Fresh & Fit - From Drug Money To Legit Money w- White Boy Rick

00:14:04.000 All right, guys, and we're back on a podcast, Fresh and Fit with what we're Rick.

00:14:08.000 Let's go!

00:14:58.000 All right, hey, you're back.

00:14:59.000 What's up, guys?

00:15:00.000 Welcome to the Freshwood Podcast, man.

00:15:01.000 It is Money Monday.

00:15:03.000 It's been a minute, man.

00:15:04.000 You've been out of town.

00:15:04.000 It's been a while.

00:15:05.000 Yeah, a lot going on.

00:15:07.000 You want to throw them in on what was going on and everything?

00:15:09.000 Yeah, see, we did a BBC tour around Europe.

00:15:13.000 Africa.

00:15:13.000 We're back in the country.

00:15:15.000 It was pretty dope.

00:15:16.000 A lot of experiences.

00:15:17.000 Cool people to meet.

00:15:18.000 Business meeting that we attended for some stuff for us personally.

00:15:22.000 And it was really good.

00:15:23.000 But of course, Miami's still the best.

00:15:26.000 Europe is cool, but it's not as cool as Miami.

00:15:28.000 And just to be fair, guys, food is better over there.

00:15:31.000 The air is better.

00:15:32.000 Girls are hot. 1.00

00:15:33.000 But Miami has all that and more.

00:15:36.000 Not better food.

00:15:37.000 Anyhow, what's up with you?

00:15:39.000 Good, man.

00:15:39.000 Just been here.

00:15:41.000 Camera's off.

00:15:44.000 Yeah, it just fell.

00:15:45.000 Okay.

00:15:46.000 Just been working, bro.

00:15:47.000 You know how it is, right?

00:15:48.000 Streaming and everything else like that.

00:15:50.000 Every day.

00:15:51.000 Pretty much.

00:15:51.000 Almost every day, yeah.

00:15:52.000 Non-stop.

00:15:53.000 Yeah.

00:15:53.000 So it's, but we're chilling, man.

00:15:55.000 We're doing good.

00:15:56.000 I think this weekend.

00:15:59.000 What about this weekend?

00:16:00.000 Tim Cast event.

00:16:01.000 Oh, shit.

00:16:02.000 Yeah.

00:16:02.000 I forgot about that.

00:16:03.000 Yeah, I'll be in Washington, D.C. this Saturday, guys, on August 9th.

00:16:06.000 I'll be out there with Tim Poole and a bunch of other people.

00:16:08.000 So that's going to be a good time.

00:16:10.000 So, yeah.

00:16:11.000 Anyway, we got a special guest in the house, man.

00:16:12.000 And without further ado, welcome to the guests in the building.

00:16:14.000 White boy Rick.

00:16:18.000 Thanks for having me, bro.

00:16:19.000 Of course, bro.

00:16:20.000 Good to have you, man.

00:16:20.000 So I met Rick a couple months ago, and awesome dude.

00:16:24.000 Very hospitable, very nice, very charitable as well as very generous.

00:16:29.000 And Rick, I know you are, but they may not.

00:16:31.000 Tell them who you are.

00:16:34.000 Little history, white boy Rick, longest serving juvenile in the world for a drug crime.

00:16:38.000 I did almost 33 years for a nonviolent drug crime.

00:16:42.000 I've been out five years.

00:16:43.000 I think you were with us.

00:16:45.000 So my five-year anniversary.

00:16:47.000 Thank you for coming.

00:16:48.000 Shout out to my man George, Kiki on the river.

00:16:50.000 We all had a blast, man.

00:16:52.000 Four days.

00:16:53.000 Had the crew down here with us.

00:16:54.000 And, you know, 60 months went by in a blur.

00:16:58.000 Like, nothing like when you're in prison.

00:17:00.000 60 months is like an eternity.

00:17:02.000 Out here, it's like the blink of an eye.

00:17:04.000 I can't imagine being in jail that long, coming out in the new world, seeing technology, how things are.

00:17:09.000 That must have been crazy, bro.

00:17:10.000 But you did it.

00:17:12.000 I'll never forget.

00:17:14.000 I got an iPhone 8 in the halfway house, and I took it to my room.

00:17:19.000 And I opened that box, and I was looking for an on-off button.

00:17:23.000 And I was like, where the fuck?

00:17:26.000 How are you turning this motherfucker on?

00:17:28.000 And I couldn't call nobody because I didn't have a phone.

00:17:31.000 So I grabbed this young kid and I was like, hey, bro, take me to school.

00:17:35.000 And he was like, what do you want, OG?

00:17:37.000 And I was like, well, first, let's start with turning it on.

00:17:40.000 And he was like, bro, you got to hold these two buttons.

00:17:43.000 And I was like, that's stupid.

00:17:45.000 And he was like, bro, this is like state of the art.

00:17:48.000 Apple is like, you know, I kept up on stuff, but to have it in my hand and be able to touch it and hold it and see the things that you can do through a phone, it was pretty amazing.

00:17:59.000 Because when I left the streets, you dialed the number and you pushed send.

00:18:02.000 And that was all you could do.

00:18:04.000 So let's take it back to the very beginning.

00:18:06.000 We started in Detroit.

00:18:08.000 What was your childhood lake coming up?

00:18:09.000 And how'd you get into like these activities that kind of put you in jail after the home?

00:18:13.000 I'm going to send you a cool last picture.

00:18:15.000 Okay.

00:18:16.000 I don't think you were in Europe, so I ain't bother you.

00:18:19.000 But this is the house where my dad was born.

00:18:23.000 My aunt OD'd in this house.

00:18:26.000 Oh, wow.

00:18:26.000 And it's a lot.

00:18:30.000 I got in trouble in front of this house.

00:18:32.000 Can you put it on the screen or no?

00:18:33.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:18:34.000 Hell yeah.

00:18:34.000 Okay, cool.

00:18:37.000 This is like real life in the moment stuff, guys.

00:18:43.000 To my text?

00:18:44.000 Went back home.

00:18:48.000 So this is really where it all started, Fresh.

00:18:52.000 And that's how we pulled up.

00:18:54.000 So what was it like growing up for you?

00:18:56.000 Listen, man, growing up in the hood, I ain't going to lie.

00:18:58.000 It was fun.

00:18:59.000 Like, my friends, a lot of my friends are still my friends.

00:19:02.000 You know, a lot of my friends I lost because of where we grew up.

00:19:09.000 I found out today one of my friends either got murdered or died in prison June 27th.

00:19:14.000 His son called me.

00:19:16.000 We just found out today that, you know, he was deceased.

00:19:18.000 So God bless him.

00:19:19.000 Did he?

00:19:20.000 Andre McKnight.

00:19:21.000 No, they didn't tell any of us, bro.

00:19:23.000 Unfortunately, that's our prison system in America. 0.95

00:19:26.000 Wow.

00:19:27.000 So, you know, nobody had heard from him.

00:19:30.000 We looked him up and it said discharged.

00:19:33.000 And I knew he was doing life.

00:19:34.000 And I called my boy.

00:19:36.000 I was like, bro, could he have gotten out?

00:19:37.000 And he was like, bro, he passed.

00:19:40.000 And his son called me this morning and told me that he had passed.

00:19:44.000 Nobody still knows how.

00:19:46.000 Isn't it routine to tell the family that someone passed away?

00:19:48.000 Supposed to.

00:19:49.000 The prison system.

00:19:50.000 It's way different.

00:19:52.000 They don't care.

00:19:53.000 Yeah.

00:19:55.000 You know, he lost his whole life, bro.

00:19:57.000 He did.

00:19:57.000 He made a mistake as a child in the hood.

00:19:59.000 And his rappy, because his co-defendant was a couple years younger than him when the laws changed.

00:20:05.000 His co-defendant got out.

00:20:07.000 And unfortunately, he passed away or was murdered in prison.

00:20:13.000 So Detroit, I mean, obviously it's not the best place for the most part.

00:20:17.000 And it can be kind of troublesome at the same time.

00:20:20.000 What was it like for you growing up in Detroit?

00:20:22.000 Listen, like I said, bro, you know, I had a lot of friends there.

00:20:26.000 And, you know, to this day, Boo Curry was just here.

00:20:31.000 You met him from the movie with me.

00:20:33.000 And Boo's, you know, like a brother to me to this day.

00:20:38.000 So, you know, the people that you were close to, we all stayed close, you know.

00:20:43.000 So we still talk.

00:20:44.000 Some of us are doing better than others, you know, but we all talk and we all try and look out for each other still to this day.

00:20:51.000 How'd you get into like the whole drug game itself?

00:20:54.000 Bro, really, you know, the drug game was, you know, the movie's so distorted, bro.

00:21:00.000 This is the 80s, right?

00:21:01.000 Yeah.

00:21:02.000 Like the 80s.

00:21:02.000 Yeah.

00:21:03.000 Mid-80s, like crack hit.

00:21:05.000 I was there, you know, bro, it's just a product of your environment.

00:21:11.000 You know what I mean?

00:21:12.000 Like things happened, you know, other things happened.

00:21:16.000 And, you know, to be honest with you, bro, we're all trying to survive.

00:21:21.000 You know, a lot of my friends got into selling crack to help their mom pay the bills.

00:21:25.000 Damn.

00:21:27.000 You know, when Tupac said, put money in your mailbox, you know, even though I sell rocks to make me feel good, like, true in the hood, bro.

00:21:37.000 And there was no other way out other than selling.

00:21:42.000 I mean, there's a, you know, there's always another way out, but at the moment, you know, you're a child, so you might not make the best decisions.

00:21:51.000 But for us, that was our way out.

00:21:54.000 Yeah.

00:21:55.000 So when you were in that environment, was it like everyone was doing it and you just went along with it and then...

00:22:03.000 Listen, bro, I was always ahead of, I hung out with older dudes.

00:22:09.000 And, you know, I always had a hustler's mentality.

00:22:13.000 So, you know, being real, I watched, like, I remember watching Scarface.

00:22:19.000 And I was like, bro, I'm 14 or 15.

00:22:25.000 And I was like, bro, we're selling rocks.

00:22:27.000 But if I can get us to Miami, we'll All be rich.

00:22:31.000 And within a year, I had a plug in Miami.

00:22:34.000 How did you meet the plug?

00:22:36.000 Bro, bio.

00:22:37.000 My first plug I met on the Humble.

00:22:39.000 We came down to visit one of my sister's friends.

00:22:42.000 And I was like, hey, you know anybody sells blow?

00:22:45.000 And she was like, yeah, my uncle just got out of prison.

00:22:48.000 And that's how I got my first plug.

00:22:50.000 What was my money back then?

00:22:52.000 What was it like?

00:22:53.000 Crazy, bro.

00:22:54.000 In the 80s.

00:22:55.000 Oh, bro.

00:22:55.000 Like, if you watch Miami Vice or GTA.

00:22:59.000 Bro, like, that was real.

00:23:01.000 Like, people getting caught up with chainsaws was real, bro.

00:23:05.000 Really?

00:23:05.000 People getting killed at the mall, like little kids getting caught in the crossfire and stuff.

00:23:10.000 Like, that was Miami was crazy, bro.

00:23:13.000 You had an influx of immigrants and the Marilito boat lift and all these Cubans. 1.00

00:23:17.000 And, bro, I remember being a kid here.

00:23:20.000 I think I was about 10 years old.

00:23:22.000 And I came with my grandma to visit her brother.

00:23:25.000 And I seen all these people under the freeway.

00:23:29.000 And I was like, what the fuck?

00:23:31.000 They got people living fenced in.

00:23:33.000 Then when I seen Scarface, I was like, that's them motherfuckers I seen living under the bridge. 0.90

00:23:38.000 Oh, shit.

00:23:39.000 And it was.

00:23:41.000 I was like, holy shit.

00:23:42.000 Like in a movie?

00:23:43.000 Yeah.

00:23:44.000 That was true.

00:23:46.000 Them people, when they all came here, they put them all under the freeway, put a fence up and put them there. 0.98

00:23:51.000 Damn.

00:23:52.000 It was.

00:23:54.000 Bro, I went home to the hood.

00:23:55.000 I'll never forget.

00:23:55.000 I was like, bro, they got people fenced in.

00:23:57.000 You know, I'm like 10 or 11.

00:23:59.000 My boys in the hood are like, man, shut the fuck up.

00:24:01.000 People, then when Scarface came out, I was like, I told you.

00:24:05.000 Damn.

00:24:06.000 So when you saw Scarface, did he want to be like him?

00:24:08.000 Or was it more like.

00:24:10.000 I wanted that money, bro.

00:24:12.000 Like, we all, like, bro, growing up, like, my grandparents worked at Chrysler 40 years.

00:24:19.000 Like, we weren't dirt poor, but by no means were we rich.

00:24:24.000 You know what I mean?

00:24:25.000 So me and my friends, we were like, bro, we got to get this money.

00:24:30.000 And we started hustling.

00:24:32.000 Were you the only white boy in that community coming in?

00:24:35.000 Only one, bro.

00:24:35.000 Only one.

00:24:36.000 The only one hustling.

00:24:38.000 It was a couple other white kids, but like, nobody did what I did, bro.

00:24:44.000 I mean, back then, how'd you, well, first of all, get into it.

00:24:48.000 And then, two, like, when did you know you got caught?

00:24:52.000 Or were you going to get caught at what point?

00:24:55.000 Honest to God, you never think you're going to get caught.

00:24:57.000 I never got caught with anything.

00:24:59.000 Make that clear.

00:25:00.000 The drugs I was convicted of, I never touched.

00:25:03.000 They had palm prints and everything I gave them.

00:25:05.000 It was middle of summer.

00:25:06.000 They were like, oh, there's a box of drugs.

00:25:08.000 They didn't have my palm prints on them.

00:25:09.000 So I was like, yeah, I'll give you my palm prints.

00:25:11.000 So, bro, I say today, if we had these, I never would have went to prison.

00:25:17.000 Really?

00:25:18.000 Never.

00:25:19.000 Because now you see everything recorded.

00:25:22.000 So when they seen this fight break out and they seen everything, the whole thing started because the police tried to take a bunch of money from me in a traffic stop.

00:25:30.000 That's how the whole thing started.

00:25:32.000 So it was random.

00:25:33.000 Yeah, it was just started on the Humble, bro.

00:25:38.000 So you're driving your car.

00:25:39.000 I was driving with a friend of mine.

00:25:40.000 He's dead now, too.

00:25:42.000 And we got pulled over and the police saw that I had a bag of money in the car and they wanted to take the money and we weren't going to let them take our money.

00:25:52.000 Damn.

00:25:53.000 How much was it?

00:25:53.000 Yeah, like $40,000, I think.

00:25:55.000 It was like for a couple of years.

00:25:56.000 But this is the 80s, though, right?

00:25:57.000 Yeah.

00:25:57.000 Yeah, so that's like maybe that's a lot of money.

00:25:59.000 It's like triple that now.

00:26:00.000 20, yeah, it's like more.

00:26:02.000 $100,000 plus, yeah.

00:26:03.000 Today's dollars.

00:26:04.000 Yeah.

00:26:05.000 Wow.

00:26:06.000 And you got to remember back then, bro, like a cop made like $15,000 a year and risked his life every day.

00:26:15.000 This was Detroit PD or Detroit PD.

00:26:17.000 So for them, like me and Myron would be in the car and they pull us over and they see you got on a rollie or something.

00:26:25.000 And they're like, let me get that watch, bro.

00:26:28.000 And then I'll be like, hey, Myron, they got your watch down at Zeidman's loan for sale.

00:26:33.000 He was like, what?

00:26:34.000 And that was, bro, they would rob you.

00:26:38.000 That was the way it was.

00:26:40.000 So you didn't want to just pay them off.

00:26:42.000 And he'd be like, yo, listen.

00:26:43.000 Eventually, that's where we, you know, you get to that.

00:26:45.000 But you also have ones like in Scarface, where the dude says, well, what if somebody pushes up on me that I ain't paying?

00:26:53.000 And they would push up on you that you weren't paying.

00:26:56.000 And then you got to pay another one and another one and another one.

00:26:59.000 So eventually you're like, bro, fuck, I ain't paying nobody.

00:27:03.000 It never ends.

00:27:04.000 Never.

00:27:04.000 Everybody's got their hand out, bro.

00:27:07.000 Back then, politicians, police, whatever it was, bro.

00:27:12.000 How correct?

00:27:13.000 Was it where like, it was government officials or was it really everybody?

00:27:16.000 Bro, we were, we were for 50 G's, we would shut down the airport and land a private jet.

00:27:21.000 What?

00:27:22.000 Oh, yeah.

00:27:24.000 Yeah, my case was the biggest police corruption case in the history of Detroit.

00:27:29.000 Like, motherfuckers could say whatever they want. 0.97

00:27:31.000 My friends from back then are my friends to this day.

00:27:34.000 I never did no dirt to my friends.

00:27:36.000 I did dirt to police because they did dirt to me.

00:27:38.000 Right.

00:27:39.000 So fuck them.

00:27:41.000 We never took an oath to serve and protect.

00:27:43.000 They did, and they were dirtier than us.

00:27:46.000 Wow.

00:27:47.000 I'll never forget the first raid I ever got caught in.

00:27:50.000 They stole all the jewelry.

00:27:52.000 And I think we had like $70,000 in the house that was supposed to leave.

00:27:58.000 And we get caught in this house with all these guns, jewelry this month.

00:28:01.000 And dude was like, who's signing for this $3,000?

00:28:05.000 And I was like, $3,000?

00:28:07.000 I said, man, you might as well keep all that shit.

00:28:12.000 If you turn in three bands, you might well just keep it all.

00:28:14.000 Say we didn't have nothing.

00:28:16.000 Wow.

00:28:17.000 That's not corrupt.

00:28:18.000 Bro, down here, bro, it was worse.

00:28:22.000 Like, you guys are too young, but the Miami River cops, like, if you Google them, that was a real deal.

00:28:29.000 They would lay on the river.

00:28:30.000 They would lay on the river by Kiki and rob a thousand keys coming in on a boat.

00:28:36.000 And they ended up killing some people.

00:28:39.000 Whoa.

00:28:40.000 I remember that case.

00:28:41.000 Yeah, bro.

00:28:42.000 Like, that shit was.

00:28:43.000 Crazy, right?

00:28:43.000 We were a crazy time.

00:28:45.000 So what ended up happening?

00:28:47.000 Did the FBI run like a corruption case against the Detroit Police Department?

00:28:50.000 And then you testified on behalf of the government?

00:28:52.000 I never testified.

00:28:53.000 You never testified?

00:28:53.000 I never had to testify against anybody, bro.

00:28:56.000 They knew, listen, they had wiretaps.

00:28:58.000 The whole thing started one day.

00:29:00.000 This agent came to see me and he was like, just listen.

00:29:03.000 And I listened to a tape that they had from the police.

00:29:07.000 And basically, it was like, man, fuck him.

00:29:09.000 Ain't nobody going to believe him.

00:29:11.000 And I never forget.

00:29:13.000 He was like, sit on that for a little while.

00:29:16.000 And I digested it.

00:29:18.000 And I was like, I was young.

00:29:20.000 I think I was 19.

00:29:21.000 I was like, fuck them.

00:29:23.000 Fuck them too.

00:29:24.000 Let's go.

00:29:25.000 Really?

00:29:26.000 Yeah.

00:29:27.000 They were.

00:29:28.000 So you didn't testify, but like you cooperated with them and told them who the dirty cops were.

00:29:33.000 And what happened was the police were so hungry, Myron, for money that they thought this dude was my plug.

00:29:41.000 And they approached him.

00:29:43.000 Which, which he was undercover?

00:29:45.000 I was going to ask that.

00:29:46.000 Okay, so, all right.

00:29:47.000 So there was an undercover FBI agent that they thought was my plug.

00:29:52.000 And they never cut into the police.

00:29:55.000 The police cut into them.

00:29:57.000 Okay.

00:29:57.000 So let me like, did the cops Rob you and the undercover agent?

00:30:02.000 No.

00:30:03.000 Uh-uh.

00:30:03.000 Oh.

00:30:04.000 This was after I was already in prison when all that started.

00:30:09.000 The police corruption case happened after I was incarcerated.

00:30:12.000 Gotcha.

00:30:13.000 Okay.

00:30:14.000 I think I was incarcerated about two, maybe three years when that happened.

00:30:19.000 Okay.

00:30:20.000 So you got arrested already for, was it state or federal?

00:30:23.000 You went and started.

00:30:24.000 Yes, you went to state, and then FBI started building a federal case against the corrupt police officer.

00:30:29.000 Yes.

00:30:29.000 And they knew I was in the middle of it.

00:30:31.000 Listen.

00:30:31.000 Gotcha.

00:30:32.000 I've already talked to you a few times.

00:30:33.000 Yeah, in reality, I could have got indicted with him.

00:30:36.000 You know what I mean?

00:30:36.000 But I was serving a life sentence.

00:30:39.000 What else are you going to do to me?

00:30:42.000 I was 17.

00:30:43.000 My boy was 16.

00:30:44.000 They gave us both life without parole, kids for drugs.

00:30:47.000 This is before the drug reform laws, right?

00:30:49.000 Yeah, who, who, but, but who in their right mind?

00:30:52.000 Like, this is America, bro.

00:30:54.000 Like, who in their right mind gives a child?

00:31:00.000 When they sentenced us, they sentenced us to the rest of our natural life.

00:31:06.000 Wow.

00:31:07.000 Honest to God.

00:31:08.000 And what was the amount that they actually convicted you on?

00:31:11.000 17 pounds of cocaine.

00:31:14.000 Wow.

00:31:15.000 That's incredible.

00:31:16.000 Wow.

00:31:17.000 And mind you, a friend of mine who I'm trying to get on y'all show, Torizo Dominguez, like he was Pablo's main smuggler.

00:31:26.000 His case in Detroit was seven tons of cocaine.

00:31:31.000 He got 11 years.

00:31:33.000 Yeah.

00:31:34.000 And no one knows his name.

00:31:37.000 Never missed a load, right?

00:31:38.000 Never lost one load.

00:31:40.000 Oh, wow.

00:31:41.000 Anybody read the book, The Accountant, by Roberto Escobar?

00:31:45.000 This is Pablo's brother saying this, not Tito.

00:31:48.000 They say they knew Tito.

00:31:50.000 Tito don't say they knew him.

00:31:51.000 Tito's a real, he was the first Lamborghini dealer in South Florida.

00:31:55.000 That's how I met him when I was a kid.

00:31:57.000 Wow.

00:31:58.000 Then I got in the drug game.

00:31:59.000 I was like, Tito, what you doing here?

00:32:02.000 He was like, what the fuck you doing here?

00:32:04.000 So when you got sentenced to life, what was going through your mind?

00:32:08.000 Like, was it like, it's honest to God?

00:32:10.000 Like, I don't think, I think I was so young that I didn't digest for a couple years that these motherfuckers are trying to make me die in prison. 0.59

00:32:24.000 So once that settled in, bro, I started fighting and I never gave up, bro.

00:32:33.000 So in jail, do you have friends there?

00:32:36.000 Was it more like you were on your own?

00:32:38.000 Your homeboy was in there too?

00:32:39.000 No, I had, I have, listen, bro.

00:32:41.000 When you get to prison and you're from the hood, like all your homeboys that disappeared, you run back into them.

00:32:47.000 I was like, man, I wonder what happened to you.

00:32:49.000 He was like, man, I've been here two years, man.

00:32:51.000 I've been here.

00:32:52.000 Bro, I seen so many people that, you know, you knew loosely in the hood, and they just, that's where they ended up.

00:33:00.000 Are race politics as big a deal in Michigan state prison as it is in like Texas or California where race is a big thing?

00:33:07.000 Or is it more based on clicks, friendships, who you know?

00:33:11.000 Listen, bro, race is every in every prison.

00:33:19.000 You have, you know, race problems. 0.88

00:33:22.000 But it's, bro, I grew up in the hood.

00:33:25.000 So like some white dudes used to be like, bro, how come they don't bother you? 0.67

00:33:29.000 Or how come this?

00:33:30.000 And I was like, bro, these are my people.

00:33:33.000 But I couldn't tell them not to do nothing to them.

00:33:35.000 Fuck, I was glad that I was good.

00:33:39.000 So, but, you know.

00:33:40.000 So when you're in prison, you sat with the blacks. 0.99

00:33:44.000 Yeah, I hung out.

00:33:45.000 I hung out mostly.

00:33:46.000 But I had all friends, bro.

00:33:48.000 White, black, Spanish. 1.00

00:33:50.000 But like when I played ball or softball or my boy that passed away today, McKnight Bay, God rest his soul.

00:33:57.000 Like, that was my brother.

00:33:58.000 You know what I mean?

00:34:00.000 We were tight, bro.

00:34:01.000 Because I know other state prisons, like, race is a big, like, even if you can't, even if you're white, right, and you, all your people are black, you got to stay with the white people because the race politics are that strong.

00:34:10.000 Oh, yeah.

00:34:10.000 So I wasn't sure what it was like in Michigan.

00:34:13.000 Listen, bro, there's politics everywhere.

00:34:18.000 Of course.

00:34:19.000 Prison politics, we call it our yard politics.

00:34:22.000 But, bro, if you have that level of respect, I'm not going to talk to you because these white dudes don't want to talk to you.

00:34:29.000 So it's not like as strict as California and these other places.

00:34:33.000 There's places you get murdered.

00:34:34.000 Of course.

00:34:34.000 Don't get it twisted.

00:34:35.000 Yeah, Michigan.

00:34:35.000 Yeah.

00:34:36.000 Yeah.

00:34:36.000 Like California.

00:34:37.000 The feds, Marion.

00:34:39.000 They'll murder your ass. 0.99

00:34:40.000 You're a very good networker, man.

00:34:42.000 That's what I do.

00:34:43.000 Yeah.

00:34:44.000 Okay.

00:34:44.000 So in jail, you said you went into fights.

00:34:47.000 Was it with like a certain set of people?

00:34:49.000 No, bro.

00:34:50.000 I had two fights in 32 years, 33 years.

00:34:54.000 And one of them was with a little, you know, you get a little older and kid pop off and sock him in the mouth.

00:35:01.000 Okay.

00:35:02.000 We end up in the hole and he's like, damn, OG.

00:35:04.000 And I'm like, bro, like, he was like, man, I wasn't going to touch you.

00:35:09.000 I said, we're in the kitchen.

00:35:10.000 I told you.

00:35:11.000 Like, that's just how things happen.

00:35:14.000 What was the worst thing you saw in jail?

00:35:15.000 Like, the worst thing you saw, like, somebody die or something?

00:35:17.000 My first day.

00:35:18.000 I helped Justin Timberlake with his last movie.

00:35:20.000 I told you that.

00:35:22.000 The one he played ex-convict.

00:35:25.000 And he was like, bro, give me your first day.

00:35:28.000 Like, and I'll never forget.

00:35:31.000 I was talking to my mom and it was called, it's Michigan Reformatory.

00:35:36.000 You could look it up.

00:35:37.000 They called it Gladiator School.

00:35:38.000 25 and under.

00:35:40.000 And almost everybody had life or 40 or 50 years.

00:35:45.000 And I see this big shank getting passed down the phones.

00:35:48.000 And I'm, of course, I'm from the street, but like, bro, you walk into prison and it's like life-changing.

00:35:55.000 So I see this shank and I'm like, oh, is this for me? 0.99

00:35:58.000 So now I'm watching it.

00:36:00.000 And I see the shank get to this dude.

00:36:01.000 And I won't say his name, but I see the shank stop. 1.00

00:36:06.000 And there was this big, tall brother.

00:36:07.000 I'll never forget his name was 6'9, they called him.

00:36:10.000 And, bro, they grabbed him by his neck on the phone and just started hitting him in the neck, bro.

00:36:16.000 And I hung up the phone and I went upstairs and I was like, the guard was like, get ready.

00:36:22.000 Because every day and every day I was there at that prison, something popped off, bro.

00:36:28.000 Every day.

00:36:30.000 That sounds brutal.

00:36:30.000 It's...

00:36:32.000 It ain't...

00:36:36.000 Bro, it's a hard way to live, bro.

00:36:38.000 But you get used to it, but it's no way to live, bro.

00:36:44.000 I'll tell you one thing, man.

00:36:45.000 I don't want to go to jail, bro.

00:36:46.000 Hell no.

00:36:47.000 Sounds scary.

00:36:49.000 So, like, okay, so I guess, did you go to trial or did you plead guilty?

00:36:54.000 I went to trial.

00:36:55.000 I went to trial.

00:36:56.000 Okay.

00:36:56.000 You went to trial, you lost.

00:36:58.000 Take us through like that day when they're there, you know, when they told you guilty verdict.

00:37:03.000 And then obviously the bailiffs took you to the jail or whatever.

00:37:06.000 Like, take us through that day.

00:37:07.000 My jury was deadlocked for a little while.

00:37:11.000 And, you know, it was like the third day or something.

00:37:15.000 I got convicted.

00:37:17.000 And it just, bro, like I said, I think the first day I was like in shock because I didn't get caught with anything.

00:37:27.000 I didn't think I would get, you know, convicted.

00:37:30.000 I was a kid, too.

00:37:31.000 And then you got sentenced later on, right?

00:37:33.000 So you got convicted that day?

00:37:34.000 Two to three weeks.

00:37:35.000 Two to three weeks later, then you came.

00:37:36.000 They do a PSI report, pre-sentence investigation, all this bullshit.

00:37:42.000 and then they gave you 33 years.

00:37:44.000 And then from there, I'm assuming that's when they moved you to the penitentiary.

00:37:47.000 You're probably in a state jail waiting, right?

00:37:48.000 I was in a county jail.

00:37:49.000 They claimed you went to jail.

00:37:50.000 Okay.

00:37:51.000 And then when you went to the take us through like that first day of penitentiary, so they obviously they remand you after they give you the after they um sent it to you and then what when i got to prison yeah like that first day yeah when they actually like that was like bro when you get there of course which penitentiary was it michigan reformatory okay people could say whatever they want bro i don't give a fuck who you are your first day in prison you're scared bro yeah

00:38:21.000 Yeah.

00:38:22.000 Like, bro, I've seen the biggest, toughest.

00:38:24.000 And they put you on the adults, right?

00:38:26.000 Yeah.

00:38:26.000 And I've seen the, bro, I've seen dudes that I never in a million years thought would commit suicide.

00:38:32.000 Really?

00:38:33.000 Like, bro, I've seen.

00:38:38.000 Common occurrence?

00:38:39.000 Yeah.

00:38:39.000 Very common.

00:38:40.000 More common than you can imagine.

00:38:42.000 Like, dudes just can't deal with it, bro.

00:38:44.000 Or they try and get you on pill line, shit like that.

00:38:48.000 These are like big, tall dudes.

00:38:50.000 Yeah, bro.

00:38:51.000 Like, in shape and stuff.

00:38:52.000 Yeah.

00:38:52.000 Like, you would never in a million years think, oh, dude's going to check himself out.

00:38:57.000 But he'll check himself out.

00:38:59.000 So, you get in there that first day, change clothes, everything else they bring you in.

00:39:05.000 Like, did you?

00:39:05.000 I had some homeboys there, like some older dudes that some of my people on the street, like, they sent me a care package and this and that.

00:39:16.000 So, like, my first day there, like, they were like, oh, you know, this, this, and this.

00:39:21.000 And, you know, I was skeptical to take it, but they were like, oh, this is from such and such.

00:39:25.000 Okay.

00:39:26.000 And, like, they said, oh, this is from Myron.

00:39:28.000 So, I was like, oh, this is good.

00:39:29.000 But Myron's still on the street.

00:39:31.000 Can you tell the audience real quick why you were reluctant to take anything from anybody?

00:39:33.000 Because they might not understand why.

00:39:35.000 Bro, because in prison you really don't want to be in debt to anybody or owe anybody anything.

00:39:40.000 Or it might be a way, you know, for somebody to try you.

00:39:44.000 Yeah.

00:39:44.000 You know what I mean?

00:39:45.000 So, and it's just something you don't want to get involved in, bro.

00:39:49.000 Okay.

00:39:51.000 So, I saw a video a couple years ago.

00:39:52.000 This might take a different turn.

00:39:55.000 The booty warrior, right?

00:39:57.000 What?

00:39:57.000 So, in jail, this is a guy that's like a booty warrior.

00:40:01.000 He looks for booties of people to attack.

00:40:04.000 Oh, bro, that's a real deal.

00:40:06.000 That's real?

00:40:06.000 Bro, they got predators.

00:40:09.000 Like, you know, like, this dude's a predator.

00:40:11.000 This dude's a predator.

00:40:12.000 This dude's a predator.

00:40:13.000 You know.

00:40:14.000 Damn.

00:40:15.000 But they know, they also know who to prey on.

00:40:18.000 You know what I mean?

00:40:19.000 But it's, they had some dudes in there that they were booty bandits. 1.00

00:40:25.000 That's what they did.

00:40:26.000 Where I used to see, there was dudes in there that would fuck dudes. 1.00

00:40:29.000 Then I see them in the visiting room hugged up with their girlfriend.

00:40:32.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:40:33.000 What?

00:40:35.000 Like, like.

00:40:36.000 The hell he?

00:40:37.000 No, like, that's real deal, bro.

00:40:39.000 They call it gay for the stay.

00:40:41.000 You're only gay for the stay. 1.00

00:40:44.000 No!

00:40:44.000 Bro, that's gay.

00:40:47.000 That's really gay. 1.00

00:40:48.000 Oh, no.

00:40:49.000 Wait, wait.

00:40:51.000 So they would smash a dude and then hug up their girl in the waiting room?

00:40:54.000 Bro.

00:40:55.000 Yeah.

00:40:55.000 That's diabolical, bro.

00:40:57.000 I'm trying to think here.

00:40:59.000 Does, yeah, I was going to ask that, actually.

00:41:02.000 Does the state of Michigan allow conjugal visits?

00:41:03.000 Hell no.

00:41:04.000 No, right?

00:41:05.000 Okay.

00:41:05.000 Some states allow it.

00:41:06.000 Very few.

00:41:07.000 Yeah.

00:41:07.000 Honest to God, I don't even know.

00:41:09.000 New York might be like one of the last ones.

00:41:13.000 Yeah.

00:41:13.000 But it's very, I would bet you it's under five.

00:41:16.000 Yeah.

00:41:16.000 Fellas, don't go to prison, bro.

00:41:18.000 It ain't worth it, man.

00:41:19.000 That's when it's terrible, bro.

00:41:21.000 It's like hell on earth.

00:41:22.000 Yeah.

00:41:24.000 So, okay.

00:41:24.000 Okay.

00:41:24.000 So, when did you find out that you were going to get free from jail?

00:41:27.000 Was it like a letter or they called you in and said, hey, listen, you're going to get time reduced?

00:41:33.000 We kept suing.

00:41:34.000 We kept suing.

00:41:34.000 Like, God rest his soul.

00:41:36.000 Like, this lawyer, Ralph Maselli, who knew me as a kid.

00:41:40.000 He came back on my case, bro.

00:41:42.000 And, bro, he just fought and fought and fought.

00:41:46.000 And one thing I'll say, bro, this dude never took a dollar from me, bro.

00:41:50.000 Really?

00:41:50.000 To keep my, to keep my, I guess my spirits up or my hope alive.

00:41:58.000 He used to tell me, he used to be like, you're going to need that money when I get you out.

00:42:02.000 You're going to need that when I get you.

00:42:03.000 Bro, this dude paid for everything.

00:42:05.000 He paid filing fees.

00:42:07.000 He paid this.

00:42:07.000 And he said, when you get out, I'm going to retire.

00:42:10.000 And he died 90 days after I got out, bro.

00:42:13.000 Wow.

00:42:14.000 Did you ever, like, pay him back anything?

00:42:16.000 Or, like.

00:42:16.000 I went.

00:42:17.000 He never wanted none from me, fresh.

00:42:18.000 He just, he just wanted me free, bro.

00:42:20.000 Wow.

00:42:21.000 That's a good-ass dude.

00:42:23.000 Like, he knew you from, like, as a child.

00:42:27.000 Yeah.

00:42:27.000 Do you know, like, your mom and dad?

00:42:28.000 Or.

00:42:28.000 Oh, he knew my dad.

00:42:30.000 And he worked in another law firm where we knew where my original lawyer was from.

00:42:35.000 So, he was a good man, bro.

00:42:37.000 I do thing in his honor now for charity.

00:42:39.000 So, like, I do this thing, love for a child.

00:42:43.000 Where we send foster kids to summer camp.

00:42:46.000 And in the last four years, I think I've given them about $125,000.

00:42:50.000 Good.

00:42:51.000 I've raised for them.

00:42:51.000 I just gave them a check the day before I came here.

00:42:54.000 So.

00:42:54.000 Wow.

00:42:55.000 But we try and do positive things, bro.

00:42:58.000 Like, I just paid a little young kid.

00:43:01.000 They give these kids fines. 0.85

00:43:03.000 If you're a juvenile, how the fuck are you going to pay a fine?

00:43:07.000 So, my boy Danny Hirani, God bless him.

00:43:10.000 Got so educated in there.

00:43:11.000 And.

00:43:12.000 He.

00:43:14.000 His judge ended up letting him out for a double murder.

00:43:17.000 Danny has like four degrees.

00:43:18.000 Sits on the National Sheriff's Board.

00:43:20.000 Like, Danny's OG, bro.

00:43:22.000 But smart as fuck.

00:43:24.000 Wow.

00:43:24.000 And we worked together at Team Wellness.

00:43:26.000 And.

00:43:27.000 A juvenile restorative rights program.

00:43:29.000 He called me.

00:43:30.000 He was like, hey man.

00:43:30.000 The judge said if this kid don't pay his fines.

00:43:34.000 And it's on my Instagram.

00:43:35.000 He did a video and everything.

00:43:37.000 And I was like, bro, how much is it?

00:43:39.000 And.

00:43:39.000 My fund.

00:43:40.000 My 501C.

00:43:41.000 Where she's away wrote the check.

00:43:43.000 And we paid the little kids fines.

00:43:45.000 Good stuff, man.

00:43:45.000 I don't want them to go to jail, bro.

00:43:47.000 Yeah.

00:43:47.000 And I don't want them to commit a crime.

00:43:49.000 You know.

00:43:50.000 These.

00:43:51.000 I don't want to say anything derogatory about these judges.

00:43:54.000 But.

00:43:55.000 You know.

00:43:55.000 You.

00:43:56.000 You give a kid.

00:43:57.000 That's under 18 years old.

00:43:59.000 Court costs are fine.

00:44:00.000 What do you want them to do to pay it?

00:44:04.000 Go sell crack on the corner?

00:44:05.000 How they gonna pay it, yeah.

00:44:06.000 He's not even an adult.

00:44:08.000 And.

00:44:08.000 If his mom and dad can't.

00:44:10.000 Pay it.

00:44:11.000 You're gonna lock this kid up.

00:44:13.000 So.

00:44:13.000 Wherever we can try and give back.

00:44:15.000 We give back, bro.

00:44:15.000 So your first day out.

00:44:17.000 What'd you do?

00:44:18.000 Where'd you go?

00:44:19.000 What'd you talk to?

00:44:20.000 Was it like.

00:44:21.000 I'm coming home.

00:44:22.000 Like.

00:44:23.000 I'm back.

00:44:23.000 My first day home.

00:44:25.000 I came to Miami.

00:44:26.000 Really?

00:44:27.000 Yeah.

00:44:27.000 Who'd you see?

00:44:28.000 I went and seen my boy.

00:44:31.000 In Coral Gables.

00:44:32.000 At Formula Motor Cars.

00:44:33.000 That I used to buy cars from in the 80s.

00:44:35.000 And we started filming a new documentary.

00:44:38.000 When did the movie come out?

00:44:40.000 I think 2017.

00:44:42.000 17.

00:44:43.000 While you were still.

00:44:44.000 I was locked up, yeah.

00:44:45.000 Did you ever watch it?

00:44:47.000 Never in my life.

00:44:48.000 I never will.

00:44:49.000 It's fake as fuck.

00:44:51.000 You were with me and boo.

00:44:52.000 They made it like I did something.

00:44:53.000 to Boo and his brother.

00:44:54.000 Yeah.

00:44:55.000 Like, first of all, I never really worked for the Curry Boys.

00:44:58.000 I have my own plug, so me and Boo got money together, and Boo will tell you that.

00:45:03.000 Right.

00:45:03.000 Like, so, the movie's just Hollywood, bro, and when people see me and Boo together, they're like, what the fuck?

00:45:10.000 But that's my brother, man.

00:45:12.000 Damn, so basically, the movie was not really accurate.

00:45:14.000 It's Hollywood, bro.

00:45:15.000 It's Hollywood.

00:45:15.000 It's, you know, like, I'm sure there's things in there that are a little bit accurate, But the twist that I saw that they put on it, like, I have no...

00:45:32.000 And Scott is now the biggest writer in Hollywood.

00:45:36.000 Shout out to him.

00:45:37.000 And he wrote Eight Mile.

00:45:39.000 He wrote The Fighter.

00:45:40.000 He wrote The New Joker, the first billion-dollar rated R movie ever.

00:45:44.000 And me and him became so close, bro, that when they kicked him off the movie, I checked out with him.

00:45:50.000 Right.

00:45:50.000 And, you know, this man offered to pay.

00:45:53.000 He said, your first year home, I'm going to pay for you to live wherever you want to live because I don't want you to have any stress on you.

00:46:00.000 And by God's grace, I didn't need his money.

00:46:04.000 That's good.

00:46:05.000 But we're still amazing friends to this day.

00:46:08.000 He's the only one out of the whole movie circle that I communicate with and, you know, that I believe is my true friend.

00:46:16.000 Did you ever have like a girlfriend or something you dated?

00:46:19.000 Like when you came out of prison?

00:46:20.000 Or before?

00:46:21.000 Or no?

00:46:22.000 Yeah, of course.

00:46:23.000 Like you have short-term relationships in prison or you can't have a relationship in prison, bro.

00:46:28.000 Yeah, it's hard.

00:46:29.000 You know, but you know, when I came home, I had a special person in my life.

00:46:34.000 I kind of fucked that up.

00:46:36.000 Miami fucked it up.

00:46:38.000 Of course, Miami does, bro.

00:46:40.000 I still love her to death.

00:46:41.000 You know what I mean?

00:46:42.000 I would die for her, but I fucked that up.

00:46:44.000 I'm a man, I admit it.

00:46:46.000 Hey, keeping it real.

00:46:48.000 Honesty is the best possible.

00:46:49.000 That's all I am.

00:46:49.000 That's all you get from me.

00:46:51.000 Honesty.

00:46:51.000 Do you live here in Miami or do you got a spot in Detroit?

00:46:54.000 I live both, but I live primarily here.

00:46:56.000 I'm a primary.

00:46:56.000 Okay.

00:46:57.000 Well, how, as someone that's a Detroit native, what are your thoughts on how the city has progressed over the past couple of decades, man?

00:47:06.000 It's really fallen from grace.

00:47:08.000 What are your thoughts on Detroit in general?

00:47:12.000 Used to be the motor boom city. 1.00

00:47:14.000 Used to be the motor city.

00:47:16.000 And if you go downtown, it's beautiful.

00:47:19.000 Like a lot of people have put a lot of money in there.

00:47:23.000 Dan Gilbert, the Illiches, like we brought the Pistons back from the suburbs to downtown.

00:47:30.000 Downtown is beautiful.

00:47:32.000 Was it the palace?

00:47:32.000 Is where they used to play?

00:47:33.000 Yes.

00:47:34.000 That's gone now.

00:47:35.000 Vacant lot.

00:47:36.000 Okay.

00:47:36.000 Beautiful building, but vacant.

00:47:38.000 So they moved them back.

00:47:39.000 We're back in Little Caesars Arena downtown.

00:47:42.000 Beautiful arena the Illiches built.

00:47:44.000 I'm good friends with some of them, very good people.

00:47:46.000 They do a lot for the community.

00:47:48.000 You know, Dan Gilbert, God bless him, doing a lot for the city.

00:47:54.000 But the problem is, bro, nobody is doing anything for the neighborhoods, bro.

00:48:01.000 It's like I hope that, you know, we're trying to get a new mayor right now.

00:48:09.000 And our current mayor is running for governor.

00:48:12.000 And I hope he doesn't win.

00:48:14.000 He lied, kept me in prison 18 extra years.

00:48:17.000 Oh, wow.

00:48:18.000 Corrupt politician, the corruptist that Mike Duggan.

00:48:21.000 He's a lie.

00:48:22.000 Bro, you don't know what this dude did to me, bro.

00:48:25.000 And it's the truth.

00:48:26.000 Not me saying it.

00:48:27.000 Was he in the criminal justice world before?

00:48:29.000 When he became a politician?

00:48:30.000 He was a prosecutor.

00:48:32.000 At the time when I went to get out of prison in 2003, this man wrote a letter, and the whole letter was all lies, bro.

00:48:40.000 Marvin, when I tell you it was all lies, Myron, I mean all lies, bro.

00:48:45.000 Nothing in this letter was true.

00:48:47.000 Why did he take such a hard?

00:48:48.000 Was he like the prosecutor on your case?

00:48:50.000 No, he happened to be the head prosecutor.

00:48:53.000 Get this.

00:48:54.000 One of my lawyers was the number two prosecutor when I went to get out.

00:49:00.000 And he was also corrupt.

00:49:04.000 One of my attorneys from when I got in trouble.

00:49:06.000 Was an ADA before you became a leader?

00:49:11.000 After I went to prison, Sam Gardner became the number two prosecutor in Wayne County under Mike Duggan.

00:49:19.000 I talked to Sam.

00:49:20.000 He's like, don't worry about nothing.

00:49:21.000 Bah, blah, blah.

00:49:22.000 Never talked to me again.

00:49:23.000 They flipped the whole script on me.

00:49:26.000 And one of the police officers that I had cooperated against sent another cop to say, bro, they just lied.

00:49:35.000 The whole hearing was rigged and fabricated.

00:49:38.000 Kid Rock sat there and he tried to help me, bro.

00:49:41.000 God bless him.

00:49:42.000 And he was in shock.

00:49:43.000 Wow.

00:49:44.000 Like, when I tell you the things they accused me of, I was a child, bro.

00:49:49.000 Like, they're saying that I did.

00:49:50.000 This is 2003.

00:49:51.000 Yeah.

00:49:52.000 You went in in the 80s?

00:49:53.000 I went in in 87.

00:49:54.000 You went in in 87, so we're talking almost 20 years later.

00:49:58.000 So I'm assuming this was like a parole board.

00:50:01.000 I had to parley.

00:50:02.000 They changed the law, the Eighth Amendment, which is what I built my brand around.

00:50:06.000 And I became eligible for parole.

00:50:09.000 All my friends got paroled.

00:50:11.000 And I was the only one out of everybody under that law that they kept for 33 years.

00:50:17.000 Gotcha.

00:50:17.000 So they denied you.

00:50:18.000 And this guy who is mayor now, who's running for governor, he was instrumental in keeping you in.

00:50:23.000 Absolutely.

00:50:24.000 Why the hell did he have such a vested interest in keeping you in?

00:50:26.000 Bro, one of his friends was like Gil Hill was like a high-ranking, he was the head of homicide.

00:50:33.000 And the way I understand it, I guess they were very close.

00:50:36.000 Okay.

00:50:37.000 And Gil tried to put an innocent person in prison for killing a little kid.

00:50:43.000 And I didn't know what I was doing.

00:50:45.000 I was like, man, that dude didn't kill this dude.

00:50:48.000 And it opened up a floodgate, bro.

00:50:51.000 This dude, they did not let me out until Gil Hill.

00:50:54.000 So because of your comment on a separate homicide investigation, they made sure to keep you in jail.

00:50:59.000 Absolutely.

00:51:00.000 100%.

00:51:01.000 That's matters.

00:51:01.000 Proven facts.

00:51:02.000 Proven facts.

00:51:03.000 You're giving an opinion that you thought he was innocent.

00:51:06.000 They let the guy go based on my guy that they Gil Hill took a bribe.

00:51:11.000 Gil Hill took a bribe to cover the murder up, and he locks up Fresh.

00:51:15.000 And I'm like, Fresh didn't kill that kid, but I was 15.

00:51:19.000 I didn't realize the power that this dude had.

00:51:21.000 But I knew that it was wrong for Fresh to go to jail for this.

00:51:26.000 Right.

00:51:27.000 Okay.

00:51:27.000 So you gave evidence, I guess, to get the guy off, and they were not happy about that.

00:51:33.000 Because they wanted to prosecute.

00:51:34.000 They followed me for 30-some years, bro.

00:51:36.000 I did not get out of prison until Gil Hill passed away.

00:51:40.000 And Gil Hill was Eddie Murphy's boss in Beverly Hills Cop.

00:51:45.000 Okay.

00:51:46.000 Wow.

00:51:46.000 All right.

00:51:47.000 Because in my head, I'm like, why are they so hella bent on going after a juvenile that sold drugs?

00:51:52.000 It was all these politicians that knew shit about each other.

00:51:56.000 So when they call and they say, Myron, do this.

00:51:59.000 And I know shit about you.

00:52:00.000 I'm going to do it.

00:52:01.000 Gotcha.

00:52:02.000 Okay.

00:52:03.000 So basically.

00:52:04.000 The cop that testified against me at my parole hearing ended up in prison with me.

00:52:10.000 Oh, really?

00:52:11.000 In prison with me.

00:52:12.000 What'd he going for?

00:52:14.000 racketeering some drugs.

00:52:16.000 He was a huge...

00:52:24.000 Like, he's in my documentary.

00:52:26.000 Like, he told the truth.

00:52:27.000 He said, they told me to do this.

00:52:30.000 So I'll never forget his first day there.

00:52:34.000 I was friends with some guys that were in a gang.

00:52:38.000 We won't say which gang.

00:52:39.000 And they came to me and they were like, bro, we're going to buck 50 him.

00:52:43.000 And if you don't know what a buck 50 is, slice in the face.

00:52:46.000 They're going to cut you.

00:52:48.000 And I was like, no, no, no, no, no.

00:52:50.000 Because they had already told me, yo, if anything happens to this dude, we know it's from you.

00:52:55.000 Damn.

00:52:55.000 And like, I basically looked out for this dude while he was there, bro.

00:53:00.000 I looked out for the mayor, the old mayor, Kwame Kilpatrick.

00:53:03.000 Kwame met my son.

00:53:04.000 He was like, bro, your dad looked out for me big time, bro.

00:53:07.000 Did he go to jail too?

00:53:08.000 Oh, yeah.

00:53:09.000 Me and Kwame were in prison together.

00:53:11.000 Oh, wow.

00:53:13.000 And I was an advocate for Kwame when I got out.

00:53:15.000 Kwame was still in prison.

00:53:17.000 And people got.

00:53:18.000 Were they going for bribery or corruption?

00:53:20.000 Yeah, he went in for corruption, but I was an advocate saying you don't deserve 30 years for corruption.

00:53:27.000 Yeah.

00:53:27.000 Like this man, now he's out here doing positive things.

00:53:30.000 Thank God Trump let him out, pardoned him.

00:53:33.000 And then my belief as someone who had just done 30-something years.

00:53:37.000 Did you do any Fed time or no?

00:53:39.000 I did go to the Feds for 15 years.

00:53:41.000 Okay, all right.

00:53:42.000 Because I was just going to say, because these people that are going in for corruption and stuff like that, I'm like, Kwame ended up in the state first. 0.75

00:53:48.000 Okay.

00:53:49.000 Me and Kwame were in the state together, not the feds.

00:53:52.000 Kwame had two cases.

00:53:54.000 Okay, so they got you originally for, you said 17 pounds, so like eight or nine kilos of cocaine.

00:53:59.000 It was like nine kilos.

00:54:01.000 I think there was 10 in the box that kept a couple, charged me with the rest.

00:54:04.000 So the state arrested you for that.

00:54:06.000 How did you get a federal case then?

00:54:08.000 Because of the police corruption case, I was moved to the feds because they thought the police were trying to kill me.

00:54:12.000 Oh.

00:54:15.000 So you never got convicted of any federal charges.

00:54:17.000 They just moved you to a federal prison because they were worried for your safety.

00:54:20.000 Exactly.

00:54:21.000 Oh, wow.

00:54:22.000 That never happens.

00:54:23.000 That's rare.

00:54:24.000 Okay.

00:54:24.000 Exactly.

00:54:24.000 So that's how you ended up with these corrupt cops.

00:54:27.000 Because I'm ahead.

00:54:27.000 I'm like, wait, that's got to be federal charges.

00:54:29.000 How are they seeing him in a state penitentiary?

00:54:30.000 But it's a lot of people.

00:54:32.000 Now, bro, like with RICO, I have a state RICO case that they grossly misuse.

00:54:40.000 Like a racketeering case is like they do now.

00:54:43.000 Yeah.

00:54:44.000 They tried out of a young thug in Atlanta.

00:54:45.000 It failed, but it's the most misused statue in our penal system.

00:54:50.000 Like, they, bro, these prosecutors now, some of them, there's no accountability.

00:54:55.000 So they throw as much shit as they can at the wall, like what they tried to do to young thug, bro.

00:55:01.000 Like, you know, people talk shit or whatever.

00:55:03.000 The dude didn't do anything.

00:55:05.000 He did what he could, and that was it, bro.

00:55:08.000 Like, you know, he should have never been charged with a RICO.

00:55:13.000 Yeah, they were pretty aggressive with that.

00:55:16.000 They did it with Donald Trump, too, right?

00:55:17.000 Fanny Willis had an axe of grant for sure. 1.00

00:55:20.000 Did any rappers speak on your behalf in Detroit?

00:55:24.000 Only Kid Rock at the time.

00:55:25.000 Only Kid Rock.

00:55:27.000 When you were in the feds, did they move you around a lot or did you stay in the same location?

00:55:31.000 You move around.

00:55:32.000 Like, I went to Myland.

00:55:33.000 I went to Oklahoma.

00:55:35.000 I went to FCI Phoenix.

00:55:37.000 I went, you know, but a couple places I got like six or seven year runs, but they don't want to leave you anywhere because you bribed the police.

00:55:45.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:55:46.000 And I ain't going to lie, I did.

00:55:47.000 Yeah.

00:55:48.000 You get comfortable.

00:55:49.000 They get to know you.

00:55:50.000 Like, they're not paid.

00:55:52.000 And I didn't want nothing bad.

00:55:53.000 I wanted me and Myron to eat a whopper.

00:55:56.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:55:56.000 You know what I mean?

00:55:57.000 Like, bro, you don't realize a whopper in prison is like the best meal in the world, bro.

00:56:05.000 It's a big deal.

00:56:07.000 Okay.

00:56:08.000 All right.

00:56:08.000 So they moved you in there for protection.

00:56:11.000 So when you were, because I guess you said you had like, you didn't testify, but you like cooperated against some of the cops.

00:56:16.000 How many cops did they end up arresting in that corruption case, the FBI?

00:56:20.000 If you remember.

00:56:22.000 I want to say like maybe like 19.

00:56:25.000 Wow.

00:56:26.000 So, all right, so just including the mayor's brother-in-law.

00:56:30.000 Oh, so you go in in 87.

00:56:33.000 Three years later, FBI picks up 19 cops for corruption.

00:56:37.000 While they were building up their case, you said that they came and talked to you a few times because obviously Costa Rob doing stuff.

00:56:42.000 Of course.

00:56:43.000 They knew, listen, when you're on a certain level of even here when I was a kid, when you're on a certain level, law enforcement knows what the fuck you're doing.

00:56:55.000 Yeah, of course.

00:56:56.000 People could say whatever they want.

00:56:57.000 Oh, I got away for 30 or 40 years.

00:56:59.000 Get the fuck out of here, bro.

00:57:00.000 Like, don't, these motherfuckers, like, the internet trolls and this and that. 0.78

00:57:06.000 Nobody gets away selling drugs for 30 or 40 years.

00:57:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:57:10.000 You have to.

00:57:10.000 You're snitching, bro.

00:57:11.000 Like, you cooperated in some way, shape, or form.

00:57:14.000 So people, you know, like, there's misconceptions about everything, Myron.

00:57:20.000 Unfortunate, fortunately for me, I don't give a fuck who likes me, who says what, or whatever.

00:57:25.000 I know who I am.

00:57:26.000 I know what I did.

00:57:27.000 I'm comfortable in my own skin.

00:57:29.000 I came home.

00:57:29.000 I did 33 years.

00:57:31.000 In two years, I built a multi-million dollar company.

00:57:33.000 Yep.

00:57:34.000 So I don't, I don't, like, bro, I just, I am who I am, brother.

00:57:41.000 Yeah.

00:57:41.000 That's, that's me.

00:57:42.000 I've been a hustler my whole life.

00:57:44.000 I know how to survive on my own.

00:57:46.000 I know, you know, I know good people.

00:57:48.000 When me and Fresh met, I think it's close to a year, like another brother of ours, Zach out of Vegas, I love him, plugged us in together.

00:57:57.000 I do the Martin Luther King podcast with him every year.

00:57:59.000 Zach's introduced me to amazing retired athletes, current athletes.

00:58:04.000 Like he's an OG.

00:58:05.000 They own Hardy and Cannabis out in Vegas.

00:58:08.000 So Zach is the one that met us with Tyga in Vegas for Super Bowl.

00:58:13.000 Remember?

00:58:14.000 He took bodyguard?

00:58:15.000 No.

00:58:16.000 The owner, one of the managers that place.

00:58:18.000 He took a lot of people.

00:58:19.000 Oh, okay.

00:58:20.000 I think I remember, yeah.

00:58:21.000 Typically, Brown. 0.98

00:58:22.000 Yeah, all of them.

00:58:23.000 Shout out to him.

00:58:24.000 Shout out to Zach.

00:58:25.000 So while you were in, FBI agents started coming into you, coming and asking you questions about certain cops.

00:58:30.000 Yeah, of course.

00:58:30.000 They obviously asked you about, hey, do you know this guy?

00:58:32.000 Do you know this guy?

00:58:33.000 Of course.

00:58:34.000 And then how many would you say had been involved?

00:58:38.000 Because they're ripping you, right?

00:58:39.000 They were stealing drugs from you, money from you, whatever.

00:58:41.000 How many were involved that you knew at least?

00:58:44.000 Three, four? 0.63

00:58:45.000 Police?

00:58:45.000 Yeah, like that robbed you or did some bullshit to you.

00:58:48.000 Listen, bro, like in the hood.

00:58:50.000 The FBI was looking at, I mean, specifically.

00:58:52.000 I mean, I can't tell you that, honestly.

00:58:54.000 But in the hood, like, Yeah, they had a crew that they knew this is what they were doing.

00:59:02.000 Gotcha.

00:59:03.000 And I think they had someone else in Cleveland that was tied up with these guys that I didn't even know about.

00:59:09.000 Gotcha.

00:59:10.000 So Ohio is our border city.

00:59:12.000 So they were doing their, bro, these guys were, they were worse than street thugs.

00:59:17.000 Oh, yeah, of course.

00:59:18.000 Like these guys were thugs with badges.

00:59:19.000 Yeah.

00:59:20.000 They'd lock you up.

00:59:21.000 They'd rob you.

00:59:22.000 They this, they that, like, whatever.

00:59:24.000 Bro, they, they beat the fuck out of me so bad the day this happened.

00:59:28.000 I went to the hospital, bro.

00:59:29.000 Like, they were like, bro, what the fuck happened?

00:59:32.000 Bro, my face was disfigured.

00:59:34.000 I was, bro, he choked me with a chain, pulled me over a fence by my chain.

00:59:39.000 Like, they almost killed me, bro.

00:59:41.000 Let me ask you this.

00:59:42.000 So when you cooperated with the feds to put these dirty cops away, did you do it secretly to avoid anyone talking shit or did it not matter because they were dirty cops?

00:59:51.000 Like how did you kind of You know what I mean?

00:59:57.000 Like, but to be real with you, no street motherfucker gives a fuck about a dirty cop. 0.51

01:00:02.000 Okay, all right.

01:00:02.000 Anybody with common sense, anybody with common sense.

01:00:05.000 Like, nobody, like, all my.

01:00:07.000 She's the street code, but like, when it comes to dirty police officers, they don't get that street. 1.00

01:00:11.000 That street code benefits.

01:00:12.000 Fuck no.

01:00:14.000 and listen, even my friends from down here from back then, like, they looked out for me when I first went to prison, bro.

01:00:21.000 Like, they, they, I could have done damage, bro.

01:00:24.000 Major here.

01:00:26.000 Like, never did, bro.

01:00:28.000 So, you kept a solid only time you cooperated was against the dirty cops.

01:00:31.000 That's it, bro.

01:00:32.000 Yeah.

01:00:32.000 That's it.

01:00:33.000 All that other shit, bro.

01:00:35.000 Yeah.

01:00:35.000 No, I was just wondering for like for him, like, because you know, you got some crooks that like other guys might say, oh, well, if you talk, if you, if you cooperate with the police at any time, even if it's against dirty cops, we don't respect that.

01:00:44.000 Yeah, but who gives a fuck with people?

01:00:46.000 That's their opinion.

01:00:47.000 Yeah.

01:00:47.000 They can't even pay.

01:00:48.000 They're sitting in their mom's basement on the internet.

01:00:51.000 Yeah, no, I agree with you.

01:00:52.000 I think dirty police officers are the worst because listen, bro, they take an oath to protect and serve for you.

01:00:58.000 You're a taxpaying citizen.

01:01:01.000 I pay a lot of taxes now.

01:01:02.000 Too much.

01:01:03.000 They take that oath to protect and serve.

01:01:07.000 There ain't nothing more slimy or dirty than a dirty cop, bro.

01:01:11.000 They put good cops in danger.

01:01:14.000 They turn society against good cops.

01:01:18.000 You know what I mean?

01:01:19.000 So when you see these cops beating people and doing shit to people, all cops don't do that, bro.

01:01:26.000 Like, I seen a homeless guy here the other day.

01:01:29.000 They were fucking with him.

01:01:30.000 I pulled over.

01:01:32.000 I had a ex-NFL player in the car and a rich-ass Indian friend of mine. 1.00

01:01:36.000 They're like, oh, God, you know, Shiraz. 0.98

01:01:39.000 And I was like, bro, why are you fucking with him?

01:01:41.000 And they were like, one of the cops was like, oh, white boy Rick.

01:01:44.000 I'm like, bro.

01:01:46.000 He's like, bro, people are complaining.

01:01:47.000 I said, bro, I live here too.

01:01:48.000 I ain't come.

01:01:49.000 He goes, Rick, I gave the dude some money.

01:01:51.000 They told me they were going to take him to Camilla's house.

01:01:54.000 They looked out, but, bro, I try and look out, bro.

01:01:57.000 Like, if I see something wrong, I don't antagonize, but I speak up now.

01:02:03.000 I ain't afraid.

01:02:04.000 Like, I have a driver's license.

01:02:05.000 I'm legit.

01:02:06.000 I'm this.

01:02:07.000 I don't give a fuck who you are.

01:02:08.000 If I think you're doing something that isn't right for society, that's it.

01:02:13.000 All right.

01:02:14.000 That's honest.

01:02:14.000 All right.

01:02:15.000 Listen to chats real quick and then come back.

01:02:19.000 And after hours after this.

01:02:20.000 So we got chats, bro.

01:02:24.000 Frankie Guy says, hey, Fresh, my boy convinced me to get into a car rental game.

01:02:29.000 All these years I thought it was really skeptical, but it never hurts to try different things, right?

01:02:34.000 Business is tough.

01:02:35.000 You know, Rick.

01:02:36.000 Spend money in order to make money.

01:02:38.000 He got me connected for a Benz truck and 20K down.

01:02:40.000 Pretend to reach out to you, brother.

01:02:42.000 He's spreading the hustle and fuck the haters.

01:02:44.000 Rick questioned.

01:02:45.000 I watched a movie totally dope, but definitely some of the narrative about your dad never was in the weapons deal business.

01:02:51.000 Question mark.

01:02:52.000 Bro, all the weapons came from another corrupt police officer in Ohio through me.

01:02:59.000 Wow.

01:03:00.000 Oh, that's the other guy that the FBI was asking you about, right?

01:03:03.000 Yeah, but he never, he retired.

01:03:05.000 He never got in any trouble or not.

01:03:07.000 He was a state trooper.

01:03:08.000 He's in my new documentary.

01:03:10.000 Okay.

01:03:10.000 Never, he retired.

01:03:13.000 He, bro, he, he, I don't know how he escaped, whatever he did, but, bro, most of like these dudes control the whole city in Chicago.

01:03:23.000 So I could go up there and pick up MAC 11s, ARs, pistols.

01:03:28.000 You don't need, in Michigan, you need a permit for a handgun.

01:03:30.000 Yeah.

01:03:31.000 In Florida, you don't.

01:03:32.000 In Ohio, you don't.

01:03:33.000 So for us, we would always run the guns from Ohio to Michigan.

01:03:37.000 Of course.

01:03:37.000 Yeah.

01:03:38.000 Okay.

01:03:38.000 Makes sense.

01:03:39.000 Straw purchasing.

01:03:41.000 Okay.

01:03:41.000 What else we got?

01:03:43.000 Dirty Harry.

01:03:44.000 I don't know if I can ask this, but I remember 50 Cent said he was working on a white boy Rick show.

01:03:49.000 Are you a part of it?

01:03:52.000 Me and 50 talked.

01:03:54.000 I did the BMF documentary for him, the blowing money fast.

01:03:58.000 But 50's good people, bro.

01:04:00.000 Like, shout out to him for where he comes from and what he's did in the entertainment industry.

01:04:06.000 You know, I like to see dudes like that, bro.

01:04:08.000 Yeah, he does.

01:04:10.000 No, the only white boy Rick project right now, I'm in total control of.

01:04:14.000 Okay, perfect.

01:04:17.000 Fresh updates?

01:04:18.000 W brother Rick, who's the craziest guy you met in prison?

01:04:21.000 Chris, this guy.

01:04:27.000 There was this dude, Albanian John.

01:04:30.000 Albanian?

01:04:30.000 Oh, Zirka.

01:04:32.000 John.

01:04:33.000 John Zirka.

01:04:35.000 And, bro, when I tell you, like, this dude would sock somebody for nothing, he would just clock you.

01:04:42.000 Sounds like Zirka. 0.96

01:04:43.000 Like, he was a good dude, but he had a temper, bro.

01:04:47.000 Like, but I never forget him, bro.

01:04:49.000 He's good people, bro.

01:04:50.000 Albanian.

01:04:51.000 But I used to be like, bro, you got to chill, bro.

01:04:52.000 And he was like, man, fuck these hoes. 1.00

01:04:55.000 I think that dude went to the hole like a hundred times that I knew him.

01:04:59.000 I don't even know how the fuck he kept getting out of the hole.

01:05:01.000 Albanian.

01:05:03.000 Got him Zerka, man. 0.52

01:05:04.000 Zerka's brother.

01:05:05.000 All right.

01:05:06.000 Shout out to him.

01:05:08.000 What the heck?

01:05:08.000 This was attached to the stupid chat.

01:05:10.000 I don't know.

01:05:10.000 Somebody put that in there.

01:05:13.000 That was fresh updates.

01:05:14.000 He attached that.

01:05:14.000 It's pretty accurate, though.

01:05:15.000 That's what I would say.

01:05:16.000 Pretty accurate.

01:05:18.000 That's the last one.

01:05:19.000 All right.

01:05:20.000 So, Rick, you've done a lot for the community, charity giving back to people as well.

01:05:24.000 But you're also in real estate.

01:05:26.000 And you're about to buy another complex pretty soon in Detroit.

01:05:29.000 Tell us about that.

01:05:30.000 Oh, we just, you know, we're trying to diversify little things, get into real estate.

01:05:34.000 I'm building the first brand new house there.

01:05:37.000 You know, I just bought some real estate down here.

01:05:39.000 So I'm just a hustler, bro.

01:05:41.000 If I see an avenue, I told you the other day I sold a purse for 21 bands.

01:05:45.000 My friends were laughing.

01:05:46.000 Bro, I hustle, you know, like I just like to hustle, bro, make money.

01:05:51.000 And every day, fresh, I try and do something positive.

01:05:55.000 I'm not a negative person.

01:05:56.000 I don't like negative energy.

01:05:58.000 I don't like negative people.

01:06:00.000 I do a lot for people.

01:06:02.000 I do a lot for dog rescues.

01:06:04.000 Like, I'm an animal lover at heart.

01:06:07.000 Like, honest to God, I think I like animals like dogs more than people, bro.

01:06:11.000 I don't blame you.

01:06:11.000 There's a lot of people like that, man.

01:06:12.000 It's not crazy.

01:06:13.000 I don't blame you, bro.

01:06:15.000 You know, I just did the pause on the green down here golf event for the dogs.

01:06:19.000 We raised some good money.

01:06:20.000 We donated money.

01:06:22.000 Getting ready to donate some money to a church down here.

01:06:24.000 We're trying to do what we do in Michigan down here a little bit more for the juveniles.

01:06:30.000 My brother Flowrider, we're going to do some things together for the kids down here.

01:06:34.000 Shout out to Flow, man.

01:06:35.000 So shout out to Flow.

01:06:36.000 Good people, bro.

01:06:37.000 Good people.

01:06:37.000 Amazing.

01:06:39.000 Him and nephew, Vari, nephew.

01:06:41.000 Shout out to them.

01:06:42.000 Okay, so Rick, we're going to close up pretty soon.

01:06:45.000 But what's coming up next?

01:06:46.000 Documentaries, Netflix, TV shows.

01:06:49.000 What's happening?

01:06:50.000 Bro, Friday, I fly out to Wisconsin.

01:06:53.000 We got the deadliest catch crew, you know, shadowing us.

01:06:56.000 They've been on the air 21 years.

01:06:58.000 So they're shadowing us for the boat racing industry.

01:07:01.000 We got Willie Falcone's brother on the race team with us now, Tavi Falcone.

01:07:05.000 So we got that.

01:07:07.000 If we win this weekend, shout out to Motlick Racing, my boy JR, Doug Wright racing, Doug Wright Powerbolts.

01:07:15.000 If we win this weekend, we lock up the championship.

01:07:17.000 You know, we set the speed record with the white boy Rick boat last year in Lake of the Ozark.

01:07:22.000 So, you know, just, bro, we keep, we keep climbing.

01:07:25.000 We keep looking for different ventures, doing different things.

01:07:28.000 And every day, bro, we just try and do something positive.

01:07:31.000 Give back, do something.

01:07:33.000 It's enough negativity in the world, bro.

01:07:35.000 So I didn't know this, but okay, you can race cars.

01:07:38.000 You can race bikes, but the rich sport is racing boats.

01:07:41.000 Like, that's next level shit.

01:07:43.000 And keep telling the audience about the history of racing boats, how it started?

01:07:47.000 Started in Miami, like with the drug smugglers.

01:07:50.000 That was why we don't have the race in Miami anymore.

01:07:54.000 And we're trying to bring it back because Willie Falcone and them, like, bro, they will run to Bimini, load up the boat in the middle of the race, and run back.

01:08:02.000 So they didn't want that here no more.

01:08:06.000 But listen, man, I'm glad some of those guys got a second chance at life.

01:08:10.000 They're doing good things.

01:08:12.000 Tavi was on the run for 26 years.

01:08:14.000 You know, his family stayed with him.

01:08:16.000 His daughter, I'm glad he's free.

01:08:17.000 He paid his debt.

01:08:19.000 Listen, bro, at the end of the day, this doesn't go for me because I'm free.

01:08:24.000 But we lock these young kids up in the ghettos every day.

01:08:28.000 And pharmaceutical companies are like drug cartels operating in America.

01:08:33.000 We have, you know, opioid and all this stuff.

01:08:37.000 And the shit that's going on with pills and opioids in our country.

01:08:42.000 Like, but they'll take a child, bro, that's trying to sell some crack. 0.72

01:08:46.000 And at the end of the day, if you do drugs, drugs is a choice.

01:08:50.000 Yeah.

01:08:50.000 You chose to do that drug.

01:08:53.000 But now if you rob, rape, or murder somebody, that's not a choice.

01:08:56.000 But I don't think anybody, your first time in trouble, should get over five years, bro.

01:09:02.000 We got people sitting in prisons doing life bids and they shouldn't be there.

01:09:07.000 And, you know, the one thing Trump did is created the largest corrections reform bill in our country.

01:09:13.000 So shout out to him.

01:09:14.000 He's helped.

01:09:15.000 Obama didn't do shit.

01:09:16.000 He didn't let Harry O, my brother, started Death Row Records.

01:09:21.000 Trump pardoned, commuted his sentence, brought him home eight years early, and then just pardoned him.

01:09:28.000 So, and Harry O's the original founder of Death Row, not Shuge Knight.

01:09:32.000 So now Snoop and Harry, and I spent New Year's with Harry, good people doing good things in the community.

01:09:37.000 Bro, these were things that we did like because of the situation that presented itself.

01:09:45.000 But if you look at Harry now, Harry O hangs out at the White House, bro.

01:09:49.000 He's bumping shoulders with the big dogs.

01:09:51.000 And he has a thing called community first.

01:09:55.000 And he really believes in that.

01:09:57.000 And he puts the community first.

01:10:00.000 People can change.

01:10:01.000 Bro, everybody, if you want to change, you can change.

01:10:05.000 If you don't want to change, you ain't going to change.

01:10:07.000 We all have the same 24 hours in a day.

01:10:10.000 We all choose to use it differently.

01:10:12.000 I choose to do something positive every day, and I choose to fucking hustle.

01:10:16.000 That's why I have what I have.

01:10:17.000 Nobody gave me shit.

01:10:19.000 And in five years, I built an empire.

01:10:21.000 W. Rick, man.

01:10:23.000 That's it.

01:10:24.000 All right.

01:10:24.000 Last question here.

01:10:25.000 Mr. Clap's Cheeks says, question for you guys.

01:10:27.000 Is it better to be loved or feared?

01:10:29.000 Let you answer this one and let him answer it.

01:10:34.000 It's a tricky question.

01:10:35.000 Honest to God, you need a little bit of both.

01:10:38.000 Because if you're feared, a coward might do something to you because he's afraid of you.

01:10:44.000 But if you're a little bit of both, you're kind of protected.

01:10:48.000 Okay.

01:10:50.000 You go with the answer?

01:10:52.000 That's the last one?

01:10:53.000 Yeah, that's the last one.

01:10:54.000 All right.

01:10:54.000 So, Rick, this is a great episode, bro.

01:10:56.000 Thank you for coming.

01:10:58.000 Where can they find you?

01:11:00.000 Rick Wershey underscore Jr. on Instagram.

01:11:03.000 And the Eighth by White Boy Rick is my brand page on Instagram.

01:11:07.000 There you go.

01:11:08.000 So support that brand.

01:11:09.000 Share Eighth Amendment. 0.98

01:11:10.000 The ban on cruel and unusual punishment.

01:11:12.000 Excessive bail, excessive fines.

01:11:15.000 Thank you.

01:11:15.000 All right.

01:11:16.000 All right.

01:11:16.000 After hours?

01:11:17.000 All right.

01:11:17.000 Yeah.

01:11:18.000 What time?

01:11:19.000 Right now it's 9.49.

01:11:20.000 What time?

01:11:21.000 Like 10.30?

01:11:22.000 11 o'clock.

01:11:23.000 10.45?

01:11:24.000 Yeah, I mean, depending on when Chris gets here.

01:11:28.000 All right, cool.

01:11:28.000 Cool.

01:11:28.000 All right, guys.

01:11:29.000 We'll back in about 45 to an hour for after hours.

01:11:32.000 I'll catch you guys back here in a bit.

01:11:33.000 Peace.

Fresh & Fit - August 04, 2025

From Drug Money To Legit Money w- White Boy Rick

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