Fresh & Fit - Dating In Las Vegas vs Miami - LIVE FROM VEGAS

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00:00:01.000 What's up, guys?

00:00:02.000 Welcome to the Freshly Podcast, man.

00:00:03.000 You guys are probably wondering, like, yo, you guys are live in Vegas.

00:00:06.000 We're in Vegas.

00:00:06.000 This is awesome.

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00:00:08.000 But yeah, we obviously were in a different studio.

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00:00:18.000 Yes, shout out to them for the studio and all that stuff, as well as the guest for tonight.

00:00:22.000 Yeah, and your homie, right? 0.56

00:00:23.000 Yeah, Shay.

00:00:24.000 Yeah, shout out to him for making this happen.

00:00:25.000 Yep.

00:00:26.000 But yeah, so guys, we're going to just kind of get right into it, because as you guys know, we don't have our intro and all that other stuff pre-rolled, ready to go.

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00:00:41.000 So ladies, we're in Vegas right now.

00:00:43.000 Obviously, you know, we're from Miami.

00:00:44.000 But we want to know how dating is in Vegas itself.

00:00:47.000 Is it hard?

00:00:47.000 Is it tough?

00:00:48.000 How's dating been for you so far in Vegas?

00:00:50.000 We'll start right over here.

00:00:51.000 Wait, should we introduce them?

00:00:52.000 Yeah, sure.

00:00:53.000 I literally got this in.

00:00:55.000 Alright, sure.

00:00:56.000 So your name, age, what you guys do for work, that type of thing.

00:00:59.000 So we can start right here.

00:01:00.000 What's your name?

00:01:01.000 Ariel.

00:01:02.000 Alright.

00:01:02.000 How old are you, Ariel?

00:01:03.000 27. Where are you from originally?

00:01:05.000 Here.

00:01:06.000 Okay.

00:01:08.000 What do you do for work?

00:01:09.000 I'm an advanced esthetician.

00:01:12.000 Okay.

00:01:12.000 I specialize in post-op.

00:01:14.000 I ran a medical spa.

00:01:17.000 Okay.

00:01:18.000 And then highest education level completed?

00:01:22.000 Trade schooling. 0.57

00:01:24.000 I'm going back.

00:01:25.000 And don't worry, ladies. 0.75

00:01:27.000 We literally ask this question to every single panel of girls. 1.00

00:01:30.000 Yeah, so what we do is, so you guys are kind of familiar with this, we collect all the data and we actually have like a whole, like, we've interviewed like 3,300 girls.

00:01:40.000 So we literally keep all the data, like, you know, the average age, where they're from, that type of thing.

00:01:45.000 Okay.

00:01:46.000 So you said trade school.

00:01:47.000 All right.

00:01:47.000 And then relationship status?

00:01:49.000 Single.

00:01:50.000 All right.

00:01:51.000 Are your parents still together?

00:01:53.000 My mom's a widow.

00:01:55.000 Okay.

00:01:55.000 So yes.

00:01:56.000 Forever and ever.

00:01:58.000 Okay.

00:01:58.000 And then Fresh, your favorite question.

00:02:00.000 Birth control?

00:02:01.000 Birth control?

00:02:03.000 No.

00:02:04.000 Okay.

00:02:04.000 No?

00:02:05.000 No, no, no.

00:02:05.000 That makes you emotional.

00:02:07.000 I got that part locked in, so.

00:02:09.000 Okay.

00:02:10.000 That's a good point.

00:02:12.000 Any kids?

00:02:14.000 Yes.

00:02:14.000 Cool.

00:02:15.000 Okay.

00:02:15.000 And then last question is ethnicity.

00:02:17.000 Thai, Chinese, Armenian.

00:02:19.000 Okay.

00:02:20.000 Oh boy.

00:02:20.000 That's a unique mix.

00:02:22.000 That's four parents.

00:02:22.000 Okay.

00:02:24.000 Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

00:02:26.000 There you go.

00:02:27.000 What about you?

00:02:28.000 What's your name?

00:02:29.000 My name's Israel.

00:02:31.000 Okay.

00:02:32.000 That's a great name.

00:02:32.000 Yeah.

00:02:33.000 How old are you?

00:02:34.000 26. Where are you from Merzli?

00:02:36.000 California.

00:02:37.000 Okay.

00:02:38.000 What part of California?

00:02:39.000 Pasadena.

00:02:40.000 Okay.

00:02:42.000 All right.

00:02:42.000 What do you do for work?

00:02:44.000 I have a clothing store.

00:02:46.000 It's called Shop Israel.

00:02:47.000 It's in here in Vegas.

00:02:48.000 Is that your merch right now?

00:02:49.000 Yes.

00:02:50.000 That's cool.

00:02:51.000 Representing all the time.

00:02:52.000 Okay.

00:02:52.000 What do you do for work?

00:02:53.000 Oh, no.

00:02:54.000 Sorry.

00:02:54.000 Excuse me.

00:02:54.000 Highest education level completed?

00:02:56.000 College.

00:02:57.000 All right.

00:02:57.000 Bachelor's degree?

00:02:58.000 No, just associates.

00:02:59.000 Associates?

00:03:00.000 Alright, what'd you get it in?

00:03:01.000 No, pause.

00:03:02.000 I dropped out after my first year of business.

00:03:05.000 Oh, you got an AOS. Alright, high school.

00:03:07.000 Alright, so high school.

00:03:09.000 And then, uh, relationship status for you?

00:03:11.000 Dating.

00:03:12.000 Okay, so single, right?

00:03:14.000 Dating.

00:03:14.000 Somebody?

00:03:15.000 One person.

00:03:16.000 Oh, okay, okay.

00:03:17.000 How long have I been together?

00:03:19.000 Um, been dating for about six months.

00:03:24.000 Okay.

00:03:24.000 How'd you guys meet?

00:03:25.000 Bumble.

00:03:26.000 Okay, interesting.

00:03:28.000 Was it after the new patch where the guy can message you now or was it still on the whole like where the girl has to message first?

00:03:36.000 I think it was the girl it was my first time using dating apps and I think it was I had to message first but I didn't know exactly what I was doing so I think either I messaged him or I responded to an inquiry.

00:03:50.000 Okay.

00:03:51.000 Because I know Bumble has switched some stuff around.

00:03:53.000 It used to be you match, but the girls message you. 0.99

00:03:56.000 Yeah, I heard about that, honestly.

00:03:59.000 I mean, dating on that app, I think that was the most easiest app for me to use just because I've heard different things about the other apps.

00:04:08.000 So I thought Bumble would be the most...

00:04:10.000 It definitely gives women the most latitude, for sure. 1.00

00:04:14.000 Well, it worked out for you, so there you go.

00:04:16.000 Yeah.

00:04:16.000 All right.

00:04:17.000 And then are your parents together?

00:04:20.000 No.

00:04:20.000 All right.

00:04:21.000 And then birth control for you?

00:04:23.000 No.

00:04:24.000 Okay.

00:04:24.000 Living life on the edge.

00:04:25.000 And then what's your ethnic background?

00:04:26.000 I'm black.

00:04:27.000 Okay.

00:04:28.000 African-American.

00:04:29.000 Okay.

00:04:29.000 One of us.

00:04:30.000 Are you Jewish or no?

00:04:31.000 No.

00:04:32.000 Oh, okay.

00:04:32.000 All right.

00:04:33.000 It's a unique name.

00:04:34.000 That's why.

00:04:34.000 What about you?

00:04:35.000 What's your name?

00:04:36.000 Crystal.

00:04:37.000 All right.

00:04:38.000 How old are you?

00:04:39.000 33. All right.

00:04:40.000 Where are you from, Hersley?

00:04:41.000 Born and raised in Vegas.

00:04:42.000 Okay.

00:04:43.000 What do you do for work?

00:04:44.000 I'm a sales and marketing director for Hookah Lounge.

00:04:48.000 Has Hookah exploded in popularity with the, you know, popularity of vapes?

00:04:57.000 I feel like it has, yeah.

00:04:59.000 It's been growing business?

00:05:02.000 Yes and no.

00:05:03.000 I feel like it's hard to keep the stamina of a hookah lounge consistently going.

00:05:12.000 Okay.

00:05:13.000 I don't know what it is, but within the last three to five years, there's been an explosion in vaping and hookah.

00:05:19.000 Yeah, girls love hookah. 1.00

00:05:20.000 I don't know why.

00:05:22.000 Especially Dominican girls. 1.00

00:05:24.000 What's wrong with y'all, man?

00:05:26.000 Okay, so highest education level completed?

00:05:29.000 11th grade.

00:05:30.000 Oh okay, so you said fuck high school even.

00:05:32.000 Yeah, well I had my oldest when I was 18 turning 19. Oh, gotcha.

00:05:37.000 Alright.

00:05:37.000 And then relationship status?

00:05:38.000 Single.

00:05:39.000 Alright.

00:05:39.000 Parents still together or?

00:05:41.000 Yes.

00:05:41.000 Okay.

00:05:42.000 And then birth control for you?

00:05:43.000 Yes.

00:05:44.000 Okay.

00:05:45.000 And then ethnic background?

00:05:46.000 Hispanic.

00:05:47.000 Mexican.

00:05:48.000 Okay.

00:05:48.000 Full?

00:05:49.000 Yep.

00:05:49.000 Okay.

00:05:50.000 I'm first generation in the States.

00:05:51.000 My mom's from Sonora.

00:05:52.000 My dad's in Guadalajara.

00:05:53.000 Okay.

00:05:54.000 Speak green and write flu in Spanish, baby. 0.97

00:05:56.000 I take the white privilege all day though.

00:05:57.000 Yeah.

00:05:58.000 But a lot of Mexican girls can come off Caucasian. 1.00

00:06:01.000 I think especially your son are Guadalajara.

00:06:04.000 My dad's from Guadalajara and my mom's from Sonora.

00:06:06.000 Okay.

00:06:06.000 Yeah, so my mom's very fair-skinned and my dad's very tan with green eyes.

00:06:10.000 Yeah.

00:06:10.000 Okay.

00:06:11.000 And then, what about you?

00:06:15.000 What's your name?

00:06:16.000 Vanity.

00:06:17.000 Vanity, alright.

00:06:19.000 That's my real name.

00:06:21.000 That's your real name?

00:06:22.000 Vanity.

00:06:22.000 Okay, alright.

00:06:23.000 How old are you?

00:06:24.000 30. Okay, where are you from originally?

00:06:26.000 San Francisco.

00:06:28.000 Oh, shit.

00:06:29.000 How long have you been in Vegas?

00:06:31.000 Oh, like nine years.

00:06:33.000 Damn.

00:06:34.000 When you left, was San Francisco as bad as it is now?

00:06:37.000 No, not at all.

00:06:38.000 No?

00:06:38.000 Yeah, it's fucking crazy, man.

00:06:40.000 Have you been back recently?

00:06:41.000 Yes.

00:06:43.000 What is the biggest change you would say?

00:06:45.000 It's completely different.

00:06:46.000 Like, even when you go out there, the complete vibe is different.

00:06:49.000 And they're implementing new rules.

00:06:50.000 So even for the homeless people, by 11 o'clock, you have to get up.

00:06:53.000 You can't just be laying down on the streets.

00:06:55.000 But it's not the same.

00:06:56.000 There was, like, street performers.

00:06:58.000 Like, the city was really live.

00:07:00.000 Now, it's, like, not even there.

00:07:02.000 Like, the art from it.

00:07:03.000 Yeah, the art's dead.

00:07:04.000 Everything is, like, different.

00:07:06.000 But in some places, it's still okay.

00:07:08.000 I was there for TwitchCon.

00:07:09.000 It was so weird.

00:07:11.000 Oh, you went to San Fran?

00:07:12.000 Yeah.

00:07:13.000 I thought it was San Diego.

00:07:15.000 Oh wait, my bad.

00:07:16.000 I don't know where it went.

00:07:18.000 I don't know where it went.

00:07:20.000 Holy!

00:07:21.000 Let me double check.

00:07:23.000 Let me double check.

00:07:24.000 I was going to say, I thought that was San Diego.

00:07:26.000 First you're not introduced to us, then you don't know where you go.

00:07:29.000 He has a slept, guys.

00:07:30.000 He's operating on no sleep, this guy.

00:07:32.000 It's San Diego.

00:07:33.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:07:36.000 Elon Musk tweeted something about homeless people choose to be homeless.

00:07:40.000 Apparently there's a bunch of homeless shelters there, but homeless people choose to just like Mess it up and get in fights.

00:07:46.000 It's like as if they don't want the help, almost.

00:07:48.000 But, I don't know, controversial tweet you made earlier today.

00:07:51.000 But, alright, what do you do for work?

00:07:53.000 I do sales operations.

00:07:55.000 Okay.

00:07:56.000 And then high education level completed?

00:07:58.000 Bachelor's.

00:07:59.000 Okay.

00:08:00.000 What'd you major in?

00:08:02.000 Business.

00:08:03.000 Where'd you get it from?

00:08:03.000 I started off with biology, and then I went to that, but San Jose State.

00:08:07.000 Okay.

00:08:10.000 Relationship status?

00:08:13.000 I am...

00:08:15.000 Complicated?

00:08:15.000 Yeah.

00:08:16.000 There we go.

00:08:16.000 Thank you.

00:08:17.000 I just knew it.

00:08:18.000 That long pause, I was like, yeah, complicated.

00:08:20.000 We'll end it with that.

00:08:20.000 We'll go to the next one now.

00:08:21.000 All right.

00:08:22.000 Well, I'll ask this one question then.

00:08:24.000 Who doesn't want to commit?

00:08:25.000 Is it him or you?

00:08:27.000 I wouldn't say either.

00:08:30.000 That's interesting.

00:08:31.000 Fire.

00:08:32.000 Baby daddy?

00:08:33.000 No.

00:08:34.000 Any kids?

00:08:36.000 Yes.

00:08:36.000 How many?

00:08:37.000 One.

00:08:38.000 Okay.

00:08:40.000 Is it with that guy?

00:08:41.000 No.

00:08:42.000 Okay.

00:08:42.000 All right.

00:08:43.000 All right.

00:08:44.000 Parents are together.

00:08:45.000 They're divorced, but remarried.

00:08:48.000 Oh, shit.

00:08:48.000 Okay, so they're together then.

00:08:50.000 They separated and got back together?

00:08:51.000 No, no, no.

00:08:52.000 They remarried with someone else.

00:08:53.000 Oh, okay, okay, okay.

00:08:56.000 This is a hell no.

00:08:57.000 I'm not getting it.

00:08:58.000 All right, and then birth control for you?

00:09:00.000 No.

00:09:01.000 Okay, and ethnic background is black?

00:09:03.000 Mm-hmm.

00:09:04.000 All right, cool.

00:09:06.000 All right, so we have the ladies introduced. 1.00

00:09:08.000 Go ahead, Freshers. 1.00

00:09:09.000 Yeah, so back to the beginning.

00:09:12.000 Dating itself in Miami is tough.

00:09:14.000 We all know it's tough around the States, but I want to hear your dating experience in Vegas itself.

00:09:18.000 How's it been for you?

00:09:19.000 Good, bad, ugly?

00:09:21.000 What's your stick on dating?

00:09:23.000 Let's start here.

00:09:24.000 I haven't really dated yet, kind of, so I think it's like, I don't know.

00:09:29.000 At 27?

00:09:30.000 Yeah, I was with my son's father until the end of like 2022. Okay.

00:09:36.000 Why'd you guys break up?

00:09:40.000 Just, it wasn't healthy.

00:09:43.000 But great, great dad, great person, you know?

00:09:47.000 Wasn't healthy.

00:09:48.000 Was it toxic?

00:09:49.000 Huh?

00:09:50.000 Was it toxic?

00:09:51.000 Yeah, it just wasn't healthy.

00:09:53.000 Yeah.

00:09:53.000 Okay.

00:09:55.000 Yeah, I guess toxic, I guess.

00:09:57.000 Yeah.

00:09:57.000 Were you guys like married or?

00:09:59.000 Engaged.

00:10:00.000 Okay.

00:10:01.000 Oh, shit.

00:10:01.000 And then you, did you break it off or who initiated the breakup?

00:10:05.000 Hmm.

00:10:08.000 Yeah, I guess it was kind of like both of us.

00:10:10.000 We were fighting, and then I was being stubborn, and then he walked out.

00:10:17.000 And then we split up for a while, and then he was like, just tell me you want me back in the house, baby, and I'll come home.

00:10:25.000 I'm like, no, bro, you could go to therapy and figure it out from there.

00:10:28.000 If not, then no, because I was realizing my son would grow up seeing what I grew up seeing.

00:10:34.000 I don't want that.

00:10:36.000 And they say statistically, actually, the kid grows up fine in separate households.

00:10:40.000 Because honestly, when there was infidelity, that's when I should have left.

00:10:43.000 But I stayed because also love and forgiveness, but my child.

00:10:49.000 Isn't it better with two parents, though?

00:10:51.000 Yes.

00:10:52.000 I still got two parents.

00:10:53.000 It's not healthy if you got two parents neck and neck in the house.

00:10:57.000 And he sees that.

00:10:59.000 Is it 50-50 split?

00:11:00.000 And I'm raising a son.

00:11:01.000 Yes.

00:11:02.000 And I'm grateful for that.

00:11:03.000 Is he white or black?

00:11:05.000 Hispanic.

00:11:06.000 Hispanic? 0.74

00:11:07.000 Okay.

00:11:08.000 So, yeah, because it's not common for guys to, like, end relationships.

00:11:10.000 So you're saying that he, like, walked out and he kind of ended it?

00:11:13.000 Or started the...

00:11:14.000 He initiated the breakup?

00:11:15.000 Or would you say you initiated it?

00:11:17.000 Okay, because he was irritating me.

00:11:18.000 And then I told him, like, don't talk to me right now.

00:11:20.000 And then he was just like, what?

00:11:22.000 I was like, I just not...

00:11:23.000 Like, happy with our relationship and, like, everything we've been through and the way you're treating me, that's not what I deserve.

00:11:30.000 You deserve better.

00:11:31.000 Yeah, I was setting boundaries.

00:11:32.000 Like, there was, you know, like, domestic and fidelity.

00:11:35.000 Like, a lot of shit.

00:11:36.000 Like, because he was from, like, he had a certain lifestyle.

00:11:39.000 And when we had a kid, it was like, you can't do both.

00:11:42.000 So it got to a certain point.

00:11:45.000 And then he was just like, well, then I'll just leave.

00:11:47.000 And I'm just like, Was he a high earner?

00:11:50.000 Is he like a high earner?

00:11:51.000 Makes a lot of money?

00:11:52.000 Yeah, but it don't matter.

00:11:54.000 I make money for both entrepreneurs.

00:11:56.000 So infidelity was your biggest thing?

00:11:59.000 Yeah, the fuck I gave you a baby and you're going to step out then? 1.00

00:12:03.000 You should have did that before the baby.

00:12:05.000 Because then we wouldn't have had a baby.

00:12:07.000 So your issue is the infidelity after having a kid?

00:12:11.000 Yeah, and domestic and then just drugs and stuff like that.

00:12:15.000 So he didn't want to leave the party life?

00:12:20.000 I mean, you told me.

00:12:21.000 Yeah.

00:12:21.000 Okay.

00:12:22.000 He's in sales and it's a lifestyle.

00:12:24.000 Like, it's just...

00:12:26.000 Yeah, I guess it's...

00:12:27.000 It's fast pace.

00:12:27.000 Yeah.

00:12:28.000 Okay.

00:12:29.000 Interesting.

00:12:29.000 But was he, like, doing, like, running around and dealing with women and stuff?

00:12:33.000 Like, did you guys have an open relationship or was it supposed to be monogamous?

00:12:35.000 It was monogamous.

00:12:36.000 Okay.

00:12:37.000 So it was supposed to be monogamous and then he didn't, like, continue to stay monogamous after you guys had the kid.

00:12:42.000 Or at least you found out later.

00:12:44.000 Yeah.

00:12:44.000 And it's insecurity.

00:12:45.000 He was a...

00:12:46.000 He just, like, we're young.

00:12:48.000 And then now you got to be a husband.

00:12:51.000 And then, like...

00:12:52.000 And then you got to provide.

00:12:53.000 And you stress and whatever and stuff like that.

00:12:56.000 And then I was young, too.

00:12:57.000 And very toxic.

00:12:59.000 Interesting.

00:12:59.000 All right.

00:13:00.000 And you said you guys were, like, together since, like, high school?

00:13:02.000 No.

00:13:03.000 Like, 18...

00:13:08.000 Right after high school.

00:13:11.000 It was funny because I did custom clothing.

00:13:16.000 I ran a kiosk in the mall and then he was one of the shoe cleaner guys.

00:13:22.000 So what have you learned from this whole interaction with this guy or your baby daddy that you would take forward now to your next relationship?

00:13:31.000 What have you learned?

00:13:35.000 Boundaries.

00:13:37.000 Boundaries?

00:13:38.000 Love myself first.

00:13:39.000 Okay.

00:13:40.000 That's it?

00:13:41.000 Yeah.

00:13:43.000 Alright.

00:13:44.000 Boundaries.

00:13:44.000 Love yourself first.

00:13:45.000 Love myself first and then just be as best as I can.

00:13:48.000 Put God first, honestly.

00:13:50.000 And what's the non-negotiable on your boundaries now?

00:13:54.000 The number one thing that's non-negotiable.

00:13:57.000 He has to be faithful, can't cheat, has to be a higher earner.

00:14:01.000 Just transparency.

00:14:01.000 I don't want honesty.

00:14:03.000 Transparency.

00:14:03.000 Dr. Brent said that.

00:14:04.000 So I was like, that was just right.

00:14:07.000 Because it's true.

00:14:08.000 For honesty, they got to get caught with something to tell the truth.

00:14:13.000 But if they're transparent and they tell you what it is from the beginning, you either say yes or no and move on.

00:14:18.000 That's all I want.

00:14:19.000 So would you be okay if a guy told you, hey, look, I like you, but I'm going to have other women? 1.00

00:14:24.000 Yeah, no, I don't do all that.

00:14:25.000 Because, like, my body, like, I don't want to get anything.

00:14:30.000 Well, you can see why guys wouldn't say it up front then.

00:14:33.000 Because you're going to just walk away.

00:14:34.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:14:36.000 Niggas are niggas. 1.00

00:14:37.000 Okay, what about you?

00:14:40.000 The question is, how's dating for you in Vegas, right?

00:14:42.000 Yeah, how's it been for you?

00:14:44.000 Dating has been good for me in Vegas.

00:14:47.000 I feel like I'm very particular.

00:14:50.000 How long have you been here?

00:14:51.000 Because you said you're from Pasadena, right?

00:14:52.000 I've been here for almost eight years.

00:14:54.000 Yes.

00:14:55.000 Seven years, eight years.

00:14:57.000 I have had an interesting dating experience, but I think everything has helped me grow and become the person I am today.

00:15:04.000 So I think that every person I met has helped me become who I am today.

00:15:09.000 I have a question for you.

00:15:10.000 Before you met your current guy right now, was it like flings off and on of people?

00:15:15.000 Or was it more like, okay, I have a guy now, breakup, guy now.

00:15:19.000 How was that timeline, if you don't mind me asking?

00:15:21.000 No.

00:15:23.000 I want to say I was in like… I've been engaged three times.

00:15:28.000 Three times?

00:15:30.000 Period.

00:15:31.000 What?

00:15:32.000 I've been engaged three times.

00:15:34.000 So I was in like serious relationships… They weren't like flings.

00:15:38.000 Let me get this straight.

00:15:41.000 You said no three times?

00:15:43.000 I've been engaged three times.

00:15:44.000 Three different niggas? 1.00

00:15:45.000 They weren't niggas, but yeah. 1.00

00:15:49.000 Wait, white boys? 0.67

00:15:51.000 One Mexican, two Mexican guys and one white guy.

00:15:54.000 What's your type?

00:15:56.000 Intelligence.

00:15:58.000 So not physical traits per se, but you have to mentally stimulate me.

00:16:04.000 Just be able to like go to deeper levels.

00:16:08.000 I gotta figure this out.

00:16:09.000 Why did you say no to these guys then?

00:16:13.000 Technically, she said yeah, she was engaged.

00:16:15.000 I did say yes, but I called it off.

00:16:19.000 Why did you call it off?

00:16:20.000 The first one I called off because I realized he would never grow with me, so I realized if I wanted to grow, I'd have to leave him behind.

00:16:27.000 Real quick, for each engagement, how long were you engaged for?

00:16:30.000 Well, the first guy I was engaged to was my high school sweetheart.

00:16:33.000 We were together for four years and engaged for one year.

00:16:36.000 Okay, and then the second?

00:16:38.000 Second guy I was with for about two years.

00:16:41.000 We were engaged within four months, five months.

00:16:44.000 Okay, so you guys were engaged for like six months.

00:16:47.000 We were engaged for a year and a half.

00:16:47.000 A year and a half.

00:16:48.000 Yeah, we were together for like two years.

00:16:51.000 And then what about the last guy?

00:16:52.000 The last guy, he asked me to marry him like three weeks.

00:16:57.000 Oh, shit.

00:17:00.000 She got that good.

00:17:02.000 The funny thing about that guy is we didn't have sex for a year, so he asked me to marry him.

00:17:08.000 He was Mormon, though.

00:17:10.000 What?

00:17:10.000 He wanted to get to it.

00:17:12.000 So how long were you guys actually engaged?

00:17:15.000 So he asked me to marry him three times, the last guy, but I said yes the first time and then I called it off because he was still actually married to somebody else.

00:17:23.000 So I called off the engagement because he gave me the ring and I kept the ring, but I was like, you need to figure out your stuff first.

00:17:31.000 So we were together.

00:17:31.000 So you knew he was married?

00:17:33.000 Yeah, I knew he was married.

00:17:35.000 But he was like separated.

00:17:36.000 He was like separated and married.

00:17:38.000 So how long were you guys engaged total time?

00:17:42.000 A year?

00:17:43.000 Technically we were together for like two and a half, three years.

00:17:47.000 Okay, but engaged for one of those years?

00:17:49.000 Two years?

00:17:50.000 It's complicated because I did say that I called off the engagement because he was still married.

00:17:55.000 So it took him about a year and a half to get officially divorced.

00:17:58.000 So let's call it cumulative time.

00:18:00.000 You guys engaged roughly a year.

00:18:02.000 Sure.

00:18:03.000 A year, two years.

00:18:04.000 Okay.

00:18:05.000 Yeah.

00:18:05.000 Basically our whole relationship almost that we were together for.

00:18:08.000 Yeah.

00:18:08.000 Fair.

00:18:09.000 Okay.

00:18:11.000 So you're considered like a saposexual then?

00:18:13.000 Yes.

00:18:14.000 Okay.

00:18:15.000 So color doesn't matter.

00:18:16.000 Just smartness.

00:18:17.000 Looks, color, age, none of it matters.

00:18:20.000 I honestly have dated.

00:18:23.000 You okay?

00:18:24.000 Okay.

00:18:25.000 Miss Bumble, got you. 0.58

00:18:27.000 No, not on Bumble.

00:18:28.000 Okay, this guy, this is the first time I've ever tried online dating the first time, this time.

00:18:35.000 But everyone else, I met in the wild, naturally.

00:18:38.000 Okay, let's say I'm in Vegas, and let's say I'm a girl, I want to meet a guy, where should I go?

00:18:44.000 I would say meet a girl where you would like to...

00:18:47.000 Let's say there's a girl that's coming to Vegas. 1.00

00:18:50.000 Where she should go to meet guys?

00:18:51.000 She would want to meet a guy that's in what she's looking for.

00:18:55.000 So if you're looking for a guy that's a clubby guy, go to a club.

00:18:59.000 If you're looking for a guy that's a gym rat, go to a gym.

00:19:02.000 If you're looking for a guy that's more established, has his shit together, he might be doing tennis practice.

00:19:08.000 He might be playing pickleball.

00:19:09.000 He might be going to a coffee shop in Summerlin.

00:19:13.000 It depends on the levels of the type of men you want to date.

00:19:17.000 You've got to be in those areas that he would frequent.

00:19:19.000 Okay, let's say she wants a smart guy. 1.00

00:19:22.000 Where does she go?

00:19:24.000 Online might be better for one of those because smart guys are typically shy and they're not the type of approach people.

00:19:30.000 So online, if you're looking for more of a nerdy, intelligent, that type of guy, I would say online because they're the type of people that aren't really like social.

00:19:41.000 And what have you learned from meeting your current guy now that's helped you move forward, I guess, with dating?

00:19:48.000 Just never settle.

00:19:49.000 You know, there's people that will come into your life for different reasons, different seasons.

00:19:53.000 They will teach you things.

00:19:55.000 You'll meet great people and you're going to have really great love with some people, but they're not going to be the one all the time.

00:20:01.000 So never settle?

00:20:03.000 Never settle, but obviously appreciate the people that you have while you're with them, but know that not everyone is for you forever.

00:20:10.000 Like, nothing is forever.

00:20:12.000 Enjoy the experience.

00:20:13.000 These three people that you got engaged with, how did you meet them in the wild?

00:20:15.000 You said you met them all in the wild.

00:20:17.000 Yeah, I met them.

00:20:18.000 Two of them I met at a club, and then one of them I met on playing Call of Duty.

00:20:25.000 Wait, you played Call of Duty?

00:20:27.000 That's pretty cool.

00:20:28.000 Let me guess, the Mormon guy was Call of Duty? 1.00

00:20:30.000 No.

00:20:32.000 My high school sweetheart, actually.

00:20:34.000 He lived two hours from me, and I met him on Call of Duty.

00:20:37.000 Are you even good at the game?

00:20:38.000 I could drop shot you so fast.

00:20:40.000 Oh! 0.60

00:20:42.000 We're going to put that to the test, okay?

00:20:44.000 Zombies, Call of Duty, block robbies.

00:20:46.000 Yeah, we're going to put it to the test.

00:20:47.000 Hold on.

00:20:48.000 Okay, if he's your high school sweetheart, that means you guys knew each other in high school.

00:20:52.000 He was four years older than me, and he was a senior and I was a freshman, and we met on Call of Duty my freshman year.

00:20:58.000 So he was graduating.

00:20:59.000 Okay.

00:21:00.000 When I was like my freshman year.

00:21:02.000 But you guys didn't know each other until you met in this like playing games?

00:21:07.000 Yeah.

00:21:07.000 No, he was at a completely different school.

00:21:09.000 So I say high school sweetheart because we were both in high school when we met, but technically we didn't go to the same high school.

00:21:14.000 Okay.

00:21:15.000 Because if you say that most people, they're going to assume you guys went to school together.

00:21:18.000 And in my head, I'm like, wait, what are the chances that you meet someone that went to your high school on a Call of Duty lobby?

00:21:23.000 Yeah.

00:21:23.000 He lived two hours away from me.

00:21:25.000 My mom drove me two hours to go meet him.

00:21:26.000 You guys were both high school age when you met.

00:21:28.000 That's what you mean.

00:21:29.000 Okay, last thing from me.

00:21:30.000 So I find it interesting you said never settle.

00:21:32.000 So your current guy, never settle?

00:21:36.000 I think communication is one of the most important things in relationships.

00:21:39.000 And if you thoroughly communicate how you feel and what you need with somebody, they can either adapt and try to meet your needs, compromise, or you have to accept them for what they are or not accept them and leave.

00:21:51.000 So there's different levels to like communicating that you have to like understand.

00:21:55.000 Someone can't read your brain.

00:21:57.000 Someone can't assume or expect something.

00:22:00.000 So if you want something to work, you have to communicate.

00:22:02.000 But sometimes you're not going to get the same answers that you kind of want out of that communication.

00:22:06.000 So from that communication, you can either realize, okay, we work well.

00:22:10.000 We can figure it out.

00:22:11.000 We can compromise.

00:22:12.000 We can fix this.

00:22:13.000 Or this is something that is like not something that we agree on.

00:22:17.000 So if it's not something you agree on, you either...

00:22:20.000 Move separate ways or find a compromise somehow.

00:22:24.000 But everything in relationships, whether it be like sexual, friendship, whatever, you have to communicate.

00:22:29.000 So that's what I learned.

00:22:30.000 Okay, interesting.

00:22:32.000 Thank you.

00:22:32.000 Real quick, we got PeachSlayer88 in the chat says, Thank you FNF for changing my life since 2021. I used to be a simp before that and now since I've been watching, I've had the mindset of chase dreams, not women.

00:22:43.000 I got signed on to agency WFNF. Shout out to you, bro.

00:22:48.000 Cool.

00:22:49.000 What about you?

00:22:51.000 Yeah, dating for you in Vegas.

00:22:52.000 How's it been?

00:22:54.000 I'm born and raised, so I have I have dated while I was in my toxic You know, so definitely unhealed.

00:23:03.000 What age was that?

00:23:06.000 Okay, so I didn't start healing actually until like my 30s.

00:23:11.000 So...

00:23:12.000 When did you start this toxic phase?

00:23:14.000 22, 23?

00:23:15.000 Start my toxic phase?

00:23:16.000 Yeah.

00:23:17.000 Oh, gosh.

00:23:18.000 So I come from a...

00:23:20.000 My dad was an alcoholic and my dad was constantly...

00:23:25.000 He was...

00:23:26.000 Abusive?

00:23:27.000 Abusive, yeah, to my mom.

00:23:29.000 So I grew up in a...

00:23:30.000 Kind of a violent home.

00:23:33.000 So my trauma started from very, very young.

00:23:36.000 Wow.

00:23:36.000 So from there, I mean, I started drinking in fifth grade, started smoking weed in fifth grade.

00:23:42.000 Oh, shit.

00:23:42.000 Yeah.

00:23:43.000 So I started numbing almost, you know, as soon as I learned how...

00:23:47.000 I didn't understand coping skills.

00:23:50.000 Well, I did numbing, you know, so that was my coping skills.

00:23:53.000 So I think it wasn't until four and a half years ago when I stopped drinking, when I truly started to...

00:24:00.000 Want to learn who I am and why I am the way that I am.

00:24:08.000 So for me, dating, I was with my kid's dad for almost eight years.

00:24:19.000 And then from there, that shit was toxic.

00:24:23.000 After that, I mean, we've been separated for almost two years now in February.

00:24:30.000 I've dated since then and I feel like because I've healed and I kind of know what my healthy boundaries are, I feel like I see a lot of people's unhealthy boundaries and where they...

00:24:44.000 So you've technically been single for the past two years then?

00:24:49.000 Yes.

00:24:50.000 Give us your biggest ick from a guy.

00:24:52.000 Biggest ick.

00:24:53.000 That you can see clearly now.

00:24:55.000 For me, it's like the bully.

00:25:00.000 I don't know when a guy's mean to a girl and that's his form of...

00:25:06.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:25:09.000 Men in this city are competitive with women. 0.78

00:25:13.000 It's just weird.

00:25:15.000 Yeah, they bully and they're mean and that's their way of flirting.

00:25:20.000 You mean they're assholes?

00:25:21.000 Yeah, they're assholes.

00:25:23.000 I actually just made a TikTok on that.

00:25:25.000 Damn.

00:25:26.000 Okay, so...

00:25:27.000 And this is something that you've noticed exclusively with men from Vegas is that they're mean and bully?

00:25:33.000 There's like a little like...

00:25:35.000 Would you say a majority?

00:25:38.000 It's just spread.

00:25:39.000 I feel like they don't really know how to talk and communicate.

00:25:42.000 That's how they flirt.

00:25:45.000 So they bully and they're kind of assholes.

00:25:48.000 Condescending?

00:25:49.000 They play the game.

00:25:50.000 Well, let me ask you this because you guys tend to agree on this.

00:25:53.000 These individuals that are mean or bully you, what are their professions?

00:25:58.000 Are they like successful guys?

00:26:00.000 Some.

00:26:01.000 Or they not?

00:26:03.000 Yeah, they got money.

00:26:04.000 Okay.

00:26:05.000 Alright, so you would agree with that sentiment that the guys that are typically meaner typically have money or are successful?

00:26:10.000 I feel like it doesn't really matter.

00:26:12.000 Like, whether they have money or not, I feel like there's a good chunk of them that are just...

00:26:16.000 Some of them, too, I guess.

00:26:17.000 Well, I'm trying to find out what's the main quality that all these men have where they're bullying and mean.

00:26:22.000 I think the quality...

00:26:23.000 They're insecure.

00:26:24.000 I think that's the quality.

00:26:25.000 I was going to say, it's the low self-esteem, but so they have to go by their ego and...

00:26:30.000 Okay.

00:26:30.000 You know, it's interesting.

00:26:31.000 Women always like to use this term, they're insecure. 1.00

00:26:33.000 Can you explain to me, like, what is it specifically that makes them insecure?

00:26:37.000 Can you guys give me an example?

00:26:38.000 They're in an uncomfortable situation that they don't know how to address and communicate properly.

00:26:44.000 So, for example, there'll be men that will be insecure about what their girlfriend is wearing.

00:26:49.000 However, that's something that you can communicate.

00:26:51.000 If your girlfriend is wearing these items when you met her, then you should not expect her to change her appearance based off of how you feel other people are approaching her.

00:27:01.000 So sometimes men will come off as very...

00:27:04.000 Like, what are you wearing?

00:27:07.000 Why are you looking like that?

00:27:09.000 Okay, so your example is clothing.

00:27:10.000 What about what the woman chooses? 0.97

00:27:12.000 What about you two?

00:27:13.000 What's your example of insecure?

00:27:16.000 It could also just be with them.

00:27:18.000 Just insecure with themselves.

00:27:23.000 There's a reason why I'm doing this because...

00:27:27.000 I'm just going to be very blunt here.

00:27:28.000 Women have a very bad habit of using a generalizing statement when I say, can you be specific about what you particularly mean here? 1.00

00:27:36.000 They can't really identify.

00:27:37.000 So she did with the clothing.

00:27:38.000 I feel like their insecurity comes from a lot of their childhood traumas that they haven't healed from.

00:27:44.000 Okay, that's the source.

00:27:45.000 But what is it that actually shows that they're insecure?

00:27:48.000 Give me an example.

00:27:49.000 I would say the way they communicate.

00:27:51.000 The way they raise their volume when they're talking to you and they try to call you names and demean you and make you feel little.

00:27:57.000 It's the mind games.

00:28:00.000 Condescending?

00:28:01.000 Yes.

00:28:02.000 When they're talking to you as if you're not a literal human and you're not the same person you were just five minutes ago.

00:28:08.000 I've met people that go from like, oh my god, I love you so much.

00:28:11.000 Are you fucking stupid?

00:28:12.000 How could you say that to someone you love?

00:28:14.000 How could you talk to someone you love and say, oh my god, I love you so much?

00:28:18.000 And with this thread that you're kind of going through, would it be fair to say that this is what kind of happens after the discussion about clothing?

00:28:25.000 No, it could happen in any, not just clothing, but I just can give little examples of like a relationship I was in where one moment he would be so in love with me and the next moment I would disappoint him in some way and he would talk to me in a way that was not nice.

00:28:40.000 And I felt it stemmed from me doing something that he didn't like.

00:28:44.000 What was it in particular that he didn't like that he spoke to you that way?

00:28:48.000 What did he do?

00:28:49.000 So, for example, I have a clothing store and I do a lot of marketing and networking with people.

00:28:54.000 One of the examples, he didn't like the way I communicated with my customers.

00:28:58.000 If I call them, hey, love, hey, babe, how are you?

00:29:01.000 Or if I lift those with a heart...

00:29:02.000 Sorry.

00:29:03.000 You're okay.

00:29:04.000 See, it's like insecurity.

00:29:06.000 He's like, I don't like the way that you call girls babe or love.

00:29:10.000 And I was like, why do you not like that?

00:29:12.000 He's like, because it makes it seem like you don't have that same value when you say that to me.

00:29:17.000 And I was like, if I say hey babe or hey love to a girl, I'm just saying it like as in a friendly, casual tone.

00:29:24.000 You're taking it as something more than that.

00:29:27.000 Just because I say I love you doesn't mean I can't tell people, oh my god, I love you so much.

00:29:31.000 But he takes it in a way that he feels insecure because he thinks my words have less value when I say that to him versus other people.

00:29:39.000 And it's just like code switching.

00:29:41.000 Sometimes you're talking to some people in a certain way and you can call your friends like, hey bitch, or whatever. 0.78

00:29:47.000 Yeah.

00:29:47.000 But you're not going to talk to a stranger and say, hey, bitch.

00:29:50.000 But in a sense, isn't that him also communicating that to you and saying that he's uncomfortable with that?

00:29:55.000 Yeah, I understood that.

00:29:56.000 He communicated and I stopped doing it.

00:29:58.000 But at the same time, I felt like I'm not being my genuine self.

00:30:02.000 And I can't be in a relationship where I can't be my genuine self.

00:30:06.000 So how did you react when he first said that?

00:30:08.000 What was your initial reaction?

00:30:11.000 My initial reaction was...

00:30:13.000 Confusion because I've always communicated with my customers.

00:30:18.000 I'm a very friendly, very open with all my customers, all my clients.

00:30:24.000 And just being in a way that I have to change the way I talk and communicate with them because the person that I love doesn't like that.

00:30:31.000 It felt like he was making me change who I was as a person.

00:30:37.000 Okay, so I see your perspectives.

00:30:40.000 What about you guys?

00:30:40.000 Do you guys have specific examples about...

00:30:43.000 Insecure.

00:30:45.000 I think for me, my experience has been, because I've been an entrepreneur, so, and I've gone, my, obviously, those, the type of men I go for are entrepreneurs as well.

00:30:55.000 So, I'm always on, we're always wanting, like, gold crushing.

00:30:59.000 And I've noticed when it, when I get a little bit too high on certain things.

00:31:03.000 Yeah, then it's a competition where it's like, bro, one day I'm gonna be less and you be more, like, you know, and then it gets into, like.

00:31:11.000 How's it a competition?

00:31:12.000 Can you give me an example?

00:31:15.000 Well, when I was directing and operating locations in Vegas for kiosks in the mall, and then I was in school, and I was running my household, and he was running kiosks and locations in the jewelry business, but he wasn't making as much money at the time, so it made him bitter, I feel like.

00:31:39.000 But see, I'm going with one person.

00:31:42.000 How did it make...

00:31:43.000 How did it make him bitter?

00:31:44.000 How did he show that he was bitter?

00:31:47.000 Well, just like, yeah, you're just sitting around the house.

00:31:52.000 He's rude.

00:31:53.000 I don't know how else to explain bitterness.

00:31:58.000 When somebody's bitter and they're rude and they're disrespectful.

00:32:02.000 And the issues that you're saying when you first met, he wasn't that way?

00:32:05.000 Of course, no.

00:32:06.000 Was he making the same amount of money when y'all met?

00:32:09.000 No.

00:32:10.000 He was making more?

00:32:12.000 No.

00:32:13.000 Less?

00:32:13.000 Yeah.

00:32:15.000 Well, I was making more, but then there's times where, you know, like this.

00:32:19.000 And I would notice, even if it wasn't the money, just like doing things, like to implement and get to the next level of things.

00:32:28.000 But he was just always like this or stagnant.

00:32:30.000 During those times when he was like that, I would notice a change in his characteristic.

00:32:35.000 Do you think it was him being bitter because he was making less money?

00:32:38.000 Or maybe that was a response to some of your behaviors?

00:32:41.000 Yeah.

00:32:43.000 Sometimes, okay.

00:32:44.000 I've thought about that too, so I think it could be a combination.

00:32:48.000 No, a combination for sure.

00:32:50.000 Okay.

00:32:50.000 Comes out.

00:32:51.000 Yeah, because...

00:32:53.000 No, of course.

00:32:54.000 Whenever you go into any relationship, it's what the person did to you and when you leave, you want to know what you could have done better for the next person, of course.

00:33:03.000 So I've reflected on that.

00:33:05.000 Yeah, because I find it interesting that you're attributing some of his hostility to his earnings versus is it really from his earnings if he was making generally the same amount of money when you met him or just your behaviors that annoyed him?

00:33:18.000 And then you go ahead and cope and say it's because you earn more money than him.

00:33:21.000 But it was like positive behaviors.

00:33:22.000 It was just kind of like, yo, we're not going to be...

00:33:24.000 Like, we have no time to just chill and fuck around.

00:33:27.000 Like, come on, let's get this.

00:33:28.000 And it's trying to be motivating, but I guess it's just pressure because...

00:33:32.000 I don't know.

00:33:33.000 Did he sell drugs?

00:33:34.000 No.

00:33:35.000 I mean, like, he was...

00:33:37.000 He did it.

00:33:38.000 Do you think it's a woman's place to tell a man to, you know... 1.00

00:33:42.000 Hey, let's get out there and work.

00:33:44.000 Do you think that's her place?

00:33:46.000 I feel like it's a masculine thing.

00:33:48.000 He should want to do that in general.

00:33:50.000 And that's for me.

00:33:50.000 My dad always told me never depend on a man.

00:33:52.000 So that's where I know I get my certain things from.

00:33:55.000 And that's always been a thing in my relationships.

00:33:58.000 Like I always, you know, and I don't ask for help and stuff like that.

00:34:02.000 But it's never been like, it's always just been uplifting though.

00:34:04.000 Like whatever you want to do, come on, let's do it.

00:34:06.000 Let's do it.

00:34:08.000 And then I still want to do whatever the fuck I want to do.

00:34:10.000 And then it's just like, I don't know.

00:34:13.000 It's big.

00:34:14.000 Let me ask you this.

00:34:15.000 Let's say you guys were in a relationship and he told you that you need to paint your nails a certain way, wear certain clothing, and he scrutinized everything that you wore and how you went out when you presented yourself.

00:34:24.000 Okay, I wasn't doing that with him.

00:34:25.000 No, but I'm saying, let's assume he did that to you.

00:34:27.000 Would that be annoying?

00:34:30.000 Yeah.

00:34:31.000 So like, if he told you how to be a woman, essentially, wouldn't you find it like- No, for me it was like, this was a project.

00:34:37.000 He was, you don't need to do drugs, take care of your body, do something healthy with your life.

00:34:43.000 So it's okay for you to nitpick him, but you would not like it if he did it to you?

00:34:47.000 I would love for him, too.

00:34:49.000 Because if it's something that's fucked up with me, like, if I'm, yeah, because this is my health.

00:34:54.000 I want to look good.

00:34:55.000 Like, I want to make sure, like, if I'm, like, I was just talking about this with a friend.

00:34:59.000 Like, if I'm overweight and you don't tell and I'm telling you or whatever and you have those friends that are like, no, girl, you still look fine, whatever.

00:35:06.000 I'm like, no, like, because I want to be the best version of myself.

00:35:09.000 Our bodies are temple.

00:35:11.000 I want a partner that holds me accountable.

00:35:12.000 If I have some shit that's stanky, clean it out.

00:35:16.000 And I'm going to do the same thing with him.

00:35:20.000 Interesting.

00:35:22.000 So many avenues there.

00:35:24.000 I'll just say this.

00:35:26.000 You seem like a very driven woman and you know what you want.

00:35:30.000 Which means you don't tolerate BS. But at the same time...

00:35:34.000 I tolerate a lot of fucking shit though.

00:35:37.000 At the same time, you could also be very demanding.

00:35:41.000 So that's what I just take from it.

00:35:43.000 Okay.

00:35:43.000 What about you?

00:35:45.000 Dating life?

00:35:46.000 How's it been for you?

00:35:47.000 Biggest life?

00:35:48.000 It's been okay.

00:35:49.000 I mean, I don't really date a lot out here.

00:35:52.000 When I have met someone with my current partner right now, we met through a friend.

00:35:56.000 And that's why it has been successful.

00:35:59.000 It wasn't like at a club or anything.

00:36:01.000 It was basically like a pairing.

00:36:03.000 Was it a referral?

00:36:05.000 Yeah.

00:36:05.000 Yes.

00:36:06.000 Referral period.

00:36:07.000 A good referral program.

00:36:08.000 Is it?

00:36:08.000 They say that's the best way too because they know you.

00:36:10.000 I'm confused.

00:36:11.000 So you're saying that this referral program was successful?

00:36:15.000 Yes.

00:36:16.000 So why is the relationship complicated right now?

00:36:18.000 Because it's live.

00:36:20.000 That's why.

00:36:21.000 It's what?

00:36:21.000 Because we're live right now.

00:36:22.000 That's why it's complicated.

00:36:26.000 Um, wait.

00:36:28.000 Yes.

00:36:29.000 I'm confused.

00:36:29.000 So on one end, you're saying the referral program was great.

00:36:32.000 Yes.

00:36:33.000 So wouldn't it make sense for you to say, yeah, the relationship is great while you're live right now versus saying it's complicated?

00:36:38.000 No, I mean, as far as like, when it comes to like the details, it's complicated because we're on, you know, other sides of the spectrum, but it's good.

00:36:48.000 Right person, still building.

00:36:50.000 Yeah, that's very cryptic.

00:36:52.000 Can you just clarify a little bit?

00:36:53.000 Because that doesn't make sense to me.

00:36:55.000 That's extremely cryptic and confusing.

00:36:57.000 So we met through a friend.

00:36:59.000 This was a successful program?

00:37:01.000 Yeah, and with that sense, it's been going good since.

00:37:03.000 And now we're just moving forward.

00:37:07.000 Okay, so is it really complicated at that point?

00:37:11.000 Not really.

00:37:12.000 Question.

00:37:14.000 Yo, what the hell, man?

00:37:16.000 You said you have a kid, right?

00:37:17.000 Yes, I do.

00:37:18.000 Is it hard dating with a kid, you think?

00:37:19.000 It is.

00:37:20.000 Nowadays?

00:37:21.000 Because he has to take you and the kid too.

00:37:23.000 Yes.

00:37:23.000 Is he serious about your kid like that?

00:37:25.000 Yes.

00:37:25.000 Okay.

00:37:27.000 Well, let me ask you this.

00:37:29.000 Do you feel like nowadays, most people are not cool with having to deal with a kid and their partner, you would say?

00:37:37.000 Thank you.

00:37:38.000 - People are not able to love anyone more than themselves.

00:37:41.000 When you're dealing with a woman with a kid, you have to understand like this is a two people thing.

00:37:45.000 And I don't agree that women should introduce their kids to men that they just meet, 'cause that happens a lot.

00:37:50.000 They'll introduce men to their kids within like two weeks, three weeks, two months. 0.98

00:37:54.000 But it takes more than that.

00:37:56.000 Like you have to make sure that you guys are compatible.

00:37:58.000 You have to make sure that they're not like creep.

00:38:00.000 You have to make sure there's a lot of things that come into it. - Yeah. - And then on the other side of the spectrum, there's men that are like, I wouldn't date a woman with a kid because I feel like this.

00:38:07.000 I feel like I'm this type of person.

00:38:09.000 But, I mean, if you're sitting here, you're 35, you're still single, you don't want to date a woman with a kid. 0.99

00:38:14.000 When in reality, women who are 27 plus usually do have kids. 1.00

00:38:19.000 But if you want to sit here and, you know, say certain things, I mean, you might be missing out.

00:38:23.000 But...

00:38:24.000 So three of you have children, right?

00:38:26.000 And are somewhat single or complicated.

00:38:30.000 So let me ask this.

00:38:31.000 Do you think a woman that has a child can have the same requirements and demands of a man that she would when she didn't have a kid?

00:38:39.000 Yes.

00:38:40.000 Yes?

00:38:41.000 Okay, so standards don't go down.

00:38:42.000 What about you?

00:38:42.000 Say again, what was the question?

00:38:43.000 A woman that has a kid, right? 0.99

00:38:46.000 Do you think that she can demand and require the same status of a man that she wanted prior to her having that child? 0.87

00:38:53.000 Yeah.

00:38:54.000 Okay, so she doesn't have to lower standards in your opinion. 0.56

00:38:57.000 I think the standard probably just gets a little bit higher once you have a child.

00:39:00.000 It's like you look for a certain type of man.

00:39:04.000 What about you?

00:39:05.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:39:06.000 I don't think it goes down.

00:39:10.000 I have three kids.

00:39:11.000 So you gotta think about you and your child now.

00:39:13.000 I have a lot of men that actually don't have kids that are still willing to date me.

00:39:18.000 But for me, I have morals, I have values, I have somewhat of a checklist that I need to make sure all of these things.

00:39:29.000 So if anything, you guys think the standards should stay at the same when you were single and childless?

00:39:34.000 Or if not, actually go up?

00:39:36.000 Yeah.

00:39:36.000 Well, I mean, because it's the safety of our kids.

00:39:39.000 Okay, now realistically speaking, do you think you qualify for that compared to other single women that are younger and don't have children? 1.00

00:39:45.000 No.

00:39:46.000 I mean, I don't think so.

00:39:48.000 Do you qualify?

00:39:50.000 Not you in particular, but do you think that women that have children qualify to the same standards as someone who doesn't have kids, realistically speaking?

00:39:57.000 No, it's different.

00:39:58.000 Spec is different.

00:40:00.000 How's it different?

00:40:01.000 Because you don't have to think about the other standard of your child.

00:40:05.000 Your child is like the piece of you, but your child is a whole different person that has their own different standards.

00:40:09.000 All right, well, let me ask you this.

00:40:10.000 So now you're thinking of like, now you have to be on a specific standard of a man where when you're single, it's kind of like...

00:40:16.000 Okay, hold on, hold on.

00:40:17.000 Let's make this a little bit more fun because obviously you guys are invested in this question because some of you guys are single moms. 0.99

00:40:22.000 How about this?

00:40:23.000 Let's say your son was going to get into a serious relationship.

00:40:26.000 Two options.

00:40:27.000 One girl, 21, no children.

00:40:29.000 Other girl, 31, two children.

00:40:31.000 Who would you tell him to get with?

00:40:32.000 Assuming everything else is equal, who would you prefer your son to get with?

00:40:37.000 Who would you suggest?

00:40:39.000 Let's say he's like 25, 27. What would you suggest?

00:40:44.000 Yeah, my son's sick, so I don't even think of whatever is the healthier option.

00:40:47.000 No, no.

00:40:48.000 Assuming all things are equal, Both girls are the same exact person essentially, but one is a little bit older with two children versus the other one has no children and is younger.

00:40:57.000 Who should you go with?

00:40:59.000 Start here.

00:41:01.000 The one that makes him a good man and with God.

00:41:06.000 Again, everything equal.

00:41:07.000 Everything equal?

00:41:08.000 Yes.

00:41:09.000 If you had to choose one.

00:41:10.000 Oh, well, I don't know.

00:41:11.000 The one my son wants to choose, not what I want to choose for him.

00:41:14.000 Okay.

00:41:14.000 What would you pick for your son?

00:41:15.000 The love being equal.

00:41:16.000 He loves it.

00:41:16.000 Like the same, same.

00:41:18.000 Everything's same.

00:41:18.000 But the only thing that's not the same is the one with kids or no kids.

00:41:22.000 And she's older.

00:41:23.000 And age.

00:41:24.000 What, and age?

00:41:25.000 And she's older too.

00:41:26.000 Yeah.

00:41:27.000 But then you can't say same, same.

00:41:29.000 Obviously, go.

00:41:32.000 So here's the thing.

00:41:33.000 I love that answer that you gave.

00:41:34.000 You're basically conceding that age and amount of children absolutely matters in your value.

00:41:38.000 And this is kind of what you guys are dancing around, which I find is very interesting during the course of this conversation.

00:41:44.000 That I think you guys inherently understand that your value is intimately tied to your age and if you have children or not when it comes to how men assess you.

00:41:52.000 It's just that you guys don't like admitting this.

00:41:54.000 Oh, okay.

00:41:54.000 I can agree with that.

00:41:55.000 I can tell from the stammering and the inability to answer this question.

00:41:58.000 No, I don't know.

00:42:01.000 So what is this vice versa?

00:42:02.000 What if it's a 21-year-old with a baby and a 31-year-old that has no kids?

00:42:07.000 A man, you mean?

00:42:08.000 No, with a woman. 0.90

00:42:09.000 If she's 31 and she has no kids and the girl is 21 with a kid and he's 25, as you say, then what is a good choice?

00:42:15.000 I would say they're almost equal.

00:42:18.000 Why?

00:42:19.000 Because the things that men value women for, basically youth and beauty, right?

00:42:24.000 That's going to be more apparent in the younger woman. 1.00

00:42:27.000 Though she has a kid that obviously knocks her down significantly, I would say she still holds somewhat similar value to the 31-year-old.

00:42:35.000 So we should date older men then?

00:42:37.000 No, I'm talking about, well, yes, that's typically women are attracted to, but men don't like to date older women is my basic premise here.

00:42:46.000 I mean, all of your boyfriends right now, complicated guy, is he older than you?

00:42:50.000 Mm-hmm.

00:42:52.000 So, I mean, clearly there's merit to what I'm saying.

00:42:54.000 See, it is true.

00:42:56.000 Okay, so you see someone, right?

00:42:58.000 You meet a girl and she looks young, for example.

00:43:00.000 She looks a certain age.

00:43:02.000 And she still doesn't have kids or whatever. 1.00

00:43:04.000 But she looks young and she tells you how old she is and she's older than you.

00:43:07.000 Would you automatically be like, no, I'm not going to date her because she's like three years older than me? 0.53

00:43:12.000 No, he'll be like, that's hot.

00:43:14.000 Is it going to be hot in 10 years?

00:43:16.000 Not him.

00:43:16.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:43:18.000 Looks are great, right?

00:43:19.000 Some girls are able to push the clock back, but in general, older women tend to have bad habits. 1.00

00:43:24.000 Like what?

00:43:25.000 That aren't reprogrammable.

00:43:26.000 Baggage.

00:43:27.000 A lot of trauma.

00:43:28.000 A lot of red flags.

00:43:32.000 Children from prior relationships.

00:43:34.000 Children are good.

00:43:35.000 See, for you.

00:43:36.000 Well, what if I say I don't date men with children and I have a child?

00:43:40.000 You don't date what?

00:43:41.000 I don't like to date men with children.

00:43:43.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:43:44.000 What if I say something like that, then...

00:43:46.000 I mean, you'd be 100% within your prerogative to say that.

00:43:50.000 But would I be wrong?

00:43:51.000 I don't think men would take offense if you said that.

00:43:55.000 But I find it interesting that women will absolutely take offense if a guy says, I don't date single moms. 1.00

00:43:59.000 I mean, I would argue that most women don't date guys with kids. 0.51

00:44:02.000 Yeah.

00:44:03.000 Or if they do, a lot of the times that guy brings a lot of value.

00:44:08.000 He makes a good amount of money or whatever.

00:44:10.000 Successful.

00:44:10.000 So women get a lot of value from being with a single father versus when a guy comes into a relationship with a single mom, at some point he's going to bear the brunt of raising that child.

00:44:18.000 I have a question.

00:44:19.000 You have no kids, right?

00:44:20.000 I have no kids.

00:44:21.000 Would you be a guy with kids?

00:44:22.000 I did.

00:44:24.000 Would you do it again?

00:44:25.000 Yes.

00:44:26.000 Really?

00:44:26.000 Yes.

00:44:27.000 They'll do it if they got money and they're successful.

00:44:29.000 That's the difference.

00:44:30.000 It's different when money is not.

00:44:32.000 Money is like the number one thing in relationships which causes turmoil. 0.99

00:44:37.000 So when you're not worried about money, that's a whole thing you can take off of the table that you don't have to worry about.

00:44:44.000 Kids are usually difficult when the mom and the dad don't get along or agree with each other.

00:44:52.000 So, when there's no mom in the picture, but there's kids, totally fine.

00:44:57.000 It's just a little difficult getting along with the kids and getting to know them.

00:45:00.000 When there is a mom in the picture still, and then there is kids, you have to be able to have a good relationship with the mom because the mom has control of the kids.

00:45:11.000 So, you would deal with baby mama drama?

00:45:14.000 I don't deal with baby mama drama, no.

00:45:17.000 But if I can be cordial with the mom of the kids... 0.54

00:45:20.000 You're hoping that you can be.

00:45:21.000 I was, but yeah.

00:45:23.000 If I'm not, then the relationship won't work.

00:45:26.000 I think for women, getting with a single father isn't as detrimental as a man getting with a single mother. 0.98

00:45:33.000 Because women aren't expected to come in and provide resources. 1.00

00:45:36.000 Yeah.

00:45:36.000 Exactly.

00:45:37.000 We have way more skin in the game when we get with single moms versus you guys getting in with a single dad. 0.97

00:45:43.000 The single dad more so needs us. 0.92

00:45:45.000 I was about to say.

00:45:46.000 I'm like, thank goodness.

00:45:49.000 It's the opposite.

00:45:51.000 They don't need you.

00:45:54.000 And you're not expected to provide resources, which is the biggest thing.

00:45:57.000 Versus as a single dad, at some point you're going to have to deal with that ugly reality that you're going to support this kid that isn't yours to some degree.

00:46:04.000 At some point.

00:46:06.000 So if a guy gets with a single mom, once that relationship becomes serious, she comes with the kid. 0.96

00:46:12.000 Versus you get with a single father, yeah, he's coming with the kids. 0.68

00:46:16.000 He's taking care of you and the kids.

00:46:18.000 He's never going to ask you for money for that kid nine or ten times.

00:46:21.000 Right?

00:46:21.000 So I think that's the biggest difference.

00:46:23.000 Women have way less skin in the game. 1.00

00:46:25.000 Maybe some emotional skin because you'll obviously develop a bond with that child.

00:46:28.000 But I would argue men rarely end relationships.

00:46:31.000 So is he really going to pull that child from you?

00:46:33.000 Probably not if you're a good woman. 1.00

00:46:35.000 But on the other hand, single moms end relationships all the time. 1.00

00:46:37.000 And then what ends up happening is not only do you have emotional investment with that kid as the man, now you have financial investment as well because you've spent money.

00:46:44.000 Because at some point, as a guy, you're expected to be the breadwinner to some degree, even if it's partial.

00:46:49.000 I mean, keeping it real, all things being equal in fear, if I was going to buy a car, use a new, I want to buy a new car.

00:46:57.000 You know?

00:46:57.000 Not use.

00:46:58.000 Same.

00:46:59.000 I understand exactly what you're saying.

00:47:00.000 And completely, it makes sense.

00:47:02.000 That's why I think as a woman my age, 26, single, no kids, I typically like dating people significantly older because they appreciate my youth more so than the people my age.

00:47:18.000 And they also have a lot more value and wisdom that I can learn from.

00:47:23.000 So that's why I'm typically attracted to people at least like 20 years older than me.

00:47:28.000 What's the oldest you ever dated?

00:47:30.000 58. He looks great.

00:47:35.000 I think that's good.

00:47:37.000 I think girls should date as old as they can. 1.00

00:47:40.000 Sorry about that.

00:47:41.000 Sorry about that.

00:47:42.000 Okay.

00:47:46.000 I can't even think about that right now.

00:47:48.000 Alright, let's move on.

00:47:49.000 Trust me, he's in better shape than you.

00:47:50.000 Like, you'd be surprised.

00:47:52.000 Let me ask this question.

00:47:54.000 The insecurity thing, real quick.

00:47:57.000 So, if you guys get a new job, right, would it be fair to say that when you get that new job, You have to adhere to their code of conduct, uniform policy, and kind of follow their rules of the company?

00:48:13.000 Yes.

00:48:15.000 So would you tell your boss that they're insecure for implementing this code of conduct or rules and regulations?

00:48:22.000 Not if you're agreeing to work for that job, no.

00:48:24.000 But then there's people that don't want to work for other people that set their own zone.

00:48:28.000 Okay, I'll pause.

00:48:30.000 But hold on, hold on.

00:48:31.000 How the boss talking to me.

00:48:32.000 Yeah, but the thing is that you will go ahead and accept these rules and regulations as a code of conduct for this job, right?

00:48:38.000 Change the way that you dress and even come in with a uniform for it, correct?

00:48:41.000 You have to.

00:48:42.000 So I find it interesting that you guys won't change your behavior for a man who could potentially be your husband.

00:48:47.000 We will.

00:48:48.000 You just were talking before that you had an issue with the way he told you to dress out in public and behavior.

00:48:54.000 I had an issue because he wasn't a provider.

00:48:57.000 He wasn't a provider.

00:48:58.000 He wasn't my husband.

00:49:00.000 Wait, wait.

00:49:00.000 Hold on.

00:49:00.000 You said you don't care about money.

00:49:02.000 Huh?

00:49:02.000 You said you don't care about money.

00:49:04.000 Who said that?

00:49:05.000 You said you care about being smart.

00:49:06.000 A man provides more than just money.

00:49:09.000 If you just think about provision...

00:49:10.000 Don't save her!

00:49:12.000 You just said earlier...

00:49:13.000 I'm a sapiosexual.

00:49:15.000 I'm attracted to people's brains and their intelligence.

00:49:17.000 They have to have something of themselves.

00:49:20.000 That is important.

00:49:21.000 You said earlier it's not important to you, but now it is.

00:49:24.000 It's always been important, but I've dated people with no money, and I've realized...

00:49:28.000 It's not that she didn't say it's not important, she just omitted it, though.

00:49:31.000 She didn't, like... 1.00

00:49:33.000 She put it as intelligence is the main prerequisite, but the reality is the ability to provide resources is...

00:49:39.000 So, I've dated guys that are significantly older than me that have been providers, and I have dated guys that are not providers, but they mentally stimulate me to become a better person.

00:49:49.000 So, the guy that I was having an issue with, the one that was telling me how to dress and what to do and blah, blah, blah, he wasn't a provider.

00:49:56.000 He wasn't paying my bills.

00:49:57.000 He wasn't taking care of things.

00:49:59.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:49:59.000 But here's the interesting thing.

00:50:01.000 So, you calling them insecure is 1,000% contingent on their ability to provide?

00:50:05.000 No.

00:50:06.000 This is what's showing right now.

00:50:08.000 No, because I was with a man that would let me be myself and be me completely and accepted me for who I was.

00:50:16.000 And...

00:50:17.000 I was totally okay with being with someone like that and hearing what he had to say and remedating and compromising and agreeing with what he felt in the moment was hurting him or addressing his feelings.

00:50:30.000 Was that guy a provider?

00:50:31.000 Yes.

00:50:32.000 So that proves my point.

00:50:33.000 That's what I'm trying to say.

00:50:34.000 You...

00:50:35.000 Because I find it interesting, right?

00:50:37.000 This is something that is exclusive to females. 1.00

00:50:41.000 Ugly guy comes and talks to you? 1.00

00:50:43.000 Oh, this guy's a fucking creep.

00:50:46.000 I take an attractive man, have him say the same exact thing to you.

00:50:48.000 Oh my god, he's so charming.

00:50:50.000 You guys don't really care about what's said or what's done.

00:50:53.000 You care about who's doing it, who's perpetrating it.

00:50:56.000 So you said, oh, this guy's insecure, right?

00:50:59.000 But realistically speaking, it's not that he's insecure.

00:51:02.000 It's that he's insecure and not providing for you.

00:51:05.000 Versus the guy that's providing for you, you're not going to call him insecure.

00:51:08.000 You're just going to say, oh, well, he's a provider.

00:51:11.000 So you see like the dilemma here where I'm coming from where women will attribute negative...

00:51:15.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:51:16.000 Women will attribute negative connotations or pejorative terms to an individual based on who they are versus their actions. 1.00

00:51:24.000 Does that make sense?

00:51:25.000 I get where you're coming from.

00:51:27.000 But I also would call the guy that I was dating a provider, that guy, that was amazing.

00:51:32.000 I would call him out on things that he would do too, but he would fix them instead of just argue with me about it.

00:51:37.000 He would take into consideration what I was saying.

00:51:40.000 Like, for example...

00:51:41.000 So now that guy you're saying was a provider too?

00:51:43.000 No, no, no.

00:51:45.000 No, no, no.

00:51:46.000 The guy that was a provider, I would communicate things that he would say, like, insecurities.

00:51:51.000 Like, if something came up, we would communicate with it to each other, and we would, like, understand, remedy, compromise.

00:51:59.000 Oh, okay.

00:52:00.000 So, hold on.

00:52:00.000 Just so I get this right.

00:52:02.000 Guy that you mentioned originally with insecurity, he had these issues with the way that you addressed and addressed customers, but he wasn't a provider, so therefore, you can't tell me shit.

00:52:11.000 Fair enough.

00:52:12.000 The other guy...

00:52:13.000 He also had issues.

00:52:14.000 He would tell you, you guys would communicate, but he was a provider and you were more receptive to hearing him out.

00:52:19.000 However, you would tell him your issues and he would listen to you.

00:52:23.000 Is that accurate?

00:52:24.000 We would vice versa tell each other's issues, yeah.

00:52:26.000 Yeah, but he wouldn't take your issues seriously and act on him like you did on his.

00:52:29.000 Fair?

00:52:30.000 No, he would.

00:52:30.000 He would take my issues seriously.

00:52:31.000 Oh, he would?

00:52:32.000 Okay.

00:52:32.000 Didn't you just say a second ago that he wouldn't?

00:52:34.000 Okay, sorry.

00:52:35.000 Let's call one guy A and one guy B. B guy was the Mormon guy. 0.74

00:52:39.000 He was the provider.

00:52:40.000 He was an amazing person.

00:52:41.000 Yep.

00:52:42.000 He was 26 years older than me.

00:52:46.000 Okay.

00:52:47.000 We would talk and communicate and understand each other.

00:52:49.000 I was very young and naive at the time.

00:52:51.000 Yeah.

00:52:51.000 But you were receptive to his things.

00:52:53.000 I was more receptive to him because I felt like he had good intentions.

00:52:56.000 Okay.

00:52:57.000 Was he receptive to you as you were to him?

00:52:58.000 Yes.

00:52:59.000 Okay, he was.

00:53:00.000 Mm-hmm.

00:53:01.000 Okay, so then what's the wrong...

00:53:02.000 That's B or A? The B is the bad guy.

00:53:05.000 Okay, go ahead.

00:53:07.000 I'm confused now.

00:53:08.000 Me too.

00:53:09.000 Dang, sorry.

00:53:10.000 Listen, I'm following.

00:53:10.000 Keep going.

00:53:11.000 Okay, A was the great guy.

00:53:13.000 The Mormon guy.

00:53:14.000 Yep.

00:53:15.000 Provider.

00:53:15.000 Yep.

00:53:16.000 Provider.

00:53:16.000 He was the guy that we were like extremely great business partners.

00:53:21.000 We worked really well together.

00:53:23.000 We would machine each other's minds together.

00:53:25.000 We would always...

00:53:27.000 But he wasn't a provider.

00:53:28.000 No, he wasn't.

00:53:29.000 He was very successful.

00:53:30.000 Okay.

00:53:31.000 He was very successful.

00:53:32.000 He had, you know, no worry about money or anything at all.

00:53:37.000 But he never...

00:53:38.000 Wait, so he had money, but he wasn't a provider?

00:53:40.000 No, he wasn't.

00:53:43.000 He was the type of person that would never go out his way to like try to like give me anything if it wasn't for like a special occasion or something like that.

00:53:52.000 Right.

00:53:52.000 He was like very like...

00:53:53.000 So I could break it down for you real quick.

00:53:56.000 One person I respect, one person didn't.

00:53:58.000 So when he says, told you something, you respect him.

00:54:00.000 So you listen to him and you obey pretty much.

00:54:02.000 The other guy, no respect.

00:54:04.000 Pretty much.

00:54:04.000 That's it.

00:54:05.000 Basically.

00:54:05.000 It was a respect thing.

00:54:06.000 Yeah.

00:54:06.000 So she didn't respect one guy and one guy she respected.

00:54:09.000 Have you ever thought to yourself the other guy had the capability of being a provider?

00:54:14.000 We talked about it.

00:54:17.000 One guy showed it, one guy just had it.

00:54:20.000 Have you ever thought to yourself maybe he wasn't a provider because of your disobedience?

00:54:25.000 No, because even when I was obedient and when I was reciprocating everything that he wanted, there was different...

00:54:32.000 And how long did you do that for?

00:54:33.000 It wasn't like a full year and a half of that.

00:54:36.000 I was like all into our relationship, like 100%.

00:54:39.000 And then little things started happening where I was just like, this is not my person.

00:54:45.000 And I kind of just fell out of love over time after realizing like, I think I was trying to make him something he wasn't.

00:54:55.000 And I thought he was someone I wasn't.

00:54:57.000 He was like this superhero, like amazing person I put on a pedestal.

00:55:01.000 And then really getting to know him over time, I was like, wow, this guy isn't my superhero.

00:55:05.000 He's a great person.

00:55:06.000 He's really smart and everything, but I'm not the love of his life.

00:55:10.000 Well, you said you had a conversation with him about him providing.

00:55:12.000 What did he say when you had that conversation?

00:55:14.000 Did he explain to you why he didn't want to provide?

00:55:18.000 Well, we dated for almost three and a half years.

00:55:21.000 We always kept our separate houses, separate finances, separate everything.

00:55:26.000 And I was like, why did we do this?

00:55:28.000 We were wasting so much money.

00:55:30.000 Why don't we have the same house?

00:55:34.000 What was his explanation every time?

00:55:36.000 He just said he wanted to wait until we got married, basically.

00:55:40.000 He didn't see you as important, that's all.

00:55:42.000 And he never proposed to you?

00:55:44.000 No.

00:55:46.000 You think it's really his problem then or yours?

00:55:49.000 Well, he was cheating on me.

00:55:50.000 I didn't ever bring that up.

00:55:52.000 He was cheating on me and he was very abusive domestically.

00:55:55.000 He was cheating on you the whole time? 0.95

00:55:59.000 That's the reason, yeah.

00:56:00.000 He basically used you, pretty much.

00:56:03.000 Yeah.

00:56:04.000 I was naive.

00:56:05.000 I was young.

00:56:06.000 Did he end up marrying another girl?

00:56:08.000 No.

00:56:09.000 He hasn't remarried.

00:56:10.000 He was with a girl before me for eight years and didn't marry her.

00:56:13.000 He's having fun right now.

00:56:14.000 That's it.

00:56:17.000 That's all it was.

00:56:18.000 I think the thing here that's really important is girls tend to blame the guy for not committing or not being a provider or whatever. 0.93

00:56:27.000 But what I've realized is girls never point the finger at themselves and be like, well, maybe something's wrong with me and he didn't want to commit to me.

00:56:34.000 It's always they're toxic, they're abusive, they're terrible.

00:56:37.000 But it's like I mean, we just went through this whole insecurity thing.

00:56:41.000 Like, I find it interesting that you guys wouldn't call your employer insecure for giving you a code of conduct.

00:56:46.000 But if your guy employed some level of boundary on the way you behave, that's considered insecure.

00:56:52.000 Well, it's just because when you go into the relationship, like how you meet that person, how you are when you meet that person is how they should accept you.

00:57:01.000 If you're trying to chain somebody after a month or so of dating them, that's not the person you want.

00:57:07.000 You're just trying to make them someone they're not.

00:57:10.000 Do you think most women are wife material in the West today? 1.00

00:57:14.000 I don't think wife material just... 1.00

00:57:16.000 No.

00:57:17.000 What about you?

00:57:18.000 I don't think husband material is the thing either.

00:57:20.000 No.

00:57:20.000 What about you?

00:57:21.000 No.

00:57:22.000 So hold on.

00:57:22.000 So if you guys agree with me that most women are not wife material in the United States as they come, wouldn't it be fair to say that men typically have to come in, get a girl, and make her a wife?

00:57:31.000 Same thing with a husband though. 0.55

00:57:32.000 Most women. 0.98

00:57:32.000 Really? 0.98

00:57:33.000 We literally just agreed on that.

00:57:35.000 Hold on.

00:57:36.000 How many of you want a man that's a leader? 0.96

00:57:38.000 Yes.

00:57:39.000 Yes.

00:57:39.000 Yeah.

00:57:40.000 So how the fuck are you going to teach him how to be a man?

00:57:43.000 I'm not.

00:57:44.000 I'm leaving.

00:57:44.000 And I'm finding someone that is.

00:57:46.000 So isn't it a leader's job to lead you to be the best woman that you can be?

00:57:50.000 Yes.

00:57:50.000 Okay, so I think it's completely healthy and practical, especially in 2024, to come in as a man and get rid of a lot of bad habits that modern women have.

00:57:58.000 However, it doesn't go the other way around where you can tell him what to do because he's a leader.

00:58:03.000 You might waste your time with a woman if you don't want to. 1.00

00:58:05.000 I guess men put women in brackets or in certain things, right?

00:58:09.000 So what are those things that they put them in?

00:58:11.000 After you know women for like, I don't know. 1.00

00:58:13.000 Well, yeah.

00:58:13.000 There's two boxes.

00:58:14.000 Very simple.

00:58:15.000 It's sex-only category or relationship.

00:58:17.000 And typically when a guy meets you, he's going to put you in one of these categories, right?

00:58:20.000 He might do it in a day.

00:58:21.000 He might do it in a few months.

00:58:22.000 But the point is that you're going to get put in one of these categories.

00:58:25.000 And what I would say is that it's your job to make sure you get put in the wife category by obeying him. 0.94

00:58:30.000 But the problem is that modern women, you know, Kind of like you guys, no offense, don't really respect male authority or masculinity in general. 0.94

00:58:36.000 And you guys think, oh, we're equal.

00:58:38.000 Like, I have the ability to tell a guy he's insecure for putting boundaries and standards on me.

00:58:42.000 And like with you earlier, you literally said, hey, I have boundaries.

00:58:45.000 Like, I don't want a guy to cheat on me.

00:58:46.000 And that's fine, I guess.

00:58:47.000 But whenever men implement boundaries, it's considered insecure, toxic, or some other We never came back to me.

00:58:55.000 We said the whole insecurity on like when there's the competition and they start talking to you and making you feel belittled instead of trying to uplift you.

00:59:03.000 Well, why are you competing with your men in an arena that you're not supposed to be competing?

00:59:06.000 There's no competition.

00:59:07.000 I'm just saying when you get with a woman that also is just like an entrepreneur or she has like dreams for herself.

00:59:13.000 Yeah, but do you think...

00:59:13.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:59:15.000 Do you think men care about that? 0.99

00:59:17.000 Realistically speaking, do you think men care about your personal success?

00:59:19.000 That's why...

00:59:21.000 No, men are supposed to lead. 0.98

00:59:22.000 We never got back to where, like...

00:59:25.000 I don't know.

00:59:25.000 I've met men that really, that's actually what they've been attracted to.

00:59:29.000 Let me be blunt about this.

00:59:30.000 We don't give a shit about your title, your education, or your career.

00:59:32.000 We don't at all.

00:59:33.000 We really don't give a fuck.

00:59:34.000 And...

00:59:35.000 Some guys might lie in the beginning and say, oh, that's so cool.

00:59:38.000 But they don't care.

00:59:39.000 Like, you can't, like, because girls love to flex their education and their status. 1.00

00:59:43.000 And it's like, okay, that's like me.

00:59:45.000 What if I told you I got 30 pairs of Jordans in my closet?

00:59:47.000 What would you say to that?

00:59:49.000 Amazing.

00:59:50.000 Do you care?

00:59:52.000 Come on, bro.

00:59:53.000 You care about it, then I should care about it.

00:59:56.000 Yeah, but do you actually?

00:59:57.000 I don't know.

00:59:58.000 Okay, that's how we feel about your career.

01:00:00.000 Anyway, what were you going to say?

01:00:00.000 Well, I was going to say, we never came back to the insecurity thing on my...

01:00:05.000 Like, when I dated, the insecurities came from my faults.

01:00:10.000 And that's like, we hit them, and then the topic just went.

01:00:14.000 But I know that...

01:00:16.000 Well, you didn't say that when I asked earlier.

01:00:17.000 Yeah.

01:00:18.000 We never got back to me.

01:00:19.000 You guys said, we're thinking, and you guys couldn't come up with anything.

01:00:21.000 No, well, she went, and then she went on her tangent on the A and B. No, because I literally asked twice.

01:00:26.000 Give me an example of how men are insecure, and neither of you can really come with an example.

01:00:29.000 She came with one, kind of, with the competing? 0.81

01:00:32.000 Well, when she kind of went, that's when I was like, oh, okay.

01:00:34.000 I was like, well, I know that because with my ex of eight years, I know that it came from the faults that I had in the relationship, and I had my indiscretion, my indiscretions, And that's where, like, the trust was broken.

01:00:48.000 And you really can't come back from that.

01:00:51.000 Okay, so how was he insecure then?

01:00:53.000 You said it was your insecurities that made him insecure.

01:00:57.000 Alright, because when you were agreeing earlier with them, you do understand that, like, when we were having a discussion before...

01:01:03.000 It was about men being insecure.

01:01:04.000 And you were in agreement with them that men are insecure.

01:01:07.000 And then I said, can you guys give me an example?

01:01:09.000 She gave a few with like talking to her man or talking to customers and the way she dresses. 1.00

01:01:15.000 She gave men want to compete and then you couldn't give me one. 1.00

01:01:19.000 And you're saying it was your insecurities?

01:01:22.000 No, not my insecurities.

01:01:24.000 I know that the insecurities came from me and from my mistakes.

01:01:29.000 And then the mistakes that I made...

01:01:32.000 I guess in his eyes, they were never really forgivable because he said he forgave me, but then it would end up being him taking things out on me and then him being mean and aggressive.

01:01:45.000 That's true.

01:01:46.000 It stems from a boundary of trust.

01:01:50.000 So you're not in agreement with them then that men are insecure?

01:01:54.000 I don't think all men are insecure.

01:01:56.000 I retract.

01:01:56.000 I think some men.

01:01:57.000 I've been with very secure men.

01:01:59.000 But you do see that the argument that I'm making, I don't think that's insecurity.

01:02:03.000 Like, telling a girl how to dress, how she communicates with customers, etc.

01:02:07.000 I look at that as nothing more than a code of conduct.

01:02:10.000 Like, look...

01:02:11.000 Let me kind of say this in a way that would make more sense.

01:02:15.000 When you get with a man, you basically become the employee. 0.76

01:02:17.000 Now, I know a lot of women don't like to hear this because you guys are all strong and independent after listening to Beyonce for the past 10 years.

01:02:22.000 I don't like Beyonce.

01:02:24.000 Whatever.

01:02:25.000 Okay, wait.

01:02:26.000 Lemonade, though.

01:02:27.000 Hold on.

01:02:27.000 This feminist rhetoric and mindset of the past 20 to 30 years that women have employed to kind of like substantiate their behaviors.

01:02:34.000 Oh, yeah, like I'm strong and independent.

01:02:35.000 I don't need a man. 0.99

01:02:36.000 I kind of have a man, you know, because I want to.

01:02:39.000 I think you guys forget that when you come into a relationship with a man, you're basically the employee.

01:02:43.000 He's supposed to be the employer, assuming he's a leader like you guys want.

01:02:46.000 So when you come in and deal with this guy, sure, you were one way when you met him, but then it's on you to change and get on his program so that you get wifed up.

01:02:55.000 But the problem is a lot of you women think, I'm going to continue to be the same person I was when I met him, and hopefully I'll get the ring. 0.99

01:03:01.000 And then next thing you know, two years later, he's not providing for you, or he doesn't want to commit because it's complicated, or you're in a relationship and he's getting annoyed by you, right, walking out the house.

01:03:10.000 And I don't think women understand that you have to change when you get with a guy, right? 0.98

01:03:14.000 If you want to move up the totem pole, say I hire you at a prestigious law firm.

01:03:16.000 Yeah, be submissive, make sure that I was doing all that stuff too.

01:03:20.000 Let's say I run a law firm.

01:03:24.000 Can I finish my point?

01:03:27.000 Let me finish my point here.

01:03:29.000 If you want to work at a prestigious law firm and you get hired, right?

01:03:33.000 You get hired at one point, right?

01:03:34.000 And you want to move up the ladder.

01:03:35.000 You want to become a partner.

01:03:36.000 Well, more duties are going to come to you.

01:03:38.000 More responsibilities are going to come to you.

01:03:40.000 You need to move up the ladder through your merit, right?

01:03:42.000 Same thing with women. 1.00

01:03:43.000 If a guy's very attractive and high status, a lot of people are applying for his law firm.

01:03:47.000 You have to show some level of competence and be an asset to that law firm to move up and eventually make partner.

01:03:53.000 The problem is that most women think, I'm going to continue to do what I've done, and I should make partner, and that's just not how it works. 0.98

01:03:58.000 That's why so many women perpetually stay single. 1.00

01:04:02.000 Because you guys only care about what you want, but you don't necessarily care about what the man wants.

01:04:05.000 Like, for example, with you, you've highlighted a lot of your personal careers and accolades.

01:04:09.000 We don't give a fuck about none of that.

01:04:14.000 It sounds bad, but it's true though. 0.97

01:04:18.000 What if I went on a bunch of first dates with girls and I just told them how handsome I was and how much time I spent getting ready?

01:04:24.000 They'd look at me like, what the fuck, dude?

01:04:25.000 Some people do that.

01:04:27.000 Yeah, but do women find these men attractive? 0.99

01:04:29.000 So all men that you're saying that they're able to be a leader and provide?

01:04:34.000 Do you see what I mean here when I say women use traits that men don't give a shit about to try to rationalize their behavior and why they deserve a guy versus like that's like me going on every single date and saying I spent two hours to get ready I got 30 pairs of Jordans and you know I did fashion week like I ran down the runway you'd be like the fuck okay that's good for you but how the fuck does this benefit me? 0.77

01:04:54.000 But every conversation is not like that.

01:04:56.000 You don't know who you're, you know, speaking to or going out with.

01:04:58.000 I mean, as a general idea, I see what you're saying, but that's not everyone.

01:05:02.000 No, but what I'm trying to say is in modern society, that's what women lead with is their careers and their titles and how much money they earn and their ability to be independent. 1.00

01:05:09.000 When they're talking to men who probably make less than them or something like that, they might want to...

01:05:12.000 Well, whose fault is that?

01:05:13.000 That's their fault.

01:05:14.000 They might want to boost themselves up.

01:05:15.000 I mean, that's probably all it is.

01:05:17.000 You were trying to say something from before?

01:05:19.000 Yeah, you were saying, like, the woman should, if they want to move up and get the ring, obviously, they have to change certain things. 1.00

01:05:29.000 And that still happens, too.

01:05:31.000 I feel like there's been women in situations where they do that, and then the man still can't be the provider or leader.

01:05:37.000 And I feel like providing in today's world, like, if you...

01:05:42.000 Well, who picks the man?

01:05:43.000 The woman.

01:05:44.000 No, the man.

01:05:44.000 The man picks the woman.

01:05:46.000 The man misses the rib.

01:05:48.000 The woman is the rib. 0.99

01:05:49.000 Bitch, don't chase. 1.00

01:05:50.000 That's where we get shit fucked up.

01:05:52.000 Wait?

01:05:53.000 Yeah.

01:05:53.000 Say that again?

01:05:54.000 The man is the one without the rib.

01:05:58.000 The woman is the rib. 0.99

01:05:59.000 The man is the one to search for what he's supposed to look for.

01:06:03.000 Yeah, but if you say no, it's no.

01:06:05.000 I can't force you.

01:06:10.000 Hold on.

01:06:11.000 Think about this.

01:06:11.000 She had her man, right?

01:06:13.000 That was not providing for three years.

01:06:14.000 She stayed.

01:06:16.000 She chose to stay.

01:06:17.000 That was her choice.

01:06:17.000 Yeah.

01:06:18.000 I think it's both choice.

01:06:21.000 Men and women.

01:06:22.000 Responsibility says that you made that choice.

01:06:25.000 To stay or leave.

01:06:26.000 Right?

01:06:27.000 Yes.

01:06:27.000 So ultimately, it's your choice.

01:06:29.000 And so, but a man too chooses to stay or not.

01:06:34.000 Yeah, but we don't end relationships. 0.71

01:06:35.000 It's women overwhelmingly that end relationships. 1.00

01:06:38.000 About 80% of relationships are ended by women.

01:06:41.000 Marriage.

01:06:41.000 Everything.

01:06:44.000 We make rational, irrational decisions when we're upset.

01:06:47.000 If you notice, every guy that you chose, pretty much, that you chose, you chose a guy.

01:06:52.000 To stay or to leave, you chose a guy.

01:06:54.000 Good or bad.

01:06:56.000 Didn't make a lot of money.

01:06:57.000 Wasn't successful.

01:06:58.000 Wasn't smart.

01:06:59.000 You chose a guy.

01:07:00.000 I mean, controversial take here.

01:07:01.000 It's true.

01:07:02.000 I think this is why arranged marriages have been a thing for so long because women suck at picking their own partners. 1.00

01:07:06.000 It's true.

01:07:07.000 It's better statistically, actually.

01:07:09.000 If I had a daughter, I'd be picking her guy. 0.99

01:07:11.000 Deadass.

01:07:12.000 Yeah.

01:07:12.000 Because she's not going to be that smart of the world itself.

01:07:14.000 It's dangerous out there.

01:07:16.000 Very dangerous, so.

01:07:16.000 No, I mean, it's like older, like, cultures.

01:07:20.000 That's what they do.

01:07:21.000 Also, we understand men very well.

01:07:24.000 So, like, if he's a piece of shit, he's pretending to be good to you right now.

01:07:28.000 We'll see it.

01:07:29.000 Do you have a kid?

01:07:31.000 No.

01:07:31.000 I have a dog.

01:07:32.000 Ruff.

01:07:35.000 Nice.

01:07:37.000 Well, the other example I want to give why I came to this, well, I've had this conclusion for a while, but if you guys noticed earlier, you guys, one of your complaints was that men are bullies and rude.

01:07:45.000 And then I asked, well, okay, what's one of the traits that these men have?

01:07:49.000 And you guys said that they're successful, right?

01:07:50.000 And they have money.

01:07:52.000 And what I've realized is that Women will typically pick assholes because they're emotionally satisfying. 1.00

01:07:57.000 They kind of get their emotions up and down.

01:07:59.000 And that's what women are in foreign relationship. 1.00

01:08:00.000 There's a reason why you guys read these stupid ass novels, you know, and, you know, love to imagine things in your head.

01:08:06.000 And one way to kind of curb that is you need a man, right? 1.00

01:08:09.000 That's rashly sound, aka your father, that has your best interests or heart to put you with a guy that he might be boring or square, but he'll probably be a good provider.

01:08:17.000 He'll be good to you.

01:08:18.000 He'll be boring, maybe missionary sex, but the relationship will last.

01:08:21.000 But the problem is that when women are, you know, allowed to select their own mate, you guys typically make Mm-hmm. 0.98

01:08:44.000 But I think dads need to take a more active role in like helping their daughters find men.

01:08:48.000 100%.

01:08:48.000 They do.

01:08:49.000 And we're not saying that it's only your fault because a lot of guys that are here are not worth anything in any way.

01:08:54.000 They're like not doing their jobs, not trying to progress any further.

01:08:57.000 So it's tough to find a good mate nowadays.

01:08:59.000 However, if you choose those bad people, you're going to get bad results.

01:09:03.000 That's what it is.

01:09:04.000 Yeah.

01:09:04.000 True.

01:09:05.000 So the bad boys you guys want are maybe tall, maybe looking.

01:09:09.000 They're fun, but like long term, probably not good for you.

01:09:13.000 I need the drugs.

01:09:15.000 The drugs are bad too.

01:09:19.000 Sometimes you have to experience those people that...

01:09:22.000 Really hurt you and really break you so you can appreciate the really amazing people that come into your life.

01:09:28.000 I disagree.

01:09:29.000 Because now you have trauma.

01:09:31.000 So the first guy that you met...

01:09:32.000 But you can heal from trauma.

01:09:34.000 You can learn from trauma.

01:09:35.000 It's always still there though.

01:09:36.000 It doesn't go away.

01:09:37.000 You can heal through it.

01:09:39.000 Like sometimes, you know, the heartbreak you felt when you were in high school.

01:09:42.000 Like, oh my god, you broke up with me.

01:09:44.000 You're so heartbroken.

01:09:46.000 But you didn't realize that that guy didn't treat you good and was an asshole, but you realize you take that experience and you meet a guy that's actually sweet to you and nice to you.

01:09:55.000 It makes you appreciate that sweet person, that nice person.

01:09:58.000 I'd argue it makes you not appreciate him even more.

01:10:01.000 Really?

01:10:02.000 I feel like I've been the complete opposite.

01:10:04.000 No, yeah.

01:10:05.000 I think you could appreciate the man more.

01:10:08.000 Because when you get another man to step in and show you things the other man didn't, you want to nurture him more.

01:10:14.000 So why is the phrase, nice men finish last, a big thing?

01:10:17.000 Why do nice guys chronically struggle to date and meet women?

01:10:21.000 Because women are always searching that bad boy that's... 1.00

01:10:25.000 I'm not.

01:10:26.000 I'm not.

01:10:26.000 You take his bad ass back home.

01:10:28.000 Yeah, that's what you guys say.

01:10:29.000 But like, realistically speaking.

01:10:32.000 Of my track record.

01:10:33.000 Yeah, like you guys say that.

01:10:35.000 Like, here's another thing, man.

01:10:36.000 That's really...

01:10:38.000 Okay, how do I say this?

01:10:41.000 Fuck it, I'm just gonna say it.

01:10:44.000 I don't treat women as equal. 1.00

01:10:45.000 I tweeted the other day.

01:10:47.000 It went viral.

01:10:47.000 I said you can either understand women or you can respect them, but you can't do both.

01:10:51.000 And the reason why I say that is I trust you guys to be women, which is act like children, not have any kind of accountability, make bad decisions, and then immediately infantilize yourself and try to get appeasement from society and feel sorry for you. 1.00

01:11:03.000 Versus like with men, when we make our mistakes, we typically have to eat it and we got to deal with consequences with you guys.

01:11:07.000 You can always say, oh, I didn't know I'm a victim.

01:11:09.000 And society will feel sorry for you.

01:11:11.000 And I look at it like, since women lack accountability in many different things, especially within relationships with men, I'm just not going to give you guys the authority in the first place. 1.00

01:11:22.000 I'm just going to go ahead and understand you guys move a certain way and behave a certain way, so I need to be the leader and just kind of guide you through everything.

01:11:28.000 So this is why I'm a big proponent.

01:11:29.000 When a guy meets a girl, you kind of got to let her know what the program is up front and let her know, take it or fucking leave it.

01:11:35.000 Because The other issue is that in modern society, I don't think a lot, like we discussed before, I don't think many women are wife material.

01:11:42.000 A lot of you guys have bad habits.

01:11:43.000 You talk back.

01:11:44.000 You don't respect male authority.

01:11:45.000 You think you're equal to your guy.

01:11:46.000 You think you could motivate him or whatever it may be or tell him what to do.

01:11:50.000 And with that said, I do see your perspective because a lot of guys are idiots.

01:11:54.000 But I think for men, they need to kind of step up and understand that women are the inferior gender and we need to step up and be leaders in every way because realistically speaking, you guys are emotional, erratic, and Make a lot of bad decisions.

01:12:07.000 And we have only ourselves to blame if we put you guys in a leadership role in the relationship and it goes to fucking shit.

01:12:12.000 If I give children dynamite and they blow their hands off, though the children bear a little bit of responsibility for blowing their hand off, it's ultimately my fault for giving them something that blew their hand off because I know better and I'm supposed to be the leader.

01:12:26.000 That's how I look at women. 1.00

01:12:27.000 And I know that sounds like a very fucked up way to look at it, but I think this is the way that it's worked for Most human history where men were in leadership roles and led women in relationships.

01:12:36.000 How do you think the men are leaders today's age?

01:12:40.000 They're not.

01:12:41.000 Which I understand some of your gripes.

01:12:43.000 Thank you.

01:12:44.000 That's why the women are overly masculine and the men are feminine as fuck. 0.97

01:12:49.000 It's weird.

01:12:50.000 I'm confused.

01:12:51.000 But at the same time, why are the women trying to date these feminine... 1.00

01:12:54.000 If you know that that's not what you're looking for, then...

01:12:57.000 That's why I'm not dating.

01:12:59.000 I've gone on dates.

01:13:01.000 She said earlier, project, right?

01:13:03.000 Or was it you?

01:13:03.000 Someone said project.

01:13:05.000 I think a lot of girls like that idea of making a project, which is actually very bad. 1.00

01:13:10.000 I can change him.

01:13:11.000 I can do this.

01:13:12.000 Not even change him.

01:13:13.000 He's already sick.

01:13:15.000 I think it's also interesting because the man that you're talking about, the man that's going to lead and provide and to guide his relationship and...

01:13:27.000 Lead them together as a couple.

01:13:31.000 You don't see many of that type of man.

01:13:34.000 Is it you don't see many of them?

01:13:35.000 Or a lot of women... 1.00

01:13:37.000 You're not choosing.

01:13:37.000 A lot of women don't have the...

01:13:39.000 How do I say this?

01:13:40.000 Their wherewithal to follow that guy.

01:13:43.000 No, because there's levels.

01:13:46.000 Like, I've dated a few men.

01:13:50.000 How many is a few?

01:13:51.000 Five.

01:13:52.000 Five, six.

01:13:54.000 Or maybe he didn't even want to give you that opportunity because he just saw something that he didn't like.

01:13:57.000 No, like my high school sweetheart.

01:13:59.000 Like he always just envisioned himself just like working in a kitchen, like working.

01:14:03.000 He never had higher goals for himself.

01:14:05.000 So I had to leave out relationships.

01:14:07.000 I knew that's not where I wanted to be.

01:14:09.000 So I dated someone of a higher caliber that had higher goals for themselves.

01:14:15.000 And I don't think...

01:14:18.000 Is that the guy that you're in a relationship with for three years, right?

01:14:19.000 The Mormon guy? 0.99

01:14:21.000 Not the Mormon. 1.00

01:14:21.000 The one that was providing for you, but he was cheating? 1.00

01:14:23.000 Yeah, that guy.

01:14:25.000 No, not that guy.

01:14:25.000 The Mormon guy I was with right after.

01:14:27.000 I was like 19 when I met him.

01:14:29.000 So he was this way that I'm explaining.

01:14:31.000 He told you what to do and everything.

01:14:32.000 He was very much a leader in our relationship, but I was also very young and naive at the time.

01:14:38.000 I wasn't ready to be...

01:14:40.000 So you had it and you fumbled the bag, basically?

01:14:43.000 No, he fumbled the bag.

01:14:44.000 Oh, how'd he fumble?

01:14:47.000 Well...

01:14:48.000 He went through like a little midlife crisis and he went to Thailand and went there for a year and did a lot of things in Thailand.

01:14:53.000 So, yeah.

01:14:54.000 Okay.

01:14:55.000 I love a woman who uses the term midlife crisis. 1.00

01:14:58.000 Can you explain to me what is a midlife crisis and what they do in Thailand specifically?

01:15:03.000 Well, he just had a midlife crisis because there were so many things happening at once.

01:15:08.000 Like with his divorce settlement, his nephew killed himself.

01:15:12.000 Okay.

01:15:13.000 Well, no, he left earth.

01:15:15.000 Yeah.

01:15:16.000 He left Earth.

01:15:17.000 Yeah, sorry.

01:15:20.000 His business was going down the drain and he had like all these settlements coming in.

01:15:25.000 He was just going through the most hardest time of his life.

01:15:29.000 And he just needed to escape and he left and went to Thailand for a year because he was running for like the lawyers and stuff.

01:15:36.000 And yeah, that's what he did.

01:15:39.000 And what did you do while he was going through this?

01:15:42.000 I was there with him when he was here in America, Vegas.

01:15:47.000 So you didn't go to Thailand with him?

01:15:48.000 No.

01:15:49.000 So he went there for a year and stayed there for a year?

01:15:51.000 He went there for a little bit longer than a year.

01:15:53.000 We broke up right before he left.

01:15:54.000 Oh.

01:15:55.000 So then he went for like a year and a half or so.

01:15:59.000 Okay, so you broke up with him when he was going through the worst time?

01:16:05.000 No, it was just like a period of like a year and a half to two years that he was going through all this stuff.

01:16:10.000 Were you nurturing him?

01:16:11.000 Our relationship was like two and a half years.

01:16:13.000 Were you nurturing him?

01:16:14.000 Yeah, but like me being 19 years old at the time...

01:16:17.000 So you weren't ready for the relationship?

01:16:19.000 I just didn't know how to...

01:16:22.000 We had four kids.

01:16:24.000 You didn't know how to nurture.

01:16:25.000 I love them, but his kids were molesting each other.

01:16:30.000 One of his older kids was molesting his younger kids.

01:16:33.000 And I have 13 siblings.

01:16:36.000 I'm the oldest.

01:16:37.000 I didn't want to be responsible for the things that his kids were doing around my siblings.

01:16:44.000 Because it just kind of directly, you put yourself in a situation like that, it's going to happen.

01:16:50.000 So I didn't really know what to do at that point.

01:16:52.000 I was waiting for that.

01:16:56.000 I just didn't know.

01:16:58.000 So you left him.

01:17:00.000 So you had that and then you left him because of these other things.

01:17:05.000 I didn't know what to do.

01:17:06.000 I was lost.

01:17:07.000 And then the other guy, you said he was cheating on you.

01:17:10.000 Yeah, but I don't think I should have stayed in that.

01:17:14.000 I already saw all the red flags.

01:17:15.000 I knew what was there.

01:17:16.000 I knew what was happening, but I was running from something else.

01:17:20.000 So that's why I stayed in that relationship so long because it was...

01:17:23.000 It seems to me like for a lot of you guys, cheating is a non-negotiable.

01:17:26.000 No, it wasn't a non-negotiable for me.

01:17:28.000 You said you broke up with him because of it.

01:17:31.000 Because of the way he did it.

01:17:32.000 Like, I wanted us to experience and explore together, but it was the hiding.

01:17:37.000 Like, the hiding and the manipulation.

01:17:39.000 The lies.

01:17:40.000 Okay, so what if you walked in and said, hey, baby, I want to fuck some other bitches. 1.00

01:17:43.000 What would you say to that?

01:17:44.000 Let's go do it.

01:17:45.000 Oh, you would?

01:17:46.000 Together.

01:17:47.000 No, no, no, but he would say, no, I don't want you there.

01:17:48.000 I'm just going to do it.

01:17:50.000 I'm like, okay, well, that's kind of weird because, like, we're in a relationship.

01:17:53.000 Like, if you want to go do that by yourself, then go do that by yourself.

01:17:56.000 But, like, I was always...

01:17:57.000 So you don't care about it being open.

01:17:59.000 You just want it to be...

01:18:00.000 Honest.

01:18:01.000 Involved.

01:18:01.000 I don't want to, like...

01:18:03.000 Okay, let's say you meet a guy now and he says, look, I want multiple women. 1.00

01:18:06.000 What would you say?

01:18:08.000 Now?

01:18:08.000 Yeah.

01:18:09.000 Like, if I was single?

01:18:10.000 I'm not single right now.

01:18:10.000 Yeah.

01:18:11.000 Let's say Bumble guy. 1.00

01:18:13.000 Tomorrow.

01:18:14.000 Hey, I just want to let you know I want to have other women. 0.94

01:18:16.000 What would you say?

01:18:18.000 If that's what he's into, I'm not close-minded to it.

01:18:23.000 I'm all for having fun and having experiences.

01:18:25.000 Yeah, but how would you react to my question?

01:18:27.000 Barely knowing him?

01:18:28.000 Yeah.

01:18:29.000 Well, it's been six months, right?

01:18:31.000 Oh, right now.

01:18:32.000 The guy that I'm with right now.

01:18:33.000 If he came up tomorrow and said, yeah, I want other chicks, what would you say? 1.00

01:18:36.000 I would say, let's go try it.

01:18:40.000 No, but he's like, I want to do it myself.

01:18:44.000 See, you know...

01:18:45.000 Whenever you talk...

01:18:46.000 You know what I hear?

01:18:47.000 I hear me, me, me, me.

01:18:49.000 That's all I hear.

01:18:50.000 I don't hear what he wants.

01:18:51.000 It's about what I want.

01:18:53.000 You don't do that?

01:18:53.000 Men that have multiple women is always ran low-key by one woman, though.

01:18:58.000 Yeah.

01:18:58.000 And it's the original.

01:18:59.000 And then all the other girls are just like the add-ons, and they agree to it. 0.68

01:19:03.000 So she's saying if she's going to get a man, obviously she's going to be the main one. 0.61

01:19:07.000 So you're saying that guys that have multiple women always have a main...

01:19:11.000 They usually do.

01:19:12.000 The one that knows everything.

01:19:13.000 That's true.

01:19:13.000 The ones that are functioning and like literally they all love each other and they can live in a household and it's actually like it works for them.

01:19:21.000 I've seen it work.

01:19:21.000 I've seen it.

01:19:22.000 So question, if you know and understand this.

01:19:24.000 It's true though. 0.96

01:19:25.000 If you know and understand this, why is a guy cheating on you?

01:19:29.000 Because you said before that's a non-negotiable.

01:19:31.000 For me, if there's a man that's okay with that, what is my boundary?

01:19:36.000 Not honesty, transparency.

01:19:39.000 Let me know that shit, what you need, what you like.

01:19:42.000 But you leave him.

01:19:44.000 But I'm saying if he's transparent with me and he tells me that from the beginning, okay, that's not something I'm cool with.

01:19:51.000 So the relationship won't go anywhere.

01:19:53.000 It would never even start.

01:19:54.000 Okay, so do you see now why guys lie to them?

01:19:59.000 If you're admitting that, like, I want transparency, but I will punish you for said transparency.

01:20:04.000 There's no punishment.

01:20:05.000 It's, hey, it's not going to work out.

01:20:07.000 But what if you accept it?

01:20:09.000 If they tell you at the beginning, hey, I talked to other people, you're like, okay, cool.

01:20:12.000 Well, I'm going to keep you right here like this.

01:20:14.000 That's just some weirdo shit because you have a headache getting with a girl that's like this, and then you cheat and do all that shit.

01:20:21.000 So let me get this straight.

01:20:22.000 When if you were a confident ass man, you're going to find bitches that are going to be okay with that. 1.00

01:20:27.000 And you're going to be happy.

01:20:29.000 But no, you want to lie and get with somebody that you know that doesn't match to the same standards and lied to a woman.

01:20:35.000 And then you get the crazy bitch out of you. 1.00

01:20:37.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:20:39.000 But you literally said, I want transparency.

01:20:43.000 Okay.

01:20:43.000 Gives you said transparency.

01:20:45.000 You leave him.

01:20:48.000 This is like dating.

01:20:49.000 You're getting to know a person.

01:20:51.000 We're not even together then.

01:20:53.000 We're not together.

01:20:54.000 This is why I say women lack logic. 1.00

01:20:56.000 You understand that if you want something and you disincentivize that something by giving them a negative reinforcement, they're not going to give you that something.

01:21:06.000 It shouldn't be.

01:21:06.000 Be negative when you're just getting to know somebody.

01:21:08.000 You just tell them what you like, what you want, what your dreams, how your life, you think, and you do the same thing when you're meeting somebody.

01:21:16.000 Are you...

01:21:16.000 I don't get it.

01:21:17.000 Okay, okay.

01:21:18.000 So I get what she's saying, but the problem is that like...

01:21:21.000 I'm not looking for any man either or whatever.

01:21:23.000 Okay, you don't want that, right?

01:21:24.000 You don't want multiple girls, but the problem is if he knows that you're going to leave, why would he tell you the truth? 0.96

01:21:31.000 You.

01:21:31.000 I'm saying when you're just getting to know somebody, why would you lie in the beginning anyways?

01:21:38.000 It just doesn't make sense.

01:21:38.000 Because he doesn't want you to leave.

01:21:39.000 You lie in the beginning.

01:21:40.000 You put makeup on.

01:21:41.000 Like, yo, look.

01:21:42.000 Okay, here's the thing.

01:21:43.000 Look, look.

01:21:44.000 See, if we're going to talk about lying, let's get one thing fucking out here.

01:21:48.000 Women are by far way more deceptive than men are. 1.00

01:21:51.000 You guys wear heels.

01:21:53.000 Tops to show your boobs in a certain way. 0.99

01:21:55.000 Wigs. 0.82

01:21:56.000 You guys wear wigs, makeup, eyeliner, all this shit.

01:21:59.000 Like, I would argue women are far more deceptive than men are when it comes to the things that make them attractive, right? 1.00

01:22:05.000 Like, as a guy, we typically have to have skin in the game.

01:22:08.000 We gotta pay for the first day, invite you, everything else like that.

01:22:11.000 In general, a lot of the things that you see about us are fairly congruent to some degree.

01:22:15.000 With you guys, everything about you guys, feminine mystique and deception. 1.00

01:22:19.000 So, if you guys want honesty and transparency, I would argue men are far more transparent than women in a multitude of different things, way more than you guys are.

01:22:27.000 Like, you know, women don't want you to know their body count. 1.00

01:22:29.000 We don't know when you guys are in heat.

01:22:30.000 We don't know if you've got makeup on or not.

01:22:31.000 You guys wear wigs.

01:22:32.000 You guys wear heels.

01:22:33.000 All these things that, you know, deceive men, but that's considered okay in society.

01:22:37.000 But if men don't want to disclose, hey, look, I maybe want to have other women because I'm going to get a negative consequence of saying that, you guys look at that as that's deceptive.

01:22:45.000 I think it also depends on the age of the women that are dating because I feel like women that are young, like in their mid-20s, you know, it's harder for men to be honest and open with you guys. 0.68

01:22:57.000 Okay, let me ask you this then.

01:22:58.000 Seems like a lot of you guys have high standards, right, with men.

01:23:02.000 Would that be fair?

01:23:03.000 Yeah, I guess.

01:23:04.000 Right, because you guys want a guy that's a leader and a provider. 0.72

01:23:07.000 Yeah?

01:23:09.000 I mean, I've dated people that aren't providers.

01:23:12.000 Yeah, but they're not here.

01:23:13.000 It doesn't matter if you date them, you're not with them anymore.

01:23:14.000 You want a guy that's a leader, for sure.

01:23:16.000 Yeah, so yeah, you've dated with these guys, but you're not with them, so that proves my point, that you want a leader or provider, right?

01:23:21.000 So, would it be fair to say that's hard to find?

01:23:24.000 I'm sorry?

01:23:24.000 Would it be fair to say that finding a leader and a provider and a guy that exhibits these traditional masculine qualities is hard to find in 2024?

01:23:32.000 Yes, yes.

01:23:36.000 They're out there.

01:23:37.000 It depends on where you are.

01:23:38.000 Is Mr. Complicated one of these guys?

01:23:40.000 So why is it complicated?

01:23:42.000 They're building and growing.

01:23:46.000 So does Mr. Complicated fulfill all your requirements?

01:23:50.000 Mm-hmm.

01:23:54.000 So if he fulfills all your requirements, I mean, this is what I kind of assumed earlier, is that he just doesn't want to commit.

01:24:02.000 That's not true.

01:24:04.000 Then what makes it complicated?

01:24:06.000 If he meets all your requirements and you like him, but you're saying that it's not that he doesn't want to commit, then what actually makes it complicated?

01:24:17.000 There's other things too.

01:24:18.000 I mean, as far as I don't mind distance and stuff like that, but there is like a I guess not longevity, but it's just the time we need to be perfect.

01:24:29.000 Are you worried?

01:24:31.000 Of course.

01:24:32.000 I'm a parent.

01:24:34.000 I'm still confused.

01:24:35.000 You're saying that he meets your higher requirements, but it's complicated.

01:24:38.000 Is it because of your kid?

01:24:39.000 Is he still dating somebody else?

01:24:41.000 So you're nervous about bringing him around everything so soon?

01:24:45.000 It's about merging everything together.

01:24:48.000 We've talked about it, stuff like that.

01:24:50.000 It's bringing everything together.

01:24:51.000 Like I said, I don't introduce my kids to people just off the bat.

01:24:54.000 I can date someone for two months, and if I don't feel like there's something there, guess what?

01:24:58.000 Then no.

01:24:59.000 And that's not the case here.

01:25:01.000 It's just everything all together needs to be set for me.

01:25:03.000 Remember, he asked you, does he meet all your requirements, including being with your kid?

01:25:07.000 So he doesn't meet that yet.

01:25:09.000 It's still like a process for me because it's like, like I said, I'm a single parent.

01:25:14.000 You don't just want to change your kids.

01:25:16.000 And that means moving, that means merging households, stuff like that.

01:25:19.000 And when you're coming from a, you know... 0.99

01:25:21.000 And how long have you been together?

01:25:23.000 We're talking.

01:25:25.000 A year?

01:25:26.000 Mm-hmm.

01:25:28.000 That's perfect because I always say I'm going to wait a year.

01:25:30.000 You sure it's a year?

01:25:32.000 Mm-hmm.

01:25:33.000 So let me ask you all this.

01:25:35.000 So it seems like you guys all have fairly high standards and It's hard to find a guy that has these things.

01:25:40.000 Knowing that this guy is rare, would you guys accept that he might cheat on you from time to time?

01:25:48.000 Would I accept it, honestly?

01:25:49.000 Yeah, would you accept it?

01:25:51.000 Honestly, yeah.

01:25:52.000 You would accept it?

01:25:52.000 I feel like all men cheat.

01:25:54.000 What about you?

01:25:54.000 Would you accept it?

01:25:56.000 I think, yeah, because people make mistakes.

01:25:58.000 It's not a mistake.

01:25:59.000 It's not a mistake.

01:26:01.000 You intentionally wanted to fuck somebody else.

01:26:04.000 I know, but I mean, also, shit happens.

01:26:07.000 I've been the one to make the mistake, you know?

01:26:10.000 I mean, was I fully there?

01:26:12.000 I mean, yeah, but I made the mistake and we did try to ride it out.

01:26:18.000 Did it work?

01:26:18.000 No, because ultimately I'm the one that broke the trust.

01:26:21.000 So, I mean, it's Yeah, I guess.

01:26:25.000 I mean, honestly speaking, I think if a woman cheats, it's a way bigger problem than when the man cheats.

01:26:30.000 I don't think women deserve second chances with infidelity whatsoever. 1.00

01:26:33.000 I think men do, but women don't. 1.00

01:26:35.000 Men, it's not emotional.

01:26:38.000 Okay, what about you?

01:26:40.000 Would you accept infidelity from your guy since you have these high standards?

01:26:42.000 You want to provide her and older? 1.00

01:26:45.000 You would accept it?

01:26:46.000 Yes.

01:26:47.000 Even if you're not involved?

01:26:49.000 Even if I'm not involved.

01:26:51.000 Okay, so your prerequisite is he tells you up front.

01:26:54.000 I just need to know up front what I'm expecting from this person.

01:26:59.000 But realistically speaking, knowing that Muslims punish men for telling the truth about this, wouldn't it be fair to say that he probably won't tell you and then you might catch him cheating and then if you do catch him cheating you guys have that conversation? 0.89

01:27:10.000 So it's the cheating.

01:27:11.000 If you want to be with other people, communicate.

01:27:13.000 You need something.

01:27:15.000 You're looking for something.

01:27:16.000 I just don't want you fucking all these people raw and bringing something back to me.

01:27:22.000 Be safe.

01:27:23.000 Be proactive about what you're doing.

01:27:26.000 Don't put me in a situation where my health is in danger because you weren't thinking about me.

01:27:32.000 I know that I can't fulfill every single need from you, from any person.

01:27:36.000 Not one single person can fulfill every need you have.

01:27:39.000 So I know that whether it's mental or physical, there's going to be other people in his life that are going to fulfill the needs that I can't.

01:27:47.000 I just want us to be able to be open about our desires and our wants and needs.

01:27:54.000 Well, knowing now that you have high standards, and most guys aren't going to be honest about this when they first meet you, are you more willing now to have that conversation like, look, bringing this up in the beginning, I'm okay with you having other women, but you need to practice safety.

01:28:07.000 Or would you not even bring that up?

01:28:08.000 You want him to bring it up?

01:28:09.000 I don't mind talking.

01:28:10.000 I talk about everything.

01:28:12.000 But also, I think it's important for him to realize that I have needs too.

01:28:19.000 So if you're not meeting my needs, then I'm going to have to...

01:28:22.000 Again, you know what I hear?

01:28:22.000 Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me.

01:28:25.000 Again, what is he on?

01:28:27.000 Do you even care?

01:28:28.000 Him, him, him.

01:28:29.000 No.

01:28:29.000 He can do what he wants to do.

01:28:30.000 You're getting what you want.

01:28:31.000 He can get what he wants.

01:28:32.000 He is getting what he wants.

01:28:34.000 How do you know?

01:28:35.000 He just brought up a scenario that he's going out and cheating on me.

01:28:39.000 Yeah, but okay.

01:28:41.000 He's out with other people.

01:28:42.000 Do you think one woman can sexually satisfy a man? 1.00

01:28:45.000 No.

01:28:46.000 You guys think, realistically speaking, yes or no?

01:28:49.000 I hope, but honestly, I don't know.

01:28:51.000 The answer's no.

01:28:51.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:28:52.000 Now let's switch it around.

01:28:53.000 Can one man sexually satisfy a woman emotionally and sexually?

01:28:56.000 No.

01:28:57.000 Yes.

01:28:58.000 Can we have dildos and vibrators? 1.00

01:29:00.000 No.

01:29:01.000 Assuming your girl's not a whore, can one man sexually satisfy a woman emotionally and everything? 0.99

01:29:05.000 I would argue, if anything, she probably wants to be sexually satisfied by one guy. 1.00

01:29:09.000 So she doesn't have to sleep around, right? 0.99

01:29:11.000 So that's the difference.

01:29:12.000 Because you said, hey, well, if he's going to get his needs met, I need my needs met.

01:29:15.000 And my argument to that is, no, you don't.

01:29:17.000 You're not going anywhere because one guy is enough for a woman. 1.00

01:29:20.000 I know that from their biology.

01:29:21.000 Women aren't designed to run around and get their needs met by other men. 1.00

01:29:25.000 That's only in the past 60, 70 years we've made that acceptable.

01:29:28.000 But, you know, typically that's Considered you're a whore if you do that. 1.00

01:29:32.000 Versus as a man, you're a whore maker. 1.00

01:29:35.000 But needs aren't just physical.

01:29:38.000 I would argue if you're getting your emotional needs met by another man, that's terrible too.

01:29:42.000 But it's not saying it's another man though.

01:29:44.000 I want to be honest, women shouldn't even really be dressing provocatively out in public without their man there.

01:29:49.000 I don't think y'all should have an Instagram where you're showing your body off.

01:29:52.000 I don't think you guys should be talking to other men.

01:29:53.000 I don't think you guys should be having male friends.

01:29:55.000 I think if feasible, you quit your job, right?

01:29:59.000 Because I don't think it's appropriate for a man to be able to dictate to my girlfriend where she has to be and what times at a job.

01:30:06.000 I think as a woman, it is your job to do absolutely everything in your power to remove all male contact.

01:30:12.000 And the reason why is because you guys don't actually initiate the mating process.

01:30:16.000 We do.

01:30:17.000 So, since you guys don't initiate the mating process, you guys need to... 0.99

01:30:22.000 Destroy anything that could initiate that process and that's your responsibility.

01:30:25.000 Because I think a woman's job is to be loyal and not be a slut. 1.00

01:30:28.000 My job is to provide and protect for you.

01:30:31.000 If I fuck some other bitches on the side, that's not really as bad. 1.00

01:30:33.000 I would argue if we had a scenario where we're outside and someone attacks you and I don't physically stand up and protect you, that is the worst act of betrayal versus me having sex with another woman. 0.57

01:30:44.000 Does that make sense?

01:30:45.000 Yes.

01:30:45.000 Because it's my duty to protect you.

01:30:47.000 That's literally what we're here for.

01:30:49.000 Versus it's your job to not be a whore. 1.00

01:30:53.000 Let's be honest here.

01:30:54.000 Women's only real commodity, let's be very painfully honest here, is your sexuality. 1.00

01:30:59.000 You guys provide very little to no value to men outside of sex.

01:31:03.000 No value to very little.

01:31:05.000 Yeah.

01:31:05.000 So why are you guys asking for emotional help?

01:31:07.000 Like, you're just saying if you're not meeting these needs emotionally, if there's no value besides sex, then...

01:31:11.000 Well, the sex is tied to that.

01:31:12.000 Well, hold on.

01:31:13.000 The sex is tied to that.

01:31:15.000 But what I'm trying to say is that the main reason men talk to and flirt and deal with women is for access to their sexuality.

01:31:25.000 Versus with you guys, you guys can get a bunch of benefits from us.

01:31:28.000 That's why...

01:31:29.000 Do any of you guys have guys in the friend zone?

01:31:31.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:31:32.000 Ask yourself, why do you have guys in a friend zone?

01:31:35.000 Yeah, so they provide maybe some masculine energy that's good.

01:31:43.000 Security.

01:31:43.000 They provide a little bit of security, maybe give you boyfriend energy.

01:31:46.000 Basically, you guys are able to reap all the benefits of being with a man without giving up what?

01:31:50.000 Your primary agency, which is what?

01:31:51.000 Sexuality, right?

01:31:52.000 Now, let me ask you, what does he get in return for being friends with you?

01:31:57.000 Fucking nothing.

01:31:59.000 I'm still friends with you, right?

01:32:01.000 No, still good energy and whatever I can do to tell my homie how to be a better person too.

01:32:07.000 That's how it is, but...

01:32:09.000 He can get that from a man.

01:32:10.000 Men are waiting.

01:32:12.000 Whether they're your best friends or not, they're always going to be waiting to get that one chance.

01:32:17.000 I know this sounds very terrible, but I'm being very honest here.

01:32:22.000 A woman's main commodity and agency is her sexuality. 1.00

01:32:26.000 This is why the makeup industry is a billion-dollar industry.

01:32:28.000 This is why plastic surgery is huge.

01:32:30.000 This is why women have a strong incentive to keep themselves looking good. 1.00

01:32:34.000 Right?

01:32:35.000 Because...

01:32:36.000 I know plenty of girls that are 19-year-old idiots that are with multi-millionaires on yachts hanging out. 1.00

01:32:41.000 But I don't know no fucking guys that are 18-year-old idiots on yachts that women are paying for. 0.96

01:32:46.000 So, a woman's main commodities are youth and are beauty. 1.00

01:32:49.000 I know women that be paying for... 1.00

01:32:51.000 How many?

01:32:53.000 A thousand.

01:32:54.000 Like...

01:32:54.000 You might not have clients.

01:32:56.000 Like, there's women that... 1.00

01:32:57.000 There's the same.

01:32:58.000 Men that...

01:32:59.000 Are they hot, though?

01:33:00.000 Huh?

01:33:00.000 They're probably old and ugly, right?

01:33:02.000 They're older.

01:33:03.000 There's your point.

01:33:03.000 That's my point.

01:33:04.000 Grandma.

01:33:05.000 And it's infrequent and rare.

01:33:06.000 Yeah, and usually the men that do that shit are usually, like, freaking certain way, too.

01:33:11.000 So...

01:33:12.000 It's a small...

01:33:12.000 That makes no sense.

01:33:14.000 Look, the point I'm trying to make is this.

01:33:17.000 When men hang out with women, we provide far more utility than just sexuality.

01:33:21.000 And this is proven because women typically have male friends. 0.86

01:33:24.000 But on the other hand, women don't really provide men much utility outside of sex, so they're stupid for being just friends. 0.98

01:33:30.000 Right?

01:33:31.000 So, with that said, since your main utility is sexuality, as your partner, it would be in your best interest as my girlfriend to ensure that that sexuality stays only to me.

01:33:45.000 Because I think you guys would feel some type of way that if I was out with some chick, Right?

01:33:50.000 And her bag got stolen.

01:33:51.000 And I got in a fist fight to defend her.

01:33:53.000 I break my fucking arm and now I can't work.

01:33:56.000 So I went ahead and put my life on the line for a random bitch. 1.00

01:34:00.000 Now my arm is broke.

01:34:01.000 I can't make money and provide for you.

01:34:04.000 That's betrayal.

01:34:05.000 From a male perspective.

01:34:07.000 Same thing.

01:34:07.000 You go fuck another guy.

01:34:09.000 That's treason.

01:34:10.000 That's the worst thing you can do as a female. 1.00

01:34:15.000 Because I think we kind of have this thing where male and female loyalty is the same, and I would argue it's not at all.

01:34:20.000 Well, yeah.

01:34:21.000 Cheating is just sorcery.

01:34:23.000 It's stupid.

01:34:24.000 But I get it.

01:34:25.000 The guys is like, it's just they think with their dick.

01:34:28.000 And women, it's more emotional, tight, and stuff like that. 1.00

01:34:31.000 Yeah, it's like, you know, why does someone who commits premeditated murder, why do they get life for the electric chair?

01:34:38.000 Because they thought it out.

01:34:39.000 Yeah, for us plan it out.

01:34:40.000 Yeah, guys, it just happens like, oh, she pretty.

01:34:43.000 Versus an idiot drinks and drives and hits someone accidentally, he gets 20 years.

01:34:46.000 The reason why is because the premeditation shows the state of mind.

01:34:50.000 And that's why I say like with women, it's literally, it's first degree murder with a guy. 1.00

01:34:55.000 It's like manslaughter.

01:34:56.000 Mm-hmm.

01:34:58.000 That's a good way to put it.

01:34:59.000 We got some chats here, actually.

01:35:01.000 All right, cool.

01:35:02.000 And ladies, think of questions for us. 0.96

01:35:03.000 We're dating.

01:35:04.000 If you have any questions at all, we can answer those questions.

01:35:06.000 Real quick, we got...

01:35:07.000 By the way, thank you, Angie, in the back for these superchats.

01:35:11.000 Oh, she's screenshotting something?

01:35:12.000 Yeah.

01:35:12.000 Shout out to Angie.

01:35:14.000 Ladies, don't get mad at expression fit. 1.00

01:35:16.000 They call it how it is.

01:35:17.000 Nothing personal.

01:35:18.000 By the way, the black girl with yellow wig, why don't you wear your hair? 1.00

01:35:23.000 I do.

01:35:24.000 HK. What's HK? That's his name.

01:35:28.000 He's asking why don't you wear your natural hair.

01:35:29.000 I do.

01:35:30.000 This is not on today.

01:35:32.000 Cool.

01:35:33.000 Can two times.

01:35:34.000 That's kind of a compliment.

01:35:35.000 Anytime someone says that, they're like, hey, you're not only wearing your natural hair.

01:35:40.000 Whatever.

01:35:41.000 Question, ladies. 0.99

01:35:42.000 If there was a feminine class or school that taught women how to be feminine, friendly, and modest, taught you how to cook, clean, and ultimately how to treat a man, would y'all take it? 0.80

01:35:51.000 Yeah.

01:35:52.000 Yeah?

01:35:53.000 You need it.

01:35:54.000 You too.

01:35:55.000 Alright.

01:35:57.000 Get some help.

01:35:59.000 I'm going off of certain experiences, but I was being the wife, making sure I would go and do all that stuff, come home, and still make sure...

01:36:10.000 For the wrong man.

01:36:11.000 Exactly.

01:36:13.000 So you're trying to tell me you needed that class to learn that shit.

01:36:17.000 I would still want to go and learn because, yeah, I want to be the most feminine in my energy.

01:36:21.000 Yeah, of course.

01:36:22.000 I think every woman should want to. 0.99

01:36:24.000 Which means you have to have a guy that leads and you need to be submissive in order to be in your feminine energy. 1.00

01:36:31.000 Yeah.

01:36:33.000 But what she's kind of overlooking is that...

01:36:34.000 You're saying, yo, you need the class.

01:36:36.000 We all need the fucking class.

01:36:37.000 No, they asked if we would take the class.

01:36:40.000 No, I'm going off of his comment, what he said earlier.

01:36:42.000 It's optional.

01:36:43.000 I'm just trying to be funny.

01:36:43.000 Yeah, you're just being extra.

01:36:45.000 Yeah, I have a thing with Chinese. 1.00

01:36:48.000 Chinese.

01:36:49.000 Well, Asians. 0.98

01:36:51.000 Zero Cool says, holy shit, the lighting is so good on this set, I can finally see what fresh looks like.

01:36:58.000 Fuck you, nigga. 1.00

01:36:59.000 What do you say?

01:37:00.000 No!

01:37:02.000 Holy shit!

01:37:04.000 Holy shit!

01:37:06.000 These girls are on a different planet. 0.99

01:37:07.000 They're cooks.

01:37:08.000 Yeah, brother.

01:37:09.000 We're all cooks here.

01:37:10.000 I always argue that these girls are actually super receptive. 1.00

01:37:13.000 They're cool.

01:37:13.000 Unlike the stupid Miami chicks.

01:37:15.000 Yeah.

01:37:16.000 Ryan Smith.

01:37:17.000 Fresh soul black, he look like a tar monster from Scooby-Doo. 1.00

01:37:21.000 See, they talk shit about us too, guys.

01:37:22.000 Nigga, who are you, bro? 1.00

01:37:24.000 You think Miami's worse than Vegas than the women? 1.00

01:37:27.000 I wouldn't say worse.

01:37:28.000 They picked a really good group of women. 1.00

01:37:30.000 Shout out to Shay and actually the guys that, just so I get it correctly here, Post Game Profits and Bull Content Studio for bringing this together with the girls.

01:37:42.000 So, shout out everyone here.

01:37:44.000 Yes, shout out KK Diamonds, period.

01:37:46.000 Love her.

01:37:47.000 I don't know who that is.

01:37:48.000 Let's move forward.

01:37:49.000 She's part of this whole thing.

01:37:50.000 Oh, she is? 0.68

01:37:51.000 Create chaos.

01:37:53.000 A doctor did research proving that the child's DNA stays in a mother for at least 20 years after birth, which means you're contaminated by foreign DNA after you have another man's baby in you.

01:38:04.000 Okay, that is...

01:38:06.000 I didn't know that.

01:38:07.000 That's where they already talked about used cars, new cars, and all that, so...

01:38:13.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:38:14.000 The car stuff, right?

01:38:16.000 I was biting you, right?

01:38:17.000 Yeah.

01:38:18.000 Just Crew Meek says, same software, different hardware.

01:38:22.000 That's a hidden message there.

01:38:23.000 there.

01:38:23.000 Yeah, I see what you mean.

01:38:24.000 HKN says, WFNF for making it happen.

01:38:26.000 Yes, we made it happen.

01:38:28.000 Demetrius routes Florida.

01:38:30.000 That's crazy, Myron.

01:38:30.000 You made the Drake Top 50 Opolis and Niggas have the nerve to say FNF fell off.

01:38:35.000 Have you heard about the Drake Opolis?

01:38:38.000 He made a list of all his enemies, and they showed it on 50 Cent's There's a bunch.

01:38:57.000 It's like Playboy Cardi, Myron Cainz, Kendrick Lamar.

01:39:01.000 It's because I made a tweet.

01:39:02.000 I said, I think you guys complained earlier, right?

01:39:04.000 That men aren't men anymore.

01:39:05.000 Yeah.

01:39:06.000 Which I actually agree with you guys.

01:39:08.000 That's why I do have some level of sensitivity to your guys' gripes with men.

01:39:11.000 Because I understand with your perspective on women because you're in that realm of like, but there's not a lot of like Men like that.

01:39:19.000 No, no.

01:39:19.000 I'm absolutely sensitive to it.

01:39:21.000 So here's the thing.

01:39:21.000 I don't know if you guys probably didn't watch our show because it's a male podcast.

01:39:24.000 We do a daytime show.

01:39:26.000 We actually teach guys how to become more attractive to kind of combat some of these problems.

01:39:29.000 So by day, I talk to men and tell them, stop being a fucking loser and fat.

01:39:33.000 And then by night, I'm telling the women, stop being a dumb hoe. 1.00

01:39:37.000 You know what I mean?

01:39:39.000 Save yourself for the right guy.

01:39:40.000 So I'm kind of doing both.

01:39:41.000 But the thing that tends to go viral a lot of times is when I talk to the women because women are rarely told the truth. 1.00

01:39:46.000 But intersexual dynamics versus men are every day.

01:39:49.000 So, um...

01:39:50.000 And men listen, women don't. 1.00

01:39:52.000 Yeah.

01:39:52.000 Yeah, it's actually, yeah.

01:39:53.000 Wow!

01:39:54.000 Yeah, it's actually very true.

01:39:56.000 That's why it's so entertaining when I tell women this shit, because they don't listen. 1.00

01:39:59.000 I like that.

01:40:00.000 See?

01:40:01.000 Men want to, like, grow and learn, and women, we want to kind of, but once you make it seem like you're belittling me, now I got to put on some, like, big boy pants and be like, no.

01:40:12.000 Listen up.

01:40:12.000 And to bring everything full circle, why I said that, that I'm sensitive to your issues, is directly from the criticism I gave Drake.

01:40:18.000 I basically said, since, like, 2007, when he got on the scene, He's been kind of pushing this air of being soft and in your feelings and being extremely sensitive and emotionally erratic, which obviously are feminine tendencies. 0.78

01:40:31.000 And then obviously a bunch of things come after that.

01:40:33.000 So though he's not the only proponent of this, I think he's a major one, especially since he's been dominating hip-hop the past 20 years, where he's made men significantly more sensitive.

01:40:43.000 I think the feminization of men began in the 60s and it's just been a progressive movement.

01:40:48.000 Downward trajectory, but I would say that within the last 20 years, Drake has absolutely been huge in the urban community for pushing this propaganda.

01:40:56.000 I think that's basically what the tweet I made.

01:40:58.000 We got millions of views and people got pissed off.

01:41:00.000 Drake is number one.

01:41:01.000 He's a GOAT. Yeah, he loves Drake.

01:41:04.000 Drake is a guy.

01:41:05.000 Now with that said, I also will say that he's going to go down in history.

01:41:07.000 He's one of the best musicians of all time.

01:41:10.000 His cultural impact versus his musical talent are two different things.

01:41:13.000 I have the ability to distinguish, but I do think that from a cultural perspective, he's been extremely damaging.

01:41:19.000 Listen to all the real niggas, we can relate to Drake. 1.00

01:41:21.000 Shall you, Drake?

01:41:22.000 Ladies, let's see your man had... 1.00

01:41:24.000 Just kidding.

01:41:25.000 I've seen that.

01:41:29.000 Have you seen him?

01:41:30.000 You're not funny.

01:41:31.000 The guy goes beta, Jesse, whatever.

01:41:35.000 That's so funny.

01:41:37.000 You want to play the violin?

01:41:38.000 Yeah, I'll play right now.

01:41:39.000 Ladies, let's say your man had 19k in debt but owned a Rolex and refused to sell it.

01:41:45.000 Would you leave him?

01:41:46.000 Anyhow, what the fuck is that name, nigga? 1.00

01:41:48.000 Holy, your parents must hate her.

01:41:50.000 Her parents must hate her.

01:41:51.000 What name?

01:41:53.000 You didn't say my name, bro.

01:41:54.000 But okay, cool.

01:41:55.000 That's fresh updates.

01:41:56.000 Yeah, because you're stupid.

01:41:58.000 You're in debt, but you have Rolex and you don't want to get out of debt for what?

01:42:01.000 I agree.

01:42:03.000 That was somebody that called me to the show.

01:42:04.000 That's why you have jewelry, I feel like, too.

01:42:07.000 You know?

01:42:07.000 That's your assets.

01:42:09.000 See, she knows.

01:42:10.000 But he didn't know.

01:42:11.000 The reason why, a guy called into our show, and he had, like, 20K in debt.

01:42:15.000 And, you know, he had been balling before, but I guess his business was doing as well.

01:42:18.000 And he had a Rolex.

01:42:20.000 And we told him, look, bro, you got that Rolex.

01:42:22.000 Like, you need to pay that debt off and, like, get a job immediately.

01:42:24.000 And then get your money back and go get another Rolex.

01:42:27.000 Because we have a call-in show where people can ask for help.

01:42:29.000 Yeah.

01:42:29.000 And, you know, call and ask questions.

01:42:30.000 And he actually put him in touch with one of our watch guys that said, hey, I'll buy it back from him for 20K. Dude, never fucking contact me.

01:42:38.000 It went viral.

01:42:39.000 See, we add value to guys when need be, but he didn't want to take it.

01:42:43.000 Dude's an idiot, man.

01:42:45.000 Dude's like that is what you can't be with.

01:42:47.000 See, and he had money, though, at one point, and he wasn't a high-value man.

01:42:50.000 Obviously, the way just his critical thinking.

01:42:53.000 He blew it.

01:42:54.000 I don't know what he was doing, but he basically blew it.

01:42:56.000 I think he was scamming, to be honest with you.

01:42:59.000 Or the watch might not be real.

01:43:00.000 Who knows?

01:43:01.000 Create Chaos says, Ladies, would you rather focus on your career Then try to have a family or focus on a family then have a career? 1.00

01:43:08.000 I guess we could start here.

01:43:10.000 Would you rather focus on your career then have a family or put family first then a career?

01:43:14.000 If you're able to focus on your career first and you don't have children or a partner, you're just completely single, not dating anything, you don't really have a choice but to focus on your career.

01:43:23.000 Now, if you're with someone and you guys are stable and it's like the right person and things like that, then, you know, and he has his career, then that gives you the opportunity to focus on your family and do stuff like that.

01:43:32.000 So what do you choose?

01:43:35.000 What I choose prior or what I already did?

01:43:41.000 I feel like going to do the normal things first until you find your partner.

01:43:46.000 So choose your career until you find your partner.

01:43:48.000 Then you can stop doing what you're doing.

01:43:49.000 Like you were saying, you can stop working at that point after you meet a partner.

01:43:53.000 You're not just going to stop doing everything and just sit there and do nothing.

01:43:56.000 Okay.

01:43:57.000 You guys still take that time to better yourself.

01:43:59.000 What about you?

01:44:00.000 For me, I have three kids.

01:44:02.000 So, I mean, obviously, I have to put my kids first.

01:44:05.000 I have two sisters that are 19 and 20, and I tell them to focus on their career and then establish yourself before starting a family or before picking a man that you decide.

01:44:18.000 And even if you do pick a man that has a good career, like right now my sister's dating somebody that just enlisted in the Army, Great.

01:44:27.000 His relationships never work.

01:44:28.000 She bought a cheap.

01:44:30.000 He's cooked.

01:44:31.000 And she just moved out with him.

01:44:34.000 And I'm like, you know what?

01:44:35.000 I get it.

01:44:36.000 She wants that free insurance, man. 1.00

01:44:39.000 She'll live in the barracks. 0.61

01:44:42.000 We haven't got them yet.

01:44:44.000 So, knock on wood. 0.90

01:44:45.000 But, you know, I just told her, I was like, look, I was like, just don't plan on having kids.

01:44:50.000 Just don't make the same mistakes that I made in not protecting yourself.

01:44:53.000 She's like, the first thing I did was I got on birth control, like, before he even came back.

01:44:57.000 And I'm like, okay, like, you know.

01:44:58.000 How many baby daddies do you have? 1.00

01:45:00.000 I have two.

01:45:01.000 So, I had my oldest when I was 18 turning 19. And then...

01:45:06.000 That dad wasn't the best person to choose.

01:45:10.000 But then I met my ex, who I was with for a long time, for eight years.

01:45:17.000 He's been stepdad to my son since he was four.

01:45:20.000 And we got engaged and pregnant within four months.

01:45:24.000 Wow.

01:45:24.000 Yeah, and then we were together for almost eight years.

01:45:26.000 Where's that guy?

01:45:27.000 He's the one I cheated on.

01:45:30.000 No good deed goes unpunished, man.

01:45:33.000 Well, see, hold on, hold on.

01:45:34.000 He bought a used car.

01:45:37.000 Well, see, the thing was that technically...

01:45:40.000 Okay, so let me ask you this.

01:45:42.000 He moved out and started using heroin and relapse.

01:45:47.000 He moved out of the house and I slept with somebody when he was moved out.

01:45:51.000 So is that me cheating?

01:45:52.000 Is it cheating?

01:45:53.000 Were you guys broken up?

01:45:54.000 We were broken up.

01:45:55.000 Oh.

01:45:56.000 But he said that I cheated.

01:45:59.000 And then his feelings are hurt now.

01:46:00.000 And then we tried to fix it, but then he said that I... Hold on, let me get the timeline here.

01:46:04.000 So...

01:46:05.000 This guy comes in, raises your child for four years old.

01:46:09.000 You guys have a kid together as well?

01:46:10.000 Yes.

01:46:11.000 How long were you guys together until he left?

01:46:14.000 He moved out when Fallon was like nine months.

01:46:17.000 Okay, so less than a year later.

01:46:18.000 Yeah.

01:46:18.000 He basically leaves.

01:46:20.000 Leaves, relapses.

01:46:21.000 When he left, did he say, fuck you, bitch, I'm out? 1.00

01:46:25.000 He moved out, got a whole other place, but then kept coming.

01:46:29.000 He wouldn't tell me that he relapsed because that was the one thing I told him.

01:46:33.000 My oldest son's dad, he chose heroin over us.

01:46:38.000 And I told him that that was one thing that I will not, like, I can't put up with that.

01:46:41.000 I can't deal with that heartbreak again.

01:46:43.000 Do not, like, because he was a previous heroin user.

01:46:46.000 So were you guys broken up when you left the house?

01:46:48.000 Yes.

01:46:49.000 Okay.

01:46:49.000 I wouldn't, I mean, though it is fucked up in an act of betrayal, I wouldn't say formally it's cheating if he abandoned the family to go do drugs.

01:46:57.000 That's what I said.

01:46:58.000 But he said that I cheated.

01:46:59.000 But I'd like to hear his side too.

01:47:01.000 Wait, he was an ex-heroin addict?

01:47:04.000 Yeah.

01:47:05.000 And you chose him as your baby daddy?

01:47:06.000 Well, I'm an ex-heroin addict also.

01:47:09.000 Y'all met an AA or some shit?

01:47:10.000 No.

01:47:11.000 So we were both sober at the time.

01:47:13.000 I've been sober from heroin for 13 years.

01:47:15.000 See, when you buy a used car...

01:47:17.000 It does break down sometimes.

01:47:19.000 Trust me, I did it one time too.

01:47:20.000 I know.

01:47:21.000 Yeah, that's tough.

01:47:22.000 So for me, you know, he moved out, but when we tried to fix things, I was just like, okay, I'm a cheater.

01:47:29.000 I held the adulterer fucking badge, you know, and then, yeah.

01:47:36.000 Hold on.

01:47:37.000 Was it good at least?

01:47:38.000 What?

01:47:38.000 Was it good?

01:47:42.000 I mean, that adds a whole element to the situation.

01:47:46.000 Yeah, drugs are terrible.

01:47:48.000 Drugs are bad.

01:47:49.000 Yeah, they're really bad.

01:47:51.000 So, yeah.

01:47:53.000 Drugs are bad, kids.

01:47:54.000 Mr. Mackey.

01:47:55.000 Okay.

01:47:58.000 We have another one from Fresh Up.

01:48:03.000 No, this is one from Create Chaos.

01:48:06.000 Let me get that one already.

01:48:08.000 Jovan Bajani says, Hey Fresh, you're probably super busy, but networking.

01:48:15.000 Okay.

01:48:17.000 Oh, here we go.

01:48:19.000 Hey Fresh, you're probably super busy, but I sent you a DM on Discord.

01:48:21.000 In regards to your assistance in networking, I'm a CC Premium as well.

01:48:24.000 My username is Jovan.

01:48:25.000 I got you, bro.

01:48:26.000 Look at that.

01:48:27.000 After this show.

01:48:27.000 Hey guys, by the way, join the email list.

01:48:28.000 Link below.

01:48:29.000 Get in there.

01:48:30.000 And we're going to do a zone call for you guys this weekend?

01:48:33.000 Yeah.

01:48:34.000 Yeah, we'll get something for you because we've been in Vegas.

01:48:36.000 Cool.

01:48:37.000 Just one more here, I believe.

01:48:39.000 We have Tyler Durden says, What up, Myron Fresh?

01:48:43.000 Are you guys going to collab with The Saint while you're in Vegas?

01:48:45.000 Side note, the chick in the black is one of the hottest black chicks you've had on FNF. Her body's mid, though. 1.00

01:48:51.000 Myron, you gotta disable or dabble in the dark tonight.

01:48:53.000 LOL. She said that you're really hot.

01:48:56.000 Yeah, they're giving you a comment.

01:48:57.000 You want to say it back to them?

01:48:59.000 Thank you.

01:49:00.000 Okay.

01:49:01.000 You like chocolate?

01:49:05.000 What's your type?

01:49:05.000 She's complicated.

01:49:07.000 I like chocolate.

01:49:08.000 I like fruits.

01:49:09.000 I like all types of things.

01:49:10.000 Oh, you're funny.

01:49:11.000 Alright, cool.

01:49:12.000 Last one.

01:49:13.000 Last one.

01:49:15.000 Jacob says, if you punish the truth...

01:49:19.000 Wait, hold on.

01:49:21.000 If you punish the truth, you're asking to be lied to.

01:49:24.000 If you punish the truth, you're asking to be lied to.

01:49:27.000 Basically what we were talking about before.

01:49:29.000 She's saying, I want transparency.

01:49:30.000 Tell me you want other women, but they get punished for doing that. 1.00

01:49:34.000 By the way, I was saying Che is Ki, actually. 0.81

01:49:35.000 Ki is the guy that helped us with the show.

01:49:37.000 Sorry.

01:49:38.000 Okay.

01:49:39.000 So, ladies, let's do this. 1.00

01:49:41.000 Questions for us on the panel?

01:49:42.000 Why things don't work out?

01:49:44.000 Why do you guys ghosting you?

01:49:45.000 And that's Frank over there.

01:49:47.000 It's cold as hell here in Vegas, guys.

01:49:49.000 So, I went and Andrew got him a sweater.

01:49:51.000 It's so cute.

01:49:52.000 Got the Cosby sweater.

01:49:55.000 Okay.

01:49:55.000 What do you think is the length of a relationship until a guy proposes?

01:50:02.000 Good question.

01:50:04.000 So I think for most people, they're going to say maybe two to three years, something like that.

01:50:10.000 But I think if a guy knows that you're the one and he's actually interested in you becoming important in his life, it's going to be pretty soon.

01:50:15.000 So I won't say like two years, three years.

01:50:17.000 Let me be like, as long as it takes for him to understand that you're the one, which means it could be six months, could be a year, could be less, could even be longer.

01:50:24.000 But again, the time is important is you being the person that he needs you to be.

01:50:28.000 That's important, I think.

01:50:31.000 My range is a little wide.

01:50:32.000 I go somewhere between one to five years.

01:50:34.000 Can be, you know, the situation.

01:50:36.000 Because the reason why I have such a wide variance is because guys that are more religious will tend to probably propose earlier on, right?

01:50:43.000 Versus guys that are more secular might wait and be a little bit more reserved.

01:50:46.000 So that's why I give that wide variance.

01:50:49.000 But I do think that getting with a guy that is religious is a good move, especially if you're a religious woman.

01:50:55.000 Because, you know, someone that's secular a lot of times isn't going to be as beholden to their beliefs unless, like, they're really on point with a lot of other things in life.

01:51:02.000 But religious men tend to be more, being God-fearing and, you know, believing in your conviction makes you, you know, more likely to adhere to traditional masculine traits, right? 0.64

01:51:11.000 Like, if someone's a devout Christian, he's going to understand that, you know, he needs to be the provider-protector, right? 0.99

01:51:16.000 Or someone that's Muslim or even Jewish.

01:51:18.000 Like, you're going to, if they're Orthodox, whatever, they're going to, well, they won't marry you, actually, never mind. 0.86

01:51:22.000 They're Jewish.

01:51:22.000 But you guys get the point.

01:51:24.000 No, because they got to get with Jews. 0.91

01:51:26.000 Yeah, they got to get, yeah.

01:51:27.000 Yeah, for them, but...

01:51:28.000 But if they have some semblance of...

01:51:29.000 Even Muslim, too.

01:51:30.000 Like, culture.

01:51:31.000 Like, they're very...

01:51:32.000 They are.

01:51:33.000 They are.

01:51:33.000 But, like, a lot of times...

01:51:34.000 Because technically it's forbidden to force your wife to convert.

01:51:38.000 But...

01:51:40.000 Typically, can you find a guy that's, like, secular that will be, like, great?

01:51:44.000 Of course.

01:51:44.000 But what I've noticed is, like, if a guy's religious, he'll be more likely to propose earlier.

01:51:49.000 Like, Mr. Mormon guy. 0.79

01:51:50.000 Right?

01:51:51.000 Did it make sense, though?

01:51:52.000 Because you can tell when a guy's into you or not, right?

01:51:55.000 When you're, like, a priority.

01:51:56.000 For example, he's making things work, providing for you, making it happen.

01:52:00.000 You're going to know when he's actually going to be, like, serious with you at that point.

01:52:03.000 You'll know.

01:52:04.000 Solution, man.

01:52:05.000 Exactly.

01:52:06.000 Yeah.

01:52:07.000 Any other questions?

01:52:09.000 Yeah, anything y'all got for us?

01:52:10.000 Obviously, we got some controversial takes.

01:52:12.000 So if you guys, you know, nothing's off.

01:52:14.000 We'll tell you the real.

01:52:14.000 We won't lie to you.

01:52:15.000 Well, I might.

01:52:18.000 What's the longest relationship you guys have both been in?

01:52:22.000 For me right now with my girl Angie, she's there in the back.

01:52:25.000 It's going on almost two years now.

01:52:27.000 Two years.

01:52:27.000 What about you?

01:52:29.000 Five years.

01:52:30.000 Me and my dog.

01:52:33.000 Just kidding.

01:52:34.000 Not like that.

01:52:34.000 That's my son.

01:52:35.000 But no, probably like one year.

01:52:40.000 This guy, man.

01:52:42.000 Did you guys know within those one to two years that they were the one or not the one?

01:52:48.000 Well, I was having fun.

01:52:49.000 Honestly, I'm a real bastard.

01:52:53.000 With us, we talk about marriage.

01:52:55.000 I mean, that's a whole other conversation.

01:52:57.000 Here's the thing.

01:52:58.000 We kind of talked about this with Ryan yesterday, but just to summarize, our view on marriage is that it's a great institution.

01:53:03.000 I think with children, it needs to be there.

01:53:06.000 However, we don't like the way marriage is done in 2024 in modern society where the state is involved and it incentivizes women to divorce you and take your resources.

01:53:14.000 So if people can find a way to get married without the state involved, I'm all for it.

01:53:19.000 Especially if you have kids.

01:53:19.000 As a matter of fact, I think it's a non-negotiable.

01:53:21.000 If you're going to have kids, you need to be married.

01:53:23.000 I don't think having children out of wedlock is the way to move.

01:53:27.000 It leads to a lot of societal problems.

01:53:28.000 If you look at a lot of the issues with criminals and degeneracy, almost all of them come from single mother households. 1.00

01:53:35.000 And a big part of that is because the children are born out of wedlock.

01:53:37.000 So I think if you're going to have kids, you need that nuclear family. 0.63

01:53:40.000 And that's why I think, because I feel like this whole conversation, what men look for, what women look for, it's all based off sex.

01:53:47.000 I'm like, that's why I'm like, this is sorcery.

01:53:49.000 I'm over it.

01:53:50.000 Like, I think if people really were like celibacy before ceremony type shit and like really stuck to doctors.

01:53:55.000 Wait, are you bad in bed?

01:53:57.000 Huh?

01:53:57.000 Are you bad in bed?

01:53:58.000 I'm terrible.

01:54:00.000 Makes sense.

01:54:00.000 Yeah.

01:54:02.000 The reason why...

01:54:03.000 But you know what I mean?

01:54:04.000 So that's all...

01:54:05.000 The society is based shit off.

01:54:08.000 That's where they're holding their values to.

01:54:11.000 And always just...

01:54:12.000 Our body is our temple.

01:54:14.000 But I think that's also in response to women being over-sexualized today. 0.82

01:54:19.000 So I see what you're saying.

01:54:22.000 We should be promoting self-esteem or whatever.

01:54:23.000 But the problem is that...

01:54:27.000 Men practicing celibacy actually hurts them, right?

01:54:30.000 And I'll explain what I mean by this.

01:54:31.000 So, the average girl, by the time she's like 22 years old, especially if she's college educated, she probably knows her way around men pretty well.

01:54:38.000 She's been getting hit on since she was 10. Getting flirted with in high school, middle school, college, etc. 0.98

01:54:44.000 So she's probably, by the time she's 22 years old, has interacted with 10,000 plus men, right?

01:54:48.000 Like, of course, she's not going to deal with all of them.

01:54:51.000 Like, I'm saying, like, 10,000 men have probably made a pass on her. 0.91

01:54:53.000 Oh, you're cute.

01:54:54.000 Oh, I'd like to take you out sometime.

01:54:56.000 Oh, you know, you're at a club and some guy approaches you.

01:54:59.000 Like, easily 10,000, right, interactions.

01:55:01.000 So women become very good at figuring out which guys are attractive, which guys aren't, and being able to quickly decipher them, right? 0.78

01:55:07.000 So in other words, Women get more experience with opposite gender. 0.98

01:55:10.000 And then obviously getting more exposure to opposite gender is going to lead inevitably to some sexual encounters. 0.94

01:55:16.000 And these men, a lot of times, don't get a fraction of those encounters with women.

01:55:20.000 So they get even less of those sexual encounters.

01:55:22.000 And they're socially awkward, yeah.

01:55:23.000 And they're socially awkward, too.

01:55:24.000 And who are they?

01:55:24.000 School shooters?

01:55:26.000 Keeping it beat.

01:55:27.000 That's a part of it, yeah.

01:55:28.000 I was talking about a certain situation, how certain men are kind of like weird, weird.

01:55:32.000 And I'm going to get to that right now.

01:55:34.000 And I'm like, that's like mental health.

01:55:36.000 So the reason why, right?

01:55:37.000 So like, and then there's a bunch of reasons for why we have this, right?

01:55:40.000 Feminism promotes, you know, women being out there and exploring their options. 1.00

01:55:44.000 Technology has made men more reclusive and sitting inside, they're less likely. 0.99

01:55:47.000 You mentioned earlier that intelligent men, you're more likely to find them on dating apps.

01:55:50.000 I actually agree with that 100%.

01:55:51.000 They're not necessarily going to be out in a nightclub or a bar being super social.

01:55:55.000 They're too busy working.

01:55:56.000 Yeah, on that as well.

01:55:57.000 So with all of that said, right, because you said, hey, the celibacy and stuff, the lack of celibacy, right, from both genders is kind of a manifestation of feminism and what we've done where we've over-sexualized women. 1.00

01:56:11.000 And to deal with that, a lot of guys have to almost, to figure this shit out, they have to get sexual experience because if a guy's a virgin or not sexual experience and he gets with a girl that is sexual experience, it winds up happening.

01:56:22.000 That girl runs circles around him. 0.72

01:56:23.000 He's simping.

01:56:24.000 He doesn't know how to be a man because she's leveraging sex against him. 1.00

01:56:27.000 He's a sucker.

01:56:28.000 So they get finessed.

01:56:29.000 So for guys, though, I do think that it's a beautiful thing if both parties can be virgins when they marry.

01:56:35.000 It's just not realistic and practical because women are more promiscuous now than ever before. 1.00

01:56:39.000 So if anything, guys got to catch up.

01:56:41.000 Also, a special mention, we got to shout out Origin Podcast for having us here.

01:56:45.000 Shout out to him for supporting us.

01:56:47.000 He's here in the back.

01:56:48.000 Shout out to you, bro.

01:56:49.000 Okay.

01:56:51.000 Did it make sense?

01:56:54.000 Yeah.

01:56:55.000 Cool.

01:56:55.000 Anything else?

01:56:58.000 Thank you.

01:56:58.000 Thank you, guys.

01:56:59.000 It was a good show.

01:57:02.000 Shorter than usual because we only had four panelists, but it was a good discussion.

01:57:05.000 They were a cool understanding.

01:57:06.000 They took it in.

01:57:07.000 And we hope to wish you the best of your relationships.

01:57:10.000 I would say they're the best girls that we've talked to in Vegas compared to the other fucking plastic idiots. 1.00

01:57:15.000 They're not bimbos. 1.00

01:57:16.000 Well, you're cooked, but the rest of you...

01:57:19.000 No, I'm just kidding.

01:57:20.000 I'm kidding.

01:57:21.000 Remember, we were talking about that.

01:57:22.000 See?

01:57:25.000 No, no, no.

01:57:28.000 You need some help.

01:57:30.000 But no, no.

01:57:31.000 It was a good show.

01:57:32.000 Before we close out, any last thoughts on the show?

01:57:35.000 Hate it, love it.

01:57:36.000 Anything you want to say before we close out?

01:57:39.000 I've actually seen the show before.

01:57:40.000 I've watched him.

01:57:41.000 Oh, you did watch us?

01:57:42.000 Okay, give us your real thoughts about us, though, before you came in here.

01:57:47.000 Keep it real.

01:57:47.000 Actually, yeah, you can keep it real.

01:57:48.000 What'd you think?

01:57:49.000 Because I'm sure you probably saw clips.

01:57:50.000 Fuck these niggas, man. 1.00

01:57:52.000 Tell them.

01:57:52.000 You keep it real.

01:57:54.000 Before, like, when I see the clips, and when I see your guys' clips, it's always, like, the worst part of the clip.

01:57:59.000 Like, the worst thing.

01:58:00.000 We're racist, massagists, we hate women, right? 1.00

01:58:02.000 That's what they say.

01:58:02.000 All I see is, yo hoes are...

01:58:04.000 I'm like, damn, hold on.

01:58:05.000 Let me fast forward this really quick to make sure this is the right podcast for me.

01:58:09.000 But, I mean, like, hearing certain points of views, it makes sense.

01:58:14.000 There's a couple of things that, like, that didn't make sense.

01:58:16.000 Like, okay...

01:58:18.000 What was it?

01:58:19.000 Oh, yeah, you can't have, like, guy friends.

01:58:20.000 If you're in a relationship and stuff like that, guy friends, that's, like, kind of pushing it.

01:58:23.000 Well, I don't feel like all guy friends want something.

01:58:25.000 I've had friends that, like, literally that conversation had never happened.

01:58:29.000 It's mainly been off of, like, certain things like, oh, my girlfriend's coming.

01:58:33.000 Like, just so she's not by herself and stuff, can you come so you guys can chill together while we, you know, everyone else is, like, chilling and doing stuff like that.

01:58:39.000 So, I mean, other than that, but being here in person, actually hearing you guys, it made a lot more sense than the clips of y'all cussing us women out and...

01:58:48.000 Don't do this for real.

01:58:50.000 To your example, I do think that there's a sliver of a potential where a guy can be friends with a woman.

01:58:57.000 But I'm saying in 99% of cases, it's just not that way.

01:59:00.000 The only time I've ever seen a woman be friends with a man and it actually works out is when there's heavy consequences for either party engaging in sexual activity. 0.89

01:59:08.000 I'll give you an example.

01:59:09.000 Let's say I have a girlfriend and her best friend are like really close and I'm like an associate with her.

01:59:15.000 Well, we probably wouldn't hook up at least because it would fuck shit up or work or something like that.

01:59:20.000 So I've seen if there's like serious consequences, then it forces both parties to stay friends and incentivize them.

01:59:25.000 But most of the time, let's be honest, the dude wants to smash.

01:59:27.000 You just can't do it.

01:59:29.000 Or she's ugly. 1.00

01:59:30.000 Or that, which is actually rare too.

01:59:33.000 Yeah.

01:59:33.000 But yeah, I mean, it could exist, but I would argue most of the time the dude wants to smash.

01:59:36.000 Maybe they get drunk though, maybe.

01:59:38.000 They're drunk.

01:59:38.000 Okay, what about you?

01:59:39.000 Yeah.

01:59:40.000 I liked it.

01:59:41.000 I feel like...

01:59:42.000 You were very understanding.

01:59:43.000 I feel like you've...

01:59:44.000 I was just going to say, like, I've been on a panel before where the ages were closer, me and the other girl.

01:59:52.000 And so I think that because...

01:59:54.000 Which panel?

01:59:55.000 Which podcast?

01:59:56.000 With Key.

01:59:57.000 I was on Dumb Jocks.

01:59:58.000 Yeah, I was on Dumb Jocks.

02:00:00.000 Right?

02:00:01.000 Yeah.

02:00:02.000 And it's no offense to you guys, but I feel like...

02:00:05.000 I just don't really resonate with you guys as much because I'm 33 and I mean, I have a kid in high school.

02:00:13.000 Yeah, we shouldn't.

02:00:13.000 We all have different experiences.

02:00:15.000 Well, yeah, women are kind of like, no offense, you guys kind of age like in dog years almost. 1.00

02:00:19.000 No offense.

02:00:22.000 My bio age is 23, so what's up?

02:00:26.000 Yeah, because the thing is, is that when you guys hit 30, life is significantly different for you than when you were 20. Yeah, I'm in my prime.

02:00:34.000 Like, you guys are in your prime in your 20s versus at 30s, things are starting to decline.

02:00:38.000 Versus for us, we're at our lowest at 20. Like, men, like, we only gain value as we get older. 0.71

02:00:45.000 Assuming we do the work.

02:00:46.000 If we're broke at 20 and still broke at 30, it sucks still.

02:00:48.000 But, like, for women, it's like, whether you're broke or not, at 20 years old, life is going to be great if you're halfway attractive.

02:00:54.000 So for you guys, there's a big difference between a 20-year-old woman and a 30-year-old woman.

02:00:59.000 You don't think so?

02:01:00.000 Really?

02:01:02.000 When I was 20, I was a bubble head.

02:01:05.000 There was absolutely not one thought in there.

02:01:07.000 Now, I mean, even conversational-wise, I wouldn't even be able to sit down and have certain...

02:01:14.000 If she can't do certain things or she can't even sit there and talk to you being pretty, that's just good for one thing. 1.00

02:01:20.000 Yeah, but I'm speaking.

02:01:21.000 See, here's the thing.

02:01:22.000 You attributed it right back to being a woman. 0.68

02:01:23.000 I'm talking from the male perspective.

02:01:24.000 Male perspective?

02:01:25.000 To us, you have the most value when you're 20. Yeah, because we go off of looks and age.

02:01:30.000 Yes, 100%.

02:01:30.000 100%.

02:01:32.000 See, there you go.

02:01:33.000 That's a female trait right there. 1.00

02:01:34.000 I'll say something and then they'll be like, well, to me it's not that way.

02:01:37.000 It's the rebuttal.

02:01:38.000 I'm telling you, but yeah, you got to remember, how you see yourself is irrelevant to how men see you.

02:01:43.000 You might look at yourself and say, I'm successful, I'm smart, I'm educated, but men don't care about that.

02:01:48.000 They really don't.

02:01:50.000 Like, we'll take a 20-year-old bubble head, as you would say, that's compliant over a 30-year-old woman that's going to be annoying any day. 1.00

02:01:57.000 Yes, that's true.

02:01:59.000 It's true.

02:02:00.000 So that's what I mean when I say women age in dog years, because at 30, like, you don't have the same value to a man as you did when you were 20. Versus for me, at 30, I'm going to have way more value than I did at 20. I didn't ask them at 20 at all. 0.64

02:02:13.000 Did you finish your point?

02:02:14.000 Yeah.

02:02:16.000 I guess.

02:02:18.000 Does that make sense though?

02:02:19.000 Yeah, no, absolutely.

02:02:21.000 What about you, miss?

02:02:22.000 Oh, this was fun.

02:02:23.000 I was going to say Miss Mormon. 0.70

02:02:25.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:02:27.000 Learn anything here?

02:02:29.000 I feel like I like hearing from guys' perspectives.

02:02:32.000 You're going to tell Bumbleguy that, hey man, we can bang girls together? 0.97

02:02:36.000 Nope.

02:02:39.000 All right, well, when he cheats on you, he'll get mad at me.

02:02:42.000 Right now, don't leave him.

02:02:43.000 You had your chance.

02:02:44.000 You had your chance.

02:02:50.000 He's watching right now.

02:02:51.000 Wait, have y'all hooked up yet?

02:02:54.000 Okay, he's still going to want another one.

02:02:57.000 Just be ready to have that conversation.

02:03:01.000 Okay, when does a man doesn't want any other woman? 0.94

02:03:06.000 Almost never.

02:03:07.000 Pretty much.

02:03:11.000 That thirst for other women almost never goes away. 0.97

02:03:13.000 Okay, the thirst, yeah.

02:03:14.000 It might go down.

02:03:15.000 I feel like even women too, whether they say it or not, and they act upon it or not, they start seeing other men in a certain way.

02:03:23.000 I'll tell you this.

02:03:26.000 As they stay with you longer in age, it's probably going to go down.

02:03:29.000 So let's say he was cheating on you with like 10 girls a year, right?

02:03:32.000 At the beginning of the relationship, it might go down to just one.

02:03:34.000 Because he's like, man, I don't want to deal with this bullshit no more.

02:03:36.000 But the want and need to be with other women almost always stays there.

02:03:41.000 Especially if your guy has high testosterone, is traditionally masculine, he's always going to want other women. 0.66

02:03:46.000 So it's like a catch-22 for you guys.

02:03:48.000 You want a guy that's a leader and assertive, everything?

02:03:50.000 Well, guess what comes with that?

02:03:51.000 He's going to want other bitches. 1.00

02:03:53.000 I can't read this one.

02:03:54.000 What does it say?

02:03:59.000 Tyler Durden says, Fresh.

02:04:02.000 Wrong black chick, bro. 1.00

02:04:03.000 The black chick with the black hair is the hottest black chick that's been on FNF. Ninja. 1.00

02:04:08.000 What the fuck?

02:04:09.000 Do you have eyes?

02:04:10.000 LOL. Wait, what?

02:04:13.000 Oh, damn.

02:04:13.000 Everyone's beautiful.

02:04:14.000 Bye.

02:04:15.000 I caught it.

02:04:16.000 Oh, Tyler.

02:04:17.000 Yeah, Tyler.

02:04:18.000 I thought he meant you, but he meant her.

02:04:21.000 Okay.

02:04:22.000 I'm going to move on now.

02:04:24.000 Yeah, that was...

02:04:25.000 That was that bad.

02:04:25.000 Fucking asshole.

02:04:26.000 Comfort Zone.

02:04:28.000 Fresh, read this card.

02:04:30.000 When this card is played, it means Real Fresh has left the building.

02:04:33.000 I can't see all this, by the way.

02:04:36.000 Oh, wait, hold on.

02:04:37.000 Here it is.

02:04:38.000 You can't be serious, is the tagline here.

02:04:41.000 When this card is played, it means Real Fresh has left the building and Toon Fresh is in town.

02:04:45.000 Toon Fresh is no longer willing to listen to your female delusion logic. 1.00

02:04:49.000 He's ready to troll you instead.

02:04:51.000 Attack 2500. Defense.

02:04:52.000 Oh, because he did that during the show with the music shit.

02:04:54.000 Okay.

02:04:55.000 Yeah, yeah, of course.

02:04:56.000 Okay.

02:04:56.000 Cool.

02:04:57.000 Cool.

02:04:57.000 We got HK. My boy, Octavius, want to hook up with the black girl with the wig.

02:05:03.000 Here he is.

02:05:04.000 Yo, what the fuck?

02:05:09.000 It's KSI. It's KSI real quick.

02:05:13.000 Yeah, what the hell, man.

02:05:15.000 Okay.

02:05:16.000 Anything else?

02:05:16.000 Last one.

02:05:18.000 This is a classic for the show, ladies.

02:05:20.000 This is your time to shine.

02:05:22.000 Name three countries.

02:05:23.000 And you can't name USA, Canada, or Mexico.

02:05:27.000 We'll start right here.

02:05:30.000 Motherfucker. 0.99

02:05:31.000 I'm just kidding.

02:05:32.000 The countries.

02:05:33.000 Go ahead.

02:05:35.000 Yeah, just name them.

02:05:37.000 After she goes, one at a time.

02:05:40.000 Ethiopia.

02:05:42.000 We can't confirm or deny.

02:05:44.000 We're just going to listen.

02:05:45.000 Can I just go and get off the way?

02:05:49.000 I have three already in my brain.

02:05:52.000 What else?

02:05:56.000 Japan.

02:05:59.000 And Israel.

02:06:04.000 Debatable, but one more.

02:06:06.000 No, no, I can't do that.

02:06:08.000 Yeah!

02:06:09.000 She already did it, period. 0.89

02:06:11.000 All right, what about you?

02:06:14.000 Three countries?

02:06:15.000 Three countries, yeah.

02:06:17.000 East Asia?

02:06:21.000 I am so challenged.

02:06:24.000 They only teach geography in 12th grade, my bad.

02:06:27.000 Yeah, see, I didn't graduate high school in Russia.

02:06:32.000 One more.

02:06:34.000 Yeah.

02:06:36.000 Okay!

02:06:37.000 No, she said you can't use Mexico.

02:06:39.000 I know, I was trying to be funny.

02:06:40.000 Okay, cool.

02:06:40.000 All right, well, too bad you lost.

02:06:43.000 That's fantastic.

02:06:44.000 What about you?

02:06:44.000 I knew.

02:06:45.000 She's got this.

02:06:45.000 I got nervous.

02:06:46.000 What about you?

02:06:46.000 Go ahead.

02:06:47.000 There's still like 190 left.

02:06:50.000 Germany, Belgium.

02:06:56.000 What was my favorite?

02:06:57.000 I thought you liked smart guys.

02:06:58.000 Switzerland.

02:06:58.000 Okay.

02:06:59.000 What about you?

02:07:00.000 Two hours later.

02:07:02.000 Ah, you're too late.

02:07:03.000 Man, she got it.

02:07:05.000 Okay, Armenia, Poland.

02:07:08.000 Ireland.

02:07:09.000 All right.

02:07:10.000 Okay.

02:07:10.000 Smooth.

02:07:12.000 Cool.

02:07:12.000 So, guys, we'll be back live tomorrow, guys.

02:07:15.000 We're going to be back in Miami.

02:07:16.000 We're going to do a live.

02:07:17.000 We're going to react to that documentary.

02:07:18.000 With Lily Phillips.

02:07:19.000 With Lily the 304. Yeah.

02:07:21.000 We're going to give you guys probably the best breakdown on it tomorrow.

02:07:23.000 Probably around, what, 9.30 p.m.

02:07:25.000 Eastern Standard Time?

02:07:25.000 We're going to get off the plane and stream for you, niggas.

02:07:28.000 Tomorrow.

02:07:28.000 Like 10 p.m.

02:07:29.000 Yeah, something like that.

02:07:30.000 To be fair.

02:07:30.000 Hard to work a podcast in the game, guys.

02:07:32.000 Click the link below.

02:07:33.000 Get in the email list.

02:07:34.000 All the girls' Instagrams are below.

02:07:35.000 Go ahead and send them a dick pic if you want. 0.97

02:07:36.000 I'm sure they'd love that.

02:07:37.000 They've been great sports.

02:07:38.000 Thank you ladies for coming on.

02:07:39.000 Get on that email list tomorrow at 10.30pm.

02:07:41.000 We're going to react to the documentary and then go ahead.

02:07:43.000 Before we end, shout out to both Content Studio and Key and Post Game Profits.

02:07:48.000 And last but not least, shout out to the Origin Podcast for having us in the studio.

02:07:54.000 Thank you very much for having us here.

02:07:56.000 Thank you ladies for coming. 0.59

02:07:57.000 And again, think about this.

02:08:00.000 Thank you for coming.

02:08:01.000 10.30pm guys.

02:08:02.000 Bye.

02:08:02.000 Peace.

02:08:03.000 Bye.

02:08:04.000 Thank you.

Fresh & Fit - December 13, 2024

Dating In Las Vegas vs Miami - LIVE FROM VEGAS

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