Fresh & Fit - September 19, 2025


From Smallville to Bigville! w- Sam Jones III


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26 minutes

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On today's episode, the guys discuss Candace Owens' comments about Charlie Kirk and TMZ s new investigation into the shooting of Charlie Kirk. Also, King Sam Jones joins the guys to discuss his new show on the CW, Smallville.

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00:12:41.000 But Dom.
00:12:42.000 Listen, bro, a lot of happening in the news, and I feel like nowadays, especially, Candace always is under attack.
00:12:49.000 What's happening to Candace Owens, bro?
00:12:51.000 I don't know, man.
00:12:52.000 I I I feel like she's done a really good job with exposing everything that's going on and risking her career.
00:13:00.000 But I feel like she's low-key kind of losing the plot with time.
00:13:04.000 Her time has just been off.
00:13:05.000 she just released today about a family name with the last name still it's been really involved in the aftermath of the charlie kirk shooting they she's found pretty much this neighborhood that almost everyone around this house these these houses have the last name still and She also revealed that TMZ getting their footage and a lot of information from the Steele family.
00:13:24.000 And the people that's being interviewed by the news has the last name still.
00:13:26.000 But at the same time, her doing this at this time and claiming Charlie Kirk wasn't Catholic and all of these other different motions that she's claiming that did or didn't happen, it kind of dilutes her story.
00:13:39.000 It feels a little bit too personal.
00:13:40.000 So at the same time, I think she's dropping a lot of gems.
00:13:43.000 But her letting those emotions out, because at the same time, she could be grieving.
00:13:46.000 We all grieve differently.
00:13:48.000 I just think the optics and the narrative is really isn't on her side right now because of the timing.
00:13:53.000 When you have someone's deaf, you're releasing text messages and you're trying to put words in his mouth. 1.00
00:13:56.000 People gonna always criticize and say, why didn't you reveal that when he was here?
00:14:00.000 100%.
00:14:00.000 So it looks like it's a narrative behind it, and then it it doesn't help her that people are saying there's some paywalls that she's reading off advertisements and charging people for twelve dollars to be able to get more information.
00:14:10.000 That's not really a good look.
00:14:11.000 Um but I think for the most part, she mean she meant well.
00:14:14.000 So overall, you would say it's a money grab, you say, and just like she's making money, but I don't know if she is for money grab, but she's making sure she's making money through the process. 1.00
00:14:23.000 That's the true thing.
00:14:23.000 Like I won't just go out there and say that she's using this for monetary game, but she's getting paid in the process.
00:14:29.000 She's getting paid. 1.00
00:14:29.000 It's all on YouTube, it's not being revealed on the X. It's all the places where she gets paid per view. 1.00
00:14:34.000 Wow.
00:14:35.000 Guys, by the way, the internet is kind of weird here today.
00:14:38.000 Uh the rain has been falling nonstop.
00:14:40.000 It's hurricane season in Miami.
00:14:42.000 So uh let me know if it's lagging art in the chat.
00:14:45.000 Because it might be a little bit laggy.
00:14:47.000 Um, but in other news, uh from Smallville to Bigville, sir.
00:14:52.000 Welcome to the show.
00:14:53.000 King Sam Jones the third.
00:14:55.000 What's going on, brother?
00:14:56.000 What's poppin' my boy?
00:14:58.000 I don't know.
00:15:00.000 Um so look, uh we met a while ago, actually, in the gym.
00:15:03.000 Yeah.
00:15:03.000 Uh you're working hard, doing your thing.
00:15:05.000 I know who you are to some extent.
00:15:07.000 They may not.
00:15:08.000 Tell them who you are.
00:15:09.000 Is it can you can you see what they say in the chat?
00:15:12.000 They said, uh Craig Shiloh, let's go.
00:15:17.000 Uh they got Pete on the show.
00:15:18.000 Yeah, so they know, they know it's Mr. Uh Sam Jones III, aka, Craig Shiloh from Blue Mountain State, aka Pete Ross from Smallville, aka uh the GOAT, definitely the party goat, too.
00:15:31.000 Party go.
00:15:32.000 Yeah.
00:15:32.000 So so uh Dom, have you seen him in his shows before?
00:15:35.000 Like Blue Only States. 0.99
00:15:36.000 I never really watched Smallville, but definitely only seen it from Smallville because I mean you couldn't help but know Smallville exists, and you're black, you can definitely tell the black people. 0.98
00:15:46.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:15:46.000 So and it's one of the best I've heard Superman shows out there.
00:15:51.000 No, don't cap it.
00:15:52.000 Well, it is the best one still.
00:15:53.000 Yeah, and I'm not just glazing because he's here.
00:15:55.000 I mean, the ratings show it, the people's reactions show it.
00:15:58.000 It is the number one Superman show, and possibly it's top three in superhero shows because even with all those that came out, none of them really have the accolades of Smallville did, it dominated entire nation.
00:16:08.000 Yeah.
00:16:08.000 So you got a story to tell here, man, because obviously you've been through a lot.
00:16:11.000 Obviously, acting is never that easy.
00:16:13.000 It looks easy, but it's not easy.
00:16:15.000 Um tribulations you've been through.
00:16:17.000 So we'll start at the very beginning.
00:16:18.000 How you got to acting in the first place?
00:16:20.000 I got to acting.
00:16:21.000 Yeah, you got into it.
00:16:23.000 Growing up, I had three uh goals.
00:16:26.000 I'm either gonna be in an MBA, a magician, or actor.
00:16:30.000 Okay.
00:16:31.000 So you feel me?
00:16:32.000 I was a little bit short, so we cut off the uh MBA.
00:16:35.000 A little bit short.
00:16:36.000 A little bit and then uh magician wasn't gonna pay the bills, you feel me?
00:16:40.000 Yeah, so I was like, I'm gonna be an actor.
00:16:42.000 So um one of my friends was living in LA.
00:16:46.000 I I went to go visit him for a summer vacation, and he was on a television show at the time, and he picked me up.
00:16:52.000 We was just kids, he had a new car.
00:16:54.000 I was like, Damn, he got a car.
00:16:56.000 We went to 7-Eleven and the girls knew he was, and I was like, I'm never leaving, I'm being an actor.
00:17:01.000 How old were you at this time?
00:17:03.000 I was uh 18 at that time.
00:17:04.000 Damn.
00:17:04.000 Oh wow.
00:17:05.000 Yeah.
00:17:05.000 That's a lot of motivation.
00:17:06.000 That's a big motivation right there.
00:17:07.000 Yeah.
00:17:08.000 Yeah.
00:17:08.000 And uh he had his own place, wasn't no parents, he had his own car.
00:17:11.000 He was on TV.
00:17:12.000 I was like, nah, I'm never coming home.
00:17:14.000 So I called my family, I said, I'm gonna be an actor, I'm never, I'm not coming back.
00:17:17.000 That was it.
00:17:17.000 Pretty much that was it.
00:17:18.000 Yeah.
00:17:19.000 And what they say, they were like, go ahead and live your genes are quite school.
00:17:22.000 Well, I mean, the type of parents that I have, they always been pushing affirmations on me since I was a kid.
00:17:28.000 I was small, good things come in small packages.
00:17:30.000 My father always had me with him all the time, you know what I'm saying?
00:17:34.000 So I had a lot of confidence.
00:17:35.000 My dad said, You think you can make it out there?
00:17:37.000 I said, Yeah.
00:17:38.000 And six months later, I think it was Smallville, something like that.
00:17:41.000 Damn.
00:17:42.000 Yeah.
00:17:43.000 So the process of getting to Smallville, uh, team me through that process.
00:17:46.000 Was it just like you applied?
00:17:48.000 They gave you infra audition, and you they said yes.
00:17:50.000 How was that process?
00:17:52.000 No, well, um, I had been doing a bunch of guest stars at the time commercials, but um, that wasn't a goal.
00:17:59.000 The goal was a television show.
00:18:01.000 And um the first movie I ever did, it was called Zigzag.
00:18:05.000 I played the lead in that.
00:18:06.000 The second movie I ever did was called Snipes.
00:18:08.000 I played the lead in that.
00:18:10.000 So just, you know, I I was just tearing it up right away.
00:18:14.000 But let me say this though.
00:18:16.000 Most actors that I've seen that are successful, they memorized their lines consistently.
00:18:20.000 Like they're at home, doing lines, shower, doing lines.
00:18:24.000 When I said lines, I mean actual lines.
00:18:26.000 No, those like top lines, fellas.
00:18:29.000 So did you do that as well?
00:18:31.000 Of course.
00:18:32.000 Just uh, yeah, all the time.
00:18:35.000 Well, first of all, I was never really a good reader, and I never did good in school.
00:18:38.000 So trust me, I know.
00:18:40.000 My first audition I I have, I went to an acting coach, and uh he was like, Oh, you can't really read.
00:18:46.000 You're gonna have to memorize all this stuff.
00:18:48.000 So I had to memorize all my lines, and that ended up um that handicap ended up being like a superpower.
00:18:54.000 Because I would come to the auditions, and other cats would have their lines, and they'd be going in there with the paper reading off the lines, and the casting director would be like, Where's where's your what's your where's your size?
00:19:04.000 Where's your paper?
00:19:05.000 And I'll be like, Oh, I know it.
00:19:06.000 So already I'm coming in on a different level, yeah, just because of that.
00:19:09.000 Higher frequency, yeah, off rip.
00:19:11.000 Yeah, off right now.
00:19:12.000 Yeah, yeah, off rip.
00:19:13.000 So he mentioned before one of the only black characters in Smallville.
00:19:16.000 How was that actually going into it?
00:19:18.000 I mean, well, Pete Ross actually in the comic book was white.
00:19:22.000 So uh, yeah, and obviously your boy got a little melatonin, so I can tell, bro.
00:19:28.000 But yeah, I mean, at that time my mindset was so strong, and my agent at the time believed in me so much.
00:19:33.000 As long as I was um a male in that age group, she would send me. 0.90
00:19:39.000 So it didn't matter if it was a white character, black character, Chinese character, she knew how talented I was.
00:19:43.000 So I just went in there and treated like any other audition.
00:19:45.000 Yeah, and then I got the part.
00:19:46.000 And the crazy thing is um at that time they had been looking for that character for a while.
00:19:52.000 And I was shooting a movie, and so Mike Tolin, one of the executive producers, he ended up having that audition on a Sunday at his house.
00:20:00.000 So all the Warner Brothers executives and all the producers of the show were at his house, and then I had to come audition at his house because I was busy and I booked the show, and I think uh I don't know, I was in Canada maybe like the next week shooting the show.
00:20:14.000 It was a fast process, yeah.
00:20:15.000 Oh wow, how much do people have to like work, you know, from the starts to get to that point to get that big break, like doing commercials and stuff like that.
00:20:22.000 A lot of people don't see that side on the hustle.
00:20:24.000 Yeah, I mean it's uh it's a hard career uh for a lot of a lot of people, but um you just gotta believe in yourself, yeah.
00:20:32.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:20:33.000 And you have to have the chops, and you have to at that time I just believed in myself so much, and every movie I watch, I study.
00:20:39.000 I just studied the game so much, you know.
00:20:41.000 So it wasn't like uh um I I I honestly my my career was a privileged one.
00:20:47.000 I I don't think anyone has the same story.
00:20:50.000 So my my thing was pretty quick, you know.
00:20:52.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:20:53.000 Fellas, real quick in the chat, give me a one if you're able to see the stream seamlessly, and give me a two if it's a little bit choppy, because this is really good if you uh I don't want it to be choppy.
00:21:04.000 So let me know real quick in the chat, guys.
00:21:06.000 One if it's good, two if it's a bit choppy.
00:21:09.000 Uh one second here, guys.
00:21:12.000 Yo, Benji Button, you funny, bro.
00:21:14.000 Uh Myron, your rant on numerologist and number 33 yesterday.
00:21:18.000 So did you associate the Carly Kirk had me dying?
00:21:21.000 Hilarious.
00:21:21.000 So you're saying that number 33 was uh I see it.
00:21:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:21:25.000 Uh Myron went in.
00:21:27.000 Okay, uh one in chat if it's good, two if it's bad.
00:21:30.000 Uh guys, you let me know.
00:21:35.000 See, even the chat's kind of slow here.
00:21:40.000 One sec, guys.
00:21:43.000 Internet is out, fellas, because um, I think the rain has been causing a lot of issues here.
00:21:48.000 It's been nonstop.
00:21:49.000 Yeah.
00:21:50.000 It's hurricane season.
00:21:52.000 I know.
00:21:52.000 I know, I know, I know.
00:21:54.000 Okay, you put a one.
00:21:58.000 Two points.
00:22:02.000 Okay.
00:22:06.000 One sec, guys.
00:22:11.000 tunnel.
00:22:13.000 Thank you.
00:22:14.000 Are we good?
00:22:17.000 Sending one one.
00:22:23.000 What do you think, Bills?
00:22:23.000 Thank you.
00:22:30.000 Cool.
00:22:31.000 All right, um, one sec, guys.
00:22:34.000 All right.
00:22:40.000 Alright, give some ones here.
00:22:45.000 Okay.
00:22:46.000 Well, let me know, guys, if it if it does go off a little bit, let me know.
00:22:49.000 And let's put X's up up as well.
00:22:53.000 Alright.
00:22:54.000 Um, so let's uh continue here.
00:22:58.000 So you get the role.
00:23:01.000 Um what's it like being known as Pete walking around when you go outside?
00:23:08.000 It's like, oh my god, I love the show.
00:23:09.000 You mean now or then?
00:23:10.000 Like back then.
00:23:12.000 Well, we we shot in Vancouver.
00:23:15.000 So the first season we were relatively unlo unknown because it was airing on WB in America, but we lived in Canada.
00:23:23.000 So Canada, everything's like a year late.
00:23:25.000 So we was just filming a show and not really knowing everyone's like, oh, it's the number one show and it's this and it's that, but we didn't live there, so we never really got to feel the fame of it.
00:23:34.000 Wow.
00:23:34.000 Until pretty much after I I remember Tom, uh the actor that plays Superman Clark Kent.
00:23:40.000 He had to go do some press and he went back and when he came back, he was like, bro, the show's huge.
00:23:46.000 I was so famous.
00:23:47.000 I'm all over billboards, I'm all over buses, um, it's everywhere, everyone knows it, everyone knows us.
00:23:52.000 I'm like, for real?
00:23:53.000 He's like, yeah, like and it wasn't till uh we took a hiatus in that summer vacation.
00:23:58.000 I went back to LA and it was crazy.
00:24:01.000 I was like, damn showing.
00:24:03.000 So damn, when you they're using your so when Hollywood is using your image and your likeness, y'all not even notified all the time when you're like in the marketing production.
00:24:11.000 Nah, nah, it's not that.
00:24:12.000 It's just that um the show wasn't airing in Canada where we lived at.
00:24:16.000 Yeah, you know what I mean?
00:24:17.000 So the people outside there, they never saw the show because we was in another country, you know what I'm saying?
00:24:23.000 Well, saying the dude he was talking about the billboard, see himself on billboards song.
00:24:25.000 He was showing.
00:24:26.000 Oh, oh nah, I mean they weren't doing that type of production in Canada.
00:24:29.000 Yeah, I mean, you know.
00:24:30.000 So just come back and just like wow, yeah, when you they really move in.
00:24:33.000 They he knew about it, but it's to see it is another thing to like, you know, see a bus go by and see yourself, you know.
00:24:40.000 That's uh you never hit think of something like that ever.
00:24:42.000 Like people being in other countries, those countries not really, you know, getting that same type of content.
00:24:47.000 I never even thought about that.
00:24:48.000 Like some of the other countries a little bit behind.
00:24:50.000 I would think it'd be a little bit possibly a little bit different now because of the internet is a little bit stronger, maybe.
00:24:54.000 I think people might be lying.
00:24:56.000 I got some friends that live in Canada and they sometimes they're just not up on certain things.
00:25:00.000 Yeah.
00:25:00.000 The internet, uh yeah, they even the radio out there, like I remember being out there and you l you in a club and they just playing the old songs and they like it.
00:25:10.000 You like this shit hella old, yeah. 0.98
00:25:13.000 Yeah.
00:25:13.000 Yeah, I've never been to Canada, so this person hear about that.
00:25:16.000 Oh, yeah, it's beautiful.
00:25:17.000 Vancouver.
00:25:18.000 We did Blue Mountain State in Montreal.
00:25:20.000 So damn, so you Canada most of the time, yeah.
00:25:23.000 That's cool.
00:25:23.000 Two different Yeah.
00:25:25.000 That was the best summer of my life, I think.
00:25:27.000 Uh Blue Mountain State summer.
00:25:29.000 Is it just for the main part when it comes to setting in Hollywood, them choosing Canada?
00:25:32.000 Is it the uh visuals for the place on outside or is just more so like what makes them choose different countries opposed to just Well, they choose a location pretty much based on uh the tax benefits, yeah.
00:25:44.000 Yep.
00:25:45.000 That's interesting, man.
00:25:46.000 Yes.
00:25:47.000 It's really weird when you see like about Hollywood, like especially like when I seen like people break down Hollywood accounting, how they almost claim everything's a loss or try to prevent paying actors from what they deserve.
00:25:56.000 It's just so crazy.
00:25:57.000 Like I see a lot of people, especially like black community, they dive into the music business.
00:26:02.000 But people don't really do that in Hollywood of how much business paperwork and stuff it matters, so it's just really interesting to hear about you know that type of stuff that it's business first.
00:26:11.000 Guys, uh the stream is a bit laggy.
00:26:12.000 I'm watching it right now on Twitter and as well on Rumble.
00:26:15.000 So this is what I'm gonna do.
00:26:16.000 We're gonna do this over.
00:26:17.000 Okay.
00:26:18.000 Properly in the right studio.
00:26:20.000 Uh Mike said we could use the actual freshman for studios, which is fine.
00:26:23.000 If not today, different day.
00:26:25.000 Uh and we'll get you because I don't want you to do this and it doesn't come out good.
00:26:29.000 Yeah.
00:26:29.000 So guys, we'll do this actually.
00:26:31.000 Uh when the weather's better and it's not messed up with internet, and with a better uh video because audio is good, but video's really bad.
00:26:39.000 All right.
00:26:40.000 So guys, uh apologize about this, but we'll do this again.
00:26:42.000 All right.
00:26:43.000 When there, yeah.
00:26:45.000 Peace.