Fresh & Fit - JD Vance VS Tim Walz! Vice President Debate 2024

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

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00:06:38.000 What's up guys?

00:06:38.000 Welcome.

00:06:40.000 Wake up, we're back in the house.

00:06:42.000 Part 2 of the doubleheader.

00:06:43.000 Okay guys, we are here in the house.

00:06:45.000 Welcome.

00:06:46.000 We are going to be covering the debate.

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00:06:51.000 Audio and video is good.

00:06:52.000 You guys should have me on camera right now for everything.

00:06:55.000 Let me know, let me know.

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00:07:04.000 Wave's still spinning better than you guys, though.

00:07:06.000 So, um...

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00:07:12.000 Bye.

00:07:13.000 Yeah, guys.

00:07:14.000 So, we're going ahead.

00:07:17.000 We're going to be doing a stream here in a bit.

00:07:20.000 I got CBS Live right now as we speak. 0.99

00:07:24.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:07:24.000 We got Bills in the house. 1.00

00:07:25.000 Bills is helping me out with some stuff behind the scenes.

00:07:28.000 All right.

00:07:29.000 Well, he does that real quick.

00:07:30.000 So, quick little overview, guys.

00:07:33.000 I went ahead and gave a breakdown of the last debate between, obviously, former President Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris.

00:07:40.000 I don't think Trump won it decisively.

00:07:43.000 I think that he won by the skin of his teeth, which isn't enough.

00:07:46.000 So this debate right here actually is going to be very important because we don't have a decisive victory.

00:07:50.000 The people that supported Trump versus the people that supported Kamala, all they did was go ahead and be more ten toes down on whatever they had picked before.

00:07:59.000 We're going to need a decisive victory from the right to be able to let people know that, quite frankly, the Democrats are not opposed to be a good administration to take office.

00:08:12.000 I mean, they're in right now and people are complaining about the economy.

00:08:15.000 So what the hell do you think is going to happen?

00:08:17.000 I mean, Kamala Harris is literally the second most powerful person in the world, you know, because as vice president, you're the second most powerful person in the world and she hasn't done anything.

00:08:29.000 It is what it is.

00:08:30.000 Right now it looks like CBS has a commercial going.

00:08:32.000 But there are 215,000 people watching this stream right now. 0.98

00:08:37.000 Because this debate obviously is going to be fucking huge. 0.80

00:08:41.000 It's absolutely going to be huge. 0.97

00:08:44.000 Let's see what else we got here.

00:08:46.000 I got my little McCree thing over here, by the way, too.

00:08:48.000 I need to just light it up, though.

00:08:50.000 That's the only thing that kind of bothers me.

00:08:51.000 I need the wire for it.

00:08:55.000 I gotta hit up my guy.

00:08:58.000 If he's watching the stream right now...

00:09:00.000 Hold on one second.

00:09:03.000 Julian.

00:09:04.000 Shout out to you, Julian.

00:09:04.000 Thank you.

00:09:05.000 You gave it to me on the yacht.

00:09:06.000 I got to find the wire to light this thing up though, man. 0.97

00:09:08.000 That's the only thing I'm kind of mad about myself, mad at myself for is like I didn't get to fucking... 0.95

00:09:12.000 I can't find the wire for it, man. 0.91

00:09:15.000 So that's the only thing.

00:09:16.000 So Julian, if you're watching this right now, bro, shoot me a DM on Instagram.

00:09:19.000 Actually, I'll DM you first.

00:09:22.000 I think Bills might be done with what he has going on right now.

00:09:27.000 Doing his thing.

00:09:31.000 Uh...

00:09:32.000 Hold on, I'm trying to...

00:09:34.000 Nah, this ain't him.

00:09:36.000 Looks like they got some propaganda commercial on right now. 1.00

00:09:48.000 There's such fucking fuckery, man, going on. 0.99

00:09:51.000 Alright, let me read some of these chats if there's any. 0.99

00:09:53.000 Guys, get your chats in now before we...

00:09:58.000 Before we get going here, let me see here.

00:10:00.000 We got a bunch of you guys watching on YouTube and on Rumble.

00:10:05.000 Let me see here.

00:10:05.000 I'm looking at the chats.

00:10:12.000 Cool.

00:10:12.000 All right.

00:10:13.000 Let's get this thing cracking. 0.93

00:10:14.000 Presidential debate coverage on CBS News.

00:10:16.000 Our Ed O'Keefe is ensconced with all of our colleagues in the press corps over there in the room down the aisle from the actual debate location.

00:10:24.000 Ed, we've seen major news the day of a debate before and we're sure getting it today.

00:10:31.000 Yeah, John, you remember back in 2016 when you hosted the Republican presidential primary debate and that morning Antonin Scalia died and suddenly you had to...

00:10:39.000 All right, well, this dude is yapping.

00:10:40.000 Here are the two people that are debating.

00:10:42.000 James David Vance, born James Donald Bowman, born in 1984, is an American politician, author, venture capitalist, and marine veteran who served as the junior United States senator from Ohio since 2023.

00:10:52.000 Vance is the Republican Party's nominee for vice president of 2024 United States presidential election.

00:10:59.000 Here he is right here, guys, right?

00:11:00.000 For those of you that don't know, right?

00:11:02.000 People kind of make fun of him, says he has no aura, etc.

00:11:04.000 Here he is when he was a Marine, okay?

00:11:06.000 Then he's going to be debating here, Tim Waltz, okay?

00:11:10.000 He's an American politician.

00:11:11.000 He was born in 1964, former educator and retired U.S. Army non-commissioned officer who has served since 2019 as the 41st governor of Minnesota.

00:11:19.000 He was a member of the U.S. House of Representatives from 2007 to 2019 and the ranking member of the House Veterans Affairs Committee from 2017 to 2019.

00:11:26.000 Walt is the Democratic Party's nominee for vice president of 2024 United States presidential election.

00:11:31.000 He's from Nebraska originally.

00:11:32.000 He joined the Army National Guard and worked in a tanning bed factory in Jonesboro, Arkansas.

00:11:37.000 You know, they consider him like the cool dad or whatever is what they try to market him as.

00:11:41.000 He wears like the camo stuff and everything.

00:11:43.000 So they've been trying to, they call him Tampon Tim, yeah.

00:11:47.000 So he is running alongside Kamala Harris.

00:11:49.000 So that's a quick little overview on who they are.

00:11:51.000 I know that some of you guys, you know, got a lot of international viewers or people that aren't necessarily as politically inclined.

00:11:59.000 So we might as well go ahead and introduce you to who these two individuals are.

00:12:02.000 So as I said before, this debate is more important than others because, quite frankly, I don't think we won the last debate, guys. 0.97

00:12:08.000 So it's going to be important to see what the fuck happens here. 0.88

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00:12:23.000 Alright?

00:12:23.000 ...yourself from a bad night.

00:12:24.000 What are your final thoughts on tonight?

00:12:27.000 Everybody in the press, when we're in the press galleries on the campaign planes, they talk about these vice presidential debates as low impact, but they really are high stakes.

00:12:35.000 Everybody watching tonight knows one of these two men could become president of the United States.

00:12:40.000 The country is going to take a temperature on character, on policy.

00:12:44.000 Who are these people who might lead the country?

00:12:47.000 And one of them might be leading the country should a crisis happen.

00:12:51.000 A heartbeat away from the presidency.

00:12:53.000 We live in a time of assassination attempts on the Republican nominee, of political violence, and of aging politicians.

00:13:00.000 So it's no question that one day one of these people could be president.

00:13:06.000 We hope all people live healthy lives and serve full terms, but you never know in American history, that's what the history always tells us.

00:13:13.000 Nancy, the other big event is these incredible floods in North Carolina, which also is a platform for presidents.

00:13:19.000 It is because handling of natural disasters is often a proxy for voters of competence.

00:13:25.000 They look at how you handle something like that and they say this person is capable of handling big, important things.

00:13:32.000 And that's why President Biden tomorrow is heading to North Carolina and South Carolina and Florida and Georgia the next day.

00:13:37.000 And here we see the vice presidential candidates there.

00:13:40.000 Tim Wall standing a lone man behind his lectern.

00:13:44.000 Ed, give us your last thoughts as we watch here as J.D. Vance is off in the wings for the moment.

00:13:49.000 Oh, there he is.

00:13:51.000 It's performance, performance, performance.

00:13:53.000 That seems obvious, but no faux pas.

00:13:55.000 And they're looking for a viral moment.

00:13:58.000 That's what they'll be looking for tonight.

00:14:00.000 No handshake.

00:14:01.000 No, they shook hands before.

00:14:03.000 There you have it.

00:14:03.000 Governor Walz appears to be taking some notes.

00:14:06.000 J.D. Vance doing the same as our colleagues.

00:14:09.000 And maybe you're shaking hands before the cameras came up.

00:14:12.000 That's right.

00:14:13.000 Well, we have the vice presidential debate coming up in a moment.

00:14:17.000 It will be moderated by our own Nora O'Donnell.

00:14:19.000 In about 45 seconds, chat.

00:14:21.000 Ohio Senator J.D. Vance and Minnesota Governor Tim Walz take the stage.

00:14:25.000 Well, they've taken the stage, so stick with us here and join us also on our streaming channel, CBS News 24-7, for exclusive content you won't see.

00:14:34.000 All right.

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00:16:15.000 Let's get back to it.

00:16:21.000 We have a consequential night ahead and our focus is the issues that matter to you, the voter.

00:16:26.000 Let's introduce the candidates.

00:16:28.000 Minnesota's Democratic Governor Tim Walz and Ohio's Republican Senator J.D. Vance tonight meeting for the first time.

00:16:40.000 I'm Margaret Brennan.

00:16:42.000 In order to have a thoughtful and civil debate, these are the rules that both campaigns have agreed to.

00:16:48.000 Questions will be directed at one candidate who will have two minutes to respond.

00:16:53.000 The other candidate will be allowed two minutes for rebuttal.

00:16:56.000 Then each candidate will get another minute to make further points, with an additional one minute each at the discretion of the moderator.

00:17:04.000 The primary role of the moderators is to facilitate the debate between the candidates, enforce the rules, and provide the candidates with the opportunity to fact-check claims made by each other.

00:17:15.000 CBS News reserves the right to mute the candidates' microphones to maintain decorum.

00:17:20.000 We have not shared the questions or topics with the campaigns.

00:17:24.000 The stage is set.

00:17:25.000 Governor, Senator, thank you for joining us.

00:17:28.000 Let's get started.

00:17:30.000 Tonight our country is facing several unfolding crises.

00:17:33.000 The Middle East is on the brink of war.

00:17:35.000 Americans are suffering from the catastrophic impact of Hurricane Helene.

00:17:39.000 And now a labor strike as 25,000 dock workers from Maine to Texas are picketing.

00:17:44.000 We're going to begin tonight with the Middle East.

00:17:47.000 Margaret.

00:17:48.000 Thank you, Nora.

00:17:49.000 Earlier today, Iran launched its largest attack yet on Israel, but that attack failed thanks to joint U.S. and Israeli defensive action.

00:17:59.000 President Biden has deployed more than 40,000 U.S. military personnel and assets to that region over the past year to try to prevent a regional war.

00:18:09.000 Iran is weakened.

00:18:12.000 But the U.S. still considers it the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world, and it has drastically reduced the time it would take to develop a nuclear weapon.

00:18:21.000 It is down now to one or two weeks' time.

00:18:25.000 Governor Walz, if you were the final voice in the Situation Room, would you support or oppose a preemptive strike by Israel?

00:18:34.000 On Iran. 0.60

00:18:35.000 You have two minutes.

00:18:36.000 Here we go.

00:18:37.000 Thank you.

00:18:37.000 And thank you for those joining home tonight.

00:18:39.000 Let's keep in mind where this started.

00:18:41.000 October 7th, Hamas terrorists massacred over 1,400 Israelis and took prisoners.

00:18:51.000 Israel's ability to be able to defend itself is absolutely fundamental.

00:18:54.000 Getting its hostages back, fundamental.

00:18:57.000 And ending the humanitarian crisis in Iran.

00:19:02.000 But the expansion of Israel and its proxies is an absolute fundamental necessity for the United States to have the steady leadership there. 1.00

00:19:10.000 You saw it experienced today where along with our Israeli partners and our coalition able to stop the incoming But what's fundamental here is that steady leadership is going to matter.

00:19:22.000 It's clear, and the world saw it on that debate stage a few weeks ago, a nearly 80-year-old Donald Trump talking about crowd sizes is not what we need in this moment.

00:19:32.000 But it's not just that.

00:19:33.000 It's those that were closest to Donald Trump that understand how dangerous he is when the world is this dangerous.

00:19:39.000 His chief of staff, John Kelly, said that he was the most flawed human being he'd ever met.

00:19:44.000 And both of his secretaries of defense and his national security advisors said he should be nowhere near the White House.

00:19:53.000 Now, the person closest to them, to Donald Trump, said he's unfit for the highest office.

00:20:00.000 That was Senator Vance.

00:20:01.000 What we've seen out of Vice President Harris is we've seen steady leadership.

00:20:06.000 We've seen a calmness that is able to be able to draw on the coalitions to bring them together.

00:20:12.000 Understanding that our allies matter.

00:20:15.000 When our allies see Donald Trump Turn towards Vladimir Putin.

00:20:20.000 Turn towards North Korea. 0.62

00:20:23.000 When we start to see that type of fickleness around holding the coalitions together, we will stay committed.

00:20:29.000 And as the Vice President said today is, we will protect our forces and our allied forces, and there will be consequences.

00:20:36.000 Governor, your time is up.

00:20:37.000 Senator Vance, the same question.

00:20:39.000 Would you support or oppose a preemptive strike by Israel on Iran?

00:20:45.000 You have two minutes.

00:20:46.000 So, Margaret, I want to answer the question.

00:20:47.000 First of all, thanks, Governor.

00:20:49.000 Thanks to CBS for hosting the debate.

00:20:50.000 And thanks, most importantly, to the American people who are watching this evening and caring enough about this country to pay attention to this vice presidential debate.

00:20:57.000 I want to answer the question, but I want to actually give an introduction to myself a little bit, because I recognize a lot of Americans don't know who either one of us are.

00:21:03.000 I was raised in a working-class family.

00:21:06.000 My mother required food assistance for periods of her life. 0.98

00:21:08.000 My grandmother required Social Security help to raise me.

00:21:12.000 And she raised me in part because my own mother struggled with addiction for a big chunk of my early life.

00:21:16.000 I went to college on the GI Bill after I enlisted in the Marine Corps and served in Iraq.

00:21:21.000 And so I stand here asking to be your vice president with extraordinary gratitude for this country, for the American dream that made it possible for me to live my dreams.

00:21:29.000 And most importantly, I know that a lot of you are worried about the chaos in the world and the feeling that the American dream is unattainable.

00:21:37.000 I want to try to convince you tonight, over the next 90 minutes, that if we get better leadership in the White House, if we get Donald Trump back in the White House, the American dream is going to be attainable once again.

00:21:47.000 Now, to answer this particular question, we have to remember that as much as Governor Walz just accused Donald Trump of being an agent of chaos, Donald Trump actually delivered stability in the world, and he did it by establishing effective deterrence.

00:22:00.000 People were afraid of stepping out of line.

00:22:02.000 Iran, which launched this attack, has received over $100 billion in unfrozen assets thanks to the Kamala Harris administration.

00:22:11.000 What do they use that money for?

00:22:12.000 They use it to buy weapons that they're now launching against our allies and, God forbid, potentially launching against the United States as well.

00:22:19.000 Donald Trump recognized that for people to fear the United States, you needed peace through strength.

00:22:24.000 They needed to recognize that if they got out of line, the United States' global leadership would put stability and peace back in the world.

00:22:32.000 Now, you asked about a preemptive strike, Margaret, and I want to answer the question, look, it is up to Israel what they think they need to do to keep their country safe, and we should support our allies wherever they are when they're fighting the bad guys.

00:22:43.000 I think that's the right approach to take with the Israel question.

00:22:47.000 Thank you, Senator.

00:22:48.000 Governor Walz, do you care to respond to any of the allegations?

00:22:52.000 Well, look, Donald Trump was in office.

00:22:53.000 We'll sometimes hear a revisionist history, but when Donald Trump was in office, it was Donald Trump who—we had a coalition of nations that had boxed Iran's nuclear program in, the inability to advance it.

00:23:06.000 Donald Trump pulled that program and put nothing else in its place.

00:23:10.000 So Iran is closer to a nuclear weapon than they were before because of Donald Trump's fickle leadership.

00:23:15.000 And when Iran shot down an American aircraft in international airspace, Donald Trump tweeted, because that's the standard diplomacy of Donald Trump.

00:23:24.000 And when Iranian missiles did fall near U.S. troops and they received traumatic brain injuries, Donald Trump wrote it off as headaches.

00:23:35.000 Look, our allies understand that Donald Trump is fickle.

00:23:39.000 He will go to whoever has the most flattery or where it makes sense to him.

00:23:43.000 Steady leadership like you witnessed today, like you witnessed in April.

00:23:47.000 Both Iranian attacks were repelled.

00:23:49.000 Our coalition is strong, and we need the steady leadership that Kamala Harris is providing.

00:23:54.000 Senator Vance, the U.S. did have a diplomatic deal with Iran to temporarily pause parts of its nuclear program, and President Trump did exit that deal.

00:24:04.000 He recently said, just five days ago, the U.S. must now make a diplomatic deal with Iran because the consequences are impossible.

00:24:15.000 Did he make a mistake?

00:24:16.000 You have one minute.

00:24:17.000 Well, first of all, Margaret, diplomacy is not a dirty word, but I think that's something that Governor Walz just said is quite extraordinary.

00:24:23.000 You yourself just said Iran is as close to a nuclear weapon today as they have ever been.

00:24:28.000 And, Governor Walz, you blame Donald Trump.

00:24:30.000 Who has been the vice president for the last three and a half years?

00:24:33.000 And the answer is your running mate, not mine.

00:24:35.000 Donald Trump consistently made the world more secure.

00:24:39.000 Now we talk about the sequence of events that led us to where we are right now, and you can't ignore October the 7th, which I appreciate Governor Walz bringing up.

00:24:49.000 But when did Iran and Hamas and their proxies attack Israel?

00:24:53.000 It was during the administration of Kamala Harris.

00:24:56.000 Governor Walz can criticize Donald Trump's tweets, but effective, smart diplomacy and peace through strength is how you bring stability back to a very broken world.

00:25:06.000 Donald Trump has already done it once before.

00:25:08.000 Ask yourself at home, when was the last time—I'm 40 years old—when was the last time that an American president didn't have a major conflict breakout?

00:25:17.000 The only answer is during the four years that Donald Trump was president.

00:25:20.000 Gentlemen, we have a lot to get to.

00:25:22.000 Nora?

00:25:23.000 Margaret, thank you.

00:25:23.000 Let's turn now to Hurricane Helene.

00:25:26.000 The storm could become one of the deadliest on record.

00:25:30.000 More than 160 people are dead and hundreds more are missing.

00:25:35.000 Scientists say climate change makes these hurricanes larger, stronger, and more deadly because of the historic rainfall.

00:25:44.000 Senator Vance, according to CBS News polling, 7 in 10 Americans and more than 60 percent of Republicans under the age of 45 favor the U.S. taking steps to try and reduce climate change.

00:25:57.000 Senator, what responsibility would the Trump administration have to try and reduce the impact of climate change?

00:26:04.000 I'll give you two minutes.

00:26:05.000 Sure.

00:26:06.000 So, first of all, let's start with the hurricane because it's an unbelievable, unspeakable human tragedy.

00:26:11.000 I just saw today, actually, a photograph of two grandparents on a roof with a six-year-old child, and it was the last photograph ever taken of them because the roof collapsed and those innocent people lost their lives.

00:26:21.000 And I'm sure Governor Walz joins me in saying our hearts go out to those innocent people, our prayers go out to them, and we want as robust and aggressive as a federal response as we can get to save as many lives as possible.

00:26:32.000 And then, of course, afterwards, I mean, these are communities that I love.

00:26:37.000 Some of them I know very personally in Appalachia, all across the Southeast.

00:26:41.000 They need their government to do their job.

00:26:44.000 And I commit that when Donald Trump is president again, the government will put the citizens of this country first when they suffer from a disaster.

00:26:51.000 Now, Nora, you asked about climate change.

00:26:52.000 I think this is a very important issue.

00:26:54.000 Look, a lot of people are justifiably worried about all these crazy weather patterns.

00:26:58.000 I think it's important for us, first of all, to say Donald Trump and I support clean air, clean water.

00:27:03.000 We want the environment to be cleaner and safer.

00:27:05.000 But one of the things that I've noticed some of our Democratic friends talking a lot about Is a concern about carbon emissions, this idea that carbon emissions drives all of the climate change.

00:27:15.000 Well, let's just say that's true.

00:27:16.000 Just for the sake of argument, so we're not arguing about weird science, let's just say that's true.

00:27:20.000 Well, if you believe that, what would you want to do?

00:27:23.000 The answer is that you'd want to reshore as much American manufacturing as possible, and you'd want to produce as much energy as possible in the United States of America, because we're the cleanest economy in the entire world.

00:27:34.000 What have Kamala Harris's policies actually led to? 0.99

00:27:37.000 More energy production in China, more manufacturing overseas, more doing business in some of the dirtiest parts of the entire world. 0.99

00:27:45.000 And when I say that, I mean the amount of carbon emissions they're doing per unit of economic output.

00:27:50.000 So if we actually care about getting cleaner air and cleaner water, the best thing to do is to double down and invest in American workers and the American people.

00:27:58.000 And unfortunately, Kamala Harris has done exactly the opposite. 1.00

00:28:02.000 Governor Walz, you have two minutes to respond.

00:28:04.000 Well, we got close to an agreement because all those things are happening.

00:28:07.000 Look, first of all, it is a horrific tragedy with this hurricane.

00:28:12.000 And my heart goes out to the folks that are down there in contact with the governors.

00:28:17.000 I serve as...

00:28:19.000 Co-chair of the Council of Governors as we work together on these emergency managements.

00:28:22.000 Governors know no partisanship.

00:28:24.000 They work together to solve the governors and the emergency responders on the ground.

00:28:28.000 Those happen on the front end.

00:28:30.000 The federal government comes in, makes sure they're there to that we recover.

00:28:33.000 But we're still in that phase where we need to make sure that they're staying there, staying focused.

00:28:37.000 Now look, coming back to the climate change issue, there's no doubt this thing roared onto the scene faster and stronger than anything we've seen.

00:28:44.000 Senator Vance has said that there's a climate problem in the past.

00:28:47.000 Donald Trump called it a hoax and then joked that these things would make more beachfront property to be able to invest in.

00:28:53.000 What we've seen out of the Harris administration now, the Biden-Harris administration, is we've seen this investment.

00:28:59.000 We've seen massive investments.

00:29:02.000 Global history that we've seen in the Inflation Reduction Act has created jobs all across the country.

00:29:08.000 2,000 in Jeffersonville, Ohio, taking the EV technology that we invented and making it here.

00:29:13.000 200,000 jobs across the country.

00:29:16.000 The largest solar manufacturing plant in North America sits in Minnesota.

00:29:20.000 But my farmers know climate change is real.

00:29:22.000 They've seen 500-year droughts.

00:29:24.000 500-year floods back to back.

00:29:26.000 But what they're doing is adapting, and this has allowed them to tell me, look, I harvest corn, I harvest soybean, and I harvest wind.

00:29:32.000 We are producing more natural gas and more oil at any time than we ever have.

00:29:36.000 We're also producing more clean energy.

00:29:39.000 So the solution for us is to continue to move forward that climate change is real.

00:29:45.000 Reducing our impact is absolutely critical, but this is not a false choice.

00:29:50.000 You can do that at the same time you're creating the jobs that we're seeing all across the country.

00:29:54.000 That's exactly what this administration has done.

00:29:57.000 We are seeing us becoming an energy superpower for the future, not just the current.

00:30:02.000 And that's what absolutely makes sense.

00:30:03.000 And then we start thinking about how do we mitigate these disasters?

00:30:08.000 Thank you.

00:30:09.000 Senator, I want to give you an opportunity to respond there.

00:30:11.000 The governor mentioned that President Trump has called climate change a hoax.

00:30:15.000 Do you agree?

00:30:16.000 Well, look, what the president has said is that if the Democrats, in particular Kamala Harris and her leadership, if they really believe that climate change is serious, what they would be doing is more manufacturing and more energy production in the United States of America, and that's not what they're doing.

00:30:31.000 So, clearly, Kamala Harris herself doesn't believe her own rhetoric on this.

00:30:35.000 If she did, she would actually agree with Donald Trump's energy policies.

00:30:38.000 Now, something Governor Walz said I think is important to touch upon, because when we talk about clean energy, I think that's a slogan that often the Democrats will use here.

00:30:48.000 I'm talking, of course, about the Democratic leadership.

00:30:50.000 And the real issue is that if you're spending hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars of American taxpayer money on solar panels that are made in China, number one, you're going to make the economy dirtier. 0.99

00:31:01.000 We should be making more of those solar panels here in the United States of America.

00:31:05.000 Some of them are, Tim, but a lot of them are being made overseas in China, especially the components that go into those solar panels.

00:31:11.000 So if you really want to make the environment cleaner, you've got to invest in more energy production.

00:31:17.000 We haven't built a nuclear facility, I think, one in the past 40 years.

00:31:20.000 Natural gas, we've got to invest more in it.

00:31:22.000 Kamala Harris has done the opposite.

00:31:24.000 That's raised energy prices and also meant that we're doing more by the climate.

00:31:28.000 Governor, would you like to respond?

00:31:30.000 Well, look, we're producing more natural gas than we ever have.

00:31:33.000 There's no moratorium on that.

00:31:34.000 We're producing more oil.

00:31:35.000 But the folks know, and like I said again, these are not liberal folks.

00:31:40.000 These are not folks that are Green New Deal folks.

00:31:42.000 These are farmers that have been drought one year, massive flooding the next year.

00:31:46.000 They understand that it makes sense.

00:31:48.000 Look, our number one export cannot be topsoil from erosion from these massive storms.

00:31:54.000 We saw it in Minnesota this summer.

00:31:56.000 And thinking about how do we respond to that, we're thinking ahead on this.

00:32:00.000 And what Kamala Harris has been able to do in Minnesota, we're starting to weatherproof some of these things.

00:32:04.000 The infrastructure law that was passed allows us to think about mitigation in the future.

00:32:09.000 How do we make sure that we're protecting by burying our power lines?

00:32:12.000 How do we make sure that we're protecting lakefronts and things that we're seeing more and more of?

00:32:16.000 But to call it a hoax and to take the oil company executives to Mar-a-Lago, say, give me money for my campaign, and I'll let you do whatever you want.

00:32:25.000 We can be smarter about that, and an all-above energy policy is exactly what she's doing, creating those jobs right here. 1.00

00:32:32.000 Governor, your time is up.

00:32:33.000 The overwhelming consensus among scientists is that the Earth's climate is warming at an unprecedented rate.

00:32:38.000 Margaret?

00:32:39.000 Thank you, Nora.

00:32:40.000 We're going to turn now to immigration.

00:32:42.000 The crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border consistently ranks as one of the top issues for American voters.

00:32:48.000 I'll give my take on that in a little bit.

00:32:50.000 Senator Vance.

00:32:51.000 Your campaign is pledging to carry out the largest mass deportation plan in American history and to use the US military to do so.

00:33:00.000 Could you be more specific about exactly how this will work?

00:33:04.000 For example, would you deport parents who have entered the US illegally and separate them from any of their children who were born on US soil?

00:33:13.000 You have two minutes.

00:33:15.000 So first of all, Margaret, before we talk about deportations, we have to stop the bleeding.

00:33:19.000 We have a historic immigration crisis because Kamala Harris started and said that she wanted to undo all of Donald Trump's border policies. 0.98

00:33:28.000 94 executive orders suspending deportations, decriminalizing illegal aliens, We're massively increasing the asylum fraud that exists in our system.

00:33:37.000 That has opened the floodgates.

00:33:39.000 And what it's meant is that a lot of fentanyl is coming into our country.

00:33:42.000 I had a mother who struggled with opioid addiction and has gotten clean.

00:33:46.000 I don't want people who are struggling with addiction to be deprived of their second chance because Kamala Harris let in fentanyl into our communities at record levels.

00:33:55.000 So you've got to stop the bleeding.

00:33:57.000 You've got to reimplement Donald Trump's border policy's Build the wall.

00:34:01.000 Reimplement deportations.

00:34:03.000 And that gets me to your point, Margaret, about what do we actually do?

00:34:06.000 So we've got 20, 25 million illegal aliens who are here in the country.

00:34:09.000 What do we do with them?

00:34:10.000 I think the first thing that we do is we start with the criminal migrants. 1.00

00:34:14.000 About a million of those people have committed some form of crime in addition to crossing the border illegally.

00:34:19.000 I think you start with deportations on those folks.

00:34:23.000 And then I think you make it harder for illegal aliens to undercut the wages of American workers. 0.99

00:34:27.000 A lot of people will go home if they can't work for less than minimum wage in our own country.

00:34:32.000 And by the way, that'll be really good for our workers who just want to earn a fair wage for doing a good day's work.

00:34:37.000 And the final point, Margaret, is you ask about family separation.

00:34:40.000 Right now, in this country, Margaret, we have 320,000 children that the Department of Homeland Security has effectively lost.

00:34:48.000 Some of them have been sex trafficked.

00:34:50.000 Some of them, hopefully, are at homes with their families.

00:34:53.000 Some of them have been used as drug trafficking mules.

00:34:55.000 The real family separation policy in this country is, unfortunately, Kamala Harris's wide-open southern border. 1.00

00:35:02.000 And I'd ask my fellow Americans to remember, when she came into office, she said she was going to do this.

00:35:08.000 Real leadership would be saying, you know what?

00:35:09.000 I screwed up.

00:35:10.000 We're going to go back to Donald Trump's border policies.

00:35:12.000 I wish that she would do that.

00:35:14.000 It would be good for all of us.

00:35:16.000 Governor, do you care to respond to any of those specific allegations, including that the vice president is, quote, letting in fentanyl and using kids as drug mules, among other things, regarding children?

00:35:30.000 Yeah, well, the drug mule is not true.

00:35:31.000 But I will say about this, about the fentanyl, because this is a crisis of this, the opioid crisis.

00:35:35.000 And the good news on this is, is the last 12 months saw the largest decrease in opioid deaths in our nation's history.

00:35:40.000 30% decrease in Ohio.

00:35:42.000 But there's still more work to do.

00:35:44.000 But let's go back to this on immigration.

00:35:46.000 Kamala Harris was the attorney general of the largest state in a border state in California. 0.99

00:35:50.000 She's the only person in this race who prosecuted transnational gangs for human trafficking and drug interventions.

00:35:55.000 She was in San Francisco.

00:35:56.000 We all want to solve this.

00:35:58.000 Most of us want to solve this, and that is the United States Congress.

00:36:03.000 That's the Border Patrol agents.

00:36:04.000 That's the Chamber of Commerce.

00:36:06.000 That's most Americans out here.

00:36:07.000 That's why we had the fairest and the toughest bill on immigration that this nation's seen.

00:36:14.000 It was crafted by a conservative Senator from Oklahoma, James Lankford.

00:36:18.000 I know him.

00:36:19.000 He's super conservative, but he's a man of principle, wants to get it done.

00:36:21.000 Democrats and Republicans worked on this piece of legislation.

00:36:24.000 The Border Patrol said, this is what we need in here.

00:36:27.000 These are the experts.

00:36:28.000 And the Chamber of Commerce and the Wall Street Journal said, pass this thing.

00:36:31.000 Kamala Harris helped get there.

00:36:32.000 1,500 new border agents.

00:36:35.000 Detection for drugs, DOJ money to speed up the adjudications on this, just what America wants. 0.98

00:36:42.000 But as soon as I was getting ready to pass and actually tackle this, Donald Trump said no, told them to vote against it, because it gives him a campaign issue.

00:36:51.000 It gives him to—what would Donald Trump talk about if we actually did some of these things?

00:36:54.000 And they need to be done by the legislature.

00:36:57.000 You can't just do this through the executive branch.

00:37:00.000 So, look, we have the options to do this.

00:37:02.000 Donald Trump had four years.

00:37:04.000 He had four years to do this, and he promised you, America, how easy it would be.

00:37:08.000 I'll build you a big, beautiful wall, and Mexico will pay for it. 0.98

00:37:12.000 Less than 2% of that wall got built, and Mexico didn't pay a dime.

00:37:16.000 But here we are again, nine years after he came down that escalator, dehumanizing people and telling them what he was going to do.

00:37:24.000 As far as a deportation plan, at one point, Senator Vance said it was so unworkable to be laughable.

00:37:30.000 So that's where we're at.

00:37:31.000 Pass the bill.

00:37:32.000 She'll sign it.

00:37:33.000 Governor, your time is up.

00:37:35.000 Senator, the question was, will you separate parents from their children, even if their kids are U.S. citizens?

00:37:42.000 They want to harp on that.

00:37:43.000 Margaret, my point is that we already have massive child separations thanks to Kamala Harris's open border. 0.99

00:37:48.000 And I didn't accuse Kamala Harris of inviting drug mules.

00:37:51.000 I said that she enabled the Mexican drug cartels to operate freely in this country.

00:37:55.000 And we know that they use children as drug mules. 0.92

00:37:58.000 And it is a disgrace.

00:37:59.000 And it has to stop.

00:38:01.000 Look, I think what Tim said just doesn't pass the smell test.

00:38:04.000 For three years, Kamala Harris went out bragging that she was going to undo Donald Trump's border policy. 1.00

00:38:10.000 She did exactly that.

00:38:11.000 We had a record number of illegal crossings.

00:38:13.000 We had a record number of fentanyl coming into our country.

00:38:16.000 And now, now that she's running for president, or a few months before, she says that somehow she got religion and cared a lot about a piece of legislation.

00:38:24.000 The only thing that she did when she became the vice president, when she became the appointed border czar, was to undo 94 Donald Trump executive actions that opened the border. 0.91

00:38:36.000 This problem is leading to massive problems in the United States of America.

00:38:41.000 Parents who can't afford health care, schools that are overwhelmed, it's got to stop and it will when Donald Trump is president.

00:38:46.000 Senator, your time is up.

00:38:48.000 Governor, what about our CBS News polling, which does show that a majority of Americans, more than 50%, support mass deportations?

00:38:58.000 Look, we fixed this issue with a bill that is necessary, but the issue on this is, this is what happens when you don't want to solve it.

00:39:05.000 You demonize it.

00:39:06.000 And we saw this.

00:39:07.000 And Senator Vance—and it surprises me on this—talking about and saying, I will create stories to bring attention to this.

00:39:14.000 That vilified a large number of people who were here legally in the community of Springfield.

00:39:19.000 The Republican governor said, it's not true.

00:39:22.000 Don't do it.

00:39:23.000 There's consequences for this.

00:39:25.000 There's consequences.

00:39:25.000 We could come together.

00:39:26.000 Senator Lankford did it.

00:39:27.000 We could come together and solve this if we didn't let Donald Trump continue to make it an issue.

00:39:32.000 And the consequences in Springfield were the governor had to send State law enforcement to escort kindergarteners to school.

00:39:40.000 I believe Senator Vance wants to solve this, but by standing with Donald Trump and not working together to find a solution, it becomes a talking point.

00:39:49.000 And when it becomes a talking point like this, we dehumanize and villainize other human beings.

00:39:55.000 Governor, your time is up.

00:39:57.000 Senator, I'll give you one minute, but let me just ask you the question first.

00:40:01.000 The governor has made the point, and I think as a sitting lawmaker, you know that Congress controls the purse strings and any funding.

00:40:10.000 So you have said repeatedly that Donald Trump would, through executive action, solve this.

00:40:17.000 Do you disagree?

00:40:19.000 That Congress controls the purse strings and would need to support many of the changes that you would actually want to implement.

00:40:26.000 You have one minute.

00:40:27.000 Look, Margaret, first of all, the gross majority of what we need to do at the southern border is just empowering law enforcement to do their job.

00:40:33.000 I've been to the southern border more than our borders are.

00:40:35.000 Kamala Harris has been.

00:40:36.000 And it's actually heartbreaking.

00:40:37.000 Because the Border Patrol agents, they just want to be empowered to do their job.

00:40:41.000 Of course, additional resources would help, but most of this is about the president and the vice president empowering our law enforcement to say, if you try to come across the border illegally, you've got to stay in Mexico, you've got to go back through proper channels.

00:40:54.000 Now, Governor Walz brought up the community of Springfield, and he's very worried about the things that I've said in Springfield.

00:41:01.000 Look, in Springfield, Ohio, and in communities all across this country, you've got schools that are overwhelmed.

00:41:07.000 You've got hospitals that are overwhelmed.

00:41:09.000 You have got housing that is totally unaffordable because we brought in millions of illegal immigrants to compete with Americans for scarce homes. 1.00

00:41:17.000 The people that I'm most worried about in Springfield, Ohio, are the American citizens who have had their lives destroyed by Kamala Harris's open border.

00:41:25.000 It is a disgrace, Tim.

00:41:27.000 And I actually think—I agree with you.

00:41:28.000 I think you want to solve this problem, but I don't think that Kamala Harris does.

00:41:32.000 Senator, your time is up.

00:41:33.000 Governor, you have one minute to respond.

00:41:35.000 Yeah, well, it is law enforcement that asked for the bill.

00:41:39.000 They helped craft it.

00:41:40.000 They're the ones that supported it.

00:41:42.000 That's because they know we need to do this.

00:41:44.000 Look, this issue of continuing to bring this up, of not dealing with it, of blaming migrants for everything.

00:41:52.000 On housing, we could talk a little bit about Wall Street speculators buying up housing and making them less affordable.

00:41:57.000 But it becomes a blame.

00:41:59.000 Look, this bill also gives the money necessary to adjudicate.

00:42:04.000 I agree.

00:42:04.000 It should not take seven years for an asylum claim to be done.

00:42:07.000 This bill gets it done in 90 days.

00:42:09.000 Then you start to make a difference in this, and you start to adhere to what we know, American principles.

00:42:15.000 I don't talk about my faith a lot, but Matthew 2540 talks about, to the least amongst us, you do unto me.

00:42:21.000 I think that's true of most Americans.

00:42:24.000 They simply want order to it.

00:42:26.000 This bill does it.

00:42:27.000 It's funded.

00:42:28.000 It's supported by the people who do it.

00:42:30.000 And it lets us keep our dignity about how we treat other people.

00:42:34.000 Thank you, Governor.

00:42:35.000 And just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio, does have a large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status, temporary protected status.

00:42:46.000 Senator, we have so much to get to.

00:42:48.000 We're going to turn out of the economy.

00:42:51.000 Thank you.

00:42:52.000 The rules were that you guys weren't going to fact check.

00:42:54.000 And since you're fact checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on.

00:42:58.000 So there's an application called the CBP 1L, where you can go on as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for parole, and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border wand.

00:43:13.000 That is not a person coming in, applying for a green card and waiting for 10 years.

00:43:17.000 That is the facilitation of a legal immigration, Margaret, by our own.

00:43:21.000 Thank you, Senator, for describing the legal process.

00:43:23.000 We have so much to get to, Senator. 1.00

00:43:26.000 Fuck you, CBS. Let's go. 1.00

00:43:29.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:43:30.000 I'm going to answer my question. 1.00

00:43:31.000 Oh, they muted his mic.

00:43:36.000 Gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut.

00:43:40.000 We have so much we want to get to.

00:43:42.000 Thank you for explaining the legal process.

00:43:44.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:43:44.000 You want to fucking mic check them? 0.97

00:43:46.000 Yeah, let's go, baby. 1.00

00:43:48.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:43:54.000 Governor Walz, Vice President Harris unveiled a plan that includes billions in tax credits for manufacturing, housing, and a renewed child tax credit. 0.99

00:44:02.000 The Wharton School says your proposals will increase the nation's deficit by $1.2 trillion.

00:44:09.000 How would you pay for that without ballooning the deficit?

00:44:12.000 Governor, I'll give you two minutes.

00:44:13.000 Yeah, thank you.

00:44:15.000 And Kamala Harris and I do believe in the middle class because that's where we come from.

00:44:18.000 We both grew up in that.

00:44:20.000 We understand.

00:44:20.000 So those of you out there listening tonight, you're hearing a lot of stuff back and forth, and it's good.

00:44:24.000 It's healthy.

00:44:24.000 That's what this was supposed to happen.

00:44:26.000 You should be listening.

00:44:27.000 How's this going to impact me?

00:44:29.000 The bold forward plan that Kamala Harris put out there is one is talking about this housing issue.

00:44:34.000 The one thing is there's three million new houses proposed under this plan with down payment assistance on the front end to get you in a house.

00:44:41.000 A house is much more than just an asset to be traded somewhere.

00:44:45.000 It's foundational to where you're at.

00:44:47.000 And then making sure that the things you buy every day, whether they be prescription drugs or other things, that there's fairness in that.

00:44:53.000 Look, the $35 insulin is a good thing, but it costs $5 to make insulin.

00:44:58.000 They were charging $800 before this law went into effect.

00:45:01.000 As far as the housing goes, I've seen it in Minnesota.

00:45:04.000 12% more houses in Minneapolis.

00:45:06.000 Prices went down on rent 4%.

00:45:07.000 It's working.

00:45:09.000 And then making sure tax cuts go to the middle class.

00:45:11.000 $6,000 child tax credit, we have one in Minnesota, reduces Childhood poverty by a third.

00:45:17.000 We save money in the long run, and we do the right thing for families.

00:45:20.000 And then getting businesses off the ground.

00:45:22.000 The law as it stands right now is $5,000 tax credit for small business, increasing that to $50,000.

00:45:27.000 Now, this is a philosophical difference between us.

00:45:30.000 Donald Trump made a promise, and I'll give you this.

00:45:32.000 He kept it.

00:45:33.000 He took folks to Mar-a-Lago, said, you're rich as hell, I'm going to give you a tax cut.

00:45:36.000 He gave the tax cuts that predominantly went to the top class.

00:45:39.000 What happened there was an $8 trillion increase in the national debt, the largest ever.

00:45:44.000 Now he's proposing a 20% consumption or sales tax on everything we bring in.

00:45:50.000 Everyone agrees, including businesses, it would be destabilizing it, it would increase inflation, and potentially lead to a recession.

00:45:57.000 Look, this is simple for you.

00:45:59.000 Where are we going?

00:46:00.000 Kamala Harris has said to do the things she wants to do, we'll just ask the wealthiest to pay their fair share. 1.00

00:46:05.000 When you do that, our system works best, more people are participating in it, and folks have the things that they need.

00:46:12.000 Senator, I want to give you a moment to respond on that.

00:46:14.000 But similarly, the Wharton School has done an analysis of the Trump plan and says it would increase the nation's deficit by $5.8 trillion.

00:46:23.000 My question is the same for you.

00:46:25.000 How do you pay for all that without ballooning the deficit?

00:46:28.000 I'll give you two minutes.

00:46:29.000 Well, first of all, you're going to hear a lot from Tim Walsh this evening, and you just heard it in the answer.

00:46:34.000 A lot of what Kamala Harris proposes to do, and some of it, I'll be honest with you, it even sounds pretty good.

00:46:40.000 Here's what you won't hear, is that Kamala Harris has already done it. 1.00

00:46:43.000 Because she's been the vice president for three and a half years, she had the opportunity to enact all of these great policies, and what she's actually done instead is drive the cost of food higher by 25 percent.

00:46:56.000 Drive the cost of housing higher by about 60 percent.

00:46:59.000 Open the American Southern border and make middle class life unaffordable for a large number of Americans.

00:47:05.000 If Kamala Harris has such great plans for how to address middle class problems, then she ought to do them now. 1.00

00:47:11.000 Not when asking for a promotion, but in the job the American people gave her three and a half years ago. 0.54

00:47:16.000 And the fact that she isn't tells you a lot about how much you can trust her actual plans.

00:47:22.000 Now, Donald Trump's economic plan is not just a plan, but it's also a record.

00:47:26.000 A lot of those same economists attack Donald Trump's plans, and they have PhDs, but they don't have common sense, and they don't have wisdom.

00:47:33.000 Because Donald Trump's economic policies delivered the highest take-home pay in a generation in this country, 1.5 percent inflation, and to boot, peace and security all over the world.

00:47:44.000 So when people say that Donald Trump's economic plan doesn't make sense, I say look at the record.

00:47:50.000 He delivered rising take-home pay for American workers.

00:47:53.000 Now, Tim admirably admits that they want to undo the Trump tax cuts.

00:47:57.000 But if you look at what was so different about Donald Trump's tax cuts, even from previous Republican tax cut plans, is that a lot of those resources went to giving more take-home pay to middle-class and working-class Americans.

00:48:09.000 It was passed in 2017, and you saw an American economic boom unlike we've seen in a generation in this country.

00:48:16.000 That is a record that I'm proud to run on, and we're going to get back to that common-sense wisdom so that you can afford to live the American dream again.

00:48:24.000 I know a lot of you are struggling.

00:48:26.000 I know a lot of you are worried about paying the bills.

00:48:28.000 It's going to stop when Donald Trump brings back common sense to this country.

00:48:32.000 Governor, do you want to respond to that?

00:48:34.000 What has Kamala Harris done for the middle class? 1.00

00:48:36.000 Yeah, well, Kamala Harris' day one was Donald Trump's failure on COVID that led to the collapse of our economy. 0.90

00:48:41.000 We were already before COVID in a manufacturing recession, but 10 million people out of work, largest percentage since the Great Depression.

00:48:47.000 Nine million jobs closed on that.

00:48:49.000 That was day one.

00:48:50.000 Whether it was the Infrastructure Act or other things, we moved.

00:48:53.000 Now, you made a question about experts, said this.

00:48:55.000 I've made a note of this.

00:48:57.000 Economists Science can't be trusted.

00:49:01.000 National security folks can't be trusted.

00:49:04.000 Look, if you're going to be president, you don't have all the answers.

00:49:07.000 Donald Trump believes he does.

00:49:09.000 My pro tip of the day is this.

00:49:10.000 If you need heart surgery, listen to the people at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, not Donald Trump.

00:49:16.000 And the same thing goes with this.

00:49:17.000 And I ask you out there, teachers, nurses, truck drivers, whatever, how is it fair that you're paying your taxes every year And Donald Trump hasn't paid any federal tax in the last 15 years, in the last year as president.

00:49:29.000 That's what's wrong with the system.

00:49:31.000 There's a way around it, and he's bragged about that.

00:49:34.000 We're just asking for fairness in it, and that's all you want.

00:49:38.000 You have a minute.

00:49:39.000 Governor, you say trust the experts.

00:49:41.000 But those same experts for 40 years said that if we shipped our manufacturing base off to China, we'd get cheaper goods.

00:49:47.000 They lied about that.

00:49:48.000 They said if we shipped our industrial base off to other countries, to Mexico and elsewhere, it would make the middle class stronger. 0.78

00:49:54.000 They were wrong about that.

00:49:56.000 They were wrong about the idea that if we made America less self-reliant, less We're not doing it anymore.

00:50:15.000 We're bringing American manufacturing back.

00:50:17.000 We're unleashing American energy.

00:50:19.000 We're going to make more of our own stuff.

00:50:20.000 And this isn't just an economic issue.

00:50:22.000 And I've got three beautiful little kids at home, seven, four, and two.

00:50:25.000 And I love them very much, and I hope they're in bed right now.

00:50:28.000 So many of the drugs, the pharmaceuticals that we put in the bodies of our children are manufactured by nations that hate us. 0.99

00:50:34.000 This has to stop.

00:50:36.000 And we're not going to stop it by listening to experts.

00:50:39.000 We're going to stop it by listening to common sense wisdom, which is what Donald Trump governed on.

00:50:43.000 Senator, you're talking about Governor Walz.

00:50:44.000 Can you address that?

00:50:45.000 I mean, voters say they trust Donald Trump on the economy more.

00:50:48.000 If you're listening tonight and you want billionaires to get tax cuts, you heard what the numbers were.

00:50:48.000 Why?

00:50:54.000 Look, I'm a union guy on this.

00:50:57.000 I'm not a guy who wanted to ship things overseas, but I understand that, look, we produce soybeans and corn.

00:51:02.000 We need to have fair trading partners.

00:51:04.000 That's something that we believe in.

00:51:06.000 I think the thing that most concerns me on this is Donald Trump was the guy who created the largest trade deficit in American history with China.

00:51:15.000 So the rhetoric is good.

00:51:16.000 Much of what the senator said right there, I'm in agreement with him on this.

00:51:20.000 I watched it happen, too.

00:51:21.000 I watched it to my communities.

00:51:22.000 And we talked about that.

00:51:23.000 But we had people undercutting the right to collectively bargain.

00:51:28.000 We had right to work states made it more difficult.

00:51:30.000 We had companies that were willing to ship it over.

00:51:32.000 And we saw people profit.

00:51:33.000 Folks that— Folks that are venture capital in some cases, putting money into companies that were overseas.

00:51:39.000 We're in agreement that we bring those home.

00:51:41.000 The issue is Donald Trump is talking about it.

00:51:44.000 Kamala Harris has a record, 250,000 more manufacturing jobs just out of the IRA. May I respond to that?

00:51:50.000 Yes.

00:51:51.000 So, appreciate that.

00:51:52.000 So, if you notice, what Governor Walz just did is he said, first of all, Donald Trump has to listen to the experts.

00:51:57.000 And then when he acknowledged that the experts screwed up, he said, well, Donald Trump didn't do nearly as good of a job as the statistics show that he did.

00:52:03.000 No, that's a gross generalization.

00:52:04.000 So, what Tim Walz is doing—and I—honestly, Tim, I think you've got a tough job here.

00:52:09.000 Because you've got to play whack-a-mole.

00:52:10.000 You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver rising take-home pay, which of course he did.

00:52:15.000 You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver lower inflation, which of course he did.

00:52:19.000 And then you've simultaneously got to defend Kamala Harris's atrocious economic record, which has made gas, groceries and housing unaffordable for American citizens. 0.99

00:52:28.000 I was raised by a woman who would sometimes go into medical debt I hope we have a conversation on health care then.

00:52:51.000 Senator, Governor.

00:52:52.000 Thank you.

00:52:52.000 Please.

00:52:53.000 Margaret?

00:52:54.000 We have a lot to get to ahead, gentlemen, on many topics, but right now I want to talk about personal qualifications.

00:53:01.000 The vice president is often the last voice the president hears before making consequential decisions.

00:53:09.000 We want to ask you about your leadership qualities.

00:53:12.000 Governor Walz, You said you were in Hong Kong during the deadly Tiananmen Square protests in the spring of 1989.

00:53:20.000 But Minnesota Public Radio and other media outlets are reporting that you actually didn't travel to Asia until August of that year.

00:53:28.000 Can you explain that discrepancy?

00:53:31.000 Yeah, well, and to the folks out there who didn't get at the top of this, look, I grew up in small, rural Nebraska, a town of 400, a town that you rode your bike with your buddies until the streetlights come on, and I'm proud of that service.

00:53:43.000 I joined the National Guard at 17, worked on family farms, and then I... Use the GI Bill to become a teacher, passionate about it, a young teacher.

00:53:52.000 My first year out, I got the opportunity in the summer of 89 to travel to China.

00:53:56.000 35 years ago, be able to do that.

00:53:58.000 I came back home and then started a program to take young people there.

00:54:03.000 We would take basketball teams, we would take baseball teams, we would take dancers, and we would go back and forth to China.

00:54:09.000 The issue for that was to try and learn.

00:54:12.000 Now look, my community knows who I am.

00:54:14.000 They saw where I was at.

00:54:16.000 Look, I will be the first to tell you, I have poured my heart into my community.

00:54:20.000 I've tried to do the best I can, but I've not been perfect.

00:54:23.000 And I'm a knucklehead at times, but it's always been about that.

00:54:26.000 Those same people elected me to Congress for 12 years.

00:54:30.000 And in Congress, I was one of the most bipartisan people, working on things like farm bills that we got done, working on veterans benefits.

00:54:37.000 And then the people of Minnesota We're able to elect me to governor twice.

00:54:42.000 So look, my commitment has been from the beginning to make sure that I'm there for the people, to make sure that I get this right.

00:54:48.000 I will say more than anything, many times I will talk a lot.

00:54:53.000 I will get caught up in the rhetoric.

00:54:55.000 But being there, the impact it made, the difference it made in my life, I learned a lot about China.

00:55:00.000 I hear the critiques of this.

00:55:01.000 I would make the case that Donald Trump should have come on one of those trips with us.

00:55:05.000 I guarantee you he wouldn't be praising Xi Jinping about COVID, and I guarantee you he wouldn't start a trade war that he ends up losing.

00:55:14.000 So this is about trying to understand the world.

00:55:16.000 It's about trying to do the best you can for your community.

00:55:19.000 And then it's putting yourself out there and letting your folks understand what it is.

00:55:23.000 My commitment, whether it be through teaching, which I was good at, or whether it was being a good soldier or was being a good member of Congress, those are the things that I think are the values that people care about.

00:55:33.000 Governor, just to follow up on that, the question was, can you explain the discrepancy?

00:55:39.000 All I said on this was, is I got there that summer and misspoke on this.

00:55:43.000 So I will just, that's what I've said.

00:55:47.000 So I was in Hong Kong and China during the democracy protests went in.

00:55:53.000 And from that, I learned a lot of what needed to be in governance.

00:55:58.000 I give them credit for asking a question again.

00:56:00.000 Senator Vance, in 2016, you called your running mate Donald Trump unfit for the nation's highest office, and you said he could be America's Hitler.

00:56:10.000 I know you've been asked many times, and you've said you regret those comments.

00:56:15.000 And explained you then voted for Donald Trump in 2020.

00:56:18.000 But the Washington Post reported new messages last week in which you also disparaged Trump's economic record while he was president, writing to someone in 2020, quote, Trump thoroughly failed to deliver his economic populism.

00:56:32.000 You're now his running mate, and you've shifted many of your policy stances to align with his.

00:56:38.000 If you become vice president, why should Americans trust that you will give Donald Trump the advice he needs to hear and not just the advice he wants to hear?

00:56:49.000 You have two minutes.

00:56:50.000 Well, first of all, because I've always been open.

00:56:52.000 And sometimes, of course, I've disagreed with the president, but I've also been extremely open about the fact that I was wrong about Donald Trump.

00:56:58.000 I was wrong, first of all, because I believed some of the media stories that turned out to be dishonest fabrications of his record.

00:57:04.000 But most importantly, Donald Trump delivered for the American people.

00:57:08.000 Rising wages, rising take-home pay, an economy that worked for normal Americans, a secure southern border, a lot of things, frankly, that I didn't think he'd be able to deliver on.

00:57:17.000 And yeah, when you screw up, when you misspeak, when you get something wrong and you change your mind, you ought to be honest with the American people about it.

00:57:24.000 It's one of the reasons, Margaret, why I've done so many interviews is because I think it's important to actually explain to the American people where I come down on the issues and what changed.

00:57:34.000 I've been extremely consistent that I think there were a lot of things that we could have done better in the Trump administration the first round if Congress was doing its job.

00:57:43.000 I strongly believe, and I've been a United States senator, that Congress is not just a high-class debating society.

00:57:48.000 It's not just a forum for senators and congressmen to whine about problems.

00:57:52.000 It's a forum to govern.

00:57:53.000 So there were a lot of things on the border, on tariffs, for example.

00:57:57.000 Where I think that we could have done so much more if the Republican Congress and the Democrats in Congress had been a little bit better about how they governed the country.

00:58:05.000 They were so obsessed with impeaching Donald Trump, they couldn't actually govern.

00:58:09.000 And I want to talk about this tariff issue in particular, Margaret, because Tim just accused this of being a national sales tax.

00:58:16.000 Look, the one thing—and you're probably surprised to hear me praising Joe Biden—but the one thing that Joe Biden did is he continued some of the Trump tariffs that protected American manufacturing jobs.

00:58:28.000 And it's the one issue, the most pro-worker part of the Biden administration, it's the one issue where Kamala Harris has run away from Joe Biden's record.

00:58:36.000 Think about this.

00:58:37.000 If you're trying to employ slave laborers in China at $3 a day, you're going to do that and undercut the wages of American workers unless our country stands up for itself and says, you're not accessing our markets unless you're paying middle-class Americans a fair wage.

00:58:53.000 Senator, your time is up.

00:58:55.000 Nora?

00:58:56.000 Now to the issue of reproductive rights.

00:58:56.000 Thank you.

00:58:59.000 Governor, after Roe vs.

00:59:01.000 Wade was overturned, you signed a bill into law that made Minnesota one of the least restrictive states in the nation when it comes to abortion.

00:59:09.000 J.D., get it out of the park here.

00:59:10.000 Former President Trump said in the last debate that you believe abortion, quote, in the ninth month is absolutely fine.

00:59:18.000 Yes or no?

00:59:19.000 Is that what you support?

00:59:20.000 I'll give you two minutes.

00:59:21.000 That's not what the bill says, but look, this issue is what's on everyone's mind.

00:59:27.000 Donald Trump put this all into motion.

00:59:29.000 He brags about how great it was that he put the judges in and overturned Roe vs.

00:59:34.000 Wade.

00:59:35.000 52 years of personal autonomy.

00:59:37.000 And then he tells us, oh, we send it to the states.

00:59:39.000 It's a beautiful thing.

00:59:41.000 Amanda Zaworski would disagree with you on It's a Beautiful Thing.

00:59:45.000 A young bride in Texas waiting for their child at 18 weeks. 0.74

00:59:49.000 She has a complication, a tear in the membrane.

00:59:51.000 She needs to go in.

00:59:53.000 The medical care at that point needs to be decided by the doctor.

00:59:56.000 And that would have been an abortion. 1.00

00:59:58.000 But in Texas, that would have put them in legal jeopardy.

01:00:01.000 She went home, got sepsis, nearly dies, and now she may have difficulty having children.

01:00:06.000 Or in Kentucky. 0.83

01:00:08.000 Hadley Duvall, a 12-year-old child raped and impregnated by her stepfather.

01:00:14.000 Those are horrific.

01:00:15.000 Now, when God asked about that, Senator Vance said, two wrongs don't make a right.

01:00:19.000 There is no right in this.

01:00:21.000 So in Minnesota, what we did was restore Roe v.

01:00:26.000 We made sure that we put...

01:00:26.000 Wade.

01:00:28.000 Women in charge of their health care. 1.00

01:00:30.000 But look, if you don't know Amanda or Hadley, you soon will.

01:00:36.000 Their Project 2025 is going to have a registry of pregnancies.

01:00:40.000 It's going to make it more difficult, if not impossible, to get contraception and limit access, if not eliminate access to infertility treatments.

01:00:49.000 For so many of us who are listening, me included, Infertility treatments are why I have a child.

01:00:54.000 That's nobody else's business, but those things are being proposed.

01:00:58.000 And the catch-all on this is, is, well, the states will decide what's right for Texas might not be right for Washington.

01:01:05.000 That's not how this works.

01:01:07.000 This is basic human right.

01:01:11.000 Maternal mortality skyrocket in Texas, outpacing many other countries in the world.

01:01:16.000 This is about health care.

01:01:18.000 In Minnesota, we are ranked first in health care for a reason.

01:01:21.000 We trust women. 0.79

01:01:22.000 We trust doctors.

01:01:23.000 Senator, do you want to respond to the governor's claim?

01:01:25.000 Will you create a federal pregnancy monitoring agency?

01:01:29.000 No, Nora, certainly we won't.

01:01:30.000 And I want to talk about this issue because I know a lot of Americans care about it, and I know a lot of Americans don't agree with everything that I've ever said on this topic.

01:01:38.000 And, you know, I grew up in a working-class family in a neighborhood where I knew a lot of young women who had unplanned pregnancies and decided to terminate those pregnancies because they feel like they didn't have any other options.

01:01:49.000 And, you know, one of them is actually very dear to me.

01:01:52.000 And I know she's watching tonight, and I love you.

01:01:55.000 And she told me something a couple years ago that she felt like if she hadn't had that abortion, that it would have destroyed her life because she was in an abusive relationship.

01:02:04.000 And I think that what I take from that, as a Republican who proudly wants to protect Innocent life in this country who proudly wants to protect the vulnerable is that my party, we've got to do so much better of a job at earning the American people's trust back on this issue where they frankly just don't trust us.

01:02:22.000 And I think that's one of the things that Donald Trump and I are endeavoring to do.

01:02:25.000 I want us as a Republican Party to be pro-family in the fullest sense of the word.

01:02:31.000 I want us to support fertility treatments.

01:02:33.000 I want us to make it easier for moms to afford to have babies. 1.00

01:02:36.000 I want it to make it easier for young families to afford a home so they can afford a place to raise that family.

01:02:41.000 And I think there's so much that we can do on the public policy front just to give women more options.

01:02:48.000 Now, of course, Donald Trump has been very clear that, on the abortion policy specifically, that we have a big country, and it's diverse.

01:02:56.000 And California has a different viewpoint on this than Georgia.

01:02:59.000 Georgia has a different viewpoint from Arizona.

01:03:01.000 And the proper way to handle this, as messy as democracy sometimes is, is to let voters make these decisions, let the individual states make their abortion policy.

01:03:12.000 And I think that's what makes the most sense And a very big, a very diverse, and let's be honest, sometimes a very, very messy and divided country.

01:03:20.000 Governor, would you like to respond and also answer the question about restrictions?

01:03:24.000 Yeah, well, the question got asked when Donald Trump made the accusation that wasn't true about Minnesota.

01:03:29.000 Well, let me tell you about this idea that there's diverse states.

01:03:33.000 There's a young woman named Amber Thurman.

01:03:35.000 She happened to be in Georgia, a restrictive state.

01:03:38.000 Because of that, she had to travel a long distance to North Carolina to try and get her care. 0.76

01:03:45.000 Amber Thurman died in that journey back and forth.

01:03:50.000 The fact of the matter is, how can we as a nation say that your life and your rights, as basic as the right to control your own body, is determined on geography?

01:04:02.000 There's a very real chance, had Amber Thurman lived in Minnesota, she would be alive today.

01:04:08.000 That's why the restoration of Roe vs. 0.97

01:04:10.000 When you listen to Vice President Harris talk about this subject and you hear me talk about it, you hear us talking exactly the same.

01:04:10.000 Wade.

01:04:16.000 Donald Trump is trying to figure out how to get the political right of this.

01:04:20.000 I agree with a lot of what Senator Vance said about what's happening.

01:04:23.000 His running mate, though, does not.

01:04:25.000 And that's the problem.

01:04:26.000 Governor, your time is up.

01:04:27.000 Senator, let me ask you about that.

01:04:28.000 He mentioned, I think, referring to a national ban.

01:04:31.000 In the past, you have supported a federal ban on abortion after 15 weeks.

01:04:37.000 In fact, you said if someone can't support legislation like that, quote, you are making the United States the most barbaric pro-abortion regime anywhere in the entire world.

01:04:47.000 My question is, why have you changed your position?

01:04:50.000 Well, Nora, first of all, I never supported a national ban.

01:04:53.000 I did, when I was running for Senate in 2022, talk about setting some minimum national standard.

01:04:58.000 For example, we have a partial birth abortion ban in place in this country at the federal level.

01:05:03.000 I don't think anybody's trying to get rid of that, or at least I hope not, though I know that Democrats have taken a very radical pro-abortion stance.

01:05:09.000 But, Nora, you know, one of the things that changed is, in the state of Ohio, we had a referendum.

01:05:14.000 In 2023, and the people of Ohio voted overwhelmingly, by the way, against my position.

01:05:20.000 And I think that what I learned from that, Nora, is that we've got to do a better job at winning back people's trust.

01:05:26.000 So many young women would love to have families. 0.99

01:05:28.000 So many young women also see an unplanned pregnancy as something that's going to destroy their livelihood, destroy their education, destroy their relationships. 0.81

01:05:36.000 And we have got to earn people's trust back.

01:05:38.000 And that's why Donald Trump and I are committed to pursuing pro-family policies, making child care more accessible, making fertility treatments more accessible, because we've got to do a better job at that, and that's what real leadership is.

01:05:51.000 Governor, your response?

01:05:52.000 I'm going to respond on the pro-abortion piece of that.

01:05:55.000 No, we're not.

01:05:56.000 We're pro-women.

01:05:57.000 We're pro-freedom to make your own choice.

01:05:59.000 We know what the implications are to not be that.

01:06:03.000 Women having miscarriages, women not getting the care, physicians feeling like they may be prosecuted for providing that care.

01:06:11.000 And as far as making sure that we're educating our children and giving them options, Minnesota's estate is one of the lowest teen pregnancy rates. 0.93

01:06:18.000 We understand that, too.

01:06:19.000 We know that the options need to be available, and we make that true.

01:06:23.000 We also make it we're a top three state for the best place to raise children.

01:06:27.000 But these two things to try and say that we're pro-children, but we don't like this, or you guys are pro-abortion, that's not the case at all.

01:06:35.000 We are pro-freedoms for women to make their choices. 0.98

01:06:38.000 And we're going, and Kamala Harris is making the case, to make options for children more affordable, a $6,000 child tax credit.

01:06:45.000 But we're not going to base that on the backs of making someone like Amber Thurman drive 600 miles to try and get health care. 0.99

01:06:52.000 Senator?

01:06:52.000 I may respond to that.

01:06:53.000 First of all, Governor, I agree with you.

01:06:55.000 Amber Thurman should still be alive, and there are a lot of people who should still be alive, and I certainly wish that she was.

01:06:59.000 And maybe you're free to disagree with me on this and explain this to me, but as I read the Minnesota law that you signed into law, the statute that you signed into law, it says that a doctor who presides over an abortion where the baby survives, the doctor is under no obligation to provide life-saving care to a baby who survives a botched late-term abortion.

01:07:21.000 That is, I think, whether you're pro-choice or pro-abortion, that is fundamentally barbaric.

01:07:26.000 And that's why I use that word, Nora, is because some of what we've seen...

01:07:30.000 Do you want to force Catholic hospitals to perform abortions against their will?

01:07:34.000 Because Kamala Harris is supported suing Catholic nuns to violate their freedom of conscience.

01:07:39.000 We can be a big and diverse country where we respect people's freedom of conscience and make the country more pro-baby and pro-family.

01:07:45.000 But please...

01:07:46.000 Yes, Governor, please respond.

01:07:48.000 Look, this is one where there's always something there.

01:07:50.000 This is a very simple proposition.

01:07:52.000 These are women's decisions to make about their health care decisions and the physicians who know best when they need to do this. 0.99

01:07:58.000 Trying to distort the way a law is written to try and make a point, that's not it at all.

01:08:03.000 What was I wrong about, Governor?

01:08:04.000 Please tell me, what was I wrong about?

01:08:05.000 That is not the way the law is written.

01:08:07.000 I've given this advice on a lot of things that getting involved, that's been misread and it was fact checked at the last debate.

01:08:14.000 But the point on this is there's a continuation of these guys to try and tell women or to get involved.

01:08:19.000 I use this line on this, just mind your own business on this.

01:08:23.000 Things worked best when Roe vs. 0.95

01:08:25.000 Wade was in place.

01:08:25.000 When we do a restoration of Roe, that works best.

01:08:28.000 That doesn't preclude us.

01:08:30.000 From increasing funding for children, it doesn't increase us from making sure that once that child's born, like in Minnesota, they get meals.

01:08:38.000 They get early childhood education.

01:08:40.000 They get health care.

01:08:42.000 So the hiding behind we're going to do all these other things, when you're not proposing them in your budget, Kamala Harris is proposing them.

01:08:48.000 She's proposing all those things to make life easier for families.

01:08:51.000 I asked a specific question, Governor.

01:08:53.000 You gave me a slogan as a response.

01:08:55.000 It's not the case.

01:08:55.000 It's not true.

01:08:56.000 That's not what the law says.

01:08:57.000 So they fact-checked it with President Trump.

01:09:00.000 Tell us the law.

01:09:01.000 Gentlemen, there's a lot to discuss.

01:09:02.000 We have to move on.

01:09:03.000 I got him on the ropes there, man.

01:09:05.000 CBS News vice presidential debate in just a moment.

01:09:08.000 All right.

01:09:09.000 Guys, a lot there.

01:09:10.000 Holy!

01:09:12.000 So, what can we take away from this?

01:09:15.000 Number one, this is a way more higher IQ debate.

01:09:20.000 I will say that.

01:09:21.000 Obviously, both vice presidents...

01:09:24.000 Are better spoken than their presidential counterparts.

01:09:26.000 Let's just keep it a thousand here, right?

01:09:28.000 That's number one, right?

01:09:29.000 Number one, both of them are better spoken, both of them are better able to articulate their points than the president they're running alongside, right?

01:09:39.000 That's just pretty obvious. 0.97

01:09:41.000 Even Tim Walts, who I honestly thought was probably going to be a moron, he actually is able to articulate his points significantly better than Kamala Harris. 0.97

01:09:50.000 Not saying that that's much, but significantly better. 0.94

01:09:53.000 So, when it comes to the foreign policy, that was the first thing that they talked about with Iran.

01:09:58.000 That was really a question more of who's going to support them boys more.

01:10:03.000 Like, it is what it is.

01:10:05.000 Typical, we're gonna give Israel what they need to defend themselves, and, you know, etc., etc. 0.87

01:10:12.000 That's almost like a no-brainer.

01:10:14.000 It is what it is. 0.95

01:10:15.000 They're going to both support Israel no matter what because we know the lobby groups have a fucking stranglehold in our politics, right? 0.97

01:10:23.000 We know that. 0.96

01:10:24.000 Talked about this ad nauseum.

01:10:26.000 Next, they talked about...

01:10:30.000 They talked about the economy.

01:10:32.000 They also talked about immigration.

01:10:34.000 Let's go on immigration. 0.98

01:10:36.000 With immigration, and I've seen this talking point quite a bit from the Democrats, they've said this a million times, that they had this immigration bill in place and that Trump apparently, you know, voted against it.

01:10:48.000 He wanted it as a campaign thing or whatever it may be.

01:10:51.000 Look, the fact of the matter is this.

01:10:54.000 Kamala is in now.

01:10:56.000 She's in office now.

01:10:58.000 She's the border czar now.

01:11:00.000 Okay?

01:11:01.000 I did an interview with a Border Patrol agent, which I want you guys to go check out, actually.

01:11:06.000 It is up literally on Rumble and on YouTube.

01:11:11.000 Let me pull it up for you on Ninjas real quick.

01:11:15.000 With Zachary, right?

01:11:19.000 Give me one second.

01:11:21.000 Border Patrol agent.

01:11:25.000 And he actually is still on the line, guys.

01:11:27.000 I think I'm the only person to interview an actual Border Patrol agent.

01:11:32.000 Here it is.

01:11:33.000 Here's the full interview.

01:11:34.000 Okay, I could drop the link in here for you guys.

01:11:36.000 But the point is, U.S. Border Patrol agent exposed the border crisis.

01:11:40.000 Bro, he literally goes into detail about what's really going on in the border.

01:11:44.000 We went into how a lot of these aliens are getting something called a notice to appear.

01:11:48.000 Which basically is, or an NTA ROR, which is basically them being allowed to go into the country and wait for an immigration hearing, which a lot of the times can take years to do.

01:11:59.000 I'll drop the link in the chat for you guys right now, by the way.

01:12:02.000 I'll drop it in all the chats.

01:12:03.000 Save it for viewing later.

01:12:06.000 Okay, I'm literally dropping it into all the different platforms, dropping it everywhere as we speak.

01:12:15.000 By the way, guys, you can see, we're everywhere right now. 0.98

01:12:18.000 Like, fucking bonus through gray sweatpants. 0.99

01:12:21.000 We're poking out. 0.99

01:12:21.000 We're on both YouTube channels. 0.99

01:12:23.000 We're on X. We're on Twitch.

01:12:27.000 We're cooking right now.

01:12:28.000 By the way, are we on the front page of Twitch?

01:12:30.000 Anyway, someone in the chat let me know.

01:12:32.000 But going back to what I was saying, right?

01:12:35.000 And they're literally allowing...

01:12:39.000 They're literally allowing... 0.99

01:12:42.000 Illegal aliens to come in, which to give you guys some perspective, when I was a federal agent myself, right, when I was on a job, it was an act of Congress to get a fucking NTA for an alien.

01:12:52.000 Even if I had a guy, let's say Border Patrol catches an illegal alien, right, or a group of them, and one of them wants to become an informant, like I talked to them during my criminal case and I found out that one of them has great information, I want to make them an informant, I would ask Border Patrol, hey guys, can you process them with an NTA ROR for me and turn them over to me and I'm going to make them a source.

01:13:11.000 And they would literally look me in the eyes and be like, no, we're not doing that.

01:13:15.000 What you can do is, we'll sign custody of the body over to you, and you can go do it yourself, but we're not taking liability.

01:13:22.000 Fair enough.

01:13:23.000 He goes out and kills somebody, they're on the NTA, they don't want to be involved.

01:13:26.000 But now, Border Patrol is giving out NTAs like candy, thanks to the Harris administration. 0.99

01:13:33.000 So, on immigration, they're fucking up. 1.00

01:13:36.000 They can say whatever they want to say about this fucking bill, but they're fucking up. 1.00

01:13:39.000 Let's get back to the debate. 1.00

01:13:40.000 The leading cause of death for children and teens in America is by firearms.

01:13:46.000 Senator Vance, you oppose most gun legislation that Democrats claim will curb gun violence.

01:13:52.000 You oppose red flag gun laws and legislation to ban certain semi-automatic rifles, including AR-15s.

01:13:59.000 So let me ask you, earlier this year, for the first time, the parents of a school shooter were convicted of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to 10 years in prison.

01:14:10.000 Do you think holding parents responsible could curb mass shootings?

01:14:15.000 I'll give you two minutes.

01:14:16.000 Yeah, well, Nora, on that particular case, I don't know the full details, but I certainly trust local law enforcement and local authorities to make those decisions.

01:14:22.000 I think in some cases, the answer is going to be yes, and in some cases, the answer is going to be no.

01:14:26.000 And the details really matter here, of course.

01:14:28.000 For example, if a kid steals a gun, that's going to be different than if a parent hands over a gun, knowing that their kid is potentially dangerous.

01:14:34.000 Look, I want to just sort of speak as a father of three beautiful little kids, and our oldest is now in second grade.

01:14:42.000 And like a lot of parents, we send our kids to school with such hope and such joy and such pride at their little faces on the first day of school.

01:14:49.000 And we know, unfortunately, that a lot of kids are going to experience this terrible epidemic of gun violence.

01:14:54.000 And of course, our hearts go out to the families that are affected by this terrible stuff.

01:14:57.000 And we do have to do better.

01:14:59.000 And I think that Governor Walz and I actually probably agree that we need to do better on this.

01:15:03.000 The question is just how do we actually do it?

01:15:06.000 Now, here's something that really bothers me and worries me about this epidemic of violence.

01:15:11.000 The gross majority, close to 90 percent in some of the statistics I've seen, of the gun violence in this country is committed with illegally obtained firearms.

01:15:19.000 And while we're on that topic, we know that, thanks to Kamala Harris's open border, we've seen a massive influx in the number of illegal guns run by the Mexican drug cartel.

01:15:29.000 So that number—the amount of illegal guns in our country is higher today than it was three and a half years ago.

01:15:35.000 But what do we do about the schools?

01:15:36.000 What do we do to protect our kids?

01:15:38.000 And I think the answer is, and I say this not loving the answer, because I don't want my kids to go to school in a school that feels unsafe or where there are visible signs of security.

01:15:48.000 But I unfortunately think that we have to increase security We have to make the doors lock better.

01:15:54.000 We have to make the doors stronger.

01:15:56.000 We've got to make the windows stronger.

01:15:58.000 And of course, we've got to increase school resource officers because the idea that we can magically wave a wand and take guns out of the hands of bad guys, it just doesn't fit with recent experience.

01:16:08.000 So we've got to make our schools safer.

01:16:10.000 And I think we've got to have some common sense, bipartisan solutions for how to do that.

01:16:14.000 Governor, you have two minutes.

01:16:15.000 Well, I think all the parents watching tonight, this is your biggest nightmare.

01:16:19.000 Look, I got a 17-year-old, and he witnessed a shooting at a community center playing volleyball.

01:16:25.000 Those things don't leave you.

01:16:27.000 As a member of Congress, I sat in my office, surrounded by dozens of the Sandy Hook parents, and they were looking at my 7-year-old picture on the wall.

01:16:36.000 Their 7-year-old were dead.

01:16:37.000 And they were asking us to do something.

01:16:39.000 And look, I'm a hunter.

01:16:41.000 I own firearms.

01:16:42.000 arms, the vice president is.

01:16:44.000 We understand that the Second Amendment is there, but our first responsibility is to our kids to figure this out.

01:16:49.000 In Minnesota, we have enacted enhanced red flag laws, enhanced background checks, and we can start to get data.

01:16:57.000 But here's the problem.

01:16:59.000 If we really want to solve this, we've got folks that won't allow research to be even done on gun violence.

01:17:05.000 And this idea that we should just live with it, and here's what I do think, that this is a good start to the conversation.

01:17:12.000 I 100% believe that Senator Vance It's abhorrent and it breaks your heart.

01:17:18.000 I agree with that.

01:17:20.000 But that's not far enough when we know there are things that work.

01:17:23.000 I've spent time in Finland and seen some Finnish schools.

01:17:27.000 They don't have this happen, even though they have a high gun ownership rate in the country.

01:17:32.000 There are reasonable things that we can do to make a difference.

01:17:36.000 It's not infringing on your Second Amendment.

01:17:39.000 And the idea to have some of these weapons out there, it just doesn't make any sense.

01:17:44.000 Kamala Harris, as an attorney general, worked on this issue. 0.96

01:17:47.000 She knows that it's there.

01:17:49.000 No one's trying to scaremonger and say, we're taking your guns, but I ask all of you out there.

01:17:54.000 Do you want your schools hardened to look like a fort?

01:17:57.000 Is that what we have to go?

01:17:59.000 When we know there's countries around the world that their children aren't practicing these types of drills.

01:18:05.000 They're being kids.

01:18:06.000 We owe it to them to get a fix.

01:18:08.000 These are things that shouldn't be that difficult.

01:18:10.000 You can still keep your firearms and we can make a difference.

01:18:14.000 If you're listening tonight, this breaks your heart.

01:18:14.000 We have to.

01:18:17.000 Senator?

01:18:18.000 Tim, first of all, I didn't know that your 17-year-old witness was shooting.

01:18:21.000 I'm sorry about that.

01:18:22.000 I appreciate you saying so.

01:18:23.000 Christ, have mercy.

01:18:24.000 It is awful.

01:18:26.000 And I appreciate what Tim said, actually, about Finland, because I do think it illustrates some of the, frankly, weird differences between our own country's gun violence problem and Finland.

01:18:37.000 We have way higher rates of mental health abuse—or mental health substance abuse.

01:18:43.000 We have way higher rates of depression, way higher rates of anxiety.

01:18:47.000 We unfortunately have a mental health crisis in this country that I really do think that we need to get to the root causes of, because I don't think it's the whole reason why we have such a bad gun violence problem, but I do think it's a big piece of it.

01:18:58.000 Another driver of the gun violence epidemic, especially that affecting our kids, it doesn't earn as many headlines, but is the terrible gun violence problem in a lot of our big cities.

01:19:08.000 And this is why we have to empower law enforcement to arrest the bad guys, put them away, and take gun offenders off the streets.

01:19:15.000 I think there's a whole host of things that we can do here, but I do think at our schools we've got to talk about more security.

01:19:21.000 Senator, thank you.

01:19:22.000 Governor, you previously opposed an assault weapons ban, but only later in your political career did you change your position.

01:19:28.000 Why?

01:19:28.000 Yeah, I sat in that office with those Sandy Hook parents.

01:19:30.000 I've become friends with school shooters.

01:19:32.000 I've seen it.

01:19:33.000 Look, the NRA, I was an NRA guy for a long time.

01:19:35.000 They used to teach gun safety.

01:19:37.000 I'm of an age where my shotgun was in my car so I could pheasant hunt after football practice.

01:19:41.000 That's not where we live today.

01:19:44.000 Several things I want to mention on this is, talking about cities and where it's at, the number one...

01:19:50.000 Where the most firearm deaths happen in Minnesota are rural suicides.

01:19:55.000 And we have an epidemic of children getting guns and shooting themselves.

01:19:59.000 And so we have and we should look at all of the issues.

01:20:04.000 Making sure folks have health care and all that, but I want to be very careful.

01:20:07.000 This idea of stigmatizing mental health, just because you have a mental health issue doesn't mean you're violent.

01:20:12.000 And I think what we end up doing is we start looking for a scapegoat.

01:20:16.000 Sometimes it just is the guns.

01:20:18.000 It's just the guns.

01:20:19.000 And there are things that you can do about it.

01:20:21.000 But I do think that this is one, and I think this is a healthy conversation.

01:20:25.000 I think there's a capacity to find solutions on this that work.

01:20:29.000 Protect Second Amendment, protect our children. 0.99

01:20:31.000 That's our priority.

01:20:32.000 Gentlemen, thank you.

01:20:32.000 Margaret?

01:20:33.000 Thank you, Nora.

01:20:34.000 Let's turn now to the top contributor to inflation, the high cost of housing and rent.

01:20:40.000 Here we go.

01:20:41.000 There's a shortage of more than 4 million homes in the United States, and that contributes to the high housing prices.

01:20:48.000 Governor Walz, the Harris campaign promises a $25,000 down payment assistance for first-time homebuyers and a $10,000 tax credit.

01:20:58.000 They also promise to build 3 million new homes.

01:21:02.000 Where are you building these homes and won't handing out that kind of money just drive up prices higher?

01:21:08.000 No, it's not handing out.

01:21:10.000 First, let me say this.

01:21:11.000 This issue of housing, and I think those of you listening on this, the problem we've had is that we've got a lot of folks that see housing as another commodity.

01:21:19.000 It can be bought up.

01:21:20.000 It can be shifted.

01:21:21.000 It can be moved around.

01:21:23.000 Those are not folks living in those houses.

01:21:25.000 Those of you listening tonight, that house is a big deal.

01:21:27.000 I bought and owned one house in my life.

01:21:29.000 My mom still lives in the house where I was.

01:21:31.000 And when I think of a house, I'm thinking of Christmas services after midnight mass where you go with your family.

01:21:37.000 We need to make it more affordable.

01:21:39.000 And one of the things, as I said, this program that the Vice President is pushing forward and bringing a new way of approaching this is something we're doing in Minnesota from that lead.

01:21:49.000 We in the state invested in making sure our housing was the biggest investment that we'd ever made in housing.

01:21:54.000 It starts to make it easier.

01:21:56.000 We cut some of the red tape.

01:21:57.000 Local folks, look, we can't do it at the federal level, but local folks make it easier to build those homes. 0.81

01:22:02.000 And then that down payment assistance.

01:22:03.000 I can tell all of you out there, one of the Certainly for me, using the GI Bill was one thing, but a veteran's home loan?

01:22:11.000 The big thing about a veteran's home loan is you don't have to pay the down payment.

01:22:16.000 Those are things that make it there.

01:22:17.000 Now look, you're going to pay it back, and you're going to pay your mortgage.

01:22:20.000 Those are things that we know in the long run, the appreciated value, the generational wealth that's created from it.

01:22:25.000 And I will give Minneapolis an example.

01:22:28.000 Minneapolis is the one city where we've seen the lowest inflation rates.

01:22:31.000 We've seen a 12% increase in stock because we put some of these things in.

01:22:35.000 And we're implementing a state program to make sure we give some of that down payment assistance.

01:22:40.000 We get it back from people.

01:22:42.000 Because here's what we know.

01:22:43.000 People with stable housing end up with stable jobs.

01:22:46.000 People with stable housing have their kids able to be able to get to school.

01:22:50.000 All of those things in the long run end up saving our money.

01:22:53.000 And that's the thing that I think we should be able to find some common ground in.

01:22:57.000 But we can't blame Immigrants, for the only reason, that's not the case that's happening in many cities.

01:23:03.000 The fact of the matter is, is that we don't have enough naturally affording affordable housing, but we can make sure that the government's there to help kickstart it, create that base.

01:23:14.000 Governor, your time is up.

01:23:15.000 Senator Vance, as far as your campaign's position, the promise is to seize federal lands to build homes, remove regulation, provide tax breaks, and cut back on immigration, which you say pushes up prices.

01:23:30.000 Where are you going to build all the new homes you're promising and what part of any of this plan will provide immediate relief?

01:23:37.000 You have two minutes.

01:23:38.000 Well, first of all, Tim just said something that I agree with.

01:23:41.000 We don't want to blame immigrants for higher housing prices, but we do want to blame Kamala Harris for letting in millions of illegal aliens into this country, which does drive up costs, Tim. 0.99

01:23:52.000 25 million illegal aliens competing with Americans for scarce homes is one of the most significant drivers of home prices in the country. 0.87

01:24:00.000 It's why we have massive increases in home prices that have happened right alongside massive increases in illegal alien— We're good to go. 0.93

01:24:29.000 I invite her to use the office that the American people already gave her, not sit around and campaign and do nothing while Americans find the American dream of homeownership completely unaffordable. 1.00

01:24:41.000 Now, you asked, Margaret, what would immediately change the equation for American citizens if you lower energy prices?

01:24:48.000 As Donald Trump says, drill, baby, drill.

01:24:51.000 One of the biggest drivers of housing costs, aside from illegal immigration, is—think about it.

01:24:55.000 If a truck driver's paying 40 percent more for diesel, then the lumber he's delivering to the job site to build the house is also going to become a lot more expensive.

01:25:03.000 If we open up American energy, you will get immediate pricing relief for American citizens, not, by the way, just in housing, but in a whole host of other economic goods, too.

01:25:14.000 Senator Vance, you still have 23 seconds there.

01:25:17.000 Do you want to answer where?

01:25:20.000 Governor, we will get to you in a moment.

01:25:22.000 But Senator, where are you going to seize the federal lands?

01:25:25.000 Can you clarify?

01:25:26.000 Well, what Donald Trump has said is we have a lot of federal lands that aren't being used for anything.

01:25:29.000 They're not being used for a national park.

01:25:31.000 They're not being used.

01:25:32.000 And they could be places where we build a lot of housing.

01:25:35.000 And I do think that we should be opening up building in this country.

01:25:38.000 We have a lot of land that could be used.

01:25:41.000 We have a lot of Americans that need homes.

01:25:43.000 We should be kicking out illegal immigrants who are competing for those homes. 1.00

01:25:47.000 And we should be building more homes for the American citizens who deserve to be here.

01:25:51.000 Senator, your time is up.

01:25:52.000 Governor, I do want to let you respond to the allegation that the vice president is letting in migrants.

01:25:58.000 Well, of course, that's not true.

01:26:00.000 And again, you have the facts.

01:26:01.000 I guess we agreed not to fact check.

01:26:02.000 I'll check it.

01:26:03.000 Look, crossings are down compared to when Donald Trump left office.

01:26:07.000 Blaming and not trying to find the solution.

01:26:09.000 I was going to ask, though, on this question, are we going to drill and build houses in the same federal land?

01:26:14.000 And I think when people hear federal lands, these are really important pieces of land.

01:26:18.000 Now, Minnesota doesn't have a lot of federal lands.

01:26:19.000 I know in the western part of the countries we do.

01:26:22.000 There's not a lot of federal lands in and around Minneapolis, for example.

01:26:26.000 So the issue is I don't understand the federal lands issue unless we see this, and I worry about this as someone who cares deeply about our national parks and our federal lands.

01:26:34.000 Look, Minnesota, we protect these things.

01:26:36.000 We've got about 20% of the world's fresh water.

01:26:39.000 These lands protect.

01:26:40.000 They're there for a reason.

01:26:41.000 They belong to all of us.

01:26:42.000 But again, this is when you view housing and you view these things as commodities.

01:26:46.000 Like, there's a chance to make money here.

01:26:48.000 Let's take this federal land and let's sell it to people for that. 1.00

01:26:50.000 I think there's better ways to do this.

01:26:53.000 We've seen it in Minnesota.

01:26:54.000 We're able to refurbish some of these houses.

01:26:55.000 We're able to make some investments.

01:26:57.000 That gets people in.

01:26:58.000 And I'm still on the fact on this.

01:27:01.000 Economists.

01:27:02.000 Senator Vance, you said you don't like the economists.

01:27:04.000 Which economists are saying that it is immigrants that's adding to the cost?

01:27:07.000 Governor, your time is up, but Senator, on that point, I'd like for you to clarify.

01:27:13.000 There are many contributing factors to high housing costs.

01:27:17.000 What evidence do you have that migrants... 1.00

01:27:20.000 Are part of this problem?

01:27:22.000 Well, there's a Federal Reserve study that we're happy to share after the debate.

01:27:25.000 We'll put it up on social media, actually, that really drills down on the connection between increased levels of migration, especially illegal immigration and higher housing prices.

01:27:34.000 Now, of course, Margaret, that's not the entire driver of higher housing prices.

01:27:38.000 It's also the regulatory regime of Kamala Harris.

01:27:41.000 Look, we are a country of builders.

01:27:44.000 We're a country of doers.

01:27:45.000 We're a country of explorers.

01:27:46.000 But we increasingly have a federal administration that makes it harder to develop our resources, makes it harder to build things, and wants to throw people in jail for not doing everything exactly as Kamala Harris says they have to do.

01:28:01.000 And what that means is that you have a lot of people who would love to build homes who aren't able to build homes.

01:28:06.000 I actually agree with Tim Walz.

01:28:08.000 We should get out of this idea of housing as a commodity, but the thing that has most turned housing into a commodity is giving it away to millions upon millions of people who have no legal right to be here.

01:28:20.000 What are the federal regulations?

01:28:21.000 I deal with this as a governor.

01:28:23.000 You can very quickly reply.

01:28:25.000 I'm sorry.

01:28:26.000 I get this as a governor, and I don't necessarily disagree with that, that in some cases, many of those are local.

01:28:31.000 Many of them are state.

01:28:32.000 I don't know which ones are federal, but I think whenever we talk regulations, people think they can get rid of them.

01:28:38.000 I think you want to be able to get out of your house in a fire.

01:28:41.000 I think you want to make sure that it's fireproof and those types of things.

01:28:44.000 So which are the regulations?

01:28:45.000 Because the vice president's not responsible for those.

01:28:48.000 Congress writes those.

01:28:49.000 Governor, thank you.

01:28:50.000 Gentlemen, we have a lot to get through.

01:28:53.000 You're passionate about the housing crisis, I can tell.

01:28:56.000 Nora?

01:28:57.000 Thank you.

01:28:58.000 One of the top problems facing Americans is the high cost of health care.

01:29:02.000 Senator Vance, at the last presidential debate, former President Trump was asked about replacing the Affordable Care Act.

01:29:09.000 In response, he said, I have concepts of a plan.

01:29:13.000 Since then, Senator, you've talked about changing how chronically ill Americans get health insurance.

01:29:18.000 Can you explain how that would work?

01:29:21.000 And can you guarantee that Americans with pre-existing conditions won't pay more? 0.97

01:29:27.000 Trump fucked that one up.

01:29:29.000 We're going to cover Americans with pre-existing conditions. 0.87

01:29:31.000 In fact, a lot of my family members have gotten health care.

01:29:35.000 I believe, you know, members of my family actually got private health insurance, at least for the first time, switched off of Medicaid onto private insurance for the first time under Donald Trump's leadership.

01:29:44.000 And I think that, you know, a lot of people have criticized this concepts of a plan remark.

01:29:49.000 It gets very simple common sense.

01:29:50.000 I think, as Tim Walls knows, from 12 years in Congress, you're not going to propose a 900-page bill standing on a debate stage.

01:29:56.000 It would bore everybody to tears.

01:29:58.000 And it wouldn't actually mean anything, because part of this is the give-and-take of bipartisan negotiation.

01:30:03.000 Now, when Donald Trump was actually president—and again, he has a record to be proud of—prescription drugs fell in 2018 for the first time in a very long time.

01:30:12.000 Under Kamala Harris's leadership, prescription drugs are up about 7 percent.

01:30:16.000 Under Donald Trump's entire four years, they were up about 1.5 percent.

01:30:20.000 He introduced pricing transparency.

01:30:22.000 Think about health care.

01:30:23.000 You go into a hospital, you try to buy something, And nobody knows what it actually costs.

01:30:28.000 That price transparency will actually give American consumers a little bit more choice and will also drive down costs.

01:30:35.000 And we talked about the reinsurance regulations is what I was talking about.

01:30:39.000 Look, Donald Trump has said that if we allow states to experiment a little bit, On how to cover both the chronically ill, but the non-chronically ill, it's not just a plan.

01:30:49.000 He actually implemented some of these regulations when he was president of the United States.

01:30:54.000 And I think you can make a really good argument that it salvaged Obamacare, which was doing disastrously until Donald Trump came along.

01:31:01.000 I think this is an important point about President Trump.

01:31:03.000 Of course, you don't have to agree with everything that President Trump has ever said or ever done.

01:31:08.000 But when Obamacare was crushing under the weight of its own regulatory burden and health care costs, Donald Trump could have destroyed the program instead.

01:31:17.000 He worked in a bipartisan way to ensure that Americans had access to affordable care.

01:31:22.000 It's not perfect, of course, and there's so much more that we can do, but I think that Donald Trump has earned the right to put in place some better health care policies.

01:31:30.000 He's earned it because he did it successfully the first time.

01:31:34.000 All right, here's where being an old guy gives you some history. 0.72

01:31:37.000 I was there at the creation of the ACA. And the reason it was so important is I come from a major healthcare state, home of the Mayo Clinic, home to Medical Alley, 3M, Medtronic, all of those.

01:31:51.000 We understand healthcare.

01:31:53.000 It's why we're ranked first on affordability and accessibility and quality of healthcare.

01:31:57.000 And so what I know is, under Kamala Harris, More people are covered than they have before.

01:32:02.000 Those of you listening, this is critical to you.

01:32:05.000 Now, Donald Trump all of a sudden wants to go back and remember this.

01:32:09.000 He ran on the first thing he was going to do on day one was to repeal Obamacare.

01:32:15.000 On day one, he tried to sign an executive order to repeal the ACA. He signed on to a lawsuit to repeal the ACA, but lost at the Supreme Court.

01:32:25.000 And he would have repealed the ACA had it not been for the courage of John McCain to save that bill.

01:32:32.000 Now fast forward, what that means to you is you lose your pre-existing conditions.

01:32:36.000 If you're sitting at home and you got asthma, too bad.

01:32:38.000 If you're a woman, probably not. 0.99

01:32:40.000 Broke your foot during football, might kick you out.

01:32:43.000 Your kids get kicked out when they're 26.

01:32:45.000 Kamala Harris negotiated drug prices for the first time with Medicare.

01:32:49.000 We have 10 drugs that will come online, the most common ones that will be there.

01:32:53.000 But look, this issue—and when Donald Trump said, I've got a concept of a plan, it cracked me up as a fourth-grade teacher, because my kids would have never given me that.

01:33:03.000 But what Senator Vance just explained might be worse than a concept, because what he explained is pre-Obamacare.

01:33:10.000 And I'll make this as simple as possible, because I have done this for a long time.

01:33:13.000 What they're saying is, if you're healthy, why should you be paying more?

01:33:18.000 So what they're going to do is let insurance companies pick who they insure.

01:33:22.000 Because guess what happens?

01:33:23.000 You pay your premium.

01:33:24.000 It's not much.

01:33:25.000 They figure they're not going to have to pay out to you.

01:33:26.000 But those of you a little older, gray, you know, got cancer, you're going to get kicked out of it.

01:33:32.000 That's why the system didn't work.

01:33:34.000 Kamala Harris will protect and enhance the ACA. Governor, thank you.

01:33:38.000 Senator, you have not yet explained how you would protect people with preexisting conditions or laid out that plan.

01:33:44.000 Well, look, we currently have laws and regulations in place right now that protect people with preexisting conditions.

01:33:50.000 We want to keep those regulations in place, but we also want to make the health insurance marketplace function a little bit better.

01:33:56.000 Now, what Governor Walz just said is actually not true.

01:33:59.000 A lot of what happened and the reason that Obamacare was crushing under its own weight is that a lot of young and healthy people were leaving the exchanges.

01:34:08.000 Actually helped address that problem, and he did so in a way that preserved people's access to coverage who had pre-existing conditions.

01:34:15.000 But again, something that these guys do is they make a lot of claims about if Donald Trump becomes president, all of these terrible consequences are going to ensue.

01:34:25.000 But in reality, Donald Trump was president.

01:34:28.000 Inflation was low, take-home pay was higher, and he saved the very program from a Democratic administration that was collapsing and would have collapsed absent his leadership.

01:34:38.000 He did his job, which is govern, in a bipartisan way and get results, not just complain about problems, but actually solve them.

01:34:46.000 Governor, did enrollment under the Affordable Care Act go up under the Trump administration?

01:34:51.000 It's higher now that we've seen it go up.

01:34:53.000 Look, people are using it.

01:34:54.000 The system works.

01:34:55.000 And the question about this, of young people or whatever, that's the individual mandate piece of this.

01:35:00.000 And Republicans fought tooth and nail, saying, well, Americans should be free to do this.

01:35:04.000 So you think the individual mandate's a good idea?

01:35:07.000 I think the idea of making sure the risk pool is broad enough to cover everyone, that's the only way insurance works.

01:35:12.000 When it doesn't, it collapses.

01:35:13.000 You are asking pre-ACA where we get people out.

01:35:17.000 Look, people know that they need to be on healthcare.

01:35:21.000 People expect it to be there.

01:35:23.000 And when we are able to make it, and we are making it this way, when we incentivize people to be in the market, When we help people who might not be able to afford it get there, and we make sure then, when you get sick and old, it's there for you.

01:35:37.000 Because I heard people say, well, I don't want to buy into Medicare or whatever.

01:35:40.000 Good luck buying healthcare once you get past 70.

01:35:42.000 So look, the ACA works.

01:35:44.000 We can continue to do better.

01:35:46.000 Kamala Harris did that. 1.00

01:35:47.000 The way she made everything better was negotiating those 10 drugs on Medicare for the first time in American history.

01:35:53.000 Thank you.

01:35:54.000 Margaret, I apologize.

01:35:56.000 We're out of time.

01:35:56.000 We have a number of subjects to discuss.

01:35:58.000 Margaret, let's talk about families in America.

01:36:02.000 There is a child care crisis in this country, and the United States is one of the very few developed countries in the world without a national paid leave program for new parents.

01:36:14.000 Governor Walz, you said that if Democrats win both the White House and Congress, this is a day one priority for you.

01:36:22.000 How long should employers be required to pay workers while they are home taking care of their newborns? 0.90

01:36:27.000 You have two minutes.

01:36:29.000 Yeah, well, that's negotiable.

01:36:31.000 And that's what Congress worked.

01:36:32.000 But here's what the deal is.

01:36:34.000 Americans sitting out there right now, you may work for a big company.

01:36:37.000 Look, we're home in Minnesota to some of the largest Fortune 500 companies.

01:36:41.000 Kamala Harris knows that in California.

01:36:43.000 Those companies provide paid family medical leave.

01:36:46.000 One is, I think they're moral and they think it's a good thing, but it also keeps their employees healthy.

01:36:51.000 We in Minnesota passed a paid family medical leave.

01:36:54.000 You have a child, You, and I had to go back to work five days after my kids were born, this allows you to stay home a certain amount of time.

01:37:02.000 What we know is that gets the child off to a better start, the family works better, we stay in their employers, we get more consistency in that.

01:37:09.000 So Kamala Harris has made it a priority.

01:37:10.000 We implemented it in Minnesota and we see growth.

01:37:13.000 That's how you become a pro-business state.

01:37:16.000 But the negotiations on it, and here's the issue, those big companies are able to offer it, Those of you out there who don't have it, just imagine what happens if you get cancer or your child gets sick.

01:37:28.000 We know what happens.

01:37:29.000 You end up staying home.

01:37:31.000 In some cases, that means no paycheck because you've got no protection on that.

01:37:35.000 This is the case of an economy that Donald Trump has set for the wealthiest amongst us.

01:37:40.000 He's willing to give those Tax breaks to the wealthiest.

01:37:44.000 He's willing to say, bust those unions up, do whatever.

01:37:48.000 What we're saying is the economy works best when it works for all of us.

01:37:52.000 And so a paid family medical leave program—and I will tell you, go to the families or go to the businesses and ask them.

01:37:58.000 As far as childcare on this, you have to take it at both the supply and the demand side.

01:38:03.000 You can't expect the most important people in our lives to take either our children Or our parents to get paid the least amount of money.

01:38:11.000 And we have to make it easier for folks to be able to get into that business and then to make sure that folks are able to pay for that. 0.96

01:38:17.000 We were able to do it in Minnesota and I'm still telling you this.

01:38:20.000 We were listed as the best state.

01:38:22.000 We're still in crisis on this.

01:38:23.000 A federal program of paid family medical leave and help with this will enhance our workforce, enhance our families, and make it easier to have the children that you want.

01:38:31.000 Governor, your time is up.

01:38:33.000 Senator, do you support a national paid leave program?

01:38:36.000 And if so, for how long should employers be mandated to pay their employees while they are home taking care of their newborn?

01:38:44.000 You have two minutes.

01:38:45.000 Yeah, well, first of all, Margaret, a number of my Republican colleagues and some Democrats, too, have worked on this issue.

01:38:49.000 And I think there is a bipartisan solution here because a lot of us care about this issue.

01:38:53.000 And I mean, look, I speak from this very personally because I'm married to a beautiful woman who is an incredible mother to our three beautiful kids, but is also a very, very brilliant corporate litigator.

01:39:04.000 And I'm so proud of her.

01:39:05.000 But being a working mom, even for somebody with all of the advantages of my wife, is extraordinarily difficult.

01:39:12.000 And it's not just difficult from a policy perspective.

01:39:15.000 She actually had access to paid family leave because she worked for a bigger company. 0.94

01:39:19.000 But the cultural pressure on young families and especially young women, I think makes it really hard for people to choose the family model they want.

01:39:27.000 A lot of young women would like to go back to work immediately. 1.00

01:39:30.000 Some would like to spend a little time home with the kids.

01:39:32.000 Some would like to spend longer at home with the kids.

01:39:34.000 We should have a family care model that makes choice possible.

01:39:38.000 And I think this is a very important substantive difference between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris's approach.

01:39:43.000 I mean, look, if you look at the federal programs that we have that support paid family leave right now, the Community Development Block Grant, there's another block grant program that spends a lot of money from the federal government.

01:39:54.000 These programs only go to one kind of childcare model.

01:39:57.000 Let's say you'd like your church, maybe, to help you out with childcare.

01:40:01.000 Maybe you live in a rural area or an urban area and you'd like to get together with families in your neighborhood to provide childcare in the way that makes the most sense.

01:40:08.000 You don't get access to any of these federal monies.

01:40:11.000 We want to promote choice in how we deliver family care and how we promote childcare because, look, it is unacceptable.

01:40:19.000 And, you know, of course, Tim and I have been on the campaign trail a lot the past seven or eight weeks.

01:40:23.000 And one of the biggest complaints I hear from young families is people who feel like they don't have options, like they're choosing between going to work or taking care for their kids.

01:40:32.000 That is an incredible burden to put on American families.

01:40:35.000 We're the only country that does it.

01:40:37.000 I think we could do a heck of a lot better.

01:40:39.000 Senator, thank you.

01:40:41.000 You have also said, Senator Vance, many things about the American family.

01:40:46.000 The Federal Reserve says parents will spend nearly as much on childcare as they do on housing each month.

01:40:54.000 So I want to get your thoughts on this.

01:40:57.000 President Trump recently said As much as childcare is talked about as being expensive, it's, relatively speaking, not very expensive compared to the kinds of numbers we'll be taking in.

01:41:10.000 Is President Trump committed to the $5,000 per child tax credit that you have described?

01:41:16.000 You have one minute.

01:41:17.000 What President Trump said, Margaret, I just want to defend my running mate here a little bit, is that we're going to be taking in a lot of money by penalizing companies for shipping jobs overseas and penalizing countries who employ slave laborers and then ship their products back into our country and undercut the wages of American workers.

01:41:34.000 It's the heart of the Donald Trump economic plan.

01:41:37.000 Cut taxes for American workers and American families.

01:41:40.000 Cut taxes for businesses that are hiring and building companies in the United States of America, but penalize companies and countries that are shipping jobs overseas.

01:41:49.000 That's the heart of the economic proposal.

01:41:51.000 And I think what President Trump is saying is that when we bring in this additional revenue with higher economic growth, we're going to be able to provide paid family leave, childcare options that are viable and workable for a lot of American families.

01:42:05.000 Can you clarify how that will solve the child care shortage?

01:42:10.000 Well, because, as Tim said, a lot of the child care shortage is we just don't have enough resources going into the multiple people who could be providing family care options.

01:42:19.000 And we're going to have to, unfortunately, look, we're going to have to spend more money.

01:42:23.000 We're going to have to induce more people to want to provide child care options for American families, because the reason it's so expensive right now is because you've got way too few people providing this very essential service.

01:42:34.000 Thank you, Senator.

01:42:35.000 Governor Walz, your ticket also has some child care tax credit proposed. 0.93

01:42:40.000 The reason why is because we got the divorce rates are too fucking high. 0.94

01:42:43.000 That's why. 0.98

01:42:45.000 Keep the women at home. 1.00

01:42:48.000 Come on, man.

01:42:49.000 Payne has promise.

01:42:50.000 Is that realistic?

01:42:51.000 I'll wait, Chad.

01:42:53.000 I can't cook right now, Chad.

01:42:53.000 I'll cook later.

01:42:54.000 I can tell you.

01:42:55.000 And this is the biggest issue.

01:42:57.000 Everybody listening tonight knows.

01:42:58.000 I mean, I'm sure they were shocked to hear it's not that expensive.

01:43:01.000 And let's be clear.

01:43:02.000 Whether it's $5,000 or $6,000, that plays you about three or four months. 0.87

01:43:05.000 The divorce rates are too fucking high. 0.80

01:43:06.000 Let's be clear of where we're at on this. 0.98

01:43:08.000 It's because we got out of an imbalance on this.

01:43:10.000 We thought we were going to get by by not paying people.

01:43:12.000 I don't think Senator Vance and I are that far apart.

01:43:15.000 I'm not opposed to what he's talking about on options.

01:43:17.000 We've done scholarship types of things.

01:43:18.000 I think we need to be open to making the case.

01:43:20.000 But the issue here is, the question you asked is, You're not going to pay for it with these tariffs.

01:43:26.000 That's just adding another $4,000 on the family and taking less. 0.97

01:43:29.000 So not only do they not get the money to pay for that, they're $4,000 in the hole.

01:43:33.000 That's Wharton School.

01:43:34.000 That's his alma mater.

01:43:35.000 And so I think the issue here is, if those members of Congress, I can't believe they're not—when I go to businesses, sure, they'll talk about taxes sometime, but they will lead with child care and they will lead with housing.

01:43:47.000 Because we know the problem is, especially in a state like Minnesota, we need more workers because our economy is growing, but we need the workforce.

01:43:53.000 Governor, thank you.

01:43:54.000 We need to move on.

01:43:55.000 Nora?

01:43:56.000 Let's talk about the state of democracy, the top issue for Americans after the economy and inflation.

01:44:02.000 After the 2020 election, President Trump's campaign and others filed 62 lawsuits contesting the results.

01:44:09.000 Judges, including those appointed by President Trump and other Republican presidents, looked at the evidence and said there was no widespread fraud.

01:44:19.000 The governors of every state in the nation, Republicans and Democrats, certified the 2020 election results and sent a legal slate of electors to Congress for January 6th.

01:44:33.000 Senator Vance, you have said you would not have certified the last presidential election and would have asked the states to submit alternative electors.

01:44:42.000 That has been called unconstitutional and illegal.

01:44:45.000 Would you again seek to challenge this year's election results, even if every governor certifies the results?

01:44:53.000 I'll give you two minutes.

01:44:55.000 Well, Nora, first of all, I think that we're focused on the future.

01:44:57.000 We need to figure out how to solve the inflation crisis caused by Kamala Harris's policies, make housing affordable, make groceries affordable. 0.98

01:45:04.000 And that's what we're focused on.

01:45:05.000 But I want to answer your question because you did ask it.

01:45:08.000 What President Trump has said is that there were problems in 2020.

01:45:11.000 And my own belief is that we should fight about those issues, debate those issues peacefully in the public square.

01:45:18.000 And that's all I've said.

01:45:20.000 And that's all that Donald Trump has said.

01:45:22.000 He said that on January the 6th, the protesters ought to protest peacefully.

01:45:26.000 And on January the 20th, what happened?

01:45:28.000 Joe Biden became the president.

01:45:30.000 Donald Trump left the White House.

01:45:31.000 And now, of course, unfortunately, we have all of the negative policies that have come from the Harris Biden administration.

01:45:38.000 I believe that we actually do have a threat to democracy in this country, but unfortunately, it's not the threat to democracy that Kamala Harris and Tim Walz want to talk about.

01:45:47.000 It is the threat of censorship.

01:45:49.000 It's Americans casting aside lifelong friendships because of disagreements over politics.

01:45:54.000 It's big technology companies silencing their fellow citizens.

01:45:58.000 And it's Kamala Harris saying that rather than debate and persuade her fellow Americans, she'd like to censor people who engage in misinformation. 0.85

01:46:06.000 I think that is a much bigger threat to democracy than anything that we've seen in this country in the last four years, in the last 40 years.

01:46:13.000 Now, I'm really proud, especially given that I was raised by two lifelong blue-collar Democrats, to have the endorsement of Bobby Kennedy Jr.

01:46:20.000 and Tulsi Gabbard, lifelong leaders in the Democratic coalition.

01:46:25.000 They don't agree with me and Donald Trump on every issue.

01:46:27.000 We don't have to agree on every issue.

01:46:29.000 But we're united behind a basic American First Amendment principle that we ought to debate our differences.

01:46:35.000 We ought to argue about them.

01:46:36.000 We ought to try to persuade our fellow Americans.

01:46:38.000 Kamala Harris is engaged in censorship at an industrial scale.

01:46:43.000 She did it during COVID. She's done it over a number of other issues.

01:46:46.000 And that, to me, is a much bigger threat to democracy than what Donald Trump said when he said that protesters should peacefully protest on January the 6th.

01:46:54.000 Governor?

01:46:55.000 He did say that peaceful process.

01:46:57.000 Well, I've enjoyed tonight's debate, and I think there was a lot of commonality here, and I'm sympathetic to misspeaking on things, and I think I might have with the senator.

01:47:04.000 Me too, man.

01:47:05.000 There's one, though, that this one is troubling to me, and I say that because I think we need to tell the story.

01:47:10.000 Donald Trump refused to acknowledge this, and the fact is that I don't think we can be the frog in the pot and let the boiling water go up.

01:47:16.000 He was very clear.

01:47:18.000 I mean, he lost this election, and he said he didn't.

01:47:21.000 140 police officers were beaten at the Capitol that day, some with the American flag, several later died.

01:47:27.000 And it wasn't just in there.

01:47:29.000 In Minnesota, a group gathered on the state Capitol grounds in St.

01:47:33.000 Paul and said, we're marching to the governor's residence, and there may be casualties.

01:47:37.000 The only person there was my son and his dog, who was rushed out crying by state police.

01:47:43.000 That issue and Mike Pence standing there as they were chanting, hang Mike Pence.

01:47:48.000 Mike Pence made the right decision.

01:47:50.000 So, Senator, it was adjudicated over and over and over.

01:47:54.000 I worked with kids long enough to know, and I said as a football coach, sometimes you really want to win, but the democracy is bigger than winning an election.

01:48:01.000 You shake hands, and then you try and do everything you can to help the other side win.

01:48:06.000 That's what was at stake here.

01:48:08.000 Now, the thing I'm most concerned about is the idea that Imprisoning your political opponents.

01:48:15.000 Already laying the groundwork for people not accepting this.

01:48:19.000 And a president's words matter.

01:48:21.000 A president's words matter.

01:48:23.000 People hear that.

01:48:24.000 So I think this issue of settling our differences at the ballot box, shaking hands when we lose, being honest about it, but to deny what happened on January 6th, the first time in American history That a president or anyone tried to overturn a fair election and the peaceful transfer of power.

01:48:46.000 And here we are four years later in the same boat.

01:48:49.000 I will tell you this, that when this is over, we need to shake hands, this election, and the winner needs to be the winner.

01:48:56.000 This has got to stop.

01:48:57.000 It's tearing our country apart.

01:48:59.000 Margaret?

01:49:00.000 Senator Vance, did you want to respond to that?

01:49:02.000 Yeah, well, look, Tim, first of all, it's really rich for Democratic leaders to say that Donald Trump is a unique threat to democracy when he peacefully gave over power on January the 20th, as we have done for 250 years in this country.

01:49:18.000 We are going to shake hands after this debate and after this election.

01:49:21.000 And, of course, I hope that we win, and I think we're going to win.

01:49:23.000 But if Tim Walz is the next vice president, he'll have my prayers, he'll have my best wishes, and he'll have my help whenever he wants it.

01:49:30.000 But we have to remember that for years in this country, Democrats protested the results of elections.

01:49:36.000 Hillary Clinton in 2016 said that Donald Trump had the election stolen by Vladimir Putin because the Russians bought like $500,000 worth of Facebook ads.

01:49:46.000 This has been going on for a long time.

01:49:48.000 And if we want to say that we need to respect the results of the election, I'm on board.

01:49:53.000 But if we want to say, as Tim Walz is saying, that this is just a problem that Republicans have had, I don't buy that.

01:49:59.000 Governor?

01:50:00.000 January 6th was not Facebook ads.

01:50:02.000 And I think a revisionist history on this.

01:50:06.000 Don't understand how we got to this point.

01:50:08.000 But the issue was that happened.

01:50:11.000 Donald Trump can't do it.

01:50:12.000 And all of us say there's no place for this.

01:50:14.000 It has massive repercussions.

01:50:16.000 This idea that there's censorship to stop people from doing, threatening to kill someone, threatening to do something, that's not censorship.

01:50:24.000 Censorship is book banning.

01:50:25.000 We've seen that.

01:50:26.000 We've seen that brought up.

01:50:27.000 I just think for everyone tonight, and I'm going to Thanks, Senator Vance.

01:50:33.000 I think this is the conversation they want to hear.

01:50:36.000 And I think there's a lot of agreement.

01:50:38.000 This is one that we are miles apart on.

01:50:40.000 This was a threat to our democracy in a way that we had not seen.

01:50:44.000 And it manifested itself because of Donald Trump's inability to say.

01:50:47.000 He is still saying he didn't lose the election.

01:50:50.000 I would just add to that.

01:50:51.000 Did he lose the 2020 election?

01:50:53.000 Tim, I'm focused on the future.

01:50:55.000 Did Kamala Harris censor Americans from speaking their mind in the wake of the 2020 COVID situation?

01:51:02.000 That is a damning non-answer.

01:51:04.000 It's a damning non-answer for you to not talk about censorship.

01:51:07.000 Obviously, Donald Trump and I think that there were problems in 2020. 1.00

01:51:10.000 Fuck censorship. 1.00

01:51:11.000 We've talked about it. 1.00

01:51:12.000 I'm happy to talk about it further.

01:51:13.000 But you guys attack us for not believing in democracy.

01:51:17.000 The most sacred right under the United States democracy is the First Amendment.

01:51:22.000 You yourself have said there's no First Amendment right to misinformation.

01:51:26.000 Kamala Harris wants to use the power of government and big tech to silence people from speaking their minds. 1.00

01:51:32.000 That is a threat to democracy that will long outlive this present political moment.

01:51:36.000 I would like Democrats and Republicans to both reject censorship.

01:51:40.000 Let's persuade one another.

01:51:41.000 Let's argue about ideas and then let's come together You can't yell fire in a crowded theater.

01:51:47.000 That's the test.

01:51:48.000 That's the Supreme Court test.

01:51:49.000 Tim, fire in a crowded theater.

01:51:51.000 You guys wanted to kick people off of Facebook for saying that toddlers shouldn't wear masks.

01:51:55.000 Senator, the governor does have the floor.

01:51:56.000 Fire in a crowded theater.

01:51:58.000 That is criticizing the policies of the government, which is the right of every American.

01:52:03.000 Senator, the governor does have the floor for one minute to respond to you.

01:52:07.000 I don't run Facebook.

01:52:08.000 What I do know is I see a candidate out there who refused and now again, and I'm pretty shocked by this, he lost the election.

01:52:16.000 This is not a debate.

01:52:18.000 It's not anything anywhere other than in Donald Trump's world.

01:52:23.000 Because look, when Mike Pence made that decision to certify that election, that's why Mike Pence isn't on this stage.

01:52:31.000 What I'm concerned about is where is the firewall with Donald Trump Where is the firewall if he knows he could do anything, including taking an election, and his vice president's not going to stand to it?

01:52:47.000 That's what we're asking you, America.

01:52:49.000 Will you stand up?

01:52:50.000 Will you keep your oath of office, even if the president doesn't?

01:52:55.000 And I think Kamala Harris would agree.

01:52:56.000 She wouldn't have picked me if she didn't think I would do that, because, of course, that's what we would do.

01:53:01.000 So, America, I think you've got a really clear choice on this election of who's going to honor that democracy And who's going to honor Donald Trump?

01:53:09.000 Governor, your time is up.

01:53:11.000 Thank you, gentlemen.

01:53:12.000 Zuckerberg already admitted that they ran Facebook.

01:53:13.000 We will be right back with both of our candidates. 1.00

01:53:16.000 That's bullshit. 0.99

01:53:16.000 The CBS News vice presidential debate continues. 0.99

01:53:19.000 Come on, Tim.

01:53:21.000 He cooked them there. 1.00

01:53:23.000 And, you know, just so you guys know, fuck censorship, man. 1.00

01:53:25.000 Like, it is a serious fucking problem is censorship on the main platforms. 1.00

01:53:30.000 It is really a problem. 0.97

01:53:32.000 So, and Kamala wants to push for censorship. 1.00

01:53:35.000 You know what I mean?

01:53:35.000 She wants to push for it.

01:53:37.000 So, that's a serious issue that we got.

01:53:40.000 Which, by the way, guys, what I'm going to do is, I'm going to turn the FedReact stream off, and I want you guys to come on over to Twitch.

01:53:48.000 Alright?

01:53:49.000 Twitch.tv slash Fresh and Fit Podcast.

01:53:52.000 Alright?

01:53:52.000 I want you ninjas to come on over.

01:53:54.000 I'm going to turn the FedReact stream off.

01:53:56.000 Alright?

01:53:56.000 We're also live on Fresh and Fit.

01:53:58.000 So you guys can pick.

01:53:59.000 Or you guys can come on X. We're live on X. Rumble, we're live everybody.

01:54:03.000 But I'd appreciate if you guys came over to Twitch.

01:54:06.000 Because on Twitch, we're trying to bring our numbers up.

01:54:09.000 Right?

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01:57:58.000 Today is back.

01:57:59.000 The last leg of this thing, let's start cooking.

01:58:01.000 And the folks who miss dancing with our stars, I appreciate it.

01:58:04.000 But look, the support of the democracy matters.

01:58:07.000 It matters that you're here.

01:58:08.000 And I'm as surprised as anybody of this coalition that Kamala Harris has built, from Bernie Sanders to Dick Cheney to Taylor Swift, and a whole bunch of folks in between there.

01:58:19.000 And they don't all agree on everything, but they are truly optimistic people.

01:58:23.000 They believe in a positive future of this country and one where our politics can be better than it is.

01:58:29.000 And I have to tell you, that better than it is is the sense of optimism that there can be an opportunity economy.

01:58:38.000 That works for everyone, not just to get by, but to get ahead.

01:58:41.000 And the idea that freedom really means something.

01:58:44.000 Not the freedom of government to be in your bedroom or exam room, but the freedom for you to make choices about yourself.

01:58:49.000 Now, look, we all know who Donald Trump is.

01:58:53.000 He's told us, and as Maya Angelou said, believe him when he told you that.

01:58:56.000 His first inaugural address talked about American carnage.

01:58:59.000 And then he spent four years trying to maybe do that.

01:59:03.000 Senator Vance tonight made it clear he will stand...

01:59:07.000 With Donald Trump's agenda, he will continue to push down that road.

01:59:12.000 Kamala Harris gives us a different option.

01:59:14.000 Now, I have to tell you, I'm going to be careful about the quotes, but there's one that Senator Vance said that does resonate with me.

01:59:21.000 He said Donald Trump makes the people I care about afraid.

01:59:25.000 A lot of America feels that way.

01:59:27.000 We don't need to be afraid.

01:59:28.000 Franklin Roosevelt was right. 0.73

01:59:30.000 All we have to fear is fear itself.

01:59:32.000 Kamala Harris is bringing us a new way forward.

01:59:35.000 She's bringing us a politics of joy.

01:59:37.000 She's bringing real solutions for the middle class. 0.99

01:59:39.000 And she's centering you at the heart of that.

01:59:42.000 All the while asking everyone, join this movement.

01:59:45.000 Make your voices heard.

01:59:47.000 Let's look for a new day where everybody gets that opportunity and everybody gets a chance to thrive.

01:59:53.000 I humbly ask for your vote on November 5th for Kamala Harris.

01:59:57.000 Governor Walz, thank you.

01:59:59.000 Senator Vance, your closing statement.

02:00:01.000 Well, I want to thank Governor Walz, you folks at CBS, and of course the American people for tuning in this evening.

02:00:06.000 And one of the issues we didn't talk about was energy.

02:00:09.000 And I remember when I was being raised by my grandmother, when she didn't have enough money to turn on the heat some nights because Ohio gets pretty cold at night and because money was often very tight.

02:00:19.000 And I believe, as a person who wants to be your next vice president, that we are a rich and prosperous enough country where every American, whether they're rich or poor, ought to be able to turn on their heat in the middle of a cold winter night.

02:00:31.000 That's gotten more difficult, thanks to Kamala Harris's energy policies. 1.00

02:00:34.000 I believe that whether you're rich or poor, you ought to be able to afford a nice meal for your family.

02:00:39.000 That's gotten harder because of Kamala Harris's policies. 1.00

02:00:43.000 I believe that whether you're rich or poor, you ought to be able to afford to buy a house.

02:00:46.000 You ought to be able to live in safe neighborhoods.

02:00:48.000 You ought to not have your communities flooded with fentanyl.

02:00:51.000 And that, too, has gotten harder because of Kamala Harris's policies. 1.00

02:00:55.000 Now, I've been in politics long enough to do what Kamala Harris does when she stands before the American people and says that on day one, she's going to work on all these challenges I just listed. 0.99

02:01:06.000 She's been the vice president for three and a half years.

02:01:09.000 Day one was 1,400 days ago, and her policies have made these problems worse. 1.00

02:01:15.000 Now, I believe that we have the most beautiful country in the world.

02:01:19.000 I meet people on the campaign trail who can't afford food.

02:01:22.000 But have the grace and generosity to ask me how I'm doing and to tell me they're praying for my family.

02:01:28.000 What that has taught me is that we have the greatest country, the most beautiful country, the most incredible people anywhere in the world.

02:01:35.000 But they're not going to be able to achieve their full dreams with the broken leadership that we have in Washington.

02:01:42.000 They're not going to be able to live their American dream if we do the same thing that we've been doing for the last three and a half years.

02:01:49.000 We need change.

02:01:50.000 We need a new direction.

02:01:51.000 We need a president who has already done this once before and did it well.

02:01:55.000 Please vote for Donald Trump.

02:01:57.000 And whether you vote for me or vote for Tim Walz, I just want to say I'm so proud to be doing this, and I'm rooting for you.

02:02:03.000 God bless you, and good night.

02:02:04.000 Senator Vance, thank you.

02:02:06.000 And thank you both for participating in the only vice presidential debate of this election cycle.

02:02:12.000 I'm Margaret Brennan.

02:02:14.000 And I'm Nora O'Donnell.

02:02:14.000 Let's go.

02:02:15.000 And a reminder, there are just 35 days until Election Day.

02:02:18.000 Please get out and vote.

02:02:19.000 All right, I want to ask you guys, who do you think won?

02:02:21.000 And for all of us here at CBS News, thank you and good night.

02:02:23.000 Let's go ahead and run a thing.

02:02:26.000 I want to see who you guys thought was a...

02:02:31.000 Who won?

02:02:32.000 The first and only vice presidential debate This election is now complete.

02:02:46.000 It was a courtial debate of the kind that people mostly say they want.

02:02:50.000 You notice here the two candidates lingering on the stage.

02:02:53.000 Let's see here.

02:02:53.000 That's quite a difference from the presidential debate in which we're not even sure that Vice President Harris and Donald Trump would shake hands.

02:03:01.000 It was a debate in which the line, I appreciate what Tim said about Finland, was one of the many ways in which Senator Vance agreed with the governor.

02:03:10.000 The governor agreed right back.

02:03:11.000 But that's the tone and the kind of theater review of this.

02:03:16.000 I'll pick out two issues.

02:03:18.000 On the question of the top of the news today, which is the Middle East and the kinds of foreign policy surprises that hit any president.

02:03:26.000 Tim Walz made the case that Donald Trump's Temperament is unfit for any kind of surprise, cited the members of the Trump administration who have attested to that.

02:03:35.000 Vance came back and said there were no wars during the Trump administration.

02:03:39.000 On the economy, I'll make a political point, which is that what Vance did was something Donald Trump was incapable of doing during his presidential debate, which is repeatedly saying, if Kamala Harris was going to do these things, why didn't she in office?

02:03:53.000 Guys, let's keep the hype train going.

02:03:54.000 Is the hype train done?

02:03:59.000 Guys, we're halfway there.

02:04:05.000 Let's get that hype train to 10.

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02:04:07.000 Let's go.

02:04:07.000 Let's get this thing to 10, baby.

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02:04:20.000 Of a kind we never saw during the Trump administration. 0.99

02:04:22.000 He talked about Donald Trump almost as the defender of the Affordable Care Act.

02:04:25.000 Donald Trump tried to kill the Affordable Care Act.

02:04:27.000 And then I think at the very end of the debate we saw something extraordinary.

02:04:30.000 Tim Walz asked J.D. Vance if Donald Trump lost the election.

02:04:33.000 He was incapable of answering that simple yes-no question.

02:04:37.000 J.D. Vance can only get so far from the man at the top of the ticket, and that was on display in that one moment, although J.D. Vance was a different kind of person than we've seen in many instances.

02:04:47.000 John, I think what you're saying is so important when we talk about demeanor because of the...

02:04:53.000 Polls up on YouTube, guys.

02:04:56.000 Vote.

02:04:56.000 ...to tonight.

02:04:57.000 J.D. Vance came...

02:04:58.000 Poll is live.

02:04:59.000 Also, we got a hype train going as well. 0.99

02:05:02.000 Let's get that thing to fucking 10. 0.99

02:05:03.000 People came in expecting him to be Donald Trump's attack dog tonight. 0.99

02:05:07.000 That's not the side we saw from him.

02:05:09.000 There was a couple of compassionate moments even.

02:05:11.000 You mentioned the word...

02:05:15.000 We saw that from him very much.

02:05:16.000 I also think it's worth pointing out the demeanor we saw from Governor Walz, particularly when it came to his moments where he was put on the defensive about his own biography and embellishments that he has made in the past, particularly in this case on China.

02:05:30.000 You and I have talked about this a lot coming into this evening.

02:05:32.000 Major, you're going to help us with fact checks over the course of the next few minutes.

02:05:36.000 But there is a big one that we need to talk about at the top of it, which came on immigration in the discussion tonight.

02:05:43.000 And particularly the Trump administration's plan, a major centerpiece of their campaign to undergo mass deportations for undocumented immigrants in this country.

02:05:53.000 J.D. Vance particularly said that migrants will be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border wand.

02:06:01.000 This was in the conversation, this ongoing conversation about Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio.

02:06:06.000 Many of them are recipients of temporary legal status, and we just have to say, John, that they are in this country legally.

02:06:13.000 All right.

02:06:14.000 We will be right back in a moment with more coverage of the vice presidential debate.

02:06:17.000 And we'll fact check some of the claims made by...

02:06:20.000 All right.

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02:06:29.000 Hype Train.

02:06:29.000 Where are we at with the Hype Train, guys?

02:06:32.000 Where are we at with the Hype Train?

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02:07:10.000 Let's keep going here.

02:07:10.000 We got two minutes to go.

02:07:12.000 Let's keep cooking.

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02:07:20.000 Shout out to Heck, gave out five community subs.

02:07:22.000 Shout out to you, sir.

02:07:23.000 Appreciate that.

02:07:24.000 We're at Hype Train Level 7.

02:07:26.000 Kodota, cheered 100 bits.

02:07:30.000 We got the poll going.

02:07:31.000 It seems as though on YouTube, you guys are saying...

02:07:34.000 91% of you guys are saying Vance won.

02:07:37.000 And then on Twitch...

02:07:39.000 Let's see here.

02:07:40.000 On the poll...

02:07:42.000 You guys are saying...

02:07:45.000 96% of you guys voted Vance won.

02:07:47.000 Holy!

02:07:49.000 Yeah.

02:07:49.000 But I would argue that this was a much better debate...

02:07:52.000 Than last time. 1.00

02:07:55.000 Much better fucking debate. 1.00

02:07:57.000 Much better. 1.00

02:07:59.000 Um... 0.99

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02:08:05.000 We're at level 7 hype train.

02:08:08.000 Again, guys, if you're a brokie, now is the time to say that you're a brokie. 0.99

02:08:11.000 We're taking a break in between the debates.

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02:08:19.000 All right?

02:08:21.000 So, come on over.

02:08:23.000 Matter of fact, I want to see what percentage you guys are getting...

02:08:27.000 Ads.

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02:08:30.000 I want all of you guys to vote.

02:08:39.000 Thank you.

02:08:40.000 Starting a new poll.

02:08:41.000 You only got three minutes to vote.

02:08:43.000 Are you seeing ads?

02:08:47.000 So let me give my take on it now that we kind of established.

02:08:50.000 So, number one, this is a way better debate than the presidential debate. 1.00

02:08:53.000 The presidential debate was a fucking shit show. 1.00

02:08:56.000 It was wild. 1.00

02:08:58.000 A lot of the times they didn't answer the questions.

02:09:01.000 The moderators were clearly biased.

02:09:04.000 The moderators were fact checking Trump a lot.

02:09:06.000 They weren't necessarily fact checking Kamala.

02:09:08.000 That was really annoying and frustrating.

02:09:10.000 There was some talk that Kamala got the questions beforehand.

02:09:14.000 Before the debate, which honestly, the more I think about it, I think it's possible because we know that Kamala is a terrible public speaker and she's not necessarily able to operate off the cuff. 0.99

02:09:25.000 So that also had me questioning some things.

02:09:30.000 And she's also good friends with the head of the network as well.

02:09:36.000 Oh, they're back.

02:09:37.000 Let's get this going.

02:09:39.000 Yeah.

02:09:40.000 Guys, let's get up to...

02:09:42.000 We're at level eight.

02:09:44.000 Two more to go.

02:09:45.000 Let's go.

02:09:46.000 Hype train ten, chat. 0.99

02:09:47.000 Hype train fucking ten. 0.98

02:09:49.000 ...more substantive on the facts and policy than the leading candidates the presidential nominees have been to date. 0.97

02:09:54.000 It was, in a way, a kind of embrace of bipartisanship on tough issues, gun violence, healthcare, childcare, even, well, this was less true, on reproductive rights.

02:10:07.000 And one thing that I think will be a surprise to anyone in the Republican Party, the biggest secret of the entire Trump administration is that he saved Obamacare.

02:10:15.000 It's a big secret because he never even said that.

02:10:18.000 But this debate was an example to the country of how you can disagree agreeably, how you can talk about shared goals for the country.

02:10:25.000 And in that sense, I think it's extremely important for J.D. Vance that he did not sound as he sounds on the stump.

02:10:31.000 It was his biography and his appeal to bipartisanship that will be most distinguishing about not only his present, but his possible future.

02:10:40.000 Nancy, your thoughts?

02:10:42.000 I think if you took a shot every time you heard the words, I agree tonight, you'd be at the table right now.

02:10:48.000 This was a surprisingly affable debate for two men who we know from our reporting do not like each other.

02:10:56.000 They said that they agreed on housing policy.

02:10:59.000 They said that they agreed on some aspects of immigration policy.

02:11:02.000 And that tells you guys that the Republican Party has become a lot more central.

02:11:06.000 They've definitely leaned a bit left.

02:11:08.000 It's definitely this administration as well.

02:11:09.000 That should tell you something that they agree on so many things.

02:11:12.000 Talking to feel fine about the debate.

02:11:14.000 They're not doing cartwheels the way they were after the Harris and Trump debate a few weeks ago.

02:11:19.000 But they think that this went well for them.

02:11:22.000 And I predict that that exchange between Vance and Walls about whether Donald Trump lost the election is going to end up in a Harris ad by the end of the week.

02:11:32.000 Both of these contenders came to the stage tonight being favorites of the base in their respective parties.

02:11:38.000 Governor Walz was someone who went on television and called Republicans weird.

02:11:42.000 Senator J.D. Vance was someone who would go on podcasts with Donald Trump Jr.

02:11:46.000 and other favorites of the right.

02:11:48.000 And say the left was essentially weird.

02:11:50.000 Tonight on stage, you didn't hear a lot about that.

02:11:53.000 You heard an approach to build on our colleagues' reporting and analysis here.

02:11:57.000 It was about appealing to the middle.

02:11:59.000 For J.D. Vance, giving reassurance to traditional Republicans, conservatives, that they have a place in this Republican Party, even with former President Trump.

02:12:08.000 They might not like those traditional Republicans' answer on the election, but they might like his answer on the economy and on border security.

02:12:15.000 And for Governor Walz, it wasn't about being an attack dog.

02:12:18.000 It was trying to make an overture to that centrist voter in a battleground state and say, hey, with Vice President Harris as a teacher and a coach.

02:12:26.000 Ed, Gordon, quickly before we wrap, one of the big issues, though, was immigration so much so that they had to shut the mics off at one point.

02:12:31.000 Yeah, but I think the civility that we saw tonight may be a mistake by Democrats, quite frankly.

02:12:38.000 I talked at the outset of energizing this base I was just in Ohio, and many Democrats were livid about what's going on in Springfield.

02:12:47.000 I think Waltz missed an opportunity to really push the racial insensitivity there.

02:12:52.000 There was a sense of trying to be affable. 1.00

02:12:54.000 Shut the fuck up! 1.00

02:12:55.000 As John said. 1.00

02:12:56.000 Shut up! 1.00

02:12:57.000 And I think what we're going to see from this point on is this ability being laid aside. 1.00

02:13:02.000 Shut the fuck up, man. 1.00

02:13:04.000 Such fucking pussies, man. 1.00

02:13:06.000 Major, you... 1.00

02:13:07.000 Spent a lot of time thinking about Donald Trump.

02:13:09.000 How would he react to his number two? 0.98

02:13:11.000 It's racist!

02:13:12.000 So what Donald Trump will take away is the first third of the debate, where J.D. Vance made a very strong case that the Trump record on was the world on fire, yes or no?

02:13:22.000 No, it wasn't.

02:13:22.000 Was the economy better?

02:13:23.000 Yes, it was.

02:13:24.000 Trump will be very happy with that.

02:13:26.000 I think he will largely ignore and forget all the bipartisan appeals because they don't really fit within his orientation to politics.

02:13:32.000 Thank you, Major.

02:13:33.000 There is much more to talk about.

02:13:34.000 Our coverage will continue with instant reaction polls and fact checks.

02:13:38.000 That'll be on CBS News 24-7.

02:13:40.000 Oh, we hit hype train 9.

02:13:40.000 Guys, we almost hit 10.

02:13:43.000 Guys, come on, man.

02:13:44.000 We didn't hit 10.

02:13:46.000 Shout-out to Olsen Rojas, Subscriber Prime.

02:13:48.000 We reached level 10.

02:13:48.000 Oh, no, no, no.

02:13:49.000 Oh, we are on 10 right now.

02:13:50.000 Okay.

02:13:50.000 We reached...

02:13:51.000 Guys, we need to surpass 10, and I got y'all ninjas.

02:13:54.000 We still got the hype train going. 0.98

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02:14:03.000 Ally Bands gave out a sub to Amazing JC, you fucking brokie. 1.00

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02:14:20.000 Shout out to all you guys.

02:14:21.000 Alibands gifted a sub to Tampa Dude.

02:14:23.000 Shout out to you.

02:14:24.000 Alibands, just donate 50 subs, bro.

02:14:25.000 So we can give you a free thing to Cals Club, bro.

02:14:28.000 You're gifting a bunch of subs to all these dudes. 1.00

02:14:30.000 Just give out 50 subs, and we're going to give you a free pass to Cals Club. 1.00

02:14:36.000 Which, by the way, I'm losing money doing this shit. 0.93

02:14:38.000 Doing these 50 subs and giving you out free passes, but it's fine. 0.98

02:14:41.000 Because that's what it's about.

02:14:42.000 That's what it's about, being one with the people. 0.97

02:14:46.000 So, let's go ahead, get hype train 10, I'll do 50, someone else donate a 50, and let's get everybody, let's get it to a point where almost no one is watching fucking ads.

02:14:55.000 We're on the last hype train. 0.93

02:14:59.000 Let's complete level 10 and then we are fucking, we're in it. 0.99

02:15:01.000 We're cooking, baby. 0.99

02:15:03.000 Absolutely cooking.

02:15:05.000 Say, Jamdad gave 100 bits.

02:15:06.000 He said, let's go. 0.99

02:15:07.000 Let's fucking go. 0.99

02:15:08.000 We got three minutes to go. 1.00

02:15:10.000 Let's listen to these losers yap a bit more on what they want to say here. 0.99

02:15:17.000 And Republican Senator J.D. Vance. 0.98

02:15:19.000 I'm John Dickerson in Times Square at CBS News Election Headquarters.

02:15:23.000 And I'm Cecilia Vega.

02:15:24.000 And I am here.

02:15:25.000 We are here with the very best political team in the business.

02:15:27.000 We want to bring our panel back because we are joined by Chief Washington Correspondent Major Garrett Chief Election and Campaign Correspondent Robert Costa, Chief White House Correspondent Nancy Cordes, and CBS News contributor Ed Gordon.

02:15:40.000 Major, let's start with you.

02:15:42.000 I was struck by seeing Governor Walz pressed on his biographical embellishments.

02:15:48.000 No surprise that that came up, this question of where he was in college, in China, whether he was there, whether he really wasn't.

02:15:56.000 He sort of said, hey, I'm a knucklehead at times that I misspoke.

02:15:59.000 Is that going to fly?

02:16:01.000 It's flown in Minnesota, which was his point.

02:16:04.000 People who know me best heard me make this knuckleheaded remark and they elect to be to Congress or governor.

02:16:09.000 You mean he lied, bro?

02:16:09.000 Knucklehead?

02:16:10.000 They've gotten along with it.

02:16:11.000 Straight up lied.

02:16:13.000 And he didn't say this, but I think many Democrats, if they feel they need to clean this up in any way, will say Tim Walz will never lose an embellishment battle to Donald Trump.

02:16:22.000 Of course.

02:16:24.000 Nancy, I was struck by something J.D. Vance said, which was in the reproductive rights section.

02:16:30.000 He said on abortion after hearing about the various consequences of the Roe v.

02:16:36.000 Wade being overturned.

02:16:37.000 He then at one point said, there are a lot of people that should be alive.

02:16:42.000 I wonder if that... 0.99

02:16:44.000 I'll just pause this shit. 1.00

02:16:47.000 I'll just pause this shit. 1.00

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02:17:03.000 Like I said before, man. 1.00

02:17:06.000 I lose money doing this shit, but it's about the fucking people. 1.00

02:17:15.000 That's what it's about. 1.00

02:17:17.000 Alright? 1.00

02:17:18.000 Enjoy the subs, motherfuckers. 1.00

02:17:21.000 Let's go. 1.00

02:17:22.000 Everybody should be watching... 0.89

02:17:23.000 Damn near everybody should be watching this thing with no ads. 1.00

02:17:26.000 Let's fucking go, baby. 0.99

02:17:28.000 And let's go ahead and get another... 1.00

02:17:31.000 Well, yes, the consequences.

02:17:32.000 Let's get another hype train all the way up to level 20, guys.

02:17:35.000 Our record is 16. 0.98

02:17:37.000 Let's go ahead and get a hype train to level fucking 20. 0.96

02:17:40.000 Roe v. 0.98

02:17:41.000 Wade being overturned are not great, and then he tried to move on.

02:17:43.000 But isn't that the point?

02:17:45.000 Yes.

02:17:45.000 And I think that another challenge for him was that he tried to make the case.

02:17:49.000 He acknowledged that this is a difficult issue for his party.

02:17:52.000 But what he described as the way out of that difficult situation was to say, well, we need to be more pro-family as a party.

02:17:59.000 We need to...

02:18:00.000 Make it easier for women to have children so that they don't feel like they need to have an abortion. 0.90

02:18:05.000 The challenge is that more than half of the country believes that women should have the right to an abortion.

02:18:10.000 And I don't think it's clear that the people who believe that are going to be swayed by policies that are simply more pro-family.

02:18:20.000 Bob, what lasts here beyond the end of our conversation in terms of the man at the top of the ticket and the woman at the top of the other ticket?

02:18:29.000 For Senator Vance, he keeps his relationship with former President Donald Trump.

02:18:34.000 Didn't make any major mistakes that would draw Trump's ire.

02:18:37.000 I was tracking Trump's social media all night.

02:18:39.000 Positive about Senator Vance.

02:18:42.000 And for Governor Walz, he remains that person who Vice President Harris can count on to go to battleground states.

02:18:48.000 And elsewhere, and have a convincing personal story about being someone who is a teacher and a coach and comes from an everyday existence in Minnesota, ultimately became a House member and a governor, but came out of the education ranks and served his country in uniform.

02:19:04.000 We want to go now to Ed O'Keefe who is there at the debate site.

02:19:08.000 Ed, we just heard from our friend Bob Costa here saying that he's been monitoring President Trump and all signs a go positive reaction.

02:19:16.000 What are you hearing from the Harris-Waltz campaign right now after this?

02:19:20.000 Cecilia, we're in the spin room here, just down the hall from where the debate played out in the CBS Broadcast Center.

02:19:25.000 This used to be a milk processing plant, and it does feel a bit like cattle is being herded here behind us, as Senator Vance is now in here, as other surrogates to the two campaigns are now here making their case.

02:19:38.000 The Harris-Walls team suggests that they think he did rather well up against Senator Vance in a few different key moments.

02:19:47.000 I'm quoting scripture at that one point during the conversation about immigrants talking about Matthew 25 the idea that there should be empathy for all people.

02:19:56.000 They say that in their internal measurements of Of the actual debate that viewers that were watching liked that scene.

02:20:06.000 The other part that they thought worked pretty well and that voters watching with them or that they were tracking enjoyed was the criticism of the Trump tax cuts for wealthier Americans.

02:20:16.000 But they say, and Nancy was making this point earlier, that that final exchange regarding the future of democracy on January 6th was most damning.

02:20:24.000 They say that that exchange and Vance's refusal to say who exactly won the election, the fact that he dodged questions about it, is something that they will seize on in the coming days as a reminder to skeptics, to those concerned about Trump, that once again it appears they may be preparing to question the results of the election.

02:20:45.000 And stoke concerns about it.

02:20:47.000 You know, beyond that, there were, at the beginning at least, concerns among Democrats more broadly about how the governor sort of stumbled out of the gates a bit, especially uneasy on those questions about Mideast policy and what exactly the United States should do in terms of Israel's response to Iran.

02:21:05.000 Some conceding, perhaps, he, like Senator Vance, should be doing more interviews, perhaps, out on the trail.

02:21:10.000 In the coming days, remember, Governor Walton...

02:21:12.000 Yeah, because they're not talking to the media.

02:21:13.000 By the way, we just reached Hypertrain a lot.

02:21:16.000 Yeah, we completed 12.

02:21:18.000 Shout out to all you guys.

02:21:19.000 Also, just want to let you guys know, I am going to be switching on over on Fresh and Fit over to Twitch.

02:21:25.000 So guys, come on over to Twitch.

02:21:28.000 If you're watching on YouTube, okay?

02:21:31.000 There's the link.

02:21:32.000 I'm pinning it.

02:21:34.000 I'll pin it here.

02:21:37.000 Come on over, guys.

02:21:40.000 We're going to switch on over from YouTube.

02:21:43.000 To Twitch and Rumble and obviously Castle Club.

02:21:48.000 Right?

02:21:48.000 So come on over.

02:21:49.000 I'm going to end the YouTube stream here.

02:21:52.000 And we're going to keep cooking.

02:21:53.000 I'm also going to cover the Diddy case as well.

02:21:55.000 Guys, I'm going to cover the Diddy case as well.

02:21:57.000 You guys jump in now because we're gifting our subs so you can go ahead and get in now on Twitch.

02:22:02.000 You can get a sub and watch it with no ads.

02:22:04.000 So come on over right now, guys, because we're cooking.

02:22:06.000 We got a hype train going.

02:22:07.000 Might as well get you guys on over right now.

02:22:09.000 So you guys can go ahead and enjoy the stream.

02:22:09.000 Okay?

02:22:13.000 And not have to worry about that.

02:22:14.000 So come on over right now.

02:22:15.000 I dropped the link in there.

02:22:16.000 We're going crazy on Twitch. 0.99

02:22:17.000 For some of you losers that are complaining, F Twitch. 0.99

02:22:19.000 No worries, bro. 0.99

02:22:20.000 You don't have to come on over.

02:22:21.000 You can watch it on Rumble if you want.

02:22:23.000 Rumble.com slash fresherfit.

02:22:24.000 Or castleclub.tv.

02:22:26.000 However, it's a good time to come to Twitch because you might get a sub if you come on over.

02:22:29.000 And we're at Level Train.

02:22:31.000 It's 15 right now. 0.99

02:22:32.000 We're getting close to fucking 20. 0.98

02:22:34.000 If we get to 20, I'm going to gift another 50 subs. 1.00

02:22:36.000 Let's fucking go. 0.99

02:22:37.000 I will do it. 1.00

02:22:39.000 We're cooking.

02:22:40.000 Come on over, guys.

02:22:41.000 Come on over.

02:22:42.000 I'm going to end the YouTube stream right now.

02:22:44.000 YouTube stream is going down in 3, 2, 1.

02:22:49.000 Come on over, guys.

02:22:50.000 Switch.tv slash Fresh To Fit Podcast.

02:22:52.000 I'm going to spam the link in here for y'all.

02:22:55.000 YouTube ain't paying us, so we ain't staying here.

02:22:57.000 It is what it is.

02:22:57.000 Okay?

02:22:59.000 Dudes want to demonetize us? 1.00

02:23:01.000 It is what it is.

02:23:02.000 We're coming over.

02:23:04.000 Switch on over to Twitch right now, guys.

02:23:06.000 Twitch.tv slash Fresh Effect.

02:23:08.000 Come on over.

02:23:09.000 Fresh Effect Podcast.

02:23:10.000 Twitch.tv slash Fresh Effect Podcast.

02:23:12.000 We're going on over now.

02:23:16.000 Alright, boom.

02:23:17.000 We are here.

02:23:20.000 So, shout out to all you guys.

02:23:22.000 We're literally at Hype Train Level 16. 0.99

02:23:24.000 We're about to break the fucking record. 0.94

02:23:25.000 Which also, by the way, I want to tell you guys thank you because you guys literally got us to... 0.97

02:23:30.000 We crossed our goal of 6,000 subs. 0.91

02:23:35.000 Let's fucking go. 0.99

02:23:37.000 Now, we're going to keep cooking. 0.99

02:23:39.000 We got 1,100, 1,200 of you guys watching right now on Twitch.

02:23:42.000 I'm going to go ahead and we're going to up it because...

02:23:47.000 Now we're going to keep clicking.

02:23:49.000 We're going to keep going.

02:23:51.000 Because at the end of the day, we are going to take over Twitch.

02:23:55.000 I wasn't kidding around when I said this.

02:23:57.000 The new goal is $6,500.

02:23:59.000 Alright?

02:24:01.000 So...

02:24:02.000 That is the new goal now.

02:24:05.000 So come on over my ninjas. 0.98

02:24:10.000 And um...

02:24:14.000 Oh, we just shattered the record.

02:24:18.000 Let's go.

02:24:19.000 We beat the record.

02:24:21.000 We're at 84% on level 16.

02:24:24.000 The hype train is real.

02:24:26.000 We need to keep cooking, guys.

02:24:27.000 If you're watching on Castle Club, guys, come on over.

02:24:32.000 Let's break this thing. 0.96

02:24:33.000 Let's take this thing to fucking hype train level 20. 0.97

02:24:38.000 Matter of fact, what is it? 0.97

02:24:39.000 It's about 11pm at night?

02:24:41.000 We're on Twitch late night? 0.98

02:24:42.000 Are we gonna have to play some fucking classic rock right now? 0.98

02:24:46.000 To let y'all need to just know what time it is? 0.98

02:24:48.000 We might have to do that.

02:24:49.000 We're off YouTube too. 0.95

02:24:51.000 So we don't gotta worry about no copyright bullshit.

02:24:53.000 Guys, I need y'all to come on over right now. 0.63

02:24:56.000 Because it's a late night and we're on the train, my friends.

02:24:59.000 We are on the train.

02:25:04.000 Setting a new record. 1.00

02:25:06.000 Let's fucking push this shit, man. 1.00

02:25:08.000 Olipun! 1.00

02:25:12.000 And we got...

02:25:16.000 Shout out to...

02:25:18.000 We just hit 17.

02:25:19.000 Let's go.

02:25:21.000 We're breaking all the records tonight, guys.

02:25:23.000 We're breaking all the records.

02:25:25.000 We're gonna cover Diddy after this.

02:25:27.000 We're gonna cover Diddy after this.

02:25:28.000 The train don't stop.

02:25:29.000 Don't do one.

02:25:31.000 Everybody wants to say that I'm a tetherer. 0.96

02:25:36.000 Myron, you're not black. 0.99

02:25:37.000 Maybe I'm not! 0.84

02:25:38.000 Oh well!

02:25:40.000 Hype Train 20, let's go baby!

02:25:55.000 And now we're gonna take this thing and we're gonna cover the Diddy case as well. 0.98

02:26:07.000 Let's fucking go! 0.96

02:26:07.000 So there's my place on this train, guys. 0.96

02:26:09.000 Don't forget I'm doing it.

02:26:14.000 And the wounds I'm healing.

02:26:19.000 Life's a bit of a steam.

02:26:22.000 I'm going off the rails on a crazy train.

02:26:39.000 Let's go.

02:26:41.000 So we got...

02:26:44.000 I've listened to creatures.

02:26:50.000 I've listened to...

02:26:52.000 We got, uh, let's see here.

02:26:53.000 Message Effect, uh, 20 bits.

02:26:55.000 Jam Dat, 100 bits. 0.98

02:26:57.000 Arc Lightning gave out 20 fucking subs. 0.99

02:26:59.000 Shout out to you, sir. 0.99

02:27:01.000 Um, I Show Courage gave out five community subs.

02:27:03.000 Misogony gave out a community sub.

02:27:05.000 Uh, we got Coladopus gave out five community subs.

02:27:09.000 Jam Dat cheered 100 bits. 0.99

02:27:10.000 Heck, uh, cheered 1,000 fucking bits. 1.00

02:27:12.000 Shout out to you. 1.00

02:27:14.000 LVL Dano, subscribe with Prime.

02:27:15.000 Guys, Amazon is absolutely, like, you already have it, so go ahead and use Amazon Prime. 0.99

02:27:20.000 Jeff Bezos is going to make money anyway, so go ahead and fucking steal from him. 0.94

02:27:23.000 You're already paying for the Amazon Prime. 1.00

02:27:25.000 Use it for fucking Twitch. 0.99

02:27:27.000 All right? 0.99

02:27:27.000 No ads. 0.99

02:27:28.000 KingValrek, cheered 200 bits.

02:27:29.000 WFNF, shout out to you.

02:27:30.000 Snatchems gave out five community subs.

02:27:32.000 iShowCourage gave out two community gifts. 0.98

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02:27:39.000 Nate Dabb gave out five community subs.

02:27:42.000 We're at level 18, by the way, guys.

02:27:43.000 Only two more to go. 0.99

02:27:44.000 Let's fucking go. 0.99

02:27:45.000 Let's hit this thing level 20. 0.99

02:27:46.000 Then we're going to get back into the fucking breakdown of this debate, epic debate. 0.99

02:27:50.000 And then we're also going to go ahead and cover the fucking Diddy Case. 0.98

02:27:56.000 Because we got some new developments on that as well. 0.94

02:27:58.000 Jao Lanchier, 200 bits.

02:28:00.000 I Sure Courage gifted a sub to KSID91. The Brokey, Zachary Subscriber Prime, smart guy.

02:28:04.000 I Sure Courage gave a sub to DatKing6, also a Brokey. 1.00

02:28:07.000 Ali Banz gifted out 50 community subs six minutes ago. 0.99

02:28:10.000 Holy shit! 0.99

02:28:12.000 Ali Banz! 1.00

02:28:13.000 You actually fucking did it. 1.00

02:28:14.000 I see you. 0.99

02:28:15.000 I'm going to give you another Donna Marco for that one. 1.00

02:28:18.000 You actually fucking did it. 0.99

02:28:19.000 I'm going to whisper to you, my friend. 1.00

02:28:21.000 Pause.

02:28:21.000 Let me do that real quick.

02:28:24.000 Oh shit, Nicholas gave out... 0.99

02:28:26.000 Nicholas gave out a bunch of subs too. 1.00

02:28:29.000 Shout out to you, man.

02:28:30.000 Where's Ally Bands?

02:28:31.000 I got a...

02:28:32.000 Wait, how many did he do?

02:28:34.000 Holy.

02:28:37.000 See, now I got a...

02:28:39.000 He gave out...

02:28:40.000 Monotone gave out five community subs.

02:28:41.000 Shout out to you, Monotone.

02:28:43.000 Ally Bands, I'm going to find you in here.

02:28:45.000 If you could chat real quick so I could find your name.

02:28:47.000 Send you a gift.

02:28:49.000 By the way, guys, we're level 18. 0.98

02:28:53.000 We gotta keep fucking jamming out here. 0.97

02:28:54.000 here. 0.99

02:28:55.000 What am I doing?

02:28:56.000 We got a...

02:29:04.000 ArcLightning gave 20 subs three minutes ago.

02:29:06.000 Shout out to you.

02:29:08.000 Chared a thousand bits.

02:29:09.000 Shout out to you.

02:29:10.000 Commander Chared 2,200 bits.

02:29:10.000 Mr.

02:29:12.000 Let's fucking go. 1.00

02:29:13.000 We cooking, baby. 1.00

02:29:14.000 We cooking.

02:29:15.000 We are cooking, chat.

02:29:17.000 They can't stop us.

02:29:19.000 One of the most censored and banned podcasts on the internet.

02:29:23.000 We are. 0.99

02:29:25.000 But we're back in the fucking... 0.99

02:29:26.000 We're back in the house. 0.99

02:29:29.000 We're back on Twitch.

02:29:32.000 All these haters made videos when we got suspended on Twitch.

02:29:36.000 Oh, fresh if it got bad. 1.00

02:29:38.000 You know, these fucking losers. 1.00

02:29:41.000 Because they're fucking jealous, by the way. 1.00

02:29:45.000 And we're back in the house. 0.99

02:29:46.000 They literally couldn't wait to make a video.

02:29:48.000 And we got unbanned within like two days, by the way.

02:29:51.000 And we came back.

02:29:52.000 20 seconds to go, by the way, guys.

02:29:53.000 We're at level 18.

02:29:55.000 20 seconds to go.

02:29:56.000 90%. 1.00

02:29:57.000 Let's fucking take this shit all the way. 1.00

02:30:00.000 Level 20. 1.00

02:30:01.000 Let's go.

02:30:02.000 10 seconds to go.

02:30:04.000 10 seconds to go. 1.00

02:30:05.000 Let's get this shit to 19. 0.99

02:30:07.000 Six, seven seconds. 1.00

02:30:08.000 Five seconds.

02:30:09.000 Let's go, guys.

02:30:11.000 For 98%. 0.99

02:30:12.000 Alright, we fucking did it. 0.99

02:30:13.000 Let's go. 1.00

02:30:16.000 Let's fucking go. 0.99

02:30:17.000 Arc Lightning gave about 20 subs. 0.99

02:30:18.000 Shout out to you guys.

02:30:20.000 Cooking.

02:30:21.000 And just so you guys know, everyone that gives 50 subs, you get a free year of Castle Club.

02:30:27.000 Just so y'all know.

02:30:28.000 You get 50 subs out.

02:30:30.000 We're at level 19.

02:30:32.000 Man.

02:30:33.000 We gotta...

02:30:34.000 Man, we cooking right now.

02:30:37.000 You guys know what time it is.

02:30:38.000 I'm about to get another energy drink because we're going to be going all the way.

02:30:41.000 We're going to be going all the way.

02:30:44.000 We got more stuff to cover.

02:30:46.000 The show goes on.

02:30:48.000 The show goes on, my friends, okay? 0.98

02:30:51.000 I'm not fucking leaving! 0.96

02:30:53.000 The show goes on! 0.99

02:30:57.000 This is my home! 1.00

02:30:58.000 They're gonna need a fucking wrecking ball to take me out of here. 1.00

02:31:03.000 We'll be right back. 0.99

02:31:15.000 Yeah, King Church, 100 bits.

02:31:20.000 iShell Careers gave out 250 subs.

02:31:22.000 Odin Gaming, resubscribered by him.

02:31:24.000 Shout out to you.

02:31:25.000 He's been subscribed for two months.

02:31:26.000 Definitely.

02:31:28.000 Heck1022.

02:31:29.000 Thousand bits, shout out to you bro.

02:31:32.000 DatKing6, Jam Dat.

02:31:33.000 Once we hit 20, we're gonna get back to the broadcasting.

02:31:37.000 We're at level 19. 0.99

02:31:38.000 Let's fucking go, man. 0.99

02:31:39.000 We are cooking. 1.00

02:31:41.000 We're taking over Twitch.

02:31:43.000 I told y'all we are going to take over Twitch.

02:31:49.000 Now, we're almost at 6,500. 0.99

02:31:50.000 Let's fucking go, baby. 0.99

02:31:56.000 We're playing classic rock. 1.00

02:31:57.000 Late at night.

02:31:58.000 Here on the night train, my friends.

02:32:05.000 We just said 20?

02:32:09.000 Where we at?

02:32:10.000 We just completed 19.

02:32:17.000 Let's complete 20! 1.00

02:32:19.000 And we fuck out this. 0.99

02:32:20.000 We're already 20% of the way. 0.99

02:32:22.000 I'm about to get another energy. 0.99

02:32:24.000 Let's fuck over it. 1.00

02:32:30.000 I'm on the night train. 1.00

02:32:32.000 Follow the sun.

02:32:33.000 I'm on the night train.

02:32:35.000 Fill my car.

02:32:37.000 I'm on the night train. 0.75

02:32:39.000 Ready to crash and burn.

02:32:41.000 I never learned.

02:32:43.000 I'm on the night train.

02:32:45.000 I love that stuff I'm on the night train I'm on the night train For all the FBAs, I got my watermelon monster here, right? 0.99

02:32:55.000 These niggas don't pay me, but I just want to piss you guys off because you guys are so mad that I'm a fucking tether. 1.00

02:32:59.000 So look, I got some watermelon monster. 0.99

02:33:02.000 Matter of fact, I got a brush too.

02:33:04.000 Hey, but I'm not black though.

02:33:06.000 Remember, I'm not black. 0.99

02:33:09.000 As I brush my waves and drink my watermelon fucking monster, I'm not black though, right? 1.00

02:33:17.000 Even though I'm spinning like a tsunami right now, Let's fucking cook. 1.00

02:33:22.000 We're gonna play some classic rock because I'm not black. 1.00

02:33:24.000 Who gives a fuck though? 0.99

02:33:25.000 It's my favorite part. 1.00

02:33:39.000 It's my favorite part.

02:33:42.000 We're surpassing level 20.

02:33:44.000 Let's go, guys. 0.95

02:33:44.000 right fucking now flying like an animal down the morgo like a space break one more time today I'm on the night train and I'm looking for a song I'm on the night train clip this for the FBA I'm on the night train and I'm running a crash and burn night train fall on slow 0.95

02:34:12.000 I'm on the night train I can never get it right in the night train I guess I I guess I guess I can love me I'm on the night train I love me on the night train right in the night train 0.98

02:34:42.000 never never never never never never never ever minutes to go.

02:34:53.000 We got this. 0.99

02:34:54.000 Let's fucking go. 1.00

02:34:58.000 We cooking at night, boyos. 1.00

02:35:00.000 Myron's not black.

02:35:07.000 Oh well. 1.00

02:35:09.000 Fuckin' mad. 1.00

02:35:10.000 Let's go! 0.99

02:35:11.000 Since I was born, they couldn't hold me down I've ever missed a kid, another burned out town I never played by the rules and I never really cared My nasty reputation takes me everywhere What neither can see, it's not all

02:35:39.000 it means 50% of the way there, guys. 0.99

02:35:43.000 Let's fucking go! 0.96

02:35:44.000 Tell me the others have stood where it's then We are the young hearts They call us problems, child We spend our nights, my child We walk an endless mile We are the UConn Wild We stand and we won't fall We're one and one's for all The match is on the wall We are the UConn Wild 0.98

02:36:08.000 A boss screaming in my ear About who I'm supposed to be We're halfway there, guys.

02:36:18.000 We're halfway there.

02:36:20.000 On 20, we got 39 seconds to go.

02:36:23.000 Who's going to beat Kobe and get us to 100?

02:36:26.000 Slugs, just shout out to Slugs. 1.00

02:36:29.000 30 seconds to go.

02:36:31.000 30 seconds to go.

02:36:37.000 20 seconds to go.

02:36:40.000 Let's go, guys!

02:36:43.000 We gotta surpass 20!

02:36:45.000 We gotta surpass 20!

02:36:47.000 We gotta surpass it!

02:36:49.000 10 seconds! 0.99

02:36:51.000 Oh, let's fucking go! 0.99

02:36:58.000 We'll give it a shot! 0.99

02:37:05.000 Oh, we're halfway there!

02:37:13.000 Take my hand!

02:37:14.000 We'll make it, I swear!

02:37:17.000 Oh! 0.60

02:37:18.000 Living on a prayer!

02:37:21.000 We're cooking!

02:37:22.000 Chad! 0.99

02:37:23.000 Let's fucking go! 0.99

02:37:24.000 All right, we hit a fucking new record! 1.00

02:37:30.000 Well, we got some work to do, gentlemen. 0.99

02:37:33.000 We had some fun playing some classic rock while brushing our waves and drinking watermelon monsters.

02:37:42.000 Pissed the FBAs off a little bit, right?

02:37:46.000 And we had a new record.

02:37:47.000 We literally hit level 20.

02:37:49.000 I kept my word.

02:37:50.000 Gave y'all another 50 subs.

02:37:52.000 Let me shout out these people.

02:37:53.000 They're going to get back to the cooking on the debate.

02:37:56.000 Famous cheered 100 bits.

02:37:57.000 Shout out to you.

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02:38:08.000 Jammed that. 0.78

02:38:09.000 Said, let's get it.

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02:38:37.000 Let's see here.

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02:38:39.000 Smart.

02:38:40.000 Um, Tacos and Tequila gave out 50 committee subs.

02:38:43.000 Shout out to you, bro.

02:38:45.000 Where is this guy?

02:38:49.000 Um, Tacos and Tequilas.

02:38:52.000 Shout out to you.

02:38:54.000 I am going to whisper to you.

02:38:56.000 Pause.

02:38:57.000 If it'll let me do it.

02:39:00.000 Wait, did he?

02:39:02.000 Oh, did he just gift a bunch more?

02:39:04.000 Holy, shout out to you, bro.

02:39:06.000 Um...

02:39:10.000 Let's see here.

02:39:11.000 I'm gonna find you and give you a thing.

02:39:13.000 Magic Kills.

02:39:14.000 Gave out a community sub.

02:39:15.000 On-screen celebration.

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02:39:21.000 Okay, I think we're caught up.

02:39:22.000 Heck 1022.

02:39:23.000 Arc Lightning.

02:39:24.000 Dot King.

02:39:25.000 Jam Dat.

02:39:26.000 Zolan. 1.00

02:39:26.000 Shout out to all you fucking guys, bro. 1.00

02:39:28.000 All you ninjas. 1.00

02:39:29.000 Appreciate it greatly.

02:39:30.000 Part of the Fresher Fist squad.

02:39:32.000 You know what I mean?

02:39:33.000 Next time we'll hype this thing up.

02:39:35.000 Next goal is hype train level 30.

02:39:38.000 Is the next goal.

02:39:39.000 Hype Train Level 30.

02:39:41.000 We got over a thousand of you guys watching.

02:39:42.000 Happy to have you guys here.

02:39:44.000 So, let's get back to the breakdown.

02:39:47.000 And, uh...

02:39:48.000 Yeah.

02:39:52.000 Waltz is headed to central Pennsylvania to campaign.

02:39:55.000 He was supposed to do that with Vice President Harris, who instead will be staying back in Washington and attending to official duties in the coming days.

02:40:02.000 She'll be visiting storm damage in Georgia, and then we anticipate over the weekend heading to North Carolina.

02:40:07.000 So they will not be seen together on the trail as we thought they might, so that she can attend to official duties and he'll continue campaigning in that key state of Pennsylvania, one where, of course, both he and Vance were hoping to win over support tonight.

02:40:22.000 Thank you, Ed.

02:40:22.000 Caitlin Huey-Burns is also at the CBS News Broadcast Center.

02:40:26.000 Caitlin, what are you hearing from the Trump-Vance camp?

02:40:28.000 Well, the Trump campaign is essentially doing a victory lap.

02:40:32.000 Quite literally, they were eager to come into the spin room and talk to reporters, senior advisors, campaign manager, and Donald Trump Jr., who, of course, is very close with J.D. Vance and was influential in that decision to name him as VP. But notably...

02:40:49.000 Notably, I was talking to a campaign source who was heavily involved in this preparation, and they noted that there was, in the prep, a kind of conscious effort to focus on J.D. Vance's personal side, knowing that this was going to be An introduction of sorts to millions of Americans watching.

02:41:10.000 And if you think about it, going back to when J.D. Vance was announced as the running mate, remember, he was told 20 minutes before this was announced that he would be the running mate.

02:41:21.000 Then they had the convention, and the focus was very much on the top of the ticket and Donald Trump.

02:41:27.000 And then came these interviews that were discovered that J.D. Vance had done, these controversial statements that he had made in podcast interviews and kind of other forms.

02:41:38.000 They see this as a kind of a reset, but mostly to focus personal stories on the economy, which they believe is a deciding factor in this election.

02:41:48.000 All right, Caitlin, thank you so much.

02:41:50.000 Senator Vance and Governor Walz made many claims tonight.

02:41:53.000 Major Garrett has been fact-checking them on the fly and in real time.

02:41:57.000 Major, you're going to start with Opio.

02:41:58.000 All right, let's see with some of these fact-checks here.

02:42:00.000 By the way, guys, I'm going to go ahead and end the Xtreme on the Fresher Fit account.

02:42:05.000 We are live on my main account, MyronGainesX, Castle Club, Rumble, and Twitch.

02:42:10.000 We're going to make the switch on over from Rumble, though, to Twitch soon.

02:42:13.000 So come on over, guys.

02:42:15.000 If you're watching on X on the Fresher Fit account, Switch.tv slash Fresh Fit Podcast.

02:42:19.000 Come on over, guys.

02:42:22.000 That's right.

02:42:22.000 And I just want to let everyone know, the CBS News Confirmed team has done an entire fact check of the entire debate.

02:42:28.000 You can find those fact checks on social media, CBS News, or on our website, CBS News Confirmed team.

02:42:35.000 I will say this.

02:42:36.000 They were a lot better at moderating this than last time.

02:42:40.000 Then the other organization.

02:42:42.000 Because they all touch on immigration, which was heavily debated in this process tonight, and the issues all run through, one way or another, the conversation, national and otherwise, about immigration.

02:42:53.000 Let's start with the first one, dealing with opioid deaths.

02:42:56.000 It came up in the context of immigration.

02:42:59.000 The claim, this was from Governor Walz.

02:43:02.000 Opioid crisis, the good news, is in the last 12 months, the nation saw the largest decrease in opioid deaths in our nation's history, 30% decrease in Ohio.

02:43:11.000 The CBS News confirmed team rates that partially true, and here's why.

02:43:15.000 Our country's only been counting opioid deaths officially since 2015.

02:43:19.000 And in 2024, our nation recorded, sadly, more than 77,000 opioid deaths.

02:43:25.000 That was down 7% from the year before.

02:43:28.000 About 3,000 deaths in 2024, slightly larger than that in Ohio.

02:43:32.000 That was not a 30% decrease.

02:43:34.000 That was an 18% decrease.

02:43:36.000 That's why the CBS News Confirm team rates that assertion as partially true.

02:43:40.000 Let's go to the next one.

02:43:42.000 Sounds very political.

02:43:43.000 ...has been chewed over extensively in the campaign.

02:43:46.000 J.D. Vance, Republican from Ohio, said, Vice President Harris became the appointed border czar.

02:43:52.000 This could be a semantic issue for some people.

02:43:54.000 We rate it.

02:43:55.000 The CBS News confirmed team is false.

02:43:58.000 And here is why.

02:43:59.000 That was never Kamala Harris's title.

02:44:02.000 That was never her designated role.

02:44:04.000 Immigration policy flowed through the President and the Secretary of Homeland Security, Alejandro Mayorkas.

02:44:11.000 What Kamala Harris was appointed to do, or asked to do, was look at the root causes of immigration in the so-called Northern Triangle countries, Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala.

02:44:20.000 That's why we rate that as false.

02:44:23.000 Let's go to our next one.

02:44:24.000 This is something that J.D. Vance said, again in the context of immigration, housing that is totally unaffordable because we have brought millions of illegal immigrants to compete with Americans for scarce homes. 0.99

02:44:35.000 CBS News confirmed team rates that is partially true.

02:44:38.000 Clearly.

02:44:39.000 And Senator Vance made reference to a Federal Reserve study that says...

02:44:43.000 Larger migration to America in the Biden administration is one factor in housing stock shortage.

02:44:50.000 But that was a long-running issue dating back to the Great Recession.

02:44:54.000 Americans have been creating more new home stock at a lower rate than at any time since 1960.

02:45:00.000 It is a complex problem.

02:45:01.000 That's why the CBS News confirmed team rates that assertion from Senator Vance.

02:45:05.000 Also, with the housing thing...

02:45:07.000 So let me break this down.

02:45:07.000 As you guys know, I own 21 real estate properties.

02:45:11.000 I'm heavily into real estate.

02:45:12.000 I control something around maybe...

02:45:15.000 I think my portfolio gross worth is maybe around $11 million or so.

02:45:21.000 $10 million to $11 million is what I control.

02:45:23.000 Right?

02:45:24.000 Of real estate.

02:45:26.000 And then for the haters that say, Myra, well, you got debt on all that.

02:45:28.000 No, I have an equity of around $6 million. 1.00

02:45:30.000 So fuck you, haters. 1.00

02:45:31.000 Anyway, with that said... 1.00

02:45:34.000 And I say that to kind of preface because some of you guys might not know that I'm a real estate investor, and this is one of the main things that I do.

02:45:39.000 We do have a shortage of about four to five million homes in the United States, but that's single-family homes.

02:45:45.000 So for them to be able to build, you know, the four million homes, or as Kamala Harris said, three million homes, it's almost impossible.

02:45:53.000 And the reason why it's going to be extremely difficult to do is because contractors that build homes are more prioritized, guys, with doing commercial Real estate.

02:46:01.000 What do I mean by commercial real estate?

02:46:02.000 They want to do big apartment complexes because when you do big apartment complexes, you make more money.

02:46:07.000 Building single-family homes isn't profitable, unfortunately, guys, because the cost of material has went up.

02:46:13.000 After the Ukraine-Russia war, the price of lumber and the price of materials went up significantly.

02:46:18.000 So building a home...

02:46:20.000 In the United States nowadays, single-family homes, for that matter, is extremely cumbersome, expensive, and a lot of contractors simply don't want to do it.

02:46:28.000 So with that said, it's important to note that this thing that they're talking about, like building more homes, it's not really feasible the way that they're talking about it.

02:46:36.000 It just isn't.

02:46:38.000 This has been a problem for a very long time.

02:46:40.000 It's going to take us probably around five to ten years to fix this housing situation that we have.

02:46:45.000 But what they're proposing to fix it, it's probably not going to work either on the Democrat or Republican side.

02:46:51.000 But again, you're not going to know this unless you're a real estate investor, especially on the residential side.

02:46:56.000 We're talking about residential, not commercial.

02:47:00.000 Also, it's important to know that who's buying the single-family homes that's taking away from the families? 1.00

02:47:05.000 It's fucking BlackRock, Larry Fink, that motherfucker, and all those guys, them boys. 0.99

02:47:11.000 They're the ones that are buying up all the single-family homes all across the country. 1.00

02:47:15.000 All right?

02:47:17.000 So until we reel that in and then give incentives for builders to build single family homes, we're not going to fix the problem.

02:47:24.000 So you got to tackle this at the BlackRock level, not letting them buy up a bunch of single family homes.

02:47:29.000 You got to put some type of legislation in place to keep them from buying the single family homes and taking them away from these single families, from these families.

02:47:36.000 Then you also got to go ahead and handle the issue with Contractors not wanting to build these single family homes.

02:47:43.000 You need to find a way to incentivize them to do it.

02:47:45.000 Maybe it could be tax breaks, whatever it is. 0.94

02:47:47.000 But those are two big problems in the housing market that no one ever fucking talks about. 0.92

02:47:52.000 And to be honest, I don't blame them. 0.94

02:47:53.000 You're not going to know this unless you're a real estate investor.

02:47:55.000 And not only do you have to be a real estate investor, you have to be a real estate investor in the residential market.

02:48:01.000 Okay, this isn't a commercial real estate problem.

02:48:02.000 This is a residential real estate problem.

02:48:06.000 Let's keep cooking.

02:48:07.000 Give me one in the chat if that makes sense for you guys.

02:48:08.000 Give me one in the chat.

02:48:10.000 That makes sense.

02:48:11.000 The housing issue.

02:48:13.000 John and Cecilia, back to you.

02:48:15.000 Thank you so much, Major.

02:48:16.000 Republican Senator Tom Cotton joins us.

02:48:18.000 He serves on the Judiciary, Intelligence and Armed Services Committee.

02:48:22.000 Senator Cotton, good evening.

02:48:23.000 Good to have you with us again.

02:48:25.000 I'd like to ask you a question that your senator colleague had trouble with.

02:48:29.000 Did Donald Trump lose the last election?

02:48:33.000 Look, obviously Joe Biden is the president.

02:48:35.000 He's in the White House.

02:48:36.000 That's why everything has gone to hell on a handbasket for the last four years.

02:48:39.000 But as J.D. said tonight, he's focused...

02:48:42.000 He deflected that question perfectly.

02:48:45.000 On the future.

02:48:46.000 Can't answer it.

02:48:46.000 And the future...

02:48:47.000 No one wants to answer this fucking question on, did Trump lose the election? 0.99

02:48:51.000 That Donald Trump can restore to America. 0.99

02:48:54.000 For four years, we had stable prices, rising wages, a secure border, and a peaceful, stable world.

02:49:02.000 And over the last four years, because Joe Biden has been president and Kamala Harris has been his vice president, we've had everything going to hell in a handbasket.

02:49:09.000 Donald Trump is going to bring back the good times we had.

02:49:12.000 Kamala Harris will extend four years of Joe Biden's presidency.

02:49:16.000 I realize that this is about something that's in the past, Senator, but it is something that the Republican nominee for president brings up a lot.

02:49:23.000 And the reason I think it's more than just something that can be dismissed in the past is when you talk to national security officials about domestic violence, they say one of the things that stokes that violence is the idea that the last election was fraudulent and that Donald Trump was the rightful victor.

02:49:40.000 And so this isn't something about the past.

02:49:42.000 It is a Kindling of what, according to national security experts, a present threat of violence.

02:49:51.000 And that's why this is not something that's in the past.

02:49:53.000 Why isn't it easy to just say he lost and now we hope he wins?

02:49:57.000 Well, first off, John, I don't know who these experts are you're talking about.

02:50:00.000 Tim Walts tonight said, just like Kamala Harris has said for years, she wants to defer to the so-called experts. 0.91

02:50:05.000 These are the experts maybe that told us we should shut down schools or put kids in masks.

02:50:10.000 These are the same experts that told us that Israel should be restrained every time it gets attacked, as opposed to letting Israel win. 0.80

02:50:17.000 So I don't know who the so-called experts you're referring to here.

02:50:20.000 But I can tell you, the real threat of violence that we see in America today is rampant crime in our streets.

02:50:28.000 Or Kamala Harris and Joe Biden having 28,000 murderers and rapists who are illegal aliens released into our communities.

02:50:36.000 Or for that matter, turning the other way when our streets are burning as they were during the BLM riots in 2020. 0.73

02:50:43.000 Tim Walts being caught flat-footed.

02:50:45.000 Kamala Harris trying to bail out rioters and looters and arsonists.

02:50:50.000 Those are the things that are the real threat of violence in this country today.

02:50:55.000 I'm going to show you guys something really cool about this election on Twitter, but let's let them talk for a bit.

02:51:01.000 I'll show you guys.

02:51:02.000 Cecilia Vega here.

02:51:03.000 One question for you before we let you go on the issue of reproductive rights, which created a healthy exchange on that debate stage.

02:51:09.000 We heard Senator Vance tonight say that many Americans have lost faith in your own party and Republicans when it comes to reproductive rights.

02:51:17.000 He said, quote, we've got to do so much better a job at earning Americans trust back.

02:51:22.000 Do you agree with that?

02:51:24.000 Well, I thought J.D. gave a very good answer on the way American democracy works.

02:51:29.000 He said he has his personal views, but the people of Ohio disagreed with him, just like the people of California are going to have a different view than the people of Alabama or Ohio.

02:51:38.000 I think he respects the American people.

02:51:41.000 He will level with them in a way that Tim Waltz did not tonight.

02:51:44.000 Tim Waltz signed a law that would allow a child born in a botched abortion to die on the table, to be denied life-saving rights.

02:51:53.000 And that's a law that he didn't want to go into detail about when questioned by J.D. Vance.

02:51:59.000 Subscribe for a month at Tier 1.

02:51:59.000 Shout out to Vanderbilt.

02:52:01.000 Shout out to Magnum for cheering 100 Bits.

02:52:03.000 I Show Courage gifted a month to Melatonin.

02:52:05.000 I appreciate that.

02:52:06.000 Which, by the way, guys, if you're a brokie, type in, I'm a brokie.

02:52:10.000 And they got you right now in the chat.

02:52:11.000 We got a bunch of real-time supporters in there.

02:52:14.000 So shout out to all you guys that are donating subs to the people.

02:52:16.000 Also, I got a thread that I want to show you guys about the 2020 election.

02:52:20.000 Okay?

02:52:21.000 So, we got a cook. 0.98

02:52:23.000 Tim Walz refused to answer a question whether he thinks any restrictions at all should be imposed on abortion in the ninth month of a pregnancy.

02:52:32.000 J.D. Vance was leveling with the American people, not only about where he stands, but about how democracy works.

02:52:38.000 He and President Trump respect the diversity of opinion on this question and other questions in our democracy.

02:52:43.000 It's Tim Walz and Kamala Harris that wants a radical, one-size-fits-all solution for the country.

02:52:50.000 Senator Cotton of Arkansas.

02:52:53.000 Excuse me.

02:52:53.000 Thank you so much, Senator.

02:52:55.000 Obviously, the governor has a very different view of that law, and he said so repeatedly on the debate stage.

02:53:01.000 Coming up, we'll check back in with a group of Michigan voters to find out if any minds were changed.

02:53:07.000 Interesting.

02:53:07.000 Okay.

02:53:09.000 Let's fast forward this a bit.

02:53:13.000 America decides.

02:53:14.000 They were expecting for- And guys, when we cover the Diddy stuff, I'm gonna switch on over completely to Rumble, I mean, uh, Twitch.

02:53:21.000 And Castle Club.

02:53:23.000 Let's see with these people from Michigan.

02:53:25.000 For some of you guys that are unaware, Michigan is a battleground state, so this is obviously very important.

02:53:30.000 Let's see what they think.

02:53:32.000 I think Michigan is typically blue, though, if I'm not mistaken.

02:53:35.000 Let me look here.

02:53:38.000 Let's see.

02:53:43.000 Michigan governor.

02:53:46.000 Let's see.

02:53:46.000 She is a Democrat.

02:53:50.000 Okay.

02:53:50.000 So, yeah.

02:53:51.000 Gritchett and lifelong Michigan nurse.

02:53:52.000 She's a lawyer. 0.86

02:53:53.000 So, yeah.

02:53:54.000 That makes sense. 1.00

02:53:56.000 No wonder it's a fucking dump. 0.98

02:53:58.000 ...for there to possibly be more jabs thrown, but as I'm asking you guys again, because we were able to talk before we went to the program, raise your hand if you feel like Senator J.D. Vance won this debate. 0.99

02:54:13.000 Okay.

02:54:14.000 And then two people feel like Governor Walz won the debate.

02:54:19.000 So you said that you felt like J.D. Vance articulated his arguments the best.

02:54:24.000 Bill, talk to us a little bit about that.

02:54:27.000 Yeah, he was a very smooth talker.

02:54:29.000 Very smooth talker.

02:54:30.000 Yes, he was.

02:54:31.000 Eric, what about you?

02:54:32.000 I know you said...

02:54:33.000 Yeah, I also agree that J.D. Vance, I think, was a smooth talker.

02:54:37.000 The thing that I appreciated about Governor Walz is that I felt like he did answer more of the questions, like with actually, with data points and like with evidence, so I appreciated that perspective.

02:54:47.000 All of you here, when we were talking offline, said that immigration is still a big topic for you.

02:54:54.000 And you all also seem to agree based on the conversations that you heard when you heard Senator Vance talking about it as well as Governor Walz.

02:55:04.000 Start with you, Max, about what stood out with the policies that were proposed and why you feel so strongly about it.

02:55:12.000 On immigration, I feel that as the United States of America, there are people who want to come here for a better life, and there's a legal and proper way to do that, and that needs to be followed.

02:55:22.000 You should expect that if you try to enter a country with Um, illegally to be turned away. 1.00

02:55:28.000 Um, it is a mess that we have found ourselves in over the last four years with the extremely heightened immigration and families coming here, children being born here, and then what are we gonna do? 1.00

02:55:39.000 We've got now children, United States citizens, and parents that are not.

02:55:42.000 It's a very difficult topic.

02:55:45.000 And I'll tell you guys, I was coming from investigating immigration. 0.98

02:55:49.000 It's a very damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't crime. 1.00

02:55:53.000 What ends up happening is you just end up getting in a situation where if you enforce it, people call you an animal, an asshole. 1.00

02:56:05.000 You don't You know, respect human rights. 1.00

02:56:08.000 But if you don't enforce it, they say, oh, you're a communist or you're fucked up. 0.98

02:56:12.000 So it's it's a very politically charged crime, guys. 0.99

02:56:15.000 That's the problem.

02:56:16.000 And when Democrats are in, they don't want you to go hard on immigration.

02:56:18.000 I can tell you guys this from professional experience.

02:56:20.000 And obviously the Border Patrol agent told that when we had him on the show. 0.99

02:56:23.000 But when you but if you do go hard on it, then they call you a family separatist and a fucked up individual. 0.98

02:56:31.000 You know, criminal element here as well. 0.79

02:56:35.000 And People coming from other areas that, you know, they're from a different culture and things that were okay necessarily where they came from are not okay here and it creates a serious problem for our criminal justice system. 0.99

02:56:49.000 Ellie, I want to turn to you about reproductive rights because you said that was the top issue for you outside of gun violence because of your two young children as well as the economy.

02:56:59.000 But what did you hear when they were talking about the issue of reproductive rights that struck you?

02:57:04.000 And you also say you're now leaning more toward voting for Trump in advance after this debate.

02:57:10.000 Before this debate started, you said you weren't sure.

02:57:14.000 Yeah, I really like that Vance said that he was pro-family and not necessarily pro-life or pro-choice.

02:57:21.000 It was pro-family, which I really appreciated.

02:57:25.000 Shout out to Shay.

02:57:26.000 Apparently we just got hit with a bunch of bots.

02:57:29.000 So Shay is cleaning this up and getting rid of these bots.

02:57:31.000 So shout out to her for cleaning up the chat so you guys can actually enjoy it and have a good conversation in there.

02:57:37.000 Someone botted the chat, so sorry about that.

02:57:40.000 She's cleaning it up right now.

02:57:41.000 Mods help her out. 0.99

02:57:42.000 And then all the real ninjas in here that are people, you know, obviously comment in there and let's get these fucking bots out of here. 0.97

02:57:48.000 You have to take a lot of considerations into account when talking about abortion. 0.98

02:57:53.000 And there's just, there's a lot to consider.

02:57:56.000 A lot of medical factors.

02:57:58.000 No matter at what stage of your pregnancy.

02:58:01.000 So it's a hard one to decide for me on that one because I don't think that there was...

02:58:07.000 Yeah, I'm not surprised it's a hard one because, you know, this is a very, you know, women almost always vote for reproductive rights regardless of where they stand politically. 0.99

02:58:16.000 It is what it is.

02:58:17.000 This is still a clear answer on...

02:58:19.000 And this is why Democrats are able to garner the female vote much better than the Republicans are because they have a clear thing. 0.99

02:58:25.000 Oh, we're never going to fuck with your reproductive rights versus like Trump delegates it to the states and then there's some, you know, it's not necessarily clear.

02:58:33.000 It's pretty opaque. 0.95

02:58:34.000 People can go in and say that he's, you know, against abortion when in reality he's not.

02:58:38.000 So they're able to, the Democrats are able to twist and manipulate the narrative to fit what they want, which they have done very well, by the way.

02:58:47.000 Because the Republicans basically delegated it to the states.

02:58:51.000 And that frees it up for them to kind of just be like, bam, we got the female vote now. 1.00

02:58:56.000 What his opinion was or what their opinion will be.

02:58:59.000 But I liked his view on it that it was more pro-family.

02:59:02.000 Yeah, Shay, just don't kick anybody out that's real.

02:59:05.000 You know, kick out the bots, but obviously let's keep our real people in here.

02:59:09.000 Okay.

02:59:09.000 Well, we're going to keep talking and we're going to have more for CBS Mornings tomorrow.

02:59:14.000 But as you can see and hear, economy, immigration, still big issues for these voters today.

02:59:20.000 But the biggest takeaway, all of you guys said you were just surprised, impressed, and actually feeling more hopeful after seeing two people sort of go at it, but in a very respectful, civil way.

02:59:31.000 So, John, we'll send it back to you in the studio.

02:59:34.000 All right, Tariqa, thank you.

02:59:36.000 Arizona's Democratic Senator.

02:59:37.000 Yeah, type in I'm a human in the chat, guys, just so she knows.

02:59:41.000 All of y'all in the chat, do me a favor, just type in I'm a human so she knows.

02:59:44.000 Because I don't want none of y'all getting banned if you're a human. 0.99

02:59:48.000 So just type in I'm a human so she knows and she won't fuck with you. 0.99

02:59:53.000 Yeah, please pay attention to these people, Shay. 0.99

02:59:55.000 Don't ban them.

02:59:55.000 Shout out to all y'all ninjas in here.

02:59:57.000 Senator Mark Kelly joins us now.

03:00:00.000 Senator, I want to ask you about the economy and a point that J.D. Vance made repeatedly, which is Vice President Harris...

03:00:06.000 Hey, Chad, go crazy. 0.91

03:00:07.000 Let's go, baby.

03:00:08.000 I got the chat open for you guys, by the way.

03:00:10.000 I don't got any sub things on there.

03:00:11.000 I don't have anything.

03:00:12.000 You guys can freely speak in there.

03:00:14.000 You don't have to be a member.

03:00:15.000 You don't have to be subscribed for 10 minutes.

03:00:17.000 You don't even got to follow the channel.

03:00:18.000 I got you guys all in here having a good conversation.

03:00:20.000 I'm all for it.

03:00:21.000 You guys know me.

03:00:22.000 I love free speech, but just obviously when I switch, you got to be safe.

03:00:24.000 So don't be crazy, man.

03:00:26.000 Shay is banning the bots.

03:00:27.000 He has a lot of thoughts and ideas about the economy and the future, but his essential argument was, why didn't she do any of that during the Biden administration?

03:00:35.000 What's the answer to that?

03:00:37.000 Well, she's running to be president of the United States, and you can compare the plan of Kamala Harris to Donald Trump's, and Donald Trump's plan is just a bad deal for the American people, his Project 2025, which...

03:00:51.000 Uh, no, sir. 1.00

03:00:53.000 Stupid. 1.00

03:00:54.000 Nope. 1.00

03:00:56.000 Project 2025 is not his. 0.99

03:00:58.000 I'm sick of these fucking leftists lying and saying that Project 2025 is his. 0.99

03:01:03.000 It's not. 1.00

03:01:05.000 As you saw in this debate, J.D. Vance has to defend, and it's an unpopular agenda where it's going to raise costs for families $4,000 a year through this flawed tariff plan that he has, where Kamala Harris wants to bring down costs for American families on prescription drugs, health care, child care, education, housing.

03:01:30.000 And let me ask on the foreign policy front, Senator, which is obviously top of mind when you look around the world at this precise moment, J.D. Vance's argument was there were no new outbreaks of war under the Trump administration, and that while he may, you know, have some behaviors people don't like, that he created a kind of deterrence in his presidency.

03:01:52.000 What's your answer to that?

03:01:54.000 Well, those behaviors...

03:01:55.000 Don't worry, Chad.

03:01:56.000 We're going to make it open again.

03:01:58.000 She put it on sub only just so she can get rid of the bots. 1.00

03:02:02.000 But we're going to put it back to open for you guys.

03:02:04.000 What people don't like is something our allies have experienced.

03:02:09.000 During four years of Trump being in the White House, and he has rather effectively shredded some of our alliances, and we rely on those alliances for our safety.

03:02:20.000 John, I was over in the Baltics and in Finland just about six weeks ago, and they're really concerned about November 5th.

03:02:28.000 They're paying close attention to our election because they feel that if things don't...

03:02:33.000 Go well in Ukraine for the Ukrainians. 0.98

03:02:37.000 That they could be the next target.

03:02:39.000 And they are NATO countries.

03:02:41.000 And if they're invaded by Russia, and I think the American people know where Donald Trump stands on NATO and Russia, that makes Americans less safe.

03:02:54.000 You know, our kids, for some people, their grandkids could wind up In a conflict in Europe, and that isn't good for anybody.

03:03:03.000 It's not good for Europe, our allies.

03:03:05.000 It's not good for us.

03:03:08.000 Senator Kelly, so much of tonight was about these two candidates introducing themselves to America.

03:03:15.000 Governor Walz has now admitted to misspeaking a few times about his biography.

03:03:21.000 Even tonight called himself a knucklehead for it.

03:03:24.000 How should Americans interpret what he said about his past and how he is chalking it up to misspeaking?

03:03:31.000 Well, I think he was talking about a date, whether it was June, July, or August in 1989, which is by my...

03:03:43.000 Chat, how do you unban somebody?

03:03:44.000 I got two unban requests here.

03:03:46.000 I'm going to unban you guys.

03:03:47.000 How do you unban?

03:03:48.000 Can somebody tell me the code again?

03:03:49.000 I know it's unban-something.

03:03:51.000 Somebody help me out with this.

03:03:52.000 I want to unban some ninjas.

03:03:54.000 Shout out to Notorious Swiss and Aztec Burrow for subscribing to Prime. 1.00

03:03:58.000 Can someone show me how to unban...

03:04:00.000 Or I can give them to Shay, actually.

03:04:02.000 She can unban them.

03:04:04.000 I can do that too.

03:04:05.000 Make it easier.

03:04:09.000 Oh, it's type...

03:04:10.000 Okay, dash unban.

03:04:13.000 Okay, so it's this unban.

03:04:19.000 And then...

03:04:21.000 Do I gotta... 0.98

03:04:22.000 Goddamn, this is... 0.99

03:04:23.000 What the hell? 0.97

03:04:25.000 Click unbanned button on the request.

03:04:28.000 It doesn't let me on the request.

03:04:30.000 I'm trying to find it.

03:04:31.000 I don't know. 0.97

03:04:31.000 Maybe it's because I got it like in a fucking weird way. 0.97

03:04:34.000 All right. 0.99

03:04:35.000 I'm just going to go ahead and just give shade their fucking accounts or some shit. 1.00

03:04:41.000 Math is 35 years ago. 0.99

03:04:43.000 I don't think it's something the American people care about.

03:04:46.000 Senator Mark Carly of Arizona, we thank you for your time tonight.

03:04:50.000 Thank you for having me on.

03:04:53.000 Our elections and surveys unit got an instant reaction to the debate, and so let's head over to Anthony Salvato with the results.

03:05:00.000 Hey there, John.

03:05:01.000 We did indeed.

03:05:02.000 Nationally representative sample of people who watched the debate tonight, and the tone, they told us, was overwhelmingly positive.

03:05:09.000 Almost 9 and 10 said that it was.

03:05:11.000 And then we asked, of course, who do you think did the better job?

03:05:14.000 Who do you think won?

03:05:15.000 And that was effectively even.

03:05:17.000 It was 42 Vance, 41 Walls, and 17% a tie.

03:05:23.000 So, look, this was very even, but what was underpinning that was that people told us that each of the candidates they thought was reasonable, number one, and then number two, another thing I noticed, John, was that the...

03:05:36.000 Thank you.

03:05:37.000 Yeah, Albo G9 and Unban also, Shea, Unban... 0.99

03:05:41.000 Damn it. 0.98

03:05:46.000 Okay, she unbanned both of them. 0.99

03:05:48.000 Thank you, Shay.

03:05:49.000 All right.

03:05:49.000 Keep cooking.

03:05:50.000 Favorable ratings for each of those candidates went up compared to how they came into the debate, was higher afterwards.

03:05:57.000 So all of that sort of underpins this really positive tone that people came out of the debate with.

03:06:04.000 Anthony, thank you so much.

03:06:05.000 I want to bring back in our team for some closing thoughts.

03:06:08.000 Major Garrett, Robert Costa, Nancy Cordes, Ed Gordon.

03:06:11.000 Major, I want to start with you again.

03:06:13.000 They tried to introduce themselves to America.

03:06:18.000 They tried to answer as many questions as they possibly could.

03:06:21.000 Are there still waters that are murky out there, questions that we did not get answered that we need to know from these two candidates?

03:06:28.000 Sure.

03:06:29.000 I mean, J.D. Vance tried to find, when he was struggling with the Republican record or perceptions of Republicans on reproductive rights, excuse me, healthcare, gun violence, to sound bipartisan, because he knew that was the safest life raft to get in.

03:06:43.000 Yeah, I mean, that is true, but you've got to also remember that the Republicans are fairly more central this time around, man.

03:06:50.000 ...metaphorically.

03:06:52.000 Those issues were down to the benefit of Democrats.

03:06:54.000 And Kamala Harris... 1.00

03:06:55.000 Oh, shit, what the fuck? 1.00

03:06:57.000 My bad, guys. 1.00

03:06:59.000 National security, foreign policy, global economics...

03:07:03.000 ...alike.

03:07:04.000 enjoyed was the criticism sorry chat of them either from a different color yes or Donald Trump Stan thank you and that was effectively even it It was 42 Vance, 41 Walls, and 17% a tie.

03:07:22.000 So, look, this was very even, but what's underpinning that was that people told us that each of the candidates they thought was reasonable, number one, And then number two, another thing I noticed, John, was that the favorable ratings for each of those candidates went up compared to how they came into the debate was higher afterwards.

03:07:43.000 So all of that sort of underpins this really positive tone that people came out of the debate with.

03:07:50.000 Anthony, thank you so much.

03:07:51.000 I want to bring back in our team for some closing thoughts.

03:07:54.000 Major Garrett, Robert Costinance.

03:07:56.000 All right, let's go ahead and look at what Fox News got to say.

03:08:00.000 Let's see here.

03:08:05.000 Is it Fox News Live?

03:08:06.000 To handle world leaders, much less moderators and obesity.

03:08:16.000 Let me ask you this, because it's kind of the same, a similar point here. 1.00

03:08:19.000 100,000 watching this shit. 0.99

03:08:20.000 Congressman, why not get Tim Walz out there in, in more unscripted settings, doing more interviews? 1.00

03:08:26.000 That is something that you've already seen, I think, in some of the reaction coming from Democratic strategists who were suggesting maybe he was a little bit too nice on the debate stage tonight.

03:08:34.000 And if he had done more unscripted interviews, he'd have a little bit more comfort level on a night like this.

03:08:39.000 Yeah, look, I think he did what he had to do tonight.

03:08:42.000 You did?

03:08:42.000 You think he executed on the mission he needed to go?

03:08:45.000 Yeah, certainly.

03:08:46.000 And I think that they, in some ways, they both executed on their own objectives, right?

03:08:51.000 I mean, J.D. Vance had to go out there and show America that he's not just, like, a total sociopath.

03:08:58.000 Potentially he achieved that, and Tim Walz went out there and showed that he's an effective leader and has the chops to be the Vice President of the United States.

03:09:07.000 So there was different...

03:09:08.000 Okay, look, I know Shay is banning some people, so this is what we're gonna do.

03:09:11.000 Alright?

03:09:12.000 Shay.

03:09:15.000 Guys, the people that she banned, we're gonna bring y'all ninjas back. 0.97

03:09:20.000 Just don't fucking go crazy on Twitch. 0.96

03:09:23.000 If you guys want to go crazy, come to Castle Club. 0.99

03:09:26.000 They're cooking right now in there.

03:09:27.000 Dudes are hilarious in here. 0.99

03:09:29.000 Memes and all that shit. 0.97

03:09:31.000 Alright? 0.99

03:09:32.000 Come to Castle Club.

03:09:34.000 Speaking of which, Castle Club.

03:09:37.000 So...

03:09:38.000 Yeah, I know, Shay, you're only banning bots.

03:09:42.000 But, like, try to be a little bit...

03:09:44.000 Mods.

03:09:45.000 Let's be a little bit moderate.

03:09:46.000 Let's tell the guys.

03:09:47.000 Give them a warning.

03:09:48.000 Let's not ban them right away.

03:09:50.000 Let's give them a warning.

03:09:51.000 Try to keep them in as long as possible.

03:09:52.000 Guys, we're on Twitch.

03:09:53.000 Don't go crazy.

03:09:54.000 I want to go crazy.

03:09:55.000 Go to the Rumble chat.

03:09:56.000 Say whatever y'all want.

03:09:57.000 Go on the Castle Club chat.

03:10:01.000 Alright, Side 2 says that bald bundle of sticks...

03:10:05.000 Got y'all.

03:10:06.000 That bald bundle of sticks or cigarettes, if you guys know what I'm saying.

03:10:09.000 Just lied when he said that we rely on our allies for safety, but then just proceeded to say that the Baltic nations feel that they're going to be the next targets if we don't continue to support Ukraine and if it eventually falls.

03:10:17.000 Yeah, of course, dude. 1.00

03:10:18.000 They're idiots. 1.00

03:10:19.000 Myron, it's life or death. 1.00

03:10:20.000 Play keep on rolling by King George, okay?

03:10:23.000 On behalf of all Ws, we give this to Myron.

03:10:27.000 What a privilege card.

03:10:28.000 Alright, thanks, bro.

03:10:29.000 I appreciate that.

03:10:30.000 Martin, can you play Undead by Hollywood Undead?

03:10:32.000 I love that song.

03:10:32.000 Facts.

03:10:33.000 That is a good song, Chimichaka.

03:10:35.000 WPolitics.

03:10:35.000 I'm 25.

03:10:35.000 I want to understand how our country works better.

03:10:37.000 Your streams have motivated me to pay more attention to do more research.

03:10:39.000 Absolutely, my friend.

03:10:40.000 You should know what's going on.

03:10:42.000 Go blow up my tweet on XNinjas.

03:10:45.000 Username...

03:10:45.000 Oh, God.

03:10:46.000 Okay, this nigga. 1.00

03:10:47.000 Martin, be honest. 0.98

03:10:48.000 JD's girl looks like an OF girl.

03:10:50.000 Does she?

03:10:50.000 I don't think so.

03:10:52.000 I think she's not attractive enough to be a no-off girl. 0.98

03:10:54.000 They both had decent points.

03:10:55.000 Vance more so, but overall, Vance put him to shame.

03:10:57.000 Yeah. 0.98

03:10:58.000 Martin, I get no bitches. 1.00

03:10:59.000 Can someone gift me a bitch? 1.00

03:11:00.000 That's from Rubber Toe. 0.99

03:11:01.000 I don't know if we can help you with that one, but tune in tomorrow.

03:11:03.000 We'll teach you how to get girls. 1.00

03:11:04.000 President Trump has immediately responded on the abortion topic.

03:11:06.000 He's fired up.

03:11:07.000 Of course he is.

03:11:08.000 Why are these women so quick to cut off Vance but allow Biden 2.0 to keep yapping? 1.00

03:11:12.000 This is a replay of Trump vs.

03:11:13.000 Kamala.

03:11:14.000 Facts.

03:11:14.000 Martin, hop on in and show these things how to actually moderate.

03:11:18.000 Aloha!

03:11:20.000 Wait, okay. 1.00

03:11:22.000 Brewski saying funny shit. 1.00

03:11:24.000 All right. 0.99

03:11:25.000 But yeah, guys, so don't worry.

03:11:28.000 We're going to take it easy on you guys with the moderation.

03:11:30.000 We're not going to kick y'all ninjas all the way out.

03:11:31.000 We're just going to give you guys a warning. 0.99

03:11:33.000 Because we're on Twitch, guys, and you guys got to remember, bro, we're controversial, so we already got a bunch of people on our fucking asses. 1.00

03:11:38.000 It sucks. 0.99

03:11:39.000 So we got y'all. 0.99

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03:12:00.000 Shout out to you ninjas.

03:12:01.000 Bars for both, and they both could have been more aggressive.

03:12:05.000 And WMoz, thank you guys so much for moderating.

03:12:06.000 Obviously on Twitch it's much different, so I appreciate you guys moderating and keeping things so we stay on the platform.

03:12:15.000 Yeah.

03:12:16.000 Shout out to all my Rumble Ninjas that go crazy on here. 0.99

03:12:18.000 Certainly.

03:12:19.000 But in the end, though, I got to turn this back to the debate.

03:12:23.000 It's a sad situation for Donald Trump when he's him and his allies, family and otherwise, are trying to stumble around looking for some excuse as to why he doesn't want to debate anymore when the obvious reason is staring us right in the face.

03:12:37.000 He got trounced in the last debate and doesn't want to do it again.

03:12:41.000 The reason why I think, you know, it's funny, Savannah and Lester were doing the special report right before this broadcast and said, show of hands, do you want to see a debate?

03:12:49.000 Now, I'm not typically a show of hands kind of person, right?

03:12:51.000 But in this instance, I think any, of course, journalists want transparency.

03:12:55.000 We want to hear from the people who folks are either electing or might be about to elect.

03:12:59.000 I think generally, right, as a journalist, debates are a good thing.

03:13:03.000 The more you hear from candidates, they're a good thing.

03:13:05.000 And I bring this up because what we saw tonight were a lot of questions on policy.

03:13:09.000 Hey, shout out to Calvin, bro.

03:13:13.000 Calvin Bondi said, amazing coverage.

03:13:15.000 100 bucks tip on Castle Club.

03:13:19.000 Shout out to you, bro.

03:13:19.000 Thank you so much for that.

03:13:20.000 I'm gonna get back to you on the oil stuff, by the way.

03:13:22.000 I'll hit you. 0.98

03:13:23.000 I fucking didn't hit send on it, but now that you send that, I appreciate that. 1.00

03:13:27.000 I'm gonna hit you. 1.00

03:13:29.000 I'm gonna hit you on the side. 0.99

03:13:30.000 Thank you so much, Calvin. 0.98

03:13:31.000 One of the homies on X. One of my homies on X. Helps me so much when we're doing spaces and shit like that.

03:13:35.000 Shout out to you, bro. 0.51

03:13:38.000 I might spark up a space for y'all ninjas after.

03:13:40.000 ...issues from healthcare to the economy to foreign policy on Iran and Israel and much more climate change, for example, which is not something that's come up a lot.

03:13:49.000 It would be an opportunity for Donald Trump to speak more clearly about some of his policy positions on, for example, immigration and how you would actually implement mass deportations, which J.D. Vance did not answer.

03:14:00.000 To speak more clearly on his position on abortion access, for example, he did make some news on that front tonight, tweeting out during the debate.

03:14:06.000 Sophia Miami got banned off of Rumble. 0.99

03:14:10.000 She must have been saying some crazy shit for y'all to kick her off. 0.99

03:14:12.000 Oh well. 0.99

03:14:14.000 That he would not support a national abortion ban, that he would veto that.

03:14:17.000 Why did it take him so long to come to a policy position on that front?

03:14:20.000 Listen, we're having a conversation on this Let's not just gloss over that. 0.98

03:14:47.000 He does hostile interviews and Waltz and fucking this chick Kamala Harris do not. 1.00

03:14:55.000 So, keep that in mind, guys. 0.96

03:14:57.000 That's actually very important that he will go on adversarial news channels and do hostile interviews.

03:15:02.000 ...etcetera.

03:15:03.000 Kamala Harris typically doesn't. 0.98

03:15:05.000 Not typically.

03:15:06.000 She won't do it because she's scared.

03:15:08.000 Guys, speaking of which, do me a solid, guys.

03:15:09.000 Follow me on...

03:15:12.000 Instagram, okay?

03:15:13.000 This is my Instagram.

03:15:14.000 We got 9,100 followers.

03:15:16.000 I need to promote this thing more.

03:15:17.000 I don't promote it enough.

03:15:18.000 Guys, follow me on Instagram.

03:15:20.000 Let's hit 10,000.

03:15:21.000 Once I hit 10,000, then we can go ahead and take over and start streaming on Instagram. 0.76

03:15:28.000 We can start waking up some of these losers on Instagram. 0.78

03:15:32.000 Alright? 0.97

03:15:32.000 For all the dudes that say I don't lift. 0.97

03:15:34.000 I won't even let me look at it.

03:15:35.000 Oh well.

03:15:36.000 Well, you'll have to go on Instagram to look.

03:15:38.000 But anyway, yeah guys, we got 9,100 right now.

03:15:41.000 Let's get to 10,000.

03:15:42.000 Okay, 10,000 followers.

03:15:44.000 I'll drop the link in here if somebody can drop it actually for me.

03:15:46.000 Okay, Flaming Heron did it.

03:15:47.000 Thank you so much.

03:15:48.000 Follow my Instagram, guys.

03:15:50.000 Let's hit 10,000 so that I can start streaming on this bad boy.

03:15:52.000 Alright?

03:15:56.000 I post like four videos a day on there.

03:15:58.000 I'm going to take a quick pace while we do this.

03:16:00.000 She goes to every once in a while.

03:16:01.000 She gives the same speech at every rally.

03:16:03.000 But let's also acknowledge that former President Trump also goes to, in many instances, friendly interviews.

03:16:07.000 Of course.

03:16:08.000 But I'm just saying, these people are out all the time having these discussions.

03:16:13.000 So they're not going to debate again unless Donald Trump changed his mind.

03:16:16.000 He also said he would debate on Fox.

03:16:17.000 She wouldn't do it.

03:16:18.000 He's already done one, what, on CNN and also on ABC. Two entities we deem hostile to our side, went into those places and had those debates.

03:16:28.000 Kamala Harris would never go on Fox News and do a debate, ever. 1.00

03:16:31.000 You know, presidential elections particularly are about the future, not the past.

03:16:36.000 J.D. Vance is obviously...

03:16:38.000 A smart guy.

03:16:40.000 And Donald Trump is getting old, so I'm not going to hold him accountable for this.

03:16:44.000 But what was interesting about J.D. Vance's debate tonight is how shallow he was about the future.

03:16:52.000 Could not answer with any specifics about addressing the childcare crisis.

03:16:55.000 Could not answer with any specifics how he would change the ACA as they purportedly want to improve upon it.

03:17:03.000 Could not answer with any specifics how he would execute this mass deportation that they talk about each and every day in a humane manner at all, so that they don't have any policy specifics.

03:17:17.000 It's a failure of their actual campaign, not even one individual.

03:17:21.000 Let me just ask you this, though, because here we are, and we talked about this a minute ago, and it's something that I think is important to remind people.

03:17:26.000 Early voting is happening.

03:17:27.000 Yeah.

03:17:28.000 Key battleground states.

03:17:29.000 Early voting is going to be rolling out increasingly over the course of the next two and a half weeks, right?

03:17:33.000 You look at, I think it's the 17th or the 19th that you have one of the last of the key Sunbelt battlegrounds that goes for in-person early voting.

03:17:39.000 Did anything that happened here tonight move the needle to a degree that could make a difference in this race, in your view?

03:17:45.000 Congressman?

03:17:46.000 Absolutely.

03:17:47.000 A hundred percent.

03:17:48.000 You know, I think that there was...

03:17:50.000 And you saw, actually, the Waltz team lowering expectations going into this.

03:17:56.000 There was some sense that I think people were thinking, oh, this guy's just, you know, jovial, right?

03:18:01.000 He's just a...

03:18:01.000 Folksy, schticky, that kind of thing.

03:18:03.000 Folksy, schticky, this and that. 0.82

03:18:05.000 The ultimate Midwestern guy.

03:18:07.000 And I say that, you know, as a kid from Brooklyn with limited knowledge of what that means.

03:18:12.000 But, you know, in the end, he showed that...

03:18:15.000 He is a truly competent leader with incredible experience in government.

03:18:21.000 Yeah, I think it matters.

03:18:23.000 When you're talking about elections decided by 42,000 votes across three states, J.D. Vance came out, and I think a lot of people seeing him for the first time after this caricature was painted of him by the media and others.

03:18:36.000 People realize, wait a minute, this guy's had a hard upbringing, a tough life with a mother who was an addict.

03:18:40.000 He was raised by his grandmother.

03:18:42.000 They couldn't make ends meet all the time. 0.91

03:18:43.000 And he's not this vicious, crazy person that he was painted to be.

03:18:48.000 Instead, he's someone who understands the policy, has a grasp on it, and he did a good job exposing the radical nature of Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.

03:18:56.000 Tim didn't even really talk about Kamala Harris.

03:18:58.000 He couldn't because she has no policies.

03:19:00.000 He just kept talking about Donald Trump the whole time.

03:19:02.000 All right, so both of you think that this could maybe make a difference when voters go and hit the ballot box.

03:19:07.000 Hogan, Max, thank you both very much.

03:19:09.000 Tom Yamas, I'll bring you back in there at the spin room.

03:19:11.000 To the point that both Hogan Gidley and Max Rose were making, this is an election that will be decided absolutely on the market.

03:19:18.000 All right, we'll get to the ditty stuff here soon.

03:19:20.000 Those key counties and those key battlegrounds here, I've been out on the road talking to folks about those big issues like the economy and immigration.

03:19:26.000 This is going to be a competitive race over the course of the next 35 days.

03:19:31.000 And it's interesting what's going to change the race, right?

03:19:34.000 Because if that's it with the debates, no more debates.

03:19:36.000 It's unclear if there'll be any more consequential interviews after this Sunday.

03:19:40.000 What else do they have to sort of make up their mind?

03:19:43.000 They're going to have to watch our coverage and other coverage and sort of go from there.

03:19:46.000 That's going to do it for our coverage tonight.

03:19:47.000 I'm Tom Yamas in the Spin Room.

03:19:49.000 And I'm Hallie Jackson here in New York on behalf of all of us here at NBC News.

03:19:53.000 Thanks for watching.

03:19:53.000 We'll see you tomorrow.

03:20:04.000 Hey, good evening.

03:20:04.000 I'm Tom Yamas.

03:20:05.000 Our coverage of the first and only vice presidential debate on NBC News Now is just getting started.

03:20:10.000 My colleague Holly Jackson will join me in just a moment.

03:20:13.000 I'm live from the spin room in New York City where we'll hear from some top advisors to both candidates and from undecided battleground voters.

03:20:20.000 The big question, were any minds changed tonight?

03:20:23.000 You see this handshake right here between two candidates in a debate that kicked off with a question on the unfolding situation.

03:20:29.000 Yeah, I think J.D. Vance won this debate, guys.

03:20:32.000 Um...

03:20:33.000 I think it was better than the Trump debate.

03:20:35.000 I think he was able to clarify a lot of things.

03:20:38.000 Obviously, the Kamala camp is gonna use the whole part where he won't admit, he wouldn't admit that Trump lost the election.

03:20:45.000 Speaking of which, before we transition over to the Diddy stuff, I do want to show you guys this post right here on X, okay?

03:20:54.000 And this comes from MaysLove14.

03:20:57.000 Me and her actually worked together to do this, this thread, because we had a whole space about this.

03:21:02.000 And the 2020 presidential election was one of the most scrutinized elections in American history, resulting in numerous allegations of election fraud.

03:21:09.000 Over time, numerous claims emerged with evidentiary support, often released in small batches, which may have diluted the urgency and significance of the issue.

03:21:17.000 This thread seeks to compile a comprehensive list of all allegations related to election fraud from 2020, highlighting their severity and the compelling nature of the evidence presented.

03:21:26.000 By examining these concerns in totality, we can foster informed discussions and take proactive measures to strengthen the electoral system, ensuring its integrity and preventing any future vulnerabilities.

03:21:35.000 So I'll schedule a space with special guests that are incredibly knowledgeable, blah, blah, blah, right?

03:21:39.000 So she goes ahead and has a summary here, right?

03:21:42.000 And I'll go ahead and give you guys the link to this thread so you guys can go ahead and read it in your free time.

03:21:47.000 We're just gonna quickly gloss over it, but this is a pretty thorough analysis of some of the issues, right?

03:22:00.000 So first, mail-in ballot fraud, deceased voters, Dominion voting systems, vote counting observers, late night ballot dumps, ballot harvesting, double voting, foreign interference, improper voter registration, manipulation by poll workers, geolocation data, surveillance footage, whistleblowers, Vulnerabilities in election laws, suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop, obviously that was a huge story, right, that could have swayed votes.

03:22:29.000 Public and private partnership manipulation and censorship, big tech, CISA, CIA, FBI, dismisses Russian disinformation, right?

03:22:38.000 And then summary of state-specific fraud allegations, 2020 election.

03:22:42.000 What went down in Georgia?

03:22:43.000 What went down in Wisconsin?

03:22:44.000 What went down in Pennsylvania?

03:22:45.000 What went down in Arizona?

03:22:46.000 What went down in Michigan?

03:22:47.000 Why, you might ask, is this important?

03:22:49.000 Because, guys, these are important states, right, that really sway elections.

03:22:53.000 Why do you think that the candidates are spending so much time in these different states, right?

03:22:58.000 And then various organizations and institutions, right?

03:23:02.000 Let me go back here.

03:23:04.000 And then we have sources here.

03:23:07.000 And then we had X-Space to talk about it as well.

03:23:12.000 Let's see here.

03:23:15.000 And then we got Summary of Allegations and Investigations, and then Key Sources and Databases, right?

03:23:22.000 The Comprehensive Database Statistics.

03:23:25.000 There were 1,500 proven instances of voter fraud, criminal convictions, civil penalties, etc.

03:23:30.000 And this is just what they discovered.

03:23:32.000 But the point I'm trying to make, guys, is, and the thread is there for you guys if you guys want to check it out, is this isn't just people screaming, election fraud, election fraud!

03:23:41.000 Like, there's some serious integrity issues with the 2020 election that need to be looked at again.

03:23:47.000 Alright?

03:23:49.000 That's what we need to look at.

03:23:52.000 Alright, guys?

03:23:53.000 So...

03:23:56.000 Shout out to you guys.

03:23:57.000 I dropped the link in there.

03:23:59.000 I'll drop it in here for you guys one more time.

03:24:02.000 Because I do think that this was an excellent post.

03:24:05.000 I actually retweeted this.

03:24:07.000 Matter of fact, I'm going to go ahead and retweet it right now.

03:24:09.000 This is the thread.

03:25:02.000 You guys are seeing me tweet right now, in real time.

03:25:08.000 Sorry guys, I got like a small ass keyboard.

03:25:10.000 Should I tag him?

03:25:16.000 Maybe I'll tag him.

03:25:21.000 Well All right.

03:25:37.000 We lit.

03:25:38.000 All right, cool.

03:25:39.000 So let's go ahead.

03:25:40.000 So now we're going to transition, guys, over to The Diddler, okay?

03:25:47.000 So guys, this is the part where we're going to switch on over.

03:25:50.000 Rumble Ninjas, I need you guys to come on over to Twitch.

03:25:53.000 All right?

03:25:53.000 Come on over to Twitch, guys.

03:25:58.000 I want you guys to switch on over.

03:26:01.000 Switch on over.

03:26:03.000 All right.

03:26:04.000 Twitch.tv.

03:26:09.000 Fresh and Fit Podcast.

03:26:13.000 Let's take over on Twitch, guys.

03:26:16.000 I'll drop the link for you guys in here. 0.96

03:26:27.000 There's some people already fucking crying. 0.69

03:26:30.000 Guys, just so y'all know, you won't have to worry because you will go ahead and be able to... 0.98

03:26:43.000 You'll probably be able to get a free sub.

03:26:47.000 So come on over, guys.

03:26:48.000 Shout out to Aztecboro.

03:26:49.000 Cheered a thousand bits.

03:26:51.000 Deezer Carpenter subscriber prime.

03:26:53.000 Boom.

03:26:56.000 Folks, Fox Uris said, I'm banned there for nothing.

03:27:00.000 Bro, don't worry.

03:27:01.000 Come back and we'll unban you. 1.00

03:27:03.000 And then this Coke Benny kid said, fuck Myron. 1.00

03:27:05.000 All right, bro, fuck you. 1.00

03:27:06.000 Fuck you. 1.00

03:27:07.000 You don't have to come on over. 1.00

03:27:08.000 Dudes are over here fucking crying. 0.98

03:27:13.000 And then this Anarchy Ron guy still crying about not getting banned. 0.99

03:27:16.000 Bro, we unbanned you. 0.99

03:27:18.000 I don't know what the fuck you're talking about me, man. 0.99

03:27:19.000 And then Chewy's saying, unban me on Twitch. 1.00

03:27:21.000 Alright, this is what we'll do for all you fucking crybabies. 1.00

03:27:24.000 Alright? 1.00

03:27:25.000 Type in your Twitch username on Rumble right now. 0.95

03:27:27.000 I'm gonna have Shea unban you niggas. 1.00

03:27:30.000 Alright? 0.95

03:27:31.000 So go ahead.

03:27:34.000 Someone said, I'm stronger than you, Myron. 1.00

03:27:36.000 What does that have to do with anything, you idiot? 1.00

03:27:38.000 People are so low IQ. What does that have to do with anything? 1.00

03:27:42.000 So, come on over, guys.

03:27:46.000 Put your Twitch username in the Rumble chat.

03:27:49.000 I will literally pass it to my mods.

03:27:50.000 Actually, Jacob's in here right now.

03:27:52.000 Jacob will unban you.

03:27:53.000 Jacob is in the Rumble chat right now.

03:27:54.000 Shout out to you, Jacob.

03:27:56.000 Jacob will unban you, ninjas. 0.92

03:27:58.000 So, type your username on Twitch...

03:28:03.000 And we will go ahead and get you unbanned.

03:28:09.000 All right, JD, looking fantastic.

03:28:10.000 That's from Dogcatcher.

03:28:11.000 Coella89 says, why do they never answer the question?

03:28:13.000 That's true.

03:28:14.000 So I don't think he understands the assignment Dogcatcher says Democrats had the last 12 or 16 years.

03:28:18.000 Why didn't they fix it then?

03:28:19.000 Thank you, Dogcatcher.

03:28:21.000 TrumpVance2024, shout out to you.

03:28:23.000 TamponTimEats, okay.

03:28:24.000 Tim's tampon string is showing.

03:28:26.000 DogEaterCatcher, he's cooking. 0.99

03:28:28.000 JDVance should come up with a chef's apron because he's grilling this clown. 0.99

03:28:32.000 Coella, all the lies. 1.00

03:28:33.000 Ariel Estevez, this motherfucker, Vance cooking. 1.00

03:28:36.000 Vance made them stop with that partisan fact check-in. 1.00

03:28:38.000 Those moderators look like hacks and will be remembered as such.

03:28:43.000 Dogcatcher said, I said hello in the chat, but it won't let me say.

03:28:48.000 That's weird.

03:28:50.000 Dogcatcher, I'm Kobe.

03:28:51.000 And then Guillermo Reyes, 2014, 10 bucks, said they don't like the music.

03:28:55.000 They don't make music like they used to.

03:28:56.000 Facts, they don't.

03:28:59.000 So, yeah.

03:29:06.000 You know what?

03:29:07.000 I actually...

03:29:08.000 You know, this actually... 1.00

03:29:11.000 Let me address this idiot Coke Benny in the chat. 1.00

03:29:13.000 He has the nerve to say, Myron's a sellout leaving free speech for censorship. 1.00

03:29:17.000 So, let me make this extremely clear for the haters.

03:29:20.000 Right?

03:29:22.000 If you want to grow, you've got to get on Normie apps to put out your content.

03:29:27.000 Normie's acclimate.

03:29:28.000 Say, wow, this is awesome.

03:29:29.000 Then they come to Rumble.

03:29:31.000 Okay?

03:29:31.000 And Castle Club.

03:29:32.000 I'm going to stay live on Castle Club and on Twitch.

03:29:35.000 Okay?

03:29:36.000 You can watch on Twitch.

03:29:38.000 Or if you're a member of Cast Club, you can watch on Cast Club.

03:29:40.000 We got 200 plus people over there watching on Cast Club, bro.

03:29:43.000 So instead of you bitching, you got to understand that for us to grow the Fresh Fit brand, we have to exist on the normie apps to a degree.

03:29:52.000 YouTube don't pay us.

03:29:54.000 So we're on Twitch.

03:29:55.000 We're trying to take over Twitch.

03:29:56.000 We're making an entrepreneurial move here to grow.

03:29:59.000 So if you want to sit here crying, I don't know what to tell you, bro.

03:30:03.000 I don't know what to tell you.

03:30:03.000 I literally just gave y'all what?

03:30:05.000 How long have I been on Rumble now?

03:30:07.000 I've been on for three and a half hours.

03:30:12.000 I was on Rumble. 1.00

03:30:13.000 And you're fucking bitching. 1.00

03:30:15.000 And I'm literally giving you the opportunity right now to come on over to Twitch and we're going to gift you a sub and we're going to fucking unban you. 1.00

03:30:24.000 But you're in here bitching. 1.00

03:30:26.000 So, fuck you, Coke Benny, because people like you will never be satisfied. 1.00

03:30:29.000 You will always cry about something. 1.00

03:30:32.000 Fuck you, dude. 1.00

03:30:35.000 Seriously. 1.00

03:30:35.000 Fuck you. 1.00

03:30:39.000 Shout out to Ark Lightning. 1.00

03:30:40.000 He just gifted out 20 fucking subs for the guys that are coming over to Rumble. 1.00

03:30:44.000 So, what the fuck is your excuse? 0.99

03:30:46.000 We dropped the link in here and you're still fucking crying. 1.00

03:30:49.000 Gave you three and a half hours of content on Rumble and you're still fucking crying, bro. 0.99

03:30:54.000 And that's the thing. 0.98

03:30:56.000 And the dude said, I thought you said you don't care about money.

03:30:58.000 No, I don't, because I'm obviously giving my own money and donating to the Twitch chat. 0.99

03:31:04.000 Dumbass. 0.98

03:31:05.000 It's about growth. 0.99

03:31:05.000 It's about staying relevant. 0.99

03:31:06.000 It's about expanding, my friend.

03:31:10.000 Alright?

03:31:10.000 Not everything is about money.

03:31:11.000 It's about getting the message out.

03:31:12.000 To get the message out, you've got to be on the normie apps to get the message out, bro. 1.00

03:31:15.000 But you're an idiot. 1.00

03:31:16.000 You're not a businessman. 1.00

03:31:16.000 You don't understand how social media works. 1.00

03:31:18.000 You're over here just talking shit from an anime app, from an anime avatar. 1.00

03:31:21.000 You don't know nothing. 1.00

03:31:23.000 And that's why you're watching and I'm fucking making a pod. 0.99

03:31:27.000 I'm over here. 1.00

03:31:28.000 You're watching me for a reason, stupid fuck. 1.00

03:31:31.000 Fucking incredible, bro. 1.00

03:31:33.000 People talking shit. 1.00

03:31:34.000 You always got something to say. 1.00

03:31:35.000 Three and a half hours of content.

03:31:36.000 I'm going to switch on over to a whole other topic.

03:31:38.000 All right, man.

03:31:38.000 Come on over to Twitch.

03:31:39.000 We're going to give you a free sub. 0.88

03:31:40.000 It's going to be lit.

03:31:41.000 Come on over. 1.00

03:31:42.000 Hell, go on fucking Twitter. 1.00

03:31:44.000 You can go ahead and watch me on my fucking Twitter, bro. 1.00

03:31:47.000 Myron Gaines X. Go watch on there. 0.99

03:31:48.000 I'll stay live on there too for you. 1.00

03:31:50.000 Since you motherfuckers want to cry about free speech. 1.00

03:31:57.000 No, I cook fucking fair weather motherfuckers like this, dude. 1.00

03:32:02.000 He's not really a supporter. 1.00

03:32:04.000 He's just in here bitching and crying. 0.99

03:32:06.000 Because I'm still staying on X. That's a free speech platform.

03:32:08.000 So go to X, dude.

03:32:10.000 Go to X. It's literally right there for you.

03:32:11.000 Myron Gaines X. Alright? 1.00

03:32:13.000 I'll even drop the link for your bitch ass. 1.00

03:32:15.000 Because all you do is fucking cry. 1.00

03:32:18.000 That's all motherfuckers do is cry. 1.00

03:32:19.000 So annoying. 1.00

03:32:22.000 Here, here you go, pussy. 1.00

03:32:24.000 Let me get the link for you right here. 1.00

03:32:27.000 Since you want to fuck you, bro, I hate Twitter! 1.00

03:32:31.000 There's the X fucking thing. 1.00

03:32:33.000 You love free speech? 1.00

03:32:34.000 There's the fucking Twitter right there for you, bitch. 1.00

03:32:37.000 Niggas always crying, bro. 1.00

03:32:39.000 I shouldn't even be having this conversation with you because, honestly, you're just a fucking loser behind a computer. 1.00

03:32:46.000 But I care about the people. 1.00

03:32:48.000 So, even though I'm talking to your dumb asses, also for all the other people listening here, that this is what it takes to grow on social media, my friend. 0.99

03:32:54.000 You must get on the normie apps, provide value, then they're like, damn, this is lit! 1.00

03:32:58.000 Then they come to Castle Club, then they come to Rumble, etc.

03:33:02.000 If we want Rumble to grow, we gotta take market share.

03:33:05.000 If we want to take market share, we gotta be on the platforms that have the market share, bro. 0.99

03:33:09.000 It's fucking business. 1.00

03:33:10.000 It's incredible to have to even explain this shit. 1.00

03:33:13.000 The dude said, good point, I'll go to Charlie Kirk's stream, someone with high IQ and not a sellout. 0.99

03:33:16.000 Yo! 1.00

03:33:17.000 The fact that you even said that proves that you're a fucking dumbass. 1.00

03:33:22.000 Charlie Kirk is one of the biggest shills for a certain state. 1.00

03:33:27.000 So go watch his stream then. 1.00

03:33:30.000 Fucking dumbass, bro. 1.00

03:33:31.000 Over here saying, oh, I'm gonna go talk to someone that's real and not a sellout. 1.00

03:33:36.000 Bruh, that's fucking funny. 0.99

03:33:39.000 That's fucking funny, this guy. 0.99

03:33:42.000 Three and a half hours on Rumble content, dude. 1.00

03:33:44.000 Still fucking bitching, bro. 0.99

03:33:46.000 And then he goes ahead and says, I'm a sellout. 0.99

03:33:50.000 And he mentions one of the guys that's one of the biggest sellouts for a certain nation-state in the Middle East.

03:33:57.000 And I like Charlie Kirk, by the way.

03:33:58.000 FYI. I like Charlie Kirk.

03:34:00.000 I agree with all of his points, except for foreign policy with Israel. 1.00

03:34:05.000 Fuck that. 1.00

03:34:06.000 We don't need to give those assholes any money. 1.00

03:34:09.000 So anyway, with that said, guys, come on over. 0.99

03:34:12.000 Switch.tv slash Fresh and Fit Podcast.

03:34:17.000 Switch.tv slash Fresh and Fit Podcast.

03:34:20.000 I'm going to make the switch on over right now.

03:34:23.000 Drop the link right there for you guys.

03:34:25.000 Got over a thousand live viewers.

03:34:27.000 I'm going to end the Rumble stream.

03:34:31.000 Now we're going to switch on over to...

03:34:34.000 The Diddy situation.

03:34:36.000 Alright?

03:34:37.000 So come on over, guys.

03:34:38.000 This concludes the debate and my breakdown of it.

03:34:40.000 It's a great debate between the two.

03:34:43.000 We're going to switch on over.

03:34:44.000 We're going to stay live on X, Castle Club, and Twitch.

03:34:49.000 So you can watch on X, Castle Club, or on Twitch.

03:34:52.000 Come on over, bros.

03:34:54.000 End the Rumble stream now.

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Fresh & Fit - October 02, 2024

JD Vance VS Tim Walz! Vice President Debate 2024

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