In this episode of the Fresh & Fit Podcast, Rolo talks about the Zodiac killer, Victor Bout, and the worst trade in U.S. history. Also, we have a special announcement about the case of Victor Bout and how the DEA got him. We'll be dropping a special episode on the case on Sunday, so stay tuned for that! Stay tuned for the full episode on Victor Bout on the Fresh n Fit Podcast on the 19th of February, 2020. I'll be streaming it live on Sunday at 3pm EST on twitch.tv/FreshnFitLocals. If you don't know who Victor Bout is, then you're in for a real treat, because we'll be breaking down the entire case of the merchant of death aka Victor Boutman, aka "The Merchant of Death" and how he was caught by the DEA selling weapons to the FARC in Thailand in the early 2000s. We're going to talk about how they got him, how he got caught, and how they handled the situation, and why it was such a bad deal. It's going to be an interesting case, and I can't wait to break it down and talk about it on the show on Sunday. Stay Tuned for the live stream on the 18th of Feb, 2020, where we'll drop the full breakdown of the case! I hope y'all enjoy this episode! Enjoy! -Rolo and the Freshn Fit Podcast! -The Rolo Show! Hosted by Freshn' Fit Podcast. -The Rational Malerumour - The Rolo Tomasi Rolo and The Rational Male Rumble - Rolo's Story - The merchant of Death - The Merchant Of Death? - The best trade in the US History of the Worst Trade in US History - The Zodiac Killer? The most horrible trade in US history? -Victor Boutman's Case - The Man Who Wasn't Given a Good Deal? , and much more! , Rolo shares his thoughts on this case, plus much more... , and much much more. ...and much more, and much, MUCH MORE! . (featuring the Rolo Podcast, we hope you enjoy it! We hope you guys enjoy it and enjoy it!! :) -ROLO'S ROLO! ( ) FOLLOW
00:03:41.000And yeah, I reacted to his case, guys.
00:03:44.000What I did was I took a documentary from the show Declassified and I broke it down and we went over the case and how the DEA was able to set it up and get him arrested and everything else like that.
00:03:52.000And you guys are going to see exactly how bad of a dude this guy is, man.
00:03:57.000He was trying to sell weapons to two undercover DEA informants posing as FARC operatives.
00:04:03.000And the purpose of selling the weapons were, it was going to be ground-to-air missiles and also sniper rifles to kill American soldiers that were helping Colombian soldiers fight against the FARC. And Victor Bao was supposed to supply these weapons to them, and that's when the DEA took them down in Thailand.
00:04:18.000So, um, and he did a bunch of other stuff too.
00:04:20.000So if you guys want to go check that out, I'm going to drop that on Sunday for y'all.
00:04:27.000Victor Boutman and something very fishy about that.
00:04:30.000That was such an imbalanced trade too.
00:04:32.000It makes me think that they owe the Russians something.
00:04:35.000Yeah, and this has happened before where we've caught one of their spies, they catch one of ours, and then we just do the trade.
00:04:39.000You know, there's a whole other case back in the early 2010s where we caught like 10 Russian spies in the United States.
00:04:45.000It was the New York field office that did it, and we ended up trading them to get some of our spies back.
00:04:49.000So it always happens, guys, where we're catching spies, they're catching spies, and then, you know, okay, well, let's just trade our spies.
00:04:54.000But this one was actually the worst one that we've ever done by far.
00:09:37.000And I'm glad you asked that because I wanted, as far as impressions are concerned, I was telling these guys, I was telling Icy a couple nights ago and Mo and everybody else, And you guys too.
00:09:52.000Because when I did that show and I came back, my main impression was that we're on the cusp of something that is like the new commercial television.
00:10:01.000So back in 1945, post-war television, like ABC, NBC, CBS, all the major news networks and the television networks at that time...
00:10:14.000What they would do is they would collect all of these content creators, right?
00:10:20.000So they would have a show like Father Son Knows Best and I Love Lucy and all this stuff and they would have all these shows and they would keep them under one network.
00:10:28.000Well, that's kind of what's happening right now with podcasts.
00:10:31.000So you've got The Blaze, you've got PragerU, you've got Valuetainments trying to do something similar there.
00:10:38.000And then you've got Daily Wire, for example.
00:10:41.000They've got Ben Shapiro, they've got Candace Owens, they've got Jordan Peterson now.
00:10:44.000So they're collecting all of these sort of content creators that have really hot podcasts right now.
00:10:49.000And they're trying to drag them all up under this umbrella of, you know, whatever, an aggregate, I guess, of all of these podcasts.
00:10:58.000And then so, I think going forward in the future, you're going to see someone like, say, Jordan Peterson only on You know, Daily Wire because he's already signed a contract for that.
00:11:10.000So you're going to be on Daily Wire now?
00:12:16.000But I will say this is that we are on the cutting edge of this new media.
00:12:20.000And when I was done at that talk show in Los Angeles, one thing that was impressed upon me, and I don't think that enough people really realize this, is if you're a producer like Chris, Mo, if you're a producer, if you work behind the scenes right now,
00:12:36.000you're on the cutting edge because this is going to be the new media.
00:12:40.000This is going to be the new television.
00:12:42.000And it practically already is right now.
00:12:45.000When you go and you look at, say, Tim Pool, for example, Tim Pool is playing to...
00:12:50.000When the Kanye West thing went down on Tim Pool, I think he had something like 85,000 live views watching him.
00:12:58.000He regularly pulls between 40,000 and 60,000 live views.
00:13:06.000It's more on different platforms, but I can remember Tim Poole saying that, you know, when he's pulling like 35,000, 40,000 live views, he has a more market share in that time slot than CNN does.
00:13:18.000And so when I look at that and then I see what's going on, you can see these dinosaurs who are still We're good to go.
00:13:49.000They won't do that because it's too controlled and too paranoid.
00:13:54.000So when I tell everybody who sort of wants to get into podcasting, I would say always do live streams because it breaks down the fourth wall.
00:14:04.000I started doing live streams because it was engagement with my books and with my ideas and with my blog and everything else.
00:14:11.000And then I realized that it's what I call engagement media.
00:14:15.000You have to have that chat window there.
00:14:17.000Even pre-recorded stuff, it can be interesting for sure if it's really short-form stuff.
00:14:22.000But if you're going to do a show, if you're going to have a talk show like this, if you want to do anything that's involved where you can discuss concepts and ideas like we've been doing for what now?
00:15:15.000That engagement and breaking down that fourth wall is something that old order, old school 20th century TV cannot do anymore.
00:15:22.000And I'll tell you, it was a shock to their system to have me on that show because whenever I was answering questions from the audience or whatever else, I'm slipping into fresh and fit mode, right?
00:15:31.000I'm like, I'll swear on the show, you know, I'm seeing people in the audience and they're asking me these questions and I already know what I'm going to say when they ask me those questions.
00:15:42.000And I had people telling me, you know, hey, Rolo, weren't you nervous going on commercial television?
00:15:59.000But then I don't think we really appreciate the fact that, I don't know how many people are in the chat right now, but when you guys are playing to 22, 28,000, that will fill an arena.
00:16:17.000But the very fact that your audience is that broad, I don't think that that's in any way anything that like old order media is going to be able to compete with.
00:18:56.000And my question to you guys is that I've been listening to audiobooks, just like Rolo's been saying to listen to, and you guys have been saying.
00:19:06.000I've been listening to this one called 48 Laws of Power.
00:19:48.000But if that was able to happen in the past, and they didn't have a word for it, because I don't think imp existed in the past, but wasn't it just called changing different types of forms of words like lust and urges?
00:20:16.000It's like sort of a semi-Red Pill Christian podcast.
00:20:19.000And we were talking about incels, and we were talking about the rise of the Lost Boys and everything, and Black Pill Doomers and the MGTOW, you know, the more like sort of like the dregs of the Manosphere kind of side of things.
00:20:34.000And they were saying, you know, is this like a new thing?
00:20:39.000And of course, you know, my answer is no, they've always been around.
00:20:41.000Like, loser guys have always been around.
00:20:44.000So if you look at guys like, say, Steve Jobs maybe, but certainly like Wozniak, like Steve Wozniak, or if you look at Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos.
00:20:54.000These were the losers in high school when I graduated in 1986.
00:21:05.000There's always been the sort of like down, you know, you know, the emo goth guys who are just, you know, the depresso guys all the time or the nerds who couldn't understand why the jocks always got all the girls.
00:21:18.000And so, you know, back then we didn't have the internet and you were forced to get into a situation where you would have to become better.
00:21:27.000And you had to find a way out of the 80% so that you could get into, you know, the 20, at very least the 20% so that women would find you attractive in some way, even if it's transactional.
00:21:36.000But it inspired, I think, a lot of innovation for guys to sort of think creatively and try to find a way out of We're good to go.
00:22:09.000You get, what is it, 30% of guys are sexless in the last year or what, 2008 to 20, you know, the GSS studies would keep quoting over and over again.
00:22:17.000But that, I would say, is a result of this awareness that everybody else has right now.
00:25:09.000It's called The Five Stages of Unplugging, and one of those is sort of like the anger phase.
00:25:14.000And it aligns with the phases of grief, like dealing with grief.
00:25:19.000Like, you know, there's denial and there's anger and there's acceptance and all that other stuff.
00:25:23.000So what happens is guys get stuck in that anger phase because they don't have the creativity or they don't know what to do with themselves because all of the stuff that they thought was going to be possible that they were hoping for, that the blue pill said, here's this wonderful land of blue pill dreams and Land of milk and honey over here.
00:25:41.000And then they realize they can't get that anymore.
00:25:44.000And so they stay stuck in the rage phase and the anger phase because they really, really wanted that, you know, pussy at the end of the rainbow kind of thing.
00:25:56.000And now they have to actually, they realize they actually have to work for it.
00:25:59.000They actually have to do something, actually have like, here's the rules that everybody is actually playing by.
00:26:04.000But they want everybody to go back and play by the old rules, and it's never going to happen.
00:26:09.000Whenever I'm dealing with black pill doomers or anybody who's kind of nihilistic and despondent, it's usually because they still think that those dreams are possible.
00:26:16.000But what I try to tell them is this, is to cross that abyss You have to realize that there's more opportunity and there's a better life for you in a red pill paradigm than there is in a blue pill paradigm because now you have accurate information.
00:26:31.000Now you can build the life that you want to with the tools that the red pill gives you.
00:26:36.000You just lack the creativity and you lack the innovative spirit to actually say, you know what, fuck it, I can actually do this now because I know something that other people don't.
00:26:45.000I was happy knowing the RP truth because knowing the truth, I can actually adapt.
00:27:27.000Okay, so Myron always says that men have a masculine burden of performance, which I totally agree with.
00:27:35.000You know, men deal with that their entire lives.
00:27:37.000But here's where I disagree with Myron.
00:27:40.000When Myron said that women don't have a burden of performance at all, I would kind of argue that, you know, women for the most part of their lives don't have a burden of performance.
00:27:49.000But I do think that, you know, when a woman has a child, that's a hell of a gendered equivalent analogy when it comes to the closest thing to a masculine burden of performance in a man's life.
00:27:59.000But saying that, you know, a woman's burden of performance also, you know, to take care of a child comes from a completely different place within than it does from, you know, a man.
00:28:10.000So, you know, a man has to think about his future, family, kids.
00:28:15.000A lot of the woman only has, you know, that burden when she actually has a child.
00:28:19.000The difference, you know, being is that the woman's burden can always be lessened by a man coming into her life, but a man's burden of performance is eternal and cannot be shared among partners.
00:28:29.000You know, it is his duty and his duty alone with no societal reinforcement for women to perform even when they do have a burden of performance.
00:28:36.000But, you know, all the pressure in the world that we can put on men You know, but none put on women.
00:28:43.000So like, why do people refuse to acknowledge this in today's society?
00:28:59.000Well, I mean, dude, you got to remember that when I say that women don't have a burner performance, what I mean is they're giving their sexual market value just for existing.
00:29:07.000Like they can attract the man just for existing.
00:29:09.000So the man, right, doesn't get the ability and or the privilege to get a woman until he's built himself up.
00:29:17.000So you're talking about like damn near the end of the game when she's already having a kid because she's already done what she's supposed to.
00:29:37.000That's why when I see fat women, I'm kind of like, what the fuck?
00:29:40.000You're a failure because you had one job.
00:29:44.000But your only job was to not eat so much and not be fucking annoying, and you failed.
00:29:49.000So if I see someone that's a woman that's fat and annoying, bro, that's a double fucking L. Like, what the hell?
00:29:54.000So when I say women, there's no permanent performance on women.
00:29:58.000What I mean by that is there's no permanent performance on them to attract the opposite gender because their sexual market value is given to them.
00:30:29.000Well, that'll be the first thing anybody says is like, well, if you got tits and a nice ass, then you're going to go pop, you'll be big on TikTok, on Instagram, whatever else.
00:30:37.000Yeah, because there's always going to be that instant draw of sexuality.
00:30:40.000However, you still got to have big boobs and be thin and be flirty and everything else.
00:30:44.000That's probably the extent of, at least as far as the attraction side of things.
00:30:49.000I realize where he's going with this, which is like, well, if a woman has a child, then she's got this new set of performance standards that she has to live up to.
00:30:57.000And yeah, I can understand why people want to say, well, it's a lot of work to be a mom.
00:31:01.000Okay, it is, but that's like what's expected.
00:31:06.000For women who hit me up and say, I'm an alpha female or something like that, you're an alpha female because you chose to be.
00:31:13.000It's like, there's no such thing as an alpha female anyways.
00:32:05.000That's why I called it the burden of performance.
00:32:08.000For men, people give me grief about it.
00:32:10.000They say it should be the challenge of performance or it should be the benefit of performance.
00:32:14.000I'm like, yeah, the only reason I said burden is because women do not have the option, men do not.
00:32:21.000Burden, you gotta remember, the word burden in itself, depending on the context it's used, can be implied that it's obligatory or mandatory.
00:33:37.000And so when we talk about, you know, respect my name, talk about me, you know, whatever, you know, show some respect kind of thing, it's usually, are you respectable?
00:33:43.000What have you done that makes, like, respectability?
00:33:47.000You know, it's usually those same kind of qualities that women will describe when they're saying, a high-quality man, he's got to be ambitious, he's got to, you know, he's got to have some achievement, he's got to be educated, he's got to have a business going, he's got to, you know, be able to kick ass and take names, that kind of stuff.
00:34:02.000The things that would earn you respect in a male sense are also the same things that women are looking for in a high value guy.
00:34:09.000And so that the idea of respect is, even if you look at the definition of it in the dictionary, there's two definitions of it.
00:34:17.000One of them is the merited version of respect and the other one is like common courtesy.
00:34:24.000I'm just, yeah, you don't respect women.
00:34:27.000Well, I should respect you because you have bobs and vagine, right?
00:34:29.000I should respect you because you are a woman.
00:34:32.000Well, I understand where that comes from because guys want to say, well, you should respect women because they're the vulnerable sex and we have this protector instinct and I know where that comes from.
00:34:40.000But there is two qualifiably different definitions of respect that we hold for men and for women.
00:34:46.000And so when we talk about the burden of performance, the respect we have for men Is based on that burden of performance.
00:34:57.000I'm a woman, put some respect on my name.
00:35:00.000And it's almost a point of pride when women say you don't respect women as sort of a shaming tactic.
00:35:06.000But it's this very cheap, egalitarian version of respect, like common courtesy.
00:35:11.000We should all just open doors for each other.
00:35:13.000And for men, it's like, I don't respect you unless you can show me your receipts and tell you, unless you can show me what you've done.
00:35:19.000Yeah, women expect respect regardless of how they behave versus men kind of understand without even speaking to each other that respect is earned.
00:35:27.000You know what's funny is that women intrinsically understand that but they will never admit to it.
00:35:31.000They understand a guy who's respectable, like the guy that other men want to be and other women want to fuck.
00:35:36.000That guy is usually respectable in some sense.
00:35:39.000Even if he's a drug dealer and a gang leader or something like that, he still has respect because there's other guys that look up to him that want to be him.
00:35:46.000Whereas for women, it's Like, I'm a woman.
00:36:24.000There's other ones, but those two, if you can wrap your heads around that and understand that when you're dealing with women, they are looking at you from a different perspective of respect than you are with other guys as well.
00:36:36.000And then the last question was, are we going to have a live talk show about the RP? He said on the mainstream.
00:36:57.000Media companies, they live on advertisements, and most advertisers are not going to want to advertise on content like this.
00:37:05.000They're just not going to want to, bro.
00:37:07.000Because anything that's considered misogynistic or male self-improvement or anything that pushes up the patriarchy or any of this other bullshit, they're immediately going to look at it like, whoa, this is not good stuff.
00:38:17.000And then they'll go watch The Bachelor.
00:38:19.000One chick with all these guys or one guy with all these chicks.
00:38:23.000And it's the longest-running series on ABC. So, you know, let's hedge our bets here a little bit before we start giving other people grief.
00:38:31.000They'll accept the red pill when it's surreptitious and within the confinements of a stupid-ass dating reality show, but they will not accept it when it's ostentatious.
00:38:37.000So we're putting it out there saying, yo, yeah, this is why women do this and that and that.
00:39:12.000I got a script so I don't sound like Myron reading a Bluetooth, but I need advice on getting my 17-year-old younger brother to get out and start building himself into a man.
00:40:04.000Because there's no incentive for him to do anything other than what he's doing right now.
00:40:08.000If you're worried about his condition, you're worried about his state, then guys in that situation, especially if you're his brother, you're his blood brother, right?
00:41:25.000A little pain now for a lot of pain later.
00:41:27.000A little pain now within the safety confinement of his older brother than someone for real giving him real pain and he can't defend himself or he doesn't know how to move around in the real world.
00:42:05.000Find something that you both share, like some sort of common activity that you like because that will put you in a, it removes him from the sedated environment of playing video games and I don't know, smoking weed or whatever the fuck he's doing right now.
00:42:18.000It pulls him out of that and you're actually doing something.
00:42:20.000So like when men communicate, they communicate by doing.
00:42:28.000I agree with Justin Waller when he says this, like, you know, nobody's coming to save you, bro.
00:42:35.000Like he was saying that that was the most liberating time of his life is when he finally, you know, he was able to wrap his head around that.
00:42:42.000But then on the same token, it's like, well, but we also have this group of men who are here to like sort of lift you up and pull you out of all of that.
00:42:48.000And it's like, well, do I have a tribe or am I on my own?
00:42:51.000And I think really it's very important, particularly when it's your brother who is your blood brother.
00:42:56.000If you feel like you have a duty or you wouldn't be calling into this show if you weren't concerned about him.
00:43:02.000So, take that same initiative you took to call this show and use that to go and drag him out of that, start a project, even if it doesn't matter what the hell it is, it's just the intent of it is to pull him away out of that environment and put him into another environment where you can actually communicate with him and talk with him.
00:43:19.000We just mentioned before burnout of performance, which means this is also your task as well.
00:43:24.000If you really care about your brother that much, then it's on you to make sure he gets the right training, the right type of environment he should be growing because, look, we get it.
00:44:09.000You have to be the example that your brother wants to strive to be.
00:44:13.000Also, you've got to come from a position of authority as the older brother, too.
00:44:16.000You can't tell him, yo, I need you to do this, or yo, stop playing video games, blah, blah, but you're a triple chin fat piece of shit yourself.
00:44:21.000So you got to make sure you're on point so you can go ahead and tell him, I need you to get on point.
00:44:25.000Because he's always going to look back at you and be like, well, what about you?
00:45:10.000And here's my other thing is like the fact that you took the time to call in here means that, you know, you already know what the situation is with your mom.
00:45:16.000You already know what the situation is with your dad.
00:45:23.000And I will tell you this, if you don't do something, you will feel the effects, the downstream effects of whatever happens to your brother as a result of your inaction with your brother.
00:45:34.000Yeah, you got to be the example, my friend, as well.
00:45:37.000You know, you got to be a winner yourself so that you can go ahead and tell him, hey, this is what it is, because he'll just look at you and be like, what the fuck?
00:46:53.000I default to the same thing, because usually when I'm talking to guys who are depressed, I don't have a network of friends, blah, blah, blah.
00:46:58.000Nine times out of ten, they're overweight and they need to get in the gym and they need to change something about themselves.
00:47:04.000It's not just losing weight, it's also the endorphins and the dopamine and everything, all the good vibes that come when you're working out and you're You can, like, relieve tension and stress and everything else on top of that.
00:47:16.000There's a lot more to it than just, like, looking better for chicks, which, of course, that's definitely the benefit.
00:47:20.000Yeah, there's a lot of, you learn a lot of life lessons going to the gym and training.
00:47:25.000Yeah, I think for a guy, man, you do need a period of, like, muck mode where you're, like, working on yourself 100%, but at the same time, when that's done, you know, like you said, hit the gym 100%.
00:47:34.000But when you finish work, finish doing your studies, and you finish your fitness aspect of it, cool.
00:47:40.000When that's all said and done, go on a date.
00:48:02.000It's your boy, sweet Zach, roasting 304s on Rumble every after hours, and your humble narrator of the Rational Mail on the Fresh and Fit Discord.
00:48:16.000So the first time I called in was when Rolo was there back in April.
00:48:20.000And I just want to take a moment to thank all three of you at the table for the work that you've done, because it's improved my life in countless ways.
00:48:28.000On that call, you recommended that I join the Discord community.
00:48:31.000And I just want to give them all a really big shout out.
00:48:35.000And for all the men listening in and who will hopefully listen to this when it's on YouTube and on Rumble when it's no longer live, if you are looking for a circle of men who hold each other accountable and try to improve their life every day,
00:48:53.000It's one of the best decisions that I've made in my life.
00:48:56.000And thank you all three of you guys so much.
00:49:00.000I try every day to be an example in the community of what can happen when you stop all the bullshit in your life.
00:49:07.000And you really fucking focus and apply what Fresh and Fit tell you and the lessons in the rational mail and just really take it to heart.
00:49:15.000I'm a walking, talking example of how to go from a fucking fat nobody loser into somebody who takes control of his fucking life and makes things happen.
00:49:29.000I have a brief question for Myron, which is, I called in a few times ago and asked about call-in shows for Money Mondays just because you have so many kick-ass guests.
00:49:38.000And it would be really nice to be able to have that.
00:49:40.000And then I just have a very brief question for Big Mo when you're finished.
00:49:46.000Well, as far as Money Mondays with guests, you got to remember, guys, that a lot of creators are not really cool with doing things live, like answering questions live or stuff like that.
00:52:59.000Yeah, so I'm thinking about, you know, options for men, and it does involve that.
00:53:06.000Donating into a sperm bank, paying the approximate $500 a year to keep it, you know, per sample, $5 per year, and then subsequently having a vasectomy.
00:53:19.000Using that said sample when you are ready and willing, you know, and able to Why do you want to have a vest?
00:53:33.000Is it because you're fucking so many bitches that this is a problem for you?
00:53:39.000Usually when I get this question, guys are saying, will that be a societal disruptor of some sort for guys to get a male birth control kind of thing?
00:53:49.000And if that's what you want to do, what's stopping you from doing it?
00:53:55.000It's basically egg freezing for yourself.
00:55:26.000It's actually 98% effective, if I'm not mistaken.
00:55:29.000Are you worried that you're going to have to explain this shit to your future wife saying, well, I got a vasectomy because I was fucking all these bitches.
00:55:37.000Don't worry, I got it frozen over here and we're going to put it inside of you and we're going to have a baby.
00:55:45.000The outcomes are about 98% effective, bro, so I don't understand.
00:55:49.000You're calling in about a 2% chance of something happening.
00:55:52.000I think you're putting the cart before the horse, my friend.
00:55:56.000What I'm saying is if we as men freeze our sperm and then decide to unfreeze it when we are ready to have a baby with our loved one, that gives men the choice of when they're going to have a baby.
00:56:11.000Meanwhile, every guy who didn't do that is outbreeding you.
00:56:20.000He's saying that maybe that's the solution to offsetting the power that women have with hormonal birth control being unilaterally controlled by women.
00:56:49.000We freeze our jizz and we get vasectomies.
00:56:53.000And then when we finally meet our loved one, we have to explain to them that it's frozen and we have to do artificial insemination to the tune of probably like $25,000.
00:57:02.000I, you know, and then the reason why that's ineffective, like, I get this question all the time when we're talking about the male pill, because people will say, well, if we took the male pill, then finally the balance would be, you know, we would, there'd be balance to the force, you know, Luke.
00:57:17.000And I'm just like, I'm like, yeah, except for the guys who aren't on the male pill, those guys are going to be the ones that are going to be outbreeding you anyways.
01:01:25.000I think she lied about the IUD. Yeah, she probably did lie about the IUD. Possibly.
01:01:29.000Suit over here calling about condoms when the reality is they're going to smash a chick raw that probably didn't even have an IUD in the first place, bro.
01:03:56.000You did like two or three speeches for Anthony Johnson.
01:03:58.000So you should be working for him more than I am.
01:04:00.000Dude, you have done countless videos with Anthony Johnson.
01:04:04.000The entire reason you did the first video on the Nine Iron Rules of Tomasi was in response to whatever the fuck Anthony Johnson put you up to.
01:05:35.000When I'm talking about risking other men's lives, I brought it up on this show just last night, as a matter of fact.
01:05:42.000So what I was saying is this, is that when I read you guys that testimonial of that guy who had had a date with death, Self-deletion, yeah.
01:05:54.000So when you go and you look at those comments, and when I'm given handwritten notes from mothers who tell me, your work saved my son's lives.
01:06:05.000I had a date with death, and now my children have a father because I found your book.
01:06:12.000So when I see that and I go, okay, there's a lot more to just the red pill than just like getting your dick wet.
01:06:19.000There's a lot more to it than there's social aspects or psychological aspects that go along with it as well.
01:06:25.000So when I look at that, and then I look at guys who deliberately misinterpret what I say.
01:06:31.000Because they want to get a 30-second TikTok video or the TLDR generation thing.
01:06:38.000When I see that, I go, how many guys are going to be put off to my work because this dumb son of a bitch wanted to get likes and he wanted to get views and he wanted to get, you know, he wanted to say, oh, I'm going to put, here's what Rollo's wrong about, right?
01:06:53.000And so intentionally distorting what I have to say May, in some way, prevent guys from getting this information that could potentially save their lives.
01:08:13.000You literally strawman my position by saying that I said that you were responsible for people's deaths, and yet you're going to come back at me and say that I'm strawmanning you.
01:10:29.000I had a simp dance, so I have simp tendencies.
01:10:33.000I'm trying to break that chain right now.
01:10:36.000So, my question is, I'm going into accounting, and I wanted to know if the career is worth going, and if it is, what other degrees can I get so that I can make a higher income?
01:10:52.000I mean, accounting is a fantastic career field, man.
01:11:14.000I'm more concerned with you saying that you have simp tendencies because whenever you have simp tendencies, you're just one fucking blowjob away from being a simp.
01:11:22.000Well, I mean, it's just that, you know, like, my dad wasn't like a man-man, like the way y'all talk about how men are supposed to be because He was a simp with my mom, and my mom just dragged him, like, through the floor.
01:14:55.000For those of y'all that probably for the men out there that may be thinking of losing frame, masking the frame, or maybe thinking they want to stop watching Fresh and Fit because they probably got them a little shorty or even thinking of moving in with a shorty that they're dealing with, please listen to what these gentlemen are saying on the podcast.
01:15:13.000They're not staying out wrong like the previous caller said.
01:15:18.000I'm not trying to go too much into storytelling or doc myself, but hey, I used to be that dude that used to talk about the red pill, not red pill rage, but pretty much red pill back in college.
01:17:41.000Yeah, I would get back in shape because once you get back in shape, then you'll have the infrastructure to have the mindset to get the money back.
01:18:31.000I mean, Dania, when the nature of masculinity and femininity is lost to society, it's on the shepherds to protect the sheep from the wolves.
01:20:52.000Well, when you're thinking in those terms, it's like, yeah, and you're looking for answers that you don't know that you're looking for, then yeah, I mean, we are the teachers now.
01:21:05.000We tell guys, don't go to university anymore because you'll end up being a socialist or you'll look like Lena Dunham when you come out of whatever major universities or something.
01:21:13.000It's an indoctrination camp or something.
01:21:15.000And so we tell guys, don't go to university.
01:22:29.000A515, I've actually tried to shoot my shot on probably 10x as many women on social media than in person and has closed on more boxing person conversation than social media.
01:22:37.000Well, your Instagram might not be that great, my friend.
01:23:51.000Just learn how to create conversations out of nothing.
01:23:53.000Roosh used to say, have old man game, which is like, you know how old people just come to you and just start talking about fucking anything?
01:24:46.000Do you have a network of guys that you can hang out with?
01:24:49.000Most guys who are socially awkward with girls, they also don't know how to interrelate with guys as well.
01:24:54.000If you can go to the gym and you've got a regular workout partner, if you've got friends and something that you enjoy doing, build those networks first and then branch out.
01:25:15.000You know, shift it to only talking to three to five new girls a day, but start in the beginning with talking to three to five new people, regardless of gender, age, and then work your way towards the building and talking to women.
01:25:25.000And my last thing here, bro, go to Toastmasters, go to Key Club, go to hobbies where you can actually go to, like, for example, a sport, activity, and being in those environments will help you grow.
01:26:21.000With one of them, we hooked up in the club.
01:26:26.000When it got down to, hey, let's go back to my room, it just seemed like all the other girls in the group were so salty and wouldn't let it go.
01:27:28.000A lot of times girls will go on vacation with girls they don't even like like that just because they want to go ahead and get the hotel bill split.
01:27:51.000So that's just kind of part of the game.
01:27:53.000Whenever you want to go ahead and, you know, travel and meet girls that are on vacation or whatever, it might come to that situation where you're not necessarily able to close.
01:28:00.000That's why having wingmen is so important.
01:28:02.000Also, that's why sometimes you got to close a deal right there in the club and just understand that this is kind of what comes with the territory anytime you're going to be vacationing or meeting girls out and about at a vacation destination.
01:28:18.000Conduction here, for example, in this case, either she doesn't like you enough to say, you know what, it's worth me listening to my friends for tonight, or...
01:28:27.000You didn't get in the group well enough.
01:28:29.000So, with a big group, bro, you need to talk to everybody and be cool with them.
01:28:32.000Because that big group, if you don't have friends wanting to help you, it's going to be an L. So, yeah, cop blocking is going to happen because, bro, it's just you and her and her friends like, why is she getting a dick and not me?
01:30:49.000Like, to be honest with you guys, like, I did, like, you know, I was a little frustrated, but I wasn't mad because, like, you know, the day after, I went and, like, you know, met other girls.
01:30:57.000I'm just saying, like, you know, why do women slut shame each other like that so fucking bad?
01:31:03.000Yes, she said on this podcast, girls slut shame each other way more than dudes slut shaming them because the difference is this.
01:31:10.000When a girl slut shames a girl, they're not penalized for that shit.
01:31:33.000Yeah, he don't want to take an L. Bro, listen, man.
01:31:36.000If a girl's on a vacation destination and her front cock blocks you and she doesn't want to meet with you the next day, take the fucking L, man.
01:34:00.000I just wanted to let people know that y'all are really good for, uh, people's mental health.
01:34:05.000My mom recently died, and, uh, Your show is what me and my brother look forward to.
01:34:10.000Like, every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, we watch both shows.
01:34:13.000And I just want to put that out there that y'all are really good for the mental health because y'all kept us, like, afloat and keep, like, going, you know?
01:36:20.000So, if all these young chicks, they think they're hot shit, you know, they got super high standards, they're waiting until forever to meet, you know, Mr.
01:37:03.000I think the thing I should say here is that, yo, what you're proposing is probably never going to happen because such a minority of guys are fucking going to be...
01:37:11.000Yo, I don't think y'all understand how small the guys that think like us actually are.
01:37:21.000Matter of fact, if y'all don't believe me, people that even watch this show are still fucking sims.
01:37:25.000They watch to see the girls and follow them on Instagram and send them a bunch of weird-ass DMs and subscribe to their OnlyFans.
01:37:30.000So, I mean, bro, like, guys, I think the way we do, very, very small minority of men, bro.
01:37:35.000So, what you're saying is, like, just not realistic.
01:37:39.000Pretty much, it's a fail-safe for the chicks, right?
01:37:42.000Because they're going to go on thinking that they're going to find this guy with all their high standards, and then when they hit the wall...
01:37:48.000They're still going to get saved at the end of the day.
01:40:47.000So my question is something I can add maybe to the macro of the questions that have been asked lately.
01:40:53.000A lot of my friends, a lot of people I know, it's easy to see guys get into the black pill when they see high-status guys like Will Smith, Tom Brady, etc.
01:41:27.000Bro, the difference between you and these guys like Will Smith, Tom Brady, whatever, even though their value is way higher than yours and they have more social status, more money, whatever, they're not RP aware.
01:41:35.000That's the apex fallacy for guys, is what it is.
01:41:39.000You look at Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, whatever, all these guys filling with chicks 9 out of 10 times, Tom Brady, etc.
01:41:45.000Will Smith getting fucking cucked by his own fucking wife.
01:41:47.000It's because they're not RP aware and they weren't able to pick up on certain bullshit early on and they didn't establish a certain type of precedent with their woman.
01:41:54.000You You think if Tom Brady had his shit together and was like, yo, Giselle, this is how it fucking goes.
01:41:59.000Think she'd be divorcing this dumbass right now at 40 years old plus?
01:42:01.000The reason why she's even trying to do that right now is because she thinks that her value is higher than it really is.
01:42:06.000One of the things about being RP aware is you're constantly letting your girl know that she's replaced.
01:42:10.000The problem with Tom Brady is that he didn't do that.
01:42:45.000This is going to sound terrible, but this is why I tell y'all, don't go ahead and deal with girls that have big social media followings or girls that have clout or whatever, because that shit gets to their fucking head and they think they're more...
01:42:54.000They have an overinflated sense of self-worth.
01:42:58.000You would need the fucking status in the relationship, not the girl.
01:43:00.000When women have status and leverage, it makes her life miserable.
01:43:02.000When you have status and leverage, it makes her bond to you even more.
01:43:05.000Women want a guy who's better than her.
01:43:07.000Whenever there's a high-profile divorce or there's a high-profile breakup like Giselle and Tom or it's Jeff Bezos and Mackenzie, whatever it is, or Brad Pitt and whoever he's banging, whatever.
01:43:20.000There's always these guys who are good at...
01:44:12.000The bad leaders are passive-aggressive.
01:44:15.000What they're talking about right now, about making it very clear what the boundaries in the relationship are, that is what Jeff Bezos didn't do.
01:44:47.000She really thought, I'm 40 years old, I'm a used up Victoria's Secret model, but I can get back on the marketplace and be able to replace you or whatever.
01:45:01.000Maybe it's good news, but here's a take-home lesson from all this.
01:45:05.000It doesn't matter how much money you have, you can be the richest motherfucker in the world, and it's no insulation from your blue pill conditioning.
01:45:13.000You can be a Hall of Fame quarterback.
01:45:17.000And it's still no insulation from blue pill conditioning.
01:47:51.000That kind of guy, bro, but I'm trying to change so I can become a high-value guy.
01:47:54.000But it's kind of hard to break the fucking habits because I've been doing this for a long time.
01:47:58.000Any kind of advice, I already know to look for mentors and shit, but any kind of advice, you know what I mean, that I ain't really spoke about on how to make a change.
01:48:06.000What do you do for a living right now?
01:49:50.000This nigga was unmotivated, being a fucking bum, chasing after girls, going on three fucking dates with chicks, you know, spending time and money, doing a bunch of dumb shit.
01:49:57.000I have to tell them, what the fuck are you doing?
01:49:58.000Like, girls are only going to make you lose ambition and make you lose money.
01:50:01.000And yeah, you'll lose some semen in the process, but what the fuck does that do for you?
01:50:06.000So, like, I mean, you know, and here's the thing, I could tell probably more than likely since you're making 50k per year and you work, you know, a good amount of hours, whatever, you're probably a Chad, probably to some degree a natural.
01:50:17.000Yeah, man, you just gotta, you gotta just stop being a fucking loser.
01:50:20.000You gotta cut the girls back and start really focusing on making money because 34 years old making $50,000 per year.
01:51:15.000And I'll tell you, it's more important to get your finances on lock simply because if you're fucking a lot of bitches, fat or not, you're running the risk of having them sort of locking you down while you're a $50,000 wage employee as opposed to a guy who could maybe have more money later on.
01:51:34.000So getting locked into a situation with a woman Women are dream killers.
01:51:40.000And I don't mean that in a sense like they're trying to manipulate you.
01:51:42.000Guys will kill their own dreams because they got into a situation that they can't get out of with a woman.
01:51:48.000So they'll go, well, you know, I'm not going to go and try to pursue any more money.
01:51:52.000I'm fine with 50K and that's where I'm going to stay right now because they'll rationalize it in their heads by saying like, hey, look, I've got a girl, I've got a baby on the way, whatever else.
01:52:41.000So when you're getting the most sex, nine out of ten times, you're also going to be spending quite a bit of time to do that and to also, you've got to spend money.
01:52:47.000You've got that shit on lock right now anyway.
01:52:48.000Yeah, and unfortunately, that's going to fuck with your ability to earn more.
01:55:39.000What most guys do is they'll say, oh, just chase excellence.
01:55:43.000And to the exception of everything else, not whatever excellence happens to me.
01:55:47.000And usually people are, you know, entrepreneurship, money, whatever.
01:55:50.000So it's usually money, muscles, and game.
01:55:52.000I know I've got an essay in me about this, but there are synergies between money, muscles, and game.
01:56:00.000So when you get your fitness on lock, then that has effects on the other two, like so.
01:56:05.000So when you are focusing on just one to the exception of the others, that's when you kind of get lopsided.
01:56:11.000That's when you get a guy who's like, all he is is just about money, and then he gets rolled by some chick because he never really worked on his game, and he never really worked on his physique, right?
01:57:00.000I would find books written by experts in different fields like real estate or high ticket sales or building funnels or something to that effect.
01:57:10.000Anytime I'm in the gym, anytime I'm in my car, anytime I'm eating, I am listening to an audio book that is turning my business to eight figures.
01:57:45.000Find subject matter experts in a career field that will help you and become obsessed with learning.
01:57:51.000That is one of the greatest ways, becoming a subject matter expert, to find another career field or to discover another path to entrepreneurship.
01:58:08.000But you can listen to every word they ever said.
01:58:10.000You can listen to them at double speed while you're doing another job making money, while you're driving, you know, Uber Eats or you've got your truck driver or whatever.
01:58:24.000You're going to be looking for Path A and inspiration is going to hit you.
01:58:27.000Me listening to all these audiobooks by self-help coaches, one of the things I realized, man, a lot of these guys in self-help are terrible with women.
01:58:35.000Holy shit, why not create a product about it?
01:58:37.000The other thing I figured out is a lot of these guys who are good with women are horrible, horrible fucking leaders who can't maintain eye contact and talk to people like bitches.
01:58:46.000I discovered this inspiration by studying and trying to become a subject matter expert in something I was interested in, and then inspiration hit me, and then that's where you create a new business.
02:00:31.000All within about the same year period.
02:00:34.000And when you get to be my age and people are dropping that you know, this isn't supposed to happen until I'm 80.
02:00:41.000So when I see this kind of stuff, I realize just how little time I have.
02:00:46.000So when I'm working with people like Mike or even my newbies and stuff like that, I'll go, you know, you guys really got to learn this fucking shit because I'm not going to be around here forever, big Mo.
02:00:55.000And so people are like, oh, do you have cancer?
02:01:14.000There is no plan B at this stage in my life right now.
02:01:18.000So it's like I kind of have to, I feel like I have to get off my ass and do stuff all the fucking time right now.
02:01:24.000It's like Steve Jobs when he was diagnosed with cancer.
02:01:28.000He was more productive in the time where he was diagnosed to the time he died than at any other time in his life.
02:01:33.000And I think if you can adopt that mentality earlier on, you'll get a whole lot more done and you'll feel a whole lot more, I mean, say content, but certainly more fulfilled that you're actually doing something, you're living up to your potential.
02:02:36.000You are never going to catch us saying that shit like, we're alpha, blah, blah, blah.
02:02:39.000Go watch the video by VoxDay, the definitive video by VoxDay on sociosexual hierarchies, and tell me if you see anything related to sigma males.
02:02:58.000Say the term alpha or beta or whatever, it's typically as like a placeholder to describe a lower status man versus a man that's of higher status.