Fresh & Fit - Fresh&Fit Vegas Edition w- Rollo Tomassi

00:12:58.000 And we are live.

00:12:59.000 What's up, guys?

00:12:59.000 Welcome to the Fresh Fit Podcast.

00:13:00.000 I'm here, Rolo Tomasi, the legend.

00:13:02.000 No girls, thank God. 1.00

00:13:03.000 We're going to be talking about a couple things, and there's no intro music.

00:13:05.000 This is actually, Thursdays are actually our Access Vegas day, so it's like Access Vegas Fresh Fit today. 0.99

00:13:10.000 And look at this fucking... 0.99

00:13:12.000 Yeah, I like it, man. 1.00

00:13:13.000 We are right by the strip, guys.

00:13:15.000 From Redwood Studios, Las Vegas, Nevada.

00:13:18.000 Yeah, I'm happy to be here.

00:13:19.000 Thank you for letting us use your studio to do this show.

00:13:22.000 This is my third stream of the day.

00:13:24.000 We've been grinding, guys.

00:13:25.000 As you guys know, I did a gym stream earlier today.

00:13:28.000 Jake Shields was there.

00:13:29.000 He pulled up in the middle of the workout.

00:13:31.000 I think I might do a gym stream with Rolo tomorrow.

00:13:34.000 Powerhouse.

00:13:34.000 Maybe at Powerhouse Gym.

00:13:35.000 Yeah.

00:13:35.000 It's going to be in the morning, so I'm going to have to make sure I get some sleep.

00:13:38.000 I only slept like three or four hours last night, by the way, guys.

00:13:40.000 You're making this announcement that people will show up at nine o'clock just to be there, I think.

00:13:44.000 I know they're here somewhere.

00:13:47.000 So, yeah.

00:13:47.000 So, We did the gym IRL, and then I just got done doing the Hodge twins, as you guys saw earlier.

00:13:53.000 Great discussion with them.

00:13:54.000 Hilarious.

00:13:55.000 It went for like two and a half hours, pretty much.

00:13:56.000 Just making jokes, having a good time.

00:13:58.000 We talked about their come-up, former jobs, girlfriends, We're good to go.

00:14:26.000 And we got like two main topics, which I know are going to bleed on to other things.

00:14:30.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

00:14:31.000 I mean, Rolo, I know who you are, but for the people that might be new and might not know who you are, can you introduce yourself?

00:14:35.000 I'm the author of The Rational Mail, five book series.

00:14:38.000 Thank you very much.

00:14:39.000 I'm pretty sure everybody knows who I am.

00:14:42.000 But I am also the co-host of Access Vegas with Mike Sartain.

00:14:46.000 And I've been doing that for, gosh, we're coming up on two years in October. 0.98

00:14:50.000 Damn, time flies up. 0.98

00:14:51.000 Yeah, right? 0.98

00:14:52.000 Decided we were going to, well, Miguel Munoz and I decided we were going from Dollar Cost Crypto, decided we were going to do something here in Vegas about this time two years ago.

00:15:03.000 And this is where we're at, man.

00:15:05.000 We've come a very long way in a very short time.

00:15:08.000 There are so many people here in Vegas, dude.

00:15:09.000 I know.

00:15:10.000 We're here.

00:15:11.000 Dan Balzerian's here.

00:15:12.000 Todd Swins.

00:15:13.000 Jake Shields.

00:15:17.000 Mike Sartain, obviously.

00:15:18.000 Right.

00:15:18.000 The crypto guys are here.

00:15:20.000 Like, dude, it's just wild.

00:15:21.000 Well, you know, I tell you what's funny is like, we're right around August.

00:15:25.000 Are there any other big YouTubers I missed that are here in Vegas?

00:15:28.000 There are some others, but they're not in our niches.

00:15:30.000 That's all.

00:15:30.000 There's a lot of other guys.

00:15:33.000 There's like social groups here.

00:15:34.000 They call it Taco Tuesdays.

00:15:36.000 Like on Tuesdays, everybody will get together.

00:15:37.000 It doesn't matter what your niche is.

00:15:39.000 And you just get together.

00:15:39.000 I mean like YouTubers.

00:15:41.000 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

00:15:42.000 Like influencers, YouTubers. 0.51

00:15:44.000 I'm trying to think who else is around.

00:15:45.000 I mean, there's...

00:15:47.000 You know, John Orlando and the Sports Junkies and stuff like that.

00:15:49.000 I like sports.

00:15:51.000 There's a lot of different varieties of podcasts out here.

00:15:54.000 As far as I know, we're probably the number one in our niche right now.

00:15:57.000 Nobody else is doing like red pill content.

00:15:59.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:15:59.000 In Vegas, yeah.

00:16:00.000 And then, you know, like I said, we decided we wanted to come out.

00:16:04.000 I was actually, for a while, I was thinking about maybe doing something.

00:16:07.000 Ours used to be out here.

00:16:07.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:16:08.000 Well, you know, I'll tell you what's funny is Owen Cook has been making the rounds again in Los Angeles.

00:16:13.000 I just saw him in June and hung out with him for a little bit.

00:16:17.000 And I know Mike talks to him quite a bit.

00:16:18.000 So it's a possibility he might be coming out to Vegas, you know, making some appearances for sure.

00:16:23.000 Yeah, he's very sporadic, man.

00:16:24.000 Like, I don't know.

00:16:25.000 He does his own thing.

00:16:25.000 Yeah, like he just, you know, he does content here or there and I don't see him for months and he comes back.

00:16:30.000 Yeah.

00:16:31.000 And I'm now officially partnered with MOA, which is Men of Action, which is Mike's group.

00:16:36.000 My group is now called Reignite, and we are specifically talking to guys who are 45 to 65 years old, which is the prime demographic for self-deletion.

00:16:46.000 Well, you've got to figure out guys are like three and a half to four times as likely to kill themselves, and it's always around that time because it's when they go through a divorce, which, by the way, according to Jim Sexton, a divorce attorney, as we know, You're eight times more likely to off yourself after a geyser,

00:17:05.000 anyways, after a divorce.

00:17:07.000 And the average age of the first divorce is 43, 44.

00:17:13.000 Oh, wow.

00:17:13.000 So that was...

00:17:15.000 That makes sense.

00:17:16.000 We definitely saw my partner, Joe Mara, and I decided, we said, you know, we really need to...

00:17:21.000 This is an underserved demographic.

00:17:23.000 So for sure, we're working with them.

00:17:24.000 And so now we're actually...

00:17:26.000 I'm doing something tangible. 0.97

00:17:28.000 Everybody wants to say if the red pill doesn't do anything, all we do is just sit here and bullshit and talk and complain and all this other stuff. 0.99

00:17:33.000 And it's like, when we do something tangible, nobody says shit. 0.96

00:17:36.000 When we do something, when we do outreach and we're actually doing these starting communities, we have Zoom calls, we have events that we go to, we have activities and things like I want to start getting these guys out and doing things like going to a gun range or going deep sea fishing or going golf or whatever it is. 0.66

00:17:51.000 Because men communicate better when they have a project or they have something that they can unite over, something they can share, like a shared problem to solve or a shared interest. 0.54

00:18:02.000 And one of the things I picked out when I was deciding to do this group is female therapy doesn't work for men. 1.00

00:18:11.000 Everybody wants to think, oh, mental health and all this stuff. 1.00

00:18:13.000 It's not like sitting on the fucking couch and talking about your feelings is bullshit. 1.00

00:18:18.000 Guys have communications when they're actually doing things. 0.99

00:18:20.000 And so we're adding that to the program as well so that guys can get together.

00:18:25.000 And it's not just going out to Zouk or the strip clubs or something like that.

00:18:28.000 You can go, there's a place here in Vegas, I want to go do this, where you can go drive a tank.

00:18:33.000 And you can go shoot automatic weapons if you want to, or you can go to the track that's down in South Vegas and just drive fast cars.

00:18:39.000 Whatever it is, whatever your thing is, guys tend to have conversations and tend to make friends and they tend to form networks and tribes as a result of some sort of shared interest or some sort of shared project that they're working on.

00:18:52.000 And so that's going to be integral to what we're doing with Reignite as well.

00:18:55.000 But I'm now officially partnered with MOA and that's going to be my new thing and it's outreach and it's actually something concrete and something tangible.

00:19:04.000 I like that you're going after that 45 to 60 demographic because a lot of guys feel isolated at that point.

00:19:13.000 You know, who am I going to find?

00:19:14.000 Can I get back into the game?

00:19:15.000 It's very confusing for them.

00:19:18.000 Oh, man.

00:19:18.000 When they come out of, like, say they've been in a 20-year marriage and they've been in a sexist marriage, they get out of it and now suddenly they're like, it's like a stranger in a strange land.

00:19:27.000 Could you imagine you get married in the year fucking 2000 when Britney Spears was sane? 0.97

00:19:31.000 Yes. 0.99

00:19:31.000 And then... 0.99

00:19:32.000 You come back here in 2024 and she's dancing with knives and she's fucking crazy and now you're single and you're trying to talk to a chick at the bar in 2024 versus in 2000. 1.00

00:19:41.000 You were like, you know, you could do that. 0.92

00:19:44.000 You know, Roosh said this.

00:19:45.000 I agree with him so much on this one thing that he said.

00:19:48.000 He said that the cell phone and bottle service killed night game.

00:19:53.000 Yeah.

00:19:53.000 And I, you know, that came back to me because we had a yacht party on Like, a couple weeks ago.

00:20:00.000 And, you know, we had, like, a crazy ratio.

00:20:03.000 Like, you know, as much as the haters wanted to say, there was no girls, bro.

00:20:05.000 There's, like, 7 to 1 ratio, right? 0.73

00:20:06.000 The boat was so fucking big, you just couldn't see everything, right? 0.78

00:20:08.000 It was so bad. 0.92

00:20:09.000 One of the girls I was supposed to meet up with, I thought she didn't show up to the party. 1.00

00:20:13.000 And she was like, I was on the out the whole time. 0.99

00:20:14.000 I was like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:20:15.000 And she's, I was like, you're lying. 1.00

00:20:15.000 And she sent me a picture, and she was on the out. 1.00

00:20:17.000 I was like, oh, shit. 0.99

00:20:18.000 We were live streaming, so I missed it. 0.99

00:20:19.000 But we had, there were so many girls there. 1.00

00:20:20.000 But I digress.

00:20:21.000 The main point here is that we went to the club after. 0.99

00:20:24.000 We went to Vandoam, you know, Fresh's favorite fucking place. 0.99

00:20:26.000 Sure, yeah. 0.98

00:20:27.000 When we had the guys there, so I was like, you know what? 0.97

00:20:29.000 I'll fucking go. 0.93

00:20:30.000 I haven't been to a club in a very long time. 0.99

00:20:32.000 And I go in there. 1.00

00:20:33.000 And I'm like, you know, if you don't have a section, dude, you're fucked. 1.00

00:20:36.000 Like, you don't have a section. 1.00

00:20:38.000 Oh, yeah.

00:20:38.000 Like, with the bottle service or whatever.

00:20:40.000 And it's like, the girls, like, all they care about is, like, getting into a section.

00:20:45.000 Like, that's what they're there for.

00:20:46.000 Right?

00:20:46.000 Prestige.

00:20:47.000 Yeah.

00:20:47.000 And then the girls that are in a section, they're on their phones.

00:20:51.000 So it's like, people don't even go to the nightclub or the bar anymore to, like, actually socialize.

00:20:55.000 They go there.

00:20:55.000 They're not there in the moment.

00:20:56.000 They're there to make for content.

00:20:58.000 That's what it is.

00:20:59.000 Right?

00:20:59.000 Yeah.

00:21:01.000 So I genuinely do believe in it.

00:21:03.000 When this happened, it reminded me.

00:21:05.000 It's hilarious.

00:21:06.000 We're sitting there waiting, right?

00:21:07.000 And a bunch of girls just randomly walk in. 1.00

00:21:10.000 We brought like 30 girls with us, too. 1.00

00:21:11.000 They just walked in no problem. 0.96

00:21:12.000 We had to obviously go through and pay and shit like that. 0.99

00:21:15.000 And I'm just like, oh, look, these useless bimbos get in and we got to pay. 1.00

00:21:17.000 Look at this shit. 1.00

00:21:19.000 And then we walked in and reaffirmed that quote just hit me immediately. 1.00

00:21:24.000 Bottle service and the cell phone absolutely destroyed nightlife.

00:21:27.000 So you take a guy, like you said, trying to get back in the game. 0.97

00:21:30.000 Year 2000 is getting fucking married with TRL still going on and MTV and real world and wearing Gap jeans and shit like that. 0.92

00:21:38.000 And the next thing you know, 2024. 0.98

00:21:41.000 You're unfrozen from cryo-freeze and now you come out.

00:21:45.000 You walk into a nightclub now and you're like... 0.99

00:21:48.000 What the fuck is this? 0.98

00:21:49.000 Because in the early 2000s, no one had smartphones like this. 0.99

00:21:53.000 A lot of these guys that we're working with right now, they don't know that getting a girl's phone number is effectively meaningless.

00:21:59.000 It's like you got to follow on Instagram, right?

00:22:01.000 What's Instagram?

00:22:02.000 Well, they know what Instagram is because maybe their kids have it or something like that.

00:22:05.000 But the thing is, is they don't know how to optimize their pictures on there.

00:22:09.000 They don't know what they're doing.

00:22:10.000 They don't know what works best for them.

00:22:12.000 And mysteries to teach that, like a number of clothes was good.

00:22:14.000 A number of clothes was a metric of success back in the mid-2000s.

00:22:22.000 And now it's basically meaningless because it's all, follow me on Instagram, let me see if you're cool enough for me to want to hang out with you.

00:22:30.000 Do you have cool friends?

00:22:31.000 Do you have a little dog?

00:22:31.000 Where are you?

00:22:32.000 Are you somebody that I would want to actually hang out with?

00:22:35.000 And it's almost like your professional...

00:22:37.000 It's almost like having a LinkedIn for your personal life or your resume of you kind of thing.

00:22:41.000 And even Instagram is like...

00:22:43.000 You almost have to...

00:22:43.000 You have to get multiple bases of contact.

00:22:46.000 I've told guys before, you not only need to get a number, you need to get an Instagram... 0.93

00:22:51.000 And you damn near need to frame a date when you meet her right then and there because women are so fucking flaky in 2024 because they just have too many options. 1.00

00:22:58.000 Girls actually used to respect and admire male attention in the early 2000s. 0.96

00:23:02.000 But now, it's cheap.

00:23:04.000 So they don't care.

00:23:05.000 The other thing too I think guys need to understand, especially for the older guys, 45, 60 that are in your group, when you text girls now on iPhones, there's this feature where if it's not a recognized number or whatever or they haven't had communication, a lot of times it'll just go into a random spam box and she might never check it.

00:23:19.000 Yeah, I don't go into your hidden messages or something like that unless you're actually actively looking at those things.

00:23:24.000 It's not going to make any sense.

00:23:25.000 And I think another thing a lot of older guys need to see, like 45 to 60, is a lot of them might have a daughter.

00:23:31.000 Just look at your daughter's phone. 0.99

00:23:33.000 She might be fucking 18, 17, whatever. 1.00

00:23:36.000 Just look at her phone. 0.99

00:23:36.000 You're going to see 150 missed calls 300 text messages, 1,000 emails. 0.99

00:23:42.000 Just unheard of levels of attention.

00:23:44.000 Yeah, all unread.

00:23:46.000 Women today get unheard of levels of attention. 1.00

00:23:48.000 And I think it's overwhelming for guys to get in the game.

00:23:52.000 Because whenever I've talked to older guys that are just getting back in, the biggest thing they have is frustration. 0.99

00:23:57.000 What the fuck? 1.00

00:23:58.000 Women play a lot of games nowadays. 1.00

00:23:59.000 I'm like, dude, do you know how many options the average girl has? 1.00

00:24:02.000 And they have no fucking clue. 0.83

00:24:03.000 I'll tell you a funny story, what was kind of like the germ of the idea for this. 0.99

00:24:08.000 Have you ever seen, I think it's on like Amazon Prime, but it's a show called Tulsa King and it has Sylvester Stallone is in it.

00:24:15.000 Okay, and without giving you too many spoilers here, Sylvester Stallone plays like a mobster.

00:24:20.000 He was like in the mafia and he goes to jail 25 years ago for a crime he didn't commit.

00:24:25.000 He took the fall for somebody else in the mob, right?

00:24:26.000 When was the movie set?

00:24:28.000 Well, it's funny.

00:24:29.000 Literally, it's modern day.

00:24:32.000 And so he went to jail 25 years ago.

00:24:34.000 And the start of the series is when he's finally getting out here into the 2024, right?

00:24:39.000 Or 2022 or 2023.

00:24:41.000 So he went in like the late 90s or early 2000s.

00:24:42.000 Exactly.

00:24:43.000 So 25 years ago, right?

00:24:44.000 He comes out and he still thinks everything is like things are 25 years ago. 0.98

00:24:48.000 And it's interesting because like All of the things that, like, it sort of reminds you of all the shit that we take. 0.96

00:24:53.000 You try to go to Radio Shack? 0.98

00:24:54.000 Yeah, we take it for granted.

00:24:56.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:24:57.000 What's a beeper?

00:24:58.000 Right, exactly.

00:24:59.000 So he's coming out, and the mafia's afraid he's going to take over, like, the New York thing, so they keep him in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and now he basically takes over Tulsa.

00:25:08.000 And the first thing he does is he goes to like a weed dispensary in Tulsa and he thinks it's still illegal.

00:25:14.000 So he thinks it's like this backroom kind of like operation.

00:25:17.000 So he's like punching guys and like taking over.

00:25:19.000 Then he's like, no, sir, it's legal now.

00:25:21.000 You don't have to worry about anybody.

00:25:22.000 He's like, anybody?

00:25:23.000 Anybody can come in and buy?

00:25:24.000 Yes, anybody can, right?

00:25:25.000 Oh, man.

00:25:25.000 And so he takes over sort of the drug trade of Tulsa, but it's all legal drugs, right?

00:25:30.000 Well, even the drug trade has changed significantly.

00:25:32.000 And so what was funny to me is he plays a character who is like 76 or 70, yes, which is exactly how old Sylvester Stallone is right now, right?

00:25:42.000 And so the humor in the show is he went away for 25 years, and now he's sort of like thawed out of cryo-freeze kind of thing.

00:25:51.000 And I thought about this and I go, you know, that's kind of like a lot of guys when they go and they've been married for...

00:25:55.000 I've been married for 28 years, right?

00:25:57.000 I'm in the red pill space enough to know, you know, what's going on.

00:26:01.000 And you're around women all the time for me. 0.99

00:26:02.000 So you know what the fuck's going on here. 0.99

00:26:03.000 I've worked in a casino marketing. 0.99

00:26:05.000 I've been at Wine and Spirits.

00:26:06.000 I'm doing this stuff with Mike and everything like that.

00:26:08.000 The thing that's funny to me is the guys that we have that have already joined this group right now, they're like Tulsa King.

00:26:15.000 They don't know what Instagram is.

00:26:18.000 They don't know how the sexual marketplace has changed because when they got married 25 years ago, it was a global sexual marketplace or a local sexual marketplace.

00:26:28.000 They come into 2024 and it's globalized.

00:26:31.000 We talk about this all the time.

00:26:32.000 You guys talk about it on your show all the time.

00:26:34.000 I genuinely believe that is the root cause of...

00:26:36.000 Yeah, they can get Drake to get him on a yacht somewhere in Miami, right?

00:26:41.000 And it's not even...

00:26:41.000 I think people need to have this...

00:26:43.000 I think the global sexual marketplace is literally one of the biggest precipitators of the failure of relationships in modern-day society.

00:26:49.000 Yeah, because it's choice paradox is what it is.

00:26:53.000 I remember when somebody put Fresh on the spot and said, how many girls do you think at colleges or something like that are actually getting flown out to yacht parties in Miami? 1.00

00:27:05.000 And he said something like 30%, which was crazy.

00:27:08.000 But the thing is, what he should have said is it doesn't matter what the percentage is.

00:27:12.000 It matters what the perception is.

00:27:14.000 So if one of these girls sees one single girl that gets flown out, that's all that it matters to affect the sexual marketplace for that girl. 1.00

00:27:22.000 Because I'm hotter than that bitch and she got flown out. 1.00

00:27:25.000 And fuck, that means that I'm at least as valuable as that. 1.00

00:27:28.000 And I don't want to have anything to do with everybody that's in my local sexual marketplace. 0.99

00:27:31.000 If the possibility exists that I could get flown out to a yacht party by somebody who's rich and famous and has Lamborghini. 0.99

00:27:38.000 And this is why I get so mad when guys try to say, and women too, like, oh, that's just Miami girls or whatever the fuck. 1.00

00:27:45.000 And I'm like, look, you fucking idiots. 1.00

00:27:48.000 We're starting to get that now too here. 1.00

00:27:49.000 Yeah, right.

00:27:50.000 They're telling you that too, right?

00:27:51.000 These are just Vegas girls. 1.00

00:27:52.000 I think men need to understand, and this is a very uncomfortable reality that we need to just put out there.

00:27:59.000 A girl that's mildly attractive or very attractive, there's a high likelihood that she's doing something that monetizes off of her beauty, right?

00:28:07.000 I said something...

00:28:08.000 It's almost impossible not to now.

00:28:10.000 Even indirectly, it's almost possible not to.

00:28:13.000 I would say, and I want to get your take on this because I don't think I've told you this before.

00:28:16.000 I would say one in five women in today's day and age has done some type of sex work in her lifetime. 1.00

00:28:21.000 20%.

00:28:22.000 20%.

00:28:23.000 One in five.

00:28:23.000 That's my conservative thing.

00:28:25.000 Now, if we're going to take a girl that's hot, that's like... 1.00

00:28:29.000 7'8", right?

00:28:30.000 That's like, can actually make money.

00:28:31.000 She can go on a runway. 0.99

00:28:33.000 She can, you know, model clothing, whatever it is. 1.00

00:28:35.000 She's hot. 1.00

00:28:36.000 I would argue better than 50% of those girls have made money doing some type of sex work. 1.00

00:28:41.000 And why wouldn't they?

00:28:42.000 And when I say sex work, that means OnlyFans. 0.60

00:28:44.000 That means escorting.

00:28:46.000 That means sugar babying. 1.00

00:28:48.000 That means finessing dudes out of money and selling the allure of sex. 0.98

00:28:51.000 Like, any of this stuff...

00:28:53.000 I would argue 50% of girls have participated in some form of casual sex work that are hot. 1.00

00:28:59.000 And then one in five I think of regular chicks. 1.00

00:29:01.000 And then the other thing too I don't think people understand is like they'll sit there and say, oh, well, that's just Miami girls or that's just Vegas girls. 1.00

00:29:08.000 Well, stupid fuck. 1.00

00:29:27.000 Where do you think That's where they want to be. 1.00

00:29:30.000 There used to be this concept, and I think it was Tom Likas who actually came up with this, was that we should have regional ratings for girls.

00:29:39.000 Like a girl who's like an 8 or a 9 in Butte, Montana is like a 6 or a 7 in Vegas kind of thing. 0.60

00:29:47.000 And I think the principle is sound in that the most beautiful women from those localized areas, just sort of like the Midwest or something like that, They will congregate in Vegas, New York, Los Angeles, Miami, Dallas, wherever.

00:30:02.000 They either move here or at least they come and visit here.

00:30:05.000 And then that's where they do their dirt. 0.97

00:30:07.000 And I don't think men understand this.

00:30:08.000 They think, no, these girls are good. 1.00

00:30:10.000 She's from Idaho. 1.00

00:30:12.000 Shut up, dumbass. 1.00

00:30:13.000 She's coming here to be the hoe. 1.00

00:30:14.000 That's what it is.

00:30:15.000 She's coming from these places.

00:30:17.000 Unless she's wearing that Amish outfit with the collar around something like that. 0.98

00:30:20.000 And another thing, too, because there's been this explosion of sorority girls dancing on TikTok for Kamala Harris or whatever. 0.97

00:30:28.000 That's another big thing, too.

00:30:29.000 The whole college experience... 0.99

00:30:31.000 Let me just demystify this for you fucking guys. 1.00

00:30:34.000 College is a socially acceptable way to spend four years doing drugs and having sex. 1.00

00:30:40.000 That's what it is. 1.00

00:30:40.000 I was in college, and thankfully for me, like, I was an athlete, so it kept me away from a lot of stupid shit. 1.00

00:30:44.000 But all the girls there were fucking sluts. 1.00

00:30:46.000 They were all, like, 80% were sexually active, if not more, right? 1.00

00:30:50.000 And then you talk about, like, sorority girls.

00:30:52.000 Let me tell you guys something about sororities and fraternities.

00:30:55.000 When you're in a sorority or fraternity, what I just said, an acceptable way to spend four years doing it, even more so. 0.99

00:31:01.000 Guys, you get a lot of free time in college, especially if you're majoring in something stupid. 0.99

00:31:04.000 Let's just be honest here. 1.00

00:31:06.000 They're just partying and fucking drinking, especially as undergrads. 1.00

00:31:08.000 They're just partying and drinking every fucking day. 1.00

00:31:11.000 That's why so many people flunk out for being drunks. 0.98

00:31:15.000 And then if your girl like went to a big school, right?

00:31:17.000 A big sports school or like a big party school or whatever, big state school, 10, 20,000, you know, up to 50,000 kids.

00:31:25.000 Like, bro, like these girls are out here being hoes, man. 1.00

00:31:27.000 And like girls and then nothing to a majority of like college...

00:31:32.000 Enrollees now are women. 0.98

00:31:33.000 Majority are women now. 1.00

00:31:35.000 Why is that?

00:31:35.000 Ask yourself, why is it?

00:31:36.000 Is it like because women are smarter and they want to go to school or whatever? 1.00

00:31:39.000 No, it's because women tend to be more spontaneous and adventurous and like want to get experiences. 1.00

00:31:44.000 So like they want to go away from home and do that shit. 0.98

00:31:46.000 I think a lot of that has to, I think one of the reasons why you see more women in the workplace now, more women in college, more women in Making more money these days is simply because they've been sold this bill of goods that says you can't trust any guys. 0.99

00:32:01.000 Guys are inherently untrustworthy because you can't trust a guy for your long-term security. 0.71

00:32:06.000 And to their defense, a lot of men are bums. 0.99

00:32:08.000 Yeah, they are. 0.98

00:32:09.000 Exactly.

00:32:12.000 It's like this self-defeating negative feedback loop.

00:32:15.000 It just keeps coming back all the time.

00:32:17.000 And so what happens is if women are taught from a very early age that they can't trust men for their long-term security, They have to go do and generate it for themselves.

00:32:25.000 So that's why you get like, I'm an alpha female.

00:32:27.000 That's why you get women who want to go to college. 1.00

00:32:29.000 I'm not saying there's anything wrong with wanting to go to college, but I'm just saying that the thing is, you should ask yourself, why am I doing this?

00:32:36.000 Is it because I have some inherent fear that I'm going to not be able to take care of myself because I can't trust no man?

00:32:43.000 Either maybe you have an absent father or no father at all, or have a sort of a weak father.

00:32:49.000 And then you've got the idea that if you can't trust men for your long-term security, the only person you can trust is yourself.

00:32:56.000 And so whenever I see some of these, I see some women say, like, how do I find, like, I'm 35 years old, Rolo, how do I find a guy?

00:33:04.000 Where are the good guys at, right?

00:33:05.000 And I'm like, well, they're back in your 20s where you left them.

00:33:08.000 But the thing is, is that you, the problem is that you become the man you wanted to marry.

00:33:15.000 And by the way, that's not a Rollo Tomasi quote.

00:33:17.000 That's a Gloria Steinem quote from the 1970s, by the way.

00:33:21.000 I wish I had the sound effect.

00:33:22.000 It used to be this.

00:33:23.000 Cha-ching. 1.00

00:33:24.000 Chat.

00:33:25.000 It was, some women are becoming the men that they wanted to marry. 1.00

00:33:28.000 And now here we are in 2024, and we're still saying the same thing.

00:33:31.000 I've been on your show, and I have listened to 19-year-old girls say, repeat and parrot back lines I know came from Gloria Steinem, Betty Friedan, and late 70s militant feminists. 0.98

00:33:47.000 And for those that are wondering, Gloria Steinem is like the fucking spear, like tip of the spear when it comes to feminism. 1.00

00:33:53.000 Yeah, back in the day, she was our bodies ourselves in feminine mystique. 0.99

00:33:58.000 Yeah, the late 60s, early 70s.

00:34:00.000 Yeah, and through there.

00:34:01.000 And you're still to this day.

00:34:04.000 And I always was wondering, and I've tried this on a couple of occasions where I'm talking to women who are between like 19 and say 20, 24, somewhere around there.

00:34:12.000 And I'm like, where did you hear that?

00:34:14.000 Where did you hear that particular quote?

00:34:16.000 They couldn't tell you.

00:34:17.000 Maybe they heard it from their mom.

00:34:18.000 Maybe they heard it from a Beyonce song.

00:34:21.000 I don't know.

00:34:22.000 But the thing is, those memes from the late 60s and early 70s keep getting repeated and keep getting recycled.

00:34:28.000 And here we are in almost 24 years into the 21st century, and we're still using that vernacular.

00:34:35.000 It's so embedded in culture that they can't even tell you where it came from.

00:34:40.000 They don't know.

00:34:41.000 They could have picked it up from Nickelodeon or Disney Channel.

00:34:46.000 Most of them don't even know who Gloria Steinem is. 0.99

00:34:47.000 Me and you know because we know where the problems are.

00:34:51.000 We're educated enough to have an interest in that.

00:34:55.000 I'm always curious.

00:34:57.000 It's like every generation.

00:34:59.000 Zoomers did it. 1.00

00:34:59.000 Millennials did it. 1.00

00:35:00.000 Even Gen Xers. 1.00

00:35:01.000 They're still repeating the same shit. 0.99

00:35:04.000 And it's like, when are we going to start questioning these things? 0.99

00:35:07.000 It's really what your ideological epistemology is.

00:35:10.000 It's like, how did you come to believe what you believe?

00:35:12.000 And most people couldn't tell you how they developed their belief sets.

00:35:17.000 And I'm talking about this in terms of intersexual dynamics.

00:35:19.000 You could put a religion and politics and everything else.

00:35:21.000 But most people can't tell you how they came to believe what they believed, right?

00:35:25.000 Let me tell you this.

00:35:27.000 Because as you know, I've been...

00:35:29.000 You know, experimenting with covering politics and stuff.

00:35:31.000 Something that's always intrigued me, but I haven't really talked about it.

00:35:33.000 And I will tell you, Rolo, that it starts with the intersexual dynamics.

00:35:37.000 I would argue that feminism... 1.00

00:35:40.000 Was the tip of the spear to all the degeneracy and all the fucked up stuff in society going on right now? 0.93

00:35:46.000 Whether it's the alphabet community, it's the communist, socialist values, a lot of the Democrats that we got.

00:35:54.000 It's no coincidence that in, what was it, Seneca Falls was the Seneca Falls Convention of 1849, which is really where you kind of pegged the beginning of modern-day feminists. 0.78

00:36:04.000 It's where the suffragettes started, right? 0.98

00:36:05.000 Seneca Falls, I think it was New York or something like that.

00:36:08.000 And that's when they had sort of like the list of grievances and everything.

00:36:10.000 And from that point on, right up until August 1920, when the 19th Amendment was ratified, you had that for about 50 or 70 years of the suffragettes and everything else that was going on at that time.

00:36:25.000 And it's no coincidence that it was at the same time that Karl Marx and the communists came up right about that time as well.

00:36:32.000 They had a very common core.

00:36:35.000 Every single one of these isms that caused societal decay started with feminism. 1.00

00:36:41.000 I would argue feminism was the Trojan horse that allowed all the other problems to come in with it. 1.00

00:36:48.000 Because people think, oh yeah, there's innocent equality, blah, blah, blah.

00:36:51.000 I agree with that, but I think it's incomplete.

00:36:54.000 I think you're going to have to also add in.

00:36:56.000 I've said this on several different occasions when people ask me about feminism. 0.70

00:37:00.000 I don't think there are waves of feminism. 1.00

00:37:02.000 I think there's only one feminism. 1.00

00:37:05.000 Well, they want to say, well, you know, the suffragettes were good.

00:37:08.000 No, the suffragettes were treated as terrorists in the UK and the United States.

00:37:11.000 They planned bombings.

00:37:12.000 They planned political assassinations.

00:37:14.000 They bombed police precincts.

00:37:16.000 They're very, very racist in the very beginning of it. 0.99

00:37:19.000 They didn't want black women to have any votes. 1.00

00:37:21.000 They just wanted white women to have votes, right? 1.00

00:37:24.000 And so there's a lot that was going on in that 70-year period between like Seneca Falls and ratifying the 19th Amendment, right?

00:37:31.000 So then women get votes. 1.00

00:37:32.000 Now what?

00:37:33.000 Well, that's not enough.

00:37:34.000 Now we've got to keep going from that point.

00:37:37.000 And really, there's never been any waves of feminism.

00:37:41.000 It's just the same thing, but it's been broken up by two world wars, Vietnam, Korea, civil unrest, the Bolsheviks, wherever you are, you happen to be in the world.

00:37:52.000 Whatever sort of Civil unrest that interrupted that particular stream of feminism right up until 1965. 1.00

00:38:00.000 And 1965 is when we had the pill.

00:38:02.000 And that one piece of technology was the catalyst, I think, for what we know of as sort of like, I call it militant feminism, but like modern day feminism right now is the result of- So you wouldn't make a delineation from- Pre-pill to after-pill? 0.75

00:38:19.000 Well, the reason I wouldn't make it pre-pill, I would say the sexual revolution, which came in the wake of hormonal birth control.

00:38:27.000 Because what happens is, and I've done this, I'm actually considering writing a small book about this, which is The decade between 1965 and 1975.

00:38:37.000 And if you look at all the things where it comes with the decline of marriage, right now we are at the lowest marriage rate in recorded history in the United States.

00:38:44.000 We are at 6.1 per 1,000 people right now.

00:38:47.000 And that goes all the way back to mid-1800s.

00:38:49.000 That's as of 2024 or 2023?

00:38:51.000 2024.

00:38:52.000 And so when they're tracking it, this is the lowest it's ever been.

00:38:56.000 If you look at 1965 to where we are right now, The baby boom generation, the marriages went up, and then 65 came, and then they drop off a cliff, and at the same time, divorces go up. 0.59

00:39:08.000 At one point, when hormonal birth control is introduced in a popularized sense in Western culture, then you've got the sexual revolution, then you've got Woodstock, then you've got the boomers, then you've got no-fault divorce to facilitate all of the new divorces that are coming as a result of the pill.

00:39:24.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:39:26.000 Well, finish your thought before I ask you this question.

00:39:29.000 But look at all the other things that happened since then.

00:39:31.000 You've got like then Roe v.

00:39:32.000 Wade, 1972, 73, somewhere in there.

00:39:34.000 We go off the gold standard in 1971.

00:39:37.000 So now women are coming into the workforce and we don't have to worry about giving women credit cards or bank accounts anymore because we're in a fiat currency. 1.00

00:39:44.000 And here you go, ladies. 1.00

00:39:45.000 Have all the credit you want.

00:39:46.000 Yeah.

00:39:47.000 Then we've got, like I said, we've got Roe v.

00:39:50.000 Wade.

00:39:50.000 So now we have, like, his fast, safe, you know, elective abortions.

00:39:56.000 Then you've got Title IX, get more women into college, more women come into the workplace because they're divorcing their husbands and they're single. 1.00

00:40:02.000 And so now they've got to make money.

00:40:04.000 And if you also look at, like, the GDP at that time, you will see gross, you'll see wage earnings flatline.

00:40:12.000 But productivity goes to the roof because you have so many women that are now coming into the workplace, but they're not making any more money than the guys are. 1.00

00:40:18.000 Productivity goes up.

00:40:20.000 Mean wages stay the same.

00:40:23.000 I'm surprised they even stay the same.

00:40:26.000 If anything, I would think it would go down.

00:40:28.000 They go up a little bit with inflation and everything.

00:40:31.000 But if you compare it to productivity, productivity goes up to the roof and mean wages stay the same.

00:40:37.000 And then you just go through, I think the golden era for feminism was really about the mid-90s because we didn't have the internet, we didn't have communication, we didn't have the kind of mass communication that we have right now. 0.96

00:40:49.000 And right around 2000 to the mid-2000s, what happens when we have mass communication worldwide?

00:40:55.000 Now we're globalizing that much more and it's not just the economy that globalizes, it's the sexual marketplace that globalizes right around, you know, right through 2000 through 2010. 1.00

00:41:06.000 That's where you see the rise of the seduction community. 0.92

00:41:08.000 That's when it's no coincidence that the pickup artists in the forum eras, when we're on So Suave or Alt-Fast Seduction or the Venusian Arts, that's when all of that stuff came up.

00:41:17.000 The game, the book with Neil Strauss and Mystery Method, that comes out in 2005, right in between all of that.

00:41:23.000 And the reason for that is because now we can compare notes and now we have a new technology that allows men to sort of get together and collectively talk about this stuff.

00:41:31.000 You want to know where the rational male came from?

00:41:33.000 It came from about 10 or 12 years of me being on the SOSWA forums and having all of these conversations with these guys and then collecting all of that, putting it into cohesive blog posts and essays.

00:41:45.000 I'm essentially an essayist.

00:41:48.000 And then those found their ways into the chapters of the book.

00:41:50.000 And so now we go through the teens and now we're in the 2020s right now.

00:41:54.000 But if you look at the progression from where feminism sort of peaked, I think, you'll see it's in, like, nobody knows. 0.99

00:42:03.000 It's at its peak because it can enjoy the ignorance of most people because nobody's comparing notes, nobody's talking about it.

00:42:10.000 In fact, it's really kind of like improper behavior.

00:42:13.000 It's inappropriate to talk about female nature.

00:42:16.000 We plotted the human genome.

00:42:19.000 All this technology that's happened.

00:42:21.000 Let me ask you this question.

00:42:22.000 I don't want to interrupt you.

00:42:24.000 So you mentioned pre-1965 and after 1965.

00:42:28.000 Would it be fair to say that Pre-pill, women more and more concerned with civil rights, equality in the workforce, being taken seriously in general, right?

00:42:38.000 And then after 1965, it was more about sexual autonomy?

00:42:42.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:42:43.000 And because of one invention, you've got to remember just the impact of a chemical divide, because I think it's James Sexton calls it a technology, and it is.

00:42:55.000 It's a chemical technology that allows a woman To have sex without having to worry about, relatively speaking, we're worried about pregnancy. 0.97

00:43:06.000 And if you look at all of the social changes that cascaded down from one invention, and you look at how men like now suddenly during the 70s, you don't want to be a macho man anymore.

00:43:18.000 And that's like, you want to get in touch with your feminine side and all this Jungian psychology comes to anima, animus.

00:43:23.000 Becomes a big deal.

00:43:25.000 And all of this emotionalism, like the emotionalism that I talk about all the time, because I always talk about the difference between like empiricism and emotionalism.

00:43:32.000 That emotionalism started right after the sexual revolution because guys wanted to get in touch with their feelings.

00:43:38.000 They wanted to identify with women. 1.00

00:43:40.000 They wanted to be on Team Woman because they, exactly, it's sneaky fucker game. 1.00

00:43:44.000 They wanted to be and identify more like women so that they could get in there and like, oh, you're not like other guys. 1.00

00:43:50.000 Those other guys are, you know, patriarchal bastards. 1.00

00:43:52.000 You're not like that at all. 1.00

00:43:54.000 You're a modern guy.

00:43:55.000 What's a modern guy?

00:43:56.000 A metrosexual, right?

00:43:57.000 What's a modern guy?

00:43:58.000 It's a guy who's in touch with his feelings.

00:44:00.000 And we still have, again, we still have that legacy today.

00:44:03.000 When I go and I look at like Justin Baldini's site and the rest of these guys who are, they're redirecting my traffic and your traffic too right now. 0.97

00:44:09.000 It's like man bun, you know, masculinity sites and it's the same shit that... 0.55

00:44:16.000 Seriously, you can track the same words that they're talking about in 2024 all the way back to the mid-70s with guys trying to sort of go to their drum circles and burn patchouli oil and shit like that and just get in touch with their feminine side. 0.95

00:44:29.000 And a lot of that emotionalism is a direct result of the fact that these guys, men knew too, like the boomer generation.

00:44:36.000 We keep going back to the Woodstocks and all that other shit. 0.98

00:44:39.000 The boomer generation of men, they were on board. 1.00

00:44:42.000 Fuck yeah, what pill that you can take? 1.00

00:44:44.000 No one's been able to do that in the history of humanity to be able to fuck and not have to worry about getting pregnant. 1.00

00:44:52.000 It's crazy. 0.99

00:44:53.000 It's like eating candy and not getting fat.

00:44:55.000 That's like post-sexual revolution. 1.00

00:44:57.000 Now, prior to that, my mother-in-law is a prostitute Yeah. 1.00

00:45:17.000 And that was a scandal prior to the sexual revolution because if you had a child out of wedlock before 1965, in the 50s, early 60s, and it doesn't matter what religion you are.

00:45:31.000 It was just a social stigma.

00:45:33.000 If you had a daughter that got pregnant in high school at 16 or 17, she told me that they would have to put that girl away.

00:45:42.000 That's what they say.

00:45:43.000 Put her away. 0.96

00:45:43.000 Which meant she would either have to go have the baby and put it up for adoption or the baby would be had and then it would be parented by the grandparents. 0.96

00:45:50.000 Because the parents didn't...

00:45:52.000 It was brought shame on the family as a result of that.

00:45:55.000 So when we go back to the story...

00:45:56.000 I don't think Americans understand that this was a very shunned upon thing.

00:46:00.000 I think it's Ted Bundy's mom, if I'm not mistaken.

00:46:04.000 She had him.

00:46:05.000 Father wasn't there out of wedlock.

00:46:07.000 And they had to live in...

00:46:08.000 They had these homes for single moms. 1.00

00:46:11.000 Yeah.

00:46:11.000 I forget what it's called, but they're defunct now.

00:46:14.000 They don't exist.

00:46:15.000 The stigma for being a single mother prior to the sexual revolution was scandalous. 1.00

00:46:20.000 Afterwards, in the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, you're a fucking superhero. 0.99

00:46:24.000 You're doing it all. 0.99

00:46:26.000 I never needed a dad.

00:46:27.000 You can do both of them just fine.

00:46:29.000 Interesting story.

00:46:31.000 During the civil rights era, there was a woman that did exactly what Rosa Parks did. 1.00

00:46:35.000 Didn't want to give up her seat, etc. 0.77

00:46:37.000 She was a single mom though.

00:46:38.000 So they didn't want to push that.

00:46:40.000 They didn't want to use her.

00:46:41.000 They didn't want to use her as the... 1.00

00:46:43.000 So they let a ride.

00:46:45.000 Hey, sorry, we're not going to prop up your story about you not wanting to get up.

00:46:49.000 They waited until Rosa Parks did it because Rosa Parks wasn't a single mom. 1.00

00:46:53.000 That's how powerful it was back then. 0.98

00:46:56.000 Nowadays, women are fucking proud to be a single mom. 1.00

00:46:59.000 And electively do so. 0.98

00:47:01.000 I'll tell you what's funny is I've been reading these stories about these guys.

00:47:04.000 They brag about it.

00:47:05.000 They're in Denmark or in Amsterdam or something like that.

00:47:08.000 They're sort of like black market sperm donors right now.

00:47:12.000 And it's a real problem because these guys are sought out.

00:47:17.000 There's guys on this sort of...

00:47:19.000 Maybe they're dark websites or web 2.0 sites.

00:47:22.000 But these guys basically will give you a donation of sperm.

00:47:25.000 And there's certain individuals that are so popular that they keep getting chosen over and over and over again.

00:47:31.000 The problem with that is the guy is siring dozens and dozens of kids with random women. 0.76

00:47:36.000 And that can be a problem if those kids end up meeting each other and getting together in the future kind of thing.

00:47:43.000 So it's this inbreeding that goes along with that.

00:47:46.000 And so, like, that is a modern-day contemporary problem that we have right now as a result of one invention that was amplified by technology later on.

00:47:58.000 And you talk about that, too, how, you know, these guys in 1965 with this birth control, right?

00:48:04.000 Like, the women's rights movement was more about, like, civil liberties, voting, all this other stuff.

00:48:09.000 Then after 1965, it's sexual autonomy.

00:48:11.000 And I think, like, I mean, you've talked about this before.

00:48:14.000 The guys thought, yes, we're all going to get laid.

00:48:17.000 This is going to be awesome.

00:48:17.000 They didn't realize they were just basically selling themselves out.

00:48:20.000 They didn't know. 1.00

00:48:21.000 Fuck, I can get laid and I don't have to worry about pregnancy. 1.00

00:48:24.000 Hypergamy reared its ugly head and they're like, oh, well, now effectively 80-90% of you guys are fucking sexed out. 1.00

00:48:31.000 I think what happens is when people talk about it, I hear tradcons talk about this all the time. 1.00

00:48:35.000 They go, well, it's the guy's fault because they couldn't keep their dicks in their pants. 0.99

00:48:38.000 It's a new technology. 0.98

00:48:40.000 They don't know what's going to happen.

00:48:42.000 They only see what the proximate outcome is, which is I can get laid and I don't have to worry about a baby? 1.00

00:48:48.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

00:48:51.000 Caffeine? 1.00

00:48:52.000 Yeah.

00:48:53.000 When I make the distinction between pre-sexual revolution and post-sexual revolution, I don't think it's so much about the...

00:49:03.000 I don't think it's so much about the sexual permissiveness as it is the fact that you have to look at the root technologies that allowed for that mentality to exist in the first place. 0.94

00:49:11.000 So when people want to blame baby boomer men for not being able to keep their dicks in their pants, it's like, well, yeah, you would have done the same thing because it's brand new. 0.93

00:49:21.000 It's something that you've never had in the history of mankind. 0.98

00:49:24.000 If a technology came out today, right?

00:49:26.000 Oh, and there will be something.

00:49:27.000 Oh, yeah.

00:49:28.000 You can eat as many calories as you want and you won't get fat. 0.99

00:49:31.000 Dude, People are going to be fucking eating themselves into fucking death with candy and all this other stuff. 0.99

00:49:36.000 But what's going to happen? 1.00

00:49:37.000 They're going to get sick. 1.00

00:49:39.000 They're going to feel like crap. 0.99

00:49:40.000 Their teeth are going to rot. 0.99

00:49:41.000 There's always negative consequences to something that you think...

00:49:45.000 We never look at it in terms of those...

00:49:46.000 We don't look in the long term.

00:49:47.000 There's a really great line in Jurassic Park where they say you're so preoccupied with...

00:49:53.000 Can we do this?

00:49:55.000 Rather than, should we do this?

00:49:57.000 Because we don't know what the long-term implications are for humanity.

00:50:02.000 We just thought it was great.

00:50:03.000 Oh, well, women have the right to choose. 1.00

00:50:05.000 If you look at abortion right now, abortion is basically a fail-safe For bad reproductive choices.

00:50:13.000 Those bad reproductive choices as caused by a technology that allows you to have sex without pregnancy. 0.92

00:50:26.000 I don't...

00:50:26.000 Oh, do I have the keys?

00:50:27.000 Yeah, I do have the keys.

00:50:28.000 You want the fob?

00:50:28.000 Yeah, I got the fob.

00:50:30.000 Oh, thank you, bro.

00:50:31.000 Yeah, you just get some caffeine.

00:50:32.000 You want anything?

00:50:32.000 This is my third stream.

00:50:33.000 I'm dying.

00:50:34.000 No, no.

00:50:34.000 I'm fine.

00:50:36.000 Just so you guys know, look, you guys better work fucking hard, man. 0.98

00:50:39.000 I went to the gym this morning, like three hours of sleep, did a stream with the Hot Swans. 0.98

00:50:45.000 I'm here with Rolo.

00:50:46.000 We're still going hard to pay. 0.99

00:50:47.000 I'm getting some goddamn caffeine because... 0.99

00:50:48.000 I'm tired. 0.99

00:50:49.000 We're going to keep going.

00:50:50.000 That's my diet plan, by the way.

00:50:52.000 Caffeine and stress.

00:50:53.000 That's how I stay svelte.

00:50:56.000 Okay, so sorry.

00:50:58.000 You were talking about the...

00:51:01.000 I think that as far as sexual permissiveness is concerned, I think it's just the natural outcome of a technology that humanity wasn't ready for.

00:51:11.000 It's what's called...

00:51:12.000 You think humanity wasn't ready for it?

00:51:14.000 No, of course not.

00:51:15.000 Not to the sense where we would see...

00:51:18.000 We didn't want to look down the road and what would be the possible implications of social implications.

00:51:25.000 You know what's scary?

00:51:25.000 It's 2024 and we've had, what, 60 plus years of birth control?

00:51:31.000 And...

00:51:32.000 We still haven't fine-tuned it.

00:51:33.000 It still has massively bad side effects for a lot of women. 1.00

00:51:36.000 It still causes a lot of issues.

00:51:38.000 It's still incredibly unhealthy.

00:51:40.000 I can't even imagine what birth control is like back in 1965.

00:51:43.000 It was way more primitive, probably sucky side effects, etc.

00:51:47.000 But Yeah, we always look at it like, oh yeah, this is great.

00:51:51.000 Like, you know, and made a great quote.

00:51:52.000 Like, hey, could we do this?

00:51:53.000 But should we do this?

00:51:54.000 Should we actually do this?

00:51:55.000 And the reality is, it's like the same thing.

00:51:56.000 Like, if we came out with a pill where you don't gain weight, but you can eat whatever you want.

00:52:00.000 Well, there's always going to be side consequences to that.

00:52:02.000 For example, you can now eat as much candy as you want.

00:52:04.000 Your teeth are going to rot.

00:52:05.000 You're probably going to get some diabetes. 0.91

00:52:06.000 You're probably going to still feel like crap because when you eat a lot of candy, you know, you get that really sick, nauseous feeling.

00:52:11.000 So there's always something that comes into play.

00:52:14.000 And there's downstream effects that you're going to have to worry about.

00:52:16.000 Always side effects.

00:52:17.000 In my fourth book, The Rational Male Religion, in the introduction, I was actually, I think it was the first introduction, the first section of it.

00:52:25.000 I mentioned this.

00:52:26.000 I said, look, every so often in human history, there comes a technology that we are not, we're completely unprepared for, like nuclear weapons.

00:52:36.000 Like when we drop the bombs on Hiroshima and everything, we can do this. 0.95

00:52:40.000 Should we do this?

00:52:42.000 Yeah, good point.

00:52:43.000 And there's ethical implications, but not even so much that.

00:52:48.000 That one technology fundamentally changed geopolitics forever.

00:52:53.000 And it's what I call every now and then, remember in the Bible how it's like there's the tree of knowledge and Eve eats the apple from it.

00:53:01.000 I look at that sort of as like sort of an allegory or metaphor for every now and then there's a technology or there's some new thing that drops from the tree of knowledge and we have this and now we have the responsibility to do something with this, right?

00:53:14.000 Atomic weapons, obviously, okay?

00:53:16.000 The printing press from the Gutenberg press back in like 1480 or something, something like that.

00:53:21.000 That was a technology that increased literacy in Western Europe.

00:53:26.000 And what did it do?

00:53:27.000 It also caused wars between the Protestants and the Catholics back then because now everybody could read the Bible and they could say, you guys, there's some chicanery going on here with the Catholic Church and so now we're going to be the Protestants. 0.51

00:53:40.000 Martin Luther knocks the stuff to the door there.

00:53:43.000 As a result of one technology, the Gutenberg Press, movable type.

00:53:47.000 Okay?

00:53:48.000 So fast forward to 1965.

00:53:50.000 That's another apple that falls off the tree of knowledge.

00:53:53.000 And now we have to find some way to deal with this.

00:53:56.000 And not only just the fact that, hey, this is a great new technology. 0.99

00:53:59.000 We can fuck and we don't have to worry about getting pregnant. 1.00

00:54:00.000 But it's fundamental. 1.00

00:54:02.000 The internet.

00:54:03.000 The internet is just as big a deal as the Gutenberg Press.

00:54:08.000 And so when I talk about these new technologies that drop off the tree of knowledge, it's sort of, like I said, it's a metaphor for what's known as evolutionary gap.

00:54:19.000 And it means that technology advances way faster than our evolution and our instincts are.

00:54:27.000 Can process that and see ahead of the game.

00:54:30.000 So, for instance, like one of the Wright brothers start flying 1906 or 1910 or something like that.

00:54:37.000 By the 50s, we have jet engines and we've got Sabre jets and we've got Phantom jets in the 1970s in less than a hundred and under a hundred years, right?

00:54:47.000 We did put a man on the moon in the 60s from, you know, but we were flying in 1910, right?

00:54:55.000 Then we have computing.

00:54:56.000 If you look at the computers of, say, the mid-80s to this right now, you have the access to all the world's information on this one device right here.

00:55:07.000 If I was to take this back to the 70s, people would think I was the devil.

00:55:11.000 Yeah, they would. 0.99

00:55:11.000 They'd probably execute you. 0.99

00:55:13.000 What is this?

00:55:14.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:55:16.000 The smartphone.

00:55:17.000 There's a couple of events that come along that literally change humanity.

00:55:19.000 Social media is one of those too.

00:55:21.000 Yes.

00:55:22.000 Pornography.

00:55:23.000 Digital pornography is one of those as well.

00:55:25.000 People don't know that it's one of those yet.

00:55:27.000 That's the issue.

00:55:28.000 People don't know yet that social media is one of these situations, like a birth control, etc.

00:55:32.000 They don't know yet.

00:55:33.000 But I promise you, I would argue...

00:55:36.000 15 years, right?

00:55:39.000 When I'm probably right around your age, and then my brother, the Gen Zers are adults, or they're starting to become in their 30s. 0.97

00:55:46.000 Elderly?

00:55:47.000 Yeah.

00:55:47.000 When the Gen Zers get into their 30s.

00:55:49.000 We're kind of getting there.

00:55:50.000 The Gen Zers, because they grew up on cell phones. 0.99

00:55:52.000 They grew up on iPads, etc. 1.00

00:55:53.000 When they become in their 30s, they're going to be able to look back and say, yeah, this is a fucking problem. 0.99

00:55:59.000 Because now we've had a few generations that have dealt with social media and lived through it. 0.98

00:56:03.000 And I think they're going to be able to effectively look back and say, yeah.

00:56:05.000 Because the bills are going to come due.

00:56:06.000 Because there's going to be long-term consequences.

00:56:08.000 And they're going to realize what those were as a result of what they were doing in their 20s.

00:56:12.000 People are slowly picking up on it now.

00:56:14.000 But I don't think it's created enough of an impact yet. 0.98

00:56:16.000 We need another generation or two to wake up and be like, what the fuck are we doing? 0.97

00:56:20.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.98

00:56:21.000 And I think the most destructive of them is Instagram.

00:56:23.000 Yeah, Instagram.

00:56:25.000 I love Twitter, but, you know, I gotta say, you know, it's social media in general because, and I think it was another quote I did in the religion book, Zuby said, I'm going to paraphrase Zuby here, but human beings were never, never evolved to have the kind of communication that we have today.

00:56:41.000 We evolved to be in hunter-gratherer tribes of 100, 150.

00:56:45.000 And that was our local sexual marketplace.

00:56:48.000 That was who you knew everybody in your group.

00:56:50.000 You knew who the elders were.

00:56:52.000 You knew who the youngsters were and everything else.

00:56:54.000 And now we have this ability.

00:56:56.000 And I was just bringing this up with Mike Sartain because I'm 56.

00:56:59.000 Mike's 46.

00:57:01.000 Sterling Cooper's 36.

00:57:03.000 There's 10 years difference between all of this and I think Kyle's like 26.

00:57:09.000 I don't even think about So when chicks come up to me and go, oh, it's not appropriate for a 46-year-old to be with a 22-year-old girl. 1.00

00:57:19.000 I said, yeah, in the 20th century.

00:57:22.000 In the 21st century, we do things a little bit differently right now because we have this globalized community right now.

00:57:28.000 And if that's the way it works, then that's the way it works for them.

00:57:30.000 I just saw these stats.

00:57:32.000 Maybe you saw these stats, too.

00:57:33.000 It's like 63% of...

00:57:35.000 These are Gen Zers, right? 0.99

00:57:37.000 So 18 to 29% 63% of men, males of 18 to 29, they identify as being single.

00:57:47.000 Not in a relationship, but being single.

00:57:49.000 37% of women in that same demographic identify as being single.

00:57:54.000 So you're looking at at least 67% of those women Identify as being in a relationship, but they're not being in the relationship with their peers.

00:58:05.000 They would have to be at least 30 or more.

00:58:08.000 They would have to be outside of that, or else they're all fucking the same guy in 18 to 29, which might be the case.

00:58:15.000 So they're either dating older or they're dating the same guys in that same age cohort right there.

00:58:19.000 That is a direct result, once again, of the technology because now we have the, like when in human history did women have the ability to talk to, like a 22 year old, to talk to a 46 year old, like Kylie, which is Mike's girlfriend, 22, he's 46.

00:58:34.000 Yeah.

00:58:35.000 Where would that have ever happened?

00:58:37.000 And she's from like a part of the globalization that they would have never met.

00:58:40.000 Like it would have never happened.

00:58:41.000 And that comes back to like the whole, you know, the pill was just the beginning of like this whole, like you said, the sexual revolution.

00:58:48.000 But like, what is the sexual revolution exactly?

00:58:50.000 Well, it's the pill.

00:58:50.000 So now you don't have negative consequences for sex.

00:58:52.000 Now that that's taken out the way...

00:58:54.000 That's the social downstream effect.

00:58:56.000 Now we can go ahead and start focusing on like, okay, how are we going to meet?

00:58:59.000 What can you do?

00:59:00.000 How far can you go along the sides?

00:59:02.000 Because there's no negative consequence anymore.

00:59:03.000 And that comes back perfectly, actually, to this video that me and you were talking about before the show.

00:59:07.000 Let's pull this up real quick.

00:59:08.000 So this comes from...

00:59:10.000 One of the videos, this comes from Caller Daddy, right? 1.00

00:59:15.000 And this podcast is so stupid. 1.00

00:59:19.000 Look at that. 1.00

00:59:20.000 I love that capture right there.

00:59:22.000 Let's just play the video.

00:59:23.000 That's Gen Z right there. 0.84

00:59:25.000 And then we won't even read the caption yet.

00:59:27.000 We'll just play the video and then we'll go ahead and let that play.

00:59:30.000 So yeah, let's roll the clip.

01:00:05.000 They see me.

01:00:08.000 Yeah, they don't see the video.

01:00:11.000 Yeah.

01:00:12.000 I think they can hear it, but they can't see it.

01:00:14.000 Okay.

01:00:15.000 Hold on, guys.

01:00:16.000 Sorry about that.

01:00:17.000 We're going to fix it right now.

01:00:19.000 Bill's in the back right now.

01:00:20.000 Can y'all see it?

01:00:21.000 Okay.

01:00:21.000 Yeah, we're down the bottom there.

01:00:23.000 Okay.

01:00:23.000 Yeah.

01:00:23.000 Let's fuck it.

01:00:24.000 Just run it back. 1.00

01:00:25.000 Sorry about that chat.

01:00:26.000 We got y'all. 0.99

01:00:27.000 I know all of you at home watching this or listening are like, why the fuck? 0.99

01:00:32.000 Did you guys think that she looks the way she sounds, by the way? 1.00

01:00:39.000 Did she sound like a blonde? 1.00

01:00:41.000 Give me ones in the chat if she sounded like a bimbo blonde. 1.00

01:00:44.000 Okay, give me ones in the chat if you guys, like, literally the voice matches the fucking face. 0.99

01:00:49.000 Now that you guys actually see her, we can make fun with this. 0.99

01:00:52.000 So, yeah, this is fucking funny, man. 0.99

01:00:57.000 Give me ones if you guys believe, like, you know, if the voice matches the fucking looks. 0.99

01:01:01.000 All right, let's roll it. 0.99

01:01:09.000 I know all of you at home watching this or listening are like, why the fuck didn't I just go home? 0.94

01:01:14.000 And I still to this day can't fully articulate why I didn't leave, which sadly I think is so fucking relatable for women. 0.71

01:01:24.000 Why didn't you leave?

01:01:25.000 You were uncomfortable.

01:01:27.000 What did you think was going to change?

01:01:29.000 Why did you stay?

01:01:30.000 I think as backwards as it sounds, because of how uncomfortable and awkward it was with this person, I didn't know what to do other than stay and suck it up.

01:01:39.000 I didn't want to make the other person feel more uncomfortable, so I tried to appease the situation and make it better because staying and being miserable somehow felt easier than pissing someone off and getting in this fight and leaving and acknowledging how awkward it was.

01:01:57.000 And since he wasn't saying anything, I was not going to say anything.

01:01:59.000 Yeah.

01:02:00.000 I don't know.

01:02:01.000 Maybe only women will understand that, but it is confusing, and yet it's not confusing at all.

01:02:07.000 I feel like we've all been there, where we're like, I didn't really want to do that, or I wasn't really into it, but then I didn't know how to get myself out of the situation, and I'm in an apartment with these two men, and he had already been being snappy.

01:02:17.000 It was awful.

01:02:18.000 It was a bad situation.

01:02:21.000 Okay.

01:02:22.000 There you go.

01:02:23.000 And the girl, right?

01:02:24.000 And this is the girl that actually comments this.

01:02:26.000 Scroll down.

01:02:27.000 Let's look at the first comment.

01:02:29.000 And she goes...

01:02:30.000 Can you enlarge that for me, Bill, because I'm blind as hell?

01:02:35.000 I can kind of see it.

01:02:37.000 So, she goes, and this girl probably watches Fresh and Fit, bro, because this sounds too damn good.

01:02:42.000 Because I've said this before. 0.98

01:02:44.000 Women will say shit like this and wonder why the entire planet and every major religion has imposed strict social restrictions on their sovereignty since the dawn of time in every place humans have ever lived. 1.00

01:02:57.000 It's a meme phrase, but it's so true. 1.00

01:02:59.000 Women need authority. 1.00

01:03:01.000 They need protection from their worst impulses and from men who are dangerous and lecherous. 0.65

01:03:07.000 Lecherous.

01:03:07.000 I've never heard that term before.

01:03:09.000 Never heard that term before.

01:03:11.000 Is that even a word?

01:03:11.000 Yes, it is.

01:03:12.000 Oh, yeah.

01:03:13.000 It is a word?

01:03:13.000 Oh, yeah.

01:03:15.000 Creepy.

01:03:16.000 Lecherous.

01:03:16.000 Okay.

01:03:17.000 Creepy.

01:03:18.000 Lecherous.

01:03:18.000 And here's the thing that's scary, right?

01:03:22.000 Call Her Daddy, I would argue, is probably the most popular female podcast, right? 1.00

01:03:25.000 Is it still on Barstool?

01:03:28.000 Or did they leave?

01:03:29.000 Because I didn't know if they separated.

01:03:31.000 Can you fact check that for us, Bills?

01:03:33.000 Because I don't know.

01:03:34.000 I remember there used to be two chicks, and now I guess it's just Wonder Woman. 1.00

01:03:37.000 And here's the thing that's scary.

01:03:43.000 This girl can't make a concrete decision. 0.99

01:03:47.000 And I think this is like 60 years of female sovereignty. 1.00

01:03:49.000 This is where we are.

01:03:51.000 It's like they've had this sovereignty for such a long time.

01:03:54.000 Feminism is here, etc. 1.00

01:03:56.000 But when it comes to something as important as making mating decisions, they don't know what the fuck they're doing. 0.99

01:04:01.000 They can't make a decision, etc. 0.95

01:04:03.000 And this is a lot of times where the Me Too situation comes in.

01:04:05.000 Not to take it to a dark place, but...

01:04:08.000 These girls don't know what they're doing. 1.00

01:04:10.000 They hook up with a guy.

01:04:11.000 They weren't sure of it.

01:04:13.000 And then at the time they consented, but then they feel bad about it after.

01:04:16.000 Now it's regret.

01:04:17.000 And then they try to go ahead and insinuate that that's sexual assault or something.

01:04:22.000 And this is, I think, why every single religion in all different types of societies at the beginning of time, they've placed super strong barriers on female sexuality and sovereignty and, most importantly, also female hypergamy as well. 0.86

01:04:36.000 If you look at all the religions, Whether it's Christianity, Islam, whatever, it's like women were severely punished for exercising their hypergamy. 1.00

01:04:45.000 Oh, you want to go ahead and cheat? 0.97

01:04:48.000 Stoned. 0.98

01:04:48.000 In Christianity, in Islam, and I think in Judaism, a married woman committing adultery is punishable by death. 0.98

01:04:55.000 For men, too.

01:04:56.000 You have to remember why those proscriptions existed in the first place.

01:05:01.000 For men, in general, unless you're both white and the baby comes out black, You're not 100% sure if the baby's going to be yours. 0.71

01:05:12.000 So that's why we have institutions like marriage to ensure paternity for guys. 0.69

01:05:18.000 So that's why you're saying, well, if women practiced or were in any way granted some sort of unfettered freedom with hypergamy, The possibility that the child is not yours or you could get cuckolded is that much higher as a result of that.

01:05:35.000 Again, what technology?

01:05:38.000 Unfettered hypergamy.

01:05:39.000 Hormonal birth control.

01:05:41.000 Yep.

01:05:41.000 So when you look at certain, like, rituals and you look at certain, like, even prearranged marriages, for example, those prearranged marriages, the thing that gets me is every time I talk about marriage or, like, what's the purpose of marriage, Rolo?

01:05:55.000 It's because aristocrats and the noblemen wanted to, you know, form alliances back in Western Europe.

01:06:00.000 Yeah.

01:06:01.000 You know, wherever they were.

01:06:02.000 I'm like, no, dude.

01:06:03.000 Like, more than just rich, noble aristocrats in Europe got married. 0.99

01:06:07.000 Peasants got married every fucking day, okay? 0.98

01:06:10.000 So there must be something else just besides forming political alliances between Spain and France, okay? 0.99

01:06:16.000 So when we're talking- Yeah, at the highest levels, it was for alliances.

01:06:20.000 Well, what I do, the way that I look at marriage over the course of history is that it's a formalization of monogamy.

01:06:26.000 It's, this is, okay, you want to be monogamous to me?

01:06:28.000 I do.

01:06:29.000 Stabilizes society.

01:06:30.000 Okay, let's go get in front of all of our families and our friends and God himself, and we're going to make these vows.

01:06:35.000 And not only are our family and our friends and everybody that knows, I'm going to put this ring on you to say that, you know, this is official kind of thing.

01:06:43.000 Now, this is before there's, you know, this is before the state gets involved.

01:06:47.000 You know, we're talking in like medieval Europe and whatever.

01:06:52.000 Those marriages were really a formalization of monogamy. 0.98

01:06:58.000 There's no marriage certificates or anything, unless it was an official treaty between France and Spain or something like that.

01:07:06.000 It was just two peasants marrying.

01:07:07.000 There's no marriage certificates.

01:07:09.000 You got a ring?

01:07:10.000 Yes, that's my husband, that's my wife.

01:07:11.000 We all got married together on this particular day, and now we are officially man and wife.

01:07:17.000 Okay, so that's just simply a formalization because everybody agrees upon it and all your friends do.

01:07:23.000 And if one of you breaks that agreement, then you have this sort of social institution that's there to buffer between the man and the woman cheats.

01:07:32.000 You got your family and your friends and you got the church and everybody else involved.

01:07:36.000 To sort of keep you guys in line.

01:07:39.000 Now, that's one way of ensuring that the baby that comes out of that woman is the husband's baby that comes out of that woman, at least as best a policy as they can arrange at that time. 0.95

01:07:51.000 And then if you look at pre-arranged marriages, for example, And it stabilizes society, too. 0.99

01:07:55.000 Monogamy keeps men from doing crazy shit. 0.64

01:07:57.000 In the 21st century, I don't think that prearranged marriages are something that is tenable today, but I do understand why they've been a thing over the course of history. 0.98

01:08:07.000 And again, it wasn't, oh, I'm going to trade my daughter for 50 shekels and 30 heads of sheep or something like that.

01:08:14.000 It was more about, for instance, I'm the father of a daughter.

01:08:20.000 And if I wanted, if there's a formal, my son-in-law came to me before they were going to get married and he asked for permission to marry my daughter.

01:08:29.000 And of course, I'm Rola Tomasi, so I got to chew his ear off for two hours, right?

01:08:33.000 Of course.

01:08:33.000 So I said, do you know what you're asking me?

01:08:36.000 Of course, he thinks it's some sort of romantic gesture that he had to do because my daughter put him up to it or something like that.

01:08:41.000 So I said, I know you think this is just some sort of formality.

01:08:45.000 I said, but it's not.

01:08:45.000 I said, ask yourself what you're doing here.

01:08:48.000 Because there's a reason why a man asks the father of the bride for permission. 0.84

01:08:54.000 And it's not because she's a piece of property or anything like that.

01:08:57.000 It's because what that guy is asking you is, can I join my tribe with your tribe?

01:09:02.000 Can I join my clan with your clan?

01:09:05.000 Is my parents and my upbringing, my genealogy and everybody who's on my side of the wedding, are we going to all be cool?

01:09:14.000 Are we going to now have this sort of like mixed tribe together or this mixed clan or this mixed families together? 0.54

01:09:22.000 When a man and a woman get married and they get together, it's not just about the two individuals involved.

01:09:28.000 It's about any children that come out of that.

01:09:30.000 It's about two families.

01:09:31.000 It's about grandparents.

01:09:32.000 It's about great-grandparents.

01:09:34.000 It's about friends.

01:09:36.000 It's about so much more. 1.00

01:09:38.000 If you look at it, one marriage causes ripple effects and a cascade effect around those two people that affects the lives of everybody from the children to your fucking dogs, man. 1.00

01:09:47.000 I mean, everything. 0.99

01:09:49.000 And so I told him, I said, what you're asking me is, is my family cool enough to be with your family?

01:09:53.000 And the answer to that was yes at the time, of course.

01:09:56.000 So it's not just about, that's why when a couple eloped, that's why that was so frowned upon back then.

01:10:06.000 Because what it was, it was basically giving the finger to both sides of the family and say, we're going to go off and elope and we don't care what you have to say.

01:10:13.000 Because we don't care about the two families co-mingling and becoming one family as a result.

01:10:19.000 You know, I think the other thing, too, why arranged marriages were such a thing, and going back to female sovereignty when it comes to sexual autonomy, I think, controversial take, I think female sexual autonomy is a problem. 1.00

01:10:30.000 And the reason why is that women make really bad decisions with partners most of the time. 1.00

01:10:34.000 What do they look for when they're at their highest value and they're young and hot?

01:10:36.000 They want a bad boy that's good-looking, has a bunch of money, and, you know, commitment-phobe, right?

01:10:43.000 What'll end up happening is like her need for excitement overrides her need for security.

01:10:48.000 The roller coaster.

01:10:48.000 She needs the roller coaster.

01:10:50.000 Yeah.

01:10:50.000 And then as she gets older, that need for security goes up in priority.

01:10:53.000 But the problem is that her value is diminishing as she's looking for the security.

01:10:56.000 She's less able to get it. 0.94

01:10:57.000 She's less able to get it when she's younger and more attractive, less able to afterwards. 1.00

01:11:02.000 And this is why I say all the time, I think the father or at least a brother or an uncle, someone close to that woman needs to be involved in the mating process because the brother or one of these guys, like they don't have a sexual interest in her. 0.99

01:11:13.000 So they're going to be able to size that guy up and be like, no, this guy's fucking bad for you. 0.69

01:11:16.000 This guy is here in a Harley with a leather jacket. 1.00

01:11:19.000 He just wants to have sex with you and never take you seriously. 1.00

01:11:21.000 I'm here to protect you from yourself, you dumb bitch. 1.00

01:11:23.000 Make sure you don't make bad decisions. 1.00

01:11:24.000 I don't want you to lose value because if you lose value and you're not able to find a mate, I'm still responsible for you, right?

01:11:31.000 The dad...

01:11:32.000 That's why women never left the house. 1.00

01:11:34.000 The dad knew, if I don't marry her off, I'm going to be responsible for her.

01:11:38.000 So if I have to keep giving her resources and paying for this, well, I'm going to have a stake in who the hell she marries and who she gets involved with. 1.00

01:11:44.000 And then you can't finesse another dude because the guy's going to ask the real questions.

01:11:49.000 Hey, what do you do for work?

01:11:50.000 What are your plans?

01:11:51.000 Are you in school right now?

01:11:52.000 They're going to ask the real questions, whereas girls are going to kind of... 1.00

01:11:55.000 What do you do?

01:11:57.000 And then you get fooled.

01:11:58.000 Funny you should say fooled.

01:12:00.000 When I was doing the research work for my fourth book, Religion, I had to talk to a lot of people of different varieties of religions.

01:12:07.000 I talked to Muslims, I talked to Christians, I talked to Jews, I talked to Hindus, I talked to Sikhs.

01:12:13.000 I think if I was going to convert, if I was going to do anything other than what I do, I'd be a Sikh. 1.00

01:12:17.000 I would be a fucking Sikh. 0.99

01:12:19.000 Those guys got it going on. 1.00

01:12:24.000 Sorry, they'll never let you in.

01:12:26.000 Who are we talking about?

01:12:27.000 They'll never let you in.

01:12:28.000 It's the only one left to me.

01:12:30.000 Everybody's like, Tate went to be a Muslim and Rush got to be Eastern Orthodox.

01:12:36.000 I guess it's the Jews I'm left with. 1.00

01:12:37.000 I guess I'll have to go with that.

01:12:39.000 The yarmulkes are pretty cool.

01:12:40.000 Me and Eric Clary will just get together.

01:12:42.000 Well, he's already part of the yarmulkes crew.

01:12:46.000 What I was going to say is that I had to talk to these guys quite a bit.

01:12:50.000 A lot of the men in Islam, they line up exactly with what you're talking about.

01:12:57.000 That's why I said I understand the want for it because if you have an older man who understands the nature of men in general, for instance, I think it was Abu Amir, he was telling me He has sons and he has daughters. 0.99

01:13:15.000 He says, I don't want my sons to be with ugly bitches. 1.00

01:13:18.000 I'm going to find them good-looking women that I would want in my family. 1.00

01:13:22.000 He's making a family decision, not only that, but also to find out what the best interest of his son is, as well as his daughters. 0.96

01:13:31.000 He doesn't want his daughters to be with some bums or some fat dudes either.

01:13:34.000 He wants a guy who can work out. 0.87

01:13:35.000 He has good prospects and everything.

01:13:37.000 He's looking out for the best interest in an ideal world.

01:13:40.000 The father, a good father, a good patriarchal father is going to look out for the best interests of his sons and his daughters.

01:13:46.000 Absolutely.

01:13:47.000 And as a father of a daughter, I understand.

01:13:51.000 And I would argue with the daughter, it's even more important.

01:13:53.000 Because I look at women kind of like as glass. 0.99

01:13:56.000 What I mean by that is like...

01:13:58.000 They don't handle trauma well, right?

01:14:00.000 Like, they're not built to deal with trauma and they don't become sexier from dealing with trauma.

01:14:04.000 Scars on a man is good. 1.00

01:14:05.000 Scars on a woman are not fucking good. 0.98

01:14:07.000 And, like, if you shatter a piece of glass, right, or a glass cup, right, and then you try to put water, you tape it back and everything, you try to put water in it, it's always going to leak, right? 0.99

01:14:16.000 That's why I always say, like, girls that are former sex workers or girls that were, like, super promiscuous in the past, they'll never be good to you because... 1.00

01:14:22.000 Another OnlyFans.

01:14:23.000 Another technology that women are not prepared for. 1.00

01:14:26.000 Yeah.

01:14:27.000 They don't see the downstream, the long-term effects.

01:14:29.000 In fact, I don't.

01:14:30.000 Nobody does.

01:14:31.000 We've never seen this.

01:14:32.000 I mean, it's only been around...

01:14:33.000 I mean, it's only been popularized since about 2020.

01:14:36.000 My prediction is we're going to see...

01:14:38.000 In 20 years, we're going to see so many women tattooed, single, wrinkled, looking crazy... 1.00

01:14:45.000 Used to be OnlyFans chicks, used to be sex workers, used to be sugar babies, whatever it may be. 0.62

01:14:50.000 Because it's cool, so we're going to know who they are.

01:14:52.000 Because they're on the internet flying right now.

01:14:53.000 And the internet never hides anything.

01:14:55.000 You'll be able to find it.

01:14:56.000 And you're going to see, the past is going to come to haunt a lot of these girls, man. 0.99

01:15:00.000 And going back to what I was saying about the father being involved, etc., Like, this girl right here, she doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about. 0.98

01:15:08.000 Oh, well, I don't know this and that. 1.00

01:15:10.000 She's just a bunch of fucking word salad. 1.00

01:15:11.000 She couldn't, like, make a conclusive decision because, like, because the guy is clearly attractive, right? 0.99

01:15:18.000 But she knows he's not good for her to some degree, but she doesn't have the ability to, like, make a decision because there wasn't a man in there to help her with, like, figuring this out.

01:15:26.000 I'm sure you watched Tinder Swindler.

01:15:28.000 Oh, yeah, for sure.

01:15:29.000 You know what?

01:15:30.000 I watched that whole thing and I was just, like, beside myself.

01:15:33.000 I'm like...

01:15:34.000 Where is the main girl? 1.00

01:15:36.000 Like, where is the father?

01:15:38.000 Where is her brother?

01:15:39.000 Where is her uncle? 1.00

01:15:40.000 Where is a responsible adult male to say, no, bitch, you're not getting on this fucking airplane with this dude you just met 45 minutes ago on fucking Tinder. 1.00

01:15:51.000 He's smart. 1.00

01:15:51.000 He went after... 1.00

01:15:53.000 Women that were all in their epiphany phase. 1.00

01:15:56.000 Every single one of them, I think, were in their late 20s.

01:15:59.000 Yeah, they were all post-30s.

01:16:00.000 They were all post-30s?

01:16:00.000 Okay, I was thinking in my head they were either late 20s or in their 30s.

01:16:03.000 They were trying to look for the ship to come in. 1.00

01:16:05.000 Yeah, and when women, they could say whatever the fuck they want to say. 1.00

01:16:09.000 You guys, it was the Chad, right? 1.00

01:16:12.000 Multi-millionaire, etc., Jet, all this shit. 0.99

01:16:15.000 They're like, oh my god, finally it's here! 0.98

01:16:18.000 And let's be honest, a lot of these girls were probably 304s when they were younger, and they know they don't qualify for this type of guy, but they're like, oh my god, he's here.

01:16:25.000 That one girl took out nine bank loans for this guy. 1.00

01:16:28.000 After the first two, you're going to...

01:16:30.000 But when you get to the third one, where's dad?

01:16:35.000 Where's brother?

01:16:36.000 Where's a guy to step in?

01:16:38.000 And of course, I made this observation when the film came out and everything.

01:16:41.000 I was talking about it on my own show. 1.00

01:16:42.000 And women lost their fucking minds, man. 1.00

01:16:45.000 They were like, how dare you? 1.00

01:16:46.000 She can make her own decisions.

01:16:47.000 She isn't a man to come step in and do anything for her. 1.00

01:16:49.000 I'm like, the whole fucking show is about this guy taking this girl to the cleaner for fucking nine fucking bank loans. 1.00

01:16:57.000 And had one responsible dude, a friend, I don't care, some positively masculine motherfucker steps in and says, no, you're going to get killed if you go on this plane to go to, I don't know, Mykonos, where the fuck they were going, right? 1.00

01:17:12.000 And it's like nothing sat... 1.00

01:17:16.000 Wrong with her throughout the whole courtship or whatever it was.

01:17:20.000 Well, he did the whole thing with several other girls as well.

01:17:24.000 Probably still doing it today, right?

01:17:26.000 I think they want him in a couple countries.

01:17:28.000 Oh, I'm sure he is. 0.98

01:17:29.000 The guy's passing off bullshit like he's a Mossad agent. 0.99

01:17:32.000 He's a diamond merchant. 1.00

01:17:33.000 He's this.

01:17:34.000 He's that.

01:17:34.000 Whatever.

01:17:35.000 And I'm just like, where is the guy to step in and say... 1.00

01:17:38.000 What the fuck are you doing? 1.00

01:17:40.000 To say, no, I'm going to physically restrain you from going and getting on this private jet and flying off to who knows where to get sold into white slavery or whatever the fuck it is. 1.00

01:17:50.000 Where is the guy? 0.98

01:17:52.000 The answer is nowhere.

01:17:54.000 You know why no guy steps up?

01:17:55.000 Because we have acculturated and we have taught men and we have Yeah.

01:18:20.000 Oh, yeah.

01:18:21.000 There was a guy walking around punching women. 0.98

01:18:23.000 Crazy. 0.84

01:18:24.000 The one guy who steps in to defend women, he's the one that goes to jail because of the laws or whatever it is, right? 1.00

01:18:30.000 And so what happens is then women are losing their shit. 1.00

01:18:32.000 They're going, how come men aren't protecting us? 1.00

01:18:34.000 We're the protectors.

01:18:35.000 And so if a guy such as myself or you or anybody else says, women need men to watch out for them, to protect them. 0.74

01:18:42.000 You know what the snarky comeback is?

01:18:45.000 Protect them from who?

01:18:46.000 Other men?

01:18:48.000 Like, yeah. 0.98

01:18:49.000 You're 100% fucking right. 0.95

01:18:52.000 Protect them from other men. 1.00

01:18:53.000 Because if you don't, and of course, I'm the asshole and I go, protect you from yourselves. 1.00

01:18:58.000 That too. 0.99

01:19:00.000 Because you're going to have this cognitive dissonance between I don't need no man to protect me and oh my god, people are running around New York cold cocking random women and it's men's fault for not being masculine machismo men to come out and defend us.

01:19:18.000 Oh, here's one and he went to jail for a result of it.

01:19:20.000 So it's this Like I said, this cascade effect.

01:19:23.000 Leads to a lot of problems, man.

01:19:24.000 Exactly.

01:19:25.000 And all because of this sort of hubris and this idea that, well, it doesn't matter.

01:19:29.000 I can protect myself.

01:19:30.000 No, no, you can't.

01:19:32.000 And when you can't, who do you go to?

01:19:34.000 You go and say it's men's fault for not protecting it. 0.98

01:19:36.000 And here's what sucks even more.

01:19:38.000 Because I literally tweeted this and I said that this is a problem because this girl has a massive amount of influence. 1.00

01:19:42.000 People actually tune into this stupid podcast, right? 1.00

01:19:44.000 This brainless fucking podcast where they talk about being hoes. 1.00

01:19:48.000 And to me, I look at it like... 1.00

01:19:53.000 Okay, so the chat listens to her voice, right?

01:19:55.000 And they didn't see what she looked like. 0.98

01:19:58.000 Put her on screen, they're like, yep, sounded like what she fucking looked like, right? 1.00

01:20:03.000 Ridiculous. 0.99

01:20:04.000 But women watch that instead of watching Candace Owens. 1.00

01:20:07.000 Or they don't watch these women who I would consider are positive female role models. 1.00

01:20:11.000 They'd rather watch this stupid bimbo talk about, yeah, I hooked up with him, but I don't know. 1.00

01:20:16.000 Am I right? 1.00

01:20:17.000 Am I right, girls?

01:20:18.000 Am I right?

01:20:19.000 And all you're doing is you're perpetuating Female indecisiveness with very serious decisions. 0.93

01:20:26.000 You know what I mean? 0.97

01:20:26.000 Like, you can go ahead and put yourself in a very precarious, dangerous situation where you end up the victim of sexual assault, or you regret the sex after the fact, and then like, you know, now you're going ahead and making a bullshit me too accusation, no one believes you, whatever. 0.97

01:20:38.000 So it's like, The thing that's interesting is she will do this solo. 0.93

01:20:43.000 No one else.

01:20:44.000 She's just talking to the wind.

01:20:46.000 Or whoever's listening that she knows is going to listen to.

01:20:49.000 That was a bunch of words out, by the way.

01:20:50.000 She made no points and she has a podcast.

01:20:54.000 Isn't that scary?

01:20:55.000 Her brain is in a kernel panic.

01:20:57.000 She doesn't know which way to go with it because if she goes one direction, it contradicts going the decisions that she made for the other direction.

01:21:06.000 And so she's there trying to sort this out for herself and wondering why she's in this precarious...

01:21:11.000 And of course, it's all men's fault, right? 1.00

01:21:13.000 But the reason why she's having this is because she's trying to sort out cognitive dissonance for herself. 0.98

01:21:19.000 And there's one very simple cure for that.

01:21:21.000 You listen to dad.

01:21:22.000 You listen to your brother.

01:21:23.000 You listen, like, have somebody step in and make the decision for you.

01:21:27.000 Yeah, maybe it sucks, but maybe they're trying to protect you from yourself, which is exactly what I said, to protect you from yourself.

01:21:34.000 Yeah, absolutely. 0.87

01:21:35.000 And again, not because I'm trying to be a tyrant.

01:21:38.000 Or I got to have some iron control.

01:21:41.000 I'm this manipulating control freak.

01:21:43.000 It's like, no, I want the best for you.

01:21:46.000 I would say the same thing for my daughter.

01:21:48.000 I would say the same thing for my friends, my girlfriends, my girls that are on this show, girls that I know in general.

01:21:54.000 It's like, I want to help you Not because I'm trying to get in your pants or anything. 0.94

01:21:59.000 I don't want you to fucking have these consequences as a result of all of this. 0.89

01:22:04.000 Because it's a natural... 0.98

01:22:05.000 I would argue your brother, your dad, your uncle, if you're in a healthy family, grandfather.

01:22:12.000 These are masculine figures that have zero sexual interest in you.

01:22:16.000 So any advice they dispense is going to be 1,000% to your actual benefit. 1.00

01:22:19.000 Not your fucking guy friend. 1.00

01:22:21.000 Not your girlfriend's boyfriend. 1.00

01:22:23.000 No. 0.98

01:22:23.000 These guys actually give a fuck about you if you come from a healthy Exactly. 0.98

01:22:27.000 And if you have... 0.95

01:22:27.000 So, like, for instance, there's this... 0.95

01:22:29.000 Because they're going to deal with the consequences.

01:22:30.000 They got skin in the game.

01:22:31.000 You've probably heard of, like, mate guarding as a mate guarding behavior, right? 0.95

01:22:34.000 That's when a man and a woman, the guy's like, you know, wants to keep his bitch and, you know, doesn't want her to go out on him or anything like that. 1.00

01:22:41.000 Jealousy instinct, okay? 0.97

01:22:43.000 There's also paternal guarding.

01:22:45.000 For instance, I'm a father. 0.99

01:22:46.000 I don't want strange dudes coming in and fucking around or trying to put moves on my girl because I know what they're about. 0.99

01:22:55.000 I want a barrier put between the two of them. 0.99

01:22:59.000 It's paternal guarding.

01:23:00.000 Yes.

01:23:01.000 And then the same thing applies.

01:23:02.000 And it's really kin altruism is what it is.

01:23:05.000 But it's also in brothers as well.

01:23:07.000 So like my brother has two children.

01:23:09.000 He's got a boy and a girl. 1.00

01:23:10.000 And I see them, actually them both, protect the other from like, my niece will protect my nephew from like, don't get with that bitch because she looks like she's a slut. 1.00

01:23:20.000 And then there's How old are they dating itself? 1.00

01:23:22.000 Yeah, they're in their 20s.

01:23:25.000 And then my nephew, who is the brother or the sister, will do the same thing. 0.99

01:23:31.000 He would probably go kick someone's ass if there was some impropriety going on right there. 0.99

01:23:38.000 It should be. 1.00

01:23:40.000 And it's also an instinct.

01:23:42.000 It's an evolved instinct.

01:23:44.000 Why is that?

01:23:44.000 Because I don't want my daughter...

01:23:47.000 To have the baby of somebody else's baby, some other tribe's baby, some other clan's baby that I don't want to be associated with for the rest of my fucking life. 1.00

01:23:56.000 Because now we have this kid, we don't believe in abortion, and so therefore we're going to keep the kid. 0.98

01:24:00.000 And it hurts our abilities to get with the Klan that you might want in the future.

01:24:03.000 Right, exactly.

01:24:05.000 And so what you're doing is, it's really that kind of guarding, you can call it patriarchal, whatever you want, but it's a parental instinct, a parental instinct for guarding.

01:24:15.000 Well, mostly fathers and daughters, obviously, because women are the incubators of the next generation, right? 1.00

01:24:20.000 So, if an intruder comes in from outside, an outside tribe comes in, impregnates your daughter, and then takes off, well, now you have the burden of a daughter that, back then, of course, there's a stigma on the social side that goes to it, but now that becomes a resource drain for you as well.

01:24:38.000 So, now you have another child, and there's no...

01:24:41.000 It goes back to his tribe.

01:24:43.000 Because it used to be like the woman... 1.00

01:24:44.000 Was it ejaculate and evacuate? 0.98

01:24:46.000 Yes.

01:24:46.000 Because it used to be the daughter stays at home with the father and the family until she gets married, which I actually agree with.

01:24:51.000 I don't think women should live by themselves. 0.99

01:24:53.000 I think they should be living with their parents until they find a serious boyfriend. 0.99

01:24:56.000 At the rate we're going in this country, that shouldn't be too much of a problem.

01:24:59.000 Yeah.

01:25:00.000 Like, I really don't think they should be living alone. 0.99

01:25:02.000 Like, a guy, yeah, you go out there, get beat up, whatever the fuck. 0.99

01:25:04.000 Like, abuse is good. 0.99

01:25:05.000 Trauma is good for men. 1.00

01:25:06.000 Like, you need to fucking suffer. 1.00

01:25:07.000 But as women, I think women shouldn't be suffering. 1.00

01:25:09.000 They should never suffer at all.

01:25:10.000 There'll be a million people who are going to watch this and they'll go, oh, that Myron and that Rollo, they're old-fashioned.

01:25:15.000 They're these...

01:25:15.000 They're patriarchs.

01:25:17.000 They're control freaks. 0.94

01:25:18.000 They're manipulative.

01:25:18.000 And it's like, it doesn't come from a...

01:25:22.000 A motivation or an impulse for wanting to control.

01:25:26.000 It comes from wanting to protect, wanting the best for my family and my friends too. 0.99

01:25:33.000 Because again, I don't want any of the girls that I know as friends of the shows or something like that, if they're going through some bullshit like that that I can help them avoid, I'm going to help them because then I don't have to hear the bullshit. 0.97

01:25:42.000 Like, oh, I'm sorry. 1.00

01:25:44.000 Can you fuck me again? 1.00

01:25:45.000 I don't want to listen to that shit. 1.00

01:25:48.000 I got shit to do, right? 1.00

01:25:50.000 I like you, but don't make me fucking sort your shit out for you. 1.00

01:25:53.000 Well, it would help if you just simply would just do what I fucking said in the first place, or at least take my advice to heart. 0.99

01:25:59.000 They never do, man. 0.98

01:26:00.000 And it's not until it's too late and their values hurt.

01:26:03.000 That's why I just tell guys, like, man, just don't get what I was going to say.

01:26:09.000 Even us just having this conversation is misogynistic.

01:26:11.000 Oh, yeah, of course. 0.97

01:26:12.000 Oh, you're a massage. 0.98

01:26:13.000 You believe in masculine supremacy, right? 0.62

01:26:15.000 I mean, you and I are on a list, by the way.

01:26:17.000 I don't know if you know that.

01:26:19.000 We're on a list for...

01:26:19.000 Which one?

01:26:20.000 Well, it's for an NGO called Diverting Hate.

01:26:23.000 Oh, God.

01:26:24.000 And it is...

01:26:25.000 By the way, if you're paying taxes, you're actually paying to be delimited and blacklisted and shadow banned and have your traffic redirected to state-approved masculinity sites right now.

01:26:36.000 Well, there was a country, it was England or Australia, like, they're trying to make it a crime.

01:26:40.000 Oh, they already did.

01:26:42.000 The UK is...

01:26:43.000 It's the UK, right?

01:26:43.000 Her name is Yvette Cooper, and she just...

01:26:45.000 I don't know if it's on the books just yet, but she's proposing laws to prosecute people from even outside the UK, influencers that...

01:26:54.000 Whoever could that be?

01:26:55.000 Someone in Romania we know.

01:26:57.000 Oh my god.

01:26:58.000 But for extreme misogyny, right?

01:27:01.000 Whatever that is.

01:27:02.000 And of course, it's very ambiguously defined.

01:27:05.000 About two weeks ago, they put the proposal on the books that they can extradite influencers that in any way influence the civil unrest or whatever in the UK, which of course they were dealing with at that time, right? 0.75

01:27:17.000 So they want to say, well, if you're talking shit about us and you're in the United States or you're in another country and you're an influencer...

01:27:23.000 We have the right to extradite you and bring you into the country and prosecute you under our laws, which I don't know how they make that stick. 0.95

01:27:29.000 Yeah, because we have First Amendment laws here, freedom of speech.

01:27:32.000 So let me get this straight. 0.99

01:27:34.000 We broke your stupid foreign-ass laws, but we are still within the realms of our rights here. 1.00

01:27:39.000 A week later, Yvette Cooper, I believe she is the House Ministry. 1.00

01:27:42.000 She's in the ministry.

01:27:44.000 So England is doomed. 0.56

01:27:46.000 England is a failed nation.

01:27:48.000 And then she throws out the extreme misogyny thing, right? 0.94

01:27:51.000 Of course.

01:27:51.000 And of course, who's the poster boy?

01:27:53.000 Who's sitting right next to her picture?

01:27:55.000 Andrew Tate.

01:27:56.000 Of course.

01:27:58.000 And by the way, you and I are on that list as well.

01:28:00.000 And so is Pearl.

01:28:01.000 And so is MTR. I don't know how he got on.

01:28:03.000 Well, for all these guys.

01:28:05.000 Oh, the DHS thing.

01:28:05.000 The DHS thing.

01:28:07.000 Aaron Clary, how the fuck you got on this list? 1.00

01:28:09.000 I don't know, but apparently he's a menace to society. 0.99

01:28:16.000 Me, again, I don't know how Aaron made it on the list, quite honestly.

01:28:19.000 That's crazy.

01:28:20.000 But I'm on there.

01:28:21.000 MTR's on there.

01:28:21.000 Rich Cooper's on there.

01:28:22.000 You're on there.

01:28:24.000 Sandman is on there.

01:28:25.000 I have no idea how...

01:28:26.000 Honestly, I think they were just scooping up whoever the big names were at that time.

01:28:30.000 What they're doing is they're essentially through technology and through actually just like ad buys.

01:28:37.000 What they're doing is they're redirecting traffic.

01:28:39.000 If I look at my subs and I look at my actual views, I think I got 328 new subs in the month of July.

01:28:49.000 My watch time is in 4 million.

01:28:54.000 You know, four million minutes or whatever it is.

01:28:56.000 And then I'm looking at this and I go, there is no way those subs match up with my actual views.

01:29:02.000 Yeah.

01:29:03.000 And so there's only one more.

01:29:04.000 They're unsubscribing people.

01:29:05.000 Yeah, it's being manipulated.

01:29:07.000 They're definitely unsubscribing people.

01:29:08.000 Traffic's being manipulated.

01:29:09.000 You know, and it's crazy because, you know, I love how they try to paint Because what ends up happening is they try to paint sexism as misogyny.

01:29:18.000 I think sexism is good because sexism basically distinguishes that there's polarity between genders and we're different, right?

01:29:24.000 It's what keeps the bathroom separate. 1.00

01:29:26.000 So don't want to have weirdos abusing our little boys or little girls.

01:29:30.000 It's how we protect women from weirdo guys in sports that want to compete as women. 0.73

01:29:35.000 Nature and evolution has a sexist bias.

01:29:38.000 Yeah, like, sexism is a good thing. 1.00

01:29:40.000 It's just like, if I go ahead and I'm a gentleman to a woman, I pay for the bill, I treat her well, I pick her up, and I do, you know, I practice chivalry. 0.71

01:29:47.000 That is sexism. 1.00

01:29:48.000 But I find it interesting how they always look at sexism as, like, a negative thing.

01:29:52.000 I would argue sexism...

01:29:53.000 It's not sexism if it works in the girl's favor. 1.00

01:29:55.000 It works in your favor, then you're fucked. 1.00

01:29:58.000 When I think about it, sexism only benefits women. 1.00

01:30:01.000 Well, yeah, in the sense that it's like a negative thing, right?

01:30:05.000 I can't think of how sexism benefits them.

01:30:06.000 I don't think that there's necessarily anything really called sexism, quite honestly.

01:30:10.000 I think it's just like there are aspects of male.

01:30:14.000 There's no such thing as toxic masculinity either, right?

01:30:17.000 Yeah.

01:30:18.000 There's only masculinity.

01:30:21.000 And there is only the aspects of masculinity that are approved and complement the female imperative. 0.85

01:30:27.000 And then there's the parts that don't.

01:30:29.000 Anything that benefits a man exclusively, that's toxic. 0.99

01:30:33.000 But anything like when the floodwaters rise and you need somebody to save your ass off the top of a fucking roof, then suddenly masculinity is no longer toxic anymore. 0.99

01:30:41.000 Because it benefits the woman. 0.99

01:30:42.000 She stays alive.

01:30:43.000 It benefits the woman. 0.97

01:30:44.000 Oh, my hero. 0.99

01:30:46.000 But the thing is, when you're looking at those aspects of masculinity, the same masculinity that causes a guy or fireman to run into a burning building and save a baby is the same masculinity that those guys on Jackass have when they go and do stupid stunts.

01:31:01.000 I see these guys on Instagram where these guys jump off these huge cliffs into the water down below. 0.58

01:31:06.000 That takes some fun.

01:31:07.000 I don't see women doing that. 1.00

01:31:08.000 I only see men doing that and like, oh, well, this is why women live longer than men. 0.97

01:31:12.000 I'm like, no, that's because they're masculine.

01:31:15.000 You know why they can do it? 1.00

01:31:16.000 Because they can fucking do it. 1.00

01:31:17.000 That's why. 1.00

01:31:17.000 And they just want to do it. 1.00

01:31:18.000 That's the same masculinity that you need.

01:31:21.000 That same ballsiness to go in and save a baby out of a burning building as it is to jump off a cliff into some icy water.

01:31:27.000 You can't have one without the other, right? 1.00

01:31:29.000 I've heard idiot chicks on TikTok, right? 1.00

01:31:31.000 Is it crazy and stupid sometimes? 1.00

01:31:33.000 Yes, it is. 1.00

01:31:34.000 But at least accept the fact that that's male nature. 1.00

01:31:36.000 You have these stupid girls on TikTok. 1.00

01:31:38.000 TikTok literally just proves how stupid some of these girls are. 1.00

01:31:42.000 Dude's stupid. 1.00

01:31:42.000 The girls say ridiculous things. 1.00

01:31:43.000 And they'll say things like, well, I just want a guy that's like... 0.97

01:31:47.000 Pays for the bills, super masculine, goes to the gym, has a beard, but at the same time cries all the time, super in touch with his feelings, like, you know, can get dressed with me. 1.00

01:31:57.000 Like, it's like, you stupid bitch. 1.00

01:31:59.000 It's one or the other. 1.00

01:32:00.000 If you want a hyper-masculine guy, he's not going to sit there and watch The Notebook with you.

01:32:03.000 You want the perfect slave is what you want. 1.00

01:32:05.000 Fucking stupid. 1.00

01:32:06.000 Yeah, perfect slave. 1.00

01:32:07.000 You want the perfect slave. 1.00

01:32:08.000 Idiots. 1.00

01:32:08.000 Yo, do we got some ads to read or? 1.00

01:32:11.000 Okay.

01:32:12.000 No ads to read?

01:32:14.000 Yeah, go for it.

01:32:14.000 Yeah, we can read some of these chats.

01:32:22.000 I can't see.

01:32:23.000 Just pop it on the screen.

01:32:25.000 Can you pop it on the screen?

01:32:26.000 Yeah, pin it up.

01:32:28.000 Wait, what? 0.99

01:32:29.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:32:30.000 Okay. 1.00

01:32:30.000 Don't be mind, we got this fat nigga Mexican at the gym on the treadmill right now. 1.00

01:32:35.000 Nice. 1.00

01:32:35.000 Let's go. 1.00

01:32:36.000 Oh, yeah.

01:32:37.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:32:38.000 A cast club member came up.

01:32:39.000 I got him a gym membership.

01:32:40.000 Awesome.

01:32:43.000 What else we got here?

01:32:44.000 Oh, there he is.

01:32:45.000 Don't be mind for hooking up. 0.82

01:32:46.000 Noam with the year membership.

01:32:47.000 The rest of us OGs are going to help him and hold him and each other accountable.

01:32:52.000 Absolutely, bro.

01:32:52.000 You guys better.

01:32:53.000 He's fat as fuck. 1.00

01:32:53.000 I told him you got to go to the gym. 1.00

01:32:56.000 That's it?

01:32:56.000 Cool, there you go.

01:32:57.000 If you guys got questions for Olo, get them in.

01:33:00.000 Let's see here, how many we got live?

01:33:01.000 I can't even see.

01:33:03.000 I can't see.

01:33:07.000 42 between all the platforms?

01:33:08.000 Yeah, YouTube, Rumble.

01:33:11.000 Does Rumble give you all platforms?

01:33:12.000 That's cool.

01:33:15.000 Yeah, Rumble.

01:33:16.000 Yeah, we're on Rumble Studios. 1.00

01:33:17.000 Fuck, what am I doing? 0.99

01:33:18.000 Yeah, you need to be on here, man. 1.00

01:33:20.000 Need to be on here.

01:33:21.000 So we got a clip to play, actually.

01:33:22.000 So can you give us, like, the preface on this?

01:33:23.000 I'll give you the buildup.

01:33:24.000 Now, here's the thing is, this is going to be Chris Williamson here.

01:33:26.000 Now, anybody who watches my show understands my relationship with Chris Williamson.

01:33:32.000 Go ahead, take us through.

01:33:32.000 It's never really been anything, but let's just say icy to begin with.

01:33:38.000 Chris Williamson is interviewing...

01:33:40.000 What's her name there? 0.79

01:33:41.000 Amy something or other?

01:33:43.000 Whitney Cummings.

01:33:44.000 Whitney Cummings.

01:33:45.000 I guess Whitney Cummings is... 0.81

01:33:46.000 Who is this chick? 1.00

01:33:46.000 She's a comedian. 1.00

01:33:48.000 A comedian?

01:33:48.000 Yeah.

01:33:49.000 Female comedian. 0.71

01:33:50.000 Female comedian. 0.71

01:33:52.000 Everybody make the jokes.

01:33:53.000 Come on.

01:33:53.000 Give me the jokes.

01:33:54.000 Women are not funny. 1.00

01:33:55.000 Give me the jokes. 0.99

01:33:57.000 I can't think of a good female comedian. 1.00

01:33:59.000 Can you think of one?

01:34:02.000 Not of this generation.

01:34:04.000 There used to be some back in the day, but I don't think so much.

01:34:08.000 Joan Rivers might have been funny, but she's long gone.

01:34:11.000 I don't think the present crop of female comedians are really in any way. 1.00

01:34:16.000 Because they always have the same kind of shtick.

01:34:20.000 It's always like, hey, men, am I right?

01:34:22.000 Yeah, men, am I right? 1.00

01:34:23.000 Female comedians always just sexualize themselves in their whores, and they talk about their depressing sex life. 1.00

01:34:29.000 And Whitney Cummings is no exception to that role because she goes into a lot of the... 0.99

01:34:33.000 One of the things I notice about female comedians, especially when they get interviewed, they seem to be very kind of like... 1.00

01:34:41.000 They almost have that nervous fat guy laugh.

01:34:49.000 A conversation is always a stand-up bit.

01:34:53.000 We're having a conversation right now.

01:34:55.000 They would be trying to throw...

01:34:57.000 If we were to interview Matt Reif, he would be just talking to us like we are. 0.98

01:35:01.000 He'd probably be funny as fuck, but he wouldn't be trying to make us laugh. 1.00

01:35:05.000 Here's my theory of why female comedians suck and why women aren't funny. 1.00

01:35:11.000 It's shocking, but I'll tell you guys why. 0.99

01:35:14.000 Because they don't have to be.

01:35:15.000 That's true.

01:35:16.000 Yeah, that's funny because guys have to be humorous.

01:35:20.000 No guy ever says, I want my girl to be funny. 1.00

01:35:23.000 And like, dude, we'll go out with a fucking idiot on a date that literally does nothing but like, what's your hobbies? 1.00

01:35:31.000 That's true. 1.00

01:35:31.000 That is a female criteria, especially for a long-term relationship. 1.00

01:35:34.000 I need a guy who has a good sense of humor.

01:35:36.000 He makes me laugh. 1.00

01:35:38.000 Anytime a guy says, oh yeah, she's got to be cute and funny and all that, shut the fuck up, you fucking pussy. 1.00

01:35:44.000 Dudes are lying, right, Bills? 1.00

01:35:45.000 Come on, man.

01:35:46.000 Oh, I want her to be funny. 1.00

01:35:47.000 Shut up. 1.00

01:35:48.000 Shut the fuck up, you fucking liar. 1.00

01:35:51.000 I don't give a shit if she's funny because I don't find women funny at all. 1.00

01:35:54.000 And they don't have to be. 0.99

01:35:56.000 Dude, let's call it all the way honest.

01:35:58.000 You don't have to have a personality as a female. 1.00

01:36:00.000 You don't! 1.00

01:36:01.000 You fucking don't. 1.00

01:36:02.000 The hottest girls don't have personalities. 1.00

01:36:04.000 They don't.

01:36:04.000 It's nice when you discover that they do, but I don't expect it.

01:36:10.000 That's for sure.

01:36:10.000 I would say...

01:36:13.000 90% of really hot girls, I'm talking hot girls, hot girls, don't have a personality. 1.00

01:36:17.000 They don't need to.

01:36:19.000 If you're getting everything that you want in life...

01:36:21.000 Or it's a template personality.

01:36:23.000 It's like a cookie cutter.

01:36:24.000 It's like...

01:36:25.000 Yeah, this is what...

01:36:28.000 Exactly.

01:36:28.000 This is what...

01:36:30.000 You expected that voice.

01:36:33.000 You expected that voice and that attitude.

01:36:35.000 Hilarious.

01:36:36.000 They heard her voice only.

01:36:37.000 I put her on screen.

01:36:38.000 Yep, that's what I thought she would look like. 0.96

01:36:39.000 What does that tell you?

01:36:41.000 This is what I mean.

01:36:42.000 Hot girls or attractive girls don't have to have personalities and be funny and interesting because they don't have to. 1.00

01:36:47.000 If you've gotten everything that you wanted, like, oh yeah, I get laid every day by a hot girl and I got a bunch of money and shit like that, but I never had to develop myself.

01:36:55.000 Why am I going to go to the gym or learn stand-up or learn how to be interesting?

01:36:59.000 Like, no.

01:36:59.000 It motivates you.

01:37:00.000 Sex is a motivator. 0.98

01:37:02.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:37:02.000 Guys who don't fuck have to find some way to fuck, right? 1.00

01:37:06.000 And so therefore, they've got to find some sort of value added. 1.00

01:37:08.000 I genuinely believe sex is the reason why we have these nice cameras, all these buildings in the fucking background. 0.99

01:37:15.000 Absolutely. 0.99

01:37:18.000 They don't need to.

01:37:19.000 There's no need to.

01:37:20.000 Yeah, dude.

01:37:21.000 They don't do nothing. 1.00

01:37:21.000 They just fucking sit there and barely make a fucking sandwich in 2024. 1.00

01:37:26.000 Useless. 1.00

01:37:26.000 Dude. 1.00

01:37:27.000 And the best chefs are men, too.

01:37:29.000 They've Who made the software so that they could have OnlyFans?

01:37:35.000 A dude.

01:37:36.000 Why?

01:37:37.000 Because that guy wanted to get laid. 0.99

01:37:39.000 Yeah, man. 1.00

01:37:39.000 It's like all the human innovation that we see was so dudes could get their fucking dicks wet. 1.00

01:37:44.000 I'll tell you what's funny. 1.00

01:37:45.000 This is the funniest fucking thing. 0.98

01:37:47.000 I was on Access Vegas like two weeks ago, and I brought up this point to Mike Sartain. 0.98

01:37:53.000 I said, any new technology, especially when it comes to media technology, The success or the failure of that technology is how it is applied to pornography.

01:38:04.000 How it is applied to this human sexual response, right?

01:38:07.000 So, if you go back and you look at, say, VHS and Beta, the reason why VHS won out is because more porn was shot and recorded to VHS than it was to Beta, right?

01:38:17.000 Bill, have that timestamp because we'll have to probably clean that part up.

01:38:20.000 You already got it? 0.98

01:38:21.000 All right, because I've been talking a lot of shit this stream. 0.97

01:38:23.000 We've got to clean it up. 0.99

01:38:24.000 And if you look at, say, old school photography, like one with black and white with a big old flash thing that would come up like that, the first images they shot was naked chicks or guys getting their dicks sucked by their wife or their girlfriend, right? 0.99

01:38:36.000 Or if you go back in time to like the... 0.99

01:38:39.000 You know about...

01:38:41.000 Like Leonardo da Vinci and Michelangelo, all the Ninja Turtles, right?

01:38:45.000 Leonardo and all that good stuff.

01:38:46.000 We know about those famous guys, right?

01:38:48.000 But what you don't know about is all the other painters whose names you don't need or lost to history who were painting chicks with big hooters and, you know, it was, oh, it's the Madonna and the child.

01:38:59.000 No, it's like a tit.

01:39:00.000 This is what it is, okay?

01:39:01.000 And you go back to, like, Greco-Roman statuary.

01:39:04.000 Maybe they were gay, but they were still, like, you know, doing very realistic, you know, sculptures as far back as, like, you know, Athenian Greece, right? 0.96

01:39:12.000 And so you go all the way back and pretty much all the way back to, like, cave drawings, like, you know, cavemen on the case.

01:39:19.000 And somebody sent me This image of this picture.

01:39:22.000 They just discovered this in Germany or some cave somewhere.

01:39:27.000 And it's basically some chick that's bent over. 1.00

01:39:29.000 And you have a face down, ass up. 1.00

01:39:32.000 And it's like one guy fucking this chick doggy style in a cave painting. 1.00

01:39:36.000 And I go, see? 1.00

01:39:37.000 Justification!

01:39:38.000 I'm right! 0.99

01:39:39.000 Even the technology of cave painting was used for fucking early pornography. 0.99

01:39:43.000 That's crazy, bro. 0.99

01:39:45.000 And you're right.

01:39:46.000 I think you're right.

01:39:46.000 I think the reason why we have innovation, the reason why we have cameras, the reason why we have the technology base that we have, all but my men who wanted to get laid.

01:39:55.000 Yeah, and this is why men are better than women at everything. 1.00

01:39:57.000 It's because we have the motivation.

01:40:00.000 We have to be.

01:40:01.000 We're better chefs than them.

01:40:03.000 Was it Kevin Hartman who said if a man could get laid in a cardboard box, he'd never buy a house?

01:40:10.000 Facts!

01:40:11.000 That's why!

01:40:12.000 It's facts, man.

01:40:13.000 Like, all the nice things that you see here.

01:40:14.000 Luxury. 1.00

01:40:15.000 Like, dudes don't give a fuck about none of that shit. 1.00

01:40:17.000 That was so funny. 1.00

01:40:18.000 It's to get laid, man.

01:40:18.000 Like, yeah, man.

01:40:19.000 Well, let me give you the setup for Chris.

01:40:21.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:40:22.000 He's interviewing this female comedian.

01:40:24.000 The comedian, yeah, who's not funny.

01:40:25.000 We've agreed.

01:40:25.000 Not funny.

01:40:26.000 Okay.

01:40:26.000 But the thing is, and neither is Chris Williams.

01:40:29.000 The thing that I'm getting right now, and I'm sure you're probably, like, we've been doing this for quite some time.

01:40:33.000 Like, you've been doing it for about three years now.

01:40:35.000 We're going almost in force, surprisingly.

01:40:37.000 You've been doing it for 20 years.

01:40:38.000 Yeah.

01:40:39.000 Fresh and Fit's been around since, as far as I know, January of 2021, right?

01:40:44.000 2020.

01:40:45.000 2020.

01:40:45.000 Yeah.

01:40:46.000 End of 2020, that's why. 0.98

01:40:47.000 And so I think you and I have both seen sort of the paradigm shift in the Red Pill and the Manosphere over the course of just three fucking years. 0.98

01:40:55.000 Oh, yeah. 0.55

01:40:56.000 And it's exactly what I was telling you guys on March of 2021 when you guys asked me, is the red pill going mainstream?

01:41:03.000 And what was my answer?

01:41:05.000 I hope not.

01:41:06.000 And I didn't say it wouldn't, but I said, I hope it didn't because you're going to have a lot of people and a lot of these bad actors who are going to come in and they're going to either like I don't think we've said anything that's really over-the-top crazy or anything like that.

01:41:29.000 And you know what? 1.00

01:41:29.000 This is the show none of these sons of bitches will watch because they're looking for the show where you say it's gay to eat pussy. 1.00

01:41:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:41:37.000 That's what they want.

01:41:38.000 That's the clip, right?

01:41:39.000 That's what they want to fixate on, right?

01:41:42.000 And so what happens is I got these guys and I'm looking at like some of these influencers.

01:41:46.000 That's what this clip is going to be.

01:41:47.000 Now, if I look at Chris Williamson, Chris Williamson at one point when he was at 500,000 subs, he did this like celebration, you know, Q&A, AMA on his channel.

01:41:58.000 And everybody in that fucking damn near everybody in that stream said, you need to get Rolo on the show.

01:42:04.000 Really? 0.98

01:42:04.000 Right back then. 0.98

01:42:05.000 It's about...

01:42:06.000 Two years ago?

01:42:07.000 Three years ago?

01:42:08.000 Yeah, it was before he got him.

01:42:09.000 He hit a million.

01:42:10.000 It was a halfway to a million mark, right?

01:42:11.000 And, of course, his answer was, well, I was thinking about it, but he seems so gleeful, and he seems like he's...

01:42:16.000 Gleeful?

01:42:16.000 Yeah, like, I'm happy about, like, the stuff that I'm throwing out.

01:42:20.000 Like, I'm in some way negatively...

01:42:31.000 We're good to go.

01:42:40.000 He is, I mean, anybody.

01:42:42.000 He will take anybody except for me and anybody except for you.

01:42:45.000 He's yet to have you on there as well. 0.99

01:42:46.000 But that doesn't preempt them from talking shit about us, either indirectly or directly, and say, oh, it's those red pill poets, these horrible... 0.99

01:42:55.000 By the way, you and I are degenerates. 0.99

01:42:57.000 I didn't know if you knew. 0.95

01:42:57.000 We are degenerates right now. 0.95

01:42:59.000 We are the degenerates. 0.75

01:43:01.000 Let's see the clip.

01:43:02.000 Watch the clip right here to get an idea of what I'm talking about.

01:43:09.000 How many podcasts are owned by Spotify or bought by Spotify?

01:43:13.000 I can hear it.

01:43:20.000 Alright guys, we're going to play it so we can hear it on our end.

01:43:23.000 I've never seen this clip before.

01:43:26.000 So Rolo is... 0.97

01:43:36.000 It's girl talk with fucking Cindy and Lindsay, and all they do is talk about their one-night stands and what happened, blah, blah, and this is the position that I like, and if you tried it to do this way, I know of no, even the most degen, autist, 0.98

01:43:52.000 red pill, manosphere podcast. 0.99

01:43:54.000 Do not get to that.

01:43:55.000 There was a brief period where...

01:43:59.000 There was like this odd campaign where going down on girls is gay was like a sort of movement that was being pushed by it.

01:44:07.000 Why?

01:44:08.000 Because it's like sub or something?

01:44:09.000 Yeah, kind of.

01:44:10.000 Serving the woman.

01:44:10.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:44:12.000 Beyond that... 1.00

01:44:13.000 It's like sucking her dick or something? 1.00

01:44:16.000 Yeah, kind of. 1.00

01:44:16.000 I honestly think that was it. 1.00

01:44:18.000 Going out on trans girls, maybe, for sure. 1.00

01:44:21.000 I do want to say, I've never said that it was gay.

01:44:23.000 Before you get started here, is there still a movement? 0.99

01:44:28.000 Because that sounds like a big fucking deal. 0.76

01:44:30.000 Did we get a Discord server for this? 0.99

01:44:33.000 Did we get fucking... 0.96

01:44:34.000 Let's see, do we have a module class with videos to show... 0.96

01:44:39.000 Because it sounds like it's very important. 0.96

01:44:40.000 There's a lot of people in this movement that are fucking doing this. 0.99

01:44:44.000 And I don't know who they're talking about because there are other guys in Red Pill that I think have said that it's gay. 0.99

01:44:48.000 But for me, I never said that it was gay.

01:44:51.000 I mean, it's quite the opposite, actually.

01:44:53.000 You and I have had this conversation before.

01:44:55.000 I disagree.

01:44:56.000 I think going down on a woman is just fine. 1.00

01:44:58.000 But that's the thing is...

01:45:00.000 They don't know that. 1.00

01:45:01.000 They don't watch this shit. 1.00

01:45:02.000 All they do is hear one fucking clip from someone. 1.00

01:45:05.000 Or they hear from someone else and I assume we all think that. 1.00

01:45:07.000 I guess we agree on a lot of things.

01:45:09.000 My thing is why I don't eat box and why I don't think guys should do it is because it puts you in a subservient position to someone who's inferior to you, which is a female. 1.00

01:45:18.000 You mentioned that probably like once or twice on a show or something.

01:45:23.000 It's a movement.

01:45:24.000 We're degenerates. 0.95

01:45:26.000 Holy mother of God. 0.95

01:45:28.000 We better watch out for those red pill guys.

01:45:30.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to keep my teeth clean, man. 0.97

01:45:33.000 But no, I think the problem with it isn't necessarily that it's gay or something like that.

01:45:40.000 No, I think the symbolism and the woman...

01:45:44.000 Because I generally believe this is my take on this.

01:45:49.000 Sex is a woman's duty, right? 1.00

01:45:51.000 And a man's duty is to provide for his woman. 0.99

01:45:54.000 So in other words, right...

01:45:56.000 It's your job to get a job and provide for your girl.

01:46:00.000 If she wants to get a job and provide electively and make a little bit of money for herself and keep it for herself, that's on her. 1.00

01:46:06.000 But it is not her duty to give you money to pay the bills.

01:46:11.000 That's on you.

01:46:12.000 And if she wants to work, it's elective.

01:46:14.000 Same thing.

01:46:15.000 Then I go ahead and I take that logic and apply.

01:46:17.000 Because when I say that to women, I'm like, yeah!

01:46:19.000 Woo, yeah! 0.92

01:46:20.000 If I work, it's my money.

01:46:21.000 If you work, it's our money. 1.00

01:46:22.000 Okay, dumb bitch. 1.00

01:46:23.000 Well, it goes both ways. 1.00

01:46:24.000 Because here's a functional equivalent. 0.98

01:46:27.000 If I want sex, I bust a nut. 0.99

01:46:30.000 Well, that's what matters. 0.99

01:46:31.000 Last time I checked, we need to have me bust the nut to have kids, not you. 1.00

01:46:36.000 So your job is to please me sexually. 0.98

01:46:38.000 And if I choose to electively get you to nut, then cool. 0.98

01:46:41.000 I don't have to, though. 0.97

01:46:43.000 And that's how I look at sex with men versus providing.

01:46:45.000 And when I say this, they're like...

01:46:48.000 They can't argue with it because you can't sit there and be like, well, yeah, I want to be able to work electively or not work at all.

01:46:53.000 So you're looking at it from like just a logistical, like a logical perspective because you're making a comparison between like making money providing in one realm and then you're taking the logic from that realm and you're putting it into the sexual realm is what you're doing.

01:47:10.000 I'm giving a functional equivalent because like with since like because we there's no movie there's no t-shirt because i missed the t-shirt about don't eat pussy uh oh yeah what was it we have like mo no not november so we should have let's see uh you know no no cunnilingus yeah june or so yeah and here's the thing like when i say this right obviously i'm saying this like somewhat sarcastically right like like as a guy if it's your main girl like you should you know want to make her come right if it's your main girl if it's some random bimbo then that But if it's like your 0.96

01:47:40.000 main girl... 1.00

01:47:41.000 No kitty, April.

01:47:42.000 Yeah, you should do it.

01:47:45.000 But honestly speaking, and the reason why I say this too, and you're going to agree with me on this, because it's a self-fulfilling prophecy, is that If you get off, a lot of times girls get off on you getting off. 0.97

01:47:57.000 If she actually likes you, and you don't have to do all this extra shit.

01:48:00.000 If she actually has burning genuine desires, you say all the time, she's going to get off more on you getting off because that's her validation, is being able to get you off as the guy if she truly likes you. 1.00

01:48:10.000 Now, if you're a fucking loser and shit, and she don't like you like that, yeah, you're going to have to eat her box and do all this other disgusting shit because she don't like you that much. 1.00

01:48:17.000 You've got to make up for lost ground, fat boy. 1.00

01:48:19.000 When you and I... When you and I... It's true. 0.98

01:48:24.000 It's always the fat niggas that eat box, right? 1.00

01:48:26.000 It's always the ugly, fat motherfuckers that are the grossest. 1.00

01:48:31.000 Because they have to be. 1.00

01:48:32.000 They have to do the weird shit. 1.00

01:48:34.000 Right? 1.00

01:48:35.000 They have to.

01:48:35.000 Let's be honest here.

01:48:36.000 A nigga like me, I don't do these sit-ups to sit up and lick your dirty ass box. 1.00

01:48:41.000 Fuck you, bitch! 1.00

01:48:42.000 I'm in the gym grinding. 1.00

01:48:44.000 I'm at work making a bunch of money. 1.00

01:48:46.000 What the fuck do I look like getting on my knees and licking your dirty fucking vagina, you stupid bitch? 1.00

01:48:50.000 I don't care if you're my wife. 1.00

01:48:52.000 No! 1.00

01:48:53.000 It's fucking disgusting. 1.00

01:48:54.000 This is a Muslim thing. 1.00

01:48:56.000 Nah, I just can't do it.

01:48:59.000 I just can't do it.

01:49:00.000 The last time I ate a box, I remember it was like May 15th of 2013. 0.98

01:49:04.000 Fucking terrible. 0.97

01:49:05.000 Yeah, like 11 years ago, bro. 0.99

01:49:06.000 Oh my god.

01:49:07.000 Never again. 1.00

01:49:08.000 Disgusting. 1.00

01:49:09.000 And again, as the man, you don't go to the gym, make this money, become successful to put your head in between a woman's legs. 1.00

01:49:16.000 Fuck that. 1.00

01:49:17.000 You're the man. 1.00

01:49:17.000 You're the leader. 1.00

01:49:18.000 You're the superior.

01:49:19.000 I'm the supreme leader. 0.97

01:49:20.000 When you and I had this conversation last time, and I told you this, I said, because we were talking about, I think we were talking about female orgasm or something. 0.97

01:49:28.000 What's the purpose of female orgasm? 1.00

01:49:29.000 Pointless! 0.99

01:49:30.000 Pointless! 1.00

01:49:31.000 Fucking pointless, bro. 1.00

01:49:33.000 Fucking pointless. 1.00

01:49:34.000 From an evolutionary psychology perspective, it's a mate retention process. 0.99

01:49:40.000 Behavior is what it is.

01:49:41.000 Yeah, to a degree.

01:49:42.000 Also, going down on your girl or the girl giving you head is also mate retention.

01:49:47.000 Yeah.

01:49:47.000 Because if the girl really likes you, has genuine burning desire for you, right?

01:49:51.000 Yeah.

01:49:51.000 But she is, say it's shark week, right?

01:49:54.000 She's on a rag.

01:49:55.000 She gives you head. 0.99

01:49:56.000 It's usually to keep you interested enough to have sex with you so that when she's not on shark week that the possibility of you inseminating her is higher. 0.99

01:50:04.000 Yeah. 0.82

01:50:05.000 Now, this is theoretical.

01:50:06.000 This is what I've read from, was it Rob Henderson and Steve Stewart Williams, okay?

01:50:10.000 So these are just like hypothetical studies, right?

01:50:13.000 Yeah.

01:50:13.000 So they're trying to say, okay, if a behavior exists, whether it's sexual or not, but if a behavior exists, that's the praxeology of the red pill, okay?

01:50:23.000 Write down these types of studies, Bill.

01:50:25.000 So, praxeologically speaking, there has to be, if a human being is engaged in a particular behavior, there's probably a function for it.

01:50:32.000 They're not just randomly doing it, right?

01:50:34.000 Usually, it's survival or it's reproduction.

01:50:36.000 In this case, obviously, it's reproduction, right?

01:50:38.000 So, what getting head is, or eating kitty is, is a mate retention process. 1.00

01:50:44.000 And so when you say, well, fat guys eat pussy, you're probably right in that sense. 1.00

01:50:49.000 I would say that maybe there's more of a predisposition for guys who are lower value to eat pussy because if they do and they get the girl off, then that girl has the oxytocin flush after orgasm and everything and probably says, okay, well, he eats pussy pretty good. 1.00

01:51:01.000 What else has he got going on? 1.00

01:51:03.000 And here's other things, too, I will say. 0.97

01:51:04.000 Obviously, I'm being funny here and making some jokes and shit, trying to keep myself awake because I'm delirious. 0.99

01:51:09.000 But what I will say also that's really important, what I've noticed is the nastiest guys, whether they're doing things with the butt or vagina or whatever, the nastiest dudes, They're almost always lower sexual market value. 0.99

01:51:24.000 Almost always. 1.00

01:51:25.000 Of course you're going to get guys in there that are chads and got their shit together or whatever that still do that weird shit, but hyper-masculine dominant men that are attractive and have options don't do that shit, bro. 1.00

01:51:36.000 There's a difference between doing something to a girl and then doing it like you're right there in the moment doing it. 0.99

01:51:45.000 It's guys who have something to prove.

01:51:49.000 You know what I mean?

01:51:50.000 There's a qualifiable difference. 1.00

01:51:51.000 If you've got a guy who's into nasty stuff, that guy might be doing it to go, I'm going to do it to this bitch. 1.00

01:51:56.000 Or else it's like, I'm really into this and I really like doing this. 0.99

01:51:59.000 When I say nasty, sorry, my bad.

01:52:01.000 I meant to say, let me be clear.

01:52:03.000 I didn't say that.

01:52:04.000 Explain that.

01:52:04.000 When I meant nasty guys, they'll do something that's nasty and compromises them.

01:52:11.000 Yes. 1.00

01:52:11.000 Like eating vagina, eating ass, doing some weird shit like that. 1.00

01:52:15.000 I've noticed guys that typically do that weird shit, they have low sexual market value. 1.00

01:52:19.000 They're either ugly, weird, they smell, they don't make money. 1.00

01:52:24.000 Something is wrong with them a lot of the times. 0.97

01:52:25.000 And what ends up happening, not only something wrong with them, something is significantly or severely lacking.

01:52:33.000 So their sexual skill becomes a value-added value.

01:52:37.000 Precisely.

01:52:39.000 Precisely.

01:53:08.000 No one's going to listen to this whatsoever.

01:53:09.000 No, they won't.

01:53:10.000 They won't.

01:53:11.000 I'm just saying in a craft manner and you start in a way more professional manner. 1.00

01:53:15.000 Low SMV guys do stupid shit to keep girls around. 1.00

01:53:19.000 Whether it's simping and buying them handbags or licking box or all the above. 1.00

01:53:24.000 The nastiest men that I've seen, they typically have something significantly wrong. 1.00

01:53:30.000 They're really fat. 1.00

01:53:31.000 They're ugly. 1.00

01:53:32.000 They're really broke. 1.00

01:53:33.000 So they have to do weird shit like that. 0.98

01:53:34.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:53:35.000 And then the women use them. 1.00

01:53:37.000 There's this whole epidemic where women just use guys to lick their vagina. 1.00

01:53:44.000 That's it. 1.00

01:53:45.000 And dudes are okay with that. 0.99

01:53:47.000 That's fucking unacceptable. 0.99

01:53:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:53:50.000 I'll tell you, the interesting thing is I know so many porn stars right now.

01:53:56.000 I know so many OnlyFans girls. 1.00

01:53:57.000 I know strippers. 1.00

01:53:58.000 I know FHM models.

01:54:01.000 I know Maxim girls. 1.00

01:54:03.000 It's Vegas, right?

01:54:05.000 And I understand a lot of these girls will tell me stuff like they do financial domination or they'll do foot fetish stuff. 1.00

01:54:15.000 And I'm like, what the fuck is foot fetish stuff? 0.96

01:54:18.000 And it's dirt simple for girls to do and they make money hand over fist. 1.00

01:54:22.000 I'm like, what motherfucker is paying to look at your feet with a fucking high heel shoe hanging off of it? 1.00

01:54:27.000 Just jerking off to that. 1.00

01:54:29.000 And so I'm looking at this and I'm going, where does this come from, first of all? 0.99

01:54:35.000 I hate feet. 1.00

01:54:36.000 And then it made me realize, I like fucking my wife for the last 20-something. 1.00

01:54:42.000 I'll go down. 1.00

01:54:43.000 I love going down.

01:54:44.000 I like getting it.

01:54:45.000 And I like lingerie.

01:54:46.000 That's it.

01:54:48.000 I'm vanilla.

01:54:49.000 Yeah, me too.

01:54:50.000 I'm vanilla too. 1.00

01:54:52.000 I'm like, what the fuck? 1.00

01:54:53.000 Do I have to like feet? 1.00

01:54:55.000 Do I have to want to be put in a fucking dog cage? 1.00

01:54:58.000 Do I want to be strung out on some fucking ex-crucified Conan? 1.00

01:55:06.000 I'm like, what the fuck is this? 1.00

01:55:07.000 And again, it's low-value guys trying to do mate retention and trying to prove that they have some sort of value added as a result of being into this weird shit. 1.00

01:55:19.000 And it's like, oh, well, if it's some sort of like... 0.97

01:55:22.000 Esoteric refinery or something like, oh, it's fine wine. 0.97

01:55:26.000 I like shoes and I like watching girls walk around in little teeny tiny feet or some shit like that. 1.00

01:55:31.000 It's weird, man. 1.00

01:55:32.000 And these fucking weirdos, the problem with these guys is, right, they come into the sexual marketplace and they do this stupid shit. 1.00

01:55:39.000 And what ends up happening is This is why so many women don't respect the majority of men, dude. 1.00

01:55:44.000 Yeah.

01:55:45.000 It really is.

01:55:46.000 And then you look at girls that are sex workers. 1.00

01:55:49.000 A lot of them hate men. 0.97

01:55:51.000 Rightfully so, by the way.

01:55:52.000 What were we saying in the beginning?

01:55:52.000 I'd hate them too.

01:55:53.000 What we were saying in the beginning, why do women have to get into OnlyFans? 0.91

01:55:56.000 Why do they have to get the bag?

01:55:58.000 Why do they have to get the education? 1.00

01:56:00.000 Because men ain't shit. 1.00

01:56:01.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:56:02.000 Because men can't provide long-term security. 1.00

01:56:04.000 And then the very men that they deal with Right.

01:56:16.000 Mm-hmm.

01:56:22.000 So, do we have a...

01:56:23.000 Oh, we'll go back to the video.

01:56:25.000 I was going to say...

01:56:25.000 You don't have to go back to it.

01:56:26.000 I just want to point out the fact that...

01:56:28.000 Oh, that was it?

01:56:29.000 Yeah, it was just basically what I wanted.

01:56:30.000 I wanted to point out the fact that we've got...

01:56:32.000 Well, just the mistake of lumping us into some sort of...

01:56:39.000 I think there's a lot of people in the manosphere right now and in red pill spaces right now who are just simply bad actors who...

01:56:46.000 They, like, for instance, like, I've seen...

01:56:48.000 And it's very...

01:56:49.000 Here's the thing, too, like, with Chris Williamson, because I met him in person.

01:56:51.000 I hung out with him in Miami one time, and I'm really, like, disappointed that, like, you know, he's going to put everybody, like, in this box. 0.71

01:56:57.000 It's like, dude, interview the fucking top guys in the sphere, then come to these conclusions.

01:57:01.000 Like, don't, you know, make a blanket statements like this. 0.99

01:57:04.000 Like, oh, yeah, you know, they're fucking talking about this.

01:57:07.000 And by the way, he's not the only one that does this, but he's got a big platform for it. 0.98

01:57:12.000 You talk about intersexual dynamics all the time. 0.99

01:57:15.000 It's like, bring the top guys that talk about the shit. 1.00

01:57:17.000 Me, you, tape bros, whatever it is. 0.99

01:57:20.000 If you're going to have a guy like Destiny on your show and say, what do you think of the red pill?

01:57:24.000 Oh, I think it's dead.

01:57:25.000 Why are you talking to this guy who has no history whatsoever in the red pill?

01:57:29.000 Why would it not be me?

01:57:31.000 Why would it not be you?

01:57:32.000 Even Tim Pool has had us on his show.

01:57:35.000 Yeah.

01:57:36.000 So the thing, and Mike Sartain told me this, he said, don't sweat these guys right now, he says, because we're just going to keep going and keep doing what we're doing until it becomes so blatantly obvious, because it becomes weird that we haven't been on the show yet.

01:57:51.000 Yeah, I mean, I've talked to him before.

01:57:52.000 It is weird.

01:57:53.000 How come you haven't had him on there?

01:57:54.000 It is weird.

01:57:55.000 And I'm sure he probably gets requests all the time, like, why don't you talk to these guys?

01:57:58.000 Because he does a lot of, like, intersexual dynamics.

01:58:00.000 I see it all the time.

01:58:00.000 Like, who should I have on next?

01:58:02.000 And everybody goes, Rollo, Meyer, and blah, blah, blah.

01:58:04.000 And, you know, mute.

01:58:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:58:07.000 He does that on purpose, you know.

01:58:09.000 And, like, it is crazy because I met him in person. 0.99

01:58:11.000 Nice guy and shit. 0.83

01:58:11.000 But it's like, I'm like, in my head, I'm like, A lot of your content, a substantial amount, is literally intersexual dynamics, and you're not talking to the top guys in this field. 0.83

01:58:21.000 And when they do bring us up, it's indirectly, and it's some snarky, stupid remark that's going to be the clip. 0.97

01:58:27.000 That was the clip. 0.99

01:58:27.000 That's why I came across it in the first place. 0.99

01:58:30.000 This is literally our wheelhouse, dude.

01:58:31.000 This is our wheelhouse.

01:58:31.000 And it's cool, but look, you don't want to bring us on?

01:58:34.000 Totally fine.

01:58:34.000 I'm all for that.

01:58:35.000 Because I understand that I'm controversial as fuck. 0.98

01:58:37.000 Right? 0.97

01:58:39.000 Bringing a guy on like me, I'm completely aware that might hurt opportunities that you have in the future with my political views, whatever.

01:58:45.000 I accept the fact I am far right. 1.00

01:58:47.000 Fuck it. 1.00

01:58:47.000 I did a little political test on myself. 1.00

01:58:49.000 I am fucking far right. 0.97

01:58:50.000 Cool. 0.96

01:58:51.000 And he strikes me more as a libertarian.

01:58:55.000 And having guys on like me might hurt future opportunities, especially since I talk about certain things.

01:59:00.000 So, fine. 0.98

01:59:01.000 But like, Like you, I don't know why the fuck he hasn't talked to you yet. 0.99

01:59:04.000 Like, that's fucking crazy. 0.99

01:59:05.000 Well, I'm not going to go on his show and start talking geopolitics or anything like that. 0.99

01:59:09.000 Well, I don't even think he talks geopolitics.

01:59:11.000 People are going to classify me.

01:59:13.000 I'm probably more conservative, though.

01:59:15.000 I'm just saying, like, he should definitely... 1.00

01:59:16.000 I eat pussy, but I would be a conservative, I suppose. 1.00

01:59:19.000 I'll say this. 1.00

01:59:20.000 Like, for me, I understand.

01:59:21.000 I'm not even mad.

01:59:22.000 Like, okay, I'm controversial.

01:59:23.000 Fine.

01:59:24.000 But you, dude, there's no excuse.

01:59:25.000 Like, you're, like, clean.

01:59:27.000 I've been doing this for 20 some odd years.

01:59:28.000 Very empirical.

01:59:29.000 I think it's getting to the point where it's, like, odd that I haven't been.

01:59:32.000 Yeah, it's weird.

01:59:33.000 Even when Tim Pool hit me up, I was like, really?

01:59:36.000 Because he brings these other people on. 1.00

01:59:37.000 I'm like, who the fuck are these motherfuckers? 1.00

01:59:39.000 These random people. 1.00

01:59:41.000 When I went on with Tim, I was like...

01:59:42.000 Come on, Chris!

01:59:43.000 Come on, man.

01:59:44.000 Bring Rolo on, bro.

01:59:45.000 I'm controversial. 1.00

01:59:46.000 I don't go fuck, but bring Rolo on, dude. 1.00

01:59:48.000 What the fuck? 1.00

01:59:49.000 Crazy, dude. 1.00

01:59:50.000 Tim will give me a good bill of health for you. 1.00

01:59:52.000 Fucking incredible, man. 0.97

01:59:55.000 Because you keep it empirical. 0.99

01:59:56.000 This is your niche.

01:59:57.000 You've been doing it for a while.

01:59:59.000 Probably one of the best blends of the analytical data side while also simultaneously having contemporary data.

02:00:06.000 One of the reasons he said he wouldn't bring me on, remember I told you he did his 500,000 AM? One of the reasons he said he didn't want to bring me on is because he was afraid of losing half of his audience.

02:00:16.000 If he brought me on, the chicks would flee. 1.00

02:00:19.000 Oh! 0.60

02:00:20.000 Like, guys would probably love the show, but, like, women... 1.00

02:00:24.000 Because he appeals to...

02:00:24.000 I mean, look at the dude, man.

02:00:25.000 He was a male model and fucking was on, what, Love Island, Australia, or some shit like that. 0.99

02:00:31.000 That's what it is. 0.99

02:00:32.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that...

02:00:34.000 That's what it is.

02:00:35.000 At least back then, but, like, right now, what's the excuse?

02:00:38.000 I mean, if I went on your show, you'd go... 0.97

02:00:41.000 Dude, we do fucking access Vegas. 1.00

02:00:42.000 You think girls are going to leave your fucking show? 1.00

02:00:45.000 What if we said during the last two hours, three hours that we've been doing this right now that would make women run off? 0.99

02:00:51.000 You know what I've noticed from being in this world though?

02:00:53.000 Making this kind of content is like people are scared, bro. 0.98

02:00:59.000 Like, people, like, just are, like, fucking scared, man. 0.96

02:01:02.000 You can't tell people information. 0.98

02:01:04.000 You can't give them facts.

02:01:05.000 You can't give them data without telling them how to feel about it.

02:01:08.000 Because if you don't, they will hate you for it.

02:01:10.000 So if you tell them something, in fact, if you don't tell them, they will make up reasons why you are telling them.

02:01:16.000 He'll try to pretend like, you're telling me this because you're trying to trick me.

02:01:20.000 I can see me.

02:01:20.000 Cool, yeah.

02:01:21.000 Oh my god, right?

02:01:22.000 But I don't see with you how he would lose female viewership.

02:01:28.000 I think he might be concerned he might agree with me more than disagree with me on a lot of shows.

02:01:33.000 I don't know, dude.

02:01:34.000 It doesn't make sense.

02:01:35.000 Me, I understand.

02:01:36.000 I'm far right.

02:01:36.000 I'm crazy.

02:01:37.000 You know what I mean?

02:01:38.000 Whatever.

02:01:38.000 But like you, dude, no, it doesn't make sense.

02:01:41.000 It doesn't make sense at all.

02:01:42.000 All I do is bring facts to the table.

02:01:44.000 Yeah.

02:01:45.000 yeah i think you're probably one of the best because here's the thing i like dr bus but he's a nerd and he's not really in the sexual marketplace like cool he gives you like you know human evolution and how it is and etc it gives you like the kind of the the the mechanical functions an interesting interview yeah he gives you the mechanical functions but how is he going to be able to apply that to the sexual marketplace today not really when i watch his interviews he has zero real world application um examples to give He'll talk about mating,

02:02:14.000 primates, all this bullshit, but he can't tell you how that applies today.

02:02:18.000 I think what's interesting is I get hate from these guys who I'm now calling these gatekeepers of evolutionary psychology like Alex from Datesight or Mac and Murphy. 0.98

02:02:28.000 I mean, to a lesser degree, maybe even Dr.

02:02:29.000 Buss, right? 0.89

02:02:31.000 And the thing that I get the most is that one of the reasons they sort of dedicate their fucking lives and their studies and everything else to sort of debunk the red pill is because they don't like the interpretations that I do of the same data that they have. 0.97

02:02:46.000 Yes. 0.95

02:02:47.000 So if I go and I say, here's the data.

02:02:49.000 They probably feel like you're muddying their work.

02:02:51.000 Here's the data.

02:02:51.000 Of course.

02:02:52.000 Here's the data.

02:02:53.000 Here's the facts.

02:02:53.000 Here's these things, right?

02:02:54.000 There is data, and then there's interpreting the data.

02:02:58.000 And what they don't like is the dots that I connect.

02:03:01.000 I think it was Nick Krauser, who is an old-school PUA, and I've quoted him on a couple of my books.

02:03:08.000 As a matter of fact, he's...

02:03:10.000 One quote that stuck in my head is he said that the last 15 years of pickup artistry has advanced our understanding of intersexual dynamics more than the last 150 years of psychology and social studies because pickup artists don't have the same field restrictions of ethics and everything else that if they're out there doing these experiments which is run by women now the psychology board is all run by females 90 some odd percent and then by the way the teachers We're

02:03:43.000 good to go.

02:04:04.000 50-50, then we might be able to have a discussion.

02:04:07.000 But when we talk about the crisis of replication in psychology, in the social sciences, even in the hard sciences right now, look no further than the implicit biases of those impacted...

02:04:21.000 The fields of science, right?

02:04:23.000 And I will guarantee you, if you're looking at social studies or sociology, if you're looking at psychology, most of the students and most of the teachers in those fields are female.

02:04:34.000 That is going to create an implicit bias in those fields.

02:04:38.000 So the thing is, even if I'm taking those data, I'm taking data from Steve Stewart-Williams, from Rolf Dengen, from Dr.

02:04:45.000 David Buss, Robert Trivers, certainly Marty Hazelton, I mean Hector Garcia from Dr.

02:04:53.000 Hector Garcia.

02:04:55.000 I'm taking their data and I am just connecting dots that these guys are either unwilling or unable to do.

02:05:02.000 Just like Nick Krauser says, the pickup artists didn't have the ethical limitations of those particular fields For the last 150 years, but in 15 years of Mystery Method and RSD and pickup artists and stuff, the data that's been collected in the field of like intersexual dynamics,

02:05:19.000 guys going and getting dates, getting laid, whatever it is, It has advanced our understanding of intersexual dynamics further than 150 years of sociology and psychology up to this point. 0.93

02:05:29.000 And you tell that to one of these guys who's in their ivory tower as an evolutionary psychology gatekeeper, they don't want to fucking hear that because you're trying to steal their thunder. 0.72

02:05:40.000 You're trying to take away their theater of war, right? 0.63

02:05:45.000 So when I'm collecting data and I'm making those distinctions and I'm connecting those dots, they don't want to answer the questions that those dots create when I make those connections.

02:05:57.000 Because in some way, it's going to alienate them.

02:06:01.000 And it's not enough For a psychologist to just be a psychologist or a pastor to be a pastor or an influencer.

02:06:09.000 Everybody's got to be an influencer today.

02:06:10.000 You can't just be a psychologist.

02:06:12.000 You have to have a YouTube account.

02:06:14.000 You have to have a book.

02:06:15.000 You have to be making the rounds on Chris Williamson or whatever. 0.99

02:06:18.000 You've got to be like, even if you look at like, if you look at a guy, Gad Saad, for example, Evolutionary psychologist knows his shit. 0.99

02:06:25.000 What's he doing? 0.92

02:06:26.000 He puts out a book, goes and makes a book tour, runs around the country and does his thing.

02:06:30.000 He's not doing office work.

02:06:33.000 Jordan Peterson used to be a clinical psychologist. 0.99

02:06:36.000 He hasn't seen a patient in fucking 15 years. 0.98

02:06:38.000 We think of him as a clinical psychologist. 0.99

02:06:40.000 He hasn't been in practice for a long time.

02:06:43.000 Because he can't make money doing that.

02:06:47.000 He makes money by selling books.

02:06:48.000 He makes money at Daily Wire.

02:06:49.000 He makes money by going and doing clips and videos and making his appearances and doing talks and TED talks and everything else.

02:06:56.000 That's where the money is, not in psychology.

02:06:59.000 The doctor just gets you past the velvet rope.

02:07:02.000 You have to have a YouTube account.

02:07:05.000 You have to have your socials.

02:07:06.000 You have to have everything else.

02:07:07.000 If you're going to make any money and be in any way some sort of celebrity or some sort of personality online now, And I mentioned pastors as well.

02:07:15.000 It used to be like, certainly Christian pastors, it used to be you just go to church on Sunday, deliver the sermon, and you go home, right?

02:07:23.000 Now you've got to have YouTube.

02:07:24.000 You've got to have a blog.

02:07:25.000 You've got to live stream your worship service.

02:07:27.000 You've got to live stream the sermon.

02:07:29.000 You've got a YouTube channel.

02:07:30.000 You've got outreach.

02:07:31.000 You've got all this other stuff going on.

02:07:32.000 You're not a pastor anymore.

02:07:34.000 You're an influencer that happens to be a pastor.

02:07:37.000 I just had an epiphany moment just now while I was listening to you speak.

02:07:39.000 So why it's always great to talk to you.

02:07:44.000 I've figured it out.

02:07:46.000 The academics, right?

02:07:48.000 The people that you mentioned to include Jordan Peterson, etc.

02:07:51.000 Because we've wanted to have Jordan Peterson on for a bit, right?

02:07:54.000 His daughter came on, etc.

02:07:55.000 It's more likely you'll go on Chris Williams.

02:07:58.000 Yeah, of course, of course.

02:07:59.000 And a lot of these psychologists, etc., besides the fact that we're extremely controversial, it's hitting me now.

02:08:08.000 And there's two reasons.

02:08:09.000 There's two things for this.

02:08:12.000 So...

02:08:13.000 They do their analysis of female mating practices from a scientific academic standard, and it stops there.

02:08:21.000 She wants a leader of men. 1.00

02:08:23.000 She wants a man that's physically strong and capable, a man that's confident, a man that's ambitious because these are all provider values, security values, whatever.

02:08:31.000 That's it.

02:08:32.000 They just tell you what it is, right?

02:08:34.000 Like you said before, they don't interpret the data for you.

02:08:36.000 Now, I think the reason why these psychologists and these clean-cut Intersexual dynamic creators like a Chris Williamson, a Jordan Peterson, etc. 0.98

02:08:45.000 The reason why they don't want to actually take that data and interpret it is because you're going to come to the fucking conclusion. 1.00

02:08:52.000 A lot of these girls are fucking sluts. 1.00

02:08:54.000 That's why. 1.00

02:08:55.000 And they don't want to have these difficult conversations about what it takes to actually be an attractive man.

02:09:00.000 They'll sit there and say, have dark triad traits.

02:09:02.000 Right? 1.00

02:09:03.000 No, you fucking bitch. 1.00

02:09:05.000 You don't call her back. 1.00

02:09:06.000 You have multiple women. 1.00

02:09:08.000 You go to the fucking club and you make sure you have girls which you have social proof. 1.00

02:09:11.000 You make these girls fucking compete for you. 1.00

02:09:13.000 You make sure that you go to the gym. 1.00

02:09:14.000 You keep your sexual market value high.

02:09:16.000 You groom yourself well.

02:09:17.000 You put yourself first every single time.

02:09:19.000 You never let her pick where you're going to go on dates.

02:09:21.000 You never let her tell you anything and boss you around. 1.00

02:09:24.000 See, they don't want to hear this shit. 0.99

02:09:26.000 They don't want to have these very difficult and sensitive conversations because... 1.00

02:09:33.000 It's forbidden.

02:09:35.000 These guys are over here nerding out on stats and numbers and women this and women that and they're keeping it clean.

02:09:41.000 That's how they're able to make...

02:09:42.000 Because women love psychology. 1.00

02:09:43.000 That's why they dominate the psychology board. 1.00

02:09:45.000 But they don't like how to deal with their fucked up psychology. 0.98

02:09:48.000 And guys like me and you are out here telling guys what it is. 0.97

02:09:52.000 That's why the self-help section of every Barnes& Noble is nothing but female authors and is entirely geared for, like, rebuild your life, girl. 1.00

02:09:59.000 Because if you tell men what it really takes to get women, right, to really be attractive, to be arousing, it's fucked up. 0.99

02:10:08.000 Because what it reveals is that women are far more shallow than they want to admit. 1.00

02:10:14.000 They're okay with sharing you.

02:10:16.000 They're okay with breaking the rules for certain guys versus making rules for other guys.

02:10:20.000 It paints them in a very bad light. 0.99

02:10:22.000 That's why guys like me come around or guys like you and we say what the fuck it is. 1.00

02:10:26.000 Misogynist! 0.99

02:10:27.000 No. 1.00

02:10:28.000 I just understand your nature, bitch. 1.00

02:10:30.000 And I know how you are. 0.99

02:10:31.000 I took your data points, connected these dots, and now I'm misogynist because I connected the dots that you didn't want to because if you had done that, you would lose half of your audience.

02:10:43.000 Somebody asked Jordan Peterson, because I went to one of his seminars before, like, Oh, like, how do I get the girl?

02:10:47.000 Blah, blah, blah. 0.90

02:10:48.000 And he's giving, like, pussified advice.

02:10:51.000 Negotiate with her at the table. 1.00

02:10:53.000 Like, stupid shit. 1.00

02:10:54.000 Like, oh, well, you know, it's safe to say that if she rejects you, that she doesn't want to go ahead and kill you. 1.00

02:10:58.000 You're the problem. 0.99

02:11:00.000 You know, and you're the problem. 0.93

02:11:01.000 And it's like... 0.99

02:11:02.000 And the reason why they do that is because at the end of the day, these people are still fucking academics. 0.98

02:11:06.000 And the reality is, this data that you have is fucking useless unless you can interpret it. 0.96

02:11:12.000 So what we basically do is this. 0.95

02:11:13.000 This is our job. 0.99

02:11:14.000 We take that fucking jargon, right? 0.99

02:11:17.000 And we look at it, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

02:11:20.000 Cool.

02:11:20.000 Take out the garbage.

02:11:21.000 Keep the good stuff that makes sense.

02:11:23.000 Go to the audience. 1.00

02:11:24.000 This is what you fucking do. 1.00

02:11:26.000 And we tell them step by step, this is what you do. 1.00

02:11:29.000 We looked at this boring ass data for you motherfuckers and we're telling you A to Z what to do. 0.99

02:11:33.000 Because the problem with these fucking academics is they're not going to give you real solutions to deal with, most importantly, modern women. 1.00

02:11:41.000 And the minute you do is the minute they'll say, you're corrupting our data. 1.00

02:11:46.000 You're misinterpreting us.

02:11:47.000 I was like, no, I'm taking the same data points that you have.

02:11:50.000 I'm just interpreting it in a way that you're unwilling to go to. 0.99

02:11:53.000 Give me these fucking academics. 0.99

02:11:55.000 Let's go to marquee right fucking now. 1.00

02:11:57.000 Not one of them will get a fucking number. 0.99

02:11:59.000 They have all this stuff. 1.00

02:12:01.000 They're over here studying rats and shit. 1.00

02:12:03.000 They know all this shit about female nature. 1.00

02:12:05.000 Okay, motherfuckers. 1.00

02:12:06.000 You come with us to the club. 1.00

02:12:07.000 Let's see how many numbers you can get, etc.

02:12:09.000 You got all this clout too.

02:12:11.000 Like, let's see what you can do.

02:12:12.000 And that's the difference. 0.97

02:12:12.000 They don't have the real world fucking application on any of this shit because they know the science but they don't know the real science because now you have to actually take this stuff and apply it. 0.97

02:12:23.000 And that's where they fail because when I went to Peterson's things and when he gives dating advice, it's generic and it doesn't fucking work. 0.98

02:12:29.000 If anything, He interpreted his own data incorrectly for 2024.

02:12:35.000 Well, I'll go...

02:12:36.000 So, for instance, I'll do this.

02:12:37.000 I'll pick up, say...

02:12:38.000 I think it was either Rob Henderson or it might have been Rolf Dengen.

02:12:42.000 But I'll get these studies that will say, women prefer guys with dark triad personality traits. 0.78

02:12:48.000 Machiavellianism, narcissism, and psychopathy in varying degrees.

02:12:52.000 So they'll say, well, this is what women find attractive. 1.00

02:12:55.000 This is what they're aroused by.

02:12:57.000 These guys who have these personality traits, high correlation between them and sexual access.

02:13:03.000 So that's their data. 1.00

02:13:05.000 That is your fucking data. 1.00

02:13:06.000 Me going, okay. 1.00

02:13:08.000 They love to use dark triad traits.

02:13:10.000 That's what they love to use.

02:13:11.000 So then I go and I say, well, you know, the guy in Tinder Swindler had some really dark triad personality traits.

02:13:16.000 And look what happened as a result.

02:13:18.000 These girls find him irresistible.

02:13:19.000 And, you know, he was able to get away with all this. 0.99

02:13:22.000 He was a swindler. 0.98

02:13:22.000 He was a Tinder Swindler, right? 0.98

02:13:24.000 And these women couldn't get enough of this guy. 1.00

02:13:26.000 In fact, we couldn't even get enough of watching the damn thing, right? 0.81

02:13:28.000 And so if I go and I say, well, the Tinder Swindler, that guy was an archetype for these dark triad personality traits. 0.99

02:13:34.000 I make that connection That shows not that Swindler is being abusive, but the woman as being sort of manipulated by her own fucking nature, right? 0.93

02:13:45.000 And so if I say it's women's nature to love the bad boy, it's women's nature to love the narcissist, the psychopath, and the Machiavellian guy in varying combinations, and they find that guy irresistible. 0.99

02:13:59.000 They want to have his babies. 1.00

02:14:00.000 They want to fuck this guy. 1.00

02:14:01.000 Whether it's evolution or whatever, I'm not making an ethical or moral argument I'm not even giving you best practices in this. 0.99

02:14:09.000 I'm making one observation based on your data.

02:14:12.000 And here's an example of your data in the real world.

02:14:16.000 No, no, no. 1.00

02:14:17.000 You guys are fucking toxically masculine, manipulative sons of bitches. 1.00

02:14:20.000 You're bastardizing my data. 1.00

02:14:21.000 You're bastardizing my data.

02:14:22.000 And I'm like, no.

02:14:23.000 And you know why?

02:14:24.000 Because those connections that I just made shine a pretty dark light on women's females' nature. 1.00

02:14:30.000 Not only that, look, these guys want to be as big as possible.

02:14:32.000 I'm not even trying to make women look bad.

02:14:34.000 If anything else, I'm saying, this is part of your nature.

02:14:37.000 At least accept it and use that information so that when the next Tinder swindler comes around, you go, wait a minute.

02:14:42.000 But here's the thing, though.

02:14:43.000 I remember what Rolo said. 1.00

02:14:44.000 This is the thing with women, though, that I've noticed that men don't suffer from this shit. 1.00

02:14:47.000 If I talk about the dark side of male nature and the issues with male nature, guys are going to look at me crazy. 1.00

02:14:53.000 Like when I say guys are horned dogs and they want to fuck girls. 1.00

02:14:55.000 Oh, yes, yes. 1.00

02:14:55.000 You're wonderful, Meyer. 1.00

02:14:56.000 You can go ahead and talk about the dark side of male nature all fucking day. 1.00

02:15:00.000 No one gives a shit. 1.00

02:15:01.000 No guy's going to check you on it. 0.99

02:15:02.000 Yeah, you're right. 1.00

02:15:03.000 There are fucking weirdos and losers, etc. 1.00

02:15:04.000 But if I talk about the dark side of female nature, you're a misogynist. 1.00

02:15:08.000 And here's the thing with these fucking pussy-ass cucked academics. 1.00

02:15:11.000 This is all starting to connect now. 1.00

02:15:14.000 The problem with these academics is they need to still retain their female audience. 1.00

02:15:18.000 And a lot of these guys are fucking psychiatrists, psychologists, etc. 0.99

02:15:20.000 And they still want to be a part of the board. 1.00

02:15:22.000 They don't want to get fucking kicked off. 0.98

02:15:23.000 So what do they do? 0.99

02:15:24.000 They stop at the academics.

02:15:26.000 They don't go into application. 1.00

02:15:28.000 They don't talk about any of this shit. 0.99

02:15:29.000 They just say, this is what my study finds. 0.99

02:15:31.000 And they don't go into any of the real prescriptions of what to do because then they're going to be labeled a misogynist.

02:15:36.000 Look, Jordan Peterson barely passed the academic part and they wanted to take him off the board. 0.99

02:15:41.000 So the problem now is that The psychology board, psychiatrist, whatever the fuck it is, is dominated by females. 1.00

02:15:48.000 And women have a very difficult time with hearing the dark side of their own fucking nature. 1.00

02:15:53.000 They don't like it. 0.99

02:15:54.000 Which is why they will steer research and experimentation away from anything, any kind of data that might imply that or in some way like back that up. 0.96

02:16:05.000 It's the pickup artists that really have the best, like you said before, 15 years of pickup artistry has blown away the fucking psychology. 0.97

02:16:13.000 Because here's the thing that these psychologists don't want to fucking admit. 0.99

02:16:16.000 You fucking dickheads learn from the pickup artists that you're scared to fucking emulate. 1.00

02:16:21.000 Or even have on your fucking show. 1.00

02:16:23.000 Yeah, or have on your show. 1.00

02:16:24.000 The other thing, I've always said this too, is you take a guy who's a psychologist.

02:16:31.000 He's got his doctorate.

02:16:32.000 Think about what that takes.

02:16:33.000 You've got to go to eight years of school to do that.

02:16:35.000 You've got to do your doctoral thesis.

02:16:37.000 I don't know how much money is involved in getting that education in the first place.

02:16:41.000 Let's just say, for sake of argument, you've got We're good to go.

02:17:02.000 You're going to have to go and get your insurance, your malpractice insurance.

02:17:05.000 You're going to have to pay for a practice.

02:17:06.000 You're going to have to go buy a place to do it. 0.99

02:17:09.000 So you're going to have to have a secretary, all this other shit. 0.85

02:17:11.000 You look at the capital investment for one male or female individual to become a clinical psychologist, a doctor of clinical psychology. 0.98

02:17:21.000 And you look at all the investment that goes into that. 0.99

02:17:24.000 You're probably looking at about 10 years and a lot of fucking money. 0.99

02:17:26.000 And you know what then happens? 0.99

02:17:28.000 You go onto Twitter and you see... 0.99

02:17:31.000 John from MLD in a fucking bubble bath going, fuck all you guys, and he's got a bigger following than you, and then the last four years or five years that you've been fucking around in college, he's been making money hand over fist, talking to the same people that you would be your patients, that you would want them to, I'm going to help these guys, 1.00

02:17:47.000 kind of thing. 1.00

02:17:47.000 You get into that niche. 1.00

02:17:49.000 Didn't matter because all you had to do was go and create your own Kajabi course or you just got to be a good, interesting, entertaining individual and you would have been able to have been more effective doing what John or me or anybody else has been doing for God knows how long.

02:18:04.000 And meanwhile, now knowing that and coming into Instagram, coming onto Twitter, coming onto YouTube and everything, I would say that that would piss me off if I put 10 years of my life Doing the right thing.

02:18:16.000 I think me and you're both coming to this.

02:18:18.000 I mean, you probably knew this already, but for me, I'm kind of like thinking in my head, I'm connecting dots in my head. 0.96

02:18:22.000 This is why the academics don't want to fucking talk to us, bro. 0.99

02:18:24.000 They fucking resent us. 1.00

02:18:25.000 That's why. 1.00

02:18:26.000 Because we go where they won't go. 0.94

02:18:28.000 Yeah.

02:18:28.000 They can't or they won't.

02:18:30.000 We will take their data and interpret it correctly and dispense what guys really need because they don't care about all this fucking monkey jargon shit like, you know, like, no, they just want, dude, what the fuck do I do? 0.99

02:18:41.000 This is what you do. 0.97

02:18:42.000 And what we're telling you is going to work because We have the real data and we're giving you advice. 0.94

02:18:47.000 We're translating it into fucking English for the regular guy. 0.88

02:18:50.000 And even when they'll say, well, you got it wrong. 0.98

02:18:52.000 You got the data wrong.

02:18:53.000 I'll tell you the thing is, but we connected dots.

02:18:55.000 And we ask questions.

02:18:57.000 And we ask the right questions.

02:18:59.000 We ask questions that you, even if those are the wrong questions, we ask questions that you're unwilling to ask.

02:19:03.000 And you won't go there.

02:19:05.000 And because you won't go there, you will never be as effective as the people in the red pill. 0.95

02:19:10.000 Yeah, you never will be.

02:19:11.000 And the other thing too, academics in general is cocked.

02:19:13.000 It's run by women now. 1.00

02:19:15.000 Academia, especially higher education...

02:19:17.000 They're not going there.

02:19:18.000 They won't go there.

02:19:19.000 They have no interest to go there.

02:19:20.000 Like the psychology board run by women. 0.99

02:19:22.000 Finito there too. 0.98

02:19:23.000 So you can see why these guys are fucking scared to have conversations with us or anything because... 0.74

02:19:28.000 And then also for the guys that have a YouTube following, a lot of these guys, women love psychology. 0.94

02:19:31.000 A lot of these guys have like maybe 50% followers.

02:19:33.000 Now it makes sense why he might be scared.

02:19:35.000 A lot of these guys have like half their viewership is female.

02:19:38.000 So...

02:19:39.000 If you go ahead and you talk about this stuff that's unflattering of female nature, it's going to put a lot of them off and piss them off because women don't handle the truth well. 1.00

02:19:47.000 And I think until recently, if you talked about this shit, no one was talking negatively. 0.98

02:19:57.000 Even pickup artists, they were still like Somewhat nice about female nature. 1.00

02:20:03.000 They will tell you like what you need to do or whatever. 0.99

02:20:04.000 But like, no, we don't give a fuck. 1.00

02:20:05.000 I tell girls that they're sluts. 1.00

02:20:07.000 I say that they're dumb whores. 1.00

02:20:08.000 Like, you know, or like you gotta like, you know, I look at men. 1.00

02:20:11.000 I tell men all the time.

02:20:12.000 One of the things I tell them is like, you gotta treat her like an inferior, right? 1.00

02:20:15.000 Because so many guys are stupid and they're so used to pedestalizing women that have to almost make it stupid proof for them. 1.00

02:20:20.000 So I have to tell them, you're the fucking prize. 1.00

02:20:22.000 She's the subordinate. 1.00

02:20:24.000 She's inferior. 1.00

02:20:25.000 You're the superior.

02:20:25.000 Even when you go over the top and you use language like that, it's necessary.

02:20:29.000 Because if you don't, they don't hear it.

02:20:31.000 They don't hear it.

02:20:31.000 It's like, I've said this before.

02:20:33.000 It's not enough to say, don't pedestalize her.

02:20:35.000 You gotta say, you're the superior.

02:20:37.000 That sticks.

02:20:38.000 When you go to the casino that you're at right now, you're walking to the floor, right?

02:20:43.000 What do you see?

02:20:44.000 You see nothing but like...

02:20:46.000 Video poker machines and video slot machines and everything, Wheel of Fortune, Buffalo, all this stuff is like, it's just sensory overload, right?

02:20:53.000 That is social media right now.

02:20:56.000 That is YouTube, right?

02:20:59.000 And so the only thing, because I come from a marketing background because I used to work for casinos.

02:21:04.000 I was an art director.

02:21:05.000 Alcohol as well.

02:21:06.000 Yeah, alcohol as well.

02:21:07.000 But when you're on the casino floor, there is no room for subtlety. 0.99

02:21:12.000 If you want to stand out, you have to have tits, it has to be on fire, and it has to be red. 1.00

02:21:17.000 Preferably red flaming tits. 1.00

02:21:19.000 That is what will get attention on a floor, on a casino floor, right? 0.99

02:21:25.000 The same thing applies to YouTube.

02:21:27.000 The same thing applies to Instagram, to Twitter as well. 1.00

02:21:31.000 And sometimes you've got to say, she's just being a stupid bitch. 1.00

02:21:35.000 Oh! 1.00

02:21:35.000 That's red flaming tits in social media right there. 1.00

02:21:38.000 If you say something that's over the top like that, people will remember that. 1.00

02:21:41.000 And the reason why they will is because they've been so overloaded by sensory overload by being on social media and become so desensitized to shit. 1.00

02:21:49.000 It takes you're a dumb bitch to get people's attention. 1.00

02:21:53.000 Not because you're trying to be an asshole. 1.00

02:21:55.000 You're just trying to grab attention and say, this is important enough that you need red flaming tits in front of your face. 1.00

02:22:01.000 Otherwise, you're never going to see this in this morass of... 1.00

02:22:04.000 And that's what kind of sucks. 1.00

02:22:05.000 To get the attention that's required to change men's minds and deprogram them from the stupidity, you have to risk being so offensive that people won't platform you. 1.00

02:22:14.000 Because you're not an academic now. 1.00

02:22:17.000 We've went into a realm.

02:22:19.000 I think you could still swing it with them.

02:22:21.000 But like me...

02:22:22.000 I am not an academic whatsoever. 0.97

02:22:24.000 I'm a fucking guy that literally just tells guys what it is, what it takes to be attractive, and I've dealt with a lot of girls. 1.00

02:22:30.000 My late count's like 500-something. 1.00

02:22:31.000 I know what the fuck I'm talking about. 0.98

02:22:34.000 You put me in a room with these academics with a bunch of girls there, I'm going to run circles around them because not only do I have their data points and know them, Now I know how to actually interpret it and use it in a modernized sexual marketplace where women have 100% sexual autonomy and they have more options than ever before and it's an ever-changing marketplace. 0.99

02:22:54.000 Now you add in technology to it.

02:22:56.000 You add in the ability for her to go ahead and change. 1.00

02:22:58.000 These motherfuckers don't know what they're talking about. 1.00

02:23:00.000 And you know why? 1.00

02:23:00.000 Because they're specified. 1.00

02:23:02.000 They're specified in one area.

02:23:04.000 That's why.

02:23:05.000 I've been run up the flagpole recently for evolutionary psychology and stuff like that.

02:23:09.000 I'm like, the red pill is not just dependent on evolutionary psychology.

02:23:14.000 There's evolutionary psychology.

02:23:16.000 There's evolutionary biology.

02:23:18.000 There is anthropology, sociology, endocrinology, neurology.

02:23:23.000 There is political aspects.

02:23:25.000 There's religion involved in all of this.

02:23:27.000 You think of all the ways and all the fields and all the sub-fields where intersexual dynamics reaches, and we have to have some kind of working field knowledge.

02:23:38.000 I'm not a fucking brain surgeon, but I do know that men and women's brains are architecturally different because I've read enough of other people's data to make that something that I can go, okay, that kind of locks in with the fact that women want dark triad traits or You mentioned politically. 0.97

02:23:53.000 See, here's another thing, right, that these academics aren't going to fucking get. 0.98

02:23:57.000 I mean, you could talk about this forever, right? 0.75

02:24:00.000 Like, their stuff ends at the academic research show.

02:24:02.000 Let's talk about the political.

02:24:04.000 It's 2020.

02:24:05.000 There's been an explosion on traditional conservative women, right? 1.00

02:24:09.000 Me and you both know it's a fucking scam. 1.00

02:24:11.000 Yes. 1.00

02:24:12.000 Me and you both know that they're going to regress back to feminism if they need it, right? 1.00

02:24:15.000 So, you know, depending on...

02:24:16.000 It's a good pivot before the end of the election.

02:24:19.000 Yeah, right? 1.00

02:24:20.000 I'm seeing girls all over the place going MAGA 2024 and fucking, you know, I want to be a trad wife and all this other shit. 1.00

02:24:26.000 And we know that, like... 1.00

02:24:29.000 The female sexual strategy from the academics is to secure the best man that they can. 1.00

02:24:35.000 So that's the scientific side, the academic side.

02:24:38.000 But we know that the reason why women are doing that in 2024, now we're able to take that knowledge and apply it today. 1.00

02:24:45.000 Why are they doing that?

02:24:46.000 Because they understand that men that are traditionally conservative, Republicans typically tend to have more masculine traits, tend to want to be providers, Can Dr. 1.00

02:25:05.000 Buss or any of these other fucking idiots interpret that? 1.00

02:25:07.000 No! 1.00

02:25:07.000 They're not going to be able to tell you, yeah, these bitches on Twitter or on social media or these women that are running around MAGA hats, etc., they're doing it as a part of a sexual fucking strategy. 1.00

02:25:15.000 You really think they give a fuck about Trump? 1.00

02:25:16.000 They don't even know any of his policies. 0.99

02:25:18.000 They're doing it because they know if I align with this tribe, I can find the man that I want.

02:25:23.000 Right?

02:25:24.000 And I can go ahead and align myself with these guys because these guys still have the traits that I'm neurologically wanting. 0.99

02:25:30.000 They have these provider male traits because I'm tired of dating these pussies that are on the left that are super liberal that think it's okay to split a fucking bill. 1.00

02:25:37.000 And perfect proof of this, there was a woman from LA, like hipster bitch, short hair like this, super liberal. 1.00

02:25:44.000 She was dressed like a fucking dude, whatever, you know, that weird hipster shit. 1.00

02:25:47.000 She admitted, yeah, I went out with this guy who was like a dude, bro, right? 1.00

02:25:51.000 That's more like, you know, conservative, whatever.

02:25:54.000 And she was like, he paid for the bill.

02:25:56.000 I was really attracted to him.

02:25:57.000 I was like really shocked, etc.

02:25:59.000 So on one end, and she was like surprised by it, but she was attracted to it.

02:26:03.000 So on one end, she's told her she thinks that she's supposed to like this guy that's egalitarian, equal, whatever.

02:26:09.000 But then she meets a guy completely fucking opposite, and she's aroused by him and actually is attracted to him.

02:26:14.000 So That girl, right, is in a weird loop. 1.00

02:26:18.000 And she's an idiot. 1.00

02:26:19.000 She might still go back with the galaxy or whatever. 1.00

02:26:21.000 The smart girls that are hot that have higher sexual market value picked up on this two years ago, right? 1.00

02:26:25.000 And they're already like, yeah, I want a guy that's more conservative or whatever. 1.00

02:26:28.000 That's why you see these stupid TikTok bitches. 1.00

02:26:30.000 Literally, yeah, I want a guy that's going to be a provider and take care of me, but I still want him to be, like, liberal. 1.00

02:26:37.000 And everyone in the chat is like, you stupid bitch, you stupid bitch, whatever. 1.00

02:26:40.000 Rightfully fucking so. 1.00

02:26:41.000 But do you think these academics are going to be able to properly ascertain and come to the conclusion we just came to? 0.98

02:26:46.000 It's out of their wheelhouse.

02:26:47.000 It's out of their wheelhouse.

02:26:48.000 They can tell you, like, women, you know, their sexual strategies to get the best guy that they can, but that ends there. 1.00

02:26:56.000 They can't explain to you why these bitches are all going MAGA. They can't explain to you, like, why these women are going ahead and getting with these, like, guys that don't align with them politically, but we can, and that's the difference. 1.00

02:27:07.000 And the minute they do, they align themselves with something ideologically, and then they're put in one tribe or the other.

02:27:14.000 That's why.

02:27:15.000 So that's why I say they're either unable or unwilling.

02:27:18.000 And usually they're unwilling because the moment they say this is best practices, this is what we've discerned from all of this, then suddenly now their ideological bent becomes made aware.

02:27:29.000 So people can start looking.

02:27:30.000 I always say that when I'm talking about certain aspects of, say, hypergamy or if I talk about ovulatory shift or I talk about dual mating strategy and things like that, I don't think it's going to be evolutionary psychology that proves evolutionary or ovulatory shift or dual mating strategy.

02:27:46.000 It's going to be evolutionary biology.

02:27:48.000 It's going to be hard sciences that are going to show that.

02:27:52.000 And that's the thing.

02:27:52.000 So when people say, well, the red pill is dependent just on evolutionary psychology.

02:27:57.000 No.

02:27:58.000 I would say it's even more so on evolutionary biology.

02:28:02.000 Because if you look at the way that...

02:28:04.000 And most importantly, what makes it so difficult and why these academics can't keep up is because...

02:28:08.000 You have all these things going on and then you have the modernity of society.

02:28:12.000 You have trends.

02:28:14.000 Like right now you have certain political years that affect things, right?

02:28:17.000 That's why all these women are like in the past two to three years as we led up to this election year, I've seen an explosion in trad thoughts, right? 1.00

02:28:24.000 You see trends, you see all this stuff.

02:28:25.000 So like it's very difficult for an academic to interpret all this information that's coming in rapidly by the way.

02:28:31.000 And be able to dispense proper advice on it.

02:28:33.000 They just can't.

02:28:34.000 Because the research never can keep up with what's going on currently.

02:28:37.000 And again, they're only specializing in one field of psychology.

02:28:42.000 Or one field that would...

02:28:49.000 And they can only do one at a time.

02:28:52.000 And the reason why is because since they're researchers, they can't put too many variables in it because then are the results legit?

02:28:58.000 We don't know.

02:28:59.000 As far as research methodology and everything else, is even the data legit?

02:29:04.000 That's a whole other conversation.

02:29:07.000 The fact is, I think what happens is they want so badly To find some way to erase the red pill, to debunk the entire reason for their research is to debunk the red pill. 0.99

02:29:21.000 If that's not overt, explicit bias, I don't know what the fuck is. 0.78

02:29:27.000 So when I see stuff like that as explicitly, even if they say, well, we did this as objectively as possible, but then during their explaining the research to, say, a Chris Williamson or something like that, Well, it looks like those red pill guys were wrong. 0.91

02:29:42.000 Or if they were right, they'd try to downplay it and caveat it in a way, right?

02:29:46.000 But the reason why they would even do that in the first place is because there is an ideological explicit bias that's already there.

02:29:52.000 What do they accuse us of?

02:29:54.000 Implicit bias.

02:29:55.000 You guys will never listen to anything that's confounding to the red pill.

02:29:58.000 No, we do all the time, and we also compare it not just to evolutionary psychology, but evolutionary biology, sociology, anthropology, endocrinology.

02:30:08.000 Variances in the girl.

02:30:10.000 Every girl is different too.

02:30:11.000 Behaviorism.

02:30:12.000 There's so many other things that go along with that, and that's the problem.

02:30:16.000 Some girls require more dark triad than other girls. 0.80

02:30:18.000 Evolutionary psychology is important.

02:30:21.000 It is a keystone element, no doubt.

02:30:24.000 But it only goes to one point.

02:30:26.000 And then you've got other aspects and other fields.

02:30:29.000 That's why I keep saying the red pill is not...

02:30:31.000 Like when people say, what's the red pill role?

02:30:32.000 Oh, give me the elevator pitch of the red pill.

02:30:34.000 You can't. 1.00

02:30:35.000 It's a fucking college course is what it is. 1.00

02:30:37.000 It's a major. 1.00

02:30:38.000 It's not a bumper sticker.

02:30:40.000 Look, the red pill is just this, right?

02:30:41.000 No, that's not what it is.

02:30:43.000 It is...

02:30:44.000 All of those ologies, man.

02:30:45.000 It's endocrinology.

02:30:46.000 And again, I'm not a brain surgeon.

02:30:48.000 I'm not an endocrinologist. 0.99

02:30:49.000 I'm not a fucking sociologist or an anthropologist or whatever. 0.73

02:30:53.000 But I know enough about those fields where I can pull data points from those and I can connect the dots between those data sets and say, this looks like a dynamic to me. 0.90

02:31:02.000 What do you think?

02:31:04.000 And just me saying, here's the data that I have and what do you think?

02:31:08.000 That means that I'm trying to convince you of something or I'm, again, what did I say?

02:31:13.000 You can't give people data without telling them how to feel about it.

02:31:17.000 If I've spent my entire life as a research scientist If an evolutionary psychologist and some yahoo with no degree or certainly not in evolutionary psychology comes along and says, hey, I'm taking some of your data and I'm going to use some of your data and I'm going to correlate it with these data points that I have right here, 0.89

02:31:37.000 you're going to be pretty pissed off because you probably spent the last eight to ten years becoming a doctor in evolutionary psychology.

02:31:43.000 Here's the thing, though.

02:31:44.000 So check this out.

02:31:46.000 Let's say, hypothetically, we're going to go to a club, right?

02:31:48.000 And Dr.

02:31:49.000 Buss watched me go ahead and approach women and do certain things. 0.87

02:31:52.000 He would probably say, okay, I see why you did that.

02:31:56.000 Oh, that's interesting.

02:31:57.000 Okay.

02:31:58.000 So, like, I would exhibit behaviors and he would be able to tie it back to his data and be like, okay, that makes sense why you did that.

02:32:06.000 Okay, that makes sense.

02:32:07.000 Here, you talk to this girl.

02:32:08.000 Then you went ahead and talked to this girl.

02:32:09.000 Then you brought that girl back to that group.

02:32:11.000 Oh, wow, you're demonstrating social work.

02:32:12.000 He'd be able to, like, see, okay, I see what you're doing.

02:32:16.000 But would Dr. 1.00

02:32:16.000 Buss go ahead and be able to do that shit himself? 1.00

02:32:18.000 Probably not. 1.00

02:32:19.000 He wouldn't.

02:32:20.000 There's a difference between research studies where you're putting out questionnaires for people to say, do you strongly agree, agree, somewhat agree, neutral, or disagree, blah, blah, blah.

02:32:34.000 Theory and application are two different things.

02:32:36.000 That's one thing to go out there.

02:32:37.000 I'm not saying that qualitative data is completely useless.

02:32:40.000 It's not.

02:32:41.000 But the thing is, there's a difference between filling out questionnaires and And going out into the field and observing the gorillas in the mist, right?

02:32:49.000 Like being Jane Goodall or Diane Fossey at, like, I can go to Babes in Toyland and I can, I'm sober, so I'm watching the humans in their natural habitat.

02:32:59.000 Is that, is that, is, is, is Diane Fossey and Jane Goodall's, is their research that they did over the course of decades at observational field work, is that less quantitative?

02:33:11.000 Quality of less value than a questionnaire you do on Twitter.

02:33:16.000 I think it's more valuable because you're there watching it happen live in real time all day long.

02:33:22.000 So you're looking at field research versus experimentive research which is, you know, fill out this questionnaire and do you agree or strongly disagree.

02:33:28.000 Nothing like these academics and these researchers, right? 0.97

02:33:32.000 It's completely different to do research and be like, with control variables and shit. 1.00

02:33:37.000 Go into a fucking nightclub at night. 1.00

02:33:38.000 Go into the field. 1.00

02:33:39.000 And then loud music. 0.99

02:33:41.000 Fat friends trying to cock block you. 0.98

02:33:43.000 Situational awareness. 0.83

02:33:44.000 Phones, them using their phones, making the right timing, figuring out, you know, social, figuring out, like, looking at her body language.

02:33:51.000 Is she here with other guys? 0.95

02:33:52.000 Is she in a relationship?

02:33:53.000 Okay, I'm looking at a group of people.

02:33:55.000 There's three girls, two guys.

02:33:56.000 Okay, that girl's single. 1.00

02:33:57.000 That girl isn't. 0.98

02:33:58.000 Like, the academics can only go so far versus, like, a guy that's in the field.

02:34:02.000 Dude, a pickup artist...

02:34:03.000 It's going to have way more application skill sets than an academic.

02:34:08.000 And the beauty is this.

02:34:09.000 If the academic were to watch the pickup artists doing what they're doing, the academic would immediately be able to say, oh, okay, this makes sense why he's doing that, etc.

02:34:18.000 But if we flip the roles...

02:34:20.000 The academic would not be able to do what the pickup artist is doing because they're stiff in their academics.

02:34:25.000 They have no field experience.

02:34:26.000 They don't know exactly.

02:34:28.000 They wouldn't be able to tell you what best practice or even suggest best practice.

02:34:32.000 There's a difference between theory and practice, right?

02:34:35.000 So that's one of the reasons why I shy away from being too specific about prescriptions.

02:34:41.000 I know you give prescriptions all the time.

02:34:43.000 A lot of people think I give prescriptions, and if I do, it's never directly.

02:34:50.000 It's like maybe it's a suggestion.

02:34:52.000 Here's a suggestion, yeah.

02:34:52.000 Yeah, a suggestion.

02:34:53.000 Or I look at it this way.

02:34:56.000 It's equipping people.

02:34:58.000 It's educating people, and you take that education, and then you can use it and apply it to your specific situation.

02:35:03.000 And guys, get your questions here because we're going to wrap up here soon.

02:35:05.000 Yeah, we got to go because these guys got to get out of here. 0.99

02:35:07.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:35:08.000 We do? 1.00

02:35:08.000 Okay. 1.00

02:35:09.000 I'll read these chats real quick.

02:35:10.000 Did you finish your thought on that, though?

02:35:11.000 Yeah.

02:35:11.000 Okay.

02:35:12.000 I'll read these chats and then we'll close out. 1.00

02:35:16.000 Shit. 0.99

02:35:17.000 Shout out to y'all for the effort you and Bills put in the show. 1.00

02:35:21.000 Win Myron, win Rollo, win Bills.

02:35:23.000 Oh, and don't forget, win Kyle.

02:35:26.000 That's you, Kyle.

02:35:28.000 Producer Kyle.

02:35:30.000 What does that next one say?

02:35:32.000 Oh, I can see it on the screen.

02:35:33.000 Okay.

02:35:33.000 Hey, Myron, I just got a rear-ended pause by a female.

02:35:37.000 She went into this story on why she hit me in the freeway to keep it short.

02:35:41.000 She said she was hungry and she felt she was going to die of hunger.

02:35:44.000 I'm sick of this.

02:35:46.000 Females, I can't drive. 1.00

02:35:47.000 So I just recently ordered a I feel like shirt from FNM. Keep up the great work.

02:35:51.000 Myron's much. 1.00

02:35:52.000 Damn, bro. 0.99

02:35:52.000 You put a picture there, too? 0.99

02:35:53.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:35:54.000 Damn, bro. 0.99

02:35:57.000 Yo, is that a new feature that you could put the chats like that up from Castle Club? 0.99

02:36:01.000 Yeah.

02:36:03.000 Yeah, that's like brand new, right? 0.99

02:36:05.000 That's fucking lit. 0.99

02:36:06.000 That's Rumble Studio, bro. 1.00

02:36:07.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:36:12.000 I saw this.

02:36:13.000 I saw that on Twitter. 1.00

02:36:14.000 I'm throwing that fucking water. 1.00

02:36:17.000 I saw that shit on Twitter. 1.00

02:36:19.000 Yo, brother, the average is 187 pounds, man. 1.00

02:36:21.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:36:22.000 Shanique was...

02:36:25.000 Roberto says, glad you're talking to Rolo about the red pill.

02:36:29.000 Kind of seems like F&F has moved away from the red pill.

02:36:32.000 No, man, we still do on Wednesdays.

02:36:33.000 And obviously the nighttime shows.

02:36:35.000 When he comes to Vegas, that's what we're talking about.

02:36:37.000 You know, so you guys, hey, you guys got a good one here.

02:36:39.000 So what else?

02:36:41.000 Oh, man.

02:36:43.000 Them boys.

02:36:44.000 Hang on, I'm going to make it twice soon.

02:36:45.000 Let me know if you're interested.

02:36:46.000 I'm only doing 109. 1.00

02:36:48.000 Yeah, okay, you fucking dickhead. 1.00

02:36:50.000 I might have something big for you guys on Sunday. 1.00

02:36:53.000 We'll see what happens.

02:36:55.000 Anything else?

02:36:57.000 Oh, we need a Myron and Angie space on Twitter.

02:37:00.000 Well, I'm banned.

02:37:01.000 I can't talk on spaces right now. 0.99

02:37:03.000 It's fucking FBAs. 0.99

02:37:04.000 Free the Tates, Dog Catcher, okay. 0.99

02:37:07.000 And then we got Ian says, went to Barnes and Nobles to get the Rational Male Self-Transformation Section dedicated to witchcraft and drugs.

02:37:15.000 W, Rolo, Myron, Rolo, Pod, and Moe in the back, working hard.

02:37:19.000 Moe in here. 0.99

02:37:20.000 It's Bills.

02:37:21.000 Bills today.

02:37:23.000 Bills pays the bills.

02:37:24.000 Thank you.

02:37:25.000 And then we got Off Top of Raj... 0.88

02:37:30.000 I afford transit.

02:37:31.000 Want to know that you have said in the past not to be... 0.99

02:37:35.000 Bro, what the fuck is this? 1.00

02:37:36.000 Do you know how to write? 1.00

02:37:37.000 Come back after you're done with your ESL classes.

02:37:41.000 My reason to do it is to build my credit and I'll use it for my carpentry concrete company when I started things.

02:37:45.000 I can afford it.

02:37:47.000 I think he said his transit van.

02:37:50.000 Yo, if you're going to do it by a transit van, make sure it's 6,000 pounds or above.

02:37:54.000 Transit van down by the river?

02:37:55.000 For your business.

02:37:57.000 I don't know what you're saying, but I'm assuming you're asking about buying a transit van.

02:38:00.000 Make sure it's over 6,000 pounds so you can write it off and you have your LLC set up.

02:38:04.000 Anything else?

02:38:05.000 Cool.

02:38:06.000 Roll it.

02:38:06.000 Where can people find you?

02:38:07.000 Oh, of course.

02:38:08.000 You can find me on Amazon.com, not Barnes& Noble.

02:38:11.000 Yeah.

02:38:12.000 You mean to? 0.99

02:38:13.000 You ain't going to find our books on fucking Barnes& Noble. 0.98

02:38:15.000 My books are on Amazon.com. 0.97

02:38:16.000 You can find all of them there.

02:38:17.000 Just type in the rational mail.

02:38:18.000 You can also find me on Twitter, obviously.

02:38:21.000 I've been doing spaces, but I kind of left it alone this week after...

02:38:25.000 Space is huge, man.

02:38:26.000 I got banned.

02:38:27.000 We're going to be back.

02:38:29.000 Mike Sartain's been in Los Angeles.

02:38:32.000 We're going to be going to the Marquee Hotel for Swimsuit USA tomorrow.

02:38:38.000 You and I. That's a bikini contest. 1.00

02:38:42.000 I should say that it's a bikini pageant. 0.89

02:38:45.000 The difference between a contest and a pageant is a lot of money.

02:38:50.000 What time does it end?

02:38:51.000 Probably like four.

02:38:52.000 Okay.

02:38:52.000 Yeah, one to four, one to five.

02:38:54.000 I'm going to sleep and see what time I can wake up.

02:38:56.000 Five, maybe.

02:38:56.000 But anyways, so I'll be doing that tomorrow.

02:38:58.000 Because I didn't sleep at all.

02:38:59.000 Access Vegas.

02:39:00.000 If anything, we'll go to the gym.

02:39:01.000 Can you do gym at night?

02:39:02.000 I can do whenever you want.

02:39:04.000 Okay.

02:39:04.000 Access Vegas will be returned on the 29th, which is next Thursday or week from today.

02:39:10.000 So we got that coming back.

02:39:11.000 And then what else we got going on?

02:39:14.000 When's the next time you're in Miami?

02:39:15.000 I don't know yet.

02:39:16.000 I've been invited for a couple of things.

02:39:19.000 Dude, what are you doing?

02:39:19.000 Also, Valuetainment.

02:39:20.000 I might be going out to Valuetainment.

02:39:22.000 Do it.

02:39:23.000 I'm a pretty big deal on Manect right now.

02:39:26.000 I don't know what Manect is.

02:39:30.000 I'm actually in third place on their Manect tournament right now.

02:39:34.000 So if I can hold it till the end of the month, then I might make a trip out there.

02:39:37.000 We'll see.

02:39:37.000 All right.

02:39:38.000 So, but yeah, I did not know I was even in third place in the tournament.

02:39:42.000 But, so Minect is really great too.

02:39:44.000 So if you want to ask me questions like on the fly or whatever, you can just look me up on Minect, M-I-N-N-E-C-T.com.

02:39:52.000 Nice, nice.

02:39:52.000 And then you'll just look in for Rolo Tomasi and I'm right there.

02:39:55.000 I'm actually pretty...

02:39:56.000 I'm in the middleweight division, so I shouldn't be too hard to find.

02:40:00.000 But that's coming up.

02:40:01.000 And then, again, you can find me on Instagram, rational underscore mail.

02:40:05.000 And then, of course, I'm on Twitter as well, which is Rolo Tomasi at Rational Mail.

02:40:11.000 Nice.

02:40:11.000 Yeah, so guys, tomorrow I'm going to probably do, I'm going to have an interview with Dan Bilzerian, probably going to live stream it.

02:40:18.000 And we did Hot Swins earlier.

02:40:20.000 This is my third stream of the day, bro.

02:40:21.000 I've been filming for like eight hours, doing podcasts, running around.

02:40:24.000 I'm dead, no sleep.

02:40:25.000 Guys, go check out Rolo.

02:40:26.000 Go support his work.

02:40:27.000 We'll get the book, The Rational Mail.

02:40:28.000 I don't know if you don't have it. 0.99

02:40:29.000 What the fuck is wrong with you? 0.97

02:40:30.000 Yeah, by the way, it's on Amazon. 0.99

02:40:32.000 It's on, you can get the print, you can get the Kindle, and it's on Audible as well.

02:40:35.000 All five of them are.

02:40:36.000 Go get it, guys.

02:40:38.000 And then you got to come to Miami, man.

02:40:40.000 Yeah.

02:40:41.000 You need to come.

02:40:42.000 And then what else?

02:40:42.000 I'm trying to think.

02:40:43.000 There was something else I was going to say, but I usually make two trips to Miami a year.

02:40:46.000 Once in May and once in November.

02:40:48.000 I've been out here to Vegas a bunch of times now.

02:40:50.000 I come here a lot.

02:40:51.000 This is like my second city, man.

02:40:54.000 I hate traveling, but a lot of people are here in Vegas.

02:40:57.000 Vegas is the West Coast hub for what we do.

02:40:59.000 It is. 0.99

02:41:00.000 Everyone's getting the fuck out of LA. I'm glad me and Miguel came here when we did. 0.95

02:41:04.000 We got in early. 0.99

02:41:05.000 LA is fucking terrible. 0.99

02:41:07.000 It's still relatively cheap, man. 1.00

02:41:08.000 When you guys tell me the rent price, it sounds like shocks.

02:41:11.000 Anyway, guys, here's Rolo Tomasi.

02:41:13.000 Go check him out.

02:41:13.000 Go get the Rational Mail.

02:41:14.000 Go subscribe to his YouTube channel.

02:41:15.000 Check him out on Twitter. 1.00

02:41:17.000 I am going to be probably tweeting some shit. 0.99

02:41:20.000 Unplugged Fidex. 0.99

02:41:21.000 Check me out over there.

02:41:21.000 We're going to do...

02:41:23.000 Dan Bilzerian tomorrow, hopefully.

02:41:24.000 Like I said, we're going to coordinate a time.

02:41:26.000 His schedule's crazy, so no promises.

02:41:28.000 But I think we're 80-90% there with Dan.

02:41:31.000 And love you guys.

02:41:32.000 We'll catch you guys in the next episode of Fresh to Fit.

02:41:34.000 Hopefully tomorrow we're grinding over here.

02:41:35.000 Peace!

Fresh & Fit - August 23, 2024

Fresh&Fit Vegas Edition w- Rollo Tomassi

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