Fresh & Fit - April 13, 2026


He Made Hedge Fund Investing Possible for the Middle Class w- Kam Dasani


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In this episode of the Fresh and Fit Podcast, we are joined by our good friend and former student, Sahil. We talk about how he got started in trading and what it takes to be a successful swing trader.

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00:11:52.000 And we are live.
00:11:54.000 Guys, Monday, Monday, especially in fit with Cam and my name is Sahil.
00:11:59.000 I will be covering swing trading today.
00:12:01.000 Let's go.
00:12:09.000 They counted me out, Raising my destiny, shaking his hand, Flipping the script, changing the plans, All screwed at top.
00:12:14.000 And I'm taking the fans, Making them jump, making them dance.
00:12:17.000 Making them jump, making them dance.
00:12:20.000 We bout to change the game.
00:12:21.000 We, out here, taking names, Let our voices rise, Let them reach the skies.
00:12:27.000 We bout to change the game And we're back.
00:12:41.000 All right.
00:12:42.000 It's funny because the last time you were here, it was just you.
00:12:46.000 You bring your student with you.
00:12:47.000 They watched a show previously and I was a master trader himself.
00:12:51.000 So we know who you are.
00:12:52.000 They may not.
00:12:53.000 Tell them who you are.
00:12:54.000 First things first.
00:12:55.000 This is what $2 million in a Morgan Stanley account looks like.
00:12:58.000 The reason I'm showing this is because our client was nice enough to let me borrow this for the show.
00:13:06.000 This is what happens if you actually trade and invest long enough without complaining about.
00:13:06.000 Okay.
00:13:11.000 The market being in the red or your trades being in the red, you just have to keep going with the strategy that works.
00:13:16.000 So, he'll turn five grand into 30 grand since our last fresh and fit episode, which was on December 7th.
00:13:21.000 By the way, he watched the show, he wasn't in the chat commenting hate or saying it was a scam.
00:13:25.000 He watched it, so you know what?
00:13:26.000 I'm gonna give it a shot, put money effort behind it, and he's up.
00:13:30.000 So, good job, brother.
00:13:32.000 And he lost 70 grand in crypto before that.
00:13:34.000 Whoa, what?
00:13:36.000 He tried again.
00:13:37.000 See, people aren't willing to try again.
00:13:38.000 Yeah, and now I'm gonna hire him because he's so good, he's calling our own trades to the point where my own email list is upset.
00:13:44.000 They say, Kim, how come I didn't see this trade? 0.51
00:13:46.000 I'm like, it's fucking Sahil's trade because he's learned the strategies. 0.96
00:13:50.000 So that's what can happen. 0.98
00:13:50.000 Wow. 0.98
00:13:50.000 Right? 0.98
00:13:51.000 And he, what, December 8th?
00:13:53.000 After the episode, December 7th?
00:13:55.000 I'm just curious, what made you say, you know what, I'm just going to go for it?
00:13:55.000 One day after.
00:13:58.000 I believe in Kim.
00:13:59.000 Was it the number he showed on the screen?
00:14:01.000 What was it?
00:14:02.000 For me, it was just more of like for the longest, I've been trying to find something that I can learn a new skill set, find something I can do that I can still work my full time job.
00:14:12.000 And what's your full time job?
00:14:14.000 I work full time as a CT technologist in healthcare.
00:14:18.000 And then, so yeah, what Cam highlighted was the power of options, the amount of money you can make with it, the flexibility of it.
00:14:25.000 So that's what caught my attention.
00:14:27.000 And then what made me sign up, everything he said, it just sounded too good to be true.
00:14:32.000 I guess, crazy as it sounds, everything that he was offering.
00:14:35.000 I was just more open minded to it.
00:14:37.000 And I said, you know what?
00:14:38.000 Let me just try it.
00:14:39.000 And I'm happy I did.
00:14:40.000 How long have you been watching Impression Fit for?
00:14:42.000 How long?
00:14:43.000 Since, man, I would say end of 2022.
00:14:46.000 Wow.
00:14:46.000 That's when I started watching it.
00:14:48.000 Long time.
00:14:49.000 Long time.
00:14:49.000 So, Cam, real quick, for people watching right now, what is the edge you have with swing trading?
00:14:54.000 Because obviously, people feel like swing trading is not easy to do, but you've mastered it along with your student.
00:14:59.000 So, what's the edge you have that most people don't have, you would say?
00:15:02.000 The edge.
00:15:03.000 I would say years of experience, number one.
00:15:06.000 Building a team around myself, number two.
00:15:08.000 So, if I'm here, On this podcast right now, there's somebody else studying the market.
00:15:13.000 I have a team of traders that look at the market and have been doing this for years, and actually, some of them worked on Wall Street as well.
00:15:19.000 Perfect.
00:15:20.000 So, having that, it's hard.
00:15:20.000 Okay.
00:15:24.000 I should say this it's easy to beat somebody who's just like a self taught trading guy that doesn't really know what happens inside of Wall Street.
00:15:32.000 So, let's say someone's watching right now, they want to make money like Seahill did, and they have like 5K to their name or 2K to their name.
00:15:39.000 Is that enough to get started and really learn trading, or what do you say?
00:15:39.000 Yeah.
00:15:42.000 So, 2,500.
00:15:44.000 Is the bare, bare, bare minimum.
00:15:46.000 If you have anything less than that, you need to start with credit repair and credit building to go to the bank and get buying power.
00:15:53.000 We can help you do that if you have anything below that.
00:15:55.000 That obviously comes with a cost too, but it's gonna be obviously less than $2,500 because you don't have that.
00:16:00.000 Now, five to 10K, what we found is the sweet spot.
00:16:03.000 Sahil is actually how I found that sweet spot, meaning I knew it was true, but Sahil proved it again because he turned 5K into 30K in three months.
00:16:10.000 So anything above 10K though is really, really sweet spot, meaning like, Anything from 10 to 20 to 25, we just turned a 25k account into 100k during the war from December 17th.
00:16:23.000 During the war?
00:16:24.000 During this time, bro.
00:16:24.000 December 17th to March 4th.
00:16:26.000 So, and we have a video of five minutes me going through the Robinhood account, literally showing wins and losses, adding up to 25k going to 100k.
00:16:34.000 Because I have friends that lost a lot of money during the war and like they had no idea what was happening.
00:16:37.000 And it's kind of scary because with Trump's news and what's happening, you never know what's the angle.
00:16:41.000 So that's pretty good.
00:16:43.000 So I guess like, okay, let's say 2500 is the minimum.
00:16:47.000 What is.
00:16:48.000 Ideally, what people should put, you say like five to 10K?
00:16:51.000 Yeah, five to 10 is the sweet spot, and 10 or more is the super sweet spot.
00:16:55.000 But the reason I say it's super sweet spot is because people that have 10 or more can actually get into all the trades quickly with significant buying power, meaning they're not just like trying to turn 200 bucks into 400.
00:17:10.000 No, they're trying to turn 1,000 into 2,000, and that adds up.
00:17:14.000 But with 5K, you have to be a little more cautious, I would say.
00:17:19.000 And I would say that's probably how you started being a little more cautious in the beginning.
00:17:22.000 Until you get that 10k buffer, and now you can play a little harder with your 10.
00:17:26.000 And what are you using for platforms right now?
00:17:28.000 So, two things.
00:17:29.000 So, he uses Robinhood, and we use Robinhood because he copies our trades manually.
00:17:34.000 So, from his phone?
00:17:35.000 From his phone.
00:17:35.000 So, no computer, no laptop, just phone.
00:17:37.000 You can use your laptop if you want, but you can literally use your phone and click four buttons to enter a trade.
00:17:42.000 Yeah.
00:17:42.000 Now, obviously, you can click four buttons and lose all your money and gamble if you don't know what you're doing.
00:17:46.000 But if you're following the right people like he is, then you win.
00:17:48.000 So we use Robinhood.
00:17:50.000 Now, we have something new that I didn't talk about last time because we were working on it.
00:17:54.000 For people that don't have the time to trade, but see our returns and want it, you can hook up your trading account to my trading account through our API.
00:18:03.000 An API is basically a software protocol that connects two things together.
00:18:06.000 Think the Uber driver has to know where to drive, right?
00:18:08.000 So he needs maps.
00:18:09.000 So Uber connects to maps.
00:18:11.000 Our software connects.
00:18:13.000 For example, Sahil's trading account to mine and enters every single trade that I make, but proportional to his budget.
00:18:19.000 Example.
00:18:20.000 Wait, so you're saying I'm going to copy your trades without doing anything myself?
00:18:24.000 You don't have to do anything.
00:18:25.000 We finally found out.
00:18:26.000 Hold on, that sounds too good to be true, bro.
00:18:27.000 Come on, bro.
00:18:28.000 I know it does.
00:18:28.000 I know it does.
00:18:29.000 It's too good to be true because nobody can do it in an SEC compliant way, so they can't advertise it.
00:18:34.000 Because, for example, I'm busy. 0.97
00:18:35.000 I got shit going on. 0.98
00:18:36.000 I can't focus on trading all day like this. 0.99
00:18:39.000 I just can't.
00:18:40.000 So if I could follow the trades like that, that's like a cheat code.
00:18:43.000 Someone asked me today, what's the catch?
00:18:44.000 I said, there's no catch.
00:18:45.000 We solved the problem.
00:18:46.000 Meaning, nobody that I know has done this in an SEC compliant way.
00:18:51.000 That's important.
00:18:51.000 Okay.
00:18:52.000 It's extremely important.
00:18:53.000 Can you tell me what SEC compliant things are?
00:18:56.000 Because I think that's very important.
00:18:57.000 Okay.
00:18:58.000 First of all, SEC compliant, what does it actually mean?
00:19:00.000 SEC compliant means you are doing things above board.
00:19:04.000 Yeah.
00:19:05.000 Above the law.
00:19:06.000 Or I should say in the law.
00:19:07.000 I should say not above, but doing things the right way.
00:19:10.000 What makes it compliant?
00:19:11.000 Couple things.
00:19:12.000 One, we do not charge a performance fee of profits, we don't do that.
00:19:16.000 We charge a yearly fee for the software protocol itself, meaning what we are selling is the software protocol that connects your trading account to mine.
00:19:25.000 Second thing, you pick what stocks of ours you follow.
00:19:29.000 So let's say you see our list of 100 stocks that we like to trade or options that we like to trade on those stocks.
00:19:34.000 And you say, I don't like Meta as a company.
00:19:37.000 I'm not going to trade Meta.
00:19:38.000 That's your choice.
00:19:39.000 Obviously, our clients pick everything because they're paying us for that.
00:19:42.000 But the point is, they get to pick what stocks they follow, which makes it compliant. 0.99
00:19:46.000 So let's say I don't like, I guess, like the Saudis or something. 1.00
00:19:49.000 And they own this company, I can say no. 1.00
00:19:51.000 You can say no.
00:19:51.000 You can trade 99 out of 100 things we trade.
00:19:53.000 You can trade one out of 100 things we trade.
00:19:55.000 Doesn't matter.
00:19:56.000 Third thing, you pick the multiples, meaning you get to pick the risk management rules.
00:20:04.000 We explain them to you like, hey, these are the risk management rules you can pick.
00:20:07.000 You get to pick.
00:20:08.000 So now it's all your choice.
00:20:09.000 So we'll educate you, but as long as you pick, those are the things that make it SEC compliant.
00:20:15.000 So, what happens if you don't do it with that compliant?
00:20:18.000 Is that like what you call it?
00:20:20.000 Go to jail.
00:20:21.000 Go to jail, right?
00:20:21.000 Like, I wouldn't be talking about it if that was the case because this is too big of a platform.
00:20:21.000 All right.
00:20:26.000 So, some actual like history here would be I did one back in the day, and it was Forex.
00:20:31.000 They're like, hey, you know, put some money in.
00:20:34.000 We'll trade for you with the bot.
00:20:36.000 Just set it, forget it.
00:20:37.000 Huh.
00:20:38.000 If you don't know where I'm going with this, and you'll be fine.
00:20:40.000 I put about 20, 30K in, made 50K in total.
00:20:46.000 20, 30K out, left the profit in there.
00:20:49.000 And then they come close.
00:20:50.000 And I was like, yo, I just got hammered or scammed.
00:20:53.000 And my buddy put 300K in there.
00:20:55.000 All his money was gone.
00:20:57.000 So that was not SEC compliant at all.
00:21:00.000 That's why I feel like my mistake was not doing it under that rule.
00:21:04.000 Well, that's the other thing.
00:21:05.000 So Forex doesn't even like it's like apples to oranges.
00:21:09.000 Forex is its own thing.
00:21:10.000 Forex is not regulated by the SEC, which basically means they can do whatever they want.
00:21:17.000 They can just do whatever they want. 1.00
00:21:18.000 Like, they can fuck you. 0.99
00:21:19.000 And, like, the same way in crypto, like, technically, like, rug pulls happen, and, like, these rug pull guys aren't necessarily going to jail. 0.99
00:21:24.000 They're not. 0.81
00:21:25.000 Like, not yet.
00:21:26.000 But, like, it's not even the SEC's priority.
00:21:26.000 Not yet.
00:21:28.000 The SEC's priority is to protect people from getting screwed and scammed by the things that they care about.
00:21:35.000 One of them is the US stock market, which is what we're involved in.
00:21:39.000 So, yeah.
00:21:40.000 Okay.
00:21:40.000 So, that sounds pretty good.
00:21:43.000 I'm going to put 10k to myself.
00:21:44.000 Let's go.
00:21:45.000 So, I guess what stocks people look for now.
00:21:49.000 Offer your experience, and then how much do they put?
00:21:51.000 Or is that more like a behind the scenes stuff?
00:21:53.000 Yes and no.
00:21:54.000 So we trade a lot of tech, okay, even with the war.
00:21:57.000 So, for example, a lot of things.
00:21:59.000 Give them like one really good one that they could actually do.
00:22:02.000 What's that gold 550?
00:22:03.000 Gold 550, what's the expiration June?
00:22:05.000 Or further, January?
00:22:07.000 Better one than that?
00:22:08.000 Yeah.
00:22:11.000 Gold 500 call?
00:22:13.000 Okay.
00:22:13.000 Okay.
00:22:14.000 So GLD is gold on the stock market to make it simple.
00:22:19.000 GLD, $500 call.
00:22:22.000 Expiration January 15th of 2027.
00:22:28.000 That's a guaranteed banger.
00:22:30.000 Like, just invest and wait.
00:22:31.000 Like, don't even look at it every day just to look.
00:22:34.000 You look at TikTok, anyways, right?
00:22:34.000 Take a few seconds.
00:22:36.000 But let it ride out.
00:22:37.000 The expiration date on that trade is January of 2027.
00:22:41.000 What's it called again?
00:22:42.000 Gold.
00:22:42.000 So the whole thing?
00:22:43.000 GLD.
00:22:44.000 GLD, $550 call, which means we're predicting GLD, gold, is going to go up to $550.
00:22:50.000 Oh, $500.
00:22:51.000 I'm sorry.
00:22:52.000 $500 by January of 2027.
00:22:54.000 Yeah.
00:22:54.000 Okay.
00:22:57.000 I like it.
00:22:58.000 Yeah.
00:22:58.000 All right.
00:22:59.000 So let's say I'm a critic and I feel like this sounds too good to be true.
00:23:05.000 What is, I guess, the most I can make if I put, I don't know, 20K in?
00:23:11.000 Or what's the most you ever made yourself?
00:23:14.000 Okay.
00:23:14.000 So let me break down the different types of accounts we have and what trades they do because that's important.
00:23:20.000 You were at 30, 35?
00:23:22.000 I was almost at 40.
00:23:23.000 He was almost at 40.
00:23:23.000 Okay.
00:23:24.000 Some trades went down before the war, but basically.
00:23:28.000 From five to 40k realized profit within from December to now.
00:23:34.000 So that's like we're not even a year in to his account.
00:23:34.000 Yeah.
00:23:38.000 So his account, he'll probably get to six figures.
00:23:42.000 25k, we turned my uncle's 25k to 100k from December to now.
00:23:48.000 So yeah, right now it's actually, it went up to 100 and then it's down to 70, but it's still at 70.
00:23:53.000 It'll probably finish at 150, 200 for the year.
00:23:56.000 So you can make 150, 200 for the year and just be fine.
00:24:00.000 Like, that's what 25K will do.
00:24:04.000 In terms of what we trade, you asked that as well.
00:24:06.000 Yeah.
00:24:08.000 A lot of tech stocks.
00:24:09.000 So, for example, people don't understand with options, it's different than trading stocks.
00:24:16.000 About what's going to happen to certain stocks by certain dates.
00:24:18.000 So, I'll give you an example.
00:24:19.000 Bill Gates just got caught up with the Epstein stuff.
00:24:22.000 So, what does that do to Microsoft?
00:24:22.000 Oh, yeah.
00:24:24.000 People aren't super, like, overjoyed.
00:24:27.000 So, we made bets on Microsoft going down and we won on those bets.
00:24:31.000 So, that's what people don't understand.
00:24:32.000 What about the market?
00:24:33.000 I'll give you an example again.
00:24:34.000 Is PolyMarket one of those too?
00:24:35.000 Where you could, like, bet, like, PolyMarket or Calci?
00:24:40.000 It's like a predictions market.
00:24:42.000 Is that similar, you would say, or not?
00:24:42.000 So, yeah.
00:24:44.000 No.
00:24:45.000 Well, kind of.
00:24:46.000 You're buying contracts like the same way you do options, but you're kind of more supportive.
00:24:51.000 It's like a legalized sports betting.
00:24:52.000 Got it.
00:24:53.000 Basically.
00:24:53.000 Yeah.
00:24:53.000 Okay.
00:24:54.000 So with Microsoft, my uncle's stock portfolio is actually down while his options portfolio is up because the options portfolio is more specific in the shorter term.
00:24:54.000 Yeah.
00:25:06.000 But then his stocks are just like you're holding stocks.
00:25:08.000 So if the stock price goes down, the stock price goes down and you've technically lost money, but not if you don't sell the stock.
00:25:14.000 So there's pros and cons to everything.
00:25:16.000 Can I write off the loss?
00:25:17.000 If I lose like 20K, can I write that off on taxes or no?
00:25:22.000 No.
00:25:23.000 That's a CPA question.
00:25:24.000 My CPA.
00:25:25.000 Got you.
00:25:26.000 Yeah.
00:25:26.000 I'm thinking if I lose some money in this, I might as well get a write off for it.
00:25:30.000 I think only if you lose more than your principal, which you can't do on a single options trade anyway.
00:25:35.000 Meaning if I put $1,000 into a trade, I can only lose $1,000.
00:25:38.000 Okay.
00:25:38.000 So it's technically like you just lost your principal, which I don't think that's the case.
00:25:42.000 I think there's a cap to your losses.
00:25:45.000 But if you win, there's no cap.
00:25:47.000 Yeah.
00:25:47.000 So there's a ceiling, but there's no, like, I guess, floor?
00:25:51.000 Well, I mean, there's a floor.
00:25:52.000 There's a floor.
00:25:53.000 Yeah, you can only lose what you really invest.
00:25:53.000 But no, okay.
00:25:56.000 With other instruments or other trading opportunities, you can lose more than what you invest.
00:26:00.000 So there's like a stop loss, basically.
00:26:02.000 There's an automatic stop loss of your principal, yes.
00:26:04.000 Okay.
00:26:04.000 And what's your risk management protocol?
00:26:07.000 Because I can only imagine, as a trader, your mind is going to all these places.
00:26:11.000 And you want to, okay, let's say I lose here.
00:26:13.000 I want to win big over here.
00:26:14.000 It's like go crazy.
00:26:15.000 How do you risk manage your trading or swing trading?
00:26:17.000 I'm going to give my answer and then I want you to give yours because yours is really good.
00:26:20.000 Because you're new.
00:26:22.000 He's new.
00:26:23.000 But guys, do you know what's funny?
00:26:25.000 What it is?
00:26:25.000 I like it because I can talk to Cam, which is an expert, and someone who watched the show himself, give guys a real how he felt about it.
00:26:31.000 Exactly.
00:26:32.000 That was good.
00:26:33.000 So, my way of explaining it is this we will risk, and I said this on Brad Lee too.
00:26:38.000 My episode drops in June.
00:26:41.000 We will risk 10 to 20% of our account per trade, depending on how confident we are.
00:26:46.000 So, max.
00:26:47.000 So, we're not looking for home runs.
00:26:47.000 Yeah, max.
00:26:49.000 We're looking for first base hits, second base, third bases.
00:26:53.000 Okay.
00:26:53.000 So, if I have 100K in my account, easy numbers, and I put 10K into a trade, 10%.
00:26:58.000 If you have 10K in your account, then we'll put 1K into that trade.
00:27:02.000 That's what you would do.
00:27:03.000 Now, our software does that for you.
00:27:04.000 So, that's how we stop people from over leveraging and being emotional traders, too.
00:27:09.000 Right?
00:27:09.000 Someone like him, he's very disciplined.
00:27:10.000 He doesn't need to use it because he actually wants to learn the skill, which is now why I'm fucking hiring him. 0.97
00:27:14.000 Because he's so good, he's calling you. 0.85
00:27:15.000 Are you going to hire him?
00:27:16.000 Yes, because he's calling his own trades already.
00:27:18.000 Yo.
00:27:19.000 That's why he's here.
00:27:20.000 I flew him out for this because I'm like, bro, if Sahil got so good in four months that I want to hire him because my clients are emailing me saying, hey, can I copy Sahil's trades too? 0.98
00:27:31.000 Well, fuck me. 0.98
00:27:33.000 Maybe they can. 1.00
00:27:34.000 Right?
00:27:35.000 But talk about your risk management.
00:27:36.000 Yeah.
00:27:36.000 So I would say for me, because I started off with a smaller account, I started with 5%.
00:27:42.000 So 5% on every single trade.
00:27:44.000 I didn't go over that until I started building capital.
00:27:48.000 So, once you start making money, your 5% gets higher and higher and higher.
00:27:53.000 So, after like a month, my $250 trades turned into $500 trades, then turned to $1,000 trades.
00:28:00.000 And then I got a lot of confidence.
00:28:03.000 Then I started increasing my risk tolerance.
00:28:06.000 How fast did you learn the procedure?
00:28:08.000 Because you said you did it in three months, right?
00:28:10.000 Yeah.
00:28:10.000 How did you learn so fast?
00:28:12.000 Well, I would say the first couple weeks was just simply following their trades.
00:28:17.000 So, I was able to double my money just simply following their trades.
00:28:20.000 Wow.
00:28:21.000 Yeah.
00:28:21.000 And then I showed up every day.
00:28:23.000 I went to office hours that they had.
00:28:26.000 I took the time on my own to learn it.
00:28:28.000 And I would say, about after a month, I started making it, I started implementing it myself.
00:28:35.000 So that's when I ended up losing when I was doing it myself, but I wasn't going crazy.
00:28:42.000 Like $100, $50.
00:28:43.000 And then once I started getting confident, I started making money and getting into really good trades, which allowed me to raise my capital back up.
00:28:52.000 And Yeah, when I got to like 10, 15K, my trades started becoming like $1,000 a trade, $2,000 a trade.
00:29:01.000 So you started really small and it scaled up slowly.
00:29:03.000 Yeah.
00:29:04.000 Because I'm super nervous, bro.
00:29:05.000 If I'm going to lose money, I'm out.
00:29:07.000 So I'll be like, yo, I lost money, I'm out.
00:29:09.000 So you stuck with it even when you lost.
00:29:11.000 Yeah.
00:29:11.000 But also, I learned a lesson too, though, is that once I started gaining confidence, I started over leveraging a little bit.
00:29:17.000 Started going 10%, 15%.
00:29:20.000 Then I started losing some money and I got kind of scared.
00:29:24.000 But that thing, that's the cool thing about this group, that the resources that are there, That when I started losing trades, I was able to reach out to Cam, reach out to the team, to my traders, and be like, hey, this is what I'm doing wrong.
00:29:36.000 What am I doing wrong?
00:29:38.000 I was able to take a step back and be like, all right, I need to chill, stick to my rules, and then I was able to bounce back.
00:29:44.000 So, from what I'm seeing, well, what I've heard and seen from people I know that trade, the best traders analyze when they take losses.
00:29:51.000 Yeah.
00:29:51.000 So, that's why I'll challenge you on what you just said.
00:29:54.000 You're like, if I lose an amount, well, bro, people ask me some questions like, hey, how much am I going to make a month?
00:30:03.000 I've answered that before, but the reality is, it's what are you going to make quarterly and yearly?
00:30:09.000 Because there are cycles.
00:30:10.000 You think Warren Buffett played for 40 years and did as well as he did in the market without taking losing years.
00:30:17.000 People aren't willing to lose in a month.
00:30:19.000 It's crazy what I've seen.
00:30:20.000 So I'm like, bro, you can be down a month and up a quarter.
00:30:23.000 We've had that happen.
00:30:24.000 That 25 to 100K that I told you, that account, that was down in one of those months.
00:30:29.000 And then it blew.
00:30:31.000 So trading is about waiting, right?
00:30:34.000 That's why swing trading is literally a swing.
00:30:37.000 Okay, you're waiting for the trade and the prediction that you've made to come to fruition.
00:30:43.000 That's fair.
00:30:44.000 What if I lose all my money though?
00:30:47.000 If you lose all your money, that means you didn't do anything we say.
00:30:51.000 And if you're worried about that, do the software and let us do it for you because our risk management rules prevent that from happening, right?
00:30:57.000 We look since the episode that I came on in December, yeah.
00:31:01.000 Have we had clients fail?
00:31:02.000 Absolutely.
00:31:04.000 Why?
00:31:04.000 Two reasons.
00:31:05.000 Sahil, do you want to share them?
00:31:07.000 Well, just gotta pay attention and show up.
00:31:10.000 That's literally what it is.
00:31:12.000 The thing is, he's there, right?
00:31:13.000 So, like, it bothers me because I'm like, Seal, I'm worried.
00:31:16.000 Are we not doing a good job?
00:31:17.000 He goes, Everybody who has ever complained hasn't showed up to a single study session.
00:31:23.000 Wow.
00:31:24.000 That's annoying because I'm like, So, you're telling me we offer multiple study sessions a week after work hours and you can't make it?
00:31:31.000 And we've set those expectations.
00:31:33.000 Okay.
00:31:33.000 So, that's the first reason they don't show up or they just.
00:31:38.000 Overleverage and get really greedy.
00:31:39.000 We've had somebody, bro, run up 100k with us.
00:31:41.000 He turned 20k, 20 specifically, into 100k.
00:31:45.000 Okay.
00:31:46.000 And then.
00:31:47.000 How long was that period?
00:31:48.000 October 20th.
00:31:50.000 I remember the exact date he joined.
00:31:51.000 October 20th to like late December, bro.
00:31:56.000 It was fast.
00:31:56.000 It was a really hot time.
00:31:58.000 It was before I came on here, but he had like started and then he hit that gold run and silver run that we hit.
00:32:03.000 Bro, he gambled.
00:32:05.000 He borrowed money from Robinhood Margin, bro.
00:32:07.000 We do not teach this.
00:32:08.000 He just did it because he was like, I'm winning so much.
00:32:10.000 I need to overconfident.
00:32:11.000 Overconfident.
00:32:12.000 So, over leverage, overconfidence, or not showing up.
00:32:16.000 So, at what point do you take profits?
00:32:17.000 Because if I made 70K, I need profits.
00:32:21.000 Yeah.
00:32:22.000 So he was taking profits.
00:32:23.000 This is what I need to explain to you.
00:32:25.000 He was selling the trades.
00:32:27.000 He just then went and said, I have 100 grand in my account now.
00:32:30.000 Let me go borrow a bunch from Robinhood, whatever they'll give me.
00:32:33.000 And now I blew my entire account, losing it all.
00:32:35.000 So, when do you take profits?
00:32:37.000 That was a different question.
00:32:38.000 When you take profits is dependent on the trade.
00:32:40.000 So, there are certain trades.
00:32:41.000 We did two trades today on vlog.
00:32:42.000 We're going to post the vlog.
00:32:43.000 It was literally live.
00:32:44.000 So, you could see him in Miami on my balcony condo trading with our traders.
00:32:49.000 Learning and hitting trades himself and also following our trades at the same time.
00:32:53.000 You'll see it live.
00:32:54.000 We hit a 20% trade and we hit a 100% trade.
00:32:56.000 Those are different trades.
00:32:57.000 So we know when to take profit on each one.
00:32:59.000 So I'm actually a little bit worried because I'll tell you why.
00:33:03.000 Yeah.
00:33:04.000 I've been pitched by other traders to come on the show.
00:33:07.000 Yeah.
00:33:07.000 And I've said no because from what I've seen and what I've heard and what I've been viewing, they can't trade live.
00:33:15.000 Now, I'm all for screenshots and proof.
00:33:19.000 But TJR, for example, just call his name here.
00:33:22.000 He was trading live with a student.
00:33:25.000 Is that real?
00:33:26.000 And I say real because, like, I don't really see the method behind it.
00:33:31.000 I just see, like, some numbers on it.
00:33:32.000 You want to come over tomorrow morning?
00:33:34.000 Sure.
00:33:34.000 We have our videographer, John.
00:33:35.000 You know, John?
00:33:36.000 But this is what I'm saying.
00:33:37.000 I've heard they can make a prop account look like a real account and then say, hey, I just made this much money.
00:33:43.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:33:43.000 Get a prop account, which is not a real account.
00:33:45.000 Yeah.
00:33:45.000 And then run with that as, hey, look, guys, this is what I made my student.
00:33:48.000 Well, XYZ.
00:33:49.000 So TJR, first of all, trades futures and he trades prop firm futures.
00:33:52.000 That's different than.
00:33:53.000 Prop account.
00:33:53.000 I know what you mean when you say.
00:33:54.000 I'm not saying that he did that.
00:33:55.000 I'm just saying in general, that's what I've seen some people do.
00:33:57.000 No, no, no.
00:33:58.000 I'm with you.
00:33:58.000 But I'm also saying when you say prop account, you mean a fake account.
00:34:01.000 Yeah.
00:34:02.000 What I'm saying is prop firm capital is what TJR trades, which is very different.
00:34:06.000 Prop firm capital means you are taking leverage from trading firms, very different than margin.
00:34:12.000 We talked about margin already.
00:34:13.000 Margin is when you go borrow from Robinhood.
00:34:16.000 Prop firms are their own companies.
00:34:17.000 You go basically take $50,000 and you're not actually responsible for it.
00:34:22.000 It's not risky like people think it is. 0.99
00:34:24.000 But the game is so hard to play because the company giving you the 50K, they say you have to trade a certain way and make this type of money and this much money, or else we'll just take our 50 grand back and you're fucked. 0.97
00:34:35.000 So it's really hard. 0.81
00:34:36.000 It's for like very, very experienced traders.
00:34:38.000 Most people can never figure it out.
00:34:40.000 So the reason I say your question was is it fake?
00:34:45.000 I cannot tell you whether somebody else is faking a testimonial or faking a client.
00:34:49.000 What I can tell you is prop firm capital is very hard to trade.
00:34:54.000 Flew him out here to vlog live, and I can even prove this.
00:34:58.000 These would be for receipts.
00:34:59.000 No, no, this would be financial fraud if I was BSing.
00:35:02.000 Okay.
00:35:02.000 He has two contracts with us, meaning Sahil paid us twice to be a client.
00:35:08.000 Okay.
00:35:08.000 And I can go through all these pages, or you can just ask him and you can look over this later.
00:35:13.000 But Sahil paid us twice. 0.98
00:35:14.000 He paid us once on, let's look at the fucking date. 0.99
00:35:17.000 Hold on. 1.00
00:35:18.000 Boom.
00:35:19.000 Initials $5,000 paid.
00:35:21.000 Boom.
00:35:21.000 That was our old price.
00:35:22.000 Let's keep going.
00:35:24.000 December 11th, Sahil signed.
00:35:27.000 Oh, he's on plane.
00:35:28.000 Sahil Ram.
00:35:28.000 Okay, it's your full name.
00:35:29.000 Don't give a fuck. 1.00
00:35:30.000 Okay, look, he signed. 1.00
00:35:31.000 Second time he renewed, look how quickly he renewed because he already made so much money that he was like, I have to stay involved.
00:35:40.000 Oh, sorry.
00:35:41.000 These are other people that renewed early.
00:35:42.000 I brought it all with me.
00:35:44.000 Only brought Sahil to the show, though. 0.96
00:35:45.000 Okay.
00:35:46.000 February 5th, Sahil signed.
00:35:49.000 So, meaning December 11th and February 5th, he has a six month contract with us.
00:35:54.000 He's not even done with six months.
00:35:55.000 He's already renewing.
00:35:56.000 Papers everywhere.
00:35:57.000 Yeah.
00:35:58.000 Is it because you were making a lot of money?
00:36:00.000 You said, you know, I can't stop now?
00:36:01.000 Yeah, because I was thinking, well, in two months, I made X amount of money.
00:36:08.000 I can't imagine what a year would be.
00:36:10.000 So, I just, I don't know.
00:36:13.000 I got my conviction with them.
00:36:15.000 Like early on.
00:36:16.000 So I was, I just want to be a part of it.
00:36:18.000 I want to learn.
00:36:19.000 And then, yeah, just to see where it goes.
00:36:21.000 Is it going to surpass your job income soon or not?
00:36:28.000 On a daily basis, if I still keep going the way I'm going, yes, it will.
00:36:33.000 Now, will it replace it?
00:36:35.000 Who knows?
00:36:36.000 Like, you know, I have a pretty good income, so I can't really give up a job just because, you know, security reasons.
00:36:42.000 The dream is to do that one day.
00:36:43.000 But the dream is to be financially free.
00:36:45.000 But having that income plus this is like, yeah, right.
00:36:48.000 Okay.
00:36:48.000 Good.
00:36:49.000 So, I guess, what's the downside of trading with you guys?
00:36:52.000 Because, I mean, it sounds pretty good to me.
00:36:54.000 There's no possible downside, I guess.
00:36:56.000 No, no, there is a downside.
00:36:57.000 The downside is you have to sometimes wait a little longer than your gambling mind wants to.
00:37:03.000 So, the reason people like trading as a whole, you got to think of the hierarchy of things, right? 0.99
00:37:08.000 There's dating coaching and fitness coaching, which means, oh, fuck, I have to do the work. 0.98
00:37:13.000 I can't just pay for Box. 0.99
00:37:14.000 Right?
00:37:15.000 Like, that's what I'm telling you, bro.
00:37:16.000 Like, people don't want to do it.
00:37:18.000 And they're in Miami or wherever they're in LA, wherever it's popular and they want to do it.
00:37:22.000 Okay.
00:37:22.000 Then there's like start a business, flip houses, Airbnb.
00:37:27.000 People know they have to do work.
00:37:28.000 They know, like, they're not confused.
00:37:30.000 Trading in the human mind is like gambling.
00:37:33.000 They're like, I'm sitting behind a screen.
00:37:35.000 There's numbers.
00:37:36.000 Let me place a bet.
00:37:37.000 So they think they're going to be rewarded like a gambler.
00:37:40.000 And sometimes they are.
00:37:41.000 Today, what was our trade that went up 100% today?
00:37:43.000 What trade was that?
00:37:44.000 Tesla.
00:37:44.000 It was Tesla.
00:37:45.000 Tesla call.
00:37:46.000 Do you remember?
00:37:46.000 Say the exact call.
00:37:48.000 It was a.
00:37:49.000 You remember what it was?
00:37:53.000 Tesla 355 call expiration date today.
00:37:57.000 Okay.
00:37:57.000 Yeah.
00:37:58.000 So that trade, like you'll see this on our vlog.
00:38:02.000 We cannot edit this.
00:38:03.000 It's literally shooting up and he's typing.
00:38:06.000 Do you know what Whisper Flow is?
00:38:07.000 Where you talk to type?
00:38:08.000 Bro, everyone here download Whisper Flow.
00:38:10.000 You press the FN key on your computer and you just talk and the computer types wherever you want email, Discord, Slack.
00:38:15.000 He's talking 55%, 65%.
00:38:18.000 What's it called again?
00:38:19.000 Whisper Flow.
00:38:19.000 I'm not an investor.
00:38:20.000 This is not Evan Disney.
00:38:22.000 It changed my life.
00:38:23.000 It's on your phone and computer.
00:38:24.000 Whisper Flow will change your life.
00:38:26.000 Go right now.
00:38:26.000 Go right now.
00:38:27.000 Live on air.
00:38:28.000 It's on my computer right now.
00:38:30.000 Change my life.
00:38:31.000 You know what intelligence is?
00:38:32.000 Intelligence is what you guys just did.
00:38:34.000 The sign of taking information and acting on it. 0.99
00:38:37.000 My fucking trader, who's sitting over there, took the information of Whisper Flow the next day. 0.99
00:38:37.000 Right away. 0.99
00:38:42.000 It was on his computer.
00:38:43.000 And on our vlog today, he's going 55%, 65%, 75%, 85%, 95%, 100 sold.
00:38:50.000 Like, you will see this.
00:38:51.000 So the point is.
00:38:52.000 We're at an auction right now?
00:38:56.000 There are gambling rewards like that.
00:38:56.000 So the point is.
00:38:59.000 The problem is, people expect that every time.
00:39:01.000 So that's the downside.
00:39:02.000 I had a woman email me yesterday, a 60 year old woman, nice lady, paid for our mentorship, realized, and I told her, I was like, I think you should pay for software.
00:39:09.000 She's like, no, I really want to learn.
00:39:10.000 Realized it would take a lot of her, you know, a decent amount of her time.
00:39:12.000 And then she was like, I think I want to upgrade to software.
00:39:16.000 I'm like, cool, here's the software price.
00:39:17.000 She's like, cool, cool.
00:39:18.000 Now she's on the software.
00:39:19.000 She's like, Cam, I'm really happy with you guys.
00:39:22.000 I think you guys know what you're doing, but I just want to make sure that I'm going to make money here because it's been like two weeks and I haven't made enough money.
00:39:29.000 And I'm like, okay, enough money with respect to what?
00:39:32.000 So people need to have, and I say this with dating too if you don't have something to compare something to, then your expectations come from your head.
00:39:40.000 Okay.
00:39:40.000 So if I say, if I say, I want to date a runway model who's a PhD, also only 22, and also worth 10 million, I'm setting myself up for failure because it doesn't exist.
00:39:51.000 So women have these expectations for men too.
00:39:53.000 They're like, I want somebody who's jacked, six feet tall, multi millionaire, doesn't cheat, does this, does this, doesn't have a social life, only cares about me.
00:40:01.000 Who is he?
00:40:02.000 Have you found them or are you just making it up?
00:40:04.000 So, the same thing with trading.
00:40:05.000 Don't make things up that nothing in life has shown you is true.
00:40:11.000 So, there are going to be months that you might be down, but there might be quarters when you're up.
00:40:15.000 Are you willing to wait?
00:40:16.000 The only clients that we have that genuinely fail simply don't play the game for long enough.
00:40:22.000 That's it.
00:40:22.000 Good point.
00:40:23.000 Yeah.
00:40:24.000 All right.
00:40:24.000 We got any chats here, Bills?
00:40:26.000 I'd love to ask you.
00:40:26.000 By the way, super chat questions as well because this is live, by the way.
00:40:30.000 You know, it's funny.
00:40:33.000 I.
00:40:33.000 I started learning trading, right?
00:40:35.000 And it's going pretty well.
00:40:36.000 But I can only imagine sitting down and focusing on this all day, it's mentally draining.
00:40:45.000 So I would actually want to have like an auto trader or a system I could follow because I could streamline.
00:40:52.000 I could do this, set it, forget it, and focus on what I'm good at.
00:40:56.000 So can I say one thing to that?
00:40:57.000 Yeah.
00:40:58.000 The reason why most people get scammed by auto traders is because they are AI powered, not API powered.
00:41:06.000 Here's the difference.
00:41:09.000 I want to say names.
00:41:11.000 I'm not going to say names.
00:41:12.000 Someone can sell an AI bot, which means you can use it, and you don't know if the trader's actually using it.
00:41:21.000 You don't know.
00:41:22.000 I don't know.
00:41:22.000 Yeah.
00:41:23.000 The API connects your trading account to mine.
00:41:26.000 So if I lose, you lose.
00:41:29.000 If I win, you win.
00:41:30.000 I'm incentivized to win.
00:41:31.000 You're in all the trades that I'm in, and it can be proven every single time.
00:41:34.000 Wow.
00:41:35.000 Any day.
00:41:36.000 You can say, Cam, did you do this trade?
00:41:38.000 Yes.
00:41:39.000 Because that's what the API does. 0.91
00:41:40.000 Otherwise, how would it fucking put trades on your account? 0.93
00:41:43.000 Right. 0.89
00:41:43.000 So, very few people have this built, and very few people have this as an SEC compliant option. 0.89
00:41:51.000 How do you handle losses?
00:41:55.000 Well, you just gotta just, sometimes you just gotta take the loss, right?
00:42:00.000 Accept it.
00:42:00.000 But you just gotta just trust the process.
00:42:04.000 That's really what it is, right?
00:42:06.000 So when we have losses, sometimes we just, I would say there's barely any losses, to be honest.
00:42:12.000 Cause if we have one losing trade, the next five trades are winning trades.
00:42:16.000 Seven are up.
00:42:17.000 Like, it's like, I mean, yeah, we have losses every now and then, but it's like literally like that.
00:42:21.000 Like, you may have one losing trade, but then the next five, six, seven are winning trades.
00:42:26.000 And it just, as long as you stick to your risk management, The loss is not going to hurt you exactly if you do the risk management right.
00:42:33.000 Yeah, the second thing I'll say, great point.
00:42:35.000 The second thing I'll say is understanding that just because a trade is in the red doesn't mean you lost, so that's the power of options is that you can set the dates in which your trades expire.
00:42:46.000 So we said the gold trade January 2027.
00:42:50.000 Who gives a what happens until then?
00:42:52.000 That's the last date where it should matter, yeah.
00:42:55.000 But people aren't willing to wait.
00:42:56.000 Cam, I'm down 50%.
00:42:59.000 We just had an Amazon trade.
00:43:00.000 What was down 80%?
00:43:01.000 It was down 80%.
00:43:03.000 Now it's up 50% and that expires in September.
00:43:07.000 So, would you say trade money that you don't actually need is a better option?
00:43:12.000 Because if I don't need the money, I can set it, forget it.
00:43:15.000 But if I need the money tomorrow, hey, yeah, I wouldn't do that.
00:43:18.000 I would only trade money that you technically have to lose.
00:43:22.000 But if possible, I would go play with some sort of leverage.
00:43:25.000 I don't mean margin from Robinhood.
00:43:28.000 For example, I'm going to hype you up a little bit.
00:43:30.000 So, he'll make multiple six figures a year.
00:43:32.000 He has a great W 2.
00:43:34.000 Not 100K.
00:43:34.000 He makes multiple six figures a year.
00:43:35.000 So, that's why when you ask him, Can he replace his job?
00:43:38.000 It's like his job makes really good money.
00:43:40.000 Okay.
00:43:40.000 So he doesn't.
00:43:42.000 This is extra, basically.
00:43:43.000 This is extra.
00:43:43.000 This is his investments.
00:43:44.000 He doesn't need to necessarily take profit all the time.
00:43:46.000 Even for me, I look at my trades like my investment account, I let it keep growing.
00:43:51.000 Then I sell my software and my consulting to people that also want to make similar money trading.
00:43:58.000 Now, how do, what was your question exactly?
00:44:02.000 Sorry.
00:44:03.000 I mean, so basically, like, let's say.
00:44:06.000 Oh, trade with money you don't have.
00:44:08.000 If I got like $1,000 and I need that money.
00:44:10.000 No, don't trade with that.
00:44:12.000 You should trade with money that you're willing to let sit in trades for a while.
00:44:16.000 The reason I say a while is it could be a day, like today with Tesla.
00:44:20.000 It could be a week with a different trade.
00:44:22.000 It could be two weeks.
00:44:23.000 It could be four weeks.
00:44:24.000 It could be three months.
00:44:25.000 This is your investments.
00:44:26.000 Okay.
00:44:26.000 Okay.
00:44:27.000 This is how you create.
00:44:29.000 Potentially, if you start with 25k, 150 to 250k a year in cash flow, because the problem I see here, especially with the markets, is that like inflation is coming at a rapid rate.
00:44:39.000 So, putting in a bank, you lose money, putting it in real estate, you got to maintain that, spend more money.
00:44:45.000 So, I'm looking at things I can put into put money into that makes money without headaches.
00:44:50.000 And I would say trading is definitely going to be one for me, uh, crypto as well, certain certain coins.
00:44:54.000 But sure, the headache of real estate is, dude, it's it's it's a lot.
00:44:59.000 Real estate for us, bro, with people with real money is not for cash flow, it's for taxes.
00:45:03.000 Yeah, it's taxes.
00:45:04.000 So I'm getting into real estate this year and next year.
00:45:06.000 I have two plays I'm doing, but they're basically going to help me not pay as much taxes in a legal way.
00:45:11.000 Cars, too, by the way.
00:45:12.000 Starting cars.
00:45:13.000 Oh, right off with the rolls and stuff.
00:45:14.000 Like G Wagon.
00:45:15.000 Yeah, G Wagon and stuff.
00:45:16.000 Yeah, with the weight.
00:45:17.000 Yeah, 100%.
00:45:17.000 So, yeah, I would look at trading like you're growing your investment account because most other things either take too much work to make the money you want.
00:45:30.000 And if you have a busy job, it's just going to be hard for you to like, Also, have an Airbnb business or also flip houses, but like Sahil has a job and he trades, like, you can do it.
00:45:42.000 What's the biggest mistake you see beginners make in trading?
00:45:44.000 Biggest mistake you were a beginner, go.
00:45:48.000 I would say just, I would just say not understanding exactly how to enter trades.
00:45:54.000 So sometimes, you know, they might put out a signal and then you're entering at the wrong time.
00:46:00.000 Like you have to pay attention to like what time they put it, what the price is, what contract you're getting.
00:46:06.000 So those are like small mistakes that a lot of beginners make.
00:46:09.000 What's the schedule like?
00:46:10.000 Wake up at 8 a.m. or?
00:46:12.000 Today we traded from what?
00:46:14.000 We were pre market, 8 50 Eastern in Miami, and we were done by 10 38.
00:46:20.000 Yeah, I think it was 10 38, exactly.
00:46:22.000 Usually, we're done in like two, three hours.
00:46:24.000 Yeah, like so.
00:46:24.000 You say, tell me, I wake up, I trade for two hours, and then I'm done.
00:46:28.000 Yeah, most of the time, yes.
00:46:30.000 Sometimes that we will see something coming towards market closing and we'll want to enter, but most of the time, it's like two, three hour sessions.
00:46:36.000 Yeah, even for you though, bro, for somebody that's out late, just go auto because it connects it to mine.
00:46:41.000 Let me, like, it's my account.
00:46:42.000 You're trading with me, like, literally with me.
00:46:44.000 Like, the AI, the problem with the other auto traders, no one knows if anybody's skin is in the game.
00:46:50.000 So, I met a couple people.
00:46:52.000 This past year, right?
00:46:55.000 And they have connections kind of like you, where they have someone that is very well versed in trading.
00:47:01.000 And they'll say, Listen, put like 20K in this, 100K in this, and automatically it just 10X's.
00:47:11.000 Now, if I could have somebody like that in my pocket, like Cam here, do that with his account, and I can see his account like that, that's powerful because I can trust that you're going to make money for yourself.
00:47:22.000 Example, i.e., Me as well.
00:47:24.000 That's pretty good.
00:47:25.000 100%.
00:47:25.000 And he tells you when to sell.
00:47:27.000 Yeah.
00:47:28.000 So, this is the big thing.
00:47:29.000 Talk about your crypto experience.
00:47:30.000 You don't need to say names, but talk about with crypto how you share it.
00:47:34.000 I'm not going to prime you.
00:47:35.000 Go ahead.
00:47:35.000 Yeah.
00:47:36.000 So, I got into crypto last year in January.
00:47:38.000 So, I kind of came in at the tail end of the cycle, but things were already high.
00:47:43.000 So, the things I was buying, like coins, Bitcoin and Ethereum were too expensive for me.
00:47:48.000 So, I was buying altcoins.
00:47:50.000 And yeah, they were already kind of high.
00:47:53.000 Yeah.
00:47:54.000 Then we had the tariff dip in April.
00:47:56.000 Everything kind of came crashing down, and I was just putting every single dollar dollar cost averaging right just because you know, oh, they had you know, they could these guys are telling me, like, hey, this coin's in a 5x, 10x.
00:48:09.000 So, in my head, I'm chasing a big bag, right?
00:48:14.000 Like, I want to be a millionaire bag, right?
00:48:16.000 Yeah, just like every other crypto trader that wants to do it.
00:48:20.000 And then October came, the top was in, we didn't really have an alt season, everything came crashing, and I'm not.
00:48:26.000 Not only did I lose my profit, I was up like 30K at one point.
00:48:29.000 Wow.
00:48:30.000 I lost the 30K and the 70K of investment that I made. 0.99
00:48:34.000 Damn. 0.98
00:48:35.000 So, but here's the thing they didn't tell me when to sell. 0.99
00:48:38.000 So, this is the big lesson is that, bro, it's not that crypto doesn't work.
00:48:43.000 It's not that there's not rich crypto traders.
00:48:46.000 It's not that there's not profitable, successful crypto traders.
00:48:48.000 It's that they didn't tell him when to sell.
00:48:51.000 The system doesn't make sense.
00:48:52.000 Yeah.
00:48:53.000 Okay.
00:48:53.000 So, we tell you when we, this is another thing that makes even our mentorship SEC compliant.
00:48:58.000 We are telling you when we are buying and selling, when we are taking profits.
00:49:03.000 Because with options, it's not just as simple as buy now, sell now.
00:49:07.000 It's adding two positions, selling one position.
00:49:11.000 We're selling certain things and buying certain things within the same trade amounts, I should say.
00:49:15.000 So, we're telling you when we're doing that so you can follow along.
00:49:20.000 Okay.
00:49:20.000 I'll give you an example of like how this differs from stocks, too.
00:49:23.000 That's, I think, very important to understand.
00:49:24.000 If you put $10,000 into Tesla in 2018 and waited till today, you would have made $150K.
00:49:31.000 It's a lot of money, but you had to wait seven years or 2018 to 2026.
00:49:34.000 Eight years.
00:49:34.000 Eight years.
00:49:35.000 If you did that same thing starting in 2020, you wouldn't have made a lot of money.
00:49:40.000 The reason why is because the big run was from 2018 to 2019 on Tesla.
00:49:43.000 That's when it really blew up.
00:49:44.000 So, The point is, stocks, you have to keep buying and keep buying and keep buying and just tie your money up, tie your money up, tie your money up.
00:49:52.000 And you kind of got to keep holding it.
00:49:54.000 And you need a lot of money for it to make you money.
00:49:57.000 That's the reason why the biggest investment banks and hedge funds in the world, Goldman Sachs, example, Charles Schwab, Merrill Lynch, whoever, they are buying a lot of stock on margin 90% of the time.
00:50:08.000 Meaning they're like, hey, I'm going to buy a bunch of stock, of Tesla stock, for example, with millions.
00:50:12.000 And then if it goes up 5%, I'll make a lot of money.
00:50:15.000 That's good.
00:50:16.000 But you, you, you, maybe you want to put five, 10K here. 0.99
00:50:18.000 5K and Tesla doesn't do shit for you. 0.84
00:50:21.000 So the strategy doesn't work. 0.93
00:50:22.000 Now, what the big banks, Goldman Sachs, et cetera, do 10% of the time, I just told you what they do 90% of the time.
00:50:30.000 What they do 10% of the time is what we do 100% of the time, trading options.
00:50:34.000 Why is that important?
00:50:35.000 Because we're a big fish in a small pond.
00:50:37.000 We're only competing with 10% of the hedge fund's greatness as opposed to the other 90% where we just can't win.
00:50:43.000 We just don't have enough money.
00:50:45.000 Hundreds of thousands of dollars that we have to trade with, even me and my team, it doesn't matter.
00:50:50.000 It's not, we can't compete with 100%.
00:50:51.000 And the big pool is so small, it doesn't matter.
00:50:54.000 We can't move.
00:50:55.000 We can't make enough. 0.78
00:50:56.000 The 5% return doesn't do shit for us.
00:50:58.000 But I'd rather make something than nothing at all.
00:51:00.000 So, yeah.
00:51:01.000 You would, but it's called being efficient.
00:51:03.000 Most people have 5 to 20K that they can put in, right?
00:51:08.000 Most successful people even have 5 to 20 to put in.
00:51:12.000 Even you, you were like, I'll put 10.
00:51:14.000 You're not trying to risk 100 right now.
00:51:15.000 Yeah, no, right now.
00:51:17.000 But let's say, right, I got three options real estate, 401K.
00:51:21.000 And trading.
00:51:22.000 What would you choose and why?
00:51:24.000 Well, obviously, I'm biased, but okay, a 401k means you're tying your money up till you're 59 and a half.
00:51:31.000 Hell no.
00:51:31.000 For potentially a few hundred grand.
00:51:33.000 That's a finesse, bro.
00:51:34.000 And if you need it before that, you pay a penalty.
00:51:36.000 Yeah.
00:51:36.000 And you still pay taxes.
00:51:38.000 Exactly.
00:51:39.000 So, and you still pay taxes.
00:51:40.000 So, think about what a 401k is.
00:51:43.000 Who do you think is rich?
00:51:44.000 The people investing in their 401k or the 401k company that's doing riskier things?
00:51:49.000 There's a reason they can pay you a certain percentage.
00:51:52.000 Because they're getting more. 1.00
00:51:52.000 Because they're making more doing other shit that they can't tell you about because they're smarter and you're stupid for investing. 1.00
00:51:57.000 Okay. 1.00
00:51:57.000 Second thing. 1.00
00:51:58.000 Well said.
00:51:59.000 Second thing.
00:51:59.000 Well said.
00:52:00.000 Yeah.
00:52:00.000 Real estate.
00:52:02.000 Okay.
00:52:02.000 My uncle is really rich off real estate, like eight figures.
00:52:07.000 Why I say that, though, is because he started with real estate brokerage, meaning he sold real estate.
00:52:14.000 Then he got connected with the people buying, leasing his buildings.
00:52:18.000 Who were those people?
00:52:19.000 Startup founders in the Silicon Valley.
00:52:21.000 Then he got the opportunity to invest in companies like Uber.
00:52:23.000 He made six million on Uber.
00:52:25.000 Okay, pre IPO.
00:52:26.000 Why I'm saying that though is because then he took all that bread and invested in real estate investing.
00:52:32.000 So people don't understand, you're not just going to like run it up from real estate investing.
00:52:36.000 I'm for the first time as someone who's probably going to make three conservative, five optimistic, three to five mil this year.
00:52:43.000 Now I'm investing in real estate for tax purposes, not because I want to make 300 bucks a month on a rental property.
00:52:49.000 Yeah, that's look, look, we tell everybody get real estate because tax, obviously, purposes, but cash flow, right?
00:52:55.000 And when you look at it from a cash flow point of view, I can make offer property.
00:52:59.000 500 bucks, but then I got to pay taxes, I got to pay for repairs, I got to pay for incidentals, and whatever I'm making every month and a year is gone because I just spent 10k on a roof, yeah, you know, 5k the plumbing.
00:53:13.000 So it is good to have the property for taxes, yeah, but cash flow is never enough because things always go wrong.
00:53:19.000 Murphy's Law, and as a matter of fact, I would argue headaches, tenants got issues, you so that's why I'm like, you know, I'm bullish on coins, I'm bullish on like trading because at least with that.
00:53:29.000 Less stress.
00:53:30.000 I mean, it's still stressful, by the way, but it's not like, hey, this happens to your apartment at 8 a.m. in the morning.
00:53:35.000 You know what one of my biggest business mentors taught me?
00:53:37.000 He has about 10 mil, 11 mil liquid.
00:53:40.000 Every time I bring him a deal that I'm like, hey, what do you think about this?
00:53:43.000 He's like, I want, one time he told me this, it stuck with me forever.
00:53:47.000 He's like, I like to invest in things with more upside. 0.86
00:53:51.000 Well, fuck yeah, he's worth 10 million liquid, 11 million liquid. 0.57
00:53:56.000 Of course he likes to invest in things with more upside. 0.98
00:53:58.000 It's very hard to get there with something that everyone can do really easily.
00:54:04.000 You know why they say 99% of traders fail? 0.98
00:54:07.000 Because trading is fucking hard. 0.99
00:54:09.000 So, bro. 1.00
00:54:12.000 We don't have a lot of Sahils in our group. 1.00
00:54:14.000 That's why I'm not like, oh, yeah, like anyone can do it. 1.00
00:54:19.000 No, no, no. 1.00
00:54:20.000 You need the time, you need the discipline, and you need to give a shit. 0.99
00:54:22.000 The fact that you came here from your job, which is six figures plus, is like, bro, I can't imagine coming here for a scam, bro. 1.00
00:54:30.000 You don't leave your job, come here for a show just for this. 0.99
00:54:32.000 It'd be dumb. 0.98
00:54:34.000 That's pretty smart. 0.98
00:54:35.000 Yeah, so good.
00:54:36.000 And yeah, like we vlogged this morning, we're going to vlog tomorrow.
00:54:40.000 We're going to show you two days of consistent trades.
00:54:43.000 Of consistent trading days, we might lose tomorrow. 0.97
00:54:46.000 We'll fucking show it anyways. 0.97
00:54:47.000 Mark my words, I'm talking in front of however many people. 0.98
00:54:50.000 We will show a two day vlog.
00:54:52.000 We flew him out to do a two day vlog trading days where we are showing you what's going on.
00:54:57.000 I like the honesty because I just promise you, bro, some guys are so conceited and cocky.
00:55:04.000 They're like, yo, you never looked at a trade with me.
00:55:05.000 Ever looked at a trade?
00:55:06.000 I'm like, bro, please stop it.
00:55:09.000 What do you mean you don't lose a trade?
00:55:11.000 No winning trader doesn't lose trades.
00:55:14.000 It just doesn't make sense.
00:55:15.000 You will lose trades with me, you'll just win more.
00:55:18.000 Like, otherwise, why?
00:55:19.000 This is what people don't get.
00:55:21.000 They ask the question, right?
00:55:21.000 You're going to ask it at some point.
00:55:23.000 Let's just address it.
00:55:24.000 Why do you sell trading software?
00:55:26.000 Why do you teach people how to trade if you are so good at trading?
00:55:30.000 Well, here's why.
00:55:33.000 Why does somebody have different investment vehicles?
00:55:36.000 Why does a hedge fund manage the money of other people?
00:55:38.000 Well, they could just manage their own.
00:55:40.000 Well, if you have more buying power as a hedge fund, you'll make more money.
00:55:43.000 Everybody, it's all together.
00:55:44.000 With us, I look at money in a different way.
00:55:48.000 I say, hey, I have a cash flow business for my bills and my lifestyle, which is selling a system that works that I use, meaning my trades over here.
00:55:56.000 If I was scamming, why would I create a software that connects your trading account to mine where all the responsibility is on me?
00:56:02.000 If that was the case, then I would just do mentorship forever and not solve my client's problem.
00:56:06.000 Some of my clients, since my last show, they said, Cam, we just don't have the time.
00:56:09.000 I'm like, okay, cool.
00:56:10.000 I'm going to solve this.
00:56:11.000 I went and solved it, and now it's solved.
00:56:13.000 So the point is, why would I put all the responsibility on me?
00:56:15.000 Because if I lose for the next year, they're going to be like, I can't say it's their fault.
00:56:19.000 But with mentorship, I can because I know the people don't show up, don't succeed.
00:56:23.000 Yeah.
00:56:23.000 But with software, you don't have to show up.
00:56:25.000 It's automated.
00:56:25.000 Yeah.
00:56:26.000 If I lose your money, I can't blame you for it.
00:56:29.000 I can't blame them.
00:56:31.000 I can't blame anyone.
00:56:31.000 I can only blame myself.
00:56:33.000 So why would I take on that responsibility if I wasn't good?
00:56:36.000 Good point. 1.00
00:56:36.000 Dumb people. 1.00
00:56:37.000 Very good point. 1.00
00:56:38.000 All right.
00:56:39.000 We got any chats here at all, Bill?
00:56:41.000 So, we're going to do after hours coming up actually in 30 minutes.
00:56:47.000 And it's funny because at this point, I am actually going to invest with Cam, myself personally, guys.
00:56:54.000 And because I want to expand my portfolio, I want to make sure I get more out of it because we don't have a lot of time left.
00:57:02.000 Three years max before AI takes full control of most companies and most protocols, which means your job may be not existent tomorrow or next year.
00:57:10.000 You don't know that.
00:57:11.000 For a fact, but it's probably going to be less of a win for you.
00:57:15.000 So I always say, you know what, guys?
00:57:17.000 Find ways to make more money elsewhere.
00:57:19.000 And if you don't know, look into it and then learn from it.
00:57:23.000 Because the fact that you're here, bro, is impressive.
00:57:25.000 Thank you.
00:57:26.000 Because if it wasn't working, bro, I would not come here.
00:57:29.000 JonathanNX8 says, Shout out to my homie, slash co workers to heal.
00:57:34.000 Putting work and grinding, seeing it firsthand, getting only four hours of sleep per day.
00:57:38.000 Let's go.
00:57:38.000 Wow.
00:57:39.000 Happy to see the homies winning. 1.00
00:57:40.000 WFNF, WS to heal. 1.00
00:57:42.000 Shout out to you, bro.
00:57:43.000 Love that.
00:57:44.000 Yeah, you too, bro. 1.00
00:57:45.000 Damn. 1.00
00:57:46.000 He works at night, not so high as on his phone. 0.99
00:57:49.000 Okay, so what's next for you, and where can they find you?
00:57:55.000 Sorry, can you say that again?
00:57:56.000 Yeah, what's next for you, Cam, and then where can they find you?
00:57:59.000 Yeah, so what's next for me?
00:58:00.000 I just want to continue building my skill set, really trying to master this skill.
00:58:05.000 I love it.
00:58:06.000 And you can find me on Instagram at Sahilram2underscores.
00:58:12.000 And you can also contact Cam, you know.
00:58:14.000 How does it feel to use your phone to make money?
00:58:17.000 Because, you know, what's funny, back in the day, I thought it was impossible.
00:58:21.000 I can make money from my phone.
00:58:22.000 And like trading, you can do that.
00:58:24.000 Yeah.
00:58:24.000 So I was gonna, okay, so get it right.
00:58:26.000 I'm in a club in Miami just like a year and a half ago, right?
00:58:29.000 My buddy does like trading.
00:58:30.000 So we're there and he's like, yo, I'm gonna make this trade pay for the table.
00:58:34.000 I'm like, you're not making a trade pay for the table right now.
00:58:37.000 It's like 11 p.m. my life.
00:58:39.000 He trades futures for sure.
00:58:40.000 Bro, he makes his trade.
00:58:42.000 I see profit 6k.
00:58:44.000 I'm like, no way.
00:58:46.000 Is he joining at the same time?
00:58:47.000 The table's only 4k.
00:58:49.000 He pockets 2k.
00:58:51.000 Table's paid for. 1.00
00:58:52.000 I'm like, damn. 1.00
00:58:52.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:58:52.000 That's some G shit. 1.00
00:58:53.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:58:54.000 And that's control and freedom.
00:58:55.000 Yeah.
00:58:56.000 And most people don't have that.
00:58:57.000 No.
00:58:57.000 So, you know what's crazy is that.
00:58:59.000 For me, I'll make a $5,000 win in one day.
00:59:04.000 And I'm like, dude, I just made my paycheck in one day.
00:59:07.000 Wow.
00:59:08.000 And I go to work and I'm like, clocking in hours.
00:59:11.000 Clocking in, putting in hours, which, like, I like my job.
00:59:14.000 Don't get me wrong.
00:59:16.000 I'm grateful for it.
00:59:17.000 But just the thought process to which I never thought would happen is like making that kind of money in one day, let alone in a week.
00:59:25.000 Like, because my paycheck's every two weeks.
00:59:27.000 So it's like, right, an instant perspective.
00:59:29.000 It's your perspective.
00:59:30.000 That is one trade.
00:59:31.000 In what, less than like two minutes?
00:59:34.000 Literally within 15 minutes.
00:59:36.000 Someone's spending 40 hours.
00:59:39.000 Yeah.
00:59:40.000 40 hours.
00:59:41.000 Yeah.
00:59:42.000 So that's why I say the power of options is insane.
00:59:46.000 That's why I believe in it so much.
00:59:48.000 It's because it's life changing.
00:59:49.000 It's a life changer for me.
00:59:51.000 Good stuff, man.
00:59:52.000 Yeah.
00:59:52.000 So, Cam, we're going to find you.
00:59:53.000 What's that?
00:59:54.000 So, Profit with Cam on Instagram.
00:59:54.000 Yeah.
00:59:58.000 So, Profit with KAM.
00:59:59.000 And then we offer a free trial to the Discord guys.
01:00:02.000 So, we don't gatekeep stuff.
01:00:04.000 If you come in, the link will be in the description of the episode.
01:00:07.000 Yeah, down below.
01:00:07.000 What will happen is you'll click, it'll say join Discord.
01:00:10.000 You'll automatically get a permission that allows you to view everything, meaning the trades that we're in right now and also.
01:00:17.000 Trading success, which our clients literally post every day.
01:00:19.000 So you'll be able to see other people making money and you can message them.
01:00:22.000 Like we don't hold back, you can message them, talk to them, whatever.
01:00:25.000 And then my assistant will reach out to you and give you my calendar so we can chat and see where you're at and see how we can like potentially work together if that's what you're into.
01:00:33.000 Either way, it doesn't matter.
01:00:34.000 You get seven days to watch the show.
01:00:37.000 What we found last time is that when we did that, people ended up realizing what was true, including Sahil, including shout out Garrett Richardson if he's watching.
01:00:46.000 Garrett actually.
01:00:47.000 Watch the show longer than you.
01:00:49.000 Garrett joined the trial and watched all the way to the end.
01:00:51.000 He said, Yeah, I'm not ready to pay yet.
01:00:53.000 He's like, He didn't even get on his follow up call.
01:00:53.000 Then he watched.
01:00:55.000 He just messaged me on Discord and said, Kim, I'm ready.
01:00:57.000 Send me the link.
01:00:58.000 Because he knows, right?
01:00:59.000 Anybody who actually comes and shows up realizes we are the truth.
01:01:02.000 So that's why I'm willing to give it away for free for a few days.
01:01:05.000 Come find out.
01:01:06.000 If you find out that the money is there, which you will, but you don't have the time, we have the automation option, which is what you're going to do, right?
01:01:12.000 Because you don't have the time.
01:01:14.000 So we've solved every problem.
01:01:16.000 And to be real, man, I'm going to close with this.
01:01:19.000 We have solved one of the biggest problems in America.
01:01:21.000 Here's what it is Americans are looking for upper class investments, but because they're in the middle class, they don't get access.
01:01:29.000 They don't get access.
01:01:30.000 And you have to be an accredited investor for this.
01:01:32.000 You have to be connected.
01:01:34.000 You think my uncle just walked into Uber's office and said, hey, let me invest in Uber pre IPO? 1.00
01:01:39.000 The fuck? 1.00
01:01:40.000 I'll be honest. 1.00
01:01:41.000 The guys I know at the very top get so much access.
01:01:44.000 They'll be like, yo, go buy this coin, sell by this date.
01:01:47.000 They're up $10 million.
01:01:48.000 And I'm like, they would never get this ever.
01:01:50.000 No, it's unfair.
01:01:51.000 It's unfair.
01:01:52.000 What's the edge you have?
01:01:52.000 That's what I ask you.
01:01:53.000 Because the edge makes you win.
01:01:56.000 What do you really have?
01:01:56.000 Yeah.
01:01:57.000 So you can come and see that the results are here.
01:02:02.000 You'll come and see why, because you'll listen to my team talk and you'll understand what they know.
01:02:06.000 Right?
01:02:07.000 What we've democratized is hedge fund investing for the middle class, meaning why do you have to wait until you're in the upper class to be part of the upper class again and again and again? 0.81
01:02:15.000 No, let's take somebody from the middle class and make them to the upper class.
01:02:19.000 That's what actually matters when it comes to my impact. 0.99
01:02:22.000 I was in the car driving with him and my boy to South Beach, and we were like, Dude, I want to make Seahill rich as fuck. 0.98
01:02:27.000 That's what matters to me at this point in time. 0.99
01:02:28.000 Because it makes it look good as well.
01:02:30.000 I feel good about it, though, bro.
01:02:31.000 It's like, I want to hire him this year because he's going to teach our beginner strategies.
01:02:36.000 Sorry, our strategy to beginners because he was just a beginner, but he put in the work and now he's no longer a beginner.
01:02:41.000 Good stuff, man.
01:02:41.000 It's the reality.
01:02:42.000 Yeah, thank you.
01:02:42.000 All right, guys, this is Money Monday, man.
01:02:44.000 I'm Fresh and Fit.
01:02:44.000 We're back with some girls as well.
01:02:46.000 Myron's covering the war right now, but should be a good show.
01:02:48.000 And see you guys in the middle of it.
01:02:49.000 Peace.
01:02:50.000 We're out of here.
01:02:50.000 Cheers.