Fresh & Fit - October 07, 2024


General Flynn Interview


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 27 minutes

Words per Minute

144.93076

Word Count

12,737

Sentence Count

1,002

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

34


Summary

General Flynn talks about his life in the military and why he decided to go into the military. He talks about how he got into the service and the sacrifices it took to get to where he is now. General Flynn is a legend in the house, and we are honored to have him on the podcast. He is also a very good friend of mine, and I hope you enjoy listening to his story. Thank you General Flynn for coming on the show and for all of the hard work you did to get here. You are an inspiration to me and I am proud to call you a Legend in the House. Thank you for all the support you all have shown over the years, and thank you for being a part of the Fresh Air Family. We will see you next time! - The Fresh Air Crew Bill, Mo, Chris, and Mo Cheers, Clint, Chris and Chris "The Fresh Air Team" (Bill) Thanks for your support, Cheers! - Your Support is so Appreciated. - Cheers and Cheers to all the people who have supported this podcast and are making it a success. Cheers. Thanks to Bill and Mo for making this podcast possible. "Fresh Air Family" - Thank you to Mo and Chris for making it happen. We'll see you soon! - Thank You! - - Bill, Chris & Mo! - Thanks to Chris and Mo! Thanks, Clint & Chris! - "Your Support is So Much appreciated! - Bill & Mo" - "Thank You" - Thanks, Thank You're So Much! - Your support is So Appreciative, Thank you For Being A Friend, Thank Me, Thank Ya'll, I'll See You Next Time! (Thank You, Lord Blessings, Blessings From Me, Gotta See You, Effing Me, Bless Me, By Me, God Bless, Bless, Me, And Thank You, Bless You, Bye, Bye Bye, MRSU! - Bless, Ollie, Gave Me, Effie, Good Luck, Cheer, OLLY, PRAISE Me, PODCASTING, GOTTERRA, GRAFFEE, AND KELLY, JUICY, DOGS, AND SONGS, AND THEMSELVES, AND GOT ME, BABY'S, JOTTERY, AND CHEERING, AND PRAY, ETC.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Thank you.
00:15:29.000 And we are live.
00:15:31.000 What's up, guys?
00:15:31.000 Welcome to the Fresh Air Podcast.
00:15:33.000 We're here with General Flynn.
00:15:33.000 Clint, let's get into it, guys.
00:16:01.000 We'll see you next time.
00:16:31.000 We'll see you next time.
00:16:59.000 Sorry for that delay.
00:17:00.000 We had a little bit of technical issues.
00:17:02.000 You guys know it always happens, right?
00:17:04.000 We don't got Bill's here.
00:17:05.000 We got Chris and we got Mo.
00:17:07.000 So, obviously, as you guys know, Bill's is the best.
00:17:09.000 But, hey, Mo and Chris are able to make it work, man.
00:17:11.000 So, guys, welcome to the podcast.
00:17:13.000 We have a legend in the house.
00:17:14.000 We have General Flynn.
00:17:16.000 Thank you so much for coming on the podcast, sir.
00:17:18.000 I'm honored to have you.
00:17:19.000 Thank you for having me.
00:17:21.000 I know who you are.
00:17:22.000 I watched your documentary, which all of you need to go watch it, by the way.
00:17:25.000 It's on YouTube right now.
00:17:26.000 Go check it out, guys.
00:17:26.000 Go support.
00:17:28.000 But for those that might not be familiar with who you are, can you please introduce yourself to the people?
00:17:32.000 Wow.
00:17:33.000 So, I am one of nine children.
00:17:36.000 I come from a long line of people that have served in the military, both my grandfathers and all enlisted, with the exception of my two brothers.
00:17:48.000 But my grandfather served in World War I, both of them.
00:17:53.000 One of those grandfathers served in World War I and World War II. My father served in World War II, served in the Korean War.
00:17:59.000 I had a brother that served during the Vietnam era, myself or my other brother, Charlie, who's still serving.
00:18:08.000 And my son have all served in every single war since really the late 1970s.
00:18:16.000 I grew up in Rhode Island, state of Rhode Island, nine brothers and sisters, a great family, great mother and father, tough, tough Irish family.
00:18:25.000 I decided to join the Army because that's what my father did, and my father retired as a mass sergeant out of the Army.
00:18:32.000 I went through public schools.
00:18:35.000 I did go through a Catholic school at an early age, and I was a kid, you know, sort of a product of the boys' club system.
00:18:42.000 You know, used to do some swimming and boxing and stuff like that.
00:18:46.000 Avid surfer, right?
00:18:47.000 I've been surfing for 55 years.
00:18:47.000 Avid surfer.
00:18:49.000 Surfing, like wave surfing, yeah, on the ocean.
00:18:51.000 I still own 10 surfboards.
00:18:54.000 And so I decided to go in the Army.
00:18:56.000 I went through the University of Rhode Island.
00:18:58.000 I'm not a West Point guy.
00:19:00.000 I just, you know, figured I'd go in.
00:19:01.000 URI? URI, yep.
00:19:03.000 Love it.
00:19:03.000 Yeah, you're from up in Connecticut.
00:19:04.000 That's right.
00:19:05.000 You guys have a very good hockey team.
00:19:06.000 Yeah, great team.
00:19:07.000 Great soccer at that time, too.
00:19:09.000 So I ended up going through ROTC. Which is the Reserve Officer Training Corps program.
00:19:14.000 I wasn't sure if I was going to ever stay in long.
00:19:17.000 But my first assignment was the 82nd Airborne Division.
00:19:20.000 And the 82nd Airborne Division.
00:19:21.000 And what year was this when you got in there?
00:19:22.000 This was 1980, 1981 time frame.
00:19:26.000 And so I spent more than half my career at Fort Bragg.
00:19:32.000 Now they call it Fort Liberty, you know, all this DEI stuff.
00:19:36.000 So Fort Bragg.
00:19:38.000 And I actually served there from the time I was a second lieutenant to a brigadier general.
00:19:43.000 So I was in operational assignments, deployed a lot, deployed to Central America, deployed to the Middle East, deployed to East Africa, deployed to the Pacific in places like Korea and other places out in the Pacific, deployed to Central Asia.
00:20:00.000 I have not only about 30, almost 34 years in the Army, but I have five of those years are in combat, direct combat, primarily with airborne and special operations units.
00:20:12.000 I loved serving in the Army.
00:20:14.000 I loved serving in the military.
00:20:16.000 I spent, you know, I always tell people they don't sprinkle fairy dust on you and poof, you're a general.
00:20:21.000 You know, you work your ass off to get there.
00:20:23.000 And I can tell you, as a kid growing up, the way I grew up, You know, we were taught to treat others like you like to be treated.
00:20:30.000 My old man was a big, you know, used the golden rule.
00:20:33.000 And my mother was, both of my parents are deceased now.
00:20:36.000 My mother was, you know, she was tough.
00:20:38.000 Grew up in a tough family as well.
00:20:42.000 And she was one to, you know, make sure you hit the books.
00:20:46.000 And so we always did, you know.
00:20:47.000 And so I had a good life, blessed life.
00:20:52.000 I decided to go in the military, and as I rose through the ranks, you know, in the officer ranks from second lieutenant until I retired as the three-star lieutenant general, my last military assignment was as the senior intelligence officer for the Department of Defense.
00:21:12.000 So I was heading up an organization called the Defense Intelligence Agency.
00:21:16.000 It's one of the largest intel agencies in the world.
00:21:20.000 And I was, you know, blessed to be chosen for that.
00:21:23.000 We can talk about that.
00:21:24.000 I think we should because it's part of the film.
00:21:26.000 For sure.
00:21:27.000 I have a lot of questions about that.
00:21:27.000 Yeah, definitely.
00:21:28.000 Yeah, and I also, I had a couple of really critical jobs.
00:21:33.000 I was the assistant director of national intelligence for, the subtitle was for partner engagement where I was responsible for all intelligence relationships internationally.
00:21:43.000 And domestically.
00:21:44.000 And domestically, specifically domestically for all federal, state, and local.
00:21:50.000 So I was actually, I traveled around the country quite a bit with a lot of the joint task forces that we have in our country.
00:21:56.000 You know, your background with HSI. HSI, you know, fits into some of those task forces for different things, different reasons, you know, certainly the investigation side.
00:22:05.000 So I had a really great career.
00:22:08.000 I spent a lot of times, a lot of time You know, a third of my career worrying about the Warsaw Pact and the Soviet Union and all that.
00:22:15.000 And then the remainder, the next two big sections of my career, we were engaged in the Balkans and then the Middle East started to draw us in.
00:22:24.000 And then, of course, after 9-11, I got fully enmeshed in the war on counterterrorism and counterinsurgency.
00:22:31.000 And that's when I went into the world of special operations.
00:22:34.000 And really tried to help to perfect the intelligence craft to be able to go after the enemies, right?
00:22:42.000 I mean, you know, capturing and killing, you know, that's what happens in war.
00:22:48.000 Many of the most ruthless terrorists that we, at the time that I was serving, that we were facing around the world.
00:22:55.000 And, you know, and that was my mission.
00:22:57.000 That was my mission as the head of intelligence for...
00:23:00.000 Many, many people and many different types of organizations to go after some of these people, high-end guys.
00:23:06.000 Like, you know, you always hear a guy like Trump saying, we got al-Baghdadi, you know, we killed him like a dog.
00:23:11.000 Well, there was a lot of al-Baghdadis before him, before, you know, that guy, the head of ISIS at the time.
00:23:18.000 You know, we were going after the heads of al-Qaeda, you know, bin Laden and Zarqawi were two of the big names.
00:23:24.000 So I, you know, I KSM, these types of guys.
00:23:28.000 KSM, you know.
00:23:30.000 That's called a Sheikh Mohammed chat.
00:23:31.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:23:32.000 Answer, Islam.
00:23:33.000 I mean, all the things that happened in Libya.
00:23:36.000 I mean, we can talk about that if you want, but maybe that's another time.
00:23:39.000 So I was really good at this warrior thing and being a good soldier, disciplined.
00:23:46.000 I never worried about politics.
00:23:48.000 I just worried about our mission, worried about the people that were part of my organizations.
00:23:53.000 I led some of these organizations and I was a key member, a key staff member, because the intelligence officer is right there in everything.
00:24:02.000 I worked for presidents dating back to Jimmy Carter, so I've been around a while.
00:24:09.000 It's a lot of different administrations.
00:24:11.000 Yeah, and so definitely with the war on terror, so to speak, in these last 20 years, these last 25 years, I guess almost, where the Bush-Cheney administration, I was deeply involved there where we did a lot of briefings to them, for them, in support of them, and we can talk about that because I am not a fan at all.
00:24:32.000 And then, of course, the transition into the Obama administration where he picked me, Barack Obama, and it comes out in the movie, And people can stream it from YouTube.
00:24:41.000 Please, guys.
00:24:42.000 Go check it out, man.
00:24:43.000 Yeah, it's called Flynn.
00:24:44.000 Go support.
00:24:44.000 Yeah, it's called Flynn Deliver the Truth, whatever the cost.
00:24:47.000 And I think it's like $3.99 or something.
00:24:50.000 And it helps me.
00:24:51.000 Believe me, it helps me to get out and about and do the things that I'm doing right now to help save this country.
00:24:56.000 But Barack Obama...
00:24:58.000 Chose me for two really critical assignments.
00:25:02.000 One was as Assistant Director of National Intelligence, and the other was as the Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, which I just touched on both of those a second ago.
00:25:12.000 And I was working with I was working with some of these, you know, the likely suspects that we bring out in the movie but also that we're dealing with right now and certainly in the Trump administration early on we dealt with.
00:25:25.000 So the names like Jim Clapper, Director of National Intelligence under Obama.
00:25:30.000 John Brennan, Director of the CIA. Jim Comey, Director of the FBI. Sally Yates, who was the Deputy Attorney General for the United States for the Department of Justice, and then she became the Acting Attorney General during that transition between Obama and Trump.
00:25:48.000 And then people like Susan Rice.
00:25:50.000 Susan Rice, just like I'm sitting with you, Myron, I sat with Susan Rice many times to do a transition, you know, to do a turnover of the government from one national security adviser to another.
00:26:01.000 It's not easy to do because it's an enormous amount of information that needs to get pushed over.
00:26:05.000 And you're talking about the United States of America.
00:26:07.000 At the time, we're involved in all kinds of wars.
00:26:10.000 And I always tell people that, and for your audience, because you've got a different audience and a great audience, actually...
00:26:18.000 You know, so as a general, as a guy in the army, and I'm talking about all this military stuff, I'm actually very anti-war.
00:26:25.000 I always tell people, I always sort of precisely more define that by saying I'm anti-stupid war.
00:26:31.000 And we're involved in a lot of stupid wars right now.
00:26:34.000 I mean, if somebody, you know, comes up and punches you in the face like they did on 9-11, there should be a consequence to that.
00:26:41.000 There should be an accounting for that.
00:26:43.000 I mean, but I will say that since...
00:26:46.000 Since World War II, since the end of World War II, we have participated in a dozen wars, and we have not, and I use that word precisely, participate.
00:26:57.000 We have not won since World War II. We've had some skirmishes and some battles, like a desert shield, desert storm, where we, you know, the 100-hour war, and you look at what that got us, right?
00:27:09.000 A mess.
00:27:09.000 Vietnam, Korean War, all these different random conflicts.
00:27:12.000 I mean, all these different, you know, the Balkans, all these different places.
00:27:16.000 I always tell people, and I've written a book about this called The Field of Fight.
00:27:20.000 People can go look that up.
00:27:21.000 And I talk about war being the norm.
00:27:26.000 I'm sorry, I talk about peace being the norm.
00:27:30.000 I'm sorry.
00:27:31.000 No, no, you're fine.
00:27:32.000 So you're talking about peace being the norm versus...
00:27:34.000 I actually talk about war being the norm.
00:27:36.000 In the book, I talk about war being the norm, peace being the aberration.
00:27:39.000 I apologize for mixing that up.
00:27:41.000 But, you know, the idea is that There's this establishment military-industrial complex that exists in Washington, D.C. President Eisenhower warned us about it.
00:27:52.000 I talk about this in the film and Eisenhower warned in his last speech to the United States after eight years in the military, he sits there and warns us.
00:28:03.000 The guy that ends up taking over from him John F. Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy Jr., who everybody's gotten to know, JFK, he basically is going to take on this complex.
00:28:14.000 That was one of his things, especially the CIA, and he ends up getting killed for it.
00:28:19.000 So they assassinated him for it, and they feared him because he became president of the United States, and he knew exactly what he wanted to do.
00:28:27.000 And they knew he was going to go after them.
00:28:28.000 go after them.
00:28:29.000 A lot of people wanted them dead.
00:28:29.000 And so I talk about that in the film as well.
00:28:32.000 I take the viewers back to the 60s and all the assassinations, both Kennedys, Martin Luther King.
00:28:38.000 I show a shot of Malcolm X.
00:28:41.000 And I talk about reassessing the...
00:28:45.000 And this is all...
00:28:46.000 So we made this movie over a year ago, and it finally came out a few months ago before these assassination attempts on Trump.
00:28:55.000 And so in the movie, I address this business about assassinations because these are very real.
00:29:01.000 Our government, you know, I'll get screamed at for disinformation, but I'm sorry.
00:29:08.000 I mean, these are real things that people get involved in, and...
00:29:13.000 And so I address this in the film, and then I take people through kind of where we are now.
00:29:19.000 And I think where we are now, where we are right now, right here and now, as I sit here with you, Myron, we are in the throes of a takeover.
00:29:29.000 And the takeover, the battle that we are facing, You know, and I can get into the spiritual, intellectual, emotional, physical, all those domains, but the real battle that we are facing is kind of a cognitive warfare, I call it.
00:29:43.000 It's fifth generation warfare.
00:29:44.000 I've written a book on that as well.
00:29:46.000 You know, Citizen's Guide to 5GW, fifth generation warfare.
00:29:50.000 That's what we're involved in.
00:29:53.000 Where information resides and what you believe.
00:29:57.000 Who do you believe?
00:29:59.000 That's why I'm here.
00:30:00.000 I'm here because you have a great, honest, authentic approach to how you do your presentations in here and how you discuss and how you relate with your audience, your great audience.
00:30:11.000 You've got a beautiful audience, big audience.
00:30:13.000 And I think that And a lot of them aren't aware of a lot of this stuff.
00:30:17.000 A lot of younger guys that are trying to get laid or trying to make some more money, etc.
00:30:22.000 But I think it's very important to understand geopolitical ramifications, understanding what's going on in politics, understanding the deep state, understanding how American politics works.
00:30:36.000 And obviously we went through your career, obviously a very decorated military past.
00:30:40.000 Real quick, because you mentioned that you had been all over the place.
00:30:43.000 With South America, what were you doing over there?
00:30:45.000 This, I'm assuming, is in the 80s, probably, right?
00:30:47.000 Was it the counter-drug stuff?
00:30:47.000 Yeah.
00:30:49.000 Central America, yeah.
00:30:50.000 Specifically from Panama up to Honduras, Honduras, and El Salvador, Nicaragua.
00:31:00.000 So during that period of time, that was the Sandinistas.
00:31:05.000 The Iran-Contra, right?
00:31:06.000 Yeah, Iran-Contra.
00:31:07.000 At the time, I wasn't aware of Iran-Contra because I was a younger officer, but I was physically on the ground.
00:31:13.000 Can you tell the audience real quick what that was?
00:31:15.000 Yeah, Iran-Contra was really...
00:31:17.000 It's kind of like what we've heard, you know, sort of weapons for drugs and then moving weapons from different organizations in Central America and then how Iran played in.
00:31:31.000 So there was a big connection between...
00:31:34.000 The forces and the insurgents in Central America to defeat one communist element, and then the sort of the drugs for arms trade that was going on.
00:31:47.000 And, you know, that's where, like Ollie North, for those that even remember, you know, Ollie, I do, and I've met him, and I actually think he's a good man.
00:31:54.000 And he was brought up, you know, he was sort of sucked into it all as a member of the National Security Council working under the President Reagan administration.
00:32:02.000 So it was a it was a, you know, drugs for arms, arms for drugs.
00:32:06.000 And there was a relationship between different factions, our government, the Iranian, you know, the Iranian government at the time and others who were in the market and black market of moving arms and then bringing CIA, big part of it.
00:32:22.000 and then bringing drugs back into the United States.
00:32:25.000 Crazy stuff.
00:32:26.000 Yeah, there's some great movies that are about that, you know, that people can go watch.
00:32:32.000 So you were just a foot soldier on the ground at that point?
00:32:36.000 I was a platoon leader initially, and then I became a staff officer where we were planning operations.
00:32:36.000 I was a foot soldier.
00:32:42.000 I mean, we're planning things like, you know, coups.
00:32:45.000 We're planning to take over countries.
00:32:47.000 But my early time, I was a platoon leader in the 82nd Airborne Division, put on the ground in Honduras, in eastern Honduras, in a place called Puerto Limpira.
00:33:00.000 And the name of the exercise was Agustada, which means, I think, pine tree.
00:33:07.000 And we were way, way over on the eastern shore.
00:33:10.000 And then we tucked ourselves into the border.
00:33:12.000 And so we were doing border operations at that time.
00:33:15.000 Were you guys targeting, like, narco traffickers?
00:33:18.000 Yeah, narco.
00:33:19.000 But we were also doing collection missions.
00:33:21.000 We were doing reconnaissance and surveillance-type missions.
00:33:24.000 And also, you know, at that time we called it Electronic Warfare Signals Intelligence Collection.
00:33:30.000 So we were there actually doing intelligence operations along the border to help the CIA and our government gather evidence and gather information on the Sandinistas.
00:33:43.000 It was a fascinating time for me.
00:33:45.000 The guys that I had in my...
00:33:48.000 And my platoon, I think this is a great story, you know, my platoon sergeants, I was a platoon leader, young first lieutenant at the time.
00:33:55.000 And just for the audience, can you tell them, like, a platoon, how many guys were you in charge of?
00:33:59.000 At the time, I think I had, we had about 50 guys that I took down there.
00:34:06.000 All Spanish speakers, you know, my Spanish at that time was not bad.
00:34:10.000 Now it's, you know, poquito, right?
00:34:12.000 It's very, very little.
00:34:14.000 But I had a lot of Spanish speakers at the time.
00:34:18.000 My platoon sergeant was a great guy.
00:34:20.000 He actually worked out of Miami when he was a younger sergeant.
00:34:26.000 When the Mariel Boatlift, he was an interrogator.
00:34:28.000 So he was drafted by the agency to go work, drafted out of the Army, went and worked there.
00:34:34.000 So really tough guys from Oxnard, California.
00:34:37.000 I don't know if you get anybody from Oxnard, California, but Oxnard, California is a tough place out there in L.A. And he was a Mexican, really good guy.
00:34:45.000 Zamora was his name.
00:34:46.000 And then we had a whole bunch of other guys from, you know, from New York.
00:34:50.000 We had guys from Puerto Rico.
00:34:52.000 We had guys from here, literally from South Florida, that were part of my platoon, part of the 82nd Airborne Division.
00:34:58.000 Tough, tough guys.
00:35:00.000 I mean, just good men.
00:35:02.000 And so we ended up going down there.
00:35:06.000 We stayed there for a couple of months on the ground.
00:35:09.000 We did some really great work.
00:35:11.000 And that was my introduction into a deployment that was...
00:35:16.000 It sort of crossed between a peace-keeping type mission, although I'm not sure we were keeping any peace, and combat operations because of where we were operating on the border, literally on the border, and setting up the kinds of things that we Set up for collection.
00:35:38.000 And we also had aviation operations that were part of it.
00:35:42.000 We had a security force that was part of it.
00:35:45.000 So it was a fascinating introduction for me because from that point, you know, I was also involved in Grenada.
00:35:53.000 So people that will forget about, you know, Grenada was another thing.
00:35:56.000 Most people, maybe most of your audience, you know, weren't even born then.
00:36:00.000 But I went to, I deployed to Grenada, as Mo will understand.
00:36:03.000 I went to Grenada.
00:36:05.000 Yeah, I went to Grenada as a platoon leader, and that was where the Cubans had taken over Grenada.
00:36:05.000 Mo Moka!
00:36:12.000 The island of Grenada, the Spice Isle, it's all the way down at the tip of the Caribbean.
00:36:17.000 I mean, I'm a good swimmer.
00:36:19.000 I wouldn't say I could swim from Grenada to Venezuela, but that's the path, right?
00:36:23.000 Wow, okay, yeah.
00:36:24.000 So Cubans had occupied Grenada.
00:36:27.000 There was a decision that we were going to go down there and take them out of there, which we did.
00:36:32.000 I was part of that task force.
00:36:33.000 I was also a platoon leader for that operation.
00:36:35.000 And I took that same platoon of guys back to Grenada, and we set up a whole bunch of things until...
00:36:42.000 This was also in the 80s as well?
00:36:44.000 This was in the 80s, and we actually fought the Cubans at that point in time.
00:36:49.000 Some good friends of mine got wounded, and that was really the first exposure for me where I came off of the plane when we came in to the airfield, and that was the first time that I had actually seen our guys in body bags being backloaded.
00:37:03.000 So we're coming off.
00:37:05.000 And those were the original, you know, group that was killed.
00:37:09.000 And those guys were the Rangers that had jumped in to the airfield about 24 hours prior.
00:37:15.000 And there was about 10 of them that had died.
00:37:17.000 And they were sitting, you know, laying in body bags, you know.
00:37:20.000 And they were killed in action from the opposition.
00:37:22.000 Killed in action by the Cubans.
00:37:24.000 Because they got in, you said, 24 hours prior.
00:37:27.000 They went in before you guys to do reconnaissance.
00:37:29.000 Yep, to get in to secure the airfield so we could bring in a follow-on aircraft, and that's what their job is.
00:37:35.000 Ours was as well, but their decision was made to put the Rangers in first, and they did an amazing job.
00:37:42.000 Obviously, tragically, they lost some guys.
00:37:45.000 Was that your first instance where you saw dead soldiers?
00:37:49.000 Yeah.
00:37:49.000 Yeah, from combat.
00:37:51.000 From combat.
00:37:51.000 From combat.
00:37:52.000 I mean, I had, you know, training experiences.
00:37:53.000 It's tough.
00:37:54.000 I mean, the military, you do a lot of things that are, you know, that are in training.
00:37:57.000 I mean, you just do a lot of things.
00:37:58.000 You do live fires, you're getting on helicopters, you're jumping out of airplanes.
00:38:02.000 But that was the first time when it was like an enemy was now there to try to oppose you and kill you.
00:38:08.000 And they had successfully killed a few.
00:38:10.000 And we ended up getting them out of that island.
00:38:13.000 Would you say the military strategy, and I kind of want to bring this full circle, for the United States back in the 80s was counter-drug, counter-communism.
00:38:20.000 Let's keep this stuff at bay, collect information on these guys.
00:38:23.000 They're too close to home.
00:38:24.000 We need to figure out what they're doing, what they're planning.
00:38:26.000 Are they using drugs to fund their communist beliefs?
00:38:31.000 Was that kind of what it was?
00:38:32.000 Yes, absolutely.
00:38:33.000 So remember back in the 80s, and again, to bring this full circle to now, because a lot of things have flipped on its head.
00:38:39.000 So then it was the West...
00:38:42.000 You know, which was primarily America, our partners in Europe, Australia, some partners out in the Pacific, like the Republic of Korea, South Korea, Japan, and versus the Warsaw Pact, right, which was all of Eastern Europe from East Germany all the way, you know, to Moscow, right?
00:39:00.000 So that was the Warsaw Pact.
00:39:02.000 So that was kind of the big competition.
00:39:04.000 And what we were doing in our hemisphere We were stopping the rise of communism in our hemisphere.
00:39:12.000 So the Reagan doctrine, what they called it, the Reagan doctrine, was to prevent wherever communism raised its head, Reagan's intent was to stop it.
00:39:22.000 So whether it was in The Caribbean, whether it was in Central America or whether it was down in South America.
00:39:28.000 And a lot of times we were directly involved.
00:39:31.000 The United States was directly involved in helping to overthrow governments in South America that were communist.
00:39:37.000 And certainly in Central America because it...
00:39:39.000 And as I just mentioned, Grenada and there were other places.
00:39:43.000 The Dominican Republic is another place and that's all changed.
00:39:47.000 So communism was prevalent.
00:39:50.000 In that part of the world when Reagan came into office and his goal for his period of time was essentially to crush communism in our hemisphere and turn these countries over to where people are voting, right?
00:40:06.000 Democratic nations.
00:40:08.000 So people will know like Millet in Argentina today, right?
00:40:12.000 Argentina was one of those countries that was stronghold communist for over 100 years.
00:40:17.000 And Malay is really the first president.
00:40:19.000 I'm a big fan of his.
00:40:20.000 I think what he's doing is amazing.
00:40:23.000 So Malay is the first president in Argentina in over 100 years.
00:40:26.000 So that was one of the really tough nuts to crack was Argentina, and we never could.
00:40:30.000 And the people of Argentina finally figured it out, and they said enough is enough.
00:40:34.000 We're going to get rid of these communist thugs.
00:40:36.000 Brazil, on the other hand, has flipped around.
00:40:38.000 Remember Bolsonaro in Brazil, and now Luna took over from Bolsonaro in a contested election.
00:40:49.000 Call it what you want.
00:40:50.000 Was it fraudulent?
00:40:51.000 Who knows?
00:40:52.000 Just like our own election in 2020, which I believe was fraudulent.
00:40:56.000 But now you have a communist government in Brazil.
00:41:02.000 Yeah.
00:41:03.000 They banned Twitter there, too.
00:41:04.000 Yeah, and Bolsonaro, who's a good guy, yeah, they banned Twitter.
00:41:08.000 I mean, it's unbelievable.
00:41:09.000 I mean, Bolsonaro is a good guy, was bringing in, really bringing back in democracy and opening it up to the rest of the world, opening it up to capitalism and basically in freedom.
00:41:20.000 They're actually talking about arresting him now.
00:41:22.000 I saw that about a month ago, and I sort of lost a bubble on that.
00:41:26.000 But I've been in touch with people and senior leaders and serious leaders in South America who are still in these democratic stronghold nations.
00:41:39.000 And one of the things that they're looking forward to is if we could get our country back, because to bring this thing full circle, we are now...
00:41:48.000 We're now kind of flipped on its head where we had a country of political people that were always fighting communists.
00:41:56.000 The communist infiltration into the United States government, and this is real, you know, you don't want to believe me, fine, but trust me, what I say is what I believe, and it's because it's not only...
00:42:07.000 You know, long experience, but I have, you know, this is my life.
00:42:13.000 National Security of this country is my life.
00:42:15.000 I get up in the morning early and I read executive orders or I read planning documents, you know, and I'm not a big athlete.
00:42:15.000 This is what I've been doing.
00:42:22.000 I love, you know, sports, but I spend most of my time thinking about the direction that the United States is taking.
00:42:29.000 And now, Now, 30, 40 years later, right, we are now transitioning to essentially a socialist form of government.
00:42:38.000 We're becoming exactly what we tried to prevent back in the 80s.
00:42:42.000 Exactly.
00:42:42.000 And what happens is the people that we continue to vote for, and this is why for your audience this really...
00:42:51.000 You know, I want your audience to understand how important voting is.
00:42:54.000 I mean, God, we've had, you know, hundreds of thousands of men and, you know, young, primarily young men and women, primarily young men who have been, who have given their lives to this country over so many, you know, two and a half centuries, right?
00:43:08.000 Right.
00:43:08.000 To give us a right to vote.
00:43:10.000 And man, you know, so don't take your vote lightly.
00:43:14.000 Don't think that your vote doesn't count.
00:43:15.000 Your vote counts.
00:43:16.000 Voting matters.
00:43:17.000 You know, I say if we want to make America great again and we want to make America healthy again, we got to make America vote again.
00:43:24.000 And so you got to get out there and vote.
00:43:26.000 And so, you know, I want people to understand that we are now facing a socialist takeover And to take it back to the film, the specific date that I can point to, and I talk about it in the film, is the 5th of January of 2017, 5 January 2017, in the Oval Office, a meeting led by Barack Obama.
00:43:54.000 And they, and during that meeting, and I talk about this in detail in the film, during that meeting they talked about they had to get rid of Flynn in order to get rid of Trump.
00:44:04.000 I mean, that almost verbatim, okay?
00:44:07.000 And we've proven that out in court filings and my dismissal.
00:44:11.000 But most people think I spent a couple of years in jail, you know.
00:44:15.000 I didn't spend any time in jail.
00:44:16.000 I did plead guilty.
00:44:18.000 You learn about it in the film.
00:44:21.000 Why?
00:44:23.000 Speaking of Obama, we talked about the 80s, obviously fighting communism, which ironically enough now we are becoming what we fought against in the 80s.
00:44:32.000 90s, we get into the Middle Eastern affairs with Desert Storm, etc.
00:44:36.000 Then obviously the early 2000s.
00:44:38.000 We could go ahead and...
00:44:40.000 Yeah, and you spent, before we get into Obama, because I want to ask you this, and I really want to bring attention to this for the audience, too.
00:44:47.000 You're one of the few people that were operational at a high level in the military.
00:44:52.000 You weren't one of these guys that were going back and forth between D.C., doing the tours, etc.
00:44:56.000 You were actually out there, on the ground, running operations, being operational, in combat, real time, in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
00:45:04.000 And to that, I want to say thank you for your service.
00:45:06.000 Thank you.
00:45:07.000 Can you talk about that a little bit?
00:45:09.000 Because I want the people to know what you really did.
00:45:12.000 You're out here really doing shit.
00:45:13.000 You didn't just get appointed these positions by Obama and Trump just because.
00:45:18.000 There's meritocracy here.
00:45:19.000 Can you talk about things you did?
00:45:20.000 Yeah, that's a great word, to meritocracy, because we've lost that.
00:45:24.000 So...
00:45:26.000 You know, I appreciate this because I didn't go to Washington, D.C. until I was a two-star.
00:45:32.000 So that's, you know, for a guy like, for a lot of generals and admirals, you know, you float in and out of Washington, D.C. over a career.
00:45:40.000 You know, you go up there and you kiss the ring.
00:45:43.000 And I just never liked that.
00:45:44.000 I wasn't like that.
00:45:46.000 So I liked the 82nd Airborne Division.
00:45:49.000 I liked Special Operations Forces.
00:45:51.000 I liked 18th Airborne Corps.
00:45:53.000 I liked jumping out of planes.
00:45:55.000 I liked deploying.
00:45:56.000 I thrived on it.
00:45:58.000 And maybe I'm designed that way.
00:46:00.000 Like I said early on in this show, I'm one of nine kids.
00:46:05.000 I grew up in a family that was a tough family.
00:46:10.000 No excuses.
00:46:12.000 And you go serve your country.
00:46:15.000 That was my father's thing.
00:46:17.000 And so my thing was to go serve my country.
00:46:20.000 And I always...
00:46:21.000 Whenever I met somebody that came out of Washington, because they always come down and visit you, they loved visiting us.
00:46:28.000 They would come in and there would be all kinds of security that would have to be provided for these people coming in for like two days.
00:46:33.000 When they'd come to Iraq or Afghanistan, right?
00:46:35.000 When they'd come to visit you, anywhere, in any of these places I've been.
00:46:38.000 They'd show up, there'd be a ton of security around them.
00:46:41.000 They'd come out and they'd take a couple of photos and then they'd head back home.
00:46:45.000 I couldn't stand those types of...
00:46:48.000 People, frankly, I mean, I know that we need them, I guess, but I liked being around soldiers.
00:46:54.000 I liked being in the field.
00:46:57.000 I thrived on it, and I was good at it.
00:47:00.000 I was very good at it.
00:47:01.000 And like I said, you know, you don't get to the level that I'm at.
00:47:06.000 I mean, some guys you could say, well, if you hang around Washington, D.C. enough, you're going to get promoted up to the ladder.
00:47:12.000 I never—it was not something that I was wanting.
00:47:14.000 I actually thought when I first joined the military— That I was going to get out after my initial tour.
00:47:20.000 But because I went to the 82nd Airborne Division, I found something that I thought was missing in my life.
00:47:27.000 And the camaraderie, the people, the sergeants, the corporals, the privates that I was around, I absolutely loved them.
00:47:36.000 And they were very competitive.
00:47:38.000 I'm a very competitive person.
00:47:41.000 And no matter what we did, we did it really well.
00:47:44.000 The units that I've been in and anybody that's ever served with me, You know, and that's the thing, like all this craziness that they'll, you know, I was the most Googled name in the world for two years during the time that I was persecuted.
00:47:55.000 That's amazing.
00:47:56.000 I've been called every name in the book.
00:47:58.000 But it's really hard to find, and they never really have, you know, it's really hard to find somebody that I serve with.
00:48:05.000 Or that serve with me, that we serve together, that would sit there and go, oh, Flynn's an asshole.
00:48:10.000 He's this, he's that.
00:48:11.000 Or he's an ass kisser or something like that.
00:48:13.000 You won't find that because I wasn't.
00:48:16.000 And I'm not going to patting myself on the back, which is rare.
00:48:20.000 Well, you led a bunch of operations that led to the capture and or assassinations of high-level targets.
00:48:28.000 Can you talk about some of the ones that you did?
00:48:32.000 Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was probably three years we hunted him in Iraq.
00:48:37.000 He was worse than bin Laden, deadly, really, really incredibly.
00:48:43.000 I mean, so there was a video early on in 2000 and probably 2004 timeframe for guys in masks.
00:48:53.000 With a guy by the name of Nick Berg, sad.
00:48:57.000 And Zarqawi was the one that had him by his crop of the top of his hair.
00:49:01.000 And in the video proceeded to cut his head off.
00:49:05.000 Young kid that just got lost.
00:49:07.000 Was he a journalist or Nick Berg?
00:49:09.000 He was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
00:49:13.000 Kidnapped him and made a video.
00:49:14.000 Kidnapped him and then they made a video.
00:49:16.000 Huge in the early 2000s.
00:49:17.000 Unbelievable.
00:49:18.000 2004 time frame.
00:49:20.000 And so those four individuals...
00:49:22.000 Just to give you an example, the organization that we were part of, we had a mission to destroy al-Qaeda in Iraq.
00:49:31.000 And frankly, the other element that we had was to destroy al-Qaeda in the Afghanistan-Pakistan area of operations.
00:49:38.000 But this particular one was in Iraq.
00:49:40.000 And Zarqawi was the leader.
00:49:43.000 Head of al-Qaeda in Iraq.
00:49:44.000 Head of al-Qaeda in Iraq, flowing foreign fighters from Morocco to Egypt into Iraq.
00:49:51.000 It was an incredible period of time, 2004 to 2007.
00:49:55.000 We ended up killing Zarqawi in June of 2006.
00:49:59.000 How did you guys find him?
00:50:00.000 It took us years.
00:50:01.000 It took us years.
00:50:02.000 I mean, you were HSI. You know what an investigation entails.
00:50:06.000 And so we did, like, we did police work.
00:50:09.000 We did military intelligence work.
00:50:12.000 I mean, I had, at the time, we did interrogations of prisoners that we captured, and we would capture guys just to get information.
00:50:20.000 We would capture, we would go after their communications.
00:50:22.000 We would go after their thumb drives, their phones.
00:50:25.000 We wanted anything that we could to investigate where this guy and how he operated.
00:50:31.000 And that's a whole, that's a show in itself that actually talked about that particular operation the night we killed him because we ran 36 operations.
00:50:39.000 The night we killed him, that night we ran 36 raids, combat raids that night.
00:50:44.000 Wow.
00:50:45.000 Simultaneously in different locations, right?
00:50:47.000 To try to find him.
00:50:48.000 Well, we killed him.
00:50:49.000 And we wanted to break apart this network.
00:50:52.000 But that Nick Berg video was something that struck me and other guys in our team.
00:50:57.000 And we committed to not only making Zarqawi our number one target to go after because he was part of that video, but we wanted to get all four guys that did that.
00:51:09.000 Because this was a brutal way that they were trying to psyop us and to try to put fear into U.S. soldiers.
00:51:18.000 Very common in their Oh, yeah.
00:51:37.000 And I did, and it was, you know, disgusting, but in order to understand the culture and the mindset, so, you know, the bottom line of those four is all of them were either captured or killed.
00:51:49.000 So we made it a point to go after every single one of them to hold them to account for what they did to that young man who did not deserve that.
00:51:58.000 And to this day, it...
00:52:01.000 To this day, I get emotional thinking about it because that was really one of the first—it wasn't the first beheading that I had seen on a video.
00:52:08.000 I've seen some other really gruesome things, and we've captured people or killed people that this is what they do.
00:52:14.000 I mean, these are savages.
00:52:16.000 I mean, these are savages that do that kind of thing, you know?
00:52:19.000 So Zarqawi was a big operation.
00:52:22.000 Once we killed him— Then, you know, and I knew because we talked about it that night.
00:52:29.000 We actually had a call with the President of the United States of America at the time, was George Bush.
00:52:35.000 He actually called.
00:52:36.000 I was in the room, you know, back at our headquarters.
00:52:40.000 And when I say in our headquarters, it was a plywood set of boxes that we were operating in inside of a hangar.
00:52:46.000 So it wasn't like, you know, headquarters, right?
00:52:47.000 Yeah.
00:52:48.000 And Bush called us up to thank us.
00:52:50.000 And one of the things, you know, that I remember us telling him, Was that, yep, we feel good that this is a mission that we accomplished, but this thing is far from over.
00:53:00.000 And here we are.
00:53:02.000 Here we are today.
00:53:03.000 With, you know, the Middle East is still— 20 years later almost.
00:53:03.000 Yeah.
00:53:06.000 That's why I say peace is the aberration and war is the norm in human history.
00:53:12.000 And, man— Looking back, before we get into the—because I got some questions about the Obama administration next.
00:53:17.000 Looking back, do you think we should have went to Iraq?
00:53:20.000 No.
00:53:20.000 Yeah.
00:53:21.000 We should have not gone to Iraq.
00:53:22.000 Iraq was probably the biggest strategic failure so far, I think, in the 21st century.
00:53:32.000 Now, we're into the third decade of the 21st century.
00:53:34.000 I absolutely think, and I believe strongly, with good evidence, and I can talk to you all day about this, that it was a massive, massive failure in decision-making at the highest levels of the U.S. government policy.
00:53:46.000 And, of course, that's George Bush, the president at the time, Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense, Cheney, and there were others.
00:53:54.000 Huge, huge mistake for us to go into Iraq.
00:53:57.000 We could have easily just sanctioned the crap out of Saddam.
00:54:02.000 Hell, if they wanted to go in there and assassinate him, they could have assassinated him, but it wouldn't have gotten anybody better.
00:54:08.000 But big mistake.
00:54:10.000 We could have contained Saddam, easily contained Saddam.
00:54:15.000 I mean, hell, this audience, so you know, for eight years we supported Iraq.
00:54:22.000 And their war against Iran.
00:54:23.000 I mean, it's crazy the back and forth.
00:54:26.000 So huge, huge failure in decision making at the highest level.
00:54:31.000 Saddam was an ally at one point, and we don't like to talk about that, but he was.
00:54:33.000 No, we don't.
00:54:34.000 And I think it was just a vendetta on the part, and that's me, you know, that's what I believe.
00:54:40.000 It was a bit of a vendetta on the part of the Bush administration.
00:54:43.000 Well, I'll tell you what, I take your opinion way more seriously than everyone else, because you were there on the ground.
00:54:46.000 Yeah, and...
00:54:48.000 Unlike these other neocons that wrote the policy and all this other shit.
00:54:51.000 Yeah, and they talk about nuclear weapons and all this bullshit.
00:54:53.000 I mean, it's...
00:54:54.000 You know, our government constantly lies to us.
00:54:57.000 And so as I got further and further on in my career and more and more senior...
00:55:03.000 You know, so what your audience is hearing from me and the way I talk right now, you know, this is how I am.
00:55:11.000 So, like it or not, I mean, this is kind of how I am.
00:55:13.000 Don't worry.
00:55:13.000 No, they love you.
00:55:14.000 I see you in the chat right now.
00:55:15.000 So, I'm very blunt.
00:55:19.000 I treat people really well.
00:55:21.000 I mean, I always will treat people really well because I appreciate honesty and I appreciate...
00:55:26.000 If you sit around in a big table, I mean, I've had jobs, you know, the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, I'd have a staff meeting and my staff would be like 25 people, right?
00:55:36.000 All sitting around a big oak table, right?
00:55:39.000 I mean, it's the headquarters in Washington, D.C. And I would cherish those backbenchers when I would say, okay, we're about to make a big decision here.
00:55:47.000 Is this what we want to do to everybody?
00:55:50.000 And, of course, you just kind of know who the ass-kissers are.
00:55:54.000 But then some little young government servant in the back row would raise their hand and go, oh, sir, I think this is pretty stupid.
00:56:01.000 And I'd be like, oh, my God, I want to hug that person.
00:56:04.000 Because that's what you want.
00:56:06.000 It's the...
00:56:07.000 For any of you that grew up, and I grew up, you know, with the story of the emperor has no clothes, right?
00:56:13.000 And, you know, the emperor's riding through town on the back of a horse with no clothes on, and it finally gets to the end, and some little kid says, hey, man, you don't got any clothes on, and the emperor gets embarrassed, right, because nobody else wanted to tell the emperor they didn't have any clothes on.
00:56:26.000 And that's what happens when you get higher and higher and more senior in rank, is you have all these people around you that want to tell you what they think you want to know, instead of telling you what you need to know.
00:56:37.000 And that's the way I am.
00:56:40.000 So I want people to be like that around me, and I am that way around others.
00:56:46.000 I don't get enamored by rank or position.
00:56:50.000 I'm not enamored by presidents of the United States.
00:56:52.000 I'm not enamored by kings or princes.
00:56:57.000 Or prime ministers.
00:56:58.000 I've been in the company of many of those titles.
00:57:02.000 I have some who are friends.
00:57:05.000 So we talked about Iraq.
00:57:07.000 Do you think we needed to also go into Afghanistan, or do you think that was also a colossal failure as well?
00:57:13.000 And the way we pulled out of Afghanistan.
00:57:14.000 I could comment on that as well, once your opinion is on that.
00:57:16.000 Yeah, so I, you know, for those, so we went into Afghanistan with the right intentions, but the wrong, and this is, you know, this is a little bit of quarterbacking.
00:57:30.000 I'm Monday morning quarterbacking here a bit, you know, so people understand that.
00:57:37.000 The Monday morning quarterbacking is that, When I look back at it, because I was in Afghanistan, God, I used to say I lived in Iraq and I vacationed in Afghanistan.
00:57:51.000 I was over there for almost three and a half years straight.
00:57:55.000 So you guys got rid of Zarqawi and then Afghanistan?
00:57:58.000 I was in Afghanistan before Zarqawi even came on the scene.
00:58:02.000 I had been deployed to Afghanistan early on.
00:58:05.000 Gotcha.
00:58:06.000 So, we went into Afghanistan with the right intentions, but the wrong...
00:58:10.000 What year did you get there?
00:58:11.000 The first time I was in Afghanistan was early 2002.
00:58:15.000 Oh, wow.
00:58:16.000 Okay.
00:58:17.000 So, before even the Iraqi invasion?
00:58:19.000 Before Iraq was even...
00:58:19.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:58:20.000 You know, they were starting to think about it.
00:58:22.000 We knew that, and that was a big mistake, like I said.
00:58:25.000 So, we should have gotten out of Afghanistan when we put...
00:58:30.000 Karzai, you know, President Karzai in charge the first time in June of 2004 timeframe.
00:58:39.000 And the reason we went is because at the time there was information that Bin Laden was in Afghanistan, right?
00:58:44.000 Right, right.
00:58:44.000 That was the main reason we went there.
00:58:45.000 The main reason he was there.
00:58:46.000 Even though he was in Pakistan.
00:58:47.000 And then he absconded to, yeah, he probably, you know, there's some great, you know, books out there and, you know, speculation.
00:58:54.000 You know, the Iranians probably protected him for a little while and then he moved into Pakistan.
00:58:58.000 There's a lot, I mean...
00:59:00.000 You know, when that whole story comes out, and if you really dig in bits and pieces, it's so ugly from a U.S. intelligence community perspective, the failures, really, the failures.
00:59:13.000 And, folks, what I'm telling you is we do have good people in our country and parts of our government.
00:59:19.000 But the culture of some of these organizations at the very top is where it really gets set up, you know, gets set in, right?
00:59:26.000 I agree, yeah.
00:59:26.000 It's just terrible.
00:59:27.000 So we should have gotten out of Afghanistan really after we put Karzai in charge the first time.
00:59:36.000 And when he was in charge, we should have downsized.
00:59:38.000 And again, this is hindsight, right?
00:59:41.000 Because at the time, the first time I was there, I was a colonel, and I was asked the question, You know, buy some media.
00:59:47.000 I did a media interview there in Bagram, and it was early.
00:59:51.000 It was very early on.
00:59:52.000 It was probably like May of 2002.
00:59:57.000 And I was asked to, you know, we have some media that showed up.
01:00:01.000 They brought him in on a plane.
01:00:02.000 Can you go talk to him?
01:00:03.000 And I did.
01:00:04.000 And I was asked, well, how many enemy are we facing here?
01:00:07.000 We've been told that there's only a few enemy left in Afghanistan, that everybody's out, you know, everybody's been killed or captured or whatever.
01:00:13.000 And I said, at the time, this was like May, I said, well, yeah, and I knew the numbers that we had, you know, captured or killed at the time, and it was small numbers.
01:00:23.000 And I said, yeah, there might be, you know, we may be facing 10,000, you know, spread across the southern and eastern part of Of Afghanistan.
01:00:32.000 But I said, but there's 500,000, just like this, just like I'm pointing right now to the media.
01:00:37.000 I said, there's 500,000 of them across the border in Pakistan, and that's going to be our problem.
01:00:43.000 And I remember specifically giving a presentation to some leadership that came out of Washington, D.C., Who told us, don't start doing, don't start building things here because we're not going to be here for a long time.
01:00:55.000 And I was like looking at him and I'm looking at him.
01:00:57.000 This is 2002, early.
01:00:59.000 And we were like, are you kidding me?
01:01:02.000 That never happens like that.
01:01:03.000 And I told him that the greatest threat that we're going to face is information.
01:01:07.000 And the information operations that these people are so good at, because Afghanistan, you know, they call it the graveyard of empires, right?
01:01:16.000 The British Empire, the Soviet Empire, and now the American Empire.
01:01:21.000 So you asked me about the retreat, really.
01:01:24.000 I call it the retreat from Afghanistan.
01:01:26.000 When we left, we retreated.
01:01:28.000 We retreated under enemy fire.
01:01:30.000 We left Americans behind enemy lines.
01:01:32.000 We had people that were unnecessarily killed.
01:01:35.000 You know, the brave 13 that were at that gate that day.
01:01:38.000 And we lost, you know, wounded a couple of hundred from that explosion.
01:01:42.000 And everybody saw the C-17 taking off from Kabul International Airfield with the guy hanging off the freaking...
01:01:50.000 You saw it, right?
01:01:51.000 It's nuts.
01:01:52.000 I mean...
01:01:54.000 That should never have happened.
01:01:56.000 It should never have happened.
01:01:57.000 We are much better than that as a military.
01:02:00.000 And for our military leaders, the four stars, the two stars, the generals, the admirals that were in charge of that mess, they should resign if they're not already resigned.
01:02:13.000 I'm not going to sit here and say that they should be court-martialed, because they're following the orders of their civilian masters, and the orders were just absolutely insane.
01:02:22.000 So we could have left in a much calmer, in a much more organized manner.
01:02:30.000 People have died and are seriously wounded because of the complete debacle, frankly caused by a guy who has dementia.
01:02:40.000 I hate to say it.
01:02:41.000 I mean, I call him Uncle Joe because he's...
01:02:44.000 You know, my Uncle Joe, who I had...
01:02:46.000 You know, he'd be in bed by four.
01:02:48.000 I mean, we're lucky if Joe makes it to four.
01:02:51.000 You know?
01:02:52.000 And I want people to understand that his behavior didn't just happen like this last week.
01:03:01.000 I mean, this has been going on since he became president of the United States.
01:03:04.000 So I want people to understand that this is...
01:03:07.000 This is the presidency of the United States of America.
01:03:10.000 This is the person that's supposed to be responsible for being the leader of this country, the free world.
01:03:15.000 And his number one priority, the number one priority of the US government is to protect the safety and security of the American people.
01:03:24.000 Period.
01:03:24.000 Everything else is secondary.
01:03:27.000 Whether or not we, you know, spend billions of dollars in Ukraine or billions of dollars in the Middle East or going elsewhere around the world, the number one priority is to provide for the safety and protection of the people of the United States of America, period.
01:03:41.000 And here we are with this maddening, you know, invasion that's going on.
01:03:47.000 And I know you've got fentanyl problems.
01:03:49.000 We're here in your studio in Miami here.
01:03:51.000 And, you know, we've got fentanyl.
01:03:52.000 I mean, the border situation is just at the border.
01:03:57.000 And the illegal invasion is not just at the border.
01:03:59.000 I was just up in your home, your home state of Connecticut in Middletown.
01:04:03.000 We were doing some anti-child trafficking.
01:04:07.000 We had a seminar up there this past weekend.
01:04:09.000 Great, great seminar.
01:04:10.000 We had some great cops that showed up to help us that are involved.
01:04:13.000 What's the HSI there?
01:04:14.000 Was HSI there?
01:04:15.000 HSI was not, but we had local sheriff and a local chief police department out of Middletown, Middletown, Connecticut.
01:04:23.000 Great.
01:04:24.000 But I tell you that because the invasion of our country right now is not just down in Texas or New Mexico or California.
01:04:31.000 It's all over the country.
01:04:32.000 Fentanyl.
01:04:33.000 We have over 200,000...
01:04:36.000 Worst drug ever.
01:04:37.000 I say killed in action.
01:04:39.000 And what they're doing, because it's here too, right here in this city, what they're doing is in the past year they've added a little bit more horse tranquilizer to the ingredients, so it's really powerful.
01:04:51.000 So I call it killed in action because that's a military term for somebody who dies on the battlefield.
01:04:55.000 So the battlefield of America right now on our streets, we have over 200,000 killed in action.
01:05:00.000 And we have hundreds of thousands wounded in action, another military term, wounded in action.
01:05:05.000 So by fentanyl.
01:05:07.000 Fentanyl is a Chinese designed and made and then introduced through the drug cartels of Mexico.
01:05:15.000 And then they work with their counterparts in various criminal cartels here in the country, whether it's MS-13 or Russian cartels or Chinese cartels that are here on the streets of America, all over.
01:05:28.000 I mean, this isn't, again, this isn't just Eagle Pass, Texas.
01:05:31.000 This is, you know, or Juarez.
01:05:34.000 Eagle Pass.
01:05:34.000 You know, this is not any—this is right everywhere in this country.
01:05:39.000 Fennel is a serious problem.
01:05:40.000 I was going to ask you this.
01:05:43.000 It's October 7th, right?
01:05:44.000 And obviously this is the one-year anniversary of what went down in Israel between Hamas and everything else like that.
01:05:53.000 It's led to a regional conflict.
01:05:55.000 With Israel invading Lebanon and everything else like that, you're an expert in Middle Eastern affairs.
01:06:00.000 I've been to every one of those countries.
01:06:02.000 Yeah, you've spent a significant amount of time there.
01:06:04.000 You understand the geopolitical nature and climate over there.
01:06:07.000 What do you think is going to happen next, given the Israeli invasion, Iran sending missiles over?
01:06:15.000 What do you think is going to happen?
01:06:16.000 So, in war, in warfare, we have something called wargaming.
01:06:21.000 And so if you wargame out this question, which is a great question, and I'm not sure that it's being done to the degree that I would impose on our Department of Defense.
01:06:32.000 But you have an action, a reaction, and a counteraction.
01:06:36.000 So if I say, I'm going to do this, what are the reactions that you might do?
01:06:41.000 So you go back and forth with these scenarios.
01:06:42.000 So your reaction is going to be X. It's like a football.
01:06:46.000 It's like we're in football season right now.
01:06:47.000 So I do a down and out.
01:06:49.000 I do a sweep to the right, right or left.
01:06:51.000 So the reaction by the linebackers is to shift.
01:06:55.000 The deep backs is to shift.
01:06:57.000 That's the reaction.
01:06:58.000 And then I have a counteraction where I go and I fake to the right.
01:07:01.000 And I go deep to the left.
01:07:02.000 Good analogy.
01:07:03.000 So, I mean, that's wargaming.
01:07:06.000 That's so true, though.
01:07:06.000 That's so true.
01:07:07.000 So right now, as I wargame out what's happening in the Middle East, I gave you that sort of analogy because I want people to understand how I think and how those of us who are in this world of Of warfare, which I have a master's degree in both physically because I've experienced it, but also I have a master's degree in it.
01:07:07.000 It's so true.
01:07:30.000 So anyway, when I war game out what's going to happen in the Middle East...
01:07:36.000 Israel right now is not fighting to win.
01:07:38.000 Israel is fighting to survive.
01:07:40.000 That's a completely different chemistry.
01:07:42.000 It's a completely different mindset.
01:07:44.000 So in order to survive, because they're kind of in this bastion all by themselves, right?
01:07:49.000 They're in this cauldron all by themselves.
01:07:51.000 Iran is clearly at the...
01:07:53.000 They're sort of the leader of these various groups, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis.
01:07:58.000 Houthis just fired another missile.
01:08:00.000 Oh, today?
01:08:01.000 In the last 12 hours, they fired another giant missile.
01:08:04.000 I mean, so these are—even though they did some destruction, even though Israel targeted the Houthis.
01:08:10.000 So I think right now what we're looking at is we're looking at a much, much bigger war that is going— If it can get bigger, right?
01:08:20.000 But yes, it can.
01:08:21.000 And I think that we're looking at some type of action by Israel into Iran.
01:08:28.000 They're going to have to do that because the Iranian government is not going to stop, and they're not going to give in.
01:08:35.000 And so they're almost calling them out.
01:08:37.000 So what is the...
01:08:39.000 So if that's the action by Israel into Iran, then what is the reaction, right?
01:08:46.000 Like the football analogy, what's the reaction of the Iranians back into Israel?
01:08:50.000 Do they launch another 400 or 500 missiles, right?
01:08:54.000 And then what's Israel's counteraction?
01:08:56.000 Because I just said, and I want people to take this one away, this is about survival for Israel and the state of Israel.
01:09:04.000 That's a really good point that you mentioned, because if you look at their escalations, whether it was the Pagers exploding, invading Lebanon, the amount of strikes they've done into Beirut, into Gaza, yeah, I guess that's a good way to put it, because they've been escalating at an unprecedented level.
01:09:21.000 So you have that.
01:09:22.000 So the counteraction then could be, you know, the use of even higher-end weapon systems.
01:09:30.000 And now we're getting into the world of, you know, the word of nuclear, right?
01:09:35.000 And we already have the discussion of nuclear weapons in Eastern Europe.
01:09:35.000 Mm-hmm.
01:09:41.000 So Russia has recently changed its policy.
01:09:44.000 I don't know what that policy is.
01:09:46.000 I used to know what their policy was, but in the last two months, they've changed their policy.
01:09:52.000 The Secretary General for the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, NATO, has talked about the use of nuclear weapons.
01:09:59.000 Biden mentioned the use of nuclear weapons.
01:10:02.000 This is crazy.
01:10:03.000 It's total madness.
01:10:04.000 And it is very.
01:10:07.000 And people start to go, well, they're going to use the use of tactical nuclear weapons.
01:10:11.000 There's no such thing.
01:10:12.000 Now, the military guys, and you're going to hear political people go, well, it's tactical nukes, tactical nukes.
01:10:19.000 Tactical nukes have more devastation than the atomic bombs that we dropped on Japan during World War II to end the fight, at least in the Pacific.
01:10:35.000 So...
01:10:36.000 We're in a really very, very dangerous time and it's leading into a very important, the most historically consequential election in our nation's history because if we don't get this one right, we go down the path of socialism where we become the United Socialist States of America.
01:10:55.000 America with socialist characteristics instead of the United States of America, which is what I think all these people out here in the beautiful streets of Miami and elsewhere around this country want to continue to have all these freedoms.
01:11:06.000 You'll lose them quickly.
01:11:06.000 We will lose them.
01:11:08.000 And so the wars are, these wars can clearly be ended.
01:11:15.000 They can be ended by really strong leadership that emanates out of the White House.
01:11:20.000 And right now, sorry, but we don't have it.
01:11:22.000 We don't have it in the president.
01:11:23.000 We don't have it in the vice president.
01:11:25.000 We don't have it in the various departments.
01:11:27.000 Our Secretary of State, our Secretary of Defense, I mean, when I see them operating around the world, I'm like, oh my God, it's embarrassing.
01:11:35.000 It's embarrassing because we need...
01:11:37.000 You know, we need calm, measured, smart, and then shrewd and savvy.
01:11:46.000 I mean, it's like playing cards, you know?
01:11:47.000 I mean, I said early on in this interview that I grew up in the boys' club system, right?
01:11:53.000 And, you know, you would go there—I'd go there with, like, nothing in my pocket, and I'd walk out with $5.
01:11:58.000 And this is back in the—you know, this is back in, like, the— Late 60s and early 70s as a kid because I'd get dropped off or I'd walk there after school, you know?
01:12:06.000 So, you know, you learn to play cards, right?
01:12:09.000 You learn how to do different things.
01:12:11.000 I learned how to play chess.
01:12:13.000 I learned how to play games, play pool, right?
01:12:15.000 And I didn't like to lose.
01:12:18.000 Right now, it's not about...
01:12:20.000 Do you think we're closer to World War III than we've ever been?
01:12:22.000 We are in World War III. Okay.
01:12:24.000 We are in World War III because the components of warfare are not always these things that you see on TV, right?
01:12:33.000 Like these war movies, these war flicks, right?
01:12:35.000 It's not like, you know...
01:12:37.000 I mean, we're in World War III right now.
01:12:39.000 So we have a war going on domestically in this country, frankly, between the people of this country right now.
01:12:44.000 I mean, we talked about Phantom.
01:12:45.000 We talked about...
01:12:46.000 You know, the drug cartels talk about Chinese influence in not only the drug trade, but also the, you know, the political behavior of our country.
01:12:54.000 You know, we've talked about the physical wars that we are clearly involved in in the Middle East.
01:12:58.000 We are clearly involved in in Europe.
01:13:01.000 We have you know, we're providing them not only Hundreds of billions of dollars, both places, both those locations, but all kinds of weapons systems.
01:13:11.000 Hell, we're paying, the American taxpayer is paying for the entire war in the Middle East.
01:13:15.000 We're giving billions of dollars to Iran.
01:13:17.000 Iran has taken that money, given it to Hezbollah, given it to Hamas, given it to the Houthis.
01:13:22.000 And we're also giving money to Israel.
01:13:24.000 Because we unfroze their billions, didn't we?
01:13:26.000 Biden unfroze their money.
01:13:27.000 We unfroze them.
01:13:28.000 We gave them tons of money.
01:13:31.000 So, you know, for your audience and the American people, I mean, this is why we've got to stop this incompetence.
01:13:38.000 And frankly, this behavior in our current leadership, and I'm not just talking about who's in the White House.
01:13:45.000 I mean, this is the whole of government, right?
01:13:47.000 These are Republicans, Democrats.
01:13:51.000 These are the people that are running our country right now.
01:13:54.000 They're running it into the ground.
01:13:55.000 You know, the fact of life, folks, is that in the history of the world, there are what they call empires, right?
01:14:02.000 Go back to the Byzantine Empire, the Roman Empire, the British Empire, the Ottoman Empire.
01:14:07.000 I have a hypothetical for you after.
01:14:09.000 So the fact of life is that all empires at some point in time collapse.
01:14:13.000 And, you know, and I hope and I pray that we are not at the end of our thread here.
01:14:19.000 So, anyway, I do want to...
01:14:21.000 I know we're going to run a little bit here with time, but because I... Whatever question you got, Myron...
01:14:29.000 Yeah, I got like one or two more.
01:14:30.000 I do want to talk about the disasters in North Carolina because I want to bring some awareness to that for the folks.
01:14:36.000 Go ahead.
01:14:37.000 I'll ask you my question after.
01:14:38.000 So, just briefly, I mean...
01:14:39.000 Because I'm involved with different people and different organizations helping out the situation up in North Carolina.
01:14:39.000 Please.
01:14:45.000 This is the...
01:14:48.000 Hurricane Helene, which hit North Carolina, a hurricane, right?
01:14:52.000 Amazing.
01:14:53.000 It is probably going to turn out to be the biggest disaster that the U.S. has ever faced.
01:14:59.000 We did have a disaster in the early 1900s that killed about 10,000 down in the Texas area.
01:15:05.000 I think this could surpass it.
01:15:07.000 I don't think we have the numbers in yet.
01:15:09.000 I know that we're close to 2,000 dead so far, and it's going to go up.
01:15:14.000 So I want to keep people focused on Our government is putting stuff over in the Middle East.
01:15:20.000 You know, you got Harris, you know, praising the money that we just sent over to the Middle East and over to Europe, to Eastern Europe.
01:15:28.000 And we've got people that are literally, you know, dying.
01:15:32.000 And now we're recovering bodies that were towns that were completely washed out.
01:15:36.000 One of my grandfathers comes from Eastern Tennessee, the Newport, Tennessee area.
01:15:40.000 And that area out there has been devastated.
01:15:43.000 We are about to get hit with a major hurricane in Florida here.
01:15:47.000 It looks like a Cat 4 at least.
01:15:51.000 Some could get up to Cat 5.
01:15:53.000 I was here for Hurricane Ian.
01:15:57.000 Oh yeah, that was bad.
01:15:57.000 I want people to know that When Katrina hit, because Bush got a lot of grief for Katrina in New Orleans, right?
01:16:04.000 And I've given Bush a lot of grief just for a lot of things, particularly I mentioned Iran or Iraq.
01:16:11.000 But we deployed for Katrina, we deployed 75,000 military almost immediately.
01:16:18.000 Like within four days, we had 75,000 military on the ground.
01:16:22.000 Oh, wow.
01:16:22.000 Right now, the numbers of military on the ground in North Carolina is like around 2,000 maybe, and there's more private organizations.
01:16:33.000 I'm on a call every morning and every night with updates, and we're moving everything.
01:16:39.000 We're moving everything from hygiene products, medical supplies, generators, The mountains up there right now at nighttime, they drop down into the low 30s.
01:16:50.000 It's not raining up there right now, but every night it's freezing.
01:16:54.000 And so there's people up there with nothing.
01:16:56.000 They lost everything.
01:16:58.000 $750, but we go ahead and give billions.
01:17:01.000 I just wanted to give a shout-out.
01:17:01.000 Unbelievable.
01:17:05.000 And if people follow me at atjenflynn, My pinned account right now, I have an organization that I do work with.
01:17:11.000 It's called Citizens Defending Freedom.
01:17:13.000 And if people want to donate to that, just on my drive down here this morning, we were able to raise $200,000.
01:17:20.000 Nice.
01:17:20.000 That money matters.
01:17:21.000 And trust me that the money that goes into that account is going directly to support, whether it's to buy food or supplies, pay for gas, pay for generators, pay for sleeping bags.
01:17:33.000 That's where tech dollars should be going, there, not billions of dollars in foreign aid.
01:17:37.000 We're having to do this when we're paying billions of dollars overseas.
01:17:40.000 This is insane.
01:17:41.000 Fucking wild.
01:17:42.000 It is.
01:17:43.000 Let me ask you this, because I know we're short for time here soon.
01:17:47.000 Let's say Trump gets into office and he hires you as National Security Advisor again.
01:17:51.000 How would you end the wars in Ukraine and in Israel?
01:17:55.000 Yeah, so the first thing is you've got to know what your abilities are as a nation.
01:18:02.000 In our case, with the right leadership and the right positions, particularly financially and economically, because we can shut down a lot of things.
01:18:12.000 The United States of America is so powerful economically.
01:18:15.000 We have the right leaders in place.
01:18:16.000 And so, that's number one.
01:18:20.000 Number two is the world of information.
01:18:22.000 So, right now, we're really not getting any truth out of our government.
01:18:27.000 I hate to say it like that, but we're not getting anything.
01:18:27.000 None.
01:18:30.000 So, immediately, we have got to inform the American people exactly what is happening.
01:18:36.000 Here it is, by the way, guys.
01:18:37.000 We're going to share the Citizens Defending Freedom.
01:18:40.000 Citizens Defending Freedom.
01:18:41.000 Yeah, yeah, thanks.
01:18:42.000 Yeah, there you go.
01:18:43.000 Yep, beautiful.
01:18:44.000 So, and then the next thing is, is you got to, you know, and this is where the president of the United States- So, transparency.
01:18:50.000 Using our economic might.
01:18:50.000 Transparency.
01:18:51.000 Using the economic strength and power that we do still have when it's used properly.
01:18:57.000 And- You know, gathering the resources, so bringing the people that are on our side right now, like NATO, right?
01:19:03.000 And the partners, right?
01:19:05.000 So to sit, you know, to get them immediately and say, look, guys and gals, you know, we're not going to do this anymore.
01:19:10.000 We're not going to kowtow to NATO immediately.
01:19:14.000 As they want to continue to expand into the Russian frontier, and I'm not pro-Putin.
01:19:19.000 I mean, I've been called every name in the book, folks, but this is about stopping the killing.
01:19:24.000 So Zelensky, I look at Zelensky and I'm like, are you serious?
01:19:29.000 Putin is very shrewd, so you've got to be able to have a relationship.
01:19:32.000 We know that Biden has not spoken to Putin in over two years.
01:19:36.000 Crazy.
01:19:36.000 So that's got to be like, that kind of a phone call has to happen immediately.
01:19:40.000 The phone calls to the, I mean, from the President of the United States, Call this guy Khomeini, right?
01:19:46.000 And tell him, you don't stop firing missiles.
01:19:48.000 You don't pull these guys back.
01:19:49.000 You're not going to see any peace.
01:19:51.000 I mean, we have to...
01:19:54.000 Sort of throw some cards down on the table, that stick, if you will, right before the carrot, that says, we are willing to use this stick in such a powerful way that if you don't come to this table and you don't sit here and negotiate what we think we need to do, then here's the consequence.
01:20:15.000 Because we cannot have...
01:20:17.000 This craziness.
01:20:18.000 So there's a strength that comes with leadership.
01:20:21.000 And it comes with demonstrated courage.
01:20:23.000 It comes with demonstrated, you know, calculation.
01:20:27.000 So it's not like you're just going, like they're going to blame, you know, the media will blame, you know, corporate media in this country will blame Trump and say he's a crazy man, he's going to start World War III. Trump never got us involved in any wars at all.
01:20:39.000 None.
01:20:39.000 None.
01:20:40.000 And here we are on the brink, potentially, of nuclear war in Eastern Europe.
01:20:45.000 And I hate to say it like that, but that's how dangerous.
01:20:47.000 So, I mean, number one really is that...
01:20:50.000 So you're dragging them both to the table, Zelensky and Putin, basically.
01:20:52.000 And you know what?
01:20:53.000 And bringing people like the Chinese premier, you know, prime minister, all of these nation states.
01:21:01.000 So the Security Council of the United Nations, I'm not a big fan of the United Nations, but it is a place to gather.
01:21:08.000 For now.
01:21:10.000 So the Security Council and you bring these others together and you sit them there.
01:21:14.000 The United States of America can do that when they have somebody who actually has all their faculties.
01:21:21.000 We don't have a president right now that has all their faculties.
01:21:23.000 I was not kidding about Uncle Joe 25 minutes ago or so.
01:21:27.000 I mean...
01:21:27.000 He's in bed right now probably.
01:21:28.000 Yeah.
01:21:29.000 He probably is.
01:21:30.000 He's getting close.
01:21:31.000 Oh, it's actually...
01:21:32.000 Yeah, it's after four.
01:21:33.000 So he's in bed.
01:21:34.000 And then Harris.
01:21:36.000 I mean, you know...
01:21:38.000 God help us.
01:21:38.000 I've been on six continents in my military career, blessed to have done the things that I did.
01:21:46.000 And this is the website that you guys can donate to, by the way, on the screen.
01:21:49.000 So guys, go show some love over there.
01:21:50.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:21:51.000 If you want to help, I mean, honestly, $10, $5, $100.
01:21:57.000 And if you can't, pray.
01:21:58.000 Pray for these people because I was briefed this morning and they just found a child Wandering around in one of the small enclaves up there, half-naked, freezing, but survived.
01:22:13.000 Awful.
01:22:16.000 Sorry, you were talking about bringing these people together.
01:22:19.000 So the big question is, can we end these things?
01:22:22.000 Yes, we can.
01:22:23.000 But it takes the United States of America with the right leader to sit there.
01:22:29.000 And part of it is, this is one of the strengths of Trump.
01:22:34.000 Would you say that we need to allow Russia to keep that 20% that they've already taken at this point?
01:22:39.000 I think the people in those Donbasses, they call them provinces, states, if you will, I actually think that those people have to be given a choice to throw it on the table and vote.
01:22:51.000 Okay.
01:22:52.000 Throw it on the table and vote.
01:22:53.000 Do you want to stay with Russia or And I believe, because we've already seen one of these occurrences take place during the time that Biden's been in office, where they did that.
01:23:04.000 And they actually voted, because most of those people are Russians, when they split up of Ukraine and the Warsaw Pact.
01:23:11.000 So that, to me, would be on the table for them.
01:23:16.000 And I actually believe that if it was presented correctly and done transparently, I actually think that Putin would go, okay.
01:23:25.000 I think he would, because I don't think that he fears what those people want.
01:23:30.000 And actually...
01:23:32.000 Most of them are probably going to want to be with Russia anyway.
01:23:33.000 Yeah, because that's their native, it's not just their native tongue, it's their native culture.
01:23:39.000 So, you know, a lot of this, and we could do two more hours of nothing but the Budapest Accords in 1994, which we had, you know, we had four leaders sit at that table And one of them was Gorbachev, Bush, Mitterrand, and Thatcher, okay?
01:23:58.000 Sat Budapest Accords of 1994.
01:24:00.000 They basically, during those things, it was like an agreement that we all shook hands and said, no more...
01:24:08.000 No more, like, shift of NATO up against the Russian frontier, okay?
01:24:14.000 And we have doubled down on that.
01:24:16.000 We screwed, you know, so it's like, you gotta have a- We expanded when we promised we wouldn't, right?
01:24:22.000 So, yeah, last point on this, because people will go, freak out, well, you know, he met with Putin.
01:24:27.000 Watch the movie.
01:24:28.000 You watch the movie about what my brother Jack said, and he's right.
01:24:33.000 So what I am is I'm all about peace and trying to figure out how to get out of this mess that we're in.
01:24:42.000 What we need right now in this country is we need a really, really strong leader.
01:24:46.000 The one funny thing about Trump And I could be his worst nightmare, actually, because I could have turned on him, but I didn't, because there was nothing there.
01:24:54.000 Unlike Mike Pence, that's it.
01:24:55.000 Yeah, Mike Pence is sorry.
01:24:57.000 But one of the things about Trump, one of his leadership traits, and this is kind of, if you really understand the art of the deal, this is a guy that uses uncertainty to his advantage, okay?
01:25:10.000 So he makes action, reaction, counteraction, right?
01:25:13.000 So he makes the other side of the line uncertain about what it's going to do.
01:25:20.000 So they have to have all kinds of options, right?
01:25:23.000 Yeah.
01:25:23.000 I mean, you got to, you know, the middle linebacker, the deep safety, he's got to, like, be really good, best in the league if you're going to deal with a guy like Trump.
01:25:30.000 Because he's looking this way.
01:25:32.000 You know, he's looking right, right, right, right, right.
01:25:34.000 He looks left.
01:25:35.000 And the guy's playing that, right?
01:25:37.000 And all of a sudden he looks left and he hesitates for that one second.
01:25:40.000 And a guy turns that way and he goes back deep to the right.
01:25:44.000 And boom, you have a long bomb, touchdown.
01:25:47.000 Trump has that level of uncertainty in his character.
01:25:51.000 And the media, the socialist, communist, Marxist left, they don't like that about him because they can't figure out.
01:26:01.000 They can't predict.
01:26:02.000 They can't predict.
01:26:03.000 And that's not a bad thing in warfare.
01:26:06.000 Interesting.
01:26:07.000 I know you have to get going here.
01:26:09.000 So, guys, we'll probably have to do a part two on this because I wanted to talk about the Obama administration and stuff like that, but we ran out of time.
01:26:17.000 So, General Flynn, can you tell the people where they can find you?
01:26:20.000 And we'll definitely do a part two.
01:26:22.000 Yeah.
01:26:22.000 So, first, I so appreciate, Myron, you and the team, Chris and Mo.
01:26:29.000 I would love them to watch the movie, Flynn, Deliver the Truth, whatever the cost.
01:26:33.000 You can get it on YouTube, stream it.
01:26:34.000 I think it's $3.99, if I'm not mistaken.
01:26:36.000 Maybe $4.99, but stream it.
01:26:38.000 Get a group together.
01:26:39.000 Believe me, you'll be blown away.
01:26:40.000 People will be blown away when you watch it.
01:26:42.000 You can also go to FlynnMovie.com.
01:26:45.000 We've got specials running right now for, you know, the elections, Thanksgiving, Christmas.
01:26:49.000 If you buy one DVD... You get a second one for free.
01:26:53.000 And on that DVD, there's three extra hours of, like, uncut footage that just blow you away.
01:26:58.000 And there's also a streaming chit that comes in it.
01:27:00.000 So that's a deal.
01:27:02.000 People can also follow me at GeneralFlynn.com.
01:27:05.000 GeneralFlynn.com.
01:27:06.000 I do at least one weekly newsletter every week.
01:27:11.000 And you can get it for free.
01:27:12.000 I've got all my back.
01:27:13.000 You know, every other thing I've ever written is on there.
01:27:17.000 GeneralFlynn.com.
01:27:20.000 And I just appreciate the American people's support.
01:27:22.000 I would not be able to sit here today with you, Myron, unless the American people came to my support.
01:27:26.000 I'd been destroyed.
01:27:30.000 We got your back, man.
01:27:31.000 You're a true patron, and we're going to stand by you.
01:27:35.000 Guys, here's General Flynn.
01:27:36.000 Please go support him.
01:27:37.000 Go get the documentary.
01:27:38.000 It's on YouTube.
01:27:39.000 I got it myself.
01:27:39.000 I watched it before the podcast.
01:27:41.000 Actually, watch it, so when I bring it back the second time, you guys are going to understand what we're going to talk about when we talk about the Obamas and the people that betrayed him and the sickness of the deep state.
01:27:49.000 But guys, go check him out.
01:27:50.000 We'll catch you guys back here with Brandon Carter in a few hours.
01:27:53.000 Love you guys.
01:27:53.000 Peace.