Fresh & Fit - Free Speech, Lockdowns, Alex Jones Bankruptcy And MORE!

00:06:51.000 And we are live.

00:06:52.000 What's up, guys?

00:06:52.000 Welcome to Frustrated Podcast.

00:06:53.000 We're here with Viva Frye, man.

00:06:54.000 We got a lot to talk about.

00:06:55.000 Let's get into it!

00:06:55.000 Let's go!

00:07:43.000 We're good to go.

00:07:45.000 Alright, we're back.

00:07:46.000 We're back.

00:07:47.000 What's up, guys?

00:07:47.000 Welcome to Fresh Air Podcast, regular edition.

00:07:49.000 It's Money Monday.

00:07:49.000 We're here with Viva Fryman.

00:07:50.000 I'm excited for this interview.

00:07:52.000 We're going to be breaking down a couple of things, some current events, some past events, but we got some stuff to talk about.

00:07:56.000 Before we get into it, guys, CastleClub.tv, as you guys know, that is where we post all of our content now.

00:08:01.000 Mo did a fantastic job, and he organized all of the videos on Castle Club into playlists, whether it's After Hours, Frank Castle's, guest interviews, etc.

00:08:09.000 A lot of the interviews that we had to take down off of YouTube, guys, because as you guys know, we had to take down a bunch of videos.

00:08:13.000 Yeah.

00:08:13.000 Yes.

00:08:14.000 Right?

00:08:15.000 Those are all going to go on Castle Club.

00:08:16.000 Mo's going to retroactively repost a lot of them on there.

00:08:18.000 Some of them aren't even on Rumble.

00:08:20.000 So we are going to have our entire backlog of content on CastleClub.tv.

00:08:25.000 You can still find a lot of it on Rumble and on YouTube, guys.

00:08:27.000 But as you guys know, we have to take down a bunch of videos to try to get re-monetized.

00:08:31.000 We'll see what the hell happens.

00:08:32.000 If we get re-monetized, awesome.

00:08:33.000 If we don't, it is what it is.

00:08:34.000 But, you know, you got to try, right?

00:08:36.000 You're going to see a lot of them under legacy content.

00:08:39.000 You're going to see special events like the live event that we did at the venue or the overnight streams.

00:08:44.000 We have the Fresh Match playlist, Money Mondays, gaming streams, even Fed Reacts.

00:08:50.000 We have a bunch of these playlists.

00:08:52.000 You're going to see it organized and it's going to be easy to find for you guys.

00:08:55.000 Yeah, and we'll actually, what we'll do is, in the middle of the broadcast here, we'll pull it up and kind of show you guys what it looks like, how we organize it for y'all, but Castle Club is going to have everything there, guys.

00:09:03.000 I think the best ones are the most random ones, though, where it's like traveling, having fun with the guys.

00:09:07.000 Those are the most fun.

00:09:08.000 Yeah, so we will go ahead and have that ready for y'all.

00:09:12.000 But what I was saying was, also, rumble.com slash FreshFit, guys, that is the home base, man.

00:09:16.000 Also, Viva Fry is also on Rumble, so make sure to check them out on there.

00:09:19.000 But that's the home base for us, guys.

00:09:21.000 You know, some haters out there trying to say, no, it's that we don't necessarily prioritize YouTube as much as we used to, guys, because unfortunately...

00:09:28.000 They can demonetize you and cancel you at any time, guys.

00:09:31.000 So you gotta go ahead and set up a structure somewhere else where freedom of speech is allowed and you're not necessarily censored.

00:09:36.000 And it is what it is.

00:09:37.000 Obviously, it's their house.

00:09:39.000 It's their rules.

00:09:39.000 So we gotta play by those rules.

00:09:41.000 But if we wanna give you guys certain types of content, we have to put it on certain types of platforms that allow it.

00:09:46.000 So we can't keep all of our stuff up on YouTube.

00:09:49.000 The way we want, unfortunately.

00:09:51.000 So, but it's going to be, a majority of it's still going to be on Rumble.

00:09:53.000 Don't worry, absolutely free.

00:09:54.000 And then a lot of the other stuff we're going to post on Castle Club for y'all.

00:09:57.000 And then what else?

00:09:59.000 Yacht Party?

00:09:59.000 Yacht Party.

00:10:00.000 Yacht Party.

00:10:01.000 We're going to push it.

00:10:02.000 Guys, we just got told today that we got a Rumble event on June 28th.

00:10:05.000 It's Power Slap.

00:10:06.000 It's Power Slap.

00:10:07.000 So we're going to be out there in Vegas.

00:10:08.000 We'll probably collab with Michael Sartain and Rolo and everything else like that.

00:10:11.000 But you guys know that we pretty much always go to these events, show support for Rumble.

00:10:14.000 So we're going to be there on the 28th.

00:10:16.000 And then we're going to do the Yacht Party either on the 12th or the 13th.

00:10:19.000 We're pushing it back.

00:10:20.000 So all the people that have bought tickets, they've been notified.

00:10:24.000 We're good to go.

00:10:25.000 But we're going to be selling the VIP tickets still.

00:10:27.000 So you guys get a little bit more time.

00:10:29.000 It's going to be at the price point at $35.

00:10:31.000 Yeah.

00:10:31.000 Right?

00:10:32.000 For the VIPs.

00:10:33.000 We got just a limited amount of spots.

00:10:34.000 Remember, guys, there's 120 tickets total, but around half or more are going to go to girls.

00:10:40.000 So we only have a limited amount of spots for guys that are VIPs.

00:10:42.000 Like three quarters going to girls.

00:10:44.000 Oh, three. 1.00

00:10:44.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:10:45.000 Okay, so yeah. 0.99

00:10:46.000 We're trying to make it exclusive, guys.

00:10:48.000 We don't want it where it's like, I understand that the price point's a bit high, and that's fine.

00:10:51.000 We're going to do free meetups and everything else like that.

00:10:53.000 But this one is a party, networking event.

00:10:55.000 We're going to have other creators there.

00:10:56.000 It's going to be a very...

00:10:59.000 It's going to be a higher class thing, man.

00:11:01.000 It's going to be a nice yacht, 100 foot plus, with a bunch of chicks on there. 1.00

00:11:05.000 It's going to be classy, right?

00:11:06.000 We're trying to make it exclusive, and that's what it is.

00:11:08.000 Obviously, you have to do that with certain price points.

00:11:10.000 If you can't afford it, that's totally fine.

00:11:12.000 We'll have other events that will be cheaper, and we'll have other meetups that are going to be absolutely free, but this one is going to be more of a...

00:11:18.000 It's not just going to be a party, but it's going to be a networking event.

00:11:20.000 You're going to be able to meet certain people, high net worth individuals that are going to be there because if they can afford that, clearly they've got their money together.

00:11:26.000 And we're going to be streaming it as well.

00:11:28.000 So you'll be able to come on the yacht, collab with us, get your stuff shouted out, which that might be in itself worth it.

00:11:34.000 So, you know, like I said before, that's how we're going to do it.

00:11:37.000 Link is pinned in the comments on Cals Club.

00:11:39.000 We only have it open up for Cals Club members right now at this moment.

00:11:41.000 It's not open up to the general public.

00:11:43.000 I think the biggest thing is being in the right room at the right time.

00:11:45.000 And that's the right time to be in the room because we're going to be with all creators in there as well as millionaires.

00:11:48.000 So it's going to be really good.

00:11:49.000 Yeah, man.

00:11:50.000 So we're trying to keep it exclusive, guys.

00:11:51.000 That's why the price point is where it's at, right?

00:11:53.000 So like I said before, for now, we're selling the VIP tickets and we're focusing on that.

00:11:56.000 Once we sell that out, then we'll talk about the other stuff.

00:11:58.000 And we're almost there.

00:11:59.000 And we're almost there.

00:11:59.000 Shout out to all of us.

00:12:00.000 Shout out to all y'all ninjas, man.

00:12:02.000 Haters want to go ahead and pocket watch us and everything else like that because they can't necessarily, you know, provide that kind of value.

00:12:08.000 So they're over here saying it's all a scam or whatever, but haters are going to hate, right? 0.99

00:12:11.000 If I was just making reaction videos all day, I'd be mad too because I don't teach my people anything besides talking shit. 0.98

00:12:16.000 People forget, we sold out all our parties so far. 0.97

00:12:18.000 So it's cool, bro.

00:12:19.000 You can take a hate.

00:12:20.000 Yeah, man.

00:12:20.000 Haters are going to hate.

00:12:21.000 We have real conversations here and not just gossip.

00:12:23.000 Provide value.

00:12:23.000 But anyway, without further ado, we've got a special guest in the house.

00:12:25.000 I say...

00:12:27.000 I say...

00:12:29.000 I hear things.

00:12:30.000 No, don't worry.

00:12:30.000 Before, when I was coming down here, I like to Google who I'm going to do an interview with and scandal or controversy, and that was one of them that came up.

00:12:37.000 Of course.

00:12:37.000 35 people was $3,500, not $35.

00:12:40.000 And people were saying, I don't know who I was listening to, but that was one scandal.

00:12:44.000 There were a few, but at least controversy.

00:12:46.000 Yeah, there was one scandal to this.

00:12:47.000 Yeah, with our castle club, our locals is 35 and people complain about that because we do Zoom calls also.

00:12:53.000 We do a lot of coaching on there behind the scenes.

00:12:56.000 And, you know, obviously, and then we're also doing like meetups and everything else like that.

00:12:59.000 So it's not just like a typical locals membership where we're just posting content.

00:13:02.000 We're also trying to create a community on there.

00:13:04.000 Brotherhood, basically.

00:13:05.000 I heard somewhere on the internet that there was going to be a Rolex that was being offered at the boat party.

00:13:09.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:13:10.000 We're having a Rolex raffle, yeah.

00:13:11.000 So you're just gambling for a Rolex.

00:13:13.000 What is the market value of the Rolex, if I may ask?

00:13:16.000 Two seven to ten K. Yeah.

00:13:17.000 Or higher.

00:13:18.000 How much?

00:13:18.000 Seven to ten K. Okay.

00:13:19.000 For a watch?

00:13:20.000 Yeah, it's a Datejust.

00:13:21.000 That you put on your hand?

00:13:22.000 Yes.

00:13:23.000 Yeah, it's nice.

00:13:24.000 Interesting.

00:13:25.000 It's like a small car on your hand.

00:13:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:13:28.000 It's a nice one.

00:13:28.000 So, yeah, we're going to raffle that off.

00:13:30.000 We're going to have a bunch of girls there. 1.00

00:13:32.000 We're going to bring some games out, open bar, free food.

00:13:37.000 And then to rent a yacht out isn't cheap, man.

00:13:39.000 So it's going to be something a bit higher class.

00:13:43.000 But people are always going to complain and find something.

00:13:45.000 And we have lower tier stuff.

00:13:46.000 People can obviously participate in that.

00:13:48.000 But it's always interesting how people have something to say about how you run your business or how you...

00:13:53.000 And if the price point is too low, it sells out too quickly.

00:13:56.000 People complain it's sold out too quickly.

00:13:57.000 Have more tickets.

00:13:58.000 Candace Owens, when she joined Menecht, and she had a very expensive per minute.

00:14:03.000 Oh, yeah.

00:14:04.000 You don't get access to people for free, nor do you get to fault them for pricing it at what people are willing to pay, nor do you get to fault people for spending the money the way they want to spend it.

00:14:12.000 You wouldn't find me on that yacht because nothing good happens after midnight.

00:14:16.000 I got my dogs to take care of, but it sounds like it's going to be a party.

00:14:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:14:20.000 No, it's going to be a good time.

00:14:21.000 And people forget, all of our parties have been a success.

00:14:24.000 The YouTube party for one million, our last party as well, for the after event.

00:14:28.000 I mean, it's fun, man.

00:14:29.000 Yeah, so it is what it is, man.

00:14:31.000 But we know who you are.

00:14:32.000 Yeah, but for the people that might not know, can you introduce yourself to the people, please?

00:14:35.000 Yeah, everyone knows that I probably suffer from undiagnosed ADHD and being here is like being in a Vegas casino.

00:14:41.000 There's like cameras, there's televisions everywhere.

00:14:44.000 It's wild.

00:14:44.000 And I can see the chat as we're doing this.

00:14:46.000 Viva Frey.

00:14:47.000 So my real name is David Freyheit.

00:14:48.000 Freyheit means freedom in German or Germanic language is Yiddish.

00:14:51.000 It means freedom verbatim.

00:14:54.000 Born and raised Montreal, Canadian, Canuck.

00:14:56.000 English but speak French.

00:14:58.000 Youngest of five kids.

00:15:00.000 Dad's a lawyer.

00:15:00.000 Four of the five kids are lawyers.

00:15:02.000 We all still speak despite not necessarily sharing the same politics.

00:15:06.000 I think the...

00:15:06.000 I would say the liberals are outnumbered three to two by the conservatives or ultra mega.

00:15:11.000 But we love each other.

00:15:13.000 We get along.

00:15:13.000 We have a good family, but we don't see eye to eye on politics.

00:15:16.000 And you just don't talk about it at Christmas.

00:15:18.000 Ended up in Florida because the world went batshit crazy with COVID and I realized that Canada, not sure if it's a sinking ship that can't be, you know, salvaged or can't be righted, but I think the battle to fight right now is more effectively waged in the beautiful free state of Florida than the censored country of Canada where it will be soon outright illegal.

00:15:40.000 I'll be put in jail for some of the tweets that I put out in Canada if I stayed there forever and it wasn't a life for raising a family anymore either.

00:15:47.000 I met a YouTuber from Canada.

00:15:48.000 I forgot his name, man.

00:15:49.000 He's a fitness guy, went into fitness, had a girlfriend too as well.

00:15:52.000 He got banned for saying somebody was fat.

00:15:55.000 I was like, in Canada?

00:15:57.000 That's crazy!

00:15:59.000 Banned from YouTube?

00:16:01.000 There's words that you can't say on YouTube that don't just relate to race, religion, or politics, but body stuff.

00:16:08.000 The A word, which I had no idea you cannot mention on YouTube.

00:16:12.000 But it's nuts.

00:16:14.000 We've entered a realm of reality where certain types of discussions, however offensive they are, are promoted and others, however realistic they are, are demoted.

00:16:23.000 Let me ask you this.

00:16:24.000 So a lot of creators believe in free speech, and I believe too as well.

00:16:27.000 However, I think the current society doesn't really want to push that anyway.

00:16:31.000 What do you think about free speech? 0.99

00:16:32.000 Well, people are a bunch of sissies. 0.99

00:16:35.000 I haven't read the book The Coddling of the American Mind, but I think I understand what it's about. 0.98

00:16:39.000 People have not been brought up to just deal with words the way you should deal with them.

00:16:44.000 We were talking beforehand.

00:16:46.000 There's a certain debate that I don't like getting into just because it never goes anywhere productive, but I don't believe in shouting people down who want to criticize the state of Israel.

00:16:54.000 I don't believe in, not boycotting, in illegalizing boycotting of Israel.

00:17:00.000 Do what you want to do, say what you want to say, so long as it doesn't materialize into action.

00:17:04.000 But if it materializes into action, it's not the words that are the problem anymore, it's the action.

00:17:07.000 And I listen to people, people call me all sorts of names, and I don't give a sweet bugger all, so long as it ends with the words.

00:17:14.000 But if it goes beyond words, it's not the words that are the problem, it's the actions.

00:17:18.000 And I know people are very sensitive to words lead to action in real time, violence, yada, yada.

00:17:22.000 You've got to censor the internet. 0.99

00:17:23.000 Horse crap. 0.99

00:17:23.000 A ton of discrimination, violence. 0.99

00:17:26.000 I mean, it all happened prior to the internet.

00:17:27.000 So clearly, free speech on the internet is not the issue.

00:17:30.000 And it's not even clear that free speech is the issue. 0.99

00:17:32.000 I believe, genuinely, it's suppressing the free speech that exacerbates all the problems, as opposed to letting people say stupid, offensive things. 1.00

00:17:39.000 And if they're stupid and offensive, they will be outed and countered. 1.00

00:17:42.000 And if they're not stupid and offensive, if they offend you, you might have to deal with it nonetheless. 1.00

00:17:46.000 Yeah, that's a good point. 0.98

00:17:48.000 So, you're on YouTube, but you're also on Rumble, and you make content where you react to things from elite.

00:17:54.000 Can you give people your professional background real fast?

00:17:56.000 I look like a nutcase now, but I didn't always look like this.

00:17:58.000 If you Google me in September 2021, I ran for office in Canada, the People's Party of Canada. 0.54

00:18:04.000 I've been a lawyer. 0.92

00:18:05.000 Until I voluntarily relinquished my license because I live in Florida and didn't want to pay $3,000 a year so that random idiots on the internet can file ethics complaints against me because they don't like my tweets. 0.98

00:18:14.000 We'll get there. 0.98

00:18:15.000 I was a commercial litigator.

00:18:17.000 I started working at one of the biggest law firms in Canada.

00:18:20.000 I don't know if they want me to say it, but it's Borden, Ladner, Gervais, BLG. Biggest in terms of number of lawyers.

00:18:26.000 I did my stash there.

00:18:27.000 I was a young lawyer there.

00:18:28.000 I was on what they would refer to as We're good to go.

00:18:36.000 We're good to go.

00:18:46.000 And I had my first kid, and I said, I hate everything about this life.

00:18:50.000 I get to the office before my kid's awake, I get home when she's asleep, and I don't know if it was a mental breakdown, but one Friday afternoon, after my wife said, you know, you know what you have to do, and I quit.

00:19:01.000 And then I was ready to go back to commercial photography because I've always been into video, videography, you know, camera stuff.

00:19:07.000 Applied at a place called Dawson College.

00:19:09.000 Before I could get rejected, I was put on the waiting list.

00:19:11.000 I'm like a 35-year-old man with a kid.

00:19:14.000 And they're saying, you really want to go back to commercial photography?

00:19:16.000 You have a law degree and you've been practicing.

00:19:19.000 I started getting calls and started my own law practice in the basement of my parents' house at the time.

00:19:24.000 Or I might have been.

00:19:24.000 I forget where I was living, but that was the address at one point.

00:19:28.000 And then I just rented a small office, built up a small practice for myself in a 700-square-foot place into a good boutique, Freiheit Legal.

00:19:35.000 But I never loved it, and I never liked one day more than the day before.

00:19:39.000 And I said, if I'm doing this when I'm 50, I'll probably be dead of a heart attack and unhappy.

00:19:43.000 And so 2016, give or take, I had discovered YouTube, made a few viral videos like, oh, you can make a few hundred bucks a month, a thousand bucks a month.

00:19:51.000 I can figure out how to do this.

00:19:53.000 I started winding down the litigation practice and focusing on YouTube.

00:19:57.000 But it wasn't law-themed at all.

00:19:59.000 It was like Casey Neistat-esque.

00:20:01.000 So vlogs?

00:20:02.000 Yeah, vlogs.

00:20:03.000 And I was doing fishing, cooking, whatever, random stuff.

00:20:05.000 And then every now and again I would do a day in the life of a lawyer, prepping for a witness, prepping for a trial.

00:20:11.000 And it was like, oh, that's interesting.

00:20:12.000 Do more of that.

00:20:13.000 So I'd do more of that.

00:20:14.000 It would get consistent traffic, but 10,000, 15,000 compared to hit or miss with random stuff.

00:20:19.000 And then one day, 2018, give or take, I did a breakdown of the Alex Jones deposition.

00:20:25.000 Remember that clip?

00:20:26.000 I was going through a former psychosis back then.

00:20:28.000 That was the only clip the media played.

00:20:30.000 Yeah.

00:20:31.000 And it was about the Sandy Hook defamation or intentional infliction of emotional distress.

00:20:34.000 And I was like, oh, they're only playing that three second clip.

00:20:37.000 I go look it up.

00:20:38.000 The deposition was three and a half hours.

00:20:40.000 And so I listened to this whole thing for three and a half hours time stamping where I think the lawyer asking the questions made mistakes.

00:20:46.000 And then I did a breakdown analysis on the roof of my house at the time wearing sunglasses, cringe as hell.

00:20:52.000 And that video sort of went quasi-viral.

00:20:54.000 It got like a quarter of a million views on YouTube, which is kind of interesting for a legal analysis.

00:20:58.000 So I was like, oh, this is what I can do.

00:21:00.000 This is my ikigai.

00:21:01.000 What the world needs, what I'm good at, what I can get paid for, and...

00:21:04.000 What's the fourth one?

00:21:05.000 Provide some value and give people the truth.

00:21:06.000 That's like an overlapping force.

00:21:08.000 What you're good at, what the world needs, what you can get paid for.

00:21:11.000 Oh, and there's another one.

00:21:12.000 It doesn't matter.

00:21:12.000 And where it overlaps is your ICA guide.

00:21:14.000 I was like, I can do this.

00:21:15.000 I have a legal mind.

00:21:16.000 I have 10 plus years of training.

00:21:18.000 And so I said, okay, I'm going to dedicate it to this, niche down on that.

00:21:22.000 Then YouTube took down that video, gave me a strike for violation of terms of service for hate speech.

00:21:27.000 And then I realized, what the hell is going on?

00:21:29.000 I didn't even play any portions of the deposition where Alex Jones said anything bad.

00:21:34.000 Just so I get this straight, they took down your video and gave you a strike for hate speech for giving legal background on a deposition that is public record in a court proceeding in a civil case.

00:21:46.000 Absolutely.

00:21:47.000 Crazy.

00:21:47.000 It wasn't even like it was in the context of a case where there might have been hate speech, like a hate crime or racial slurs.

00:21:53.000 It was Alex Jones talking about his reporting on Sandy Hook.

00:21:57.000 Yeah.

00:21:58.000 And so that got taken off of YouTube and I made a big stink about it because I'm a nice guy and I don't engage in hate speech.

00:22:04.000 Yeah.

00:22:04.000 Although some people might think I engage in hate speech by saying there are only two sexes and things are mental illnesses to be treated and not encouraged, but we'll get there probably at some point.

00:22:14.000 I was like, I'm not putting up with this. 1.00

00:22:15.000 This is bullshit. 0.97

00:22:16.000 When people go to the video, because they had the link, it said remove for terms of service, and I think it said hate speech. 0.99

00:22:22.000 That irked me.

00:22:23.000 And so I appealed it and I made a stink about it.

00:22:25.000 Nothing happened.

00:22:26.000 And they said, too bad.

00:22:27.000 Live with it.

00:22:28.000 Wow.

00:22:28.000 And then about like, I think it was like two weeks or a month later, it just randomly reappears on YouTube.

00:22:32.000 Oh, wow.

00:22:33.000 And so then I really- So you lost the appeal, then it came back.

00:22:35.000 Yeah, but it came back without me even asking for it.

00:22:37.000 But I took a victory lap because it was evidence that I didn't engage in hate speech.

00:22:41.000 But what I realized is it was all just algorithmic, what they didn't want at any given point in time.

00:22:46.000 You know, tinker with it, add words, that videos get flagged, and then they can change the rules later on.

00:22:50.000 Yeah.

00:22:51.000 But worse yet, they can change the rules and then retroactively punish you.

00:22:55.000 That's the biggest problem.

00:22:55.000 That's the Tim Pool recently.

00:22:56.000 They actually took down Alex Jones' video of his when he had Rogan on.

00:23:00.000 And they were like in the RV or something like that talking.

00:23:03.000 And they took that video down like three years after the fact.

00:23:05.000 So he asked them, is it okay to put it up?

00:23:08.000 And they said yes back then.

00:23:10.000 And they said recently, it's not okay.

00:23:12.000 Take it down.

00:23:13.000 I've had a long-lasting theory about this.

00:23:15.000 Someone is suing YouTube out of Quebec for...

00:23:18.000 It's a class action for COVID censorship.

00:23:21.000 Oh, okay.

00:23:22.000 I had her on.

00:23:22.000 She's amazing.

00:23:23.000 They're suing on behalf of creators who were censored and content consumers who were censored as well.

00:23:29.000 On the basis that, you know, it's, it's, it's, I forget that.

00:23:32.000 I'll get it.

00:23:33.000 Yeah, no, no.

00:23:33.000 Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

00:23:35.000 There was a time where if you talked about the pandemic or anything else like that, they would immediately flag the video.

00:23:41.000 You'd have a Wikipedia thing underneath your video.

00:23:44.000 It would get suppressed.

00:23:45.000 And you can get a strike for COVID misinformation.

00:23:47.000 A lot of people got strikes and got their channels removed because of that.

00:23:52.000 Now, if you talk about it, you don't get strikes.

00:23:54.000 Well, not just that.

00:23:55.000 People are getting strikes and getting penalized for stuff which has now been proven to be true, contrary to what it was flagged for as misinformation at the time.

00:24:03.000 But I've always long believed that other than the argument of unjust enrichment, where YouTube says, come to the platform, you're going to bring traffic here, we're going to use you for as much as we can, then we're going to kick you off once we've gotten the traffic, the eyeballs that you brought.

00:24:16.000 I think that's a case of unjust enrichment.

00:24:18.000 The only issue is the contractual link because you're not a consumer, you're a merchant, not a consumer.

00:24:25.000 You're using YouTube as a business.

00:24:27.000 The unjust enrichment presumes sort of an absence of a contract and an absence of the enrichment for the company.

00:24:32.000 But false or deceitful business practices, where they say, your video's good, we've monetized it, you've approved it, and we've given you the go-ahead, and then later on we say, no, we're demonetizing it.

00:24:43.000 And I say, that's a deceitful business practice because you've made money off of me and then you penalize my ability to continue making money and risk my entire business after you guys have made your buck.

00:24:52.000 And I say, I don't know why in, say for example, California where they have these good, it's not so much consumer protection laws, but rather business practice laws, no one has gone with that angle.

00:25:03.000 But no, they're terrible.

00:25:07.000 They know it.

00:25:08.000 I don't even think it's about money anymore.

00:25:10.000 It's about narrative control and politics, even if it means losing money.

00:25:14.000 But for what YouTube has done, Rumble wouldn't necessarily be what it is today.

00:25:18.000 They've created the Rumble monster by virtue of their own wrongdoings.

00:25:23.000 Yeah, I mean, and then the terms and service are extremely vague and, you know, nebulous.

00:25:27.000 Like, you don't even really know, because it's like, it can, the thing is, is that it's written a certain way so that it can be enforced at any time or not be enforced at any time.

00:25:35.000 Yeah, that's called law, it's lawlessness.

00:25:36.000 What it is, it's communism.

00:25:38.000 Like, okay, when Fox News, MSNBC talks about Jeffrey Epstein, well, they're a news outlet, so they get to monetize.

00:25:44.000 I talk about it, gets demonetized.

00:25:45.000 Yeah.

00:25:46.000 It's like they're making me work for them for free.

00:25:49.000 Yeah.

00:25:50.000 It turned me into like an indentured servant.

00:25:52.000 But they're opaque by design.

00:25:56.000 It's the feature, not the bug.

00:25:58.000 And they use it to go after the disfavored channels.

00:26:01.000 Alex Jones.

00:26:02.000 And I've been, you know, touched wood.

00:26:04.000 I don't really care about YouTube.

00:26:05.000 I haven't had problems with YouTube.

00:26:08.000 I have my fights and I make stinks about them because I think they need to be brought to the...

00:26:13.000 I'm in good standing.

00:26:14.000 I had like a medical misinformation flag from an interview I did with Dr.

00:26:19.000 Francis Christian, a doctor, who's talking about the jab, and they flag that.

00:26:23.000 Really?

00:26:23.000 An unlicensed YouTube, some dude in whatever country says that's medical misinformation, what Dr.

00:26:29.000 Francis Christian said. 0.52

00:26:31.000 Crazy.

00:26:31.000 You do your YouTube re-education camp and they remove the strike now, which is a good innovation.

00:26:35.000 So you got a warning that time.

00:26:37.000 No, it was actually, they took the video down.

00:26:39.000 They say, well, it's a warning because it wasn't the first strike.

00:26:42.000 Do the re-education camp and show us that you understand the rules.

00:26:45.000 That's one good thing they did.

00:26:46.000 Well, that was, I believe, to pat myself on the back and my law partner, Robert Barnes, Viva Barnes Law, when we drafted the Rumble Terms, I said, it makes no sense you can have a warning forever.

00:26:56.000 It's not a warning, then.

00:26:57.000 It's just a one of four strikes.

00:27:00.000 So if there's no room for redemption, it's not a warning.

00:27:04.000 So I believe that they've appropriated that aspect of what we built into the Rumble Terms of Service.

00:27:09.000 Yeah.

00:27:10.000 We had a warning for three years for something, for putting a link in one time, and it's just crazy, man.

00:27:16.000 So you're saying something about class auction loss.

00:27:17.000 So tell me about that a little bit.

00:27:19.000 I have to refresh my memory, but it's a woman out of Quebec who's suing. 1.00

00:27:22.000 She got authorization to go ahead with the class action. 0.94

00:27:24.000 Wow.

00:27:25.000 This is all public.

00:27:26.000 You can find it on the internet.

00:27:27.000 Oh, yeah.

00:27:27.000 I had her on.

00:27:28.000 Elle veut savoir.

00:27:29.000 Her name is French.

00:27:30.000 It means Elle wants to know.

00:27:32.000 Oui, oui.

00:27:33.000 So it's a French channel.

00:27:35.000 It's a Canadian channel, but French.

00:27:36.000 Yes, and she's a beautiful woman who was trying to work in Hollywood and trying to work in music, and luckily, I say escaped that vortex of degeneracy. 1.00

00:27:46.000 And she's got a great channel, L-O-E-L-O-V-E-U-T, Savoir, S-A-V-O-I-R. So she sued, and she got a good judge. 0.93

00:27:55.000 I don't know where he's from, but he definitely has an Eastern European last name who might have had some experience, you know, immediate with himself or with his family of communism and censorship.

00:28:04.000 And he said, YouTube moved to have it dismissed, said, no, you can't sue because of whatever the reasons.

00:28:10.000 He says, no, she's made allegations to the effect that it could reasonably...

00:28:15.000 Lay a basis of acclaim, the class of people that she's seeking to represent, content creators who are censored wrongly, or content creators who are censored, and viewers who are deprived of listening to, to define classes, and she's able to move forward with this class action out of the province of Quebec.

00:28:30.000 Wow.

00:28:30.000 But I think it's a good sign of what's to come.

00:28:32.000 So, question.

00:28:33.000 If the judge finds in her favor and rules that they did wrongly censor her and gave her a strike or whatever it may be, will that set case law in the United States where creators that got strikes and or...

00:28:46.000 Because that strike might have been the stone that led to them being canceled or terminated.

00:28:51.000 Would that set case law where people in the United States can get their channels back?

00:28:55.000 I don't think so, because Canada and America are different when it comes to YouTube.

00:28:58.000 Well, I mean, even from one state to the next, I think they call it persuasive but not binding.

00:29:03.000 International, it's even less persuasive and even less binding.

00:29:06.000 But YouTube is an international organization, right?

00:29:08.000 Well, what it might show is I suspect other provinces have similar class action rules as Quebec.

00:29:13.000 I mean, they're basically the same throughout Canada.

00:29:15.000 So I think if this stands in Quebec, you could have potentially a national class action, like they sort of banned all of these lawsuits together.

00:29:23.000 And you're going to inspire other lawyers to take the same chance elsewhere.

00:29:27.000 I really wish I could remember the basis of...

00:29:29.000 They were saying that they were not applying any of their rules with any logical consistency.

00:29:35.000 And so, the idea being also that it's not just the creators who have the right to speak, but people who have the right to listen.

00:29:41.000 And if the judge says, if it turns out they were applying their rules wrongly or arbitrarily or capriciously, They might be entitled to nominal damages, but nominal damages of like 500 bucks a plaintiff.

00:29:51.000 Anyone who created videos on YouTube who was a resident of Quebec between 2021-2024, you're talking big numbers.

00:30:00.000 Do this elsewhere.

00:30:01.000 People need to do it.

00:30:02.000 I mean, in Canada, we're suing Pfizer and Moderna, or at least there's two people who are...

00:30:08.000 Kayla Pollack, a woman who was... 1.00

00:30:09.000 Are we allowed to talk about this now?

00:30:11.000 Yeah, yeah, sure.

00:30:11.000 Go ahead.

00:30:11.000 Who was rendered a quadriplegic by the Moderna booster after getting two Pfizer jabs, is suing Moderna.

00:30:16.000 The family of a young boy, 17 years old, dropped dead, 33 days after Pfizer, Sean Hartman.

00:30:24.000 His father is suing Pfizer.

00:30:26.000 In Canada, we didn't have the PrEP Act immunity.

00:30:29.000 We had contractual indemnification clauses.

00:30:33.000 Can you explain that real quick?

00:30:35.000 Real quick is, in theory, the immunity in the United States comes from a piece of legislation that immunizes, shields the companies from lawsuits.

00:30:44.000 That's in the PREP Act, and whether or not they were fraudulently misrepresenting their data, fraud vitiates everything, but bottom line...

00:30:51.000 All things being proper, they had legislative immunity shielding them from suit.

00:30:56.000 In Canada, I believe also, I want to say South Africa, Australia, they didn't have immunity shielding them from suit.

00:31:02.000 What they had is indemnity clauses, meaning if they get sued, then the government has to hold harmless or indemnify the pharma companies by virtue of the contract.

00:31:12.000 So they say, the government says, if you guys get sued, we will hold you harmless.

00:31:15.000 We'll indemnify you. 0.98

00:31:17.000 So whatever you order to pay, if you are, we'll pay it.

00:31:20.000 Oh, so the government steps up and deals with it.

00:31:23.000 So that's where it's much different to the extent there is no legislative immunity, but only indemnity clauses where, okay, you can sue them, and they'll say, they'll call the government in, and they'll say, government, assume my defense.

00:31:35.000 Oh! 0.60

00:31:35.000 Assume any quantum that I am ordered to pay because you agreed to indemnify me for any suit. 0.60

00:31:42.000 So the suit can happen and the damages can be ordered by the court or adjudicated by the court.

00:31:48.000 That's where the Canadian tax dollars go. 0.99

00:31:50.000 Holy shit! 0.99

00:31:51.000 This is my prediction, and if it happens, I'll be the smartest guy in the room, but maybe only in five years. 0.99

00:31:55.000 This is where you get the government to say, well, holy shit, we're not going to pay out a billion dollars for your, even if we agreed to that, we're going to go in there and find out where you lie to us about your data so that we can get out of the indemnity clause.

00:32:06.000 And say, now you guys are up Poop Creek, you lied, and we would indemnify you if you told us what you were doing at the time, and now, oh, look, we never knew, we didn't know at the time, so we're getting out of our indemnity clause because fraud vitiates everything. 0.69

00:32:19.000 What is the Canadian government's benefit of taking on that huge liability, though?

00:32:24.000 Why are they basically just suiting up and defending these pharmaceutical companies where they're opening themselves up?

00:32:32.000 What's the benefit?

00:32:32.000 Do they pay them a bunch of money?

00:32:35.000 There's probably a little bit of that.

00:32:37.000 That's a decent question.

00:32:39.000 There might be an issue about...

00:32:40.000 I wonder if you sue Pfizer, for example.

00:32:44.000 They're ordered to pay whatever.

00:32:46.000 They call the government and say, you take care of that.

00:32:48.000 Well, on the one hand, it's not the government's money.

00:32:49.000 I'm trying to think if there's a way that they could get out of it by like sovereign immunity, but I don't think there is.

00:32:54.000 If you were to ask the politicians at the time, I'm sure they would say the pharma companies asked for it and we were not in a position to negotiate.

00:33:01.000 They wouldn't have brought it to market otherwise.

00:33:03.000 So there actually was, if you, I don't know how, if anybody can pull up videos in real time, there's a guy named Anthony Housefather.

00:33:08.000 Yeah, they could pull it up.

00:33:09.000 Well, it's tough to find.

00:33:11.000 Anthony Housefather was a liberal politician who basically explained in a two-minute video that I keep posting periodically to remind the world.

00:33:18.000 Explaining how they entered into these contracts and why there's NDAs around them and why the employees of the government can't disclose the terms of the agreements above and beyond what's been publicly ordered under basically the equivalent of FOIA requests.

00:33:30.000 And he went on for a minute and a half and he said, look, we were all in a panic.

00:33:33.000 And the pharma company said, we wouldn't bring it to market unless you agreed to hold us harmless.

00:33:37.000 We were rushing through development, we were rushing through research, and we weren't prepared to bring it to market unless you gave us these terms of the contract.

00:33:44.000 And the guy said, and we needed them, and we agreed to it, and we got a vaccine to market.

00:33:49.000 Wow.

00:33:49.000 But that's a good, I mean, I have to think about that.

00:33:51.000 If there's a way, I don't think there could be a way for the government to raise sovereign immunity for a claim that it has to pay out on behalf of a corporation that it agreed to hold harmless.

00:34:00.000 But I'll book note that.

00:34:02.000 That's crazy, man.

00:34:03.000 Okay, yeah, because I was like, in my head, I'm like, What is their incentive?

00:34:05.000 That's an enormous amount of liability.

00:34:08.000 And then especially with something as new as the jab, where you only had a year to really get it out, you know that there's going to be a bunch of side effects.

00:34:16.000 Most vaccines take the better part of a decade to actually be formulated, tested, tried, proven to be safe.

00:34:23.000 And they're over here saying within a year, it's safe and effective.

00:34:25.000 No, no. 0.53

00:34:26.000 What the hell? 0.69

00:34:27.000 Impossible.

00:34:27.000 I'm convinced, well, I think we all are convinced, they knew it was neither safe nor effective when they were saying it was safe and effective, because I always say that there's two types of lies.

00:34:35.000 One is saying something that you know is false, and the other is asserting something that you have no reason to believe is true.

00:34:39.000 There you go.

00:34:40.000 And when they said safe and effective, and you got that Irish or British woman who says, Of course we didn't test for transmission. 0.95

00:34:47.000 We were moving at the speed of science.

00:34:48.000 Testing the markets.

00:34:49.000 I mean, they were saying things that they had no reason to be saying as fact while censoring people who were rightly flagged.

00:34:56.000 Let's be real here.

00:34:57.000 They were testing control to see people follow what they mandated.

00:35:01.000 Mask, stay in your home, and it worked.

00:35:04.000 It's funny.

00:35:05.000 I've probably gone on something of a big arc that anybody following me for the last five years would have seen, but in the beginning, people were saying the mask is a symbol of social compliance.

00:35:15.000 And look, at the time, you know, the same logic.

00:35:17.000 Well, a mask they wear during surgery, so it must do something.

00:35:20.000 I, at the very least, said, it can't hurt you.

00:35:22.000 Just wear a mask.

00:35:23.000 I mean, I wasn't telling anybody what else to do, and I was doing it, you know, to avoid conflict of people who are crazy to, like...

00:35:29.000 Especially in Canada.

00:35:30.000 Oh, and Quebec was even worse. 0.97

00:35:32.000 Yeah.

00:35:32.000 Woke of the woke of the woke.

00:35:34.000 But, like, I fully appreciate it has become...

00:35:37.000 I mean, I don't know if it was to that extent in the beginning.

00:35:40.000 It's become a symbol of compliance or a symbol of good citizenry.

00:35:43.000 I mean, there's a reason.

00:35:44.000 When they started using it as an avatar, that is your public display of good citizenry, compliant citizen.

00:35:49.000 I didn't know at the time that not only are they not effective, which we all suspected, but they are actually also potentially very damaging in terms of cavities, in terms of respiratory issues.

00:35:59.000 In Quebec...

00:36:00.000 My crowd is going to know this.

00:36:01.000 Sanitary issues all over the place.

00:36:02.000 You're supposed to change those disposable ones every eight hours and you've got kids keeping them in their pocket for five days.

00:36:08.000 In Quebec, I don't know if you knew this, CBC really ran a massive article on it that the government recalled tens of thousands of potentially toxic face masks because they contained microscopic parts of graphene.

00:36:21.000 And this is one of the moments which I remember at my kids' daycare, one of the daycare teachers who at the time liked me, I don't think the person likes me anymore, came up to me sobbing and saying, did you hear the news?

00:36:32.000 I was like, I didn't hear the news.

00:36:33.000 And the person says, they've recalled all these masks that they say are potentially toxic because of graphene.

00:36:38.000 We've been wearing them.

00:36:39.000 It felt like we had cat hair in our throats for months.

00:36:42.000 I was like, yeah.

00:36:43.000 And then meanwhile, this same person will now follow what the government says on other issues, which is an anomaly.

00:36:49.000 So potentially toxic masks, plastics now being found deep in the lungs, mask mouth, mask knee, cavities, and they knew at the time that they didn't do jack squat.

00:37:00.000 Dr.

00:37:00.000 Fauci, is he going to be in any case punished?

00:37:06.000 No.

00:37:06.000 Unless a Trump comes into power, and even if Trump comes into power now, he hasn't reversed course on the frickin', he's still taking credit for Operation Warp Speed.

00:37:18.000 Yeah, he is.

00:37:19.000 That's his biggest L in my opinion.

00:37:21.000 It's beyond an L. It will be very problematic to some people.

00:37:25.000 Maybe people are going to look past it, but the amount of people who know people who are injured will not look past it.

00:37:32.000 And I, at one point in my podcast, on a tweet, I laid out the...

00:37:36.000 Here's the argument.

00:37:37.000 They lied to us.

00:37:38.000 We didn't know.

00:37:39.000 Operation Warp Speed was only intended to be for those who were most vulnerable while continuing the search and permission of therapeutics.

00:37:46.000 It was never intended to be a blanket mandate for children six months and up.

00:37:50.000 They lied to me, and now I know, and let's get JFK, not JFK, RFK Jr.

00:37:55.000 on a commission to look into it.

00:37:57.000 That's his out.

00:37:58.000 But to keep saying Operation Warp Speed was a great success to try to cater to the left vote, it's crazy.

00:38:03.000 And I think with Trump, and I talked about this on a Twitter space when it comes to the whole Operation Warp Speed, I don't think, because here's the thing people got to understand, when you're the president, right, you don't know everything.

00:38:12.000 You got your cabinet, they're telling you what it is, you're getting advised by a doctor, we can do this, etc., etc.

00:38:17.000 He's obviously not a doctor.

00:38:18.000 Fauci's telling him we can do this, etc.

00:38:20.000 I think in Trump's mind, and I'd love to get your guys' take on this, in his head he was like, okay, Because if you guys remember, he was reluctant to shut the country down.

00:38:27.000 Extremely reluctant.

00:38:28.000 I'll never forget.

00:38:29.000 When this was first breaking out in November of 2019, like that's when the first, you know, signs of this Wuhan thing is starting to pop off in China.

00:38:37.000 And then next thing you know, it's February, January and they're shutting down Italy.

00:38:41.000 I remember Italy was the first major country to shut down.

00:38:44.000 And then Spain, then like clockwork, the rest of Europe shut down.

00:38:46.000 We're one of the last countries to shut down.

00:38:48.000 And Trump was very reluctant to shut down.

00:38:50.000 Because he's a businessman first.

00:38:52.000 He's like, this is going to absolutely cripple the economy and I'm literally about to leave office and I want to get re-elected.

00:38:56.000 This is terrible timing.

00:38:57.000 So in his head, he was like, okay.

00:38:59.000 Because I've noticed with Trump, he's really big on being able to say, I did this, I did that, etc.

00:39:03.000 This is what I did when I was in office.

00:39:04.000 You watch any of his interviews, he's very quick to talk about what he accomplished when he was in office, right?

00:39:08.000 And all the trials and tribulations he had to deal with while accomplishing these things.

00:39:11.000 I think Warp Speed in his head was more about getting the country back open as quickly as possible so that we can continue commerce.

00:39:20.000 That's what I think, why he, in his head, he was like, what's the fastest way to get the country back open so that we got these businesses going?

00:39:26.000 Oh, Warp Speed?

00:39:27.000 Cool.

00:39:27.000 The doctor says it's okay?

00:39:29.000 Let's fucking do it. 0.99

00:39:30.000 I want the things back open again. 0.99

00:39:31.000 So in his head, I think he takes credit for Warp Speed because being able to get the country back open quicker than other places.

00:39:37.000 Because if you look at the United States, relatively speaking, we were locked down A lot less than other developed first world countries.

00:39:43.000 I know in Canada, you guys were shut down for years.

00:39:45.000 In Quebec, we had five and a half months of curfew in 2021, where we couldn't leave our house after 8 o'clock until 6 in the morning.

00:39:51.000 At least here in America, though, some places, lockdowns were terrible, like New York and California, etc.

00:39:56.000 There were some places that were relatively open the entire time.

00:39:58.000 I remember at the height of the pandemic, Georgia was open.

00:40:01.000 Atlanta was completely open.

00:40:02.000 No mask, no nothing.

00:40:03.000 Florida was relatively open.

00:40:04.000 Miami was actually the last city to open up. 0.99

00:40:06.000 But Florida in general, Ron DeSantis didn't give a shit. 0.99

00:40:09.000 He was like, yo... 0.99

00:40:09.000 We're just going to stay open. 0.99

00:40:10.000 It is what it is.

00:40:11.000 They all did something, you know, they all had a knee-jerk panic reaction in the beginning.

00:40:15.000 The issue with Trump, I'm thoroughly convinced he was probably under the impression he would be impeached and convicted of crimes against humanity if he didn't promote lockdowns.

00:40:24.000 Now, the legal argument...

00:40:25.000 Yeah, that too.

00:40:26.000 And how could you not?

00:40:28.000 You'd have all the doctors saying, you are literally killing women and children.

00:40:31.000 He had a bunch of pressure on him to close down, because he didn't want to close down. 0.99

00:40:33.000 I remember him fighting it and shit. 0.98

00:40:34.000 No, for sure. 0.95

00:40:35.000 But the legal argument is he didn't close down anything, you know, with the exception of, I don't know, some federally regulated industries, which it was the states that chose to do it, and some states did it harder than others, and so he could wash his hands.

00:40:45.000 At the beginning, he said, you know, we better be careful.

00:40:47.000 We don't know what's going to happen.

00:40:48.000 It's going to be gone by April.

00:40:50.000 And then he reversed course.

00:40:51.000 Two more weeks.

00:40:52.000 But the Operation Warp Speed, it's a very easy thing for him to reframe in a way that is accurate and allows him to stop doubling down on promoting the...

00:41:03.000 I think?

00:41:19.000 And I think there's going to be a reckoning someday where they're going to have to blame the toxic effects of the vaccine on Trump.

00:41:25.000 And if he doesn't distance himself from this now, all of his taking credit for Operation Warp Speed and that wonderful miracle jab, they're going to say, look, you killed however many millions of people they suspect this jab actually killed.

00:41:36.000 Good point.

00:41:37.000 Good point.

00:41:38.000 Yeah, so they won't give him the credit for getting it out quickly, but they'll give him the credit when the people die.

00:41:42.000 Absolutely.

00:41:43.000 That's crazy, man.

00:41:44.000 Yeah, no.

00:41:45.000 Interesting.

00:41:46.000 So, yeah, I'm actually...

00:41:49.000 I'm going to look up this class action lawsuit and see because a lot of people lost their channels and or got strikes because of COVID, man.

00:41:56.000 And the bottom line is they're going to say the same thing.

00:41:59.000 It's a private company.

00:42:00.000 You agree to the terms and the terms are nebulous, opaque, easily weaponized.

00:42:06.000 The easiest thing is create the parallel economy.

00:42:09.000 Use them for what they're worth.

00:42:10.000 It's like...

00:42:11.000 People say YouTube exploits its content creators.

00:42:13.000 Well, its content creators can exploit YouTube as well.

00:42:16.000 First of all, you make money off of it. 0.99

00:42:17.000 You'd have to be stupid to say, I'm just going to cut off my nose to spite my face. 0.99

00:42:21.000 It's the biggest marketplace to reach new users. 1.00

00:42:25.000 Because it is a search engine.

00:42:27.000 Absolutely.

00:42:28.000 Owned by Google, the biggest search engine in the world.

00:42:29.000 I put out my Sunday afternoon talkie video where I talk about the upcoming live stream.

00:42:35.000 That's how people on YouTube are going to discover Viva on Rumble. 0.53

00:42:39.000 But the easiest thing to do, you've got to start and really support the parallel economy, both by platforms and by products, and wean yourself off of YouTube while using it for what it's good for.

00:42:52.000 I agree.

00:42:53.000 And that's really what it is, is more of a marketing thing.

00:42:55.000 But I genuinely do believe in the next five to ten years, Rumble is absolutely going to explode because I don't see censorship going backwards.

00:43:03.000 I see it only getting worse.

00:43:05.000 I don't see it becoming like, oh, you know what, we're going to change our minds and be more freedom of speech.

00:43:11.000 That's not going to happen unless Elon Musk acquires YouTube and that's not going to happen.

00:43:15.000 Well, there are some anti-monopoly lawsuits out there.

00:43:20.000 There's one looking to break up Google and YouTube.

00:43:22.000 I don't even think if it succeeds, it's going to achieve its goal.

00:43:25.000 I mean, these companies don't need to be corporately intertwined in order to know how to work with one another.

00:43:29.000 It needs an operating mastermind like an Elon Musk or a Chris Pavlovsky to take over YouTube.

00:43:36.000 It's losing its relevance to some extent a little bit, but certainly Rumble.

00:43:40.000 My only concern with Rumble is they're going to go for the legislative attempt to take down.

00:43:45.000 Yes.

00:43:47.000 And I'm concerned also, after Alex Jones is liquidated and they say, well, he can't make money anymore and he's not making enough money that we can garnish.

00:43:57.000 By way of, like, you know, satisfying the judgment, anybody monetizing his content on any other platform, we get to seize that.

00:44:03.000 Like, I'm trying to think of how they can possibly do that.

00:44:05.000 Oh, wow.

00:44:05.000 Or pass legislation to say, like, he's not...

00:44:08.000 That's a good point.

00:44:08.000 He or anybody who's been deplatformed or whatever has a judgment against them, can't raise money on other platforms so they can go after those other platforms.

00:44:15.000 It's lawfare not just against the creators, but it's overt lawfare against the platforms and, well, not Chris directly, but Rumble.

00:44:23.000 Yeah, no, and that's a good point, and they could do that.

00:44:27.000 I mean, for those that are unaware, okay, so as you guys know, the Sandy Hook school shooting occurred, what, back in 2011, 2012.

00:44:35.000 Alex Jones, you know, famously denied it, said it was crisis actors, etc.

00:44:39.000 He's come out since and apologized about it, said he made a mistake, but he got sued in the state of Connecticut for, I think, $1.5 billion?

00:44:45.000 Well, he got sued for, in Connecticut, it was like unlawful corporate practices, unlawful business practices.

00:44:52.000 Okay.

00:44:53.000 Because the idea was that he was making money off of the tragedy.

00:44:56.000 That one, they involved a law.

00:44:57.000 I forget what it is offhand, but it was like a business practice marketing advertising law.

00:45:03.000 And he was found liable.

00:45:04.000 He was found liable by default verdict.

00:45:06.000 This is what everybody has to do.

00:45:07.000 Please, can you explain that to the audience?

00:45:09.000 Okay, here.

00:45:09.000 This is going to be good.

00:45:10.000 Which camera do I look at?

00:45:10.000 I will look at a camera.

00:45:12.000 This one right here?

00:45:12.000 Yeah, that big one on the left.

00:45:13.000 Default verdict is right there.

00:45:15.000 It was a default verdict in that there was no trial on the merits.

00:45:19.000 What happens sometimes in a lawsuit, you're dealing with a really, really bad defendant.

00:45:23.000 He's a naughty man.

00:45:24.000 He tears up documents, shreds evidence, doesn't respond to emails.

00:45:27.000 Someone suing him says, look, he's frustrated my ability to pursue the claim.

00:45:30.000 He's misbehaved so much.

00:45:32.000 Court sanction him.

00:45:33.000 Sometimes they'll do contempt.

00:45:36.000 Other times they'll do striking of motions or removing of motions from the docket.

00:45:41.000 And other times they can do something called foreclose from pleading.

00:45:44.000 Which is, you've been so bad, you don't get to defend anymore.

00:45:48.000 Basically, you're gagged.

00:45:50.000 You're tied, your mouth is shut, you can't do anything.

00:45:52.000 But the plaintiffs still have to make their case.

00:45:55.000 That's the worst.

00:45:56.000 I mean, I've practiced for 13-plus years.

00:45:59.000 We had one case that, oddly enough, came from America of a defendant who misbehaved so badly, they said, you have to sit in the court, shut your mouth, you don't get to defend yourself, but the plaintiff has to make their case.

00:46:09.000 In Alex Jones, they said, you defaulted so badly on your discovery obligations, as in you didn't produce documents that he didn't have.

00:46:17.000 You didn't produce records that didn't exist.

00:46:20.000 They say, you behaved so badly, you're not only defaulted from pleading, We're finding you liable.

00:46:27.000 Period.

00:46:29.000 That's it.

00:46:29.000 Plaintiffs didn't have to prove their claim.

00:46:31.000 They didn't have to make any evidence of defamation, intentional infliction of emotional distress.

00:46:35.000 They bypassed legal questions, which were legitimate legal questions, statute of limitations.

00:46:40.000 Defamation, it's not a claim that exists forever.

00:46:44.000 I don't know what the statute is.

00:46:46.000 But if you don't file the claim within a certain amount of years of becoming aware of the statements, you don't get to.

00:46:51.000 There was that question.

00:46:53.000 There's also the question when you're talking about defamation, whether or not it was when you're dealing with a public figure, whether or not the statements were made with actual malice.

00:47:02.000 In the Jones case, the question of law becomes, are these public figures, there's a term called Single-purpose public figures.

00:47:10.000 Nicholas Sandman, you know, the Covington kid, was never a public figure until that video.

00:47:14.000 But he only becomes a public figure for the purposes of that video.

00:47:17.000 People can talk about it, say things about it, and they treat him as a public figure for the purposes of that incident.

00:47:22.000 And if someone says something wrong, defamatory, to the extent he's a public figure for that particular issue, they've got to prove actual malice.

00:47:29.000 That was a question in Sandy Hook as well.

00:47:31.000 The question was also whether or not Alex Jones sincerely believed what he said.

00:47:36.000 None of this, they didn't deal with any of these legal questions, they bypassed all of them.

00:47:40.000 And the judge in Connecticut said, you defaulted so bad that we're finding you liable as a default verdict.

00:47:48.000 So let me ask this, did they even serve him though?

00:47:52.000 Oh no, he was served, he appeared.

00:47:54.000 The proceedings were going on, but from what I recall, they were asking for things like lists of videos that you had on YouTube.

00:48:01.000 After he had been deplatformed and all the videos basically removed from his accessibility, they were asking for money that they think he made from the specific reporting on Sandy Hook. 0.95

00:48:11.000 Bear in mind also, he said stupid things, and I don't apologize for him, but I don't think it leads to this. 1.00

00:48:17.000 He said stupid things. 1.00

00:48:18.000 Over the course of 10 years, I think it's like 16 minutes of separate video clips. 1.00

00:48:23.000 In that, multiple times, he said that the incident occurred, the kids were killed, it's a horrible tragedy, but it's going to be politicized.

00:48:31.000 And he said, you know, when you talk about something being a hoax...

00:48:34.000 It's an ambiguous term.

00:48:35.000 A hoax as in it never happened, a hoax as in it did happen but it's been weaponized, or a hoax as in it's a false flag performed by an op and whatever.

00:48:42.000 There's various ways to describe it.

00:48:45.000 The bottom line, he said 16 minutes of things over a decade which they put into a montage like they did with January 6th and turned it into what you would think was his bread and butter of broadcasting for a decade.

00:48:56.000 Like they did with Joe Rogan. 0.88

00:48:59.000 So he said stupid things, but they were asking for things that didn't exist or things that he didn't have access to, but they were convinced that they existed and they were convinced that he had access to them. 0.98

00:49:06.000 And then they said, well, you're not giving it to us. 0.99

00:49:09.000 Default verdict.

00:49:10.000 It's so absurd that at worst, like imagine someone just destroys evidence to the point where they prevent the plaintiff's ability to make their case.

00:49:19.000 Yeah.

00:49:20.000 We're talking about statements made on air.

00:49:22.000 They had all of it.

00:49:23.000 What they wanted was that he made millions and tens of millions of dollars off the reporting in particular, which he didn't.

00:49:28.000 And I mean, I know this just because...

00:49:30.000 Well, yeah, if they were able to make a 16-minute compilation, by definition, that means they have the content.

00:49:35.000 Absolutely, they had the statements.

00:49:37.000 What else would they have possibly made?

00:49:39.000 But the amazing thing is, so they defaulted him in Connecticut, they defaulted him in Texas, and the trials that we saw were- Did he have two separate cases?

00:49:47.000 So he had an open case in Connecticut.

00:49:49.000 Open case in Connecticut with the Connecticut plaintiffs, then he had a case in Texas with the Texas plaintiffs.

00:49:54.000 Plaintiffs in Texas?

00:49:56.000 I don't recall offhand who the plaintiffs were, but there were people who resided for the purposes of the claim in Texas.

00:50:02.000 That were parents of the children?

00:50:04.000 I'm not fresh on that particular detail, but he had cases in Connecticut and Texas.

00:50:10.000 One was for the intentional infliction of emotional distress and the Connecticut case. 0.97

00:50:14.000 And both judges are batshit crazy.

00:50:16.000 But the trial that people saw that they think was the trial was only the trial on the quantum after liability had been found as a matter of default verdict.

00:50:25.000 So at that point, what were they actually litigating for?

00:50:28.000 Were they litigating for how much he would owe at that point?

00:50:30.000 Yes, how much they suffered by way of damages.

00:50:33.000 Compensatory, punitive.

00:50:34.000 So what we saw, because the general public doesn't know this stuff, right?

00:50:37.000 No, they think they saw a trial.

00:50:38.000 Yeah.

00:50:39.000 And it wasn't.

00:50:39.000 It was simply...

00:50:40.000 It was a kangaroo court show trial.

00:50:42.000 I mean, it was literally a show trial where Alex Jones was forbidden, precluded from asserting his innocence, stating that he apologized because he did.

00:50:50.000 He was prevented from raising any of the grounds of defense, saying that he didn't have the documents, saying that he was prevented from literally saying things on the stand.

00:50:59.000 And then the judge accuses him of saying that this is a show trial as if it could be any more of a show trial.

00:51:03.000 But what people saw was not a trial on the merits.

00:51:06.000 It was a trial only on the quantum because liability had been found as a matter of default.

00:51:09.000 So he was already guilty by the time he was sitting there.

00:51:11.000 They're just trying to establish how much money they're going to get out of him.

00:51:13.000 Absolutely.

00:51:14.000 What is that hearing called specifically if it's not a trial?

00:51:16.000 No, you call it a trial.

00:51:17.000 It's a trial on quantum.

00:51:18.000 It's still a trial.

00:51:18.000 Yeah, it's a trial on quantum.

00:51:19.000 And I went down to Texas to document it, and the questions they were asking the jury when they were selecting jury for the purposes of establishing quantum were like, you know, do you think $50 million is too much?

00:51:31.000 And so they basically...

00:51:32.000 That's what they were saying?

00:51:33.000 They were asking, like, are you okay with an obscenely insane high award?

00:51:36.000 And they picked a jury that basically said, yes, we're okay with that.

00:51:39.000 And that's how they get to $1.5 billion.

00:51:41.000 Imagine.

00:51:43.000 By the way, before I forget this thought, people watched that trial and they said, how the hell was he found liable?

00:51:48.000 What we're seeing right now...

00:51:49.000 Yeah, they're confused.

00:51:50.000 Yeah, and that was evidence on the quantum.

00:51:53.000 They didn't even have...

00:51:54.000 And people were still doubting the outcome of what they ran through by way of default verdict.

00:51:59.000 So it's like people who watched that show trial on The Quantum were convinced of his innocence in the long run, but that wasn't even the object of that trial, which is how absurd and bad the case was.

00:52:09.000 Because I did watch portions of it, and I remember him famously going back and forth with the Connecticut lawyer about this, and the lawyer tried to say, well, you gave us your phone, and it actually had everything in there, blah, blah, blah.

00:52:19.000 I remember them going back and forth on that.

00:52:20.000 Yeah, there was an incident with the lawyer who accidentally...

00:52:25.000 Was it Alex that gave his phone and everything on there?

00:52:27.000 Or was it the lawyer that gave everything?

00:52:28.000 It was Alex who gave it to the lawyer and the lawyer who accidentally transmitted it to the other party.

00:52:32.000 I'm going to get mixed up on which state it was.

00:52:34.000 Accidentally?

00:52:35.000 I know it was Connecticut.

00:52:36.000 It was Connecticut.

00:52:37.000 That was Norm Pattis.

00:52:40.000 He's a great lawyer.

00:52:41.000 I had him on the channel.

00:52:42.000 They made a mistake.

00:52:44.000 And then they got documents, text messages that they then said, oh look, he concealed this from us.

00:52:47.000 He's like, no, I gave it to my lawyers and there was a question of whether or not you're even entitled to it.

00:52:50.000 There was another issue where they accidentally communicated, Connecticut communicated to the Texas lawyers medical records by accident because they were apparently included in like these tens of thousands of documents that were digitally preserved that they transmitted.

00:53:04.000 And then they sanctioned Norm Pattis This lawyer out of Connecticut suspended his license, and that suspension was overturned.

00:53:13.000 But the people who watched that said, oh my goodness, how was he even found guilty in the first place?

00:53:17.000 And then they came out with that award.

00:53:19.000 The FBI agent, who had no kids, no family killed in Sandy Hook, who just responded, he was awarded $90 million.

00:53:29.000 Because he gets up on the sand and he's rightly traumatized.

00:53:32.000 He's rightly re-entering that level of trauma from the incident.

00:53:36.000 Because he responded to the scene.

00:53:36.000 Yeah, but he's describing the incident.

00:53:38.000 He's not describing what...

00:53:39.000 Alex Jones, first of all, that FBI agent was getting called a crisis actor or an actor before Jones even started covering it.

00:53:47.000 But you would never know that because they never had a hearing on the merits.

00:53:50.000 And so that FBI agent was already being called names, which is the only reason why Alex ever heard of the story in the first place.

00:53:57.000 It had already attained a level of internet notoriety, which is how it came to the awareness of Alex.

00:54:04.000 He didn't start it.

00:54:05.000 It had already snowballed, which is how it came to Alex's attention.

00:54:09.000 And this guy, Alex, who sees conspiracies where they exist and sometimes where they don't exist... 1.00

00:54:14.000 Was floating, you know, floating the ideas and stupid ideas. 1.00

00:54:16.000 And I don't agree with them. 1.00

00:54:18.000 I don't adhere to them.

00:54:19.000 I just understand when people see a father laughing off camera and then tearing up when he knows the camera's rolling, you know that people either maliciously or sincerely but misguidedly are going to say crisis actor because crisis actors have been used in the past to stage other events.

00:54:35.000 And so people, you know, it's called like the sort of the conspiracy trauma.

00:54:39.000 Once you understand the degree to which the government has staged things, false flags, lied to in the past, you look at something that happened and you don't even believe your own eyes anymore.

00:54:48.000 I do call it conspiracy trauma.

00:54:51.000 Just so I make sure I understand this, for the audience, too.

00:54:56.000 He was sued by the plaintiffs, the families of the slain children at Sandy Hook.

00:55:02.000 He was requested to produce certain documents and videos, etc., that they already had.

00:55:09.000 He didn't produce them, so the judge said, you violated Discovery, we're gonna go ahead and just fine you liable anyway.

00:55:15.000 Fine you liable.

00:55:16.000 They don't have to prove- Without even a court proceeding.

00:55:18.000 Without a hearing on- with no evidence.

00:55:21.000 You're liable.

00:55:21.000 Now we're gonna see how much you have to pay.

00:55:23.000 Because they claimed that he didn't produce Discovery.

00:55:26.000 He didn't respond to Discovery adequately. 1.00

00:55:27.000 It's a load of crap. 0.96

00:55:28.000 I mean, he communicated millions of documents, like millions of documents, text messages, everything. 0.99

00:55:33.000 They had everything.

00:55:35.000 There was nothing that didn't exist.

00:55:36.000 It's just that they didn't like what his response was when they had discovery, I guess.

00:55:39.000 They needed to circumvent a hearing on the merits because he would not have lost a hearing on the merits.

00:55:46.000 Period.

00:55:47.000 So they needed to find a way to bypass a hearing on the merits.

00:55:49.000 The same way the New York judge, New York nipple judge Angeron out of New York, had to bypass a jury trial in Donald Trump's case.

00:55:57.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:56:18.000 Hypothetically, I sue you. 1.00

00:56:20.000 You misbehave. 0.98

00:56:21.000 And that's it.

00:56:23.000 But my contract that I'm suing you over is 15 years old.

00:56:26.000 Well, I have to prove my case.

00:56:28.000 And if I get to court, even if you're not allowed to defend yourself, and then the judge says, let me see the contract.

00:56:32.000 All right, here it is.

00:56:33.000 Well, it's 15 years old.

00:56:34.000 You don't get to sue on this anymore.

00:56:35.000 Well, the fact that you can't defend doesn't mean that I have proven my case.

00:56:39.000 In Jones, they found him liable based on this purported...

00:56:42.000 With the plaintiffs doing nothing.

00:56:43.000 Doing nothing to succeed on the merits, and then they just come in with this show trial for Quantum, where they have one parent after another come in.

00:56:50.000 And it's a horror beyond horrors.

00:56:52.000 And you have a jury listening to this.

00:56:54.000 What do you think they're going to do?

00:56:55.000 There are people out there who think Alex Jones had a hand in the killing.

00:56:58.000 How do you defend that?

00:56:58.000 You can't.

00:56:59.000 I mean, you've got to get the Court of Appeal or the Supreme Court to get in at some point and say, due process violations and send it back for trial.

00:57:08.000 See if they'll even want to go through a trial on the merits on this.

00:57:11.000 It wasn't all of the families of the Sandy Hook victims that sued.

00:57:14.000 It was actually just a small amount at the nudging of the FBI. So...

00:57:21.000 We saw what happened.

00:57:22.000 I mean, I was...

00:57:23.000 So I was in actually a Twitter space with Alex when all of this came down.

00:57:26.000 Apparently, this...

00:57:27.000 And you made a video recording this, and we'll bring everybody up to speed.

00:57:30.000 So now we know what happened, right?

00:57:32.000 So, year passes by.

00:57:33.000 Two years pass by.

00:57:34.000 I think this was like last year when this was always going down, where he was in Connecticut, and they were showing out on Law& Order, the Law Network channel, him testifying and everything else like that, going back and forth with the lawyer. 0.98

00:57:45.000 People get their clips, whatever the fuck. 0.97

00:57:47.000 Fast forward a year or two now. 0.93

00:57:49.000 He's doing Infowars, and apparently they break into his place and try to say, shut it down, etc.

00:57:55.000 So, yeah, a little more complicated than that, and if anybody thought the first part was complicated, wait until we get into bankruptcy law.

00:58:01.000 So, I did a little bit of bankruptcy up in Canada, and once you get involved in bankruptcy, A very litigious creditor can tear open every orifice of your body looking for money, looking for wrongdoing.

00:58:14.000 So it's not even clear that getting into bankruptcy was a wise protection, but again, I know, what do I know?

00:58:20.000 And I would not give advice for second-guess lawyers.

00:58:22.000 He filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, which is reorganization, personally and through InfoWars.

00:58:28.000 That's the most common type of bankruptcy, right?

00:58:30.000 Yeah, everyone here is Chapter 11.

00:58:31.000 Your business is profitable, you know, I'm going to reorganize it.

00:58:34.000 Yeah, well you say, like, I owe...

00:58:35.000 I owe people $10 million.

00:58:37.000 I only make $2 million or whatever.

00:58:39.000 Let's just see if they'll settle for X amount of dollars over a certain amount of time so we can forgive it and move on and the business stays a going concern.

00:58:46.000 Chapter 11 is restructuring, not liquidation.

00:58:49.000 Chapter 7 is liquidation.

00:58:50.000 So Alex Jones personally and through Free Speech Systems, they filed for protection reorganization.

00:58:57.000 What is Free Speech Systems?

00:58:58.000 That's what owns Infowars.

00:58:59.000 Oh, okay, that's the holding company.

00:59:00.000 Yeah, we'll call it InfoWars.

00:59:03.000 So he files for Chapter 11, and they try to negotiate a settlement with these judgment creditors, as we call them.

00:59:09.000 They don't outrank secured creditors, so there might be some judgment creditor malpractice lawsuits against their lawyers for pissing away a multi-million dollar settlement that was on the table, from what I understand.

00:59:19.000 But so they try to say, like, we're never going to be able to pay you $1.5 billion.

00:59:23.000 I said the victims of the Armenian genocide, I believe, were asking for $3 billion by way of reparation.

00:59:29.000 So let's just contextualize the astronomically insane award in this case with the reality of the horrors and how that's been quantified in the past.

00:59:38.000 So they're trying to restructure, say, like, okay, we'll pay you, I don't know, tens of millions of dollars over 10 years and whatever.

00:59:43.000 And that goes on for a while, and then it becomes clear...

00:59:46.000 Some people don't want a settlement.

00:59:47.000 Some people want a silence.

00:59:50.000 They prefer silence.

00:59:51.000 They just want to shut Alex Jones up, shut him down.

00:59:53.000 And, as I discussed yesterday with Robert Barnes on our show, or as he elucidated, they wanted to own, basically, Alex Jones' personal rights.

01:00:02.000 His social media accounts, his literal rights.

01:00:04.000 That came out a couple days ago, yeah.

01:00:05.000 So that's what they wanted as part of the bankruptcy, to go down to the plaintiffs for the purposes of liquidation.

01:00:10.000 So personal social media accounts so that they could do whatever they want.

01:00:15.000 Tweet out different stuff for Alex Jones' account.

01:00:18.000 It became clear that at least some of the judgment creditors were not interested in a wildly insane settlement structure.

01:00:25.000 Regardless, they want them shut down.

01:00:27.000 And from what I understand, what happened is the CRO, the court restructuring officer, the guy named McGill, who's being paid $50,000 a month.

01:00:36.000 Everybody's sucking at the teeth of this lawsuit.

01:00:37.000 It's exploitation of the highest order.

01:00:39.000 Wow.

01:00:40.000 He apparently came in and said, we're shutting you down.

01:00:43.000 We're going to close it up.

01:00:44.000 It's done.

01:00:45.000 Okay, that's when they showed up.

01:00:47.000 That's what Alex was talking about.

01:00:48.000 They tried to come in here and shut it down.

01:00:50.000 That's what happened, I think, on Friday.

01:00:52.000 When he said he was sleeping in the studio Friday, Saturday.

01:00:54.000 Yes.

01:00:54.000 Then what happens on Sunday, and I don't know if this is the initiating factor that we only found out about afterwards or if it was a response.

01:01:01.000 The supplement company, which is controlled by his father, came in and filed an emergency order that said, we want to dissolve as well.

01:01:10.000 We're not going to have a settlement.

01:01:12.000 Let's just dissolve.

01:01:13.000 But secured creditors are outranked by, they outrank judgment creditors.

01:01:18.000 So this is more complicated legalese stuff.

01:01:22.000 You can lend money, and if you secure your loan through a hypothec or whatever, you're a secured creditor.

01:01:28.000 You're going to outrank everybody who's just like a supplier who is owed money here and there.

01:01:31.000 And so the secure creditor come in and say, liquidate, but I get paid first.

01:01:35.000 And so whatever's left then, the judgment creditors can get that.

01:01:38.000 And so that, I think, might have been the strategy.

01:01:40.000 I'm not sure.

01:01:41.000 But the bottom line, they went to court on Friday where the judge was determining, do they go to Chapter 7 for both free speech and for Jones?

01:01:49.000 And the judge said, no, we're going to keep Infowars running because it's a money-making industry business.

01:01:55.000 But Alex Jones, we're going to go into liquidation, sell all of his assets, and that's it.

01:01:59.000 He'll have his home.

01:02:00.000 He'll have his homestead laws in Texas are very good.

01:02:03.000 What are our homestead laws?

01:02:04.000 It's like you get to keep certain assets, certain property, your home.

01:02:08.000 Of course.

01:02:08.000 But apparently, in Texas, you could have a big home.

01:02:11.000 You could have a big ranch, and it's a home.

01:02:13.000 And so they can't seize that.

01:02:14.000 I don't know what the limits are of what they can seize or cannot seize, but the bottom line...

01:02:18.000 Historically, Texas is a farming state, so that makes sense why that would be there.

01:02:22.000 That's a good point.

01:02:22.000 It used to be a capital punishment, by the way, to steal someone's cows.

01:02:25.000 Fun fact, that's why the Texas Rangers were created.

01:02:28.000 Seriously, for cow theft.

01:02:29.000 That sounds unduly harsh.

01:02:31.000 Yeah, like that's literally why the Texas Rangers were created.

01:02:33.000 You can look it up.

01:02:34.000 It's hilarious.

01:02:35.000 But Texas has very strong protections of the home for that very reason because it's your livelihood, you know, your farming, etc.

01:02:41.000 That's how you make your money.

01:02:42.000 So that makes sense.

01:02:43.000 Florida's got decent laws as well, but Texas apparently is very robust.

01:02:46.000 Huge, yeah.

01:02:47.000 And so the judge ultimately said, okay, fine, Jones, you liquidate however many millions of dollars they get from your gun collections.

01:02:54.000 I think he had some collections that they were selling.

01:02:56.000 They'll get a few million bucks.

01:02:57.000 Boats, all that other stuff they're gonna take.

01:02:58.000 And he'll keep his home.

01:02:59.000 He'll keep his ability to make a certain amount of money that I think does not get garnished.

01:03:04.000 But what was clear from the hearing, because I was listening to it in real time, the plaintiffs are not gonna stop.

01:03:09.000 They're gonna find ways to attempt to undo each and every transaction for the last however many years and claw back everything.

01:03:16.000 They want him silenced.

01:03:19.000 Yeah.

01:03:20.000 And whether or not it's a coincidence that this all happened after Trump got elected and many people, and I suspect the Clinton war machine, blames Jones for Trump getting elected.

01:03:30.000 Yeah.

01:03:31.000 This is a revenge or a vengeance, not justice.

01:03:34.000 You know, it's interesting because I literally tweeted, I was like, this isn't about getting the money back for the victims.

01:03:39.000 This is about silencing him.

01:03:41.000 Beyond that, it's about appropriating his voice so they can do whatever the hell they want with him.

01:03:44.000 Because I look at it like, if you're actually incentivized to get your money back, why would you destroy the business that generates the income that would pay you back what you're seeking?

01:03:53.000 That doesn't make sense.

01:03:55.000 Not just that, they had a wildly, they might not like it given the amount of the award, but they had a wildly, what's the word, favorable, generous settlement offer from what I understand.

01:04:06.000 It's public, but A lot.

01:04:08.000 Structured over years.

01:04:10.000 And from what I understand and from what I heard during the court proceedings, or at least as far as I understood it, there seems to be friction between the Connecticut plaintiffs and the Texas plaintiffs.

01:04:18.000 Because I don't know who gets paid first between the state of Texas and Connecticut.

01:04:21.000 But some are saying, you know, we wanted that settlement from what I understand.

01:04:25.000 And others are saying, we don't want it.

01:04:26.000 And now what's going to happen is they're not going to get it.

01:04:29.000 Like, they're not going to get the amount that was on the table.

01:04:31.000 And I am predicting that there's going to be malpractice lawsuits or lawsuits from some of the plaintiffs against their lawyers for allowing their lawyers to exact their own politics in this as opposed to representing the best interests of their clients.

01:04:45.000 Interesting.

01:04:45.000 So we'll see.

01:04:45.000 That's the big prediction.

01:04:47.000 We'll see if that happens.

01:04:47.000 What a nightmare, man.

01:04:48.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:04:48.000 They've turned Alex Jones into a martyr where... 1.00

01:04:52.000 This is not...

01:04:53.000 I mean, Robert Barnes, he always says this, and he knows Alex much better than I do.

01:04:58.000 He's like, Jones was ready to retire.

01:04:59.000 And he'd probably be off the air by his own will right now.

01:05:03.000 But now they've turned him into a martyr, and they've turned him into a living...

01:05:06.000 Was he really actually thinking about retiring?

01:05:08.000 I don't know.

01:05:08.000 I don't think he...

01:05:09.000 I don't know him.

01:05:10.000 I've never met him in person.

01:05:12.000 But I've had him on the show.

01:05:13.000 I've been on his.

01:05:14.000 But he might have just retired naturally by now.

01:05:17.000 But they've turned him into a martyr and they've turned him into a symbol of political warfare. 1.00

01:05:21.000 Yeah, because he was yelling, you're saying, I'm going to fight this shit. 0.99

01:05:23.000 He's like, yeah, you guys are not going to stop me. 1.00

01:05:26.000 He'll do it for free.

01:05:26.000 He'll do it for free or he'll do it in minimal amounts and his voice will be more amplified than ever.

01:05:31.000 And so they don't understand.

01:05:33.000 The Trump lawsuits, the Trump indictments, they don't understand everything they're doing highlights their corruption and amplifies the voice of the person they're trying to suppress.

01:05:41.000 Yeah.

01:05:42.000 Did Trump getting convicted, of all 34 counts, what, he raised $7 million?

01:05:46.000 $70.

01:05:47.000 $70 million.

01:05:48.000 In two days.

01:05:49.000 If you believe the numbers, people don't want to believe the numbers, but yeah.

01:05:52.000 Yeah.

01:05:53.000 I mean, hell, okay, let's say $30 million.

01:05:55.000 Let's say half.

01:05:56.000 $35.

01:05:56.000 It doesn't matter.

01:05:57.000 That's an insane amount of money.

01:05:58.000 And he also converted the black vote quite easily, just like that.

01:06:01.000 Yep.

01:06:01.000 I see it.

01:06:02.000 I predicted this last year, and not because of the indictments.

01:06:06.000 It might be superficial to say, well, he's gotten charged, and so now he's going to get the black vote.

01:06:11.000 I kind of find that not trivializing what's happening, but what's clear is he's getting the minority vote in a way that he's not gotten before.

01:06:21.000 I read a poll today that said he's up to 21% of the black vote, which I predicted last year, but he's quite clearly exposing...

01:06:28.000 The corruption of the system and people can empathize with him now, anybody who's ever gone through this, because he's not the first person that this has been done to.

01:06:35.000 This has been done to lots of people.

01:06:37.000 Yeah.

01:06:37.000 They just humanized Donald Trump is what they basically did for the general public.

01:06:42.000 From your, I want to say, expertise, do you think the American system of law is, I want to say, flawed?

01:06:48.000 Well, okay.

01:06:49.000 I won't say from my expertise.

01:06:51.000 I'll say from my experience. 0.99

01:06:54.000 It's fucked up beyond anything I could have ever imagined. 0.99

01:06:58.000 And the question that I grapple with is, is it worse than Canada? 1.00

01:07:01.000 I'm not sure that it's worse than Canada.

01:07:03.000 It might be, but it's certainly bigger and it's certainly badder.

01:07:06.000 The stuff that I've seen happen now is...

01:07:09.000 Circus Town.

01:07:10.000 It's...

01:07:11.000 I mean, people make fun of Putin and they call him an autocrat and a tyrant.

01:07:15.000 This is stuff like...

01:07:16.000 We don't jail our opponents here.

01:07:19.000 Yeah, you do.

01:07:20.000 You're trying to do it right now.

01:07:21.000 Oh, at least we don't poison them like they do in Russia. 1.00

01:07:23.000 And I'm not even sure that...

01:07:25.000 Putin poisoned Navalny.

01:07:26.000 I got my theories about that.

01:07:27.000 But it's broken beyond what I ever could have imagined.

01:07:32.000 And it's been exposed for the world to see.

01:07:34.000 It's atrocious.

01:07:36.000 But it's a system that's been broken this way forever.

01:07:38.000 And it's just that the people who've been the victim of it, sitting in jail wrongly convicted for 25 years, were poor, disfavored, didn't have the bullhorn, and nobody saw it, nobody cared, and those who did said, well, they must have done something to deserve it.

01:07:49.000 And now they understand what's been done to Donald Trump has been done to Hundreds of thousands of other Americans.

01:07:55.000 And those are the people who are going to relate to Trump.

01:07:59.000 Yeah, the Great Awakening, as Alex Jones' book is.

01:08:02.000 So much stuff going on right now.

01:08:03.000 It's wild.

01:08:04.000 Alright, so I can read some of these chats.

01:08:05.000 Speaking of awakening, we have a yacht party.

01:08:08.000 In July, man, if you want to stay woke, have fun at the party, and actually enjoy people of success and of greater bounds, creators, type into the actual yacht party.

01:08:17.000 Tickets are up right now for sale.

01:08:19.000 I'll link down below.

01:08:20.000 CastleCobb.tv.

01:08:20.000 And we'll be actually doing a...

01:08:23.000 We're going to the event in Vegas on 28th.

01:08:26.000 Yeah, so it won't be June 28th, guys.

01:08:27.000 It's going to be July 12th or 13th is when we're going to do the app party.

01:08:30.000 Friday or Saturday, one of those two days.

01:08:32.000 So, yeah.

01:08:33.000 Okay, so we got Sneeko here.

01:08:35.000 WStream, appreciate that.

01:08:36.000 Sneeko, I think you got new teeth.

01:08:38.000 Yo, come by tonight, by the way, for after hours.

01:08:40.000 He got new teeth?

01:08:41.000 Yeah, he went to the dentist today.

01:08:43.000 Wait, there's nothing worse than cracking a tooth. 0.98

01:08:45.000 Yeah, it sucks. 0.97

01:08:46.000 Wait. 1.00

01:08:47.000 It's the worst.

01:08:47.000 It was that fast?

01:08:48.000 Yeah, he went to the dentist the next day, bro.

01:08:49.000 It's 20-24, man.

01:08:50.000 Okay.

01:08:51.000 And he streamed it, too.

01:08:52.000 Hilarious.

01:08:52.000 He got veneers?

01:08:54.000 I don't know if he got veneers.

01:08:54.000 I think he just fixed the chip tooth.

01:08:56.000 Oh.

01:08:57.000 Hey, Myron, thanks for all you've done.

01:08:58.000 Do you have any advice to help not give a F what haters say about me during my personal IGN to an online fitness coaching page?

01:09:04.000 Bro, you just don't care.

01:09:05.000 You got to just move on.

01:09:07.000 You guys see, if people are talking about you, that means you're relevant.

01:09:11.000 Myron, you should 10x the CC fee for the haters that can't get a clue.

01:09:14.000 Might as well get something useful out of them.

01:09:15.000 Nah, man.

01:09:16.000 Like I said, we...

01:09:17.000 It is what it is, man.

01:09:18.000 People are going to say and do whatever they want to do.

01:09:20.000 To young Cliff, I would also take it from the other way. 0.94

01:09:24.000 Imagine how miserable that person's life is who's shitting on you on the internet to be sitting there shitting on someone on the internet and empathize with how miserable their lives must be in order to get over it and also maybe even feel bad for the person. 0.88

01:09:38.000 The best revenge for haters is to live a good life. 1.00

01:09:43.000 Honestly, I don't even know that these idiots make videos on us unless you guys bring it to our attention. 1.00

01:09:48.000 I don't even know most of the time. 1.00

01:09:49.000 Nope.

01:09:50.000 I'll never forget, we were in, I think it was Vegas, our power slap.

01:09:54.000 We're heading from Vegas to go to Romania.

01:09:59.000 We were talking to Andrew, and I asked Andrew, how do you do with haters, bro?

01:10:02.000 He's like, I don't want to see videos.

01:10:05.000 People are talking about me.

01:10:05.000 I don't want to say anything.

01:10:07.000 Don't send it to me.

01:10:08.000 And I was like, it's kind of weird.

01:10:10.000 But I thought about it.

01:10:11.000 Hold on. 0.99

01:10:11.000 That's smart because he doesn't want to see any bullshit. 0.99

01:10:14.000 And I'm like, you live a good life. 0.99

01:10:15.000 Now I understand why.

01:10:16.000 So it makes sense. 0.99

01:10:17.000 You don't want to see bullshit. 0.99

01:10:18.000 I don't even know. 1.00

01:10:18.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:10:19.000 So guys, stop sending me videos of our ops sending me talking shit about us. 0.90

01:10:22.000 Like, I don't want to see it, man. 0.97

01:10:23.000 The goal is to distract you and make you less effective at what you're doing.

01:10:27.000 It pisses you off and it's whatever.

01:10:29.000 Because we're all human, right?

01:10:29.000 So when people sit there and criticize you and try to say you're a scammer or a liar, when you've done everything in your power to be as transparent and as honest with the people as possible.

01:10:38.000 I mean, hell, I talk about my real estate.

01:10:39.000 I've been doxxed on the real estate that I have just because I share how much money I make, how I do my deals, etc.

01:10:44.000 And it's like... 0.98

01:10:45.000 Come back to bite me and I'm like, okay, so I'm honest and these idiots want to use that against me and say, oh, I'm pocket watch and stuff. 0.99

01:10:51.000 And it's like, I'm just trying to help people to teach you guys how to invest in real estate. 0.99

01:10:53.000 All my people I've met over the years, bro, if you don't have a better life than me, you can say whatever.

01:10:59.000 I don't care.

01:11:00.000 Because at least, like, I know my life is good.

01:11:02.000 Is your life good?

01:11:03.000 Probably not.

01:11:04.000 So that's what haters are for, man.

01:11:06.000 Reflection.

01:11:07.000 So, it is what it is, man.

01:11:08.000 Don't worry about haters, bro. 1.00

01:11:09.000 They're always going to talk shit. 1.00

01:11:10.000 Just ignore them. 0.99

01:11:12.000 Thank you guys for everything.

01:11:14.000 You all changed the trajectory of my life.

01:11:15.000 Used to watch the sodomite and his pet Tasmanian devil.

01:11:18.000 Never been back since WCC. What?

01:11:21.000 Who is he talking about there?

01:11:22.000 Actually, it's funny.

01:11:24.000 They're Quebec, actually.

01:11:25.000 They're Quebec.

01:11:26.000 Two creators.

01:11:27.000 I presume he means a homosexual. 0.98

01:11:33.000 Every specific stream has their own lingo or chat. 0.98

01:11:37.000 Who's the Tasmanian devil?

01:11:39.000 Don't worry about it. 1.00

01:11:40.000 Two losers. 0.99

01:11:41.000 I've never been in court before. 0.98

01:11:42.000 I'm going as a plaintiff against my ex for larceny.

01:11:45.000 I'm currently waiting for a court date to come in the mail.

01:11:47.000 I have proof of her admitting to her.

01:11:48.000 Actually, any advice, anything I need to know, like what to expect, and do I need a lawyer or not?

01:11:52.000 Well, if you're the plaintiff, I hope you got a lawyer, bro.

01:11:55.000 Like, are you suing her civilly or is this a criminal case?

01:11:58.000 Larcity is a criminal act.

01:12:00.000 I'm currently waiting for a court date to come in the mail.

01:12:04.000 Don't give legal advice on the internet.

01:12:06.000 Hashtag not legal advice.

01:12:08.000 Call your lawyer, bro.

01:12:09.000 Do get a lawyer, Cam.

01:12:11.000 Cam, get a lawyer, because I don't even know if this is a criminal or a civil case here.

01:12:14.000 Who else we got here?

01:12:17.000 WCanadianFabio, can he talk about the truck drivers during the jab?

01:12:20.000 Oh yeah, that was fun.

01:12:21.000 Sure, we will talk about that.

01:12:23.000 What else we got?

01:12:24.000 WRWFresh, shout out to Jocasta, live conversation on X last night. 0.99

01:12:27.000 Holy shit, it was crazy. 1.00

01:12:28.000 Fucking WTommy. 0.99

01:12:30.000 I've always had respect for Tommy and more during his recent pod with you guys, and even way more after that conversation. 0.99

01:12:34.000 He's brilliant, deadass.

01:12:34.000 Yeah, I'm from Jersey.

01:12:35.000 Okay, shout out to you, Vilexia. 1.00

01:12:36.000 Viva, please tell this Fed and Vinny about Garrett Ziegler.

01:12:39.000 I think more people need to interview him and Myron would be great at it.

01:12:42.000 Who's the Fed?

01:12:44.000 Myron.

01:12:45.000 Because I used to work in law enforcement.

01:12:46.000 So I don't know who Garrett Ziegler is.

01:12:48.000 Garrett Ziegler wrote the book called, he's an owner of Marco Polo 501c3.

01:12:53.000 He wrote the memo, the report on the Hunter Biden laptop story.

01:12:58.000 Oh crap, I could have brought one down.

01:12:59.000 Next time I'll see you, I'll bring him. 0.97

01:13:01.000 He made the memo detailing every aspect of the Hunter Biden laptop.

01:13:06.000 Cross-referencing bank accounts, dates of travel.

01:13:09.000 It's the most thorough forensic analysis of the laptop ever with all of the evidence out there.

01:13:14.000 And he's an amazing lead.

01:13:16.000 He's almost like a...

01:13:17.000 He's not a Forrest Gump type.

01:13:19.000 Is he on YouTube or where's he at?

01:13:20.000 He's on Twitter. 1.00

01:13:22.000 He's just an idiot savant when it comes to the Hunter Biden laptop. 1.00

01:13:25.000 Make for an amazing interview. 1.00

01:13:27.000 Speaking of which, Hunter Biden recently just got convicted guilty of all counts on his federal guns trial.

01:13:32.000 So, yeah, that was pretty open. 0.99

01:13:35.000 I knew he was going to lose that shit open and shut. 1.00

01:13:36.000 That nigga living life, bro. 1.00

01:13:37.000 Like, bro, you're not going to win that. 1.00

01:13:39.000 Like, you're a drug user and you have a gun. 1.00

01:13:41.000 Done, bro. 0.96

01:13:41.000 Like, that's 18 USC 922 all day. 0.96

01:13:44.000 What else we got here? 0.98

01:13:46.000 Damn, I did used to feel that cotton hairball on my throat. 0.98

01:13:49.000 Okay, that's from Alex the Great. 0.98

01:13:50.000 And then, David, thank you for being a good human and a good lawyer.

01:13:53.000 We need more people that can fix this crooked legal system. 0.98

01:13:55.000 We need more good men to focus on this never-ending battle while getting paid very well.

01:13:59.000 We are only a few generations away from losing all our free speech.

01:14:02.000 It's scary, the thought.

01:14:03.000 It's a scary thought.

01:14:04.000 Myron, thank you for opening all of our eyes to the truth.

01:14:06.000 I'm ready to buy the new merch.

01:14:07.000 Thank you, FNF. Yes, new merch is going to be coming out soon.

01:14:10.000 Don't worry, guys.

01:14:10.000 And that's from Carnell's.

01:14:12.000 Anything else?

01:14:13.000 We're also way closer than several generations away from a total loss of freedom.

01:14:17.000 We're like five to seven years.

01:14:19.000 Yeah, literally.

01:14:20.000 You think we're close?

01:14:22.000 The public sentiment has to be a massive blowback to say free speech is cool again and censorship is not cool and if it hurts my feelings, grow the F up and deal with it.

01:14:34.000 We're not yet there, but I think we're getting there in the States.

01:14:37.000 How do you think we stop censorship?

01:14:39.000 How do we go about it?

01:14:41.000 I say legally, censorship, how do you stop censorship?

01:14:45.000 It's a tough question, I know.

01:14:46.000 It sounds simple, but when you actually think about it, like, wait, hold on.

01:14:48.000 No, because you have to have companies that are willing to be bold and deal with the hate.

01:14:54.000 It's the advertisers that control it.

01:14:56.000 I don't know.

01:14:58.000 You have to have a shift in the zeitgeist.

01:15:00.000 Up in Canada, you have hate speech laws.

01:15:03.000 You have gender identity and gender expression as aggravating factors for hate crimes.

01:15:08.000 And then you have companies that have to abide by those policies of misgendering.

01:15:12.000 So I don't know, but it has to be...

01:15:14.000 Grassroots, bottom-up, and then top-down, and somehow they'll meet in the middle and make the change.

01:15:18.000 But I think we're getting there.

01:15:20.000 It's odd.

01:15:21.000 It only occurs to people when they are the ones getting censored. 0.99

01:15:24.000 When it's their political adversaries, it's all fun and games, and it's the rules of the game, and then it bites them in the ass, and I'm like, oh, that's not fair. 0.99

01:15:30.000 So it's got to get everybody personally before they get personally invested. 0.98

01:15:33.000 Yeah.

01:15:34.000 I just find it interesting how when Elon Musk took over Twitter, he even said that conservative voices were being restricted 10 times more than the left.

01:15:44.000 And he wanted to create a platform for free speech.

01:15:46.000 And I applaud him for that because X now is a lot better than it was.

01:15:49.000 I'm very active on X now, whereas a couple years ago I wasn't because you would literally get banned for anything on X. It was really annoying.

01:15:56.000 And then you've got platforms like Rumble.

01:15:58.000 And it's interesting, too, that when I look at Rumble, every big conservative creator is on Rumble, every single one.

01:16:04.000 And there's even some liberals on there as well.

01:16:08.000 I just think in the next, again, I think in the next five to ten years as...

01:16:12.000 Because I think censorship is only going to get worse.

01:16:14.000 I think it's honestly just going to get worse.

01:16:16.000 And the enforcement.

01:16:17.000 The enforcement is going to get much more effective.

01:16:19.000 When everything goes digital, it's going to be much easier to...

01:16:24.000 Shut you down.

01:16:25.000 I mean, in Canada, you know, segwaying into the trucker convoy a little bit.

01:16:28.000 Yeah, please go ahead.

01:16:29.000 You know, when they froze bank accounts in the absence of any conviction, in the absence of any court order, when they deplatformed people, I mean, they did in the States a little bit as well, but...

01:16:40.000 It's the digital control is going to ensure full compliance, and so you need to have sort of a digital charter of rights, which we don't seem to have yet.

01:16:47.000 I think the number one thing, banking should be deemed to be a utility that cannot be denied from somebody.

01:16:53.000 The ultimate...

01:16:55.000 The insanity of this is you have serial killers in Canada.

01:16:59.000 Paul Bernardo, who was in jail, they could have bank accounts.

01:17:01.000 But a trucker or a protester has their bank account frozen.

01:17:05.000 Jeremy McKenzie, leader of Diagon, a meme internet world, gets deplatformed and can't open up a bank account.

01:17:12.000 I mean, you know, interesting.

01:17:14.000 You look at someone like Russell Brand, right?

01:17:17.000 They demonetized him on YouTube and they ran his name through the mud with zero evidence.

01:17:22.000 Some girl comes up and says, I was assaulting, blah, blah, blah. 0.91

01:17:24.000 No police reports have ever been filed.

01:17:26.000 No criminal investigation has been done.

01:17:28.000 Nothing.

01:17:28.000 But he gets demonetized on YouTube and gets his name ran through.

01:17:31.000 Meanwhile, we see footage of Diddy beating up Cassidy in a hotel.

01:17:34.000 And his music videos are all still monetized and he's still chilling on YouTube.

01:17:37.000 He's still on Instagram.

01:17:38.000 He's not canceled anywhere.

01:17:39.000 It's just incredible to me how there is selective punishments depending on who you are and what you talk about.

01:17:45.000 And then if you look into it, you know, what did Russell Brand do prior to being these allegations coming at him?

01:17:50.000 Well, he exposed the entire... 0.98

01:17:53.000 A pharmaceutical cabal of them making a bunch of fucking money on the jabs. 0.99

01:17:59.000 He turned on Hillary. 1.00

01:18:00.000 I mean, I remember the video where he was talking about stuff about Hillary that sort of others who were ahead of the curve knew already.

01:18:06.000 Worse, though, than just demonetizing Russell on YouTube, they then went after Rumble.

01:18:11.000 And they said, are you allowing this guy to monetize on your channel because of out-of-court statements that have nothing to do with the content?

01:18:18.000 It's selective prosecution of sorts, applied mutatis mutatis, but it's lawlessness.

01:18:23.000 This is how communism works.

01:18:25.000 They go after their ideological adversaries because they can interpret the rules that way.

01:18:30.000 The congressional subpoenas. 0.98

01:18:32.000 Steve Bannon, convicted for contempt of Congress for not respecting that bullshit Jan 6 subpoena. 0.98

01:18:39.000 Peter Navarro, charged convicted. 0.93

01:18:42.000 Merrick Garland refuses to abide by a subpoena, gets found in contempt, and then the assistant attorney general says, yeah, well, we're not going to press charges because, you know, we don't have to supply this.

01:18:54.000 You didn't have a legislative need for the documents.

01:18:57.000 It's...

01:18:58.000 It's just, there's no other word for it.

01:19:00.000 I feel it's a cliche, communism.

01:19:02.000 It is weaponizing the law to go after your political adversaries, your ideological adversaries, your corporate adversaries.

01:19:08.000 And it's working surprisingly well, but hopefully, you know, everyone's getting fed up.

01:19:12.000 If they don't get you that way, they lobby to silence you.

01:19:14.000 Like, what I've noticed, you know, and Chris talked about this on A Space one time.

01:19:18.000 Different governments do different approaches, right?

01:19:20.000 So in some places where free speech is not a thing, they just turn you off outright, right?

01:19:24.000 They're just like, whatever, it is what it is, we're going to just silence you, right?

01:19:27.000 But in America, what they do is they have these companies like the ADL and Media Matters or whatever, and they just write a hit piece on you.

01:19:33.000 And they say, did you know that XYZ platform allowed this individual to say this comment about these people and promoting hate speech and they're monetizing on that platform?

01:19:42.000 And these platforms get terrified because that looks bad for advertisers.

01:19:44.000 And what do they do?

01:19:45.000 They either cancel you, they demonetize you, whatever it may be.

01:19:48.000 So that's how they get around the free speech thing in the United States, whereas in other places, they just shut you down.

01:19:51.000 No, no, and the ADL does the dirtiest of the dirtiest.

01:19:55.000 No, this was Media Matters that did this, where they basically fabricate the results.

01:20:00.000 They write hit pieces on Rumble every day.

01:20:02.000 Yeah, write the hit pieces, get the advertisers to pull their money, and then you wonder, like...

01:20:07.000 I say the ADL. The ADL is the Anti-Defamation League.

01:20:10.000 They've done more to generate conspiracy theories and propagate negative stereotypes despite what they purport to want to fight.

01:20:18.000 The fastest way to convince someone that they're right is tell them they can't say it.

01:20:23.000 But it's going to offend specific classes of people.

01:20:26.000 You can't misgender.

01:20:27.000 You can't use Christ is King.

01:20:31.000 That is the fastest way to confirm in the minds of those people who would say those things that they're right in their beliefs and they're right for saying it.

01:20:41.000 Can you imagine?

01:20:42.000 First of all, I'm going to believe that an advertiser is not going to want to advertise where the eyeballs are.

01:20:47.000 I'm not talking about a decapitation video, which was the first adpocalypse on YouTube.

01:20:53.000 Controversy? 1.00

01:20:53.000 Bullshit. 1.00

01:20:54.000 You have paid product advertisement in Pulp Fiction, in horror movies. 1.00

01:20:58.000 Don't give me this crap that they don't want to advertise next to controversial characters on the internet. 0.99

01:21:03.000 Bullcrap. 1.00

01:21:03.000 They want where the eyeballs are, except when it comes to politics where they need to control the narrative. 1.00

01:21:08.000 And it's about control.

01:21:09.000 It's not even about money anymore.

01:21:10.000 That's the most dangerous thing.

01:21:12.000 It's not about money.

01:21:13.000 Because they will go ahead and demonetize a huge channel or cancel a huge channel because it doesn't align with a certain narrative.

01:21:19.000 And they got enough money to do it.

01:21:20.000 When you're a monopoly, like we were discussing before, it doesn't matter.

01:21:23.000 So I think it's just about moving intelligently and understanding what you can say on certain platforms, what you can.

01:21:28.000 And this is why I love Rumble so much because we don't have to worry about any of that crap with Rumble.

01:21:33.000 It's the closest to free speech that you're going to get.

01:21:35.000 And Elon and Rumble, I think, if I'm not mistaken, have a lawsuit against Media Matters and ABL. Yeah, they're both...

01:21:41.000 Yeah, they're both doing them.

01:21:43.000 I forget which one... 1.00

01:21:44.000 Media Matters has to downsize significantly, too, so fuck them. 1.00

01:21:48.000 Oh, they're the ones who just announced a bunch of layoffs. 1.00

01:21:50.000 Yes, Media Matters.

01:21:51.000 Media Matters was the one that ran the...

01:21:53.000 They basically falsified the results, or at least inorganically generated results to make it look like it's a widespread problem to get people to pull advertising dollars from Twitter, and they're going to trial soon.

01:22:04.000 They deserve to be bankrupted, and they deserve to be held personally liable for tortious interference with contracts.

01:22:09.000 That's exactly what they're doing.

01:22:10.000 It's like the Oberlin case where you're basically calling someone wrongly a racist just because you can get away with it, interfering with their business, trying to get them shut down, and then they get caught, and then they complain. 0.97

01:22:21.000 No, this is Elon weaponizing his big machine against us, small little 501c3 horse crap. 0.86

01:22:27.000 They know what they're doing when they do it, and they deserve to get... 0.98

01:22:29.000 Not only that, they go the next level.

01:22:32.000 What they purposely did was they went on Twitter and they took accounts that were Nazi accounts allegedly to them.

01:22:38.000 And what they did was they would look at the thing and look at what advertisements would show up.

01:22:42.000 Then they would refresh the tweet and see what other advertisers came in and they just went ahead and did that multiple times.

01:22:48.000 And they contacted all those advertisers.

01:22:50.000 Are you aware of the fact that your advertisement appears next to this Nazi propaganda?

01:22:55.000 I think it was even more insidious than that.

01:22:57.000 They took newly created or fresh accounts that I think didn't have certain restrictions on them, or ad restrictions, or they just followed these wildly offensive accounts and big brand accounts.

01:23:09.000 And you do that and then just refresh, refresh, so that you artificially, because nobody acts like that on Twitter.

01:23:14.000 Yeah.

01:23:15.000 Yeah.

01:23:15.000 And so they follow some Nazi account and then follow big brand.

01:23:19.000 And then one day it pops up and they screen grab it and say, look, this is a big problem.

01:23:22.000 Yeah.

01:23:22.000 It's nothing shy of tortious interference.

01:23:24.000 And it's wild.

01:23:25.000 Like when Elon bought Twitter, it was all out warfare in all respects.

01:23:29.000 You know, the Delaware lawsuit where they deny him his bonus.

01:23:34.000 We're good to go.

01:23:53.000 We're not gonna cave to this vocal minority group of tyrants that's trying to control what everyone can hear, see, and consume. 1.00

01:24:02.000 But they don't have that courage yet.

01:24:03.000 You know, it's crazy to me because it's like, did they not learn from Gillette when they did that whole toxic masculinity push back in 2019, 2020?

01:24:11.000 Did they not learn from Budweiser's mistakes of bringing Dylan Mulvaney in to try to push it and ostracize their entire customer base?

01:24:20.000 I don't get what... 0.93

01:24:21.000 Like, are advertisers not waking up and realizing that Americans are sick and fucking tired of being censored, being told to be politically correct, etc.? 0.95

01:24:28.000 Like, people don't want to sit there and be told what they can and can't say all the time.

01:24:33.000 Like, advertisers need to wake up, grow a set of nuts, and realize, hey... 0.98

01:24:37.000 It doesn't matter where the fuck you put your ads at if the content creator is generating views. 0.99

01:24:42.000 You're gonna go ahead and be able to make some money off of that. 0.97

01:24:44.000 But they're sitting here saying, oh, we don't wanna...

01:24:47.000 Because if you look at it, who are they targeting most of the time saying that they're bigots and offensive and all this other stuff?

01:24:51.000 It's most of the time conservative creators.

01:24:54.000 But they've been exploding in popularity the past five to 10 years.

01:24:57.000 Since Trump took office in 2016, I've seen an explosion in people going more and more conservative.

01:25:02.000 And it's not necessarily that they're going more and more conservative.

01:25:04.000 I think it's that the left continues to go more left.

01:25:07.000 The Overton window has shifted.

01:25:09.000 Tim Pool used to be considered a liberal.

01:25:13.000 Let that sink in, guys.

01:25:15.000 I think anybody who speaks, by definition, you become ultra, far-right, MAGA, Republican, if you say you can't chemically castrate children.

01:25:23.000 They can't consent, period.

01:25:24.000 Now you're a bigot.

01:25:25.000 The amazing thing is, it had to do with Dylan Mulvaney.

01:25:30.000 Oh gosh, I forgot my thought.

01:25:32.000 It'll come back in a second.

01:25:33.000 No worries.

01:25:34.000 But no, it's...

01:25:35.000 Oh, hold on one second.

01:25:37.000 It's going to drive me crazy.

01:25:38.000 With Dylan Mulvaney...

01:25:40.000 Oh, no.

01:25:41.000 Pulling sponsors? 0.53

01:25:42.000 No, but they themselves partner with some of the most scandalous perverts on Earth and then just want to wash their hands when they do it. 0.98

01:25:50.000 But the second anybody says something remotely controversial, they then pretend that they're ideologically aligned with the people who they advertise. 0.95

01:25:57.000 I mean, it's such a stupid idea to say that I am somehow morally and contractually obligated to adhere to the ideology of someone I'm advertising with.

01:26:06.000 You're not talking about a brand sponsorship where, like, the spokesperson becomes the face of the company. 0.98

01:26:11.000 You're talking about a passive ad on a chain. 0.94

01:26:16.000 We'll get there, but the problem is we might have reached something of a critical mass where when Bud Light went stupid with Dylan Mulvaney, even if it was an insignificant... 1.00

01:26:25.000 What a stupid decision. 1.00

01:26:26.000 Stupid. 1.00

01:26:27.000 And then people were like, well, and I was part of it. 1.00

01:26:29.000 I was like, I'm not going to buy Bud Light.

01:26:30.000 I'm going to buy Stella Artois. 0.99

01:26:31.000 And then someone was like, congratulations, jackass. 0.98

01:26:33.000 It's owned by the same company. 0.99

01:26:34.000 I was like...

01:26:35.000 It's gotten so big.

01:26:36.000 Monopolies.

01:26:36.000 I mean, basically, monopolies where you have the inability to effectively boycott if there's certain products that you want to consume.

01:26:44.000 And so it goes back to the parallel economy.

01:26:46.000 You've got to really sort of do a due diligence on your companies.

01:26:50.000 Public Square is a company publicly traded.

01:26:52.000 They've partnered with Rumble.

01:26:53.000 They're amazing.

01:26:54.000 Create just a place where I know that there's certain...

01:26:56.000 I don't even want to know their politics.

01:26:58.000 I just want to know that they're not...

01:27:00.000 We're good to go.

01:27:20.000 The First Amendment is very important and we need to stand by it, but what's ended up happening is these platforms become monopolies and then they say, well, we're a privately owned business, we do what the fuck we wanna do, which I guess I understand, but at some point, you have a duty to uphold, if you're an American business and you have the monopoly on people being able to create content,

01:27:39.000 et cetera, and reach a bunch of people, You got to have some level of duty to be able to adhere to certain amendments and certain laws.

01:27:47.000 But, you know, it is what it is.

01:27:48.000 They're always going to say, well, it's a private company.

01:27:50.000 Well, it's a private company until you realize that, you know, the head of the FBI has now infiltrated the company and basically using it.

01:27:56.000 As an Operation Mockingbird 2.0.

01:27:59.000 Twitter, before Elon, I don't care that on paper it's a public company.

01:28:02.000 It was an intelligence apparatus and a government apparatus.

01:28:05.000 It was.

01:28:05.000 It was an undisclosed extension of the government.

01:28:08.000 It was.

01:28:08.000 And that's what fascism in its purest sense is.

01:28:11.000 You have the merger, the marriage, the incestuous relationship.

01:28:15.000 Facebook too.

01:28:15.000 Absolutely.

01:28:16.000 And Zuckerberg comes out and says, yeah, we suppressed the Hunter Biden story, but it was still accessible.

01:28:20.000 It was just radically diminished.

01:28:22.000 That's called doing the government's bidding.

01:28:24.000 And so when you have a private enterprise doing the government's bidding, they become government agents and they become subject to the Constitution. 0.99

01:28:30.000 Damn. 0.96

01:28:31.000 That's so true because, I mean, when I was an agent, right, let's say I have an informant, he can't entrap people. 0.99

01:28:36.000 Like, if he does something and he entraps them, well, even though he's not a government employee, he's acting on the behalf of the government.

01:28:41.000 He's still considered a government agent.

01:28:42.000 So, yeah, that's a good point.

01:28:44.000 If you're over here doing the government's bidding and doing what they say and suppressing certain things or whatever, you've effectively become the government.

01:28:50.000 So guess what?

01:28:50.000 Now you've got to adhere to government regulations and rules.

01:28:52.000 It is at issue right now.

01:28:54.000 It's in Biden v.

01:28:55.000 Missouri, which is one of the other big cases that's going on that deals with the government interference or coercion or involvement.

01:29:02.000 That guy's suing, is it the state attorney?

01:29:04.000 It's the state attorney general of Missouri.

01:29:06.000 At Missouri, Louisiana, I forget what state.

01:29:08.000 He's suing Media Matters too.

01:29:10.000 That's good.

01:29:11.000 These companies, they deserve to have to pay out the wazoo for what they've done. 1.00

01:29:16.000 Dude, you know how many lives these idiots have destroyed? 1.00

01:29:19.000 They're more than happy to. 1.00

01:29:21.000 When it comes to the Jan Sixers and the ones who take their own lives because of the process, These evil scoundrels are sitting there laughing and saying that's one less ideological adversary that we're going to have to deal with.

01:29:33.000 They've written so many hit pieces on Rumble.

01:29:34.000 They've written hit pieces on us, Russell Brand, Sneeko, Nick Fuentes.

01:29:37.000 Every single thing, on everybody.

01:29:39.000 Anyone that is on Rumble, it's like there's Steven Crowder.

01:29:42.000 They've written hit pieces on everybody.

01:29:44.000 I'm sure they've probably written some on you.

01:29:46.000 Radical lawyer, probably.

01:29:47.000 I'm a good Canadian boy.

01:29:50.000 Alice Jones?

01:29:51.000 The thing is, it's almost like they create this world where it's, by definition, you end up on Rumble, you are an extremist, period.

01:29:58.000 Yeah!

01:29:59.000 But no, I've had...

01:30:01.000 That's what they say, yeah. 1.00

01:30:02.000 One of the reasons why I relinquished my law license up in Quebec is I was paying $3,000 a year so that idiots can file... 0.99

01:30:08.000 Anonymous bar complaints because they think my tweets are mean. 0.99

01:30:12.000 And this is what Jordan Peterson's going through.

01:30:13.000 He puts out mean tweets that says Ellen Page found a criminal doctor who cut off her breasts and it used to be that pride was a sin.

01:30:21.000 And then they say, well, the order of psychologists doesn't like what you have to say and he's being subjected to a re-education camp.

01:30:27.000 But it's like, no, it's by definition.

01:30:29.000 Did they strip his license from him yet?

01:30:30.000 Not yet.

01:30:31.000 No, he has to go to re-education.

01:30:32.000 I don't know what the status is.

01:30:34.000 And they will.

01:30:36.000 He doesn't need his license.

01:30:37.000 Yeah, I think he refused.

01:30:38.000 I don't know.

01:30:38.000 No, I think he said, well, I think he has to go, and then he was going to try to record it, but I don't think he's going to get to do that.

01:30:44.000 I have to do a follow-up.

01:30:44.000 I haven't heard an update on that story.

01:30:47.000 Someone in the chat, maybe if you guys know what the deal is with that.

01:30:49.000 If I'm not mistaken, I think they're moving to strip him of it, because he refused to say, I'm not going to go back, but...

01:30:55.000 Maybe someone here in the chat knows better, because I haven't kept up with that.

01:31:00.000 And yeah, that's what blew him up, actually, was in Canada.

01:31:03.000 He just refused to use pronouns.

01:31:06.000 He was like, I'm going to call you Mr. 0.99

01:31:07.000 and Miss, whatever the fuck. 1.00

01:31:08.000 And they'll call that, at some point in time, they'll call that promoting genocide. 1.00

01:31:14.000 I say it, it's almost like a sick joke.

01:31:18.000 Well, people consider that to be a form of genocide.

01:31:20.000 And we talk about genociding the transgenders by not recognizing pronouns. 1.00

01:31:26.000 And Canada is putting up this bill now called the Online Harms Act, which seeks to increase the penalty for certain hate crimes to life in prison.

01:31:36.000 There's one where if you promote or advocate genocide, you could be punishable by life in prison.

01:31:43.000 But by their definition, simply not using a pronoun is promoting genocide.

01:31:47.000 Who the hell knows how it's going to get interpreted?

01:31:49.000 And the unpopular argument that I've been raising is some people are using the from the river to the sea expression, and others are going to say, well, that's promoting genocide. 0.96

01:31:57.000 So the very same, you know, to some extent you're going to have these overlapping forces where other people are going to say, yeah, I'm for censorship, but now I want to say something, and holy shit, from the river to the sea might be promoting genocide. 0.94

01:32:07.000 I might be going to jail for life.

01:32:09.000 It's a wildly exaggerated example.

01:32:12.000 We're saying this is where we're going.

01:32:13.000 This is where it's at in Canada.

01:32:15.000 It hasn't become law yet.

01:32:17.000 Yeah, but America's next, though. 0.65

01:32:19.000 Well, I mean, California and New York are following Canada's example, and they're the big states with big influence.

01:32:24.000 But it trickles down.

01:32:26.000 But you know what's scary?

01:32:27.000 That means whatever you said in the past, Canada will be used against you in the future.

01:32:31.000 And that's one of the provisions of the law, where it said if you have access to delete a post or a social media post and you don't, and it gets re-shared, that counts as republication for the purposes of the law.

01:32:40.000 That's wild.

01:32:42.000 It's Orwellian and people don't even know because people just want to live their lives and be left alone.

01:32:48.000 I was just listening to the famous scene from Network.

01:32:51.000 I was like, can you just leave me alone in my living room?

01:32:54.000 And that's all that people want.

01:32:55.000 But then while they're asking to be left alone, their freedoms and their lives are being stolen from them.

01:33:00.000 Yeah.

01:33:00.000 From an overbearing government.

01:33:02.000 And they don't even know it.

01:33:03.000 When I saw what happened to Andrew Tate, when they went back to his old videos and brought him up to judge him on this future...

01:33:09.000 Sex trafficking.

01:33:10.000 I was like, wow, this is a precedent of what's coming in the future.

01:33:14.000 It's scary, man.

01:33:14.000 It's what was done with Jones.

01:33:16.000 I mean, Jones was the canary in the coal mine.

01:33:18.000 And it's the most amazing thing, how they went after tape.

01:33:23.000 People are convinced that they don't like people and they have no bloody idea why.

01:33:26.000 And they say, well, I've seen a few clips. 1.00

01:33:28.000 Yeah, people say stupid things, and one is not condemned for the rest of their lives based on the stupidest things they've ever said. 0.99

01:33:34.000 There's certain things that you can do that are irredeemable, but those are very few and far in between. 1.00

01:33:38.000 But they go after Tate, and then Tate becomes popular.

01:33:42.000 Tate becomes, I'll say conservative, whatever.

01:33:44.000 Tate becomes a political adversary, and then, lo and behold...

01:33:48.000 Lawfare in Romania.

01:33:50.000 It's like people make a joke about the Matrix coming after you and it sort of becomes a meme or a trope.

01:33:56.000 But my goodness, it certainly pans out to be accurate.

01:33:59.000 Something's there.

01:33:59.000 We've seen it happen with people like Russell Brand, Alex Jones, Andrew Tate, Donald Trump, etc.

01:34:06.000 I mean, if you don't believe that having certain viewpoints puts you under the crosshairs, I don't know what to say because it's definitely real.

01:34:14.000 I believe in the future is going to be Foson Counts. 0.88

01:34:18.000 Cell phone is going to be watched, can't travel, and as well, social media.

01:34:23.000 So, at that point, what do you do?

01:34:25.000 You can't do anything.

01:34:26.000 Well, you want to get blackpilled at that point, or super cynical at that point, people turn to violence. 0.93

01:34:32.000 Or they kill you. 0.56

01:34:33.000 Well, I think they would rather you turn into the monster that they wanted you to be from the beginning so they can then say, look at these. 0.98

01:34:39.000 See?

01:34:40.000 He was violent.

01:34:41.000 We were right all along.

01:34:42.000 I have to look into the Ted Kaczynski story because I know that there's more to that than I definitely know that I understand.

01:34:48.000 But this is like the toughest thing is not to become the monster that they want you to become because these are all acts of provocation.

01:34:55.000 They want to create the extremists so they can then rely on the acts of the extremists To enforce more laws and expand their own power.

01:35:01.000 I was literally talking about this on a space.

01:35:02.000 I was telling people, like, you don't sit here and we're not going to take it back with trying to do some violent upheaval. 1.00

01:35:10.000 That's stupid. 0.99

01:35:10.000 What we got to do is use our platforms. 0.99

01:35:12.000 Use platforms like X and Rumble, etc.

01:35:14.000 Get our voices out there because people are slowly waking up.

01:35:17.000 They are waking up. 0.99

01:35:18.000 Maybe not this election cycle because we're focusing on getting Trump in, but after that, etc., people are waking up and realizing that the bullshit is going on. 0.90

01:35:25.000 And platforms like Rumble and X are helping that.

01:35:27.000 So it's...

01:35:28.000 We can absolutely get these clowns out of office and get the guys in that we need to get if we're able to build up enough influence, unite people that way because they want you to do the stuff on January 6th, call you a violent insurrectionist, put you in jail, et cetera, and silence you because they know once they put you in jail, you can't say nothing. 0.91

01:35:43.000 So you don't give them what they want. 0.93

01:35:44.000 You use your influence, you use your mouthpiece, you use your brain, and you get these guys out of office to put the people in that we need to put in legally.

01:35:52.000 I actually disagree.

01:35:53.000 I don't think you could get them out of office.

01:35:55.000 What I think is when you tweet and put yourself out there like that, they know who you are, and they just target you.

01:36:00.000 However, if you're smart about it, you work from the inside out.

01:36:02.000 You become one of them, and you work from the inside.

01:36:05.000 That's what I think.

01:36:06.000 That is the operating theory as to why Elon brought in the CEO. Yes.

01:36:11.000 Has a Y in it.

01:36:12.000 What's your name again?

01:36:14.000 I can't remember your phone name, but...

01:36:15.000 Well, I think they could be voted out of office because I think you can...

01:36:19.000 The expression is you don't need to...

01:36:23.000 Wake up the sheep.

01:36:23.000 You need to mobilize.

01:36:24.000 You don't need to wake up 100% of the sheep.

01:36:26.000 You need to mobilize 10% of the lions.

01:36:27.000 Something along those lines.

01:36:28.000 I've screwed it up, but that's the idea.

01:36:30.000 You just need to get a certain critical mass, and it doesn't need to be that much to affect the change.

01:36:35.000 But the problem is you've got to avoid the temptations, and you've got to, on the one hand, call out the feds.

01:36:41.000 No pun and no meme here.

01:36:43.000 You call out the re-epsis.

01:36:45.000 You don't listen to the re-epsis.

01:36:46.000 Also, you've got to watch for the Operation Co-Intel Pro type. 1.00

01:36:51.000 Anyone that's advocating for violence, like they're an idiot. 1.00

01:36:53.000 Advocating for violence or creating infighting. 1.00

01:36:57.000 You don't have to agree with everything everybody says in order to be ideologically aligned on the most important things.

01:37:03.000 Creating infighting among ideological allies is something they've been doing forever, something the FBI and CIA has been doing for a long time, and I see a lot of it today.

01:37:13.000 And so the question is...

01:37:14.000 That's smart.

01:37:14.000 Well, no, it's fantastic.

01:37:15.000 Divide and conquer. 0.98

01:37:16.000 That way you don't have to do all the dirty work.

01:37:18.000 You just show up, plant some seeds, and you just watch it fall apart.

01:37:22.000 Absolutely.

01:37:22.000 You watch people scratching each other's eyes out on the internet, and then you have fights between...

01:37:30.000 Big, influential individuals, influencers, platforms, and then when it says, look at these people, they can't even get along among themselves.

01:37:37.000 Yeah, that's how you win.

01:37:39.000 Are we reading some chats here?

01:37:39.000 Yeah, read some chats, and then we'll close out here.

01:37:42.000 Hope you guys are enjoying the podcast, by the way.

01:37:43.000 Hi, AQ Conversation here.

01:37:46.000 With Viva Frye.

01:37:47.000 Hey, FNF. Much respect at what you guys do.

01:37:49.000 Hey, Maren. 0.99

01:37:49.000 How do I find like-minded guys in Canada are a really well country? 0.99

01:37:52.000 Don't worry, bro.

01:37:53.000 We are literally in the process.

01:37:54.000 I got, I think, 15 cities.

01:37:56.000 We need to get Toronto next.

01:37:58.000 We're going to go ahead and have Castle Club Generals, man, and we're going to be doing meetups and everything else like that.

01:38:03.000 I'm going to do a meeting with the generals first, then we're going to introduce them to you guys probably Wednesday is what I'm thinking.

01:38:08.000 Last week we had really bad storms, etc.

01:38:10.000 I couldn't do it because we...

01:38:11.000 Yeah, that was a whole long story.

01:38:12.000 But yeah, we were flooding down here in Florida.

01:38:15.000 Can you ask Vivo about the Citizens United case and how the Clintons won a case of paying someone off while they're convicting Trump for the same thing?

01:38:24.000 Citizens United, I can't comment on it.

01:38:25.000 I have to refresh my memory on it.

01:38:27.000 If the second half of the question is, they won a case paying someone off while they're convicting Trump for the same thing.

01:38:31.000 Basically like Trump did, yeah.

01:38:32.000 Well, I'm not sure if that's referring to the Steele dossier, which is Hillary Clinton and the DNC literally did what they accused Trump of having done with Stormy Daniels.

01:38:41.000 Really?

01:38:41.000 Campaign finances to produce opposition research, which was a lie of a document.

01:38:48.000 It wasn't opposition research.

01:38:49.000 It was disinformation. 0.99

01:38:51.000 They used campaign finances to pay off the steel dosi, which they knew was bullshit. 0.97

01:38:54.000 They used their Sussman lawyer, his name was Sussman, to feed it to the FBI. Foreign on behalf of the DNC and Hillary Clinton. 0.94

01:39:02.000 He billed them for the meeting.

01:39:05.000 FBI leaks it to Yahoo.

01:39:06.000 Yahoo publishes it so the FBI can say, oh look, this steel dossier shows Trump connections to Russia so we can go get a secret FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page.

01:39:15.000 And they concealed the payment.

01:39:17.000 And it was discovered.

01:39:18.000 And all the...

01:39:20.000 What Satan herself got was an $8,000 fine and the DNC got a $133,000 fine.

01:39:25.000 It was literally- Trump changed for them.

01:39:27.000 They punished what they don't like.

01:39:28.000 No, but it was literally what they accused Trump of.

01:39:30.000 Trump did not pay for the Stormy Daniels payment with campaign finance, campaign funds.

01:39:34.000 So that's a material distinction.

01:39:37.000 Technically, it was the lawyer that paid out of his own pocket.

01:39:40.000 Michael Cohen paid out of his own pocket.

01:39:44.000 That's a big reason why he's so mad at Trump.

01:39:46.000 He's like, bro, pay me back my money.

01:39:47.000 He wasn't campaign funds.

01:39:48.000 He did it.

01:39:49.000 He did it.

01:39:51.000 It's just anybody who followed that. 0.83

01:39:52.000 Nobody knows what a ridiculous trial that was, but nobody could watch that trial live.

01:39:56.000 So you had to follow that trial only by live tweets. 0.65

01:39:58.000 Or you had to be in New York in the courtroom watching it.

01:40:01.000 I mean, this is how they conceal the injustices so that nobody knows what happened during that case and what was the outcome.

01:40:08.000 He was convicted on all 34 counts.

01:40:10.000 And then you get Michael Cohen coming out and, you know...

01:40:14.000 He was like the star witness.

01:40:14.000 Him and Stormy Daniels.

01:40:15.000 Two individuals that pretty much have no credibility.

01:40:18.000 Michael's a whole L, bro.

01:40:19.000 How is he still... 0.99

01:40:21.000 He's the worst person, among the worst people on earth. 0.74

01:40:24.000 He admitted on the stand... 0.98

01:40:26.000 Okay, you have to understand this.

01:40:27.000 This is how absurd it is, but nobody who wasn't following tweets pretty much knows this.

01:40:31.000 He was on the stand testifying that Trump directed him to pay that money to Stormy Daniels.

01:40:37.000 That money consisted of $420,000.

01:40:39.000 There was like $50,000 to a tech company called Red Hat.

01:40:42.000 No, not Red Hat.

01:40:43.000 It was a tech company.

01:40:45.000 There was the one whatever to Stormy.

01:40:47.000 It was like 120, 130.

01:40:48.000 130 to Stormy.

01:40:48.000 And he had to pay him more because it was going to be looked at his income.

01:40:51.000 Yeah, and there was his bonus in there.

01:40:52.000 He stole $30,000 from that, which was 30 of the 50 that he was supposed to pay to the tech company.

01:40:58.000 So his theory, and the jury bought it, is that Trump organized, orchestrated this payment, from which Michael Cohen admitted on the stand he stole $30,000.

01:41:08.000 It makes no sense because it would be like Trump authorizing him to steal his own money, which he didn't do, which is patently evidence that he never authorized the payment in the first place.

01:41:16.000 Michael Cohen did it, stole from it, admitted it on the stand, and he's off scot-free and he's the star witness. 1.00

01:41:22.000 He's a criminal, he's a perjurer, he's a liar, he's a thief. 0.99

01:41:26.000 He admitted to all of this on the stand and Trump is the one that gets convicted for the acts of his criminal lawyer. 1.00

01:41:31.000 I mean, the actual criminal who happens to be a lawyer.

01:41:33.000 Incredible.

01:41:35.000 Incredible.

01:41:36.000 Hey man, it's Pattern.

01:41:37.000 Jason Todd, 91.

01:41:38.000 50 bucks.

01:41:39.000 Appreciate that, Jason Todd.

01:41:40.000 Shout out to you.

01:41:40.000 Please get Dan.

01:41:41.000 And guys, for you guys that are sending in these rumble rats, et cetera, guys, join Council Club, man.

01:41:44.000 It's only 35 bucks to join.

01:41:46.000 Join in there, man.

01:41:47.000 Become a part of the community, man.

01:41:48.000 We got 6,600 plus y'all ninjas in there strong.

01:41:51.000 We want to get to 10,000.

01:41:52.000 And you can add memes and gifs.

01:41:53.000 Yeah, you can add memes and gifs and you can go ahead and super chat and it'll be way funnier.

01:41:56.000 So, yeah.

01:41:58.000 Okay, Nav Singh goes, please get Dan Peña on the show.

01:42:00.000 Google him.

01:42:01.000 If you don't know, then you'll remember.

01:42:02.000 He would be an incredible guest.

01:42:04.000 He's like a tycoon of sorts.

01:42:07.000 Kind of like Grant Cardone, but...

01:42:08.000 Oh! 0.60

01:42:09.000 He always wears the three-piece suits.

01:42:10.000 I know what you're talking about.

01:42:11.000 Really hardcore guy.

01:42:14.000 Let's see.

01:42:14.000 If he wants to come on, bro, we might be too controversial for him.

01:42:17.000 I think...

01:42:18.000 Just these?

01:42:19.000 Okay.

01:42:20.000 RL. What the fuck did Ryan Dawson say about you? 0.98

01:42:23.000 Look it up on Twitter, bro. 0.99

01:42:24.000 Greg.

01:42:24.000 Said a bunch of stuff.

01:42:26.000 That means Montreal's in the house. 0.96

01:42:31.000 Salutations.

01:42:31.000 That's from RL. Oh, okay.

01:42:32.000 Shout out to RL. And that's it?

01:42:35.000 Okay, cool.

01:42:37.000 One more just came in right now.

01:42:39.000 Okay, we'll read the one that came in.

01:42:40.000 From Castle Club?

01:42:41.000 Yes.

01:42:41.000 Okay, what do you say on Castle Club?

01:42:43.000 Myron.

01:42:44.000 Oh yeah, Super Javi says, Myron, no Phoenix, Arizona, Castle Club General.

01:42:49.000 No, I don't think we have one yet.

01:42:50.000 But you're going to have to talk to Jocasta and DL Saint.

01:42:52.000 They're doing the vetting for generals. 1.00

01:42:54.000 You've got to have your shit together. 1.00

01:42:55.000 You can't just be like, you know. 0.99

01:42:56.000 But if you've got your stuff together, then yeah, definitely I'll put you in touch with DL Saint.

01:42:59.000 Yes.

01:43:00.000 Must be together. 1.00

01:43:01.000 Yeah, you've got to have your shit together. 1.00

01:43:02.000 You can't be a brokey and expect to lead guys in our community. 1.00

01:43:07.000 Okay.

01:43:07.000 Viva, thank you so much for coming down to hang out with us, brother.

01:43:11.000 Can you tell the people where they can find you and, yeah, any new projects coming up?

01:43:16.000 I'm going to go live and rant and scream tomorrow throughout the week.

01:43:19.000 Viva Fry on Rumble, YouTube, but we favor Rumble.

01:43:23.000 The Viva Fry on Twitter and VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com where there's a ton of exclusive stuff for supporters and we have an amazing, massive community on Rumble.

01:43:33.000 On locals, I'm sorry.

01:43:34.000 Yeah.

01:43:34.000 And guys, locals and Rumble are one.

01:43:36.000 So, like, if you rock with locals, then you're supporting Rumble and you're supporting free speech.

01:43:41.000 And guys, this is, you know, Rumble is constantly getting attacked by governments.

01:43:45.000 I mean, Russia recently shut down Rumble.

01:43:47.000 Brazil has been shut down.

01:43:49.000 France.

01:43:49.000 Actually, let me rephrase.

01:43:51.000 They basically wrote letters saying, we need you to cancel XYZ Creator.

01:43:55.000 Rumble said, pound sand, we're not canceling that crater, we're just going to turn ourselves off in your country. 1.00

01:44:00.000 France, Brazil, Russia, recently Russia.

01:44:03.000 And I think China, they were off China.

01:44:05.000 I don't think they've been on China.

01:44:07.000 The irony is just, you know, the countries that are now banning Rumble, or not banning, but causing Rumble to pull.

01:44:12.000 Yeah.

01:44:12.000 France never banned them.

01:44:13.000 They just said, you pull RT. Yeah.

01:44:15.000 And he said, no, we'll pull from France.

01:44:16.000 That's how it's been every time. 0.99

01:44:17.000 It's like, they basically sent a letter saying, we need this crater gone, and Rumble says no, and then they're like, well, whatever, and then Rumble says, you know what, fuck you guys, and they pull out the country. 0.99

01:44:24.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:44:24.000 So... 0.99

01:44:25.000 Hey, Rumble really stands for free speech.

01:44:27.000 When the British government said, hey, is Russell Brand monetizing on your platform?

01:44:31.000 Because they did that to YouTube and obviously they caved and demonetized immediately. 1.00

01:44:34.000 Rumble stood firm and said, fuck off. 1.00

01:44:36.000 And they didn't care. 1.00

01:44:37.000 So, guys, you gotta stand behind the platforms that stand behind your favorite creators.

01:44:41.000 Whether it's us, Russell Brand, the Tate Brothers, Steven Crowder, Sneeko, etc.

01:44:45.000 Viva Frye.

01:44:45.000 We're all on Rumble because Rumble is the home of free speech, guys.

01:44:49.000 I'm trying to explain this to you guys.

01:44:50.000 Like...

01:44:51.000 YouTube and these other platforms are not free speech, man.

01:44:54.000 So, you gotta support free speech.

01:44:56.000 Support the game.

01:44:57.000 Yeah, bro.

01:44:57.000 There's a reason why every big conservative creator, even guys that aren't banned yet, have a platform on Rumble.

01:45:02.000 Even the Daily Wire are over on Rumble.

01:45:05.000 So, that tells you what you need to know.

01:45:07.000 But anyway, guys, go check them out, man.

01:45:09.000 Obviously, fantastic legal breakdowns here.

01:45:11.000 Super haiku conversation.

01:45:12.000 I learned a bunch on this show.

01:45:14.000 I hope you guys did, too.

01:45:15.000 Check them out on Romo and on YouTube as well.

01:45:18.000 And thank you so much for coming, bro.

01:45:19.000 Mike, thank you very much.

01:45:20.000 Thanks for coming, man.

01:45:21.000 It's fantastic.

01:45:22.000 It's good stuff, bro.

01:45:22.000 Nice to meet you.

01:45:23.000 He is Vivian Fry.

01:45:24.000 We'll catch you guys back here on After Hours in a little bit.

01:45:25.000 Love you guys.

01:45:26.000 Get the app party tickets.

01:45:27.000 They're there on castclub.tv right now.

01:45:28.000 Make sure you become a member.

01:45:29.000 Peace!

01:45:30.000 I ran, I ran so far away I just run!

01:45:37.000 I run all night and day!

Fresh & Fit - June 17, 2024

Free Speech, Lockdowns, Alex Jones Bankruptcy And MORE!

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