In this episode of the Freshly Fit Podcast, we talk about dating in Vegas, what it's like to be single in Vegas and how to navigate the dating scene. We have a special guest on the show this week, who is a 27-year-old esthetician from California named Ariel.
00:00:26.000But yeah, so guys, we're going to just kind of get right into it, because as you guys know, we don't have our intro and all that other stuff pre-rolled, ready to go.
00:01:27.000We literally ask this question to every single panel of girls.
00:01:30.000Yeah, so what we do is, so you guys are kind of familiar with this, we collect all the data and we actually have like a whole, like, we've interviewed like 3,300 girls.
00:01:40.000So we literally keep all the data, like, you know, the average age, where they're from, that type of thing.
00:03:28.000Was it after the new patch where the guy can message you now or was it still on the whole like where the girl has to message first?
00:03:36.000I think it was the girl it was my first time using dating apps and I think it was I had to message first but I didn't know exactly what I was doing so I think either I messaged him or I responded to an inquiry.
00:03:59.000I mean, dating on that app, I think that was the most easiest app for me to use just because I've heard different things about the other apps.
00:04:08.000So I thought Bumble would be the most...
00:04:10.000It definitely gives women the most latitude, for sure.
00:04:14.000Well, it worked out for you, so there you go.
00:13:11.000It was funny because I did custom clothing.
00:13:16.000I ran a kiosk in the mall and then he was one of the shoe cleaner guys.
00:13:22.000So what have you learned from this whole interaction with this guy or your baby daddy that you would take forward now to your next relationship?
00:16:20.000The first one I called off because I realized he would never grow with me, so I realized if I wanted to grow, I'd have to leave him behind.
00:16:27.000Real quick, for each engagement, how long were you engaged for?
00:16:30.000Well, the first guy I was engaged to was my high school sweetheart.
00:16:33.000We were together for four years and engaged for one year.
00:17:12.000So how long were you guys actually engaged?
00:17:15.000So he asked me to marry him three times, the last guy, but I said yes the first time and then I called it off because he was still actually married to somebody else.
00:17:23.000So I called off the engagement because he gave me the ring and I kept the ring, but I was like, you need to figure out your stuff first.
00:19:24.000Online might be better for one of those because smart guys are typically shy and they're not the type of approach people.
00:19:30.000So online, if you're looking for more of a nerdy, intelligent, that type of guy, I would say online because they're the type of people that aren't really like social.
00:19:41.000And what have you learned from meeting your current guy now that's helped you move forward, I guess, with dating?
00:21:36.000I think communication is one of the most important things in relationships.
00:21:39.000And if you thoroughly communicate how you feel and what you need with somebody, they can either adapt and try to meet your needs, compromise, or you have to accept them for what they are or not accept them and leave.
00:21:51.000So there's different levels to like communicating that you have to like understand.
00:22:32.000Real quick, we got PeachSlayer88 in the chat says, Thank you FNF for changing my life since 2021. I used to be a simp before that and now since I've been watching, I've had the mindset of chase dreams, not women.
00:22:43.000I got signed on to agency WFNF. Shout out to you, bro.
00:23:50.000Well, I did numbing, you know, so that was my coping skills.
00:23:53.000So I think it wasn't until four and a half years ago when I stopped drinking, when I truly started to...
00:24:00.000Want to learn who I am and why I am the way that I am.
00:24:08.000So for me, dating, I was with my kid's dad for almost eight years.
00:24:19.000And then from there, that shit was toxic.
00:24:23.000After that, I mean, we've been separated for almost two years now in February.
00:24:30.000I've dated since then and I feel like because I've healed and I kind of know what my healthy boundaries are, I feel like I see a lot of people's unhealthy boundaries and where they...
00:24:44.000So you've technically been single for the past two years then?
00:26:38.000They're in an uncomfortable situation that they don't know how to address and communicate properly.
00:26:44.000So, for example, there'll be men that will be insecure about what their girlfriend is wearing.
00:26:49.000However, that's something that you can communicate.
00:26:51.000If your girlfriend is wearing these items when you met her, then you should not expect her to change her appearance based off of how you feel other people are approaching her.
00:27:01.000So sometimes men will come off as very...
00:28:12.000How could you say that to someone you love?
00:28:14.000How could you talk to someone you love and say, oh my god, I love you so much?
00:28:18.000And with this thread that you're kind of going through, would it be fair to say that this is what kind of happens after the discussion about clothing?
00:28:25.000No, it could happen in any, not just clothing, but I just can give little examples of like a relationship I was in where one moment he would be so in love with me and the next moment I would disappoint him in some way and he would talk to me in a way that was not nice.
00:28:40.000And I felt it stemmed from me doing something that he didn't like.
00:28:44.000What was it in particular that he didn't like that he spoke to you that way?
00:30:45.000I think for me, my experience has been, because I've been an entrepreneur, so, and I've gone, my, obviously, those, the type of men I go for are entrepreneurs as well.
00:30:55.000So, I'm always on, we're always wanting, like, gold crushing.
00:30:59.000And I've noticed when it, when I get a little bit too high on certain things.
00:31:03.000Yeah, then it's a competition where it's like, bro, one day I'm gonna be less and you be more, like, you know, and then it gets into, like.
00:31:15.000Well, when I was directing and operating locations in Vegas for kiosks in the mall, and then I was in school, and I was running my household, and he was running kiosks and locations in the jewelry business, but he wasn't making as much money at the time, so it made him bitter, I feel like.
00:32:54.000Whenever you go into any relationship, it's what the person did to you and when you leave, you want to know what you could have done better for the next person, of course.
00:33:05.000Yeah, because I find it interesting that you're attributing some of his hostility to his earnings versus is it really from his earnings if he was making generally the same amount of money when you met him or just your behaviors that annoyed him?
00:33:18.000And then you go ahead and cope and say it's because you earn more money than him.
00:34:15.000Let's say you guys were in a relationship and he told you that you need to paint your nails a certain way, wear certain clothing, and he scrutinized everything that you wore and how you went out when you presented yourself.
00:34:55.000Like, I want to make sure, like, if I'm, like, I was just talking about this with a friend.
00:34:59.000Like, if I'm overweight and you don't tell and I'm telling you or whatever and you have those friends that are like, no, girl, you still look fine, whatever.
00:35:06.000I'm like, no, like, because I want to be the best version of myself.
00:36:33.000So wouldn't it make sense for you to say, yeah, the relationship is great while you're live right now versus saying it's complicated?
00:36:38.000No, I mean, as far as like, when it comes to like the details, it's complicated because we're on, you know, other sides of the spectrum, but it's good.
00:37:56.000Like you have to make sure that you guys are compatible.
00:37:58.000You have to make sure that they're not like creep.
00:38:00.000You have to make sure there's a lot of things that come into it. - Yeah. - And then on the other side of the spectrum, there's men that are like, I wouldn't date a woman with a kid because I feel like this.
00:39:36.000Well, I mean, because it's the safety of our kids.
00:39:39.000Okay, now realistically speaking, do you think you qualify for that compared to other single women that are younger and don't have children?
00:39:50.000Not you in particular, but do you think that women that have children qualify to the same standards as someone who doesn't have kids, realistically speaking?
00:40:48.000Assuming all things are equal, Both girls are the same exact person essentially, but one is a little bit older with two children versus the other one has no children and is younger.
00:41:34.000You're basically conceding that age and amount of children absolutely matters in your value.
00:41:38.000And this is kind of what you guys are dancing around, which I find is very interesting during the course of this conversation.
00:41:44.000That I think you guys inherently understand that your value is intimately tied to your age and if you have children or not when it comes to how men assess you.
00:41:52.000It's just that you guys don't like admitting this.
00:42:37.000No, I'm talking about, well, yes, that's typically women are attracted to, but men don't like to date older women is my basic premise here.
00:42:46.000I mean, all of your boyfriends right now, complicated guy, is he older than you?
00:44:10.000So women get a lot of value from being with a single father versus when a guy comes into a relationship with a single mom, at some point he's going to bear the brunt of raising that child.
00:44:32.000Money is like the number one thing in relationships which causes turmoil.
00:44:37.000So when you're not worried about money, that's a whole thing you can take off of the table that you don't have to worry about.
00:44:44.000Kids are usually difficult when the mom and the dad don't get along or agree with each other.
00:44:52.000So, when there's no mom in the picture, but there's kids, totally fine.
00:44:57.000It's just a little difficult getting along with the kids and getting to know them.
00:45:00.000When there is a mom in the picture still, and then there is kids, you have to be able to have a good relationship with the mom because the mom has control of the kids.
00:45:11.000So, you would deal with baby mama drama?
00:45:14.000I don't deal with baby mama drama, no.
00:45:17.000But if I can be cordial with the mom of the kids...
00:45:54.000And you're not expected to provide resources, which is the biggest thing.
00:45:57.000Versus as a single dad, at some point you're going to have to deal with that ugly reality that you're going to support this kid that isn't yours to some degree.
00:46:35.000But on the other hand, single moms end relationships all the time.
00:46:37.000And then what ends up happening is not only do you have emotional investment with that kid as the man, now you have financial investment as well because you've spent money.
00:46:44.000Because at some point, as a guy, you're expected to be the breadwinner to some degree, even if it's partial.
00:46:49.000I mean, keeping it real, all things being equal in fear, if I was going to buy a car, use a new, I want to buy a new car.
00:47:02.000That's why I think as a woman my age, 26, single, no kids, I typically like dating people significantly older because they appreciate my youth more so than the people my age.
00:47:18.000And they also have a lot more value and wisdom that I can learn from.
00:47:23.000So that's why I'm typically attracted to people at least like 20 years older than me.
00:47:57.000So, if you guys get a new job, right, would it be fair to say that when you get that new job, You have to adhere to their code of conduct, uniform policy, and kind of follow their rules of the company?
00:49:33.000She put it as intelligence is the main prerequisite, but the reality is the ability to provide resources is...
00:49:39.000So, I've dated guys that are significantly older than me that have been providers, and I have dated guys that are not providers, but they mentally stimulate me to become a better person.
00:49:49.000So, the guy that I was having an issue with, the one that was telling me how to dress and what to do and blah, blah, blah, he wasn't a provider.
00:50:17.000I was totally okay with being with someone like that and hearing what he had to say and remedating and compromising and agreeing with what he felt in the moment was hurting him or addressing his feelings.
00:52:02.000Guy that you mentioned originally with insecurity, he had these issues with the way that you addressed and addressed customers, but he wasn't a provider, so therefore, you can't tell me shit.
00:53:43.000He was the type of person that would never go out his way to like try to like give me anything if it wasn't for like a special occasion or something like that.
00:56:18.000I think the thing here that's really important is girls tend to blame the guy for not committing or not being a provider or whatever.
00:56:27.000But what I've realized is girls never point the finger at themselves and be like, well, maybe something's wrong with me and he didn't want to commit to me.
00:56:37.000But it's like I mean, we just went through this whole insecurity thing.
00:56:41.000Like, I find it interesting that you guys wouldn't call your employer insecure for giving you a code of conduct.
00:56:46.000But if your guy employed some level of boundary on the way you behave, that's considered insecure.
00:56:52.000Well, it's just because when you go into the relationship, like how you meet that person, how you are when you meet that person is how they should accept you.
00:57:01.000If you're trying to chain somebody after a month or so of dating them, that's not the person you want.
00:57:07.000You're just trying to make them someone they're not.
00:57:10.000Do you think most women are wife material in the West today?
00:57:22.000So if you guys agree with me that most women are not wife material in the United States as they come, wouldn't it be fair to say that men typically have to come in, get a girl, and make her a wife?
00:57:50.000Okay, so I think it's completely healthy and practical, especially in 2024, to come in as a man and get rid of a lot of bad habits that modern women have.
00:57:58.000However, it doesn't go the other way around where you can tell him what to do because he's a leader.
00:58:03.000You might waste your time with a woman if you don't want to.
00:58:05.000I guess men put women in brackets or in certain things, right?
00:58:09.000So what are those things that they put them in?
00:58:11.000After you know women for like, I don't know.
00:58:22.000But the point is that you're going to get put in one of these categories.
00:58:25.000And what I would say is that it's your job to make sure you get put in the wife category by obeying him.
00:58:30.000But the problem is that modern women, you know, Kind of like you guys, no offense, don't really respect male authority or masculinity in general.
00:58:47.000But whenever men implement boundaries, it's considered insecure, toxic, or some other We never came back to me.
00:58:55.000We said the whole insecurity on like when there's the competition and they start talking to you and making you feel belittled instead of trying to uplift you.
00:59:03.000Well, why are you competing with your men in an arena that you're not supposed to be competing?
01:00:19.000You guys said, we're thinking, and you guys couldn't come up with anything.
01:00:21.000No, well, she went, and then she went on her tangent on the A and B. No, because I literally asked twice.
01:00:26.000Give me an example of how men are insecure, and neither of you can really come with an example.
01:00:29.000She came with one, kind of, with the competing?
01:00:32.000Well, when she kind of went, that's when I was like, oh, okay.
01:00:34.000I was like, well, I know that because with my ex of eight years, I know that it came from the faults that I had in the relationship, and I had my indiscretion, my indiscretions, And that's where, like, the trust was broken.
01:00:48.000And you really can't come back from that.
01:01:32.000I guess in his eyes, they were never really forgivable because he said he forgave me, but then it would end up being him taking things out on me and then him being mean and aggressive.
01:02:11.000Let me kind of say this in a way that would make more sense.
01:02:15.000When you get with a man, you basically become the employee.
01:02:17.000Now, I know a lot of women don't like to hear this because you guys are all strong and independent after listening to Beyonce for the past 10 years.
01:02:36.000I kind of have a man, you know, because I want to.
01:02:39.000I think you guys forget that when you come into a relationship with a man, you're basically the employee.
01:02:43.000He's supposed to be the employer, assuming he's a leader like you guys want.
01:02:46.000So when you come in and deal with this guy, sure, you were one way when you met him, but then it's on you to change and get on his program so that you get wifed up.
01:02:55.000But the problem is a lot of you women think, I'm going to continue to be the same person I was when I met him, and hopefully I'll get the ring.
01:03:01.000And then next thing you know, two years later, he's not providing for you, or he doesn't want to commit because it's complicated, or you're in a relationship and he's getting annoyed by you, right, walking out the house.
01:03:10.000And I don't think women understand that you have to change when you get with a guy, right?
01:03:14.000If you want to move up the totem pole, say I hire you at a prestigious law firm.
01:03:16.000Yeah, be submissive, make sure that I was doing all that stuff too.
01:03:43.000If a guy's very attractive and high status, a lot of people are applying for his law firm.
01:03:47.000You have to show some level of competence and be an asset to that law firm to move up and eventually make partner.
01:03:53.000The problem is that most women think, I'm going to continue to do what I've done, and I should make partner, and that's just not how it works.
01:03:58.000That's why so many women perpetually stay single.
01:04:02.000Because you guys only care about what you want, but you don't necessarily care about what the man wants.
01:04:05.000Like, for example, with you, you've highlighted a lot of your personal careers and accolades.
01:04:09.000We don't give a fuck about none of that.
01:04:27.000Yeah, but do women find these men attractive?
01:04:29.000So all men that you're saying that they're able to be a leader and provide?
01:04:34.000Do you see what I mean here when I say women use traits that men don't give a shit about to try to rationalize their behavior and why they deserve a guy versus like that's like me going on every single date and saying I spent two hours to get ready I got 30 pairs of Jordans and you know I did fashion week like I ran down the runway you'd be like the fuck okay that's good for you but how the fuck does this benefit me?
01:04:54.000But every conversation is not like that.
01:04:56.000You don't know who you're, you know, speaking to or going out with.
01:04:58.000I mean, as a general idea, I see what you're saying, but that's not everyone.
01:05:02.000No, but what I'm trying to say is in modern society, that's what women lead with is their careers and their titles and how much money they earn and their ability to be independent.
01:05:09.000When they're talking to men who probably make less than them or something like that, they might want to...
01:07:37.000Well, the other example I want to give why I came to this, well, I've had this conclusion for a while, but if you guys noticed earlier, you guys, one of your complaints was that men are bullies and rude.
01:07:45.000And then I asked, well, okay, what's one of the traits that these men have?
01:07:49.000And you guys said that they're successful, right?
01:07:52.000And what I've realized is that Women will typically pick assholes because they're emotionally satisfying.
01:07:57.000They kind of get their emotions up and down.
01:07:59.000And that's what women are in foreign relationship.
01:08:00.000There's a reason why you guys read these stupid ass novels, you know, and, you know, love to imagine things in your head.
01:08:06.000And one way to kind of curb that is you need a man, right?
01:08:09.000That's rashly sound, aka your father, that has your best interests or heart to put you with a guy that he might be boring or square, but he'll probably be a good provider.
01:09:46.000But you didn't realize that that guy didn't treat you good and was an asshole, but you realize you take that experience and you meet a guy that's actually sweet to you and nice to you.
01:09:55.000It makes you appreciate that sweet person, that nice person.
01:09:58.000I'd argue it makes you not appreciate him even more.
01:10:47.000I said you can either understand women or you can respect them, but you can't do both.
01:10:51.000And the reason why I say that is I trust you guys to be women, which is act like children, not have any kind of accountability, make bad decisions, and then immediately infantilize yourself and try to get appeasement from society and feel sorry for you.
01:11:03.000Versus like with men, when we make our mistakes, we typically have to eat it and we got to deal with consequences with you guys.
01:11:07.000You can always say, oh, I didn't know I'm a victim.
01:11:11.000And I look at it like, since women lack accountability in many different things, especially within relationships with men, I'm just not going to give you guys the authority in the first place.
01:11:22.000I'm just going to go ahead and understand you guys move a certain way and behave a certain way, so I need to be the leader and just kind of guide you through everything.
01:11:29.000When a guy meets a girl, you kind of got to let her know what the program is up front and let her know, take it or fucking leave it.
01:11:35.000Because The other issue is that in modern society, I don't think a lot, like we discussed before, I don't think many women are wife material.
01:11:46.000You think you could motivate him or whatever it may be or tell him what to do.
01:11:50.000And with that said, I do see your perspective because a lot of guys are idiots.
01:11:54.000But I think for men, they need to kind of step up and understand that women are the inferior gender and we need to step up and be leaders in every way because realistically speaking, you guys are emotional, erratic, and Make a lot of bad decisions.
01:12:07.000And we have only ourselves to blame if we put you guys in a leadership role in the relationship and it goes to fucking shit.
01:12:12.000If I give children dynamite and they blow their hands off, though the children bear a little bit of responsibility for blowing their hand off, it's ultimately my fault for giving them something that blew their hand off because I know better and I'm supposed to be the leader.
01:12:27.000And I know that sounds like a very fucked up way to look at it, but I think this is the way that it's worked for Most human history where men were in leadership roles and led women in relationships.
01:12:36.000How do you think the men are leaders today's age?
01:13:15.000I think it's also interesting because the man that you're talking about, the man that's going to lead and provide and to guide his relationship and...
01:19:13.000The ones that are functioning and like literally they all love each other and they can live in a household and it's actually like it works for them.
01:20:56.000You understand that if you want something and you disincentivize that something by giving them a negative reinforcement, they're not going to give you that something.
01:21:06.000Be negative when you're just getting to know somebody.
01:21:08.000You just tell them what you like, what you want, what your dreams, how your life, you think, and you do the same thing when you're meeting somebody.
01:21:56.000You guys wear wigs, makeup, eyeliner, all this shit.
01:21:59.000Like, I would argue women are far more deceptive than men are when it comes to the things that make them attractive, right?
01:22:05.000Like, as a guy, we typically have to have skin in the game.
01:22:08.000We gotta pay for the first day, invite you, everything else like that.
01:22:11.000In general, a lot of the things that you see about us are fairly congruent to some degree.
01:22:15.000With you guys, everything about you guys, feminine mystique and deception.
01:22:19.000So, if you guys want honesty and transparency, I would argue men are far more transparent than women in a multitude of different things, way more than you guys are.
01:22:27.000Like, you know, women don't want you to know their body count.
01:22:29.000We don't know when you guys are in heat.
01:22:30.000We don't know if you've got makeup on or not.
01:22:33.000All these things that, you know, deceive men, but that's considered okay in society.
01:22:37.000But if men don't want to disclose, hey, look, I maybe want to have other women because I'm going to get a negative consequence of saying that, you guys look at that as that's deceptive.
01:22:45.000I think it also depends on the age of the women that are dating because I feel like women that are young, like in their mid-20s, you know, it's harder for men to be honest and open with you guys.
01:23:24.000Would it be fair to say that finding a leader and a provider and a guy that exhibits these traditional masculine qualities is hard to find in 2024?
01:24:06.000If he meets all your requirements and you like him, but you're saying that it's not that he doesn't want to commit, then what actually makes it complicated?
01:24:18.000I mean, as far as I don't mind distance and stuff like that, but there is like a I guess not longevity, but it's just the time we need to be perfect.
01:26:51.000Okay, so your prerequisite is he tells you up front.
01:26:54.000I just need to know up front what I'm expecting from this person.
01:26:59.000But realistically speaking, knowing that Muslims punish men for telling the truth about this, wouldn't it be fair to say that he probably won't tell you and then you might catch him cheating and then if you do catch him cheating you guys have that conversation?
01:27:26.000Don't put me in a situation where my health is in danger because you weren't thinking about me.
01:27:32.000I know that I can't fulfill every single need from you, from any person.
01:27:36.000Not one single person can fulfill every need you have.
01:27:39.000So I know that whether it's mental or physical, there's going to be other people in his life that are going to fulfill the needs that I can't.
01:27:47.000I just want us to be able to be open about our desires and our wants and needs.
01:27:54.000Well, knowing now that you have high standards, and most guys aren't going to be honest about this when they first meet you, are you more willing now to have that conversation like, look, bringing this up in the beginning, I'm okay with you having other women, but you need to practice safety.
01:30:17.000So, since you guys don't initiate the mating process, you guys need to...
01:30:22.000Destroy anything that could initiate that process and that's your responsibility.
01:30:25.000Because I think a woman's job is to be loyal and not be a slut.
01:30:28.000My job is to provide and protect for you.
01:30:31.000If I fuck some other bitches on the side, that's not really as bad.
01:30:33.000I would argue if we had a scenario where we're outside and someone attacks you and I don't physically stand up and protect you, that is the worst act of betrayal versus me having sex with another woman.
01:33:31.000So, with that said, since your main utility is sexuality, as your partner, it would be in your best interest as my girlfriend to ensure that that sexuality stays only to me.
01:33:45.000Because I think you guys would feel some type of way that if I was out with some chick, Right?
01:35:42.000If there was a feminine class or school that taught women how to be feminine, friendly, and modest, taught you how to cook, clean, and ultimately how to treat a man, would y'all take it?
01:35:59.000I'm going off of certain experiences, but I was being the wife, making sure I would go and do all that stuff, come home, and still make sure...
01:37:28.000They picked a really good group of women.
01:37:30.000Shout out to Shay and actually the guys that, just so I get it correctly here, Post Game Profits and Bull Content Studio for bringing this together with the girls.
01:37:53.000A doctor did research proving that the child's DNA stays in a mother for at least 20 years after birth, which means you're contaminated by foreign DNA after you have another man's baby in you.
01:40:01.000Men want to, like, grow and learn, and women, we want to kind of, but once you make it seem like you're belittling me, now I got to put on some, like, big boy pants and be like, no.
01:40:12.000And to bring everything full circle, why I said that, that I'm sensitive to your issues, is directly from the criticism I gave Drake.
01:40:18.000I basically said, since, like, 2007, when he got on the scene, He's been kind of pushing this air of being soft and in your feelings and being extremely sensitive and emotionally erratic, which obviously are feminine tendencies.
01:40:31.000And then obviously a bunch of things come after that.
01:40:33.000So though he's not the only proponent of this, I think he's a major one, especially since he's been dominating hip-hop the past 20 years, where he's made men significantly more sensitive.
01:40:43.000I think the feminization of men began in the 60s and it's just been a progressive movement.
01:40:48.000Downward trajectory, but I would say that within the last 20 years, Drake has absolutely been huge in the urban community for pushing this propaganda.
01:40:56.000I think that's basically what the tweet I made.
01:40:58.000We got millions of views and people got pissed off.
01:42:29.000And, you know, call and ask questions.
01:42:30.000And he actually put him in touch with one of our watch guys that said, hey, I'll buy it back from him for 20K. Dude, never fucking contact me.
01:43:10.000Would you rather focus on your career then have a family or put family first then a career?
01:43:14.000If you're able to focus on your career first and you don't have children or a partner, you're just completely single, not dating anything, you don't really have a choice but to focus on your career.
01:43:23.000Now, if you're with someone and you guys are stable and it's like the right person and things like that, then, you know, and he has his career, then that gives you the opportunity to focus on your family and do stuff like that.
01:44:02.000So, I mean, obviously, I have to put my kids first.
01:44:05.000I have two sisters that are 19 and 20, and I tell them to focus on their career and then establish yourself before starting a family or before picking a man that you decide.
01:44:18.000And even if you do pick a man that has a good career, like right now my sister's dating somebody that just enlisted in the Army, Great.
01:46:49.000I wouldn't, I mean, though it is fucked up in an act of betrayal, I wouldn't say formally it's cheating if he abandoned the family to go do drugs.
01:50:04.000So I think for most people, they're going to say maybe two to three years, something like that.
01:50:10.000But I think if a guy knows that you're the one and he's actually interested in you becoming important in his life, it's going to be pretty soon.
01:50:15.000So I won't say like two years, three years.
01:50:17.000Let me be like, as long as it takes for him to understand that you're the one, which means it could be six months, could be a year, could be less, could even be longer.
01:50:24.000But again, the time is important is you being the person that he needs you to be.
01:50:36.000Because the reason why I have such a wide variance is because guys that are more religious will tend to probably propose earlier on, right?
01:50:43.000Versus guys that are more secular might wait and be a little bit more reserved.
01:50:46.000So that's why I give that wide variance.
01:50:49.000But I do think that getting with a guy that is religious is a good move, especially if you're a religious woman.
01:50:55.000Because, you know, someone that's secular a lot of times isn't going to be as beholden to their beliefs unless, like, they're really on point with a lot of other things in life.
01:51:02.000But religious men tend to be more, being God-fearing and, you know, believing in your conviction makes you, you know, more likely to adhere to traditional masculine traits, right?
01:51:11.000Like, if someone's a devout Christian, he's going to understand that, you know, he needs to be the provider-protector, right?
01:51:16.000Or someone that's Muslim or even Jewish.
01:51:18.000Like, you're going to, if they're Orthodox, whatever, they're going to, well, they won't marry you, actually, never mind.
01:52:58.000We kind of talked about this with Ryan yesterday, but just to summarize, our view on marriage is that it's a great institution.
01:53:03.000I think with children, it needs to be there.
01:53:06.000However, we don't like the way marriage is done in 2024 in modern society where the state is involved and it incentivizes women to divorce you and take your resources.
01:53:14.000So if people can find a way to get married without the state involved, I'm all for it.
01:54:31.000So, the average girl, by the time she's like 22 years old, especially if she's college educated, she probably knows her way around men pretty well.
01:54:38.000She's been getting hit on since she was 10. Getting flirted with in high school, middle school, college, etc.
01:54:44.000So she's probably, by the time she's 22 years old, has interacted with 10,000 plus men, right?
01:54:48.000Like, of course, she's not going to deal with all of them.
01:54:51.000Like, I'm saying, like, 10,000 men have probably made a pass on her.
01:55:57.000So with all of that said, right, because you said, hey, the celibacy and stuff, the lack of celibacy, right, from both genders is kind of a manifestation of feminism and what we've done where we've over-sexualized women.
01:56:11.000And to deal with that, a lot of guys have to almost, to figure this shit out, they have to get sexual experience because if a guy's a virgin or not sexual experience and he gets with a girl that is sexual experience, it winds up happening.
01:58:19.000Oh, yeah, you can't have, like, guy friends.
01:58:20.000If you're in a relationship and stuff like that, guy friends, that's, like, kind of pushing it.
01:58:23.000Well, I don't feel like all guy friends want something.
01:58:25.000I've had friends that, like, literally that conversation had never happened.
01:58:29.000It's mainly been off of, like, certain things like, oh, my girlfriend's coming.
01:58:33.000Like, just so she's not by herself and stuff, can you come so you guys can chill together while we, you know, everyone else is, like, chilling and doing stuff like that.
01:58:39.000So, I mean, other than that, but being here in person, actually hearing you guys, it made a lot more sense than the clips of y'all cussing us women out and...
01:58:50.000To your example, I do think that there's a sliver of a potential where a guy can be friends with a woman.
01:58:57.000But I'm saying in 99% of cases, it's just not that way.
01:59:00.000The only time I've ever seen a woman be friends with a man and it actually works out is when there's heavy consequences for either party engaging in sexual activity.
02:00:26.000Yeah, because the thing is, is that when you guys hit 30, life is significantly different for you than when you were 20. Yeah, I'm in my prime.
02:00:34.000Like, you guys are in your prime in your 20s versus at 30s, things are starting to decline.
02:00:38.000Versus for us, we're at our lowest at 20. Like, men, like, we only gain value as we get older.
02:01:50.000Like, we'll take a 20-year-old bubble head, as you would say, that's compliant over a 30-year-old woman that's going to be annoying any day.
02:02:00.000So that's what I mean when I say women age in dog years, because at 30, like, you don't have the same value to a man as you did when you were 20. Versus for me, at 30, I'm going to have way more value than I did at 20. I didn't ask them at 20 at all.