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00:15:50.000So, sorry guys that we're re-uploading, right now as we speak, we are re-uploading the episode from last night in its entirety, okay?
00:15:58.000We went ahead and chopped the parts out that got cut out, because as you guys saw, the stream went down multiple times.
00:16:04.000Obviously, that was extremely annoying, and what we ended up doing was taking all those parts that we had and putting them together, shout out to Mo, and re-uploading it.
00:16:14.000So, it's going to be up on Castle Club here soon.
00:16:17.000But I can kind of go into what was what went down and what was annoying and everything else like that.
00:16:22.000And what went down basically, guys, was first it started with we had a Ukrainian girl on the panel and there was a conversation on who you're going to vote for.
00:16:30.000And I asked her, like, who would you vote for?
00:16:33.000And she was like, oh, whoever has the best interests of Ukraine.
00:16:36.000And I was like, OK, if you vote for Kamala, She's going to continue the war, right?
00:16:45.000I mean, she's going to continue what Biden is doing.
00:16:47.000She's currently the vice president right now as we speak, right?
00:16:51.000So she's going to implement the policy that's already in place.
00:16:54.000Mind you guys, she went out there to Eastern Europe to facilitate some kind of negotiation.
00:17:00.000And then like two weeks later, Russia invaded, right?
00:17:05.000So she's not necessarily the best diplomat.
00:17:08.000So, what ended up happening was, um, what ended up happening, uh, oh man, where is this?
00:17:16.000Shoutout to Luki LC, Subscriber Prime.
00:17:21.000What ended up happening was, I was like, well, if you vote for Kamala, it's gonna be another war.
00:17:27.000Or it's gonna, we're gonna continue the conflict.
00:17:29.000Which, at this point, we have roughly, conservative estimates, about 500,000 Ukrainians dead.
00:17:39.000And a bunch of Russian soldiers dead as well.
00:17:41.000But obviously her interest is Ukraine, so I kept it there.
00:17:43.000And I told her if Trump comes in, he's going to end the war, but you guys are going to have to concede that 20 to 30 percent of land that they have on Eastern Europe, Eastern Ukraine.
00:17:55.000And she was like, well, you know, at this point, a lot of people died.
00:17:59.000So, you know, we don't want their deaths in vain.
00:18:31.000Because you could tell that she was extremely uncomfortable, but I said it like it was.
00:18:35.000You're literally saying right now that you think it's better to have more people fight and die because you don't want the people that already died to die in vain.
00:18:53.000Though I see the logic in what you're saying, The most pragmatic approach is to simply just come to a negotiation.
00:19:04.000And then I said what everyone else is too scared to tell this girl.
00:20:02.000Because it's not just Russia against Ukraine.
00:20:04.000It's Russia versus Ukraine versus United States versus the UK versus all of fucking NATO. And they still were able to get an impressive amount of land.
00:20:14.000They pretty much control all of eastern Ukraine, guys.
00:21:05.000Obviously, we transitioned into another topic.
00:21:08.000And, you know, she was like, she obviously didn't like that.
00:21:13.000And I saw her like whisper something to the girl.
00:21:16.000Oh, and then she also talked about how she did a video where it got a lot of views, because she put blood on herself and she brought awareness to the conflict.
00:21:34.000She literally fled the country when the conflict happened because she's a woman and women have the privilege of fleeing the fucking country.
00:22:08.000This is me saying facts are fucking facts.
00:22:11.000Russia is militarily superior to Ukraine.
00:22:14.000The only reason we even have a conflict going on right now is because NATO and the United States is intervening and giving Ukraine the money and resources to do what they're going to do.
00:22:38.000Okay, this is a war of attrition, and Ukraine, unfortunately, has not enough soldiers to go into it, but Russia does, and they have the equipment and time to do it, too.
00:23:46.000She's another one of these dumb chicks that live in the United States, haven't been in Ukraine for years, and is speaking from a position of privilege saying, no, we got to keep fighting.
00:24:16.000So, everyone that's advocating for this war, Zelensky, stupid bimbos that are here in Miami living their best life, because that's who's advocating for the war, by the way.
00:24:26.000The stupid liberals that don't know what's going on, Zelensky, and the dumb bimbos that are here in the United States that don't know what the fuck is going on, they're the ones advocating for the war because they don't got skin in the game.
00:25:12.000But these idiotic women that come on the show that have been in the United States for the past couple of years think that they fucking know what they're talking about.
00:25:36.000You're literally like the fifth stupid Ukrainian chick that's trying to sit here and argue with me and tell me why Either Ukraine is winning or why they need to keep fighting or whatever.
00:35:19.000That is me being a fat piece of shit, standing in front of 7-Eleven, trying to hustle some quarters for motherfuckers, saying, I deserve a top-tier bitch.
00:36:05.000If you make certain decisions in your life as a woman, namely being involved in sex work or doing some type of promiscuous activity, you have forfeited the privilege, because it's a privilege, to be with a higher status man.
00:36:50.000Meanwhile, you had to work to earn your $5 million, and you see each other 20 years later at a fucking school reunion, and that person lost all their money.
00:38:19.000Well, you gotta get your degree, then go to med school, pass the boards, do well, you know, maintain a certain grade point average, do your residency, etc.
00:38:29.000Anything that's worth having takes time to acquire.
00:38:36.000So I'll be fucking damned if I go through life as a man and I build myself up to a certain manner and someone was given it from the beginning and they squandered their fucking gifts, bro.
00:38:48.000Because they're giving their money up front and they still choose to squander it.
00:38:51.000Every single one of these girls here, these OnlyFans chicks, can probably find a guy that is higher status, makes money, that's wanting to take care of them.
00:52:15.000Guaranteed, 95% of the people that are involved in the construction of this fucking building are men.
00:52:20.000Guaranteed, the plumbing that goes into that building, which, by the way, they got a bunch of weird all-gender bathrooms in there, by the way.
00:52:27.000It's LA. The guys that hung those signs up that said all genders?
00:54:46.000They're the ones that, if that's most of our Senate, our House, our Congress, everybody, they're the ones that vote- Yeah, because we built society.
00:54:51.000So, since we built society, you're lucky we're even giving you a seat at the fucking table.
00:55:05.000It means, how much skin do you have in the game?
00:55:08.000The person who has the most skin in the game has the most say.
00:55:12.000If I built something, I created something, and I'm the best at something, I have the most say in something.
00:55:18.000If you just watch me build it, Enjoyed the fruits of my labor, then you want to come in and tell me how to run that something that I created?
00:55:59.000So, I'm not going to give someone the ability to make a decision or have weigh-in on something that they don't have skin in.
00:56:09.000This is the whole reason why I said we need to repeal the 19th.
00:56:14.000That dumbass Ukrainian chick proved my point.
00:56:17.000She wants the war to continue, despite the fact that 500,000 people have died.
00:56:24.000Well, I don't want them to die in vain, so we got to continue the war.
00:56:27.000You know, I know we can't win, and we need money from the United States, and Zelensky's a moron that dances in heels, but you know, come on, we need to keep going.
00:58:50.000Things that get passed, they have the rights and they're the ones that dish them out to everybody else and you're lucky if you can get them.
00:58:55.000And we also need to remember men's right activism.
00:58:57.000While they do have some genuine plights, it started out as a combatant to feminism.
00:59:01.000So I feel like they laid the groundwork off a very bad foundation.
00:59:25.000Men are four times as likely to, I don't know what the TikTok version of the phrase is, but, you know, four times more likely.
00:59:31.000I think that's something that should be talked about more.
00:59:32.000I think that there's also, a lot of men are very hesitant to get rid of the notions of patriarchy, whereas I've noticed a lot of women or assigned female at birth people are very willing to just Throw away any notions of femininity.
00:59:45.000I think a lot of men have a lot of emotional baggage from the patriarchy that they redirect at women, and it's not fair to them, and it's also hurting us.
00:59:52.000And the problem is, for some men, all they have is their notion of masculinity to the point that they cannot let it go, and they can't see.
00:59:58.000Shout out to Ann Noren for subscribing on Prime.
01:02:04.000I think that movements that attempt to fight for rights for particular groups, that that sort of description should be exclusive to genuine social justice movements.
01:02:13.000There may be disparities in ways in which the patriarchy does disadvantage men, but I think that you can't co-opt the language of it being a social justice or rights-based No, the problem is that I have this thing.
01:02:25.000I feel like saying that men have feelings is kind of like saying all lives matter because men only ever bring up their problems directly after women bring up theirs.
01:02:33.000And that's the problem is that for a lot of men, I think we feel so uncared for by society.
01:02:37.000We feel so like we don't really matter unless we prove our worth that any time any social movement gets any sort of traction, we just immediately just bum rush that.
01:02:46.000And it really makes me wonder that there are rational men's rights activists, seeing as yourself, but are these people advocating, bad actors, for women's rights to be peeled back for them to feel comfortable?
01:02:55.000I think so, because I think the problem is that a lot of men, again, people who are so rooted in their gender bother me, because it only hurts you.
01:03:03.000It only hurts other people around you.
01:03:05.000It's kind of like the idea of like, because the problem is that men are allowed to express anger, but they're not allowed to express sadness.
01:03:09.000Women are allowed to express sadness, but you cannot express anger.
01:03:23.000Okay, so this is a great opportunity to bring in our disagreements, but I ask that we listen to what they have to say before we disagree with them.
01:03:31.000So the perspective that I come from was about three years ago I wanted to know why men didn't want to get married anymore.
01:03:37.000I kept hearing men say I don't want to get married.
01:03:40.000And it kind of took me down the rabbit hole of family court.
01:03:42.000I started interviewing men that had been what's called divorce great.
01:03:45.000And I kept finding guy after guy after guy that lived a couple miles from his kids and could not see them.
01:03:51.000It goes back to men should have access to their children.
01:03:54.000It's 50% their DNA. They should get 50% custody off the bat.
01:03:58.000And right now, 90% of the time, women get custody.
01:04:01.000The question was, do men have all of their rights?
01:04:04.000How can I say that they have all of their rights when I'm finding guy after guy after guy that is devastated he can't talk to his children?
01:04:10.000I had one guy who the woman got custody.
01:04:13.000And she ended up taking the kid to a different country.
01:04:16.000And now his kid doesn't speak his same language.
01:04:19.000He spent $300,000 trying to get that kid back.
01:04:22.000I want to look at women's stories as to why they don't want to get married.
01:04:24.000And I could go interview a thousand women.
01:04:26.000You're looking for these kinds of men.
01:04:27.000What she is discussing are individual and, yes, tragic cases.
01:04:41.000If you go around the world, there are countries that have male-only conscription, countries that have higher pension ages for men, countries like the U.S. and Canada have certain welfare programs that men are excluded from, domestic violence laws, homeless laws.
01:04:52.000There are many cases where men do not have access to the same public welfare programs, tax-paid programs.
01:04:57.000And if you look at something like the draft in the U.S., people say, well, that's outdated.
01:05:02.000But many countries in the world, included some that are considered very first world progressive feminist countries, Austria, Finland, Switzerland, they have male-only conscription.
01:05:10.000And many countries have higher pension agents for men.
01:05:12.000So there are many examples of countries that have laws that directly discriminate against men.
01:06:06.000I tell Aiden, look, bro, I know we've had some disagreements before or whatever, and you were supposed to come on the podcast, but are you gonna come this time?
01:08:29.000Like, if you do shit like that, you need to make it right, right?
01:08:36.000If you flake, I'm not saying, oh, you gotta make every single appointment or whatever, but if you tell someone you're gonna do something, right?
01:08:43.000If you don't make it, like, make it right with that person.
01:11:08.000He called me on Telegram like three times while we were live on stream because he didn't give a fuck until his fans started shitting on him.
01:13:01.000When he didn't show up, people asked me a bunch of questions, especially since we went out of our way to gather the panel that he specifically asked for, and I told the truth.
01:13:09.000And then he didn't like the backlash he got from his audience for not showing up.
01:13:14.000And then ever since then, it's kind of been like some contention or whatever.
01:13:19.000And I ain't gonna lie, I roast him sometimes on X2 for doing dumb shit.
01:15:07.000I'm just being honest and telling you guys what it is.
01:15:09.000You guys think I want to tell y'all this story about Aiden, bro?
01:15:11.000I don't want to fucking tell y'all this story, but I'm telling you guys this because everyone's been spamming me to go into that fucking stream.
01:15:50.000But going back to my buddy, John from Modern Life Dating.
01:15:56.000When I first got into YouTube, et cetera, he was a critical component helping me out, right?
01:16:01.000He introduced me to a lot of people and I'll never fucking forget him for that.
01:16:04.000That's why anytime he's in Miami, anytime he wants to do a collab, anything, I fucking will always have him on, no matter what.
01:16:09.000People talk shit about him, try to say some bullshit about he did this or whatever.
01:16:13.000There was a little bit of controversy with him saying something about Endure on the whatever podcast, everyone came out, I'm like, fuck you, motherfuckers.
01:21:03.000You know how many guys I've spoken to, and I hate to use anecdotal evidence, but there's so many guys that literally spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to try to get sole custody of their kids, and they don't fucking get it, bro.
01:21:14.000There are lawyers that specialize in this.
01:21:17.000They wouldn't have a business if it didn't happen.
01:21:19.000I know at least for you and possibly for Pearl, you guys want to reaffirm traditional masculine roles, which does not assume that men are the nurturing ones.
01:21:26.000And if that's going to be the case, then you're going to continue to run into the problem where men aren't going to get custody because women are going to be seen as the nurturing gender.
01:21:34.000So if you don't want that to be the case, then it makes sense to stand with feminists and want to dismantle those sorts of norms and expectations around what it means to be a man and what it means to be a woman.
01:21:42.000I would say it should be 50-50 custody off the bat.
01:21:45.000Women experience more sexism than men.
01:22:12.000So, when I say, when I think of more, I'm not thinking, like, oh, they have more, they face more sexism.
01:22:16.000is the sexism like hurting you no the same way i was looking at it when i heard sexism i just heard safety yeah that's what i was my main that was the way i was approaching it the topic was basically men experience sexism i don't think anybody would disagree with that um i think the topic was just more sexism like you said uh you know just simple things just as like a man maybe just 10 feet behind you at night you know there are certain thoughts just run into your head shout out to uh jti gifted us up to prince bianney The Brokey.
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01:23:05.000As opposed to women, I think they genuinely do fear for their lives more.
01:23:07.000And I think we should work towards making a safe society for everybody.
01:23:10.000And I think that that's ultimately, you know, what's important.
01:23:13.000Aside from safety, any other examples?
01:23:15.000Yeah, I mean, I think when most people in power are men, and then they can abuse that power by, like, the common joke of, oh, she slept her way to the top.
01:23:22.000Like, that wouldn't be such a common joke if it weren't for women being sexualized and experiencing sexism.
01:23:44.000I feel like a lot of the sexism that men face that really impacts them is from other men.
01:23:48.000Men make fun of each other for, like, getting assaulted.
01:23:51.000Men make fun of each other for, like, not getting the girl.
01:23:54.000Men, like, these are things that if men really wanted, if these men's right activists really wanted to change this notion, they would be treating their fellow man better.
01:24:04.000Yeah, the reason why bullying is so important and ridiculing men for not being masculine enough, why that's important is because, see, it's natural.
01:24:11.000Simping for my favorite content creator, lol.
01:26:01.000And I believe someone said earlier that men, when they talk about the loneliness epidemic, it's only about never getting the girl, but it's never about friends.
01:26:46.000See, the only reason you're able to say something so fucking ludicrous is because you live in a civilized first world fucking country where your personal safety is no longer a real day-to-day concern.
01:27:02.000Your ability to procure food to sustain yourself is no longer a valid concern.
01:27:08.000Let the fucking lights turn off, dude.
01:27:11.000And let's see if masculinity is a real concept, you fucking soy boy bitch.
01:27:17.000Like feeling heard, getting our feelings out there, and like experiencing more empathy.
01:27:20.000We need to, again, destroy the system, destroy the patriarchy, and come up with a system that has empathy for everybody.
01:27:26.000The patriarchy works, you fucking idiot!
01:27:28.000How are you going to destroy the very institution that has allowed you the privilege, and I put a key fucking word on that, privilege, to speak the way that you're speaking right now?
01:28:53.000The only thing I could think of where sexism benefits men is that men are able to have sex with a bunch of women without getting the same negative social stigma.
01:29:10.000That's really the only thing I could think of.
01:29:13.000But everything else, when it comes to sexism, actually benefits women.
01:31:37.000Let's go ahead and give women the same opportunities, even though they're fighting for equality.
01:31:45.000Explain to me how you fight for equality, you want all the same privileges and accesses, but you simply don't qualify for you want all the same privileges and accesses, but you simply don't qualify for If it were up to me, if I was prime minister for a day, er, president...
01:32:10.000Actually, I like the term supreme leader better.
01:32:16.000Shout out to JTI, 45, giving out 25 fucking...
01:32:19.000We've crossed the 7,000 mark on subscribers.
01:33:18.000And this is why no feminist can beat me in a debate.
01:33:22.000Because their arguments hinge upon equality While simultaneously trying to get preferential fucking treatment.
01:33:33.000And I'm one of the few people that will look these dumb bitches in the eye and say, look, if you want equality, there is one NBA. There is one NFL. Title IX is gone.
01:33:45.000There's one physical fitness standard for the military.
01:35:36.000It's like, yeah, sure, unhelpful things, but it's not an otherization in the same way that misogyny is.
01:35:41.000I think that the world has been largely constructed through the male and man lens and in a way that has otherized women.
01:35:49.000And so, yeah, misogyny is more endemic to gender relations rather than misandry being sort of like individual outbursts of reacting to that system.
01:36:46.000Why do you think women are attracted to bad boys so much?
01:36:48.000Have you guys ever actually fucking thought about this shit and like really boiled it down and broke it down and thought to yourself, let's go on a molecular level.
01:37:31.000Because these are, though sounding dysfunctional to a degree, also a man is capable of violence, stronger physically, et cetera.
01:37:40.000These are all traits that women are attracted to because they're symbols of a guy that could potentially be a protector and a provider, right?
01:37:49.000And depending on where the woman is in her life, right?
01:37:52.000The bad boy versus the provider, right?
01:37:54.000Like she's gonna lean one side more, but there's two different spectrums to what women find interesting, right?
01:38:02.000So, the reason why women like misogynists is because misogynists naturally understand the difference between men and women, and women and men that just get it are more attractive than guys that don't get it.
01:38:15.000If you're like this fucking pussy right here on our screen, how many girls do you think this guy gets?
01:39:24.000It's not a social construct, you stupid fuck.
01:39:26.000It's what women are naturally attracted to.
01:39:28.000Just like your natural, well maybe not you 'cause you're a weirdo, but any guy that has any semblance of masculinity or a fucking set of nuts likes a woman that behaves like a woman.
01:39:46.000Okay, and we're going to bring in our disagrees, but I do want to say some of the things that you were saying you hear from men's rights activists, I agree, I've heard that online.
01:40:15.000So I would disagree that you say misandry is not systemic.
01:40:17.000Cultural misandry is evident in a lot of the laws that neglect men.
01:40:21.000Misandry is why homeless men don't have as many shelters.
01:40:23.000It's why we don't take male victims of domestic violence as seriously.
01:40:26.000It's why men's health care is underfunded.
01:40:28.000And there's a psychological phenomenon called the women are wonderful effect, where society and people have less empathy for men in a general sense.
01:40:35.000Now, there may be some nuance there as there could be some negative consequences for women.
01:40:38.000But overall, we see social welfare programs and laws mostly disfavor men.
01:40:43.000And even if it's a male politician who supports that law, he's still catering to his voters.
01:40:48.000And the fact that a male politician makes a decision doesn't resurrect a 19-year-old draftee who was killed in battle.
01:40:52.000So when you say that misandry isn't a thing, I completely disagree.
01:42:02.000When I try and talk about men's issues, I get some very sharp reactions from the left.
01:42:06.000So I just want to respond to that just because it was specifically directed at me.
01:42:09.000In terms of misandry not being systemic, I agree that those issues exist, but a lot of what you're referring to is just the relationship between men having disadvantages due to socioeconomic status and comparing that to benevolent misogyny, which does actually otherize women and is a form of dehumanization that they should be specially cared for and specially undertaken.
01:42:28.000There was a study out of the university.
01:42:34.000Bro, that's why I hate these fucking liberals, man.
01:42:35.000man they just coined stupid terms dehumanization that they should be specially cared for misogyny which does disadvantages due to like socioeconomic status and comparing that to benevolent misogyny which does actually otherize women and is a form of dehumanization that they should be specially cared for and special Bruh!
01:44:42.000So caring for and protecting a woman because she doesn't have the same biological ability to protect herself from another man means you're a benevolent misogynist.
01:45:48.000It's just that the left, the Overton window has shifted.
01:45:51.000They've become more and more and more fucking radical.
01:45:58.000You can't even be a gentleman to these women now without them coming up with some bullshit made up sociology pejorative term about you being a fucking good dude.
01:46:24.000There was a study out of the University of Chicago in 2005 that found that when you actually diversify the amount of judges in a court, sex-based discrimination lessens.
01:46:32.000So the reason why misandry isn't systemic is because we don't live in whatever the opposite of, we don't live in a matriarchy.
01:46:38.000No, misandry actually is absolutely systemic.
01:46:41.000It's just that we don't fucking call it out, stupid.
01:46:44.000You literally have women on TikTok openly saying I hate men.
01:46:48.000There's a podcast out there called I Kill All Men Podcast.
01:46:52.000The difference is that women are not held accountable for being misandrists.
01:49:39.000...discriminated because it's due to them being poor or whatever other sort of specific situation that they're in.
01:49:49.000And I just want to add that the reason there are women-only spaces or women-only shelters is because men are the perpetrators of most of the crime.
01:49:54.000Now, they're also the victims of a lot of the crime, which is why, that's why I didn't agree with the prompt because I think it is that sex- Where the perpetrators and the overall victims.
01:50:02.000Men are far more likely to become the victims of violent crime over women, bro.
01:53:19.000Women are actually more likely to perpetrate domestic violence than men are.
01:53:24.000The thing is, is that And there's a reason why, when you look at lesbian couples, lesbian couples actually have the highest incidence of domestic violence.
01:54:02.000So most of the time when you have domestic violence issues, it's either the woman beats on the guy or they beat each other up, but it's never, it's actually very rarely the man beating the woman up.
01:54:12.000There was a huge meta-analysis date on this, and let me see if I can find it.
01:54:16.000I have it saved in my camera somewhere.
01:54:18.000But that's actually the truth when it comes to domestic violence, guys.
01:54:44.000My ex-wife, when I was going through a divorce, told me that she'd lie to the police in order to file the divorce faster because it was taking too much time.
01:54:50.000Because where I'm from in Canada, it's one year.
01:54:52.000Like, they will tell you that you need to be separated for a year so you have a chance to rekindle.
01:54:56.000But all I'm saying is violence is violence.
01:54:58.000I'm not saying that men are not violent.
01:55:59.000So, the reality is women are just as violent, if not more likely to commit acts of violence against you because they don't deal with the same consequences and ramifications for said violence.
01:56:13.000Matter of fact, they've done an experiment on this on YouTube.
01:56:57.000Men are not taken seriously either, and the point I wanted to bring is to what you said.
01:57:01.000Because you mentioned that earlier, and correct me if I'm wrong, you were saying that men are not encouraged to speak about their feelings.
01:57:08.000I would say largely, that's true, yeah.
01:57:10.000Yet, you're bringing them down in your conversation.
01:57:12.000You're saying that being sexist towards a man is not as big of a deal as being towards a woman.
01:57:17.000So on one point you're saying that men should be able to show their emotions, to live their emotions, however term you want to use.
01:57:26.000But in the next sentence, you're saying that the emotion of a man don't matter as much.
01:57:37.000I'm saying in the descriptive reality of what misandry is versus what misogyny is, it's not actually systemic.
01:57:41.000So I'm having factual disagreement with what men, quote-unquote, are expressing their feelings, which I don't think the majority of men or even a plurality of men are expressing.
01:57:51.000Misandry is absolutely systemic, but again, like I said before, it's that no one gives a fuck what women think, which is why they're able to do it, and it kind of just happens.
01:58:00.000Those sorts of feelings that misandry is like some big burden on them.
01:58:02.000Why are more laws against men, though?
01:58:03.000I mean, there's more laws in the U.S. that are disfavored to men than women.
01:58:12.000Access to certain healthcare programs, prostate cancer, the biggest killer of non-smoking men, is not covered under the ACA. Okay, women in like half the country don't even have a right to like bodily autonomy, don't have access to...
01:59:02.000So, men don't have access to male-only spaces, but men do have access to, and I do believe in a strong social safety net, but there's not male-exclusive spaces because there's not gendered violence of women against men to the same degree that there is in their lives.
01:59:24.000More than one in three women and one in four men have experienced physical violence, rape, or stalking victimization by intimate partner in their lifetime.
01:59:32.000It's done by the American Psychiatric Association.
01:59:39.000Why does it matter if it's the same or not?
01:59:41.000Are you against male-only spaces existing in the first place?
01:59:44.000Not necessarily, but I don't think that it's some widespread systemic issue or that it's the issue that men necessarily need.
01:59:50.000I think that if you had co-ed spaces, I don't see why a co-ed space would be detrimental to men, whereas I do see co-ed spaces can be detrimental to women and the need for women-only spaces.
01:59:59.000But do you think that male victims face certain stigmas and stereotypes?
02:00:02.000I do believe that we need to destigmatize the way that men experience victimhood.
02:00:06.000A lot of men believe that it's demasculating to ask for help, and that is something that, as a feminist, I push up against.
02:00:11.000I also think it's wrong to consider a man less of a man based on, like, how much he earns.
02:00:15.000I do believe that, yeah, we should encourage men to, like, share their feelings.
02:00:19.000What I find ironic in your statements is that you're literally saying that men's feelings don't matter as much.
02:00:24.000No, we're talking about sexism earlier.
02:00:28.000I'm just giving you a descriptive reality of why male-only spaces don't exist.
02:00:31.000I don't think that it would be like the most intrinsic evil in the world if a male-only space existed, but it's not a, like, necessary part of the way that sexual or gender-based violence is experienced by men.
02:00:41.000Since I have been a kid, it has been common in the media to refer to men as trash, to say that men are the problem, men are terrible, etc., etc., to the point that on national TV, a guy got his chopped off and they were laughing about it.
02:00:52.000And nobody said anything and nobody cared.
02:00:55.000And if the reverse happened, I don't think it would be the same outrage.
02:01:03.000And the reason why it isn't is because it's considered demasculating for men to be victims.
02:01:06.000And I think that in order to dismantle that, we should dismantle unhealthy views about masculinity, which is exactly what feminists are trying to do.
02:01:12.000I think if you guys did a good job at that, it's been 100 years since feminism started, you'd maybe have some progress.
02:01:17.000I don't think feminists care about men at all.
02:01:18.000They just want to give women special privileges and treatment.
02:01:21.000You're basically saying that men should be taken serious and their violence should be taken serious, but you're not understanding that when you talk about women being violent, you're talking about it from a patriarchal standpoint.
02:01:30.000It's because patriarchy weaponizes men to be more violent.
02:01:33.000Women are seen as not culpable for their violence.
02:01:36.000It strips them of their agency, and it infantilizes them for when they do commit violence.
02:01:39.000And you guys are upholding that system by not joining us.
02:01:41.000Feminists support gendered laws on domestic violence.
02:01:43.000In the UK in 2020, feminists actually protested against the domestic abuse bill because they didn't like the fact that it was gender neutral.
02:01:48.000The Duluth model in the US, feminists protest the fact that it's gender neutral.
02:01:51.000So it's feminists who want to perpetuate these gender roles by saying laws should be gendered and recognize gender into the factor.
02:03:18.000On X for this, I'll pull it up real quick for you guys.
02:03:21.000And it's just naturally become a male-only space.
02:03:23.000That's why most shelters mostly have men, homeless shelters.
02:03:26.000In Denver, where I live, all the homeless shelters are mostly men.
02:03:29.000That's why there are specific women shelters, because if a woman goes into that shelter, when the lights go out, who knows what's gonna happen to that one little woman in this shelter with all these men.
02:03:36.000And speaking of the domestic violence shelter for men, the one guy that did try to start a domestic violence Shelter for Men, and he was like a big men's rights activist, but in the true sense, wanting men to have what you want.
02:03:46.000Like, domestic violence resources, resources just for them.
02:03:48.000He got so laughed out of the world, the dude ended up unaliving himself.
02:09:04.000They're fucking putting money into the fucking thing.
02:09:06.000And here's the other thing too I wanna let y'all know.
02:09:08.000When you're a creator and you have right wing or far right wing views, you're gonna get silenced to a degree.
02:09:15.000If you like this type of content with guys like me that keep it fucking real, unfortunately, since we are the targets of censorship, the only way that we can keep going is when people support us.
02:09:25.000So I'll be fucking damned if I'm not gonna fucking shout out the people that support me.
02:10:12.000Just like you want acknowledgement when you donate, which I fucking acknowledge you too because I remember your name, that's why I'm calling your dumb ass out right now.
02:10:21.000I stop the show and fucking acknowledge you.
02:10:23.000Give the same fucking level of respect to the people here that are fucking donating and supporting us over here on Twitch and keeping the fucking show going so that you can enjoy it for free.
02:12:21.000Okay, so I actually, I feel like this is perfect for me, so I am a top, top, top OnlyFans creator, and I'm also a lawyer, which is a very weird, you know...
02:12:30.000Yeah, I'm a perfect person to talk about this, and yeah, I have made, I have a lot of, you know, a lot of money from doing OnlyFans, but I was always...
02:12:36.000Oh, yeah, a lot of money from having sex on camera.
02:12:39.000Your videos are all over the fucking place.
02:12:51.000The reason why you're vilified for using your sexual capital to make money is because it doesn't take skill and it's not hard to fucking do.
02:12:57.000You went ahead and became a fucking lawyer that was much harder so you decided to be a 304, take the easy way out, tarnish that education, tarnish that time that you put in to take the easy way out.
02:14:07.000Female nature being displayed in my own rumble chat.
02:14:10.000When I was a lawyer and all throughout school, I was always hated.
02:14:12.000I was always just looked at because I had like a more curvy body and everything.
02:14:15.000So I do think women can capitalize off of their sexual power, but I also think they are also demonized and vilified and even- And deservedly so, they're demonized.
02:16:13.000I'm on the night train Don't go walk over I'm on the night train I'm on the night train And I'm ready to crash and burn Night train Night train I'm on the night train Fill my cup
02:16:33.000I'm on the night train Right in the night train I guess I I guess I guess I guess I'll never learn I'm on the night train Right in the night train Right in the night train
02:21:28.000When they aren't trying to capitalize off of it, people still see them as just that.
02:21:32.000We also see cases of like porn star dying.
02:21:35.000There's a lot of, I feel like a lot of men like to Google at women, like to see them, objectify them, but they don't see them as human.
02:21:42.000So I don't know, so women might capitalize off of that, but I don't necessarily see that as like net positive for them if they're being vilified for doing something that obviously has a market for it.
02:21:54.000Because there are men that literally watch this content, that subscribe to these people, and then they demonize the same people they're giving money to.
02:22:34.000I guess a follow-up, though, that they might ask or that I'm curious about is, do you think there's like a natural, that's just a sort of natural pattern or order to how men and women operate, or do you feel like that's conditioned?
02:23:40.000I do think that that is a little bit of the natural order of things.
02:23:42.000But, like, for instance, I think a big, like, my only really interaction with these man spaces or the manosphere spaces are these, like, red pill podcasts that I've gone on a million times, like Fresh and Fit, whatever, where they bring on women like me that are making all this, oh, you're on only...
02:23:54.000They bring in all these sex workers and then they tell us, we're low value, nobody will ever love us, we're for the streets, and they do all of that, and then my comments get flooded with that.
02:24:02.000No, it's because you've made a bad decision to lower your value, so therefore you're dealing with the consequences of your action, because, like, you are literally being a 304, and people don't respect women that are being 304s.
02:25:31.000When extremely rich, successful, healthy, and good-looking men sleep with a lot of women, even though it's easy for them to do so, they're not looked down on for the same way that...
02:25:36.000Like, for example, a sex worker maybe using her body.
02:25:38.000It's also important to note that, like, this whole idea of, like, sex workers and OnlyFans girls, like, making a ton of money is extremely new.
02:25:45.000Who owns, like, 99% of the actual porn industry in the production studios?
02:25:56.000Women are the ultimate benefactors of female sexuality because women are able to monetize it to a high degree without necessarily giving anything in fucking return.
02:26:59.000Most OnlyFans girls do not make a lot of money.
02:27:01.000They don't, and they're not respected either.
02:27:03.000Are men who were born into wealth and naturally good looking, when they sleep with a lot of women, are they demonized for that and called sluts?
02:27:16.000So it doesn't matter whether or not it was difficult for them to get to a high status or if they were just born into it, being a man doesn't preclude that type of discrimination.
02:27:23.000They're not demonized, but it's generally difficult for men to be selected by a lot of women, and the dating app stats will back that up.
02:27:29.000So again, I know you're asking about demonization, but the original question was, why does Leonardo DiCaprio celebrate it?
02:27:39.000So you just said he's celebrated because it's hard, but you just admitted earlier that a guy who is successful and born into wealth and born into a naturally good-looking body is also celebrated for sleeping a lot of women.
02:28:59.000avenues to try to make a living and then a lot of them when they do go in this, when you say it's easy, it's not easy to make a ton of money on OnlyFans.
02:29:05.000I had no social media following ahead of it.
02:29:07.000You could say, okay, well, you look a certain way or whatever, but a lot of the women that enter this, if it was so easy, they wouldn't be not making money.
02:29:12.000Well, I would disagree that there's no other option.
02:29:14.000You guys can get jobs just like the men.
02:29:16.000And number two, I look at what people say versus what they do.
02:29:18.000You might say that you didn't care about attention, but I look at the way you behave and dress and it would indicate otherwise.
02:29:22.000Well, count to the real job to you, Pearl.
02:29:33.000There is a new episode of Radical Empathy out now.
02:29:35.000I had an interview with an OnlyFans star who is also a virgin.
02:29:39.000Men actually get custody of their children.
02:29:41.000It's 50% of their DNA. Why don't they get 50% custody?
02:29:45.000All right, let's bring in our disagreeers.
02:29:51.000Men typically get custody of their children way more often than not.
02:29:55.000When a woman rightfully and honestly gives her experience of domestic violence in the marriage, she's more likely to lose custody of her children.
02:30:02.000There is no issue with men getting custody.
02:31:10.000Who gets custody the majority of the time, men or women?
02:31:13.000So men who fight for custody actually are far more likely to get it.
02:31:15.000To get back to the question, I found the question somewhat too vague.
02:31:18.000I mean, do feminists want to erase masculinity?
02:31:20.000It's kind of too abstract and vague to answer.
02:31:22.000So my problem is when feminists try and redefine masculinity, where they try and say this is our interpretation of toxic masculinity as we see it.
02:31:30.000That's kind of the problem that I have.
02:31:32.000I don't like it when feminists tell men how they should feel, how they're supposed to feel.
02:31:35.000This is how your experience as a man is supposed to go.
02:31:38.000And that is where I would have the issue with that.
02:31:40.000I would say that, yeah, so people say, oh, masculine, like, men are all supposed to be masculine, and women are always supposed to be feminine, as if there's no overlap.
02:31:45.000While there may be differences between men and women are average, a lot of times those effect sizes are pretty small, and to have a society where we have this rigid, like, you're a woman, therefore this is the best job for you.
02:31:53.000You're a man, so this is the best job for you.
02:31:54.000That's not how you have a flourishing society, actually, based on meritocracy, where the people best suited for a particular role or a particular job or more passionate about it can go do that.
02:32:01.000So if women want to stay at home, they can.
02:32:27.000If the complaint is that feminists, which aren't synonymous with women, obviously we have two male feminists right here, if the complaint is that feminists want to reconstruct a new idea of masculinity that is actually healthy, that allows men to realize when they are victims, when they are going through things like depression or suicidal or alienation, or any matter for that fact, we have to recognize that that is going to be to the benefit of men.
02:33:06.000This is why if you look at the University of Ottawa studies, they show that within the next 10-20 years, 75-90% of caretakers will be women, as in medicine, not just nurses.
02:33:25.000They, whoever they is, is saying that this is what a man should be.
02:33:30.000The thing, men don't deal with their emotions the same way women do.
02:33:33.000Because they're not taught to from childhood because you're a boy, you get a truck, you're a girl, you get a doll, you're gonna be good at cooking, go play in the toy kitchen, you're a big tough man, go get the army soldiers, that's why.
02:33:41.000Do you think you have the special answer of the right way to tell the kids?
02:33:47.000I think when you let a child, when you look at having children as I'm bringing independent thinking little humans into this world, and I want them to grow into whoever they are meant to be, whatever that is, whether it's a male ballerina or a female NFL coach, I want this little person that I love so much to be whatever they want to be.
02:36:11.000I'm a men's rights activist, but that's just the same side of feminism.
02:36:16.000I believe in destroying the patriarchy.
02:36:17.000I believe in destroying the ideas of gender.
02:36:19.000I agree with everything you're saying because- This fucking guy's a weirdo.
02:36:22.000The ideas that you guys are talking about with how men are emasculated, not allowed to cry, or people think their emotions aren't valid, I agree with all that.
02:36:30.000That's not women's fault, and those aren't even, like, masculine traits.
02:36:33.000These are all just ideas that were just fed to us by the patriarchy, and we need to destroy it.
02:36:37.000And why are you a men's rights activist?
02:36:39.000Only because I feel like this side understandably has a lot of bad actors and grifters and there aren't a lot of people on this side who thoroughly align themselves with feminists.
02:36:46.000I have a lot of friends who are feminists.
02:36:48.000I align myself with most trans feminists and feminists of color.
02:36:52.000The reason why I'm mostly on this side is honestly just because I can sympathize with the plight of most men not feeling valid and not feeling heard and I think that should be talked about.
02:37:00.000The problem is is the people who are leading that conversation tend to be folks who are still rooted in the concept of gender and I think that's detrimental to the movement.
02:37:07.000And when you think about it, feminists and men's rights activists can work together.
02:37:19.000Yeah, but all the useless majors are dominated by women.
02:37:22.000So it doesn't change the fact just because you went in to become a lawyer.
02:37:25.000and here's the thing, you became a lawyer and you still wanted to be a 304 instead. - Profession, doctors are women, right?
02:37:30.000This idea that men have to be the providers. - Stupid. - When half of US households have women earning almost as much, as much, or more than men, it's because women are good at these jobs.
02:37:36.000Women are like, I did very well on the outside, I did very well in law school.
02:37:40.000Somebody on the chat said that she's not even a lawyer.
02:37:45.000Somebody was saying that she's, like, never even practiced some shit like that.
02:37:48.000I don't know if that's true or not, but...
02:37:49.000You just sit at home and be nurturers, then in a meritocracy...
02:38:27.000I come from a broken down family where my dad left when I was 14, and he never came back.
02:38:31.000I needed a father figure to teach me what it is to be a man, because a woman cannot teach a boy how to become a man, neither can I teach a girl how to become a woman.
02:38:39.000So in my choice, I want children, I want a woman that will stay with them, that will teach them love, that will teach them to be compassionate.
02:38:46.000And I think their follow-up would be, do you see your partner taking that role as inherently feminine?
02:38:52.000More so than if she wants to be a neurosurgeon.
02:38:53.000Of course, because I believe in the more traditional role.
02:38:56.000But that doesn't mean that you're wrong if your husband wants to stay home.
02:39:27.000I think what you're talking, there is some people that weaponize therapy talk, that basically try to psychoanalyze people and use false stereotypes about them.
02:39:34.000But good, honest therapy, I feel like men, women, everybody could benefit from that.
02:39:38.000And I feel like as men's right advocates, you guys should be striving for men taking their mental health more serious.
02:39:52.000And I feel like a lot of people just need someone to talk to.
02:39:55.000And therapists, that's what they're made for.
02:39:57.000Well, I will say personally, I do think therapy is important, but I do have a problem with how it's seen as the end-all, be-all solution to men.
02:40:04.000To me, America is such an isolationist country that even our forms of healing are isolationists.
02:40:08.000Like, go out somewhere, come back healed.
02:40:33.000For men especially, and again, I can't talk for women, I'm not a woman, but for men especially, we lack the interaction with other men without having women involved.
02:40:43.000This is absolutely why it has made me the man that I am today because I got to bleed, to literally physically hurt somebody else, but it was always in a controlled manner.
02:40:52.000I am a violent man by nature, but I meditate every day.
02:42:33.000I see this a lot in the men's rights activist movement, where basically, again, we turn to women to use their emotional labor to sort of like, you know, kind of just, oh, women are natural caretakers.
02:42:44.000And it's a thing where we need to start doing that for each other.
02:42:46.000Like, again, I've been in three men's mental health spaces, and it's all usually just predominantly just me and a bunch of other progressive men just talking about pretty much just how we feel about the world.
02:42:56.000And that's really, that has done more for me personally than therapy has.
02:42:59.000And I think that's where, like, I'm glad that you have that community with those two men.
02:43:25.000We're going to move on over to Twitter and show some shit.
02:43:31.000So guys come on over to and then and then we'll cut to cast club after but come on over to rumble guys drop the rumble link the home base rumble.com slash fresh and fit come on over ninjas you're going over to Wumble Oh,
02:53:12.000Frank stop Israel just dropped the phosphorus bomb on the health Authority Center in central Beirut The terrorists are using chemical weapons now.
02:58:51.000How the fuck can you sit in front of 45,000 people and say that the most well documented thing that has ever happened in history might not have happened?
02:59:07.000The Shroud of Turin is a more reliable standard for evidence than the 250 independent sources that would justify that the Holocaust exists?
02:59:18.000Listen, this isn't a Holocaust debate.
02:59:35.000I want you to tell me how the fuck you know that Jesus rose from the dead with a lack of any historical evidence that exists from a first-person experience.
03:02:10.000I guess so, because the way he was moving the relationship, it would always surprise me.
03:02:17.000Like, one day he asked me to be his girlfriend and I was like, oh, oh, oh, I thought you were just playing the field, but you're asking me to be your girlfriend.
03:02:24.000And, you know, he would just move the relationship at that speed for whatever reason.
03:02:28.000But, I mean, a man's heart is a man's heart.
03:02:30.000I can't say anything to their, what their heart is like.
03:02:34.000And I'm just, because how actively are you dating there?
03:02:38.000Because you're single now or you're not single?
03:02:41.000Yeah, I'm single now and I've like stopped dating.
03:02:44.000I've just given up because I'm in L.A. and I feel like, you know, and I agree with you when like you start interviewing these people and like you meet a lot of people that have wild standards or they're just kind of, in my opinion, the people that I would go on dates with, they were just not matching me value wise and whatnot.
03:14:14.000On Twitter, when I think Trump tweeted something about Iran being a threat, and some brand user just wrote, hey man, if we crowdfund and give you 100 million, can we please not go to war with Iran?
03:14:52.000Listen, I saw something really funny that I laughed at on Twitter when I think Trump tweeted something about Iran being a threat and some...
03:15:00.000Alright, so guys, just so you guys know, I'm gonna do a tier maker list and I'm gonna get into a very touchy subject.
03:15:09.000We're gonna go to Council Club to do it.
03:18:14.000rain photo that fucking thought telling him that was me so he is probably over that looking for Sophie rain and he's not gonna find her because if you didn't know I'm Sophie rain I feel really bad and I don't know what to do he's flown from America to the UK I bro fuck this bitch
03:19:27.000So, yeah, see, that's the face of a losing man.
03:19:30.000And you said that you were perfectly painted.
03:19:32.000Okay, well, I don't appreciate your use of the slurs, but I guess that's what emotionally immature men, when someone smarter than them, lays down the truth.
03:20:06.000But I would like to specifically clarify that your comment about men being more funny than women was just another unfunny, false fucking comment by an immature man.
03:20:15.000I didn't find it that fucking funny when you were telling us that the Holocaust was fake and that six million Jewish people didn't die.
03:20:23.000I didn't find it that fucking funny when you sat here and you told me that Trump didn't torpedo the border bill, even though he said he did at a rally in Nevada.
03:20:34.000If men were so much more funny than women, then why are you the most unfunny fucking specimen that I've ever had the displeasure of sitting across the damn phone with?
03:31:05.000crazy fucking bitch you you and you know you are there the task of politics
03:31:29.000it is not to be why you are trying to organize them to not to be able to make them together to be able to make them together to make them together but the task of politics must be done these kinds of separation and to be able to overcome a greater ideal and to be able to overcome a greater experience to be able to overcome and I was at the time of the conclusion of the individual unbeknownst to the war
03:31:58.000this destruction of the war hey man there is a reason why I didn't translate this niggas speeches bro to say and over this party the world the German people will be able to fight again on one level to summon to pass *Cheering* And the parties, this class of the population, may be convinced.
03:32:24.000As long as the All-Mectar leaves me, my influence and my will, to be a unendful one, never!
03:32:41.000Never will I be from the task of the Marxist and his allies, to run out of the Dutch land.
03:32:55.000And never will I be here to a compromise.
03:38:29.000Like, just take the L. And to be fair, like, America did, like, I'm not saying that it's anywhere, like, close to what Ukraine's going through, but we did just have a natural disaster on this side of the earth.
03:38:50.000Bro, I hate it when women try to come in and, like...
03:38:53.000You know how women kind of come in and try to de-escalate the situation and bring up something that has nothing to do with the topic at hand and try to speak in educated fashion?
03:39:17.000We give billions upon billions of dollars to Ukraine to fight a war that they can't fucking win.
03:39:21.000The only reason they're even in it still is because we've been giving them billions upon billions of dollars, and they're still fucking losing.
03:39:27.000If it wasn't for the United States and NATO involvement, you guys would have been conquered in three days.
03:39:30.000So you want to sit here and say, oh, we can fight Russia off.