:22.000And like we saw it where Jack Doherty was, he came for a second and was trying to explain like how to create like viral content and how to be a social media creator.
00:11:30.000And he's talking about, oh, you know, it has to be like six seconds and you need a viral hook.
00:11:35.000And I'm like, you know, have you ever thought about that in your entire life?
00:11:38.000It's like, no, you just get on, you just speak and you create viral, sensational content, you know?
00:11:44.000So that was sort of refreshing in a way that like no one else can kind of do this.
00:11:56.000And it's like, that's the other thing about content is, you know, if your content is only hosted on your page and you're sitting there like posting reels, it's over.1.00
00:12:14.000We saw this in 2022, how Tate was one of the most viral people on the planet and his social media accounts, his personal accounts were getting banned all the time.
00:12:53.000And there's like a lot of evergreen clips too.
00:12:56.000Like, I'll see clips from months ago just go viral over and over and over again.
00:13:00.000Because you know, if you're posting to new audiences and like different accounts have you know different demographics attached to them, it'll just keep pushing.
00:13:08.000Like, I have like five clips that always just kind of resurface.
00:13:11.000It's funny you say that because Adam from No Jumper, what he'll do is which is kind of a crazy thing to do, somebody will pass away and post clips of them all the time.
00:13:20.000And it's like, holy shit, but it works because it goes viral.
00:13:23.000Yeah, yeah, so clips do a whole lot.0.94
00:14:01.000Yeah, I was like, I told Fresh earlier, I'm like, you know, we should change things up and actually have like a productive conversation, uh, rather than just like a bunch of fucking whores ruining things, ruining the dialogue, obviously lying and main character.1.00
00:14:17.000And like, it's just such a blatant lie.
00:14:19.000And like, you know, it makes it a lot more difficult when there's seven of them, like, you know, sort of agreeing, you know, because they know what they're doing.
00:14:27.000And it's just like, if they were to be honest, then, you know, people would really start to become like resentful of dating even more than they have.
00:14:35.000So it's like, it's very intentional what they're doing.
00:14:59.000So, my opinion in 2024, before I really had any access to not only social media, but just like the IRO world, like I was living in Massachusetts, I was, you know, living with my grandma, never really going out, never really approaching too heavily.
00:15:16.000So, I would tell you that status and money sort of held no weight back then, living in a small town.
00:15:23.000But, you know, I sort of had the realization after I moved to Los Angeles earlier into my career in 2025 that, oh shit, okay, these things actually do matter.
00:15:31.000And sort of like my stance became always that, you know, looks is going to be the main thing.0.83
00:15:37.000It's going to be the easiest thing for you to leverage.
00:15:40.000And looks, you know, and then status and money, you have to hit such an absurd percentile to be able to leverage those things where it's like, you know, if you make $100,000 a year, that sounds significant, but that's almost going to do nothing for your SMV, right?
00:15:53.000It's like you need to be making millions of dollars to be able to.
00:15:57.000Fly girls out and put girls on yachts and jets and all this shit.
00:16:01.000So it's really not even worth mentioning unless we're talking about like absurd examples, you know, of wealth, right?
00:16:08.000Where people are genuine like eight figure a year earners.
00:16:11.000And, you know, that's such a small percentage of the population that it kind of just starts to confuse people, in my opinion, if you start to acknowledge them.
00:16:19.000So I'm like, okay, if we're talking from a sociological perspective, you should probably only acknowledge looks because then people are going to think, oh, I need to actually cuck and like, you know, work overtime shifts and, Start to make a couple extra thousand dollars a week, and that's really going to do nothing for you.
00:16:38.000To utilize the financial angle, you have to be at such a top percentile to actually make it happen and utilize it properly where it's attractive, which, you know, because, you know, I've always said, like, there's a big difference between someone who makes, you know, $100,000 a year versus $500,000 a year, or someone who makes a million dollars a year versus $500,000.
00:16:57.000Well, I mean, you get to another level and you're able to experience certain things, but then, like, for what a lot of girls want, when you show off like a luxury lifestyle, You have to put out this image like, oh, I have access to millions, or it looks like I might have millions.0.55
00:17:26.000And you also start to play a dangerous game where you're trying to be performative and you're misutilizing your resources to sort of put forward this LARP, this persona that.
00:17:34.000You're rich, you know, or you're buying jewelry and doing this kind of shit instead of like valid investments that are actually going to help you get to that next level.
00:17:44.000And that's like a huge issue in Brickle, Miami, especially.
00:17:49.000And we were just talking about this the whole thing about chains.0.99
00:17:51.000It's like I would say that 99% of people would have a better utilization of $15,000, $20,000 than buying a stupid piece of fucking jewelry that every single person has.0.99
00:18:02.000I asked Clav, Clav, you ever bought a chain before, like an actual diamond chain?1.00
00:18:10.000So it just seems a little ridiculous to, you know, try to leverage money, in my opinion, to get girls.
00:18:16.000I think you should leverage things that are within your immediate control, like, you know, your physical fitness, how lean you are, your looks.
00:18:24.000You know, and something else that you could absolutely leverage and learn is just how socially adept you are with girls.
00:18:30.000I think that's a huge part of the equation as well.
00:18:34.000Your neurochemistry, your inhibition, whether you're willing to do Cold approaches, that's something a little bit more significant and easily learnable, in my opinion, than it is to become a multimillionaire.
00:18:47.000Yeah, no, it's a good skill set to know.
00:18:49.000But yeah, like, you know, obviously you can only go so far depending on where you stand SMV wise, right?
00:18:54.000Because, like, if you have low SMV, cold approaching, you're going to have a lower strike rate where you are successful.
00:19:01.000But if you don't, the higher your SMV, the higher the likelihood, which is why I tell people, man, you got to just have it all so you can maximize your chances.0.96
00:19:07.000Because I've noticed, like, every girl's like different.0.99
00:19:25.000And then, sort of like as they age a little bit and are looking to settle down after their hoe phase, God damn it, then they start to take a little bit more of a conscious approach to how wealthy the man is, how much security that they could provide, which is like really cucked that.0.99
00:19:41.000You know, they don't start to sort of widen up about settling down until, you know, there's just like this absurd baggage to them, you know?0.99
00:19:49.000So that's the main problem you run into.
00:19:52.000You know, I see your clips all the time go viral, and it's funny because.
00:20:24.000You know, if you could walk a bunch of girls in, you know, to a party and skip the whole line, that's status that actually matters.
00:20:30.000But to be more specific on what status means, it's actually about social proofing, in my opinion.
00:20:35.000So not necessarily the amount of followers that you have, but the status of walking around and everyone says, when you walk into a club, hey, what's going on?
00:22:09.000So that's, that's what I'm talking about, where it just makes you such an attractive person where, like, everyone is like, holy fuck, you know, it's Clav, you know, when I walk down the street and take photos.0.92
00:22:18.000And that attracts more people who might not even know me, right?0.83
00:22:21.000So if you have a person who, you know, the girl has no idea who they are and that, that occurs, they're immediately attracted.
00:22:28.000And a lot of the time, people aren't really privy to, to live streaming.
00:22:32.000I think they're becoming, uh, more so, but like, they don't, they don't know, you know, what's being recorded.
00:22:37.000They just think it's some, Fucking, you know, YouTube video that no one's gonna vlog, yeah, yeah, yeah, and that it's got no impact, but you know, millions of eyes are constantly on the stuff that I'm doing, um, you know, so that's kind of what occurs.0.64
00:22:52.000And like, even if you don't see direct, like, kissing or direct, you know, sexual inter, you know, interactions between me and some girl who's married, the micro cheating, I don't know if this is like a you know, a feminist or like liberal term, is that like micro cheating?0.97
00:23:09.000I think it's just cheating in general, yeah, to be fair.
00:23:12.000Where they're like looking at you and just obviously attracted, or you know, they're taking a photo with you, for example, and they're purposely leaving the boyfriend out.
00:23:21.000I still consider that cheating, right?
00:23:23.000And that, yeah, that is the part that people aren't acknowledging.
00:23:26.000It's like, okay, this action is still incredibly cucked, even if they're not coming and directly kissing me.
00:23:30.000That happened a couple weeks ago, remember?
00:23:31.000To you, yeah, a girl said, Hey, she wants to take a picture.
00:23:34.000I said, Nah, bro, you gotta be in a picture, yeah, yeah, a couple weeks ago, yeah.
00:23:36.000I said, No, you gotta be in a picture, exactly, yeah, because I was like, What the, like, that's weird.
00:23:40.000And then when I was at the halo effect that you're talking about, it's definitely real because as you guys know, I started doing some of these IRL streams, I was like at Penn State.
00:23:47.000And when you walk around the camera in the fucking light, people that don't even know who you are or whatever, they'll be like, oh, can I get a picture, blah, blah.
00:23:53.000And this one girl came up to me and said, oh, are you famous?0.99
00:24:04.000Because I sent them, she sent the video, she posted on her TikTok, and people were roasting her in the comments like, he's got it right.0.99
00:24:23.000There's a couple other things where, like, you know, with the girls, they might not know who you are or whatever, but they see the camera and they'll be like, oh, let me just get a picture with this guy.
00:24:31.000Or they'll, like, try to come in and talk.1.00
00:24:33.000It's kind of insane how susceptible women are to status.1.00
00:25:43.000It's like you can talk about like how valid the method is or, you know, all this kind of stuff.0.96
00:25:49.000But you kind of need to acknowledge the deeper issue societally that like I shouldn't have to fly to a fucking third world country to get married.0.97
00:26:43.000And this is where a lot of people in like the manosphere red pill space get things wrong.0.95
00:26:48.000It's like you can't come out on one side and say, oh, women are retarded, this and that.0.76
00:26:53.000And then, you know, expect them to be non promiscuous, expect them to behave according to like, you know, whatever religion, you know, this person follows.0.98
00:27:04.000They're just a product of their society, in my opinion.
00:27:07.000So if things are not fixed on a grand level, It's almost impossible to sort of like, you know, enforce that.
00:27:13.000And that's where I get into arguments with the traditional conservatives because I try to tell them, like, dude, this is a new normal.0.99
00:27:18.000Like, I'm sorry, your religion is not going to save you from this bullshit.0.99
00:27:22.000If anything, it'll handcuff you so that when she goes out and tries to divorce you, you're still sitting there, like, with your Christian values.1.00
00:27:44.000So the whole thing is incredibly cocked, and you know, there's just sort of like it's like putting a bunch of Thanksgiving buffet in front of a fat person and saying, Oh, you know, don't eat that.0.96
00:27:55.000It's the same as putting girls into a Sodom of Gomorrah type society, like Miami, for example, and saying, Oh, you know, don't go out and be a whore.0.99
00:28:03.000It's like that's just such a ridiculous thing to say or advocate for.0.99
00:28:11.000So it's like, unless you sort of like, you know, fix the environment that surrounds them and make it.0.92
00:28:16.000You know, to the point where it's not normal for girls to go out and have, you know, 30 bodies and just, you know, be complete promiscuous horrors.0.80
00:28:26.000Like, if that's normal, then it's not on the individual, it's on the society.0.96
00:28:51.000Yeah, so I was doing an IRL stream and we came across some fans and I just saw them and just like sort of the way that the girl was looking at me and, you know, all the stuff that was kind of present.
00:30:30.000But he knew immediately that what I was telling him was correct.
00:30:34.000I call this phenomenon the placeholder boyfriend effect, which is like the guy is just enough to, you know, get a relationship with the girl to give her the security that she wants and urines for, but he's not attractive enough or arousing enough to satisfy her actual real sexual desires.
00:30:50.000So, what they'll do is, is like they have this boyfriend, they can go with him to Thanksgiving, they can go with him and hang out with the family for Christmas.
00:31:04.000So, When it's hot girl summer or whatever, she'll kind of play the field, realize, oh shit, like, I've been dogged out, goes right back to her guy.0.99
00:31:35.000Well, people are just willing to, like, Let girls get away with so much and be so incredibly cucked, you know, because it's like a means to an end to get sex from girls.0.99
00:32:40.000Like, it's like he probably caught her cheating one time and they repaired it and got back together and they couldn't answer your question.
00:33:27.000She's like, I should have never asked for the picture.0.97
00:33:29.000Bro, like, you know, this is kind of insane because I'm not trying to be an asshole here or whatever, but like, this is an extremely average looking girl, bro.0.98
00:33:38.000Like, the fact that, like, you know, women like this are capable of cheating and idiots is taking them back just goes to show how fucking, you know, ridiculous the sexual marketplace has gotten, man.1.00
00:33:56.000She's like, now I have to go through this whole Fucking conversation again, and you know what I mean.1.00
00:34:00.000But she knows old wounds, she knows deep down that it's fine, and you know, the guy's not going to leave because what is he going to do?0.98
00:34:06.000Leave to no one, there's no backup plan.
00:34:08.000Yeah, for her, she's got a million backup plans.1.00
00:34:10.000I probably would have had sex with her that night if she wanted to, you know what I mean?0.99
00:34:17.000So it's incredible how common this is.
00:34:19.000I mean, people in chat right now, you guys, I guarantee a bunch of guys in chat, this has either happened to you or happened to someone you know, yeah, like this.0.96
00:34:26.000That this is so fucking common, bro.0.85
00:34:45.000Yeah, and even if there's no direct indication or you catch them cheating, it's like if you're not an idiot and you're looking and you actually have your eyes open, the signs will be there.0.77
00:34:56.000And it's just they're kind of coping and creating all these different narratives in their head.
00:35:00.000Um, just to say, like, oh, you know, my girl never cheated, all this.0.99
00:35:03.000And it's like, oh, she went on a girl strip to fucking, you know, Las Vegas.1.00
00:35:07.000It's like, dude, are you retarded or what?1.00
00:35:09.000And then she's like rejecting you sexually after.1.00
00:35:13.000You know, just because you don't have a fucking, you know, folder of proof that she cheated on you, it's like, you know what's happening.0.96
00:35:19.000Fellas, we're not saying every girl's gonna cheat on vacation.0.98
00:35:23.000And when it's possible, things can happen.
00:35:25.000And the funny part is, they're like, they meet a promoter.
00:35:27.000Hey, girls, come on to the club or go to on a yacht.
00:35:30.000What's gonna happen to them at that point?1.00
00:35:32.000So they're supposed to, guys with money.
00:35:33.000Status and awesome game, they could probably cheat on you for sure, but it's like, hurt you coming to my mean self is the issue.
00:35:40.000It's you know, I'm saying it's crazy, so yeah.0.92
00:35:42.000So, like, women are not going through the same, um, you know, mental processes as a guy would, and they're not being super logical about, um, okay, you know, let me weigh out all the stats of my current boyfriend versus this guy I'm gonna have a one night stand with.0.98
00:35:57.000I'm gonna get you know, one night out of this guy, never gonna talk to him again, potentially ruin a good thing.0.94
00:36:02.000Yep, that's not going through their head, they're just primal.
00:36:05.000You know, if they're in a stage in their menstrual cycle where they're horny during while they're ovulating, they're just going to say it, you know what I mean?
00:36:12.000Um, so like, even if you're a high status male and you have high SMV, you're good looking, it's still very feasible for a girl to cheat on you because they're not logical, you know, they're not very logical.0.77
00:36:23.000The thing that, yeah, because you know, they're erratic, emotionally unstable, they go off how they feel, you know, what feels right, and yeah, a lot of times that tends to be extremely misleading when you add in drugs, alcohol, and then their friends are getting, I don't get too.
00:38:40.000So if a girl is hitting the gym and in good shape, you can at least be like, okay, she doesn't do this bullshit.1.00
00:38:45.000So that's one, you know, landmine I'm avoiding.0.96
00:38:47.000There's a host of other problems with gym girls that I've been very critical of.
00:38:51.000But the one positive is that, like, they at least abstain from the when it comes to drugs and alcohol for the most part.
00:38:56.000For the most part, they're disciplined to some, yeah, to some degree.1.00
00:38:59.000But, but, gym girls also come with a whole slew of issues where a lot of them are narcissistic attention whores and you know, like to fucking they're basically like online thoughts a lot of the time selling their uh bodies on Instagram, or they're going to be taking a bunch of fucking protein supplements, like shitting themselves all day.1.00
00:39:13.000That's that's another fucking you know, stick it up the house.1.00
00:39:20.000Those uh, way isolate supplements are brutal, man.0.99
00:39:25.000So that's another pill to acknowledge.
00:39:27.000Yeah, what are your thoughts on that with cold approach to the gym?
00:39:29.000I think cold approaching the gym is just an issue of like, I wouldn't want to ruin an environment that's meant for me to be productive by feeling like anxious because, you know, I see a girl every day, I eventually do a cold approach, and now it's awkward.
00:39:43.000Now I'm like, fuck, like I don't want to go to the gym or I have to go to the gym at a different time.
00:40:12.000I think full sending, just like a bunch of random approaches, is probably a bad idea.
00:40:17.000The only way because I know people ask me this all the time like, let's say you got a membership at like an Equinox or LA Fitness, don't go to your home gym, go to another branch.
00:40:24.000Yeah, if you want to further away, if yeah, go to another branch that isn't your home gym, if you want to try to do that, you know, because that way.
00:40:31.000You're able to still get the benefit of talking to girls at the gym without the consequence of it being awkward later, should it fail.
00:40:56.000So, Miami sober means that you do drugs, but you don't drink.
00:41:00.000So maybe this is ketamine, 2C, cocaine, all the powders, but you don't drink.
00:41:06.000You know, because drinking ruins like one of the major growth pathways that's conducive to hypertrophy.
00:41:12.000Whereas, you know, drugs are bad for you in a lot of ways and they're massively addictive, but you could kind of like cheat the system on a short term basis, you know, sort of like the problems with drugs start to manifest, you know, in forms of addiction and overuse and overdoses and all those kind of things.
00:41:30.000But in terms of like how you look physically, there's no calories, it's, you know, all that kind of stuff.
00:41:49.000But yeah, no, I have seen that where people that bodybuild or people that, you know, do anything where they're trying to maximize their physical composition will do hard drugs over drinking alcohol.
00:42:00.000Alcohol is so bad from like a hypertrophy standpoint.
00:42:15.000Well, because cocaine, a lot of people don't realize that's something that could kill you immediately, even on your first ever usage of the drug.
00:42:23.000Because, you know, the risk of cardiac arrest also goes up by 9x if you're mixing with alcohol.
00:42:57.000Oh, I didn't even inquire, but I personally don't like to just, you know, go and be someone's jester personally.
00:43:05.000Like, I like to make my own content that can exist without sort of the necessity for all of these other people.0.98
00:43:12.000And, I don't like the whole like, you know, clip farming other streamers and, you know, going back and forth with fucking reactions and all this shit.0.79
00:43:19.000That's just really not how I built my brand.0.91
00:43:22.000You know, and what you sort of see is there's this temporary surge in, you know, all of their viewership and all of their exposure.
00:43:48.000They're no longer a jester for him.1.00
00:43:50.000Their brand just goes to shit again.0.99
00:43:52.000Well, I was reading something on Twitter that, like, something like the staggering majority of all the people that went to stream review, all their views have dropped off.1.00
00:44:26.000I think that also fucked up the numbers because I've noticed with like female streamers, if they're not tied to like a popular male streamer, it's inevitable their career is going to die.0.99
00:44:41.000Yeah, and it also ruins like the authenticity of the interactions.0.97
00:44:45.000And I sort of noticed this with Camp Looks Max is like people are more willing to like create content and be their authentic selves if there's not the presence of women.
00:44:53.000You know, if women are in the room, same as this show now, how we were talking about before the show, that some people are a little more reserved in the things that they would say if there's a couple of girls around, which is surprising because, you know, the people that you have on here do social media already.
00:45:06.000You would think that they wouldn't care, but they do.
00:45:09.000They're less willing to actually say their opinions, they're less willing to be themselves.
00:45:14.000And that sort of is like a disaster for content, is what I found.
00:45:18.000I mean, you know, I've always said that like we're kind of in our own area of the internet where we have no problem saying women are stupid.1.00
00:45:24.000But like, if you go to like a normie, right?1.00
00:45:27.000And you say something like, 'Women are retarded,' bro, they're gonna take crazy offense tonight.0.99
00:45:30.000And I've noticed when I go to the college camps, I'm like, 'Yeah, women are retarded,' bro, they get triggered.1.00
00:45:33.000Like, it's like, Normie's like, 'You know, we hang, we get it, but like when you're around regular motherfuckers, they look at you like you're a crazy Nazi or some like evil dude when you say that type of shit.' Well, it's like, it's more so the fact that the women are present, so they're sort of forced to take a stand against that.1.00
00:45:49.000But if you were in a room with a bunch of fraternity guys and there was no women there, you say, 'Women are retarded,' they'd be like, 'Hell yeah, man.' Yeah, precisely.0.98
00:46:06.000And sort of like they start to virtue signal and LARP and play this character, which is stupid because if you actually are your true self, women are more attracted to you, even if you're saying things that are sort of disagreeable.0.87
00:47:29.000Well, to be fair, I mean, her content strategy kind of worked because we're talking about it right now.
00:47:34.000So I feel like, you know, from a marketing standpoint, like, you know, I could kind of see.
00:47:39.000Yeah, but I mean, you're gonna have to.
00:47:41.000I just use Eric's example, but yeah, but you know, but but it might have worked, but you know, one day she's gonna have to face you know what's above.
00:47:48.000Um, so that all no, but from a long term standpoint, I get what you're saying because that was your goal to stream and be a streamer.
00:47:55.000That just fucked it up because you just stopped streaming.1.00
00:47:57.000But for marketing, what I've realized is like women just dominate short form, yeah, and they they suck at long form.1.00
00:48:04.000Like, I can barely think of like you know, three or four like good female streamers that are actually good.1.00
00:48:10.000That people watching, like, oh, there's some substance.
00:49:31.000Well, and the thing is, like I've always said this, you could put 50 million eyes onto just a random person, and unless they have a product, unless they have a personality, they're just not going to convert anything.
00:49:45.000You can give people these big viewership moments and put them on all these different streaming events like Streamer University, but they're just never going to convert that viewership because they have no talent, right?
00:49:56.000But if you put someone genuinely talented, They're always going to convert.
00:50:00.000That's why I try to prioritize, and I always did this throughout my career, talking to as many new audiences.
00:50:05.000Anytime we had a media opportunity to go on someone else's show, I'm like, yes, because I actually have something new and fresh to talk about.
00:50:14.000So I might as well speak to as many people as I can.
00:50:19.000And obviously, on our side of the internet, we're not considered normies.0.97
00:50:23.000So it's also good to get out there and set the record straight with a lot of bullshit because it's kind of crazy how when you come from a certain.0.93
00:50:31.000Sect of the internet, they automatically assume certain things about you.1.00
00:50:34.000Then you sit down and talk with them, like, oh, what the fuck?0.98
00:50:36.000Like, you're actually very reasonable.0.99
00:50:42.000Like, you know, I've never once in my life called myself an alpha male, but people make YouTube videos saying, oh, two talks to go for me, blah, blah.
00:52:21.000Bro, in the political space, and I know we won't talk too much about this, Clap.1.00
00:52:27.000But they literally go back and forth talking shit about each other about political bullshit.0.99
00:52:32.000And Hassan is the biggest left wing streamer on there, Osman Gold is the biggest right wing streamer on there, and they just react to each other's clips every fucking day.0.99
00:52:38.000And I just said, I had it, and I was like, yo.0.98
00:52:39.000You guys just need to fucking go and debate, bro.0.98
00:52:41.000Like, Osmond Gold just got to sit, you got to fucking set up a thing and do a debate, dude.0.99
00:52:44.000This is annoying, you know, and just have it.0.92
00:52:46.000But I don't think Osmond Gold wants to do it, to be honest.
00:53:35.000You know, if I know, like, for you, for example, you're like, hey, I made a political, I don't really care about that, I'm not interested in it.0.83
00:53:39.000I'm not gonna tell you, well, Clef, you need to debate people.0.99
00:53:41.000Like, no, because you don't give a shit about that.0.98
00:53:44.000But if you're sitting here with a certain political ideology or whatever, you need to be able to defend those belief systems.
00:53:48.000But if I talk with Clef about, hey, talk about, let's talk about looks maxing or let's talk about improving your SMV, he could talk about that all day and actually debate someone on why.
00:53:57.000His methodology might work over someone else's because that's what he talks about.0.99
00:54:00.000So, my thing is if you're going to label yourself as a political commentator, you better be able to fucking debate.0.98
00:54:04.000If you're a looks max, you better be able to explain to the trad cons why looks are so goddamn important.0.98
00:54:08.000So, like, that's kind of how I look at it.0.78
00:54:10.000And if I'm ever to talk about politics, for example, I had an interview with the Daily Mail earlier on stream and sort of they were asking, and I'm willing to provide like an analysis because I talk to a lot of people.
00:54:24.000So, she says to me, Well, why do you think a lot of people in your demographic, like, You know, young white males were not turning out and voting Republican in the midterms.
00:54:33.000And my reaction was just based on sort of people I've talked to, based on my analysis of the political discourse, is that sort of the Republicans didn't even make an attempt to win that voter base.
00:54:45.000Like they just sort of said, oh, we already got these guys.0.98
00:54:57.000So they either don't turn out or they vote Democrat.1.00
00:54:59.000And it's like a big fuck you to the RNC.0.84
00:55:02.000You know, so that kind of stuff I'm willing to acknowledge because that's not like an opinion, that's just sort of that's an objective analysis of like the facts based on you looking at your own demographic audience.0.98
00:55:11.000Yeah, that's exactly what happened, by the way.
00:55:13.000That there's a 40 point swing, and that audio, those guys were the same people that pretty much put Trump in in 24 and they swung the other way this time.
00:55:19.000Yeah, so that's an that's a just that's not even an opinion, that's a fact, a fact.
00:56:20.000Not another promise for a central platform will behave response, but a system designed to know as little as possible about you as possible.
00:56:27.000Search Key today in the App Store, K E E T in Google Play.
00:59:00.000If you want me to come to your college and do debates and set up a table, if you're a college student, click this link, click start a chapter, put in your information.
00:59:10.000After you put in your information where you go to school, blah, blah, blah, one of my people are going to contact you immediately and we'll get you through the system.
00:59:15.000And then we're going to help you get a chapter.1.00
00:59:17.000Once you get that chapter, I'll show up at your school and we can go ahead and tell the libtards they're retards.1.00
00:59:21.000So, if you guys want me at your school, you guys literally every single day, yo, Myra, come to this school, Myra, come to my school, come to my school, blah, blah.1.00
01:01:03.000So, you have, because you have to get a student to make a chapter for you that then, then you come in under that chapter to do the debates and everything.0.99
01:01:11.000Because these schools, they can't censor you because of freedom of speech, but getting the organization is, The pain in the ass.0.97
01:01:20.000And they can also tax you with the price as well.0.98
01:03:05.000They actually mog like anything that you would find in Miami, any college town going out.0.53
01:03:10.000Like, if you go to like, you know, Michigan or any of these big schools, Penn State, you are absolutely going to find hotter girls than you will in any big city.
01:04:09.000Clout is a little bit overrated because, like, you know, say you're pop and say you got 10k on IG, is that really going to do much for you?
01:04:16.000It's like, no, no, you know, the game has changed a lot, it'll help you, like, but yeah, it's not that much.
01:04:22.000Because I've always said, like, if you're a guy and you got 10k followers, that's like a girl having like a hundred thousand, but that's like a baseline now, but that's a bit, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, to your point, just no, you've said for years, you need you got to have 10k at least if you want to leverage at least, even get your followers, if you want to even be considered like a human, yeah, you can be a subhuman under 10k, but yeah.
01:05:02.000The funny thing is, this is a little bit controversial, but dating really hasn't changed since like 1985.
01:05:09.000You know, if you look at the average number of partners, of sexual partners specifically that women have, Like these metrics just haven't changed as much as people would like to speculate.
01:05:19.000People say that, oh, you know, things are a lot more hypergamous or things are a lot more sexual degenerate.0.56
01:05:25.000And that's sort of true, just the exposure to more things.0.94
01:05:29.000Like women are certainly able to, you know, get with celebrities more, get with people internationally.0.56
01:05:35.000But if you look at how many times a girl is actually having sex, that number really hasn't changed significantly, you know, which is crazy.0.99
01:05:44.000I think it's more prevalent now because we can see it.1.00
01:06:54.000So, in the streamer world, what you kind of see is people who immediately come into the picture.
01:07:00.000It's not that hard to monetize and hit, like, you know, that 10K month mark.0.97
01:07:04.000You got to deal with fucking some gambling, rainbat type of situation.
01:07:09.000You know, but sort of to get to the other side of that mountain and start making like the millions of dollars that people do at the top, there's really no in between.0.99
01:07:17.000You don't see people making, you know, 500K, one mil a year.
01:07:20.000You either see really like 100K or like multiple millions and like, The gap in between just doesn't exist.
01:07:29.000So it's not like a linear rise to success, is what I would say.
01:07:34.000Because everyone wants to be an influencer.
01:07:57.000And to maintain that level of like relevancy for that long, it's almost impossible for most people.
01:08:02.000And the, and I'd love to, and Clive, I want you to talk about this too, because you're a young guy and obviously you appeal to a lot of young people and, you know, The number one career that young people want is to, you know, be an influencer or whatever.
01:09:32.000So when I come across like smaller people, I'm like, okay, this guy has a chance, you know, and I'll tell them that.
01:09:39.000But if someone has genuinely got no fucking chance in hell at becoming a content creator who's successful, I'm not going to beat around the bush.
01:09:46.000I'm not going to lie to them because that's.0.66
01:09:47.000Very damaging to them if they're gonna, yeah, it really is because it's the easy thing to say, Oh, yeah, man, you got it, just keep trying, follow your dreams, yeah.
01:09:55.000But you're selling them down the river, uh, but by giving them this lie, so it's always better to be honest, be like, No, dude, uh, get a job, you really are not talented, you've got nothing going for you, yeah, or or you know, or at least get the job.
01:10:09.000So, because like what I did was I came from the professional world and I was able to segue into social media.
01:10:13.000And the reason why we were able to kind of rise up so quick is because I bought good equipment off the rip, we got a good studio, a professional right off the rip, like.
01:10:20.000I had some money to invest to make the content really good from the beginning, but this is what?
01:10:25.000Now you're competing since, you know, streaming and, you know, social media stuff has like become so popular after COVID because people were stuck in their homes watching TikTok all day.
01:10:33.000Now social media is the way people get their entertainment.
01:10:35.000So you're competing against bigger streamers, bigger influencers, and TV.
01:11:09.000Not necessarily just, it's really just people have no talent.
01:11:13.000There's no creativity because anything that's controversial, even if it's like a work of art, like if you look at like a Tarantino film, like a lot of the stuff that he's made that's a genuine masterpiece would not be like that.
01:11:46.000And that's, that's sort of competitive, dude.
01:11:49.000Well, it's not even really just about competition.
01:11:51.000It's just like the censorship aspect of things, which is why those sort of films are no longer allowed to be, you know, made.
01:12:00.000But going back to my point is like, imagine if you were to lie to someone and they were to spend, you know, whatever it costs to put the studio together.
01:12:07.000And you, you know, you have the setup, you have the fucking TV and the live stream, and you put them in front of the microphone after they've invested hundreds of thousands of dollars, and they're like, Hey, Myron Fresh, what do you think about Goy Theft Auto 6?
01:12:49.00010 years ago, the barrier to entry was a lot less.
01:12:52.000But I think since the popularity of social media has grown and it's become competitive to TV, you're competing for a lot of, you know, you're competing for a small market share.
01:13:02.000And I would argue like the 2024 election proved it to me that like social media now has more influence than regular celebrities.
01:13:08.000Like Trump got in because of podcasts and influencers endorsing him.0.84
01:13:12.000Meanwhile, Kamala Harris used your traditional A list celebrities like a LeBron, a Taylor Swift, and she got pummeled.
01:13:17.000I would argue now that with the current streaming set that we have right now, it's just the beginning.
01:13:23.000I think it's going to go way further than this, for sure.
01:13:43.000I just see sort of streaming as like a means to an end to create more like short form sensational content.
01:13:50.000Like, I don't think when I'm doing a stream, like, okay, let me think about like my metrics, how the audience, like, you know, is sustaining and the audience retention.
01:13:59.000Those numbers don't really matter to me as much, you know, because sitting there and convincing someone to watch a stream for multiple hours, that's a hard sell.
01:14:07.000You know, the reason that I've been able to blow up so much where I'm like sort of internationally recognized is.
01:14:20.000And, you know, the good thing with that is like the longer you stream, the more you can put out, the more clips you can put out, the more clips you put out, the higher the likelihood of you striking gold.
01:14:31.000If you put, you know, if you're streaming for four or five hours and from that you're able to get 50 clips, you've just increased your likelihood of going viral off of those 50 clips.
01:14:39.000So the more content you put out, the more you can clip it, which obviously is like, you know, So true.
01:14:45.000And you see these people making this mistake also of like, you know, thinking that the revenue is going to come from, okay, my KPP or I'm going to make, you know, however much per hour and let me just try to stream for 12 hours every single day.
01:14:58.000And just like, you know, even if it's boring video games, it's like you're quite literally better off from a financially motivated perspective to just get on there for one hour, like do a bunch of crazy shit and then go and do something else, you know, go and find staff to carry you further.
01:15:14.000Like streaming hours and making money from actual streaming itself is, Kind of dead, you know?
01:15:47.000I mean, when you were doing your MOG World Order, you know, you can say if you want, you'll probably spend a fuck ton of money just to keep the operation running.0.90
01:16:10.000Now that I've done both, because I've started doing IRLs with my brother, the thing with IRL, so this is what I've realized.
01:16:17.000Desktop, if you're an intelligent guy, you're charismatic, you have a good grasp on things, you can absolutely be really good on desktop, especially if you make content that's like political or whatever it may be.
01:16:30.000But if you're not, then obviously IRL is another route.
01:16:34.000But IRL, you have to plan shit out a lot of the times.0.91
01:16:45.000I think IRL streaming, it's a little bit easier in certain regards once you're already there and once things are moving.
01:16:52.000Because, you know, a lot of the time, like, you know, you're relying on just sort of the environment and, like, you know, maybe an IRL, like a girl coming up to you or like people talking to me.
01:17:03.000So I would say I'm probably not even speaking that much in an IRL stream.
01:17:46.000No, it's for me doing a desktop to doing the IRL, they're both pretty difficult because on the desktop, you got to know what you're talking about.
01:17:52.000But, you know, with the IRL as well, you have to be creative.
01:17:55.000Now, which has more impact, desktop or IRL?
01:17:58.000I would say IRL because, you know, if you're not doing an IRL stream, if I were to be a guy who sits in, you know, the basement all day saying my philosophy about lux maxing or I'm speculating whether lux is more important than money and status, I've sort of got no proof, right?
01:18:14.000I'm not actually, but when I go out and I do a stream and, you know, I'm actually like putting things into practice, we're having like the moments of like the girls cheating, like that's sort of like backing up my philosophy in real time.
01:18:28.000I'm really glad you said that because when I was doing IRLs, like, because when I do my IRLs, it's not so much I do an activity, it's just me and my brother just chopping it up and women being hoes or some other shit like that.1.00
01:18:40.000So we try to like make it, you know, we'll just walk around and re chat and answer questions.
01:18:44.000And then what'll happen is, is like, Some will come up, a dude with like that's cucked by his girlfriend, and the audience will see literally what we just talked about with like a placeholder boyfriend, and then it happens right then and there.
01:18:54.000So, there's absolutely like some semblance of like when you do desktop and you talk about this, then you go out into the real world and it's like shown real time.
01:19:01.000People are like, oh, this guy literally called this.
01:19:03.000That happened several times when I was in Austin.
01:19:06.000Uh, when we were working on Sixth Street, I was talking about like how you know this is how women move, this is what it is, blah blah blah.
01:19:11.000And a lot of the stereotypes or a lot of things we said came right there to fruition on the stream.
01:20:01.000Then you have to be creative and make content because you got to find people that are going to be creative themselves or kind of like, React off of your content from before.
01:20:34.000Like you can print money if you're willing to go 24 7, but then you have to deal with overhead costs, getting a location a lot of the times.
01:21:22.000And then, like, the stay, if you forget about it, it's ridiculous.
01:21:25.000And this comes back to that conversation where we're talking about the disparity you were saying, you know, one if a creator might have like making, like, you know, six figures a year here, but then, you know, then you got the other guys over here at the top level who are making, you know, M's, right?
01:21:39.000Because obviously it's so, yeah, it's either you have it or you don't.
01:23:24.000Katie Great says, WFNF crew, Myron, still out here being productive, installing new hex lights in my coups barbershop since an accident owner went away.
01:24:04.000I always said, I was like, clavicular is needed because he needs to show all these young guys, like, what female nature really fucking looks like.0.96
01:25:43.000Can I give you like a preface real quick?
01:25:45.000So, uh, guys, in the space of Red Pill, right, we talk about like you know, getting girls, acquiring status, our looks, and uh, obviously, hitting the gym.
01:25:53.000And you do all stuff, you get the girls, it's great, life is good, you know, your Red Pill rate is over, you feel satisfied as a man now, but then it's like You get it becomes easy for you, like you know, meeting girls, going out kind of like, oh, this is nothing.
01:26:09.000It's like it's like a walk in the park.
01:26:10.000Can you talk about like what that does to a man afterwards?
01:26:14.000Yeah, so this is like a very niche thing, and like not one person in this audience is gonna get it, but like it gets to a point where when getting girls is as easy as just opening up your Instagram DM requests, and like I'm not even ever just like sending a girl a message, I'll just go through my requests, like you know, come over and like to go even further.
01:26:35.000A lot of the times, this is either automated through like some AI bot responding to my messages or like an employee going through the messages.
01:26:44.000And they're just like, oh, okay, there's a girl in your apartment.
01:31:05.000But give the audience a real feel description of how they should date.
01:31:12.000Nowadays, because I feel like it's very similar from back in the day, but what's the current strategy they should follow to find a girlfriend or even just like succeed in life with dating?
01:31:22.000I think that you shouldn't even step into the arena until you sort of have like the stats to back it up.
01:31:27.000Otherwise, you're just going to build up a ton of negative reinforcement on your psyche, right?0.96
01:31:32.000So that's why I knew, and this was like the best thing that ever happened to me to get black pilled from such a young age because when I wasn't good looking, when I had no status or money, I didn't even fucking attempt to talk to girls.0.82
01:31:42.000You know, you knew what needed to be done, fair.0.74
01:31:44.000Yeah, I knew exactly what I needed to do, and I was just on it.0.99
01:31:47.000I worked hard, I didn't, you know, chase pussy because it would have just been a brutal fail, and I would just have embarrassed myself.0.99
01:31:53.000So, I go out, you know, I look smacks, I, you know, become successful.0.99
01:31:57.000Okay, now I'm stepping into the arena, and now let's figure it out.
01:32:01.000Um, so that's exactly the thought process and the mentality that I think a lot of these young guys need to have.
01:32:06.000And unfortunately, like, if the viewers are a little older, uh, you know, 25 or whatever, and you went through a ton of like brutal high school experiences, like getting cucked.
01:32:15.000Um, you know, being in bad relationships where you stayed with girls cheating, um, that's sort of going to give you this horrible outlook on dating, this sort of like really black pilled, uh, approach, like, oh, it's completely over, like, I've got no chance, um, because of your experiences, right?
01:32:30.000And, and once that builds up, it's just, it's very over.
01:32:34.000Uh, and I would say the other thing is don't listen to me, you know, I'm, I'm 20 years old, I'm still trying to, to find that answer, you know, that's kind of like the ethos of, uh, a lot of these IRL streams is like, okay, let's, let's figure out what's going on here together, yeah.
01:32:48.000I've always said when it comes to this, like you have two choices when it comes to the pursuit of women.
01:32:53.000You either work hard now on yourself to increase your sexual market value and then work less hard to pursue the girl, or you work hard to pursue the girl, but you don't have anything to show for it if everything fails.
01:33:07.000I'm just going to dedicate everything to the pursuit of women, don't work on themselves.1.00
01:33:11.000Now they have to work significantly harder to get the girl.0.98
01:33:12.000And then if she leaves them, that was all a waste.
01:33:14.000However, but if you had put the time in to make yourself more attractive, not only is it easier to deal with the woman, you can also replace her.
01:33:21.000And I think this is a big reason why so many guys are whipped or stuck.0.97
01:33:25.000It's like they didn't put the work in to build up the confidence to be able to walk away from her when she does bullshit because they got her by the skin of their teeth.0.98
01:33:33.000You either work hard now so you don't have to deal with the bullshit later or go get the girl now, pursue it now, but deal a lot of bullshit later.0.99
01:36:12.000And they would just like blatantly lie and they would literally tell people that a 5'2 ugly subhuman had a better chance at like a good looking chat if they just learned this like secret formula of like cold approaching.0.99
01:36:24.000And it's like, dude, like get a fucking grip.0.94
01:36:26.000And like, you know, that's why I came in and sort of had like the extra nuance that like your looks do matter, you know, on top of all of this other stuff like money and status.0.98
01:36:36.000And that's sort of like the correct answer.
01:36:38.000But just completely rejecting the premise of looks is just like so absurd.
01:39:27.000You guys are going to see us with him more.
01:39:29.000And then also look out when we start doing the OSF stuff that, you know, Clav is absolutely going to be one of the guys that does the tour with me as well.
01:39:36.000So, we're working that out for you guys, too.