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00:18:19.000I am very much ingrained in US politics as well as global geopolitics.
00:18:23.000I think it's imperative and important to know exactly what's happening in the US for the entire world.
00:18:32.000As an example, I always say this, like people are like, why are you bothered about US politics?
00:18:36.000The reason is because US politics impacts the whole world, not just from a foreign policy perspective, but also from an internal policy perspective.
00:18:53.000And so intrinsically, both internally, the UK economics is reliant on America, as is externally foreign policy.
00:18:59.000So anyone outside of America who's not bothered about US policy is literally, as you would say, like a retard because it's imperative to know.
00:19:07.000Yeah, and to be honest with you, I've said this before, I'll say it again.
00:19:11.000The number one reason for me why I'm voting and why I think you need to vote, especially on this election if you're someone that's impartial or you don't care, is because of foreign policy.
00:19:20.000I think foreign policy is the one thing that you can't control, right?
00:19:26.000For example, if inflation is through the roof and things are expensive, etc., you can always make more money and kind of overcome that, right?
00:19:34.000Whoever's in office isn't going to dictate the quality of your life.
00:19:38.000But us getting into foreign conflicts or sticking our nose in certain areas or putting ourselves in a bad position in a foreign way, that's dictated by the government.
00:19:46.000You can't really control that as a private citizen.
00:19:48.000So you definitely need to put people in office that are going to be anti-war, not warmongers, not war hawks, whatever it may be, these neocon fucks.
00:19:54.000So, I think that's one of the most important things.
00:19:57.000And obviously, you pay attention from that perspective too, because like you just explained, American foreign policy dictates how the rest of the world works.
00:20:35.000Got a whole community over there, guys, where we got 19 different chapters in 19 different cities where you can join in and we have group chats where you guys can network and meet these people.
00:22:58.000So this is going to be a situation where I truly think that this is probably going to be the better debaters going to come out on top because you're not going to be influenced by the crowd or people butting in and making side comments here or there.
00:23:08.000So I think this actually benefits Trump more.
00:23:11.000Because one of the criticisms of Trump is that, you know, he has a bad habit of interrupting, if I'm not mistaken.
00:23:16.000They counted up one time when he debated Biden, he interrupted him like 51 times or something like that.
00:23:21.000So I think this format will actually benefit him.
00:23:55.000Remember, this is from somebody who thinks you shouldn't vote for Trump.
00:23:59.000But Trump is showing that, look, I'm willing to go any place, any time, anywhere to debate you.
00:24:05.000And this is a prime example where they're basically debating on ABC, a Democrat-friendly channel, as opposed to Fox.
00:24:12.000And Kamala, as far as I know, has up to now refused to debate on Fox.
00:24:16.000Yeah, and Kamala has also refused to go on adversarial news stations as well for an interview.
00:24:23.000She did, I think it was CNN, which, you know, that was a very soft-pitched interview, and she did it with Tim Waltz right there beside her.
00:25:21.000She starts doing rallies, she starts putting out press releases, etc.
00:25:25.000And one thing that Kamala's camp did very well, which I will give her credit for, is They didn't put her on adversarial networks to do interviews.
00:26:44.000But I think she's made some mistakes as well.
00:26:47.000And I think Trump's made some mistakes.
00:26:48.000Because if you look at it, what's happened is, you basically, as you said, Kamala comes in, they have a huge surge in the polls, a huge surge in everything.
00:26:56.000And that's before Trump has the assassination attempt.
00:26:59.000He tells his team not to focus on the assassination attempt.
00:27:07.000And it's a very failed campaign directive.
00:27:11.000And so you see his numbers dwindle and you see Kamala's explode, both in terms of her coming on, both in terms of, as you said, the way her campaign was run.
00:27:20.000She was really doing well on TikTok and various other mediums with these little TikTok shots.
00:27:25.000And then what happened was she made mistakes as well because you're right that she tried to stay away from the media, but that only works to a point.
00:27:33.000And you can see now that's having a negative impact on the polls.
00:27:36.000In a number of the polls, Trump is ahead.
00:27:38.000Now, I don't accept polymarket because we know it's like Peter Thiel control, but there's other ones that are still showing Trump ahead, although there is one showing her ahead.
00:27:45.000I think this debate is monumental because if she manages to do well on this debate or do better than Trump, It's going to monumentally impact the election.
00:27:56.000Yeah, and I agree with you that you can only run from not doing adversarial interviews for so long, right?
00:28:03.000She was able to kind of coast on it for a while, but now the debate has kind of come and she's going to have to put her feet to the fire.
00:28:24.000I agree with you that, you know, I literally said this when I was on the Hodgson's podcast.
00:28:28.000I said, because they asked me, hey, if they were to have the election now, who do you think would win?
00:28:32.000And at that point, I said, dude, I think she could win.
00:28:35.000And I would argue, even right now, as me and you were speaking to Suleiman, it would, she...
00:28:39.000If we've had the election right now, this very minute, there's a good chance she could win, right?
00:28:43.000We're neck and neck right now in this situation.
00:28:44.000I think this debate is going to be the tiebreaker that's going to dictate everything because the problem with the Trump campaign is they've alienated the very core group of people that supported them the hardest back in 2016.
00:28:56.000He's taken far less conservative stances on abortion, marijuana usage, Migration is a big one that has people angry.
00:29:04.000He made the comment about, you know, hey, we need to staple green cards to degrees, right?
00:29:09.000This is something that he disavowed Project 2025.
00:29:13.000Obviously, we've got the Graper War going on right now because, you know, they feel as though Trump is kind of Fell back on a lot of his original campaigning stances that he had in 2016 that put him in office.
00:29:23.000I mean, I kind of see their perspective.
00:29:26.000I mean, he's essentially become the politician he ran against in 2016 when he came in originally and he said, we're going to drain the swamp, we're going to get rid of the deep state, we're going to make America great again, etc.
00:29:54.000You've just made a very, very strong argument of why people should not vote for Trump, right?
00:30:00.000Because literally, you've got a scenario where if you, based on everything you've said, and I completely agree with what you said, Why would you vote for Trump?
00:30:09.000Now, if you make the argument a lesser of two evils, he's going to be slightly better.
00:30:14.000The problem with that is, is you're accepting that this is what American politics is going to be forever.
00:30:20.000And you're basically giving up your sovereignty.
00:30:24.000This is what your podcast is about, isn't it?
00:30:25.000Being an alpha male, having your own autonomy, having your own decision making.
00:30:30.000You're literally saying, I'm willing to be basically a slave to...
00:30:34.000To the establishment because Trump had to sell out and we still voted for him.
00:30:39.000I think that's why it's important that actually you withhold your vote and say, and you impact the election to say that actually you alienated the GOP, the Republicans, the Conservatives and all of the men of the Myers that you said.
00:31:55.000Dick Cheney, who's a fucking neocon war hawk, warmonger.
00:32:00.000The guy was one of the architects for the Iraqi war in 2003.
00:32:04.000So I think bringing Kamala in is going to create a lot of problems for us from a foreign...
00:32:12.000And then on top of that, Russia's kind of spiking up their attack on Ukraine.
00:32:16.000So I think if anything right now, we need to be focusing on bringing someone in that's going to be anti-war and de-escalating the situations going on in Israel and de-escalating the situations going on in Ukraine.
00:32:27.000I think Kamala coming in would only embolden our enemies to take stronger actions in their conflicts.
00:32:57.000So with that, I just feel like we've got no evidence that Trump's going to be better based on his words, and we can only rely on his words.
00:33:03.000I know we have enough time, but based on his words, it seems to suggest that he's going to be worse.
00:33:24.000A historic race for president upended just weeks ago.
00:33:27.000President Biden withdrawing after his last debate.
00:33:30.000Donald Trump now up against a new opponent.
00:33:32.000The candidates separated by the smallest of margins, essentially tied in the polls nationally and in the key battlegrounds, including right here in Pennsylvania, all still very much in play.
00:33:42.000The ABC News presidential debate starts right now.
00:34:03.000This is literally going to make or break the race for Trump because Kamala's been edging him.
00:34:08.000This is a very tight race and we're going to need to show that she's incompetent.
00:34:11.000I think that's what Trump's strategy needs to be, needs to show that she's incompetent, her policies don't work, she's a copycat, and she's faking it.
00:36:38.000We know that we have a shortage of homes and housing.
00:36:42.000And the cost of housing is too expensive for far too many people.
00:36:45.000We know that young families need support.
00:36:49.000To raise their children and I intend on extending a tax cut for those families of $6,000, which is the largest child tax credit that we have given in a long time, so that those young families can afford to buy a crib, buy a car seat,
00:37:19.000My plan is to give a $50,000 tax deduction to start up small businesses, knowing they are part of the backbone of America's economy.
00:37:29.000My opponent, on the other hand, his plan is to do what he has done before.
00:37:34.000Which is to provide a tax cut for billionaires and big corporations, which will result in $5 trillion to America's deficit.
00:37:42.000My opponent has a plan that I call the Trump's sales tax, which would be a 20% tax on everyday goods that you rely on to get through the month.
00:37:53.000Economists have said that that Trump sales tax would actually result for middle class families in about $4,000 more a year because of his policies and his ideas about what should be the backs of middle class people paying for tax cuts for billionaires.
00:38:13.000President Trump, I'll give you two minutes.
00:40:07.000We are going to get to immigration and border security during this debate, but I would like to let Vice President Harris respond on the economy here.
00:40:16.000Let's talk about what Donald Trump left us.
00:40:19.000Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression.
00:40:25.000Donald Trump left us the worst public health epidemic in a century.
00:40:31.000Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War.
00:40:39.000And what we have done is clean up Donald Trump's mess.
00:40:43.000What we have done and what I intend to do is build on what we know are the aspirations and the hopes of the American people.
00:40:49.000But I'm going to tell you all, on this debate tonight, you're going to hear from the same old tired playbook.
00:40:55.000A bunch of lies, grievances, and name calling.
00:40:59.000What you're going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected to again.
00:41:10.000I believe very strongly that the American people want a president who understands the importance of bringing us together knowing we have so much more in common than what separates us.
00:41:21.000And I pledge to you to be a president for all Americans.
00:41:24.000President Trump will give you a minute here to respond.
00:41:26.000Number one, I have nothing to do, as you know, and as she knows better than anyone, I have nothing to do with Project 2025.
00:42:46.000And when you look at his economic plan, it's all about tax breaks for the richest people.
00:42:51.000I am offering what I describe as an opportunity economy, and the best economists in our country, if not the world, have reviewed our relative plans for the future of America.
00:43:03.000What Goldman Sachs has said is that Donald Trump's plan would make the economy worse, mine would strengthen the economy.
00:43:11.000What the Wharton School has said is Donald Trump's plan would actually explode the deficit.
00:43:18.000Sixteen Nobel laureates have described his economic plan as something that would increase inflation and by the middle of next year would invite a recession.
00:43:28.000You just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues.
00:43:32.000And I'd invite you to know that Donald Trump actually has no plan for you because he is more interested in defending himself than he is in looking out for you.
00:43:45.000I went to the Wharton School of Finance and many of those professors, the top professors, think my plan is a brilliant plan.
00:44:24.000President, I do want to drill down on something you both brought up.
00:44:27.000The Vice President brought up your tariffs.
00:44:29.000You responded, and let's drill down on this.
00:44:31.000Because your plan is what she calls is essentially a national sales tax.
00:44:35.000Your proposal calls for tariffs, as you pointed out here, on foreign imports across the board.
00:44:39.000You recently said that you might double your plan, imposing tariffs up to 20 percent on goods coming into this country.
00:44:45.000As you know, many economists say that with tariffs at that level, costs are then passed on to the consumer.
00:44:51.000Vice President Harris has argued it'll mean higher prices on gas, food, clothing, medication, arguing it costs the typical family nearly $4,000 a year.
00:45:00.000Do you believe Americans can afford higher prices because of tariffs?
00:45:03.000They're not going to have higher prices.
00:45:05.000What's going to have and who's going to have higher prices is China and all of the countries that have been ripping us off for years.
00:46:12.000Well, let's be clear that the Trump administration resulted in a trade deficit, one of the highest we've ever seen in the history of America.
00:46:22.000You want to talk about his deal with China?
00:46:25.000What he ended up doing is, under Donald Trump's presidency, he ended up selling American chips to China.
00:46:32.000To help them improve and modernize their military, basically sold us out, when a policy about China should be in making sure the United States of America wins the competition for the 21st century, which means focusing on the details of what that requires,
00:46:50.000focusing on relationships with our allies, focusing on investing in American-based technology so that we win the race on AI, on quantum computing.
00:47:00.000Focusing on what we need to do to support America's workforce so that we don't end up having on the short end of the stick in terms of workers' rights.
00:47:11.000But what Donald Trump did, let's talk about this, with COVID, is he actually thanked President Xi.
00:47:18.000For what he did during COVID. Look at his tweet.
00:47:24.000When we know that Xi was responsible for lacking and not giving us transparency about the origins of COVID. President Trump will let you respond.
00:47:33.000First of all, they bought their chips from Taiwan.
00:47:36.000We hardly make chips anymore because of philosophies like they have and policies like they have.
00:47:43.000I don't say her because she has no policy.
00:47:45.000Everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window.
00:48:03.000Her father's a Marxist professor in economics, and he taught her well.
00:48:08.000But when you look at what she's done to our country And when you look at these millions and millions of people that are pouring into our country monthly, where it's, I believe, 21 million people, not the 15 that people say.
00:48:20.000And I think it's a lot higher than the 21.
00:48:23.000That's bigger than New York State pouring in.
00:48:25.000And just look at what they're doing to our country.
00:48:58.000You said that you were proud to be the most pro-life president in American history.
00:49:03.000Then last month, you said that your administration would be great for women and their reproductive rights.
00:49:08.000In your home state of Florida, you surprised many with regard to your six-week abortion ban because you initially had said that it was too short.
00:49:16.000And you said, quote, I'm going to be voting that we need More than six weeks.
00:49:20.000But then, the very next day, you reversed course and said you would vote to support the six-week ban.
00:49:25.000Vice President Harris says that women shouldn't trust you on the issue of abortion because you've changed your position so many times.
00:49:35.000Well, the reason I'm doing that vote is because the plan is, as you know, the vote is, they have abortion in the ninth month.
00:49:43.000They even have, and you can look at the governor of West Virginia, the previous governor of West Virginia, not the current governor who's doing an excellent job, but the governor before.
00:49:52.000He said, the baby will be born and we will decide what to do with the baby.
00:49:56.000In other words, we'll execute the baby.
00:49:58.000And that's why I did that, because that predominates.
00:50:56.000But we were able to get it, and now states are voting on it.
00:51:00.000And for the first time, you're going to see, look, this is an issue that's torn our country apart for 52 years.
00:51:07.000Every legal scholar, every Democrat, every Republican, liberal, conservative, they all wanted this issue to be brought back to the states where the people could vote.
00:51:57.000Donald Trump hand-selected three members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention that they would undo the protections of Roe v.
00:52:39.000And one does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree.
00:52:46.000The government and Donald Trump certainly should not be telling a woman what to do with her body.
00:52:52.000I have talked with women around our country.
00:52:56.000You want to talk about this is what people wanted?
00:52:59.000Pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term, suffering from a miscarriage, being denied care in an emergency room because the healthcare providers are afraid they might go to jail, and she's bleeding out in a car in the parking lot?
00:53:25.000And I pledge to you, when Congress passes a bill to put back in place the protections of Roe v.
00:53:32.000Wade as President of the United States, I will proudly sign it into law.
00:53:38.000But understand, if Donald Trump were to be re-elected, he will sign a national abortion ban.
00:53:44.000Understand, in his Project 2025, there would be a national abortion, a monitor, that would be monitoring your pregnancies, your miscarriages.
00:53:56.000That certain freedoms, in particular the freedom to make decisions about one's own body, should not be made by the government.
00:54:40.000And as far as the abortion ban, no, I'm not in favor of abortion ban, but it doesn't matter because this issue has now been taken over by the states.
00:54:49.000Would you veto a national abortion ban if it came to your desk?
00:54:52.000Well, I won't have to because, again, two things.
00:54:54.000Number one, she said she'll go back to Congress.
00:56:21.000So it doesn't matter what she says about going to Congress.
00:56:23.000So wonderful, let's go to Congress, do it.
00:56:25.000But the fact is that for years they wanted to get it out of Congress and out of the federal government.
00:56:30.000And we did something that everybody said couldn't be done.
00:56:32.000And now you have a vote of the people on abortion.
00:56:36.000Vice President Harris, I want to give you your time to respond, but I do want to ask, would you support any restrictions on a woman's right to an abortion?
00:56:43.000I absolutely support reinstating the protections of Roe v.
00:57:17.000Working people, working women who are working one or two jobs, who can barely afford childcare as it is, have to travel to another state to get on a plane sitting next to strangers to go and get the healthcare she needs.
00:57:35.000Barely can afford to do it, and what you are putting her through is unconscionable.
00:57:42.000And the people of America have not, the majority of Americans believe in a woman's right to make decisions about her own body, and that is why in every state where this issue has been on the ballot, in red and blue states both, the people of America have voted for freedom.
00:58:22.000They know that and everybody else knows it.
00:58:24.000I have been a leader on fertilization, IVF. And the other thing, they, you should ask, will she allow abortion in the eighth month, ninth month, seventh month?
00:59:00.000We're going to turn now to immigration and border security.
00:59:02.000We know it's an issue that's important to Republicans, Democrats, voters across the board in this country.
00:59:07.000Vice President Harris, you were tasked by President Biden with getting to the root causes of migration from Central America.
00:59:13.000We know that illegal border crossings reached a record high in the Biden administration.
00:59:18.000This past June, President Biden imposed tough new asylum restrictions.
00:59:21.000We know the numbers since then have dropped significantly.
00:59:25.000But my question to you tonight is, why did the administration wait until six months before the election to act?
00:59:30.000And would you have done anything differently from President Biden on this?
00:59:34.000So I'm the only person on this stage who has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations for the trafficking of guns, drugs, and human beings.
00:59:43.000And let me say that the United States Congress, including some of the most conservative members of the United States Senate, came up with a border security bill which I supported.
00:59:54.000And that bill would have put 1,500 more border agents on the border to help those folks who are working there right now over time trying to do their job.
01:00:04.000It would have allowed us to stem the flow of fentanyl coming into the United States.
01:00:10.000I know there are so many families watching tonight who have been personally affected by the surge of fentanyl in our country.
01:00:16.000That bill would have put more resources to allow us to prosecute transnational criminal organizations for trafficking in guns, drugs, and human beings.
01:00:25.000But you know what happened to that bill?
01:00:27.000Donald Trump got on the phone, called up some folks in Congress, and said, kill the bill.
01:00:33.000Because he'd prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem.
01:00:39.000And understand, this comes at a time where the people of our country actually need a leader who engages in solutions, who actually addresses the problems at hand.
01:00:52.000But what we have in the former president is someone who would prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem.
01:00:58.000And I'll tell you something, he's going to talk about immigration a lot tonight, even when it's not the subject that is being raised.
01:01:03.000And I'm going to actually do something really unusual, and I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies, because it's a really interesting thing to watch.
01:01:12.000You will see during the course of his rallies, he talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter.
01:01:17.000He will talk about windmills cause cancer.
01:01:21.000And what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom.
01:01:27.000And I will tell you, the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you.
01:01:31.000You will not hear him talk about your needs, your dreams, and your desires.
01:01:35.000And I'll tell you, I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first.
01:01:46.000Let me just ask, though, why did you try to kill that bill, and successfully so, that would have put thousands of additional agents and officers on the border?
01:01:52.000First, let me respond just to the rallies.
01:02:19.000And it happened three and a half years ago.
01:02:22.000And what's going on here, you're going to end up in World War III, just to go into another subject.
01:02:28.000What they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come into our country and look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States.
01:02:38.000And a lot of towns don't want to talk.
01:02:39.000It's not going to be Aurora or Springfield.
01:02:41.000A lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it.
01:02:45.000In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in.
01:03:13.000She's destroying this country, and if she becomes president, this country doesn't have a chance of success.
01:03:20.000Not only success, we'll end up being Venezuela on steroids.
01:03:24.000I just want to clarify here, you bring up Springfield, Ohio, and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there.
01:03:30.000He told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals within the immigrant community.
01:04:04.000You know, this is, I think, one of the reasons why in this election I actually have the endorsement of 200 Republicans who have formally worked with President Bush, Mitt Romney, and John McCain,
01:04:19.000including the endorsement of former Vice President Dick Cheney and Congressmember Liz Cheney.
01:04:26.000And if you want to really know the inside track on who the former president is, if he didn't make it clear already, just ask people who have worked with him.
01:04:37.000His former chief of staff of four-star general has said he is contempt for the Constitution of the United States.
01:04:43.000His former national security adviser has said he is dangerous and unfit.
01:04:48.000His former Secretary of Defense has said the nation, the Republic, would never survive another Trump term.
01:04:57.000And when we listen to this kind of rhetoric, when the issues that affect the American people are not being addressed, I think the choice is clear in this election.
01:05:08.000President Trump will give you a quick minute to respond.
01:05:11.000Thank you, because when I hear that, see, I'm a different kind of a person.
01:05:24.000They didn't fire anybody having to do with Afghanistan and the Taliban and the 13 people who were just killed, viciously and violently killed.
01:05:33.000And I got to know the parents and the family.
01:05:35.000They should have fired all those generals, all those top people, because that was one of the most incompetently handled situations anybody has ever seen.
01:05:45.000So when somebody does a bad job, I fire him.
01:08:32.000I'll let you respond, Vice President Harris.
01:08:33.000Well, I think this is so rich, coming from someone who has been prosecuted.
01:08:39.000For national security crimes, economic crimes, election interference, has been found liable for sexual assault, and his next big court appearance is in November at his own criminal sentencing.
01:08:55.000And let's be clear, where each person stands on the issue of what is important about respect for the rule of law and respect for law enforcement.
01:09:05.000The former vice president called for defunding federal law enforcement, 45,000 agents, get this, on the day after he was arraigned on 34 felony counts.
01:09:17.000So let's talk about what is important in this race.
01:09:21.000It is important that we move forward, that we turn the page on this same old tired rhetoric and address the needs of the American people, address what we need to do about the housing shortage, which I have a plan for,
01:09:37.000address what we must do to support our small businesses, address bringing down the price of groceries.
01:09:43.000But frankly, the American people are exhausted with this same old tired playbook.
01:10:09.000They weaponized the Justice Department.
01:10:11.000Every one of those cases was involved with the DOJ, from Atlanta and Fawney Willis to the Attorney General of New York and the DA in New York.
01:10:53.000A really quick response here, Vice President Harris, on this notion of weaponization of the Justice Department.
01:10:57.000Well, let's talk about extreme and understand the context in which this election in 2024 is taking place.
01:11:03.000The United States Supreme Court recently ruled that the former president would essentially be immune from any misconduct if he were to enter the White House again.
01:11:14.000Understand this is someone who has openly said he would terminate, I'm quoting, terminate the Constitution of the United States.
01:11:22.000That he would weaponize the Department of Justice against his political enemies.
01:11:28.000Someone who has openly expressed disdain For members of our military, understand what it would mean if Donald Trump were back in the White House with no guardrails.
01:11:40.000Because certainly we know now the court won't stop him.
01:11:43.000We know J.D. Vance is not going to stop him.
01:12:47.000I have not banned fracking as Vice President of the United States.
01:12:49.000And in fact, I was the tie-breaking vote on the Inflation Reduction Act, which opened new leases for fracking.
01:12:58.000My position is that we have got to invest in diverse sources of energy so we reduce our reliance on foreign oil.
01:13:07.000We have had the largest increase in domestic oil production in history because of an approach that recognizes that we cannot over rely on foreign oil.
01:13:19.000As it relates to my values, let me tell you, I grew up a middle class kid raised by a hard working mother.
01:13:26.000Who worked and saved and was able to buy our first home when I was a teenager.
01:13:31.000The values I bring to the importance of home ownership, knowing not everybody got handed $400 million on a silver platter and then filed bankruptcy six times.
01:13:41.000Is a value that I bring to my work to say we are going to work with the private sector and home builders to increase 3 million homes, increase by 3 million homes by the end of my first term.
01:13:53.000My work that is related to having a friend when I was in high school who was sexually assaulted by her stepfather.
01:14:00.000And my focus then on protecting women and children from violent crime is based on a value that is deeply grounded in the importance of standing up for those who are most vulnerable.
01:14:11.000My work that is about protecting Social Security and Medicare is based on long-standing work that I have done, protecting seniors from scams.
01:14:23.000And what is important is that there is a president who actually brings values and a perspective that is about lifting people up and not beating people down and name-calling.
01:14:36.000The true measure of the leader Is the leader who actually understands the strength is not in beating people down, it's in lifting people up.
01:15:42.000She went out in Minnesota and wanted to let criminals that killed people, that burned down Minneapolis, she went out and raised money to get them out of jail.
01:15:52.000She did things that nobody would ever think of.
01:15:54.000Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison.
01:16:00.000This is a radical left liberal that would do this.
01:16:03.000She wants to confiscate your guns and she will never allow fracking in Pennsylvania.
01:16:09.000If she won the election, fracking in Pennsylvania will end on day one.
01:16:13.000Just to finish, one thing so important in my opinion.
01:16:16.000So I got the oil business going like nobody has ever done before.
01:16:21.000They took, when they took over, they got rid of it, started getting rid of it, and the prices were going up the roof.
01:16:28.000They immediately let these guys go to where they were.
01:16:33.000I would have been five times, four times, five times higher, because you're talking about three and a half years ago.
01:16:39.000They got it up to where I was because they had no choice, because the prices of energy were quadrupling and doubling.
01:17:20.000And I want to talk about the peaceful transfer of power, which, of course, we all know is a cornerstone of our democracy and the role of a president in a moment of crisis.
01:20:23.000And on that day, the President of the United States incited a violent mob to attack our nation's Capitol, to desecrate our nation's Capitol.
01:20:36.000On that day, 140 law enforcement officers were injured, and some died.
01:20:42.000And understand, the former president has been indicted and impeached for exactly that reason.
01:20:50.000But this is not an isolated situation.
01:20:53.000Let's remember Charlottesville, where there was a mob of people carrying tiki torches, spewing anti-Semitic hate.
01:21:04.000And what did the president then at the time say?
01:21:34.000And if that was a bridge too far for you, well, there is a place in our campaign for you to stand for country, to stand for our democracy, to stand for rule of law, and to end the chaos.
01:21:52.000And to end the approach that is about attacking the foundations of our democracy because you don't like the outcome.
01:22:03.000Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election there will be a bloodbath if this and the outcome of this election is not to his liking.
01:23:11.000To Washington, D.C., during this debate, because we're wasting a lot of time, go down to, because she's been so bad, it's so ridiculous, go down to Washington, D.C., and let her sign a bill to close up the border, because they have the right to do it.
01:23:27.000The President of the United States, you'll get them out of bed, you'll wake them up at 4 o'clock in the afternoon, you'll say, come on, come on down to the office, let's sign a bill.
01:23:34.000If he signs a bill that the border is closed, all he has to do is say it to the Border Patrol, who are phenomenal.
01:23:41.000If they do that, the border is closed.
01:23:44.000Those people are killing many people, unlike J6. We talked immigration here tonight.
01:23:48.000I do want to focus on this next issue to both of you, because it really brings us this into focus, truth in these times that we're living in.
01:23:56.000President, for three and a half years after you lost the 2020 election, you repeatedly falsely claimed that you won, many times saying you won in a landslide.
01:24:04.000In the past couple of weeks leading up to this debate, you have said, quote, you lost by a whisker, that you, quote, didn't quite make it, that you came up a little bit short.
01:25:12.000And we should just point out here as clarification, and you know this, you and your allies, 60 cases in front of many judges, many of them Republican.
01:25:35.000If you look at the facts, and I'd love to have you do a special on it, I'll show you Georgia, and I'll show you Wisconsin, and I'll show you Pennsylvania.
01:26:21.000About this upcoming election just weeks away.
01:26:23.000He said, when I win, those people who cheated, and then he lists donors, voters, election officials, he says, will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, which will include long-term prison sentences.
01:26:34.000One of your campaign's top lawyers responded, saying, we won't let Donald Trump intimidate us.
01:26:49.000And clearly he is having a very difficult time processing that.
01:26:53.000But we cannot afford to have a President of the United States who attempts, as he did in the past, to upend the will of the voters in a free and fair election.
01:27:06.000And I'm going to tell you that I have traveled the world as Vice President of the United States.
01:27:12.000And world leaders are laughing at Donald Trump.
01:27:15.000I have talked with military leaders, some of whom worked with you, and they say you're a disgrace.
01:27:22.000And when you then talk in this way, in a presidential debate, and deny what over and over again are court cases you have lost because you did, in fact, lose that election, it leads one to believe that perhaps we do not have in the candidate to my right the temperament Or the ability to not be confused about fact.
01:28:48.000He said the most respected, most feared person is Donald Trump.
01:28:53.000We had no problems when Trump was president.
01:28:56.000But when this weak, pathetic man that you saw at a debate just a few months ago, that if he weren't in that debate, he'd be running instead of her.
01:29:34.000Turning now to the Israel-Hamas war and the hostages who are still being held, Americans among them.
01:29:39.000Vice President Harris, in December, you said Israel has a right to defend itself, but you added, quote, it matters how, saying international humanitarian law must be respected, Israel must do more to protect innocent civilians.
01:29:52.000You said that nine months ago, now an estimated 40,000 Palestinians are dead.
01:30:53.000And the way it will end is we need a ceasefire deal and we need the hostages out.
01:30:58.000And so we will continue to work around the clock on that.
01:31:02.000Work around the clock also understanding that we must chart a course for a two-state solution.
01:31:08.000And in that solution, there must be security for the Israeli people and Israel and in equal measure for the Palestinians.
01:31:17.000But the one thing I will assure you always, I will always give Israel the ability to defend itself, in particular as it relates to Iran and any threat that Iran and its proxies pose to Israel.
01:31:31.000But we must have a two-state solution where we can rebuild Gaza, where the Palestinians have security, self-determination, and the dignity they so rightly deserve.
01:31:42.000President Trump, how would you negotiate with Netanyahu and also Hamas in order to get the hostages out and prevent the killing of more innocent civilians in Gaza?
01:31:52.000If I were president, it would have never started.
01:31:55.000If I were president, Russia would have never, ever, I know Putin very well, he would have never, and there was no threat of it either, by the way, for four years, have gone into Ukraine and killed millions of people when you add it up.
01:32:08.000Far worse than people understand what's going on over there.
01:32:11.000But when she mentions about Israel, all of a sudden she hates Israel.
01:32:16.000She wouldn't even meet with Netanyahu when he went to Congress to make a very important speech.
01:32:22.000She refused to be there because she was at a sorority party of hers.
01:32:25.000She wanted to go to the sorority party.
01:33:57.000He's trying to, again, divide and distract from the reality, which is it is very well known that Donald Trump is weak and wrong on national security and foreign policy.
01:34:10.000It is well known that he admires dictators, Wants to be a dictator on day one, according to himself.
01:34:17.000It is well known that he said of Putin that he can do whatever the hell he wants and go into Ukraine.
01:34:26.000It is well known that he said when Russia went into Ukraine, it was brilliant.
01:34:32.000It is well known he exchanged love letters with Kim Jong-un.
01:34:38.000And it is absolutely well known that these dictators and autocrats are rooting for you to be president again because they're so clear.
01:34:47.000They can manipulate you with flattery and favors.
01:34:54.000So many military leaders who you have worked with have told me you are a disgrace.
01:35:01.000That is why we understand that we have to have a president who is not consistently weak and wrong on national security including the importance of upholding and respecting in highest regard our military.
01:35:20.000That's weak on national security by allowing every nation last month for the year, 168 different countries sending people into our country.
01:35:50.000Why does Biden go in and kill the Keystone Pipeline and approve the single biggest deal that Russia's ever made, Nord Stream 2, the biggest pipeline anywhere in the world going to Germany and all over Europe?
01:36:02.000Because they're weak and they're ineffective.
01:36:05.000And Biden, by the way, gets paid a lot of money.
01:36:09.000We'll be right back with much more of this historic ABC News presidential debate from the National Constitution Center right here in Philadelphia.
01:36:30.000I mean, look, I'm really enjoying this debate.
01:36:32.000I think Kamala Harris is shading it because, don't get me wrong, there's certain issues that Trump's done better.
01:36:38.000There's certain issues that she's done better.
01:36:40.000But overall, I mean, she is doing much better in the debate.
01:36:44.000And we said this at the beginning of the program.
01:36:46.000If Kamala Harris does better in this debate, She's going to be significantly in favour, or in favour of a position, to win the presidential election.
01:37:56.000These are things that she's not even strong in in some of these positions and he can absolutely like embarrass her and make her look stupid.
01:38:01.000So, you know, I think he needs to do that.
01:38:25.000The other thing, too, that they keep lying about, though, I've noticed, is they keep saying that he supports Project 2025, which is a huge fucking lie.
01:39:23.000The inflation thing, you know, she was trying to say that he's going to cut taxes for the wealthy, blah, blah, blah, you know, the typical Democrat talking point, and we're going to go ahead and help the middle class.
01:39:34.000And then Trump kind of said, no, I'm going to, you know, increase tariffs, which will allow them to get more money.
01:39:39.000Then the whole abortion situation, which, you know, I knew when they got into that, that's going to be...
01:39:44.000That's one of her strongest things, is the whole reproductive rights.
01:39:47.000Honestly, that's one of the biggest things she's campaigning on, is reproductive rights.
01:39:51.000And they keep saying, well, he supports Project 2025, and by him supporting Project 2025, he's not going to allow abortions.
01:39:57.000And they keep fucking saying this lie, which is not true.
01:40:00.000And then obviously they brought up his criminal case, which I thought that was funny that she brought that up about his criminal cases, weaponizing the Department of Justice and Border Security.
01:40:14.000I wish he answered that question, though.
01:40:15.000When they asked him about him killing that bill, I wish he answered that, dude.
01:40:19.000Because he doesn't want to answer those.
01:40:21.000Because again, this is the problem Trump's got and that's why I think she's doing a lot better.
01:40:24.000When she brings up Project 2025, when she brings up abortion, it puts him in a sticky situation because he disavows it.
01:40:32.000He alienates the right and the left think he's lying anyway.
01:41:05.000I think for his strategy here is he needs to answer the questions, not necessarily bring everything back to immigration and the border, and just focus on like cooking her attack points.
01:41:16.000She's more detailed in all her answers.
01:41:59.000We're in for 250 billion or more because they don't ask Europe, which is a much bigger beneficiary to getting this thing done than we are.
01:42:09.000They're in for 150 billion dollars less because Biden and you don't have the courage to ask Europe like I did with NATO. They paid billions and billions, hundreds of billions of dollars when I said Either you pay up or we're not going to protect you anymore.
01:42:26.000So that's maybe one of the reasons they don't like me as much as they like weak people.
01:42:30.000But you take a look at what's happening.
01:43:03.000That is a war that's dying to be settled.
01:43:06.000I will get it settled before I even become president.
01:43:08.000If I win, when I'm president-elect, and what I'll do is I'll speak to one, I'll speak to the other, I'll get them together, that war would have never happened.
01:43:18.000And in fact, when I saw Putin after I left, We're good to go.
01:44:53.000I actually met with Zelensky a few days before Russia invaded Tried through force to change territorial boundaries, to defy one of the most important international rules and norms, which is the importance of sovereignty and territorial integrity.
01:45:13.000I shared with him American intelligence about how he could defend himself.
01:45:17.000Days later, I went to NATO's eastern flank, to Poland and Romania.
01:45:22.000And through the work that I and others did, we brought 50 countries together to support Ukraine in its righteous defense.
01:45:31.000And because of our support, because of the air defense, the ammunition, the artillery, the javelins, the Abrams tanks that we have provided, Ukraine stands as an independent and free country.
01:45:44.000If Donald Trump were president, Putin would be sitting in Kyiv right now.
01:45:48.000And understand what that would mean, because Putin's agenda is not just about Ukraine.
01:45:55.000Understand why the European allies and our NATO allies are so thankful that you are no longer president and that we understand the importance of the greatest military alliance the world has ever known, which is NATO. And what we have done to preserve the ability of Zelensky and the Ukrainians to fight for their independence.
01:46:17.000Otherwise, Putin would be sitting in Kyiv with his eyes on the rest of Europe, starting with Poland.
01:46:23.000And why don't you tell the 800,000 Polish Americans right here in Pennsylvania how quickly you would give up for the sake of favor and what you think is a friendship with what is known to be a dictator who would eat you for lunch.
01:48:23.000When I went to meet with President Zelensky, I've now met with him over five times.
01:48:28.000The reality is it has been about standing as America always should, as a leader upholding international rules and norms, as a leader who shows strength, understanding that the alliances we have around the world are dependent on our ability to look out for our friends and not favor Our enemies because you adore strongmen instead of caring about democracy.
01:48:57.000And that is very much what is at stake here.
01:49:00.000The president of the United States is commander in chief.
01:49:03.000And the American people have a right to rely.
01:49:07.000On a president who understands the significance of America's role and responsibility in terms of ensuring that there is stability and ensuring we stand up for our principles and not sell them for the benefit of personal flattery.
01:49:25.000We've talked about Ukraine and Vladimir Putin.
01:49:42.000He's the head of NATO. He said, I've never seen.
01:49:45.000For years, we were paying almost all of NATO. We were being ripped off by European nations, both on trade and on NATO. I got them to pay up by saying one of the statements you made before, if you don't pay, we're not going to protect you.
01:49:59.000Thank you, otherwise we would have never gotten it.
01:50:01.000He said it was one of the most incredible jobs that he's ever seen done.
01:50:07.000It came up in the first hour of the debate, and we witnessed a poignant moment today on Capitol Hill honoring the soldiers who died in the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan.
01:50:14.000I do want to ask the Vice President, do you believe you bear any responsibility in the way that withdrawal played out?
01:50:38.000And as of today, there is not one member of the United States military who is in active duty in a combat zone in any war zone around the world the first time this century But let's understand how we got to where we are.
01:50:55.000Donald Trump, when he was president, negotiated one of the weakest deals you can imagine.
01:51:24.000And the president at the time invited the Taliban to Camp David.
01:51:31.000A place of storied significance for us as Americans, a place where we honor the importance of American diplomacy, where we invite and receive respected world leaders.
01:51:45.000And this former president, as president, invited them To Camp David, because he does not again appreciate the role and responsibility of the President of the United States to be Commander in Chief with a level of respect.
01:52:05.000And this gets back to the point of how he has consistently disparaged and demeaned members of our military, fallen soldiers, and the work that we must do to uphold the strength and the respect of the United States of America around the world.
01:54:03.000President, you recently said of Vice President Harris, quote, I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black, and now she wants to be known as black.
01:54:12.000I want to ask a bigger picture question here tonight.
01:54:15.000Why do you believe it's appropriate to weigh in on the racial identity of your opponent?
01:54:50.000I think it's, I mean, honestly, I think it's a tragedy that we have someone who wants to be president who has consistently, over the course of his career, attempted to use race to divide the American people.
01:55:05.000You know, I do believe that the vast majority of us know that we have so much more in common than what separates us, and we don't want this kind of approach that is just constantly trying to divide us, and especially by race.
01:55:17.000And let's remember how Donald Trump started.
01:55:20.000He owned land, he owned buildings, and he was investigated because he refused to rent Property to black families.
01:55:34.000Let's remember, this is the same individual who took out a full page ad in the New York Times calling for the execution of five young black and Latino boys who were innocent, the Central Park Five.
01:55:52.000Took out a full-page ad calling for their execution.
01:55:56.000This is the same individual who spread birther lies about the first black president of the United States.
01:56:03.000And I think the American people want better than that.
01:56:20.000We don't want a leader who is constantly trying to have Americans point their fingers at each other.
01:56:28.000I meet with people all the time who tell me, can we please just have discourse about how we're going to invest in the aspirations and the ambitions and the dreams of the American people?
01:56:41.000Knowing that regardless of people's color or the language their grandmother speaks, we all have the same dreams and aspirations and want a president who invests in those, not in hate and division.
01:57:06.000They're destroying our country and they come up with things like What she just said, going back many, many years, when a lot of people, including Mayor Bloomberg, agreed with me on the Central Park Five, they admitted, they said, they pled guilty.
01:57:22.000And I said, well, if they pled guilty, they'd badly hurt a person, killed a person, ultimately.
01:57:27.000And if they pled guilty, then they pled, we're not guilty.
01:57:30.000But this is a person that has to stretch back years, 40, 50 years ago, because there's nothing now.
01:57:38.000I built one of the greatest economies in the history of the world, and I'm going to build it again.
01:57:43.000It's going to be bigger, better and stronger.
01:59:12.000That is about allowing people to be able to pursue what has been fleeting in terms of the American dream by offering help with down payment of $25,000 down payment assistance for first-time home buyers.
01:59:26.000That's the kind of conversation, I believe, David, that people really want tonight, as opposed to a conversation that is constantly about belittling and name-calling.
02:02:08.000I would only change it if we come up with something that's better and less expensive.
02:02:12.000And there are concepts and options we have to do that.
02:02:16.000And you'll be hearing about it in the not-too-distant future.
02:02:19.000Vice President Harris, in 2017, you supported Bernie Sanders' proposal to do away with private insurance and create a government-run healthcare system.
02:02:26.000Two years later, you proposed a plan that included a private insurance option.
02:04:27.000And now we have capped the cost of insulin at $35 a month.
02:04:30.000Since I've been vice president, we have capped the cost of prescription medication for seniors at $2,000 a year.
02:04:35.000And when I am president, we will do that for all people, understanding that the value I bring to this Is that access to health care should be a right and not just a privilege of those who can afford it.
02:04:49.000And the plan has to be to strengthen the Affordable Care Act, not get rid of it.
02:05:37.000We have another issue that we'd like to get to that's important for a number of Americans, in particular younger voters, and that's climate change.
02:06:01.000Well, the former president had said that climate change is a hoax.
02:06:05.000And what we know is that it is very real.
02:06:08.000You ask anyone who lives in a state who has experienced these extreme weather occurrences, who now is either being denied home insurance or it's being jacked up.
02:06:16.000You ask anybody who has been the victim of what that means in terms of losing their home, having nowhere to go.
02:06:24.000We know that we can actually deal with this issue.
02:06:28.000The young people of America care deeply about this issue.
02:06:31.000And I am proud that as Vice President over the last four years, we have invested a trillion dollars in a clean energy economy while we have also increased domestic gas production to historic levels.
02:06:43.000We have created over 800,000 new manufacturing jobs while I have been Vice President.
02:06:49.000We have invested in clean energy to the point that we are opening up factories around the world.
02:06:55.000Donald Trump said he was going to create manufacturing jobs.
02:07:00.000And I'm also proud to have the endorsement of the United Auto Workers and Sean Fein, who also know that part of building a clean energy economy includes investing in American-made products, American automobiles.
02:07:14.000It includes Growing what we can do around American manufacturing and opening up auto plants, not closing them like happened under Donald Trump.
02:07:51.000We'll put tariffs on those cars so they can't come into our country because they will kill the United Autoworkers and any autoworker, whether it's in Detroit or South Carolina or any other place.
02:08:02.000What they've done to business and manufacturing in this country is horrible.
02:08:59.000I think ABC kind of was reaching there with the whole black question.
02:09:02.000I don't know why the fuck they brought that up.
02:09:04.000If you're going to go ahead and make a question like that, that's clearly putting him in a position of disadvantage because he has to answer something stupid like that, they should have asked her a question too like, hey, why do you constantly attack Trump's character or some shit like that?
02:09:33.000I thought he did much better in Russia and Ukraine.
02:09:36.000I thought the withdrawal in Afghanistan was a draw because we, before this debate, I always thought like Trump was like, did really well in Afghanistan and the Biden administration did really bad.
02:09:46.000And she kind of exposed the fact that He didn't actually do the Afghanistan deal and they actually did the deal.
02:09:50.000So that was something that he kind of didn't have a rebuttal for.
02:09:54.000Race issue, she really smashed him on because remember, he's been talking a lot about race, how he cares about the black community, how he cares about the Hispanic community.
02:10:13.000And then when he brought the Central Park Five, obviously, is a major issue in the US. Obviously, Donald Trump literally speaking out against those Central Park Five.
02:10:29.000Yeah, them bringing up the Central Park Five, that was like a huge deflection.
02:10:35.000Because at the time, everyone thought, it wasn't just Trump, everyone thought that those kids were guilty and did it.
02:10:41.000So for her to just point him out and say, oh yeah, you said XYZ, it's like, yo, they pled guilty and everyone thought they did it at the time.
02:10:52.000I mean, he didn't have the same presence of celebrity that he has now.
02:10:59.000I would argue that Trump was, well, he's obviously more famous now being president or whatever, but he doesn't have the same level of stardom Back then that he has now.
02:11:10.000You know, people were more focused on, like, fucking Mike Tyson and other shit back then.
02:11:40.000I just find it interesting how they're bringing that up now.
02:11:44.000Well, it's basically because what's happened is Trump's been talking a lot about the black community, the Hispanic community, and this is to basically remind everyone, like, blacks, you should vote Democrat.
02:11:52.000Yeah, he should just stay away from race.
02:11:54.000Because the problem is that as a Caucasian male, he's never going to get the benefit of the doubt.
02:12:00.000So he should just stay away from race altogether.
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02:14:31.000And a vision of that includes having a plan, understanding the aspirations, the dreams, the hopes, the ambition of the American people, which is why I intend to create An opportunity economy, investing in small businesses,
02:14:48.000in new families, in what we can do around protecting seniors, what we can do that is about giving hardworking folks a break and bringing down the cost of living.
02:14:59.000I believe in what we can do together that is about sustaining America's standing in the world and ensuring that we have the respect that we so rightly deserve, including respecting our military and ensuring we have the most lethal fighting force in the world.
02:15:17.000I will be a president that will protect our fundamental rights and freedoms, including the right of a woman to make decisions about her own body and not have her government tell her what to do.
02:15:28.000I'll tell you, I started my career as a prosecutor.
02:15:31.000I was the DA, I was an Attorney General, a United States Senator, and now Vice President.
02:15:38.000And I'll tell you, as a prosecutor, I never asked a victim or a witness, are you a Republican or a Democrat?
02:15:45.000The only thing I ever asked them, are you okay?
02:15:49.000And that's the kind of president we need right now.
02:15:52.000Someone who cares about you and is not putting themselves first.
02:15:57.000I intend to be a president for all Americans and focus on what we can do over the next 10 and 20 years to build back up our country by investing right now in you, the American people.
02:16:36.000She should leave right now, go down to that beautiful White House, go to the Capitol, get everyone together and do the things you want to do.
02:16:43.000But you haven't done it, and you won't do it.
02:16:45.000Because you believe in things that the American people don't believe in.
02:16:49.000You believe in things like, we're not going to frack, we're not going to take fossil fuel, we're not going to do...
02:16:55.000Things that are going to make this country strong, whether you like it or not.
02:16:59.000Germany tried that and within one year they were back to building normal energy plants.
02:19:26.000They're just going to go ahead and have their echo chambers and just talk shit about Kamala the whole time and not necessarily hear another perspective.
02:19:31.000So we're going to give the best commentary on this shit.
02:19:45.000Okay, we'll give it a second so people can kind of start popping over.
02:19:51.000Come on over guys, rumble.com slash freshfit or twitch.tv slash freshfitpodcast, whatever you guys want.
02:19:55.000If you guys could do me a favor, let's get a fucking hype train going back up on Twitch.
02:19:59.000And we're going to have a great conversation on this situation.
02:20:03.000And Suleiman is also live on X right now as well too, guys, if you guys want to prefer to watch on X. And if you have an Amazon Prime account, you are also able to subscribe to our Twitch through your Amazon Prime account, through Prime Twitch.
02:20:39.000I'm looking right now, Bongino, Crowder, yeah, all the big guys on the right, they're all just, it's, I like them, I love these guys, but it's, you know, they're not having someone else with a different perspective on, so...
02:20:55.000I mean, one of my apps, I know we're on Rumble, but one of the things about Rumble is it is just a MAGA platform, so I think this is the only stream that has someone else.
02:21:41.000So policies, she was stating more policies than he was, which was surprising.
02:21:46.000And even his rhetoric wasn't that great.
02:21:48.000Like a couple of points he made, we were like laughing because he was the old Trump, but he didn't do it throughout the debate.
02:21:53.000What she did was replace that with emotions.
02:21:56.000And emotions do impact people, impacts the left, impacts women, impacts liberals, impacts even some like feminized men, impacts the huge people from the left.
02:22:05.000So the entire strategy that she did Was brilliant from a strategy perspective.
02:22:11.000I thought with Trump, he wasn't as great.
02:23:08.000What's your reaction to the debate tonight?
02:23:11.000Martha, I'm feeling great because what I knew and I think so many knew and now many Americans know is you saw a president for all America in Kamala Harris.
02:23:23.000And you saw the compassion for people.
02:23:25.000Understanding she spoke about an economy that moves us forward, moves all of us forward, lets everybody be a part of it.
02:23:31.000And she continued to lay that out, whether it's reproductive freedom or how we start small businesses or making homeownership easier.
02:23:38.000And on the other side, You saw a nearly 80-year-old Donald Trump, angry, unhinged, and as you've been discussing, talking about things that are deeply concerning because they make no impact on the American public.
02:23:51.000He shouldn't be anywhere near the White House.
02:23:53.000And I have to tell you, if it weren't so dangerous, it reminds you of an old man yelling at the clouds.
02:24:43.000Wade, what was the law of the land, for 52 years, you saw this in there.
02:24:50.000And him pushing back to the stage, she's exactly right.
02:24:53.000It's people like Amanda in Texas, which everybody saw on the stage in Chicago, nearly bleeding out, having sepsis twice because she can't get the care.
02:25:06.000When you have Roe, you have the protections in place where women make their own decisions with their health care providers, not Donald Trump.
02:25:15.000Okay, thanks so very much for joining us, Governor Walz.
02:25:55.000Well, I think the president's been very clear that he doesn't want a national abortion ban.
02:25:59.000I think in some ways he finds the question a little bit ridiculous because why are we asking him about legislation that's never going to actually happen and why he would veto it or not veto it when he says very explicitly that he doesn't support a national abortion ban and he wants these policies to be made by the states.
02:26:14.000But I think there's a deeper and more important issue here in this debate, which is that you had Kamala Harris effectively echoing platitude after platitude after platitude The American people can't pay their grocery bills on platitudes.
02:26:27.000They can't put their kids in a house on platitudes.
02:26:30.000And Kamala Harris had a lot to say, but very little actual substance behind it for how she's going to lower grocery prices, secure the border, and make housing more affordable in this country.
02:26:40.000She's been the vice president for three and a half years.
02:26:43.000She can't run on a record, and she apparently can't run on much of her plans either because it's just a lot of slogans and not a whole lot of substance.
02:26:50.000But Senator Vance, why won't he just say that he would veto the national abortion ban?
02:26:54.000And by the way, had you spoken to him about it before you were put in a position to answer that question?
02:27:00.000No, I hadn't spoken to him about it because again, Donald Trump thinks the question is absurd because he doesn't support a national abortion ban and he's been explicit about it.
02:27:08.000And John, I think that it's so preposterous for the media to focus so much on an issue where Donald Trump has been crystal clear And not on the fact that people can't afford groceries and housing because of Kamala Harris's policies.
02:27:22.000This election is actually quite simple.
02:27:24.000And Kamala Harris and apparently the media would like to distract Americans on issues by the way that Donald Trump's been crystal clear about.
02:27:31.000But they're not talking nearly enough.
02:27:33.000This debate didn't talk nearly enough about the fact that Americans are struggling because they can't afford groceries.
02:27:39.000They can't afford And a lot of their kids are dying of fentanyl overdoses because Kamala Harris has let the Mexican drug cartels take over the southern border.
02:27:48.000This is a disgrace what's going on in our country, John.
02:27:50.000And we could do so much better if we just had better leadership.
02:27:53.000We've got the best workers, the most beautiful country, the best natural resources.
02:27:57.000But Kamala Harris's leadership is squandering the great benefits of this country.
02:28:02.000It's why we've got to get back to Donald Trump's leadership.
02:28:05.000Senator, by the way, I asked because he hadn't been crystal clear and he said something different than what you said.
02:28:09.000That's why I was seeking clarification.
02:28:10.000But let me ask you about this, just very quickly.
02:28:13.000I heard Donald Trump before this debate describe Kamala Harris as, I'll just read a few of them, a low IQ individual, somebody who doesn't have the mental capacity to be president, really dumb, unable to put two sentences together.
02:28:27.000Is that what you saw on the stage tonight?
02:28:30.000John, what I saw was a lot of slogans.
02:28:33.000I think the American people are smart and Kamala Harris talks to them like their children.
02:28:37.000She repeats these ridiculous platitudes where if you actually think about what she said, you realize that it doesn't make any sense.
02:28:44.000She talks a lot about her plans, but then her plans, when you analyze the substance, don't make any sense.
02:28:50.000And more importantly, John, The American people don't get fed on plans.
02:28:54.000She has been the vice president for three and a half years.
02:28:56.000What she can't do, refuses to do, and has no ability to do, is to say, I accomplished lower prices because she didn't.
02:29:03.000Or I accomplished lower housing prices because she didn't.
02:29:07.000Or I secured the southern border because she didn't do that.
02:29:54.000But in terms of, again, coming back to the point, if anything, the fact that Vance answered the question and Trump didn't makes it look bad on Trump.
02:30:01.000I think Trump was way too vague on too many issues.
02:30:08.000So once we get down to the issues, I'll break it down as well as what my thoughts were and how even some of the issues where Trump was going way too left and he's alienating his own base.
02:30:15.000I just think he didn't do a great job, generally speaking.
02:32:01.000Let's hope that they say yes, and again, we have the formal invite out This has been quite something because there was a lot of buildup to this moment.
02:32:43.000Hannity, we are live, we are in the spin room, and we are in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, where the first and only scheduled debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris is officially now in the books.
02:32:55.000In just a moment, we're going to get reaction from Senator Marco Rubio, Senator Ted Cruz, Trump's running mate J.D. Vance, and Robert Kennedy Jr.
02:33:04.000But first, in case you missed it, here's how it all went down.
02:33:08.000I don't say her because she has no policy.
02:33:10.000Everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window.
02:34:04.000She gave all that stuff up very wrongly, very horribly, and everybody's laughing at it, okay?
02:34:14.000All right, what you didn't hear tonight was any substance from Kamala Harris about pretty much anything.
02:34:18.000She delivered a lot of pre-rehearsed, memorized platitudes, lines, plenty of attacks.
02:34:23.000This was, I hate Trump, I hate Trump, I hate Trump, and I hate Trump more.
02:34:27.000Anyway, with lots of kind of weird faces and expressions, we still don't have answers.
02:34:33.000Where she stands on defunding the police, electric vehicle mandates, mandatory gun confiscation, which she lied about, Medicare for All, the $93 trillion Green New Deal she co-sponsored in the U.S. Senate with Bernie Sanders, banning plastic straws,
02:34:49.000reducing red meat consumption, up to a 70 or 80 percent income tax rate by economics.
02:34:56.000We call it Bidenomics, and we're proud of it.
02:34:58.000Offshore drilling, fracking, decriminalizing illegal immigration, free housing, healthcare, education, college education, and now sex change surgery provided by taxpayers.
02:35:11.000We didn't hear about the border wall that she was against, that now she's for, and we didn't hear about illegal immigrants and returning home.
02:35:39.000Early voting starts in this commonwealth in seven days.
02:35:43.000You know, in between so-called fact-checking and clapbacks only against Donald Trump, because Kamala didn't offer any details on her own, as predicted, tonight's debate was three on one.
02:35:54.000Anyway, joining us now from the spin room, Florida Senator, my Senator, free state of Florida, Marco Rubio.
02:36:36.000They let her get away with this lie that Joe Biden didn't withdraw us from Afghanistan.
02:36:39.000Joe Biden was run out of Afghanistan in humiliating fashion.
02:36:44.000Even the fact checkers were wrong, where she said, oh, there's no state in the country where there's a lot.
02:36:47.000There are multiple states in this country, including Tim Walz's Minnesota, where if a baby is born in a botched abortion, they allow the baby to die.
02:36:55.000And then they let her get away with not answering what restrictions.
02:37:01.000See, this is a frustrating thing is when you have three on one and you have a fact like you just laid out about Tim Walz and his position on late-term abortion.
02:37:35.000They know very little about Kamala Harris.
02:37:37.000Tonight, for the first time, despite the best efforts of these moderators, Americans began to learn that this was someone who was raising money to bail rioters out of jail.
02:37:45.000This was someone who said she wanted to defund ICE. This was someone who basically said that we should be paying for the sex change operations of illegal migrants in detention.
02:37:54.000This was someone who accused the Border Patrol of whipping Haitian migrants at the border.
02:37:58.000And this is someone that has been in the White House for four years, talking about all these things she's going to do.
02:39:06.000Not a single one of those things was asked.
02:39:08.000How did they not bring up radical Islamic terrorism?
02:39:12.000President Trump did a good job of injecting that in there and in the end of the debate he said the most important thing and that is She's been there for four years.
02:39:19.000All these things she's promising, they haven't done.
02:39:22.000And frankly, she wouldn't answer the most important question she was asked all night.
02:39:25.000She was asked this, are Americans better off today than they were four years ago?
02:39:31.000She went on to talk about how she was born to a middle-class family, raised in Canada for part of that time in what apparently is not a middle-class neighborhood.
02:39:38.000But nonetheless, she went into her biography.
02:39:49.000She has a record as a senator, and she has a record as vice president.
02:39:52.000And Americans tonight got a glimpse of what she really believes, what she really stands for, and what direction she'll actually take our country.
02:40:23.000And for her to brag about Afghanistan, she bragged about Afghanistan.
02:40:26.000She said, Joe Biden, he was run out of there.
02:40:30.000And not only did he run out of there, we lost $90 billion worth of American equipment that they're parading down the street.
02:40:35.000There are a lot of real people in the real world who are not political junkies who are going to vote and decide this election, who watched tonight.
02:40:41.000They saw the man that was president, and they remember their lives were better when he was president.
02:41:08.000Senator, how do you interpret that and your overall thoughts on the debate tonight?
02:41:12.000Well, listen, I'm skeptical that Kamala's team will have her do a second debate.
02:41:16.000I think they're going to back out of that.
02:41:17.000I think they're going to send her back to Joe Biden's basement.
02:41:20.000I think we probably will not see Kamala emerge again from the basement, sort of like the groundhog in her shadow.
02:41:25.000She's not going to come out again from the basement until election night.
02:41:29.000Other than to go for rallies and read from teleprompters.
02:41:33.000And listen, I gotta say tonight, what Kamala demonstrated is number one, she cannot defend her disastrous record.
02:41:40.000Her record is an absolute train wreck.
02:41:43.000So instead what she did, what we saw tonight in this quote debate, Was her repeating memorized set pieces from her stump speech and from her convention speech.
02:41:52.000The very opening question, the most important question in any election, are you better off now than you were four years ago?
02:41:59.000She refused to answer that because she couldn't answer that.
02:42:01.000Because nobody, unless you are a Mexican drug lord, nobody else is better off than they were four years ago.
02:42:14.000And no aspect On inflation, she didn't address that she cast the tie-breaking vote on trillions of dollars of spending that caused inflation hurting Americans across this country.
02:42:25.000On energy, she didn't address that she and Joe Biden have waged war on American energy over and over and over again, driving up the cost of gasoline and everything else for Americans.
02:42:36.000On the border, she didn't address her own personal responsibility, the invasion, the crime, the murders, the women sexually assaulted, the children brutalized.
02:42:46.000She didn't take responsibility for any of that.
02:42:50.000And then on foreign policy, I actually thought on foreign policy she was the weakest.
02:42:56.000When she turned to Donald Trump and says, well, everyone knows you were weak and ineffective.
02:43:00.000Listen, if Donald Trump were still in the White House, the two wars that broke out under her leadership and Joe Biden's would not have happened.
02:43:08.000Russia would not have invaded Ukraine and we would not have the war in In Israel, and she took no responsibility for that weakness, nor did she have a word to say about the over $100 billion that she and Joe Biden have flowed to Iran.
02:43:25.000All of her records she ran away from, and I gotta say, the ABC moderators were complicit in her running a completely fact-free debate performance.
02:44:25.000Look, it goes over terribly, but what you just did, what I just did, is what the Trump campaign needs to do between now and Election Day, which is lay out the actual facts of her record, because she won't confront them.
02:44:38.000So, for example, on abortion, she said, no, no, no, I'm not for late-term abortions, eight- and nine-month abortions.
02:44:45.000She has voted for legislation that would legalize abortion up until the moment of birth.
02:44:51.000When she says, I don't know what you're talking about, abortion after birth, well, Kamala Harris voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, which says that if in the course of an abortion a baby is alive, is breathing, is outside of the womb, you can't just kill the baby.
02:45:07.000And so her actual record Needs to be systematically laid out when it comes to crime.
02:45:14.000This is someone who has supported defund the police.
02:45:17.000This is someone who has supported defund ICE. This is someone, Kamala Harris, who compared ICE, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency, to the KKK. But we need to make sure those facts get before the American people because ABC is not going to do it.
02:45:33.000The corporate media is not going to do it.
02:45:36.000And listen, her radical record is radical the same way my opponent, Colin Allred, who's running against me.
02:45:41.000Both of them vote repeatedly in favor of open borders.
02:45:45.000Both of them vote for trillions of dollars of spending we don't have.
02:45:48.000Both of them vote for the war against oil and gas and American energy.
02:45:52.000Both of them vote in favor of defunding the police.
02:45:56.000But I got to tell you, The left right now, they are flooding money to Kamala Harris.
02:46:02.000They're flooding money to my opponent because they want to deceive the American people.
02:46:06.000Both Kamala Harris and my opponent are running ads with Donald Trump's border wall in it, even though both of them have opposed it their entire careers.
02:46:15.000The hypocrisy is enormous, which is why we need to bring the facts back up and prosecute this case on the merits.
02:46:24.000All right, Senator Ted Cruz, we appreciate you being with us.
02:46:27.000Joining us now is 2024 Republican vice presidential nominee, Senator J.D. Vance.
02:46:53.000When I first interviewed you, The first interview you did, when you were vice president, when you announced to be the candidate, I asked you every hard question.
02:47:35.000And I think that, though the moderators didn't do their job, I think President Trump did do his job in reminding the American people that she has taken a number of radical positions that, as he joked, she's running away from.
02:47:45.000She's about to put on a MAGA hat because she realizes...
02:47:48.000By the way, That was a pretty good line.
02:47:50.000It was my favorite moment of the debate.
02:47:52.000But she is a radical who is trying to run towards Donald Trump's positions because she knows that's what's popular, but it's not what she actually believes.
02:48:01.000And I think that if you go to her performance, Sean, the most striking part of it is if you actually listen to what she said, it was platitude after platitude after slogan.
02:48:36.000Homes that are unaffordable, a wide open southern border, rising fentanyl deaths.
02:48:40.000This is happening because of her failed leadership.
02:48:43.000And all we need to remind the American people of, and I think Donald Trump did a great job of this tonight, is the reason why these problems happen is because Kamala Harris failed to do it.
02:49:07.000The candidate protection program and the media keeps her in there.
02:49:11.000You know, I have all of these files, the Kamala files, the Walls files, them in their own words.
02:49:16.000This was all available to ABC tonight.
02:49:19.000You said this about fracking, you said this about drilling, you said this about sex change operations that taxpayers pay for for criminals and for illegal immigrants, free housing, health care, education for illegal immigrants, the elimination of private health care.
02:49:37.000All of these positions that she's taken, you know, and it's amazing that we're this far, that we're this close to an election, we don't have these answers.
02:49:47.000Let's go ahead and give some of our commentary here.
02:49:50.000Or do you want to let J.D. Vance finish?
02:49:57.000I feel like watching Kamala Harris, like I've taken some psychedelics, but look, she has a total disaster, Sean, and she runs away from a record.
02:50:04.000This is the most striking thing, is if you're the vice president, you've been in power for three and a half years, is she running by saying, look what we did to lower your grocery prices, look what we did to make the world more secure?
02:51:43.000If you're a Pennsylvania energy worker, or you're an American suffering from high utility and energy bills, Kamala Harris is telling you she wants to make you pay more, and she wants to put these energy workers out of the job.
02:52:17.000And one has to wonder, you know, To what extent has her past statements and radical positions penetrated the consciousness of the American people?
02:52:30.000Look, I think they've penetrated a little bit, and it's our job over the remaining 56 days of the campaign.
02:52:35.000You're right, early voting starts in just a couple of weeks.
02:53:58.000They weaponized the Justice Department.
02:54:01.000Every one of those cases was involved with the DOJ, from Atlanta and Fawney Willis to the The Attorney General of New York and the DA in New York.
02:54:38.000You left your party, a party that was near and dear to your father, to your uncle.
02:54:46.000I think it has no resemblance to the Democratic Party today.
02:54:51.000And this is the frustrating part about tonight, the radicalization, the views stated by Kamala, you know, They weren't asked by the moderators.
02:55:01.000I was disappointed by the evident bias of the moderators who were fact-checking constantly, kind of trivialities.
02:55:15.000President Trump, but as far as I saw, they didn't fact check Vice President Harris a single time.
02:56:00.000We saw Dick Cheney and John Bolton endorse, along with 255 neocons, endorse Vice President Harris this week.
02:56:11.000They came out of exile where they were sent after the Patriot Act.
02:56:15.000They were sent after the war in Iraq, the biggest foreign policy debacle in American history.
02:56:20.000And they're not endorsing Vice President Harris because they've changed their minds.
02:56:28.000They're endorsing her because she represents their worldview.
02:56:31.000More censorship, more war, more surveillance.
02:56:34.000And less liberty and constitutional rights.
02:56:37.000You know, there's a lot in the course of your campaign.
02:56:39.000They talk about democracy in peril, but everything, the entire force of the democratic establishment, if you will, they just went in for the political, you know, death of your campaign.
02:56:54.000They did not want you to get to, they didn't want you to get a first base.
02:56:58.000You know, that's the other thing is that they've abandoned democracy.
02:57:04.000The Democratic Party is now about centralized control.
02:57:07.000It's about losing faith in the demos, the people, and about abolishing elections, abolishing our ability to hear different Points of view to hear dissent.
02:57:18.000In my case, of course, they got rid of the primaries.
02:57:21.000They literally abolished many of the primaries so that President Biden wouldn't have to debate me, wouldn't have to run against me.
02:57:27.000Let me dip in, I guess, Kamala's at one of her watch parties or something.
02:58:21.000And it doesn't matter if you tell the truth, because she wasn't fact-checked.
02:58:24.000She told a lot of lies about Trump in 2025, lies about mandatory gun buybacks, which she did support, lying about fracking, lying about a national abortion ban that Donald Trump Yeah, guys, so I'm like kind of seeing where everybody's saying,
02:58:45.000Off message, and it does appear, is that Donald Trump there going into the spin room perhaps, making an entrance there as well.
02:58:53.000Whit, I know you'll keep an eye on that.
02:58:55.000Let me know if you need to turn there.
02:58:56.000But, you know, one of the things that's so interesting is looking ahead now, where does the Kamala Harris team go?
02:59:01.000Because so much of this comes down to whether, you know, they can spin this how they want, Trump can spin this how he wants.
02:59:06.000But what it comes down to are those key independent voters.
02:59:09.000Harris is going to be out there in those key battleground states in the coming days.
02:59:13.000And they feel this was so successful, they are now asking for a second debate in October, challenging Trump to see if he will accept that debate.
02:59:21.000And you can shout that question to him there with.
02:59:23.000And in a final, just, you know, sort of top off the night here, Taylor Swift tweeting out to her 283 million followers that she is now endorsing Kamala Harris with that is going to be something that's hard for Trump to take off.
03:00:15.000It showed how weak they are, how pathetic they are, and what they're doing to destroy our country and the border with foreign trade, with everything.
03:00:24.000And I think it was the best debate I've ever personally that I've had.
03:00:28.000We're getting polls that show 92 to 6.
03:02:55.000But one of the things you did hear was a question just asked by our Catherine Folders asking, why not commit to another debate if you believe that you won?
03:03:04.000He won this debate, but then he was also asked, why being here in the spin room spinning about this debate if it's a debate that you believe was a clean win?
03:03:12.000We're going to try to get you as close as we can to Donald Trump, but I don't think you're going to be able to hear.
03:03:18.000Let me try to get my mic in there and see if you can hear Whit if you're still going through my camera here.
03:05:08.000I don't want either of them to win, right?
03:05:10.000But coming back to it, like I thought she won, but now after hearing Fox News and seeing RFK, Rubio, Cruz, Hannity, I'm like, actually she dominated.
03:05:22.000Like when I'm hearing their arguments and they actually...
03:05:25.000Presenting better challenges to her points than Trump did.
03:05:28.000It kind of demonstrates how weak he was during the debate.
03:05:47.000When he's talking about the polls, as far as I know, and I did have a quick search, it does seem to be Twitter polls he's tweeted on some of them from Truth Social where it's only MAGA people.
03:05:57.000So of course, what are MAGA people going to vote?
03:06:00.000But Polymarket, which is actually run by Peter Thiel.
03:06:42.000I mean, I don't know if I could even pick a defined winner.
03:06:47.000I think it's damn near a tie, which is not good, right, from the Trump perspective.
03:06:53.000You know, ABC did ask questions to kind of provoke Trump and they would ask him about his policies but not necessarily hers as much.
03:07:02.000I would say it's like maybe a one to three ratio where they would like kind of maybe question her on one of her policies and then but with him they would always like say that's not true Mr.
03:07:10.000President like they would fact check they fact checked him a lot more than they fact checked her.
03:08:57.000Will there be an FNF News or any other stream where both Suleiman Ahmed and Tommy Sotomayor is a stream, including both of them, will be fired?
03:10:27.000We're going to do a subathon on Thursday.
03:10:30.000So that's going to be, we're going to, my goal is to get you guys all watching ad free.
03:10:34.000Here's the issue with the black BS they tried to sneak in there.
03:10:36.000If you actually go on Wayback Machine and look at her Wikipedia page, or if you look at any biography written about her, she herself identifies as Indian American.
03:10:43.000It wasn't until recently where they replaced Indian for black.
03:12:45.000Inflation has increased, but a lot of that is Donald Trump's fault.
03:12:49.000Now, if you look at the economy, The economy under Trump wasn't any better than it was under Obama.
03:12:57.000Obama, the economy was increasing significantly.
03:12:59.000Actually, Obama's second term from the economical perspective was more stronger than even Trump's first term.
03:13:06.000Trump's term was very equal to Obama's first term.
03:13:09.000So again, this idea of like Trump being some savant when it comes to the economy is fake news in my view.
03:13:17.000And the only reason why Biden is suffering is like I said, it's because of actually Obama's policies, Obama, sorry, because of Trump's policies.
03:13:25.000Trump in the last year is obviously the entire US collapsed, UK collapsed, the world collapsed.
03:13:30.000And it was because of COVID and lockdown measures.
03:13:35.000She kept repeating about focusing on the American workforce.
03:15:20.000That's going to have, you know, everlasting domino effect on all world markets.
03:15:26.000And, you know, food prices went up significantly after the Russian invasion.
03:15:29.000And that happened in due to Biden's weak foreign policy where he's not able to keep these people in bay.
03:15:38.000So I would say that, yes, COVID did play a role, but I don't think...
03:15:42.000And I'm not going to even blame the Biden administration or really the Trump administration, because that was like an unforeseen event.
03:15:47.000And honestly, you can't even plan for that.
03:15:49.000Like, locking the world down the way they did.
03:15:51.000I mean, if anything, I think Trump tried to open the country back as quickly as possible, which is why he pushed Operation Warp Speed so hard, pushed the vaccines.
03:16:42.000Inflation is a problem that, yes, it started with COVID, but I think the Democrats exacerbated the problem by allowing Russia to invade Ukraine because that had so many different domino effects on food prices, which is the biggest thing, the biggest pocket point.
03:16:57.000Hey, grocery reserve 50%, etc., which is true, and I do think the Democrats have some blame on that.
03:17:01.000And then as far as, like, she talked about home shortages...
03:17:04.000There's been a problem that's been going on for multiple years.
03:17:07.000There's approximately a 5 million home shortage in the United States.
03:17:11.000And she talks about, oh, well, I'm going to go ahead and give a credit where people can get $25,000 towards a home or whatever.
03:17:16.000Well, that's not really going to do anything because me being in a real estate game, I know it's going to happen.
03:17:19.000Everyone is just going to increase the price of their home by $25,000 knowing that.
03:17:23.000And the other thing, too, is that with the home shortages, single family, and she means single family homes by this, three bedroom, two bath, etc.
03:17:32.000The reason why we're short on it is because A lot of the people that are building homes, they're more focused on commercial real estate.
03:17:39.000They're more focused on turning a big profit on them actually sending contractors out to build things.
03:17:43.000So, building a single family home isn't as profitable and the cost of lumber like we discussed before and other products have went up since the conflict with Russia especially.
03:17:55.000Her trying to say that I'm gonna build more homes, I'm trying to build 3 million homes, it's a bullshit thing.
03:18:01.000We have a home shortage of around 5 million, and they simply are not gonna be able to get that happening.
03:18:06.000That's, I think, a very false promise, me understanding how the real estate market works.
03:18:10.000Because how the fuck are you gonna incentivize these real estate contractors That build these commercial properties to prioritize building single-family homes when it's not really in their benefit to do so, and they lose money by doing it.
03:18:22.000That's why so many different homes that were being built.
03:18:25.000I mean, hell, right now in Miami, they have a bunch of apartment complexes that they've stopped building, right?
03:18:30.000And these are multi, multi, multi, maybe even a billion dollar plus projects.
03:19:13.000100%, 100% because of a number of reasons.
03:19:15.000One is it alienates his actual base and then it also ensures the left or the liberal base votes for her as well.
03:19:26.000So him saying, for example, six weeks is too short, him disavowing Project 2025, him saying that he will not do a national abortion ban immediately alienates both the left and And the right,
03:19:41.000it puts him in an extremely weak spot.
03:19:43.000And I think that's the reason why they do it.
03:19:45.000And look, this whole argument that Maga makes, oh, guess what?
03:19:48.000He just, he defeated Roan Wade, he sent it back to the States.
03:19:53.000I don't see how that's a win if you're a Conservative.
03:19:56.000Because what you're basically saying is that him himself, from a federal perspective, has not made the decision to save the lives of babies.
03:20:06.000And he's allowed them to be killed because obviously, as a conservative, we do believe that a child is born from day zero.
03:20:12.000So it means anything after day zero is actual murder.
03:20:15.000So it's funny that Trump was calling anything after nine months, I think he called it an assassination, when in reality, according to us, days anything before that is also an assassination.
03:20:27.000And coming back to the point, The issue is this.
03:20:31.000When you're basically sending this to the states, you're delegating responsibility, or as I would say, taking away responsibility.
03:20:37.000You're meant to be the president of the United States, a conservative Republican president.
03:20:42.000You're meant to be put in values which are conservative, but instead you make a decision to send it down to the states.
03:20:48.000What does it mean to send it down to the states?
03:21:50.000You guys take it up with your governors if you have an issue.
03:21:53.000The problem with that, though, right, is what I've been noticing is people are able to take him saying, I'm going to move it to the states and kind of run with it however they want to define their political agenda, right?
03:22:06.000So what the Democrats are using it as is, oh, there's a Trump abortion ban, right?
03:22:12.000Because he said, I'm going to move it to the states.
03:22:15.000And they're able to interpret it however they see fit.
03:22:19.000To, I guess, kind of propose it to whichever audience they're talking to, right?
03:22:24.000And though I see the practicality in it, I think it's the right way to move.
03:22:29.000The problem is that we live in a country and we live in a world where It's not the truth that matters.
03:22:35.000It's whoever can articulate a story better that matters.
03:22:39.000And what the Democrats have been able to do, which is they've always been better at this, is market it as Trump is a...
03:22:45.000He doesn't stand for women's reproductive rights.
03:23:14.000Oh, his birthing ban, his pregnancy bans or his abortion bans are putting women in precarious situations where they're dying or they have to have a baby.
03:23:26.000And take it to term that they don't want to.
03:23:27.000So the issue with turning it to the states is now it leaves open interpretation for his opponents to paint him in whatever light they want.
03:24:19.000And then the people that don't like him are saying, oh look, he's pro-abortion.
03:24:23.000So it's kind of put him in a very weird middle ground where it's alienated him from his main base and the liberals that don't like him are going to like him anyway and are going to say that he's pro-abortion.
03:24:52.000What are your thoughts on immigration?
03:24:54.000Yeah, I thought he could have done a lot better because that's one where he is coming in.
03:24:58.000You think abortion is something that Kamala is very much stronger in and immigration is something that Trump is better in.
03:25:08.000And the reason you'd assume he's better is because of the immigration or the illegal immigration crisis that's happened over the last four years that many Americans talk about.
03:25:18.000And yet, when you look at it, he didn't hone in on that as much.
03:25:21.000He didn't talk about the fact that she, he didn't mention it.
03:25:23.000But again, he didn't hone in on the fact that she was in charge of the border.
03:25:28.000He instead talked about Springfield, about eating cats and dogs.
03:25:33.000And that was something that came out on social media yesterday, was thoroughly debunked.
03:25:39.000And so you knew coming into this, you're going to get embarrassed because what actually happened was it wasn't even people from Haiti doing that.
03:25:48.000And actually, I know not many people are talking about this, but let's talk about this, that why are there problems in Haiti?
03:25:55.000Because there is somebody It's called the BGO family who are what?
03:26:03.000Zionists who have completely ransacked the country.
03:26:07.000They own the only port in the country.
03:26:16.000And that's why you've got a lot of Haitians who are having to come to America.
03:26:20.000So again, the problem goes back to the Zionist control of Haiti and how they proliferate in the country of resources, significant resources.
03:26:29.000And what they've done is use that, the fact that there are people from Haiti coming into the United States and made it into something which is a joke in Cat and Dogs.
03:26:36.000Whereas you could have actually talked about Wait a sec.
03:26:39.000You've got a small town in Springfield, a residence of 60,000 people.
03:26:44.000You then import 20,000 people from a foreign country illegally or even legally.
03:27:11.000So of course, I know that he was trying to relate the argument.
03:27:16.000I know later he did make it a bit more cogent.
03:27:18.000But at that point, what was the point he was making?
03:27:20.000Yeah, you had more votes, but that doesn't mean anything because Biden had even more votes.
03:27:24.000Well, his real argument, what he didn't mention at this point was that actually the election was stolen.
03:27:30.000He talked about immigration and then he moved on to crime a bit.
03:27:34.000But again, he needs to talk about crime rate because again, crime rate and illegal immigration are not something that are congruent because actually, according to the data, illegal immigrants commit less crime than legal immigrants and legal immigrants commit less crime than actual Americans.
03:27:50.000So again, that's something that, again, he mentioned, but again, it wasn't that strong.
03:27:53.000So what I thought is he did do better in the immigration point, But considering that that was meant to be his slam dunk, I didn't think he did as well.
03:28:52.000I think if you had brought more attention to her being the border czar, look at the crime, look at the problems that we have with mass migration, he could have absolutely destroyed her on that.
03:29:03.000And then also the other thing I don't like that he did, though I do think he won on this immigration, he didn't Address her trying to say that she tried to pass this bill where she was going to add 1,500 more Border Patrol agents, stop fentanyl, etc.
03:29:15.000She went ahead and said that he stopped the bill that she was trying to push.
03:29:21.000He should have answered and addressed that and stopped her in her tracks.
03:29:24.000But instead, she sneakily did this, by the way.
03:29:33.000How he stopped this bill, and then in the same sentence, pretty much, oh, no one shows up to his rallies, blah, blah.
03:29:40.000So Trump gets very angry anytime people talk about his rallies, and he went ahead and focused on that instead of disputing that claim that he didn't want this bill to get passed.
03:29:53.000That is just a golden point, because I didn't actually realize that, but she baited him hard there.
03:29:57.000Yeah, she baited him really bad there.
03:29:58.000And here's the thing, she did that because she knew that if she could take away from the immigration conversation, and he speaks more on the rallies versus immigration, It would help her because she knows that immigration is her weak point.
03:30:11.000So she had to get something to bait him to get him off of the topic of immigration, which is his strong point.
03:30:16.000He should have not fell for it and just address her question and then just hit her on the fucking points of how she's fucking up with the border.
03:30:23.000I still think he won, but he could have done it so much better, man.
03:30:27.000Also on illegal immigration, like not about the debate, but like real question, like where is the evidence that it's worse now than it was under Trump?
03:30:38.000Sorry, worse now than it was under Trump because I've been looking at the data and the data seems to suggest that actually it's been very similar for Trump as it was for Biden.
03:30:48.000The only difference is in the last year of COVID, that's when it decreased.
03:30:52.000But that was because of COVID. I mean, is there real data showing That the situation is much worse under Biden than there is Trump.
03:31:07.000So I could tell you just from working in immigration myself under the Trump administration versus working under Democrats, it was way better with Trump.
03:31:14.000However, the American public is not going to know that.
03:31:19.000They need to be better at demonstrating how they're putting a stop to crossings, etc.
03:31:28.000And the other thing, too, which they need to do this more, I don't think they count expedited removals.
03:31:35.000So, when aliens come into the United States, right, and they're caught by Border Patrol under the Trump administration, they would give them something called an expedited removal, which is a quick deportation without two weeks.
03:32:05.000The Trump party needs to be better at articulating this and really hammering it home so that the Democrats aren't kind of like putting smoke in mirrors and confusing the audience.
03:32:14.000I agree with that because what you're saying is 100% right.
03:32:17.000This needs to be proven and articulated a lot better because I'll tell you, because you know what it is, a lot of people, maybe your chat as well, a lot of people are just used to hearing one perspective.
03:32:27.000Speaking to a lot of people on the left, both left-wing and liberals, which are different, a lot of them say that this is just right-wing propaganda.
03:32:35.000And they say it's not really happening.
03:33:53.000Of explaining that it's not just the numbers, you need to look at the things behind it that impact law enforcement's ability to actually conduct and do their jobs.
03:34:06.000And that's what the Democrats always do, is they typically come in and they're Hands off with immigration.
03:34:11.000And then the federal law force agencies, which, by the way, are the only ones that have immigration authority, the state and locals, the state police, sheriff's counties, they don't have any immigration authority.
03:34:20.000The only ones that can do immigration are the feds.
03:34:26.000So since the feds can't do their job, there's basically nothing keeping, there's no barrier on these illegal aliens.
03:34:32.000So the Republicans really need to hammer this home.
03:34:35.000And unless you're someone like me who's In that world and understands how immigration works, you wouldn't know these little nuanced things that I'm talking about right now.
03:34:41.000So the Republicans need to fucking hash this out and explain to the public how When the Democrats are in, immigration goes crazy, not only because they're able to come in, but because law enforcement's ability to enforce immigration law is heavily reduced.
03:35:12.000Which I think that was fucked up because that inevitably puts Trump in a defensive position and puts Kamala where she doesn't have to do anything.
03:35:47.000Yeah, I mean, look, that was done intentionally to basically remind the American people that Jan 6 happened, remind the American people about Charlottesville.
03:35:57.000And so even though he talked about the BLM riots, I mean, most of the left think that those riots were okay.
03:36:05.000And so in reality, it was intentionally done, as he said.
03:36:09.000So that was, I agree with you, it was an extremely biased question.
03:36:13.000Intentionally done because there's no way he comes out looking well on that.
03:36:17.000And I'm glad that I have you here, because you're someone that doesn't even like Trump, but you even acknowledged that was fucked up, that they brought that up.
03:36:33.000Now, if the debate was on Fox, it would be biased.
03:36:37.000And that's the reason why Kamala Harris isn't agreeing to go on Fox News.
03:36:41.000So it shows that Trump is willing to go and debate on a channel which is an adversary and is going to be very harsh on him.
03:36:48.000So you have to give him credit for that.
03:36:49.000But yeah, I mean, that's definitely going to happen.
03:36:51.000Alright, so I guess we'll skip the January whole 6th issue, but I just thought that that was really interesting that they even brought that up, which automatically puts Trump in a losing position.
03:37:02.000Because basically what they wanted to do was paint him as an insurrectionist, is what they wanted to do.
03:37:44.000His response was, oh, they're weaponizing the justice system.
03:37:50.000But then their response was, wait a sec, why are you talking about weaponizing the justice system when you yourself said that when you're in charge, you're going to be weaponizing the justice system.
03:37:58.000So I felt like they really got him on that.
03:38:00.000And I think it was the ABC people who got him on that.
03:38:02.000So I think that was something that he was really weak on because he wasn't expecting it.
03:38:07.000Yeah, I knew that at some point they were going to bring up the conviction, the sexual assault, which is a civil case, and that woman didn't even know what rape meant.
03:38:20.000Again, it was another biased attempt by them to try to make them look bad, but that's something that you just got to obviously roll with the punches.
03:38:28.000Then the next topic they talked about was Israel-Palestine.
03:38:33.000You're obviously probably one of the most outspoken people on Twitter on this topic.
03:38:38.000So I'll kind of just defer to you here.
03:39:53.000And actually, in this election, you know what I told you at the beginning of the show, that I said that someone needs to be taught a lesson so that they know that these votes are going to matter.
03:40:03.000And I thought it's going to happen from the left.
03:40:04.000And that's why I supported the actual moving your vote away from the Democrats and making them lose the election so they realize that we can't be so controlled by the AIPAC and by the various lobbies.
03:40:50.000So even though she's at fault for the genocide, she is the vice president.
03:40:56.000Despite that being the case, he attacked her.
03:40:58.000He was like, oh, you did not even give Netanyahu respect when the world doesn't even respect Netanyahu.
03:41:02.000So it shows how much he's devoid of reality or He just knows that election is not real and therefore it's going to be rigged for him.
03:41:10.000Because for me, guaranteeing Kamala that vote, that vote that was going to say, we're not going to longer vote for you, the anti-war vote, kind of demonstrates his kind of control that he has and the lack of sovereignty he has over this administration.
03:41:26.000So, on this one, I think they both failed, in my opinion.
03:41:32.000Kamala basically was saying that the war must end, we have to push for a Tuesday solution, and she said that she's going to give Israel whatever they need to defend themselves.
03:41:43.000Trump countered saying that she hates Netanyahu and she hates Israel because she wasn't there when he gave his speech.
03:41:48.000Like you said before, in two to three years Israel will be gone under the Harris administration and that the axes are going to take over.
03:41:55.000And then he also mentioned how when he was in office, Iran didn't have the money and resources that they have now to be able to launch a front against Israel.
03:42:03.000Then KT basically, or Kamala Harris, sorry, counters that she supported Israel her whole career, and she tried to, you know, obviously deflect and say that, you know, Trump admires dictators, and he likes King Jonoon and all this other shit, and then Putin countered,
03:42:19.000and then he countered with, you know, Putin endorsed Harris.
03:42:22.000So, I think they both lost on the Israeli issue because I think the big problem here is Netanyahu.
03:42:29.000Netanyahu is the biggest issue for Israel, and none of them have the balls to say that he's got to step down, we've got to get him out of here.
03:42:37.000And if she wants to go ahead and have the conversation about a two-state solution, well, we've got to get rid of the guy that is never going to let that two-state solution happen, and that is Netanyahu.
03:42:45.000I mean, he's been caught on tape multiple times talking about how he sabotaged it and how he doesn't actually want to work with Netanyahu.
03:43:09.000He's going to have to deal with, you know, the chickens are going to have to roost, right?
03:43:13.000Because we know he was in the middle of a criminal case right before this conflict occurred on October 7th, and it's like fucking perfect timing for him that he would use that to stay in power longer.
03:43:23.000So I think this was a tie between the two.
03:43:25.000I think both of them don't really have a solution.
03:45:34.000So there's now going to be a lot of people who, where he's presented her as being just, she's just presented himself as being just full on pro-Israel.
03:45:42.000And he's presented her as being anti-Netanyahu, even though we know it's not the case.
03:45:47.000And then she's give kind of a balanced response.
03:45:49.000I think she's gained a lot more votes.
03:46:57.000She said at the beginning, but then he destroyed it so badly that at the beginning, I thought she's going to win it because she said, look, he's got no answer on how he's going to deal with this issue.
03:47:04.000How he's going to deal with it is by letting Russia, you know, continue to have the annex regions, continue to have Crimea, continue to have Donetsk, continue to have Oblast.
03:48:03.000What he is going to do is he's going to let Russia just keep the territories that they've conquered and just tell Ukraine, lick your wounds.
03:48:08.000And he's probably going to iron out some deal with Russia where, hey, guys, look, this is the borders.
03:48:16.000You can't pass this area, whatever the hell it is, whatever they decide.
03:48:20.000And I think the strength for Trump is he actually does have open line of communication with Putin versus the Biden administration does not.
03:48:27.000And he even asked her, have you talked to Putin at all?
03:48:29.000You guys haven't talked to Putin in two years.
03:48:32.000And Kamala could not answer that question, which I think is a part of the reason why she went over there and then three days later they invaded because she only spoke to one side.
03:48:44.000So I think that Trump absolutely destroyed her on this situation.
03:48:49.000I agree with you that he doesn't want to disclose how he's going to do it, but I do think what he is going to do is he's just going to let Russia keep what they have and tell Ukraine, deal with it, and then that will end the conflict.
03:48:59.000He can bring them both to the table because he does have an open line of communication with Putin.
03:49:04.000And that's something that he has that the Democratic Party doesn't.
03:49:07.000And I think that's how he was able to avoid Russia invading Ukraine for so long is because he had that relationship with Putin.
03:50:18.000Logically, we all know from knowing that region, from knowing geopolitics, the best way of ending that is just giving the annexed regions to Russia.
03:50:27.000And that means Ukraine takes back the extra territory that Russia has also taken.
03:50:34.000But we know that the pushback is going to be so huge that I'm not confident that it's going to occur, just based on Trump's past.
03:50:40.000Yeah, he's going to have to basically promise no more NATO expansion, give Russia the territories that they have, probably end the sanctions, and that's the only way to do it.
03:50:49.000But yeah, again, optically, that looks terrible.
03:50:51.000And the mainstream media is going to hate that.
03:50:52.000They're going to say he's weak for that.
03:51:36.000This is another issue that even though we are logical, we understand we're anti-war, we understand peace, but actually Americans are pro-Ukraine.
03:51:47.000Because from what I've seen, it seems to me is that they're not supportive of our enormous amount of funding to Zelenskyy.
03:51:54.000I'll get that for you because I was looking at it before I came on your show because I did think that was going to be the case and hence why you've got such a support for it, especially bipartisan.
03:52:03.000Especially because the media said, I'll have to find it.
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03:55:21.000And it says 31% of Americans say you're giving too much support to Ukraine.
03:55:27.000And then you've got 25% saying we're giving the right amount and 24% we should have said that we should give even more and then 18% are like we're not bothered.
03:55:36.000So the vast majority of Americans are saying either you're giving the right amount remember you've given 250 billion according to Trump and you've given the right amount and actually 24% are saying that's not enough like a quarter of a billion is not enough we should give more.
03:56:17.000I think he was able to, because she tried to say, hey, he's negotiating with terrorists.
03:56:22.000He wanted to bring them to Ken David, who's one of her talking points, blah, blah, blah.
03:56:26.000But I think he did a great una-reverse here, and he said, no, we negotiated with them because I was telling this guy, I think Ahmed is what he's saying, the leader of the Taliban, I know where you live.
03:57:02.000That was another one that I thought would be a Trump slam dunk because the way we all view it is Biden, the way he came out of Afghanistan, was horrible.
03:58:05.000So that's much more bigger than the 85 billion in equipment.
03:58:08.000So she has overall saved the United States a huge amount of money.
03:58:13.000They were terrible in terms of getting out.
03:58:15.000She gave him a chance to say that story, which was a bit dumb because she's talking about him bypassing.
03:58:19.000That was a A fundamental error in our point because I've heard that story from Trump.
03:58:24.000So I knew that as soon as she said that, that's what Trump's gonna say.
03:58:27.000So that's why I said it's even because he kind of faulted because now we know it was actually Biden who got him out and she faulted because she gave him the Abdul story.
03:58:37.000Alright, I think he edged her on that one because the way they got out was so fucking bad that even him getting out and saving that money was just a terrible way to go out.
03:58:46.000We lost a lot of classified equipment, etc.
03:58:49.000But I could see your perspective as well.
03:58:58.000I thought the race was put in there to, again, give her an easy win and to turn again the minority public against him and missing a lot of the public in the left.
03:59:08.000But yeah, in terms of Obamacare, in terms of, yeah, I thought he, she won significantly.
03:59:14.000I thought she gave a very, very good reason for why she believes in the importance of Obamacare.
03:59:20.000She talked about the fact that She does believe in private healthcare now as well, even though she made comments in the past that were different.
03:59:27.000When they asked him for his plan, he was like, I've got no plan.
03:59:45.000That's one of my positions that's definitely on the left is that, look...
03:59:49.000I don't care if you're rich or poor, like a poor person should have access to healthcare just because of like the postcode lottery doesn't mean that you shouldn't have access.
03:59:55.000So that is something that not only do I believe in, I think she won considerably and significantly on it.
04:00:53.000I'm gonna do X, Y, Z. Like, he could've went ahead and just sold a dream, right?
04:00:56.000I'm not saying, oh, yeah, yeah, lied to the American public, but dammit, dude, like, you could've had something in place because when they pressed him on it, they asked him twice, he was like, I have concepts and procedures and blah, blah, blah.
04:01:06.000But he didn't have an actual solid plan on how he would deal with it besides saying, Obamacare sucks, it's too expensive, but he didn't give a counter, which I think he could've easily fucking done, but they caught him off guard with that one because, again, They didn't tell the candidates what things were going to be.
04:01:23.000I find it interesting now that we're kind of going through this and we're rehashing the topics that they talked about.
04:01:28.000They didn't talk about the LGBT community.
04:01:31.000They didn't talk about the Department of Education.
04:01:33.000They didn't talk about how they have that stuff in the schools.
04:01:36.000And I think ABC purposely did that because Trump would have smacked her on these social issues.
04:01:42.000With, you know, rainbow flags and all other stuff.
04:01:45.000They, you know, went on to healthcare, you know, but then they want to ask about, you know, him claiming that she's not black in January 6th, right?
04:01:52.000Which I think was very poor on ABC to do, because that's unbiased.
04:02:48.000Yeah, he should have pushed back on the guns thing because she says that I'm a gun owner, blah, blah, blah.
04:02:53.000No, she has supported banning automatic weapons, banning assault rifles.
04:03:00.000She has supported police officers not being in schools.
04:03:04.000Right, which we just had the shooting in Georgia, which if there weren't police officers there, more kids would have gotten killed.
04:03:10.000Those police officers were able to get, were on scene already, and they were able to get the shooter to surrender quickly, and they didn't kill him.
04:03:16.000So it worked out, you know, in the best scenario, in a horrible situation.
04:03:24.000Now me, knowing Trump's policies and knowing what she said, I was able to come to a logically sound conclusion and be like, this woman's full of it, like she's not pro-gun at all.
04:03:32.000But the American public might not know that.
04:05:02.000The same scientists who basically did the propaganda about nuclear winter in the 70s are the same people who were doing this about climate change.
04:05:09.000I did write about this about maybe 15 years ago, actually.
04:05:12.000So I don't want to go too much into climate change unless you ever want to.
04:05:15.000But it is like, I don't believe in it.
04:05:17.000So the point was they asked it on purpose because, again, they want to prepare...
04:05:21.000They want to present Trump as this kind of, like, conspiracy theory guy because when you say that you don't believe in climate change, automatically people do believe that it's conspiracy theory, even in academia.
04:05:46.000But he was presenting a paper on climate change and I literally pushed back on him significantly and they found it as like a conspiracy theory but they couldn't handle the questions which pushed back on it in terms of from a scientific perspective.
04:05:57.000Now why I say that is because The people, American public, as well as British public, as well as academia, do believe that it's actually a conspiracy theory to push back on climate change because the climate is changing.
04:06:10.000But what they're claiming isn't the reason why climate is changing.
04:07:31.000We have way more fucking pressing issues like hungry children, wars, etc.
04:07:35.000It's at the bottom of the list and the fact that they even brought this up in the debate is comical.
04:07:41.000Someone like you that would be a little bit more left, obviously you're a sensible person on the left because a lot of people on the left would actually disagree with you and fight you on this and say you're just a conspiracy theorist because anyone that looks at climate change as a joke is automatically labeled a conspiracy theorist.
04:07:57.000But I just don't think it's important and pertinent.
04:08:00.000But yeah, this quickly turned into a manufacturing job, right?
04:08:04.000She said that she created 800,000 jobs investing in clean energy.
04:08:08.000They invested $3 trillion on this, and she said that she was opening factories.
04:08:13.000Trump countered saying that they lost 10,000 manufacturing jobs this month alone, and he went ahead and claimed that they outsourced some of these manufacturing jobs to China and Mexico.
04:08:26.000I guess you could say split down the middle because this is kind of a topic that I don't even think this should have been asked.
04:08:31.000They should have focused more on American industry so that we can have a more concise and focused conversation on that versus climate change.
04:08:39.000But it's fucking ABC, so what do you expect?
04:08:42.000This is like when they talked about black colleges on the last debate with Biden.
04:08:59.000And just to give you my position on climate change, I not only don't think it's a pertinent issue, I don't think it's a real issue because my point is this, that if you look at history, if you look at the last 200 or 300 years where we've basically got recorded weather changes and climate changes and so on and so forth,
04:09:18.000There's a natural occurrence that occurs.
04:09:20.000And so even though, yes, there is certain areas that are warming, but again, if you look at it, this naturally occurs.
04:09:27.000So if you look at it a thousand years ago, we had natural, naturally the earth became warmer, naturally the earth became cooler.
04:09:34.000And so I don't think, my whole argument is actually that this whole climate change isn't real because they're trying to make it look like it's because of our output.
04:09:42.000Now, industrialization does have some impact, but what they're claiming is definitely not happening.
04:09:46.000So I'm actually trying to say it's a hoax.
04:09:48.000Okay, so you actually fully believe that human industrialization, fossil fuels, etc., have nothing to do with the warming, and you're saying that's a natural byproduct that's been going on for hundreds of years, thousands of years.
04:11:57.000But that's what actually won him the election.
04:11:59.000If you remember very close to the election...
04:12:02.000All the narrative that all of the mainstream media in the United States and all the channels, I used to watch it regularly, was, he's a uniter, Trump's a divider.
04:13:52.000He could have kind of brought that in together how he's not around.
04:13:56.000She's the vice president, strongest in the country, etc., and kind of really hit it home there.
04:14:01.000But I do think he did better on the conclusion than she did, because at the end of the day, we all agree that the economy isn't in a good place, and we have problems, and who's in office?
04:14:40.000And so for that reason, I don't think it was a smart idea for her to go ask for it.
04:14:44.000But I think that was a campaign strategy and a very smart strategy.
04:14:47.000So if I was part of a campaign, I would have done that.
04:14:49.000I would have said, say, you're going to do it again to say that, look, this guy, like, listen, it's more of a like alpha kind of dominating leadership personality to say, look, I smashed you and I'll smash you again.
04:15:02.000So it came from a position of strength.
04:15:57.000I think, now that we've kind of gone through the points and hashed it out, I think Trump edged her, but by the skin of his fucking teeth, bro.
04:17:21.000I think the people that already have their opinions are going to stick with their opinions.
04:17:26.000If you're a Democrat, you're not coming over to Trump after this.
04:17:29.000And if you're a Trump supporter, you're not going over to Kamala.
04:17:31.000If you're in the middle, I think more of those people are probably going to go towards Kamala than to Trump because Trump didn't fucking explain the stuff as well as he should have.
04:17:46.000Hell, J.D. Vance explained some of the stuff better when he sat down with Hannity just now.
04:17:51.000And this is where sometimes it's very important to be a better speaker because you're able to articulate your points and the person that articulates their points better a lot of the times is able to get the support even though their points aren't better.
04:18:03.000In this situation here, like for example with the guns, the immigration, Russia-Ukraine, Afghanistan, these are all things that Trump is superior to her in but he barely won those points when it should have been a clear fucking decisive victory on all of them.
04:18:20.000And that's for me, having back knowledge, knowing where she really stands and where he really stands on this stuff after watching them both speak on this.
04:19:02.000I don't think so because I think right now Trump has more overall supporters at this point.
04:19:06.000I think the polling has kind of shown that, that he's kind of, as Kamala has been ducking the press, ducking interviews, ducking adversarial news stations, she's lost support.
04:19:19.000But now with this debate, people that were in the middle might lean a little bit more towards her, but I don't think it's significant to kind of close on those numbers that Trump gained in the past few weeks from Kamala running from the media.
04:19:33.000Because I think this is actually the first time her feet have been held to the fire.
04:20:08.000I don't remember Trump losing a debate.
04:20:10.000He's won every debate quite convincingly, both in his 2016 primaries, his 2016 presidential debates, his 2020 presidential debates, And then his 2024...
04:20:25.000And remember, in the 2021, both the left and the right were attacking him in the debates.
04:20:31.000Even the Fox News, Megyn Kelly, I remember attacking him even in the debates.
04:20:35.000And he still destroyed Biden in the debate.
04:20:38.000And then this year, he destroyed Biden in the debate.
04:20:40.000So this is the first time I've seen him lose.
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