Kali Muscle On Surviving A Life of Crime, Prison, And A Heart Attack!
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On this episode of the Frustrated Podcast, we have a special guest, Cali Mosel. Cali is a social media influencer, entrepreneur, and entrepreneur. He has been with us for a long time and is one of the most genuine and down to earth people I know. We talk about how he got his start in the game, how he started his business, and how he ended up where he is today. We also talk about the upcoming Luxury Yacht Party he is throwing next Saturday, August 10th, which is going to be a party you don t want to miss. We hope you all enjoy this episode and don t forget to join us next Saturday for the Luxury yacht party. Tickets are on sale now, so make sure to get your tickets to the party before they sell out. We hope to see you there next Saturday! Cheers, EJ & The Crew! - The Frustrating Podcast Team Hosted & Produced By: EJ and The Crew Produced by: FreshFit Featuring: Tall Guy, Tall Guy & Tall Guy Callie Mosell EJ is an Influencer, Entrepreneur, Social Media Manager, and Social Media Strategist Cali Muscle is a Social Media Coordinator and Entrepreneurship Coach and has been in the business for over a decade. . In this episode, we get to sit down with Cali to talk about his life, his journey, his start-up, and what it's like in the industry, what he s been up to in the last few years, and why he s not here anymore. , and what s going to do in the future, and his plans for the future of the next few years. We also get to hear from Cali's plans for his future in the yacht party, and so much more. - Cali s future plans for this party. Ej and EJ s plans for next Saturday s - EJ's future, Ej s future in this weekend s . . , EJ talks about what s coming next, and much more! . EJ gives us all the details on the party and more. EJoes Podcast, and we hope you guys enjoy this one! EZ & EJ gets a chance to be there! and we also gives us some insight into what s to come.
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And we are live with the legend himself, Cali Muscle Guys.
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You know exactly where to find us, rumble.com slash freshfit.
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All the stuff that isn't necessarily as safe, the tough discussions, the Zoom calls, etc.
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You want to keep us independent so that we don't have to necessarily rely on these...
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It's going to be three stories, open bar, bunch of hot girls.
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We're probably going to have easily 200 plus girls there.
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We got about 100 tickets or so for the guys, 100 to 150, depending on what it looks like.
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And you can only get in for the cheap price of only $9.98, man.
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You are never going to be able to get on a yacht that big with that many girls for that price point.
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Because I'll tell you this, with a thousand bucks, you can't even get your own yacht with a Cuban captain that's illegally here that can't speak English, bro.
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You have to be there with 13 ugly mid-girls, and you've got to find them yourself.
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It's going to be a good-ass time, guys, so make sure to join in.
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Aren't you going to take a picture of the Yacht or something like that?
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So Fresh will make a video for you, ninjas, because Yacht is brand new.
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28th, but they're doing some more finishing stuff to it now.
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Okay, so we're going to be one of the first people to use this yacht, guys.
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Either way, we're going to be the first people on the yacht.
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So make sure to definitely get your tickets now, guys.
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But anyway, without further ado, we've got a special guest in the house, man.
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Callie Mosel, welcome to the Frustrated Podcast, man.
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We know who you are, but they don't know who you are.
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Not, you know, just making bad choices or whatever.
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Firstly, I've been watching you guys' shows since you started.
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Well, we've been trying to get a hold of you and bring you on for like a year or two, bro.
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I don't know if Organic or Tall Guy told you, but like, bro, we've been trying to get you on for a minute.
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I just now opened up my DMs when I started my program.
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Probably didn't want to deal with the headaches and shit like that.
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Actually, yeah, I do remember DMing you and it was like not open for messages.
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Because I remember when we first tapped in with Tall Guy and Organic, you were one of the first people who were like, hey, can you get us in touch with Cali Muscle?
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Oh, you know, today my last day of watermelon fast.
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Everybody that cop is like, all you gonna talk about is watermelon.
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And I almost fell out working out at Bussel Beach.
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Didn't have enough calories in my system and went crazy.
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Crazy, muscle-ups, pull-ups, and that Miami heat.
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I mean, I felt good, but I didn't know my body was overheating or whatever.
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So you're a legend in the space of YouTube and fitness as well.
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How did you get started into fitness itself and then YouTube?
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When I got out of prison in 2006, a guy approached me and said he wanted to do a video of me doing pull-ups, working out or whatever.
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And so I was doing a lot of model mayhem stuff and videos.
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And I'm like, oh, they're saying I didn't do it military style.
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So I did a muscle-up video, and that went viral.
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So I was replying, doing reply videos, basically to the comments that the trolls would say.
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So the first person I saw on YouTube was, uh, what do you call it?
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And so I started doing videos here and there, whatever.
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Because a guy told me I had genetics and, you know, all I had to do is...
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Because I was anti-steroid supplements, everything.
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And so he told me, oh, you would kill them in bodybuilding.
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You make a lot of money like Ronnie and Jay and Flex.
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And I was making a lot of money at the time shipping Ecstasy to Denver.
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So I'm like, shit, I might as well invest in myself.
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And so I did my first bodybuilding show in 2009.
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I was just reading stuff on the internet, getting all the steroid books, and I became a studier.
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Were you even on gear at this point when you won that show?
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No, when I did that show, what happened was I went to a show and Jay Cutler made me look like a little boy.
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And I'm like, oh, I was popping pills at the time, a stripper and drinking.
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And so I went to this show and he made me look bad.
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Let's go back a little bit because you have a very interesting story, right?
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For people that aren't familiar with your story.
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I remember seeing that because I've seen your content since the early 2000s, 2010s, right?
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You're one of the first big fitness influencers.
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But let's go back to why you went to prison in the first place.
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Where you grew up and what led to you going to jail the first time?
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So, yeah, my pops, my stepfather had his own auto body shop.
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My birth dad, my biological, he was a Jim Jones survivor.
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If you look up, my birth name is Chuck Kirkendall, and I'm a junior.
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I changed my name in 2009 to Kylie Muscle Kirkendall.
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Moms had and pops had like three, four, five cars at a time.
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I became an avid gambler or whatever, shooting dice and things like that.
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I went to high school and I wanted to be like my older brother.
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He was four years older than me, a genius, 4.5 student.
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He ended up going to Cal Poly San Luis Obispo on an engineering scholarship.
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I was a senior class president, graduated 3.83 overall, GPA in the newspaper for sports, football, wrestling, track.
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Right, so 1993, my senior year, my brother committed suicide.
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I was a youth pastor, believed in God, preached God, and I stopped believing in God, kind of, when that happened.
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I was on my way to Fresno State with a full academic athletic scholarship.
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So I went to school with a chip on my shoulder, angry.
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Yeah, I just, I went like, to the point where I just had tunnel vision.
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I just was working out, training for football, and I'm like, I'm going to the NFL if it killed me.
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I don't know about that, that's that Miami sun being down that face, man.
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So you really, you started grinding, went to school.
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Yeah, I went to Fresno and got in a financial bind and asked my coach, asked my mother.
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And I had a pistol laying around and the devil got in my head.
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Went on a robbery spree by myself and ended up going on a run.
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And my parents were like, you can go on a run the rest of your life or you can deal with it young.
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Okay, so they go there, ATMs, you just pop up out of nowhere.
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And I got the idea of that from watching the news as a kid.
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Critiquing, you know, and I can see how people are to critique the news and think you know how to do a crime or whatever.
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How many robberies did you do before the police started catching up to you?
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It was like, I didn't know what the hell I was...
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You know, God was spanking me, you know, immediately.
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So yeah, so I ended up catching the case of an armed robbery.
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And so they ended up giving me seven years, and I was institutionalized, bro, my first week in prison.
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I was already swole, 190, so everybody was looking at me as a shot caller.
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And people ask me, you know, how did you like prison?
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Football, wrestling, track, church, go to college, then the fraternity, Alpha Phi Alpha.
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So when I got to jail, I'm like, oh, I felt like I belonged there.
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Because you're already used to waking up early and having lunch at this time, dinner at this time, working out this time, all that.
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So how did you acclimate to being in prison in California, which, please correct me if I'm wrong, the 90s was a different time, where it's like, from what I understand, the California state prison system is run by gangs and colored, right?
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Like, if you're a black, you're with the blacks.
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If you're white, you're with the whites and the gangs.
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Obviously, California is the birthplace of the modern-day gangs we know today, Bloods, Crips, etc.
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Like, how do you navigate that as a guy that wasn't really a street guy?
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You know, you just made a couple robberies here.
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How do you navigate that and kind of keep yourself out of getting stabbed or shanked?
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And so I learned how to read and write Arabic like in 60 days.
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So when I got to Delano State Prison, I was a top dog.
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And, you know, I ran, did Juma services, everything.
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Do you think being a convert, like, that kept you away from a lot of the bullshit and the gang activity?
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As a black guy in prison, especially, I was from the Bay Area, but I was in Southern California prisons.
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But for other races, white, Mexican, you gotta join up.
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So yeah, blacks, we have it easier than other races.
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You gotta think, when I went in the 90s, you had trannies coming into the prison system.
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Ain't nobody taking no booty like that in California.
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If you stick to yourself, obviously you're a Muslim, and then you are like a religious leader as well.
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And you're educated, so people are going to respect you more because you're not like a bumbling moron like a lot of people that are in prison.
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And you're big, so they don't want to mess with you.
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Like, the Latinos, the black gangs, the white gangs, etc.
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So, what happened was, no, nobody messed with you.
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I got this saying, Quentin, and I seen it was fake.
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They was messing with, you know, them boys or whatever.
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And so I'm like, all my friends I grew up with was in this gang called Kumi 415.
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So they was begging me, man, come on over here and run this.
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And so I was like, you make me a shot caller with a high-ranking position, I will.
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And so I ended up going to the hole and I transferred over from practicing Islam to running this game.
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Because BGF was so hardcore and coming down on Blacks, they were like, oh, we need a spin-off to save the ones that's not a part of BGF. Okay.
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How often were you getting in fights at this point?
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Because obviously there's going to be a target on your back if you're the top guy.
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The top guy didn't let you know he was the top guy.
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You had never seen me grouped up with the guys.
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So we was looked at, you know, these was OG Black Panthers.
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They're like, nah, the head dude, never be seen with these guys.
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Don't congregate and meet with them or nothing.
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So I was, because, you know, in prison, like you say, Take the head off the body of fall.
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And I would even act like I'm just a regular sometimes.
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Like I'm a regular foot soldier or whatever, you know.
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But it was, bro, it was, I'm just being honest, it was fun.
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I was young, swole, had a ton of power, and prison was fun.
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And so, yeah, that's why I went back about four times.
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Like how many fights did you get in when you were in?
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So only time I got in a fight is when I wanted to set an example with my own.
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Well, like if they bucking the rules, and when I did that, it was a friend of mine.
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Yeah, stabbed or beat up or whatever because I had to let people know.
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You know, it's crazy because they'd be like, you calling shots, but you ain't putting no work.
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So I always, probably once a year, did something stupid to let them know that I put in work or whatever.
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Because San Quentin, it was so much fun popping up.
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I was next to him and I had goosebumps the whole damn time.
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For those that are unaware, Who we were talking about, guys, was the Night Stalker from the 1980s.
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Not the Golden State Killer, the original Night Stalker.
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The Night Stalker that they have the Netflix series on, Richard Ramirez, who killed a bunch of people.
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And he was a strange serial killer because he killed them with guns, knives.
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And actually, gun sales, I think in the summer of 1980 in Los Angeles, soared because everyone was terrified of this fucking guy.
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Well, he was in a cell right next to me, and he would just...
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He just pacing in a circle, just talking to himself and shit.
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There were girls in the fucking courtroom going crazy.
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But back then, they used to sensationalize serial killers.
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What's that term again called for people that like killers like that?
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He was frail, the most palest human I ever saw.
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Because what they did, they put the people that went to the hole in with the death row inmates.
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And I met Tookie up in there before they executed Tookie Williams.
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I had to learn Swahili while I was in the hole because the blacks only spoke Swahili.
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So Richard Ramirez, he was sitting next to you.
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You said girls would come and visit him all the time.
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So what happened was he went to the yard the first time in his being there, like in 10 years.
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In a death row in the hole, it's like a cage, maybe as big as this room, where they let the death row inmates go at one time if they want to go to the yard.
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And they could do push-ups and work out and talk.
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He went out there, and they got on him immediately.
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Because other than that, if you don't rape as kids, people don't really care about women getting raped or none of that, because you don't know the story, you don't know the details.
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So they were basically away from because he killed kids.
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If you watch that documentary with the Night Stalker, the first victim, the witness that comes in and tells her story, she was a kid when he kidnapped her and sexually assaulted her.
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He'd break into the house, he kidnapped her, brought her back to his place, assaulted her for a couple days, then he actually let her live.
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They caught him off of a New Balance sneaker, if I'm not mistaken.
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And the detectives were able to figure out what store he bought it from, what day he bought it from based on the make of it because he left a footprint of this sneaker.
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And they were tracing back to that purchase because I think he had used a credit card or something like that to buy it and that's one of the ways they identified him.
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Yo, I ain't never wear no more New Balance, bro.
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And then also witness that because he had really bad teeth and really bad hygiene, one of the things that a lot of the victims remembered was his fucking smell, too.
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That's fucking crazy that you were locked up with him.
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So basically he paced around in his room, talked to himself.
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As long as you don't have no spousal abuse or anything alone that beating a woman or something like that.
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Can you explain to people real quick what conjugal visits are?
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Oh yeah, so that's like, you know, if you're married or get married, they let you go, I believe it's every four months.
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In a room for about three days, two to three days.
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Yeah, it's something that only a few states have it.
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California's one of the few states that allows it.
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So he probably had conjugal visits with all these chicks.
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But there was a whole lot of other cats that, you know, were weird too.
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Who else were you locked up with that was, you got some fucking celebs already.
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When I wrote my book, it was the most difficult to remember the prison stuff.
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So that was only a few years I had been out at that point.
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And I still had forgot a lot about, you know, names and just...
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I knew I could still tell you which prisons I went to what year, but names and all that stuff.
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Because I'm assuming while you were doing your seven years, like, they were moving you around the state, right?
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So every year I wanted to try to move somewhere.
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Was there like a reason you maybe you didn't like like the...
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You're the first person I think that we brought on that said like, jail wasn't that bad.
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I became a stripper, personal trainer, and I was making good money.
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I went back to jail from doing seven years and 11 months.
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And to be clear, you were selling the product more than doing it.
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So, I mean, crack can be extremely profitable because you're able to break it down.
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I mean, cocaine is more expensive, of course, but if you know what you're doing with the crack and you've got good cocaine to base from, you can...
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Stretch that crack, make a bunch of fucking money.
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So I was a shot caller, so I could get an unlimited amount of kilos.
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So I was getting the kilos, busting it down, cooking it, and dispersing it to all my gang members.
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All right, let's talk about that real quick, because I used to work in law enforcement.
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This stuff always fascinates me when I'm able to sit across from a former drug dealer.
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So, at the time, were you still up in Oakland at this point?
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At the house I grew up in, at my mother, in the neighborhood, that same neighborhood.
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So, how many keys were you getting a month, roughly?
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Each time I met up with my guys, every three, four days I was getting five kilos.
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You get three to five keys every three to five days?
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How much were you paying per key at this point?
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And I was busting them down to, I was getting about 40 off each one.
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So, were you getting them on full consignment, or were you just coming up with half of the time?
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Okay, so you were buying them for $15, but they'd give it to you for consignment.
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For the audience out there, drugs on consignment basically is like, he had such a good reputation that he was able to get rid of the product and pay them back, where...
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And he was able to go ahead, do what he needed to do, and then all he had to do was, you're just responsible for paying 15 per kilo back.
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Which in the drug game, you gotta be somebody to be able to get kilos on consignment.
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Three to five days you were getting that many kilos.
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I'd go to Frisco, get him some, Oakland, and so I'd make my rounds.
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I mean, now I'm going to use some Fed terms here.
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If you're getting that much cocaine, and you're getting it pure, I'm assuming, straight from the board.
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If you're getting kilos with a stamp on it, that means it's coming straight from the cartel.
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And that typically means that that's their stamp of, like, this is pure.
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You do what the fuck you're going to do with it once you get it to the States.
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So you being in North Cali, yeah, you're a regional distributor.
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So you probably had all of Alameda County, right?
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How many guys do you have working under you at this point?
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So I had about, me personally, I was dealing with about a hundred guys, but they would disperse it.
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So you get the three or five keys every three or five days.
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What was the first thing you were doing once you get the product?
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Like the fact that you would get the product that much, break it down yourself, cook it yourself, and just have one helper.
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And then you would basically give it to your guys ready to go packaged.
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I was my most violent during this time as well.
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Because I dispersed it to these guys and they come up with these excuses.
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And, you know, I got to pay somebody that $15,000.
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You know, I seen Scarface like everybody else thinking, oh, I got some kilos.
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Well, because I'm making it, but I got cars with rims, music, dudes talking about, oh, I'm short 5,000.
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I'm like, bro, this ain't like the movie Scarface.
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Because you're getting every three to five days.
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You're getting like over $50,000 worth of product.
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I mean, a month, you're responsible for paying probably $300,000 back.
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If you're getting them every three to five days, $50,000, I mean, roughly.
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Like, when you got back out the second time, like, did you just immediately start doing this kilo-level stuff?
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For the audience to understand, bro, if you're getting kilos on consignment, you appear with a stamp on it, you have a direct connection to Mexico.
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Well, I was the shot caller of my gang, so they already had it tied in with the North Daniels.
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Because, you know, in Northern California, blacks and Mexicans run together.
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It's not like Southern California where you got Serenios and they're against blacks.
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So you're getting stuff, so you're only able to pay back your people and make a little bit of money on the side, but it was headaches, money getting lost.
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Who, I mean, at this point, if you're doing that much, bro, you had to have been on the Fed's radar.
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Who picked you up when you got arrested for this?
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They said, I'm just standing out there and a dope fiend come up and I just look at my boy and be like, server.
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And so, yeah, that's why I went the second time to prison for that.
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How much did they, so did they get you, like, what did they actually get you on?
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Like, we know that you were dealing with kills, but like, did they get you on conspiracy?
00:49:11.000
So Oklahoma Police was dirty just when they had the rioters.
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I ended up having a lawsuit on Oklahoma Police because they whooped me a couple of times or whatever.
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You don't think anyone snitched on you, though, for them to get you on conspiracy?
00:49:30.000
No, because that's the little game they was running.
00:49:37.000
Okay, so like a detective testified and said that shit.
00:49:46.000
So they gave me a parole and probation violation, so I ended up doing 16 months on that case.
00:49:55.000
And then got out, said I never sell dope again, started pimping.
00:50:20.000
People tend to think that like, oh my god, everyone's getting human trafficked.
00:50:25.000
But the reality is a lot of times it's just prostitutes and pimps, man.
00:50:27.000
And it's an angry prostitute that didn't get paid or she had a fight with her pimp.
00:50:32.000
And then you call the police and they're like, never mind, I love him.
00:50:34.000
So it's like a lot of the times these big human trafficking rings that they bust are simply just prostitution rings.
00:50:42.000
I guess, what was it like transitioning from drugs to the pimp game?
00:50:50.000
So I liked that I'd have to ride around with kilos in the trunk.
00:50:59.000
Thank God that DEA never caught you or anything, bro.
00:51:04.000
So yeah, it was a headache though, you know, having all those women, because I wasn't a natural talker.
00:51:16.000
So when I got into pimpin', I had to talk just sporadically, even when I didn't want to have to.
00:51:45.000
You know, you got to manage getting a hotel, getting their nails done, clothes, risk your life.
00:51:53.000
Oh yeah, because you're responsible for protecting them.
00:51:55.000
So you the Uber driver, you the security, everything.
00:51:58.000
My first night having my first hoe, she called me up like, uh, this dude about to put me in the van.
00:52:14.000
I pulled up, and the Lexus LS400, hey, let my hoe go.
00:52:22.000
He had the hoe by the wrist, and she looking like, you gonna help me?
00:52:26.000
So I just whipped out the 40 cal, like, bro, let my hoe go.
00:52:30.000
And he was like, next time this hoe Google, I'ma hide the hoe.
00:52:40.000
What was the transaction supposed to be even worth that?
00:52:45.000
No, so what happened is she was staring at him.
00:52:50.000
Next time you hold Google out, I'm going to hide the hoe.
00:52:53.000
So she was just looking and he walked up on her and she looked him in the eyes.
00:53:13.000
He had a van down the street and everything, just throwing holes in it.
00:53:16.000
Did that create problems for you, like, I guess in the future, that now you had this other pimp here that you had pulled a gun out on?
00:53:29.000
I'm like, man, I'm going to call me 415, let my hoe go.
00:53:32.000
And he's like, all right, I'm going to let her go this time.
00:53:34.000
Next time the hoe look at me, I'm going to have her.
00:53:39.000
And I'm like, I'm about to risk my life for this chick I don't really even know.
00:53:45.000
So I started telling people the story that the hoe's the one that went in.
00:54:02.000
You don't even know how much she really making.
00:54:08.000
Unless you beating a woman or something like that.
00:54:13.000
How long were you doing this for, where you experimented with the pimp game?
00:54:28.000
So if a hoe bring me back $500 a night, I'm putting at least $350 back in tour.
00:54:45.000
So you figure out of that five, I was only making profit maybe $150, $200?
00:54:56.000
After putting into the $350 or whatever for their room and board, their clothes, their food, and all that.
00:55:10.000
So you were making how much a month then would you say at this point?
00:55:29.000
OnlyFab's managers now make thousands of dollars, millions, without the risk and danger.
00:55:36.000
They're in the crib on a computer just texting.
00:55:38.000
Because what you mentioned, you're making $20K, but you're really profiting $10K, but that doesn't account for all the hours that you're working.
00:55:52.000
You're housing them, feeding them, all this other shit.
00:56:28.000
So the negative, I guess, is you made way less money.
00:56:30.000
Would you say it was riskier and more dangerous than the joke game?
00:56:38.000
And when I started pimping, old school pimps call it tennis shoe pimping.
00:56:44.000
We gotta sometimes just sit in the car, watch, make sure nobody kidnap.
00:56:53.000
So you gotta be out there, make sure nobody kidnap them and riding around.
00:56:59.000
So the drug game was way better, in your opinion?
00:57:02.000
No, the pimp game was more fun because you could go to a, you know, play pool down the street or, you know, you ain't got a rider.
00:57:18.000
Uzi, which I already signed a thing that would never get caught with a gun again.
00:57:27.000
So I'm riding around with Uzis and guns, and bro, it was just...
00:57:31.000
And I was so dumb, I have a Lexus or something shiny with...
00:57:41.000
And you mentioned that this is where you were getting really violent.
00:57:45.000
So were you more violent when you were doing the drug game or the pimp game?
00:57:55.000
So the drug game is like, because these dudes wouldn't pay you back.
00:58:25.000
I called up my homie and asked him, he was in the heroin game, so I got some heroin from him.
00:58:36.000
Yeah, well, and I got snitched on that I had that and a gun on me, and I got in a high-speed chase with the Oakland police.
00:58:53.000
It was the same police that put the past case on me.
00:59:23.000
They didn't need a warrant before to put a tracker in your car.
00:59:26.000
Then a case came out, U.S. versus Jones, and they switched it where you needed to get a search warrant to put a tracker in a car.
00:59:31.000
So they put that tracker in your car without a warrant back then.
00:59:40.000
As soon as I took that car out of storage, they got me that day.
01:00:01.000
So you went down the second time for, I'm assuming, heroin?
01:00:07.000
Robbery, drugs, and then what was the third time you went there?
01:00:09.000
Robbery, drugs, drugs again, and then high speed chase.
01:00:14.000
Okay, so you went in for the heroin, and then they caught you again for the chase.
01:00:19.000
No, so the heroin and the high-speed chaser was the same case.
01:00:25.000
So what happened was, yeah, I get in the high-speed chaser, I throw the heroin out the window as I'm on the freeway.
01:00:37.000
So when they apprehended the car, they got the gun.
01:00:41.000
So I had my mother go get the car, and they let her have it and put it up in storage.
01:00:47.000
And the day, three months later, I got it out, they got on me.
01:00:50.000
Okay, and you got hit with the gun and the drugs?
01:00:58.000
I'm curious to know, when you sold drugs, who were your customers?
01:01:16.000
And then he gives it to his people, and it's their job to distribute it and pay them back.
01:01:20.000
They had their own fiends that they would sell to, but he would basically sell it to them.
01:01:26.000
I'm curious who it was, like white people, black people, Hispanics?
01:01:36.000
So, okay, so you went in the third time, right, for the gun and the high-speed chase.
01:01:51.000
We didn't get to talk about the dope again then, the third one.
01:02:01.000
And then how long did you do for that third time?
01:02:09.000
Alright, and then after that, that's the last time you got arrested.
01:02:13.000
You got out drugged the fourth time, hopefully.
01:02:15.000
Yeah, so you got out drugged the fourth time of what year?
01:02:23.000
So cumulative time in prison, what are we thinking out here?
01:02:26.000
11 years, cumulative between your four different bids.
01:02:32.000
And then we talked about, yeah, you had done some dancing.
01:02:35.000
I'm not going to fucking do the drug game anymore.
01:02:40.000
So 2007, I got out and got in a barbershop with one of my friends.
01:02:59.000
Some guys run up in there after about nine months of me being in there because me and my best friend that was in the barbershop with me, we had big cars on big rims, had chicks running in and out.
01:03:24.000
And then when they was robbing my boys, I was like, I can't let them just get killed or something like that.
01:03:39.000
Well, and so that brought me back into the streets.
01:03:43.000
Wait, did they like escape and you said, I'm going to get revenge?
01:03:58.000
And, uh, you know, and, uh, yeah, so I, from there I started, uh, selling ecstasy and, uh, cause I went, it got bad.
01:04:12.000
Yeah, people got shot up, and my friends got shot, and it was a big ordeal.
01:04:18.000
So that brought you back to the drug game, that barbershop robbery.
01:04:27.000
I was making five to six grand a month, didn't have to deal with no headaches, and it was good.
01:04:35.000
Barbershops get robbed a lot because it's a cash business.
01:04:38.000
Luckily, thank God that day, they didn't get that much.
01:04:58.000
From a kid, I started working out at about 15 because the coaches said I was too small in football.
01:05:09.000
In 90 days, I was jacked from 98 pounds to 140.
01:05:18.000
It just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger and went to prison, got bigger, got out 215, swole, and It was just, I was used to it at that point in my life, you know what I mean?
01:05:33.000
And so once I started competing in bodybuilding, it just went to another level when I added in juice.
01:05:45.000
And that's where the story, everybody be like, oh, he lied.
01:05:51.000
I never was able to tell people I was on illegal drugs.
01:06:00.000
But people act like I lied to them because I didn't tell them.
01:06:04.000
And, you know, I always knew that when the opportunity presented itself and I need to tell people I would, and that's what happened.
01:06:14.000
What year was that that you came out and was transparent about it?
01:06:28.000
So it actually happened in 2019, I want to say, because I did IVF. So everybody was questioning why I lost my size, because I wasn't on steroids for about almost two years.
01:06:46.000
My sperm went to zero and I wanted to have kids.
01:06:50.000
I got a video called Why I Lost My Size that went viral.
01:06:57.000
My weight always fluctuated because I thought I was doing it right.
01:07:01.000
I would get off three, four months out of a year.
01:07:09.000
What gear were you using, I guess, throughout those years?
01:07:13.000
Oh, you figured Tess, Trin, Diana Ball, Anadrol, tried insulin before, which almost killed me before.
01:07:25.000
So, yeah, I thought I was doing it right, and I felt I was a late bloomer.
01:07:31.000
Because you met Jay Cutler, and you were like, fuck.
01:07:33.000
You saw, like, this is what an Olympian champion looks like.
01:07:38.000
If I could turn back the hands of time, I would have got one of the professional coaches.
01:07:42.000
And correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've heard from other people that have done these competitions, they're all using steroids at some point.
01:07:50.000
You can't get an IFBB Pro card, or even a lot of these regular leagues, without being...
01:07:55.000
So it's well accepted by most people you're going to do that.
01:08:00.000
I remember like in YouTube, like it was like a, like, you know, people would say, Natty, you're not blah, blah.
01:08:04.000
Like coming out and saying, yeah, I'm not Natty was like a huge taboo in YouTube, bro, which we could talk about the fitness industry here in a second.
01:08:10.000
So just going back real quick, because I want to get the whole story.
01:08:13.000
So you come out the second time, you get robbed at the barbershop, you're like, fuck this shit.
01:08:17.000
And then you start, you get back in the game and you said you were selling ecstasy.
01:08:20.000
Yeah, I was shipping ecstasy to Denver, making a boo-cool amount of money.
01:08:35.000
It ran all the way until I moved to LA in 2010.
01:08:44.000
So what happened was some youngsters told me when I was pimping that if I tried ecstasy, I'd be talking a lot.
01:09:02.000
And so I started popping ecstasy and I got involved in that business.
01:09:08.000
And so I had a gang comrade of mine that moved to Denver, and he was like, man, start shipping it, we can eat.
01:09:23.000
No, I was getting my ex from, it's funny, it's one of my good friends I went to high school with, and he changed his name to Khali too now.
01:09:31.000
But I would get it from him, and then I got an Asian connection.
01:09:49.000
So, what I was doing, I was getting, every three days, I would get like $4,000 and ship them.
01:09:57.000
Well, and I would get a little, I would go to Walmart and get a radio and And put it in like two different...
01:10:06.000
I put 2,000 in each radio and ship them to Denver.
01:10:12.000
And so I had like six different fucking FedExes and UPS I would alternate so they wouldn't catch on.
01:10:24.000
So, every three to four days, you have 4,000 pills.
01:10:36.000
And how much, bro, holy shit, how much were you making?
01:10:45.000
So, each thousand, I was paying 2,000, he would give me five.
01:10:55.000
So each load you sent to Denver, you were making 3K profit?
01:11:04.000
So how much were you making a month at this point?
01:11:14.000
I was making a minimum profit of 100K. A month?
01:11:20.000
And at the time, you were still doing the bodybuilding, right?
01:11:29.000
Because steroids aren't cheap, for those that are wondering.
01:11:36.000
You weren't getting them like pharmaceutical level?
01:11:42.000
Steroid is cheaper than a thing of protein powder.
01:11:49.000
A bottle of Tesco lasts you anywhere from five to ten weeks.
01:12:01.000
I'm assuming you quit the barbershop shit at this point.
01:12:07.000
So you're training what, two, three times a day?
01:12:09.000
Hell no, I ain't never trained no two, three times a day.
01:12:23.000
So all this money, what were you doing with it?
01:12:35.000
So you had a bunch of money saved at this point probably?
01:12:38.000
No, because what happened was before I moved to LA, me and my partner kind of fell out.
01:12:47.000
He sent some money, he got lost in the mix, so I started looking at him sideways, he looking at me sideways, so it shut down.
01:13:18.000
So you were able to make this $100,000 a month for maybe a year or two maybe?
01:13:38.000
I did my taxes, and my tax lady looked at me like, where did this fucking $175,000 go?
01:13:49.000
Because I'll fly everywhere, hotels, and all, man.
01:13:53.000
Do you have a coach at this point, too, probably?
01:13:55.000
If I could turn back the hands of time, I would have got a coach.
01:13:59.000
Because they would have made me do blood work and all that stuff.
01:14:03.000
You're making $100,000 a month, shipping the ecstasy there, paying for your bodybuilding career, traveling all over the place, first class, and it's not cheap to enter into these competitions.
01:14:28.000
I did a few videos, a Muscle Up video went viral.
01:14:38.000
And I was only making $100, $200 a month off YouTube.
01:14:46.000
Then I moved to LA. I was barbering, personal training, and doing background acting work.
01:14:53.000
And so the acting started blowing up, and I never wanted to be an actor.
01:15:03.000
And so I went and signed up, and the next week I was working with Matthew McConaughey.
01:15:14.000
It was a music video with Jamie Johnson where he was the director and everything.
01:15:19.000
And so that put me on a map because I put it on my resume.
01:15:26.000
And I started doing Old Navy commercials, the Geico.
01:15:33.000
You did one commercial where you were like across...
01:15:43.000
So, they paid me over a span of two years, only 50k.
01:15:49.000
They said, back in the day, all the actors used to ask me that, and I'd tell them, they were like, you would have made like a half a million back in the day for that commercial, as much as it aired.
01:16:11.000
Did you have an agency that found these gigs for you?
01:16:14.000
So I did have an agent, but I was finding a lot of it myself on LA Casting.
01:16:43.000
And you kind of are segwaying into this more show business road.
01:16:49.000
And so I'm looking at being a big-time actor or whatever, and so it's popping.
01:16:58.000
Rash from Strength Project contacted me for the second time in a year.
01:17:06.000
I was scared because I didn't want nobody to know my background in Hollywood.
01:17:24.000
And what happened was, during that same time, I had an Old Navy commercial airing.
01:17:30.000
A guy commented on the Old Navy that I did gay porn.
01:17:46.000
And so Old Navy contacted my agent and was like, if this happened, because you had to sign a contract, you haven't did no porn, nothing.
01:18:00.000
Because, you know, it's a family-friendly, you know, commercial.
01:18:05.000
So it came back that I didn't do gay porn, but I had modeling pictures up and I was a stripper.
01:18:20.000
So right then, I'm like, oh, I got to release my fucking book.
01:18:23.000
Because these people on the internet can say anything and people will believe it.
01:18:33.000
And then within 90 days, I seen they was swindling me.
01:18:36.000
So I took my rights in my book and published it myself on Amazon.
01:18:42.000
And yeah, from there, everything started going up.
01:18:46.000
Life was, I never even dreamed of how life was going.
01:18:51.000
And so in 2016, I went through a divorce, moved to Vegas, had my supplement company.
01:19:03.000
So it was thriving and I had to move to Vegas to get my money right because it was getting low.
01:19:13.000
I just got, you know, acting, you just, you're like a slave, man.
01:19:36.000
I was able to get my sperm back up and have my twins.
01:19:45.000
I was making like $200,000 a month when Trump got in.
01:19:49.000
In 2016, and you had your supplement company at this point too, right?
01:19:51.000
Yeah, but I was making that off Facebook and YouTube.
01:19:54.000
The supplement company, I was only making maybe $20,000 a month.
01:19:58.000
Okay, I got to ask you about this because every guy that I bring in, right, because I love bringing OG fitness influencers in, and I want to get your take on another question as well.
01:20:08.000
That run a supplement company, they almost always get out and ask them, why?
01:20:11.000
And they're like, bro, the profit margins aren't worth it.
01:20:32.000
No, I'm not in it yet, but I'm coming with a drink, organic.
01:20:38.000
You figure, bro, all you're spending is $4 on a bottle of pre-workout.
01:20:46.000
They saying that because their marketing wasn't up to par or whatever.
01:20:53.000
I only stayed with a pre-workout, a BCAA. Then I upgraded to a test booster and vitamins.
01:21:26.000
So how long did you have hyphae mud before you...
01:21:33.000
I just got rid of it when I had my health awakening.
01:21:38.000
I'm like, I'm not going to take caffeine, so I'm not going to sell it to nobody.
01:21:42.000
And so I could have sold the company for at least $2.5 to $5 million.
01:21:49.000
Because you didn't even want to have anything for it.
01:21:52.000
I went on this health tip, and my business partners, they didn't want to sit down and figure out how to go the organic way, a natural way of doing things.
01:22:05.000
And that's what they said, so I just trashed it.
01:22:08.000
So take us through what led to the health incident that made you kind of change your life completely around you.
01:22:15.000
Yeah, so I had 2021, I had a heart attack, massive heart attack, a widow maker, and when that happened, I'm like, I never thought, I thought, like I said, I was a late bloomer with the roid stuff.
01:22:33.000
I was eating what I thought was healthy at the time, just white rice.
01:22:45.000
What happened to me takes 30 years of build-up.
01:22:51.000
Working at McDonald's, eating microwave burritos, and just the worst food you can eat.
01:22:59.000
And I remember years ago, I always had a problem with my right foot being puffy and swollen.
01:23:08.000
So I had signs for years that I was having a cloggage.
01:23:14.000
So 2021, I had that heart attack, and I'm like, man, F caffeine, F everything that I think possibly could have caused it.
01:23:27.000
And so I just went on wild-caught salmon and spinach every day for a year and a half at 7 p.m.
01:23:39.000
I was like 190 at the time and still strong in the gym.
01:23:44.000
He said, as of today, this is my last day of the watermelon fast.
01:23:51.000
And the most I weighed was 270 when I was my swolest.
01:23:58.000
I was going to ask, you probably feel the best.
01:24:12.000
Yeah, so I had the heart attack, and so I was eating that.
01:24:18.000
I'm like, shit, he's eating 1,200 calories with a whole watermelon.
01:24:29.000
Did you feel good on the salmon and spinach diet?
01:24:42.000
And then you said, why watermelon in particular?
01:24:49.000
For some reason, you had the most spiritual awakening.
01:24:57.000
I feel like when I eat watermelon, I become alive.
01:25:00.000
You know, this whole conversation right now is a meme.
01:25:02.000
Three black dudes at a table talking about fucking watermelon.
01:25:11.000
I feel like I'm awake, and I feel like I'm just flowing with my water.
01:25:15.000
Bro, there's some dudes in Mississippi right now, White Hood's watching this shit, losing their fucking minds.
01:25:40.000
Yeah, so what I did was I just went extreme with the health tip.
01:25:50.000
It's a spot that sponsored me and C.T. Fletcher in Vegas.
01:26:12.000
And so I just feel the best of fruit and veggies now.
01:26:23.000
He did stem cell twice, and he's back energetic and feeling good.
01:26:41.000
And all the books of God talk about it, so it's amazing.
01:26:44.000
So would you recommend a watermelon fasting for most people?
01:26:48.000
Yeah, if you have body fat, but if you're low body fat, it's going to be tough.
01:26:54.000
But if you want to lose weight super fast, detox, it's amazing.
01:27:03.000
You said you do it for like a month, so are you like 30 days on just eating nothing but watermelon?
01:27:11.000
And then how long do you transition back to a, I guess, standard diet?
01:27:17.000
So I start back, like, tonight, if I eat something or whatever, I have some different fruits.
01:27:24.000
Maybe if we go out or something, I have a salad with avocado, which is a fruit.
01:27:40.000
Do you break it down into like breakfast, lunch, dinner, or just like one time eat watermelon?
01:27:46.000
So I'd have 100 ounces of juice all through the day after my workout.
01:27:52.000
Then at night, 6 p.m., I would have like a quarter of a watermelon I'd eat.
01:27:59.000
So how do you maintain your lean body mass with virtually no protein?
01:28:07.000
Yeah, so all my life, especially going to prison, I never believed in protein.
01:28:18.000
Everybody I grew up with was swole off eating a lot of carbs.
01:28:22.000
You know, and what happened was when Joe Weider got Arnold to promote this protein stuff, everybody believed it.
01:28:42.000
You know, it's like a gorilla or something just eating bananas or whatever, you know.
01:28:59.000
So when you're just consuming straight protein, guess what?
01:29:02.000
It got to reverse and break it down to amino acids.
01:29:09.000
And I didn't at the time, but once I went on watermelon, I'm like, oh, I've only sold BCAAs, amino acids, with my supplements.
01:29:20.000
And people still, you know, argue me up and down.
01:29:24.000
And, you know, you can research it and it'll tell you that amino acids convert into protein.
01:29:45.000
Oh, watermelon, bro, when I started it this time, I lost 10 pounds in two days.
01:30:28.000
I was like, look at the white girl with blue eyes and big booty.
01:30:52.000
Bro, all the base people are in Orange County, bro.
01:30:55.000
So I moved there because my business partner, Big Boy, Oh, shit.
01:31:21.000
It's like you get the perks of California without the loony lefties.
01:31:43.000
We just had a conversation about watermelons, right?
01:31:54.000
On some level, American food is poison, and that's cereal, steak, and eggs.
01:32:04.000
A secret message has been found from the future, from our future president.
01:32:18.000
Hey Myron, do you still plan on having Maven on the pod?
01:32:25.000
Y'all should cover Lamine Yamal for our Womanizer Wednesday, 17-year-old professional soccer player.
01:32:44.000
So the father says to his son, son, if you keep masturbating, you're going to go blind.
01:32:55.000
Not sure if you're aware from the brother, you, me, Muslim cleric from here in Western Sydney, has said P3Ds, killer prey.
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Pedos and killers who prey are better than law-abiding citizens who don't prey.
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Clayton Williams says, Big WFNF and to Cali Muscle, my pops and I used to watch you religiously back in the day, Hy-Fee Mud.
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Shout out to you, JTK. We are going to do after hours here in a little bit.
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Yeah, Kali, so real quick, YouTube and the future of Kali Muscle.
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So, yeah, I started doing educational videos because I learned that they make the most money.
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And right now I've been doing a series of the watermelon.
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So I compile the watermelon videos and whatnot.
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I help people blow up their social media, call over 100 guys a day.
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So I've been on Spaces, looking at Myron all day.
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Actually, we'll reveal that next week for you guys.
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Ever since I changed my life around, like, people, like, did your views go down or you lost your fan base?
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It actually went up quadruple since I turned a leaf with a health tip.
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Because you got to think, guys my age now, fat, out of shape, unhealthy, with health problems.
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Hey, niggas better to hope to get it this old nowadays.
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I'm like, when I meet somebody at 60, when I meet somebody at 60, I'm like, man, kudos, you're a blessing.
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See, I look old, so I think I already got there.
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But yeah, so I just, I want to live for the kids, man.
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That's why I do all this crazy dying in and fasting.
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Oh, if you put it in a calculator, I'll flip upside down.
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Cali Muscle on all those social media platforms, man.
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I think we went from your criminal past to how you turned your life around.
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And you're here in Florida for a bit, so we can do another one.
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You know, to have a legend in the house and have this conversation.
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We'll be back here with some lovely ladies, guys.
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And after hours, we're going to part three of the three-peat, a.k.a.
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the four-peat, because the other one's pre-recorded.