After Hours with Enzo, Liz, and Zayna. We talk about how to be a man in the 21st century, what it's like to be in the medical field, and dating in the modern times.
00:47:18.000Okay, so every time that I'm with a woman and they're on their period, I all of a sudden every time you don't, listen, you're thinking about how many times you do.
00:47:26.000But every time you don't, you don't say anything.
01:03:11.000I mean, when you grow up broke as fuck, not knowing when like your next meal is going to be like, I didn't grow up in a household where my shit was taken.
01:03:55.000And so that's when I was like, dude, I can't do this.
01:03:57.000Like, I was nine to 21, like barely turned 21.
01:04:00.000I was like, dude, what the fuck am I doing?
01:04:02.000So got my shit together, but I will say, like, at the end of the day, I'm not part of what I do, never have been.
01:04:10.000But when you kind of blow up that fast and it's like that quick cash, and it's like, dude, you're going from literally nothing to absolutely 10K, 15K a month.
01:04:19.000Like, it's hard to, hard to kind of, it's an addiction at some point.
01:04:23.000But I mean, if you're good at what you do, then you blow up.
01:05:27.000Like I do a lot of the media for like a lot of parties and stuff, which is, and honestly, I won't lie, yeah, it's what I love to do because I was always a party girl.
01:05:35.000I love being at, you know, the big atmosphere, a lot of people, a lot of music, a lot of the record a lot for our basil?
01:06:41.000Like every one to two years, I would move to a different state and then I would go back and forth from Germany to the U.S. Military parents?
01:11:00.000I would say, like, yeah, obviously they deserve respect because there becomes, you know, a multitude of standards: do you have the financial income to be able to support yourself as well as a child?
01:11:10.000Do you have any other independent family that could help you in supporting the child?
01:11:15.000So I think, like, it really comes down to do you have the accessibility to the resources needed to raise a child?
01:11:24.000If so, then, yeah, it it probably shouldn't be done.
01:11:28.000If you don't, then I fully agree with doing so.
01:11:34.000If I was, at this day and age, if I was like to become pregnant, I probably would if I had the accessibility to do so, because I don't have the funds.
01:11:44.000i eat at mcdonald's almost every other day because i am like me does not pay very well it does not yeah i know and i'm working my way up to kind of like getting into it I just graduated, so I'm still like putting myself into the industry.
01:11:59.000So I'm still working towards being able to have like a good source of income as far as like that source.
01:12:04.000You know, you live in Miami or do you live somewhere else?
01:12:38.000So that's what I also had a privilege of going for free because University of Miami is literally the most expensive school in the nation now.
01:13:05.000Because I think it comes to a standard of: are you abusing it because you can, or is it something of a resource that you're actually using because you don't have any other option?
01:13:15.000If you really don't have the funds to be able to support yourself, or if you're like even in a health situation where like you may risk your own health giving birth, then obviously I think that's where it would be deserving of respect versus you just kind of being like, fuck it, I'm not going to use a condom because I want to get cummed in, whatever.
01:15:53.000Like, I feel like if you genuinely open your legs and you know, like, like me, I'm not on birth control and you let somebody come on you like openly, like, that's on you.
01:22:49.000I look up on what I do because compared to what I would have done five, six years ago, selling drugs, giving myself up as prostitution, that's way worse than what I'm doing now.
01:29:52.000And when they got old, they were still loved and cherished.
01:29:57.000The women that's in the streets, that's just, you know, doing their thing and all that shit, and not having a true relationship with a strong man, a lot of you going to die depressed.
01:30:16.000I just mentioned this earlier, that women, the suicide rate is just rising.
01:30:22.000Because women were never meant to be afraid for women or men.
01:37:37.000Like I said, I'm not speaking off of just thought.
01:37:40.000From a blueprint, second of all, most women, like you said, that don't want to be barefoot and pregnant, don't want to be with men because, guess what, they don't have emotions.
01:37:52.000And women nowadays are kind of tired of that.
01:40:04.000It's the same thing if you want to even say about race and stuff like that, how some races are ahead of others because they had a head start.
01:40:11.000Don't sit here and tell me that women hasn't invented stuff because women didn't have the same head start as men did.
01:40:36.000And then Enzo was saying, as women have acquired more rights and privileges, society is degraded from that.
01:40:44.000And then you're saying, no, I disagree with that, XYZ.
01:40:47.000I don't think you got to really say what you wanted to say.
01:40:49.000So can you explain what your because your argument is that you think things have gotten better since women have gotten more rights and privileges, right?
01:41:16.000I think if we're going back to the question, yes, I think women that get an abortion should be respected because at the end of the day, completely taking abortion away.
01:42:27.000I think when they're not, I'm not happy.
01:42:31.000I think a woman is happier when she's not being told what to do from a man and that she has to stay home and be barefoot and pregnant and she can't go out and have her own job and do her own things.
01:42:42.000I think a woman is happy to speak about a situation where I heard her speaking.
01:42:48.000I would say that like the independence that we have now so much as like careers go.
01:42:53.000Because even for myself, I'm not in the adult industry, but I do a lot of like the media.
01:43:00.000And so when I am able to go to the bottom of the world, I like it.
01:43:07.000When I'm able to go to like an event and I'm just enjoying myself and I'm, you know, filming and photographing the entire event the, the crowd the, the producers, the DJs and I'm having the time of my life, I think I guess like yeah, without rights or whatever.
01:43:23.000As far as career goes, I wouldn't be seen in that type of industry that's.
01:43:27.000That's not a position I would have been seen in 20 plus years ago.
01:43:31.000It would have been a man's job to be holding the camera.
01:43:34.000But I, I have so much fun doing it and I really enjoy the career that I've been able to build for myself.
01:43:40.000And I think it's one of those things where yeah, as far as for a women's perspective, I love what I do.
01:43:45.000And even after the event and I'm going home and I'm like looking through my pictures, I'm sitting like fuck yeah, I got like such a good shot here.
01:43:52.000And I'm going through my videos and I'm like oh, this is such a good clip, and so I think it's one of those things where it's like, as far as maybe not rights so much, but just like as far as careers go, I so much enjoy what I do and I'd be being able to have that career.
01:44:21.000Didn't you just say, you have a choice, but when it's for you, you gotta make it.
01:44:25.000Only fans, because I think, like for me right, women will be broke and love their job.
01:44:30.000A man will take a job that pays him so much and hate his fucking job and then hate his life and then blame it on the system for the family, but once again, a family that you wanted.
01:44:39.000Didn't you then say, you went to work because your girl said she wanted to work.
01:45:15.000Currently I'm poor, but I'm 23, I get your parents help you with your bills.
01:45:19.000Yeah, I'm very, very nice and I don't take any like anything away from that.
01:45:25.000I'm very privileged and the fact that they do help me right now, because I did just graduate about four months ago.
01:45:31.000I've only been in the industry for four months, but I'm already building that, I'm holding those connections, I'm networking with everybody that I interact with, and even being here on the podcast today, you know, it's like hey, if you guys need a photographer, hit a statue.
01:45:42.000Yeah, like I'll do a shoot, because it's one of those things where it's like, I love the industry I'm in, and so now I just need to be able to build a career out of it and, of course, it takes time.
01:45:51.000I do work on the side, I do DoorDash, like when I can just to like make those extra money for bills and whatnot, but photography and videography is what I do genuinely love to do.
01:46:00.000So it's being able to build my own career, apart from being, you know, like here's my degree, here's what I did, here's what I do now and here's what I can do.
01:46:09.000Yeah, so being able to kind of follow suit with that and getting into an actual career, not just, you know, part-time jobs.
01:46:18.000But she's arguing that women are happier now than before and would you be happy to have rights.
01:46:24.000So it's like, in the sense of like having rights yeah, I wouldn't be able to do that, like I'm happier by myself.
01:46:31.000You're saying you would be happier if you had a man taking care of you and you're barefoot and pregnant, to be honest, man of change, to be able to do something that I genuinely the men that you hang out with, but the media industry is something I don't know.
01:48:07.000If you're not going to get shit done, it's not that I left you.
01:48:10.000It's the fact that when you are a masculine woman and you're a person that's going to get shit done and take care of your family, that's when a man is out the door and being a bitch.
01:48:30.000I would be for a woman's power is diminished when she stands up and wants to be the one that's making all the fucking shots and all the calls.
01:50:44.000Okay, what about the men that, like, okay, when you said the reverse roles, like now in society, there's like men that stay at home and don't work and they depend on the woman.
01:56:06.000Yeah, it's like if you're going to be if you're going to be acting more on a masculine side, you're not going to be able to get a masculine man to come towards you.
01:56:20.000If you want the type of man that is willing to go out of their way to support you and be not just a boyfriend, but a husband, that's what you're looking for.
01:56:29.000And that's why I go to like, oh, well, what if he does something wrong?
01:56:31.000Well, if you're cheating, you're cheating.
01:57:00.000So like respect the boundaries in the relationship.
01:57:03.000If you genuinely love somebody and have a full-on relationship with somebody in not just a sense of a commitment, but of actual love and care for someone, you wouldn't want to do that.
01:57:14.000You wouldn't ever feel comfortable doing anything of that sort, even entertaining it at any point.
01:57:20.000That would make you feel uncomfortable.
01:57:22.000That sounds nice on paper, but for men, it's different.
01:57:24.000Yeah, I'm like, I know, and that's what I don't view it as.
01:57:27.000Obviously, being a woman, I view it as a sense of I wouldn't do that.
01:57:39.000It's about if you know that I view it as disrespect.
01:57:42.000If you know it, that I would view it as being hurt by that.
01:57:45.000If you genuinely loved me and you wouldn't want to hurt me, you wouldn't do something like that.
01:57:50.000Because it's as human being to me, it doesn't matter what gender you are when it comes to the music.
01:57:56.000If it's an amazing nature, if you can do something sexual with any emotional connection whatsoever, it doesn't matter because if you knew it was something that would hurt me, why would you put it in the middle of the morning?
01:58:06.000Wait, who at this table had a guy cheat on him?
01:58:40.000Y'all expect a woman to have all these, I don't know, responsibilities as a woman, you know, childbearer, you know, house taker care of or whatever the fuck.
01:58:51.000And then y'all can't even, you know, have the respect to be like, you know, hold a girl down.
02:00:36.000What you're saying is, I understand that, but you're giving a woman's point of view based on a whole nother animalistic, animalistic desire.
02:01:04.000So then, would you say that you become a certain age and you gain that discipline to maybe appreciate something in a sexual nature and be able to view something?
02:02:31.000And so I was like, okay, well, I don't really know how to feel about this because now I'm slowly starting to devalue myself in this relationship because I have so much love and consideration for you that I wouldn't do this.
02:03:16.000Eventually get to the mic sorry eventually, at the end of the relationship?
02:03:19.000Yeah, like anything, eventually I did end up ending it, And you know what's sad, though, A lot of times a woman will leave a guy just to go to another guy that's going to do the same thing.
02:04:40.000Maybe because I've you gotta wait till you're like 30-something for that shit.
02:04:44.000And that's why I said, like, oh, you know, I stayed around and I wanted things to, you know, like, hey, I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that you made a mistake.
02:05:27.000Not to ramble, but more so end-all-be-all is just, yeah, obviously you want to have a man who's successful and you want to have a man who's providing for you.
02:05:35.000And so for you could be the submissive nature that you want to be.
02:05:40.000We live in a day and age where it's very, it's very hard to do.
02:06:25.000As I've been sitting here listening to this conversation, it really made me realize why we need to take women's rights away and why you guys need to go back to being with why, right?
02:06:41.000So she asked the question before: why are the birth rates low?
02:07:35.000How is it that women graduate college at a higher rate than men do?
02:07:39.000They attend college at a higher rate than men do.
02:07:41.000We know that college university education is one of the highest predictors of income and being able to do things, yet they still don't build things.
02:07:51.000They still don't keep infrastructure going.
02:07:52.000Why is it that men dominate all the blue-collar jobs, all the jobs that have to do with STEM, science, and technology, engineering, math?
02:07:58.000Despite the fact that women are more educated than ever before, they have more money than they've ever had before, more recent than ever they've ever had before.
02:08:04.000They still have high depression rates, higher ratings of being assigned suicide, being on SSRIs, being diagnosed with depression.
02:08:13.000Why are female approval ratings in the fucking shitter as they've gained more rights and privileges?
02:08:37.000Is it fair to say that you're only pursuing your career now to take care of your children?
02:08:41.000No, I would still pursue my career with my kids.
02:08:44.000You're saying a big reason why you work so hard the way that you do, and you probably work when you don't want to, is to be able to provide for your children, correct?
02:08:53.000I do what I like, so I do it because I like it.
02:09:25.000I paid a little attention to everything you said.
02:09:26.000Earlier, you said that you got rid of your guy because he wasn't able to provision for you long term.
02:09:30.000So what it really comes down to is you understand that to take care of your children as a means to an end, you must pursue and make money and take care of your children, which is fine.
02:09:43.000If you had the ability to have a guy that took care of you, right, so that you wouldn't have to worry about a career, you would focus more on your kids.
02:10:20.000And it's not until you guys get older and later on in life when your ability to attract men kind of, you know, dissipates that you realize, oh, damn, what am I doing?
02:11:35.000You guys like choice when you can abort the baby or decide to be a mom.
02:11:38.000You guys like choice when you could choose to vote or not choose to vote, even though you guys don't deserve the right to vote either, to be honest with you.
02:11:44.000Women like choice and like having rights for things that they don't even have access to or exercise.
02:11:51.000How many times is it that women will sit there and say, I'm pro-life, I'm pro-life.
02:11:54.000But then when they go vote, who do they vote for?
02:11:56.000They go vote for a Democrat that's going to allow for abortion, even though they might not believe in it.
02:12:00.000Because the problem with women is you guys will fight for rights you won't even utilize because you guys feel as though we want to be able to reserve the right to be able to change our mind at any time.
02:12:36.000This is why society thrived for so long.
02:12:38.000If you guys think about it, human innovation really blew up when men were the ones running everything, men were leading everything, because we now have to listen to female opinions and everything else like that.
02:12:45.000Because once you bring women in, they bring their emotions.
02:12:48.000They want equality, but they don't necessarily contribute half.
02:12:53.000Humanity progressed the most when women shut the fuck up and weren't involved in serious decision-making, right?
02:12:59.000If you look at a lot of these countries that are our adversaries, Russia, China, Iran, et cetera, a lot of these countries that don't have feminism or whatever, why are they progressing so fast?
02:13:10.000Why are they starting to get nuclear weapons?
02:13:12.000They're moving further than us because we have a democracy.
02:13:14.000We have women that have a fucking voice in things and giving their opinions as if it matters.
02:13:18.000The reality is human beings progress way faster and way further when we didn't have women getting involved.
02:13:24.000Now, over the past 60 years, since the explosion of feminism, what's happened?
02:13:28.000We've slowed down in our progression because women get involved and they think that their opinion matters and we're equal and we want to be able to be involved.
02:13:35.000But the reality is you guys don't contribute half.
02:13:37.000You guys say you contribute half, but you really don't.
02:13:40.000Men control all the infrastructure in society.
02:13:42.000If men were disappeared, the world would be cooked.
02:13:46.000If we had to rely on female ingenuity, we'd still be rubbing sticks together for fire.
02:14:28.000So I would say feminism is the main root cause of all of the societal problems that we have, which is a Jewish construct, by the way.
02:14:35.000But yeah, feminism led to liberalism, which has led to egalitarianism and all the fucking issues that we have that come from the left and this progressiveness.
02:15:18.000Honestly, I'm a divine feminine, and I believe wholeheartedly everything that you had said earlier.
02:15:24.000And it's so sad to honestly see how these responses are coming out from you guys and not appreciate being in a presence of an actual, like masculine man and learning that relationship and learning how to be with one, because it completely changes your mindset and women are so emotional and a masculine is so logical based, and when you're in their presence and you're in the relationship with them, it's a whole different experience.
02:15:53.000Not to disagree with anything you guys have said, it's just a whole different experience and that's just my opinion.
02:15:58.000I agree and that's why I have not jumped to any of these conversations is because it's just not for me.
02:16:03.000And you know it's interesting because what feminism is, feminism feminism has done is like it's even the playing field where everyone is equal, but like now that everyone is equal right, you ladies have to fight for a guy who's going to be able to actually support you and take care of you, because only a minority men can do it now.
02:17:08.000But only we only let women get away with that, and i'll tell you guys why, because you guys are overgrown children.
02:17:13.000In my opinion facts I think giving women's right, women rights and abilities and access has created a lot of the societal problems that we have, because when you guys do get the rights and the abilities, you guys behave like children, you when it when it suits you.
02:19:58.000Honestly, unfortunately, I did just homework sometimes.
02:20:01.000But, you know, he was working full-time.
02:20:03.000So I was trying to be as supportive as I could.
02:20:06.000And even though I was trying to be the, I guess, the support, the feminine energy in the relationship that was, you know, I guess would be assumed of me, there was still that infidelity.
02:20:17.000So I then unfortunately did feel unloved and not enough.
02:20:22.000And so I did end up separating myself.
02:20:32.000If you got a guy that checks all your boxes off, right?
02:20:35.000If he checks all your boxes off and the only thing is he has sex with another girl, well, news flash, just like Enzo said, the next guy you get is probably going to have sex with another girl too.
02:20:43.000Listen, just get even without them knowing.
02:21:53.000In these conversations, there's no yin and yang at all.
02:21:58.000You want, you are, you're calling women stupid for this and that and for having rights when it's just like, that's a, at the end of the day, that's a human being.
02:24:42.000When I was in school to be a therapist, and even now when I do therapist sessions and stuff, because you can still be a counselor, all my patients were men and they didn't give a fuck about what I had to do.
02:24:54.000You're flicking hard as fuck right now, man.
02:27:37.000No, and we're going to talk about same career in a second, but what I'm saying is what you're referencing when you say women make less, you're using a faulty study of all working men versus all working women, full-time employees on both sides.
02:27:46.000The reason why women earn less is because of things I told you.
02:27:49.000It doesn't account for job work, education, type of industry, experience, none of this stuff.
02:28:04.000This was replicated with Google, and women earn more than the men, even though they have the same exact backgrounds and the women earn more.
02:28:11.000So when you actually compare apples to apples, women make more.
02:28:13.000The reason why women in general make less is because women go into job fields that pay less a lot of times.
02:28:18.000Social services, they go into job fields that pay less in general because they want to be social workers, all this stuff.
02:29:32.000How would men be able to get paid more than women when there's literally labor laws from the 1970s that make it illegal to pay someone less based on their gender?
02:30:32.000As a matter of fact, I'll take it a step further.
02:30:35.000As a female, because they've done studies on this too, if you have a woman put in a resume, she's going to get way more callbacks for a job, especially a STEM job, than a man will.
02:30:47.000So women have more opportunity to make more money than ever before.
02:30:52.000Women have more opportunity now than men do.
02:30:54.000So not only can you guys go ahead and decide to be a housewife if you want, you guys can also go ahead and pursue an education and get a job in an industry that's male-dominated because of affirmative action.
02:31:02.000So women earn less now because they fucking deserve less.
02:38:08.000The reason why I have those world views, and I say the things that I say is because I think men should be providers.
02:38:12.000I don't think men should be allowing a woman to work because when they work, they tend to pick up very negative, unattractive masculine traits.
02:38:20.000They think that it's okay to talk back to you.
02:38:21.000They think that they're equal to you, etc.
02:38:23.000The only way to create that polarity between you and your woman is you need to be the provider so she can be inner feminine, shut the fuck up, and not be annoying.
02:38:29.000Now, as you guys can see, some of the ladies here at the table have picked up these masculine tendencies because they have to go out there in the world and fight and earn an income.
02:38:36.000And that is, I would argue it, the fault of the man.
02:38:39.000The woman shouldn't be being like this.
02:38:41.000Now, with that said, since I have this worldview that men are supposed to be protectors, providers, and leaders, I don't look at women as equals.
02:38:50.000And the reason why I look at you guys' support is that because I look at it like it is my duty to take care of the woman and she should be able to do what she needs to do and I do what I need to do.
02:41:18.000But I do think also that women need to be honest with themselves and understand that there's nothing wrong with dating guy that could provide for you.
02:41:27.000But at the same time, he's going to want something in return.
02:41:29.000And that is going to be silence, not being annoying, not talking back, submission, et cetera.
02:41:33.000And the problem is that a lot of women think that they're equal to men and they could talk to him any kind of way and blah, blah, blah.
02:41:38.000I mean, look, you're talking to a multi-millionaire or fucking billionaire this way.
02:41:41.000I could only imagine what that dude was in hearing.
02:52:22.000Let me put this in a way that you'll, let me get, because I've noticed women, it's very difficult for you guys to understand unless I put it in another phrase.
02:52:29.000Let's say I'm a homeless guy that fucking panhandles in front of 7-Eleven, right?
02:56:10.000A girl can literally be retarded, not interesting, not have anything to her name, but still get a guy who's very attractive.
02:56:18.000A man, on the other hand, has to provide value to get any type of attention.
02:56:22.000So I'm not telling you that men aren't delusional, but what I am saying is that men get hit way harder with reality than women do because women can kind of coast on their looks and there's no burden performance on women.
02:57:09.000Like, the fact that you can't see the difference and delusional with men versus women and how one side is literally systemic and it's creating long-term problems for you guys for marriage and relationships versus on the other hand, it's not to the same level whatsoever.
02:57:23.000Like we don't have guys crying in cars saying, oh, I don't got a bad bitch, even though I'm a brokey.
02:57:27.000Nigga, we know why you don't have a bad lonely parent with women.
02:57:30.000They don't know why they don't have a guy.
02:58:56.000This is the difference between men and women.
02:58:57.000Remember how I said men, you know, come up with fixes to their problems and men are, you know, they come up with ingenuity, all this other stuff.
02:59:03.000AI and robots, sex robots, are coming.
03:00:32.000And this mindset that you have is precisely why so many women are going to continue to be depressed with this rambunctious, rude, disrespectful, dismissive attitude.
03:05:34.000No, no one ever talks about how men get destroyed in the family courts when they get all the money to get all the alimony to get the children, all that other stuff.
03:05:40.000Hell, your guy probably took a big fucking L with you with the kids.
03:05:58.000I'm not disputing the fact that it's not easy.
03:06:00.000What I'm saying is that you will probably more than likely, statistically speaking, beat him in everything if you guys went to family court.
03:10:52.000But you didn't reverse it the other way around to figure out that all of them, probably you too, have broken up with a man way more than the other way around.
03:11:13.000I didn't leave with my guy because of money.
03:11:15.000Bro, I listened to you in the beginning literally allude to the fact that there were financial issues and he wasn't doing his part financially, which is why you left him.
03:11:21.000But you want to sit here and fucking lie to us.
03:13:26.000Because what you don't realize, I've been paying very close attention to everything you've said throughout the podcast, and you switch up what you're saying, and you try to switch things up when you're confronted on it.
03:13:33.000And I've caught on to that very quickly.
03:14:54.000So I guess from a men's perspective, when it comes to, you know, not looking at financial income, not looking at, you know, what the woman has to offer, the man has to offer.
03:15:05.000I guess just in general, when it comes to a healthy relationship, what is to be perceived from the man from the woman's side?
03:15:15.000What do we want from the woman's side?
03:24:24.000A masculine man and basically, like knowing how to take care of a feminine woman and somebody that's looking to be in her feminine energy and do exactly what she needs to do and not complain, not at a take lead.