Fresh & Fit - Hoe Math Meets Fresh&Fit

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00:16:26.000 What's up, guys?

00:16:26.000 Welcome to Fresno Podcast, man.

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00:16:28.000 We're joined with special guest Ho Math.

00:16:30.000 This is a big one.

00:16:30.000 Let's get into it, guys.

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00:17:23.000 What's up, guys?

00:17:23.000 Welcome to Freshman Podcast, man.

00:17:24.000 Regular edition.

00:17:25.000 We're joining this special guest on the stream.

00:17:28.000 Homath, welcome to the show, man. 0.97

00:17:29.000 He's coming in remotely.

00:17:34.000 You guys are going to get some of the effects that you guys see on the videos with the artistry, etc.

00:17:39.000 What's up, man?

00:17:40.000 Welcome to the show.

00:17:41.000 What's up?

00:17:42.000 Good to be here.

00:17:43.000 How's it going?

00:17:44.000 Good, good, good, man.

00:17:45.000 Well, we know who you are.

00:17:47.000 Obviously, I've watched a good amount of your stuff.

00:17:50.000 Love the illustrative content, which demonstrates very important Red Pill points and explains it to people that might, you know, just be normies and not understand the current sexual marketplace.

00:18:00.000 Can you introduce yourself to the people real quick, for those that don't know who you are?

00:18:03.000 Yeah, I started out as a TikToker. 0.84

00:18:05.000 Now I am mainly a YouTuber.

00:18:07.000 I make videos of various lengths, explaining, basically, it starts with the dating crisis that we're in.

00:18:15.000 And it goes into, I have expertise in psychology, particularly developmental psychology, and I have studied a system that I use to explain the ways that people are thinking.

00:18:26.000 I've got some drawings and some maps about that here, called AQL, made by Ken Wilber, A-Q-A-L. 1.00

00:18:33.000 So I get really intellectual about it, and the reason that people tune in for my stuff is that I am very, very good at Saying things in ways that make them very easy to understand and people will like a lot of parents have been Messaging me lately and saying I'm showing all my stuff to your daughter because I don't want her growing up not knowing it Wow So that's basically what I do yeah, and you know it and it's interesting because Here's the thing one of the criticisms.

00:19:02.000 I get often is that I'm very crass rude Maybe too direct for women to take the message in it's not palatable enough for me You know, and I've always said, look, our audience is men.

00:19:12.000 We focus on getting this information out to men and men typically tend to do better with direct information and, you know, kid in this versus women tend to care far more about how the information is conveyed. 0.71

00:19:21.000 And I think your analytical approach and statistically backed, you know, research information, where you put it in a very nice and articulate, eloquent manner, I think that's a bit more, you know, digestible for women to take.

00:19:35.000 And obviously we're always going to get the, you know, You're a misogynist, you're a sexist, allegations, but I would say the way you bring out the information is definitely better for the masses in general, which is great because at the end of the day we want this information getting out.

00:19:49.000 Everyone has a different style, you know, you illustrate it, we tell the girls they're dumb hoes, Rolos Masi does it from an academic standpoint, so everyone has a different way, but we're all pretty much getting to the same bottom line. 0.98

00:20:01.000 Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

00:20:02.000 We're all talking about, we're all framing it a different way and we all have different audiences and I do have, you know, quite a few women, usually like pretty high quality women too, like exactly the kind that I want to talk to who are fans of mine and show up to my live streams and are, you know, really understand what I'm doing and enjoy what I'm doing.

00:20:22.000 It is a pretty low percentage.

00:20:25.000 It is, I think, I think it's a little bit You know,

00:20:51.000 isn't it amazing how Because I'm sure you deal with the same thing.

00:20:55.000 Maybe not as much as we do, but one of the things I've noticed from talking to, we're over 3,500 women now on this show, is they put an incredible amount of emphasis on how information is conveyed to them versus the Yeah. 0.98

00:21:09.000 Yeah. Yeah.

00:21:20.000 with them, but at the same time, we're also talking to women every night.

00:21:22.000 And it's a stark contrast where with the women, it's like you could be saying something that's dead on, right? 0.98

00:21:28.000 They know it's true.

00:21:29.000 But if you don't say how they want to receive it, they'll disqualify the information versus men. 0.92

00:21:34.000 You could talk to them as rudely or as crassly as you want to.

00:21:36.000 But if it's true, they will digest it, even if they.

00:21:39.000 Yeah, it's a very sharp difference.

00:21:46.000 It really is.

00:21:47.000 It always comes down to the same old thing people have been saying for all time.

00:21:51.000 It's feelings versus logic.

00:21:54.000 And it's not to say that women can't be logical and men don't have feelings, but it's that women need to feel seen and understood.

00:22:03.000 And included and that they have something to gain and they need to feel, I don't know if respected is the right word for it, but they need to be comfortable with what's being said and how it's being said.

00:22:14.000 And it can be very difficult to tell the truth that way, because the truth is very, usually very uncomfortable, particularly the kind of truth that that we talk about.

00:22:24.000 So it's like a lot of things you just can't say.

00:22:27.000 There are some people who just don't want to hear things.

00:22:30.000 It doesn't matter how you say it.

00:22:31.000 They're never going to take it in.

00:22:33.000 But there are ways that you can make it more palatable to them.

00:22:36.000 And I hope to figure that out at some point.

00:22:38.000 I'd love to have my audience be half women. 1.00

00:22:40.000 That would be great.

00:22:41.000 Have you thought about maybe--and I know you're probably not going to do this, but a lot of women you said can't get past the name.

00:22:46.000 Have you thought about changing the name?

00:22:48.000 Okay. For sure, yeah.

00:22:50.000 I'm market testing soul math right now because, you know, it gets into the sort of psychological...

00:22:57.000 It's quasi-spiritual.

00:22:59.000 Like this system that I studied some people...

00:23:01.000 I don't know if you can see the chakra system here.

00:23:04.000 It's...

00:23:05.000 It gets into that kind of audience, that kind of clientele.

00:23:09.000 So I was thinking about SoulMath.

00:23:11.000 I was market testing that.

00:23:12.000 I haven't done it officially, like I haven't A, B tested or anything.

00:23:15.000 But all the guys who came to me because they love the name HoMath and they think it's funny, they're all like, if you change to SoulMath, I'm unsubscribing.

00:23:22.000 So I have some work to do on that.

00:23:24.000 Yeah. Do you think that women taking the advice that you kind of portray, it can be easily digestible. 1.00

00:23:31.000 Do they actually apply it, you think?

00:23:32.000 What percentage do you think actually apply it?

00:23:33.000 Maybe 3 or 4 Math.

00:23:34.000 Have you thought about that, dude?

00:23:35.000 Yeah, I'll figure it out.

00:23:43.000 That is one option, but it could be a little bit less abrasive.

00:23:47.000 But as for the question, yeah, I do definitely have women Come back to me and say that they applied what I told them and that it worked right away. 1.00

00:23:55.000 Like, I'm really, really pleased.

00:23:58.000 I had been trying to be a life coach for years before these videos took off because I've always known that I was good at it.

00:24:05.000 I did some life coaching, you know, people bought an hour or a half hour at a time.

00:24:10.000 And especially during those sessions when I could get really deep with somebody and ask them what happened, what's going on, how do you, like, you know, I would have, like, A very high rate of breakthroughs in one session.

00:24:21.000 So I'm very pleased with that.

00:24:24.000 Like everyone wants to believe they're going to be good at the thing they want to do.

00:24:27.000 I turned out to actually be good at the thing I wanted to do.

00:24:30.000 And yeah, I have a very high rate of people coming back to me and saying, after I watched this video, this thing changed.

00:24:37.000 There was one guy who was...

00:24:38.000 He dressed all dorky and he did a lot of up-talking.

00:24:41.000 He used to end his sentences like this.

00:24:43.000 And I coached him for a half an hour or so.

00:24:46.000 And he watched all my videos and came back and he said, I'm hitting the gym.

00:24:49.000 I got a girlfriend now.

00:24:49.000 Everything's going great.

00:24:50.000 I get a lot of that.

00:24:52.000 So let me ask you this because, you know, like I said, you're in the same world as us, so you see all the same problems, but you come from a more stats-based thing and you're really explaining and breaking things down.

00:25:05.000 through pictures and stuff.

00:25:07.000 What would you say are the top problems on the female side? 1.00

00:25:10.000 And then what are the top two problems on the male side when it comes to this new dating marketplace?

00:25:14.000 Because obviously things have changed significantly.

00:25:16.000 So what would you say are the two problems on both gender sides? 0.97

00:25:19.000 So when you say the two problems, you mean that they are experiencing or the problems with them?

00:25:24.000 Either or we could do both.

00:25:26.000 Okay, sure.

00:25:26.000 Yeah, sure.

00:25:27.000 So for women, We're good.

00:25:58.000 Uh, if a guy gets to...

00:26:01.000 I think this would be number two.

00:26:02.000 Uh, problem number two is that if a guy gets to the quality that, you know, an average woman of five or six, like, would want that guy, he is so popular that he does not need to settle for just one.

00:26:16.000 This was one of the stories that I told when I made, um, Zones for the first time.

00:26:21.000 This was my first big project back when I was still mostly a TikToker.

00:26:25.000 I told a story about how when I used to drive for Lyft and Uber, I had this girl in the back seat, well, two of them, and they were kind of like testing me and making fun of me at first, but they figured out that I was, you know, smart, that I kind of knew what was going on.

00:26:40.000 And she asked me, I'm seeing this guy and he's seeing all these other girls, how do I make him pick me?

00:26:46.000 And I had to like really, really slowly walk her through, basically, if he's got other girls, why would he pick one?

00:26:53.000 Well, what what is why is one better than four and she didn't know what to do with that?

00:26:57.000 So that that would be problem number two that first of all they can't tell who likes them for real and who doesn't and second of all Once they do like a guy for real They almost all of them have so many options that they don't want to settle down to their 40 so The guys the problems that they have are number one just can't get any attention It just isn't worth it.

00:27:20.000 That's the number one thing.

00:27:21.000 I hear is that I'm doing everything right.

00:27:24.000 I'm dressing right.

00:27:25.000 I'm fit.

00:27:26.000 I have a job.

00:27:28.000 I'm going in the right direction.

00:27:29.000 Nobody answers me.

00:27:30.000 I keep getting ghosted.

00:27:31.000 This is a problem that I had increasingly.

00:27:35.000 When I started taking care of myself, I became more appealing to women about 2008, 2009.

00:27:43.000 And I did not have that problem for years.

00:27:46.000 And when I started having it, I thought it was because I was getting older.

00:27:49.000 But now all the young guys are saying the same thing.

00:27:51.000 So it seems like a cultural, just like a broad cultural shift towards, if you are not like a very top guy, it's hard to get any attention at all.

00:28:00.000 How old are you?

00:28:01.000 I am 40. Okay.

00:28:03.000 Yeah. So, you know, it's interesting that you're, that you're saying this man, because, um, it's incredible.

00:28:11.000 I truly do believe one of the biggest reasons why the red pill is exploding popularity.

00:28:16.000 Cause this thing has been around forever, right?

00:28:17.000 This type of knowledge has been around since the, 80s, 90s, so suave, old forums, etc.

00:28:23.000 But what I've realized is that it was kind of like a pseudo undercover community that like, you know, you had to kind of really be in the club to be able to get this information.

00:28:32.000 But now it's exploding popularity.

00:28:33.000 And I do think a big reason why it's exploding popularity and so many guys are, you know, involved in this movement now is because it's affecting more men.

00:28:44.000 I think with the modernization of technology, social media and dating apps, It's made it significantly harder for men to get noticed by women because the sexual marketplace has been opened up to women and guys that would have had a fighting chance maybe 20 years ago because the women weren't subject to the globalized sexual marketplace, those same guys that would have been able to clean up in the 90s are struggling now because their competition is becoming way harder.

00:29:09.000 I think that's a big reason why the red pill is exploding popularity because a lot of guys are dealing with this problem and I always break it down to this one thing.

00:29:17.000 Women flake too much. 1.00

00:29:18.000 That's the biggest.

00:29:19.000 That's really what it boils down to is women flake too much And that's why this entire movement started in the beginning. 1.00

00:29:24.000 Women flake too much. 1.00

00:29:25.000 They don't respond to text messages.

00:29:26.000 They don't show up on dates.

00:29:27.000 They're fickle They're non-decisive, and I think that's why so many guys have had this problem It's just become worse and worse and worse decade by decade by decade and technology has exacerbated the problem and real interestingly enough We did an interview with coach Greg Adams, and I want to get your take on this We actually since he's an older guy.

00:29:44.000 He's like in his 50s With Coach Greg Adams, I was able to ask him, can you tell us the differences in the sexual marketplace by decade?

00:29:52.000 And we went from the 1980s to the 1990s to the 2000s to the 2010s.

00:29:57.000 And according to him, he said the biggest shift to put men at a disadvantage and put women at an advantage was the 2010s.

00:30:07.000 And I was going to interrupt you and say that.

00:30:09.000 Yeah, please go ahead.

00:30:10.000 Take it.

00:30:10.000 Take it from there.

00:30:11.000 Music. Oh, no, I was just going to say 2010.

00:30:13.000 So I was just going to I was going to preempt you with that.

00:30:15.000 That's it was a big it was a sharp change.

00:30:17.000 Yeah. And you're a bit older than us.

00:30:19.000 So I guess in your experience, what were some of the biggest differences you saw and why the 2010 shift was the most profound, in your opinion?

00:30:27.000 Why was the 2010 shifts most profound, most profound?

00:30:30.000 I think it's because that's when the all of the most desirable women, you know, the early 20s. 1.00

00:30:37.000 That is when they entered the dating scene, having grown up with, like, being technology natives, internet natives.

00:30:49.000 They grew up with, like, those were, some of them were iPad kids.

00:30:52.000 That's, that generation, it was so, like, the girls today are, I can't, I can't help it.

00:30:59.000 I know that This is the right place to say it, but some people don't like it.

00:31:03.000 When I was 18, I liked 25-year-old girls. 1.00

00:31:05.000 When I was 25, I liked 25-year-old girls. 1.00

00:31:07.000 When I was 35, I liked 25-year-old girls. 1.00

00:31:09.000 I'm 40 now, I like 25-year-old girls. 0.67

00:31:11.000 The qualities that they have has changed so much in just a couple decades.

00:31:19.000 I really want to talk to some high school kids about this, or maybe some guys who just got out of high school.

00:31:25.000 When I was in high school, normal guys had a chance with normal girls who they sat in class with and saw around school.

00:31:35.000 And what I'm hearing today, like I don't want to go, you know, claiming anything that I don't know for sure, but what I'm hearing today and what I feel like is probably true is that those girls, the ones that would have been, you know...

00:31:46.000 So, in the Those girls who got that first wave of blasting 0.68

00:32:16.000 them with everyone's a princess. 0.99

00:32:18.000 That's when they got on the dating market.

00:32:21.000 You know, it's funny.

00:32:21.000 In 2010, you know what Apple's created?

00:32:24.000 Instagram. I was going to say, yeah, Instagram.

00:32:26.000 It's funny.

00:32:27.000 Oh, yeah.

00:32:28.000 Girls nowadays, bro, social media is scary.

00:32:30.000 They got Snapchat, Instagram, Twitter, of course, TikTok and all this mission there.

00:32:35.000 Plus the options, bro.

00:32:36.000 They got the world in their hands.

00:32:38.000 I couldn't picture being like A college student now or like a graduating senior in high school?

00:32:43.000 Like, you know, like when I went to prom, right?

00:32:48.000 All I have to worry about is the girls that are in my school, right? 0.99

00:32:53.000 But now, like some dude from another high school across town can ask a girl to go to his prom via social media, right?

00:33:02.000 And that's like something that wasn't a thing for us.

00:33:04.000 Like we barely even had cell phones back then.

00:33:05.000 We had, if you did have a cell phone back in like, I graduated high school in 2008.

00:33:09.000 You had what?

00:33:10.000 a flip phone a fucking razor like yeah there was no smartphone so like now i can't even imagine the young men that have access to tiktok and instagram whatever you're trying to get a prom date it might be hard for you to even do that just in your high school so um and then college uh when i went to college instagram wasn't a thing yet it was just starting to become a thing but it wasn't like what it is now so You know, things have changed significantly where I think young men nowadays, um, I feel for them, man.

00:33:34.000 I think they're absolutely getting, um, they have way less options and it's way harder for them to meet a woman versus for us, right?

00:33:40.000 Because we come from the same generation.

00:33:42.000 We're millennials.

00:33:43.000 These Z, Gen Z-ers? 1.00

00:33:44.000 These guys are cooked, man.

00:33:46.000 Bro, we spoke to one the other day.

00:33:47.000 Nigga was special ed. 0.98

00:33:49.000 It's tough out here, man.

00:33:50.000 Yeah, it's tough out here for these guys, bro.

00:33:52.000 Yeah, they're getting crushed.

00:33:53.000 And the Instagram filters too.

00:33:55.000 Like, I didn't really understand We're good

00:34:28.000 to go.

00:34:28.000 I would DM girls, talk for a little bit, and let's say DM like 20 girls, out at 20, maybe going at 10 dates.

00:34:35.000 But from that, it's funny, I send them a DM, but I know off of just like options to help people operate, especially in Miami, they have other DMs from other guys too as well.

00:34:44.000 So what's scary is that like, these girls that were in my city, pretty much, would come see me, they see my homeboy, and they see my other homeboy.

00:34:53.000 So to me it's like, and it's funny, they look, starting on Instagram, they look like a Maybe like an 8 or 9?

00:34:58.000 A person who's like a 7, 6 at best.

00:35:01.000 Sorry, 7 at best.

00:35:03.000 So I'm like, okay, this is what she's pushing out there as her actual picture, but it's not even her.

00:35:08.000 But she's got all these options.

00:35:08.000 She's like, oh, I'm the queen, I'm the one because I got all these options.

00:35:12.000 But, in reality speaking, she's portraying a fake persona online.

00:35:17.000 It's funny, thirst trap.

00:35:19.000 But in person, she's like a 6. You know what I'm saying?

00:35:22.000 So like, to me, this whole thing of Instagram, bro, it Put the push out there marketplace of I want to say faulty products and people will fell for it.

00:35:29.000 So it's way out, bro Yeah, it's a lot of deception.

00:35:33.000 It's like, people's brains cannot handle...

00:35:36.000 There's a really great book that I always recommend to people.

00:35:38.000 It's a very difficult book.

00:35:40.000 Read it if you absolutely love reading.

00:35:42.000 It's called In Over Our Heads by Robert Keegan.

00:35:44.000 And it's pretty old.

00:35:46.000 So, like, this is a very smart guy, obviously.

00:35:48.000 And he wrote this a few decades ago.

00:35:51.000 And it's about how modern life demands more of us than we actually have.

00:35:56.000 We just, our brains can't handle the stimulation we're getting. We evolved in jungles, basically.

00:36:03.000 We evolved in forests, and we would see every once in a while a bird and then run from a lion.

00:36:09.000 And now today we're getting blasted with all this high-intensity stimulation.

00:36:14.000 You can sit in your bed and flip through all the hot girls and pictures of whatever exciting.

00:36:21.000 This drawing that I brought out was an illustration I did for an old TikTok about how They don't understand.

00:36:29.000 They can't understand because the girl's experience with the apps is so different from the guy's experience that when they complain and they say, �Oh, the apps suck,� the girl says, �You're just dumb.

00:36:38.000 You're just not doing it right.� And my suggestion is get that girl to write your profile for you and then use it and then have her see what her results are. 1.00

00:36:47.000 And I actually did this with three different girls.

00:36:49.000 I had them take my profile and I actually asked them, find a guy on the same app who you find is attractive, like from a different city, right?

00:36:59.000 So there's no overlap.

00:37:00.000 And then I would just take his picture, put it on my profile and show her the difference.

00:37:05.000 Wow. They don't listen.

00:37:19.000 People don't listen to words.

00:37:20.000 They listen to feelings.

00:37:22.000 They listen to experiences.

00:37:23.000 And the phones are giving us so many feelings and experiences that when you tell people words that conflict with it, they just reject it.

00:37:31.000 But Homaf, I just wonder because after the feeling they feel after seeing that experiment, right?

00:37:36.000 Do they actually care to make a change?

00:37:39.000 Because I'd argue they don't give a fuck.

00:37:41.000 No, not usually.

00:37:42.000 The three girls that I did that experiment with, They were nice to me, they were friends of mine, but they didn't go beyond saying, oh, that sucks, I'm sorry.

00:37:55.000 They didn't go change their lives.

00:37:57.000 They still wanted the attention and still used the apps the same way, still did everything the same.

00:38:03.000 But at least they recognized it.

00:38:04.000 It was a step.

00:38:06.000 You know what's interesting?

00:38:08.000 A guy named, um, I don't know if you're familiar with Alexander Grace.

00:38:10.000 I think he's an Australian YouTuber.

00:38:12.000 Yeah, I know him.

00:38:13.000 Um, we got to get him on the show too.

00:38:15.000 Uh, I don't know how to reach him, but, um, long story short, he had a girl run his Tinder profile.

00:38:22.000 Oh, I remember that guy.

00:38:23.000 And she was very optimistic, really excited, like, oh yeah, I'm totally going to get him so many girls.

00:38:29.000 He's studying to become a psychologist.

00:38:31.000 Um, you know, he's not ugly.

00:38:33.000 I'll be able to totally get women. 1.00

00:38:34.000 Right. Watching her struggle, right, using his Tinder profile and his pictures to get him a date was fucking, well, it was hilarious.

00:38:45.000 But for her, it was extremely eye-opening as to what men deal with.

00:38:48.000 And, you know, I said this on a podcast and a lot of people get angry at me for saying this, but I truly do believe that women lack empathy when it comes to the male experience. 1.00

00:38:56.000 And, you know, they'll sit there and they'll say, oh, I'm a, I'm a, They'll say I'm sympathetic, but I'm like, well, you're not empathetic though.

00:39:02.000 You might feel sorry for the fact that it's hard for men to get dates, but you're not able to actually understand because if you did understand, you wouldn't do half the shit that you do.

00:39:10.000 But I don't think women really understand the male experience.

00:39:12.000 And that girl going through that Tinder experience of running a man's profile, pretending to be him, struggling to get dates, struggling to get girls to respond, getting matched with a hundred girls, but then not being able to close any of them or even get a phone number, or how some of them would just send one word responses when she would spend her time to really send Well thought out messages like shoot look at the girl's profile find like something to comment on that wasn't sexual Yeah on her hobbies or whatever which is what women tell you to do all the time, 0.85

00:39:37.000 right? Yeah, she actually employed that strategy and she was really frustrated and angry how like the women didn't respond. 1.00

00:39:43.000 It's like what the fuck?

00:39:44.000 Yeah, they don't know what they want.

00:39:45.000 They don't know they don't know what they respond to.

00:39:48.000 Yeah, it was so great to see And dude by the end of it she was crying at the end of the video she was fucking crying like I can't believe that this is what men go through and Yeah, it was it was really interesting if anyone hasn't seen it But I don't know if you have an illustration that demonstrates that but yeah man dating apps are cool for men Yeah, I am I am looking for it.

00:40:06.000 I know I have it I'm just like I don't know if you can see that I cut all my pictures up And I'm trying to organize them in a more effective way, but what's that's great?

00:40:15.000 Home after real quick Just from your findings.

00:40:17.000 Do you think sorry when do you think is the time women finally say you know what all right? 0.96

00:40:23.000 I have my fun.

00:40:24.000 It's a wrap.

00:40:25.000 I need to find a guy cuz I messed up What is that?

00:40:29.000 What do you think?

00:40:29.000 What do I think the time is yeah like for example?

00:40:31.000 Maybe what age what time I think it's I think it's as soon as they start to realize that they're not getting the same level of attention anymore as soon as they start getting turned down by the kind of guys that they could easily get before that's when they start saying Oh, uh-oh, I need a provider now.

00:40:48.000 I did open this up to answer the last question.

00:40:51.000 This is, I don't know if you know this, Zones.

00:40:54.000 It's like the centerpiece of what I do.

00:40:56.000 It breaks down what women are looking for in men. 0.99

00:40:59.000 There's two variables, and then what men are looking for in women, there's one. 1.00

00:41:02.000 It's just how much we like them.

00:41:03.000 But women like the sexy stuff in guys, and then the money and supportive stuff in guys. 0.98

00:41:08.000 So, when you ask women what they want, they only answer this stuff. 1.00

00:41:12.000 They only answer the support and the money and the love and the good guy things.

00:41:16.000 And then guys will go do those things.

00:41:19.000 And the girls don't like it because when she was answering the question, she was thinking, I want all this stuff. 0.71

00:41:26.000 I want this guy to do that.

00:41:27.000 So there was an old video that I made.

00:41:30.000 I think it's only on Tik TOK.

00:41:32.000 I probably put on YouTube too, but they are, There's like on the street interview and they're asking a woman, do you want nice guys or bad boys?

00:41:41.000 And she goes, oh, nice guys, definitely.

00:41:42.000 And people ask me to explain what that means.

00:41:45.000 What it means is that she's been getting these guys, the guys who are only attractive and won't be nice to her.

00:41:52.000 And it doesn't mean that she wants this guy, the guy who's nice but not attractive.

00:41:57.000 It means she wants the guy who's nice and attractive.

00:42:00.000 So, she's been getting the attractive guys and what she wants is the perfect man, instead of giving up the attraction to get some more of the niceness.

00:42:08.000 They just don't understand the difference between what they say they want and what they actually want.

00:42:14.000 It's a good point.

00:42:15.000 Yeah. No, it's, it's, uh, and that's a fantastic chart that like kind of illustrates the different, um, levels of, uh, where it goes, you know?

00:42:23.000 And, uh, so my, my thing is like, I think men that are red pillow wear, you know, understand this to a degree, but like, what is it like when you show this chart to women?

00:42:33.000 Well, most of them don't want to hear it.

00:42:35.000 Most of them don't like it.

00:42:37.000 Most of them don't understand.

00:42:38.000 They just, it doesn't make them feel good.

00:42:40.000 And so they, they turn away, but the ones.

00:42:42.000 Yeah. Really

00:43:12.000 pretty good at understanding it and sometimes they might say something like oh my god Really is that how men think and is that what they think we're saying?

00:43:19.000 But when I tell them yes, yes, it really is.

00:43:22.000 They usually don't like fight over it.

00:43:24.000 Let me know this Oh, I was gonna ask you this good what I've noticed And again, it's it's you know correlation is not causation So I'm not inferring that but what I have noticed is the hotter the girl the more delusional she can afford to be Where you know? 0.77

00:43:39.000 If you take like a girl that's very attractive, maybe some followers on Instagram, whatever, and you show her this chart, she might scoff at you and say, I don't give a shit what you think.

00:43:47.000 Would it be fair to say that women become a bit more pragmatic and realistic as they age and their sexual market value goes down?

00:43:53.000 Is it easier for you, in other words, is it easier for you to bring this information to them without them, you know, dismissing you?

00:44:00.000 I mean, again, it depends on the kind of woman. 1.00

00:44:02.000 I think that's kind of the answer that I'm giving.

00:44:04.000 It depends on how smart she is and how grown up she is and all that kind of thing. 1.00

00:44:12.000 Like the more intelligent younger women that I meet are definitely able to handle this information, what I tell them and learn from it and everything. 0.91

00:44:20.000 I think that you're right that as women get older, they do sort of give up on looking for the perfect guy and they settle a little bit more.

00:44:28.000 But I think that there's also a tendency to to settle while still secretly hoping for the perfect man to show up.

00:44:37.000 So it's not like they actually change emotionally and become satisfied with less.

00:44:43.000 They just are willing to accept less because they realize that they're pushing 40 or whatever.

00:44:47.000 And and then when they get the guy, they there's some chance that they're going to resent him.

00:44:53.000 They're going to look at him and be alpha widowed by whoever was in the past and look at their husband and say, well, you're you weren't my number one choice. 0.89

00:45:03.000 So they change their behavior, but not their feelings, I think most mostly.

00:45:10.000 Yep, because you can absolutely change your behavior and okay I got to get this done, but grit your teeth and wish for something else.

00:45:16.000 So that makes sense.

00:45:17.000 Exactly. So I gotta marry someone, but he's not the right one.

00:45:20.000 I think they respond a certain way when you show them the facts and usually it's kind of like this.

00:45:27.000 What's that?

00:45:30.000 Not me!

00:45:32.000 That's not my life, Homaf! 1.00

00:45:34.000 You don't know me!

00:45:35.000 First of all, I know a girl just like that gets a lot of men. 0.99

00:45:38.000 What the fuck, bro?

00:45:39.000 How dare you?

00:45:40.000 What's wrong with you, homaf? 1.00

00:45:41.000 Oh my god, bro.

00:45:43.000 You're just a woman hater. 1.00

00:45:45.000 Misogyny. Yeah.

00:45:47.000 How dare you?

00:45:49.000 Is that I'm yeah, is there a like a video or something?

00:45:53.000 I'm seeing you guys like a few seconds later.

00:45:56.000 Oh, I give you like a reaction to how women would respond to that. 0.99

00:45:59.000 Oh, okay.

00:46:00.000 Okay. Okay.

00:46:00.000 Okay. Yes.

00:46:03.000 Yeah, that kind of is, yeah, that kind of is what a lot of them give me on the, in the comments, in the comments section.

00:46:11.000 Happens all the time, bro.

00:46:12.000 So, um, what is your, um, of all the drawings that you have here, what is the one that you always use, like, give me the drawing that you use the most on men, and then the one that you use the most for women.

00:46:20.000 Well, this one is the one that I use most, overall.

00:46:23.000 This is like, it's the centerpiece.

00:46:26.000 Whenever I'm explaining like you know the differences between how men and women think like I'm making a video right now That's all about this section purity.

00:46:34.000 There's a girl who says basically What is what body count is too high and so I'm explaining to her.

00:46:41.000 That's not just the number of bodies It's like who were they and what are you doing with your life?

00:46:46.000 And do you have kids and you have guy friends and all that stuff like weighs in?

00:46:49.000 Because we just don't want to get attached to somebody who has been through so much that nothing makes you feel good anymore.

00:46:58.000 And you're always looking for better.

00:47:00.000 So this one is the one that I use on almost every video.

00:47:04.000 There's a lot of things that I keep coming back to that are like smaller drawings.

00:47:11.000 Like this one was very effective for teaching men about how to deal with it when your new girlfriend begins, you know, It's giving you hell for nothing.

00:47:24.000 It's like, that's a normal thing.

00:47:25.000 She's testing you.

00:47:26.000 It's just a shit test, and this is how you should respond, rather than if you get all excited and worked up, then you fail, right?

00:47:34.000 But yeah, there are lots of little ones that I use very often, and some that I, like, I haven't used this one at all yet.

00:47:40.000 I'm still making it.

00:47:42.000 But yeah, zones is really, like, it's the centerpiece of everything.

00:47:45.000 It's all kind of built on top of this, because the real problem is that Men don't know what women want and why, and men don't know what women want and why.

00:47:55.000 So it all comes back to this.

00:47:57.000 Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, something that's very important to know, I'm glad that you mentioned that.

00:48:02.000 There's a lot of blue-pilled men out there that, you know, that don't think or understand or have this grasp on sexual inner dynamics like we do.

00:48:09.000 A lot of guys are really operating in the fucking dark when it comes to this stuff.

00:48:12.000 Now, have more men become red-pilled on this stuff?

00:48:16.000 Awareness of female nature for sure, but at the end of the day We're still guys that are aware of this stuff is still like less than 10% of the male population Yeah, probably less than five so I can see how these charts are extremely useful For men to understand where how women kind of move things and then with women They're blue pill to women are feminism is like the blueprints for women but like women could afford to be blue pill because they don't have to be in a position to Well, yeah, it's beneficial for them. 0.99

00:48:45.000 Like, being blue-pilled as a woman is, like, that is how you get power. 1.00

00:48:48.000 That's why they hate the red pill so much, because they know it's how men get power. 0.99

00:48:52.000 Well, they might not know it consciously, but when they hear men start to say, I understand this about women, the women go, uh-oh, now I can't trick you as easily.

00:49:03.000 That's kind of why they don't like it because they want to be able to tell, you know, the undesirable guys to keep providing for them while they don't date them, keep them in the friend zone.

00:49:16.000 Are you guessing that or are there like surveys?

00:49:18.000 There's no surveys.

00:49:19.000 I'm going off of like popularity of people like us, Andrew Tate, etc.

00:49:26.000 I would say that maybe a higher percentage of young men are getting red-pilled than our generation.

00:49:32.000 I think our generation is still cooked.

00:49:36.000 I'll give you an example.

00:49:37.000 We're stuck in our ways.

00:49:38.000 You know who I like to use as the embodiment of the millennial movement?

00:49:41.000 Someone like Hasan Piker, right?

00:49:43.000 Oh yeah, okay.

00:49:43.000 He is a raging leftist.

00:49:46.000 He's like a Bernie, Obama, liberal guy.

00:49:50.000 That is what was cool in the late 2000s.

00:49:54.000 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012.

00:49:57.000 That was cool to have that mindset of, yeah bro, let's just give everybody welfare and stuff and we're gonna just like, you know, socialism.

00:50:04.000 That was cool.

00:50:06.000 I would say like this young generation has become far more conservative about our generation uh me you home uh me you home math uh fresh etc guys are born in the 90s 80s like When we were growing up it was cool to be a liberal but people growing up now it's cool to be conservative.

00:50:24.000 And some guys woke up and went more right like myself and you and stuff like that because to be red pill you inherently have to have conservative viewpoints to some degree.

00:50:32.000 But some guys stayed blue pill like Hassan and I would argue a lot of men in our age demographic view things the way he does.

00:50:40.000 Egalitarian sexual marketplace which is simply not how it goes.

00:50:44.000 Yeah, yeah, that was it was it was a lot of I had a lot of trouble with that I had a lot of trouble relating to people as I learned because they don't they don't want to I think that you're spot-on with that So everybody in my kind of cohort, you know my age bracket As I started dealing with reality, I would naturally bring it up to my friends and they were, like, I lived in a big blue city for a while.

00:51:09.000 I lived in two major cities for between, I think, 20, was it?

00:51:13.000 I got there in 2013 and I stayed there until, like, 2022, I left in 2022.

00:51:18.000 So I was there for about 10 years.

00:51:20.000 And they just don't, they still, I don't know what it's like now, it's a few years later, but they just get so much, they got so many social points for simping.

00:51:30.000 If they say the popular thing, even if it's obviously wrong, then everyone praises them and pats them on the head, and they don't want to give that up.

00:51:38.000 There was one time I was driving a guy home, dropping him off at his house, and we just came to a point in the conversation where I said something that was a little bit too far for him, and he actually got, like, kind of shook, and he said, You're not like a spy, are you? You trying to get me to say something so you can tell everybody else?

00:51:58.000 Even the guys who do know, they're terrified.

00:52:00.000 Yeah, and you know, I think it's because in our generation, the millennial generation, I'm getting in the weeds here, but anyone here in the chat that's in their 30s, 40s, whatever, I would argue that this whole cancel culture, being woke, etc.

00:52:14.000 It started in our era.

00:52:16.000 I always blame, I don't want to blame you, but I point to the Obama era as the era that started to bring in race politics, gay marriage, acceptance and inclusivity, DEI.

00:52:27.000 It started with the Obama administration, right?

00:52:29.000 It came in and changed.

00:52:31.000 And you kind of got rid of the white patriarchy that was there with the Bush administration.

00:52:36.000 And then Obama comes and he's like, yeah, let's go ahead and be straight.

00:52:40.000 Super woke and stuff, and this is when I started to see an uptick in interracial marriages on TV. 0.69

00:52:43.000 This is where I saw the explosion of Netflix where they're trying to push certain agendas.

00:52:46.000 You start to see two dads, you start to see two moms.

00:52:49.000 And that all occurred during the Obama thing.

00:52:51.000 And then Trump came in for four years, they got him out of there, and then Biden came in, and then that woke ideology continued on.

00:52:57.000 And that's what I've realized.

00:52:58.000 Guys in our generation, millennials, they either woke up and they're red pill now, and they understand that they've been lied to in their 20s and shit.

00:53:05.000 Or they stay like Hasan Piker and they believe in this egalitarian system between men and women or that they're equal.

00:53:12.000 And look, someone like a Piker, right, who's famous and has a bunch of money, he could go ahead and afford to be blue-pilled.

00:53:18.000 It's fine because his status and And his money will override a lot of the bad blue pill things that he would do But if a normie guy making 60 70 K per year regular guy regular looks was to apply these blue pill mindset tendencies of egalitarianism he's gonna get cooked and I would argue just like you said our generation not only brought this stupid-ass mindset in but we also are Are terrified of anyone that is red pill so it makes sense that your guy would be like,

00:53:47.000 oh, where are you?

00:53:48.000 Because like that's just how terrified we are from this woke generation.

00:53:51.000 Yeah, I used to get canceled for this shit Yeah, well we used to it.

00:53:55.000 It's going it's a lot less like I think that Elon buying Twitter and turning it into X has really changed that a lot and Trump winning it just seems like it changed the whole temperature of the country and of the world consequently and people are saying a lot about More than they used to I did want to just before I forgot I did want to say that the Obama era obviously was like a big acceleration of all this yeah,

00:54:20.000 and There's just there was one day in 2014 where I just realized I can't go one day without hearing about Transsexualism and I've heard about it pretty much every day ever since it's been it was it was like nobody ever talked about that In the 2000s or in the 90s.

00:54:38.000 And not even really around the Obama era, but 2014 it just kind of turned on and stayed on forever.

00:54:45.000 Never heard it once in the Bush administration.

00:54:47.000 Yeah, never heard of it.

00:54:49.000 And also, I don't know how old you are, but...

00:54:54.000 I'm 35. Sorry?

00:54:55.000 I'm 35, I was born in 90. So I'm 5 years younger than you, yeah.

00:54:58.000 But same, I guess we're the same generation.

00:55:01.000 Yeah, yeah, it's close enough, but I mean the five-year difference, maybe you don't remember back in the 90s They used to always say it's the 90s that was like the way that they would They it was anytime anything was weird or different or progressive or like like in mrs. Doubtfire If if if your fans don't know that movie,

00:55:22.000 it's like Robin Williams dresses up as an old lady so he can see his kids while he's in the middle of a divorce and he's sitting with his boss and Uh,

00:55:59.000 Having group-based fights instead of hating the government, who really is the problem.

00:56:04.000 You know what's crazy?

00:56:05.000 I always like to use Tim Pool as a measure of this.

00:56:08.000 In 2011, he was considered, like, a raging liberal.

00:56:11.000 Now they consider him alt-right.

00:56:13.000 That's how far we've kind of went, like, wildly left.

00:56:16.000 Joe Rogan, too.

00:56:18.000 Yeah! Joe Rogan used to be considered, like, you know, a liberal or maybe a libertarian.

00:56:23.000 Now they consider him alt-right, which to me, I kind of laugh when people say that.

00:56:26.000 I'm like, what?

00:56:26.000 It's ridiculous.

00:56:28.000 You know?

00:56:29.000 Yeah, it's silly.

00:56:30.000 There's nothing conservative about Joe Rogan.

00:56:34.000 He still has all the same values that were far left in the Obama era.

00:56:40.000 It's just that what people expect of you has gotten insane.

00:56:43.000 The things they expect you to say and believe and go along with.

00:56:47.000 So, moving forward for the future of dating itself, what do you see happening with men and women actually getting together, getting married?

00:56:55.000 Is that still a viable option, you think?

00:56:58.000 Wait out even more in the future.

00:56:59.000 It's going to go down.

00:57:00.000 It's going to be.

00:57:01.000 I'm seeing it like I've been.

00:57:02.000 I've been doom saying for a while.

00:57:04.000 And I think that just like there was like one day in 2014 before you heard about transsexual every day. 0.94

00:57:11.000 I think there's going to be a day coming where there's not going to be a day that goes by where people don't look around and go like, well, where's all the families and where's all the kids and what's going on here?

00:57:21.000 I think that's coming.

00:57:21.000 We're not fixing the problems.

00:57:24.000 You know, I watch the whatever podcast.

00:57:27.000 I-I obviously I'm flipping through all these videos all day, so I'm getting mega doses of it, but even when I go out in the world in places that There's what I'm trying to get at is there's this argument people make that like, it's the internet, get off the internet.

00:57:43.000 But everyone's on the internet.

00:57:45.000 The information is affecting everybody.

00:57:47.000 And you go out and you talk to them and they've absorbed all of it.

00:57:51.000 And they're acting accordingly.

00:57:53.000 And you've got women just offering men deals that are no good. 1.00

00:57:58.000 Like I've been talking to a lot of guys my age about who they're dating and the situations are terrible.

00:58:04.000 There was one guy I knew who was explaining to me I think he was trying to rationalize it.

00:58:10.000 He was trying to tell himself a story about why it was okay.

00:58:13.000 He was dating this woman who continued to see her ex who didn't want to date her.

00:58:19.000 So he was the bad boy and then he was like the clean up guy.

00:58:23.000 And he was like, well, there's many ways to have relationships.

00:58:25.000 He just wanted to find a way to feel good about it because that's all that he had on offer.

00:58:30.000 And as that gets worse, because I don't see it getting better, Um, men are just going to check out and they have been. 0.97

00:58:37.000 Like, there are some guys in my fan base, in my comments, who there's nothing I can say.

00:58:43.000 They're so traumatized that if I tell them your best option is to just get better as a person, they will snap on me and they'll say, oh, you want me to just be a slave to the system?

00:58:54.000 You want me to go work 60 hours a week and pay all my taxes to people who, you know, just call me an incel?

00:58:59.000 And it's like, no, I just said get in shape or something.

00:59:02.000 They, they don't want to do anything.

00:59:04.000 Anything because they're not getting anything back.

00:59:06.000 So yeah, there's that I don't know.

00:59:08.000 Yeah, I don't know if that's getting better Yeah, the black. 1.00

00:59:10.000 Yeah. No, you're 100% right man.

00:59:12.000 The black pill is absolutely real a lot of guys Are black billed where they're like a no level of self-improvement? 0.83

00:59:20.000 Matters right they say looks are the only thing it doesn't matter if I increase my status or my money looks for everything then you got the other guys that You know, that are doomsdayers and they say, you know, I'm just gonna get prostitutes. 0.99

00:59:31.000 Or then you got other, like, what I realized is there's different ways to deal with it.

00:59:34.000 Some guys go full-on MGTOW.

00:59:35.000 Right? And, you know, say I'm going all the way away from women. 1.00

00:59:39.000 A lot of those guys are also black-filled and saying I'm going all the way, and their reasoning for going away from women is because they're black-filled.

00:59:44.000 Other guys are like, you know, I'm just going to play the game and deal with the marketplace the way it is and self-improve and adapt.

00:59:49.000 And then other guys say, well, I'm just going to change the marketplace and I'm going to go somewhere where I automatically have higher sexual market value.

00:59:55.000 This is why we've seen the explosion of the passport bro over the past five years.

00:59:58.000 It's actually like incredible.

00:59:59.000 Like being a passport bro used to be like a kept secret.

01:00:03.000 This is like what Roosh used to talk about.

01:00:05.000 In the early 2000s, and this is why he got banned from so many countries.

01:00:08.000 He wrote bang Ukraine, bang Poland, whatever.

01:00:11.000 I vividly remember, like, Roosh V talked about how he'd be in Poland and he'd hold his American passport like this and just like fan himself with it and girls would come up to him and I was like, what the fuck?

01:00:19.000 Yeah. But obviously being a passport bro now, secret's out. 0.71

01:00:23.000 You can't, you're not able to do the things you used to do before, but it's just like, there's been different ways to adapt to the sexual marketplace.

01:00:31.000 But I think the bottom line is simply that It's very difficult to deal with women in a modern-day society, I think is what it is. 1.00

01:00:37.000 Actually, you made a good point about passport, bros.

01:00:40.000 HomeMath, is that a viable option, you think, for guys to go down that path and go somewhere else, out of the US, to find their dream girl?

01:00:45.000 I mean, I don't know that much about the different cultures and the rates of success that people are having.

01:00:51.000 I do know that a lot of, like, you know, I grew up in a suburb, like a pretty middle-to-upper-middle-class suburb.

01:01:01.000 I grew up with just a bunch of white guys, mostly.

01:01:04.000 It was a pretty diverse place for the time, but it was like, I don't know, 90% white.

01:01:10.000 All those guys that I grew up with, it's like almost all of them have Hispanic wives and girlfriends.

01:01:16.000 And I talked to them about it.

01:01:19.000 I've been talking to them about it for a while.

01:01:20.000 And they'll say things like, white women are just going insane. 1.00

01:01:23.000 There's something wrong with them.

01:01:25.000 They definitely from what I'm seeing like very directly in my first-order contacts like the people who I've known for a while They're taking those options.

01:01:35.000 They're taking those options.

01:01:36.000 They're getting better results.

01:01:38.000 I don't know Like what it what it's like to go to Colombia versus Brazil versus Vietnam or anything like that but the fact that the Western I

01:02:15.000 have a clip here.

01:02:18.000 I have a clip here that I want to show you.

01:02:20.000 Patrick Bedavid and Adam Sosnick got in an argument over this topic actually.

01:02:24.000 I'm going to play a clip here.

01:02:26.000 Recently? Yeah, this is like a week or two ago.

01:02:30.000 This is before they had this little argument.

01:02:32.000 But I want to play this clip because this kind of precipitated it.

01:02:36.000 And I want to get a whole mass take on this.

01:02:38.000 Are you ready?

01:02:39.000 Yeah, I can see it.

01:02:40.000 You can see it?

01:02:40.000 Okay. We're just making sure that the audience can see it as well.

01:02:47.000 We're gonna fire it up right now.

01:02:49.000 Alright, here we go.

01:02:53.000 Fault. American women are giving up on marriage. 1.00

01:02:56.000 You know, when Chelsea Handler, my ex, you know, when we had that internet beef three years ago, it's because I was citing a report from Morgan Stanley called the she economy, not the economy, but the she economy.

01:03:07.000 And basically saying by 2025, which the year we're in now, they anticipate that 45% of working women between 18 and 40 will be childless, no married, no kids.

01:03:18.000 Well, the report was wrong because they said 45%.

01:03:21.000 Tom, you're a numbers guy.

01:03:22.000 What number is it now?

01:03:23.000 51.4. 51.4, according to the American Enterprise Institute.

01:03:27.000 Thank you, Tom.

01:03:28.000 You had one job and you got the stat wrong.

01:03:29.000 I love you anyway.

01:03:30.000 However, 51% of women have nothing going on. 0.99

01:03:34.000 No marriage, no kids, no nothing.

01:03:35.000 That's up literally 10% since 2000.

01:03:37.000 So Chelsea Handler, you might, Is it No kid, all drugs, all sex toy thing going on in your life. 0.97

01:03:45.000 And that's great because you're famous and you're a feminist and you got millions in the bank. 1.00

01:03:48.000 But my question is this.

01:03:50.000 For the 38 year old woman who's making 60 grand a year working as whatever job. 1.00

01:03:54.000 For the 34 year old woman who's basically focused on her job and not a family. 0.57

01:03:58.000 For the 44 year old woman who's now considering having a baby with herself.

01:04:03.000 Did modern feminism work out for you? 1.00

01:04:05.000 Chelsea Handler, it's all your fault.

01:04:08.000 And Chelsea Handler's just one.

01:04:09.000 I mean, you know, there's a bunch that you could blame Gloria Steinem. 1.00

01:04:12.000 You can talk about a lot of these feminists who, you know, whatever. 1.00

01:04:15.000 I won't go further than that.

01:04:18.000 But these feminists, you know, a lot of them, the Sex and the City lifestyle, etc. 1.00

01:04:23.000 They put out this propaganda that you can have it all, Sheryl Sandberg, etc.

01:04:27.000 And we're actually beating what we anticipated.

01:04:30.000 We thought it was going to be 45 percent.

01:04:32.000 Now it's up to 51. And it kind of goes with what you were saying before, Matt, that It's gonna get worse, and we're actually getting there faster than we thought we would.

01:04:41.000 Yep. Yep, it is looking like the birth rates are also getting bad faster than we thought they would, which is like, I mean, there's something called, I don't know if you guys know about accelerationism, there's something to be said for if we see the problems move faster, then people will be motivated to solve them sooner.

01:04:59.000 I do really hate it when people like Chelsea Handler, when like rich celebrities who have every opportunity in the world, like the top percent of a percent of a percent of everyone who's ever existed, tell normal women that you can live like this and you can have infinity options.

01:05:16.000 I don't like it when, Um, older women tell younger women, like, waste your 20s. 0.83

01:05:21.000 They're not important.

01:05:21.000 They're for having fun and doing whatever you want.

01:05:23.000 It's like, no, that's 10 years of your life, and it's usually the best 10, because you're still young, but you have freedom, usually.

01:05:31.000 I, I, I definitely, you know, that messaging is so bad.

01:05:35.000 It's either...

01:05:37.000 When, when someone gets something that wrong, It usually is not a mistake.

01:05:42.000 It usually is either stupid or evil, and I don't think that that many people can be stupid.

01:05:46.000 I'm worried that they might be spreading that kind of message on purpose, deliberately, to make these problems worse.

01:05:52.000 And I want to add in, so what ended up happening after this conversation was, you know, Patrick Beddavid and Adam actually got in a pretty heated argument over this.

01:06:00.000 And the long story short is, Patrick Beddavid said, well, the reason why you're finding these women that are, you know, not marriage material or long term, because Adam was saying like, yo, this is a problem.

01:06:11.000 And it's, you know, it's pervasive in all groups of women. 1.00

01:06:15.000 And Patrick Beddavid countered and said, well, you're looking in the wrong places.

01:06:19.000 And I actually thought Adam was correct on this.

01:06:21.000 And I did a whole breakdown there, but I won't go into too much detail.

01:06:24.000 But, you know, I think where you meet the women, yeah, that might mitigate some of the risks and the problems, right?

01:06:30.000 Like, for example, meeting a girl at Barnes& Noble is probably going to lead to a higher likelihood of finding a better girl than meeting a girl at the club.

01:06:37.000 But that's not going to absolve you of the inherent risk of dealing with modern women in the West in general. 1.00

01:06:42.000 And I don't think PVD understands that because they've been married for like 20, 30 years.

01:06:46.000 And, you know, obviously Adam is still in the marketplace.

01:06:49.000 And it's amazing to me how like married men just simply don't have a finger on the pulse of what modern women are like.

01:06:55.000 I mean, hell, if you got married five years ago, I would argue that you're probably going to be lost with how modern women operate today. 1.00

01:07:01.000 Yeah. Yeah.

01:07:02.000 The Barnes and Noble girls are also, they also can be pretty bad. 0.99

01:07:07.000 Like I dated a bunch of intellectual kind of like literature girls and you would really be surprised that How they can parlay that sort of intellectualism into they're just very good with words, you know They're smart and they know how to read and they're very good at using words to just Legitimize, you know doing doing all this stuff that is destroying everything they talk about it being you know a new age They always say it's the year.

01:07:34.000 It's oh, it's the 90s.

01:07:35.000 It's 2025 as if that, you know changes human nature and They talk about what is it?

01:07:41.000 There's that book, The Ethical Slut, right? 0.84

01:07:43.000 Like, ethical non-monogamy.

01:07:45.000 Ethical non-monogamy, I think it's called.

01:07:48.000 So, it's like, this has been kind of an issue for me, in what I do, because I do a little bit of life coaching, I give people a little bit of advice.

01:07:57.000 I can't give advice about everything.

01:07:59.000 And people will come to me and say, where do I find I don't And

01:08:33.000 he's willing to marry you instead of playing around?

01:08:35.000 I don't know where to find that, you know?

01:08:38.000 It's like, how far past the point of no return are we?

01:08:41.000 So there's a point where, like, men and women have similar issues, but also a point where I can see where women want what they want, and men want what they want as well.

01:08:50.000 How do you bridge that gap between what we both don't understand we need versus what we want?

01:08:56.000 What do you mean, bridge the gap between, like...

01:08:58.000 So for example, a lot of men want a good woman that is Sexy like a eight nine ten that will stay at home cut and clean and just listen to whatever he says I'm gonna want a guy six feet, you know six figures good-looking that loves only them So it's two kind of like things where you may not find that right away or hard to find and how do you bridge? 0.94

01:09:18.000 I got between telling them what they actually need versus what they want.

01:09:21.000 Oh Yeah, well, that's something that I've been talking about in terms of like all this level stuff this developmental psych I made a video called Crisis, where I talked about how...

01:09:35.000 I wish I had the levels chart printed out.

01:09:39.000 Maybe I'll find a copy of it somewhere else.

01:09:41.000 But basically, people are not growing up as much as they used to.

01:09:45.000 So I have a chart where I have all of the researchers and all the developmental psychology perspectives that were significant over the last few decades.

01:09:57.000 And I use that to talk about how, in general, people are expected to grow to the 5th level, which is like...

01:10:04.000 it's 5 out of like 9. 9 that we have recorded.

01:10:08.000 There might be more, but it's very, very rare.

01:10:10.000 And that's like the modern world.

01:10:12.000 That's like...

01:10:13.000 The Industrial Revolution, the Enlightenment, you know, that's the fifth level of consciousness, was what brought that forward.

01:10:21.000 The fourth one was like agriculture and medieval times and traditional religion, like traditional fundamental religion, like Islam and Christianity.

01:10:31.000 And the third one is more like biker gangs and When we landed in America, the Native Americans were living kind of at that level. 0.64

01:10:42.000 It's a lower level of social organization, a lower level of cognitive development.

01:10:48.000 And I think that because of various features of the time that we live in, people are not making it up to that fifth level anymore, and they're staying in this very selfish, self-serving Myron?

01:11:13.000 They blame someone for the feeling and then they do something about it.

01:11:16.000 And then this person goes and does the same thing back to them.

01:11:18.000 And they never step out of themselves and look at, you know, should I be doing this?

01:11:22.000 And what does this other person feel?

01:11:24.000 So, yeah, it's a maturity problem that's being caused by.

01:11:30.000 A number of things, not least of all the type and amount of the media that we consume.

01:11:35.000 Yo, that was so perfect.

01:11:36.000 Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

01:11:38.000 What? They get a feeling, they blame somebody, and then they act up the feelings?

01:11:44.000 Yeah. Gang gang.

01:11:45.000 Yeah, that's females in general. 1.00

01:11:47.000 I mean, when you look at the bullshit that happened with you, with the, you know, Panda Express bitch, you know, the girl that... 1.00

01:11:54.000 Tate? Yeah, you know, menorah whore. 1.00

01:11:57.000 Like, yeah dude, like, like women can't take, I would argue they want to hurt you back even more the less they've experienced and typically more attractive women don't get played by men as much as they play men. 1.00

01:12:08.000 So when they do get hit, they look at it like the ultimate, you know, I got to get my get back.

01:12:14.000 Yeah, it's crazy because like, all right, until you get hit by it, you don't understand fully.

01:12:19.000 But like, when you're playing games to a certain level, and then they can't hold the L. They will come at you so hard, bro.

01:12:27.000 It's crazy.

01:12:28.000 So, yeah.

01:12:29.000 Yeah, well, I'm not...

01:12:30.000 I'm asking a goofy question.

01:12:32.000 Did you say hold the L as in to be the loser in the situation?

01:12:35.000 Yes, because for them, basically, they thought they had a chance.

01:12:39.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

01:12:41.000 So when that happens to them, they just lose it.

01:12:43.000 100%. Yeah, basically, yeah, and I've talked about this the other day.

01:12:48.000 What I've realized, again, correlation is a causation, but what I've noticed is it tends to be the trend.

01:12:52.000 The more attractive the woman is and the more men that she's had fun over her and give her what she wanted, the less she can take a no. 1.00

01:13:03.000 And if she does take a no, and if she does get rejected, her response is going to be far more vindictive and evil because she is not used to being rejected by men.

01:13:15.000 If you get rejected all the time, right, You're used to it.

01:13:18.000 You kind of have a game plan on how to deal with it.

01:13:19.000 I'm just going to move on.

01:13:20.000 No biggie.

01:13:20.000 But if you're someone that's never been rejected and you've only gotten the best out of men, and then a guy is able to finesse you, well, that's going to be a problem because you're not used to this type of behavior from men.

01:13:32.000 This is why I've realized that like very vindictive women, if you break, excuse me, very attractive women, like we're talking top 1%, right? 1.00

01:13:39.000 They get a bunch of men on them all the time where they have offers from millionaires, billionaires, whatever. 0.99

01:13:43.000 If you play them, they're going to come for your neck.

01:13:46.000 They're not going to just Okay.

01:13:58.000 or CryptoCoin that she was pushing.

01:14:00.000 Like this is the route that'll go.

01:14:04.000 Yeah, real quick, HomeF, I'm gonna throw some words away.

01:14:08.000 I'll throw you some words, and you tell me the definition, cool?

01:14:12.000 Cuck. Uh,

01:14:46.000 to refer to usually guys, almost always guys, who are doing something that's against their own best interests because they feel like they have to.

01:14:56.000 So being a cuck is like taking care of a woman who's not doing anything for you. 1.00

01:15:01.000 She's not having your kids. 1.00

01:15:02.000 She doesn't love you, but you're sending your money to her.

01:15:05.000 You're supporting her.

01:15:05.000 That is a cuck thing to do.

01:15:07.000 People also abstract it to politics.

01:15:09.000 So they say like white guys, for example, who are always saying all that, all anti-white stuff, oh, I hate white people too.

01:15:17.000 It's like, well, that's also cuck behavior because you are going along with something that's not good for you because you feel threatened by it, like you're not strong enough to deal with it.

01:15:27.000 I love that.

01:15:28.000 What about simp?

01:15:30.000 What's that?

01:15:31.000 Simp. Simp.

01:15:32.000 So I've heard a lot of sources for that word.

01:15:36.000 I'm not really sure which one is true.

01:15:39.000 I didn't do the research, but a simp is someone who...

01:15:42.000 I would say it's a little bit more specific than being a cuck.

01:15:47.000 It's just overvaluing women. 1.00

01:15:49.000 It's basically treating women like they are Like the other day I made a post about this this young girl this kind of just like this club girl who there's some pictures of her obviously Pretty obviously like I can't make any accusations, but she might have you know had a little bit too much fun that night and And, um, and she's running for Congress, I think. 0.98

01:16:11.000 So I made a post about that and a bunch of guys showed up and said, well, what's the problem with just being pretty and dressing pretty and having a good time?

01:16:19.000 And of course she's in like a mini skirt and fishnets and everything. 1.00

01:16:21.000 It's like, I don't know if I want that person in Congress.

01:16:24.000 And those guys showing up to defend her, that is simping.

01:16:27.000 Because this is a woman who, you know, doesn't have the value you think she does. 1.00

01:16:31.000 She is pretty, but I wouldn't, you know, be buying her a ring and here you are treating her like she's The Virgin Mary. 0.99

01:16:39.000 Amazing breakdown.

01:16:40.000 Okay, Red Pill.

01:16:42.000 Red Pill came from The Matrix, the movie The Matrix, and it symbolized Neo had the choice of taking either the red pill and waking up, seeing what the Matrix is, or the blue pill and going back to sleep and living in his dream.

01:16:55.000 Uh, I love that definition of the red pill, because that's...

01:16:59.000 I've always been about that.

01:17:00.000 I always like the truth, no matter how ugly and painful it is.

01:17:03.000 But lately, over the past few years, maybe the past decade, it's kind of turned into, like, boy feminism, where it's just the male perspective is what's valuable, and the... 0.97

01:17:15.000 and women are wrong, and everything like that. 1.00

01:17:17.000 It came out of the desire to Understand the truth, not be fooled, not be naive.

01:17:25.000 It really is.

01:17:26.000 I don't want to be naive.

01:17:27.000 When someone says I'm red pilled, it means I don't want to be naive and fooled and taken for a fool.

01:17:32.000 I don't want to be treated like a cuck or a simp. 0.84

01:17:34.000 But the way that the culture has kind of taken it, it's just kind of means like boy, good girl, bad sometimes.

01:17:41.000 Okay, perfect.

01:17:43.000 And then last one.

01:17:43.000 Well, last two.

01:17:44.000 Alpha and beta.

01:17:46.000 Alpha and beta.

01:17:47.000 Yeah. Very, very hyper simplistic.

01:17:50.000 Uh, reference to the kind of guy that girls want and the kind of guy that girls don't.

01:17:55.000 Alpha means good, beta means bad, alpha means strong, beta means weak.

01:17:59.000 Uh, the traditional, uh, definition I think that came from biology when they were studying wolves of alpha and beta would be the one that, um, leads the behavior of the pack and then the one that responds.

01:18:11.000 So there would be like, um, if you're the president, you're the alpha.

01:18:16.000 And then you give an order and everyone responds to it.

01:18:18.000 Everybody changes to match you.

01:18:20.000 It's kind of like when a bunch of girls live together and their menstrual cycles sync up. 0.77

01:18:25.000 They usually sync up to the strongest woman who leads. 1.00

01:18:28.000 And so she's the alpha and then the rest of them are beta.

01:18:31.000 Bonus! Hoflation. 0.88

01:18:34.000 Hoflation. That just means that women are getting lower quality but cost more. 1.00

01:18:39.000 It's pretty much the same thing as the housing market where you can go spend a half a million dollars on a two-bedroom house in Gary, Indiana or wherever.

01:18:49.000 The women are not pure anymore. 1.00

01:18:55.000 They swear.

01:18:56.000 They have tattoos.

01:18:57.000 They have all these signs that they're not reliable.

01:19:02.000 They're not loyal.

01:19:03.000 They're not fidelitous.

01:19:04.000 They don't stick around.

01:19:06.000 But they expect A lot more.

01:19:08.000 They expect, you know, more expensive stuff.

01:19:11.000 They expect better treatment.

01:19:12.000 They want the door open for them.

01:19:13.000 Nobody who I ever dated from high school until a few years ago wanted me to open the door for them.

01:19:19.000 And now it seems like girls do want that. 0.99

01:19:21.000 And it's like, well, it's kind of, kind of getting crazy there.

01:19:24.000 But, uh, yeah, the price going up and the quality going down.

01:19:28.000 Uh, Homat, I sent you a quick DM on, on Twitter real quick. 0.98

01:19:31.000 We'll read some chats and you can just look at it real quick.

01:19:33.000 Let me know what your thoughts are on that.

01:19:35.000 I'll click over to it.

01:19:36.000 I'll read some of these chats that came in.

01:19:37.000 And then we'll react to that actual article.

01:19:39.000 Oh shit, yeah,'cause we still gotta do the article, right?

01:19:41.000 Yeah. Oh yeah.

01:19:43.000 It's kinda crazy.

01:19:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:19:45.000 Alright, what's the first chats?

01:19:46.000 Yeah, I could read some of these chats.

01:19:47.000 Okay, we got here.

01:19:48.000 New name, Math to Love.

01:19:49.000 You know it.

01:19:50.000 Oh, Kimpop.

01:19:51.000 That's a name for your...

01:20:21.000 Reminds me of Sandman.

01:20:23.000 Okay, fair enough.

01:20:24.000 Yeah, Sandman's OG in the Red Pill space.

01:20:26.000 Everyone needs to get this through their head.

01:20:28.000 This comes from Midnight in Exile.

01:20:30.000 It says, the only thing that will make women act reasonably is fear that they'll get another... 1.00

01:20:35.000 Oh, man.

01:20:36.000 Nah, nigga. 1.00

01:20:37.000 What the fuck?

01:20:37.000 Bro, come on, man.

01:20:38.000 What the fuck?

01:20:39.000 All right, bro.

01:20:40.000 That's a harsh one.

01:20:41.000 Yeah, yeah, he's an idiot.

01:20:42.000 Three nigglets, 100 bucks. 1.00

01:20:44.000 I appreciate that.

01:20:44.000 Three nigglets, you're the man.

01:20:45.000 Nah, what do you say, bro?

01:20:46.000 That's my nigga.

01:20:47.000 Come on, man.

01:20:47.000 What do you say?

01:20:48.000 Show it.

01:20:50.000 Bro, he don't say nothing bad Children of the fence 20 bucks appreciate that we could show it.

01:20:57.000 I mean, I don't know what it is, but you support him in All right.

01:21:02.000 Yeah, the other one we should have that one with the comedy thing and this thing over here trying to do the Dixie Sean Connery Yeah Also guys you can join the zoom call right after this on locals only we can do it link down below in the description box Yeah,

01:21:21.000 okay, so guys we're gonna do a zoom call after the stream so save your questions for For this gonna be for Castle Club guys only so we're gonna do a zoom call you're gonna be able to hang out with Homath to ask him some questions We want only questions for Homath because obviously got a special guest and then we'll do another zoom call with just us in the future But okay 3Diglet says MLD is dumbass in the chat talking about frame lol is your frame with Angela And where was your frame with Saint?

01:21:45.000 By the way, MLD, you stand.

01:21:46.000 You were gonna kick my ass.

01:21:48.000 Stay out of business.

01:21:48.000 What? What the hell?

01:21:50.000 Y'all niggas beefing with MLD? 1.00

01:21:52.000 Oh my god.

01:21:53.000 Okay. We'll move on.

01:21:56.000 Let's get into the topic.

01:21:57.000 Was there any other chats?

01:21:58.000 That's why Bill's not gonna want to show up, probably.

01:22:00.000 He's beefing with Model Life Dating.

01:22:02.000 In the chat.

01:22:03.000 That's it?

01:22:04.000 Okay. So we got an article that we're gonna do.

01:22:07.000 We'll cover this real quick.

01:22:08.000 Then, guys, stay here.

01:22:10.000 We're gonna keep the stream going for Castle Club members.

01:22:13.000 After we do this article breakdown, it's going to be an open Q&A with Homeath.

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01:22:20.000 And we got you guys.

01:22:22.000 Yeah. So recently, there was a story about a not rapper, but more of a guy in the scene, Young Scooter, passing away in Atlanta.

01:22:31.000 And what happened was is basically a woman that was dating one of his boys called the police and said in not too many words, Hey, there's an incident.

01:22:41.000 There's kids here.

01:22:42.000 There may be underage girls here. 1.00

01:22:45.000 These guys are beating women. 1.00

01:22:46.000 You need to go get them right now.

01:22:48.000 Now, mind you, she wasn't even at the location.

01:22:51.000 She was somewhere else calling the police saying, oh, this person's a bad person.

01:22:56.000 Go get him.

01:22:57.000 And what transpired was at that point, she literally had the police pull up to the spot.

01:23:02.000 Guys ran away.

01:23:04.000 And Young Scooter ended up losing his life after that happened.

01:23:08.000 Now, mind you, there's some, uh, Uh, conspiracy behind how he died.

01:23:12.000 They said maybe he died from, uh, police shooting him or from falling off a fence and punching himself with a broken leg.

01:23:19.000 That is questionable.

01:23:20.000 But at the same time, he basically passed away from a woman calling and doing a fake call to get them, I guess, jammed up.

01:23:28.000 And he died from that process.

01:23:30.000 Here's the article here if you don't mind showing bills, which is crazy because this is some bullshit, bro. 0.77

01:23:34.000 Like, imagine a girl's doing a, I guess, a vindictive call to the police against you.

01:23:39.000 You end up dying.

01:23:40.000 That's insane by the way.

01:23:41.000 Here we have here, and actually she was arrested because it is, um, as well because someone, what's the law?

01:23:47.000 If somebody dies from a fake police call, I think you're, uh, charged with a felony, if I'm correct, but I'm not too sure about that, but I believe she should be charged with a felony.

01:23:55.000 Anyway, I think we have here, yeah, here we go.

01:23:59.000 Uh, so Rollstar posted this, Fulton County Sheriff's Office has released the mugshot of Demetria Spence, 31, who has been charged with making an alleged false 9-11 call that led to the death of rapper Young Scooter.

01:24:12.000 I'd argue he's more...

01:24:14.000 He's a rapper, drugs, whatever.

01:24:17.000 Spence was arrested, booked into jail with a bond set to $7,500.

01:24:21.000 Now, Homaf, from your expertise, bro, what are your thoughts on this, bro?

01:24:26.000 To me, this is crazy, bro.

01:24:27.000 She called, got this guy killed, and then was trying to get away from accountability. 0.96

01:24:31.000 Oh, I didn't mean that to happen, blah blah blah.

01:24:34.000 Yeah. I mean, it's an extreme example of something that women do all the time that we just don't pay attention to. 1.00

01:24:40.000 I did a whole video on this, too.

01:24:42.000 I have this chart.

01:24:43.000 It wasn't one of my most popular videos because it's just a very difficult thing to make simple.

01:24:50.000 But basically, I started with the idea of how women are all saying that they're 10s. 0.56

01:24:55.000 And people were asking, like, where does that come from?

01:24:59.000 And so I got into the research and I just sort of broke down the way that men jockey for status and power and then the way that women do it is very, very different.

01:25:09.000 Men are very open about it and they just...

01:25:12.000 I have bigger muscles.

01:25:13.000 I have more whatever guns.

01:25:15.000 I have more money.

01:25:16.000 My dad knows a congressman.

01:25:19.000 They just come out and say what is good about them.

01:25:22.000 Women pretend that everything is equal and that they're nice and they're angels and they do things behind the scenes to manipulate. 1.00

01:25:29.000 So, basically, the way that this relates to this story...

01:25:32.000 You ain't lying.

01:25:33.000 Is that...

01:25:33.000 Facts. What's that?

01:25:34.000 No, no, we're just saying facts.

01:25:35.000 You're keeping it real.

01:25:36.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:25:37.000 It's the facts.

01:25:37.000 Keep going.

01:25:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:25:38.000 So the way that relates to this story is that Men, when they are violent towards others, generally will just punch you in the face.

01:25:45.000 But women will cry about getting hurt. 1.00

01:25:48.000 They'll lie about it until someone else punches you in the face.

01:25:52.000 So, that's kind of like what she did by calling in the police and reporting something that wasn't happening.

01:25:59.000 It was, it's like that's how women do those things. 1.00

01:26:02.000 Instead of doing it herself, she said, help, help, I'm a victim, I'm a victim, and someone did it for her.

01:26:07.000 We generally don't recognize that.

01:26:09.000 As a society.

01:26:12.000 We, when women say, we even had that thing a few years ago that was like, believe all women.

01:26:17.000 Anytime a woman says that something bad happened, you have to believe her. 1.00

01:26:19.000 That's dangerous, because they can say anything they want, anytime they want, and they do.

01:26:24.000 So, it's good to hear that she's getting in trouble for it, at the very least.

01:26:30.000 Yes, usually, they never get in trouble.

01:26:33.000 Yeah, usually they get away with it.

01:26:35.000 There was that girl a few years ago, I think, I can't remember the college, but there was an athlete, college athlete, and she accused him of the old essay, the old standby.

01:26:46.000 Somebody took the cross team?

01:26:48.000 I don't remember.

01:26:50.000 It might have been basketball.

01:26:51.000 It was a long time ago.

01:26:52.000 It might have been like 2007.

01:26:53.000 Black guy? 0.91

01:26:54.000 Yeah, the one with the Duke Lacrosse team where this woman said that they graped her when they didn't.

01:26:59.000 This was a long time ago though.

01:27:01.000 This was like 10 years ago plus.

01:27:03.000 Yeah, that was the big one.

01:27:04.000 That was the big one that I remember.

01:27:05.000 I think that's the same story.

01:27:06.000 And then she even came out and said later that it was a lie and still didn't get punished. 0.95

01:27:11.000 Didn't she get money and she had to keep it? 1.00

01:27:13.000 I don't know that.

01:27:14.000 I know she went to jail for murder because she ended up killing her boyfriend later. 0.99

01:27:17.000 Well, different story though.

01:27:19.000 Yeah. No, the same accuser.

01:27:20.000 The one that accused the Duke Lacrosse team guys.

01:27:22.000 She ended up going to jail later, got her karma for killing her boyfriend.

01:27:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:27:27.000 She like shot him or some shit. 1.00

01:27:29.000 Yeah, they could have prevented that if they recognized this kind of behavior though.

01:27:32.000 Yeah, that's kind of what I'm saying.

01:27:34.000 I think the Johnny Depp case was literally historic to kind of deal with this problem.

01:27:39.000 Thank God he recorded those recordings.

01:27:41.000 Thank God it was all over the place.

01:27:42.000 Because obviously that trial, it was a civil case, but it was all over the place and televised and Amber Heard looked like an idiot.

01:27:48.000 But it brought an enormous amount of light to the Me Too problem.

01:27:52.000 Now we can fight back.

01:27:53.000 Legally, yeah, uh Myron thoughts on this because obviously you have a more.

01:27:56.000 Oh, yeah No, I mean, it's it's completely unacceptable and you know to see her get held accountable shows that we're going in the right direction but the whole fact that she thought she can do it in the first place speaks to where we stand as a society because Criminals don't commit crimes thinking they're gonna get caught criminals commit crimes thinking that they're gonna be able to get away because they feel as though they're in a favorable position to Not just commit the crime,

01:28:17.000 but be able to get away and not deal with consequences for it later so the fact that she Concocted this plan conducted this plan and then thought she wasn't gonna get caught is you know That's a that's apparent to the society that we live in now where women don't deal with consequences for their crimes against men She did it only because she thought she would get away because we have the society now where me too It's still very strong.

01:28:41.000 Like, yes, the Johnny Depp case brought light to it being problematic, but it is still very strong.

01:28:45.000 Like, the average man, this is Johnny Depp, he's still negative from that trial.

01:28:49.000 He lost money from the Pirates of the Caribbean.

01:28:52.000 He lost roles.

01:28:53.000 He lost opportunities.

01:28:54.000 He had the finances to take her to court and fight it.

01:28:58.000 But even though he's been able to get his reputation back to a degree, he still lost millions upon millions of dollars because he's still not whole.

01:29:06.000 from the money he lost, and on top of that, the money it cost him to hire that legal team to find her as liable for defamation, which he ended up winning.

01:29:13.000 But I think to this day, she still hasn't paid him.

01:29:16.000 So, you know, that was more of sending a message.

01:29:19.000 But the average man, unfortunately, doesn't have the ability to defend himself.

01:29:22.000 I mean, like, look at what's going on with Andrew Tate.

01:29:23.000 Luckily, he has the money to fight this shit.

01:29:25.000 But any man hit with these types of accusations or whatever isn't going to be able to stand up a Cooked. 0.99

01:30:03.000 Yeah, it's been crazy for a long time.

01:30:05.000 So she got a felony, right, for doing this? 0.99

01:30:08.000 I'm sure she did.

01:30:08.000 I don't know what the exact charges are, but if she called the police on a false police report and then that led to the death of someone, absolutely, she can, you know, look at like a manslaughter or something like that.

01:30:19.000 You know, it depends on every state's different, but yeah, I mean, like I said, it's good to see news like this become public and hopefully women will think twice before they do this bullshit. 1.00

01:30:28.000 Yeah, we need a lot more.

01:30:30.000 Attention on that we need to like when when women are doing that we should just call them Amber Heard because it brings up all That emotion that people remember from the trial. 0.98

01:30:38.000 Yeah. Yeah point the Amber Heard case was was great.

01:30:41.000 I think it was like landmark in the realm of justice for men from from female eyes is you know, but again, so few men can mount the defense like that and and bear the financial loss of Clear their name so few men can do it.

01:30:57.000 You know we've seen in Europe to soccer players getting accused I mean um Ronaldo had to deal with this shit Yeah, some chick. 0.83

01:31:03.000 You know it's kind of got buried, but some chick in Vegas accused him of Graping like an o9 or o10 or some shit like that, and you know obviously didn't have any teeth But dude this has been a problem for fucking decades man women making these accusations, and I think it's an over correction to the Yeah,

01:31:33.000 there's no need to get revenge on men today for what men did decades ago.

01:31:39.000 Correcting the problem is one thing, but then just saying, I should be allowed to get away with whatever I want because something happened to some woman 40 years ago is just insane.

01:31:47.000 It's just entitlement.

01:31:50.000 Telling them that they can get away with stuff and they're entitled to do it and it's that's that's the that's the through line to all the problems we're experiencing right now.

01:31:59.000 So yeah, I guess whole math just for my final question here for me.

01:32:02.000 Hey guys like the video we got well over 7,000 you guys watching this thing live right now.

01:32:06.000 Facts man.

01:32:06.000 So guys do me a favor gonna have a zoom call with whole math after this you guys gonna be able to ask him questions, etc.

01:32:11.000 You know, so stay tuned and then we might have something else cool for you guys after that with the after hours, but Like the video guys, and go ahead Fresh.

01:32:19.000 W Collab man, thank you for coming.

01:32:21.000 Also go to his channel as well.

01:32:22.000 Oh yeah, go subscribe to his channel if you haven't.

01:32:24.000 We're gonna put it in the description for y'all, if you guys haven't already.

01:32:26.000 So, I guess from your findings, you've done a lot of research yourself as well, what is the, I guess, sort of aligning for us as men?

01:32:36.000 Is there gonna be a change where we go back to how things were more traditional?

01:32:41.000 Is it gonna get worse?

01:32:42.000 What's the actual That's a great question.

01:32:52.000 And it's a big question.

01:32:54.000 And I don't love predictions, especially when they are complex.

01:33:00.000 So I would say That if you want a white pill, you know, if you want hope for the future, you want to look at things like Amber Heard.

01:33:10.000 You want to look at cases like that.

01:33:12.000 You want to recognize that, you know, with what we talked about a minute ago with that 51.4% Of women, was it over 30, I think, don't have kids. 0.57

01:33:22.000 That's not going to be good for them.

01:33:25.000 There are going to be consequences for the way that they've been behaving, and that's going to have an impact, and people are going to have to deal with it.

01:33:32.000 They're just going to have to.

01:33:34.000 And that is going to eventually force a correction in some of this stuff that's going on.

01:33:43.000 I don't know if we're going to be able to turn it around in time.

01:33:48.000 Like, I don't know if you guys have been following the mathematics of population collapse, but they're saying some people are projecting that in South Korea, they might have 4% of the population they have now in a few generations, because that's just what happens when people stop having kids.

01:34:06.000 Every generation gets smaller and smaller.

01:34:09.000 The graph looks like this, like over the Old ones are here, and the young ones are here.

01:34:15.000 The graph just goes down and down and down, because the younger generation has to, you know, support the old one of Social Security, so they can't afford to have their own kids, and they basically just disappear.

01:34:25.000 It might get that bad.

01:34:27.000 It might turn around.

01:34:30.000 I'm not sure.

01:34:32.000 All that I'm sure of is that bringing more attention to this stuff is what works.

01:34:39.000 You know, telling the truth about it, pointing it out, and getting people to understand it.

01:34:43.000 That's the direction you want to go in.

01:34:45.000 Okay. But I don't know if we're gonna get there in time.

01:34:48.000 Okay. Good point.

01:34:50.000 Listen, man, I personally think that, like, where we're going right now, it's gonna be harder for men, from my point of view.

01:34:57.000 But I do see where, like, we're getting some small wins here.

01:35:01.000 But in the actual spectrum of the world itself and where we're at, I don't see us going back to traditional values like we were back in the day because they don't want to give up their power now.

01:35:11.000 It's almost like we're getting too much power and we're going to hold on to it forever, as long as possible.

01:35:16.000 But you're right, it's going to break at some point.

01:35:18.000 Well, you know how they say there are no atheists in a foxhole, right?

01:35:22.000 You heard that one?

01:35:23.000 No, but tell me.

01:35:25.000 It means like if you're in the middle of a war and you're about to die, suddenly you want God to help.

01:35:32.000 So there's no atheists in war. 0.57

01:35:35.000 There are no feminists in poverty. 1.00

01:35:38.000 So if we get that bad, they're gonna have to just deal with reality.

01:35:43.000 Good point.

01:35:44.000 Actually, I would argue a lot of countries that are not as, I would say, well off as America are more like that because, again, survival isn't more important than how you feel about certain things or just maybe because I can, I will do.

01:35:57.000 So yes, that's a very good point.

01:35:59.000 Yeah, they don't have the luxury.

01:36:00.000 They don't have the luxury to say I can do what I want and I'm a 10 they just go I need a man to Play a role in my life And so I got to behave or else I won't get one and they just are the girls around us just don't have to do that right now, but They will one day.

01:36:16.000 All right And then uh, so I know you've been doing videos for quite some time good stuff, bro Love the views love the content when we get a face show man face Like, I guess, reveal.

01:36:26.000 When it benefits me the absolute most.

01:36:30.000 I'm just going to time that and calculate it.

01:36:32.000 Like, right now, it's about the content.

01:36:35.000 And, uh, you know, I don't want to show my goofy old face.

01:36:37.000 I used to look good.

01:36:38.000 I don't look quite as good anymore.

01:36:40.000 I'm 40, you know?

01:36:41.000 Yeah. So, when it, like, if I ever calculate that it is going to get me more than it's going to lose me, then I'll do it.

01:36:48.000 But right now, I'm comfy.

01:36:50.000 Okay. Well said.

01:36:52.000 Alright, we got any more test bills before we, uh, head up?

01:36:57.000 No, I'm asking my producer.

01:36:59.000 Oh, okay.

01:37:00.000 Oh chats.

01:37:01.000 Gotcha. So, um, what we're gonna do guys is we're gonna go ahead and transition into the zoom call.

01:37:06.000 Um, Homat's gonna take a quick little break.

01:37:08.000 He's got to get some water stuff like that, but we're gonna start the zoom call in about two minutes.

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01:37:35.000 It's awesome.

01:37:36.000 So we're going to have a Q&A right now with Homath.

01:37:41.000 We're going to pin it in the comments.

01:37:42.000 And then he's also going to join us for after hours.

01:37:43.000 He won't be there the whole show.

01:37:45.000 Awesome. But he's going to be able to join us for after hours with some lovely ladies. 1.00

01:37:48.000 He's going to ask the girls some questions.

01:37:50.000 So we'll let him go first and ask the girls questions.

01:37:52.000 We can go ahead and it'll be awesome, I think, to see their reactions to the fucking charts.

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Fresh & Fit - April 02, 2025

Hoe Math Meets Fresh&Fit

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