Fresh & Fit - Dave Smith On 9-11, RUS-URK & Israel War, Libertarian, 2024 Presidential Debate & MORE!

00:06:29.000 And we are live.

00:06:30.000 What's up guys?

00:06:31.000 Welcome to Fresher Podcast, man.

00:06:32.000 We're here with Dave Smith.

00:06:33.000 Let's get into it.

00:06:33.000 Let's go!

00:07:21.000 I'll never tell a siren.

00:07:24.000 All right.

00:07:24.000 And we are live.

00:07:25.000 What's up, guys?

00:07:26.000 Welcome to the Freshman Podcast.

00:07:27.000 We got a special guest in the house.

00:07:29.000 We got Dave Smith, man.

00:07:31.000 Super excited to do this interview with him.

00:07:35.000 I've been a supporter of his work for a while.

00:07:38.000 I remember seeing a lot of his stuff on Rogan.

00:07:40.000 I was like, man, this guy got some pretty good takes.

00:07:43.000 It would be cool to talk to him one day.

00:07:44.000 And here he is, man.

00:07:45.000 So this was probably like a year or two ago when I saw him.

00:07:48.000 So let's bring him on screen real quick, guys.

00:07:49.000 Even I know who he is.

00:07:51.000 What's up, Dave?

00:07:51.000 Welcome to the show, my friend.

00:07:53.000 Thank you.

00:07:54.000 Thanks for having me, guys.

00:07:56.000 To be honest with you, we only brought you on so they wouldn't call us anti-Semite.

00:07:59.000 Well, this is the first step.

00:08:01.000 Although, from what I've seen this week, you're not going to be fully protected by that.

00:08:05.000 But it'll help.

00:08:06.000 Yeah.

00:08:08.000 There you go.

00:08:09.000 So, hey man, what's up?

00:08:10.000 Welcome to the podcast, bro.

00:08:11.000 For those that are unaware of who you are, can you please introduce yourself to the people that have been living under a rock?

00:08:17.000 Sure.

00:08:18.000 Well, I'm sure there's people who know me and people who don't know me, but I'm Dave Smith.

00:08:23.000 I'm a stand-up comedian and a podcaster and a libertarian, and I do a lot of shows, and that's my life.

00:08:33.000 Awesome.

00:08:34.000 Can you kind of give the people your backstory, like where you came from, where you grew up, etc.?

00:08:40.000 Sure.

00:08:41.000 So I grew up in Brooklyn, New York, and I was a New Yorker for my entire life.

00:08:50.000 I lived there up until 2020, and I moved when the lockdowns started.

00:08:56.000 And I live out in the country now, about an hour outside.

00:09:00.000 So not like too far, but out in a rural area.

00:09:04.000 But aside from that, I grew up as a...

00:09:10.000 I was a typical Brooklyn kid.

00:09:13.000 I had a single mom and was never super political or anything like that, but probably more liberal than anything else.

00:09:24.000 Then I started stand-up comedy after I dropped out of college.

00:09:29.000 I started stand-up comedy.

00:09:31.000 About 18 years ago.

00:09:33.000 And then I became very interested in politics in 2007, 2008.

00:09:40.000 And then I was kind of like just a degenerate comedian for many years after that.

00:09:47.000 And then about six, seven years ago, I got married and settled down and had a couple kids.

00:09:54.000 And then over the last couple years, things have been picking up.

00:09:59.000 Nice.

00:09:59.000 And business has been better.

00:10:01.000 So you mentioned earlier that you left New York, and I'm actually really excited to ask this because I get to finally ask one of you guys.

00:10:09.000 Why did you in particular leave New York, right?

00:10:12.000 Because Miami has been...

00:10:13.000 Dude, New Yorkers have just come here and filled the city up and transplants everywhere.

00:10:18.000 Luckily, you didn't come down to Florida.

00:10:20.000 You went...

00:10:21.000 You're not in Florida, right?

00:10:22.000 I'm guessing you're probably somewhere else?

00:10:23.000 No, no, no, no.

00:10:24.000 I'm in New Jersey.

00:10:25.000 I'm like an hour outside of New York City.

00:10:27.000 Okay, so you're not that far.

00:10:29.000 That's not even that bad.

00:10:30.000 It's the same thing.

00:10:31.000 Obviously, after 2020, everyone left New York.

00:10:35.000 What were your main reasons, like, I gotta get the hell out of here?

00:10:38.000 Was it the lockdowns?

00:10:39.000 Was it the extreme leftism?

00:10:41.000 Is it just the crime?

00:10:43.000 Because I think New York City's failed.

00:10:45.000 Yes.

00:10:46.000 Well, I agree with you that it's failed.

00:10:48.000 And by the way, I've had to fight moving to Florida a few different times.

00:10:54.000 That Patrick Bet-David has tried to get me down there, and he's made it pretty tempting.

00:11:00.000 So what happened with me was, me and my wife, we had our first child at the very end of 2018.

00:11:11.000 So through 2019, we were living on the Upper West Side of New York City.

00:11:16.000 And my wife was, she's from like the suburbs. 0.98

00:11:22.000 I'm from New York City, but she's from the Burbs. 0.99

00:11:25.000 And she kind of wanted, you know, she was kind of like, I'd really kind of rather go like get a house and have a big yard and have our kids in like a nice, you know, town.

00:11:37.000 And At the beginning of 2019, I was kind of like, now we're not doing that.

00:11:42.000 New York City is where I'm from.

00:11:44.000 This is where my career is.

00:11:45.000 I'm going to stay here.

00:11:46.000 This is kind of where the action is.

00:11:48.000 And I will say, as time went on, We're good to go.

00:12:09.000 Okay, so my kid was born in, you know, in December of 2018.

00:12:13.000 So I have like a baby at this point.

00:12:15.000 And she's a girl, my oldest.

00:12:19.000 And so as, you know, she's like three months, four months old, things like that.

00:12:25.000 You know, like little babies don't really know what's going on, but as their dad, I did just start to notice like things I had always just taken for granted in my life, like homeless people all over the place.

00:12:38.000 And then, you know, you're kind of like, hmm, like this isn't a big problem right now, but do I really want her when she's two, when she's three, like just kind of seeing all of this stuff, all the stuff that I saw really early in life that I just kind of took for granted,

00:12:54.000 but now I'm thinking to myself, maybe I actually don't want this.

00:12:57.000 So I kind of started moving in the direction of like, maybe I do kind of want to get out of the city and put my girls in a little bit of a...

00:13:08.000 Yeah, I was gonna say.

00:13:25.000 So our lease was up, I believe it was up in either April or May of 2020.

00:13:34.000 Oh, right in the middle, at the worst time.

00:13:37.000 And so then the lockdowns hit in March.

00:13:39.000 Yeah.

00:13:41.000 And so the lockdowns hit and things started getting a little bit weird.

00:13:46.000 And I got very, like, you know, the shelves started getting kind of empty very early on.

00:13:52.000 And so immediately, I mean, even before the actual lockdowns hit, it was like the week before that, we got our stuff and got out of there.

00:14:00.000 Okay.

00:14:01.000 And then we went and we stayed at her parents' house for like a couple weeks.

00:14:10.000 And then I was just like, once the lockdowns actually hit, and I knew my lease was coming up anyway, I was like, alright.

00:14:18.000 You know what?

00:14:19.000 I concede.

00:14:20.000 You win this debate.

00:14:22.000 It's not worth the lower price of rent.

00:14:23.000 It's not worth it.

00:14:24.000 I'm out of here.

00:14:25.000 Because that was the first time New York rent ever dropped.

00:14:28.000 Well, so, okay, so, right, so the rent dropped, but then it went right back up, like, shortly after that.

00:14:34.000 But, so, I immediately, because, you know, we were, like, in a little apartment that you're paying, like, an insane amount for, so immediately I started renting a house out there, and for the same price that I was renting a little apartment in New York City,

00:14:51.000 I got, like, this beautiful house.

00:14:53.000 Out in Jersey.

00:14:55.000 And then, so like right away, I was like, oh, I could kind of get used to this.

00:14:58.000 This is not.

00:14:59.000 And then, you know, as things were kind of crazy through the next couple years, then we ultimately ended up buying a house like out in the country, like really out there.

00:15:09.000 And I gotta say, I never thought I could live outside of New York City because I was just so used to it, but it is the best decision I've ever made.

00:15:18.000 I am so much happier and just enjoy life so much more being in the country than I ever did in the city.

00:15:24.000 Okay.

00:15:25.000 Yeah, I've always said, in my opinion, I think New York City is the most overrated place on earth.

00:15:29.000 And it's not until you leave that you realize, wow, there's places that are way better.

00:15:33.000 I grew up there as a kid in the early 90s, but I moved after.

00:15:37.000 I was actually in Brooklyn, too.

00:15:39.000 But I moved to Connecticut when I was nine, so I don't consider myself a New Yorker.

00:15:43.000 But I do remember there was a crime wave in the 90s.

00:15:47.000 I remember Giuliani coming in and cleaning up the streets and everything else like that.

00:15:50.000 You're a bit older than me, so do you remember the Giuliani era?

00:15:53.000 Are you a fan of Giuliani?

00:15:56.000 I'm not a fan of Giuliani for many reasons, but there's no question that during those years, New York City turned around.

00:16:06.000 I mean, it was really drastic.

00:16:10.000 So I'm 41.

00:16:12.000 I was born in 83, and Giuliani came in and, like, I don't know, 92?

00:16:20.000 Maybe something like that?

00:16:21.000 Early, mid-90s he came in.

00:16:23.000 And 1990 was the worst year, had the most murders.

00:16:26.000 The David Dinkins years were like crazy.

00:16:30.000 Now, of course, I was, you know, in 1990, I was seven.

00:16:34.000 So it's not like I have like, you know, like the best memories of it.

00:16:39.000 Or I wasn't like hanging out in adult situations.

00:16:42.000 But I do remember just like...

00:16:46.000 I mean, everything got stolen in New York City.

00:16:50.000 I mean, you couldn't literally, I mean, things that it sounds like cartoonish to say, but you had to not only, okay, you had to chain up your garbage cans that were in front of your house, and then we found this out, literally, this is not an exaggeration, that my stepfather chained up the garbage cans,

00:17:09.000 and they stole the garbage lids. 1.00

00:17:12.000 So he had to separately chain up the garbage lids and the garbage cans because it was like crackhead crime.

00:17:21.000 You know what I mean?

00:17:22.000 It didn't even make sense.

00:17:23.000 They were just trying to take whatever they could take and go see if they could sell it or whatever.

00:17:28.000 But even after Giuliani came in, when I was an older kid, a preteen and a teenager, it was still a high crime environment in New York City that was like...

00:17:42.000 Way worse than what any big city is today.

00:17:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:17:47.000 New York City used to literally be...

00:17:49.000 They used to call it Fear City in the 70s, and then it kind of stuck with that name into the 80s.

00:17:52.000 In the 90s, it was still terrible.

00:17:54.000 I think the most murders were in 91 or 90.

00:17:57.000 And Brooklyn, I mean, it's interesting now.

00:17:59.000 If you go to Brooklyn now in a lot of these places, it's going through extreme gentrification.

00:18:03.000 Because a lot of those yuppies got pushed out of Manhattan, and now the places that used to be terrible you would never go to in Brooklyn, they're a lot cleaner and safer now with hipsters.

00:18:12.000 so yeah for sure and even i don't even know exactly what explains it but it's not just that the people got pushed out of manhattan because there's parts of brooklyn now that are more expensive than manhattan like it's uh i i don't know out of um like i i choose not to to be there um but i out of my group of friends that i grew up with i think i might be the only one who could afford to still live in the neighborhood we came from If I wanted to.

00:18:40.000 Everybody got priced out.

00:18:42.000 Yeah.

00:18:43.000 It's crazy, man.

00:18:44.000 New York City, how expensive this guy is.

00:18:46.000 And I don't know how people make ends meet.

00:18:48.000 It's just crazy.

00:18:50.000 So you talked about becoming a comedian.

00:18:52.000 How did you get into that?

00:18:53.000 And what was it like in the beginning?

00:18:56.000 Because that's a very tough career to build some traction on, make some money, etc.

00:19:00.000 Most comics are obviously very poor and doing it on the side is for fun.

00:19:03.000 But you've been able to make it a real career.

00:19:05.000 How did you do that?

00:19:07.000 Okay, so I got into stand-up comedy because I was...

00:19:11.000 My buddy, who's like my brother, my best friend for the last fucking, you know, 20 years or whatever it is, Luis J. Gomez, was...

00:19:22.000 So he was like... 0.77

00:19:24.000 He was dating one of my sister's friends.

00:19:28.000 And I met him through that.

00:19:29.000 And me and him just got along immediately and started hanging out.

00:19:34.000 And he was promoting for a comedy club.

00:19:38.000 He was selling tickets for...

00:19:40.000 on the street for one of the comedy clubs in new york city and then because he was like the top promoter he started like hosting shows that he was producing and so anyway we ended up being friends for a while and then we got a place together we were roommates for a little bit like i was like i don't know 21 or something like that and he he Basically,

00:20:05.000 like, convinced me to start. 0.96

00:20:07.000 Like, he was like, dude, you're so fucking funny. 0.61

00:20:10.000 I think you'd be great at this. 0.93

00:20:11.000 I'm doing it, and it's going good.

00:20:13.000 And it was just like a thing to, like, you know, like, be cool and meet girls or whatever.

00:20:18.000 And I... For a while, I thought it.

00:20:22.000 It was like for over a year, I think he was trying to convince me to start.

00:20:26.000 And then eventually I was like, all right, let's go do it.

00:20:30.000 And I went to an open mic at Stand Up New York Comedy Club on 78th Street and Broadway in New York City.

00:20:38.000 Okay.

00:20:39.000 And it was terrible.

00:20:40.000 And this was like what year?

00:20:42.000 2007-ish?

00:20:43.000 2006, I want to say.

00:20:45.000 I think, I believe it was 2006.

00:20:47.000 Okay.

00:20:47.000 And so I go on stage to a room of 15 other open-miker comedians.

00:20:56.000 And, you know, it was just an awful environment to do comedy.

00:21:00.000 And I don't remember what it is I said, but I had one thing I said that got like a laugh in the room.

00:21:07.000 And I remember literally when it got that laugh...

00:21:10.000 I loved it.

00:21:11.000 And then I got off stage and I was like, I think I could do better than that.

00:21:15.000 Let's go hit another open mic.

00:21:16.000 And we went and hit one other open mic that night.

00:21:19.000 And then it went a little bit better.

00:21:21.000 And after that, it was like, this is what I'm going to do with my life.

00:21:25.000 That's it.

00:21:25.000 I just loved it so much.

00:21:27.000 I always thought there was something so beautiful about stand-up comedy.

00:21:31.000 It's this weird art form where one guy goes up on stage with no instrument, just his mind, and then can get the whole room to be cracking up laughing.

00:21:44.000 I thought it was such a beautiful thing, and I just totally fell in love with it, and I've been doing it ever since.

00:21:51.000 Would you say that most comedians bust their first couple shows as natural to happen?

00:21:55.000 Like you come on stage, you like, don't make it at all?

00:22:00.000 You know, I mean, if you, like, if you come on stage a couple times and then quit after that, then you never really, like, did comedy.

00:22:09.000 But regardless of how your first couple shows go, I think almost every comedian has to go through a lot of rough sets, a lot of just busting their ass, a lot, you know, it's almost like, like, is there a skateboarder who's never wiped out?

00:22:26.000 Gotcha.

00:22:27.000 Probably not.

00:22:28.000 You know, that's kind of part of the game is that you're going to fall and hurt yourself.

00:22:33.000 But hopefully once you kind of start getting good at it, that becomes rarer and rarer.

00:22:39.000 Well, we know two film comedians in Canada.

00:22:54.000 Here's the thing.

00:22:56.000 I ain't gonna lie.

00:22:56.000 I've never admitted this on air, but I'm gonna admit it.

00:22:58.000 I've actually kind of wanted to try it.

00:23:00.000 I've actually wanted to get on a stage and tell some jokes.

00:23:03.000 You'd be hilarious, bro.

00:23:03.000 I think I could do it.

00:23:04.000 But the thing is, is that going back to what Dave just said, like, I don't want people booing me and shit. 1.00

00:23:09.000 I'm going, fuck, I suck. 0.99

00:23:10.000 You know, it's just like, because it's not easy, dude. 1.00

00:23:12.000 That's why I have a great deal of respect for comedians, because...

00:23:16.000 You gotta get like beat up.

00:23:17.000 You gotta really rehash your routine.

00:23:19.000 You gotta try in front of different audiences.

00:23:21.000 You have to be able to adapt to your audience, right?

00:23:23.000 You gotta know which jokes to make on certain people.

00:23:26.000 And I had a discussion with the Hodgson's about this in detail.

00:23:29.000 And I've always had like a very deep admiration for comics because it's not easy, dude, to sit there and kind of read the room and adjust accordingly because doing it live is not easy.

00:23:40.000 And you gotta be able to think on top of your feet.

00:23:41.000 What would you say are some of the most important traits To be an effective comedian.

00:23:45.000 What are some of the things that you learned, you know, through your years, now better almost two decades of telling jokes?

00:23:52.000 Well, you know, it's a weird thing because, like, being a comedian is, it's as broad a category as, like, being a podcaster, right?

00:24:01.000 So, like, you know, whether you're, you could have a show or whatever, podcast or streamer, influencer, whatever, like, the, whatever we call these shows on the internet.

00:24:12.000 But, like, as you guys know, I mean, you guys have a very successful show that, at least from what I understand, I think?

00:24:43.000 Likewise, with stand-up comedy, it's not as if there's like one way you can be good at this.

00:24:48.000 There's an infinite amount of ways that you can be good at this.

00:24:52.000 There's comedians, I remember Patrice O'Neill, who I got to meet when I first started comedy, who's one of the most brilliant, incredible human beings I've ever met in my life.

00:25:04.000 I remember he said...

00:25:08.000 He said, the beauty of stand-up comedy is you could talk about the war in Iraq.

00:25:13.000 This is when that was, you know, the relevant thing. 0.99

00:25:16.000 He goes, you could talk about the war in Iraq, or you could talk about your balls. 0.99

00:25:21.000 Like, it doesn't matter. 0.99

00:25:22.000 It could be any topic from that to that.

00:25:25.000 And so, what it really takes to kind of be good at stand-up comedy, I mean, like, being a funny person is very helpful, and that's just kind of something that either is in you, or you develop, or whatever.

00:25:37.000 You probably came in with that.

00:25:38.000 But what it really takes to be a good stand-up comedian is kind of this ability to stick with it and find your voice.

00:25:47.000 Mm-hmm.

00:25:47.000 Okay.

00:26:03.000 issues or infinite things that somebody else is better than you at but if you can find the thing that makes you special and really kind of like exploit that then you could do something really great and I think that's very it's very similar in comedy in broadcasting and podcasting and in a lot of different areas in life I think that's kind of what it takes to be successful So say someone's watching this right now,

00:26:31.000 right?

00:26:31.000 And they're kind of like me.

00:26:32.000 I want to do this.

00:26:33.000 I want to try it.

00:26:34.000 I want to go to an open mic, right?

00:26:35.000 Maybe an improv class, something like that.

00:26:36.000 How long should their first routine be that they, you know, write out and script out?

00:26:43.000 How many minutes do you think?

00:26:45.000 I mean, I don't even, you know, in the same way that, okay, like, I've never served in the military, but if somebody was like, hey, you know, I just saw this video of you, like, you know, blowing up some helicopter,

00:27:01.000 I kind of want to do that.

00:27:03.000 What's the first step to that?

00:27:05.000 And I think somebody who's in the military would probably, they wouldn't be like, okay, you want to go down and find a recruiter, or you want to do this, or you, I think they would probably be like, hey, like, bust out 50 pushups.

00:27:18.000 You know like how's how does that feel?

00:27:21.000 Are you okay?

00:27:22.000 Can you get through that?

00:27:23.000 Did you fail after 10?

00:27:25.000 Then like okay maybe you should do okay so so fail after 10 and then come back and do another you know what I mean like the round tomorrow.

00:27:33.000 I think that if you forget how long your set is that you should write if you want to do it what I say is go to a local open mic and go do that And then get off stage and then talk to me.

00:27:47.000 Gotcha.

00:27:48.000 And then tell me if you still want to do it.

00:27:50.000 Or if you just, like, you know what I'm saying?

00:27:52.000 Like, in the same way that, like, if people were like, if people came up to one of you two and they were like, hey, I want to have a really successful show just like you guys have.

00:28:00.000 What should I do? 0.98

00:28:01.000 You know, it's like, well, the first thing is go do a show where no one gives a shit what you're saying. 0.99

00:28:07.000 No one cares at all. 0.96

00:28:08.000 And then tell me, do you still want to do this?

00:28:10.000 Did you just want to be famous?

00:28:12.000 Did you just want to be rich?

00:28:13.000 Or did you actually want to do this show?

00:28:15.000 So that's kind of like my first thing.

00:28:17.000 You're never going to write a great 15 minutes of stand-up comedy when you've never been on stage before.

00:28:24.000 That's just not going to happen.

00:28:25.000 So go get on stage, do bad, and then see if you really still want to do this or not.

00:28:32.000 So Dave, I think comedians have a superpower where they can talk about anything pretty much and not get canceled for it.

00:28:38.000 Yeah.

00:28:39.000 For the most part.

00:28:40.000 And I was curious to know your top three comedians of all time.

00:28:43.000 I was literally going to ask that next.

00:28:44.000 Yeah, I was literally going to ask that next.

00:28:45.000 Top three comedians.

00:28:46.000 Top three comedians of all time.

00:28:49.000 For you.

00:28:51.000 You know, that's tough because it's almost like Like, what era they were in, you know?

00:28:58.000 Like, um, okay.

00:29:01.000 In the, in the, uh, Killing Them Softly and For What It's Worth era, like, those two specials and the Chappelle show, Dave Chappelle, to me, was, like, about as funny as any stand-up comedian could be.

00:29:15.000 Right.

00:29:15.000 Um, Louis C.K., when he was at the top of his game.

00:29:19.000 Okay. 1.00

00:29:20.000 Just jerking off on chicks. 1.00

00:29:22.000 At the top. 1.00

00:29:23.000 Yeah.

00:29:25.000 He was pretty incredible.

00:29:26.000 Bill Burr, when he was at the top of his game, was incredible.

00:29:31.000 And then, you know, more personally, Dave Attell and Patrice O'Neill, who are the guys who I got to watch in the New York City scene when I first started, were just phenomenal to me.

00:29:45.000 But I will say, there's so many great comedians that it's like...

00:29:50.000 You know, there's somebody else you could bring up right now who I might be like, yeah, maybe that guy's the best, or maybe he's, you know, it's very, it's not like, it's not like a sport where there's like, you know, who's better, Jordan or LeBron, where you're kind of at least comparing them doing the exact same thing.

00:30:08.000 It's more like, you know, a thing where you're like, okay, who's better your, you know, Your cardiologist or your podiatrist.

00:30:22.000 And you're like, I don't know.

00:30:23.000 They take care of different things.

00:30:24.000 It's just different.

00:30:26.000 But those guys were all just incredible to me at their height.

00:30:31.000 Yeah.

00:30:32.000 Okay.

00:30:32.000 No, I mean, to this day, Dave Chappelle, he did this one skin on public transportation.

00:30:37.000 Since you mentioned Busted Nuts.

00:30:39.000 On public transportation, how this homeless dude shot a nut on somebody in the morning.

00:30:45.000 And then the Native American one also makes me laugh when he says how he was in a store in a sport section and a Native American dude was there and he talks about smoking weed and whatever.

00:30:56.000 Did you ever hear his bit on that same special that you're talking about?

00:31:00.000 That was for what it's worth?

00:31:01.000 But when he has the bit, as you know...

00:31:05.000 Look, this was like one of the most incredible things I've ever seen because this is Dave Chappelle.

00:31:10.000 It was in between season one and season two of Chappelle's show.

00:31:14.000 So he's finally got this show.

00:31:16.000 It's blown up.

00:31:17.000 He's an A-list celebrity now after just being like a working comic for many years.

00:31:23.000 And in the middle of his show, he's killing it.

00:31:26.000 And he does the bit about R. Kelly and the whole, how old is 15 really?

00:31:32.000 How old is 15 really?

00:31:34.000 Dude, he literally, and this was what was so incredible to me, with the premise of the bit, he loses the crowd.

00:31:41.000 Like he goes, how old is 15 really?

00:31:44.000 And the whole crowd gets so weird.

00:31:46.000 And then he goes, no, no, that's a good question.

00:31:50.000 And then he has this long bit where basically he gets into like this black girl who was kidnapped and this white girl who was kidnapped and then he gets into this black 15 year old who killed a guy accidentally doing like backyard wrestling and they tried him like an adult and then he's like well if at 15 you could be tried like an adult then it's old enough to get pissed on and there's this whole thing and like It's so funny the way he does it.

00:32:17.000 You're uncomfortable the whole time, but you're like also laughing.

00:32:21.000 And then also by the end, you're like, I think he did make a good point actually with all of this.

00:32:26.000 And it was just like really, really high level, like really hilarious and really smart and provocative.

00:32:33.000 And like that, that to me is like...

00:32:35.000 What stand-up comedy is supposed to be?

00:32:37.000 Yeah, it was fantastic because I remember this.

00:32:40.000 It's actually embarrassing that I even remember this.

00:32:42.000 He talks about a girl named Elizabeth Smart that escaped being tied up from some crackheads.

00:32:47.000 And she was only 15 years old and was able to find her way back. 1.00

00:32:52.000 He made this joke like, you know, I know where I'm at, fuck off me. 0.99

00:32:56.000 There's two exits. 0.99

00:32:58.000 And then the kid that you were talking about, because I remember this story broke out in the 2000s.

00:33:02.000 He did a wrestling move. 0.99

00:33:03.000 I think he rocked bottomed his sister or some shit and killed her. 1.00

00:33:05.000 Lionel Tate. 1.00

00:33:06.000 A 15 year old kid.

00:33:07.000 Lionel what?

00:33:07.000 Lionel Tate.

00:33:08.000 Lionel Tate killed his sister. 1.00

00:33:10.000 Damn! 1.00

00:33:10.000 And then he brought it back. 1.00

00:33:12.000 Hey, if they could do all this, you should be able to piss on him, which was hilarious.

00:33:16.000 Because he brought it back and reminded everybody how 15 is. 0.71

00:33:18.000 I think she was single-digit age.

00:33:20.000 Yeah, yeah, it was his little sister.

00:33:21.000 Yes, yes.

00:33:22.000 So, no, it was a funny bit.

00:33:24.000 And look, it's not, again, like, comedy is not literal.

00:33:29.000 It's not that, like, literally what he's saying is true.

00:33:32.000 But it does just start to, like, you know, even things like that, it does kind of make you ask the question where you're like, okay, so, like, look, I don't know exactly what the answer is, but if a 14-year-old or a 15-year-old could be convicted of murder tried as an adult,

00:33:52.000 Like, because they did something bad, you can say, okay, they're an adult now.

00:33:57.000 They have to face adult consequences.

00:33:59.000 Then it does just make you go like, okay, well then, like, that's not really consistent with, like, saying that, oh, okay, no, that's only a child.

00:34:08.000 He can't consent.

00:34:09.000 So perhaps the answer is that 15-year-olds should never be tried as adults.

00:34:13.000 That kind of, maybe that is the answer.

00:34:15.000 I don't exactly know.

00:34:16.000 But I know that that's a good enough, like, he found, well, There's a ripple in the universe that's like, no, no, no, that doesn't make any sense.

00:34:26.000 It can't be this and this. 0.99

00:34:28.000 In the same way that like, you know, like, you know, I'm sure you guys have heard like the dumb feminist arguments where there'll be like all drunk sex is rape or something like that. 0.99

00:34:40.000 Where it's like, oh, if you gave a girl a couple drinks, even if she consented, you're still a rapist. 0.99

00:34:45.000 Yeah.

00:34:46.000 And you're like, okay, well, if that's true, then we shouldn't charge anyone with drunk driving.

00:34:50.000 You know, like, if you're saying that when you're drunk, you no longer have agency, then okay, but just be consistent. 0.99

00:34:58.000 And there's something about, like, just finding those inconsistencies that even if you don't have all the right answers, it's still a beautiful thing to go like, okay, something here is full of shit. 0.99

00:35:09.000 This doesn't make sense. 0.96

00:35:10.000 You know, and Bill Burr, I think, made a joke on this.

00:35:12.000 And I remember this, because, you know, and I'm really exposing myself right now.

00:35:18.000 I remember Bill Burr went on a legendary rant in Philadelphia. 0.98

00:35:21.000 And he literally, like, because they were just booing him out of the fucking place. 0.99

00:35:24.000 And he just went on like a seven or eight minute, you know, fucking tirade, just shitting all over Philadelphia. 1.00

00:35:31.000 How the Eagles suck, how their city sucks, how they're a bunch of fucking crashers. 1.00

00:35:35.000 He went crazy. 1.00

00:35:37.000 And it's funny because if you've ever been to Philadelphia, you're like, he's kind of right. 1.00

00:35:41.000 Philly does suck. 0.99

00:35:42.000 This is like the worst city on the Northeast. 1.00

00:35:44.000 He just fucking bombarded them for seven to eight minutes straight. 0.95

00:35:49.000 And I think it's probably one of the best improv situations where he was able to take an L and turn it into a huge W. I really think everybody should go check it out. 0.97

00:35:58.000 I'm sure you saw that, Dave.

00:36:00.000 Oh, yeah.

00:36:01.000 Oh, yeah.

00:36:01.000 No, I... Okay, so I... Me and, like, another guy...

00:36:05.000 Because this has got to be, like, right around when I first started.

00:36:07.000 It was, like, in those years.

00:36:09.000 Maybe this was, like, 2008 or something like that.

00:36:10.000 Yeah, it was right around then, yeah.

00:36:12.000 And so I remember me and one of my buddies, who was, like, another young comic at the time, we talked...

00:36:19.000 We went up to Bill Burr...

00:36:21.000 At the Comedy Cellar, like a few weeks after that.

00:36:24.000 And we were both like, we were like, yo, dude, that was like the greatest thing ever, man.

00:36:29.000 Like, that's so awesome.

00:36:30.000 It was like a viral video at the very beginning of viral videos on the internet.

00:36:36.000 Yeah.

00:36:37.000 And he just goes, he goes, really, dude?

00:36:39.000 I did an HBO special this year and that's all I'm known for now.

00:36:43.000 Really?

00:36:43.000 Is it great, dude?

00:36:44.000 Blah, blah, blah. 0.95

00:36:44.000 And like, she just like kind of like busted our balls about it. 0.95

00:36:48.000 But then I think he was worried a little bit that he was like, oh, this is what I'm going to be known for now. 0.99

00:36:54.000 Now everyone's going to try to heckle me because they want to create a moment where I'm fucking trashing everybody. 0.69

00:37:00.000 But, of course, he went on to be known for a lot of other stuff because he just kept being so good at comedy. 0.96

00:37:07.000 But, yeah, no, I remember.

00:37:09.000 That was on the Opie and Anthony tour, and it was one of the greatest.

00:37:14.000 You guys, if you haven't seen it, go check it out.

00:37:17.000 It's all over the Internet.

00:37:18.000 It's such a great comedian riff meltdown thing.

00:37:23.000 It's just amazing.

00:37:23.000 And it also speaks volumes because if you've ever been to Philadelphia, for those that haven't been, they're one of the worst crowds, man.

00:37:31.000 This city is fucking strange. 0.99

00:37:33.000 Whether they win or they lose, the city's getting fucked up. 1.00

00:37:36.000 I almost lived there anyway. 0.99

00:37:38.000 They're some of the most passionate but toxic fans ever.

00:37:42.000 I don't know what it is. 1.00

00:37:44.000 Maybe it's the fucking water or some shit in the Schuylkill River. 1.00

00:37:47.000 But something is off over there where they will destroy their city no matter what. 1.00

00:37:52.000 Some of my best friends are born and raised in Philadelphia, and even they will agree when I say they are garbage people, man. 0.99

00:38:01.000 I mean, I love Philly. 1.00

00:38:02.000 It's a great city, but garbage. 1.00

00:38:06.000 Yeah, it sucks, man. 1.00

00:38:07.000 It really sucks. 1.00

00:38:08.000 And it's still one of the few cities that, like, holds on to some of its roots. 0.98

00:38:11.000 So, like, South Philly is still super Italian, right? 0.98

00:38:14.000 North Philly still sucks. 0.95

00:38:16.000 Yeah, I don't know. 0.98

00:38:17.000 It is what it is because I spent a good amount of time there.

00:38:20.000 But no, so I guess let's switch on over to, like, the politics.

00:38:24.000 You mentioned that you really started getting into politics 2007-2008.

00:38:28.000 What prompted you to get in?

00:38:30.000 Was it Obama's speeches at the time?

00:38:32.000 Because I remember he was taking over.

00:38:33.000 He was the cool person back then.

00:38:35.000 Was it your like or dislike of Bush?

00:38:38.000 What made you really get into politics as a comedian?

00:38:42.000 Okay, so I actually really liked George W. Bush right after September 11th, when he came to New York City, and he gave that bullhorn speech,

00:38:58.000 if you guys have ever seen it.

00:39:00.000 Legendary.

00:39:01.000 Dude, when he said, he goes to all the people in New York, we hear you.

00:39:08.000 And he said, like, we hear you, and Washington, D.C. hears you, and pretty soon, the people who knock these towers down, they're gonna hear from you as well. 0.99

00:39:17.000 And I was like, yo, that, I mean, I was 18 at the time, I was like, yo, that is my fucking president. 0.99

00:39:24.000 I love this guy. 0.99

00:39:25.000 I mean, I was like, I was so on board with like, oh, these, like these motherfuckers hit us and they have no idea who they just hit. 0.99

00:39:35.000 Like, we're the toughest killers in the history of the world. 1.00

00:39:38.000 We're going to go get all these guys. 1.00

00:39:39.000 So I was like totally on board at that point, but just a kid, like an idiot. 1.00

00:39:43.000 I didn't know anything. 1.00

00:39:44.000 And then...

00:39:47.000 Fast forward to like, there was like a few years later, and it was after he had already invaded Iraq, and we had been bogged down in Afghanistan for a while, and it was like, what?

00:39:58.000 We're trying to overthrow the Taliban?

00:39:59.000 And why are we fighting Saddam Hussein?

00:40:02.000 And then there was one press conference where someone asked him, they were like, hey, you know, it's been forever, and you still haven't gotten Osama bin Laden.

00:40:11.000 And, you know, like, what's up with that?

00:40:14.000 And he said, you guys go find this.

00:40:16.000 It's been a long time since I watched this video, but I'm not far off.

00:40:19.000 He said, essentially, like, I don't really care.

00:40:23.000 It's not even something I think about.

00:40:25.000 Like, I'm focused on other things.

00:40:27.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:40:27.000 And I remember seeing that, and it was like, yo, I hope you fucking burn in hell, dude. 1.00

00:40:34.000 Like, really, motherfucker? 1.00

00:40:35.000 You came here after we got hit and promised us that you were going to go get these motherfuckers, and now you're telling me you don't even care, but you actually had some totally separate beef, because, like, something with your dad being an attempted assassination or something like that is what I knew at the time, 1.00

00:40:54.000 you know? 0.99

00:40:55.000 And... 0.99

00:40:55.000 And so then I was like, screw him. 0.99

00:40:58.000 And I was rooting when the Democrats won the Congress back in 2006.

00:41:04.000 And then when Barack Obama started running, I was like, oh, OK, this guy seems really smart and charismatic and maybe he'll be kind of the next like JFK and he's totally against the Bushes.

00:41:15.000 And anyway, so then it was in it was in 2007.

00:41:18.000 I literally just happened to be watching the Republican presidential debate.

00:41:25.000 And I saw it was the Ron Paul versus Rudy Giuliani moment.

00:41:31.000 Do you guys know what that is?

00:41:34.000 Ron, no.

00:41:36.000 This is 07.

00:41:37.000 Yes.

00:41:38.000 Because I'm trying to think here.

00:41:40.000 Obama ran against McCain, right?

00:41:42.000 If I'm not mistaken.

00:41:43.000 Yes.

00:41:44.000 Okay, so this is in the Republican primaries before McCain had won it.

00:41:48.000 Okay?

00:41:49.000 Yep.

00:41:50.000 So this is the Republican primaries, and okay, so Rudy Giuliani had started that year's Republican primary as the frontrunner, and then ultimately he got knocked out, and then McCain ended up winning the nomination.

00:42:06.000 But Ron Paul was running for president that year, so he was one of the guys on the debate stage.

00:42:13.000 And he was a libertarian, but a Republican.

00:42:16.000 Like, you know, Rand Paul's father.

00:42:19.000 And like a Thomas Massey, Rand Paul type, you know, hardcore, but even more hardcore than them.

00:42:26.000 Like a hardcore libertarian, but who was a Republican in Texas.

00:42:30.000 Gotcha.

00:42:30.000 And so he gets up and he goes, and I really encourage you both and anyone in your audience to go watch this if you haven't already.

00:42:38.000 And maybe for the younger guys, it might be even tough to understand how crazy this was in 2007.

00:42:44.000 But so Ron Paul's up there.

00:42:46.000 And at the time, the line was, they hate us because we're free.

00:42:52.000 This is what This was the George W. Bush line. 0.97

00:42:56.000 Hey, the reason these Muslims hate you is because you're so free and so rich that they just want to blow you up because... 0.99

00:43:07.000 They're possessed by evil or something. 1.00

00:43:09.000 I don't know exactly what the logic was, but they just hate freedom and hate prosperity, so they want to kill you.

00:43:15.000 And so Ron Paul, this guy I'd never heard of before, he gets on stage and he goes, well, no, no, no.

00:43:21.000 Listen, let me tell you something.

00:43:23.000 The terrorists don't hate us because we're rich and we're free.

00:43:27.000 They hate us because we're over there.

00:43:31.000 They hate us because we're propping up Israel. 0.99

00:43:34.000 We're bombing Muslim countries. 1.00

00:43:36.000 We're propping up brutal dictators in Muslim countries. 1.00

00:43:39.000 Our sanctions are like starving their children to death. 0.99

00:43:43.000 This is why they hate us.

00:43:45.000 And he goes, now look.

00:43:47.000 We're never he said I think his exact words were he goes if you think we can go around the world doing whatever we want with no risk to us then we do that at our own peril and so he's going off on this and then Rudy Giuliani to get back to why I don't like him so much Rudy Giuliani interrupts him and he goes uh he goes you know You know,

00:44:12.000 I think Ron Paul should apologize for what he just said.

00:44:16.000 You know, I've heard a lot of ridiculous explanations for September 11th, and I've never heard anything like, we were bombing Iraq, and that's why 9-11 happened.

00:44:25.000 I've never heard anything like that.

00:44:27.000 Which is, by the way, was in Osama Bin Laden's, you know, letter to America, in his declaration of war against America, he specifically mentioned this. 0.99

00:44:37.000 So Rudy Giuliani was just bragging about having never heard Something that you probably should have heard if you know what the fuck you're talking about. 0.99

00:44:46.000 And then he goes... 0.99

00:44:48.000 Okay, so he gets thunderous applause for calling Ron Paul out.

00:44:53.000 And then he goes, I'd ask that Ron Paul apologize and tell us that he didn't really mean that.

00:44:59.000 And then that gets thunderous applause.

00:45:02.000 And then it goes back over to Ron Paul, and they're like, Ron Paul, would you like to apologize?

00:45:06.000 And Ron Paul just goes, okay...

00:45:11.000 I very sincerely believe that you know how the CIA coined this term called blowback?

00:45:17.000 Yeah.

00:45:17.000 Yeah, that's a real thing.

00:45:19.000 Blowback exists.

00:45:21.000 And he just goes through this whole history lesson where he was like, look, you want to know why Iran hates us?

00:45:27.000 It's because in 1953 our CIA overthrew their democratically elected government.

00:45:32.000 That's why they hate us. 1.00

00:45:34.000 Not because they're crazy Muslims. 1.00

00:45:36.000 Because we've been fucking with them. 1.00

00:45:38.000 And went through this whole thing, and whatever. 1.00

00:45:40.000 As soon as it was done, I was just like, yo, who the fuck was that guy? 1.00

00:45:46.000 I've never heard anyone in the political sphere ever just say some real shit the way he did. 0.99

00:45:53.000 And then it was just like, that was the spark. 0.96

00:45:56.000 And then I was like, okay, I want to read his book.

00:45:59.000 And then I just fell down the rabbit hole and got obsessed with this stuff.

00:46:04.000 You know, um, and I really do, because, um, I think it's very significant that he said that back then, because to question the war, to talk about geopolitical situations like this back then, when we were in the middle of invading Iraq,

00:46:21.000 etc., to question that back then was unprecedented and wildly ahead of its time.

00:46:27.000 Unheard of.

00:46:28.000 Now, right?

00:46:29.000 I mean, I think people are just waking up to the Iraq situation, like now, 2024, right? 0.76

00:46:35.000 Decades after the fact.

00:46:36.000 So for someone to call this out back then is crazy.

00:46:41.000 And let alone doing it on a national stage in front of everyone and saying, look, this is what it really is.

00:46:46.000 And I think more Americans are waking up to this now.

00:46:48.000 And it's interesting, right?

00:46:49.000 Because obviously it's the anniversary of 9-11.

00:46:52.000 And, you know, I remember when it first went down, you know, we were like, yeah, we're gonna go after everybody, you know, this is Osama, this is the axis of evil, etc. 0.90

00:47:00.000 Like, it was the most united time I've ever seen in the United States. 0.96

00:47:03.000 And that, the whole bullhorn comment that you made, yeah, like, people thought that was fucking awesome.

00:47:07.000 He's like, you know, you know, I hear you, America hears you, and the people that knocked these towers down are going to hear all of us. 0.63

00:47:14.000 And I remember the day when it happened, he addressed the country.

00:47:18.000 And to this day, I still use that as an example whenever I tell guys the definition of controlling frame and being a leader.

00:47:25.000 His address to the United States right after 9-11, I think, was probably one of the best examples of leading during one of the most turbulent times in our nation's history.

00:47:34.000 Well, but look, I mean...

00:47:36.000 It also shows you, like, why is that so powerful?

00:47:41.000 And I think that if you really understand that, in a weird way, it makes you understand Ron Paul's point.

00:47:49.000 You know, it's like, if you understand that, like, look, after 9-11, if an American leader stands up and goes, let me tell you something.

00:48:00.000 I'm gonna protect you from another 9-11 ever happening, and you know how we're gonna do it? 1.00

00:48:05.000 And maybe they don't say these exact words, but they go, we're gonna go kill all these motherfuckers over there. 1.00

00:48:11.000 You know, it's very easy to go, yes. 1.00

00:48:15.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

00:48:16.000 You know? 1.00

00:48:17.000 And like, I think that there was something about that to me that I, it was always very easy for me to kind of understand that like, you know, like put yourself in this situation. 0.93

00:48:28.000 If someone you loved got killed in front of you, it's not that hard to imagine that you'd be like, well, I want to go kill all of these guys.

00:48:38.000 But then, okay.

00:48:39.000 So extrapolate that out to other conflicts. 0.99

00:48:43.000 And then even just the same thing, it's like, okay, well, why do these Muslim terrorists want to come kill you? 0.99

00:48:50.000 For the same reasons. 0.99

00:48:52.000 For the exact same reasons.

00:48:53.000 Because some bomb blew up over there and their friend got killed.

00:48:57.000 And they were like, well, I'm ready.

00:48:58.000 And why is it that so many people in Iraq Yeah. 0.99

00:49:11.000 Yeah.

00:49:23.000 This isn't the final analysis.

00:49:26.000 This doesn't justify any of these actions, but it's a pretty good starting point to at least go like, okay, I can understand why someone in that situation could get there pretty easily.

00:49:38.000 Yeah.

00:49:38.000 You know?

00:49:39.000 So, did you have something fresh?

00:49:40.000 Yeah, so it's crazy because the government lied, basically, about what the issue was, and they put blame on these people overseas.

00:49:48.000 And couldn't find out, speaking of today on 9-11, we know who the real culprit was behind it.

00:49:54.000 Yeah, and we'll definitely...

00:49:55.000 Well, wait a minute, who's that?

00:49:59.000 Well, from what we've been told, what we've seen, and discovered, Meyer knows the answer. 1.00

00:50:06.000 Bro, what the fuck? 0.99

00:50:09.000 Alright. 1.00

00:50:09.000 We'll talk about 9-11 here in a second. 1.00

00:50:11.000 Sure, sure.

00:50:13.000 But I was going to ask you, so that kind of got you going down the rabbit hole.

00:50:18.000 Can you explain to the people What the libertarian perspective is and what some of your guys' viewpoints are, because, you know, we've seen over the past 10 years, you know, the Overwood Ten Window kind of shift.

00:50:29.000 Like, someone that was a liberal 10 years ago now is considered alt-right, you know, because the left has gone so far left.

00:50:36.000 So, what would you, can you just explain to people, like, what a libertarian is, what your views are now in 2024, generally speaking, and, yeah.

00:50:45.000 Sure.

00:50:45.000 So, like, I would just first say that in the same way, like, libertarian, and I think for a while, maybe I was kind of fighting for that word.

00:50:55.000 Like, that means what I say it means.

00:50:59.000 But I... Ultimately, look, in the same way that you're like, what does a liberal believe?

00:51:06.000 Or what does a conservative believe?

00:51:08.000 If you were to say, what does a conservative believe?

00:51:11.000 You could get a self-described conservative who would say, a conservative believes supporting Israel no matter what.

00:51:18.000 And then you could get other conservatives who say a conservative means never sending any U.S. tax dollars to any other country.

00:51:26.000 So, you know, just a quick preface, like a lot of other people could have definitions of what a libertarian means.

00:51:32.000 To me, what a libertarian means is fundamentally that people have natural rights to That people have the right to live their life.

00:51:45.000 They have the right to life, liberty, and property, and they have a right to live their life and do what they want as long as they do not violate the rights of others, impose their will on others.

00:51:56.000 And then, more broadly, politically speaking, it would be a belief that government should be as limited as possible, that We should be as non-interventionist in every sense of the word, whether that's domestically or in terms of foreign policy,

00:52:15.000 that America's role ought to be to keep our people as free as possible and to intervene as little as possible within domestic or foreign affairs.

00:52:30.000 So in other words, domestically speaking, I think we're good to go.

00:52:54.000 We should defend ourselves and destroy our enemy or even prevent an attack from happening.

00:53:01.000 But we should not be in the business of taking care of people from cradle to grave at home.

00:53:07.000 We should not be in the business of welfare and education and healthcare and everything else.

00:53:15.000 And we also, in terms of foreign policy, we should not be in the business of policing the world and propping up this This dictator and overthrowing this dictator or propping up this democratically elected government and overthrowing this democratically elected government,

00:53:30.000 that all of that is just not the proper role for government.

00:53:34.000 That would be like broad strokes, what I would say.

00:53:37.000 Gotcha.

00:53:37.000 Now, what are some of your takes on this stuff?

00:53:41.000 Where do you stand?

00:53:42.000 And I'll kind of just go into some of the more common issues that everyone talks about.

00:53:47.000 What's your take on immigration?

00:53:50.000 Okay, so I would say, and both my personal take and the libertarian take, essentially, is I actually think that Tucker Carlson had this analogy that was like the perfect libertarian explanation of immigration,

00:54:08.000 even though I think Tucker would have said that he...

00:54:12.000 He wouldn't have thought of it that way, and I think he was actually a bit hostile to libertarians when he said this.

00:54:18.000 But his thing was he said, I love having dinner parties.

00:54:24.000 I'm really into dinner parties, which, by the way, I like that a lot too.

00:54:28.000 I like having some people over to my house.

00:54:31.000 You got like 12 or 15 people over to your house, and you have dinner, and you have some drinks, and everybody has a good conversation.

00:54:37.000 And he goes, but I get to choose who comes to my house.

00:54:43.000 Otherwise, it's not really a dinner party, is it?

00:55:13.000 I mean, debatably the most out-of-control open-border situation that I've ever heard of.

00:55:21.000 And I think I would support anything that would immediately clamp down on that.

00:55:27.000 Yeah, it's really bad.

00:55:28.000 I had a Border Patrol agent on my show literally a couple days ago.

00:55:31.000 And I used to work in immigration myself when I worked for the government.

00:55:35.000 And when he was telling me what's going on at the border... 0.58

00:55:38.000 It's absolutely crazy and ludicrous, and the American public doesn't know.

00:55:43.000 I've never seen a border crisis this bad. 0.69

00:55:45.000 So you're for it, but it's got to be extremely selective.

00:55:49.000 Abortion slash reproductive rights, where do you stand there? 1.00

00:55:53.000 I'm pro-life.

00:55:54.000 You're pro-life.

00:55:56.000 Would you say that that deviates a little bit from the libertarian sense, where they're kind of like, hey, you should be able to have pro-choice?

00:56:03.000 No, I mean, look, in the same way that I was saying with conservatives, like who, say, being a conservative means supporting Israel or being a conservative means supporting Ukraine or something like that.

00:56:14.000 No, I would just, look, I actually was pro-choice for most of my life without ever really thinking about it.

00:56:24.000 Gotcha.

00:56:24.000 And then I kind of, I started re-questioning that.

00:56:29.000 For a while.

00:56:31.000 Because I heard some really good pro-life arguments.

00:56:34.000 And then it was the birth of my first child.

00:56:39.000 Since the day my oldest was born, I've never once thought about it again.

00:56:44.000 And I'm very strongly pro-life.

00:56:47.000 And really the experience, which I'm sure if there's dads who are listening to this, they can understand where I'm coming from. 0.92

00:56:57.000 The real experience was just holding my daughter the first day she was born and realizing, which, you know, because I'm a big dumb monkey, like a lot of us are, and I never really realized until I held that little girl in my arms and I had to have this dumb monkey thought where I was like, 0.95

00:57:15.000 wow. 0.98

00:57:16.000 What I'm holding right now was just inside my wife's tummy. 1.00

00:57:20.000 And that was the same thing that, like, a week ago or two weeks ago, I was just, you know...

00:57:26.000 And it's so almost like...

00:57:30.000 Simple.

00:57:32.000 So like with my first, my daughter was, she was a week overdue or whatever, like she was a week past my wife's due date, and my son was three weeks early.

00:57:44.000 And the reason my daughter was born was because they induced my wife. 0.99

00:57:49.000 They don't really let you go that way.

00:57:57.000 Yeah.

00:57:59.000 Yeah.

00:58:08.000 It's totally arbitrary that she came out today and now she's a baby.

00:58:14.000 Tell me, three weeks ago she was still my baby.

00:58:18.000 I didn't just have a baby today.

00:58:19.000 I've had a baby for a while.

00:58:21.000 It's just been inside my wife.

00:58:22.000 And once I realized that, it was almost just like the logical conclusion was inevitable.

00:58:28.000 And you're like, oh, you could actually take this all the way back to conception.

00:58:31.000 The point is you can't kill babies.

00:58:33.000 That's just not right.

00:58:34.000 So that was it for me.

00:58:36.000 So for you, there's no time limit.

00:58:37.000 Like at inception, like, you know, because I know in Florida, I think it's up to six weeks if I'm not mistaken.

00:58:42.000 So for you, it's like, no, it's at inception.

00:58:45.000 It's no matter what.

00:58:46.000 Yes, but I also, at the same time, that's what I believe, but I also am a pragmatist.

00:58:52.000 So, like, if abortion was legal in wherever the jurisdiction that you are is, and then someone proposed a six-week ban, I wouldn't be like, no, that's not good enough.

00:59:02.000 We need a zero-week ban.

00:59:03.000 Like, okay, better a six-week ban than no ban at all.

00:59:07.000 But yes, my position, I do think there should be exceptions.

00:59:12.000 Like, there are extraordinary cases where, like, If they detect some type of horrible genetic disease in the baby, and the baby's only going to live for two years if it comes out or something like that,

00:59:28.000 then I think it's reasonable to say it's the parent's decision what they want to do.

00:59:32.000 In the same way that I'm against murder, but if you had a family member who's about to die a very painful death, and they were like, I'd rather be put out of my misery, I think that should be legal to do.

00:59:44.000 Like, I do believe in some exceptions.

00:59:46.000 Yeah, of course.

00:59:46.000 But generally speaking, I'm pro-life.

00:59:49.000 Okay.

00:59:49.000 Dave, real quick.

00:59:50.000 I'm going to call some names.

00:59:51.000 Give me your honest opinion.

00:59:53.000 Sure.

00:59:54.000 Cannazoans. 0.99

00:59:56.000 Love her.

00:59:56.000 I just absolutely love Candace Owens.

00:59:59.000 And she's someone who...

01:00:02.000 Okay, I will confess, I had totally misjudged before I knew her.

01:00:10.000 Really?

01:00:10.000 And I think...

01:00:12.000 So she had a clip on Joe Rogan's podcast...

01:00:17.000 Like, years ago, where she really stumbled over the climate change issue.

01:00:24.000 And I remember seeing it and going kind of like, ah, come on, man.

01:00:29.000 Like, you didn't know what you were talking about.

01:00:31.000 She said it was fake.

01:00:32.000 I remember.

01:00:32.000 And just kind of dismissing her.

01:00:34.000 And then...

01:00:36.000 When she started taking the stand that she was taking at the Daily Wire after October 7th, I was just so impressed by that.

01:00:46.000 And I was like, wow, that's really something that she would do that.

01:00:50.000 And then I went and I did her show.

01:00:53.000 It was the first time I ever met her.

01:00:55.000 She was still on the Daily Wire.

01:00:57.000 It was toward the end of it, though.

01:01:00.000 And I remember as I sat down with her and we just talked, you know, we did the show and then we talked for like another hour or so after.

01:01:07.000 And I remember I was just like, wow, I actually think she's really smart and really like genuine and just a cool person.

01:01:16.000 And she's been just nothing but cool to me since then.

01:01:19.000 So I just have nothing but good things to say about Candace Owens.

01:01:22.000 And it was a lesson in like, don't don't judge people too quickly.

01:01:26.000 Yeah.

01:01:27.000 No, and I definitely want to ask you about some other stuff concerning her too.

01:01:30.000 I just want to kind of get more of your political takes.

01:01:33.000 Alright, so we talked about immigration, abortion.

01:01:36.000 What's your stance on foreign policy?

01:01:39.000 um on foreign policy um like i said before i'm a complete non-interventionist i think that um america and and if if you look at almost unanimously and there were not too many things that the founders of america were unanimous on but one of them was that the whole role of america is that we're supposed to be a city on a hill you know and i i don't think We should be going around the world with all of these bullshit excuses about

01:02:09.000 how we're trying to spread freedom or democracy or any of this nonsense.

01:02:14.000 When everyone knows, what it always comes down to is what special interests want.

01:02:19.000 It's never about any of these ideological trying to help the people of that country.

01:02:27.000 I think in the same way that if you were ever...

01:02:32.000 Like, like, let's say if I were ever to say to you that I'm, you were like, hey, Dave, what are you working on?

01:02:39.000 And I was like, well, I'm working on, um, the house three doors down from me.

01:02:44.000 I'm really working on their marriage.

01:02:46.000 I'm trying to make sure that they have a really good marriage. 0.99

01:02:49.000 And you'd be like, wait, is your marriage fucking perfect? 0.99

01:02:53.000 Like, your marriage better be fucking perfect before you're going and working on someone else's marriage. 0.99

01:02:59.000 And so, that's almost my attitude. 0.97

01:03:01.000 It's like, hey, as soon as we perfect a free society here, and we have the freest and most prosperous society in America, then Maybe I'll listen to your arguments about how we have to go spread freedom to some other land.

01:03:16.000 But until then, I don't want to hear any of that.

01:03:18.000 So I don't want to hear anyone who's like, your marriage is falling apart, and you're saying you're going to go fix someone else's marriage.

01:03:25.000 We should be an example to the rest of the world about how great it is to be a free society.

01:03:33.000 And in a weird way, which I'm sure Like, almost everybody listening to this probably knows in their own life, in a weird way, that is always the best thing you can do for someone else.

01:03:44.000 Like, what's the best thing you could do for someone you really love?

01:03:48.000 Is it really that you could start micromanaging every part of their life? 0.89

01:03:52.000 Or is the best thing you could do, live your fucking life to the best you can and show them the example of that, and that's probably the best you could do for someone.

01:04:02.000 So, my foreign policy is strict non-interventionism, but total free trade. 0.80

01:04:07.000 Trade with the world, be friends with the world, have detente, but no fucking, you know, never fight a war unless you absolutely have to, and that means you're under threat.

01:04:19.000 Gotcha.

01:04:21.000 And that's actually a perfect segue into what I was going to ask you next about the conflicts that we're involved in now.

01:04:28.000 Which, real quick, guys, I want you to come on over to Twitch.

01:04:29.000 We're going to get off YouTube now.

01:04:31.000 So come on over to Twitch, guys.

01:04:32.000 We dropped the link in there, or Rumble, one of the two.

01:04:35.000 And we're going to continue to interview over there.

01:04:36.000 As you guys know, we're switching from live streaming on YouTube to Twitch predominantly.

01:04:39.000 So come on over, guys.

01:04:41.000 We're dropping a link in our YouTube and in our Rumble chat, whatever you guys may...

01:04:45.000 If you're watching on Rumble, just open up a tab on Twitch.

01:04:48.000 But yeah, so Dave, obviously right now we're, you know, got two different conflicts fighting on two different fronts, right?

01:04:55.000 You know, proxy wars, of course, with Israel and Russia.

01:04:58.000 And I remember watching you talk about the Russia-Ukraine conflict on Rogan, and I really liked your take on it.

01:05:05.000 So what's your thoughts on our conflict with Russia and Ukraine?

01:05:10.000 And how do you think we can get out of the situation that we're in?

01:05:13.000 Should we even be there in the first place?

01:05:15.000 I'll kind of just turn it to you and you can...

01:05:16.000 Speak generally about it.

01:05:17.000 But guys, come on over to Twitch right now.

01:05:18.000 We're gonna turn off the YouTube stream in the next few seconds.

01:05:22.000 I mean, look, the whole conflict with Ukraine, and I think you can...

01:05:33.000 Look, Vladimir Putin invaded the country, and once you invade a country, you are at least largely responsible for the death and carnage that comes from that.

01:05:48.000 And so I'm certainly not saying that he's completely innocent, but in the entire lead up to the war, She was totally coming from a reasonable position,

01:06:03.000 and Western policy did everything they could to provoke and continue to escalate this conflict.

01:06:14.000 On purpose.

01:06:15.000 Yes, yes, undeniably, intentionally, because they wanted to lure Russia into a war, because they wanted to try to bleed them dry. 0.66

01:06:25.000 And, you know, one thing I would just say, and, you know, I've done a lot of podcasts on this, you know, my very good friend who is...

01:06:33.000 I personally would say the greatest foreign policy expert in the United States of America, Scott Horton, whose books are phenomenal.

01:06:43.000 He wrote Fool's Errand, which was a book about Afghanistan, and Enough Already was a book about the terror wars, and he's working on a new book called Provoked.

01:06:53.000 And it's the whole story of what led up to the war in Ukraine.

01:06:57.000 And it is just...

01:06:59.000 I mean, from the collapse of the Soviet Union all the way up to Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine, it was American foreign policy to just poke and poke and poke at Vladimir Putin.

01:07:16.000 And to the point that it was all he was asking was that his neighboring country Would not be a member of America's military alliance, which is like the most reasonable ask that you could possibly have in terms of geopolitics.

01:07:34.000 And look, I'm not saying any of this is perfectly moral or anything like that.

01:07:39.000 And, you know, if people want to say, like, sometimes people will argue and they'll say like, well, Ukraine should be allowed to join any military alliance they want to.

01:07:48.000 It's like, Maybe.

01:07:50.000 Maybe they should be.

01:07:51.000 But, you know, is Mexico allowed to join any military alliance that they want to?

01:07:58.000 Are they really?

01:08:00.000 Like, do any of us really think that if China wanted to make a military alliance with Mexico, that Washington, D.C. would say, well...

01:08:11.000 They're allowed to join whatever they want to. 0.99

01:08:13.000 No, we'd overthrow their government in a fucking week. 1.00

01:08:17.000 Are you kidding me? 1.00

01:08:18.000 We would never tolerate that.

01:08:20.000 Jack Kennedy, when they put missiles in Cuba, said, I will blow up the world. 1.00

01:08:27.000 Are you out of your fucking mind? 0.99

01:08:29.000 You can't put missiles in Cuba, and then what was ultimately the deal, if you know the real history of it, Kennedy got on the phone with the Soviets, and we pulled our missiles out of Turkey, and they pulled their missiles out of Cuba. 1.00

01:08:42.000 And this is what the beef has always been about the entire time.

01:08:45.000 If you go back and look through the 2 plus 4 meetings in 1991, like all the initial meetings as the Soviet Union, or 1990, as the Soviet Union was unwinding, the whole The whole not one inch east.

01:09:00.000 The whole conversation was about like, okay, don't move your weapons closer to us.

01:09:06.000 That's been the beef since the entire Cold War.

01:09:10.000 Since the end of World War II, the whole beef has been whose weapons are moving closer to the other one.

01:09:16.000 And for us to decide that we're going to try to move our military hardware up to Russia's borders, Like, why the hell would we do that?

01:09:28.000 For what strategic gain? 0.93

01:09:30.000 And now it led to provoking this war, as it would if someone had done that to us, where like fucking hundreds of thousands of people have died. 0.99

01:09:39.000 It's just horrible. 0.97

01:09:40.000 And then at the same time, Americans who have been through, let's just say, You know, the last four years have been pretty rough years for most Americans, starting from the COVID lockdowns and all that shit, to the Biden years and all this, and the inflation and all that. 0.98

01:09:56.000 It's been rough years economically, and we're saying we're going to tax our own people to just keep this war going?

01:10:04.000 For what reason? 0.95

01:10:05.000 Oh, no one really ever has to fucking explain that? 0.96

01:10:08.000 It's just, it's horrible, and it should end immediately. 0.97

01:10:13.000 And major respect to you because I genuinely believe you're probably one of the first people to give that take on a huge fucking platform, right?

01:10:22.000 Like people, you know, there's guys out there that talk about this stuff, right, that aren't necessarily as big.

01:10:28.000 But for you to go on Rogan and talk about this and kind of aware the American masses of, hey...

01:10:32.000 Look, this has been a problem for a long time.

01:10:34.000 We've been encroaching on Moscow.

01:10:36.000 You know, Putin is actually, you know, obviously operating in a national security sense to protect this country.

01:10:41.000 And I love the analogy you use with Mexico, because I use that all the time, too.

01:10:43.000 Like, if China decided to put missiles in Mexico City, we'd be in there tomorrow. 0.99

01:10:48.000 We would literally get them the fuck out of there and overthrow that country. 1.00

01:10:51.000 So I find it interesting how we can exercise extreme, you know, force when necessary to protect our sovereignty, but other nations do it and they're considered, you know, evil. 0.98

01:11:01.000 Oh, go ahead.

01:11:02.000 Real quick.

01:11:02.000 We've got a hype train on Twitch right now.

01:11:04.000 Oh, shit, yeah. 0.99

01:11:04.000 Go support the hype train. 0.99

01:11:05.000 Yeah, guys, go support the hype train because obviously this is a pretty based conversation here.

01:11:09.000 So that's your take on Russia-Ukraine, which I 100% agree with as far as NATO was encroaching on Moscow and they had to make a move. 0.70

01:11:17.000 And then you got the Donbass and Crimea and how they were fighting all the time and their ethnic Russians anyway. 0.97

01:11:22.000 That's a whole thing.

01:11:24.000 What's your take on...

01:11:26.000 And I'm leading up to this because I want to get all your political takes and then we'll go into the debate yesterday.

01:11:30.000 Sure.

01:11:31.000 What is your take on, very controversial here, Israel, the war in Israel right now in Gaza?

01:11:39.000 I mean, it's just... 0.99

01:11:42.000 It's the worst goddamn thing in the world. 0.97

01:11:45.000 I mean, I don't know what to say. 0.99

01:11:48.000 It's been almost a full year of it.

01:11:50.000 And it is so much worse than even what Russia is doing to Ukraine.

01:11:56.000 And in many ways, it's so much worse than even what the US did to Iraq.

01:12:03.000 I mean, look, the people of Gaza are... 0.98

01:12:10.000 A captive people.

01:12:12.000 They've been controlled by Israel since 1967.

01:12:18.000 And it's not even just that they've been controlled by Israel since 1967, right?

01:12:22.000 A huge proportion of these people were driven out by the creation of Israel in 1947-48.

01:12:32.000 And now you have almost a situation where, in a sense, you have to think of this...

01:12:40.000 Okay, so Israel's been controlling Gaza since 1967, after they created the refugee crisis that sent all the refugees there in very late 1947-1948,

01:12:56.000 okay?

01:12:57.000 But so, you could kind of get away with...

01:13:02.000 Maybe you occupy a territory for like six months after a war.

01:13:06.000 Maybe even like two years after a war.

01:13:09.000 But if you're telling me since 1967 you've controlled these people and there's Hasbro, Zionist talking points that'll be something like, well, we pulled out in 2005. 0.99

01:13:23.000 That's all a bunch of bullshit. 0.92

01:13:25.000 Yes, they pulled out from militarily occupying the area and just surrounded it and controlled everything about it. 0.99

01:13:32.000 But since 1967, Israel has controlled Gaza.

01:13:37.000 And...

01:13:38.000 Once you recognize that, you realize that the standard by which Israel should be treated is almost like these are kind of your own people.

01:13:48.000 You know, like maybe you don't view them as your own people, but in the same way that like How would you view slaves in America in 1820?

01:14:03.000 Those are your people.

01:14:05.000 If you have control of them, then you have responsibility for them.

01:14:09.000 And so I think almost the way Israel's assault on Gaza should be viewed is kind of like if If like the Bloods or the Crips in Chicago broke out of the South Side and went and killed a few white families in some nice Chicago neighborhood, 0.64

01:14:30.000 and then the response from the Chicago police was to bomb the South Side. 0.99

01:14:38.000 Just fucking slaughter all of the people there. 1.00

01:14:42.000 That's our response. 1.00

01:14:44.000 We don't have to go in there.

01:14:46.000 We don't have to negotiate.

01:14:47.000 We don't have to do special operations missions.

01:14:50.000 We don't have to do undercover work.

01:14:52.000 We're just gonna light the whole place up.

01:14:55.000 And then we'll figure it out. 0.99

01:14:56.000 How many women and children are we gonna kill? 1.00

01:14:59.000 10,000? 1.00

01:15:00.000 100,000?

01:15:01.000 I don't know.

01:15:02.000 Something like that.

01:15:04.000 Who knows?

01:15:04.000 And then like that.

01:15:05.000 So first of all, I think it's like the worst thing in the world and substantially worse in some way than just attacking another country.

01:15:14.000 It's more akin to killing your own people in your country.

01:15:20.000 And then on top of that, America is forced to pay for the thing and arm the thing and fund the thing and then on top of that American politicians aren't even allowed to criticize it or there'll be millions of dollars that are spent against you in your next political campaign and you know the only way you're ever going to be able to really maintain serious power is if you go over there and like cry in front of their wall

01:15:50.000 or something like that and so You know, I don't know. 0.89

01:15:53.000 I mean, we could talk about this for hours, but it's like how I feel is it's just the fucking most appalling thing in the history of the world. 0.64

01:16:00.000 And like, how can any of us, how can anyone not see that? 0.92

01:16:05.000 Yeah.

01:16:05.000 No, it's crazy how AIPAC runs our entire political structure.

01:16:11.000 And if you don't appeal to AIPAC, you're not going to get elected.

01:16:14.000 They literally brag about it on their website.

01:16:15.000 And the fact that they don't have to register into Farah is wild.

01:16:19.000 And that's a whole other rabbit hole, how that came to be.

01:16:22.000 But okay.

01:16:23.000 And then what about your take on inflation right now as it sits?

01:16:30.000 Well, I... Okay, so that's a whole...

01:16:32.000 These are all real...

01:16:33.000 By the way, every one of these topics, we could do like a whole podcast on any one of them, you know?

01:16:38.000 It's leading up because I was going to ask you about the debate next.

01:16:41.000 Sure, sure.

01:16:41.000 So I'll just say this quickly about inflation, okay?

01:16:45.000 I think...

01:16:46.000 I think there's a huge misunderstanding amongst the laymen about what inflation even is.

01:16:56.000 And that, you know, a lot of people kind of think that inflation is when prices go up.

01:17:04.000 But that's not really true.

01:17:06.000 Like, strictly speaking, there is what people call price inflation.

01:17:10.000 But if anyone's listening who's in finance at all or something like that, if you were taking your Series 6 test or your Series 7 or your Series 63 or something like that, and if there was a multiple choice and they said, what is inflation, and you said rising prices,

01:17:27.000 you'd get that answer wrong, right?

01:17:29.000 That's not what inflation is.

01:17:30.000 What inflation really is, is an increase in the money supply, an increase in the amount of money and credit that's chasing the same amount of goods.

01:17:43.000 And so, just for example, and I know this is all in theory and stuff, but I think it's important.

01:17:52.000 Let's say that you lived in a society where prices were about to collapse.

01:18:00.000 Like, I don't know why.

01:18:01.000 Maybe, you know, your whole economy is like picking apples, and then you came up with a machine that picks apples way quicker.

01:18:10.000 And so now you're like, oh, the cost of apples is going to collapse.

01:18:13.000 But then you print a ton of money, and the price of apples stays exactly the same.

01:18:18.000 Now, you could say there's been no inflation because the prices haven't gone up.

01:18:23.000 They've stayed exactly the same.

01:18:24.000 But the truth is they were supposed to collapse.

01:18:27.000 And then your money printing is what kept them at the same level.

01:18:31.000 So you've still robbed from the people, you know, like they were supposed to get a way cheaper Apple.

01:18:37.000 And now they got to pay the same amount for it.

01:18:40.000 So likewise that or so as follows from that.

01:18:44.000 The money printing is what creates the inflation.

01:18:47.000 And the reason why prices have been going up, and this is one of the reasons why, like, you know, Donald Trump is very largely responsible for this.

01:18:57.000 It's not as simple as the Biden inflation.

01:18:59.000 In 2020, they printed, like...

01:19:10.000 Almost like 50% of the money circulation was printed in those years that you described, almost 50% of the money in circulation.

01:19:20.000 Yeah, it's insane. 0.96

01:19:22.000 I mean, it's like, and then people go, why the fuck is everything so goddamn expensive? 0.96

01:19:27.000 It's like, well, what do you think this is, man? 0.97

01:19:28.000 It's supply and demand.

01:19:29.000 You're trading dollars for products.

01:19:32.000 Well, what do you think?

01:19:34.000 What would happen if we made more of the products?

01:19:37.000 Oh yeah, they'd be cheaper.

01:19:38.000 What would happen if we made more of the dollars?

01:19:40.000 They'd be more expensive.

01:19:42.000 And so that's what's happening. 0.99

01:19:43.000 And it's like, it's the worst fucking scam in the world. 0.99

01:19:47.000 The whole goddamn central bank model and the Federal Reserve, which is our central bank, is they're literally, they just print money out of thin air and all they're doing is robbing from you. 0.99

01:19:57.000 Like essentially, there's no difference between me Like if the entire economy was me and you, Myron, and I could just print money, there's no difference between me printing it and taking it out of your bank account. 0.98

01:20:12.000 Now, when there's 300 million people or whatever, okay, it's not just yours, but still the same thing is printing money is just taking it from you. 0.98

01:20:20.000 It's the same fucking thing. 0.99

01:20:22.000 They might as well just be robbing you. 0.99

01:20:24.000 So inflation is all about the money supply, and that's all about central banks.

01:20:30.000 And central banks are the enemy of the human race.

01:20:34.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:20:35.000 Every civilization that's used central banking has pretty much fallen at some point.

01:20:41.000 Dave, who runs the banks?

01:20:43.000 The central banks?

01:20:45.000 Well, is that a setup for the Jews who run the central banks? 0.95

01:20:51.000 The actual people, I think it's the member banks, and I don't know, go read a creature from Jekyll Island, but it's like, yeah, essentially the most powerful industrialists, not all of them Jews, but some of them, they're the ones who kind of came up with this whole scheme. 0.90

01:21:08.000 I agree.

01:21:10.000 So we talked about, okay, foreign policy, oh, I think I know your stance on this one, but just so the audience knows, Second Amendment, where do you stand with it?

01:21:18.000 Like a...

01:21:20.000 A total absolutist.

01:21:22.000 Okay.

01:21:22.000 I mean, I think there might be a point where, like, if we could get into, like, should you be allowed to have nuclear weapons in your garage?

01:21:29.000 And I might say, like, you might have to have some, like, it might have to be up to code.

01:21:34.000 But every weapon you could think of, I want people to be able to own.

01:21:39.000 No bans at all.

01:21:39.000 Okay.

01:21:40.000 So absolutists with the Second Amendment.

01:21:43.000 So, okay, now that we kind of know your stances with, you know, some of the hot-button topics, did you watch the debate last night?

01:21:50.000 Yeah, I sure did.

01:21:52.000 You did?

01:21:52.000 Okay, so I definitely want to get your take on it and have you break it down.

01:21:55.000 You guys want me to reach out real quick?

01:21:56.000 Can I play my game real quick with Dave?

01:21:58.000 You want to play?

01:21:59.000 Okay.

01:21:59.000 Just real quick.

01:21:59.000 Yeah, we started and we only did Candace Owens.

01:22:02.000 Oh, okay, okay, okay.

01:22:03.000 So here's some names here. 0.94

01:22:04.000 Well, I was going to get into Candace Owens after and the censorship and shit, but that's fine. 0.52

01:22:07.000 It's a quick fun game with the audience, too. 0.97

01:22:08.000 All right, go ahead.

01:22:08.000 So Dave, we mentioned Candace Owens.

01:22:10.000 What about Nick Cuentes?

01:22:11.000 Honest thoughts. 1.00

01:22:13.000 Bastard. 0.99

01:22:16.000 Um, Nick, uh... 0.88

01:22:18.000 I think Nick is an incredibly talented broadcaster or whatever.

01:22:27.000 I think that makes me sound old when I say broadcaster, but streamer?

01:22:31.000 Streamer, yeah.

01:22:32.000 Sure.

01:22:33.000 I think an incredible talent.

01:22:36.000 Okay.

01:22:36.000 Have you seen the beef back and forth between Candice and Nick on X? Yeah, I think I've been a part of it.

01:22:43.000 Yeah, you're in the dab middle.

01:22:45.000 I don't see why specifically, but I get his gripe review.

01:22:50.000 Do you think it could be resolved?

01:22:53.000 Sure, yeah.

01:22:55.000 Look, I mean, nothing's happened between me and Nick that's so serious that it couldn't be resolved.

01:23:01.000 But I don't know that it will.

01:23:03.000 I mean, I don't particularly care to resolve it or not resolve it.

01:23:07.000 It's not like...

01:23:08.000 Me and Nick weren't, like, friends.

01:23:10.000 Like, I've never met him.

01:23:12.000 I've met him the same way we're meeting each other right now.

01:23:15.000 Like, I've never been in the same room as him.

01:23:17.000 But I don't...

01:23:19.000 You know, I've had, like...

01:23:22.000 people who I really fucking hated and I think Nick's probably had people he's really fucking hated and I don't really think either of us are that for each other I think that um Nick was uh how do you how do you African-Americans say it I think he was out of pocket the way he came at me am I using that am I using that correctly? 0.85

01:23:50.000 I think it was it was lame the way he came at me and it didn't really make any sense but whatever I don't you know I don't know I also I you know and look I gotta be honest man like I really my focus is on I mean, 0.96

01:24:08.000 look, my focus is on, like, my family and my career, and then my focus is always, at least I try to be on, like, what really matters.

01:24:16.000 Right.

01:24:17.000 Like, what really matters.

01:24:18.000 So what really matters is, like, what's going on in the war that's happening right now?

01:24:23.000 Like, what's going on in our economy?

01:24:25.000 What's going on with the state of our country?

01:24:27.000 What's going on?

01:24:27.000 You know what I mean?

01:24:28.000 Yeah.

01:24:28.000 And, like, I don't.

01:24:31.000 I don't exactly know what the beef with Nick and Candace is.

01:24:35.000 I will say from what I've seen of it, it seems to me pretty wild that With the developments of the last few months, Nick would decide to start coming at Candice and me like this.

01:24:52.000 It does make me go like, dude, what do you actually care about?

01:24:56.000 What's really your motivation here?

01:24:59.000 And as far as the last little bit that I saw was Candice's last show, where I guess Nick had kind of indicated that...

01:25:07.000 Candace has been listening to his show forever and that's how she got this information and that he knows some shit about her and Candace is like that's just none of that's true.

01:25:18.000 I tend to believe her on that, but I don't really know. 0.91

01:25:22.000 I don't know what the situation is.

01:25:24.000 Okay.

01:25:26.000 Ben Shapiro.

01:25:27.000 Oh, I can't stand Ben Shapiro.

01:25:31.000 And you know why I really can't stand Ben Shapiro?

01:25:35.000 I don't actually know how old you guys are, but I think I'm a few years older than you guys.

01:25:41.000 I'm 41.

01:25:43.000 I told you guys, I got real into the Ron Paul campaigns in 2008, and then he ran for president again in 2012, and I remember how Viciously Ben Shapiro attacked Ron Paul, who is, at this point, by the way, this is many years later,

01:25:59.000 but I've met Ron Paul many times, and I've been on his show, and I've interviewed him on my show, and I've just been at a lot of events with him.

01:26:06.000 I know his family. 0.99

01:26:08.000 We have a lot of friends in common, and he's just, to me, the goddamn... 0.99

01:26:14.000 I mean, I just can't explain it. 0.94

01:26:15.000 Like, he's the greatest living American hero to me.

01:26:18.000 Just like the greatest person.

01:26:20.000 And Ben Shapiro viciously attacked him.

01:26:23.000 Viciously attacked him as like a Jew hater, as like an alt-right anti-Semite for nothing.

01:26:34.000 I'm sure what you guys do know is kind of about how the culture of the internet today.

01:26:41.000 If you think about the most hardcore, trolly, blood sports, edgelord culture of the internet today, there was nothing like this in 2008 or 2012.

01:26:54.000 And Ron Paul is like He's in his 90s right now.

01:26:58.000 He is a conservative Christian country doctor who's never been a part of it, has never said a mean slur in his word.

01:27:08.000 He's just nothing but a gentleman.

01:27:11.000 And Ben Shapiro viciously attacked him. 0.98

01:27:14.000 So I've fucking hated Ben Shapiro since longer. 0.98

01:27:17.000 Anybody listening to this show who hates Ben Shapiro, I hate Ben Shapiro so much better than you hate Ben Shapiro. 0.99

01:27:24.000 You have no idea.

01:27:25.000 I've hated him forever. 0.99

01:27:27.000 And I've always seen him as a guy who's like, whatever the other shit he says is, what he really cares about It's foreign policy. 0.99

01:27:39.000 There's a lot of people like that in American politics who like they may really say, you know, you know, Dick Cheney and Bill Kristol and all these people who are like supporting Kamala Harris now, they would have been on the other side. 0.92

01:27:54.000 And I remember when they were in 2004.

01:27:57.000 They were trying to say the wedge issue in the presidential election then was like gay marriage.

01:28:05.000 So George W. Bush said that he was going to pass a constitutional amendment to make sure that marriage was between a man and a woman.

01:28:12.000 And all of the neocons got on his side about it.

01:28:16.000 You know?

01:28:16.000 Because they just wanted to keep...

01:28:17.000 They thought that was a way to trick the rubes to get him re-elected. 0.77

01:28:21.000 And so they'll be on that side of the culture war or this side of the culture war. 0.99

01:28:26.000 They don't really give a shit. 0.99

01:28:27.000 They just want to keep the wars going. 0.99

01:28:28.000 That's all they care about. 1.00

01:28:30.000 And fuck all those guys. 1.00

01:28:32.000 Last two. 1.00

01:28:32.000 The neocons. 1.00

01:28:33.000 Destiny.

01:28:34.000 The streamer.

01:28:35.000 False on him.

01:28:38.000 I don't know, man.

01:28:39.000 I don't really have too many thoughts on Destiny.

01:28:41.000 I think he's made a bunch of videos about me.

01:28:46.000 Literally, the only time I ever talk about Destiny is like this, when someone asks me a question about Destiny.

01:28:54.000 Okay, so I would say this.

01:28:58.000 He's been making these videos being very insulting to me, and I've seen a couple of them.

01:29:03.000 I've seen them, yeah.

01:29:04.000 I guess I would say that I find Destiny to be an incredibly bizarre person who, like, and look, I don't even mean this the wrong way, Destiny.

01:29:19.000 If you're listening to this, I'm sure you'll make another video about this.

01:29:22.000 It's not saying one of us is right and one of us is wrong.

01:29:25.000 I'm saying we are oil and vinegar.

01:29:28.000 Whoever you are as a man makes me go, ugh, I don't want to be around that.

01:29:36.000 And I'm sure you feel the same way about me.

01:29:38.000 That's fine.

01:29:40.000 I have every...

01:29:41.000 Everything that I've seen of Destiny, which hasn't been much, I always feel like he just doesn't come off to me as a guy who is genuine.

01:29:51.000 He comes off to me as a guy who's trying to, like, win the next...

01:29:57.000 Round in a tennis match and trying to like outsmart you with this latest thing that he's said, none of which I find to be particularly smart.

01:30:07.000 It's fine.

01:30:08.000 I think he's been lobbying to debate me forever.

01:30:11.000 I think I agreed to debate him once and then the people setting it up wanted me to switch the debate, so I switched it.

01:30:18.000 Like, I don't...

01:30:20.000 I don't know.

01:30:22.000 I'm very unimpressed by him, and I just don't like what he does.

01:30:29.000 So I'd kind of like to just not be around it, if that makes sense.

01:30:34.000 Perfect.

01:30:34.000 Last one.

01:30:35.000 I'll let you go. 0.99

01:30:36.000 This guy's derailed my whole fucking line of questioning. 1.00

01:30:37.000 Top G! Andrew Tate. 0.99

01:30:38.000 Thoughts on Andrew Tate.

01:30:41.000 Honestly, I don't know enough about Andrew Tate to really have an opinion on him.

01:30:47.000 What I could say is this.

01:30:49.000 It's like...

01:30:50.000 I think that...

01:30:53.000 Andrew Tate is a phenomenon for a reason, and I think that he's an archetype of a male figure that I think a lot of young men always innately aspire to be. 0.97

01:31:15.000 Like, you aspire to be the guy who's, like, dominant, like a kickboxer with the best fucking car. 0.96

01:31:21.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

01:31:23.000 And especially in today's environment that is so dominated by, like, insane...

01:31:30.000 Woke fourth wave feminism that it makes sense that he would take off in the way that he did.

01:31:38.000 And I've seen clips of Andrew Tate where he's breaking down an issue that I think is completely right.

01:31:47.000 And when he does it, you're kind of like, yo, I don't know if anyone could have said that in a better way than he just said it. 0.95

01:31:54.000 That was fucking perfect, you know? 0.89

01:31:56.000 So that's kind of... 1.00

01:31:59.000 Being said, from the stuff that I've seen that's come out, I can't explain how much I hate all the pimp shit, and I'm totally against that, and I hate that message, and I think that's the worst thing to send to young men. 0.97

01:32:17.000 I'm a family man, that's what I believe in promoting, so I don't like that. 0.99

01:32:22.000 Although it does seem to me, and again, I don't know enough to know whether I'm right or wrong about this, but it does seem to me like I think him and his brother have been kind of moving away from that and moving on to some other shit.

01:32:34.000 So I would just say I hate that stuff, but I do kind of like some of the stuff I see out of them. 0.94

01:32:39.000 And as far as any of the charges or any of that, I have no goddamn idea what really happened.

01:32:45.000 But I will say that an American citizen, or two American citizens, I should say, being held without charges in a foreign country with no due process, I'll say that if there's any role for us even having a government,

01:33:01.000 it should be to try to get those people out and try to have their back.

01:33:05.000 So that's...

01:33:07.000 I don't know.

01:33:07.000 I don't think there's much more than that that I could say about the Tates.

01:33:10.000 Well said.

01:33:11.000 Okay. 1.00

01:33:12.000 Thanks for derailing my goddamn question. 1.00

01:33:15.000 Hold on. 1.00

01:33:16.000 These clips are going to go viral.

01:33:18.000 Watch.

01:33:18.000 I'm helping out here, man.

01:33:20.000 I'll read the chats real quick, and then we'll get into the debate, because now we kind of know where you stand politically, so I want to definitely get your takes on some of this stuff.

01:33:27.000 Thanks, Dave.

01:33:28.000 The Cruxy goes, two of my favorite creators, Dave Myron and the audience need to check out Legion of Skanks, similar humor, versus already met Clint, so try to get Clint on.

01:33:38.000 I need an After Hours with Dave Smith and or Louis J before I die.

01:33:41.000 Okay, Cruxy.

01:33:42.000 What else do we got here?

01:33:44.000 We got Bro just took a lick of Mo Sweat.

01:33:47.000 Showstopper, HBK. Okay.

01:33:48.000 The chief here, fuck these losers, Kaka and Skeet. 1.00

01:33:51.000 Okay. 1.00

01:33:52.000 Oh, yeah.

01:33:52.000 The two comedians.

01:33:53.000 Yeah, losers. 0.99

01:33:55.000 That's from Fresh Update. 0.99

01:33:56.000 Shout out to you, bro. 1.00

01:33:56.000 D-Raps goes, Maren, you called this shit weeks ago. 1.00

01:33:58.000 Last night, Taylor Swift endorsed Kamala. 0.99

01:34:00.000 I'm not going to lie.

01:34:01.000 We are doomed.

01:34:02.000 Yeah.

01:34:02.000 And I definitely want to talk with Dave about that as well.

01:34:05.000 I told you guys right before the election day.

01:34:08.000 Dave, big fan of your comedy, brother, just as equally a fan of your political views as well.

01:34:11.000 I don't always agree, but I can definitely respect a man who does his due diligence and is articulate about getting the message across.

01:34:16.000 By the way, as a big fan of Rogan, I really enjoyed you calling out Chris Cuomo about his part with the dewormer medicine.

01:34:22.000 Oh, I think the vaccine is what he means.

01:34:25.000 Right? 1.00

01:34:26.000 No, he means the Ivermectin, because Cuomo's on that shit now. 1.00

01:34:30.000 Oh, okay, okay. 0.99

01:34:32.000 Love Dave Smith.

01:34:33.000 Thank you guys for keeping up with Great Content Consistently.

01:34:35.000 That's from Ram15Ram. 0.54

01:34:37.000 And then we got...

01:34:38.000 That's it?

01:34:39.000 Alright.

01:34:40.000 So, obviously the presidential election was last night.

01:34:43.000 I know you tuned into it.

01:34:45.000 What are your initial thoughts?

01:34:47.000 Who do you think won, if anyone?

01:34:49.000 And what do you think the next step is going to be from this point forward? 0.93

01:34:53.000 Well, you know, I just did a whole podcast on this earlier today, and I know this is gonna, like, piss people off, but I fucking...

01:35:02.000 And it doesn't make me happy to say it, but I thought it was overall a win for Kamala Harris. 0.95

01:35:09.000 Wait a minute!

01:35:10.000 Really?

01:35:11.000 Look...

01:35:11.000 Well, again, when I say a win for Kamala Harris, just to be clear, I'm not saying that by points she won the debate.

01:35:20.000 I think by points Donald Trump won the debate.

01:35:23.000 Donald Trump landed more punches on her than she landed on him.

01:35:28.000 And yes, the thing was...

01:35:32.000 Outrageously unfair. 0.98

01:35:34.000 And look, every debate Donald Trump's in, you always know that the fucking corporate media people are going to be totally unfair to him. 0.99

01:35:41.000 But last night was like appalling. 0.97

01:35:44.000 I don't think I've ever seen anything like that in a presidential debate before.

01:35:48.000 I mean, there was this famous moment where I believe her name was Candy Crawley.

01:35:55.000 Was the moderator between Obama and Mitt Romney.

01:35:58.000 And one time, she fact-checked Mitt Romney.

01:36:02.000 And it was about something that he was right about.

01:36:04.000 And she fact-checked him and still said he was wrong.

01:36:07.000 And people were flipping out.

01:36:08.000 But I've never seen a presidential debate where they did it over and over and over again and never to the other side. 0.98

01:36:16.000 And even though Kamala Harris was lying through her fucking teeth about a bunch of shit, whether it was like Trump's position on IVF or the fine people on both sides or the Project 2025, they never called her out. 1.00

01:36:28.000 They only called Trump out. 1.00

01:36:30.000 They were totally unfair.

01:36:31.000 But you know what?

01:36:33.000 I kind of have the attitude, and I've seen some videos of you two guys kind of talking out like young men who listen to you with this thing, where you're like, you know what?

01:36:41.000 No excuses.

01:36:42.000 It doesn't matter.

01:36:43.000 It doesn't matter how much things are stacked against you. 0.99

01:36:46.000 Your job is to fucking win. 0.99

01:36:48.000 That's all that matters. 0.99

01:36:50.000 You know, I said on my podcast earlier today, it's kind of like Okay, if I'm in my house, and I got my wife and my kids here in my house, and then let's say there's three guys with guns who come trying to invade my house, and I'm just here with my gun.

01:37:07.000 You know, I'm one guy with a gun.

01:37:09.000 Three guys with guns are coming in trying to invade my house to kill me and kill my wife and kids. 0.83

01:37:15.000 I don't have the luxury of sitting around and going, man, this is so unfair. 0.98

01:37:20.000 There's three of them, and there's only one of me.

01:37:23.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:37:24.000 This is bullshit, you know? 1.00

01:37:27.000 Like, fuck that! 1.00

01:37:28.000 That's nothing. 1.00

01:37:29.000 What it is to be a man is that you have to win, no matter what is handed to you.

01:37:35.000 That's your job, is to win.

01:37:37.000 And Donald Trump, at least as far as I'm concerned, had so many opportunities to just deliver knockout punches.

01:37:45.000 Like, knockout punches. 0.99

01:37:46.000 Donald Trump should be up by 50 points against fucking Kamala Harris. 1.00

01:37:53.000 This Fourth-rate nobody fucking chick who's only where she is because literally she sucked dick to the top like he should destroy her and he didn't he just didn't he rambled on and on he took the bait from her at a whole bunch of times where she'll just insult his crowd sizes and then he argues with her about that he wasn't like There's all these tight arguments against Kamala 0.99

01:38:23.000 Harris, and he couldn't put any of them together. 1.00

01:38:28.000 Look, the fucking president of the United States of America is a senile man. 1.00

01:38:33.000 We don't have a president. 1.00

01:38:35.000 And he wasn't even able to really successfully bash her for that.

01:38:39.000 Like, he kind of bashed Biden for...

01:38:41.000 He was like, oh, you got to wake him up at 4 p.m.

01:38:43.000 or whatever.

01:38:44.000 But he didn't really connect that to her.

01:38:46.000 To say, no, you were lying to the American people and telling them he was competent when he's not and he's still the president.

01:38:54.000 And there were some...

01:38:55.000 And then, look, man, the whole thing he said...

01:39:03.000 I think it could have been much better.

01:39:20.000 So, I'll give you my take on it, because I was watching it and reacting to it live last night.

01:39:25.000 What I think is, I think Trump won the debate.

01:39:28.000 However, he won it by a hair.

01:39:31.000 And I do think that when he won his parts, he definitely won it.

01:39:36.000 But the issue is this.

01:39:38.000 We're so tight in a race that I don't think he actually brought any independents or anyone that's in the middle over.

01:39:43.000 That's the problem.

01:39:44.000 So, if you were supporting Trump before, your views aren't going to change.

01:39:48.000 If you were supporting Kamala before, your views aren't going to change.

01:39:51.000 And you can even make the argument that Kamala might have converted more people that were in the middle.

01:39:56.000 Because she just was a little bit better at articulating herself.

01:40:00.000 She was able to get him riled up on certain things that didn't matter.

01:40:03.000 Obviously, I agree with you 100% that it was an unfair playing field because they fact-checked him on a couple of things, like abortion.

01:40:09.000 They fact-checked him on...

01:40:11.000 The dogs and the ducks! 0.85

01:40:12.000 Yeah, the dogs.

01:40:14.000 They brought up the Central Park Five, right?

01:40:17.000 They asked her.

01:40:19.000 They brought up January 6th.

01:40:20.000 So they put him in a lot of situations where he was on his back foot and he had to defend himself, but they didn't do the same thing for Kamala.

01:40:27.000 They didn't ask her about him.

01:40:29.000 Oh yeah, of course.

01:40:29.000 Of course not.

01:40:30.000 Nothing even close.

01:40:31.000 And look, honestly, I'm not even really disagreeing with your overall assessment of it.

01:40:37.000 I guess the point I'm making is that I never really thought there was a chance that Kamala Harris was going to do so much damage to Donald Trump that it would change the course of the race.

01:40:50.000 But I did think there was a real chance that Donald Trump could do enough damage to Kamala Harris that it would change the course of the race.

01:40:57.000 And he just couldn't.

01:40:59.000 And even with all those things that you're talking about, yes, they put him on the back foot, but...

01:41:05.000 I don't know.

01:41:06.000 He just seemed to me like a little bit older and a little bit lower energy.

01:41:11.000 And like all of those examples that you've used could very easily by any sharp person, you could easily turn those right back around on him.

01:41:21.000 Like even the central part five, he could have like just been like, Hey, yeah, they did it.

01:41:27.000 By the way, they did it.

01:41:28.000 Just because they got off doesn't mean they didn't do it.

01:41:31.000 And then let me tell you all about that.

01:41:33.000 But the thing is, he doesn't actually know anything about that.

01:41:36.000 So he doesn't really have anything to say.

01:41:38.000 And then, like, that was true with so many different topics.

01:41:41.000 Like, Donald Trump, a lot of his instincts are correct.

01:41:45.000 But he doesn't really have a deep understanding of any issue.

01:41:50.000 And so he just wasn't able to, like, really, like, attack her.

01:41:54.000 Even when...

01:41:57.000 It was, the topic was, you know, all of the policies that she's walked away from.

01:42:02.000 Yeah.

01:42:03.000 Like, he didn't do a good, look, here's the thing you gotta recognize, right?

01:42:08.000 And I'm sure both of you guys could understand this.

01:42:10.000 So, if you, let's say I'm on the Fresh and Fit podcast, and the topic is feminism.

01:42:18.000 Yeah.

01:42:19.000 Or the topic is OnlyFans girls or something like that.

01:42:23.000 Now, I could assume with your audience that I kind of don't have to start from square one.

01:42:30.000 You guys kind of already know a bit about this topic.

01:42:34.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:42:34.000 So I could almost start from level four and then build up from that, because you guys already know the basics of this shit. 0.98

01:42:41.000 I mean, obviously you two do, but your entire audience has heard about this stuff before, right? 0.98

01:42:46.000 Yeah.

01:42:46.000 But then if I was just on some random other podcast that has nothing to do with these topics, and they asked me about feminism, I got to start from level one.

01:42:55.000 You know, like...

01:42:57.000 If I go on Joe Rogan or Tucker Carlson or one of the really, really big shows, and if they're asking about some shit that my audience might know a lot about, I still understand that I gotta explain it to these masses in a way where for people who didn't know what we're talking about here,

01:43:17.000 You understand what we're saying.

01:43:19.000 So when Donald Trump would go, he'd just go, she does believe in the New Deal, she does believe in banning fracking, she does believe in gun control, but he never actually explained it.

01:43:31.000 He never actually explained to people that it's like, look, this is what she ran on in 2020, and she's walked away from all of those policies.

01:43:40.000 And now she's also trying to walk away from the Biden administration. 1.00

01:43:45.000 So what is she running on?

01:43:47.000 She's running on nothing.

01:43:48.000 Like, he never really explained that.

01:43:51.000 And it was right there in front of him to do it.

01:43:54.000 And I just, I can't help but look at it and go, what a huge missed opportunity.

01:43:59.000 So you know what I saw?

01:44:00.000 I saw that he spoke to her, and she spoke to the audience.

01:44:03.000 And for the most part, in that whole aspect there, she won over the people that were watching.

01:44:08.000 It was a direct talk to the audience, not to him.

01:44:11.000 Well, I think also the other thing that's important that Dave just mentioned is that most Americans probably heard their policies for the first time during the course of that debate.

01:44:20.000 They probably didn't really know where either of them stand like that because most Americans are just simply not that politically savvy.

01:44:27.000 Most voters, I would say, are single-issue voters.

01:44:29.000 They don't really know and or care about other policies.

01:44:32.000 So the debate is really where you iron out your policies while attacking the others.

01:44:36.000 And I agree with you, Dave.

01:44:38.000 He didn't attack her policies hard enough and how she flip-flopped on so many things.

01:44:42.000 He had so many opportunities to dunk on her, right?

01:44:44.000 In the first half...

01:44:46.000 Instead of answering questions nice and succinctly and staying on topic, he brought it to immigration.

01:44:51.000 He should've just waited until immigration was brought up and then absolutely demolished with every single point, right? 1.00

01:44:55.000 But he didn't do that.

01:44:57.000 He brought everything back to immigration at the beginning. 0.52

01:44:59.000 Then, after the first half, he probably met with his team or something like that and told him, hey, dude, you gotta stay more focused.

01:45:04.000 Don't bring everything back to immigration. 1.00

01:45:07.000 And then they start talking about Russia-Ukraine.

01:45:09.000 She brags and says, oh, I was in Ukraine talking to Zelensky three days before Russia invaded.

01:45:14.000 And then, bam, Russia invades, and he actually flipped it on her and said, look, this chick is not a good diplomat. 1.00

01:45:19.000 She went over there to try to broker peace, and what happened?

01:45:21.000 She failed, because she doesn't talk to Putin.

01:45:24.000 That was fantastic, because he took her argument, stayed on point, and then absolutely showed how she's incompetent. 0.99

01:45:28.000 If he had done that throughout the entire debate, he would've been able to destroy her, but he was disheveled, he wasn't organized, he didn't attack each of the points, and then it fucking kills me.

01:45:37.000 This whole tax credit thing that she's talking about, I'm gonna give $6,000 to families.

01:45:40.000 That's your policy, Donald.

01:45:42.000 That's you and J.D. Vance.

01:45:44.000 You guys came out with that first.

01:45:46.000 Look, he had one kind of moment where he alluded to that.

01:45:52.000 He said like, oh, they're taking my policies or something.

01:45:56.000 But even then, he didn't really explain it.

01:45:59.000 And again, like you said, you're totally right about that. 0.99

01:46:03.000 Most people have no idea about this shit. 0.99

01:46:06.000 Most people are like, wait, there was that old senile guy, he's out, and now she's in. 1.00

01:46:12.000 Who's she? 0.97

01:46:14.000 They don't even know.

01:46:15.000 It's like, who's she?

01:46:16.000 And he's there.

01:46:17.000 And look, all he had to do, right, is like you could say this in a way that everybody would have understood it.

01:46:24.000 All Donald Trump had to do is not—you can't just say, they're taking my policies.

01:46:29.000 He had to go, look.

01:46:32.000 In 2016, when I came down the escalator and I said the most important issue here is that we have to control our borders, Kamala Harris and all of these Democrats said I was Hitler for having that opinion.

01:46:48.000 That was their response.

01:46:50.000 Now, after their four years of rain, they're all saying we have to control our borders.

01:46:56.000 So who was right and who was wrong?

01:46:59.000 Do you want to apologize for calling me Hitler?

01:47:02.000 Or do you want to just, like, acknowledge that, yes, we need to control our border?

01:47:06.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:47:06.000 Like, and this is just off the top of my head.

01:47:08.000 I'm just saying, he had weeks to prepare.

01:47:11.000 Like, there's just a way he could have delivered that that would have been like, yo, knockout blow.

01:47:17.000 Knockout blow. 0.90

01:47:18.000 And I do think that sometimes, like, I know that, um...

01:47:24.000 I saw some people, like Trump supporters online and stuff, and the younger Trump supporters who were saying some of the insults he landed.

01:47:34.000 They were like, oh, he was great.

01:47:36.000 He got her on that one.

01:47:37.000 And I was kind of like, yeah, it was okay, but...

01:47:41.000 He really didn't connect the dots.

01:47:43.000 He didn't really, like, land the devastating blow.

01:47:46.000 I kind of felt like my analogy would be like, if there was a boxer who came out, like Kamala Harris is the boxer, and she comes out, and she's got her hands down at her waist. 0.99

01:47:57.000 Yeah.

01:47:58.000 Just standing in front of him.

01:48:00.000 And after 12 rounds, it was like he landed four good jabs.

01:48:05.000 Yeah.

01:48:06.000 You're like, okay, alright.

01:48:09.000 For me watching, and here's the thing, I'm a Trump supporter, but I was so annoyed and angry because she kept bringing up Project 2025. 0.93

01:48:18.000 She kept lying, and then the fucking moderators bringing up January 6th, trying to frame him as an insurrectionist. 0.97

01:48:24.000 They asked him about, oh, you're claiming Kamala isn't black. 0.98

01:48:29.000 They tried to put him on his back foot, but to me, I look at it like, yes, though the moderation wasn't fair at all, I still think he could have destroyed her because the thing is that so many of these policies, she doesn't know what she's talking about, right?

01:48:41.000 And I was just disappointed because it should have been a landslide. 0.98

01:48:44.000 And I think for Trump to win, he needs a fucking landslide to beat her in a debate. 0.98

01:48:49.000 And I think basically the debate did nothing. 0.99

01:48:51.000 It cemented people that like Trump.

01:48:53.000 They're going to say, oh, he was funny.

01:48:55.000 We saw 2016 Trump again.

01:48:57.000 He made fun of her, etc.

01:48:58.000 And he had some good one-liners.

01:48:59.000 And then for the Kamala supporters, they're going to say, oh, she won the debate.

01:49:03.000 She was more opposed.

01:49:04.000 She was able to get him on the rally thing or whatever.

01:49:06.000 And then the people that are in the middle, which is the most important, I don't really think we converted enough of them over to the MAGA side.

01:49:13.000 I think if anything, you can make the argument she converted more people in the middle.

01:49:16.000 She did.

01:49:16.000 I think you're probably right about that.

01:49:20.000 Even if not, like, I think you're right, but even if you're not...

01:49:24.000 Though I still think he won, but he didn't win enough, not decisively enough, in my opinion.

01:49:29.000 Well, let me say it like this, right, for Trump supporters.

01:49:33.000 So Donald Trump last night, one of the moments, actually, I thought the most egregious moment by the moderators was when they asked that question about, like, they go, hey, you said recently that you did lose the election in 2020.

01:49:49.000 Oh, yeah.

01:49:49.000 And he goes, no, I was being sarcastic.

01:49:52.000 And no, we didn't lose.

01:49:53.000 And he went off on this whole thing about how he actually won.

01:49:56.000 And then after he was done, the moderator goes, it didn't sound like you were being sarcastic.

01:50:02.000 That's appalling for a moderator to say, well, in my opinion, you're wrong. 1.00

01:50:09.000 It's like, yo, what the fuck? 0.99

01:50:10.000 You don't get to add your opinion. 1.00

01:50:12.000 The fact-checking thing is crazy.

01:50:14.000 But you're just now adding opinions?

01:50:16.000 That's nuts, okay?

01:50:18.000 But let's just say this.

01:50:19.000 So Donald Trump is saying he won the election in 2020 and it was stolen from him.

01:50:27.000 Okay?

01:50:27.000 So if that's true, then as the sitting president of the United States of America, he couldn't stop them from stealing the election from him.

01:50:38.000 So what are we dealing with now, when Donald Trump is not the sitting President of the United States? 0.86

01:50:43.000 Donald Trump is a convicted felon, as they keep reminding you. 0.67

01:50:47.000 Just a regular citizen. 1.00

01:50:49.000 And not even a regular citizen.

01:50:50.000 A regular citizen awaiting sentencing.

01:50:53.000 So how the hell is he gonna stop them from stealing it again?

01:50:56.000 So then the only answer, I guess, would be that he has to not just win, he has to win by such an overwhelming margin, That they can't possibly steal it from him.

01:51:08.000 So that's the onus.

01:51:10.000 And you know what, dude?

01:51:11.000 You know what, guys?

01:51:12.000 Like, I'm talking to you two.

01:51:14.000 Fresh and fit.

01:51:15.000 Okay, well, what do you have to do to do that? 0.99

01:51:17.000 What you have to do is fucking wreck Kamala Harris in a debate. 0.99

01:51:21.000 Wreck her. 0.99

01:51:22.000 Not a thing where we could even be sitting here debating over who won and who lost.

01:51:28.000 And that shouldn't be that hard.

01:51:30.000 Because Kamala Harris is basically, you ever see the old videos of her with Montel Williams?

01:51:35.000 She's basically the row of chicks that you guys debate all the time. 1.00

01:51:41.000 That's who she is.

01:51:42.000 Just an older version of that, right? 1.00

01:51:44.000 So fucking destroy her, Donald Trump. 0.99

01:51:47.000 Like, I don't think that's too much to ask. 1.00

01:51:50.000 Like, just, you should be able to just utterly humiliate her. 0.99

01:51:56.000 And he didn't do that.

01:51:58.000 And so that's a failure.

01:51:59.000 I'm sorry.

01:52:00.000 Like, almost in the same way, maybe this is the way to put it, right?

01:52:04.000 So we're like, even when I said at the beginning, I went, you know, I say it's a win for her.

01:52:08.000 And then I go, okay, it's not a win on points.

01:52:10.000 And then you say, Myron, you go like, well, look, I thought he won, but she probably pulled more people in the middle.

01:52:15.000 But let's just say this, okay?

01:52:16.000 If some OnlyFans chick came on to the Fresh and Fit podcast, and she got in a long, drawn-out, 90-minute debate with Myron, and then we were even debating over who won, It's a loss for me.

01:52:31.000 You lost, dude!

01:52:33.000 You lost!

01:52:34.000 That's a good analogy.

01:52:35.000 Yeah, that's a good analogy.

01:52:36.000 That's very good, actually.

01:52:36.000 That's a great analogy.

01:52:37.000 Yeah, because the people are so disappointed by your performance.

01:52:42.000 Even if you win, it doesn't matter.

01:52:44.000 And then, like you said before, the odds are so stacked against you that you need a decisive win.

01:52:49.000 So, yeah, no, dude, I was disappointed listening to it, because I was just like, because everyone was expecting a blowout.

01:52:55.000 Everyone was expecting a blowout, and it wasn't.

01:52:57.000 And to her credit, she came out and she performed well.

01:52:59.000 Now, there's some allegations that they gave her the questions ahead of time, which now I'm starting to maybe potentially believe.

01:53:04.000 Because this woman has been avoiding interviews from adversarial networks. 1.00

01:53:09.000 She's been avoiding press conferences, etc.

01:53:11.000 We know that she's not the best person live.

01:53:14.000 And she was fairly poised and articulate when she was talking yesterday.

01:53:18.000 So it's plausible that she might have gotten the questions beforehand, especially knowing that ABC, the head of ABC, something Walden, is tight with the Harris administration.

01:53:29.000 Yeah.

01:53:30.000 Well, do you guys know the Donna Brazile story with Hillary Clinton?

01:53:36.000 No.

01:53:37.000 Okay, so this was back in 2016.

01:53:40.000 This was released by WikiLeaks, and it was, I mean, conclusively true that they found that they had leaked the debate questions to Hillary Clinton.

01:53:50.000 So Donna Brazile had sent her—I guess she was at CNN at the time— And she had sent her the debate questions, and so they so conclusively proved this that they had the email from weeks earlier, and then you had the town hall debate where she's getting asked those same questions from the email.

01:54:11.000 I don't know for sure about last night's debate, but just to back up your point, they have done this before, like for sure.

01:54:19.000 Where they released what the questions were going to be to the Hillary Clinton campaign before the event.

01:54:27.000 So it's certainly not beyond the realm of possibility that they would have done that with Kamala Harris as well.

01:54:32.000 But Dave, to your point, it was four versus one.

01:54:34.000 It was two moderators and her getting the questions beforehand. 0.81

01:54:39.000 Oh, yeah.

01:54:41.000 But also, they said her earrings were bugged.

01:54:43.000 I don't know if it's true or not, but that's what they were saying, a rumor.

01:54:47.000 Now, granted, though, how do you defeat a hoe in a debate? 1.00

01:54:50.000 Mine is a master debating these hoes. 1.00

01:54:52.000 We've seen it every single night after hours.

01:54:54.000 I'm not calling Kamala a ho, but you can get a reference here. 1.00

01:54:57.000 So Kamala Harris is able to give you what you want to hear in real time.

01:55:02.000 And all her prior interviews, she was lacking.

01:55:05.000 She was not good at improv at all.

01:55:06.000 So to your point, Dave, I think for some reason or whatever, she got questions beforehand and used that to her advantage.

01:55:11.000 But honestly, bro...

01:55:13.000 I think she won the people's vote at that point.

01:55:15.000 She also appealed to emotion.

01:55:17.000 And this is, I guess, where – because once we get into this lane, this is where people kind of call me a little crazy.

01:55:23.000 I think we need to repeal the 19th Amendment. 0.90

01:55:25.000 I don't think women should be voting at all. 1.00

01:55:27.000 And it's because – and I'll tell you why here in a second – Number one, they're not in the selective service, so they don't have skin in the game.

01:55:34.000 So I think it's preposterous that they can vote for a leader that can send someone to war when they don't have skin in the game, right?

01:55:39.000 That's number one.

01:55:40.000 And then number two, I don't think women should be in the military at all anyway, because it creates a lot of problems. 1.00

01:55:45.000 So I think men should only be in the military, and if we are going to allow women to come in, we only have one fitness standard, and if they can pass it, cool. 1.00

01:55:52.000 Then they have government service, and then they have some military service, and they complete it.

01:55:55.000 Then you go ahead and get to be able to vote.

01:55:57.000 But why do I say all this?

01:55:58.000 I say all this because...

01:55:59.000 I think?

01:56:22.000 And I'm just going to delegate it to the states.

01:56:23.000 But what the Democrats have done is they turned it around and made it like, oh, you don't really have a stance on abortion, so we're going to go ahead and paint you as an anti-abortion guy in an abortion ban, and we're going to just kind of run with that, even though he delegated it to the states.

01:56:37.000 And normal people don't know this because we're all aware, but when I was on the FYU campus talking to college girls, they all think that Trump is anti-abortion, and it's like, that's not true.

01:56:46.000 He just delegated it to the states because he didn't want to deal with it.

01:56:47.000 But the Democrats have been able to...

01:56:59.000 That's what a lot of them vote for.

01:57:01.000 They'll put a terrible person in if they protect their reproductive rights. 1.00

01:57:07.000 I find it interesting, and I called it too, Taylor Swift goes ahead and endorses Kamala Harris on Instagram immediately after the debate, right? 0.99

01:57:15.000 And we all know who Taylor Swift fans are, you know, ADIQ females that are idiots, and she turned the comments off, right? 1.00

01:57:23.000 This is why I think women should be voting because they're able to appeal to them emotionally, like Kamala did when she talked about reproductive rights. 0.99

01:57:31.000 Then she brought in Taylor Swift, who has a huge female base. 1.00

01:57:34.000 She's relying heavily on celebrities. 1.00

01:57:36.000 This smoke-and-mirrors campaign strategy that the Democrats employ, it works for people that are more susceptible to propaganda, people that don't really know politics, people that like to see a show.

01:57:48.000 And I think it creates a lot of problems, which is why I don't think women should vote, but that's a whole other conversation. 1.00

01:57:52.000 But I think she was really good at appealing to emotion and not necessarily facts.

01:57:57.000 I don't know what your thoughts are on that, Dave.

01:57:59.000 Yeah, well, look, I mean...

01:58:02.000 I think that you make a fair point, but it also probably applies to much more than just women and much more than just Democrats.

01:58:12.000 I mean, it really is like a fundamental flaw in democracy itself.

01:58:18.000 That, you know, if you're talking about well over 150 million voters Then what are you going to do?

01:58:29.000 Appeal to the high IQ, informed voters?

01:58:33.000 What percentage are they out of 150 million?

01:58:36.000 Get out of here, dude.

01:58:38.000 And look, it's not just Democrats.

01:58:40.000 It's not just women. 1.00

01:58:41.000 It's like, how do you think?

01:58:42.000 George W. Bush won re-election by just purely appealing to emotion and like no logical arguments at all.

01:58:49.000 And same with Obama and to some degree the same with Donald Trump.

01:58:54.000 I mean, you know, he had some good points in there, but really the only way you can put it together is to appeal to emotion.

01:59:01.000 It's the only way you can win in a democratic system.

01:59:04.000 I mean, it's not—just imagine, like, some nerd who had all the right answers on economic policy and monetary policy and fiscal policy and foreign policy got up there and just explained them in the driest of ways.

01:59:19.000 How many votes are they going to win?

01:59:21.000 Like, nothing, you know?

01:59:23.000 And so, like, that's kind of what the whole system has become.

01:59:26.000 And, yeah, I think that really what the game comes down to is how can you appeal to the voters' emotions.

01:59:34.000 And it's unfortunate, but, you know, look, just in theory, it makes no sense at all that...

01:59:42.000 People should be allowed to vote other people's liberties away.

01:59:47.000 It doesn't matter whether it's men or women. 0.86

01:59:50.000 And I agree with you that I think women are more prone to being fooled by that emotional stuff.

01:59:56.000 Yeah, way more.

01:59:57.000 Sure, sure.

01:59:58.000 I certainly agree with that.

01:59:59.000 But at the same time, you know, Look, even in the founding of this country, when we were supposed to be like a constitutionally limited republic, and there were strict limitations on who could vote.

02:00:12.000 And, okay, fine.

02:00:14.000 Look, it was women weren't allowed to vote, and blacks weren't allowed to vote. 1.00

02:00:19.000 And you could have whatever problem you have with either of those, and I think there are legitimate arguments against why that's not okay.

02:00:27.000 But...

02:00:28.000 It was also only landowners.

02:00:32.000 No, I agree. 0.99

02:00:32.000 Blacks shouldn't vote. 0.99

02:00:33.000 I'm just kidding. 1.00

02:00:35.000 I'm just saying that like...

02:00:36.000 You can't vote.

02:00:37.000 I'm not. 0.91

02:00:38.000 Black. 0.93

02:00:38.000 I'm just kidding. 0.93

02:00:39.000 Go ahead, bro.

02:00:39.000 If we're being honest, I think that there is...

02:00:42.000 Look, like there's an argument...

02:00:47.000 Yeah.

02:01:04.000 Well, you can go read the founders' writing on this, and they were very clear about that.

02:01:08.000 Because if the people who don't own anything can vote, that they'll just vote that the people who own stuff have to give it all to us until none of us have anything.

02:01:17.000 And so, like, look, there is a fundamental flaw in democracy, like, both morally and just in terms of effectiveness.

02:01:27.000 That, like, so what are you saying, man?

02:01:29.000 Like, we could all just vote?

02:01:32.000 Like, if there's a millionaire and five people making 50 grand a year, we could all just have a vote in how resources are shared?

02:01:41.000 Well, how do you think that's gonna go?

02:01:44.000 Not positive, you know?

02:01:46.000 It's just gonna be destructive. 1.00

02:01:48.000 Let's just vote to take their shit and give it to us. 1.00

02:01:50.000 I think that's, unfortunately, that's just what politics is today. 1.00

02:01:54.000 Yeah, I mean, you have to appeal to emotion and appeal to the lowest common denominator because most Americans are stupid and uninformed. 0.98

02:02:01.000 And, you know, obviously this is why I think the Democrats are so much better at campaigning a lot of the times because they're able to appeal. 0.99

02:02:08.000 They bring celebrities in.

02:02:09.000 They stay current.

02:02:10.000 They're cool.

02:02:11.000 Like, I mean, they're campaigning right now saying that J.D. Vance is weird.

02:02:14.000 Like, they're just kind of able to be the cooler party is what it is.

02:02:17.000 But they've painted Trump as the villain.

02:02:20.000 And most people, they think he's a real felon, like legit felon.

02:02:24.000 And you put that next to his name after what he's done, it's like, yo, who are they going to vote for?

02:02:30.000 And like you said, Dave, Most people are not high IQ. So just off our emotions alone, that's going to give Kamala the win.

02:02:36.000 I'm telling you, bro.

02:02:37.000 So do you think we need... 0.59

02:02:39.000 I think Trump needs another debate and needs to smash her. 1.00

02:02:43.000 Kamala's team did say that they would be willing to do another debate even on Fox.

02:02:47.000 I don't know how real she is about that.

02:02:49.000 But what are your thoughts on another debate and or if it does or doesn't happen, what do you predict is going to happen in the election?

02:02:58.000 Man, it's a really tough year to make predictions.

02:03:01.000 I'll say that I think that basically that debate last night had minimal effect on the race, and so I think we're right back to where we were, which is that I think Donald Trump is slightly ahead.

02:03:19.000 But when I say that, just to be very clear, I mean if we had free and fair elections I think right now Donald Trump has the slight edge and I mean slight edge like not like not a If you flip a coin ten times in a row,

02:03:42.000 I don't think he wins six.

02:03:44.000 I think he wins 5.3 or something like that.

02:03:48.000 Like, you know, he's like slightly ahead.

02:03:50.000 But, number one, that's way too close for comfort.

02:03:54.000 And number two, I'm not so sure that the assertion that we have free and fair elections is going to be the case.

02:04:02.000 So, what I think is that Donald Trump needs something big.

02:04:07.000 I don't know what that is.

02:04:08.000 Is it a Fox debate?

02:04:25.000 I go, let's just say that Donald Trump said, I'll do a debate, but listen, the corporate media model is dead.

02:04:34.000 We have no need for that anymore.

02:04:36.000 I'm going to do a debate hosted by Elon Musk and Joe Rogan and Lex Friedman or whoever, whoever the people might be.

02:04:44.000 But I'm going with this other internet crowd of people.

02:04:48.000 Well, I think we all kind of know That Kamala Harris would never do that, right?

02:04:56.000 Like, do any of us think that there's any chance that Kamala Harris or Joe Biden or anyone like that would go on Joe Rogan's podcast with Donald Trump for three hours?

02:05:07.000 Does anyone think that might happen?

02:05:10.000 Never.

02:05:10.000 Absolutely not.

02:05:12.000 Okay.

02:05:13.000 Now, why is that?

02:05:16.000 Why is it that they would never do that? 0.99

02:05:19.000 Because they're smarter than to go into fucking enemy territory. 0.99

02:05:24.000 Right? 0.99

02:05:26.000 Okay, so then maybe Donald Trump should be too.

02:05:31.000 Now, I'm just saying that's a question worth pondering.

02:05:35.000 Like, maybe there's a reason why they'd never do that, and maybe that's the same reason why you shouldn't have done this one.

02:05:42.000 Donald Trump needs to find a way to land major damage on Kamala Harris, and I don't think he's found a way yet.

02:05:51.000 I don't know.

02:05:51.000 Maybe the answer is to go do a Fox News debate.

02:05:54.000 I'm not sure about it.

02:05:55.000 But I think what I just said is worth consent, right?

02:05:58.000 Dave, to your point, there's a game being played here, and Kamala and the Democratic Party are playing it very well.

02:06:04.000 And Trump is learning the game, but it's too late because they're way ahead of him.

02:06:08.000 For example, their methods, what they do.

02:06:10.000 And I think, like you said before, Trump needs a Trump card, literally, because that's the only way he can win this.

02:06:14.000 Okay.

02:06:15.000 Trump card.

02:06:19.000 Yeah.

02:06:19.000 So you're friends with Joe, with Rogan.

02:06:22.000 Why won't he have Trump on?

02:06:25.000 Because I've been, like, thinking to myself, like, why doesn't he have Trump on, man?

02:06:29.000 I mean, I don't really know what the answer to that is.

02:06:32.000 I think that— Does he not want to influence the election?

02:06:34.000 I know he likes RFK. You know, I know he's had RFK on a bunch of times, and I like RFK, too.

02:06:40.000 But, you know, I just don't like that he aligns himself with Schmooley and these weirdos. 0.99

02:06:44.000 But, like, you know, he's had RFK on.

02:06:46.000 Yeah, me too.

02:06:47.000 So why not have Trump on and then maybe invite Kamala if she would come?

02:06:51.000 I don't think she'd come, but— To be clear, that was, you were saying, RFK lines himself with Shmuley and these people, not Joe Rogan.

02:06:58.000 No, no, no, no, I meant RFK. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:07:00.000 No, just in case that sounded.

02:07:02.000 When this gets clipped, I don't want it to be, to sound like that's what I was saying.

02:07:06.000 RFK lines himself with Shmuley, which, you know, Shmuley's a loser, but, I mean, Rogan hasn't interviewed Trump, and it's like, I get it, if you want to be impartial, why not?

02:07:14.000 You can invite Kamala, too.

02:07:15.000 She won't come, because, obviously, it's not a, you know, a layup interview, but I I find it interesting how he hasn't had Trump on yet.

02:07:23.000 Yeah, I mean, honestly, I don't know exactly the answer to that.

02:07:26.000 I don't know why he hasn't done that.

02:07:30.000 I think that Joe, first of all, I will just say this.

02:07:36.000 Joe Rogan's like one of the best people I've ever known, and I don't just say that because he's helped me out a lot, although I am a very loyal person, and I would never say anything bad about Rogan ever, but I really mean this when I say he's just a really great dude,

02:07:51.000 and I think that I think he is not a super political person and doesn't really want to be that guy.

02:07:59.000 That's the impression I get.

02:08:00.000 Like he doesn't really want to be the like political kingmaker.

02:08:04.000 And I think that he's had, like you said, he had RFK on and he's had Tulsi Gabbard on his show and he's had like some other But it was always kind of people who never really had a shot to win.

02:08:14.000 It was just people who, like, he felt like he'd have a really interesting conversation with or there was something they were about that he really liked. 0.99

02:08:23.000 So, like, Tulsi was about these wars are all bullshit. 0.97

02:08:27.000 And he was like, I really like what she's saying, so I want to talk to her about that. 1.00

02:08:31.000 Or RFK was like, hey, the health of the United States is bullshit. 0.98

02:08:36.000 And he was like, yes, I totally agree with that. 0.98

02:08:38.000 I want to talk to that guy about that.

02:08:40.000 I think that he's never been trying to be a political animal.

02:08:45.000 And I know Rogan pretty well.

02:08:48.000 He's a pretty good friend of mine.

02:08:49.000 And the idea of anyone even just giving a political answer to a question he asked You know what I'm saying?

02:08:59.000 Just like when the way they ask questions at the debates and they're like, you know, like the first question was like, Kamala Harris, why are people better off than they were four years ago?

02:09:09.000 And she's like, you know, I was raised in a middle class family. 0.99

02:09:13.000 Like the second someone did that with Rogan, I think he would puke and end the interview immediately and just be like, what the fuck? 1.00

02:09:20.000 Fuck is this? 0.99

02:09:21.000 And like, I think he just wants to kind of stay away from that. 1.00

02:09:24.000 And I really, to be honest, I don't blame him for it.

02:09:27.000 I understand why you just don't even want to be mixed up in all this awfulness.

02:09:32.000 Yeah, I see that perspective.

02:09:34.000 When you have that level of influence, you don't want to, because I remember Yeah.

02:09:58.000 What are your thoughts on RFK? I'm really excited, by the way, that he endorsed Trump.

02:10:01.000 What was your thoughts on that?

02:10:02.000 Because I would argue he's probably closer to libertarian than even being a Democrat, if anything.

02:10:08.000 I mean, in some ways.

02:10:10.000 You know, he's like an old-school Democrat.

02:10:13.000 And so, you know, RFK, I had an interesting relationship with him.

02:10:21.000 His son, Bobby Kennedy III, was like a fan of mine, and he facilitated us meeting and him coming on my podcast.

02:10:32.000 And, you know, We talked about it very briefly on this show, but I've done real, real deep dives on the war in Ukraine and the whole history of that.

02:10:43.000 We could do a five-hour podcast just talking about that stuff.

02:10:48.000 And so the first time I had him on my podcast, we just ended up talking about that a lot.

02:10:53.000 And he...

02:10:54.000 Bobby really knows his stuff on that.

02:10:57.000 Like, he's really well read on that whole thing, and he's so good on it.

02:11:01.000 And so I was just, I just was really intrigued by the guy.

02:11:05.000 And he's very, very smart.

02:11:08.000 He's just a very interesting guy, you know?

02:11:10.000 And his stuff about health and encouraging health is something that's so sorely, like, missed in American, like, in the American conversation.

02:11:20.000 And so I really liked that.

02:11:23.000 And it was just like a guy, it was like Jack Kennedy's nephew and Bobby Kennedy's son is on my podcast and he's running for president and this guy like Is smart and reads books and knows what he's talking about.

02:11:38.000 And I was just totally, I was like, this is a really interesting moment.

02:11:41.000 And I also just thought it was a really interesting campaign because he was such, he was like from democratic royalty.

02:11:49.000 And yet he was a repudiation of everything that the current Democrats stood for. 0.99

02:11:54.000 Like, no, the COVID vax is bullshit. 1.00

02:11:57.000 This war in Ukraine is bullshit. 1.00

02:11:59.000 Everything Joe Biden is saying is bullshit, you know? 1.00

02:12:02.000 And so I loved that. 0.98

02:12:05.000 I did kind of feel like our relationship was really strained after October of last year and his position on Israel and all that stuff was just very tough for me to You know,

02:12:21.000 accept.

02:12:22.000 And then he came back on my podcast to his credit, and we debated about that issue, so I appreciate that he came on that.

02:12:28.000 And I will say, ultimately, I think it was a good move that he dropped out and endorsed Donald Trump.

02:12:36.000 I think that was probably the best thing he could have done at that point.

02:12:41.000 He's a very interesting guy.

02:12:42.000 I think he's going to be a force in the American conversation for years to come.

02:12:47.000 And I think the stuff he has to say on health, on the deep state, on government corruption, on war generally, when it's not about Israel, I think all of that is really good.

02:13:00.000 And so I hope he's a loud voice on all that stuff going forward.

02:13:04.000 Yeah, no, I like him as well.

02:13:06.000 I think once you get over his voice, because a lot of people complain about his voice, he's actually pretty sharp.

02:13:11.000 And I agree with you.

02:13:11.000 I think the only thing that I had an issue with was his stance on Israel.

02:13:15.000 And it's interesting because his father and his uncle were the last two individuals in American government to stand up to Israel. 0.56

02:13:22.000 They were the last ones.

02:13:24.000 You know, John F. Kennedy was, you know, in the process of trying to get them through, it's a registered affair, APAC, with his attorney general brother.

02:13:32.000 And he wanted nuclear inspections.

02:13:34.000 And, you know, he stood up to Israel.

02:13:36.000 They both stood up to Israel.

02:13:37.000 And me personally, I think Israel had a... 0.99

02:13:39.000 Very strong incentive to get them killed.

02:13:42.000 I do think that there's Zionist fingerprints all over the JFK assassination. 0.70

02:13:45.000 Well, they were certainly blackmailing Alan Dulles, who was the CIA director, who John F. Kennedy ultimately fired, and then who was on the Warren Commission after his assassination.

02:14:00.000 So that's, you know, yeah, there's...

02:14:03.000 A whole very deep, interesting history there, and I don't know if we know exactly what happened there, but certainly there were some real tensions between the Kennedy administration and the Israelis, no question about that.

02:14:19.000 Yeah.

02:14:19.000 And I did a whole podcast actually about this.

02:14:21.000 It was like four hours long.

02:14:22.000 I did it with a guy named Corey Hughes.

02:14:23.000 He's one of the best JFK researchers.

02:14:25.000 And we went through it, man.

02:14:26.000 And we identified who the shooters were.

02:14:28.000 It was four of them.

02:14:29.000 You know, it wasn't Oswald like they tell you in the Warren Commission, etc.

02:14:33.000 And when you do the research, you need to do a deep dive.

02:14:35.000 I can send you the link after.

02:14:36.000 Um...

02:14:37.000 There's Zionist fingerprints all over it. 0.93

02:14:39.000 Like, I'm not going to, you know, just take the lazy way and be like, the Jews did it! 1.00

02:14:42.000 Like, no.

02:14:43.000 There's a bunch of different individuals from different entities, whether it's the CIA deep state, Israel, the Italian mafia.

02:14:51.000 All of these people wanted John F. Kennedy gone, right?

02:14:53.000 There was definitely a vested interest in getting him out of here for all of these different entities.

02:14:58.000 Which, I guess I'll segue real quick.

02:15:01.000 9-11, obviously the 23rd anniversary for 9-11.

02:15:06.000 What are your thoughts?

02:15:07.000 Who do you think was behind it and what are your thoughts on it 23 years later reflecting?

02:15:13.000 Yeah, well, I think that Like, I think Al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden and his gang were certainly a part of it.

02:15:23.000 Yeah, I agree.

02:15:24.000 I think that there's been...

02:15:27.000 So, you know, just to say, like, my, you know, the age that I am, you know, I was 18 when 9-11 happened, and it was, like, I guess in the following years, like...

02:15:41.000 You know, when I was like 19, 20, something like that, is when essentially the internet changed to the point that you could get videos.

02:15:53.000 Like, the internet got strong enough that you could watch a video on it, rather than like, you know, spending all day downloading a picture or whatever.

02:16:01.000 And it was almost like for people of my time, the two incredible innovations of videos online were porn and loose change.

02:16:13.000 Like that was like literally what dominated like the college dorm room that I was in.

02:16:20.000 We're those two things.

02:16:23.000 And essentially, both of them were bad for you.

02:16:28.000 Okay?

02:16:28.000 Neither were good.

02:16:31.000 Okay, so with the loose change thing, I think they got everything wrong, and they had like four versions of that documentary, and they kept changing their theory every time, and I don't think they got it right any one of those times.

02:16:45.000 And also, I think internet porn was very bad for my generation and younger generations of guys.

02:16:51.000 But...

02:16:52.000 I will say that there was something amazing about the fact that people were so skeptical of the criminals in charge of our government that they were willing to, like, really consider this possibility. 0.98

02:17:03.000 And I think, ultimately, one of the guys who made Loose Change even admitted later that they didn't really know what the fuck they were talking about. 0.97

02:17:09.000 They were kids who made a video in college. 0.93

02:17:11.000 But the Truther movement and that thing kind of just, like, grew more and more and more.

02:17:18.000 And I think a lot of that was because The government was so obviously corrupt and lying through their teeth that it just seemed like more and more people were like, well, I'm willing to look at what's happening here and what the other possible outcomes could be,

02:17:34.000 and maybe you guys did this whole thing.

02:17:36.000 I will say that, to me, the 9-11 conspiracy that kind of stands the test of time, that I don't think we have a real answer to, is essentially that those 28 redacted pages do show that there was high-level Saudi involvement in 9-11.

02:17:58.000 And so, okay, if you accept that first step...

02:18:01.000 But once you accept that, If it goes to the top in Saudi Arabia, or I don't know how high it goes, but it goes very close to the top.

02:18:11.000 And if that's true, you kind of have to ask yourself, would Saudi Arabia just do that?

02:18:20.000 Like, are you telling me the government of Saudi Arabia that since the 70s has been propped up and protected by the United States of America, that they would risk I mean, look,

02:18:36.000 they only declassified those 28 pages so many years ago.

02:18:41.000 But, like, U.S. intelligence has known about them from the very beginning.

02:18:46.000 So if the Saudis were going to do this, they would have known. 1.00

02:18:50.000 That U.S. intelligence was going to figure this out at some point.

02:18:53.000 It's not like they could get away with it.

02:18:55.000 And would they really risk that?

02:18:57.000 Does that make any sense?

02:18:59.000 Does it make any sense that they would risk the government that props them up?

02:19:04.000 It almost seems like they would have needed to have permission from, let's say, other governments.

02:19:10.000 And the key players involved would have been...

02:19:15.000 You know, it would have been D.C. and Tel Aviv.

02:19:19.000 That's who you'd need to have permission from in order to like actually feel comfortable to do this.

02:19:24.000 Yeah.

02:19:25.000 And so, you know, my buddy Scott Horton, who's like, I think the most brilliant, the most brilliant foreign policy guy in the United States of America, what he always says, and I think he says this tongue in cheek, but I think only...

02:19:39.000 Only slightly tongue-in-cheek.

02:19:41.000 He was like, well, if anybody should have been waterboarded after 9-11, it should have been the Saudi prince to find out exactly what the hell you knew and who gave you this permission.

02:19:53.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:19:54.000 So I'm open to those conspiracies.

02:19:57.000 I do think there are other conspiracies.

02:19:59.000 I do think that... 0.98

02:20:02.000 The missile hitting the Pentagon and the Building 7 stuff I think is greatly exaggerated, and I think people connect a lot of dots that shouldn't be connected, but there is a real question there of like, what the fuck was going on? 0.84

02:20:16.000 How high up the...

02:20:17.000 And like I'm open to the possibility that maybe it only went so high up the Saudi chain and not all the way to the top, but...

02:20:26.000 It certainly does raise some eyebrows of like who really knew what and who gave permission to who.

02:20:32.000 But I will say what we do know for absolute certain that we don't have to speculate about, we don't have to wonder about, is we know that the neoconservatives had written That they wanted to invade Iraq, that they wanted to fight multiple wars in the Middle East,

02:20:50.000 that they wanted to expand NATO all the way up to Russia's borders, that they wanted to use the unipolar moment and the collapse of the Soviet Union to expand the American empire across the entire globe.

02:21:03.000 And they said in their own words, You can go look this up in the Project for a New American Century.

02:21:08.000 They said in their own words that the only way we'd be able to work up the popular support for this is if we had another Pearl Harbor type event.

02:21:18.000 Yeah.

02:21:18.000 And then they got it.

02:21:20.000 And then they got the rest of it.

02:21:22.000 The Clean Break memo literally outlined everything.

02:21:24.000 And Fresh asked me this question before.

02:21:27.000 Whenever people ask me this, I just say very simply...

02:21:31.000 Israel, Saudi Arabia, the United States all working in tandem, right, with some other players to make this thing happen.

02:21:38.000 Some people dancing.

02:21:38.000 Yeah, some people dancing, of course.

02:21:40.000 I mean, at this point it's irrefutable that we had Israeli intelligence officers taking video and photos of 9-11 and they had You know, pre-knowledge.

02:21:50.000 And that's just like scratching the surface just reading the FBI reports.

02:21:55.000 And some of them are still declassified.

02:21:57.000 But whenever people ask me, I give them the very simple answer is like, it was these three nations working together to make it happen.

02:22:04.000 Obviously, there's a lot more detail than just that.

02:22:06.000 But, you know, it goes a little bit further than saying, oh yeah, it was just Osama, or, oh, it was the dancing Israelis only, or, you know, it was the American deep state.

02:22:13.000 I think all three of those powers working together, and yeah, you make a good point.

02:22:17.000 We've owned Saudi Arabia since Nixon, right? 0.77

02:22:20.000 So why the hell would they go ahead, and when they don't really even have a military like that, and we protect them, and we prop up their country, why would they do something like that without having high levels of guarantee from the United States and from Israel?

02:22:34.000 I agree.

02:22:35.000 Yeah, look, and like, I'm open to almost like, is there an answer to that question?

02:22:40.000 Were there just some Saudis who were that ballsy? 1.00

02:22:42.000 Because also, like, you gotta understand that, like, even at high levels of the Saudi government, I mean, we have, one of Osama bin Laden's chief, like, issues with the U.S. was that we had our bases in their holy land,

02:22:58.000 right?

02:22:59.000 And like, okay, Maybe there were some people within the Saudi power structure who were really furious about that.

02:23:05.000 I'm open to other possibilities about this.

02:23:08.000 And I also think that you don't want to discount the fact that these Al-Qaeda fighters were real people who had real motivations of their own.

02:23:18.000 I mean, Muhammad Atta, who crashed the plane into the North Tower, he was radicalized by Israel killing a bunch of kids in Lebanon.

02:23:28.000 And I think that totally makes sense.

02:23:30.000 You know what I mean?

02:23:31.000 But then the way these things often work, like if you look into a lot of these FBI sting operations that are really more entrapment things, is they kind of find the people who are radicalized, who are ready to go kill some people,

02:23:47.000 and then they bring them into the fold.

02:23:49.000 Now, by the way, it was the... 0.97

02:23:51.000 It's been a little while since I've done this fucking research, but it was... 0.95

02:23:57.000 The CIA, for sure we know, was tracking the guys who crashed the plane into the Pentagon for a while. 0.97

02:24:05.000 And with those stories, there are times where the people are... 0.99

02:24:12.000 Like, they just fuck up, and their actual plan is to thwart it at the end, and then brag about how they stopped this terrorist attack, and they fuck up, and don't do that. 0.75

02:24:24.000 You can go look into the history of the first Al-Qaeda attack on the World Trade Center in 1993, where they totally blew it. 0.99

02:24:31.000 Like, it was an inside job.

02:24:33.000 It was supposed to There's no question that the cover-up has been really shady and that the American people have not been told the truth about it thus far.

02:24:54.000 That's for sure.

02:24:55.000 There are definitely a lot of questions, you know, and I also agree that, yeah, there were terrorists in this.

02:24:59.000 There were planes.

02:25:00.000 Al-Qaeda, you know, obviously did do this, but I think that they were facilitated.

02:25:04.000 Some dude in a cave wouldn't have been able to do this without, you know, it being facilitated to some degree.

02:25:09.000 Because we know for a fact that these dancing Israelis were working for a moving company and they were following around a lot of these terrorists.

02:25:14.000 Hell, they helped them move from Florida to New York, some of them, to set up for this.

02:25:19.000 And not just...

02:25:20.000 Not just that, that those guys ended up getting extradited back to Israel.

02:25:25.000 Yeah.

02:25:25.000 And also that there, it was the, uh, even when there were, um, and again, this is, it's been years since I really dove into this too hard, but there was a double check me on all this, but I'm right about what I'm saying.

02:25:37.000 But they also, the Bush administration got a ton of high level Saudis flown out while they're the, all planes were grounded.

02:25:46.000 Yeah, they did.

02:25:46.000 They were the only flights that were allowed to leave the United States.

02:25:49.000 It's crazy.

02:25:50.000 100% true.

02:25:51.000 And also, a bunch of people got off of work, or took off of work that day.

02:25:54.000 Oh, yeah.

02:25:55.000 Yeah.

02:25:56.000 There's a very big rabbit hole here where, you know, and I forgot to mention.

02:26:00.000 So I would say four counterparts.

02:26:02.000 The United States, Saudi Arabia, Al-Qaeda, obviously, and then Israel.

02:26:06.000 I think these four different entities had different reasons and different roles in the entire thing.

02:26:11.000 But when you really look into 9-11, it's a monster.

02:26:13.000 We did like a whole five-part series on this.

02:26:17.000 Really deep diving on this, but it's something that we might never know.

02:26:21.000 To this day, we still haven't declassified all the JFK documents, and they probably won't fully declassify this stuff either for obvious reasons.

02:26:28.000 But Dave, yeah, so what I'll do is... 0.90

02:26:31.000 Shit, we need to do a part two, man. 0.99

02:26:33.000 We should. 1.00

02:26:33.000 Yeah, we need to do a part two. 1.00

02:26:34.000 This is good, Dave.

02:26:36.000 But Dave, I know it's getting late.

02:26:37.000 Where can I find you, Dave?

02:26:38.000 Yeah, where can I find you, brother?

02:26:41.000 Well, ComicDaveSmith.com is my website.

02:26:44.000 If you want to come see me live, I tour the country all the time.

02:26:47.000 When are you going to be in Miami?

02:26:48.000 Yeah, Florida.

02:26:49.000 When are you going to be in Florida?

02:26:51.000 Or South Florida?

02:26:53.000 Um...

02:26:53.000 I do not know the next time I'm there, but the next time I'm down there, I will definitely hit you guys up.

02:26:58.000 I love coming down to South Florida.

02:27:00.000 It's where I always do, like, Patrick David's show at least a couple times a year.

02:27:06.000 So next time I'm down there, I'll definitely hit you guys up.

02:27:09.000 You know what you should do, bro?

02:27:09.000 You should bring Myron on for your first opening act.

02:27:11.000 That'd be hilarious.

02:27:12.000 I'll do it.

02:27:13.000 I'll do it, Myron.

02:27:14.000 Let's do it!

02:27:15.000 Yeah, I mean...

02:27:16.000 I'll come out, man, and show some support.

02:27:18.000 I definitely will.

02:27:19.000 Like I said, it's interesting.

02:27:20.000 I think the whole profession of comedy is fucking awesome, and it's a way to, especially when you're as controversial as me, you've got to find ways to say what you want to say without getting canceled every week.

02:27:28.000 Actually, I think what he should do is take on the moniker of a comedian. 0.74

02:27:33.000 Because that way he can say what he wants, but it's just comedy.

02:27:35.000 Yeah, you're like, I was just joking around, dude.

02:27:37.000 That was all fun and games.

02:27:38.000 You know what does very well is Zerka.

02:27:39.000 He can say whatever he wants, and it's just comedy because he's a comedian.

02:27:41.000 Yeah.

02:27:42.000 So he doesn't hurt that much.

02:27:44.000 Israel did 9-11. 0.74

02:27:45.000 These are jokes.

02:27:46.000 These are all jokes.

02:27:49.000 I will say this.

02:27:50.000 I want to bring you and Nick together because, I mean, I have to sound like both you guys.

02:27:55.000 I know you and Fresh were talking about it a little bit.

02:27:57.000 I had to step away to get something to drink.

02:27:59.000 But, you know, I think in the future, would you be willing to talk to Nick in the future?

02:28:04.000 Yeah, I guess.

02:28:06.000 I mean, listen, I'm the guy who talked to Nick, like, in the past. 0.87

02:28:10.000 Like, I had Nick on my show after his YouTube channel got banned, because I wanted to have him on to talk about how that was bullshit, and he shouldn't have gotten that.

02:28:20.000 So, I just, I guess my thing with Nick is more like, you know...

02:28:25.000 After, like, it's kind of like on some, like, man code thing, where it's like, I don't know, listen, man, like, I don't know you two.

02:28:32.000 We just met tonight, right?

02:28:33.000 But you guys have been nothing but respectful to me, and so I'm nothing but respectful back to you.

02:28:37.000 That's how I am with everyone.

02:28:39.000 No matter how, like, no matter what your views are, even if your views are considered to be, like, politically incorrect or something dangerous, it's like, okay, well, let me hear what you have to say.

02:28:49.000 Let me see if that makes sense to me. 0.98

02:28:51.000 And so I felt like I always kind of had that with Nick, and I treated him with nothing but respect, and he was respectful to me, and then we always kind of had, at least I thought, this kind of mutual respect, and whenever people would demand that I denounce this fucking kid, 1.00

02:29:09.000 like all the time, and I'd always be like, fuck you! 1.00

02:29:13.000 I'm fucking denouncing this guy. 1.00

02:29:15.000 I had a respectful conversation with him. 1.00

02:29:17.000 Suck my dick. 1.00

02:29:18.000 Because that's how I feel about that. 1.00

02:29:19.000 And then I would always see him, people would send me videos where he was like, hey, Dave's a real one because he won't denounce me.

02:29:26.000 Even with all this pressure, even when he's kind of blowing up and on all these big shows, he still won't do that.

02:29:33.000 So he's kind of a real one.

02:29:35.000 And then Over this last year, I've had the biggest year of my career, and I've been leveling up a little bit. 0.98

02:29:46.000 And then it was like he went out of nowhere to fucking attack me and kind of sick his people on me for nothing. 0.99

02:29:54.000 For literally no reason. 1.00

02:29:56.000 Just to go like, fuck Dave. 1.00

02:29:59.000 Oh, really? 1.00

02:29:59.000 This Jew is the red-pilled guy? 1.00

02:30:02.000 No, I'm the red-pilled guy.

02:30:04.000 And I should be on these shows.

02:30:05.000 But these people won't invite me, they'll only invite him.

02:30:08.000 And so it was kind of like this weird thing where you're like...

02:30:11.000 Alright, that's a little funky to, like, attack me for nothing.

02:30:16.000 And then, and this is really what makes me hesitate about, like, wanting to do a show with Nick or something like that.

02:30:23.000 Because then, I just responded and I was like, really, dude? 1.00

02:30:27.000 Like, alright, fuck you. 1.00

02:30:28.000 Like, whatever. 1.00

02:30:29.000 And then, of all people, Nick Fuentes started, like, hosting years old...

02:30:37.000 Like screenshots of tweets of mine totally taken out of context and then trying to like send his people at me like well look what he said here look what he said there and all of it was like I mean I don't know it was just it was uh to me it was weak it was really fucking lame and so it did it did kind of leave me being like all right dude well then We could just not,

02:31:07.000 you know, whatever. 0.97

02:31:08.000 Like, I don't give a shit. 0.98

02:31:09.000 We're not friends. 0.97

02:31:10.000 We've never met.

02:31:11.000 I mean, we've met in the same way the three of us have met.

02:31:14.000 Like, we've done shows online.

02:31:15.000 Like, I've never been in the same room with the guy.

02:31:17.000 I don't really care. 0.99

02:31:18.000 But it also did just kind of leave me like, alright, that's fucked up. 0.84

02:31:23.000 You kind of, in a weird way, let me know, like, whatever, like, the kind of, like, code as a man that I have, it's like, oh, you don't really have that. 0.99

02:31:30.000 So, like, okay, I don't really need to fuck with you. 0.99

02:31:32.000 So that's kind of how I feel. 0.99

02:31:34.000 I'm not, like, totally against it.

02:31:36.000 I'd have a conversation with him or whatever, but I don't know.

02:31:39.000 I thought it was pretty funky the way he came at me.

02:31:41.000 And I completely see your perspective.

02:31:43.000 I just look at it like, look, you guys are two sharp dudes.

02:31:45.000 Obviously, you know, major respect to you for, you know, people.

02:31:49.000 Because, you know, that's the thing.

02:31:50.000 Oh, do you condemn him?

02:31:51.000 Do you denounce?

02:31:52.000 And you're like, no, I'm not going to do that.

02:31:53.000 And obviously that's like, you know, very strong integrity that's kind of missing in the social media world.

02:31:58.000 So I think like this is something like maybe some disagreements on some situations.

02:32:02.000 Hell, me and you have disagreed on some things on Twitter.

02:32:03.000 But look, we're having a great conversation right now.

02:32:05.000 Well, short, short.

02:32:06.000 But look, I'll just say this, right?

02:32:08.000 And look... 0.97

02:32:09.000 I don't fucking hate Nick Fuentes. 1.00

02:32:11.000 I fucking hate the people who control our goddamn government who are ruining this fucking country, okay? 1.00

02:32:17.000 I have two little kids. 1.00

02:32:19.000 Like, I got a five-year-old and an almost three-year-old, and they're Americans.

02:32:24.000 They're growing up in the United States of America. 1.00

02:32:26.000 All I really care about is the people who are ruining this fucking country for their future. 1.00

02:32:32.000 That's what I'm furious about. 1.00

02:32:34.000 I don't care.

02:32:35.000 I do not get involved.

02:32:37.000 You know, the whole world of, like, influencers who have beef with other influencers, I don't do any of that. 0.99

02:32:42.000 I don't give a shit, you know? 0.99

02:32:44.000 I like to debate ideas, and I like to talk about, like, where the fucking country's going. 0.99

02:32:48.000 So I don't really care about any of that. 0.97

02:32:52.000 All it is is that, you know, like, Nick came out and just goes, After nothing.

02:32:59.000 There was no reason for us to be having a thing.

02:33:02.000 And he comes out and goes, the only reason why Dave's getting invited on these shows is because he's a Jew. 1.00

02:33:09.000 And he's just being used as the token Jew by all these guys.

02:33:13.000 And there is something about that.

02:33:15.000 You know, Myron, I saw that clip the other day, and I don't know the background to it at all.

02:33:19.000 I just saw a 10-second clip of those guys kicking you off the space.

02:33:25.000 Oh yeah, they didn't want to debate me on the Immigration Nationality Act.

02:33:34.000 I'm not one of these new leftists.

02:33:40.000 I'm not hysterical about bigotry. 0.99

02:33:43.000 I don't fucking care. 0.99

02:33:45.000 If you're a racist, whatever the fuck that word even means today, which I'm not labeling anybody, I'm just saying if you do hate someone because of their... 0.99

02:33:57.000 Okay, I don't think that's the worst thing in the world to be. 1.00

02:34:00.000 If you're just like, I fucking hate black people and I don't want to live around black people. 1.00

02:34:04.000 I'd be like, all right, go move to a white neighborhood. 1.00

02:34:07.000 Yeah, pretty much me.

02:34:08.000 That's fine.

02:34:08.000 You know, like, that's fine.

02:34:11.000 He's a comedian.

02:34:11.000 A lot of us do.

02:34:13.000 But if you were like, hey, I don't like Jews. 1.00

02:34:15.000 I don't want to listen to any shows where a Jew's on. 1.00

02:34:17.000 It's like, okay, cool.

02:34:19.000 So then don't listen.

02:34:20.000 You know, like, I don't really care. 1.00

02:34:22.000 But if someone, but at the same time, as I'm sure you could kind of understand, Myron, if someone's like, hey, fuck you, nigger, get off my fucking stream, it's kind of like, okay. 1.00

02:34:33.000 I just don't really need to talk to those people anymore. 1.00

02:34:36.000 Like, you know, I'm not like appalled or anything like that.

02:34:39.000 But if you're really saying that, like, you're gonna tell me, like, I'm only on these shows because I'm a Jew?

02:34:46.000 Like, yeah, I don't know.

02:34:48.000 I think there's a little bit more to it than that.

02:34:50.000 You know, like, I do a pretty good job on the shows that I come on. 0.99

02:34:54.000 Like, I got some shit to say. 0.91

02:34:56.000 So, like, it would just, I certainly, I would never I've always said, if people bring Nick up, when you mentioned his name earlier, I said, Nick's a real talented guy. 0.99

02:35:05.000 I would never have, like, downplayed what he has to say to the level of, like, oh, he's only there because he's lucky, or he's only there because he's Catholic, or whatever the fuck the thing is, you know?

02:35:17.000 So, like, I don't know.

02:35:18.000 That did just kind of rub me the wrong way, where it was like, alright, so...

02:35:22.000 You know like I'm sure you've had things before in life where if there's a guy it's kind of like just a man thing where if there's a guy who you were like cool to who you showed respect to and then they like kind of wildly disrespect you you'd be like all right you're done it doesn't have to be a whole thing it doesn't have to be a beef I don't hate you I wish you the best of luck yeah But I'm at it.

02:35:44.000 I'm done with that.

02:35:46.000 That's kind of how I feel right now.

02:35:48.000 Okay.

02:35:48.000 Well, like I said before, I think when people have certain viewpoints, they need to stick together and align.

02:35:55.000 Like I said, I see your perspective for sure, but I think it's maybe just a misunderstanding.

02:36:02.000 Regardless, Dave, thank you so much for coming on the show, bro.

02:36:04.000 It was really enjoyable talking to you.

02:36:06.000 Pause, no mo. 1.00

02:36:08.000 We're going to be doing our after-hour show, guys, here in a little bit.

02:36:10.000 We'll start in probably the next 10 or 15 minutes or so.

02:36:13.000 Dave, I'll hit you up on the side.

02:36:15.000 And thank you so much for coming on the pod, bro.

02:36:17.000 I'll give you the last word.

02:36:18.000 Anything you want to say to people?

02:36:19.000 Nah, man.

02:36:20.000 Thank you guys very much.

02:36:21.000 I really enjoyed it.

02:36:22.000 I appreciate you guys for having me on.

02:36:24.000 Let's do it again sometime.

02:36:25.000 Thank you, Dave.

02:36:25.000 Absolutely, man.

02:36:26.000 Take it easy, Dave.

02:36:26.000 Be safe.

02:36:27.000 All right.

02:36:28.000 Later, guys.

02:36:28.000 Have a good one, guys.

02:36:29.000 Peace.

02:36:32.000 I'm far away.

02:36:34.000 I just ran.

02:36:37.000 I ran for an island in.

Fresh & Fit - September 11, 2024

Dave Smith On 9-11, RUS-URK & Israel War, Libertarian, 2024 Presidential Debate & MORE!

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