Fresh & Fit - Exposing WHO Killed JFK w- Cory Hughes & Tommy Sotomayor

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00:09:28.000 What's up, guys?

00:09:29.000 Welcome to the Fresh Air Podcast.

00:09:30.000 I'm here with Corey Hughes.

00:09:31.000 We're going to go ahead and cover the JFK assassination, 61st year anniversary.

00:09:35.000 Let's get into it, guys.

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00:10:06.000 Let's get into it.

00:10:30.000 What's up, guys?

00:10:31.000 Welcome to the Fresh Heart Podcast, man.

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00:10:34.000 Today we got a very important episode, as you guys know.

00:10:38.000 Today is the...

00:10:40.000 November 22nd, 19, well, today is November 22nd, 2024, but we are going to be covering an event that went down November 22nd, 1963, 61st year anniversary.

00:10:52.000 I'm here with Corey Hughes, the author of A Warning from History.

00:10:57.000 This is a great book, man, covers the JFK assassination in detail.

00:11:03.000 Covered this a couple months back.

00:11:04.000 But don't worry, we're going to go ahead and give you guys a full recap and go ahead and go into some new information that Corey's recently stumbled upon.

00:11:11.000 And obviously, I think this is the biggest cover-up in American history, so I'm excited to be able to do this podcast and to do it on such a day is a blessing.

00:11:19.000 So, Corey, welcome to the show, man.

00:11:22.000 Can you introduce yourself to the people?

00:11:24.000 Yeah, thank you for having me on.

00:11:26.000 My name is Corey Hughes, and I've been a full-time Kennedy investigator since July of 2018. I really started with history in about 2015. I spent several years on World War II and a lot of the misconceptions that surround World War II. And that's, if you do it correctly, will inevitably lead you to the doorstep of Kennedy and the Kennedy assassination.

00:11:49.000 And so, Once I got to Kennedy, really, it became a passion, the most, really, the thing I'm most passionate about in my entire life.

00:11:59.000 I can't seem to get enough.

00:12:00.000 And the research that I'm going to share later on today that I've been working on the past couple months is really the extension of the work of another researcher named John Armstrong.

00:12:11.000 And so it's really fascinating looking at the life of Lee Harvey Oswald and his time in the Marines and all the things that led up to the Kennedy assassination.

00:12:22.000 One thing I have to emphasize is that the story of Lee Harvey Oswald and the story of the Kennedy assassination are two genuinely completely separate stories that just so happen to intersect in Dallas in the Book Depository on November 22nd, 1963. So...

00:12:40.000 It's certainly the most important event in American history and possibly world history, depending on how you look at it.

00:12:47.000 Yeah.

00:12:47.000 And it's something that, you know, people have tried to forget about.

00:12:51.000 But, you know, I think it's very important people understand this because if you understand the Kennedy assassination, you understand a lot of things about American culture, understand who really runs this country.

00:13:01.000 And there's many hands that were involved, right?

00:13:03.000 There's many hands in the cookie jar that led to his assassination.

00:13:06.000 But I think, you know, we went through it on the last episode of the four hour long podcast guys.

00:13:11.000 We went over at timestamps for there You can absolutely go ahead and go back and watch that But obviously today we're gonna go ahead and reveal some of the new information But we understand a lot of you guys might not saw the first episode So what we're gonna do is we're gonna kind of recap and what we can do is kind of recap with the official story and And then get into what we talked about last time, who the shooters were.

00:13:31.000 Yes, there's more than one shooter, guys.

00:13:33.000 A lot of you guys think, oh yeah, it was just Oswald by himself, acting alone.

00:13:35.000 That's the official narrative that they tell you.

00:13:38.000 But once Corey breaks it down, you'll see that there's, literally it was impossible for that to happen.

00:13:43.000 And it was far more nefarious than the American government once let on.

00:13:47.000 I mean, there's a reason why they've been talking about declassifying the JFK documents and Trump hasn't done it.

00:13:52.000 I mean, he, you know, in his last term he said, He was going to do it.

00:13:56.000 He didn't do it.

00:13:57.000 He famously said, if you saw what I saw, you wouldn't declassify it either.

00:14:00.000 And a lot of the stuff that he's scared to reveal to you guys, Corey's going to talk about.

00:14:04.000 So, Corey, if you don't mind kind of just taking us through the official narrative real quick for those that might be unaware.

00:14:11.000 Sure.

00:14:12.000 The official narrative is that Lee Harvey Oswald shot President Kennedy from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository and that his motivations were based purely around the fact that he was a communist.

00:14:27.000 And when you look at the life of Lee Harvey Oswald, you will find that Lee Harvey Oswald did tend to talk about communism going back to a time when he was 13 or 14 years old, at a time when he couldn't possibly understand the concepts at which he tried to discuss with people.

00:14:44.000 The official story doesn't make any sense because the major criticism of Kennedy around the world really was that he was soft on communism and the people most angry with him were people who were considered in the time right-wingers.

00:15:00.000 And so for a extreme left-winger to assassinate Kennedy, Is a story that doesn't make any sense that to this very day, they keep trying to get us to believe.

00:15:11.000 And one thing that you will find out is that the assassination is far more nuanced than what I consider to be the official conspiracy theory, which is that The CIA killed Kennedy because they wanted to continue the war in Vietnam, and Kennedy was going to end the war in Vietnam.

00:15:29.000 That's the official conspiracy theory, which I promise was disseminated by the CIA, right?

00:15:36.000 So blaming themselves for something for the wrong reason is not outside the depths of their psychological warfare.

00:15:43.000 And one thing that you really need to understand in order to understand Kennedy is what psychological warfare is.

00:15:50.000 Because the stories of Kennedy we've been told over the years about Lee Harvey Oswald being a communist and that that's why he killed Kennedy.

00:15:58.000 That is propaganda and propaganda comprises a psychological warfare campaign against us.

00:16:04.000 So as you dig deep into the life of Lee Harvey Oswald, it will inevitably lead you to the suspicions that the forces that created him as a person began long before the assassination. it will inevitably lead you to the suspicions that the And that while a lot of people like to attribute MK Ultra type mind control to think aspects of the Kennedy assassination...

00:16:31.000 there are much simpler explanations that make much more sense, like what depths would they go to to get a spy into the Soviet Union, right?

00:16:38.000 And that, I find, is the core of the Oswald story.

00:16:42.000 It's a very simple spy story that It evolves over time and eventually will be repurposed.

00:16:51.000 Everything kind of outlives its usefulness after a while.

00:16:54.000 And that's where Oswald was after he had gone to the Soviet Union as ultimately a false defector, most likely Under one of two programs, either Redskin or AE Balcony, which were the primary programs that were operating at the time.

00:17:08.000 Real quick, Corey.

00:17:09.000 Guys, give me ones in the chat if the audio is good.

00:17:11.000 I see in the chat some of you guys are saying the audio is a little bit low.

00:17:14.000 I just turned my audio up.

00:17:15.000 It should be good now.

00:17:16.000 Corey, his audio matters the most.

00:17:18.000 So just make sure you guys give me ones if Corey's audio is good.

00:17:22.000 Mine should be good too, but give me one if both of them are good.

00:17:25.000 So I really want to make sure that you guys understand what's going on here.

00:17:29.000 Go ahead, chat.

00:17:30.000 Go ahead.

00:17:31.000 FNF chat, FedReacts chat.

00:17:33.000 Give me ones if the audio is good.

00:17:36.000 I turned my mic up, so it should be better now.

00:17:40.000 Okay.

00:17:40.000 Alright, I see a bunch of ones.

00:17:42.000 Alright, sweet.

00:17:43.000 Okay, so continue on, Corey.

00:17:45.000 I'm sorry.

00:17:46.000 All right.

00:17:46.000 So when you move past the story of Oswald and you dissect the lies we've been told about Oswald, and even when you peel back the layers of the onion surrounding his ultimate role as an agitator in New Orleans, his going out and distributing flyers on the streets that said, fair play for Cuba committee.

00:18:07.000 These are the acts of an agitator.

00:18:09.000 Professing communism is the act of an agitator.

00:18:13.000 But I can't really find a reason for his agitation prior to their starting the planning of the Kennedy assassination.

00:18:20.000 And so everything about Oswald just screams as though he had outlived his usefulness, and therefore he made the perfect patsy.

00:18:28.000 They felt like they could tie up a lot of loose ends all at once for multiple projects because, as we'll see later on, Oswald was most certainly involved in intelligence activities long before he even joined the Marines.

00:18:45.000 So the fingerprints of intelligence in Oswald's life stretch all the way back to 1947, believe it or not, long before there was even a Kennedy or anything like that for them to plan around.

00:18:58.000 And everything ultimately, like I said before, boils down to what will the CIA do to get a spy in the Soviet Union at the height of the Cold War, right?

00:19:07.000 And on screen right now, I actually have a picture of Oswald so they understand.

00:19:10.000 Because this is the person that everyone says was the person that killed Kenny.

00:19:14.000 He acted alone.

00:19:14.000 This is what the Warren Commission ended up finding out.

00:19:17.000 This is what they assumed.

00:19:18.000 And, you know, from what you're saying, because I think Oswald, they went on a game show and identified himself as a Marxist-Leninist, if I'm not mistaken, right?

00:19:27.000 Yeah, he was interviewed on WDSU television shortly after his arrest on August the 9th of 1963. So he's handing out flyers on the street corner in New Orleans that say Fair Play for Cuba Committee.

00:19:41.000 However, allegedly several days prior to that, he had met with a Cuban...

00:19:48.000 named Carlos Bernier.

00:19:50.000 And allegedly he goes to Carlos Bernier and tries to offer him his services on how to train Marines, 'cause he was a Marine.

00:19:57.000 He wanted to train troops to do invasions of Cuba and stuff like that.

00:20:00.000 I don't believe Oswald ever actually did that.

00:20:02.000 That was obviously somebody else creating this incident.

00:20:06.000 When the cops arrested Oswald after this fight with Brenier, even the cops said he felt the whole thing was staged.

00:20:12.000 Nothing about it seemed authentic.

00:20:14.000 So they were setting Oswald up basically and doing everything they could to get him on television, to get him known by the local police.

00:20:22.000 By the time the Kennedy assassination rolled around, they wanted to make sure that everybody in New Orleans knew who this guy was.

00:20:29.000 And then See, what I see as part of the psychological operation that was happening at the same time, because impersonating someone is an act of psychological warfare.

00:20:37.000 It's an act of tradecraft.

00:20:40.000 In setting Oswald up in this manner, they needed everyone.

00:20:44.000 He had to have a reputation already, right?

00:20:46.000 And the reputation would then be borne out by all kinds of witnesses, and then more witnesses would come out of the woodwork, and that's exactly what happened.

00:20:53.000 FBI was overwhelmed with witnesses, and they ultimately ended up discarding a vast majority of the statements that came to them.

00:21:02.000 And who knows what they even discarded, right?

00:21:04.000 Because right now we have 5 million pages of documents, and I feel like that is probably only a fraction of all the stuff that came forward.

00:21:13.000 Now, in as far as the documents that they're withholding, I believe that all the documents they're withholding Really revolve around Oswald, but we've been distracted to think that there's some hidden gem connecting to the CIA that will give us all these answers.

00:21:32.000 The personnel files in the CIA are really what I'm interested in.

00:21:36.000 I'm interested in personnel files on Ted Shackley, George Jordanidis, David Morales, all three guys in Dealey Plaza.

00:21:44.000 They were all...

00:21:45.000 Members of the JM Wave Station out of Miami.

00:21:48.000 So the CIA is not allowed to operate in America, but they do.

00:21:51.000 And in 1963, the largest CIA station in America, which wasn't supposed to be here, was in Miami.

00:21:57.000 It was called the JM Wave Station.

00:21:59.000 And it handled somewhere around 30,000 agents.

00:22:04.000 So...

00:22:06.000 A lot of the stuff that they're hiding, I think, will revolve around the CIA's illegal activities in America and other covert operations that don't necessarily have to do with Kennedy.

00:22:15.000 And I feel like if they release the few Kennedy documents that are remaining, particularly on David Morales and the personnel files, that will be like, Opening up Pandora's box and then they'll have to explain a lot of things that they don't want to have to explain.

00:22:30.000 And so that's what I think the real secret is.

00:22:32.000 Not even that it has to do with the Kennedy assassination, but all those documents will lead to other things that will basically sink the CIA in most people's minds if it hasn't been already.

00:22:42.000 And I think a lot of that stuff is uncovered already.

00:22:45.000 In Doug Valentine's books.

00:22:47.000 If you're not familiar with Doug Valentine, he's the world expert on the CIA. A lot of that stuff is probably in his books already.

00:22:56.000 So I went ahead.

00:22:57.000 I pulled up Jam Wave for them here.

00:22:59.000 And actually, even in Wikipedia, it says it was the codename for the major secret United States covert operation intelligence gathering station operated by the CIA from 1961 until 1968. So the official narrative, we went over it.

00:23:15.000 You know, Oswald was acting alone.

00:23:17.000 He shot him from the book depository in Dallas, Texas on November 22nd, 1963. Killed the president around lunchtime noon with the...

00:23:27.000 What kind of rifle was it? 0.84

00:23:28.000 It was an Italian rifle.

00:23:29.000 It was a Carcano 6.5 millimeter. 0.99

00:23:32.000 Everyone says it's a piece of junk, and it kind of was a piece of junk. 0.98

00:23:37.000 But... 0.99

00:23:39.000 Really, that rifle was never used.

00:23:41.000 And the rifles that were used, I believe, are already out there in the literature, mostly the Mausers that were used by three of them.

00:23:50.000 And then you have a Johnson, which was used by Lauren Hall, which was immediately traced back to Los Angeles and a guy named Richard Hathcock.

00:23:56.000 Right.

00:23:57.000 So we have over the years has been a ton of information released.

00:24:00.000 But then it just doesn't get acknowledged.

00:24:03.000 It doesn't get acted on, you know?

00:24:04.000 Yeah.

00:24:05.000 So now that we went over kind of like what the official narrative was and how it just doesn't make sense because Kennedy was trying to make peace with the Russians.

00:24:14.000 Obviously, Oswald was a somewhat communist, like it wouldn't make sense for him to assassinate him when Kennedy actually was one of the few presidents in U.S. history that was trying to make peace with Russia.

00:24:23.000 Now, I guess let's debunk some of the claims, right?

00:24:26.000 And then we'll get into what actually happened.

00:24:28.000 A lot of people say, right, Alex Jones claims it was because he was going to get us off the gold standard, right?

00:24:34.000 It was executive order 11 something.

00:24:36.000 I forget the exact numerical code for it.

00:24:40.000 Other people say it was because he was going to pull us out of Vietnam.

00:24:43.000 Other people say it was the La Cosa Nostra, it was the mafia.

00:24:46.000 Other people say it was because they had paid it for his campaign and then he turned his back on them and didn't help them out, right?

00:24:53.000 With the unions and everything else like that.

00:24:54.000 Then some other people say, oh, it was strictly the CIA. If you watch the movie JFK, the 1992 film, you know, they pretty much put all the blame on the CIA, right?

00:25:03.000 And then other people that are a bit more base, like me and you and others, understand that there's obviously a very deep Israeli connection as well.

00:25:09.000 But can you kind of go over and debunk a lot of the—I think that Vietnam and this executive order are the two main ones that they use to say that's why—and the mafia are the main ones that they say that Kennedy needed to be killed.

00:25:22.000 But can you kind of go over that real quick and debunk these claims?

00:25:27.000 Sure. 0.72

00:25:27.000 So the notion that Kennedy was going to pull out of Vietnam It's really kind of ridiculous. 0.72

00:25:34.000 If you look at how Kennedy was spending money, he had no intention of pulling out of anything.

00:25:39.000 He had spent, within the past 10 months prior to the assassination, somewhere in the neighborhood of $6.5 billion on helicopters, airplanes, logistics.

00:25:50.000 And that's the equivalent of around $65 billion today, maybe a little more.

00:25:55.000 That's an unheard of amount.

00:25:57.000 That's commitment.

00:25:58.000 You're not pulling out of any war like that.

00:26:01.000 The memo in regards to reallocation of troops.

00:26:05.000 Now, recently in studying what's known as the ZR Rifle Files, which is the government It's really a cover in the modern day, the cover of their assassination programs, executive action programs. 0.70

00:26:20.000 But when you dig through the files on that, you'll find one paragraph that basically the CIA acknowledges that Kennedy was attempting to put pressure on Diem.

00:26:29.000 For what purpose?

00:26:30.000 I couldn't tell you.

00:26:31.000 To do what the CIA wanted, right?

00:26:33.000 And so I guess he didn't do what they wanted.

00:26:36.000 You said on Diem?

00:26:38.000 Diem was the president of South Vietnam.

00:26:40.000 Oh, okay.

00:26:41.000 OK, so ultimately him not doing what the CIA wanted resulted in Diem being killed.

00:26:48.000 Right.

00:26:48.000 And so they attempted to link that to the ZR rifle program, which ZR Rifle was a recruitment program and it employed two covert operatives named Q.J. Wynn.

00:27:02.000 Most people haven't figured out that Q.J. Wynn wasn't a single operative.

00:27:05.000 He was two operatives and that those operatives were Otto Skorzeny, who was Hitler's bodyguard and elite SS member who basically Hitler loved and thought he was the best We're good to go. 0.76

00:27:33.000 I believe he...

00:27:35.000 And I believe I have a document to substantiate this, although it is using aliases.

00:27:40.000 I believe Jean-Pierre Lafitte is the...

00:27:42.000 He did what he was supposed to do under his ER rifle, and he recruited the assassin who ultimately was on the grassy knoll, which...

00:27:51.000 Initially was handled by Santos Traficante.

00:27:54.000 And the person we're talking about, I might as well just say it, is Jack Valente.

00:27:57.000 Jack Valente was the shooter on the grassy knoll.

00:27:59.000 And when you dig into Valente's background, it turns out he's born in multiple mob families, the DeGeorge family and the Valente family.

00:28:05.000 I can't find the direct familial connections through the genealogy, but you can't always trust that stuff.

00:28:10.000 A lot of that's manipulated.

00:28:12.000 But I do know that down in Tampa, Florida, there was a guy named Andrea Valente out of Tampa who participated in the assassination of Anton Cermak in 1933, was it, down in Miami.

00:28:25.000 People say it's the attempt on Roosevelt that got Cermak killed, but no, it was an actual assassination of Cermak.

00:28:31.000 The target was not Roosevelt.

00:28:32.000 The Patsy in that case was a guy named Giuseppe Zangara.

00:28:38.000 And so when Zangara was arrested, he was arrested with a guy who worked for Santos Tropicante Sr.

00:28:44.000 And his name was Andrea Valente.

00:28:48.000 And he was also arrested with, there was another guy with him named Steven Valenti, although they claimed not to be related.

00:28:54.000 There's zero information on Steven Valenti, but Andrea Valenti, you can trace back to Santos Traficante Sr. And so, Jack Valenti most certainly has, and Jack Valenti, I'm sorry, there's Valenti family that is connected.

00:29:06.000 There are other families connected, like the Diner Steens and the Calder Garones, particularly to the Valenti family.

00:29:11.000 And when you study the Tampa mob back in the day, those names all circulate around Andrea Valenti.

00:29:17.000 And that tells me that these people are all related, right?

00:29:20.000 So the FBI investigated Jack Valenti and his mob background.

00:29:24.000 But, of course, they squashed all the information that they found on him.

00:29:29.000 And there's tons out there.

00:29:30.000 There's tons of information that you can use to link him directly to the remnants of the Houston Mafia, which by the time of the Kennedy assassination was pretty much defunct.

00:29:41.000 All the Texas Mafia that they were attempting to pull together, because Texas was kind of an open state, anybody could kind of get a piece of it, but they started to form a mafia in Houston in the 30s and 40s, and also in Dallas run by a guy named Joe Civello.

00:29:55.000 But Joseph Velo ended up going to jail at a big raid of a mafia meeting in upstate New York in the 1950s.

00:30:02.000 And so after that raid happened, all the local mafia kind of fell apart and it was kind of handed back over to mainly the Chicago outfit.

00:30:11.000 And that's where you get the connection to Jack Ruby.

00:30:14.000 So Jack Ruby is down in Dallas post 1947, I believe, 48, something like that.

00:30:22.000 There's all kinds of rumors about why he ends up leaving Chicago.

00:30:27.000 But ultimately, none of that really matters.

00:30:30.000 He gets down there.

00:30:31.000 His sister is operating a bar.

00:30:34.000 What was it called?

00:30:35.000 Colony Club, maybe?

00:30:37.000 But they end up eventually opening the Vegas Club and And then after that, they opened up the Carousel Club.

00:30:45.000 Most people don't realize that Jack Ruby really didn't own much in that.

00:30:49.000 He didn't have much of a stake in any of that stuff.

00:30:50.000 He was always broke.

00:30:51.000 And he was working for his sister, Eva Grant, and a guy named Ralph Paul, who were really the muscle and the money behind all of his operations.

00:31:00.000 And Ralph Paul had moved there from Chicago before Jack Ruby.

00:31:04.000 And so it's all outfit connected.

00:31:06.000 But what you'll learn about Ruby through other mobsters Is that everybody knew Jack Ruby.

00:31:13.000 He seemed to have carte blanche wherever he went.

00:31:17.000 He knew all the bosses.

00:31:19.000 He knew Giancana and Traficante and all these guys.

00:31:21.000 And so everywhere he went, he was treated like a celebrity.

00:31:26.000 Until the assassination happens and then they sell him to us as just some two-bit nightclub owner, some Jewish two-bit nightclub owner who couldn't have any connections to the mob because there's no way that they would ever make a Jew a made guy, which is hilarious because when you come to understand who runs the mob, Especially back then. 0.67

00:31:43.000 You're talking about Meyer Lansky and you're talking about Meyer Lansky's crew who were all Jews, right? 0.96

00:31:49.000 And so ultimately, the Sicilians lost control of the Mafia with the assassinations of Joe Masseria and Saul Maranzano.

00:31:56.000 That led to Meyer Lansky and his murder, Inc.

00:32:01.000 Basically taking over and then they formed the commission, which basically acted as a front or a local management group, I would call them, because they manage operations in America.

00:32:11.000 But Meyer Lansky, he had bigger fish to fry.

00:32:15.000 He was completely involved in the global mafia game.

00:32:19.000 He might have been the boss of all bosses in the whole world.

00:32:23.000 He was dealing with the Yakuza and he was dealing with, you know, the Corsican Mafia. 0.63

00:32:27.000 It was wild what Meyer Lansky was doing.

00:32:29.000 And so really post 1930, was it 31?

00:32:34.000 Jews ran the mob, not Italians. 0.61

00:32:36.000 And so that's one of the biggest misnomers that there is.

00:32:39.000 Yeah, well, they had a lot of the money.

00:32:41.000 So real quick, because we covered a lot there with with.

00:32:47.000 But just to stay focused real quick so that we don't confuse the people.

00:32:50.000 So we talked about Vietnam, that you're saying that Vietnam, he spent a lot of money, spent $6 billion back then, which is equivalent to about $65 billion today.

00:32:59.000 So he had no intention of ending the war in your estimate?

00:33:03.000 Correct.

00:33:04.000 Okay.

00:33:05.000 Do you think he was going to pull back in any kind of way or was he going to?

00:33:09.000 I mean, it's possible.

00:33:10.000 We don't know.

00:33:10.000 Okay.

00:33:13.000 The pressure on him was too great.

00:33:14.000 He wouldn't have been re-elected.

00:33:16.000 They would have made sure that there were enough negatives to him not to where I don't think it was even a consideration.

00:33:21.000 And with the CIA even commenting that his move was meant to put pressure, I don't really see...

00:33:30.000 Any rational justification for him to have pulled out.

00:33:33.000 Okay.

00:33:33.000 He was more concerned about nuclear weapons than conventional weapons, for sure.

00:33:37.000 Gotcha.

00:33:38.000 So I think he was just already committed, and I don't think it was a possibility.

00:33:41.000 Second thing, executive order 1-1, I gotta look this up.

00:33:46.000 It had something to do with the U.S. dollar.

00:33:49.000 And silver certificates or something like that.

00:33:51.000 Honestly, I don't know too much about that, but that is a...

00:33:56.000 What I have heard about that is that that was much more minor and people blow it up to be something that it wasn't.

00:34:02.000 It hasn't even been a blip on my radar, to be honest with you.

00:34:05.000 Okay, so not even close.

00:34:08.000 What are the other reasons people said that they- So here's the biggest reason and ultimately- They claimed that he betrayed the mob.

00:34:15.000 Was that true?

00:34:16.000 He did betray the mob and they were pissed.

00:34:18.000 And you have to think everybody involved, they don't have to have a united reason.

00:34:22.000 They can have their own reasons.

00:34:24.000 The Israelis had their reason. 1.00

00:34:26.000 The CIA had their reasons.

00:34:29.000 Everybody had their own reason.

00:34:30.000 And one thing you have to really come to understand is that in 1963, everybody was a conservative by today's standards.

00:34:39.000 Everybody, everybody, everybody.

00:34:43.000 How would conservatives feel if they felt the president was betraying them to a communist country, right?

00:34:48.000 They wouldn't be too happy about it.

00:34:49.000 And that seemingly was the vast majority of people back then.

00:34:53.000 So trying to make peace would be seen as being with Russia was obviously post-Cold War.

00:34:59.000 Right, right.

00:35:01.000 For some reason, at least at the government level, they wanted to perpetuate the Cold War because it was good for America, they thought in their mind.

00:35:12.000 Isolation of them was the goal.

00:35:15.000 But see, post, and I don't talk about or usually study or have anything to do with the modern era, but you can see how once the Soviet Union fell apart, like, really, all of the propaganda that we were saturated with about the Soviet Union and all the negativity towards the Soviet, it seemed to be for naught.

00:35:35.000 It seemed to be for nothing, right?

00:35:39.000 All right.

00:35:40.000 So, okay, so I guess the two things that we're talking about as far as there being myths are ending the Vietnam War.

00:35:48.000 We know that he actually spent quite a bit more money to keep it going because he couldn't pull out at that point.

00:35:51.000 They were committed.

00:35:52.000 And then the second thing was this executive order, which isn't even really a thing.

00:35:56.000 It didn't even come up behind the radar.

00:35:57.000 And then the mafia, he did betray them, you're saying, because what people allege is he took funding from them to get into office.

00:36:04.000 And then once he got into office, he completely turned his back on them.

00:36:06.000 Is that correct or?

00:36:08.000 So not only that, Kennedy stole that election.

00:36:11.000 Kennedy stole that election hands down and he used the Chicago mob to do it.

00:36:15.000 Joe Kennedy cut a deal with the Chicago mob, Giancana in particular, and they stole three ballot boxes and that tipped Chicago in Kennedy's favor.

00:36:24.000 And that's all it took.

00:36:26.000 And so they felt betrayed because they put him there.

00:36:28.000 Literally, the mob put him in office.

00:36:31.000 He would have lost that election.

00:36:32.000 There's a book written on it called, it has the number of the ballot box on it.

00:36:36.000 I forget what the book is called, but it's out there and people can buy it and read it and they can see exactly what happened.

00:36:41.000 Wow.

00:36:41.000 Did he pay them to do that?

00:36:43.000 What was their incentive?

00:36:44.000 I don't know what the arrangement was.

00:36:46.000 Maybe it was Joe Kennedy offering them that we're not going to come after you, we'll leave you alone, that kind of thing.

00:36:53.000 Okay, so that's what- From what I understand, Bobby Kennedy finds out about this and he's beyond pissed.

00:36:58.000 And so that's what turned him on the mob so we could show that he wasn't on the take.

00:37:03.000 You know what I mean?

00:37:03.000 He was angry that this happened in the first place.

00:37:05.000 And so that's why he went after the mob.

00:37:07.000 So it was kind of like this weird paradoxical set of circumstances that led to the persecution of the mafia under Kennedy in the first place.

00:37:16.000 But yeah, ultimately they felt betrayed because of the circumstances at play.

00:37:21.000 So basically, he was going to come into office and kind of take the attention off the mafia so they can continue to operate in secrecy.

00:37:28.000 Because, I mean, prior to his RFK going after them, no one really knew.

00:37:34.000 It was a shadowy organization. 0.98

00:37:35.000 No one knew what the fuck was going on. 0.98

00:37:40.000 So basically, Kenny gets into office. 0.99

00:37:42.000 He tells them, we're not gonna come after you.

00:37:44.000 And then his brother, Attorney General, does go after them.

00:37:47.000 That's what pissed them off.

00:37:48.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:37:49.000 It's really Joe Kennedy.

00:37:50.000 It's Kennedy's father, Joe Kennedy, created this mess.

00:37:54.000 And he was the one that made the promises to the mob.

00:37:57.000 Exactly.

00:37:57.000 And he made a lot of promises to a lot of people.

00:38:00.000 Gotcha.

00:38:00.000 Okay.

00:38:01.000 So he had a lot of people.

00:38:03.000 John Kennedy got an office.

00:38:04.000 And then I have a feeling Joe Kennedy made all these promises.

00:38:07.000 Then Kennedy gets an office and then Joe Kennedy is like, well, hey, we got to deal with this.

00:38:11.000 And then And John Kennedy was like, I don't think so. 0.99

00:38:15.000 He's not going to be kissing people's ass because his father made promises. 0.99

00:38:18.000 And that, I think, was where the breakdown happened. 1.00

00:38:21.000 Okay, okay.

00:38:21.000 So JFK's father made the promises to the mob.

00:38:25.000 Hey, we'll protect you guys, blah, blah, blah.

00:38:28.000 Son finds out, RFK, senior, not RFK now, guys, junior.

00:38:33.000 He finds out, goes at them because he's the attorney general.

00:38:36.000 Brings them in for depositions.

00:38:37.000 I remember he made them all testify and stuff like that.

00:38:40.000 And next thing you know, this Umurta, our thing, it becomes a national thing.

00:38:44.000 And everyone knows about the mafia now.

00:38:46.000 So they obviously were pissed off about that.

00:38:48.000 And you think that, okay, so it is true that he betrayed the mob or, well, at least his father did.

00:38:53.000 Why did they kill his dad then instead of him?

00:38:59.000 That's a good question.

00:39:00.000 The first thing that comes to mind is it sends a powerful message.

00:39:03.000 Yeah, killing a city president is— Right.

00:39:06.000 I'm sure it was discussed to take out Robert Kennedy, and it's alleged—here's the thing.

00:39:11.000 Here's the problem with things that are alleged a lot of times, things that are in the public consciousness are not necessarily true.

00:39:15.000 But it is alleged that Tropicante had made the comment on his deathbed that we killed the wrong son, meaning we should have killed Bobby instead of John Kennedy.

00:39:29.000 But who knows if that was actually said, but that is actually but that's what's out there.

00:39:34.000 That makes a lot of sense to me, at least.

00:39:37.000 But.

00:39:38.000 OK, go ahead.

00:39:40.000 OK, so.

00:39:42.000 Now we know the mafia obviously has an incentive because they kind of blew the lid on who they were.

00:39:48.000 And I didn't know that, that Kenny was actually supposed to lose that election.

00:39:51.000 He didn't get enough votes.

00:39:52.000 I didn't know that.

00:39:54.000 And then after the next one, obviously, I'm trying to think if there's any other myths before we move on to what actually went down that day.

00:40:03.000 Most of the myths I find, besides Oswald did it and everything surrounding him, most of the myths that I find that are promoted are promoted through the Kennedy conspiracy world.

00:40:13.000 You know, they talk about mysterious shooters on the grassy knoll who are provably not there.

00:40:18.000 They talk about Malcolm Wallace on the sixth floor of the depository.

00:40:21.000 They talk about fingerprints that were left behind.

00:40:23.000 I mean, the number of myths surrounding the conspiracy world I find far outweigh the myths that surround the official story.

00:40:33.000 Yeah, so let's do this then.

00:40:35.000 Nothing we've been told about the official story is true at all. 0.99

00:40:38.000 Yeah, no, it's all, I mean, yeah, with the whole bullet trajectory, the magic bullet theory, it's all crap and bullshit. 0.98

00:40:43.000 Now, real quick, and I know you have a whole PowerPoint on this. 0.95

00:40:46.000 Can we go over who the shooters actually were?

00:40:50.000 So all you guys in here, please pay attention.

00:40:52.000 We're going to go through who the shooters actually were.

00:40:56.000 And if we can, like, kind of do it, what I'll do is I can, I don't know if you want to pull up your PowerPoint or I can pull up the ones.

00:41:01.000 I know we mentioned one of them, which is Jack Valentia.

00:41:03.000 We can talk about a couple of people, but when we get to the null, I'll pull up my PowerPoint.

00:41:08.000 Okay, sure.

00:41:09.000 So we got a couple of minutes before we can talk about the background.

00:41:11.000 So it's very important to understand that the execution of the assassination and how it actually went down is directly connected.

00:41:21.000 To the setup of Oswald, right?

00:41:23.000 Because I, to this day, am the only Kennedy researcher who does not believe for a split second that Lee Harvey Oswald was even at the Book Depository on November 22nd.

00:41:32.000 I haven't seen a single shred of evidence that can't be explained away.

00:41:38.000 Everything from how he got there To what he did when he was there, to how he fled the depository, to where he went.

00:41:45.000 None of it makes any sense.

00:41:46.000 And it all falls apart when you dig into the minutia of each thing.

00:41:49.000 Like, it's alleged that Buell Frazier, who is a co-worker of Oswald, gave him a ride that morning to the book depository.

00:41:57.000 And when he parked in the back of the book depository, Oswald got out and he walked into the building and he carried a package under his arm that has gone on to be the rifle that allegedly was used.

00:42:07.000 And that's how he snuck it into the building.

00:42:09.000 That has become History.

00:42:12.000 That has become etched in the history books as that happened.

00:42:14.000 But when you dig into that story, Buell Frazier will tell you that Oswald was wearing a gray, more or less flannel wool jacket when he showed up that morning to get a ride to work.

00:42:25.000 Well, that doesn't make any sense at all, because we know that after work, Oswald is alleged to have to go home to get his jacket, and at the same time, he picked up his revolver, and then he went and murdered J.D. Tippett, the cop, right?

00:42:38.000 So it doesn't make any sense.

00:42:40.000 The things that Buell Frazier said don't make any sense in regards to the person he gave a ride to that day, if he gave a ride to anybody at all.

00:42:46.000 Then you have the activities within the building.

00:42:48.000 And well, if you can replace Oswald with somebody else and not have Oswald walking around, but say it's Oswald, the people he's working with don't know any different.

00:42:57.000 Right.

00:42:58.000 And so this is where it begins to lose people to think that the CIA does not use body doubles and this and things like that in order to create and to fabricate circumstances.

00:43:08.000 You have to realize the book depository itself Is a den of espionage.

00:43:13.000 It is a CIA brunt, basically.

00:43:16.000 Do you think that in America, the CIA who controls the narrative is going to allow textbooks to be printed that would tell anything other than the story the CIA wants to tell you about our history?

00:43:25.000 Absolutely not.

00:43:26.000 The entire textbook industry in America is clearly run by the CIA because nothing else makes logical sense.

00:43:32.000 And when you look at the other businesses inside the building, the Southeastern Publishing Company, the Macmillan Company, Scott Forsman, All of these companies, you can find when you study these companies, there are CIA contractors, every last one of them.

00:43:47.000 Now, does that mean everybody working for them is a spy?

00:43:49.000 No, obviously not.

00:43:51.000 But people like William Shelley, who was Oswald's alleged boss in the building, along with other guys like O.V. Campbell, who was one of the owners.

00:43:59.000 And to me, the primary conspirator within the book depository was the owner himself, a guy named Jack Kaysen.

00:44:06.000 Who is never mentioned virtually anywhere.

00:44:08.000 He's mentioned on one document in all of the Kennedy literature, but that was the guy who owned the building.

00:44:13.000 When you dig into him, he was a extreme right winger and he was the head of the local American Legion, which actually in the 60s did stuff back then.

00:44:22.000 They were another group just like the John Birch Society.

00:44:25.000 So he puts himself at the book depository until 12, 10 PM. But that's never really brought into the investigation at any point because witnesses outside the book depository start to see people on the sixth floor with rifles about 12, 10 PM, right?

00:44:40.000 So the totality of circumstances and the lack of information on Jack Kayson tells me he's the guy who led him in the back door.

00:44:45.000 At the very same time, they're starting to funnel people out the front door so they can watch the parade.

00:44:50.000 They cleared the building mostly.

00:44:52.000 And my biggest gripe with people who believe that Oswald worked at the book depository just because the government said he did, Is that if you're going to go to the effort to bring assassins into a building and then make sure that you have the elevator stopped for them and the power killed so they can make sure to get out, if you're going to go to all this trouble, are you just going to let Oswald, who knows nothing about any of this, wander around the building of his own free will?

00:45:17.000 If you know anything about Oswald, he would not have stood outside to watch the president for a split second.

00:45:22.000 He would have given some communist excuse, oh, I'm not going to go watch that, you know, That American whatever. 0.81

00:45:28.000 And he would he would do this type of thing. 0.96

00:45:30.000 So the notion that he would even be anywhere near it is ridiculous.

00:45:33.000 And the idea you're going to let your patsy wander throughout the building and potentially stumble upon your assassins in the area that he's alleged to just been working in, which he would have returned to, doesn't make any sense either.

00:45:44.000 So when you really dig into the details of the repository, it leads you to the men who established what is called a legend, a false history, a false background.

00:45:55.000 The vast majority of incidents involving Lee Harvey Oswald never involved Lee Harvey Oswald.

00:46:00.000 Some of the famous ones were his shooting at other people's targets at the gun range.

00:46:05.000 That you can clearly trace to somebody other than Oswald.

00:46:08.000 The rifle that was worked on at the gun range was clearly a Argentine Mauser 7.65, not the Carcano that Oswald allegedly used.

00:46:17.000 So when you start to dig into each and every incident of Lee Harvey Oswald, And what he did and all the times he started to profess communism, you'll find that he wasn't responsible and it wasn't him.

00:46:30.000 And all the incidents of him where we have him on film professing communism, those were obviously all planned and staged events.

00:46:39.000 Even things like his trip to Mexico City.

00:46:41.000 He allegedly took a trip to Mexico City in an attempt to get into Cuba.

00:46:45.000 When you dig into that story, it becomes obvious that he was being framed.

00:46:49.000 He was being set up.

00:46:50.000 And when you come to understand the general cast of characters, and then you dissect each and every incident involving Oswald, you'll come to find that there were basically other people with him at all these incidents.

00:47:03.000 And you can basically easily trace them back to our original cast of characters that we assemble in New Orleans and the mercenaries that came up from Miami.

00:47:12.000 The mercenaries in particular who came up from Miami who were spending time in New Orleans were guys like Lawrence Howard, who is a very heavy-set Mexican with numerous moles all over his face. 0.76

00:47:23.000 Chad, now we're getting into the shooters, so pay attention, guys.

00:47:25.000 Now we're going to get into the shooters.

00:47:26.000 He was setting it up.

00:47:27.000 Basically, long story short for y'all, Oswald wasn't at the book depository, and the person that Was Oswald that was captured was someone else, okay?

00:47:37.000 And then, obviously, Oswald was lured to the movie theater later on.

00:47:41.000 But basically, the person that looks like Oswald that shot the president wasn't Oswald.

00:47:47.000 And they've been setting this up since the 1940s, where they're gonna have someone that looks just like Oswald, which Cory's gonna go into more detail with.

00:47:54.000 But continue on.

00:47:55.000 You're identifying the shooters now.

00:47:56.000 Sure.

00:47:57.000 Jack Valenti, you first.

00:47:58.000 When it gets to the actual shooters in the building, you'll find that these people Are not random shooters who just show up out of nowhere who are not involved in the setup of Oswald.

00:48:10.000 They're all intimately connected with each other.

00:48:12.000 They're intimately connected with our people down in New Orleans, particularly David Ferry and Clay Shaw.

00:48:20.000 Inside the book depository, I believe the guy working there was a guy named William Seymour.

00:48:25.000 William Seymour, I can link to at least a dozen impersonations of Oswald at the shooting range, at a car dealership, all kinds of places.

00:48:36.000 At Sylvia Odeos.

00:48:37.000 The Sylvia Odeos story is a very important story in the...

00:48:41.000 In the world of Kennedy because allegedly Oswald and two Cubans show up at this Cuban exile's home, try to get involved with raising money for the Cuban cause.

00:48:52.000 It's identified as Oswald, but it's clearly not Oswald because Oswald is still in New Orleans when that happened.

00:48:57.000 And at the exact same time that this stuff is going on, we have another person in Mexico City who is pretending to be Oswald.

00:49:04.000 Claiming they're Oswald, calling the Soviet embassy, trying to get a visa, making a scene.

00:49:09.000 So the people who are setting Oswald up, they did it all over the place and they did it in a manner so you would remember him.

00:49:15.000 They always talked about communism or all the things that they were told to say so they would leave an impression in a person's mind so that after the assassination, when it goes down, they'll remember that person who looked like Oswald Who talked about communism and said he had a Russian wife and all this stuff, right?

00:49:31.000 All these people were given information and they knew exactly how to set Oswald up.

00:49:34.000 And the man who I believe was working in the book depository that day, who was not a shooter, he was a spotter for sure, is a guy named William Seymour.

00:49:42.000 Oswald is allegedly seen in the book depository.

00:49:44.000 Can we show a picture of William Seymour so they can see like how they look alike?

00:49:49.000 Oh.

00:49:51.000 Yeah, give me just one second.

00:49:52.000 It's gonna take me a minute to pull that up.

00:49:54.000 Yeah, because guys, it's very important that you guys realize that this body double...

00:49:58.000 Because some of y'all might be like, what the hell?

00:50:00.000 What are you talking about, Myron?

00:50:00.000 You're telling me that there was a body double?

00:50:02.000 This doesn't sound right.

00:50:03.000 Well, let me explain that in more rational terms.

00:50:06.000 So...

00:50:08.000 They were leaving impressions that months later people would then recall, right?

00:50:12.000 That's basically the methodology.

00:50:14.000 And even in CIA training manuals, when it talks about this stuff, it talks about the people don't have to look exactly alike because when they're not together and scrutinized, the impression that they leave is good enough for the person to be mistaken for the person they want you to think it is.

00:50:28.000 And Lee Harvey Oswald all over the news, right?

00:50:31.000 And so every single person Who talked about communism, who looked like Oswald.

00:50:37.000 They're like, oh, it's that guy.

00:50:38.000 And so they called.

00:50:39.000 The FBI has so many reports of people reporting their interactions with Oswald that some probably are and some probably aren't.

00:50:45.000 But the person that we know as Oswald, he most certainly did not go around professing communism, unless it was to the people who we know were connected to him, which we can say were CIA, like George DeMornShield or Ruth Payne or Michael Payne or some of their friends.

00:51:00.000 So, yeah, the person we know as Oswald didn't go around professing communism.

00:51:04.000 The only thing, if we didn't see it on film, like him being on the street corner handing out those flyers, I'm convinced it didn't happen at all.

00:51:10.000 And it's all part of what is known as a legend.

00:51:13.000 A legend is a false history that's created for a spy.

00:51:17.000 And that's exactly what everything was that led up to the assassination.

00:51:20.000 And later, as we'll see, These impersonations of or the duplicate Oswald theory stretches all the way back.

00:51:28.000 Really, the first evidence for it is in 1947, which obviously doesn't have anything to do with the assassination itself, but had to do with a program to get a spy into the Soviet Union.

00:51:38.000 But let me go ahead and share a screen and I will go ahead and show you what William Seymour looked like.

00:51:46.000 So the two men who impersonated Oswald were Cary Thornley, mostly in New Orleans and a couple places in Dallas in the days leading up to the assassination.

00:51:54.000 But William Seymour was a major player in this.

00:51:58.000 Remember, he didn't have to be identical.

00:52:00.000 All he had to do was be close enough to when not scrutinized could pass.

00:52:04.000 And that's exactly how this operation worked.

00:52:06.000 The thing that gave Seymour away is he was actually a couple inches shorter than Oswald.

00:52:11.000 Oswald, that you're seeing now, is 5'9", exactly.

00:52:14.000 William Seymour was closer to 5'7", so in a lot of the descriptions, that became very obvious that it was him, as opposed to Kerry Thornley, who was about 5'10", who's taller than Oswald.

00:52:26.000 So...

00:52:27.000 Like I said, they didn't have to be perfect.

00:52:29.000 They just had to be close enough to when not scrutinized could pass.

00:52:33.000 And that's how these things worked.

00:52:35.000 Corey, question for you.

00:52:35.000 We know why the mafia wanted Kennedy dead.

00:52:38.000 We know why.

00:52:40.000 Maybe we'll switch to Rumble when we'll talk about the Israeli connection.

00:52:43.000 But why did the CIA want Kennedy gone?

00:52:49.000 Because these guys are obviously CIA operatives, Thornley and Seymour.

00:52:54.000 So why did they want Kennedy dead?

00:52:56.000 Well, those guys in particular just follow orders.

00:52:58.000 That's what you do at that level.

00:53:00.000 At the higher level, really, I think that they kind of felt betrayed for numerous reasons.

00:53:12.000 I think the Bay of Pigs showed a side of Kennedy.

00:53:15.000 Because they were trying to...

00:53:16.000 The Bay of Pigs was crucial because they kind of tricked Kennedy, right? 1.00

00:53:22.000 They...

00:53:23.000 Didn't really tell him everything.

00:53:25.000 And they thought that they could count on him and they couldn't at the end of the day.

00:53:30.000 And he ends up pulling the operation like midway ultimately.

00:53:33.000 And that pissed a lot of people off.

00:53:35.000 But honestly, the more I study the Bay of Pigs, it's ridiculous that it could ever have succeeded in the first place, knowing what I know about it. 0.96

00:53:42.000 And so I kind of feel like Alan Dulles played a major role in the Bay of Pigs and that he it was launched intentionally to fail to expose Kennedy.

00:53:51.000 To give them a reason to try to oust him, right?

00:53:53.000 I think it was part of a larger plot to oust Kennedy from the White House.

00:53:57.000 And why would they want to oust him from the White House?

00:54:02.000 Because he was soft on communism and all the stereotypical stuff that you would think the right wingers would think.

00:54:07.000 He hadn't done anything to betray America at that point.

00:54:11.000 Who knows what was in their heads and what they understood at that time.

00:54:16.000 Perhaps they just couldn't.

00:54:17.000 They didn't like the path that they saw him putting forth for America and saw it eventually leading to a world that is communistic in nature and totalitarian.

00:54:26.000 But it's ironic because Alan Dulles was a diehard.

00:54:32.000 He was a fascist, ultimately.

00:54:34.000 I mean, he definitely supported the fascists in Italy and he was all about Israel.

00:54:40.000 And he, in particular, Wanted to see America, as David Ferry would put it, turned into one big barbed wire prison, right?

00:54:53.000 I guess it was just a matter of who was going to be in charge of this prison, that ultimately what it came down to.

00:54:59.000 And Chad, for you guys wondering, Allen Dulles was the first CIA director, you know, for the CIA. And he obviously the Washington, D.C. airport is named after him.

00:55:09.000 Did a bunch of bullshit back in the day, a lot of a lot of illegal operations. 0.78

00:55:14.000 And then the other thing I was going to say as well with with Dulles, I also heard that Kennedy was hell bent on disbanding the CIA. Is that true as well? 0.97

00:55:22.000 Or no?

00:55:23.000 That's definitely true.

00:55:24.000 That is true.

00:55:24.000 Because he always felt betrayed.

00:55:25.000 They always lied to him.

00:55:26.000 And he's the president. 0.94

00:55:27.000 And who the hell are these people to lie?

00:55:28.000 But he didn't realize that they didn't work for America.

00:55:31.000 They worked for an elite banking international class.

00:55:36.000 And who's the elite banking class, right?

00:55:40.000 That's who they work for.

00:55:41.000 And that's what they've always worked for.

00:55:42.000 The CIA was designed with that in mind.

00:55:44.000 Yeah, it was an old boys club.

00:55:45.000 It was created by a bunch of lawyers and bureaucrats and guys that had some money.

00:55:49.000 And, you know, obviously they did a lot of destabilization all around the world to enrich themselves, whether it was what they did in South America with destabilizing the banana industry over there.

00:56:00.000 United Fruit, you know?

00:56:01.000 Yeah, United Fruit, exactly, which was a big CIA front.

00:56:05.000 But, okay, so...

00:56:08.000 We're talking about why they wanted him gone, and then you were showing us Seymour.

00:56:12.000 So I showed you William Seymour.

00:56:14.000 My opinion is William Seymour was impersonating Oswald at the Book Depository, and not everybody had to be in on it, but a couple people were.

00:56:20.000 William Shelley, for sure.

00:56:22.000 I've got William Shelley killing the power of the building, which once I get to the grassy knoll shooter, we'll pop some slides up here, and I'll demonstrate everything that happened.

00:56:31.000 But other than... 0.81

00:56:34.000 Lawrence Howard was a shooter in the book depository from the Sniper's Nest, and he is the heavyset Latino with a pockmarked face. 1.00

00:56:41.000 Can we show a picture of him?

00:56:42.000 And I think it's also important for the audience to realize when...

00:56:50.000 When Oswald allegedly shot J.D. Tippett, the police officer, Dallas police officer, there was a witness there.

00:56:57.000 It was a black woman, actually. 1.00

00:56:58.000 It was an older black woman. 1.00

00:56:59.000 Right.

00:56:59.000 And she identified, what, two or three individuals, if I'm not mistaken, right?

00:57:04.000 Well, that's Akilah Clemens.

00:57:06.000 And Akilah Clemens gave testimony, which definitely indicates there were two men involved in the Tippett shooting.

00:57:12.000 Yes.

00:57:12.000 All right.

00:57:13.000 And so you have her and you have Frank Wright and you have a woman named Doris Holen.

00:57:20.000 And when you combine their testimonies, you get a great description.

00:57:25.000 And then when you extend the realm from which you get descriptors and you bring it back to the grassy knoll, you'll find you have another guy named Ed Hoffman.

00:57:34.000 And then you'll have a woman named Velma who's in a car behind the Texas Goldberg Depository. 1.00

00:57:38.000 And when you look at the testimony and the statements that these five people in general gave, they're all describing the same man.

00:57:44.000 A man who's probably 5'9", 5'10".

00:57:47.000 He's a heavy man, but he's not very big.

00:57:50.000 And he had a blue suit on and a black hat with a wide felt band.

00:57:55.000 And he left the book depository in a gray 1950s Plymouth, a one-seater Plymouth car.

00:58:03.000 And then that Plymouth, the gray Plymouth, it appears in tippet shooting, right?

00:58:06.000 And so you have logical paths of progression from witness statements that when you combine them all and look at them in their totality, and that's a thing that I find a lot of researchers have trouble with, is looking at things in their totality, taking a step back and seeing the bigger picture.

00:58:21.000 So many people get lost in the minutia that they don't realize half the minutia is wrong in the first place, and it's generated in the heat of the moment.

00:58:29.000 But ultimately, the shooters in the Book Depository are all connected to David Ferry.

00:58:35.000 And they're all connected to David Ferry directly, basically.

00:58:40.000 So the guy on the left here is Lawrence Howard.

00:58:43.000 He's got moles all over his face.

00:58:44.000 He's often described as having a pockmarked face.

00:58:46.000 And he is seen with, well, allegedly, Lee Harvey Oswald all over the South in New Orleans and in Dallas and other places, possibly even Miami.

00:58:57.000 But anytime you see an Oswald sighting with a large Husky Latino with a pockmarked face, it's clearly Lawrence Howard and William Seymour. 1.00

00:59:04.000 Virtually every time.

00:59:05.000 There might be some exceptions because when you go through the statements of Kerry Thornley, Kerry Thornley, when he talked to Jim Garrison, and Jim Garrison is the only person who ever brought a trial in the case of the assassination of John Kennedy down in New Orleans, a fascinating story.

00:59:20.000 It's a fascinating case because the government's telling you that Lee Harvey Oswald did it, and yet Garrison is digging up all this information on all this stuff that the government didn't want anybody to know about, right?

00:59:28.000 And for those who are wondering, Harrison, guys, he was the main character in the famous movie JFK. Right, Jim Garrison, yeah.

00:59:35.000 And the only thing that that movie got right, to be honest with y'all, was it identified David Ferry as one of the shooters, or being involved in the conspiracy, at least.

00:59:43.000 Which I have his picture here for the chat, just so they know.

00:59:45.000 This is the guy that was famously played by, I think it was Joe Pesci, right?

00:59:48.000 Yes.

00:59:50.000 So this is David Ferry right here, guys.

00:59:51.000 So David Ferry was also one of the shooters, which I'm going to let Corey, when he gets to that part, he'll explain a little bit more about David Ferry.

00:59:57.000 But these are the other three that a lot of people don't know about, which we're showing you right now with Howard Seymour and Hall.

01:00:01.000 So David Ferry, he was one of two shooters on the Grassy Knoll.

01:00:04.000 Now, when I came to this conclusion, it was because none of the behavior allegedly involving David Ferry in the days after the assassination made any sense.

01:00:14.000 And so when you start to dig into the incidents surrounding David Ferry, You'll find after the assassination, he ends up in Hammond, Louisiana with a guy named Thomas Compton.

01:00:23.000 And Thomas Compton has a roommate named Frank Cholona.

01:00:26.000 And this is where everything just blew up for me because Frank Cholona is not in on any scheme.

01:00:31.000 He's just a roommate of a guy who had agreed to give David Ferry a place to crash after the assassination.

01:00:36.000 So you dig into the statements of Frank Cholona, you realize David Ferry was in Hammond, Louisiana the entire weekend after the assassination at a time when he's supposed to be in Houston Allegedly bringing a couple of guys to an ice skating rink where they're going to go ice skating.

01:00:52.000 And so the whole ice skating story at a place called the Winterland Ice Skating Rink ends up falling apart. 0.95

01:00:58.000 And then when you're like, well, damn, why did he come up with a story about being in Houston?

01:01:02.000 It's like, well, duh, he was in Dallas. 0.97

01:01:04.000 That's why he had to come up with this big, long alibi that doesn't make any sense.

01:01:08.000 And so eventually I put him on the grassy knoll thanks to the five witnesses that I just mentioned.

01:01:13.000 Well, two of them, Ed Hoffman, who sees a man in the blue suit with a dark colored hat with a wide felt band.

01:01:20.000 He sees him fire a shot from the corner of the picket fence, coincides with the first shot that hit Kennedy in the throat.

01:01:25.000 David Ferry then takes that rifle and he will throw it to his backup guy who's dressed in a railroad worker's uniform, a guy who I have identified.

01:01:34.000 By the name of Andrew Jerome Blackman.

01:01:37.000 He's all over the literature.

01:01:39.000 He's in the Merchant Marine.

01:01:42.000 I was actually able to locate the ship he came in on when he departed, all that stuff.

01:01:45.000 He was definitely there, pulled into Galveston Harbor that weekend.

01:01:50.000 And actually, Jack Ruby drove him back to his boat Over the weekend after the assassination, when Jack Ruby is not even supposed to be anywhere near there.

01:01:58.000 He's supposed to be in Dallas all weekend, but even Jack Ruby has a body double, believe it or not.

01:02:03.000 So, back to the shooters.

01:02:04.000 David Ferry, first shooter on the grassy knoll.

01:02:06.000 And now we can move on to...

01:02:09.000 Jack Valente.

01:02:10.000 I showed them a picture of Ferry.

01:02:12.000 I had it up while you had the other ones up.

01:02:13.000 But yeah, so we got...

01:02:15.000 Oh my god.

01:02:19.000 Popface, the Hispanic Popface guy.

01:02:22.000 Lawrence Howard.

01:02:23.000 Lawrence Howard.

01:02:25.000 Seymour.

01:02:26.000 And Hall.

01:02:27.000 Did we talk about Hall?

01:02:28.000 Lauren Hall.

01:02:29.000 Yeah, so Lauren Hall, he's busted.

01:02:31.000 Well, number one, this is a trio.

01:02:33.000 Trio of people traveling across the country for a couple of years before the assassination doing mercenary stuff, right?

01:02:37.000 Could we pull the pressure up one more time?

01:02:38.000 Those three?

01:02:40.000 Yeah.

01:02:43.000 There we go.

01:02:44.000 So these are three guys.

01:02:45.000 Okay, good.

01:02:45.000 So I was actually contacted recently by somebody who knows Lauren Hall's stepson who's still alive.

01:02:51.000 Yeah, and they haven't returned an email of mine, but hopefully I'll get to talk to him one day.

01:02:56.000 William Seymour is still alive, just so you know.

01:02:59.000 I have his phone number. 0.97

01:03:00.000 I honestly, I just don't have the balls to call him. 0.98

01:03:02.000 I'm gonna straight up say it. 0.97

01:03:03.000 It's not my thing to go reaching out and interviewing people.

01:03:06.000 And so, but no, William Seymour is alive.

01:03:08.000 He's living, I think it's in Tucson, about 86 years old.

01:03:11.000 So his clock's ticking too.

01:03:13.000 But yeah, these are the three guys who traveled across the country together back and forth between Los Angeles and Miami.

01:03:19.000 There's a lot of sightings of Oswald the summer of 63 down in Miami, which don't make any sense to me.

01:03:25.000 I believe they were William Seymour impersonating him down there.

01:03:29.000 And William Seymour actually and Lauren Hall will get arrested in Dallas in October, about a month before the assassination.

01:03:34.000 They're arrested with a truck full of weapons.

01:03:37.000 They didn't go to jail for the weapons.

01:03:39.000 They went into jail because they got busted with a bottle of speed pills.

01:03:42.000 And so, but that entire case ended up being, they were booked, photographed and everything.

01:03:47.000 It ended up getting deleted from the Dallas police records.

01:03:51.000 There's no record of it anywhere.

01:03:52.000 There's just the testimony of them who said they were arrested.

01:03:56.000 That's kind of crazy, too.

01:03:57.000 But yeah, that's Lauren Hall on the right. 0.99

01:03:59.000 Lauren Hall is really actually, besides his associations with these guys, he's busted because he had a rifle that he had picked up from a guy in Los Angeles, a guy named Richard Hathcock, who ran a like a little private detective agency.

01:04:13.000 And he was holding on to this rifle, which was a Johnson 30-06 rifle.

01:04:17.000 And for some reason, we don't know why, they didn't say they found it, but it's obvious that they did.

01:04:23.000 The FBI, within 24 hours of the assassination, had the rifle, the entire backstory to the rifle, had sent FBI agents who had already talked to Richard Hathcock, and he said straight up that Loren Hall picked up the rifle and told him he was on his way to Dallas.

01:04:36.000 So, doesn't really take much rocket science to figure that one out.

01:04:40.000 Hall was most certainly a shooter on the sixth floor opposite of...

01:04:45.000 Lawrence Howard.

01:04:46.000 And so that rifle got left somewhere.

01:04:48.000 The rumor is it was found by the lawn crew the next day and turned in.

01:04:52.000 But that doesn't leave enough time to get your people in place, you know, to have the person who had the rifle interviewed within 24 hours.

01:04:59.000 My suspicion is that it was left in the book depository and they found it.

01:05:03.000 Because when you look at how many rifles got found in Dealey Plaza that day, We're talking like five rifles, at least, that are known to have been found, that they deny were found.

01:05:13.000 Three Mausers, the Carcano, and the Johnson.

01:05:16.000 And possibly one more, which would be seen in Willis' photo number 10, because there's another man arrested in Dealey Plaza.

01:05:27.000 Which offsets the entire timeline of the assassination.

01:05:30.000 But he's arrested wearing all black, and they took a rifle off of him.

01:05:33.000 And the only way we know about that is because of the Willis 10 photo, plus a few random statements from witnesses.

01:05:40.000 Okay.

01:05:41.000 But that brings us to the grassy knoll, if you want to get onto that.

01:05:45.000 Yeah, no, we definitely will.

01:05:46.000 And these individuals, just so the chat knows, were all, I guess, contractors for the CIA, these three.

01:05:53.000 Right.

01:05:54.000 But the CIA is slick, right?

01:05:55.000 So what they do is they have what's called plausible deniability.

01:05:59.000 And so from what I can tell, this was organized down in mostly in New Orleans.

01:06:05.000 I mean, the connection between all these guys definitely kind of converges With Clay Shaw and David Ferry.

01:06:14.000 But they, of course, had people above them.

01:06:17.000 There's inklings of a guy named Roswell Thompson, who was a partner of Carlos Marcello.

01:06:22.000 Because remember, the mob...

01:06:25.000 Is working with the CIA constantly for the drug importation.

01:06:29.000 And so you have the CIA working with Marcello.

01:06:32.000 So, I mean, there's a record of a meeting with some of Marcello's associates and one of Marcello's brothers with Roswell Thompson and David Ferry and Clay Shaw and a couple other people, a guy named Thomas Beckham.

01:06:48.000 You definitely have oversight going on, but ultimately I found that they really left a lot to people like Cary Thornley.

01:06:58.000 Because when I started to discover things that Cary Thornley had done, like the flyers for the Fair Play for Cuba committee.

01:07:04.000 So let me just preface, Cary Thornley was in the Marines with Oswald for a brief time, all right?

01:07:09.000 That's where he knows Oswald.

01:07:11.000 But I'm pretty confident because of my recent research that Kerry Thornley was paired with Oswald way back when these guys were all still in the Marines.

01:07:18.000 And it had nothing to do with Kennedy.

01:07:20.000 It had to do with getting the spy into the Soviet Union.

01:07:23.000 But Kerry Thornley, he tells The Warren Commission and the FBI and everybody in the world, that he was in the Marine Reserves from 56 to 58, didn't really do anything.

01:07:34.000 He was in high school at the time.

01:07:35.000 And then he gets in the Marine Reserves, or gets in the actual Marines, and he just goes to basic boot camp, and then he meets Oswald, and he just kind of plays down, downplays his entire experience in the Marines.

01:07:46.000 Well, just this past week, I was able to acquire his military records. 0.99

01:07:50.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

01:07:51.000 For Thornton? 1.00

01:07:53.000 What's that?

01:07:53.000 For Kerry Thornley, yeah.

01:07:54.000 For Kerry Thornley, okay.

01:07:55.000 And so Kerry Thornley actually got into the actual Marines in 56, not the reserves, and he had nothing but training for two years.

01:08:04.000 Then, once Oswald is sent, he goes to Atsugi and then he comes back to America.

01:08:09.000 Once he comes back to America, they send Kerry Thornley to Atsugi.

01:08:14.000 And once Kerry Thornley is in Atsugi, he starts to investigate Oswald and Oswald's crew.

01:08:20.000 We know this because it's a statement written by a guy named Ronald Schwinghammer.

01:08:24.000 And Ronald Schwinghammer basically says that he was approached by a guy named Rick Thornley.

01:08:28.000 So you have Kerry Thornley in Atsugi in the Marines using an alias.

01:08:33.000 And that he was taking pictures of where Oswald had worked, and he was asking all these questions about Oswald.

01:08:38.000 Doesn't make any sense.

01:08:39.000 He will provide a cover that he was writing a book about Oswald, and he did.

01:08:43.000 He ends up writing a book, which was finished in 1962, called The Idle Warriors, which is a book about Oswald and the defection to the Soviet Union.

01:08:51.000 It was really more about What do Marines do in downtime, right?

01:08:55.000 When you're trained to kill, but you're just sitting around doing nothing.

01:08:57.000 That was what he said the book was about.

01:08:59.000 But really, he ended up shaping it around Oswald, which is kind of ironic because as you get closer to the assassination and both of these guys are out of the Marines, they connect in New Orleans.

01:09:09.000 And then the setup of Oswald begins and Kerry Thornley was the driving factor behind the setup of Oswald down there.

01:09:16.000 I'm completely convinced of that.

01:09:18.000 And he had a lot of freedom.

01:09:19.000 The aliases, Heidel, Osborn.

01:09:22.000 There's another couple, actually, of the aliases that Oswald allegedly used that were all Marine buddies.

01:09:29.000 But since Oswald wasn't setting himself up, Carrie Thornley was the only other person who was actually in Oswald's group who knew the exact same people Oswald did.

01:09:36.000 So all the aliases you can trace right back to Carrie Thornley, right?

01:09:40.000 But nobody ever talks about this when they talk about the Kennedy assassination.

01:09:43.000 And so Carrie Thornley will eventually be the Oswald lookalike who shoots J.D. Tippett. 0.99

01:09:48.000 And this becomes obvious when you and I keep harping on this.

01:09:51.000 It's about the relationships at play here.

01:09:53.000 You got to understand Who is spending their time with who?

01:09:56.000 Who is working with who?

01:09:58.000 And once you understand the cast of characters down in New Orleans, the people in Daily Plaza, particularly in the Book Depository and at the Daltex, all falls into place.

01:10:08.000 Right?

01:10:08.000 The outside forces that were involved, besides New Orleans, you have the other mob bosses, appeared to have to have sent somebody.

01:10:16.000 I think it's kind of one of their things.

01:10:17.000 If we're going to send somebody, you've got to send somebody.

01:10:19.000 So they ended up sending people from the Cleveland mob, the tramps, the three tramps that are arrested.

01:10:25.000 Those are guys from the Cleveland mob.

01:10:27.000 Danny Green, the tall tramp.

01:10:28.000 Danny Green, the head of the Longshoremen Union at the time. 0.98

01:10:31.000 But he was a mobster.

01:10:32.000 He got put there by the mob.

01:10:34.000 So you've got that.

01:10:36.000 You've got the Chicago outfit.

01:10:37.000 Sends Dave Yarris.

01:10:38.000 They send Lenny Patrick.

01:10:39.000 They send Robert Bernard Baker.

01:10:41.000 Robert Bernard Baker, if you're familiar with Kennedy at all, there's a fat guy who is on top of the overpass at the time of the shooting.

01:10:48.000 You can see him from a distance in the photographs.

01:10:50.000 That's Robert Bernard Baker, 350-pound guy, worked for Jimmy Hoffa, really as an extension of the Chicago outfit.

01:10:57.000 He's up on the overpass and I've got Dave Yarris as one of the shooters who misses and the shot ends up in the grassy area across from the grassy knoll and then it's later dug out of there by somebody and the bullet mysteriously disappears.

01:11:09.000 That's all captured in photographs.

01:11:11.000 So, last but not least, you have Jack Valente on the grassy knoll.

01:11:16.000 Jack Valente.

01:11:17.000 Like I said, born into two mob families.

01:11:19.000 He ends up going off into the war.

01:11:21.000 But he's a bomber pilot, allegedly.

01:11:24.000 But I can't really track his movements after he gets out of bombing school.

01:11:26.000 There's no way he spent that much time, you know, in bombing missions.

01:11:30.000 He allegedly flew 50 bombing missions.

01:11:32.000 But if you're going to be an assassin this good, who's talked about by Otto Skorzeny, Otto Skorzeny identified the Null Shooter as having used the aliases of Max and Zed.

01:11:43.000 And so then I find documents in the ZR rifle files where Max actually is referred to Frank Sturgis by Santos Traficante, which totally fit my separate research that Valenti was loyal to the Traficantes because of the familial connection to Tampa, which is kind of how the mob works, right?

01:12:00.000 So everything started to fall into place around Valenti for me.

01:12:05.000 There's a couple aliases, Rosani and Rosanoff.

01:12:09.000 Damn it, if I could identify Rosani and Rosanoff as Jack Valenti and Jean-Pierre Lafitte, that will be the icing on the cake of everything.

01:12:16.000 Unfortunately, I don't think I'll ever be able to do that. 0.98

01:12:18.000 But Jack Valenti, nonetheless, he goes on to run the Motion Picture Association of America.

01:12:24.000 He was the guy behind the movie rating system.

01:12:27.000 The movie ratings, actually when you really dig into it, it was a form of censorship.

01:12:32.000 Jack Valenti also sat on the board of the Recording Industry Association of America, the RIAA, which was music, right?

01:12:42.000 He sat on that with a guy named Charles Bronfman.

01:12:46.000 So what does that mean?

01:12:47.000 It means Jack Valenti was the head of the censorship industrial complex before we had what we consider today.

01:12:52.000 They talk about the censorship industrial complex, right?

01:12:55.000 He was on the movie boards.

01:12:57.000 He was on music boards.

01:12:58.000 It was his job to censor Americans, and that's what he did, and that's what the movie rating system ultimately was.

01:13:05.000 The life that he lived after the assassination, you can tell he did his job, he did it well, and he was rewarded more than anyone else.

01:13:13.000 Because David Ferry was up there on the knoll also, and they threw that guy to the wolves afterwards.

01:13:18.000 You'd think that he'd have some money or anything?

01:13:19.000 No.

01:13:20.000 David Ferry ended up blackmailing Carlos Marcello for about 50 grand, and Carlos Marcello gave it to him, and he opened a gas station with it that folded within nine months.

01:13:31.000 Question for you, with Valenti, because you can see him here.

01:13:35.000 I got a picture up for the chat to see.

01:13:37.000 You can literally see Jack Valenti as Linda B. Johnson is being sworn in with, obviously, Jackie Kenny next to him with the blood still on her dress.

01:13:44.000 So, the guy that killed her husband, if I'm not mistaken, he shot the headshot, is right there in Air Force One with the widow.

01:13:54.000 Yes.

01:13:55.000 Incredible.

01:13:55.000 So let me explain.

01:13:56.000 Actually, I'll explain as I go through the slides, because I got him all queued up, ready to go.

01:14:00.000 Okay.

01:14:00.000 So, yeah.

01:14:01.000 And Jack Valenti was a CIA asset as well, right?

01:14:03.000 And he was actually, he was an aide to Lynda B. Johnson.

01:14:06.000 And did Lynda B. Johnson know that- I don't think so.

01:14:09.000 People say he did, but here's the deal.

01:14:11.000 Are you going to want your next president, the guy who's in line, are you going to want him to know any details at all?

01:14:17.000 Yeah.

01:14:17.000 I don't think so, because if he knows anything, he can talk eventually.

01:14:21.000 True, yeah.

01:14:23.000 I honestly think to the day he died, he never really knew the full details.

01:14:26.000 And honestly, even though Jack Valenti would be his right-hand man for the next three years in the White House, I don't know that he ever knew that Valenti was the shooter.

01:14:37.000 Or if he did, I think maybe that was their way of keeping him in line.

01:14:42.000 Yeah, because I'm literally- Hey, you know what I did to Kennedy?

01:14:44.000 I could do that to you too.

01:14:45.000 This photograph right here with Jack Valenti in the back, he's the only person that looks extremely stressed.

01:14:51.000 As Lynda B. Johnson is being, you know, sworn in.

01:14:54.000 And, you know, you can see that it looks like he's sweating a bit, you know, which would make sense.

01:14:58.000 Obviously, it was wasn't like it was a warm day in Dallas that day.

01:15:02.000 And, you know, shooting someone in a full on suit and then from the grass, you know, I guess I'm running to Air Force One.

01:15:08.000 But OK, sorry.

01:15:10.000 So you wanted to you had something you wanted to show your PowerPoint, right?

01:15:13.000 Yeah, well, I'll go ahead and I'll show how the grassy knoll stuff went down.

01:15:16.000 Yeah.

01:15:17.000 And then I'll show a couple slides on what happened in the book depository.

01:15:21.000 And from there, we'll hop over to Oswald.

01:15:23.000 Okay.

01:15:27.000 All right.

01:15:28.000 You can see this, right?

01:15:29.000 Yep, I can see it.

01:15:30.000 All right.

01:15:31.000 So this is Altgen's photo number seven.

01:15:35.000 Alton's photo number seven is extremely important.

01:15:38.000 First off, shots have already been fired, but everyone's calm.

01:15:40.000 And how do we know shots have already been fired?

01:15:42.000 Because you have two people here who are already panicking.

01:15:44.000 The guy all the way on the right-hand side, the guy in the construction hat, he is already panicking.

01:15:50.000 When you read this, I forget what his name is offhand, but when you read his statements to the FBI... Can you point him out real quick for us?

01:15:55.000 Yeah, he's right here.

01:15:57.000 Okay, gotcha.

01:15:59.000 That guy's already, he's ready, he's jumping, he's ready to go.

01:16:02.000 And he even said that when the FBI interviewed him.

01:16:04.000 He was a construction worker on break, and as soon as he heard shots, he started to jump and move and get out of there.

01:16:09.000 And look at everyone else, even the Secret Service, they're all calm.

01:16:12.000 There's another woman between number three and four. 1.00

01:16:14.000 She's diving onto the ground.

01:16:16.000 You can see her in some of the other photographs.

01:16:18.000 She knows what's going on.

01:16:19.000 She heard shots and she didn't expect that, so she's getting down.

01:16:21.000 Everyone else is just standing there calm.

01:16:23.000 Right?

01:16:24.000 The Secret Service had looked around like, what was that?

01:16:26.000 You can't see it in this photo.

01:16:27.000 That's in Alton's photo number.

01:16:29.000 I think it's an Alton's photo number three.

01:16:31.000 But everyone's calm and that always freaked me out how they could be so calm when shots are already being fired and two people are already panicking.

01:16:38.000 But this shot here, you have eight people that you can see and two people who are out of sight, Samuel King and Emery Roberts.

01:16:44.000 They're in the front seats.

01:16:45.000 But you have ten people on this car, but two of them are going to get off.

01:16:49.000 You have Clint Hill, who gets out, and Dave Powers, who gets out of the car.

01:16:55.000 So you'll only have eight.

01:16:57.000 This is the Secret Service follow-up car.

01:16:59.000 Everyone else stays in the car, and the official story is that eight people rode to Parkland.

01:17:05.000 This is Clint Hill.

01:17:06.000 He got out of the car and jumped onto the back of the President's limousine, ran to them from the Secret Service car.

01:17:12.000 I'm going to skip some of these statements because they're not overly important at the moment.

01:17:16.000 So then you have right here, this is McIntyre photo number one.

01:17:20.000 And what you see here, I'll zoom in on it.

01:17:24.000 You only have one person on the side of the Secret Service car right now, and it's neither of the Secret Service agents.

01:17:29.000 Both Secret Service agents on the side of the car have already entered the car.

01:17:32.000 And we know this because this person here has a flat top.

01:17:35.000 And when you come to this next photo, you can clearly see it's a flat top.

01:17:39.000 It's not either of the people who were on the side of the car before.

01:17:42.000 So now when you get to this photo here, when you count the people in the car, there's now 10 people on the car when there should only be eight.

01:17:49.000 They added two people.

01:17:52.000 So the original Secret Service men were John D. Jack Reedy and Paul E. Landis.

01:17:56.000 They're both white guys.

01:17:58.000 They're both about six foot tall.

01:18:00.000 You can see how high they are, how tall they are in comparison to the frame of the vehicle.

01:18:05.000 This is extremely important because When we see the shooter and his handler on the side of the Secret Service car, which is coming up in the next frame, that you'll see that they're short.

01:18:17.000 See tall guys, tall white guys in this photo here.

01:18:20.000 So the two people that they picked up were Jack Valenti and David Morales.

01:18:23.000 Jack Valenti being the shooter on the grassy knoll who came over the top of the overpass and was picked up on the other side.

01:18:30.000 David Morales was in Dealey Plaza.

01:18:33.000 And when you have a lot of witnesses who said that the president's limousine stopped or slowed, a lot of people try to say that it stopped or slowed to allow the shooter to shoot him.

01:18:43.000 Can we zoom in on those two real quick?

01:18:43.000 Can we zoom in on Jack Valenti and David Morales who are now on the vehicle?

01:18:47.000 Yes.

01:18:48.000 We can zoom in on them.

01:18:49.000 Oh, boom.

01:18:49.000 Okay.

01:18:50.000 There you go.

01:18:51.000 So, Jack Valenti is only 5'4".

01:18:53.000 Look how short he is compared to.

01:18:55.000 And David Morales is only 5'9", compared to the two guys who were on the car who were 6' tall. 0.70

01:19:01.000 Plus, David Morales is Hispanic and black.

01:19:05.000 He's darker skinned.

01:19:06.000 I mean, he's a light skinned, but he's darker skinned than anybody else.

01:19:09.000 And you can kind of see that.

01:19:10.000 And you can see he's got a mustache here, right?

01:19:12.000 He's wearing glasses and he got a flat top.

01:19:15.000 And so...

01:19:16.000 He stepped on in Dealey Plaza when the two Secret Service agents got into the middle row.

01:19:20.000 And that's the kicker, because one of them, John Reedy, he says that he got in the front row, right?

01:19:26.000 John D. Jack Reedy claims to have gotten into the Secret Service car in Dealey Plaza, but he said he got into the front row of seats right next to Emery Roberts.

01:19:36.000 Obviously, he lied because he's not there.

01:19:39.000 He's in the middle row.

01:19:40.000 And being in the middle row, there should only be one person there.

01:19:42.000 And that should be Kenny O'Donnell.

01:19:44.000 And Kenny O'Donnell is surrounded by two other guys.

01:19:47.000 Kenny O'Donnell is number seven here.

01:19:49.000 Number six, you can see number six is head right there.

01:19:51.000 I mean, just clearly three people in that second row.

01:19:54.000 And that's the key to the entire assassination right there.

01:19:59.000 The two secrets and two secret service agents, and one of them is still alive.

01:20:02.000 You've got Paul Landis who's going around saying that he planted the magic bullet and that all this stuff when he was a willing participant in his assassination.

01:20:11.000 In 61 years, he's never mentioned that they stopped and picked up a passenger in Dealey Plaza and then one on the other side of the overpass.

01:20:18.000 He's never mentioned that in all this time.

01:20:20.000 Now let's get to the magic bullet.

01:20:22.000 I don't think I have any slides on it, but I'll tell the story.

01:20:24.000 So these guys from here head to Parkland Hospital.

01:20:27.000 Jack Valenti allegedly didn't go to Parkland.

01:20:30.000 He allegedly went to the trademark where he deals with Evelyn Lincoln and Pamela Tonur and a whole bunch of the Kennedy secretaries.

01:20:36.000 But in my book, as it explains, all that's a lie.

01:20:40.000 None of the people who were there who he says he was with provide an alibi for him at any time.

01:20:44.000 And so he ends up at Parkland Hospital where he puts himself in the basement.

01:20:48.000 And what happened in the basement?

01:20:49.000 That's where they found the magic bullet.

01:20:53.000 So, basically he was the shooter.

01:20:55.000 He used an, if I'm not mistaken, he also used an Enfield 303 because later on they will attempt to pull Buell Frazier into this.

01:21:03.000 He will be arrested that day and allegedly they take off of him an Enfield 303 in boxes of 303 ammunition.

01:21:10.000 Now, this makes perfect sense when you realize that they were trying to set Buell Frazier up at the shooting range where they dropped the name Buell Frazier as having given Oswald a ride there.

01:21:19.000 Oswald, who was William Seymour, who was working at the book depository, that's how he knew Buell Frazier.

01:21:23.000 He tells the guy at the shooting range that he was brought there by a guy named Frazier, right?

01:21:29.000 And this is told to the FBI. So they're laying a false trail to Buell Frazier this whole time, right?

01:21:34.000 And so when they get to the Parkland Hospital, the rifle that he used, he held onto, right, from the knoll to this vehicle here, which is probably in the backseat somewhere.

01:21:46.000 Then he gets out, he plants the magic bullet, and then the rifle is probably at Parkland handed off to Bill Decker or one of his guys, because that rifle shortly after this will end up at Buell Frazier's house when they arrest him.

01:22:02.000 How do I know it's the same rifle?

01:22:03.000 Because of course it's the same rifle, right?

01:22:05.000 These guys were meticulous.

01:22:06.000 And why plant the magic bullet, which originally was a 303 round, right?

01:22:10.000 So the magic bullet we see today is a Manlicker Carcano round. 0.83

01:22:13.000 It's in perfect condition.

01:22:14.000 It's pristine.

01:22:15.000 That thing didn't hit anything.

01:22:16.000 It was shot into cotton wadding or water.

01:22:20.000 The two guys who were at the Parkland Hospital, Daryl Tomlinson and O.P. Wright, both of those guys told the FBI and the Secret Service when they showed up, told them that it was a pointed tip bullet.

01:22:31.000 And the Carcano is not a pointed tip bullet.

01:22:34.000 And O.P. Wright specifically said it was a.303 round.

01:22:39.000 That bullet went from them to Richard Johnson, the Secret Service agent.

01:22:42.000 It then went to the FBI. And once it got to the FBI, you would think the Secret Service would be the ones to obfuscate it, but no, the FBI did.

01:22:50.000 And why did the FBI obfuscate it?

01:22:52.000 Well, That, to me, goes back to Oswald and Oswald's life and the FBI's role in handling Oswald as he's growing up.

01:23:03.000 I think that's the primary driving factor behind the FBI's involvement was not so much the assassination and cover up, but covering up I had this conversation earlier, 50 years of covert activity by not only the CIA, who only goes back to 47, 20 years at this point, but everyone seems to forget about Naval Intelligence, which has been doing covert ops since like the 1800s.

01:23:26.000 Right?

01:23:26.000 So I believe naval intelligence played a big role in the nurturing of Oswald, which ultimately led to this multi-agency cooperative plot to get a spy into the Soviet Union, which then, once it was transformed into the assassination plot and used to kind of tie up loose ends, I think that's when people like Hoover were like, I think when he found out that it was Oswald who was being the patsy in this assassination, I think his jaw probably hit the floor because he'd been well aware of what Oswald was doing in the Soviet Union.

01:23:55.000 And if you ask me, he probably knew everything Oswald was doing for decades before.

01:24:00.000 Right?

01:24:01.000 Since he was born, probably.

01:24:02.000 It seems to me Hoover knew a whole lot more than he ever let on about Oswald because he lets things slip at times and knows things he shouldn't know.

01:24:12.000 So From here, I mean, this is David Morales and Jack Valenti, a handler and a shooter, and that's always how it goes.

01:24:19.000 Every assassination, whether the CIA or the mafia, from what I can tell, is always a pair, a spotter and a shooter.

01:24:26.000 And I think the same thing applied to Dave Yaris, who had Lenny Patrick with him, and both of those guys.

01:24:31.000 I'll tell that story another time.

01:24:32.000 But I think it's always done like this.

01:24:34.000 And so...

01:24:36.000 And he was wearing a black suit.

01:24:37.000 I got the picture right here with Lyndon B. Johnson being sworn in.

01:24:41.000 And you can see Jack Valenti is wearing a black suit in this photo as well.

01:24:44.000 His disheveled nature, I think, is kind of a hint towards it. 0.98

01:24:48.000 But if you read my book and you get to the chapter on what Jack Valenti's alibi was, once the alibi falls apart, you realize, damn, he made all this stuff up.

01:24:57.000 He went to great lengths to tell a very dramatic story about what he did. 0.84

01:25:00.000 So here we go.

01:25:01.000 I have a picture of William Seymour, and I have the video of this, and you can see much more detail in the video, but that's William Seymour.

01:25:07.000 And the guy in the background is a guy named Ira Trantham.

01:25:11.000 Ira Trantham, the detective in that gray coat, he's not supposed to be there for at least another 10 minutes at all.

01:25:16.000 When you read his statement, he got stuck in traffic and all this stuff, and he doesn't show up for another 10 minutes.

01:25:22.000 You see, what happens here is William Seymour is in the video.

01:25:24.000 He gets a signal from Trantham.

01:25:26.000 So they're in on this together.

01:25:27.000 Trantham's clearly in on this because later on, a guy will get arrested named Larry Flohrer.

01:25:31.000 He'll be arrested allegedly out of the Daltex building, but really it was the county records building.

01:25:35.000 But Larry Flohrer Is really just a cover for Ted Shackley.

01:25:39.000 Ted Shackley basically gets arrested here in Daily Plaza under the name Larry Flora, but then they do a typical CIA swap and Ted Shackley is let out the back door.

01:25:49.000 And then Larry Flora actually goes into custody.

01:25:53.000 It's crazy.

01:25:53.000 It's a crazy story.

01:25:54.000 It's more of the body double switching stuff, which after we get through with Oswald won't seem as crazy anymore.

01:25:58.000 But what I'm trying to get to is the Book Depository in particular.

01:26:02.000 So we'll start with this Richard Randolph Carr.

01:26:04.000 And this is a statement from The Trial of Clay Shaw.

01:26:06.000 So he's up, he's working in a building adjacent to the Book Depository so he can see into like the fifth floor, the sixth floor really close.

01:26:15.000 So when he's up there, he sees a guy over in the book depository, and he basically describes him as having...

01:26:23.000 There's this guy on the right.

01:26:25.000 I'll just get to the point.

01:26:26.000 It's this guy on the right.

01:26:26.000 He describes him as having a tan sport coat and a hat and a white shirt and these pants.

01:26:32.000 And he describes where he walks and all this stuff.

01:26:33.000 And then I find this matching the exact description in the background of a photograph.

01:26:37.000 He says, while I was on Houston Street near Commerce, Intersection, I saw a man whom I believe was identical with the man I seen earlier, looking out of the window of the Texas School Book Depository building.

01:26:46.000 This man was walking very fast, proceeded on Houston Street, south to Commerce, then east on Commerce Street to Record Street, which is one block south of Houston.

01:26:54.000 This man got into a 1961 or 62, it's actually a 52, gray Rambler station wagon, which was just parked north of Commerce on Record Street.

01:27:02.000 The station wagon, which had Texas license on it, was driven by a young Negro man and driven off. 0.99

01:27:07.000 So Lawrence Howard is often referred to as a Negro.

01:27:10.000 In Dealey Plaza, which is really kind of interesting.

01:27:13.000 I guess he was a very dark, complected guy at the time.

01:27:17.000 So, all right, we're going to get to the book depository and what happened inside of the book depository.

01:27:21.000 And this is from a woman named Vicki Adams.

01:27:24.000 Vicki Adams worked for the Scott Forsman Company, who was a CIA contractor, and she was on the fourth floor.

01:27:30.000 The assassination happens.

01:27:31.000 She attempts to get down in the elevator, but she can't because the power has been cut to the building and it hasn't been turned back on yet.

01:27:37.000 So her and another woman, they take the stairs down in a hurried manner.

01:27:42.000 And the thing about Vicki Adams is that she's always used So that people could say, well, Oswald couldn't have come down the stairs, as he's alleged to, because Vicky Adams was on the stairs and Oswald didn't pass her.

01:27:56.000 So obviously Oswald didn't come down the stairs.

01:27:58.000 That's the...

01:27:59.000 Official conspiracy theory story surrounding Vicki Adams.

01:28:02.000 But really, that's just to distract you from what really happened with Vicki Adams.

01:28:06.000 So Vicki Adams gets to the bottom of the stairs and directly in front of her is William Shelley and Billy Lovelady, who are one of the bosses of the book depository and a guy who worked allegedly with Oswald.

01:28:18.000 Well, where she happens to see them at This is the stairs.

01:28:22.000 She comes down.

01:28:23.000 She sees two of them.

01:28:24.000 She files multiple reports about this.

01:28:26.000 None of this makes it into the official story or the official conspiracy theory.

01:28:29.000 Nobody ever talks about this aspect of the assassination for some reason.

01:28:34.000 But she comes down, she sees them, and it's reported to the FBI, the Dallas police.

01:28:39.000 She tells everybody.

01:28:39.000 She testifies to it at the Warren Commission.

01:28:42.000 Bill Shelley, who is one of the bosses of the depository, he never mentions it in his statement that he's inside.

01:28:47.000 He says he's outside, which he was.

01:28:50.000 And as soon as the shooting happened, he runs into Dealey Plaza.

01:28:53.000 But that's not what really happened.

01:28:55.000 Same thing with Billy Lovelady.

01:28:56.000 He said the exact same thing, that he Ran into Dealey Plaza and then came back a couple of minutes later.

01:29:01.000 He never said anything about going inside of the book depository at any time.

01:29:06.000 So the Warren Commission, she's being asked, the Warren Commission was the commission that was put together after the assassination to do a thorough investigation.

01:29:13.000 But really the purpose of the Warren Commission was to prevent independent investigation, meaning they didn't want anybody outside their little clique Doing any type of official investigations.

01:29:25.000 So they basically limited to the FBI and some of the Dallas police stuff.

01:29:29.000 And that was it.

01:29:30.000 I mean, they didn't let any other federal organizations get involved because they needed to control the evidence.

01:29:35.000 And one thing I need to say is that the Dallas police, when they went out to Oswald's place and Ruth Payne's place, they ended up collecting 230 pieces of evidence, give or take.

01:29:45.000 But secretly on November 23rd, the FBI came and confiscated all of it.

01:29:50.000 Again, in secret on the 26th, they return the evidence to the Dallas police, but instead of having 230 items, there's well over 450 items.

01:29:59.000 So, in those three days, the FBI fabricated over 200 pieces of evidence, things that Oswald would never have had in his possession in the first place.

01:30:10.000 Ten-year-old tax documents.

01:30:12.000 That would indicate a certain year that he worked at a place.

01:30:14.000 They've manufactured tax documents, employment cards, you name it.

01:30:19.000 And thanks to John Armstrong, whose work we're going to talk about here coming up.

01:30:24.000 Thanks to John Armstrong, who had a lot of the documents analyzed that the FBI had returned to the Dallas police in this mass dumping of evidence that they fabricated, he found that in regards to a lot of the tax documents, no matter what company, what year, what state, where they were, who ran the place, All the tax documents were typed on the same typewriter.

01:30:44.000 So they gave themselves away by faking the evidence by typing them all in the same typewriter, which really is kind of funny because the OSS got busted doing the same thing in World War II with the Nazis.

01:30:54.000 They fabricated over 300 documents and got busted because the vast majority were done on the same typewriter, just like the FBI did here.

01:31:01.000 But I guess that's what they had to do.

01:31:03.000 So what we're looking at now is a portion of Warren Commission testimony from Vicki Adams.

01:31:09.000 She has shown a diagram.

01:31:11.000 The diagram is allegedly Commission's Exhibit 496, but when we look at what 496 actually is, 496 is a copy of Oswald's job application at the book depository.

01:31:23.000 And honestly, now that I'm seeing this, and after having familiarized myself with tons of documents written in Oswald's hand, this doesn't look like Oswald's handwriting now that I'm actually looking at this.

01:31:32.000 It was not nearly as swirly.

01:31:34.000 He never did this with his O's.

01:31:36.000 None of it.

01:31:37.000 You see anything?

01:31:39.000 And there was always a pronounced...

01:31:40.000 I'm not even a document examiner, but this is just obvious right on his face.

01:31:45.000 But what's really killer here is that the document's 496 is supposed to be a diagram.

01:31:53.000 So they show her a diagram of the first floor, and she points to where she saw Billy Shelley and Billy Lovelady.

01:31:59.000 But obviously that diagram has since been disappeared and replaced with this document.

01:32:05.000 But this is the area that she saw them in.

01:32:07.000 She saw them directly in front of the electric panel.

01:32:09.000 And a woman named Geneva Hine provided a statement that said it was about 1229 and she was on the phone when the power went out.

01:32:18.000 And so basically what happened is William Shelley killed the power of the building.

01:32:21.000 He then goes out front.

01:32:23.000 The assassination happens.

01:32:24.000 He and Billy Lovelady, who's obviously in on this with him, run back into the building.

01:32:29.000 He then turns the power back on.

01:32:30.000 And why would they do this?

01:32:33.000 Because they needed the elevator to stay planted on the sixth floor.

01:32:36.000 Look at what happened.

01:32:37.000 Vicki Adams tried to get the elevator and it wouldn't work. 1.00

01:32:40.000 Imagine if it did work.

01:32:41.000 The shooters on the sixth floor would be stuck there, right?

01:32:44.000 So the power of the building's cut.

01:32:46.000 They're in the elevator.

01:32:47.000 He goes back in.

01:32:48.000 She goes down the stairs.

01:32:49.000 She sees them.

01:32:50.000 He puts the power back on.

01:32:51.000 Then...

01:32:52.000 Three of them come down in the elevator.

01:32:56.000 Lawrence Howard and Sergi Arcacha, who was on the roof.

01:32:59.000 He's another guy from New Orleans.

01:33:00.000 They head out the back door.

01:33:01.000 They get into a green Rambler station wagon, which was seen by Richard Randolph Carr.

01:33:07.000 This is the Alton's photo, I believe, number three.

01:33:09.000 That is clearly not Oswald in front.

01:33:12.000 That is Billy Lovelady in front before he ran back in with William Shelley and turned the power back onto the building.

01:33:18.000 Then we get, and this will be the last thing I cover before we hop over to Oswald, Like I said, I have no evidence that Oswald was ever there that day.

01:33:26.000 The ride to work falls apart.

01:33:28.000 His activities inside the building can be explained by the fact that William Seymour was there.

01:33:32.000 And his fleeing the building at exactly 12.33 PM, that doesn't make any sense either.

01:33:39.000 And when you dig into the statements of these two guys who allegedly are the ones who interacted with him, you'll come to realize that nobody saw him leave, right?

01:33:46.000 The story of getting there falls apart, the story of being there falls apart, and the story of leaving falls apart.

01:33:50.000 So what does that tell you?

01:33:51.000 He was never there.

01:33:52.000 And to me, it's the most obvious thing in the world that people have a hard time wrapping their head around because that means that everybody's complicit in this massive conspiracy.

01:34:00.000 And that's pretty damn true, because conspiracies aren't about getting together in a small, smoky room.

01:34:04.000 They're about taking orders.

01:34:06.000 And that's what this was. 0.92

01:34:07.000 Multiple organizations with soldiers on the ground taking orders probably didn't have a goddamn clue what they were involved in half the time in the buildup to the assassination, right?

01:34:15.000 So, Pierce Allman, he basically, the modern version of his story is that he Saw Oswald coming down the steps. 0.64

01:34:25.000 He obviously didn't know who he was, but it's a young guy.

01:34:27.000 He asks him, where's the phone?

01:34:29.000 And he tells him where there's a phone, and he goes in, and that's the story, right?

01:34:34.000 But that didn't happen.

01:34:35.000 He says that he didn't know Lee Harvey Oswald at the time.

01:34:38.000 He does not remember seeing him in or around the depository, right?

01:34:41.000 So he says he doesn't know Marina or Jack Ruby or any of that stuff. 0.98

01:34:44.000 So obviously, the story that he tells in the modern era, or before he died, is total bullshit. 0.97

01:34:51.000 This is his original statement. 0.98

01:34:53.000 He doesn't know nothing.

01:34:54.000 The guy he was with, Terrence Ford, same thing.

01:34:57.000 He said he wasn't acquainted with any of these guys and he doesn't remember seeing any of them.

01:35:00.000 Then you get to Robert McNeil, same thing.

01:35:04.000 In the modern era, it's the same exact story, which is weird enough in and of itself that he would have the exact same story as Pierre Solman when they weren't together.

01:35:12.000 But he does.

01:35:13.000 He tells the same exact story.

01:35:14.000 And that story falls apart when you read this statement and you realize that he didn't interact with Oswald at all.

01:35:19.000 And in fact, the way and the manner in which he interacted with anybody there didn't even match.

01:35:24.000 He interacted with three people who were inside the building, not one person who was outside the building.

01:35:28.000 And then his New York news desk places the time of his call, because he went in there to use the phone, at 1236 Now, this 1236 PM rewrites the entire timeline of the assassination, because what he says here, if I can find it, he says that no cops entered the building before me or until I left.

01:35:50.000 He says, I do not believe any police officers entered the building before me or until I left.

01:35:55.000 Well, if they had, he would have known it because the story about the cops entering the building has to do with Baker and truly Officer Baker, who's the motorcycle cop who gets off and runs in and allegedly Confronts Oswald inside the second floor lunchroom while he's drinking a Coke, right?

01:36:10.000 That's within 90 seconds of the assassination.

01:36:13.000 Well, this story is a complete fabrication.

01:36:15.000 They never did it.

01:36:16.000 They never did run in there 90 seconds afterwards because Robert McNeil would know because within 30 seconds of that, all the other cops ran into the building.

01:36:23.000 So obviously the timeline is completely off and we know this thanks to this timestamp from the New York Times.

01:36:29.000 So what really happened is that Baker The motorcycle cop who gets off the vehicle and runs towards the book depository door.

01:36:38.000 Well, if you watch the couch film, which is what he's captured in, he doesn't go to the book depository front door.

01:36:43.000 He runs past it to Houston Street.

01:36:45.000 And why?

01:36:46.000 Because he saw that, in my opinion, and based on the evidence, kind of points at this, He saw the shooter at the Daltex who was below the fire escape outside.

01:36:55.000 He was not inside the building.

01:36:57.000 He was on a ledge directly below the fire escape.

01:37:00.000 He runs north on Houston Street, and I think Baker chased after him.

01:37:05.000 Then fast forward a couple minutes, this guy is in custody.

01:37:08.000 He's wearing all black and they've taken a rifle off of him.

01:37:11.000 And this is captured in the Willis 10 photo.

01:37:13.000 Even Willis says they arrested a guy in that photo that's what he took a picture of.

01:37:16.000 He'll later backtrack on the story, but his initial statements on it are always the initial statements are always truer than the backtrack stories later on.

01:37:24.000 So that to me tells me that Baker couldn't have made it in the building 90 seconds after the assassination, that it must have been further.

01:37:29.000 It must have been way after you have Robert McNeil's timestamp at 1236. And this makes perfect sense to me because let me see if I can find it.

01:37:39.000 So those are the three guys in the couch film.

01:37:42.000 And here, I believe you can see in the photograph, you can see the hands and the head of the person holding a rifle underneath the fire escape there.

01:37:51.000 I've identified this person as Emilio Santana, who rode to Dallas with Sergio Arcacha after they were seen leaving New Orleans heading to Dallas.

01:38:00.000 I don't want to get into circumstances of that.

01:38:02.000 That'll take forever.

01:38:05.000 This is the Willis 10 photo.

01:38:07.000 We have a man in black being taken into custody.

01:38:09.000 In the background, you see a rifle there.

01:38:11.000 To me, this happened around 1236, 1237 maybe.

01:38:15.000 And then Baker and Truly will run into the book depository.

01:38:19.000 And so this is a handwritten statement from Officer Baker.

01:38:24.000 All right.

01:38:25.000 And he lies in part of it and he tells the truth in part of it.

01:38:28.000 And so it's hilarious how he outlines this.

01:38:30.000 He said, I followed the man to the rear of the building and he said, let's take the elevator.

01:38:34.000 The elevator was hung several floors up, so we used the stairs instead.

01:38:38.000 We searched the third or on the third or fourth floor.

01:38:42.000 As we reached the third or fourth floor, I saw a man walking away from the stairway.

01:38:45.000 I called to the man and he turned around and come back towards me.

01:38:49.000 The manager said, I know that man, he works here.

01:38:51.000 And then turned, the man walked away, right?

01:38:54.000 He turned the man loose up to the top floor they went.

01:38:57.000 So what does that mean?

01:38:58.000 This is the exact story of the Oswald in the lunchroom with a Coke story, where Oswald's identified by Roy Trulli as an employee, and he says, I know that man, he works here.

01:39:07.000 That even made it into the JFK movie, right?

01:39:09.000 But that never happened.

01:39:10.000 It's pure myth.

01:39:11.000 It actually happened on the stairwell between the third and fourth floors, and the man was not Oswald.

01:39:16.000 It was William Seymour because As he will say in a statement coming up, the man was wearing a light brown jacket, right?

01:39:24.000 Oswald wasn't wearing a jacket.

01:39:25.000 He didn't have a jacket.

01:39:26.000 The story is he had to go home to get his jacket, right?

01:39:29.000 So clearly, not Oswald, the man they're dealing with.

01:39:31.000 But this is the important part.

01:39:33.000 He was identified as an employee by Roy Trulli.

01:39:37.000 Roy Trulli, okay?

01:39:39.000 We'll talk about Roy Trulli later when we get to a guy named Fred Korth, who was the Secretary of the Navy, who basically managed Oswald all throughout his life.

01:39:47.000 But Roy Trulli is connected to Oswald in more ways than one, not just through the book depository.

01:39:52.000 So, but here, this is from J.W. Fritz, who was from Dallas Police, Captain Dallas Police.

01:40:00.000 Basically, he backs up the story of Baker stopping the man on the third or fourth floor, not in the lunchroom, right?

01:40:07.000 So we have multiple pieces of documentation that disproved the lunchroom story.

01:40:12.000 This is key here.

01:40:15.000 The picture I showed you earlier was of William Seymour in the railroad yard and he's wearing a light brown jacket.

01:40:19.000 Yep.

01:40:20.000 Right here, you got the Oswald double, right?

01:40:24.000 When we get to the real Oswald doubles later on, it's going to blow your mind.

01:40:29.000 David Bellen, he's talking to Baker and he asks him about what the guy was wearing because Oswald was wearing a dark brown shirt That was buttoned at the bottom, and he had a white T-shirt on underneath.

01:40:41.000 That's the description David Bellen's looking for, okay?

01:40:44.000 So he asked Baker what he looks like, and he says, at the particular time I was looking at his face, it seemed to me he had a light brown jacket on and maybe some kind of white-looking shirt.

01:40:51.000 It's actually like a light blue polo shirt, believe it or not.

01:40:55.000 And it was hanging out to its side.

01:40:56.000 It was kind of dim in there, but it was hanging out to his side.

01:41:00.000 And he's handing him commissions exhibit 150, which is, I'm assuming, a picture of the dark brown shirt.

01:41:06.000 He goes, have you ever seen this before?

01:41:08.000 And remember, Baker will later see the allegedly real Oswald in the office of the Dallas police where he sees him wearing the dark brown shirt, okay?

01:41:16.000 And so he's questioning him about the comparison between the light brown jacket and the dark brown shirt.

01:41:20.000 And he goes, he asked him if this is the shirt that he was wearing.

01:41:22.000 And he goes, I wouldn't be sure of that.

01:41:24.000 It seemed to me that the other shirt was a bit darker, meaning the shirt that he was brought into the police department compared to the jacket that he was wearing was darker.

01:41:32.000 So it was clearly never Oswald inside the book depository, ever.

01:41:38.000 This is that picture again.

01:41:39.000 William Seymour, he's got the receding hairline.

01:41:41.000 He's thin.

01:41:42.000 He looks just like Oswald.

01:41:43.000 He looked enough like Oswald to where when Roger Craig sees him flee out the side of the book depository, which we're going to talk about now.

01:41:50.000 That he identifies him as Oswald and he thought it was the same guy he saw in the book deposit.

01:41:54.000 Remember, they weren't together and they weren't scrutinized, but he describes him as wearing the light brown.

01:41:58.000 He thought it was a light brown shirt, but it's obviously this jacket here.

01:42:02.000 Roger Craig, interesting guy.

01:42:04.000 It seemed like he was on the right side of everything, but I can't really determine if he was telling the truth about a couple of things that seemed to conflict with some of my other research.

01:42:11.000 William Seymour looked enough like Oswald to where he could pass for him.

01:42:16.000 Later, William Seymour and Lawrence Howard will be seen getting on a CIA plane next to an aqueduct flying out of Dallas.

01:42:24.000 This is testified to by a guy named Robert Vinson, who was on that plane.

01:42:27.000 So, really interesting stuff.

01:42:29.000 This is the best part for me.

01:42:31.000 The delay in the timeline, as per Robert McNeil's phone call to New York, timestamping it at 1236, makes perfect sense because it indicates that they cut this guy loose on the third or fourth floor wearing the light brown jacket very close to 1240 p.m.

01:42:48.000 Very close, 1239 most likely.

01:42:50.000 They cut him loose because he's identified as an employee.

01:42:53.000 The two of them go continue up to the roof.

01:42:55.000 This person, William Seymour, who is impersonating Oswald at this point, he goes down the stairs, he leaves outside the side door of the book depository, And he comes down the hill where he's seen by Roger Craig and a guy named Marvin Robinson.

01:43:08.000 Then he gets into a light green Nash Rambler station wagon.

01:43:12.000 And that's the light green Nash Rambler that Roger Craig will eventually say he saw a Negro driving, right? 0.90

01:43:21.000 Let me see if I got any notes on that.

01:43:22.000 This is a statement from Marvin Robinson.

01:43:24.000 Yeah, this is him talking to Jim Garrison.

01:43:26.000 This is pretty interesting.

01:43:27.000 I had several meetings with Jim Garrison.

01:43:28.000 He showed me numerous pictures taken in Dealey Plaza on November 22nd, 63. Among them was a picture of a Latin male.

01:43:33.000 I recognized him as being the same man I had seen driving the Rambler station wagon, in which I had seen Oswald leave the book depository area.

01:43:40.000 I was surprised, and I asked Jim who the man was.

01:43:43.000 He didn't know.

01:43:44.000 You know, Jim Garrison doesn't have a file on Lawrence Howard, William Seymour, or Lauren Hall, but he knows exactly who those guys are, which tells me Garrison's files were basically robbed.

01:43:52.000 We don't have all of them.

01:43:54.000 Jim didn't know, but he said this man was arrested in Dealey Plaza immediately after the assassination, but was released because he didn't speak English.

01:44:00.000 So, this is the photograph he's talking about.

01:44:03.000 The one on the left.

01:44:04.000 I don't know when this exactly happened.

01:44:06.000 I mean, What are the odds of him coming out the back door getting stopped by a cop who it was probably DV Harkness, the Dallas cop who was definitely in on the tramp stuff.

01:44:17.000 But what are the odds that he would have a photographer with him at that exact moment?

01:44:21.000 So this photograph makes no sense to me.

01:44:23.000 It's clearly a photograph of a disheveled Lawrence Howard.

01:44:26.000 We clearly have the statement that somebody got arrested and let go because they spoke Spanish.

01:44:30.000 I can't fit this into the timeline anywhere.

01:44:33.000 I just don't understand it whatsoever.

01:44:35.000 And it would back up my version of the story, right?

01:44:38.000 It backs up the idea that Lawrence Howard was inside the book depository and got stopped, photographed, and let go.

01:44:44.000 But even though that would back up my story, I have no idea where to fit this into the timeline.

01:44:50.000 Now, this is going to be the last thing we cover before I get to Oswald.

01:44:54.000 The light green Nash Rambler takes off from Dealey Plaza.

01:44:58.000 Inside the vehicle are Lawrence Howard driving.

01:45:01.000 It's got William Seymour in there, Lauren Hall, and Sergio Acacia.

01:45:04.000 There's four people in the vehicle.

01:45:05.000 The vehicle will be seen by Roger Craig turning off, going towards Oak Cliff.

01:45:11.000 John Armstrong actually comments on that, but the thing John Armstrong missed was that the vehicle will stop somewhere at a safe house, I'm presuming, because three of the guys in the car will get out, and William Seymour will be left alone with the vehicle.

01:45:24.000 William Seymour will then drive the vehicle to the Tidy Lady Laundry, where he is seen, and people believe him to be, it says right here, Mr. Pennington related that his parents, Mr. and Mrs. J.W. Pennington, who reside with him at the above address, observed an individual who they now believe to have been Lee Harvey Oswald.

01:45:40.000 It says shortly afternoon, but it was really 1250. So they identify William Seymour inside this laundromat as Oswald.

01:45:48.000 He goes inside, he uses the phone, he speaks in Mexican, they say.

01:45:52.000 And then he leaves, and he leaves south on North Clinton Street, but he leaves the light-colored Rambler station wagon in the parking lot.

01:45:59.000 Right?

01:46:00.000 Then, shortly after this, him and Lawrence Howard will be picked up by the CIA in a CIA plane next to the aqueduct, and Lauren Hall, I presume, will go pick up the vehicle and drive it back to Los Angeles.

01:46:13.000 So, those are the events that basically lead up to the shooting of J.D. Tippett, which is a huge story in and of itself that you and I will cover another time.

01:46:23.000 But that's basically the mechanics of what went down inside Dealey Plaza inside the Book Depository with the shooters who I've already named.

01:46:32.000 And, you know, from there they created the legend.

01:46:36.000 The perpetuated the legend of Oswald and.

01:46:41.000 Brought us to where we are today.

01:46:43.000 So, let me go ahead, chat.

01:46:45.000 If you guys got any questions, let's see if we have any questions, then we can go into Oswald here.

01:46:53.000 Because we did a whole, and thank you so much, Corey, for that thorough explanation.

01:46:56.000 I mean, that's a lot.

01:46:57.000 I'll be honest with you guys. 0.98

01:46:58.000 I know some of you guys are probably like, holy shit, that's a lot. 0.97

01:47:00.000 This, like, blows my mind. 0.98

01:47:02.000 Like, what are you talking about?

01:47:03.000 Body doubles?

01:47:04.000 Who are these shooters?

01:47:05.000 So, well, if I'm not mistaken, we got, what?

01:47:08.000 Dave Ferry...

01:47:10.000 Lawrence Howard.

01:47:11.000 Yep.

01:47:12.000 We got Seymour.

01:47:14.000 Yep.

01:47:15.000 Well, Seymour's not a shooter, he's just kind of a spotter, I would call him.

01:47:18.000 Okay, so Jack Valenti.

01:47:21.000 Yep.

01:47:21.000 Lauren Hall, Sergio Arcaja, who's on the roof of the depository, and Emilio Santana, like who I said, got arrested in Dealey Plaza, and he's captured in that.

01:47:29.000 So what, we got five or six shooters?

01:47:32.000 You know, I calculate, I've put nine people in place, but I can't say...

01:47:38.000 Danny Green was there behind the pergola.

01:47:40.000 I don't know if he shot, but he was there.

01:47:41.000 He was a sniper trainer in the Marines, and now he's behind the pergola in the Kennedy assassination.

01:47:45.000 It would make sense, but I can't put a rifle in his hand, nor can I say if it fired anything.

01:47:49.000 Same thing with Robert Bernard Baker, who was on the overpass.

01:47:52.000 I can't say with certainty if he shot.

01:47:54.000 I don't think he did.

01:47:55.000 It wouldn't make any sense for him to have.

01:47:56.000 But there were witnesses who did say that they saw a rifle on the overpass, and Robert Bernard Baker was there.

01:48:01.000 So, you know, what I have in place, I have nine people in place.

01:48:05.000 I can say with certainty, six of them shot.

01:48:08.000 So we would say nine people involved and we can assume four to five shooters.

01:48:14.000 Yes, I would say six tops.

01:48:16.000 Six tops.

01:48:17.000 All right.

01:48:18.000 Let me see here.

01:48:19.000 Anybody got any questions? 1.00

01:48:20.000 One guy says a lot of bullshit, no evidence. 1.00

01:48:22.000 Are you fucking stupid? 1.00

01:48:23.000 He would just put out all the evidence there with literally with timestamps. 1.00

01:48:26.000 People are stupid. 1.00

01:48:29.000 Fucking... 1.00

01:48:29.000 You're talking to a guy that studied this, guys, for the better part of six years and knows almost every intricate detail, looked at almost every document on this case. 1.00

01:48:40.000 So...

01:48:40.000 And someone's saying here, summarizing Hellcat terms.

01:48:43.000 Okay.

01:48:47.000 Let's see here.

01:48:48.000 Oh, someone said that.

01:48:49.000 Okay, can you debunk this real quick? 1.00

01:48:50.000 Because people are so stupid. 1.00

01:48:51.000 They say... 1.00

01:48:53.000 JFK getting headshot by a driver or getting headshot by one of the Secret Service agents.

01:48:57.000 Right.

01:48:57.000 Okay.

01:48:57.000 The reason that that came about was because the original Zapruder film was such a bad quality that there is a reflection off the head of the guy in the passenger seat, who's what, Emery Roberts?

01:49:07.000 And so...

01:49:09.000 Or no, that was Samuel Kinney.

01:49:11.000 So there was a reflection of light off his head, right?

01:49:14.000 And...

01:49:15.000 That's it.

01:49:16.000 It looks like as he's turning around, the reflection, he turns around, moves his arm, the reflection off the top of the head happens, and then he turns back around, the reflection goes away.

01:49:26.000 It was clearly not him. 0.73

01:49:27.000 And then see, this is one of those look to the left while we fooled you to the right kind of things, because the driver, and I didn't go into this because it's just an unnecessary superfluous mention, but the driver was involved in, the driver of the Kennedy's ass, it was William Greer, Witnesses saw him pull over and pick someone up on the other side of the knoll. 0.64

01:49:46.000 So my opinion is he picked up Jack Valenti.

01:49:48.000 And then the cars proceed to do this swap.

01:49:51.000 They kind of leapfrog around each other.

01:49:54.000 And that gave the limousine a chance to slow down.

01:49:57.000 And then Jack Valenti goes to the other side of the Secret Service car, where he's captured in McIntyre photo number two.

01:50:03.000 This is really apparent in McIntyre photo number one.

01:50:06.000 I just don't go into it very often because it opens up a world of questions and problems and probabilities that will take too much time for me to wade through.

01:50:15.000 But this was as much of anything else a ritual.

01:50:18.000 This was a demonstration of power.

01:50:20.000 This was Jack Valenti had to get into the president's limousine to send the biggest message he ever sent.

01:50:30.000 And he didn't send it to Kennedy because he was dead.

01:50:32.000 He sent it to history.

01:50:33.000 He sent it to us and Lyndon Johnson.

01:50:36.000 What was Jack Valenti's motivation to kill the president?

01:50:39.000 Because he's a soldier and he does what he's told.

01:50:42.000 That's it.

01:50:42.000 He works for the CIA. I have a document that proves he works for the CIA because he was working down in, you know, he goes into the military in World War II. He gets out.

01:50:50.000 He goes to Harvard Business School where he directly connects to Kissinger.

01:50:53.000 But I'm convinced that he was already in intelligence by the time he got to Kissinger.

01:50:56.000 I'm convinced he was an undercover OSS guy who didn't do bombing missions but did some sort of assassinations during the war.

01:51:02.000 He gets out and he applies to Harvard Business School.

01:51:05.000 They reject him.

01:51:06.000 Well, that doesn't stop him.

01:51:08.000 He ends up going up there for a weekend, getting with the dean of the school.

01:51:11.000 Next thing you know, he's in an advanced honors program and he graduates in like 18 months when it should have taken two and a half years.

01:51:18.000 So he gets coddled after this is like 1946, 1947. So after the war, he's already made his connections through Kissinger or whoever, and he gets basically He gets everything he ever wants for the rest of his life.

01:51:32.000 So he obviously gets recruited into intelligence and does what he's told the whole time.

01:51:36.000 Remember, he worked for Humble Oil.

01:51:37.000 He worked for guys like George.

01:51:39.000 He worked with George DeMorn Shield.

01:51:40.000 He worked directly with Prescott and George Bush when he was as young as 15 years old.

01:51:44.000 So he was groomed from a very young age.

01:51:47.000 Add to that is mob connections through Traficante, who's connected to, you know, the CIA through Mayhew and Johnny Roselli, right?

01:51:55.000 And you got a happy family and nurturing a guy, grooming him his whole life.

01:52:00.000 And that's who Jack Valenti was.

01:52:01.000 And I think that's why he was picked, because he was groomed his whole life and he was connected to all the right people.

01:52:05.000 And then he was rewarded with Hollywood afterward.

01:52:09.000 Okay.

01:52:09.000 And the rest is history, literally.

01:52:11.000 All right.

01:52:12.000 And guys, some of you guys are wondering about the book.

01:52:14.000 The book is called A Warning From History, guys.

01:52:17.000 I got it off Amazon.

01:52:18.000 You can go ahead and get it off Amazon as well.

01:52:20.000 Go support Corey.

01:52:21.000 The book is way more detailed.

01:52:24.000 Obviously, we're summarizing a lot of the things here for you guys.

01:52:26.000 But the long story short is this.

01:52:27.000 The Warren Commission, guys, was a lie.

01:52:28.000 I'll go ahead and summarize it for you guys.

01:52:30.000 Okay, because Corey went over a lot of details there.

01:52:32.000 But this is what you needed, some of the takeaways for some of you guys that are just joining or whatever.

01:52:36.000 And we're going to put timestamps, by the way, as well.

01:52:37.000 Don't worry, guys.

01:52:39.000 The only story short is this.

01:52:40.000 The Warren Commission was a lie.

01:52:41.000 It was headed up by Allen Dulles, who was the head of the CIA at the time.

01:52:44.000 Obviously, he has an incentive to cover it up because Kennedy wanted to disband the CIA. On top of that, he also had been funded slash assisted by the mafia to become the President of the United States.

01:52:56.000 His dad had made some promises that Kennedy didn't necessarily want to fulfill.

01:52:59.000 And there's also an Israeli connection that we didn't even touch yet, right?

01:53:03.000 So, a lot of people wanted Kennedy dead.

01:53:05.000 So, what ended up happening was you got a bunch of contractors and people that have affiliations with the CIA. Two of these individuals that were involved in this conspiracy looked just like Oswald and had been doing things since 1947 to kind of put themselves in positions...

01:53:20.000 So, 61, I would put the...

01:53:22.000 There's two different phases.

01:53:23.000 We'll talk about the first phase coming up, but all these impersonations are a second phase of impersonations.

01:53:28.000 And the reason I believe Oswald was picked...

01:53:31.000 Was because he was most certainly some form of intelligence operative going back to 47, where the anomalies in his life begin.

01:53:38.000 Gotcha.

01:53:39.000 So these two individuals that look like him, basically what they did was they staged a bunch of situations where people might not necessarily know that it was Oswald himself, but they thought it was Oswald because they looked like him, had certain mannerisms, etc.

01:53:50.000 Whether it's staging a fight, doing criminal activity, whatever it is, getting people...

01:53:54.000 Witnesses seeing him in play.

01:53:57.000 But one of the biggest things, especially with the J.D. Tippett thing, which I'll just use as an example, they said that Oswald killed the cop, but the reality is that the guy that killed the cop wasn't Oswald.

01:54:08.000 Was it Seymour?

01:54:09.000 It was Cary Thornley.

01:54:11.000 It was Cary Thornley that killed the cop.

01:54:12.000 Cary Thornley, we'll talk about in my upcoming presentation, because Cary Thornley was most certainly involved with Oswald in the Marines.

01:54:18.000 He knew Oswald in the Marines and everything he did in the Marines, if you ask me, was about setting Oswald up later, which all started to occur in 1968. Well, that would have been 1959, right?

01:54:32.000 So the gathering of information on Oswald, I don't know why it really occurred in the first place, because it was way before the assassination, but it was sometime around 1960, late 62, early 63, when he was repurposed.

01:54:44.000 All the stuff he had done before was about perpetuating this communist persona to get into Cuba, if you ask me.

01:54:50.000 He was trying to get into Cuba as an operative, but they repurposed him.

01:54:54.000 I think a big part because he brought back Marina, who was a Russian spy, right?

01:54:58.000 And the other thing, too, I think that's very important for people to realize is before Oswald was killed by Jack Ruby, he even said to himself, I didn't do this.

01:55:08.000 I'm the Patsy.

01:55:08.000 Like, I didn't do this.

01:55:09.000 Like, he was like, he's like dumbfounded. 0.99

01:55:11.000 Like, what the fuck is going on here? 0.99

01:55:12.000 Like, I didn't fucking shoot the president. 0.99

01:55:14.000 And it makes sense because from what you're saying, Corey, Oswald wasn't even there. 0.97

01:55:20.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:55:21.000 And we're going to talk about this.

01:55:22.000 I don't want to get too ahead because you're going to explain all this.

01:55:24.000 Actually, matter of fact, we might cut to Rumble because Tommy Sotomayor wants to come on and ask some questions as well.

01:55:30.000 He's a good friend of mine, loves Kenny stuff.

01:55:32.000 He's blown away right now by what you're saying because he studied this as well, and I told him that I was going to have you on.

01:55:38.000 And I'll get him in on the Zoom call as well.

01:55:40.000 But yeah, I mean, any other questions, guys?

01:55:43.000 Let me look at the chat here.

01:55:44.000 Guys, if you've got any questions, FNFSuperChat.com or Rumble Rant In or Castle Club.

01:55:49.000 Oh, I see some chats in Castle Club.

01:55:50.000 Let me read these. 1.00

01:55:51.000 Fuck them boys. 1.00

01:55:52.000 Okay. 1.00

01:55:52.000 Doge Trollster. 1.00

01:55:53.000 I see what you're saying.

01:55:54.000 Middle finger.

01:55:55.000 Even more offensive people on the internet.

01:55:56.000 And then Adam Russell said WNF. So Doge Trollster. 0.98

01:56:01.000 Shout out to you and Adam Russell.

01:56:02.000 Okay.

01:56:03.000 And then let me look here and see if there's anything else.

01:56:06.000 Someone said, did LBJ know about this?

01:56:08.000 He answered that earlier.

01:56:09.000 No, he did not.

01:56:10.000 I don't believe he did.

01:56:11.000 Yeah, Jack Valenti just kind of did it and then was on.

01:56:14.000 That's crazy that he's on Air Force One watching the LBJ get sworn in with Jackie Kenny there with blood all over her dress.

01:56:21.000 I can't prove it yet, but I'm convinced Jack Valenti shot Martin Luther King.

01:56:26.000 Really?

01:56:27.000 I don't even want to get into my reasons why because I'll open a can of worms and we'll be here for hours.

01:56:33.000 But no, I have enough circumstantial evidence to make me believe that.

01:56:38.000 It needs follow-up and all that, but there's enough circumstantial evidence that tells me that that's exactly what happened.

01:56:45.000 Interesting.

01:56:45.000 Okay.

01:56:47.000 Let me see here.

01:56:48.000 Anything else before we get into the...

01:56:52.000 Okay.

01:56:53.000 I guess we'll get into Oswald.

01:56:56.000 All right.

01:56:58.000 And I say I got like another 30 or 40 minutes.

01:57:01.000 30, 40 minutes?

01:57:02.000 All right.

01:57:02.000 That's going to be a crunch, but I'll do my best.

01:57:05.000 Because we've been going now for about two hours.

01:57:09.000 I could probably do it in an hour.

01:57:10.000 So here we go.

01:57:12.000 Let's get started.

01:57:13.000 We're going to explore Oswald's early life.

01:57:17.000 And in doing that, we are going to address the work of a guy named John Armstrong, who's dead now.

01:57:23.000 He died in 2020. He spent much of his...

01:57:27.000 Life digging into the life of Lee Harvey Oswald, and he ultimately came to the conclusion that Oswald growing up was part of some sort of operation, intelligence operation meant to get a spy into the Soviet Union.

01:57:40.000 It involved Oswald having a duplicate.

01:57:45.000 And based on the evidence, it looks like this started to occur sometime around 1947. All these pictures here are comparatives of Men who Armstrong believed were two different men.

01:57:58.000 And as we go through this presentation, what sounds ridiculous at first will not be so ridiculous and will really kind of give you a peek into what the intelligence community was doing, even as far back as 47. But I'm going to tell you with certainty, when you consider naval intelligence has been around since like the 1800s,

01:58:15.000 they've been doing ops like this for way longer than the CIA. um the official story on oswald which is mostly true from what i gather is that his father robert edward lee oswald married marguerite francis claverie and they had two children robert oswald jr and lee harvey oswald now miss Miss Oswald had another son named John Pick, who was the...

01:58:41.000 She had basically three kids from three different dads, or two different dads and John Pick, right?

01:58:45.000 So she got around a bit.

01:58:46.000 She was also married to a guy named Ekdal for a while.

01:58:48.000 So she had three husbands and ends up with three children. 0.97

01:58:51.000 And so we'll get to John Pick later because he plays an important role in exposing some of this.

01:58:56.000 One thing I found very unusual about both of these is that all these people lived in New Orleans, right?

01:59:01.000 Marguerite and Robert lived in New Orleans.

01:59:03.000 He dies in 39, by the way, and he's out of the picture.

01:59:05.000 He never meets Oswald.

01:59:07.000 So we're basically going over Oswald's life and we're going to go over how this body double thing came to play, right?

01:59:15.000 Right.

01:59:16.000 And we're going to kind of pass a determination on whether or not this is a legitimate path of research or not.

01:59:21.000 But you see all these brothers and sisters that they have, that's like 11, right?

01:59:26.000 And none of these people ever had any contact with Marguerite Oswald, Robert Oswald, or Lee Oswald after...

01:59:35.000 After their brother died, after Robert Oswald Sr. died.

01:59:39.000 So there's something going on there.

01:59:41.000 For some reason, the family's out of the picture entirely, even though at times they lived right up the road, you know?

01:59:46.000 So that I find very strange.

01:59:48.000 The only relative they had any contact with is Lillian Claveret Moret, Who ends up being married to Charles Dutz Moret, who worked for Carlos Marcello, right?

01:59:57.000 Kind of a part-time mobster.

01:59:59.000 He ran the numbers games in New Orleans, but that's the only family member on either side that they had any contact with.

02:00:06.000 So between 1939 and 1959, Lee Harvey Oswald and Margarita Oswald, and it's mostly just the two of them because the two brothers after about After the late 40s and 50s, they go off and they join the Marines.

02:00:17.000 And so they're kind of out of the picture.

02:00:18.000 And even before that, they're off at boarding school and stuff.

02:00:21.000 So mostly it's just Marguerite Oswald and Lee Harvey Oswald.

02:00:24.000 And so this is like the list that the Warren Commission says that they lived at leading up to 63. This is this is completely false.

02:00:34.000 The list I've come up with has over 40 addresses on it.

02:00:37.000 And I've even got a couple more that I haven't added to this yet.

02:00:40.000 But when you start to dig into this, These two addresses I was able to sort and figure out a legitimate timeline for because that was kind of complicated.

02:00:48.000 But all this other stuff in red doesn't make any sense.

02:00:51.000 Either it's not in the official records or there is a major overlap where Oswald is seen living at multiple places at times by different witnesses who are very confident about what they've seen.

02:01:05.000 So the first anomaly in addresses occurs in 1947. And real quick, Corey, I'm going to bring Tommy in.

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02:02:10.000 So we are now on...

02:02:12.000 Welcome to the show, Tommy.

02:02:14.000 What's going on?

02:02:15.000 Can you hear me?

02:02:16.000 Yeah, we can hear you.

02:02:17.000 Perfect.

02:02:18.000 I know you said you've been watching the stream, so you're kind of aware of what we're doing now.

02:02:22.000 We're going into Oswald's background.

02:02:25.000 Corey, meet Tommy.

02:02:26.000 Tommy, meet Corey.

02:02:27.000 Tommy, nice to meet you.

02:02:28.000 Nice to meet you as well, brother.

02:02:30.000 You are doing God's work, man.

02:02:31.000 I've been following like you this for at least 20 years.

02:02:38.000 It's an obsession.

02:02:39.000 It's hard to explain to people.

02:02:41.000 I'm sure you have that same thing where it's hard to explain to people why it is that you do it and why you're so obsessed.

02:02:48.000 What was it that made you just get to the point where it was a thing you just had to keep going, like it was the white whale?

02:02:59.000 I just needed to know who was on the grassy knoll.

02:03:01.000 That was it.

02:03:01.000 Now I'll tell you the quick story.

02:03:04.000 Honestly, a lot of the stuff that I've, the conclusions I've come to, Ryan Dawson came to a lot of these conclusions before me, but he just doesn't give up info.

02:03:11.000 He's stingy with info.

02:03:12.000 And so when I went to him, I was like, who was on the knoll?

02:03:14.000 He asked me if I wanted to know or if I wanted a hint so I could figure it out for myself.

02:03:19.000 And I said, just give me a hint.

02:03:21.000 And he did. 0.99

02:03:22.000 And honestly, in hindsight, his hints were bullshit. 0.98

02:03:24.000 But nonetheless, he gave me a hint and that changed my life forever. 0.96

02:03:29.000 And so I've been on this path since really I've been a historian since 2015. I got in Kennedy July 2018. So I've been on Kennedy nonstop ever since.

02:03:37.000 And I'll tell you something, I've only been I've really gotten up.

02:03:39.000 I was obsessive with my research.

02:03:41.000 But after the book came out, I kind of relaxed a little bit.

02:03:43.000 It's been about a year.

02:03:44.000 But man, I've been back at like Obsessive 12-hour days, if not longer, trying to get to the bottom of this Oswald stuff.

02:03:51.000 Because when you see what I tell you about Oswald, honestly, at first, you're just not going to believe it.

02:03:55.000 And then once you do believe it, you're not going to believe it again.

02:04:00.000 And then eventually, at some point in time, you will come to realize that the government has been pulling the wool over our eyes about a lot of stuff and engaging in a lot of behaviors for many decades that really, I think, is what's being covered.

02:04:10.000 I don't think a lot of the stuff that they're hiding It has to do with the assassination.

02:04:14.000 A lot of stuff they're hiding will show that a lot of our culture and history in America was shaped by intelligence operations that we have no idea existed.

02:04:20.000 You know?

02:04:21.000 Amen.

02:04:22.000 Hey, Tommy, you have anything you want to ask?

02:04:23.000 So I'm here for it.

02:04:24.000 Let's see.

02:04:24.000 You were about to get into the Oswald's youth?

02:04:27.000 Right.

02:04:27.000 So we're talking about address anomalies.

02:04:29.000 And so between 39 and 59, and that's not even including the addresses post 59, which is at least you could add another 20. There's 40 addresses minimum between 39 and 59, and at times there are overlaps to where a woman who is allegedly so broke that she put her kids in an orphanage owns three rental properties, gets alimony from her first husband, But can't afford to put food on the table, right?

02:04:54.000 So something's going on.

02:04:55.000 And what I think is going on is that there was a network of sorts run by intelligence in 47, basically putting houses in women's names that they didn't have anything to do with.

02:05:03.000 A bunch of houses that Marguerite Oswald will end up going on to own. 1.00

02:05:07.000 Her sons, Robert and John Pick, never knew anything about them.

02:05:10.000 So this first occurs in 47. She purchased a house at 101 Sansaba in Benbrook, Texas.

02:05:18.000 She doesn't move into it.

02:05:20.000 They don't move into it until a year later when they move into it for only two months.

02:05:25.000 But then do they sell the house after they move into it?

02:05:27.000 No.

02:05:28.000 She holds onto it until 1951. So she ends up having a house for four years while she's destitute at times living with family because she doesn't have a place to live while she owns a rental property.

02:05:38.000 This happens later on.

02:05:41.000 She'll own three rental properties at one time and crying she's broken doesn't have any money, right? 0.99

02:05:45.000 So we don't have any idea what was really going on.

02:05:49.000 Let's jump to New York.

02:05:51.000 This is a very brief summary because the real presentation should be like 500 slides and I got it down to 80. So basically, there's already by the time they moved to New York in 1952, there are already Conflicts in addresses, right?

02:06:07.000 Witnesses who put Lee Harvey Oswald and his mother living in Fort Worth when there are actually other witnesses putting them in New Orleans.

02:06:16.000 And so this really kind of reaches its peak somewhat between 1952 onward.

02:06:22.000 They move to New York and they go and live with John Pick for a couple months, who is Oswald's half-brother.

02:06:31.000 And while they're there, Lee Harvey Oswald allegedly attends school.

02:06:35.000 Now, first off, we know that the school record here, while this might be an authentic document, is incorrect.

02:06:41.000 It says that he went to Ridgelia, which is an elementary school in Fort Worth, but he didn't.

02:06:47.000 According to Robert Oswald, his brother, he went to Stripling.

02:06:52.000 He didn't go to Ridgelia.

02:06:53.000 So we have inconsistencies in the educational record.

02:06:57.000 Then when he's in New York, he basically goes to the Lutheran school where he's basically non-existent.

02:07:03.000 He's only there a couple of days.

02:07:04.000 He just doesn't go.

02:07:05.000 He's truant.

02:07:05.000 Then he's transferred to 117, which is in the Bronx.

02:07:09.000 And he's truant.

02:07:11.000 And allegedly, this is where it starts getting interesting.

02:07:13.000 Allegedly, he's transferred to PS44 in the Bronx.

02:07:17.000 Where again, he's registered as of January 16th, but as of March 23rd, he hasn't shown up yet, right?

02:07:24.000 So this doesn't make any sense when you look at this record because he says it's only absent for 15 days, but he was starting school there in January.

02:07:31.000 And then in April, he's actually picked up at the Bronx Zoo by the police and he's brought to a place called Youth House where he's incarcerated for like a month or a month and a half.

02:07:41.000 While he's there, he's interrogated, he's questioned, he meets with counselors who all give a description of a young boy who's about four foot eight, four foot nine, you know, under 100 pounds, which contradicts the record of Oswald in school at this time, where he measures five foot four inches tall and about 115 pounds.

02:07:58.000 So we have contradiction in descriptions from people who knew him.

02:08:01.000 But the problem with these records here Is that after Oswald is let go of the Youth House, according to the official story, he starts going to PS44 in the Bronx, but he doesn't start until May 7th.

02:08:15.000 That's like two weeks before the end of the school year.

02:08:17.000 So that doesn't make any sense at all.

02:08:18.000 And as you'll see momentarily, this Oswald was allegedly somewhere else.

02:08:23.000 But then we're back to the record here.

02:08:26.000 And so according to Robert Oswald, his mother wanted to transfer schools.

02:08:34.000 Let me see.

02:08:34.000 I think I have a slide for that one.

02:08:35.000 Here we go.

02:08:36.000 During the summer, mother looked around for another apartment so Lee could make a fresh start in a new school.

02:08:41.000 In the fall, on September 14th, 53, 10 days before his parole was to end, Lee entered the eighth grade at PS 44 on Columbus Avenue and 76th Street.

02:08:50.000 That's in Manhattan.

02:08:52.000 That's like two blocks from John Pick's apartment where he was staying, or at least they were using the address, right?

02:08:57.000 So, but the problem is, We have a school record for PS44 in the Bronx, which says he was present 109 days, absent only 15. But we know that's completely false.

02:09:08.000 And then we have the statement here, he starts school September 14th, and this is the record of that.

02:09:12.000 But this is not the PS44 in the Bronx.

02:09:15.000 This is PS44 in Manhattan, because all five boroughs had their own PS44, right?

02:09:19.000 So we start to have some obfuscation of school records going back here, 1953. After this, we can say with certainty that Oswald and his mother stayed in New York until the 7th of 54. However, because we have a phone call here that puts her there, right?

02:09:36.000 The school board called her on the 6th of January 54, talked to her about bringing Lee in because, you know, he allegedly was still a truant, but obviously he was attending school because we have that record to show he was there and only missed a couple of days.

02:09:48.000 The problem is we have an eyewitness, multiple eyewitnesses actually, who put Oswald in Stanley, North Dakota during the summer of 1953. So based on the records that we have, he was released from the youth house.

02:10:00.000 This is the skinny, gaunt-looking Oswald, who we'll clarify as we move forward.

02:10:06.000 He's released from the youth house on May the 7th, and in my opinion, him and his Marguerite Oswald caretaker dipped out in New York and went to Stanley, North Dakota.

02:10:17.000 They are seen here in July and August, which perfectly lines up with John Armstrong's theory, that he then, from here, went down to New Orleans, where he started attending Beauregard in the fall semester of 1954, okay?

02:10:36.000 So I want to make sure—I hate to cut you off, but I want to make sure that me and the rest of the people understand.

02:10:41.000 You're saying that the Oswald— Fake was built way back in his youth?

02:10:50.000 Yes.

02:10:51.000 100%.

02:10:51.000 All the way back in 47, which we have the first address anomaly.

02:10:56.000 The first address anomaly and the reason it's an anomaly is because not only did she buy it and own it for four years, but only lived there for two months with no other records of having rented it anywhere.

02:11:05.000 Witnesses who lived in the area They claim that Marguerite Oswald and her son Lee lived there the entire time.

02:11:14.000 But we know that that's false because she was living with her husband, whose name was Edwin Ekdahl at the time, with Lee in Fort Worth at an address on Victor Street.

02:11:23.000 OK, so this address becomes an anomaly because of the witnesses who put her there when clearly she wasn't there.

02:11:30.000 And this is the first time this happens.

02:11:32.000 Now, when you analyze this incident on itself, You could say, well, hey, it may be just a neighbor who's wrong about this, and it might not stand on its own two feet.

02:11:40.000 But when you go through 100 incidents of the same thing, you start to realize that there's some fire from this smoke.

02:11:49.000 And the incident in 47 at the address on San Saba is the first of many incidents.

02:11:54.000 This incident here in Stanley, North Dakota, I've probably skipped 10 incidents to get to this one because these are the most key, the ones that are the most definitive.

02:12:02.000 There's a lot that are kind of wishy-washy, right?

02:12:04.000 But these are the ones that are like, clearly we have documented in official records things that weren't true.

02:12:10.000 We have witnesses who've made reports with the FBI. So William Henry Timmer, he basically, one way you can verify the authenticity of a witness is if they provide detail to something that they wouldn't understand the relevance of that detail, then they know they're telling you the truth.

02:12:25.000 And such is the case here.

02:12:26.000 He describes Oswald as being a couple of years older than him.

02:12:29.000 And he was enthralled with Oswald because Oswald talked about how he was in New York and he was in gang fights.

02:12:34.000 He's making stuff up, obviously, boasting, but because he wasn't in no gang and there wasn't any gang fights, he kind of got bullied, right?

02:12:41.000 But he says that Oswald was even talking about communism back then, which we have other people who witnessed, which means that this little boy was being prompted to say things, you know, basically his whole life.

02:12:51.000 He was handled, nurtured, pushed to do things and say things to leave an impression, which then could be used as part of the legend just to get him into the Soviet Union.

02:12:59.000 Because if you don't think that the Russians have back doors into our information to do background checks on people, I mean, they have to.

02:13:06.000 Especially then.

02:13:07.000 They had everybody tap back then, just like we had everybody tap back then.

02:13:11.000 And just to make sure before we move on, also, I'm not trying to insult the intelligence of people, but when you're saying obfuscate, that is basically one of the things that Government does to muddy the water, like kind of give you a little bit of truth and then bury it in BS because there's many cases like I'm one who believes that the movie JFK was one of those to where they wanted people to look the other way, right?

02:13:37.000 Yeah, 100%.

02:13:38.000 But it backfired because it led to the JFK Records Act, which led to me. 1.00

02:13:41.000 So they fucked up. 0.99

02:13:43.000 All right, so moving on. 0.99

02:13:46.000 Robert Oswald, who, as we'll see as we move through this, was involved with both His brother, Lee Oswald, and the imposter, the fake Oswald.

02:13:55.000 He's involved with both of them because for a time, he lives with them.

02:13:58.000 But this might be an explanation.

02:14:00.000 So Robert Oswald in 1953, that summer after he visits them in New York, He goes and he's stationed in the Marines at Opalaca, Florida.

02:14:09.000 Well, Opalaca happened to be, in 1953, an airbase that was run by the CIA. And this was the airbase from which they launched the overthrow of the Guatemalan government.

02:14:19.000 Later on, it would go on to house Operation Mongoose, which was the connection to David Ferry and all those guys down in New Orleans.

02:14:26.000 Mongoose was run out of this base.

02:14:28.000 This is in Miami.

02:14:30.000 Go back to 1953. Actually, moving forward from 53, you have William Seymour, you have Lawrence Howard, you have Lauren Hall, you have Jerry Hemming, you have a dozen other guys who all go through the Marines and about the same time as Oswald, but I haven't found any overlap with any of these guys in Oswald directly in the Marine Corps yet.

02:14:47.000 But all of these guys will end up down in Miami where they're at No Name Key with Jerry Hemming and the Interpen Group.

02:14:54.000 And the Interpen Group is basically just a bunch of CIA mercenaries who a lot of these guys got out of the military.

02:15:00.000 Because they felt the military was too restrictive and they became kind of mercenaries back in the day.

02:15:03.000 And they're all tied to the no-name key base, which was one of the keys down in South Florida.

02:15:09.000 So I realized that this base was going on and running Operation Mongoose and all those guys were connected to Mongoose.

02:15:15.000 So all those guys had to have been connected to this airbase, right?

02:15:18.000 And then if you realize that in the early days of the airbase, you have Robert Oswald, who's Lee Oswald's brother, He's here for two years, right?

02:15:27.000 So, I mean, E. Howard Hunt was stationed here directly in 53. So, I mean, to me, this is like ground zero for where the origins of maybe the assassination and the recruitment of the mercenaries came in, right?

02:15:40.000 So another thing that strikes me about Opelaka is that You have a Marine.

02:15:45.000 It's a Marine base, but it really was shut down after World War II. And so they didn't end up bringing back any Marines there until the CIA showed interest in it.

02:15:52.000 And when they did, they assigned the third Marine aircraft wing.

02:15:55.000 Robert Oswald was stationed with the third Marine aircraft wing at Opelaka in 53. But in 55, the third Marine aircraft wing moves to El Toro, California, and then Lee Harvey Oswald will be stationed there and get some training there in Opelaka.

02:16:08.000 I mean, I'm sorry, in At El Toro and he'll be there for about, you know, total in all about a year or so.

02:16:18.000 So I just think it's too much of a coincidence that they were both part of the same air wing that was both connected to the CIA station, right?

02:16:25.000 So that just and then when you look into El Toro later, El Toro came under scrutiny and it was a lot of investigations about CIA drug running there.

02:16:31.000 And then Believe it or not, I can't link any of this to Oswald's unit directly, but a whole bunch of guys who were working in the 1950s and early 1960s at El Toro who were working in the radar unit, which is allegedly where Oswald was working, but I don't really think he was working there.

02:16:45.000 I think he was working in the mess hall.

02:16:47.000 Those guys, a lot of them died from radiation poisoning, mysteriously, somehow.

02:16:51.000 And they blamed it on the radar equipment, which everyone's been using for 50 years at that point, right?

02:16:56.000 So it really doesn't make any sense.

02:16:58.000 And a lot of these guys died back then.

02:16:59.000 So there was major CIA something going on there.

02:17:02.000 All right, so here we have some of the most, the biggest contradictions in the scheduling of the life of Oswald.

02:17:09.000 So after New York, John Armstrong alleges that they're both at Beauregard Junior High School for a semester.

02:17:17.000 But I don't know if I buy that or not.

02:17:18.000 I mean, it'd be too obvious to have both these guys in the same place at the same time.

02:17:21.000 And so ultimately, one of them will end up going down to Fort Worth, while the other one is still at Beauregard.

02:17:30.000 And we can confirm through witness statements.

02:17:32.000 John Armstrong went out and interviewed these two people here.

02:17:35.000 This is Franchetta Schubert on the left, and this is Frank Kudlady on the right.

02:17:38.000 Franchetta Schubert was a student in the eighth grade when Oswald was a student in ninth grade at Stripling Junior High School in Fort Worth.

02:17:46.000 Frank Kudlady, he's the assistant principal.

02:17:49.000 He would be someone who would know.

02:17:51.000 The FBI comes down and on Saturday, November 23rd, they come in and Frank Kudlady turns over Oswald's school records to the FBI. He had looked at him.

02:18:02.000 He confirmed that Oswald was there for about six weeks in the beginning of the school year.

02:18:06.000 The reason that this is problematic The reason this is problematic is because you have Lee Harvey Oswald, who the same people are testifying to the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald is at Beauregard and he had on near a perfect attendance record, right?

02:18:20.000 So how is it that you have Lee Harvey Oswald attending two different schools at the same time in the 1954 to 1955 school year.

02:18:28.000 It's impossible.

02:18:28.000 What really gives this whole thing away and adds credence to the fact that Oswald was there, besides the statements of the people who knew him there, is the idea that the house that they were seen living in was across the street from the school.

02:18:40.000 It was 2220 Thomas Place.

02:18:43.000 Now, a couple things weird about this.

02:18:45.000 Marguerite Oswald, allegedly the fake Marguerite Oswald, who was with this boy who was attending school as Lee Harvey Oswald, she lived at this 2220 Thomas Place address three separate times over a 10 or 12 year period when it had three different owners.

02:19:01.000 What are the odds of that happening?

02:19:03.000 Slim to none, right?

02:19:05.000 So it tells me that the people who owned it were just fronts, and it was basically just like a safe house, just like I kind of described Marguerite Oswald, had properties that she never personally managed or ran or anything, but were in her name, right?

02:19:19.000 So are you saying Marguerite was in on this as well, or is it that she was...

02:19:23.000 Oh yeah, everyone's in on this.

02:19:25.000 Everyone.

02:19:26.000 Everyone with the exception of John Pick.

02:19:28.000 Because you know, at the end of her life, what they put out is that basically she was schizophrenic.

02:19:33.000 Well, we'll get to her.

02:19:34.000 We'll get to her.

02:19:36.000 Corey, I was going to say this.

02:19:37.000 Look, I know you said that you have Seymour's number and you don't want to call him.

02:19:41.000 You want me to call him on air right now?

02:19:43.000 You can text me his number if you want.

02:19:45.000 No, no.

02:19:46.000 I'd have to dig it up.

02:19:47.000 It's copy and pasted in my notes somewhere.

02:19:49.000 But I can get it to you.

02:19:50.000 I can get it to you for a future time.

02:19:53.000 Yeah, we could call him, bro, and just tell him, hey, look, you don't have much time?

02:19:57.000 Then you set Oswald up, and we can finally get an answer here.

02:20:00.000 Yeah.

02:20:01.000 I have definitely a confession.

02:20:04.000 You know, it's weird.

02:20:05.000 A lot of these guys, none of them gave me deathbed confession, except for Hunt, and Hunt was a little wrong about his stuff.

02:20:09.000 Hunt did.

02:20:10.000 Well, he was right about the Corsicans. 0.99

02:20:12.000 The Corsicans were in Daly Plaza, 100%. 1.00

02:20:14.000 But they weren't there as shooters.

02:20:15.000 They were there to muddy the water.

02:20:16.000 When they fought, when they traced them in through New York down to Texas, they automatically became suspects, right?

02:20:22.000 Who's Hunt?

02:20:24.000 E. Howard Hunt.

02:20:25.000 He was involved in Watergate.

02:20:27.000 Oh, yeah.

02:20:28.000 He admitted that he was involved in the JFK assassination?

02:20:31.000 Oh, yeah.

02:20:34.000 Definitely, but he's on the outskirts of my research.

02:20:37.000 Nothing he's done has jumped out at me.

02:20:39.000 I'm pretty sure he was in Daley Plaza, but I can't really attach him to anything.

02:20:42.000 The more I dig into this Oswald background stuff, the more his name pops up through Opelaka and third-party connections.

02:20:48.000 But I know he was involved.

02:20:50.000 I just can't figure out how yet.

02:20:51.000 Sorry, sorry.

02:20:52.000 I don't want to take away.

02:20:53.000 Keep going.

02:20:53.000 Sorry.

02:20:54.000 So Fred Korth, this is kind of funny, because that house that was lived at across the street from Stripling Junior High that Oswald was never supposed to go to, it turns out that that house was owned by a woman named Mary McCarthy Junior, who was a very close friend of Fred Korth.

02:21:08.000 Now Fred Korth, under Kennedy, was the Secretary of the Navy.

02:21:12.000 Before that, he was involved in some kind of army operations.

02:21:15.000 But long story short, he was the guy in government who facilitated everything for Oswald when Oswald was in the Marines.

02:21:23.000 He facilitated his applications in the beginning.

02:21:26.000 He facilitated his work.

02:21:28.000 Getting out of the Marines, he was made aware of everything Oswald did, and he also helped facilitate Oswald with the hardship when he got a hardship discharge.

02:21:39.000 He facilitated that, and he facilitated Oswald's return to America from the Soviet Union.

02:21:45.000 He was involved in every step of the way.

02:21:48.000 Through Oswald from the time he was in the Marines onward.

02:21:50.000 But then when you find out that Fred Korth directly was the lawyer for Edwin Ekdahl, who was married to Margarita Oswald, he was his lawyer back in 1947. So he's been familiar with Oswald since Oswald was seven or eight years old.

02:22:06.000 Right around the time when the duplicate Oswald stuff started to occur and the inconsistencies in the address record started to occur.

02:22:14.000 It all started in around 47 and 47 is when Fred Korth got connected to Edwin Ekdahl and helped him out with this and then from then on out was connected to Oswald through all of Oswald's whatever he was doing in the Marines and then in the Soviet Union.

02:22:30.000 He was directly connected to all of it.

02:22:32.000 So I can say with certainty, Fred Korth was a person who facilitated this scheme with the duplicate Oswald.

02:22:37.000 Now, let's get into the meat and potatoes of this thing.

02:22:40.000 This is the woman that we are told is Marguerite Oswald up until around 1959. After 1959, we have one photo from 1960, the photo in the lower hand here.

02:22:52.000 This is the last time we'll see this woman ever.

02:22:54.000 Every photograph of Marguerite Oswald after this is clearly a different woman.

02:23:00.000 This is a photograph of her at Paul's shoe store.

02:23:02.000 She's rather slender and not ugly. 0.57

02:23:05.000 She's fairly attractive for a woman in her day of her age.

02:23:08.000 She's definitely not a hideous woman by any means. 0.96

02:23:10.000 This is a very well-known photo of her.

02:23:14.000 And this is the woman who we are told is Marguerite Oswald, post-1959-ish.

02:23:20.000 We have photographs of her going back.

02:23:21.000 The oldest one we have is from 1956. And all these other photographs are clearly of the same woman.

02:23:28.000 This is the woman we're told is Marguerite Oswald.

02:23:30.000 Yet when you look closely, you'll find that she has a mole under her right eye and she wears glasses. 1.00

02:23:35.000 The other Marguerite Oswald never did.

02:23:37.000 She doesn't have a mole, even as far as 1960, right?

02:23:41.000 But then we got photographs here of Marguerite Oswald going back to 56. I mean, this is not the same woman.

02:23:48.000 When you put them next to each other, the differences become quite clear.

02:23:52.000 The woman on the left Is very unattractive. 1.00

02:23:55.000 She has her eyebrows, if you notice, they kind of slant down at a 45 degree angle.

02:23:59.000 This was pointed out by John Armstrong because it'll become important later.

02:24:03.000 The woman on the right is the woman who was Marguerite Oswald up until 1959 or so.

02:24:08.000 And then after 60-ish, she disappears with the exception of, we have some testimony from John Pick who actually kept in touch with her.

02:24:15.000 But after all the stuff that Oswald broke, he just kind of shut his mouth.

02:24:19.000 He didn't make a scene about any of it because he knew what the deal was.

02:24:23.000 So after this, you know, this is another comparison.

02:24:26.000 I mean, this is clearly two different women. 1.00

02:24:27.000 We're not looking at the same person at all.

02:24:29.000 And this is all at the same time periods.

02:24:34.000 So a couple of them overlap.

02:24:36.000 Oh, God, yes.

02:24:37.000 Oh, yes.

02:24:37.000 From 56 to 59. And the overlap is what we see with the overlap corresponds with the address record.

02:24:45.000 Mm-hmm.

02:24:45.000 Which is a mess, a complete mess.

02:24:47.000 The only reason that we know of certain addresses, like there's an address that we'll talk about up in Fort Worth at 3836th Street, right?

02:24:55.000 That address shouldn't exist.

02:24:57.000 And the only reason we know about it is because Lee Oswald sent a postcard to it.

02:25:00.000 I believe the real Lee Oswald sent to his real mother, but the official story says she was living at a Collinwood address, which was then replaced by another address on Fifth Street.

02:25:10.000 When you really get into the details, the nitty gritty on the addresses, the story becomes wild.

02:25:16.000 Now, you want to talk about wild, we're going to get wild here.

02:25:20.000 So John Armstrong suspected that the Marguerite Oswald imposter, the woman on the right, was actually a woman named Margaret Keating, and that Margaret Keating, she was Robert Oswald's first wife.

02:25:34.000 And they were married from 1920 to 1932. They were married for 12 years.

02:25:37.000 Then they went through a very lengthy divorce that took about two more years.

02:25:40.000 And then after that, he had gotten with Marguerite Oswald.

02:25:44.000 So this is where things kind of go off the deep end.

02:25:47.000 So you'll notice Marguerite Keating has the slanted 45 degree eyebrows here. 1.00

02:25:52.000 Armstrong pointed this out.

02:25:54.000 And so does the Marguerite Oswald imposter, right?

02:25:57.000 Clearly not the same woman who looks rather normal and somewhat attractive. 0.99

02:26:01.000 And this is Robert Lee Oswald, senior, in the middle here.

02:26:05.000 So here's where things kind of bust out into the absurd.

02:26:11.000 Margaret Keating, when she's getting divorced from Robert Oswald, there's two addresses associated with her, 220 South Telemachus and 120 North Telemachus.

02:26:23.000 So, these addresses actually reappear later on, and that's the crazy part.

02:26:28.000 So, she's staying, they were living at 220 South Telemachus, but she went and stayed with her stepfather, E.L. Slattery, and this is back in like 1932 or something like that, right?

02:26:39.000 Crazy if this has anything to do with the assassination, because it really doesn't.

02:26:43.000 So when you fast forward, you'll find that for no reason whatsoever, this woman hadn't been married to Robert Oswald in 23 years.

02:26:52.000 But in the summer of 1955 to 56, her name appears in the phone book in New Orleans as Margaret Oswald.

02:27:03.000 In the phone book here we have, and she's at 120 North Telemachus, and it's listed as Margaret, and the ditto is for the name Oswald.

02:27:10.000 That's crazy.

02:27:11.000 Margarita Oswald is living at 126 Exchange Place.

02:27:15.000 So now we have absolute rock solid proof of two Margaret Oswald, or a Margaret Oswald and a Margarita Oswald, who are both connected to Robert Oswald Sr. This is where My mind was completely blown away.

02:27:30.000 So when the Warren Commission pulled the credit report for Marguerite Oswald, it had a bunch of extra addresses on it that they never could figure out where they came from.

02:27:41.000 This report right here shows that Marguerite Oswald and Margaret Keating, the former wife of Robert Oswald, were merged into one credit report.

02:27:52.000 That's her addresses.

02:27:54.000 Those are Margaret Keating's addresses, who in 1955 and 56, for no reason at all, listed herself in the directory as Margaret Oswald.

02:28:01.000 On top of that, Robert Oswald let slip that he had stayed After he got out of the Marines at the address on Telemachus, he was probably referring to the 120 North Telemachus address, which is crazy because that has nothing to do with any Oswald.

02:28:17.000 That is Margaret Keating's address in 1955. She maintained that address.

02:28:23.000 I believe to this very day, it's still owned by a Keating. 0.63

02:28:26.000 So why is Robert Oswald Staying with Margaret Keating.

02:28:31.000 There's no reason for it.

02:28:33.000 I mean, it was a woman who was married to his father before he was born, right?

02:28:36.000 So it doesn't make any sense here.

02:28:37.000 What's going on?

02:28:39.000 This in and of itself showed that we don't know who did this.

02:28:42.000 I mean, we don't know if this was done by intelligence forces or if this was done previously.

02:28:47.000 Who knows?

02:28:48.000 Before that.

02:28:49.000 But it was done, and the lives of these two women were merged onto a single credit report.

02:28:54.000 That was all attributed to Marguerite Oswald later on.

02:28:58.000 Now can we say, just to make sure or to ask you, can we say this is something that can be just done with Not nefariously.

02:29:10.000 Accidentally, the reports are being done back then.

02:29:12.000 The names are kind of familiar.

02:29:13.000 Possibly, yes.

02:29:15.000 Possibly, but there's some more nefarious stuff going on that we'll talk about.

02:29:19.000 So Margaret M. Keating is the woman on the left, right?

02:29:22.000 The woman on the right is Cecilia Keating, her mother.

02:29:25.000 Now, she was born during the Civil War.

02:29:27.000 This is like old stuff here, right?

02:29:28.000 But when you look at the Marguerite Oswald imposter, To me, she strikes much more of a resemblance to Cecilia than she does to this person here, who's Margaret Keating, which is weird.

02:29:39.000 She looks like she's one of the sisters, like a lost sister.

02:29:41.000 Look at the nose and the face and the jaw.

02:29:43.000 Everything to me screams that she is a Keating.

02:29:45.000 So this is where things really get weird.

02:29:49.000 Margaret Keating was born in 1892. This allegedly came from birth certificate records.

02:29:56.000 When she marries Robert Oswald in 1920, she claims to be 24 years old, meaning that she was born in 1896, so she lied about her age there.

02:30:05.000 Then fast forward to 1935, Margaret Keating, the same Margaret Keating on 120 North Telemachus, she registers to vote, but she says that she's born in 1908. Then she registers again in 1939, claims to be born in 1910. That is an 18-year difference between her real birth date.

02:30:24.000 There's no way a person like that could pass for someone half their own age, which is what it would be at this point.

02:30:30.000 Why is she doing this? 1.00

02:30:32.000 What reason could she possibly be lying about her age multiple times over a number of years?

02:30:38.000 The only thing that comes to mind is that she was attempting to do some sort of identity transfer.

02:30:45.000 Meaning, she was passing her information to someone who was 18 years younger than her.

02:30:49.000 I'll admit, this is rampant speculation on my part.

02:30:53.000 Nothing else makes sense.

02:30:55.000 Armstrong believed that Margaret Keating was the Marguerite Oswald imposter.

02:31:00.000 I don't believe that, because that would make Marguerite Oswald, when she died, 100 years old.

02:31:05.000 Doesn't make any sense at all.

02:31:07.000 If she was 20 years younger or 18 years younger, it would make a lot more sense, which would be about 75 to 80, which is about how old the Marguerite Oswald imposter was when she died.

02:31:18.000 So this is where I'm at, and this is the dead end that I am struck, and I don't know what to do with this information.

02:31:24.000 But Margaret Keating, sure enough, changed who she was through these documents over a multi-year period between 1920 and 1939. She submitted documents that changed her age to make her look 18 years younger.

02:31:37.000 Why would she do this?

02:31:38.000 Was it an intelligence op?

02:31:39.000 I don't think so.

02:31:40.000 This is before the CIA, and I don't have any evidence she was connected to naval intelligence or any of this stuff.

02:31:44.000 So I don't know what the hell to do with this.

02:31:47.000 Other than the only piece of the puzzle that's missing is who's the identity of the Marguerite Oswald imposter, right? 0.99

02:31:53.000 Shit. 1.00

02:31:54.000 So moving on. 0.99

02:31:55.000 Robert Oswald, he was in on both of this because he's there with the imposter and he was obviously the real son of the real Marguerite.

02:32:01.000 All right, now we're going to get to the Marine Corps and I'm going to try to go over this in a timely manner, but this is some really deep stuff here.

02:32:08.000 So remember, the theory that Armstrong put forth was that there were two boys.

02:32:12.000 One constantly went by Harvey and one went by Lee.

02:32:16.000 Now it sounds ridiculous on its face, but he was able to generate a list Of 49 places where Harvey Lee Oswald is the name on official documents.

02:32:27.000 Found 49 of them.

02:32:29.000 So this is a good example.

02:32:30.000 This is Lee Harvey Oswald's initial application to the Marine Corps.

02:32:34.000 And you can clearly see Harvey Lee Oswald was typed in there, but then Harvey was erased and Lee was erased and Lee Harvey Oswald was put in its place.

02:32:45.000 Very weird, huh?

02:32:46.000 There's information on here that doesn't make sense.

02:32:48.000 Lee Harvey Oswald has blue eyes.

02:32:50.000 Here it says color of eyes, hazel.

02:32:53.000 Really?

02:32:54.000 Every other document says blue, except this.

02:32:57.000 Actually, there's another document in the Marines that says blue dash hazel.

02:33:01.000 It blew me away.

02:33:02.000 Blue hazel eyes?

02:33:02.000 Really?

02:33:03.000 Never seen that one before.

02:33:04.000 So the information on this card is questionable at best.

02:33:08.000 And so this is This is the first document that I find in the Marine Corps that shows this.

02:33:16.000 There are other documents that we will get to.

02:33:19.000 Oswald's application is address to 4936 Collinwood.

02:33:23.000 The problem is, at the exact same time that the Collinwood address is on his paperwork, We have witnesses, a man named Mr. McCracken, and he's a neighbor of Marguerite Oswald, who lives at 3830 West 6th Street in Fort Worth.

02:33:40.000 When Lee Oswald gets to Hawaii on the way to Atsugi, he mails a postcard.

02:33:44.000 It is addressed to the 3830 West 6th address when he's supposed to be living at Collinwood.

02:33:50.000 Can we jump?

02:33:52.000 I'm going to jump a frame back with a question or something that we as an audience may want.

02:33:58.000 Why do you believe that the Lee Harvey or the Harvey Lee was changed to Lee Harvey?

02:34:03.000 Do you believe this was a separate individual or that it was a mistake that they're trying to correct?

02:34:09.000 Absolutely.

02:34:09.000 We have other documentation filled out by Lee Harvey Oswald that is number one in duplicate and number two has different information on it.

02:34:18.000 So that is lumped in with Lee Harvey Oswald's military records.

02:34:21.000 So it is clear some forms were submitted twice with different info.

02:34:25.000 But when we get further along through the military record, you'll see why the most compelling stuff is yet to come.

02:34:33.000 So this is just another example of how the addresses are messed up.

02:34:37.000 So 3830 West 6th, Lee, over the course of his military career in boot camp, he will go and visit her three separate times.

02:34:44.000 He'll stay for between a week and two weeks each time.

02:34:46.000 And this stretches well into 1958, all right?

02:34:50.000 But at the exact same time, you have this woman at Collinwood who will end up leaving there after about six months, and she moves to an address on 1031 West 5th in Fort Worth.

02:35:00.000 And we know this because the landlord Who rented 4936 Collinwood will repeatedly go to the 1031 West 5th Avenue Fort Worth address to try to collect money that allegedly Marguerite Oswald wouldn't pay her.

02:35:13.000 So we have a direct connection from 4936 Collinwood to the 1031 West 5th address through numerous FBI statements that we have.

02:35:21.000 However, simultaneously, Lee Oswald is visiting 3830 West 6 to visit his mother.

02:35:26.000 So we have a contradiction here that lasts for well over a year that we have FBI documents to back up.

02:35:33.000 But this, like I said, this is one of dozens of conflicts.

02:35:39.000 Here's something that's separate to this, but I need to point out.

02:35:42.000 This is on Oswald's forms.

02:35:44.000 When he joined the Marines, he put 100% of his pay to go to his mother, Marguerite Oswald.

02:35:49.000 Okay?

02:35:50.000 However, throughout the entire time he's in the Marines, he's got money in his pocket, he's going to bars, he's betting, he's gambling with people.

02:35:56.000 Where is he getting his money if 100% of his money is going to his mother?

02:35:59.000 It doesn't make any sense.

02:36:00.000 That was just a little tidbit that I thought I'd throw out there.

02:36:04.000 So here we go.

02:36:05.000 He gets into the Marines.

02:36:06.000 He's five foot nine inches tall in October of 1956. Now, the photograph on the right is a very controversial photo.

02:36:12.000 It's clearly the same man.

02:36:14.000 This is taken by Robert Oswald in December of 1958. This photo appears in his book, Lee, the story of Lee Harvey Oswald.

02:36:22.000 So it was published in 1967. This has been a picture that Robert Oswald has claimed has been his brother since 1967, and it's clearly the person on the left.

02:36:33.000 He got in, he was young.

02:36:35.000 He grew two inches while he's in the Marines.

02:36:37.000 That's perfectly normal.

02:36:39.000 Now, the person who was arrested in New Orleans on August the 9th and in Dallas on November the 22nd, and who was autopsied in Dallas, well, he measured five foot nine inches tall.

02:36:51.000 This is a circle that nobody can square.

02:36:54.000 This person is clearly not the person photographed and placed in Robert Oswald's book, Lee.

02:37:02.000 So, and a man doesn't shrink two inches, not in the shorter time period between 58 and 63. And of course, he doesn't look anything like him, not in the older years.

02:37:12.000 This is the man who we know as Lee Harvey Oswald, who was arrested in Dallas on that day.

02:37:17.000 And he was five foot nine inches tall everywhere he goes.

02:37:21.000 This is a comparison of the two men.

02:37:24.000 The man who was arrested on the left, as we know, is Lee Harvey Oswald.

02:37:26.000 The man on the right is the man who Robert Oswald put in his book and said it was Lee Harvey Oswald, who clearly matches that original Marine entry photo.

02:37:35.000 This is two different men.

02:37:36.000 The ears are different.

02:37:36.000 The hairline's different.

02:37:38.000 Look at the neck.

02:37:39.000 This is the big thing.

02:37:40.000 The knee on the right is 5'11".

02:37:44.000 This man's 5'9".

02:37:46.000 Remember, the statements by Renatus Hartogs and by Milton Kurian at Youth House said that the Oswald they dealt with was about 4'8 or 4'9", weighed less than 100 pounds.

02:37:56.000 At the exact same time, Lee Oswald is on his school registration at 5'4", 115 pounds.

02:38:02.000 You see what I'm saying?

02:38:03.000 It's the same people going back all the way to childhood.

02:38:06.000 And that becomes obvious when you look at the photo from the Bronx Zoo.

02:38:09.000 We'll get to the photo at the Bronx Zoo here momentarily, but let's take a look at Oswald's initial training.

02:38:15.000 This is all jacked up for many reasons, and there's all kinds of contradiction here.

02:38:19.000 He's initially in basic training.

02:38:21.000 That seems to check out.

02:38:22.000 Here he's in communications radio school at Camp Pendleton, and they give it away.

02:38:28.000 Because it says DUINS, that means duty instruction.

02:38:31.000 ICT is communications training.

02:38:33.000 Okay?

02:38:34.000 So ICT is communications training, not combat training.

02:38:37.000 This becomes a problem because we have someone, we have witnesses who were with him in radio school at this time, and we have witnesses who were with him in combat training at this time.

02:38:46.000 Two different people who were definitely not together in the same course.

02:38:49.000 So allegedly, he's at aviation basic training in Jacksonville, Florida, March 18th, 57 through May 3rd of 57. That's completely accurate.

02:38:58.000 And we have a photograph of him, of Oswald, there.

02:39:01.000 But the problem here is that it says CASCO, which is casual company, HQBN, which is headquarter battalion, HQMC. That's Washington, D.C. He's supposed to be on leave after he gets out of the radar school, which is at Biloxi, Mississippi.

02:39:20.000 After that, his commanding sergeant, Sergeant Powers, Daniel Powers, says that they all went on leave at that time, but they didn't go on leave at that time.

02:39:28.000 When you dig into Oswald's record, you'll find that on July 9th, he reported for duty three days before the rest of his battalion, which was a group of six guys, which we'll go over, which becomes relevant.

02:39:39.000 But he was transferred from casual company HQBN, HQMC Washington, D.C. Normally, I would just say, okay, he was assigned there while he was on leave.

02:39:47.000 But no.

02:39:48.000 Because I have other documents where they show what it looks like when you're on leave.

02:39:51.000 It says on leave.

02:39:52.000 This doesn't say on leave.

02:39:53.000 And here, he was not charged for his travel.

02:39:55.000 If he was on leave, he would have been charged for his travel.

02:39:57.000 So I'm convinced Oswald was sent to Washington, D.C. with the rest of his battalion, except for one guy.

02:40:03.000 And one guy who wasn't sent was actually demoted, but he turned out to be very important.

02:40:07.000 We'll get to him in a second.

02:40:09.000 So Oswald was not where they say he was.

02:40:11.000 And when you look at the record here that says HQMC, HQBN, that was at a time when he was actually at Keesler Air Force Base in Biloxi.

02:40:19.000 So there's a lot of obfuscation over where he actually was at what time.

02:40:23.000 The only reason we know that is because we have a photograph.

02:40:26.000 Where's the photograph?

02:40:27.000 Let me see.

02:40:28.000 This is the photograph here of Lee Oswald on June 18, 1957, as he's graduating from Radar School in Biloxi, okay?

02:40:35.000 So we have absolute proof.

02:40:37.000 And notice the fat neck.

02:40:39.000 This is key, because even his brother will comment on this later on.

02:40:43.000 But from here, the sheet that we have that indicates where Oswald was, we have witnesses to support most of this, okay?

02:40:51.000 However, when we get to the Oswald who was arrested in Dallas, That guy, written in his own handwriting where he was in bootcamp, it contradicts that entire sheet.

02:41:03.000 So initially he says he's at San Diego basic training from October 56 to April of 57. The sheet says October 56 to December of 56, when then he's transferred to Camp Pendleton.

02:41:16.000 And then there's a discrepancy if he's in combat training or whether he's in radio school.

02:41:21.000 Okay?

02:41:22.000 And so then after that, it goes to Jacksonville, Florida.

02:41:27.000 And allegedly, Oswald, he says he was there in May and June.

02:41:31.000 But that picture you saw where he was at Biloxi, right before that, he was in Jacksonville, Florida.

02:41:38.000 And so the dates completely don't match.

02:41:41.000 March 18th to May 3rd is what we have.

02:41:43.000 But Oswald, in his own handwriting, says he was there from May to June.

02:41:46.000 Then they're both at El Toro, give or take, around the same time.

02:41:50.000 And Oswald, in his own handwriting, says he gets to Japan in September 57, and Oswald, the real Oswald, actually gets there on September 12. And then, Subic Bay in the Philippines We can say with certainty that Oswald was there from around November 20th when they left and they got there.

02:42:10.000 They actually got there about a week later, but he was there off of Atsugi until March 31st of 58. I have the paperwork on that.

02:42:17.000 I mean, it's clear cut.

02:42:18.000 So we have Oswald's own handwriting, him claiming that he was in places where he wasn't as per the official record.

02:42:23.000 Now, is there anything to substantiate Oswald's interpretation of where he was at the time?

02:42:27.000 Absolutely.

02:42:28.000 We got a guy named Alan Feld.

02:42:31.000 Allen Feld met with Oswald as they were on their way to San Diego to get registered and all that stuff.

02:42:37.000 They ended up staying together for nearly a year.

02:42:40.000 He's with Oswald in San Diego, then at Camp Pendleton, where he says they were there until late.

02:42:47.000 Oswald says April, Feld here says May, and then he says about July they were transferred to Memphis, Where they went to radar school in Memphis, right?

02:42:56.000 None of this, Memphis isn't listed anywhere, not even on Oswald's sheet.

02:42:59.000 So Feld is confirmed.

02:43:02.000 When I found Feld's record, he was in all the places he said he was.

02:43:05.000 Armstrong found that too.

02:43:06.000 So the only thing that's weird about Feld is his name is actually Alexander, not Alan R. So I don't know if this was a nickname or what the deal was, but Alexander Feld was with Oswald all the places that Alan Feld is saying that he was.

02:43:19.000 The only problem I have with Feld is Feld gets sent to Opelaka also after he deals with Oswald.

02:43:24.000 Why?

02:43:24.000 Who knows?

02:43:26.000 But Feld verifies a lot of the information in the handwritten note from Oswald himself.

02:43:32.000 It seems like if we're listening to this, Oswald was built up from the beginning.

02:43:37.000 Correct.

02:43:38.000 Almost like some dummy corporation.

02:43:40.000 You got it.

02:43:41.000 So in dummy corporations, they're generally funneling money.

02:43:46.000 What would you tell people who are watching is being funneled through those Oswald?

02:43:51.000 Well, I wouldn't say that they're funneling.

02:43:53.000 They're creating a legend.

02:43:55.000 You're creating a legend.

02:43:57.000 This is nothing more than a plot to get a spy into the Soviet Union.

02:44:01.000 And when you dig into the CIA's efforts to get a spy in the Soviet Union, you'll come across two programs that were fully active at the time Oswald was in the Soviet Union.

02:44:10.000 And you're talking about Project Redskin and you're talking about Project AE Balcony.

02:44:13.000 AE Balcony was part of a much larger program.

02:44:16.000 However, sometime around 1959, they reorganized all the Russian operations and Redskin got reclassified under AE Balcony.

02:44:25.000 Now, the dates of A.E. Balcony, give it away, because A.E. Balcony ran from 59 to 62. You'll see some references that say A.E. Balcony started in June of 60, but that's false.

02:44:35.000 The whole plan started and the reorganization occurred in 59, so you can't think of a program after things have already been reorganized under it, right?

02:44:42.000 So A.E. Balcony, 59 to 62. What years was Oswald in the Soviet Union?

02:44:47.000 59 to 62, right?

02:44:50.000 The A.E. Balcony program in its current phase when Oswald was in the Soviet Union came to an end in June of 1962. When did Oswald come back to America?

02:45:00.000 He was on a train out of Moscow on June 1, 1962. The other Marine who had defected to the Soviet Union before him, a guy named Robert Webster, who also just so happened to know Marina Oswald when she was living in the same building as him, he dipped in May of 62. Every single damn Russian operator we had left before the end of June 1962, which completely coincides with AE Balcony, all of these guys were redskin agents under AE Balcony. 0.86

02:45:28.000 That's the conclusion I've drawn. 0.95

02:45:30.000 And to do this, it wasn't like today where you can just go on and create a history for somebody.

02:45:35.000 They had to manually create a legend.

02:45:37.000 And that's what they did.

02:45:39.000 And remember, in 47, they were experimenting.

02:45:41.000 They didn't know how to create a legend without having it busted because they knew that if you used a dead person, That when the person was vetted, the person would realize that they were a dead person, right?

02:45:53.000 They had to have the background of the person match a real person that when investigated could justify, could verify the legend for them, right?

02:46:03.000 So the idea This is Armstrong's idea.

02:46:07.000 He believes that the duplicate Oswald was a fluent Russian speaker who was plucked from an Eastern Bloc country, even possibly a concentration camp, post-World War II, who spoke fluent Russian and was brought to America and raised.

02:46:20.000 By an English speaker and possibly even a person who spoke some Russian so they could do the transition for him.

02:46:26.000 But that Oswald grew up a naturalized American citizen who ended up speaking fluent Russian.

02:46:32.000 Well, this is backed up in the A.E. Balcony documents because the theme throughout all of their Russian operations is that they plan to use naturalized American citizens who spoke fluent Russian.

02:46:42.000 And that completely justifies and backs up the theory that Armstrong had of what they were doing.

02:46:47.000 And the reason that they were doing it was simply to create the legend because they couldn't do it like we do in the modern era, right?

02:46:53.000 So they did it the hard way over 20 years, manufacturing somebody from scratch.

02:46:59.000 And the idea that they would participate in things like MKUltra or that they would kill their own president, but they wouldn't raise the kid as a duplicate to be a spy.

02:47:09.000 Crazy talk.

02:47:10.000 Crazy talk.

02:47:11.000 This is tame compared to some of the stuff that they did like Gladio or, you know, everything else they've ever done, right?

02:47:17.000 So to me, I believe it started as experimentation.

02:47:19.000 It worked.

02:47:20.000 They never got busted, right?

02:47:22.000 There were times they got busted and they might have even been busted while Oswald was in the Marines and I got that coming up.

02:47:27.000 So But the counter argument to Oswald being in combat school is a guy named Donald Lloyd Goodwin, who Goodwin was a sergeant in the Marines, and he's transferred to Camp Pendleton.

02:47:39.000 And while he's in Camp Pendleton, he actually, this is in late 56 or early 57, so the timing is perfect.

02:47:45.000 He meets a guy named Lee Harvey Oswald, who's in a radio group.

02:47:49.000 And he worked with Oswald in the radio group.

02:47:51.000 And this radio group was obviously a training group because that's what's indicated in ICT training.

02:47:55.000 So Goodwin's statements back up everything about the Oswald who was in the radar school.

02:48:00.000 Right?

02:48:01.000 Crazy.

02:48:03.000 So this is a picture of Lee Harvey Oswald graduating from Camp Pendleton, December of 1956. December 22nd, I believe, of 1956. This is before the combat training, right?

02:48:18.000 He's here.

02:48:18.000 Alan Feld or Alexander Feld is here in this picture with him.

02:48:22.000 I don't know which guy it is, but he's there.

02:48:26.000 Now, this is the picture again of him graduating from the radar school in Biloxi.

02:48:32.000 So we can put this Oswald here clearly graduating 61857 because not everybody on this picture is in on this thing, right?

02:48:38.000 But there might be one person here.

02:48:41.000 Who becomes aware of Oswald?

02:48:43.000 I'm speculating, but when you see the evidence I show you, you're going to be kind of shocked that you've never heard of this before.

02:48:48.000 This is a picture of the two guys less than six months apart.

02:48:50.000 They're clearly not the same person.

02:48:52.000 The Oswald on the right has a big fat bull neck.

02:48:55.000 The guy on the left is not.

02:48:56.000 The guy on the right has a shorter nose, it appears.

02:48:59.000 But that's the real Lee Oswald.

02:49:01.000 But the Lee Oswald on the left is the one who was arrested in Dallas on November 22nd, 1963. So Oswald, the real Oswald, is assigned to a group of six men.

02:49:10.000 If you'll notice here in this picture, there's only six of them, three on this side, three on that side.

02:49:14.000 The rest of these are Air Force guys.

02:49:16.000 They're not even Marines, so they barely even have it.

02:49:18.000 None of these guys were ever interviewed, ever.

02:49:20.000 None of the Air Force men, only Marines.

02:49:22.000 They ignored all these guys who were in the Air Force.

02:49:24.000 So it's only six guys.

02:49:25.000 One of them is Daniel Powers, who's a sergeant.

02:49:28.000 And this is Oswald here.

02:49:29.000 The other men in this group are Bandoni, Brereton Camerata. 0.99

02:49:34.000 Camerata becomes a pain in the ass later. 0.99

02:49:35.000 And a guy named Martin Shrand. 0.99

02:49:38.000 And Martin Shrand might have actually been in on this thing from the jump.

02:49:44.000 So let me get back.

02:49:46.000 Now Powers is...

02:49:47.000 I don't mean to cut you off, but Powers, that name is familiar.

02:49:49.000 Is that the same on YouTube?

02:49:50.000 Yeah, is that the same Powers on the YouTube spy plane?

02:49:55.000 No, no, no, no.

02:49:57.000 That's Gary Powers.

02:49:58.000 Okay.

02:49:58.000 I don't know if there's a relation, but Daniel Powers here, he ends up being one of Oswald's sergeants here at Keesler Air Force Base, and he ends up being with him again when he's in the Philippines.

02:50:07.000 But a lot of stuff happens here, and we have to kind of sort through this.

02:50:10.000 At Keesler Air Force Base, he's listed.

02:50:12.000 I already went over that.

02:50:13.000 He's listed as on leave or whatever.

02:50:16.000 Supposed to be on leave June 19th to July 12th.

02:50:18.000 However, it's marked HQMC. Oswald sailed from San Diego August 21st, 57. He arrives in Japan September 12th, and he's assigned to MACS-1.

02:50:28.000 Which is Marine Air Control Squadron 1, which is under Marine Air Group 11, right?

02:50:34.000 So you got all these numbers and associations.

02:50:37.000 And I want you to notice something here.

02:50:39.000 You see how this copy, and this is the best copy of this that there is.

02:50:43.000 You see how this is all faded here?

02:50:45.000 I pulled this record for a whole bunch of other Marines.

02:50:48.000 None of them are faded, like they were photocopied in these areas 100 times.

02:50:51.000 They're all perfectly legible.

02:50:52.000 It's only Oswald's that you can't read what the hell is going on here.

02:50:56.000 So Oswald gets to, he arrives in Japan on September the 12th, and he works allegedly in the radar unit and on October the 27th, where is it?

02:51:09.000 Can I see it on here?

02:51:11.000 October 27th, to SK UNSH 3923, he shoots himself in the arm, okay?

02:51:18.000 And he's sent to the Yokosuka Hospital, which is 40 miles from Matsugi, and he's there for like a month, okay?

02:51:23.000 So, you'll find going to the hospital is a pattern here for Oswald, for the real Oswald.

02:51:29.000 Now, why did he shoot himself?

02:51:31.000 Number one, he wasn't supposed to ever have a gun.

02:51:33.000 He had a.22 Derringer, which no one has ever explained why he had it.

02:51:36.000 No one's ever explained why after getting busted shooting himself, why he didn't get kicked out of the Marines for having an unauthorized firearm in Japan, which was illegal, right?

02:51:44.000 He should have been kicked out of the Marines for a half a dozen reasons, and they cover for him every single time.

02:51:50.000 Well...

02:51:53.000 Does the Oswald know?

02:51:54.000 So we can get a view of where this individual may be in their headspace.

02:51:59.000 Does the Oswald know they are being...

02:52:02.000 Yes.

02:52:03.000 Both of them have to know because at times they provide the other's information, which is weird.

02:52:10.000 Yes.

02:52:11.000 So here, notice USNH Navy 3923. That is the Navy hospital at Yokosuna.

02:52:18.000 Or Yokokusa, or whatever it's pronounced.

02:52:20.000 I'm not Japanese.

02:52:21.000 So that is not Atsugi.

02:52:23.000 And it's extremely important because that number will pop up later and will determine where somebody was or wasn't, right?

02:52:28.000 So we got past this.

02:52:29.000 We got past Feld.

02:52:30.000 We got past Goodwin.

02:52:31.000 We got past these guys.

02:52:32.000 We got past the lineup.

02:52:34.000 Here we go.

02:52:34.000 The second half of this.

02:52:37.000 So this here indicates Oswald's still in Atsugi, but he's not in Atsugi.

02:52:40.000 He heads to the Philippines on November 20th, 57, and he'll be there until March 18th.

02:52:46.000 When he gets back, he's court-martialed on April 11th for the involuntary shooting himself, right?

02:52:52.000 Eventually, he'll get sent to the brig for two months, and there's more anomalies that happen while he's in the brig.

02:52:57.000 So this is the real big thing about Oswald and the Philippines and the notion that there were two Oswalds and what could happen if somebody possibly finds out.

02:53:07.000 I'm going off the speculation deep end here, but when you see what's going on, you're going to be freaked out.

02:53:13.000 When they get to the Philippines on roughly in late November, Oswald is not working a radar unit.

02:53:19.000 He's in trouble for the shooting, so he's on mess duty, right?

02:53:22.000 He's working the kitchen serving slop.

02:53:24.000 He's not in a radar unit, even though it says that that's what he's doing.

02:53:27.000 He's there with a guy named Martin Shrand.

02:53:30.000 Do I have a picture here?

02:53:31.000 This is Shrand here.

02:53:32.000 Shrand's up in this corner.

02:53:34.000 Two other guys who are in this unit are not with him either, but he's there with Powers, Brereton, and Shrand, and one other guy.

02:53:42.000 So, Shrand is on patrol January 5th, 1958. Nothing ever happens here.

02:53:51.000 There's nothing that should happen here, right?

02:53:53.000 He did not end up dead like he did.

02:53:56.000 Shrand ends up dead shot with his own shotgun.

02:54:00.000 The shooting is extremely suspicious.

02:54:03.000 The gun is found six feet from his body.

02:54:05.000 He shot underneath the left arm.

02:54:09.000 They measured his arm and they could not reproduce the shooting.

02:54:13.000 They end up concluding that he ended up dropping the gun and it shot and killed him.

02:54:18.000 However, if you go through their policies, there never should have been shotgun shells in the gun in the first place.

02:54:23.000 The policy said that they were always kept in the cylinder and not racked until you actually needed to use it, and the safety should be on.

02:54:30.000 All of those factors should be at play here, but they weren't.

02:54:33.000 For some reason, there was a shotgun shell in the barrel, the safety was off, and simultaneously, he happened to drop the gun and kill himself.

02:54:41.000 When you read through the actual documentation on this, it becomes the most suspicious thing you've ever heard of.

02:54:48.000 The thing that comes out of it is that camarada and another guy Dennis Call.

02:54:55.000 They start a rumor.

02:54:56.000 Well, the rumors trace back to them where they heard it.

02:54:58.000 Who knows?

02:54:59.000 That Oswald was responsible for this shooting and that Oswald actually shot this guy.

02:55:03.000 Now, they get a statement from everyone in this unit.

02:55:06.000 They don't get a statement from Oswald.

02:55:08.000 Allegedly, Oswald's in the mess hall, not in the radar unit.

02:55:12.000 The crazier thing about this is what they were doing in this place in the Philippines at Subic Bay, they were guarding what's called the crypto van.

02:55:21.000 And the crypto van was actually a radio encryption thing they had going on that was above top secret.

02:55:31.000 It actually required what's called a crypto clearance.

02:55:35.000 But when they dig into Oswald, they can't find anything above classified, right?

02:55:39.000 Because he did have a classified clearance.

02:55:41.000 But in order to work this unit and guard the crypto van, you have to have crypto clearance in case you have to access it in the line of your duty, right?

02:55:48.000 And so this brought in by Harold Weisberg a pun of speculation that Oswald actually had crypto clearance, which is way above classified, which is what we've all been told.

02:55:58.000 But I don't know if that's true or not, because that guy pissed a lot of people off and ended up in the brig at one point and on mess duty.

02:56:04.000 So the idea that he would have a active crypto clearance to me doesn't make sense.

02:56:08.000 It might start to make sense, but go ahead.

02:56:11.000 I want to say this.

02:56:12.000 A lot of people have said to me, and I don't know if you've ever heard it, they said, well, when you take the information you have, it's almost basic.

02:56:19.000 And what your strongest evidence to conspiracy or the people that you're tagging it to Seems to be more on the leap you make.

02:56:27.000 So the strongest evidence we have, they say, is on the leap we make, not the actual evidence.

02:56:33.000 How do you respond to people when they say that, just to give them a little base of where we are going forward?

02:56:39.000 Well, when you look at things and things don't make sense, all evidence points in a direction, right?

02:56:44.000 And so if you have Shran dead, and you have a shotgun that he could not reach the trigger and shoot himself, and the gun is five feet from him, you can rest assured that Shran did not intentionally commit suicide, right?

02:57:00.000 When you are as familiar with firearms as someone like me, who was a cop for almost 10 years, you come to realize shotguns don't shoot if you drop them, period.

02:57:10.000 Now, in this case here, I'm going to go out on a limb and say, Shran got murdered.

02:57:16.000 Period.

02:57:17.000 Because there's no other explanation that makes any sense.

02:57:19.000 So that leap that I'm making is the evidence pushing me in that direction.

02:57:23.000 And so sometimes we don't have much evidence.

02:57:26.000 Sometimes we'll have one statement from one person who's definitely not reliable.

02:57:29.000 But sometimes it's all we have.

02:57:31.000 And if that can be corroborated by other things, then what really happened kind of comes up from the smoke, so to speak, or the fog that surrounds it.

02:57:43.000 Because I tell him, I said, look, Right, right.

02:58:06.000 And I can be wrong, you know, but the amount of evidence when you look at this thing over a 20 year period, it kind of paints a picture, you know, and that's all the best you can do is try to relay that picture.

02:58:13.000 But here we go.

02:58:14.000 I mean, this is the, we have the policy here.

02:58:16.000 We have discharge of Reichen was not due to malfunction.

02:58:19.000 So then it says attempts to reconstruct the act of shooting resulted in no opinion being formed to the manner in which the weapon was fired.

02:58:24.000 They couldn't reconstruct what happened.

02:58:27.000 Even by trying, they couldn't do it.

02:58:29.000 This is what the body looked like and that's where the gun was.

02:58:31.000 And the one thing that everyone said was that they saw a pool of blood with a bunch of Christmas candy in it because it basically blew through his arm up through his chest and blew all the candy out of his pockets.

02:58:41.000 That seemed to be the most devastating thing to everybody.

02:58:44.000 So This here is a document from Gajewski, Francis Gajewski, who was his captain, who oversaw what he was doing when he was in the Philippines.

02:58:54.000 And basically, I put this in here to show that he was working in the mess hall, right?

02:58:57.000 He wasn't there on radar.

02:58:58.000 Oswald asked him if he could get off of mess duty, okay?

02:59:02.000 So here's the next thing that you should consider, whether or not Martin Schrand was murdered.

02:59:06.000 Martin Schrand had a brother named Raymond Schrand, who was in the Navy.

02:59:10.000 Okay?

02:59:11.000 Four months later, in May of 58, Raymond Schrand mysteriously falls off the boat that he's on, and they didn't find his body for like a month.

02:59:19.000 Eventually, they have a funeral for him, but Martin Schrand's older brother died in a mysterious nature, just like Martin did.

02:59:26.000 Now, let's go off the deep end on speculation here.

02:59:29.000 Let me see if I got a picture.

02:59:30.000 This here is a picture.

02:59:33.000 This is a picture of Lee Oswald when he was stationed in the Philippines.

02:59:38.000 That's not the Lee Oswald that Martin Schrand was in Biloxi with.

02:59:45.000 That's the other one.

02:59:48.000 What are the implications of that?

02:59:52.000 The implication of that is he might have figured this thing out and called his brother and told him what he thought.

02:59:57.000 And at some point he was confronted about it and he could not be allowed to spill the beans, so to speak.

03:00:03.000 Further along, when we get through more pictures, you'll see that there's a clear difference between the two men.

03:00:07.000 So this is speculation on my part.

03:00:09.000 We don't have anything else to go on.

03:00:11.000 But this is a weird incident that was covered up for sure.

03:00:16.000 And it was connected to Lee Oswald, and he was alleged to have been involved.

03:00:19.000 I don't know what to think of that.

03:00:21.000 Here's a picture of the two guys.

03:00:22.000 To me, it's clear it's not the one who was in Biloxi with...

03:00:26.000 Martin Strand, which causes problems, you know, leads to questions that nobody can answer.

03:00:32.000 The hairline is a dead giveaway, even other than the neck.

03:00:35.000 Even back then, even in 50, but these are both taken in 58. Well, this is 57, this is 58. Hairline is clearly different, just from, even from a distance.

03:00:42.000 So, and the body positioning is different.

03:00:44.000 Looks like his waist is higher.

03:00:45.000 I mean, he's just, it's just two different people.

03:00:47.000 And now let's, this is really the dead giveaway for me on, on Oswald, on what they think about Oswald.

03:00:55.000 You guys still there?

03:00:56.000 I just heard a weird...

03:00:56.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:00:57.000 No, I'm here.

03:00:58.000 I got to do another show here in about 20 or so minutes.

03:01:02.000 You got it.

03:01:02.000 I can wrap up in 20. Okay.

03:01:04.000 All right.

03:01:04.000 So here we go.

03:01:05.000 This is from the House Committee on Assassinations.

03:01:06.000 Now, the whole thing, another thing is the trip to Taiwan, because after the Philippines, later on, Oswald will go to Taiwan.

03:01:14.000 But the Warren Commission, without looking at all the evidence, they determined that Oswald did go to Taiwan.

03:01:19.000 The House Committee on Assassinations, when they looked at all the evidence, they determined Oswald did not go to Taiwan.

03:01:25.000 So we have the two official bodies who govern the outcome of this thing, and they can't agree on whether or not Oswald went to Taiwan.

03:01:30.000 Well, I'm going to tell you that he did go to Taiwan, and I'll tell you that he didn't go to Taiwan all at the same time, and the documents prove that.

03:01:37.000 So here it says, it's been stated Oswald claimed to have served in Taiwan.

03:01:40.000 The committee's review of his military records, including unit diaries that were not previously studied by the Warren Commission, indicate, however, he had not spent substantial time in Taiwan, if any.

03:01:48.000 The records show that except for a three and a half month period in the Philippines, Oswald Served in Japan from September 12th to November 2nd, 58th.

03:01:56.000 Although the Department of Defense records do indicate that the Marine Air Group 11 Oswald's unit went to Taiwan September 16th and came back in April, an examination of MAG-11 unit diaries indicated Oswald was assigned at that time to a rear echelon unit.

03:02:11.000 The term Rear Echelon does not on its face preclude service with the main unit in Taiwan, but the Department of Defense has specifically stated Oswald did not sail from Yokosuka, Japan on September 16th, and he remained aboard NAS Atsugi as part of MAG-11 Rear Echelon.

03:02:28.000 And I have documents that can prove that.

03:02:30.000 So let me skip forward.

03:02:32.000 Here we have the document proving that Oswald was, in fact, on the US Skagit, aka 105 up here.

03:02:38.000 You can Google that and confirm all that.

03:02:39.000 On September 14th, here he was on his way to Taiwan.

03:02:45.000 Now, the big date in question, that's a problem, is October the 6th, and they have lied in the official documentation on when Oswald was actually moved around.

03:02:53.000 So we know Oswald was there because on October the 5th, Oswald was on guard duty, and he seemingly got in trouble on purpose.

03:03:00.000 At night, he fired his weapon into the woods and said, I can't be on guard duty.

03:03:04.000 And he was basically punished, removed from the unit.

03:03:08.000 And in the afternoon on October 6th, he was put on a plane from Pingtung, Taiwan, which arrived at night.

03:03:14.000 And the next day on October 7th, he reported for duty.

03:03:17.000 Note, he's in MAX 11.1, MAG 11. Now, we go to the next document, October 6th, 58. Exact same date.

03:03:26.000 Okay?

03:03:26.000 But he's not in Pingtung.

03:03:28.000 He's in Atsugi.

03:03:29.000 And this was done in the beginning of the morning, showing where everyone is for the day.

03:03:33.000 This is what the diaries are for.

03:03:34.000 And it's showing he's in a subunit.

03:03:36.000 This is the rear echelon unit that the House Committee was talking about.

03:03:39.000 Okay?

03:03:40.000 So we got two different units.

03:03:41.000 We got the MAC-11 unit in Taiwan, and we have the subunit here still at Atsugi, just like the document said.

03:03:47.000 And here we got Lee Oswald right there, 3230. That's him.

03:03:50.000 Oswald's officially in two places at once.

03:03:52.000 And now why did this cause so much trouble for them?

03:03:54.000 Well, I'll show you.

03:03:55.000 Because Oswald had gonorrhea.

03:03:57.000 Okay, Oswald did something where he got anal bleeding, bleeding from the rectum for over a month, and he had two months of gonorrhea.

03:04:07.000 And starting September 16th, actually, it was before this, it was actually in August, the first visit to the hospital, between that date and August, he's at Navy Hospital 3835. He's not at 3926 or whatever it was, which is Yokozuka.

03:04:20.000 He is at Atsugi 3835 Hospital being treated for urethral discharge for two months, the entire time he's allegedly in Taiwan.

03:04:30.000 Look at this, urethral discharge, urethral discharge.

03:04:32.000 He's at Atsugi, he's at Atsugi.

03:04:34.000 Then they realize there's a problem.

03:04:36.000 So it seems like we got a lazy Oswald, a reckless Oswald, and now a degenerate Oswald?

03:04:41.000 No.

03:04:41.000 The degenerate Oswald, when you dig into this, maybe it says it here.

03:04:45.000 He got gonorrhea in the line of duty, is what it says.

03:04:50.000 And this connects to some rampant speculation about Oswald and a Japanese hooker who worked at a bar called the Queen Bee, where he potentially got this.

03:05:00.000 But I don't know. 0.97

03:05:00.000 You come in with gonorrhea and anal bleeding, I don't think you got it from a hooker, right? 0.97

03:05:06.000 That's what was going on the entire time that the other Oswald, see? 0.97

03:05:11.000 And then this is what they say in the official documentation, that they say that Oswald wasn't sent back for misconduct.

03:05:16.000 He was sent back for medical reasons and that he checked into the hospital at Atsugi for heavy lifting.

03:05:22.000 That's the official story.

03:05:23.000 But that's not possible because it wasn't that Oswald that got admitted to the hospital.

03:05:27.000 It's the same Oswald that's been in the subunit.

03:05:30.000 Right?

03:05:31.000 So what does this tell you?

03:05:32.000 The other Oswald comes back from Taiwan, ends up in Atsugi, and that day this Oswald hops into the hospital so he's maybe not to interact with him or something along those lines.

03:05:42.000 I'm speculating, but that's what would make sense.

03:05:44.000 Every time the Oswald seemed to be close in the same place, this Oswald either goes to jail or the hospital.

03:05:50.000 Right?

03:05:52.000 So then we have a statement from William K. Trail.

03:05:54.000 Everyone, I'll make this brief.

03:05:55.000 Everyone said William K. Trail was in Oswald's unit.

03:05:58.000 Go talk to him.

03:05:59.000 So the FBI goes and talks to William K. Trail.

03:06:01.000 He says that when his group went to, he said, yeah, Oswald was in my group, but when we went down to Taiwan, he was in jail, right?

03:06:07.000 He was in the brig.

03:06:08.000 But that means that Trail went at a different time, indicating that Oswald was in his unit, but it was a different unit.

03:06:14.000 More evidence that there were two Oswalds in two different units.

03:06:18.000 Here's another thing.

03:06:20.000 We're about to wrap this up here.

03:06:21.000 On January 17th, 45, Oswald had his tonsils out.

03:06:25.000 We even have the doctor's name and the date and everything.

03:06:27.000 Yet Oswald was admitted to the hospital twice.

03:06:30.000 Platoon 2060, the other Oswald who didn't know that he had his tonsils out, right?

03:06:35.000 So twice, he's there for swollen tonsil here, left tonsil.

03:06:38.000 But his tonsils were out in 45. More evidence that there was a duplicate.

03:06:42.000 This is some of the best evidence there is.

03:06:43.000 So this Oswald, the real Oswald, had a tooth knocked out when he was in Boer Guard High School in ninth grade, right?

03:06:52.000 Obviously, he gets it fixed.

03:06:53.000 At some point in the Marines, he has to go to the dentist, and he goes to the dentist because the prosthesis failed.

03:06:59.000 He says his prosthesis, yes, and it says failed, and it has a date there, right?

03:07:03.000 So the tooth that he had that was a cap broke, and he had to have it fixed while in the Marines.

03:07:07.000 However, when Oswald's dug up an autopsy, he's got both his natural teeth.

03:07:13.000 That doesn't make any sense at all, does it?

03:07:15.000 Interesting.

03:07:16.000 No.

03:07:17.000 So, here we go.

03:07:18.000 When Oswald defects to the Soviet Union, this is the article that they put out and this is the picture that they used.

03:07:25.000 Does that look like the Lee Harvey Oswald that was arrested in Dallas on November 22nd?

03:07:29.000 Absolutely not.

03:07:31.000 These are three passport photos that were gotten, one in LA in 59, then he had one issued in Minsk.

03:07:38.000 The one in Minsk might be from a visa, not a passport.

03:07:41.000 But then New Orleans, and this is not 32, it should be 63. I just screwed up on that.

03:07:45.000 He got this in June of 63, immediately after coming back from The Soviet Union.

03:07:50.000 Why did he get a new passport?

03:07:51.000 His passport was good for two more years.

03:07:53.000 We got an immediate one with a new picture on it because it had this picture on it before.

03:07:57.000 These two people are the same.

03:07:58.000 That one is not.

03:08:00.000 Clearly.

03:08:02.000 Again, comparing it to the photo taken in Minsk, not the same guy.

03:08:07.000 LA 59 and Minsk 62. No one changes that much in two years.

03:08:11.000 Same thing against the other Minsk photo.

03:08:14.000 Clearly not the same person.

03:08:17.000 These are eight photos of the same person.

03:08:19.000 This is the real Lee Oswald, him as a child, him with his tooth knocked out in school, him in the Civil Air Patrol.

03:08:25.000 So note, the Oswald who got arrested was not the Oswald in the Civil Air Patrol.

03:08:29.000 It's the real Oswald.

03:08:30.000 Then we have Oswald with his big fat bull neck here.

03:08:33.000 Then we have him at Atsugi.

03:08:35.000 Then we have him when he's transferred back to El Toro.

03:08:38.000 Then we have the picture in 58, December of 58, which is clearly all the same person so far.

03:08:43.000 And then he's clearly the same person on the passport photo.

03:08:46.000 And then when you skip to the other Oswald, these are all the same person as well.

03:08:50.000 But clearly...

03:08:52.000 And you don't even have the ones of him parading around in Mexico City that the CIA tried to say was him.

03:08:57.000 Oh, yeah.

03:08:57.000 Which looked absolutely nothing like that.

03:08:59.000 Well, there's more to that story.

03:09:00.000 They didn't...

03:09:01.000 When you read the details of, like, Anna Gerter and all the people who were down there, and Goodpasture, and Alan B. White, and all the guys who were down there in Mexico City, at the Mexico City station...

03:09:10.000 Really, they sent that picture because he was the only white guy to go to the embassy all day.

03:09:13.000 They didn't send it because they thought it was Oswald.

03:09:15.000 He was the only white guy to go to the embassy.

03:09:17.000 But then it turns out he wasn't the only white guy.

03:09:19.000 It was other white guys. 1.00

03:09:20.000 And they're just lying their asses off, right? 0.99

03:09:21.000 Because Mexico City and David Atlee Phillips had to be intimately connected to at least Kerry Thornley to cover for him when he went down there to the embassy, because that's what they did. 0.98

03:09:29.000 They covered for him.

03:09:30.000 Yes, sir.

03:09:30.000 So, but this is clearly another person.

03:09:32.000 This is the other Oswald.

03:09:33.000 This is the Oswald who was arrested on November 22nd in Dealey Plaza.

03:09:37.000 And this is the Oswald who disappears after 1959. This passport photo is the last known photo.

03:09:43.000 Nobody has any idea what happened to this guy afterwards.

03:09:45.000 He might have assumed the identity of a guy named Donald O. Norton, but that's a whole other story.

03:09:51.000 So duplicate Oswald, and this is a, can I wrap up?

03:09:54.000 Yeah, I'm gonna wrap up here momentarily.

03:09:56.000 So John Pick was the half-brother of Lee Oswald, right?

03:09:59.000 He's not in on this thing at all.

03:10:00.000 The last time he sees Oswald is in New York in 1953 when he goes up there to go to school, when there's all that contradiction with the school records, right?

03:10:08.000 So he's shown this picture here of allegedly Lee Harvey Oswald at the Bronx Zoo.

03:10:14.000 He says he's not my brother.

03:10:15.000 He goes, sir, from that picture, I could not recognize that that's Lee Harvey Oswald.

03:10:19.000 He goes, that fella doesn't look like the fella you recall from 52 and 53 in New York City?

03:10:23.000 He goes, no, sir.

03:10:25.000 Go down a little bit.

03:10:26.000 He's like, okay, on the right hand corner here, there's another picture.

03:10:28.000 Do you recognize this picture as your brother Lee?

03:10:31.000 Listen to what he says.

03:10:33.000 Yes, sir.

03:10:33.000 This is about how he looked when I seen him in 1962. He continually, as he's identifying pictures, differentiating between the pre-1962 Oswald because the Oswald that he knew is not the Oswald that came back because he didn't know.

03:10:47.000 At no time in his life did he ever interact with the other Oswald until Thanksgiving Day, November 62, where they put the other Oswald with him because I guess they assumed he looked close enough to the real Oswald that his brother wouldn't notice.

03:10:59.000 But give me a break.

03:10:59.000 A brother would notice.

03:11:01.000 Then here at the bottom here, he goes, Exhibit number 288 in the lower left-hand corner is a reproduction of a service card and a reproduction also a photograph with the head of a man.

03:11:11.000 Do you recognize that?

03:11:13.000 And he says, No, sir, I do not recognize them.

03:11:15.000 He goes, Exhibit 290, the lower left hand corner is a photograph of the young lady and a young man.

03:11:19.000 Do you recognize either of those persons?

03:11:21.000 He goes, He appears to me as Lee Harvey Oswald in 1962 when I seen him, right?

03:11:25.000 So he's making a differentiation between Lee Harvey Oswald pre 62 when he's seen him and post 62. So then here he talks specifically about the physical changes.

03:11:35.000 He goes, you noticed, did you, a material change physically first?

03:11:37.000 Let's take his physical appearance.

03:11:39.000 He goes, yes, sir, physically, I noticed it.

03:11:41.000 What did you notice?

03:11:42.000 Well, he was much thinner than I remembered him.

03:11:44.000 He didn't have much hair.

03:11:45.000 Did that arrest your attention?

03:11:48.000 He goes, yes, sir.

03:11:49.000 It struck me quite profusely.

03:11:51.000 He goes, his features were different, somewhat different, being his eyes were set back.

03:11:54.000 You know, in these army pictures, like, it looked different than I remembered him.

03:11:58.000 His face was rounder.

03:12:00.000 Marilyn had described him to me when he went into the Marine Corps as having a bull neck This I noticed.

03:12:05.000 I didn't notice at all.

03:12:06.000 I was looking for it, and I didn't notice it at all.

03:12:08.000 And clearly the bull neck is visible all day long on the other Oswald.

03:12:12.000 We see it right here in this picture.

03:12:14.000 Not on the one that was brought back and they tried to sell to John Pick as his brother.

03:12:18.000 He didn't buy it for a second.

03:12:19.000 After this, John Pick shuts up forever.

03:12:22.000 You never talk to him again, right?

03:12:24.000 So then you have weird things.

03:12:25.000 So Oswald's busted with a DOD ID, but it's fake.

03:12:28.000 The original one actually said 8th of December 62 for a Expiration date.

03:12:33.000 This says 7th of December, 62. So this is clearly a fake.

03:12:36.000 But whoever faked it knew Oswald's real number on the real DoD card that they issued him.

03:12:42.000 So Oswald didn't make this.

03:12:43.000 Who the hell made this card?

03:12:46.000 Nobody knows.

03:12:47.000 All right, then we have some of the final controversial stuff.

03:12:51.000 Oswald allegedly went out of the Marines in September of 59. But we have a document here from Major William P. Gorski who says that he knew Oswald and Oswald was discharged in March of 59 and that all of Oswald's records were sent to Washington.

03:13:04.000 He also reported that Oswald reportedly had been arrested by the Santa Ana, California Police Department for hitchhiking in 1959. But a check of that record of the Santa Ana Police Department failed to locate a record for his arrest.

03:13:15.000 So Oswald gets arrested in 59 hitchhiking, and then they had to cover it up.

03:13:19.000 Wild, huh?

03:13:21.000 And then here's the thing that supports the idea that Oswald got out way sooner than we're told.

03:13:25.000 His brother, Robert Oswald, when he's interviewed, he tells him that after he got out of the service and came to Fort Worth, he was there for a few months, and then he went to New Orleans about October 59. So that's a big gap.

03:13:39.000 That's a big thing to screw up on.

03:13:41.000 You'll know whether your brother's there a couple days or a few months, right?

03:13:45.000 And then this is the final thing we're talking about today.

03:13:48.000 Part of the House Committee on Assassinations, they did executive sessions.

03:13:53.000 And in an executive session, they talked to a guy named James Wilcott, who testified in 1967 or eight, something like that.

03:14:01.000 Or maybe it was later.

03:14:01.000 Maybe it was in the 70s.

03:14:03.000 But anyway, he was a CIA accountant who worked at Atsugi because Atsugi was a special base.

03:14:10.000 It wasn't really about the U2. It was more about our nuclear stuff that was going on there.

03:14:15.000 And so he basically said that he distributed money For a project called the Oswald Project, or that the money was for Oswald, and that he claims the Oswald Project had a CIA cryptonym of RxZim.

03:14:31.000 So now you're thinking, most people would be thinking, I thought for years this guy was completely full of it.

03:14:36.000 But in the unedited testimony that they released, he drops the names of all kinds of people who are working for the CIA at the Atsugi station.

03:14:45.000 And these names, not only do they check out, he gives a name here that nobody should know.

03:14:51.000 And that's Robert Hashima.

03:14:53.000 If you see this name right here, Robert Hashima, deep commercial cover.

03:14:56.000 Robert Hashima was a Japanese national who was a deep cover for the CIA. Nobody in the world should have known that except people who were directly connected to him.

03:15:06.000 And he dropped this name, which proves everything that he said as far as I'm concerned.

03:15:12.000 So, yeah, Robert Hashima is an absolutely incredible name to drop.

03:15:16.000 And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a very abbreviated tale of two Oswalds.

03:15:21.000 The real version of that should be like three to five hundred slides.

03:15:26.000 Tim, I mean, I think at this point that's pretty irrefutable that there was absolutely a body double and there was more than one Oswald.

03:15:34.000 And the crazy part is that they had been kind of planning this for years.

03:15:39.000 Well, I think it was a separate operation.

03:15:41.000 I mean, I believe it was all about getting a spy in the Soviet Union by creating a legend by using a body double.

03:15:47.000 That's it.

03:15:47.000 It's that simple.

03:15:48.000 And it's not crazy when you understand what the CIA has been up to.

03:15:51.000 And so it had nothing to do with the assassination until, honestly, I put the planning for the assassination in February of 63 because that was when they had the meeting of Permindex, the annual meeting of Permindex, which is where I believe they gave the green light because by March, the first week of March, the rifle was ordered in Oswald's name.

03:16:13.000 So we don't have any evidence of setup prior to the rifle being ordered.

03:16:17.000 That's the first thing, really, besides the body double stuff, of course.

03:16:21.000 I believe the assassination came way late and that they just transitioned an old program to a new one.

03:16:27.000 And I believe they thought it would tie up a lot of loose ends.

03:16:29.000 But then the JFK Records Act led to the documents being released, which created a slew of researchers like myself, who then obviously came to the conclusions that we came to.

03:16:38.000 So...

03:16:39.000 It backfired on him.

03:16:40.000 It's funny when I look at a lot of the places where it says he served, where the military is putting all the places where he served.

03:16:47.000 Isn't it right in, like, the gun-running highway, all the way from Opelika, from where he was in Louisiana to where he was in Dallas, which is what ferry them were known for doing, running guns, at the same time that Oswald was in his company.

03:17:05.000 Ah, well, ferry-running guns...

03:17:08.000 Here's the thing about ferry running guns.

03:17:10.000 Everyone thinks that he was running guns to raise weapons for the anti-caster Cubans.

03:17:14.000 But we know from Gordon Novell, all the money, all the arms, everything that got stolen from all the bunkers that they broke into, all that stuff got sold to a company in Virginia called InterArmCo, which was run by a guy named Samuel Cummings, who's a CIA agent, the same CIA agent, by the way, who imported the lot of 70 Carcanos that Oswald's allegedly came from. 0.98

03:17:35.000 Shit. 0.95

03:17:36.000 It is a tangled scheme that all leads back to the same places, and it's not in America. 1.00

03:17:41.000 It's Israel. 0.51

03:17:42.000 And so, sorry we didn't get to talk about Israel today, but I can come back on some time and talk nothing about Israel.

03:17:48.000 So I got hours I could talk about them and the mob and all that stuff.

03:17:51.000 Yeah, you know what?

03:17:51.000 I'm debating whether we do a stream tomorrow and finish this up, because obviously I have to go and do a second stream right now with some lovely ladies, but I'm debating whether we do a second stream tomorrow.

03:18:02.000 I actually, I have this.

03:18:03.000 I'm already booked on a show tomorrow, a long show in the afternoon, and I can't do it tomorrow night, but I'd be more than happy to do it like next week or anytime you want.

03:18:10.000 Maybe, maybe Sunday then.

03:18:11.000 Can you do Sunday?

03:18:12.000 Possibly.

03:18:13.000 I got two shows on Sunday.

03:18:14.000 I apologize.

03:18:16.000 I've been busy lately.

03:18:17.000 No worries, man.

03:18:18.000 I do 10 to 12, maybe 13 shows a week.

03:18:21.000 My own podcast, I do usually daily.

03:18:22.000 My sub stack is supposed to be daily, but it's really two, three times a week.

03:18:26.000 And then I do day zero, and I do Showtime with the Cube.

03:18:29.000 I got a whole bunch of stuff I'm tied up in.

03:18:31.000 No worries, man.

03:18:31.000 No worries.

03:18:32.000 We'll figure out a date.

03:18:33.000 But guys, well, Tommy, I'll have you kind of tell the people where they can find you, and then we'll have Corey close it up.

03:18:43.000 Well, it's easy.

03:18:43.000 You can find me.

03:18:44.000 Just look up me on my website at tjskoc.com or just Google Tommy Sotomayor and it'll pull up my website and all of my stuff is there.

03:18:54.000 Wherever I'm not banned, I'm there.

03:18:57.000 All right.

03:18:58.000 Tommy, hit me up.

03:18:59.000 We'll have a conversation sometime.

03:19:01.000 Yes, Corey.

03:19:03.000 I'm definitely going to hit you up.

03:19:05.000 You are a treasure trove.

03:19:07.000 I keep telling people they think I'm crazy.

03:19:10.000 I used to make the trek to the Mecca, so to speak, down there in Dealey Plaza.

03:19:15.000 And you just sit and watch.

03:19:16.000 And the first thing that you notice when you first go there is how small it is.

03:19:21.000 Oh, it's tiny.

03:19:21.000 It's super tiny.

03:19:24.000 I call it the Propaganda Museum, but it's fascinating.

03:19:27.000 I'm a collector of historical items.

03:19:29.000 I mean, I got some crazy stuff.

03:19:30.000 I have a book signed from Jack Valenti to Frank Church, the guy looking for the Grassy Nill Shooter, signed by the Grassy Nill Shooter.

03:19:38.000 So I got some hella collectibles.

03:19:41.000 I'd love to have half the stuff in that museum, but, you know.

03:19:44.000 I love going there and the next thing you know, the people who make their money there will get mad because I'll start talking and the group around me will get bigger and bigger and bigger.

03:19:54.000 You ever did that?

03:19:56.000 Just go and start talking.

03:19:57.000 I love doing that.

03:19:59.000 It really is.

03:20:00.000 Pick up my book.

03:20:01.000 It's a warning from history.

03:20:02.000 It's on Amazon and I go into the absolute nitty gritty details of what happened in the book depository, the impersonations of Oswald.

03:20:10.000 Man, I can't wait.

03:20:10.000 We didn't talk about Kerry Thornley, man, but we could do a whole show on Kerry Thornley.

03:20:14.000 I have completely debunked his alleged historical Marine record, showed that his entire training revolved around Oswald, even in the Marines.

03:20:22.000 That's a whole other thing.

03:20:23.000 But a warning from history, and my website's coreyhughes.org.

03:20:27.000 Boom.

03:20:27.000 Now, that's about it.

03:20:29.000 All right, guys, it's great talking with you guys.

03:20:32.000 What I'll do is I'll set up a second one, and we'll go into the Israeli connection.

03:20:35.000 We didn't get to do it this time, but I think that'll be very important for the people to see.

03:20:41.000 But yeah, guys, thank you so much for coming on the call, man.

03:20:44.000 Man, I'm exhausted.

03:20:45.000 Thank you for having me.

03:20:45.000 That was tiring.

03:20:46.000 Yeah, no.

03:20:48.000 Can't wait to talk more with you, Corey.

03:20:50.000 All right, thank you, guys.

03:20:51.000 Cool.

Fresh & Fit - November 22, 2024

Exposing WHO Killed JFK w- Cory Hughes & Tommy Sotomayor

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