On this episode of The Right Wing, the boys discuss the new president, Donald Trump, immigration, and much more. We also have a special guest on the show, Chad, who is a long time friend of the show.
00:05:50.000And I can tell you, honey, you can make my money tonight Wake up late, honey, put on your clothes And take your credit card to the liquor store Well, that's one for you and two for me But tonight, I'll be loading like a freight train Flying like an airplane
00:06:15.000Feeling like a space brain one more time tonight I'm on the night train Follow the sun I'm on the night train Fill my car I'm on the night train Ready to crash and burn I never learn I'm on the night train I love that star I'm on the night train I'm on the night train
00:10:03.000I can't do it, I can't do it I can't do it, I can't do it I'm on the night train I'm on the night train Rock in the night train I can't do it, I can't do it Welcome to the stream, guys.
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00:11:02.000You guys came here from Fresh and Fit.
00:11:03.000You guys came here from X, whatever it may be.
00:11:06.000And, you know, as you guys know, we've taken a little bit more of a political stance on a lot of our content, right?
00:11:11.000We cover a multitude of different things, whether it's politics, dating, culture, a bunch of different things like that.
00:11:18.000And obviously, I don't think I've given commentary on this often on immigration, but for those that are unaware, my background, I actually used to work in immigration.
00:11:31.000I mean, there's not many people on the internet that have done the amount of immigration work that I've done, and that's why it was so great when I brought Zach
00:11:43.000Bavikaran back on a couple months ago if you guys remember I was the first person to platform him and We got a lot of views on that where we talked about what's going on on the southwest border With immigration as you guys know that was a hot topic on two days on last year's election I think that was something that Trump campaigned on anyone luckily and but you know obviously
00:12:09.000We're going to get into that a little bit more today with what's going on, because there's been a bunch of stuff going on.
00:12:15.000If you follow politics, if you follow Twitter, you guys know right now that there is a bunch of drama going on with Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy getting a lot of backlash from some of the big names in the MAGA movement.
00:12:33.000You know when it comes to H1B visas immigration in this country And before I go ahead and get started on this thing.
00:12:40.000Let me go ahead and fire up I had a Twitter space ready to go.
00:12:43.000Let me get that thing going I Always start the Twitter spaces a little bit after I start the stream, so I'm starting up the Twitter space right now for you ninjas Let me Let me start it right now.
00:13:01.000Actually, should I start the computer?
00:14:41.000I'm much more political on Twitter than I am on YouTube and everywhere else for, you know, certain reasons, especially, you know, Instagram.
00:14:48.000Because a lot of my political takes would be considered by many to be right-wing, far-right, alt-right, whatever bullshit term they want to use for being a conservative nowadays, because anytime you tell the truth on certain things, they consider you radical or whatever it may be, right?
00:15:04.000So I'm gonna, and for the guys in the space, I'm live on stream right now too, so it might be better if you guys see some of this on video, what I'm gonna be talking about.
00:15:12.000Then I'm gonna open it up for some of the people to come in and speak, right?
00:15:16.000So yeah, so they label me as that, you know, my political viewpoints, obviously, you know, I used to be former law enforcement, I worked in immigration, I understand the border crisis, I know what the hell's going on in the border, I see how people exploit the immigration system, I used to put people in jail for exploiting the immigration system, whether it's visa fraud, marriage fraud, getting fraud through their naturalization process, lying on their forms.
00:15:39.000You name it, I've dealt with it to some degree.
00:15:41.000I used to literally, immigration crimes are one of my specialties because I used to investigate that shit, whether it's human smuggling, human trafficking, all that stuff.
00:15:50.000So, anyway, there's been a lot of talk going on about immigration in the United States.
00:15:57.000As you guys know, Donald Trump campaigned on it in the 2024 election.
00:16:01.000He famously went viral for saying they're eating the cats and dogs.
00:16:04.000If you guys remember, they turned into like a catchy song on TikTok when he was debating Kamala Harris.
00:16:09.000And, you know, he decisively won that debate, right?
00:16:13.000But a lot of MAGA supporters are angry, rightfully so, that...
00:16:21.000Some of those promises and anticipations aren't necessarily going down as expected.
00:16:27.000And as you guys know, Elon Musk was a huge endorser of Trump in the election, and so was a guy named Vivek Ramaswamy.
00:16:34.000Ramaswamy actually wanted to run for president early on, and then he, you know, quickly basically He basically gave up and said, you know, I'm going to basically just go under MAGA and support Trump, which I think was an intelligent decision.
00:16:48.000He was a little too young and politically inexperienced to run for president.
00:16:53.000But I think he made the smart move there.
00:16:54.000But they've been getting a lot of backlash for their support of something called the H-1B visa.
00:17:00.000We're going to talk a little bit more about this H-1B visa and go into detail on it.
00:17:04.000But anyway, here, this comes from Newsweek.
00:17:21.000Just request to speak, um, and if you got a platform or whatever, I'll put, bring you up.
00:17:25.000But anyway, so, a heated debate with the Republican Party over high-skilled immigrants and H-1B work visas has broken out over the otherwise quiet holiday week, reflecting the deep divisions within both the GOP and the Trump base that turned out in force for him in November.
00:17:39.000As you guys know, Trump went on a landslide.
00:17:42.000Elon Musk, backed by tech allies like Venkat Ramaswamy, is finding himself at odds with MAGA, true believers who have long pushed for stricter immigration policies, without a carve-out for the so-called high-skilled workers that they argue are taking well-paying jobs from Americans.
00:17:57.000Laura Loomer, and I will give her credit, she was the one that kind of started this, Laura Loomer was among those to criticize Cyril Ram's, Krishnan's appointment as Trump's AI policy advisor, calling it deeply disturbing.
00:18:11.000Krishnan is a naturalized American citizen.
00:18:13.000On X, Loomer expressed concerns that Silicon Valley's influence on Trump's administration is driven by a specific interest in H-1B visas, which many global tech companies rely heavily on to staff their workforces.
00:18:26.000High-profile voices in tech, who have recently become part of Trump's base of support, are arguing on X and in podcasts that economic competitiveness is a reason for Trump to allow increased immigration for certain high-skill workers from countries like India.
00:18:44.000David Sachs, a South African-American venture capitalist, came to Krishnan's defense in a Christmas Day post.
00:18:50.000He writes, I'm probably pronouncing this shit wrong, but whatever.
00:19:09.000Have a Merry Christmas, Sachs, Rowan X. And this kind of came, Laura stirred up the bee's nest on Christmas Eve.
00:19:16.000So this kind of has been brewing over the past couple of days.
00:19:20.000Meanwhile, Musk, the world's wealthiest man, has benefited from the H-1B program both personally and professionally.
00:19:25.000He first came to the United States on a J-1 academic visa that he says transitioned into an H-1B.
00:19:31.000Tesla is also among the companies to rely on the program, having hired 724 H-1B workers in 2023.
00:19:38.000But MAGA evangelists like Loomer believe Musk's influence within Trump's circle serves his own interests.
00:19:47.000On X, Bloomberg singled out Musk and his tech allies, including Box CEO Aaron Levy and PayPal co-founder Peter Thiel.
00:19:55.000You guys know what that sound effect means.
00:19:57.000Suggesting that the new Doge initiative for government efficiency is just cover for sending funds to Silicon Valley entrepreneurs.
00:20:05.000The rolling online debate became more heated on Thursday when Ramaswamy entered the fray with his own lengthy ex-post arguing that H-1Bs were needed because American culture did not prioritize work ethic the way Indian culture does.
00:20:19.000Indian immigrants received nearly three-quarters of all H-1B visas in 2023, according to USCIS data.
00:20:28.000companies to employ foreign workers in specialty occupations, particularly in the tech industry.
00:20:32.000Since Trump was elected last month, discussions about reforming the program have intensified, with some advocating for removing country-specific caps on green cards to address backlogs faced by applicants from countries like India.
00:20:47.000Krishnan, Musk and Ramaswamy support such reforms, arguing that the current system leads to unfair waiting times for qualified applicants.
00:20:55.000In his post viral on Thursday, Ramaswamy argued that top tech companies prefer hiring foreign-born engineers due to cultural differences, not inherent IQ advantages.
00:21:05.000We're going to go over that Ramaswamy tweet here in a little bit, guys.
00:21:09.000I'm just kind of painting a picture for you guys here of what the hell is going on.
00:21:14.000A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math Olympiad champ or the jock over the valedictorian will not produce the best engineers, Ramaswamy wrote, prompting a strong response from Trump's U.N.
00:21:27.000ambassador and one-time opponent Nikki Haley.
00:21:31.000There's nothing wrong with American workers on American culture.
00:21:34.000We should invest in and prioritize Americans, not foreign workers, she wrote.
00:21:38.000And what amounted to be to one of the first big attacks on Ramaswamy and Musk from the right, which is fucking crazy that someone like Nikki Haley, who is a neocon war hawk that is owned by a certain state in the Middle East, actually making sensible comments.
00:22:10.000While Trump has been vocal about his plans for illegal immigration, he has spent less effort discussing what he plans to do with those who aspire to work in the U.S.
00:22:19.000On the campaign trail, he talked about the prospects for legal immigration reform, even suggesting that students who got an advanced degree deserve the opportunity of a green card.
00:22:28.000Namely, him and Charlie Kirk both said that foreign nationals should graduate with green cards stapled to their diplomas.
00:22:39.000Or college degrees, whatever you want to say.
00:22:44.000Which is wild, and we're going to get into that.
00:22:47.000So what I'll do is, you graduated from college, I think you should get automatically as part of your diploma a green card to be able to stay in this country.
00:22:54.000Trump said, oh, okay, I was closer than I thought to what he said.
00:22:56.000And Trump said that, and that was obviously echoed by, you know, Charlie Kirk, the head of Turning Point USA.
00:23:03.000Demo Michalev of an immigration attorney, I probably butchered that name, I apologize, said that Trump's first term gives a glimpse of what to expect when he retakes power on January 20th.
00:23:13.000Not much has been said about legal migration, but if we are to look back at the first Trump term, we should certainly expect changes to the legal immigration system.
00:23:25.000But while Silicon Valley leaders advocate for relaxed restrictions on high-skilled immigration to enhance America's global competitiveness, Trump's first term took a contradictory approach.
00:23:35.000During his 2016 campaign, Trump vowed to create a big, beautiful door for legal immigration.
00:23:39.000However, his administration, heavily influenced by his unofficial immigration czar, Stephen Miller, worked to quietly put up barriers within the visa and work permit issuance process, according to experts who spoke with Newsweek.
00:23:51.000And let me see here, how much longer this thing is.
00:23:58.000Some of the things from the first administration were regulations tightening up things like third-party placement, an increase in requests for evidence and denials, higher standards that actually fell in court quite a bit, says Stephen Brown, attorney for the Texas-based immigration law firm Reddy Newman Brown PC.
00:24:12.000Despite this experience in his first term, Mark, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which advocates for less immigration, told Newsweek that he believes Trump is not a restrictionist, but instead someone who believes in legal migration and hopes the process receives necessary reform.
00:24:29.000So, okay, that kind of highlights the thing.
00:24:38.000Now let me show you guys some of the tweets that led to this fire and then we're going to kind of go into my take on it and everything else.
00:24:46.000So Laura Loomer wrote this tweet and she literally started like a fucking war on this thing.
00:26:17.000It goes, all the tech bros are up in arms today after my tweet about H-1B visa sparked a civil war online between MAGA and the tech bros who have infiltrated Mar-a-Lago, the tech bros from Palantir, and their investors want all of us to calm down as they tell us, don't worry, we won't be trying to influence immigration policy.
00:26:34.000Let me show you how and why they are lying to all of you.
00:26:39.000Did you know that former anti-Trump Congressman Mike Gallagher, you know, the same Mike Gallagher who fucked over the GOP this year when he refused to vote in support of impeaching Biden's pro-open borders and pro-invasion DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, is now working for Palantir to run their defense business and he has been put in charge of identifying contract opportunities and guiding research and development for Palantir.
00:27:00.000Mike Gallagher voted in support of sending billions of dollars to Ukraine.
00:27:03.000He refused to vacate the chair against Kevin McCarthy.
00:27:06.000He resigned from Congress early to weaken the GOP majority.
00:27:09.000And right after he voted to protect Alejandro Mayorkas, he went to work for Palantir because Gallagher knew he would be working for Palantir, and Palantir has contracts with the Department of Homeland Security, which is controlled by Mayorkas.
00:27:37.000Vance's Senate campaign, and now Palantir is trying to infiltrate the White House, even though none of the Palantir co-founders supported Trump during the primary.
00:27:46.000A lot of hard truths in this tweet, huh?
00:27:48.000These tech executives protected Alejandro Mayorkas via their mole Mike Gallagher.
00:27:53.000Mayorkas then went on to deny Trump extra secret service protection, which led to him almost getting assassinated.
00:27:59.000As you guys remember, back in mid-July, Trump, you know, thankfully survived the bullets fired by the would-be assassin.
00:28:11.000It wasn't Ryan Ralph, it was the other guy.
00:28:49.000And now these Palantir tech executives and their investors have infiltrated the White House.
00:28:52.000If they cared about stopping illegal immigration, they wouldn't have protected Alejandro Mayorkas by hiring Gallagher before he resigned from Congress.
00:28:58.000Gallagher was the deciding vote on the first round that delayed the impeachment of Mayorkas in the House.
00:29:04.000Palantir makes more money when we have open borders and migrant crime.
00:29:08.000Their business model thrives off of war and violence.
00:29:10.000Gallagher's last vote in Congress was with the Democrats to protect his future employer, Palantir Tech, by not impeaching Mayorkas since Palantir gets DHS contracts.
00:29:19.000And I can tell you guys that it's true.
00:29:23.000So don't allow these tech executives to gaslight you into thinking they actually care about stopping illegal immigration.
00:29:28.000They want to subvert the Trump admin to stop border security so they can get defense contracts and enrich themselves with billions of dollars.
00:29:35.000Nobody tied to Palantir should be allowed to serve in Trump's cabinet.
00:29:38.000Mark my words, their financial disclosure forms will show direct and substantial financial interest in Palantir tech and other companies with conflicts.
00:29:48.000And then she goes ahead and posts a bunch of proof with articles showing Mayorkas' connection to Palantir.
00:30:01.000This is Alex Karp, the CEO of Palantir Tech.
00:30:05.000You know what that sound effect means.
00:30:06.000On Fox News today, being the smug elitist that he is, he co-founded Palantir with Peter Thiel, who earlier this year wouldn't even confirm if he was supporting Trump and Vance.
00:30:14.000And I'll play this 10 second clip for you guys.
00:30:34.000So now the H-1B visa, as you guys know, real quick, just to go over it because I know a lot of people might not be versed in immigration.
00:30:41.000So I'm going to quickly read what the H-1B visa is because that's what a lot of this is coming from.
00:30:45.000The H-1B is an employer sponsored non-immigrant classification, which allows persons who are not citizens or permanent residents of the U.S.
00:30:51.000to work in a specialty occupation for up to six years with very limited exceptions.
00:30:55.000Employer-sponsored means that the employer must apply for the H-1B on behalf of the prospective H-1B employee through the United States Citizens Immigration Services, USCIS, specialty occupation which means a position that requires specialized knowledge and skills.
00:31:32.000Long story short, guys, it is a visa that allows companies to employ and hire foreign nationals, okay?
00:31:42.000And these are some other tweets that Laura Loomer had, right?
00:31:45.000Calling out David Sachs, calling out Elon Musk, because after this all happened, right?
00:31:53.000Laura Loomer and a bunch of other right-wing commentators on Twitter, we're calling out Vivek Ramaswamy and Laura Loomer, right?
00:32:02.000Ratioing them, making them look crazy, etc.
00:32:04.000And Vivek Ramaswamy and obviously Elon Musk got a lot of backlash for this, right?
00:32:11.000You know, more immigration, right, at the cost of Americans losing jobs, especially jobs in the tech industry, really doesn't benefit anyone but these tech oligarchs, right?
00:32:22.000And this kind of leads me to my monologue here.
00:32:26.000Now that you guys understand what transpired, give me ones in the chat if this all makes sense to you guys.
00:33:28.000I'm glad that you mentioned that because I was actually going to talk about that, but we have another immigration professional here saying it for me.
00:33:34.000Myron, did you ask the other guys if you were able to add a yearly subscription before December 31st?
00:34:07.000For two high IQ individuals who claim to be, to get the root of the issue, this is very Band-Aid like of them.
00:34:12.000Elon says Americans aren't driven enough, but instead of driving cultural change through policy and mass media campaigns, we're opting for the easy way out.
00:34:20.000Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna talk about this here in a second with why this could be problematic.
00:34:39.000Yeah, he's a Border Patrol agent, and we had a discussion on this a couple weeks ago, which I highly encourage you guys, after you watch the stream, to watch the stream that I did with Zach.
00:34:48.000You got two immigration, people that used to enforce immigration, talking about this at great detail.
00:34:57.000So, let's go back in time a little bit here.
00:35:03.000And talk about this, why this is causing such an uproar, right?
00:35:09.000So as you guys know, MAGA has always been very pro-strong border, anti-mass immigration, and you know, Limiting visas that give foreign nationals an edge over Americans.
00:35:23.000Whether it's the F-1 visa that allows people to come here as students, J-1 visas, which is kind of like an exchange student visa, or H-1B visas.
00:35:34.000These are all visas that foreign nationals always fucking exploit.
00:36:03.000After January 6th, he was heavily censored.
00:36:07.000Mark Zuckerberg and a bunch of these other tech bros, they didn't do anything.
00:36:13.000To help him, they censored him, and after Trump got censored after the whole January 6th incident, they banned him on Facebook, they banned him on YouTube, they banned him on Twitter, he was literally banned everywhere.
00:36:23.000So he only had Truth Social and Rumble to tell his side.
00:36:27.000Shortly after that, he was indicted in multiple districts, got indicted in the state of New York, got indicted in the state of Georgia, got indicted federally in the southern district of Florida, and got indicted in the district of Washington, D.C.
00:38:26.000They're going to push for immigration because H-1B visas are a very easy way to get around hiring an American citizen because it's cheaper labor.
00:38:37.000Cheaper labor means higher profit margins and it's a way to kind of get around things.
00:38:46.000He was launching Graper War, where he wanted to essentially tell people, look, we need to put pressure on the Trump campaign to, you know, to do what we want, which is, you know, no immigration and we don't want a war with Iran, which I think are somewhat sensible requests, right?
00:39:04.000We don't want a war with Iran for what?
00:39:08.000And, you know, immigration a lot of the times isn't beneficial when we got people here at home that can do a lot of the same jobs, right?
00:39:17.000So, as you guys know, I still support Trump.
00:39:19.000I still went out and voted for Trump because my personal concern when I was voting was foreign policy and ending wars.
00:39:26.000And I do think that, you know, Trump is going to quickly end the Russia-Ukraine conflict, and I think he's going to be able to reel in Netanyahu with what's going on in the Middle East and stop a greater conflict going on over there.
00:39:37.000So for me, I think, and then from an economic standpoint as well, and, you know, the whole alphabet soup stuff with the kids and everything, you know, I think Trump was a no-brainer for me.
00:39:47.000You know, though I understand and I see that there's an immigration problem, I didn't think immigration was enough of a voting point for me personally to not vote for Trump.
00:39:59.000I had to show up and vote for him because, like I said before, I think world war and nuclear warfare Is more important to me personally than than immigration, but I understand why people have issues with the immigration it creates problems now With that said, right, just so you guys understand kind of what's going on here at the southwest border, people are coming in and quite frankly they're getting something called an NTA ROR, guys, released on owner cognizance.
00:40:27.000I went into detail with this with Zach on our last podcast, but I'll kind of rehash it because I understand that not everyone might have been there for that podcast.
00:40:34.000So just to make you guys understand, right, when Trump was in office and I was on the southwest border, Every illegal alien that was getting caught in Laredo, Texas and a lot of the Southwest border was getting something called an expedited removal.
00:41:04.000Well, this is good because it keeps the cost down.
00:41:08.000They don't bog down our immigration system because we do have a parallel judicial system that is only for immigration in the United States that parallels our criminal one, right?
00:41:18.000And that judicial system is much longer than the criminal one.
00:41:23.000You might not see an immigration judge for years if you're apprehended, right?
00:41:27.000So these illegal aliens being arrested and processed with something called an expedited removal would really save us a lot of time and a lot of taxpayer dollars.
00:41:38.000Under Biden, these aliens were getting something called a notice to appear released on owner cognizance.
00:41:45.000And what that basically means is these aliens come in.
00:41:48.000And illegal alien, by the way, guys, is the term that you use in the INA, which specifies the laws around immigration, Immigration Nationality Act of the United States.
00:41:57.000When they come in, right, these illegal aliens, when they come in and they get apprehended by a Border Patrol or they're encountered by law enforcement, immigration law enforcement, they get something now called the NTA ROR, which means released on owner cognizance.
00:42:12.000And what that basically means is they're released to someone in the United States that's going to care for them.
00:42:21.000Now the problem is, as I discussed before, a lot of these times these aliens don't see a judge for years.
00:42:27.000So, they're gone in the wind, they can't track them down, and if they're not a criminal alien, a lot of the times, they make it out scot-free.
00:42:37.000ICE has something called the Criminal Alien Program, and unless you're a convicted felon or you have multiple crimes of moral interpretude, which I'm really getting in the weeds here, but I might as well just say it, ICE isn't gonna come looking for you guys.
00:42:54.000Immigration is a very dirty word in the political world, and whether you're a Democrat or you're a Republican, it's almost a catch-22, because if you enforce it, people look at you as a homewrecker, right?
00:43:08.000But if you don't enforce it, people are like, what the fuck is going on?
00:43:19.000A lot of the times is, depending on who's in office, that heavily dictates how aggressive ICE is in pursuing these illegal aliens that make it into the United States, thanks to Border Patrol or Customs or whoever gave them that N-T-A-R-O-R in the beginning.
00:43:45.000A sanctuary city is a city where they will not do anything to determine alienage, to arrest illegal aliens, and a lot of the times, they don't honor something called the detainer.
00:43:59.000And the detainer, guys, is where, if an illegal alien is arrested, right, And ICE identifies that individual as an illegal alien, they'll place something called a detainer, which means, hey, hold the prisoner for us.
00:44:12.000ICE is going to come pick him up when he's released from the jail on his state charges.
00:44:16.000Because the state actually has zero authority to enforce immigration law.
00:44:22.000What a lot of these local and state agencies do is they won't honor the detainer, especially if it's like in a sanctuary city, like let's say a fucking San Francisco.
00:44:37.000So, what ends up happening is, these people get released, and then they go and commit more crimes.
00:44:41.000And we've seen this in the United States where innocent Americans, I think a child or some young, a young, a young girl was killed earlier this year by an illegal alien that should have been apprehended by ICE.
00:44:53.000If you guys don't, if you guys don't mind, someone put her name in the chat.
00:45:22.000The H-1B visa is nothing more than a visa that allows big tech companies and other companies To get around hiring American citizens that are qualified and paying them more.
00:45:38.000It's a fucking go around for these companies to increase their profit margins, get cheaper labor, and a lot of the times these foreign nationals that they import in aren't even better than the fucking Americans that are here.
00:45:51.000It's a dirty little secret that no one wants to hear, but that's the reality.
00:45:55.000When Vivek and Elon and all these guys say, oh yeah, we need to bring in talented workers, it's bullshit.
00:46:00.000Half the time when they bring these guys in from India, they can't have a fucking code.
00:46:05.000They're not necessarily better than the people that we have here.
00:46:08.000It's just that they're willing to take less.
00:46:13.000So now, you guys can see why a lot of these big tech guys are trying To get into the White House and kind of increase their own bottom line.
00:46:24.000And one thing I like about being on the right is that they're willing to call out this bullshit.
00:47:03.000So the O-1 visa, guys, is a temporary work visa.
00:47:07.000For individuals' extraordinary ability or achievement in the following fields, science, education, business, athletics, arts, motion picture, and TV industry, to qualify an applicant must have received national or international acclaim, show evidence of extraordinary ability or achievement, and meet a very high standard.
00:47:22.000So, if we're actually going to go ahead and bring these people in, right, that are so extraordinary, according to Elon and Vivek, and this is why they're getting the backlash, right, because people aren't stupid.
00:47:37.000What their bottom line is, they want to bring in cheap labor.
00:47:42.000An O-1 visa, you actually have to be talented!
00:47:45.000I know someone that got an O-1 visa, I'm not gonna say who it is.
00:47:49.000But, you guys probably know him, he's a YouTuber.
00:47:52.000But, you gotta fill out a packet, you gotta do a lot of work, you have to have references, you actually have to be good at what you fucking do!
00:48:01.000So, if we want to bring in the top scientists, top engineers, et cetera, which I have no problem with bringing the best and the brightest, but they got to prove they're the best and the brightest.
00:48:21.000It's a way for these tech companies to get cheap labor and increase their bottom line.
00:48:26.000Now, while we're on the topic of visas, let's talk about the J-1 visa and F-1 visa, which I honestly do think this is like a blind spot that a lot of people don't talk about And unless you worked in immigration, you're not gonna know.
00:48:38.000And I know I got some guys in here, might be CBP, might be DHS.
00:48:41.000You guys know exactly what I'm talking about when I talk about F-1 visas.
00:48:44.000I think one of the most exploited visas in the United States is the F-1 visa, which is a student visa.
00:48:53.000Because what ends up happening a lot of times with these guys is they come to the United States, right?
00:48:59.000They say that they're gonna go to like, a language school, or a culinary school, or some other bullshit like that.
00:49:05.000And what ends up happening, is, they might go to class for a semester, they might go for a day, they might not even show up.
00:49:24.000And a lot of the times, Like I said before, if they're not a criminal alien, or they don't get encountered again by law enforcement, they're gone in the fucking wind.
00:51:48.000Where foreign nationals from South America will marry someone here, the going rate is somewhere between $10,000 and $20,000, right?
00:51:55.000And they just basically pay him, fake a marriage, they prepare for the CIS interview, they lie, they fake the wedding pictures, they fake the bank accounts, all this shit, and then applies for his green card, gets the green card, or she applies for her green card, done!
00:54:26.000As much as people say that we have our problems, sure, you can go out and make complaints about our insurance and, you know, we can talk about Luigi Mangione and all this other shit.
00:54:37.000Is that when it comes to opportunity and the ability to build yourself up, right, and create some real wealth for yourself, no one comes close to the United States, guys.
00:56:25.000I understand the need for immigration to a degree.
00:56:28.000But when you just let anybody in, and everyone's a fucking refugee, your country's gonna be overtaken!
00:56:35.000And the problem, right, also with the H1B thing, which I'm just gonna say it, right, is that you're not just importing a foreign worker, you're importing their fucking culture.
00:56:46.000And a lot of the times, these people come from countries That don't respect freedom of speech, don't respect democracy, don't respect liberty, right?
00:59:34.000As you guys know, when I was working for Uncle Sam back in the day, one of my specialties was I investigated something called human smuggling.
00:59:41.000Not to be confused with human trafficking.
00:59:44.000People conflate the two all the time and they're completely different crimes.
00:59:48.000One's under Title 18, the other one is under Title 8.
01:02:33.000No, you're not fucking crossing, because if you try to cross that river, the fucking Zetas are... I think it's cartels, no, let's stay down.
01:03:00.000And an exotic guy is basically what smugglers do.
01:03:02.000If you're from India, Pakistan, Arab countries, China, that's considered exotic.
01:03:08.000You're not a Hispanic from South America, the smugglers charge you more.
01:03:13.000So not only does he have to pay now the $2,000 to cross the bridge, excuse me, cross the river, the Rio Grande, and that goes to the cartel.
01:04:48.000Him and 50 other illegal aliens get smuggled from Laredo into San Antonio, and then that's the transit spot, and that's where all the families come and meet their, you know, aliens that they paid to get into the United States, and then, bam, they take them to the city that they're gonna go to, because San Antonio, Texas, multiple highways go through, and the biggest highway that goes through is Interstate Highway 10.
01:05:56.000You guys are probably wondering, well Myron, okay, now we know how the illegal aliens come in and the network that's responsible for that, but what about human trafficking?
01:06:03.000Well, the human trafficking a lot of times, guys, occurs, which by the way, like the video, ninjas.
01:06:07.000Y'all are not going to get an in-depth explanation like this anywhere else on the fucking internet, by the way, so like the goddamn video.
01:06:12.000We got, what, 5,000 y'all ninjas watching right now across the platforms.
01:08:47.000And that's the big difference between the two.
01:08:49.000Human smuggling is for them to come into the United States and they pay a smuggler to get in.
01:08:55.000Human trafficking typically occurs when they can't pay those human smuggling debts.
01:09:00.000There's other instances as well where human trafficking occurs, of course, but I'm just giving you how the human trafficking can be tied in with the human smuggling.
01:09:07.000Obviously, there's sex trafficking as well.
01:09:17.000Okay, so I will go ahead and read chats, and I'm gonna look at the Twitter space as well right now Let me see who's in here Let's see I Think we lost Zach which that's a bummer because he is a former Border Patrol agent So he would know a lot of this stuff that I that I'm talking about But let's see here Looking looking
01:10:06.000But I gave you a co-host so that you can do it so weird I have to like do it on my phone because the web app is so fucking trash and also guys give me a solid we got a 2.4 K on yeah, we got almost 5100 images in here watching so guys like the video for me I'd really appreciate that we did an early start time for y'all And I'm gonna go ahead and go to the chats here well Brett sees if anybody wants to come up that we know or might have a good take on this and
01:14:54.000Why are we letting people in the country?
01:14:56.000I mean, because you know me and you agree on a lot of different stuff with both the immigration, uh, you know, we both work for immigration services, you know, me border patrol, you ICE.
01:15:03.000Why do you want, and I'm not trying to come at you, dude, you know this is respectful.
01:15:07.000Why, why let anybody into the country right now?
01:15:09.000Well, what I'm saying is, if they're gonna go ahead, my criticism is simply that if we're gonna let people into the country, right, and we're gonna bring in people with extraordinary skill, like Elon Musk and Vivek were talking about, I was saying they need to do it through the O-1 visa.
01:15:43.000Like I said, I'm heavily on immigration restriction as well.
01:15:45.000I'm just saying, if Vivek and Elon want to push for extraordinary ability like they claim, I'm saying they need to do it through the 0-1 route, not the H-1B route.
01:15:56.000And you can assume they're lying, right?
01:17:16.000And here's the thing, like, unless you've been on the southwest border, you see, like, you know, the problems that immigration causes, uh, you know, you're not...
01:17:26.000And I don't expect them to understand, Vivek and Elon, because they're only dealing with a small percentage of the immigration problem from a very nuanced angle.
01:17:36.000And the whole H-1B thing is, I think it's one of the scamiest visas there are.
01:17:40.000It's just a way for big tech, especially, to get cheap labor.
01:17:43.000And they've been exploiting that for years.
01:17:45.000And I'm glad that Laura Loomer kind of brought attention to this shit.
01:17:49.000Because a lot of people don't don't know about it right, but I was talking about earlier I don't know if you're in a space I talked about how we're kind of getting attacked when it comes to immigration from multiple different angles We have the issues on the southwest border, but then we also have the exploitation of certain visas J1, F1, H1B's We have overstays with visas a lot of times with these people we have people that come in as Immigrant wait, sorry, non visa waiver countries and they overstay their visas especially for fucking Canada and France so
01:18:18.000We're getting hit with immigration on multiple different angles, and it's a problem, and the visas are one of the most exploited ones.
01:18:23.000Yeah, they're killing us on every angle.
01:18:25.000Obviously the visas, obviously on the NTOIs.
01:18:28.000They're sneaking in illegally undetected, and the American quality of life has just plummeted.
01:18:33.000And, as a matter of principle, we don't want- I'm telling you, most people, and I know that you're an everyday guy, but I'm telling you, firsthand, we don't want nobody else coming into our country.
01:18:43.000And it's hard for me to sit- and not coming against you, but like the kid Ed Krasenstein earlier, it's hard for me to sit here and listen to it, when I put my job and my life on the line to speak out against it, we win, and we're supposed to close the border, and now we want to bring thousands, if not millions of people, into America.
01:18:56.000And I can't sit here and just take it and say, yeah, yeah, these people just aren't, uh, they don't know, no, no, no, no.
01:19:05.000I don't care if you never committed a crime in your life other than crossing the border illegally or overstaying your visa, you should be removed.
01:19:18.000When you signed up to be an ICE agent, did you not sign up to rip people out of the country and put them back into their country if they overstayed or whatever it was?
01:19:24.000Well, we focus more on the smugglers, but same shit.
01:19:26.000Like, you're going after the infrastructure that allows illegal smuggling to happen in the first place, right?
01:19:30.000Because we know that- I understand you're going after big- you're going- you were going after bigger fish, but I'm saying if your boss told you to take out, uh, there's somebody- there's three people there that are illegal, they never committed a crime, they told you to remove them, you would have done it.
01:19:40.000That's what you signed up to do, essentially.
01:19:41.000Yeah, I've been out with Border Patrol and I've physically removed people where I brought them to the Mexican border on the bridge and turned them over to Mexican authorities.
01:20:02.000And I was explaining to them, I was also explaining to them before you came in, how immigration is a very political, it's a political dirty word, and depending on who's in office, if the Democrats are in office, a lot of times they're much more lax on immigration.
01:20:14.000Can you explain to the people real quick, because I explained to them the ER process and notice-to-appears, and how a lot of these illegal aliens were getting notice-to-appears, but what were you guys doing at the border, if you could kind of just quickly explain to them when you guys would catch an illegal alien?
01:20:26.000Okay, so before this whole debacle happens, someone would cross you to do an ER.
01:20:54.000Now, what was happening was these people were getting NTAORs, which, as you know, you couldn't even get somebody that was going to help your case get one.
01:21:01.000Now, all of a sudden, they're giving them out like candy.
01:21:05.000Let me explain that to the audience real quick.
01:21:06.000So chat, I would get, like, let's say they would catch a load of illegal aliens and one of the guys in there was like, could be a good informant.
01:21:13.000I'd ask Border Patrol, I'd beg, can you please give them an NTA ROR?
01:22:22.000That's just the point, and we're seeing that people that we kind of supported as an American first movement, they're immediately turning our backs on us.
01:22:30.000So that's why as a matter of principle, anyone that supports that, I can't stand for.
01:22:36.000Yeah, no, I mean, I've absolutely, I think, you know, the immigration, it is a problem and we need to restrict this significantly and bringing in, and my issue, look, my biggest thing is like, we're taking, because these H-1B visas, man, I think it's one of the most exploited visas we have, and I'm so glad that Laura brought attention to this shit, because I've been, like, I've known this shit for years, but I didn't really talk about it because most Americans don't understand this shit.
01:23:03.000Guys, they're literally using these H-1B visas to hire people so that they can just pay them less.
01:23:09.000It's like a fucking corporate loophole where these big-ass companies hire these people, right, under the premise of getting a job, and then what ends up happening a lot of times is these guys get these H-1B visas and they're able to transition and get a green card, etc., and they're basically kind of just able to segue in and get this job.
01:23:26.000And they go back and smuggle more people, Myron.
01:23:28.000You know how many people have caught in cars on H-1B visas smuggling more people illegally and nothing happens and they don't get prosecuted, nothing gets removed?
01:23:38.000So now they exploited that system and now they're exploring it further by picking up people at the border, driving them in that we don't even know who they are.
01:23:44.000Meanwhile, in the we're talking about kids now that are getting raped and trafficked and killed.
01:23:57.000There's a woman getting burned alive to death by a Guatemalan immigrant.
01:24:00.000I mean, I hate the fact that history's gonna be kind to me, but I saw this coming.
01:24:03.000It didn't take a genius to understand.
01:24:05.000It just took a guy like me with a little bit of courage, I love this country, and said, you know what?
01:24:08.000I'll put my job on the line to tell the truth.
01:24:10.000And luckily I had you to give me a platform to do so, and you still are.
01:24:14.000Yeah, no, I mean, I think it's important and something that very few people, like, I don't think any political commentators can talk to this level of detail when it comes to immigration because unless, and I don't blame them, unless you've worked immigration yourself, you're not going to understand this shit.
01:24:28.000And actually, matter of fact, guys, anyone that has questions, you guys have two people here that probably know more about the INA than anyone else on the internet that I know of.
01:24:37.000So if you guys got some questions or whatever, get your questions in.
01:24:39.000You can go ahead and send them in on a RumbleRant, Castle Club chat.
01:24:43.000Or FNFsuperchat.com ask your questions because you guys honestly have a unique Experience here.
01:24:48.000You got an investigator needs to do deal with this shit, but um, but sorry go ahead You were saying Zack?
01:24:54.000No, it's just funny that, you know, you'll get border patrol agents or ICE guys that are retired that, you know, I did it while I was employed.
01:25:20.000It's up to you, but do you want to talk about... because I saw this coming when you came on our show, so I'll kind of let you... We already knew that it was coming, so... Do you want to tell them what you've dealt with?
01:25:27.000We... I don't want to make it about me, it's about the immigration thing, dude.
01:25:31.000Listen, I'm an American first, but just so you know, because me and you haven't had a chance to talk, they went to talk to me.
01:25:56.000So by them interviewing me and me participating in that, that's just showing the next whistleblower that he's going to be forced to participate in that.
01:26:02.000And listen, if you're working for the government, And you want to come forward and tell the truth because you love your country?
01:26:23.000Okay, so, so Chad, this is the way it goes, right?
01:26:26.000When you're a government employee, because I really want you guys to understand what Zach is really risking even having this conversation with me right now and coming on the show.
01:26:34.000When you're a government employee and you're a gun toter, you're law enforcement, right?
01:26:38.000If any type of allegation comes across, whether it's, you know, inappropriate behavior, or you get a DUI, you get arrested for some bullshit, or someone in the office complains about you, or any of this shit, what's up happening is it automatically gets sent to something called the Joint Intake Center, right?
01:26:56.000And what'll happen is, is that will automatically send a referral over to the Office of Professional Responsibility, as well as Office of Inspector General.
01:27:04.000Now, just to explain this to you guys, Office of Professional Responsibility, think of them as Internal Affairs, right?
01:27:10.000They're Internal Affairs for Border Patrol, right?
01:27:13.000So, they're going to go ahead and do administrative investigations of misconduct when it comes to policy, code, whatever the fuck it may be, right?
01:27:44.000Now, with that said, Zach Smart went to the OIG first, said, look, I'm going to go ahead and whistleblow on this shit.
01:27:52.000And I didn't know you did that, which is smart that you did that.
01:27:54.000Then he came out and then obviously as a matter of, you know, they have to do it.
01:28:00.000OPR obviously had to open up a case and they went ahead and brought him in and they do something called a, I think it's called a Garrity interview if I'm not mistaken, where you are compelled to come in and answer questions because you're not under a criminal proceeding.
01:28:15.000So they can ask you questions and you have to answer.
01:28:17.000They swear you in and you answer the questions.
01:28:21.000In this case, Zach, you said you just told them basically pound stand and not answering questions, right?
01:28:25.000I said, uh, because other whistleblowers are behind me and I've done nothing wrong, that I'm not going to participate in this interview because they're going to feel compelled to participate in the same interview if they've told the truth on a public platform.
01:28:43.000And that's what I was trying to do is save people's lives like that woman on the train by telling the American public, this is much worse than you're being told it is.
01:29:20.000And he's one of the biggest senators in the country and he advised me not to do it.
01:29:25.000He advised me not to do it because he said, listen, these agencies, essentially what he said were, these agencies are rogue, they get away with whatever they want and I can't protect you.
01:29:33.000That's what one of the most powerful senators in the country told me.
01:29:37.000And I mean, given that you went that pathway, I don't blame you because it's a compelled interview and when you do a compelled interview, you know, Look, the only thing that could really save you when you do those compelled interviews is, like, not lying.
01:29:51.000Like, just... Because when you do those things, you can't lie.
01:29:54.000So it's just better off sometimes to stay silent.
01:29:55.000But, in your case, what they did was they gave them what they wanted, which they could take your gun, they could put you on desk duty, all this bullshit when you don't answer the questions.
01:30:04.000But that's a price I'm willing to pay because I don't want somebody else to have to feel like they need to do it.
01:30:48.000So, they can't really do too much, so the only thing they could do is like, okay, you don't want to answer questions on the compelled interview, alright, typically what we have to do is now we have to take your gun, put you on restricted duty, and then like, kind of wait on the outcome of the case.
01:30:59.000It's a violable offense, it's a violable offense, but it's funny that, and I state apolitical, but it's funny that the day after the election, people started being much nicer to me, and now no one wants to bring the hammer of justice because they know, due to the fact that I was in James O'Keefe's movie, and he was at Mar-a-Lago the night that Trump won the election, I'm not that far removed from the guy that's running the show.
01:31:35.000I don't agree with everything you have to say, and I'll tell you straight to your face, but you've been nothing but respectful to me, you've brought me on your show, you've helped me, and as I tell you, I don't expect anything.
01:31:42.000I just wanted a platform to speak, and you took it much further than that, and you gave me money.
01:31:46.000So if anybody ever comes at you, it bothers me, because I'm not here to kiss your ass, I really don't care one way or the other, but I tell the truth.
01:31:52.000If there's nothing else, I tell the truth, and you've been good to me, dude.
01:31:55.000No, I knew that as soon as you came on the show that OPR was going to open a case, bro.
01:31:58.000So I was like, dude, you know, me and you talked about it offline, you know, I was, you know, I appreciate you giving me that love, but I was like, dude, I can't let you walk out of the studio without helping you out.
01:32:06.000So, you know, I think me getting you a lawyer or helping you get one was the most... Dude, I used to be on the job too.
01:32:12.000So like, that's the first thing I was like, nah, fuck that.
01:32:33.000We all have an interest in this country succeeding.
01:32:37.000And when you have 500,000 kids missing, and they're being raped, and we have alien criminals putting our women on fire, raping them and killing them, my job becomes second to that.
01:32:48.000And maybe that's a rare stance nowadays.
01:32:51.000Maybe guys just want to pay for their family.
01:32:53.000I'll go beg, borrow, and steal before I let that continue on without me standing up and saying something.
01:32:57.000I don't want to be dramatic, but we've gone to this point because men have become cowardly.
01:33:03.000They've kept their mouths shut because their wives have told them, babe, don't say anything.
01:33:09.000If you consider yourself a child of God, and I'm not pushing Jesus How are you gonna propagate and allow rapes and murders of our citizens by people that were just giving everything to come in here?
01:33:23.000You shouldn't be able to look yourself in the mirror.
01:33:28.000And I would love somebody to debate me on that, because there's a lot of guys that are like, oh, you should have said something different than that, or you're a grifter.
01:33:42.000I mean, I remember before I brought you on the show, I warned you.
01:33:44.000I was like, hey man, are you sure you want to do this?
01:33:45.000Because I knew that this was going to go to the JIC immediately, and they were going to give you this bureaucratic bullshit and tell you all, you know, you can't do that, all this other shit, and take your gun away and stuff.
01:33:59.000You know, optics on you and Trump being in office, if they fired you, it would look really fucking bad, bro.
01:34:04.000And I'll tell you this, if they fire you, bro, I am going to be one of your biggest advocates and we'll make sure that we make them look stupid for doing that if they fire you.
01:34:12.000Because you're just nothing more than a whistleblower, bro.
01:34:31.000"Yeah, we grew up, my father was a cab driver, my mother's handicapped, we didn't have nothing but ourselves.
01:34:34.000They both died of drugs." When my brothers got taken from me, I started to live for a greater purpose.
01:34:39.000So when you're living for something more than yourself, that's why you speak out.
01:34:44.000And I really, I wanna, 'cause a lot of government employees listen to you, and a lot of government employees have reached out to me behind the scenes and said, "Hey, dude, I could never have done that, but good on you." Guys, if you tell the truth, regardless of consequence, you will always be okay.
01:35:21.000I just want to say that I'm sorry about your situation, but I'm glad that you're so brave and I wish more people like you were in the government.
01:35:56.000And I also wanted to add with the whole debacle that we're having here on Twitter that People like Elon, Vivek, and all the people on that side don't understand that people are not fungible.
01:36:10.000You can't just replace people and expect to get the same results.
01:36:16.000People from different countries have different cultures.
01:36:21.000And the people who created the United States, you can't just replace Europeans and expect to get the same results.
01:36:31.000And it seems that people like Ilon, people like Vivek, etc.
01:38:40.000Y'all are getting some free content right here.
01:38:42.000You guys are getting an in-depth look at immigration.
01:38:43.000You guys probably aren't going to get this level of detail anywhere else on the fucking internet because you got two guys, well, he just left.
01:38:50.000With two guys that actually are on the front lines that dealt with this shit.
01:39:18.000I was Air and Marine Operations, flew helicopters, worked as a congressional liaison in the Senate for like the last four years, their headquarters in D.C., and everything he's talking about, it's just dead on, right on.
01:39:36.000I would tell anyone that's like working for the government now, if you're thinking about doing what he did, make sure you have all your ducks in a row first.
01:39:44.000You gotta go up your chain of command.
01:39:47.000But, like, quickly right after that, do what he did.
01:39:49.000You know, you have to research it, make sure you go to OIG or your congressman, and make sure you get that whistleblower status.
01:39:57.000Yeah, they did put him on RoboGunSquad, because he didn't want to answer the OPR questions.
01:40:45.000They use it as a stepping stone to get into HSI or the FBI or one of these investigative agencies.
01:40:50.000So yeah, it's really hard for the border patrol.
01:40:51.000I mean, I remember there was a time where like 80 to 90% of their guys were flunking out just on a polygraph.
01:40:56.000They had to tune it down a little bit because they had major corruption in early 2010s.
01:41:01.000I think they had a mass hiring in the early 2000s.
01:41:05.000Then a lot of those guys ended up doing some bullshit in 2010.
01:41:08.000So they went ahead and brought the standards up.
01:41:11.000Dude, I helped with that polygraph standardization because we saw that it was really difficult to meet the threshold of people that we wanted to hire.
01:41:23.000So yeah, we had to lower that and we had polygraphers that were absolutely brutal.
01:41:29.000Honestly dude, polygraphs are fucking bullshit too.
01:41:35.000They're not based on telling the truth or not.
01:41:51.000You know, you would not believe some of the questions that these people answered and they They tried to be truthful, but they're not people you want working for your agency.
01:42:20.000That's why I think if they fired Zach, he could probably sue and get some back pay, man, because he does have a protected status as a whistleblower, but we know these federal agencies fire people all the time.
01:42:35.000I mean, they've fired FBI agents for testifying and whistleblowing, so we'll see what happens, man.
01:42:40.000Yeah, I'll pray for him, because if he does get fired, he will definitely, in this administration, get his job back, if he wants it.
01:42:53.000I hope, like, him being on social media puts pressure on them to not... I mean, I don't know how Border Patrol... Who's the deciding official on Border Patrol?
01:43:13.000Let me explain to the audience because we're speaking government lingo here and I already know that a lot of people here might be lost.
01:43:18.000So, okay, guys, anytime there's a disciplinary act on you, right, and you work for the government, whether you're FBI, DEA, any of these federal agencies, right, there's going to be OPR or OIG that conducts an investigation, right?
01:43:30.000If it's not criminal and it's administrative, let's say you did some dumb shit, right, on your off time.
01:43:35.000OPR or OIG is going to do their investigation.
01:43:37.000Most of the time it's going to be OPR because OPR is non-criminal, right?
01:43:39.000They're going to deal with administrative shit.
01:43:41.000Let's say you get into an altercation at a bar and you fight somebody and punch them or some shit, right?
01:43:47.000You get into this altercation, OPR does their investigation, and they turn their findings over to somebody called the deciding official.
01:43:54.000And this deciding official, typically, if you work for the FBI, it's going to be the special agent in charge.
01:43:59.000If you work for Homeland Security, it's going to be the special agent in charge.
01:44:02.000If you work for Border Patrol, I don't know if it's going to be the station chief, or if it's going to be the Border Patrol agent in charge of the station.
01:44:11.000I'm going to turn it over to Remo to answer that.
01:44:13.000But the deciding official, guys, long story short, is the person that decides whether you get fired or not, or you get some type of disciplinary action.
01:44:20.000So, Remo, who would even make the decision on that?
01:44:22.000So I can only talk to Customs and Border Protection, and I'll say that we have Office of Field Operations, Air and Marine Operations, and Border Patrol.
01:44:30.000And on the Disciplinary Review Board, we get these cases, the administrative cases, and we review them, we look at them, we compare them to the table of offenses.
01:44:40.000Like there's a whole list of things that if you do it wrong, there's a recommended discipline for you.
01:45:13.000So guys, again, speaking of that jargon, so there's Customs and Border Protection, right, Chad?
01:45:17.000And you have two sections of them, two main components.
01:45:20.000Well, there's really three, but the two big ones are Office of Field Operations, so think of them as the blue uniforms at the airports, right?
01:45:27.000And at the bridge when you try to come to the United States, they're at all valid ports of entry.
01:45:30.000Then, you have Office of Border Patrol, green uniforms.
01:45:33.000They're the ones that are on the southwest border, northwest border.
01:45:36.000If you try to come in illegally, they're the ones that are going to stop you.
01:45:38.000So, the way I explain it to people is, if they're in blue uniform, you're coming in illegally, right?
01:45:47.000If you see a green uniform, a lot of times you're coming in illegally and they're catching you on the Southwest border, somewhere on the Northwest border.
01:46:26.000There's probably going to be a port director that oversees all the CBP officers at that port.
01:46:31.000Hell, somewhere that big might have two or three port directors.
01:46:34.000So, they're the top guys at that location, and they'll probably be the local deciding officials.
01:46:38.000So, it seems like there's a board, they give a recommended disciplinary action, and then the port director and or the patrol agent in charge makes a final decision.
01:46:45.000But that's just so you guys understand.
01:46:53.000You were exactly right and you do really well at explaining it.
01:46:57.000I just wanted to hop on and if Zach is off, I can be your backup as far as there's any questions.
01:47:04.000Yeah, what I was going to ask you, if you could just finish your, because you were saying the board, you were saying that the board makes the decision.
01:47:12.000So is this a board of like border patrol agents and customs and border protection guys?
01:47:25.000I don't even know, like OPR will do an investigation and then they'll drop their paperwork and then we look at it.
01:47:32.000And there'll be like three people, usually from different agencies.
01:47:36.000So I'll sit there with a border patrol guy and an OFO person and we'll review the cases.
01:47:42.000And then we talk to each other, we're like, all right, I recommend, you know, 30 days off.
01:47:47.000And then they, you know, argue whether or not they want to fire them or do 30 days as well.
01:47:51.000And sometimes it's a land bunk and we all agree on it.
01:47:54.000And sometimes, and I can't even believe this, but I've seen times where a supervisor who's over somebody has sexual relations at work at a government facility, borrows a lot of money from that person, doesn't pay him back, and gets caught.
01:48:15.000And people are sitting there, the two other people I was arguing with on the Discipline Review Board, I'm like, that's a firing fence in my book.
01:48:24.000And they were arguing that it was not.
01:48:26.000And it ended up being two against one.
01:48:30.000And so it went back to like the port director as, you know, 30 days off, no pay.
01:48:36.000So, so you guys would, so, so OPR does their invest, so that's weird that OF, so okay, so CBP does it completely differently.
01:48:43.000So, so OPR does their investigation, the special agents do their own independent investigation, they give you guys their findings, you guys take the findings, look at the code of conduct, see where it falls, you guys kind of try to come to a middle ground of what you suggest, you guys as a panel send that suggestion to either the port director or the patrol agent in charge, depending on whether they're CBP or border patrol, and then That port director and or patrol agent in charge is the deciding official then?
01:49:09.000Now, we're not just willy nilly trying to figure out what we're going to do with these people.
01:49:14.000If we have hardcore questions that we're trying to answer, there are labor attorneys around us that we can reach out to and help us answer questions.
01:49:25.000Gotcha, because you guys don't want to give a suggestion that might be too harsh and then that person can come back and sue and it creates problems.
01:50:08.000So I remember, remember that Facebook problem where everyone had, they were on a private Facebook page and this group of attorneys in Philadelphia or whatever it was somehow got involved with that or got in that and started basically taking screenshots Of what Border Patrol agents were saying about, like, AOC and whoever else.
01:51:55.000That's like the... Like, if all else fails, they will say, Conduct unbecoming.
01:52:00.000You know, even though this is all false allegations, it's coming, it'll be coming, because we have to fucking open a case on your ass on this shit.
01:52:31.000It's good in the sense where they can't jam him up on that, like, off of what he says, so they're not going to get him for lack of candor, because that's the one that will fuck you up every time if you lie.
01:52:39.000I tell people every single time, if you're in an internal investigation, OPR calls you in, OIG calls you in, etc.
01:52:45.000First thing you ask, well, they're going to tell you this too.
01:52:47.000They're going to tell you if it's administrative or criminal.
01:52:49.000If it's administrative, you got to answer the questions.
01:54:23.000I find out that the bouncers of this stupid ass club claimed that I had been, I had went inside the club and I got in a fight with the stripper.
01:55:36.000Obviously they went and interviewed these bouncers, and they said this shit, but then they reviewed the video camera.
01:55:40.000And they saw that IND never went inside.
01:55:43.000And it's funny, too, because they had the camera, and when I was walking by the club, since I hate this fucking place, I saw the CCTV camera when I was walking by, and I gave it like a big middle finger like this, right?
01:55:56.000And you could see, because I had like a really bright Hawaiian shirt on.
01:56:01.000And me and my buddy, right, and I was like hardcore whitening my teeth back then.
01:56:05.000I still whiten them now, but you could see the Hawaiian shirt and just my teeth, and you could see a middle finger like this, right, up at the camera.
01:57:16.000But, I tell you guys this funny story to let you guys know, though I did nothing wrong, and it was all lies perpetrated by that club, as found by OPR when they did their investigation, they saw I never went in there.
01:57:29.000You're saving grace here was you went to your supervisor.
01:57:30.000and when they open up a case, you have to come in and do the interview and it fucking sucks.
01:57:33.000Then they did their findings and they sent it to my assistant special agent in charge and she cleared me.
01:57:47.000But it was a pain in the ass because I had to sit in limbo for like seven months.
01:57:51.000Your saving grace there was you went to your supervisor.
01:57:55.000Well, that's the way it is in the Border Patrol.
01:57:57.000If you don't go to your supervisor after you have an interaction with the cops and they see your badge and creds, then you could get hung up later.
01:58:50.000So I don't blame them because they have to do it, but it's something that sucks and I hope nothing happens to Zach because I've been through that rigmarole, man.
02:00:34.000For them, because they work shifts, so AUO for them is way better.
02:00:37.000Because for those that are wondering, we're really getting in weeds here, but I'll bring it back to immigration here in a second.
02:00:42.000For those that are wondering, you want to be a special agent with FBI, DEA, any of these agencies, guys, they're going to give you something called Law Enforcement Availability Pay LEAP, which is basically 25% added on to your salary.
02:00:51.000So let's say you make $50,000, you're going to get an extra $12.5K added.
02:00:55.000Whether you work 50 hours like you're supposed to, to get the leap, or 100 hours, you're gonna get paid that same amount every single time.
02:01:02.000It's very difficult to get overtime as a 1811 and or a special agent unless you're working a wiretap or you're doing some other crazy shit.
02:01:10.000But 9 out of 10 times it's very difficult to get overtime.
02:01:12.000The only time I've seen 1811s get overtime is you have to be Secret Service or Diplomatic Security Service, where you're doing a lot of protection detail, which works a lot of hours.
02:01:23.000That's the only time I've ever seen people get LEAP.
02:01:28.000But A.U.O., when you're working shifts like Border Patrol and you get night differential and all this other stuff, yeah, I wouldn't want LEAP either because LEAP, it's automatic every time.
02:01:37.000And if you work weekends, nighttime, or overtime, or sorry, or holiday, you don't get none of that pay when you're on LEAP.
02:01:46.000But I can see why Aaron Marie would want it.
02:03:10.000about the censorship of the left during covid but actually i would say this is much worse because during covid of course we disagreed with their position it was mental but the thing is in their mind they thought they're saving lives they thought literally this body is being piled up in italy and various countries they have their excuses and in their mind they've explained that they were saving lives
02:03:38.000This is literally a disagreement on one political issue which is the H1B visas and because of that there's been this huge purge.
02:03:50.000The second point I want to make is that I've been talking about the Indian takeover of The UK and the US for a very long time and all I've got to say is VINDICATED because whenever these people were like Muslims are taking over I was like bruvs what are you talking about and I always used to give the UK as an example where in 10 years
02:04:16.000The Muslim population in the UK had only increased 1% and then they used to always show the stats that in five years there'd been a million Indians.
02:04:25.000Remember, for you guys a million might sound like not that big number but we've only got a population of like 60 million, an adult population of like 40 million.
02:04:33.000A million Indians had come in the last five years and this was when the Indian Prime Minister Rishi Sunak had been placed in power, unelected, when Swela Braverman and Kriti Patel were put in charge of the Home Office.
02:04:47.000Home Office is basically the people who decide our immigration rules.
02:04:52.000It's probably the easiest way of saying it.
02:04:55.000And so you saw this kind of Indian control in the UK bringing their people in.
02:05:00.000And then I started seeing it happening in the US.
02:05:02.000So when Vivek Ramaswamy, when we saw Hailey Nirmaranda, Hailey, when we saw Tulsi Gabbard who's a Hindu, Akash Patel and there'll be a few others that I slip in my mind right now and I was like yeah the Indian takeover was happening and I spoke to Vivek when he came on Mario Space and I literally cornered him because at that time he was like We should have no trades with China.
02:05:30.000But then, me being me, I did my research.
02:05:32.000I was like, Vivek, you literally got a company in China, and you're making money off it.
02:05:47.000He also, in the same interview, was claiming that he wanted better relations with India.
02:05:52.000He wanted us to change our military position, the US military position.
02:05:55.000for India and so we already knew this was a very pro-Indian government that was going to happen and also when I looked at the US immigration stats and I'm not talking about the illegal immigration but the legal immigration again just like the UK top three is India and China and remember these are foreign assets because these guys are so
02:06:19.000Superpowers who want to rival the United States want to rival the UK and so when you allow their agents into the country, you're basically It's impacting your sovereignty.
02:06:29.000And so what you've seen now is and remember Anyone who's ever seen any sci-fi movie.
02:06:37.000Anyone who's seen or read any kind of science fiction book.
02:06:42.000I did indeed read many science fiction books.
02:06:45.000But in all of them, it was always the corporations.
02:06:49.000The tech people who basically took over the control of the world and then led it to darkness.
02:06:56.000And what you've seen is, with Trump, he sold out quite clearly to the tech guys to be elected.
02:07:03.000He sold out to Peter Thiel, hence why JD Vance was put in position.
02:07:08.000He sold out to the Indians so that he could win.
02:07:11.000And he sold out to the Zionists so he could win.
02:07:13.000And so when you see all of that come together, And basically Trump being elected, or in my view, imposed on the public because I don't believe any election anywhere is real.
02:07:25.000So they decide who's going to be the Prime Minister and President.
02:07:28.000They decide who's going to be in those positions.
02:07:30.000And so that's the reason why Trump got in position.
02:07:32.000So that's the reality of the situation.
02:07:35.000Like, look, I stand with the people who are against this and have realized that this takeover of America is happening and that actually and the worst thing about it is like literal full-on racism against uh like white American Christians that was next level crazy and coming from people who are part of the MAGA party allegedly it was crazy yeah no i and oh yeah no i had to Sorry, I had to fix my sound.
02:08:03.000My mic was making static, but I fixed it.
02:08:05.000No, I mean, it's crazy, bro, that they deleted these Graper accounts, because actually, I follow some of these accounts, you know, because they, you know, do a lot of good clips and stuff like that, so that's crazy that they just randomly purged all of them, and then Laurel Loomer, You know because she was the main person that kind of brought this stuff to light and had this very tough discussion on h-1b visas She lost her badge and her verification badge and and the conservative Inc that would that sponsored it So I was like what what the hell is going on here, man?
02:08:33.000So it's very scary that speaking out against this leads to some level of censorship because whether you're demonetized and she had her subscriptions turned off so Losing your badge, getting demonetized, all this stuff on X of all places where it's supposed to be free speech.
02:08:48.000I mean, this is a very scary precedent, man.
02:08:51.000And then you get these Grayper accounts getting suspended out of nowhere.
02:09:58.000I think if you're going to have freedom of speech, right, it only matters if they have the same freedom of reach.
02:10:04.000Why not let them have the reach and let the marketplace decide?
02:10:07.000Because if you have a bad idea, the people are going to tell you it's a bad idea.
02:10:11.000I mean, look at this whole immigration thing.
02:10:13.000Vivek and Elon are getting a lot of blowback on it because people don't want it.
02:10:17.000It's not that people have an issue with Indians.
02:10:19.000It's people don't want Foreigners coming to the United States taking jobs and also importing their culture a lot of the times these people don't want to assimilate So, you know, I think like if India wanted to have a sovereignty and say look we don't want no Americans over here, right?
02:10:35.000We want India for Indians I wouldn't get angry at them.
02:10:38.000I would tell them, you guys have absolutely every right to be nationalists, protect your sovereignty, and you guys can dictate how much immigration you guys want.
02:10:46.000And if we don't get allowed into your country, tough on us.
02:10:54.000We need to have that same level of nationalism in the United States, right?
02:10:58.000Where it's like, we prioritize American interests first, and If that means that you have to pay a little bit more to an American citizen, well, guess what?
02:11:05.000You're investing back in a country versus bringing foreigners in here that a lot of the times don't assimilate.
02:11:10.000And then on top of that, let's be honest, they send money back to their home country.
02:11:13.000They petition to bring their people over here.
02:11:15.000It doesn't really help the country as much as people think it does.
02:11:17.000So I think it's very disturbing to be censoring people, especially on X, which is supposed to be Freedom of speech, right?
02:11:28.000I also think that if you're going to have freedom of speech, you need to couple that with freedom of reach because otherwise that freedom of speech means nothing.
02:11:34.000Like if I went to Saudi Arabia, for example, right?
02:11:36.000And I said certain things about the king in charge.
02:11:40.000Well, they'd kidnap me and probably Khashoggi, my ass, right?
02:11:44.000You can't criticize the government, right?
02:11:46.000Technically, I have the freedom of speech to say what I want to say over there, but I have to deal with certain consequences for saying it.
02:11:51.000Well, that's not freedom of speech, even though technically, I do have it.
02:11:55.000So it's the same situation on social media and or on these platforms that claim that they have freedom of speech.
02:12:00.000If you're going to go ahead and say, we're a free speech platform and we believe in free speech, that freedom of speech cannot be impeded through things like demonetization, losing subscribers, losing verifications, losing reach, losing followers, because these are all surreptitious ways to undermine freedom of speech.
02:12:19.000Obviously the most overt way is to just ban you, but they'll do other things where they'll demonetize you, whatever, and that's almost kind of worse because what'll happen is when they do this to you, right, they demonetize you, take your verification badge, hurt your reach or whatever, that has a chilling effect and it scares everyone else from exercising their freedom of speech.
02:12:37.000So actually keeping you on a platform and crippling you It's more detrimental than outright banning you because they're kind of like fucking with you and saying, oh yeah, you got freedom of speech, but we're going to limit your reach and we're going to take your money from you.
02:12:50.000So that has everyone else scared because if you're banned, they forget about you.
02:12:55.000But if you're still on the platform and you're significantly hindered, people always look at you as kind of like, oh shit, he got fucked up.
02:13:14.000Always try to keep the language nice and PG, PG-13 when I get really wild, Myron.
02:13:19.000But, I mean, you stole the words right out of my mouth when you said that there's a cultural piece of this equation.
02:13:28.000What's so bizarre about it is the H-1B work visas.
02:13:31.000Look, we can talk about the economic consequences of that, of supply and demand and the labor force, of how that suppresses wages of Americans, etc.
02:13:38.000But what they've basically done is Elon and Vivek have come out, they've stated their position, and they've more or less said anyone that opposes this, regardless of the reason, whether it's economic or whether it's a desire to just have a culturally homogeneous population with some kind of cohesion, and not the endless influx, not just of a couple people here and there, but of tens of millions of people.
02:14:02.000That if you don't agree with that, then we're just going to cut out your tongue and you can't be part of the quote-unquote marketplace of ideas.
02:14:11.000I mean, it really is wild because it's essentially saying not only that you don't get the reach that you might deserve or the monetization that you certainly deserve, Byron, and you've had stripped from you merely from talking about, let's call them third rail items.
02:14:25.000But that you don't even have the right to claim that your society has any merit for a border, right?
02:14:32.000You have to become a borderless economic zone that is basically lorded over by global tyrants that seemingly have an absolute indifference to the cohesion of the lives of the populace that live within it.
02:14:45.000And again, if you stand in opposition to it, that you're just no longer allowed in the public discourse.
02:14:50.000And so it's unbelievably Orwellian times.
02:14:54.000I use that, I mean everyone in here in your audience that has not read Orwell's 1984 should absolutely do it because we're seeing this type of restriction of not only the public discourse but also of the mind because to your point Myron, the goal here is not just to turn off the conversation for the time being, it's to normalize that Elon and his cronies get to decide what you are and aren't allowed to discuss.
02:15:19.000With the knowledge that if they do this one, two, three times, people not only will stop talking about these things publicly, but they'll presumably get you to a point where you don't even think about talking about them because you know that the danger associated and the impact it'll have if you go against them.
02:15:38.000And for the accounts that are just getting mass suspended, I feel like, Myron, I'm not sure about you, but I feel like this is the proverbial line in the sand.
02:15:45.000Where people basically have to say en masse, Elon if this is how you're going to rig the game, we're no longer going to participate in your system at all.
02:15:53.000We're going to walk away and you can lord over a machine that has no audience to participate in it.
02:15:59.000Yeah, you know, and I will say this, this H1B debate really exposed a lot of people, right?
02:16:08.000So for those that are, because I'm on YouTube and Rumble as well, just so the audience understands, because a lot of them aren't necessarily on X, so let me explain just to my guys that are watching this right now.
02:16:16.000Guys, X is, I would say, dominated by conservatives to a degree.
02:16:22.000On the conservative side, right, and I will give X credit as well as Rumble for being instrumental in getting Trump back in the White House, right?
02:16:30.000And on X, there's a bunch of big I'll say conservative creators, right?
02:16:36.000And what ended up happening with this H1B debacle is that it separated people on the right, quite distinctly too.
02:17:06.000But Laura Loomer, a lot of people that were like, hey look, these tech bros are coming in and infiltrating the MAGA movement for their own bottom line.
02:17:16.000And this H-1B visa is where we're drawing the line in the sand.
02:17:20.000And I can see why she's grabs at that.
02:17:22.000I mean, she did a whole documentary, which I think everyone should go see, where she went down to the Darien Gap and exposed the immigration problem.
02:17:27.000And I told you guys about the immigration problem from my former professional experience.
02:17:31.000Zach came in here and told you guys about the immigration problem.
02:17:35.000And I think one of the things that we don't need right now is more mass immigration and the millions, because this H-1B visa program, guys, is huge.
02:17:43.000We're not talking about bringing in 10, 20,000.
02:17:45.000We're talking about bringing in 10, 20 million.
02:17:52.000So I think what this whole backlash and this fight with the H-1B visas, it's drawn two different camps on the right, which is you got the people like Ian Chong and Penny2x and all these other like, you know, Elon cocksuckers that will, you know, they can't, Elon could do no wrong to them.
02:18:32.000And I think the fact that a lot of people are being silenced for voicing that dissent is a problem, but then also it exposed a lot of the people that were used to be anti-immigration, like in Alex Jones, etc., and they're kind of like flipping now, which, you know, is disappointing to see.
02:18:48.000But, you know, this debacle, this H-1B debacle, this immigration debacle, really exposed a lot of people on the right for being kind of shills on what they stand on.
02:18:59.000Yo, Suleiman, for you, real quick, I want to ask you this.
02:19:02.000You guys have mass immigration in the UK.
02:19:04.000Every time I go to the UK, I feel like I'm going to get stabbed and robbed.
02:19:26.000Like, even Ali Jones is a globalist, and then he literally wants the global infusion of people into the united states and let's be clear on this like there's a reason why myron and myself live in the west like we live in the west because of its ethics its positions the culture whatever it may be if you wanted to live in india we would have moved to india
02:19:52.000and that's what's basically happening that you're basically seeing a mass infusion of a different ideology um into a different society and therefore you've got this problem where it doesn't basically correlate and alex jones has been exposed he is a basically a zionist jew people are saying to me like oh he's not a jew i literally remember him saying about his grandparents being in the holocaust uh so he is a zionist jew and literally perpetuates the idea
02:20:17.000and literally if you look at it the only religion because he's always like i'm talking about israel but he won't literally talk about any religion except islam and attack islam So that tells you what this Mr. Globalist is really all about.
02:20:30.000The second point in terms of what you said, yeah, I mean the UK, we have major problems.
02:20:36.000Some of it is because of actually liberalism.
02:20:39.000I don't think it's all because of mass immigration because If you look at UK, other than London, it is largely white.
02:20:50.000But in the UK, London is slightly different.
02:20:51.000London, I believe the percentage is about, it's a lot higher.
02:20:54.000Actually, white is the minority, if I remember right, in London.
02:20:58.000But in other areas, the more north you get, that data doesn't completely ring true in terms of the numbers.
02:21:07.000But UK, the major issue in my view, maybe immigration may be a factor, but the main factor is actually liberalism.
02:22:23.000Yeah, I mean, look, the data does suggest that, obviously, just like the US disproportionately, if you look at it, black people do commit most of the crime.
02:22:31.000But obviously, you know my position on that.
02:22:33.000I think it's more got to do with poverty as opposed to race.
02:22:36.000But I know people do disagree with me on that, I think.
02:22:39.000A lot of them are in poor areas and then obviously it's a lot more difficult.
02:22:44.000But yeah, that does happen, obviously.
02:22:45.000It is from that perspective in terms of the data.
02:22:49.000But obviously, I think poverty has a factor.
02:22:51.000Do you guys have a big Indian population in the UK?
02:22:55.000And do you guys have something similar to our H-1B visa equivalent to bring them over for tech jobs?
02:23:32.000So Indians literally are coming in their droves and their untold secret is this because what these like parties like reform and all these do is they talk about you know people coming on the rubber dinghies and coming to the UK Yo, you guys are cooked, Suleiman.
02:23:49.000And for those that are wondering, he's not Indian, guys.
02:24:19.000But coming back to it, so you basically got that huge migration.
02:24:23.000Now, an untold secret is that a lot of the illegal immigration that happens is actually from Indians as well.
02:24:32.000Because what will happen is, they won't come through the rubber dinghy, they won't come through the channel, but they'll come through a flight and they'll let them through.
02:24:38.000So if you go to any of these areas that are largely populated with Indians, you've got so many illegal Indians.
02:24:44.000And what they do is they use, you know, what you guys know about this, the anchor baby method, where they'll basically have a child and then make sure that they get a visa.
02:25:14.000So like this whole thing is full on takeover.
02:25:18.000And like, you're gonna experience it because when you look at the US stats, legal immigration is actually Mexico, India, and China as well in the US.
02:25:28.000I didn't know that you guys had that many of them and that a majority of the illegal aliens that come in that are Indian are actually illegal.
02:25:36.000Do you guys have a similar thing to the United States?
02:25:37.000If you're born on British land, you're automatically British by birthright?
02:25:53.000Okay, so it's even easier than, because United States you got a petition, it's a little bit hard, like you can have an anchor baby but like it's not that easy.
02:25:59.000So in the UK it's like automatically given almost.
02:26:02.000Like, in a sense, you have to go through the application procedure, of course, but yeah, you will be given it as long as you've got an anchor baby.
02:26:12.000I'm also based in the UK and there was a bilateral agreement between India and the UK that came in May 2021, which allowed plenty of students to come over.
02:26:26.000So you'd get this kind of anchor baby stuff that would happen, as mentioned by Sully, and then You'd also get, I mean, a lot of these guys are coming in on student visas.
02:26:37.000So, we can go over to India if we want, but, you know, who the hell from the UK wants to go over to India?
02:26:43.000No offense, but who actually wants to go across and go, you know, study in India?
02:26:50.000Just some crazy-ass whack chicks that want to go over there and find themselves.
02:26:53.000But, you know, it's crazy to me, like, the numbers and the figures, like, Indians are taking over the UK.
02:27:01.000and are coming in anchor babies or they're just coming in on the student visas and then what they're tending to do as well they'll do like a four-year degree it could be some crap ass degree they're doing illegal jobs on the side and then they're just staying there they can kind of claim citizenship from there as well and then just bringing loads of people over but most of them end up going on benefits as well on universal credit and get access to universal credit as well once they become a citizen
02:27:30.000So, it's either by having a kid or they'll come in through the student visa route.
02:27:35.000And just on that, I posted this yesterday because I was looking at the data.
02:27:40.000In the UK, I believe the change happened in 2022.
02:27:46.000The most foreign pregnancies, so foreign meaning obviously not white, the most foreign pregnancies are from Indians in the UK, both men and women.
02:28:10.000And honestly, you know, this is kind of why I'm anti-mass immigration, because I look at the United Kingdom, I look at Australia, I look at Canada, and I think you guys are further ahead in the social decay than we are.
02:28:23.000And I do attribute a good amount of that to the mass immigration that you guys have.
02:28:28.000You know, the United Kingdom and Canada, especially Canada, Have some of the lax immigration laws for especially for refugees and you know, it's it's I look at the UK man I'm just like fuck you guys are you guys used to be the strongest nation in the world the great British pound used to be the Reserve currency and I just look at a country and I look at it like holy shit like you guys are falling from grace and I and I look at Canada next door and And I'm like, the dollar is worth nothing.
02:29:00.000The whole trucker thing that they did.
02:29:02.000And I just see that like this all, you know, what is a common denominator in a lot of these first world English speaking countries with their decay?
02:29:10.000It's mass immigration, you know, because it's one thing to take the best and the brightest.
02:29:13.000It's another thing to just take everybody.
02:29:15.000And I think a lot of these countries are, you know, having this liberal mindset.
02:29:22.000How do you evidence that someone's the best and brightest?
02:29:25.000Because you really think that someone who's becoming a doctor in India or Pakistan is on the same level as a doctor in the UK?
02:29:35.000It's so difficult to become a doctor in the UK.
02:29:37.000You basically need straight A's to become a doctor in the UK.
02:29:42.000it's pakistan and india you just need to basically pay someone and you got a certificate and a lot of them yeah and a lot of them coming in and more nursing jobs as well i've seen this a lot right so that where we've had like a um a lot of people not wanting to go into those kind of nursing jobs or care worker jobs a lot of them are coming in that route uh under kind of medical reasons as well um and you know it's funny that elon has been banning a few of these accounts you had mentioned it a little bit earlier sally
02:30:12.000but like um you know he was talking about two-tier care and he was talking about you know free speech in the uk is gone and you know i can talk about how bad it is in the uk but But now we're seeing that when you talk about a certain ethnic group or talk about the things that have been going on with the visa, with Musk and Rameshwari's policies in the US, these camps get suspended.
02:30:38.000Hold on, we thought this was going to be a free speech platform.
02:30:54.000Yeah, just a question to anybody if they know, because John Miller, who's pretty cool with the gripers, Posted a tweet where Elon is having a conversation with someone and the account's suspended.
02:31:05.000Does anybody know, have the original version of that conversation?
02:31:07.000Because somebody posted something and then Elon replies, that is a lie.
02:31:13.000And then they posted something and then Elon wrote, where did you find this lie?
02:31:18.000Then they posted something and then he wrote liar.
02:31:20.000Now that account has been eradicated from Twitter.
02:31:23.000I'm interested in seeing what that conversation was and why he was, well obviously he got suspended it seems because of his no great interaction with Elon and Elon was probably not happy.
02:31:33.000I do want to know what happened in that conversation, but that is flipping crazy.
02:31:37.000If it's the account I'm thinking of, it was a 300 follower account that ratioed Elon.
02:31:43.000If it's what I'm thinking of, it was an account where he said something about, hey, we need H1Bs to Extraordinary Ability, and then this guy said, no, that's not true, because what ends up happening is I know Americans, white Caucasian Americans that can't get a job because of these H-1B visa tech guys from India.
02:32:01.000That's what I think it was, and the guy at Ray showed Elon, and then that account is gone.
02:32:08.000Yeah, if it's the post, and I think it is because the account was one of the first that went down in this whole H1B debacle, but the guy basically wrote about how his son, who was a graduate from a very esteemed program, had spent all this money, had done basically all the things right, had a super polished resume, was watching as
02:32:30.000Uh, his peers, in particular those that were foreign students that were part of a study abroad program, were getting all the jobs that he was applying for.
02:32:39.000And he basically wrote about how his son became so disenfranchised that he took a really low-paying job, was kind of stuck in his home, was unable to basically quote-unquote launch and build himself.
02:32:51.000And basically watched as this son went from the brilliant shining star to, you know, basically completely demoralized as a result of a system that would not even give him a chance to interview.
02:33:02.000And, I mean, you see these stories all across the modern economy where, you know, we just saw the thing with James O'Keefe and maybe he's part of the machine, I don't know, but he had that undercover interview with the Disney executive who basically said, you know, all of our C-suite belongs to, let's just call them that group, Myron.
02:33:20.000And that white men need not apply and and and that was that was what the guy said on camera like any applications that come in for You know a traditionally white male in the United States that they have zero chance of even getting an interview And so I I think this guy's story really resonated with a lot of people that are realizing this but unfortunately because of pride and ego don't feel comfortable sharing those stories online, but this is
02:33:44.000This is hitting a nerve and your average, let's not even take race into it, let's just say your average American that's looking at this H-1B program where folks I can tell you the individuals who are hired by these programs they come in they oftentimes have corporate housing they oftentimes won't work eight
02:34:01.000Nine hours a day they will work 10 12 14 hour shifts knowing that if they don't they're gonna get fired They're gonna have to go back to their country that they don't want to be in so these individuals work Essentially massive amounts of overtime while being more or less salaried employees.
02:34:16.000They're not getting overtime They're working as slaves And when you have that forced into the equation and you add in, especially with the influx of illegal migrants who are, of course, absorbing at the very lower end of the spectrum, the very low paying jobs, this is wage suppression.
02:34:33.000This is why your average 20, 30 year old American is still living with their parents, unable to buy even a home.
02:34:39.000Certainly unable to consider a nuclear family.
02:34:42.000It's absolutely grotesque that the overlords of tech that are essentially becoming, you know, feudal lords that just sit over top of these empires, whether it's Amazon, Uber, you know, or any of the things that Elon's involved in for that matter.
02:34:56.000And they basically absorb all of the riches at the top of the totem pole while everyone in the middle class getting suppressed down to lower class wages where they don't even make a living wage.
02:35:06.000Most of these individuals are commuting an hour, two.
02:35:08.000In some cases, in places like San Francisco, they are hyper commuters that will spend three hours going back and forth to their job where they don't even make enough money to save a penny when they're done with all their living expenses and transportation costs.
02:35:22.000So we are basically seeing the overlords of the modern society who largely and disproportionately come for that one group of people that in their own religious texts believe that they should lord over essentially 2,800 slaves per person.
02:35:35.000And they are saying, if you oppose this, we're going to call you a bigot, a racist, an anti-Semite.
02:35:40.000We're going to cut out your tongue and not let you participate in the marketplace of ideas that is X, Facebook, YouTube, Google, etc.
02:36:09.000We cannot be just lorded over by these people that basically say do as we say or else we're going to say that you're an insubordinate and don't get to participate in, you know, any kind of economic or social media landscapes.
02:36:21.000Could I add to that real quick, Myron?
02:36:24.000So all the jobs that Ian was just telling us about, and that's fantastic info, and that is exactly what's happening, but those tech bro jobs that you're bringing these Indian folks over from into the United States, all those jobs are computer jobs.
02:36:43.000They can sit in Bangalore in an office center and bang out code for 14 hours a day, and we could pay them Instead of the $80,000 in corporate housing and everything and all the benefits that we pay them to bring them over here, you could pay them $20,000 a year.
02:37:02.000We outsource our IT to a firm somewhere in Bangalore, and then they've got to adjust their hours because we're the customer when we need tech support.
02:37:14.000I don't understand why they're Taking on the extra cost to bring them into the United States to do the same thing they could do remotely.
02:37:23.000So, to me, it suggests more nefarious motive.
02:37:37.000I mean, just to add to that one, Trav, I mean, I agree with what you said, but actually what's better than that is to give those jobs to Americans.
02:37:44.000Because what happens is once you outsource those jobs to other countries, you then pay the American worker even less.
02:37:51.000And then you pay the American worker even less.
02:37:53.000And that's why from one, my own experience, remember I travel regularly to the United States, to various states.
02:37:59.000A lot of people have got like two jobs, three jobs because of these types of reasons.
02:38:03.000And then homelessness is just a top in certain areas is just completely I know it's going to be hard for the business person but then again you can put certain things in place that can help the smaller businesses as well.
02:38:18.000The other thing I wanted to make, the other point I wanted to make was that tweet, I've actually found it.
02:38:22.000The tweet's in the nest but I actually found the original version.
02:38:24.000So what happened was someone called USA Reject tweeted Elon deleted this tweet and the tweet was investing in America is actually hard, really hard.
02:38:34.000It costs money and time and effort to make a person productive.
02:38:39.000It's much easier to bring in skilled workers who might not do quite a good job, but will work for a fraction of the cost and be happy just to be here.
02:39:17.000So that's what happened in that interaction.
02:39:20.000And just one final point I wanted to make was about Laura Loomer.
02:39:23.000Like, Laura Loomer, In my view, obviously, everyone knows I disagree with that.
02:39:27.000I absolutely destroyed her many times.
02:39:30.000But she's done a good job exposing these tech guys.
02:39:32.000Now, obviously, from our perspective, we would have preferred her to wake up before the election and for this to be exposed, like many of us had done.
02:39:41.000But even though she has now, it's fine.
02:39:44.000I mean, it's not as great, but it's fine.
02:39:46.000But like that level of exposing that's happened in terms of the tech takeover, in terms of Peter Thiel controlling The Trump administration in terms of all of these guys controlling it, like literally there's nothing more occupied than what we've seen now.
02:40:03.000And so therefore it means what that shows is what people are willing to let, I mean, a large number of people are willing to let Trump win, even if it meant selling out what Trump was all about.
02:40:12.000And is it really Trump if you sell out everything that you basically stood for previously?
02:40:17.000I actually had a question that I think I'm interested to see what you guys would think about.
02:40:29.000But, um, So with all these accounts going down, do you think it would be good to get out ahead of it and try to find another place to organize?
02:40:39.000- Yeah, I started a Gab account today. - Yeah, that was-- - I changed the title as well because the latest news for those who just may have just joined us 'cause I've worked at like 800-900 now is there has been a huge purge on Twitter with a large number of accounts
02:41:17.000These are just some of the people that have been suspended.
02:41:20.000Zoomerandi, Dalton, Hope Light, Pineswap, or is it Pinesap, Tyler Russell, Hamiltoniest, Fasig-Groiper, everyone knows him, John David Erning, Remo G, Golden Groiper, and FuentesQuotesAF.
02:41:36.000All of those accounts have been suspended a huge purge and there's more as well because that counts to them on yeah we got classics gripper socks gripper have also been suspended these are and kaiser rev uh gripper these are massive gripper accounts these are like these are like lieutenants these are like main lieutenants of the america first movement of the gripper movement right uh you know these are guys that have 50 60 70 80 90 000 followers who are always clipping
02:42:05.000you know nick's monologues sharing them all over the timeline absolutely dominating the reply section of every large account That's who these guys are that just got bombed.
02:43:19.000Anybody who's been embroiled in the Israel-Palestine, Russia-Ukraine dialogue over the last one to two years, We know that this is not a free speech platform, but other people who aren't really involved in that or who haven't been paying attention haven't experienced that censorship that we all know to be present on Twitter 2.0 here.
02:43:44.000And now this is a harsh wake-up call, I think, for a lot of people who weren't aware of that.
02:43:48.000And they say, wow, this isn't the free speech platform that we thought.
02:43:53.000It isn't any different at the end of the day from Twitter 1.0.
02:43:57.000It's just that the topics that will get you banned and censored are different than Twitter 1.0.
02:44:44.000I mean, this is pretty problematic because I'm looking at this like, if you're going to delete these Graper accounts...
02:44:51.000I mean, for challenging, I don't think they really said anything that offensive.
02:44:55.000I mean, they've been more offensive on the other stuff.
02:44:57.000You know, for questioning the H1B thing, which, you know, is obviously something that he opposes, that just sets a very bad precedent, especially as it's supposed to be the free speech platform.
02:45:05.000The only thing I could think of is maybe he had some rogue engineers that did this without him knowing, and maybe these accounts are getting suspended all at the same time might bring some attention.
02:45:14.000He's like, hey, look, you need to reinstate these accounts immediately.
02:45:16.000Maybe they just did this to send a message.
02:45:18.000But, I mean, either way, it's bad out there.
02:45:24.000I forget what it was called, but they ratioed Elon massively.
02:45:28.000It was an account with 300 followers just a couple days ago, and that account got suspended.
02:45:33.000Now this dialogue that you posted in the nest from John Miller, that dialogue, that account that was having the dialogue with Elon, that account got suspended.
02:45:42.000Now you got this conservative gold check account getting dismantled.
02:45:46.000You got the Project Groyp account getting banned.
02:45:49.000This is now a pattern and with direct interactions with Elon Musk.
02:45:53.000Now these are accounts that have had direct interactions with Elon Musk repeatedly, and they're getting banned.
02:46:22.000This is, this is like turning, he's turning the platform into Facebook, where memes, shitposting, are getting you restricted and banned.
02:46:31.000Twitter has a long-storied tradition of shitposting, edgelord posting, fake tweets for the LOLs, all of this stuff, and now we got community notes on memes, we get people getting banned for funny fake tweets, and this is just ridiculous.
02:46:50.000This is Facebook 2020 level, 2020-2021 levels of censorship.
02:47:27.000I'm streaming this so you guys can listen in and you can watch the video of what's going on.
02:47:33.000But yeah, this is breaking news that they're literally purging a bunch of these Graper accounts, which I think is absolutely fucked up and ridiculous.
02:47:41.000Just off and honestly, I don't even think this is that controversial of a topic talking about you know The abuse of h-1b visas.
02:47:48.000I think this is a healthy discussion I think that's something that's needs to be had and it's funny just so people remember if someone if you don't mind finding it for me or somebody they could put up in the nest like Trump himself back in like 2017 if I'm not mistaken He even said that the h-1b visa is a prog B visa program is a program that's being exploited and abused and he needs to be reeled in this is Trump that said this before I just wanna say, right?
02:48:13.000these hardcore MAGA supporters aren't saying anything that President Trump hasn't already said when it comes to H1Bs. - I just wanna say, right? - Let me see if I can find it. - I just wanna make a statement.
02:48:25.000I think Elon Musk is the most smartest man on the planet.
02:49:02.000This is a statement that Scott Adams wrote.
02:49:06.000Maga is taking a page from the Democrats on how to lose elections while feeling good about themselves.
02:49:12.000And Elon Musk said, yes, and those contemptible fools must be removed from the Republican Party.
02:49:22.000and stem so it does look like a complete realignment with the uh where the republican party's going and one last point i want to make before you play that video um myron is isn't it interesting that laura luma literally said she wants to turn gaza into a parking lot breaking twitter terms and conditions um
02:49:49.000because she was asking for genocide and nothing happened to her and this time what did she do but just have a political point that was against the narrative and she got suspended like what is going on it is crazy Yeah.
02:50:21.000No, I mean, that's an interesting point that you bring up, Suleiman.
02:50:25.000I think her being censored on this H1B thing, because she's the one who actually brought this to You know, brought this topic up and exposed a lot of these tech guys for kind of flip-flopping between the different parties.
02:50:37.000And for her to be de-badged and they took her subscribers away, I think it's ridiculous.
02:50:41.000And I know, you know, I like Laura a lot.
02:50:45.000Me and her disagree on the Israel situation, but we agree on a lot of other things and immigration is absolutely one of them.
02:50:50.000And I do like the fact that she's fearless and she goes after a lot of these people that are, you know, that have kind of doubled back.
02:50:58.000She's exposing all these tech tech people.
02:51:00.000And, you know, now they're exacting their revenge on her because she literally she made a threat where she exposed all of these Palantir PayPal mafia tech oligarchs.
02:51:10.000And now they're responding by, you know, fucking with her with her reach.
02:51:15.000I think it's completely unfair on a topic that honestly is something that needs to be discussed.
02:51:20.000This H1B thing is a problem for a while.
02:51:31.000I just threw that interaction between Scott Adams and Elon Musk up in the nest.
02:51:35.000Uh, and we should again reiterate that this person, this Nira, that they were responding to is a Soros agent who's a former Never Trumper, okay?
02:51:45.000And now apparently a Soros agent who's a former Never Trumper now speaks for MAGA.
02:51:50.000And if you disagree with flooding America with foreigners, and if you disagree with Soros agents and former Never Trumpers, then you deserve to be replaced.
02:51:59.000And you don't get to be in MAG anymore.
02:52:13.000I mean, we are contemptible fools if we don't want our country over on the foreigners, or if we disagree with this immigration policy, if we disagree with former Never Trumpers, we're contemptible fools that must be removed from the party and replaced root stem.
02:53:07.000We just got some news that a bunch of Graper accounts that were big accounts, not small, 50,000 to 100,000 follower accounts, with a massive amount of influence, they all got purged out of nowhere for opposing this H1B stance that Vivek and Elon have.
02:53:25.000I mean, I'll be very candid about this.
02:53:27.000This is supposed to be the freedom of speech platform, and this is something that we used to make fun of the left for, and have problems with the left for, is the mass censorship.
02:53:34.000And, you know, if we're going to continue down this path, we're no better.
02:53:37.000And I hope that this was a clerical error, that it wasn't done by Elon Musk himself, rather maybe some rogue techs at OverheadX, and he can, you know, reinstate these accounts.
02:53:47.000If we're going to have freedom of speech, that means freedom of speech, even freedom of speech that we dislike.
02:53:51.000I mean, hell, I got haters right now in my chat talking shit, calling me an African or whatever the fuck it may be these idiots want to say.
02:54:06.000To your point as well, I put a tweet in the nest from Ian Chong.
02:54:13.000what there seems to be a distinction is, is kind of the right slash MAGA movement and then kind of the, uh, American first movement.
02:54:22.000Like there's almost like a degree of separation that suddenly come from, from, um, what's been happening today.
02:54:27.000And Ian had put, uh, that these guys are talking more about the Groypers and kind of American first guys, like the retarded right that are on the fringes of the conservative movement against Musk.
02:54:40.000And, um, and, uh, you know, unrepentantly racist.
02:54:45.000And then Elon Musk had replied exactly that.
02:54:47.000So I think there's a clear distinction where it's like, we want MAGA, but we only want it in the palatable form.
02:55:20.000I'm sharing it on the screen for everybody.
02:55:22.000Again, guys, I'm live on Rumble and on YouTube if you guys actually want to see some of this stream.
02:55:26.000And I'm live on X as well if you guys want to, like, see the visual here.
02:55:29.000And I'm going to play this Trump clip as well here in a second.
02:55:32.000But, yeah, guys like Ian Chong, Alex Jones, you know, I'm interested to see what PBD is going to say about this.
02:55:40.000A lot of them, you know, they're gonna go ahead and side with Elon on this because they have certain affiliations that they don't want to hurt and they might not necessarily, you know, some of these people used to be pro strong borders and anti-immigration, but now they're kind of shifting things because Elon has this stance on immigration and I'm gonna have to say myself, I respectfully disagree.
02:55:58.000Mass immigration I think is a serious problem.
02:56:00.000And I think the H-1B visa program is not necessarily designed for quote unquote extraordinary talent, rather it's used as a go around to hire cheap foreign labor at the cost of American citizens.
02:56:13.000And if we really wanna go ahead and get the best and the brightest as they claim, then make them do the O-1 visa.
02:56:35.000And I see Miles Chong here saying, much of the anger being driven towards Elon Musk today is simply disappointment being projected by the retarded right that's on the fringe of the conservative movement against Musk.
02:56:42.000Let me be very clear about this Chong guy, right?
02:56:45.000This Elon-Miles Chong guy He's a fucking Malaysian.
02:57:04.000Even worse than that, Sam, just so people know the backstory, he's a Chinese guy living in Malaysia, which is a Muslim-majority country.
02:57:13.000He's been obviously attacking Muslims a lot, being an extreme Zionist.
02:57:16.000What happened was somebody provided evidence to Malaysia and then the Malaysian authorities came after him and then Ian Miles Chong was on the run and I believe he's relocated to a different Asian country.
02:57:32.000Well, yeah, the thing is so we know okay, so I don't even know that he was a Chinese national but the guy basically he lives in Asia and He has no dog in the fight here, right?
02:57:42.000And here, I don't have a problem with foreign nationals commenting on American politics to a degree.
02:57:48.000But this guy isn't even in a Western English-speaking, five-eyes country, and he's talking about immigration in America.
02:57:55.000And the thing is, like, he doesn't deal with any of the blowback or any of the consequences of his stupid-ass speech because he doesn't live here.
02:58:01.000He doesn't understand how immigration works in the United States.
02:58:03.000So for him to comment constantly on American politics as a fucking foreigner that's never been to America is hilarious.
02:58:10.000And how can he comment on immigration when it's like, dude, you live in homogenous countries that don't practice immigration.
02:59:03.000And second of all, I think it's very important to say, well, I'm a businessman, and I have to do what I have to do.
02:59:08.000And it's sitting there waiting for you, but it's very bad.
02:59:12.000It's very bad for business in terms of... It's very bad for our workers, and it's unfair for our workers, and we should end it.
02:59:19.000The H won't be very well and it's uh so he says I know the H won't be very well and look I love that he W Trump man I gotta give him a markup because you know and this is why his 2016 um presidency his campaign run was legendary right?
02:59:34.000I remember famously Hillary Clinton said, hey, you know, you don't pay her taxes, you do XYZ, whatever.
02:59:42.000And he said, yeah, that's because I'm smart.
02:59:44.000I used all the loopholes that all your donors use.
02:59:47.000And that was literally like a fucking fatality.
02:59:55.000You know, if I was president, you'd be in jail, all this shit, locker up.
02:59:58.000Like, he had all these memorable quotes from his 2016 run, and here he is, a guy that's an entrepreneur, you know, obviously runs a successful hotel chain.
03:00:05.000He said, look, I use the H-1B visa, you know, I'm a businessman, but it's a problem.
03:00:13.000And I think this is very important for people to see that this is...
03:00:17.000Trump's view on the H-1B visa, and I'm sure he probably still holds this view, but obviously, you know, you got Elon with you, you got Peter Thiel, you got all these tech guys who have a vested interest in the H-1B visa.
03:01:19.000They can, you know, they pay for their housing.
03:01:23.000You know, they keep them on site, feed them on site, you know, and they don't have to pay them much.
03:01:28.000And so Americans have to compete with, you know, seven and a half billion foreigners in the world who will be willing to come here, work two, three times longer for half the pay or some fraction of the pay, And that just undercuts the American worker and the American citizen.
03:01:46.000So, of course he sees that as an edge.
03:01:48.000Okay, you're willing to work twice as long for half the pay?
03:01:52.000Of course you're going to get preferential treatment.
03:02:07.000I don't remember our founders, you know, our founding fathers and our framers being like, yeah, let's open this country up to the entire world and make life harder for the people here in our own country.
03:02:20.000I don't think that's the American way.
03:02:21.000I don't think that's the American dream.
03:02:23.000That's the attitude of a foreigner who, yeah, he came, he worked hard, he was successful.
03:02:28.000You know, there's seven and a half billion potential people like him in the world.
03:02:32.000That doesn't protect Americans, and that really just treats our country as an economic zone, as a sports ball team, as a corporation, and not a country and a people.
03:02:44.000And that's what he is a first-generation immigrant, and Vivek is an immigrant, and Elon is an immigrant.
03:02:49.000That's what these guys don't understand, is that, like, we have a country.
03:03:17.000I find this really interesting that a lot of people are going ahead and inciting with Elon and Vivek on this.
03:03:25.000And I think a part of it is because maybe they agree.
03:03:28.000I think another part of it is self-preservation to secure collabs and, you know, win the popularity vote because it's the cool thing right now, right?
03:03:36.000Alex Jones, PBD, now they've all taken the stance where they're pro.
03:04:35.000Everyone that's a big social media influencer, it's becoming very fucking clear to me now that guys are more concerned with securing collabs and being popular, right, than standing on fucking business.
03:04:49.000If I gotta be the only fucking guy that's a first-generation American to say this shit, then let me fucking say it.
03:04:56.000Because for every one PBD, or one every Vivek, or one Elon Musk, there's tens of thousands of scumbags that come here and abuse the fucking system.
03:05:08.000And that's what they're not talking about.
03:05:10.000For every one person that comes in and becomes a doctor and becomes successful, there's ten that do some fuck shit.
03:05:16.000That commit crimes, that abuse the system, that fucking don't pay their taxes, etc.
03:05:21.000So, mass immigration is a fucking problem, and this is coming from someone that came from a first, as a first generation American, born here from immigrant parents.
03:05:29.000And I'll fucking tell you guys, because I can say this shit.
03:05:32.000When my father came to this country, right?
03:05:34.000We had a lot of Sudanese counterparts that came here.
03:05:36.000These motherfuckers all came here, didn't work, abused welfare systems, scammed the system, and lied.
03:05:42.000And one of the things that my father always told me, which I will always respect him for this shit, he would always tell me, I never took welfare, I never took a dollar that wasn't mine, I always paid my taxes, I contributed to this country, you're not gonna be a piece of shit like them.
03:05:54.000I never took a dollar of welfare, you're gonna be somebody.
03:05:56.000That's what he always used to fucking tell me, right, as a kid.
03:05:59.000Meanwhile, all our other counterparts that came from Sudan and the Middle East, etc., were doing some fuck shit, right?
03:06:06.000Now, I shouldn't be talking about this.
03:06:07.000I should be super pro-immigration, super pro-yeah, give everybody an opportunity, give everyone a dream, but I'm gonna call it like it fucking is.
03:06:16.000For every one good person that comes from these third-world, war-torn, piece-of-shit fucking countries, There's 20 that do a bunch of fuck shit.
03:06:24.000They come here, they import their fucked up culture, they import their fucked up religion, they import their fucked up society, and in some cases with the Indians, they import their bad fucking hygiene, right?
03:06:36.000And they come here and they don't fucking assimilate.
03:06:38.000They don't learn the language, they don't respect the culture, they want to bring their fucked up culture here.
03:06:45.000And I have the ability, as someone who's a first-generation American, to view this, acknowledge this, and say the painful truth, despite the fact that I came from immigrant parents.
03:06:54.000Because, luckily, my father wasn't a scumbag and told me what the fuck it was.
03:06:59.000All our counterparts are coming here and scamming, son.
03:07:21.000I'm disappointed in Vivek, and I'm disappointed in Elon.
03:07:24.000They don't understand that just because they're excellent, and they were immigrants, or they came from an immigrant background, doesn't mean that everyone else is.
03:07:33.000The H-1B visa program is a fucking scam used to bring in cheap labor, typically Indians, because they're like 80% of the fucking base, to come here and get tech jobs and override Americans that are qualified for the job.
03:07:45.000And a lot of times they get these coding jobs, they're not even good at it.
03:08:26.000Visa waiver motherfuckers coming in from Canada a lot of times, by the way, overstaying their visas.
03:08:30.000Then we got the fucking pandemic going on on the fucking border.
03:08:33.000We are getting raped on all fucking angles in the United States by foreign invaders that don't assimilate, don't respect the culture, and abuse our fucking system.
03:08:42.000If someone's not gonna fucking say it, I will fucking say it.
03:08:45.000And I'm saying it as a first-generation American that came from immigrant parents.
03:08:51.000Luckily my dad wasn't a scumbag and didn't abuse the system, but I'll tell you this, he told me all the other families that did that came from the Middle East, and I'm not afraid to admit that shit.
03:08:59.000For every one of my families, there were 20 that were doing some fuck shit.
03:09:02.000So no, we will not let these motherfuckers come in and bring their fucked up culture.
03:09:53.000Our visa systems are being fucking abused, and I will outline this systematically.
03:09:57.000As someone that used to actually be on the southwest border, that understands the visa system, we are getting raped as a nation by this bullshit, man.
03:10:04.000And on all angles, by non- by visa waiver countries!
03:10:08.000People are coming here from First World Countries still overstaying their fucking stay.
03:10:11.000People abusing the J-1s, the F-1s, the H-1Bs.
03:10:16.000Then we're getting raped on the Southwest border by motherfuckers just sneaking in, getting NTA RORs and the Border Patrol not fucking sending them back with expedited removals like they're supposed to.
03:11:15.000I love that you pointed out that for every statistical outlier like PVD or Elon Musk or Vivek Ramaswamy, there's 1,000 or 10,000 or 100,000 immigrants that are not productive, not killing it, not helping anybody.
03:11:50.000Number two, if these guys were really America first and wanted America to win, they would be expending just as much ink and breath and resources talking about how they are going to engineer mass deportations, how much money they're going to spend, the systems and infrastructure they're going to put in place to do it, and their plans to do it, and how they're going to do it, and they would be out there fighting for it, fomenting for it.
03:12:21.000After we've just seen about 20 million legal and illegal immigrants come into the United States in just the last 10 years, over 20 million in just the last 10 years.
03:12:30.000And rather than saying, Hey, you know, for every hundred we deport, we're going to, we want to bring in one of these, you know, really super special immigrants and then fighting for They're not, they're not doing any of that.
03:12:41.000Instead, they just want to keep the pedal to the metal and keep importing people for their stock prices and their bottom lines.
03:13:20.000These guys don't have America in their soul.
03:13:25.000And again, that also comes from their inexperience in understanding the immigration problem.
03:13:32.000And that's why I'm being so passionate about this, letting you guys know that in the United States, we're getting fucked from multiple angles, guys.
03:13:37.000It's not just the visas that are getting abused.
03:13:39.000We're getting destroyed on the southwest border.
03:13:41.000And we got people coming from first world countries, Canada especially, Canada, France.
03:13:45.000So many of them come to the United States and overstay.
03:13:48.000They just stay here because their countries suck.
03:13:50.000So, we're not just getting destroyed by the people from these poor countries.
03:13:54.000First worlders are coming here and overstaying their welcome as well.
03:13:57.000So, this is a big problem that we need to fix and we need to seriously, like, focus on getting these motherfuckers out because they drain resources.
03:14:04.000And people don't think, like, a lot of people that come on these visas, they overstay.
03:14:07.000A lot of them come in legally and then stay here illegally after the fact.
03:14:13.000Since I'm on Rumble, I'm just gonna fucking say this shit.
03:14:16.000When you go ahead and you research who's all for the open borders, the people that push this fucking bullshit every single time, which I find very interesting because if you go ahead and try to immigrate to their country, they'd never let you in because you don't got a fucking birthright.
03:14:31.000All the people that push open borders in the United States, They're Jewish-run Zionist organizations, but if I went ahead and tried to put these organizations... I went to try to do some type of immigration open borders over there, they would never let me fucking bring people in over there!
03:14:47.000And I actually respect the Israelis for that, because they understand security, they understand sovereignty, and they understand protecting their people.
03:14:54.000America needs to take a page out of Israel's book for once, and not let them run us, and go ahead and adopt their immigration policy.
03:15:00.000Because last time I checked, they don't have open borders, and they're pretty fucking secure to some degree. - Okay. - And I thought my third, just hold on for a sec.
03:15:09.000My third point, Myron, from your first set of comments was speaking with respect to their talent and their coding and their engineering capabilities.
03:15:18.000I'm not a coder, I'm not a computer scientist, but I know several people who are, and I have not ever heard, every white American coder I've ever heard talk about this, to a man and woman they will say, Indian coders, their code sucks.
03:15:42.000Now, if somebody has heard different, I'm all ears, but it's almost universal amongst the software world.
03:15:49.000Yeah, everyone tells me they suck too.
03:15:51.000I was going to add to that as well because It's linked to what Sam said, and it's just a comment Patrick Ben David tweeted.
03:16:00.000He said, so you want me to hire a high-performing, hard-working and skilled Indian, and you want me to hire an American even if that person is not capable, lacks skill and is entitled.
03:16:23.000Sam mentioned Patrick by David, but I think people like Patrick by David, someone I called out nearly a year and a half ago, people like Vivek are actually more of a threat than your average person.
03:16:34.000And the reason is because you think that they're okay.
03:16:38.000You think that they've You know they're there for the best interest of the country or the western civilization and yet they dare to harm it.
03:16:46.000Vivek Swami putting India first is a prime example of that and the harm they cause is much worse than Even an average person, even an average Indian.
03:18:43.000Going back and looking at the deficit of federal judges and attorneys to handle these immigration cases, the only good thing I could find was a U.S.
03:18:53.000Department of Justice FY 2022 budget request for 600 immigration judges and support staff, 200 attorneys, 100 IGs, But I never heard, and I've tried to look at good news stories, who has followed up on the hiring of these judges, the implementation, because the backlog of immigration cases is going to continue to build.
03:19:23.000And I can see once Trump takes office, there He's going to try deportations and there's going to be liberals that are going to throw federal law.
03:19:32.000Well, they've already walked back some of that deportation.
03:19:35.000Hey, Sam, by the way, I think your mic is echoing a little bit.
03:19:44.000Okay, so when it comes to the mass deportations, well, they've already kind of walked that back.
03:19:52.000Homan's already said that, hey, we're going to only focus on criminal aliens, which, you know, that's always been the mantra.
03:19:58.000You know, the criminal alien program, which, you know, is an ICE-led directive.
03:20:01.000They go after illegal aliens that are in the country that have a criminal conviction, right?
03:20:06.000Or sometimes they go after them if they have what's called two crimes of moral interpretation, which typically ends up being two misdemeanors.
03:20:13.000Yeah, it's going to be the same thing, dude.
03:20:15.000It's going to be the same thing when Trump was originally in, where they go after the criminal aliens and people that are here that are already in deportation proceedings with an immigration judge, they're typically not going to touch them because when you have a date with a judge, that kind of gives you status.
03:22:16.000But in the International Olympiad of Information and Statistics, Indians actually finish somewhere around 30th or 35th in the world, somewhere way down the list in winning medals at these international like Olympics for tech and math and stuff, right?
03:23:37.000So I wanted to add a bit of context to something that Myron said a bit earlier.
03:23:41.000about who are the people funding this mass immigration stuff.
03:23:46.000We all know who it is, but my own personal context with that is I actually went to law school, I got a scholarship, and I actually had a couple of my interns funded by a Jewish organization.
03:23:59.000And the only strings attached to that was, we need you to, over the summer, we need you to at least crank out Like 50, like 50 to 75 immigration applications.
03:24:14.000So like U visas, VAWAs, anything like that.
03:24:18.000And that was the only requirement they gave us.
03:24:22.000They just said, Here's the money, we'll pay for you to be funded for that summer, which is rare when you're a first-year law student, which is the situation I was in when I was funded.
03:24:37.000And all they asked for was, put out these applications, try to get as many people as you can in.
03:24:46.000Yeah, I mean, when you look at a lot of these, you know, the Open Border Society run by Soros, etc., a lot of these pro-immigration boards, they're run by Zionist Jews.
03:24:55.000And I find it interesting because those same Zionist Jews would never let people into Israel.
03:25:00.000So the same, they go ahead and let people invade the United States, but they would never allow that immigration policy to their own country.
03:25:56.000And then there's another one from PBD that says, unfortunately, some brains can't process this.
03:26:02.000And he goes on the shitpost on fucking American tech workers.
03:26:06.000So the attitude, the cultural attitude of these motherfuckers is that American tech workers and now MAGA, you can start to see this shift again of now MAGA is, you know, a bunch of low IQ hillbillies from the hinterlands or whatever.
03:26:59.000So, uh, yeah, so as you can see, I just shared to the nest, uh, Steve Bond and slams the H1B visa tech bros as a bunch of as a, as a bunch of on the spectrum geeks.
03:27:37.000I've seen a picture of him that allegedly is him.
03:27:44.000Shown by his close friends, and he's like a liberal long-haired type nerdy type of looking guy Yeah, he has the same accent, but I don't think it's him, bro I'm gonna make a very decree and like I understand many people may not think it's might not he be him But I truly believe that was Elon Musk because when Dalton was going off all of a sudden the next day You know all the grumpers accounts like if anyone that was a free day with Project Royper all their accounts got nuked
03:28:11.000Second, the next day that it happened, you can literally go back into space and listen to it.
03:28:16.000When Dalton was going up against this guy, Adrian, who supposedly could talk perfectly like Elon, literally laughed like him too.
03:28:42.000They just have a very similar South African accent and, you know, obviously a South African accent is not common to hear.
03:28:48.000So, you know, it could be anybody, bro, I'll be honest with you.
03:28:53.000But, I mean, regardless, right, I think this, like I said, this H-1B visa controversy has exposed a lot of people and it's exposed a lot of, you know, big influencers.
03:29:03.000And I think a lot of them are siding with Elon more from a self-preservation standpoint versus their own real political standpoints.
03:29:11.000And, you know, anybody that's siding with Elon on this, you know, for for clout, which I think a lot of them are doing, it's kind of it's kind of it's kind of gay.
03:30:12.000And the H-1B has been a way that these big employers have been able to get around paying higher costs to American citizens for years.
03:30:20.000And shout out to Laura Loomer for bringing this topic up and exposing these tech guys for what they are.
03:30:24.000Because, again, a lot of them are doubling back.
03:30:26.000Peter Thiel, Mark Zuckerberg, hell, even Elon Musk.
03:30:29.000A lot of these guys didn't like Trump.
03:30:31.000It wasn't until Trump had that fucking glorious picture of him raising the fist after almost being killed by weird ass Matthew Crooks that a lot of these guys said, OK, we need to get we need to support.
03:30:44.000And then next thing you know, Peter Thiel and all these, um, you know, big tech guys started supporting Trump.
03:30:49.000But look, they have their, their ulterior motives.
03:30:51.000And again, like I said those before, I want to remind everyone when Trump had the January 6th fiasco and he got banned off of every single platform, Mark Zuckerberg and all the other tech nerds did nothing to help him.
03:31:04.000They wouldn't have cared if he rotted in prison, etc.
03:31:06.000And then what happened after he got banned off all these platforms?
03:31:09.000Subsequent indictments in four different jurisdictions, two federal, two state, and I would argue a big part of the reason why he got indicted wasn't able to counter the narrative that a lot of these mainstream media platforms put when they made it front line news that Trump got He got arrested, he couldn't even defend himself via social media because he was banned.
03:31:27.000And Zuckerberg, that fucking faggot, that cuck, was the main fucking proponent that led the charge with him getting banned.
03:31:34.000He got banned off Facebook, he got banned off Instagram, he got banned off of YouTube, and he got banned off of Twitter, everywhere.
03:31:41.000So, and then if you look, who runs all these companies?
03:31:45.000Oh, we know who runs these companies, we know where they're from, right?
03:31:48.000Now they want to come groveling back, right, to the White House.
03:31:52.000Oh yeah, Trump, uh, you know, we're libertarians now.
03:31:55.000Get the fuck out of here, you fucking faggots.
03:31:58.000We know where the fuck you guys really stand.
03:32:00.000And this H1B thing is exposing a lot of these people that are so-called conservatives or right-wings as flaming Fuckin' centrist liberal faggots.
03:32:10.000And I'm disappointed in a lot of these influencers that aren't taking a stand and saying what the fuck the American people really think.
03:32:20.000Let's just, you know, let me just go ahead and call a fuckin' spade a spade.
03:32:24.000A lot of these motherfuckers We're only influencers and didn't have real jobs before this shit, right?
03:32:30.000I remember working a regular job, paying fucking taxes, being in line at the grocery store.
03:32:36.000I remember what life was like before being a fucking millionaire.
03:32:38.000And I'll tell you guys, the American people are fucking struggling, okay?
03:32:42.000So for people to sit there and say, well, immigration isn't that really bad of a problem, Because we're just gonna go ahead and get the best and brightest.
03:32:50.000You're bringing in a bunch of fucking jeets that aren't even good at their job, can't properly code, they have really bad accents, so when you put them on customer service, I can't even get the fucking help I want!
03:32:59.000I don't understand these niggas every time I call American Express, and it's fucking ridiculous!
03:33:03.000And nobody is stepping up and saying anything!
03:33:05.000And the problem is, when you've been rich for too long, you don't identify with the American public.
03:33:10.000A lot of these influencers have made money for too fucking long, 10 years, 20 years, and don't remember what it's like to be an average person making less than $100,000 per year and living paycheck to paycheck like the rest of the Americans so they have no fucking clue what's going on.
03:33:23.000If I gotta be the one to speak up for the people because I recently got into the social media thing, so fucking be it.
03:33:27.000They wanted to crucify me for saying the truth, so fucking be it.
03:33:56.000So we gotta be real here and be honest and understand that these foreign invaders don't come here to make the country better.
03:34:03.000They come here to make themselves better, take that talent, go back to their country, or worse yet, they send that money back to their fucking country.
03:34:13.000And if we aren't gonna be honest and have these tough discussions, and I gotta be the fucking one to bring it up, right, as someone that's also, uh, comes from, and, uh, I was born here, but my parents were first gen, uh, were, uh, immigrated here.
03:34:23.000If I gotta be the one to tell the truth about this shit, so fucking be it.
03:34:27.000But a lot of these guys don't want to be honest because they don't want to lose their connection to Elon, they don't want to lose a connection to Twitter, maybe, they don't want to lose a connection to, uh, collabs and opportunities.
03:34:42.000And the truth is, immigration doesn't help the American people at fucking all.
03:34:45.000It helps the oligarchs, it helps the big business owners.
03:34:48.000I mean, hell, you guys just saw the clip from 2016 where Trump said, yeah, when I was a business owner, it worked for me, but it hurts the American people.
03:34:55.000How more candid can you be with admitting that?
03:34:58.000You got the President of the United States saying this shit back before.
03:37:06.000And they don't know what the fuck they're talking about when it comes to this situation.
03:37:10.000As someone that intimately understands the INA, intimately understands the fucking immigration problem, with boots on the actual ground and experience arresting these fucking assholes that abuse the system, I am here to tell you, How do I?
03:37:23.000Emphatically, they're fucking wrong and they don't know what they're talking about.
03:37:27.000They've been rich for too fucking long.
03:37:28.000They're disconnected with the American people.
03:37:31.000It's not a matter of DEI and getting the best and brightest.
03:38:23.000They're all wrong, and I'd be happy to discuss this shit with them.
03:38:26.000They're selling out, and I'm fucking... It's really disheartening to see someone like Alex Jones, you know, taking a stance on this pro-immigration bullshit, or PBD.
03:39:33.000She got a call from an employment attorney in California that kind of just outlined the massive fraud that is going on.
03:39:41.000You basically got these body shops that are contracting with the companies.
03:39:46.000The body shops bring the H1B workers in, provide the housing, and then they're charging the company whatever, $80 an hour, and then paying the workers like $40 an hour.
03:40:15.000I know I've been ranting here a little, a little bit, and I want to give the Florida, you know, whether it's Sam or Suleiman, anything on that.
03:40:59.000We gotta echo what the American people are dealing with, right?
03:41:04.000Just because immigration might not affect me as much now as it did before, doesn't necessarily mean that I can't still identify with the American people.
03:41:12.000Because when I look at this shit, I'm looking at it from like, okay, I'm in a privileged position, but what is the rest of the country dealing with?
03:41:19.000And the rest of the country is fucking struggling.
03:41:21.000And we don't need more fucking problems.
03:41:23.000We're in the middle of two fucking wars right now.
03:43:00.000Like, legitimately, there was an odor.
03:43:02.000And I'm like, it's not about even the money and everything we've been discussing here.
03:43:07.000I know I see all these laughing emojis, but it's true.
03:43:10.000Like, genuinely speaking, it's about culture and cadence.
03:43:15.000It doesn't matter, like, if Americans don't want these people because they're not going to assimilate proper, they have every right to say no.
03:43:22.000I don't know why we're, you know, I understand talking about foreign policy, all of these points, but it's just going to show you that all of these con-ink influencers, literally, conservative ink has been the issue, and this is why the Gropius have been correct about this ad nauseum, like, they're just controlled up on the other side.
03:43:39.000These Indians are just simply, you know, The foot soldiers are the Jews.
03:43:47.000That's pretty much what we're seeing here.
03:43:48.000Basically, we're seeing through this, most people are seeing through all this black bullshit, that now they're like, okay, let's transfer the clergy plan to Indians.
03:43:57.000And we'll just say it's about IQ, which is, you know, not substantiated as well.
03:45:11.000You guys want to talk about the INA and how we're being overrun?
03:45:15.000I'd be happy to have a discussion with anyone that wants to talk about this, but Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy, PBD, Alex Jones, all these guys that are pro-H1B, pro-mass immigration, are fucking wrong.
03:45:27.000I don't even care if it's just some immigration with H1B visas.
03:45:45.000I'm going to end the stream here in a second.
03:45:46.000Thank you guys so much for tuning into the space.
03:45:49.000And yeah, you know, call out these fucking influencers.
03:45:51.000If they're saying some bullshit, guys, call them out.
03:45:54.000Yeah, sorry, I know you're about to end the space and the most annoying thing is when someone wants to make a last point before you end the space.
03:45:59.000But one point I wanted to make is, and I'll make it concise as possible, is because Arthur mentioned something.
03:46:06.000When you look at Indians and you look at Hindutva, the Hindutva ideology and the Zionist ideology are basically the brother-sister ideology.
03:47:42.000Guys, I hope you guys enjoyed this space.
03:47:43.000Like I said before, I hope everyone is fine and no one loses their account for having this discourse.
03:47:48.000I think this is an important discussion.
03:47:49.000Again, I'd be happy to talk to any influencer that's pro-H1B or pro-mass immigration and debate them on this topic.
03:47:55.000I will be the voice of the people, but it's a problem, and it needs to be stopped at all angles, whether it's visas, illegal migration, visa waivers, marriage fraud.
03:48:03.000It's all a fucking problem, and the United States is getting raped with mass immigration in different ways.
03:48:08.000I'm telling you guys, they're doing it surreptitiously, and we don't even know, and it's a fucking problem.
03:48:24.000All right guys, so hope you guys enjoyed the stream.
03:48:28.000We're still live on all the other platforms I will go ahead and let me switch this shit back to all the platforms Yeah, that was fire.
03:48:37.000I hope you guys enjoyed that I'm gonna read some of these super chats, and then I'm gonna close this thing out we were cooking on that Hopefully I don't lose my ex account, but you know if it is what it is You know I mean you got to tell the fucking truth, bro Uh, okay.
03:49:45.0002015, oh I think someone, Durag Myron sent me this, I think this was from what you were saying, yeah, our web archive, yeah, and I played the clip too where Trump was anti-H1B.
03:49:54.000So this isn't even anti-Trump what we're talking about guys, this is the original MAGA movement, man, where we said no to fucking H1B visas, right?
03:51:34.000It's a problem, and the Democrats have been hiding it for a bit, and now the Conservatives are trying to throw it under the rug, but nah, man.