Enzo Weinberg Interview
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1 hour and 26 minutes
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136.70638
Summary
On this episode of the Fresh Way Podcast, we have a guest on the show, Enzo "Don't Tell Gold" Arc. Enzo talks about his early life growing up in the streets of Houston, Texas and how he went on to become a thief at the age of 14. He also talks about how he became a millionaire at 16 years old.
Transcript
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If you can't be needing, I will never tell the silence.
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It's been a while since we've done one of these, but we got an OG in the house for you guys today.
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And I might do a debate thing in January as well, a debate con or something like that.
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Well, we're working on locking it in, but yeah.
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But yeah, that's what we got going on right now.
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And then January, mid-January will be in Michigan.
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I'm just a young man that's trying to make it, trying to survive, trying to count my pennies.
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It's funny because he's a very quiet person, but has a lot of stories to tell.
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So let's go back in time to your childhood coming up, music industry, stuff like that.
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You want me to give him the good stuff or the bad stuff?
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You got Rumble, so you can say anything on this platform.
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In my neighborhood, I was one of the few who had a dad at home.
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And my old man would not let my mother get on welfare because we was broke as hell.
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And the one thing he would not tolerate in his house is anybody being a bitch, especially a man.
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Houston, Texas, Fifth Ward, north side of Houston.
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And, you know, when the 80s hit, you know, everybody turned into drug dealers because that was the money, you know.
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I seen all the money my friends were making, but I went another route.
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And he gave me an opportunity to become a millionaire at 14 years old.
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I didn't know I would end up, you know, making money like that, but I went for it.
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And what he said up, he said, if you can steal certain cars and take the parts off, I would pay you a certain amount.
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So I caught the bus, went to a junkyard, and started teaching myself how to steal cars.
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First car I ever stole, it was at a half a second.
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And what the guy would do in Port of Texas, I would strip the car down and he would take the parts and sell it right back to General Motors.
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And he wanted a young guy he can pay low wages to.
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I would get, you know, anywhere from like $700 to $1,000 a car.
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And I got so good at it, I had to get my own warehouse.
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Port of Texas and Umbled, Texas is right outside of Houston.
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By the time I turned 16 years old, I had 30 old men working for me.
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I had two houses and a bunch of cars and a bunch of hates.
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So, but you know what happens in the hood, crabs in a bucket.
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If one dude is coming up and it creates enemies, you know.
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So by the time I turned 18, I was already shot twice, once in the face.
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This dude, one dude shot me in the face, and I literally bled to death and I was life-flighted.
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You know, it's not like we were sitting chilling.
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But I went from that to questioning because I was in, man, I've been in about 11 shootouts.
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Even at one point, this dude was trying to kill me and he ran up on me.
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The dudes in the hood, they don't oil their guns.
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And I told God, I said, you know, that's all I know.
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You know, and I prayed and I said, if you get me out of this, I'll stop doing what I was doing.
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That's another thing about the guys you meet today.
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Everybody snakes, everybody snitch, everybody do whatever it takes to get money or feel good.
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Even to this day, I've never drunk, never been high.
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So I got out of that situation and I kept my word.
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And that's how I ended up in the music aspect of it.
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I'm one of the pioneers of what they call now Christian hip-hop because I would rap and talk about my problems.
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And I got sucked into that system as long as that lasted.
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Because at church world, y'all, a couple of times I was going to whoop some pastors.
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I'm like, man, I'm over here trying to serve God, but I ain't trying to be nobody's bitch.
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There was a story you told, I don't know if you can say it on air, about when the pastor was trying to get with your wife or something like that.
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I was trying to figure out how I was going to survive without being a criminal.
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Because my whole life I hustled on the streets.
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So, and my wife, we would leave church and she would always act nervous.
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So one day she was afraid because she knew me from the streets.
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So she told me, she says, look, you know, the pastor's hitting on me because she knew to old me.
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And the assistant pastor told her to divorce me because I didn't have no money.
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So the one thing about me, man, no matter how mad I get, even to this day, upset, people try to do me wrong.
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You know how some people just black out and go for it?
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I'll fuck you up through strategies, but I'm not going to hurt myself while I'm hurting you.
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So I wanted to kill them, to be honest with you.
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They messed with my only little wife and all this stuff.
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They talking bad about me in the church as they pray for people, the old ladies.
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The old you would smoke them, dudes, straight up.
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I didn't want to be like them so bad because they fake.
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I started washing their cars, like admiring like shit.
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I started washing their cars and stuff, packing their briefcases.
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I swear, knowing that they lying, they fake, and all this other stuff.
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And then boom, my music just started taking off.
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Like all this, when I found out they was doing that to me, it took probably like eight months.
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And I started getting bookings, started putting out records, all this stuff.
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As fast forward, a couple of years later, after that, a friend of mine was performing at this church.
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And the assistant pastor, they don't know I know they were, what they were doing.
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If I was fake like y'all, both of y'all asses will be dead.
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Yeah, I know about what you told my wife, what you've been doing.
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They all freaking out going back like that because they cowards.
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Yeah, unfortunately, a lot of them are cowards.
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So it was like a year from when you found out to when you confronted them on it?
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A lot of the pastors that you see today are being pushed by an agenda.
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They're getting like a lot of things to do because they've been told to by sponsors and donors, but they don't even follow the Bible.
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And that's kind of what got me away from the church and finding out who I really was because my wife, you know, I stacked a whole lot of money and she divorced me.
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So all these women start coming out of nowhere trying to marry me, right?
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They knew I was famous, had money, or whatever.
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And this one particular pastor, I won't say his name, his daughter liked me.
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So he kept calling me to the house, all this stuff, doing shows.
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I'm like, man, I can't do no more concerts at your church.
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He had a beautiful wife, but his daughter looked like him.
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Hey, I've done a lot of things in my life, but I've never done ugly.
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I have never been with an ugly woman in my life, bro.
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Every woman you've ever seen me with has been beautiful from day one.
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And to give, you know, give cadence, give truth to that situation.
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I met some real good preachers who really loved people and wanted to help their community.
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So then I went out into the world and started producing records and ghost producing and things like that.
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And that's how I found out all the other talents I had.
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You know, the talents I have with money and my discipline and all this other stuff and how money worked.
00:32:20.000
Let's say I want to get the music industry, right?
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How would someone get into the industry to think now?
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Because obviously there's a lot more people things going on way harder.
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How would somebody start in the music industry now?
00:32:33.000
I think the best way right now is to build your fan base.
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I don't care if it's two people who like your stuff.
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Make sure you keep those people happy and just build around that.
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If you have your own fan base, then no major label and nobody can control you.
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And when people believe in your music, they believe in you and they support that.
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You know, sell t-shirts, sell hats, sell the music, the merchandise, do small concerts, all of that.
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You know, back in the day, it was all about getting hot and a DJ blowing you up.
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You ain't shit unless you're online and you're hot online.
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You know, if you get some money and you get a feature, this is a mistake a lot of street dudes make.
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And then they end up like shooting up somebody's tour van.
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But what they do, they'll get some money and they'll get a real, real hot artist to do a feature.
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They'll shoot a video, even pay them to shoot to be in the video as well.
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But what happens when they try to upload that song on one of these streaming sites?
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Cease and desist from the label because they didn't get clearance.
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So they didn't spend that 20 grand, 50 grand, 100, it happens all the time.
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And that's why they show up in that city with 200,000 security because they know they didn't screw it over a lot of people.
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And they don't even warn that person that, hey, just so you know, this is going to come down the line when you try to.
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It's just so many weak people in the world and there's so many weak men.
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Because the artist is getting the money, so he don't care.
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They ain't even thinking about tomorrow, what they can bring.
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Now, people I know, some people I know in Texas, that'll be the last set of money you ever take.
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But I would say, man, build up a fan base, be original.
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They stand there and grab their dick and look at your girlfriend and just, you know, missing lyrics and everything.
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It ain't, the music industry, man, is missing so much stuff.
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So if you get out there and you authentic and you really touching people, like right now, it's a lot of people that are suffering trying to pay bills and things of that nature.
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And you getting on there talking, aha, I got all this money, bitch, you broke and all this other stuff.
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What happens too, they come in a city, like, and them broke boys been the back of the club while you got all this stuff and you snatching their girlfriends and shit.
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And we've seen it over and over and over again.
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And another thing is I tell dudes who love the music aspect of it, don't do no street shit.
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Because that street shit has death tied all around it.
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I mean, you talking about death, death going to come to you.
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And I know the streets, you know, they be talking bad about guys who rap about girl, rap to the girls, but guess what?
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Them girls is the one that's paying for the concert tickets.
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But they support it too because it's so mainstream.
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All this gangster shit, if them dudes rapping about it and they love that life, they ain't gangsters.
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Because the ones who lived through it, who done been shot several times, who've been taped up, put in cars or locked up, incarcerated, watching their mom and them cry and people get hurt.
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The real gangsters do whatever it takes to get out of that life.
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But the ones that glorify them, the fake ones, like a friend of mine used to say.
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These dudes do push-ups while listening to Tupac and they think they're gangsters.
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No, you girls, you dudes are faggots completely.
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So that gangster lifestyle ain't something to glorify because it's death.
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It's degradation to our people and everything else, man.
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So I just wanted to go back a little bit, like in the timeline.
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You're doing the car route, chop shops and everything else like that.
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You're able to build up a good amount of money doing that.
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You said you made like a million dollars doing that?
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Over like the three or four years that you were doing it.
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And how much time were you like in jail for that first arrest for the chop shop?
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But then you said you came out and you didn't have money like that.
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Was it because you had to stop doing that as well?
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Especially the ones who knew where my stash was or the vicinity of the stash.
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And that's when you started going to the church and everything?
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So you blew up doing the Christian rap because I don't think a lot of people have like, you know, I've heard of the genre, but like I haven't really, you know, went into it.
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So you're one of the originators of that genre.
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So you become one of the originators of Christian hip-hop and you start blowing up.
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Who was the DJ that like, because you said back then you had to blow up via a DJ or?
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In Texas, it was the biggest DJ in Houston in Texas, period, was a DJ by the name of Walter D.
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Well, Screw started the underground mixtape scene.
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And then Michael 5000 watched, which is Swisher House.
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Like, it's just like, that's been a thing in Texas since the 90s, but like people are just starting to get onto it now all over across the country.
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I remember they used to drink it in jars and it was clear.
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They couldn't even fucking hear the music unless it was slowed down.
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Is that what made you like seeing people die from it?
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Is that why you're like anti-drug, anti-alcohol, anti-really, man?
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So, and He put down his guitar playing blues to put my mother through college and tried to build a family.
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My dad even told us, told me and my brother, he said, the only reason I'm with this woman in here is because I won't leave you.
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So he already knew we would be even worse, even though the streets got us anyway for a while.
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But the thing, my dad was passed out one day on the floor and he had gin, this old gin bottle, and it had a what's the name?
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I was probably four or five and I saw that and I said, oh shit, that's the devil.
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I said, whatever this poison in here killed my dad.
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And then I grew to learn that all drugs and alcohol do is make you weak.
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And then I watched my brother start drinking or everybody else start getting high and they would get their ass whooped.
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And I would get locked up and I would see guys crying because now they're doing 10, 15 years because they was high and they did something stupid.
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I saw this shit and I told myself, I said, just like I was telling you earlier, I can't look in the mirror and see a dummy.
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A lot of people fine with just doing the stupidest shit, as long as they feel good.
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See, and another thing, people wonder how I came up financially.
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I never believe in wasting because that's dumb too.
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I'm not going to say these rappers' name, but in Atlanta, I went in a strip club with them and these girls, like, ah, they come diving.
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I told them right off the bat, look, I am broke.
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So the hip-hop minimalist, which is hard to find.
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Bro, like I said, I don't fit anywhere because I don't believe in just joining the crowd.
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You know, that's, it's a reason why the majority of people are broke, dumb, and sick.
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I've been wanting to say this shit for a long time.
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The jewelry you see these rappers with, and I'm not going to say I know guys who do the jewelry.
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You know, I was going to start a business with one guy and I backed up.
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And he told me how much they pay for these diamonds.
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And the gold they have is mixed with so much iron and different shit, it has no value.
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They sell them these junk ass diamonds, these $25 diamonds.
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And niggas in the hood is like, oh, I got diamonds.
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Dude, the chains they spend, and I'm not going to give up all the game, but the chains they spend $100,000 on are only really worth $10,000.
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I found out that, you know how me wasting money, like I get sick.
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You know, one of my girls will tell you, like, I fuck around and get sick.
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And then they get in trouble because they're doing a bunch of illegal shit, right?
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Another thing I talked about is how these dudes pass these women around as if they're quality and having kids with them.
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You know, y'all know this because y'all get on here and just merc people with the truth.
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I asked them a fundamental question because I'm a writer.
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I say, when you're rapping, I mean, when you're writing, and you talking about I got the bitches, this, and I got my switch on me, and these hate niggas, and da-da-da-da, and my boy out the back of the window busting all this other shit, right?
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And I asked them, when you rap about that, you rap about the haters and you rap about the niggas you shoot, what face do you see?
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Do you see a black face, a white face, an Asian face?
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That's why when we get upset, we the first one to shoot each power.
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That's another reason why you got all this fucking jury on.
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The fact you wake up, you do push-ups, you run, you take care of your body, you focus, you build a company, you do something like that.
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No motherfucking flawed ass diamonds and all this other stuff.
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I had some white businessmen years ago, and they were like, they were nervous to ask me the question.
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And they said, man, we want to ask you this question.
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Like, why these black guys, who you already know, these black guys, they don't have money.
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And then as soon as they get money, they buy all this wasteful stuff and they waste it.
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I said, but you got to understand the ignorance that's embedded in it.
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They live in a community where they ain't got a dad.
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These emotional women raise these men to be emotional.
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And if they, if they, a lot of them blanket the image of a drug dealer or the dude on the corner and all that other stuff, and it's just regurgitated ignorance.
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I say, in order to feel like there's something in society, that goal says, I have something.
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And I'm on here talking shit, but at the same time, I understand where it come from.
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I don't put up with them defending weakness, because that's what it is, yeah.
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And then we get up there, we shoot each other up at the clubs, murder each other, drive by, nobody marches, nobody says, they just go to the funeral with him on the shirt, but a cop beat somebody up or shoot them.
00:50:10.000
Yeah yeah, you only care emotionally if someone else do it.
00:50:17.000
Guess, and I I said this before and people got mad.
00:50:21.000
I say, some of them dudes, probably quick to shoot us because they think that's what we like, we shooting each other so fast.
00:50:39.000
When they shoot little Ray Ray, you just lose it.
00:50:42.000
Yeah, but with the when, the little kid down the street when, when Ray Ray stepped on his shoes and he shot him, nobody said nothing.
00:50:56.000
They don't even know they're acting just like women.
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When a man reacts emotionally because somebody said something or do something and they're not, they're not thinking about it and being rational about it and they just acting.
00:51:12.000
Yeah, a real man, even if, if somebody disrespect you, you're gonna first weigh part of the cost out, not you, Myron.
00:51:23.000
I guess when you see that dude, you like you've already thought about you, put the bill money on the side, you him up, but but it's still logical.
00:51:33.000
The first thing he said hey, i'm gonna spend a night in jail.
00:51:38.000
Yeah, you know he's not crashing out like, but a lot of dudes man, they just they lose it and they react purely on emotions without pausing.
00:51:49.000
And it's just man, it really really, really bothers me bro so so so uh, Enzo's stories and his wisdom is unmatched, bro.
00:51:57.000
Uh, we've met a couple times and I was like yo, he's gonna be on the podcast, this guy's legendary.
00:52:03.000
Um, I want to talk about your unconventional life uh, in terms of dating uh, you have well, an amazing life.
00:52:11.000
You also have two women multiple women in my life, yes um that are like best friends and help you with everything in the household.
00:52:20.000
Because, honestly speaking, like we talk about ripple all the time, dating, all that stuff, and to see you live it is incredible, because you live it day by day, night by night.
00:52:28.000
Yeah, ain't nobody choking each other, sleeping with knives.
00:52:37.000
I mean, this stuff been happening for thousands and thousands of years.
00:52:42.000
The only reason that the system switched it up and made it to where we can't really marry like that is because the government wanted more control over the household.
00:52:54.000
But all of our ancestors, every race, all of our ancestors used to have, back in the day, multiple wives and concubines and everything, and I've gotten flack behind it.
00:53:10.000
I went to one huge church, and at the time I had three.
00:53:22.000
And I went to the church and sat right in the front row.
00:53:28.000
And afterwards, the deacons and whatever talking to me, man, you can't such, such, such.
00:53:33.000
And I told them, I said, if you can find, if you can show me any scripture in the Bible, well, I'm wrong.
00:53:52.000
Well, you know, they still moving on what it was anyway.
00:54:01.000
So where does the monogamy thing come from then in Christianity?
00:54:13.000
So when it comes to marriage, back in the Old Testament, King Solomon had a thousand women.
00:54:24.000
The concubines is just some chicks you bang crazy.
00:54:27.000
Yeah, from a far away land, just come through and then get out of here.
00:54:30.000
But they didn't say you can't marry or have multiple women.
00:54:36.000
Because the woman was made for the man and not reverse.
00:54:39.000
But the Western, this West, they didn't twisted it.
00:54:46.000
If we going home and getting beat up, and yes, dear, yes, dear.
00:54:52.000
We losing tetosterone daily by doing that shit.
00:54:57.000
They got the whole household acting like women.
00:55:02.000
Because back then, if you had all those wives and women and you had all these sons, you had your own ecosystem.
00:55:11.000
Yeah, and enforced monogamy also keeps the society more stable.
00:55:15.000
They've noticed that polygamous societies tend to be less stable is what they is the other thing too.
00:55:21.000
Yeah, because if you, because the thing is, is that when you have a polygamous society, what ends up happening is like to the victor all the spoils, right?
00:55:28.000
But if you have all these guys that they all have sexual access, they'll chill out a little bit because having a family and a wife makes men be a bit more centered and less radical, right?
00:55:38.000
They'll take less chances because now people depend on them.
00:55:46.000
Only the wealthy man would have multiple, multiple.
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Because if you broke with a bunch of wives, you think this would be World War III.
00:56:03.000
By the grace of the Most High, I do very well through discipline.
00:56:29.000
Pretty much, well, when you fast, you're supposed to take anything in, really, until like sundown.
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I don't do it every month or nothing like that.
00:56:56.000
And what that does is it reboots your whole system just like a computer.
00:57:00.000
It also puts you in charge, not your impulses, not your flesh, not your dick, not your stomach.
00:57:08.000
And it grounds you to the point where it keeps what's important important.
00:57:32.000
Your HGH shoot through the roof, your testosterone is off the that shit is off the records.
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It's hard to find clean chicken unless you raising them yourself now.
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And in the vegetable world, I don't eat corn because corn, no corn is clean.
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Like, when I, my family, we stopped eating chicken, I want to say maybe about five, four or five years ago.
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The problem is the infrastructure and supplying all that chicken is no way to raise them right.
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Yeah, putting them in steroids and shit like that.
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They get sick because they're not supposed to be 400,000 chickens in one area, even on one land.
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Now, the cows are a little bit different because you can get so much out of them.
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But them chickens, it's a wrap unless you raise them yourself.
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Yeah, because they put them in a coop next to each other and they're like, you know, get sick.
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I want two women who love and adore me that understand the mission.
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Well, speaking on the woman thing, because I took y'all left, it's a respect thing.
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You know, number one, what they say, you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
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So a lot of times guys get these women who have four or five boyfriends.
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So she have a piece of each one of them dudes inside her psyche and everything else.
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It's even scientifically proven that sperm goes up to their brain, all kinds of crazy stuff in women.
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So what happens is you get, you really get a sparring partner.
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Or somebody that's coming for the bread and they waiting for their exit strategy.
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So I always tell guys, you find the best family you can.
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But you get them, get them young, of age, and hopefully they come from a good family.
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And if you got money, you know, it works that way.
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For 10 years, all of a sudden you bring this chick in the house.
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That's how I never really run into problems like that.
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Like, yeah, it's going to suck because you're going to lose a lot of opportunities doing that.
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Like, a lot of girls are going to just say no off rip.
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But if they accept it, you're basically less headaches.
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If you sell a dream, brother, just know, nigga.
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It's just like, but you lose a lot of opportunity, man.
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Like, a lot of baddies will be like, no, thank you.
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Another thing, and people think it's a free fall.
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Now, back in the day, I was, my dick used to drive the car.
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I'm just saying, because the chat called him Unk, bro.
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Obviously, you have a couple of decades of wisdom here.
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What would you say are some of the most pronounced differences between women as you were growing up versus now?
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I talk quite a bit about how women have changed and how the days of, you know, trying to get that traditional, conservative, you know, White House and a picket fence.
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I think that dream is almost dead now at this point.
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You know, out of some exceptions that you mentioned earlier, good family, you got to really search, et cetera.
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But you're a bit older now where you can talk about this.
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We remember kind of at the edge of what it was like when women were women.
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There wasn't all these problems that, you know, kind of between relationships.
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So could you kind of, I mean, you could just give us the trajectory.
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If they had a dad, you had to get permission from their daddy.
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I mean, that sounds almost retarded right now, but it was.
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Can you give us a decade era of this just so the people can follow?
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When it hit the mid-80s in the crack era, that's when it slowly started tanking.
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So that's when you would say that the downhill downfall began?
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The strippers would be the one wearing all the tight shit.
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You see them sometimes in a nightclub like that.
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And I know women hate that, but you need the truth.
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So you would say from growing up, there was this, I guess, kind of unspoken rule, meet the family, get to know her.
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You have to have some type of investment from a familial perspective to even get in.
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Then you start to see this kind of start to crash in the mid-80s with the crack epidemic.
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When I was dating girls back in the day, they didn't wear that shit.
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See, what I learned about this, I guess they're going to get real gangster on here.
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But what I learned about this, I dated this girl, man.
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And the whole time I thought she was, you know, black mixed with Spanish because of how her hair looked.
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I'm like, her hair's down here, just wavy, all this stuff.
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And when I seen her dad and her mother, she was pure nigga.
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And one day she came outside with, I guess, without doing her hair, and she goes through this process.
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Her auntie said, don't be like the rest of these black girls in the neighborhood.
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And then I started saying, these motherfuckers are lazy.
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They don't want to grow their hair and do the necessary thing because black women, in order for their hair to grow like that, it takes more discipline.
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No, they just glue the shit in there and throw a wig on her and keep going.
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When I saw that, I said, whoa, because I'm always learning.
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That's why I'm saying what I tell women, there's nothing more beautiful than a woman who takes care of herself.
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So I'm supposed to accept these women with these super wing eyelashes and all this other stuff.
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I want to see your natural beauty because that's the only thing that is beauty.
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How can you call yourself beautiful and everything you have on, I can wipe it off or pull it off?
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You know, that's a very interesting perspective because we're not old enough to remember where the hell this thing came from, but it's interesting getting your perspective that it used to be this weave.
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These black girls, and they were carrying themselves well.
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When I watch old 80s shows, you look at like Claire Huxtable.
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Because now as you're speaking, I'm like, okay.
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And now I remember watching these old 70s, 80s, even into the 90s as well.
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Because this whole weave and shit, this is like a new thing from the 2000s, bro.
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Even in the beginning, it's a small fraction right now, black women that does do that.
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But even back then, even though they kicked the dads out the house, they were still shame to get in an argument with a man in the streets.
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So this is like for the black community, these things that you've noticed.
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Would you say that these, like, you know, the downfall of females in general, where whores and regular girls are now indistinguishable from the way that they dress?
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Would you say you saw this with all the races in the mid-80s with the crack epidemic or was it just more pronounced in the black community?
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Now, as the hip-hop just slowly turned to smut, then I watched every race start caving in that way.
01:10:03.000
So with the black community, mid-80s, what would you say with the Hispanics?
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Would you say that you started to see this with all the other races start to decline as well with their females?
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Yeah, I would say it started hitting really hard in the 2000s.
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Like as soon as 2000, I started watching everybody else start to curve as well.
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You know, you brought up an interesting point saying that it used to be girls that were whores, you knew they were whores.
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And now it's indistinguishable between you cannot.
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You're going to know if it's an any or outie just by the tights you have on.
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And then they get pissed if you say, if you even say something.
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And so before it was, you know what type of time she was on.
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You don't even know what type of chick if she's, you know, because just, I guess that's dress code that all.
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And the crazy part, they want you to treat them like the dignified women.
01:11:21.000
You mentioned not being able to distinguish between women and most whores, right?
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I was going to say, back in the day, I could say from my experience, all right, she's low followers, relay pictures.
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So what they do now, they have a little followers on purpose for pictures because they want to say, yeah, I'm a good girl.
01:11:49.000
So you can't really tell on social media either.
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What would you say since you've seen this whole thing unfold?
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How do you think social media has impacted this decline?
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The blessing is you guys on here just telling the truth and a lot of the truth people just sticking it to them.
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The people that gravitate to the lower vibrations.
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And it's so out there for them to feed from it.
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You know, you get an industry that you can make a lot of money in.
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That's where you're going to find the most devils every time, the most snakes every time.
01:12:41.000
But that's both, like, it's like the shit rises.
01:12:55.000
So, Enzo, from your experience, just because this is really good that you have the experience that most people don't have.
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If you're a young man today, your 20s or 30s, how would you find a woman nowadays to take seriously?
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Because, bro, I'm telling you, bro, you've seen me, you've seen the people as like.
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And I think that's very important that people understand that.
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You've seen literally the trajectory of the downfall of women in America in the West in general.
01:13:43.000
And the reason why I'm saying that is because I want people to understand, regardless of your net worth, regardless of your social status, no one is impervious to this bullshit.
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And that's what I'm trying to explain to people here.
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They think, oh, well, if I have some money, maybe I have some status.
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And even he's telling you, you might have to go international.
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If he can't hold one down, nigga, we're cooked.
01:14:11.000
Society, what it has done is fed women's selfishness.
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And anytime you feed selfishness, you're creating a monster.
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See, women are really destroying themselves because they don't think about the future.
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Because a woman's value is while they're young and they're destroying it.
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And I hate to say this, but it's even statistics now.
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I'm not going to give no numbers, but right now, women's suicide is just rising.
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But how it's supposed to be: if you got a woman that's older, right?
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And you the only one, you the only one touch that.
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She's going to hold more value than the 20-year-old that has 20 bodies.
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Women in that situation, they still be beautiful.
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Because the streets, they ain't been drugged by the streets and had white stuff shot on their face by different types of men.
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I want to say, all that stuff is just draining them down.
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I've ran into girls who were 20, 21 years old, and they look 30.
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The streets just, I'm telling you, man, it's bad.
01:16:00.000
So, two great men once said this: women only mature when they buy their drinks at the bar.
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Yeah, I truly don't think women mature until they start buying their own drinks at the bar, bro.
01:16:14.000
What's that woman who had all those thousands of dudes bang her?
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Y'all seen a little, I didn't watch it, but they show clips of the dudes in line.
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I said, do you can y'all even just us as men perceive what kind of dudes them was?
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Everybody in that line was a fucking high-grade loser.
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Because a real man ain't finna get in no line to fuck some tramp.
01:17:01.000
Some of these niggas brought gifts too, flowers and shit.
01:17:13.000
I mean, is OnlyFans hyping, ramping these dudes so they horny levels up that high?
01:17:24.000
And, you know, getting your perspective on it, that now, so, because you know, it's interesting because when we asked Coach Greg, he said something very similar that this is kind of the declines really started happening in the 80s and the 90s.
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And then you would say the big turn was at the 2000s where everybody was now every group.
01:17:39.000
You know, that's a good point that you mentioned.
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Because you can make the argument degeneracy of hip-hop started to become global because it started becoming accepted at the Grammys.
01:17:50.000
You have artists like Eminem fucking knocking the door down, making hip-hop a global thing, right?
01:17:56.000
And with Eminem, now you're going to get 50 Cent, now you're going to get all the other people.
01:18:00.000
So that's a good point that you mentioned, you know, and it sucks that it took, you know, that hip-hop was such a huge instrument in spreading the degeneracy, but I never thought of it that way.
01:18:10.000
But yeah, dude, it's crazy now because like, and another thing, I want to ask you this.
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In your day, having a girl that was a 304, they used to be shameful, right?
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Like these famous guys will be out and about with whores and like nobody cares.
01:18:32.000
These dudes will pass these women around like they're trophies.
01:18:39.000
I've had, and I'm not going to say names, I've had famous women, like famous women, some of them models or whatever.
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It's a level of vetting they have to go through.
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I'm like, I'm cool, mama, because it ain't worth it.
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And then this other dude, he rapes little girls.
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Yeah, it's just strange because there used to be shame.
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There used to be shame with men wiping up whores.
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But now it's like dudes are totally okay with like, you know, being around 304s and like openly, like openly like, you know, dating them and saying that's my chick and shit like that.
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Not enough to grab something that has no quality.
01:20:04.000
I mean, look at Akash saying it and look at Will Smith.
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Like, they can really fuck your legacy up, bro.
01:20:31.000
So the only way you know a profit is when it comes to pass.
01:20:34.000
And I'm going to tell everybody, don't fuck with Gary because he's on point.
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And I'm like, this girl doing everything perfect.
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So when Gary tells me this, I say, okay, let's see.
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Like, I'm going to let her come around and let her spend the night at the house and the palace and all that, right?
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And then what I did is I gave her a car to drive.
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And on the way back, she stopped and sucked some dude's dick.
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The pre-nup, the pre-nup, the pre-nup starts even before anything.
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I said, this goddamn Gary, God, it was exactly like he was talking about.
01:22:32.000
And you can't fool me, but she was, ooh, she was skilled.
01:22:38.000
Another thing, well, I don't want to just name it on Columbia.
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And I leaned back and I said, different generation.
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I say this woman was about to step into the best situation of her life.
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Generations and generations could have been taken care of.
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When stupid, I say, God, these people are fucked up.
01:23:16.000
Imagine you bought a having a real life set for life.
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And because you want to suck some niggas dick, you just blew it.
01:23:30.000
I remember I was on the yacht and Gary was like, yo, Enzo, this woman right here, fuck with her.
01:23:35.000
I'm like, she kind of bad, though, but like, what's happening here?
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I'm going to take a mental note and watch this and study it.
01:23:53.000
Hey, you have an advisor, you know what I mean?
01:24:04.000
I didn't know she was going to suck somebody's dick, but it was, she's, oh, I said, man.
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So when she came back, we got to know what you do when she came back.
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I was a little surprised, but I don't put nothing past anybody.
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And when she came to the front, she didn't know all her bags was there.
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You know, we're not going to work here because it's straight honesty in my house.
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I told her, at least you can tell your friends.
01:25:48.000
It would have just been interesting to see what she would say to defend herself.
01:25:55.000
Because you know, she probably would have started speaking that popping chucky.
01:26:27.000
We'll see you guys back here in about, Chris, how much time?