In this episode of the Fresh Fit Podcast, we are joined by 6 lovely ladies, Erin, Erin E, Alyssa, Erika, Kelsy, Margo, Gelli, Gabbie, and Cara. We talk about dating in your 20's, how to get out of your 20 s, and how to deal with the pressures of dating in the 21st century. We also talk about the American Italian Mafia and how they built their empire, and why women deserve less than men in their 30's and 40's. We hope you enjoy this episode, and have a great rest of the week! If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, and also hit us up on Anchor.fm/FreshFit and tell us what you thought of the show and what you think of it. Thanks for listening and Good Luck Out There! Timestamps: 3:00 - What's up with you? 4:30 - Who are you dating right now? 5:20 - How old is too old for dating? 6:15 - What should you date? 7:00- How old should you be? 8:00 9:30- What do you do for a living? 10:00s - What are you do to support your ex? 11:15- What are your dating status? 12:00 After Hours? 13:00: How old do you want to start dating right here? 14:00 | What should I do? 15: Should I be dating right? 16:00 + 16: What is your age? 17:00+ 18:00? 19:00a - What do I do for my ex-boyfriend? 21:30 22:00/18:00 / 22:30 +23:30+ - What kind of dating status do you have? 25:00 Is your ex-mate do you like? 26:00 & 27:00 Do you have a boyfriend? 27: Is she a girl? 29:00 What's your relationship type? 30:00 Or are you single? 35:00 or 21:00 Can I start dating someone new? 32:00 Intro: What s your favorite type of woman? 33:00 Are you in a relationship with someone else?
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00:02:15.000Right now, I'm doing the American Italian Mafia.
00:02:18.000I just finished doing an intro to them, basically the hierarchy, the structure, how they earned money, how Prohibition rocketed them to financial glory.
00:03:05.000Yeah, so girls, DM me in the RNC Poxon on IG. If you DM me ladies on IG, make sure you have pictures, photos of yourself, because some of you girls send me DMs and no photos, and then when I ask you, send me photos, your girls are like, why should I? I'm like, what the fuck?
00:03:28.000Ladies on the panel, give us your name, your age, what you do for a living, dating status, and if you want to, of course, and we'll start right here.
00:06:01.000Um, so I have my own marketing business, so digital marketing, and then I help my mom with a English learning program.
00:06:09.000It's called Kef USA for international students, people who just want to come to Orlando to learn English and go to the Disney parks and do all that touristy things in Orlando.
00:07:58.000I wanted to go to PA school, but I'm taking some time off because, baby, that's going to be a joke.
00:08:05.000The school didn't offer one of those accelerated programs where you basically get your bachelor's and your master's degree in one to become a PA? I know there's a bunch of programs that do that.
00:08:18.000You could be a pharmacist when you get out or a PA or whatever.
00:08:22.000PAs are one of the most in-demand medical jobs right now.
00:08:25.000The only thing they offered me was we have a medical school adjacent from my school, which is Meharry Medical School, one of the only other medical schools that are HBCUs as well.
00:08:35.000So they said that I could have automatic enrollment in there and, you know, pursue PA if I want to.
00:08:41.000I decided I was like, let me just take some time off.
00:16:06.000Because, kind of like she said, I hold myself with the highest value, so why wouldn't I? I mean, like, in a sense, I expect my man to treat himself with high value.
00:19:43.000No, I'm just saying personally, if I'm working hard to get what I have at the moment and I'm happy and I'm content, and if the man that I'm with can't match that, they can walk out.
00:21:26.000Like, of anything, you can bring business, nurture, taking care of them, making sure everything runs smooth, making sure they're good, making sure mentally they're good.
00:21:39.000Just, yeah, just being there to support them and be there for them.
00:23:03.000I am from here and I grew up here and to be honest, I can say like I had to grow up well beyond my years because I'm from here and witnessing women at 20, 21, 22 and I'm 16 or whatever.
00:24:16.000So do you really think you qualify for a guy when you gave a bunch of metrics that they're not necessarily looking for by your own remission?
00:24:23.000I think I do because, like I said, I'm confident in myself and I know who I am.
00:24:53.000You said before that you think that you do deserve a high-value man, and I asked you, well, do you think he's looking for these things that you mentioned?
00:25:03.000But what I'm telling you is that men that make a certain amount of money and have a certain level of status, we're fairly similar in the way that we think and view the world, whether you may know it or not, or whether we may admit it to you or not.
00:25:14.000Guys that are higher earning typically have the same prerequisites.
00:26:42.000But wouldn't it be fair to say that if one of their components is to put their family first, in order to have the highest success of a good family, you would look for a younger, more fertile, more impressionable woman willing to follow your lead?
00:27:03.000So your definition of a high-valued man was different than what mine was.
00:27:07.000Because mine was somebody who respects their family, respects their woman...
00:27:18.000But even by your definition of respecting family, I would say a guy looking for a younger, more appreciable woman to have a family with is fairly intelligent from a male perspective.
00:27:31.000Again, this is talking from the guy's side.
00:27:33.000Yeah, I'm not a guy, so I wouldn't know.
00:27:35.000In today's day and age, we tend to focus a lot on what women want, not necessarily what men want, which is why when I ask you the question, these things that you bring to the table, do you think men actually like them?
00:27:45.000And when you actually thought about it, you said no.
00:27:47.000Yet when I asked you, why do you qualify for higher value men, you led with all these traits.
00:27:56.000They want, like I said, a young, hot girl that's fertile that can produce babies for them and healthy babies for them, of course.
00:28:04.000And then they also want a woman that can cook for them, clean for them, have dinner on the table for them when they come home because they're working all day, which I also understand.
00:28:14.000So, yeah, if you can provide all of those things, of course.
00:31:11.000Can we agree that there's a disconnect here between what men want and what women want to vote?
00:31:16.000Well, there's 100% a disconnect since we're all women and we don't know what men want.
00:31:21.000We just assume what they want from when we're dating them and when we're seeing them.
00:31:26.000But see, wouldn't it be, isn't it kind of strange that women don't really have to know what men want and they can kind of just make up in their heads what they think men want?
00:31:36.000I find it amazing that women can get into their 20s, be educated, know all these things about the world, but not necessarily know what the man that they want, a high-value guy, wants back in return, yet a high-value man must know what a woman wants to attract her in the first place.
00:31:53.000That women have a privilege of not understanding the opposite gender, but the other gender must understand the woman to attract her in the first place?
00:32:42.000If I swipe on a guy, whatever the direction is that I'm showing interest in, they have to show, hey, I'm interested in you as well.
00:32:50.000So that's where I'm saying it goes both ways.
00:32:54.000Here's the reason why it does not go both ways.
00:32:56.000That man has to put in work from the beginning to To be able to even get the opportunity to see you on the dating app and get swiped right on.
00:33:06.000Like I said, I think it just depends on the person.
00:33:24.000He has to understand you to a significant degree to make you feel comfortable enough to show up on the first day and now play on it.
00:33:29.000If they're just physically attracted to you, and if they see by your profile, and I'm speaking specifically towards dating app and Instagram.
00:34:28.000This is incredible to me right now that I even have to explain this.
00:34:31.000My argument is simply that men have to understand women to get relationships.
00:34:37.000Women don't have to understand men to get relationships.
00:34:40.000I think women have to understand men 100%.
00:34:47.000And know what to do to make you feel comfortable to come on the first date.
00:34:51.000The reality is, when he swipes right on Tinder, is he wants to say, I want to fuck the shit out of you.
00:34:56.000However, understanding women, he knows most girls will not bite on that, so he has to play a game, make you feel comfortable, get you on the date, seduce you to a degree, court you to a degree, and then work his way towards sex.
00:35:09.000Women don't have that burden of performance, which is my point.
00:35:12.000But isn't that anything, any type of situation in life if you meet a guy and their end goal is to have sex with you?
00:35:17.000But your own answer, you don't even know what men want.
00:35:22.000Because you wouldn't know that if you actually understood what men really want.
00:35:25.000Well, like I just said, if you have a conversation with that man and you understand what they want, you would know where the end goal is when you meet up with them.
00:36:44.000The things you guys mentioned, men don't typically look for in women.
00:36:47.000But women are able to say these ridiculous things because there's no burning performance on you guys.
00:36:52.000For example, what you guys just said, my ambition, my holding my own, great career, loving myself, etc.
00:36:59.000These random things, that's equivalent to if a girl asked me, what do you think women want?
00:37:03.000And I said, well, I think they would want me to get manicure every week, wear designer shoes all the time, maybe have a handbag, be dressed on fleek.
00:37:12.000Doesn't that sound kind of ridiculous?
00:37:13.000Because these aren't things that women look for in a man.
00:37:42.000It's not a deal breaker to the same degree as if I was a complete bum that had zero ambition to live in my mom's basement.
00:37:48.000But if I was, let's say, a successful guy that had my money together, I went to the gym, etc., but my nails, I bit them, you would probably make an exception because I'm doing everything else so well.
00:38:15.000You say that right now on camera, but in the heat of the moment, it don't matter.
00:38:18.000But I've been in club situations where girls came up like, oh, you know what I'm saying?
00:38:22.000I'm from sloppy shit and niggas been like, no.
00:38:24.000But that's something that's very obvious.
00:38:27.000The points is flying over your ladies' heads.
00:38:29.000I'm simply saying, you brought up a bunch of irrelevant things that men don't care about.
00:38:33.000So what I'm saying is that if I was a man and I had a bunch of things that women didn't care about, like my manicures, my ability to dress well, being a metrosexual, these are things that women are like, okay, that's cool, but it doesn't really benefit me.
00:38:45.000That's how men feel about the things that you guys mentioned.
00:38:48.000Holding my own, being confident, I'm going to give 100%.
00:38:51.000These are fairly masculine tendencies that men don't care about.
00:39:52.000Men are so simple that it's complicated for us women to understand because we're so complex as to why men have to be like, let me figure out this woman so that I could be with her.
00:40:03.000Let me figure out this woman so I can go out on a date with her.
00:40:05.000For example, I step out with my man and the only thing I know what to do is shut the fuck up until I'm fucking spoken to.
00:40:32.000Like, you know, as a female, especially as my man's woman, my duty as his woman is to shut up until I am spoken to.
00:40:40.000And even if I am spoken to by one of his teammates, you keep it short and sweet.
00:40:44.000And that's what I think she meant when she says that she holds herself with confidence and But that's not even me holding myself in confidence or high value.
00:40:52.000That's just me having a sense of just being a fucking woman.
00:41:40.000And then when I elaborated, I also mentioned, yeah, you cook, you clean, you take care of your man, you bring him, like, you have a good meal for him when he gets home from work.
00:41:49.000But she didn't elaborate until I actually asked you, do you think high-value men want this in return?
00:41:54.000And then you thought, and you said, okay, maybe not actually.
00:41:58.000But I said, hey, what's tangible about that?
00:42:02.000But before anybody mentioned it, I did mention that.
00:42:06.000I do think that's important as well, but I think to have the full package and to really, like, At least for what I'm looking for, I want a man that has the full package, so why wouldn't I return that to him in return?
00:42:15.000I'm not just going to be a dumb little girl that sits on the sidelines.
00:42:23.000I know nobody said that, and I know that that's not necessarily what men look for, but if you can also offer the feminine side to a man, and you can be a good mother, and you can be a good partner, wife, or whatever you want to call it, and loyal and cook and clean,
00:42:40.000But the traits you mentioned and led with are not feminine.
00:43:10.000And then you hit them with maybe a fact, and then they might change their answer based on that fact.
00:43:15.000So what I'm saying, right, and I kind of know this already from looking at your education and your background, whatever it may be, that you're probably a successful female making a good amount of money in your regard.
00:43:25.000So you led with your accolades, which is cool.
00:43:28.000But the fact that you led with your accolades is very telling that the other things that we mentioned, the more feminine qualities that you have, probably aren't as refined as the masculine qualities you mentioned.
00:43:50.000The higher educated a woman, the more in the professional world she is, the higher earnings she is, the likelihood of divorce in a marriage go up precipitously, around 90%.
00:44:20.000Because I know what I'm talking about.
00:44:21.000Call my ex and tell me that he didn't have dinner on the table every single goddamn night for him because I can guarantee you one thing he did.
00:45:37.000It's just it didn't work out, and that's fine.
00:45:40.000Translation, I left him in certain aspects of life that I prioritize that he no longer prioritize with the beginning of the relationship, and I don't see a future with him because my future is brighter than what he can offer.
00:47:17.000And, I mean, in a Caribbean, like, household...
00:47:21.000Like, we have to take up of what the mom used to do, if that makes sense.
00:47:27.000Like, not on like no mommy issues type shit, but just like, let me just make sure he's good because like he never really had to do what, you know, like he never, when the fuck does he ever, my nigga don't even know how to do laundry.
00:47:39.000So I'll tell you this, I think, like I keep saying, it really depends on the situation because if you're with a man that, you know, If you're with a man that, you know, the mother is used to doing everything for him from A to Z, and he expects that of you, even though you both contribute 100% to the relationship.
00:48:33.000They're each person and they're bringing their best to the table.
00:48:36.000There's no such thing as an alpha woman.
00:48:39.000An alpha woman is simply a masculine female, which the reality is men don't want to date themselves.
00:48:45.000So alpha women, a lot of times what will happen is you'll meet a guy, you'll have these qualities of being fairly masculine, competitive, making a lot of money, and then the guy will be like, okay, I'm just going to have sex with this girl and not take her seriously because she's annoying.
00:48:57.000Because men don't want to have a girlfriend that behaves like themselves.
00:49:00.000So what about a woman that has to arrange her kids on her own without a man?
00:50:00.000You think it's a good idea to divorce the guy, and I'm going to tell you from a factual standpoint why it's not, and it's actually not just my opinion.
00:50:07.000You're far better off Sticking with the guy because single-parent households, single-mother households to be exact, are one of the biggest contributors to degeneracy in the United States.
00:50:55.000Knowing that single mother households are not conducive to fruitful children in general, I think it's best to bite your tongue, stay with the man, and raise that child together because infidelity is not that big a deal to end a marriage, in my opinion.
00:52:03.000You're saying you're more mature, etc.
00:52:05.000If you know, statistically speaking, a two-parent household is going to be far more conducive to that child's success, you're telling me that you can't control your feelings except the fact that, yo, this sucks, but we're going to stay together because it's better for the kids?
00:52:22.000It's actually one of the most immature things you could do because what are you doing?
00:52:24.000You're operating off of feeling versus what's optimal for the child.
00:52:28.000What's optimal for the child is you biting your tongue, staying with the man, understanding that your marriage is duty, not your feelings and being happy.
00:52:34.000And the two-parent household is what's most important.
00:53:55.000I can find another woman that can raise my kids, but it's going to be much more difficult for you to find another man that's going to raise the kids appropriately.
00:54:03.000Which is exactly why you proved my point.
00:54:06.000Women have to be alpha because if they're in that position, they have to make sure that when they take care of their kids, their kids are taken care of without the guy in the relationship.
00:54:40.000Yeah, but just because at the end of the day, if a man and woman end a relationship, it's really on the woman to take care of the kids, not the man, as you just mentioned, that your mom was taking care of you.
00:54:50.000If you divorce a man, right, what happens?
00:55:28.000And when they got divorced, they put me in the middle of it.
00:55:30.000And I can generally say, like, that was never, like, good for me.
00:55:33.000I honestly feel like they should have stuck it out because, like, I had to deal with shit with my dad that I really didn't really have to deal with.
00:55:40.000But, like, I don't know the situation.
00:55:42.000Like, no, they're never going to be 110% honest with me, even though I'm grown as fuck and I asked for it.
00:55:48.000They're never going to be honest with me.
00:55:49.000But I genuinely feel like if it were me and my mom's shoes, I just would have stuck it out with my dad at least until I went to college.
00:56:04.000You've got to understand that opinion that you claim, it's just an opinion.
00:56:08.000But that opinion is rooted in a logical fact that it is better to stay together than to break up From a statistical standpoint of that child having a fruitful life in the future, being a contributing member of society, versus you're operating off of your feelings as a female,
00:56:23.000breaking up the relationship because you feel a certain way, versus the real thing to do is to maintain that relationship for the betterment of the children.
00:56:31.000No, I just wouldn't be dishonest with my kids.
00:56:32.000I would not tell them that my husband cheated on them.
00:56:35.000And to them, I don't want them to know that it's okay to be in a relationship where a husband cheats on you.
00:58:32.000Statistically speaking, you're never better.
00:58:34.000Of course, I wish my parents were together, but not if they can't get along and not if they're toxic and not if they can't let that pain go.
00:59:09.000Well, I mean, and not for, but I'm saying, like, you obviously want to, you want your kids to see you happy, you want to be happy, like, you're gonna hear your parents fighting all fucking day and night.
00:59:21.000Wouldn't you rather the peace of mind and quiet than just hearing the toxicity and just them seeing them both unhappy?
00:59:30.000Mostly, let's be honest, man, or at least a lot of times the fights are initiated by women, man.
00:59:41.000Some girls can't control their emotions and if they can't control it enough to like...
00:59:48.000Well, I mean, for instance, I was gonna say like...
00:59:51.000I don't think infidelity is really a reason that you should end your whole marriage and say, fuck the kids and all that stuff.
00:59:55.000Because, you know, we can fuck bitches together.
01:00:00.000But when it comes to being toxic and then like a lot of the times, you know, men do get, you know, I don't want to say the word, but things happen, fights break out.
01:00:09.000And then when it starts getting mentally toxic, you know, when you see that your kids are emotionally and mentally distressed, I feel like then you, you know, as a parent, both of you, You know, sometimes it's okay to get divorced because sometimes that's the situation.
01:00:21.000I mean, for instance, like I said, infidelity, that's things you can go to therapy for and work out and talk through, you know what I mean?
01:00:27.000But like when it comes to like the whole, you know, when you have no choice but to like, all right, say, wash your hands and be like, this is too much for me, then I feel like that's Well, the problem is that we have way too much incentivization for women to end relationships.
01:00:41.000And I think infidelity is one of the dumbest reasons to end a relationship.
01:00:55.000Because as a woman, right, this is what we don't tell women.
01:00:59.000If you have a child with another man as a female, what you've effectively done is you've cut one of your legs off as far as the dating market goes and finding another guy on a higher level that you're trying to get.
01:01:10.000You've lowered your sexual market value as a female.
01:01:12.000So more than likely, you might not be able to get the same caliber of guy or even a guy in the first place that's not going to just want to take you on, but now that kid.
01:01:19.000So you're better off just being with the guy in the first place that gave you that child.
01:01:23.000And if you had sex with a guy that's a bum that doesn't want to take care of that child, that's on you as a woman for being dumb and fucking with a guy that's a loser.
01:01:30.000But women don't want to take accountability for this a lot of the times.
01:01:33.000Have you ever seen that movie with J-Lo?
01:01:35.000When she was with that rich, really sweet guy and then he ends up being crazy and just chasing her and stalking her.
01:01:45.000And it's like that little instance when you're like, okay.
01:01:49.000Yeah, but okay, let me ask you a question.
01:01:51.000Let's say I get with a girl and she divorces me and takes all my money and I find out after the fact that she was, that was her plan all along.
01:02:09.000I just don't think it should be allowed.
01:02:11.000I'm saying divorce should only be a thing if it's getting physical, if you're emotionally, like, mentally messing up your kids, you know, then you're like, alright, time to go.
01:02:21.000Because I'm not going to mess up my kids now because you're crazy, mister.
01:02:40.000Let's pretend we're 30 years in the future, right?
01:02:43.000You've lived your life, you've been through things and whatever, and you have some experience now, and you have a son, and you want him to not get with a whore, right?
01:02:54.000You're like, okay, listen, I know you're successful, etc.
01:02:57.000What would you tell your son to look for to figure out a girl's body count?
01:04:34.000I mean, I'm just saying, I would definitely just first ask, like, the relationships, how long they was in, and figure out, like, you know, how often they see new people.
01:07:34.000It's like, women, it's just like, there are certain things that women do, and especially because I've had to cut off certain females who literally do not have groceries in their house and only go out to eat with men and survive off the dinners they go off with them as food.
01:07:46.000Like, bitch, you're a hoe, and you pop pussy just to fucking survive, and that's sad.
01:07:52.000Like, it's like, whatever you want to call it, at the end of the day, you're a prostitute.
01:07:56.000Like, just because you don't sit on the corner.
01:07:58.000So I write down goals on a lot of dinner dates?
01:10:14.000To me, I'll be honest with you, I don't really look for that.
01:10:18.000I look for how they treat me on the actual date that we're on.
01:10:23.000I don't know, I feel like I'm a good profile.
01:10:26.000No, no, no, I understand the question.
01:10:27.000What I'm saying is, I'm not exactly sure how I would tell him to approach a situation, because if I were in that situation, I wouldn't know.
01:10:35.000Okay, let me make this easier for you.
01:10:39.000You probably have, in your lifetime, known at least three to ten women that were fucking hoes.
01:10:46.000These women that are promiscuous probably had a bunch of traits that were similar amongst each other.
01:12:33.000I mean, is there anything else you could think of?
01:12:34.000I mean, besides eating a plyo all the time?
01:12:37.000Something a little bit more universal for the guys to learn here?
01:12:41.000I don't know if a girl is a hoe, for real.
01:12:44.000I mean, I would say, yeah, maybe the way she dresses.
01:12:47.000Like, if you see, like, a lot of under-titty, like, if she's, like, over here in the skit, like, you know, a little, like, You know, just showing too much, just doing the most is for the hostess with her body.
01:12:58.000She's probably a hoe because she's probably doing that for attention and she probably wants multiple men to come for her.
01:13:04.000I generally feel like bitches get BBLs as an investment to attract a certain type of guy.
01:16:35.000Look, let's use a little bit of common sense here.
01:16:40.000Do you think that a majority of women that post photos of themselves in expensive, extravagant locations all over the world paid for the trip on their own?
01:18:17.000Yes, if I go to the club, most of the time I am working.
01:18:21.000Most of the time, but not all the time.
01:18:24.000Are you aware of the fact that when we speak about things on the podcast, it's spoken in generalities, and it doesn't necessarily always apply to you.
01:18:31.000It's about generalities and probabilities.
01:18:34.000So what I'm saying is that if I line up ten girls' profiles, right, and all ten of the girls are in Saint-Tropez, Dubai, etc., all these crazy places, right?
01:18:44.000I would argue that eight to nine of them did not pay for that.
01:18:49.000One might have paid for that, but that does not change the general rule that women in general don't pay to be in extravagant locations.
01:19:22.000I think men get some satisfaction out of doing it, to be honest with you.
01:19:27.000That doesn't refute my argument, though.
01:19:29.000Like I said, if she's outside throwing it back, my argument is simply that when women are in these locations, etc., there's an extremely high likelihood that a man paid for it, so therefore that girl is fucking is my point.
01:30:09.000But I was going back to the fact that you were saying how, you know, women kind of have the power X, Y, and Z, yet men are the ones that have to ask us to get married.
01:30:19.000But I mean, even if you get married...
01:30:21.000No, no, no, but I'm talking about the end term.
01:30:38.000But once you get to 30 and beyond, you start to lose more and more leverage.
01:30:43.000And this is why I say women as they age need to bring their standards down alongside it.
01:30:47.000You could demand the highest quality guy when you're at your peak.
01:30:49.000But as you get older, and as you get educated, and as you earn more money, you need to start bringing your standards down, even though that sounds kind of productive.
01:31:01.000I forgot who said it, but I feel like you deserve it.
01:31:04.000Remember, when I asked the girls what they bring to the high value men, all of them pretty much gave masculine traits thinking that that's what the guy wants.
01:31:10.000Because to be honest, when I met my boyfriend, He didn't ask me if I finish school.
01:31:41.000Because at the end of the day, she's meeting a stranger in a sense, you know what I mean?
01:31:46.000Yes, but even strangers that I have met who have money or who are, like you say, in the top 1% or whatever, they never ask me what do I do or anything.
01:31:59.000If I'm trying to date you and you don't care about what I like to do, then you're not going to be providing for a man.
01:32:08.000Can you sit down and say that I will provide for a man?
01:32:10.000Like I said, I'm an artist and I do hair, so if you are not interested in what I do as an artist, why am I going to try to date you, though?
01:32:17.000There's a difference between an interest or your interest being relevant.
01:32:22.000So, what she's simply saying is that your profession and your ability to earn money is irrelevant to the man's attraction to you.
01:32:29.000However, if you flip it around, what he does and how much money he earns is extremely relevant for your attraction to him.
01:32:44.000Let's say me and you go on a date, and I tell you, I have an extensive Louis Vuitton collection of wallets, and I also got a bunch of sneakers, rare Jordans and Nike Dunks.
01:33:09.000That your same level of indifference for my Louis Vuitton wallets and sneakers don't mean shit to you.
01:33:15.000That's exactly how men feel about your career and earning potential.
01:33:18.000I understand, but what I'm saying is that looks go away.
01:33:21.000So if you're hot and attractive now, does it mean that at 40 or 50 years old you're going to be as hot because you're going to have wrinkles?
01:33:52.000Yeah, but I mean, if you have diseases, that's impossible to fix with Botox.
01:33:55.000Well, that comes to the personal responsibility of the woman to preserve her youth the best she can through fitness, diet, eating properly, etc.
01:34:01.000Correct, but there's things that you can't control, right?
01:34:07.000Well, that's what I'm saying, long term, right?
01:34:09.000So if you're looking at it long term and the person has all these other things that you can't fix with beauty, there's other things that have to be taken into account before you get with them.
01:34:19.000This is where women need to be able to become what I call an indispensable component in that man's life.
01:34:33.000And the things that you carry and the way that you're going to raise your kids at the end of the day because that's going to be the reflection of you.
01:34:39.000Yeah, but your money doesn't come into that equation.
01:35:14.000Also, when we get old and wrinkly and have dementia or whatever, at the end of the day, it's like, at the end of the day, my woman's going to be cooking for me.
01:35:34.000Is that, right, you're taking it to the extreme here to try to make a point, which is not, you know, what I'm saying is that women need to add value.
01:35:42.000Like, your beauty gets you in a door, your femininity keeps you there.
01:35:46.000Okay, but what I'm trying to say is I personally, my opinion, I believe it goes beyond that because I think that it's also what you bring to the table, right?
01:35:55.000Because if the only thing you look at a person is how they look and the fact they can cook for you and the fact they can do all these things that your mom does for you, but if you get some sort of illness or some sort of unexpected factor that happens into your life that you can't control, are you still going to be with that person because they have other factors,
01:36:23.000I'm specifically speaking about the fact that what the conversation you guys were having regarding the looks and regarding The cooking and regarding being a woman and providing and whatnot.
01:36:33.000I'm saying when it goes to the long term and when that other person, God forbid, gets something that is uncontrollable and it prevents them from doing these things, are you still going to be with that person?
01:38:22.000At the end of the day, none of that other shit matters.
01:38:24.000If you have two scenarios, let's say something unpredictable happens on one side, another one happens on the other side.
01:38:28.000If you were to take both scenarios where the guy's with the girl and the other one the guy's with the girl.
01:38:31.000If something happens to the man in the first scenario, there's a higher likelihood that woman will leave that man versus the other way around.
01:38:37.000Now, your mother's situation, she stuck by her dad's side.
01:38:41.000But in 2023, when women have options that they have and they are incentivized to go into divorce court and get all the benefits of being in that relationship, they will 100% seize that opportunity and leave the guy most of the time.
01:38:51.000I think it depends how you were raised.
01:38:53.000I think it depends how you were raised.
01:40:21.000Yo, I don't want to sound like an asshole, but if something is statistically insignificant, it means it's insignificant and it doesn't matter.
01:40:27.000The scenario that you're displaying doesn't exist in 2023.
01:40:31.000We don't have two-parent households to the same degree that we do, and women initiate an overwhelming amount of the divorce.
01:40:37.000So what I'm simply saying is, women are far more likely to leave in a relationship than a man is.
01:41:56.000Making an argument for an exception to the rule while not considering other factors is ridiculous.
01:42:02.000Like, for example, if I was to say I'm a multimillionaire, world hunger doesn't exist, I would sound stupid because the majority of most people don't have money and or food, the ability to purchase food.
01:42:11.000So I'm not going to attribute my personal situation to how the world works.
01:44:40.000Yeah, but unicorns, you have no proof of me.
01:44:42.000This is the difference between men and women.
01:44:45.000Like, men understand that if their experience doesn't necessarily reflect reality, they're willing to admit, my experience isn't valid in the grand scheme of things.
01:44:55.000Women on the other hand, I want my experience to be valid.
01:44:58.000I want my experience to be valid because I'm special.
01:45:03.000That's the difference between men and women.
01:45:04.000It's crazy to me how we just witnessed a masterclass and regardless of how educated a woman is, her feelings are always going to override what she says, even in the face of irrefutable fact.
01:45:31.000Alright, so we'll kill the Twitch stream, Facebook, Twitter, etc.
01:45:35.000And I think that last exchange literally proves the difference between how men think and Logic, ration, numbers, facts, women, feelings, valid!
01:46:32.000You're saying that guys are more logical, statistic thinkers.
01:46:35.000I'm saying you can Google a statistic and still think that your fact is right, but it's not because you just get statistics out of anywhere.
01:46:45.000You can Google something and it could say that it's a fact, but it's not a fact.
01:46:49.000But it is kind of true that women tend to say things and voice things based off of their feelings and emotions versus men who are like, like I said, they're more simple than they are women and women make the shit more complex.
01:49:15.000I mean, I can understand why she's upset about it, but I mean, like, it's kind of like, I mean, yes, it was kind of like, damn, but like, damn.
01:50:54.000I used to cut myself about two years ago.
01:50:57.000And that's genuinely because I wasn't mentally okay and I did not have the emotional control to deal with what the fuck I was going through.
01:51:04.000So what he's saying is that he's proving a point that women deal with their emotions and they make decisions based off their emotions and not being logical.
01:51:37.000But my whole thing is that, like, He was just trying to prove a point in things that she wasn't listening.
01:51:43.000So it's like, the point he had to go that far to be like, okay, women make decisions off their emotions versus men being logical thinkers.
01:51:53.000And the fact that he had to go that far because she wasn't listening, that's just what the fuck it was.
01:51:56.000She kind of proved this point by walking out and being emotional in the first place.
01:51:58.000It literally proves our point that she couldn't even control her emotions that you guys were sitting here arguing that women are more controlling.
01:52:04.000I would argue it's the other way around.
01:55:13.000Yeah, I think in general, there's a lack of personal responsibility.
01:55:17.000I think if your life sucks, you need to take some accountability for your life sucking.
01:55:20.000And I would argue that women have easier lives than men do, especially in 2023.
01:55:23.000So, I mean, if we want to go into this realm of, you know, self-deletion or whatever, men are far more, you know, likely to commit, you know, self-deletion than women are because men's lives are harder than women.
01:57:56.000And if anything, honestly, if we're going to talk about self-deletion, men are far more likely to be successful self-deletion because men live harder lives.
01:58:13.000I have a bunch of numbers and facts to prove that women...
01:58:15.000Because women are able to enjoy all the benefits and privileges of equality while simultaneously being able to be treated like ladies, which is inherently better treatment.
01:58:25.000Women have opportunities that men will never get, but they still have all the same responsibilities, not even the same responsibilities, the same authorities that men do.
01:58:33.000Y'all don't have to go into elective service and serve in the military, yet you guys can vote.
01:58:38.000It depends where you were raised, because if I were raised in Israel, which I was, you're actually forced to...
01:58:44.000But I'm talking about the United States.
01:58:45.000Okay, but I'm just saying it depends, because if you're talking about statistics and you're talking about numbers, Yes.
01:58:50.000So that means you're talking about all over the world, not just the U.S. And you're actually forced to go into the military in Israel.
01:58:55.000Israel is a unique situation because Israel...
01:58:57.000It's not just Israel, but I'm speaking on behalf of Israel because it's what I know I have the knowledge on.
01:59:02.000Once again, bringing it back to your personal experience, I'm talking about in the United States, a first world Western country where feminism is extremely strong, women have all the privileges and rights of men while simultaneously still being able to enjoy female privileges that men never get.
01:59:16.000Yes, but if you look at the majority of the people in the U.S., a lot of them are immigrants, and not a lot of them are actually born and raised in the U.S. What does that have to do with anything?
01:59:26.000Oh, it has to do a lot with things, because if you're living in the U.S. for a certain amount of time, then you have privileges versus others if they just come here for the first time and don't have those privileges.
01:59:36.000But that's if you're actually getting into the nitty-gritty of things.
01:59:39.000I mean, okay, you just totally moved the goalpost.
01:59:43.000That doesn't change the fact that women have life on easy mode, is my argument.
01:59:48.000Because you guys don't have the same responsibilities that men do while men have the same authorities.
01:59:52.000Men have so many more responsibilities.
01:59:53.000You have all the same authorities that I do as a man, but I have more responsibilities than you.
01:59:58.000Yeah, but we have things that control us and...
02:00:23.000It's harder though than men because men have a little bit of an easier control of their emotions than women do because they don't have all these things called hormones that women do whenever they give birth or they have a c-section or postpartum.
02:01:04.000So I'll take that little bit more difficulty and control my emotions when I can go ahead and get certain opportunities that men will never get just because I'm a female.
02:02:16.000But my point I'm trying to make here is that name a right or a privilege that men enjoy that women don't in the United States outside of the ability to have sex with the opposite partner without repercussions.
02:03:27.000Women earn less because they deserve less, okay?
02:03:29.000This wage gap thing that I think you're referring to here, that women earn less than men, that's for all working men versus all working women.
02:03:35.000The reason why women earn less on average is because women work less hours, they work less dangerous jobs, they don't work career fields that are higher earning, and women are less likely to take as many risks as men are to earn income, okay?
02:03:46.000I don't think that's the case in 2023 though.
02:03:53.000I actually have a lot of friends that work in construction.
02:03:55.000Once again, your own personal friends that you know that work in construction doesn't represent the majority.
02:04:03.00090 plus percent of construction workers are men.
02:04:06.000All jobs that run the infrastructure of modern day society are typically run by men over 90%.
02:04:11.000So what I'm saying is that the top 10 paying jobs Are dominated by men versus the top least paying jobs are dominated by women because women don't have the same interests as men.
02:04:21.000Women get paid less because of choice, not because of their gender.
02:04:24.000Women can go into the same career fields that men do.
02:05:13.000All I'm simply saying is that women earn less because they deserve less.
02:05:16.000It's not because of their gender, it's because of their personal choices when it comes to education, work experience, job field, etc.
02:05:23.000Women typically don't want to go into hard, laborious jobs that are dangerous, that pay more, and women don't work as many hours and are more likely to take breaks.
02:05:30.000Of course, because they're the ones that reproduce, not men.
02:05:32.000That's fine, but that's a component as to why they earn less.
02:05:35.000Right, but that's what they have to do in order to reproduce.
02:05:54.000Sort of labor that can potentially put your unborn child in danger.
02:05:59.000Remember, my argument wasn't that women earn less because of gender.
02:06:03.000My argument is that women earn less because of choice, which you just said.
02:06:07.000And I'm not disagreeing with that, but I'm saying, is there another choice if we're trying to reproduce and trying to make sure that they stay safe?
02:06:17.000That doesn't change or refute my argument that women make less because of choice.
02:07:34.000Men are more likely to take risks and do jobs that they don't like to earn money because men understand that we have a proclivity to earn for our families.
02:07:42.000Women don't have that same burden of performance.
02:08:55.000Blackest Panda says, question for ladies.
02:08:57.000If it's okay for your dad to tell you not to dress a certain way or go to certain places, why is it considered controlling if your boyfriend tells you that same thing?
02:09:07.000Um, I think that it's controlling, not always, like, if you're going around their family, I would get it if their family's, like, okay, more picky about how you dress and stuff, but I think, like, that,
02:09:25.000I don't know, usually when a guy's controlling as your boyfriend, it's just, like, he's jealous, he doesn't, like, But you don't think if your dad is giving you that advice because he cares about you, right?
02:09:39.000Would your boyfriend care about you as well?
02:09:46.000I just think that if, like, you literally won't let her go outside and you think that stuff that's not even revealing all the way is revealing and you just think she looks hot and she can't go out because she looks hot, I think that's,
02:10:05.000So, your boyfriend's care and need help to want you to look better outside in terms of, for example, not being seen as a slut is a bad thing.
02:10:14.000No, I didn't say it was a bad thing or a good thing.
02:10:17.000I just said that sometimes it's controlling and annoying.
02:12:15.000What do you think I was looking at my notes?
02:12:17.000I've been out with my man in a see-through top before, and he just told me he was just like, I don't like it, but you're with me, so it's cool.
02:12:26.000But it's like, when I'm out here by myself, I'm like, I'm not going to wear anything to where I look like a Yeah.
02:12:36.000I'm not gonna walk out where looking, where I'm, where my goods are, you know, the things that my men, my man, you know, he looks at and men look at and I'm not gonna go out like that.
02:14:00.000Yeah, like, usually when men are with you, they're just like, okay, like, eh, I wouldn't approve this if you were alone, but because I'm with you is alright.
02:15:58.000Captain Times, ladies, which is worse?
02:16:00.000You're in a relationship, you're going out to a bar, guys hitting on you and buying you drinks, or your man going to a gentleman's club getting hit on by dancers?
02:16:38.000If the girl's in a relationship and then she accepts the drinks and she's hanging out with the guys, I guess you could say that that's worse.
02:18:04.000Okay, so I'm trying to understand what you're saying here.
02:18:05.000So, in the grand scheme of things, you're saying the girl being at the club is worse, but you think, in your personal opinion, the guy being at the strip club is worse.
02:18:13.000I mean, yeah, like, why is he at a strip club?
02:19:03.000What's going to impact the relationship?
02:19:05.000Like you said, you need to make it simple.
02:19:07.000The female going and being in the section with a whole bunch of niggas and going and sitting at a bar and getting drinks for free or whatever because men are hitting on them, that's going to impact the relationship.
02:19:18.000But like I said, me being the only person in this panel that I know of in a relationship with a man, I'm just saying, I tell him all the time, I'm like, I don't got a fat ass.
02:19:35.000Go look at bitches with some fat asses if that's what you need.
02:23:57.000What I'm referring to is that you make money off of thirsty guys that want to talk to you or whatever it may be because that proves my point that men want variety.
02:24:06.000The whole sex industry exists because of men's want for variety.
02:24:10.000Women don't want variety to the same level.
02:24:11.000Women don't want variety to the same extent that men do.
02:26:03.000Yeah, women can't lead anything when it comes to families.
02:26:06.000Minnesota, BZ Dreamcatcher here, asked ladies this, would they rather walk in on your 13-year-old son smashing some girl or your 13-year-old daughter getting smashed by some guy?
02:26:16.000If they must pick one to show there's a difference in cheating.
02:27:42.000Even if her father did not cheat on her mother at any time, they would keep it from her because that's what's best for the family's overall health.
02:27:49.000They shouldn't disclose that in the first place to her.
02:28:35.000But like, I mean, from what I was told and what I understand is that, one, because they couldn't keep work outside the house, shit got fucked up.
02:29:47.000What I'm saying is that I wish my mom would have put her pride to the side and put her differences to the side to keep my dad In the household, so that, you know, I would've- For the betterment of the family.
02:30:04.000Making a high-value man wait for sex when you're not a virgin is whole behavior because it's a form of holding your sex as leverage for benefits.
02:31:28.000I was talking with this Austin Dunham.
02:31:31.000Girls that watch this content a lot of the times typically watch it with their husband and or serious boyfriend and they agree with a lot of our points, man.
02:31:45.000Nick goes, as a startup founder with limited funds, you face a hiring decision between two equally qualified candidates, one male and one female.
02:31:52.000Considering potential long hours and maternity leave, which candidate would you choose to minimize risk?
02:34:03.000I think you're just trying to be rambunctious on purpose now at this point to just not answer questions, like, to try to assert some kind of dominance.
02:37:18.000But we're talking about a startup founder.
02:37:21.000But my point is that when you prioritize diversity, what you inadvertently do, maybe an unintended consequence, is you don't prioritize meritocracy.
02:37:35.000So if you're literally going, diversity is my main thing, you have to concede that meritocracy is going to take a backseat.
02:37:42.000Because you're hiring applicants based on their gender, race, etc., and not necessarily...
02:37:53.000I said unfortunately that's what the world has come to, that you have to have black, you have to have Asian, you have to have Israelis, you have to have whatever, you have to have diversity and unfortunately that's what the world has come to.
02:38:05.000It's not really about your qualifications, which is why this question is hard to respond to because it's like you have to look at all aspects of the business.
02:38:14.000And now that you know that, do you see my point now when I say women deserve less because women get hired far more frequently?
02:38:56.000My argument earlier was that women earn less a lot of times because of their personal choice even though they have inherent advantages that give them a leg up on men that are better qualified than them.
02:39:11.000But I was speaking about specific positions.
02:39:13.000So, like, let's say if you were, I don't know, a CFO as a woman and a CFO as a man, the likelihood of a woman earning less is a lot higher than the man.
02:40:58.000That men understand that their values determine by how much money they make.
02:41:01.000A broke woman can still find a rich man.
02:41:04.000A broke man is never even going to get looked at by a rich woman.
02:41:07.000Well, the men that I've met, including...
02:41:09.000Once again, your personal experience does not necessarily reflect how the world works.
02:41:12.000But that's what you're asking, and I only know about my personal experience.
02:41:15.000It takes critical thinking skills to be able to step outside of the box of your own life and look at the world objectively speaking and not subjectively speaking.
02:41:25.000This is a general conversation, but you've had an inability to be objective in the conversations.
02:41:31.000You've always had to bring everything back to yourself subjectively, which is, to be honest with you, a fairly low IQ trait to have.
02:41:37.000But if you're asking about my personal opinion, I'm going to give you my personal opinion, which is based upon my personal experience.
02:41:47.000If you want to talk about what Google and facts are, that's a different story.
02:41:52.000If your personal experience doesn't coincide with the reality of how the world works, you need to have the critical thinking skills to say, okay, I might have grew up rich with a spoon in my mouth and everything, but I understand that the world works this way.
02:42:04.000I wish I was grown up spooned in my mouth.
02:42:08.000I'm just simply giving an example that you need to be able to divorce your personal subjective feelings and viewpoints, right?
02:42:15.000From your experiences versus how the world really works.
02:42:19.000And I see that you've had a very difficult time doing that, which is scary because you have a master's degree, so I think you'd have some level of critical thinking skills.
02:42:25.000Well, maybe it was a misinterpretation on my end from your explanation because I thought it was based on our opinion and based on our life experiences.
02:42:34.000I didn't know it was about, like, facts and, like, Google and...
02:42:41.000You made a fairly absolute statement saying men earn more than women and I was like well that's disingenuous because men earn more because they deserve more because they work harder than women in general.
02:44:24.000I would think, like, you know, our education system would, like, if someone with a master's degree, they'd be able to, like, have a coherent conversation about things objectively speaking versus constantly referring back to the subjective and personal experiences.
02:45:11.000I mean, an inability to exercise critical thinking, I would argue that arguably that makes you not smart.
02:45:18.000I mean, you do this every day, and I don't, so I don't think it's fair for you to come here and tell me that it wasn't fair that my understanding of the point of the podcast didn't align with your understanding.
02:45:30.000No, I just thought, well, conversations every day consist of people's opinions, not facts on Google, so...
02:45:38.000Why do you keep mentioning Google, but who's bringing up Google?
02:45:42.000I mean, you guys keep talking about facts and keep talking about Google.
02:45:45.000I mean, because we typically, even if I'm not on a podcast, I talk about ideas versus, like, feelings and opinions, etc.
02:45:51.000Men tend to talk about ideas, women tend to talk about people, which I get it.
02:45:55.000This podcast has kind of shown that, that, you know, you're more concerned with, like, subjective thinking versus objective thinking, but that doesn't change the fact that, like, this is a conversation in itself, right?
02:46:05.000Like, I mean, I think Right, so conversation consists of opinions, and opinion consists of personal experiences.
02:46:11.000And opinions can be incorrect and be corrected.
02:46:13.000And I'm not saying that mine are correct.
02:46:14.000I'm just voicing my opinions, that's all.
02:50:01.000If you had a son, would you be happy to see him with a girl who has a high body count 20 plus with liberal values or someone with low body count and conservative values?