In this episode of the Freshman Podcast, we are joined by YouTuber Homath to talk about the Red Pill and how to effectively communicate it to women. We discuss the differences between how women and men understand the information presented to them.
00:17:47.000Obviously, I've watched a good amount of your stuff.
00:17:50.000Love the illustrative content, which demonstrates very important Red Pill points and explains it to people that might, you know, just be normies and not understand the current sexual marketplace.
00:18:00.000Can you introduce yourself to the people real quick, for those that don't know who you are?
00:18:07.000I make videos of various lengths, explaining, basically, it starts with the dating crisis that we're in.
00:18:15.000And it goes into, I have expertise in psychology, particularly developmental psychology, and I have studied a system that I use to explain the ways that people are thinking.
00:18:26.000I've got some drawings and some maps about that here, called AQL, made by Ken Wilber, A-Q-A-L.
00:18:33.000So I get really intellectual about it, and the reason that people tune in for my stuff is that I am very, very good at Saying things in ways that make them very easy to understand and people will like a lot of parents have been Messaging me lately and saying I'm showing all my stuff to your daughter because I don't want her growing up not knowing it Wow So that's basically what I do yeah, and you know it and it's interesting because Here's the thing one of the criticisms.
00:19:02.000I get often is that I'm very crass rude Maybe too direct for women to take the message in it's not palatable enough for me You know, and I've always said, look, our audience is men.
00:19:12.000We focus on getting this information out to men and men typically tend to do better with direct information and, you know, kid in this versus women tend to care far more about how the information is conveyed.
00:19:21.000And I think your analytical approach and statistically backed, you know, research information, where you put it in a very nice and articulate, eloquent manner, I think that's a bit more, you know, digestible for women to take.
00:19:35.000And obviously we're always going to get the, you know, You're a misogynist, you're a sexist, allegations, but I would say the way you bring out the information is definitely better for the masses in general, which is great because at the end of the day we want this information getting out.
00:19:49.000Everyone has a different style, you know, you illustrate it, we tell the girls they're dumb hoes, Rolos Masi does it from an academic standpoint, so everyone has a different way, but we're all pretty much getting to the same bottom line.
00:20:02.000We're all talking about, we're all framing it a different way and we all have different audiences and I do have, you know, quite a few women, usually like pretty high quality women too, like exactly the kind that I want to talk to who are fans of mine and show up to my live streams and are, you know, really understand what I'm doing and enjoy what I'm doing.
00:20:25.000It is, I think, I think it's a little bit You know,
00:20:51.000isn't it amazing how Because I'm sure you deal with the same thing.
00:20:55.000Maybe not as much as we do, but one of the things I've noticed from talking to, we're over 3,500 women now on this show, is they put an incredible amount of emphasis on how information is conveyed to them versus the Yeah.
00:21:54.000And it's not to say that women can't be logical and men don't have feelings, but it's that women need to feel seen and understood.
00:22:03.000And included and that they have something to gain and they need to feel, I don't know if respected is the right word for it, but they need to be comfortable with what's being said and how it's being said.
00:22:14.000And it can be very difficult to tell the truth that way, because the truth is very, usually very uncomfortable, particularly the kind of truth that that we talk about.
00:22:24.000So it's like a lot of things you just can't say.
00:22:27.000There are some people who just don't want to hear things.
00:23:12.000I haven't done it officially, like I haven't A, B tested or anything.
00:23:15.000But all the guys who came to me because they love the name HoMath and they think it's funny, they're all like, if you change to SoulMath, I'm unsubscribing.
00:23:43.000That is one option, but it could be a little bit less abrasive.
00:23:47.000But as for the question, yeah, I do definitely have women Come back to me and say that they applied what I told them and that it worked right away.
00:23:58.000I had been trying to be a life coach for years before these videos took off because I've always known that I was good at it.
00:24:05.000I did some life coaching, you know, people bought an hour or a half hour at a time.
00:24:10.000And especially during those sessions when I could get really deep with somebody and ask them what happened, what's going on, how do you, like, you know, I would have, like, A very high rate of breakthroughs in one session.
00:24:52.000So let me ask you this because, you know, like I said, you're in the same world as us, so you see all the same problems, but you come from a more stats-based thing and you're really explaining and breaking things down.
00:26:02.000Uh, problem number two is that if a guy gets to the quality that, you know, an average woman of five or six, like, would want that guy, he is so popular that he does not need to settle for just one.
00:26:16.000This was one of the stories that I told when I made, um, Zones for the first time.
00:26:21.000This was my first big project back when I was still mostly a TikToker.
00:26:25.000I told a story about how when I used to drive for Lyft and Uber, I had this girl in the back seat, well, two of them, and they were kind of like testing me and making fun of me at first, but they figured out that I was, you know, smart, that I kind of knew what was going on.
00:26:40.000And she asked me, I'm seeing this guy and he's seeing all these other girls, how do I make him pick me?
00:26:46.000And I had to like really, really slowly walk her through, basically, if he's got other girls, why would he pick one?
00:26:53.000Well, what what is why is one better than four and she didn't know what to do with that?
00:26:57.000So that that would be problem number two that first of all they can't tell who likes them for real and who doesn't and second of all Once they do like a guy for real They almost all of them have so many options that they don't want to settle down to their 40 so The guys the problems that they have are number one just can't get any attention It just isn't worth it.
00:27:31.000This is a problem that I had increasingly.
00:27:35.000When I started taking care of myself, I became more appealing to women about 2008, 2009.
00:27:43.000And I did not have that problem for years.
00:27:46.000And when I started having it, I thought it was because I was getting older.
00:27:49.000But now all the young guys are saying the same thing.
00:27:51.000So it seems like a cultural, just like a broad cultural shift towards, if you are not like a very top guy, it's hard to get any attention at all.
00:28:03.000Yeah. So, you know, it's interesting that you're, that you're saying this man, because, um, it's incredible.
00:28:11.000I truly do believe one of the biggest reasons why the red pill is exploding popularity.
00:28:16.000Cause this thing has been around forever, right?
00:28:17.000This type of knowledge has been around since the, 80s, 90s, so suave, old forums, etc.
00:28:23.000But what I've realized is that it was kind of like a pseudo undercover community that like, you know, you had to kind of really be in the club to be able to get this information.
00:28:33.000And I do think a big reason why it's exploding popularity and so many guys are, you know, involved in this movement now is because it's affecting more men.
00:28:44.000I think with the modernization of technology, social media and dating apps, It's made it significantly harder for men to get noticed by women because the sexual marketplace has been opened up to women and guys that would have had a fighting chance maybe 20 years ago because the women weren't subject to the globalized sexual marketplace, those same guys that would have been able to clean up in the 90s are struggling now because their competition is becoming way harder.
00:29:09.000I think that's a big reason why the red pill is exploding popularity because a lot of guys are dealing with this problem and I always break it down to this one thing.
00:29:27.000They're fickle They're non-decisive, and I think that's why so many guys have had this problem It's just become worse and worse and worse decade by decade by decade and technology has exacerbated the problem and real interestingly enough We did an interview with coach Greg Adams, and I want to get your take on this We actually since he's an older guy.
00:29:44.000He's like in his 50s With Coach Greg Adams, I was able to ask him, can you tell us the differences in the sexual marketplace by decade?
00:29:52.000And we went from the 1980s to the 1990s to the 2000s to the 2010s.
00:29:57.000And according to him, he said the biggest shift to put men at a disadvantage and put women at an advantage was the 2010s.
00:30:07.000And I was going to interrupt you and say that.
00:30:19.000So I guess in your experience, what were some of the biggest differences you saw and why the 2010 shift was the most profound, in your opinion?
00:30:27.000Why was the 2010 shifts most profound, most profound?
00:30:30.000I think it's because that's when the all of the most desirable women, you know, the early 20s.
00:30:37.000That is when they entered the dating scene, having grown up with, like, being technology natives, internet natives.
00:30:49.000They grew up with, like, those were, some of them were iPad kids.
00:30:52.000That's, that generation, it was so, like, the girls today are, I can't, I can't help it.
00:30:59.000I know that This is the right place to say it, but some people don't like it.
00:31:03.000When I was 18, I liked 25-year-old girls.
00:31:05.000When I was 25, I liked 25-year-old girls.
00:31:07.000When I was 35, I liked 25-year-old girls.
00:31:11.000The qualities that they have has changed so much in just a couple decades.
00:31:19.000I really want to talk to some high school kids about this, or maybe some guys who just got out of high school.
00:31:25.000When I was in high school, normal guys had a chance with normal girls who they sat in class with and saw around school.
00:31:35.000And what I'm hearing today, like I don't want to go, you know, claiming anything that I don't know for sure, but what I'm hearing today and what I feel like is probably true is that those girls, the ones that would have been, you know...
00:31:46.000So, in the Those girls who got that first wave of blasting
00:33:10.000a flip phone a fucking razor like yeah there was no smartphone so like now i can't even imagine the young men that have access to tiktok and instagram whatever you're trying to get a prom date it might be hard for you to even do that just in your high school so um and then college uh when i went to college instagram wasn't a thing yet it was just starting to become a thing but it wasn't like what it is now so You know, things have changed significantly where I think young men nowadays, um, I feel for them, man.
00:33:34.000I think they're absolutely getting, um, they have way less options and it's way harder for them to meet a woman versus for us, right?
00:33:40.000Because we come from the same generation.
00:34:28.000I would DM girls, talk for a little bit, and let's say DM like 20 girls, out at 20, maybe going at 10 dates.
00:34:35.000But from that, it's funny, I send them a DM, but I know off of just like options to help people operate, especially in Miami, they have other DMs from other guys too as well.
00:34:44.000So what's scary is that like, these girls that were in my city, pretty much, would come see me, they see my homeboy, and they see my other homeboy.
00:34:53.000So to me it's like, and it's funny, they look, starting on Instagram, they look like a Maybe like an 8 or 9?
00:35:19.000But in person, she's like a 6. You know what I'm saying?
00:35:22.000So like, to me, this whole thing of Instagram, bro, it Put the push out there marketplace of I want to say faulty products and people will fell for it.
00:35:29.000So it's way out, bro Yeah, it's a lot of deception.
00:35:51.000And it's about how modern life demands more of us than we actually have.
00:35:56.000We just, our brains can't handle the stimulation we're getting. We evolved in jungles, basically.
00:36:03.000We evolved in forests, and we would see every once in a while a bird and then run from a lion.
00:36:09.000And now today we're getting blasted with all this high-intensity stimulation.
00:36:14.000You can sit in your bed and flip through all the hot girls and pictures of whatever exciting.
00:36:21.000This drawing that I brought out was an illustration I did for an old TikTok about how They don't understand.
00:36:29.000They can't understand because the girl's experience with the apps is so different from the guy's experience that when they complain and they say, �Oh, the apps suck,� the girl says, �You're just dumb.
00:36:38.000You're just not doing it right.� And my suggestion is get that girl to write your profile for you and then use it and then have her see what her results are.
00:36:47.000And I actually did this with three different girls.
00:36:49.000I had them take my profile and I actually asked them, find a guy on the same app who you find is attractive, like from a different city, right?
00:37:42.000The three girls that I did that experiment with, They were nice to me, they were friends of mine, but they didn't go beyond saying, oh, that sucks, I'm sorry.
00:38:34.000Right. Watching her struggle, right, using his Tinder profile and his pictures to get him a date was fucking, well, it was hilarious.
00:38:45.000But for her, it was extremely eye-opening as to what men deal with.
00:38:48.000And, you know, I said this on a podcast and a lot of people get angry at me for saying this, but I truly do believe that women lack empathy when it comes to the male experience.
00:38:56.000And, you know, they'll sit there and they'll say, oh, I'm a, I'm a, They'll say I'm sympathetic, but I'm like, well, you're not empathetic though.
00:39:02.000You might feel sorry for the fact that it's hard for men to get dates, but you're not able to actually understand because if you did understand, you wouldn't do half the shit that you do.
00:39:10.000But I don't think women really understand the male experience.
00:39:12.000And that girl going through that Tinder experience of running a man's profile, pretending to be him, struggling to get dates, struggling to get girls to respond, getting matched with a hundred girls, but then not being able to close any of them or even get a phone number, or how some of them would just send one word responses when she would spend her time to really send Well thought out messages like shoot look at the girl's profile find like something to comment on that wasn't sexual Yeah on her hobbies or whatever which is what women tell you to do all the time,
00:39:37.000right? Yeah, she actually employed that strategy and she was really frustrated and angry how like the women didn't respond.
00:39:45.000They don't know they don't know what they respond to.
00:39:48.000Yeah, it was so great to see And dude by the end of it she was crying at the end of the video she was fucking crying like I can't believe that this is what men go through and Yeah, it was it was really interesting if anyone hasn't seen it But I don't know if you have an illustration that demonstrates that but yeah man dating apps are cool for men Yeah, I am I am looking for it.
00:40:06.000I know I have it I'm just like I don't know if you can see that I cut all my pictures up And I'm trying to organize them in a more effective way, but what's that's great?
00:40:15.000Home after real quick Just from your findings.
00:40:17.000Do you think sorry when do you think is the time women finally say you know what all right?
00:40:29.000What do I think the time is yeah like for example?
00:40:31.000Maybe what age what time I think it's I think it's as soon as they start to realize that they're not getting the same level of attention anymore as soon as they start getting turned down by the kind of guys that they could easily get before that's when they start saying Oh, uh-oh, I need a provider now.
00:40:48.000I did open this up to answer the last question.
00:40:51.000This is, I don't know if you know this, Zones.
00:40:54.000It's like the centerpiece of what I do.
00:40:56.000It breaks down what women are looking for in men.
00:40:59.000There's two variables, and then what men are looking for in women, there's one.
00:41:32.000I probably put on YouTube too, but they are, There's like on the street interview and they're asking a woman, do you want nice guys or bad boys?
00:41:41.000And she goes, oh, nice guys, definitely.
00:41:42.000And people ask me to explain what that means.
00:41:45.000What it means is that she's been getting these guys, the guys who are only attractive and won't be nice to her.
00:41:52.000And it doesn't mean that she wants this guy, the guy who's nice but not attractive.
00:41:57.000It means she wants the guy who's nice and attractive.
00:42:00.000So, she's been getting the attractive guys and what she wants is the perfect man, instead of giving up the attraction to get some more of the niceness.
00:42:08.000They just don't understand the difference between what they say they want and what they actually want.
00:42:15.000Yeah. No, it's, it's, uh, and that's a fantastic chart that like kind of illustrates the different, um, levels of, uh, where it goes, you know?
00:42:23.000And, uh, so my, my thing is like, I think men that are red pillow wear, you know, understand this to a degree, but like, what is it like when you show this chart to women?
00:42:33.000Well, most of them don't want to hear it.
00:43:12.000pretty good at understanding it and sometimes they might say something like oh my god Really is that how men think and is that what they think we're saying?
00:43:19.000But when I tell them yes, yes, it really is.
00:43:22.000They usually don't like fight over it.
00:43:24.000Let me know this Oh, I was gonna ask you this good what I've noticed And again, it's it's you know correlation is not causation So I'm not inferring that but what I have noticed is the hotter the girl the more delusional she can afford to be Where you know?
00:43:39.000If you take like a girl that's very attractive, maybe some followers on Instagram, whatever, and you show her this chart, she might scoff at you and say, I don't give a shit what you think.
00:43:47.000Would it be fair to say that women become a bit more pragmatic and realistic as they age and their sexual market value goes down?
00:43:53.000Is it easier for you, in other words, is it easier for you to bring this information to them without them, you know, dismissing you?
00:44:00.000I mean, again, it depends on the kind of woman.
00:44:02.000I think that's kind of the answer that I'm giving.
00:44:04.000It depends on how smart she is and how grown up she is and all that kind of thing.
00:44:12.000Like the more intelligent younger women that I meet are definitely able to handle this information, what I tell them and learn from it and everything.
00:44:20.000I think that you're right that as women get older, they do sort of give up on looking for the perfect guy and they settle a little bit more.
00:44:28.000But I think that there's also a tendency to to settle while still secretly hoping for the perfect man to show up.
00:44:37.000So it's not like they actually change emotionally and become satisfied with less.
00:44:43.000They just are willing to accept less because they realize that they're pushing 40 or whatever.
00:44:47.000And and then when they get the guy, they there's some chance that they're going to resent him.
00:44:53.000They're going to look at him and be alpha widowed by whoever was in the past and look at their husband and say, well, you're you weren't my number one choice.
00:45:03.000So they change their behavior, but not their feelings, I think most mostly.
00:45:10.000Yep, because you can absolutely change your behavior and okay I got to get this done, but grit your teeth and wish for something else.
00:46:12.000So, um, what is your, um, of all the drawings that you have here, what is the one that you always use, like, give me the drawing that you use the most on men, and then the one that you use the most for women.
00:46:20.000Well, this one is the one that I use most, overall.
00:46:26.000Whenever I'm explaining like you know the differences between how men and women think like I'm making a video right now That's all about this section purity.
00:46:34.000There's a girl who says basically What is what body count is too high and so I'm explaining to her.
00:46:41.000That's not just the number of bodies It's like who were they and what are you doing with your life?
00:46:46.000And do you have kids and you have guy friends and all that stuff like weighs in?
00:46:49.000Because we just don't want to get attached to somebody who has been through so much that nothing makes you feel good anymore.
00:47:00.000So this one is the one that I use on almost every video.
00:47:04.000There's a lot of things that I keep coming back to that are like smaller drawings.
00:47:11.000Like this one was very effective for teaching men about how to deal with it when your new girlfriend begins, you know, It's giving you hell for nothing.
00:47:42.000But yeah, zones is really, like, it's the centerpiece of everything.
00:47:45.000It's all kind of built on top of this, because the real problem is that Men don't know what women want and why, and men don't know what women want and why.
00:47:57.000Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, something that's very important to know, I'm glad that you mentioned that.
00:48:02.000There's a lot of blue-pilled men out there that, you know, that don't think or understand or have this grasp on sexual inner dynamics like we do.
00:48:09.000A lot of guys are really operating in the fucking dark when it comes to this stuff.
00:48:12.000Now, have more men become red-pilled on this stuff?
00:48:16.000Awareness of female nature for sure, but at the end of the day We're still guys that are aware of this stuff is still like less than 10% of the male population Yeah, probably less than five so I can see how these charts are extremely useful For men to understand where how women kind of move things and then with women They're blue pill to women are feminism is like the blueprints for women but like women could afford to be blue pill because they don't have to be in a position to Well, yeah, it's beneficial for them.
00:48:45.000Like, being blue-pilled as a woman is, like, that is how you get power.
00:48:48.000That's why they hate the red pill so much, because they know it's how men get power.
00:48:52.000Well, they might not know it consciously, but when they hear men start to say, I understand this about women, the women go, uh-oh, now I can't trick you as easily.
00:49:03.000That's kind of why they don't like it because they want to be able to tell, you know, the undesirable guys to keep providing for them while they don't date them, keep them in the friend zone.
00:49:16.000Are you guessing that or are there like surveys?
00:49:57.000That was cool to have that mindset of, yeah bro, let's just give everybody welfare and stuff and we're gonna just like, you know, socialism.
00:50:06.000I would say like this young generation has become far more conservative about our generation uh me you home uh me you home math uh fresh etc guys are born in the 90s 80s like When we were growing up it was cool to be a liberal but people growing up now it's cool to be conservative.
00:50:24.000And some guys woke up and went more right like myself and you and stuff like that because to be red pill you inherently have to have conservative viewpoints to some degree.
00:50:32.000But some guys stayed blue pill like Hassan and I would argue a lot of men in our age demographic view things the way he does.
00:50:40.000Egalitarian sexual marketplace which is simply not how it goes.
00:50:44.000Yeah, yeah, that was it was it was a lot of I had a lot of trouble with that I had a lot of trouble relating to people as I learned because they don't they don't want to I think that you're spot-on with that So everybody in my kind of cohort, you know my age bracket As I started dealing with reality, I would naturally bring it up to my friends and they were, like, I lived in a big blue city for a while.
00:51:09.000I lived in two major cities for between, I think, 20, was it?
00:51:13.000I got there in 2013 and I stayed there until, like, 2022, I left in 2022.
00:51:20.000And they just don't, they still, I don't know what it's like now, it's a few years later, but they just get so much, they got so many social points for simping.
00:51:30.000If they say the popular thing, even if it's obviously wrong, then everyone praises them and pats them on the head, and they don't want to give that up.
00:51:38.000There was one time I was driving a guy home, dropping him off at his house, and we just came to a point in the conversation where I said something that was a little bit too far for him, and he actually got, like, kind of shook, and he said, You're not like a spy, are you? You trying to get me to say something so you can tell everybody else?
00:51:58.000Even the guys who do know, they're terrified.
00:52:00.000Yeah, and you know, I think it's because in our generation, the millennial generation, I'm getting in the weeds here, but anyone here in the chat that's in their 30s, 40s, whatever, I would argue that this whole cancel culture, being woke, etc.
00:52:16.000I always blame, I don't want to blame you, but I point to the Obama era as the era that started to bring in race politics, gay marriage, acceptance and inclusivity, DEI.
00:52:27.000It started with the Obama administration, right?
00:52:58.000Guys in our generation, millennials, they either woke up and they're red pill now, and they understand that they've been lied to in their 20s and shit.
00:53:05.000Or they stay like Hasan Piker and they believe in this egalitarian system between men and women or that they're equal.
00:53:12.000And look, someone like a Piker, right, who's famous and has a bunch of money, he could go ahead and afford to be blue-pilled.
00:53:18.000It's fine because his status and And his money will override a lot of the bad blue pill things that he would do But if a normie guy making 60 70 K per year regular guy regular looks was to apply these blue pill mindset tendencies of egalitarianism he's gonna get cooked and I would argue just like you said our generation not only brought this stupid-ass mindset in but we also are Are terrified of anyone that is red pill so it makes sense that your guy would be like,
00:53:48.000Because like that's just how terrified we are from this woke generation.
00:53:51.000Yeah, I used to get canceled for this shit Yeah, well we used to it.
00:53:55.000It's going it's a lot less like I think that Elon buying Twitter and turning it into X has really changed that a lot and Trump winning it just seems like it changed the whole temperature of the country and of the world consequently and people are saying a lot about More than they used to I did want to just before I forgot I did want to say that the Obama era obviously was like a big acceleration of all this yeah,
00:54:20.000and There's just there was one day in 2014 where I just realized I can't go one day without hearing about Transsexualism and I've heard about it pretty much every day ever since it's been it was it was like nobody ever talked about that In the 2000s or in the 90s.
00:54:38.000And not even really around the Obama era, but 2014 it just kind of turned on and stayed on forever.
00:54:45.000Never heard it once in the Bush administration.
00:54:55.000I'm 35, I was born in 90. So I'm 5 years younger than you, yeah.
00:54:58.000But same, I guess we're the same generation.
00:55:01.000Yeah, yeah, it's close enough, but I mean the five-year difference, maybe you don't remember back in the 90s They used to always say it's the 90s that was like the way that they would They it was anytime anything was weird or different or progressive or like like in mrs. Doubtfire If if if your fans don't know that movie,
00:55:22.000it's like Robin Williams dresses up as an old lady so he can see his kids while he's in the middle of a divorce and he's sitting with his boss and Uh,
00:55:59.000Having group-based fights instead of hating the government, who really is the problem.
00:56:30.000There's nothing conservative about Joe Rogan.
00:56:34.000He still has all the same values that were far left in the Obama era.
00:56:40.000It's just that what people expect of you has gotten insane.
00:56:43.000The things they expect you to say and believe and go along with.
00:56:47.000So, moving forward for the future of dating itself, what do you see happening with men and women actually getting together, getting married?
00:56:55.000Is that still a viable option, you think?
00:57:04.000And I think that just like there was like one day in 2014 before you heard about transsexual every day.
00:57:11.000I think there's going to be a day coming where there's not going to be a day that goes by where people don't look around and go like, well, where's all the families and where's all the kids and what's going on here?
00:57:24.000You know, I watch the whatever podcast.
00:57:27.000I-I obviously I'm flipping through all these videos all day, so I'm getting mega doses of it, but even when I go out in the world in places that There's what I'm trying to get at is there's this argument people make that like, it's the internet, get off the internet.
00:57:53.000And you've got women just offering men deals that are no good.
00:57:58.000Like I've been talking to a lot of guys my age about who they're dating and the situations are terrible.
00:58:04.000There was one guy I knew who was explaining to me I think he was trying to rationalize it.
00:58:10.000He was trying to tell himself a story about why it was okay.
00:58:13.000He was dating this woman who continued to see her ex who didn't want to date her.
00:58:19.000So he was the bad boy and then he was like the clean up guy.
00:58:23.000And he was like, well, there's many ways to have relationships.
00:58:25.000He just wanted to find a way to feel good about it because that's all that he had on offer.
00:58:30.000And as that gets worse, because I don't see it getting better, Um, men are just going to check out and they have been.
00:58:37.000Like, there are some guys in my fan base, in my comments, who there's nothing I can say.
00:58:43.000They're so traumatized that if I tell them your best option is to just get better as a person, they will snap on me and they'll say, oh, you want me to just be a slave to the system?
00:58:54.000You want me to go work 60 hours a week and pay all my taxes to people who, you know, just call me an incel?
00:58:59.000And it's like, no, I just said get in shape or something.
00:59:12.000The black pill is absolutely real a lot of guys Are black billed where they're like a no level of self-improvement?
00:59:20.000Matters right they say looks are the only thing it doesn't matter if I increase my status or my money looks for everything then you got the other guys that You know, that are doomsdayers and they say, you know, I'm just gonna get prostitutes.
00:59:31.000Or then you got other, like, what I realized is there's different ways to deal with it.
00:59:35.000Right? And, you know, say I'm going all the way away from women.
00:59:39.000A lot of those guys are also black-filled and saying I'm going all the way, and their reasoning for going away from women is because they're black-filled.
00:59:44.000Other guys are like, you know, I'm just going to play the game and deal with the marketplace the way it is and self-improve and adapt.
00:59:49.000And then other guys say, well, I'm just going to change the marketplace and I'm going to go somewhere where I automatically have higher sexual market value.
00:59:55.000This is why we've seen the explosion of the passport bro over the past five years.
00:59:59.000Like being a passport bro used to be like a kept secret.
01:00:03.000This is like what Roosh used to talk about.
01:00:05.000In the early 2000s, and this is why he got banned from so many countries.
01:00:08.000He wrote bang Ukraine, bang Poland, whatever.
01:00:11.000I vividly remember, like, Roosh V talked about how he'd be in Poland and he'd hold his American passport like this and just like fan himself with it and girls would come up to him and I was like, what the fuck?
01:00:19.000Yeah. But obviously being a passport bro now, secret's out.
01:00:23.000You can't, you're not able to do the things you used to do before, but it's just like, there's been different ways to adapt to the sexual marketplace.
01:00:31.000But I think the bottom line is simply that It's very difficult to deal with women in a modern-day society, I think is what it is.
01:00:37.000Actually, you made a good point about passport, bros.
01:00:40.000HomeMath, is that a viable option, you think, for guys to go down that path and go somewhere else, out of the US, to find their dream girl?
01:00:45.000I mean, I don't know that much about the different cultures and the rates of success that people are having.
01:00:51.000I do know that a lot of, like, you know, I grew up in a suburb, like a pretty middle-to-upper-middle-class suburb.
01:01:01.000I grew up with just a bunch of white guys, mostly.
01:01:04.000It was a pretty diverse place for the time, but it was like, I don't know, 90% white.
01:01:10.000All those guys that I grew up with, it's like almost all of them have Hispanic wives and girlfriends.
01:01:25.000They definitely from what I'm seeing like very directly in my first-order contacts like the people who I've known for a while They're taking those options.
01:01:38.000I don't know Like what it what it's like to go to Colombia versus Brazil versus Vietnam or anything like that but the fact that the Western I
01:02:53.000Fault. American women are giving up on marriage.
01:02:56.000You know, when Chelsea Handler, my ex, you know, when we had that internet beef three years ago, it's because I was citing a report from Morgan Stanley called the she economy, not the economy, but the she economy.
01:03:07.000And basically saying by 2025, which the year we're in now, they anticipate that 45% of working women between 18 and 40 will be childless, no married, no kids.
01:03:18.000Well, the report was wrong because they said 45%.
01:04:18.000But these feminists, you know, a lot of them, the Sex and the City lifestyle, etc.
01:04:23.000They put out this propaganda that you can have it all, Sheryl Sandberg, etc.
01:04:27.000And we're actually beating what we anticipated.
01:04:30.000We thought it was going to be 45 percent.
01:04:32.000Now it's up to 51. And it kind of goes with what you were saying before, Matt, that It's gonna get worse, and we're actually getting there faster than we thought we would.
01:04:41.000Yep. Yep, it is looking like the birth rates are also getting bad faster than we thought they would, which is like, I mean, there's something called, I don't know if you guys know about accelerationism, there's something to be said for if we see the problems move faster, then people will be motivated to solve them sooner.
01:04:59.000I do really hate it when people like Chelsea Handler, when like rich celebrities who have every opportunity in the world, like the top percent of a percent of a percent of everyone who's ever existed, tell normal women that you can live like this and you can have infinity options.
01:05:16.000I don't like it when, Um, older women tell younger women, like, waste your 20s.
01:05:37.000When, when someone gets something that wrong, It usually is not a mistake.
01:05:42.000It usually is either stupid or evil, and I don't think that that many people can be stupid.
01:05:46.000I'm worried that they might be spreading that kind of message on purpose, deliberately, to make these problems worse.
01:05:52.000And I want to add in, so what ended up happening after this conversation was, you know, Patrick Beddavid and Adam actually got in a pretty heated argument over this.
01:06:00.000And the long story short is, Patrick Beddavid said, well, the reason why you're finding these women that are, you know, not marriage material or long term, because Adam was saying like, yo, this is a problem.
01:06:11.000And it's, you know, it's pervasive in all groups of women.
01:06:15.000And Patrick Beddavid countered and said, well, you're looking in the wrong places.
01:06:19.000And I actually thought Adam was correct on this.
01:06:21.000And I did a whole breakdown there, but I won't go into too much detail.
01:06:24.000But, you know, I think where you meet the women, yeah, that might mitigate some of the risks and the problems, right?
01:06:30.000Like, for example, meeting a girl at Barnes& Noble is probably going to lead to a higher likelihood of finding a better girl than meeting a girl at the club.
01:06:37.000But that's not going to absolve you of the inherent risk of dealing with modern women in the West in general.
01:06:42.000And I don't think PVD understands that because they've been married for like 20, 30 years.
01:06:46.000And, you know, obviously Adam is still in the marketplace.
01:06:49.000And it's amazing to me how like married men just simply don't have a finger on the pulse of what modern women are like.
01:06:55.000I mean, hell, if you got married five years ago, I would argue that you're probably going to be lost with how modern women operate today.
01:07:02.000The Barnes and Noble girls are also, they also can be pretty bad.
01:07:07.000Like I dated a bunch of intellectual kind of like literature girls and you would really be surprised that How they can parlay that sort of intellectualism into they're just very good with words, you know They're smart and they know how to read and they're very good at using words to just Legitimize, you know doing doing all this stuff that is destroying everything they talk about it being you know a new age They always say it's the year.
01:07:45.000Ethical non-monogamy, I think it's called.
01:07:48.000So, it's like, this has been kind of an issue for me, in what I do, because I do a little bit of life coaching, I give people a little bit of advice.
01:07:59.000And people will come to me and say, where do I find I don't And
01:08:33.000he's willing to marry you instead of playing around?
01:08:35.000I don't know where to find that, you know?
01:08:38.000It's like, how far past the point of no return are we?
01:08:41.000So there's a point where, like, men and women have similar issues, but also a point where I can see where women want what they want, and men want what they want as well.
01:08:50.000How do you bridge that gap between what we both don't understand we need versus what we want?
01:08:56.000What do you mean, bridge the gap between, like...
01:08:58.000So for example, a lot of men want a good woman that is Sexy like a eight nine ten that will stay at home cut and clean and just listen to whatever he says I'm gonna want a guy six feet, you know six figures good-looking that loves only them So it's two kind of like things where you may not find that right away or hard to find and how do you bridge?
01:09:18.000I got between telling them what they actually need versus what they want.
01:09:21.000Oh Yeah, well, that's something that I've been talking about in terms of like all this level stuff this developmental psych I made a video called Crisis, where I talked about how...
01:09:35.000I wish I had the levels chart printed out.
01:09:39.000Maybe I'll find a copy of it somewhere else.
01:09:41.000But basically, people are not growing up as much as they used to.
01:09:45.000So I have a chart where I have all of the researchers and all the developmental psychology perspectives that were significant over the last few decades.
01:09:57.000And I use that to talk about how, in general, people are expected to grow to the 5th level, which is like...
01:10:04.000it's 5 out of like 9. 9 that we have recorded.
01:10:08.000There might be more, but it's very, very rare.
01:10:13.000The Industrial Revolution, the Enlightenment, you know, that's the fifth level of consciousness, was what brought that forward.
01:10:21.000The fourth one was like agriculture and medieval times and traditional religion, like traditional fundamental religion, like Islam and Christianity.
01:10:31.000And the third one is more like biker gangs and When we landed in America, the Native Americans were living kind of at that level.
01:10:42.000It's a lower level of social organization, a lower level of cognitive development.
01:10:48.000And I think that because of various features of the time that we live in, people are not making it up to that fifth level anymore, and they're staying in this very selfish, self-serving Myron?
01:11:13.000They blame someone for the feeling and then they do something about it.
01:11:16.000And then this person goes and does the same thing back to them.
01:11:18.000And they never step out of themselves and look at, you know, should I be doing this?
01:11:57.000Like, yeah dude, like, like women can't take, I would argue they want to hurt you back even more the less they've experienced and typically more attractive women don't get played by men as much as they play men.
01:12:08.000So when they do get hit, they look at it like the ultimate, you know, I got to get my get back.
01:12:14.000Yeah, it's crazy because like, all right, until you get hit by it, you don't understand fully.
01:12:19.000But like, when you're playing games to a certain level, and then they can't hold the L. They will come at you so hard, bro.
01:12:41.000So when that happens to them, they just lose it.
01:12:43.000100%. Yeah, basically, yeah, and I've talked about this the other day.
01:12:48.000What I've realized, again, correlation is a causation, but what I've noticed is it tends to be the trend.
01:12:52.000The more attractive the woman is and the more men that she's had fun over her and give her what she wanted, the less she can take a no.
01:13:03.000And if she does take a no, and if she does get rejected, her response is going to be far more vindictive and evil because she is not used to being rejected by men.
01:13:15.000If you get rejected all the time, right, You're used to it.
01:13:18.000You kind of have a game plan on how to deal with it.
01:13:20.000But if you're someone that's never been rejected and you've only gotten the best out of men, and then a guy is able to finesse you, well, that's going to be a problem because you're not used to this type of behavior from men.
01:13:32.000This is why I've realized that like very vindictive women, if you break, excuse me, very attractive women, like we're talking top 1%, right?
01:13:39.000They get a bunch of men on them all the time where they have offers from millionaires, billionaires, whatever.
01:13:43.000If you play them, they're going to come for your neck.
01:14:46.000to refer to usually guys, almost always guys, who are doing something that's against their own best interests because they feel like they have to.
01:14:56.000So being a cuck is like taking care of a woman who's not doing anything for you.
01:15:09.000So they say like white guys, for example, who are always saying all that, all anti-white stuff, oh, I hate white people too.
01:15:17.000It's like, well, that's also cuck behavior because you are going along with something that's not good for you because you feel threatened by it, like you're not strong enough to deal with it.
01:15:49.000It's basically treating women like they are Like the other day I made a post about this this young girl this kind of just like this club girl who there's some pictures of her obviously Pretty obviously like I can't make any accusations, but she might have you know had a little bit too much fun that night and And, um, and she's running for Congress, I think.
01:16:11.000So I made a post about that and a bunch of guys showed up and said, well, what's the problem with just being pretty and dressing pretty and having a good time?
01:16:19.000And of course she's in like a mini skirt and fishnets and everything.
01:16:21.000It's like, I don't know if I want that person in Congress.
01:16:24.000And those guys showing up to defend her, that is simping.
01:16:27.000Because this is a woman who, you know, doesn't have the value you think she does.
01:16:31.000She is pretty, but I wouldn't, you know, be buying her a ring and here you are treating her like she's The Virgin Mary.
01:16:42.000Red Pill came from The Matrix, the movie The Matrix, and it symbolized Neo had the choice of taking either the red pill and waking up, seeing what the Matrix is, or the blue pill and going back to sleep and living in his dream.
01:16:55.000Uh, I love that definition of the red pill, because that's...
01:17:00.000I always like the truth, no matter how ugly and painful it is.
01:17:03.000But lately, over the past few years, maybe the past decade, it's kind of turned into, like, boy feminism, where it's just the male perspective is what's valuable, and the...
01:17:15.000and women are wrong, and everything like that.
01:17:17.000It came out of the desire to Understand the truth, not be fooled, not be naive.
01:17:50.000Uh, reference to the kind of guy that girls want and the kind of guy that girls don't.
01:17:55.000Alpha means good, beta means bad, alpha means strong, beta means weak.
01:17:59.000Uh, the traditional, uh, definition I think that came from biology when they were studying wolves of alpha and beta would be the one that, um, leads the behavior of the pack and then the one that responds.
01:18:11.000So there would be like, um, if you're the president, you're the alpha.
01:18:16.000And then you give an order and everyone responds to it.
01:18:34.000Hoflation. That just means that women are getting lower quality but cost more.
01:18:39.000It's pretty much the same thing as the housing market where you can go spend a half a million dollars on a two-bedroom house in Gary, Indiana or wherever.
01:20:50.000Bro, he don't say nothing bad Children of the fence 20 bucks appreciate that we could show it.
01:20:57.000I mean, I don't know what it is, but you support him in All right.
01:21:02.000Yeah, the other one we should have that one with the comedy thing and this thing over here trying to do the Dixie Sean Connery Yeah Also guys you can join the zoom call right after this on locals only we can do it link down below in the description box Yeah,
01:21:21.000okay, so guys we're gonna do a zoom call after the stream so save your questions for For this gonna be for Castle Club guys only so we're gonna do a zoom call you're gonna be able to hang out with Homath to ask him some questions We want only questions for Homath because obviously got a special guest and then we'll do another zoom call with just us in the future But okay 3Diglet says MLD is dumbass in the chat talking about frame lol is your frame with Angela And where was your frame with Saint?
01:22:22.000Yeah. So recently, there was a story about a not rapper, but more of a guy in the scene, Young Scooter, passing away in Atlanta.
01:22:31.000And what happened was is basically a woman that was dating one of his boys called the police and said in not too many words, Hey, there's an incident.
01:23:41.000Here we have here, and actually she was arrested because it is, um, as well because someone, what's the law?
01:23:47.000If somebody dies from a fake police call, I think you're, uh, charged with a felony, if I'm correct, but I'm not too sure about that, but I believe she should be charged with a felony.
01:23:55.000Anyway, I think we have here, yeah, here we go.
01:23:59.000Uh, so Rollstar posted this, Fulton County Sheriff's Office has released the mugshot of Demetria Spence, 31, who has been charged with making an alleged false 9-11 call that led to the death of rapper Young Scooter.
01:24:43.000It wasn't one of my most popular videos because it's just a very difficult thing to make simple.
01:24:50.000But basically, I started with the idea of how women are all saying that they're 10s.
01:24:55.000And people were asking, like, where does that come from?
01:24:59.000And so I got into the research and I just sort of broke down the way that men jockey for status and power and then the way that women do it is very, very different.
01:25:09.000Men are very open about it and they just...
01:26:35.000There was that girl a few years ago, I think, I can't remember the college, but there was an athlete, college athlete, and she accused him of the old essay, the old standby.
01:27:53.000Legally, yeah, uh Myron thoughts on this because obviously you have a more.
01:27:56.000Oh, yeah No, I mean, it's it's completely unacceptable and you know to see her get held accountable shows that we're going in the right direction but the whole fact that she thought she can do it in the first place speaks to where we stand as a society because Criminals don't commit crimes thinking they're gonna get caught criminals commit crimes thinking that they're gonna be able to get away because they feel as though they're in a favorable position to Not just commit the crime,
01:28:17.000but be able to get away and not deal with consequences for it later so the fact that she Concocted this plan conducted this plan and then thought she wasn't gonna get caught is you know That's a that's apparent to the society that we live in now where women don't deal with consequences for their crimes against men She did it only because she thought she would get away because we have the society now where me too It's still very strong.
01:28:41.000Like, yes, the Johnny Depp case brought light to it being problematic, but it is still very strong.
01:28:45.000Like, the average man, this is Johnny Depp, he's still negative from that trial.
01:28:49.000He lost money from the Pirates of the Caribbean.
01:28:54.000He had the finances to take her to court and fight it.
01:28:58.000But even though he's been able to get his reputation back to a degree, he still lost millions upon millions of dollars because he's still not whole.
01:29:06.000from the money he lost, and on top of that, the money it cost him to hire that legal team to find her as liable for defamation, which he ended up winning.
01:29:13.000But I think to this day, she still hasn't paid him.
01:29:16.000So, you know, that was more of sending a message.
01:29:19.000But the average man, unfortunately, doesn't have the ability to defend himself.
01:29:22.000I mean, like, look at what's going on with Andrew Tate.
01:29:23.000Luckily, he has the money to fight this shit.
01:29:25.000But any man hit with these types of accusations or whatever isn't going to be able to stand up a Cooked.
01:30:03.000Yeah, it's been crazy for a long time.
01:30:05.000So she got a felony, right, for doing this?
01:30:08.000I don't know what the exact charges are, but if she called the police on a false police report and then that led to the death of someone, absolutely, she can, you know, look at like a manslaughter or something like that.
01:30:19.000You know, it depends on every state's different, but yeah, I mean, like I said, it's good to see news like this become public and hopefully women will think twice before they do this bullshit.
01:30:30.000Attention on that we need to like when when women are doing that we should just call them Amber Heard because it brings up all That emotion that people remember from the trial.
01:30:38.000Yeah. Yeah point the Amber Heard case was was great.
01:30:41.000I think it was like landmark in the realm of justice for men from from female eyes is you know, but again, so few men can mount the defense like that and and bear the financial loss of Clear their name so few men can do it.
01:30:57.000You know we've seen in Europe to soccer players getting accused I mean um Ronaldo had to deal with this shit Yeah, some chick.
01:31:03.000You know it's kind of got buried, but some chick in Vegas accused him of Graping like an o9 or o10 or some shit like that, and you know obviously didn't have any teeth But dude this has been a problem for fucking decades man women making these accusations, and I think it's an over correction to the Yeah,
01:31:33.000there's no need to get revenge on men today for what men did decades ago.
01:31:39.000Correcting the problem is one thing, but then just saying, I should be allowed to get away with whatever I want because something happened to some woman 40 years ago is just insane.
01:31:50.000Telling them that they can get away with stuff and they're entitled to do it and it's that's that's the that's the through line to all the problems we're experiencing right now.
01:31:59.000So yeah, I guess whole math just for my final question here for me.
01:32:02.000Hey guys like the video we got well over 7,000 you guys watching this thing live right now.
01:32:06.000So guys do me a favor gonna have a zoom call with whole math after this you guys gonna be able to ask him questions, etc.
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01:33:12.000You want to recognize that, you know, with what we talked about a minute ago with that 51.4% Of women, was it over 30, I think, don't have kids.
01:33:25.000There are going to be consequences for the way that they've been behaving, and that's going to have an impact, and people are going to have to deal with it.
01:33:34.000And that is going to eventually force a correction in some of this stuff that's going on.
01:33:43.000I don't know if we're going to be able to turn it around in time.
01:33:48.000Like, I don't know if you guys have been following the mathematics of population collapse, but they're saying some people are projecting that in South Korea, they might have 4% of the population they have now in a few generations, because that's just what happens when people stop having kids.
01:34:06.000Every generation gets smaller and smaller.
01:34:09.000The graph looks like this, like over the Old ones are here, and the young ones are here.
01:34:15.000The graph just goes down and down and down, because the younger generation has to, you know, support the old one of Social Security, so they can't afford to have their own kids, and they basically just disappear.
01:34:50.000Listen, man, I personally think that, like, where we're going right now, it's gonna be harder for men, from my point of view.
01:34:57.000But I do see where, like, we're getting some small wins here.
01:35:01.000But in the actual spectrum of the world itself and where we're at, I don't see us going back to traditional values like we were back in the day because they don't want to give up their power now.
01:35:11.000It's almost like we're getting too much power and we're going to hold on to it forever, as long as possible.
01:35:16.000But you're right, it's going to break at some point.
01:35:18.000Well, you know how they say there are no atheists in a foxhole, right?
01:35:44.000Actually, I would argue a lot of countries that are not as, I would say, well off as America are more like that because, again, survival isn't more important than how you feel about certain things or just maybe because I can, I will do.
01:36:00.000They don't have the luxury to say I can do what I want and I'm a 10 they just go I need a man to Play a role in my life And so I got to behave or else I won't get one and they just are the girls around us just don't have to do that right now, but They will one day.
01:36:16.000All right And then uh, so I know you've been doing videos for quite some time good stuff, bro Love the views love the content when we get a face show man face Like, I guess, reveal.
01:36:26.000When it benefits me the absolute most.
01:36:30.000I'm just going to time that and calculate it.
01:36:32.000Like, right now, it's about the content.
01:36:35.000And, uh, you know, I don't want to show my goofy old face.