Fresh & Fit - August 12, 2024


Elon Musk X Donald Trump Interview Reaction


Episode Stats

Length

5 hours and 9 minutes

Words per Minute

173.9198

Word Count

53,776

Sentence Count

5,346

Misogynist Sentences

134

Hate Speech Sentences

242


Summary

In this episode of the Fresh Air Podcast, we discuss the Elon Musk Space X launch, the DDoS attack on the space, and the Trump vs Kamala Harris debate. We also talk about the new Tesla Model Y, the Tesla Model S, and much more! We hope you enjoy the episode and tweet us if you liked it with any questions or suggestions. Timestamps: 0:00 - Elon Musk's SpaceX launch 7:15 - Trump vs. Elon's Space X Debate 14:10 - DDoS Attack on the SpaceX Launch 19:30 - Elon's SpaceX Spacex Launch 21:20 - Elon and Trump's Spacex Debate 26:40 - Tesla's Model Y Launch 31:00 - Elon s SpaceX Spacecraft 32:30 - Trump and Tesla's SpaceX Launch 33:20 - The Tesla Model X Launch 35:00- Elon's Elon Musk vs. Trump SpaceX Debate 40:00 | Elon Musk and the Downtrope 45:00 // Trump vs Hillary Clinton Debate 47:30 | Elon'sSpaceX SpaceX is the only place you can watch or listen to Elon Musk on the internet Theme song by Zapsplat Theme Song by Ian Dorsch Get the show: Download MP3" Subscribe to the podcast (RSS) Subscribe on iTunes Learn more about your ad choices. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (RATE & Review? Rate/subscribe in iTunes Learn about our upcoming releases! Subscribe to our podcast, review our podcast on Podcharts Podcasts! Subscribe on Podcoin - Rate and review our merch, books, tayt, and subscribe on PODDS, etc. etc., etc. We are listening to Podcasts, etc., we are giving out gifts and more! We are working on a new podcast, so don't forget to rate and review us a review on iTunes, review us on PodCast, review and review this podcast on your favourite podcast, and we are reviewing our podcast is amazing! , Thank you! We are looking out for your reviews and review on Podcast, review on the pod, review your podcast, and review it on PodCAST, we are listening out on it is amazing, so please leave us on it's amazing, review it out on your podcast and review your thoughts and review is amazing and review we are amazing, we are awesome and we will review it!


Transcript

00:18:29.000 And we are live.
00:18:30.000 What's up, guys?
00:18:30.000 Welcome to the Freshly Podcast, man.
00:18:32.000 Today we're going to be covering the Elon and Trump discussion.
00:18:35.000 Also, we're going to be covering the news.
00:18:37.000 We've got a bunch of topics to cover as well.
00:18:38.000 So, are we going to play the intro on this one?
00:18:42.000 I mean, we could.
00:18:43.000 Let's do it.
00:18:43.000 Let's go.
00:19:33.000 Alright.
00:19:34.000 Alright, what's up guys?
00:19:35.000 Welcome to the Fresh Air Podcast.
00:19:36.000 My name is Salman Ahmed.
00:19:38.000 So guys, just so you guys know, we are actually in the Twitter space as we speak.
00:19:42.000 Can we show them a screen maybe?
00:19:44.000 Share a screen with them, maybe?
00:19:45.000 Show them, like, what's going on?
00:19:46.000 We got lucky.
00:19:47.000 We got lucky.
00:19:47.000 We're in here, guys.
00:19:48.000 You guys can see.
00:19:49.000 Bill's actually in there on his account.
00:19:51.000 Look at the comments.
00:19:52.000 Am I the only one who can't join?
00:19:53.000 See?
00:19:54.000 Yeah.
00:19:54.000 It's stressful, bro.
00:19:55.000 So there's a bunch of issues.
00:19:56.000 If you go ahead, Bill's, go ahead.
00:19:57.000 Show them all the people that are in there.
00:19:59.000 Scroll down.
00:19:59.000 Like, yeah.
00:20:00.000 A million people.
00:20:01.000 Right now, it's like, what, 200-some thousand?
00:20:04.000 If I'm not mistaken?
00:20:05.000 I have no clue.
00:20:06.000 In there?
00:20:06.000 198K, I believe.
00:20:08.000 198K is what it said?
00:20:09.000 So, um...
00:20:10.000 A lot of people are in there.
00:20:12.000 The space still hasn't started.
00:20:14.000 This sound effect, by the way, Mo, if you could play it.
00:20:16.000 This is the sound effect that plays whenever you're on X and you're waiting for the space to start.
00:20:22.000 You can hear it coming from Donald Trump's mic, which means that he's still waiting and getting ready, but we are definitely in here.
00:20:28.000 We can see what's going on.
00:20:30.000 Apparently, Elon confirmed this DDoS attack on the actual app itself, so there you go.
00:20:36.000 So we are live.
00:20:37.000 We actually are in this space.
00:20:41.000 So, oh, somebody said, who's on?
00:20:45.000 The quartering as well.
00:20:46.000 He has a bunch of people live as well at the quartering.
00:20:48.000 We're on YouTube?
00:20:49.000 Yeah, let me see.
00:20:51.000 No, he's probably live on Rumble.
00:20:53.000 Sorry, Rumble, sorry.
00:20:54.000 Yeah, he's not live on YouTube.
00:20:55.000 Let me look here.
00:20:56.000 Hey, guys, we're dealing with a lot of stuff with this current setup.
00:20:59.000 Yeah, everybody's on.
00:21:01.000 So what that means is that, because you were one of the few people in that, this is going to be one of the few places you can go to watch it.
00:21:09.000 Yeah, that's true.
00:21:11.000 If you're not already in one of the two Twitter spaces, either the Elon one, then this is the only way you can watch or listen to the Elon Musk space.
00:21:22.000 Holy shit, Quartering has 128k watching right now on Rumble.
00:21:25.000 Shout out to him, bro.
00:21:26.000 Yeah, shit.
00:21:27.000 Awesome.
00:21:28.000 Shit, so yeah.
00:21:29.000 But yeah, guys, share this with your friends.
00:21:31.000 If you are trying to, matter of fact, I'm going to drop the YouTube link right now on Twitter because we're one of the few people that are actually in the fucking room.
00:21:39.000 Or the rumble link.
00:21:40.000 So I guess, do we want to give a background on what's going on here with this conversation and how it even started?
00:21:45.000 I mean, you're on X a lot.
00:21:46.000 Yeah, I will do.
00:21:48.000 I'll explain it.
00:21:48.000 I'm just tweeting it out as well because I was thinking there's a lot of people.
00:21:52.000 Yeah, drop the YouTube link or the rumble link, whichever one you want to drop.
00:21:53.000 I saw HowStream is sweet.
00:21:54.000 They couldn't get in.
00:21:55.000 A bunch of other creators couldn't get in.
00:21:56.000 I think Aiden Ross got in as well.
00:21:58.000 It's gonna go crazy.
00:22:00.000 He flaked on Vitaly.
00:22:02.000 Oh, wow.
00:22:02.000 Yeah, bro.
00:22:03.000 I'm off the price.
00:22:03.000 Yeah, of course.
00:22:05.000 But it's what it is.
00:22:05.000 Of course.
00:22:06.000 Go ahead, do you know my gentleman?
00:22:08.000 Yeah.
00:22:10.000 Must announce there's the DDoS.
00:22:11.000 Yep.
00:22:11.000 We know, guys.
00:22:12.000 It's not crazy, bro.
00:22:14.000 Like, the enemies are trying to, like, stop this from happening.
00:22:16.000 All the haters and all the Kamala Harris fans.
00:22:19.000 Bless you.
00:22:21.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:22:22.000 But, um...
00:22:23.000 So, we're in.
00:22:24.000 Basically, just to give people a bit of a background.
00:22:26.000 So, what...
00:22:28.000 Essentially...
00:22:30.000 Obviously, Twitter Spaces is quite new and they've grown significantly.
00:22:36.000 Twitter in itself is probably the number one social media platform for politics.
00:22:40.000 Absolutely.
00:22:41.000 Not even close.
00:22:41.000 Yeah, it's not even close, right?
00:22:43.000 You get interactions with a wide range of people.
00:22:46.000 The conversations are brilliant.
00:22:49.000 I mean, Twitter is the place to be for anything related to politics.
00:22:51.000 Now, in addition to that, you've got Twitter Spaces.
00:22:53.000 Twitter Spaces is a social media audio platform which basically enables people to engage Speak to each other through an audio platform.
00:23:03.000 Now, the social media spaces have been growing significantly.
00:23:08.000 I think Mario is one of the biggest ones who normally do spaces.
00:23:11.000 I think I'm quite up there as well when it comes to Twitter spaces.
00:23:14.000 Mario has jumped onto Twitter spaces as well.
00:23:16.000 And so you've basically got Twitter spaces.
00:23:18.000 Now what's happened in the past is Elon Musk has done major interviews on Twitter spaces.
00:23:24.000 One remembers when Ron DeSantis announced for the very first time he came on Twitter spaces to announce...
00:23:31.000 And it crashed then too, right?
00:23:33.000 It crashed initially.
00:23:35.000 So initially it crashed because what happened was they tried to do it on Elon's profile and it crashed.
00:23:41.000 They then changed it and they did it on...
00:23:44.000 What's the guy's name now?
00:23:47.000 Anyway, it's one of Elon's guys.
00:23:49.000 Did it on his platform and then it worked.
00:23:53.000 But even though it worked, even at that time, what happened was it got to a certain number, then a lot of people didn't have the ability to join the space, and then Mario had to run a concurrent space, and everybody joined that, and that actually ended up being bigger than the actual Ron DeSantis space.
00:24:06.000 So that was me and Mario running that concurrent space.
00:24:09.000 Now...
00:24:10.000 Everyone was concerned that this space was going to be huge.
00:24:14.000 Ten times probably bigger.
00:24:16.000 I was predicting 100,000 to 200.
00:24:18.000 It's a million.
00:24:19.000 Yeah, I was thinking like 500k, right?
00:24:22.000 Because the Ron DeSantis one hit 150k, I think.
00:24:25.000 And then on Mario's platform, I think there was about...
00:24:27.000 I think between the two platforms, there was about 250 to 200k live.
00:24:31.000 I mean, it's Donald Trump.
00:24:33.000 Donald Trump's going to be huge.
00:24:34.000 So I was thinking there's going to be problems.
00:24:37.000 They were stress testing for the last two days.
00:24:40.000 So today they did a stress test and they had two million people join and then three million.
00:24:44.000 So they kind of thought the stress test is working.
00:24:46.000 We're going to start blowing up right now.
00:24:47.000 I put it on X that we're live right now.
00:24:49.000 I think you can never really kind of foresee who's going to join, how many people are going to be on the space.
00:24:53.000 So there's a lot of people on the space right now.
00:24:55.000 So I get it.
00:24:56.000 I'll tell you this.
00:24:56.000 Twitter space is by far one of the...
00:24:58.000 It's like Clubhouse, but way better and less black.
00:25:01.000 I was going to say, it's the new Clubhouse.
00:25:02.000 Yeah.
00:25:03.000 Yeah, less black.
00:25:04.000 That is true, bro.
00:25:06.000 Bunch of thug niggas in there.
00:25:07.000 Yeah, so it's just way better and it's just higher IQ conversations.
00:25:10.000 I hosted so many debates on there.
00:25:13.000 Me and Suleiman have hosted a bunch of debates with people debating topics.
00:25:19.000 A wide range of topics.
00:25:21.000 A wide range of topics.
00:25:22.000 Like Gary was in there debating yesterday.
00:25:25.000 But yeah, guys, we are in the space.
00:25:26.000 Y'all can see it right there.
00:25:27.000 Shout out to Bills, man, showing you guys on screen what's going on.
00:25:30.000 We are in there.
00:25:31.000 We just have it muted.
00:25:33.000 Because of the music.
00:25:34.000 Because of the music, right?
00:25:35.000 So for those of you guys that are joining, you can see right there that we are in fact in there.
00:25:38.000 You can hear the dumb music.
00:25:39.000 It's like if you're in a hotel lobby.
00:25:41.000 I said that they tested the system with 8 million concurrent listeners earlier today.
00:25:48.000 I saw the one when they did 3 million.
00:25:49.000 So they tested it thinking it's going to be okay.
00:25:51.000 I kind of had this thing that maybe it's not going to be in anyone who runs a concurrent space is probably going to do well.
00:25:57.000 But then what's happened is apparently Elon is claiming that there was a DDoS attack.
00:26:03.000 Which is causing problems on the space.
00:26:04.000 And so because Myron's crew and Fresh's crew, Fresh of its crew, are one of the few people who are in there, you're going to be able to hear it through this.
00:26:12.000 Actually, Bills, how fast?
00:26:13.000 Because Bills is actually...
00:26:14.000 I'm not even in there.
00:26:15.000 I couldn't even get on my account.
00:26:16.000 Salaman could get on his account.
00:26:17.000 Bills got in on his troll account.
00:26:19.000 As you can see here, he has the Turkish shooter.
00:26:21.000 When did you join?
00:26:23.000 How long ago did you join?
00:26:30.000 We're probably talking like 7.45?
00:26:33.000 Oh wow, y'all just made it.
00:26:35.000 Well actually, someone said that it was live and then I just jumped in the moment it was live.
00:26:40.000 The minute The minute he went live on the space, Bill's got in.
00:26:46.000 So right now, as we speak, is 500k in there right now?
00:26:49.000 500k in there?
00:26:50.000 Oh, so it means it might be working then.
00:26:52.000 Let me see.
00:26:54.000 Is yours still...
00:26:55.000 I mean, I could try.
00:26:57.000 Let me try and join this one first, then we'll know if it's...
00:27:00.000 I'm in!
00:27:01.000 You're in?
00:27:02.000 I'm in!
00:27:02.000 Look!
00:27:03.000 Join!
00:27:04.000 Are you guys in?
00:27:07.000 Alright, join too!
00:27:08.000 Yeah, yeah, so it's working now.
00:27:09.000 Alright, good, now it's working now.
00:27:10.000 Let's go!
00:27:12.000 Live on air!
00:27:14.000 So that's 550 people at the moment.
00:27:15.000 They're making sure they have this shit fixed before they do anything.
00:27:20.000 Yeah, they said they're going live at 8.30.
00:27:22.000 At 8.30 now?
00:27:24.000 Okay, well it is 8.31.
00:27:26.000 They see a bunch of niggas in here, man.
00:27:27.000 What's going on?
00:27:28.000 Well, that's because those are your friends.
00:27:31.000 I'm just kidding.
00:27:32.000 I'm just kidding.
00:27:34.000 That's us, man.
00:27:35.000 Come on, man.
00:27:38.000 Anyhow, so when are you going to start, bro?
00:27:42.000 Yeah, I see 612.
00:27:43.000 Yeah, now starting to climb.
00:27:44.000 So should we...
00:27:47.000 Wait.
00:27:48.000 Should I open a backup one on the computer?
00:27:52.000 Should I do that?
00:27:53.000 Might as well.
00:27:57.000 So actually, Mo, you got it?
00:28:00.000 Go ahead, Mo, you can talk.
00:28:01.000 No, Mo's doing something behind the scenes for us.
00:28:04.000 Yeah, I would do it.
00:28:05.000 I would open a space and join it.
00:28:07.000 Just in case, there is glitches.
00:28:09.000 It may not be, but if there is, then they've got somewhere to go.
00:28:12.000 Mmm, okay.
00:28:15.000 You can still see what?
00:28:16.000 We can get word from our sponsor while we wait.
00:28:19.000 Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
00:28:20.000 Just knock it out real fast.
00:28:21.000 Because once it starts, we don't want to stop it.
00:28:24.000 Awesome.
00:28:25.000 Alright, just go ahead and hit it while I do this thing right here.
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00:28:30.000 And then we're not going to do another one for the rest of the show.
00:28:32.000 Hold on, one second, one second.
00:28:34.000 I'm going to go jump on this face.
00:28:36.000 One second, one second, one second.
00:28:39.000 But yeah, I was in Barbados chilling, bro.
00:28:41.000 And I thought to myself, let me go on X and see what's happening.
00:28:45.000 Then I see the beginning of World War III. I'm like, bro, I'm going to join these coconuts, man.
00:28:49.000 World War II M, bro.
00:28:50.000 Goddamn.
00:28:51.000 He's chilling in Barbados with some chicks while the world is ending.
00:28:54.000 Wow.
00:28:54.000 Wait, how'd you know that?
00:28:56.000 How'd you see that?
00:28:59.000 You watched my YouTube?
00:29:01.000 Nah, I don't watch YouTube.
00:29:02.000 I just assumed you were doing that.
00:29:03.000 You were right, bro.
00:29:04.000 You've got a bit of a repetition.
00:29:05.000 Oh, God.
00:29:06.000 Listen, man, you know what it is, bro?
00:29:07.000 It's like, the world's ending.
00:29:10.000 I want to enjoy it a little bit before it ends, bro.
00:29:12.000 That's all.
00:29:14.000 Yeah, yeah, that is...
00:29:15.000 But we should be right when we go out first, though, because that's more important.
00:29:19.000 Definitely.
00:29:20.000 Yeah.
00:29:20.000 Are you reading?
00:29:21.000 Are you going to read all that?
00:29:23.000 Oh no, my friend.
00:29:24.000 Listen.
00:29:25.000 I literally, bro, can only read so much.
00:29:31.000 This is going to be Mo reading this.
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00:29:34.000 Mo, come on.
00:29:34.000 Let's do it, bro.
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00:32:08.000 Okay.
00:32:08.000 Is it live?
00:32:10.000 No, I mean the Trump interview.
00:32:12.000 Guys, we're live.
00:32:13.000 The space is live, guys.
00:32:17.000 Can we hear it?
00:32:18.000 Can we see?
00:32:20.000 Let me see my phone.
00:32:24.000 Hold on.
00:32:24.000 No, Trump is muted himself.
00:32:27.000 Yeah, it's muted.
00:32:29.000 We're all in the same space though, right?
00:32:31.000 Yeah.
00:32:31.000 Yeah, okay, so the chat was tripping.
00:32:32.000 Do you hear anything?
00:32:33.000 Nah, forget y'all chat.
00:32:36.000 Yeah, it's muted.
00:32:37.000 It's muted.
00:32:37.000 Trump is muted.
00:32:38.000 Trump's background music is muted.
00:32:40.000 And the chat's going up.
00:32:41.000 Okay.
00:32:42.000 Shout out to Upside.
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00:32:45.000 Shout out to Upside.
00:32:48.000 So, Trump muted himself.
00:32:50.000 Muted himself?
00:32:51.000 And we're just waiting right now.
00:32:52.000 Right now, it's tech savvy.
00:33:02.000 Okay.
00:33:02.000 When is Sean going to debate Kamala?
00:33:04.000 What was that, sorry?
00:33:05.000 September?
00:33:06.000 September?
00:33:07.000 He's going to debate Kamala?
00:33:07.000 Yeah, that's right, yeah.
00:33:09.000 Apparently she's refusing to debate on Fox, which is obviously a pro-Republican channel.
00:33:14.000 So then they're going to do the debate on ABC, I believe.
00:33:18.000 What is she going to debate?
00:33:19.000 Yo, did you see Stephen Crowder's apology video?
00:33:21.000 He was trolling.
00:33:22.000 Yeah, I know.
00:33:23.000 It was hilarious, though.
00:33:24.000 I thought he was serious at first.
00:33:25.000 Then he threw it in the garbage.
00:33:27.000 Yeah.
00:33:28.000 So yeah, just still having sound issues?
00:33:30.000 No, he's muted.
00:33:32.000 Trump muted himself?
00:33:33.000 Yeah, right now, yeah.
00:33:33.000 Yeah, so he must have, like, accidentally unmuted the music and then he's just gone silent.
00:33:40.000 Our computer audio is unmuted.
00:33:42.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:33:43.000 So he's, okay, yeah.
00:33:46.000 Interesting, interesting.
00:33:48.000 Also, Tate is live, too, I believe.
00:33:50.000 On Rumble?
00:33:51.000 Yeah, he's also live.
00:33:53.000 Shit.
00:33:54.000 Haram!
00:34:03.000 Okay.
00:34:03.000 I mean, what Elon Musk said was that it's not even going to be an interview, it's going to be a conversation.
00:34:07.000 I mean, it seems like it's not going to be very much structured.
00:34:11.000 It's going to be interesting how they go about saying certain things and what areas they cover.
00:34:19.000 They're essentially going to focus on things that are going to benefit them the most.
00:34:22.000 I doubt they'll talk about foreign policy that much then, will they?
00:34:25.000 Probably not.
00:34:27.000 Probably not, which I think is one of the most important...
00:34:29.000 I think is the most important issue this election, personally.
00:34:35.000 Yeah, definitely, because people are concerned about world war, right?
00:34:37.000 Predictions on who's going to win.
00:34:39.000 Shoot.
00:34:40.000 I think Trump's going to win, yeah.
00:34:41.000 Think so?
00:34:42.000 Yeah.
00:34:43.000 What do you think, Maren?
00:34:46.000 Well, the campaign needs help.
00:34:48.000 If he doesn't fix what's going on, they're not going to win.
00:34:52.000 I want Trump to win, but in my knowledge of what's happening, Kamala got it.
00:34:57.000 Because people are going to vote for a woman, and they're going to vote for a black, and they're going to vote for freedom of men.
00:35:03.000 So I'll be honest with you.
00:35:04.000 I don't think any of the elections are legit, right?
00:35:08.000 Thank you.
00:35:08.000 So if none of the elections are legit, if every single election is basically decided rather than voted on, then the question becomes who have their...
00:35:18.000 Chosen, whoever they may be.
00:35:20.000 The military, industrial complex, the deep state, whatever terminology or word you want to use.
00:35:24.000 I mean, you guys know what word I use for that.
00:35:25.000 But coming back to it, so who have they chosen?
00:35:29.000 What we've seen is Silicon Valley...
00:35:31.000 We've seen all of the billionaire donors, Bill Ackman, all of them being liberal for a very long time, supporting the Democrat candidate, have all switched in unison after what happened on October the 7th.
00:35:46.000 And as soon as the university protests happened, you saw these people really almost be shook and almost conglomerate, Basically merge together and go towards a different candidate.
00:36:00.000 That was Trump.
00:36:01.000 And so you've seen these billionaire donors.
00:36:03.000 You've seen these rich people who all...
00:36:06.000 And Silicon Valley guys, all of them go towards Trump.
00:36:09.000 So that kind of gives me an indication amongst other things that I think Trump's the guy.
00:36:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:36:13.000 Yeah, well, I mean...
00:36:16.000 And I think that's a big reason why he brought Vance on.
00:36:20.000 I think that's a huge reason why he brought J.D. Vance on was because of those Silicon Valley connects and everything else like that.
00:36:25.000 Without a shadow of a doubt.
00:36:26.000 But who's advising Trump?
00:36:27.000 Because I don't know what's happening with bringing out Amber Rose, but that was some other people.
00:36:31.000 It's his campaign guy.
00:36:32.000 His name is Chris something.
00:36:33.000 Hold on, let me look it up.
00:36:34.000 Does he need help from us, bro?
00:36:35.000 We got a sauce, man.
00:36:36.000 We know what's happening in the culture because them niggas is not it, bro.
00:36:39.000 Sorry, Lil Pump is cool, but that niggas is not it.
00:36:41.000 Amber Rose is old, man.
00:36:42.000 Y'all niggas need help, bro.
00:36:44.000 Yo.
00:36:44.000 I'm just saying, bro.
00:36:46.000 Yeah, they said something about he was going to do a diss song of Kamala Harris at a rally.
00:36:49.000 Who cares?
00:36:50.000 Bro.
00:36:51.000 Bro.
00:36:52.000 The only song I know from him that's still relevant now is, she's such a fucking hoe.
00:36:55.000 Yeah.
00:36:56.000 I love it.
00:36:56.000 Yeah.
00:36:58.000 Yeah.
00:36:58.000 Other than that, nigga, who are you?
00:37:00.000 Come on, bro.
00:37:01.000 Yeah.
00:37:01.000 Les Sativa, Savita, Chris Lesavita, is one of the main campaign managers.
00:37:10.000 So, yeah, dude.
00:37:12.000 Here's the thing, right?
00:37:15.000 And this is what the Democrats have always been.
00:37:17.000 I talked about this on Twitter.
00:37:18.000 I don't think I've talked about this with you guys here on YouTube yet.
00:37:21.000 The Democrats are a lot better at being cool, right?
00:37:25.000 If you look at their campaign now, they're weird, right?
00:37:30.000 They bring on more relevant people.
00:37:32.000 Though we make fun of Meg Thee Stallion all the time.
00:37:35.000 Say she's a loser and degenerate.
00:37:36.000 Hello, everyone.
00:37:37.000 So, my apologies for the late start.
00:37:40.000 We unfortunately had a massive distributed denial of service attack against our servers.
00:37:46.000 And saturated all of our data lines, like...
00:37:52.000 Basically, hundreds of gigabytes of data were saturated.
00:37:56.000 We think we've overcome most of that, and so it's not time to proceed.
00:38:03.000 But as this massive attack illustrates, there's A lot of opposition to people just hearing what President Trump has to say.
00:38:15.000 But I'm honored to have this conversation.
00:38:18.000 I want to emphasize it's a conversation.
00:38:21.000 And it's really intended to just get a feel for What Donald Trump is just like in a conversation.
00:38:29.000 It's hard to catch a vibe about someone if you just don't hear them talk in a normal way.
00:38:34.000 And when there's an adversarial interview, it's like no one's themselves in an adversarial interview.
00:38:42.000 And this is really aimed at kind of open-minded, independent voters who are just trying to make up their mind.
00:38:54.000 And so you can understand what is it just like to have a conversation.
00:39:02.000 Donald, great to speak.
00:39:07.000 We had a great conversation yesterday.
00:39:10.000 As you mentioned yesterday, if we could just record that conversation and post it, it would have been excellent.
00:39:15.000 I hope we can have something like that today.
00:39:18.000 Well, I think we will.
00:39:19.000 I'm pretty sure we will.
00:39:21.000 And congratulations, because I see you broke every record in the book with so many millions of people.
00:39:27.000 And it's an honor.
00:39:28.000 We view that as an honor.
00:39:30.000 And then you do want silencing of certain voices.
00:39:33.000 Usually those are voices that Have something to say that are constructive, oftentimes constructive.
00:39:40.000 And so we have to consider it an honor.
00:39:42.000 But congratulations on breaking every record in the book tonight.
00:39:46.000 That's great.
00:39:47.000 Well, thank you.
00:39:48.000 Well, maybe we could start off with...
00:39:53.000 I mean, the assassination attempt, which was an incredible thing, and I have to say that your actions after that assassination attempt were inspiring.
00:40:06.000 You know, instead of shying away from things, instead of ducking down, you were pumping your fist in the air and saying, fight, fight, fight.
00:40:14.000 And I think that's, I mean, the President of the United States represents America, and I think that is, That is America.
00:40:24.000 That is strength under fire.
00:40:26.000 I can't interview Trump.
00:40:27.000 And so that's, you know, part of the reason why I was excited to endorse you as the President of the United States for having another term here is that was just incredibly inspiring.
00:40:43.000 But I mean, what was it like for you?
00:40:47.000 Not pleasant.
00:40:50.000 I said it was blood.
00:40:52.000 I didn't know I had that much blood.
00:40:56.000 The doctors later told me that the ear is a place that is a very bloody place if you're going to get hit.
00:41:04.000 But in this case, it was probably the best alternative you could even think about because it went at the right angle and, you know, it was...
00:41:13.000 It was a hard hit.
00:41:14.000 It was very, I guess you would say surreal, but it wasn't surreal.
00:41:18.000 You know, I was telling somebody, you have instances like this or like a lot less than this, where you feel it's a surreal situation.
00:41:28.000 And I never felt that way.
00:41:29.000 I knew immediately that it was a bullet.
00:41:33.000 I knew immediately that it was at the ear.
00:41:37.000 Yeah.
00:41:37.000 And because it, you know, it hit very hard, but hit the ear.
00:41:41.000 And I also heard people shout, bullets, bullets, you know, get down, get down, because I, you know, I moved down pretty nicely, pretty quickly, and we had bullets flying right over my head after I went down, so I'm glad I went down.
00:41:55.000 The bigger miracle was that I was looking in the exact direction of the shooter, and so it hit me at an angle that was...
00:42:03.000 Far less destructive than any other angle.
00:42:05.000 So that was the miracle.
00:42:07.000 For those who don't believe in God, I think we've got to all start thinking about that.
00:42:14.000 I'm a believer.
00:42:15.000 Now I'm more of a believer, I think.
00:42:17.000 And a lot of people have said that to me.
00:42:18.000 A lot of great people have said that to me, actually.
00:42:21.000 But it was amazing that I happened to be turned just at that perfect angle.
00:42:27.000 And all because I put down a chart on immigration that showed that the numbers were so great.
00:42:32.000 I love that chart even more now than I love it.
00:42:35.000 Maybe it's a sign.
00:42:36.000 Maybe that's a sign, you know.
00:42:37.000 It's an immigration sign.
00:42:39.000 You highlighted a serious issue at that moment.
00:42:44.000 The bullet, Mr.
00:42:45.000 You know, here you are, but you know, Mr.
00:42:48.000 Well, the amazing thing is that the sign, I said, bring down that sign on immigration, and It was literally about an eighth of a second where it would be good, and after that it was going to be a disaster no matter which way you were facing.
00:43:04.000 But it just had that perfect angle, which was exactly at this shooter.
00:43:10.000 Very sad situation.
00:43:12.000 Such a sad situation.
00:43:13.000 As you know, we lost somebody that was great, Corey, a firefighter, a great gentleman, a great trupper.
00:43:21.000 He was a firefighter.
00:43:26.000 We're good to go.
00:43:42.000 She said, this is really nice, but I'd rather have my husband back, which is a nice thing for somebody to say, to be honest.
00:43:48.000 She's great.
00:43:49.000 The family is great.
00:43:50.000 And we raised a lot of money for them and for two other gentlemen who are unbelievable people also.
00:43:57.000 They were hit really badly.
00:43:58.000 They thought they were not going to make it, and they did.
00:44:00.000 The doctors in the Butler area, I tell you, they were incredible.
00:44:04.000 They saved the two.
00:44:06.000 And they were really hit tough.
00:44:09.000 Both of them.
00:44:09.000 Equal.
00:44:11.000 And we thought...
00:44:12.000 My first question was because I heard bullets flying over me.
00:44:16.000 I said, how many people were killed?
00:44:17.000 Because we had a massive crowd there.
00:44:19.000 A tremendous...
00:44:20.000 Thousands and thousands of people.
00:44:22.000 And there was no land.
00:44:23.000 I mean, it was all people.
00:44:25.000 So I said, how many people have been killed?
00:44:27.000 Because I knew there were other shots being fired.
00:44:30.000 And they said, we don't know yet, but some people have been badly hurt.
00:44:36.000 And I have to give the Secret Service sniper, they call him, or sharpshooter, but sniper, because he didn't know There was a problem.
00:44:47.000 He's an extraordinary shot, obviously.
00:44:50.000 And he didn't know there was a problem.
00:44:51.000 And he was able to pick and roll out within five seconds.
00:44:54.000 And he used one bullet from very far away, I guess probably about 400 yards.
00:44:59.000 The shooter was 130, but he was on the opposite side of the field and the podium.
00:45:07.000 And he saw the smoke and the flame from the gun.
00:45:12.000 Immediately recognized it and immediately took a shot.
00:45:16.000 And it was one perfect shot from very far away.
00:45:19.000 And if he if he didn't do that, Elon, he would have I mean, if he would have a lot of people, a lot more people have been could have been badly hurt and killed.
00:45:29.000 So I have to take my hat off to him because that's also surreal.
00:45:34.000 You know, you've been with them for 23 years and he's never had anything like this.
00:45:39.000 And all of a sudden he has to act, and it's a very tough thing to act and to be shooting somebody.
00:45:45.000 But he saw the gun, saw the smoke, saw the flame from the gun, very far away.
00:45:51.000 Obviously he has very good eyes, he's got very good vision, which I assume you have to have in that particular work.
00:45:57.000 But he took aim very quickly, and they say it was approximately five seconds from long range, one bullet.
00:46:06.000 That didn't happen because the shooter had a lot of bullets.
00:46:09.000 He had a lot of cartridges up there with him.
00:46:14.000 He was very competent in taking that shot to stop the attempted assassination.
00:46:26.000 But there does seem to be some pretty significant failings elsewhere in the system.
00:46:32.000 There's just no way that...
00:46:33.000 Like, how on earth does a shooter get on a roof 130 yards away?
00:46:38.000 That seems crazy.
00:46:41.000 I think most people are wondering how on earth could such a thing happen.
00:46:45.000 Well, you know, I view it as two ways.
00:46:46.000 There should have been nobody on the roof.
00:46:48.000 There were people, because there were so many tens of thousands of people there.
00:46:52.000 There were people that were seeing him.
00:46:55.000 And there was one woman with a red shirt and Trump all over it and she's screaming.
00:47:03.000 Well, that guy's got a gun.
00:47:05.000 You know, you saw it probably.
00:47:07.000 There's a guy up there with a gun.
00:47:09.000 It's like, I'm just, I guess, I mean, for my part, and I think probably many members of the public are wondering how the heck are, you know, basically people wandering by pointing out there's a guy on the roof with a gun.
00:47:25.000 They're seeing it, but somehow it's not being addressed.
00:47:31.000 That does seem crazy.
00:47:32.000 Well, they're going to learn from this.
00:47:34.000 The communication between the local police, who sort of had an idea, and then ultimately a man lifted himself up to the roof, could barely do it because he was pulling himself up, and he saw the man with the gun.
00:47:49.000 The man with the gun pointed the gun at him.
00:47:51.000 He thought he was probably going to get shot, but he was pulling himself up, and because of that he couldn't get to his gun.
00:48:01.000 And he fell down, actually very badly hurt his leg, his ankle.
00:48:06.000 I hear very badly, but he fell down.
00:48:09.000 And he did, you know, from what I understand, he did say there's a guy up there with a gun.
00:48:14.000 And the shooting started very quickly after that.
00:48:18.000 I think it forced the shooter to go maybe quicker.
00:48:22.000 You know, you're supposed to be a very good shot.
00:48:24.000 My sons, Don and Eric, they can't believe what happened.
00:48:29.000 But they said from 130 yards, a bad shot would hit that target almost every time.
00:48:36.000 They said it's like in golf, thinking a two-foot putt.
00:48:39.000 Yeah, it's not a top shot.
00:48:41.000 It's not a long shot.
00:48:43.000 The Secret Service person had the long shot.
00:48:46.000 He had, you know, triple the distance, actually.
00:48:49.000 So, you know, it was a terrible thing.
00:48:54.000 Look, it's hard.
00:48:56.000 I have to say this about the Secret Service.
00:48:58.000 When I went down, and, you know, I went down based on, I think, their screaming, but other people also, because people saw this happen.
00:49:07.000 You know, you had so many One of the miracles was that nobody ran.
00:49:11.000 I mean, if a gun goes off, the craft control people showed us this.
00:49:16.000 When guns go off, and it does happen in stadiums, in a soccer match, or some kind of a match, everybody flees.
00:49:22.000 They call it a stampede, like cattle.
00:49:25.000 And a lot of people get killed with those stampedes.
00:49:28.000 We had more people than you'd have at...
00:49:30.000 You know, some of these matches or these games and nobody left.
00:49:35.000 You know, you had a small group behind us in the grandstand and that was fall and you look at it as it was taking place and normally they'd be running.
00:49:46.000 They didn't leave.
00:49:46.000 They saw that I was hurt.
00:49:48.000 They saw a lot of blood and they saw that I went down.
00:49:52.000 And it's almost like they wanted to be with me.
00:49:55.000 Well, out front, you had thousands, tens of thousands of people.
00:49:59.000 As far as the eye could see, you had people in Butler.
00:50:01.000 As far as the eye could see.
00:50:03.000 And a lot of press, too.
00:50:06.000 There were many cameras watching this.
00:50:09.000 It's what makes it so different, because normally things happen that aren't good, but you never have a picture of it.
00:50:15.000 Here we have all these cameras shooting it.
00:50:17.000 So, you know, sort of amazing.
00:50:19.000 But one of the interesting things was that you didn't have anybody flee.
00:50:24.000 You didn't have anybody stampede.
00:50:25.000 Nobody.
00:50:26.000 And there were some people behind me.
00:50:28.000 They stood up and they're looking like, you know, I mean, I'll tell you, you want to have them in a foxhole with you.
00:50:33.000 I want to meet some of those people.
00:50:35.000 Because it's so different from what you heard.
00:50:37.000 So I was down.
00:50:39.000 But the Secret Service guys, there were bullets flying right over my head.
00:50:43.000 You could hear them go whizzing.
00:50:44.000 And these guys...
00:50:47.000 Came jumping on top of me.
00:50:49.000 And a young lady, Kate, would jump.
00:50:53.000 They moved so fast.
00:50:55.000 And let me tell you, that took tremendous courage.
00:50:57.000 Now, there was a lack of coordination.
00:50:58.000 I know this is important.
00:51:01.000 Obviously, everybody understands that that building should have been covered.
00:51:06.000 Hmm.
00:51:07.000 That was the big thing.
00:51:09.000 I mean, looking at the aerial views, that building would be like the number one spot for a sniper.
00:51:14.000 It's like, if you were to pick, like, what is the favorite place?
00:51:18.000 So if the goal is to assassinate, what's your favorite spot for that building?
00:51:22.000 That building would be number one.
00:51:23.000 That would have been the spot.
00:51:24.000 It's like, you couldn't ask for a better location.
00:51:26.000 No, that would have been the spot.
00:51:28.000 You know what people think is when the local policeman, who, by the way, you know, he really, he did what he was supposed to do.
00:51:36.000 He couldn't hold on any longer.
00:51:38.000 And then when he got his head just peeking above, this guy standing there with a gun at his head, and when he fell down, again, hurt his ankle very badly, but he was making the calls.
00:51:49.000 But what happened is the firing took place very soon.
00:51:52.000 So what they think is that this guy ran to his sight, Yeah,
00:52:09.000 but as you say, he would have hit.
00:52:15.000 But he totally would have hit if you hadn't turned your head.
00:52:18.000 It was a very near thing.
00:52:22.000 It was a miracle.
00:52:23.000 If I hadn't turned my head, I would not be talking to you right now.
00:52:26.000 As much as I like you, I would not be talking to you.
00:52:30.000 You'd be talking to me from another realm.
00:52:32.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:52:33.000 We'd be talking from a different place.
00:52:36.000 But it was a very terrible experience.
00:52:41.000 The Butler Hospital, they did such a great job.
00:52:45.000 Yeah.
00:52:46.000 Yeah.
00:52:47.000 Yeah.
00:53:04.000 I think over 300.
00:53:06.000 I think I did a lot more than that.
00:53:07.000 But we did a lot.
00:53:08.000 And oftentimes they'll say, sir, could you wait 10 minutes, please?
00:53:11.000 Sir, could you wait 20 minutes?
00:53:12.000 There's a storm overhead or lightning or something, right?
00:53:15.000 And that happens often.
00:53:17.000 And this would have been a perfect time for that to have happened.
00:53:20.000 But it didn't get coordinated.
00:53:22.000 That was the problem.
00:53:27.000 Well, I think your actions in the heat of fire, what I find admirable there was that you can't fake bravery under such circumstances.
00:53:40.000 The courage is instinctual or it is not.
00:53:42.000 It's not a rehearsed action.
00:53:44.000 And so I just want to say that I think a lot of people admire your courage under fire there.
00:53:49.000 Thank you very much.
00:53:51.000 I appreciate it.
00:53:52.000 I didn't think of it.
00:53:54.000 I just wanted to get up.
00:53:55.000 And I wanted to stand up.
00:53:57.000 I wanted to let people know, you know, I felt I was good.
00:54:00.000 When they were on top of me, covering me actually, very much covering me and very bravely, but I wanted to get up.
00:54:07.000 I said, I want to get up.
00:54:10.000 They wanted, you know, they have everything there.
00:54:14.000 They wanted stretcher.
00:54:15.000 I didn't like the stretcher.
00:54:16.000 And I knew I was hit in the air, but I knew I wasn't hit anywhere else.
00:54:19.000 They felt I was hit someplace else.
00:54:21.000 It was such a lot of blood.
00:54:23.000 And they were sure that I was hit someplace else.
00:54:25.000 And they were saying, sir, you were hit in more than the air.
00:54:29.000 I said, nope, I was hit in the air.
00:54:31.000 I want to get up.
00:54:32.000 Let me get up.
00:54:33.000 And so I got up.
00:54:36.000 And the crowd didn't know what to think.
00:54:38.000 I mean, this was so...
00:54:39.000 So many people, and you could see they were confused.
00:54:42.000 They didn't know what to think.
00:54:44.000 And I wanted to let them know I was okay.
00:54:47.000 It was very important for me to let them know that.
00:54:49.000 And they went wild.
00:54:51.000 They didn't go wild when I got up because they didn't know was I alive.
00:54:57.000 You really couldn't tell.
00:54:58.000 When I stood up before the hand, before the fist in the air, they didn't know if I was alive.
00:55:06.000 Nobody did.
00:55:07.000 And...
00:55:08.000 When I put the fist up, they were just relieved and happy and thrilled.
00:55:15.000 The place went crazy.
00:55:17.000 It was pretty amazing.
00:55:19.000 It was a terrible thing.
00:55:21.000 It was incredibly moving.
00:55:24.000 Well, and I mean, speaking of the sort of slide that got you to turn, that saved your life, really, was the illegal immigration slide.
00:55:34.000 What is he a billionaire, though?
00:55:36.000 Billionaire.
00:55:37.000 Maybe we're talking about that.
00:55:40.000 That slide says save your life.
00:55:43.000 You're right.
00:55:43.000 The illegal immigration saved my life.
00:55:45.000 You're right, but it had to be at that exact angle.
00:55:49.000 I mean, that's the fair way.
00:55:51.000 You know, the incredible thing, though, when you talk about the odds, you had to be exactly at that angle.
00:55:58.000 But the incredible thing is that the chart, I used it less than 20% of the time.
00:56:04.000 It was just a moment.
00:56:06.000 It's always on my left, never my right.
00:56:08.000 And it's always at the end of the speech.
00:56:11.000 So here we have it.
00:56:12.000 It's on the right, not the left.
00:56:14.000 It's at the beginning, not the end.
00:56:17.000 And even the people that put it up, they were unprepared, and they did a great job.
00:56:20.000 They got it up immediately, fortunately.
00:56:23.000 But I looked to the right, and the bullet came whizzing by, hitting my ear.
00:56:30.000 So it was amazing.
00:56:31.000 But when you think of the odds of that, normally you wouldn't use it.
00:56:37.000 Normally I wouldn't have the thing, and then it would have been a very different story.
00:56:41.000 It's very much...
00:56:43.000 I say an act of God, it's a miracle that it happened, and I'm honored by it.
00:56:50.000 I'm honored by it.
00:56:52.000 Well...
00:56:54.000 Well, what were you about to say about illegal immigration before you were rudely interrupted?
00:56:59.000 Well, I was going to say how good the numbers were.
00:57:01.000 By the way, we're going back to Butler, and we're going to go back in October.
00:57:06.000 We're all set up, and the people are fantastic in Butler.
00:57:10.000 It's a great area.
00:57:12.000 These are incredible people.
00:57:14.000 Like the three that, in the case of Corey Kilden, the other two, the families are, I get to know them a little bit.
00:57:21.000 Mental fortitude.
00:57:22.000 The families are great, but we're going back to Butler, and I think I'll probably start by saying, as I was saying, prior to being so horribly interrupted, but...
00:57:34.000 Yeah, so rudely interrupted by an assassination attempt.
00:57:39.000 No, but the chart...
00:57:40.000 Some people have no manners.
00:57:41.000 Elon, the chart was just a chart that in my last week we had the best...
00:57:54.000 I mean, I was very proud of those numbers.
00:58:01.000 And then you see what happened with these people, Kamala and Joe.
00:58:05.000 You see what happened.
00:58:07.000 They just let it go.
00:58:09.000 I had Remain in Mexico policies.
00:58:12.000 I had all these different policies that were so good.
00:58:15.000 Guys like Tom Holman and Brandon Judd from Border Patrol.
00:58:20.000 These are all people that they've been on television.
00:58:23.000 They say it's the best numbers we've ever had.
00:58:25.000 We had so many different checks.
00:58:26.000 Catch and release in Mexico, not the United States.
00:58:29.000 We had catch and release in the United States.
00:58:31.000 We had it in Mexico.
00:58:32.000 We had so many things.
00:58:33.000 We had...
00:58:34.000 Things where if people, many people come in there, they have contagious diseases.
00:58:39.000 We had everything passed.
00:58:41.000 If you have a contagious disease, I'm sorry, but we cannot allow you into the country.
00:58:46.000 So we were setting literally records, and all I was doing is showing that, and I use it sometimes.
00:58:55.000 And in this case, I'm glad I used it, I can tell you that.
00:58:59.000 But they were fantastic numbers.
00:59:01.000 But I'm going to sleep with that chart always.
00:59:03.000 I'll be sleeping with that chart.
00:59:05.000 That chart was...
00:59:07.000 It was very important.
00:59:08.000 Very important.
00:59:09.000 For a lot of reasons.
00:59:11.000 Would it be accurate to say that you're supportive of legal immigration, but that we obviously need to shut down illegal immigration, especially unvetted illegal immigration?
00:59:25.000 That's not the same as saying that everyone who's an illegal immigrant is bad.
00:59:30.000 I think most people who are illegal immigrants are actually good, but you can't tell the difference unless there's a solid betting of who comes across the border.
00:59:38.000 Does that actually represent your position?
00:59:41.000 I say it very simply.
00:59:43.000 They have to come in legally.
00:59:44.000 They have to be checked.
00:59:48.000 Kamala was the border zone.
00:59:49.000 Now she's denying it.
00:59:50.000 Everything that I do, she's saying she was strong on the border.
00:59:55.000 We're going to be strong.
00:59:56.000 Well, she doesn't have to say it.
00:59:58.000 She could close it up right now.
00:59:59.000 They could do things right now.
01:00:01.000 It's horrible.
01:00:03.000 No tax on tips.
01:00:04.000 And all of a sudden she's making a speech and there will be no tax on tips.
01:00:07.000 I said that months ago.
01:00:09.000 And by the way, they had just the opposite.
01:00:11.000 You know, they had not only tax on tips, but they hired 88,000 IRS agents.
01:00:17.000 And many of them were assigned to go get waitresses and caddies and all of this on tips.
01:00:23.000 They have a policy.
01:00:24.000 They had a policy.
01:00:25.000 They were really going to go after you and were really harassing people horribly.
01:00:30.000 And then all of a sudden for politics, she says, you know, she comes out with with what I said, which I think is terrible.
01:00:35.000 And I think it's also hitting them very hard.
01:00:38.000 These people are fake.
01:00:39.000 Now they're also saying they did a good job on the border.
01:00:41.000 We had the worst numbers in the history of the world, not of our country.
01:00:45.000 There's never been a country in history that has had a catastrophe like this.
01:00:49.000 We've had, I believe, and I think you believe this too, you know, you hear 12 million, 13 million.
01:00:54.000 I believe it's over 20 million people came into our country, many coming from jails, from prisons, from mental institutions, or a bigger version of that is insane asylums, and many are terrorists.
01:01:09.000 And I'll tell you what, they're coming not just from South America, they're coming from Africa, they're coming from all over the world.
01:01:14.000 They're coming from Asia, they're coming from the Middle East, they're coming from countries that are...
01:01:22.000 It's stupidly and horribly bombing Israel October 7th.
01:01:26.000 They're coming from all over the world.
01:01:28.000 And, you know, you look at, it's so sad, October 7th, because it should have never happened.
01:01:33.000 It's so sad when you look at Ukraine.
01:01:35.000 It should have never happened.
01:01:37.000 We have a defective government.
01:01:39.000 These are defective people.
01:01:40.000 And they're not people that should be running it.
01:01:42.000 But where you see it the best is the border.
01:01:45.000 Because you have millions of people coming in a month And then she gets up and she tries to pretend like she's going to do something.
01:01:54.000 She had three and a half years.
01:01:55.000 And by the way, they have another five months that they can do something, but they won't do anything.
01:02:00.000 It's all talk.
01:02:02.000 She's incompetent and he's incompetent.
01:02:04.000 And frankly, I think that she's more incompetent than he is.
01:02:07.000 And that's saying something because he's not too good.
01:02:11.000 I think it is essential to have a secure border.
01:02:17.000 I mean, you're really not a country unless you have a secure border.
01:02:21.000 And secure elections.
01:02:24.000 Absolutely.
01:02:25.000 Secure elections.
01:02:28.000 It's just essential to have a real border or we can't function as a country and our central services are being overwhelmed in a lot of cities.
01:02:39.000 As we were talking about earlier, I think having a legal immigration process that is We're good to go.
01:03:06.000 Let in people who are going to be great contributors to our society and to our economy.
01:03:14.000 And who do you want on the team?
01:03:18.000 And it's not to say that...
01:03:21.000 In my opinion, actually, I'd say probably most of the illegal immigrants actually are...
01:03:27.000 Actually good, hardworking people.
01:03:29.000 That's my opinion.
01:03:30.000 But some are not.
01:03:32.000 And you just have this sort of adverse selection process where, you know, if somebody's, you know, if somebody's like a You know, has a career in theft or robbery.
01:03:49.000 I don't understand what's taking them so long to get here, because we're such a target-rich environment.
01:03:56.000 I mean, you know, why aren't more people who have a career in You know, bad things coming here sooner because it's, I mean, it's a piece of cake to go rob, you know, houses in LA or New York compared to other parts of the world.
01:04:13.000 And in a lot of places in America, if you try to stop the person who's robbing you, you'll be arrested.
01:04:24.000 It's right.
01:04:24.000 I mean, what's happening with crime.
01:04:27.000 And our police are so good, but they're not allowed to do their job.
01:04:30.000 But I have to tell you, Ilan, I hate to say it, because it's such a downer to say it.
01:04:34.000 I hate to say it.
01:04:35.000 I hate it.
01:04:37.000 You have a lot of people that just shouldn't be.
01:04:39.000 I think it's a much bigger number than you think.
01:04:42.000 They're allowing people from their jails.
01:04:45.000 And if you were running one of these countries where they're coming from, you would have had all of them.
01:04:50.000 As an example, Venezuela, their crime is down 72%.
01:04:55.000 They're taking their drug dealers.
01:04:57.000 They're taking, frankly, their prisoners.
01:04:59.000 They're emptying out their prisons.
01:05:00.000 They're taking their criminals, their murderers.
01:05:03.000 They're rapists, and they're delivering them into...
01:05:06.000 That's what Castro did.
01:05:08.000 Yeah, well, he did, on a much smaller scale.
01:05:10.000 It was a much smaller scale.
01:05:12.000 But this is a massive scale, because this is being done worldwide.
01:05:15.000 But here's what's happening.
01:05:16.000 Crime, all over the world, is down.
01:05:20.000 And wait till you see the numbers that we have.
01:05:22.000 You know, this is migrant crime.
01:05:24.000 This is crime that's going to be...
01:05:26.000 And I saw it today in New York where somebody was knifed, where they raped the girlfriend of a man that stood there watching in New York in one of the shelters and started pulling out their knives and bad things happened today.
01:05:39.000 But this is happening every day.
01:05:41.000 These are rough people.
01:05:42.000 These are people that are in jail for murder and all sorts of things.
01:05:46.000 And they're releasing them into our country and they're telling them, if you come back, we're going to kill you.
01:05:51.000 We're going to give you the death penalty or kill you.
01:05:53.000 So they don't want to come back.
01:05:54.000 But these are rough people.
01:05:55.000 These are criminals that make our criminals look like nice people.
01:05:59.000 And it's horrible what they're doing.
01:06:01.000 And she's in charge of it because now she's trying to say she had nothing to do with it.
01:06:06.000 And she's such a liar because she was called the border czar the first day and it was on the headlines of every newspaper.
01:06:12.000 She's the border czar.
01:06:13.000 And she never even went there.
01:06:14.000 She went to one location which had nothing to do with where the problem is.
01:06:18.000 You know, she went in and out, I guess, because she was getting a lot of pressure, but had nothing to do with the problem.
01:06:23.000 But she was the border czar.
01:06:25.000 And people can't allow them to get away with their disinformation campaign.
01:06:30.000 Now she's trying to say that She wasn't really involved.
01:06:36.000 The whole thing is horrible.
01:06:37.000 She was totally in charge.
01:06:40.000 She could have shut the border down without him.
01:06:42.000 He didn't know what he was doing anyways.
01:06:43.000 He wouldn't have even known what happened.
01:06:45.000 You could shut the border down.
01:06:46.000 He wouldn't even know the difference.
01:06:48.000 But the fact is that she was border czar.
01:06:52.000 But you don't have to call her that.
01:06:54.000 The fact is you could just call her.
01:06:56.000 She was in charge of the border, and the border was the worst ever.
01:07:00.000 It's simply not working.
01:07:02.000 Whether it's a question of intention or competence, either way, we don't have a secure border and we have people streaming over like it looks like a World War Z zombie apocalypse at times.
01:07:19.000 And, you know, sometimes you've got to sort of wonder, like, is it real or not?
01:07:23.000 She's in charge of the border?
01:07:24.000 Yeah, because you see things, you're like, is it real?
01:07:26.000 So I went to the border at Eagle Pass, and I saw it for myself in Texas, and I was like, okay, it's real.
01:07:32.000 I'm, like, seeing this in real time.
01:07:33.000 I actually posted the video, like, just live.
01:07:35.000 I just flew there one day just to see, hey, is this made up or real?
01:07:40.000 And I'm just seeing people stream across the border.
01:07:43.000 And I have to say, you know, at least the people that I saw did not look friendly.
01:07:47.000 Yeah.
01:07:48.000 You know, so people can look at my video and say, hey, you know, these people look friendly.
01:07:53.000 I don't look super friendly.
01:07:55.000 These are people that Elon would not be the same man if he had to walk across the street and look these people in the eye.
01:08:01.000 These are rough people.
01:08:02.000 These are really rough people coming across.
01:08:04.000 And I know rough people.
01:08:06.000 And these are people that we don't want in our country.
01:08:09.000 And, you know, the caravans are coming in, and they're putting...
01:08:12.000 And who's doing this is the heads of the countries.
01:08:15.000 And you would be doing it, and so would I. And everyone would say, oh, what a terrible thing to say.
01:08:19.000 The fact is, it's brilliant for them, because they're taking all of their bad people, really bad people.
01:08:26.000 And I hate to say this, the reason the numbers are much bigger than you would think is they're also taking their nonproductive people.
01:08:34.000 Now, these aren't people that will kill you.
01:08:36.000 We have enough of them.
01:08:38.000 I think?
01:08:52.000 And they're also getting rid of their murderers and their drug dealers and the people that are really brutal people.
01:08:59.000 And they're coming into our country at levels that have never been seen before.
01:09:03.000 And I saw an ad just before I got on the air.
01:09:06.000 I'm walking over here.
01:09:08.000 And I saw an ad by Kamala saying how she is going to provide border security.
01:09:14.000 Where has she been for three and a half years?
01:09:16.000 For three and a half years.
01:09:17.000 We have 20 million people for it.
01:09:21.000 Frankly, I think this is a fundamental existential issue for the United States.
01:09:28.000 And if we have another four more years of open borders, and it's going to be even worse than it's been for the past three and a half years, I'm not sure we've got a country at that point.
01:09:42.000 Elon, if they get in, you will have 50 to 60 million people from all over the world, not South America only.
01:09:50.000 You know, we think of South America, we think of Honduras and El Salvador, Guatemala.
01:09:56.000 And Mexico, you know, the four.
01:09:58.000 But it's not that.
01:09:59.000 It's everywhere.
01:10:01.000 They're coming in from everywhere.
01:10:03.000 And I had to stay in Mexico.
01:10:05.000 This is a super important point.
01:10:07.000 Basically, when I went down there, I was like, well, where are people from?
01:10:11.000 It's like almost no one was from Mexico.
01:10:14.000 It's just the border with Mexico.
01:10:18.000 But the people coming in, it's Earth.
01:10:20.000 The rest of Earth.
01:10:23.000 And America is only about 4 or 5% of the population of Earth.
01:10:28.000 It would only take a few percent of the rest of Earth to overwhelm everything.
01:10:31.000 We're already overwhelmed, Ilan.
01:10:33.000 We're overwhelmed.
01:10:35.000 You had to see the news tonight about New York.
01:10:37.000 And I love that place.
01:10:39.000 And what they're doing to it is horrible, what they're doing to it.
01:10:43.000 And all the courts do is they try and focus on Trump.
01:10:45.000 Okay, let's focus on Trump.
01:10:47.000 Who did nothing wrong.
01:10:49.000 I complain about a rigged election.
01:10:51.000 Elon, what's happened is unbelievable.
01:10:53.000 You have, from Africa, from the Congo they're coming, from the Congo, and 22 people came in from the Congo recently, and they're murderers, and they drop them, they take them out of jails, which is very expensive, you know, to maintain the jails,
01:11:09.000 although they don't do too much maintaining, I can tell you.
01:11:12.000 But they take them out of jails, prisons.
01:11:14.000 They take them out and they bring them to the United States.
01:11:16.000 They deposit them in the United States and say, don't ever come back or you're going to be executed.
01:11:21.000 And they don't want to come back.
01:11:23.000 But they won't come back.
01:11:24.000 But they're coming from Africa.
01:11:26.000 They're coming from Asia.
01:11:29.000 They're coming from the Middle East.
01:11:30.000 They're coming from South America.
01:11:31.000 They're coming from everywhere.
01:11:33.000 And there are a lot of really bad ones.
01:11:35.000 It's just a...
01:11:37.000 It's just an everywhere on Earth thing, and it's just not possible for the United States to absorb everyone from Earth or even a few percent of the rest of Earth.
01:11:46.000 It's just not possible.
01:11:47.000 Well, Elon, we're going to have, just to finish this up, we're going to have the largest deportation in history of this country, and we have no choice.
01:11:57.000 Otherwise, we're going to have a country...
01:11:59.000 What they've done to our country.
01:12:02.000 Think of it.
01:12:03.000 In Venezuela and in some of these other countries, crime is down 50%, 60%, 70%, 80%.
01:12:10.000 And you would be the same.
01:12:13.000 I'll tell you what, Venezuela has not gotten rid of all of them.
01:12:16.000 They've gotten rid of about 70% of their really bad people.
01:12:19.000 Their jails are about 50% put into the United States.
01:12:24.000 Same with other countries.
01:12:25.000 Some are at 30%, some are at 50%.
01:12:27.000 They're all different.
01:12:28.000 But the bottom line is they're all going to be at 100%.
01:12:31.000 Why wouldn't you put 100% of them?
01:12:33.000 And they're doing it right now while this third-rate phony candidate...
01:12:40.000 I beat Biden.
01:12:42.000 He failed in the debate miserably.
01:12:45.000 And, you know, some people said, oh, gee, it's too bad.
01:12:48.000 It's too bad he did so badly.
01:12:49.000 Or I did well in the debate.
01:12:50.000 You know, the first night they said...
01:12:52.000 Wow.
01:12:53.000 One of the people at CNN said that was the greatest debate performance I've ever witnessed.
01:12:58.000 And then two days later, they didn't talk about that.
01:13:00.000 They just said he was bad.
01:13:01.000 But that's okay.
01:13:02.000 That's the way I get treated.
01:13:03.000 And I don't mind that at all.
01:13:05.000 What I can tell you is this.
01:13:06.000 We cannot have a Democrat.
01:13:08.000 We cannot have her.
01:13:09.000 She's incompetent.
01:13:10.000 She's as bad as Biden in a different...
01:13:12.000 Look, she hasn't done an interview...
01:13:14.000 Since this whole scam started.
01:13:18.000 And say what you want.
01:13:19.000 This was a coup.
01:13:20.000 This was a coup of a President of the United States.
01:13:23.000 He didn't want to leave and they said we can do it the nice way or we can do it the hard way.
01:13:28.000 Yeah, I mean, they just took him out back behind the shed and basically shot him.
01:13:32.000 Oh, what they did with this guy.
01:13:33.000 And I'm no fan of his.
01:13:35.000 And he was a horrible president, the worst president in history.
01:13:38.000 And one of the reasons he was so bad, first of all, the Israeli attack would have never happened.
01:13:43.000 Russia would never have attacked Ukraine.
01:13:45.000 And we'd have no inflation.
01:13:46.000 And we wouldn't have had the Afghanistan mess, if you think of it.
01:13:50.000 And we wouldn't have had Afghanistan.
01:13:52.000 But think of it.
01:13:53.000 You take a few of those events away and we have a different world.
01:13:59.000 Inflation was caused by oil.
01:14:02.000 Yeah.
01:14:02.000 I think you make an excellent point here, which is that when other countries are thinking about invading or doing bad things, when they're thinking about that, they're thinking about, okay, what's the American president going to do?
01:14:16.000 And do they fear the American president?
01:14:19.000 Or is there someone they do not respect and do not fear?
01:14:23.000 And I think they would...
01:14:27.000 They have to rightfully be, I mean, you know, look at the footage of the assassination.
01:14:33.000 They're like, okay, you know, President Trump is like, don't mess with me.
01:14:40.000 I mean, that's like, whereas I think people are not going to be, and they obviously have not been at all intimidated by Biden, and they certainly will not be intimidated by Kamala.
01:14:50.000 And you have to really think of that in the context of global security.
01:14:55.000 If the American president is someone that evil dictators are scared of, that makes a huge difference to the security of the world.
01:15:06.000 So I had a good relationship with Putin, despite the Russia-Russia-Russia hoax that lasted for over two years, just a hoax created by Hillary Clinton and Adam Shifty Schiff, some just bad people, you know, just sick people, frankly.
01:15:19.000 I mean, Schiff is a sick person.
01:15:21.000 He's going to end up probably being a senator.
01:15:23.000 It's hard to believe.
01:15:24.000 The whole thing is hard to believe.
01:15:26.000 But, you know, they put our country in danger with that stuff, too.
01:15:29.000 They actually, when they make up stories, you have to fight your way out of it for a long time.
01:15:34.000 But I know Putin very well.
01:15:36.000 I got along with him very well.
01:15:37.000 He respected me, and it's just one of those things.
01:15:40.000 And We would talk a lot about Ukraine.
01:15:44.000 It was the apple of his eye.
01:15:46.000 But I said, don't ever do it.
01:15:47.000 Don't ever do it.
01:15:48.000 You know, I shut down Nord Stream, too.
01:15:50.000 That was the big oil pipeline, the biggest, I think, the biggest pipeline in the world going all over Europe.
01:15:54.000 I shut it down.
01:15:55.000 Biden came.
01:15:56.000 And then they say, you know, I loved Russia.
01:15:58.000 I was a friend of Putin and I loved Russia.
01:16:00.000 No.
01:16:01.000 He actually said to me one time, he said, if you're my friend, I'd hate to see you as an enemy.
01:16:05.000 I shut down his pipeline, the biggest pipeline.
01:16:08.000 They were looking at that fund.
01:16:09.000 And this this pathetic president gets in there.
01:16:14.000 And the first thing he did, one of the early things he did is he shut down.
01:16:18.000 He shut down Keystone XL pipeline, which is our pipeline that would have employed forty eight thousand people.
01:16:25.000 People, pipeline workers shuts it down.
01:16:28.000 That was, you know, a massive job that Obama We're good to go.
01:17:26.000 Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
01:17:27.000 It puts the whole world in danger.
01:17:30.000 Elon, I know every one of them, and I know him well.
01:17:32.000 I know Putin.
01:17:33.000 I know President Xi.
01:17:34.000 I know Kim Jong-un of North Korea.
01:17:36.000 I know every one of them.
01:17:37.000 And let me tell you, people will say, oh, this is terrible.
01:17:40.000 He said, I'm not saying anything good or bad.
01:17:43.000 They're at the top of their game.
01:17:44.000 They're tough.
01:17:45.000 They're smart.
01:17:47.000 They're vicious.
01:17:48.000 And they're going to protect their country.
01:17:49.000 Whether they love their country, they probably do.
01:17:51.000 It's just a different form of love.
01:17:53.000 But they're going to protect their country.
01:17:55.000 But these are tough people at the top of their game.
01:17:57.000 And when they see a Kamala, or when they see Biden, Sleepy Joe, they can't even believe it.
01:18:04.000 They can't believe this happened.
01:18:06.000 All the stuff that you're seeing now, all the horror that you...
01:18:09.000 Look at Israel.
01:18:10.000 They're all waiting for an attack from Iran.
01:18:12.000 Iran would not be attacking, believe me.
01:18:14.000 You know, when I was there, and I say it...
01:18:17.000 With respect, because I think we would have been good with Iran.
01:18:21.000 I don't want to do anything bad to Iran, but they knew not to mess around.
01:18:24.000 Iran was broke because they told China, if you buy from Iran oil, it's all about the oil.
01:18:30.000 That's where the money is.
01:18:31.000 But if you buy oil from Iran, you're not going to do any business with the United States.
01:18:37.000 And I meant it.
01:18:38.000 And they said, we'll pass.
01:18:40.000 They didn't buy oil.
01:18:41.000 Other countries, likewise.
01:18:42.000 You want to buy, you're not doing business with the United States.
01:18:45.000 And they were at a point where they had no money for Hamas.
01:18:49.000 They had no money for Hezbollah.
01:18:50.000 They had no money for any of these instruments of terror.
01:18:53.000 And it was amazing.
01:18:55.000 In fact, there were articles when I was leaving, which is hard to believe, actually.
01:19:00.000 Especially when you look at what's happened to our country.
01:19:02.000 Our country is so bad right now.
01:19:04.000 It's such a different place.
01:19:05.000 We were respected.
01:19:07.000 Think of it.
01:19:07.000 Four years ago, we were so respected to a point where When I said, don't buy oil, they didn't buy oil.
01:19:14.000 But they had no money, and Israel would have never been attacked.
01:19:18.000 Zero chance.
01:19:20.000 And again, I said to Vladimir Putin, I said, don't do it.
01:19:23.000 You can't do it, Vladimir.
01:19:24.000 You do it.
01:19:25.000 It's going to be a bad day.
01:19:27.000 You cannot do it.
01:19:28.000 And I told him things that what I do, and he said, no way.
01:19:34.000 And I said, way.
01:19:36.000 And you know, it's the last time we ever had the conversation.
01:19:38.000 He would never have done...
01:19:40.000 I got along well with him.
01:19:41.000 I hope to get along well with him again.
01:19:43.000 You know, getting along well with them is a good thing, not a bad thing.
01:19:47.000 I got along well with Kim Jong-un.
01:19:49.000 When I met with President Obama just before entering, you know, it's sort of a ritual.
01:19:55.000 And I sat down with him and we talked.
01:19:57.000 It was supposed to be for a very short period of time.
01:19:59.000 It turned out to be a long period of time.
01:20:00.000 I said, what's the biggest problem?
01:20:02.000 He said, North Korea.
01:20:03.000 I had that problem worked out very quickly.
01:20:05.000 It was nasty at the beginning with Rocket Man and all the different things.
01:20:10.000 All of a sudden I got a call.
01:20:12.000 Those were some epic tweets, by the way.
01:20:14.000 No, they were epic everything.
01:20:16.000 He said that he has a red button on his desk.
01:20:19.000 I said, I have a red button on my desk too, but my red button is much bigger and my red button works.
01:20:25.000 And then I called him Little Rocket Man of Little Rocket Man.
01:20:28.000 Anyway, here's the bottom line.
01:20:30.000 All of a sudden I got a call from him.
01:20:32.000 And they said they want to meet.
01:20:34.000 They want to meet me.
01:20:35.000 And we met, as you remember, we met in Singapore.
01:20:37.000 We met also in Vietnam.
01:20:40.000 And I got along with them great.
01:20:42.000 We were in no danger.
01:20:44.000 But President Obama thought we were going to end up in a war, a nuclear war with him.
01:20:49.000 And let me tell you, he's got a lot of nuclear stuff, too.
01:20:52.000 He's got plenty of nuclear.
01:20:53.000 He can do plenty of damage.
01:20:56.000 So...
01:20:56.000 Yes, I mean, it's because people like Kim Jong-un, they respond to strength, not weakness.
01:21:05.000 He and I had a good relationship.
01:21:08.000 Remember I met him and we walked onto his land.
01:21:11.000 Nobody ever walked onto his land before.
01:21:15.000 Let's bring up Secret Service again.
01:21:17.000 I wouldn't say they were thrilled when I did that.
01:21:19.000 I walked onto his land.
01:21:20.000 And it was an amazing period.
01:21:24.000 But we were not in danger with him because of me.
01:21:27.000 You know, I always say that we have enemies on the outside and we have enemies on the inside.
01:21:32.000 We have some really bad people in our government and people that are, and controlling of the people.
01:21:40.000 I mean, I mentioned names, but I really don't want to give them the credit.
01:21:43.000 But we have some really bad, and I say they're more dangerous than Russia and China.
01:21:48.000 If you have a smart president, a president that gets it, we are not in danger from those countries because they need us and they need our help.
01:21:57.000 I mean, we forced Obama, if you think about it, Obama and Biden, and Bush to a certain extent, in all fairness, forced Russia and China together.
01:22:09.000 And if you're a history student, the first thing you learn is you cannot let Russia and China align.
01:22:15.000 But then they also got, if you take a look, Iran, and they have North Korea.
01:22:20.000 That's, you know, they call it the axis of evil.
01:22:23.000 In the old days, you had the axis of evil.
01:22:25.000 Here we have a modern-day axis of evil.
01:22:27.000 These are powerful countries, very heavy nuclear, which is the biggest threat.
01:22:33.000 You know, the biggest threat is not global warming, where the ocean is going to rise one-eighth of an inch over the next 400 years.
01:22:40.000 And you'll have more oceanfront property, right?
01:22:43.000 The biggest threat is not that.
01:22:45.000 The biggest threat is nuclear warming.
01:22:47.000 Because we have five countries now that have significant nuclear power, and we have to not allow anything to happen with stupid people like Biden.
01:22:58.000 You know, Biden did something with Russia.
01:23:01.000 There was no chance of him ever going in.
01:23:04.000 And when I left, and then after I left, they started forming Big armies on the border with Ukraine, right?
01:23:11.000 And I looked at that, and I thought he was doing that because Putin's a good negotiator.
01:23:15.000 I thought he was doing that to negotiate.
01:23:17.000 But then Biden started saying such stupid things.
01:23:20.000 For instance, he said that it can be a NATO country.
01:23:25.000 Now, Russia, for as long as there's been NATO, has said we're never going to agree to that.
01:23:31.000 Yeah.
01:23:31.000 And we go right up front and say that.
01:23:34.000 And we did things and said things through this president with a low IQ, very low IQ. He had a low IQ 30 years ago, by the way, but now he might not even have an IQ at all.
01:23:44.000 There's nothing on the board that goes this low.
01:23:47.000 He said things that were so stupid.
01:23:52.000 That war had zero chance of happening if I were there.
01:23:57.000 Zero chance.
01:23:58.000 He was saying everything the opposite.
01:24:00.000 Everything the opposite.
01:24:02.000 And it's so sad because many more people have been killed in Ukraine than you read about.
01:24:07.000 You don't read about how bloody it is and how disastrous.
01:24:09.000 Hey look, just in the two armies you lost a half a million people.
01:24:13.000 Damn.
01:24:14.000 And Ukraine's having a hard time.
01:24:16.000 Ukraine, I don't know if you saw the article recently, and you don't hear the true story.
01:24:20.000 Trump's networking saved the war back in the day.
01:24:24.000 If you think about it, Russia's gone, you know, Russia defeated Germany with us.
01:24:28.000 And they defeated Napoleon.
01:24:29.000 You know, they've been around a long time.
01:24:31.000 They're a big fighting force.
01:24:32.000 And it's very unfair.
01:24:34.000 And Ukraine now doesn't have enough men.
01:24:37.000 They're now using young men and very old men to fight.
01:24:41.000 And we're in a very bad position.
01:24:44.000 And I'm not going to blame exclusively, but I can tell you I could have stopped that.
01:24:49.000 And a smart president could have stopped that.
01:24:51.000 It wouldn't have happened.
01:24:53.000 But we had a man that actually made it more prevalent.
01:24:57.000 It was so bad.
01:24:59.000 The words that he was using...
01:25:02.000 The stupid threats coming from a stupid face that he was using.
01:25:07.000 I said, this guy's going to cause us a war.
01:25:09.000 He's going to cause us.
01:25:10.000 And let me tell you, it can lead to World War III. That can lead to World War III. The Middle East can lead to...
01:25:15.000 We have numerous places that could end up in World War III right now for no reason whatsoever.
01:25:21.000 I think you're right.
01:25:22.000 I think people underrate the risk of World War III. When you're looking at the risk of global thermonuclear warfare, it's game over for humanity.
01:25:35.000 It's something that people have, I think, after the end of the Cold War, people have become complacent about, but they actually have forgotten that there are currently a lot of nuclear missiles that have targeting parameters for the United States from other countries.
01:25:50.000 And one of the things we're going to do is we're going to build an Iron Dome over us.
01:25:54.000 You know, Israel has it.
01:25:56.000 We're going to have the best Iron Dome in the world.
01:25:58.000 We need it.
01:25:58.000 And we're going to make it all in the United States.
01:26:00.000 But we're going to have protection.
01:26:02.000 Because it just takes one maniac to start something.
01:26:06.000 We're going to have protection.
01:26:07.000 Why shouldn't we have an Iron Dome?
01:26:09.000 Israel has one.
01:26:10.000 Some other places have one that nobody even knows about, frankly.
01:26:14.000 But Israel has it.
01:26:15.000 We're going to have an Iron Dome.
01:26:17.000 But, you know, with all of that being said, to me that's so important, the most important.
01:26:21.000 But with all of that being said...
01:26:23.000 The election's coming up and the people want to hear about the economy and the fact that they can't buy groceries because they don't have enough money to buy groceries.
01:26:32.000 The inflation has killed them.
01:26:33.000 Food prices are up 50, 60, even 100% in some cases.
01:26:37.000 And this stupid administration allowed this to happen.
01:26:41.000 And it's a shame.
01:26:43.000 And that's the thing that people most care about, in my opinion.
01:26:46.000 They care about the border a lot.
01:26:47.000 And we discuss the border at great length.
01:26:50.000 It's nice to have a forum like this where I can discuss something at length.
01:26:54.000 And by the way, you think Biden could do this interview?
01:26:56.000 Do you think that Kamala could do this interview?
01:26:59.000 No, they could not.
01:27:01.000 They don't need Elon screaming out questions.
01:27:07.000 It's pretty sad when you think that somebody that does this for a living can't answer a question or is afraid to do an interview.
01:27:14.000 And in her case, with a very friendly interview.
01:27:16.000 She's got all friendly interviewers.
01:27:18.000 It's pretty good.
01:27:19.000 But the big thing now is the economy, Elon.
01:27:22.000 And as much as...
01:27:23.000 I mean, I view nuclear as the single most important thing, but a lot of people don't understand that.
01:27:29.000 But it doesn't have to.
01:27:30.000 If I understand it, that's all you need.
01:27:32.000 Because if I was president, you're not going to have that kind of a problem.
01:27:35.000 But the thing that they really...
01:27:38.000 It's making them angry is what...
01:27:40.000 Kamala and Biden have allowed to happen to the economy.
01:27:44.000 It's a disaster with inflation.
01:27:46.000 The inflation, it doesn't matter what you make, the inflation has eaten you alive.
01:27:51.000 If you're a worker, or if you're just a middle-income person, You can't afford.
01:27:59.000 You know, four years ago, five years ago, people were saving a lot of money.
01:28:02.000 Today, they're using all their money and borrowing money just to live.
01:28:06.000 It's a horrible thing that's happening.
01:28:09.000 I thought this was a conversation.
01:28:11.000 A lot of people just don't understand where inflation comes from.
01:28:16.000 Inflation comes from government overspending because the checks never bounce when it's written by the government.
01:28:20.000 So if the government It spends far more than it brings in.
01:28:25.000 That increases the money supply.
01:28:27.000 And if the money supply increases faster than the rate of goods and services, that's inflation.
01:28:32.000 So really, we need to reduce our government spending.
01:28:38.000 And we need to re-examine.
01:28:40.000 I think we need a government efficiency commission.
01:28:43.000 To say, like, hey, where are we spending money that's sensible?
01:28:46.000 Where is it not sensible?
01:28:47.000 And we need to live within our means.
01:28:50.000 We're currently adding, I think, a trillion dollars to the deficit roughly every 100 days.
01:28:58.000 And the interest payments on the national debt have now exceeded the defense budget.
01:29:03.000 It's on the order of a trillion dollars.
01:29:06.000 And it keeps growing.
01:29:07.000 I rebuilt our military, largely rebuilt our military, did a great job on it, which was so important.
01:29:12.000 You know, we had jets, we had fighters that were, and bombers that were 70 years old.
01:29:17.000 We did a great job on that.
01:29:19.000 Then we, by the way, then we gave $85 billion of it back to Afghanistan, if you can believe it.
01:29:24.000 We gave them $85 billion.
01:29:25.000 You know, they're one of the largest sellers of military equipment in the world.
01:29:29.000 They're selling what we gave them.
01:29:31.000 That was one of the most embarrassing days in the history of our country.
01:29:35.000 But if you think about, let's go back to the economy, we have to bring energy prices down.
01:29:42.000 Energy started at the price of gasoline.
01:29:46.000 Now, your cars don't require too much gasoline, and you do make a great product, I have to say.
01:29:52.000 I have to be honest with you.
01:29:53.000 That doesn't mean everybody should have an electric car, but these are minor details.
01:29:57.000 But your product is incredible.
01:30:00.000 But the gasoline, Elon, is the cost of energy.
01:30:04.000 Not only gasoline, it's the cost of heating your house and cooling your house.
01:30:08.000 That has to come down.
01:30:10.000 It's gone up 100%, 150%, and 200%.
01:30:17.000 We're good to go.
01:30:30.000 This country will go out of business because they're going to go to an energy policy that's not sustainable.
01:30:36.000 Wind and different things, you're not going to have anything.
01:30:40.000 And I know you're a big fan of the AI, and I have to say that AI, and this is shocking to me, but AI requires twice the energy that the country already produces for everything.
01:30:53.000 So, we're going to have to build a lot of energy if our country will be competitive with China, because that's our primary competitor for this on the AI. You're going to need a lot of electricity.
01:31:05.000 You're going to need tremendous electricity, like almost double what we produce now for the whole country, if you can believe it.
01:31:13.000 Sure.
01:31:15.000 Well, just going back to this basic thing that people try to make it sound complicated but it's not, but inflation is caused by government overspending.
01:31:25.000 Would you agree that we need to take a look at government spending and have perhaps a government efficiency commission that The waste is incredible.
01:31:42.000 Nobody negotiates prices.
01:31:45.000 You used to have a lot of people making jets and you end up with two companies and they'll probably try and merge at some point.
01:31:51.000 I mean, I went through it.
01:31:54.000 Just a thing like Air Force One.
01:31:57.000 One of the first documents they asked me to sign in general, I said, sir, will you please sign this document?
01:32:01.000 What is it?
01:32:02.000 Air Force One.
01:32:03.000 That's with Boeing, which is basically two planes, two 747s.
01:32:07.000 And the price was $5.7 billion for two planes.
01:32:11.000 Now, they're highly sophisticated.
01:32:13.000 They're even nicer than your plane, okay?
01:32:15.000 But much more sophisticated.
01:32:17.000 I won't say what's on it, but they got a lot of stuff on it.
01:32:20.000 Anyway, but it's 5.7.
01:32:22.000 That's a crazy number.
01:32:24.000 But I said, I'm not going to pay 5.7.
01:32:26.000 I'm not going to do it.
01:32:27.000 I said, who made the deal?
01:32:28.000 Obama and his people.
01:32:29.000 I said, well, then I know the deal's no good.
01:32:31.000 I'm not going to do it.
01:32:33.000 And over the course of about four weeks, by my saying I'm not going to do it, I got the price reduced by $1.6 billion for the exact same plane, other than we had a nicer paint job, if you want to know the truth.
01:32:45.000 But for the exact same plane, I saved one.
01:32:49.000 And I said to Boeing, man, you guys must make a lot of money if you can reduce the price by that.
01:32:54.000 But now what I do hear is that they're going back to the...
01:33:07.000 I agree with you.
01:33:22.000 Well, I mean, I think it would be great to just have a government efficiency commission that takes a look at these things and just ensures that the taxpayer's hard-earned money is spent in a good way.
01:33:39.000 And I'd be happy to help out on such a commission.
01:33:43.000 I'd love it.
01:33:43.000 Well, you, you're the greatest cutter.
01:33:46.000 I mean, I look at what you do.
01:33:47.000 You walk in and you just say...
01:33:49.000 You want to quit?
01:33:50.000 They go on strike.
01:33:51.000 I won't mention the name of the company, but they go on strike, and you say, that's okay, you're all gone.
01:33:56.000 You're all gone.
01:33:57.000 So every one of you is gone, and you are the greatest.
01:33:59.000 You would be very good.
01:34:00.000 Oh, you would love it.
01:34:01.000 But, you know, if you look at our...
01:34:03.000 Well, I'd be happy to help out.
01:34:04.000 By the way, congratulations.
01:34:05.000 I just looked at the number of people that are listening to you and I chat.
01:34:08.000 We'll call it a chat.
01:34:10.000 But congratulations.
01:34:12.000 This is very good.
01:34:13.000 I mean, it's great.
01:34:14.000 And you're an interesting character.
01:34:16.000 You know, the...
01:34:22.000 We're good to go.
01:34:44.000 And I'm hearing they're starting to do pretty well.
01:34:47.000 Inflation's getting down.
01:34:48.000 You know, they had like 2,000%.
01:34:50.000 They had inflation like not normal inflation.
01:34:54.000 They had the real deal.
01:34:56.000 But we're going to have that pretty soon.
01:34:58.000 I think we have the worst inflation we've had in 100 years.
01:35:02.000 They say it's 48 years.
01:35:04.000 I don't believe it.
01:35:05.000 I think we have the worst.
01:35:05.000 They don't include a lot of the items that should be included, you know.
01:35:11.000 It's just from government overspending and just not spending taxpayer money effectively.
01:35:18.000 And having so many departments, you can't even name them all.
01:35:24.000 And what Malay is doing is He's simplifying things, he's putting in regulations that make sense, and Argentina overnight is experiencing a giant improvement in prosperity.
01:35:43.000 But it's also a lesson for the United States, which is that Argentina used to be one of the most prosperous countries in the world.
01:35:53.000 I think in the 30s, 40s.
01:35:56.000 And because of bad government policy, it ruined the country.
01:36:00.000 And if you take Venezuela, for example, Venezuela should be incredibly prosperous.
01:36:05.000 They have phenomenal Reserves of everything, oil, everything.
01:36:11.000 And it should be prosperous, but if the government's wrong, it impoverishes the people.
01:36:16.000 And so I think we should not be complacent in the United States in thinking that and taking out prosperity for granted, because with bad government policy, we can run the country to the ground.
01:36:27.000 And that's just something people should bear in mind.
01:36:30.000 Don't take prosperity for granted.
01:36:31.000 Well, think of education.
01:36:33.000 So we're ranked at the bottom of every list of the top 40.
01:36:37.000 We're ranked number 40, number 38.
01:36:40.000 Norway, Switzerland, Sweden, different countries are ranked good.
01:36:46.000 Actually, China's pretty close to the top.
01:36:49.000 They're a top six or seven.
01:36:50.000 But we're ranked at the bottom, almost at the bottom, 38, 39, 40.
01:36:55.000 In other words, horrible.
01:36:57.000 And yet we spend more per pupil than any other country in the world.
01:37:00.000 So we spend more.
01:37:01.000 And what I'm going to do, one of the first acts, and this is where I need an Elon Musk.
01:37:05.000 I need somebody that has a lot of strength and courage and smarts.
01:37:09.000 I want to close up Department of Education, move education back to the States.
01:37:15.000 Where states like Iowa, where states like Idaho, you know, not every state will do great.
01:37:22.000 Because states that basically aren't doing good now, you look at Gavin Newsom, the governor of California.
01:37:28.000 Gavin Newsom.
01:37:30.000 He's terrible.
01:37:30.000 He does a terrible job.
01:37:31.000 So he's not going to do great with education.
01:37:33.000 But of the 50, I would bet that 35 would do great.
01:37:39.000 And 15 of them, or...
01:37:42.000 You know, 20 of them will be as good as Norway.
01:37:45.000 You know, Norway is considered great.
01:37:48.000 You can name them.
01:37:49.000 I mean, they're just so good.
01:37:51.000 Some of these countries are so good.
01:37:53.000 But if you go into some of these really well-run states, you know, we have states that don't know what debt is.
01:37:58.000 We have states that have low taxes, no debt, everybody works.
01:38:03.000 You know, they're really well-run.
01:38:09.000 Yeah.
01:38:36.000 Yeah.
01:38:45.000 I think you're making a good point in that if each state has to compete against other states, then people will naturally move to states where it's better.
01:38:58.000 Well, like California, you know, as we said, it's a badly run state.
01:39:02.000 I could go through it.
01:39:03.000 I got so many friends that are in those states, even if they're Democrats.
01:39:07.000 I hate to mention certain states, but Illinois is badly run with Pritzker.
01:39:11.000 He's a real loser.
01:39:12.000 But, you know, some of these places are just badly run.
01:39:17.000 But, you know, it's almost going to force them to run better.
01:39:20.000 And they won't do good initially, but you're not going to do worse than you're doing right now.
01:39:25.000 And I would say that the cost, you would cut your cost by 50 or 60 percent.
01:39:30.000 And you'd have a little monitor.
01:39:32.000 You know, you want to make sure they're teaching English, as an example.
01:39:35.000 You know, give us a little English, right?
01:39:36.000 Sure.
01:39:37.000 I mean, some of these governors are doing so badly.
01:39:42.000 I mean, they've got so many people moving out of their state, they should get U-Haul Salesman of the Year Award because they're driving so much U-Haul.
01:39:50.000 It's actually amazing.
01:39:51.000 People moving out.
01:39:52.000 Isn't it amazing to you as a businessman that they can even survive?
01:39:57.000 Like Illinois, so many people are leaving, and you wonder, how do they survive?
01:40:01.000 I mean, how do they survive?
01:40:04.000 I saw where you left California and you moved to Texas.
01:40:08.000 Texas does a great job.
01:40:10.000 But, you know, I mean, I just wonder, how do these states survive when big businesses, a big oil company just left California, as you know, and they moved to Texas.
01:40:19.000 How do these big states survive when they lose so many businesses and their taxes are already really high?
01:40:27.000 You know, the taxes are among the highest taxes.
01:40:30.000 You almost wonder, how do they...
01:40:32.000 How do they continue on?
01:40:33.000 And in many cases, the governors don't do a good job in their crime ridden places.
01:40:38.000 You wonder, how do they continue to just go on?
01:40:41.000 It's not a good situation.
01:40:45.000 I mean, I think the only thing that's going to force some of these states to change is if they risk bankruptcy and they're not getting bailed out by the federal government.
01:40:52.000 Right.
01:40:52.000 Well, you're going to have that.
01:40:54.000 That's the only thing that's going to get them changed.
01:40:55.000 You remember the area in California where they had that, where I guess somebody had sticky fingers and they sold a lot of money, and they went into a form of chapter, and it was very nasty for a period of time, but now it's probably the most popular place in all of California.
01:41:12.000 So, you know, at some point...
01:41:15.000 Something like that may have to happen.
01:41:17.000 But the problem is you can't penalize people that loan money to the state when you have incompetent people like a Pritzker.
01:41:25.000 The family didn't want him in the family business.
01:41:28.000 And then he ends up being governor of Illinois.
01:41:31.000 So you know what?
01:41:32.000 Is he going to be a great governor?
01:41:34.000 And you know, you have people.
01:41:36.000 I could name every one of them.
01:41:37.000 I got to know every one of these.
01:41:39.000 And some are very good and some are just horrible.
01:41:42.000 Well, I think the larger point here, as you're saying, a lot of people are concerned about the economy, a lot of people are concerned about inflation, and inflation is effectively a tax on people that save money and for people that are working day to day.
01:41:56.000 It's just a form of taxation.
01:42:04.000 The people that got hurt worse are the people that did it the way they were taught to do it all through their younger life and their young life and their whole life.
01:42:18.000 The people that saved money And then they got no interest on their money and inflation destroyed them.
01:42:25.000 And frankly, they were almost better off if they didn't do anything like that.
01:42:28.000 I mean, those people have been absolutely decimated.
01:42:31.000 And we're going to bring those people back and help those people.
01:42:33.000 We've got to get the prices down.
01:42:35.000 You know, when I look at bacon costing five, four or five times more than it did a few years ago, when you look at some of the food products and groceries, those people go, they can't believe it.
01:42:45.000 They used to be able to buy a whole cart until they...
01:42:49.000 You know, a lot of people just don't have the money.
01:42:52.000 They go in and they can't buy anything.
01:42:54.000 They look at...
01:42:55.000 It's sticker shock.
01:42:56.000 They call it sticker shock, right?
01:42:59.000 I think it really just comes down to, I guess, really two things, which is that if you solve government overspending, you solve inflation, which improves the living standards of the average person.
01:43:11.000 And then if you deregulate...
01:43:14.000 You mean like don't send money abroad?
01:43:15.000 Because a lot of the regulations are nonsensical and cause the cost to be extreme for no reason.
01:43:22.000 But unless you've got effective deregulation, like Reagan did a great job on deregulation in the 80s, but it's been 40 years since we hadn't...
01:43:32.000 During your administration, we made some progress, but I think there's an opportunity to make, I think, radical progress with sensible regulation.
01:43:43.000 Those two things.
01:43:46.000 Those are the big deal.
01:43:47.000 We set a record...
01:43:48.000 We did more deregulation and more restrictions on all of the different businesses than any other president.
01:43:57.000 Remember, I had the rule for every one we put in, you have to get rid of 10 or 12.
01:44:01.000 And we did radical cuts on all of that.
01:44:05.000 And a lot of that's being put back by this administration.
01:44:08.000 And we did radical cuts on things that weren't necessary.
01:44:10.000 But we were all set.
01:44:13.000 You know, we had the best economy ever.
01:44:15.000 Ever, maybe, in the world.
01:44:17.000 And then what happened is COVID came in, and we had to focus on that, and nobody knew what it was.
01:44:22.000 And I always say I got good marks on economy, good marks on military.
01:44:26.000 We knocked out ISIS. We did so many different things.
01:44:28.000 We rebuilt.
01:44:29.000 But, you know, I never got...
01:44:31.000 The credit that we really deserved on what we did with COVID. We never got the credit, but had that not happened, the gift from China, from Wuhan, came in from Wuhan, the Wuhan labs, and I always said it and it turned out to be right.
01:44:49.000 But had that not...
01:44:50.000 We're good to go.
01:45:09.000 We're reducing debt.
01:45:11.000 And, you know, we're sitting on the biggest pile of liquid gold anywhere in the world, bigger than Saudi Arabia, bigger than Russia.
01:45:19.000 And we were going to drill and we were going to make so much money.
01:45:22.000 We were going to supply Europe with oil.
01:45:24.000 I had stopped the Russian pipeline and we were going to supply them with oil and gas.
01:45:28.000 We were going to make a fortune.
01:45:30.000 And then...
01:45:32.000 Well, the COVID came in and we really had to divert.
01:45:36.000 Then what happened is when they came in, you know, we kept a lot of businesses alive.
01:45:40.000 If I didn't do what we did, we would have had a 1929-type depression.
01:45:44.000 But the problem is when Biden came in, he got trillions of dollars and just started spending it stupidly.
01:45:51.000 You didn't need it anymore.
01:45:52.000 You know, we got over that bad period where everybody was dying and, you know, it was just not a good period.
01:46:00.000 Interestingly, You know, during his administration, many more people died during his administration of COVID than during my administration.
01:46:09.000 And we really got the brunt of it.
01:46:12.000 But people don't realize more people died during his administration than ours.
01:46:16.000 But it diverted us from doing what I wanted to do.
01:46:20.000 But we had the greatest for, you know, almost three years.
01:46:23.000 And you know that probably better than anybody.
01:46:26.000 So many of your friends said to me, the best years we've ever had in business...
01:46:33.000 And also said that African-American, Hispanic-American were so incredible.
01:46:41.000 They were having the best Asian-American women, men, young people without a diploma, young people that graduated from the best colleges.
01:47:10.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:47:14.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:47:15.000 I mean, I should probably say something about, like, you know, maybe my views on, you know, climate change and oil and gas.
01:47:22.000 Because I think it's probably different from what most people would assume.
01:47:28.000 Because my views are actually pretty, I think, moderate in this regard, which is that I don't think we should vilify the oil and gas industry.
01:47:36.000 And the people that have worked very hard in those industries to provide the necessary energy to support the economy.
01:47:42.000 And if we were to stop using oil and gas right now, we would all be starving and the economy would collapse.
01:47:48.000 So I don't think it's right to sort of vilify the oil and gas industry.
01:47:56.000 The world has a certain demand for oil and gas, and it's probably better if the United States provides that than some other countries, and it would help with prosperity in the U.S. At the same time, obviously, my view is we do,
01:48:11.000 over time, want to move to a sustainable energy economy because eventually you do run out of oil and gas.
01:48:19.000 It's not infinite.
01:48:22.000 And there is some risk.
01:48:24.000 I think the risk is not as high as a lot of people say it is with respect to global warming.
01:48:31.000 But I think if you just keep increasing the parts per million in the atmosphere long enough, eventually it actually simply gets uncomfortable to breathe.
01:48:40.000 People don't realize this.
01:48:41.000 If you go past 1,000 parts per million of CO2, you start getting headaches and nausea.
01:48:48.000 And so we're now in the sort of 400 range.
01:48:52.000 We're adding, I think, about roughly two parts per million per year.
01:48:58.000 So what it means is we still have quite a bit of time.
01:49:03.000 So we don't need to rush and we don't need to stop farmers from farming or prevent people from having steaks or basic stuff like that.
01:49:14.000 Leave the farmers alone.
01:49:16.000 How crazy is that?
01:49:18.000 You have farmers that are not allowed to farm anymore and have to get rid of their cattle.
01:49:23.000 The whole world is a little crazy, but it's largely taken its lead from us.
01:49:29.000 I do say, though, I've heard in terms of the fossil fuel...
01:49:33.000 Because even to create your electric car or create the electricity needed for the electric car, you know, fossil fuel is what really creates that at the generating plants.
01:49:45.000 And, you know, so you sort of can't get away from it at this moment.
01:49:48.000 I mean, someday you might be able to.
01:49:50.000 But I do hear we have anywhere from 100 to 500 years left.
01:49:54.000 You know, much of it hasn't even been found yet.
01:49:56.000 But there are tremendous, like ANWR. I got ANWR in Alaska approved.
01:50:01.000 Ronald Reagan couldn't do it.
01:50:02.000 Nobody could do it.
01:50:03.000 Everybody tried.
01:50:04.000 Nobody could do it.
01:50:05.000 I got it approved.
01:50:06.000 The first thing that Biden did was unimprove it, to get rid of it.
01:50:12.000 He ended it.
01:50:14.000 His secretary went in and she ended it.
01:50:18.000 And what a disgrace.
01:50:20.000 That's Anwar.
01:50:20.000 That's bigger, or they think it could be bigger than Saudi Arabia in Alaska.
01:50:25.000 Could be bigger than Saudi Arabia.
01:50:27.000 But they went in and they terminated it.
01:50:29.000 And I'll get it going very quickly because not only is it big for Alaska, I mean, you talk about economic development, that for the United States, I mean, that is, they say, bigger than Saudi Arabia or the same size.
01:50:42.000 And pure, really good stuff.
01:50:45.000 And, you know, they end it.
01:50:47.000 So I think we have, you know, perhaps hundreds of years left.
01:50:51.000 Nobody really knows.
01:50:52.000 But during that time, something will come around.
01:50:55.000 Yeah.
01:50:57.000 Well, I mean, my estimate would be, you know, a little more aggressive than that, but it's not these sort of like we're going to die in five years stuff.
01:51:06.000 That's obviously BS. But my view is, like, if you just look at sort of cost per million that increments every year, you know, you get sort of 203 cost per million every year of CO2. I mean, I think...
01:51:21.000 Some of that, it's problematic if it accelerates, if you start going from 2 or 3 to, say, 5.
01:51:26.000 And then there may be some situations where you get a step change increase in the CO2. And I think we don't want to get too close to 1,000 ppm because that actually makes it uncomfortable to breathe.
01:51:45.000 Like, just existing in 1,000 ppm CO2 is uncomfortable.
01:51:49.000 That's like a...
01:51:50.000 That's considered an industrial hazard, right?
01:51:53.000 Climate control, guys.
01:51:55.000 You start getting headaches and stuff, so even without global warming, it's not comfortable.
01:52:01.000 We don't want to get too close to that, but I think we've got I think we want to just move over.
01:52:07.000 And if, I don't know, 50 to 100 years from now, we're mostly sustainable, I think that'll probably be okay.
01:52:19.000 So it's not like the house is on fire immediately, but I think it is something we need to move towards.
01:52:26.000 And on balance, it's probably better to move...
01:52:31.000 They're faster than slower, but like I said, without vilifying the oil and gas industry, and without causing hardship in the short term, I think this could be done.
01:52:42.000 I'm just kidding.
01:52:44.000 People can still have a stake, and they can still drive gasoline cars.
01:52:52.000 It's okay.
01:52:54.000 I don't think we should vilify people for it, but I think we should just...
01:52:57.000 Just generally lean in the direction of sustainability.
01:53:02.000 I actually think solar is going to be a majority of energy generation in the future, and it's certainly trending that way.
01:53:11.000 And so you get the solar power, mind that with batteries, because obviously the sun doesn't shine at night.
01:53:18.000 And then you use that to charge the electric cars, and you have a long-term sustainable solution.
01:53:24.000 And, you know, that's what Ches is trying to do.
01:53:26.000 I think we've made a lot of progress in that regard.
01:53:29.000 But when you look at our cars, we don't believe that environmentalism, that caring about the environment should mean that you have to suffer.
01:53:36.000 So we make sure that our cars are beautiful, that they drive well, that they're fast, they're, you know, sexy.
01:53:42.000 I mean, they're cool.
01:53:44.000 I mean, the sexy joke, Model S, Model 3, Model X, and Y spells out sexy.
01:53:48.000 It's probably the most expensive joke out there.
01:53:51.000 But, you know, I just, I don't know, I like cheesy humor, you know?
01:53:55.000 But I'm kind of like, let's have an inspiring future, and let's work towards, you know, a better future, and we do so without demonizing people.
01:54:06.000 Right.
01:54:07.000 I'm okay.
01:54:08.000 You know, it's very interesting.
01:54:09.000 You use the word global warming, and Today they use the word climate change because, you know, you have some places that go up and stuff.
01:54:16.000 So they were getting themselves in a little trouble with the word global warming because not every place is warming.
01:54:21.000 Some places are going the opposite direction.
01:54:23.000 But, you know, I'm sort of waiting for you to come up with solar panels on the roofs of your cars and on the trunks of the cars.
01:54:31.000 And it just seems like something that at some point you will come up with.
01:54:34.000 I'm sure you'll be the first.
01:54:36.000 I thought the right word against climate change.
01:54:38.000 On the roofs, you know, on flat surfaces, on certain surfaces might be good, at least in certain areas of the country or the world where you have the sun.
01:54:47.000 But I would think, and I have no idea because that's not my world, but I would think that this would be something that would be interesting.
01:54:55.000 But you know, the one thing that I don't understand is that people talk about global warming or they talk about climate change.
01:55:02.000 But they never talk about nuclear warming.
01:55:05.000 And to me, that's an immediate problem.
01:55:08.000 Because you have, as I said, five countries where you have major nuclear, and probably some others are getting there, and that's very dangerous.
01:55:17.000 That's where you need a strong American president, because you don't want to have this proliferation.
01:55:22.000 But you have five countries and getting more.
01:55:26.000 You know, China is much less than us right now, but they're going to catch us Sooner than people think.
01:55:32.000 They're way lower.
01:55:33.000 Russia and us are number one, and we're sort of tied.
01:55:37.000 And China is far behind, but they're developing at a level that you're not surprised to hear very fast.
01:55:43.000 They'll end up catching up.
01:55:45.000 Maybe even surpassing.
01:55:47.000 But to me, the biggest problem is not climate change.
01:55:52.000 It's not...
01:55:53.000 And everything's, you know, a problem, but to me, the big problem is the nuclear power.
01:55:58.000 The power of nuclear is so great.
01:56:02.000 And when I talk about I'll prevent World War III, I will.
01:56:07.000 But the truth is that...
01:56:09.000 You have to, because this is no longer army tanks going back and forth and shooting at each other.
01:56:14.000 This is a level of destruction and power that nobody's ever seen before.
01:56:18.000 So Trump's talking about nuclear warfare, and Musk is talking about nuclear power.
01:56:22.000 There's the bad side of nuclear, which is a nuclear war, a very bad side.
01:56:25.000 But there's also, I think, nuclear electricity generation is underrated.
01:56:31.000 And it's actually, you know, people have this fear of nuclear power.
01:56:35.000 Nuclear electricity generation, but it's actually one of the safest forms of electricity generation.
01:56:41.000 It's just a huge misunderstanding.
01:56:44.000 And if you look at the injuries and deaths caused by, say, I mean, I'm not going to try to pick on coal mining, but just any kind of mining operation.
01:56:52.000 And there's a certain number of injuries and deaths per year.
01:56:57.000 You compare that to nuclear, nuclear is actually way better.
01:57:00.000 So it's underrated as an electricity source, and I think it's something that's worth reconsidering.
01:57:05.000 But there's so much regulation that people can't get it done.
01:57:10.000 Maybe they'll have to change the name.
01:57:12.000 The name is a rough name.
01:57:13.000 There are some areas like that.
01:57:18.000 We'll have to rebrand it.
01:57:19.000 We'll have to give it a good name.
01:57:20.000 We'll name it after you or something.
01:57:22.000 You know, hey, it has a branding problem.
01:57:26.000 You know, when you see what happened in Japan, where they say you won't be able to go on the land for about 3,000 years.
01:57:34.000 Did you ever say that?
01:57:35.000 And in Russia, where they had the problem, where they, you know, there's a lot of bad things happened, and they have a problem.
01:57:41.000 And they say that In 2000 years, people will start to occupy the land again.
01:57:46.000 You know, you realize it's pretty bad.
01:57:48.000 No, that's not true.
01:57:49.000 It is true.
01:57:51.000 They're just mixing nuclear fallout and nuclear power.
01:57:55.000 People were asking me in California, You know, are we worried about like a nuclear cloud coming from Japan?
01:58:01.000 I'm like, no, that's crazy.
01:58:02.000 It's actually, it's not even dangerous in Fukushima.
01:58:04.000 I actually flew there and ate locally grown vegetables on TV to prove it.
01:58:10.000 And I donated a solar water treatment, a solar power system for a water treatment plant.
01:58:17.000 Yeah, but you haven't been feeling so well lately and I'm worried about it.
01:58:21.000 No, no, but I'm only kidding.
01:58:22.000 It's fine, you know, it's like, You know, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed, but now they're like full cities again.
01:58:30.000 So it's really not something that, you know, it's not as scary as people think, basically.
01:58:38.000 Let's see.
01:58:39.000 I mean, are there some other topics we should touch on?
01:58:42.000 Oh, you know, like lawfare, I think, you know, we need to be concerned about.
01:58:46.000 What they've done to this country.
01:58:47.000 Obviously.
01:58:48.000 Yeah.
01:58:49.000 Well, we just won the big case in Florida.
01:58:51.000 This was a Biden administration, did something that's never been done in this country, and that's go after their political opponent, me, with this nonsense, and just nonsense.
01:59:03.000 And the big case in Florida we won, but they always pick a judge and a jury, and they use local DAs, they use the local attorney generals, like Fani, you know, Fani, spelled F-A-N-I, Fani.
01:59:19.000 And it's all a big hoax.
01:59:21.000 And it's all run from there.
01:59:22.000 Like in Manhattan, one of the top people from the Justice Department went in, ran Manhattan, ran the state.
01:59:29.000 The Leticia James deal was run by a person from the Department of Justice, Biden.
01:59:34.000 They've never done this before.
01:59:36.000 And they set up...
01:59:37.000 A very bad precedent.
01:59:39.000 It's called lawfare, warfare.
01:59:42.000 It's a terrible thing and never happened in our country.
01:59:47.000 It does happen in banana republics and third world countries, but it's never happened.
01:59:52.000 The incredible thing is it actually drove my numbers up because people see, you know, fortunately I have a platform like you or, you know, in all fairness, like a conversation like this where I can talk about it and people understand.
02:00:05.000 I mean, you fight for election integrity and you end up getting indicted.
02:00:10.000 Because you're fighting for election integrity.
02:00:13.000 And when the day comes that you can't fight for election integrity, you don't have a country anymore.
02:00:17.000 So what happens is after their political opponent, me, now Biden's close to vegetable stage, in my opinion.
02:00:27.000 I looked at him today on the beach, and I said, why would anybody allow him?
02:00:33.000 The guy could barely walk.
02:00:34.000 Why would anybody allow him?
02:00:36.000 Does he have a political advisor that thinks this looks good?
02:00:40.000 You know, he thinks this looks good because it looks so bad.
02:00:44.000 And it's ridiculous.
02:00:47.000 I mean, and he's been doing that for a long time.
02:00:49.000 You know, he can't lift the chair.
02:00:50.000 The chair weighs about three ounces.
02:00:52.000 It's meant for children and old people to lift.
02:00:55.000 And he can't lift it.
02:00:57.000 The whole thing is crazy.
02:00:59.000 It's clearly, I mean, it's clearly like we just don't have a president.
02:01:02.000 You don't have a president.
02:01:03.000 And she's going to be worse than him.
02:01:04.000 Because she...
02:01:06.000 Is a San Francisco liberal who destroyed San Francisco and then as Attorney General she destroyed California.
02:01:14.000 You talk about location and we're talking about the sun and the water and all.
02:01:18.000 There's nothing better than California.
02:01:20.000 She has destroyed that.
02:01:22.000 She was the original DA. She was the original in San Francisco.
02:01:26.000 She was the original Attorney General in California.
02:01:28.000 What she has done to California is...
02:01:31.000 Well, you know better than I do.
02:01:32.000 You just left California for a lot of those reasons.
02:01:36.000 And what he's done with crime, with cashless bail, where you kill somebody.
02:01:42.000 I mean, we have states that you kill somebody and they let you out right away.
02:01:46.000 I mean, you don't have to even put up.
02:01:47.000 And then they never find the people unless they kill again.
02:01:50.000 And then they let them out again.
02:01:52.000 Our country is becoming a very dangerous place, and she is a radical left San Francisco liberal, and now she's trying to protect, now she's looking like she wants to be more Trump than Trump, if that's possible.
02:02:06.000 I don't think it's possible.
02:02:07.000 She's radical left, but she wants to be more Trump than Trump.
02:02:09.000 Yeah.
02:02:10.000 I want a wall.
02:02:11.000 You know, she wants to release all the prisoners that are in detention, and some of these guys are really bad.
02:02:17.000 That just came out today.
02:02:19.000 She doesn't want to build the wall, even though the walls work.
02:02:22.000 Walls and wheels.
02:02:23.000 You know, in your business, everything you do is obsolete.
02:02:26.000 Not the tunnels, but everything is obsolete.
02:02:28.000 Even your rocket ships, like a month later, they're obsolete.
02:02:32.000 You find a better way to...
02:02:33.000 The only thing that's not obsolete is a wall and a wheel.
02:02:36.000 And the wall, you know, I built hundreds of miles of wall, and that's why we had such good numbers.
02:02:43.000 I was going to add 200 miles.
02:02:45.000 We bought it.
02:02:46.000 We could have flipped it up in three weeks, and they sold it for five cents on the dollar.
02:02:52.000 That meant, I said, wow, that means that they actually do want to have open borders.
02:02:56.000 She wants to have open borders, and now she's going like she's tough on the border.
02:03:02.000 It's such a lie.
02:03:03.000 Yeah, this is simply not true.
02:03:04.000 This is simply not true.
02:03:05.000 Everybody knows it's not true.
02:03:06.000 It's a disgrace that she can say it.
02:03:09.000 No, I mean, obviously what's happening sort of overnight is they're rewriting history and making Kamala sound like a moderate when in fact she is far left, like far, far left.
02:03:21.000 Worse than Bernie Sanders.
02:03:23.000 She is considered more liberal by far than Bernie Sanders.
02:03:27.000 She's a radical left lunatic.
02:03:29.000 And if she's going to be our president...
02:03:32.000 Very quickly, you're not going to have a country anymore.
02:03:35.000 And she'll go back to all of the things that she believes in.
02:03:37.000 She believes in defunding the police.
02:03:39.000 She believes in no fracking.
02:03:41.000 Zero.
02:03:42.000 Now all of a sudden she's saying, no, I really want to see fracking.
02:03:48.000 If they got in, the day she got in, she'll end fracking.
02:03:52.000 And by the way, if people didn't think that, the lunatics that really believe in that, They won't vote for her.
02:03:59.000 You know, like the Palestinians and Israel.
02:04:04.000 She is so anti-Israel.
02:04:07.000 And she's bad for both.
02:04:08.000 Biden actually did something that was impossible.
02:04:11.000 Both sides hate him.
02:04:12.000 You know, both sides.
02:04:14.000 That was a hard thing to do.
02:04:15.000 Unification.
02:04:16.000 My husband's a Jewish man, and women demonstrate.
02:04:21.000 Netanyahu came to give a talk to a joint Senate and House sitting, and I was there, and Kamala stood him up.
02:04:30.000 What does that say?
02:04:32.000 I think it's highly disrespectful.
02:04:50.000 And you see tonight, I mean, as we're doing this, I'm seeing reports coming that they expect an attack tonight or tomorrow from hundreds and maybe thousands of rockets.
02:04:59.000 You know, their Iron Dome, as they call it, as we all call it, but their shield that they built, that can be...
02:05:07.000 Swamped.
02:05:08.000 We'll use the term that's appropriate.
02:05:10.000 Swamped.
02:05:10.000 But they swamp it by shooting enough missiles.
02:05:13.000 You know this better than anybody.
02:05:15.000 By shooting enough missiles, they can't defend themselves.
02:05:18.000 You know, they just obliterate the whole place.
02:05:20.000 And that's what some people think they're looking to do.
02:05:25.000 And we have no leadership.
02:05:26.000 There's no respect for the United States of America with these people.
02:05:30.000 And I'm telling you, you'll be worse than him.
02:05:32.000 Because he's a believer in being radical left, and he wasn't.
02:05:37.000 I think you're right.
02:05:39.000 It's important for the public that may be listening to this to look at Kamala's track record before the last month and say, is that a track record you agree with?
02:05:51.000 And I think if you're an independent moderate, you definitely would not agree with it because her behavior has been far left.
02:05:59.000 And we're seeing just an overnight propaganda attempt to rewrite history and make it sound like Kamala's moderate when she, in fact, is not moderate.
02:06:06.000 Well, her running mate approved, signed into legislation, tampons in boys' bathrooms, okay?
02:06:15.000 Now, that's all I have to hear.
02:06:17.000 Tampons in boys' bathrooms.
02:06:19.000 And that means she believes in that, too.
02:06:21.000 I mean, she picked this guy because he was the closest to her.
02:06:26.000 A lot of people thought she'd pick sort of the opposite.
02:06:29.000 But she picked an anti-Israel radical left person, but she is far worse, they say, than Bernie Sanders.
02:06:38.000 If we have her as a president, if we have a Democrat at this moment as a president, I don't think our country can survive.
02:06:46.000 I think we're in massive trouble, frankly, with the Kamala administration, and that's my honest opinion.
02:06:54.000 Kamala.
02:06:55.000 And I think really it's essential that you win for the good of the country this election.
02:07:04.000 I mean, that's understating my opinion.
02:07:07.000 Now, you know, you may have seen this, but I got a letter from the The EU Commission saying to not have disinformation during this discussion that we're having.
02:07:22.000 There's a lot of attempts to do censorship and to force censorship even on Americans from other countries.
02:07:31.000 What do you think about that?
02:07:33.000 Well, I know the European Union very well.
02:07:37.000 They take great advantage of the United States in trade, as you know.
02:07:42.000 We, through a different forum, NATO, we protect them.
02:07:46.000 And yet, if you build a car in the United States, you can't sell it in Europe.
02:07:51.000 You just can't sell it.
02:07:52.000 It's impossible.
02:07:53.000 The same thing with our farmers.
02:07:56.000 Our farmers find it very difficult to do business.
02:07:58.000 You know, we have a deficit with them of $250 billion, which people don't know.
02:08:03.000 It sounds so nice, the European Union, but let me tell you, they're...
02:08:08.000 Not as tough as China, but they're bad.
02:08:10.000 And I let them know it.
02:08:11.000 And that's probably why they notified you.
02:08:14.000 No, they don't treat our country well.
02:08:16.000 We defend them.
02:08:18.000 You know, with Ukraine, so we're in for $250 billion, and they're in for about $71 billion, and they have the same size.
02:08:26.000 If you add up the European nations in terms of an economy, it's about the same size, wouldn't you say, as us.
02:08:33.000 And they're in much greater risk.
02:08:38.000 They're right there.
02:08:39.000 We have an ocean separating us from, in this case, the enemy would be Russia.
02:08:44.000 Used to be for the Soviet Union, but let's assume they're close enough.
02:08:48.000 And what happens is they're in for 70-something million, I think even less than that, billion.
02:08:56.000 And we're in for about 250 billion, and it could be a lot higher than that.
02:09:03.000 And I say, why aren't you going to equalize?
02:09:04.000 Why aren't they paying what we're paying?
02:09:07.000 And they're in much more, you know, it's much more important for them because of the fact that, you know, they're right near there.
02:09:13.000 I mean, they're all sort of in that location.
02:09:15.000 We're not.
02:09:16.000 But they should, and I did it with NATO. We were, there were only seven countries that were paid up in NATO. Yeah.
02:09:45.000 Yeah, I think a lot of the public isn't aware of the fact that the United States pays a disproportionate share of the NATO expenses.
02:09:53.000 And then we get taken advantage of the trade.
02:09:56.000 But what's the reason for that?
02:09:57.000 The point of NATO is defending Europe and it's basically a US body that controls people.
02:10:04.000 Why is the United States paying disproportionately more to defend Europe than Europe?
02:10:08.000 That doesn't make sense.
02:10:09.000 That's unfair.
02:10:10.000 And that is an appropriate thing to address.
02:10:13.000 Well, you know, when you talk about cost-cutting and savings and everything else, I mean, honestly, look, there's nobody that feels worse about the Ukraine situation than I do because I know it would have never happened.
02:10:24.000 I know Zelensky, he was very honorable to me because when they went with the Russia hoax and they said I had a phone call with him, he said it was a perfect phone call.
02:10:32.000 It was a great phone call.
02:10:33.000 He could have grandstand it and, you know, said, oh, he was very threatening.
02:10:38.000 He said, no, it was a very nice phone call.
02:10:40.000 I called him up to congratulate him on his win.
02:10:43.000 And you end up getting impeached because these people are lunatics.
02:10:47.000 You know, I was talking about the difference from the people within and the enemies on the outside.
02:10:52.000 In many cases, the people from within are more dangerous for our country than the Russians and the Chinas.
02:10:59.000 If you have a smart president, you're not going to have a problem with them.
02:11:02.000 You're going to do things.
02:11:04.000 Now, they've taken advantage of us incredibly, but you're going to do things with the right person.
02:11:10.000 Yeah, well, I think it's obvious that you're a believer and an advocate of free speech because during your first time as president, you were attacked relentlessly every day, often very unfairly with false attacks.
02:11:23.000 And you didn't try to shut down the media.
02:11:25.000 You didn't try to inhibit their freedom of speech.
02:11:29.000 And I think that says a lot.
02:11:31.000 Well, the good thing is that you and I have, and some people, very few, we can get the word out.
02:11:38.000 Although sometimes it's hard because they don't want to print it, you know?
02:11:41.000 Like we're having a great conversation right now.
02:11:45.000 Kamala wouldn't have this conversation.
02:11:46.000 She can't because she's not smart.
02:11:48.000 You know, she's not a smart person, by the way.
02:11:50.000 She can't have this conversation.
02:11:52.000 And Biden, we don't even have to talk about it.
02:11:55.000 I mean, he couldn't have this conversation.
02:11:56.000 He would have given up on the first half of a question.
02:12:00.000 He would have walked out.
02:12:01.000 He would have said, where am I? Where am I going?
02:12:04.000 Not a lot of people would have this conversation, but, you know, we cover a lot of territory.
02:12:10.000 But the beauty is that, you know, we can have a conversation and This is a really big point.
02:12:20.000 You can actually have a conversation with you.
02:12:22.000 And you can't have a conversation with Biden or Kamala.
02:12:25.000 It's not possible.
02:12:28.000 This is like talking to an MPC, so it's just impossible.
02:12:32.000 But think of it.
02:12:33.000 We need a man...
02:12:35.000 Or a person who's unbelievably sharp in order to stop all the nuclear danger and all the dangers that I'm talking about.
02:12:42.000 And I got along with all this.
02:12:44.000 You know, I got along with Kim Jong-un.
02:12:45.000 We had dinner.
02:12:46.000 We had everything.
02:12:48.000 And he really liked me, and I got along with him really well.
02:12:51.000 By the way, he's the absolute boss over there.
02:12:54.000 You know, a lot of people said, oh, do you think he really...
02:12:55.000 Yeah, that's for sure.
02:12:57.000 Let me tell you, I saw things that you don't want to know about.
02:13:00.000 He is the boss.
02:13:01.000 Yeah.
02:13:01.000 But we had a good relationship.
02:13:03.000 And he doesn't like Biden.
02:13:06.000 He considers him a stupid man, he said.
02:13:08.000 He's a stupid man.
02:13:09.000 Well, at least he speaks his mind.
02:13:11.000 But, you know, in this country, you're not sort of allowed to say it.
02:13:14.000 But I guess you are.
02:13:15.000 You should be allowed to say it.
02:13:16.000 It's true.
02:13:16.000 But we need really, we need smart people.
02:13:19.000 And we need people that have an ability to lead.
02:13:23.000 And she doesn't have that ability.
02:13:25.000 Can you imagine?
02:13:26.000 Now, you know Chairman Xi very well.
02:13:28.000 Can you imagine her and him negotiating?
02:13:32.000 Even standing together, the whole concept is ridiculous.
02:13:36.000 She is terrible.
02:13:37.000 She's terrible.
02:13:38.000 But she's getting a free ride.
02:13:39.000 I saw a picture of her on Time Magazine today.
02:13:42.000 She looked like the most beautiful actress ever to live in.
02:13:45.000 It was a drawing.
02:13:47.000 And actually, she looked very much like our great first lady, Melania.
02:13:53.000 She didn't look like Camilla, that's right, but of course she's a beautiful woman, so we'll leave it at that, right?
02:14:02.000 You know, people in America want to feel excited and inspired about the future.
02:14:12.000 America's going to do things that are greater than we've done in the past.
02:14:16.000 Reach new heights that make you proud to be an American and excited about the future.
02:14:23.000 They want the American dream back.
02:14:25.000 You know, they want the American dream back more important than anything else.
02:14:29.000 It's It's like, you don't have that today because the people, they've been just sucked.
02:14:34.000 They see incompetent people running our...
02:14:37.000 You know, the Biden thing is very interesting.
02:14:40.000 People just found him to be incompetent.
02:14:42.000 And when I debated him, I was like...
02:14:45.000 Is this for real?
02:14:47.000 Yeah, it was just absurd.
02:14:50.000 But I think there are some grand projects that we could do.
02:14:56.000 I think we could build a base on the moon.
02:14:59.000 We could send American astronauts to Mars.
02:15:03.000 We'll build high-speed connections that are more advanced than anything else in the world between our cities so people have fast transport.
02:15:11.000 It's possible to solve traffic with tunnels.
02:15:15.000 We've already made great progress in Vegas doing that.
02:15:20.000 You know, and just do things that are exciting and inspiring and make the future feel like it's better than the best.
02:15:26.000 Well, I saw what you did in Vegas, and I'll tell you, it was amazing.
02:15:28.000 I got to see, I took a big glimpse at it, and it's incredible.
02:15:32.000 You know, it's incredible.
02:15:34.000 And you could do that all over.
02:15:35.000 You could do that all over.
02:15:37.000 It's deep?
02:15:38.000 Yeah.
02:15:38.000 You don't even need much structure, you know, assuming you're in the right area.
02:15:41.000 No, it's straightforward.
02:15:43.000 It's amazing.
02:15:44.000 I think we could do some things.
02:15:48.000 China's got incredible high-speed rail between its cities, but I think it's actually possible with tunnels, with deregulation, with an ability to actually...
02:15:59.000 Where it's legal to actually do the tunnels, then you could have high-speed tunnels that are actually better than anything else in the world for high-speed transport between cities.
02:16:10.000 And that would be something that Americans can say, wow, okay, we've got something that's cooler than anyone else in the world.
02:16:17.000 That's the kind of thing that makes you proud to be an American.
02:16:20.000 Safer than surface trains where there is a danger there, you know, with people, with crazy people.
02:16:26.000 It's much safer, much better.
02:16:28.000 And, you know, it's sad because I've seen some of the greatest trains.
02:16:32.000 I find it fascinating.
02:16:33.000 And I've seen the systems and how they work and the bullet trains, they call them, I guess.
02:16:37.000 And they go unbelievably fast, unbelievably comfortable, with no problems.
02:16:44.000 And we don't have anything like that in this country, not even close.
02:16:47.000 Yeah.
02:16:48.000 And it doesn't make sense that we don't.
02:16:50.000 It doesn't make sense.
02:16:51.000 Yeah, I think also, like, there's, you know, I'm kind of hopping on the excess regulation, but I think something that I think people can generally understand is that what happens with laws and regulations is that There's more and more of them every year, and unless there's a process to clean them up,
02:17:08.000 eventually everything becomes illegal, and that actually slows down the development of new technologies.
02:17:15.000 I think there's room for some reform at the FDA for improving the speed with which we approve drugs that could help save lives and improve people's lives.
02:17:29.000 I worked very hard on that.
02:17:30.000 We got that down to a To the lowest number ever.
02:17:34.000 And we got therapeutics approved in the FDA that people can't even believe the speed.
02:17:40.000 But I took them on.
02:17:42.000 I don't think they like me too much, but I got things approved in the FDA at numbers that they wouldn't believe.
02:17:49.000 You know, it's a very bureaucratic group.
02:17:52.000 Actually, it's a fine group of people in many cases.
02:17:55.000 I got to know a lot of them, but I was pushing them really hard for Regeneron, for so many different things that were really pretty amazing.
02:18:02.000 But the FDA takes too long.
02:18:05.000 It's 12 years to get a product approved.
02:18:07.000 I got it down to four, and I got some things done very quickly, but it's...
02:18:14.000 It's really something that is going to have to be worked on because it takes too long.
02:18:18.000 It just takes too long.
02:18:21.000 You end up in the same with the approval, but it just takes years instead of something that could potentially take months that improves people's lives.
02:18:34.000 I just wanted to hop on this point that there has to be an active process for reducing rules and regulations because otherwise they just keep building up every year and you get like hardening of the arteries and eventually everything's illegal or takes forever and then we just...
02:18:54.000 We just ossify as a society.
02:18:58.000 We can't make any progress.
02:19:00.000 And it's a really big deal.
02:19:02.000 Well, you know, Elon, just getting back to the FDA for one second, I've got something called Right to Try.
02:19:06.000 This is where you can go in, and if you're terminally ill, you can use a space-age medicine or whatever it may be.
02:19:14.000 We have the best doctors, the best labs in the world.
02:19:17.000 We really do.
02:19:18.000 But people would go to other countries because you couldn't use this, the product, even if they thought it worked, because it's going through the FDA. I got it approved where you can, you basically, look, nobody wanted it.
02:19:30.000 The doctors didn't want it because of the liability.
02:19:32.000 The country didn't want it.
02:19:33.000 Our country, because they didn't want to get sued.
02:19:35.000 These are people terminally ill.
02:19:36.000 The insurance companies didn't want it and the pharmaceutical companies, nobody wanted it.
02:19:41.000 I got everybody into a room and we came up with an agreement that you won't get sued.
02:19:46.000 And also, they didn't want it on their record.
02:19:48.000 If somebody's terminally ill and they die after taking a drug, they didn't want that on their record.
02:19:52.000 So we set a separate list so it wouldn't count as a negative.
02:19:58.000 And as you know, we have saved right to try.
02:20:01.000 They've been trying to get this done for...
02:20:04.000 58 years.
02:20:05.000 And it sounds simple, but it wasn't because, you know, I mean, you know, the insurance companies, nobody wanted it, but we got it done.
02:20:12.000 Somebody signs, you sign a document that you're not going to sue the insurance companies, the country, you're not going to sue anybody.
02:20:18.000 And we got it done.
02:20:20.000 And we're saving tens of thousands of lives right to try.
02:20:24.000 Hopefully you never need it.
02:20:25.000 But if you do, you don't have to travel to Asia.
02:20:28.000 You know, people, if they had money, they go to Asia, they go to Europe.
02:20:31.000 If they don't have money, they'd go home and die.
02:20:33.000 That's what happened.
02:20:34.000 They'd go home and die.
02:20:36.000 Well, I mean, actually, to give Europe some props here, it's like if a drug is approved in Europe, which has a crazy amount of regulations, it should obviously be approved in the U.S. I mean, they have more regulations than we do.
02:20:49.000 So why would a drug be approved in Europe and not in the U.S.? That's crazy.
02:20:53.000 We did something that really, they've been trying to do it for 50 years, and they just couldn't get it done, and I got it done.
02:20:59.000 And it's really something.
02:21:01.000 But you're right.
02:21:02.000 Some people go to Europe because a drug isn't approved here, but it's approved in Europe.
02:21:06.000 And it's a drug that, generally speaking, would work.
02:21:09.000 It's pretty crazy.
02:21:11.000 Absolutely.
02:21:11.000 You're right.
02:21:12.000 I think as long as people are properly informed of the pros and cons, and these are the risks, and you make your own decision, that makes sense.
02:21:22.000 Well, I think just, you know, in sort of closing up, and by the way, I'm looking at the numbers.
02:21:27.000 You've got a lot of people listening.
02:21:29.000 I hope you don't get nervous because you've got a lot of people listening to you right now, like 60 million or something.
02:21:35.000 What is that number?
02:21:36.000 It's crazy.
02:21:37.000 It's amazing how you can see that right away.
02:21:39.000 What is the number?
02:21:41.000 Wow.
02:21:41.000 What is the number?
02:21:43.000 It's 1.3.
02:21:44.000 I think it's 1.1 now.
02:21:45.000 Million.
02:21:47.000 Okay.
02:21:51.000 Well, that's bigger than you said.
02:21:53.000 You said 25, and you're much more than double that number, 25 million.
02:21:58.000 I think you're going to be 60 or 70.
02:22:00.000 And I guess over a period of time, hey, I congratulate you.
02:22:04.000 Do I get paid for this or not?
02:22:08.000 Yeah, 1.1 million in here.
02:22:09.000 I think there's a number of people that will hear this conversation.
02:22:13.000 Guys, we're going to do the news after this.
02:22:15.000 Stay tuned.
02:22:17.000 It's going to be 100%.
02:22:18.000 That's what they say.
02:22:19.000 Yeah, that's good.
02:22:20.000 Well, look, it's an honor.
02:22:22.000 But I just ask this.
02:22:23.000 Are you better off...
02:22:25.000 We're looking at the number of people who viewed the tweet.
02:22:27.000 Well, you're better off when I was president.
02:22:29.000 Nobody's better off now.
02:22:30.000 You know, we put out polls on that, and nobody's better off now.
02:22:34.000 Inflation has killed it.
02:22:35.000 There will have been about 20, 30 million people over now.
02:22:37.000 And you know, they also feel very unsafe.
02:22:38.000 You look at what's going on with a lot of different things.
02:22:41.000 You look at the riots we had at the colleges over, I mean, it's ridiculous.
02:22:45.000 Right.
02:22:45.000 All of the rights.
02:22:46.000 They just feel unsafe.
02:22:47.000 And now they really feel unsafe because you have a new form of crime.
02:22:50.000 It's called migrant crime.
02:22:51.000 I call it Biden migrant crime.
02:22:54.000 Maybe I'll call it Kamala migrant crime.
02:22:57.000 With all these things, I always try to get to the ground truth by just asking people.
02:23:02.000 And my mom lives in New York, and I was like...
02:23:05.000 Mom, have any of your friends been attacked or assaulted?
02:23:10.000 And she said, yeah, three of her friends in three separate incidents were assaulted just in recent months, just walking around the streets of New York.
02:23:17.000 And I said, well, what happened to the people that assaulted them?
02:23:22.000 Oh, nothing.
02:23:23.000 They got away.
02:23:25.000 They always get away.
02:23:27.000 Nothing's going to happen.
02:23:28.000 And they don't even bother reporting it because they know that people are not going to get prosecuted.
02:23:36.000 They just let violent criminals out in New York.
02:23:40.000 The only one that gets prosecuted is Donald Trump.
02:23:43.000 They prosecute Trump.
02:23:45.000 Yeah, I mean, it's...
02:23:46.000 It's just obviously messed up if violent criminals are getting off scot-free and meanwhile New York spending massive resources prosecuting you.
02:23:59.000 And I think the sensible public looks at this and says, what the heck is going on here?
02:24:07.000 This is obviously abuse of the legal system.
02:24:10.000 The legal system is supposed to be protecting the public.
02:24:14.000 We're good to go.
02:24:21.000 We're good to go.
02:24:36.000 And then you get a judge who's, you know, a strong Democrat.
02:24:40.000 And I'm being nice when I say that.
02:24:42.000 In many cases, crooked as hell.
02:24:44.000 But you get a judge and you go into an area where a Republican gets three or four percent of the vote.
02:24:49.000 And, you know, you'll have a jury pool with people that...
02:25:04.000 Yes, absolutely.
02:25:11.000 I lose a lot of business over what they did to me, because these people say, we don't want that to happen to us.
02:25:17.000 That's no justice system.
02:25:18.000 You have an unfair system of justice, and it's costing New York State a tremendous amount of money.
02:25:24.000 People are leaving, and companies are leaving, and they won't come back.
02:25:28.000 So, you know, all of that stuff is important, but the economy now is the big thing, and we can turn that economy up so fast.
02:25:35.000 And people are going to be back again.
02:25:36.000 We're going to get rid of inflation.
02:25:38.000 I think there's a lot of opportunity.
02:25:39.000 Absolutely.
02:25:41.000 And I just want to congratulate you.
02:25:43.000 You've done an amazing job.
02:25:45.000 You have definitely got a fertile mind.
02:25:48.000 You and I can talk about rockets.
02:25:51.000 We can talk about tunnels and rockets and electric cars, so many things.
02:25:57.000 And now you're into the AI, and that's going to be another beauty, I'll say.
02:26:02.000 So it's an amazing thing you've done, Elon.
02:26:06.000 It's an amazing thing, and I congratulate you.
02:26:09.000 I mean, thank you.
02:26:10.000 Well, I mean, I just say, you know, here's to an exciting, inspiring future that people can look forward to and be optimistic and excited about what happens next.
02:26:19.000 And that's the kind of future that I think you will bring as president, and that's why I endorsed you.
02:26:23.000 Well, I appreciate that.
02:26:24.000 That endorsement meant a lot to me.
02:26:27.000 Not all endorsements mean that much, to be honest.
02:26:29.000 Your endorsement meant a lot.
02:26:31.000 And, you know, we have a phrase, make America great again.
02:26:33.000 It's pretty simple, but it really says that we want to make America great again.
02:26:36.000 And we can do it.
02:26:38.000 We can do it now, but if we were going to suffer another four years like we suffered for the last four years, I'm not sure the country can ever come back.
02:26:47.000 That's how bad it is.
02:26:48.000 It's so bad.
02:26:48.000 We have to do a lot of things.
02:26:50.000 I think that's a very real risk.
02:26:51.000 It's a big risk.
02:26:52.000 That's a very real risk.
02:26:54.000 I'd just like to note to people listening, I've not been very political before, and if you look at my record, I've actually been...
02:27:03.000 I'm not like...
02:27:04.000 They've tried to paint me as a far-right guy, which is absurd, because I'm making electric vehicles and solar and batteries, helping with the environment, and I actually...
02:27:15.000 I supported Obama.
02:27:18.000 I stood in line for six hours to shake Obama's hand when he was running for president.
02:27:22.000 You know, so it's not like I'm like some sort of guy in the wall.
02:27:26.000 I call myself historically a moderate Democrat.
02:27:31.000 But now I feel like we're really at a critical juncture for the country.
02:27:38.000 And, you know, I think a lot of people thought, you know, the Biden administration would be a moderate administration, but it's not.
02:27:45.000 And obviously, we're just going to see a An even further left administration with Kamala, that's my honest opinion.
02:27:57.000 I mean, her dad is literally, I mean, she was brought up as an actual, her dad is a Marxist economist.
02:28:04.000 You can Google it.
02:28:05.000 I mean, it's not a, we're not making this up, you know.
02:28:08.000 That's how she was brought up.
02:28:09.000 So, we just, we want to have a future that is prosperous, and I think we're just at this critical juncture, and I think this is a case of America is at a fork in the road.
02:28:28.000 You are the path to prosperity, and I think Kamala is the opposite.
02:28:37.000 I'm going to get attacked like crazy.
02:28:39.000 I've also experienced quite a bit of low fare myself, but I'm just trying to tell people my honest opinion.
02:28:47.000 I haven't been really active in politics before, and I'm just trying to point out that my track record historically has been moderate, if not moderate, slightly left.
02:28:56.000 And so this is to people out there who are in the moderate camp to say, I think you should support Donald Trump for president.
02:29:05.000 And I think it's actually a very important junction in the road, and we're in deep trouble if it goes the other way.
02:29:11.000 Well, I want to thank you.
02:29:13.000 And, you know, I actually always did think of you as somewhat left.
02:29:16.000 I must say that.
02:29:17.000 So it's more of an honor to have your endorsement.
02:29:20.000 I know how strong you feel about it.
02:29:22.000 But, you know, when you think of her, San Francisco, 15 years ago, had a great friend, Bob Tish.
02:29:27.000 He said it's the greatest city in America.
02:29:30.000 And now it's almost not livable there.
02:29:34.000 And California likewise.
02:29:36.000 And she was involved in the destruction of San Francisco and the destruction of California.
02:29:40.000 And she will be involved in the destruction of our country if people are so unwise as to elect her.
02:29:48.000 And I hope that doesn't happen.
02:29:50.000 And I hope the elections are going to be run honestly and...
02:29:54.000 We're going to turn this country around.
02:29:56.000 We're going to do things that...
02:29:57.000 And we can do it fairly quickly.
02:29:59.000 And we have to get rid of the criminals that have been, you know, given to us by other countries as they laugh.
02:30:04.000 They laugh at us.
02:30:05.000 They think we're stupid to accept these people.
02:30:07.000 These are radical, stone-cold killers in many cases.
02:30:12.000 And terrorists.
02:30:13.000 And they're in our country by the hundreds of thousands.
02:30:17.000 And we have to take them out.
02:30:19.000 Yeah, I mean, if I could summarize it, perhaps, you know, I think these are issues that I think most people in America would agree with, which is that we want safe and clean cities.
02:30:31.000 We want secure borders.
02:30:33.000 We want sensible government spending.
02:30:35.000 We want to restore both the perception and reality of respect in the judicial system.
02:30:42.000 Just, you know, stop the lawfare.
02:30:47.000 And how are those even right-wing positions?
02:30:51.000 I think that's just common sense.
02:30:55.000 Would you agree with that?
02:30:57.000 100%.
02:30:58.000 I don't understand.
02:31:00.000 They call it progressive.
02:31:02.000 They don't like the word liberal anymore, but call it Liberal or progressive.
02:31:06.000 I don't understand how somebody could say that it's okay for them to empty prisons into our country.
02:31:11.000 And again, I told you, their crime rates all over the world are going way down, which makes sense.
02:31:15.000 In fact, the next time what we'll do is if something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, We'll meet the next time in Venezuela because it'll be a far safer place to meet than our country, okay?
02:31:27.000 So we'll go, you and I will go and we'll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela because that's what's happening.
02:31:32.000 Their crime rate's coming down and our crime rate's going through the roof and it's so simple.
02:31:37.000 And if you haven't seen anything yet, because these people have come into our country and they're just getting acclimated.
02:31:44.000 Yeah.
02:31:46.000 Yeah.
02:31:53.000 Yeah.
02:32:00.000 Absolutely.
02:32:01.000 And it's obviously demoralizing if you're a police officer risking your life to arrest violent criminals who could kill you and do kill you sometimes.
02:32:11.000 And then you arrest a violent criminal and then the DA doesn't prosecute and then just let the guy out.
02:32:19.000 Why should a police officer risk their life?
02:32:25.000 Well, even worse, they prosecute the police officer.
02:32:31.000 They go after him and they prosecute the police officer and they take away his pension.
02:32:36.000 They take away his job.
02:32:37.000 He loses his family.
02:32:39.000 He loses his house.
02:32:41.000 Well, I thought it was very telling, like incredibly telling that, you know, when there was a case where, you know, sort of a gang of thugs beat up police officers, I think it was in Times Square in New York, and then nothing happened to those guys.
02:32:58.000 They were let out, zero bail, and I think a bunch of them were given free tickets to California.
02:33:03.000 Well, what is that?
02:33:04.000 I mean, that is...
02:33:06.000 There's a gross indignity against the United States, and that's how...
02:33:11.000 I mean, this is insane.
02:33:12.000 Like, have we lost all pride?
02:33:15.000 How can such a thing be allowed to occur?
02:33:17.000 I've never seen anything...
02:33:18.000 You know, we see where they get shot.
02:33:20.000 It's a very dangerous profession, but it's something they're very proud of, and they want to be able to do their job.
02:33:25.000 But I've seen them get shot.
02:33:26.000 I've seen a lot of things.
02:33:27.000 But I've never seen where these guys are standing in the middle of a big street...
02:33:32.000 Everybody watching them, and they're literally boxing, like punching, stand-up fighting.
02:33:38.000 A police officer, there were two of them, and you had about six of these guys, and they're punching the hell out of them.
02:33:43.000 And in their own country, they would be dead if they did that.
02:33:47.000 They'd be shot.
02:33:48.000 They would be shot instantly.
02:33:50.000 And, you know, they come from these countries, and it's taking them a while to realize that we don't do that in this country.
02:33:56.000 But in their own country, if they stood on a street and had a fight with a police officer, they would be shot.
02:34:02.000 There's no political correctness.
02:34:04.000 And it's such a sad thing to see.
02:34:08.000 And that's the reason you have crime, by the way, because we don't do anything about it.
02:34:12.000 Yeah, we just cannot have a situation where our police officers are beaten up on camera by, you know, a gang of illegal immigrants, and then nothing happens to the guys that beat up the cops.
02:34:24.000 I mean, and they're let out.
02:34:25.000 This is unacceptable.
02:34:27.000 Well, we're going to change it, and we're going to get them out of the country.
02:34:30.000 You know, when I first got involved, they said you couldn't get them back to these countries.
02:34:34.000 You couldn't take them back.
02:34:34.000 In the case of Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, some others, You couldn't get them back.
02:34:41.000 And I said, really?
02:34:42.000 Oh, you can't get them back.
02:34:43.000 Because under Obama, he couldn't get them back.
02:34:45.000 They'd fly them in and they'd put planes on the runways in these countries so you couldn't land the plane.
02:34:50.000 They'd bring them back.
02:34:51.000 And the general told me, the generals told me, sir, we can't bring them back.
02:34:55.000 The countries won't accept MS-13 gang members.
02:34:58.000 They won't accept them.
02:34:59.000 And I said, really?
02:34:59.000 How much do we pay these various countries...
02:35:03.000 We're good to go.
02:35:19.000 We would be honored to take them back, sir.
02:35:21.000 We would be honored.
02:35:22.000 It was so easy.
02:35:23.000 But it's one of those things.
02:35:25.000 And we got them back.
02:35:25.000 We took in so many...
02:35:26.000 You know, MS-13 is probably the worst gangs in the world.
02:35:30.000 They're the most vicious violent.
02:35:31.000 We took them out of here by the thousands and got them out of here.
02:35:35.000 And their countries took them back.
02:35:37.000 And because I said, you're not getting any more economic aid.
02:35:41.000 And once I said that, they were nice.
02:35:43.000 They wouldn't take them back for Obama.
02:35:45.000 They wouldn't take them back for anybody.
02:35:47.000 And now we have a problem because we have this guy and they, again, they don't take him back anymore with Biden because they don't respect him.
02:35:56.000 Yeah, so it's just got to be done.
02:35:59.000 We just can't have, whether they're citizens or not citizens, we can't have, because they weren't prosecuted citizens either, not just legals.
02:36:10.000 So you can't have violent, repeat violent offenders that don't get incarcerated because they will obviously, by definition, And I think where part of this comes from is that there's,
02:36:32.000 and I do sort of consider myself liberal in some ways.
02:36:35.000 I mean, it's just that you want to have empathy for people.
02:36:38.000 Obviously, you want to have empathy for people.
02:36:40.000 I totally agree with that.
02:36:41.000 You want to have empathy.
02:36:43.000 But you also have to have empathy for the victims of the criminals.
02:36:46.000 And if you just have empathy for the criminals, it's actually shallow empathy.
02:36:50.000 It's not real.
02:36:51.000 You're not thinking.
02:36:52.000 You have one layer deep empathy.
02:36:56.000 You've got to say, like, if you don't incarcerate this person, who are they going to...
02:37:02.000 Hurt.
02:37:02.000 They might kill someone.
02:37:04.000 They might rape someone.
02:37:05.000 If you don't incarcerate them, you have to have empathy for the victims.
02:37:09.000 And there's a lack of empathy for the victims of the criminals and too much empathy for the criminals.
02:37:15.000 It doesn't make sense.
02:37:16.000 That's why you want to have deep empathy for society as a whole, not shallow empathy for criminals.
02:37:23.000 And we have to give our police officers the dignity and the respect that they deserve and we have to let them do their job.
02:37:30.000 They can do a great job But we have to let them do their job.
02:37:34.000 And if we don't do that, you know, it's going to all disappear.
02:37:38.000 There's never been a society like this where you're allowed to do anything you want and nothing happens.
02:37:44.000 And I'm talking about violent crime.
02:37:46.000 And it's going to get more violent because these are really, really violent people.
02:37:51.000 And we're going to get them out of our country and we're going to get them back to where...
02:37:54.000 Because they were sent here by the presidents and by the various people that run those countries.
02:37:59.000 And I know every one of those guys.
02:38:00.000 And they're smart people.
02:38:02.000 And they're streetwise people.
02:38:03.000 And they really think that The USA is stupid.
02:38:07.000 They think we're run by stupid people, and they happen to be right.
02:38:10.000 But when I was there, we had no problem.
02:38:13.000 We got them out.
02:38:13.000 We took out thousands of MS-13 gang members.
02:38:16.000 We brought them back.
02:38:17.000 And now, again, it's the same old story.
02:38:20.000 We don't do it.
02:38:21.000 And they actually gave them a big increase in aid.
02:38:24.000 They raised it up to billions of dollars, and they get nothing for it.
02:38:28.000 So, you know, I hope everybody's going to vote for Trump and we're going to get this country...
02:38:34.000 And I didn't need this.
02:38:35.000 I'm like, I didn't need this.
02:38:37.000 I had a very nice life.
02:38:38.000 I didn't need to go through court systems and go through all the other stuff and run at the same time.
02:38:43.000 I have to run.
02:38:44.000 I have to go through fake trials with, in some cases, corrupt judges, totally corrupt judges.
02:38:50.000 I didn't need it.
02:38:51.000 I had a nice life.
02:38:52.000 I have great locations.
02:38:54.000 I have beautiful oceans that I have places.
02:38:57.000 But I felt it was important.
02:38:59.000 And if I had to do it over again...
02:39:03.000 You probably think I'm crazy for doing it, actually.
02:39:05.000 But if I had to do it over again, I would have done it over again.
02:39:08.000 Because this is so much more important than me or my life.
02:39:12.000 This is...
02:39:12.000 We're gonna save this country.
02:39:14.000 This country is going down.
02:39:15.000 And these people are bad people that we're running against, and they're liars.
02:39:20.000 They make statements.
02:39:21.000 They do things that are so bad.
02:39:24.000 They say they're gonna make a strong border.
02:39:27.000 They say they've been great on the border, and they've been the worst in history.
02:39:31.000 They say they're going to stop crime.
02:39:33.000 The facts speak for themselves.
02:39:34.000 It's so incredible.
02:39:36.000 It's got to the point where people just don't even bother reporting crime in a lot of cities because they know nothing is going to happen.
02:39:43.000 That's what I hear anecdotally from people all the time.
02:39:48.000 My values, I'm just saying to people out there, the things I think are important for the future is we've got to have safe cities, we've got to have secure borders, we've got to have sensible spending, and we've got to have You know, deregulation.
02:40:03.000 So we can have a prosperous future.
02:40:05.000 And then we want to have some exciting, you know, sort of moonshot projects that people get fired up about.
02:40:11.000 And, you know, that's the future I'm looking for.
02:40:14.000 And, you know, I'm pro-environment, but I'm not against...
02:40:20.000 I don't think we should vilify the oil and gas industry because they're keeping civilization going right now.
02:40:26.000 But I do think we want to move at a reasonable speed towards a sustainable energy economy.
02:40:32.000 Those are my values.
02:40:35.000 Making money is your value.
02:40:37.000 So, I mean, that's why I'm supporting you for president, you know?
02:40:44.000 Well, I appreciate it.
02:40:44.000 We're going to give incentive to companies to come into our country, not to leave our country.
02:40:51.000 We're going to be giving tremendous incentives.
02:40:54.000 We want companies to build here, not to build in other locations.
02:40:57.000 And we want to create jobs.
02:40:59.000 And again, it's about the American dream.
02:41:02.000 You don't hear about the American dream anymore, Elon.
02:41:04.000 You don't hear, you're the American dream in the truest sense.
02:41:07.000 But you don't hear about the American dream anymore, and you're going to hear about it.
02:41:11.000 People, they need that incentive to go out and do it, and they're going to love their lives.
02:41:17.000 I mean, they're going to look forward to getting up in the morning and going to a job that they love, not a job that they can't stand, or not...
02:41:27.000 We're good to go.
02:41:43.000 The smart people, the dumb people, the people that can do things.
02:41:46.000 You know, you learn.
02:41:47.000 When I first came in, I tell people I was in Washington, D.C. only 17 times, according to the fake news media.
02:41:54.000 I was in 17 times.
02:41:56.000 I never stayed over.
02:41:57.000 And you don't know people.
02:41:58.000 You rely on other people to give your names, and then you realize the people you relied on weren't so good.
02:42:03.000 Now, we had great people, but we also had some where I wouldn't have used them had I known.
02:42:08.000 Now I know everybody.
02:42:09.000 And I think we're going to...
02:42:11.000 We're going to really turn things around fast.
02:42:13.000 We have no choice, otherwise we're not going to have a country.
02:42:16.000 And I really appreciate this has been, to me, it's been a lot of fun being with you.
02:42:20.000 You're an amazing guy.
02:42:22.000 You've done an incredible job and a great inspiration to people.
02:42:25.000 A great inspiration.
02:42:27.000 I hope you keep going and just continue to do well.
02:42:31.000 And we're going to have a big election coming up.
02:42:33.000 And I think November 5th will be the most important day in the history of our country.
02:42:39.000 I think that election will be the most important election.
02:42:41.000 And I think it'll end up being maybe the most important day in the history of our country.
02:42:46.000 Because if we don't win, I just feel so sorry for everybody.
02:42:51.000 No, I think we're at a fork in the road of destiny, of civilization.
02:42:56.000 And I think we need to take the right path.
02:43:01.000 And I think you're the right path.
02:43:03.000 So I think that's what it comes down to.
02:43:05.000 Thank you very much, Elon.
02:43:06.000 It's a great honor.
02:43:07.000 And we'll do it again sometime.
02:43:09.000 And it's been really fun.
02:43:11.000 And I hope you got a lot of viewers.
02:43:13.000 I hear you got a lot.
02:43:15.000 I know you got a lot of them.
02:43:18.000 So I appreciate it.
02:43:20.000 I'll see you soon.
02:43:22.000 Alright, sounds good.
02:43:23.000 Thank you.
02:43:24.000 Thank you, Elon.
02:43:25.000 Thank you very much.
02:43:25.000 Bye.
02:43:30.000 That was two hours of some good information, I believe.
02:43:36.000 First thoughts on this?
02:43:37.000 I guess you could bring this up, but I mean, man, that was...
02:43:42.000 Different.
02:43:43.000 I mean, it wasn't...
02:43:46.000 Groundbreaking.
02:43:47.000 Yeah, it wasn't groundbreaking.
02:43:48.000 There wasn't any kind of new pieces of information.
02:43:50.000 I think he went into some details.
02:43:52.000 I think there's a lot to talk about what happened in that interview.
02:43:57.000 Some lies?
02:43:59.000 Well, as an example, I'll wait for some of the points for Maren to come back.
02:44:03.000 But as an example, just to start off, I made a lot of notes, right?
02:44:06.000 But the point is...
02:44:09.000 When you look at the interview and you look at the scenario, first of all, let's understand what's happened here.
02:44:15.000 What's happened is you've basically got the CEO of a social media platform, which is meant to be an unbiased platform, right?
02:44:23.000 It's meant to have completely equality, endorsing one specific side.
02:44:29.000 Now, with that comes the problem of, like, is Twitter a really fair platform where you're going to get both views?
02:44:38.000 Many people on the left argue that they don't get the same level of engagement that people do in the right.
02:44:42.000 And I know that's the same problem that you've got in Rumble as well, where, I mean, Rumble is very much a right platform.
02:44:47.000 Is there anyone on the left on Rumble?
02:44:49.000 There are a few, but not to speak of.
02:44:52.000 A very small amount.
02:44:53.000 I don't even know anyone.
02:44:56.000 See, the channel's definitely not on my radar.
02:44:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:45:01.000 So, my point is, and so, Twitter's like that.
02:45:03.000 So, don't get me wrong, like, there are people on the left, but when I look at Twitter, it is moved way too, way a lot to the right.
02:45:10.000 But at least with Twitter, you have this scenario where anyone can grow, anyone can do well, anyone can go big.
02:45:15.000 Like, I went big on Twitter.
02:45:16.000 I'm not...
02:45:16.000 I wouldn't say I'm really...
02:45:18.000 Fart on the right.
02:45:19.000 Probably some aspects I'm in the left and some aspects in the right.
02:45:22.000 Probably more towards the left.
02:45:23.000 Anyone can do well.
02:45:24.000 Anyone can go big.
02:45:25.000 Like, I went big on Twitter.
02:45:28.000 Fart on the right.
02:45:29.000 What's better than speaking is hearing yourself.
02:45:32.000 On the right.
02:45:32.000 On the left.
02:45:33.000 Anyone can do well.
02:45:34.000 Me yourself, bro.
02:45:35.000 In the back.
02:45:36.000 Yeah, some feedback.
02:45:37.000 Maybe to Twitter.
02:45:39.000 On the right.
02:45:39.000 What's better than speaking is hearing yourself.
02:45:42.000 On the right.
02:45:42.000 On the left.
02:45:44.000 Guys, you're getting to hear me twice.
02:45:46.000 Maybe to Twitter.
02:45:50.000 Dream come true.
02:45:51.000 Next level of knowledge given to you not once, but twice.
02:45:55.000 You're getting to hear me twice.
02:45:58.000 Sorted?
02:45:58.000 Yeah.
02:45:59.000 Alright, we're sorted.
02:46:00.000 We're sorted.
02:46:00.000 Technically, they've got a team here.
02:46:01.000 They've got a team here.
02:46:02.000 It isn't like when I'm doing it and I'm running around trying to figure out what's going on.
02:46:05.000 But you know what was apparent about that whole conversation with Elon?
02:46:08.000 He has a lot of self-interest.
02:46:09.000 Like, he could even hide it.
02:46:12.000 It was more like, okay, yes, I'm hearing what you're saying, Trump, but make sure we do this, this, and this, and this is important to me.
02:46:18.000 And it's like, he's a billionaire.
02:46:19.000 He doesn't share our common interests.
02:46:22.000 So I'm kind of like, bro, this is about you, not really about us.
02:46:25.000 You just hit the nail on the head.
02:46:27.000 If you look at a decent part of that conversation, and look, just don't be emotional.
02:46:32.000 I know we've got Elon fanboys and we've got Trump fanboys, but just wake up and just think about it logically, right?
02:46:38.000 He spends, he basically, he mentions about being part of somebody and he's like, oh, I'd like to be part of that.
02:46:43.000 He talks about deregulation.
02:46:45.000 What's the reason for deregulation is so that he can then provide services without having to go through the many regulation barrier.
02:46:54.000 Remember, this is the same MAGA movement That has complained significantly about COVID and have complained that the vaccine was put through too quickly with minimal regulations because normally vaccines go through a decent amount of regulatory process that the red tape was removed,
02:47:14.000 regulation didn't happen and therefore the vaccine is dangerous.
02:47:17.000 This is the argument that you get from...
02:47:19.000 People who are Trump fans.
02:47:21.000 And people from the right.
02:47:23.000 And yet here the argument is that he wants deregulation.
02:47:25.000 Now I'm not saying Trump agreed to that because he obviously didn't agree to that.
02:47:28.000 But I'm saying if he did agree to that, that would kind of go against this idea or perspective that people in the market movement have.
02:47:36.000 In addition to that, if you look at Elon's actions throughout the world, They're not about what's right, what's wrong, other than his kind of control from certain type of people.
02:47:48.000 Let's put that aside.
02:47:49.000 Separate to that, what he is about is which country is going to give him access as an individual so he can make money.
02:47:58.000 So Javier Maler, he loves Javier Maler, right?
02:48:01.000 He mentioned it on the interview just now.
02:48:04.000 Javier Miller is what?
02:48:05.000 He is somebody who is just a massive, he just lets Elon take resources from his country.
02:48:10.000 They've got lithium deals, I believe, or they're negotiating them.
02:48:14.000 They get basically things that are financially benefit him.
02:48:17.000 But if you look at what Javier Miller has done to the country, he has absolutely destroyed the country, right?
02:48:22.000 The economy is on its knees.
02:48:25.000 He basically removed the subsidies.
02:48:28.000 And then what happened was that caused hyperinflation in the country.
02:48:32.000 People are starving.
02:48:35.000 I think he removed 70,000 jobs.
02:48:38.000 Pensions.
02:48:39.000 He removed like 30% of pensions or something.
02:48:41.000 Damn.
02:48:41.000 And so the country is in extreme recession.
02:48:45.000 Right?
02:48:45.000 Or moving towards recession.
02:48:47.000 So Javier Maler, since he's been in charge, has completely destroyed the country.
02:48:51.000 But why is it...
02:48:54.000 That these two individuals are praising him.
02:48:56.000 For Elon Musk, it's self-interest.
02:48:58.000 For Donald Trump, obviously, we know it's because Javier Mellor is a massive Donald Trump fan.
02:49:04.000 But in addition to that...
02:49:06.000 Again, Javier Miller is a Zionist.
02:49:10.000 He does go to Israel significantly.
02:49:12.000 He did convert to Judaism.
02:49:13.000 All of these have major factors that are showing this kind of aspect of where Elon supports someone and where sometimes Donald Trump supports someone.
02:49:22.000 You saw in the interview, right?
02:49:25.000 Musk didn't even mention Israel.
02:49:26.000 If anything, he was trying to deflect away from that conversation.
02:49:28.000 And why I'm mentioning that is this.
02:49:30.000 Look, everybody knows my position on this.
02:49:32.000 But let's not talk about my position.
02:49:34.000 Let's not talk about my ideas or thoughts.
02:49:36.000 But let's look at it from a U.S. election perspective.
02:49:40.000 From a U.S. election perspective, you have, and I travel the U.S., and I speak to people from the left and from the far left, who actually are the left and far left.
02:49:50.000 Many of them said, we're not going to vote for Biden.
02:49:53.000 Like what he has done in terms of Israel and Gaza, we just as humans cannot vote for him.
02:49:59.000 That entire voter base, which isn't just Muslims, actually the vast majority of people I spoke to weren't Muslims.
02:50:06.000 That entire voter base is ready to vote for a president who is Not going to be for war.
02:50:16.000 Who is going to be for peace.
02:50:18.000 Right?
02:50:19.000 So he has this opportunity.
02:50:21.000 If I was advising Trump, I would have been like, look, Israel and Palestine, like, don't even talk about it.
02:50:26.000 And then people will think that you're better.
02:50:28.000 And just say, look, I'm going to end the war.
02:50:30.000 I'm going to end it.
02:50:31.000 I'm going to end the...
02:50:32.000 Like, just use those...
02:50:33.000 That way you don't offend the Israelis and you don't offend the Palestinians.
02:50:36.000 So this is another example of those people who are around him and not putting his interests in place.
02:50:41.000 So either...
02:50:42.000 The election is already guaranteed for him because I don't believe the elections are legit.
02:50:47.000 I don't either, honestly.
02:50:49.000 Or, the plan is for Kamala to win.
02:50:53.000 Other than that, it makes no sense that he's making these terrible decisions.
02:50:57.000 Yeah, I just find it funny that Elon's whole spiel was self-interest, and it was good to have that talk between the conversations, but you could just tell he was all about self-interest for sure.
02:51:08.000 Oh, he was, yeah, for sure.
02:51:10.000 Yeah, I mean, let's make no mistake about it.
02:51:12.000 And this is another example of Silicon Valley tech people coming in and getting on the Trump wagon, right?
02:51:18.000 For their business.
02:51:20.000 For their business and then everything else like that.
02:51:23.000 The thing I think, for me, that stuck out the most during this interview, or this discussion, was Trump saying what I've been saying for a couple of weeks now, that foreign policy is by far the most pressing and most important issue in this election.
02:51:39.000 Immigration's cool, obviously inflation, everything else like that, but that stuff...
02:51:44.000 I don't want to sound like a jerk here, but if you're poor, it doesn't matter if Trump comes in office, he's not going to save you.
02:51:51.000 If you're rich and Trump comes in office, you're more than likely going to stay rich.
02:51:54.000 He'll probably help you with your taxes, right?
02:51:56.000 He's very real estate friendly and small business owner friendly.
02:52:01.000 The reality is, where you are economically isn't contingent upon who's in office, right?
02:52:06.000 But, right, because that's in your control, if you're going to make money or be a brokie or not.
02:52:10.000 But what's not in your control is foreign policy, because the commander in chief runs that, right?
02:52:16.000 And I like the fact that Trump highlighted the fact that he's able to go ahead and get along, or at best, quell Hostile situations with adversaries, right?
02:52:28.000 He comes into office when Obama's done.
02:52:31.000 What's the biggest problem?
02:52:32.000 North Korea.
02:52:33.000 What does he do?
02:52:34.000 He meets with Kim Jong-un, right?
02:52:37.000 Maybe they might not be the best of friends, but there was a mutual respect there.
02:52:40.000 Like, look, you know what?
02:52:42.000 I like you, you like me.
02:52:44.000 Our nations don't have to have, you know, the issues that we've had before.
02:52:49.000 Because I remember...
02:52:51.000 Because Obama came in in 2008.
02:52:52.000 He left in 2016.
02:52:55.000 He was there for eight years.
02:52:58.000 And I was in high school and then college throughout the entire process.
02:53:01.000 And I remember North Korea in the news all the fucking time.
02:53:04.000 Nuclear program.
02:53:05.000 They don't want to comply with this.
02:53:06.000 They don't want to comply with that.
02:53:08.000 Tensions arise.
02:53:10.000 Obama did not get along with North Korea whatsoever.
02:53:12.000 And I'm glad that Trump was able to come in and kind of deal with that.
02:53:14.000 And they took those iconic photos when they met.
02:53:19.000 Russia, right?
02:53:20.000 People can talk all the shit they want.
02:53:21.000 I was in a space with some liberal morons.
02:53:24.000 Oh, well, you know, Trump came into office and he didn't stop the conflicts in Ukraine.
02:53:30.000 Well, those conflicts began when Obama was in.
02:53:33.000 If we want to talk about Russia coming in and taking over Crimea or whatever else in 2014, or the coup that happened, that was all under Obama, and that was our CIA that was involved in that.
02:53:42.000 We put Zelensky in place.
02:53:43.000 So...
02:53:45.000 I think, and then also Trump's like, he didn't support NATO like that, right?
02:53:49.000 He talked about this.
02:53:50.000 Hey, these guys gotta start paying up, etc.
02:53:52.000 I think that was a big part in, and then obviously mutual respect as well.
02:53:57.000 I think that was a big part in Putin not invading Ukraine.
02:54:02.000 But he saw an opening.
02:54:03.000 Biden's an idiot.
02:54:04.000 He's a moron.
02:54:05.000 He's super pro-Ukraine that keeps encroaching closer to Moscow.
02:54:09.000 They have biological weapons here.
02:54:12.000 They're flirting with Ukraine, becoming a member of NATO. All this shit, right?
02:54:17.000 Violating the Minsk agreements, all this stuff.
02:54:19.000 So Putin was like, fuck this.
02:54:20.000 I'm going to go in and I'm going to make sure that NATO expansion doesn't continue.
02:54:25.000 Because for many years...
02:54:27.000 If you guys watched the interview that he did with Tucker Carlson, by the way, for many years, Puna warned, hey, stop getting closer to Moscow.
02:54:35.000 You guys promised that you weren't going to expand the NATO border, and they kept fucking doing it.
02:54:40.000 So, of course he's going to invade, right?
02:54:43.000 And then Israel on October 7th, right?
02:54:46.000 Obviously, we didn't hate...
02:54:48.000 I mean, Iran has always been an adversary for us.
02:54:51.000 But, you know, hey, China, you can't buy oil from Iran, right?
02:54:53.000 So at least he kept in a position where they weren't making as much money so they couldn't go ahead and help the Hamases and Hezbollahs and other places that have issues with Israel.
02:55:02.000 But regardless, I think his foreign policy at least kept...
02:55:08.000 Wars at bay.
02:55:09.000 Yeah.
02:55:10.000 I think for Trump, what he did was he was smart about things.
02:55:13.000 You know the saying, if you can't beat him, join him?
02:55:15.000 He said, you know what?
02:55:16.000 If I can negotiate, I can stop the fighting.
02:55:18.000 And at least on that standpoint, he was able to push back the war.
02:55:21.000 But Biden, of course, puppet.
02:55:23.000 Kamala's going to be a puppet as well.
02:55:25.000 And then it's like, hold on.
02:55:26.000 You want to elect Kamala over Trump?
02:55:27.000 Well, guess what?
02:55:28.000 They won't respect her either.
02:55:31.000 To me, they respect Trump all the way.
02:55:34.000 So if you can negotiate with them and talk to them, they'll back down.
02:55:36.000 But Kamala?
02:55:36.000 What are you going to negotiate?
02:55:38.000 I don't think foreign powers are going to respect Kamala as a leader at all.
02:55:41.000 As a woman?
02:55:42.000 Come on, bro.
02:55:43.000 It's already bad enough she's a female.
02:55:44.000 Let's just keep it a million.
02:55:45.000 It's already bad enough she's a female.
02:55:47.000 And then on top of that, she's an incompetent female?
02:55:49.000 Bro, she's going to say the same thing.
02:55:50.000 What did you say the other time?
02:55:51.000 The time to be was the time to go.
02:55:54.000 Tomorrow's time is the time.
02:55:55.000 Yeah, we are unburdened by a burden by C or some dumb shit like that.
02:55:59.000 Bro!
02:56:00.000 Something like that.
02:56:00.000 So I just think that at that point, Trump was a G because he held it down and stopped a lot of warfare happening.
02:56:05.000 Yeah.
02:56:06.000 So I agree with you both in terms of if Trump was in charge, this wouldn't happen.
02:56:10.000 And he showed in this...
02:56:11.000 With Russia, Israel, or all of it?
02:56:13.000 So both, both.
02:56:14.000 So like Russia, Ukraine...
02:56:16.000 One thing I would give credit in this interview is that you basically had a scenario where he clearly laid out the real reason for why the Ukraine-Russia war happened, which is not something any of the NATO countries really say.
02:56:28.000 He said that Putin only had a couple of demands, which was NATO expansion that happened.
02:56:33.000 Western media never talks about that.
02:56:35.000 Exactly.
02:56:35.000 They never talk about NATO expansion.
02:56:37.000 On purpose.
02:56:37.000 Ever.
02:56:38.000 Exactly.
02:56:39.000 Most Americans, to be honest with y'all, probably didn't hear about NATO expansion until Tucker finally interviewed Putin.
02:56:44.000 True.
02:56:45.000 And then if you mention it, you know what they call you?
02:56:46.000 They call you a Putin puppet or a Russia shill.
02:56:49.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:56:50.000 But sorry, continue on soon.
02:56:51.000 And the second thing was that basically the US, through NATO partners, was supplying weapons to Ukraine.
02:56:59.000 Now just think about it logically, like no country is going to allow their sovereignty to be impacted in that way.
02:57:05.000 It's like, for example, a foreign nation sending a huge amount of weapons to Mexico.
02:57:10.000 Russia then basically expanding and taking control of Mexico.
02:57:14.000 America would never, ever allow that.
02:57:17.000 So what I liked about that...
02:57:19.000 Yeah, if Iran put a military base in fucking, you know, Mexico City, we'd be in there tomorrow.
02:57:24.000 Exactly.
02:57:25.000 And I don't think Americans understand.
02:57:27.000 They're like, well, our national security matters only.
02:57:29.000 Our national security matters only.
02:57:30.000 Well, other countries are going to have their national security interests.
02:57:33.000 And Ukraine being a proxy for the United States and having biological weapons there.
02:57:38.000 Having a president in place that is pro-United States, pro-NATO, etc.
02:57:44.000 A guy that doesn't respect Russia, right?
02:57:47.000 They're looking at this like this is an adversarial situation.
02:57:49.000 We need to come in and deal with this before it becomes a problem in our footstep.
02:57:53.000 Especially when it was an unwritten agreement.
02:57:55.000 It was like an unwritten agreement that there would never be this expansion, that Ukraine would never join NATO. So, I mean, Putin was basically forced into it because if he didn't do anything, you would have had a scenario where he wouldn't have been respected and he would have been the kicking boy of the entire situation.
02:58:10.000 And they would have took control of Ukraine and then they would have expanded Russia.
02:58:13.000 And like three or four different presidents have lied to him.
02:58:15.000 Clinton, Obama, Bush...
02:58:21.000 And obviously Trump came in, but like, and I think Trump stopped the NATO bullshit because he came in and said, yo, yo, yo, we're not going to keep paying for this.
02:58:28.000 Like, this is ridiculous.
02:58:29.000 And I think that stopped the situation.
02:58:31.000 They not only lied to him, what's worse is, they didn't even hide the fact that they lied to him.
02:58:35.000 So when they broke the Minsk agreement...
02:58:36.000 They literally came out, the President of France at that time came out and literally said, yeah, we did not.
02:58:42.000 The Minsk Agreement was only there to make Russia not do anything for a short period of time.
02:58:48.000 Our plan was always to break it.
02:58:50.000 This came out, and I believe the German, the person in charge of Germany...
02:58:53.000 Some idiot tried to, when I was in a Twitter space, well, America was leaving the Minsk Agreement.
02:58:58.000 That's irrelevant, dummy.
02:58:59.000 Like, it was a NATO agreement.
02:59:02.000 And the countries that were involved were part of NATO. It's all one.
02:59:05.000 Putin doesn't give a fuck about just the United States by itself.
02:59:08.000 Obviously, they're the leader of NATO. But all the NATO powers are a threat to him.
02:59:12.000 Like...
02:59:13.000 So I agree with you, and I agree with Trump.
02:59:15.000 So look, I've hammered Trump a lot on this space, and I'll probably continue to do so, as well as Musk.
02:59:21.000 But on this, I completely agree.
02:59:22.000 So that definitely wouldn't have happened under Trump.
02:59:25.000 The second thing is, in terms of Israel-Palestine, so would have Hamas...
02:59:29.000 I think Hamas still would have attacked, but maybe...
02:59:32.000 Because the whole point is, would have Hamas attacked, right?
02:59:34.000 I think that they would have attacked, and the reason is because Hamas had to attack.
02:59:39.000 Because if they didn't, the other option is that you accept complete annihilation.
02:59:45.000 You accept complete ethnic cleansing because Trump wasn't going to get a two-state solution.
02:59:50.000 That was quite clear.
02:59:51.000 He even said himself that when he spoke to the Palestinian Authority, they were very open to it.
02:59:55.000 When he spoke to Netanyahu, Netanyahu was literally just playing him along.
02:59:59.000 So it was quite clear that Trump even could not get the two-state solution because of Netanyahu.
03:00:04.000 So if that's the case...
03:00:06.000 And then you're seeing basically normalization throughout the entire region.
03:00:09.000 And then you're going to see that basically the ethnic cleansing because these settlements are increasing.
03:00:13.000 Trump gives golden heights.
03:00:15.000 Trump moves the embassy.
03:00:16.000 So all of these things, I think October 7th probably still would have happened.
03:00:22.000 And if Trump can't do it, you think Biden and Kamala can do it?
03:00:25.000 Yo, I just thought about this, right, bro?
03:00:27.000 Imagine Kamala.
03:00:27.000 Can she even name two countries?
03:00:31.000 I'm just like, yo, you're gonna vote for just three or four, and it's like, bro, she's gonna lead our country.
03:00:37.000 Tell!
03:00:38.000 Like, come on, man.
03:00:38.000 Probably not, bro.
03:00:39.000 That's well, man.
03:00:40.000 But you know what gets me, though?
03:00:41.000 What?
03:00:42.000 The population itself is still dumbed down.
03:00:45.000 They heard about Taylor Swift and what she's doing.
03:00:47.000 Other than the war coming.
03:00:49.000 She's gonna endorse Kamala too.
03:00:50.000 Get ready.
03:00:50.000 Probably in a month or two.
03:00:52.000 What's gonna suck is all those girls that are like, oh my God, Taylor Swift said this, I'm gonna go do it too.
03:00:57.000 And it's funny, somebody interviewed some girls.
03:00:59.000 You already got girls doing TikTok dances.
03:01:01.000 I forgot his name.
03:01:02.000 He went around interviewing girls about who they're voting for.
03:01:05.000 You know what they all said in unison?
03:01:07.000 I don't want a man to leave me.
03:01:08.000 I want to be independent.
03:01:09.000 And Kamala's going to give me that freedom.
03:01:11.000 I said, yo, this is crazy.
03:01:12.000 But then again, they're using the trope of, okay, you know what?
03:01:15.000 Here's the freedom you want as a woman.
03:01:16.000 Don't vote for Trump.
03:01:17.000 Vote for Kamala.
03:01:18.000 This is scary, bro.
03:01:20.000 This is scary, bro.
03:01:21.000 This is really scary because that is going to sway a lot of things to her direction.
03:01:23.000 No, but then what that shows is this, and it's something Myra mentioned before the interview, and obviously a number of other people have mentioned, that the Trump campaign has been making horrible decision after horrible decision.
03:01:40.000 We've just given an example.
03:01:42.000 I just gave an example just before about why basically ignoring the vote, the anti-war vote, which is actually something Trump could actually win.
03:01:50.000 Because as you guys have just explained, we've all just explained why Trump is the guy where there wouldn't be war.
03:01:56.000 You have a huge element of the left who are not just war, but they're just anti-war.
03:02:01.000 You could have won them.
03:02:02.000 I see what you mean.
03:02:03.000 He needs to pull the moderates in.
03:02:06.000 By being anti-war?
03:02:07.000 Yeah.
03:02:07.000 And even people in the left.
03:02:10.000 The left, classically, have always been anti-war.
03:02:14.000 I consider myself left, generally speaking, on a lot of issues.
03:02:17.000 That is because the left, classically, not this woke stuff, not this feminism stuff, it was always anti-war.
03:02:24.000 When it comes to foreign policy.
03:02:25.000 When it comes to foreign policy, yeah.
03:02:26.000 So in that regard, you've got all this vote, which Americans are telling me, when I went out throughout the US speaking to these liberals, That we're not going to vote for Biden.
03:02:36.000 We're not going to vote for him because of what he's done to Gaza.
03:02:38.000 So if you've got this vote, who is telling him to make these statements where he wasn't even pushed about Israel?
03:02:45.000 He was proactively stating it.
03:02:47.000 And so therefore, he's intentionally disregarding that vote, which would have guaranteed him, in my view, the election.
03:02:54.000 So that tells me that...
03:02:56.000 Who's his biggest donator?
03:02:58.000 A woman named Miriam Adelson.
03:03:00.000 Exactly.
03:03:01.000 Well, she's one of them.
03:03:01.000 And then you've got many people.
03:03:03.000 She is, as well as you've got many people in Silicon Valley who've moved across to him.
03:03:07.000 Peter Thiel, all these guys.
03:03:09.000 Peter Thiel, Bill Ackman.
03:03:10.000 All of them have moved across to him.
03:03:12.000 So now the question becomes, you're talking about the donors though.
03:03:15.000 So the real question is this.
03:03:18.000 That's what makes me think that either the election is either going to be scammed and he's going to be given it.
03:03:23.000 Or the other hand is that these people are intentionally sabotaging him because this huge vote that is available to him, he's disregarding it.
03:03:32.000 That's one example.
03:03:33.000 Those are the examples of what you just said now, where they've been, if you look at his vote, he's not, it looks very static.
03:03:39.000 They're not basically campaigning in a great way.
03:03:40.000 You explained them TikTok dances that people are doing for Kamala.
03:03:43.000 Her social media game is really good.
03:03:45.000 So again, you're seeing another example of...
03:03:47.000 And Trump didn't even come on Twitter till today.
03:03:49.000 This is another example of how the social media game has been really bad.
03:03:54.000 If you look at even the attacks...
03:03:55.000 Look, this used to work in the past, but people think it's childish now.
03:03:58.000 You know when you're talking...
03:04:00.000 Kamala, we know she pretended.
03:04:01.000 She was like, oh, I'm black.
03:04:02.000 No, she said she was Indian, then she said she was black.
03:04:04.000 That obviously shows a certain level of strange behavior.
03:04:08.000 But to keep on going on about it, or keep on going on about couches and these type of things, what people do is think, oh, he's a child.
03:04:16.000 And then they don't want to vote for him as well.
03:04:18.000 So all of these strategies are horrible.
03:04:20.000 And what it's showing is that this entire Trump team is either having terrible strategies or they're sabotaging him.
03:04:28.000 I promise you, bro, whoever's advising him is doing a terrible job.
03:04:32.000 Because, like you just said before, that Democrat people that will actually vote for him for anti-war is somebody who's losing.
03:04:38.000 But I think a bigger thing to note is that, like, Trump right now, is he the same Trump from back in the day?
03:04:43.000 Because the Trump back in the day was powerful, loud, and he was, like, actually the voice of the people.
03:04:49.000 I feel like he's being in control now.
03:04:51.000 Yeah.
03:04:51.000 Low-key.
03:04:52.000 Either by our friends overseas or, you know, people here.
03:04:56.000 But what can we do now at this point?
03:04:58.000 Either way, he's a better option than Kamala Harris.
03:05:01.000 Well, this is the problem.
03:05:02.000 When he appointed J.D. Vance, that was a prime example of, again, a terrible decision.
03:05:06.000 And as you said, possibly being controlled.
03:05:08.000 J.D. Vance has connections to Silicon Valley.
03:05:11.000 He has connections to possibly the CIA. He has definitely connections to Peter Thiel.
03:05:16.000 And so he's basically his puppet, right?
03:05:18.000 So...
03:05:19.000 When he's basically putting him into power, either again, it's a terrible decision, or there's a chance that he's sold out.
03:05:26.000 This is a guy who literally was like, I'm a never-Trumper.
03:05:29.000 He said Trump basically partook in sexual abuse.
03:05:33.000 He also said that Trump is a Nazi.
03:05:36.000 So he made all of these statements about Trump, and then he got put in because of Peter Thiel.
03:05:41.000 So again, it shows, as you said, either he's sold out, or his team are making horrible, horrible decisions.
03:05:48.000 I will say this.
03:05:49.000 So, I'll give credit to JD Vance on this.
03:05:51.000 He went and did a round of interviews on adversarial networks.
03:05:55.000 Okay, I'm sending you a link right now, Bills.
03:05:58.000 And I think he perfectly summed up Kamala Harris.
03:06:01.000 And this is also going to lead me to my next point.
03:06:04.000 It's the last link I sent you, not the Newsweek one, Bills.
03:06:06.000 It's the one on Twitter.
03:06:08.000 We'll play this clip here real fast.
03:06:11.000 What was that?
03:06:13.000 Yeah, it's audio.
03:06:14.000 It's a tweet of mine.
03:06:16.000 I played a video.
03:06:18.000 I think it was either MSNBC or ABC. No, this is CNN. So he went on all the liberal ones.
03:06:27.000 CNN, ABC, MSNBC, etc.
03:06:30.000 So, let's roll this clip.
03:06:35.000 He's asked about Kamala Harris.
03:06:40.000 Oh, no volume.
03:06:41.000 Yeah, yeah.
03:06:42.000 You might have to bring the speed down a little bit.
03:06:44.000 See, like, the headline is basically the point I'm making.
03:06:50.000 Tara Black!
03:06:52.000 Yo!
03:06:53.000 I can't hear it from Twitter.
03:07:05.000 Oh, it tabs muted?
03:07:06.000 Okay.
03:07:07.000 There we go.
03:07:10.000 I believe that Kamala Harris is whatever she says she is, but I believe, importantly, that President Trump is right that she's a chameleon.
03:07:18.000 She pretends to be one thing in front of one audience, she pretends to be something different in front of another audience.
03:07:23.000 Look, Dana, she's not running a political campaign.
03:07:26.000 She's running a movie.
03:07:28.000 She only speaks to voters behind a teleprompter.
03:07:31.000 Everything is scripted.
03:07:32.000 She doesn't have her policy positions out there.
03:07:34.000 She hasn't answered why she wanted to ban fracking, but now she doesn't.
03:07:37.000 She wanted to fund police, but now she doesn't.
03:07:39.000 She wanted to open the border, but now she doesn't.
03:07:41.000 She should have to answer for why she presents a different set of policies to one audience and a different set of policies to another audience.
03:07:49.000 And I think that's what President Trump is getting at.
03:07:51.000 This is a fundamentally fake person.
03:07:52.000 She's different depending on who she's in front of.
03:07:55.000 I believe that Kamala Harris...
03:07:56.000 Sir, pause.
03:07:57.000 This is absolutely fucking true.
03:07:59.000 Facts.
03:08:00.000 Whether it's her walking out of the record store, holding the record while knowing that the black man is going to be there, or her, you know...
03:08:08.000 Talking to a bunch of the LGBT community saying, I'm going to give you XYZ. And then she goes on in a rally with this dude, Waltz, and says, oh yeah, I had this bill on immigration and all this other crap.
03:08:19.000 She says what makes sense, depending on who's looking at her at the time.
03:08:24.000 Doing these interviews saying that, oh yeah, I was listening to Tupac and Snoop Dogg in the 80s.
03:08:29.000 Bro, Snoop Dogg didn't even come out with his first album until like 94.
03:08:32.000 What are you talking about?
03:08:33.000 So you know what's funny about what she's doing right now?
03:08:36.000 It's a form of networking.
03:08:37.000 Now, it sounds crazy, but it's kind of smart what she's doing, because she's acquiesced into- Explain, you're meant to be the best networker from what I know.
03:08:43.000 So she's acquiesced into whoever she's in front of for their votes, of course.
03:08:47.000 Now, granted, her audience of the black community is going to be swayed by rappers, people in that industry, and people that have a likeness to that culture.
03:08:56.000 So food, music, that's going to be more for the black vote.
03:09:01.000 And my thing is, for her doing this, Honestly, people are dumb.
03:09:05.000 So they're going to fall for it.
03:09:06.000 And as a result of falling for it, she wins that vote.
03:09:09.000 Now granted though, people of a higher IQ can see what she's doing bar for bar.
03:09:13.000 The problem is that like, people that are not of that IQ are going to be like, yo, this is amazing.
03:09:16.000 She's for us.
03:09:17.000 She's with us.
03:09:18.000 She's bringing our favorite people on stage to talk as well.
03:09:21.000 And that's going to bring her that vote.
03:09:22.000 But I think, honestly speaking, for who she is, look, this is me being very real here.
03:09:27.000 Am I some kind of crazy?
03:09:28.000 But like, this is what whores do, bro.
03:09:30.000 Whores pretend to be...
03:09:31.000 I like you, and they'll play the game to get what they want.
03:09:34.000 And once they get what they want, they'll just drop it.
03:09:36.000 And my thing is like, I'm going to call her an actual whore.
03:09:40.000 I don't know, man.
03:09:41.000 I'm just saying, that's what whores do.
03:09:42.000 So she fits the narrative very well for...
03:09:44.000 And slimy politicians.
03:09:46.000 And I will say this, it does bring the vote to her, and I can't even argue that, because she's playing her cards correctly.
03:09:53.000 That's what I'm saying.
03:09:53.000 Well, it's not halls, it's just all women.
03:09:58.000 So, I went on a rant about this the other day, right?
03:10:01.000 Because this shit was pissing me off.
03:10:02.000 And I go, why are Democrats so fucking retarded?
03:10:06.000 Even the most liberal of leftists said Biden is one of the worst presidents of our lifetime.
03:10:11.000 Which, by the way, before he dropped out the race, that's what everybody was saying.
03:10:15.000 Yo, you need to drop out, we're pulling donors, etc.
03:10:18.000 They were freaking out before the DNC. Right?
03:10:21.000 So why the fuck, right, are these smooth-brained Democrat retards getting behind the Vice President, that means the number two in charge of the country, idiots, keep up, of the very administration they were all threatening to abandon a month ago?
03:10:34.000 Yes.
03:10:35.000 Do these idiots not realize Kamala Harris is simply another fucking Joe Biden with an annoying cackle and longer hair?
03:10:41.000 She's in office right fucking now and the country's gone to shit.
03:10:45.000 We've already seen her track record and we don't even know the four years of it, right?
03:10:48.000 And I go Trump 2024.
03:10:50.000 And I don't think Americans understand this.
03:10:52.000 The idiot Krasenstein brothers, right?
03:10:55.000 They're all over Twitter.
03:10:56.000 They're always talking shit about Trump all day, which is fine.
03:10:59.000 You can have your criticisms of Trump.
03:11:01.000 I have some criticisms of Trump.
03:11:02.000 The two things I dislike about him the most are his massive support for Israel and the vaccine.
03:11:10.000 Those are the two things I strongly disagree with him about.
03:11:12.000 Huge things, though.
03:11:13.000 Yeah.
03:11:13.000 The Vax, we all know it was on some BS in that Operation Warp Speed, which I think was a monumental failure.
03:11:18.000 And then obviously getting behind Netanyahu, who doesn't want a two-state solution.
03:11:23.000 Right?
03:11:24.000 Those are my things.
03:11:25.000 But the Krasenstein brothers, these two fucking idiots, right?
03:11:29.000 Literally admitted.
03:11:30.000 I'll find it on Twitter.
03:11:33.000 Kamala hasn't come out with a full-on policy yet of what she plans to do.
03:11:37.000 No one knows what she's really gonna do.
03:11:39.000 They even admit it.
03:11:39.000 Yeah, we don't know yet.
03:11:40.000 She's gonna come out with her full policy thing on Monday.
03:11:43.000 And I'm like, why have you guys been posting about her for months?
03:11:47.000 What the fuck?
03:11:48.000 You don't even know what she stands for.
03:11:49.000 But it goes back to what you were saying before.
03:11:51.000 People don't even know what they're supporting.
03:11:53.000 They don't even know.
03:11:54.000 They just want to vote against Trump so bad, and they dislike him, that they're just like, I'm just not going to vote for Trump.
03:12:00.000 I'm going to go ahead and vote for Kamala, or I'm going to go vote for RFK, or whatever.
03:12:04.000 People dislike Trump so much that they will vote for somebody else, even when they don't know their policies.
03:12:08.000 We've seen what happens to people with smirk campaigns.
03:12:12.000 They did it to Trump.
03:12:14.000 Trump had a good standing, of course, back in the day.
03:12:17.000 Maybe not the best standing, because it's from his comments, but the whole take on him being charged and all this stuff is going against the narrative.
03:12:24.000 Now, granted, people that don't know are not of high IQ will say, oh, he's a bad person, don't vote for him.
03:12:30.000 But like you just said, her policies, we don't even know.
03:12:33.000 And here's the other thing, too.
03:12:34.000 Look, she can say whatever she wants to say.
03:12:37.000 Oh, I'm going to do X, Y, Z. She's in office right now.
03:12:40.000 Like, I don't get, like, how people don't understand this.
03:12:43.000 She's the vice president of the United States, you fucking idiots!
03:12:47.000 She is the second in command, okay?
03:12:50.000 Right now, as we speak, she is the second in fucking command.
03:12:54.000 Honestly, she's number one, because Biden is out of commission.
03:12:58.000 She's effectively running the country right now!
03:13:00.000 And people don't understand this.
03:13:02.000 I don't think people understand how American politics work.
03:13:06.000 We've got three branches, executive and judicial, etc.
03:13:09.000 I genuinely believe that most Americans, if you ask them...
03:13:13.000 Who's second in command?
03:13:15.000 And I ask them, do you know who the Vice President of the United States is?
03:13:17.000 They wouldn't even know it's her!
03:13:18.000 But we know what she's going to do, though.
03:13:20.000 Whatever they tell her to do.
03:13:21.000 But look, like I said, I've got a slightly different perspective on this.
03:13:25.000 People are so stupid.
03:13:26.000 I have got a slightly different perspective on this.
03:13:28.000 Because look, when it comes to policies, you generally don't know...
03:13:34.000 Politicians' policies.
03:13:34.000 They never be specific about it.
03:13:36.000 Let me give you an example with Trump.
03:13:37.000 I'll give you a few.
03:13:38.000 By the way, I know Kamala's worse.
03:13:40.000 But what's his position on abortion?
03:13:42.000 He's not said it.
03:13:43.000 Delegated to the states.
03:13:44.000 Yeah, he's not got a position.
03:13:47.000 He wants to delegate to the states.
03:13:48.000 But if you ask him his own position, he stated like, oh, he should be 19.
03:13:51.000 He called Ron DeSantis an extremist.
03:13:53.000 For holding six weeks as an example, right?
03:13:56.000 Which is a conservative position.
03:13:58.000 In addition to that, if you look at his position on Israel, he keeps saying we're going to end it.
03:14:02.000 He doesn't actually specifically say it.
03:14:03.000 No one knows what his position is.
03:14:05.000 Actually, I think he should have been a bit more vague actually if he was smart, but he's not.
03:14:08.000 I have an estimation of what I think he's going to do.
03:14:10.000 But I'll finish what you're going to say and I'll go after.
03:14:13.000 And so when you look at a number of his policies, I don't think they're as clear as well.
03:14:18.000 The second point is this, in terms of Kamala, remember, this is what the Trump campaign has been telling us, that the vice president in reality does not have no power, right?
03:14:27.000 For example, Pence didn't really have real power.
03:14:29.000 And now J.D. Vance, he's not going to have real power.
03:14:32.000 The only time he's going to have real power is if you kill Trump, right?
03:14:35.000 So if that's the case, then in reality that works for Kamala Harris as well, that she is the vice president.
03:14:40.000 So in reality, she doesn't have real power.
03:14:42.000 The person who has real power in the current presidency in reality is Blinken.
03:14:47.000 Or it is...
03:14:49.000 Well, technically it's the third person.
03:14:50.000 Speaker of the House is actually third in command.
03:14:52.000 Yeah.
03:14:52.000 Which is crazy.
03:14:54.000 Johnson.
03:14:56.000 So that's in command in terms of like if the president gets murdered.
03:14:58.000 Yeah, that's the order of secession.
03:15:00.000 Yeah, and if Vance gets murdered then...
03:15:02.000 But in terms of actual concrete power, like right now, it's probably Blinken, right?
03:15:08.000 For foreign policy, for sure.
03:15:09.000 Yeah, for foreign policy.
03:15:09.000 For sure.
03:15:10.000 There's a video.
03:15:11.000 Secretary, take over real quick.
03:15:12.000 The last one.
03:15:12.000 Sorry, go ahead.
03:15:13.000 Yeah, yeah.
03:15:13.000 So...
03:15:14.000 I mean, when it comes to that, I don't think you can.
03:15:17.000 Now, in terms of...
03:15:18.000 Sorry, Kamala.
03:15:21.000 Kamala.
03:15:22.000 Yeah, Kamala.
03:15:23.000 Kamala.
03:15:23.000 Yeah.
03:15:23.000 So, in terms of her, yeah, she is a chameleon.
03:15:26.000 But I think that's...
03:15:27.000 In reality, if I was giving Trump advice, I would have said to him as well, like, be a bit more vague on certain issues.
03:15:33.000 I would have told him to be a bit more vague on the Israel issue.
03:15:35.000 And I would have told him that.
03:15:36.000 Say, look...
03:15:37.000 Look at my talk record.
03:15:38.000 I was anti-war.
03:15:39.000 And with Israel, I'm going to make sure it ends.
03:15:41.000 And that way you just stay very...
03:15:43.000 He has said that before.
03:15:43.000 He said, I'm going to give them what they need and we're going to end it.
03:15:47.000 But he kept saying, finish the job.
03:15:49.000 But that's worse because that's basically saying, finish the genocide.
03:15:52.000 So that's why language is important.
03:15:55.000 And so I think that you have...
03:15:56.000 Part of being a politician is you need to be a bit more smarter.
03:15:59.000 You need to be a bit more...
03:16:00.000 Of course.
03:16:00.000 I think in that regard, Kamala is getting away with it.
03:16:04.000 And let's be clear.
03:16:05.000 People are dumb.
03:16:06.000 So you don't need to give them policy.
03:16:07.000 You don't have to.
03:16:08.000 If I was advising Kamala, I'd be telling her to do what she's doing right now.
03:16:11.000 Real quick.
03:16:12.000 This is why...
03:16:12.000 Because the American public clearly doesn't care.
03:16:14.000 You're right.
03:16:15.000 They don't care.
03:16:16.000 People are dumb.
03:16:17.000 People are dumb.
03:16:17.000 This is why...
03:16:19.000 Question for you guys on the panel.
03:16:21.000 Has feminism taken over America?
03:16:24.000 Yes or no?
03:16:26.000 100%.
03:16:26.000 Both the left and the right.
03:16:29.000 And I'll take it a step further.
03:16:30.000 It's allowed a lot of the other isms to rear their ugly heads.
03:16:34.000 Now imagine they can, for once in their lifetime, choose a woman that is black, empowers them, and gives them the freedom to be whoever they want to fucking be.
03:16:47.000 You could be gay, you could be straight, you could be an item, you could be it.
03:16:51.000 Now, imagine a president as a woman for the first time ever.
03:16:54.000 It never happened in history, right?
03:16:56.000 Here, Gerald Ford explains to you how it can happen.
03:16:58.000 We listened before, but just to rehash what's happening now in real time.
03:17:02.000 Go ahead, Bill, if you don't mind.
03:17:03.000 It's crazy, by the way.
03:17:05.000 You seen this?
03:17:08.000 This back in the day, him saying when someone actually became a president as a woman.
03:17:13.000 The only way it would ever happen.
03:17:15.000 Yeah, this is one of the things I always praised America about.
03:17:17.000 I was like, Americans, however bad you say about Americans, however much you want to insult them, one thing they've not done is basically vote a woman in as president.
03:17:26.000 Well, hold on.
03:17:27.000 Here we go.
03:17:28.000 Mr.
03:17:29.000 Ford, what advice would you give a young lady wanting to become President of the United States?
03:17:35.000 Well, I hope we do have a young lady at some point become President of the United States.
03:17:46.000 I can tell you how I think it will happen because it won't happen In the normal course of events, either the Republican or Democrat political party will nominate a man for president and a woman for vice president.
03:18:09.000 And the woman and man will win.
03:18:12.000 So you'll end up with a A president, a male, and a vice president, a female.
03:18:19.000 And in that term of office of the president, the president will die.
03:18:26.000 And the woman will become president under the law or constitution.
03:18:31.000 But that's the way it's going to happen.
03:18:34.000 So, imagine, right?
03:18:36.000 Is Biden live right now?
03:18:38.000 He is, but not really.
03:18:40.000 You see where I'm going with this?
03:18:41.000 So my thing is like, bro, right now, I wish Trump would have a landslide and win.
03:18:48.000 But bro, the current society population, bro, are they going to be smart enough to figure out what's going on?
03:18:52.000 No!
03:18:53.000 No, but his argument is the same as mine.
03:18:54.000 He's saying the only time in America...
03:18:57.000 Well, she wasn't even elected.
03:18:58.000 The DNC is next week, I think.
03:19:00.000 They're going to probably nominate her.
03:19:01.000 But not a single person voted for her.
03:19:04.000 No, but this is the problem with the entire DNC though.
03:19:07.000 If you look at the entire DNC and you compare it to RNC, like no one ever talks about this.
03:19:12.000 But the RNC is extremely democratic.
03:19:14.000 Like the people, the Republicans choose who's going to be their nominee.
03:19:19.000 They win based on merit.
03:19:21.000 And that's how you had someone like Donald Trump Become the nominee in 2016.
03:19:26.000 You could never have a Donald Trump in the DNC. Because the DNC, the way the system works is, it's actually not the people who vote.
03:19:34.000 Because they have something called the superdelegates.
03:19:37.000 And the superdelegates, in reality, just decide who it's gonna be.
03:19:40.000 So irrespective of the entire Democrat voters wanted Bernie Sanders, an example.
03:19:45.000 They wanted Bernie Sanders, but what you knew, that as soon as the superdelegates come in, What's her name?
03:19:51.000 Hillary's going to win.
03:19:52.000 Even though we know they screwed him over anywhere before that.
03:19:54.000 But the entire Democratic DNC system is not Democratic.
03:19:59.000 If Bernie was a Republican, he probably would have gotten nominated because he did have a lot of pushback before.
03:20:04.000 Yes.
03:20:05.000 100%.
03:20:06.000 So someone like Bernie is Donald Trump.
03:20:08.000 And Donald Trump got chosen and voted in.
03:20:10.000 So yeah, 100%.
03:20:11.000 Good point.
03:20:12.000 That's actually a very good point.
03:20:13.000 DNC is the most, the least Democratic.
03:20:15.000 DNC is a good old boys club.
03:20:16.000 Even though they're not called the GOP. Yeah, yeah.
03:20:19.000 Because that's what it stands for, the good old party or whatever.
03:20:22.000 So the Democrats are actually the ones that it's more clicky with that, with the good old boys.
03:20:25.000 Not just more, it is completely.
03:20:28.000 So like for example now, you could have someone from the Democrat party who has like kind of unique positions and unique ideas.
03:20:33.000 Because you're right, Trump was an outsider when he came in in 2016.
03:20:36.000 And here's the thing, that's why people loved him.
03:20:38.000 He was not a politician.
03:20:40.000 He was anti-establishment, all this other shit.
03:20:42.000 He was not a politician.
03:20:44.000 That's why so many people I mean, we might as well pull up my article real fast.
03:20:48.000 But this segues perfectly into what I was going to say right here on Newsweek.
03:20:54.000 This came out a couple days ago, which, you know, and then there's been a bunch of Mimic news articles on it.
03:20:58.000 But this is the original one right here.
03:21:02.000 It was the one I sent you before the...
03:21:04.000 Yeah, yeah.
03:21:05.000 So this is huge, right, guys?
03:21:06.000 And this covers actually perfectly into what's going on right now.
03:21:10.000 America's far-right turns on Donald Trump campaign, right?
03:21:12.000 This came out a couple of days ago.
03:21:14.000 Can we make this a bit bigger?
03:21:17.000 Right-wing political pundits Nick Fuentes and Laura Loomer have launched attacks on former President Donald Trump's current campaign strategy.
03:21:25.000 Which isn't true.
03:21:25.000 Laura Lumer did an attack his campaign.
03:21:28.000 Yeah, as much as I dislike her, that'd be impossible.
03:21:31.000 Yeah, that's not true.
03:21:32.000 She just said that, hey, we need to rethink the strategy, is what she said.
03:21:37.000 Usually unwavering supporters of Trump, they have now declared open opposition with Fuentes announcing a new griper war against the campaign.
03:21:43.000 The unrest within the Republican Party comes after Democratic candidate Kamala Harris has seen a surge in polling in several battleground states since taking over Joe Biden.
03:21:50.000 Which, by the way, I want to let you guys know, she had a surge, even though no one knows what her policies are, and the country is currently failing, and she's Vice President of the United States.
03:21:57.000 That's just to let you guys know how stupid people are in the United States.
03:22:00.000 Well, hold on.
03:22:00.000 Just add to your point real quick.
03:22:02.000 She's actually smart.
03:22:03.000 You know why?
03:22:04.000 People don't care anymore.
03:22:05.000 They want to feel good, and she makes them feel good because she accepts them for who they are.
03:22:09.000 I've seen, the guy that did the interviews, he asked girls, why would you choose Kamala?
03:22:13.000 Oh, I feel better when she talks about independence and me being free.
03:22:16.000 And it's like, she's right.
03:22:18.000 She can say blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but it sounds good to them.
03:22:20.000 That's all they care about.
03:22:21.000 So policies are going to...
03:22:23.000 She goes a bunch of word salad.
03:22:24.000 But it works because she's speaking her jargon.
03:22:27.000 The black woman jargon.
03:22:28.000 She's speaking bimbo-knees.
03:22:30.000 100%.
03:22:30.000 Bimbo-knees.
03:22:32.000 Good point.
03:22:33.000 The unrest within the Republican Party comes after Democratic...
03:22:36.000 Oh, sorry.
03:22:37.000 In the last weeks, she has massively out-fundraised Trump's campaign and has pulled even with Trump in the betting markets where he was the favorite since March.
03:22:47.000 Fuentes, as a controversial political pundit known for his inflammatory rhetoric, took to social media on Thursday night to express frustrations.
03:22:53.000 There I say I'm declaring a new gripper war against the Trump campaign, he said in a video posted on X. The so-called gripper war Fuentes refers to is a term co-created in 2019 to rally supporters of Trump and other right-wing individuals toward adopting white nationalist ideologies.
03:23:09.000 His followers refer to themselves as grippers.
03:23:12.000 And the grippers, as you guys know, they use the Cumber the Frog emojis on Twitter.
03:23:17.000 You have alien us.
03:23:18.000 You have ignored us.
03:23:19.000 You don't listen to our concerns.
03:23:20.000 We have been left behind.
03:23:21.000 Now, this isn't just Nick.
03:23:24.000 Candace Owens talked about this on Twitter, saying that there needs to be more energy in the Trump campaign.
03:23:29.000 Obviously, Laura Loomer said this.
03:23:30.000 Nick said this.
03:23:31.000 And if I'm going to go ahead and summarize a lot of the criticisms, it's this.
03:23:38.000 The Trump we have now is not the Trump we put in office in 2016.
03:23:42.000 He was anti-establishment.
03:23:43.000 He was not a politician.
03:23:45.000 He would say, we're going to fucking build a wall.
03:23:48.000 Mexico's going to pay for it, etc.
03:23:50.000 Right?
03:23:50.000 Not politically correct.
03:23:52.000 Didn't give a fuck.
03:23:53.000 Right?
03:23:54.000 And did what he did.
03:23:55.000 Also, he didn't need donors.
03:23:57.000 If you guys remember, like 2015, 2016, he was like, oh, I don't need their money.
03:24:01.000 I got my own money.
03:24:02.000 And I have quite a bit of money.
03:24:04.000 Right?
03:24:04.000 So, let's rely on donors.
03:24:07.000 Anti-establishment, etc.
03:24:09.000 Now, a big reason why a lot of people have complaints is they feel as though he's alienated the very people that put him in office back in 2016.
03:24:18.000 He's disavowed Project 2025, which I think Project 2025 is pretty fucking based, to be honest with y'all.
03:24:24.000 I like it.
03:24:25.000 But he's disavowed it.
03:24:26.000 He feels that it's too right-wing, right?
03:24:29.000 Called it extreme right-wing.
03:24:30.000 Yeah, they called it extreme right-wing.
03:24:32.000 Radical.
03:24:32.000 Radical right-wing.
03:24:34.000 He's disavowed it.
03:24:34.000 Can we pull up Project 2025 real quick?
03:24:38.000 He's, uh, yeah.
03:24:39.000 He disavowed Project 2025.
03:24:41.000 He brought J.D. Vance in, who was not a supporter of his in 2016 when he originally ran, right?
03:24:48.000 He brought in, um, Chris, this, um, his campaign manager now, who was not a fan of his back in 2016.
03:24:55.000 Um, obviously a lot of the people that support the hardcore Trump supporters remember January 6th, 2020, uh, 2020, uh, When Mike Pence, or 2021, when Mike Pence didn't support him with the vote.
03:25:07.000 Remember, guys?
03:25:08.000 He didn't want to go ahead and support Trump with the vote, etc.
03:25:12.000 He betrayed him.
03:25:12.000 He backstabbed him.
03:25:13.000 He testified against him with the FBI, etc.
03:25:15.000 He was a critical component into the D.C. federal criminal case against Trump.
03:25:20.000 So he was backstabbed.
03:25:22.000 So they didn't like Vance coming in, who talked shit about him in 2016.
03:25:25.000 They're like, bro...
03:25:26.000 You've been betrayed before.
03:25:28.000 You're bringing in people that you beat back in 2016 that disavowed you back then.
03:25:31.000 Now you're bringing them into your campaign.
03:25:33.000 You are turning into the very politician that we didn't want you to be, right?
03:25:39.000 The very politicians that you campaigned against and beat in 2016.
03:25:42.000 You're now bringing them into your campaign.
03:25:44.000 Which I understand those grapes, right?
03:25:46.000 What else?
03:25:48.000 What else?
03:25:49.000 Oh, immigration.
03:25:51.000 He's taking the Charlie Kirk thing where he says, hey, people that graduate need to get a green card attached to their diploma.
03:25:57.000 He doesn't, right?
03:25:58.000 A lot of people that supported him are anti-immigration altogether.
03:26:02.000 And I'm trying to think, what are some of the other...
03:26:05.000 Those are the big ones I can think of.
03:26:06.000 Iran.
03:26:07.000 What was that?
03:26:08.000 Iran was the other one.
03:26:09.000 Oh, thank you.
03:26:10.000 Thank you.
03:26:11.000 Yes.
03:26:12.000 The war with Iran.
03:26:13.000 No war with Iran.
03:26:14.000 Right?
03:26:15.000 So, those are kind of the terms, especially for the group war.
03:26:17.000 I think that for Nick, that's like his biggest thing is like...
03:26:20.000 He said, I'm not voting for Trump unless he could commit to not going to war with Iran.
03:26:25.000 Which...
03:26:27.000 Honestly, I think it's a very fair thing.
03:26:30.000 Going to the world with Iran doesn't benefit anybody.
03:26:32.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.
03:26:33.000 So, let me get this straight.
03:26:34.000 I get people's gripes with Trump back then to now.
03:26:37.000 Understandable, he's changed quite a bit.
03:26:39.000 However, he's playing the game like he should play the game.
03:26:42.000 The problem back then, he wasn't playing the game.
03:26:45.000 He was just doing what he felt was right.
03:26:46.000 Now he's playing the game correctly.
03:26:48.000 You gotta move some things.
03:26:49.000 But you're gonna lose your loyal audience doing that.
03:26:52.000 You will, but dude, he's been through a lot.
03:26:54.000 He's been through a whole...
03:26:55.000 Dude, he's been through false accusations, friggin' charges, friggin' almost getting killed.
03:27:00.000 Which is why he's the donors.
03:27:01.000 Dude, he's not the same person.
03:27:02.000 He's been through so much.
03:27:03.000 Also, if you look at it from a strategic perspective, like, look, I like the Gripers, right?
03:27:06.000 I think they're good.
03:27:08.000 But if you think about it from Trump's perspective, he's saying, look, I'll throw them under the bus.
03:27:14.000 But I'll get all of these people on my side.
03:27:16.000 Silicon Valley, these, you know, the mainstream people, the people who maybe, maybe in his mind, he's thinking a bit more towards the left.
03:27:23.000 If you look at a lot of his positions now, again, they're a bit more open.
03:27:27.000 He's a lot more moderate.
03:27:27.000 Yeah, he's a lot more moderate.
03:27:28.000 Way more moderate.
03:27:29.000 So he's thinking, I'm going to get that base and like, forget these guys.
03:27:32.000 That's literally what he's doing.
03:27:33.000 And he's thinking strategically.
03:27:34.000 That's a big abyss.
03:27:35.000 The other thing, too, that I think is very important for people to understand, which I'm noticing is the strategy with this Republican push, the GOP push right now, is they're like, look, these MAGA supporters are diehard.
03:27:47.000 They're going to vote for me no matter what.
03:27:49.000 So what I need to do now is he's trying to convert the moderates.
03:27:52.000 He's trying to convert the people like Elon Musk.
03:27:54.000 He's trying to convert the people like the Ackmans, the Silicon Valley people, etc.
03:27:57.000 But in doing so, You're pissing off the people that supported you in 2016.
03:28:03.000 But only some of them.
03:28:04.000 So this is what he's thinking strategically.
03:28:05.000 He's thinking, as you said just before, 90-some percent of them, they're going to follow me even if I tell them to jump in the river or jump in the sea.
03:28:12.000 Yeah, he does have a huge following.
03:28:14.000 He has a huge passion, loyal following.
03:28:16.000 And so in his mind, he's thinking, I can screw over the Gripers and people like Nick Fuentes or people who have similar ideas because that's going to be less of the base And they'll never vote for my opposition.
03:28:29.000 And they wouldn't vote for my opposition.
03:28:30.000 So strategically, he's looking at it from a strategic perspective, is what you're saying, isn't it?
03:28:35.000 It doesn't make sense.
03:28:37.000 I'm going to go deeper because certain rooms when you go into, people are very open about what they say behind the scenes.
03:28:43.000 And I'm sure he's in these rooms right now behind the scenes with these people of higher power.
03:28:47.000 And they tell him certain things that he didn't know before.
03:28:49.000 And what they're telling him is, listen, these guys that are supporting the past, they're great.
03:28:54.000 But they can't move the needle like you need it moved.
03:28:57.000 So by default, like what you're saying to your point as well, he wants a bigger audience that has more impact and more power.
03:29:02.000 Because he's fighting against an establishment and as well them boys with all the attacks from his political and also personal life.
03:29:11.000 So I think for Trump, it's smart because he's going through a lot, bro.
03:29:14.000 Honestly.
03:29:15.000 So what were the demands as well?
03:29:17.000 I know those were the issues, but what were the actual demands?
03:29:20.000 No war with Iran.
03:29:21.000 I know that's like the biggest one.
03:29:22.000 So he said it today.
03:29:23.000 He said, I don't want to do anything bad to Iran.
03:29:27.000 So he's giving you that.
03:29:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:29:29.000 He did say that.
03:29:30.000 He actually did say that.
03:29:31.000 And interestingly enough, He kind of gave his game plan on how he kept Iran in check while he was in office.
03:29:39.000 I just told China not to do business with them.
03:29:41.000 That made them lose their money.
03:29:43.000 And obviously, when they don't have as much money running around like they do, they can't fund Hezbollah and Hamas and all these other proxy militaries that can go ahead.
03:29:52.000 And by default, Israel is safer.
03:29:55.000 That's his claim, yeah.
03:29:56.000 Yeah, that's his claim, right?
03:29:59.000 Which he was able to do it kind of by a go-around.
03:30:03.000 But yeah, so the biggest gripes are disavowing Project 2025, bringing JD Vance in, a war with Iran.
03:30:13.000 No, but those are the gripes, but what's the demands?
03:30:14.000 So those are the gripes, yeah, I get that.
03:30:16.000 Oh, the demands?
03:30:17.000 Yeah, yeah.
03:30:18.000 No war with Iran?
03:30:18.000 Yeah.
03:30:19.000 Fire, the campaign manager, Chris, goddammit, what's his name?
03:30:22.000 Litavizka, some shit like that, and this woman, Kellyanne something.
03:30:25.000 Chris, we just call him Chris.
03:30:26.000 Yeah.
03:30:29.000 Someone in the chat.
03:30:31.000 What's his campaign manager?
03:30:32.000 Chris something.
03:30:33.000 Chris Levitica, some bullshit like that.
03:30:34.000 And then the woman, Kellyanne something.
03:30:36.000 Those are the two main things.
03:30:38.000 Fire them.
03:30:39.000 No war with Irene.
03:30:40.000 I think those are the top two things.
03:30:42.000 He's given one of them today.
03:30:44.000 He's given one of them today.
03:30:45.000 To quote him, because I wrote this down, he literally said, I do not want to do anything bad to Iran.
03:30:51.000 He did say that.
03:30:52.000 He did say that.
03:30:52.000 Here's the problem, right?
03:30:53.000 When you become a racist, when you become labeled a racist, supremacist, all these derogative terms, your voice is diminished.
03:31:05.000 And as a president-elect that wants to win, you have to have the people's vote.
03:31:11.000 So by default, listen, Trump is not dumb.
03:31:14.000 He sees an opportunity here where there's some people with power influencing actual movement in the needle.
03:31:20.000 He's going over there.
03:31:21.000 The grippers, I mean, to be real, they're cool people, I guess.
03:31:24.000 I don't know.
03:31:24.000 But to them, it's like, yo, where's the vote going that's going to benefit me in the long run?
03:31:27.000 And it's going there.
03:31:28.000 Sorry.
03:31:30.000 From a strategic perspective, he's seen that this is a small number of people.
03:31:34.000 This is a huge number of people.
03:31:36.000 I'm going to lose that entire base if I appease these people.
03:31:39.000 And then that's why he keeps disavowing.
03:31:42.000 Even Jerry Vance was disavowing, isn't he?
03:31:44.000 A number of interviews he disavowed.
03:31:45.000 Yeah, he talked about Nick.
03:31:46.000 I don't think that's a smart decision, man.
03:31:48.000 Hold on, hold on.
03:31:50.000 I'll explain why, but go ahead.
03:31:52.000 Keep going.
03:31:52.000 Why don't you think it's a smart decision?
03:31:55.000 Because...
03:31:55.000 To win this election.
03:31:56.000 Yeah, so here's the thing.
03:32:00.000 As we can see right now with Kamala's campaign, the internet is huge, plays a huge role on social media, etc.
03:32:07.000 And I think that this campaign is going to be won via social media.
03:32:11.000 The Gripers are fucking crazy, bro.
03:32:13.000 There's a lot of them.
03:32:14.000 The thing is this, they're hidden.
03:32:16.000 You don't know who they are.
03:32:18.000 They're anonymous, etc.
03:32:19.000 Because obvious, because they have controversial views, right?
03:32:21.000 They're very conservative, etc.
03:32:23.000 But there's a lot of them.
03:32:25.000 And The youth is what the GOP needs.
03:32:30.000 They've always had the boomer voting, right?
03:32:32.000 Cool, whatever.
03:32:33.000 But if you're able to fucking galvanize an entire generation, because they're all Gen Zers, these guys are fucking young, in their 20s, etc.
03:32:39.000 They're gonna be pretty fucking active.
03:32:41.000 But your argument isn't for this election, though.
03:32:43.000 It's for the future.
03:32:44.000 But Trump doesn't have another option.
03:32:47.000 Like, he's gotta win this time.
03:32:48.000 If he doesn't win this time, he's going to jail, guys.
03:32:50.000 I don't think y'all understand.
03:32:51.000 This is do or die.
03:32:52.000 No, but you're proving our point.
03:32:53.000 You're making our point.
03:32:55.000 They can't save him, bro.
03:32:56.000 He's fucked.
03:32:57.000 Literally, he's fucked.
03:32:58.000 These guys, we're talking about, they're great.
03:32:59.000 They help you a lot.
03:33:00.000 For the future.
03:33:01.000 No, I'm saying there's a lot of them.
03:33:02.000 No, no, but...
03:33:02.000 No, but not right now.
03:33:03.000 They can help him right now, bro.
03:33:04.000 Yeah, yeah.
03:33:05.000 That's what I'm saying.
03:33:06.000 I think they can help him.
03:33:07.000 They can help him.
03:33:07.000 I don't think.
03:33:08.000 They can only do memes, but they can help him in real life, bro.
03:33:11.000 I'm telling you.
03:33:12.000 No, no, no.
03:33:15.000 I'm just saying, bro.
03:33:16.000 Look at it from his point of view.
03:33:17.000 I might actually go to jail and lose this presidency if I go down this path.
03:33:21.000 I agree.
03:33:22.000 Or...
03:33:22.000 Hold on.
03:33:23.000 Let me finish.
03:33:24.000 Who am I going to align with?
03:33:26.000 People of power and status?
03:33:27.000 Or people that make memes that are fun and punch a needle?
03:33:31.000 And to be honest with you, bro.
03:33:32.000 Look, you know why you don't know, nigga?
03:33:35.000 Because they don't come up to you.
03:33:36.000 When I was at the RNC, they were everywhere.
03:33:40.000 No, no, that's great.
03:33:41.000 They were, yo, I'm telling you.
03:33:42.000 That's amazing.
03:33:43.000 They were fucking everywhere.
03:33:44.000 But hold on.
03:33:45.000 You know who's everywhere, too?
03:33:46.000 These people of high power.
03:33:48.000 And when they say go, it's go.
03:33:49.000 They can do some memes, bro, but that ain't changing nothing.
03:33:52.000 Bro.
03:33:54.000 There's a lot of...
03:33:55.000 Hold on.
03:33:55.000 I agree.
03:33:56.000 Even though I like the Goypes...
03:33:57.000 I have been in these rooms.
03:33:59.000 Bro, they can't do shit compared to these people.
03:34:01.000 You can say, oh yeah, this or that.
03:34:03.000 Bro, when they say go, it's go.
03:34:04.000 How many Goypes do you think there are?
03:34:07.000 How many Goypes do you think there are?
03:34:10.000 In total.
03:34:11.000 Bro.
03:34:11.000 Hundreds of thousands.
03:34:13.000 Easily.
03:34:13.000 Give us a number.
03:34:15.000 I think anyone that is right-leaning, that's young, especially in their 20s, more than likely is a gripper to some degree.
03:34:23.000 Guaranteed.
03:34:24.000 I disagree.
03:34:25.000 Yeah, I agree.
03:34:25.000 You disagree?
03:34:26.000 People don't know what that even means.
03:34:28.000 Okay.
03:34:29.000 Dude, dude, the masses.
03:34:31.000 Hold on, hold on.
03:34:32.000 You think there's 100,000 grippers?
03:34:35.000 Bro, you gotta remember, they're not gonna come out and say, yeah!
03:34:38.000 Like, when you have certain viewpoints in the United States, especially conservative right-leaning, and you're young, you're not going to say your political views ever.
03:34:46.000 Why do you think white people in general never tell you who they're going to vote for?
03:34:48.000 Have y'all niggas ever caught up to that?
03:34:50.000 How's a white person?
03:34:51.000 Who do you vote for?
03:34:52.000 Oh, excuse me, that's private.
03:34:54.000 But I was fucking my wife yesterday, blah, blah, blah.
03:34:55.000 They don't tell you who they're voting for.
03:34:58.000 And I'm telling you, it's even more so now with young people.
03:35:00.000 Because it's not cool to be conservative as a young guy.
03:35:03.000 At all!
03:35:03.000 I think you're biased, bro.
03:35:05.000 You'll see.
03:35:07.000 Because I'm telling you, bro, the needle that needs to be moved, you can't move by some memes and some people online.
03:35:12.000 It has to be done behind the scenes, and Trump understands that.
03:35:14.000 So look...
03:35:15.000 I don't even think there's 100,000.
03:35:17.000 Because look, a good evidence of that is, because mainly you would say they're online, right?
03:35:22.000 And if you look at Nick's following on Rumble, it's about 90,000.
03:35:26.000 If you look at his Twitter page, it's about 300,000.
03:35:29.000 Not all of them will be gripers.
03:35:31.000 And so I don't think there's even 100,000.
03:35:34.000 I used to think maybe 20,000, 30,000.
03:35:36.000 Okay, but let's say 50,000, 60,000, 70,000.
03:35:38.000 That, from Trump's strategic perspective, let's give your number of 100,000.
03:35:42.000 From Trump's strategic perspective, 100,000 people, Out of them, some of them will still vote for Trump.
03:35:47.000 But definitely none of them will vote for Kamala.
03:35:50.000 And then you've got this entire base of people...
03:35:53.000 Or they won't show up.
03:35:54.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
03:35:55.000 Which is also terrible.
03:35:56.000 So either option one is, either some of them will vote for Trump, or they won't show up, but they will not vote for Kamala, right?
03:36:04.000 And then you've got this entire base of people who will vote for Kamala, and actually would not vote for Trump because of these people.
03:36:10.000 And what he's doing is try to bring them in.
03:36:12.000 And that's basically what he's doing.
03:36:14.000 Yeah, he's trying to get the people in the middle ground.
03:36:15.000 Yeah, yeah.
03:36:16.000 So he's got Bill Ackman in.
03:36:17.000 He's got Elon Musk.
03:36:19.000 Elon Musk is a prime.
03:36:20.000 All of these people in who call these people like Nazis, white supremacists, so on and so forth, as you've seen in the interviews.
03:36:27.000 And what he's done is created that base.
03:36:29.000 And that's why when you talk about what you said on there, that he is pro-immigration, but just anti-illegal immigration, as again for this.
03:36:35.000 So in reality, when you look at his entire strategy, it's to win in one month's time.
03:36:40.000 It's to win the moderates.
03:36:41.000 And to win in a month's time.
03:36:42.000 And the libertarians.
03:36:43.000 Yeah, of course.
03:36:43.000 If he appeased this group, He would not win in a month.
03:36:45.000 But here's the problem with that, though.
03:36:47.000 Like, I get it.
03:36:47.000 You gotta go ahead and appease the guys in the middle.
03:36:51.000 To win in a month.
03:36:52.000 To win.
03:36:54.000 But the problem with people in the middle is they're very susceptible to advertising, to swings, to...
03:37:03.000 Also, keep in mind, guys, we have factors coming into this election that weren't present before.
03:37:07.000 We have an enormous gambling industry now.
03:37:10.000 That is involved in this fucking situation.
03:37:13.000 That's fucking things up, right?
03:37:15.000 Like, people are creating all these betting things.
03:37:18.000 People are using these gambling websites more than actual polls now, right?
03:37:22.000 And they're using gambling websites.
03:37:25.000 So, there's been an explosion.
03:37:27.000 On gambling apps, gambling websites, over the past couple of years, you could look at the stake and the betting thing, all this shit, right?
03:37:32.000 Now they're bringing it into the political world.
03:37:34.000 Obviously, the explosion of X being a free speech platform, that's a big deal, right?
03:37:40.000 Use social media usage in general.
03:37:42.000 Keep in mind also, guys, social media usage exploded after 2020.
03:37:46.000 More people watch YouTube.
03:37:47.000 73% of Americans watch YouTube.
03:37:49.000 Right?
03:37:49.000 Or use YouTube.
03:37:50.000 Right?
03:37:51.000 Also, X is a trap, by the way.
03:37:53.000 It's normally for your speech.
03:37:54.000 Just so you know.
03:37:54.000 But continue.
03:37:55.000 Yeah, have your conspiracy theories.
03:37:57.000 No, it's true.
03:37:57.000 That's fine.
03:37:59.000 Yeah, we know the certain terminologies that are banned, right?
03:38:01.000 Bro, it's true, bro.
03:38:02.000 Yeah, that's fine.
03:38:04.000 And that's cool.
03:38:05.000 But, like, what I'm saying is that we have a different election now.
03:38:09.000 And the thing is, is that these moderates that they're trying to go after...
03:38:13.000 Are susceptible to changing their mind on election day.
03:38:15.000 So I think it's better to just lean into the people that supported you from the beginning.
03:38:18.000 But also, man, it's them.
03:38:20.000 Because you need, I genuinely believe, you need to galvanate your original supporters, right?
03:38:26.000 And force them to come out.
03:38:27.000 Like, hey, look.
03:38:29.000 You might have not voted last time.
03:38:30.000 You thought I had it in the bag with Biden.
03:38:32.000 Because I'll tell you guys, I've liked Trump since 2016.
03:38:34.000 But I didn't go out in 2020 because I was like, he got it in the bag.
03:38:36.000 I don't need to fucking vote.
03:38:37.000 And at the time, I was registered to vote in Connecticut, which is a blue state every single time.
03:38:41.000 But now that I know that the stakes are the way that they are, I'm like, alright, I gotta fucking vote.
03:38:45.000 I think...
03:38:46.000 Going to your core support group and really leaning into them, I think is better than trying to pull these dudes that are in the middle, that will change their minds depending on what it is.
03:38:54.000 Look at Elon!
03:38:54.000 He's only voting for Trump because of his own personal business opportunities in the future.
03:38:59.000 And then he's impacted a lot more people.
03:39:01.000 And so this is the issue.
03:39:02.000 Not only do you get...
03:39:03.000 So let them do it, not you.
03:39:04.000 Not only do you get that base, but in addition to that, you've seen a lot of his donors now.
03:39:09.000 And we know that APAC, We know these companies, I mean, sorry, these organizations, these NGOs, these PACs have a significant influence on American politics.
03:39:18.000 They decide who's going to win.
03:39:20.000 And in addition to that, if you look at the donors, you mentioned Adelson and various other donors.
03:39:26.000 Again, none of them would be giving him money if he appeased them.
03:39:30.000 Because remember, this group is very...
03:39:32.000 Look how hard he's trying for the Jewish vote.
03:39:35.000 And so there's no way that he could get that vote and he'd be making all these statements if he brought these people into the fold.
03:39:41.000 It's not possible.
03:39:41.000 It's not even about getting that vote, it's about getting that money.
03:39:46.000 That money.
03:39:46.000 I meant the money, yeah.
03:39:47.000 We're forgetting he's getting companies supporting him as well.
03:39:50.000 So, I get it.
03:39:51.000 It is a moderate group of people that are in the middle.
03:39:54.000 You're right, he should get his core audience.
03:39:56.000 But guess what?
03:39:56.000 Right now he needs to win no matter what.
03:39:58.000 Can we pull up Project 2025 real quick?
03:39:59.000 He has to win now, bro.
03:40:00.000 If he doesn't win now, he's fine.
03:40:00.000 Of course, of course.
03:40:01.000 But I think alienating your original people Might not be the best move.
03:40:05.000 I'll tell you something else.
03:40:06.000 Can I have one more thing?
03:40:07.000 I'll tell you one more thing.
03:40:08.000 You know, this group, like I said, most of them are still going to vote for Trump.
03:40:12.000 I'll tell you that now as well.
03:40:13.000 So he knows that even when he does this, they're going to vote for him.
03:40:15.000 But also, keep in mind, when you align yourself with these people of that group, just by title alone, you know what you become?
03:40:23.000 Well, they still attack him on it too.
03:40:24.000 They still to this day say, oh, well, you had dinner with a white supremacist.
03:40:27.000 Which I guarantee you...
03:40:28.000 To this fucking day, they say that stupid shit.
03:40:29.000 That's why he disavows.
03:40:30.000 But hold on.
03:40:31.000 Think about why he doesn't want to do an interview with us.
03:40:34.000 For that very reason.
03:40:35.000 He doesn't want any type of issues like that coming to his campaign.
03:40:38.000 I get it.
03:40:38.000 It makes sense.
03:40:40.000 And if you look at it, right, this group is definitely going to vote for Trump as well.
03:40:44.000 So even more than that.
03:40:45.000 That's crazy.
03:40:46.000 We'll go do an interview with Aiden who does drugs.
03:40:49.000 Remember, it's the terminology of what we fall under that is the issue.
03:40:53.000 It's not really his actions.
03:40:54.000 But that just goes to show you You know, talk about certain groups, right?
03:40:58.000 It's just...
03:40:59.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.
03:41:00.000 Exactly.
03:41:00.000 If you look at the gripe wall, even all of them keep saying, we've got no issue with Trump.
03:41:05.000 We still like Trump.
03:41:07.000 Of course.
03:41:07.000 But we have an issue with the campaign.
03:41:09.000 So what that tells me is they're going to vote for Trump.
03:41:12.000 Hold on.
03:41:12.000 Maybe not all of them, but at least 70-80% are.
03:41:15.000 So even more so, it adds to our argument that you shouldn't worry about.
03:41:18.000 If I was a politician, if I was Trump, I would be thinking, yeah, I'm not worried about them.
03:41:21.000 I'm not worried about these guys.
03:41:22.000 And you know how you really, in fact, change?
03:41:24.000 You don't attack somebody from the front.
03:41:26.000 You go from within.
03:41:27.000 You know what Trump did?
03:41:27.000 Trump was smart.
03:41:28.000 He went to Russia.
03:41:29.000 He went to North Korea.
03:41:31.000 He spoke to them in person, met them and said, you know what?
03:41:33.000 I'm going to call this alliance where they have my back.
03:41:35.000 Because you don't fight somebody from the front.
03:41:37.000 They can see you coming.
03:41:38.000 But once you're inside, that's how you really win the wars, bro.
03:41:41.000 But you're fighting it head-on, you're gonna get fucked.
03:41:43.000 Literally.
03:41:44.000 Let's pull out this 20-25 thing.
03:41:46.000 I still think it's better to appeal to your core base and then galvanate them to come out and force them to vote.
03:41:53.000 And I think doing moderates by proxy is okay.
03:41:56.000 Getting someone like an Elon Musk to say he endorses you, right?
03:42:00.000 Let him pull the people for you.
03:42:03.000 You don't have to do it yourself.
03:42:04.000 Get someone big, they endorse you, and then bam, they'll bring in all their cronies, right?
03:42:08.000 Because there's people that are going to vote for them just because, I love Elon!
03:42:11.000 Yeah, but that's the point though.
03:42:12.000 Elon, on Bill Alckman, and Peter Thiel, and all of these guys would not be pulling in people for you unless you disavowed them.
03:42:20.000 Exactly.
03:42:20.000 You can't have both.
03:42:21.000 You've got to choose a choice.
03:42:22.000 You can't have both because, remember- Muskarin stayed in Nick.
03:42:25.000 No, no, no, but he didn't do it because- I don't want to see it as a camera, but I know why he really did it.
03:42:29.000 He didn't do it for speech.
03:42:33.000 Let's just say that you can't both.
03:42:34.000 Yeah, he did it for strategic purposes, right?
03:42:36.000 It's not because of what you think it is.
03:42:38.000 Well, if you notice, he didn't want to talk about Israel on the space at all.
03:42:41.000 He kept switching the topic every single time.
03:42:44.000 Exactly.
03:42:44.000 But do you know why?
03:42:47.000 Because X is very...
03:42:52.000 Anti-Zio X. Well, like I said, Zerka knows what's happening too.
03:43:00.000 They let you speak just to know who you are to fuck you up later on.
03:43:03.000 I'm telling you right now.
03:43:04.000 It's not free speech, my friend.
03:43:05.000 It's a trap.
03:43:07.000 There you go!
03:43:09.000 I'm in these rooms.
03:43:10.000 They say hello all the time.
03:43:11.000 Oh, these fuckers?
03:43:11.000 Oh, we know who they are now.
03:43:12.000 Perfect.
03:43:13.000 And the thing about social square, for example, they know your social square online.
03:43:18.000 Once they get that about you and they know who you are, you're fucked.
03:43:21.000 I'm telling you, bro.
03:43:21.000 It's coming.
03:43:22.000 Look at China.
03:43:23.000 It's here.
03:43:24.000 So, security of the border, and deport illegal aliens.
03:43:28.000 I agree with that.
03:43:28.000 De-weaponize the federal government by increasing accountability and oversight of the FBI and DOJ. I agree with that.
03:43:32.000 Unleash American energy production to reduce energy prices.
03:43:36.000 Cut the growth of governmental spending to reduce inflation.
03:43:38.000 Make federal bureaucracies more accountable to the democratically elected president and Congress.
03:43:41.000 So, in other words, that means get rid of these fucking deep state people.
03:43:46.000 Which people always say, what is a deep state?
03:43:47.000 Guys, the deep state are the guys...
03:44:06.000 Disavow.
03:44:10.000 We actually agree with that.
03:44:11.000 Trump doesn't agree with that.
03:44:13.000 But also, another thing in Project 2025 was abortion at day zero.
03:44:19.000 There was other points in there.
03:44:22.000 Are there more points here?
03:44:25.000 No.
03:44:25.000 I mean, they should be, right?
03:44:26.000 Because I saw a longer list.
03:44:27.000 Yeah, I don't even consider this radical right, bro.
03:44:29.000 This is crazy to me that they said that this is radical right.
03:44:32.000 No, the one they had the most issue with was the fact that you're not allowed to do abortion at all.
03:44:38.000 Is that in here?
03:44:39.000 Yes.
03:44:40.000 The document's bigger than that.
03:44:41.000 I read it.
03:44:42.000 I glimpsed through quite a bit of it.
03:44:43.000 Okay.
03:44:44.000 Well, yeah, they're going to obviously...
03:44:46.000 Abortion is one of those topics that, like, you know, it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't thing.
03:44:51.000 So I think Trump's position on it is actually very smart, saying, hey, states, you deal with this shit.
03:44:55.000 Yeah, it's a good political decision.
03:44:58.000 I wouldn't deal with this president either.
03:45:00.000 I think what Trump is doing is somewhat smarter because he's appealing to a certain demographic and a certain genre of people.
03:45:07.000 But if you look at it from a standpoint of networking itself, what he's doing is he's playing the part to make progress for the election to win.
03:45:16.000 That's what it really is here.
03:45:18.000 So, look, one of the points that the GRIPers are against is immigration, right?
03:45:22.000 So, in the sense of Trump is against illegal immigration.
03:45:29.000 Musk is...
03:45:29.000 Both of them are saying the same thing.
03:45:31.000 We're against illegal immigration, but we're for legal immigration.
03:45:35.000 Yeah.
03:45:35.000 And...
03:45:36.000 The Gruyper's argument is that there should be zero immigration.
03:45:41.000 So, two questions.
03:45:43.000 One is, what's better for America?
03:45:45.000 And the second thing is, what's going to get him the election?
03:45:48.000 Because I think they're two different answers.
03:45:49.000 Yeah, so my take on this when it comes to immigration, I actually made a post about this.
03:45:53.000 I think immigration is only good.
03:45:57.000 If you bring in people of certain skill sets, right?
03:46:00.000 And what I would do is I'd be like, all right, look.
03:46:02.000 Because here's the thing.
03:46:03.000 A lot of people don't understand, like in America, right?
03:46:05.000 And I know this from coming from my professional background.
03:46:08.000 It's actually extremely easy to come to the United States if you get an F1 visa.
03:46:12.000 Extremely easy.
03:46:12.000 You can go sign up at some bullshit language school, get a visa issued, come to the United States.
03:46:17.000 Then so many people come in here, exploit the F1 visa program, and just disappear into the wind.
03:46:22.000 They use it just to get into the United States.
03:46:23.000 They don't even go to fucking class, right?
03:46:25.000 So what I would do is, number one, I would make the F1 visa.
03:46:28.000 You want to be a foreigner, come to one of our schools?
03:46:30.000 You need to go to a school that's actually going to give you a career field that benefits us, motherfucker.
03:46:34.000 You're not going to go ahead, learn English, and go back to your country.
03:46:37.000 Or worse yet, say you're going to learn English, come here and use that shit to your advantage so you can come in and work here illegally.
03:46:42.000 That's what so many people do.
03:46:43.000 They exploit that shit.
03:46:43.000 So I shut down all these stupid ass schools, these charter schools, whatever, that just continuously bring these illegal aliens in, right?
03:46:50.000 That's number one.
03:46:51.000 Then, if you do want to come, you need to major in some kind of infrastructural department that we lack in, right?
03:46:58.000 We know that with engineers, science, technology, and math, etc., we're behind China.
03:47:03.000 So if you want to come here, you want to go ahead and go to our schools and get our education, Not only do you have to come here and do these fields, you have to commit to giving us that labor for a period of time.
03:47:18.000 Then, I would also, because it's checks and balances, the companies that hire you, you only have a certain amount of spots allotted to foreign nationals.
03:47:26.000 75% of your workforce has to be American citizens.
03:47:29.000 25%, you can go ahead and take foreigners.
03:47:31.000 What does that do?
03:47:32.000 That makes sure that the foreigners that we do take are the best and fucking brightest.
03:47:37.000 And we go ahead and get their labor for four or five years, then the company can decide if they want to go ahead and petition to get them something more permanent.
03:47:44.000 That way, we get the talent.
03:47:46.000 The talent works for us.
03:47:48.000 We control the talent.
03:47:50.000 They're controlled to a degree, 25% only.
03:47:52.000 So I would incentivize these companies.
03:47:53.000 And it's only in infrastructural jobs that benefit us, right?
03:47:57.000 And then the company decides if they want to keep them longer or not.
03:48:02.000 And we have incentivizations to make sure they hire American citizens first.
03:48:06.000 What about the low-level jobs that a lot of people do that a lot of Americans don't want to do?
03:48:10.000 For example, cleaning the roads, maybe garden work.
03:48:15.000 What about that?
03:48:16.000 Because immigrants come in and do that work for us.
03:48:19.000 Of course.
03:48:20.000 To be fair, their standpoint, we wouldn't be here right now either.
03:48:22.000 Me or you.
03:48:23.000 The Goypers.
03:48:25.000 So that means that we wouldn't even be here right now.
03:48:28.000 Oh, you'd be deported.
03:48:29.000 Yeah, we'd be deported.
03:48:30.000 No, I was born here.
03:48:32.000 And you already got your citizenship from...
03:48:35.000 Isn't their position, and do correct me if I'm wrong, but they want mass deportation of people who've even born here.
03:48:41.000 No.
03:48:42.000 That's not their position.
03:48:43.000 That's not their position.
03:48:44.000 No.
03:48:44.000 They just want immigration to stop now.
03:48:47.000 Because we have an immigration problem now.
03:48:49.000 I'm sure I saw mass deportation.
03:48:53.000 If you're illegal.
03:48:55.000 But let's say you weren't even here yet.
03:48:57.000 What do you mean?
03:48:58.000 And they evoke those laws.
03:49:00.000 Well, you gotta remember, I was born here, so...
03:49:04.000 I'm giving, like, an example.
03:49:06.000 Okay, what do you mean?
03:49:07.000 I'm just saying, like...
03:49:09.000 I think he's trying to make the argument that your parents came here, right?
03:49:12.000 Yeah.
03:49:12.000 And so he's trying to...
03:49:13.000 I think he's making the argument that your parents came here, so they benefited from immigration.
03:49:17.000 Yes, of course, of course.
03:49:17.000 But now you've benefited from it, you want to block everybody else from it.
03:49:20.000 Of course, but you gotta remember that this is in the 1970s.
03:49:23.000 It was a different time.
03:49:24.000 Versus now.
03:49:25.000 You know what I mean?
03:49:26.000 Completely different time.
03:49:27.000 Like America in the 1970s was not the America that we have now.
03:49:32.000 I get what you're saying, but I just think it should be, criminals shouldn't be allowed.
03:49:35.000 If you're a criminal, 100%.
03:49:37.000 But if you're a hardworking citizen of your country, yeah, come through.
03:49:40.000 But work for our benefit as well.
03:49:42.000 That's why I said you gotta come in and you gotta have a skill set that benefits the United States directly.
03:49:46.000 You know what I mean?
03:49:47.000 So I agree with your point, your position actually.
03:49:48.000 Because you're making an argument, well, hey, low-skilled workers, who's gonna do the low-skilled work?
03:49:52.000 Well, we gotta get the fucking Americans, get them off their asses, less welfare, less social welfare.
03:49:58.000 Here's the thing.
03:49:59.000 They're too lazy, bro.
03:49:59.000 Yeah, they're too lazy.
03:50:00.000 Well, the other thing, too, also, is that we give so many goddamn benefits out for free, a lot of people are like, we don't need to work.
03:50:05.000 That's what I'm saying.
03:50:06.000 But, dude, we've done that for years.
03:50:07.000 You think they're gonna change now?
03:50:08.000 Take it away.
03:50:08.000 Less welfare.
03:50:10.000 Let's social assistance.
03:50:11.000 We gotta stop that shit and make these motherfuckers get out and work some more.
03:50:14.000 Bro, these niggas are changing.
03:50:16.000 They're fat, overweight, dumb, and they don't want to do nothing.
03:50:19.000 Bro, think about it.
03:50:19.000 I can't say America.
03:50:21.000 Nine years ago, my job I was doing was a job with three people.
03:50:26.000 Isn't that crazy?
03:50:27.000 At a call center.
03:50:28.000 I was doing three people's jobs myself.
03:50:30.000 That's crazy, bro.
03:50:31.000 So I agree with your position, but then I think his point is really important as well.
03:50:35.000 So I agree with you as well, because in reality, most people don't realize this.
03:50:38.000 What happens in any kind of economy is you have your normal economy, and you have your...
03:50:43.000 What we can call it, the black market economy.
03:50:45.000 Black market economy, yeah.
03:50:46.000 Right?
03:50:46.000 And in reality, you need both to succeed.
03:50:49.000 Now, if you said, I don't want no black market economy, that's fine.
03:50:53.000 That would be a utopian society, but there is no such thing as a utopian society.
03:50:57.000 So what do I mean by black market economy?
03:50:59.000 It's for example, like people who are not that wealthy, who will, for example, let me give you a UK example.
03:51:04.000 You're not that wealthy.
03:51:05.000 You're just about hitting minimum wage.
03:51:06.000 You need, your houses are damaged.
03:51:09.000 You know, you need some plastering done in your house.
03:51:12.000 You're not going to pay the full rate.
03:51:14.000 You're going to find someone from Poland who lives there, and you're going to pay them a tenth.
03:51:18.000 At Home Depot.
03:51:19.000 Yeah, so for you guys it's Mexicans.
03:51:21.000 But a tenth of the price, right?
03:51:23.000 And that allows the fact that you're so poor to survive in that entire economy.
03:51:27.000 That you're able to get that work done.
03:51:29.000 So you're not poor, you're above most people, but you're not at that level where you could spend stupid amounts of money.
03:51:34.000 So the black market economy is actually very, very important.
03:51:37.000 People don't realize how important it is when it's linked to the normal economy.
03:51:41.000 So in reality, when you've...
03:51:43.000 And to do that, you do actually need a lot of low-skilled workers.
03:51:45.000 Now, are you saying that people born in the UK, people born in America are going to do that?
03:51:50.000 They're not going to do...
03:51:51.000 Okay, maybe you can condition them over time, but we know...
03:51:55.000 One of the main complaints I have against about Gen Zs and Millennials is they're not even willing to do the jobs we were doing.
03:52:01.000 Never mind these low-level jobs where they're going to have to graft on the roads or work in farmers.
03:52:06.000 You know farmers in the UK because farming is quite big there.
03:52:08.000 One of the main complaints they always had is we cannot get Brits to do farming.
03:52:12.000 We have to get...
03:52:14.000 Migrants to do it.
03:52:14.000 We have to get sometimes, you know, these type of people to do it.
03:52:16.000 It doesn't happen.
03:52:17.000 So in reality, what you're saying is you want to change the entire culture to people who never mind working as hard as us.
03:52:23.000 You want them to work harder than what we did.
03:52:26.000 Well, we have a lot of problems going on at the same time.
03:52:28.000 We have the explosion of feminism.
03:52:30.000 We have social media.
03:52:33.000 There's so many different issues going on here.
03:52:36.000 We're in a bunch of debt.
03:52:39.000 We've exported so many of our infrastructure jobs, industry jobs.
03:52:42.000 We don't make anything anymore in the United States.
03:52:44.000 We really don't.
03:52:45.000 We export so much shit and we rely heavily on China.
03:52:48.000 Because we have these greedy businessmen that want to turn an amazing amount of profit so they go ahead and get these low skilled workers in other countries for almost nothing.
03:52:58.000 The Nikes, the car companies, etc.
03:53:01.000 And we just have them go ahead and make all of our shit.
03:53:03.000 And then we're able to go ahead and make big things, but we lose American jobs doing that.
03:53:07.000 Right?
03:53:08.000 So...
03:53:08.000 Yeah, exporting.
03:53:10.000 So there's many issues to be had.
03:53:13.000 But the immigration problem, we definitely got to get it under control.
03:53:15.000 I'm not saying I'm against immigration forever.
03:53:18.000 No.
03:53:19.000 But right now, we definitely got to get it under control.
03:53:20.000 And this always happens after every democratic swing...
03:53:24.000 I don't know if you guys remember this.
03:53:26.000 I remember this vividly because this is when I came on the job.
03:53:29.000 In 2014, when I got sent to the border, we had a border crisis back then.
03:53:32.000 It always happens under a Democrat where there's a border fucking crisis.
03:53:36.000 Every single time.
03:53:37.000 Also, when you look at the immigration...
03:53:39.000 Also, when you look at the immigration into the US, it's Mexico, India, and China.
03:53:47.000 So really, India and China is not giving you that lower-skilled workers anywhere.
03:53:51.000 So in reality, you can minimize immigration to a significant extent and do what you said, which is get the people who are going to benefit you.
03:54:00.000 And then you can also have some people who will do the lower-skilled jobs, and you can balance it out and still reduce immigration significantly.
03:54:08.000 I'm for foreign labor, but...
03:54:09.000 But the best and the brightest.
03:54:10.000 I remember Trump mentioned...
03:54:11.000 We steal them, especially from our adversaries.
03:54:13.000 Chinese, Iranian...
03:54:15.000 Because they want to come here, bro.
03:54:16.000 They want to be in a democracy.
03:54:17.000 I mean, I'll be honest with you.
03:54:19.000 I have significant reservations.
03:54:21.000 You know, when you have Chinese and Indians in high-level places, but specifically Chinese...
03:54:28.000 I just have this...
03:54:29.000 Just from my own study, I've read a lot of Chinese culture and Chinese society.
03:54:34.000 They take over.
03:54:35.000 They have loyalty to their own country.
03:54:37.000 That too.
03:54:37.000 Some of them are spies, of course.
03:54:39.000 And so in reality...
03:54:40.000 There's always that risk.
03:54:41.000 But it's a huge risk because if you look at it, right?
03:54:43.000 So first of all, if you look at it, a lot of Chinese people were married to a lot of rich billionaires and millionaires and somehow all this trade happened with China.
03:54:51.000 Also the boys.
03:54:51.000 Exactly.
03:54:52.000 And a lot of them, and that's why a lot of trade happened with China.
03:54:55.000 That's the first thing.
03:54:56.000 But in addition to that, certain events occur and you look at the psychology of people.
03:55:00.000 Look at COVID. COVID occurred.
03:55:03.000 In the UK, we weren't as extreme as you guys.
03:55:05.000 We kind of reduced measures very early on.
03:55:08.000 And so people weren't masking as much.
03:55:11.000 People weren't following it.
03:55:12.000 But you know who were?
03:55:14.000 Chinese people.
03:55:15.000 So they were following the law of the kind of ideology of their own country when it comes to COVID, as opposed to the UK. So what that shows me is that actually, there is, get the best and brightest as much as you can, but then there needs to be this kind of oversight because I think there is infiltration.
03:55:31.000 I'm not saying give them clearances and everything else like that.
03:55:34.000 Infiltration.
03:55:35.000 Yeah, yeah, of course.
03:55:36.000 Chinese spying is a very big, I mean, bro, if we're going to be honest, Chinese, Russian, Israeli.
03:55:41.000 Come on, man.
03:55:43.000 These countries spy on us all the time.
03:55:45.000 We don't talk about the Israeli spies as much.
03:55:47.000 But yeah, Russian and Chinese spies all the time get fucking busted.
03:55:50.000 I remember Trump did an interview when he spoke about his workers and where the most of them come from for construction.
03:55:57.000 Mexico.
03:55:57.000 Exactly.
03:55:58.000 So there's a huge market for people with money as well, for these people to work for them.
03:56:03.000 So I just mean it needs to be a place for them as well in the economy.
03:56:06.000 That's all I'm saying.
03:56:07.000 But, um, chats?
03:56:09.000 Or we should do the first topic?
03:56:11.000 Yeah, we can.
03:56:12.000 Shit, this is a long news episode for y'all ninjas.
03:56:15.000 Anything else that you guys want to talk about with the Trump thing?
03:56:18.000 I like that he mentioned foreign policy.
03:56:20.000 Like, that is the most important thing.
03:56:21.000 I generally do think it's the most important thing.
03:56:23.000 I mean, they didn't say too much, though.
03:56:25.000 They're yapping about a bunch of shit.
03:56:26.000 Yeah.
03:56:28.000 I think global warming is a scam.
03:56:29.000 I don't think there should be...
03:56:32.000 That was just Elon trying to get paid.
03:56:33.000 Yeah, like, incentive.
03:56:34.000 But it's funny.
03:56:35.000 I don't think...
03:56:36.000 Elon's funny because, like...
03:56:37.000 There's honestly issues that I think are, like, at the bottom of the totem pole.
03:56:42.000 Like...
03:56:43.000 Like, African-American community issues.
03:56:45.000 Bro, the 13% of the population.
03:56:47.000 You know what Trump didn't really get into?
03:56:48.000 Global warming.
03:56:50.000 Black genocide.
03:56:50.000 World War II, bro.
03:56:51.000 Black what?
03:56:52.000 Black genocide.
03:56:53.000 Yeah.
03:56:53.000 No, because what I was looking at, I was looking at the data, and what it is, is over time, the white population has reduced significantly in the U.S., but so has the black population as well.
03:57:02.000 Really?
03:57:02.000 Yeah, yeah.
03:57:03.000 The Hispanic population has been exploding probably, right?
03:57:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:57:05.000 That's what's growing significantly.
03:57:07.000 Is the Muslim population growing in the U.S.? Yeah, a lot.
03:57:10.000 Not that much, bro.
03:57:11.000 Still a huge minority.
03:57:12.000 Where else, though?
03:57:14.000 No, where else?
03:57:15.000 Where, though?
03:57:16.000 So, US, I don't know about.
03:57:17.000 I know in UK, they're always...
03:57:18.000 So, UK, that's fake.
03:57:19.000 We have even less here than...
03:57:21.000 Well, actually, could you Google it?
03:57:23.000 Amount of Muslims in the United States?
03:57:24.000 Yeah, you guys have less.
03:57:25.000 I think we have less than you guys.
03:57:26.000 Yeah, you guys do.
03:57:27.000 But in terms of UK, so this is like always fake propaganda.
03:57:31.000 People see on X, because X is more towards the right, significantly.
03:57:36.000 So, Muslims...
03:57:36.000 That's what I like.
03:57:37.000 1.3%.
03:57:39.000 1.34%.
03:57:40.000 1.34% in the United States?
03:57:42.000 So it's less than the Jewish population.
03:57:43.000 And what is it in the UK? In the UK, it's 6.5%.
03:57:46.000 And the UK in 2011 was 4.5%.
03:57:50.000 So I know UK stats like the back of my hand.
03:57:54.000 So 2011 UK was 4.8%.
03:57:57.000 So in the UK, it's only grown by 1.7% in 10 years.
03:58:02.000 In 10 years.
03:58:03.000 That's nothing.
03:58:04.000 Just to give you a comparison, in them 10 years, Christianity has dropped by 40%.
03:58:09.000 What are they converting to?
03:58:12.000 Atheism.
03:58:13.000 Really?
03:58:14.000 Yeah, yeah.
03:58:14.000 Atheism has increased by nearly 20-30%.
03:58:16.000 Makes sense.
03:58:17.000 Yeah.
03:58:18.000 So Christianity is a minority religion in the UK now.
03:58:21.000 Wow.
03:58:21.000 Makes sense.
03:58:23.000 The world's ending, my friend.
03:58:24.000 Well, my belief on that is that basically what happened in the UK was...
03:58:30.000 So it's not like these people are converting to Islam.
03:58:32.000 They're just becoming atheists.
03:58:33.000 They're becoming atheists, yeah.
03:58:34.000 And so, how did that happen?
03:58:36.000 What happened was, there was this attack on religion, but by attacking Islam.
03:58:41.000 So people said, oh look, Muslims are against LGBTQ, Muslims are against trans, Muslims are against feminism.
03:58:47.000 And so what happened was, they attacked that ideology so much, they actually made people give up religion.
03:58:53.000 And so you saw this through people like Tommy Robinson, and many of these people who continue to attack Islam, saying, oh these guys are homophobic, these guys are misogynistic, these guys are anti-LGBTQ, they made people give up their religion.
03:59:05.000 Yeah, and nobody wants to be that hater or bigot.
03:59:08.000 So they just, you know what, I'm gonna just say I don't want to be anything.
03:59:11.000 So just to be safe.
03:59:11.000 Yeah, exactly.
03:59:12.000 Fair enough.
03:59:13.000 What were we talking about before the...
03:59:15.000 Oh!
03:59:15.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
03:59:16.000 I was saying that the issue...
03:59:17.000 Because, like, I remember on the debate, right?
03:59:20.000 Because I was reacting to it.
03:59:21.000 Like, Trump and Biden spent a significant amount of time talking about historically black colleges.
03:59:26.000 And in my head, I was like, why?
03:59:27.000 This is a waste of fucking time.
03:59:29.000 Because at the end of the day, and people always get mad at me, Myron, you always criticize me.
03:59:33.000 It's like, but bro, they're 13% of the population.
03:59:36.000 Historically black colleges are even a smaller fraction.
03:59:38.000 Like, why are we over here talking about historically black colleges?
03:59:41.000 Like, college already is a scam.
03:59:43.000 Now you want to talk about a minority of the overall scam?
03:59:46.000 This is a waste of time.
03:59:47.000 Talk about foreign policy.
03:59:48.000 They didn't talk about Israel.
03:59:50.000 They didn't talk about Russia.
03:59:51.000 They didn't talk about the shit that really matters.
03:59:52.000 Because I think the reason why the American public needs to focus on this shit is because you don't control foreign policy.
03:59:58.000 You can only control the people that are in control of the foreign policy.
04:00:01.000 So you need to actually pay attention to that.
04:00:03.000 Well, you know what's funny?
04:00:04.000 Because that's what has the biggest ramifications on the cost of your food.
04:00:07.000 Hold on.
04:00:08.000 Elon brought up World War III. You know what Trump did?
04:00:11.000 Yeah, so this.
04:00:13.000 Just diverted it.
04:00:14.000 I'm like, hold on.
04:00:15.000 That's important because it's coming right now.
04:00:17.000 He just dodged it completely.
04:00:18.000 Well, because you have to have the Israel discussion.
04:00:21.000 And Elon does not want to talk about Israel.
04:00:23.000 No, no, no.
04:00:24.000 Trump didn't talk about it.
04:00:25.000 No, no.
04:00:26.000 He was trying to talk about it.
04:00:27.000 I don't know if you noticed it.
04:00:29.000 No, Trump brought up Israel like three or four times.
04:00:31.000 Elon, quickly...
04:00:32.000 No, no, Elon brought up World War III. No, no, he did.
04:00:34.000 So what happened there was when Elon brought up World War III, Trump was talking about the various countries that have nuclear capabilities.
04:00:42.000 Yes.
04:00:43.000 Nuclear warfare or whatever he said.
04:00:44.000 Whereas Elon was like talking about nuclear energy.
04:00:47.000 Now, I don't know if he did it on purpose or there was just a misunderstanding, but there clearly was this kind of misdirection going on.
04:00:53.000 Accidental or intentional misdirection that was going on.
04:00:55.000 Yeah.
04:00:56.000 But in terms of what you said about why it's less, and I agree with you, that it's less important to talk about that community in that situation is because black people just vote Democrat.
04:01:05.000 And unfortunately...
04:01:07.000 Like 90% plus.
04:01:08.000 Yeah, yeah.
04:01:08.000 It's just ridiculous.
04:01:10.000 Because what you're showing is you don't have no autonomy.
04:01:12.000 You don't have critical thinking skills.
04:01:14.000 And you're not able to put your community first.
04:01:17.000 Because in reality...
04:01:20.000 If you tell someone that you're going to guarantee them the vote, they don't care about you.
04:01:23.000 Actually, if they said that your vote could be earned, then both would fight for you.
04:01:28.000 So if anything, you're harming yourself by guaranteeing yourself the Democrat vote.
04:01:32.000 That's good point.
04:01:33.000 Look, controversial take.
04:01:35.000 If I was the president, if I was running for president, I wouldn't even care.
04:01:38.000 About them.
04:01:38.000 Like, I would run for the majority.
04:01:41.000 I wouldn't even care about...
04:01:42.000 Because this is my thing.
04:01:43.000 If your policy is good, they're going to vote for you anyway.
04:01:45.000 If your shit makes sense...
04:01:47.000 Because here's the thing.
04:01:48.000 When I was at the RNC, right?
04:01:50.000 Because we all know that, you know, like you said, a majority vote Democrat.
04:01:54.000 The guys I talk to...
04:01:55.000 Head on shoulders.
04:01:56.000 Sharp.
04:01:57.000 Understand what the fuck is going on.
04:01:58.000 Understand the economy.
04:01:59.000 Understand foreign policy.
04:02:00.000 Understand how inflation works, etc.
04:02:03.000 Not moved by stupid music.
04:02:05.000 I'm at the Cartier family over there.
04:02:07.000 Hold on.
04:02:07.000 Hold on.
04:02:08.000 Hold on.
04:02:08.000 I'm at the Cartier family there.
04:02:10.000 We did an interview, etc.
04:02:10.000 Right?
04:02:11.000 Young black guys.
04:02:12.000 Right?
04:02:13.000 Very sharp.
04:02:14.000 Very aware of what the fuck is going on.
04:02:16.000 They understand the Democrat propaganda.
04:02:19.000 All this shit.
04:02:19.000 So...
04:02:20.000 If you're not an idiot, right?
04:02:22.000 And you understand how the world works in general, there's no way that you're not going to vote right most of the time, right?
04:02:29.000 But most people are idiots.
04:02:31.000 So I look at it like, look, you're not going to convert the idiots a lot of times because to convert the idiots, you have to do stupid shit like Kamala's doing right now.
04:02:37.000 Not really name your policies, rely heavily on celebrity endorsement, right?
04:02:41.000 Beyonce endorsed her.
04:02:43.000 Bring Meg DeStein to work at your first rally where there's kids there.
04:02:47.000 Bring in a criminal like Quavo who's a moron, right?
04:02:50.000 Like...
04:02:50.000 That's what you have to rely on.
04:02:52.000 It's all smoke and mirrors is what I said the Democratic Party always runs on.
04:02:55.000 And that's what they vote for.
04:02:56.000 So I'm like, look, why am I going to go ahead and spend a significant amount of campaign dollars on trying to appeal to a community that 9 out of 10 times isn't going to vote for me.
04:03:06.000 They're going to call me a racist.
04:03:07.000 They're going to talk shit.
04:03:08.000 A lot of them are stupid and don't understand foreign policy or understand how the world works anyway.
04:03:12.000 Like, fuck it.
04:03:13.000 I'm going to just make good policies and the smart ones will come to me.
04:03:15.000 When I was at the RNC, a lot of fucking really intelligent black people I met there that had their heads on straight.
04:03:20.000 Yeah, but you're forgetting the masses, like you just mentioned, are not smart.
04:03:24.000 But you know, also another good point as well?
04:03:26.000 Yeah.
04:03:26.000 So, yes, the black vote, in my opinion, isn't an immediate want.
04:03:32.000 However, when you talk about black people and what their standards are, white people, other races, you know what?
04:03:39.000 Damn, I have a black friend.
04:03:40.000 I want this.
04:03:41.000 So by default, I'm a proximity.
04:03:43.000 You affect all classes.
04:03:44.000 You're right.
04:03:44.000 That's a good point.
04:03:45.000 That's true.
04:03:45.000 With their vote being won over, you win over a bunch of people as well that support black friends.
04:03:49.000 Because a lot of people...
04:03:50.000 That's a good point you mentioned.
04:03:52.000 I should have mentioned that.
04:03:53.000 The black vote brings with it a lot of people that love black culture.
04:03:57.000 Do you know how many white people I see fight for black people?
04:03:59.000 I'm like, you don't have a black.
04:04:00.000 But because their friends are black, they have really black...
04:04:04.000 Boyfriends or girlfriends?
04:04:04.000 They love the culture.
04:04:05.000 Oh my god, you just said I love black people?
04:04:07.000 I'm gonna report you.
04:04:08.000 It's like, it's serious, bro.
04:04:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:04:10.000 A lot of SJWs and people that love the culture, love the music, etc.
04:04:14.000 They go crazy.
04:04:15.000 Social media amplified it so much.
04:04:16.000 Remember all the idiots that put the black screen on Instagram?
04:04:19.000 BLM! Bro, I'm like, you're white!
04:04:22.000 What's wrong with you?
04:04:22.000 You're fucking Hispanic!
04:04:24.000 Oh yeah, but I have a black friend.
04:04:25.000 I'm like...
04:04:26.000 Alright bro, I get it.
04:04:27.000 Yeah.
04:04:28.000 But the problem, right, with that is that they just see skin color for everything.
04:04:31.000 Like me, I don't care about skin color.
04:04:32.000 So I look at it like IQ, right?
04:04:35.000 But I just so happen to realize that like...
04:04:38.000 The Democrats play the propaganda.
04:04:40.000 They play the race game.
04:04:41.000 They play the propaganda.
04:04:42.000 They play the racism card.
04:04:43.000 Because it works.
04:04:43.000 Because it works, bro.
04:04:44.000 Yeah.
04:04:44.000 It works.
04:04:45.000 Remember the lady with the boiling water that threw out of the police?
04:04:48.000 Because I think systemic racism is a scam.
04:04:50.000 I think police brutality is a scam.
04:04:52.000 I think it's all a lie.
04:04:53.000 Like, I generally don't think that racism is...
04:04:55.000 I don't think racism is a problem in 2024 like a lot of these FBAs try to make it seem.
04:05:02.000 It's an agenda.
04:05:03.000 Yeah.
04:05:04.000 But it puts the people towards that agenda.
04:05:05.000 It's crazy because, like...
04:05:07.000 If you look at it from the social media standpoint, White, Hispanic, and even freaking Chinese, not only Chinese, white, Hispanic, Indian, are pushing towards black people.
04:05:17.000 Because they want to support whatever is right and is going to be...
04:05:20.000 Because it's cool.
04:05:20.000 Because black culture is so prevalent in American culture.
04:05:22.000 And there's music.
04:05:23.000 It's so strong in American culture.
04:05:24.000 It's all impacting everybody.
04:05:25.000 It is.
04:05:26.000 So on some level, it's going to affect the vote no matter what we do.
04:05:28.000 I see what you mean.
04:05:29.000 Because you're not just getting the black vote, you're also getting the contemporary cool vote too.
04:05:32.000 But to your point, to be on it for that much time is kind of crazy.
04:05:36.000 Bro, they were talking about historically black colleges in the debate.
04:05:38.000 I was like, bro, are you serious, bro?
04:05:39.000 It's too much.
04:05:39.000 I don't give a fuck about history with black colleges.
04:05:41.000 And I don't care.
04:05:43.000 I know most of the people watching this debate definitely don't fucking care, bro.
04:05:47.000 We don't care.
04:05:47.000 But again, they want to feel good about who is winning because if they can be themselves and be free and be independent, that's all they really care about.
04:05:54.000 Yeah, mentality.
04:05:56.000 SJWs, man.
04:05:57.000 So just to add to what you said.
04:05:59.000 Virtuously, yeah.
04:06:00.000 So the first thing is, I agree with you that in terms of the black vote, it does bring a large proportion of the vote in, which is the left vote.
04:06:07.000 Because in reality, when you look at what makes the left the left, Is the fact that they've always kind of cared about minorities, they've cared about other issues.
04:06:15.000 Good point, yeah.
04:06:16.000 So that is an important aspect.
04:06:17.000 Now, the black vote is actually an untapped vote in America because in reality, when you look at it, they're actually becoming an even more minority in a nation where they had more.
04:06:26.000 So for example, in 1776, allegedly there was 20% black people.
04:06:30.000 I know that it reduced down to 10%.
04:06:31.000 Really?
04:06:34.000 Actually, you know what?
04:06:35.000 Let me just trigger your right fan base.
04:06:38.000 But in reality, Blacks were the majority in 1610, right?
04:06:43.000 Right.
04:06:43.000 Oh yeah, because of slavery.
04:06:44.000 Exactly.
04:06:45.000 Because think about it, there's one slave master and everybody else is in the plantation, right?
04:06:50.000 So, I mean, that's the first thing.
04:06:52.000 And then it was in 1776, it was 80-20, then it went down to 90-10 over time.
04:06:56.000 But now if you look at it, they're only 13%.
04:06:59.000 It means a significant reduction.
04:07:00.000 So you could easily tap into their vote to say that actually you guys are also losing, you know, your people, their birth rate is also reducing.
04:07:09.000 There's that issue.
04:07:10.000 In addition to that, so that's one aspect.
04:07:11.000 The other thing is, I do actually think there's systemic racism.
04:07:14.000 And I'll explain to you why.
04:07:15.000 It's not as bad as a prevalent as people claim, but it's not that it doesn't exist at all.
04:07:20.000 So for example...
04:07:21.000 Yeah, racism does exist.
04:07:22.000 Yeah.
04:07:22.000 Oh yeah.
04:07:23.000 But I just mean as in, it's no longer an excuse that the left can use for being like, not successful.
04:07:29.000 But good to you, sorry.
04:07:30.000 No, no, no.
04:07:30.000 For example, there was a case in the US and it was about mortgages.
04:07:34.000 And what happened was people from black neighborhoods, poor black neighborhoods...
04:07:39.000 In the 1970s, yeah.
04:07:40.000 No, there was one in the 70s, one recent in the...
04:07:42.000 I mean, they couldn't get mortgages until the 1970s.
04:07:44.000 Oh, right.
04:07:45.000 Okay, yeah.
04:07:45.000 But the more recent case was that what happened was people from the black neighbourhood and people from the white neighbourhood, they were both poor neighbourhoods.
04:07:52.000 They were applying and not getting mortgages.
04:07:54.000 And what happened was they sued them and it actually clearly showed the discrimination that happened for mortgages.
04:08:00.000 And mortgages are important because when you're poor, the way of getting out of your situation is to get a mortgage, get a house, try to build yourself up and so on and so forth.
04:08:06.000 Yeah, most people, their money comes from their equity.
04:08:08.000 Yeah.
04:08:09.000 Who controls the mortgages?
04:08:11.000 Exactly.
04:08:12.000 Exactly.
04:08:12.000 And I do think that, look.
04:08:15.000 It always comes back then.
04:08:17.000 Yeah.
04:08:17.000 And I do believe that the bell did do a targeted attack on the black community.
04:08:22.000 If you look at, but that's through policy.
04:08:23.000 So this is systematic.
04:08:25.000 So they did it through the housing policies.
04:08:26.000 NAACP? Yeah.
04:08:27.000 They did it through the media.
04:08:29.000 They did it through various other things.
04:08:30.000 They did it through governmental policies, schooling policies.
04:08:33.000 So- Music industry?
04:08:34.000 Music industry, Hollywood industry.
04:08:36.000 They did it through all of that.
04:08:37.000 So that is systemic.
04:08:39.000 That is systemic.
04:08:40.000 And now they're doing the same thing to the white community.
04:08:42.000 So you're seeing it now when there's feminism increasing, there's white women not giving birth.
04:08:46.000 I know people are like, oh, you're not allowed to say about the beautiful white woman.
04:08:49.000 But I'm just telling you, that's the type of...
04:08:50.000 No, it's true.
04:08:51.000 Yeah, but people get upset.
04:08:52.000 I mean, even on our own show, when we look at the people that are on birth control, it's the Caucasian girls most of the time.
04:08:57.000 Okay.
04:08:58.000 Right?
04:08:58.000 Either typically they're Caucasian or they're in school or in college or college educated.
04:09:03.000 They have a higher likelihood of being on birth control.
04:09:07.000 Because we asked that question now.
04:09:08.000 Yeah, yeah.
04:09:09.000 And that's a golden question, a golden example of what I'm saying.
04:09:11.000 So in reality, you're seeing that it's happening even in that culture.
04:09:16.000 And so there is that targeted attack for sure.
04:09:18.000 So I don't think that it's systemic.
04:09:20.000 It is systemic.
04:09:21.000 It was systemic against black people before.
04:09:23.000 Now I believe it's systemic against white people.
04:09:24.000 And I'm a big believer that in the UK, maybe we're different.
04:09:28.000 Maybe it's different in the US. But for example, many of us went to like a law school and many of us went to medical school.
04:09:36.000 We had higher grades than people, and we basically, we had higher grades than people, lower grades than us, who were basically white or whatever, actually got in ahead of us.
04:09:45.000 So I do think that in the UK, maybe it's slightly different, but there was in the past, I think it's less so now that I'm talking about in the early 2000s, there was this happening to the minority community.
04:09:58.000 Interesting.
04:09:59.000 Yeah.
04:10:00.000 Okay, you want to hit chats and then we'll, or Mo, did you have a message for the people?
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04:10:08.000 Guys, get your chats in right now, because we're going to read them all right after this.
04:10:11.000 This was a great show, though, man.
04:10:12.000 I do want to hit Iran real quick.
04:10:14.000 Yeah, yeah.
04:10:14.000 Yeah, because that's really important.
04:10:16.000 And then we can close out after that.
04:10:17.000 Yeah, because that's really important.
04:10:19.000 It's imminent, man.
04:10:20.000 Guys, get your chats in right now, guys, whether it's on Castle Club.
04:10:24.000 Just do it on Castle Club, or if you want, you can rumble in it or whatever, but obviously Castle Club.
04:10:27.000 Bro, isn't it crazy?
04:10:29.000 I was in Barbados, right, last week, and everyone's partying, having fun, enjoying the festival.
04:10:35.000 I'm thinking to myself, looking on Twitter, like, yo, the world's about to end, nigga.
04:10:38.000 World War III's happening, or might happen soon, and it's like, all the friggin' bombings that happened recently with, you know, the iron dough not working, it's almost like if, like, bro, it's happening right in front of your eyes, but you can't see it because you're so focused on partying and getting lit and drinking alcohol.
04:10:53.000 But it's like, fuck, we're on the diet, bro.
04:10:54.000 Like, what's going on, man?
04:10:55.000 Yeah, the girls have no idea.
04:10:57.000 All right, go ahead, Mo.
04:10:57.000 Take it away.
04:10:58.000 And then, guys, get your chats in right now.
04:10:59.000 We'll reach out to this break.
04:11:01.000 Trump's saying about the Iron Dome.
04:11:02.000 That was, like, the most ridiculous point as well.
04:11:04.000 Oh, yeah.
04:11:04.000 There's no need.
04:11:05.000 We got the Atlantic Ocean.
04:11:06.000 Yeah.
04:11:08.000 Go ahead, Mo.
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04:12:35.000 Alright.
04:12:36.000 Dimos?
04:12:38.000 So, Nick actually has a space right now with like 9,000 people in there.
04:12:42.000 Have you guys noticed how hard Google is shadow banning the Twitter space?
04:12:45.000 Will not come up at all.
04:12:46.000 No matter the keywords.
04:12:47.000 Only garbage like CNN's coverage of the interview came up.
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04:12:49.000 Of course.
04:12:50.000 For a reason.
04:12:51.000 Fresh updates?
04:12:52.000 That's fresh.
04:12:53.000 Okay.
04:12:54.000 The Yacht Party and this entire past weekend was fucking incredible.
04:12:57.000 Thank you, Fresh, for the opportunity and the entire FNF crew for pulling off another historic weekend on the books with all my Cats Club brothers.
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04:13:03.000 Shout out to you, bro.
04:13:04.000 We got some haters trying to say that the party wasn't lit.
04:13:06.000 Like, bro, what the fuck?
04:13:07.000 So this is what happened, right?
04:13:08.000 Guys, just so you know, people always spread propaganda to turn down an awesome time and they don't rock with us so they want to make us look really bad.
04:13:17.000 They had a ratio between, I want to say, seven to one.
04:13:21.000 Girls to guys.
04:13:22.000 It was not many girls on the boat.
04:13:23.000 Ask anyone that was there.
04:13:24.000 And guys, look at the street.
04:13:26.000 You know how I was crazy?
04:13:27.000 A girl messaged me.
04:13:28.000 I was like, why did you come on the yacht?
04:13:29.000 She was like, I was there.
04:13:30.000 Yeah.
04:13:32.000 Yo, I swear to God.
04:13:33.000 She was like, yo, a girl that I was talking to.
04:13:37.000 I was like, yo, why did you come on the yacht?
04:13:39.000 Whatever.
04:13:40.000 She messaged me and said, I was there.
04:13:41.000 And I was like, what?
04:13:42.000 I told her, send me a picture.
04:13:44.000 She sent me a picture.
04:13:44.000 I said, what the fuck?
04:13:45.000 I didn't even see you.
04:13:46.000 I'm telling you.
04:13:47.000 Yo, these bitch ass niggas.
04:13:48.000 Hold on!
04:13:48.000 Yo, hold on!
04:13:49.000 Anus in reach, fuck as shit.
04:13:50.000 Fucking losers, man.
04:13:51.000 I'm going to see a video right now, because niggas need to know what time it is, bro.
04:13:53.000 We don't play.
04:13:54.000 Anyhow, all I'm saying is that they put out some clips that aren't even indicative of what happened on the boat.
04:14:00.000 And they're saying it flops.
04:14:01.000 Nigga, we made a profit.
04:14:03.000 Niggas have fun.
04:14:03.000 We at the club afterwards.
04:14:05.000 And the goal wasn't to make a bunch of money, stupid fucks.
04:14:07.000 I told y'all that from the beginning.
04:14:09.000 But in any case, we showed them a good ass time.
04:14:12.000 Everyone had fun.
04:14:13.000 No, but was there anybody complaining who actually went?
04:14:15.000 No.
04:14:15.000 No.
04:14:16.000 Only haters that talk shit about us trying to say this party was whack.
04:14:20.000 Bro, I fucking...
04:14:21.000 Oh my god, man.
04:14:22.000 Bills, go to takeover real quick.
04:14:24.000 Those are bad out of context.
04:14:26.000 Ask anyone that was actually at the party what the fucking ratio was, bro.
04:14:30.000 I cockblocked myself.
04:14:31.000 You did, you did, you did.
04:14:33.000 Cockblocked myself, bro.
04:14:34.000 Yo, it was funny though.
04:14:37.000 And also keep in mind, guys, that I was like in the front of the boat the whole time, right?
04:14:42.000 Where there weren't that many girls because it was loud as hell everywhere else.
04:14:46.000 So I was staying where I could stream and not get in the way.
04:14:48.000 Guys, I was the one talking to all the girls behind the scenes.
04:14:51.000 Yeah, I was running around putting out fires.
04:14:53.000 Who was the first target?
04:14:54.000 Just kidding.
04:14:55.000 But no, it was lit.
04:14:57.000 Bro, when I first showed up on the stream, y'all saw it.
04:14:59.000 How many girls were waiting in line?
04:15:01.000 Yep.
04:15:01.000 And then a guy won a Rolex.
04:15:03.000 Yeah.
04:15:04.000 Oh!
04:15:04.000 Funny story.
04:15:05.000 It's crazy how people like, number one, downfall on how people watch our shit and try to say, oh, look, look, there's no girls.
04:15:11.000 It's like, well, are you guys stupid?
04:15:12.000 Like, bro, haters, man.
04:15:14.000 Haters, haters, haters.
04:15:15.000 I'll say this.
04:15:16.000 Nick can never do what we did.
04:15:17.000 Hell no.
04:15:18.000 Bro.
04:15:19.000 Yo.
04:15:19.000 Bro.
04:15:19.000 Ain't this in reach.
04:15:20.000 Throw a party right now.
04:15:21.000 Let's see how many niggas show up.
04:15:22.000 Nobody.
04:15:23.000 You fucking bums.
04:15:24.000 You dusty, dirty fucking bums.
04:15:26.000 Furthermore, girls.
04:15:28.000 Bro.
04:15:28.000 Just saying.
04:15:29.000 Fucking losers, man.
04:15:30.000 All these niggas do is hate from that dirty-ass room, man.
04:15:33.000 Yo, Bills, look at this video.
04:15:35.000 You guys tell me, this is just a walk-in of some of the girls that came on a boat.
04:15:39.000 Go ahead, play, bro.
04:15:39.000 Looks like a movie.
04:15:44.000 Just a walk-in alone.
04:15:46.000 Just a walk-in alone.
04:15:51.000 No ratchets.
04:15:52.000 No strippers like that.
04:15:53.000 None of that shit, bro.
04:15:55.000 Just regular.
04:15:56.000 New girls, though!
04:15:57.000 New girls!
04:15:58.000 Yeah.
04:15:58.000 And it's funny, because, like, bro, niggas are like, yo, bro, Fresh Myron, this is the most girls I've ever saw in my life.
04:16:03.000 Thank you.
04:16:04.000 We got you, brother.
04:16:04.000 We got you.
04:16:06.000 Come on, man.
04:16:07.000 Haters can hate, but it's what it is, bro.
04:16:10.000 Bro.
04:16:11.000 Dudes be hatin', man.
04:16:12.000 But you know what it really is, bro?
04:16:14.000 It's cool.
04:16:14.000 They watch our shit.
04:16:15.000 Without haters, we would not be where we are today.
04:16:19.000 Yeah, he'll watch our videos.
04:16:21.000 I will sit there, watch our videos, but still won't put on boxing gloves and fight.
04:16:25.000 That tells you what kind of fucking pussy he is.
04:16:27.000 That's fine, though.
04:16:28.000 Let's keep going.
04:16:29.000 Fucking terrified of me, bro.
04:16:31.000 Yo, Myron, you actually, G, you helped me not care about what other people think.
04:16:34.000 I always see people talking bad about you, but you still put in the work every week.
04:16:37.000 Yep.
04:16:37.000 Dropping great episodes with new guests, suppressing your actual thoughts because you're scared of people's opinions as hell.
04:16:41.000 Nah, fuck that shit.
04:16:41.000 I said what I want to say, like I said before.
04:16:43.000 The art detractors are losers, guys.
04:16:45.000 The dudes that talk the most shit about us are losers.
04:16:47.000 Yep.
04:16:48.000 Look at them.
04:16:49.000 Look at me.
04:16:50.000 I would talk shit about me if I was them, too.
04:16:52.000 You're right.
04:16:52.000 I wish I caught Friday's show live because there's a little more to that NYPD story that most people don't realize.
04:16:57.000 The three cops were there working and the Haitian dude started recording them.
04:17:00.000 The female cop approached and said something to him and he continued recording.
04:17:03.000 She then tried to get him to stop and leave and slapped the phone out of his hand, which led him to punching her in the face, nose broken, multiple stitches needed.
04:17:09.000 It don't matter, bro.
04:17:10.000 You don't punch a cop.
04:17:10.000 That was stupid.
04:17:11.000 I don't care if she slapped the phone out of your hand.
04:17:12.000 Yeah.
04:17:13.000 Like, that's stupid.
04:17:14.000 With his position in oil and gas, Elon is effectively making sure that his business will last another 20, 50 years, which will give him the whole economy monopoly for a good chunk of time.
04:17:23.000 Yeah, guys, I mean, keep in mind that Twitter's not profitable, so he's got to make that money back somehow.
04:17:28.000 Mr.
04:17:29.000 B? Vien's got put in due to Don Jr., Tucker, and Bongino pushing for him to Trump.
04:17:34.000 They mentioned this in their RNC interview together.
04:17:37.000 Biden lost that game of golf.
04:17:38.000 I think they should have put Vivek in.
04:17:40.000 I think Vivek would have been better, but that's fine.
04:17:42.000 JD has the connects.
04:17:43.000 That's what they want.
04:17:43.000 Bro, don't get the gripers angry.
04:17:45.000 Vivek!
04:17:47.000 I mean, look, I got my access to ground with Vivek.
04:17:50.000 I do think he's kind of fake.
04:17:52.000 He didn't want to come on our podcast.
04:17:53.000 He got scared.
04:17:55.000 But I think, optically speaking...
04:17:58.000 Basically, we had Vivek on the Mario space, and then he was attacking China at that time, saying, oh, we shouldn't do anything with China.
04:18:06.000 And then I did a bit of research and found that he's got companies in China, and he made the money.
04:18:09.000 So I asked him, and then, yeah, he got exposed.
04:18:14.000 Yeah, I mean, look, man, he's a good talker, but I think optically, he might have been a better person optically.
04:18:20.000 But, yeah.
04:18:21.000 Hey, man, what do you think about YouTube CEO passing away?
04:18:24.000 Check my Twitter.
04:18:25.000 That sucks, man.
04:18:25.000 Yeah, I'm not going to say much more.
04:18:28.000 If Americans want...
04:18:28.000 I mean, look, I never wish death upon anybody.
04:18:30.000 A lot of people are trying to celebrate her death, which I think is kind of sick and weird.
04:18:33.000 Yeah.
04:18:35.000 Listen.
04:18:36.000 Guys, at the end of the day, she has kids and she has a family.
04:18:38.000 So, you know, recipes to her.
04:18:40.000 You may not agree with what she did.
04:18:41.000 I mean, shit, I might not agree either.
04:18:42.000 But death is not something you want to celebrate.
04:18:44.000 Yeah, bro.
04:18:45.000 I would never celebrate anybody.
04:18:46.000 Because when you die, you wouldn't want it to happen to you, would you?
04:18:48.000 Yeah, bro.
04:18:49.000 So, yeah.
04:18:50.000 Recipes to her.
04:18:52.000 I don't have to agree with her political views to still realize that she's a human being and she has children and family.
04:18:56.000 Yeah.
04:18:57.000 You know what I mean?
04:18:58.000 If Americans want the best immigrants, then America should stop distributing and destabilizing other countries.
04:19:02.000 The U.S. is just getting the poor people from country.
04:19:04.000 They either bombarded directly or let their allies bombard.
04:19:07.000 You give shit, you give shit back.
04:19:09.000 I mean, yeah.
04:19:09.000 I mean, we have destabilized a lot of countries that caused the mass migration that we're dealing with.
04:19:14.000 Well, is that true, though?
04:19:15.000 Because when I was looking at...
04:19:17.000 We're good to go with it mostly.
04:19:18.000 Yeah, it's not even us, it's Europe.
04:19:19.000 It's Europe, it's Europe.
04:19:20.000 That's Europe, really?
04:19:21.000 Yeah, yeah.
04:19:21.000 Because when I was looking at the US stats, you guys are not actually getting people from the countries you bomb.
04:19:26.000 Yeah, no, no, no, we're not.
04:19:27.000 You ain't bombing India, you ain't bombing China, you ain't bombing Mexico.
04:19:30.000 France, United Kingdom, Spain, you guys are the ones dealing with.
04:19:32.000 No, no, UK aren't either.
04:19:34.000 So like with the UK, our migrants are India, China, Nigeria.
04:19:39.000 So again, it's not from countries that are getting bombed.
04:19:41.000 They claim some of our illegal immigrants are, which is possibly true.
04:19:44.000 But again, it's not a huge number of them because again, a lot of our illegal immigrants are also from India.
04:19:48.000 But I hear it's from Europe, but I haven't looked at the European stats.
04:19:53.000 Okay.
04:19:53.000 Interesting.
04:20:03.000 Mr.
04:20:09.000 B, you're comparing hoes to who's going to change the world right now?
04:20:12.000 Come on, bro.
04:20:13.000 Really?
04:20:15.000 And bro, remember, he just needs their vote.
04:20:17.000 That's it.
04:20:17.000 Mr.
04:20:18.000 B, this is the world you're talking about where your life is on the line versus a fucking theory of war.
04:20:22.000 And also, didn't Trump do that?
04:20:25.000 He's literally brought in people who betrayed him in the past.
04:20:29.000 So what you're saying is actually backs his point up because he's brought in J.D. Vance who betrayed him.
04:20:35.000 He's getting cozy with Nikki Haley.
04:20:38.000 Many of the people that he is brought in now.
04:20:40.000 Look, Elon Musk.
04:20:41.000 Do you remember his tweet about Elon Musk?
04:20:44.000 After Elon attacked him, he said, Elon Musk was so desperate for me to give him deals.
04:20:49.000 He was only...
04:20:50.000 At that time, he was so desperate, I would have made him get on his knees and beg.
04:20:53.000 Did you see that?
04:20:54.000 Did you see that tweet?
04:20:55.000 Yeah, that was Trump tweet.
04:20:56.000 So, like, it's the opposite.
04:20:58.000 You're actually proving the point that actually Trump shouldn't be bringing in people who betrayed him in the past.
04:21:03.000 All right.
04:21:04.000 What else?
04:21:05.000 Fresh, I understand.
04:21:06.000 Trump put his enemies in the spotlight to expose them just like how David King...
04:21:10.000 Oh, King David put his enemies on the front lines.
04:21:12.000 Oh, okay.
04:21:12.000 Okay.
04:21:13.000 Peter Darker says, Martin, you should get the sound bite of Porky the Pig stutter.
04:21:19.000 Sorry, stuttering like Fresh in Elon.
04:21:20.000 Okay.
04:21:20.000 Honestly, I don't say that.
04:21:21.000 WFNF. No, you know what it is, bro?
04:21:23.000 Like, I don't say that bad.
04:21:24.000 This is more like, I think so fast, bro.
04:21:26.000 You have to understand, like, I'm thinking, like, 20 things at one time.
04:21:29.000 So, my brain is going, like, 10...
04:21:31.000 You can't keep up with your speech.
04:21:31.000 100 miles per hour.
04:21:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:21:32.000 So, there's a lot going on in my head, bro.
04:21:33.000 Like, a lot going on in my head.
04:21:34.000 Trust me.
04:21:35.000 That's actually what happens with smart people.
04:21:36.000 Yeah.
04:21:36.000 Because when I'm in the room with these people, bro, I'm telling you, bro, I'm coherent as fuck.
04:21:40.000 They don't know what I'm saying, so...
04:21:42.000 I knew you knew.
04:21:42.000 I knew Suleiman knew.
04:21:43.000 I knew.
04:21:44.000 Okay, cool, yeah.
04:21:45.000 Alright, what else we got?
04:21:49.000 Camp Two Times.
04:21:49.000 All right.
04:21:50.000 Camp Two Times says, Myron, I saw that live voice with you, Tommy, and those FBAs, and as a black man, I don't claim them.
04:21:59.000 They sounded real R-word, like a bunch of low IQ girls.
04:22:02.000 The FBAs one time called me white because I didn't give him special treatment at work.
04:22:07.000 Yeah, bro.
04:22:08.000 I did a whole post on FBAs and I exposed them yesterday.
04:22:11.000 Go check it out.
04:22:11.000 Why are they talking about that, though?
04:22:13.000 Foundation of Black Americans.
04:22:15.000 Yeah.
04:22:15.000 Oh, no, no, I know them.
04:22:16.000 I like them.
04:22:17.000 But what I'm saying, what's the thing about Tommy?
04:22:19.000 Oh, he had his face on Twitter.
04:22:23.000 Tommy Sotomayor.
04:22:23.000 Oh, Tommy Sotomayor.
04:22:25.000 Okay, okay, okay, okay.
04:22:26.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
04:22:26.000 No, not Tommy Robinson.
04:22:27.000 I'd rather punch myself in the dick before listening to an Arab Brit about my country's politics.
04:22:32.000 America first, Americans first.
04:22:34.000 Well, that's your opinion, bro, but I mean...
04:22:36.000 He's actually not Arab, he's Pakistani.
04:22:37.000 His good takes.
04:22:39.000 Salman Goof.
04:22:40.000 Yeah, yeah.
04:22:41.000 This dope head...
04:22:43.000 Okay.
04:22:44.000 Nasally Salman dude trying to...
04:22:46.000 It sounds obfuscated when we all know this is about...
04:22:49.000 He's an Islamic extremist against Trump and Elon because he's pro-open borders.
04:22:53.000 He's a tribal...
04:22:54.000 Goofball.
04:23:06.000 Goofball.
04:23:13.000 You will see that I've actually called out the Muslim community a significant amount of times.
04:23:18.000 Heck, there was an essay I wrote in 2016, which was the treatment of Christians in Pakistan.
04:23:24.000 And I was basically monumental in having a Christian woman released because she'd been put into prison, what I believed based on false charges.
04:23:32.000 So, like, I'm actually not tribal, but the only thing is that you're, like, so slow and so retarded that you think that just because I don't agree with your position, for example, when you guys cry and cry and cry about Jews, yeah, Jews,
04:23:48.000 Jews, Jews, they're in charge of everything, but as soon as they tell you to basically attack Muslims in the UK, you do it.
04:23:54.000 As soon as...
04:23:56.000 For example, Marie Le Pen, you guys were supporting her, even though she's a Zionist, even though Tommy Robinson is Zionist back.
04:24:02.000 Why are you all crying about Jews where as soon as the chance comes, as soon as the situation comes, you guys literally bend your knee and bend over for them.
04:24:10.000 So that's the difference.
04:24:11.000 I'm consistent.
04:24:12.000 You aren't.
04:24:13.000 There you go.
04:24:15.000 All right.
04:24:17.000 Let's move on to anything else?
04:24:19.000 We got four more.
04:24:20.000 Four more?
04:24:20.000 Okay.
04:24:21.000 Well, I'm glad you guys got your chats in now while we're reading them.
04:24:24.000 If the policy is good, and guys, just so you know, real quick, guys, we're at Cast Club, guys.
04:24:29.000 As you guys can see here, we're obviously reading all the Cast Club chats.
04:24:31.000 It's significantly cheaper.
04:24:32.000 You're able to go ahead and interact with the show.
04:24:34.000 You know, get in Cals Club.
04:24:35.000 We're going to have a Zoom call for you ninjas this week as well.
04:24:38.000 So guys, join the Cals Club.
04:24:40.000 You guys want to support Free Speech?
04:24:41.000 You guys want to see how we're able to keep the show going for y'all right now?
04:24:43.000 CalsClub.tv, man, while being demonetized is how we're able to do the show.
04:24:47.000 We had a fire call with Chris Cron about real estate and business that was amazing, guys.
04:24:49.000 So go check it out.
04:24:50.000 Yeah, we'll put clips of it on YouTube for you guys.
04:24:52.000 But guys, Cals Club is where it's at, man.
04:24:53.000 Support the movement.
04:24:54.000 If the policy is good, they'll vote for you.
04:24:56.000 It's a reasonable world, yes.
04:24:57.000 However, truth don't matter.
04:24:58.000 What matters is what people think.
04:24:59.000 In a nutshell, we need to find a way to get the stupid people's vote.
04:25:02.000 But it's not by logic that this won't happen.
04:25:06.000 WFNF for the instructive three-way discussion.
04:25:07.000 And contrary to Kamala, you guys actually have your own points on two different topics.
04:25:11.000 Yeah, bro, I mean, that's why social media is so important.
04:25:13.000 W, sure, are you guys getting Candace Owens anytime soon?
04:25:15.000 I'm sure it should be a great addition to the discussion, WFNF. Thank you so much.
04:25:18.000 We'll probably end it here.
04:25:20.000 Kamala got no ass, nigga.
04:25:21.000 Okay.
04:25:21.000 Fresh updates.
04:25:22.000 Fresh updates.
04:25:23.000 Thanks, bro.
04:25:24.000 Is Kamala Indian or African?
04:25:26.000 It doesn't matter.
04:25:27.000 Is she with Jamaican?
04:25:28.000 I do.
04:25:28.000 Yeah, Jamaican.
04:25:29.000 Great show tonight.
04:25:30.000 They probably looked lit as hell.
04:25:31.000 Couldn't make it have responsibility to take care of, but we'll always support y'all until then.
04:25:34.000 Like going married.
04:25:36.000 Like the going married.
04:25:37.000 One piece.
04:25:38.000 Shout out to you, bro.
04:25:40.000 Joe, you seen that fight between...
04:25:41.000 Alright, nevermind.
04:25:42.000 What else we got?
04:25:43.000 Anything else?
04:25:44.000 Can't spoil like that.
04:25:45.000 You're right.
04:25:46.000 That's it?
04:25:47.000 All right, so since we're on the topic of World War III and Iran, so I guess we can...
04:25:53.000 Audience, you guys want us to explain how we got here or not?
04:25:57.000 Give me one to the chat if you guys want me to explain how we even got here to this World War III because some of y'all might not even know how we got to this point.
04:26:04.000 If so, we can go ahead and give you guys a quick recap or we can get into the latest news with it.
04:26:07.000 It won't be too long.
04:26:08.000 But let's see.
04:26:09.000 Or two of you guys just want to go into what's going on now or one of you guys kind of want the history, background.
04:26:14.000 Let's see what they say on YouTube and on Rumble.
04:26:17.000 All right.
04:26:18.000 And just while they're doing that, someone said, oh, you've said about your non-tribal behavior about Pakistan, but what about Muslims?
04:26:25.000 So again, check my writings out.
04:26:26.000 Like, one of the reasons why a lot of people used to dislike me is because I used to call out extreme behavior within...
04:26:33.000 I probably saw that.
04:26:34.000 Yeah, yeah, I called that out.
04:26:35.000 I called out extreme behavior, even like extreme behavior within the Muslim community.
04:26:39.000 Like, again, check my writings out.
04:26:40.000 My writings, I've been writing for up until I came to Twitter from...
04:26:48.000 2010, 2012, I wrote significantly up until 2017.
04:26:51.000 They're on my website as long as a few other websites.
04:26:55.000 You can check them out.
04:26:55.000 It's funny when people call you a jihadi because I'm like, not at all.
04:26:57.000 He's like one of the most moderate voices in here.
04:26:59.000 Like, you don't even talk about religion unless people openly ask you about it.
04:27:02.000 Yeah, look, my expertise is religion, because I went to Islamic school, so I studied significantly.
04:27:08.000 You don't like bring it up, like you talk more geopolitics, unless people ask you about Islam, then you'll answer.
04:27:12.000 You're not over here like some of these guys, like Dili Hussein, who's constantly bitching, like, you know what I mean?
04:27:18.000 Like about, you know, extremist viewpoints and shit like that on Twitter.
04:27:22.000 People like Dili Hussain do not like me because I call out their positions because I believe that a lot of their positions are not mainstream in my view.
04:27:32.000 I think they're a bit too out there.
04:27:34.000 You can look at my writings.
04:27:35.000 I literally call these people out.
04:27:37.000 Now, I'm not trying to appease you if you're chatting nonsense.
04:27:39.000 I know literally all this crying is about is because...
04:27:41.000 When people call you a jihadi, I kind of laugh.
04:27:43.000 I'm not even close.
04:27:44.000 So all of this crying is really what it's about is I don't soak up to anyone.
04:27:50.000 I really don't.
04:27:50.000 Like, I can be friends with anyone from any position.
04:27:53.000 I'm friends with people from the far left.
04:27:55.000 I'm friends with people from the far right.
04:27:57.000 I'm friends with you guys, and you guys have different positions, right?
04:27:59.000 Like, I think that you should be able to have different positions.
04:28:02.000 What they're crying about is because my position about white people is different to theirs.
04:28:07.000 So I believe that a significant proportion of what's happening to white people is because of feminism, is because of birthright, is because of population collapse.
04:28:16.000 And by the way, you know population collapse...
04:28:18.000 These guys have learned about it now because Elon started talking about it a year or two ago.
04:28:21.000 I was writing essays about population caps like 10 years ago.
04:28:25.000 So I'd already figured out the problem 10 years ago and now you guys are learning about it.
04:28:28.000 And what's happened?
04:28:29.000 How can you even argue that though?
04:28:30.000 This is all true.
04:28:31.000 Because if you talk about each issue by itself, it sounds small.
04:28:35.000 When you put them all together, working together, of course it makes sense.
04:28:39.000 Yeah, exactly.
04:28:39.000 So that's the reason I'm crying.
04:28:40.000 And the second reason I'm crying is because I supported the person opposing Marie Le Pen.
04:28:46.000 And the reason, because basically there's Marie Le Pen in France.
04:28:49.000 And there was the socialist or communist on the other side.
04:28:55.000 And I was against Le Pen.
04:28:57.000 And the reason I was against Le Pen, not because I was for these guys, even though they are pro-Palestine.
04:29:02.000 Even though these guys grift off the Palestine issue.
04:29:04.000 But that wasn't actually the reason.
04:29:05.000 The reason is because Le Pen is a Zionist.
04:29:07.000 She literally says, I'm a Zionist and my fight is for the Zionist fight.
04:29:12.000 And she basically went for a march.
04:29:17.000 We're good to go.
04:29:21.000 We're good to go.
04:29:35.000 All the rest of them.
04:29:36.000 The second reason they're crying is because of the UK, what happened in the UK. I was against the people who rioted, and they are, I call them, far-right Islamophobes.
04:29:44.000 That doesn't mean everyone in the far-right, because I don't think...
04:29:47.000 But the far-right Islamophobes, because they were specifically Islamophobes, because Tommy Robinson himself says that his issue isn't immigration, his issue is Islam.
04:29:55.000 And Tommy Robinson is a Zionist.
04:29:57.000 And they lied and said that it was a Muslim who basically did the stabbing on the first day.
04:30:02.000 Yeah, it was really a Rwandan Christian.
04:30:04.000 Yeah, exactly.
04:30:05.000 So I just call that out.
04:30:06.000 And again, I'm not on the side of the Zionists.
04:30:09.000 Again, they're on the side of the Zionists.
04:30:10.000 So what you keep seeing is, these guys cry about Jews all the time.
04:30:14.000 But as soon as the time comes, they literally bend over for the Jews.
04:30:18.000 Or what I say, Zionists.
04:30:20.000 So that's the difference between us.
04:30:22.000 I'm consistent.
04:30:23.000 In terms of Venezuela, someone's crying about that.
04:30:25.000 In terms of Venezuela, again...
04:30:26.000 I didn't want the CIA Mossad overthrow of him.
04:30:29.000 I don't really...
04:30:30.000 I'm not a communist.
04:30:31.000 I don't agree with communism.
04:30:32.000 I think there's major problems with communism.
04:30:34.000 But I also think there's some issues with capitalism as well.
04:30:37.000 Even though I prefer capitalism over communism.
04:30:38.000 You don't want US imperialism in Venezuela.
04:30:41.000 Exactly.
04:30:41.000 So that's what it is.
04:30:41.000 So I'm like literally the most consistent person.
04:30:44.000 Whereas you guys cry about Zionists but be on their side.
04:30:47.000 We need to bring Jackson Hickle in to talk about the Venezuelan stuff.
04:30:50.000 I know a lot of people oppose him on that.
04:30:51.000 Like, oh, Maduro's bad.
04:30:52.000 But I see both sides.
04:30:55.000 I see them saying like, look...
04:30:57.000 The other guy would have brought in American, you know, ideals, the central banks, everything else like that, and Maduro was trying to stay away from that.
04:31:05.000 But I also see people saying, oh, well, Maduro stole the election.
04:31:08.000 Who knows?
04:31:09.000 Look, I don't think he stole the election.
04:31:11.000 I agree with Jackson and his position about Venezuela.
04:31:14.000 But...
04:31:15.000 Even hypothetically, if you did, like, okay, let me be clear.
04:31:18.000 I don't trust any of the elections throughout any of the world.
04:31:21.000 I think the U.S. elections are stolen.
04:31:23.000 Never mind flipping into a buckwheat.
04:31:25.000 So, like, let's not go down this election route.
04:31:27.000 Yeah, they stole it.
04:31:29.000 Bro, you can trust none this year, bro.
04:31:30.000 Yeah.
04:31:31.000 Bro, who knows?
04:31:32.000 Probably the 26...
04:31:33.000 Like, I think all...
04:31:34.000 I think most elections are rigged, to be honest.
04:31:35.000 Fair enough.
04:31:37.000 Alright, so, okay, I think we got a bunch of ones, right?
04:31:40.000 Yeah.
04:31:40.000 Okay.
04:31:40.000 Okay.
04:31:42.000 Suleiman, do you want to go over how we got here with the Iran conflict?
04:31:45.000 Or do you want me to do it?
04:31:47.000 No, I don't mind.
04:31:47.000 Should we go to Rumble?
04:31:50.000 No, it's pretty clean.
04:31:52.000 Yeah, I'll make it geopolitical.
04:31:53.000 I'll keep it geopolitical.
04:31:54.000 Yeah, because it's all a fact.
04:31:56.000 Do you want the current situation or like overall?
04:31:58.000 I'm thinking we could give them like what transpired in the past month.
04:32:01.000 Okay, okay.
04:32:02.000 That has Iran all going crazy.
04:32:04.000 Okay, so I'll do from April actually.
04:32:06.000 Just a small incident in April.
04:32:08.000 Yeah, actually let's start with April.
04:32:10.000 Okay, yeah.
04:32:11.000 So from April guys, this is when Iran actually attacked Israel directly.
04:32:14.000 Yeah, so what happened was you basically...
04:32:18.000 People claim that Iran is funding, financing and supplying Hamas with weapons, right?
04:32:23.000 But they've never directly gone into war with Israel.
04:32:27.000 Now, what happened was Israel bombed an Iranian embassy in Syria.
04:32:32.000 Now, what the rules throughout the whole world is that your embassy is considered your land.
04:32:38.000 So, for example, the UK embassy in America is actually considered UK soil.
04:32:44.000 So, for example, if an American was to attack the UK embassy, it's actually a direct attack on the United Kingdom.
04:32:50.000 It's a declaration of war.
04:32:51.000 It's a declaration of war, but it's actually attacking their land.
04:32:54.000 So, for example, let's say you were running from the US, right?
04:32:58.000 You could go to an embassy, like the Chinese embassy, and they'd give you asylum.
04:33:03.000 America couldn't go inside that embassy.
04:33:04.000 That's how Julian Assange was able to stay safe for 10 years.
04:33:07.000 Exactly, in the Ecuadorian embassy.
04:33:09.000 Just to give you guys an idea of how embassies work and the power and the sovereignty they have.
04:33:14.000 Even in a foreign land, technically, they're still considered the soil of the country that it represents.
04:33:18.000 That's right, yeah.
04:33:19.000 So they bombed the...
04:33:21.000 Iran's embassy in Syria.
04:33:24.000 That's literally a direct attack on Iran.
04:33:27.000 They killed a bunch of high-ranking military officials.
04:33:29.000 They did.
04:33:30.000 They killed a number of high-ranking military officials.
04:33:33.000 So now Iran's forced to respond because this is a direct attack on their nation.
04:33:38.000 So what did Iran do?
04:33:40.000 They...
04:33:41.000 They telegraphed that they were going to retaliate, therefore minimizing the fact that there's going to be severe...
04:33:46.000 They made a commercial about it.
04:33:48.000 Yeah, yeah, they did.
04:33:49.000 But they also let America know, they let American allies know, they let the Arab nations know around.
04:33:56.000 So when they did the drone attacks, America, UK, Israel, even Jordan, Saudi Arabia, they all assembled to stop the drone attacks.
04:34:09.000 Even then some drone attacks got through and they did hit some military bases, even though Israel lied and said that none of them did.
04:34:15.000 And just so you guys know, Israel has a huge, sophisticated Iron Dome, which is designed to shoot missiles down that come towards Israel, Tel Aviv, whatever, maybe all their important places.
04:34:26.000 So what Iran did was they sent different waves of drones.
04:34:29.000 They sent their bullshit in first.
04:34:31.000 Some missiles get used.
04:34:32.000 They sent in their second set of bullshit drones.
04:34:34.000 Those get used.
04:34:35.000 So what they basically effectively did was let's weaken the resources and the missiles in the Iron Dome, which are used to create defense for them.
04:34:44.000 So Iran not only said, hey, we're going to send missiles over, they telegraphed it, and then they did it, and then Jordan, the United States, you said France helped too, right?
04:34:53.000 Yeah, yeah.
04:34:54.000 All the NATO countries basically helped.
04:34:55.000 Israel, all of them worked together to shoot these missiles down from Iran, and they shot a bunch.
04:35:00.000 And some got through and hit the military bases.
04:35:02.000 Now, what's interesting is, just as a point of note...
04:35:04.000 This is April.
04:35:05.000 Yeah, April.
04:35:06.000 So, what's interesting is, as a point of note, is I thought Israel was, like, the big don.
04:35:09.000 I thought they were like, listen, Mike is right.
04:35:11.000 We're all powerful.
04:35:12.000 And yet, what happens is a small little drone attack and they have, basically, NATO assembled and Arab nations assembled for them.
04:35:18.000 And watch our episode with Scott Ritter.
04:35:19.000 He goes into detail about which missiles, like, specifically, Iran used and the mix and model.
04:35:25.000 So, for all you, like, you know...
04:35:27.000 Military guys.
04:35:28.000 War dogs.
04:35:29.000 Yeah, you war dogs.
04:35:30.000 Do you guys like to know what type of missiles and stuff?
04:35:31.000 Scott Rudder actually went into detail into what type of equipment and missiles and technology Iran was using.
04:35:38.000 And the United States, et cetera, shit these missiles down and like the whole situation there.
04:35:42.000 But sorry, continue.
04:35:43.000 Last week.
04:35:43.000 So they did that.
04:35:45.000 And then Israel did that kind of like a retaliation, but it was nothing really happened.
04:35:49.000 So that became the end of the situation.
04:35:51.000 Yep.
04:35:52.000 And then what happened was you basically recently had a scenario where there was a missile that hit the Druze community in the Golan Heights.
04:36:03.000 Now, Israel claimed that this was an attack by Hezbollah.
04:36:08.000 Hezbollah claimed that this was an interceptor, that it was basically an Israeli missile interceptor that hit the Golan Heights.
04:36:15.000 From the Iron Dome that we mentioned to you guys before.
04:36:17.000 Exactly.
04:36:18.000 Now, logically speaking, there's almost zero chance that Hezbollah would do that.
04:36:22.000 Because why would they attack Syrians in the Golan Heights who reject the Israelis?
04:36:28.000 There you go.
04:36:28.000 They reject them to such an extent that...
04:36:30.000 Yeah, exactly.
04:36:31.000 And all the 11 kids that died or 12 kids that died, if you look at their names, they're all Arabs.
04:36:36.000 Yeah.
04:36:36.000 They're all Muslim Arabs.
04:36:37.000 Exactly.
04:36:37.000 And they've rejected Israeli passports.
04:36:40.000 Yep.
04:36:40.000 And in addition to that, when Netanyahu and who was it again?
04:36:45.000 Was it Galan?
04:36:46.000 Went to Israel.
04:36:48.000 They tried to go up there to the Golan Heights.
04:36:50.000 Yeah, they went to the Golan Heights for the funeral.
04:36:52.000 Smotrich it was.
04:36:53.000 They kicked them out.
04:36:55.000 That's the level of disdain they have for them.
04:36:57.000 Yeah.
04:36:57.000 Right?
04:36:58.000 The Golan Heights, guys, is...
04:37:01.000 It's Syria, but it's occupied Israel.
04:37:03.000 That's right.
04:37:04.000 Israel is what it is.
04:37:05.000 It's Israel occupied, but they're Syrians.
04:37:07.000 Yeah.
04:37:08.000 And so you had that incident.
04:37:11.000 Israel then...
04:37:12.000 Which they use that as justification to...
04:37:15.000 To do this next attack.
04:37:16.000 Now, Israel just wanted to do it because in reality, we've just demonstrated that it was actually Israel intercepted missile that caused it.
04:37:22.000 They then bombed...
04:37:25.000 Beirut.
04:37:25.000 Now Beirut is really important because Beirut is a multicultural, multi-religious, very Western country.
04:37:34.000 A city, sorry.
04:37:35.000 You'll be shocked.
04:37:36.000 A lot of Christians live there.
04:37:37.000 A lot of Christians live there.
04:37:38.000 There's like a huge nightlight.
04:37:40.000 It's not religious at all.
04:37:41.000 When I went there, I literally thought I'm going to a more Western society than even London.
04:37:48.000 If you guys look at Arab on Twitter, Sneeko's boy, he's in Lebanon right now, Beirut.
04:37:55.000 Very westernized country.
04:37:56.000 Very westernized, right?
04:37:58.000 And he's Christian, by the way.
04:37:59.000 Yeah, yeah.
04:37:59.000 Arab is Christian.
04:38:01.000 Actually, when I went to Lebanon, many of the people I was hung around with were all Christians.
04:38:05.000 It's a huge number.
04:38:07.000 And so it's Beirut.
04:38:10.000 It's a capital city.
04:38:11.000 So imagine New York being here.
04:38:13.000 And it's dense.
04:38:15.000 This population is quite dense in there.
04:38:17.000 So in reality, that's what they did.
04:38:19.000 And that was a red line for Hezbollah as well.
04:38:21.000 That you're not allowed to go and hit the actual, our capital city, right?
04:38:25.000 You can hit these smaller areas where there's not many people and we'll retaliate, but that's kind of like a red line.
04:38:31.000 It's like Hezbollah literally directly attacking Tel Aviv.
04:38:35.000 Mm-hmm.
04:38:36.000 Bombarding it to ensure that there's civilian deaths.
04:38:39.000 Yeah.
04:38:40.000 So this attack killed Haj Mohsin, who was Hezbollah's, you could basically say second guy.
04:38:47.000 So he was head of the military.
04:38:48.000 Some say he's like the sixth guy who's head of the Jihad Council.
04:38:51.000 But in reality, you could say either the second or sixth in line after the current Hezbollah leader, Hassan Nasrullah.
04:38:59.000 So they kill him.
04:39:01.000 That's bad enough.
04:39:03.000 Then the next day, they basically...
04:39:05.000 Oh no, the same day, wasn't it?
04:39:06.000 The same day.
04:39:07.000 It was the same day, yeah, yeah, because I was thinking, where was I? I was here.
04:39:10.000 The same day, they basically...
04:39:12.000 Bomb another capital of another sovereign country.
04:39:15.000 Yeah, this...
04:39:15.000 Tehran, Iran.
04:39:16.000 Wait, who's bombing the...
04:39:17.000 Israel.
04:39:18.000 Israel.
04:39:19.000 So this time, I don't think they bombed it because...
04:39:22.000 Bro, I'm telling you, bro, this is what I'm trying to say.
04:39:24.000 Wait, wait, before you say it, I agree.
04:39:29.000 Just...
04:39:30.000 Let him talk.
04:39:33.000 So what happened was the Hamas leader who's in charge of the negotiations, Ismail Hania, went to Iran.
04:39:46.000 Now the reason he went to Iran is because the new president was going to be inaugurated because the previous president died in a helicopter accident.
04:39:53.000 Yeah.
04:39:54.000 Accident.
04:39:55.000 And so...
04:39:57.000 Yo, Besad, fuck that helicopter up, man.
04:39:59.000 I'm telling you, bro.
04:40:00.000 Bro, ever since Kobe Bryant died in that helicopter, nigga?
04:40:03.000 Ah, fuck helicopters.
04:40:04.000 I am not getting on one, bro.
04:40:05.000 Fuck helicopters, man.
04:40:06.000 I'm good.
04:40:07.000 So, Hane is there.
04:40:08.000 Can we pull a picture of him up real quick?
04:40:10.000 It's from Hane.
04:40:11.000 Yeah, like, he's a guy, like, look, he has worked hard for the resistance.
04:40:16.000 His children have been sacrificed and killed.
04:40:18.000 Oh, yeah.
04:40:18.000 They killed their grandkids.
04:40:19.000 His grandchildren have been killed.
04:40:21.000 And what he did was he was there for the inauguration.
04:40:24.000 Now, there was two statements.
04:40:25.000 I think the second one is more likely.
04:40:26.000 The first one is that there was an aerial attack through a drone that hit him.
04:40:30.000 I think that's unlikely and it shows severe weaknesses by Iran.
04:40:34.000 What the other claim by the New York Times, even though I know the New York Times is like some legitimacy in terms of who controls it, but they claim that what happened was there was an explosive put in his room Months earlier that detonated at that specific time.
04:40:49.000 And this is the guy that was...
04:40:50.000 And the reason why this is relevant, guys, is because this dude was the head negotiator that Netanyahu and the Israeli government was negotiating with to get the hostages back.
04:40:58.000 He was the head of Hamas's political wing.
04:41:02.000 There's two different wings.
04:41:02.000 There's a political wing and then there's the military wing.
04:41:05.000 So that's who they assassinated on July 30th, the 31st.
04:41:10.000 So he's basically the head of Hamas, right?
04:41:12.000 And they assassinated him.
04:41:14.000 So just think about that.
04:41:16.000 Bomb Beirut Hezbollah leader.
04:41:19.000 They kill the Hamas leader.
04:41:21.000 And they do it in Iran.
04:41:23.000 Now that's all of the axes of resistance engaged.
04:41:27.000 So that means now they have to retaliate.
04:41:30.000 Now what's been happening since then is Iran's been saying we're going to retaliate.
04:41:33.000 It's going to be 24 hours.
04:41:35.000 And then they don't do it.
04:41:36.000 And then they say it's going to be 48 hours.
04:41:38.000 And then they don't do it.
04:41:40.000 And then they say we're going to do it by August the 9th.
04:41:43.000 And then they don't do it.
04:41:44.000 Then they say we're going to do it by August the 12th.
04:41:45.000 And they don't do it.
04:41:46.000 So my personal opinion on this is this is psychological warfare.
04:41:51.000 To make them think it's coming.
04:41:53.000 To make them and to cost them money.
04:41:55.000 Because apparently up until a couple of days ago...
04:42:00.000 The US had already spent $1 billion since this attack, thinking that Iran's about to attack.
04:42:08.000 So since July 30th?
04:42:10.000 Yeah.
04:42:11.000 Because they started mobilizing forces immediately after they killed Haneya.
04:42:13.000 Exactly.
04:42:14.000 So every single day that they're pretending or giving this psychological assumption that they're going to attack is costing the US and Israel a significant amount of money.
04:42:25.000 And it puts the fear into Israel.
04:42:27.000 It's coming.
04:42:27.000 Like, imagine someone's...
04:42:28.000 Like, you know, if someone punches you, it hurts, but it's over.
04:42:30.000 But if you know some, like, big, tonking guy is going to punch you, and he's literally telling you, I'm going to punch you, and he comes to you, and then he doesn't do it.
04:42:37.000 And then the next day, he comes to you.
04:42:38.000 That's worse than actually being punched.
04:42:39.000 You'd rather have, like, two licks straight away than one lick that may come at any time.
04:42:44.000 That's what I'm telling you.
04:42:45.000 You fight somebody head on, it's you coming.
04:42:47.000 Fighting for the inside, they don't see it coming.
04:42:48.000 That's worse.
04:42:49.000 Yeah.
04:42:50.000 That's true as well.
04:42:51.000 Interesting.
04:42:52.000 So, coming back to the point, so now that is going to happen.
04:42:57.000 So we saw like 30 missiles that went the other day, do you remember?
04:43:01.000 So Hezbollah did send missiles yesterday, right?
04:43:04.000 Is that confirmed now?
04:43:04.000 That was, yeah.
04:43:05.000 There was 30 missiles that were sent by Hezbollah.
04:43:07.000 And they hit?
04:43:09.000 So what's the disagreement is Hezbollah claimed that all of them hit.
04:43:13.000 Israel claimed that no, all of them did not hit.
04:43:15.000 We only allowed certain through that didn't hit any military bases.
04:43:20.000 So that's the two positions.
04:43:21.000 Okay.
04:43:21.000 Yeah.
04:43:22.000 But we know for a fact missiles were sent.
04:43:24.000 Oh, 100%.
04:43:24.000 So Hezbollah has...
04:43:25.000 We know for a fact that missiles were sent.
04:43:27.000 We know for a fact that missiles went through the Iron Dome.
04:43:30.000 And we know that for a fact that missiles went into Israel.
04:43:32.000 Wait, why would they allow missiles to go through the Iron Dome?
04:43:35.000 No, because they didn't allow it.
04:43:37.000 Sorry, did I say allow?
04:43:38.000 I meant it penetrated.
04:43:41.000 Yes, sorry, they didn't allow.
04:43:42.000 So in reality, what it shows is that the Iron Dome isn't as strong as the clay.
04:43:45.000 It's not invincible.
04:43:46.000 And keep in mind that they actually depend on us a lot to stock it with missiles.
04:43:51.000 So every time there's an attack, they have to launch missiles to intercept those missiles.
04:43:55.000 That's right.
04:43:56.000 Between Hezbollah, Iran, and then Yemen, the Houthis, they got hundreds of thousands of missiles.
04:44:04.000 That's right.
04:44:04.000 And it cost them a stupid amount of money to intercept them.
04:44:08.000 World War III. Well, when I was talking with Andrew Busamante, former CIA, I asked him, what do you think is going to happen here?
04:44:15.000 Because they had just assassinated Hanea when I had him on.
04:44:19.000 He predicts, according to the attack between all the Axis powers, towards Israel, is what he said.
04:44:25.000 He said, it's going to come.
04:44:27.000 He said, we're not going to know, but he said it's going to absolutely be a coordinated attack.
04:44:32.000 And he even said it, that it was very stupid for Israel to do that, to attack Hezbollah and Iran within 24 hours.
04:44:40.000 I think they wanted to stop him, though, between me and you.
04:44:42.000 And how do you kill the chief negotiator?
04:44:44.000 They wanted to stop him between me and you.
04:44:46.000 They wanted to stop him?
04:44:47.000 They wanted this to happen?
04:44:48.000 Israel, he's saying Israel wanted this to happen.
04:44:50.000 Because here's the thing with Netanyahu, I don't think he gives a fuck about the hostages.
04:44:53.000 The more and more I look at this, he doesn't care about a two-state solution, he doesn't care about the hostages.
04:44:58.000 If you cared about the hostages, why would you kill the guy that you're negotiating with to get the hostages?
04:45:04.000 Because you guys want to know who's in power now?
04:45:05.000 A guy named Yahya Senwar.
04:45:07.000 And that dude doesn't want to negotiate shit.
04:45:11.000 You know what I think?
04:45:12.000 You can Google him real quick.
04:45:12.000 You know what I think?
04:45:13.000 They really want to do?
04:45:14.000 Way harsher.
04:45:15.000 Bro, he wants...
04:45:16.000 You want to talk about extreme?
04:45:18.000 That guy's extreme.
04:45:19.000 So now you put someone in...
04:45:20.000 I don't think he is though.
04:45:21.000 You don't think so?
04:45:22.000 I think he's not as diplomatic as Ismail Haniyeh.
04:45:27.000 For sure.
04:45:28.000 He was a shunna in Yahoo.
04:45:29.000 But I do think that he would negotiate.
04:45:34.000 The reason why they're not negotiating right now is...
04:45:37.000 First of all, Israel keeps rejecting all offers, right?
04:45:42.000 Of course.
04:45:42.000 But...
04:45:43.000 The reason now is because why would you negotiate?
04:45:45.000 There's literally going to be a response happening now.
04:45:47.000 So that's the reason that's not happening.
04:45:48.000 But now I think, you know, because you mentioned the CIA guy, there's two possibilities.
04:45:52.000 If what your CIA guy says happens, if what he says happens, then it is going to be World War III because that's going to be such a monumental assault.
04:46:03.000 And then there will be a number of casualties.
04:46:07.000 That will lead to World War 3.
04:46:08.000 Because they will destroy Tel Aviv.
04:46:11.000 But I don't think that's going to happen.
04:46:13.000 I don't think they're going to go to World War 3.
04:46:18.000 So I think there will be a response.
04:46:20.000 I think it will be strong.
04:46:21.000 But I think it'll be enough that they doesn't go to World War 3.
04:46:24.000 Because I think what you're saying will definitely do it.
04:46:27.000 I'm saying if Iran responds on their own and then Hezbollah responds on their own separately and they do a bit of damage here and there, I think that will be enough for Israel to do something smaller and then them to respond to something smaller.
04:46:37.000 So hit military targets only?
04:46:38.000 Power grids?
04:46:38.000 Infrastructure?
04:46:39.000 What are we talking about?
04:46:39.000 Yeah, yeah.
04:46:40.000 So hit military targets.
04:46:43.000 Don't kill civilians, which they've never really done before.
04:46:46.000 And don't attack Tel Aviv.
04:46:49.000 So I think that's what's going to happen.
04:46:50.000 I think...
04:46:51.000 Israel is trying to invoke scripture to come to pass.
04:46:55.000 That's what I think.
04:46:57.000 What's the scripture?
04:46:59.000 In so many different ways, it's a world against them.
04:47:02.000 And their enemies are actually tied to scripture.
04:47:05.000 If you notice, their whole agenda is tied toward scripture.
04:47:07.000 All their enemies are in the scripture.
04:47:09.000 Yeah, but the problem with the scripture is, both Islamic scripture and Jewish scripture, it's meant to be, as far as I remember, Jewish scripture is everyone against them.
04:47:19.000 In Islamic scripture, it's meant to be Muslim and Christians against them.
04:47:24.000 And so in reality, I don't think we're in a position like that because if you look at America, which is largely Christian, it's full on Israel styles.
04:47:32.000 But remember, what scripture are you referring to?
04:47:34.000 Like Old Testament, New Testament?
04:47:36.000 New Testament.
04:47:37.000 Okay.
04:47:38.000 A little bit old.
04:47:39.000 Oh, you're talking about Christian scripture.
04:47:40.000 But hold on.
04:47:41.000 In the Bible, it talks about, for example, the world against Israel.
04:47:44.000 How's that going to happen?
04:47:45.000 Actually, look at social media.
04:47:47.000 After that whole thing that they did, I won't go back in time, but with the bombing and people dying, what happens to the world?
04:47:54.000 They all point fingers at Israel.
04:47:56.000 That never happened in history before ever.
04:47:58.000 Yeah, but the New Testament is Christians, and Christians, largely speaking, because evangelicals and Protestants are basically with Israel.
04:48:05.000 The people who are not with Israel are basically...
04:48:08.000 But hold on, you mentioned the world...
04:48:09.000 Catholics and Orthodox, right?
04:48:11.000 Catholics, Orthodox and atheists.
04:48:13.000 But you mentioned Christianity itself is going down.
04:48:15.000 So people that are with Israel is a small amount compared to the whole world itself.
04:48:19.000 So in the UK it is, but in the US you guys have got a very strong Christian population still.
04:48:22.000 Bro, it's weak, bro.
04:48:23.000 What's the percentage?
04:48:24.000 Well, he means as in, like, they at least identify as Christian.
04:48:29.000 They're just not religious in their week, yeah.
04:48:31.000 Because I could say I'm Christian all day, which...
04:48:33.000 Yeah, but he's saying, like, they don't even identify.
04:48:35.000 Like, at least people here will say, I'm a Christian.
04:48:38.000 You gotta cross right now.
04:48:39.000 Like, you're not religious, but you at least identify as Christian.
04:48:41.000 There, they're like, I'm agnostic!
04:48:42.000 No, no, here's the issue, though, right?
04:48:44.000 It's all the same, because I can say I'm Christian, and I go party tomorrow.
04:48:48.000 I don't think it's the same.
04:48:50.000 So if you say you're a Christian and you party tomorrow, you still believe in God, you're still a Christian?
04:48:54.000 No.
04:48:55.000 If person B says that they don't believe in God, that's a bit different.
04:49:00.000 Actually, it's worse if I pretend and I don't do what I say I do.
04:49:04.000 Because now I'm lying to God himself.
04:49:06.000 But you believe there's a God.
04:49:08.000 100%.
04:49:08.000 Yeah, that's the difference.
04:49:09.000 Well, I mean, I think what he's saying is that we have a stronger Christian presence in the United States than the United Kingdom.
04:49:14.000 I agree, I agree.
04:49:15.000 That's what he's saying.
04:49:16.000 But I'm just saying, in totality, them believing in Israel and it being state and all that stuff, it's true, but the vast majority of Christians, they just say they're Christian, but they're not really Christian.
04:49:26.000 No, no, because look, there was a poll, wasn't there?
04:49:28.000 And it asked every single religion and breakdown of religion, so within Christian sects, the support of Israel.
04:49:37.000 And even the recent poll after October the 7th, the vast majority of evangelicals were still in support of Israel.
04:49:45.000 And then you had...
04:49:46.000 So it was something like 70...
04:49:49.000 So obviously, Jewish people were first.
04:49:51.000 Then it was evangelicals.
04:49:53.000 Catholics were almost the same as Muslims.
04:49:54.000 That's how much they're not for Israel.
04:49:56.000 Question.
04:49:57.000 Can you give a...
04:49:58.000 Not really Christian, but Catholics.
04:50:01.000 Right.
04:50:06.000 Real quick, because obviously we...
04:50:10.000 Damn it, what was I going to say?
04:50:11.000 Oh, for the audience real quick, can you describe the difference between Orthodox Christians, Evangelical Christians, Catholics, Protestants, etc.?
04:50:19.000 Because I don't think people know...
04:50:21.000 Most Zionists are actually Evangelical Christians.
04:50:24.000 They're not Jews.
04:50:25.000 I want to make that very clear for you guys.
04:50:26.000 A lot of people say, oh, no Jews are Zionists.
04:50:28.000 That's absolutely not true whatsoever, never.
04:50:30.000 Most are actually Evangelical Christians.
04:50:33.000 So yeah, what's the difference?
04:50:34.000 It's like 30 to 1.
04:50:35.000 Oh, is that the ratio?
04:50:36.000 Yeah.
04:50:37.000 Damn.
04:50:38.000 It's pretty wide.
04:50:39.000 So back in the day, There was a Bible that was written, and everyone followed it.
04:50:44.000 However, people felt like certain Christians...
04:50:47.000 I want to say they were inspired differently by the Word, and it took it a certain way.
04:50:50.000 Religion debate coming this week, by the way.
04:50:52.000 So some believed certain Christians were more powerful than others.
04:50:55.000 Some became Protestant.
04:50:56.000 Some became, like, obviously, Latter-day Saints.
04:50:58.000 All these different denominations.
04:51:01.000 One is, they broke the church into many different factors, which is...
04:51:04.000 Obviously, the devil's work.
04:51:06.000 But, through those deviations, they believed that Scripture was, I want to say, more geared towards a certain agenda.
04:51:14.000 And they took Scripture and made it their own philosophy.
04:51:17.000 So, it doesn't mean it's right.
04:51:18.000 It doesn't mean that they made Scripture more important than other parts of it.
04:51:22.000 So...
04:51:23.000 Certain religious leaders interpreted scripture differently than others.
04:51:26.000 And they made it their staple as this is what we believe in through and through.
04:51:29.000 So it's still the Bible, but they make it a more paramount part of their belief.
04:51:34.000 So Catholics, they believe that the Virgin Mary and all this stuff is important.
04:51:39.000 In all honesty...
04:51:39.000 Saints and all this other stuff.
04:51:40.000 In all honesty, that's not important, but they make it a point to be important.
04:51:44.000 So that deviation is Catholics and vice versa for like Seventh Adventists and all these other, you know...
04:51:51.000 The big ones are what?
04:51:52.000 Roman Catholic, Orthodox Christians, Protestants, right?
04:51:55.000 You say those are the top three?
04:51:56.000 To have a witness as well.
04:51:58.000 There's a bunch, bro.
04:52:00.000 It's a lot, bro.
04:52:01.000 I can't even tell you all of them.
04:52:02.000 But the point is, they deviated from...
04:52:04.000 I mean, I think Catholics are the Christians.
04:52:06.000 You think so?
04:52:07.000 Yeah.
04:52:07.000 Why?
04:52:08.000 So if you look at the history of Catholicism, it's integrated into Christianity from very early on.
04:52:15.000 If you look at the Protestant church through Martin Luther and various others, it got propagated into UK through basically a Almost taking, reforming Christianity to the extent where it removes certain aspects of Christian tradition,
04:52:33.000 such as, as you mentioned, Virgin Mary, such as certain practices.
04:52:38.000 And it made Christianity a lot more devout of practices.
04:52:44.000 And my actual view is that that actually led to a lot of the liberalist reform throughout history.
04:52:51.000 So there's a really good book by It was by Gibbons who literally explains how liberalism came from Protestantism when they basically separated from the Catholic Church.
04:53:04.000 So I will say this.
04:53:05.000 Back then, it was a more stable thought.
04:53:09.000 Look at the Pope today.
04:53:10.000 He's saying gays, everybody should be accepted.
04:53:12.000 That's crazy, bro.
04:53:14.000 So I think nowadays...
04:53:15.000 Is it Protestants that don't believe in Popes?
04:53:17.000 That's right, yeah.
04:53:18.000 And then Orthodox Christians believe there's only one Pope.
04:53:22.000 If I'm not mistaken.
04:53:24.000 I have to double chat.
04:53:24.000 And then Catholics believe in many popes.
04:53:28.000 Bro, they believe in a lot of stuff, man.
04:53:29.000 Chat, am I correct there?
04:53:31.000 Protestants, no popes.
04:53:32.000 Orthodox Christians, one pope.
04:53:33.000 And then Catholics say, hey, there's many popes.
04:53:36.000 Chat, please correct me if I'm wrong.
04:53:37.000 I'm trying to learn more about religion.
04:53:39.000 I've been studying because I'm trying to have this debate.
04:53:40.000 I need to do more research.
04:53:43.000 But the point I make here is that, like, yes, Catholics themselves, I would say...
04:53:47.000 Our bad people, I just think what they believe in and what they believe God to be and what he accepts is crazy nowadays.
04:53:54.000 The Pope literally said a couple weeks ago saying like, oh yeah, except everyone, gays, trans.
04:54:00.000 That's crazy, bro.
04:54:01.000 Just so you know from what the Bible says.
04:54:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
04:54:04.000 Okay, Catholics are the only ones that believe in the Pope.
04:54:06.000 Okay, that's what you're saying.
04:54:07.000 But long story short, I'm just saying...
04:54:09.000 But that's just a Catholic Pope who's kind of diverted away from Catholicism because traditional Catholicism was...
04:54:15.000 Okay, Orthodox believe Jesus is the head of the church.
04:54:17.000 Catholics believe the Pope is the head of the church.
04:54:19.000 There you go.
04:54:19.000 Okay.
04:54:20.000 Anyhow, so...
04:54:22.000 Orthodox don't have a Pope.
04:54:23.000 Okay, that makes sense.
04:54:24.000 We're talking about like...
04:54:25.000 And that Orthodox basically has...
04:54:27.000 Wait, has multiple Popes to make it a council?
04:54:30.000 Bro, what the fuck?
04:54:31.000 I don't know much about Orthodox Christianity, but I know Catholicism and Protestantism.
04:54:37.000 Okay.
04:54:37.000 And that's mainly because in the UK, those were the separations.
04:54:40.000 So like when, in historically...
04:54:42.000 The Orthodox is like Eastern European thing, right?
04:54:44.000 Yeah, that's right.
04:54:44.000 Russia, Romania, Ukraine.
04:54:46.000 So like in the UK, what happened was we had the, it was a Catholic country first.
04:54:50.000 And then King Henry basically was like, mandem wants these wives.
04:54:55.000 Yo, fresher fist style.
04:54:57.000 Yo, actually, it's a sin that wants some bitches.
04:55:05.000 It's a sin to change the Bible for your own needs.
04:55:08.000 They did that over a bunch of other years to change the Bible for their own needs.
04:55:14.000 They're aligning themselves with the book to gain a certain result of them being the ones under pressure.
04:55:21.000 That's all I'm saying.
04:55:23.000 Well, what I will say, so going back to the Iran war or whatever, I have a source of mine, actually a truth teller, smart guy.
04:55:30.000 He's saying that Iran is planning an attack within the next 24 hours on not just Israeli, but U.S. bases in the Middle East.
04:55:38.000 Oh, wow.
04:55:39.000 We'll see what happens.
04:55:39.000 But they've been...
04:55:40.000 We're threatening this for a bit though, like you're saying.
04:55:42.000 I think they're doing it on purpose and I think it's a smart strategy, by the way.
04:55:45.000 Because there's a psychological warfare and financial cost that you're doing as long as they do do their taxes.
04:55:51.000 Because they're keeping those air carriers in...
04:55:54.000 Oh yeah, of course.
04:55:54.000 They even sent a couple of more, didn't they?
04:55:57.000 So...
04:55:59.000 So I think the attack is going to happen.
04:56:01.000 I know your CIA guy...
04:56:02.000 If what your CIA guy says happens, then definitely we're going to World War III. Like, there's no way Tel Aviv gets destroyed and there isn't a major retaliation.
04:56:12.000 Then it's definitely World War III. Maybe even Samson.
04:56:16.000 Everything's on the table when that happens.
04:56:17.000 But you know what's crazy?
04:56:18.000 So the Bible speaks about the fire coming from heaven to burn and destroy a third of the population.
04:56:25.000 You know what that fire is?
04:56:27.000 You believe it's nuclear warfare?
04:56:28.000 Nukes.
04:56:28.000 Has to be, bro.
04:56:30.000 What else could it be?
04:56:31.000 Isn't that crazy?
04:56:32.000 Yeah.
04:56:35.000 Are you on Rumble or no?
04:56:36.000 No, we're only on YouTube.
04:56:38.000 No, sorry, we're on YouTube and Rumble.
04:56:39.000 Do you want to go to Rumble only?
04:56:40.000 No, no, no.
04:56:41.000 You sure?
04:56:42.000 Continue.
04:56:43.000 I don't know shit.
04:56:45.000 I'm dumb, bro.
04:56:45.000 We're going to Rumble, bro.
04:56:46.000 No, I'm dumb.
04:56:46.000 I don't know shit.
04:56:47.000 You go ahead.
04:56:51.000 So, yeah, I think likely what's going to happen is they will retaliate.
04:56:55.000 You think the attack will come this month?
04:56:57.000 Yeah.
04:56:58.000 I think it's going to come this month soon.
04:56:59.000 Yeah, I think it's going to come this month, yeah.
04:57:00.000 Alright.
04:57:01.000 Nah, man, I guess, yeah, we've been going for a while.
04:57:04.000 It's 1 o'clock in the morning.
04:57:05.000 Shout out to all you guys for sticking with us.
04:57:06.000 Anything else you guys got before we close this thing out?
04:57:08.000 Two more hours!
04:57:09.000 Let's go!
04:57:09.000 Woo!
04:57:10.000 Let's go, Bills and Mo!
04:57:13.000 Nah, nigga, we staying for hours!
04:57:15.000 Yes, let's go chat!
04:57:16.000 Wait, what do you mean we?
04:57:17.000 Two more hours?
04:57:18.000 Wait, who's we?
04:57:18.000 Two more to go!
04:57:19.000 Oh, this is my brother right here.
04:57:20.000 Nigga, you cheat!
04:57:21.000 The jaw loading.
04:57:22.000 Wait, it's one dollar?
04:57:25.000 Myron, you don't got your card, Myron.
04:57:27.000 It's from Myron's money.
04:57:29.000 You don't got your card, Myron.
04:57:30.000 He do got his card.
04:57:31.000 That's why he donated it.
04:57:32.000 Oh, he got your card?
04:57:33.000 Yeah.
04:57:33.000 Wait, he's here?
04:57:34.000 Yeah, no.
04:57:35.000 No, I mean, he's donating from home, but I mean.
04:57:37.000 It's a $5 limit, bro.
04:57:39.000 This nigga is a bum bro.
04:57:40.000 Two more hours.
04:57:41.000 They're down.
04:57:41.000 What do you mean we?
04:57:43.000 Is that your brother?
04:57:46.000 So the jar loading is basically that's Islamic eschatology.
04:57:51.000 He's very religious, my brother.
04:57:53.000 So it's basically the idea that basically what's going to happen is the false messiah is going to come to basically misdirect people and that false messiah is the job.
04:58:01.000 Yes, but we believe that Wait, you guys believe that he's coming, like, when though?
04:58:09.000 Who?
04:58:10.000 Do you know when he's coming?
04:58:11.000 In the Islamic faith, he's asking.
04:58:12.000 Messiah or whatever?
04:58:13.000 Yeah, yeah.
04:58:13.000 So basically, within the Islamic faith, there are certain types of events that need to occur.
04:58:19.000 First.
04:58:20.000 For it to happen.
04:58:21.000 And many Muslims believe that many of those events have already occurred.
04:58:23.000 For example, the feminization of society.
04:58:26.000 The fact that there's tall buildings.
04:58:28.000 The fall of Constantinople.
04:58:31.000 There's many, many eschatological events that need to occur for it to happen, and the vast majority, if not all, have already occurred.
04:58:39.000 Do you believe that this is the last pope in history?
04:58:42.000 So, there's a Muslim scholar, but this is not my position, I'm just telling you the Islamic position.
04:58:45.000 So, there's a Muslim scholar called Imam Ghazali, and what Imam Ghazali said was that, and so he's a Well-known, well-respected scholar, right?
04:58:54.000 From orthodox Sunni Islam.
04:58:56.000 And what he said was that he believed, based on prediction, he said that there would not be no 15th Islamic century.
04:59:03.000 Sorry, the Islamic century wouldn't go past the 15th.
04:59:06.000 So 1500s.
04:59:07.000 So right now we're on 1432, I believe.
04:59:12.000 1446 it is.
04:59:13.000 So 54 years in the lunar cycle.
04:59:16.000 So this is just my opinion.
04:59:18.000 I think this is the last pope.
04:59:21.000 Do you know how the last pope died?
04:59:23.000 The one before him?
04:59:24.000 How?
04:59:25.000 He died randomly and thunderstruck the building when he died instantly.
04:59:33.000 Like, same time.
04:59:35.000 It's crazy.
04:59:36.000 Wow.
04:59:37.000 If that's not a sign, I'm like, bro, that's crazy.
04:59:39.000 But why do you think this is the last pope?
04:59:42.000 Well, he's the only pope that includes everyone to be under one religion.
04:59:48.000 Like fully like...
04:59:49.000 Prenialist.
04:59:50.000 Like anybody.
04:59:50.000 Like you could be...
04:59:51.000 Muslim.
04:59:52.000 Muslim.
04:59:52.000 You could be atheist.
04:59:53.000 You could be Hindu.
04:59:54.000 So it's Prenialism.
04:59:55.000 Just come in.
04:59:55.000 You could be gay.
04:59:57.000 It don't matter.
04:59:57.000 Prenialism.
04:59:58.000 Pretty much.
04:59:59.000 So he believes that you don't need to be Christian to be saved.
05:00:02.000 You could be any...
05:00:03.000 Any religion.
05:00:04.000 So it's Prenialism, right?
05:00:05.000 Which is scary because that...
05:00:07.000 Dude, that...
05:00:07.000 Why is it scary?
05:00:08.000 That just means that like there's no foundation for Catholics anymore.
05:00:14.000 Because remember, they preach like, you're going to hell if you don't believe in Jesus Christ.
05:00:17.000 Sorry, if you don't believe in God and the scripture.
05:00:20.000 He's just saying, fuck all that.
05:00:21.000 Just do what I say.
05:00:23.000 That's crazy, bro!
05:00:24.000 The Messiah?
05:00:25.000 No, the Pope.
05:00:26.000 Oh, okay.
05:00:26.000 The current Pope.
05:00:27.000 It's just basically a pregnant-less position.
05:00:29.000 Is that why you don't believe in Catholics?
05:00:33.000 Catholicism, I guess?
05:00:33.000 I think the best...
05:00:36.000 I want to say, base to go off of religion for God is non-denominational, which means you don't believe in any traditional lane, for example, any deviation.
05:00:46.000 Heretic.
05:00:47.000 Yeah.
05:00:48.000 You just believe in God, the Savior, Jesus Christ, and you serve Him versus a certain scripture that you follow mainly.
05:00:55.000 So my thing is, you believe in God...
05:00:57.000 Would that be basically Orthodox Christianity?
05:01:01.000 No.
05:01:01.000 It's heretical.
05:01:02.000 You're basically not following any kind of orthodox mainstream sect position within Christianity.
05:01:08.000 He's basically saying that you just need to follow certain main tenets within Christianity.
05:01:13.000 And that is enough to be...
05:01:15.000 Well, I'm saying follow the Bible and what it says, not what your pastor tells you.
05:01:19.000 What's the biggest sect of Christianity?
05:01:20.000 Is it orthodox?
05:01:21.000 Is it Catholic?
05:01:22.000 Is it Protestant?
05:01:23.000 In the UK. I mean, sorry, in the US or throughout the world?
05:01:25.000 I know US is Protestant.
05:01:26.000 Yeah, US is, yeah.
05:01:27.000 And so is UK. The whole of Western Europe is basically Protestant mainly, and then the rest of the world is mainly Catholic.
05:01:34.000 Catholic, yeah.
05:01:34.000 So Catholic is the biggest sect, you would say?
05:01:36.000 That's what I would say.
05:01:38.000 All right.
05:01:40.000 What do you got here?
05:01:41.000 Great show dance.
05:01:41.000 Yacht Party was lit.
05:01:42.000 VIP. Party was poppin'.
05:01:43.000 Fuck the haters and bookies.
05:01:44.000 I'm speaking facts, bro.
05:01:45.000 First stop smashing all the baddies.
05:01:46.000 Leave some for us.
05:01:47.000 Yeah, bro.
05:01:48.000 I mean, dudes are going to hate, bro.
05:01:50.000 Listen, listen, listen.
05:01:51.000 The yacht was for y'all niggas, man.
05:01:52.000 I didn't do shit on the yacht, bro.
05:01:53.000 Just giving it to me with you.
05:01:54.000 Not this one, at least.
05:01:55.000 But off the yacht.
05:01:57.000 Niggas, shut up, man!
05:01:58.000 Yo, talk to Mara, man!
05:02:00.000 Talk to Mara, man!
05:02:02.000 Fresh had people doing things to see.
05:02:04.000 Talk to Mara, man!
05:02:05.000 Mara was outside.
05:02:06.000 Yo, did you drink at all?
05:02:08.000 I had one and a half.
05:02:09.000 Okay, yeah, I didn't get drunk.
05:02:11.000 Yeah, I had one and a half.
05:02:12.000 That shit tastes a terrible amount.
05:02:14.000 I don't know how niggas drink, bro.
05:02:15.000 That shit trash, bro.
05:02:17.000 It's terrible, man.
05:02:18.000 Yeah, alcohol's terrible.
05:02:18.000 Yeah, every time I take a sip, I'm like, that's why I don't do this shit.
05:02:20.000 I take a shot and I'm like, damn, why am I doing this shit, bro?
05:02:22.000 Yeah, I had one and a half, too.
05:02:24.000 So I was like, no, fuck that.
05:02:25.000 I went to the gym today.
05:02:26.000 There you go.
05:02:26.000 I was like, fuck this shit.
05:02:28.000 Still can feel it.
05:02:29.000 Damn.
05:02:29.000 Yeah, man.
05:02:30.000 So, anyway.
05:02:31.000 What else?
05:02:33.000 Anything else?
05:02:34.000 Nope.
05:02:35.000 Alright, so guys, I hope you guys enjoyed today's show, man.
05:02:38.000 Shout out to Suleiman.
05:02:39.000 How much longer are you here in town?
05:02:42.000 I'm leaving in a couple of days, yeah.
05:02:44.000 Okay, awesome.
05:02:45.000 I think we might have a religion debate on Wednesday.
05:02:46.000 We should do some more of these, bro.
05:02:47.000 Yo, yo, I'm on the right.
05:02:48.000 I'm having a religion debate.
05:02:49.000 This is better than the girl show, I think.
05:02:53.000 Of course.
05:02:53.000 Of course.
05:02:53.000 Way better.
05:02:54.000 I might have Sam Shamoon and Jay Dyer versus Daniel Hetikic.
05:03:01.000 Sam's not Daniel Hetikic, right?
05:03:03.000 Is Sam in the studio or no?
05:03:04.000 Sam Shamoon, is he virtual?
05:03:06.000 I think most of it's going to be virtual.
05:03:08.000 You spoke to them or no?
05:03:09.000 I spoke to them on Twitter.
05:03:13.000 Because Suleiman, you don't debate religion, right?
05:03:15.000 Like, it's kind of a waste of time for you?
05:03:16.000 I don't like debating Christianity and Islam, and that's because I don't agree with most of their positions.
05:03:20.000 So, as an example, who have you got?
05:03:22.000 Daniel Hikikoto.
05:03:23.000 I'm cool with him.
05:03:23.000 Who's the other guy?
05:03:24.000 Sam Shimon.
05:03:25.000 No, no, no, Sam Shimon.
05:03:26.000 He's asking on the Muslim side.
05:03:28.000 Oh, okay.
05:03:28.000 Here, I'll tell you in a second.
05:03:30.000 Because the thing, like, um...
05:03:31.000 I mean...
05:03:33.000 I spoke to him on Skype before, but...
05:03:35.000 Shimon?
05:03:36.000 Yeah.
05:03:36.000 He's cool.
05:03:36.000 Okay.
05:03:37.000 Yeah, they've been asking me to bring him on forever.
05:03:39.000 They were saying he's the top guy for Christianity.
05:03:41.000 I didn't think he was that good, Sami Shimon.
05:03:45.000 Jake Brandt-Katella is going to be on the Muslim side.
05:03:48.000 So this is an example, like when you guys were saying, that guy hates me more than anyone because he considers I'm like a heretic.
05:03:56.000 What is a heretic?
05:03:58.000 So what they believe is that I reject Hadith.
05:04:02.000 You know hadith.
05:04:03.000 Of course, of course.
05:04:04.000 The Quran is the word of God and the hadiths come from scholars.
05:04:07.000 Hadiths come from the Prophet, peace be upon him.
05:04:09.000 But the thing is, why they cry about my position is because like I said, many of my writings actually go against certain extreme positions.
05:04:18.000 But also when it comes to the Quran, I consider the Quran to be the first and then hadiths to be secondary.
05:04:24.000 They get upset with me because I accept hadith, right?
05:04:28.000 I just don't accept the exact same hadith as them.
05:04:31.000 And for them, that's heretical.
05:04:33.000 They're like, oh my god, you have to accept the exact same hadith as us.
05:04:37.000 We had a good explanation on one.
05:04:40.000 The whole Aisha and the age.
05:04:42.000 Because the guy that you mentioned, that hadith, wasn't there a scholar that interpreted it incorrectly or something like that?
05:04:48.000 He had a weak memory.
05:04:49.000 Yeah, so that was one of my reasonings for why I didn't accept it.
05:04:53.000 But also, within the same collection in Buhari, the age is 18, according to other narrations.
05:05:00.000 It just doesn't say directly, right?
05:05:03.000 Because everyone says she's nine years old or some crap like that.
05:05:05.000 Yeah, that's one narration in Buhari and one narration in Muslim.
05:05:08.000 So for that reason, they attack me.
05:05:10.000 So my point is, when they cry that I don't go, like Muslims or whatever, what are you talking about?
05:05:14.000 I get attacked by nearly everyone because I never fall into any category.
05:05:18.000 I'll just tell you what my position is.
05:05:19.000 Yeah, you are very...
05:05:21.000 To yourself.
05:05:23.000 Well, I was going to say diverse.
05:05:25.000 Some things he's very right on, some things he's left on, some things he's in the middle on.
05:05:28.000 So it's like, when you're like that, you know, you're going to have enemies everywhere.
05:05:32.000 True.
05:05:32.000 Right?
05:05:33.000 I just give it to myself.
05:05:34.000 Yeah, versus us, like, I don't know.
05:05:36.000 Some people say I'm far right, or we're far right.
05:05:38.000 Some other people say we're right.
05:05:40.000 Wait, but...
05:05:41.000 I think you're right.
05:05:42.000 I think you...
05:05:43.000 After discussing today, I'm not sure.
05:05:44.000 No one knows what I am, though.
05:05:45.000 No, no, I would say, like, based on the conversation, I'd say you're quite a bit more towards the left.
05:05:50.000 I love that.
05:05:51.000 Yeah.
05:05:52.000 See, because people don't understand, right?
05:05:54.000 I have to be this way for other purposes outside the podcast.
05:05:57.000 Because if I'm not...
05:05:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:06:00.000 I have to be like...
05:06:00.000 It sort of circles, it deals with that like...
05:06:02.000 Yeah, I get it.
05:06:03.000 But anyway, I don't think there's like...
05:06:05.000 I'm more towards the left.
05:06:07.000 Yeah.
05:06:07.000 There's only...
05:06:07.000 There's certain issues that I'm more towards the right.
05:06:09.000 Like, for example, abortion and these...
05:06:10.000 But you know what it is?
05:06:11.000 For me, having come from like poverty...
05:06:14.000 And not poverty, but coming from a socially deprived area...
05:06:18.000 I know that it wasn't easy for me to get to where I am.
05:06:20.000 Like, I'm very successful now.
05:06:22.000 But when I look at the people around me, and I look at how poor they are, and how difficult it was for them to get out, how they weren't able to get out of the situation.
05:06:30.000 Some of them got into drug, drug dealing, some of them got into various other crimes.
05:06:34.000 And I think that kind of everyone made it like I did, and I don't think everyone could have.
05:06:37.000 And then for that reason, I do think that we need a society where we can help people out to basically give them that kind of help.
05:06:43.000 Because what happens is, you know when you're in a poor area, the schools are crap, right?
05:06:47.000 The teachers are not as good.
05:06:48.000 Because who wants to teach in a school where the kids are aggressive, the kids are undisciplined?
05:06:53.000 So everything in that area just basically sets you up for failure, right?
05:06:57.000 Now, what happens is, So for that reason, I do have this idea, I do believe in the system where you do, should help out people who are struggling.
05:07:06.000 It doesn't mean like, it's not communism, and it's not capitalism, but there is this kind of thing like...
05:07:10.000 National socialism?
05:07:11.000 I would say maybe more close to socialism.
05:07:13.000 National socialism.
05:07:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:07:15.000 Well, I don't know about national socialism.
05:07:17.000 It went through Germany before World War II. Yeah, yeah, a bit more close to socialism.
05:07:19.000 That's all I'll say.
05:07:20.000 It did work for Germany before.
05:07:22.000 We're on YouTube, so I can't go much further than that.
05:07:23.000 Thank you, sir.
05:07:24.000 But John Ninja's know what I'm talking about.
05:07:25.000 Yeah, it worked out.
05:07:26.000 For now and at least.
05:07:28.000 Okay, let's end the freaking show, man.
05:07:30.000 We should do more of these, though.
05:07:32.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.
05:07:33.000 For sure.
05:07:33.000 It's always good to have Suleiman on, get different points, et cetera.
05:07:36.000 There you go.
05:07:36.000 So you got someone.
05:07:38.000 So by Suleiman's accord, I am right, he's moderate, and then Fresh is left.
05:07:42.000 I'm left.
05:07:42.000 I'd say he's more moderate, yeah.
05:07:44.000 But it works, though.
05:07:45.000 It works.
05:07:46.000 For business, you don't want to be too...
05:07:48.000 Yeah, I heard you're great at networking.
05:07:50.000 Yeah, have to be.
05:07:51.000 Yeah.
05:07:52.000 Well, yeah, I mean, dude, I can't have these discussions with you because I'll get angry.
05:07:56.000 Yeah, yeah.
05:07:57.000 Because fresh things are a lot of liberals, so they'll say dumb shit.
05:08:00.000 I'll be like, Yeah, yeah.
05:08:03.000 You know what I mean?
05:08:04.000 And I can't hide the way I look at things.
05:08:06.000 Bro, I'm like, you believe that?
05:08:07.000 Me too, bro.
05:08:08.000 That's crazy.
05:08:09.000 I start talking about equality and shit.
05:08:10.000 I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
05:08:12.000 I start getting angry when I heard the word equal.
05:08:15.000 Whatever, man.
05:08:16.000 Okay.
05:08:16.000 Anyway.
05:08:17.000 We'll catch you, Ninjas, on Wednesday.
05:08:19.000 I'm going to try to host this religion debate for y'all.
05:08:22.000 I was thinking about going to Vegas this week, but I got to figure some things out with Jake and line up some interviews and everything else like that.
05:08:27.000 So I might go to Vegas next week, or it might be the end of this week.
05:08:29.000 We'll figure it out.
05:08:31.000 But someone's going to be in town, so fuck it.
05:08:32.000 I mean, we'll hang out with him and maybe we'll do a Twitter space after this.
05:08:36.000 Yeah, and we'll do some call for Council Club on Wednesday.
05:08:39.000 Yes, or tomorrow.
05:08:40.000 One of the two.
05:08:41.000 Yeah, or Thursday.
05:08:41.000 One of the two.
05:08:42.000 Well, we'll give you guys a Zoom call this week.
05:08:43.000 Guys, castclub.tv, man.
05:08:45.000 And also, guys, check out Suleiman on X. We're always having spaces and shit like that, so come on over, guys.
05:08:50.000 X is a place to be.
05:08:51.000 X is a place to be, man, especially when it comes to politics, man.
05:08:53.000 It actually beat all the other news things.
05:08:57.000 I believe it.
05:08:57.000 It's beating everybody.
05:08:58.000 I believe it.
05:08:59.000 So, hey, love you guys.
05:09:00.000 Like the video, man.
05:09:01.000 We'll catch you guys.
05:09:02.000 Peace.
05:09:02.000 Peace.
05:09:08.000 We're good to go.