Fresh & Fit - Hodge Twins Meet Fresh&Fit!

00:04:50.000 What's up, guys?

00:04:51.000 Welcome to the Freshman Podcast, man.

00:04:53.000 You guys can see the background.

00:04:54.000 It seems familiar, but I got two legends with me here.

00:04:56.000 The Hodge twins.

00:04:57.000 I wish I had a Don DeMarco bun, but this is in my studio.

00:04:59.000 And I'm here with Jake Shields as well.

00:05:00.000 Jake, thank you for coming as well.

00:05:02.000 I need a token white guy, so I'm here for that.

00:05:03.000 Absolutely.

00:05:04.000 The other way around, though.

00:05:04.000 Affirmative action.

00:05:05.000 Exactly.

00:05:09.000 Y'all don't count.

00:05:10.000 You guys are half-breed.

00:05:12.000 And then you got to bring in an air up for good measure.

00:05:15.000 But yeah, dude, I'm happy to be here.

00:05:17.000 Thank you guys so much for letting us use your studio.

00:05:19.000 We just came from IRL, going to the gym and stuff, which I guess that's the first topic.

00:05:24.000 Y'all went to Dragon's Lair, right?

00:05:25.000 Yeah, we're at Dragon's Lair, yeah.

00:05:26.000 It's a nice gym.

00:05:27.000 It's a good gym.

00:05:28.000 Yeah, it sucks though, because the hot girls started coming as we were leaving.

00:05:30.000 I was like, damn it!

00:05:33.000 There's girls bigger and big as these guys are sometimes.

00:05:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:05:36.000 Oh, yeah.

00:05:36.000 I've seen girls pressing with 120 flies.

00:05:39.000 Oh, yeah, dude.

00:05:39.000 I was like, what the hell?

00:05:40.000 Yeah, I can't do that.

00:05:41.000 Yeah, the crazy, you know, the ones with the jaws, if you know what I'm saying, weren't there earlier.

00:05:44.000 But then the real girls started coming.

00:05:46.000 I was like, oh, shit.

00:05:47.000 Don't let those fake girls here.

00:05:47.000 Yeah.

00:05:50.000 Whoop your ass.

00:05:52.000 But, yo, I know who you guys are.

00:05:54.000 Obviously, I'm going to get into that a little bit.

00:05:55.000 But can you guys introduce yourself to the audience real quick for those that might not be aware or have lived under a rock for the past 10 years?

00:06:01.000 Oh, okay.

00:06:02.000 Well, uh...

00:06:04.000 Keith Hogg.

00:06:05.000 Yeah, Kevin.

00:06:06.000 With a Hog switch.

00:06:08.000 But on YouTube for like, damn, 16 years.

00:06:11.000 That's crazy.

00:06:12.000 A lot of people came and went on YouTube.

00:06:14.000 Yeah.

00:06:15.000 So we started off in, uh...

00:06:18.000 Really what got us going on YouTube was the fitness.

00:06:20.000 We had another channel called Horse Twins, but we were still not quite being ourselves.

00:06:24.000 I think when we started the fitness channel, we were trying to be all correct.

00:06:29.000 I was so worried about what people thought about me.

00:06:32.000 I wasn't being myself.

00:06:34.000 One day, we just said, fuck it.

00:06:36.000 Yeah.

00:06:37.000 We just said, I'm going to be our goofy sales the way we are when the camera's not on us.

00:06:41.000 And people fucking love that shit.

00:06:43.000 And that actually fed all our other channels and all the successful fans.

00:06:43.000 Yeah.

00:06:46.000 Just being genuine and being us.

00:06:48.000 People pick up on that, man.

00:06:49.000 If you're not genuine, you will not follow.

00:06:51.000 And I got to ask this.

00:06:51.000 Oh, yeah.

00:06:53.000 How do you, for the people out there, like, how do you guys, how do people distinguish you?

00:06:56.000 What is, like, some...

00:06:57.000 Well, Keith, he looks like a serial killer, so...

00:07:00.000 He just, like, the mean one.

00:07:02.000 Yeah.

00:07:04.000 Like I was at movies in high school, right?

00:07:07.000 The girls would say, hey, can you hook me up with your brother?

00:07:09.000 I was like, bitch, what's wrong with me?

00:07:11.000 I would just like him.

00:07:13.000 Everybody wanted Keefe.

00:07:13.000 Right?

00:07:15.000 And women are attracted to like mean dudes.

00:07:18.000 Yeah.

00:07:19.000 Yeah.

00:07:19.000 Keefe had just looked to him like, I'm going to tear you up.

00:07:21.000 Well, they love Ted Bundy, Richard Ramirez.

00:07:24.000 Yeah, they go to their trials and stuff.

00:07:25.000 Jeffrey Dahmer.

00:07:26.000 Why y'all talking about me like that?

00:07:29.000 He just got a mean decorum about him on video.

00:07:33.000 You're the next friendly one.

00:07:35.000 For real, though, how do y'all distinguish each other?

00:07:39.000 Because, let's be honest, like, when you go to school, you probably got confused all the time.

00:07:39.000 Like, what do you guys tell?

00:07:43.000 So, y'all figured out something that you can tell, because I grew up with, like, some of my best friends in childhood were twins.

00:07:48.000 And they always had, like, this go-to line, like, yo, I have this.

00:07:48.000 Right.

00:07:51.000 That's how you distinguish me from my brother.

00:07:53.000 What would you guys say?

00:07:54.000 I'm a little bit taller.

00:07:56.000 It's like a half inch.

00:07:56.000 Really?

00:07:58.000 So, that's...

00:07:58.000 Okay.

00:07:59.000 Give them something they can use.

00:08:01.000 I already said, you know what I can say?

00:08:02.000 Yeah, we're trying to tell you part.

00:08:03.000 Yeah.

00:08:04.000 He looks mean.

00:08:05.000 I have a more happy look to me.

00:08:07.000 I think my face is...

00:08:08.000 He looks crazy.

00:08:12.000 No, I'm seeing it.

00:08:13.000 I'm seeing it now.

00:08:14.000 Yeah.

00:08:15.000 You can see it, right?

00:08:16.000 I'm fucking like he's going to stab you.

00:08:18.000 No, I got like a thicker...

00:08:19.000 Don't I have like a thicker neck?

00:08:20.000 Yeah, he has a thicker neck.

00:08:21.000 My face is like fatter and his is more slender.

00:08:24.000 Yeah.

00:08:24.000 But if I saw you separate, that's not enough.

00:08:30.000 You guys look a lot.

00:08:31.000 I gotta look really hard though.

00:08:33.000 You guys look a lot.

00:08:33.000 His neck is thicker than mine.

00:08:35.000 But my balls are bigger.

00:08:35.000 Yeah.

00:08:39.000 My head on my cock is thicker too.

00:08:41.000 You guys ever share girls?

00:08:42.000 You know, I would say that that's strange, but you guys probably have seen these things, so I can't even dispute it.

00:08:47.000 Hey man, we've been like really close.

00:08:52.000 We used to jerk off together.

00:08:54.000 We took showers together.

00:08:57.000 What are you talking about?

00:08:58.000 Y'all did the Joe Bida special?

00:08:59.000 I know if I walked in, we'd take a shower and both our dicks was hard.

00:09:03.000 My mom thought we was whole sex.

00:09:06.000 Was he stroking it?

00:09:08.000 Yeah, we was stroking it.

00:09:11.000 But we was like, I'll repeat you in the name of Jesus.

00:09:16.000 But if I was saying, I'll repeat you in the name of Jesus.

00:09:21.000 Who is kids?

00:09:22.000 Like 10, 11?

00:09:23.000 Yeah.

00:09:23.000 Y'all did the Bida special?

00:09:24.000 Y'all did the Bida special?

00:09:26.000 Yeah.

00:09:27.000 You do stupid stuff with you.

00:09:29.000 Oh, man.

00:09:30.000 But growing up, we actually...

00:09:31.000 I had friends...

00:09:32.000 Tell us about your childhood, besides that.

00:09:32.000 Where'd y'all grow up?

00:09:35.000 Oh, my childhood.

00:09:36.000 That was a great intro, by the way.

00:09:37.000 Well, we grew up in Martinsville, Virginia, and we were kind of like loners.

00:09:41.000 Yeah, we just...

00:09:41.000 All we needed was us.

00:09:43.000 You know, all the white kids called us the N-word, and all the black kids couldn't stand us because I was pretty.

00:09:48.000 Ha, ha, [...

00:09:50.000 They thought I was going to take that bitch.

00:09:52.000 For a very long time, there was a lot of hate on any dudes that were light-skinned.

00:09:56.000 And then the fact that, pause, y'all got colored eyes, they're going to hate, man.

00:09:59.000 Oh, dude, they hate on us.

00:10:00.000 Milli Vanilli was hot when we was growing up.

00:10:03.000 And that's what they called us, Milli Vanilli.

00:10:05.000 Did you get more racism from the white side or black side?

00:10:08.000 I think when it comes down to all the hate I've got in my life, even though we grew up in a racist area, all the hate I got was from black folks.

00:10:20.000 Same here, bro.

00:10:21.000 I lived in a white, racist neighborhood.

00:10:23.000 And my dad, we lived on a white side of town.

00:10:25.000 It was a black side of town.

00:10:26.000 My dad said, hey, you can live with them niggas.

00:10:29.000 I'm going away with the clan.

00:10:31.000 At least they're going to show me some kind of respect.

00:10:34.000 Yeah, they're actually like, I mean, I don't know about now, but like Virginia has a lot of clan chapters in the past, at least.

00:10:41.000 For the majority of my life, all the hate I've gotten from black hasn't been white.

00:10:41.000 That's true.

00:10:45.000 Never from whites, right?

00:10:46.000 Yeah, we've been called the N-word.

00:10:47.000 Yeah, but we deserved it when they come.

00:10:50.000 Like, who is driving?

00:10:51.000 Chief almost killed his white woman.

00:10:53.000 Oh, shit.

00:10:54.000 What's where you going, you fucking nigger?

00:10:57.000 I was like, what are you doing?

00:10:59.000 Oh, shit.

00:11:00.000 I forgot.

00:11:01.000 Oh, Ant's live.

00:11:02.000 Ant's live.

00:11:03.000 He didn't use it in negative connotations.

00:11:06.000 He's black.

00:11:07.000 That's what happened.

00:11:08.000 I gave him a pass.

00:11:10.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:11:11.000 Yeah, I'm sorry, man.

00:11:12.000 I forgot where he's live.

00:11:13.000 That's what she called me.

00:11:15.000 They're too used to pre-recording.

00:11:17.000 Oh, we can edit that out later.

00:11:18.000 Yeah.

00:11:34.000 What year was this?

00:11:39.000 Man, we was in California.

00:11:41.000 Yeah.

00:11:41.000 I think it was about what?

00:11:42.000 Maybe.

00:11:44.000 We was on YouTube.

00:11:45.000 Yeah, we was on YouTube about eight years ago.

00:11:48.000 Damn!

00:11:48.000 You were like real adults at that point.

00:11:50.000 Are you still killing bitches or trying to?

00:11:53.000 I'm over here thinking you're a teenager or something.

00:11:55.000 Trying to kill white women.

00:12:00.000 Oh, man.

00:12:01.000 So you guys stuck to yourselves.

00:12:03.000 What was school like being twins?

00:12:05.000 You would have had a lot of fun, but we're so shy with women.

00:12:08.000 Yeah, I was like weird shy.

00:12:11.000 I remember one day...

00:12:11.000 Y'all went to high school what decade?

00:12:14.000 I graduated in 92.

00:12:16.000 Well, he graduated in 92.

00:12:17.000 Late 80s.

00:12:18.000 I had to go to 93.

00:12:20.000 You got left back?

00:12:21.000 He got left for a year.

00:12:23.000 So he's a smarter and meaner one.

00:12:24.000 I feel like an old man in high school had a bitch.

00:12:29.000 Yo, I know they were cooking you though.

00:12:30.000 Like, hey, where's the smart brother and the dumb brother?

00:12:32.000 Is that what they said?

00:12:33.000 They didn't know all the people, they didn't know I had a twin.

00:12:38.000 Damn.

00:12:39.000 Okay, so you guys were in high school in the late 80s and the 90s.

00:12:44.000 Yo, take me back, because, like, you know, I was born in 90, so, like, I didn't get to experience the 90s.

00:12:48.000 Yeah, I know.

00:12:49.000 You niggas old, man.

00:12:50.000 We didn't have no cell phones.

00:12:52.000 Nope.

00:12:52.000 Nothing.

00:12:53.000 I remember going to school.

00:12:54.000 My sister put in a cassette.

00:12:57.000 We're listening to Jodeci.

00:12:58.000 I'm close to you guys, AJ. But the 90s were great.

00:13:02.000 Soul Train just came out.

00:13:04.000 Soul Train was big.

00:13:05.000 Damn.

00:13:06.000 Soul Train was still big.

00:13:08.000 And all the black guys wanted to get with a white girl.

00:13:10.000 It was good times.

00:13:11.000 Dallas was a hit show.

00:13:14.000 That wasn't that damn old.

00:13:16.000 No, they killed JR growing up.

00:13:19.000 Well, we was in middle school when they killed JR. I'm just saying.

00:13:22.000 They don't know what the hell you're talking about.

00:13:27.000 They're about to be 50, by the way, this year, guys, right?

00:13:30.000 This year?

00:13:30.000 They don't know nothing about kit and all that shit we grew up in.

00:13:33.000 I grew up looking at night riders.

00:13:35.000 Oh, wow.

00:13:36.000 You guys are older than me.

00:13:37.000 David Hasselhoff?

00:13:38.000 David Hasselhoff.

00:13:38.000 Let's go.

00:13:39.000 Yeah.

00:13:40.000 Damn.

00:13:41.000 Yeah, we're pretty old, man.

00:13:42.000 Well, are you guys Knight Riders yourselves?

00:13:44.000 You guys like the black ladies?

00:13:45.000 I like all women, but I just can't...

00:13:48.000 I'm attracted to all women.

00:13:50.000 Yeah.

00:13:51.000 Don't lie, bro.

00:13:52.000 Come on, man.

00:13:52.000 No, I am.

00:13:53.000 But black women, they come with an attitude that's like a turnoff for me.

00:13:58.000 Not all of them, but it's a whole lot of them.

00:14:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:00.000 Yeah, I find black women very attractive.

00:14:02.000 It's just that attitude they got.

00:14:03.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:04.000 And it sucks because it's not the majority.

00:14:06.000 It's just that they're the loud...

00:14:08.000 No, I think they're the majority.

00:14:09.000 You think they're the majority?

00:14:11.000 There's a lot of them.

00:14:12.000 There's a lot of them, man.

00:14:13.000 There's a lot.

00:14:14.000 It's almost like...

00:14:16.000 I say 50-50.

00:14:18.000 It's almost like it's their DNA. 50-50, 40-60?

00:14:20.000 What do y'all think?

00:14:23.000 I gave up.

00:14:24.000 I got with that first black one.

00:14:26.000 I was married.

00:14:27.000 I was like, you know what?

00:14:29.000 No, I ain't doing this again.

00:14:30.000 That bitch used to beat his ass every day.

00:14:33.000 Wait.

00:14:33.000 Okay, so I know you guys are married now.

00:14:36.000 We'll talk about that.

00:14:40.000 Look at that story, Keith.

00:14:42.000 Keith had better male syndrome.

00:14:44.000 He didn't have better wife.

00:14:45.000 He didn't have better husband.

00:14:48.000 What's that story you told me?

00:14:49.000 Y'all went to the DMV? Look, okay, let me tell you this story.

00:14:53.000 She used to hit me a lot when I was like 19.

00:14:56.000 Okay.

00:14:57.000 And he was in the Marine Corps.

00:14:58.000 I was in the Marine Corps and I was back...

00:15:00.000 How long did y'all serve in the Marine Corps real quick?

00:15:02.000 Just four years.

00:15:02.000 94, 98.

00:15:03.000 But at the time, like, she used to hit me a lot, right?

00:15:07.000 We was in the DMV. And it was this cute girl helping us.

00:15:11.000 I don't know if I was smiling or something.

00:15:14.000 What was her skin color?

00:15:15.000 She was light-skinned.

00:15:16.000 Green eyes.

00:15:18.000 My nuts was getting tight.

00:15:20.000 Just look at her, right?

00:15:22.000 And I remember...

00:15:24.000 What the fuck is wrong with y'all niggas, man?

00:15:27.000 My nuts got tight.

00:15:28.000 My wife did like this, right?

00:15:31.000 That's it.

00:15:35.000 It was a reflex.

00:15:36.000 It was like a reflex.

00:15:38.000 And she gave me a look like, no, you ain't my type.

00:15:48.000 I walked out and said, damn, man.

00:15:52.000 That shit was the most embarrassing shit in my life.

00:15:55.000 I never went to that DMV ever again.

00:15:58.000 You drove an hour to the next one?

00:15:59.000 Yeah, I wouldn't be able to go back.

00:16:04.000 Did she beat you when you got home?

00:16:08.000 Did she beat you when you got home?

00:16:09.000 She was slapping me in the car and shit.

00:16:12.000 And for whatever reason, I wouldn't hit her back.

00:16:16.000 That was good.

00:16:17.000 Was it before or after OJ? No, this is during.

00:16:20.000 No, this is right after OJ. Yeah.

00:16:22.000 You got away with it?

00:16:23.000 Yeah, well, come on, man.

00:16:24.000 You got away with it.

00:16:25.000 That happened when I was in boot camp, so it was after OJ. Yeah, my first wife was black, too.

00:16:31.000 Didn't work out.

00:16:33.000 Why not?

00:16:34.000 And I promised myself I'd never do that again.

00:16:38.000 So I started dating white women.

00:16:40.000 And I attributed to her skin color.

00:16:42.000 It was like a cultural thing I did not like about black women.

00:16:46.000 How long were you guys married at this point?

00:16:49.000 Before y'all divorced?

00:16:51.000 Uh...

00:16:54.000 What was the question again?

00:16:56.000 We just activated trauma.

00:16:59.000 Just like this over and over.

00:17:04.000 We activated the trauma.

00:17:07.000 What I was saying is how long were you married to her total?

00:17:12.000 About three or four years.

00:17:13.000 Three or four years?

00:17:14.000 Yeah.

00:17:15.000 What about your first wife?

00:17:18.000 Mine went on long.

00:17:19.000 She didn't want to sign the divorce papers.

00:17:21.000 We wanted more child support.

00:17:23.000 I remember Keith.

00:17:24.000 I used to come out and say, man, Keith, you can wake up and you have a steak knife.

00:17:28.000 Because every day she was beating his ass.

00:17:30.000 I was going to work with Strackers.

00:17:33.000 I worked in a mess on the Marine Corps.

00:17:35.000 I went to see my friend.

00:17:36.000 He worked in the bakery.

00:17:37.000 I worked in the stockroom.

00:17:40.000 I would go to my bakery.

00:17:42.000 His name was Dorian.

00:17:44.000 We called him Sappho.

00:17:44.000 Everybody was by that last name.

00:17:46.000 He said, yeah, what's up, Harge?

00:17:48.000 I can see your big steel beating your ass.

00:17:54.000 And then the turns come over.

00:17:55.000 Hey, what's up, boy?

00:17:56.000 Look at Link Keep's face.

00:17:58.000 He's got scratches and shit.

00:17:59.000 He's like, man, when you go hit that bitch?

00:18:05.000 I can't hit no woman.

00:18:06.000 When that bitch hit you?

00:18:08.000 When the fuck you hit that bitch back?

00:18:10.000 Do you ever call the police on her?

00:18:13.000 Funny story.

00:18:15.000 Let's go through it.

00:18:16.000 I'm asking the right questions.

00:18:17.000 Please.

00:18:18.000 The cops was always at our house.

00:18:22.000 He was Nicole Brown, too.

00:18:25.000 Right?

00:18:26.000 And I remember this black cop said, look, you're in the Marine Corps.

00:18:30.000 If she calls us one day and says you hit her, you're going to jail.

00:18:35.000 He told me that.

00:18:37.000 Virginia's mandatory arrest date, right?

00:18:39.000 No, this was San Diego, California.

00:18:40.000 Oh, San Diego.

00:18:42.000 And he told me that.

00:18:43.000 But the cops was always coming to our arrest because they could hear her screaming.

00:18:47.000 They're fighting and throwing shit at me.

00:18:48.000 So other people will call 911, not you guys.

00:18:50.000 So one day, I don't know how it started, we got into an argument.

00:18:53.000 She said, fuck it, I'm calling the cops.

00:18:55.000 You're going to jail, nigga.

00:18:57.000 Right?

00:18:58.000 After beating your ass.

00:19:00.000 That's why we don't date black women.

00:19:03.000 So she starts screaming, help, help!

00:19:05.000 Somebody call the cops!

00:19:07.000 I'm calling the cops!

00:19:08.000 I'm calling the cops!

00:19:09.000 So the cops come.

00:19:11.000 And she told the cops, I punched her, and I've been beating on her.

00:19:14.000 So the cop came and said, I told you, man.

00:19:16.000 I fucking told you to move out.

00:19:18.000 This is like I knew you?

00:19:19.000 The same time.

00:19:20.000 She said, I told you.

00:19:21.000 Look, I told you.

00:19:22.000 You should have got out of here.

00:19:23.000 You ain't trying to hear me.

00:19:25.000 I said, look.

00:19:26.000 Go look at her.

00:19:26.000 Yo.

00:19:28.000 She ain't got a scratcher.

00:19:29.000 I said, look at me.

00:19:31.000 Look at my arms.

00:19:33.000 I had all these defenses.

00:19:34.000 I said, man, I'm just holding up, trying to keep off.

00:19:36.000 Right?

00:19:37.000 I said, look at my face.

00:19:39.000 He's all right.

00:19:41.000 Let me go ahead and keep this investigation going.

00:19:44.000 So they go outside and they're talking to her.

00:19:46.000 And then they talk to her and then he's got a white cop with him.

00:19:50.000 And then they're talking.

00:19:51.000 I'm just sitting in the window.

00:19:52.000 So he's a black dude, this guy?

00:19:52.000 Yes, a black dude.

00:19:53.000 So I'm just sitting in the window looking down at home.

00:19:57.000 The police lights on and it's like everything's flashing in the neighborhood.

00:20:00.000 People's outside.

00:20:01.000 What the fuck's going on?

00:20:02.000 And I'm just sitting up in the window looking crazy.

00:20:07.000 And then the black cop, he looked at me.

00:20:10.000 He's like, Yes!

00:20:13.000 So they go up there and say, get your hands off me!

00:20:15.000 Get your hands off me!

00:20:16.000 They put her in the car and take her to jail.

00:20:19.000 Yeah.

00:20:19.000 Oh, wow.

00:20:20.000 You got lucky.

00:20:20.000 I got lucky.

00:20:21.000 But yeah, whenever I've had girls hit me, I've just stopped talking to them.

00:20:24.000 Because I know me being a fighter, I'm going to get blamed.

00:20:26.000 My ass is going to jail.

00:20:27.000 It's over.

00:20:28.000 Yeah, it's over.

00:20:28.000 Me, I'm leaving her.

00:20:29.000 Yeah.

00:20:30.000 Because, you know, they'll hit you and then I'm the one that's going to get blamed.

00:20:32.000 Yeah, but I was 19.

00:20:35.000 I was naive.

00:20:35.000 I didn't know what to do.

00:20:36.000 Yeah.

00:20:37.000 And you were what, 19 you said?

00:20:38.000 19 years old when this was going on.

00:20:38.000 20 years old at this point?

00:20:40.000 Damn.

00:20:40.000 And then were you in San Diego as well at the same time?

00:20:43.000 I was in Tucson, California.

00:20:43.000 Were y'all together?

00:20:44.000 About two and a half hours away.

00:20:45.000 You guys were separate, huh?

00:20:46.000 I was on an old airway.

00:20:49.000 MCS, Tucson, California.

00:20:50.000 Was that tough separating when you guys had been so, so close?

00:20:52.000 Yeah, it was tough.

00:20:53.000 So every weekend I would go up and check on him, see if he was still alive.

00:20:57.000 If I didn't kill him, don't kill him.

00:20:58.000 Every weekend I would go up and say, man, you look like you've been fighting a damn mountain lion.

00:21:03.000 I said, man, when you leave...

00:21:04.000 So you just always have scratches on you, pretty much.

00:21:07.000 Right here.

00:21:07.000 Yeah, man, yeah.

00:21:08.000 Always right here because she's trying to scratch out his green eyes.

00:21:14.000 She probably was like, man, these bitches keep looking at you.

00:21:16.000 This is over.

00:21:18.000 Looking back, she was crazy.

00:21:20.000 You think?

00:21:21.000 She was probably thinking ahead.

00:21:23.000 If I could just take these green eyes out of your head, maybe women will stop looking at you.

00:21:27.000 What were the majority of fights?

00:21:29.000 Did she think you were cheating?

00:21:31.000 What would the arguments typically be about?

00:21:35.000 Man, she's just a crazy bitch.

00:21:38.000 We was just arguing about stupid stuff.

00:21:40.000 Shit.

00:21:41.000 And then with your wife, obviously it looked like she didn't want to sign the divorce paperwork.

00:21:45.000 She never hit me, but his wife and my wife at the time, they're real good friends.

00:21:49.000 That's how we met them.

00:21:50.000 We met them together.

00:21:51.000 Yeah, we should have never turned around that day.

00:21:54.000 Take us through that.

00:21:55.000 Yeah, we just drove down to San Diego, right?

00:21:57.000 I had a brand new Geo tractor.

00:21:59.000 No, I didn't have that.

00:22:00.000 You had that Camaro.

00:22:02.000 She ever had a green Camaro.

00:22:04.000 Okay.

00:22:05.000 That bitch is clean.

00:22:07.000 So this is what, like 1990, 1991?

00:22:09.000 Like 92.

00:22:10.000 That was like 94.

00:22:13.000 Yeah, whatever.

00:22:15.000 We in San Diego looking for some bitches.

00:22:18.000 Right?

00:22:19.000 Fair enough.

00:22:20.000 Women.

00:22:21.000 And Kevin said, look, look at them two black bitches over there.

00:22:25.000 You remember that shit?

00:22:26.000 Turn around.

00:22:28.000 So it's your fault.

00:22:29.000 I turned around and said, man, these look like some prostitutes.

00:22:33.000 Out here walking.

00:22:34.000 But we started talking to them.

00:22:36.000 And I was like, and they got in the car.

00:22:40.000 Ended up marrying them.

00:22:43.000 Did y'all smash them that night?

00:22:45.000 No.

00:22:46.000 No?

00:22:47.000 You guys are gentlemen.

00:22:48.000 My girl, I was crying.

00:22:50.000 My ex-wife was a virgin.

00:22:51.000 Really?

00:22:52.000 She was a virgin.

00:22:54.000 Damn.

00:22:56.000 What do you think led to her?

00:22:57.000 Was she crazy?

00:22:59.000 She didn't hit you, so why'd y'all end it?

00:23:02.000 I think we just got married too young.

00:23:03.000 I got pregnant.

00:23:04.000 First night I ever had sex with her.

00:23:06.000 When I took her vagina, she was pregnant.

00:23:09.000 You probably hadn't had a chance.

00:23:11.000 This dude was like, oh!

00:23:12.000 Oh, yeah!

00:23:14.000 Oh!

00:23:17.000 Oh, man.

00:23:19.000 Oh, man.

00:23:20.000 Yeah, a lot of us.

00:23:21.000 Wait a minute, I ain't done.

00:23:23.000 Got one more pump.

00:23:25.000 At least you're both versions.

00:23:28.000 Oh, let it marinate.

00:23:29.000 Let it marinate.

00:23:30.000 What is wrong with you?

00:23:31.000 Let me go and pull out.

00:23:33.000 Ah!

00:23:34.000 That's what you did.

00:23:36.000 What the hell were you thinking?

00:23:37.000 I don't know what I was thinking.

00:23:39.000 I was young.

00:23:41.000 When I was looking at Keith's relationship, because he got married before I did.

00:23:46.000 I was just dating a girl.

00:23:48.000 Back then, when you get married in the military, you get extra money.

00:23:53.000 It's very common for guys to get me.

00:23:55.000 For the girl to get benefits and stuff like that.

00:23:57.000 She can live on base and all this other stuff.

00:23:59.000 A lot of people did that.

00:24:01.000 You know what?

00:24:02.000 My wife never hit me, but one time, because she's real good friends with his wife, and she says, hey man, your brother needs to stop it.

00:24:10.000 She'll stop hitting me if he defends himself.

00:24:12.000 But I said, man, but we don't believe in hitting women.

00:24:15.000 So one day me and my wife got an argument, and I just bought my little, my daughter a toy.

00:24:20.000 It was like a dog.

00:24:21.000 It was like a lawnmower.

00:24:23.000 You would pull it or push it.

00:24:25.000 It would go, woof!

00:24:27.000 It's a lawnmower, right?

00:24:29.000 And my little girl was playing with it.

00:24:31.000 I remember we got in a fight.

00:24:32.000 She took the top of it off.

00:24:34.000 It was like plastic.

00:24:35.000 Yeah.

00:24:35.000 And I said something.

00:24:36.000 I think I called her a bitch or something.

00:24:38.000 And I was walking away.

00:24:39.000 She took that thing off and hit me in the back.

00:24:41.000 I felt like a slave.

00:24:43.000 It was so bad.

00:24:45.000 I was like froze like this in about five minutes.

00:24:47.000 I couldn't move.

00:24:49.000 Did you just say Kunta after?

00:24:50.000 I wanted to.

00:24:51.000 I was going to say 10 days.

00:24:54.000 Right?

00:24:54.000 And I picked up, I said, if you ever hit me again, I'll shit the shit out of it.

00:24:57.000 I won't hit it again.

00:24:58.000 I'll shake the shit out of one.

00:24:59.000 Oh, man.

00:25:00.000 We just spent about 20 minutes talking about domestic violence and laughing about it.

00:25:03.000 That's hilarious.

00:25:04.000 Did you imagine if it was all the way around?

00:25:05.000 It's funny if it's not us.

00:25:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:25:07.000 It wasn't the woman.

00:25:09.000 I feel crazy hearing that, man.

00:25:12.000 We got to...

00:25:13.000 You guys got some PTSD and they didn't come in the military.

00:25:17.000 That's a cultural difference between black, white, and Latino.

00:25:22.000 The women I've dated in my life, the only woman that just put them up, let's do this shit, has been a black woman.

00:25:29.000 White woman's ever dated?

00:25:30.000 Latino is just totally different.

00:25:32.000 The Asian woman might do a weird grand stance.

00:25:36.000 I've been hit by an Asian woman before.

00:25:37.000 You have?

00:25:38.000 Oh shit.

00:25:39.000 They stupid.

00:25:39.000 But I probably deserved it.

00:25:42.000 So you guys are married now, right?

00:25:44.000 How long have y'all been with your current wives?

00:25:46.000 I've been married for 24 years.

00:25:48.000 Damn!

00:25:49.000 Wait a minute.

00:25:50.000 No, it's 24 years.

00:25:53.000 What about you?

00:25:54.000 24, 25 something.

00:25:56.000 Both of y'all wives are Asian, right?

00:25:58.000 Latino.

00:25:59.000 People think my wife is Asian, but she's Latino.

00:26:02.000 My wife's from Mexico City.

00:26:04.000 Mine's from Jalisco.

00:26:06.000 Okay, so both Mexican.

00:26:07.000 Mexicans are crazy too, but I haven't dated blacks, so black girls must be a lot more crazy.

00:26:11.000 If you don't think Mexican girls are crazy, blacks must be really bad.

00:26:14.000 You know what I find about other races of women?

00:26:17.000 Like when you argue with a black woman, they don't have sex.

00:26:20.000 Oh, damn.

00:26:21.000 Well, this is the anecdote.

00:26:23.000 This is the truth.

00:26:24.000 All my black friends told me this shit.

00:26:26.000 Every time they hold that shit over you like a cookie.

00:26:28.000 Like when I get white girlfriends, Latino girlfriends, when you fight, you have the best sex you've ever had.

00:26:28.000 Yeah.

00:26:34.000 They want to have sex when they're fighting.

00:26:35.000 Yeah.

00:26:35.000 It's weird.

00:26:36.000 But a black woman, they want to have sex with.

00:26:38.000 I know dudes who's been in relationships with black women.

00:26:38.000 Yeah.

00:26:41.000 They're not having...

00:26:42.000 They're going through a rough patch.

00:26:43.000 They have...

00:26:44.000 He's sleeping downstairs.

00:26:45.000 He's not even having sex.

00:26:47.000 And I've noticed that about...

00:26:48.000 That's what turned me off about a black woman, too.

00:26:50.000 They'll fight with you and then not even give you a blowjob after.

00:26:53.000 Fist fight and everything.

00:26:56.000 So, take me through the Marine Corps.

00:26:58.000 What was that like for you guys?

00:26:59.000 It fucking sucked.

00:27:01.000 Well, we tried to, like, all our friends we grew up with, Y'all went to Ellis Island, right?

00:27:07.000 We come from a small place, right?

00:27:09.000 So all our friends, like our black friends, they were going to jail.

00:27:12.000 And I was like, man, I gotta get the hell out of here.

00:27:14.000 I gotta do something productive with my life.

00:27:16.000 And I have an older brother who's in the Army.

00:27:18.000 So I said, let's go.

00:27:20.000 He actually retired Army.

00:27:21.000 Does he look like y'all at all?

00:27:22.000 Yeah, he looks just like us.

00:27:24.000 All of us look like our dad.

00:27:25.000 And we decided to go into the Marine Corps.

00:27:28.000 It was a great experience.

00:27:31.000 But it wasn't for me because growing up we didn't have a father.

00:27:35.000 You guys were there in the early 90s.

00:27:38.000 They couldn't touch you though.

00:27:40.000 What do you mean they couldn't hit you?

00:27:41.000 They couldn't hit you, yeah.

00:27:42.000 They used to be able to.

00:27:43.000 I've seen them do it.

00:27:45.000 Now they can't even yell at them, I don't think.

00:27:48.000 Yeah, yeah, it's getting there.

00:27:49.000 They can't call them like the, like, oh, I can't say these things on YouTube, but they can't, like, any of these slurs, they can't yell at them.

00:27:54.000 And you can say, hey, you're going a little too hard.

00:27:57.000 Like, if they try to PT you too much, you can, like, say, and then they stop.

00:28:00.000 I have a military.

00:28:01.000 At least in the Air Force.

00:28:02.000 Or Navy, sorry.

00:28:05.000 That's crazy.

00:28:06.000 If you would mess up, they would put a deck you.

00:28:09.000 Oh, wow.

00:28:21.000 Did NCIS take that or did they even bother?

00:28:25.000 I saw generals there and it was a big investigation.

00:28:27.000 Shit.

00:28:28.000 Did y'all ever get in trouble with NCIS while y'all were in or anything like that?

00:28:30.000 Not that much trouble.

00:28:31.000 I got page 11s and stuff like that.

00:28:33.000 Stupid shit.

00:28:34.000 Okay.

00:28:35.000 Page 11 is like a write-up, right?

00:28:36.000 Yeah.

00:28:36.000 It's like a write-up from your media superior.

00:28:39.000 So you guys were there in the early 90s.

00:28:42.000 When did Saddam invade Kuwait?

00:28:44.000 uh y'all didn't deal with desert storm right no no okay yeah there was conflict we was on uh alert but we never deployed there okay yeah because that was always the grunts and yeah yeah we was like more support i worked in missile Yeah.

00:29:00.000 That was your MOS? You were a chef?

00:29:02.000 I wasn't a chef.

00:29:03.000 I was in the warehouse.

00:29:04.000 I would get the chefs the food to cook.

00:29:06.000 We're not doing much.

00:29:07.000 I keep the inventory.

00:29:08.000 Okay.

00:29:09.000 You made sure the chicken wasn't getting stolen.

00:29:10.000 Yeah.

00:29:11.000 I was keeping track of all the chicken, all the mashed potatoes and cans of all that.

00:29:14.000 What was your MOS? I was a truck driver.

00:29:16.000 Oh, shit.

00:29:17.000 You know what's crazy?

00:29:18.000 So you got your CDL through the military?

00:29:20.000 No, I couldn't stand them big-ass trucks.

00:29:23.000 I got, like, I'm scared of heights, so when I get in that truck, I get, like, caustic.

00:29:29.000 Yeah.

00:29:29.000 So they just had me driving the Humvees.

00:29:32.000 Oh, shit.

00:29:32.000 I didn't want to drive those trucks.

00:29:33.000 I hated those trucks.

00:29:34.000 Those trucks were so...

00:29:35.000 You couldn't rely on the brakes.

00:29:38.000 Like the semi-trucks?

00:29:39.000 Yeah.

00:29:40.000 Oh, I wouldn't want to drive those.

00:29:41.000 Yeah.

00:29:41.000 I hated it because when me and Keith joined...

00:29:44.000 Originally, it was going to be MPs, but they had lied to us.

00:29:47.000 They lied to us.

00:29:48.000 So when we went in, we was actually...

00:29:50.000 They lied to get people in.

00:29:52.000 Yeah.

00:29:53.000 I wanted to be an MP. I wanted to be a police officer.

00:29:55.000 That's the reason why I entered, yeah.

00:29:56.000 Yeah, but everything was a lie.

00:29:58.000 Wow.

00:29:59.000 What did you guys do after the military?

00:30:01.000 Any real jobs or just start YouTubing?

00:30:02.000 Before I got in the military, when I got some leave, I went back to that recruiting station.

00:30:05.000 I was going to find them damn recruit guys, but they had closed up the office and it was moving.

00:30:10.000 Yep, that's right.

00:30:12.000 Do you guys have an issue with the recruit guys?

00:30:14.000 Yeah, because he lied to us.

00:30:16.000 He lied to us.

00:30:18.000 Supposed to be military police.

00:30:21.000 But I worked in a mess hall and he was a truck driver.

00:30:23.000 So you never got what you wanted the whole time?

00:30:26.000 I think if they would have gave me what I promised, I probably would have made it crazy.

00:30:29.000 You would have stayed longer, right?

00:30:31.000 But I had a lot of resentment because everything...

00:30:33.000 But can't you switch your MOS when you're in?

00:30:34.000 Like, or is it very difficult to do?

00:30:36.000 No.

00:30:36.000 They tell you that, but you can't.

00:30:38.000 They can't tell you that.

00:30:39.000 Because they invest all this time and money in you to do that one job.

00:30:43.000 And then there's not that many.

00:30:45.000 Yeah, right.

00:30:45.000 The reason why they call the few, the proud, the Marines.

00:30:47.000 I still, you know, that's why.

00:30:49.000 Damn.

00:30:50.000 It was a great experience, though.

00:30:51.000 And y'all are the first ones in, last ones out, if I'm not mistaken, right?

00:30:54.000 Something like that.

00:30:54.000 Supposed to be, yeah, something like that.

00:30:56.000 It's been so long.

00:30:57.000 But we just cooks and freaking truck drivers.

00:31:00.000 It's boring as hell.

00:31:02.000 Yeah.

00:31:02.000 I mean, we just out training, right?

00:31:04.000 Because once a year, you got to pretend like you're actual Marines.

00:31:06.000 Yeah.

00:31:07.000 Yeah.

00:31:07.000 Freaking complete catastrophe.

00:31:09.000 We had these machines that we play war games.

00:31:12.000 Yeah.

00:31:13.000 And so if you get shot, it'll beat.

00:31:15.000 Okay.

00:31:16.000 That's how you know you're dead.

00:31:17.000 So we're out there playing Marines and getting actual training.

00:31:20.000 And I mean, it was in the back of this Humvee.

00:31:22.000 And we all had our M16s, had all our equipment on, and we was just pretending to be at war.

00:31:28.000 And then the truck slammed on the brakes because someone was getting ambushed.

00:31:32.000 Oh, shit.

00:31:33.000 Right?

00:31:33.000 People shooting at us.

00:31:35.000 We...

00:31:36.000 Because the truck slammed on the brakes.

00:31:38.000 Everybody did like this in the back of the truck.

00:31:40.000 Oh, shit.

00:31:41.000 And we actually shot each other in the back of the truck when he slammed on the brakes.

00:31:45.000 Oh, man.

00:31:46.000 Everybody's going.

00:31:46.000 Right?

00:31:48.000 So I remember a couple of us made it off.

00:31:50.000 And as soon as we got off, they just lit us up right there.

00:31:53.000 It was just...

00:31:53.000 Yeah.

00:31:54.000 We didn't know what the hell we was doing.

00:31:55.000 Yeah, you weren't trained for.

00:31:56.000 Good thing you didn't go to war.

00:31:57.000 We never really received any real training.

00:31:59.000 We talked about this a few times.

00:32:01.000 I might as well just ask this.

00:32:02.000 What was it like living through the OJ Simpson trial?

00:32:05.000 Oh man.

00:32:05.000 Because you guys are like actually adults and can like...

00:32:07.000 Yeah.

00:32:09.000 I remember it.

00:32:10.000 I was in boot camp when that happened.

00:32:11.000 Everybody stopped what they're doing and he put it on TV. Drill instructs, everybody.

00:32:15.000 We sat down and they said, I said, what happened?

00:32:16.000 They said, OJ's running from the cops.

00:32:18.000 I said, what do you do?

00:32:19.000 He said, man, he killed his wife.

00:32:20.000 I said, what?

00:32:21.000 Yeah, I remember my drill instructor.

00:32:23.000 He was a senior drill instructor.

00:32:25.000 He came out and said, yeah, that black piece of shit killed his wife.

00:32:28.000 I remember that.

00:32:29.000 Yeah, he said that.

00:32:30.000 Really?

00:32:31.000 Yeah.

00:32:31.000 He was a white dude?

00:32:32.000 He was a white dude.

00:32:33.000 I think his name was, he was Staff Sergeant Belinda.

00:32:36.000 Yeah.

00:32:37.000 Did you celebrate when OJ got off?

00:32:39.000 When I saw that when he got off, I said, damn, that is crazy how black people celebrate in the streets.

00:32:46.000 It was crazy.

00:32:46.000 Black people were celebrating.

00:32:47.000 It was weird.

00:32:48.000 Yeah.

00:32:48.000 It went crazy.

00:32:50.000 But then the family came back and sued him, and they got their money back, I'll tell you that.

00:32:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:32:55.000 Fucked with his book.

00:32:56.000 Did you see what...

00:32:57.000 Yeah, he was living out in Vegas.

00:32:59.000 Did y'all see what the BET Awards did about three weeks ago?

00:33:02.000 They didn't put him on the RP thing.

00:33:04.000 Yeah, they did, yeah.

00:33:05.000 Just because he got off.

00:33:08.000 Now, if the shoe was on the other foot, if the shoe was on the other foot, you remember that guy, what was his name?

00:33:13.000 He got beat by those police officers.

00:33:15.000 Rodney King.

00:33:16.000 What if the...

00:33:18.000 What if white people...

00:33:19.000 Country Music Awards.

00:33:20.000 Country Music Awards brought those police officers on stage and say, I want to thank you for your service.

00:33:24.000 That would have been crazy.

00:33:25.000 That would have been crazy, right?

00:33:26.000 But that's what black people did.

00:33:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:29.000 There would have been rides in the streets.

00:33:31.000 Yeah.

00:33:33.000 They brought these abusive officers on.

00:33:35.000 Stephen A actually called it out, and black people started attacking him.

00:33:39.000 Calling him a monkey?

00:33:40.000 Of course.

00:33:41.000 Yeah, I was like...

00:33:42.000 You can't say none of them, bro.

00:33:43.000 Like, you already know.

00:33:44.000 He's a hero.

00:33:45.000 He killed a white girl and got off.

00:33:46.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:33:47.000 That's how they look at it.

00:33:48.000 That's a weird culture, right?

00:33:50.000 That's a weird culture.

00:33:51.000 He also killed one of them boys, too, and got away with it.

00:33:53.000 Yeah.

00:33:54.000 Did you see that documentary?

00:33:57.000 Which one?

00:33:57.000 On OJ. Which one?

00:33:59.000 There's a couple...

00:34:00.000 The most recent one was the ESPN. Yeah, I did see that.

00:34:03.000 The police was there every day and they did absolutely nothing.

00:34:05.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:07.000 That is crazy.

00:34:08.000 Yeah.

00:34:08.000 Because he was a black man during that time and he got away with it.

00:34:11.000 Yeah.

00:34:12.000 Well, he would get away by giving autographs.

00:34:14.000 Yeah.

00:34:14.000 Like, they would literally, like, they'd show up like, come on, Juice.

00:34:17.000 Yeah.

00:34:17.000 And they'd be like, okay, I'll just sign a couple things.

00:34:19.000 Yeah, he was a huge superstar.

00:34:19.000 Right.

00:34:21.000 And he was likable.

00:34:22.000 He's the kind of guy he wanted to like, so he didn't want to believe it.

00:34:24.000 People did see him as a thug and he treated him totally different.

00:34:26.000 He was a likable, charismatic guy.

00:34:27.000 You can't really deny that.

00:34:28.000 People see him now.

00:34:29.000 Everyone's still trying to take pictures of him.

00:34:30.000 When I see him in Summerland, everyone's like, oh, it's OJ. This guy killed a couple people.

00:34:35.000 It's funny, too, because he always takes pictures of blonde white women.

00:34:38.000 It makes it even funny.

00:34:40.000 They're the first ones to run to him.

00:34:42.000 They go home with him still.

00:34:43.000 It's crazy.

00:34:44.000 Do y'all know who this guy is?

00:34:45.000 I still remember when that verdict came out.

00:34:47.000 I still remember the faces of the black people celebrating, and you see the faces of the white people.

00:34:52.000 And how disappointed he was.

00:34:54.000 I was like, man, this is just bullshit.

00:34:55.000 A black guy can kill me and get off.

00:34:58.000 If he's rich.

00:34:59.000 I'm sure that helped.

00:34:59.000 He's really rich, too.

00:35:01.000 People say they don't see race.

00:35:03.000 Man, race is such a huge thing.

00:35:04.000 So, you guys had a stint in law enforcement.

00:35:07.000 No, I said law enforcement.

00:35:08.000 Laws prevention.

00:35:10.000 Right?

00:35:10.000 I was in law prevention myself.

00:35:11.000 I did Macy's.

00:35:13.000 You guys, can you take us through?

00:35:14.000 Everybody went to Macy's, y'all.

00:35:15.000 Take me through how you guys got into that and what law prevention is.

00:35:20.000 Because a lot of people are like, what the fuck are these dudes talking about?

00:35:22.000 Well, we got to the Marine Corps.

00:35:23.000 We was doing a lot of security work.

00:35:24.000 And I was like, man, then I found out about loss prevention.

00:35:27.000 That sounds cool and exciting.

00:35:29.000 Can't be an MP, so...

00:35:31.000 Right, exactly.

00:35:32.000 Always like law enforcement type work.

00:35:34.000 So that's where you dress like a regular customer and you just walk around and pretend to shop.

00:35:39.000 So we got hired at Ross Dress for Less.

00:35:42.000 That was our first job.

00:35:43.000 Where was this located?

00:35:45.000 This was in Santa Ana, California.

00:35:47.000 Okay.

00:35:47.000 What's the population distribution?

00:35:51.000 It's actually a red area, but it's a majority Latino.

00:35:56.000 Okay.

00:35:57.000 I don't know if it's red.

00:35:58.000 What year is this now?

00:35:58.000 Are we talking like 95-96 now?

00:36:00.000 We're 95-96?

00:36:01.000 This is like...

00:36:03.000 I want to say...

00:36:04.000 Well, it was 94-98 Marine Corps.

00:36:06.000 And then we got out after that.

00:36:07.000 So I would say that's around.

00:36:09.000 Early 2000s?

00:36:10.000 I would say.

00:36:10.000 Okay.

00:36:12.000 I'm old, man.

00:36:14.000 The years just blend together, right?

00:36:16.000 I can only keep track by looking at...

00:36:16.000 Early 2000s.

00:36:17.000 Oh, that fight was that year?

00:36:19.000 Yeah, I can't believe we've been...

00:36:20.000 TRL and TV type shit?

00:36:21.000 Yeah.

00:36:22.000 Early 2000s.

00:36:23.000 Early 2000s.

00:36:24.000 And then what?

00:36:24.000 Okay, so y'all are there.

00:36:26.000 Did such a great job, got promoted to investigator.

00:36:30.000 That's when you investigate internal theft.

00:36:30.000 Okay.

00:36:32.000 Right.

00:36:32.000 Okay.

00:36:33.000 And then from there, we actually went.

00:36:35.000 Oh, so were you guys like on the floor the whole time?

00:36:37.000 Like y'all weren't in the back watching cameras?

00:36:39.000 Yeah, they didn't have cameras.

00:36:41.000 Yeah, it was all floor work.

00:36:42.000 Okay.

00:36:43.000 Now, when we became internal investigators, it was watching employees at that point.

00:36:47.000 We installed cameras.

00:36:48.000 Then after you suspect somebody or you have enough evidence, you sit down and interview them.

00:36:53.000 They say something like 80% of theft is internal.

00:36:57.000 Most of the shortages is actually internal.

00:37:00.000 I remember I had one case.

00:37:02.000 This lady did like $100,000 in refund fraud.

00:37:05.000 Wow.

00:37:07.000 And you bring him in and you interview him and then you just get him to confess?

00:37:11.000 Yeah.

00:37:12.000 And then what do y'all do?

00:37:13.000 Call the cops on them, please.

00:37:14.000 Okay.

00:37:15.000 People usually confess?

00:37:16.000 They'd be like, no.

00:37:17.000 Yeah, sometimes you show them the evidence, they just...

00:37:21.000 You're right there on video doing it.

00:37:23.000 So it's like caught right-handed.

00:37:24.000 But you would always try to see how good of an interview.

00:37:27.000 You wouldn't show them all the evidence.

00:37:28.000 You'd just give them bits and pieces.

00:37:29.000 Of course.

00:37:30.000 And then, like, did you guys, like, when I worked at Macy's, we had 100% prosecution rate.

00:37:34.000 They took it for everything.

00:37:35.000 I remember we sent a dude to jail inside for taking a chocolate bar.

00:37:37.000 Did Ross take everything?

00:37:39.000 Nah, not everything.

00:37:40.000 What was their limit?

00:37:41.000 It had to be, how much was their limit?

00:37:43.000 I think it was over 65 bucks.

00:37:46.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:37:46.000 For...

00:37:47.000 This is the early 2000s.

00:37:49.000 For somebody shoplifting for an employee, I think it was over a grain or something like that.

00:37:54.000 Oh, so they needed more if they were an employee.

00:37:57.000 Wow.

00:37:58.000 That's crazy.

00:37:59.000 You'd think you'd have even less...

00:38:00.000 We knew who the people were.

00:38:02.000 We would just sew them and get it back.

00:38:04.000 Oh, okay.

00:38:05.000 That makes sense.

00:38:06.000 That's how they handled it, Ross.

00:38:07.000 So y'all did that for how long?

00:38:10.000 Man, I was there for about six years, I think.

00:38:13.000 six years all right tell me how and y'all work together well sometimes it was together but how it was set up in Ross is you traveled from store to store you was never in the same store so sometimes we would be working the same store together okay so tell me the craziest story because i can think of a bunch of like you always get into fights with these people all this other like tell me the craziest story y'all had when y'all i remember we caught just one mexican dude a little fat pablo looking dude That dude still,

00:38:39.000 he came in with a trash bag.

00:38:41.000 This dude walked out with like 3,000 customers.

00:38:44.000 Before he walked out, he's got the bag, man.

00:38:46.000 He's going back and forth.

00:38:48.000 I'm like...

00:38:48.000 When they come in with a bag, it's go time.

00:38:50.000 Yeah.

00:38:51.000 But back then it wasn't.

00:38:52.000 Yeah, but the crazy thing, he kept going to the front and wouldn't leave.

00:38:55.000 Kept going to the front.

00:38:56.000 He went to see if somebody was following him.

00:38:58.000 Now I was about to have a heart attack waiting for this dude to leave and he wouldn't leave.

00:39:01.000 Finally, the dude left.

00:39:03.000 We get him outside, handcuff him, bring him inside.

00:39:05.000 So y'all tackled him then at that point, probably.

00:39:07.000 He didn't even fight.

00:39:09.000 It's Buena Park, right?

00:39:10.000 It's Buena Park.

00:39:11.000 So we take him back to the back, right?

00:39:12.000 I said, Keith, I'm going to go get all the tags he ripped off and stuff, right?

00:39:16.000 Evidence.

00:39:17.000 Evidence, right?

00:39:17.000 I'm going to gather evidence.

00:39:19.000 So I'm gathering evidence and tags and all that.

00:39:21.000 I get back.

00:39:22.000 Let me take it from here.

00:39:24.000 So Kevin's gathering evidence, right?

00:39:26.000 And I'm out here getting the port going, calling cops, getting the port going.

00:39:29.000 And then I'm asking the guy for his name and his information.

00:39:33.000 And then I look back and I was talking to him.

00:39:35.000 I look back and I was like...

00:39:37.000 Man, this dude took off running.

00:39:39.000 Right?

00:39:40.000 He's already handcuffed, right?

00:39:41.000 I'm like, so I run out the store.

00:39:43.000 I'm like...

00:39:45.000 Did you handcuff him in the front or in the back?

00:39:47.000 I think he was in the front.

00:39:49.000 No!

00:39:50.000 That's the guy that was double jointed.

00:39:51.000 He slipped out of his handcuffs.

00:39:52.000 Yeah, he's...

00:39:53.000 Let me get to that.

00:39:54.000 So I'm looking.

00:39:55.000 Then I can see him running, right?

00:39:57.000 So I'm booking after him, right?

00:39:58.000 Yeah.

00:39:58.000 I finally catch him.

00:40:00.000 And I catch him.

00:40:00.000 Yeah.

00:40:01.000 I put him on the ground.

00:40:02.000 And I was pissed because this is a big stat.

00:40:05.000 Boss gonna kiss my ass and everything.

00:40:07.000 I was pissed.

00:40:08.000 He making me run, right?

00:40:10.000 So I get the cuffs back on him.

00:40:12.000 And I say, you want to run?

00:40:13.000 Let's run back to the store.

00:40:17.000 So I'm dragging this dude all the way back to the store.

00:40:20.000 We get back to the store.

00:40:22.000 Everyone's looking at y'all and shit.

00:40:24.000 Everybody's looking crazy.

00:40:25.000 Kevin comes out the store.

00:40:26.000 What happened?

00:40:26.000 Man, what happened?

00:40:27.000 Oh, this motherfucker running?

00:40:30.000 Get your ass back in the stove.

00:40:32.000 I ain't going to tell him the other stuff.

00:40:35.000 Hey, y'all can say this is 20 years ago, bro.

00:40:38.000 Kevin is a police officer.

00:40:40.000 Kevin is a white supremacist police officer.

00:40:43.000 That's all I'm going to say.

00:40:45.000 Oh, there were some jokes made, I see.

00:40:47.000 George Floyd and Roy.

00:40:48.000 Hey, you know what?

00:40:50.000 We can switch the rubber rule if you want to say what you said.

00:40:52.000 Well, it's statute of limitations.

00:40:54.000 All right.

00:40:54.000 We good.

00:40:55.000 I ain't taking no chance.

00:40:56.000 Nah.

00:40:56.000 Okay.

00:40:57.000 All right.

00:40:58.000 Well, I guess we'll say it possibly didn't really happen.

00:41:00.000 I remember she said that.

00:41:02.000 It never happened.

00:41:02.000 Oh, you want to run, motherfucker?

00:41:03.000 Let's run back to the store.

00:41:06.000 It's just for the audience to know, like, most of the time when you do loss prevention, like, the security office is almost always in the back.

00:41:10.000 So you got to drag them through the store to bring them back there and process them.

00:41:13.000 So in my head, I'm envisioning this as, like, funny-ass shit.

00:41:16.000 Yeah.

00:41:16.000 If you guys seen like San Francisco and stuff now, they can't even stop the guys.

00:41:19.000 They're loading in bags.

00:41:20.000 Like 950 I think is like the limit.

00:41:21.000 So they're just like right there stealing almost a thousand.

00:41:23.000 Even if they go above that, they don't really prosecute you.

00:41:25.000 You know what's crazy?

00:41:27.000 When we would arrest them, the cops, they would leave with them in the back of the car, but they would just pull around the corner and write them a ticket and let them go.

00:41:35.000 Because they would come right back in the store like maybe a month later doing the same thing.

00:41:39.000 You know what's crazy back in the middle?

00:41:40.000 I remember we was at that same store.

00:41:41.000 I ain't going to tell them the city.

00:41:43.000 It was in that vicinity.

00:41:44.000 I remember we was chasing a guy, shoplifter.

00:41:47.000 This white dude with a mullet and his picture truck.

00:41:50.000 He told me he'd keep running out.

00:41:52.000 It's always the white guy.

00:41:54.000 Black guy chasing a white guy with a mullet.

00:41:56.000 He's got a mullet.

00:41:57.000 He's like, what did he do?

00:41:59.000 I said, he stole something.

00:42:00.000 He said, I'm going to get him.

00:42:02.000 He took off, hit the dude with his truck.

00:42:04.000 Oh, shit.

00:42:04.000 Yeah.

00:42:05.000 Yeah.

00:42:05.000 Because we're running with these...

00:42:07.000 We had like a necklace and a bag on it.

00:42:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:10.000 He hit the dude with his truck.

00:42:12.000 That's hilarious.

00:42:12.000 Yeah.

00:42:13.000 So a dude hit the mullet guy with a truck.

00:42:15.000 No, he hit the shoplifter.

00:42:17.000 Oh, the guy with the mullet?

00:42:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:19.000 He saw the shoplifter and he just hit him.

00:42:21.000 He knew...

00:42:21.000 He just hit him.

00:42:22.000 Well, he didn't hit him.

00:42:23.000 He pulled out in front of him and he ran into the truck.

00:42:26.000 That's funny.

00:42:27.000 That's funny.

00:42:28.000 He ran into the truck.

00:42:29.000 When you told him, hey, you stole, what was his response?

00:42:31.000 Yeah.

00:42:31.000 I got him.

00:42:33.000 Do you have a Southern accent too?

00:42:34.000 I got him!

00:42:35.000 Yeah, he looks like he's from the South.

00:42:36.000 Yeah.

00:42:38.000 Now, the best part, was the guy you were chasing, was he white or black?

00:42:41.000 He was white?

00:42:42.000 Most of the people arrested was Latinos.

00:42:44.000 Okay.

00:42:44.000 Yeah.

00:42:44.000 Because that's 80% of the population.

00:42:46.000 You know what's crazy?

00:42:48.000 Yeah.

00:42:48.000 We live in a majority, it was Latino, but white.

00:42:51.000 Real white, red area.

00:42:53.000 But as soon as you've seen a black person walk in the store, I would say 99% of the time, they stole something.

00:42:57.000 Yeah.

00:42:59.000 We're good to go.

00:43:00.000 We're good to go.

00:43:01.000 We're good to go.

00:43:03.000 We're good to go.

00:43:20.000 So did y'all deal with that too?

00:43:21.000 Where it was like way more women?

00:43:23.000 White girls?

00:43:24.000 Oh my god.

00:43:25.000 Somebody you would never suspect.

00:43:27.000 They were so good at it.

00:43:29.000 What would they steal from us when I was working at Macy's?

00:43:31.000 They always stole jewelry.

00:43:32.000 Like the fucking jewelry.

00:43:34.000 But yeah, earrings, that bullshit like that.

00:43:36.000 For you guys, same thing?

00:43:37.000 And they would be hot.

00:43:39.000 It's like, well, if you want to get off, they'll let you go.

00:43:42.000 I remember I brought this one white girl.

00:43:44.000 She was smoking.

00:43:45.000 This girl was beautiful, right?

00:43:47.000 She didn't have no underwear on.

00:43:48.000 I had a handcuff down the thine.

00:43:50.000 She put both her legs up and spread her legs.

00:43:52.000 She could see everything.

00:43:55.000 Really?

00:43:56.000 Did you let her off?

00:43:59.000 When did I do that, girl?

00:44:01.000 You just called her mom because she's underage.

00:44:06.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:44:07.000 She was in the 80s.

00:44:08.000 There goes shit.

00:44:10.000 So I called Corbin.

00:44:11.000 He was like, you 16?

00:44:18.000 Ryan, I feel like I call Corp, I say I had a girl in here.

00:44:21.000 It's all on video because everything that went digital.

00:44:23.000 Everything from the moment you walk into it to the moment you walk into it.

00:44:26.000 Everything is important.

00:44:27.000 I got an unaged girl.

00:44:28.000 You can see everything on that video.

00:44:29.000 What do you want me to do with it?

00:44:31.000 It's called appearances.

00:44:32.000 Yeah, I'm talking about that video because that's, you know.

00:44:35.000 Yeah, because it was recorded.

00:44:37.000 You see me in the video, I'm like, yes, I'm doing a report.

00:44:39.000 I'm like, oh shit.

00:44:43.000 Remember the rest of that transgender?

00:44:46.000 Y'all got a Transformer?

00:44:48.000 In the early 2000s?

00:44:49.000 How'd that happen?

00:44:51.000 Yeah, fair enough.

00:44:54.000 No, we arrested her because she's transgender.

00:44:58.000 That's a good reason.

00:44:59.000 But she propositioned us.

00:45:04.000 She kept licking her lips.

00:45:06.000 I'll do anything.

00:45:07.000 Well, in this case, it was she to...

00:45:10.000 It was a...

00:45:12.000 Yeah, I know what you mean.

00:45:15.000 The other way around, yeah.

00:45:17.000 Oh, man.

00:45:18.000 Yeah, you deal with some crazy shit with loss prevention, bro.

00:45:20.000 Really strange people, drug addicts, shit like that.

00:45:22.000 They're stealing a boost, you know?

00:45:24.000 I had a gun put on me one time.

00:45:26.000 I was going to ask what was the most dangerous one.

00:45:28.000 I had a knife put on me.

00:45:29.000 And, of course, the one time in the time I did that job to pull the gun was a black guy.

00:45:34.000 Shocking.

00:45:35.000 What did he steal?

00:45:37.000 That he was willing to shoot you for?

00:45:38.000 Grab and runs.

00:45:39.000 They were just coming to the store and just grabbing stuff.

00:45:41.000 There was a grab and run on that one?

00:45:42.000 It's either grab and runs or there was a quick change at the cashier.

00:45:42.000 Yeah.

00:45:45.000 Oh, I didn't give you a 20.

00:45:47.000 I gave you a hundred.

00:45:48.000 Yeah, you owe me $80.

00:45:49.000 Get it?

00:45:50.000 Yeah.

00:45:51.000 That's the only time I ever had a gun put on me.

00:45:52.000 Yeah.

00:45:53.000 Damn, I forgot what he said.

00:45:57.000 What did he say?

00:45:58.000 He was so smooth when he said it.

00:46:01.000 Don't lose your life over this.

00:46:02.000 He said, come on, brother.

00:46:03.000 Don't do this.

00:46:10.000 I mean, he was so smooth when he did.

00:46:15.000 He was calm as hell?

00:46:16.000 He was calm as hell, brother don't do this.

00:46:19.000 He got the gun with the brother don't do this.

00:46:20.000 He would have shot you too, I bet.

00:46:22.000 Yeah, that's funny.

00:46:26.000 So early 2000s, you guys did that for how long?

00:46:30.000 Like five, six years?

00:46:31.000 Yeah, then we went from that, we went to...

00:46:33.000 Did we go to private investigations after that?

00:46:36.000 Yeah, I became a private investigator.

00:46:37.000 Yeah, it was a private investigator.

00:46:38.000 How'd y'all like that?

00:46:39.000 That was cool.

00:46:39.000 That was fun.

00:46:40.000 Oh man, you following these people for like workers comp claims and they go to the doctor with a damn cane.

00:46:46.000 Oh, were y'all doing it for like insurance companies?

00:46:48.000 Yeah.

00:46:49.000 It was a private company, but insurance companies would contract us with it.

00:46:53.000 You see all this crazy stuff.

00:46:54.000 People lying about how they can't walk.

00:46:56.000 They go to the doctor, they're limping.

00:46:57.000 And then when they get home, they're running up the steps.

00:47:00.000 You see people cheating on their wives.

00:47:03.000 The only downside to that is when you got a case in like Watts or Compton.

00:47:07.000 I got chased out of Compton.

00:47:09.000 They chased me out of Compton.

00:47:10.000 And Watts?

00:47:11.000 Because they didn't recognize the car, right?

00:47:13.000 Plus, I don't seem like I'm from that area.

00:47:13.000 Yeah.

00:47:16.000 The way I talk and the way I look.

00:47:17.000 Like, hey, where are you from?

00:47:18.000 Yeah.

00:47:19.000 So I remember I had this case in Watts.

00:47:20.000 I pulled up like two hours earlier because I didn't want nobody to see me pull up, right?

00:47:26.000 I turned all the lights off before I got to the house.

00:47:28.000 Yeah, you tried to get shot.

00:47:29.000 I turned all the lights and just creeped up, right?

00:47:32.000 Oh, man.

00:47:32.000 And you know, at night, you can hear everything, right?

00:47:36.000 Them damn brakes are squeaking like crazy.

00:47:38.000 As soon as I stopped the car, man, all the lights came out of the house, everybody outside like this.

00:47:42.000 All you seen was eyes and teeth.

00:47:44.000 Yeah.

00:47:44.000 Shit.

00:47:45.000 Because everybody's dirty.

00:47:46.000 Everybody's dirty.

00:47:47.000 Everybody's dirty.

00:47:47.000 Everybody, like, in that area, man, when you walk in, when you're in that area, everybody's looking over their shoulders.

00:47:53.000 Like, everybody's paranoid.

00:47:54.000 Yep.

00:47:55.000 Because they did something to somebody.

00:47:55.000 They need people getting shot all the time.

00:47:57.000 Yeah.

00:47:58.000 So, you guys did that for a while.

00:48:02.000 So you guys did basically for insurance companies.

00:48:04.000 Did you guys ever do like for private citizens?

00:48:07.000 No, it's all insurance.

00:48:07.000 Private investigations?

00:48:08.000 I think we might have had a couple.

00:48:10.000 Because I was going to ask, for private citizens, what is it?

00:48:12.000 Mostly infidelity investigations?

00:48:14.000 When it's a private person, it's always infidelity.

00:48:14.000 Infidelity.

00:48:16.000 Yeah, like I'm going to hire you to follow my girl around or my husband around.

00:48:19.000 They just want dirt so they get custody kids and then get child support.

00:48:22.000 Oh, so they knew that they're cheating.

00:48:23.000 They just needed the fucking proof.

00:48:24.000 Yeah.

00:48:25.000 Who would hire you guys more for that?

00:48:27.000 Was it the man or the woman?

00:48:29.000 I think more often than not, it was a woman.

00:48:33.000 You never get it from the guy.

00:48:35.000 I would come across that while I'm doing for the insurance companies.

00:48:38.000 This guy was cheating on his wife with her sister.

00:48:43.000 I was like, oh my god.

00:48:45.000 Did you disclose that to the insurance company too?

00:48:47.000 No.

00:48:48.000 I asked my boss and I'll just leave all that out.

00:48:51.000 Okay.

00:48:51.000 They just wanted to see that they were actually not injured and shit.

00:48:54.000 You know, isn't it crazy?

00:48:55.000 Like, I've always said to myself, like, insurance is the one business where they're trying to not deliver their service.

00:49:01.000 Yeah.

00:49:01.000 Right.

00:49:01.000 It's like they're actually successful for not delivering their service.

00:49:04.000 And they, like, hire people like you guys and these actuaries, all these people to, like, make sure they don't pay up.

00:49:09.000 Right.

00:49:10.000 It's like the one business where they're trying to not do what they're supposed to do.

00:49:14.000 And then on top of that, the lawyer gets 33% of your case.

00:49:18.000 Because I had a workers' comp claim on myself.

00:49:20.000 But I was seriously injured.

00:49:23.000 Was this with Ross?

00:49:24.000 Yeah, I got fucked up by these damn essays.

00:49:28.000 Take me through that one.

00:49:30.000 They beat me with some damn tire irons.

00:49:33.000 Oh, this is dislocated.

00:49:35.000 So tell me, how'd that even come about?

00:49:38.000 I was with this one guy, I'm gonna just call him T, black dude, big ass dude, like to talk shit to people.

00:49:43.000 I was out there pretty much backing him up.

00:49:46.000 I'm out there backing him up and he's talking so much shit, you think he can throw down and fight?

00:49:50.000 Nope, he's the biggest pussy in the world and damn near got me killed.

00:49:53.000 Yeah, he took off running, didn't he?

00:49:55.000 Well, he tried to run.

00:49:56.000 They caught his ass.

00:49:58.000 And they caught me.

00:49:59.000 And then I actually ended up leaving at Rawson.

00:50:03.000 That's when I became a prime investigator.

00:50:05.000 So, they stole.

00:50:06.000 You guys chased him outside.

00:50:08.000 Did y'all, like, grab him or anything?

00:50:09.000 Or he just, like, talk a shit?

00:50:10.000 No, they whooped my black ass.

00:50:11.000 That's what they did.

00:50:12.000 I was in the hospital.

00:50:14.000 When y'all tried to stop him, they just beat you guys up.

00:50:16.000 We went out to stop him.

00:50:18.000 And, like, five, six dudes jumped out with crowbars.

00:50:20.000 It's like they baited us.

00:50:21.000 Oh.

00:50:22.000 Because that guy, he knew who he was.

00:50:24.000 I came into contact with him several times, too.

00:50:26.000 But I didn't actually see him take anything.

00:50:26.000 Okay.

00:50:28.000 He said, hey, man, they got something.

00:50:30.000 It was just...

00:50:30.000 So one dude stole, ran out, and then there was like...

00:50:33.000 I don't think they actually stole anything.

00:50:34.000 I think that one guy that was an agent for the store, I think he got me in trouble.

00:50:38.000 You think they wanted to beat him up or you?

00:50:40.000 Oh, they wanted to beat both asses.

00:50:42.000 Yeah.

00:50:43.000 Shit.

00:50:44.000 Okay.

00:50:45.000 So, after...

00:50:47.000 We're going through you guys' whole life.

00:50:48.000 And then, after that, what'd you guys do?

00:50:51.000 After the private investigation stuff?

00:50:53.000 We went to Southern...

00:50:54.000 AAA of Southern California with insurance adjusters.

00:50:57.000 For, like, auto claims.

00:50:57.000 Yeah.

00:50:58.000 So, when you filed an auto accident, they would call us.

00:51:02.000 Oh, shit.

00:51:03.000 His job was crazy.

00:51:04.000 And we started that job right now.

00:51:06.000 I think he must have hated you guys.

00:51:08.000 You guys were the ones like, nope, doesn't qualify.

00:51:12.000 Yeah, they're the ones denying claims.

00:51:13.000 Yeah, they're the ones denying claims, bro.

00:51:14.000 I remember, man, coming in on a Monday when everybody's having accidents over the weekend.

00:51:18.000 Your queue would just fill up with claims and everybody's calling.

00:51:22.000 Your phone is going off the hook.

00:51:23.000 You didn't have time.

00:51:24.000 Well, back then it was beepers probably.

00:51:25.000 No, this is early 2000s.

00:51:26.000 You guys had cell phones.

00:51:27.000 Yeah, we had cell phones.

00:51:28.000 We had the flip phones.

00:51:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:51:29.000 And the Nokias.

00:51:30.000 It was $10,000.

00:51:31.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:51:32.000 Goddamn.

00:51:33.000 But at that job, I came across YouTube.

00:51:35.000 YouTube just started.

00:51:36.000 Yeah.

00:51:37.000 What year are we in now?

00:51:38.000 This is 2006?

00:51:39.000 2007?

00:51:40.000 2007, 2008.

00:51:41.000 Yeah.

00:51:42.000 And I went to Kevin's Cube.

00:51:43.000 I said, hey, Kevin, I got an idea.

00:51:46.000 Let's start a YouTube channel.

00:51:47.000 Did y'all hate that job?

00:51:48.000 Like, what made you like- Oh, I hated that job.

00:51:50.000 What made it crazy?

00:51:51.000 Like, was it like- It was overworked.

00:51:54.000 Underpaid.

00:51:55.000 Sitting at a desk all day.

00:51:56.000 That's like, that's probably the worst job I've ever had.

00:51:58.000 How long did y'all do that for?

00:52:00.000 I did that shit for like four years.

00:52:02.000 Damn.

00:52:03.000 Yeah, but we started doing YouTube videos.

00:52:05.000 It was like a part-time thing.

00:52:07.000 It doesn't make no money.

00:52:08.000 And that actually gets us fired from that job.

00:52:11.000 Take me through that because I know exactly what that feels like.

00:52:14.000 I didn't get fired, but they definitely had that talk with me.

00:52:17.000 It keeps on lunch break, right?

00:52:18.000 We see human resources walking in.

00:52:20.000 And the white guy, he was gay.

00:52:22.000 Everybody knew he was gay.

00:52:23.000 And then he's with his other chick.

00:52:25.000 And we're walking around taking a break outside.

00:52:27.000 And we see them walk in.

00:52:29.000 But before they walked in, they turned around and looked at us.

00:52:32.000 Keith looked at me, hmm, that's funny.

00:52:33.000 Why are they looking at us?

00:52:36.000 Because they didn't work in that building.

00:52:38.000 They was coming from corporate.

00:52:39.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:52:40.000 Why are they here?

00:52:42.000 Whenever you see human resource, somebody's going to get fired.

00:52:45.000 So they're looking at us.

00:52:46.000 I'm like, why is human resource here?

00:52:49.000 Why are they looking at us?

00:52:50.000 So I get to my queue and the manager comes to my desk.

00:52:54.000 Hey, I need to talk to you.

00:52:55.000 I say, uh-oh.

00:52:56.000 What if it's about human resources here?

00:52:58.000 I get in there and there's the bald gay guy and the girl.

00:53:01.000 At this point, like, what's going through your mind?

00:53:03.000 Did you know it was YouTube immediately?

00:53:04.000 No, I didn't know.

00:53:05.000 I said, yep, they're going to try to fire my ass.

00:53:07.000 Because there was overstaffed.

00:53:08.000 And back at that time, we was having an economy crisis.

00:53:12.000 It was 2007, 2008.

00:53:13.000 Oh, this is the housing market crash.

00:53:15.000 Yeah.

00:53:15.000 Was Obama in yet?

00:53:17.000 Or are we talking Bush is still in?

00:53:19.000 I think Obama's in.

00:53:21.000 Okay, so 2008.

00:53:22.000 Yeah, 2008 then.

00:53:24.000 Literally, housing market crash, bad economy, recession.

00:53:28.000 So they're talking to me, right?

00:53:29.000 And they got to talking about YouTube.

00:53:34.000 And I said, yeah, we do YouTube...

00:53:36.000 Yeah, he said, what are y'all filming?

00:53:38.000 I said, we film them downstairs and it's vacant.

00:53:40.000 But they just got rid of all the second floor.

00:53:43.000 There's no signage, no nothing.

00:53:43.000 Nobody's down there.

00:53:44.000 So when our lunch breaks, we would clock out.

00:53:47.000 We would go down and shoot a quick YouTube video.

00:53:50.000 Yeah, talk about something in the news.

00:53:51.000 Yeah, something in the news.

00:53:51.000 What y'all used to record at this point in 2008?

00:53:53.000 Oh, it's our phone.

00:53:54.000 No, I had this...

00:53:55.000 What do you call it?

00:53:58.000 They had the Walmart camera, man.

00:53:59.000 That shit was crazy.

00:53:59.000 Like a camcorder?

00:54:00.000 We had afros.

00:54:01.000 We had the afros.

00:54:03.000 My teeth was...

00:54:03.000 Yeah, my teeth was jacked.

00:54:06.000 I looked like Jaws in there, bitch.

00:54:08.000 It was...

00:54:09.000 I was going to talk to you guys about your teeth.

00:54:11.000 Yeah, your teeth was...

00:54:12.000 I'm going to watch y'all for a minute.

00:54:14.000 So they start talking to me.

00:54:16.000 He says, what are y'all filming?

00:54:17.000 I said, downstairs in a vacant room.

00:54:19.000 He says, well, you know, that's against company pilots.

00:54:21.000 I said, well, I'm on my lunch break.

00:54:23.000 Nobody's down there.

00:54:24.000 Y'all leasing the building.

00:54:25.000 I said, we didn't think it was a problem.

00:54:27.000 We're just doing something on our free time.

00:54:29.000 He said, well, that's not really the problem.

00:54:30.000 The problem is you're cursing the videos.

00:54:32.000 I said, I'm cursing the videos.

00:54:33.000 I said, nobody knows where I work at.

00:54:35.000 There's no signs to know anything.

00:54:37.000 I'm not representing your company.

00:54:38.000 They don't even know I work for you.

00:54:41.000 So what's the issue?

00:54:42.000 They trying to find a way to get rid of the staff.

00:54:45.000 So I lost my cool and I fucking went off on that motherfucker.

00:54:49.000 So I'm fucking cursing and they say, hey, you got to go to your desk.

00:54:53.000 No, I'm not cursing yet.

00:54:54.000 They say, you got to go to your desk and move all your shit.

00:54:56.000 So I'm like boiling because I'm like here every day.

00:54:59.000 I hate this fucking job.

00:55:01.000 I'm doing my job every day.

00:55:03.000 So I get to my desk.

00:55:03.000 Right.

00:55:05.000 I'm like taking my picture out of my dad.

00:55:07.000 I said, nope, not going out like a fucking pussy.

00:55:10.000 I'm going to cuss out all these damn people.

00:55:12.000 So I said, okay, they talking to me.

00:55:14.000 They're going to talk to Keith.

00:55:16.000 So I said, I tried to go.

00:55:17.000 I said, hold up.

00:55:18.000 I ain't going to pack my shit.

00:55:19.000 Let me go talk to my brother.

00:55:20.000 He said, no, you got to leave me right now.

00:55:21.000 I said, I'm going to talk to my brother first, right?

00:55:24.000 He said, I'm going to call the council.

00:55:25.000 Call him, bitch.

00:55:26.000 I'm going to be right over there talking to my brother.

00:55:28.000 So I go to my brother.

00:55:29.000 My brother ain't there.

00:55:30.000 I said, oh, they talking to Keith now.

00:55:32.000 So I start walking all over the third floor, going to the room.

00:55:32.000 Shit.

00:55:36.000 Hey, have you seen my brother?

00:55:37.000 He said, man, that gay dude just grabbed him up.

00:55:40.000 So I'm looking for Keith.

00:55:42.000 I'm going through all the coverage rooms.

00:55:43.000 I can't find Keith, right?

00:55:45.000 So finally, I said, Keith's down there.

00:55:47.000 And the whole time, all the managers followed me.

00:55:50.000 Yeah, I was going to say, you got to leave.

00:55:52.000 It's a big spectacle.

00:55:54.000 Everybody's like, Kevin, I lost his mind.

00:55:56.000 Kevin go and post on this bitch.

00:55:58.000 So I go into the door.

00:56:00.000 I said, Chief, man, I busted the door.

00:56:02.000 JJ was like, oh, what the fuck?

00:56:04.000 I'm like, hey, Chief, man, they talk to you about these damn YouTube videos, man.

00:56:07.000 They just put me, sent me home on leave.

00:56:10.000 They gonna fire your ass over a damn video that nobody knows where the fuck we're at, right?

00:56:15.000 So I will fucking go off on it.

00:56:18.000 And Chief still doesn't, what?

00:56:19.000 Ma and Chief start cussing out all the motherfuckers.

00:56:23.000 So I'm cussed.

00:56:24.000 I'm like, fuck you.

00:56:25.000 I'm calling people the F word.

00:56:26.000 I'm calling people everything.

00:56:28.000 Right?

00:56:29.000 And then I get down.

00:56:30.000 We all wearing ties?

00:56:32.000 We all wearing ties?

00:56:34.000 And at that time, I had an afro.

00:56:40.000 I wish we had a video of this.

00:56:41.000 It was like the stereotypical black guy at the Triple A reference.

00:56:45.000 With your necktie, with your afro.

00:56:48.000 It was crazy, my afro looked like George Jefferson.

00:56:51.000 It was like big as hell on the side.

00:56:54.000 Yeah, if you're in a fire, you might as well run with a band like that.

00:56:56.000 I'll do the same thing.

00:56:56.000 Imagine this in my head.

00:56:58.000 You got all these white people chasing y'all niggas around.

00:57:00.000 You guys got ties like, fuck y'all, man!

00:57:02.000 And I remember everybody was fucking...

00:57:05.000 I remember these older black ladies.

00:57:07.000 We used to always talk to them.

00:57:08.000 They'd been working there for like 20 years.

00:57:09.000 And people said, what happened?

00:57:10.000 What happened?

00:57:11.000 I said, they put me on administrative leave.

00:57:13.000 I said, I'm pretty much fired because I was doing that video.

00:57:15.000 You're definitely fired after that.

00:57:16.000 I wanted to make sure I was fired, actually.

00:57:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:57:18.000 Because we got on unemployment at the time.

00:57:21.000 Well, we got fired, and then we're just like, man, we're on unemployment.

00:57:24.000 Let's see if we can make the YouTube work.

00:57:26.000 So it turned out great.

00:57:26.000 Yeah.

00:57:27.000 So it was like a silver lining, you know?

00:57:29.000 At this point, were you guys doing, like, the type of content when you guys, like, your earlier stuff, were you, like, answering questions?

00:57:29.000 Yeah.

00:57:35.000 It was, like, new stuff.

00:57:37.000 We were just doing, like, real-life stories and stuff.

00:57:39.000 Like, it was very new at it.

00:57:41.000 Yeah.

00:57:41.000 Did you guys do fitness for a while?

00:57:43.000 We haven't even gotten to fitness.

00:57:45.000 We had one YouTube channel.

00:57:46.000 I think we had like maybe 2,500 subscribers.

00:57:50.000 That's a lot back then though.

00:57:51.000 2008, nobody was using YouTube like that.

00:57:53.000 Was it monetized at that point?

00:57:55.000 I was making about 5 cents a month, right?

00:57:58.000 I remember my wife said, y'all got fired over YouTube videos?

00:58:06.000 I said, yeah.

00:58:08.000 She said, what the fuck?

00:58:10.000 Then we said, hey, babe, I got a plan, right?

00:58:13.000 Because Keith's wife was pregnant, right?

00:58:16.000 And I said, babe, don't worry, we got a plan.

00:58:19.000 We become comedians on the internet.

00:58:23.000 Yo, this is 2008 for the audience that's out there.

00:58:26.000 This is unheard of in 2008, bro.

00:58:28.000 Unheard of.

00:58:29.000 You made her laugh.

00:58:31.000 Yeah.

00:58:32.000 So we was already poor as shit, right?

00:58:35.000 Like my wife, I was so poor.

00:58:37.000 My wife looked like she was an illegal immigrant, man.

00:58:40.000 Her hair was fucked up.

00:58:42.000 Nails never done.

00:58:43.000 Looked like she just crossed the border.

00:58:45.000 Yeah, we was broke.

00:58:48.000 Were y'all like living together?

00:58:49.000 No.

00:58:50.000 You guys were close?

00:58:51.000 They couldn't get along.

00:58:52.000 Oh, your wives.

00:58:53.000 Okay.

00:58:53.000 Yeah.

00:58:54.000 So we was doing YouTube videos and then my wife told us over and out, won't y'all stop this dumb YouTube shit and go get a real job?

00:59:03.000 Yeah.

00:59:03.000 Because we was making like five, ten bucks a day.

00:59:05.000 I remember one month, I said, look, man, it's going up.

00:59:05.000 Yeah.

00:59:07.000 We made $400.

00:59:08.000 Look.

00:59:10.000 We're making it, baby.

00:59:12.000 Maybe next year you get your nails done.

00:59:16.000 I had my baby.

00:59:19.000 We was on WIC food stamps.

00:59:21.000 We're fair.

00:59:23.000 Yeah, we was doing real bad, man.

00:59:26.000 But you know what?

00:59:28.000 You guys really are black.

00:59:30.000 Yeah.

00:59:31.000 But we kept at it.

00:59:34.000 We kept at it.

00:59:35.000 And then the money we was making on unemployment, we didn't even have to claim it because it was so minute.

00:59:41.000 It didn't even matter.

00:59:42.000 So the YouTube money.

00:59:43.000 Right when our unemployment was running out, Start getting views.

00:59:48.000 I said, look, we made $1,500 of money.

00:59:51.000 It still wasn't much, but it was like...

00:59:52.000 But it shows growth and you might actually make something, man.

00:59:55.000 And then the unemployment ran out and then the money was going up.

00:59:59.000 I said, damn, this shit finally starting to Are we still in 08 now at this point?

01:00:03.000 Like, once y'all started to catch your groove, like, are you guys still...

01:00:06.000 This is still 2008?

01:00:07.000 This is 2009.

01:00:10.000 Okay.

01:00:10.000 We've been on YouTube for about a year.

01:00:12.000 What got us through that, because I remember we was making money, but it wasn't enough, but we was on welfare and assistance, and we was on that when the unemployment ran out, but then, you know, as we started making money, I said, man, we're making enough money, we can just get off of welfare because we don't need it anymore.

01:00:28.000 Yeah.

01:00:28.000 So, and then we just...

01:00:30.000 From that point on, when we got fired from AAA, I said, you know, let's treat this like a nine-to-five.

01:00:35.000 It took us about three or four or five months that went past before we actually was able...

01:00:42.000 Because, like I said, when in high school, I was very, very shy.

01:00:44.000 So when you cut on the camera, it's like you're talking to millions of people.

01:00:48.000 And it was very awkward for me.

01:00:50.000 So over time, we actually...

01:00:52.000 He helped me with my shyness, and I was able...

01:00:54.000 Mm-hmm.

01:00:55.000 Talk to people.

01:00:56.000 So over time, I got better at that, and then our videos got better, but it really started clicking when we started to become just, just be our genuine self.

01:01:03.000 Yeah, it was fun.

01:01:03.000 We uploaded our first video on YouTube on Christmas Day.

01:01:07.000 Yeah.

01:01:07.000 And they said- 2008.

01:01:09.000 2008.

01:01:10.000 What was that comment?

01:01:11.000 Yeah, what losers upload a video on Christmas Day with no surprise?

01:01:14.000 What else are we doing?

01:01:15.000 I remember...

01:01:16.000 That was like our first comment on YouTube.

01:01:18.000 I remember to this day, man, me and Keith sending out emails to people.

01:01:21.000 Hey, Keith, watch my video.

01:01:23.000 Thank you for the support.

01:01:25.000 Please do that shit.

01:01:26.000 Yeah.

01:01:27.000 And I'll be reading the comments.

01:01:29.000 This video sucks.

01:01:30.000 You guys suck.

01:01:31.000 Go picture G. You guys are losers.

01:01:35.000 For the people that are...

01:01:36.000 Their teeth used to be crooked as fuck, man.

01:01:38.000 Y'all, Jagged Edge, man.

01:01:39.000 Real tight.

01:01:39.000 That's why I used to call y'all niggas.

01:01:40.000 I used to call y'all niggas Jagged Edge when I used to watch y'all.

01:01:43.000 Jagged Edge.

01:01:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:01:45.000 This canine was Jagged Edge.

01:01:48.000 Go watch their old videos.

01:01:49.000 The singing group?

01:01:50.000 Yeah, bro.

01:01:50.000 Yeah, the singing group.

01:01:51.000 Yeah.

01:01:52.000 Guys, go watch their old videos, man.

01:01:53.000 It was bad.

01:01:58.000 Watch their old videos, man.

01:01:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:01:59.000 Did the negative comments that bother you a lot in the beginning?

01:02:02.000 I stopped reading them.

01:02:03.000 Yeah, I stopped reading them.

01:02:04.000 Like now I think it's funny, but when you first started seeing them, you're like, the first time, it's like weird the first time, like people hate me, they don't know me for no reason.

01:02:10.000 Now I think it's funny, but when you first see it, it's hard.

01:02:12.000 Yeah, I remember I got this comment.

01:02:14.000 It was about this long.

01:02:16.000 This dude wrote a comment to me and he said, man, I can't stand you two niggas.

01:02:21.000 He said, that's what he said.

01:02:22.000 He said, I hope y'all get in a fatal car accident.

01:02:25.000 I hope one of y'all was thrown from the car.

01:02:27.000 I hope one of you was trapped and you watched the oven burn to death.

01:02:32.000 Right?

01:02:32.000 And then I hope you have a heart attack after seeing your brother burn to death.

01:02:35.000 That was a comment.

01:02:36.000 That was a comment.

01:02:37.000 That was a meme.

01:02:38.000 This is right back before moderation and censorship.

01:02:41.000 Yeah.

01:02:42.000 Yeah, those comments are crazy!

01:02:44.000 Yeah, I know some people that are famous and they still can't read the comments on themselves.

01:02:47.000 It's hard on some people.

01:02:49.000 Yeah, when you first see that stuff, it's like...

01:02:52.000 And mind you, 2008, you saying that you're going to be an influencer and make money on the internet was an unheard of thing.

01:02:57.000 It was a few people doing it.

01:02:59.000 I think it was on some show like Oprah's show or something.

01:03:03.000 It was talking about how they were making money.

01:03:04.000 It was this white guy.

01:03:05.000 I forget his name.

01:03:06.000 He had like 200,000 subscribers.

01:03:08.000 And he was making $20,000 a month.

01:03:10.000 I was like, man, just give me $3,500 a month.

01:03:12.000 That's how I started off.

01:03:13.000 Just give me $3,000, $4,000 a month.

01:03:15.000 And then when we hit that, and then it kept going, I was like, man, this is crazy.

01:03:21.000 So, when do you guys feel like you really started to hit your stride?

01:03:24.000 What year?

01:03:26.000 When did you guys get that first $3,500 a month?

01:03:30.000 I think it's when we started our fitness channel.

01:03:32.000 What year was this?

01:03:34.000 2011?

01:03:35.000 2011, 2012.

01:03:38.000 And it was twin muscle workout.

01:03:39.000 I remember this vividly because I used to watch you guys.

01:03:41.000 TMW. TMW, man.

01:03:43.000 TMW, yeah.

01:03:44.000 And, you know, I remember watching you guys in college and, you know, funniest shit for me because I can't do deadlifts either because my back is, lower back is fucking fucked.

01:03:52.000 Yeah, we're too tall.

01:03:53.000 Yeah, because we're all the same height.

01:03:54.000 So when you guys used to call them shits, back snaps?

01:03:56.000 Yeah.

01:03:56.000 Bro.

01:03:57.000 You know why we called them back snaps?

01:03:59.000 Because I got a bad back.

01:04:01.000 I got a hurt.

01:04:02.000 Me too.

01:04:02.000 So I was like looking at the ex, I was like, what's the purpose of doing that?

01:04:06.000 Yeah.

01:04:06.000 I mean, if you want arthritis in your back, yeah, keep doing muscle.

01:04:09.000 Like, what purpose if you try to, like, build a muscle?

01:04:11.000 I know it's some functional, you can build some functional strength, but you can do that doing squats.

01:04:17.000 That shit looks so unnatural to me because I guess I'm so tall.

01:04:22.000 Yeah, you got a bad back as well.

01:04:23.000 So this is going to show, like, okay, so I remember this vividly in my head.

01:04:27.000 I'm in college, right?

01:04:28.000 I sit in my dorm.

01:04:29.000 Me and my buddy used to work out.

01:04:30.000 This is, like, 2013, my senior year.

01:04:33.000 I was kind of like you.

01:04:34.000 I had to go to summer school to get my fucking degree.

01:04:37.000 Like you in high school.

01:04:39.000 Right.

01:04:39.000 And I remember this vividly, bro.

01:04:40.000 Y'all are in there lifting weights.

01:04:42.000 And one of y'all was doing a seated barbell shoulder press.

01:04:46.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:04:47.000 And, like, the shit went like this.

01:04:48.000 You went super heavy, like 225 or some shit.

01:04:50.000 Oh, I remember that video.

01:04:52.000 I think I had on the blue hoodie.

01:04:54.000 Yeah, you did.

01:04:55.000 You did.

01:04:56.000 I remember that.

01:04:57.000 And then somebody was going like this and then it like went out of like lane.

01:05:01.000 Yeah.

01:05:02.000 It's like, oh, right there's about to snap his shit up.

01:05:04.000 And you guys, this is what you guys were doing, the voiceovers and shit.

01:05:06.000 Right, right, right.

01:05:07.000 And I thought that was so fucking funny because, you know, it was the first one to do that.

01:05:10.000 Yeah, he was like, oh, he about to snap his shit up.

01:05:12.000 And I was like, yo, this is fucking funny, man.

01:05:14.000 Yeah.

01:05:14.000 I've never seen these old fitness videos.

01:05:16.000 I've never seen those.

01:05:17.000 Oh, man.

01:05:18.000 It's hilarious, bro.

01:05:18.000 They used to voice over their own workouts and shit.

01:05:20.000 Because when you watch your shit back, they're like, damn, that form is atrocious.

01:05:24.000 And then they'd be like, damn, I don't know how I just set my shit up right there.

01:05:27.000 You know what I never noticed before I looked at my old videos, how much I cursed.

01:05:32.000 It's crazy.

01:05:32.000 I remember before my mom passed away, she said, I saw you on that YouTube.

01:05:36.000 You need to stop all that damn cussing.

01:05:38.000 I said, my mom don't cuss that much.

01:05:40.000 I looked at them videos so old.

01:05:42.000 I mean, each one of your outros, man, do whatever the fuck you want to do.

01:05:45.000 Like, yeah, like...

01:05:46.000 It's a bad habit.

01:05:48.000 Yeah, yeah, and then, you know, and then I ain't gonna lie, there was, um, when I watch y'all, I always wear headphones, because y'all niggas be like, you know, like, you're doing that shit like you did earlier.

01:05:57.000 Like, you're like, what are you watching?

01:05:58.000 Niggas think I'm to watch a porn.

01:05:59.000 I'm like, no!

01:06:00.000 Look, it's not, like, look, it's...

01:06:02.000 People told us that, man.

01:06:04.000 That's a, like, gay porn.

01:06:07.000 Because these niggas would have stopped, like...

01:06:09.000 Yeah.

01:06:12.000 I'm like looking around this shit, you know, and the niggas are like, hey, what are you listening?

01:06:15.000 Bro, look, these two niggas are like, oh, okay.

01:06:18.000 You know what's so crazy about that?

01:06:19.000 When we started doing comedy shows?

01:06:20.000 They used to fuck me up in the college dorm, man.

01:06:22.000 Three other dudes, they had jokes for days, man.

01:06:24.000 And they were white too, so you know it wasn't fucking relentless.

01:06:27.000 I remember going, doing our comedy shows, going out in public, you would just be minding your own business, somebody would come up behind you and go, yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

01:06:35.000 That must have been weird.

01:06:36.000 Yeah, yeah, it was weird.

01:06:38.000 Give us the weirdest fan encounter with that.

01:06:42.000 Man, it's just like...

01:06:43.000 You didn't realize how many people...

01:06:46.000 Well, you've seen your subscribers going up, but then when you start going out in public and people recognizing you, I was like, holy shit, this is like...

01:06:53.000 Let me ask this.

01:06:55.000 When did you guys...

01:06:57.000 Like, for me, I remember this in my head.

01:06:59.000 Once we started hitting, once we hit, like, around 100,000 subscribers, that's when people started recognizing me.

01:07:03.000 And I was like, what the fuck is this?

01:07:04.000 Right.

01:07:04.000 Because I came from a law enforcement background, and you don't want nobody to know what you used to do.

01:07:07.000 So for you guys, when did you guys start, like, getting noticed?

01:07:07.000 Right.

01:07:10.000 Like, people coming up to you and saying, yo, can I get a picture of shit?

01:07:13.000 Around 150.

01:07:14.000 Around what year was that?

01:07:16.000 Man, we had 2010.

01:07:18.000 2012, 2013.

01:07:19.000 It's been pretty big for a while.

01:07:20.000 This round, we had, like, 250,000 subscribers on Twitter.

01:07:23.000 We all had a couple channels.

01:07:24.000 You guys had also like the hot swings where you guys would answer questions.

01:07:28.000 Yeah, ask hot swings.

01:07:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:07:30.000 Right?

01:07:30.000 Actually, we started that channel because people say, man, we love your fitness advice.

01:07:33.000 Why don't y'all give us a relationship?

01:07:35.000 Okay, okay.

01:07:36.000 Yeah, because you guys would be in there with the white beaters.

01:07:37.000 You just get the fuck out of the way and all that.

01:07:39.000 Man, you see them white beaters we used to wear?

01:07:41.000 Yeah, Dusty.

01:07:42.000 Look, Jay, right?

01:07:43.000 Yeah, it was a little weird, but it's funny.

01:07:45.000 Yeah, it looked like a blouse.

01:07:47.000 It did look like a tank tank.

01:07:48.000 It looked like a blouse, yeah.

01:07:50.000 So, like, y'all would answer this...

01:07:51.000 Go ahead.

01:07:51.000 Okay.

01:07:52.000 Well, I guess it looks gay.

01:07:53.000 I don't know.

01:07:54.000 It looks like something a guy...

01:07:56.000 Well, fuck it.

01:07:57.000 Well, a gay guy would wear.

01:07:58.000 Yeah.

01:07:59.000 That's what it looked like.

01:08:00.000 So, you guys would be...

01:08:01.000 You guys would be, obviously...

01:08:02.000 Because YouTube Fitness, like, was huge in, like, 2010 on.

01:08:05.000 Yeah.

01:08:06.000 It was huge.

01:08:07.000 And...

01:08:07.000 To me, I think YouTube Fitness died like 2016, 2017.

01:08:11.000 Yeah.

01:08:12.000 At that point.

01:08:12.000 It was like prank channels, right?

01:08:14.000 Because I remember vividly, I was watching you guys.

01:08:17.000 I was watching Matt Ogis.

01:08:18.000 I was watching Chris Jones from POG. Physiques of Greatness now.

01:08:21.000 I think it's Pump Chasers.

01:08:23.000 I was watching Eric Callum's Lane Norton.

01:08:27.000 All the 3DMJ guys.

01:08:29.000 What else?

01:08:31.000 Jeff Side.

01:08:32.000 Right.

01:08:32.000 That's way old.

01:08:33.000 Yeah.

01:08:35.000 Who else am I trying to think?

01:08:35.000 I remember when he was doing the fitness.

01:08:36.000 Z's, obviously.

01:08:37.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:08:37.000 Right?

01:08:38.000 Z's was actually before us.

01:08:40.000 Yeah.

01:08:41.000 Yeah.

01:08:41.000 Down in 2011, but...

01:08:43.000 Right.

01:08:43.000 RIP to him.

01:08:44.000 Actually, his anniversary was like a couple weeks ago when he passed away.

01:08:47.000 Mm-hmm.

01:08:47.000 But yeah, man, like I was watching, you guys were like, those are the people I was watching, man.

01:08:51.000 And fitness YouTube was fucking huge back then.

01:08:53.000 It was like the main genre, man.

01:08:56.000 But like, when do you guys think fitness YouTube died?

01:08:58.000 Because I love asking fitness influencers this.

01:09:00.000 I think it's that whole algorithm like around 2016, YouTube wanted to go away from it because that used to be the shit on YouTube.

01:09:06.000 I think you can only talk about counting your macros and fucking, you know, lifting weights and shit so much, right?

01:09:12.000 Yeah.

01:09:12.000 It gets boring.

01:09:13.000 Yeah.

01:09:14.000 Same thing.

01:09:15.000 Super repetitive.

01:09:15.000 And like everyone else is doing it too.

01:09:17.000 So it's like what I've noticed now, like fitness YouTubers, like the ones that are still around, like they have to do vlogs.

01:09:21.000 Like you have to like vlog and do the fitness shit and kind of just like put it in.

01:09:25.000 Do pranks, videos, stuff off the cuff.

01:09:28.000 Yeah.

01:09:30.000 Oh, Bradley does that shit.

01:09:31.000 Yeah.

01:09:33.000 You can't last so long until you start to...

01:09:35.000 You're going to have to pivot if you start up in fitness.

01:09:38.000 Because a lot of people, when they start up in fitness, when they find you, they're like Googling, hey, how do I get a six pack?

01:09:44.000 And those people, more if not, after six months, they're not even working out anymore.

01:09:48.000 Yeah.

01:09:49.000 A lot of people give up.

01:09:50.000 Yeah.

01:09:51.000 That's the reason why we've been able to last on YouTube so long we've been able to pivot.

01:09:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:09:57.000 When I look at every fitness influencer that's still big on YouTube, you guys, Bradley Martin, all y'all pivoted.

01:10:03.000 Everyone that didn't pivot is either super low on views or not popping anymore or, you know.

01:10:10.000 So it's just a dead genre now.

01:10:12.000 Yeah, because fitness, people are really flaky.

01:10:14.000 Most people just go into fitness and not even doing fitness six months.

01:10:17.000 Yeah, it's a dead genre now.

01:10:18.000 I would say fitness and prank channels are dead genre now.

01:10:22.000 Yeah.

01:10:23.000 Okay, so you guys were doing that for a bit with the fitness stuff.

01:10:27.000 Then you guys had the Ask Hodge twins.

01:10:29.000 What made you guys transition over to the conservative twins?

01:10:34.000 I was a hardcore Democrat.

01:10:35.000 I voted for Obama, voted for Bill Clinton, even voted for Al Gore.

01:10:39.000 Damn, you were a hippie too.

01:10:41.000 Yeah, I was just naive.

01:10:41.000 You believe in climate change?

01:10:43.000 I believe in all that shit.

01:10:44.000 I voted for Al Gore because I thought the damn ocean was going to drown.

01:10:48.000 I thought it was going to be something from the biblical days.

01:10:50.000 I voted for Kerry because he said the other side was racist.

01:10:54.000 We've all done dumb shit, man.

01:10:56.000 It's like, bro, if you're colored in America, at some point, you're going to vote Democrat until you wake up.

01:11:02.000 It's like the default vote for you.

01:11:06.000 Right, right, yeah.

01:11:07.000 It's like a cultural thing.

01:11:08.000 It's a cultural thing, 100%.

01:11:09.000 And I remember, like, you know, if you ain't vote for, like, the Democrats, like, and people in the hood, because here's the thing about Black people, I've noticed.

01:11:15.000 Black people share who they're going to vote for.

01:11:17.000 You know what I mean?

01:11:17.000 They, they, who you vote for?

01:11:19.000 Oh, it better be Obama, right?

01:11:20.000 Like, white people, who you vote for?

01:11:22.000 That's private information.

01:11:23.000 You know what I mean?

01:11:24.000 But I was fucking my wife yesterday.

01:11:26.000 He'll go into that.

01:11:27.000 But, like, white people will not tell you who they're fucking voting for, bro.

01:11:30.000 So, like, with black people, it's, like, out there.

01:11:32.000 But, like, so it's, like, almost always Democrat.

01:11:35.000 Can they shame you if you don't?

01:11:36.000 But, like, when did you guys...

01:11:38.000 Number one, what made you guys get into politics?

01:11:40.000 And then what made you guys shift from the Democratic Party over to the GOP? The Trump phenomenon is what opened up my eyes.

01:11:46.000 So 2016, y'all became Republicans?

01:11:48.000 Yeah, I think I've always been.

01:11:51.000 The last time I voted was when Kerry ran.

01:11:53.000 And then after that, I wasn't interested in politics.

01:11:55.000 And I just started seeing both sides.

01:11:58.000 Yeah, I was so pissed when Bush won.

01:12:00.000 Yeah, because I thought he was racist.

01:12:01.000 And I actually voted for him.

01:12:03.000 What's the dude?

01:12:03.000 Nobody can stand as a Republican.

01:12:06.000 No, the guy, he's still in.

01:12:07.000 He's in Utah.

01:12:08.000 Yeah.

01:12:09.000 Oh, Mitt Romney.

01:12:10.000 Mitt Romney.

01:12:10.000 I voted for him.

01:12:11.000 Yeah.

01:12:12.000 It's the first time I ever voted for a Republican.

01:12:13.000 In 2012, when he ran against Obama.

01:12:16.000 Yeah, he ran against Obama.

01:12:17.000 And you know what's crazy about Obama when I voted for him?

01:12:20.000 You know, being self-employed, I got a letter in the mail, and it was wondering that my insurance rates was going up.

01:12:26.000 He told me it because of Obamacare, and I lost a bunch of coverage, but my insurance premiums, I think, doubled.

01:12:32.000 And I lost coverage.

01:12:33.000 Yeah.

01:12:34.000 Then it really opened my eyes, just being an entrepreneur and having your own business.

01:12:39.000 I said, man, this has hurt my business, taking money off the table for my family, and I'm losing coverage for my family.

01:12:44.000 So I was like, wow, all because of Obamacare?

01:12:47.000 I thought that was supposed to help people.

01:12:48.000 But no, it hurt a lot of people.

01:12:50.000 Entrepreneurs, yeah.

01:12:51.000 I have an older brother.

01:12:53.000 He's a Republican.

01:12:54.000 He's always been a Republican.

01:12:56.000 Was he always an entrepreneur?

01:12:58.000 No, he's in the Army.

01:12:59.000 Military?

01:13:00.000 Retired Army.

01:13:00.000 And he started talking to us, and then I started to listen to both sides.

01:13:06.000 I always thought, even when I was a Democrat, when I used to hear Black people call Black conservatives Uncle Tom, I said, why don't you call him Uncle Tom?

01:13:13.000 I said, okay, I get it, but I was like, it's kind of stupid, right?

01:13:18.000 And...

01:13:20.000 To this day, they still call you.

01:13:22.000 Y'all remember that kid that went to Whataburger?

01:13:25.000 He's wearing his Trump hat.

01:13:27.000 He got attacked by the Mexican guy.

01:13:29.000 This is 2016, right?

01:13:30.000 He was in Whataburger.

01:13:31.000 We did a video on that.

01:13:33.000 I haven't really fully converted over.

01:13:35.000 I voted for Mitt Romney, but I didn't really consider myself to be a Republican.

01:13:40.000 Interestingly, what made you go with Mitt Romney?

01:13:42.000 Is it because your premiums doubled and stuff?

01:13:44.000 Yeah, he's bad for my business.

01:13:46.000 Why you didn't vote Obama?

01:13:47.000 Yeah, that's why I voted against it.

01:13:50.000 Yeah, because at this point, you guys are full into YouTube.

01:13:52.000 So you guys are, yeah, in 2008, you guys just kind of started, and then obviously by the end of his term, 2012, y'all are all the way in.

01:13:59.000 I didn't really understand the difference between Democrat and Republican.

01:14:01.000 And that's what woke you up.

01:14:02.000 Yeah, and then when we did that video on the kid who got attacked for wearing the MAGA hat, we was probably like moderates.

01:14:07.000 Yeah, at the time.

01:14:08.000 At the time.

01:14:09.000 Okay.

01:14:09.000 We was like, we grew up.

01:14:10.000 Libertarian, maybe?

01:14:11.000 Yeah.

01:14:12.000 Would y'all say y'all were libertarian?

01:14:13.000 Yeah, something like that.

01:14:14.000 Because I voted for both sides.

01:14:16.000 Yeah, so we do that video, like, stand for the kid.

01:14:18.000 I was like, regardless of who you vote for, you shouldn't be attacked for wearing a hat.

01:14:21.000 You shouldn't be attacked for wearing an Obama hat.

01:14:24.000 That's all we say in the video.

01:14:25.000 That's typically a moderate position, right?

01:14:26.000 That's what started getting me into politics.

01:14:28.000 I've seen Trump supporters get attacked and stuff.

01:14:29.000 Yeah.

01:14:30.000 You're actually some of the very first conservative accounts I started watching because I can't relate to guys like Ben Shapiro and stuff, but I see you guys.

01:14:36.000 You're funny, athletic.

01:14:38.000 All my friends were still hardcore Democratic, so I would actually send them your videos because they're relatable to them, especially out in San Francisco.

01:14:43.000 They're mostly minorities and stuff, too.

01:14:45.000 You guys were funny.

01:14:46.000 You actually woke a lot of people up.

01:14:48.000 My friend would start sending me videos back to you guys, so you actually reached a lot of people.

01:14:52.000 Yeah.

01:14:53.000 You know, I don't think people, and I really want to draw attention to this, I don't think people understand, like, in 2016, like, if you were an outward Trump supporter, like, you were going to be, you would get attacked on harassing people.

01:15:03.000 I remember this vividly in Boston, because I went back, I remember, because I graduated in 2013, but I went back and I wore, like, an America, Make America Great Again hat.

01:15:11.000 Mm-hmm.

01:15:11.000 Bro, people used to yell at me on the streets and say, fuck you, and all this other stuff.

01:15:15.000 And Boston, we know, is a pretty left-wing city.

01:15:18.000 But yeah, there's a good chance that people would harass and or attack you.

01:15:21.000 It was crazy, man.

01:15:22.000 And you know what's funny?

01:15:23.000 When we posted that video, we had fans that have been our fans for years.

01:15:27.000 And now they're attacking us.

01:15:29.000 Just for that video.

01:15:31.000 We put the video up on Instagram.

01:15:33.000 I think we lost like 10,000 followers.

01:15:35.000 I was going to say, did y'all lose...

01:15:36.000 A couple of hours.

01:15:37.000 Yeah.

01:15:37.000 And these are people that's been following me for a while.

01:15:40.000 Yeah.

01:15:40.000 And then that pushed me farther, right?

01:15:42.000 I was like...

01:15:43.000 So we started doing more and more conservative content.

01:15:45.000 I didn't think I was going to really...

01:15:46.000 I didn't even think it was conservative content.

01:15:47.000 It was just common sense.

01:15:49.000 Yeah.

01:15:49.000 You know?

01:15:50.000 Yeah.

01:15:50.000 So I was like, wow, man, this...

01:15:52.000 I always say right wing is right because it's common sense.

01:15:55.000 It's based on common sense.

01:15:56.000 I've seen conservatives just for common sense.

01:15:59.000 And when we posted that video, I said, damn, people are turning on me just because I had a different opinion.

01:16:03.000 I said, man, Democrats sound like a damn cult.

01:16:06.000 And then we noticed how our fan base gets changed.

01:16:10.000 They're violent too, bro.

01:16:11.000 I've always said that the left is way more violent than the right.

01:16:13.000 Yeah, I saw the Trump supporters.

01:16:15.000 That's what started getting me into politics.

01:16:17.000 Even when they write it on January 6th, they didn't destroy things like they do with BLM and Antifa.

01:16:23.000 We had that one thing that occurred on January 6th, but I think that it was manipulated.

01:16:27.000 Yeah.

01:16:27.000 And it wasn't even as bad.

01:16:29.000 Look at what happened in Minnesota and Minneapolis.

01:16:32.000 They destroyed that city.

01:16:34.000 I think like 20 people died during the BLM riots.

01:16:37.000 No one talks about that.

01:16:38.000 They burned those cities down, bro.

01:16:40.000 But they say because of January 6th, we're a threat against democracy.

01:16:43.000 When they burn down cities, police stations, towns.

01:16:46.000 And they encouraged it.

01:16:47.000 They had bail funds for it.

01:16:48.000 Kamala Harris had a bail fund to get people out.

01:16:50.000 No Democrat went out on camera and said, stop.

01:16:54.000 Not one Democrat.

01:16:55.000 They were bailing people out of jail.

01:16:56.000 Yeah.

01:16:57.000 Kamala Harris, she had a bill fund.

01:16:58.000 Now she might be a president.

01:16:59.000 It's crazy.

01:17:00.000 It was like really risky when we did that.

01:17:02.000 I thought I was committing suicide.

01:17:04.000 But they kind of pissed us off.

01:17:06.000 And then we was doing comedy shows at the time.

01:17:08.000 And I noticed our comedy shows...

01:17:10.000 This is what year now at this point?

01:17:12.000 2016, 2015?

01:17:14.000 Our comedy shows took a hit.

01:17:15.000 People wasn't showing up.

01:17:17.000 But the people were showing up.

01:17:18.000 It was coming in MAGA hats.

01:17:20.000 And we kept doing the videos.

01:17:24.000 And then that became a big part of who we are.

01:17:27.000 The conservatives support the hell out of us.

01:17:29.000 Yeah, like COVID. When we was out on COVID, man.

01:17:32.000 We have to be tight because we're the silent majority a lot of the times.

01:17:35.000 We exist, but we can't be outward about it.

01:17:37.000 And then if you're black, bro, even more like...

01:17:40.000 Do you know what's crazy?

01:17:42.000 When our politics channel took off, we would go to our shows.

01:17:46.000 I'm like, man...

01:17:47.000 The crowd totally changed.

01:17:49.000 We went to Nashville.

01:17:50.000 It's crazy.

01:17:50.000 Politics.

01:17:51.000 I said, man, I think these people at the wrong show.

01:17:53.000 Yeah.

01:17:53.000 And when I was looking at the one day, I said, oh my God, my fan base just changed overnight.

01:17:58.000 And when I went out, when we went to the stage, they gave us a standing ovation for like five minutes.

01:18:04.000 And then after the show, they gave us another standing ovation.

01:18:07.000 And then on top of that, they bought, we didn't have no merchandise.

01:18:13.000 Wow.

01:18:14.000 The love I got from white conservatives is no love I've ever felt.

01:18:18.000 Yeah.

01:18:18.000 That must have felt good.

01:18:18.000 I gotta ask you that.

01:18:19.000 Yeah, I mean, and I love this, that we're on this topic.

01:18:22.000 So, obviously you guys were comedians through two different eras, right?

01:18:26.000 Yeah.

01:18:27.000 When you guys were doing the finished stuff and doing the comedy, what was the makeup of your audience, roughly, percentage-wise?

01:18:33.000 Young kids.

01:18:33.000 20, 21, 22.

01:18:35.000 Okay.

01:18:36.000 What's the racial breakdown?

01:18:37.000 It's like a good mix of what the country is.

01:18:39.000 I would say I never really had a powerful black audience because I really don't resonate with black people to begin with.

01:18:45.000 But I would say our audience was probably about 25-30% black.

01:18:50.000 Okay.

01:18:51.000 Then I go to the conservative route.

01:18:54.000 What does it go shoot up to?

01:18:55.000 It's all white and there's two black guys in the audience, but they were white women.

01:19:00.000 Let's go.

01:19:00.000 And vice versa, the black women are white men.

01:19:03.000 Yeah.

01:19:03.000 Nice.

01:19:04.000 It's like...

01:19:05.000 You know what's very...

01:19:06.000 So we're talking 80-20?

01:19:08.000 I don't know.

01:19:09.000 It's more like 95% white.

01:19:12.000 And then the 5% are just random minorities.

01:19:14.000 Asians, Indians, black...

01:19:16.000 In California, it's more Latino.

01:19:17.000 Yeah, I know a bunch of Latinos.

01:19:19.000 Latino, Latino.

01:19:20.000 But I guess it's not the norm.

01:19:21.000 Right.

01:19:21.000 Our black fan base is...

01:19:23.000 Yeah.

01:19:25.000 Bro, they can't, like, it's crazy how they don't rock.

01:19:28.000 Man, if you're a black conservative, like, it's really, like, you're lonely out here.

01:19:32.000 When I was at the RNC. I barely saw niggas, bro.

01:19:37.000 Yeah, I know.

01:19:38.000 Barely.

01:19:38.000 You know what's crazy about conservatives?

01:19:40.000 Like, black conservatives will criticize the hell out of black liberals, right?

01:19:46.000 Yeah.

01:19:47.000 But you will never see...

01:19:49.000 You will see white people criticize other white people.

01:19:52.000 But the one thing that sticks out to me, if you're Jewish...

01:19:56.000 Here we go.

01:19:57.000 If you're a Jewish conservative, you would not ever, ever criticize Israel or another Jewish person.

01:20:03.000 No.

01:20:03.000 You would never cross that line.

01:20:04.000 No, no, no.

01:20:04.000 Never.

01:20:05.000 But white and black, we criticize each other, but...

01:20:07.000 When they stick together.

01:20:08.000 Mm-hmm.

01:20:09.000 You know what I mean?

01:20:10.000 We don't have that in the black community.

01:20:12.000 We're extremely divisive.

01:20:13.000 Yeah.

01:20:13.000 I got blacks telling me you ain't black.

01:20:15.000 They'll probably tell you guys you're not black.

01:20:16.000 They gonna say Kamala's black.

01:20:18.000 Yeah.

01:20:18.000 When you Sudanese.

01:20:19.000 Yeah.

01:20:20.000 I'm black in her.

01:20:21.000 Yeah.

01:20:22.000 I'm like, literally Sudan is like- You from the motherland.

01:20:24.000 Yeah, bro.

01:20:25.000 It means the land of the blacks.

01:20:26.000 Yeah.

01:20:26.000 That's what it literally means.

01:20:28.000 So, but whatever, you know.

01:20:29.000 Talk normal and dress nice.

01:20:31.000 I've grown up people telling me I'm not black.

01:20:33.000 Yeah.

01:20:34.000 Yeah.

01:20:34.000 I'm sure.

01:20:34.000 Like, yeah, yeah.

01:20:35.000 Y'all probably get like a- Yeah.

01:20:37.000 Yeah.

01:20:37.000 All the time.

01:20:37.000 They used to call us Prince.

01:20:39.000 Yeah.

01:20:40.000 Yeah, he's called us Prince.

01:20:41.000 My mama would put like a...

01:20:44.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:20:46.000 What's that stuff mama used to put in our hair?

01:20:48.000 I got pretty good...

01:20:49.000 No, we have pretty good hair, but mama puts a perm in our hair, and then that shit slicked back.

01:20:54.000 I look like a Mexican.

01:20:56.000 Y'all get out the chair, get up, and there's like grease in the back of the chair and shit.

01:21:02.000 You know what mama used to do to us?

01:21:04.000 When Michael Jackson was the shit...

01:21:06.000 Who was black and who was white?

01:21:06.000 Your mom or your dad?

01:21:07.000 Both our parents is black.

01:21:08.000 We just got white people from both sides.

01:21:10.000 And like my great-great-grandfather on my dad's side was white.

01:21:14.000 He's from Ireland.

01:21:15.000 Okay, so you're mostly all black.

01:21:16.000 You're not half-half.

01:21:17.000 Wait, so are both your parents...

01:21:18.000 About 54.

01:21:19.000 Are both y'all parents light-skinned too?

01:21:20.000 Yeah, my dad's really light.

01:21:22.000 Yeah.

01:21:22.000 And my mom is like your complexion.

01:21:25.000 Okay.

01:21:26.000 Mm-hmm.

01:21:27.000 So, you guys got it from your father's side, like the colored eye shit.

01:21:32.000 I remember my mama used to send us to school when Michael Jackson was high.

01:21:36.000 She used to send us to school on Pitch a Day with Edges.

01:21:40.000 Yo, that's crazy.

01:21:41.000 That's why, to this day, I cannot stand to see Edges on a woman.

01:21:45.000 I think Michael Jackson started that.

01:21:48.000 I do not like Edges.

01:21:49.000 I think it's the most unattractive thing.

01:21:52.000 Probably because mama put edges on me.

01:21:54.000 I got a damn baby picture.

01:21:55.000 I got edges.

01:22:00.000 So now that you guys have like kind of pivoted into the political space, obviously it's an election year, right?

01:22:05.000 This is a very, you know, which is huge, right?

01:22:10.000 What other conservative critters do you guys like to watch?

01:22:12.000 Do you guys not even watch anybody else?

01:22:13.000 I'll tune out the politics.

01:22:14.000 I went full conservative.

01:22:15.000 I was watching a lot of Larry Elder.

01:22:18.000 Okay.

01:22:18.000 Candace Owens.

01:22:19.000 Yep.

01:22:20.000 Diamond and Silk.

01:22:21.000 I like Larry Elder a lot.

01:22:22.000 He debunks a lot of the police brutality and systemic racism bullshit.

01:22:25.000 Right.

01:22:26.000 I like him a lot.

01:22:27.000 He's one of the first conservatives that came because I was watching Ben Shapiro.

01:22:31.000 Right?

01:22:32.000 He had been on Piers Morgan.

01:22:34.000 And I was following Ben Shapiro, but I came across a video where he said he was influenced by Larry Elder.

01:22:41.000 I said, who the hell is Larry Elder?

01:22:42.000 And I started watching a bunch of Larry Elder.

01:22:43.000 Yeah, he's good.

01:22:45.000 And I said, wow, that's a black conservative.

01:22:46.000 I came across Tatum, too.

01:22:48.000 So I was watching them just so I wouldn't feel like I'm crazy as a black person.

01:22:54.000 They validated my views, you know?

01:22:56.000 And I don't think the audience understands this.

01:22:58.000 If you speak proper English, if you...

01:23:01.000 Vote any way right or whatever.

01:23:03.000 Like, they literally call you, like, all types of names to, like, shit on you.

01:23:07.000 Like, bro, like, you literally get ostracized by your people.

01:23:09.000 Like, that's why when I was at the RNC, everybody that I ran into that was black, like, it's like, we immediately like, oh, what up, blah, blah, blah, yo, Myron Freshman.

01:23:16.000 Like, it's like, because we just get it.

01:23:18.000 Look at the Negroes.

01:23:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:23:20.000 Yeah, that's what it's like.

01:23:23.000 Bro, because I'll tell y'all, man, like, there was no, I'm surprised you guys didn't go.

01:23:26.000 Like, I'm probably too edgy for them.

01:23:30.000 Nah, man.

01:23:30.000 We're pushing some boundaries right now.

01:23:31.000 Nah, man.

01:23:32.000 Y'all could have 100% been there.

01:23:34.000 They'll still love you, but you're definitely pushing some boundaries.

01:23:35.000 I think they was going to fight us, but they didn't get back to us.

01:23:37.000 Yeah.

01:23:38.000 It was hard to get the fucking shit.

01:23:40.000 I think I know exactly why they didn't invite you.

01:23:42.000 I'm sure you do, too.

01:23:43.000 Yeah, I do, too.

01:23:44.000 But that's stupid.

01:23:45.000 That's the one thing that pissed me off.

01:23:47.000 Actually, I got to ask y'all this, because they let Amber Rose dumbass go in there.

01:23:50.000 Yeah.

01:23:50.000 And she did a speech and everything.

01:23:51.000 It's all about numbers.

01:23:53.000 She's got a lot of numbers.

01:23:54.000 I think she's got 23 million.

01:23:55.000 I don't think so, and I'll tell y'all why.

01:23:58.000 I think y'all are more influential, and I'll tell you guys why.

01:24:01.000 So, her fit, well, number one, she's not relevant, right?

01:24:04.000 She hasn't been popping since, like, 2015.

01:24:05.000 She did the slut walk, right?

01:24:07.000 She has a lot of followers on Instagram, but we all know Instagram's cap, right?

01:24:11.000 And she does OnlyFans, right?

01:24:13.000 So the people that support her are horny dudes, right?

01:24:19.000 Who probably are already Republican anyway a lot of the times.

01:24:22.000 So it's like, is she really...

01:24:24.000 Because they brought her in to target black females and women in general, right?

01:24:28.000 Is she really going to bring you black females and the black vote?

01:24:31.000 She's not.

01:24:33.000 She's not going to bring it.

01:24:34.000 So Who are our fan base?

01:24:36.000 Dudes.

01:24:37.000 Well, a lot of them are probably going to vote Republican anyway, so why the fuck are you bringing her here?

01:24:40.000 So, to me, I looked at it like, if y'all are going to go ahead and make a play like that and bring someone in that's totally not conservative and totally grifting, wearing a MAGA hat with legs wide open and shit, like, make it worth it.

01:24:50.000 Like, Bring a sexy red or something like that if you really want to bring that in.

01:24:54.000 Yeah, if you really want that black.

01:24:55.000 If you really want, like, bring a Nicki Minaj, right?

01:25:00.000 Like, if y'all really, because that's what...

01:25:02.000 But what they gonna be doing, twerking?

01:25:04.000 Yeah, that's what they do with Kamala shit.

01:25:06.000 But that was like, and that's the thing with, and that's the one thing about Republicans, and I want to get your guys' take on this.

01:25:10.000 Yeah.

01:25:11.000 I think Republicans are way out of touch.

01:25:13.000 They don't understand pop culture.

01:25:14.000 They're 20 years...

01:25:16.000 Bro, these niggas had Kid Rock there.

01:25:17.000 Come on, man.

01:25:19.000 The Republicans are horrible politicians.

01:25:21.000 They're behind.

01:25:22.000 They brought Hulk Hogan.

01:25:24.000 Come on, dude.

01:25:24.000 It's not 1981 anymore.

01:25:26.000 You guys got to bring in people that are fucking relevant.

01:25:28.000 Hulk Hogan is already voting for Republicans.

01:25:30.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:25:30.000 And the people that are watching Amber Rose and whacking off to her are probably either not going to vote or they're going to vote Republican anyway.

01:25:36.000 Because they're not bringing in the target audience that they want, which is what?

01:25:39.000 Black women and women in general.

01:25:40.000 Women don't watch porn.

01:25:41.000 They need women.

01:25:43.000 That's why I was kind of upset when they chose Vance.

01:25:46.000 I thought Tulsi Gabbard would have been perfect for that.

01:25:49.000 Yep, Tulsi would be way better.

01:25:50.000 What do y'all not like about Vance?

01:25:53.000 He's white.

01:25:55.000 And I love him.

01:25:57.000 I think he's a great pick.

01:25:58.000 You mean from a political standpoint?

01:26:00.000 From a strategy standpoint?

01:26:01.000 He's a great...

01:26:01.000 He's perfect for the job.

01:26:04.000 But if we're going to make any progress in this country, we've got to start recruiting blacks and more females.

01:26:09.000 You're not going to do that by putting two white men.

01:26:11.000 What do you think about Carson then?

01:26:13.000 Ben Carson's been great.

01:26:14.000 Someone other than a white man, if y'all want to help save the country, y'all can't do it by yourself.

01:26:19.000 It's just white men.

01:26:20.000 You're going to have to use people of color, women, gays.

01:26:23.000 That's how you're going to make a difference.

01:26:24.000 She's both.

01:26:25.000 And she's mixed.

01:26:26.000 Yeah.

01:26:26.000 And she left the Democrat party.

01:26:28.000 She'd have been perfect.

01:26:29.000 This is the thing.

01:26:29.000 But Vick would have been great, too.

01:26:31.000 Yeah, it was good.

01:26:32.000 Yeah.

01:26:33.000 It's just actually, he's too dark.

01:26:36.000 Yeah, like, yeah, Jamie Vance, you know, yeah, I see what you mean.

01:26:41.000 He's too dark.

01:26:41.000 If he was white, blue eyes, you see his poll numbers?

01:26:44.000 I told him that on the podcast, I said, dude, if you had a blonde ponytail and they had 1776 on your face, you had blue eyes, you would be Trump's vice president.

01:26:52.000 I told him straight to his face.

01:26:54.000 I think with Vivek, it's a double-edged sword because he gives very Obama vibes.

01:27:00.000 And it's like what I've noticed with Obama is you either love him or you absolutely hate him.

01:27:04.000 And I call him old drama Obama because people don't know that this dude killed more people with airstrikes and drones than anyone else.

01:27:10.000 Right, right, right.

01:27:10.000 Like fucking destabilized Syria, fucking destroyed Libya for no reason.

01:27:14.000 Right.

01:27:15.000 Like just a bunch of stupid shit.

01:27:16.000 Gaddafi wasn't a fucking bad guy.

01:27:17.000 He got the Nobel Peace Prize.

01:27:19.000 He did.

01:27:19.000 And he killed a lot of people, bro.

01:27:20.000 Global peace fighters for bombing kids.

01:27:22.000 You know?

01:27:22.000 But he was just such a good speaker that people didn't really, like, look past and look at the...

01:27:26.000 And the media covered it.

01:27:29.000 They did.

01:27:29.000 They really...

01:27:30.000 Yeah.

01:27:31.000 You know, and they're very pompous.

01:27:32.000 I watched them at the DNC, like, him and his wife talk, and they're just very...

01:27:36.000 You know, everything is like...

01:27:37.000 They got a fucking, like, oh, yeah, we're rich and we're black and we're successful and we went to Harvard and stuff.

01:27:43.000 Very pompous, right?

01:27:44.000 They try to be humble, but they're not.

01:27:46.000 So that's kind of like...

01:27:48.000 I think Vivek gives kind of like that vibe.

01:27:51.000 And then people would attack him.

01:27:53.000 Being from a pharmaceutical company.

01:27:54.000 Yeah, and then that's going to hurt him too, being from a pharmaceutical company.

01:27:57.000 He says the right things.

01:27:58.000 I don't know if I trust him.

01:27:59.000 There you go.

01:28:00.000 That's what it is.

01:28:01.000 He says a lot of stuff I love.

01:28:03.000 I don't know if it's genuine or not.

01:28:06.000 He's too good.

01:28:08.000 The stuff he says is awesome.

01:28:10.000 I think if there's no Obama, I think he does a little bit better.

01:28:13.000 There's no history of Obama.

01:28:16.000 Honestly, I think he'd be better off just becoming a liberal.

01:28:20.000 Because that's all Republicans are.

01:28:22.000 All we are is pro-life liberals.

01:28:24.000 That's really when it boils down to it, because the left has pulled the Republicans so far to the center.

01:28:30.000 You think so?

01:28:31.000 I mean, about gun laws, that's one thing that they're not going to yield on.

01:28:36.000 The left is going to be, they're always going to be crying about guns.

01:28:38.000 There's just certain issues they're always going to bitch about that we won't accept.

01:28:42.000 That's what liberal means.

01:28:43.000 Freedom of speech, Second Amendment.

01:28:45.000 Yeah, he's talking about the old Joe Biden from the 80s.

01:28:48.000 Yeah.

01:28:49.000 Like, these people today, these people today, they're not liberals, they're progressives.

01:28:54.000 Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.

01:28:55.000 Far left.

01:28:56.000 They keep calling them liberals.

01:28:57.000 They are not liberals.

01:28:58.000 Yeah, they're far left.

01:28:59.000 They have censorship.

01:29:00.000 They hate guns.

01:29:02.000 And they love money from big corporations.

01:29:04.000 Look at all these old videos of Biden.

01:29:06.000 He was against gay marriage.

01:29:08.000 Mm-hmm.

01:29:09.000 He was tough on the border.

01:29:10.000 He was tough on the border.

01:29:12.000 He was tough.

01:29:12.000 He didn't like abortion.

01:29:14.000 Remember that?

01:29:15.000 He's just like a modern-day conservative voter.

01:29:17.000 He was Trump back in the day.

01:29:19.000 The modern-day Trump today.

01:29:21.000 Yeah, Trump is actually pretty center-right.

01:29:24.000 I would say he's center-right.

01:29:25.000 Yeah, he's a pro-life liberal.

01:29:26.000 He's actually closer to fucking...

01:29:28.000 He's actually closer to libertarian than...

01:29:31.000 Yeah.

01:29:31.000 I would say.

01:29:34.000 But, you know, it's just...

01:29:35.000 When I think of a conservative, I think of evangelicals, people that...

01:29:39.000 Oh, yeah.

01:29:40.000 Pro-life.

01:29:41.000 That's what a conservative is.

01:29:43.000 But our Republican Party, we are modern-day, old-school liberals.

01:29:47.000 You know, it's...

01:29:50.000 It's interesting that you guys brought up the whole...

01:29:51.000 Because, like, that was a very controversial pick, J.D. Vance.

01:29:53.000 Like, a lot of people, like, the MAGA supporters didn't like it.

01:29:56.000 You know what I mean?

01:29:56.000 Yeah, I think he tried Trump in the beginning.

01:29:58.000 Yeah, he was a never-Trumper.

01:30:00.000 Like, selected a woman.

01:30:02.000 I thought it'd been great.

01:30:02.000 Okay, so this is a good question.

01:30:04.000 So, like, personally...

01:30:07.000 I don't think women should be in offices of high power.

01:30:09.000 Yeah, I know.

01:30:09.000 I know.

01:30:10.000 But I understand that it's 2024.

01:30:13.000 And the vice-presidential, you know, let's be honest here.

01:30:16.000 The vice-president position is a ceremonial position.

01:30:19.000 Right.

01:30:20.000 And a lot of the times, it's a political position to gather votes.

01:30:24.000 It's typically, they have a strong point that the president has a weak point on.

01:30:30.000 I think it would have been a good move to bring her on from a strictly strategic point.

01:30:34.000 If we're not talking policy, we're just talking strategy.

01:30:36.000 Yeah, because the problem with Trump is that he alienates women.

01:30:40.000 And that's actually, that is what's keeping Kamala up, is the undecided female voters.

01:30:45.000 Two-thirds of them now are going to go Kamala Harris.

01:30:48.000 And you never hear a Republican, Trump, or anybody else come out and And say, I'm not going to ban abortion.

01:30:55.000 They won't say it, because I think that's what they're trying to do.

01:30:58.000 That's why they overturned Roe v.

01:30:59.000 Wade.

01:30:59.000 They're going to regulate it.

01:31:01.000 They're going to ban it.

01:31:02.000 Some states are going to regulate it.

01:31:03.000 Yeah, they only go fully ban it, though.

01:31:04.000 Let's make it more regulated.

01:31:05.000 If they do that, then it'd be one huge...

01:31:07.000 I think Trump's policy on it is fantastic.

01:31:09.000 Delegated to the Supreme Court, then the Supreme Court threw it to the states.

01:31:12.000 But the problem with that is that that creates the illusion that he actually banned it.

01:31:16.000 Because, dude, first day of the DNC, All they're talking about is abortion and how Trump got rid of abortion.

01:31:21.000 I'm like, no, he didn't.

01:31:22.000 Stop lying, you guys.

01:31:23.000 Trump can fix that so fast.

01:31:25.000 He could have had a woman as his VP and a VP woman come out and say, this is our position on this.

01:31:30.000 We're never going to abandon abortion.

01:31:32.000 We're not going to abandon abortion.

01:31:34.000 We're just going to regulate it.

01:31:35.000 You've got a certain amount of time.

01:31:36.000 So I'm asking a question.

01:31:37.000 Why doesn't he come out and say that?

01:31:39.000 I'm gonna ask that question.

01:31:40.000 They won't say it.

01:31:41.000 Because the GOP, they would not.

01:31:44.000 I think to him, he looks at it like...

01:31:46.000 Abortion is really a lose-lose situation if you're a Republican, bro.

01:31:50.000 It's a lose-lose.

01:31:51.000 I think he's got horrible people around him.

01:31:53.000 But you're never gonna win that battle.

01:31:55.000 Chris Lasavita and the other girl are trash.

01:31:58.000 Yeah.

01:31:59.000 They're garbage.

01:31:59.000 And the thing is that, like...

01:32:01.000 Okay.

01:32:02.000 They don't fucking get it.

01:32:03.000 Like, they use these old Republican tactics of, like, we're gonna campaign on this and stick to policy and be boring and all this other bullshit.

01:32:11.000 And then, like, when they book talent, like, it's people that are old, man.

01:32:16.000 Like, if you guys want to bring in these young, fresh voters, etc., you have to be relevant.

01:32:20.000 They're not doing that, yeah.

01:32:22.000 They're not.

01:32:22.000 They're nothing to reach out to the young.

01:32:24.000 They're not.

01:32:24.000 If we lose this country, Marxism and communism is all the Republicans' fault because they're trying to stand on that one principle, pro-life, and you're going to lose our country.

01:32:36.000 No, it's not a winning...

01:32:38.000 You're not going to win that fight.

01:32:39.000 Because the biggest electorate in the country is women.

01:32:42.000 Women vote in all the Democrats.

01:32:45.000 Women is the biggest issue, and then it's black people.

01:32:49.000 Yeah, single women are almost all Democrats.

01:32:52.000 Yeah, every time.

01:32:53.000 Yeah, every time women vote Republican as they're married, typically.

01:32:56.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:32:57.000 Yeah, that's how we lose.

01:32:58.000 All our legs and Republicans are like insane.

01:33:01.000 They're doing the same thing over and over and over.

01:33:03.000 That's the definition of insanity.

01:33:04.000 If you want to help save the country, you got to start talking to these people.

01:33:07.000 You know what sucks?

01:33:07.000 Like, because here's the thing with the GOP is like, it's kind of what's kept them successful is not bending, right?

01:33:13.000 Right.

01:33:13.000 But at the same time.

01:33:15.000 It's about to break.

01:33:15.000 Yeah, but at the same time, in a modern day world, That's also hurting them, too.

01:33:20.000 Because one of the big criticisms of the left is they've continuously shifted and shifted and become more and more radically left.

01:33:26.000 And they're still competitive in the elections.

01:33:28.000 They always win the popular vote.

01:33:30.000 And they're crazy.

01:33:31.000 People forget that Hillary won the popular vote.

01:33:33.000 Yeah.

01:33:34.000 And they're nuts.

01:33:35.000 It's because they don't campaign on principle.

01:33:37.000 They campaign emotion.

01:33:39.000 Yes.

01:33:40.000 Republicans need to do that.

01:33:41.000 That's why I think a woman VP would have been best.

01:33:44.000 You gotta play the game.

01:33:45.000 Let me tell you this.

01:33:47.000 DNC, right?

01:33:47.000 First day.

01:33:49.000 Right?

01:33:49.000 Which I think was their strongest day.

01:33:50.000 They brought three women up to talk and they went hard on abortion.

01:33:53.000 And every single one of them gave an abortion story.

01:33:55.000 What was the story they gave?

01:33:56.000 Oh, I was going to die.

01:33:58.000 I was going to miscarriage.

01:33:59.000 I was sexually assaulted.

01:34:00.000 Hitting those hard points where you're like, damn, even as a Republican, you do deserve an abortion.

01:34:05.000 But we all know, like anyone that's halfway intelligent knows, these instances are 2-3% of abortions.

01:34:12.000 When you rape or incest, when you report it at the hospital, they give you the day after pill.

01:34:15.000 Yeah.

01:34:16.000 So it's not even an issue, really.

01:34:17.000 Yeah, it's not.

01:34:18.000 It's more of a fake debate.

01:34:19.000 But most Americans don't know how rare it is to have these situations happen where you justify the abortion.

01:34:26.000 You can manipulate women very easily, especially Blacks.

01:34:30.000 So Republicans do the same thing.

01:34:32.000 Instead, they just bitch about it, but instead they should copy it and manipulate them back.

01:34:35.000 That's what I've been saying for a while.

01:34:36.000 When a person's killed in this country by an immigrant, it's always a white girl.

01:34:40.000 They never show the Blacks that's being killed.

01:34:43.000 Because their voting base is not going to...

01:34:46.000 The Democrats, the one thing I'll give is they're just cooler.

01:34:51.000 They're more hip.

01:34:52.000 They're more in tune with the trends.

01:34:54.000 Kamala's first rally, she brings Quavo and Megan Thee Stallion, two relevant rappers immediately.

01:35:00.000 They're playing to her strengths.

01:35:01.000 She's not doing interviews or anything else like that or getting asked hard questions.

01:35:04.000 She's not going to adversarial news stations like J.D. Vance did.

01:35:08.000 She's not talking policy.

01:35:10.000 You think they're going to debate?

01:35:12.000 They're going to debate?

01:35:13.000 Yeah, they are.

01:35:14.000 It's set, but it's going to be on ABC. Yeah.

01:35:16.000 I don't like it when the...

01:35:18.000 It's not going to be fair.

01:35:19.000 The last debate, the moderator wasn't covering for Joe Biden, you know?

01:35:22.000 Yeah, that was good.

01:35:23.000 The prior debate, when Trump lost the election, when he debated him, I thought they protected Joe Biden.

01:35:28.000 No, Trump was debating the moderator and Biden.

01:35:32.000 Yeah, I just...

01:35:32.000 And he took a lot of cheap shots, too, in interrupting.

01:35:35.000 And if Trump would just keep his cool and don't get so...

01:35:42.000 Defensive.

01:35:43.000 This next debate, because they're going to attack him for those bogus felonies he's got.

01:35:47.000 They're going to call him a racist.

01:35:48.000 They did on the last one.

01:35:50.000 Even Joe Biden, he got the ethics of an alley cat.

01:35:53.000 Remember that shit.

01:35:54.000 I heard that he's got...

01:35:56.000 Y'all remember that?

01:35:58.000 I lost my shit.

01:35:59.000 I was like, what the hell kind of joke is this?

01:36:02.000 Ethics of an alley cat.

01:36:03.000 I heard Tulsi Gabbard is actually helping him with his debate because she destroyed her.

01:36:08.000 Oh, Kamala?

01:36:09.000 Yeah, that's what ruined her run.

01:36:11.000 Which is why she is not his VP. I would love to hear as VP, but...

01:36:16.000 Well, instead of Nikki Haley, he could bring her and put her...

01:36:18.000 Anybody but Nikki Haley.

01:36:19.000 Yeah, I don't...

01:36:20.000 That's another thing a lot of the MAGA people are angry about, is why the fuck are you going to give Nikki Haley a job?

01:36:25.000 She's sold you out so many different times.

01:36:27.000 Exactly.

01:36:27.000 And I think, like, for the hardcore Trumpers, they saw what Pence did, and they're like, are you stupid?

01:36:32.000 Why do you got these people around you?

01:36:34.000 Lissa Vita, who didn't believe that the election was rigged.

01:36:36.000 J.D. Vance was another Trumper.

01:36:38.000 Nikki Haley, who's fucking badmouthed you and talked shit about you all day, and she's a warmonger.

01:36:42.000 Right.

01:36:42.000 Like, you know...

01:36:44.000 Yeah, they don't like him.

01:36:45.000 It's fake.

01:36:45.000 They're pretending they like him because he's winning.

01:36:47.000 Yeah.

01:36:47.000 Like, Vance does not like him.

01:36:48.000 You don't go from never Trump or calling him a Nazi or this and that to like, oh, I love Trump.

01:36:52.000 It's so fake.

01:36:53.000 Well, Vance is an opportunist.

01:36:55.000 Yeah.

01:36:55.000 Is what I think.

01:36:56.000 Opportunist.

01:36:56.000 He's 100% an opportunist.

01:36:57.000 I wonder if those two actually like each other.

01:36:59.000 Yeah.

01:37:00.000 I don't think Vance likes Trump.

01:37:01.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:37:02.000 I doubt all of a sudden he started liking him.

01:37:03.000 How do you go from calling Trump Hitler to being his VP? Yeah.

01:37:06.000 I don't think Trump...

01:37:08.000 I don't think anybody picks their VP. I think the party picks the VP. Yeah.

01:37:12.000 The donors pick the VP. I don't think it's...

01:37:14.000 He's very pro-Israel.

01:37:15.000 Trump just took a lot of...

01:37:16.000 Because it's their ceremonial position.

01:37:17.000 It's not real.

01:37:18.000 Like, to be honest with y'all.

01:37:19.000 Yeah.

01:37:19.000 It's really not a real position.

01:37:21.000 It's like...

01:37:22.000 If the president's competent, all the vice president really does is he deals with bullshit that the president wants to deal with.

01:37:29.000 I remember when Obama was in, Biden was just pretty much a pseudo-secretary of state who was traveling around, going to Ukraine, doing his deals.

01:37:37.000 I just hope Trump wins this election and J.D. Vance is going to be assuring for the Republican nominee.

01:37:44.000 I just hope he chooses somebody else other than a black person.

01:37:47.000 I mean, other than a white person.

01:37:48.000 I'm not saying give the I see it because you're speaking from a strategic position, which, you know, this is what the Democrats have done forever.

01:38:01.000 Like the Democrats are super heavy in race politics.

01:38:04.000 And that's why they're able to They're able to dupe everybody.

01:38:08.000 They're able to dupe the Muslim community to voting for them.

01:38:11.000 And if you look at the Islamic faith, it's super conservative.

01:38:14.000 Super conservative.

01:38:15.000 But it's the Muslim women that's been empowered that's voting Democrat.

01:38:21.000 They want handouts, if I'm going to be honest.

01:38:22.000 And I say this is a guy that's like fucking Muslim myself.

01:38:24.000 Especially when they're immigrants that are first coming in.

01:38:26.000 They come in like, oh, tolerance, yeah.

01:38:29.000 Oh, yeah, we're not going to be harassed.

01:38:30.000 We get money, blah, blah, blah.

01:38:32.000 And then as they get, like, then they figure this shit out.

01:38:34.000 Like in Dearborn, they're damn near going Republican now.

01:38:37.000 Right, right.

01:38:37.000 Because they try to bring in this whole, you know, alphabet agenda.

01:38:41.000 What the fuck is this?

01:38:43.000 I never understood why I'm Muslim.

01:38:46.000 But vote for it.

01:38:47.000 There's no reason.

01:38:48.000 No, it doesn't make any sense.

01:38:49.000 If you're a Muslim, you should be voting right.

01:38:52.000 I don't understand why Christian people are voting for it.

01:38:55.000 The Muslims might be part of it at the war, the Iraq war and stuff, because the British was so anti-Muslim, so that was probably part of it.

01:39:00.000 But lots of Muslims are starting to switch over.

01:39:02.000 Right, that's cool.

01:39:04.000 Because, yeah, I mean, if you want to talk about Middle Eastern foreign policy, Democrats clearly can't control Nanyahu.

01:39:09.000 Yeah.

01:39:09.000 Right.

01:39:10.000 Yeah, but Trump said he's gonna let him do what he wants.

01:39:11.000 That's the one thing I really don't like about Trump.

01:39:13.000 What I think he's gonna do is this.

01:39:15.000 He's gonna give them what they need.

01:39:17.000 He's gonna tell them, you have three months.

01:39:19.000 And you're not going to start a war with Iran or Lebanon or any of that stuff.

01:39:24.000 Because a war would be really bad for Trump.

01:39:26.000 It would be really bad.

01:39:27.000 How do you say his name?

01:39:28.000 Netanyahu?

01:39:29.000 Netanyahu, yeah.

01:39:29.000 I can't say it because I heard what Kanye said.

01:39:32.000 Netanyahu.

01:39:33.000 You came with the Yahoo milk?

01:39:35.000 Netanyahu?

01:39:35.000 You came with the Yahoo milk and a net when he went to Alex Jones.

01:39:40.000 I was confused the first 10 minutes.

01:39:41.000 I was like, what is Kanye doing?

01:39:43.000 What's he talking about?

01:39:43.000 Then I go, oh, Netanyahu.

01:39:46.000 I was like, man, this is crazy.

01:39:47.000 But I want to say this about Israel.

01:39:49.000 Why don't they just draw a line, y'all split it equally 50-50, and when we send money to Israel, half of it goes to Palestine, and y'all become a two-party state.

01:39:59.000 That's the only way it's going to work.

01:40:01.000 I think the only way you would get peace there...

01:40:04.000 Well, number one, you got to get an Anyahu out because he doesn't want actual peace.

01:40:06.000 Then another thing is, like, two-state solution, and then make it where...

01:40:10.000 We give both of them aid.

01:40:12.000 Yeah.

01:40:12.000 And them getting aid is contingent upon them being peaceful.

01:40:15.000 Right.

01:40:15.000 And on top of that, like, so they get no money.

01:40:17.000 And then on top of that, you should make it where, like, one person supplies food, another one supplies water.

01:40:22.000 If y'all go to war, you guys effectively kill each other.

01:40:25.000 Right.

01:40:25.000 Yeah, right now the aid goes to Israel and they give it to them.

01:40:28.000 And that's the problem.

01:40:29.000 That's the problem.

01:40:30.000 There's zero incentive for them to make peace because they control everything.

01:40:32.000 Right.

01:40:33.000 Their military runs everything.

01:40:34.000 They're bringing the food in, et cetera, so they can do what they want.

01:40:36.000 They don't want to give any back.

01:40:37.000 Right.

01:40:37.000 So it's...

01:40:38.000 Yeah, if we really want to take over I would say, you disband the IDF, put American soldiers there, if you really want the peace there, and make it where it's like, we run both y'all, and you guys have your independent state, but we run you guys, and that's how we really end the situation.

01:40:54.000 Or is all I gotta do is say, no more military aid to Israel.

01:40:56.000 Let them figure it out themselves.

01:40:58.000 But then they would be gone.

01:40:59.000 Let them kill each other.

01:41:00.000 Yeah, then it would be gone.

01:41:01.000 So I think that's like, well, actually, no, I don't want my soldiers over there.

01:41:06.000 You'd have to figure something out where they...

01:41:08.000 You'd have to, because if you're, because IDF is there, so now you have to arm Palestine.

01:41:12.000 And then obviously with them both having equal arms, there's always the war.

01:41:16.000 But then the checks and balances would be, they would need each other to survive.

01:41:19.000 So if they went ahead and had a war, well, now they both don't get aid and now they're both going to starve.

01:41:23.000 Right.

01:41:24.000 Because that's the first thing the Jewish people are going to say.

01:41:28.000 Hey, they're going to attack us with your weapons.

01:41:30.000 Well, you're attacking them with your weapons.

01:41:32.000 So always play them out to be like the evil...

01:41:34.000 You need mutually assured destruction, really.

01:41:36.000 It'd be damn near from a nuclear perspective.

01:41:40.000 If y'all go to war, not only are you guys going to kill each other, but now you guys can't eat either or drink water or anything.

01:41:44.000 So they would have to make peace.

01:41:46.000 And I think a big part, you've got to get Netanyahu out.

01:41:48.000 You have a fresh face in there and then get someone a fresh face for the Palestinians.

01:41:51.000 Not Yasser Arafat.

01:41:53.000 These guys have ingrained hatred for decades.

01:41:55.000 You need to bring new faces in there.

01:41:56.000 It won't happen, though, unless we threaten to cut off our hate.

01:41:59.000 Yeah, we have to be serious.

01:42:00.000 I don't think anyone will do that.

01:42:01.000 Be like, I'm about to cut your hate off unless you do this.

01:42:02.000 Yeah, because of the Jewish lobby.

01:42:04.000 Yep, yep.

01:42:04.000 APAC. Good old APAC. For all the politicians.

01:42:08.000 It's a never-ending war.

01:42:11.000 That is crazy.

01:42:13.000 They welcome the Jewish people in after...

01:42:15.000 World War II. They accepted them as refugees.

01:42:18.000 Those refugees took over that country.

01:42:21.000 That is crazy.

01:42:22.000 People are getting kicked out of their house.

01:42:23.000 People are letting in their house.

01:42:24.000 It's pretty brutal if you actually look at the history of it.

01:42:26.000 Not the fake history they tell us.

01:42:28.000 Look up the knock button shit and you're like, oh, what the hell?

01:42:31.000 Because everyone thinks everything started October 7th, but it's like, dude.

01:42:34.000 I used to be scared of Muslims.

01:42:35.000 I used to be scared of Muslims.

01:42:36.000 I hate America.

01:42:38.000 All that shit that happened to us because we were doing that shit to them.

01:42:41.000 Yeah.

01:42:42.000 Yeah, man.

01:42:43.000 I mean, Osama, like, he wrote a letter, Letter to America.

01:42:46.000 It, like, went trending on TikTok in November of last year.

01:42:49.000 And it took, like, 20 years for people to, like, and then all these, like, Gen Zers are like, wait, hold on!

01:42:54.000 Right.

01:42:55.000 Like, they had no clue about this letter.

01:42:57.000 Like, everything I've been told is a lie.

01:42:59.000 I thought this dude hated us because we're free.

01:43:00.000 Right.

01:43:01.000 Nah, like, we paid Bin Laden.

01:43:03.000 Yeah.

01:43:04.000 Y'all remember that one guy, Timothy McVeigh?

01:43:06.000 Yeah.

01:43:07.000 Yes.

01:43:07.000 Yeah, he came back.

01:43:08.000 Oklahoma City bomber.

01:43:09.000 Yeah, the dude that bombed Oklahoma City, he saw some messed up stuff over there, what he was doing today.

01:43:14.000 Killing children, women, and it messed them up.

01:43:17.000 That's why he did that terrorist attack.

01:43:19.000 Was he in Desert Storm?

01:43:20.000 Yeah, PTSD or something like that.

01:43:21.000 Yeah, but he saw some stuff that actually made him flip on America.

01:43:26.000 Yeah.

01:43:26.000 Yeah, white dude from, yeah, like he just fucking blew up a federal building in Oklahoma.

01:43:31.000 Yeah.

01:43:31.000 Remember that shit, 95?

01:43:32.000 All because of what he was doing to the other people.

01:43:34.000 Yeah.

01:43:35.000 I've said it.

01:43:36.000 Almost every terrorist attack in the United States, it's always typically retaliation for Israel.

01:43:42.000 That's just a fact.

01:43:43.000 It is what it is.

01:43:43.000 You look at their manifestos.

01:43:45.000 It's every single one.

01:43:47.000 You can't really call it a terrorist attack if we're killing you.

01:43:49.000 They just retaliate.

01:43:50.000 We do the exact same thing when they hurt us.

01:43:52.000 Yeah.

01:43:53.000 And you got to also like people forget like that.

01:43:55.000 Like we funded Bin Laden.

01:43:57.000 We created Al-Qaeda.

01:43:58.000 And ISIS. Yeah.

01:43:59.000 We created all the weapons we left in Afghanistan.

01:44:02.000 Yeah.

01:44:02.000 They just did a parade with all our equipment.

01:44:05.000 How much billions of dollars of equipment did we lose?

01:44:08.000 I don't know.

01:44:09.000 A lot of billions.

01:44:10.000 It was in a billion.

01:44:11.000 Classified shit.

01:44:12.000 Yeah.

01:44:13.000 They just left the shit there.

01:44:14.000 Biden, man, he just said, fuck it.

01:44:17.000 Taliban came back in because they were drawing George Floyd murals in there.

01:44:20.000 I saw that and I'm like, oh, that's why they want the, they had big George Floyd murals the military was painting there.

01:44:24.000 They don't have black people in Afghanistan.

01:44:26.000 They're looking at this being like, get these people out of here.

01:44:29.000 That is nuts.

01:44:30.000 And then Russia, Ukraine, that's another issue.

01:44:32.000 We keep dumping money over.

01:44:33.000 What are your thoughts on that?

01:44:34.000 On Russia, Ukraine?

01:44:35.000 Yeah.

01:44:35.000 He's just defending his borders.

01:44:37.000 That's all he's doing.

01:44:37.000 That's all Russia's doing, but it's a...

01:44:39.000 They're going to call you pulling apologies now, bro.

01:44:42.000 No, we do the same shit.

01:44:44.000 Well, Putin said this for decades.

01:44:46.000 Look, Ukraine, I don't want Ukraine entering into NATO. I want to protect my borders.

01:44:52.000 I want a buffer zone.

01:44:53.000 Yeah.

01:44:53.000 Now there's all this talk of Ukraine going into NATO, and that's why he invaded.

01:44:56.000 And we've already given him billions of dollars.

01:44:59.000 Yeah.

01:44:59.000 You invade with the United States.

01:45:01.000 You're a threat to me.

01:45:02.000 That's why he invaded.

01:45:03.000 He made that message known to the United States for decades.

01:45:05.000 Did you guys see his interview with Tucker?

01:45:06.000 Yeah, I saw Porto.

01:45:07.000 That was a good interview.

01:45:08.000 People gave Tucker a hard time.

01:45:09.000 I think he did a fantastic job.

01:45:10.000 I think he did a great job.

01:45:11.000 They were like, oh, you let him drone on about Russian history.

01:45:14.000 Well, that's kind of relevant and important because it goes into Putin's mindset as to why he views the world the way that he does.

01:45:22.000 Okay.

01:45:23.000 So obviously that's like super important because Ukraine used to be Russia.

01:45:28.000 Like they're all Russians, bro.

01:45:29.000 They're like little brother.

01:45:29.000 It's like a big brother.

01:45:30.000 I got a colleague, man.

01:45:32.000 Everybody in Ukraine speaks Russian.

01:45:35.000 People in Ukraine go to Russia and work and vice versa.

01:45:38.000 They are practically Russia.

01:45:40.000 Well, the border challenge where the fighting is over where he's taking back, they consider themselves Russians.

01:45:44.000 I think a lot of Americans, they think he's like trying to take over.

01:45:46.000 Right.

01:45:46.000 And a lot of people...

01:45:48.000 And a lot of people in Ukraine, the guy I spoke to, like, it's like 60-40 people for Russia.

01:45:54.000 They take Stanislavski.

01:45:55.000 Yeah, they're running out of people to even die in their army.

01:45:57.000 Yeah.

01:45:57.000 And Trump kept the war from going.

01:46:00.000 Like, I mean, even starting, because I think, like, there was a mutual respect between him and Putin.

01:46:03.000 Right.

01:46:04.000 And the thing about Trump, I think the reason why he was able to keep it, which we, real quick, something with Trump.

01:46:08.000 Actually, we got an ad to read about Trump, and I'm going to talk about this.

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01:46:16.000 Damn, I gotta read it.

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01:47:14.000 So we got to go ahead and get Trump in office.

01:47:16.000 You guys already know.

01:47:19.000 Yeah.

01:47:20.000 So, sorry.

01:47:21.000 So, what I was going to say was, back to the show.

01:47:24.000 Back to the show.

01:47:26.000 What was I going to say?

01:47:27.000 Oh, yeah.

01:47:29.000 Trump was never a fan of NATO, and I think that kind of kept Putin feeling safe, because he was like, alright, this is our enemy.

01:47:35.000 I think NATO's a whole fucking scam to keep the military-industrial complex going.

01:47:39.000 What's the purpose of NATO? Keep money going, flowing through other companies.

01:47:43.000 But Trump doesn't talk about that anymore.

01:47:45.000 He stopped talking about getting out of NATO. He's not pushing the same campaign he was.

01:47:48.000 He's still the best option, don't get me wrong, but I wish he was pushing.

01:47:51.000 He doesn't talk about NATO anymore.

01:47:52.000 He doesn't talk about building the wall.

01:47:54.000 It's not quite that same fire.

01:47:56.000 NATO was formed because of what Germany and Russia did back in the day.

01:48:00.000 You don't need that.

01:48:02.000 That's why an election is so important.

01:48:03.000 It's about relationships.

01:48:05.000 Two men, women sitting down talking things out.

01:48:09.000 We just need an enemy.

01:48:10.000 That's the problem because I don't know why we're not tighter with Russia.

01:48:13.000 Yeah.

01:48:13.000 And then China, we do so much trade with them.

01:48:15.000 It's like, why are these guys our adversaries?

01:48:16.000 They want Russia to be enemies.

01:48:17.000 That's what they want us to think.

01:48:18.000 They're enemies.

01:48:19.000 They're not.

01:48:19.000 Well, Trump was trying to be closer to Putin.

01:48:21.000 That's why they faked that whole Russian thing.

01:48:22.000 That was completely fake, that whole Russiagate, that whole thing.

01:48:25.000 Oh, yeah.

01:48:25.000 And that way it made it so Trump couldn't come close to Putin because whenever he talked to Putin, they'd be like, see, he's Putin's puppet and all this.

01:48:31.000 So it worked brilliantly.

01:48:32.000 So they weren't able to become allies because of that.

01:48:34.000 And then they said that the Hunter laptop is Russian disinformation.

01:48:39.000 51?

01:48:41.000 Those guys should have gone to jail.

01:48:43.000 Yeah, I was like, I find it hard to believe why anybody would vote for a Democrat.

01:48:47.000 This is all in plain sight.

01:48:50.000 They're just smoking mirrors, man.

01:48:51.000 They're just so good at, like, marketing and advertising and like y'all said, like, they're okay with saying wild shit and promising the world and not delivering because, like, that's just what they do.

01:49:00.000 You know, versus, like, as a Republican GOP, like, we're common sense and we understand, well, that doesn't make sense, like, whatever.

01:49:05.000 But with them, they can say all this radical shit and people are like, yeah, $25,000 for you to go ahead and buy a house and we're going to give you this, credits.

01:49:14.000 People want to hear what makes them feel good.

01:49:15.000 People don't want to hear the truth.

01:49:16.000 Like, you have a That was so true when you guys said that.

01:49:19.000 Yeah, like you have a friend and you think his wife's cheating on us, man.

01:49:24.000 I think your wife's cheating on him.

01:49:25.000 Don't you say that.

01:49:26.000 She's not cheating on me.

01:49:27.000 What the hell are you talking about?

01:49:28.000 You got a picture of her sucking some dude's dick and he's like, that's not her.

01:49:31.000 I wouldn't tell you that if it wasn't.

01:49:32.000 I didn't think it was true.

01:49:33.000 Dude, this is your wife.

01:49:34.000 She's got balls hanging out her mouth.

01:49:35.000 That's her.

01:49:36.000 That's not her, man.

01:49:37.000 I'm telling you.

01:49:37.000 I know my wife's mouth.

01:49:40.000 They don't hear the truth.

01:49:41.000 Are your guys' families right-leaning as well now?

01:49:44.000 Or are they still Democrats?

01:49:45.000 I'm not sure about my sister.

01:49:46.000 Yeah, I think my sister, she's damn.

01:49:49.000 Her husband's damn.

01:49:50.000 Me, Keith, Republican.

01:49:52.000 My family, my media family, my wife, my son.

01:49:55.000 Like the males in my family, they're Republicans.

01:49:57.000 On my dad's side?

01:49:58.000 Yeah.

01:49:59.000 Like on my brother's side, he's a media fan.

01:50:02.000 Republican.

01:50:03.000 What would you guys say was the biggest thing that made y'all say, no, we're going right now.

01:50:06.000 We're tired of this shit.

01:50:08.000 It's just, I just listen to both sides and like, it's nothing, being a Democrat has nothing to offer anybody that's black.

01:50:15.000 I mean, just look at our history.

01:50:17.000 If anything, a black person would be a far right conservative.

01:50:20.000 You should want your own land, your own business.

01:50:22.000 You don't even want to deal with the government.

01:50:25.000 But for some odd reason, they keep running for big government over and over and over.

01:50:28.000 It's like they don't get it.

01:50:29.000 It's like it's a capacity thing.

01:50:31.000 The turning point for me...

01:50:32.000 They ain't going to give you reparations, buddy.

01:50:34.000 You know what I mean?

01:50:35.000 That's what they're hoping for.

01:50:36.000 What are y'all thoughts on reparations, bro?

01:50:37.000 Because I get a lot of hot water over this.

01:50:39.000 I wish they would give it to them just so they'll shut up.

01:50:41.000 She'll be gone so quick.

01:50:43.000 Yeah.

01:50:44.000 And it's not going to change their life.

01:50:45.000 Because you look at everybody that wins the lottery...

01:50:48.000 I think it's like 98% of the people who hit the lottery did broke in like four years.

01:50:51.000 My question is this, because a lot of them are like, oh, I'm a descendant of a slave.

01:50:55.000 Like, how are you going to identify that and tie back the lineage and prove it?

01:50:58.000 And then how much would you give them?

01:50:59.000 Yeah.

01:51:00.000 What about their kids when the parents spend all the money?

01:51:02.000 The problem's not solved.

01:51:04.000 These pro-reparation people.

01:51:05.000 I asked a friend, how much do you want?

01:51:07.000 Just to make everybody on the same playing field, right?

01:51:09.000 Yeah.

01:51:09.000 He said, how much you want?

01:51:11.000 He said, I don't know.

01:51:11.000 I said, were you asking for reparations?

01:51:13.000 Tell me, give me a number.

01:51:14.000 He said, five million.

01:51:15.000 I said, bitch, you'll be a king.

01:51:19.000 How's that putting you on the level one?

01:51:21.000 You're going to be in the top 1% if they pay you five.

01:51:24.000 You want to be a king.

01:51:25.000 Yeah.

01:51:26.000 I was looking at him and I said, you was one dumb Negro.

01:51:30.000 And you know what's crazy about that whole talk about reparations?

01:51:33.000 It was so disingenuous.

01:51:35.000 It was never, they were never going to give black people reparations.

01:51:38.000 It's just a gimmick to keep them voting.

01:51:39.000 Keep them voting.

01:51:40.000 For Democrats.

01:51:41.000 Because that would bankrupt the country.

01:51:43.000 In San Francisco, they were acting like they were going to do it.

01:51:45.000 They passed some resolution like they were going to do it, but obviously they weren't.

01:51:49.000 The money was way too much.

01:51:50.000 They were saying they were going to give it.

01:51:51.000 It's obviously just talk for votes.

01:51:52.000 Yeah, it's just votes.

01:51:54.000 Question for you guys.

01:51:54.000 What do you guys think is the biggest blind spot for black people that vote?

01:52:00.000 What is the issue that you think that they're missing, that they keep fucking up and they're not realizing it's actually...

01:52:06.000 I think because of the trauma of being black in the history of this country, it keeps them from seeing the truth.

01:52:14.000 There's a bias that prevents them from seeing the truth.

01:52:17.000 Like for my mom, she was a Democrat, and she's been through so much trauma.

01:52:23.000 And then Democrats exploit that trauma in their messaging.

01:52:28.000 Like when Joe Biden went to that church and said, if you don't vote for Hillary, Trump gets back in office.

01:52:32.000 What did he say?

01:52:34.000 He said, we'll put y'all back in chains.

01:52:38.000 And the black church clapped!

01:52:40.000 So it's like that past trauma for all blacks in this country, they export that.

01:52:45.000 And because of that trauma, because of that bias, they can't see the proof.

01:52:50.000 Everybody has biases, and that's the one bias that's keeping black people from being successful, better off.

01:52:57.000 So you think the Democratic Party kind of hones in on that victim mindset?

01:53:01.000 Yeah, I think, man, when you as a slave, you can see the chains.

01:53:04.000 You want to take them off.

01:53:05.000 You can see them.

01:53:06.000 You know you're a slave.

01:53:07.000 But modern society, black people don't know they're a slave because they can't see the chains.

01:53:11.000 They're mentally enslaved.

01:53:12.000 They don't even know the chains.

01:53:14.000 Yeah, mentally, I think mental slave is so much more difficult on the black community because they don't know they're a slave.

01:53:23.000 You know, they don't see the change.

01:53:25.000 They're saying the Democrat is their savior and they haven't provided anything to them.

01:53:31.000 I'm trying to blame racism instead of the real problem.

01:53:34.000 They just tell me it's because people are racist while you're not successful.

01:53:36.000 That's not going to fix anything.

01:53:37.000 Yeah, when I was broke, the problem was me.

01:53:39.000 Wasn't no imaginary white man keeping me down.

01:53:42.000 Yeah, it was about my horrible choice.

01:53:44.000 My credit was screwed up or it was because of me.

01:53:48.000 When you guys were younger, like, did you guys feel that frustration?

01:53:50.000 Like, man, the man's holding me down.

01:53:52.000 It ruined, like, the first 25 years of my life.

01:53:54.000 Okay, so y'all, like, bought into that too, right?

01:53:56.000 I remember being young, like, having a chip on my...

01:53:58.000 I remember that too.

01:53:59.000 Reading the Malcolm X books.

01:54:01.000 Yeah, I was programmed.

01:54:02.000 Everybody's out to get me, and I believed it.

01:54:05.000 You weren't successful until you got rid of that.

01:54:06.000 Yep.

01:54:07.000 That's when I became successful, when I worked on myself.

01:54:11.000 You know what woke me up?

01:54:12.000 And I want to ask you guys this too.

01:54:13.000 So what woke me up was when I went to college and like all my classmates were white.

01:54:18.000 And they like, number one, they accepted me.

01:54:20.000 And then number two, they were intrigued by like my experiences and everything else like that.

01:54:25.000 But then like realizing that like they looked at money differently, right?

01:54:29.000 So I was like a Jordan collector back then.

01:54:31.000 Yeah.

01:54:31.000 Spending hundreds upon hundreds of dollars on these fucking sneakers.

01:54:34.000 Right.

01:54:34.000 And, you know, in nice fashion.

01:54:36.000 Yeah, same way.

01:54:37.000 I was buying True Religion jeans, Nike foam posits, Jordans, all this stupid shit.

01:54:41.000 Spending hundreds of dollars on this shit going broke to look fresh.

01:54:44.000 And then I know some of you guys are like, what the fuck?

01:54:46.000 Really?

01:54:47.000 My iron used to be dripped out?

01:54:47.000 I did.

01:54:49.000 But then I was like, then I see them and they're like, I'll never forget this shit.

01:54:52.000 They're like, dude, why do you spend so much money on clothes?

01:54:55.000 Just get some fucking Sperry's and some Nantucka shorts and you're fine.

01:54:59.000 And I'm like, damn, these white boys at Northeastern in Boston.

01:55:03.000 And then I'm looking at their parents are doctors, lawyers, successful, make a bunch of fucking money.

01:55:08.000 And I'm like, you don't need this shit to get bitches.

01:55:11.000 You know, my wife hates that about me.

01:55:13.000 I never go shopping.

01:55:15.000 My wardrobe is crazy.

01:55:17.000 All free clothes.

01:55:20.000 I dress like a bum too.

01:55:21.000 Now I do.

01:55:22.000 Now I'm a hardcore minimalist.

01:55:23.000 That was my wake up moment for me.

01:55:25.000 What was it for you guys?

01:55:29.000 I was...

01:55:30.000 There's so many things.

01:55:32.000 Yeah.

01:55:32.000 I just...

01:55:34.000 You know what?

01:55:35.000 Let me say this.

01:55:36.000 Okay, go ahead.

01:55:36.000 Let me say this.

01:55:38.000 It was like a cultural thing for me.

01:55:40.000 Yeah.

01:55:41.000 When I was growing up in middle school, junior high, I had black friends and I had white friends.

01:55:47.000 Damn, you're going in the direction I was going to go in.

01:55:49.000 Right?

01:55:50.000 I noticed in junior high school, middle school, White people and black people are different.

01:55:58.000 Yeah.

01:55:58.000 Black people, it's just...

01:56:00.000 I used to...

01:56:00.000 I remember I was hanging out with my black friends.

01:56:02.000 We said, let's go into 7-Eleven.

01:56:04.000 They went and started shopping.

01:56:05.000 I was looking like, what y'all doing?

01:56:09.000 They were all stealing.

01:56:09.000 Niggas taking the honey buns, right?

01:56:11.000 Yeah, they were stealing, stealing.

01:56:12.000 Snickers and stuff.

01:56:13.000 And then they ran out the store.

01:56:14.000 And then the guy was telling me to get out the store.

01:56:16.000 I was like, I ain't doing nothing.

01:56:17.000 But we got out the store.

01:56:19.000 They all eating and stuff.

01:56:20.000 I said, man, let me get one of them Snickers.

01:56:22.000 I mean, go back and get your old shit.

01:56:23.000 Yeah.

01:56:24.000 And it's like when I hung out with my white friends, they wasn't stealing.

01:56:28.000 They wasn't like getting in trouble.

01:56:29.000 They were like, they would invite me in my house.

01:56:31.000 Hey, my mom just cooked lunch.

01:56:33.000 You want something to eat?

01:56:34.000 It was like, it was a different experience.

01:56:36.000 And I noticed, I didn't notice it at the time, but all my black friends, they had no dad.

01:56:41.000 Yeah, it was just different.

01:56:43.000 They just had that mom or that grandma.

01:56:46.000 She was always stressed and yelling and shit.

01:56:48.000 That's the biggest problem right there is the no dad, I think.

01:56:51.000 All my white friends had a mom and a dad.

01:56:54.000 And a grandma in the damn house.

01:56:56.000 And it was just a cultural thing for me.

01:56:58.000 And I never bought into that whole victim mindset because my dad had two jobs.

01:57:02.000 Right?

01:57:03.000 And I just saw what he did.

01:57:05.000 And my older brother, he went in the military.

01:57:07.000 And I see all my black friends and it was always complaining about Yeah.

01:57:11.000 Then it rubbed off on me.

01:57:13.000 I would be complaining.

01:57:14.000 Like I said, my first 25 years...

01:57:16.000 So for you, you bought into it a little bit and poisoned you a bit.

01:57:18.000 Yeah, but not to an extent like Black America did, but it ruined the first 25 years of my life.

01:57:23.000 Yeah, no one's ever a successful Black America.

01:57:24.000 When did you wake up for you?

01:57:26.000 When did you have that epiphany moment?

01:57:28.000 Man, I always thought that all this shit was lies.

01:57:34.000 Tonight, it became true for me, and I had evidence to prove it.

01:57:38.000 It's just, when I came out as conservative, it's like, when we was popular on YouTube from the other channels, I mean, I've never got that much love from my fans until I turned conservative.

01:57:49.000 I mean, they actually, man, it is crazy.

01:57:52.000 When you come out and people give you a standing ovation.

01:57:55.000 You got way more love when you guys became conservative.

01:57:58.000 When we came out conservative, black people were wishing the worst for us.

01:58:02.000 15 minutes of fame is over.

01:58:04.000 They would put out comments like that and I was like, damn, we're doing our comment shows with nobody there.

01:58:10.000 Half the crowd was just It was not there.

01:58:13.000 And it was...

01:58:14.000 Trump supporters of that was the only people there.

01:58:16.000 And I was like, damn, we committed career suicide.

01:58:19.000 But then it kept growing.

01:58:20.000 How long did it take for your...

01:58:21.000 Oh, good question.

01:58:23.000 Six months.

01:58:24.000 That was quick.

01:58:25.000 And the crazy thing is, I was way more popular after I became conservative.

01:58:29.000 How many followers did you guys lose when you guys did the first transition?

01:58:32.000 Because obviously, people get mad, they cry.

01:58:35.000 You said you lost $10,000 in a day.

01:58:37.000 What did y'all lose overall, you would say?

01:58:39.000 We probably lost like YouTube and everything.

01:58:41.000 We probably lost about 40-50,000 followers that first week.

01:58:45.000 Yeah.

01:58:45.000 And it was just that we wasn't growing.

01:58:47.000 It was just steadily falling.

01:58:48.000 You go up like this.

01:58:49.000 It was like this.

01:58:49.000 Yeah.

01:58:50.000 Yeah, because you're gaining new because of your new views.

01:58:53.000 Yeah.

01:58:53.000 And then it just kind of plateaued out and we stopped losing people and it started growing up again.

01:58:58.000 But it took off.

01:58:59.000 It went up like Bitcoin.

01:59:00.000 Yeah.

01:59:01.000 What would you say?

01:59:02.000 So you lost like cumulatively speaking like what?

01:59:05.000 You think 100,000 maybe?

01:59:06.000 I'd probably say overall half our audience.

01:59:09.000 Wow!

01:59:10.000 Because when you went to our shows, everybody was over the age of 40.

01:59:15.000 Okay, so it might have not shown on the subscribers, but they just are subscribed.

01:59:19.000 They just tune you out.

01:59:20.000 Yeah, they just don't show up.

01:59:22.000 Okay.

01:59:23.000 So, 100,000 maybe, numbers-wise, but you guys actually predicted 50% of your audience that was gone.

01:59:28.000 We probably lost like, we probably, probably 500 to a mil.

01:59:31.000 And it took six months to rebound.

01:59:32.000 That's fast, though.

01:59:33.000 A lot of people take, it takes them years to come back.

01:59:36.000 Yeah.

01:59:36.000 But when we went into politics, man, it was COVID. So everybody was home so fast.

01:59:42.000 It was crazy.

01:59:43.000 Yeah.

01:59:44.000 And then it was an election year too.

01:59:46.000 Yeah.

01:59:47.000 And then we went to Nashville, Tennessee, man.

01:59:49.000 And the shows were selling.

01:59:51.000 I was like, damn, we never sold out.

01:59:53.000 We'll sell out a show.

01:59:54.000 Yeah.

01:59:55.000 But we're still doing two, three, four, five shows.

01:59:57.000 Nice.

01:59:58.000 Like before, we can't win in the politics.

02:00:00.000 That's what's crazy.

02:00:01.000 We're going to a town where we do two shows, a Friday night and a Saturday night.

02:00:04.000 When we came out as conservatives, we'd do two shows Friday, two shows Saturday.

02:00:09.000 Sometimes we'd do a show on a Sunday.

02:00:11.000 Sometimes two shows on a Sunday.

02:00:13.000 Sometimes we would do three shows in a day.

02:00:16.000 Sold out.

02:00:18.000 We'd go out to our cross.

02:00:19.000 I don't even recognize these people.

02:00:21.000 Wow.

02:00:22.000 And I thought they wasn't going to like me because it was a totally different fan base.

02:00:25.000 But they love us.

02:00:27.000 I mean, they love us so much.

02:00:29.000 Dude, we have old white men and wives coming up.

02:00:32.000 Hey, man, let me tell you what.

02:00:34.000 I want to watch you fuck my wife.

02:00:37.000 Did you?

02:00:38.000 No, my wife was there.

02:00:42.000 I love how you answered it.

02:00:44.000 I could have done it.

02:00:45.000 I was like, man, I want to, but she's here!

02:00:47.000 Honey, can I? Was the wife hot?

02:00:50.000 Yeah, we get a lot of that.

02:00:55.000 Like, white cows are like, they're into that cuck shit.

02:00:59.000 They invented that shit.

02:01:01.000 Yeah, a black dude having sex with a white woman?

02:01:06.000 White Republicans invented that shit.

02:01:10.000 What are y'all thoughts on Diddy since we're on this topic anyway?

02:01:12.000 Diddy?

02:01:13.000 Yeah.

02:01:14.000 That dude's scandalous.

02:01:15.000 Diddy shit.

02:01:16.000 Seems like he's scandalous.

02:01:17.000 Yeah.

02:01:18.000 You know what really works?

02:01:19.000 I heard stories about him before that even went down.

02:01:22.000 I remember I was with my ex-wife and they saw him at Elevator.

02:01:25.000 He was cussing at this girl, pulling about her and all that shit.

02:01:29.000 Oh, really?

02:01:30.000 Mm-hmm.

02:01:31.000 He had stories about R. Kelly.

02:01:32.000 He had stories about R. Kelly before that shit came.

02:01:34.000 Yeah.

02:01:35.000 Like, his ex-wife.

02:01:36.000 Yeah.

02:01:37.000 You know what is the biggest red flag to me?

02:01:39.000 Not one celebrity has come out to defend them.

02:01:42.000 Not one person has come out to defend them.

02:01:44.000 That's when I was like, holy shit.

02:01:45.000 They're just staying away from it.

02:01:47.000 They're not even talking about it.

02:01:48.000 They don't get dragged into it.

02:01:50.000 But my wife, my ex-wife, that black woman used to beat my ass...

02:01:54.000 I remember when I met her.

02:01:55.000 Full circle.

02:01:56.000 She went to a R. Kelly concert.

02:01:59.000 Yeah.

02:01:59.000 He invited her backstage, gave her a jar of honey.

02:02:02.000 That's when he hit Honey Love.

02:02:04.000 Okay.

02:02:05.000 Gave her a jar of honey.

02:02:06.000 She was 14.

02:02:07.000 She was all kissing on her, sucking on her nipples and everything.

02:02:10.000 Yeah.

02:02:12.000 She told me that.

02:02:13.000 A little old for R. Kelly.

02:02:20.000 Quarter of the night.

02:02:22.000 Holy shit.

02:02:24.000 Yeah, man.

02:02:24.000 But he likes younger girls.

02:02:26.000 Yeah, he likes young girls.

02:02:27.000 He's a pedophile.

02:02:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:02:28.000 I mean, that's why they got him federally, bro, because he was like flying them around and shit and, you know, interstate commerce.

02:02:33.000 That's it, man.

02:02:34.000 You know, just like Epstein, just the black version, right?

02:02:36.000 Yeah, that's what he was known for.

02:02:39.000 I actually saw that video by accident.

02:02:42.000 Oh, you saw it?

02:02:42.000 Yeah, I saw the accident.

02:02:44.000 You remember LimeWire?

02:02:45.000 You could download free music.

02:02:46.000 I was downloading R. Kelly music.

02:02:48.000 And they used to troll you, yeah.

02:02:51.000 You would think you're getting bump and grind, but you got the wrong bump and grind.

02:02:54.000 Yeah, so I would go to the band.

02:02:55.000 I'd say, oh man, that's R. Kelly.

02:02:57.000 I'd say, man.

02:02:58.000 Man, what is he doing?

02:03:01.000 Oh, man!

02:03:01.000 He pissed on that bitch!

02:03:03.000 It was funny that dude, I saw it.

02:03:05.000 He couldn't even get it up.

02:03:06.000 So he said, fuck, I'll just piss on you.

02:03:08.000 That's actually probably smart.

02:03:09.000 He's embarrassing.

02:03:10.000 I'm going to piss on her instead.

02:03:13.000 I don't get that.

02:03:14.000 What women do in Canada?

02:03:15.000 You know what I've noticed in these RBI stars?

02:03:17.000 Because there's a couple of them that do this weird shit.

02:03:19.000 They just get laid so much that they're just like, let me see how badly I could degrade some of these bitches.

02:03:24.000 That's what they be doing, bro.

02:03:25.000 It's just weird.

02:03:26.000 I didn't bust it nuts on this guy.

02:03:28.000 I'm just going to piss on the bitch.

02:03:30.000 Power corrupts people, man.

02:03:32.000 It does, bro.

02:03:32.000 It's fucking wild, man.

02:03:35.000 But damn, how many tests we got?

02:03:36.000 I could read those and then we'll close out, man.

02:03:39.000 Do you feel like fame changed you guys at all?

02:03:41.000 Of course, a little bit.

02:03:43.000 My bank account, yeah, but I'm still the same person.

02:03:46.000 Yeah, you guys seem super chill.

02:03:47.000 Now you can just scream a little bit loud and say, fuck, do what the fuck you want.

02:03:51.000 But some people you see turns into total douchebags.

02:03:54.000 Do you know what the thing is?

02:03:56.000 They always douchebags.

02:04:00.000 Yeah.

02:04:01.000 When you look at somebody who drinks, they turn into an asshole, they're really an asshole.

02:04:04.000 Yeah.

02:04:05.000 It just amplifies where you are.

02:04:06.000 The fame allows them to get away with it when people still kiss in their ass or some people still kiss in their ass.

02:04:10.000 Yep.

02:04:11.000 But when those guys fall, then everyone deserts them.

02:04:13.000 Right.

02:04:13.000 Yep.

02:04:13.000 Like we did you right now.

02:04:15.000 Exactly.

02:04:15.000 Because I guess people had access to grind with him and didn't like him.

02:04:18.000 Because that's crazy to me that no one has come to his defense.

02:04:21.000 Right.

02:04:21.000 Yeah.

02:04:22.000 I could do some fucked up shit.

02:04:22.000 I think my friends would still back me up.

02:04:24.000 Yeah.

02:04:25.000 Yeah.

02:04:25.000 As loyal friends, they're like, nah, he's innocent.

02:04:27.000 Yeah.

02:04:28.000 It's on camera.

02:04:30.000 So I'll go through these real quick.

02:04:32.000 It goes, KRT says, we got a show for y'all.

02:04:35.000 Goddamn good show.

02:04:37.000 These conversations made me bring back early YouTube Hodge twins memories with them wild stories.

02:04:41.000 Yeah, you guys better go subscribe to their Conservative Twins channel.

02:04:43.000 WFNFW Hodge was asked Kevin about the Middle Eastern girlfriend he had that threatened the barracks he was at.

02:04:47.000 Oh, that was my girlfriend.

02:04:48.000 That was his girlfriend.

02:04:49.000 Okay.

02:04:50.000 He was dating a Middle Eastern girl.

02:04:51.000 He was dating the crazy ones.

02:04:52.000 That's my girl.

02:04:53.000 Let me tell the story.

02:04:55.000 Let me tell the story, man.

02:04:58.000 I was dating this girl.

02:04:58.000 She's from Kuwait.

02:05:00.000 She's from Iraq.

02:05:03.000 Some of them are going to have questions for y'all.

02:05:05.000 You guys are okay with time?

02:05:06.000 Sure, sure, sure.

02:05:08.000 Like the goddamn video.

02:05:09.000 You guys better go follow them on their channel, Conservative Twins.

02:05:13.000 And the Rumble.

02:05:14.000 Actually, because they're trying to build their Rumble up.

02:05:15.000 You guys have some controversial views on them boys.

02:05:18.000 So you guys better go fucking check them out on Rumble.

02:05:22.000 Long story short, we got into a fight.

02:05:26.000 And she said, I'm going to blow your fucking birds up.

02:05:29.000 I bleed a bit.

02:05:30.000 What year is this now?

02:05:31.000 No time it is after 9-11.

02:05:33.000 Yeah, it was.

02:05:34.000 No, no, no.

02:05:35.000 No, it was back when I was 19, 20 years old.

02:05:38.000 Oh, so early 90s.

02:05:39.000 I was young.

02:05:40.000 She said she's going to blow the birds up.

02:05:43.000 That's wild, bro.

02:05:44.000 Typical of a damn bitch from Iraq.

02:05:46.000 She said she's going to blow that bitch up.

02:05:49.000 I'm gonna blow that bitch up.

02:05:50.000 I know people.

02:05:51.000 I know people.

02:05:53.000 Wow.

02:05:54.000 Did you report it to anybody who just broke up with her?

02:05:57.000 I just stopped talking to her, bitch.

02:05:58.000 You just stopped talking to her?

02:05:59.000 Yeah, I just stopped talking to her.

02:05:59.000 What'd you do that made her say, like, go crazy?

02:06:01.000 I tried crazy bitches when I was at that age.

02:06:03.000 I don't know what it was.

02:06:04.000 Oh, I didn't want to give her money.

02:06:06.000 Yeah, fuck that.

02:06:08.000 Screw that.

02:06:11.000 We used to be some cucks.

02:06:13.000 Durag Myron says, Yo, Kevin, can you do the rocket chair intro for the one time, please?

02:06:18.000 Man, I knew somebody was going to ask that shit.

02:06:20.000 And then he goes, Yeah, fuck out the way!

02:06:29.000 All this damn cord action.

02:06:32.000 Remember how they do that?

02:06:34.000 It's been so long, man.

02:06:36.000 My shoulder's getting fucked up he was doing that shit.

02:06:38.000 Really?

02:06:38.000 I was having shoulder pain.

02:06:40.000 I think it's usually like...

02:06:41.000 Give me some room.

02:06:43.000 I'll be like...

02:06:46.000 Take action too.

02:06:47.000 Subscribe.

02:06:47.000 Okay.

02:06:48.000 We got here.

02:06:49.000 Do you like mine again?

02:06:50.000 No.

02:06:51.000 No, we got that one.

02:06:52.000 Bro, this might be impossible.

02:06:54.000 We need an FNF Hot Swins and Tate's collab.

02:06:57.000 That shit will be the funniest podcast, bro.

02:06:59.000 When the tapes come back to the United States or when they're able to leave, they're going to come.

02:07:03.000 Don't worry, guys.

02:07:04.000 I'll make that happen.

02:07:05.000 This might be impossible because they don't like the U.S., but they said they'll come to Miami.

02:07:09.000 Yeah, he's scared they're going to get his ass.

02:07:10.000 Yeah.

02:07:11.000 No, I know.

02:07:11.000 We're trying to get him everywhere, though.

02:07:13.000 With him, bro, he...

02:07:14.000 Because when you live in Eastern Europe as long as they have, bro, like, you come to the United States, it's a fucking shock.

02:07:19.000 Like, they left when they were, like, kids, like, at 11.

02:07:22.000 And they've been, like, living in UK. Then they went to Eastern...

02:07:25.000 They've been in...

02:07:26.000 They left the UK in, like, 2010.

02:07:29.000 And then they've been in Romania the whole time.

02:07:30.000 And I've been out there a few times in Romania.

02:07:32.000 Clean, safe, beautiful, no crime.

02:07:34.000 The girls are attractive, no fat people.

02:07:37.000 So, like, I could see...

02:07:38.000 It's like a fitness atmosphere.

02:07:39.000 It's like Colombia.

02:07:41.000 Yeah, less prostitutes.

02:07:44.000 And way safer.

02:07:46.000 No fucking crime in Romania, bro.

02:07:48.000 There's no crime.

02:07:48.000 So he hates America?

02:07:49.000 Because the crime is underground and it's like with each other.

02:07:52.000 Mob shit, but it's like with each other.

02:07:55.000 It's all extorting niggas and shit and everyone pays.

02:07:58.000 So he doesn't like the United States?

02:07:59.000 Nah, he's not a fan.

02:08:00.000 And I don't blame him because it's like, bro, you came from, you lived in the US when you were a kid.

02:08:05.000 Then you leave for like 20, 30 years.

02:08:08.000 And then you come back and all you see is OF thoughts, fat people everywhere, crime everywhere, degenerate culture.

02:08:15.000 You know what I mean?

02:08:15.000 It's like a shock.

02:08:16.000 It's just like, what the fuck?

02:08:17.000 And then like, you know, I was in Romania for a month.

02:08:19.000 I came back to America and I was even kind of like, oh shit.

02:08:22.000 I forgot seeing all the fat people at the airport again.

02:08:24.000 I was like, oh, what the hell?

02:08:25.000 Because there's no fat people in Romania, bro.

02:08:27.000 I was there for a month.

02:08:28.000 I saw three fat people.

02:08:30.000 Are they conservative politically?

02:08:31.000 Oh yeah, it's the biggest Christian.

02:08:34.000 I think they have the most churches in the world, maybe?

02:08:37.000 They have some crazy Christian stat.

02:08:42.000 They're not orthodox, very religious.

02:08:44.000 A lot of Americans don't know, man.

02:08:45.000 There's actually better places to live.

02:08:47.000 Look at that...

02:08:48.000 Interview he did with Putin and he exposed how much they're paying for groceries over there and how people are living.

02:08:54.000 Everybody's no crime.

02:08:55.000 They're actually living better lives over in Russia right now than a lot of Americans are living here in the United States.

02:09:00.000 And that's crazy.

02:09:01.000 And they say this is the greatest country on the planet.

02:09:02.000 Fifth strongest economy in the world right now, I think, is Russia, despite all the sanctions and everything.

02:09:06.000 But yeah, dude, I could see why they don't like it.

02:09:09.000 Because yeah, you haven't been in America for a while, then you come back and see all these fat people.

02:09:13.000 So you like their belt better than Romania?

02:09:15.000 Romania was nice.

02:09:15.000 I liked it a lot.

02:09:16.000 I could see why they're there.

02:09:17.000 I could definitely see that.

02:09:19.000 The safety is huge, bro.

02:09:20.000 What's the taxes like over there?

02:09:23.000 I mean, but it's so cheap to live there.

02:09:25.000 Right.

02:09:25.000 Bro, everything is cheap as fuck.

02:09:27.000 That's the crazy thing about it.

02:09:28.000 It's just a better living outside of America.

02:09:29.000 When I was there, one US dollars, five, or Romanian dollars, roughly.

02:09:33.000 Wow.

02:09:34.000 It was like one of five.

02:09:36.000 Yeah.

02:09:36.000 Yeah, and they already got, and they got money too.

02:09:38.000 Yeah.

02:09:38.000 So that money goes far, bro.

02:09:40.000 Right.

02:09:40.000 So it's, the one thing I remember is like the girls were attractive and they weren't fat.

02:09:45.000 That's what I remember vividly.

02:09:47.000 And I was like, wow.

02:09:48.000 Like, then I came back to America.

02:09:49.000 I was like shocked.

02:09:49.000 It was only a month.

02:09:51.000 Latino, right?

02:09:52.000 Uh, like Ukrainians.

02:09:54.000 Okay.

02:09:54.000 Like, like Ukrainians, Eastern, typically Eastern European, with a little bit more Latina flair, like, cause a lot of them are brunettes too.

02:10:00.000 You know what I mean?

02:10:01.000 So, yeah.

02:10:03.000 Yeah, and they act like women, bro.

02:10:05.000 And you come here, nigga, what you want?

02:10:07.000 That's all the feminism stuff here in the States.

02:10:09.000 Yeah.

02:10:10.000 Yeah, that's how bad the Democrats have ruined, liberals have ruined America.

02:10:14.000 They do, bro.

02:10:15.000 They're not liberals, progressives.

02:10:20.000 Feminism, bro, is I think the biggest cancer that's ruined everything because everything started with feminism, bro.

02:10:27.000 Because all the other isms and all the other progressive bullshit came from there, bro.

02:10:33.000 That was the Trojan horse.

02:10:35.000 And you know what's funny?

02:10:36.000 The reason why, like, people were so on for it was, like, so that, like, the men think, oh, yeah, birth control, we don't got to deal with kids.

02:10:41.000 Oh, yeah, now they're going to fuck us.

02:10:42.000 Yeah, we're going to give them complete, like, reign on, you know, their sexual autonomy.

02:10:46.000 Well, guess what happens when you do that?

02:10:47.000 They fucked the best guys.

02:10:49.000 Yeah.

02:10:49.000 You niggas incel yourselves.

02:10:51.000 Yeah.

02:10:52.000 Stupid.

02:10:52.000 Exactly, yeah.

02:10:53.000 They ain't going to bang you, random niggas.

02:10:54.000 Now they can go ahead and get the chad.

02:10:56.000 Yeah.

02:10:57.000 Because they can.

02:10:58.000 Right.

02:10:58.000 Like, arranged marriages, if anything, like, that actually kept things stable.

02:11:01.000 Right, right.

02:11:02.000 You know, like, and this is a thing on, like, Middle Eastern countries.

02:11:05.000 They said, like, because in Middle Eastern countries, you can have, like, multiple wives.

02:11:08.000 It's less stabilized there because, like, the top guys have all the fucking women.

02:11:12.000 And then, like, the other guys, like, one of the biggest things that, like, keeps men, like, controlled and, like, from going crazy is a woman and getting married and shit like that.

02:11:21.000 Monogamy, like, creates more stability, social stability in general.

02:11:26.000 And a lot of Muslim countries are polygamous, right?

02:11:28.000 Right.

02:11:28.000 So that's what creates the problems.

02:11:30.000 That's why these people are going to be blowing themselves up, to be honest.

02:11:32.000 No pussy.

02:11:35.000 Yeah, makes sense.

02:11:36.000 I wonder if the blacks are going to clip that and say that I'm racist still.

02:11:40.000 Okay.

02:11:41.000 Bro, this might be impossible.

02:11:42.000 We need...

02:11:43.000 Oh, no.

02:11:44.000 Got that one.

02:11:44.000 Easy donated from Easy.

02:11:45.000 Thank you so much.

02:11:46.000 I think that's it.

02:11:48.000 Yo, so I'll give y'all the last word, man.

02:11:52.000 What's on y'all minds?

02:11:53.000 Did you guys like this interview?

02:11:54.000 Yeah, it was great.

02:11:56.000 Don't lie, man.

02:11:56.000 Y'all niggas.

02:11:57.000 You know what?

02:11:57.000 This is cool, man.

02:11:58.000 You know when I have an interview with somebody, man, it's like what makes an interview really good is like people are open and honest.

02:12:07.000 It goes a long way when you're doing a podcast.

02:12:09.000 It's hard to talk to somebody that's not being honest, not being open.

02:12:14.000 And they're like scared of walking on eggshells?

02:12:16.000 And you have to carry the conversation.

02:12:16.000 And they're walking on eggshells and scared?

02:12:18.000 I kind of want to ask this, but you guys don't have to ask this.

02:12:21.000 Who's your worst guest?

02:12:23.000 Worst guest?

02:12:25.000 I would say the Omni-Liberal.

02:12:28.000 Destiny?

02:12:28.000 Really?

02:12:29.000 He's not genuine at all.

02:12:32.000 Were you arguing the whole time?

02:12:35.000 I think he's a very smart guy, but he's not honest at all.

02:12:37.000 You can't have a conversation with somebody who wants to win.

02:12:41.000 He's smart in manipulating people that follow him, but he's not a smart guy.

02:12:45.000 He's actually a fucking idiot.

02:12:48.000 He's a contrarian by nature.

02:12:50.000 That's like what he does is like debate and argue.

02:12:52.000 I get along with him.

02:12:53.000 We have a respectful relationship.

02:12:54.000 He's in Miami.

02:12:55.000 We have a respectful relationship.

02:12:56.000 We disagree on everything though, but it's crazy.

02:12:58.000 He's not genuine.

02:12:58.000 I don't like him.

02:13:00.000 I can see he's fake.

02:13:01.000 Right.

02:13:01.000 He's not genuine.

02:13:02.000 You can't have honest.

02:13:02.000 Someone that's open and honest.

02:13:04.000 What did he lie about?

02:13:05.000 Didn't that interview go for a while?

02:13:06.000 Weren't y'all talking to him for like two, three hours?

02:13:07.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:13:08.000 What I find is if someone's being honest, no matter what your political views are, y'all gonna agree on 50-50.

02:13:14.000 When you sit down with somebody that's dishonest, you never agree on anything.

02:13:18.000 What was he lying about?

02:13:19.000 Because I didn't see that interview.

02:13:20.000 I'm gonna go back and watch it now.

02:13:21.000 I was talking to him about Russia, and I was like, he said the reason why Putin invaded because he's a maniac and he's a killer and he's an asshole.

02:13:28.000 I was like, no, he invaded because he's trying to protect his borders.

02:13:31.000 And he said that's bullshit and that's a lie.

02:13:34.000 I asked him what a woman is, and he couldn't answer it.

02:13:37.000 Are you serious?

02:13:38.000 Yeah, he did.

02:13:39.000 You ask him, next time you're having a show, ask him what a woman is.

02:13:43.000 He says it's too complicated.

02:13:45.000 That's what he said.

02:13:45.000 Too complicated.

02:13:46.000 Not that fucking complicated.

02:13:47.000 Yeah.

02:13:49.000 Did he argue with y'all the whole time?

02:13:52.000 No, he tried to go there.

02:13:54.000 He raised his voice and he started screaming.

02:13:56.000 And we said, okay, okay, calm the hell down.

02:13:58.000 Stop conflating shit.

02:13:59.000 We was already in a happy mood because I watched some of his videos and he tends to start screaming.

02:14:04.000 Yeah, but when you sit down debating somebody, especially in today's climate, they're not actually trying to find solutions.

02:14:11.000 No.

02:14:11.000 He's just trying to look like he's winning the argument.

02:14:15.000 He doesn't care about the proof.

02:14:17.000 He just wants to give off the facade.

02:14:19.000 I'm the smartest guy and I won this argument.

02:14:21.000 He doesn't care what the actual proof is.

02:14:23.000 He's not trying to have a discussion.

02:14:24.000 Here's the other effect if he's trying to beat you.

02:14:26.000 It doesn't matter whether it's games, lies.

02:14:28.000 I don't think we agreed on anything.

02:14:30.000 Yeah.

02:14:31.000 And for him to call himself omni-liberal...

02:14:33.000 Well, that makes sense.

02:14:33.000 He's very left, you know, so...

02:14:36.000 He's not even liberal.

02:14:37.000 He's a fucking progressive.

02:14:38.000 He's not honest, though.

02:14:39.000 He doesn't try to argue any, like, real points.

02:14:41.000 He's just trying to win arguments.

02:14:42.000 And then he comes out and says that Trump deserved being almost assassinated.

02:14:45.000 That's crazy.

02:14:46.000 That was actually crazy.

02:14:47.000 He laughed at the guy that...

02:14:47.000 And he didn't bend on that.

02:14:49.000 Oh, y'all had him right after the assassination.

02:14:51.000 This was, like, when he was going crazy on Twitter.

02:14:53.000 Yeah, we had him before, before.

02:14:55.000 But when I saw him say that, he said Trump was...

02:14:58.000 He deserved, you know, what happened to him.

02:15:01.000 Yeah, he laughed at that firefighter.

02:15:03.000 He had his kids there with him.

02:15:04.000 Yeah, he said he deserved it.

02:15:06.000 He was going so crazy on Twitter, I even had to tweet.

02:15:09.000 I was like, look...

02:15:11.000 I don't like Biden, but if anybody fucking touches their hair on that old man's head, you deserve...

02:15:17.000 You're not going to fucking attack our politicians, bro.

02:15:19.000 I don't care if they're far...

02:15:20.000 I could hate you.

02:15:21.000 I don't even hate politicians.

02:15:22.000 I just dislike them.

02:15:23.000 If anyone's going to fucking...

02:15:24.000 Even Kamala, you fucking touch your hair on her head, bro.

02:15:27.000 We're coming after you.

02:15:27.000 This is America.

02:15:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:15:30.000 You're not going to hurt our politicians, regardless of where they stand.

02:15:33.000 But I'm telling you, these leftists are crazy, bro.

02:15:36.000 They're okay with violence.

02:15:37.000 If someone hurt Joe Biden, his son, or anybody's family, I was like, man, that is messed up.

02:15:41.000 Yeah.

02:15:41.000 Well, I'll say it was a random fan that got killed that he was laughing at.

02:15:44.000 That's what really bothered me.

02:15:45.000 Yeah.

02:15:46.000 Bro, look, this is why I've said it before.

02:15:48.000 I'll say it again, bro.

02:15:49.000 Like, leftists are just naturally fucking violent, bro.

02:15:51.000 Like, these Palestinian crazy motherfuckers burning flags and shit like that.

02:15:54.000 Like, when conservatives protest, they don't protest as much.

02:15:57.000 But, like, they're not over here, like, burning places down, going crazy, all this other shit.

02:16:01.000 It's always the crazy leftists.

02:16:02.000 Antifa, burning buildings down, George Floyd protests, BLM. Like, these guys are domestic terrorists, bro.

02:16:07.000 That's literally the definition of domestic terrorism.

02:16:09.000 Yeah, you don't see conservatives doing that because I think, you know, regardless of who's in office, I'm going to be successful.

02:16:15.000 Yes.

02:16:16.000 You know, and I think for people on the left, to them, if they don't have that candidate, then life is going to get worse and they have absolutely no hope.

02:16:24.000 A lot of these people that vote Democrat, they don't understand that their life is in their hands and it's not a politician.

02:16:30.000 Yeah.

02:16:31.000 Yeah.

02:16:31.000 Politician doesn't do too much for us.

02:16:33.000 Not at all.

02:16:33.000 I'm successful when Obama was in.

02:16:36.000 I'm successful when Trump's in.

02:16:37.000 I'm successful when Biden's in.

02:16:39.000 Regardless who's in.

02:16:40.000 Which is precisely why.

02:16:41.000 Let me ask you guys this.

02:16:42.000 Precisely why.

02:16:43.000 Like for me voting, I think the most important topic, at least for this election for me, is foreign affairs.

02:16:47.000 What do you guys think is the most important topic?

02:16:49.000 You talked me into that foreign affairs.

02:16:50.000 You did foreign affairs too?

02:16:51.000 It affects everything.

02:16:52.000 Yeah.

02:16:52.000 It affects the economy.

02:16:53.000 We had a discussion yesterday, guys.

02:16:54.000 Our interview is going to drop soon, probably next week.

02:16:56.000 Yeah, it fixed everything.

02:16:57.000 That's why we have inflation.

02:16:58.000 Just think about it.

02:17:00.000 I think it really stems from foreign affairs.

02:17:02.000 A lot of Americans say inflation, but I do think foreign affairs is what causes it.

02:17:05.000 Yeah, foreign affairs.

02:17:06.000 Inflation's big too, especially because we're all doing a little better, but some of these people that are getting by on some small salaries, when you look at prices, I couldn't imagine.

02:17:13.000 That whole conflict in Russia.

02:17:14.000 Even I look at these prices, and I'm doing well.

02:17:16.000 I couldn't imagine.

02:17:16.000 And that's the point of a discussion, right?

02:17:18.000 See, I was able to change your mind on that.

02:17:19.000 You changed my mind because I learned from you guys, Democrats run on emotion.

02:17:23.000 I'm like, Yeah, I would say smoke and mirrors, but what do smoke and mirrors do?

02:17:27.000 Affect their fucking emotions and y'all are right.

02:17:28.000 Yeah, just look at Joe Biden since he's become president.

02:17:31.000 If Trump's in office, there's no war in Ukraine between Russia.

02:17:35.000 We don't have this inflation right now because the majority of the inflation was from that war in Russia.

02:17:41.000 Yeah.

02:17:42.000 If Trump's in office, a lot of people will still be alive from that Afghanistan pullout and a lot of Ukrainians and Russians will still be alive if Trump was in office.

02:17:50.000 The thing I liked about Trump is he made peace with people that we hated.

02:17:55.000 One thing that I'll give him credit for.

02:17:57.000 Yo, like Obama, when he left office, like I remember, was Trump or somebody said this, what was one of Obama's biggest challenges when he was in office was North Korea.

02:18:07.000 What does Trump do?

02:18:09.000 He actually flew in and met him.

02:18:11.000 No other president did that.

02:18:12.000 And walked into North Korea.

02:18:13.000 Yeah.

02:18:14.000 That was crazy.

02:18:14.000 That's crazy.

02:18:15.000 You know what I mean?

02:18:16.000 But they'll go ahead and say, oh, that's not a big deal or whatever.

02:18:18.000 That's a huge deal.

02:18:19.000 They bashed him for that instead.

02:18:20.000 They attacked him for that.

02:18:21.000 They attacked him for that.

02:18:21.000 He was saying he was going to start a war with Rocket Man because Trump was mocking him.

02:18:25.000 He called him Rocket Man.

02:18:26.000 Yeah.

02:18:26.000 I think he gained respect from him because they found him funny.

02:18:30.000 My mind works.

02:18:31.000 He liked that shit.

02:18:32.000 Damn, he called me Rocket Man.

02:18:35.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:18:36.000 Yeah.

02:18:37.000 You know, like, shit like that's funny.

02:18:38.000 I think people like Putin and people like Kim Jong-un, like, they respect that.

02:18:42.000 You know what I mean?

02:18:43.000 Yeah.

02:18:43.000 Like, because he's not a politician, so he's going to just call like it is.

02:18:46.000 And like, no, you're fucking funny.

02:18:47.000 I like you.

02:18:47.000 And then they met.

02:18:48.000 And I think that's like a huge W, but people always, like, undermine that.

02:18:51.000 They try to say, oh, you had collusions with Russia, whatever.

02:18:53.000 Like, they always try to undermine all of his accomplishments.

02:18:56.000 And I think, you know, even though I don't like Israel, I think him moving the embassy or the capital to Jerusalem, like, that, like, it kind of gave...

02:19:07.000 Look, you gotta play the game when you deal with them, right?

02:19:09.000 So it's like, okay, here's like an olive branch so you guys don't fucking create more problems.

02:19:13.000 Right.

02:19:13.000 You know what I mean?

02:19:13.000 Right.

02:19:14.000 So, though it sucks, but like, he did something for them, right?

02:19:17.000 So, I think from a foreign policy perspective, he kept us out of wars, which is big enough.

02:19:22.000 Yeah.

02:19:22.000 You know, versus these guys coming and they can't control.

02:19:24.000 That's the most important thing a president can do is keep us out of wars because that war is going to affect our economy, everything.

02:19:28.000 Gas prices.

02:19:29.000 Yeah, and that's the only thing, like, because I agree with y'all.

02:19:33.000 Everything is on us.

02:19:34.000 That's why people like to vote right, because it's on you.

02:19:36.000 Limited government.

02:19:37.000 It's still on you, yeah.

02:19:38.000 Lower taxes, it's on you to be successful.

02:19:40.000 But, like, when it comes to foreign policy, we can't control it.

02:19:42.000 We can't do shit.

02:19:43.000 Yeah, I find it crazy.

02:19:44.000 They say they're going to fix everything after the Democrats have been in office for, like, what, the last 12 out of 16 years?

02:19:49.000 Yeah.

02:19:49.000 They keep saying it's Trump's fault because he was in office for four years.

02:19:52.000 Right.

02:19:53.000 It's crazy.

02:19:54.000 They could fix it right now if they were going to fix it.

02:19:55.000 Yeah.

02:19:57.000 So Destiny's your worst guest.

02:19:59.000 Destiny was your worst guest.

02:20:00.000 Oh, by far.

02:20:02.000 Who's second?

02:20:03.000 I think it's a long way from Destiny.

02:20:07.000 He was the worst.

02:20:09.000 I apologize.

02:20:10.000 I think I passed that to the producer.

02:20:12.000 I apologize.

02:20:14.000 He was trying to be on a show.

02:20:15.000 I don't want to do your show.

02:20:16.000 JFK was one of the best.

02:20:20.000 RFK. Okay.

02:20:21.000 PBD was good.

02:20:22.000 We had a lot of good guests.

02:20:23.000 I don't say anybody else was bad as him.

02:20:26.000 Did y'all talk?

02:20:27.000 I didn't know.

02:20:28.000 Okay, I'm going to go watch the interview with RFK. Did y'all talk to him about his dad?

02:20:31.000 Or nah?

02:20:32.000 Yeah, we brought it up.

02:20:33.000 Yeah.

02:20:34.000 He said CIA. CIA, huh?

02:20:36.000 Yeah.

02:20:36.000 Did he tell you about how Sirhan Sirhan shot him from the front, but the bullets that killed his dad from the back?

02:20:42.000 He didn't get in that detail, but he said Woody Harrelson's dad was a hitman.

02:20:48.000 Woody Harrelson?

02:20:50.000 I think he claimed he was involved, right?

02:20:52.000 Yeah, he was a hitman.

02:20:53.000 His dad was a hitman or something.

02:20:57.000 I'm not sure.

02:20:57.000 I think he said he might have been involved or he gave tips about who he claimed.

02:21:01.000 Because I saw RFK on Bill Maher, and he doesn't think Sirhan Sirhan killed his dad.

02:21:07.000 I don't know if y'all got that far.

02:21:09.000 Okay, I understand.

02:21:10.000 Like, yeah, this could be deemed fucked up.

02:21:14.000 We've had great guests.

02:21:16.000 Everybody's been great.

02:21:18.000 That dude's a jerk.

02:21:19.000 So RFK was y'all favorite?

02:21:21.000 Yeah, he's cool.

02:21:22.000 And he's a liberal.

02:21:24.000 Yeah, I would consider him a libertarian.

02:21:28.000 More like old school liberal.

02:21:29.000 That's how liberals used to be.

02:21:30.000 I always looked at libertarianism as you're Republican, but you ain't got balls enough to say it.

02:21:35.000 You know what killed him?

02:21:36.000 I think there's two things that really hurt him.

02:21:38.000 Because I like RFK a lot.

02:21:39.000 I like him too.

02:21:40.000 I like him a lot.

02:21:40.000 But I think two things killed his campaign.

02:21:43.000 Number one, aligning himself with Shmuley.

02:21:46.000 Bad.

02:21:46.000 Really bad.

02:21:47.000 One of the most hated people at Rabbi Shmuley.

02:21:49.000 And then the second thing was...

02:21:52.000 The abortion thing.

02:21:53.000 I think it's awesome.

02:21:54.000 Oh, I was going to say his voice.

02:21:55.000 I didn't even think about the abortion thing.

02:21:56.000 You know what?

02:21:57.000 I've got his voice.

02:21:58.000 You can get over his voice after hearing it a few times.

02:22:00.000 Yeah.

02:22:00.000 But it's an acquired taste, though.

02:22:02.000 So it's like some people are going to be shut out immediately, bro.

02:22:05.000 I'm like, what the fuck is this?

02:22:07.000 But once you get used to it, because I would watch interviews.

02:22:10.000 At first, I was like, what is this?

02:22:12.000 Like a damn lawnmower.

02:22:13.000 Yeah, but I pushed through.

02:22:15.000 I said, I'm going to listen to what he got to say, and I like what he had to say.

02:22:18.000 But bro, Most people, especially lower IQ people, they're not going to go that far.

02:22:21.000 What the fuck is this?

02:22:22.000 Especially black people.

02:22:23.000 They're going to do files.

02:22:24.000 I can't take this.

02:22:24.000 This nigga can't even talk!

02:22:26.000 Yeah.

02:22:29.000 Jokes for days, bro.

02:22:30.000 I think it's a sport for Israel because he's so anti-war.

02:22:32.000 He's anti-war, anti-war.

02:22:33.000 But as soon as they bring up Israel and he's like, they're the world's most moral army.

02:22:37.000 They're mostly only killing him.

02:22:39.000 I like RFK. I like RFK. Professional choker.

02:23:00.000 We talked about this yesterday.

02:23:01.000 I can't breathe.

02:23:10.000 I see what you did there.

02:23:13.000 I didn't do nothing.

02:23:16.000 I think the thing...

02:23:17.000 Shit, I forgot what I was going to say now.

02:23:22.000 Oh, I think they had dirt on him, bro.

02:23:26.000 You think so?

02:23:27.000 I think, you know, who?

02:23:28.000 I think they had dirt on him, bro, because with him, yeah, because the thing with him is that, like, he was a sex addict, and I think he had issues with drugs in the past, right?

02:23:36.000 Something.

02:23:37.000 So I think they had him on that, like, where it would have been, like, you know.

02:23:40.000 But who hasn't had a sex addiction or been on drugs?

02:23:42.000 I think it's a guy that we forgive, but maybe it's something like this.

02:23:47.000 You guys hear all that beeping?

02:23:49.000 Yeah, I don't think it's picking up.

02:23:50.000 It doesn't stick up.

02:23:51.000 Oh, it's next door.

02:23:52.000 Oh, it's next door.

02:23:53.000 Okay.

02:23:53.000 I was thinking in my head, like, I didn't bring the bomb today.

02:23:55.000 Yeah, we did.

02:23:56.000 I was like, come on, man.

02:23:59.000 Think the CIA or whatever.

02:24:01.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:24:02.000 Yeah, we got these.

02:24:04.000 We still got a month to 9-11.

02:24:05.000 Yeah.

02:24:06.000 So, okay, or a couple weeks.

02:24:08.000 But no, what was I going to say?

02:24:10.000 Shit.

02:24:11.000 But no, man, cool.

02:24:12.000 Yo, guys, it was fucking awesome to talk with y'all.

02:24:15.000 It really was.

02:24:15.000 Yeah.

02:24:15.000 How long did we go, Bills?

02:24:17.000 Yeah.

02:24:18.000 Oh, wow.

02:24:19.000 We went a while.

02:24:19.000 Damn, we went a while.

02:24:20.000 Well, you know what?

02:24:20.000 You guys fucking milked me, so I milked y'all niggas back.

02:24:23.000 Fuck that shit, man.

02:24:24.000 Y'all got two interviews out of me, man.

02:24:26.000 Right.

02:24:26.000 God damn it, man.

02:24:28.000 Nah, it's always fucking fun talking to you guys.

02:24:29.000 It really is, bro.

02:24:30.000 Where can people find y'all?

02:24:31.000 And what projects are coming up?

02:24:33.000 We're just on YouTube.

02:24:35.000 We're on Conservative Twins, Ask Horse Twins.

02:24:38.000 And Horse Twins, 1776.

02:24:40.000 Yeah, that's our YouTube channels.

02:24:42.000 And...

02:24:44.000 Twitter, HodgeTwins, Instagram, HodgeTwins.

02:24:46.000 And then Rumble.

02:24:47.000 We gotta build this Rumble up.

02:24:49.000 Guys, please check them out on Rumble.

02:24:51.000 You guys know that's our main shit.

02:24:53.000 Check them out on Rumble, guys, because they got some base takes, especially on certain topics.

02:24:57.000 And then Jake, where can the people find you, bro?

02:24:58.000 Thank you for coming, by the way, and helping me out with this.

02:25:00.000 Thanks for having me along.

02:25:00.000 Just JakeShillsAJJ on Twitter.

02:25:03.000 I put the same thing on Rumble, Instagram, new podcast.

02:25:07.000 I just launched a few other places.

02:25:08.000 Again, it's JakeShillsAJJ and all those places.

02:25:10.000 And then one last thing.

02:25:12.000 We gotta have you on with some girls, guys.

02:25:14.000 Okay, sure.

02:25:14.000 We gotta fucking do this.

02:25:15.000 You guys keep fucking lying to me.

02:25:17.000 Yo, we gonna come to Miami!

02:25:19.000 Yeah, we just...

02:25:19.000 Yeah, niggas dope.

02:25:20.000 Can't you do the girls out here?

02:25:22.000 You know what?

02:25:22.000 I'm gonna have to probably arrange it here in Vegas.

02:25:25.000 That would be easier.

02:25:26.000 Okay.

02:25:26.000 Because we can set up plenty of other microphones.

02:25:29.000 Yeah, because we got a studio that we use too with Rolo Tomasi.

02:25:33.000 You guys should talk to him.

02:25:33.000 He's out here.

02:25:34.000 Oh, okay.

02:25:35.000 Y'all should talk to Rolo Tomasi.

02:25:37.000 He's like the author of The Rational Mail.

02:25:40.000 A lot of like Red Pill stuff, dating stuff.

02:25:41.000 Oh, okay.

02:25:42.000 So if you guys want, yeah.

02:25:43.000 He's here in Vegas.

02:25:44.000 Yeah, I think it'd be a good interview for y'all.

02:25:46.000 You know what I mean?

02:25:47.000 But yeah, what was I going to say?

02:25:49.000 And then TwinSpot, obviously.

02:25:50.000 Oh yeah, TwinSpot.

02:25:52.000 Yeah, man.

02:25:52.000 I was going to say, this is where we are.

02:25:53.000 I got so many YouTube videos.

02:25:55.000 How many subs y'all got on that right now?

02:25:57.000 Y'all just started it.

02:25:59.000 Let's get them to half a million, guys.

02:26:01.000 Fucking subscribe.

02:26:01.000 Get us to half a million.

02:26:02.000 Yeah, man.

02:26:03.000 They're going to drop my video next week.

02:26:06.000 You know, or actually the week after that because some shit happened.

02:26:09.000 And then, what else was I going to say?

02:26:11.000 But yeah, what I'll do is I'll get some girls and then we'll do something here in Vegas.

02:26:15.000 And then I think it would be hilarious for you all to be on with some dots.

02:26:19.000 Right, right.

02:26:20.000 But no, man, go check them all out, guys.

02:26:22.000 They got Rumbles and YouTubes, man.

02:26:23.000 Check them out, guys.

02:26:24.000 I'll catch you guys.

02:26:26.000 Actually, I think I'm going to do another stream with Rolo.

02:26:28.000 Tonight, man.

02:26:28.000 We going hard in the paint tonight.

02:26:30.000 So, I'll let you guys know here.

02:26:32.000 I'm going to call him up and see if we do it.

02:26:33.000 You guys might get four streams out of me today.

02:26:34.000 Real talk.

02:26:35.000 So, or three.

02:26:36.000 But, guys, thank you so much, man.

02:26:38.000 Thank you, man.

02:26:38.000 All right, man.

02:26:39.000 Yeah, great chat.

02:26:41.000 Yeah.

02:26:42.000 Yeah.

02:26:42.000 I'm always around right here.

02:26:43.000 Yeah.

02:26:44.000 And, yo, you know, just take us with the, do whatever the fuck you want.

02:26:48.000 Do whatever the fuck you want to do.

02:26:51.000 Yeah.

02:26:54.000 Did that shit so long?

02:26:55.000 Yeah.

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Hodge Twins Meet Fresh&Fit!

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