Fresh & Fit - How Casper SMC Went From Drug Kingpin to Millionaire Trader

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00:07:56.000 But in the meantime, welcome to the show, Casper, the talk trader himself.

00:08:02.000 What's up, brother?

00:08:02.000 How you doing?

00:08:03.000 I appreciate you guys having me.

00:08:04.000 I appreciate it, man.

00:08:06.000 So last thing we met was that Jeremy's event.

00:08:07.000 You were teaching everybody about trading and futures.

00:08:10.000 But how'd you get into trading and start your process?

00:08:12.000 Man, so funny enough, the way that I got involved in trading was more into crypto.

00:08:16.000 So I used to be involved.

00:08:18.000 Obviously, everybody can see on the title some other type things, which we'll get to later.

00:08:21.000 But that got me introduced to crypto, right?

00:08:23.000 Because people, you know, like the Silk Road, you've heard of like Darknet, all that good stuff.

00:08:27.000 So I knew some people that were involved in all that.

00:08:29.000 So they told me about Bitcoin like way before it was even, you know, people weren't even looking at like trading.

00:08:34.000 Like, for example, when I first bought Bitcoin, I had to buy it on a local Bitcoin.

00:08:38.000 Do you guys know what that is?

00:08:39.000 What is that?

00:08:40.000 So you got to go buy Bitcoin either in person or a Western Union.

00:08:43.000 Really?

00:08:43.000 There was Mt.

00:08:45.000 Gox, which ended up being a huge scam rug pull. 0.64

00:08:48.000 But that's how I got involved in the space.

00:08:51.000 You know what I mean?

00:08:51.000 And at that time, I had been in other stuff for so long that I was looking for different ways to make money.

00:08:57.000 And one of the ways that I saw was crypto.

00:08:58.000 Because they explained it to me, oh, it's going to go up in value, all this.

00:09:02.000 And this is back when, bro, if I would have just held all the crypto I had then.

00:09:05.000 What year was that?

00:09:06.000 This is like 2016. Wow.

00:09:08.000 Yeah, bro.

00:09:09.000 You'd been swimming in money.

00:09:10.000 Yeah, early 2016. And then I got into it later.

00:09:14.000 I didn't buy it at first, like when they first told me.

00:09:16.000 But anyways, long story short, I got into it by buying a bunch of Bitcoin and ETH and XRP. Got lucky as shit, made a bunch of money.

00:09:23.000 And then I was like, okay, cool.

00:09:24.000 Like, I'm a trader now.

00:09:26.000 Like, I got it all figured out.

00:09:28.000 So then over the next couple years, slowly but surely, I ended up just chipping away everything and losing everything, right?

00:09:33.000 Because I didn't know what the fuck I was doing, right?

00:09:35.000 Like, I thought I did because, like, you get cocky.

00:09:36.000 And I was young, too.

00:09:37.000 You know what I mean?

00:09:38.000 So it's like, oh, you make all this money.

00:09:39.000 You know, I had already been involved in all the other stuff.

00:09:42.000 So I was making money there.

00:09:44.000 And I thought, oh, I've got to figure it out.

00:09:46.000 Is it common when you're making money in trading, you kind of like, say, you know what, I did this, I made a bunch of money, and you kind of just don't learn the skills properly?

00:09:54.000 And that happens to people?

00:09:55.000 I think that does happen to people a lot.

00:09:56.000 It happens at different scales, though.

00:09:57.000 So for me, I turn like 20K into 380, right?

00:10:00.000 That's like a nuclear recipe, right?

00:10:02.000 Because now you're like the shit, you're like, oh yeah, you're cocky as hell.

00:10:06.000 And most people, I think it happens in a different way.

00:10:08.000 You ever heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect?

00:10:11.000 Sounds familiar.

00:10:11.000 It's like you basically get really lucky at first, then you go through like the valley of despair is what they call it.

00:10:16.000 And then you kind of like, oh, okay, now I actually figure things out, right?

00:10:19.000 People have that beginner's luck.

00:10:20.000 It just comes on different scales.

00:10:22.000 So I think everybody has it, yes.

00:10:23.000 But to that extreme, like probably not.

00:10:26.000 Gotcha.

00:10:26.000 Yeah.

00:10:26.000 Because I've seen guys come into Miami, spend thousands of dollars on bottles in the club from obviously crypto, Bitcoin, all that stuff.

00:10:33.000 And then next year it's like, where are you?

00:10:36.000 Disappeared.

00:10:36.000 Yeah.

00:10:37.000 I think that's everything, man.

00:10:38.000 I think like a lot of times when people come into money real quick, especially when you're younger, bro, especially when you're younger, it's how you learn though.

00:10:44.000 But I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

00:10:45.000 I think you kind of got to go through that, right?

00:10:47.000 Like you got to have like, maybe it's not on as big of a scale as I, you know, because I lost everything.

00:10:52.000 But you got to go and get humbled.

00:10:53.000 You got to learn like, okay, there's more to it than just, You know, getting lucky.

00:10:58.000 And that's where you really learn.

00:10:59.000 That's where most people give up.

00:11:00.000 That's where most people are like, oh fuck this.

00:11:01.000 This is a scam.

00:11:02.000 It's, you know, this isn't for me.

00:11:04.000 All the people said it was risky.

00:11:05.000 I knew it was risky.

00:11:06.000 That's where most people quit. 0.87

00:11:07.000 That's why, you know, most people don't make it.

00:11:08.000 What's the most you've made from trading and the most you've lost?

00:11:12.000 Most I lost was $380,000, which was basically I had my peak, right?

00:11:16.000 And then I had a little bit more like profits come in and then it was just like a boom and bust.

00:11:21.000 So boom and bust trading is like you're not profitable, you're making money, but then you lose it all.

00:11:25.000 So you'll have like a good two weeks, lose it all in like a day or two days or something, right?

00:11:29.000 So that was the most I ever lost.

00:11:31.000 Now, I've made over the last four years $4 million total, like crypto, trading, everything.

00:11:36.000 But, you know, in terms of like lost in one day, I've lost like $80K in a day.

00:11:40.000 In terms of most I've ever made in a day, it was $80K. It was like $88,000 in a day.

00:11:44.000 But, you know, those are all just, you know, the thing that really comes down to whenever it comes to You know, learning from all those losses and not really looking at what's the most I ever made in a day, what's the most I ever lost in a day, you kind of try to not even think about it.

00:12:01.000 You know what I mean?

00:12:02.000 Because whenever you think about that, you start setting targets.

00:12:05.000 Now you want to have a bigger day than that.

00:12:08.000 So you're telling me if I lose 80k, don't think about it?

00:12:11.000 Myron, if you don't 80k, would you not think about it?

00:12:13.000 Well, that's why I don't trade.

00:12:14.000 It's just for that.

00:12:15.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:12:15.000 Just for that.

00:12:16.000 But it's high risk, high reward, right?

00:12:18.000 Yeah, I mean, I think to be honest, you kind of get numb to it, too.

00:12:22.000 And once you're confident that you can make it back over time, that's the thing that's hard about trading, right?

00:12:27.000 You can't really control what's going to happen.

00:12:29.000 You can only control how much do you lose in one day, or how much do you lose in one trade, how much risk is out there.

00:12:35.000 That's the only thing you can control.

00:12:36.000 No matter how good you get, you're not like a psychic.

00:12:39.000 You're not going to just be able to predict things.

00:12:40.000 So you've got to be understanding that you're going to lose that money from time to time.

00:12:44.000 But the trick is understanding probabilities and understanding like, okay, I have an edge over time, right?

00:12:49.000 And then you've got to just keep chipping away at the block and really just not getting your feelings about it.

00:12:53.000 That's another big thing I see newer traders do or even traders that are intermediate that kind of know what they're doing but they can't make money.

00:13:00.000 It's because they get so caught up in whenever they take losses or they have a losing streak.

00:13:04.000 They look at it like it's the end of the world.

00:13:05.000 When in reality, if you know what you're doing, it'll all come back together.

00:13:09.000 It all just kind of works itself out.

00:13:11.000 You just got to not blow up, not get all emotional, not quit, show up to the plate and just keep pushing.

00:13:17.000 When it comes to new traders and getting into the game itself, what do people mess up on the most you would say for trading itself?

00:13:22.000 You know, I'd say, the main thing is people think they're gonna make money fast.

00:13:28.000 Like I get asked by so many people, you know, they want to start trading, they see me on Facebook, like old people from my city, right? 1.00

00:13:36.000 They want to get involved in trading.

00:13:38.000 And every time that people ask me that, I almost tell them, like, don't even start, right?

00:13:42.000 And the reason for that is because I know their intentions is because what they think, they see my lifestyle.

00:13:47.000 They think, I'm going to learn that in three months, right?

00:13:49.000 And that's what a lot of people will sell you.

00:13:50.000 Like, that's what a lot of people will say, oh, you know, it's super easy.

00:13:53.000 You're going to learn it overnight.

00:13:55.000 You know, I had the secret.

00:13:56.000 It's really not like that.

00:13:57.000 Right?

00:13:58.000 So, the biggest mistake people make is thinking that you're gonna get into this and make money fast.

00:14:02.000 Like, you will not.

00:14:03.000 I mean, some people may, I'm sure there's some guy, there's nothing that's true as an absolute, right?

00:14:08.000 Like, there's outliers, but like, dude, you're not gonna come in this game most likely and just start making money in three months or six months, right?

00:14:14.000 You need to come into the game expecting to lose money for a long time.

00:14:18.000 And I think you kind of got to come into the game and almost, in a way, get addicted to it to even stay around long enough for it to work.

00:14:23.000 So getting into it whenever you're at, like, you know, ground zero, like, you know, rock bottom, so to speak, it can be beneficial and have its downfalls because, you know, you don't have enough money to really make money, but you get addicted to it and you don't give up.

00:14:36.000 You know what I mean?

00:14:37.000 So I'd say that's the biggest mistake is thinking you're going to make money fast.

00:14:41.000 Okay.

00:14:41.000 So you learned a mindset.

00:14:43.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:43.000 And a lot of it, too, is people that get into trading usually really don't...

00:14:47.000 They haven't seen much success in other things.

00:14:50.000 It's kind of like one of those niches.

00:14:51.000 You can start from nothing.

00:14:54.000 Most other businesses, you can't really start from actually nothing.

00:14:57.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:14:58.000 So when you can start from nothing, especially with prop firms.

00:15:00.000 You guys understand prop firms, right?

00:15:02.000 Basically, you get funding from a company.

00:15:05.000 There's no real money, though.

00:15:06.000 It's just computer numbers, right?

00:15:08.000 Yeah, it's like a casino.

00:15:09.000 Yeah.

00:15:09.000 So think of it like this.

00:15:10.000 Let's say if there's a company, right, that sells a test you can take, right?

00:15:15.000 So you can go and pay, let's say, 50 bucks, okay?

00:15:18.000 Out of those 1,000 people, let's say 1,000 people buy it.

00:15:21.000 Well, out of those 1,000 people that pay that 50 bucks, very few of them will actually make money because the rules of the prop firm are so damn hard.

00:15:27.000 Okay.

00:15:27.000 So then the people that ended up making money, they'll end up just paying those people out with the loser's money and then keeping the rest.

00:15:34.000 So there's no real money.

00:15:35.000 But I say all that to say that with prop firms, it gives even more of an opportunity to start from nothing.

00:15:40.000 I mean, you go on Apex, for example, and buy like a 50k account when they run all these sales all the time.

00:15:46.000 They're saying 80, 90% off.

00:15:47.000 They always say that.

00:15:48.000 And they're like 33 fucking, or I think actually it's like $20 when they're on sale.

00:15:51.000 $20.

00:15:51.000 Really?

00:15:52.000 Yeah, to trade $50,000.

00:15:53.000 But you're really not trading $50,000 because they give you drawdown, right?

00:15:56.000 So like you could say, oh, well you have a $50,000 account, but you can't lose more than $2,500.

00:16:01.000 So it's like, you don't got $50,000, you got $2,500.

00:16:04.000 Gotcha.

00:16:04.000 But people think of it like, oh, I got $50,000.

00:16:06.000 It's the potential for $50,000.

00:16:07.000 Exactly.

00:16:07.000 So it's a dream.

00:16:08.000 You know, it gets packaged up and people are like, oh my, I could, all I gotta do is put this little bit of money?

00:16:12.000 You're telling me all I gotta do is learn to trade enough so I could put $50 in?

00:16:16.000 I didn't know that.

00:16:16.000 Yeah, but that sounds crazy.

00:16:20.000 Man, everybody that's actually trading in the chat will tell you, it ain't that easy.

00:16:24.000 You know what I mean?

00:16:25.000 And there's really a game you got to play with it when it comes to the prop firms.

00:16:28.000 It's different than regular trading, too.

00:16:29.000 You got to learn to play the game of the system.

00:16:31.000 You know what I mean?

00:16:31.000 Because there's a lot of rules.

00:16:33.000 But I say all that to say, bringing it back to where people mess up, is they come in and think that there's this crazy opportunity that they're going to get real fast, and they're going to make a bunch of money.

00:16:43.000 So a lot of the battle is people just really developing themselves.

00:16:47.000 For example, when I work with people, one of the things that I do is I have them do track habits.

00:16:52.000 I have them really just start doing a bunch of life stuff, like get your shit together because you're not going to come into a business where most people fail.

00:16:58.000 Statistically, most people fail at trading, right?

00:17:00.000 Statistically, most people fail.

00:17:01.000 So how are you going to come in and not be at your best, not be all around trying to develop yourself and expect to succeed?

00:17:08.000 Yeah.

00:17:09.000 But a lot of people come in at a very low level because of that low barrier to entry.

00:17:12.000 Yeah.

00:17:13.000 And they think they have more than they actually do have to trade.

00:17:16.000 But that's interesting.

00:17:17.000 They give them a dream, like $2,500, but they really can spend up to $2,400.

00:17:21.000 Even though they think they got 50k in the account.

00:17:23.000 And there's even more rules, too.

00:17:24.000 It's not even just that.

00:17:25.000 There's even rules like, oh, you can't make this much in a day.

00:17:28.000 You can't make too much in a day on some of them.

00:17:30.000 And there's all different firms.

00:17:32.000 There's tons of different firms.

00:17:33.000 It's been like a crazy...

00:17:35.000 Rush of businesses starting.

00:17:36.000 But yeah, man, trading is a crazy...

00:17:39.000 It's the Wild West right now, bro.

00:17:40.000 Because we've had on QBanks, Lambo Raul, a couple of traders before.

00:17:44.000 But you trade futures, right?

00:17:45.000 Yeah, I trade futures.

00:17:46.000 I trade crypto, too.

00:17:47.000 I've trade Forex before.

00:17:48.000 I trade everything, you know, over there.

00:17:49.000 But right now, it's mainly futures when it comes to day trading.

00:17:51.000 Can you explain to the audience what futures is?

00:17:53.000 Because I don't think we've had someone on that exclusively trades futures.

00:17:56.000 Yeah, not the rapper future, but, you know, futures.

00:17:59.000 Yeah, so basically, you got the NASDAQ, right?

00:18:02.000 And you got the S&P 500. Now, there's futures on gold.

00:18:07.000 There's futures on natural gas.

00:18:10.000 There's futures on pigs, bro, like wild hogs.

00:18:12.000 I don't trade that, you know what I mean?

00:18:14.000 But I trade NASDAQ. So it's essentially a derivative of the index, right?

00:18:19.000 So basically, it's like you leverage your money instead of just trading the index.

00:18:23.000 So let's say if I buy one NASDAQ contract.

00:18:26.000 If NASDAQ moves $1, my profit or loss moves $20.

00:18:30.000 Okay.

00:18:31.000 So it's like, you see what I'm saying?

00:18:33.000 So it basically will leverage.

00:18:34.000 And NASDAQ's also super expensive.

00:18:37.000 I think right now it's around $20,000.

00:18:40.000 And if you wanted to actually go and buy that, obviously it's a lot of money, but you just have much less money that you've got to have for your maintenance margin if you're trading personal.

00:18:47.000 Now, if you're trading prop firms, they just kind of give you whatever because there's no real money.

00:18:51.000 They just tell you how much you can trade.

00:18:53.000 So is futures basically trading on leverage?

00:18:56.000 Yeah, think of it like that.

00:18:57.000 It's just a derivative.

00:18:58.000 So like in trading, pretty much any kind of trading is some form of leverage.

00:19:01.000 Okay.

00:19:01.000 Unless you're just a whale, right?

00:19:03.000 And even then, most of the time people still use leverage if you're getting in and out intraday.

00:19:07.000 But yeah, it's a form of leverage.

00:19:09.000 Okay.

00:19:10.000 Interesting.

00:19:11.000 But you're trading the NASDAQ. It's like the stock market without having to trade options.

00:19:14.000 It's like options, there's a bunch of Greeks. 1.00

00:19:15.000 You've got to understand a bunch of different moving parts.

00:19:18.000 It's a lot harder.

00:19:19.000 Futures are just like, if price moves this much, your profit moves this much, or your loss moves that much.

00:19:25.000 Gotcha.

00:19:25.000 Yeah.

00:19:27.000 Interesting.

00:19:28.000 Very interesting.

00:19:29.000 Okay.

00:19:29.000 So, is it actually like you're trading on the future, or not at all?

00:19:34.000 It's just heavily leveraged when it comes to trading futures?

00:19:38.000 It's just the name of it.

00:19:39.000 It's just the name of it, okay.

00:19:40.000 So, futures, funny enough- Because you mentioned all these different industries, hogs and all this other stuff, so I was like, wait, are we talking about trading on leverage based on what you anticipate will happen in the future, or- Right, correct.

00:19:50.000 That is, yes, yes.

00:19:51.000 That's what it is.

00:19:51.000 100%.

00:19:52.000 But what's actually interesting about futures is they're used to hedge by different industries.

00:19:57.000 So, for example, let's say if oil, like a big oil company, is expecting that oil is going to drop its price, well, that could pretty much bankrupt that business if they're in the multi-million dollar, $100 million of doing business with oil.

00:20:08.000 Imagine if oil drops $20 a barrel or $10 a barrel.

00:20:11.000 That's nuclear, right?

00:20:12.000 So what can they do?

00:20:14.000 They can go and short crude oil contracts.

00:20:16.000 That's originally what the use of them was for, like an economic standpoint.

00:20:19.000 But then you get traders come in and trade the markets.

00:20:22.000 So that's kind of like what, you know, for example, there's even like, let's say if you're a farmer and, you know, because they have futures on crops and you want to bet like you're expecting less rainfall or less precipitates whatever coming that season and you're expecting a smaller harvest where you can kind of hedge yourself.

00:20:39.000 Now, of course, like most people that are listening probably don't even know that.

00:20:41.000 I just figured that out just from, you know, curiosity.

00:20:43.000 You don't need to know any of that to trade.

00:20:44.000 That's just kind of like a little bit of a...

00:20:46.000 But it does help understanding these different industries that you're trading within.

00:20:49.000 And you said that there's futures literally for almost anything.

00:20:52.000 Yeah, yeah, there's futures.

00:20:53.000 And then there's crypto futures too, which are a little different.

00:20:55.000 They're called perpetual futures.

00:20:57.000 They're made by like all these like, you know, Binance and Bybit and all these different crypto exchanges.

00:21:01.000 So futures is kind of just a word.

00:21:02.000 You know, that's a...

00:21:04.000 So those are perpetual futures.

00:21:05.000 To not get in the crazy weeds of everything, essentially they're ways to trade with leverage.

00:21:10.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:21:10.000 Yeah.

00:21:11.000 So let's say I'm someone trying to get into trading first time, and imagine yourself with zero dollars, very low income, but you want to actually get into trading and minimize mistakes to the fullest.

00:21:24.000 How would you as someone that's like an expert in the field start trading now in the next year and get your best foot forward rather than feeling multiples?

00:21:33.000 I mean, you got to feel it eventually, but how do you minimize feeling to gain a maximum profit?

00:21:37.000 You know, I would say first things first, submit the time.

00:21:41.000 Like, go ahead and submit that it's going to take you a little while and it might take you less than it would have if you've been trying to rush.

00:21:46.000 That's first things first.

00:21:47.000 Second, play with the amount of money you really don't give a shit about.

00:21:50.000 Right.

00:21:51.000 And not only because, yeah, you got to be safe and not avoid losing money.

00:21:55.000 It's not just that.

00:21:55.000 It's that when you bite off more than you can chew, you behave like it.

00:22:00.000 It's like in any situation.

00:22:01.000 For example, let's say you're talking to a girl and you think she's out of your league, you're gonna act like a fucking whim.

00:22:06.000 If you're in a trade and you think this is a lot of money, you're gonna fuck it up.

00:22:10.000 If you're in a business decision, you don't think that, or in some business you think that you don't know what you're doing, you don't act naturally.

00:22:16.000 So that's another thing people don't talk about.

00:22:17.000 They just talk about it from saving yourself from losing money.

00:22:19.000 But it's more like enabling yourself to make money.

00:22:22.000 Because you can't go out there and not be acting natural and make money.

00:22:25.000 So I'd say those two things.

00:22:26.000 And then really, man, just...

00:22:28.000 There's so many different ways to trade.

00:22:30.000 I'm never gonna be the one person to say, my way of trading is the only way of trading, because it's just not the case.

00:22:34.000 You gotta find somebody that resonates with you.

00:22:36.000 Find something that makes sense to you, that's simple.

00:22:38.000 Don't fall for all the complicated bullshit.

00:22:41.000 There's so much stuff out there that tries to make it sound fancy to woo and awe people.

00:22:45.000 Anytime you feel like that's going on, just run from that.

00:22:48.000 Because whenever you're trading the right way, it's actually pretty simple.

00:22:50.000 Like, I could probably teach you guys on a chart a pattern that would be able to make you a ton of money.

00:22:55.000 Now, would you, you know, in like five, ten minutes, but would you be able to go out and execute that?

00:22:59.000 Probably not.

00:23:00.000 Probably takes time because there's nuance to it.

00:23:01.000 You got to go out, get your hands dirty, Realize like, okay, well there's different scenarios that can this can play out and stuff like that And I would also to add on that find somebody who actually trades live right because a lot of the people that teach how to trade They'll teach you with like a you know, a old picture of charts or whatever, right?

00:23:18.000 So if they're not trading live, you don't learn the nuance and the execution, right?

00:23:23.000 You know, it's like how many videos you watch or you've seen or books you've read that give you all the strategy and all the game of course Go do it You're gonna fall.

00:23:33.000 So there's just so many things you can't explain.

00:23:35.000 Like if you're trying to learn how to swim, and Michael Phelps had a book on swimming, tells you everything he knew to get gold medal, everything.

00:23:43.000 You're gonna read that book and go swim like him?

00:23:44.000 No.

00:23:45.000 Fuck no.

00:23:46.000 You gotta go swim.

00:23:47.000 So it's like, would you rather be coached by him?

00:23:50.000 You know what I mean?

00:23:50.000 So I'd say find somebody that actually trades live.

00:23:53.000 You know, there's tons of people that do that.

00:23:55.000 So, funny enough, we had Jeremy on a couple weeks ago with Brandon Carter.

00:24:00.000 And he talks about he's trading now and made $900K. And I was like, who taught you this, Jeremy?

00:24:05.000 Because I didn't learn this shit.

00:24:06.000 That's insane.

00:24:07.000 And it was you.

00:24:08.000 How'd you meet Jeremy?

00:24:09.000 How'd you get into training him?

00:24:10.000 Because I know having a mentor, you beat the learning curve.

00:24:13.000 Maybe like five years or so, you beat the learning curve by...

00:24:16.000 Yeah, no, 100%, bro.

00:24:18.000 Shit, I mean, it's crazy.

00:24:19.000 I wish I would have had somebody to teach me.

00:24:21.000 But Jeremy, so I used to have somebody on my team at my company that was in Jeremy's mastermind.

00:24:26.000 And he always spoke super highly of Jeremy.

00:24:28.000 I had heard of him because, you know, Jeremy's, he's a legend in the space, like the marketing genius.

00:24:32.000 Yeah, he's a genius, bro.

00:24:34.000 And so that's why I joined his mastermind.

00:24:35.000 And then I met him like that.

00:24:37.000 We hit it off.

00:24:38.000 And yeah, man, shout out Jeremy.

00:24:39.000 I'm actually gonna go see him at the penthouse tomorrow.

00:24:41.000 That'd be networking, man.

00:24:42.000 Good job.

00:24:43.000 Yeah, man.

00:24:43.000 Okay, so we can get into your story real quick.

00:24:46.000 Any chats, Bills and Moe, before we get into the story?

00:24:50.000 Cool.

00:24:50.000 We'll bring it up.

00:24:54.000 We got, uh, what's his name?

00:24:57.000 Pug H. Off topic, would you rather speak or peak in college, such as D1 Athlete, frat, etc., or peak at 35 with financial stability, own place, etc., and why?

00:25:09.000 This is, uh, what do you mean by peak?

00:25:11.000 It means, like, in life?

00:25:13.000 Yeah.

00:25:13.000 You reach your height.

00:25:15.000 Like, you know those people in high school?

00:25:17.000 I can think of multiple people I went to high school with.

00:25:18.000 They was the shit in high school, and they fell the hell off now, you know?

00:25:21.000 What would you prefer?

00:25:22.000 Man, of course, 35. 100%, bro.

00:25:26.000 Like, that's not even a question.

00:25:27.000 Come on now.

00:25:28.000 I mean, everyone, I know that was popping in school as kids are, like, got fat.

00:25:31.000 Yeah, like, and it's like, bro, I feel like you really can't even peak at that age.

00:25:36.000 Like, you can peak to other people.

00:25:37.000 Like, other people think you peaked.

00:25:39.000 You didn't fucking peak.

00:25:40.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:25:40.000 Like, you can't peak.

00:25:41.000 As a man especially, like, you gotta grow up.

00:25:43.000 You gotta go through some shit to really, like, enjoy and really have that real rational confidence in yourself.

00:25:48.000 Like, yeah, you might be good at whatever.

00:25:50.000 And not to say hating on young people or nothing like that. 0.75

00:25:53.000 But I know whenever I was younger, like, financially, I was making money.

00:25:56.000 But I was making stupid-ass decisions.

00:25:58.000 I was the cool guy.

00:25:59.000 You know what I mean?

00:26:00.000 But, like, then to now, I'm not even the same fucking person, bro.

00:26:04.000 So...

00:26:04.000 I think that, you know, I almost fucked everything up and I almost was the guy who peaked when I was younger.

00:26:09.000 So now I've actually peaked when I'm, I'm not 35, but, you know, it's not even a fucking question, bro.

00:26:15.000 Not even a question.

00:26:17.000 Okay.

00:26:19.000 I mean, peeking at in school is kind of lame because in school is like, you're impressing people at school, but in real life, real worlds, that's way better.

00:26:27.000 So let's get through your story, man, how you came up, your humble beginnings, and what you did at the very start of your journey.

00:26:34.000 So tell us, growing up with parents, school, what you did, and your crazy business you had that was a bit bad for the feds.

00:26:42.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:26:43.000 Thank God the feds didn't pick it up, but we'll get into that.

00:26:46.000 But, um, yeah, man.

00:26:48.000 So I, I was born in South Carolina.

00:26:50.000 I grew up with great parents.

00:26:51.000 Um, both of them were around.

00:26:53.000 Mom was like the sweet, she's a sweetest, still is the sweetest woman you'd ever meet.

00:26:56.000 My dad, he's more like, uh, the firm.

00:27:00.000 Like, for example, it was like, if you're not the best on the team, if you don't win a fight at school, like you better get ready for your punishment at home type shit.

00:27:00.000 You know what I mean?

00:27:07.000 And he's old school, right?

00:27:08.000 I'm from the South, like super old school.

00:27:10.000 I used to hate that shit.

00:27:11.000 Where you from?

00:27:12.000 Tennessee.

00:27:13.000 Yeah, well, born in South Carolina, but grew up in Tennessee.

00:27:13.000 Tennessee?

00:27:15.000 Okay.

00:27:16.000 Um, So, yeah, I grew up with amazing parents, right?

00:27:19.000 Like, it's kind of crazy that I got involved in all the stuff that I did because it wasn't like I had to, right?

00:27:24.000 And whenever I was born, my dad was kind of on the come-up, so he was in corporate carbide sales, which is like tools.

00:27:31.000 So basically, he was selling the bits that go into the lathes at plants that would, like, for example, Beretta was a huge customer of his, right?

00:27:38.000 Like, real industrial type stuff.

00:27:40.000 Gotcha.

00:27:41.000 Gotcha.

00:27:41.000 So he was again on the come-up.

00:27:42.000 He worked for a company called Valenite then, and then he worked for Mitsubishi.

00:27:45.000 But anyways, and that's a job that really is impacted by the economy, right?

00:27:50.000 Because you're working with a lot of factories.

00:27:51.000 So 2008 hit, right?

00:27:53.000 We had a nice house, nice cars.

00:27:55.000 All that shit was gone.

00:27:56.000 My mom didn't work at that time.

00:28:00.000 My dad, he worked his ass off.

00:28:01.000 They weren't extremely financially investing or anything like that and lost everything.

00:28:07.000 The house was gone, jobs gone, cars gone.

00:28:11.000 We ended up having to move over to the poor side of town that was a house that a family friend owned that would rent it out to them for super cheap because we just didn't have a place to go.

00:28:20.000 So to me as a kid, and I was 12 at that time, or I think I was either 11 or 12 because I can't remember the financial crisis, what part of 2008. Anyways, I was born in 96, but...

00:28:30.000 At that point, that was when I started realizing, I didn't even, like, I didn't have a care in the world up until then.

00:28:35.000 My mom took me on all sorts of vacations.

00:28:37.000 Like, all my friends that had parents that, you know, had bad situations, they all came and stayed at my house.

00:28:42.000 Because my mom was always, she ran away from home when she was a kid. 0.98

00:28:45.000 So she always had, like, a soft spot for that kind of stuff, right?

00:28:49.000 So, long story short, I had a golden childhood.

00:28:52.000 But then, when all that happened, she had to go back to work, right?

00:28:55.000 So I started, you know, I wanted to understand, like, why is this shit happening?

00:29:00.000 You know, like, how are we gonna fix this?

00:29:02.000 Like, when are we going back to our house?

00:29:04.000 You know, that kind of thing.

00:29:05.000 And I remember my dad, he would just, he would just say like, you don't understand.

00:29:07.000 It's just, it's money.

00:29:08.000 You don't understand.

00:29:09.000 Like, don't ask me another, you know, don't, because, you know, I mean, now that I'm a, like, I'm a father too, right?

00:29:14.000 Now that I'm a father, I couldn't imagine, like, having to answer that.

00:29:17.000 You know what I mean?

00:29:18.000 Two kids, yeah.

00:29:18.000 Yeah, so, you know, at that point, I just knew, like, I remember whenever they'd ask, what do you want to be when you grow up?

00:29:26.000 I would think other kids was lying.

00:29:28.000 And they'd say, like, a fucking astronaut or a doctor.

00:29:30.000 I was like, I want to be rich.

00:29:31.000 That's what I wanted to be.

00:29:33.000 Yeah.

00:29:34.000 Because I knew I was like, if I get up and I grow up and get rich, that shit's never happening to me.

00:29:38.000 You know?

00:29:39.000 And I saw it tear them apart.

00:29:40.000 They started fighting.

00:29:41.000 Divorce?

00:29:42.000 No, they didn't divorce, man.

00:29:43.000 I have so much respect.

00:29:44.000 It's kind of crazy they didn't, but they didn't.

00:29:46.000 You know, I have so much respect for that, too, because my dad held that shit down.

00:29:49.000 And, you know, he pushed through it.

00:29:52.000 He got another job at a different company making way less money.

00:29:55.000 My mom had to go back and work like a nine-to-five, bro. 1.00

00:29:58.000 Like, it was like a shitty-ass job.

00:30:00.000 Work her ass off, too. 0.56

00:30:01.000 So, at that point, I was home alone all the time, and we moved to this area.

00:30:04.000 We had a neighbor that was, like, these older kids.

00:30:06.000 Thinking back, these kids really were some motherfuckers, because they was, like, 16, but I'm, like, 12. So, like, I started going over there, like, playing basketball.

00:30:12.000 They were smoking weed and shit, so I started smoking weed with them.

00:30:15.000 Mmm.

00:30:16.000 Right?

00:30:16.000 So like at that point, I'm like, okay, this is, you know, I felt cool.

00:30:19.000 Like I felt like I was like in control of something.

00:30:21.000 I didn't even want to do it to get higher.

00:30:22.000 Were they black?

00:30:23.000 No, they're white.

00:30:24.000 Oh, shit.

00:30:25.000 Yeah, some country dudes.

00:30:26.000 Okay.

00:30:27.000 Yeah, man.

00:30:28.000 Yeah, I actually see one of them still on Facebook to this day.

00:30:31.000 This was a dude who peaked in high school.

00:30:32.000 It was one of the people who came to mind.

00:30:33.000 He was like a basketball player.

00:30:37.000 But he ain't doing shit now.

00:30:39.000 But yeah, man, so I started hanging out with them, smoking weed, and one of them sold weed, right?

00:30:45.000 So I was like, you know, kind of understanding, like, okay, this dude, he's the cool dude, right?

00:30:49.000 He's got more money than these other, you know, the girls were liking him.

00:30:51.000 He was kind of just the guy, like, he was the alpha of the group.

00:30:55.000 So me, like, I was always super like that when I was a kid.

00:30:58.000 Like, I always, in sports, I always wanted to be, like, the best on the team because my dad just fucking hammered that shit at me, dude.

00:31:03.000 Like, I remember even my coaches would be like...

00:31:07.000 This kid's dad is fucking crazy.

00:31:09.000 Because they would be like, you know, good job.

00:31:10.000 He's like, nah.

00:31:13.000 You gotta get your swing better.

00:31:15.000 And he didn't even play some of these sports.

00:31:17.000 But he was just so, you know, like that.

00:31:19.000 My kid's gonna be the best type shit.

00:31:21.000 Took a lot of pride in it.

00:31:22.000 And I'm glad he did.

00:31:23.000 When I was a kid, I fucking hated that shit.

00:31:24.000 Fucking hated his ass.

00:31:25.000 I hated his ass.

00:31:26.000 So I know exactly where you're coming from.

00:31:28.000 Yeah, man.

00:31:29.000 But now growing up, me and him had the best relationship.

00:31:32.000 So much fucking respect for him, dude.

00:31:35.000 But yeah, man, so I started realizing like, okay, selling weed's cool, right?

00:31:41.000 That's kind of the way I looked at it.

00:31:43.000 So being around that all the time, whenever I got the first opportunity, I was like, how can I do that, right?

00:31:50.000 Because they went to a different school than I did.

00:31:52.000 They went to like the city school and the kid that sold weed because he was always just over there.

00:31:56.000 And I went to a county school, right?

00:31:59.000 So fast forward, this is when I'm in like ninth grade, right?

00:32:01.000 And I started selling weed and nobody had good weed at this school.

00:32:05.000 And it was in the county.

00:32:06.000 It's called David Crockett.

00:32:07.000 And I remember this is when weed was like $30 a gram to these kids.

00:32:10.000 What?

00:32:10.000 Yeah, swear to God.

00:32:11.000 This is like what?

00:32:11.000 Yeah.

00:32:13.000 2011?

00:32:14.000 That's insane, bro.

00:32:14.000 2011?

00:32:16.000 2010, 2011?

00:32:17.000 So, you know, I became, like, I was, like, in 9th grade.

00:32:20.000 Like, the summer between 8th and 9th grade, I was selling weed to, like, seniors and shit.

00:32:24.000 So, real quick, I started, like, taking off in that.

00:32:27.000 Like, I was, I remember I got to, like, a quarter pound, which is not a bunch of weed, but for, like, a fucking 12, 13-year-old, 14-year-old, it was kind of crazy, you know?

00:32:33.000 How much would you make?

00:32:34.000 I mean, I was just smoking weed, bro.

00:32:37.000 I wasn't making no fucking money.

00:32:38.000 You were supposed to play?

00:32:39.000 Yeah, I thought I was.

00:32:39.000 I act like I was making money, you know?

00:32:41.000 I remember, dude, I was going back, because I'm making a whole documentary on my life story.

00:32:45.000 Like, crazy amount of digging through my past to find a bunch of old pictures.

00:32:50.000 I bought this Belova.

00:32:50.000 I found this one.

00:32:51.000 You know what a fucking Belova watch is? 0.81

00:32:53.000 Oh, yeah.

00:32:54.000 Like a fucking JCPenney watch, bro.

00:32:56.000 Yeah, it's like a JCPenney watch, bro.

00:32:58.000 Man, I thought I was fucking...

00:32:59.000 I have this picture, though.

00:33:00.000 I was like 12, bro.

00:33:02.000 I'm holding the bag, and I'm like this with a flatbell on.

00:33:04.000 It's like a fucking $400 watch, but that shit felt like a Rolex, bro.

00:33:07.000 Yeah, yeah, of course.

00:33:08.000 So I wasn't making much money.

00:33:10.000 I was just doing it.

00:33:11.000 Pretending?

00:33:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:13.000 Living a lifestyle?

00:33:14.000 Yeah, exactly, man.

00:33:15.000 The cool dude type thing.

00:33:17.000 But that took off, though.

00:33:20.000 And throughout high school, that accelerated pretty heavily.

00:33:22.000 So I got into other stuff.

00:33:23.000 I started taking Xanax's all the time.

00:33:25.000 I was all the way fucked up, bro.

00:33:28.000 Partying like crazy.

00:33:30.000 Everything, right?

00:33:31.000 Did your dad find out at all?

00:33:32.000 Oh, hell yeah, man.

00:33:33.000 I got kicked out of the house.

00:33:34.000 Yeah, man.

00:33:34.000 It was...

00:33:35.000 Yeah, man, we got...

00:33:36.000 I want to...

00:33:37.000 Yeah, he found out.

00:33:38.000 Yeah, like, if he and I found out, we'll just leave it like that, you know?

00:33:42.000 But, um...

00:33:42.000 F-A-F-O? Yeah, for sure, for sure.

00:33:45.000 He didn't take none of that shit, man.

00:33:46.000 You know, and my mom was like, you know, she was...

00:33:49.000 My mom's always like this. 0.99

00:33:51.000 My mom's the reason that I'm able to do anything that I'm able to do, like, in terms of having confidence and, like, thinking big.

00:33:57.000 My dad's the reason that I have enough, like, drive to go and actually do the shit.

00:34:01.000 Mm-hmm.

00:34:01.000 So at that point, my mom, she wasn't as hard on me about it.

00:34:04.000 He was like, no, not in my house.

00:34:06.000 You're going to get the fuck out of here.

00:34:07.000 Because he's old school.

00:34:08.000 How old are you at this point?

00:34:09.000 Like 16 or something?

00:34:10.000 14. Well, whenever I got into Xanax, I was like 15, 16. Okay.

00:34:13.000 Yeah, so I started taking those.

00:34:15.000 I got arrested like three times in like three weeks.

00:34:18.000 Oh, shit.

00:34:19.000 Yeah, when I was a kid.

00:34:20.000 So you're like a juvie.

00:34:20.000 But I was with older kids, too.

00:34:22.000 So they were like telling my parents, like, your kid's hanging out with the wrong kids.

00:34:25.000 You know, getting pulled over.

00:34:26.000 I had a fake ID. It was crazy.

00:34:28.000 I had a fake ID when I was 16 going to clubs.

00:34:31.000 That you weren't supposed to get in unless you were 21. Like, they didn't know fucking way.

00:34:34.000 I looked like a baby, too, bro.

00:34:35.000 Like, if you would see a picture when I was young, I didn't look old.

00:34:38.000 So I'm looking back, I'm like, man, these motherfuckers did not care, dude.

00:34:41.000 Like, letting me come in the bar, that's crazy.

00:34:42.000 But I was, like, doing that when I was, like, hella young, man.

00:34:44.000 Hanging out with older kids, going with them.

00:34:46.000 But once I started getting in trouble, my parents...

00:34:48.000 Where were you guys going to?

00:34:49.000 Because you said you were in Tennessee, right?

00:34:51.000 Yeah, I was in Tennessee.

00:34:51.000 Johnson City.

00:34:52.000 It's like a...

00:34:52.000 Dude, it's a tiny-ass town.

00:34:54.000 It's like 80,000 people.

00:34:55.000 Oh, wow.

00:34:56.000 Yeah, it's not, it's, you know, so.

00:34:58.000 What were you guys, Narcles of Tennessee? 1.00

00:34:59.000 I was the biggest drug case in Washington County, in history.

00:35:05.000 Well, you were going to get to that, right?

00:35:07.000 Sorry, go ahead.

00:35:08.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:35:09.000 But, yeah, man, so basically...

00:35:13.000 So you got kicked out at 14?

00:35:15.000 Yeah, I got kicked out, and I was in and out, too.

00:35:17.000 Like, my mom would let me still come in.

00:35:19.000 I was, like, staying with my older friends, like, sleeping on their couches, running around.

00:35:23.000 You know, I remember I would just ride around and sell weed.

00:35:25.000 weed I was just a complete degenerate right and um the the like all that yeah no I remember at that point like Xanax used to be really bad around that area I I don't know if it was just like that everywhere.

00:35:40.000 It was like even Futures rapping about it.

00:35:42.000 What does Xanax do, actually?

00:35:43.000 It's the worst thing ever, bro.

00:35:45.000 All your inhibition is gone.

00:35:47.000 It makes you not give a fuck, bro.

00:35:49.000 Not at all.

00:35:50.000 Turn you into a different human being.

00:35:53.000 Like you just, it just takes control of you, you know what I mean?

00:35:56.000 Like, but it doesn't, it's not like a, like, like opiates or fentanyl or something like where you're like all doped.

00:36:02.000 I mean, you definitely can be if you take it.

00:36:03.000 It's a prescription drug.

00:36:04.000 Yeah, it's a, it's a pill.

00:36:05.000 It's a nerve pill.

00:36:06.000 So you just don't care at all?

00:36:07.000 You don't care at all, man.

00:36:08.000 It's like alcohol, but not, I don't know how to explain it, man.

00:36:12.000 It's all your inhibitions are gone.

00:36:14.000 People take them and they just, you know, it's anxiety medicine.

00:36:18.000 So it's meant to get to people who are having panic attacks, right?

00:36:21.000 But whenever you take them and you're not having a panic, I mean, you can imagine what would happen.

00:36:24.000 It's a sedative, right?

00:36:25.000 Got it.

00:36:26.000 Yeah.

00:36:27.000 But they make you do reckless shit.

00:36:28.000 Like, for example, everybody starts, like, you know, getting in trouble, getting in fights.

00:36:32.000 That's another thing.

00:36:33.000 Fights.

00:36:33.000 Like, I used to get in so many fucking fights, bro, growing up.

00:36:35.000 So many fights at school, outside of school, all that shit.

00:36:40.000 But that's a big one.

00:36:41.000 It's like, it makes people more ready to just, you know, tension.

00:36:44.000 And people don't care.

00:36:45.000 You know, it's like...

00:36:46.000 In a regular fight or something, people are going to start talking shit.

00:36:49.000 Nah.

00:36:50.000 This shit, they're just going to start swinging on each other.

00:36:52.000 But, yeah, man.

00:36:54.000 So I remember I was super bad at those.

00:36:56.000 I was still in that lifestyle.

00:36:57.000 And by this point, I definitely leveled up in that world.

00:37:01.000 And I was making a lot of money for a kid that age.

00:37:03.000 I remember I had like $100,000 when I was like 16, 17. Really?

00:37:06.000 Damn.

00:37:07.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:37:08.000 But I was always flipping, always risking it.

00:37:10.000 You know what I mean?

00:37:11.000 So...

00:37:12.000 Where were you living at this point since your parents came through?

00:37:14.000 All over the place, man.

00:37:15.000 I remember I had a house that I rented out in somebody else's name that I would stay at sometimes.

00:37:20.000 I would stay with some of my older friends.

00:37:22.000 I was mobile, man.

00:37:23.000 I was a nomad.

00:37:24.000 You know what I mean?

00:37:25.000 I used to go to fucking raves and shit, bro.

00:37:28.000 It's so funny how different.

00:37:30.000 I can't even...

00:37:30.000 EDM type shit.

00:37:32.000 I used to go...

00:37:35.000 I'd travel and go do that.

00:37:37.000 So I was just kind of all over the place.

00:37:38.000 How old are you now?

00:37:38.000 I'm 28. Yeah, man.

00:37:41.000 Shit feels like a lifetime ago, bro.

00:37:42.000 It's crazy.

00:37:43.000 Like, I don't even...

00:37:44.000 I try to think sometimes, like, what I was thinking at that point, just genuinely curious.

00:37:48.000 I can't even almost, like, remember.

00:37:50.000 It's like my mind, like, buried that part of my...

00:37:52.000 Like, I remember it, but, like, I don't know, man.

00:37:54.000 It's like I've just shut off to it.

00:37:55.000 So you're selling weed and Xanax.

00:37:57.000 Do you get caught at some point facing jail time?

00:37:59.000 I got caught a bunch of times when I was a kid.

00:38:01.000 Yeah, but you didn't face jail time because you're...

00:38:03.000 Kid and it was never violent.

00:38:05.000 You know what I mean?

00:38:05.000 Like I was never and I was the thing was I was really good in school too funny enough I'd skip school, but I remember I would skip so much school But even like in algebra to algebra I was getting like 90 95 average like B's and A's all the teachers love me The principal you still don't lead to nah nah nah nah nah I remember the guidance counselors would be calling me to school and like saying You know like somebody had told on me some kid had said something It was a wonder I didn't get more trouble than I did But I did so good in school, I feel like that was part of it.

00:38:35.000 And, like, I had, like, the assistant principal, like, stood up for me whenever, like, I had a probation officer when I was a kid.

00:38:40.000 But I was definitely a little delinquent, man.

00:38:42.000 I got in a lot of trouble.

00:38:42.000 I had to go to, for example, I had to go to the alternative campus, the high school, where you get, like, wandered down every day.

00:38:49.000 So I had to do that, and I had to do that for like a year.

00:38:52.000 But after I graduated high school, at this point, I kind of got off of like doing Zans and all that stuff. 0.96

00:38:58.000 I was still involved in the wrong thing, but I realized I was like, dude, you're a fucking piece of shit.

00:39:02.000 You know, I was making money.

00:39:03.000 Everybody thought I was the coolest dude ever.

00:39:05.000 Like, I was the coolest guy in high school, right?

00:39:07.000 Had tons of friends, was at all the parties, threw parties.

00:39:11.000 Had a nice car.

00:39:12.000 Like, I remember my parents took the car they got for me and I went and bought one.

00:39:17.000 And I was like, everybody was just like, yo, this kid's crazy.

00:39:19.000 But I realized, this is not going anywhere.

00:39:23.000 And I had one of my good friends, he ended up, his house got broken into, somebody got shot.

00:39:29.000 I had another friend, ended up getting super, two friends, got super addicted to pain pills.

00:39:33.000 So it was like all of my friends that I had, everybody was dispersed.

00:39:36.000 And you're like what, 18, 19 at this point?

00:39:38.000 Yeah, I'm 18. So your friends around you are starting to go down?

00:39:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:39:42.000 And it had been before that, but this was all my close friends in a matter of a year.

00:39:46.000 What moment made you realize that, like, you know what?

00:39:47.000 I'm out of this.

00:39:48.000 This is over.

00:39:49.000 Like, I need to turn my life over.

00:39:51.000 That came many years after this point.

00:39:53.000 Many years after that.

00:39:54.000 But at that point...

00:39:56.000 Well, I mean, I thought...

00:39:57.000 At that point, I thought that.

00:39:59.000 But my idea was, let's go to Cali and get into the legal weed game.

00:40:02.000 So I was like, man, like, come on.

00:40:04.000 I mean, at that point...

00:40:05.000 And I think that, like...

00:40:06.000 And anybody that's been in that lifestyle can kind of resonate with this.

00:40:09.000 Probably, like, whenever you're in that, that's all you think you're good at.

00:40:13.000 Like, that's all you think you know.

00:40:15.000 You think you can't do anything else because it's just like ingrained in you, you know, because it's like the music you listen to, the life you live, the people you're around, all the shit you're doing, it all goes back to the same thing.

00:40:26.000 So it's like that's your identity.

00:40:27.000 You identify with it.

00:40:28.000 So in my head, I was like, the most I was going to do was get into the legal weed game.

00:40:32.000 So, I decided to move to California.

00:40:35.000 I had a girl with me at the time.

00:40:36.000 I just literally brought her.

00:40:37.000 I had no, like, nothing out there.

00:40:39.000 Like, no idea what the fuck I was gonna do.

00:40:41.000 So, you're like 18, 19 now at this point?

00:40:43.000 Yeah, 18. What year is it?

00:40:45.000 This is 2015. 2015. Yeah.

00:40:48.000 So, actually, I think it was early 2016, but, you know, right around the same point.

00:40:51.000 But I just packed up all my shit.

00:40:54.000 Left.

00:40:54.000 Because there was also a bunch of people getting in trouble or different things.

00:40:57.000 I just left.

00:40:58.000 I just went to California and just decided I'm going to figure some shit out.

00:41:03.000 Real quick, we got here in the chat.

00:41:05.000 Is that CIOU? How do you say that?

00:41:08.000 Oh man, that's Ethan.

00:41:09.000 Yeah, yeah, man.

00:41:11.000 This is a cool-ass dude, man.

00:41:15.000 Casper's a goat for real.

00:41:16.000 Joined his mentorship in October 2023. Changed my life.

00:41:20.000 Grew from YouTube to 20K subs within three months.

00:41:22.000 Ethan Trades created my own community.

00:41:24.000 Made over 200K this year.

00:41:26.000 Mad respect.

00:41:28.000 How do you say his name?

00:41:32.000 Ethan, that's his name on Discord, so I just call him Ethan, man.

00:41:35.000 That's not his last name either, though.

00:41:36.000 Cool.

00:41:36.000 But dude, he's a fucking legend, man.

00:41:38.000 He took a risk.

00:41:39.000 I remember whenever he signed up his dad.

00:41:41.000 His dad's a go-to.

00:41:42.000 He literally took a loan from his dad to start and get serious with trading.

00:41:46.000 And bro, fast forward a year, dude, not only has he succeeded in trading, he's built his own personal brand.

00:41:51.000 Nice.

00:41:52.000 Fucking absolute legend of a dude.

00:41:53.000 Shots you, man.

00:41:54.000 Yeah.

00:41:55.000 There you go.

00:41:55.000 Yeah, man.

00:41:56.000 Shout out to you, Ethan.

00:41:57.000 So now you're in California and you're getting into the legal weed industry.

00:42:03.000 Yeah, yeah, so...

00:42:04.000 Have you gotten arrested yet at this point?

00:42:06.000 Like, was there a big arrest yet?

00:42:07.000 No, no, no, no.

00:42:08.000 This was way before that.

00:42:10.000 So I basically went out there and I was like...

00:42:13.000 And I was always a resourceful person.

00:42:15.000 Like, I was pretty good at networking and, like, you know, meeting different...

00:42:18.000 I mean, obviously I had done pretty well in that.

00:42:20.000 I don't want to make it sound good because I don't glorify any of that shit.

00:42:24.000 Like, I ain't proud of it, just to be clear.

00:42:25.000 But I was doing well in that line of work, whatever you want to...

00:42:29.000 Not even work, whatever you want to call it.

00:42:30.000 But, um, so I went out to, to California and the idea, I was like, I'm going to go on Craigslist and I'm going to find people selling grow equipment.

00:42:38.000 Right.

00:42:39.000 And then I'll be able to figure out something from there.

00:42:41.000 Cause people sell grow equipment.

00:42:42.000 They're going to be in the weekend.

00:42:43.000 Yep.

00:42:44.000 That was, and I was also, bro, I was literally everybody.

00:42:46.000 I would be at a gas station.

00:42:48.000 What's up, man?

00:42:49.000 How you doing?

00:42:49.000 Yeah.

00:42:50.000 Start trying to talk to them and see if they were in the weed game somehow.

00:42:53.000 I was on everything I could do trying to figure something out.

00:42:57.000 I kept doing that.

00:42:59.000 I got robbed trying to do that.

00:43:01.000 There's all sorts of shit that happened.

00:43:03.000 To save a long story, eventually I found somebody.

00:43:07.000 It was this old head.

00:43:09.000 I guess he just saw in me.

00:43:10.000 I was ambitious.

00:43:11.000 I wanted to work.

00:43:13.000 I was like, look, you tell me whatever I can do to provide value to you.

00:43:15.000 I'll do it.

00:43:16.000 I just want to get my feet wet.

00:43:17.000 You don't have to pay me nothing.

00:43:18.000 I just want to learn.

00:43:19.000 He was like, okay.

00:43:21.000 He was like, how about this?

00:43:22.000 You come out.

00:43:23.000 You run this farm.

00:43:25.000 And I'll give you half because he's getting so old.

00:43:27.000 He'd been in the game for so long that he was not even going to run it that year.

00:43:30.000 That's why he was selling his stuff.

00:43:32.000 So he was like, you come out here and do everything I tell you to do.

00:43:36.000 Because he kind of just took a risk on me, to be honest.

00:43:38.000 I think he could sense that I wasn't fucking around.

00:43:40.000 Because I would tell him straight up, I'd be like, look, I don't have nothing else out here.

00:43:44.000 It's all on the table.

00:43:46.000 I gotta go.

00:43:47.000 So, he took a risk on me and ended up saying, like, I'll give you 50% of what we harvest if you come out and do everything I tell you to do.

00:43:54.000 I was like, hell yeah, man.

00:43:56.000 Grow weed?

00:43:56.000 That shit's gonna be easy.

00:43:58.000 Nah, man.

00:43:59.000 That's like crazy labor.

00:44:00.000 Crazy, crazy work.

00:44:02.000 Like, because outdoor weed, right?

00:44:03.000 There was indoor weed, too.

00:44:05.000 But I went out there the first day that we were actually...

00:44:08.000 He had taught me a bunch of stuff at this point, but I remember we were sitting outside and this dump truck pulls up.

00:44:12.000 And I'm like, what the fuck's a dump truck here?

00:44:14.000 He's like, that's the dirt.

00:44:16.000 The whole dump truck had to come back three or four times and just dump dirt in a pile that you had to put in a wheelbarrow, roll down this crazy-ass trail, one wheelbarrow at a time, because it's like a mountain trail.

00:44:27.000 Go out there, take the dirt, put it in a big canvas smart pot.

00:44:31.000 All that by myself for 400 pots.

00:44:35.000 But my fingers, I remember my fingers, like the skin, I even had gloves and the skin was just gone.

00:44:38.000 And this was like two days in.

00:44:40.000 And I'm like, man, what the fuck have I signed up for?

00:44:42.000 Damn.

00:44:43.000 You know?

00:44:44.000 So, at that point, I was still just so thankful that I had found something.

00:44:47.000 Like, I was so grateful that, you know, okay.

00:44:52.000 I got at least a lead on something.

00:44:54.000 I'm doing something right.

00:44:55.000 I'm not in the game.

00:44:56.000 I didn't even talk to people back home.

00:44:59.000 I had blocked so many people trying to...

00:45:01.000 I was trying to, in my head, trying to do better.

00:45:03.000 I mean, I was doing a lot better.

00:45:05.000 Legitimize yourself.

00:45:06.000 Right, exactly.

00:45:08.000 So, I did that for a while.

00:45:10.000 And then it came to a point, I remember, I never forget this shit, I was sitting in my living room playing Call of Duty.

00:45:16.000 And a girlfriend I had at the time, she came in and she was like, hey, we need to talk.

00:45:21.000 And I was like, man, hold on one second.

00:45:22.000 Like, I'm playing.

00:45:23.000 Like, you know, can't you see I'm playing?

00:45:24.000 And she was like, I'm pregnant.

00:45:27.000 So I was like...

00:45:29.000 Trust me, bro.

00:45:30.000 That's the worst news you could hear.

00:45:31.000 I was like, shit, man.

00:45:32.000 Like, you know, I... I didn't expect it, right?

00:45:35.000 So I was just like...

00:45:36.000 And I had been with this girl for a while at the time.

00:45:38.000 It wasn't just like some random, you know.

00:45:39.000 And we weren't trying...

00:45:40.000 Obviously, we weren't trying to have a kid.

00:45:41.000 But, you know, at that moment, I was sitting there, and I was just like, fuck, bro.

00:45:45.000 Because I'd already been thinking, like...

00:45:47.000 My mom would tell me, she's like, you're too smart for this shit.

00:45:49.000 Like, why do you keep putting yourself in a box?

00:45:52.000 Why are you just doing this, like...

00:45:54.000 Oh, it's legal weed game, but it's still like, I mean, I'm not, you know, people would make crazy money in the legal weed game, but it's a dirty ass business, man.

00:46:00.000 It really is.

00:46:01.000 It really just is.

00:46:02.000 That's the nature of it.

00:46:03.000 It is.

00:46:04.000 And I knew deep down that I wanted to do something else, right?

00:46:08.000 And I'd already been thinking of, like, am I going to do this forever?

00:46:12.000 Why am I doing this?

00:46:14.000 If I'm not going to do it forever, why am I doing it at all?

00:46:16.000 Well, what the fuck am I going to do, right?

00:46:18.000 So at that point, I remember I started thinking, like, okay, you know, I'm going to have a kid, right?

00:46:24.000 Like, I've got to really clean my shit up, right?

00:46:26.000 I'm going to actually, like, get out of this shit, go home.

00:46:29.000 This is crazy as fuck.

00:46:30.000 Like, I've got to figure something out, have a normal life, right?

00:46:34.000 So I'm going to try to go home.

00:46:36.000 I end up moving home.

00:46:38.000 But then I just kept selling shit.

00:46:39.000 I kept selling weed.

00:46:40.000 Because now I had a farm.

00:46:42.000 I won't get into crazy details, but obviously I had been connected and stuff.

00:46:46.000 So at this point, I was like, well, fuck it.

00:46:51.000 I'll kind of be half in, half out.

00:46:53.000 And let me fast forward a little bit.

00:46:56.000 This was right around the same time that whenever I figured out that she was pregnant, that was like September of 2016. And right after that...

00:47:05.000 That's whenever crypto finally started moving.

00:47:06.000 Because remember, rewind a while, I had bought a bunch of crypto.

00:47:10.000 But I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.

00:47:11.000 So I had bought all this stuff, and I started seeing it, people talking about it.

00:47:15.000 It was not the same crypto Twitter as it is now.

00:47:17.000 Was it in a cold wallet?

00:47:19.000 No, it was blockchain.

00:47:21.000 Have you heard of the app called Blockchain?

00:47:23.000 There's still a wallet.

00:47:24.000 But back then, it was one of the only ones.

00:47:27.000 I didn't even know what a cold storage was back then.

00:47:29.000 This is when Binance...

00:47:30.000 I don't know if you guys know what Binance is.

00:47:31.000 You could get Binance...

00:47:34.000 Like, you could get Binance in the U.S. You can still, it's Binance U.S., but back then it was just regular Binance.

00:47:39.000 Anyway, I use Binance the whole, what I'm saying that is I use Binance.

00:47:42.000 But yeah, around that time, crypto started moving, right, before, like, after I figured I was going to have a kid.

00:47:48.000 So it was like, oh, this is perfect.

00:47:51.000 Like, I'm gonna start, I'm gonna make money in this.

00:47:52.000 I started really researching at this point.

00:47:54.000 Like, oh, this is why they use it.

00:47:56.000 Cause I just knew they used it on the Silk Road.

00:47:57.000 I didn't even think nothing of it.

00:47:59.000 Like I thought it was just some like illegal crime money.

00:48:02.000 That's what my brain thought of Bitcoin was.

00:48:05.000 So, I ended up just realizing, like, okay, I can maybe have something else to do other than this weed stuff.

00:48:12.000 By the time my daughter had been born, the whole bull run had happened.

00:48:15.000 Because my daughter was born in May 2017, right?

00:48:18.000 So I had...

00:48:20.000 No, no, no, that's not accurate, the bull run part.

00:48:24.000 The bull run hadn't already unfolded.

00:48:25.000 The bull run was in 2018. But I had made a bunch of money from when I had bought still with Bitcoin, right?

00:48:30.000 So at this point, I was already thinking of like, how do I get out?

00:48:32.000 How do I go back home?

00:48:33.000 How do I quit all this stuff?

00:48:35.000 So I stayed out for the farm for the first year my daughter was alive.

00:48:39.000 But in that whole time, I was researching about crypto, learning about how I can make money from trading.

00:48:45.000 I hadn't really started trading yet, but I was trying to learn of all these different ways to make money online with different things other than the game, right?

00:48:53.000 So, once I actually finally hit super crazy, at that point, that's whenever I decided, I was like, I'm gonna move home, right?

00:48:59.000 Because I had a bunch of money, I'm gonna go home, I'm gonna make, I'm gonna just make this work.

00:49:03.000 You got tired of the farming?

00:49:03.000 Is that what it was?

00:49:04.000 Nah, to be honest, man, I wasn't really tired of it.

00:49:06.000 I was just tired of, like, the shit that came with it.

00:49:09.000 Because, like, people was getting robbed and killed, like, that was a huge thing out there.

00:49:13.000 So I was in Calaveras County, which is like, it's not Humboldt, but it's like the second kind, it's kind of like Humboldt, meaning it's out in the country, dude.

00:49:22.000 Like, it's not like people getting...

00:49:24.000 Oh, that's crazy.

00:49:25.000 That's crazy.

00:49:26.000 Seth, I just saw Seth in the chat.

00:49:27.000 Anyway, shout out Seth.

00:49:28.000 That's my homie.

00:49:29.000 He could tell you all this shit's 100. He was there for that.

00:49:31.000 But the...

00:49:33.000 Where was I at?

00:49:36.000 You were saying you had to leave because it started to get dangerous.

00:49:38.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:49:39.000 And you made a bunch of money on crypto.

00:49:40.000 Right, right, right.

00:49:41.000 Yes, a lot of people was getting robbed and killed.

00:49:43.000 And it was just, you know...

00:49:44.000 The farming was cool.

00:49:46.000 Like, after I got good at it, it was actually fun because it's hard.

00:49:49.000 Anything you get good at, it's hard.

00:49:51.000 You know?

00:49:51.000 Like, it's cool.

00:49:52.000 It's fulfilling, right?

00:49:53.000 You build a whole farm.

00:49:55.000 Like, I mean, it was a quarter acre of canopy, which is like a pretty big area.

00:49:59.000 I had ran all the irrigation systems.

00:50:01.000 It's not just like some, you know, Joe Smoe shit.

00:50:04.000 You got to really know what you're doing.

00:50:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:50:06.000 So it was cool.

00:50:07.000 I enjoyed it.

00:50:08.000 After I got good at it first, I hated that shit.

00:50:10.000 It was hard work.

00:50:12.000 And then everybody started getting robbed.

00:50:13.000 I remember there was a bunch of people who got killed.

00:50:15.000 They were set up by their trimmers.

00:50:16.000 It just wasn't...

00:50:18.000 It's not something you want to do when you have a kid.

00:50:20.000 And I didn't do it at my house.

00:50:21.000 I had another house that that was at.

00:50:23.000 Never brought anything back to where she was at.

00:50:26.000 But you got a baby in the house, bro.

00:50:28.000 What kind of scumbag are you to keep? 0.54

00:50:30.000 Because people always want to make it sound like...

00:50:33.000 You can play both parts, and I used to at that point.

00:50:36.000 I used to think I could play both parts, but, like, I knew deep down I had to get the fuck out of there, right?

00:50:40.000 So, eventually...

00:50:41.000 Were you still selling at this point, or no?

00:50:42.000 You were just straight farming?

00:50:43.000 Yeah, but it was, like, in Cali, it's different, bro.

00:50:45.000 Okay.

00:50:45.000 It's, like, a different, like...

00:50:47.000 People...

00:50:48.000 Everybody's selling weed out in certain cities.

00:50:50.000 Like, Calvary's County, bro, everybody's selling weed.

00:50:52.000 Like, not even, like, what you think of selling weed as here.

00:50:54.000 Like, they look at it like it's, like, fucking...

00:51:00.000 It doesn't have the same stigma.

00:51:02.000 Yeah, everybody's got like a family member that's in a farm.

00:51:04.000 Yep.

00:51:04.000 Right?

00:51:05.000 But, um, yeah, so fast forward.

00:51:09.000 Go back to Tennessee.

00:51:10.000 Yeah, well, I'd made a bunch of money just getting lucky, right?

00:51:13.000 And it was funny, the one thing I did, right, was I sold pretty damn close to the top.

00:51:18.000 Which is kind of funny, right?

00:51:19.000 Because most people, they get rich and they just hold it all the way back down.

00:51:21.000 I held it back some of the way down.

00:51:23.000 But I remember selling.

00:51:24.000 I was like, this is perfect.

00:51:25.000 And I really thought in my head, I really thought that I had it figured out.

00:51:30.000 I was like, dude, this is meant to be.

00:51:32.000 This is destiny.

00:51:34.000 I'm getting out of the game right when I figure out how to do this.

00:51:37.000 I remember I was watching Trading 212 videos, which is like the most...

00:51:41.000 It's like a trading YouTube, but it's like the...

00:51:43.000 It's the most base-level fucking...

00:51:45.000 I mean, it's cool if you know absolutely nothing, but they just basically take every single strategy that was ever talked about and make a video on it.

00:51:53.000 So you'd think they're all good, right?

00:51:55.000 So I remember I was watching all these videos, figured out, okay, cool, like, bold flags and ascending...

00:52:00.000 I remember I was just trading, like, chart patterns.

00:52:02.000 Those are basically just really basic ways.

00:52:04.000 I could teach you that in five seconds.

00:52:05.000 They don't really work that well, though, right?

00:52:07.000 But I thought, okay, cool.

00:52:09.000 I've learned the way.

00:52:10.000 I've got a bunch of money.

00:52:11.000 Cool, I'll risk like $5,000 to trade.

00:52:13.000 That's good risk management, which is like crazy.

00:52:15.000 It's not good risk management.

00:52:18.000 But, you know, I just...

00:52:21.000 I thought I had it figured out, right?

00:52:24.000 So, when I moved back, I also was still trapping and stuff.

00:52:27.000 Like, I was still doing all that.

00:52:29.000 But I was trying to be, like, half in, half out, right?

00:52:33.000 So, I was making some money trading, but I was losing it.

00:52:35.000 But I was, like, also making money from the street stuff.

00:52:38.000 So, it was kind of like you kind of drown yourself out.

00:52:41.000 So, it's like a slow burn, but you don't really realize what's happening.

00:52:43.000 Like, I thought, okay, you're just learning.

00:52:44.000 It's okay.

00:52:45.000 You're only down, like, 30 grand.

00:52:46.000 It's okay.

00:52:47.000 Right?

00:52:48.000 And I thought crypto was going to make another bull run.

00:52:51.000 So I bought back into a bunch of crypto, held it, and ended up plummeting.

00:52:55.000 Lost a bunch more money.

00:52:56.000 Then I kept trying to trade it, and it was just like a slow and sure...

00:53:00.000 Yeah, it was like one step forward, three steps back.

00:53:04.000 Yo, I'm sorry, bro.

00:53:05.000 I just can't picture you selling drugs or anything, bro.

00:53:08.000 This guy today, I'm like, bro, what the heck?

00:53:10.000 Yeah, man, I've changed a lot, man.

00:53:11.000 Like, I wouldn't like myself.

00:53:13.000 I always joke with the girl I'm with now.

00:53:15.000 She wasn't with me back then.

00:53:16.000 She had never been with me.

00:53:18.000 She's amazing.

00:53:19.000 But she's not like that.

00:53:20.000 She's cleaned up.

00:53:21.000 You know what I mean?

00:53:21.000 Like, if I... If I would have been like this, she wouldn't have even fucked me.

00:53:26.000 She would have thought I was a crazy ass.

00:53:27.000 But I always tell her, I'm like, I would have fucking hated myself.

00:53:29.000 Like, if I met myself...

00:53:31.000 Wait, this guy's a fucking douchebag.

00:53:33.000 A fucking arrogant...

00:53:34.000 You know what I mean?

00:53:34.000 I'd be like, this guy's a loser.

00:53:35.000 Right?

00:53:36.000 Because I really was.

00:53:37.000 Like, I was a rich loser.

00:53:38.000 Because you can...

00:53:38.000 You know what I mean?

00:53:39.000 Like, I thought I was the shit, but...

00:53:41.000 As they say, money doesn't unlame you.

00:53:44.000 Oh, shit.

00:53:46.000 Man, that shit's crazy.

00:53:47.000 I was like, what the fuck?

00:53:49.000 But, um...

00:53:49.000 But, nah, yeah, like, I, um...

00:53:52.000 I thought I had everything figured out, and I was cocky.

00:53:55.000 But back then I was a different dude to that point.

00:53:58.000 I don't know, did you even see the mug shot or anything?

00:54:01.000 Like the picture?

00:54:01.000 I think I sent you.

00:54:02.000 Yeah, it's on the fucking thumbnail, duh.

00:54:04.000 So, how'd you end up going to jail though?

00:54:06.000 Yeah, so, okay, it's a long story.

00:54:08.000 But from where we're at now, essentially, really what happened, the mother of my child and I ended up splitting up.

00:54:15.000 And at that point I was just like full sicko mode.

00:54:18.000 Were you married at all?

00:54:18.000 No, I wasn't married.

00:54:19.000 No, we weren't married.

00:54:21.000 But I remember whenever we split up, I was like, and it was right around the same time I'd lost everything.

00:54:27.000 So I'll save a lot of, essentially, lost a lot of money trading, doing retarded shit, okay? 1.00

00:54:32.000 Ended up losing it all.

00:54:33.000 Around that point, I was also taking a lot of losses in the game, and the mother of my child and me split up.

00:54:38.000 Devastation.

00:54:39.000 Yeah, like full devastation.

00:54:40.000 Heartbreak.

00:54:40.000 Heartbroken.

00:54:42.000 Heartbroken, bro.

00:54:43.000 You know, like, thought I was like, you're never coming back from this.

00:54:45.000 That's what I thought, you know?

00:54:46.000 But obviously, you come back.

00:54:48.000 Actually, I don't think I really...

00:54:49.000 I wanted to get down on myself, but I always knew.

00:54:52.000 But at that point, I used it as, like, almost like I felt like I was being, like, noble or something.

00:54:58.000 Like, I'm going to go hard in the game now.

00:54:59.000 Like, I'm going to fucking, you know, prove everybody wrong.

00:55:01.000 I'm going to make a bunch of money, get all this money, go back into trading, and, you know, fucking write off in my land.

00:55:07.000 That's what I thought.

00:55:08.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:55:09.000 Like, but that's when I really got, like...

00:55:12.000 Really in the game, you know?

00:55:14.000 Because I was older, I'd met a lot of people, got involved in different things.

00:55:18.000 I won't go into too much, different kinds of people, you know what I mean?

00:55:21.000 Like different levels of things, right?

00:55:23.000 And I basically took the fuck off at that point.

00:55:26.000 Like I started making a lot of money, right?

00:55:28.000 I started doing real serious shit and basically like took over the whole city.

00:55:33.000 Like everybody, like I was in the club with like, it's so fun, bro.

00:55:35.000 You're selling everything at this point.

00:55:37.000 Probably no more just weed.

00:55:38.000 You move on.

00:55:39.000 Allegedly.

00:55:40.000 Not everything.

00:55:42.000 To be clear, I've never dealt with no shit like opiates, nothing like that.

00:55:49.000 I've never been a part of that shit.

00:55:51.000 Just to be clear.

00:55:54.000 You said you were in a club with like celebrities?

00:55:56.000 No, I was just I always mob at the club like 40 people with me all diamond chains like we're pulling up like it was like crazy obvious what was going on, right?

00:56:04.000 So I was like the the dude in town running shit like for real.

00:56:08.000 It's crazy, bro.

00:56:08.000 How much were you making a month at this point?

00:56:10.000 Man multi multi six figures Multi-six.

00:56:12.000 Wow.

00:56:13.000 But I'd end up spending it all.

00:56:15.000 I'd end up spending it all.

00:56:16.000 Like, it would all get spent.

00:56:17.000 Or I'd end up losing it all.

00:56:19.000 Because that was the thing in the game, is it's on credit, right?

00:56:21.000 So, like, you're not, like, buying it, and then it, you know, for my situation, it wasn't like I was buying it, getting stuff.

00:56:28.000 You were getting it on consignment.

00:56:28.000 Exactly.

00:56:29.000 Right.

00:56:29.000 So you're, like, on this.

00:56:30.000 Keys, probably?

00:56:32.000 Allegedly.

00:56:32.000 Okay.

00:56:33.000 Allegedly.

00:56:34.000 But I got charged, so we'll get, so.

00:56:36.000 Yo, you sound black, bro.

00:56:39.000 You sound black as hell, nigga. 1.00

00:56:40.000 They, uh.

00:56:44.000 So, essentially, got involved in some crazy stuff, right?

00:56:49.000 But the thing was, I would lose so much money, too.

00:56:51.000 I would make a bunch, but then I'd lose everything.

00:56:54.000 Because I was putting it all on the line in different situations at all times.

00:56:58.000 You would get robbed, you lose some product.

00:57:01.000 Yeah.

00:57:01.000 People go to jail.

00:57:02.000 People get robbed.

00:57:02.000 I got robbed one time.

00:57:04.000 Like, I remember I got beat.

00:57:05.000 Literally, I almost died, bro.

00:57:05.000 Like, I got beat so bad, they had an AR, like, butt.

00:57:09.000 Like, hitting...

00:57:10.000 This is how you know some motherfuckers are sick. 1.00

00:57:11.000 Hitting my thigh.

00:57:12.000 Not even, like, hitting my face, too.

00:57:14.000 But, like, just breaking the inside of my knee.

00:57:15.000 Like, hitting my thigh.

00:57:16.000 Because they knew my knee.

00:57:17.000 I fucked my knee up when I was in high school.

00:57:18.000 So they was beating the fuck out of me.

00:57:19.000 Oh, that's some vindictive shit.

00:57:21.000 Yeah, it was people I knew, man.

00:57:22.000 It was people that I had put on at one point.

00:57:24.000 People that I made a lot of money in.

00:57:25.000 But that's how that lifestyle is.

00:57:27.000 Yeah, that's the game.

00:57:28.000 Um...

00:57:29.000 But yeah, so essentially that went on for a couple years.

00:57:34.000 Wow, a couple years, then never got caught, nothing?

00:57:36.000 No, I got caught.

00:57:37.000 Oh, okay.

00:57:37.000 Yeah, I got caught.

00:57:38.000 This went on for like two years.

00:57:39.000 It was like late 28, like early 2019 until I remember in July of 2020. A bunch of people started getting raided.

00:57:49.000 Like, like, sweep shit.

00:57:50.000 Like, multiple people getting raided at one time.

00:57:53.000 And then I would ask them, like, you know, what's going on?

00:57:56.000 They'd be like, oh, nothing.

00:57:56.000 They didn't say nothing about you.

00:57:58.000 And I was like, you know.

00:58:00.000 And then I remember I got wind from one person's girl.

00:58:02.000 Because she, he told her that they were asking me.

00:58:04.000 He didn't tell me.

00:58:05.000 And she ended up telling me, right?

00:58:07.000 So I'm like, okay, I know there's some shit going on, right?

00:58:11.000 Yeah.

00:58:12.000 So, um...

00:58:13.000 At that point, I was like, there's a bunch of people getting in trouble, a bunch of stuff happening, and I was like, I gotta get the fuck out of here, right?

00:58:20.000 So, I went to the only place I knew, it was Cali.

00:58:23.000 I didn't tell nobody, I didn't, I mean, some people knew, right?

00:58:26.000 But I blocked, fuck, I fucking, like, didn't...

00:58:29.000 Took off.

00:58:29.000 Yeah, took off, right?

00:58:31.000 So I went to Cali, and this is where I really was like, okay, now I gotta get the fuck out of this stuff, right?

00:58:38.000 Because I was scared at this point.

00:58:39.000 I was like, damn, this shit's for real, right?

00:58:41.000 Would you say that most people that get into the game of selling these things get caught eventually?

00:58:45.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:58:47.000 I mean, on what level, though?

00:58:50.000 It can be different.

00:58:51.000 Like, everybody's gonna get caught up in some form.

00:58:52.000 But, like, if you get to the level I was at, you will end up...

00:58:56.000 You'll either end up...

00:58:57.000 Like, it's a wonder that I'm not dead or in prison.

00:59:00.000 It's a wonder, bro.

00:59:02.000 Especially as a higher-up guy.

00:59:02.000 Like...

00:59:03.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:59:04.000 The only reason that I'm not in prison is because that shit didn't go federal.

00:59:08.000 If I went federal, I'd probably went to prison, for sure.

00:59:11.000 Because federals have such a high conviction rate.

00:59:13.000 I mean, you know.

00:59:14.000 Yeah, but...

00:59:16.000 But yeah, long story short, I went out to Cali.

00:59:18.000 At this point, I was like, okay, now I got to go all in on trading.

00:59:21.000 Because throughout this time, like when I was in that lifestyle, I was trying to learn how to trade, but you're so drowned out in everything else.

00:59:26.000 Like we was in the club every fucking night, drinking every day, partying, like going. 0.84

00:59:31.000 I'd come to Miami and stay here for three months, four months at a time, just getting Airbnbs.

00:59:38.000 Just on some crazy shit.

00:59:40.000 Getting bottles that live.

00:59:41.000 I want to go to the stupidest places too.

00:59:43.000 I remember like I wasn't from Miami.

00:59:44.000 So how are you still making money then?

00:59:46.000 Or were people working for you?

00:59:47.000 Yeah, I had everything.

00:59:48.000 I didn't really...

00:59:49.000 They were working for you back over there?

00:59:50.000 Let's put it like this.

00:59:51.000 When I did get arrested, I didn't have anything in my possession.

00:59:53.000 I never got caught with anything.

00:59:54.000 Not one time.

00:59:55.000 I'll tell you this, though.

00:59:56.000 You know Malone?

00:59:57.000 He got you beat.

00:59:58.000 Who's Malone?

01:00:00.000 He spent $300,000 at a club.

01:00:02.000 Oh, yeah, I never did that.

01:00:03.000 I spent like 60 bands one night.

01:00:05.000 I never went crazy at the amount I spent.

01:00:07.000 I mean, 60 bands is pretty stupid.

01:00:09.000 Yeah.

01:00:10.000 That's insane.

01:00:11.000 Actually, that's the guy that stole crypto from, I guess, the millionaire.

01:00:14.000 Oh, that guy.

01:00:15.000 Yeah.

01:00:15.000 You're talking about the guy?

01:00:16.000 Yeah, the Asian guy.

01:00:17.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:00:18.000 He didn't hear Miami.

01:00:19.000 Yeah, I saw it.

01:00:20.000 Insane.

01:00:21.000 They stole like, what was it?

01:00:21.000 They stole some crazy amount, though.

01:00:23.000 A lot of money.

01:00:24.000 I can't remember the exact amount, but it was a lot.

01:00:25.000 It was like tens of millions type shit.

01:00:28.000 Yeah.

01:00:28.000 Yeah, he's done.

01:00:29.000 But, um...

01:00:31.000 But yeah, so at that point, you know, I realized I gotta get the fuck out of everything.

01:00:35.000 And I had some money, right?

01:00:37.000 So I remember I was going to like Bitcoin ATMs.

01:00:39.000 They only had so much of a limit you could buy without showing your shit.

01:00:42.000 But I would literally go to like fucking 40 of these things in a day.

01:00:45.000 Like I'd wake up early, just drive all around L.A., Really?

01:00:50.000 Trying to get crypto.

01:00:51.000 Because I was like, I gotta get the fuck out of all this.

01:00:53.000 I blocked everybody.

01:00:54.000 I was like, trading has to work.

01:00:55.000 Like, this is your one shot.

01:00:56.000 So I left Tennessee, moved to LA, right?

01:00:58.000 And I was like, you gotta figure this shit out, right?

01:01:02.000 So, started pushing money into crypto.

01:01:03.000 And this is where I started actually, like...

01:01:06.000 Now I got to take trading serious because I had learned a lot of lessons.

01:01:09.000 Mind you, this is multiple years after I had came up, lost everything.

01:01:12.000 I had learned a lot of the lessons.

01:01:14.000 Funny enough, I still didn't really even have like a plan of how I was going to do it, but I was a little bit more mature at this point, realized I couldn't do that shit again.

01:01:21.000 So funny enough, I remember back in the, when the weed game was like all big on Snapchat, most people don't even know that, I guess.

01:01:27.000 I say that like people just assume people know.

01:01:29.000 There used to be hella crazy plugs on Snapchat that would just like sell weed on Snapchat to anybody. 0.98

01:01:36.000 Like they're just selling online, like straight up to anybody, right?

01:01:39.000 And they would do it, like they would have distros in Cali, where you would like, they'd have, it's like a dispensary, but for like large amounts of weed.

01:01:47.000 And they'll just have people come up, do pop-ups.

01:01:49.000 They do them in like, like it might be a barber shop in the day.

01:01:52.000 They know the owner at night, they'll do a pop-up and have like tons of people come through and they'll throw like a smoke-off or something.

01:01:57.000 Like a bunch of people smoke weed, like cookies would be there.

01:01:59.000 All these different brands, right?

01:02:00.000 A smoke-off?

01:02:02.000 Like that's what they, they just smoke weed, like smoke like huge ass raws, like the papers. 0.55

01:02:07.000 I say all this like everybody knows what the, you know what I'm talking about.

01:02:10.000 It's a weed thing.

01:02:10.000 Yeah.

01:02:10.000 Oh.

01:02:11.000 Right.

01:02:11.000 But um.

01:02:13.000 I got raw.

01:02:14.000 Yeah.

01:02:14.000 Instantly I was happy.

01:02:15.000 *laughter* No, but um...

01:02:18.000 Paws like a paw, paw, paw, paw, paw, paw, paw, paw, paw, paw, the girls.

01:02:20.000 Oh man, sorry, go ahead.

01:02:21.000 This um...

01:02:22.000 It's a wrap.

01:02:24.000 But uh, man, so, anyways, like, I remember there was this, there was this influencer, his name's the Kali Plug.

01:02:30.000 A lot of people probably know who he is.

01:02:32.000 He's pretty famous in LA. You know who he is?

01:02:35.000 Yeah, yeah, so the Cali plugin.

01:02:36.000 He's like a legitimate, you know, brand.

01:02:39.000 Like, he's out with rappers and all this stuff, and he throws these pop-ups.

01:02:42.000 But I remember he used to do promos on his story.

01:02:44.000 Like, people would pay him to do promo.

01:02:45.000 I remember, I'll never forget, I saw this promo, and I'd already been thinking about, like, oh, how am I going to learn how to trade?

01:02:51.000 I was buying all sorts of courses.

01:02:53.000 This is before I really knew what a Discord community was.

01:02:55.000 Okay, so this is 2020, right?

01:02:57.000 What I'm talking about right now is, like, September, October 2020. Crypto was starting to like heat up again.

01:03:04.000 I put a bunch of money in Bitcoin.

01:03:05.000 I was like, you know, this is gonna happen.

01:03:07.000 So I see this ad for a trading group.

01:03:09.000 And they're like, you know, streaming the screen and showing all the people in chat making money.

01:03:13.000 It's like this Discord chat.

01:03:14.000 I didn't even know what Discord was.

01:03:15.000 And I was like, shit, this is fucking perfect.

01:03:18.000 Like, this is it.

01:03:19.000 It's a sign from God.

01:03:20.000 Like, my husband really thought that I was like, this is a sign, right?

01:03:23.000 So I remember I immediately slid up, slid up on it, messaged the person.

01:03:26.000 Shout out Playboy.

01:03:27.000 This dude literally changed my life.

01:03:28.000 I don't know, he might be watching, but I remember I slid up and he had started this little group.

01:03:33.000 It was like, I think at that time it was like 125 or something per month, something cheap.

01:03:37.000 Joined it and all these people were new to trading at this point all these people had been you know in like they they came in with a COVID craze So they didn't really know how to trade.

01:03:48.000 I've been trading for years even though I wasn't that good at it at this point But I had a lot of experience so I kind of as cemented myself as like an authority figure in the chat, right?

01:03:57.000 I was like one of the first members then this group ended up blowing up I got really big bro.

01:04:01.000 Like I already had like probably two or three thousand paying members at one time Wow, right and when I joined it was like Like, a hundred, right?

01:04:09.000 So, I was also really tolerant to risk, which most people weren't.

01:04:13.000 So, like, I would, you know, start to post trades where I was, like, super risked, making a bunch of money.

01:04:17.000 People would, you know, ask me questions.

01:04:19.000 And I remember Playboy, he really knew what he was doing.

01:04:22.000 And he started to teach me how to trade.

01:04:24.000 Bro, literally, like, mentored me one-on-one.

01:04:26.000 I was planning to do, like, a hundred dollars.

01:04:27.000 Fucking crazy.

01:04:28.000 Um...

01:04:29.000 But he taught me like, okay, this is how you actually treat trading like a business.

01:04:33.000 This is how you manage risk.

01:04:34.000 All the little things that I didn't know what to do.

01:04:36.000 Like I didn't know to do these things this whole time because I had just thought about like, oh, you find a strategy, you make money, right?

01:04:43.000 But once I learned all of the nuance and the game of treating trading like a business, immediately, it was like immediately I started making money.

01:04:50.000 Because it was just like I had that missing piece.

01:04:52.000 And it also was kind of like, you know how you have that intuitive feeling when you finally, you've been working at something forever, you finally get it?

01:04:57.000 Like, I knew it.

01:04:58.000 I was like, this is it.

01:04:59.000 So I started going balls to the wall with like, I was managing my risk, but I had a lot of money to throw at stuff, right?

01:05:05.000 So I ended up doubling my account.

01:05:05.000 Right.

01:05:07.000 Like, did it all publicly.

01:05:09.000 At that point, he was like, okay, I want you to start teaching everybody else in the chat, right?

01:05:15.000 So he told me, okay, if you post your trades in a chat, I'll give it to you for free, like the membership.

01:05:21.000 I didn't even want no money, though.

01:05:21.000 It wasn't even paying me.

01:05:23.000 Because at this point, you know, I'm out here in Cali.

01:05:25.000 I've got no friends.

01:05:27.000 I've cut off everybody for my life.

01:05:29.000 I'm weighing, at any point, I'm like, I'm going down.

01:05:32.000 I didn't know if I was or not.

01:05:33.000 I deep down knew, right?

01:05:34.000 So, this to me meant everything.

01:05:37.000 Like, I latched onto this shit and it literally was my world, bro.

01:05:40.000 Like, trying to master this, you know, in this community of people, right?

01:05:43.000 It was like my brotherhood and it was crazy because it's like, you guys ever played Call of Duty when you was a kid?

01:05:47.000 Yeah, of course.

01:05:48.000 Imagine modern warfare, but you're making money.

01:05:51.000 Yeah.

01:05:51.000 That's how this shit was real, bro Like, you know, everybody would just shit in the voice chat It was a beautiful thing to be honest, you know None of us really we were all trying to you know kind of come up and a lot of people from that chat now came up crazy which is insane, but you know, I would post trades helped a lot of people like, you know teach them stuff because all these people again were new to Trading because of kovat.

01:06:11.000 Yeah, so once I started really locking in and like that's all I did, bro I literally just, I was in discord.

01:06:17.000 I was, you know, creating like educational material for the group.

01:06:21.000 I was live streaming my trades and we would just live stream.

01:06:23.000 Cause it was crypto.

01:06:24.000 We would just live stream like 10 PM midnight.

01:06:27.000 We're just hanging out chilling.

01:06:28.000 Right?

01:06:29.000 So, I started making a lot of money in there, and everybody was learning.

01:06:32.000 Everybody was making money with me.

01:06:34.000 Everybody was hyped.

01:06:34.000 Like, the energy was peak.

01:06:35.000 Like, this is the peak, peak, peak energy going into 2021, right?

01:06:39.000 Everything's changed.

01:06:40.000 Like, I've made it.

01:06:41.000 Like, I'm the happiest ever, right?

01:06:43.000 I'm, like, telling my parents, like, I figured, I actually figured it out this time, because before, you know, they thought I was there like this, motherfucking gambling addict.

01:06:50.000 You know, he ain't figured shit out, you know what I mean?

01:06:52.000 Because they didn't also, they didn't really know, like they knew why I left for Cali.

01:06:56.000 They were upset because like, you know, my dad, he held our family together when I was a kid when they went through shit.

01:07:03.000 My family fell apart.

01:07:05.000 And then not only that, not only that, then I became even more of like a degenerate.

01:07:10.000 And then moved to California and couldn't really explain why.

01:07:13.000 So it looked like I was just a piece of shit, which to be honest, I was a piece of shit at that time, to be 100. You know what I mean?

01:07:21.000 But I finally figured I was calling people, everybody like, oh, I have this figured out.

01:07:26.000 Nobody really believed it.

01:07:28.000 And not long after that, I remember I was on a live stream.

01:07:33.000 I was literally streaming on Discord, right?

01:07:35.000 All of a sudden, like...

01:07:39.000 I look over at my friend that's at the house, and I'm like, FBI, open up!

01:07:42.000 No, they didn't have a warrant.

01:07:43.000 It was just the local cops in there knocking.

01:07:44.000 They beat.

01:07:45.000 I went, wait, and I looked at them.

01:07:46.000 I was like, get out, get out.

01:07:48.000 So get on the floor. 0.96

01:07:49.000 And, because I knew immediately, I had been doing this shit for years.

01:07:51.000 I was like, they would have kicked the door if they had a warrant.

01:07:53.000 They wouldn't just knock on the fucking door.

01:07:55.000 You know what I mean?

01:07:55.000 You wouldn't even know.

01:07:56.000 It was too late.

01:07:57.000 So, they just beat on the door.

01:07:59.000 We're shining flashlights around.

01:08:01.000 And I was laying there, and I was like, fuck, this is real.

01:08:04.000 Because at this point, I did know my...

01:08:06.000 I knew things were going to catch up to me.

01:08:08.000 You know what I mean?

01:08:09.000 But I... You drown it out, man.

01:08:12.000 Like, when you're doing good something else and you're just in the flow of things and things, you're happy.

01:08:15.000 It's really...

01:08:16.000 It's good.

01:08:16.000 It's like wallpaper, man.

01:08:17.000 You don't know where the holes in the wall are until you lean into it.

01:08:21.000 Yep.

01:08:21.000 You know what I mean?

01:08:22.000 It's a very good analogy.

01:08:23.000 Yeah, you know?

01:08:24.000 So...

01:08:25.000 I was like, oh, fuck, this is real.

01:08:27.000 And I remember my friend, as soon as all this shit, like, they left, I was like, bro, you gotta get the fuck out of here.

01:08:31.000 He's like, bro, you gotta get the fuck out of here.

01:08:33.000 Like, Mexico, like, you just go to Mexico.

01:08:36.000 Because I live right near San Diego between, at this point, I live between LA and San Diego in a city called Temecula, right?

01:08:42.000 And he's like, bro, like, you gotta go.

01:08:44.000 And, you know, for a minute I thought about it.

01:08:47.000 Because I was like, I didn't know what was coming.

01:08:49.000 You know, I knew that by this point, I mean, you know, like, everybody I fucking knew basically got arrested.

01:08:55.000 Like different things, you know, people got caught with crazy stuff, right?

01:08:58.000 Did somebody snitch?

01:09:00.000 Hell yeah.

01:09:01.000 Tons of people did.

01:09:03.000 Basically everybody I grew up with, everybody that I once called a brother snitch on me, you know?

01:09:10.000 Call them gunna.

01:09:12.000 But you know, like, that shit's never, it's not even like, I wasn't even surprised, you know?

01:09:17.000 I think anybody, like, that shit's to be expected.

01:09:19.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:09:20.000 It's to be expected, man.

01:09:22.000 But, yeah, so like, at that point, he left, and I sat, and he was like, what the fuck are you gonna do?

01:09:28.000 You just gonna sit here?

01:09:29.000 I was like, that's exactly what I'm gonna do.

01:09:31.000 They're gonna come back.

01:09:33.000 Like, they're gonna come back with a warrant.

01:09:34.000 Maybe they don't.

01:09:35.000 Maybe they don't.

01:09:37.000 But I told him to leave, and I remember just the next day, I had left to do something, and when I came back, I pulled up, and I pulled in, and whenever I pulled in, I just saw this Durango, and I was like, oh yeah.

01:09:52.000 Because I lived in a nice-ass neighborhood, it was a nice-ass house, bro.

01:09:55.000 I remember the neighborhood was like, what the fuck, when I was getting ready, because it's like a gated community, you know.

01:10:01.000 But I went in the house, and not even five minutes, it was just like, poof, like, doors kicking, everything, you know, all the entrances of the house kicking.

01:10:10.000 I remember the cops in Cali are crazy.

01:10:11.000 They had Glocks with 30 clips.

01:10:13.000 I was like, these motherfuckers are playing Call of Duty with it.

01:10:15.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:10:16.000 Like, you know what I'm saying?

01:10:17.000 It was like...

01:10:18.000 But you weren't selling at this point, right?

01:10:19.000 Nah, nah, but it's conspiracy charges.

01:10:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:10:22.000 From Tennessee.

01:10:23.000 I was going to say, yeah.

01:10:24.000 Okay, so they had a warrant out for your arrest in Tennessee and came and got you.

01:10:27.000 What does that mean, conspiracy?

01:10:29.000 So, yeah.

01:10:30.000 He basically was conspiring with other individuals to sell drugs.

01:10:34.000 Even if in the past?

01:10:36.000 Oh, hell yeah.

01:10:37.000 That's the only way you can get charged with it.

01:10:40.000 He said that he never had product, which means he's a high-ranking guy.

01:10:43.000 So, yeah, they got him for conspiracy.

01:10:45.000 Because everyone else said, hey, all my people were going to...

01:10:48.000 This was the guy that ran an organization.

01:10:50.000 Yeah.

01:10:51.000 But what's crazy, because at this point, I had been at this trading shit for years, right?

01:10:57.000 I had ups, I had downs, I had finally felt like I'm actually out of the game, right?

01:11:01.000 Because I really, at that point, I was like, fuck this shit.

01:11:03.000 Yeah, you've been a few years out, right?

01:11:05.000 Not even a few years, like not even a full year, but coming up on a year, right?

01:11:10.000 Is that how you got your name, Casper?

01:11:11.000 Nah, man.

01:11:12.000 I was the only white kid in my boxing gym, so I boxed when I was growing up.

01:11:15.000 That was how I got the nickname.

01:11:17.000 The White Trapper. 0.90

01:11:18.000 Okay.

01:11:19.000 I like it.

01:11:19.000 So they come and they get you for conspiracy charges out of Tennessee.

01:11:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:11:23.000 So whenever they come through...

01:11:27.000 Was it TBI? No, it was Cali cops.

01:11:30.000 They didn't even have...

01:11:30.000 No, no, but I mean, like, someone from Tennessee had to have come.

01:11:33.000 So TBI is funny.

01:11:33.000 How did you...

01:11:34.000 I mean, you were in the...

01:11:36.000 Yeah.

01:11:36.000 Yeah, TBI, yeah.

01:11:38.000 It was TBI, but it was mainly the police station in my home city.

01:11:43.000 Yeah.

01:11:44.000 Well, they have to, because that's their jurisdiction.

01:11:45.000 But I'm saying someone from TBI had to have shown up.

01:11:48.000 In California.

01:11:49.000 Yeah.

01:11:49.000 Yeah, they weren't on the site of the raid.

01:11:52.000 Okay.

01:11:52.000 But they were, like, out in California.

01:11:54.000 Okay.

01:11:55.000 Did they arrest you that day, too, or no?

01:11:57.000 No, they arrested me in Cali for a fugitive from justice, which is basically like a placeholder.

01:12:02.000 And that's what I got booked on in Riverside County.

01:12:05.000 But then they extradited me to Tennessee.

01:12:08.000 To Tennessee.

01:12:09.000 And then you spoke with TBI agents.

01:12:10.000 Or, well, they tried to talk to you.

01:12:12.000 At the beginning, they didn't even like...

01:12:13.000 Because you're the top dude.

01:12:15.000 They didn't even really want to talk to me.

01:12:17.000 They did it eventually, of course.

01:12:19.000 But at first, they were like, we're going to get everybody to ransack you.

01:12:22.000 Then we'll come talk to you.

01:12:23.000 That makes sense.

01:12:25.000 But it was TBI that ran your case.

01:12:28.000 Yes, technically, but Johnson Police Department was the one that was...

01:12:31.000 They were the lead?

01:12:32.000 They were the most invested in it.

01:12:33.000 They had done the most work.

01:12:36.000 So, at that point...

01:12:40.000 For those that are wondering, Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, think of it as the FBI, but for the state of Tennessee.

01:12:45.000 Yeah, they don't fuck around here.

01:12:46.000 That's what TBI is.

01:12:47.000 Yeah.

01:12:47.000 Sorry.

01:12:48.000 Oh, yeah.

01:12:49.000 But, yeah, so, essentially, I got charged.

01:12:55.000 I ended up spending, like, two weeks in Cali jail.

01:12:57.000 It was, like, two and a half weeks.

01:12:59.000 And then I got extradited back over.

01:13:01.000 What's crazy, though, is since I had that fugitive from justice charge, they put me in, like, a high security, like, a gang unit.

01:13:07.000 Which was crazy as fuck, bro, because I was the only white dude in there.

01:13:10.000 And it was a bunch of Mexican dudes.

01:13:11.000 They were literally like, what the fuck are you doing here?

01:13:14.000 Like, they weren't even fucking.

01:13:15.000 It was more like laughable.

01:13:16.000 They're like, what the fuck they put this, you know what I mean?

01:13:19.000 They were super cool to me, you know, but I didn't have no problems in there.

01:13:23.000 Came back home.

01:13:24.000 You should have hired them to shovel your dirt. 0.99

01:13:27.000 What the fuck?

01:13:29.000 What?

01:13:30.000 I'm just saying, it's Cali, bro.

01:13:32.000 They need to work, too.

01:13:33.000 They got sent him back, bro.

01:13:35.000 Sent him back, he couldn't even do it.

01:13:37.000 So they actually got you back, right?

01:13:39.000 They actually got me back, and at that point, I was like, you know, because I got charged with conspiracy to traffic marijuana, 300 pounds, conspiracy to traffic cocaine, 300 grams, money laundering.

01:13:54.000 And they said a school zone because some one person was in the school zone.

01:13:57.000 Now, this is where a lot of people mix up the whole thing.

01:14:00.000 Because the whole thing of my arrest got posted online.

01:14:03.000 Some person that makes hit pieces, they had used that as a video.

01:14:07.000 They made a video on it.

01:14:09.000 And the way they painted it out was, like, I got caught with everything.

01:14:12.000 Because, like, in the conspiracy, there was people who got caught with, like, 800,000, like, 80 guns, a bunch of coke, weed.

01:14:18.000 I think there was other stuff.

01:14:19.000 I can't even remember.

01:14:20.000 But those were the main things.

01:14:21.000 But I didn't get caught with anything.

01:14:22.000 Like, I didn't have anything in my possession.

01:14:25.000 The people who did get caught with coke and guns, they did go to prison, right?

01:14:29.000 Not even for a long time ago.

01:14:30.000 It was like a year, and then one got two years.

01:14:31.000 But, um, yeah, so at that point, I was like, you know, my life's fucking over.

01:14:36.000 Because in Tennessee, and they were talking, they kept saying the feds were going to pick it up.

01:14:40.000 That was like the narrative that was at play.

01:14:42.000 And I was like, yeah, your life's over, right?

01:14:44.000 And I didn't really realize I was serious.

01:14:46.000 I mean, I knew it was serious, right?

01:14:47.000 Like, when I was in jail, I was sitting there like, dude, fuck, like...

01:14:50.000 You are almost there, bro.

01:14:53.000 I was almost there.

01:14:54.000 And I finally, finally actually got trading to work where I wasn't just some fucking gambler.

01:14:59.000 I had like a community of people.

01:15:02.000 Everything felt like it was like on point for me.

01:15:04.000 I was like, thank God.

01:15:05.000 Yeah.

01:15:06.000 It felt like the first time in my life I was doing something that actually fucking meant something for the first time in my life.

01:15:11.000 Because mind you, bro, this is 2021. This is over 10 years after I started like selling weed to smoke weed.

01:15:20.000 So that was my whole life, bro.

01:15:21.000 That was who I was in my head.

01:15:22.000 You had to change, bro.

01:15:23.000 Yeah, 100%, man.

01:15:24.000 100%.

01:15:25.000 And it's like, that's why I can't even, I don't even know.

01:15:28.000 Like, that old me is like so dead to me.

01:15:31.000 You know what I mean?

01:15:32.000 That's Casper.

01:15:32.000 You're Jesse now.

01:15:33.000 Yeah.

01:15:34.000 What's funny, it came up in the, and that's another thing too, like in Playbit, which is the name of the Discord where I learned in, everybody knew this.

01:15:40.000 But then when it got released recently, people painted it out like it was a secret.

01:15:44.000 I tried to hide it.

01:15:45.000 They also said I didn't start trading.

01:15:47.000 They painted it into some fucking narrative.

01:15:49.000 You know how that goes.

01:15:51.000 It was like a whole free Casper movement in Playbit.

01:15:54.000 Everybody knew there was a thing.

01:15:56.000 I was called Casper at that point anyways.

01:16:00.000 Whenever I went to my first court, I remember they were like, yeah, the state is seeking 15 years.

01:16:06.000 And I was like, fuck.

01:16:07.000 They said 15 years, no less.

01:16:09.000 15 to what?

01:16:10.000 30, 50?

01:16:11.000 So if you go to trial, I would have got 30 years, most likely.

01:16:14.000 15 to 30. It depends.

01:16:16.000 So the cocaine charge, they have mandatory minimums.

01:16:19.000 So if you go to trial and they charge you with the Class A felony, right?

01:16:24.000 It's 2021 now?

01:16:25.000 Huh?

01:16:26.000 This is roughly 2021?

01:16:27.000 This is 2021. I got arrested in April of 2021. So it was like the first court date was like June, I think.

01:16:32.000 May or June.

01:16:34.000 And I was like, yo, your life's over, right?

01:16:36.000 Like, you're fucked.

01:16:38.000 And at that point, you know, I had a daughter, too, man.

01:16:41.000 You know what I mean?

01:16:42.000 And my parents were, like, super fucked up.

01:16:44.000 I had to go back to my mom's house.

01:16:45.000 Like, that's how, you know, when they came to that house, they took my computer, they took everything I had, and I got arrested in Cali and came to Tennessee, so all my shit's in a house across the country, right?

01:16:56.000 And essentially, I just pretty much shut down mentally.

01:17:01.000 I was like, It's over for you.

01:17:03.000 It's over.

01:17:03.000 Right?

01:17:04.000 Like, it's just a game now of, like, let's see how much money I can make to make sure my daughter's as straight as possible, because you've done fucked up. 0.67

01:17:11.000 Right?

01:17:13.000 So, at that point, I was a complete, like, sociopath to shit.

01:17:16.000 Like, that was the only way, that was, like, my brain's way of dealing with it, was, like, it wasn't, it didn't feel real.

01:17:22.000 Like, I didn't sit around and, like, cry about it or get anxious.

01:17:24.000 I mean, I would when I think about it, but it was just, like, I'd shut it out.

01:17:26.000 That was the way I dealt with it.

01:17:28.000 So, I was trading still, and at this point, bro, I didn't even give a fuck.

01:17:32.000 And what's crazy is that- You're out on bond?

01:17:33.000 Yeah, I was out on bond.

01:17:34.000 Okay.

01:17:35.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:17:36.000 But I remember going back to Playbit, because, like, at that point, you're not getting a fucking job.

01:17:42.000 Like, there's nothing you're going to be able to do.

01:17:44.000 You know what I mean?

01:17:44.000 At that point, I didn't have- Who's going to hire you?

01:17:45.000 Yeah.

01:17:46.000 Especially my shit was all- This isn't just, like, a normal- It was all over the town.

01:17:49.000 Like, I was in a fucking newspaper.

01:17:51.000 The fucking- My teachers from high school are messaging me on Facebook saying, Oh my God, I pray for you shit.

01:17:56.000 You know, it was like that.

01:17:57.000 You ever had a real job?

01:17:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:17:59.000 I had a real job.

01:17:59.000 I worked as a server at Red Lobster, and then I worked at Five Guys, but I worked there only because I had to get a job for probation when I was a juvenile.

01:18:10.000 And I only worked there for like, it was like a couple months apiece.

01:18:13.000 Alright, this is a real, serious question, bro.

01:18:16.000 The biscuit's at Red Lobster.

01:18:18.000 Is there real cheese in there?

01:18:21.000 Nah, they're actually...

01:18:21.000 Don't lie to me, bro.

01:18:22.000 Don't lie to me.

01:18:22.000 Nah, nah.

01:18:23.000 I used to eat so many of those fucking things, bro.

01:18:25.000 Those things are so addictive.

01:18:26.000 So there's no real cheese, right?

01:18:28.000 I don't know, man.

01:18:29.000 To be honest, I was a server.

01:18:30.000 I never really thought about it.

01:18:31.000 I just ate them.

01:18:32.000 That's a mystery I'll never eat now, bro.

01:18:34.000 Nah, I'd say they're probably...

01:18:35.000 I mean, I don't know, actually, with all the food and shit.

01:18:36.000 If it's mass-produced, this shit might be just some, like...

01:18:39.000 You know what I'm saying, bro?

01:18:41.000 It's a strange question, French bro.

01:18:42.000 I know.

01:18:42.000 I just wondered all my time this time, bro.

01:18:44.000 Red lobster biscuits, man.

01:18:45.000 Oh, man.

01:18:45.000 Great.

01:18:46.000 But, yeah, man.

01:18:48.000 So, at that point, I was completely just a sociopath.

01:18:50.000 I started trading again and just I didn't care about anything, so I traded a lot better.

01:18:55.000 Mm-hmm.

01:18:55.000 And I was still live streaming in the group because I basically told them, like, what's crazy is they tracked my shit down.

01:19:01.000 Because there's, you know, it's like the internet, right?

01:19:03.000 Of course.

01:19:03.000 They tracked my shit down.

01:19:04.000 They had figured out where I was in jail.

01:19:07.000 Somebody called my mom, but none of my even real friends did that.

01:19:09.000 I didn't have any real friends at this point, but nobody did that.

01:19:12.000 Like, people from my fucking Discord chat.

01:19:14.000 Got in touch with my mom, right?

01:19:15.000 Called her and was like, everything's gonna be okay.

01:19:18.000 Put money on my books.

01:19:19.000 Wow.

01:19:20.000 Everything, bro.

01:19:20.000 These are people from a Discord community, right?

01:19:22.000 That's real low supporters, bro.

01:19:24.000 Yeah, 100%, bro.

01:19:24.000 And I never had that after everything that I had in real life.

01:19:27.000 Like, all the shit I had made for people, put people on it.

01:19:30.000 And that's just...

01:19:30.000 But, you know, I'm not saying, like, crying about it, right?

01:19:33.000 That is what the fuck it is, right?

01:19:35.000 But it was crazy to feel like that.

01:19:36.000 And that was the first time I really had, like...

01:19:39.000 That was real loyalty.

01:19:40.000 It wasn't like bot loyalty.

01:19:41.000 Or like, these people just want something from you, right?

01:19:44.000 So, whenever I got out, I started, you know, going full back into Playbit.

01:19:49.000 I was just streaming, like, teaching classes.

01:19:51.000 They started to pay me at this point.

01:19:52.000 He's like, bro, I'll give you, you know, I'll pay, you know, start to hire you, right?

01:19:56.000 And I started, I kept doing well in trading, because at this point, bro, like, trading's a big mental game.

01:20:01.000 So whenever you're trying to trade...

01:20:04.000 I always tell people like this when I'm trying to teach people, not even how to trade, but the way you have to think to be good at trading, really at anything, you can't place so much importance on shit.

01:20:14.000 Because when you place importance on something, you don't act naturally.

01:20:18.000 If you look at trading and put it on a pedestal, if you look at like, oh, I gotta pass this fund an account, I gotta make this money, I gotta make this work in the next six months, you probably won't act natural enough and get into a flow state and actually do it.

01:20:30.000 So at this point, I didn't give a shit about anything.

01:20:33.000 So I was dangerous, right?

01:20:35.000 Like, I wasn't, like, reckless not giving a shit about anything.

01:20:37.000 But, like, if I lost money, I'm like, oh.

01:20:40.000 Doesn't matter anyways.

01:20:42.000 Right?

01:20:43.000 So, at that point...

01:20:45.000 Um, you know, I was just a complete rock bottom mentally and Kept doing that for a little while.

01:20:50.000 I wasn't I still wasn't talking anybody in my hometown I literally just like sat in my mom's house Just traded like figure out what the fuck am I gonna do now, right?

01:20:58.000 When did it go up for you?

01:20:59.000 What do you mean when did things like start getting better?

01:21:01.000 I guess oh like went for to now like to now so like 2022 it's like a year later right and the only reason any of that happened is And I'll get to that.

01:21:10.000 Is the case still pending?

01:21:11.000 No, no, no.

01:21:12.000 It's done?

01:21:12.000 No, it's done.

01:21:13.000 Yeah, it's done.

01:21:14.000 I got six years probation.

01:21:15.000 Oh, shit.

01:21:16.000 Yeah, bro.

01:21:17.000 And it's like a miracle the way it happened, too.

01:21:19.000 I went through, I had to fire one lawyer, get a team of six lawyers.

01:21:23.000 Oh, because you're getting money now at this point, so you're able to get a good legal team.

01:21:26.000 Exactly.

01:21:27.000 And me doing well in business played a big part in it, too.

01:21:31.000 That was a part of a thing, like, look, this guy's, like, actually turned his fucking life around, right?

01:21:35.000 Like, you know, and at this point, because it was pending until this, like, early this year, right?

01:21:42.000 Which I knew it was going to be over late last year, like, but technically it was pending until this year.

01:21:46.000 Gotcha.

01:21:49.000 But at this point, I was just completely down in the dumps.

01:21:51.000 I met the girl that I'm with today.

01:21:54.000 I met her.

01:21:54.000 She didn't really know.

01:21:55.000 I mean, she knew because it was on the fucking news and we knew everybody, but she didn't really know.

01:22:00.000 She's from Tennessee, too, then?

01:22:01.000 Yeah, from Tennessee, yeah.

01:22:01.000 She's across the street at our hotel right now.

01:22:04.000 Was she the only 10 that you saw in Tennessee?

01:22:06.000 Hell yeah, man.

01:22:08.000 I knew it!

01:22:09.000 Yeah, yeah, you knew it guys!

01:22:11.000 Discord gang!

01:22:12.000 Support me as well if I go to jail, bro.

01:22:14.000 Just saying.

01:22:14.000 Man, that's crazy.

01:22:16.000 Somebody said, do you have Cedar?

01:22:17.000 That's wild.

01:22:18.000 That's like crazy throwback shit from Playbit.

01:22:21.000 No, I don't have Cedar as a traitor.

01:22:22.000 That's like insane.

01:22:23.000 That's like crazy, bro.

01:22:25.000 That's like throwback shit.

01:22:26.000 Anyways, anyways.

01:22:29.000 Where was I? So you met your current girlfriend?

01:22:31.000 Oh yeah, I met her. 0.97

01:22:32.000 And at that point, I was like completely rock bottom.

01:22:36.000 She didn't really know the level of rock bottom.

01:22:38.000 It was like, this dude just got, you know, charged.

01:22:40.000 And she's like the most traditional, no tattoos, very wholesome, you know what I'm saying?

01:22:47.000 The complete opposite of anything I had ever had before, right?

01:22:50.000 Because I was like into, you know, that whole lifestyle.

01:22:53.000 You can only imagine.

01:22:55.000 And I remember I met her, and we started chilling a bunch, and I was just like, this is the kind of girl I actually want to be with, right?

01:23:03.000 I wasn't running around anymore.

01:23:06.000 I wasn't hanging out with any of my homies.

01:23:08.000 I didn't have no homies. 0.99

01:23:09.000 All my homies were gone, right?

01:23:11.000 Jail, snitched on me, or worse, right?

01:23:14.000 So I remember I talked to her.

01:23:16.000 She had a good job.

01:23:17.000 She went to college, had a degree, had this job she was going to move for, right?

01:23:21.000 And I was like, no, no, don't move.

01:23:23.000 Listen, I'm going to figure some shit out.

01:23:26.000 I want you to trust me.

01:23:27.000 Fuck that job.

01:23:28.000 You're going to fucking hate your life.

01:23:29.000 Fuck Atlanta.

01:23:30.000 Don't move to Atlanta.

01:23:31.000 No, Atlanta.

01:23:32.000 Yeah, that was like what she was going to.

01:23:33.000 I was like, if you're going to fucking hate it there.

01:23:34.000 Was she white or black? 0.76

01:23:35.000 She was white.

01:23:36.000 Yeah, she was fucked there. 1.00

01:23:38.000 Yeah.

01:23:41.000 I was like, you know, you're gonna hate that shit.

01:23:43.000 And she was like, this guy's fucking crazy.

01:23:45.000 Like, you know, this guy's fucking crazy.

01:23:47.000 But I talked her into it.

01:23:49.000 Yeah.

01:23:49.000 So I was like, we got to get the fuck out of here.

01:23:50.000 I don't want to live here.

01:23:51.000 So we moved to North Carolina.

01:23:53.000 And right around this time, I remember I'd been making money trading, but I'm like, it was like you're in a haze, bro, because it's kind of like you got a doctor telling you, like, you've got two years to live or something.

01:24:04.000 Yeah.

01:24:05.000 So it wasn't like I was just sitting there crying all day or something.

01:24:07.000 You know what I mean?

01:24:08.000 But she didn't know how your case was going to go either.

01:24:10.000 You got this hanging over your head.

01:24:11.000 Yeah.

01:24:11.000 And she told me straight up, like, whatever happens, you know, I'm here for it.

01:24:15.000 Like, I understand.

01:24:16.000 Because I'd tell her, I was like, you know, I actually, she's like, nothing's going to happen, right?

01:24:19.000 And I was like, yeah, it probably is going to happen.

01:24:21.000 Like, unless a miracle happens, I'm probably going to have to do some time.

01:24:25.000 Just to be honored with you.

01:24:26.000 And she was like...

01:24:26.000 And she stayed.

01:24:27.000 Yeah, she stayed. 0.77

01:24:27.000 Yeah, and I was broke, bro. 0.77

01:24:29.000 I was broke.

01:24:29.000 Like, I mean, not like dead broke, but broke to what I would consider now.

01:24:33.000 That's a real one.

01:24:34.000 Like, we lived in a one-bedroom apartment, right?

01:24:36.000 And she split the rent with me, bro.

01:24:38.000 That's how low down I was.

01:24:40.000 Whoa.

01:24:40.000 Yeah, bro.

01:24:41.000 That's how low down I was at that point.

01:24:42.000 50-50.

01:24:43.000 Yeah, man.

01:24:44.000 And she, like, she... 1.00

01:24:45.000 I remember she still cooked for me, still did everything like that.

01:24:48.000 But I think it was just she saw...

01:24:49.000 She saw...

01:24:50.000 The ambition in you?

01:24:51.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:24:52.000 And she trusted in it, because that's one thing, man.

01:24:56.000 Like, I've been through a lot of shit.

01:24:57.000 I've made a lot of mistakes.

01:24:59.000 That's very difficult to find in today's day and age.

01:25:01.000 Yeah, dude.

01:25:01.000 100%, bro.

01:25:02.000 100%.

01:25:03.000 And, you know, she saw that and was like, you know...

01:25:07.000 Because on the other end, I feel like, too, in that area, and in general, too, like, a lot of younger dudes, it's hard to find, like, a dude who's actually on his shit, too.

01:25:13.000 Of course, of course.

01:25:14.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:25:15.000 So I think she realized that, and she believed it even more than I did.

01:25:20.000 I remember she straight up told me, like...

01:25:21.000 You're gonna figure something out like you're so smart with all this stuff like you know cuz I'm talking crypto Obviously have been successful in that so she's like you'll figure something out like that You're not just an average person like you just gotta don't get depressed Like she got me like I was I got fat as fuck She's like you got to start working out you guys are taking care of yourself and I was like, you know This is like this real shit.

01:25:41.000 That's a blessing.

01:25:41.000 Yeah, a hundred percent So around that point we moved I'm her the judge was like, okay Well, you got to get a job Or your bond's gonna get revoked, right?

01:25:50.000 Because they were thinking about revoking bond because, I mean, I think there was multiple reasons why they wanted to do that.

01:25:55.000 But long story short, they told me I had to get a job.

01:25:58.000 And I was like, fuck, I can't get a fucking job.

01:26:02.000 I can't trade if I get a job.

01:26:03.000 I can't make any money to put aside for my daughter.

01:26:06.000 What a fucking job am I gonna get?

01:26:08.000 I'm gonna go fucking cut grass?

01:26:10.000 I'm not gonna make any money.

01:26:11.000 You're no Mexican. 1.00

01:26:14.000 But I'm gonna...

01:26:15.000 I couldn't do that.

01:26:16.000 So I remember I told my lawyer, I was like, that's not an option.

01:26:19.000 Like, we need to figure something out.

01:26:20.000 And this lawyer, too, man, like, fuck this guy.

01:26:23.000 Like, I paid this dude so much money, and he just would lead me on, like...

01:26:26.000 To this day, I almost feel like it was intentional.

01:26:28.000 You know what I mean?

01:26:29.000 But he would just not want to...

01:26:30.000 It was like he was against me.

01:26:31.000 It was like I had a lawyer that was literally against me.

01:26:34.000 He's like, no, you need to get a job.

01:26:35.000 And I was like, we can't, like, negotiate anything, like, show that I'm trading.

01:26:39.000 And, of course, the judge is like...

01:26:41.000 But listen, I trade crypto.

01:26:43.000 You know, they're going to be like, what the fuck are you talking about?

01:26:44.000 Yeah, I don't think that's real.

01:26:45.000 Yeah, you know, so...

01:26:46.000 What if you work for yourself?

01:26:48.000 Exactly.

01:26:48.000 So he said, well, you could start a business.

01:26:51.000 And I was like, hmm.

01:26:53.000 There we go.

01:26:54.000 LLC started.

01:26:54.000 Right, so immediately I was like...

01:26:57.000 You know, but he told me straight up, it has to really, like you can't just say you have a business, like they're gonna wanna, you know, if you go that route, because it was like a super fucking high profile case, you know what I mean, in this area.

01:27:07.000 So I remember I started calling everybody I knew that had a business.

01:27:10.000 So I called my one friend, his name is Fahad, shout out Fahad, he's my brother to this day.

01:27:15.000 Is he Indian?

01:27:17.000 No, no, no, he's like Pakistani and white. 0.99

01:27:20.000 I missed the Indian.

01:27:21.000 I called him and I was like, yo man.

01:27:26.000 How do I get a business started?

01:27:28.000 Right.

01:27:28.000 Well, I was like, I know that he had a business that had dump trucks.

01:27:33.000 Okay.

01:27:34.000 So he was in the legal business and I was like, hmm, this is one of my good friends I know.

01:27:38.000 At this point, we weren't as close friends as we are now.

01:27:40.000 But I was like, yeah, I need to figure out a business to start.

01:27:43.000 What do I do?

01:27:44.000 And he's like, why don't you buy a truck?

01:27:46.000 And I was like, well, I don't have the money for a truck right now.

01:27:48.000 Because like I said, I didn't have much money at this point, right?

01:27:50.000 Everything went to shit.

01:27:52.000 And it's actually crazy how terribly I used to manage money.

01:27:57.000 Like how much money has went in and out of my hands is just like in oblivion.

01:28:00.000 Anyways, it's neither here nor there.

01:28:01.000 But he was like, you should buy a truck.

01:28:04.000 I was like, I don't have fucking money to buy a truck.

01:28:05.000 I don't have credit.

01:28:07.000 He's like, we could finance.

01:28:08.000 I'm like...

01:28:09.000 I'm going to be like, oh, money laundering?

01:28:10.000 Like, you're not fucking getting financing, you know?

01:28:13.000 So I remember thinking, I was like, fuck.

01:28:15.000 I knew something, though.

01:28:16.000 Like, intuitively, I was like, this is going to be it.

01:28:19.000 And I thought, I was like, hmm, Playboy and all the people from Playbit, these guys, I knew they invested in businesses, right?

01:28:26.000 So I started getting the idea.

01:28:27.000 I was like, well, how much would a truck cost me if I did buy?

01:28:30.000 And he told me.

01:28:31.000 He's like, well, how much money does it make?

01:28:32.000 And he told me.

01:28:33.000 And I was like, why don't we just get investors to buy trucks And then we run the trucks for the investors and take a cut, like a revenue share.

01:28:43.000 He's like, shit, I never thought about that.

01:28:44.000 I was like, yeah, man, like, are these numbers legit?

01:28:47.000 Is this how it really works?

01:28:49.000 You know, cause I'm really gonna trust you wanna put my name on this shit.

01:28:51.000 And he's like, yeah, it's, I mean, he's like, I haven't really done it at a big scale like that.

01:28:56.000 Like he's ran his, but he's like, but we can, you know, we can start.

01:28:59.000 So I remember I'd go and pitch it to the guys at Playbit, and they were like, shit, why not?

01:29:04.000 Right?

01:29:05.000 So they invested in the trucks.

01:29:06.000 We did everything, bro.

01:29:06.000 We literally went out, flew out and looked at the trucks, bought them, drove them back, worked on them, got them ready for the road, dispatched them, found the freight.

01:29:16.000 I mean, everything.

01:29:18.000 And he had taught me the business.

01:29:21.000 So I learned...

01:29:21.000 Because trucking business is really not that complicated.

01:29:24.000 I mean, there's a lot of moving parts in it, but it's less complicated than you think.

01:29:27.000 Like most businesses, right?

01:29:28.000 Everybody thinks everything's way harder than it is.

01:29:30.000 You just got to do it.

01:29:31.000 So I got into this, and for like six months, it started going amazing.

01:29:36.000 I was like, damn, I finally had something to...

01:29:39.000 To live for, right?

01:29:41.000 Because at this point, I was making money from trading.

01:29:43.000 I was still doing the live streams.

01:29:44.000 I remember I'd show up to those live streams.

01:29:45.000 I felt like a zombie.

01:29:46.000 I was like, what's up, guys?

01:29:47.000 You know, everybody's like, hype because they're making money.

01:29:49.000 I didn't even have that much money.

01:29:51.000 I was like trading, calling out trades, not making much money.

01:29:53.000 Everybody else is making money.

01:29:54.000 I'm like, yeah, hell yeah, guys.

01:29:56.000 This is awesome, right?

01:29:58.000 But I finally felt like I had something to live for, like some other thing to do other than just sulk and trade.

01:30:05.000 And I drank a lot at home at this point.

01:30:06.000 I was just sipping Hennessy at the house, smoking fucking vapes.

01:30:08.000 I remember you smoked the tobacco vapes like crazy, bro.

01:30:10.000 Those shits are disgusting. 1.00

01:30:12.000 But anyways, we started seeing success.

01:30:15.000 And then I'll never forget this shit.

01:30:17.000 Shit started to kind of like...

01:30:19.000 Essentially like some of the investors were late on paying us a little bit, which was like, okay We can you know kind of weather that storm but our margins were so thin because we started that business To like we wanted to make everybody else happy.

01:30:31.000 We wanted to have a successful business You know that's so many businesses.

01:30:33.000 They really aren't good businesses like they have a lot of revenue But they're really not even making that much money like they're on like a fucking hamster wheel and as soon as that something clogs up they're fucking done, right?

01:30:44.000 And that's where I learned so much about business was from this business because that's essentially what happened.

01:30:48.000 Like we had that happen.

01:30:49.000 Then we had a factoring company.

01:30:51.000 So in trucking, you basically, everything's net 30, meaning that you don't get paid for a job.

01:30:56.000 Unless you sell it to a factoring company for a 5% fee.

01:31:00.000 So you have your factoring company, but like your factoring company is like your Stripe.

01:31:04.000 Essentially, they can cut your fucking water off, right?

01:31:06.000 Because you send all the invoice.

01:31:08.000 The way you do it is you set up all of your payments.

01:31:11.000 When you go to do a load for a shipper, you sell them, okay, the payee is the factoring company.

01:31:16.000 So they don't even owe you that money, technically.

01:31:19.000 But if the factoring company decides to turn your water off for whatever reason, like, oh, we need this documentation from you, or, oh, there's somebody disputing this.

01:31:27.000 Same thing as parent processors.

01:31:29.000 You're fucked if you don't have at least some cash reserve, which we would have, but we are owed money.

01:31:35.000 Because we would fix up the trucks first.

01:31:36.000 We just got the money from the wire to buy the trucks.

01:31:38.000 We're like, hey, these need this much repairs and stuff.

01:31:44.000 A bunch of buying seats.

01:31:46.000 Just a bunch of dumb shit that adds up when you do it and then do the labor.

01:31:49.000 So they didn't send the money and they kept delaying shit.

01:31:51.000 And we're like, fuck, we're already paying insurance on these trucks.

01:31:54.000 We've got to get on the road.

01:31:54.000 So we went out of pocket and paid for it and put us in a hole.

01:31:58.000 Then, the factoring company starts to, you know, fuck with us, right?

01:32:02.000 And I remember our insurance, we had an insurance payment, the way that they billed you is like everything at once, for like six or ten months, depending on the...

01:32:09.000 Damn!

01:32:10.000 Up front?

01:32:10.000 Yeah, yeah, everything at once.

01:32:11.000 And it's like a fucking, at this point it was like a $43,000 bill.

01:32:15.000 Which isn't a lot of money, really.

01:32:16.000 Now, looking back, it's so funny.

01:32:18.000 Back then, I was like...

01:32:18.000 Here, bro.

01:32:20.000 Let me show you this picture.

01:32:21.000 This bank account went negative $42,000.

01:32:24.000 Do you even know you could do that?

01:32:25.000 Holy shit.

01:32:25.000 I didn't know you could go down that low before they fucking take your shit.

01:32:30.000 They do the next day.

01:32:32.000 Oh, okay.

01:32:32.000 But essentially, it's...

01:32:35.000 Let me find this.

01:32:38.000 I believe it, man.

01:32:39.000 But that's crazy, though.

01:32:40.000 That must have all been charged like one day.

01:32:42.000 Wow.

01:32:43.000 Yeah, it was all at once.

01:32:43.000 It was all at once.

01:32:44.000 Wow.

01:32:47.000 Damn, leave it to Wells Fargo.

01:32:48.000 Yeah, but essentially, we were fucked at that point, right?

01:32:54.000 But somehow it's crazy, we pulled out of that, and we made like no money, and we were just like paying, because we still pay the profit share.

01:32:59.000 Your business is paying to operate.

01:33:01.000 Exactly, and paying out investors.

01:33:02.000 We weren't even making money because we wanted people to make money, right?

01:33:05.000 Yeah.

01:33:06.000 And then we we can't we somehow came out of that because the thing was to There's there's more context that we did have more money coming in It's not like we were just completely broke, right?

01:33:14.000 It was just like a bad window of time.

01:33:16.000 Yeah, you know to be clear We weren't completely fucking stupid.

01:33:19.000 I mean we definitely made a lot of mistakes But we had other money coming.

01:33:22.000 It was just delayed We ended up getting all the money from our factoring company and we kept running, right?

01:33:26.000 So we kept running for a while.

01:33:27.000 We had all sorts of crazy shit happen trucking business You guys ever...

01:33:31.000 You probably don't...

01:33:32.000 No, we're familiar with it.

01:33:33.000 We had a guy come in and talk about it.

01:33:35.000 It's a terrible, terrible fucking industry.

01:33:38.000 It's tough.

01:33:39.000 Cutthroat as fuck.

01:33:40.000 Truck car rentals.

01:33:41.000 Yeah, it's probably similar, bro.

01:33:43.000 But, you know, we had a truck driver lock himself in the truck, had to remove him from the truck after a 48-hour standoff.

01:33:53.000 We had, um, there was all sorts of crazy shit, bro.

01:33:56.000 Like, uh, one, uh, this was one of our trucks, but a guy stole it.

01:34:01.000 Like, the truck driver stole it because we fired him.

01:34:04.000 And then the shop that it was at, he walked in and acted like he was picking it up.

01:34:07.000 Bro, like on some crazy snake shit.

01:34:09.000 I remember we, like, literally flew out a new driver to go start driving this truck.

01:34:12.000 And he got there.

01:34:13.000 He's like, the truck isn't here.

01:34:14.000 And we're like, what do you mean?

01:34:16.000 Like a week after it was gone, we called the shopper, like, where the fuck's the truck?

01:34:18.000 He was like, oh, I gave it to Damien.

01:34:20.000 We're like, oh, man.

01:34:21.000 He's fired, bro.

01:34:22.000 And then I'm like, oh, no.

01:34:23.000 I remember I had to hunt this dude down.

01:34:25.000 Like, private investigator shit.

01:34:26.000 Hunting his ass down all the way to Ufala, Alabama.

01:34:29.000 And ended up getting on, like, a tow company that was down there.

01:34:32.000 And getting on the phone with them was like, yo, I got, like, a job for you guys.

01:34:34.000 Like, we gotta go, like, recover this shit.

01:34:36.000 Had to show them, like, we own the truck.

01:34:38.000 Like, the, um, because, like, it happened in Mississippi.

01:34:40.000 It was in Jackson, Mississippi, which is, like, fucking hood as fuck, bro. 0.92

01:34:43.000 The cops, they don't give up.

01:34:44.000 Like straight up, they were like, oh yeah, sounds like something you might want to take up in civil court.

01:34:50.000 Motherfucker stole a truck, bro.

01:34:53.000 We weren't even going to call the cops, but the reason we had to is because they wanted a police to prove that it's a stolen truck.

01:34:59.000 But then we finally talked to him and were like, look, bro, why would I want you to do this if it's not really mine?

01:35:04.000 We'll show you it's on paperwork.

01:35:05.000 But anyways, they went out and had to recover the truck from the dude.

01:35:08.000 Crazy ass stories, but a truck caught on fire.

01:35:13.000 Electrical started fucking up in a truck, it caught on fire.

01:35:15.000 But essentially, long series of unfortunate events later, The Ukraine war hit.

01:35:22.000 So oil is like catastrophic through the roof, right?

01:35:26.000 Yeah.

01:35:26.000 So that was like the final blow.

01:35:29.000 I remember I told Fahad, I was like, bro, like this shit's...

01:35:30.000 We had fucking...

01:35:31.000 But we were like going down Whitewater Rapids in a raft that had a fucking hole in it.

01:35:36.000 Somehow we're still floating for like months, right?

01:35:40.000 And I was like, bro, we got to just...

01:35:43.000 It's done.

01:35:43.000 Like you got to accept it.

01:35:45.000 He was like, fuck.

01:35:46.000 I was like, it's over, bro.

01:35:47.000 We lost, right?

01:35:49.000 And I remember I was like, now, at that point I was like, man, I fucked everything up now.

01:35:53.000 Because this is like, you know, this is the only...

01:35:55.000 Mind you, like, this is play, but this is like my family at this point.

01:35:57.000 I don't have no friends.

01:35:58.000 And I'm like, fuck, like, I failed these people.

01:36:02.000 Right?

01:36:03.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:36:04.000 Like, I done fucked up.

01:36:05.000 Now, they didn't, like, lose a bunch of money.

01:36:07.000 Like, I ended up selling their trucks for them.

01:36:08.000 They came out, like, fine.

01:36:10.000 You know what I mean?

01:36:10.000 But at this point, it felt like the end of the world.

01:36:12.000 And I remember going back to them.

01:36:14.000 And from my mindset where I'd been conditioned from what I used to do, I'm like...

01:36:17.000 That was like, you know, you're done, like, exiled shit, you know what I mean?

01:36:21.000 If you did that in other business, like, worse than exiled, you know what I'm saying?

01:36:25.000 You can't just fuck up like that and that.

01:36:27.000 But they were like, no, dude, it's okay.

01:36:29.000 Like, it's business.

01:36:30.000 Business is business, right?

01:36:31.000 So, they, at that point, they were like, you know, it is what it is.

01:36:36.000 Just help us sell the trucks, and we'll push behind it. 1.00

01:36:40.000 So, I helped them sell the trucks, but at this point, mind you, I'm, you know, still finding this case.

01:36:46.000 Now the business is blown up.

01:36:48.000 All the money I had gone, all the money I had made in trading, all the money I had, I had shoveled in this fucking business.

01:36:53.000 Like a madman.

01:36:54.000 That's another reason it stayed alive.

01:36:56.000 Yeah.

01:36:56.000 Because me and my partner went completely, like, negative into debt, right?

01:37:00.000 I was in, like, 20 grand of debt at this point.

01:37:02.000 Yeah.

01:37:02.000 Right?

01:37:03.000 So, rock bottom.

01:37:07.000 Again.

01:37:07.000 Completely fucked up.

01:37:08.000 Like, at this point, I was like, bro, how the fuck do you even get here?

01:37:11.000 Like, how does all this shit happen in your life?

01:37:12.000 And you fucking get to this point again.

01:37:15.000 At this time, how many field businesses did you have?

01:37:18.000 Just the, um, well, I skipped over a, so I also got into solar.

01:37:23.000 Like, I skipped over, like, multiple years here.

01:37:26.000 Whenever I first got back, before I, whenever my mother, my baby mother left, I, um, I hate that term, I know I said that, but the mother of my child, when she left, I also got into the solar business.

01:37:35.000 So you had a lot Yeah, I had a lot of failures, bro.

01:37:38.000 Yeah, a lot of failures, but business-wise, like two.

01:37:41.000 But that's a whole other thing.

01:37:42.000 I just try to not talk a whole fucking novel.

01:37:45.000 But I was in door-to-door sales for a while, too, before all this.

01:37:48.000 But anyways, at this point, I was like complete rock bottom, right?

01:37:54.000 And I had literally no fucking money.

01:37:57.000 Me and the girl that I'm with now are at this apartment.

01:37:59.000 I had to ask her, I was like, yo, I need you to cover rent this month.

01:38:02.000 I'll get it back next month.

01:38:04.000 What'd she say?

01:38:04.000 She was like, yeah, I got you 100%.

01:38:05.000 I remember she would ask me all the time when the business was going down, like, do I need to give you money?

01:38:10.000 Because she got an inheritance from her family.

01:38:12.000 She had money.

01:38:14.000 And I was like, no, absolutely fucking not.

01:38:16.000 She's like, baby, I don't need this money.

01:38:18.000 What the fuck am I going to do with it?

01:38:19.000 I was like, keep it.

01:38:20.000 You don't know what the fuck's going to happen to me.

01:38:21.000 But she was like, down, dude. 0.97

01:38:24.000 She's like, I'll throw it into it.

01:38:25.000 She's like, it's just money.

01:38:27.000 She's a real one.

01:38:28.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:38:28.000 She was like, it's just money.

01:38:30.000 Do you think if I gave it to you, it would make everything work?

01:38:33.000 And I was like, I don't know.

01:38:34.000 But even if it did, I wouldn't have taken that shit.

01:38:36.000 You know what I mean?

01:38:36.000 I don't like taking help like that.

01:38:39.000 Especially from your girl, bro.

01:38:41.000 That's not your role.

01:38:42.000 You know, that's not your role.

01:38:43.000 So, at that point, I remember I had to start doing DoorDash, bro.

01:38:49.000 Literally started doing it, because there's nothing.

01:38:51.000 You know what I mean?

01:38:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:38:51.000 Well, what's great, this is where I tell people, and I've never, like, talked about all this super publicly about this kind of my story, but, like, that's when people tell me shit, like, oh, you don't understand, I have nothing.

01:39:00.000 I'm like, motherfucker, like, yes, I do, bro.

01:39:02.000 Yes, I fucking do, because it does not fucking matter.

01:39:05.000 It does not matter.

01:39:07.000 You can have absolutely fucking nothing and come up to whatever the fuck you want to be.

01:39:10.000 I was writing fucking DoorDash, bro.

01:39:13.000 Damn.

01:39:13.000 Right, literally making $200 on a good day.

01:39:17.000 On a good day.

01:39:18.000 Did that shit all day long.

01:39:19.000 10-12 hours a day.

01:39:21.000 Every single day for like a month.

01:39:22.000 Ran up some money.

01:39:23.000 Put in a trading account.

01:39:25.000 And I was just completely full sending shit.

01:39:27.000 Trading crypto futures.

01:39:28.000 This is also right whenever I was going back into play a bit.

01:39:32.000 Completely at this point, there's nothing else.

01:39:34.000 My case was kind of coming.

01:39:36.000 At that point, I thought it was coming to an end.

01:39:38.000 I thought it was coming closer to an end.

01:39:40.000 But they kept pushing it off.

01:39:42.000 They'd be like, this is the last court date.

01:39:44.000 This is the last court date.

01:39:46.000 You know, you're going to trial if you don't take a deal because this time they had pled down to offer me ten years and then eight years, right?

01:39:51.000 And I was like, that's...

01:39:52.000 I'm dead at this point.

01:39:53.000 Like, that's still basically like a death sentence in my head at that point.

01:39:56.000 I was like, I'm not going.

01:39:56.000 I'm not doing that.

01:39:57.000 I'll go to trial.

01:40:00.000 But this is where things actually started to like take the fuck off because I was at such a rock bottom.

01:40:05.000 So low, where I realize, like, you gotta fucking completely get a hold of yourself if you have any fucking chance at getting through what you got ahead of.

01:40:14.000 Like, you've gone broke, you're in debt now, you got a girl that actually, like, is a good woman that you want to be with, you don't, you're not on drugs.

01:40:23.000 Like, you got everything, you got all the opportunities, like, you gotta, you know...

01:40:27.000 Figure it out.

01:40:28.000 Figure it the fuck out.

01:40:29.000 You know, if you have any chance of getting over and getting through this.

01:40:33.000 So this is where I went, and a lot of people probably saw this on social media.

01:40:36.000 I went, started running at, like, five in the morning every day.

01:40:39.000 Like, I went, like, the whole full fucking David Goggins thing.

01:40:42.000 Which I will say, you don't have to do that to become successful.

01:40:44.000 I think there's a big narrative that you have to do that.

01:40:46.000 You don't have to do that.

01:40:46.000 But I did.

01:40:47.000 That's what I did.

01:40:48.000 I was fat as fuck, too.

01:40:49.000 I got depressed.

01:40:49.000 I was drinking.

01:40:50.000 So I basically, like, completely reinvented myself.

01:40:53.000 Right?

01:40:53.000 I was waking up at 5 in the morning, going and running.

01:40:55.000 In Tennessee, it's cold as fuck in the winter.

01:40:57.000 I was running out there with a sauna suit on.

01:40:58.000 Fat as fuck.

01:40:59.000 I couldn't even run a half mile.

01:41:01.000 Fucking shins were about to explode. 1.00

01:41:03.000 Wheezing like a bitch. 1.00

01:41:04.000 I was running to the gym.

01:41:05.000 I remember I was like five, but I was like, I'm doing it.

01:41:07.000 I'm gonna do it.

01:41:08.000 You know what I mean?

01:41:10.000 So...

01:41:10.000 Hey, motivation, bro.

01:41:12.000 Yeah, man.

01:41:12.000 I mean, that's why I always look back and, like, I'm just...

01:41:14.000 I'm grateful, man, because it's fucking crazy, man.

01:41:18.000 Like, even sitting here telling this story today, like, sitting here with you guys, fucking crazy to me, bro. 0.82

01:41:22.000 I guarantee there's people watching me from my home city right now that are fucking mind-blowing.

01:41:26.000 Like, what the fuck?

01:41:26.000 How the fuck this even happened?

01:41:28.000 Because I was always a fucking loser.

01:41:30.000 I was a scumbag.

01:41:31.000 I didn't fuck people over.

01:41:32.000 I didn't do people wrong.

01:41:33.000 But I was a drug dealer.

01:41:35.000 I was known as that.

01:41:36.000 Everybody knew me as that.

01:41:37.000 This should be a movie, bro.

01:41:39.000 I made a documentary.

01:41:40.000 It's going to come out soon.

01:41:41.000 Okay.

01:41:41.000 Yeah, it's going to come out soon.

01:41:42.000 Maybe it was more in-depth.

01:41:43.000 And I went pretty in-depth today.

01:41:44.000 But I skipped over a couple things just for time's sake.

01:41:47.000 But...

01:41:48.000 You know, at that point...

01:41:52.000 Something just fucking snapped, bro.

01:41:54.000 Because I was like, you failed this.

01:41:56.000 What I started to think was like, there's no way all this fucking shit can happen to you.

01:42:01.000 All this crazy shit.

01:42:02.000 I fucking started a trucking business.

01:42:04.000 I had gotten through all this shit with the game.

01:42:06.000 Everything to this point, there's no way I'm just gonna, my story's gonna end just going to prison.

01:42:11.000 I was like, there's no way.

01:42:12.000 I don't accept that.

01:42:13.000 Right?

01:42:13.000 I went to like a delusional stage.

01:42:15.000 So at that point, I just put everything I had into just not being, you know, becoming a new version of myself.

01:42:21.000 Right?

01:42:21.000 So I started working out.

01:42:22.000 I got into like...

01:42:23.000 I mean, I was fasting, bro.

01:42:24.000 I did like a seven-day fast, bro.

01:42:25.000 I was fucking insane.

01:42:26.000 Like, literal.

01:42:27.000 Is that healthy?

01:42:28.000 Probably not, bro.

01:42:28.000 No, but probably mental strength for him.

01:42:30.000 It was all mental.

01:42:31.000 It was all mental.

01:42:31.000 Started cold plunging.

01:42:32.000 All that shit, bro.

01:42:33.000 I remember I did a ten-minute cold plunge the second time I did it.

01:42:35.000 It was like crazy.

01:42:36.000 She was just like trying to... 1.00

01:42:38.000 Like, I was literally psycho shit, bro.

01:42:39.000 My girl was like...

01:42:41.000 Fuck, like, okay, babe, like, this is good, but not, like, that crazy.

01:42:45.000 But really, man, that's where I started to, like, do well.

01:42:48.000 And I started to journal every day.

01:42:49.000 I was reading every day.

01:42:50.000 I woke up at, like, 5 in the morning.

01:42:53.000 And at this point, I had been trading the whole time, too.

01:42:55.000 And, like, I'd made good money trading.

01:42:57.000 But I remember sitting there calling out trades in Playbit.

01:43:00.000 Like, I was giving out trades.

01:43:02.000 And I was like making like $70 on a fucking trade.

01:43:05.000 I showed you like $70, $80 because I was trying to flip this DoorDash money and people are in there posting P&Ls where they're making thousands off a trade I called.

01:43:12.000 And I'm like, what the fuck is going on, bro?

01:43:15.000 And I used to make money like that.

01:43:18.000 And then I fell off, and I was just, you know, it's crazy, bro.

01:43:22.000 That's very humbling.

01:43:23.000 Imagine you're making a 70, 80 bucks profit.

01:43:25.000 Someone's doing your same play, making thousands of dollars.

01:43:27.000 So what made them, what ended up getting you, like, only the six months, I guess?

01:43:32.000 Like, you got a new lawyer.

01:43:34.000 Right.

01:43:35.000 Well, so they ended up delaying the case, though.

01:43:38.000 They kept saying that.

01:43:39.000 But then they kept, there was, like, a bunch of things like, oh, like, they couldn't gather witnesses for a trial was a thing.

01:43:44.000 Or, oh, then the feds are going to pick it up.

01:43:46.000 So we're gonna put it off.

01:43:47.000 Oh, this, right?

01:43:48.000 So you were threatening to go to trial?

01:43:51.000 Yeah.

01:43:51.000 Oh, I told my lawyer, because me and my fucking lawyer at this time fucking hated each other.

01:43:55.000 Okay.

01:43:56.000 I fucking hated this dude.

01:43:57.000 Like, literally, I remember- He wasn't a public defender, right?

01:43:59.000 No, no, fuck no, no, no.

01:44:00.000 He was like the hotshot in that city.

01:44:02.000 Oh, okay.

01:44:03.000 But he was also- I'm not- I'm gonna leave- I won't say things directly.

01:44:06.000 Let's just say he was very connected in that area.

01:44:09.000 Gotcha.

01:44:10.000 And this is a very, very political, high-level case, right?

01:44:12.000 Yeah.

01:44:13.000 So, you can, you know, and I started to realize things.

01:44:16.000 And I was like, you know, I knew that I needed to get rid of them, but I didn't have any money.

01:44:21.000 I was in debt.

01:44:22.000 I was in fucking debt.

01:44:23.000 Yeah.

01:44:24.000 So, I remember I started to actually start...

01:44:27.000 Seeing more consistency in trading.

01:44:28.000 This is where I actually started to really make money trading, right?

01:44:32.000 So I started off with like a $1,500 Binance account.

01:44:34.000 Quadrupled that, had six grand, and then I ended up just trading a bunch of crypto all the time.

01:44:39.000 And then that's when I discovered prop firms later on.

01:44:41.000 And you made that money from the DoorDash, right?

01:44:42.000 Right, from DoorDash.

01:44:43.000 That's why I want to have people.

01:44:44.000 That's crazy.

01:44:44.000 You cannot say, oh, I don't have a job.

01:44:47.000 Oh, I don't have this.

01:44:47.000 Yeah, no excuses.

01:44:49.000 No excuses, bro.

01:44:49.000 Literally, go fucking sell shit on Facebook, bro.

01:44:51.000 Go find shit on Facebook Market.

01:44:53.000 People say that shit and they're on fucking their phones all day.

01:44:56.000 Yeah.

01:44:56.000 On Instagram.

01:44:57.000 Yeah.

01:44:58.000 It's crazy.

01:44:59.000 But, um, TikTok.

01:45:01.000 Yeah.

01:45:01.000 So I started, I started really, you know, seeing consistency, started making money.

01:45:06.000 And I was also like posting on Twitter, starting to like be a member of the community there.

01:45:10.000 And I remember that's when I figured out what prop firms were.

01:45:11.000 Now this is back, fast forward to 2022, right?

01:45:13.000 Or late, late 2022. Um, like August, it was like May or August, something like that.

01:45:18.000 Cause Hollex, that was a trucking company, failed in February when the Ukraine war.

01:45:22.000 Yeah.

01:45:22.000 It was like, like summer of 2022. Yep.

01:45:25.000 And I remember I got funded with this prop firm that's now no longer here called My Forex Funds.

01:45:29.000 It ended up blowing up because the fucking feds hit him with the case for being like a complete...

01:45:34.000 I think you guys actually talked about it with Raul and Q, because I watched the episode before I came in.

01:45:39.000 Back in the day.

01:45:39.000 Yeah, that prop firm, I got funded with them.

01:45:43.000 And I remember I got funded with a 300k account.

01:45:45.000 This is back when prop firms were way crazier.

01:45:46.000 You could make way more money than you can now.

01:45:49.000 Well, I mean, you can still make that kind of money, to be clear.

01:45:52.000 It was a lot easier because they had bigger drawdowns.

01:45:55.000 You could lose 12% of that account.

01:45:57.000 Anyway, they didn't have all sorts of crazy rules to pay you out.

01:46:00.000 But I remember getting that account, and even though I had traded size before, even though I had done well with my own money and traded very well and called out a bunch of trades, it completely fucking wrecked my mentality.

01:46:16.000 Because now I had hope to actually come out of this hole I was in.

01:46:19.000 I had this opportunity where now you've got this 300k account, but it was like it put this, you know, these blinders on me where I was so scared of everything.

01:46:27.000 Like I was overthinking everything.

01:46:28.000 It wasn't like me.

01:46:30.000 And I remember I valued my fucking self on this performance of this trading because I was like, bro, you fucking have a chance.

01:46:36.000 Don't fuck this up.

01:46:38.000 And I fucked it up.

01:46:39.000 I blew that account.

01:46:39.000 It was like a slow, painful death of just blowing this account.

01:46:43.000 So I blew that account and then I ended up getting two more because you can get fun with multiple.

01:46:48.000 I got two more and that's when I started having a huge success.

01:46:51.000 Isn't that like gambling a little bit?

01:46:53.000 Yeah, hell yeah.

01:46:54.000 Trading is gambling.

01:46:55.000 Educated gambling.

01:46:56.000 Anybody who says it's not...

01:46:57.000 I mean, it's not gambling in the same...

01:46:59.000 Because gambling, definitively, is like you're placing money on a probabilistic outcome.

01:47:03.000 That's what trading is.

01:47:04.000 Now, gambling, what most people think of gambling is like, I'm going to put my entire net worth on something and hope it returns.

01:47:08.000 That's not what I'm saying.

01:47:09.000 I'm not saying trading is like that, to be clear.

01:47:10.000 But to a level, you're an educated gambler, right?

01:47:14.000 Yeah.

01:47:16.000 So, that was when I started having, like, my big run, right?

01:47:19.000 So, I remember I got my first payout, I think it was like $22,000, something like that, and then I started getting like $22,000, or it was like $34,000, $19,000, and I started actually getting like five-figure payouts pretty consistently.

01:47:29.000 Then you got rid of that lawyer.

01:47:31.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:47:31.000 That's when I went on this like generational, it wasn't generational to now, but like at that point, bro, like, remember I was in debt.

01:47:37.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:47:38.000 20K in debt, and then you were able to almost get out of it.

01:47:40.000 Yeah, I ran it up.

01:47:41.000 I didn't even pay the debt off.

01:47:42.000 I was like, fuck that.

01:47:42.000 I got to keep the cash.

01:47:43.000 Fuck the debt.

01:47:44.000 What's that?

01:47:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:47:46.000 You know?

01:47:47.000 Well, at least until this case was done.

01:47:48.000 Right, right.

01:47:49.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:47:50.000 Well, what's funny, funny enough...

01:47:52.000 What I ended up doing...

01:47:54.000 So I ended up getting like credit repair.

01:47:56.000 I didn't pay that shit because they already put it to collection at this point.

01:47:59.000 So it wasn't that.

01:48:00.000 So I ended up paying a credit repair due to...

01:48:02.000 What's so funny, bro, speaking of Kevo, I remember he was in the big in the credit repair space and I saw something.

01:48:08.000 I was like, oh, you can do this.

01:48:09.000 I didn't know that was a thing.

01:48:10.000 So I had my credit cleaned and then I did like the trade lines, built up credit.

01:48:15.000 And then with the money that I had made and the credit cards that I got, because I went and applied for like all the credit cards at once.

01:48:21.000 Like that, you know, that was like the whole credits.

01:48:23.000 That saved you, huh?

01:48:24.000 Yeah, I ended up spending everything I had and getting a lawyer.

01:48:27.000 It was a whole 10. So have you ever seen the movie Masterminds?

01:48:29.000 With Zach Galifianakis, like the bank robber.

01:48:32.000 Like he was like the...

01:48:33.000 It's like a comedy, but it's about the biggest bank.

01:48:35.000 I think it's like the second biggest bank robber in U.S. history.

01:48:38.000 Really?

01:48:39.000 Okay.

01:48:39.000 He was that dude's lawyer.

01:48:41.000 Okay.

01:48:41.000 He was also the lawyer of the largest marijuana case in U.S. history, too.

01:48:45.000 The dude was shipping weed over from Taiwan.

01:48:47.000 It was in the 60s or something, like thousands and thousands of pounds.

01:48:50.000 So I hired him.

01:48:52.000 And five other lawyers from his firm, because you hire all of them.

01:48:55.000 Yeah.

01:48:55.000 So at this point...

01:48:56.000 How much did that cost you?

01:48:57.000 It was $130,000.

01:48:58.000 Okay.

01:48:59.000 To take your case on?

01:49:00.000 Yeah.

01:49:01.000 All right.

01:49:01.000 Yeah.

01:49:01.000 They were no fucking joke, bro.

01:49:02.000 I remember something that was like, Thank you.

01:49:04.000 I need to pay it all at once but I started I had to pay 80k at once so it's all the money I had and then I ended up using like I remember I was like that I knew that this these that was like they probably thought I was such a degenerate because I was like hey can I run let me run this card for this much and run this card for this much because I fucking maxed out all my shit.

01:49:21.000 They were probably like damn this guy's a fucking psycho.

01:49:24.000 Yeah it's worth it I guess in that case so they come in and then and then how long were they on the case before you ended up?

01:49:30.000 So they came in and at this point too okay so There's a little bit I'm leaving out at this point.

01:49:36.000 So okay, so during that run, that was in late 2022 and going into 2023. That's also whenever I started making YouTube videos.

01:49:46.000 Because I had a YouTube this whole time, I had a YouTube where I was just streaming my trades live for PlayBit.

01:49:51.000 So back in the day, Discord could only have 50 people in a chat.

01:49:55.000 So I would stream on YouTube just so people could watch me trade.

01:49:58.000 Watch you trade, yeah.

01:49:59.000 So that was how my YouTube grew originally.

01:50:02.000 A lot of people like the guy that made a hit piece on me tried to say that I just like made up my online persona after I got in trouble.

01:50:08.000 It's fucking stupid.

01:50:09.000 It's funny.

01:50:09.000 But that was how my YouTube came to be was that I had like 2,000 subs in January 2023. So mind you, I'm like a fucking nobody online.

01:50:18.000 I didn't know what content creation was.

01:50:19.000 This is just a fucking year and a half ago, bro.

01:50:21.000 Like actually almost two years.

01:50:23.000 It's crazy how fast that goes.

01:50:24.000 But I went from 2,000 subs in 2023 To where I'm at now is 200k, like 195. Let's go!

01:50:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:50:32.000 It's crazy, bro.

01:50:33.000 So I was documenting a lot of it.

01:50:34.000 I used to trade live on Twitch.

01:50:35.000 It's so funny, too, because, you know, in trading, everybody that sells a course or something always is a scammer.

01:50:41.000 And then they try to play that angle on me because of my past and shit.

01:50:44.000 It's like, bro, I literally traded fucking live.

01:50:46.000 That's how I got, like, famous.

01:50:47.000 We'll call it famous, whatever.

01:50:48.000 I still trade live every single day.

01:50:50.000 But that was how I came up on YouTube, was trading live, posting a lot of videos.

01:50:55.000 So, mind you, I fired that lawyer in the end of January 2023. I posted my first organized YouTube video in January 2023. But that first YouTube video busted me to like 10-15k subs.

01:51:07.000 I fired these lawyers, fired the one lawyer, hired the other six.

01:51:11.000 I was like, let's fucking go.

01:51:14.000 I was like, either I'm going to get out of this shit or I will fucking go down fighting.

01:51:18.000 And I was a fucking madman at this point.

01:51:19.000 Like, there was no turning back.

01:51:21.000 My mom, my dad, everybody begged me to take a deal because they had offered eight years at this point.

01:51:25.000 They're like, eight years is a lot different than 15. And no, it doesn't sound like it.

01:51:28.000 And I was like, fuck that shit.

01:51:29.000 We're not doing it.

01:51:30.000 I didn't come this fucking far.

01:51:31.000 I didn't come do all this.

01:51:33.000 I didn't build this brand.

01:51:34.000 I didn't do all this shit and go through everything I went through to just fucking take a deal and go to prison.

01:51:39.000 Right.

01:51:41.000 And I knew I had these lawyers, because as soon as I hired them, bro, this is the craziest thing.

01:51:45.000 You know how many motions my other lawyer filed?

01:51:48.000 How many?

01:51:49.000 Two.

01:51:50.000 You know what they were?

01:51:51.000 One of them was a motion of discovery, which is fucking...

01:51:54.000 They have to do that.

01:51:55.000 Yeah.

01:51:55.000 The other one was a motion to suppress evidence that they found in my California house, which was nothing.

01:52:02.000 Yeah.

01:52:03.000 They didn't find any evidence.

01:52:05.000 Yeah.

01:52:06.000 That was the only motion that was filed.

01:52:07.000 And I didn't really know this, but I had asked him, like, what are we doing?

01:52:10.000 Oh, you know, there's not really much you can do.

01:52:12.000 And that's why at this point I fucking hated this guy.

01:52:14.000 I never forget having to fire him in court.

01:52:17.000 Mmm.

01:52:18.000 Having to be like, you know, they're calling everybody up, you stand next to him, and he didn't know I was gonna fire him.

01:52:22.000 Yeah.

01:52:23.000 The other lawyers are in there, and I'm like, Your Honor, I need to make a statement of the court.

01:52:28.000 Yeah.

01:52:28.000 Everybody's like...

01:52:29.000 Yeah, so it's on the record.

01:52:29.000 Because you don't talk in court.

01:52:30.000 So it's on the record.

01:52:31.000 Yeah, you don't talk in court, like, if you're the...

01:52:33.000 Yeah.

01:52:33.000 Unless you're a psycho, you know.

01:52:35.000 And they're like...

01:52:38.000 Okay, continue.

01:52:38.000 I was like, today I'm going to be relieving Mr. Bowman for my counsel.

01:52:42.000 Damn.

01:52:42.000 Everybody was like, what the fuck?

01:52:45.000 Yeah, because he's a house shot lawyer in town.

01:52:47.000 Yeah, and then they're like, okay, well, who's going to be, you know, taking this case?

01:52:52.000 All these five lawyers stood up because they weren't all there.

01:52:55.000 Five of them stood up.

01:52:56.000 It was like, oh, we got it from here, Your Honor.

01:52:58.000 And at that point, I was like, I have a chance.

01:53:02.000 That's a movie-type clip.

01:53:03.000 Talk about the most crazy rush of dopamine, adrenaline you ever felt in your fucking life.

01:53:06.000 My heart was beating so goddamn fast in that moment, bro.

01:53:08.000 Having to say that in the court, bro.

01:53:10.000 That was one of the craziest moments of my life.

01:53:11.000 Well, that's good, because the prosecutor didn't know this was coming either.

01:53:14.000 Yeah.

01:53:14.000 Good strategy.

01:53:15.000 So, I didn't really know it was coming either until, like, the last minute either, to be fair.

01:53:19.000 Like, as soon as I figured out, because also, adding onto that, they had said that the trial dates, they had already reserved trial for March.

01:53:26.000 Right.

01:53:27.000 And this happened in January.

01:53:28.000 So, like, they had reserved a week.

01:53:30.000 They didn't set it because they can't set it until, you know, you're past...

01:53:32.000 It's like a deadline for motions.

01:53:34.000 I think a motion deadline or something.

01:53:36.000 But they said that was going to be that day, and that was the day that I fired them.

01:53:39.000 Nice.

01:53:39.000 So then they were like...

01:53:40.000 Good timing.

01:53:41.000 Okay, well, we're going to have to extend this for at least six months.

01:53:43.000 But I never even had to go to court after that.

01:53:45.000 Wow.

01:53:46.000 Because those lawyers, they fired, like, 27 motions the next court day.

01:53:50.000 Wow.

01:53:51.000 And I was like, oh, fuck, like, this might really be possible.

01:53:55.000 You know?

01:53:55.000 Yeah, I mean, having good defense counsel is literally critical, man, in the criminal justice system.

01:54:01.000 And guys, just so you guys know, we are going to do After Hours.

01:54:03.000 Yes.

01:54:03.000 Chris is going to be here soon.

01:54:05.000 So, yeah, we'll do After Hours right after this.

01:54:07.000 I've got some chats as well.

01:54:08.000 Some questions from people.

01:54:10.000 Cool.

01:54:10.000 Questions?

01:54:11.000 Okay, yeah, we can do that.

01:54:12.000 And then also, just so you guys know, we got Castle Club Premium.

01:54:15.000 Yes.

01:54:16.000 Sale, it's going to go up to $98.

01:54:18.000 You can go ahead and get it now for $65.

01:54:20.000 And we're also going to go ahead and give you guys a link if you guys want to get an annual.

01:54:24.000 And the annual, I think we're going to price it if you guys only have $500 for the year.

01:54:28.000 That's fire.

01:54:29.000 Yeah, that's a good deal.

01:54:30.000 Instead of paying $780 or even more, it would have been like $1,200.

01:54:33.000 If you did it, you can go ahead and get it for $500 for the year.

01:54:36.000 So we got y'all.

01:54:37.000 And the software's only going to last for a little bit.

01:54:40.000 What do we got here?

01:54:41.000 With the chats.

01:54:43.000 Go ahead, Fresh.

01:54:44.000 You got it.

01:54:45.000 Debbie Casper for holding himself accountable for his bad decisions.

01:54:47.000 I'm not blaming his parents like them 304s. 1.00

01:54:50.000 He means the girls that come on the show that blame... 0.99

01:54:53.000 Other people, but not themselves.

01:54:54.000 Yeah, no, my parents were amazing fucking parents, bro.

01:54:56.000 Like, amazing.

01:54:57.000 It's actually insane.

01:54:59.000 Like, looking back, I shouldn't have done...

01:55:02.000 There's no reason for me to do that.

01:55:03.000 I was just, like, a lot of energy and a lot of anger.

01:55:06.000 And I, like, wanted...

01:55:08.000 I always had a lot of ambition.

01:55:09.000 And the first thing that I saw that had any, like, resemblance of business was selling drugs.

01:55:13.000 Yeah.

01:55:14.000 That was the only reason it was that.

01:55:15.000 It could have been anything else.

01:55:15.000 I probably would have latched onto it.

01:55:17.000 But I latched onto that.

01:55:19.000 You made it up, bro.

01:55:20.000 Thank God.

01:55:20.000 What's the next one?

01:55:24.000 We got here, Ron Martinez says, I'm interested in investing in dividend stocks.

01:55:28.000 Would ULTY be a good choice?

01:55:31.000 If no, then else dividend stock would you consider?

01:55:34.000 You know, non-financial advice here.

01:55:36.000 I'm just kidding, but I actually bought some Walgreens and Verizon.

01:55:40.000 And other ones are good too, like AT&T is good for long term.

01:55:44.000 Coca-Cola is really good for dividends.

01:55:47.000 I always tell people too, like I'm happy to tell what I'm doing with investing, but a lot of people mistake trading for investing.

01:55:54.000 Not the same.

01:55:55.000 Not the same.

01:55:56.000 Trading and investing are completely different.

01:55:58.000 Investing is like, you're going to look at either something's value, what you value, its intrinsic real value.

01:56:05.000 Like Bitcoin, you can't really do company financials.

01:56:07.000 You just know its value because you believe in it as a decentralized source of money.

01:56:11.000 Something like Coca-Cola, you can look, say, okay, this company's been paying out dividends for 100 years.

01:56:16.000 That's different.

01:56:17.000 That's investing, right?

01:56:18.000 You either have a hope in something because you believe in it, or you've been able to run the numbers.

01:56:23.000 And there's a book, The Intelligent Investor.

01:56:27.000 I highly recommend...

01:56:28.000 Everybody should read that book, even if you're not trying to start investing, because you should.

01:56:31.000 And it'll teach you...

01:56:32.000 There's the defensive and the aggressive investor, right?

01:56:37.000 Aggressive is just too much time for me, because at that point, you're kind of trading, but you're trying to run a fund at that point.

01:56:43.000 Okay.

01:56:43.000 But the passive investor is actually rather simple.

01:56:46.000 Like you don't even move everything except every six months.

01:56:49.000 You just trade between bonds and stocks that pay dividends.

01:56:52.000 And you have a very consistent way of kind of qualifying stocks.

01:56:55.000 And you just look at stocks that have been paying dividends for a long time.

01:56:59.000 Don't try to, you know, play...

01:57:01.000 If you're going for dividends, don't try to play the game of like, you know, hitting big on percentages of what you gain like from the stock itself, right?

01:57:09.000 You know, you're probably not going to triple your money off Coca-Cola.

01:57:11.000 I mean, you will...

01:57:12.000 In the long, long term because of inflation.

01:57:13.000 We'll take time.

01:57:14.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:57:15.000 Okay.

01:57:16.000 What's the next one, Bills?

01:57:19.000 Sammy056 says, Fresh, can you work your networking magic and get Samuel Onuha on for Money Monday?

01:57:25.000 He does e-commerce slash dropshipping.

01:57:27.000 Mentioned on Myron's stream the other day.

01:57:29.000 Not sure if he told you.

01:57:30.000 I don't know who that is, but I'll look him up for you.

01:57:31.000 No problem, bro.

01:57:34.000 You know what it is?

01:57:35.000 I know who he is, yeah.

01:57:36.000 I don't know him, but I've been seeing him.

01:57:38.000 He's killing the short form game for sure.

01:57:40.000 I think he's in Dubai or something.

01:57:42.000 He's got the G-Wagons always in the shots. 1.00

01:57:44.000 Is he black?

01:57:45.000 Yeah.

01:57:45.000 Oh, I did see him on my Explore page.

01:57:48.000 Yeah, he's doing good on content.

01:57:49.000 I don't know anything about him.

01:57:50.000 He's a brother, right?

01:57:50.000 Huh?

01:57:51.000 He's a brother, right?

01:57:52.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:57:52.000 There's two.

01:57:53.000 He has two.

01:57:53.000 I saw the Lambo.

01:57:55.000 The Lambos.

01:57:56.000 Okay, cool.

01:57:56.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:57:56.000 He's killing the content game.

01:57:58.000 I've seen him, but I don't know him personally.

01:58:01.000 Guessley says, Casper, you may have, you may legit have a Grand Theft Auto story made about your life.

01:58:06.000 That's a good story, bro.

01:58:08.000 Well stuff.

01:58:09.000 Congrats on your success.

01:58:10.000 Keep going.

01:58:11.000 Hey, thank you, man.

01:58:12.000 And I just wanted to be clear on this, too.

01:58:14.000 I don't want to glorify it at all.

01:58:17.000 Like, it's not, it ain't cool.

01:58:19.000 Like, yeah, it's crazy.

01:58:20.000 And, like, I ain't even really told that happened, man.

01:58:22.000 One day we'll probably talk in some way crazier shit I don't even talk about on here.

01:58:25.000 But, like...

01:58:27.000 I highly recommend anybody listening to this shit that is even remotely involved in it that should just stop because you can make way more money doing other things, not having to fucking look over your shoulder, not losing everybody.

01:58:38.000 Because, dude, it's crazy because I was thinking about this last night when I was in the room looking over the city.

01:58:45.000 I was like, man, it would be so crazy if I would have been able to enjoy this kind of success with the people I came up with.

01:58:55.000 Yeah.

01:58:55.000 I never will.

01:58:57.000 Yeah.

01:58:58.000 You know?

01:58:58.000 So...

01:58:58.000 Sad.

01:58:59.000 Yeah, it is what it is.

01:59:00.000 I'm grateful for it.

01:59:01.000 Like, I'm grateful that I got arrested.

01:59:04.000 It's the best thing that ever happened to me in my life is that I got arrested.

01:59:07.000 You know who you gotta thank too?

01:59:09.000 Playbit.

01:59:09.000 100%?

01:59:10.000 No, Playboy.

01:59:11.000 Playboy, if it wasn't for Playboy, I would not be where I'm at today.

01:59:14.000 I would not have ever made a YouTube.

01:59:15.000 I never had the intention of being a content creator.

01:59:17.000 I never had the intention of...

01:59:20.000 I wanted to be a traitor and that was it, right?

01:59:22.000 Yeah.

01:59:22.000 The only reason I became a content creator is because he gave me an opportunity.

01:59:25.000 And honestly, that made me a way better trader because trading in front of people, like, anybody who's watching this in trades, they can tell you trading in front of people is not very easy.

01:59:35.000 But it makes you a way better trader because you're accountable.

01:59:38.000 Like, if I had to literally trade in front of people live for years, you know how much better of a trader that makes you?

01:59:43.000 Yeah.

01:59:43.000 Because you're under pressure that's, like, in your face.

01:59:46.000 Yeah.

01:59:46.000 And it's like, trading's already mental enough.

01:59:48.000 Like, I remember when I used to stream on Twitch.

01:59:49.000 I'm so glad I don't stream on Twitch.

01:59:51.000 I just stream for, like, my mentorship now.

01:59:53.000 But I love streaming with them because that's, like, these people are serious and dedicated.

01:59:57.000 Like, we have people making hundreds of thousands of dollars in there.

02:00:00.000 If you're live streaming on Twitch, there's somebody in there that's going to lose, like, $20.

02:00:03.000 I'm like, fuck you.

02:00:04.000 You suck.

02:00:05.000 Scammer.

02:00:06.000 Piece of shit, you know, and it just gets so used to get to me.

02:00:08.000 I could give a fuck less now, man.

02:00:10.000 Yeah, I could give a fuck less.

02:00:11.000 I look at it like this.

02:00:12.000 I'm like, you know, Jeremy gave you the stamp.

02:00:14.000 That's all I needed.

02:00:15.000 Right?

02:00:15.000 Yeah.

02:00:16.000 Jeremy's a Jeremy's a legend, bro.

02:00:17.000 Jeremy's a legend.

02:00:18.000 Yeah, a lot of respect for Jeremy, dude.

02:00:20.000 A lot of respect for Jeremy.

02:00:21.000 And he's a great example.

02:00:22.000 I tell people about this.

02:00:23.000 I actually I tell people a story like in my group, Jeremy, he hadn't even traded before.

02:00:31.000 He came in and made $900,000 from Apex.

02:00:34.000 Anybody listen to this?

02:00:35.000 They're probably not even going to believe that.

02:00:37.000 But it's 100% legit.

02:00:38.000 No, I didn't believe it until he showed me it.

02:00:39.000 Yeah.

02:00:39.000 I was like, bro.

02:00:40.000 He's plugged in with Apex.

02:00:41.000 Put me on game with your mentor, which is you.

02:00:43.000 So shout out to you, bro.

02:00:44.000 But what does that tell you, though?

02:00:46.000 Yeah.

02:00:46.000 What does that tell you?

02:00:47.000 Like, if 95% of people fail at trading, but then one dude comes in and is successful, what does that tell you?

02:00:54.000 It tells you that it's not that trading is so hard.

02:00:56.000 It's just that people don't fucking get themselves in check.

02:00:59.000 Yeah.

02:00:59.000 If you take a top 1% person in anything and put them in anything else, they're gonna fucking win.

02:01:04.000 They'll learn a system.

02:01:05.000 Even if they fail.

02:01:05.000 It's because of how you think and how you operate and what level and what standard you hold yourself to.

02:01:10.000 Yeah.

02:01:10.000 And that's the biggest problem with traders.

02:01:12.000 Half the time is they want to fucking blame other things.

02:01:14.000 They want to blame the market.

02:01:15.000 They want to blame some guru.

02:01:16.000 They want to blame the fucking prop firm.

02:01:18.000 They want to blame everything.

02:01:20.000 But people that are successful, and I see this like in my mentorship, I charge more than most people do, right?

02:01:26.000 100%.

02:01:26.000 Now, I do more than most people do, too.

02:01:28.000 I help people a lot one-on-one.

02:01:29.000 I review all their trades, every single one of them, and a lot of others to trade live with them.

02:01:33.000 Way different than just a course.

02:01:34.000 Oh, yeah, there's a free course, a whole free course link in the description.

02:01:38.000 You guys can download that totally free.

02:01:40.000 Yeah, it teaches you literally everything you need to know.

02:01:44.000 Yeah, it's everything.

02:01:45.000 It's like an hour and a half worth of video, all for free, so go ahead and download that.

02:01:50.000 Yeah, man.

02:01:51.000 But I trade live with all my people every day, Tuesday through Thursday.

02:01:55.000 And the people in there, they're higher level people.

02:01:59.000 And a lot of the time, they paid higher and they take it more seriously.

02:02:03.000 And they're more financially stable, ready to actually fucking make money.

02:02:05.000 Instead of like a lot of people, they go into trading.

02:02:08.000 They go into trading with their last dollar.

02:02:10.000 They haven't taken the time to develop themselves.

02:02:12.000 They fucking wake up 10 minutes before the market opens.

02:02:15.000 Roll out of bed, fucking try to buy some meme coin and make money and then be like, oh, that's why trading has such a high failure rate.

02:02:20.000 It's not because it's that fucking hard.

02:02:22.000 It is hard, but anything worth doing is fucking hard.

02:02:24.000 Yeah.

02:02:25.000 But the thing is, people in trading have such a low barrier to entry that you get people that haven't really developed themselves yet.

02:02:30.000 And then they get mad when they lose.

02:02:32.000 Yeah.

02:02:33.000 That makes sense, bro.

02:02:34.000 I see it all the time.

02:02:36.000 All the time.

02:02:37.000 What's the next one?

02:02:40.000 It's Johnny.

02:02:42.000 Shout out to Casper.

02:02:43.000 See my guy come up from Playbit, where we met four to five years ago.

02:02:46.000 Respect, proud of you, G. Johnny.

02:02:48.000 Man, Johnny's a legend, bro.

02:02:49.000 Johnny's a legend.

02:02:50.000 Yeah, yeah, man.

02:02:51.000 I remember me and him.

02:02:52.000 He actually was funny.

02:02:53.000 Crazy story.

02:02:54.000 So he got me into e-com years ago.

02:02:58.000 It was when I got into Playbit.

02:03:00.000 He was one of the first members of Playbit, too.

02:03:02.000 And he was killing it with e-com.

02:03:03.000 I remember talking to this dude.

02:03:04.000 He was like, yeah, I made $60,000 last month selling puppy piss pads.

02:03:08.000 I'm like, what the fuck is this dude doing?

02:03:10.000 Tell me how to do that.

02:03:11.000 And what's crazy, you know Jordan Welch?

02:03:12.000 Yeah.

02:03:13.000 That's like my bro now.

02:03:14.000 He literally put me onto Jordan's YouTube videos years ago, and I remember watching this trying to do dropshipping.

02:03:19.000 I didn't stick with it because I was trading.

02:03:20.000 Yeah.

02:03:21.000 But I remember Johnny put me onto that.

02:03:22.000 I watched his videos, and now, like, I was just with Jordan a couple weeks ago when I was in Miami.

02:03:26.000 Fucking crazy, isn't that?

02:03:27.000 Like, that's crazy.

02:03:28.000 How the world works is funny.

02:03:29.000 Yeah, man.

02:03:29.000 I had no intention of being a content creator or anything.

02:03:31.000 It's wild, but shout out to Johnny, man.

02:03:33.000 He's a real one, man.

02:03:34.000 I like you here.

02:03:34.000 Yeah, man.

02:03:36.000 We got here, Kid Crew says, trading off and on for four to five years, a 35% win rate, $300 account.

02:03:43.000 Took a break to focus on my career to allow more adding capital and decrease win percent.

02:03:48.000 I'm focusing on consistency, gym, work, sleep, and thoughts.

02:03:51.000 Focus on your career, bro.

02:03:52.000 You need to make some money, just being 100 with you.

02:03:55.000 300 bucks, you shouldn't be trading.

02:03:57.000 Maybe you have more to spend, maybe you don't.

02:03:59.000 I would say, wait until you comfortably have 5,000 bucks It's like if you spent $5,000 on a vacation right now, it wouldn't fuck you up.

02:04:10.000 That's how you have to look at it.

02:04:11.000 Now, am I saying you're going to blow the whole $5,000?

02:04:13.000 No.

02:04:13.000 Do you have to use the whole $5,000 to trade?

02:04:15.000 No.

02:04:15.000 But it's going to give you a cushion.

02:04:16.000 Now, work on the other things during that time.

02:04:19.000 Work on sleep, go to the gym.

02:04:20.000 Just become a better human, man.

02:04:22.000 One of the first things that I do when I work with people, I get them in.

02:04:25.000 I say, okay, we're going to track your habits.

02:04:26.000 We're going to track every trade you take.

02:04:28.000 You're going to fill out this form before you trade.

02:04:29.000 You're going to fill it out after you trade.

02:04:30.000 If you don't, we're going to be in touch with you, reminding you of why you signed up Like, oh, you signed up because you want to retire your mom?

02:04:37.000 Oh, you didn't wake up and check a fucking notion box, but you want to retire your mom. 0.79

02:04:42.000 Like, you know, it's a fucking joke, right?

02:04:45.000 That's, you have to get all that in line, and you know, like, anyone who's listening to this, you know whether or not you're locked in like that.

02:04:51.000 Because if you're not, you have no fucking business trying to come into an industry where 95% of people fail and expect any different.

02:04:57.000 There's no fucking sense in that.

02:04:59.000 So I always tell people, get your money right, focus on a career, be confident that you can make money.

02:05:04.000 Like, because look, I'm not gonna say you have to do that, because obviously I didn't do that.

02:05:08.000 But it also took me almost eight years, right?

02:05:11.000 Before I really had my big year, right?

02:05:13.000 It was like six and a half years before I really had like, or five and a half years, before I really had a big breakthrough, right?

02:05:20.000 Five and a half fucking years.

02:05:21.000 You guys realize?

02:05:22.000 A lot of these guys are young as fuck.

02:05:23.000 Five and a half years ago, you motherfuckers were probably still in high school, or maybe you are in high school.

02:05:27.000 Yeah.

02:05:28.000 Right?

02:05:29.000 But it doesn't have to take you that long.

02:05:32.000 But the only way it won't take you that long is if you get yourself together where you've leveled up, you've grown up, manned up, and have some money.

02:05:39.000 And have confidence that you're good no matter what.

02:05:42.000 And if you lose it, it doesn't matter.

02:05:44.000 Exactly.

02:05:44.000 Trading is not...

02:05:46.000 A broke man is at a disadvantage in trading.

02:05:48.000 Got it.

02:05:49.000 You know?

02:05:50.000 I would say, like, get another skill.

02:05:51.000 Like, if you have no money, like, learn sales.

02:05:54.000 Like, learn something.

02:05:56.000 Make some money.

02:05:56.000 Like, I'm not saying you have to go work a job you hate, but make some money, then come back to trading once you've been developed.

02:06:01.000 Uber Eats.

02:06:02.000 Try something, man.

02:06:03.000 Yeah, man.

02:06:04.000 Alright.

02:06:06.000 Let's go ahead, Bills.

02:06:08.000 That's it.

02:06:09.000 Okay, Casper, aka Jesse.

02:06:12.000 We've been through your whole story, man.

02:06:14.000 It's been incredible.

02:06:15.000 Almost like a movie.

02:06:16.000 I want to see the documentary, by the way.

02:06:17.000 Yeah, it's coming out soon, man.

02:06:18.000 Send it to me right away when it comes out.

02:06:21.000 Where can they find you?

02:06:22.000 And what's up next for you?

02:06:23.000 Yeah, man.

02:06:24.000 Yeah.

02:06:25.000 So, goal, like this year, I really want to size up like crazy.

02:06:29.000 So you guys are going to be seeing some crazy trades from me.

02:06:31.000 You can find me on YouTube.

02:06:31.000 I'll recap all the trades on there.

02:06:33.000 I post tons of free stuff.

02:06:34.000 I always say like this.

02:06:35.000 I post all the information in the world.

02:06:37.000 Everything you need for free.

02:06:38.000 I don't sell information.

02:06:39.000 I sell implementation, right?

02:06:41.000 Sheesh! 0.96

02:06:41.000 I don't give a fuck. 0.96

02:06:42.000 I put it all out there, right?

02:06:43.000 So if you want to follow me on YouTube, follow me on YouTube.

02:06:45.000 I'll post trade recaps.

02:06:47.000 I might go live every once in a while.

02:06:49.000 This year, I got some really crazy things coming.

02:06:51.000 Some software coming.

02:06:52.000 What's your YouTube, by the way?

02:06:54.000 CasperSMC.

02:06:55.000 Okay.

02:06:56.000 Yeah.

02:06:56.000 Casper SMC. Guys, go check them out.

02:06:58.000 Very interesting story, man.

02:07:00.000 We'll be back, guys, with some girls.

02:07:01.000 We're probably going to start...

02:07:02.000 I think Chris just walked in like 1045. We got one more chat here as well.

02:07:07.000 One more chat.

02:07:08.000 Let's see.

02:07:08.000 Oh, there's Playboy.

02:07:09.000 That's Bitcoin Playbit.

02:07:10.000 Bitcoin Playbit.

02:07:11.000 It's one of those people.

02:07:11.000 Okay.

02:07:12.000 We got...

02:07:12.000 It says...

02:07:15.000 Unbank COO here, baby. 0.99

02:07:17.000 Casper, let me know about the origin of Playbit on Stream Raid.

02:07:20.000 Brother has come a long-ass way.

02:07:21.000 Proud of you, man.

02:07:22.000 Yeah, man.

02:07:23.000 Yeah, he probably wasn't here, but I was talking about everything whenever I first came in.

02:07:27.000 I remember I found him on Cali Plug.

02:07:29.000 I was messaging this dude.

02:07:30.000 He was literally helping me one-on-one.

02:07:31.000 I was paying like $125.

02:07:33.000 It's crazy.

02:07:34.000 Helped me all the way from there, bro, to being a coach in there, calling out Trades Live, all the way to here.

02:07:40.000 It's fucking crazy, bro.

02:07:41.000 Like, insane.

02:07:42.000 And I remember he even had my back because, like, whenever the person trying to make a hit piece or whatever, trying to, you know, push it out, he was like, yo, like, this is all bullshit.

02:07:49.000 Like, you know, you could say whatever you want about my past, but, like, I definitely was a traitor years before I was a YouTuber.

02:07:54.000 I definitely did have a truck income.

02:07:56.000 They tried to say, like, I made up all this shit.

02:07:57.000 It's like, motherfucker.

02:07:58.000 But wait, that's why I made a documentary.

02:07:59.000 That's the funny thing is because these people wanted to, like, attack me.

02:08:03.000 But now it's like, now you're going to look real fucking stupid.

02:08:05.000 And there's some stuff coming out that people don't know about that person.

02:08:08.000 So there's a lot of shit coming out.

02:08:10.000 You know what I mean?

02:08:10.000 But that's the thing.

02:08:11.000 And I'm glad that all that shit happened because now I'm on here talking about it.

02:08:15.000 I'm going to put out my documentary.

02:08:17.000 Everything's documented.

02:08:18.000 Bro, it's crazy going back through all my old iClouds, old everything, putting together all this shit, bro.

02:08:23.000 Because I document everything.

02:08:25.000 I have pictures, DoorDash, and I have pictures, $60 P&Ls, bro.

02:08:29.000 I remember everything.

02:08:30.000 It's crazy.

02:08:32.000 Yeah, man.

02:08:33.000 You made it up, man.

02:08:34.000 Thank God, bro.

02:08:34.000 No excuses.

02:08:36.000 Guys, we'll be back for After Hours around 1045. So, guys, go check them out.

02:08:41.000 Links are below.

02:08:42.000 Peace.

Fresh & Fit - December 30, 2024

How Casper SMC Went From Drug Kingpin to Millionaire Trader

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