Fresh & Fit - EMERGENCY BROADCAST: USSS Director Cheatle resigns & Police Testimony on Trump Assassination

00:00:00.000 Time killed 33 people.

00:00:01.000 Zodiac Killer is a pseudonym of an unidentified serial killer who operated in Northern California.

00:00:05.000 All these serial killers got...

00:00:38.000 Yeah, I mean, I told you guys she was incompetent from the beginning. 0.99

00:00:59.000 Thank you.

00:01:01.000 Yo.

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00:02:15.000 He said, ultimately, of course, he's the leader.

00:02:17.000 He's irresponsible.

00:02:18.000 But if you can see the difference, you're debating something that he's not even said.

00:02:21.000 Go ahead, Myron.

00:02:22.000 Clarify if I'm wrong.

00:02:23.000 Myron.

00:02:29.000 My bad.

00:02:30.000 My bad, Suleiman.

00:02:31.000 I'm just doing a little technical thing right now.

00:02:32.000 Just give me 30 seconds.

00:02:34.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:02:35.000 No worries.

00:02:35.000 Suleiman.

00:02:36.000 Go ahead, Confluence.

00:02:37.000 Yeah, so I understand your point and that's not specifically what I was asking.

00:02:42.000 I'm just taking a question at the presupposition that it was only one person acting and that these are standard operating procedures.

00:02:53.000 What do you mean one person acting?

00:02:57.000 A lone gunman.

00:02:59.000 No one said that.

00:03:00.000 No one said that.

00:03:04.000 So why are you debating an issue?

00:03:05.000 You can debate that issue, for sure.

00:03:06.000 Put it on the table.

00:03:07.000 There'll be many people who want to debate you on that, but that's not what he's saying.

00:03:10.000 This is the bit that I don't get.

00:03:12.000 Confluence is here to just argue, guys.

00:03:14.000 Just like, watch out.

00:03:14.000 Hopefully it doesn't crash.

00:03:15.000 But anyway.

00:03:17.000 So, what's your argument?

00:03:19.000 Because that's not his argument.

00:03:20.000 So, you're debating an issue he's not even made.

00:03:21.000 That's probably why he's getting annoyed.

00:03:23.000 Because you're not arguing the actual specific point he said.

00:03:26.000 So, Lone Gunman...

00:03:27.000 Like, you can hold the position that it wasn't a Lone Gunman, which is kind of the position I'm definitely going...

00:03:33.000 I'm more believing at the moment.

00:03:35.000 But at the same time, you can also believe...

00:03:38.000 That when it comes to Cheadle, this is definitely the Maida the Fall guy.

00:03:43.000 I believe that.

00:03:43.000 And you can also believe at the same time that she maybe didn't know the specifics in that day, unless she is directly involved in the attempted assassination.

00:03:52.000 And you could also believe that she doesn't know the specific details about the time and events since the FBI has taken over all the investigation.

00:04:01.000 Those things are not mutually exclusive.

00:04:04.000 Yes, agreed.

00:04:05.000 And to clarify, my point was not specific to her testimony yesterday, for which it's been well documented reasons for cul-de-sacs of truth or not being forthcoming with information.

00:04:17.000 To go against one of those points, you said information that she wouldn't have access to.

00:04:21.000 A lot of the questions are around things that she was directly told.

00:04:24.000 And I know Myron has said third-party rule.

00:04:26.000 We could go back to that.

00:04:27.000 I understand it.

00:04:28.000 But it still doesn't quell concerns of the people on the outside, right?

00:04:33.000 No one denied that.

00:04:35.000 Of course, the people still have questions because after yesterday's hearing, We've got questions.

00:04:40.000 And even Myron is saying, after tomorrow's hearing, people are still going to have questions because the FBI is not going to give any answers.

00:04:47.000 But continue.

00:04:48.000 So also, yes, my second point was not specific only to her testimony, for which we've discussed at length, and I understand the points I've shared.

00:04:56.000 What's up, Chad?

00:04:56.000 I'm in here.

00:04:57.000 Can you guys hear me?

00:04:57.000 I may have misunderstood something that he used in a hypothetical as things are looked at currently positioned as opposed to his whole personal contention.

00:05:06.000 And Myron, you don't even have to feel free to, or you don't even feel compelled to answer this if you don't wish.

00:05:11.000 It's just that in his discussion now and previous, I've heard no possibility for something more than a lone gunman.

00:05:18.000 And I was asking more about his personal position, not as a function of the testimony, which has been discussed.

00:05:23.000 Okay, so you weren't very clear on that?

00:05:24.000 Because actually, Myron immediately, when he came on the space the very first time, said that both, this was before, as soon as something happened, he said both are available.

00:05:32.000 I'm not going to put words in his mouth.

00:05:33.000 Let's go to Myron.

00:05:34.000 So yeah, what's your question again, Confluence?

00:05:36.000 What's your specific question again?

00:05:38.000 So just to be clear, because his contention isn't all of the things that we thought it was.

00:05:44.000 His contention is just that he believes that you believe that this was definitely just a lone gunman and there was nothing more nefarious at play.

00:05:51.000 And it could be that I misunderstood your expression as running the current scenarios as the information is shared publicly.

00:05:57.000 And if that's the position, I didn't mean to infer your personal state on that.

00:06:01.000 What I'm saying is, when it comes to this gunman thing, from the information that I have, and the information that has been put out, to me it looks like one gunman.

00:06:10.000 However, am I open to other theories of a second potential gunman?

00:06:14.000 Of course.

00:06:15.000 But right now, just from what we have, it looks like there's a solo gunman.

00:06:18.000 It was just a single gunman.

00:06:19.000 Obviously the case is developing rapidly.

00:06:21.000 We might find out other co-conspirators.

00:06:23.000 We don't know that yet because the FBI isn't even really like two to three weeks in.

00:06:27.000 Great, and then, oh yeah, continue.

00:06:29.000 No, that's it.

00:06:30.000 On a communication strategy point, if there's this overwhelming groundswell, like we had after JFK... And Confluence, just on that, because let's not skip, right?

00:06:41.000 So, in terms of it being more than one Goodman, what's your position that it definitely was to more than one Goodman, or what's your position?

00:06:49.000 Not necessarily, but I think with weighing all of the potentials and the likelihoods, I think we can't disguise that potential.

00:06:58.000 So one second, let's take this one at a time.

00:07:01.000 So you're in agreement because basically, even my position is that, look, what we do know that there was possibly 8 to 10 shots fired.

00:07:10.000 We know that only one of those shots was fired by the Secret Service.

00:07:15.000 Means the other shots were fired by...

00:07:19.000 Whomever one considers the adversary or the...

00:07:21.000 There was one miss also, Suli.

00:07:23.000 One miss by a local CS team of the two CS teams and then there was two Secret Service CS teams, one of which had a direct hit through the trees.

00:07:32.000 Bongino calls it a one-in-a-million shot.

00:07:34.000 Okay, so I haven't heard about the second shot.

00:07:37.000 Okay, let's check that.

00:07:38.000 The second bullet was also.

00:07:39.000 So it means there's at least seven...

00:07:41.000 CNN reported.

00:07:42.000 Okay, that's fine.

00:07:44.000 The sixth, because in the hearing, I believe they only said it was only one.

00:07:47.000 So, okay, this is the thingy.

00:07:48.000 In yesterday's hearing, as well as a couple of the places, they only said that there was only one shot fired from this side.

00:07:54.000 Okay, that's fine.

00:07:55.000 Means there's possibly seven to eight shots that have been fired from either the lone goodman or a second goodman.

00:08:01.000 Now, we can't know, and this is what we've, I mean, this is what Myron's in.

00:08:04.000 This is my position as well, but Myron can clarify if it's not his position.

00:08:07.000 So, Yeah, I'm going to explain this to you guys here in a second.

00:08:09.000 But we don't know if all them shots came from just Thomas Crooks because the problem is we've got no information about the types of bullets that were fired.

00:08:16.000 We don't know the angles.

00:08:17.000 We don't know where they came from.

00:08:18.000 We don't know how they were hit.

00:08:19.000 What we do know is after three or four, around about three or four bullets, that's when Donald Trump ducks roughly.

00:08:27.000 So again, like, so for me, it's like, it looks, we just can't discard either possibility.

00:08:34.000 But Myron, let me go to you.

00:08:35.000 What's your thoughts on that?

00:08:37.000 Yeah, so my thoughts on that are, you know, for intimate details as far as like the bullets, trajectory, line of sight, etc.

00:08:44.000 That's all going to be with the FBI. It's all going to be with the FBI. Secret Service isn't going to have any of that, which is, again, why Cheadle was so reluctant to answer questions when it came to that stuff.

00:08:54.000 Anything that was like involved with the criminal investigation, she didn't really have information on because she's not privy to it.

00:09:01.000 So Myron, you have an outside pressure of citizen investigations, and not to say that, of course, they're privy to the same access, but available intel and all sorts of cagey, anon researchers can get to some interesting information.

00:09:16.000 And with this, the court of public opinion building so quickly and with no crime more interested by the greater earth and human history.

00:09:26.000 This is something that needs to be competed with from a communication strategy standpoint.

00:09:31.000 And the fact that every move has been so opaque, and you gave great reasons and spoke to the testimony yesterday, there's still more that can be done that hasn't been done, that this is a catastrophic failure.

00:09:42.000 Just as the one in decades failure that you mentioned yesterday, this is a one in decades communication failure on the back of that.

00:09:49.000 And that compounded with the failures and the person that happened to be in the place to take advantage, Point to something or many questions that need to be answered.

00:09:58.000 And the fact that they aren't quelling this in any of their outward presentations, even a very limited press conference, where they get to see a face, they get to talk to a person, questions can be fielded.

00:10:09.000 Sorry, that's in an investigation.

00:10:11.000 Oh, this?

00:10:11.000 Sure, we can share that with you.

00:10:13.000 None of that's happened.

00:10:15.000 So what's your point?

00:10:15.000 Is your point that basically because they're not giving this information to the public, more people are going to...

00:10:22.000 The conspiracies or the speculation or even the invest...

00:10:27.000 The citizen investigation is just going to run rampant.

00:10:31.000 Is that your argument?

00:10:32.000 And that yes, when you have this degree of...

00:10:34.000 Yeah, no one disagrees with that again.

00:10:35.000 Maren, go ahead. 1.00

00:10:36.000 Let Maren answer because I... Go ahead, Maren.

00:10:39.000 Bro, like...

00:10:40.000 Oh, man.

00:10:41.000 Go ahead.

00:10:42.000 Just finish your statement and then I'll...

00:10:44.000 Let me ask you a question, right?

00:10:46.000 Because I think I just, like, I want to make this interesting.

00:10:49.000 So, in terms of, you've explained, like, in terms of the possibility of being one or two goodmen, I think the greater question from this is, for me, irrespective of whether there's one goodman or two goodmen, is whether there was, this was one guy who lost his mind and did what he did,

00:11:07.000 or whether there was something more nefarious at play.

00:11:09.000 Now, one of the reports that came out was that Allegedly, he had three encrypted overseas bank accounts, Maren.

00:11:17.000 Now, the question about that is, A, who would have found that out within the investigation process?

00:11:23.000 And B, why was that leaked?

00:11:26.000 Because, and I'll explain to you the reason why I'm asking that question.

00:11:29.000 It's all FBI. That's going to be FBI. They probably did a grand jury subpoena, found his bank accounts.

00:11:35.000 And a grand jury subpoena, guys, by the way, is how you...

00:11:38.000 It's the best way to get bank accounts because when you do a grand jury subpoena, the bank doesn't have to notify the person that's holding the account that the government did a subpoena on your stuff.

00:11:47.000 So that's the best way to get financial records.

00:11:50.000 So that's how they were probably able to find that.

00:11:55.000 And just in addition to that...

00:12:01.000 It was leaked, right?

00:12:02.000 So you're saying that was the FBI who leaked it?

00:12:04.000 And then the second question is...

00:12:06.000 I mean, my theory is this, that if this was someone like China, if his overseas account was like China, Russia, Iran, this would have been all over the news.

00:12:16.000 The fact that it's not all over the news, again, question marks which foreign nation he had these bank accounts.

00:12:21.000 And if they did find it, they'd make it classified immediately.

00:12:24.000 They wouldn't even...

00:12:24.000 If they found a link between him and foreign intelligence or an adversarial country, I don't know if they would make that public right now.

00:12:32.000 They would probably classify it immediately and make that, you know, not something out for the public.

00:12:40.000 Confluence, any of the questions?

00:12:41.000 And then I want to go to Lindsay.

00:12:43.000 No, not at the moment.

00:12:45.000 Let's go to Lindsay.

00:12:46.000 Go ahead, Lindsay. 1.00

00:12:48.000 That Confluence guy is a fucking idiot. 1.00

00:12:50.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:12:51.000 So annoying. 0.99

00:12:52.000 It was just interesting hearing that there was somebody...

00:12:58.000 Are you breaking up, Lindsay?

00:12:59.000 I can't see...

00:13:00.000 I can't hear what she's saying.

00:13:03.000 Yeah, she's breaking up. 1.00

00:13:03.000 Lindsay, you're breaking up significantly. 1.00

00:13:04.000 Yeah, I can see y'all.

00:13:06.000 Yeah, you're breaking up.

00:13:07.000 Okay.

00:13:08.000 Okay.

00:13:10.000 Lindsay, I'm just going to drop you down and bring you back up if you can sort your headset out because it's breaking up in a significant manner. 0.69

00:13:16.000 I'm just going to do that.

00:13:20.000 There we go.

00:13:22.000 Right, so...

00:13:23.000 We're going to be wrapping up soon, but just before we do, Myron, from your perspective then, so the FBI has taken over this investigation, does that mean that we're never going to find out any information, not only wherever they decide to trickle down to us?

00:13:40.000 Yeah, they're not going to, yeah.

00:13:42.000 Until they get like, either they conclude that there was no other conspirators or they have someone else in custody, they're probably not going to give that much information.

00:13:48.000 The only time FBI shares a good amount of information is when they need the public's help to find somebody.

00:13:53.000 That's typically when they release the most information.

00:14:00.000 Lev, any last comments?

00:14:02.000 Because we're about to wrap up.

00:14:06.000 Okay, Lindsay, jump in. 0.97

00:14:07.000 Lev, any last comments?

00:14:11.000 I've been having such crazy difficulty.

00:14:18.000 I've been having such crazy difficulty.

00:14:20.000 I'm gonna break this down for you guys here in a second.

00:14:26.000 You hear me?

00:14:27.000 Yeah, we can hear you.

00:14:28.000 Okay.

00:14:29.000 I don't know why, but I've been getting dropped.

00:14:31.000 Today, the technical issues have been crazy.

00:14:33.000 Listen, at the end of the day, it is what it is.

00:14:37.000 We're going to have to wait and we're going to have to get more information.

00:14:39.000 I think the one thing that we are finding and realizing is that we're not going to get it from the Secret Service.

00:14:47.000 Hopefully, we'll see what happens with the FBI hearings.

00:14:50.000 I'm very, you know, excited to come to your space tonight, Sully, at 7 o'clock.

00:14:54.000 I'm sure there's going to be a lot of fireworks and a lot of crazy conspiracy theories.

00:14:58.000 So, anybody that wants to have some fun but not get any real information, come tonight at 7 o'clock.

00:15:04.000 Oh my God, lad, don't say that.

00:15:06.000 It's the real information.

00:15:07.000 Don't be the mainstream media propaganda piece.

00:15:10.000 Confluence, attack him.

00:15:12.000 I know, Lev.

00:15:13.000 Come on.

00:15:13.000 We know the line you're here to hold, and just be thankful you always get the seat from which to hold it.

00:15:19.000 It'll be interesting to see your takes on things in there, and it's just not adding up.

00:15:24.000 And in general, Myron, if I misunderstood your theorized position from current available info, as opposed to a position that you hold, Closer to your chest or your personal opinion.

00:15:36.000 I'd love you to come to Suli's space tonight There will be an interesting discussion and you guys all rock and thank you for bringing the clarity Suli I don't think you always had me pegged but and also one last point and hopefully we can discuss this later It's hard to say who the final Parties would be but it's pretty easy to see that there's something more to be looked into here.

00:15:57.000 So let's see.

00:15:58.000 Let's see Myron any last thoughts?

00:16:01.000 No, man.

00:16:03.000 I'm actually live on YouTube and Rumble right now if you guys want to come check me out.

00:16:06.000 I'm going to be reacting right now to the testimony.

00:16:09.000 Check me out on FedReacts.

00:16:10.000 I'm live right now on YouTube and on Rumble.

00:16:12.000 That's on Fresh and Fish channel, right?

00:16:13.000 Yeah, Fresh and Fish channel on Rumble, FedReacts on YouTube.

00:16:15.000 I'm live right now.

00:16:16.000 I'm going to be reacting to the congressional hearings right now.

00:16:19.000 They got the Butler police right now on.

00:16:23.000 But no, Sully, thank you for having me on.

00:16:24.000 I'm always happy to come.

00:16:25.000 Are you coming tonight, Myron?

00:16:27.000 Are you going to be on at 7?

00:16:28.000 I want to hear some of your conspiracy theories when you can let go.

00:16:30.000 I mean, if I'm awake, yeah.

00:16:32.000 Yeah, I still have a sleplet.

00:16:34.000 So, but yeah, definitely will if I'm awake.

00:16:36.000 But no, man, thank you for having me on.

00:16:37.000 It's always great talking to you guys.

00:16:39.000 Appreciate coming on, Maren.

00:16:40.000 As always, providing us with the detailed knowledge and information based on your background.

00:16:44.000 Appreciate you guys joining in.

00:16:46.000 Appreciate you guys listening.

00:16:47.000 And for sure, we will see you tonight, 7pm.

00:16:50.000 Awesome.

00:16:51.000 Later, guys.

00:16:53.000 Alright, so chat, real quick.

00:16:55.000 Right now, as you guys can see here, we got the congressional hearings going on, right, with the assassination.

00:16:59.000 Let's go ahead and go back a bit and rewind onto what I was talking about.

00:17:05.000 Bring you guys to the speed of what the hell is going on.

00:17:07.000 I apologize for the delay.

00:17:08.000 I was in a Twitter space.

00:17:08.000 We had 6,000 plus people in there.

00:17:10.000 So, I'm going to unmute this and we're going to react to it here in a second, but let me give you guys the stuff.

00:17:13.000 Give me ones in the chat if you guys can hear me good, and we'll break everything down.

00:17:17.000 I just want to make sure that the audio is good right now.

00:17:21.000 Give me ones if we're good. 0.99

00:17:25.000 Oh, what the fuck? 1.00

00:17:29.000 Oh, no. 1.00

00:17:31.000 Hold on.

00:17:34.000 Once?

00:17:35.000 Alright, sweet, sweet.

00:17:36.000 Sorry.

00:17:37.000 Hold on, guys.

00:17:37.000 I'm just fixing some technical stuff here, man.

00:17:40.000 Okay, so we got this here.

00:17:42.000 Boom.

00:17:43.000 Alright.

00:17:43.000 So, let's go over this Kim Cheadle thing real fast.

00:17:47.000 Alright?

00:17:48.000 And I literally tweeted about this.

00:17:49.000 Give me one sec.

00:17:52.000 Doing this show on the fly, guys.

00:17:54.000 Literally just still half asleep and the grind doesn't end though.

00:17:57.000 We're live on all the platforms.

00:18:00.000 Alright.

00:18:01.000 Okay.

00:18:03.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:18:03.000 I got the video muted, guys, by the way.

00:18:05.000 That's why you guys can't hear the video.

00:18:06.000 I'm going to be talking over it real quick.

00:18:08.000 So, before I do that, let me go ahead and pull up my tweet real fast.

00:18:15.000 Give me one sec.

00:18:16.000 Because we're going to go ahead and look at it.

00:18:23.000 Right.

00:18:23.000 Twitter.

00:18:24.000 Boom.

00:18:25.000 Alright.

00:18:27.000 Show you guys my little tweet because this explains it perfectly.

00:18:30.000 I tweeted this earlier today.

00:18:36.000 Give me one sec, guys.

00:18:38.000 I have it here somewhere.

00:18:39.000 Okay.

00:18:39.000 Here we go.

00:18:43.000 It was a waste of time to bring United States Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheadle in for questioning, though it was entertaining. 0.94

00:18:47.000 Let's be honest here.

00:18:48.000 This was a clip-forming hearing to punish someone for the security failure on July 13, 2024.

00:18:55.000 Here's why it was a waste of time. 0.70

00:18:57.000 Number one, she's incompetent. 1.00

00:18:58.000 Number two, they asked questions about the criminal case.

00:19:00.000 The Federal Bureau of Investigation, FBI, has run the criminal investigation.

00:19:03.000 She's not privy to all the facts, nor does the FBI have to furnish it to her.

00:19:08.000 Nashville Castle Club.

00:19:09.000 Shout out to you my friend.

00:19:12.000 I'll give you a double down to Marco for that one bro.

00:19:17.000 Join the Council Club, man.

00:19:18.000 Join the Council Club, man.

00:19:19.000 I'm grinding over here for y'all because we love you guys.

00:19:21.000 Get in the Council Club, man, if you really want to support.

00:19:23.000 So thank you so much, brother.

00:19:26.000 Third, they asked questions about what happened on the ground on July 13, 2024.

00:19:29.000 She is the United States Secret Service director.

00:19:31.000 Directors are too far up in the chain to know or understand what's going on operationally.

00:19:35.000 The head of the Trump's detail is the only one that will know everything on that day and probably cleared the operation plan, which is key.

00:19:41.000 Four, they ask internal questions about firings within the U.S. Secret Service.

00:19:44.000 The Department of Homeland Security, DHS, OIG, Office of Inspector General, and maybe the United States Office of Professional Responsibility are running the internal investigation and OIG doesn't have to answer to Cheadle.

00:19:54.000 This hearing was the equivalent to you going to Chipotle and the cash register guy punches you and then you blame the Chipotle president and bring him in for questioning.

00:20:01.000 Though he's the head of Chipotle and it looks good and entertaining to publicly hold him accountable, he won't really know or have the answers for that employee punching you.

00:20:10.000 If you are actually serious about getting to the bottom of this, don't waste your time with Cheadle.

00:20:13.000 This is who you subpoena.

00:20:15.000 FBI Special Agent Charge Kevin P. Rojack for the criminal investigation for the United States Secret Service failure, the head of Trump's security detail, whoever signed off on the operation plan, and then for the internal investigation, DHS Inspector General Joseph Kofari or United States OPR Director David M. Smith,

00:20:31.000 or preferably both. 0.99

00:20:34.000 And I was explaining that in the chat, and that's why I was getting this stupid fucking pushback from this guy that doesn't understand how the government works. 0.99

00:20:41.000 But anyway, I say all that. 0.99

00:20:43.000 Now let's get into the congressional hearing.

00:20:45.000 You see here that there's a, this is the colonel for the police department where this all went down.

00:20:50.000 Let's go ahead and put the volume on.

00:20:53.000 Witnesses, at any point, we're going to, Probably go at least another hour here.

00:20:58.000 If you need to take a break, just let me know and just give me the high sign or a thumbs up.

00:21:03.000 Y'all are okay right now, are you?

00:21:06.000 Yeah, we can take a break.

00:21:08.000 Take a break.

00:21:09.000 All right, we'll do five minutes and five minutes only.

00:21:12.000 The restroom's right down the hallway to your right.

00:21:16.000 Adjourned.

00:21:17.000 All right, I'm going to get a protein shake real quick.

00:21:19.000 Give me one second, guys.

00:21:20.000 And I'm going to come back and explain some stuff.

00:21:21.000 But we'll rewind the testimony.

00:21:41.000 Alright, let's rewind some of the testimony.

00:21:50.000 Let's rewind it.

00:21:54.000 Join me in observing a moment of silence.

00:21:56.000 That was not the case here.

00:21:58.000 ...violence in all its forms.

00:22:00.000 There simply is no place for it in our democracy.

00:22:04.000 The attempted assassination is in Pennsylvania.

00:22:08.000 Mr.

00:22:09.000 Kelly is permitted to sit on the dais and ask questions to the witnesses.

00:22:14.000 Serves as the president, national fraternal order of police.

00:22:18.000 In this role, Mr.

00:22:19.000 Yoles leads the order, and it's more than 367,000 law enforcement members and representing police officers and the profession.

00:22:27.000 Prior to taking his current role, Mr.

00:22:30.000 Yoles served an impressive 36 years as an active law enforcement officer.

00:22:36.000 I thank the witnesses for being here today, and I now recognize Colonel Parris.

00:22:40.000 Okay, so he brought his union rep, guys.

00:22:42.000 Obviously, when you're put under oath like that, you're going to bring your union rep.

00:22:46.000 ...minutes to summarize his opening statement.

00:22:49.000 Chairman Green, Ranking Member Thompson, Homeland Security Committee members.

00:22:54.000 Good morning.

00:22:56.000 I am Colonel Christopher Parris, Commissioner of the Pennsylvania State Police.

00:23:00.000 I would like to take this opportunity to offer our condolences on the passing of Congresswoman Lee.

00:23:06.000 I would also like to take this opportunity to express our condolences to the Comparator family and offer our continued prayers to Mr.

00:23:14.000 Dutch, Mr.

00:23:15.000 Copenhaver, as well as former President Trump as they continue to recover.

00:23:20.000 I'm humbled to be here today and testify about a tragic incident which has deeply impacted the Butler community, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, and our nation.

00:23:29.000 I would like to dedicate my testimony here today to the approximately 6,400 women and men, civilian and enlisted of the PSB, who work tirelessly for Pennsylvania, and it is my honor to lead them.

00:23:38.000 I'd like to offer a perspective that this is very much an ongoing, complex, and dynamic investigation.

00:23:45.000 And each day, as we arrive at day 10 today, I learn multiple new facts as we uncover new information as the investigation progresses.

00:23:54.000 I'd like to offer a point of clarification affirmatively about PSP's role.

00:23:59.000 Okay, so he's going to state what the state police's role was in that situation.

00:24:03.000 Prior to the shooting, our role was to support the Secret Service with personnel and assets that they requested.

00:24:09.000 Our operation plan completed to fulfill this responsibility consisted of 32 members, and we had two main responsibilities.

00:24:17.000 A motorcade operation for the transportation with the Secret Service.

00:24:20.000 So they have their own operation plan that they did?

00:24:22.000 President Trump, as well as manning and staffing security posts inside the secure area of the Butler County Farm show.

00:24:31.000 Additionally, we provided two marked cars with uniformed troopers outside of the secure perimeter to provide roving duties.

00:24:37.000 As the name implies, responding to incidents that may occur as a large gathering of people were moving to the- So they're just patrolling, going back and forth?

00:24:45.000 After the shooting, very early after the shooting, I had a conversation with the FBI, wherein the FBI is the responsible investigating agency for the attempted assassination of a former president under federal law.

00:24:57.000 The same actions that led to that also led to the homicide of one Pennsylvanian and the attempted homicide of two additional, as well as The use of force by the Secret Service countersniper to neutralize the threat of Mr.

00:25:11.000 Crooks, thus necessitating an officer-involved shooting investigation.

00:25:14.000 So the PSP currently is conducting a criminal investigation parallel to and in concert with the FBI to identify any and all parties criminally culpable under Pennsylvania state law.

00:25:26.000 For the homicide.

00:25:27.000 For the homicide.

00:25:28.000 I told you guys.

00:25:29.000 I told y'all!

00:25:30.000 As I said, we're additionally conducting an investigation into the U.S. Secret Service counter-sniper who neutralized the threat posed by Crooks after he opened fire.

00:25:38.000 I've been recently briefed about...

00:25:40.000 So anytime there's an officer involved shooting, guys, they have to investigate it and make sure that he acted within reason and it was a clean shoe.

00:25:47.000 So I literally called this, y'all.

00:25:48.000 I didn't watch this testimony, guys.

00:25:50.000 They're doing the murder investigation on the state side.

00:25:53.000 And they're also doing, and the injuries, and they're also doing the, what's it called, the investigation into the officer that was the Secret Service agent that did the shooting.

00:26:04.000 It's just, it's protocol.

00:26:05.000 They have to do it anytime there's an officer-involved shooting.

00:26:07.000 The Department of Homeland Security's commissioned after-action report.

00:26:11.000 I can tell you that the Pennsylvania State Police will fully cooperate with that investigation, and it's my hope that I can answer some questions here today without sacrificing that ongoing investigation.

00:26:22.000 And prove to be of value to the committee.

00:26:24.000 Thank you very much.

00:26:26.000 All right.

00:26:26.000 Thank you, Colonel Paris.

00:26:27.000 I now recognize Mr.

00:26:29.000 Yose for five minutes to summarize his opening statement.

00:26:31.000 Good morning, Chairman Green, Representative Thompson, and distinguished members of the House Committee on Homeland Security.

00:26:35.000 My name is Patrick Yose, and I'm the national president of the Fraternal Auto Police, the nation's oldest and largest law enforcement labor organization.

00:26:41.000 All right, so he's there to represent him, his union rep.

00:26:43.000 When you're a uniform, guys, you can go ahead and get a union rep to come with you to stuff like this, because obviously you're under oath.

00:26:50.000 You don't want to jam yourself up.

00:26:51.000 And you've been subpoenaed, so you have to go.

00:26:54.000 ...to recognize a long-term member of Congress...

00:26:56.000 So this is effectively like his lawyer, almost.

00:26:59.000 ...and a member of this committee.

00:27:00.000 ...the witnesses alike, and pressing for hard answers.

00:27:04.000 She was a prolific legislator who took pride in writing her own legislation and improving the bills of her colleagues through amendments. 0.79

00:27:14.000 Congresswoman Jackson Lee fought for resources, first responders, help for the... 0.99

00:27:18.000 I just want to make sure I say this.

00:27:21.000 You feel comfortable at any time to say, I'm sorry, this could compromise the investigation.

00:27:26.000 These guys get this all the time.

00:27:27.000 This is classified information.

00:27:28.000 They're accustomed to that.

00:27:30.000 So just, you know, they're going to be cool with that, I assure you.

00:27:33.000 Members will be recognized by order of seniority when we come back from votes, but we will take a recess and return.

00:27:40.000 Secret Service use any drones for surveillance that day.

00:27:44.000 Yield, I now recognize a ranking member for his five minutes of questioning.

00:27:46.000 Thank you very much.

00:27:47.000 Now we're getting into the questioning.

00:27:48.000 Here we go.

00:27:50.000 Commissioner Parrish, you talked about your tenure.

00:27:53.000 I got you guys. 0.99

00:27:54.000 I just skipped through the bullshit, man. 1.00

00:27:56.000 Let's go. 1.00

00:27:56.000 With the Pennsylvania State Police. 1.00

00:27:59.000 Have you worked other events where a presidential candidate or the president has come to Pennsylvania?

00:28:08.000 Yes, I have, sir.

00:28:09.000 So this would not have been an unusual occurrence to participate?

00:28:13.000 I ran the numbers.

00:28:14.000 We typically do about 20 missions a year, the low 20s a year, and a regular year.

00:28:18.000 We're already in the low 20s this year being an election year.

00:28:20.000 So our commanders in the field who interface with the Secret Service to plan and provide support are on a routine basis.

00:28:26.000 I wouldn't say an everyday occurrence, but a fairly routine basis.

00:28:28.000 Okay.

00:28:28.000 So can you walk us through the Pennsylvania State Police's...

00:28:32.000 So Trump's team talks to PSP, Pennsylvania State Police, every time they come into Pennsylvania.

00:28:38.000 ...action.

00:28:40.000 Pennsylvania's an important state, guys, so of course they go there often.

00:28:42.000 With the Secret Service, you kind of started off giving us, from the point of contact, That an occurrence was about to happen.

00:28:51.000 Was there anything particular about the Butler, Pennsylvania event that stands out as regular, irregular, or anything?

00:29:01.000 I would say, not to my knowledge, based on our discussions with our commanders who planned it, it progressed along a normal timeline.

00:29:09.000 They attempted to give the Secret Service and I believe provided the Secret Service with everything they were requested.

00:29:14.000 So your role on that day in terms of the state police was what?

00:29:18.000 So I would classify it as in a support role, and the two main areas of responsibility for the state troopers that were assigned that day were those participating in the motorcade to get former President Trump from his point of landing to the venue in Butler County and back with several other additional entities that were requested by the Secret Service.

00:29:36.000 And then on-site, we had to staff security posts that were determined by the Secret Service.

00:29:42.000 All of those posts were inside of the secure perimeter of the Butler County Farm show.

00:29:47.000 I guess I was one of those individuals who traveled to Butler.

00:29:51.000 Just for my information, have you had any interaction with the FBI or anything as they look into the investigation as to what you or your men observed on that day?

00:30:05.000 Yes, we're conducting an investigation largely in concert with and parallel to the Bureau because the actions of Crooks have federal legal implications and state law implications.

00:30:17.000 The murder is the main one.

00:30:18.000 President Yostin, your comments, you talked about the need for communication.

00:30:23.000 You talked about FirstNet.

00:30:26.000 And so we have federal, state, and local law enforcement at an event like what we're talking about in Butler.

00:30:34.000 But in our conversation with some of the locals...

00:30:38.000 Not state police, but the Sheriff's Department and the Chief of Police and Butler yesterday.

00:30:45.000 Those individuals did not have communication with actually state police or Secret Service.

00:30:54.000 Would that, in your professional opinion, be a vulnerability for managing a seriously injured?

00:31:01.000 I'd like to pause for a moment of silence and remember for a prayer.

00:31:06.000 I don't want to get locked into a timeline of three minutes before.

00:31:12.000 That's probably a total number of time, amount of time that he...

00:31:16.000 Okay, we're doing a moment of silence here, so let me go back currently.

00:31:32.000 ...for the Secret Service to operate all across the United States and have each individual agency telling the Secret Service how the operation should be run.

00:31:38.000 They're the lead agency.

00:31:39.000 If that was something that their protocols called for during the initial meeting when preliminary steps and agencies were brought together, that would be something that would be discussed typically.

00:31:50.000 The AGR building, did your guys on the ground there ever voice concerns the Secret Service for not putting somebody on that building?

00:32:00.000 So...

00:32:01.000 I suppose the best sequence of events that I can give you is that PSP was notified by email on July 5th about this event.

00:32:08.000 There was an initial planning meeting where we had commanders present on Monday, July 8th.

00:32:13.000 So over Tuesday the 9th and Wednesday the 10th, those commanders that we designated, basically our orders are from the front office, my team on down.

00:32:23.000 We work collaboratively with the Secret Service, collaborate, give them what we can.

00:32:28.000 The final walkthrough occurred on the 11th.

00:32:31.000 Present at that meeting were the two commanders that were tasked with both staffing the security checkpoints on the interior of the secure perimeter, as well as the commander who was going to be in charge of the motorcade.

00:32:42.000 But in addition to that, a PSP area commander was on that walkthrough, holding the rank of major.

00:32:47.000 Could you share a little bit of insight?

00:32:48.000 I appreciate the timeline, but could you share a little bit?

00:32:50.000 Because I only have about a minute.

00:32:52.000 I apologize.

00:32:52.000 Yeah, the specific to the AGR building.

00:32:54.000 So on that walkthrough, our area commander...

00:32:57.000 Asked specifically who was responsible for the AGR building, and we were told that Butler ESU was responsible for that area by several Secret Service agents on that walkthrough.

00:33:08.000 Okay.

00:33:10.000 All right.

00:33:12.000 One last quick question.

00:33:16.000 Real quick, I mean, I'll let you comment about it.

00:33:18.000 The slope of the roof, would that have prevented a sniper from being up there?

00:33:21.000 I don't believe so, sir.

00:33:22.000 Okay, thank you.

00:33:23.000 I yield, I now recognize the ranking member for his five minutes of questioning.

00:33:26.000 Thank you very much.

00:33:28.000 Commissioner Parrish, you talked about your tenure with the Pennsylvania State Police.

00:33:36.000 Have you worked other events where a presidential candidate or the president has come?

00:33:43.000 There's an infrastructure in place now to address these, you know, in our operabilities, but that's used to command center and interaction.

00:33:50.000 And I'll wrap up real quickly, Mr.

00:33:52.000 Chair.

00:33:52.000 All right, now we're current.

00:33:54.000 Siloing makes sense, but we need to look at how we make it a clearer chain of communication to ensure that really important pieces of information, like identifying the shooter on the roof, doesn't get delayed in moving through those channels.

00:34:08.000 So thank you both for appearing here.

00:34:09.000 Thank you both for your service, and thank you, Chair.

00:34:11.000 I yield back.

00:34:12.000 Gentlemen Yields, I now recognize Congressman Ezell for his five minutes of testimony.

00:34:20.000 Thank you, Mr.

00:34:20.000 Chairman.

00:34:21.000 We also want to thank all of you for being here today and for Speaker Johnson for putting together a bipartisan task force so we can get as much information to find out what happened here.

00:34:33.000 Today's conversation regarding the attempted assassination of former President Trump is a critical one that I pray never happens again.

00:34:41.000 Throughout my law enforcement career, I held many leadership positions, and through those roles, I've coordinated with the White House, advanced teams, state and local law enforcement, and doing some of these very same similar type events.

00:34:55.000 And we have one goal in mind, and that's to keep people safe.

00:35:00.000 Because of a massive failure in communication, President Trump was shot from a little more than a football field away.

00:35:07.000 And because of the failure of former Secret Service leadership, especially the former director of spectators, were forced to do what the Secret Service failed to do, and that was to protect themselves from bullets.

00:35:21.000 Ultimately, this led to the death of Corey Compertore, who gave his life while bravely shielding his wife and children during this terrible thing.

00:35:30.000 Colonel, thank you for being here today, and I've said From the beginning, if you want answers, you got to talk to the men and women who were on the ground, the law enforcement officers who were out there, and who were taking directions and commands from the leadership of Secret Service and various other leaders.

00:35:48.000 You testified that 32 members of PSP were assigned to various roles to assist the Secret Service.

00:35:54.000 Is that correct?

00:35:56.000 Yes, sir, I did.

00:35:57.000 Your officers were assigned to various roles, but they were not responsible for securing the building Or property at AGR, is that correct?

00:36:06.000 Yes, sir.

00:36:08.000 The former director testified yesterday that the building was outside the Secret Service perimeter.

00:36:14.000 Did the U.S. Secret Service leadership direct local or state police that that was their job to secure the building?

00:36:22.000 And if so, did they provide any guidance on this?

00:36:25.000 So as I stated earlier, aside from the briefing that I received about the walkthrough when the question was raised and the response from the advance team of the Secret Service, the agents on the pre-plan, that that was going to be the responsibility of Butler ESU. I have no first-hand knowledge about any interaction between the Secret Service and any other entity,

00:36:46.000 really.

00:36:47.000 Thank you.

00:36:48.000 The Secret Service established and managed the primary command post for communications in the office...of the Butler Farm Show.

00:36:55.000 Is that correct?

00:36:56.000 That's my understanding, sir, yes.

00:36:58.000 Command Center, as well, the brass sets, guys, and gives orders.

00:37:02.000 ...siloed, and local law enforcement were not in frequent radio contact directly with the Secret Service.

00:37:08.000 Local SWAT and sniper teams were on a separate radio channels from patrol.

00:37:14.000 Colonel, do your radios have the capability to be programmed to be in contact with other agencies?

00:37:21.000 And do you know if the officers on the ground that day had communication capabilities with the Secret Service that was on duty that day?

00:37:29.000 You're asking me a very specific question that I would defer to your communication and information services.

00:37:34.000 I can get you an answer as to what those were.

00:37:36.000 Thank you very much.

00:37:38.000 Do you know if the Secret Service provided any guidance on combined communications?

00:37:43.000 I do not.

00:37:43.000 Again, referring, I have not seen their operations plan.

00:37:46.000 Oh, shit. 0.98

00:37:48.000 Well, he wasn't there, so he doesn't get an out plan. 1.00

00:37:51.000 That makes sense.

00:37:52.000 This guy's a colonel.

00:37:54.000 He's really high up. 0.99

00:37:55.000 He's not going to be there in the fucking security detail like this. 0.99

00:37:58.000 Colonel, how would you have responded to that information? 0.98

00:38:01.000 So, again, I certainly wouldn't articulate that at that point a rangefinder, which could have legal and legitimate use at that point.

00:38:12.000 Is a threat, but it's certainly a highly suspicious activity that should be addressed.

00:38:20.000 Exactly.

00:38:21.000 Mr.

00:38:22.000 Woese, you testified clear and constant communication is crucial to ensure the security of the protectee.

00:38:32.000 And that local law enforcement should be part of the command post to facilitate real-time information sharing and rapid response to emerging situations.

00:38:43.000 As we all know, separate communications are necessary and effective during a large-scale event like this.

00:38:50.000 There's no way everybody can be on the same channel.

00:38:53.000 You talk over each other, you won't ever get anything done.

00:38:56.000 But there must be some clear understandings through communications at the beginning So that split-second decisions can be made so there won't be a lapse in time and these terrible things happen.

00:39:09.000 Would you like to just say a few words about that?

00:39:13.000 Sir, there's no doubt when you look at how many people are involved in an operation like this, having everyone on one channel is difficult.

00:39:21.000 But there are people within contained areas and their ability to be able to communicate as things change across platforms is crucial.

00:39:28.000 In this case, we know that in seconds, things unfolded.

00:39:30.000 In seconds, getting meaningful communication out to people who might be able to act on that communication is vital.

00:39:39.000 So, I think there's avenues here.

00:39:42.000 I agree that not everyone should be on the same channel, but there are certain people within certain areas and perimeters that should be having communication or the ability to communicate a little more freer.

00:39:53.000 Thank you.

00:39:54.000 Thank you, Mr.

00:39:55.000 Chairman.

00:39:55.000 I yield back.

00:39:56.000 Gentleman yields.

00:39:58.000 I now recognize Mr.

00:39:59.000 D'Esposito representing the New York law enforcement community as well for five minutes of testimony.

00:40:08.000 Thank you, Mr.

00:40:08.000 Chairman, and good afternoon.

00:40:10.000 Thank you both for your service.

00:40:13.000 On July 13th, we witnessed the Secret Service fail to secure a Pennsylvania field and keep the former president of the United States of America and the Americans that were gathered there safe.

00:40:25.000 While President Trump thankfully survived this horrific attack, Corey Competore, a volunteer fire chief, a father, and a husband died.

00:40:36.000 While shielding his family from the assassin's bullets.

00:40:39.000 Two others, David Dutch and James Copenhaver, were both struck by bullets and are still recovering.

00:40:48.000 The Secret Service failed.

00:40:52.000 Quite frankly, they failed miserably.

00:40:55.000 And Colonel Paris, Mr.

00:40:58.000 Yeo's Mr.

00:41:00.000 Ezell, myself, we could probably combine our law enforcement experience and have no question that there was failures that day.

00:41:09.000 We could probably ask someone who just graduated from a police academy or a veteran with 40 years on the job and they would agree.

00:41:19.000 So my first question is to Colonel Paris.

00:41:24.000 I know that you mentioned over the last year you've had close to 20 So I would say the basic timeline is the same.

00:41:53.000 We are notified at some point.

00:41:57.000 That there's going to be a visit of a protectee or the president and everybody in between.

00:42:03.000 The venue is ultimately secured, the logistics, and then there's planning at the request of the Secret Service.

00:42:09.000 And our default position is to attempt to partner and give them all the support that we can.

00:42:13.000 Okay.

00:42:14.000 Now, I know that Mr.

00:42:16.000 Menendez had similar questions, but I just want to reiterate because I think it's critically important.

00:42:22.000 Of the dozens of times that you've dealt with visits from the President of the United States, and I'm sure you've thought about this dozens and dozens of times at this point, and read through emails and thought about different incidents, compared to the incident on July 13th,

00:42:38.000 was there anything different from the way that this was handled?

00:42:42.000 Not to my knowledge, sir.

00:42:44.000 Okay.

00:42:44.000 So at approximately 5.51 p.m., Pennsylvania State Police notified the Secret Service of a subject with a rangefinder.

00:42:53.000 That was 20 minutes before the gunman shot President Trump and two others.

00:43:00.000 This is for either one of you.

00:43:02.000 What should have happened next?

00:43:08.000 So ideally I would say that Mr.

00:43:12.000 Crooks could have been encountered and intercepted.

00:43:16.000 That would have been the ideal.

00:43:18.000 Mr.

00:43:18.000 Yewes?

00:43:19.000 Well, again, I have no direct knowledge.

00:43:22.000 I want to make that clear.

00:43:24.000 But I think also we need to assess the threat and determine whether there's a need to withhold the asset from the stage.

00:43:31.000 So I think we all know what should have happened, right?

00:43:34.000 20 minutes passed.

00:43:35.000 There was someone who eventually took a shot at a former president of the United States and killed two innocent Americans.

00:43:43.000 So we know what did happen.

00:43:44.000 One innocent American.

00:43:45.000 We know what should have happened.

00:43:49.000 What do you say to those that are saying that local law enforcement failed to provide adequate security at this route?

00:43:58.000 Good question.

00:44:01.000 See what they say on this one.

00:44:02.000 As I stated earlier, based on everything I know up until day 10, I only am going to comment on the Pennsylvania State Police, and it's my belief as I sit here, based on all the information that I have, that we met or exceeded our expectations for that event.

00:44:19.000 Am I saying that the event was a success?

00:44:21.000 Obviously it was not.

00:44:23.000 And our hearts go out to those affected.

00:44:26.000 Good answer.

00:44:27.000 We're not lead, baby.

00:44:28.000 Translation, we're not the lead agency.

00:44:29.000 I will echo the fact that local law enforcement plays a huge role and must.

00:44:33.000 I don't think the federal agencies have the ability with bandwidth to be able to have this event without coordinated effort with local law enforcement.

00:44:41.000 To my knowledge, local law enforcement did what their responsibilities and directions were.

00:44:45.000 And Mr.

00:44:45.000 Uros, we've The United States Secret Service established and managed the primary command post.

00:44:58.000 Would you agree, Colonel, that in the United States of America, we have a serious issue when it comes to law enforcement and communicating through multiple jurisdictions and agencies at a singular event?

00:45:13.000 I would say the short answer is it depends, but communications are always a critical piece to any successful operation.

00:45:18.000 So I agree it does depend, but I do have a concern.

00:45:22.000 When some people's lives are on the lines, when we are supposed to be protecting an asset, regardless of who it is, but especially someone who was the President of the United States, the fact that law enforcement agencies are communicating at such a critical time via text message is a problem.

00:45:41.000 And it's one that I think this committee and other committees need to take a real hard look at.

00:45:46.000 Mr.

00:45:46.000 Chairman, I yield back.

00:45:47.000 Gentlemen, I now recognize Mr.

00:45:50.000 Strong for a five-minute question.

00:45:53.000 Thank you, Mr.

00:45:53.000 Chairman.

00:45:54.000 Thank you for being here today.

00:45:55.000 I think we all agree that none of us ever wanted to be holding a hearing like this.

00:46:00.000 As we have covered, the Secret Service relies on federal, state, and local partners to coordinate and secure events to ensure the safety of its protectee.

00:46:11.000 As both of you rightly emphasized in your testimony, Secret Service is the ultimate responsible and the final arbiter of any and all security matters affecting their protectee.

00:46:24.000 Full stop.

00:46:26.000 Mr.

00:46:26.000 Yose, you also went on to highlight the importance of mutual respect, trust, and shared commitment.

00:46:33.000 In the relationship between Secret Service, the state, and locals.

00:46:36.000 I was pleased to learn that Director Cheadle has tendered her resignation.

00:46:40.000 This is the first time we have seen real accountability from the Director following July the 13th.

00:46:47.000 It is my hope the truth will now come.

00:46:50.000 Her lack of leadership following the assassination attempt has not only impeded the ongoing investigation and eroded the public's trust, but it is also the potential to erode The mutual respect and trust that are fundamental to this relationship between the Secret Service and partners they rely on.

00:47:08.000 Colonel Parris, I understand that state and locals were the ones that first alerted the command center of a suspicious individual some 20 minutes before he started shooting.

00:47:20.000 Is that correct?

00:47:23.000 As I said before, I would agree with the sequence of events, but I don't want to Go on the record with the exact time.

00:47:32.000 Yeah.

00:47:33.000 Guys, this is what happens when you testify.

00:47:35.000 You don't want to be too specific.

00:47:36.000 Does the Pennsylvania State Police use a digital radio system, whether it be the P25 or something of that nature?

00:47:41.000 Yes, we do.

00:47:43.000 And it has unbelievable technology.

00:47:45.000 I know we've utilized it throughout the state of Alabama 40 years.

00:47:49.000 And as a first responder, to go from UHF, VHF, to a digital system changes the ballgame.

00:48:00.000 Does the Secret Service also use a digital radio system?

00:48:04.000 I would have to get you information on that.

00:48:07.000 I don't know, sir.

00:48:08.000 So the communication between the agencies, you know, you start looking at it.

00:48:14.000 The communication with a digital radio system, you can change frequencies.

00:48:18.000 You can make a mutual frequency.

00:48:20.000 Every radio has, you can have hundreds of different frequencies.

00:48:23.000 But as far as you're not sure if they have a digital radio system or if they're using another conventional UHF or VHF frequency or something of that nature.

00:48:33.000 In answer to the first part, I'm not an expert on radios.

00:48:36.000 I can't render an opinion on what their system is, but the only answer I would provide is my understanding is there are certain encrypted capabilities that the Secret Service has to maintain that may provide difficulty in what would otherwise be.

00:48:52.000 If we had a regular incident, we were able to set up a patch to communicate across agencies.

00:48:56.000 Thank you.

00:48:57.000 Colonel Paris, as you just shared, after state and locals identified the shooter as suspicious, they relayed that information to Secret Service and were given a number to send their concerns to.

00:49:10.000 Is this standard operating procedures to be left a phone number to give your information to, rather than direct communications through radio?

00:49:21.000 I don't want to say that it's standard operating procedure, but if it was a system or a measure that worked to push that information to the people who needed it in the most expeditious means, I wouldn't be averse to going away from standard protocols.

00:49:35.000 You said that you had done this type of event with other presidents or in your state.

00:49:42.000 In past history, is this how it usually was done?

00:49:46.000 I can't say that I have had a personal experience about...

00:49:50.000 I've obviously been present when there were suspicious people that came out over the radio and law enforcement was seeking them, but I can't say that I have a frame of reference exactly on point here, sir.

00:49:59.000 Did the Secret Service provide rules of engagement for state and locals?

00:50:03.000 Did y'all have to authorize a green light for fire, or do you go by your day-to-day activity?

00:50:09.000 We would go by the policy and regulations and state law that cover the Pennsylvania State Police.

00:50:16.000 Another thing that stood out to me with a background in emergency medical services is when the president was brought off, you saw his SUV move about 20 feet and then it sat there.

00:50:28.000 We watched as a lady in a skirt walked in front of the SUV. We watched as other law enforcement people, spectators, whatever, Did you notice that that seemed to be a long time for the president to be sitting for someone that had taken a bullet?

00:50:43.000 Did you think that was a long time?

00:50:44.000 I would completely defer to the Secret Service.

00:50:46.000 Thank you.

00:50:47.000 Mr.

00:50:47.000 Chairman, I yield back.

00:50:48.000 Gentlemen, yields.

00:50:49.000 I now recognize Mr.

00:50:50.000 Crane for five minutes of question.

00:50:52.000 Thank you, Mr.

00:50:53.000 Chairman.

00:50:53.000 I'd like the staff to go ahead and play the video that I took at the site yesterday.

00:51:07.000 This is when they were out there.

00:51:08.000 The congresspeople went out to Pennsylvania to look at it.

00:51:10.000 I suppose the sniper took his shot.

00:51:16.000 It's not that steep at all.

00:51:18.000 We just had a 70-year-old man back here climb up on the roof easily.

00:51:24.000 See that water tower behind me?

00:51:26.000 Secret Service or anybody had sniper teams up there.

00:51:29.000 This guy wouldn't have made it five feet up this roof.

00:51:34.000 He would have been taken out.

00:51:35.000 Behind me, you see the windows that Secret Service was supposedly in the second floor of this building behind.

00:51:44.000 Makes you wonder why they weren't able to quickly dispatch the individual.

00:51:51.000 And then behind me, back over here where those red roofs are, that's where the...

00:51:56.000 Can you guys cut it?

00:51:57.000 Right there, please.

00:51:58.000 ...was giving a speech from.

00:51:59.000 A lot of questions here in Butler.

00:52:02.000 Cut it. 0.63

00:52:03.000 Thank you.

00:52:04.000 All right, Colonel Paris, did you notice when you showed up on site what the tallest structure on the site was?

00:52:11.000 I can't say at the moment that I arrived that I did.

00:52:14.000 No, sir.

00:52:15.000 Okay.

00:52:15.000 Now that you've had a chance to go back and look over it, what is the tallest structure on that site?

00:52:20.000 The water tower, sir.

00:52:21.000 Absolutely.

00:52:22.000 Colonel, do you know how far the water tower was from the roof where the shooter took his shots?

00:52:27.000 I do not.

00:52:28.000 160 yards, sir.

00:52:31.000 Who made the decision, Colonel, not to put a counter-sniper team on the tallest structure by far on the site with 360-degree surveillance?

00:52:39.000 Do you have any idea?

00:52:40.000 I do not know, sir.

00:52:41.000 Okay.

00:52:42.000 We'd like to get that answer.

00:52:44.000 Did you see the video that showed me sticking my phone out the second-story window?

00:52:48.000 Did you see that?

00:52:49.000 Yes, sir.

00:52:50.000 Okay.

00:52:51.000 Exposing the coverage of the window of the entire roof.

00:52:54.000 Are you aware that local law enforcement and Secret Service had full access to that building in that room?

00:53:00.000 My understanding is that they did.

00:53:02.000 Yeah.

00:53:03.000 Why weren't security teams, sir, on-site able to spot a 20-year-old kid with zero camouflage crawling up a white roof with an AR-15 that several rally-goers were screaming and yelling and pointing out and they noticed him and they weren't even there to conduct security.

00:53:22.000 They were there to watch the president.

00:53:24.000 Do you have any idea why the security teams couldn't find that guy?

00:53:28.000 I do not, sir.

00:53:29.000 Would the gentleman yield for just a second on that?

00:53:32.000 So just for clarification, it was the ESU guys that were manning those buildings, and they left because of the call of the suspicious person.

00:53:41.000 So they left their post there to go look for him.

00:53:45.000 They're the same individuals who attempted to climb up the building and were scared away by the shooter pointing the gun, right?

00:53:51.000 I reclaimed my time.

00:53:51.000 Thank you.

00:53:52.000 I'm just wondering why they weren't able to find him, because even while they were looking, they could have still looked out that window that they had access to.

00:54:00.000 All right.

00:54:01.000 Colonel Parris, I'm just going to say it.

00:54:05.000 Are you aware, sir, that many Americans believe this was very likely not a lone shooter, but a coordinated assassination attempt?

00:54:12.000 Have you been getting those messages from people like I have?

00:54:14.000 I have not, sir.

00:54:16.000 You haven't?

00:54:16.000 Well, there's a lot of people in this room that have been getting the same messages.

00:54:20.000 Why do you think that is?

00:54:21.000 Why do you think that a lot of Americans are like, this doesn't add up, this doesn't make sense, guys.

00:54:26.000 How could this many things have gone wrong?

00:54:29.000 Like the things I pointed out, a 20-year-old kid got 150 yards of the President of the United States with an AR-15, flew a drone to conduct site surveillance, was spotted with a rangefinder, ranging targets, then lost, Had advanced explosive devices on him with no military training.

00:54:50.000 Nobody was placed in the most obvious spot to conduct counter-sniper operations.

00:54:54.000 I was a sniper in the SEAL team's colonel.

00:54:57.000 As soon as I got out of the SUV and I saw that water tower, I was like, that's exactly where I'd be.

00:55:02.000 Put me right there.

00:55:04.000 So obvious.

00:55:05.000 After partisan attempts to bankrupt him, imprison him for 750 years, and countless depictions as a modern-day Hitler, are you surprised, sir, that a lot of Americans are like, maybe there's more to this story?

00:55:21.000 I wouldn't begin to speculate about what the American people think, sir.

00:55:25.000 Colonel, did your team make an investigation at the suspect's home?

00:55:30.000 You guys brought me down here.

00:55:31.000 I don't want to be here. 1.00

00:55:33.000 You asked me these goddamn questions. 0.99

00:55:35.000 Excuse me, sir. 1.00

00:55:36.000 I asked that question.

00:55:37.000 Did your team make entry and conduct any investigation at the suspect's home?

00:55:41.000 I believe we had people that participated in that securing of it.

00:55:48.000 There were bomb assets that we provided.

00:55:50.000 Mr.

00:55:51.000 Chairman, can I have 30 more seconds?

00:55:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:55:53.000 I'm letting everybody count.

00:55:54.000 Okay.

00:55:55.000 On the night of.

00:55:56.000 Since then, none...

00:55:57.000 Did you get any reports from any of your agents of anything fishy at the home?

00:56:03.000 I was briefed on...

00:56:05.000 Was there any silverware found in the home or trash?

00:56:08.000 I have nothing in the briefing that I was given, sir.

00:56:11.000 Was it extremely clean, almost like a medical lab?

00:56:14.000 Were you given any of those reports?

00:56:15.000 I was not given any of those details, sir.

00:56:16.000 Okay, that's what I'm hearing.

00:56:18.000 Interesting.

00:56:19.000 The last thing I want to enter into the record, Mr.

00:56:21.000 Chairman, this is an article, opinion from, I believe, the Washington Post...

00:56:41.000 And I think even though we want to dodge around it and not make this partisan, I think we all know that a lot of this has to do with the rhetoric, the very violent rhetoric that has led up to this.

00:56:52.000 Thank you.

00:56:53.000 I yield back.

00:56:54.000 Gentleman yields and so ordered on the entry of that into the record, I now recognize Mr.

00:56:59.000 Burkine for five minutes of testimony or witness questioning.

00:57:04.000 Thank you, Mr.

00:57:05.000 Chairman.

00:57:07.000 Alexander, would you mind moving that just a little bit forward here so I can...

00:57:10.000 They got a little diagram.

00:57:12.000 Can you see that or am I obstructing your view?

00:57:15.000 I believe I can see it, sir.

00:57:17.000 Alexander, would you mind...

00:57:18.000 I'm sorry.

00:57:18.000 Can we shift it just a little bit to your left, Alexander?

00:57:22.000 Alexander.

00:57:22.000 There we go.

00:57:23.000 Okay.

00:57:24.000 Better?

00:57:24.000 Yes, sir.

00:57:25.000 Okay.

00:57:26.000 So this is a picture I took yesterday on the grounds, looking out of that second story window that has the corridor that connects the AGR building, the American Glass Research Building, with where the shooter's location,

00:57:41.000 and I'm going to stand up and I'm going to point to the shooter's location as we were made aware.

00:57:48.000 From that X is where the shooter was shared with us.

00:57:53.000 His body was found.

00:57:54.000 From this viewpoint, there's some videos that make it look like he's more this direction, but from the perception, it kind of is confusing.

00:58:02.000 But he was more towards that opposite side.

00:58:05.000 This window, second story, it's the second window from the right side.

00:58:13.000 That window has this view where they could clearly, those ESU officers that were stationed, given access by the property owner to that window, could see the shooter had they stayed in that manned position.

00:58:26.000 This is there moving towards the location of President Trump with the red barns back here.

00:58:32.000 His stage was right in front of that.

00:58:33.000 And you can see a window here that is absolutely going to obstruct the view.

00:58:38.000 To be able to look to the 20 or 30 different barn structures, the cattle building, the sheep building, the hog building, the rodeo arena by the pond.

00:58:46.000 The many structures are 50 buildings within a 500-yard radius of where President Trump was at.

00:58:51.000 So many vulnerabilities.

00:58:53.000 Do you see a problem with that window being in the way of someone being able from this position to be able to take care of the asset?

00:59:04.000 A casement window would Present a tactical concern for full field.

00:59:09.000 And I understand, potentially, you know, this was air conditioning on top of this second story building, was it?

00:59:13.000 And so maybe that was a consideration.

00:59:15.000 But ultimately, Secret Service is the one who made the determination of placement or contacting or making sure the plan was in coordination with the property owner for allowing, gaining admittance from the property owner for this second story window.

00:59:28.000 Is that correct?

00:59:29.000 That was Secret Service's plan.

00:59:31.000 Correct.

00:59:31.000 Ultimately, it's on...

00:59:32.000 It's on Secret Service for that plan.

00:59:34.000 All right.

00:59:35.000 My question is...

00:59:38.000 If it's their plan, did they not indicate that someone had to stay manned in that location?

00:59:46.000 Because we're being told that when the two officers, local PD, were trying to lift them...

00:59:52.000 Alright, so this is interesting to figure out which local law enforcement agencies were there.

00:59:55.000 Was it state police?

00:59:56.000 Was it Butler Police Department?

00:59:58.000 Was it Sheriff's Office?

00:59:59.000 Who was it?

00:59:59.000 ...on the opposite side to get a look at the gentleman and he turns his gun and they dropped off the building.

01:00:05.000 This would have been a perfect opportunity for someone to be on the radio.

01:00:08.000 They could have taken him out from this location.

01:00:11.000 Did the Secret Service plan not include directives from staying in those positions?

01:00:18.000 I don't know, sir.

01:00:20.000 You don't know.

01:00:21.000 All right, here's another question.

01:00:23.000 With the two minutes that you said that there was an opportunity from the time that they were hoisted up, looked at the shooter...

01:00:31.000 You're given the responsibility, as this is delegating the outer perimeter, to secure the area.

01:00:37.000 Why weren't they able to immediately call their supervisor, who would then be authorized to issue a hold on the asset, or a get him off the stage call?

01:00:46.000 Why does it have to be, as your testimony says, they took a picture, sent it to Secret Service, 20 minutes before the incident, the shooting, and they have to wait for a response.

01:00:59.000 Why is not the line of communication, I understand they're on different radio frequencies, why were they not empowered to say, if we send something suspicious, then state police, local law enforcement, Sheriff's department, each one, the head official of each one of those departments, if we entrusted them with enough responsibility to secure that environment,

01:01:16.000 then we ought to give them the responsibility to issue a hold call because of something that they see as a threat.

01:01:22.000 Are they empowered to do that, or does it have to all go through Secret Service to issue a hold?

01:01:26.000 Secret Service.

01:01:27.000 I can only say what I know about the state police operations plan, and I do not know the answer to your question, sir.

01:01:36.000 I do not know the answer.

01:01:37.000 I don't know what the protocol would be to issue the hold order.

01:01:41.000 And just as a point of clarification that I tried to clean up with the Congressman from New Jersey before, when the two municipal officers were, one was hoisted- Can I jump on that?

01:01:50.000 Two to three minutes because I get limited time here.

01:01:52.000 Just to make sure, that was seconds before.

01:01:54.000 That was seconds before Crooks started firing.

01:01:58.000 Okay, you had said earlier today it was two to a few minutes, but you're saying seconds before.

01:02:00.000 I cleaned that up for the second time.

01:02:02.000 Yes, sir.

01:02:02.000 Okay.

01:02:03.000 But even if they're hoisting, your testimony today, if I understood you correctly, it was two different officers that were hoisting to get a look at him, not the ones who were manned in this view.

01:02:13.000 That is my understanding, yes, sir.

01:02:14.000 Okay.

01:02:15.000 So had they remained in there, they immediately would have seen the incident taking place if they were on the same line of communication, and they could have taken the asset out.

01:02:24.000 I'm remiss to say that because I don't know what their general rules of engagement and assignment were from the Secret Service.

01:02:29.000 It just looks to me like a major breakdown of communication.

01:02:32.000 This procedure looks to me like it is lapsed with the ability of someone who, if they entrust them with the ability to secure these perimeter, they ought to be empowered enough to be able to give the authority on their comms to issue a hold.

01:02:46.000 I don't understand that.

01:02:47.000 With that, I yield, Mr.

01:02:48.000 Chairman.

01:02:50.000 The gentleman yields.

01:02:52.000 I'm going to say this because I have thoroughly enjoyed both of your testimony today.

01:03:00.000 There are a lot of guys up here on both sides of the aisle that are charged about this.

01:03:05.000 Their emotion is not intended to communicate a lack of trust in the Pennsylvania State Police.

01:03:14.000 You're being incredibly helpful today.

01:03:17.000 Some of the things that we've discovered from your testimony have brought some frustration to our folks, and I hope you'll understand it in that context, that the energy is not directed at you.

01:03:30.000 The failure to set up appropriate communication systems and to make decisions when they become aware of someone pointing a rangefinder is what's got people upset, and that's on Secret Service.

01:03:47.000 I just wanted to make sure y'all heard that from me.

01:03:49.000 Mr.

01:03:49.000 Chairman, if I was amped up a little bit, I concur.

01:03:53.000 So, greatly respect what you're doing.

01:03:55.000 I now recognize Ms. 1.00

01:03:58.000 Lee for five minutes of testimony.

01:04:02.000 Thank you, Mr.

01:04:02.000 Chairman, for having this hearing and for organizing this committee's trip to Butler, Pennsylvania.

01:04:08.000 For us, being on the ground in Butler, Pennsylvania yesterday made clear the severity of the security failures on Saturday, July 13th.

01:04:19.000 Those failures that almost allowed former President Donald Trump to be assassinated.

01:04:27.000 Unfortunately, what has followed that failed assassination attempt is an erosion of public trust related to those responsible for keeping...

01:04:36.000 Well, she goes over that. 0.99

01:04:38.000 We got 30 bucks from Sweet 303 Nashville Council Club checking in.

01:04:42.000 Shout out to you.

01:04:43.000 Sig Bore goes, Hey Byron, want to know if there's not too smart to chase, but I learned how to deal with girls. 1.00

01:04:48.000 Yeah, don't chase these bitches, bro. 1.00

01:04:52.000 Keeping the president and the attendees of the rally safe. 0.99

01:04:57.000 We've heard that because of a sloped roof, law enforcement was not able to safely secure the area that day.

01:05:03.000 We've heard reports that certain officers abandoned their posts due to weather conditions.

01:05:08.000 We've heard the Secret Service attempt to shift blame to state and local law enforcement, asserting that they failed to secure certain areas in the perimeter.

01:05:18.000 Secret Service Chief Cheadle's resignation this morning is the first of many steps that need to be taken, and today's hearing is just the beginning of our process to get clear, accurate information about this issue,

01:05:37.000 about the failures associated with that day, and ensure that not only Congress, but that the American public get the answers that they deserve about these events.

01:05:47.000 Mr.

01:05:48.000 Yost, I'd like to start with you.

01:05:50.000 The Secret Service is always the lead in providing security for these types of events that involve one of their protectees, but they clearly rely on their partnerships with state and local law enforcement as they move to different locations around the country.

01:06:05.000 Are you concerned that former Director Cheadle's comments to ABC News, which many people heard as blame shifting to local law enforcement, Could undermine the level of trust between state and local authorities and Secret Service when they come to communities around America.

01:06:22.000 Yes, I absolutely do.

01:06:24.000 And our organization actually issued a press release stating just that.

01:06:29.000 Our relationship, it's impossible for a federal agency to do their function without including local law enforcement.

01:06:36.000 That's a given.

01:06:38.000 And that relationship is built on trust.

01:06:40.000 And when comments were made like what made on ABC, then we felt the need to call her out on it.

01:06:49.000 And do you believe that the federal government's statements to the public, to the American people, after this attempted assassination, have helped or harmed public trust and law enforcement overall?

01:07:01.000 You know, I'll say this.

01:07:03.000 The very powers that we have or the ability to do our job as law enforcement officers is directly related to trust.

01:07:11.000 And in an investigation, there's a fine line between what you do in order to protect an investigation and also be accountable to the public you serve.

01:07:19.000 And when you don't walk that fine line, then it does create distrust.

01:07:22.000 And it does cause a lot of confusion.

01:07:25.000 It causes people to fill in their own blanks.

01:07:27.000 And as a result, this is what we see.

01:07:29.000 Sharing accurate information is important to keep everyone informed so that it doesn't run in different directions.

01:07:36.000 And as the American people wait for an after-action report, what can or should law enforcement agencies at any level be doing to address concerns about transparency and protect that public trust?

01:07:48.000 Well, I'll start right here.

01:07:50.000 I mean, you have Pennsylvania State Police.

01:07:52.000 It filled in a lot of gaps that should have been filled in a long time ago.

01:07:55.000 This is information that should be known to everyone.

01:07:58.000 It is essential facts.

01:08:01.000 It doesn't change.

01:08:02.000 It is what it is.

01:08:04.000 And sharing this information lets everyone know exactly what occurred and gives us some insight of things that we need to correct.

01:08:12.000 And you've been here now throughout this day, throughout questioning from a number of members of this committee.

01:08:18.000 As this committee continues to investigate the failures that resulted in this shooting, what are some of the key questions that you believe should be asked about the assassination attempt as well as the management and organization of Secret Service more broadly?

01:08:33.000 Well, again, I have to be upfront in the fact that I have no direct knowledge to this incident or things that unfold.

01:08:41.000 I'll just speak in just general terms.

01:08:43.000 The first question that I think we all need to ask is, with so many elevated positions available, What steps were taken to protect those assets?

01:08:52.000 I don't know the answer to that, but there were a lot of places.

01:08:55.000 I mean, we learned a lot of lessons going back to President Kennedy.

01:09:00.000 Higher locations create unique problems, and as a result, they should have been part of any action plan.

01:09:05.000 I'm not saying they weren't.

01:09:06.000 I'm just saying that we see the end result of what happened here, so obviously we have a failure there.

01:09:11.000 Thank you, Mr.

01:09:12.000 Chairman.

01:09:12.000 I yield back.

01:09:14.000 The General Lady yields back and now recognize the gentleman in whose district this tragedy occurred.

01:09:20.000 Fine Representative from Pennsylvania, Mr.

01:09:22.000 Kelly.

01:09:24.000 Thank you, Mr.

01:09:25.000 Bishop.

01:09:25.000 I appreciate Chairman Greene's allowing me to be here and then also to be in Butler yesterday where it's my hometown.

01:09:32.000 I'm four miles from this location.

01:09:36.000 My concern actually started on July the 5th when I was told that President Former President Trump was coming to Butler, and I said, that's great.

01:09:46.000 And they said, yeah, and he's going to be at the Butler Farm Show.

01:09:48.000 I said, you must mean the Big Butler Fair.

01:09:51.000 They said, no, the Butler Farm Show.

01:09:53.000 I said, who did a site visit?

01:09:57.000 The answer is, we've already made our determination.

01:10:02.000 My question was, then what you just told me is nobody's been to that site.

01:10:06.000 I will just tell you right now that what you are planning there is not proper for the crowd that's going to show up.

01:10:12.000 At that point, the person on the phone said, Mr.

01:10:16.000 Kelly, there'll be 6,000 or 7,000 people there.

01:10:21.000 I said, well, that tells me even more about the fact that you have no idea where you're going and historically what is...

01:10:26.000 Chad, do me a favor.

01:10:27.000 There's like 3,000 of you guys watching the Rumble.

01:10:29.000 Can you guys do me a huge favor?

01:10:30.000 Huge, huge favor.

01:10:32.000 Pause what you're doing.

01:10:33.000 Open up another tab on YouTube.

01:10:35.000 Watch the video on YouTube and like the video, guys.

01:10:37.000 Let's get this thing up to 2K Live viewers.

01:10:39.000 Like the video, man.

01:10:40.000 Let's get the description.

01:10:41.000 And I really appreciate that, guys.

01:10:42.000 That helps me a lot if you guys do that.

01:10:44.000 So just open up another tab on your window.

01:10:46.000 Do it on your phone, whatever.

01:10:47.000 Play it in the background.

01:10:49.000 And let it go ahead and like the video.

01:10:57.000 And I think forever now, people are going to look at what happened and say, we knew there was something wrong.

01:11:07.000 We could see it.

01:11:11.000 YouTube channel name is FedReacts, guys.

01:11:13.000 FedReacts.

01:11:14.000 I'll drop the link in here for y'all.

01:11:15.000 ...acted quicker.

01:11:16.000 Mr.

01:11:16.000 Compertori would still be alive today.

01:11:18.000 As FedReacts, guys.

01:11:19.000 FedReacts.

01:11:19.000 President Trump would not have been wounded.

01:11:22.000 And two other people who were there that day would not have been wounded.

01:11:25.000 And in a greater sense, the American people have been wounded in a way that they have lost faith, trust, and confidence in how we protect certain people.

01:11:37.000 This goes far beyond that, and I appreciate you both being here, and I'll tell you what, you really have given us testimony based on what your whole careers have been about, and that is protecting people.

01:11:48.000 For some reason, on July 13th, we knew something was wrong.

01:11:57.000 Every person I've talked to that was there that day or responsible for protection says, we did our job.

01:12:07.000 And I said, so then you're saying that somebody else didn't do their job.

01:12:10.000 And the answer is, well, that's to be decided later on.

01:12:14.000 So I would just say, first of all, somebody else didn't do their job.

01:12:16.000 And the answer is, well, I meant what I said.

01:12:19.000 I think the American people now are deeply wounded, and the faith, trust, and confidence we need to have in our government has been fading for too long.

01:12:27.000 That's true.

01:12:28.000 No one trusts the government anymore.

01:12:31.000 I was here with the Pennsylvania State Police.

01:12:32.000 I've talked to the Pennsylvania State Police since then.

01:12:34.000 Mr.

01:12:34.000 Yose, thank you for your career.

01:12:36.000 But at the end of the day, we don't have the answers we need to have.

01:12:40.000 And I just, I said it earlier and I mean it.

01:12:42.000 There was no reason for Cory Compromitore to be dead today.

01:12:46.000 There is no reason.

01:12:47.000 For President Trump to have been wounded, or two other members in the audience that day to have been wounded, had we done what we knew before we let it go any further than that.

01:12:57.000 That could have been stopped early on.

01:12:59.000 Nobody can convince me that when people see somebody on the roof of a building, And pointing to him and yelling, there's somebody up there.

01:13:07.000 It needs to be taken care of.

01:13:08.000 And other people who were there, the eyewitnesses said, they watched him go onto those grounds.

01:13:13.000 And every time they said, there's something wrong, somebody is going in the wrong direction and shouldn't be there.

01:13:19.000 And the answer comes down, you don't know what you're talking about.

01:13:24.000 There's nobody there.

01:13:25.000 So as we continue looking at this, and I think that...

01:13:30.000 We have a lot of testimony today.

01:13:32.000 Again, I thank you for being there, but I just submit to you that the victims of that day, innocent people, None of it had to happen.

01:13:44.000 We knew beforehand and we could have prevented it, but we failed to act when we should have acted.

01:13:50.000 So I appreciate your careers and everything you've done.

01:13:52.000 And Chairman, I appreciate the fact that I've been able to be here today- You just wanted to yap, you didn't even ask any questions.

01:13:57.000 Somebody's congressman just wanted to yap, bro.

01:13:59.000 In a town that I have lived.

01:14:00.000 This spot is a place I've been at many, many, many times.

01:14:04.000 I just cannot understand why we didn't act when we knew there was something wrong.

01:14:11.000 At the very least, they could have taken President Trump off the podium.

01:14:16.000 And some of the other activity after that never would have taken place.

01:14:18.000 So, thank you for having me.

01:14:21.000 You just want to yap, bro.

01:14:22.000 Thank you both.

01:14:23.000 This one just want to yap. 1.00

01:14:23.000 He has no questions. 1.00

01:14:24.000 Thank you so much for being here.

01:14:26.000 I appreciate it, but there is far, far more we have to do.

01:14:29.000 Thank you, sir.

01:14:30.000 These guys just get too excited sometimes.

01:14:32.000 We're going to do another round of questioning.

01:14:35.000 And...

01:14:36.000 I don't know, Mr.

01:14:37.000 Cray, if you're going to want to ask any other questions.

01:14:40.000 I'll have a question.

01:14:41.000 Okay, sounds good.

01:14:42.000 So you'll follow me and then we'll go around.

01:14:46.000 I just want to get back to this text message that was sent at about 20 to 25 minutes prior.

01:14:55.000 That text message was a picture of Crook's Was it a picture of him pointing the rangefinder or of him just looking suspicious?

01:15:08.000 Chairman, I have not seen the picture that was sent, so I don't know.

01:15:13.000 My understanding is, to the best of my briefings, it was the pictures that were initially taken by Butler ESU. Okay, so that was the 62 minute prior.

01:15:23.000 Okay.

01:15:24.000 At 20, 25 minutes prior, though, someone...

01:15:28.000 Saw him pointing a rangefinder and taking range readings, right?

01:15:37.000 I think I don't want to speculate as to what he actually was doing with the rangefinder, but the rangefinder, my understanding is, was the heightened suspicion.

01:15:46.000 Yes, sir.

01:15:46.000 And he was pointing it?

01:15:48.000 I mean, because a rangefinder...

01:15:51.000 I guess you can have it digital and do it like this, but there are also range finders you look through and you have a reading.

01:15:57.000 Do you know description of the range finder?

01:15:59.000 It was not brief to me.

01:16:01.000 Okay.

01:16:02.000 But there was concern, and that was relayed to the command post.

01:16:08.000 And that was a PSP guy in the Secret Service command post via a text message 20-something minutes before, and you'd think it included the fact that the guy had a range finder.

01:16:20.000 My understanding is yes.

01:16:21.000 Okay.

01:16:23.000 Okay.

01:16:24.000 Then you mentioned that the two ESU guys that were in the second story, it's honestly, in truth, to me, it appears to be a second building behind it that got joined by all these different...

01:16:37.000 The breakup of that whole complex and the intricacies of, you know, places to hide and move around, you know, all the little alleyways is because they built tunnelways or...

01:16:50.000 Not tunnels, but hallways that were covered between each of these different buildings.

01:16:54.000 So it's actually a separate building with a...

01:16:57.000 Connector.

01:16:59.000 Yep.

01:16:59.000 So there are two guys in that building.

01:17:02.000 They leave to go look for the guy.

01:17:05.000 The suspicious person.

01:17:06.000 My understanding is, yes, according to interviews.

01:17:09.000 So they were not manning...

01:17:11.000 They did not have oversight on that rooftop because they were out looking for the guy.

01:17:16.000 Correct.

01:17:16.000 My understanding is it was the grounds around there...

01:17:20.000 To see it photographed now or on your tour yesterday without scores of people traversing from different parking areas to make ingress into the secure perimeter that there was a concerted effort to try and identify and make contact with him.

01:17:36.000 Sure.

01:17:36.000 In conjunction with other, I was briefed that there were two other suspicious individuals that, simultaneous to this, not terribly too far away, distance-wise, I don't have the specifics, but this is all occurring contemporaneously.

01:17:50.000 But one of them, Crooks, had a rangefinder.

01:17:52.000 And so they leave and they go, look, he's suspicious.

01:17:55.000 That leaves that building with two sets of eyes that could have observed it, granted, by exposing themselves.

01:18:02.000 And by the way, I would think they could stay in the building as opposed to being on top of it for their own sort of defilade position.

01:18:11.000 I get that as a sniper works.

01:18:14.000 But, you know, you've got to be able to see it.

01:18:15.000 So anyway, they leave...

01:18:18.000 Was Secret Service notified that they were leaving to go look for this guy and thus those eyes on top of the building known?

01:18:25.000 I do not know.

01:18:26.000 And the other thing that I do not know is where else Butler ESU sent that information.

01:18:32.000 I have not been briefed on that.

01:18:33.000 Who told them...

01:18:35.000 Who told them to go look?

01:18:37.000 Do you know if they were told to go look?

01:18:38.000 He's not going to know any of this.

01:18:39.000 We just know that they did go look.

01:18:41.000 Guys, he's not going to know any of this.

01:18:42.000 A very concerted effort with all of those alcoves and all of those buildings was made.

01:18:47.000 There were two additional officers who, again, I don't know the specifics of the timeline.

01:18:51.000 I don't know the specifics of the logistics of how that information was relayed, but I'm briefed that they came and they made a very concerted effort to try and locate crooks.

01:19:01.000 But it seems to me that that was leaving that Extra set of eyes on top of the building.

01:19:09.000 It would be something I, if I were the site commander at that point, I'd want to know two guys are leaving a post where they have observation on a building and that somebody relayed that to me so that I would know, wait a minute, now two sets of eyes that were on the building.

01:19:25.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:19:26.000 It's like if you pull security, if you pull your lateral security in an ambush or something.

01:19:31.000 I'm talking like an army guy now.

01:19:33.000 The commander's going to know that that guy's moved away from there, and now he's got a blind spot, right?

01:19:37.000 So I just want to make sure, I want to dig into that a little more.

01:19:40.000 Obviously, you don't have the answer, so we'll dig elsewhere, but I find it interesting that they leave, this guy is so suspicious, has a rangefinder, they leave their post that they are manning to go look for him, yet Secret Service, and they get told about it 20 to 25 minutes beforehand,

01:19:58.000 but Secret Service still lets the president go on the stage.

01:20:01.000 I'm just I'm totally blown away by that, but again, there's more details to be had.

01:20:07.000 Thank you for being here.

01:20:10.000 I really appreciate it.

01:20:11.000 I'm going to turn it over now to the ranking member for his five minutes of questioning.

01:20:16.000 Gentlemen, thank you for being here today.

01:20:22.000 Commissioner Paris, Mr.

01:20:26.000 Yost, we're looking at a rearview mirror of what happened.

01:20:30.000 A lot of good questions from both sides of the aisle.

01:20:35.000 Commissioner Paris, you don't have the luxury of time.

01:20:39.000 You're protecting governor and you'll be protecting high-profile candidates in your battleground state like right about now.

01:20:52.000 I'm trying to figure out how we help you do your job a whole lot better.

01:20:57.000 Mr.

01:20:58.000 Kelly His line of questioning was interesting.

01:21:01.000 And I consider it important because that's his background, that's his backyard.

01:21:06.000 And he asked, who decided the site of the event?

01:21:11.000 It's a good question.

01:21:13.000 Bigger question is, who okays, who approves the site of an event?

01:21:19.000 And I come back to what I said earlier, which is one of those officers on the ground said, Lou, he said, who's in charge?

01:21:28.000 The Secret Service says, good or bad, does the campaign then say good or bad, or does the campaign have the ability to override the Secret Service at an event?

01:21:42.000 And I say, and I ask this question from you, Commissioner Paris, you're going to have to make these decisions here real soon.

01:21:50.000 As if I'm here where you're at today.

01:21:54.000 Bro.

01:21:56.000 Today, you've learned some lessons.

01:21:59.000 The 13th to today, we've all learned some lessons, and you have to execute, sir.

01:22:06.000 And it's not your responsibility.

01:22:09.000 It's not our responsibility.

01:22:11.000 It's all of us our responsibility.

01:22:13.000 And I want to know how we can help you clarify these lines of command, so to speak, to make sure that we minimize the possibilities of this happening again.

01:22:27.000 Who makes the decisions?

01:22:28.000 Who's in charge?

01:22:30.000 What are the lessons we've learned today, gentlemen?

01:22:34.000 They're not kids, dude.

01:22:36.000 What is it that we can do to make sure that it's not going to be on your shoulders?

01:22:40.000 You're not going to be able to resign.

01:22:42.000 Bro. 0.99

01:22:43.000 You have to execute. 0.99

01:22:44.000 Please. 0.99

01:22:45.000 And that's why these congresspeople piss me off sometimes. 0.99

01:22:47.000 They're very fucking condescending, dude. 0.98

01:22:49.000 In the legislature, in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, we are very supported. 0.99

01:22:53.000 And we have the resources, I believe, moving forward to rise to the occasion.

01:23:01.000 The Secret Service remains the agency with the most experience, traditionally, when you talk about organizational knowledge to carry this forward.

01:23:10.000 Like, bro, this guy's like the head of the state police. 1.00

01:23:12.000 He doesn't give a fuck what you think, you stupid congressman. 1.00

01:23:15.000 Like, bro, what the fuck, man? 1.00

01:23:17.000 Condescending dickhead for no reason. 1.00

01:23:19.000 Shut up, nigga. 1.00

01:23:20.000 He's not the lead. 1.00

01:23:22.000 Civilian and enlisted Pennsylvania state police show up every day to do.

01:23:25.000 We will do.

01:23:27.000 We want a...

01:23:29.000 A robust republic and we want to secure people's ability to express their views and we have worked diligently and will continue to work diligently to make sure that that happens, sir.

01:23:44.000 Commissioner Paris, you are the thin blue line.

01:23:48.000 Keeps us safe.

01:23:50.000 Secret Service is an even thinner line.

01:23:53.000 It keeps, in many ways, our democracy functioning, protecting us.

01:23:58.000 They have to score 100%.

01:24:00.000 They cannot let one bad thing happen as they did on the 13th.

01:24:07.000 I want to make sure that we know, that we give the Secret Service the ability to make those decisions when it comes to the safety of our candidates and elected officials.

01:24:19.000 And for the third time, I'm going to repeat those words that were told to me by An individual, law enforcement individual, on the ground when he said, Lou, who's in charge?

01:24:32.000 Is it the campaign?

01:24:34.000 Or is it the Secret Service?

01:24:37.000 And I'd like to get to the bottom of that and make sure it's the Secret Service that's in charge.

01:24:44.000 I don't know who is in charge, and I hope to God that we do find out.

01:24:50.000 And I hope it's a Secret Service and...

01:24:53.000 Whoever wrote the OBS plan and signed off on it is who's in charge, man. 0.98

01:24:56.000 These congresspeople are boneheads, bro. 1.00

01:24:58.000 Remember talking to a fucking top guy of state police as if he's gonna have the fucking answers. 1.00

01:25:02.000 Bro, their job is to escort the president with their fucking marked units, be there as a presence, that's it. 1.00

01:25:08.000 I yield. 1.00

01:25:09.000 There you go, no shit. 1.00

01:25:10.000 He yields back. 1.00

01:25:10.000 I now recognize myself for five minutes of questioning Colonel Paris. 1.00

01:25:13.000 These guys, bro.

01:25:14.000 I appreciate your patience.

01:25:16.000 Who's in charge? 1.00

01:25:17.000 Nigga, shut up. 1.00

01:25:18.000 And continuing and through this questioning. 1.00

01:25:20.000 And I would submit...

01:25:25.000 I think your candor, Colonel Parris, has been very refreshing, and it paints a clear contrast from what was the testimony of the director of the Secret Service yesterday, who's now resigned.

01:25:37.000 But her resignation doesn't resolve a thing.

01:25:40.000 And in fact, the criminal investigation that your department is undertaking, that presumably Butler authorities may be involved in, FBI is undertaking, those don't really resolve anything.

01:25:51.000 They affix criminal liability of someone who's presumably, if they acted alone, is dead.

01:25:56.000 What is the most important issue is we have a national security crisis.

01:26:01.000 We have, right now, the only person who's been inactivated, as I understand it, is the sharpshooter who took the perp out The people who made what appear to be unbelievably horrendous decisions.

01:26:18.000 You can't even imagine.

01:26:20.000 It boggles the mind, the decisions that were made.

01:26:22.000 They're still in place.

01:26:23.000 And we have multiple protectees moving around the country every day.

01:26:28.000 And those same people, I don't even know if they've changed anything about what they're doing.

01:26:32.000 Presumably you would think so, but we don't know that.

01:26:35.000 So I think we need to learn as much as possible from you.

01:26:39.000 I will say as a note of departure, I don't think, from what I've heard, you've made pretty clear the Pennsylvania State Police didn't do anything wrong.

01:26:47.000 I don't know whether Butler County ESU might have done something wrong, so let me bear into that.

01:26:52.000 Okay, all right.

01:26:53.000 But it's clear to me as a bell that Secret Service, and that's everyone's characterized as a colossal failure, because it's obvious to everyone concerned that that's the case.

01:27:02.000 The two who were, I'm going to get one thing I understand transpired while I was absent from the hearing for a bit.

01:27:07.000 Do I understand that the two Butler ESU officers who one hoisted the other to the roof line where the Just so you guys know, that's not the same agency as this guy.

01:27:19.000 Those were two different ESU officers than the ones that originally spotted crooks from the second floor.

01:27:24.000 These guys are local police.

01:27:26.000 He's state police.

01:27:27.000 Just to be clear, my understanding is the two officers that responded and one hoisted up the second one were not part of Butler ESU. They were two separate municipal officers who were tasked with A different responsibility.

01:27:41.000 Okay.

01:27:42.000 I would speculate as an example to say a traffic post or a...

01:27:46.000 Understood.

01:27:47.000 And they responded.

01:27:48.000 I don't know, again, the specifics as to how they were alerted.

01:27:51.000 You've got to bring those two guys in.

01:27:52.000 But just to be clear, they were too separate.

01:27:53.000 You need to bring both of them in.

01:27:54.000 Okay.

01:27:54.000 The ESU, the Butler ESU officers who...

01:27:57.000 Honestly, I'll just stop talking to this trooper and bring those motherfuckers in immediately. 1.00

01:28:01.000 From the second floor of the AGR building. 1.00

01:28:03.000 That is my understanding.

01:28:04.000 Yes, sir.

01:28:04.000 Okay.

01:28:05.000 Were they posted there in order to maintain overwatch on the roof, or were they generally assigned roving responsibility to be in the vicinity of that building?

01:28:17.000 I can't answer that, and I would defer to the Secret Service as to what the communication was and the assignment given.

01:28:25.000 Put that picture of the building up.

01:28:26.000 I see it because I asked for it.

01:28:28.000 I don't even know if I'll fit it in at this point.

01:28:29.000 So that's, yeah, you see, so Crooks was on the building directly facing the camera here, and you see the window open to the left.

01:28:39.000 That's the second story of the AGR building where those ESU officers spotted Crooks, correct?

01:28:44.000 That's my understanding.

01:28:46.000 Okay.

01:28:47.000 Did they advise their senior, you know, their command that they were departing that location to look for Crooks?

01:28:53.000 Do you know that?

01:28:54.000 I do not know, sir.

01:28:56.000 Why did they stay away from that position for so long?

01:28:59.000 If I understand correctly, the picture of Crooks was texted about 20-25 minutes ahead of the shooting.

01:29:06.000 Is that correct, first of all?

01:29:09.000 Could you ask me that one more time, sir?

01:29:11.000 I just want to make sure.

01:29:12.000 Was the picture of Crooks that they took, did they take that picture and send it up to their command about 20-25 minutes before the shooting?

01:29:20.000 What I want to be specific about is when the PSP member in the command post received it, and I believe that's in the vicinity of 20-25 minutes with the caveat prior put on the record about A series of events, not a timeline minute by minute.

01:29:35.000 So you don't know whether they...

01:29:36.000 I don't specifically know.

01:29:37.000 I believe the pictures of Crooks were taken at some point before that when he was identified as being suspicious based on my prior testimony from the briefings that I had because he was...

01:29:51.000 Okay, I get it.

01:29:52.000 At least we've got a fairly long numbers of minutes, 10, 15, 20 minutes.

01:29:57.000 Why did they not return to that post?

01:29:59.000 Do you know that?

01:30:00.000 I do not know, sir.

01:30:01.000 My understanding is that there was a very concerted effort at that point to actively search and locate him and dispel that suspicion.

01:30:09.000 You mentioned that you have asked for, not received, I don't know what you call it, the site plan, but from the Secret Service has not been given to you.

01:30:16.000 Has there been anything else that you've asked for in the course of your investigation that's been denied or made inaccessible to you other than the site plan?

01:30:23.000 Again, I want to be clear.

01:30:25.000 No, I'm not aware of anything else that we've asked for, and we have not been denied.

01:30:29.000 I just believe we haven't received it yet, so I want to make sure I'm not mischaracterizing that we asked for it and we have yet to receive it.

01:30:35.000 We never get denied stuff.

01:30:36.000 We just never get it.

01:30:39.000 My time having expired, I recognize the gentleman from New York, Mr.

01:30:42.000 Lolota.

01:30:42.000 Thank you, Chairman.

01:30:43.000 Colonel, I want to reiterate the appreciation this committee has for your energy, your stamina, your focus, your candor.

01:30:51.000 It's regrettable that some of our federal colleagues are not at the table with you today.

01:30:55.000 We would have liked to extract for them some of the facts from 10 days ago.

01:31:00.000 My colleagues from both sides of the aisle, I think, asked good, fair questions of you, and you gave good, fair, accurate responses to them.

01:31:07.000 That helps us understand July 13th a little more.

01:31:11.000 It was only 10 days ago.

01:31:12.000 We're probably only in the infancy of that investigation of our oversight responsibilities, but you've provided us a lot.

01:31:18.000 I want to use the remainder of my time to look forward.

01:31:21.000 There's going to be a lot of, you know, Conjecture about what happened, who's at fault, but putting that aside.

01:31:28.000 We've talked about flaws that happened on July 13th, be it tactical flaws about communication, strategic ones like lack of drones, administrative ones like command and control and who has what authority, what are the rules of engagement.

01:31:42.000 So I wanted to ask you, Colonel, and it's been said, Pennsylvania is going to have a number of more rallies, appearances, where the public is going to interact with presidential candidates from both sides of the aisle.

01:31:54.000 What are you going to do?

01:31:55.000 How are you going to assert yourself in your leadership role to reduce the likelihood of an incident like this, specifically with respect to tactics?

01:32:03.000 We understand that radio communications were a weakness.

01:32:08.000 Do you have a perspective on looking forward, how you might command your officers in a different manner to ensure that from a tactical perspective, specifically with communications, these events are held differently in the future, sir?

01:32:22.000 So yes, I will start with referring to the testimony of Congressman Luttrell about reinforcing and reiterating to try and mitigate any potential complacency.

01:32:33.000 The Pennsylvania State Police maintains the Pennsylvania Criminal Intelligence Center.

01:32:37.000 We're always trying to lean forward and glean as much criminal intelligence as we can, not only generated within the ranks of the Pennsylvania State Police, but our local partners, our county partners, and then through task force collaborations that we have with multiple federal agencies.

01:32:52.000 I can tell you that we will not back away from the Secret Service.

01:32:56.000 We will lean forward to support them and all of the resources of the Pennsylvania State Police will be brought to bear to keep Pennsylvanians and those visiting the Commonwealth safe.

01:33:06.000 Have you considered communications specifically?

01:33:08.000 Different radios, training on those radios, other communications devices, be it digital or voice or whatever.

01:33:15.000 Have you considered prospectively either acquire new technology, implementing new training, or otherwise developing tactics that allow not only state and local to communicate?

01:33:25.000 Quick announcement, guys.

01:33:27.000 I want you to go on Twitter.

01:33:28.000 If you guys look, Patrick Ben David, right, put out this tweet, right?

01:33:35.000 It says, who would you like to see on the podcast next?

01:33:41.000 Obviously, Myron Gaines and Exodia.

01:33:44.000 So I want you guys to go and like this post right now on X. And I want us to ratio everybody.

01:33:51.000 Okay? 0.97

01:33:51.000 This is, I think, like an ad or some shit like that. 0.97

01:33:53.000 This is like a weird ad. 0.70

01:33:54.000 I don't think this counts.

01:33:55.000 But like, yeah, I want to ratio everybody with the most likes on this.

01:33:59.000 We're already doing pretty damn good, but I want this to have the most likes by far.

01:34:02.000 This already has freaking 513 likes.

01:34:04.000 So go over there.

01:34:06.000 His last tweet, literally like half an hour ago, Who do you want to see next?

01:34:11.000 Boom.

01:34:11.000 Me and Exodia to talk about Israel.

01:34:14.000 So, go ahead.

01:34:16.000 Go over there, guys.

01:34:17.000 Go like it.

01:34:18.000 Let's get that ratio up. 0.89

01:34:19.000 Let's make that clap happen. 0.99

01:34:20.000 ...better with each other, but also that communication to be shared more effectively with your federal partners.

01:34:25.000 I would say in the short term, coming up to the election, we're...

01:34:28.000 This Groovemaster dude hating in the chat.

01:34:30.000 Bro, Nick is my boy, man.

01:34:31.000 I'm always going to put on for my people too, bro.

01:34:33.000 Like, I'm not going to just say, no, put me.

01:34:35.000 Like, no. 0.99

01:34:36.000 It'd be fucking awesome to be me and Nick, dickhead. 1.00

01:34:38.000 So fuck you, man. 1.00

01:34:39.000 You can tell who doesn't have friends. 1.00

01:34:40.000 There's an extreme temporal component there that would make that difficult. 1.00

01:34:43.000 Fucking weirdo, man. 0.99

01:34:44.000 Maintaining critical communications. 1.00

01:34:45.000 You show love to your buddy and dude's got to talk shit. 0.99

01:34:47.000 Investigation of a traffic crash. 1.00

01:34:49.000 Fucking weirdo. 1.00

01:34:49.000 Or a major investigation, a Cavalcante manhunt, an Eric Freen manhunt, a 95 bridge disaster, a... 1.00

01:34:55.000 Ratio, guys, means like when you post something and like it has less views but it has crazy likes, that means like everyone's liking it.

01:35:01.000 And that typically hits the top.

01:35:03.000 A lot of engagement.

01:35:04.000 The derailment of a train on the border with Pennsylvania, a six-hour running gun battle in Juniata County, we're always looking...

01:35:11.000 To get better and communications that we maintain are a critical part of that.

01:35:15.000 We will try to get better.

01:35:18.000 There is something that these future endeavors which we've committed at the top of the testimony to be a part of proves that we can be better.

01:35:26.000 We're always looking every day to get better.

01:35:28.000 I know that members are allowed to, through the appropriations process, advocate for more resources to come to their state and local law enforcement partners for things like communications devices.

01:35:40.000 I know that I've been able to lean into that process here, and I'm sure that Mr.

01:35:44.000 Kelly and others from the Pennsylvania delegation would Endeavor to use federal funds to help augment your ability to increase your ability to communicate among each other and also with federal partners.

01:35:54.000 I want to move to strategy.

01:35:56.000 Thinking a little more outside the bubble in the days and weeks leading up to an event.

01:36:01.000 Colonel, do you have a sense on prospectively technology that you use, like drones, other decisions you might make, like stationing somebody on a nearby high...

01:36:10.000 Also, just explain ratio again.

01:36:11.000 Like, look, so...

01:36:13.000 PBD puts the thing out, right?

01:36:15.000 1.3k likes.

01:36:16.000 If we hit 1.3 and he has 149k views, we only have 4.9k views.

01:36:21.000 See the point?

01:36:22.000 So we have almost not even a tenth of the engagement, but over half the likes.

01:36:29.000 Look, we already beat them for the retweeting.

01:36:31.000 So that's the ratio.

01:36:32.000 That's what I mean with ratio, guys.

01:36:34.000 2.7k comments, right?

01:36:36.000 So we need to get this higher than this because his engagement is 5.3 and it's just climbing.

01:36:45.000 So that's what I mean, guys, when he gets his engagement because he's going to hit the top of his thing. 0.97

01:36:48.000 He's like, damn, this is what the people want. 0.93

01:36:50.000 Vantage Point, Leica Water Tower, you've heard some feedback from some informed members here today. 0.97

01:36:54.000 Are those things helpful for you to plan moving forward to seize opportunities, both technological and physical, for events moving forward?

01:37:02.000 Short answer is yes.

01:37:03.000 You know, our undercover assets and the surveillance and intelligence gathering is something we rely on heavily.

01:37:09.000 We do have Some drone capabilities that we're always looking to augment, but they're a phenomenal tool and certainly their use will only expand into the future, probably long after my career and somebody who comes well after.

01:37:21.000 But we're always looking to lean forward and do the job better.

01:37:24.000 And the text message was sent to, was there any comment or discussion in the command center about the advisability of Keeping the president off the stage until the matter was resolved, either at that moment or later.

01:37:41.000 I do not know, and I would only underscore what I said before, the distinction between suspicion versus a threat.

01:37:49.000 At that point, I think concerning, but it was still, the perspective at the time was suspicious and not yet a threat.

01:38:00.000 How did...

01:38:02.000 So...

01:38:05.000 The information was relayed from ESU officers to a PSP officer.

01:38:13.000 Do I understand that correct?

01:38:14.000 Yes.

01:38:15.000 Did ESU have command officers in the command center?

01:38:21.000 That was asked earlier, and like I said, I received a briefing that my understanding was that there were Butler County representatives in the command post, but I cannot definitively tell you from any briefings that I've had who and when they were there.

01:38:37.000 Do you have any insight why the Butler ESU officers transmitted that information to a PSP representative rather than to a Butler ESU representative in the command center?

01:38:48.000 I understand that there was a The Butler-ESU person from whom it came and the PSP member to whom it was sent, they essentially knew one another.

01:39:01.000 Was there any mechanism in place To monitor the location presence of the ESU officers who were at the second floor window and departed from there to go look for crooks.

01:39:16.000 Was that any kind of communication ongoing in the command center about that?

01:39:20.000 I don't know.

01:39:27.000 Is that a regular practice in PSP operations to have someone monitoring the location presence, posting, absence from posts of members of your force?

01:39:40.000 I would say, in general, you need to know where your assets are deployed, but I would also say, depending on what the prior rules of engagement are, there may be a situation that could realistically, outside of the example we're discussing today, that we would expect our people to make a And a decision in the immediate moment to address another issue.

01:40:08.000 All right.

01:40:09.000 I yield back and recognize the gentleman from California, Mr.

01:40:12.000 Correa, for five minutes.

01:40:14.000 Thank you, Mr.

01:40:15.000 Chairman.

01:40:16.000 Again, gentlemen, thank you for being here.

01:40:20.000 Something Mr.

01:40:21.000 Lalota said that I want to emphasize and underline, which is Gentlemen, I hope you lean forward when it comes to making decisions, making what your gut tells you is the right decision when you're out there trying to protect American lives,

01:40:36.000 especially those of candidates.

01:40:40.000 The situation is an interesting one because in this committee, we have been talking about domestic terrorism as being a bigger threat to the United States than foreign terrorism.

01:40:52.000 And I would imagine, based on the facts that we know him today, this is a domestic individual that God knows what motivated him to do what he's doing.

01:41:06.000 He was looking up information according to what I've read.

01:41:11.000 He was looking up both Democrat and Republican candidates.

01:41:14.000 God knows what set him off or where he was going.

01:41:18.000 Or what targets he was really focused on, other than possibly the opportunity.

01:41:24.000 This is not good news because this is essentially a lone wolf, it would appear.

01:41:30.000 It just...

01:41:31.000 God knows what motivated him.

01:41:33.000 And I'm bringing this up because, Mr.

01:41:36.000 Yost, you represent thousands of police officers in this country.

01:41:40.000 A lot of them doing the job to the best of their abilities.

01:41:46.000 And yet, these are challenges that are very hard to take on.

01:41:52.000 How do you...

01:41:54.000 I mean, based on what your officers say out there, what is it that we can do to make your job better?

01:42:01.000 What is it that we can do to begin to get a grip on these lone wolf attacks that are domestically motivated and grown?

01:42:11.000 Sir, I'm not too sure.

01:42:12.000 I have an easy answer for you on that one.

01:42:15.000 I will tell you that we live in extraordinary times right now where we've gone from talking to people to talking at people.

01:42:23.000 And I think what you see over a period of time, this has eroded to a part where... 0.98

01:42:29.000 Guys, I'm going to go to fucking sleep. 0.98

01:42:30.000 This guy, these dudes, number one, they're dragging this. 0.99

01:42:34.000 The state police guy doesn't have answers for anything real. 0.99

01:42:37.000 It's like, bro, you got to talk to the fucking FBI. We need to talk to the FBI. We got to know what the hell's going on in the investigation. 0.99

01:42:42.000 That's going to be what really happens.

01:42:44.000 So that's what I want to see.

01:42:46.000 Guys, do me a favor.

01:42:46.000 Go like the video on YouTube.

01:42:48.000 Alright, I'm on the stream there.

01:42:49.000 Just gave you guys a bonus one, dude. 0.89

01:42:50.000 I'm fucking still haven't slept yet. 0.90

01:42:51.000 I'm a little bit delirious. 0.98

01:42:53.000 It's 2.26 in the afternoon.

01:42:54.000 I haven't slept since last night.

01:42:56.000 But I'll definitely do an episode when the FBI comes in.

01:43:00.000 I'm going to live stream that.

01:43:01.000 So stay tuned, guys.

01:43:02.000 We'll cover this hearing because they're going to be interviewing a bunch of people.

01:43:05.000 Love y'all ninjas.

01:43:06.000 We'll be back on FedReacts maybe this week.

01:43:10.000 Maybe this week.

01:43:11.000 And love you guys.

01:43:12.000 Peace.

Fresh & Fit - July 23, 2024

EMERGENCY BROADCAST: USSS Director Cheatle resigns & Police Testimony on Trump Assassination

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