Fresh & Fit - How To Make OVER $100K-yr Without A Degree w- DL Saint

00:21:51.000 And we are live.

00:21:51.000 What's up, guys?

00:21:52.000 Welcome to today's show.

00:21:53.000 Money Monday, man.

00:21:54.000 We're here with DLSA. We're going to be talking about how to make $100,000 a year without a college degree.

00:21:57.000 Guys, listen up.

00:21:58.000 Get your pen and paper ready.

00:21:59.000 Let's get into it.

00:21:59.000 Let's go!

00:22:48.000 And we're back.

00:22:49.000 And we're back.

00:22:50.000 What's up, guys?

00:22:50.000 Welcome to Freshly Podcast, man.

00:22:51.000 It is Money Monday.

00:22:52.000 We're here with Diaz Saint, man.

00:22:53.000 We've been talking about this for a while.

00:22:54.000 As you guys know, with these Money Monday shows, we've been trying to make it more inclusive.

00:23:00.000 And what I mean by that is helping guys out that might not necessarily have a bunch of money yet to help them get into the six-figure range, etc.

00:23:06.000 Bringing our guys in the trucking world, bringing our guys...

00:23:08.000 Like Red Pill Thor, Jay, now we got a deal.

00:23:11.000 Satan here, teach you guys how to make some money with trades, man.

00:23:14.000 Because, you know, not everyone's cut out to be an entrepreneur.

00:23:16.000 Not everyone's cut out to be- Vince's owner.

00:23:18.000 You know, an influencer or a real estate investor or whatever it may be.

00:23:23.000 And there's nothing wrong with having a job.

00:23:24.000 I've said this to you guys many times.

00:23:25.000 There's nothing wrong with having a job, making that money.

00:23:27.000 And then if you want to start some entrepreneurial venture on the side or you just want to get right into investing with your earned income, that's totally cool.

00:23:33.000 And we're going to give you guys a tool set to do that so you guys can go ahead and build yourself A career and make money, even without a college degree.

00:23:39.000 And a lot of you don't know what you want to do in life.

00:23:40.000 So with purpose, having these options on a table can help you choose what you want to do moving forward.

00:23:44.000 So it's a pretty good option, especially with aviation today and air traffic controlling.

00:23:48.000 Yeah.

00:23:48.000 So quick announcement against the show, guys.

00:23:51.000 Rumble.com slash FreshFit.

00:23:52.000 Check us out over there.

00:23:53.000 As you guys know, that is the home base for us.

00:23:55.000 Also, CassClub.tv, guys.

00:23:56.000 We're almost 7,000 strong over there.

00:23:58.000 We want to hit 10,000.

00:23:59.000 That is the goal.

00:24:00.000 Build up a huge audience. 0.96

00:24:01.000 Over there so that we can be 100% independent and not to worry about none of the BS, as you guys know, because censorship sucks.

00:24:07.000 And like I said, I'm not relying on YouTube monetization.

00:24:10.000 We'll reapply.

00:24:11.000 We'll see if we can get it.

00:24:12.000 But if we don't, it is what it is, right?

00:24:14.000 It's always a toss-up.

00:24:19.000 What else?

00:24:19.000 Yeah, Castle Club.

00:24:20.000 And then, guys, yacht party.

00:24:21.000 August 10th.

00:24:22.000 Okay, we're going to be having a huge yacht party.

00:24:23.000 Do we got pictures of it yet, or you guys didn't see it yet?

00:24:25.000 Not as yet.

00:24:26.000 When are you guys going to see it?

00:24:26.000 In a month.

00:24:27.000 It's not finished yet.

00:24:28.000 Oh, yeah.

00:24:28.000 The boat's being built as we speak.

00:24:30.000 Okay, yeah.

00:24:31.000 Guys, boat is being built right now as we speak.

00:24:32.000 July 28th, I think it's going to be officially ready for people to use.

00:24:35.000 And then we'll get pictures for you guys.

00:24:37.000 But what?

00:24:38.000 It's overall.

00:24:38.000 Tell them about the boat real quick.

00:24:39.000 It's over 120 feet.

00:24:42.000 It has three layers, three levels.

00:24:44.000 Top, deck, jacuzzi, then middle floor, and then bottom where we party all the time, you know, VIP or whatever.

00:24:50.000 And second and bottom floor are enclosed?

00:24:53.000 Yes, and we're going to have as well a maximum of 350 people on the boat.

00:24:58.000 Yeah, 350 seats, guys.

00:24:59.000 For a yacht, that's pretty big, man.

00:25:00.000 That's huge.

00:25:01.000 That's huge, man.

00:25:02.000 If you try to get a yacht in Miami, you're going to get a captain and you can't put 13 people on.

00:25:07.000 Yeah, that's max.

00:25:08.000 So we were able to pull off $120 last time, but we're going to do $350 this time.

00:25:12.000 So tickets are limited, guys.

00:25:13.000 And with the higher seat count, we're able to tell it to you guys at a cheaper price.

00:25:17.000 So it's only going to be $998.

00:25:18.000 And you guys won't even be able to find a yacht for that price point with 13 people and a captain.

00:25:23.000 And you're going to have to find your own girls. 1.00

00:25:25.000 We're going to give you guys open bar, free food, and we're going to have a bunch of girls that are hot girls, too. 1.00

00:25:29.000 Last time we had to turn away 120-plus girls when we We had our yacht party because we didn't have enough space. 1.00

00:25:34.000 This time, we'll be able to bring all those girls. 0.99

00:25:35.000 It's going to be a good-ass time.

00:25:36.000 And we have left right now, only three VAP left.

00:25:38.000 So that's it for the VAP, and then it's done.

00:25:40.000 Yep.

00:25:40.000 So, yeah, man.

00:25:42.000 So, guys, go check us out over there, man.

00:25:43.000 It's ffpod.org to go ahead and get those yacht tickets and join us there, man.

00:25:48.000 We hope to see you guys there.

00:25:49.000 But without further ado...

00:25:50.000 Without further ado, we got...

00:25:51.000 Without further ado, we got D.L. St.

00:25:52.000 in the house.

00:25:54.000 What's good, everybody?

00:25:55.000 What's good?

00:25:56.000 Thanks for having me.

00:25:58.000 Listen, this is a long time coming because we know Dale Stanton from back in the day.

00:26:01.000 He was supporting us all the way.

00:26:03.000 And he was the guy that would come through, show love, show support.

00:26:07.000 And even when he had work going on, he would put time towards helping us move forward.

00:26:11.000 Thank you for coming, brother.

00:26:12.000 Man, thanks for having me, brother.

00:26:14.000 You know I love to be here, man.

00:26:15.000 This is...

00:26:16.000 So good to see.

00:26:17.000 And for you guys out here watching, if you're ever getting to this studio, if you're ever lucky enough to get into this seat, if you want to see how ugly you are, sit down where I'm sitting right now.

00:26:26.000 Bro, the camera's looking at myself right there.

00:26:28.000 You got the best cameras in the world. 0.98

00:26:29.000 I'm like, damn, I'm old. 0.98

00:26:32.000 But no, thanks for having me in here, bro. 0.97

00:26:33.000 I remember we go back to right before 100,000.

00:26:36.000 I remember the first party.

00:26:38.000 I don't want to get y'all PTSD, but...

00:26:40.000 It's fine.

00:26:41.000 Tell them about it.

00:26:42.000 Oh, man, they had us at this...

00:26:45.000 Jacked up place, man.

00:26:46.000 I'm teaming YouTube friendly.

00:26:47.000 If this was Rumble, I'll let y'all know how I really feel, bro.

00:26:50.000 They had us up in the hood, man.

00:26:52.000 Couldn't even bring my pistol, man.

00:26:54.000 But y'all let organic bring his.

00:26:55.000 I was like, aw, man.

00:26:58.000 It's forget it, man.

00:26:58.000 It's forget it.

00:26:59.000 Yeah, man, but it was what it was, but it showed me the character that you two have, the intestinal fortitude, being able to push through problems because it was a problem.

00:27:10.000 You went trusting some people.

00:27:11.000 They messed it up, right?

00:27:13.000 Trusting some guys.

00:27:14.000 They didn't pull through like they were supposed to, but what did we do?

00:27:16.000 We were like, hey.

00:27:17.000 Let's take it out of here.

00:27:18.000 First thing y'all did was y'all pay for the bar.

00:27:20.000 Open bar.

00:27:21.000 First thing y'all did.

00:27:22.000 Like, alright, this ain't right.

00:27:23.000 Nobody else has to pay for drinks.

00:27:24.000 We bought the bar out.

00:27:26.000 And then we moved the party over here to Brooklyn.

00:27:28.000 Went over to Blackbird.

00:27:30.000 And I was lucky enough to buy the first bottle that night.

00:27:32.000 I was like, I'm going to get the bottle.

00:27:34.000 And they posted this up at the stage.

00:27:37.000 Because, I don't know if y'all remember this, but they had us adjacent to the stage.

00:27:41.000 But the people who had the table, the nice table, they knew y'all.

00:27:44.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:27:45.000 They knew y'all.

00:27:46.000 And they were like, we're leaving.

00:27:47.000 Just take our spot.

00:27:48.000 So we moved in there.

00:27:49.000 We had the big table.

00:27:50.000 Two hours later, man, we had the whole front of the stage.

00:27:52.000 Yep.

00:27:53.000 You know what I mean?

00:27:54.000 Organic was posted up doing this Gorgow thing.

00:27:56.000 How you say it?

00:27:57.000 Gargoyle.

00:27:58.000 He's doing his Gargoyle thing.

00:27:59.000 You know what I mean?

00:27:59.000 I remember that day, bro.

00:28:01.000 Remember the girls that came with us?

00:28:04.000 I do.

00:28:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:28:06.000 I do.

00:28:07.000 That was a funny night.

00:28:08.000 That was a good night.

00:28:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:28:10.000 So we set up, and it was funny because we closed it down.

00:28:13.000 We closed it down.

00:28:15.000 Like I said, I was lucky enough to buy the first bottle.

00:28:17.000 Next thing I know, it was like, I don't know, we had four, five, six bottles.

00:28:19.000 People were buying bottles, getting their money up.

00:28:21.000 You know what I mean?

00:28:22.000 All out of respect and love.

00:28:23.000 This was a $100,000 party, right?

00:28:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:28:25.000 And I remember that night I was leaving, headed back to my hotel, this one.

00:28:29.000 Don't be, what did you say?

00:28:30.000 Don't be paying for no box.

00:28:33.000 Keep it real.

00:28:34.000 Don't be paying for it.

00:28:35.000 I'm like, I ain't got no more trick money.

00:28:36.000 All my trick money in Blackbird.

00:28:38.000 I just went home and went to sleep.

00:28:40.000 But those were the good old days, man.

00:28:43.000 At the beginning of the podcast, working things out, making mistakes.

00:28:46.000 I mean, even up to today.

00:28:48.000 But now we got it packed with y'all parties and stuff like that.

00:28:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:28:52.000 Now we've figured out that you've got to do the party 100% by yourself.

00:28:58.000 But the point was, y'all made it right.

00:29:00.000 No matter what.

00:29:01.000 The One Million Party, y'all made it right. 0.98

00:29:03.000 Remember, that was the first yacht.

00:29:05.000 But you had it all set up.

00:29:07.000 You was going to be in a tri-level penthouse.

00:29:09.000 It was fire.

00:29:10.000 It was supposed to be at the Paramount, for those who are wondering.

00:29:12.000 Guys, we actually had the Paramount locked in.

00:29:15.000 But then we had some haters, showed their colors.

00:29:18.000 And what happened?

00:29:19.000 Y'all had to make it right.

00:29:20.000 Y'all didn't complain?

00:29:21.000 They called, and they complained, and they said, yo, did you know that this, like, misogynistic podcast is gonna throw a party?

00:29:25.000 And they got scared, and they canceled it on us.

00:29:27.000 I remember that.

00:29:27.000 Shut it down.

00:29:28.000 So you had to go get that boat.

00:29:30.000 The good thing is, now I know all the owners, so we're good to go.

00:29:33.000 That boat costs us.

00:29:34.000 Cap it again, though.

00:29:35.000 That one million party costs us $75,000, man, to get the boat.

00:29:39.000 Minimum.

00:29:40.000 Bro.

00:29:41.000 And guess what?

00:29:42.000 Guess what, guys?

00:29:43.000 On the boat.

00:29:44.000 Open bar, food, everything.

00:29:47.000 I know for a fact, I ain't telling on nobody, but I know mad dudes got on that boat that didn't pay for tickets that night.

00:29:52.000 I already know.

00:29:53.000 I already know.

00:29:54.000 But here's the deal.

00:29:55.000 Here's the deal.

00:29:56.000 Y'all made it right.

00:29:57.000 Yeah.

00:29:57.000 Right?

00:29:58.000 So all the people out there saying these guys are trying to scam you or whatever, these dudes are flim flam men, you know, scam artists or whatever, they're doing a bad job of it.

00:30:06.000 I'm just telling you.

00:30:07.000 They scamming y'all for money.

00:30:08.000 The last one, a bunch of guys couldn't get on a yacht and we refunded all of them immediately.

00:30:12.000 And took them out.

00:30:13.000 The night after.

00:30:14.000 And took them out.

00:30:15.000 If y'all go out with this man right here, it's really a movie, bro.

00:30:18.000 It really is a movie, man.

00:30:20.000 Like, y'all see this podcast.

00:30:21.000 This is Myron Fresh.

00:30:23.000 You know what I mean?

00:30:23.000 We got big more bills.

00:30:24.000 This is the Fresher Fit fam.

00:30:26.000 This is on camera.

00:30:28.000 We're doing our thing on camera.

00:30:29.000 Y'all don't know what it's like in the real world.

00:30:31.000 These guys will make it right.

00:30:32.000 You go out with these dudes, they'll make it right.

00:30:33.000 This guy got people.

00:30:34.000 This is my nephew, y'all.

00:30:35.000 If y'all don't know.

00:30:36.000 Uncle the building.

00:30:38.000 My uncle, man.

00:30:38.000 He said, we wear a kimono.

00:30:40.000 He was like, I was joking.

00:30:41.000 Like, oh yeah, I'm fresh as uncle.

00:30:43.000 Ever since then, I get in for free whenever I go to kimono.

00:30:46.000 I'll be like trying out at Vendome and be working like, oh, I'm fresh as uncle.

00:30:50.000 Bro, everyone's like, yo, I know Fresh.

00:30:52.000 I'm like, nigga, I don't know you.

00:30:53.000 Right. 0.88

00:30:53.000 I know him. 0.88

00:30:54.000 I don't know you.

00:30:55.000 But shout out to y'all, man.

00:30:57.000 It's been really good watching y'all grow.

00:31:01.000 We like to talk about the good things.

00:31:03.000 Yeah, it's been some bad times too, y'all.

00:31:04.000 We don't turn our face on that.

00:31:06.000 We know it.

00:31:07.000 This one.

00:31:08.000 We know it.

00:31:09.000 You know what I mean?

00:31:10.000 But you know what, though?

00:31:11.000 I heard this from one of your haters.

00:31:12.000 That was somebody I bumped into in Tampa.

00:31:16.000 They're like, yeah, you know, I don't really like the Freshly Fit podcast that much, but I'll tell you this.

00:31:20.000 That guy, Myron, at least he's consistent.

00:31:23.000 There you go.

00:31:24.000 At least he's consistent.

00:31:26.000 I'll take that.

00:31:27.000 Okay.

00:31:28.000 Yeah, no, man.

00:31:29.000 Thank you, Saint.

00:31:30.000 Yeah, Saint's been with us for a very long time, guys.

00:31:32.000 One Million Party was a movie. 1.00

00:31:34.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:31:35.000 Shout out to the team and DL Saint-Diog. 1.00

00:31:38.000 Shout out to Dr. 0.80

00:31:39.000 B84. That's one of our guys in the community as well, man.

00:31:41.000 He's a real doctor.

00:31:42.000 Helped us out with a bunch of stuff, whether it was, you know...

00:31:45.000 It's funny.

00:31:46.000 I was eating dinner with my mom, and someone who showed up being named, and he was eating right next to me.

00:31:52.000 Oh, really?

00:31:52.000 Yeah, Dr.

00:31:52.000 B84. Your favorite person.

00:31:54.000 Akimoto, by the way.

00:31:55.000 Yeah.

00:31:56.000 So, shout out to him for helping us out with that whole saga, with the whole fake pregnancy, and then also helping one of our guys in the community as well.

00:32:04.000 Yeah.

00:32:05.000 Finding a doctor.

00:32:06.000 But say, so we obviously know who you are, but can you introduce yourself to the people, a little bit about your personal background, where you're from?

00:32:15.000 I'm D.L. Saint, and D.L. stands for my real name, and I'll let y'all find out.

00:32:19.000 I'll let you internet, you know, hunsters out there. 1.00

00:32:21.000 Y'all find out what it is.

00:32:22.000 It's no secret.

00:32:23.000 Just give y'all something to do, but...

00:32:26.000 Yeah, I'm a retired air traffic controller.

00:32:29.000 I worked for the Federal Aviation Administration.

00:32:31.000 I did about 25 years.

00:32:34.000 Before that, I was in the military.

00:32:39.000 So, I'm from Cincinnati, Ohio, originally.

00:32:41.000 I grew up the way we grew up.

00:32:43.000 You know what I mean?

00:32:44.000 On the other side of the tracks, it is what it was.

00:32:46.000 And I ain't gonna lie to you, bro.

00:32:49.000 Like, it was...

00:32:51.000 That world and the world I retired from are two completely different dimensions.

00:32:57.000 Coming up in the streets, doing that kind of stuff, and then finding your way and ending up in a place where you're making well over six figures.

00:33:06.000 You have a career with a high school education.

00:33:09.000 I didn't have to go to college.

00:33:10.000 I got some college, but I didn't need it.

00:33:13.000 It just blew my mind.

00:33:15.000 A lot of times, even sitting here today, the stuff that I do today, it's like, how did I get here?

00:33:19.000 I wasn't supposed to make it out the hood.

00:33:21.000 Just keeping it 100.

00:33:23.000 Myron was a federal investigator at some point.

00:33:26.000 Maybe I was on the other side of that.

00:33:28.000 I don't know.

00:33:29.000 Maybe.

00:33:30.000 Maybe.

00:33:32.000 But to get this far, it was just amazing.

00:33:36.000 How did I get here?

00:33:37.000 I got here through networking and seizing an opportunity when it was given to me.

00:33:41.000 So a lot of people, especially people of color, the real ones, they just want an opportunity. 0.92

00:33:45.000 They don't want a job because they're black or because they're this or because they're that.

00:33:49.000 Just give me an opportunity. 0.99

00:33:50.000 Give me the same shot you gave dude.

00:33:52.000 And let me see what I can do with it.

00:33:54.000 And that's what happened.

00:33:56.000 So I joined the United States military when I got out of high school.

00:34:00.000 1990, guys.

00:34:01.000 I'm old.

00:34:01.000 Told y'all I'm old.

00:34:02.000 Can you tell people how old you are just so they...

00:34:04.000 I'm 53 years old. 1.00

00:34:06.000 Damn. 0.99

00:34:07.000 53 years old. 1.00

00:34:09.000 That nigga old. 1.00

00:34:09.000 Damn. 1.00

00:34:10.000 Damn. 1.00

00:34:11.000 So yeah, I done probably rock some of y'all mamas and aunties. 0.99

00:34:14.000 You know what I mean?

00:34:14.000 It's what it is.

00:34:16.000 Since I've been, if your mama come running in and look at the TV real quick, don't worry about it. 0.99

00:34:21.000 Don't worry about it.

00:34:23.000 So, I enlisted in the United States Army during wartime.

00:34:28.000 Desert Storm was going on.

00:34:30.000 You know, for you young people, it was a war.

00:34:31.000 You enlisted in 1990?

00:34:32.000 You said, okay.

00:34:33.000 So, I enlisted during wartime.

00:34:36.000 So, I enlisted to be a paratrooper.

00:34:38.000 When I enlisted in the United States Army, I knew I wanted to jump out of airplanes.

00:34:41.000 That's all I wanted to do.

00:34:42.000 I thought that was a job.

00:34:44.000 Like, oh, what do you want to do?

00:34:45.000 I want to be airborne.

00:34:46.000 I want to be the guy with the maroon beret and jump boots.

00:34:49.000 And the recruiter was like, okay, but what job do you want?

00:34:51.000 I'm like, I thought that was a job. 0.91

00:34:53.000 You know, it sounds like a job to me to jump out of airplanes, go shoot people.

00:34:56.000 He was like, no, no, you get to have a job.

00:34:57.000 So I didn't know what to do.

00:34:59.000 This is why I tell people, remember we were talking to that young guy who wanted to be the best model or whatever.

00:35:03.000 I was telling him, you got to learn that world.

00:35:04.000 You got to know what it is.

00:35:05.000 I didn't know.

00:35:06.000 So I'm sitting at the table.

00:35:08.000 And I had a really high score.

00:35:10.000 So when you go in the Army, you have to take what was called an ASVAB test.

00:35:12.000 I don't know if they still have it.

00:35:13.000 I think they still do.

00:35:14.000 They lowered it, though, if I'm not mistaken, to get more people in.

00:35:16.000 Yeah.

00:35:17.000 So back then, they didn't.

00:35:18.000 It's mostly a competency test, guys.

00:35:20.000 Yeah, it's the Armed Forces Vocational Aptitude Battery.

00:35:24.000 I think that's what it stands for.

00:35:25.000 Yeah, Armed Services.

00:35:26.000 Vocational Aptitude Battery.

00:35:27.000 So everyone has to take that test.

00:35:29.000 Based on how you score on that test, they offer certain jobs to you.

00:35:32.000 I had a pretty good score.

00:35:34.000 I went to a public school. 0.83

00:35:35.000 I was a knucklehead, but I was the knucklehead who knew stuff, right? 0.67

00:35:39.000 I watched documentaries and stuff like that. 0.62

00:35:41.000 So I knew enough to get through school, but I didn't really apply myself, right?

00:35:45.000 Yeah.

00:35:45.000 But I scored well in this test.

00:35:47.000 So I'm ready to get up from the recruiter's office like, ah, man, I don't know.

00:35:50.000 I'm looking around, looking at the pictures.

00:35:52.000 You see the guys with their M16s and they're out, you know, they're like in the Blackhawk and, you know, they got the faces painted and they're smiling.

00:35:59.000 It looks cool.

00:36:00.000 It looks cool, and I'm about to ask him, like, maybe I'll do that, like 11 Bravo.

00:36:04.000 Like, that's infantry.

00:36:05.000 But before I could get it out of my mouth, the recruiter was like, hey, do you want to be an air traffic controller?

00:36:11.000 I'm like, yo, the Army has that?

00:36:13.000 And he's like, yeah, he's going through his book?

00:36:14.000 Yeah, I guess they do.

00:36:15.000 I'm like, the guys in the tower talking to airplanes?

00:36:17.000 He's like, yeah.

00:36:20.000 Can I be airborne?

00:36:21.000 He's like, yes, you can be airborne.

00:36:23.000 I want to do that.

00:36:25.000 That changed my life.

00:36:27.000 Wow.

00:36:27.000 That afternoon.

00:36:28.000 In 1990.

00:36:30.000 In a recruiter's office.

00:36:31.000 You're what, 18 years old at this point?

00:36:32.000 19?

00:36:33.000 18.

00:36:33.000 You were 18.

00:36:34.000 Okay.

00:36:35.000 Wow.

00:36:36.000 That moment.

00:36:37.000 You didn't even know what it was.

00:36:38.000 I knew what an air traffic controller was.

00:36:40.000 I mean, again, I was the kid who watched documentaries.

00:36:43.000 So where everybody else was out in the streets, I didn't get into the streets until I was like...

00:36:48.000 15.

00:36:48.000 14, 15 is when I started getting in the streets.

00:36:50.000 Before that, I'm watching PBS. I'm watching, like, all the educational programming.

00:36:55.000 You know, I'm listening to old people, so I knew what an air traffic controller was.

00:36:59.000 Back in the 80s, the air traffic controllers went on strike, and Ronald Reagan fired them.

00:37:04.000 And I remember that.

00:37:06.000 Okay.

00:37:06.000 That was a big thing.

00:37:07.000 So I was like, I knew what an air traffic controller was.

00:37:09.000 I didn't know exactly what they did, but I know they're in towers, and I know they talk to airplanes.

00:37:14.000 That's all I really knew.

00:37:15.000 Right.

00:37:16.000 Come to find out, it is a really good career.

00:37:19.000 I didn't know.

00:37:20.000 Yeah, it is.

00:37:21.000 So again, United States Army, I'm a paratrooper.

00:37:23.000 Now, for those of you guys out there who want to take that route, you want to join the Army, Navy, Air Force.

00:37:28.000 Can you also tell them what a paratrooper is too?

00:37:30.000 Paratrooper are those guys who jump out of airplanes.

00:37:33.000 Think Band of Brothers.

00:37:34.000 Think of that TV show Band of Brothers, the 101st Airborne Division, the 82nd Airborne Division.

00:37:40.000 They're paratroopers.

00:37:41.000 There's a YouTuber out there called the Fat Electrician.

00:37:43.000 He does some really good breakdowns on who airborne are, who the SEALs are, who the Rangers are, all that stuff.

00:37:48.000 I work with those guys.

00:37:49.000 Didn't work with too many SEALs, but I worked with a lot of Green Berets, a lot of Rangers, and other stuff like that.

00:37:52.000 So because I was airborne, because I wanted to be a paratrooper, I knew I was going to go to Fort Bragg.

00:37:59.000 I mean, they call it Fort Liberty now, but it's always going to be Fort Bragg to me.

00:38:03.000 I'm sorry.

00:38:03.000 That's where I serve.

00:38:04.000 In North Carolina.

00:38:05.000 Okay.

00:38:06.000 All right.

00:38:06.000 So...

00:38:08.000 The way it works in the United States military, especially the Army, when you enlist for something, the Army will guarantee your training.

00:38:13.000 It's in the contract.

00:38:15.000 You sign a contract with the Army.

00:38:16.000 This is what you're going to do.

00:38:18.000 Everything is contingent upon you completing your training.

00:38:21.000 So you've got to finish basic training.

00:38:22.000 You've got to finish advanced training, which is your job or whatever.

00:38:25.000 Then I had to go to airborne school.

00:38:26.000 I had to finish that.

00:38:27.000 So everything was guaranteed.

00:38:29.000 If I failed anywhere along the lines, they can put you anywhere.

00:38:33.000 They can put you anywhere.

00:38:34.000 So you fail out of air traffic control school, they can make you a cook.

00:38:38.000 Put you in infantry.

00:38:39.000 Infantry.

00:38:40.000 Door gunner.

00:38:40.000 It was wartime.

00:38:41.000 So that was like the running gag.

00:38:42.000 I went to Fort Rucker, Alabama for ATC school, air traffic control school.

00:38:47.000 And there's also door gunner school there.

00:38:50.000 That's like the home of aviation, for Army aviation in Fort Rucker, Alabama.

00:38:53.000 And they would always say, yeah, if you watch out, we're going to send you to door gunner school, and we're going to send you right over to the desert, because the war was starting.

00:38:59.000 Oh, hell no.

00:39:00.000 They said that's what they did in Vietnam.

00:39:01.000 You watched out of this, you wind up being a door gunner.

00:39:03.000 Can you tell people real quick what a door gunner is?

00:39:05.000 A door gunner, those guys, they're in the door of an aircraft, more likely a helicopter, a Chinook or a Blackhawk, and you are manning a gun, like a machine gun or maybe a minigun, but you are hanging out of the door shooting at stuff while they are shooting back at you.

00:39:23.000 And I don't know if you've ever touched a helicopter, but they are very, very thin.

00:39:26.000 You throw a rock hard enough, it'll go through the skin of a helicopter, it seems, sometimes.

00:39:30.000 In the movies, the bullets bounce off.

00:39:32.000 Nah, nah, they go right through the helicopter.

00:39:34.000 Wow.

00:39:35.000 They go right through the helicopter.

00:39:36.000 That's what killed Kobe.

00:39:36.000 I'll never get on a helicopter after that.

00:39:39.000 Okay.

00:39:40.000 I need you to put a pin in that.

00:39:41.000 Mo, don't let us forget, but at the end of the show, when the cameras go off, I was working that day. 1.00

00:39:46.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

00:39:47.000 Okay. 1.00

00:39:47.000 I was working that day. 1.00

00:39:49.000 Okay, we can definitely talk about that.

00:39:51.000 Oh, you don't want to talk about it?

00:39:52.000 I mean...

00:39:53.000 Stick to the end and just...

00:39:55.000 Yeah, stick to the end.

00:39:56.000 We might get back to it.

00:39:57.000 We might have to do that on Rumble. 0.58

00:39:59.000 That might be a Rumble exclusive.

00:40:00.000 Oh, really?

00:40:00.000 Okay, all right, all right.

00:40:01.000 Because obviously, as an air traffic controller, you guys run helicopters, too.

00:40:07.000 I was working that day, and we'll talk about it on Rumble.

00:40:11.000 Y'all stick around if y'all wanna hear the soft sauce.

00:40:13.000 Y'all stick around.

00:40:15.000 So you were talking about what a door gunner is, and then you were talking about washing out, and then you were in Forbrag.

00:40:22.000 Right.

00:40:22.000 So I made it through everything, and I just wanted to make that clarification.

00:40:26.000 If you're going to enlist in the United States military, I suggest the Army, because that's the only branch at the time, and I think it's still true today, that will guarantee training.

00:40:35.000 You join the Marine Corps, they put you where they want to push you.

00:40:37.000 You join the Air Force, same thing.

00:40:38.000 Navy, same thing.

00:40:39.000 I think.

00:40:40.000 Anybody out there in the chat can set me straight.

00:40:42.000 It's been a long time since I've been in the military, but at the time, the Army was the only branch that guaranteed training.

00:40:47.000 Okay.

00:40:47.000 So I was guaranteed Air Traffic Control School, so long as I didn't watch out or nothing.

00:40:50.000 I didn't fail nothing.

00:40:51.000 And I didn't.

00:40:52.000 I got it.

00:40:52.000 It was close.

00:40:53.000 It was close.

00:40:54.000 That was a tough school.

00:40:55.000 But I got through.

00:40:57.000 Went to Airborne School, Fort Benning, Georgia.

00:40:59.000 So you went to Air Traffic Control School first, then you went to the Paratrooper School.

00:41:03.000 Yep, then you go to Paratrooper School.

00:41:04.000 So you go to basic training first, learn how to be a soldier, learn how to fire your M-16, learn how to break your weapon down, whatever.

00:41:09.000 Then you go to your advanced training.

00:41:11.000 For me, it was Air Traffic Control.

00:41:12.000 Did all that.

00:41:13.000 And then you would go do any of the additional training, be it airborne, jumping out of airplanes, air assault.

00:41:19.000 It was like...

00:41:20.000 Repelling out of airplanes.

00:41:21.000 I said, you know, you got all these other kind of schools out there.

00:41:24.000 We'd be all day talking about these other schools.

00:41:25.000 So I got through that.

00:41:27.000 I got through airborne school.

00:41:28.000 I'm happy.

00:41:29.000 I'm a paratrooper.

00:41:30.000 That's what I joined for.

00:41:30.000 I'm jumping in.

00:41:31.000 I'm like, all right.

00:41:32.000 How long was your contract that you signed?

00:41:34.000 Four years?

00:41:34.000 Four years.

00:41:35.000 I did four years.

00:41:36.000 So I did all that within my first year.

00:41:40.000 Hmm.

00:41:41.000 So I get to Fort Bragg.

00:41:42.000 They let me go home.

00:41:44.000 Like, it was like around the holiday season, right after Christmas time, whatever.

00:41:46.000 I got to go home.

00:41:47.000 How old were you back then?

00:41:49.000 Only 18, 19.

00:41:50.000 Okay.

00:41:50.000 When all this started.

00:41:51.000 So I went home for a little bit, like a couple weeks, and then I went to Fort Bragg.

00:41:55.000 Got assigned to Fort Bragg.

00:41:56.000 So I get to Fort Bragg.

00:41:57.000 This is the home of the Airborne.

00:41:59.000 This is where, if you're in the Army and you're high speed, if you're one of those dudes, like, you know, real trigger pullers, right?

00:42:06.000 This is home of the Special Forces, the Green Berets.

00:42:09.000 This is home of Delta Force.

00:42:11.000 It doesn't exist.

00:42:12.000 Delta Force does not exist, but I can tell you where the compound is.

00:42:15.000 I know where they train.

00:42:19.000 They don't exist, though.

00:42:20.000 The worst kept secret on the planet, Delta Force.

00:42:23.000 You know, and you have all kind of other special ops.

00:42:26.000 Everything, tip of the spear, goes through Fort Bragg.

00:42:29.000 So Fort Bragg is part of, when I was in, it was called the Quick Reaction Force or Defense Ready Brigade.

00:42:34.000 They call it something else now.

00:42:36.000 But basically, the guys at Fort Bragg can be anywhere on the planet in 18 hours or less.

00:42:43.000 So, you know, I know you're a fan of Russia, but I'm not.

00:42:46.000 I trained to fight Russians. 1.00

00:42:47.000 Of course, of course. 0.99

00:42:47.000 Let Russia get too froggy and Putin will wake up one day and the sky will be full of the fucking 82nd Airborne Division just landing in his backyard. 0.99

00:42:55.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:42:55.000 Talking about talk that shit now, homie. 1.00

00:42:57.000 We here now. 1.00

00:42:59.000 So, same thing with the Middle East.

00:43:01.000 You know, why you think Egypt and Jordan and the rest of them are like...

00:43:04.000 Of course.

00:43:04.000 And just a quick side note...

00:43:07.000 When Jimmy Carter was president, and there was the Shah of Iran fail, right? 0.94

00:43:12.000 And they took American hostages, they took the embassy, you probably heard about this, like this is back in the 80s, right?

00:43:17.000 And there was a mission to get those guys out.

00:43:19.000 They authorized Delta Force to go in and get them out.

00:43:22.000 Reagan took all the credit for that.

00:43:23.000 Even though it was Jimmy Carter that negotiated everything, that's a little secret that no one talks about.

00:43:28.000 Jimmy Carter did all that.

00:43:29.000 Even though he was one of the worst presidents in American history, he did actually negotiate and get that whole deal going and then Ronald Reagan took all the credit, bro.

00:43:36.000 You know why Jimmy Carter did that?

00:43:37.000 Because he was Navy.

00:43:38.000 That was back in the day when our president served in the military.

00:43:41.000 He was Navy.

00:43:44.000 That mission went tits up.

00:43:46.000 There was a problem in the desert.

00:43:49.000 Some helicopters crashed.

00:43:51.000 The operators were lost.

00:43:52.000 They couldn't go accomplish the mission.

00:43:54.000 The mission went tits up.

00:43:55.000 The movie Argo was based on that, if I'm not mistaken.

00:43:58.000 With Ben Affleck, guys.

00:43:59.000 If you guys want to get a kind of like a...

00:44:01.000 He snuck so many people out.

00:44:03.000 Yeah.

00:44:04.000 The movie Argo is based on that.

00:44:06.000 Sorry.

00:44:06.000 So here's the thing.

00:44:07.000 With that mission that no one really talks about.

00:44:09.000 You guys can look this up.

00:44:10.000 I'm not lying to you. 0.99

00:44:12.000 Part of that mission was Delta was going to go in, they were going to get into the embassy, do the shit that they do, Kill the bad guys, get all the good guys, put them on a bus. 0.99

00:44:21.000 Now you gotta get them out the country, right? 1.00

00:44:23.000 Yeah.

00:44:23.000 So you gotta take them to some airport somewhere, right?

00:44:26.000 Well, someone had to go get that airport and secure it.

00:44:29.000 Yeah.

00:44:29.000 United States Rangers.

00:44:31.000 Yeah.

00:44:31.000 The Rangers had already taken the airport before this mission went tits up.

00:44:37.000 So the Rangers had invaded Iran, taken the airport, and was waiting for Delta to bring the people back so they can get the hell out of there.

00:44:45.000 Of course.

00:44:46.000 They had, you know, it was some bang-bang going on with the Iranians, you know, and they secured the airport. 1.00

00:44:51.000 They allegedly took a busload of people.

00:44:54.000 They were just like, what do we do with these people?

00:44:56.000 Like, oh, I guess we keep them here for now.

00:44:59.000 We'll let them go when the mission's over.

00:45:00.000 Then they get word, screw up the mission.

00:45:03.000 Get out of there.

00:45:03.000 So they took the people allegedly with them and they left.

00:45:08.000 We went in there, took the airport, did some bang-bang, had some Iranians, took them with us. 1.00

00:45:13.000 Go look that up, guys.

00:45:14.000 I think I'm lying.

00:45:15.000 Go look that up.

00:45:16.000 So a lot of people, when we talk about America and I get excited about our military, I got to work with these dudes.

00:45:21.000 I was walking around with these guys.

00:45:23.000 These guys go anytime, anywhere.

00:45:25.000 They'll go get it done.

00:45:26.000 So, yeah, I love the military.

00:45:29.000 I love my part in it.

00:45:30.000 So I just wanted to do a little side note on that.

00:45:31.000 But I got to Fort Bragg.

00:45:33.000 We get to Fort Bragg, you got to go, any unit, you got to go to what they call a replacement company.

00:45:37.000 A bunch of people get there, kind of like our waiting room for the city groups.

00:45:41.000 Make sure you guys...

00:45:42.000 Castle Club, man.

00:45:42.000 Castle Club in there, man.

00:45:44.000 It's like replacement.

00:45:45.000 So I'm standing there in replacement.

00:45:47.000 We're in the formation.

00:45:47.000 It might have been, I don't know, 100 of us, right?

00:45:50.000 We knew the war was going on.

00:45:51.000 It hadn't started yet, but with the buildup, guys were going over.

00:45:54.000 So we're standing there, and they start calling out names.

00:45:57.000 They may have called, I don't know, 20 names out of this formation.

00:45:59.000 About 100, maybe 200 in formation.

00:46:01.000 They called out maybe 20 names, 30 names, whatever.

00:46:03.000 We call your name.

00:46:04.000 We want you to go fall out and stand over there.

00:46:06.000 My name is one of the names that got called.

00:46:07.000 I'm fall out.

00:46:08.000 I'm over there in a small, little small group of us over there standing there. 1.00

00:46:11.000 So we're thinking, we're like elbowing each other like, those fuckers going to war over there. 1.00

00:46:16.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:46:17.000 Because that's the big formation.

00:46:18.000 Like, they're going to war.

00:46:19.000 So we're like laughing, standing there like, ah, bye.

00:46:22.000 And so they turn to the big formation.

00:46:24.000 And they're like, all right.

00:46:26.000 When I tell you to fall out, go back to your barriers.

00:46:28.000 Go see so-and-so and so-and-so.

00:46:29.000 Go do this, that, and the other.

00:46:30.000 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:46:31.000 Fall out.

00:46:31.000 Then they turn around to us.

00:46:33.000 You lucky bastards, guess where you're going? 1.00

00:46:36.000 Damn. 1.00

00:46:38.000 You guys are going forward. 1.00

00:46:40.000 Your units are already over there and you're going to be joining your unit.

00:46:43.000 That's how the army say, yeah.

00:46:46.000 We're going to war. 0.85

00:46:50.000 It's just us.

00:46:52.000 Just us, like 20, 30 of us, whatever it was, just us.

00:46:55.000 We're going to go join our unit that's already in country.

00:46:58.000 So they gave us all of our shots.

00:47:00.000 They were breaking the rules.

00:47:01.000 It's supposed to take you a while to get all your shots and process out, but they got it all done ASAP. It's the only time in my life I ever passed out.

00:47:09.000 They gave me so many shots.

00:47:11.000 I passed out.

00:47:12.000 I woke up like 18 hours later.

00:47:16.000 And they were like, where you been?

00:47:17.000 You know, I was like, sleep?

00:47:20.000 They sent us back to fort.

00:47:23.000 Were you nervous?

00:47:24.000 I didn't get nervous until I got there.

00:47:27.000 I didn't get nervous until I got there.

00:47:29.000 I mean, I knew I always wanted to be a soldier, and soldiers fight.

00:47:31.000 And we went to war, so I didn't have to enlist.

00:47:35.000 And think about it.

00:47:37.000 I left at a time in the streets when things were getting really hot in the streets.

00:47:40.000 So I knew what I was doing.

00:47:43.000 And as it turns out, I was safer in a combat zone than I was back home.

00:47:47.000 I'm writing letters.

00:47:49.000 Yeah, we used to write letters, y'all. 0.97

00:47:50.000 We ain't had that email internet shit y'all got now. 0.90

00:47:52.000 Yeah, that's the early 90s. 0.96

00:47:54.000 We're writing letters.

00:47:55.000 I'm writing letters home.

00:47:56.000 I'm getting letters back home.

00:47:57.000 You know, so-and-so got popped.

00:47:59.000 This, you know, this person just got locked up.

00:48:01.000 This, this, you know what I mean?

00:48:02.000 And I'm over here like, so how are you doing?

00:48:03.000 I'm like, good.

00:48:04.000 You know what I mean?

00:48:05.000 You know, dodged a couple scuds, you know what I mean?

00:48:07.000 Some random spark fire here and there, but hey, we over here chilling.

00:48:12.000 Dusty.

00:48:12.000 Yeah, yeah, Dusty.

00:48:14.000 So that was it.

00:48:15.000 So where'd you end up going in your first duty location when you went?

00:48:21.000 Saudi Arabia.

00:48:22.000 So you touched on Saudi Arabia first.

00:48:24.000 They sent me straight to war.

00:48:25.000 Okay.

00:48:25.000 So we left Fort Benning.

00:48:27.000 They put us on a Northwest 747.

00:48:30.000 I'll never forget.

00:48:31.000 They chartered Northwest Airlines 747 jumbo jet.

00:48:35.000 It's full of all...

00:48:36.000 So you landed in Saudi Arabia because we don't have a base there.

00:48:39.000 King 5 Military Complex is where I landed.

00:48:41.000 KKMC. I landed King 5 Military Complex.

00:48:44.000 Do you have a base there now or no?

00:48:46.000 Because isn't that something that Sawyer always said we'll never let you have a military base?

00:48:50.000 Yeah, but we ran their stuff.

00:48:54.000 So it wasn't technically ours, but it was ours.

00:48:56.000 Because we were responsible for protecting them because that's the whole deal with the petrodollar.

00:49:00.000 So...

00:49:01.000 Yeah.

00:49:02.000 George Gammon has some thoughts on that.

00:49:03.000 We'll talk about that a little bit later.

00:49:05.000 So we landed King 5 Military Complex, and then from there, they will break you up into smaller groups, find out where your unit is.

00:49:13.000 My unit was just outside of RAFA. So we're in Riyadh or whatever, and my unit is just outside of Rafa.

00:49:21.000 The road that was called Tap Line Road, because it was this long-ass pipe that ran along this road in the middle of the desert.

00:49:26.000 Real quick, just so the audience knows, because we're assuming that they're going to know this.

00:49:30.000 What conflict are we talking about?

00:49:31.000 Who was at war?

00:49:32.000 What was the issue with it?

00:49:33.000 And can you just tell them the geopolitical background of that conflict?

00:49:36.000 It was Desert Storm.

00:49:38.000 It was the original.

00:49:40.000 It was the first in the trilogy.

00:49:42.000 And we had a trilogy now, right?

00:49:43.000 Yeah, pretty much.

00:49:44.000 It was the first.

00:49:45.000 It was Desert Storm.

00:49:47.000 So Saddam Hussein had a beef with Kuwait.

00:49:50.000 Saddam Hussein went in to take Kuwait. 0.51

00:49:53.000 Now, I haven't really researched it too much, but from what I understand, Saddam had a legitimate beef with Kuwait. 0.72

00:49:59.000 I mean, I don't think he was wrong for what he did.

00:50:02.000 But there's an agreement.

00:50:04.000 America has to protect a lot of countries over there.

00:50:07.000 Especially Saudi Arabia.

00:50:08.000 And that jeopardized Saudi Arabia's national security.

00:50:11.000 Yes.

00:50:12.000 They were afraid that Saddam... 0.87

00:50:13.000 And keep in mind at this time, Saddam's army was like the third biggest army.

00:50:18.000 They had like the largest armored force.

00:50:21.000 They were constantly fighting with Iran.

00:50:23.000 They had a lot of combat experience.

00:50:24.000 There were threats to Israel as well.

00:50:25.000 Yes.

00:50:26.000 And he had the Republican Guard.

00:50:27.000 So like these guys were combat hard and combat ready.

00:50:30.000 You know, like they knew what they were doing.

00:50:32.000 So when he took Kuwait, got all the oil and everything, and now Saudi's like, oh, this dude might come over and do something to us. 0.90

00:50:40.000 George H.W. Bush, the president.

00:50:43.000 George Bush's father, guys.

00:50:44.000 Yes.

00:50:44.000 Who was director of the CIA prior to that.

00:50:46.000 Prior to that.

00:50:47.000 That's the guy who, you know, Iran-Contra, and, you know, they shout out to Free Ray Ricky.

00:50:51.000 That's how he got all his money.

00:50:52.000 Can't be on him, Ali North, and all that.

00:50:55.000 So...

00:50:57.000 He was president and he was like, we're gonna go over here.

00:51:00.000 We're gonna stop, you know, Saddam. 1.00

00:51:01.000 He kept calling him Saddam Hussein.

00:51:02.000 Like, we're gonna stop Saddam Hussein. 0.95

00:51:04.000 Saddam? 0.90

00:51:05.000 Oh my God.

00:51:06.000 Don't look up the videos, y'all.

00:51:06.000 There are a bunch of country boys from Texas.

00:51:08.000 There they are, boy.

00:51:09.000 The Bushes.

00:51:10.000 Oil family. 0.70

00:51:11.000 Oil, big money.

00:51:12.000 Yeah, big money.

00:51:13.000 So George H.W. Bush, I have a lot of respect for him.

00:51:16.000 Navy, aviator, that guy fought in the Pacific, got shot down.

00:51:21.000 You know, lost two of his crew.

00:51:23.000 And then he found out later as president, two of his crew members got, it was three of them on board.

00:51:27.000 He got shot down.

00:51:28.000 He landed in the water.

00:51:29.000 The crew members landed on land, occupied by the Japanese.

00:51:32.000 We're fighting.

00:51:32.000 This is World War II, guys.

00:51:33.000 I know we're jumping around, but stay with us.

00:51:36.000 And George H.W. Bush never knew what happened to those guys.

00:51:40.000 It was one of his best friends, actually, who just happened to be, hey, I'm about to go on a bombing mission.

00:51:44.000 Do you want to go?

00:51:45.000 He's like, yeah, I'll go. 0.99

00:51:45.000 So I would never do some shit like that. 0.99

00:51:47.000 But hey, so his best friend and then, you know, George Bush is flying and then he had his navigator or whatever back there. 0.99

00:51:54.000 And they're doing their thing.

00:51:56.000 They get shot down.

00:51:57.000 He never knew what happened to those guys.

00:51:59.000 Wow.

00:51:59.000 Fast forward, decades later, he's president of the United States.

00:52:02.000 He's going over some documents.

00:52:04.000 He's going over paperwork.

00:52:05.000 He comes across the names of those two men, and he found out how they met their end.

00:52:10.000 And if they were captured by the Japanese, they were tortured.

00:52:14.000 And allegedly, there was some cannibalism involved. 1.00

00:52:18.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:52:18.000 Oh, wow. 1.00

00:52:18.000 So it was like a horrible way to go. 1.00

00:52:20.000 Yeah.

00:52:21.000 So imagine, you're president of the United States, you're doing your thing, and all of a sudden, you figure out what happened to your homeboys while you're sitting there, right?

00:52:29.000 Still got to take care of the country, still got to take care of the world.

00:52:31.000 Yeah.

00:52:39.000 We're good to go.

00:52:53.000 There's stuff, right?

00:52:55.000 That's when we found out about the Patriot missile.

00:52:56.000 That's when we found out how good the M1 Abrams tank is.

00:53:00.000 That's when we found out how good, you know, the Bradley fighting vehicle is.

00:53:03.000 You know, that's when we found out all of our technology.

00:53:05.000 Our last conflict was Vietnam, if I'm not mistaken.

00:53:07.000 The last major conflict was Vietnam, but after Vietnam, there was Panama.

00:53:11.000 There was Grenada, then there was Panama.

00:53:13.000 Smaller things.

00:53:14.000 Yeah.

00:53:14.000 And then, like, special ops stuff going on.

00:53:16.000 I was going to say, that was special ops stuff.

00:53:17.000 So, like, we didn't showcase, like, the military might, like, from a more general perspective.

00:53:21.000 Yeah, since Vietnam.

00:53:22.000 Okay.

00:53:22.000 So you got all this.

00:53:23.000 You got the F-14 Tomcat.

00:53:26.000 I think that's when the F-16s were online.

00:53:28.000 So, you know, laser-guided munitions, cruise missiles, all that stuff.

00:53:33.000 You know, you look at it. 0.99

00:53:33.000 I'm not a big conspiracy theory guy, but we had a lot of shit to sell. 0.99

00:53:39.000 We was like... 0.99

00:53:41.000 Hey, look what we can do.

00:53:42.000 Who wants one of these? 0.97

00:53:44.000 You know what I mean?

00:53:45.000 So we went over there.

00:53:47.000 It was a showcase for the military industrial complex.

00:53:49.000 Yes, yes.

00:53:50.000 And so that's to set the stage.

00:53:52.000 That's what happened.

00:53:54.000 So that's, you know, here I am, this kid from Cincinnati, in the middle of the desert, in the middle of Saudi Arabia, you know what I mean?

00:54:01.000 On the border, doing our thing as an air traffic controller.

00:54:06.000 So yeah, we were there.

00:54:08.000 I got to meet the culture.

00:54:10.000 This is why I don't go to the Middle East. 1.00

00:54:11.000 No offense to y'all over there, but I don't fuck with y'all, man. 0.99

00:54:16.000 I'll do you over there. 0.99

00:54:17.000 What you say, stay over there?

00:54:19.000 Stay over there.

00:54:20.000 Hashtag stay over there.

00:54:21.000 Stay over there.

00:54:21.000 If y'all come over here, you do what we do.

00:54:23.000 But I ain't coming over there to party.

00:54:24.000 But people tell me things have changed a lot since I was there.

00:54:28.000 Saudi Arabia, they're trying to become more westernized and bring tourism and stuff.

00:54:34.000 They're looking at the UAE and they're like, well, they're bringing a bunch of money over there.

00:54:38.000 So you were in Saudi Arabia the whole time?

00:54:41.000 They're doing the air traffic control?

00:54:42.000 Yeah, I was there.

00:54:55.000 Sure.

00:55:09.000 Yeah, okay.

00:55:11.000 Yeah, they were where they needed to be.

00:55:14.000 Okay.

00:55:14.000 So, one of our guys, real good guy, shout out to you V, wherever you at bro, he was on the team and they were where they were and It's just four-man team, no heavy weapons, really just our side-arms,

00:55:30.000 M16s, whatever you got, you know, your side-arms or whatever, 45 or 9mm, whatever you're carrying, and maybe an AT4, a law, some hand grenades, whatever you can carry, right?

00:55:40.000 It is nighttime, and he said, man, I heard this god-awful noise coming.

00:55:46.000 Just this noise, you didn't know what it was, it's the metallic noise.

00:55:48.000 It's getting closer, closer and closer, and he can fit in there.

00:55:51.000 It's close enough now, it's like, man, that's a tank.

00:55:54.000 NVGs, batteries were dead.

00:55:56.000 So couldn't really see.

00:55:57.000 You can hear it.

00:55:58.000 And if you've ever been in the desert at night with no moon, it's like being in the closet, bro, with a hood over your head.

00:56:03.000 You can't see nothing. 1.00

00:56:05.000 Damn. 0.99

00:56:05.000 So you can hear. 0.99

00:56:06.000 So they're like, is a tank coming?

00:56:09.000 It's like four guys.

00:56:10.000 Bro, is a tank coming?

00:56:11.000 We're not ready for this.

00:56:13.000 And it turns out that that tank was French Foreign Legion.

00:56:16.000 The Foreign Legion was sent to protect their flank.

00:56:19.000 But because their radios were down or whatever, and they couldn't tell them the tank was coming to protect you, all they knew was tanks are coming.

00:56:26.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:27.000 And they didn't know what to do.

00:56:28.000 And then, you know, the Legionnaires show up, aha, what do you eat? 0.95

00:56:31.000 He's like, all right, cool.

00:56:35.000 So just an idea of how jumbled war can be.

00:56:38.000 Of course, of course.

00:56:39.000 You know, fog of war is terrible.

00:56:41.000 A lot better now, more technology.

00:56:42.000 We can see everything now, but back then it was still kind of, you know, stone ages.

00:56:46.000 So yeah, I was over there and we did our thing.

00:56:48.000 We never really got to do a mission.

00:56:52.000 When the ground war started and we were briefed, so our mission was to set up a dummy airport.

00:56:59.000 Real close to an airport that we're going to be using for supply missions.

00:57:02.000 And our job was to turn on all of our equipment, all of our ATC stuff, all of our tactical stuff.

00:57:07.000 So the Army has everything tactical, like everything you can see at the airport, the Army has on the back of a truck.

00:57:13.000 So you can, you know, tower, radar, all this kind of stuff.

00:57:16.000 They can do whatever they need to do.

00:57:18.000 They want us to turn on all our equipment.

00:57:20.000 So the Iraqis would see us, fire at us, and keep fire off of the real airport that was over here that was doing the real work. 0.99

00:57:27.000 You're like, oh, I got you. 1.00

00:57:29.000 I mean, this is a bullshit mission. 1.00

00:57:31.000 It's setting you up, man. 1.00

00:57:33.000 Follow orders, right?

00:57:35.000 And I remember we were packing to create a move.

00:57:38.000 We were going to convoy to our position and set up.

00:57:40.000 And the one thing that I remember from my time over there was we were moving crates of body bags.

00:57:48.000 You know, I'm just like, you know, it's like bag, human remains.

00:57:52.000 That's what it said on the crate.

00:57:53.000 Like, these are body bags?

00:57:54.000 They're like, yeah, load them up.

00:57:55.000 And it's like, these are for me.

00:57:58.000 Like, these bags, I'm going to wind up in one of these bags after we go over here and turn on our equipment because they're going to triangulate on our position.

00:58:05.000 Was it American?

00:58:08.000 Bodies? 0.93

00:58:08.000 Yeah, our body bags. 0.93

00:58:10.000 Oh, it was ours.

00:58:10.000 Okay.

00:58:12.000 We're just packing up our stuff and getting ready to move.

00:58:14.000 Yeah, it wasn't an enemy.

00:58:15.000 Okay.

00:58:15.000 No, but did any of your friends pass away during this period of time where, like, you were there?

00:58:19.000 No, none of my guys...

00:58:20.000 No, there was some friendly fire accidents over there, but none of my guys were involved in that, luckily.

00:58:25.000 Like, all our guys...

00:58:26.000 We had a guy...

00:58:27.000 We had a guy who wanted to go home.

00:58:30.000 He got tired of being over there and wanted to go home, so allegedly...

00:58:34.000 You know how you have the universal weights thing, the pulleys and the plates, the little plates go up, you know what I'm saying?

00:58:39.000 Like you're doing the pulleys on the weights and then he pulled them up, put his hand in there, let the weights go.

00:58:45.000 Allegedly.

00:58:45.000 Oh, so that he can get a medical discharge.

00:58:48.000 He went home.

00:58:49.000 He sent him home.

00:58:50.000 Crushed his hand.

00:58:50.000 I saw his hand.

00:58:51.000 It was all pinned up and everything.

00:58:53.000 I remember I saw a dude in our unit and brag when I was going over and I was like, why are you here?

00:58:58.000 And then when I got over, they told me about dude.

00:59:01.000 Yeah.

00:59:01.000 So allegedly that's what happened.

00:59:03.000 Okay.

00:59:04.000 I'm like, I don't ever want to go home that bad. 1.00

00:59:06.000 Yeah, where you got to do that shit. 1.00

00:59:08.000 You'll get in trouble. 1.00

00:59:11.000 If they could prove it?

00:59:12.000 Yeah.

00:59:12.000 If they could prove it, that's a dishonorable discharge from an investigation, all that.

00:59:15.000 100%.

00:59:16.000 Yeah.

00:59:16.000 100%.

00:59:17.000 The military courts are not as nice.

00:59:19.000 No, no.

00:59:20.000 So Desert Storm, we thought was going to be real crazy, but our technology was so superior that it went like that.

00:59:26.000 The missions went so fast.

00:59:28.000 Yeah, Desert Storm was not a long conflict.

00:59:30.000 What, two years?

00:59:31.000 What?

00:59:31.000 Man, after we started, it might have been like four days.

00:59:34.000 Okay.

00:59:35.000 Really?

00:59:35.000 Bro, we dismantled their army.

00:59:38.000 Look up Road of Death.

00:59:39.000 Okay.

00:59:40.000 Desert Storm Road of Death.

00:59:41.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:59:42.000 And we destroyed those guys.

00:59:44.000 You know, Storm and Norman Schwarzkopf.

00:59:45.000 He was in charge.

00:59:46.000 He wanted to make sure that thing was swift.

00:59:48.000 But when you say what, like the whole conflict between beginning and the issue, the tensions rising, what, a year, two years?

00:59:53.000 Maybe a year, year and a half.

00:59:54.000 See, this is good because you don't get these in books.

00:59:57.000 You're seeing someone who's actually there talking about it.

00:59:59.000 We were saying once we had boots on ground and we were over there, days.

01:00:02.000 It was done.

01:00:03.000 Obviously, leading up to the conflict wasn't long.

01:00:07.000 I got there January 91.

01:00:11.000 I was home by spring.

01:00:13.000 Wow.

01:00:14.000 Okay.

01:00:14.000 And I was supposed to stay extra because I was one of the last guys there.

01:00:20.000 So, look, we're going to let everybody else go home.

01:00:22.000 You're going to have to stay over here with this equipment, put it on the ship.

01:00:26.000 I was supposed to stay there for another three months.

01:00:28.000 But then another guy wanted to do that.

01:00:30.000 He wanted to do it for various reasons, so I got to go home.

01:00:33.000 Okay.

01:00:34.000 I was like, ooh, I was going to just be stuck over there.

01:00:36.000 And that's the first time I ever got to talk to Palestinians.

01:00:38.000 First time I ever met Palestinians, we were in Saudi Arabia in the rear with the gear. 1.00

01:00:43.000 Everything was over.

01:00:43.000 We were just waiting to go home.

01:00:44.000 And we saw a carload of girls. 1.00

01:00:47.000 You know what I mean?

01:00:47.000 They weren't wearing ninja uniforms, so we were like, who...

01:00:50.000 They can't be locals.

01:00:52.000 They can't be locals.

01:00:53.000 He's talking about the hijab.

01:00:56.000 And they spoke English.

01:00:57.000 We were talking to them.

01:00:58.000 They were like, you know, 16, 17-ish.

01:01:01.000 And, you know, we're young.

01:01:02.000 You were 18 at the time.

01:01:04.000 And then they invited us to their house.

01:01:06.000 And we got to talk to, like, dad and everything.

01:01:08.000 Which, great.

01:01:09.000 I mean, Palestinian folks, I didn't know anything about that.

01:01:12.000 This is my first experience with, you know, and he was telling us about the West Bank and Gaza and everything.

01:01:17.000 And this was, again, this was 1991.

01:01:20.000 This is right after the first Intifada.

01:01:22.000 Because the first one, if I'm not mistaken, was 89.

01:01:25.000 First Intifada, which means the rise up, guys.

01:01:28.000 Sorry.

01:01:28.000 Right.

01:01:28.000 But here's the thing, though.

01:01:29.000 That's the first time I ever saw true hatred.

01:01:33.000 In someone's eyes.

01:01:34.000 Like, I mean, I've seen people mad.

01:01:37.000 I've been in scrapes.

01:01:38.000 You know, we've heard the pop pops and all that.

01:01:40.000 But I ain't never seen nobody.

01:01:42.000 Like, we were just talking about the situation.

01:01:44.000 He didn't hate people.

01:01:46.000 He hated the situation.

01:01:48.000 It was true hate.

01:01:50.000 You know, because he was a refugee.

01:01:52.000 He managed to get out of there.

01:01:53.000 He got his family out of there.

01:01:54.000 I don't know where he went next.

01:01:55.000 I don't know where they ended up.

01:01:57.000 Maybe they end up here.

01:01:58.000 Maybe they wind up in Germany. 0.93

01:01:59.000 I mean, Patrick B. David, he came out of his country when he was like 10.

01:02:04.000 Went to Germany as a refugee.

01:02:06.000 So...

01:02:06.000 But the Palestinians, and then when I talk to my friends who are Israeli and who live there, the only time I've ever seen true hate was when I'm talking to these folks and they're talking about that situation over there.

01:02:18.000 And it's on both sides.

01:02:19.000 You know why?

01:02:20.000 He was probably there for the Nakba in 48 or something like that.

01:02:22.000 This is the 90s?

01:02:23.000 Yeah, he was probably a little kid.

01:02:25.000 He was probably a kid when that happened.

01:02:26.000 And for those that are wondering, the Nakba was the day that pretty much Israel was created. 0.85

01:02:30.000 After World War II, they wanted to go somewhere.

01:02:33.000 And that's where a lot of them got displaced from their homes.

01:02:35.000 So like, yeah.

01:02:36.000 I would imagine he's probably good.

01:02:38.000 So that's the first time I saw true hatred.

01:02:41.000 It was an amazing man.

01:02:43.000 I was like, we were just so cool and everything. 0.99

01:02:45.000 And I was like, damn. 0.99

01:02:46.000 And I remember thinking like, I think that's how white people used to hate us. 0.99

01:02:49.000 Like my ancestors.

01:02:50.000 I'm surprised that he was in Saudi Arabia.

01:02:51.000 I mean, most of them went to Jordan or to other places.

01:02:54.000 So he was in Saudi or Egypt.

01:02:56.000 But it might've been like a stopover.

01:02:58.000 Maybe they were going somewhere else.

01:02:59.000 Yeah.

01:02:59.000 Who knows?

01:03:00.000 Real cool guy.

01:03:01.000 You know what I mean?

01:03:01.000 So, yeah.

01:03:02.000 That's the first time you heard about the conflict.

01:03:04.000 First time.

01:03:04.000 And then from there, of course, I started looking into it.

01:03:06.000 That's something you guys need to do.

01:03:07.000 Like, when you hear these things, don't just rely on us to tell you. 0.99

01:03:11.000 Look this shit up for yourself. 0.99

01:03:13.000 It's easy now. 0.99

01:03:14.000 You can see your phone.

01:03:15.000 Just pull out your phone.

01:03:16.000 You can tell you anything you want to know.

01:03:17.000 You know, back in the day, I had to go to a library.

01:03:19.000 You know what I mean?

01:03:19.000 I had to get some books.

01:03:21.000 You know what I mean?

01:03:21.000 We got charged.

01:03:22.000 We didn't bring the books back.

01:03:23.000 You know what I mean?

01:03:24.000 I think the library's still looking for me.

01:03:25.000 I think I might have a couple of their books.

01:03:26.000 Oh, yeah.

01:03:27.000 Yeah.

01:03:27.000 Most of these Gen Z guys don't even know what you're talking about.

01:03:30.000 I have no idea who you're talking about.

01:03:31.000 You just have a library card, guys. 0.68

01:03:32.000 You take a book out or a couple books out, and if you don't bring them back in a certain time, they find you and shit like that. 0.94

01:03:37.000 Yeah, they send the mob after you, man. 0.94

01:03:39.000 You know what I mean?

01:03:40.000 Some Barbados is so small.

01:03:42.000 Everyone knows each other.

01:03:43.000 So if you didn't return your book, they'd be like, Mrs. 0.84

01:03:46.000 Cheryl, your son didn't bring the book back.

01:03:48.000 And everyone would know in the town.

01:03:50.000 Oh, that you didn't have those?

01:03:51.000 Yeah, everyone would tell on you.

01:03:53.000 Don't need to join the service to see the world, but...

01:03:56.000 I like to see the world from the sights of my weapon, bro.

01:03:59.000 Like, I travel now, but it was nothing like...

01:04:01.000 If somebody give you a hard time and you standing behind a Mark 19, you know, it was an automatic grenade launcher, bro!

01:04:09.000 That's how I wanted to see the world.

01:04:11.000 And it's free.

01:04:11.000 You're seeing it for free, too.

01:04:13.000 People don't understand that traveling is extremely expensive now, so doing it through the military is a great way to become more worldly without breaking your pocketbooks.

01:04:20.000 And you learn a bunch of tangible skills while you're in the military.

01:04:22.000 Do you think if there was a World War III right now, the guys of today are drafted in, can handle this pressure?

01:04:30.000 Yes, and I'll tell you why.

01:04:32.000 Think about how America was prior to World War II or World War I. You want to talk about naive guys in the bubble, whatever.

01:04:39.000 All they knew was right around them.

01:04:41.000 And then in World War I, they got sent overseas.

01:04:43.000 Now they find themselves in trenches or Bellowood, right?

01:04:47.000 Or World War II, they find themselves in Normandy or they find themselves in Guadalcanal somewhere or, you know what I mean, island hopping, fighting the Japanese.

01:04:54.000 Those guys were able to do it.

01:04:56.000 I think these guys could do it.

01:04:58.000 But the problem is, if we went to a situation where it was a big conflict, like let's say that what's going on with Gaza and what's going on in Ukraine with Russia, and then Taiwan pops up, and it's a conventional war, and we have to draft and all that kind of stuff.

01:05:15.000 The army won't be friendly.

01:05:17.000 It won't be nice anymore.

01:05:18.000 It'll be a draft.

01:05:19.000 You'll get training.

01:05:19.000 It ain't no, I'm going to call my mom.

01:05:21.000 They had this thing called stress cards when I was getting out.

01:05:24.000 I'm feeling stressed, drill sergeant.

01:05:25.000 You can hold up your card.

01:05:27.000 You hold up that card, they'll probably shove it right up your...

01:05:31.000 They will beat you in that scenario because... 0.98

01:05:34.000 When you're looking at a scenario where we lose everything America is, you lose that war, you lose America, all this niceties, all that bullshit goes out the window. 0.99

01:05:43.000 Now you're fighting for survival. 0.98

01:05:45.000 Let me ask you this, Saint.

01:05:47.000 I get this question a lot from people.

01:05:50.000 Hey, I'm thinking about joining the military.

01:05:52.000 I'm 17, I'm 18.

01:05:53.000 I've talked to a recruiter, you know, or I'm in college right now and I want to become a, you know, go to OCS, Officer Candidate School.

01:05:59.000 Could you advise, would you say it's an intelligent decision for somebody to go into the military now in 2024 with, you know, the global conflicts that we got going on?

01:06:08.000 Do you think it's a viable choice for people nowadays?

01:06:11.000 What's your thoughts?

01:06:11.000 That's a tough question, bro.

01:06:12.000 I ain't gonna lie to you.

01:06:13.000 I struggle with this one.

01:06:14.000 Okay.

01:06:15.000 Prior to...

01:06:17.000 I would say prior to 2000...

01:06:19.000 Or you could give the good and the bad.

01:06:21.000 You could give maybe why it might be good, why it might be bad, if you can't come with a conclusive, and then let them decide, hey, this is what you can look up on the positives, these are the negatives, and then let them come to their conclusion.

01:06:31.000 But everything's better.

01:06:32.000 Yeah, I would say...

01:06:34.000 I used to be 100% yes, join the military.

01:06:36.000 Especially if you come from a background like mine.

01:06:38.000 The sky's the limit.

01:06:39.000 Join the military.

01:06:39.000 Just be smart.

01:06:40.000 Figure out where you want to go.

01:06:41.000 Do your research.

01:06:42.000 I was all in.

01:06:44.000 But I would say about maybe 10 years ago or so, I started to rethink that.

01:06:50.000 You know, and for various reasons.

01:06:52.000 You know, right now, I really hate the fact that the people who decide where we fight have never fought.

01:07:00.000 I don't like that.

01:07:01.000 I don't like that at all.

01:07:03.000 And those same people who decide where we fight, they've never fought, and their children aren't in the military.

01:07:09.000 So who are they sending?

01:07:10.000 I think this goes back, was the last president that fought in the military, was it Reagan?

01:07:13.000 Reagan didn't serve in the military.

01:07:14.000 He couldn't get in.

01:07:15.000 Okay, so Reagan was one of the first...

01:07:16.000 He couldn't get in.

01:07:18.000 So Reagan, Clinton, Obama, Bush Jr., and now we got Trump.

01:07:23.000 None of these guys served in the military.

01:07:24.000 Jr.

01:07:25.000 was.

01:07:25.000 We got to give him half credit because he was an air guard.

01:07:29.000 So he was, yeah, W... I'm pretty sure Daddy hooked him up. 0.59

01:07:34.000 W was in the reserve or the air guard or something like that.

01:07:38.000 So he technically served.

01:07:41.000 Sorry your reserve is out there.

01:07:42.000 I don't count my reserve time.

01:07:44.000 I did four years.

01:07:44.000 That's the only thing I count.

01:07:45.000 Count the rest of that.

01:07:46.000 You only count active.

01:07:47.000 That's me.

01:07:47.000 Okay.

01:07:48.000 But technically he served.

01:07:49.000 So he was a reservist for four years.

01:07:50.000 And he was the last one.

01:07:51.000 He was the last president to serve in the military.

01:07:54.000 But every president after that hasn't been in.

01:07:55.000 Was Clinton in?

01:07:56.000 I don't think even Clinton served.

01:07:58.000 Okay.

01:07:58.000 The last one.

01:07:59.000 So Jimmy Carter was the real one.

01:08:00.000 The last one to serve active.

01:08:03.000 Jimmy Carter, and then, well, Bush W. was the last one technically.

01:08:08.000 Bush Sr., yeah.

01:08:10.000 Bush Sr., yeah, he was absolutely hardcore. 0.99

01:08:12.000 Bush, like I said, the shit he went through, right? 0.99

01:08:14.000 So Reagan, Clinton, all the rest of them. 0.99

01:08:18.000 Junior, Obama, Trump, yeah, none of them.

01:08:21.000 And Biden.

01:08:21.000 And Biden never did either, yeah?

01:08:23.000 Never served.

01:08:24.000 Wow.

01:08:24.000 Okay.

01:08:25.000 If I were a commander and had my way, everybody in the United States, every man, woman, You know what I mean?

01:08:33.000 We'll have to serve.

01:08:35.000 You're 18 years old, two years of service, United States military.

01:08:39.000 None of this.

01:08:40.000 Well, my daddy is rich.

01:08:41.000 Nope. 1.00

01:08:41.000 If you're a rich person, like you're one of the Kennedys or the Rockefellers or whatever, we're going to give you a fake name, put your ass in there, and you're going to serve. 1.00

01:08:49.000 And then when you come out, if you become one of the elites and you run the country, at least you know what it means. 0.99

01:08:54.000 When George H.W. Bush sent us to war, he knew exactly what he was doing.

01:08:58.000 He knew exactly what that meant.

01:09:01.000 He knew people were going to lose their lives.

01:09:04.000 When I was at Fort Bragg, for the four years I was there, I was there for three years, the four years I was there, I was three years at Bragg.

01:09:09.000 There used to be this big sign.

01:09:11.000 If anybody's at Liberty or whatever they call it now, let me know if this sign is still there.

01:09:14.000 It should be this big-ass sign.

01:09:16.000 It's home of the 82nd Airborne Division.

01:09:19.000 If the base could go 82 days without somebody dying, this is during peacetime.

01:09:24.000 If we can go 82 days without someone dying, we would get like an extra day off, like a holiday.

01:09:29.000 I think we got like, I was there three years, we got like a holiday I think twice.

01:09:35.000 So what does that mean?

01:09:36.000 Every time they train, every time you move a lot of people, someone dies.

01:09:41.000 It is dangerous in the United States military.

01:09:43.000 We train hard, right?

01:09:45.000 Why?

01:09:45.000 Because America's business is serious.

01:09:49.000 So, you know, and that's one of those things, bro.

01:09:51.000 It's like, every American...

01:09:54.000 Like, I know how you feel about women being in the military. 1.00

01:09:57.000 I'm like, fuck that. 1.00

01:09:57.000 They can serve. 1.00

01:09:58.000 They can do...

01:09:59.000 We need cooks. 1.00

01:09:59.000 We need, you know, clerical specialists. 1.00

01:10:01.000 We need...

01:10:01.000 I just don't think they should be in infantry.

01:10:03.000 And, you know, another thing, too, that I like.

01:10:04.000 Like, yeah.

01:10:05.000 If they can meet the standard, fine.

01:10:07.000 Sure, yeah.

01:10:07.000 One standard.

01:10:08.000 One standard.

01:10:09.000 Not like...

01:10:10.000 Nothing against those female Rangers out there that made it through Ranger school. 1.00

01:10:14.000 Y'all know y'all did not make it through Ranger school. 1.00

01:10:16.000 Quit fucking bullshit. 1.00

01:10:17.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:10:18.000 They know.

01:10:18.000 Y'all had a special thing, because it was a political thing.

01:10:22.000 But if you can make the standard, I don't care what you want.

01:10:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:10:25.000 I agree.

01:10:26.000 If they can pass the standard, put them in.

01:10:28.000 One standard.

01:10:29.000 But one standard, though, yeah.

01:10:30.000 One high standard.

01:10:31.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:10:33.000 One high standard.

01:10:34.000 So I think everyone should have to join the United States military for at least two years.

01:10:38.000 I'm not opposed to that.

01:10:39.000 And then, if you want to be president or whatever, it's kind of like that movie. 0.99

01:10:43.000 What's that movie with the bugs and shit? 0.99

01:10:46.000 No, when they were fighting the bugs. 0.99

01:10:50.000 Chad, what's the name of that movie when they were, the space movies, they was fighting the bugs?

01:10:54.000 Men in Black?

01:10:54.000 Uh-uh.

01:10:55.000 It was like a war movie.

01:10:56.000 Independence Day?

01:10:56.000 Was it not life?

01:10:58.000 Nah, look in the chat. 0.98

01:10:59.000 Someone in the chat is going to tell us, what was that movie called, bro, when they were fighting the bugs with the Ricos, Warriors, whatever the fuck it was. 0.97

01:11:08.000 Starship Troopers. 0.94

01:11:09.000 Thank you.

01:11:10.000 Thank you, Demon Fingers.

01:11:11.000 You the man.

01:11:12.000 Starship Troopers.

01:11:13.000 That's a series of books.

01:11:14.000 I never read the book.

01:11:16.000 But in that world, in order to be a citizen, you had to serve.

01:11:20.000 If you didn't serve, you weren't a citizen.

01:11:22.000 You couldn't vote.

01:11:22.000 You couldn't get certain things.

01:11:23.000 You couldn't buy certain things.

01:11:25.000 I'm okay with that.

01:11:28.000 I'm okay with that.

01:11:29.000 Oh, you didn't serve and you want a government loan?

01:11:31.000 No.

01:11:32.000 Oh, you didn't serve and you want a STEMI check?

01:11:35.000 No.

01:11:37.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:11:38.000 If you did serve, yeah, you get all that shit. 1.00

01:11:39.000 Come on in. 1.00

01:11:40.000 Come on in.

01:11:41.000 Get your government along.

01:11:41.000 Oh, you want to be a businessman?

01:11:43.000 Yeah.

01:11:43.000 You want to be President of the United States and you didn't serve?

01:11:46.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00

01:11:47.000 Well, yeah. 0.99

01:11:48.000 I mean, one of the titles of the President of the United States is Commander in Chief, which means you run the military.

01:11:52.000 You absolutely are the absolute authority on the military.

01:11:55.000 You know what I mean?

01:11:56.000 No one could really stop you on what you decide.

01:11:58.000 So it's like, yeah, I agree. 0.99

01:12:01.000 I think mandatory military service wouldn't be bad, and then it would sharpen up a lot of these guys that are pussies and soft. 0.99

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01:13:39.000 So we covered obviously the background and everything else like that.

01:13:45.000 So finish up with what you're saying.

01:13:47.000 So would you advise a young guy nowadays to get into the military?

01:13:51.000 Because that's a question we get all the time on these Zoom calls.

01:13:54.000 Guys that don't really know their place.

01:13:56.000 They don't know what to do.

01:13:56.000 They're like, I'm 18.

01:13:57.000 I don't have any direction.

01:13:58.000 I want to figure something out.

01:14:00.000 Would you suggest they do it nowadays with the geopolitical climate war in 2024 specifically?

01:14:04.000 I would say this.

01:14:05.000 Let's say you're in the hood and you're about to get taken all the way under by the streets.

01:14:09.000 Join the military.

01:14:10.000 Join whatever branch to take you.

01:14:11.000 Marine Corps is probably going to be the one for you.

01:14:13.000 Okay.

01:14:13.000 Join Marine Corps, join the army.

01:14:14.000 Get out of the streets.

01:14:16.000 Okay.

01:14:16.000 For those people, you just don't have the money.

01:14:18.000 You know what I mean?

01:14:19.000 You know, you're losing people every day.

01:14:21.000 Look what happened to Julio Fulio.

01:14:22.000 Like if you're in that world and you're looking for out, join the military today.

01:14:27.000 Okay.

01:14:28.000 All right.

01:14:28.000 Now the other side of that, if you're in college, He's like, okay, I have my degree, but man, I owe $100,000, $150,000.

01:14:38.000 And they got a bullshit degree. 1.00

01:14:40.000 They got a bullshit degree. 1.00

01:14:41.000 Join the military. 1.00

01:14:42.000 Okay.

01:14:42.000 Join, especially as an officer, because recently, as recent as like maybe 18 months ago, maybe less, The Navy was offering up to like $120,000 in college for college, either repayment or going to college.

01:14:58.000 Sheesh.

01:14:59.000 So you got to always watch because they're having trouble reaching their numbers.

01:15:02.000 So what do they go to?

01:15:03.000 They go to, what can we give you?

01:15:05.000 It used to be $70,000 and they lowered the standard down.

01:15:07.000 They want $70,000 recruits a year, if I'm not mistaken.

01:15:10.000 And they lowered the standard to $55,000 or something like that.

01:15:12.000 But yeah.

01:15:13.000 So if you're up there, you got this big debt.

01:15:16.000 How am I going to clear this debt?

01:15:17.000 Join the military.

01:15:18.000 If you're in the middle, Come from a good home, you know, you got a halfway decent job, you're savvy enough to level up and you know, you can work from home and then nah, don't join.

01:15:31.000 Don't even think about it.

01:15:33.000 If you're doing alright, don't even think about it.

01:15:35.000 Because I saw a lot of those people join when I was in and they found themselves in faraway lands or they found themselves in situations here. 0.89

01:15:42.000 The only times we really got shot at for us, me and my buddy Jay Swans, was right here in fucking Dade County.

01:15:50.000 They sent us down here for Hurricane Andrew relief. 0.93

01:15:52.000 We're down in Homestead.

01:15:55.000 Getting shot at.

01:15:56.000 Really?

01:15:57.000 America, baby!

01:15:59.000 Yeah, wow.

01:16:00.000 Okay.

01:16:01.000 Land of the free, huh?

01:16:02.000 Okay, so that's a pretty good...

01:16:03.000 So, if you're in a bad situation, you know, you're around criminal activity, young, you don't really have any guidance in the military. 0.93

01:16:09.000 If you get out of college and you got a bunch of debt and you got a dumbass degree... 0.81

01:16:13.000 70K bonus joining last year. 0.98

01:16:14.000 Okay.

01:16:15.000 Along with...

01:16:16.000 And what are the...

01:16:17.000 And you can use your GI Bill retroactively, right? 0.85

01:16:19.000 I had a shitty GI Bill.

01:16:22.000 I had the Montgomery GI Bill, which was like, back then you had to get the college fund and you had to enlist more for that. 0.55

01:16:27.000 So what I had, it barely even paid for books, bro.

01:16:30.000 I'm keeping it $100.

01:16:30.000 I had to enlist in the Ohio National Guard and they paid 100% of my tuition.

01:16:36.000 But then the FAA came knocking.

01:16:38.000 Okay.

01:16:39.000 So I'm like, I'm out of here.

01:16:41.000 Yeah.

01:16:41.000 So, but yeah, you can, but today's benefits are outstanding.

01:16:47.000 Almost as good as the Vietnam era stuff was. 0.97

01:16:50.000 Okay.

01:16:51.000 And the World War II era stuff was.

01:16:52.000 The post 9-11 stuff, outstanding.

01:16:55.000 Good benefits.

01:16:56.000 Yeah.

01:16:56.000 Let's do a show on that one day.

01:16:58.000 What are the age requirements for people now to get into the military? 0.99

01:17:01.000 Shit, 17, which you could be a minor, like 17, I think, with your parents' permission. 0.99

01:17:05.000 18 years old. 0.99

01:17:06.000 I think it's like 17 and a half, 18 years old.

01:17:09.000 And again, guys out there, correct me if I'm wrong.

01:17:11.000 It's been a long time.

01:17:12.000 And that's it.

01:17:13.000 You can't have any criminal paths.

01:17:16.000 It used to be you couldn't even have misdemeanors.

01:17:19.000 But then they went back to just, okay, you can have misdemeanors, but no felonies.

01:17:22.000 Then it was like no violent crime.

01:17:24.000 So there's always ways around that.

01:17:25.000 But you just got to be 18.

01:17:27.000 You got to have a high school diploma or GED. I was wondering, why not put the criminals in jail that are very vicious to fight for us?

01:17:35.000 Because they're too vicious. 1.00

01:17:36.000 They'll kill us. 0.99

01:17:37.000 Yeah, and they won't follow orders. 0.99

01:17:39.000 Oh, okay.

01:17:39.000 Yeah, that's...

01:17:40.000 It would never work. 1.00

01:17:41.000 They'd go AWOL and shit. 1.00

01:17:43.000 You know, absent without leave. 0.99

01:17:44.000 Yeah, they would.

01:17:45.000 They can't follow the law, bro.

01:17:46.000 You think they'll follow military chain of command and know how to do things?

01:17:49.000 They would never.

01:17:50.000 No?

01:17:50.000 Okay.

01:17:51.000 That won't work.

01:17:51.000 You'd commit a bunch of crimes.

01:17:53.000 Yeah.

01:17:53.000 You'd get some, like, penny, like, you know, got misdemeanors and stuff like that.

01:17:57.000 Those guys, it might help.

01:17:58.000 I know a guy that I worked with in the FAA. He was like, look, I got into some trouble.

01:18:03.000 He was helping out a friend.

01:18:05.000 His friend was, like, a bad guy, and my buddy was just a good guy who was in the car waiting.

01:18:10.000 Police pulled him over.

01:18:10.000 You know this story.

01:18:12.000 There's some product in the car.

01:18:14.000 Oh, yeah.

01:18:14.000 They're all getting charged.

01:18:15.000 What do y'all say?

01:18:16.000 Whose is it?

01:18:16.000 Yeah.

01:18:18.000 So my friend was like, I'll say it was mine because I got a clean record.

01:18:21.000 Got before the judge.

01:18:22.000 The judge was like, it messed up his whole thing in college.

01:18:25.000 He was doing really good.

01:18:26.000 The judge was like, I can sentence you to go do some time or you can join the military.

01:18:30.000 And he joined the military.

01:18:31.000 So they still do that, I guess, in certain places.

01:18:35.000 Okay.

01:18:36.000 Okay, so that's some pretty good advice.

01:18:38.000 So if you got something going, you got a job, you got a good job or whatever, it might not be in your best interest to join, especially nowadays with how we got things going.

01:18:45.000 But if you don't know where you are or even if you got a degree and you don't know what you're doing or you got a lot of debt, it might be a good option for you to get in there and get some real tangible skills versus a useless degree.

01:18:54.000 What about MOSs?

01:18:55.000 What do you think as far as people getting into the military, what should they look into?

01:18:59.000 If they do decide to go this route, what MOSs should they?

01:19:02.000 What does it stand for?

01:19:02.000 Mode of specialty?

01:19:03.000 Specialty, something like that, yeah.

01:19:04.000 So MOS is your job.

01:19:08.000 So your job is your MOS. My MOS back then was 93 Charlie.

01:19:11.000 So you don't hear these numbers.

01:19:13.000 11 Bravo, that's infantry.

01:19:15.000 You know, 71 Lima, that was clerical specialist.

01:19:17.000 88 Mike, back when it was truck driver.

01:19:20.000 I don't know what the numbers are now.

01:19:21.000 Here's the thing with the job.

01:19:24.000 If you're in a situation where you gotta go, well...

01:19:27.000 All that's based on your ASVAB. You scored.

01:19:29.000 If they say the only thing you qualify for is a truck driver, take it.

01:19:31.000 Yeah.

01:19:32.000 You come out of college, you can negotiate.

01:19:35.000 Okay.

01:19:35.000 So you can kind of tell them what you want.

01:19:36.000 They're going to start offering you some real cool stuff.

01:19:39.000 You know, like, okay, we can get you air defense and we can get you.

01:19:41.000 Now cyber is huge because all the cyber attacks and stuff like that.

01:19:45.000 So you can get in there and they're going to teach you how to code and all that kind of stuff.

01:19:48.000 The government's going to pay for it.

01:19:49.000 I think something like that would be good.

01:19:51.000 The bottom line is this, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.

01:19:53.000 You're going to enlist in the United States military.

01:19:56.000 Understand that they are going to use you, and they're going to abuse your body.

01:20:00.000 When you enlist in the United States, you're a government-issued GI. That's what that stands for, bro. 0.61

01:20:06.000 Government issue.

01:20:07.000 You do what they tell you to do, or they will lock you up.

01:20:10.000 Because you signed the dotted line.

01:20:12.000 They have an independent court, by the way, for that.

01:20:14.000 You guys aren't going to go get indicted by a federal grand jury.

01:20:17.000 No, you're going to get court-martialed, and it's a whole other process.

01:20:21.000 I would say you have less rights in the military court than in the CIA courts.

01:20:26.000 U.C.M.J., Military Code of...

01:20:31.000 What is he?

01:20:32.000 Military Justice?

01:20:32.000 U.C.M.J. Uniform Code of Military Justice.

01:20:36.000 I told y'all I'm old, man.

01:20:38.000 It's been a long time. 0.99

01:20:38.000 I got big head, two shits floating around. 0.99

01:20:41.000 So, Uniform Code of Military Justice, man. 0.99

01:20:44.000 So, what happens to you in the military court?

01:20:48.000 It depends on who the rank of the judge.

01:20:51.000 If you got a captain, a captain can only do so much to you, right?

01:20:55.000 But if you are a field-grade officer, a major or above, they can kill you.

01:20:58.000 They can send you to death, especially in the combat zone.

01:21:01.000 I don't know if they change that around or that, but field-grade officers can do way more to you.

01:21:04.000 So if you got a major, you can do something wrong.

01:21:06.000 He can lock you up, do whatever.

01:21:07.000 You know what I mean?

01:21:08.000 So know what you're getting into, ladies and gentlemen. 0.99

01:21:10.000 But, damn, pick the job that's going to work for you. 0.99

01:21:14.000 Pick a field that translates into... 0.99

01:21:18.000 The civilian world.

01:21:19.000 Like me, air traffic controller.

01:21:20.000 Perfect segue.

01:21:21.000 Right?

01:21:21.000 So, I came out as an air traffic controller.

01:21:24.000 Now, I was in the army doing air traffic control, but I was a technical guy.

01:21:30.000 So, what did that really mean?

01:21:32.000 That meant that I was a very highly trained, highly skilled grunt.

01:21:36.000 I was still in the woods.

01:21:37.000 I was sneaking up on my food.

01:21:39.000 I was setting ambushes.

01:21:40.000 I was doing all sorts of things.

01:21:41.000 I wasn't in a tower talking to airplanes.

01:21:44.000 But...

01:21:45.000 I am an air traffic controller.

01:21:47.000 It says so.

01:21:47.000 I finished all the training.

01:21:49.000 So when I got out, the government looked at that and said, hey, we need air traffic controllers.

01:21:54.000 Are you an air traffic controller?

01:21:55.000 Yes, sir.

01:21:55.000 Can you prove it?

01:21:56.000 Here's my DD-214.

01:21:57.000 You're hired.

01:21:58.000 Wow.

01:21:59.000 DD-214 is your discharge paperwork from the military, guys.

01:22:02.000 That was a special program.

01:22:03.000 Now, to back up just a little bit, to give you guys all the sauce, This is about networking.

01:22:09.000 This is why I'm always talking about, you know, freshest networking skills.

01:22:12.000 I know y'all be hating on fresh.

01:22:13.000 I swear to God, I don't know why.

01:22:14.000 But this man, listen to me when it comes to networking.

01:22:18.000 I met someone when I was in the army.

01:22:21.000 My second year.

01:22:23.000 I met an older gentleman, a brother, solid man, and he said, hey, you're in air traffic control.

01:22:31.000 I'm like, yes, sir.

01:22:32.000 He was in the Air Force, but he went on to do some great things, and he's like, if I could help you get in to the, you know, government side, would you be interested?

01:22:41.000 I said, you know, yes, sir.

01:22:43.000 This is how I'm talking to him.

01:22:44.000 I went like, yeah, man, yeah, bro, yeah, that's lit.

01:22:46.000 No, yes, sir.

01:22:48.000 No, sir.

01:22:49.000 I was standing, sitting up straight.

01:22:52.000 He gave me his card.

01:22:53.000 He said, you keep in touch with me.

01:22:55.000 Right?

01:22:55.000 That was 1992.

01:22:58.000 Right?

01:22:59.000 I got in in 1998.

01:23:01.000 I got a call from him, like in 1994-ish, 95, no, 95, 96.

01:23:07.000 He called me.

01:23:08.000 You still interested?

01:23:11.000 Yes, sir.

01:23:12.000 And he told me what to do.

01:23:13.000 You're out the military at this point, right?

01:23:14.000 I'm out the military.

01:23:15.000 So 1990 to 1994, you're out now.

01:23:17.000 I'm out.

01:23:18.000 Okay.

01:23:18.000 And he hits you up right when you're coming out.

01:23:20.000 I met him when I was in the military.

01:23:23.000 Okay.

01:23:23.000 Then all his time passes.

01:23:25.000 I do all my army stuff.

01:23:27.000 Go to Korea, doing all this other kind of stuff.

01:23:29.000 I get out.

01:23:30.000 I kept his number.

01:23:32.000 I kept in touch like he told me.

01:23:33.000 He told me to keep in touch.

01:23:34.000 Yes, sir.

01:23:35.000 I kept in touch, checking in.

01:23:36.000 He gives me a call.

01:23:37.000 You still want to do this?

01:23:38.000 Yes, sir.

01:23:39.000 I'm going to send you a packet.

01:23:40.000 I need you to fill this packet out, and I need you to get it to this person on this day.

01:23:45.000 Yes, sir.

01:23:45.000 Right away, sir.

01:23:46.000 You see me that packet, man?

01:23:47.000 Was it SF50? Yeah.

01:23:50.000 Because, you know, before the computers, we had to...

01:23:52.000 Yeah.

01:23:52.000 And, guys, SF50 is basically your entire...

01:23:55.000 You go through...

01:23:56.000 Because you have to get a clearance, right?

01:23:57.000 Probably.

01:23:57.000 So, yeah.

01:23:58.000 Standard Form 50, which is basically like...

01:24:00.000 It's like a standard government document from OPM, and you basically, like, fill out all your stuff.

01:24:04.000 Name, address, where you lived the past 10 years.

01:24:06.000 It's very extensive.

01:24:08.000 Very, very extensive.

01:24:08.000 Where you've been working, who you know.

01:24:10.000 Yeah, references.

01:24:10.000 And it was that, and then you had to put in your resume, you had to put in a whole bunch.

01:24:14.000 Back then you had to put everything in there.

01:24:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:24:16.000 So he told me to do it, I got it done, got it to the person, and then that was it.

01:24:20.000 100 plus pages easily.

01:24:21.000 Got all that done.

01:24:22.000 My job.

01:24:23.000 I'm in the streets.

01:24:25.000 I'm doing my thing.

01:24:25.000 So you went back to Cincinnati at this point.

01:24:27.000 I went back to Cincinnati.

01:24:28.000 I'm working as a janitor at a high school.

01:24:30.000 Full-time job.

01:24:32.000 That's from 2 to 10.

01:24:34.000 And then from midnight to 8 a.m., I'm working at Walmart, working at Sears.

01:24:41.000 So I always had two full-time jobs and a side hustle.

01:24:45.000 I was street promoter.

01:24:46.000 One of the local record labels.

01:24:48.000 All Net Records, Tyrone Hill.

01:24:49.000 Shout out to my boys.

01:24:51.000 I worked for them until some Rainbow dude approached me.

01:24:56.000 Let's just say I didn't work there anymore.

01:24:58.000 Bad boys?

01:24:59.000 Yeah, dude wanted to proposition me, so I messed up some of the office.

01:25:06.000 I messed up some of the...

01:25:08.000 I may or may not have...

01:25:08.000 They might have needed some more drywall.

01:25:11.000 So imagine what they did at Byboy.

01:25:13.000 We can talk about that, bro.

01:25:15.000 Because I've been in that business.

01:25:18.000 The record side and the movie side, the record side is way worse.

01:25:22.000 All the stuff you hear about the movie stuff, like with the Harvey's and all that kind of stuff, nothing compared to what was going on on the hip-hop side.

01:25:30.000 I still can't believe Me Too missed that.

01:25:32.000 Yeah.

01:25:33.000 I covered that on FedReacts yesterday.

01:25:36.000 It was covered up a lot, but now it's seeping out through the pores.

01:25:40.000 Yeah.

01:25:41.000 So going back to what you were saying, so you're doing the janitor work and you're working for Sears and stuff like that.

01:25:46.000 Does Sears even still exist?

01:25:48.000 Barely.

01:25:49.000 I think they may have just a few left.

01:25:50.000 Okay.

01:25:51.000 Department store guys.

01:25:52.000 JCPenney's, they're gone too.

01:25:53.000 Kohl's, I think they're about to go. 0.99

01:25:54.000 Goddamn. 0.99

01:25:55.000 We got some problems, bro. 1.00

01:25:57.000 Retail is wild.

01:25:57.000 Nigga, who's going to Kohl's?

01:25:59.000 That shit's trash. 1.00

01:26:00.000 Who used to go in there anyway? 1.00

01:26:01.000 Fresh.

01:26:01.000 Everybody can't spend $15,000 on T-shirt, bro.

01:26:05.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:26:05.000 T-shirt, man.

01:26:06.000 I go to Zara.

01:26:07.000 I go to Target.

01:26:08.000 I love it there, you know?

01:26:09.000 You be in there chasing hoes. 1.00

01:26:10.000 You don't be shopping in there, bro.

01:26:11.000 Stick it, bro.

01:26:12.000 Stick it, man.

01:26:13.000 So you're there, right?

01:26:15.000 So you're working in these two full-time jobs, and you're doing the thing with the music stuff, but you left that after.

01:26:20.000 So, sorry, so you continue on.

01:26:21.000 So you get this call in 94 while you're doing these jobs.

01:26:24.000 While I'm doing these jobs, I get this call in 94.

01:26:25.000 You did this for, what, about a year, maybe?

01:26:27.000 Well, the first call came in and I did everything.

01:26:29.000 And then I get another call like eight months later to go do some interviews.

01:26:33.000 Go get this interview done.

01:26:34.000 Oh, because you filled in your packet, then you get a call eight months later.

01:26:37.000 Okay.

01:26:38.000 Go get this interview done.

01:26:40.000 Go this place. 1.00

01:26:40.000 It was almost like CIA type shit. 1.00

01:26:42.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:26:43.000 It's like you get the message and shit. 1.00

01:26:45.000 It's like this message will self-destruct type shit. 1.00

01:26:47.000 Oh, whatever. 0.99

01:26:47.000 I'm going to do my thing. 0.99

01:26:49.000 Do the interviews.

01:26:50.000 So it took about...

01:26:52.000 A year and some change of me getting these calls.

01:26:55.000 And the point I want you guys to take home from this, when someone is trying to help you, let them help you do what they say the first time.

01:27:04.000 Don't be on some, oh, what was that?

01:27:06.000 How much time do I have?

01:27:08.000 Because if we're trying to help you, if I'm trying to help you, And you making it hard for me to help you?

01:27:15.000 I'm like, yo, bye.

01:27:17.000 Also, just to add to your point as well, if you're likable and you're humble about things, guess what?

01:27:21.000 I want to help you even more now.

01:27:23.000 So that right there proves, even after all that time, you know what?

01:27:26.000 This young man I spoke to back then was humble and followed orders.

01:27:30.000 I got his back.

01:27:31.000 Yeah.

01:27:32.000 So we went through this process.

01:27:34.000 So from, I got out in 94.

01:27:36.000 So from 94 until 98, I'm working two full-time jobs.

01:27:41.000 My main full-time job was in school, and then I would have another full-time job, and then I would have my side hustle.

01:27:45.000 And then maybe I did some other stuff that you wouldn't like.

01:27:50.000 Just maybe.

01:27:51.000 Maybe.

01:27:51.000 Just maybe.

01:27:52.000 Maybe I was selling stuff that looked like oregano.

01:27:54.000 I don't know.

01:27:56.000 Allegedly.

01:27:58.000 But the point is, I was always working.

01:28:01.000 I'm young.

01:28:01.000 I'm in my 20s.

01:28:02.000 I'm not in the basement.

01:28:04.000 I'm chasing girls. 0.99

01:28:06.000 I'm making time for that, but...

01:28:09.000 I shouldn't have been, but I was chasing one, but my hustle was working.

01:28:13.000 I had my dudes who was out there really cranking. 0.93

01:28:15.000 I had dudes out there on some UJK, like Underground Kings type shit, UJK, pocket full of stones. 0.82

01:28:21.000 I had them dudes. 0.81

01:28:22.000 I had them dudes. 0.81

01:28:23.000 Y'all know what I'm talking about. 0.99

01:28:24.000 Got a pocket full of stones and they won't leave my ass alone. 0.99

01:28:27.000 Them guys were doing their thing. 0.99

01:28:28.000 They had the guys doing their green over here doing their thing, but they respected me because I just kept working.

01:28:33.000 They were like, yo hustle is...

01:28:35.000 They wouldn't even let me get involved.

01:28:37.000 Your hustle is working, man.

01:28:38.000 Just keep working.

01:28:39.000 Your hustle is networking.

01:28:40.000 Keep networking.

01:28:41.000 So we do all this, right?

01:28:45.000 And I get the call and he's like, okay, all your stuff is done with my man.

01:28:49.000 He hooked me up.

01:28:51.000 I'm like, cool.

01:28:52.000 I'm like, now what?

01:28:53.000 It's kind of here it is, 1996, going into 1997.

01:28:57.000 I get a call from some lady like, hello? 1.00

01:28:59.000 And FAA would like to formally ask if you would like to accept this position as an air traffic controller and ask me where I want to work.

01:29:08.000 And they're like, well, I see that you're in this region.

01:29:10.000 Did you want to wait until a position opens there?

01:29:13.000 Or I'm like, no, I want to go to work now, tomorrow.

01:29:16.000 And they're like, okay, we're going to send you to Northern California.

01:29:21.000 I held up the phone.

01:29:22.000 All that work that I was doing, y'all, back then, I was making maybe $28,000 a year.

01:29:28.000 Wow.

01:29:28.000 Okay.

01:29:29.000 Maybe.

01:29:29.000 Well, granted, this is before inflation.

01:29:32.000 So that roughly amounts to, this is what, 98?

01:29:34.000 This was 96.

01:29:36.000 96.

01:29:37.000 $28,000.

01:29:38.000 That's maybe 60 to 70K now.

01:29:40.000 Can we put inflation calculator real quick?

01:29:41.000 It was lower than that, y'all.

01:29:42.000 It was lower.

01:29:42.000 It might have been $25,000, $23,000.

01:29:45.000 I wasn't making that.

01:29:45.000 I mean, I was working hard, but minimum wage...

01:29:48.000 What would your spending power be in today's dollars, you would say, roughly? 0.99

01:29:51.000 Damn. 0.99

01:29:52.000 Maybe 40k? 1.00

01:29:53.000 Maybe 40k.

01:29:53.000 Oh, really?

01:29:54.000 Okay.

01:29:54.000 Maybe 40k, bro.

01:29:55.000 So for $40,000 in today's spending dollars, you would say?

01:29:58.000 Yeah.

01:29:58.000 So you're making 25k back then, but if we took that money today, you'd be 40k.

01:30:01.000 Yeah, about 40k.

01:30:02.000 So you can see that's not going to do anything.

01:30:03.000 Yeah, it's nothing, yeah.

01:30:04.000 And you were working two full-time jobs during that.

01:30:06.000 And a side hustle. 0.90

01:30:06.000 A legit side hustle. 0.90

01:30:08.000 My side hustles were always like the street promotions, and then I got into politics.

01:30:11.000 You know, I'm always talking about politics.

01:30:13.000 97, but he said it's 40k.

01:30:14.000 That's fine.

01:30:14.000 Yeah, we got it.

01:30:15.000 Yeah, I got into politics.

01:30:16.000 I was helping people, you know, any way I could.

01:30:20.000 Networking.

01:30:20.000 You live in Cincinnati, which has a very low cost of living.

01:30:23.000 You're trying different things.

01:30:25.000 You're trying new avenues.

01:30:26.000 Were you paying rent a month back then?

01:30:27.000 It might have been $800, $600, and barely making that.

01:30:32.000 Maybe, yeah.

01:30:33.000 Again, we wasn't money.

01:30:34.000 Yeah.

01:30:35.000 Which would have been maybe $1,100 today, $1,200 today.

01:30:39.000 Yeah, so roughly, yeah, it's saying $49,000 today.

01:30:41.000 Yeah, so that money didn't go for it.

01:30:43.000 And I'm chasing chicks. 0.91

01:30:44.000 Where do you think that money went?

01:30:45.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:30:46.000 People were like, oh, you take them out to find restaurants?

01:30:50.000 Hell no, I took them to the park.

01:30:51.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:30:52.000 You're talking about taking a cheap date?

01:30:54.000 Hell yeah.

01:30:54.000 Why?

01:30:55.000 Because I was broke.

01:30:56.000 So you got this call.

01:30:58.000 This is 96 now.

01:31:00.000 When did you actually get out to Northern California for...

01:31:02.000 1998.

01:31:03.000 So 1998, I get my packet.

01:31:05.000 They're like, welcome packet.

01:31:06.000 You're going to Van Nuys Airport.

01:31:08.000 Okay.

01:31:08.000 And I'm like, looking at a map, right?

01:31:10.000 Because back then, couldn't pull up your phone.

01:31:12.000 Guys had to pull out a Thompson guy.

01:31:13.000 Y'all know what that is.

01:31:14.000 Look it up. 0.94

01:31:14.000 Big-ass book. 0.94

01:31:15.000 It's a big-ass map, right? 0.91

01:31:16.000 So I'm opening it up.

01:31:17.000 I'm looking all over Northern California.

01:31:18.000 Can't find Van Nuys.

01:31:19.000 I can't find it because it's in L.A. So they're telling me, government, typical government, you're going here, but you actually wind up going there.

01:31:26.000 And at the time, Van Nuys was one of the busiest airports in the business.

01:31:31.000 So not only am I going, I'm getting hired off the street.

01:31:33.000 I'm an air traffic controller in name only, never really worked it.

01:31:36.000 But I'm going to...

01:31:38.000 It's like they're throwing me into the league, bro.

01:31:40.000 Like, I'm going to the pros.

01:31:42.000 Yeah, because it's a big airport.

01:31:43.000 Big airport. 1.00

01:31:44.000 And I'm like, shit. 1.00

01:31:45.000 So this is not LAX, to be clear. 0.99

01:31:47.000 It's not LAX. It's in the San Fernando Valley, Van Nuys, California.

01:31:52.000 If you guys have ever flown into the Burbank Airport, you fly right over Van Nuys as you're trying to land at Burbank.

01:31:58.000 Okay.

01:31:59.000 So I got in there.

01:32:00.000 It was very difficult, very hard.

01:32:02.000 You know, your first year is an air traffic controller.

01:32:08.000 It's probationary.

01:32:09.000 They can fire you for anything.

01:32:10.000 Yeah, that's like almost all government work.

01:32:12.000 Right.

01:32:12.000 And my guy who helped me out, my mentor, he was like, listen, I need you to focus 100% on this.

01:32:19.000 Don't give anyone a reason to fire you.

01:32:22.000 You need to be focused.

01:32:23.000 Get it done.

01:32:24.000 He knew where I was going.

01:32:25.000 What'd you come in at salary-wise at this point?

01:32:27.000 Well, at this point, they were coming off the GS scale, and the ATC scale came, because air traffic controllers have their own pay scale.

01:32:36.000 Oh, they're not on GS. So, Mo, if you can find an ATC salary, or let's just say ATC scale, ATC scale, pay scale, It's above GS. Okay.

01:32:46.000 So I came in and they were like, all right, you're going to...

01:32:50.000 I would have been making like 60 grand, 50, 60 grand, but I came in and it was just like pay raise after pay raise.

01:32:57.000 I came in like at 65 and then...

01:33:00.000 That's back...

01:33:00.000 65 in 1998.

01:33:02.000 Oh, that's a lot of money.

01:33:03.000 That's like 120 today, you would say?

01:33:07.000 105.

01:33:08.000 105 spending power today.

01:33:09.000 Okay.

01:33:10.000 And it kept growing up.

01:33:10.000 That's what you came in at.

01:33:12.000 That's good.

01:33:12.000 They kept going up.

01:33:14.000 Because I came in doing what they call reclass.

01:33:16.000 They're going from the GS scale to this ATC scale. 0.99

01:33:18.000 Damn, Monk. 0.99

01:33:19.000 That's nice. 0.99

01:33:20.000 Bro.

01:33:20.000 So I'm making more money than the people who are training me.

01:33:22.000 Because they get mad.

01:33:24.000 Of course.

01:33:25.000 Because they're like, if he finishes here, he's going to be making more than all of us.

01:33:28.000 And I'm like, hey, my fault.

01:33:30.000 I ain't come up. 1.00

01:33:30.000 I'm just trying to learn how to do this shit. 1.00

01:33:33.000 But again, being nice, networking, being humble. 0.99

01:33:38.000 Uh...

01:33:38.000 Air traffic controller.

01:33:40.000 Pay scale.

01:33:41.000 Pay scale to see a year.

01:33:43.000 That's...

01:33:43.000 Yeah, they have a...

01:33:44.000 It's a government pay scale that should show air traffic control.

01:33:49.000 That's it right there.

01:33:50.000 Yeah, right there.

01:33:50.000 Yeah, because it's.gov.

01:33:51.000 Yeah, that's it right there.

01:33:52.000 Yeah.

01:33:53.000 Okay.

01:33:54.000 That's fine.

01:33:55.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:33:55.000 Take your time.

01:33:56.000 Take your time.

01:33:56.000 He'll talk.

01:33:57.000 So, um...

01:33:58.000 I'm at this very busy place.

01:34:00.000 I'm at a place that a lot of controllers want to go to.

01:34:02.000 I get into ATC politics.

01:34:03.000 Oh, it's important to know also.

01:34:04.000 Guys, another reason why I probably got paid so much is because of locality pay.

01:34:07.000 ATSP, I'm assuming, assumes locality as well.

01:34:10.000 That was even before that.

01:34:11.000 So there's no locality.

01:34:12.000 No, no, you get it now, but that got on top of what I was making.

01:34:15.000 Okay.

01:34:16.000 So that was...

01:34:16.000 Yes, you get that and you get...

01:34:19.000 They have what's called CIP, controller incentive pay.

01:34:21.000 On top of all that, you got locality government rate.

01:34:24.000 And then on top of that, you have controller incentive pay because it's so expensive to live in LA, California, and all that kind of stuff.

01:34:30.000 It is, yeah.

01:34:30.000 So I'm like, yo, it's...

01:34:37.000 So, the program I got hired under was called Veterans Relocation Act, VRA. So I just had to show them I was an air traffic controller and they just hired me.

01:34:44.000 So here I am.

01:34:45.000 They think I'm an experienced air traffic controller.

01:34:46.000 I don't know any of the systems.

01:34:48.000 I don't know any of the airports.

01:34:49.000 I'm from the other side of the country.

01:34:50.000 I didn't even know Van Nuys was in Southern California.

01:34:53.000 I thought it was in Northern California.

01:34:55.000 I'm in there studying my ass off because in my mind, I'm like, I can't let this man down.

01:35:00.000 That's the scale right there. 0.67

01:35:01.000 I can't let this man down.

01:35:03.000 That's, I think, with today's dollars, probably.

01:35:05.000 Right.

01:35:06.000 I was an ATC 9, so you get that IX 9 or whatever.

01:35:10.000 I was a 9, and so I came in.

01:35:13.000 I would have been a $73,262 and add 20% to that.

01:35:19.000 With all the incentive pays and everything else, add 20% to that.

01:35:22.000 Okay.

01:35:23.000 That's pretty good.

01:35:23.000 When I finished, right, so you gotta, like, you gotta, I finished, I was ATC 11, and I was...

01:35:34.000 So right there where, okay, okay.

01:35:35.000 Yeah.

01:35:36.000 And I was, not TMC, not, go down some more, where are the controllers at?

01:35:41.000 I don't see the controllers on here, I'm...

01:35:42.000 Oh, there it is, I'm sorry.

01:35:44.000 Go back up to the top.

01:35:45.000 CPC, yeah.

01:35:46.000 So I was between that 164, 172 base rate.

01:35:50.000 Okay, you were in that range.

01:35:52.000 Is the 12 a managerial position?

01:35:55.000 12 is just the type of facility.

01:35:57.000 Miami Towers are 12.

01:35:58.000 Miami centers are 12.

01:36:00.000 That's like the facility level.

01:36:01.000 Okay, depends on where you work.

01:36:03.000 Okay, okay.

01:36:04.000 So 11 is the highest you can get, not assuming facility matters?

01:36:09.000 12.

01:36:10.000 12 is?

01:36:10.000 12 is the highest.

01:36:12.000 Assuming we're not using facility, like you're working anywhere is 11 the highest?

01:36:17.000 Because it seems to me like you can only hit a 12 depending on the facility that you're in.

01:36:20.000 Right, so you have to go to...

01:36:22.000 So you're thinking of steps in GS. Yeah.

01:36:25.000 ATC is different.

01:36:26.000 The facility is 12, so your pay is going to be under 12 for that facility.

01:36:31.000 Which means more stressful, more responsibility, etc.

01:36:34.000 So with the GS scale, anything over 13 is a managerial position.

01:36:37.000 Yeah, you got those steps.

01:36:38.000 Yeah.

01:36:38.000 So FAA has their own pay for managers, but it's basically the same thing.

01:36:43.000 It's just they give them an extra 20%, I think, or 8% on top of it.

01:36:45.000 Okay, so they're on that same scale too.

01:36:47.000 So a manager can be in 11 or 12.

01:36:49.000 Yeah, even.

01:36:50.000 All the way across.

01:36:50.000 Okay, it depends on, it's based on facility.

01:36:53.000 Yes, all facilities.

01:36:54.000 So if you're a manager of facilities at ATC 8, let's say you're a manager down here in Miami.

01:37:00.000 Yeah, like, there's a small airport down here in South Miami, I forget the name.

01:37:04.000 Opalika? 0.86

01:37:05.000 Yeah.

01:37:05.000 Well, Opalika is private.

01:37:07.000 So let's say you were a Fort Lauderdale executive.

01:37:09.000 That's a small Fort Lauderdale executive.

01:37:11.000 You guys will be flying out of here pretty soon with the race. 0.99

01:37:13.000 Y'all are going to be private jet.

01:37:15.000 Yes, sir!

01:37:16.000 Even if we did, I ain't doing it.

01:37:18.000 Yes, you are!

01:37:19.000 I think there are eights.

01:37:21.000 It's not worth it.

01:37:22.000 Yeah, I think there are eights.

01:37:23.000 I think there are ATC-8s.

01:37:24.000 So you would be ATC-8 manager, and then you could be at the top step of ATC-8 would be like the highest rate, and then like the entry level would be down.

01:37:32.000 Interesting.

01:37:32.000 So in the air traffic controller world, you're paid based off the facility that you work.

01:37:36.000 Yes.

01:37:37.000 And I'm assuming that facility, depending on how stressful it is, how many planes come in, volume, et cetera, that dictates how much you get paid.

01:37:43.000 Yes.

01:37:44.000 Okay.

01:37:45.000 Interesting.

01:37:45.000 Yes.

01:37:46.000 And then it's one of those things where as you go, so let's say you were a controller at Miami.

01:37:52.000 Yeah.

01:37:52.000 You're making ATC 12 pay.

01:37:54.000 Now you want to be a supervisor, you know what I mean, at Fort Lauderdale Executive.

01:37:59.000 Yeah.

01:37:59.000 Well, you still stay in your band.

01:38:01.000 So you will go to the absolute top of the band at the ATC 8.

01:38:05.000 Wow.

01:38:05.000 Okay.

01:38:06.000 And then they'll throw a little bit on top. 0.97

01:38:08.000 Okay.

01:38:09.000 Tamiami.

01:38:09.000 That's the other part I was trying to think of.

01:38:10.000 Tamiami down south.

01:38:11.000 Okay.

01:38:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:38:12.000 That's what I was thinking about.

01:38:13.000 So you go down to 10 Miami.

01:38:15.000 I think 10 Miami is like a six or seven.

01:38:17.000 Okay.

01:38:18.000 And there are tricks in there as far as pay.

01:38:21.000 You go someplace and maybe go through training but not make it, but they'll let you keep the pay raises and you go back to your other place.

01:38:26.000 You know what I mean?

01:38:27.000 Interesting.

01:38:27.000 Very, very interesting.

01:38:28.000 When you look at it, it was like, this must have been made by the union, which it was, because it's like, this is so beneficial to the workers.

01:38:35.000 To the employees, yeah.

01:38:36.000 So remember I told you Ronald Reagan fired their traffic controllers, right?

01:38:39.000 Yeah, in the 80s you said there was a strike.

01:38:41.000 No, not in the 80s.

01:38:42.000 In the 80s it was a strike.

01:38:43.000 Ronald Reagan fired the air traffic controllers.

01:38:44.000 A lot of them got hired back whoever was still alive and could do it when I came in.

01:38:48.000 So I got hired in with guys who got fired.

01:38:50.000 So I show up at Van Nuys my first day.

01:38:53.000 There's a bunch of controllers, like eight of us, six of us or eight of us or whatever.

01:38:56.000 One of them got fired out of Van Nuys in the 80s.

01:38:59.000 Okay.

01:39:00.000 There was a guy that worked there that was a scab across the picket line.

01:39:03.000 Okay.

01:39:04.000 So, you got this guy who got fired back then and lost out on all his money for all his time.

01:39:08.000 Now he's back.

01:39:09.000 And he's standing next to, working next to the guy who replaced him.

01:39:12.000 Okay.

01:39:13.000 By crossing the picket line and all this kind of stuff, right?

01:39:15.000 Wow.

01:39:15.000 Boy, it was scab, just scab, that every day.

01:39:17.000 Them dudes ready to go to blows like every single day.

01:39:19.000 Now, what's a scab?

01:39:20.000 A scab is a person who crosses the picket line. 0.99

01:39:22.000 So you're like...

01:39:24.000 Remember when the NFL went on strike way back in the day and they bring in other football players to go play as NFL players?

01:39:30.000 Replacements.

01:39:31.000 Replacements.

01:39:32.000 And then when it strikes over, they fire all the replacements and bring back the big names.

01:39:34.000 So...

01:39:35.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:39:36.000 Okay, so Scab is someone who basically said, fuck the picket line, I'm gonna go ahead and work, and I'll take the less pay. 0.98

01:39:41.000 I'm cool with it. 0.99

01:39:41.000 Or whatever the case may be. 0.99

01:39:42.000 Yeah, which, okay, I can see why they get pissed off, because that directly messes their ability up to have leverage.

01:39:47.000 Okay.

01:39:47.000 So this new guy came in, all his time, Vietnam vet, crusty old dude, these white dudes.

01:39:52.000 I'm sitting back like, this white boy's going at it. 0.80

01:39:55.000 Yeah.

01:39:55.000 And I'm sitting there like, I wonder if anybody's going to get shot.

01:39:57.000 I don't think they're going to go that far.

01:39:59.000 So it's like they kept the replacements.

01:40:01.000 Yes.

01:40:01.000 So they kept the replacements and they kept the people that protested.

01:40:04.000 All them years later.

01:40:06.000 Volatile.

01:40:06.000 Bro.

01:40:07.000 Yeah.

01:40:07.000 I loved it.

01:40:08.000 Yeah.

01:40:09.000 I was in there watching it.

01:40:10.000 Every day was drama.

01:40:11.000 Why is it popcorn, bro?

01:40:12.000 Because you're on neither side.

01:40:14.000 I care less.

01:40:14.000 You're a new hire.

01:40:15.000 Yeah.

01:40:15.000 You're a new hire.

01:40:15.000 I didn't cross the picking line.

01:40:16.000 Yeah.

01:40:17.000 And I came into all the new money.

01:40:18.000 So dude got fired.

01:40:21.000 And then everything they wanted, they got all of them years later.

01:40:25.000 So luckily he got in and he got the benefits from being brave enough to strike and fight.

01:40:29.000 So would you say that those strikes are what led directly to the good benefits that air traffic controllers have now?

01:40:34.000 100%.

01:40:34.000 That strike broke the union.

01:40:36.000 The union back then was called PACO. It broke that union and a new union emerged.

01:40:40.000 It was called NACA, National Air Traffic Controls Association.

01:40:43.000 And NACA was able to get everything that PACO tried to get and more.

01:40:48.000 Gotcha.

01:40:49.000 Now, when did you retire from air traffic controlling?

01:40:51.000 I've been retired four years now.

01:40:53.000 Okay, so you're obviously still aware of how it works in the modern. 0.90

01:40:56.000 It's not like you were air traffic control in the fucking 70s and things have changed drastically. 0.56

01:41:00.000 So, you got in through the military. 0.90

01:41:03.000 Let's say someone doesn't have military experience like you do, right?

01:41:06.000 How would they go ahead and go about becoming an air traffic controller?

01:41:09.000 It's funny you ask.

01:41:11.000 So, all you gotta do...

01:41:13.000 Is applied because every now and then, back in the day, they would have these open hires.

01:41:17.000 Kind of like going to work for the post office or something like that.

01:41:20.000 It's a government job, right?

01:41:21.000 They open the job up.

01:41:23.000 USAJobs?

01:41:24.000 USAJobs.gov.

01:41:24.000 Let's go ahead and walk the people through it.

01:41:26.000 Go USAJobs real quick.

01:41:27.000 USAJobs.gov.

01:41:27.000 Let's go ahead and show them how to do this.

01:41:29.000 USAJobs.gov.

01:41:30.000 Money Monday, guys.

01:41:31.000 And 2152 is the series.

01:41:33.000 Y'all know Myers always talked about series, right?

01:41:35.000 You were 1811, right?

01:41:36.000 Yeah, 1811.

01:41:37.000 So it was 2152.

01:41:38.000 2152.

01:41:39.000 There it is.

01:41:40.000 Air traffic control.

01:41:43.000 And there it is.

01:41:44.000 So right now, there's an open bid, which a bid is a job posting for air traffic control specialists.

01:41:49.000 That one right there.

01:41:50.000 You must have experience to bid that one.

01:41:54.000 For terminal?

01:41:55.000 Yes.

01:41:55.000 They're looking for people who are like former controllers, maybe in the military, working for private air traffic control firms.

01:42:01.000 They have the schooling or whatever.

01:42:02.000 They're looking that you have to have experience.

01:42:05.000 Okay.

01:42:06.000 That's not the job opening that I'm telling you guys about.

01:42:09.000 Quarter one.

01:42:11.000 There'll be a posting for off-the-street hires to become an air traffic controller.

01:42:15.000 And quarter one is January of next year?

01:42:17.000 January, February, March, somewhere in there.

01:42:19.000 It's not open now, I see.

01:42:20.000 No, it's not going to be open now.

01:42:21.000 It's only these two things that are open right now?

01:42:22.000 Scroll down.

01:42:25.000 And then you'll see a lot of postings for like supervisor jobs, like transferring, enter, FAA. It's all kind of stuff.

01:42:30.000 There's always tons of jobs.

01:42:32.000 There it is right there.

01:42:33.000 Air Traffic Control Special, CPC. But for that one, you have to have experience.

01:42:37.000 Okay.

01:42:38.000 Where's one that's entry level that they don't need any experience that they can apply for?

01:42:40.000 They won't show it until they post it.

01:42:41.000 Everything on there is an active post.

01:42:43.000 Oh, yeah.

01:42:43.000 Okay.

01:42:43.000 So you need experience for all these positions right now?

01:42:46.000 Right now.

01:42:46.000 Especially that one right there.

01:42:47.000 So you'll see, like, there's a job for terminal here.

01:42:50.000 These are for transfers.

01:42:51.000 So, you know, somebody from L.A. can apply to come out here to Miami or Chicago or whatever.

01:42:57.000 So, guys, the thing is, what we need you to do is go on here and look at everything that's required.

01:43:02.000 Like, you know, because all the SF forms and all that's going to be part of the package, but you got to get your resumes ready, be ready to post all that stuff.

01:43:10.000 Because when this posting opens, Bro, they'll drop it like at midnight on the night that they do it.

01:43:16.000 And, bro, if you're not in there within the first five minutes, you're not getting in there.

01:43:20.000 Wow.

01:43:21.000 People are sitting up at midnight waiting for that thing to come out.

01:43:23.000 Refresh, refresh, refresh.

01:43:24.000 They just click and they load their stuff up and boom.

01:43:26.000 Yeah.

01:43:27.000 Right?

01:43:27.000 Why are they doing that?

01:43:28.000 Because it's an amazing opportunity.

01:43:30.000 The government pays for all of your training.

01:43:32.000 You get a sign.

01:43:33.000 If you make it through all the training, you get a sign and you're on that pay scale.

01:43:38.000 You start at the bottom, of course.

01:43:39.000 Developmental, you move your way up.

01:43:40.000 But wherever you go...

01:43:42.000 You're going to be making six figures.

01:43:44.000 You're starting at 100 pretty much.

01:43:46.000 Pretty much.

01:43:47.000 Wow.

01:43:47.000 Wherever you go.

01:43:48.000 Out the gate.

01:43:49.000 Out the gate.

01:43:49.000 No college degree.

01:43:51.000 No college degree.

01:43:53.000 What's the training like?

01:43:54.000 So for the audience, so they should be looking for when it comes out, it comes out first quarter, you said, right?

01:43:58.000 Between January to March.

01:44:00.000 So this is what you got to do.

01:44:01.000 Fresh and fit people, you know, our people, council club guys.

01:44:06.000 We will know within a few days when that thing is going to come out.

01:44:09.000 You know what's going on in the business.

01:44:12.000 You came out of it.

01:44:13.000 I still know what's going on in the business.

01:44:14.000 They'll put the word out.

01:44:16.000 They'll say, hey, on this date, we're going to drop the notice.

01:44:20.000 All your stuff should be done. 0.99

01:44:23.000 You're up at midnight waiting for that shit to hit. 1.00

01:44:25.000 Bam! 1.00

01:44:26.000 We have a guy that rocks with us up in Tampa.

01:44:29.000 I started a group up there before Castle Club.

01:44:31.000 We call ourselves the New Templars.

01:44:32.000 A lot of FNF guys.

01:44:34.000 We've been working together for over a year now.

01:44:37.000 Shout out Colonel Sanders and Kuma San. 1.00

01:44:39.000 There it is!

01:44:40.000 So one of our guys was digging holes, doing hot labor outside, moving AC units and stuff like that.

01:44:48.000 We made videos.

01:44:49.000 Me and my buddy Jay Swans, we served in the army together.

01:44:51.000 We both wear traffic controllers.

01:44:52.000 We made two or three videos and posted it on our thing.

01:44:55.000 He saw the video.

01:44:58.000 He followed all the steps in the video.

01:45:00.000 Got hired.

01:45:01.000 He goes to Oklahoma next month.

01:45:02.000 Wow.

01:45:03.000 So no more working in the heat.

01:45:05.000 No more.

01:45:06.000 He's like going to Oklahoma City.

01:45:07.000 He's going to be in air traffic control.

01:45:08.000 Now he has to get through the training.

01:45:09.000 Training is intense.

01:45:10.000 How long is the training?

01:45:12.000 I don't because I never went through that program.

01:45:14.000 Oh, because you already had your military experience.

01:45:16.000 So don't take my word on this, guys.

01:45:19.000 I'll get an answer for you.

01:45:20.000 But I want to say it's three months or so.

01:45:24.000 Okay.

01:45:25.000 All right, roughly 90 days.

01:45:26.000 The vast majority of air traffic control is on-the-job training.

01:45:29.000 So you have to go through, learn the basics.

01:45:31.000 This is what the school teaches you.

01:45:34.000 You know, how to talk, you know, the phonetic alphabet, you know, what the legs of a pattern is, what a pattern is.

01:45:40.000 You know what I mean? 0.98

01:45:41.000 What the fuck is an airplane? 0.98

01:45:42.000 You got to learn this basic stuff. 0.99

01:45:44.000 Airspace, you know.

01:45:46.000 I think it's important to explain to people.

01:45:48.000 So, like, what does...

01:45:50.000 Air traffic controls specifically entail, like, what is the purpose of it?

01:45:55.000 Because some people might be like, what the fuck are these guys, like, what does it do?

01:45:58.000 Why is it important to society? 0.97

01:46:00.000 The primary mission of air traffic controllers, right, their job is to prevent collisions in the system.

01:46:06.000 That's what air traffic controllers do. 0.99

01:46:07.000 It is the air traffic controller's job to keep planes from flying into shit. 0.98

01:46:11.000 Other airplanes, mountains, buildings, this sort of thing. 0.89

01:46:14.000 So during that three-month period, roughly, are you getting paid the whole time?

01:46:18.000 Yes.

01:46:19.000 Okay, awesome.

01:46:19.000 You're getting paid.

01:46:20.000 They're paying for your lodging.

01:46:21.000 They're paying for your food.

01:46:22.000 You're getting per diem.

01:46:23.000 Where's the base at where you train, isn't it?

01:46:25.000 This is in Oklahoma City.

01:46:27.000 Okay, it's in Oklahoma.

01:46:28.000 For everybody, you got to go there.

01:46:29.000 Just like a police academy.

01:46:31.000 Y'all go to Oklahoma City.

01:46:32.000 Once you make it out of Oklahoma City, you get assigned to an airport, you go to that airport, and then your real training begins.

01:46:37.000 Where it's like on-the-job training, you're actually talking to the airplanes, and then once you get through that...

01:46:42.000 You probably have an FTO, a field training officer, that you're under their auspice the whole time.

01:46:46.000 The whole time.

01:46:47.000 Other controllers get paid to train people, and it's really scary because you're actually, the way the system is set up, when you plug in and talk on your microphones or wherever, You plug in together, and your controller, who's the trainer, has the ability to override the trainee.

01:47:03.000 So while you're talking, if I need to say something, I'll say it, and I'll override you.

01:47:07.000 So you're over here talking, hey, Mr.

01:47:09.000 Airplane, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:47:10.000 And then I'll jump in, you know me, Delta 211, heavy turn left, heading 280, climbing maintain 3000. 1.00

01:47:15.000 And it's like, oh shit, that's what you should have been saying, motherfucker. 1.00

01:47:18.000 That's what we're saying after we unkey. 1.00

01:47:20.000 Like, why are you worried about this?

01:47:21.000 You be worried about that?

01:47:22.000 Yeah.

01:47:22.000 That's the real intense part.

01:47:24.000 Mm.

01:47:24.000 And that's the only way you get trained.

01:47:28.000 You have to actually work it.

01:47:30.000 Now, that's the hardest part of the training.

01:47:32.000 You can watch out.

01:47:34.000 And if you watch out, game over.

01:47:36.000 So you gotta work hard.

01:47:38.000 And I don't think people understand how important this job is.

01:47:40.000 Guys, when you get on an airplane, the chances of you...

01:47:43.000 Basically, the pilots, we give pilots a lot of credit because they're like, oh my god, they're flying a plane, that's so hard.

01:47:49.000 They're operating blind, guys.

01:47:50.000 They're listening to an air traffic controller tell them, Okay, you know, adjust your route three degrees north, whatever the fuck, or west, whatever. 0.98

01:47:58.000 You could probably... 0.99

01:48:00.000 If you ever want to hear this shit, go to LiveATC. 1.00

01:48:02.000 Go to LiveATC. 1.00

01:48:04.000 I think it might be.com or.org or something like that.

01:48:07.000 And you can just listen to whatever airports you want to listen.

01:48:09.000 You can listen to it.

01:48:10.000 We can listen to Miami right now if we wanted to.

01:48:12.000 And you can hear, and it is a foreign language.

01:48:15.000 Yeah.

01:48:15.000 We have to teach you the language.

01:48:17.000 So, what happens if one day I'm going to work, had a rough weekend, I might be a little bit high, and I messed up the wrong thing, wrong line?

01:48:27.000 What does that do?

01:48:28.000 Okay, so you're going to prison because you said you were high coming to work as an air traffic controller, so...

01:48:34.000 Open up, FBI. They come to see your ass. 1.00

01:48:36.000 You can't do that. 1.00

01:48:38.000 You get random drug testing all the time.

01:48:40.000 You can't come to work drunk.

01:48:41.000 You can't come to work high.

01:48:42.000 You got to be on point. 1.00

01:48:44.000 Again, they teach you all this shit. 1.00

01:48:45.000 So here's the thing. 1.00

01:48:46.000 What happens when an air traffic controller makes a mistake?

01:48:48.000 That's the question, basically.

01:48:52.000 It gets reviewed.

01:48:54.000 So let's say the air traffic controller is doing his job, and all of a sudden, something happens.

01:49:00.000 Two airplanes come together.

01:49:01.000 They fall out the sky.

01:49:04.000 That's the absolute worst.

01:49:07.000 So, yep, that's it.

01:49:08.000 You can listen to any airports you want to listen to, and you can hear air traffic.

01:49:12.000 There are all those towers.

01:49:13.000 You can listen to any tower you want.

01:49:15.000 Ground control, ATIS, all that kind of stuff.

01:49:17.000 We're not going to get into the weeds.

01:49:18.000 That's just different frequencies and different areas of responsibility.

01:49:21.000 The ground controller is talking to the airplanes moving around on the ground.

01:49:24.000 The local controller is talking to airplanes in the sky.

01:49:26.000 Then you have TRACON controllers.

01:49:28.000 We can't even begin to get into all that.

01:49:31.000 It would take us eight hours to get into that.

01:49:33.000 But to your point, two airplanes come together, there's loss of life, massive, massive problems, right?

01:49:37.000 So what happens?

01:49:38.000 The NTSB gets involved.

01:49:39.000 FAA management gets involved.

01:49:41.000 They're going to figure out what happened.

01:49:42.000 Everything's recorded, obviously.

01:49:44.000 They're going to go back and listen to the tapes.

01:49:46.000 They're going to make sure you did everything you were supposed to do, and they're going to make sure the pilots did everything they were supposed to do.

01:49:50.000 That's why those black boxes are so important and stuff like that.

01:49:54.000 If they find that you made a mistake, but it was just doing the course and scope of your duties, it wasn't malicious, you know, there's going to be some retraining involved.

01:50:03.000 That's if you even want to continue.

01:50:05.000 I mean, it's really hard to understand, like, hey, man, I ran these two airplanes together and, you know, 100 people are gone.

01:50:12.000 You got to live with that.

01:50:13.000 Has that ever happened before?

01:50:16.000 Let's just say I've dealt with every aspect of air traffic control. 0.99

01:50:18.000 Damn. 0.99

01:50:19.000 Right? 0.99

01:50:20.000 I'm here to tell you.

01:50:22.000 It was easier for me as a soldier and it was easier for me in the streets to deal with loss of life than it was as an air traffic controller.

01:50:30.000 I don't know why it hits different. 0.91

01:50:34.000 I'm proud of what I do and I gave my all and when shit goes wrong, that's the ultimate ill. 0.73

01:50:43.000 A lot of times when there are incidents like that, it's not the controller's fault.

01:50:50.000 It really isn't.

01:50:51.000 The controller is the last line of defense.

01:50:54.000 So I can tell you hundreds of stories of how we pulled them apart. 0.98

01:50:59.000 Oh shit, what is he doing? 0.99

01:51:00.000 You tell a guy, literally, you tell a guy to turn left, he turns right. 1.00

01:51:03.000 You tell a guy to climb to an altitude, he starts descending.

01:51:06.000 It's 3D tests.

01:51:07.000 So you're constantly scanning, you're doing stuff, you're looking at stuff, okay, he's doing this, he's doing that.

01:51:12.000 Then you look over, like...

01:51:13.000 How many planes are you going over or looking at at any given time?

01:51:16.000 Depends on where you are.

01:51:17.000 Okay.

01:51:18.000 You know, we count the movements.

01:51:21.000 When I was at Van Nuys, 100 hour was pretty much standard.

01:51:25.000 So I'm talking to, you know, 100 movements in, you know, 30 minutes, 40 minutes.

01:51:29.000 You know, so, you know, that's guys coming in and laying, that's guys taking off, that's guys flying through, transitioning, and you're tracking all that.

01:51:35.000 That's just at a VFR tower.

01:51:36.000 When you get to the busier facilities, there's more and more airplanes.

01:51:40.000 Like Atlanta or Dallas?

01:51:41.000 Atlanta, Dallas, LA, Chicago, O'Hare, you know, the common eye.

01:51:45.000 Miami!

01:51:45.000 One of the toughest airports, one of the toughest airspace, I would argue, in the system is right here in Miami.

01:51:52.000 Really?

01:51:53.000 Yeah.

01:51:53.000 Why so?

01:51:54.000 All that fucking rain. 1.00

01:51:56.000 Oh, the rain. 1.00

01:51:57.000 Okay.

01:51:58.000 Polis don't want to fly through storms, baby. 1.00

01:52:00.000 Okay.

01:52:01.000 Yeah, they don't want...

01:52:01.000 Man, summertime?

01:52:03.000 Oh my God.

01:52:03.000 It rains every day, yeah.

01:52:05.000 I've never been more exhausted, more mentally drained than working here in Miami in the tower on a summer day.

01:52:12.000 Wow. 1.00

01:52:12.000 Because you see the weather coming, and the pilots aren't flying through that shit. 1.00

01:52:16.000 And, you know, you got to figure out how to move all these airplanes. 0.99

01:52:18.000 So if you have, let's say it's easy, you got maybe 20 airplanes in the sky.

01:52:22.000 Ah, it's a piece of cake.

01:52:23.000 This is nothing.

01:52:24.000 Now, all of a sudden, three or four nasty thunderstorm sales pop up. 0.99

01:52:30.000 Oh, shit, your workload just went 100x. 0.99

01:52:35.000 100x. 1.00

01:52:35.000 Without even bringing any more airplanes into the scenario. 1.00

01:52:38.000 Because maybe you can use a 30-year airspace.

01:52:42.000 Maybe.

01:52:43.000 Maybe.

01:52:43.000 Because they're not going to fly over there.

01:52:45.000 Yeah.

01:52:46.000 They're not going to fly over there.

01:52:47.000 Because the pilots are blind, essentially.

01:52:49.000 They have equipment, and they can look out the window and see that nasty-ass storm. 1.00

01:52:53.000 I ain't flying through that shit. 0.99

01:52:57.000 And you'll tell them, hey, climate maintain, 4,000. 1.00

01:53:00.000 Negative.

01:53:04.000 So they have the right to refuse your direction.

01:53:09.000 They are ultimately in charge and responsible for that aircraft.

01:53:12.000 If I give them a heading in the altitude, they don't have to take it.

01:53:16.000 So basically, it's almost always the pilot's fault.

01:53:19.000 Not always, but most of the time.

01:53:21.000 Almost now. 0.97

01:53:22.000 There are times when controllers just outright fuck up. 0.98

01:53:25.000 Right?

01:53:25.000 You'll have a controller, just have a mind for it.

01:53:28.000 And just, you know, we're human.

01:53:29.000 They'll just fuck something up and not see it. 0.97

01:53:32.000 And then that's when you get those close calls and stuff like that. 0.95

01:53:34.000 And there's a lot of close calls going on right now.

01:53:36.000 There's a lot of overworked, stressed out air traffic controllers.

01:53:40.000 People are retiring.

01:53:41.000 Yo, I'm not going to lie.

01:53:43.000 Hearing this right now, bro, I'm scared of flying.

01:53:45.000 It's one of the most, I've said it before, air traffic control, the reason why they get paid so much is it's one of the most stressful jobs in America that no one knows about.

01:53:51.000 No one knows about it.

01:53:52.000 It's still the safest form of travel.

01:53:54.000 You know someone who's on the inside.

01:53:56.000 You know, it's like law enforcement, man.

01:53:58.000 How many agents really pull their weapon and actually fire?

01:54:01.000 Oh, rarely.

01:54:01.000 Especially from an 1811 perspective.

01:54:03.000 Way less than local police.

01:54:04.000 Right.

01:54:05.000 And they hardly ever do it.

01:54:06.000 Yeah.

01:54:08.000 Rarely.

01:54:09.000 Rarely.

01:54:09.000 So you're still, it's the safest form of travel.

01:54:12.000 There's so many redundancies built in.

01:54:15.000 We have so much technology now.

01:54:17.000 We see the storms building.

01:54:18.000 We see it.

01:54:18.000 We know.

01:54:19.000 We know that it's about to be some major shit here. 0.99

01:54:21.000 It's still way safer than driving your car. 0.99

01:54:23.000 Way safer.

01:54:23.000 So it's like, let's start moving these airplanes away from this area over here.

01:54:27.000 Let's start getting more controllers. 0.70

01:54:29.000 Let's open up more positions. 0.96

01:54:30.000 Let's start getting our plans together.

01:54:32.000 Air traffic controller is all about planning.

01:54:34.000 It's chess.

01:54:34.000 It's 3D chess.

01:54:35.000 Yeah, I thought about it.

01:54:36.000 If my mom told me what to do, I'd be like, negative.

01:54:40.000 A girl I'm talking to?

01:54:41.000 Negative.

01:54:41.000 That's the way you do it.

01:54:42.000 Yeah, that's the way you do it.

01:54:43.000 Negative.

01:54:44.000 Sorry.

01:54:44.000 Negative.

01:54:45.000 Thank you.

01:54:47.000 Wah, wah, wah.

01:54:48.000 Listen, man.

01:54:49.000 That was funny.

01:54:52.000 Thanks, Rush, for adding your colorful commentary.

01:54:55.000 We could read some chats here.

01:54:56.000 Yeah, we could read some chats here.

01:55:00.000 And what we'll probably do, guys, is obviously, as you guys know, we've got a new segment coming up.

01:55:04.000 We're going to be doing Fresh Fit News for you, ninjas.

01:55:06.000 We've got some topics that we're going to talk about.

01:55:09.000 And then what I'll do is, what I'm thinking is, we'll do a Zoom call.

01:55:12.000 I don't know, say if you can hang out with us after we do that news show.

01:55:16.000 And we'll answer questions and we'll go ahead and get your guys' reactions to the news going on.

01:55:20.000 I think that'll be a good way for us to interact with the cast club members.

01:55:22.000 What do we got here?

01:55:23.000 I appreciate you guys to the and what y'all do.

01:55:27.000 I think he needs to show the end.

01:55:29.000 Okay.

01:55:29.000 Guys, please spell check yourself.

01:55:31.000 Please.

01:55:43.000 Okay, so you did this on a perfect show because Saint is...

01:55:50.000 One of our generals is actually out of Tampa, and Saint actually does a lot of the screening.

01:55:54.000 So, Saint, what's the best way for him to contact you directly?

01:55:56.000 Because he's doing, obviously, he's doing pretty well for himself as a freight business, as a broker.

01:56:02.000 How can he get in contact with you to go ahead and apply as a general for Castle Club?

01:56:05.000 By the way, this was a $100 chat on Castle Club.

01:56:09.000 Saint, what's the best way for him to reach you?

01:56:14.000 Bro, you're just gonna have to jump into the waiting room.

01:56:16.000 Our generals are in there now.

01:56:18.000 We'll post a link.

01:56:19.000 Jump into the waiting room, get verified, and then hit me up.

01:56:23.000 Like you'll see, is D.L.Saint on Telegram?

01:56:27.000 Telegram.

01:56:27.000 So just hit me up and ask anybody reaches out to me.

01:56:30.000 I will get back to you.

01:56:31.000 Sometimes it takes a little while, ninjas, because it's a lot of y'all hitting me up with a whole lot of questions, right?

01:56:37.000 A whole lot.

01:56:38.000 And listen, that's why I'm here.

01:56:40.000 That's why Myron asked me to come on.

01:56:42.000 Myron Fresh was like, hey, help us set this thing up.

01:56:44.000 And that's what we're doing.

01:56:46.000 We have our Tampa Generals.

01:56:48.000 Actually, Wes, Colonel Sanders.

01:56:49.000 Actually, we made him Tampa General so I could take care of the other stuff.

01:56:53.000 Yeah.

01:56:53.000 And I did that on purpose.

01:56:55.000 And yo, he's a real one.

01:56:56.000 My boy!

01:56:57.000 Yeah.

01:56:57.000 Colonel Sanders, he got promoted.

01:56:59.000 He's General Sanders now.

01:57:01.000 Woo! 0.99

01:57:01.000 Okay, what else we got here? 0.99

01:57:04.000 Rico Savage, if you like being a brokie, if you like simple for women and paying for box, if you like being alone and not being part of a community of brotherhood, if you like not being held accountable, then you shouldn't join Cows Club. 0.87

01:57:13.000 DMVCC, we up.

01:57:14.000 Keep leaning from the front.

01:57:15.000 Shout out to you, Rico Savage.

01:57:16.000 I appreciate that, man.

01:57:17.000 Hawaii General here.

01:57:18.000 That's from Tommy.

01:57:19.000 Shout out to DL, leading from the front WCows Club.

01:57:21.000 Yes, Tommy.

01:57:22.000 And that's one of our generals out of Honolulu.

01:57:24.000 He's actually in the military as well.

01:57:25.000 Air Force.

01:57:25.000 Navy.

01:57:26.000 Navy.

01:57:27.000 I'm sorry.

01:57:27.000 Navy.

01:57:28.000 And his specialty is actually helping guys with getting into the military and making sure that they negotiate for the best contracts and understanding their value, right?

01:57:35.000 So especially in today's volatile time, we should definitely have a conversation with him as well.

01:57:39.000 That's what we should talk about, picking your job.

01:57:41.000 That's a Tommy question 100%.

01:57:43.000 Yeah, that is.

01:57:44.000 I was on live chat with Jay and other truckers today.

01:57:47.000 He's a really good man and gave good advice on how to improve your trucking career.

01:57:50.000 Thank you FNF for bringing him on Money Monday.

01:57:51.000 We got y'all, man.

01:57:52.000 Yep.

01:57:53.000 Guys, I'm telling you, man, we're going to be bringing these guys on that are good in their fields to help you guys with getting these jobs because, like I said before, not everyone is built to be an entrepreneur.

01:58:00.000 Not all of you guys are going to be influencers making money on the internet.

01:58:03.000 A lot of you guys are going to have to get regular, real jobs, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that because that is how the United States was built.

01:58:08.000 That is the backbone of our country, and there's nothing wrong with these jobs, man. 0.99

01:58:13.000 And you'll make more than a lot of these college grads with stupid degrees. 0.99

01:58:16.000 Thank you, gentlemen. 1.00

01:58:16.000 These Money Mondays are undefeated, consistently providing us the best financial content for free. 1.00

01:58:20.000 99, no BS, absolutely.

01:58:22.000 Shout out to my guys, the first fit money clips. 0.99

01:58:24.000 Let's spread that value across the fucking world. 0.99

01:58:25.000 We got you, man, Zanderman. 0.99

01:58:26.000 Hey, DLC in the house, I didn't know you were in the Tampa area.

01:58:29.000 I live in the Tampa area.

01:58:30.000 To my guy, definitely want to link up.

01:58:31.000 I've been looking for like-minded brothers in this space for a long time in my area.

01:58:34.000 Got you, Uncle Luke, 1980.

01:58:36.000 What is the worst experience you have had as an ATC, air traffic controller?

01:58:39.000 That's from M2. I've experienced the worst you're going to experience with an air traffic controller.

01:58:45.000 And even going through the process, even getting clear, you're talking years of litigation, you're talking, you know, going through depositions. 0.89

01:58:54.000 Oh shit, did you have a, maybe not you, but like maybe was someone in your tower involved in like a collision? 0.99

01:59:00.000 I had to go through that shit, I just told you. 1.00

01:59:02.000 Like, you personally. 1.00

01:59:03.000 It's me!

01:59:03.000 You were the one behind it.

01:59:04.000 I'm sitting there, what, they're typing away. 1.00

01:59:06.000 You know what that's like in those depositions, like just beating up on your ass? 0.99

01:59:10.000 No, but I'm saying, like, who was the person that was, like, responsible for the... 0.99

01:59:13.000 So you directly. 0.99

01:59:14.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:59:15.000 Okay. 1.00

01:59:16.000 Because normally if an incident happens, they bring everybody in.

01:59:18.000 Everyone's getting questioned.

01:59:19.000 Everyone's getting looked at.

01:59:20.000 Well, they know who did it because everything is there.

01:59:21.000 And I was trying to use code, guys. 0.97

01:59:23.000 I'm just going to come out and say, yeah, I was working when some real bad shit happened. 0.98

01:59:26.000 People lost their life. 0.98

01:59:27.000 And, um...

01:59:28.000 I went through the process.

01:59:30.000 I've been around when, been involved.

01:59:32.000 Like you said, I've been in charge sometimes.

01:59:34.000 As an air traffic controller, when they don't have a supervisor, the controller will have to actually be in charge and do the management duties.

01:59:40.000 It's called controller in charge.

01:59:41.000 You get paid extra for that.

01:59:42.000 So sometimes you're plugged in and you're working.

01:59:45.000 And I'm sitting there, you know, normally it's the more senior guys, and I'm sitting there and something might happen.

01:59:50.000 Well, the first person they're going to come to is you.

01:59:52.000 Oh.

01:59:53.000 Who was in charge?

01:59:54.000 So even if you weren't the one that gave the faulty instructions, they're coming for you.

01:59:58.000 Who was in charge?

01:59:59.000 Oh, shame.

02:00:00.000 So you have...

02:00:00.000 Let's say you have five air traffic controllers working.

02:00:02.000 It's real busy.

02:00:03.000 Yeah.

02:00:04.000 You're responsible for all five of them.

02:00:06.000 Yeah.

02:00:06.000 So I'm listening to Fresh because Fresh is working all these airplanes in the sky.

02:00:09.000 It's a lot going on.

02:00:10.000 I'm paying attention to what's going on.

02:00:11.000 But Mo's over there giving out clearances.

02:00:14.000 He's just talking to people.

02:00:15.000 They're just typing out stuff.

02:00:16.000 Take this route.

02:00:17.000 Take that route.

02:00:18.000 Yep.

02:00:18.000 Eight hours later...

02:00:19.000 Nah, fuck that. 1.00

02:00:20.000 Twelve hours later... 1.00

02:00:21.000 That was a bad clearance.

02:00:23.000 The pilot got in trouble in some other state.

02:00:25.000 They tracked it all the way back to Moe, and I was in charge.

02:00:29.000 Hey, Saint, what up?

02:00:31.000 You know, we just had this deal.

02:00:32.000 We used to call him a deal of some operational area involving Moe.

02:00:36.000 You know, what happened?

02:00:39.000 Right?

02:00:39.000 It's like the next day.

02:00:41.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

02:00:42.000 What day?

02:00:43.000 Moe when? 0.98

02:00:44.000 You know, now you gotta go listen to tapes, you gotta go look at the logs, who was in what position, gotta go figure it out.

02:00:49.000 They're like, sure enough, Moe's over there talking shit, gave it wrong, accidentally gave it wrong, read the wrong route, and the pilot read it back to him and, you know, it was like, yeah, that's wrong.

02:00:58.000 So, in this situation where you were pulled in for this, like, you were the manager during that shift, I guess, and something happened. 0.96

02:01:05.000 I've been through that.

02:01:06.000 Oh, you've done both.

02:01:07.000 Okay.

02:01:07.000 I've been the guy.

02:01:09.000 Okay.

02:01:09.000 I've been the guy when something happened but no one got hurt, but it was like a system fail.

02:01:13.000 I've been the guy to save stuff.

02:01:15.000 Like, oh, I've been the guy training.

02:01:17.000 Same thing.

02:01:17.000 You're training someone.

02:01:18.000 So I'm training you.

02:01:20.000 You know what I mean?

02:01:20.000 So, you know...

02:01:22.000 We're over here training.

02:01:23.000 All right, Myron, you're working ground control.

02:01:25.000 Just do your thing, blah, blah, blah.

02:01:27.000 And then, you know, one of the controllers is like, hey, Saint, look at this.

02:01:30.000 She flashes me.

02:01:31.000 I'm like, hey, that's whatever. 1.00

02:01:32.000 And meanwhile, you got airplanes fucking on the runway, fucked up. 1.00

02:01:36.000 That's me. 1.00

02:01:37.000 I should have caught that.

02:01:38.000 Gotcha.

02:01:38.000 Right now, I'm just being funny guys.

02:01:40.000 So you've been on all angles.

02:01:41.000 You've been the guy on charge.

02:01:43.000 You've been the person that made the mistake.

02:01:44.000 You've been maybe a witness to it.

02:01:47.000 I've been training the person who made the mistake.

02:01:49.000 You know what I mean?

02:01:50.000 I've been all of that.

02:01:51.000 So if anyone here is an air traffic controller and you guys get into some situations, they could probably guide you through it because that whole process, whenever you get involved with You know, internal affairs or some mistake with the government, man. 0.97

02:02:03.000 It's a very lengthy process, guys, and it's a pain in the ass, and you need someone to help you navigate that.

02:02:06.000 Did you have to go ahead and retain lawyers? 0.98

02:02:08.000 The government does that for you.

02:02:10.000 If you are working within the course and scope of your duties, you're okay.

02:02:14.000 But, remember you was like, oh, I came to work high.

02:02:18.000 If something happened, I came to work high.

02:02:20.000 No one got in trouble.

02:02:20.000 No one died.

02:02:21.000 It was just a procedure thing.

02:02:23.000 The government's not gonna protect you.

02:02:25.000 Right.

02:02:25.000 You're not supposed to be high, so now you gotta get your own attorney.

02:02:28.000 Yep.

02:02:28.000 And guess what?

02:02:29.000 Prosecutors are coming to see you.

02:02:30.000 I ain't joking.

02:02:31.000 The FBI come knocking on the door.

02:02:32.000 The U.S. Marshals gonna come see you.

02:02:34.000 Because what you did is illegal.

02:02:35.000 100% illegal.

02:02:36.000 They're gonna come see you.

02:02:37.000 So you have to...

02:02:38.000 All that plays in, you know what I mean?

02:02:41.000 And as someone was saying, like, I've seen a lot of plans go down.

02:02:43.000 Not a lot, but I've seen more than you will because I was a part of that world.

02:02:48.000 Yeah.

02:02:49.000 Still, the safest way to travel, guys.

02:02:51.000 Don't be scared.

02:02:52.000 Don't go John Madden on this and riding buses all over the country.

02:02:55.000 You know what I mean?

02:02:56.000 He never would fly.

02:02:57.000 John Madden never flew.

02:02:58.000 He took buses everywhere.

02:03:00.000 So every Monday night football game, he would go from LA to New York on a bus.

02:03:03.000 Wow.

02:03:05.000 You had to leave early.

02:03:06.000 Right after the game. 1.00

02:03:09.000 That's a fucking three, four day drive easy on a bus, maybe a week on a bus with all the stops and shit. 0.99

02:03:15.000 I've seen all kinds of stuff in the tower, man. 0.99

02:03:16.000 I remember once I was working in the tower and I looked down on the tarmac, it was like a small VFR tower, and it was like this girl in a bikini, she was doing the photo shoot, and she bent down, the guy was taking pictures, and then she moved the bikini out the way.

02:03:30.000 Down there with the little coota coota. 1.00

02:03:32.000 Moved it out of the way.

02:03:33.000 And the pilot was going by, and it was like some Gulfstream.

02:03:35.000 I'm like, ah, Gulfstream 665.

02:03:37.000 Take a look to your left.

02:03:39.000 He's like, looks out, and he was like, we love you guys.

02:03:43.000 So that's like the fun part of it.

02:03:45.000 We're just having fun.

02:03:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:03:47.000 Okay.

02:03:48.000 Where we at here?

02:03:51.000 He'll say, I'm 24.

02:03:53.000 Is this a good age to get into this career?

02:03:54.000 I already have a union job, 42 per hour, but work is slow.

02:03:58.000 Well, I stay where you are, man.

02:04:00.000 Depending on what you're doing, you got a union job, 42 an hour is good.

02:04:03.000 You're probably getting good OT, depending on what you're doing.

02:04:06.000 Because there's no...

02:04:07.000 Well, if you can try air traffic, and if it doesn't work, go back to your union job, then yeah, I would say go ahead and give it a shot.

02:04:13.000 You're looking for something to do.

02:04:14.000 It's very challenging.

02:04:15.000 A lot of people just looking for that challenge.

02:04:17.000 Yeah.

02:04:18.000 But I don't know, bro. 0.99

02:04:19.000 I'm like, I'd rather just keep that union job, bro, and do what this man says and go buy some fucking property. 0.99

02:04:25.000 There you go. 0.99

02:04:27.000 Shout out to this content.

02:04:28.000 Shout out to you guys.

02:04:29.000 It's BigTingsAguan.

02:04:31.000 Oh yeah, this is Jay.

02:04:32.000 Just letting y'all know, it's been absolutely crazy since the pod.

02:04:34.000 I've made a decision on being one of the generals from my region.

02:04:37.000 Shout out to you guys.

02:04:38.000 Okay.

02:04:38.000 Shout out to you, bro.

02:04:39.000 And he's out there in Birmingham.

02:04:40.000 We're going to make it happen.

02:04:43.000 We're going to set it all up.

02:04:44.000 We just don't have anybody in Birmingham, but we're going to set it all up.

02:04:47.000 Myron gave me an order.

02:04:48.000 I don't just give orders, I follow them, so we're going to make it happen.

02:04:50.000 Appreciate that, man.

02:04:51.000 Thank you.

02:04:51.000 So yeah, Jay, we'll get you on as the Birmingham general out of Alabama.

02:04:56.000 Give us a week.

02:04:56.000 So give us some time.

02:04:57.000 DL, does the U.S. court ruling and fine on Boeing get in the way of them operating at airports nationwide?

02:05:04.000 Also, how do they teach to handle emergency landing scenarios?

02:05:08.000 Okay, so the first one, no. 0.95

02:05:10.000 What's going on with Boeing and what they were doing, that's internal shit between them and the government. 0.98

02:05:15.000 What they were doing was absolute bullshit from my understanding, and I understand how that happens. 0.98

02:05:19.000 You're letting airplanes go out there and you know they're not safe. 0.99

02:05:22.000 I mean, doors are not supposed to fly off the fucking airplanes at 10,000 feet. 0.98

02:05:25.000 That was so... 0.99

02:05:26.000 And again, this is why you want to keep your fucking seatbelt on, people. 1.00

02:05:30.000 While you're flying around, keep your fucking seatbelts on. 1.00

02:05:32.000 So, no, it doesn't affect. 0.99

02:05:35.000 The thing is, the FAA just might say, all right, we're not going to let Boeing operate or whatever, but that has nothing to do with the controllers.

02:05:42.000 We just, they can't go.

02:05:44.000 What was the second half of that question?

02:05:46.000 The emergency scenarios handle emergency landing scenarios.

02:05:49.000 All right, so that's why you train.

02:05:52.000 Yes, and that's why you train.

02:05:53.000 This is why you need on-the-job training.

02:05:55.000 We can sit you down and say, hey, when an emergency happens, you need to get the aircraft full identification number, the type of aircraft, the number of people on board, and how much fuel, right?

02:06:06.000 We can teach you that in training.

02:06:08.000 But when you're sitting there working, you're doing your thing, and some pilot keys up, right?

02:06:12.000 It's just normal operations, right?

02:06:13.000 Everyone's talking like this.

02:06:15.000 United 15 Heavy, Roger, turn left heading 3-3-0.

02:06:17.000 Okay, 330, 915, heavy.

02:06:19.000 Next thing you hear is, we're going down! 1.00

02:06:22.000 You hear that shit sometimes, just like that. 1.00

02:06:24.000 Okay, who the fuck was that? 1.00

02:06:26.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

02:06:27.000 Right, so you're immediately, you're looking at your radar, you're talking to other people, and it's like, okay, Colin Tower, reference going down, say your call sign.

02:06:33.000 You gotta be calm.

02:06:34.000 You can't match their freaking craziness with, they need your voice to be calm.

02:06:39.000 Oh, sorry, yeah, we just lost an engine, this is Cessna 2-2 uniform. 0.73

02:06:43.000 Cessna 2-2 uniform, I didn't, say your position.

02:06:46.000 Identity is a function you do.

02:06:47.000 You push a button and it makes you light up on the screen.

02:06:50.000 So you see the guy identity. 0.99

02:06:51.000 Oh, that motherfucker's up there in Fort Lauderdale's airspace. 0.99

02:06:54.000 I gotta keep him. 1.00

02:06:55.000 So this is how you're trained.

02:06:58.000 You gotta get all that information out of him.

02:07:00.000 I need your full call sign.

02:07:01.000 How many on board?

02:07:02.000 I know what type of emergency or the type of emergency.

02:07:04.000 Right?

02:07:05.000 All that stuff.

02:07:06.000 And then I have to be talking to the controllers up there at Fort Lauderdale on internal lines.

02:07:12.000 Hey, Fort Lauderdale Tower, Miami Tower.

02:07:14.000 Yeah, on the ident.

02:07:15.000 Set the 2-2 uniform, engine out, you know, three miles northeast of whatever fix.

02:07:20.000 And they'll say, okay, radar contact.

02:07:22.000 Now, depending on where you are, there's a lot of levels of who should be talking to this airplane.

02:07:27.000 The FAA is like, no, you keep talking to him.

02:07:30.000 So what we're going to do, the supervisor or whoever's in charge is going to move, take all your other frequencies and all your other airplanes and give them to the other people.

02:07:38.000 So all you're doing is talking to this dude who has no engine and a single engine airplane.

02:07:42.000 You understand this is a problem. 0.99

02:07:44.000 You got one propeller and that shit ain't working, right? 0.99

02:07:47.000 So you're coming down. 0.99

02:07:48.000 So, and we're talking to, okay, how you want to handle it?

02:07:51.000 Hey, get me straight into, you know, one six.

02:07:54.000 I forget what runways they got.

02:07:55.000 I think they got a 9 up there.

02:07:57.000 I forget what runways.

02:07:58.000 But just, yeah, get me straight in at 1-6.

02:08:00.000 Winds calm.

02:08:01.000 Outtenders 2-9 or 9 or 8.

02:08:03.000 Roger, I'm telling the pilot all this information.

02:08:05.000 I'm trying to keep him calm.

02:08:06.000 Calm down, sir.

02:08:06.000 Try to restart.

02:08:07.000 We're trying to restart.

02:08:08.000 Negative restart.

02:08:09.000 You know what I mean?

02:08:09.000 Say attitude leaving.

02:08:11.000 We're leaving 5,500.

02:08:13.000 Roger.

02:08:14.000 You know, say airspeed.

02:08:15.000 Like, you're doing all kinds of stuff.

02:08:16.000 Keeping them busy.

02:08:16.000 Stay focused.

02:08:17.000 You know, we got your straight-in runway, one-six, whatever.

02:08:20.000 Wincom.

02:08:21.000 And, you know, report the airport in sight.

02:08:23.000 We see the airport.

02:08:24.000 You know, anything you ask for, you're going to give them.

02:08:26.000 And then you're just doing what you can.

02:08:28.000 Right?

02:08:28.000 And normally in that scenario, the guy's like, okay, we don't have enough altitude.

02:08:31.000 We're not going to make the airport.

02:08:33.000 So now, okay, what are you going to do?

02:08:34.000 Okay, staying in tensions.

02:08:35.000 And they're going to be looking around like, okay, we see a big field over here.

02:08:38.000 It looks like some sort of field.

02:08:40.000 We're just going to make this field over here.

02:08:43.000 Or, you know, sometimes it's like, okay, I can't make Fort Lauderdale, but Opelaka is right there.

02:08:48.000 Opelaka is three o'clock, four miles.

02:08:50.000 You know, if you want to try to make Opelaka, turn right heading 180.

02:08:55.000 What if they're on the water?

02:08:57.000 That's happened before.

02:08:58.000 That's not optimal.

02:08:59.000 You don't want that.

02:09:00.000 You'd rather have them on the ground.

02:09:01.000 So that's, again...

02:09:02.000 The water's actually worse.

02:09:03.000 It's way worse.

02:09:04.000 So the answer to your question, bro, is the on-the-job training and experience dictates how you handle these emergencies.

02:09:12.000 There's so many emergencies.

02:09:13.000 What's the survival rate on that?

02:09:15.000 Really good.

02:09:16.000 Really?

02:09:16.000 Really good.

02:09:17.000 Okay.

02:09:18.000 Yeah.

02:09:18.000 So they don't got a propeller or the engine's out.

02:09:21.000 How the hell do they land that thing?

02:09:23.000 They float.

02:09:24.000 Still floating.

02:09:25.000 Right?

02:09:25.000 This airplane got wings.

02:09:26.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:09:27.000 Right?

02:09:28.000 You could call a homelander.

02:09:30.000 Right.

02:09:30.000 Oh my God.

02:09:32.000 Let me teach you how to make some jokes, bro.

02:09:35.000 A small airplane, you think of like a Cessna small airplane.

02:09:38.000 They can land on the street.

02:09:40.000 They can land in the field.

02:09:41.000 Okay.

02:09:41.000 They can pretty much land.

02:09:42.000 So you're just trying to glide that thing in as best you can.

02:09:45.000 Right.

02:09:45.000 Now, if it's a jet, jet loses an engine.

02:09:48.000 It's fine.

02:09:48.000 They got at least one more.

02:09:49.000 Yeah.

02:09:50.000 Right.

02:09:50.000 Some have four engines.

02:09:51.000 Some have just two and a jet can fly.

02:09:54.000 They're good.

02:09:55.000 But there's been times when the jet will lose both engines.

02:09:58.000 And so jets don't float as good as Cessnas.

02:10:01.000 They come down faster.

02:10:03.000 So everything just has to happen faster.

02:10:04.000 And they probably need way more space to be able to...

02:10:06.000 They got way more altitude.

02:10:08.000 They have procedures on board the pilots.

02:10:10.000 Like pilots, they practice for this. 0.59

02:10:12.000 So they engine out, dual engine out.

02:10:14.000 They're trying to restart.

02:10:15.000 I got so many stories about that.

02:10:17.000 But again, survival race on that, bro.

02:10:18.000 I'm thinking...

02:10:20.000 Maybe two, three...

02:10:21.000 I'm making up numbers here, guys, but I'm thinking like maybe 3% in bad.

02:10:25.000 Okay.

02:10:26.000 Like, you stand a better chance on an airplane than you do walking across the street here in Brickell.

02:10:30.000 Okay.

02:10:31.000 There you go.

02:10:32.000 All right.

02:10:32.000 So that's wild, man.

02:10:35.000 So emergency landings, they happen fairly often, and that's good to know that their survival rates are so high.

02:10:42.000 Now, why is landing in the water so bad?

02:10:43.000 I would think landing in the water would be easier because it maybe has to be a softer plane, but when you're having water at that speed, maybe it's...

02:10:49.000 Well, think of the aerodynamics.

02:10:51.000 Think of water.

02:10:52.000 Yeah.

02:10:53.000 Like, you ever run your hand across the water like this and then, you know, just... 0.97

02:10:56.000 So, airplanes got all kinds of shit like that. 0.59

02:10:58.000 So, normally when a plane tries to land in water, it cartwheels, it flips. 0.98

02:11:02.000 It does all kinds of...

02:11:03.000 It was just bad.

02:11:03.000 Breaks apart right away.

02:11:04.000 Gotcha.

02:11:05.000 That thing, the Miracle on the Hudson with Scully Sullenberger, I think it was.

02:11:09.000 Yeah, this was years ago.

02:11:10.000 Yeah, they took off of, I think it was LaGuardia or Newark, one of the two, and lost both engines because he flew through a flock of birds.

02:11:18.000 And the bird strikes are the number one thing to look out for, by the way.

02:11:23.000 Birds will bring an airplane down faster than a missile.

02:11:25.000 So you got these huge birds.

02:11:27.000 He ran into a flock of birds.

02:11:28.000 And they went into the engine.

02:11:29.000 Yeah, and they all got sliced up and killed, and then they clogged the engine.

02:11:32.000 Blew the engines out.

02:11:33.000 Yeah.

02:11:33.000 So he's like, okay, they were telling him, you can go to Teterboro, Teterboro's over here.

02:11:36.000 He's like, mm-mm, can't make Teterboro.

02:11:37.000 You can come back to the airport, can't make the airport.

02:11:39.000 He's like, I'm going to land in the Hudson.

02:11:41.000 So he kept his landing gear up.

02:11:43.000 He's like a really good glider pilot, so he's like used to this.

02:11:46.000 And they just happened to have the right guy sitting on that airplane at the right time.

02:11:50.000 Any other pilot would have been on that airplane, at least half of the people on that plane was supposed to not survive.

02:11:57.000 They landed that thing on the water, and they were standing on the wings waiting for the boats to come pick them up.

02:12:01.000 That was absolutely amazing.

02:12:03.000 I've never seen anything like that.

02:12:04.000 You'll probably never see anything like that again.

02:12:06.000 Watch any video of World War II planes trying to land in water.

02:12:10.000 You see them cartwheeling or, you know, 737s.

02:12:13.000 Because it's not stable.

02:12:14.000 So since it's not stable, it gives.

02:12:16.000 Okay.

02:12:17.000 So you're not going to skip.

02:12:18.000 You might skip a little bit, but at some point you're going to slow down enough to that water that's going to grab you.

02:12:21.000 Yeah.

02:12:22.000 Let me ask you this.

02:12:24.000 The movie with Denzel Washington, was it Flight?

02:12:27.000 When he was drunk?

02:12:28.000 Yeah.

02:12:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:12:29.000 How realistic is that?

02:12:31.000 I've got to ask this. 0.99

02:12:33.000 You fucking flip the plane over like 180 degrees. 1.00

02:12:38.000 The best way to answer this is... 1.00

02:12:39.000 And land it the other way like...

02:12:41.000 Could it happen?

02:12:42.000 Yeah.

02:12:43.000 Sure.

02:12:44.000 Okay.

02:12:44.000 So it is possible.

02:12:45.000 Okay.

02:12:45.000 Yeah, but I mean...

02:12:48.000 Will you ever see anything like that in real life?

02:12:50.000 Crazy.

02:12:51.000 No.

02:12:51.000 The plane would rip apart before that.

02:12:54.000 Okay, we're flying.

02:12:55.000 We're upside down, but we're flying, right?

02:12:57.000 Using one engine to control.

02:12:59.000 Because I was thinking, he had an engine blow, right?

02:13:01.000 Was that the issue?

02:13:03.000 Yeah, they had some sort of...

02:13:03.000 The airplane was malfunctioning, so the engine just went out.

02:13:07.000 And it was rotor.

02:13:07.000 It was something to do with its rudder and some other stuff.

02:13:09.000 So what they did was...

02:13:12.000 I think a bunch of technical guys got together and were like, well, if you had this thing and this thing, let's run it through the sim, and the sim shows you there, so technically it can be done.

02:13:20.000 That was movie magic, bro.

02:13:22.000 Of course.

02:13:22.000 And he did it drunk, too.

02:13:24.000 Right.

02:13:25.000 He was doing blow.

02:13:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:13:28.000 And he was smashing a hot flight attendant.

02:13:30.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:13:32.000 So can you take a machine gun and go, you know, kill 100 bad guys? 1.00

02:13:36.000 Of course. 1.00

02:13:37.000 You can do it.

02:13:37.000 How often is that going to happen?

02:13:39.000 Yeah.

02:13:39.000 Highly improbable.

02:13:40.000 I had an M60 and I was firing from the hip with blanks and I damn near pulled my back muscles out thinking, well, Red Bull could do it.

02:13:49.000 And bro, I was like, uh-uh.

02:13:52.000 You need two hands on that, baby. 0.99

02:13:54.000 Yeah.

02:13:54.000 Okay.

02:13:55.000 Back to the chats.

02:13:58.000 Were you working air traffic during 9-11?

02:14:00.000 I was off that day.

02:14:01.000 If so, what kind of protocols would you do during an emergency situation like that?

02:14:04.000 That's got to be great.

02:14:05.000 I was off that day.

02:14:07.000 Thank goodness.

02:14:08.000 We all got calls, though.

02:14:09.000 They were like, in case they needed to come in.

02:14:12.000 I don't think you'll ever see anything like that again, ever.

02:14:14.000 America is just as different now after that.

02:14:16.000 You just won't be able to coordinate something like that.

02:14:19.000 The way that the air traffic controllers handled that that day...

02:14:23.000 Monumental.

02:14:24.000 And what happens is air traffic controllers are all A-type personalities.

02:14:27.000 They all make decisions.

02:14:28.000 So there's a video out there of a manager Who didn't want to make a decision.

02:14:35.000 So they were like, listen, at some point the controllers figured out this is an attack.

02:14:39.000 A lot of former military guys, Navy guys, Air Force guys, Army guys.

02:14:43.000 Yeah, because did the terrorists jump on there and make demands with the air traffic controls?

02:14:46.000 Well, the terrorists were talking, thinking they were talking to the people on the plane, internal, but he was broadcasting, and you could hear the accent. 0.99

02:14:57.000 The motherfucker's like, uh-oh. 0.99

02:15:01.000 So, and all the controllers at all the different facilities, they figured it out quick, alright? 0.99

02:15:06.000 A big airplane flies into a big building.

02:15:09.000 Okay, something like that could happen.

02:15:10.000 Crazy, it's never happened before.

02:15:11.000 New York, wow, restrictive airspace.

02:15:13.000 This is crazy.

02:15:14.000 Second one happens.

02:15:15.000 This is an attack.

02:15:17.000 Off rip.

02:15:18.000 Second one.

02:15:18.000 And it was the only airplanes that were big enough...

02:15:21.000 To do what it did so it was like no the same type 757s All right, this is what they did and you have more airplanes are off the grid and kind of doing kind of crazy stuff So they knew there was some controllers like look, this is an attack We need to scramble You know jets fight.

02:15:37.000 Yeah, which they all had training that day and yes, and there's a video there's there's audio out there of a guy It may have been a guy or a woman that was like, I don't know what I should do.

02:15:49.000 And the controller was like, scramble the jets.

02:15:51.000 Call the military.

02:15:52.000 We can talk to them.

02:15:54.000 But even back then, we could just hit a button and talk to them.

02:15:56.000 Scramble the jets.

02:15:58.000 I don't know.

02:15:59.000 I don't know.

02:16:01.000 Yo, I'm going to do it.

02:16:02.000 It was one of those guys.

02:16:03.000 Controllers would just do it.

02:16:04.000 Yeah.

02:16:04.000 Well, I don't know if I'm authorized.

02:16:06.000 Damn that. 0.98

02:16:07.000 We don't know how many more. 1.00

02:16:09.000 And their reluctance is because they know the jets are going to shoot them down.

02:16:13.000 Well, if they're armed and ready, back then we weren't running caps.

02:16:18.000 Weren't running what?

02:16:19.000 We weren't running combat air patrols.

02:16:20.000 Ah, okay.

02:16:21.000 So we don't know.

02:16:22.000 I mean, it's okay we got some F-16s.

02:16:25.000 But they don't have any weapons on board.

02:16:28.000 So what are they going to do?

02:16:29.000 Well, those army guys would ram the plane.

02:16:31.000 They'll fly their F-16 into the plane, if they had to, and they'll just eject. 1.00

02:16:35.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:16:37.000 The United States military knows of us who serve. 1.00

02:16:39.000 Y'all don't understand what it takes to keep this country America, to keep our freedoms, whether you like them or not.

02:16:47.000 Y'all don't understand what it means to do America's business.

02:16:49.000 Hmm.

02:16:50.000 When you got guys out there, men and women out there who will fly their aircraft into another aircraft to keep you safe.

02:16:58.000 Wow.

02:16:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:16:59.000 So when I hear people, I mean, it's your right, freedom is ugly, and I want people to say what they want to say and all that.

02:17:05.000 Yeah, it's your right to burn a flag, but don't get mad at me if you wind up wrapped up in that burning flag.

02:17:09.000 I mean, that's just, you know, that's how I looked at.

02:17:12.000 You know what I mean?

02:17:13.000 So no, the air traffic controllers did an outstanding job.

02:17:16.000 They cleared the airspace and they shut down the United States airspace system.

02:17:20.000 And they did it in astounding time.

02:17:22.000 They were landing airplanes everywhere.

02:17:24.000 So you had, you know, air carriers, these big airplanes just landing at nearest airport.

02:17:27.000 And I'm assuming they did that immediately to identify which planes were compromised.

02:17:30.000 Yeah.

02:17:31.000 And that got coordinated for the entire NAS, entire National Airspace System.

02:17:36.000 And within, I want to say it was a matter of hours, the entire airspace system was sterilized.

02:17:42.000 The only thing flying was military.

02:17:44.000 Everything was on the ground.

02:17:45.000 I mean everything.

02:17:46.000 In this country, if you own a plane, if you own like a Cessna, a Bonanza, a Cherokee, you can get in your plane and go fly around. 0.51

02:17:51.000 Not that day.

02:17:53.000 Everything was shut down.

02:17:54.000 That is absolutely amazing.

02:17:56.000 I wasn't at work that day, but I am proud to say I am an air truck.

02:18:00.000 Were you on leave?

02:18:01.000 I was off.

02:18:01.000 It was my day off.

02:18:02.000 It was your day off.

02:18:02.000 Wow.

02:18:04.000 One of my friends called me, my friend Kim.

02:18:05.000 Shout out to you, Kim. 0.99

02:18:06.000 She calls me.

02:18:07.000 Where were you stationed?

02:18:09.000 I was in Van Nuys.

02:18:10.000 So I was living in Canyon country.

02:18:12.000 So I'm like in the suburbs.

02:18:14.000 I've been out doing bad boy stuff.

02:18:17.000 And I keep getting these phone calls.

02:18:19.000 And I finally answered the phone with my friend Kim.

02:18:21.000 I'm like, what's up, girl?

02:18:22.000 She was like, an airplane flew into the World Trade Center.

02:18:25.000 I'm like...

02:18:26.000 What kind of airplane was it?

02:18:27.000 She's like, I don't know, like a Cessna.

02:18:28.000 I'm like, I just bounced off, no problem.

02:18:30.000 She's like, it was a big Cessna.

02:18:31.000 And I'm like, she's like, just watch TV. Turn on TV right now.

02:18:34.000 So I turn on the television and I see it smoking. 0.99

02:18:37.000 I'm like, yeah, it's a big fucking Cessna. 0.99

02:18:39.000 And, you know, like now I see what's going on. 0.98

02:18:42.000 People are calling from work.

02:18:43.000 Like all the controllers had to check in.

02:18:45.000 They're like, they can call us in.

02:18:47.000 Like when something like that happens, air traffic control becomes like an arm of the military.

02:18:51.000 Oh, wow.

02:18:52.000 So if they had ordered me to come in that day, I had to go in to work and stand by and do whatever needs to be done.

02:18:58.000 We were all checking in.

02:18:59.000 We're all checking out for each other.

02:19:00.000 Everybody cool.

02:19:02.000 That was a great day for air traffic control.

02:19:04.000 It was a horrible day for America, but the fact that we could do that, no one else could do that.

02:19:10.000 We did that.

02:19:12.000 One of these days, I'll bring some guys from Miami onto the show who were working that day and can tell you really what was going on.

02:19:18.000 It was so much going on that day. 0.99

02:19:20.000 I can imagine the fucking chaos. 1.00

02:19:21.000 It was insane. 0.99

02:19:22.000 But through that chaos, controllers step up.

02:19:24.000 This is what we deal with.

02:19:26.000 So think about it. 1.00

02:19:27.000 You still got your everyday shit. 1.00

02:19:28.000 Everything's going on. 1.00

02:19:29.000 You got emergencies going on, all this shit. 0.99

02:19:30.000 And all of a sudden, hey, America's under attack. 0.99

02:19:32.000 We're landing all these airplanes.

02:19:33.000 Even when that order came down, we're going to do what?

02:19:36.000 We're landing these aircraft at the nearest airport.

02:19:38.000 I need you to find...

02:19:39.000 It's like in the movies.

02:19:40.000 I need you to find the nearest airports.

02:19:41.000 We just work with da-da-da-da-da. 0.97

02:19:42.000 Get these pilots.

02:19:43.000 Find out where they can land.

02:19:44.000 Find out how heavy they are.

02:19:45.000 Find out what airport...

02:19:46.000 And that's what they were doing.

02:19:47.000 And they were getting everybody on the deck as soon as possible.

02:19:50.000 Safe and sound.

02:19:51.000 Man, that was an amazing day from air traffic control standpoint.

02:19:55.000 A horrible day for America.

02:19:57.000 Yeah.

02:19:57.000 You know what I mean?

02:19:58.000 And I'm still sorry about that.

02:19:59.000 I'm like, you know, I still like, we need some get back.

02:20:02.000 I don't think we got everybody.

02:20:03.000 Yeah, no, we definitely didn't.

02:20:04.000 We definitely didn't.

02:20:05.000 You guys could watch our 9-11 series that we did on that.

02:20:07.000 It's on Rumble.

02:20:07.000 It's not on YouTube.

02:20:08.000 We covered 9-11 extensively, but the perpetrators that were involved.

02:20:12.000 Man, I hope I'm not boring everybody.

02:20:13.000 I'm boring.

02:20:14.000 No, no, you're a great storyteller, bro.

02:20:16.000 Did he get fired by Ronald Reagan?

02:20:18.000 No, he did not.

02:20:19.000 We talked about that dose, Cholster. 0.99

02:20:21.000 Ain't that old goddamn, bro. 0.99

02:20:22.000 Is it a lot of pressure to deal with? 0.99

02:20:23.000 Pressure can turn some men into alcoholics, drug users, and cause depression.

02:20:27.000 It has to be mentally crippling knowing their lives are in your hands.

02:20:30.000 Absolutely.

02:20:31.000 Absolutely.

02:20:31.000 It is...

02:20:33.000 Yes.

02:20:35.000 All right, I'm just gonna keep it 100.

02:20:36.000 Yes.

02:20:36.000 There's a very high self-deletion rate in air traffic control.

02:20:40.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:20:41.000 Very high. 1.00

02:20:43.000 A lot of females. 1.00

02:20:43.000 I wasn't kidding when I said it was one of the most... 1.00

02:20:45.000 A lot of females. 1.00

02:20:46.000 Oh, really?

02:20:47.000 Which is rare, because, you know, females don't normally do that. 1.00

02:20:49.000 They don't normally do that, yeah.

02:20:50.000 There's a very high...

02:20:52.000 What's the workforce with air traffic controllers, breakdown men and women, is it still a majority of men?

02:20:56.000 Still majority, still, but, you know, the numbers are growing.

02:20:59.000 Okay.

02:20:59.000 But I don't think you're ever...

02:21:01.000 70, 80 men?

02:21:02.000 90?

02:21:03.000 Probably, I would say 75, 80.

02:21:06.000 I'm just making up numbers, but I would say 75, 80.

02:21:08.000 Okay, before you left, it was 75, 80.

02:21:09.000 I know this is kind of a random question.

02:21:11.000 Would you date a fellow Traverse guy?

02:21:15.000 Control woman? 1.00

02:21:16.000 That's a good question.

02:21:17.000 Wouldn't date her, but I smashed!

02:21:19.000 What's up, y'all?

02:21:21.000 Makes sense.

02:21:22.000 That's a lot of pressure, bro.

02:21:25.000 That's a lot of pressure, man.

02:21:26.000 Wouldn't they, but I have smashed.

02:21:29.000 Allegedly, by the way.

02:21:30.000 Allegedly.

02:21:32.000 What else do we got?

02:21:34.000 We want to talk about the drug use, too, bro.

02:21:38.000 High-stress jobs come with a lot of...

02:21:40.000 Of course. 0.99

02:21:42.000 So, um, a lot of drinking, a lot of partying, um, to try to forget, not forget, but to deal with, we didn't, you know, I didn't know how to deal with that shit. 0.95

02:21:49.000 So the first time I dealt with, um, you know, loss of life and that sort of thing, first time I ever dealt with that, I didn't, I didn't know how to deal with it. 0.88

02:21:56.000 Like I said, I knew how to deal with it in the streets.

02:21:58.000 I knew how to deal with it on a, on a battlefield, but I didn't know how to deal with it.

02:22:01.000 In real life.

02:22:02.000 And that's one of the things that the FAA and NACA, the National Air Traffic Control Association, is really working on.

02:22:08.000 They had a stress line.

02:22:10.000 This thing happened.

02:22:11.000 It was horrible.

02:22:12.000 They just sent me home.

02:22:13.000 They just go home.

02:22:14.000 So I go home.

02:22:15.000 There's no one there.

02:22:15.000 I'm just in the house.

02:22:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:22:18.000 I'm just sitting there.

02:22:20.000 And I called my mentor.

02:22:22.000 By this time, I'm already in.

02:22:24.000 He was like, I'm so proud of you.

02:22:25.000 You've done me so proud.

02:22:27.000 The guy that got you the job back in 94.

02:22:29.000 The guy who got me in.

02:22:30.000 And he was like, not only did you get in, and let's keep it 100, man.

02:22:33.000 As a black guy back then, that was a thing.

02:22:37.000 But I've always pushed through that.

02:22:39.000 And he was like, man, you kept your head down.

02:22:41.000 You studied.

02:22:41.000 You got through it.

02:22:42.000 I'm so proud of you.

02:22:43.000 So I'm doing my thing.

02:22:45.000 He's not even thinking about me.

02:22:46.000 He's like a father to me.

02:22:47.000 I called him.

02:22:50.000 I'm crying.

02:22:51.000 Keep it 100.

02:22:52.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:22:52.000 I'm in the house and with no girls around.

02:22:55.000 All right?

02:22:55.000 Just so y'all know.

02:22:56.000 And I'm calling another man.

02:22:57.000 Not calling some chick.

02:22:58.000 You know what I mean?

02:22:59.000 How many people were lost?

02:23:01.000 Four in that one. 0.77

02:23:02.000 Wow.

02:23:03.000 Four in that one. 0.77

02:23:04.000 So, make LA Times.

02:23:06.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:23:07.000 It was like a big thing, bro.

02:23:08.000 CNN. Was it a collision?

02:23:11.000 It was a collision.

02:23:12.000 It was a bad one.

02:23:12.000 It was like a private jet collision or...

02:23:14.000 No, just two small airplanes, experimental.

02:23:15.000 It was an experimental airplane, it was really fast, and it was a Cessna called a pipeline.

02:23:21.000 So what he did, what he was doing, he was contracting, just fly around, look at the pipes out there in California, like water pipes and whatever pipes out there.

02:23:28.000 And the worst thing about that is the two guys who were doing the pipeline stuff, There was a guy who was taking over the job, young dude, and there was a guy who was retiring from the job.

02:23:40.000 Those were the two on board.

02:23:41.000 So he was doing a very thorough, hey, let me show you what to do.

02:23:44.000 It wasn't like the normal just in and out like they normally do, which played into this incident.

02:23:50.000 And they're down low, and their airplane is a high-wing configuration.

02:23:53.000 So think of a Cessna wing that's kind of up on top.

02:23:55.000 A low wing is like when you look at the old fighter planes, propeller, Cherokees, and like, you know, the fighter planes.

02:24:01.000 That's a low wing.

02:24:03.000 He's in a high wing.

02:24:04.000 The experimental is like...

02:24:06.000 What's it called?

02:24:07.000 A Cessna what?

02:24:08.000 He was in like a Cessna.

02:24:09.000 I think this was a...

02:24:10.000 This might have been like a 170.

02:24:13.000 Can we Google that real quick, Bill, just so the audience has an image of...

02:24:16.000 So just pull up any Cessna.

02:24:18.000 Just pull up like Cessna 170, Cessna 172, something like that.

02:24:21.000 Like a Cessna.

02:24:21.000 Just so the audience has an image.

02:24:23.000 So it's a high wing.

02:24:23.000 But continue on, sorry.

02:24:24.000 And then the experimental.

02:24:25.000 Like, there you go.

02:24:25.000 Anything is like that.

02:24:26.000 Okay.

02:24:28.000 That's a high wing.

02:24:29.000 And then the low wings are...

02:24:30.000 Put in like PA28. Bill, can you type in just PA28? Enter.

02:24:36.000 There you go.

02:24:37.000 There you go.

02:24:38.000 Aircraft air.

02:24:39.000 There you go.

02:24:39.000 Enter.

02:24:41.000 That's a low wing.

02:24:42.000 Got it.

02:24:43.000 Got you.

02:24:43.000 All right.

02:24:44.000 So, 1-8-0 [...]- And one's climbing,

02:25:02.000 one's descending.

02:25:03.000 They can't really see because the configuration affects their...

02:25:07.000 And it's really busy.

02:25:08.000 There's a lot going on.

02:25:09.000 There's other stuff going on in this airspace.

02:25:11.000 They met.

02:25:12.000 And like I said, there was a young guy and an old guy in this pipeline thing.

02:25:15.000 And the young guy had a brand new family and the old guy was about to retire.

02:25:19.000 And they were lost.

02:25:20.000 And, you know...

02:25:22.000 These are the things that go through.

02:25:23.000 I didn't know this right away, but this is after years of, you know, just going over the paperwork, going through depositions, getting ready for trial.

02:25:29.000 And they weren't coming after me.

02:25:30.000 They were just going after the government because they were like, well, he was working.

02:25:33.000 Or the family sued.

02:25:34.000 Of course.

02:25:35.000 Yeah.

02:25:35.000 And they're just going after the government.

02:25:36.000 And the government almost always settles in these type things.

02:25:39.000 Of course.

02:25:40.000 So I'm at home thinking these people are gone.

02:25:44.000 Again, the streets and battlefield make sense.

02:25:47.000 You know what I mean?

02:25:47.000 Julio Fulio, what happened was tragic, but it makes sense.

02:25:50.000 We know why it happened.

02:25:51.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:25:52.000 You go to war, it's tragic, but it makes sense. 0.99

02:25:55.000 We're fighting a war.

02:25:57.000 But this?

02:25:58.000 I see your perspective.

02:25:59.000 I wasn't prepared.

02:26:00.000 I didn't know how to deal with it.

02:26:01.000 These are innocent people.

02:26:02.000 These people ain't did nothing to nobody.

02:26:04.000 This man was trying to retire.

02:26:05.000 Other man's just trying to take his family.

02:26:06.000 Some woman is having fun in an airplane with a dude who's trying to get on with the woman, flying around, having fun.

02:26:14.000 This didn't make sense to me.

02:26:15.000 So I'm at home by myself.

02:26:18.000 TV's off.

02:26:19.000 And I wanted to just get drunk.

02:26:23.000 Yeah.

02:26:23.000 I just wanted to drink.

02:26:25.000 And I called my mentor, told him what happened.

02:26:28.000 And he starts screaming through the phone.

02:26:30.000 He was like, they sent you home?

02:26:32.000 By yourself?

02:26:33.000 I'm like, I'm just in the house.

02:26:35.000 And he was like, is there anyone you can call?

02:26:37.000 Now, imagine, I'm still fairly new to California.

02:26:39.000 But I was messing with it.

02:26:40.000 I had a dime.

02:26:41.000 Still, I always had a little rotation.

02:26:44.000 He's like, is there anyone that you trust, anyone you're close to?

02:26:47.000 And I'm like, no.

02:26:48.000 Is there anyone you can call?

02:26:49.000 Like, well, it's these girls. 1.00

02:26:50.000 Can you get one of them girls to come over? 1.00

02:26:52.000 I'm like, I don't want to fuck with no hoes right now. 1.00

02:26:53.000 He was like, no, you need to get out the house. 0.99

02:26:56.000 You need somebody with you.

02:26:57.000 Tell her to come get you and take you somewhere. 1.00

02:27:00.000 So I called her.

02:27:01.000 She came through.

02:27:02.000 Actually, that's how she moved from number.

02:27:04.000 She was at the bottom of the rotation.

02:27:05.000 That's how she moved to the top because she came through. 1.00

02:27:08.000 When you needed her the most.

02:27:10.000 No one answered their phone but her.

02:27:11.000 She showed up.

02:27:12.000 She took me out. 0.87

02:27:13.000 You know, we drove me around.

02:27:14.000 I told her what was going on, but she saw it on the news by the end.

02:27:17.000 She was like, was that you?

02:27:17.000 I was like, yeah, that's me.

02:27:19.000 And I didn't know if I was to talk about it or not.

02:27:21.000 Like, I didn't know nothing.

02:27:22.000 I'm new.

02:27:23.000 Yeah.

02:27:23.000 And she just sat there with me, and she took me places, and she took me home, and she put me to sleep.

02:27:30.000 She just, I mean, not like that, y'all.

02:27:32.000 She just made sure I got in the bed. 0.99

02:27:34.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:27:36.000 Let me go to sleep.

02:27:36.000 She didn't let me drink.

02:27:38.000 You know what I mean?

02:27:38.000 She was like, no.

02:27:41.000 Now, the average air traffic controller, especially a man, he ain't going to reach out to nobody. 1.00

02:27:46.000 We're going to keep that shit internally, right? 1.00

02:27:48.000 And he's going to drink, or worse, he's going to go out and do some stupid, you know, whatever. 1.00

02:27:52.000 So we do have a problem with that, but the EFA has gotten way better. 0.99

02:27:55.000 They have numbers for us to call.

02:27:57.000 At the time, I called their number for help.

02:28:00.000 Because before I called my mentor, before he called me back, I just called the number.

02:28:03.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

02:28:04.000 And it was like, hello, this is Bob type shit. 0.99

02:28:07.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

02:28:08.000 And he didn't know I was an air traffic controller.

02:28:09.000 He didn't know anything about air traffic.

02:28:11.000 And I'm trying to tell him what he's like.

02:28:12.000 So what's your problem?

02:28:13.000 I start talking air traffic, thinking it's confidential.

02:28:16.000 And he had no idea what I was talking about. 0.99

02:28:18.000 Damn. 0.99

02:28:19.000 And then at one point, I was like, why the fuck did they give me your number? 1.00

02:28:22.000 And I just hung up. 0.99

02:28:24.000 Yeah.

02:28:25.000 So yeah man, so controllers do, especially at those busy facilities, man we party hard, we work hard, we party hard.

02:28:33.000 Is it pretty much like a guarantee that if you have a long, because you were in for like 20 plus years, if you have a long career that at some point you're gonna have to deal with this situation, like you're gonna deal with a collision or people, loss of life at some point?

02:28:45.000 Depends on where you work.

02:28:47.000 Okay.

02:28:47.000 So if you had the career that I had and you worked at some of these busier places, I'm not saying you're going to be involved in a collision, but you're definitely going to see one.

02:28:56.000 Someone's going to deal with some close call.

02:28:58.000 Someone's going to deal with something.

02:29:00.000 A lot of times, you know, sometimes planes just fall out the sky, bro.

02:29:03.000 You know, and there's nothing anyone can do.

02:29:05.000 And you're listening to these people's last words because they panic and they just grip the yoke.

02:29:12.000 There's a push the talk button on there.

02:29:14.000 They just grip it.

02:29:15.000 And you just hear them as they go down. 0.99

02:29:17.000 You can go on YouTube and hear all kind of farewell shit when pilots are going down, and there's nothing you can do. 0.99

02:29:24.000 You're just listening to these people die. 0.99

02:29:26.000 Yeah, that's terrible.

02:29:28.000 You know, and then in that situation...

02:29:30.000 They didn't make the Kobe one public yet, right?

02:29:33.000 I don't think so.

02:29:36.000 No, there's radio communication out there from all the flights.

02:29:40.000 That was out almost immediately.

02:29:41.000 Again, liveatc.com.

02:29:43.000 Yeah, someone recorded that right away.

02:29:45.000 Yeah.

02:29:47.000 Like I said, we'll talk about that later.

02:29:48.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.

02:29:49.000 Thank you for being here, bro.

02:29:51.000 Yeah, no, absolutely.

02:29:52.000 And I think that's something that people need to be prepared for because they think, you know, I'll make $100,000 plus a year.

02:29:57.000 But it's like, you know, it does come with a cost.

02:29:59.000 See, he's giving you the good and the bad, keeping it real.

02:30:02.000 And ugly.

02:30:03.000 Yeah.

02:30:04.000 What do we got here?

02:30:06.000 Can you tell a story of an accident?

02:30:07.000 Just told one.

02:30:08.000 Yeah.

02:30:08.000 Now that I remember, I have a youngest brother who graduated the Philippines with a BA degree in aircraft maintenance, and I thought it would relate to your aircraft career.

02:30:15.000 I want him to come to the States to work here. 1.00

02:30:16.000 He's a U.S. citizen.

02:30:18.000 Does he need a degree, or does he have to retain here to become aircraft mechanic?

02:30:21.000 Thank you, brother.

02:30:22.000 That's a whole other profession, but I don't know if we can speak that.

02:30:24.000 That is a different profession.

02:30:25.000 If you join Castle Club, bro, if you're a Castle Club member, I'll reach out to my homeboys.

02:30:30.000 I know guys that are retired controllers who are pilots and some are mechanics.

02:30:33.000 They did that.

02:30:34.000 They actually worked on...

02:30:35.000 They had all the certifications, so I can find out for you.

02:30:38.000 It'll take me a little time, of course.

02:30:40.000 He's in Castle Club.

02:30:41.000 Yeah, these chats are Castle Club, guys.

02:30:44.000 Bro, I got you.

02:30:45.000 Do me a favor, man.

02:30:46.000 Hit me up.

02:30:48.000 And Telegram so I don't forget.

02:30:50.000 And just give me about a week or so.

02:30:52.000 I just got to send some messages out and I can talk to some of my homeboys on what you need to be certified as a mechanic, aircraft mechanic in the FAA. Okay.

02:31:02.000 Okay.

02:31:02.000 Levi says, I have a question.

02:31:04.000 Can you have a site job while you're in the FAA Academy?

02:31:07.000 Sure, but I wouldn't do it.

02:31:09.000 Yeah.

02:31:10.000 I wouldn't do it. 0.99

02:31:10.000 You fucking around at the beginning, bro. 0.99

02:31:12.000 Sometimes you gotta slow down, man. 1.00

02:31:14.000 You talking about this is...

02:31:15.000 Can I have a side job where I'm trying to secure the rest of my future?

02:31:18.000 Sure.

02:31:20.000 But...

02:31:21.000 That's going to be the reason why you watch Allie of the Academy, and that's it.

02:31:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:31:24.000 You've got to focus on passing, bro.

02:31:26.000 You've got to focus on passing 100%.

02:31:28.000 Good evening, Fit, DL St.

02:31:29.000 Fresh.

02:31:30.000 Question for Donald.

02:31:30.000 Can you make six figures as soon as you're done with training and get in the field, or is it more or after you've worked for X amount of years you'll make six figures?

02:31:39.000 NYC area.

02:31:39.000 Thanks, guys.

02:31:40.000 After you get through the academy, you get to your first facility, no matter where you go with differential pay, you get paid extra to work at night.

02:31:49.000 You get paid extra to work on Sundays.

02:31:51.000 You get paid extra on holidays, right?

02:31:54.000 So you got guaranteed.

02:31:55.000 I forget how many government holidays there are now.

02:31:57.000 Yeah, I should have forgotten.

02:31:58.000 Remember that?

02:31:58.000 But you guaranteed that money.

02:32:00.000 Yeah.

02:32:00.000 Right?

02:32:01.000 So with all the differential pays, once you get to the point where you're the controller in charge, you get paid extra for that.

02:32:06.000 When you're training people, you get paid extra for that.

02:32:09.000 So the basic rule of thumb, wherever your facility is, whatever your pay is, like you finished all your training and everything, you pass your year probation period, then you add 20% to whatever that number is.

02:32:22.000 So if that number is like 73,000 or whatever, just add 20% to that.

02:32:26.000 Okay.

02:32:28.000 And then, of course, after you get two or three more years, yeah, you're really up there.

02:32:33.000 Makes sense.

02:32:35.000 What else we got, Pills?

02:32:37.000 T. Prince says, can you please talk about how the VA will lose a page?

02:32:41.000 What I'm thinking, dude, is we start the new show.

02:32:44.000 Right now?

02:32:45.000 Not right now, but we obviously end this, and then we answer these on Catholic Club, because I'm thinking about going to Catholic Club after we do the new show anyway.

02:32:52.000 And Saint's going to be here anyway, and he can answer these questions in even more depth.

02:32:55.000 These are a lot of good questions and stuff like that, and we can give us some more time on Castle Club.

02:32:58.000 Okay, that's fair.

02:32:59.000 So I can read the Rumble rants, and then I'll read, and then the Castle Club ones will come back to it.

02:33:06.000 Yeah, because time is ticking, and obviously we want to get you guys as much value as far as how to get into it, etc.

02:33:11.000 Ramrod says, WFNF, also check out the Navy.

02:33:14.000 We have this job, right?

02:33:14.000 It's called AC. This is the only branch that will give you a contract guarantee for whatever job you pick before shipping off to basic.

02:33:20.000 Okay, Ramrod.

02:33:20.000 Thank you, Ramrod.

02:33:20.000 Go Navy.

02:33:21.000 We beat y'all ass in football last season. 0.99

02:33:23.000 Yeah, go Army. 0.99

02:33:24.000 A flip, USMC, Army, AF have the applicant make a dream sheet and they go down that list, meaning if you're medically unqualified, next job.

02:33:31.000 If it's taken, next job, Navy will make you pick before boot. 1.00

02:33:34.000 Okay.

02:33:35.000 Peter Darker says there's a theory that night vision that was used during Vietnam made the U.S. soldiers see things.

02:33:40.000 Allegedly, how true is that theory?

02:33:42.000 That's before me, bro. 0.99

02:33:44.000 That starlight shit, their night vision, their nods were kind of like starlights, talking to some of the old soldiers. 0.98

02:33:49.000 They really didn't work that well from what they were telling me, those guys who were like in the Asha Valley, because they were in the jungle and there wasn't a lot of light for it to gather. 0.99

02:33:57.000 And then at night again was no moonlight, there was no light for it to gather.

02:34:00.000 So they told me that it was pretty much just, you know, it was a dub.

02:34:06.000 Okay.

02:34:08.000 Um...

02:34:20.000 What do you think happened to Malaysian Airlines Flight 370?

02:34:26.000 Also, did seeing previous airline terrorist attacks like the Lockerbie bombing ever dissuade you from becoming a traffic airline controller?

02:34:34.000 Yeah, man.

02:34:35.000 So, Malaysia 370, no one knows, man.

02:34:39.000 We need more information.

02:34:41.000 Who knows?

02:34:41.000 It could have just been some catastrophic.

02:34:43.000 It could have been some sort of phenomenon.

02:34:45.000 It could have been severe wind shear turbulence.

02:34:48.000 Could have, you know, ripped a hole in it, ripped the wings off.

02:34:50.000 Who knows?

02:34:51.000 And this shows you how big the ocean is.

02:34:54.000 We keep saying how small, you know, oh, the world is getting smaller.

02:34:57.000 The oceans ain't.

02:34:58.000 So, you know what I mean?

02:34:58.000 They dump your body somewhere in the middle of the ocean somewhere, and you ain't never getting found again.

02:35:20.000 Damn. 1.00

02:35:22.000 Best facilities, man. 1.00

02:35:24.000 Food was good, women. 1.00

02:35:26.000 When I was rotating back from the desert, we stopped in Spain, stopped at the Air Force Base.

02:35:32.000 It's the first time I seen grass in like months. 0.94

02:35:34.000 So we're like playing around the grass, like grown ass men rolling around the grass. 0.52

02:35:37.000 And we went and got some food. 0.79

02:35:38.000 The place was beautiful.

02:35:39.000 I don't even know what Air Force Base it was.

02:35:41.000 It was somewhere in Spain.

02:35:42.000 It was beautiful, man.

02:35:43.000 Someone will drop it in the chat, probably.

02:35:44.000 Man, them dudes and the women. 1.00

02:35:47.000 Yeah, he was right about that Air Force shit, bro, for real. 1.00

02:35:51.000 All right. 0.99

02:35:52.000 Anything else?

02:35:52.000 Jeff.

02:35:53.000 Jeff goes, what's good, FNF? I'm 31.

02:35:56.000 I was going to join Navy five years ago, but started working for Publix.

02:35:59.000 Now I drive trucks for them.

02:36:01.000 But I'm thinking about reserves for more competency experience and set up in life and retirement.

02:36:06.000 Good idea?

02:36:07.000 What do you think, Saint?

02:36:08.000 I was thinking about going reserves.

02:36:10.000 He's a truck driver.

02:36:10.000 Driver of Publix is doing pretty well.

02:36:12.000 I think he donated on the last show with Jay on Publix.

02:36:14.000 Yeah, I think they, um, you just have to check the age requirement.

02:36:18.000 I think they raised it.

02:36:19.000 I think you can get in at 31.

02:36:21.000 Don't quote me on it.

02:36:22.000 But here's the thing, you got to understand something, bro.

02:36:24.000 Wait, there's a cutoff.

02:36:25.000 You can't join after a certain age.

02:36:26.000 Right.

02:36:27.000 In the military, yeah.

02:36:28.000 What is it?

02:36:28.000 I can't remember.

02:36:29.000 I want to say it's close to that, like 30-something.

02:36:32.000 Okay.

02:36:33.000 37 for law enforcement.

02:36:34.000 I know that.

02:36:35.000 It might be 37 for them.

02:36:36.000 It might be the same.

02:36:37.000 I don't know.

02:36:37.000 We got to look that one up.

02:36:38.000 But here's the thing you need to think about, brother.

02:36:40.000 Like, you're doing really good.

02:36:41.000 You want some experience.

02:36:42.000 You want a little bit of fun.

02:36:43.000 Understand, when there's conflicts, they send the National Guard and the Reserves.

02:36:48.000 It ain't like when I was in, the Reserve guys, they were weekend warriors.

02:36:51.000 They really didn't do nothing.

02:36:52.000 But now, bro, you can find yourself in a faraway land with...

02:36:56.000 I'm going to keep it 100 with weekend training.

02:36:59.000 I didn't mind getting deployed because I wasn't for a brag, man.

02:37:02.000 I went with the best.

02:37:02.000 Tip of the spear dudes.

02:37:03.000 I'm out there with Green Berets and Rangers and everything else.

02:37:06.000 Delta, you're going out there with Bubba.

02:37:08.000 So just think about what you're doing.

02:37:11.000 Okay.

02:37:12.000 So the chances of even reservists getting deployed is very real.

02:37:16.000 The chances of getting deployed in the reserves today is way higher than the woods when I got in in 1990.

02:37:21.000 You need to seriously consider that, my friend, given all the global conflicts that we have.

02:37:25.000 St.

02:37:25.000 mentioned earlier, we might have a war on three different fronts, whether it's in Israel, Ukraine, and now Taiwan.

02:37:31.000 Taiwan's a very real possibility, guys.

02:37:34.000 What do we got here?

02:37:36.000 Reyes?

02:37:36.000 Hey guys, I had a question about the military.

02:37:38.000 I'm in the process of getting my A&P license and was wondering if I should go to the military and just get a regular job.

02:37:43.000 Thanks for your time and the free sauce.

02:37:47.000 And Brother Reyes, it depends on you, fam.

02:37:51.000 If you're okay with...

02:37:54.000 Dying for your country, right?

02:37:55.000 I know I'm just taking it to an extreme, but you have to be okay with dying for your country.

02:38:01.000 Like I said, bro, we could not go 82 days at Fort Bragg without somebody dying.

02:38:07.000 Getting run over by a truck, falling off of a vehicle, drowning, some sort of mishap, you know, on a jump as a paratrooper. 0.99

02:38:15.000 You know, I've had shit, bro. 0.99

02:38:16.000 I almost died a couple times. 0.99

02:38:18.000 I got a couple stories for y'all about that, but...

02:38:20.000 Training in the United States military is dangerous.

02:38:23.000 So if you're cool with that and it makes sense to you, then I would say, yeah, listen, I want everybody to get some, bro.

02:38:29.000 But if it doesn't make sense and you ain't trying to die, man, then keep doing what you're doing.

02:38:34.000 Yeah.

02:38:34.000 Very real advice right there.

02:38:37.000 And you've got to really ask yourself that question, are you?

02:38:39.000 Because people think, I'm just going to go in and get my GI Bill and get out.

02:38:42.000 No, man.

02:38:42.000 You might not get that far.

02:38:44.000 If you get out.

02:38:45.000 And one last thing.

02:38:46.000 When you're doing this, there's a such thing as Defense Ready Brigade, right?

02:38:51.000 I'm sorry.

02:38:52.000 Ready Reserve.

02:38:53.000 So you have your four years or whatever, active, whatever, but it might be six years on the back end where they could call you up.

02:38:59.000 Yeah.

02:38:59.000 Oh, wow.

02:39:00.000 Anytime.

02:39:01.000 That's true.

02:39:02.000 That's true.

02:39:02.000 So you got to really read that contract and see what it is.

02:39:04.000 Yep.

02:39:05.000 Oh, boy.

02:39:06.000 What do we got here?

02:39:07.000 Everything good?

02:39:07.000 That's it?

02:39:08.000 All right, guys.

02:39:09.000 So we're going to start right now with it is 10 what?

02:39:12.000 It's 1024?

02:39:12.000 1024.

02:39:13.000 So give us about 10-15 minutes, guys, and we're going to debut Fresh Fit News, and then we're going to do a Zoom call with Saint and with you guys, and we're going to break down what we talked about with the news and also any questions that you guys might have had.

02:39:25.000 Saint's going to stick by with us and everything else like that.

02:39:27.000 And in Saint, where can I find you?

02:39:29.000 What's going on next for you, brother?

02:39:30.000 DL Saint, I really want to know podcast.

02:39:32.000 Myron's always pumping me up.

02:39:34.000 Thank you, bro.

02:39:34.000 I didn't have to pay for that.

02:39:36.000 I was like, oh, Fresh has always hit me up.

02:39:38.000 Like I said, these boys told me, don't do it. 1.00

02:39:40.000 They're like, bro, I'm telling you, don't fuck with it. 0.99

02:39:42.000 I should have listened to them because, yeah, I got a lot of yellow and red checks on my... 0.99

02:39:46.000 I don't know how long I'm going to be around because I do this too, but...

02:39:49.000 Deal saying I really want to know podcasts on YouTube, guys.

02:39:52.000 I don't do a lot on X. I'm just starting to get on there.

02:39:56.000 I don't do Facebook.

02:39:57.000 I hate Facebook, but eventually I'll get on there.

02:39:59.000 And on YouTube is I really want to know podcasts.

02:40:02.000 Correction, on Instagram, I really want to know podcasts.

02:40:04.000 All one word.

02:40:05.000 I really appreciate any support you guys can give me.

02:40:08.000 And like I said, shout out to Myron Fresh and the whole Fresh and Fit fam, man.

02:40:12.000 And shout out to y'all out there.

02:40:13.000 Appreciate y'all.

02:40:14.000 I see y'all weren't clowning me.

02:40:15.000 I was expecting y'all was going to clown me. 1.00

02:40:16.000 Look at this old motherfucker. 1.00

02:40:17.000 Y'all ain't do none of that. 1.00

02:40:18.000 Well, it was very insightful, man.

02:40:20.000 Great stuff.

02:40:20.000 Breaking stories.

02:40:21.000 Yeah.

02:40:22.000 And then just so you guys know, when an air traffic controller position does open up, Sane's going to be the first person to announce the On Castle Club for you guys and help guys out with getting in.

02:40:32.000 So, it's a great career, guys.

02:40:34.000 I mean, obviously, we talked about the good, the bad, and the ugly.

02:40:36.000 Obviously, the pace is fantastic, but then, you know, comes with a lot of stress, etc.

02:40:39.000 But that is how you get into the field, man.

02:40:41.000 Cool.

02:40:42.000 So, I guess we'll be back in about 10 minutes, guys.

02:40:45.000 Give us 10-15 minutes to reset, and then we're going to give you guys the first episode of Fresh Fit News.

02:40:50.000 So, we'll be back in a little bit, guys.

02:40:51.000 Love you guys.

02:40:51.000 Peace.

02:40:52.000 Peace.

02:40:57.000 I just ran, I ran all night and day

Fresh & Fit - July 08, 2024

How To Make OVER $100K-yr Without A Degree w- DL Saint

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