Fresh & Fit - Psychologist Exposes Dark Side Of Female Pyschology You NEED To Know!

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00:03:16.000 Orion Taraban of Psych Hacks, man.

00:03:18.000 Welcome to the podcast.

00:03:19.000 Welcome, man.

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00:03:31.000 Yeah.

00:03:32.000 I think you guys are handling it really well.

00:03:34.000 I think this could be an opportunity.

00:03:36.000 You reach millions of men.

00:03:38.000 I listened to your announcement yesterday, and I could see how moved you are by your mission to reach out to help improve people's lives.

00:03:46.000 And you have access to so many human beings on this planet.

00:03:50.000 And right now they're looking to you and you both can be a model for how you can bear up under adversity with dignity and patience.

00:03:59.000 And I didn't know much about your story and the fact that you were able to build this channel in less than three years.

00:04:07.000 I mean, even your haters must find that to be impressive.

00:04:10.000 And if you could do this from zero in three years, just think about how much you can do I know who you are.

00:04:26.000 I'm a big supporter of your content.

00:04:28.000 I like your content.

00:04:29.000 I've watched it.

00:04:30.000 One of my favorite things about you is that you use really good analogies to describe intersexual dynamics between the two genders.

00:04:37.000 And I was like, yeah, this guy just gets it, man.

00:04:38.000 This is awesome.

00:04:40.000 But I want the audience to kind of know your professional background and just let them know your credentials and a little bit about yourself.

00:04:47.000 Sure.

00:04:47.000 So my name is Orion.

00:04:49.000 I'm 40 years old.

00:04:50.000 I was born and raised in Las Vegas.

00:04:52.000 Psychology is actually my second or third career.

00:04:55.000 I got started as an actor.

00:04:57.000 I went to NYU, the Tisch School of the Arts, and I was a professional actor in New York City for about 11 years.

00:05:03.000 I toured around the world and did a lot of interesting things that way.

00:05:06.000 I decided I liked performing, but I didn't like being an actor, the lifestyle, so I decided to make a change, moved into psychology.

00:05:13.000 There's way more than you might think in common between acting and psychology.

00:05:19.000 Acting training was really good training for being a therapist.

00:05:22.000 I moved to the Bay Area and got my doctorate in clinical psychology, which took about seven years.

00:05:29.000 Since then, I've had a private practice.

00:05:31.000 I specialize in men's mental health, so all my clients are men.

00:05:34.000 And I started the Psych Hacks YouTube channel a little over two years ago, and we're closing it on 200,000 subscribers.

00:05:41.000 Nice.

00:05:41.000 Congratulations, man.

00:05:42.000 Yeah, it's picking up pretty good right now.

00:05:44.000 Yeah.

00:05:45.000 You said earlier that you didn't like the actor lifestyle.

00:05:49.000 What did you dislike about it the most?

00:05:51.000 Because a lot of people look at it like, wait, what are you talking about?

00:05:54.000 Wouldn't it be great to be running around, being models, getting money and being in movies and stuff like that?

00:05:59.000 What did you not like about it?

00:06:00.000 Well, for some people, that's an awesome lifestyle.

00:06:03.000 I had to be honest with myself.

00:06:04.000 I'm functionally an introvert.

00:06:06.000 I can turn it on and bring the razzle-dazzle when I need to.

00:06:10.000 But that kind of career, if you want to go to the highest levels, you always have to be on.

00:06:14.000 You have to be going to all the parties.

00:06:16.000 You have to be schmoozing.

00:06:17.000 Be social, yeah.

00:06:18.000 You don't get the jobs otherwise.

00:06:20.000 I mean, it's really about who you know and what you look like, obviously, in Hollywood.

00:06:26.000 So I just realized that I just wanted to act.

00:06:30.000 I just wanted to perform.

00:06:31.000 And I didn't have a lot of patience for all the parties and socializing.

00:06:34.000 And I knew that it was going to hamper my career in the long run.

00:06:36.000 Gotcha.

00:06:37.000 Okay.

00:06:38.000 You gotta play the game.

00:06:39.000 Yeah.

00:06:40.000 You enjoyed the acting, but you didn't like what was required to get the positions to do the acting, I guess.

00:06:45.000 No, I was naive.

00:06:46.000 When I first started out, I thought just because I was talented, I would make it.

00:06:49.000 Like a lot of young people.

00:06:51.000 Talent gets you so far, but it definitely doesn't get you all the way.

00:06:54.000 Alright, be honest, bro.

00:06:55.000 Do you have to sell your soul to make it in Hollywood now?

00:06:59.000 Would I do it?

00:06:59.000 No.

00:07:00.000 Do you have to?

00:07:01.000 Oh, I don't know.

00:07:02.000 I'm not a Hollywood expert.

00:07:03.000 So I think that you definitely need to know the right people in order to get certain jobs and to make certain contacts.

00:07:09.000 I mean, as an actor, you're actually the least powerful person on a stage or a set.

00:07:14.000 There's the producers, the casting directors, the directors, the owners of the theaters and the studios.

00:07:20.000 So, uh, a lot of actors don't have a lot of power, even though they're the most visible component of the production.

00:07:26.000 And obviously it takes a lot for productions to get off the ground.

00:07:28.000 It's not just the actors doing everything.

00:07:30.000 That makes sense.

00:07:31.000 Um, and can you tell the people a little bit more about you, like your educational background, uh, as far as like, uh, you said you went to, so you went, you did your undergrad at NYU and then you did, uh, you got your doctorate, uh, Yeah, I got a master's and a doctorate in the Bay Area.

00:07:44.000 I went to the California School of Professional Psychology where I earned both of those things.

00:07:47.000 I joined the faculty shortly after I graduated.

00:07:49.000 I taught there for a couple years.

00:07:51.000 I also taught math back at the City University of New York because I was also a teacher for 20 years.

00:07:56.000 That might be why I'm decent with the metaphors.

00:07:59.000 I learned a long time ago that part of good teaching is a little entertainment.

00:08:03.000 You have to get people engaged.

00:08:04.000 You have to keep their attention or else whatever information or knowledge you might have is just not going to be received.

00:08:11.000 Yeah.

00:08:11.000 It won't be properly conveyed because they might not be ready to receive it.

00:08:14.000 Edutainment is what they call it nowadays.

00:08:16.000 Yeah.

00:08:17.000 You have to be able to capture people's attention, for sure.

00:08:21.000 Attention is the conduit through which things enter into our consciousness, and if that's blocked or distracted for whatever reason, you're not going to get very far.

00:08:28.000 And then guys, also do me a favor.

00:08:29.000 We're live streaming this on YouTube, Twitter, Twitch, Facebook, and Rumble.

00:08:34.000 If you guys have questions for the show, send us a Rumble rant, or if I have a question for the doc, send us a Rumble rant, and we will definitely make sure that we, you know, answer the questions.

00:08:43.000 We actually have a professional in the house, so you guys can go ahead and get your questions answered.

00:08:48.000 And then, okay, and then can you explain to the audience real fast the difference between a psychologist versus a psychiatrist?

00:08:55.000 Yeah, I was confused about this before I got into the profession.

00:08:58.000 There's so many terms.

00:08:59.000 Psychologist, psychiatrist, therapist, psychotherapist.

00:09:03.000 Yeah.

00:09:07.000 Yeah.

00:09:29.000 And sometimes, like me, they go into private practice.

00:09:32.000 They go into psychotherapy.

00:09:33.000 The term psychotherapist is a meaningless term.

00:09:36.000 Anybody can call themselves a psychotherapist.

00:09:38.000 It doesn't have a legal basis.

00:09:39.000 But, like, you need to have a license to be a psychologist.

00:09:42.000 You need to have a license to be a psychiatrist.

00:09:44.000 These are, like, legal professions that require certain degrees and other trainings to...

00:09:48.000 Gotcha.

00:09:49.000 And what is the governing body overall, psychiatrists and psychologists, in the United States?

00:09:54.000 Is it, like, the American...

00:09:56.000 I think for psychiatrists, it'd be the AMA, which is the American Medical Association.

00:09:59.000 For psychologists, it's the APA, which is the American Psychological Association.

00:10:03.000 Okay.

00:10:03.000 And the two don't overlap at all?

00:10:06.000 No.

00:10:06.000 Two completely different governing bodies.

00:10:12.000 The governing bodies are completely different, but they're not so separate as I just suggested, partly because psychologists really, really, really want to be a science.

00:10:22.000 And for example, their diagnostic tools are based on, this is kind of in the weeds, but the DSM. AMA and APA, one is the American Medical Association.

00:10:32.000 That's where psychiatrists are under, and then American Psychologists Association.

00:10:36.000 You got it, exactly.

00:10:39.000 Psychologists get their diagnostic tools from psychiatrists, so there's a little bit of overlap with respect to diagnosis.

00:10:50.000 That psychologists basically use the definitions for mental illness that psychiatry has developed.

00:10:55.000 So let's say Dr.

00:10:57.000 Jordan Peterson, he doesn't fall under these because he's Canadian, right?

00:11:00.000 That's right.

00:11:00.000 So he's a whole different...

00:11:01.000 Different licensing body, yeah.

00:11:03.000 Yeah.

00:11:03.000 But he would be...

00:11:04.000 He's a psychologist in this.

00:11:08.000 So he can go into, just like you said before, when you become a psychologist, you can get into research, you can get into...

00:11:16.000 Academia, teaching.

00:11:17.000 Therapy, academia.

00:11:18.000 Okay.

00:11:19.000 And in your case, you have your private therapy practice that you do, and you still maintain, I'm assuming, right?

00:11:24.000 As well.

00:11:25.000 So what made you segue into the YouTube world?

00:11:29.000 How'd you get involved with that?

00:11:30.000 Sure.

00:11:31.000 So I had been working as a...

00:11:36.000 I've been a psychologist in private practice for about six years.

00:11:38.000 And as I said, I was specializing in men's mental health.

00:11:41.000 And I had a full practice and I felt like I was doing a lot of good.

00:11:43.000 Like I could see people were getting better as a consequence of their engagement with me.

00:11:47.000 Not always, but almost always.

00:11:49.000 And one of the things that...

00:11:52.000 It was very satisfying to do that, you know, for sure.

00:11:57.000 Yeah.

00:12:16.000 Maybe I could find some sort of platform, some sort of conduit through which I can reach all these other men.

00:12:22.000 Because if it works for these guys, it might work for all these other guys as well.

00:12:24.000 And so that was really my motivation, is to try to have a bigger platform so that to the extent that I was doing good, that good could reach more people.

00:12:34.000 The ultimate mission of the channel is to reduce human suffering.

00:12:37.000 Yeah.

00:12:39.000 So with that said, what would you say is the current state of men's mental health in the West?

00:12:47.000 You know, there's a lot of people always talk about mental health, mental health, but they tend to kind of forget the male perspective on it, right?

00:12:52.000 Because, you know, men are taught to be stoic, hold it in, you know, man up, etc.

00:12:57.000 Which, you know, we advocate here on this channel, especially in front of a woman, but, you know, obviously you should be able to open up and be able to deal with your problems with your brothers.

00:13:04.000 Yeah.

00:13:12.000 I think the state of men's mental health is pretty poor.

00:13:15.000 I think the state of mental health of human beings and their physical health on this planet is pretty bad right now.

00:13:20.000 Absolutely.

00:13:21.000 I think that stoicism gets a bad rap.

00:13:24.000 I remember when you came down yesterday and you broke the news to me about what was going on.

00:13:28.000 I noticed and I mentioned that you seem to be bearing up very well and I appreciated your stoicism and your eyes lit up.

00:13:36.000 Like there is definitely a time and a place to kind of bear your cross and to carry on.

00:13:42.000 Absolutely.

00:13:43.000 And the powers that be that want to demonize that or say that that's a component of toxic masculinity, that's just not true and that's not helpful for guys.

00:13:52.000 So when they say, men, go to therapy, I just want your opinion on this.

00:13:56.000 Does that actually work most of the time or is it more like a, you know, go deal with this and go over there, stay over there?

00:14:01.000 No, a lot of therapy doesn't work for guys.

00:14:04.000 And that's, I think, partly why they're under consumers of therapy.

00:14:08.000 Like, women go to therapists three to four times more often than men do.

00:14:13.000 They are by far the most significant consumers of psychotherapy.

00:14:18.000 I have my own pet theory for why this is.

00:14:21.000 So, let me just ask you guys, what is your, like, association with therapy?

00:14:27.000 What do you think happens in a therapy session?

00:14:29.000 Yeah.

00:14:30.000 Well, I've never had a therapy session, but what I would assume is...

00:14:33.000 Even better, like what's your imagination about it?

00:14:35.000 Yeah, so my imagination is you go in, you sit down, you lie on a couch like this, right?

00:14:40.000 And you're just like telling the therapist your problem.

00:14:43.000 And you know, you're just lying there and they're doodling in the back.

00:14:46.000 No, I'm just kidding, not doodling in the back.

00:14:47.000 But you get outside, they're listening to it, they're like, okay, yes, mm-hmm, all right, tell me more, etc.

00:14:52.000 And it's almost, I mean, it depends on the therapist.

00:14:56.000 Maybe they'll say, hey, you know, this is a solution to it.

00:14:59.000 Or, hey, let me refer you to a psychiatrist maybe so you can get some medication.

00:15:03.000 Or they're trying to get you to come back for more sessions.

00:15:07.000 I've always been under the idea that therapy, it's not in their best interest to fix you up because it's like, no, they want you to keep coming back.

00:15:18.000 Sure.

00:15:21.000 Though I do definitely think it has its place.

00:15:24.000 I don't know if it's a long-term solution to a long-term problem.

00:15:51.000 But I hear you.

00:15:52.000 There does seem to be an economic disincentive for therapists to, like, cure their patients because then it's just one less client, right?

00:15:59.000 Okay.

00:16:00.000 Your association is, like, perfect classical psychoanalytic.

00:16:04.000 The patient on the couch, the doctor with the notepad behind him, that's basically what Freud did.

00:16:09.000 And psychoanalytic psychologists still do that today.

00:16:12.000 And they don't really say that much.

00:16:13.000 They just say, mm-hmm, I see.

00:16:15.000 Tell me more.

00:16:16.000 Okay.

00:16:18.000 That's what Fresh does on dates.

00:16:19.000 That's what I do on dates, man.

00:16:20.000 Right on.

00:16:21.000 You don't want to talk too much on a first date.

00:16:23.000 You don't disabuse a woman of her fantasy of you.

00:16:25.000 That's why she's there.

00:16:26.000 Love you.

00:16:27.000 Absolutely.

00:16:28.000 So, and a lot of guys say, okay, I'm just going to lie there.

00:16:33.000 This guy's going to say, uh-huh, I see, and I'm going to pay him 200, 300 bucks.

00:16:36.000 How...

00:16:37.000 How is that going to help my problem?

00:16:39.000 That was the point, yeah.

00:16:40.000 I get you.

00:16:41.000 Now, why did this come to be?

00:16:43.000 This is my pet theory.

00:16:44.000 I'll be brief.

00:16:46.000 So, Freud was a Jewish psychiatrist.

00:16:51.000 He...

00:16:53.000 Not back in the day.

00:16:54.000 Back in the day, because of the antisemitism in Europe, he couldn't get clients.

00:16:58.000 No men would go to see him.

00:17:00.000 So he basically had, as his patients, the people that the institution didn't want to work with, which was actually mostly women. 0.97

00:17:07.000 And so most of Freud's clients, a lot of Freud's clients, were women.

00:17:11.000 And he was an entrepreneur.

00:17:13.000 He was an experimenter.

00:17:15.000 He was always trying new things.

00:17:16.000 And he had this one patient.

00:17:18.000 We know her as Anna Oh.

00:17:19.000 And she kept coming for a while and didn't really help her all that much. 0.86

00:17:22.000 And Freud was trying this, trying that, until one day she basically said, hey, listen, dude, just shut up. 0.98

00:17:27.000 Just shut up and let me talk. 0.96

00:17:30.000 And Freud was like, oh, okay, I can't see the harm of that. 0.98

00:17:34.000 Maybe I'll try this.

00:17:35.000 And so he just sat there quietly.

00:17:37.000 She talked for an hour, and at the end she said, ah, I feel so much better now.

00:17:42.000 And Freud was like, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

00:17:44.000 And thus the talking cure was born.

00:17:47.000 But this is a female or a feminine coping strategy. 1.00

00:17:52.000 Women tend to feel better when they talk about certain things. 0.97

00:17:56.000 Yeah.

00:17:57.000 When they get it out, it's like the act of talking about it is cathartic for them.

00:18:01.000 Men are more problem solving. 0.97

00:18:04.000 They don't understand how just talking and listening will help anyone because they see the problem as out there.

00:18:12.000 The problem is that I'm broke.

00:18:14.000 The problem is that I have no prospects with women.

00:18:16.000 The problem is...

00:18:18.000 I feel lonely.

00:18:19.000 Yeah.

00:18:19.000 Like, I need friends.

00:18:21.000 I need to work.

00:18:22.000 I need to get some game.

00:18:23.000 I need something in the external world.

00:18:26.000 Guys are more problem solutions.

00:18:28.000 I need a tangible solution, typically, to their problem, versus with women, it's more, I just want to be able to speak and get my emotions out there, and that will make me feel a lot better versus for men. 1.00

00:18:37.000 Exactly.

00:18:37.000 We call them problem solving versus emotional coping strategies, right?

00:18:41.000 Okay.

00:18:42.000 But here's the thing, is that that seemed to work for women. 1.00

00:18:45.000 Mm-hmm.

00:18:46.000 And Freud really ran with it.

00:18:47.000 And that became kind of the basis of psychoanalytic theory and psychotherapy for like 100 years afterwards.

00:18:55.000 There's still this association in 2023.

00:18:57.000 The therapist just sits there and scribbles and says, uh-huh, I see.

00:19:01.000 Thank you.

00:19:01.000 See you next week.

00:19:03.000 But that came from a very specific time and a very specific place.

00:19:07.000 And it seems to work for women. 1.00

00:19:09.000 And it doesn't really seem to work for men.

00:19:12.000 So, you know who comes to mind when you talk about therapy and men?

00:19:15.000 FouseyTube.

00:19:16.000 Yeah.

00:19:17.000 And I think he's a great creator.

00:19:18.000 Who?

00:19:19.000 FouseyTube.

00:19:19.000 He's like a YouTuber slash streamer now.

00:19:22.000 He streams more on cake.

00:19:24.000 But he's been in therapy for a while.

00:19:26.000 But I don't see a solution to his problems because what do they do in therapy for the most part?

00:19:30.000 Just talk about issues and...

00:19:32.000 To me, it's kind of like, does it really work for men?

00:19:35.000 Because I don't see it work for most men that go to therapy that I know.

00:19:37.000 Yeah.

00:19:38.000 Well, there's many different kinds of therapy.

00:19:40.000 So I call what I do therapeutic coaching, which falls under the rubric of, let's say, cognitive behavioral therapy, which has a very strong behavioral component.

00:19:47.000 My idea is that in order to feel better, you probably have to start doing something different.

00:19:52.000 And so between every session, there's therapeutic assignments or behavioral experiments.

00:19:56.000 The guy has to do something.

00:19:57.000 The improvement is going to happen outside of the therapy office.

00:20:01.000 And we'll see if That moves the ball a little further down the field.

00:20:05.000 If not, we fiddle with the knobs and we keep going until the guy's flying on his own and then we taper off.

00:20:10.000 Do other therapists take your more...

00:20:13.000 Because I would say that's a very practical and masculine way to help men solve what they might be going through.

00:20:20.000 Do a lot of other psychologists and therapists apply that self-accountability to their patients or clients?

00:20:29.000 It's hard to know.

00:20:30.000 I can't speak for all psychologists.

00:20:33.000 I do know that there does seem to be...

00:20:36.000 Sometimes I think therapy can kind of gaslight itself into thinking that it's more important than it really is.

00:20:42.000 I gave the client a safe space to reflect on his or her emotional state and to express...

00:20:53.000 Emotional support.

00:20:54.000 That does have its time and a place, but that's generally not going to solve anybody's problem, in my opinion, long term.

00:21:02.000 So, real quick.

00:21:04.000 So, if Be More Practical is going to help men in therapy, how about this?

00:21:09.000 What is the...

00:21:11.000 One solution you would say, I guess, for men to do rather than go to therapy?

00:21:15.000 Or do you still think therapy for some people is worth it?

00:21:18.000 Like, for example, let's say to go to you versus somebody in the industry that wants to just take their money.

00:21:23.000 What you do that makes you different from other people?

00:21:26.000 Sure, that's a great question.

00:21:27.000 One thing I tell people is reel out the confounds.

00:21:31.000 Like, try to take yourself as far as you can on your own before you enlist to help with a professional because best case scenario, you don't need that professional at a certain point.

00:21:39.000 So, Most people know in their heart of hearts the two or three things that they're doing that are really getting in their own way.

00:21:48.000 And it's a better idea to stop doing the two or three things that are really getting in your way than develop like ten new habits that are good.

00:21:56.000 Because the two or three things that are bad are probably more bad than the ten good things are good.

00:22:01.000 Let's say I'm lazy and I like watching corn.

00:22:07.000 I hear you.

00:22:09.000 I think I understand.

00:22:10.000 So, men have come to me for those reasons.

00:22:16.000 Laziness is tough.

00:22:18.000 Now, one thing that I might do if I was in a session with them is to begin to create some space.

00:22:22.000 If you're a lazy person, then there's nothing I can do about it.

00:22:25.000 It's like you're just lazy. 0.98

00:22:27.000 That's how you are.

00:22:28.000 That's how you think about it.

00:22:30.000 I can't change who you are intrinsically.

00:22:32.000 But maybe sometimes you fall into lazy behavior patterns.

00:22:35.000 Maybe you just let something slide.

00:22:38.000 Maybe you...

00:22:42.000 Mm-hmm.

00:23:01.000 Gotcha.

00:23:02.000 Does that make sense?

00:23:03.000 So I can think of, for example, let's say I need to go work on something, maybe a book or maybe, for example, a business.

00:23:11.000 But I play video games before I go work on a business.

00:23:13.000 Playing the video games, I'm like, I'm kind of lazy now.

00:23:15.000 So now I don't want to go work.

00:23:17.000 Sometimes that's part of the process.

00:23:18.000 I remember when I first wanted to get good at pickup, for example.

00:23:25.000 Yeah.

00:23:41.000 And I talked to nobody.

00:23:42.000 You know, I just had like a drink by myself one hour, drink by myself a second.

00:23:45.000 And I left with my tail between my legs. 0.99

00:23:47.000 And I went home and I felt like such a schmuck. 0.99

00:23:49.000 You know, I felt ashamed of myself. 0.99

00:23:52.000 I felt cowardly.

00:23:53.000 I didn't like how I felt.

00:23:56.000 But every Saturday I put that suit back on and I went out. 0.99

00:23:59.000 And then every Saturday I came home feeling like a schmuck. 0.98

00:24:01.000 Until that like ninth time in a row I went out. 0.98

00:24:04.000 That ninth time in a row I went out and I was sitting there by myself and I could feel the same thing was about to happen again.

00:24:09.000 And I saw this attractive woman from across the room and my mind said, okay, wait a minute, Orion.

00:24:16.000 You know what's going to happen if you don't talk to this woman. 0.99

00:24:19.000 With 100% certainty, you're going to go home and you're going to feel like a schmuck. 1.00

00:24:23.000 You're going to feel like a coward. 1.00

00:24:25.000 That's painful.

00:24:26.000 Whatever that woman could do to you is not as bad as what you're going to do to yourself if you don't do this. 0.98

00:24:33.000 And that was what changed the game for me.

00:24:36.000 So it had to get worse before it gets better.

00:24:39.000 So I've been there.

00:24:40.000 I've played the video games before I sat down to work on the book. 0.98

00:24:43.000 And I've done that enough times to know that when I do that, I feel like a schmuck. 0.94

00:24:47.000 I don't feel proud of myself at the end of the day. 0.98

00:24:49.000 I feel like I wasted a day of life.

00:24:52.000 And we only get so many good days of our lives, man.

00:24:55.000 We're here to get stuff done.

00:24:57.000 That's what life is all about.

00:24:59.000 So I'm hearing, it's okay to fail, but at some point, that failure needs to turn into like, oh, you know what?

00:25:05.000 I'm tired of this pain.

00:25:06.000 I need to make a change.

00:25:07.000 Yes.

00:25:07.000 And the problem why a lot of men don't get there is because they're failing and they're feeling the pain, but then they're anesthetizing themselves against that pain.

00:25:15.000 Mmm.

00:25:16.000 Through corn, or through drinking, or through getting high.

00:25:20.000 Video games.

00:25:21.000 Or through video games.

00:25:22.000 Smoke weed every day.

00:25:23.000 Or sometimes even more adaptively, they just do it through being hyper-concerned about making money.

00:25:31.000 They just become workaholics. 0.93

00:25:32.000 Now that's more adaptive than some of these other things I mentioned, but it's still kind of a way of anesthetizing them against their own pain.

00:25:38.000 And pain is your greatest teacher.

00:25:40.000 Pain is the gift that nobody wants.

00:25:42.000 Pain will motivate you to...

00:25:45.000 More than anything else.

00:25:46.000 People are much more like, they'll do so much more to avoid pain than they will to secure pleasure.

00:25:53.000 You know, and a controversial take, I've talked about this, you know, I talk about how my parents disciplined me when I was a kid growing up. 0.92

00:25:59.000 If I did something stupid, I was slapped.

00:26:01.000 And that negative reinforcement of pain would keep me from doing that undesirable behavior that my parents didn't want me to do, and it kept me straight in a straight line. 0.96

00:26:09.000 And people were like, oh, you shouldn't be hitting kids.

00:26:11.000 I mean, I think I turned out okay from it, because pain, like you said before, is a pretty...

00:26:15.000 Pretty good reinforcement that what you're doing is wrong and people try to avoid pain typically.

00:26:20.000 So if you're trying to avoid pain, maybe you should follow your parents' rules or at least not get caught.

00:26:26.000 There's a time and a place.

00:26:27.000 The line for child abuse is tissue damage.

00:26:30.000 Yeah, I'm not talking about beating. 0.83

00:26:31.000 Like, oh yeah, I'm going to attack him.

00:26:32.000 But like, you know, they'd slap me or whatever when I was a kid.

00:26:34.000 And I think I turned out okay for them.

00:26:36.000 Well, if a kid is about to run off into traffic and the mom pulls him back and she just says, you know, good boys don't do that.

00:26:43.000 The importance of the message gets lost on the child.

00:26:46.000 There has to be some emotional content in order for the child to understand that this is a very important lesson that needs to be learned.

00:26:52.000 It needs to be taken seriously.

00:26:53.000 This isn't a game.

00:26:54.000 Yeah.

00:26:57.000 You were talking about approach anxiety earlier with going up to women and talking to them.

00:27:02.000 Can you talk to us from a psychological perspective where that stems from?

00:27:06.000 Where approach anxiety comes from?

00:27:09.000 Why do you guys get that?

00:27:10.000 Because I'm sure a lot of you guys have got almost, I think between all the platforms here, almost 10,000 y'all watching right now between Rumble and YouTube.

00:27:16.000 And thank you guys.

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00:27:38.000 Sorry.

00:27:39.000 Approach anxiety.

00:27:40.000 A bunch of guys here in the chat.

00:27:41.000 You guys have all been there.

00:27:42.000 You're at the bar.

00:27:43.000 You're at the club.

00:27:43.000 Just like the story that you were describing.

00:27:45.000 You know, like, I'm going to go talk to girls.

00:27:46.000 I'm going to make it happen.

00:27:47.000 I'm going to get some phone numbers, etc.

00:27:49.000 And then that, you know, paralysis by analysis.

00:27:52.000 Oh, man, she's hot. 1.00

00:27:53.000 But oh, she's there with two other girls. 1.00

00:27:55.000 Are they her friends?

00:27:56.000 Oh, no.

00:27:56.000 There's a guy there.

00:27:57.000 Is she with them?

00:27:58.000 You know what?

00:27:58.000 I'm thinking I'm going to go.

00:27:59.000 No, no, no, I'm not.

00:28:00.000 You sit there.

00:28:01.000 You look around, etc.

00:28:02.000 So many guys.

00:28:05.000 I would argue that approach anxiety is probably the number one culprit for why so many guys suffer with women because they simply don't work the volume required to get the dating life that they want and it stems from approach anxiety.

00:28:24.000 Can you tell us from a professional perspective Where does that fear come from?

00:28:28.000 You do need some reps to get over it. 0.99

00:28:30.000 And when I used to go out, I had this rule.

00:28:32.000 So this might be a practical use to your viewers.

00:28:35.000 Guys, listen up.

00:28:35.000 That when I was going out to get numbers, I had a rule for myself that I had to approach within five seconds of seeing a woman that I felt authentically attracted to because I knew that if I hesitated more than five seconds, I was screwed.

00:28:49.000 Yeah.

00:28:49.000 I'm good to go.

00:29:12.000 If she doesn't want to play for whatever reason, she'll just kind of like look over here and hit the ball out of bounds and you can take your ball and go talk to some other woman. 1.00

00:29:19.000 It's not that big of a deal.

00:29:20.000 Like I've approached over a thousand women.

00:29:22.000 I've never had a drink thrown at me.

00:29:23.000 I've never been slapped.

00:29:24.000 I've never been yelled at.

00:29:26.000 I've never been called a creep.

00:29:28.000 Most women are actually, you can approach women in a way that leaves them feeling better as a consequence of the approach.

00:29:34.000 And a lot of women, even if, I mean, a lot of women said no, I have a boyfriend, wouldn't give me the numbers, just par for the course. 1.00

00:29:40.000 But most of them felt complimented by the approach.

00:29:45.000 How would you go about it where, you know, you walk up to them and, because it's a very delicate dance, right?

00:29:51.000 We've talked about this with Troy with Cold Approaching where you want to be able to come in and show the girl that you are interested from a romantic perspective without necessarily coming off as a weirdo while still illustrating some level of value and it's a very delicate dance and how to do that.

00:30:06.000 How would you do that?

00:30:07.000 Everyone's fear is like, I don't want a drink thrown on me or I don't want to be called a creep, etc.

00:30:12.000 That's what keeps so many guys paralyzed.

00:30:15.000 How would you go about doing it where you're able to still convey that attraction without coming off as needy, without coming off as weird, etc.?

00:30:22.000 Sure.

00:30:24.000 I talk about communicating sexual intent, which is something that I think you need to do in the first few minutes of a cold approach.

00:30:31.000 I mean, approaches don't have to last for very long.

00:30:33.000 They can be three minutes, five minutes max.

00:30:36.000 And within that first three minutes, I have to make it clear that I'm not here as a friend.

00:30:40.000 I'm not here as like a fellow citizen.

00:30:41.000 I'm here because I like what I see.

00:30:44.000 So sometimes it's a compliment on her appearance, like the effort that she put in, as opposed to, I like your eyes.

00:30:50.000 It's like...

00:30:56.000 Yeah.

00:31:08.000 Alex Leon, who was on my show the other day, he's on the Naturals Lifestyles.

00:31:11.000 Maybe you've heard of that.

00:31:12.000 He talked about how just holding eye contact a little bit longer than is socially acceptable already communicates that there's something else that we're about here.

00:31:23.000 So doesn't that be done with words, which is great because that's why people go to Ibiza.

00:31:26.000 Not everyone speaks Spanish, but they still find a way to get together and hook up.

00:31:30.000 Yeah.

00:31:31.000 Yeah.

00:31:31.000 I mean, we're in Colombia and we're talking with girls and we don't speak Spanish, but you know, if you're attractive and body language says so much, right?

00:31:37.000 Thankfully we have the advent of Google translate, et cetera, but a lot can be done with just maybe some hand gestures, a little bit of broken Spanish and, you know, just some eye contact and you can like, you know, convey immediately.

00:31:49.000 Hey, I would argue she knows what's up even sooner when you don't have the language, when you have that language barrier.

00:31:55.000 Yeah.

00:31:55.000 Right.

00:31:56.000 Can I talk about something?

00:31:57.000 Please.

00:31:57.000 This might be really interesting.

00:31:59.000 So I mentioned how I started as an actor and how that actually really informed my work as a psychologist.

00:32:04.000 So I went to school of the arts and I went to the experimental theater wing.

00:32:09.000 The entire first semester of my acting training was spent playing one game.

00:32:14.000 That's it.

00:32:15.000 We played this one game for like four months straight.

00:32:18.000 That's all we did.

00:32:19.000 And I've since realized that this game is the fundamental game of human interaction.

00:32:22.000 It's very simple.

00:32:24.000 It's called the game of please no.

00:32:26.000 There's always two people who play.

00:32:29.000 I'll start.

00:32:30.000 I can only say the word please.

00:32:33.000 You go second.

00:32:34.000 You can either say yes or no, and you have to start with no.

00:32:38.000 And the goal of the game is for me to get your no into a yes using only the word please.

00:32:45.000 I think?

00:33:01.000 Duration.

00:33:02.000 Like, you learn how to communicate non-verbally.

00:33:06.000 And you learn to listen really well to people.

00:33:10.000 Because the way someone tells you no always offers a clue as to what it would take to get them to say yes.

00:33:16.000 You just need to kind of listen with a third ear.

00:33:19.000 Yeah.

00:33:20.000 Wow.

00:33:21.000 That's really good.

00:33:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:22.000 That's actually a good point.

00:33:25.000 So let's head to Rumble.

00:33:26.000 We've got a bunch of chats here and new members joining rapidly.

00:33:29.000 So shout out to you guys in the chat.

00:33:30.000 Yeah.

00:33:31.000 Guys, so actually, you know what?

00:33:33.000 We'll stay on YouTube a little bit longer. 0.98

00:33:34.000 Let's kill the Facebook, Twitch, and Twitter.

00:33:37.000 Guys, come on over to YouTube or Rumble, rumble.com slash fresh and fit.

00:33:42.000 And then we'll go over and we'll read the Rumble rants.

00:33:45.000 Uh-huh.

00:33:47.000 Oh, because the rants are crazy?

00:33:48.000 Yeah.

00:33:49.000 Let's go to Rumble.

00:33:50.000 Okay, okay.

00:33:50.000 All right, yeah.

00:33:52.000 So the rants, I guess, are crazy.

00:33:53.000 Guys, come on over to rumble, rumble.com slash freshafitguys, and we're going to read some of your guys' rants over there, because you guys sent in some crazy stuff, so it'll be funny.

00:34:05.000 Let's go over.

00:34:07.000 It's funny, you said when you hear no, it doesn't always mean like no in that context.

00:34:12.000 So for example, let's say you're on a date with a chick, right? 0.97

00:34:15.000 She's like, oh no, when you're touching like her body, she's like, oh, you're silly, no. 0.73

00:34:19.000 But she doesn't mean no as in like, no, she's saying like, oh, I'm just being flirty and saying no, like playing around.

00:34:26.000 So no, With intent, or for example, assertiveness does mean no, but if it's playful, if it's like banter back and forth, then it's more fun.

00:34:35.000 That's right, because every word actually has two dimensions.

00:34:38.000 There's a semantic meaning of a word, and there's the emotional content of the word.

00:34:42.000 And containers contain anything that fit in them.

00:34:46.000 So a word can contain any emotion you put in it.

00:34:48.000 Like, you can say the word please seductively.

00:34:50.000 You can say the word please threateningly.

00:34:53.000 You can say the word please submissively.

00:34:55.000 You can say the word please guiltily.

00:34:58.000 You can say the word please joyfully.

00:35:00.000 Like, there's so many different ways that you can say every single word.

00:35:05.000 That's the information contained in that word.

00:35:07.000 And not only that, I would argue, this comes from anecdotal data from my experience, right?

00:35:14.000 The way you say things to women matters a lot over what is said to them.

00:35:20.000 You would know.

00:35:21.000 Yeah.

00:35:21.000 I can't tell you, you know, so, man, we've interviewed well over 2,000 women now at this point.

00:35:28.000 They're always hung up in the way I tell them pretty irrefutable truths versus the truth itself, the information.

00:35:38.000 And what you just said about the way things are said, etc., is a big thing for women. 0.99

00:35:43.000 They tend to communicate on context quite a bit.

00:35:45.000 It's huge.

00:35:46.000 And I think that's actually true for all people.

00:35:49.000 Like, if I were to get in front of a crowded theater and say, all right, everybody...

00:35:53.000 It's time to panic.

00:35:54.000 The theater is on fire.

00:35:56.000 We're all gonna die.

00:35:57.000 Like, no one is going to be jumping out of their seats.

00:36:00.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:36:00.000 Because my affect doesn't match what I'm saying.

00:36:02.000 So that's true for all people.

00:36:03.000 But I think it is more true for women.

00:36:05.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:36:06.000 And this is where guys sometimes get into trouble, is once they get emotionally triggered, all they're doing is generally listening to the content.

00:36:16.000 Or at least they're listening more to the emotional content than to the semantic information that you're providing.

00:36:21.000 Yeah.

00:36:24.000 Can I talk about the approach anxiety?

00:36:26.000 Because I didn't really answer that question.

00:36:27.000 So why do guys have approach anxiety?

00:36:29.000 I think that there are two ways that we can approach this idea.

00:36:32.000 One is from the perspective of evolutionary psychology.

00:36:35.000 We know that women are the gatekeepers of sex, and sex is life. 1.00

00:36:39.000 On some level, from an evolutionary standpoint, it's not just enough for the individual to not die.

00:36:45.000 That individual has to be able to reproduce.

00:36:47.000 Mm-hmm.

00:36:48.000 They call that sexual selection, right?

00:36:51.000 Now, when a woman says no to a man's sexual advances, for whatever reason, deep in his evolutionary programming, this woman is basically saying, I don't think that you are fit to reproduce. 0.58

00:37:05.000 Bam.

00:37:06.000 And therefore, I think it's okay for you to go extinct.

00:37:10.000 Like, the threat of extinction lurks in a deep unconscious cellular level in men's unconscious because they understand what is really at stake.

00:37:21.000 It's not just...

00:37:22.000 It's just sex.

00:37:23.000 It's just relationships.

00:37:24.000 But on a deeper level, since sex is life, it's also kind of connected to life and death and the survival or the perpetuation of one's genes into perpetuity.

00:37:32.000 Does that make sense?

00:37:33.000 Man, that was literally one of the best explanations for it.

00:37:37.000 I mean, yeah, it's literally a fear of you being told that your lineage does not deserve to continue.

00:37:44.000 That's right.

00:37:44.000 Is what it is.

00:37:45.000 And that's like a deep-rooted biological fear.

00:37:47.000 Very few guys are consciously thinking that.

00:37:49.000 That's why I keep saying it's deeply unconscious.

00:37:52.000 It's maybe in our biological heritage. 0.97

00:37:55.000 She's saying, no, nigga. 0.98

00:37:57.000 No! 0.99

00:37:58.000 Would you say...

00:38:04.000 Because I've always, like, asked women this, like, what are human beings put on Earth to do, right?

00:38:08.000 And, you know, sometimes they say, a career!

00:38:10.000 Have fun!

00:38:11.000 I'm like, well, no, the real reason we're here from a biological, raw standpoint, right, outside of the modern conventions that we enjoy today, is to reproduce.

00:38:20.000 And I think everything that we do in life, etc., typically is tied to that ability to reproduce at some point.

00:38:28.000 Whether you're a man and you're creating excess resources, or you're a woman and you're keeping yourself... 0.99

00:38:43.000 We're good to go.

00:39:02.000 I call these the three Ps of rejection.

00:39:05.000 People think it's painful, it's personal, and it's permanent.

00:39:08.000 And rejection needn't be any one of those three things.

00:39:11.000 It's just information that right now you have...

00:39:14.000 What are those three Ps again? 0.58

00:39:15.000 Personal?

00:39:16.000 Personal, painful, and permanent.

00:39:18.000 Really good.

00:39:19.000 Okay.

00:39:19.000 I mean, think about it.

00:39:20.000 It certainly can't be personal.

00:39:21.000 The woman has spent, what, all of... 1.00

00:39:23.000 30 seconds.

00:39:23.000 She don't know you.

00:39:24.000 Yeah.

00:39:24.000 Two minutes with you.

00:39:25.000 It can't be a personal rejection.

00:39:26.000 It could be a marketing problem, like how you're dressed or how you're presenting yourself in that moment.

00:39:31.000 It could be that she's just not into your look.

00:39:33.000 Okay.

00:39:34.000 Fair enough.

00:39:34.000 She might have had a bad day.

00:39:35.000 She might have. 0.60

00:39:36.000 You never know.

00:39:36.000 What was the last one?

00:39:38.000 Permanent.

00:39:38.000 Yeah.

00:39:39.000 That just because I failed now that I'm going to continue to fail indefinitely.

00:39:43.000 And that's just not true.

00:39:45.000 So once you get rejected about 100 times, it's just information.

00:39:50.000 It's just, I don't want to play.

00:39:51.000 It's like, okay, no problem.

00:39:53.000 If you watch kids on the playground, they'll go to one kid, hey, you want to play Foursquare?

00:39:57.000 And they'll say, no, I'm playing this.

00:39:59.000 The kid doesn't just like...

00:40:00.000 Collapse and cry.

00:40:02.000 He just says, goes to say, you want to play four square?

00:40:04.000 And he finds somebody until, yeah, okay, I'll play with you.

00:40:06.000 And they go run off and play four square.

00:40:08.000 And that's why you need to have that abundance mindset because one girl telling you no isn't in the world because it's not permanent.

00:40:14.000 Not at all.

00:40:15.000 But she might say yes.

00:40:15.000 Yeah.

00:40:16.000 And not only that, I think a lot of guys that might not be in this space or not understand the true psyche of female nature, they don't understand that.

00:40:24.000 Number one, it's a numbers game.

00:40:25.000 It's a volume game.

00:40:26.000 And you're probably going to get rejected better than 90% of the time.

00:40:30.000 Like 10% of guys, men that close 10% are like considered gods, right?

00:40:35.000 So rejection is going to come.

00:40:36.000 And the other thing too, I think, and I want to get your take on this, Doc.

00:40:41.000 Guys tend to personalize it, like you said before, right?

00:40:43.000 That the girl rejected him or whatever, but a girl can reject you because she just doesn't feel good that day.

00:40:48.000 Maybe she's going through something.

00:40:49.000 Maybe she literally just got off a phone call or whatever, and if you had talked to that girl maybe 20 minutes prior or another day, she would have given you a chance.

00:40:56.000 A lot of the times, it's not even you.

00:40:57.000 It's the person themselves that has something going on.

00:41:00.000 Because since women are typically more... 1.00

00:41:03.000 I want to get your take on women and emotion, et cetera, as well.

00:41:06.000 But since women are more emotionally inclined in their thought process and their decision making, they might reject you off of things that have nothing to do with you. 1.00

00:41:14.000 Well, that's certainly true.

00:41:16.000 And rejection can occur throughout a relationship.

00:41:19.000 Like a rejection can happen when you cold approach a woman, but a rejection could also happen after you've been out a couple of times and you text, hey, how was your week?

00:41:25.000 What are you doing?

00:41:25.000 Good point.

00:41:26.000 Now, this is why I generally recommend that men, once they've established an emotional connection, they don't pursue.

00:41:33.000 Because you don't really know where she's at emotionally whenever you send that text into the blue.

00:41:39.000 She could be having a bad day and The way that emotions work is they color our perceptions.

00:41:45.000 They switch our memory.

00:41:46.000 They're full body, full psyche experiences.

00:41:49.000 And you experience everything through the lens of that emotion once it becomes emotionally active, right?

00:41:53.000 So if she's having a bad day, she sees your text, ah, this dude again, blowing up my phone.

00:41:59.000 Misogony!

00:42:01.000 So, it's much better to wait, if you can, for the woman to reach out because pretty much, regardless of the context or the pretext, when a woman reaches out to you out of the blue, she's basically saying, I've been missing you.

00:42:15.000 I want to see you.

00:42:16.000 I miss your presence.

00:42:17.000 It's like, If you respond to her then and you begin to communicate with her then, it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

00:42:22.000 You're kind of guaranteed a yes in that place.

00:42:24.000 Which is if you're just throwing darts blindly at the board, you don't really know where she's at emotionally whenever you reach out to her, especially in the early stages of the courtship process.

00:42:33.000 It's funny because we use that a lot too.

00:42:34.000 For example, let's say we go on a date with a girl, right? 0.77

00:42:36.000 We have a good time, good experience. 0.98

00:42:38.000 Let's say we smash her. 1.00

00:42:39.000 We didn't smash. 0.91

00:42:39.000 It doesn't really matter. 0.91

00:42:40.000 But we won't text her back the next day.

00:42:42.000 No.

00:42:43.000 She has to do it first.

00:42:44.000 Yeah.

00:42:45.000 Sure.

00:42:45.000 So I have a rule about that where after I see a woman, I wait six days until the next contact.

00:42:51.000 Usually I don't have to wait that long.

00:42:52.000 Usually they reach out to me before then.

00:42:54.000 But if after six days go by, I will send what I call the courtesy text and I will reach out and say, hey, how are you going?

00:43:00.000 And based on her response, I'll either plan another date or kick the can down the road.

00:43:04.000 Typically they ask the question, how's your day going?

00:43:06.000 Or what are you up to?

00:43:07.000 Or they say, oh, I had a fun time last night.

00:43:09.000 Can I see you?

00:43:10.000 Typically.

00:43:10.000 Yeah.

00:43:11.000 You made a video that men need to be the adored.

00:43:16.000 And I thought that was a fantastic video.

00:43:19.000 Women need to be the adorer and men need to be the adored. 1.00

00:43:22.000 But we live in a society where we adore the women and not the other way around. 1.00

00:43:25.000 And I've talked about this ad nauseum on my pod as well, that women need to chase a man's validation and never the other way around. 0.67

00:43:32.000 Can you talk about it from a psychological perspective?

00:43:35.000 Because we kind of just touched on it now.

00:43:37.000 Why men need to focus on being the adored and the women need to be the adorer? 1.00

00:43:42.000 Sure.

00:43:42.000 So it's cool that you watched my episodes, Myron.

00:43:44.000 Of course, man.

00:43:44.000 That's awesome.

00:43:45.000 I got more questions on your stuff, too.

00:43:47.000 I did my research.

00:43:47.000 Cool.

00:43:48.000 Well, you can learn more about this.

00:43:50.000 I did an episode called The Balance of Attraction.

00:43:51.000 Let me start there, which is basically like the axiom is no two people can like each other exactly the same amount.

00:43:58.000 Like that is impossible, which means that in any relationship, one person likes the other person more and the other person likes the other person less.

00:44:05.000 It's inevitable.

00:44:07.000 Like sometimes that can change, that can go up and down.

00:44:10.000 There are different gaps and things like that, but you can't ever be permanently equal.

00:44:15.000 This person is the adorer, this person is the adored.

00:44:19.000 There's actually pros and cons to both positions.

00:44:22.000 One position isn't necessarily better than the other.

00:44:25.000 And most people, not just women, most men and women want to be the adorer.

00:44:32.000 People don't think that they do, but they want to be the adorer because the adorer gets to be with the one they love and what better experience is that?

00:44:40.000 They're the one who get to have the emotional experience in the relationship.

00:44:44.000 They get to wonder about what that person is doing when they're not around.

00:44:47.000 They need to get excited when their phone rings and that person is on the phone.

00:44:50.000 Or, what's going on?

00:44:52.000 I'm nervous that he hasn't called or she hasn't texted.

00:44:55.000 I think?

00:45:17.000 But let's put it from the woman's perspective.

00:45:18.000 A woman might chase after a guy who kind of doesn't really care about her, kind of doesn't, treats her like an option, not really a priority. 0.89

00:45:25.000 And then she's eventually like, oh, this is, I am tired of this.

00:45:28.000 I'm just going to go find some other guy.

00:45:30.000 And so she finds some other guy who dotes on her completely.

00:45:33.000 Now the roles have switched.

00:45:35.000 She's the adored and he's the adorer.

00:45:37.000 And Yeah.

00:45:50.000 Yeah.

00:45:51.000 Yeah.

00:46:00.000 And so a lot of the value that they derive from relationships is the emotional experience.

00:46:05.000 I think that high value guys, to the extent that they're successful with men, they can do two things.

00:46:11.000 It's what they can do for women with respect to resources and lifestyle, and what they can do to women with respect to the tingles and emotional experience.

00:46:21.000 And so best if you can do both at the same time.

00:46:24.000 Yeah, then you're unstoppable.

00:46:25.000 Right?

00:46:26.000 Yeah.

00:46:26.000 But it's hard for women to be the adored because it's kind of just you have to sit there and you don't really feel anything.

00:46:37.000 A lot of people say when they get that, yeah, he's a nice guy, but I just felt something was missing.

00:46:42.000 Yeah, the chemistry.

00:46:43.000 The chemistry wasn't there.

00:46:45.000 Exactly.

00:46:47.000 And when the women say that nine out of ten times, that means the guy probably pedestalized her to some degree.

00:46:52.000 She feels as though she's better than him.

00:46:53.000 And it's her nonchalant way of saying, hey, you're nice and everything else like that, but I just wasn't feeling it.

00:47:01.000 And people get mad at me for saying this, but I've said that women typically tend to be terrible people when they have the leverage. 1.00

00:47:06.000 And what I mean by terrible people is like...

00:47:08.000 They're not going to respect you to the same extent.

00:47:10.000 You're not going to get the best out of her because you're not getting an emotional investment.

00:47:13.000 And to get the best out of a woman, unfortunately, you need to get an emotional investment. 0.99

00:47:17.000 And I don't think a lot of guys understand that or anything just by me giving her all this attention.

00:47:21.000 And that's a great point that you made.

00:47:23.000 The adored, a lot of the times, doesn't feel that.

00:47:26.000 They don't feel much of anything.

00:47:28.000 It's like, somebody doesn't call, it's like, I wasn't thinking about that person anyway, so it's no skin off my back.

00:47:33.000 So they have more power, they have more control.

00:47:35.000 So that's the pros of being the adored, but they don't have the emotional experience.

00:47:42.000 And for the women, they need that more.

00:47:45.000 I agree, yeah.

00:47:48.000 So from a psychological perspective, how much more emotionally driven are women than men?

00:47:56.000 And their pursuit of relationships and their decision making.

00:48:00.000 We always come to this general idea that women are more emotional, men are more rational.

00:48:05.000 Can we go into a little bit more detail on that and women's yearn and need for an emotional connection so it's a really hammering home for the audience that you need to stimulate that?

00:48:15.000 Yeah, it's really hard to know deep down.

00:48:17.000 Men definitely have emotions.

00:48:19.000 Yeah, of course.

00:48:21.000 We're often socialized not to express them and oftentimes that stoic If suppression is adaptive, like it's something that we should do, I think it generally is a good thing.

00:48:32.000 So it's hard to say deep down who is more emotional.

00:48:36.000 Women are certainly acculturated to be more emotionally expressive than men, but that doesn't necessarily mean that their emotional experience is more intense or varied than men's are, per se.

00:48:46.000 Would you say emotions, for them, is a much more important...

00:48:51.000 How do I say this?

00:48:52.000 Ingredients in the recipe of attraction than it is for men.

00:48:54.000 They need to be more emotionally invested in that relationship than the man for the relationship to stick through and last long.

00:49:02.000 I think so.

00:49:04.000 This is kind of more based take care.

00:49:08.000 I would argue, you said adore and adoree, right?

00:49:12.000 That the guy, if he's like a player or wants to have that multiple connection with girls, has to go back and forth between both places.

00:49:21.000 And if you can do that successfully, he can capture her heart and her emotions, but at the same time, come back to being that guy that's just like stoic.

00:49:29.000 Oh, you're saying so he goes back and forth between being the adored and then adoring her, but when you adore her, it's got to be in short bursts.

00:49:36.000 You're giving her scraps. 0.98

00:49:38.000 Back and forth, back and forth, and then it's like, alright, I'm chilling.

00:49:42.000 You put her in the adored situation for a very small period of time, and then you immediately take back the frame, and you become the adored.

00:49:48.000 Exactly.

00:49:49.000 But that's an advanced level of base game you gotta have.

00:49:51.000 That could work.

00:49:52.000 I think men are generally better at compartmentalizing than women are, and I think to be a player, you do have to compartmentalize. 0.96

00:49:58.000 That's true.

00:49:58.000 That's a very good analogy there with the door-and-dory.

00:50:01.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:50:02.000 And then, that's a good point that you made.

00:50:05.000 Can you speak to that a little bit more, that players have to be able to compartmentalize?

00:50:09.000 Well, you got to keep your story straight.

00:50:11.000 That's the hardest part, bro.

00:50:15.000 Real quick, we'll take a quick break here and read some of these rants because I know you guys have been waiting.

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00:50:26.000 I still got a bunch of questions here, man.

00:50:27.000 So we're going to hold them captive here.

00:50:30.000 So I'm going to read a couple of these rants.

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00:51:23.000 Yep.

00:51:24.000 Pastor Walter Weeks.

00:51:25.000 And yes, I told her I got a girl.

00:51:26.000 I love y'all.

00:51:27.000 I learned how to be honest. 1.00

00:51:28.000 Even told my girl I can't be lying and fuck one girl. 1.00

00:51:30.000 I used to lie. 0.99

00:51:30.000 Now I'm truthful to them. 0.99

00:51:31.000 She's very submissive.

00:51:32.000 And listen.

00:51:33.000 There you go.

00:51:34.000 Oh! 0.60

00:51:35.000 With honesty.

00:51:36.000 With women. 0.98

00:51:37.000 Keeping it real.

00:51:38.000 Okay.

00:51:38.000 It does help.

00:51:40.000 Passer Walter Weeks.

00:51:41.000 I went out with this girl and don't like y'all. 1.00

00:51:44.000 Last night took her out to eat and to a hookah lounge and fuck her after she texted her. 1.00

00:51:48.000 If I got home at 2am I should wait for another text or text her. 1.00

00:51:51.000 Bro, text her, bro.

00:51:53.000 Oh, that don't like y'all.

00:51:55.000 Well, for one, I mean, her liking us is relevant to your situation, bro.

00:52:01.000 I mean, you're just trying to smash, so who cares?

00:52:04.000 Yeah, it doesn't matter, bro.

00:52:06.000 Most girls are not going to like the type of stuff that we say, guys.

00:52:10.000 See, they like us until they meet us. 0.96

00:52:12.000 It's kind of like, you see a clip, oh, they're misogynist, and they meet us and it's like, damn, they're actually pretty cool. 0.98

00:52:17.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:52:19.000 Realm goes, keep your heads up, man.

00:52:21.000 It won't be easy, but we need to build another platform eventually that can rival YouTube.

00:52:24.000 You have my support, and I'm sure many more.

00:52:26.000 Thank you so much, Real Romeo.

00:52:27.000 It's a good concept, but yeah.

00:52:30.000 Prince of Texas goes, as-salamu alaykum, God bless.

00:52:33.000 Don't let them get you down.

00:52:34.000 You will be golden IA. I appreciate that.

00:52:36.000 Come be me!

00:52:37.000 Built different consent.

00:52:38.000 Started to own company, a credit score from 5704 in one year.

00:52:42.000 Keep it up, FNF. Good job, bro.

00:52:43.000 That's what we're talking about.

00:52:44.000 Excellent score.

00:52:45.000 Keep it the good work.

00:52:46.000 Gentlemen, they'll never be able to cancel you. 0.90

00:52:48.000 Chris is still a bum. 0.95

00:52:49.000 He definitely is still a bum.

00:52:50.000 Yeah, where is he? 0.95

00:52:50.000 He's being a bum. 0.95

00:52:52.000 A&P made a video about us, surprisingly, to turn off comments.

00:52:55.000 What that should tell you.

00:52:55.000 I wonder why.

00:52:56.000 Yeah, they're probably in there editing comments and making it look a certain way.

00:53:00.000 But, dude, I think the mask is off now at this point that they don't offer value.

00:53:04.000 You know what I mean?

00:53:05.000 And they're not saving no lives.

00:53:06.000 We are.

00:53:07.000 The real ones, no.

00:53:07.000 Yeah, dude.

00:53:08.000 Right now, in the past 53 minutes, we've provided more value with Psychax than they've provided probably in the past fucking year. 0.95

00:53:15.000 Even I'm learning. 0.96

00:53:16.000 Yeah.

00:53:17.000 Madara, so thank you so much, though.

00:53:19.000 I appreciate that.

00:53:20.000 Marriage, cause, divorce.

00:53:21.000 Based on our understanding of human psychology, do you think a traditional 50-year marriage is too long, stable, boring, unnatural, and unrealistic for most millennials?

00:53:28.000 Gen Z. That's a very good question, actually. 1.00

00:53:32.000 It's tough.

00:53:33.000 People are living a long time.

00:53:35.000 And a lot of our romanticization of long-term relationships is based on, okay, there's three guys in this village.

00:53:43.000 Two of them are kind of stinky and old, so I can help you survive the winter.

00:53:47.000 You might as well stay with me. 0.85

00:53:49.000 Divorce was non-existent or highly stigmatized.

00:53:53.000 I don't think that people necessarily were happier just because they were staying married longer.

00:53:58.000 My grandparents got divorced in their 60s.

00:54:01.000 That's when my grandmother said that her life began.

00:54:06.000 So let's not necessarily romanticize previous generations.

00:54:10.000 I do think that there might be I mean, clearly the traditional institution of marriage isn't working for a lot of people.

00:54:21.000 I mean, 40% of first marriages end in divorce, 55% of marriages overall end in divorce.

00:54:26.000 Those are absolutely abysmal statistics.

00:54:29.000 It would be very, very difficult to motivate a rational person, especially a rational man, to move into marriage given some of the incentives and the laws in place with respect to that institution.

00:54:41.000 So I think that we can approach different ways of partnering.

00:54:45.000 I think that's kind of one of the Opportunities of this day and age is that we're kind of liberating ourselves from tradition in a lot of ways, but we don't really have anything better yet.

00:54:57.000 And so we're kind of in this in-between state.

00:55:00.000 There's a lot of confusion.

00:55:01.000 There's a lot of uncertainty.

00:55:03.000 But sometimes things have to fall apart before other things can be built.

00:55:07.000 And I don't see why we can't have different modes of relating that work for different types of folks that still meet the needs of both men and women.

00:55:16.000 Interesting.

00:55:16.000 Okay.

00:55:17.000 Good question, yeah.

00:55:19.000 We got here...

00:55:20.000 Can I say one thing about this?

00:55:22.000 Where I got this idea, there was this woman I read, she talked about how, I think it was in traditional Nigerian culture, there were 13 different forms of marriage in that culture.

00:55:36.000 Like, it wasn't just one-size-fits-all.

00:55:38.000 There were 13 civilly-recognized unions.

00:55:41.000 Really?

00:55:42.000 Yeah.

00:55:42.000 Wow.

00:56:08.000 What would some of those relationship dynamics be like?

00:56:11.000 Would it be like one is where a guy has a bunch of different wives? 1.00

00:56:14.000 Sure.

00:56:15.000 That's one of them.

00:56:16.000 Maybe the other way around, polygamy versus polyamory, all that other stuff.

00:56:20.000 Would that be what it is?

00:56:21.000 I didn't see any polyandry in that one, but polygamy was one of them. 0.92

00:56:26.000 Another one had to do with...

00:56:38.000 Oh, wow.

00:56:43.000 Okay.

00:56:53.000 Okay.

00:56:54.000 Wow.

00:56:54.000 Okay.

00:56:55.000 That's pretty complex.

00:56:56.000 Yeah.

00:56:56.000 And I guess they probably had these relationships set up in a certain way to benefit that specific society, I guess.

00:57:04.000 Exactly.

00:57:05.000 Which kind of makes sense.

00:57:06.000 Why not tailor the relationships to the people in the society as opposed to saying, no, it's just this forever for everybody.

00:57:14.000 And if you can't do it, then there's something wrong with you.

00:57:17.000 Interesting.

00:57:18.000 Okay.

00:57:20.000 That's different.

00:57:21.000 Yeah.

00:57:22.000 I have enough families here to stay.

00:57:23.000 Absolutely, man.

00:57:24.000 Thank you so much.

00:57:25.000 We got marriage-caused divorce based on understanding of human psychology.

00:57:29.000 Oh, I read that one.

00:57:31.000 From marriage-caused divorce.

00:57:33.000 And then another one.

00:57:34.000 Do women have healthier and more logical expectations of marriage, i.e. 1.00

00:57:38.000 it's a short-term thing and filing for divorce is fine once they have achieved their goals such as diamond ring house kids?

00:57:45.000 So he's saying, do women have healthier and more logical expectations of marriage?

00:57:51.000 What would your take be on that?

00:57:53.000 Sure.

00:57:53.000 So you mentioned a few minutes ago about men are rational and women are emotional.

00:57:58.000 Yeah.

00:57:58.000 I don't know, man.

00:57:59.000 It's like, if you observe the way that women interact in the sexual marketplace, I don't see that they're irrational.

00:58:06.000 Okay.

00:58:06.000 So one of my principles is that fouling is part of the game.

00:58:09.000 Like, imagine playing a basketball game and you were committed to never making a foul.

00:58:15.000 It'd be very hard to be competitive.

00:58:17.000 It'd be very hard to win.

00:58:18.000 And the idea here is that you foul strategically and intentionally in the service of your ultimate goals, the win, right?

00:58:24.000 Now, if we remove all moral judgment from what we see in the sexual marketplace, we can see that a lot of what women do is rational. 0.99

00:58:34.000 It's like when I'm young and hot, when I have the highest sexual marketplace value, I'm going to prioritize other things.

00:58:41.000 I'm going to prioritize experience or genetics and And then, as my sexual marketplace value dwindles as I get older, I'm going to prioritize different things, and I'm going to try to lock down a lifetime of provision at the last moment when I might have more power in the dynamic over a man.

00:58:58.000 The game really changes at 30.

00:59:00.000 30 is my turning point, where the average man's sexual marketplace value exceeds the average woman's sexual marketplace value for the very first time. 0.69

00:59:09.000 This is enormous.

00:59:11.000 Yeah.

00:59:13.000 Yeah.

00:59:26.000 Yeah.

00:59:46.000 The man that they're picking to some degree provides some utility, which obviously shows that their decision-making with the man is.

00:59:54.000 There's a rational component of it.

00:59:56.000 That guy could fulfill something, whether it's an experience, provisioning, an emotional connection.

01:00:01.000 He's attractive.

01:00:02.000 He has some social status.

01:00:03.000 You have to provide value.

01:00:05.000 You have to provide value.

01:00:06.000 Women date and mate for gain. 1.00

01:00:08.000 They want value.

01:00:10.000 But that also means the flip side of that is that men mate and date for acceptable loss.

01:00:17.000 Say that one more.

01:00:18.000 So I agree.

01:00:19.000 Women date for value, 100% agree. 1.00

01:00:21.000 For gain.

01:00:22.000 Yeah, for gain.

01:00:22.000 Now think about it, like for profit.

01:00:24.000 Think about it in profit, like money.

01:00:26.000 Profit is when your revenue exceeds your expenses.

01:00:29.000 Yep.

01:00:29.000 So you're taking out more than you're putting in.

01:00:32.000 Absolutely.

01:00:33.000 All right.

01:00:33.000 Women couldn't date for gain if they were taking out, if they were putting in more than they were taking out.

01:00:38.000 Absolutely.

01:00:39.000 So the flip side of women mating and dating for gain is that it forces men more or less to mate or date for acceptable loss. 0.96

01:00:46.000 Hmm.

01:00:46.000 Like, there's going to be some diminution in resources, time, commitment, like opportunity, at the very least.

01:00:56.000 Yeah.

01:00:56.000 Right?

01:00:58.000 Women play to not lose versus men play to win. 0.96

01:01:01.000 Well in this case most men are playing to lose.

01:01:06.000 The fact that they're gonna lose with a woman no matter what basically. 0.70

01:01:10.000 Kinda.

01:01:11.000 But some losses are acceptable and some losses are unacceptable.

01:01:15.000 I mean as in like they're going balls to the wall to like win.

01:01:18.000 They're okay with losing here and there but as long as they get one win It mitigates all the losses versus with the women. 0.99

01:01:26.000 It's like, I'm never going to lose.

01:01:27.000 I'm going to play to always put myself in a leverage position to always win to some degree.

01:01:31.000 Get something out of this.

01:01:33.000 I can see that.

01:01:33.000 Yeah.

01:01:34.000 And the extent that the woman is getting more out of the relationship than she's putting in, which is dating for gain, the flip side must be true for women, for men.

01:01:44.000 Nobody has a problem with the statement, women mate and date for gain, but a lot of people have the problem with the statement that men mate and date for acceptable loss.

01:01:52.000 Yeah.

01:01:52.000 That's a good point.

01:01:54.000 Men date for acceptable loss. 0.91

01:01:57.000 Because guys kind of know that it's...

01:01:59.000 You know, guys, they know in the back of their head subconsciously that when they deal with females, like, you're going to lose and you're going to lose some, right?

01:02:07.000 You win some, you lose some is the phrase that a lot of guys will use when they're talking with women, right?

01:02:11.000 But, like, girls, it's like, if they lose, it's a problem.

01:02:14.000 They're on TikTok complaining about it.

01:02:16.000 They're venting to their girlfriends.

01:02:18.000 And we give...

01:02:20.000 Females, an open kind of door to go ahead and vent their frustrations on the dating marketplace because it's acceptable. 1.00

01:02:28.000 But if a guy went on TikTok and complained about all the times he gets rejected, he would get laughed off the fucking screen. 0.99

01:02:33.000 That is a double standard, but I do think it's very stupid for women to do that because who chose those men? 1.00

01:02:37.000 Agreed. 0.99

01:02:38.000 All you're doing when women rant about, or when people rant about their partner, is basically advertising, I'm a bad judge of character. 0.99

01:02:46.000 Yeah, literally.

01:02:46.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:02:48.000 But we never penalize them for it. 1.00

01:02:49.000 We say, don't worry, you go queen, that guy's a toxic fuckboy. 0.99

01:02:54.000 We will demonize the man, versus looking at the individual that's complaining that picked that man, is what I've realized. 0.99

01:03:01.000 Yeah, that happens a lot.

01:03:04.000 Women socialize differently than men do. 1.00

01:03:06.000 I mean, I've dated lots of women and they've gone out with their girlfriends and they've expressed their support and then come home privately and told me, oh, this woman just makes terrible choices. 1.00

01:03:16.000 But no one is going to say anything to this woman because I would be judged by the coterie of other women if I were to ask her to consider her contribution to the difficulty. 0.96

01:03:26.000 So when they get together, they're just looking for a cosign.

01:03:29.000 The sister of Uber Alice.

01:03:32.000 Yeah, that's what Rolo said.

01:03:33.000 Shout out to him.

01:03:34.000 The committee.

01:03:35.000 Yeah, the committee.

01:03:37.000 What else do we got here?

01:03:38.000 Entrepreneurial Cars.

01:03:39.000 You brought up a point I just want to address real quick about...

01:03:44.000 Basically, you said, take out the moral compass out of, like, you know, women's strategies, and it's rational. 1.00

01:03:51.000 Yeah.

01:03:51.000 Would you say that, like, because of finding a mate, should guys get angry or understand that, listen, girls are going to do what they do, and I can't stop it.

01:04:02.000 It's just a part of how they find a rational sense to do things.

01:04:06.000 Okay.

01:04:06.000 I think that anger is mostly a wasted emotion.

01:04:10.000 Anger is a terrible master but a powerful servant.

01:04:14.000 Like men need to learn how to channel. 0.99

01:04:16.000 Can you say that one more time?

01:04:17.000 Anger is a terrible master, but a powerful servant.

01:04:21.000 Men need to learn how to use that anger and channel it into constructive action.

01:04:25.000 But just expressing anger is pointless.

01:04:29.000 It makes you feel big and strong in the moment, like a bull, but The bull has actually lost control the moment he's given over into anger.

01:04:38.000 Who really has control is the bullfighter who's waving the cape and can direct the bull wherever the bullfighter wants the bull to go.

01:04:45.000 And that generally doesn't end well for the bull.

01:04:48.000 So, like, men need to learn how to channel that emotional energy into constructive action as opposed to just erupting.

01:04:55.000 That's going to make them feel more impotent than anything in the long run.

01:04:59.000 Nice.

01:05:00.000 Anger is a terrible master, but a powerful servant.

01:05:05.000 You want it to work for you.

01:05:07.000 Because there is a time and a place for you to say, enough!

01:05:10.000 I'm tired of this!

01:05:11.000 Never again!

01:05:12.000 And that's actually the beginning of real change in most people's lives.

01:05:16.000 You have to get angry often.

01:05:20.000 Before things get better.

01:05:21.000 Because that anger is one of the only forces that is sufficiently powerful enough to overcome behavioral inertia that keeps people mired in their misery.

01:05:30.000 Nice.

01:05:30.000 Does that make sense?

01:05:31.000 Fantastic.

01:05:32.000 Well said.

01:05:33.000 No, great.

01:05:33.000 And I'm going to steal that from you because I think that's...

01:05:35.000 Guys, and I'll tell you this because there's been...

01:05:38.000 I used to have anger problems, right?

01:05:40.000 And be...

01:05:42.000 I would let it control me to a degree, and sometimes I wouldn't use it productively, but now I've been able to really, like, focus on, like, if I get angry, I take that as fuel and go right to the gym and use that to stimulate a better workout, be able to put myself in a more painful situation that I normally would tolerate thanks to that added energy,

01:06:00.000 right, from the anger.

01:06:01.000 Use it as motivation.

01:06:02.000 And I think if guys are able to figure out this skill set of channeling it from A master into a servant, like you just described in your phrase here, I think we'd be all better off.

01:06:12.000 I mean, we wouldn't have school shooters.

01:06:14.000 We wouldn't have guys doing the crazy things that they do from anger and lack of being understood, etc.

01:06:19.000 Men would be better off in general.

01:06:21.000 A man that can control his emotions can literally move the world.

01:06:23.000 But if he can't, he will ruin the world.

01:06:25.000 Well, you have to master yourself first.

01:06:27.000 Yeah.

01:06:27.000 Absolutely.

01:06:27.000 Or else you're not going to be of use to anyone because you're not even of use to yourself yet.

01:06:32.000 So, absolutely.

01:06:34.000 Walter, I don't know if I answered your question.

01:06:36.000 Could you ask?

01:06:37.000 That was perfect.

01:06:38.000 Okay.

01:06:38.000 Yeah.

01:06:38.000 That was great because a lot of guys in the space, they get mad because of how women act.

01:06:42.000 I'm like, bro, why get mad?

01:06:44.000 Because you understand the truth now.

01:06:45.000 Thank you.

01:06:46.000 So, another line I have is that where anger is, understanding isn't.

01:06:51.000 To the extent that you understand reality, you do not have to be angry.

01:06:57.000 Emotion in general, especially anger, is actually feedback from the universe that your model of reality does not actually align with reality.

01:07:06.000 And anger is a form of pain that manifests itself when our models of reality and reality actually come into contact and friction.

01:07:14.000 Something isn't lining up.

01:07:15.000 The problem is when people are so arrogant, they double down on their model and they say, no, this is not how it should be.

01:07:22.000 Yeah.

01:07:23.000 Where was that written?

01:07:24.000 Why is the idea of reality in your mind the way that reality needs to look?

01:07:30.000 We need to be scientists.

01:07:32.000 An objective scientist goes to nature and says, teach me.

01:07:36.000 What should my model of reality be?

01:07:39.000 By looking very closely, very carefully and non-judgmentally at the world around him.

01:07:44.000 And building that model carefully from actual observation and contact with reality.

01:07:49.000 Would you say that's what the red pill accomplishes?

01:07:51.000 Where it explains things that might have frustrated you prior because you were unaware of them or you didn't know that they existed or they connect dots that you might have not seen, right?

01:08:02.000 And I guess obviously, you know, we described what we call red pill rage, right?

01:08:06.000 You get this stuff and you're like, what the hell?

01:08:08.000 And you're kind of figuring it out.

01:08:09.000 But at some point, right, after, you know, The smoke dissipates, etc.

01:08:13.000 You're able to be like, okay, I can see clearly now.

01:08:16.000 I'm not going to be angry at women for what they are or what they'll never be to me, which is like an idealistic lover.

01:08:23.000 A lot of guys want their women to love them like their mom, almost unconditionally for them.

01:08:27.000 But the reality is women love you under what we said before, value gained or the ability to gain value. 0.98

01:08:31.000 See, because I take it as I understand the truth behind how women operate. 1.00

01:08:35.000 I never get upset.

01:08:36.000 Have you ever seen me get upset at a woman ever?

01:08:38.000 Yeah.

01:08:38.000 Because I'm like, yo, this is what it is.

01:08:40.000 Cool.

01:08:40.000 At least I know now.

01:08:41.000 But you have to understand them, which takes time, right?

01:08:43.000 But understanding, now I'm truly free because now I understand how women operate. 1.00

01:08:47.000 I don't get mad.

01:08:48.000 What's the point of getting mad?

01:08:49.000 Yeah, that's the sign of complete understanding.

01:08:53.000 I made an episode about this called The Truth About the Red Pill.

01:08:56.000 And I do think, as far as I can tell, that once a man becomes more aware of some of these truths and some of these realities, he does inevitably seem to pass through a red pill rage.

01:09:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:09:07.000 And here's the thing.

01:09:09.000 Red pill rage means that you've swallowed the pill, but you haven't digested it yet.

01:09:14.000 Red pill rage means the pill is stuck in your throat.

01:09:17.000 And that's what it sounds like.

01:09:22.000 They're so angry.

01:09:24.000 They're just like spitting nonsensically.

01:09:27.000 It's like, keep swallowing, my dude.

01:09:29.000 Keep swallowing and you'll digest it and we'll integrate it.

01:09:32.000 And then when you understand, it is what it is.

01:09:35.000 And you can just make better choices because you see reality clearly.

01:09:40.000 Yeah.

01:09:41.000 Like, a sign that you see reality clearly is that you're successful.

01:09:44.000 You have good, loving relationships with the people around you, men and women.

01:09:49.000 Your businesses are thriving.

01:09:51.000 Like, you can't fake that.

01:09:53.000 Yeah.

01:09:54.000 It's like, when I go into, like, the world of, like, you know, outside versus, like, more blueprint mindset, I understand what it is.

01:10:02.000 I don't get mad at it, but I understand, and for me understanding, I could go into a room with people that I don't really want to say I align with their values, but...

01:10:10.000 I know to get a certain outcome, I have to be in this environment, play the game, and then come out with a W because I know and I understand what it really is.

01:10:18.000 So I don't get mad at it at all.

01:10:19.000 Yeah, well said.

01:10:22.000 And a lot of that knowledge is kept from men.

01:10:25.000 Yes.

01:10:26.000 It's kept...

01:10:26.000 I don't know if there's an active conspiracy, but I didn't have a lot of experience when I was younger, and so I went to TVs and movies, and I thought that by watching these That I could learn about what women wanted,

01:10:42.000 and that was just not true at all.

01:10:44.000 I would often, in my teenage years, in my young 20s, I would approach women that I knew that I respected, and I'd say, what do women want?

01:10:51.000 And they'd tell me all kinds of answers, but they never once told me they wanted a rich guy, or a tall guy, or a handsome guy.

01:10:59.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:11:01.000 Yeah.

01:11:02.000 Yeah.

01:11:03.000 Yeah.

01:11:20.000 Yeah, why do we need to study for that?

01:11:22.000 Exactly.

01:11:23.000 It's usually so obvious or so esoteric that nobody cares about.

01:11:26.000 But there was one study that was done by some guys that asked a question that a lot of guys wanted to know.

01:11:30.000 It's like, what do beautiful women want? 1.00

01:11:33.000 Like, what do attractive women want? 1.00

01:11:36.000 And so what they did is they asked a bunch of guys to rate a few thousand women in terms of both their faces and their appearance in terms of just their physical attractiveness.

01:11:46.000 And they took the ones that were like rated nine or above.

01:11:51.000 So the really attractive women. 1.00

01:11:55.000 Yeah.

01:12:13.000 Wow, okay.

01:12:14.000 They said yes to every single thing on the survey.

01:12:19.000 Wow.

01:12:20.000 Attractive women wanted everything. 1.00

01:12:22.000 Question, did they give the survey to average looking girls as well, or was it only they gave it to the most attractive? 0.51

01:12:27.000 That would be really interesting.

01:12:29.000 I guarantee the average chicks would have probably said the same. 1.00

01:12:32.000 I want everything too!

01:12:33.000 They might.

01:12:34.000 I mean, I've been really consistently surprised when, through my own personal interactions with some women, that most women seem to feel like, and you know, God bless them.

01:12:46.000 They can get the best deal that they can.

01:12:49.000 He's really nice about it.

01:12:51.000 God bless them.

01:12:54.000 The best deal that they can get.

01:12:55.000 But one finding that was interesting is that these attractive women apparently wanted everything, but they didn't want everything equally. 0.77

01:13:02.000 Some things did get left out more frequently than others.

01:13:07.000 And the three things that were at the bottom were kindness, loyalty, and intelligence.

01:13:17.000 Those were the three that apparently, I don't even think that they were significant correlations.

01:13:23.000 So those were the three things that, of course, women would like those more than to not have them in their potential mate. 0.99

01:13:29.000 Yeah.

01:13:29.000 But those seem to be the three that they were most willing to dispense with.

01:13:33.000 Intelligence.

01:13:34.000 Kindness.

01:13:35.000 Kindness.

01:13:36.000 Loyalty.

01:13:37.000 Wow.

01:13:39.000 Yeah, the back is going crazy.

01:13:41.000 Well, what was the number one thing that they desired?

01:13:44.000 Was it status?

01:13:45.000 I've always been under their impression, or at least what I've realized with very attractive women is the number one amplifier when it comes to being attractive as a guy is absolutely status, right? 0.95

01:13:52.000 You look at a celeb, look at a Leonardo DiCaprio.

01:13:55.000 Let's be honest here.

01:13:56.000 If he didn't do Titanic and he was a regular guy walking down the street and we didn't know him for his acting accolades, you wouldn't really...

01:14:03.000 He'd be like, oh yeah, he's an average guy.

01:14:04.000 He's like 5'8", 5'9".

01:14:06.000 Maybe a younger Leo might have been more attractive than the average guy, but he's fairly average in a degree.

01:14:12.000 Physique, height, all this other stuff.

01:14:13.000 But his status of who he is, etc., puts him with the most attractive women in the world where he's literally using them like toys.

01:14:22.000 25 years old, done.

01:14:24.000 Next one, right?

01:14:24.000 And he just moves on and moves on and he's able to do this through his status.

01:14:28.000 Well, that's certainly true.

01:14:29.000 I've often said that the best way to catch a woman is to have a woman because women want what other women want. 0.99

01:14:34.000 Absolutely.

01:14:34.000 And so if Leo or some other man can be publicly seen with a dime piece on his arm, all other women are going to say, well...

01:14:45.000 If I can get that guy, they're going to look at me the way that I'm looking at her right now.

01:14:49.000 And that's going to make me feel really good.

01:14:52.000 So I think in that study, the most important endorsed item was sexiness.

01:14:58.000 It was actually like physical attractiveness.

01:15:00.000 And I think they defined it as sexiness.

01:15:02.000 The women did. 1.00

01:15:03.000 Yeah.

01:15:04.000 Interesting.

01:15:09.000 Oh.

01:15:10.000 So, basically, if they got clout, to them they're sexy.

01:15:12.000 Yeah.

01:15:13.000 Well, that is true.

01:15:13.000 That's called the halo effect.

01:15:14.000 Did they clarify, like, that it was, like, strictly physical features or status?

01:15:19.000 I mean, not that they would admit that, because, I mean...

01:15:21.000 You ever heard that Gucci Mane song, Money Made Me Handsome?

01:15:23.000 Yeah.

01:15:24.000 The money and status of clout?

01:15:25.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:15:25.000 You sexy now, nigga! 0.98

01:15:26.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:15:27.000 I want you!

01:15:28.000 That's true.

01:15:29.000 That's the halo effect, is that once we decide that this person is high status, then we assume they're also intelligent and kind and patient and just a really wonderful human being.

01:15:40.000 And that's not true at all.

01:15:42.000 In fact, the more privileged a person is in the sexual marketplace, men and women, the more they tend towards narcissistic tendencies.

01:15:50.000 Yeah.

01:15:51.000 In general.

01:16:10.000 You know, from what I see, right, women are more interested in the way that they look. 1.00

01:16:14.000 They're more interested in themselves.

01:16:15.000 They typically tend to look at what can I gain out of the situation.

01:16:17.000 We talked earlier about how women always make sure that they operate at a net positive when dealing with the men versus men are more okay with dealing with a net negative if required to get what they want.

01:16:27.000 Would you say that women in general have more narcissistic tendencies than men do? 0.78

01:16:32.000 Okay, so this is what I'll say about this.

01:16:35.000 So all people start out narcissistic.

01:16:38.000 Like a child is essentially narcissistic.

01:16:42.000 It can't be otherwise.

01:16:44.000 It's not able to empathize.

01:16:47.000 It's not able to take another person's perspective and see things from a different angle.

01:16:52.000 The boy or the girl is egocentric.

01:16:54.000 He or she thinks everything is about him or her.

01:16:57.000 The crying baby example.

01:16:59.000 What do you mean? 0.97

01:17:00.000 No, I mean like, because you're saying when you're a baby and the baby's crying, he doesn't give a fuck about you getting up at 2 or 3 in the morning. 0.98

01:17:05.000 Oh, yeah, exactly. 0.96

01:17:06.000 I need something.

01:17:08.000 It's the most important thing in the entire universe.

01:17:11.000 Exactly.

01:17:12.000 So all children behave that way.

01:17:14.000 And all children are kind of tyrants and they kind of have to be tyrants for a while.

01:17:18.000 It's like you can't reason with it.

01:17:19.000 You can't speak to it.

01:17:21.000 But eventually as it grows up and it learns language, you can kind of break their spirit a little bit.

01:17:25.000 You don't want to break it too much because...

01:17:28.000 Who wants a broken person? 0.86

01:17:29.000 Good point.

01:17:29.000 But you do have to kind of injure the child's narcissism appropriately as he or she ages.

01:17:35.000 So, most people grow out of their narcissism.

01:17:41.000 However, if you're a very attractive woman, that's almost like being a young man with a trust fund. 0.67

01:17:49.000 It's like, can you imagine if you never had to like... 0.99

01:17:53.000 Work a crappy job.

01:17:55.000 If you had to be paid minimum wage, if you had a cold call and 200 people hung up on you, Like, it teaches you some humility a little bit.

01:18:06.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:18:06.000 So, like, a really rich man is like a really beautiful woman.

01:18:11.000 And the game is just really different.

01:18:14.000 I remember a long time ago, I was dating this extremely physically attractive woman.

01:18:19.000 She was a Brazilian lingerie model. 0.94

01:18:22.000 And we had a number of disagreements.

01:18:25.000 Mm-hmm.

01:18:25.000 She thought that people were just so kind and giving.

01:18:29.000 And everywhere she went, men especially were just like offering to give her things.

01:18:34.000 And she thought that's because she was a good person.

01:18:37.000 And that these men could see that, like on the surface, her goodness.

01:18:43.000 We did a couple of experiments that kind of disabused her of this.

01:18:46.000 Like, for example, there was a guy that she knew casually that was hitting her up, trying to get her to come out to New York while she's dating me in California.

01:18:55.000 And I said, you know, this is a little sketchy.

01:18:57.000 She's like, what do you mind?

01:18:58.000 He's just being friendly.

01:18:59.000 You know, he just cares about me.

01:19:02.000 And I was like, okay, here's the experiment.

01:19:04.000 Say you're interested in coming, but ask him where you're going to sleep.

01:19:08.000 And he hemmed and hawed and was like, oh, I guess you can sleep on the couch.

01:19:13.000 You know, we'll get you a separate room.

01:19:15.000 I was like, yeah, you have to understand that he's doing this because he's trying to get your pants, sweetie.

01:19:20.000 But she couldn't really see it at the time.

01:19:23.000 She was 23, 24. 0.91

01:19:25.000 She was also young.

01:19:26.000 The prefrontal cortex apparently doesn't stop developing or maturing until 25.

01:19:31.000 Yeah, you got it.

01:19:32.000 So...

01:19:33.000 We'll give her a little bit of a pass there. 1.00

01:19:35.000 But if you just have money, you don't understand how hard it is for a lot of people who don't have it.

01:19:42.000 And if you're extremely beautiful as a woman, you don't understand how hard it is in many other respects.

01:19:48.000 You have a very distorted view of humanity.

01:19:51.000 Because people always want things from you.

01:19:53.000 Yeah.

01:19:54.000 Like, how many rich guys can really be sure who their friends truly are?

01:19:58.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:19:59.000 Yeah.

01:19:59.000 I have a friend, actually, that kind of fits that example.

01:20:02.000 He actually moved to Columbia.

01:20:04.000 Super successful guy.

01:20:06.000 Always, always had girls around him.

01:20:08.000 Had guys, people asking for stuff.

01:20:10.000 But he realized that, like...

01:20:12.000 His whole life was built around people trying to take it from him.

01:20:15.000 And he said, you know what?

01:20:16.000 I just need to get away.

01:20:18.000 Move to Colombia.

01:20:19.000 And it's like, no one knows him.

01:20:20.000 He doesn't speak any Spanish.

01:20:22.000 So it's kind of like, alright.

01:20:23.000 It's kind of like, I'm separate from my reality of like, hey bro, I need this.

01:20:27.000 I need that.

01:20:29.000 It's kind of like, you know what?

01:20:30.000 He stepped away.

01:20:31.000 Now he's like, okay, now I can see for what it was.

01:20:33.000 People wouldn't want to use him for his stuff.

01:20:35.000 All the time.

01:20:36.000 So it happens.

01:20:38.000 Would you say that Because what we were just talking about with women thinking that people are nice and all this other stuff. 1.00

01:20:48.000 I've always said women don't mature until they start buying their own drinks at the bar. 1.00

01:20:52.000 That is true.

01:20:55.000 It's a much less professional and well put together Statement that you would say.

01:21:02.000 Well, the game changes when that happens.

01:21:04.000 That's why you go to some places and you'll see the 40-year-old women, the 50-year-old women, they are aggressive because they're not going to get approached otherwise. 1.00

01:21:14.000 Blue martini? 1.00

01:21:15.000 It's coming for your ass. 1.00

01:21:16.000 They're older. 1.00

01:21:17.000 There you go.

01:21:18.000 They adapt.

01:21:19.000 No woman would buy her own drink if she didn't have to. 1.00

01:21:22.000 I don't think any man would buy his own drink if he didn't have to, potentially.

01:21:27.000 That's why I don't get angry at women. 1.00

01:21:28.000 It's like if I... Could have that, too.

01:21:31.000 I would probably want it as well.

01:21:32.000 Yeah.

01:21:33.000 Like, I would love to date for a game.

01:21:34.000 I'd love to marry a high-status heiress. 0.99

01:21:37.000 You know, there's many things I want to do than sell my time for money.

01:21:40.000 Yeah.

01:21:40.000 No, true.

01:21:41.000 That'd be great.

01:21:42.000 And I think once guys understand that, like, And I've always used the analogy, right?

01:21:47.000 To like kind of put guys, because a lot of guys get angry at women for doing the things that they do, exercising hypergamy, not giving, you know, them a chance or blah, blah, blah.

01:21:56.000 And what I always tell guys is imagine that, you know, as soon as you turn 18, Cam Kardashian sent you a DM and said, I'll fly you out to LA and we can hang out.

01:22:04.000 Or, you know, hot girls always DM'd you and sent you money on Zelle or gave you cash apps, etc.

01:22:10.000 You would think that the world is hunky-dory and fantastic too.

01:22:13.000 And you would think, yo, I'm special just because I'm a man and I'm 18.

01:22:17.000 And I deserve it.

01:22:18.000 And I deserve it.

01:22:18.000 Imagine never being told no.

01:22:20.000 Yeah.

01:22:21.000 Whatever you wanted, yes.

01:22:22.000 Yeah.

01:22:23.000 This woman, she told me I was the first man who ever told her no in her life.

01:22:27.000 I love hearing that.

01:22:27.000 Yeah.

01:22:28.000 No.

01:22:28.000 Yeah.

01:22:29.000 What were the things, just so the audience could learn, what were the things that you noticed that you had to say no a lot to when dealing with an attractive woman?

01:22:38.000 Because I've always told guys on this podcast that nines and tens a lot of the times come with headaches that a lot of guys are not prepared to deal with.

01:22:46.000 And one of them is being able to say no Even when you might not want to say no, because you need to be able to let her know who the boss is.

01:22:56.000 What would you say are some of the common things that guys have to deal with when they're dealing with very attractive women and the power of saying no?

01:23:02.000 Well, in my personal experience, it's this strange expectation that she can access my attention whenever she wants.

01:23:14.000 Is that sometimes I am working.

01:23:17.000 Sometimes I'm working out.

01:23:18.000 Sometimes I'm with my friends.

01:23:19.000 But the idea that I am going to respond at a moment's notice whenever she needs anything, whenever she reaches out.

01:23:27.000 I generally don't text throughout the day.

01:23:29.000 That's just a rule that I have.

01:23:31.000 I will text in the evenings.

01:23:34.000 And I just use the phone generally for making logistics.

01:23:39.000 It's better.

01:23:40.000 Well, this is an oversimplification, but attention is for women what sex is for men.

01:23:46.000 And when men are giving their attention without...

01:24:00.000 Yep.

01:24:01.000 Mm-hmm.

01:24:13.000 That's why texting girls all day before a date.

01:24:15.000 And she's like, oh, well, you know, my cat died.

01:24:17.000 Which is a reasonable response.

01:24:19.000 But sometimes it's just like, come on.

01:24:21.000 You know you're going to come on a date.

01:24:22.000 But because you lost interest, you're like, eh.

01:24:25.000 I've got a better thing than I could do.

01:24:26.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:24:27.000 This woman tested a lot. 0.85

01:24:28.000 I remember one time we got into...

01:24:30.000 The attractive Brazilian girl.

01:24:32.000 Yeah, we got into a disagreement.

01:24:34.000 And she got on this really fancy club outfit.

01:24:39.000 And was like, well, I'm just going to go out.

01:24:42.000 And I was like, all right.

01:24:44.000 And she was like, what?

01:24:46.000 Exactly.

01:24:46.000 You're not going to stop me?

01:24:47.000 She's like, you're not going to stop me?

01:24:48.000 He's like, no.

01:24:49.000 Go ahead.

01:24:49.000 Have fun.

01:24:50.000 Have fun.

01:24:51.000 And she was scratching her head and she took the clothes off and stayed at home.

01:24:56.000 Nice.

01:24:56.000 It didn't work.

01:24:57.000 I mean, she was clearly trying to trigger some sort of jealousy or anger reaction.

01:25:03.000 So that's also something that you have to deal with.

01:25:07.000 Did you kind of imply that if you go...

01:25:12.000 Through your actions, right?

01:25:13.000 We talked about the power of body language earlier.

01:25:14.000 Did you kind of imply that like, no, I'm not angry, but if you go, there's going to be consequences.

01:25:19.000 Was that like an implied thing, which is why she went in and changed immediately?

01:25:21.000 No, not in the moment.

01:25:23.000 Because with these types of things, with respect to like boundary settings with relationships, I call them 30-second conversations.

01:25:29.000 Let me explain how to do this.

01:25:30.000 So let's say on a very basic one, you have a boundary around infidelity.

01:25:35.000 This is how you have a 30-second conversation with a woman. 0.99

01:25:37.000 You say, hey, I just want you to know That if you ever do cheat on me, I will find out eventually.

01:25:44.000 And when I do, it will be the end of our relationship.

01:25:47.000 Boom, done.

01:25:48.000 Do you understand?

01:25:49.000 Yes.

01:25:50.000 Great.

01:25:51.000 We never have to talk about this again.

01:25:52.000 Yeah.

01:25:53.000 She doesn't have... 1.00

01:25:54.000 I don't have to believe that she's going to be faithful.

01:25:57.000 She just has to believe that I'm going to do what I say.

01:25:59.000 Yes.

01:25:59.000 She just has to believe that I'm going to implement the consequence as previously discussed.

01:26:04.000 And I never have to bring that up again.

01:26:06.000 Mm-hmm.

01:26:07.000 She understands there's a consent.

01:26:08.000 Boom, let's go about our business.

01:26:10.000 Okay.

01:26:10.000 Do you give that to her after you guys are officially in a relationship or when you guys are talking?

01:26:16.000 What stage do you drop that on them?

01:26:18.000 With that, it's generally deeper into the relationship when there's an expectation for that kind of behavior.

01:26:24.000 Gotcha.

01:26:26.000 I've always said that cheating can be very...

01:26:29.000 Many different things.

01:26:31.000 And I would argue, and I'd love to get your take on this, I'd argue the threshold for cheating for women is much greater than for men.

01:26:39.000 For example, I think a girl... 1.00

01:26:42.000 Advertising herself on the internet, putting herself in situations that might allow men to court her, etc.

01:26:49.000 That could be constituted as cheating, especially if you're not present.

01:26:52.000 You gave the example with going to the club in a sexy outfit.

01:26:55.000 I would consider that as cheating.

01:26:57.000 Some people might not agree with me on that or whatever, but I think since it's easier for women to get sex, I would argue as a by-part of them being able to get sex quickly, they also can cheat just as easily since the threshold to break is so simple for them. 1.00

01:27:11.000 But I mean, I don't know.

01:27:12.000 You might have different boundaries on it.

01:27:13.000 That's my take on it.

01:27:14.000 Well, different people have different boundaries, right?

01:27:16.000 And one way that I thought about this, because actually in this relationship, there was a lot of jealousy coming from her, where I would interact with women. 1.00

01:27:26.000 And she was like, well, guys, we'll just sleep with anything. 0.99

01:27:29.000 And I was like, I need you to trust me.

01:27:31.000 I can engage with a woman without doing anything I said I'm not going to do.

01:27:35.000 So you guys were monogamous?

01:27:37.000 Yes.

01:27:38.000 And so in that situation, I felt more controlled and mistrusted inappropriately.

01:27:43.000 And that became a problem for that relationship.

01:27:47.000 So I want to be able to be trusted by the woman that I can talk to other women without doing anything inappropriate.

01:27:52.000 And I'm going to extend that same trust to the women that I'm dating.

01:27:55.000 But that's just me.

01:27:56.000 Other people have different thresholds.

01:27:59.000 What I do seem to see is that cheating means different things to different people.

01:28:03.000 Like in that relationship, I heard the word emotional cheating for the first time.

01:28:06.000 I had never heard of what emotional cheating was before.

01:28:11.000 But I've since discovered that, again, this is going to be an overgeneralization, but men care more about a woman's sexual fidelity and women care more about a man's emotional fidelity.

01:28:22.000 Yeah, agreed.

01:28:25.000 Yeah.

01:28:35.000 Yeah.

01:28:44.000 The idea about emotional cheating is that the woman is afraid that if a man becomes emotionally involved with somebody else, he's going to leave. 0.54

01:28:51.000 Yeah.

01:28:51.000 And then the resources go elsewhere.

01:28:53.000 Right.

01:28:53.000 It makes sense.

01:28:54.000 It does happen.

01:28:55.000 Yeah.

01:28:56.000 See, I love how you handled that situation with your girl by just saying, go ahead, you can go.

01:29:01.000 But you spoke to her without having to speak to her.

01:29:04.000 That makes sense.

01:29:04.000 Just by your response, she got it and she stayed home.

01:29:08.000 That's brilliant.

01:29:09.000 Question for you, Doc.

01:29:10.000 If she had gone, what would have you done if she had gone?

01:29:15.000 Well, I don't know.

01:29:18.000 I don't know what I would do in that case.

01:29:20.000 But what I would say is, if a woman has violated one of our understandings, then I just implement the consequence that I discussed previously. 0.97

01:29:29.000 And that would be it.

01:29:30.000 I don't have to get angry.

01:29:31.000 Would that have constituted as cheating for you, personally?

01:29:33.000 I mean, every guy has different boundaries.

01:29:35.000 If a woman just went out to a club? 1.00

01:29:36.000 The way she was dressed in that instance, do you think that would have constituted cheating in your eyes?

01:29:41.000 For me, no.

01:29:42.000 But I have different thresholds than you, and that's fine.

01:29:44.000 Okay, okay.

01:29:45.000 Okay, yeah.

01:29:46.000 I'm a lot more restrictive with females. 1.00

01:29:50.000 And I think the reason why is because I look at it that since women have, and I'd love to open this as a general discussion because a lot of people say, Myron, you have crazy boundaries. 0.88

01:30:01.000 You're really restrictive, etc.

01:30:02.000 And my reasoning for that is that since women have an abundance of options, the sexual marketplace is completely open to them. 1.00

01:30:10.000 They can literally get a guy anytime they want. 0.89

01:30:14.000 I think with unlimited access, you need to go ahead and match that level of unlimited access that they have and limit it significantly to a certain degree.

01:30:24.000 Because you have to almost overcompensate for the options she has.

01:30:27.000 And my thing is to deal with the current sexual marketplace in today's day and age where I don't have the social constructs of shame, family, religion, etc.

01:30:38.000 We live in a deregulated sexual marketplace. 0.80

01:30:40.000 Now I have to regulate the sexual marketplace for her. 1.00

01:30:48.000 I'm solely responsible for regulating the sexual marketplace because ain't nobody else going to regulate it thanks to feminism. 1.00

01:30:53.000 I put these boundaries in place to the point where I can mitigate the most risk.

01:30:57.000 I know some guys can go ahead and accept a little bit more risk than others.

01:31:00.000 But for me, I look at it like We live in an era and a time where women are incentivized to be hoes, and I need to do what I need to do and let her know that you can behave that way, but understand that I am not going to be here if you go ahead and participate in certain avenues that might put you in a situation that might hurt this relationship. 1.00

01:31:19.000 You have unlimited access, I need to limit it.

01:31:20.000 That's my job to a degree.

01:31:22.000 Not limit it overtly, like, you can't do this, but limit it through my reaction to what you do with your unlimited access, if that makes sense.

01:31:30.000 Well, yeah, that does make a lot of sense.

01:31:32.000 I think you're talking about boundaries, and everyone can have boundaries in their relationships.

01:31:36.000 And I think that's one way to do it.

01:31:38.000 Another way to counter women's greater optionality in the sexual marketplace is, of course, to increase your own optionality in the marketplace. 0.95

01:31:45.000 That's like the Cold War.

01:31:46.000 You know, you got your nukes, I got my nukes.

01:31:48.000 And so it creates a kind of a detente between the two people.

01:31:51.000 I take her nukes away.

01:31:53.000 And I just keep mine.

01:31:55.000 You can try to do that.

01:31:56.000 I'm the U.S. I'm taking everyone's nukes.

01:31:58.000 This was a behavior that was not very characteristic of this woman.

01:32:04.000 She wasn't somebody who would go out to clubs.

01:32:06.000 She was angry at me in that moment and she was trying to provoke an emotional reaction.

01:32:10.000 So context matters in this situation.

01:32:13.000 It's like if you have a problem with a woman going to clubs, that's fine. 1.00

01:32:16.000 But you probably shouldn't try to date a woman who goes to clubs every week. 1.00

01:32:21.000 Yeah.

01:32:22.000 Yeah.

01:32:36.000 You never tell them they can't do something.

01:32:39.000 You just tell them, if you do that, there's consequences.

01:32:42.000 This is what I will not commit.

01:32:43.000 This is what I will not tolerate.

01:32:45.000 Everything has consequences.

01:32:46.000 Absolutely.

01:32:46.000 So that's my thing.

01:32:47.000 I'll never tell them you can't do that.

01:32:48.000 I'll just be like, okay, just understand that you're going to be single if you do some of these behaviors.

01:32:53.000 And I tell them this on the onset kind of thing.

01:32:55.000 I'm a bit more relaxed in my approach just because I can't control anybody or their actions.

01:32:59.000 I just think that as a man, I got stuff going on.

01:33:02.000 I got things I got to do.

01:33:04.000 And to focus on what she's doing all the time is going to take off of my purpose and passion.

01:33:08.000 So I don't want to deal with that.

01:33:10.000 Absolutely.

01:33:11.000 I'm coming up to you.

01:33:12.000 I kind of like bring it up front.

01:33:13.000 Hey, you know what?

01:33:14.000 This is me.

01:33:15.000 These are my standards here.

01:33:16.000 Either you're cool or you're not.

01:33:17.000 And I think if she actually is the...

01:33:19.000 You said adoree.

01:33:20.000 The adorer.

01:33:22.000 The adorer.

01:33:23.000 She wants to fulfill and satisfy you as a man.

01:33:25.000 So she's going to say, you know what?

01:33:27.000 Is it worth me losing this guy?

01:33:28.000 No.

01:33:29.000 So I won't do it.

01:33:30.000 So...

01:33:31.000 I'll give you an example.

01:33:32.000 The chick I'm talking to right now, she wants to always please me. 0.99

01:33:37.000 If anything comes across her mind, she may say, you know what, this might make him upset or mad at me.

01:33:41.000 She won't even do it. 0.74

01:33:42.000 But I didn't tell her not to do these things to be specific.

01:33:46.000 I just said, hey, here's my standards here, and if you want to be with me, this is what it is.

01:33:51.000 I think it's men's rights to say, these are my expectations or these are my boundaries in the relationship.

01:33:57.000 And you should then allow the woman to be free.

01:34:00.000 And if a woman then says, okay, well, I don't care. 1.00

01:34:03.000 I'm willing to do this even in spite of the consequences.

01:34:06.000 Well, then she didn't have a lot of respect or a lot of attraction for you anyway.

01:34:10.000 So you might as well just let her go.

01:34:11.000 Exactly.

01:34:13.000 See, because again, you give people rope, they'll hang themselves.

01:34:16.000 But once again, it's kind of like, if she respects you, she'll follow.

01:34:19.000 She doesn't... 1.00

01:34:19.000 That's a really good point. 1.00

01:34:21.000 I actually like giving women a lot of freedom in the beginning. 1.00

01:34:24.000 Me too.

01:34:25.000 Because they often will tell on themselves.

01:34:28.000 They'll hang themselves with too much rope.

01:34:29.000 And so if you come off as too controlling or restrictive, you never really know if they're responding to those behaviors or if it's really kind of her personality or her temperament or how she is.

01:34:41.000 Because they can play a game to fit what you want, but you don't know what that person is until they mess up.

01:34:46.000 I also wanted to say one thing, too, to clarify, because I don't want guys, because a lot of people take things out of context, like, okay, Myra, I'm going to do what you said.

01:34:52.000 Guys, what I do is...

01:34:54.000 You made a fantastic point.

01:34:56.000 You kind of have to let her be free in the beginning so you can get an idea of what she really is and how she really behaves. 0.95

01:35:02.000 Because remember, you're vetting her.

01:35:04.000 Then, when that conversation comes up and she's like, I want to be your girl or something like that, which I always think I should let girls ask them out, right?

01:35:13.000 Never the other way around.

01:35:14.000 Then you can go ahead and say your stipulations because if she's asking you, now you can dictate how the relationship is going to go because she's asking you and you're in the adored position and you're able to dictate your terms.

01:35:28.000 That's when I say, well, it's going to be tough to be with a guy like me.

01:35:33.000 I don't accept this.

01:35:34.000 I don't accept this.

01:35:35.000 I don't commit to women that do X, Y, Z things. 1.00

01:35:38.000 And then she can make a conscious decision to say, okay, am I willing to give up these things for this guy?

01:35:43.000 Well, the answer is going to be yes if she's asking you out 9 out of 10 times.

01:35:46.000 So that's where you can go ahead and then you let these boundaries be known and you're going to have a higher success rate.

01:35:52.000 But in the beginning, guys, you got a vetter for six months to a year so you know where she's even worthy of giving her that situation.

01:35:59.000 That's a good timeline.

01:36:00.000 I'll go even deeper.

01:36:01.000 I plant a seed.

01:36:03.000 You know the saying, what would Jesus do?

01:36:05.000 And then people say, you know what?

01:36:07.000 If God wouldn't do that, I wouldn't do it either.

01:36:09.000 So I say, hey listen, would Walter approve of this?

01:36:12.000 He won't.

01:36:13.000 So I won't do it.

01:36:14.000 I plant a seed.

01:36:15.000 That's it.

01:36:16.000 Real quick, we got 10,000 y'all watching on Rumble, man.

01:36:20.000 So yo, on a Saturday, when we're not normally on, but this is a special episode because you guys can see from this conversation, we're going to give you guys a banger.

01:36:29.000 So guys, from this point forward, We're going to read 20 and up Rumble Rants, right?

01:36:33.000 But I will read the ones that came through and I'll keep flying through these because I still have a bunch more questions, man.

01:36:39.000 This is fun.

01:36:39.000 We'll keep going.

01:36:40.000 Yeah.

01:36:40.000 Okay.

01:36:40.000 Awesome.

01:36:41.000 I knew that people were going to enjoy this.

01:36:44.000 About to turn 30, average looking, made 200K a year.

01:36:46.000 Got a house and a nice car, etc.

01:36:47.000 I'm also a Catholic and a virgin.

01:36:48.000 I want to start dating.

01:36:49.000 What advice would you give to a guy like me, Dr.

01:36:54.000 Orion?

01:36:55.000 Nice.

01:36:57.000 Well, if you're mentioning that you're Catholic and you're a virgin, I suppose that you're saving yourself for marriage and that your religion is a very important aspect of your identity.

01:37:05.000 I think that you should probably try to keep your eyes open on Sundays when you're in church.

01:37:11.000 That's probably where you're going to find a woman who resonates with that lifestyle. 1.00

01:37:15.000 And I think it's going to be very important for you to have a woman like that.

01:37:19.000 And it's going to be very difficult for you to have the kind of relationship you want with a woman who isn't already in that tradition. 0.76

01:37:24.000 Yeah.

01:37:25.000 Do you think he should, in your opinion, right, do you think...

01:37:30.000 I mean, if virginity is required and you refuse to do it before marriage, I respect that, but do you think he's setting himself up for potential disappointment and or failure by not being sexually experienced in such a sexualized, deregulated marketplace with modern day women? 0.79

01:37:47.000 Well, I'll share a brief anecdote from my own life.

01:37:50.000 So I remember when I, starting from eighth grade on, all The boys and girls were talking about was sex.

01:37:57.000 It was always sex.

01:37:58.000 And I had just started puberty.

01:38:00.000 It made me very uncomfortable. 0.99

01:38:02.000 But it was like two years of just sex, sex, sex, sex, sex. 0.99

01:38:05.000 When's it going to happen? 0.99

01:38:05.000 Thinking about sex. 0.99

01:38:06.000 Losing my virginity. 0.99

01:38:07.000 Who's it going to be with?

01:38:08.000 What's it going to be like?

01:38:09.000 And I remember at 16, I lost my virginity to my girlfriend, who also lost her virginity to me.

01:38:14.000 And I thought, was that it?

01:38:17.000 Like, it was good, but it wasn't like the only thing you think about for two years good.

01:38:22.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:38:23.000 So it was...

01:38:23.000 Yeah.

01:38:24.000 She messed up, bro.

01:38:25.000 I did.

01:38:27.000 I mean, you get better with practice, right?

01:38:29.000 Yeah.

01:38:30.000 But the point is, is that it was a letdown.

01:38:33.000 And I don't see how it couldn't have been after two years of hype.

01:38:37.000 And if that's after two years of hype, I can't imagine what it might be like after 16 years of hype.

01:38:41.000 So there has to be some expectation management about that.

01:38:44.000 Yeah.

01:38:45.000 Okay.

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01:39:23.000 I'm 29.

01:39:24.000 I've always been confused about women and how to be a man until I came across the channel. 0.51

01:39:27.000 Life is still hard, but I truly believe you guys saved me from my dark thoughts.

01:39:30.000 Thank you.

01:39:33.000 That's why we do what we do, my friend.

01:39:36.000 And also just want to give him a...

01:39:44.000 Who's up next?

01:39:46.000 Marriage cause divorce. 0.94

01:39:46.000 Women often say they want a guy to be emotionally vulnerable. 0.94

01:39:49.000 Why is this?

01:39:50.000 Do they just want his secrets to bring about his downfall, e.g.

01:39:53.000 in a future child custody battle?

01:39:55.000 A bit like Samson Delisle.

01:39:56.000 You know what, Doc?

01:39:57.000 I'll let you take this because women always say that they want a vulnerable man. 1.00

01:40:00.000 What's your take on this?

01:40:03.000 Yeah, that's a tough one.

01:40:21.000 It's like, why is it that when I'm...

01:40:25.000 I haven't had a fight with a woman in years, but when I used to have a disagreement with her, she would bring up something that happened five years ago. 0.99

01:40:32.000 Something that has nothing to do with what we're talking about, but was told in confidence in a vulnerable moment.

01:40:41.000 So it's possible that when certain people are scared and flailing, they hit below the belt.

01:40:50.000 And so I do think that we should be careful about who we confide in.

01:40:54.000 Absolutely.

01:40:55.000 I have a phrase that the captain can't complain.

01:41:00.000 If the captain is stressed out and goes to his mates and say, oh man, I just don't know if we're going to get through this.

01:41:08.000 The storm is coming down and the waves are really high and I'm just really nervous about how this is going to go.

01:41:15.000 The mates are going to be like, mm-hmm. 1.00

01:41:18.000 We've got to get off this ship, man.

01:41:20.000 It's like they're going to be looking for the next rock that they can hop off.

01:41:23.000 You said something profound.

01:41:25.000 I really want to draw the audience's attention to that.

01:41:29.000 The captain can't complain.

01:41:31.000 Yes. 0.99

01:41:31.000 What a fucking sound way of letting guys know. 0.99

01:41:34.000 That you are the captain of the ship and your woman is one of the mates and you cannot sit there in the sea of uncertainty and sit there and be like, I don't know what we're going to do. 0.99

01:41:42.000 It's a bad idea.

01:41:44.000 When they panic, they might do a bunch of stuff. 0.99

01:41:46.000 What a fucking profound statement. 0.99

01:41:47.000 One of the things I talk about femininity is it's kind of like an incubator. 1.00

01:41:50.000 It reflects.

01:41:51.000 You give a woman one sperm, she'll give you back a whole baby. 1.00

01:42:01.000 You know what I mean?

01:42:20.000 So it's a good idea to try to clean your tone as much as possible, be the master of your emotional timbre, as it were.

01:42:29.000 But yes, in my model of relationships, people have different models, but the man is the captain of the relationship, and the woman is the first mate. 0.80

01:42:37.000 Which is a very important position on the ship, because the captain isn't always right.

01:42:41.000 The captain has his blind spots and needs to be able to consult appropriately with someone who will advise him and give him the truth.

01:42:48.000 But ultimately, it's the captain's call.

01:42:50.000 Now, captains have problems.

01:42:52.000 Captains have stresses.

01:42:53.000 But you don't go to the mates with your problems.

01:42:56.000 You go to other captains.

01:42:58.000 Other captains can appreciate what you might be going through, and they're probably not going to bring it up four years later.

01:43:04.000 If things go sideways.

01:43:06.000 Because they understand.

01:43:07.000 Absolutely.

01:43:08.000 That's fantastic.

01:43:09.000 I'm going to steal that one.

01:43:11.000 I've also used the analogy that you're the pilot, she's your flight attendant.

01:43:16.000 You know, similar concept.

01:43:18.000 But yeah, I like the ship one because the sea is changing every day, right?

01:43:24.000 Let's see here.

01:43:25.000 Marriage cards where some independent boss babes say they need a more dominant alpha male before they will become more feminine.

01:43:29.000 Is this the truth or would these boss babes still be masculine deep down? 0.99

01:43:34.000 What's your take on that, Doc?

01:43:37.000 I think that the bedroom plays by different rules than society.

01:43:40.000 The bedroom is like the Wild West.

01:43:42.000 It will never truly be civilized entirely because it's rooted in deep...

01:43:48.000 It's partly animal.

01:43:49.000 It's partly still wild.

01:43:51.000 And what...

01:43:53.000 Goes on behind closed doors, plays by different rules than what happens in the light of day.

01:43:58.000 So it's very possible that women can be high-powered and competent and confident and boss babes in real life and want to be even dominated behind closed doors. 1.00

01:44:11.000 I'll say it's a lot of times even more so.

01:44:12.000 Actually, yeah.

01:44:13.000 It's like I had a woman, a friend of mine, I dated briefly in college, and she later became a madam in a dungeon.

01:44:22.000 Ha! 0.89

01:44:23.000 She wasn't sleeping with the men, but she was doing all kinds of parasexual acts with them. 1.00

01:44:28.000 We brought a girl on that did that professionally. 1.00

01:44:30.000 Yeah.

01:44:31.000 It was very strange, but yeah.

01:44:32.000 She literally said, I have a dungeon.

01:44:33.000 I was like, we were like, what the hell?

01:44:35.000 These are men who are paying $400, $500 an hour and up.

01:44:38.000 And this was like 15 years ago.

01:44:40.000 So that's probably like $2,000 an hour by today's standards.

01:44:44.000 Yeah.

01:44:46.000 What were they paying her to do? 0.99

01:44:47.000 To step on his balls? 0.99

01:44:49.000 To catheterize him? 1.00

01:44:50.000 To treat him like shit, basically? 0.99

01:44:54.000 I mean, I think that if you reach a certain point and you can't have everything you want, the only experience you don't have is not being able to get what you want. 0.99

01:45:02.000 The only experience you don't have if you have all the power is powerlessness.

01:45:07.000 So it's the only place you can go on some level.

01:45:09.000 And that's true for both men and women.

01:45:11.000 Wow.

01:45:12.000 Okay.

01:45:12.000 That's why they say a lot of CEOs of companies go to these women for release.

01:45:16.000 Yeah.

01:45:17.000 You certainly have to be able to afford them.

01:45:19.000 Yes.

01:45:20.000 Buddha dog.

01:45:21.000 I'm 19 doing HVAC. Currently making 40k a year, but dislike my job.

01:45:25.000 Been thinking about the Army for benefits, overall cooler experience. 0.98

01:45:27.000 Am I stupid? 0.98

01:45:28.000 No, my friend. 0.99

01:45:29.000 Nothing wrong with going into military.

01:45:30.000 You get a bunch of benefits as well on the back end with the GI Bill and being able to get VA loans, etc.

01:45:34.000 So nothing wrong with that.

01:45:36.000 And you'll get some experience with an MLS. Who's up next?

01:45:40.000 Nerf Escobar goes, thanks for all the value guys.

01:45:41.000 Much love.

01:45:42.000 Also, Fresh looks like Michael Blackson's black son.

01:45:44.000 He definitely does.

01:45:44.000 Thank you, brother.

01:45:45.000 He black as hell. 1.00

01:45:46.000 Alex 223, do women test higher in psychopathy than men? 0.97

01:45:50.000 Is this the reason why they tend to be more attracted to dark triad traits in men?

01:45:54.000 Shout out FNF. Good question.

01:45:56.000 You know, I haven't read any research that says that women test higher in psychopathy than men.

01:46:00.000 I think that the reason why...

01:46:05.000 Hmm.

01:46:25.000 Narcissistic people don't have to do that. 1.00

01:46:28.000 They're not encumbered by that.

01:46:29.000 And so they kind of move through life like a wrecking ball, and it leaves smolder and ruin in its way.

01:46:35.000 Unless their life experience has humbled them, maybe through their parents, etc., which we were talking before.

01:46:40.000 Everyone is born narcissistic, right?

01:46:41.000 The baby crying in the crib.

01:46:42.000 That's true.

01:46:43.000 Give me milk.

01:46:44.000 And then we went into the situation with an attractive woman. 0.97

01:46:46.000 A lot of times it's very difficult for them to build that.

01:46:49.000 So it needs to be broken through life experience or something like that.

01:46:52.000 Yes.

01:46:52.000 A lot of beautiful women.

01:46:53.000 We didn't get to finish that part.

01:46:54.000 Yes.

01:47:06.000 Yes.

01:47:11.000 A wealthy guy is useless to a woman if he doesn't share that wealth with her. 0.77

01:47:16.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:47:16.000 So a guy might be competent and confident, but if he doesn't care enough to bring the woman in and nurture her within his space, he's useless to her in the long term.

01:47:28.000 So she might fall for the attractiveness in the short term, and then she'll get dissatisfied. 0.94

01:47:34.000 She'll fall in love with him and the potential in the dream.

01:47:36.000 That does happen.

01:47:37.000 Yeah.

01:47:38.000 But isn't it crazy?

01:47:39.000 She'll choose that guy, the bad boy, and then get mistreated and say, oh, I want to be a nice guy now.

01:47:44.000 Yeah.

01:47:44.000 Facts.

01:47:45.000 And that doesn't usually work, right?

01:47:45.000 Yeah.

01:47:47.000 Yeah.

01:47:48.000 Then the woman goes to the nice guy and she's bored. 1.00

01:47:50.000 Yeah.

01:47:51.000 Again.

01:47:52.000 Yeah.

01:47:54.000 Who's up next here?

01:47:55.000 Okay, so Black Vet goes, I'm a retired vet.

01:47:58.000 Never sub to no one, but help me so much.

01:48:01.000 I will getting better on home, gym, and money.

01:48:03.000 Even by the Myron Spanish book, my wife looked me crazy, but she not mad.

01:48:07.000 25 years married.

01:48:07.000 Congratulations to you, my friend.

01:48:09.000 All right.

01:48:11.000 AndrewGraph25, I didn't get the chance to view the emergency meeting live.

01:48:13.000 I just want to say that you guys are the number one men's podcast by far.

01:48:16.000 I'm with you guys till the end.

01:48:17.000 You guys changed my life for the better.

01:48:18.000 Thank you so much, Andrew.

01:48:19.000 Shout out to you, Andrew.

01:48:20.000 We're going to keep giving you all this value.

01:48:21.000 Then Andre goes, GG33, saying that Logan Paul made the call to get y'all to demonetize a smidge.

01:48:26.000 That's not true, guys.

01:48:27.000 I can tell you guys that.

01:48:28.000 Absolutely factual.

01:48:29.000 It was not Logan, and I have irrefutable proof.

01:48:34.000 It's not him at all.

01:48:35.000 I heard that Myers-Briggs is not backed by empirical research and was started by two women.

01:48:40.000 FFM is better.

01:48:42.000 Gracilla, the 304 maker, states men can't love.

01:48:45.000 Thoughts?

01:48:46.000 My understanding is that Myers-Briggs is based on personality trait theory from Myers-Briggs and actually Carl Jung.

01:48:53.000 So I think those are two men.

01:48:57.000 Is it backed by empirical research?

01:48:59.000 No.

01:49:01.000 Probably, but it's like modern day astrology these days.

01:49:06.000 And so people, I think, read more into it than is justified by the research.

01:49:12.000 We got Purple Mayo goes, psych sessions are prostitution for women just exchanging the other party's main commodity. 1.00

01:49:17.000 Men would pay women for box. 1.00

01:49:18.000 Women would pay men to listen to them for hours. 1.00

01:49:20.000 Okay.

01:49:22.000 Big Herms, what books would you recommend for manipulating people for my own benefit? 0.65

01:49:25.000 What the heck, bro?

01:49:27.000 What kind of question is that? 0.87

01:49:28.000 40 laws of power.

01:49:29.000 Robert Green.

01:49:31.000 Don't do that, man.

01:49:32.000 All therapy can do is teach you how to cope with your problems and feed you pills.

01:49:35.000 You can do that yourself without the pills with philosophy and improving fitness career-style skills.

01:49:40.000 Okay.

01:49:42.000 Bender, the offender, minor, first, y'all consider yourselves philanthropists. 1.00

01:49:45.000 Saw that mercy meeting yesterday, and I genuinely believe that y'all are honest, hard-working gentlemen.

01:49:48.000 Thank you so much, my friend.

01:49:49.000 We're just trying to help y'all out, man.

01:49:51.000 The Alpha Widow needs to also be a fitness brand.

01:49:54.000 The pink, fresh, and fit in Vice City font on the wall would be a sick logo for a chain of gyms and clothing line.

01:50:01.000 Also, let's crowdfund it.

01:50:02.000 Yeah, I mean, I've thought about opening a gym before.

01:50:05.000 I'll think about it.

01:50:07.000 We could do Alpha Elite in Miami.

01:50:08.000 Yeah.

01:50:09.000 I like what Christian Guzman has set up over there.

01:50:11.000 Hollywood Brian goes, I'm going on a walk for a first day trying to keep investment low, but how would I escalate and be fun in flirting situations like this?

01:50:19.000 Shout out to the FNF Gang.

01:50:20.000 Shout out to Dr. 0.80

01:50:21.000 Orion, too.

01:50:22.000 What's your take on this, Doc?

01:50:24.000 On a first date, as I was saying earlier, it's a good idea to keep your mouth shut.

01:50:30.000 A woman is there not because she likes you, but she likes the idea of you. 0.56

01:50:34.000 She can't really know you yet.

01:50:36.000 That's why it's a first date.

01:50:37.000 So she's there because she has a fantasy about you and what you could potentially offer.

01:50:42.000 The likelihood that anything that you say is going to actually accord with the fantasy she has of you in her mind is functionally zero.

01:50:49.000 So every time a man opens his mouth, he runs the risk of chipping away at that fantasy.

01:50:55.000 The biggest mistake that men make on first dates is trying to impress women.

01:50:59.000 Generally, the way that they go about doing that does not accord with the fantasy that they maintain in their heads.

01:51:04.000 You can't disabuse people of their fantasy too soon.

01:51:07.000 You have to do that eventually in the relationship, but if it's too soon, you're not going to get a second date.

01:51:12.000 Especially for women who fall in love through their ears.

01:51:15.000 You gotta be careful.

01:51:16.000 And just after your point as well, the more they talk about themselves to you, they feel like they know you better.

01:51:21.000 I don't know how that correlates, but they feel like they know you for years because like, oh, I can tell you anything.

01:51:26.000 I don't know anything about you.

01:51:27.000 And it's like, tell me everything, baby.

01:51:29.000 I got you.

01:51:30.000 There's some of that, for sure.

01:51:31.000 And if you ask good, provocative questions that...

01:51:35.000 They're not just like, what do you do?

01:51:37.000 Where are you from?

01:51:38.000 What are some of those that you use as a psychologist?

01:51:42.000 One thing that I'll...

01:51:42.000 Who is this guy that can employ?

01:51:43.000 I model how I want to be spoken to.

01:51:47.000 So I will, what I call it, self-involving self-disclosure.

01:51:52.000 The way that most guys screw this up is they keep...

01:51:57.000 It sounds like a job interview.

01:51:59.000 What are you looking for?

01:52:00.000 Where are you from?

01:52:00.000 What do you do?

01:52:01.000 That information is useless for building an emotional connection.

01:52:05.000 What people are really wanting is they want to feel you.

01:52:08.000 They want to know what...

01:52:10.000 They want to know what you're all about.

01:52:12.000 So what I do is I start by opening up about my emotional experience.

01:52:16.000 I talk about my day.

01:52:17.000 It's like, oh man, so I woke up late.

01:52:19.000 I was a little groggy.

01:52:20.000 I went down to the lobby and I got this fantastic, fancy, bougie pancake thing.

01:52:25.000 And then I went to Miami Beach.

01:52:27.000 The water was so warm and there were people out.

01:52:30.000 It was great.

01:52:31.000 I love those old Art Deco buildings with the neon.

01:52:34.000 It was cool.

01:52:35.000 Then I put on my suit and I came over to Fresh and Fat.

01:52:37.000 I never met these guys before.

01:52:38.000 I go through my day and I describe a progression of emotional experiences.

01:52:43.000 And as you were telling that story, I was imagining everything, which is very important.

01:52:46.000 You want to use vivid detail.

01:52:48.000 Yeah.

01:52:48.000 And basically what I'm sharing, I'm making a bid.

01:52:51.000 I'm saying, I'm opening up a little bit.

01:52:53.000 I'm not telling you about my insecurities.

01:52:55.000 I'm not telling you about my fears and my dark secrets.

01:52:58.000 I'm telling you about my actual emotional experience.

01:53:00.000 And it's inviting you, you know, the woman, to tell me about your emotional experience so that we can connect on an emotional level.

01:53:09.000 And I'm showing her by going first that I'm open to that kind of exchange.

01:53:13.000 Not only that, but, and I tell guys this, you always want to passively demonstrate higher value.

01:53:19.000 And with your story that you just told, you had a bunch of subtle flexes.

01:53:25.000 Oh, I was able to go to the beach.

01:53:27.000 It was really nice.

01:53:28.000 I'm in Miami, right?

01:53:30.000 I had a cake.

01:53:31.000 Oh, I went on a podcast, right?

01:53:32.000 And, you know, I went there in my soup, blah, blah, blah.

01:53:35.000 Nothing about that was braggy or egotistical, etc.

01:53:39.000 You're just simply describing your day in vivid detail, and that vivid detail allowed the woman to almost come to her own conclusion that, oh, he's doing these things, so therefore this guy is of higher value.

01:53:49.000 I'll liken this back to my profession.

01:53:52.000 When I was an agent, one of the things they tell you when you write your reports is, you're just the fact finder.

01:53:58.000 You write the facts and you let the reader come to their own conclusions.

01:54:02.000 You don't say, this person is the suspect, blah, blah, blah.

01:54:05.000 You just say, on such and such subject, say this, this, this, this, and then the person that's reading it can come to that conclusion and be like, Oh, wow.

01:54:12.000 Well, with all the circumstantial evidence you have here or whatever, yeah, this guy's probably guilty.

01:54:17.000 This guy probably committed.

01:54:18.000 He's the probable suspect, etc.

01:54:20.000 I think when you apply that to females as well, where you're just giving facts, maybe not in a boring matter of fact tone as a police report or, you know, government report, but you're doing it in vivid detail, etc.

01:54:31.000 You let her come to that logical conclusion.

01:54:33.000 We always say, you know, discovery trumps disclosure, right?

01:54:35.000 Totally.

01:54:36.000 Telling her I have a Lamborghini is not the same as you, you know, You're meeting for a date and she sees you drop your Lamborghini off a valet naturally and you never said a word.

01:54:45.000 You even downplay it to a degree.

01:54:47.000 I tell this to guys.

01:54:48.000 I say, if you have a Lamborghini and you want to take pictures of it, the best place for that Lamborghini is in the background.

01:54:54.000 You want to act like you're a guy of such status that the Lamborghini in the background that I guarantee everyone is going to notice is of such little consequence that it doesn't need to be the focus of the picture.

01:55:05.000 I tell guys for their Instagram, you need to be the focus.

01:55:08.000 All of your auxiliary items and, for example, chains and all that stuff needs to be a backdrop for you.

01:55:14.000 You're the personal brand.

01:55:15.000 You are the guy.

01:55:16.000 You are the star.

01:55:18.000 That's a very good take.

01:55:19.000 I'll just add as well to your first date approach that What I'll do is I'll talk to the girl, ask questions, of course, and then I'm listening to hear what she's saying.

01:55:29.000 So I'm doing active listening, and I respond with a question from what she said.

01:55:33.000 So I'll ask her, hey, I'm curious, like, how's work for you?

01:55:37.000 Like, what do you do for work?

01:55:38.000 Oh, I'm a nurse.

01:55:40.000 That's pretty stressful.

01:55:40.000 How do you handle that?

01:55:42.000 That's a lot of work to handle.

01:55:43.000 And, like, I'll build upon that each time she responds to me. 0.99

01:55:46.000 I'll bring her another question, and before you know it, she's like, damn. 0.98

01:55:49.000 I feel like I told you about me, but I don't know anything about you. 0.97

01:55:52.000 And I'm like, perfect.

01:55:53.000 Yeah.

01:55:54.000 Gotcha.

01:55:54.000 So you did some strategies there.

01:55:56.000 In therapy, I think we can call that mind reading.

01:56:00.000 It's like she didn't tell you that she had a stressful job.

01:56:03.000 She just told you the fact.

01:56:04.000 And you made a little guess.

01:56:06.000 Mm-hmm.

01:56:07.000 She could have said, no, I don't have a stressful job.

01:56:09.000 I love my job.

01:56:10.000 Why would you think that?

01:56:11.000 You know, potentially if she's feeling that way or she's not as attracted to you.

01:56:14.000 But you made a bid that understood her at a deeper level than her factual disclosure.

01:56:19.000 That's a little bit of a gambit and it often pays off, especially if you have accurate empathy.

01:56:24.000 For sure.

01:56:25.000 I like that.

01:56:27.000 I was going to say something else about this.

01:56:29.000 First date, walking in the park.

01:56:31.000 Yeah, you gave your vivid story.

01:56:33.000 I'm doing the Fresh Fit Podcast because we're answering his question about he's going to go on a first date with a girl walking.

01:56:37.000 Walking in the park.

01:56:37.000 And you said that you phrased your questions how you would like to be spoken to.

01:56:40.000 And you tell a story and then the person responds that you...

01:56:44.000 Yeah.

01:56:44.000 I got it.

01:56:45.000 So another amazing tactic.

01:56:49.000 Therapists use it all the time.

01:56:50.000 It's the foundational therapeutic tactic is reflection.

01:56:54.000 A lot of guys, myself included, used to think that this was pointless.

01:56:58.000 Reflection is basically where you just summarize and say back what you've heard.

01:57:03.000 So for example, what I heard you say is that oftentimes when you go out on dates, you'll ask her about her job and she'll tell you the information, but then you'll go a little bit deeper into that and she'll respond positively to that.

01:57:14.000 Yes, that is very true.

01:57:15.000 Now you feel heard.

01:57:17.000 Yes.

01:57:40.000 Like, we're really here to exchange information about our jobs.

01:57:43.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:57:44.000 And you miss the entire opportunity of that conversation.

01:57:48.000 I think what you just said is extremely important.

01:57:50.000 Again, I hate to bring it back to my profession from before, but this is what I used to do with suspects.

01:57:54.000 I'd get the story.

01:57:56.000 And then I'd summarize it back to them.

01:57:59.000 And what this allows is, number one, right?

01:58:01.000 And this works with women, too. 1.00

01:58:02.000 Oh, he actually listened.

01:58:04.000 Wow.

01:58:04.000 And then also, they'll clarify things that you might have gotten wrong.

01:58:08.000 Sure.

01:58:08.000 And offer up other pieces of information, right?

01:58:11.000 Sometimes I might even purposely mistake something in my summarization so that they can clarify it.

01:58:17.000 Because I know that they're going to clarify and disclose other information that I'm interested in hearing.

01:58:21.000 Right?

01:58:21.000 It's a way to elicit information without even doing it because it's human nature where if you say something, you want to be interpreted the way that you said it.

01:58:29.000 You don't want to necessarily have someone put their own negative connotation on it and you will go ahead and correct them even though it might hurt you to a degree because you might not want to be seen as a certain character or whatever it may be.

01:58:39.000 So guys need to understand that a skill set is being able to listen, summarize it, and then once you get really skilled, summarize it even maybe a little bit off so they can clarify and you can get the information that you want.

01:58:50.000 You do it all the time.

01:58:51.000 That's how it goes Colombian.

01:58:52.000 Are you Venezuelan?

01:58:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:58:54.000 You know, something like that.

01:58:56.000 I'm not Venezuelan!

01:58:56.000 I do it on the podcast.

01:58:58.000 I'll summarize what they're saying, etc.

01:59:00.000 So that's actually a very good skill set, but you guys got to actively listen to be able to do that.

01:59:04.000 I worked the first two years as a trainee therapist in outpatient substance abuse.

01:59:09.000 So I was working with alcoholics and other addicts.

01:59:11.000 And that's where I learned the skill of motivational interviewing.

01:59:13.000 They teach you MI. At the agency?

01:59:16.000 Yeah.

01:59:16.000 Okay.

01:59:17.000 So with addicts, you're often dealing with people who aren't yet ready to change.

01:59:22.000 And addicts are often very touchy about Yeah,

01:59:54.000 of course.

01:59:58.000 Well, I don't know.

01:59:59.000 I didn't say that.

01:59:59.000 I mean, like, sometimes I'm hungover.

02:00:01.000 It's like, oh, I mean, really?

02:00:03.000 So you're experiencing some issues?

02:00:04.000 Is that what you're saying?

02:00:05.000 Like, before you know it, the person is telling me all the bad things that come with his addiction just because I overstated his position, which is that there was no problems whatsoever.

02:00:15.000 That wasn't correct.

02:00:17.000 And now he's telling me that he has a problem, which is much better than me trying to explain to him that he has a problem, right?

02:00:24.000 So motivational interviewing when it's done well is overwhelming.

02:00:28.000 Almost hypnotic.

02:00:29.000 Like, the way that skilled interviewers can work with people's resistance in a frictionless way to move towards greater understanding is phenomenal.

02:00:40.000 It's a really useful skill in therapy.

02:00:42.000 I'm sure it's useful in law enforcement, and it's very useful on dating.

02:00:46.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:00:47.000 Well said.

02:00:48.000 All right, so, well, what else do we got here?

02:00:52.000 And I'm going to fly through. 0.96

02:00:53.000 Sebastian, you should know, Rumble only show the join button when it's a VOD. The subscribe button is only on live broadcast.

02:00:59.000 Currently, you should ask Chris and add it to VODs too to get more subs.

02:01:02.000 Yes, don't worry.

02:01:03.000 That's a very good point.

02:01:04.000 That's something that I literally was on the phone with him about.

02:01:05.000 So don't worry.

02:01:06.000 That's coming very soon.

02:01:08.000 Yeah, Fresh, actually.

02:01:09.000 Good call to take a picture.

02:01:11.000 But yeah, right now that we're live, guys, hit that subscribe button, right?

02:01:14.000 Do me that favor.

02:01:15.000 Join up.

02:01:16.000 We want to get 10,000 strong, man.

02:01:18.000 Better subscribe.

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02:01:22.000 It's only five bucks, guys, and it goes a long way towards keeping Rumble alive.

02:01:25.000 Because if Rumble dies, we die with it, man.

02:01:27.000 And Rumble is the last Bastion of Free Speech, right?

02:01:30.000 A.K.A. for Bastion X. We got here at DLC. I don't like Rumble, but I love Fresh and Fit, so I'm here.

02:01:35.000 Keep reading from the front, John.

02:01:36.000 Thank you so much, man.

02:01:38.000 Shout out to you, bro.

02:01:39.000 Shout out to you, man.

02:01:40.000 And don't worry, guys.

02:01:41.000 We're still going to be on YouTube, but, you know, all of our content is going to be over here, but we're going to still be on YouTube to a degree.

02:01:47.000 Ephra 42, and the Old Testament wives that were infertile or wanted more children had the husbands impregnate their female servants.

02:01:52.000 Servants then became subwives after blessings from God. 0.63

02:01:55.000 Okay?

02:01:55.000 Ephra.

02:01:57.000 Born during war.

02:01:57.000 Have you guys ever considered creating a website for your content?

02:02:00.000 Also, I don't see the subscribe button.

02:02:01.000 Subscribe button, you got to do it on the web, my friend.

02:02:03.000 On a live video.

02:02:04.000 On a live video, on the web.

02:02:05.000 It doesn't work in the iOS app yet.

02:02:07.000 So Chrome or Safari?

02:02:08.000 Yeah.

02:02:09.000 And I'll show y'all.

02:02:10.000 I'll do a quick demonstration after we go through these.

02:02:13.000 Let's keep going here.

02:02:14.000 And guys, like I said before, we're about 10K, y'all, in here.

02:02:16.000 So we're going to only read 20 and up.

02:02:18.000 These came in from before.

02:02:19.000 These are coming from before?

02:02:20.000 Yeah, before.

02:02:20.000 Okay, the fact that there are some loyal watchers here still watching on YouTube...

02:02:24.000 It's disgusting.

02:02:25.000 These are the same types of men that aren't driven to go to the gym today. 0.55

02:02:28.000 Yeah, it is what it is, man.

02:02:30.000 We appreciate you guys coming over and supporting.

02:02:32.000 People are used to being on the platform.

02:02:33.000 Yeah, it is what it is.

02:02:34.000 And we're still going to be on YouTube.

02:02:35.000 Don't worry, guys.

02:02:36.000 But, you know, Rumble is where it's going to be at.

02:02:38.000 Right now, you guys are seeing we're giving you all the real sauce over here.

02:02:41.000 Yeah.

02:02:42.000 Brad goes, interesting stuff.

02:02:44.000 What schools would you recommend in the Bay Area?

02:02:47.000 I don't really know.

02:02:49.000 I didn't grow up in the Bay Area.

02:02:51.000 The Bay Area is sort of ground zero for psychotherapy schools.

02:02:55.000 There's like six or seven professional schools in the Bay Area.

02:03:00.000 To me, grad school was something of a necessary evil and I even went on to teach.

02:03:08.000 I understood that the vision I had for my life, I needed a degree in order to get the license, and once I had the license, I could sell my services in the open market.

02:03:17.000 And so it didn't really matter to me so much where I went.

02:03:21.000 I did go to my first choice school, but to me it was like, I'll jump through the hoops, I'll do what I need to do, I'll get the degree so that I can move forward with my business vision.

02:03:30.000 I'll do what's required to get where I want.

02:03:32.000 Okay.

02:03:35.000 And that's this one right there, guys.

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02:03:42.000 I almost lost myself in 2022 until when I discovered Fresh and Fit.

02:03:46.000 Thank you so much, bro.

02:03:47.000 You got it, bro.

02:03:48.000 These mother effers deserve more than $5 a month. 1.00

02:03:51.000 You guys would truly save lives.

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02:03:53.000 Join the locals, bro.

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02:03:55.000 It's $20.

02:03:56.000 Join in there.

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02:03:57.000 And you can see all the pre-streams as well.

02:03:59.000 Oh, that shows.

02:04:00.000 Okay.

02:04:00.000 He's already a subscriber.

02:04:02.000 Okay, subscriber.

02:04:03.000 And is the whale locals?

02:04:05.000 Yes.

02:04:06.000 Okay.

02:04:06.000 Shout out to you, my friend.

02:04:07.000 Thank you so much.

02:04:08.000 I saw some pinky in the brain laughing at you guys, but let's see how it ends. 1.00

02:04:12.000 Stay strong, fresh, and fit.

02:04:13.000 Don't worry. 1.00

02:04:14.000 The haters, they don't realize that we got an army, so they're We're not a drama, stupid reaction channel. 1.00

02:04:23.000 Madara, I'm 21. 1.00

02:04:24.000 I don't have any friends.

02:04:25.000 I struggle with approaching and starting conversations with people.

02:04:27.000 What advice would you have for me?

02:04:29.000 What can I do to better build my social skills?

02:04:32.000 Great question.

02:04:33.000 So start small.

02:04:34.000 So go to a public place and just make eye contact with people.

02:04:48.000 Okay.

02:05:06.000 The way I describe it is you have something in common with every human being on this planet.

02:05:12.000 It should only take you six back and forth to figure out what that is.

02:05:17.000 And if you learn to listen, you can zero in on what common ground you authentically share with another human being.

02:05:25.000 And boom, you have an instant friend.

02:05:27.000 An emotional connection has been formed.

02:05:29.000 And one of the best ways to do that is to be a generous communicator.

02:05:32.000 So for example, if you were to ask me...

02:05:35.000 What do you do?

02:05:36.000 And if I said, I'm a psychologist, I'm not really giving you much to go with.

02:05:40.000 Yeah.

02:05:58.000 And I've also modeled generous communication, so hopefully you're going to tell me some more information.

02:06:03.000 Within a few back and forth, we're going to hit something that we both authentically enjoy, and boom, we're off to the races.

02:06:09.000 It's a game.

02:06:10.000 Yeah, it really is.

02:06:11.000 And if you are the first one to give, a lot of the times people feel strange if they don't reciprocate.

02:06:16.000 So that's a good tactic right there.

02:06:18.000 Sure.

02:06:20.000 So yeah, dude, that's one way to go about it, my friend.

02:06:23.000 Actionable steps.

02:06:24.000 And then also do things that you like and meet people that do those things.

02:06:27.000 Men typically tend to bond through activities and a shared mission.

02:06:32.000 So try to meet people that share similar physical interests that you do.

02:06:37.000 I don't care if it's playing Warhammer at the hobby club or something like that or chess or playing a sport or going to the gym, but find something that you guys can bond on physically and a shared mission.

02:06:50.000 And Wales means that they've That they've Rommel ranted often.

02:06:55.000 Oh, okay.

02:06:56.000 Shout out to you.

02:06:57.000 Question.

02:06:58.000 Met this female a while back.

02:06:59.000 Met all the requirements, but she had a boyfriend.

02:07:01.000 Now she hit me up single.

02:07:02.000 Told her what I'm looking for.

02:07:03.000 Said she's not ready, but still hits me up even though I cut contact.

02:07:06.000 How to handle?

02:07:07.000 This is a good one.

02:07:08.000 This happens to so many guys.

02:07:10.000 Yeah.

02:07:12.000 Hmm.

02:07:14.000 You want me to go first?

02:07:15.000 Oh, sorry.

02:07:15.000 Go ahead.

02:07:16.000 You take it first.

02:07:16.000 Like I said earlier, when a woman reaches out, it's because she's thinking about you in that moment.

02:07:22.000 She's missing you in that moment, and she wants to connect with you.

02:07:26.000 Sometimes, though, when women reach out, especially if they reach out repeatedly after they seem to have rejected you, they're testing whether you're still there.

02:07:34.000 A lot of women just want the comfort of knowing that they can get attention on demand and that there's a man waiting in the wings. 1.00

02:07:42.000 Yeah.

02:07:42.000 So I think that if you've made it clear what your intentions are vis-a-vis a specific woman, and for whatever reason she says, I don't really want that relationship with you, or I'm not ready for that kind of thing, say, hey, no problem, hit me up when you are.

02:07:55.000 You know, some weeks, some months, some years might go by, you get that call, and you can assume in that moment that she's ready to move things forward.

02:08:03.000 But it could just be a test.

02:08:05.000 If you then ask her out, And say, okay, great.

02:08:09.000 Nice to hear from you.

02:08:10.000 Why don't we get a drink and catch up?

02:08:11.000 And she says, oh yeah, I'm not really.

02:08:13.000 You say, hey, no problem.

02:08:14.000 And then you never bring it up again.

02:08:17.000 She might reach out, but I wouldn't respond every time.

02:08:23.000 And if I did respond, I would respond with very low apparent interest.

02:08:28.000 That woman knows what you want. 1.00

02:08:30.000 So she knows how to unlock greater attention if she's so motivated to do.

02:08:35.000 It's not like it's a mystery.

02:08:36.000 She doesn't know what she needs to say or do in order to capture more of your attention.

02:08:40.000 But again, you don't want to give that attention away for free.

02:08:42.000 One way to screen is like, hey, let's go get a drink.

02:08:46.000 If girls play games, you just invite them straight to the house like that. 1.00

02:08:52.000 The more games she's played, the less she deserves money. 1.00

02:08:56.000 Any type of commitment on your end?

02:08:59.000 The problem is, if you meet her under that premise because you told her what you wanted from the very beginning and she wants to do something different, you meet her under her program, which means you're following her pattern, you're following her setup, which is going to take me out for you.

02:09:10.000 So I would just say, if she's not following you on your program, then what's the point of meeting her?

02:09:14.000 And I want to also bring some attention to what the doc was saying, which I think is very important for the guys to know.

02:09:18.000 They polled a bunch of married women and they said something around 50% of married women have a backup guy.

02:09:24.000 It's only 50?

02:09:25.000 Yeah, it's probably higher, but they don't want it.

02:09:27.000 It's self-reported, and we know how that goes.

02:09:28.000 There you go.

02:09:29.000 I don't think men understand the importance of backup men for women in their sexual strategy and how that greatly influences their perceived value, how they view the world, how they view men in general.

02:09:44.000 It creates a lot of comfort and security for them to know that there's other men out there.

02:09:48.000 And that's why one of the number one things I do if a girl does want something serious with me is I tell them, you're not having no guy friends either.

02:09:54.000 Like, you're not going to sit there and enjoy the comfort of potentially having some other simp in the background, right?

02:10:00.000 Because I already know he's always going to be there, so you might as well cut him off now, right?

02:10:03.000 Because I'm not going to sit here and talk about that because when women think that they have options, they can replace you. 1.00

02:10:08.000 Behavior changes a lot of the time.

02:10:09.000 So I'm trying to mitigate risk. 0.97

02:10:11.000 People can call me an asshole or whatever, but I look at myself as I'm a lovable dictator. 0.98

02:10:16.000 And I think women want a dictator, both in the bedroom, physically, literally, and outside of the bedroom as well. 1.00

02:10:22.000 A benevolent dictatorship.

02:10:23.000 Yes, a benevolent dictatorship.

02:10:24.000 Well, what we're really talking about here is that optionality is power.

02:10:28.000 And that's one of the main reasons why women have... 1.00

02:10:32.000 They would be loathe to give up an Instagram account, say, with 100,000 male followers.

02:10:37.000 They will fight tooth and nail to have that Instagram.

02:10:37.000 Yes.

02:10:40.000 And they might say, and they might be correct, that they would never...

02:10:54.000 But that's why that occurs.

02:11:12.000 And it's another reason why a lot of guys would be loathe to give up some of his other women when he's entering into a monogamistic relationship if that serves him.

02:11:22.000 Yeah.

02:11:23.000 It's a power struggle because once she has that leverage of saying, you know what, I can find guys here.

02:11:27.000 If you don't do what I want, I can go over here.

02:11:29.000 Okay, well, bye.

02:11:31.000 I can leave.

02:11:32.000 It needs to be unilateral disarmament if you're going to go down that road.

02:11:35.000 And this is something that I think would save a lot of relationships.

02:11:40.000 Men don't hit women. 1.00

02:11:42.000 We don't look kindly on that.

02:12:03.000 In a no-holds-barred verbal argument, most women will mop the floor with most men. 1.00

02:12:09.000 They are more emotionally aggressive.

02:12:12.000 They know more emotional judo and kung fu than men do. 0.87

02:12:31.000 Yes.

02:12:32.000 Yes.

02:12:47.000 So, if power is a fact of life, power is a fact of every relationship, but if the imbalance gets too much, it generally leads to corruption and all forms of abuse, regardless of whether it's the man who's more powerful or the woman.

02:13:01.000 And she thinks what?

02:13:02.000 She's better than you.

02:13:03.000 Yeah.

02:13:04.000 Though I agree with you that too much power will corrupt, right?

02:13:08.000 I forget what's the phrase.

02:13:09.000 Absolutely power corrupts absolutely.

02:13:11.000 Yeah.

02:13:12.000 I think it's better wielded by the man than by the woman. 1.00

02:13:16.000 You can make that argument.

02:13:18.000 One definition that I read of evil is...

02:13:23.000 That really resonated with me is that evil is the unsurrendered will, which is sort of like narcissism.

02:13:28.000 It's that I am...

02:13:30.000 nothing is higher than my own desires.

02:13:32.000 I'm not going to surrender to any kind of ethic or higher principle.

02:13:38.000 Evil, what was it again?

02:13:39.000 Surrenders to no will?

02:13:40.000 It's the unsurrendered will.

02:13:42.000 What I want is law.

02:13:45.000 What I want is the only I don't recognize anything higher than myself.

02:13:53.000 I think that's a pretty decent working definition of evil.

02:13:59.000 It's not that women can't do this. 0.99

02:14:00.000 It's like Ayn Rand did objectivism, but there's not a lot of female philosophers. 1.00

02:14:05.000 There's not a lot of females who have personal ethics. 1.00

02:14:09.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:14:11.000 There's not a lot of female Batmans who are surrendering to a certain personal code that they live by and they might die by. 1.00

02:14:19.000 So what you're saying about men potentially wielding power...

02:14:25.000 Better than women comes, I think, from the fact that men often will have these personal codes that they're willing to surrender their behavior to more often than women do. 0.99

02:14:36.000 Damn. 0.97

02:14:38.000 So they can potentially handle it more responsibly because they see themselves as submitting to a higher purpose, and so they're actually just implementing this higher code. 0.99

02:14:49.000 That is enlightened leadership.

02:14:55.000 There's a phrase.

02:14:56.000 All I have in this world is my balls of my word, right?

02:14:59.000 And there's a phrase as well to touch that, that I'm a man of my word.

02:15:04.000 I've never heard anything that says I'm a woman of my word or I'm a woman of integrity.

02:15:09.000 These codes and these phrases and these sayings, There's no feminine version of it, typically. 0.99

02:15:16.000 It's typically a masculine thing.

02:15:18.000 Honor, code, adhering to something, you know, being honorable, all these things.

02:15:23.000 Like, we don't hold women to these masculine traits, right?

02:15:27.000 So, I mean, maybe sexual fidelity, right?

02:15:30.000 That's a component of loyalty.

02:15:32.000 But with everything else, we don't really hold women to the same standards.

02:15:34.000 We kind of tell men, do what's right, and we tell women, do what's right for you. 0.55

02:15:39.000 And yeah, that's a fantastic way to put it, why men need to be in the powership roles, because men are more likely to have a code, and that code will keep the evil at bay.

02:15:51.000 And there's a lot of spineless men out there who are in positions of power that are very...

02:15:56.000 It's hard to follow them.

02:15:57.000 And they're not doing a lot of good in those positions.

02:16:01.000 Yeah, I got to give you Don DeMarco.

02:16:04.000 And it was Absolute Power Absolutely Corrupts.

02:16:08.000 Wait, there was something I wanted to say that we were talking about before the Absolute Power.

02:16:15.000 We're discussing it before because it was something I was going to say.

02:16:18.000 Power absolutely corrupts evil.

02:16:20.000 Super chat.

02:16:22.000 What was that chat again, Mo?

02:16:24.000 Can you bring it back up?

02:16:28.000 Yeah, she wants attention. 1.00

02:16:29.000 We talked about that.

02:16:30.000 When you were talking about...

02:16:30.000 Oh!

02:16:33.000 You're using the analogy that hitting a woman is socially unacceptable because men are physically superior to women, which obviously we all here at the table can agree. 0.98

02:16:43.000 You never raise your hand at a woman.

02:16:44.000 You guys saw it on the show where literally a girl hit me in the back and I just, whatever, right?

02:16:50.000 You just call the police.

02:16:51.000 It is what it is because if you, yeah, don't hit them back.

02:16:54.000 And that's kind of what it is.

02:16:56.000 And men kind of understand and accept this and it's societally enforced, right?

02:17:01.000 But with women, they have an overwhelming advantage with optionality. 1.00

02:17:06.000 And if you tell them, hey, that needs to be curbed to be in any real relationship of consequence with me, a lot of them will hem and haw and I'm not doing that and you're insecure or you're toxic, etc.

02:17:20.000 But by the same token, it's not like I'm telling you we need to arm wrestle every day and you need to win.

02:17:28.000 That'd be unreasonable, correct?

02:17:30.000 So we're not going to arm wrestle because I know I'm going to win.

02:17:32.000 Okay, cool.

02:17:32.000 Well, you're not going to have an Instagram because I know that you have optionality and that can put our relationship in jeopardy.

02:17:38.000 I think I understand what you're saying now.

02:17:40.000 No one gives up power willingly.

02:17:43.000 It's either because somebody fights for it or there are consequences that are respected as a consequence of holding on to that power.

02:17:50.000 So when you say control, that's probably what you mean is that a woman is not going to We're good to go. 1.00

02:18:24.000 My assessment, though it's grim, it might be a negative, and I want to get your take on this stock.

02:18:28.000 I think that they're not going to.

02:18:30.000 I think it's going to get worse before it gets better because women have fought really hard for the inequality that they now enjoy, and they're able to still get the benefit of chivalry to some degree. 0.98

02:18:40.000 And being courted and they still have the optionality, so they're literally able to get the best of all worlds.

02:18:45.000 They can be treated like a lady on dates, etc., while still being taken seriously from a professional standpoint.

02:18:50.000 They have more college access than ever.

02:18:52.000 So why would they yield any of the levers that they've been able to accumulate over the last 70 years thanks to feminism? 1.00

02:18:57.000 It's going to get worse before it gets better, guys.

02:18:59.000 So I think guys need to just adapt to the new normal versus hoping women are going to go back to aprons in the 1950s. 0.89

02:19:04.000 I don't know what's your take on that.

02:19:05.000 Yeah, we're not going back to those traditional days.

02:19:08.000 We're not going to repeal women's right to vote, and I don't think that we should. 1.00

02:19:13.000 So here's one way to conceptualize this.

02:19:18.000 So I just made an episode about this.

02:19:20.000 It hasn't been published yet, but I found it to be really interesting that almost every traditional gender role in today's day and age has been questioned, has been examined, except for There's probably a few, but except this one, which is the man still makes the offer.

02:19:36.000 The offer could be you up.

02:19:39.000 The offer could be, hey, can I buy you a drink?

02:19:41.000 The offer could be, will you marry me?

02:19:43.000 But the women are still waiting for the offer. 1.00

02:19:46.000 And that's very strange because there doesn't seem to be anything inherent in that situation that suggests that the man has to do that and the woman has to wait.

02:19:54.000 Especially when we've examined all these other traditional roles and said, no, that's not inherent to men or inherent to women.

02:19:59.000 Women can do that. 1.00

02:19:59.000 Men can do this. 1.00

02:20:00.000 But women are still waiting for the offer. 1.00

02:20:02.000 Why would that be the case?

02:20:04.000 Especially the most attractive ones.

02:20:06.000 Who is in a more privileged position?

02:20:09.000 When I'm cold calling you to try to get on your show, or when you call me up trying to get me on your show, you know what I'm saying?

02:20:17.000 Which is better, trying to send a resume to a company that didn't ask for it, or waiting to get a call for a potential job offer?

02:20:24.000 It automatically puts you in a more advantageous bargaining posture relative to that opportunity.

02:20:30.000 Women understand that. 1.00

02:20:32.000 Maybe they don't understand that explicitly or consciously, but they understand that the person, they're already in a more privileged position if the man is approaching her than the other way around.

02:20:43.000 And I think that's why that has never really been examined or questioned.

02:20:49.000 There's a lot of women, 25% of women over 40 today are unmarried and childless. 0.92

02:20:56.000 And that's gone up...

02:20:59.000 What's the percentage again?

02:21:00.000 25%.

02:21:01.000 One in four women at 40 are unmarried and childless today.

02:21:06.000 And that's gone up 10% in the last 10 years.

02:21:09.000 10 years ago, it was only 15%.

02:21:11.000 It's 40 or up, you said?

02:21:12.000 One in four?

02:21:13.000 One in four, 25%.

02:21:14.000 It's probably going to go up to one in three very soon.

02:21:16.000 Yeah.

02:21:17.000 And to the extent that that's a problem, you would think that eventually they might buy a ring and get down on their knee, but they don't do that.

02:21:24.000 And I wonder why.

02:21:25.000 It's almost like if the power struggle is, I have the power, but I want your power as well.

02:21:31.000 So come to me with the offer because I'm taking your power away.

02:21:37.000 Well, it's a double-edged sword because if a woman actually succeeds in taking away a man's power, then the basis of her attraction is also undermined. 1.00

02:21:44.000 Because no woman actually wants to end up with a powerless man. 0.63

02:21:47.000 That's an unattractive man.

02:21:49.000 That's an unsuccessful man. 1.00

02:21:50.000 That's a useless man. 0.99

02:21:51.000 They try to change you, though. 1.00

02:21:53.000 They try.

02:21:54.000 It's a man's job to not allow that to happen.

02:21:57.000 You guys are both right.

02:22:00.000 She'll try to change you. 1.00

02:22:01.000 It's your job to fight that.

02:22:03.000 I don't like your beard.

02:22:04.000 Yeah.

02:22:04.000 Well, too bad.

02:22:06.000 Too bad.

02:22:06.000 You picked me.

02:22:07.000 That's how you found me.

02:22:07.000 Yeah.

02:22:08.000 All right.

02:22:09.000 Where are we at here?

02:22:10.000 Moe. 0.93

02:22:14.000 What?

02:22:15.000 You good on time?

02:22:16.000 Yeah, I'm feeling good.

02:22:17.000 This has been a great conversation.

02:22:19.000 Oh, yeah.

02:22:19.000 Because I got some questions on your videos now, too, as well.

02:22:23.000 And then, Charlie, why are women who have been engaged in sexual relations with more than 50 men concerned about men who sleep with multiple women?

02:22:29.000 They do not seem concerned about contracting an STD. Yeah, well, they're not really too concerned, bro.

02:22:35.000 It's just that, you know, yeah.

02:22:37.000 Girls are hoes nowadays, let's be honest. 1.00

02:22:39.000 Charlie.

02:22:40.000 Dapper Dave, 2021.

02:22:42.000 What does Hacks think about dealing with and overcoming with someone you can't change?

02:22:45.000 Their video where they ask different women if they would take a 70k, 6 foot, or 250k, 5 for 5 guy, all said first guy.

02:22:53.000 This is a great question.

02:22:55.000 So, I was doing a consultation with a guy the other day who was feeling not confident with respect to approaching him.

02:23:03.000 And how can people get you in contact with you to do a consultation, by the way?

02:23:06.000 Oh, go to my website.

02:23:07.000 It's linked on my YouTube channel.

02:23:09.000 That's the easiest way to do it.

02:23:11.000 It's orionterabandsid.com.

02:23:13.000 It's kind of a mouthful.

02:23:14.000 Let's throw that out in the description.

02:23:16.000 Okay.

02:23:17.000 Great.

02:23:17.000 Thanks, guys.

02:23:18.000 So I was doing a consultation with this guy, and he wasn't feeling very confident.

02:23:21.000 And I said, well, what's the problem, man?

02:23:22.000 You seem like you're a decent-looking guy.

02:23:24.000 And he said, I'm...

02:23:25.000 I'm bald, you know, and I'm 29 and I'm ashamed of that.

02:23:29.000 Or height is a big deal for guys and there's not much you can do, if anything, to change your height, right?

02:23:34.000 So my advice for guys like this is you have to understand that you, especially if you don't know, if another person doesn't know who you are, you teach them how they should feel about you in how you present yourself and how you speak about yourself.

02:23:49.000 And on some level, you have to be a salesman.

02:23:53.000 Now, a good salesman believes that his product is the best product on market.

02:23:58.000 At this price point, in this class of automobile, it will do exactly what you need to do.

02:24:02.000 And they know all the competitors' inferiorities.

02:24:04.000 They know their superiorities.

02:24:05.000 They highlight their superiorities versus the competition.

02:24:08.000 Yeah, they know the market well.

02:24:09.000 So you need to believe in your product 100% because if you don't, why would you expect anybody else to?

02:24:16.000 The second thing that I ask people to do is, I'm taking this from programmers, to consider that it's not a bug, it's a feature.

02:24:23.000 So the thing that they think is bad or negative, there is a positive reframe or attribution that you can make of that same thing.

02:24:32.000 Like, for example, research has demonstrated that Higher testosterone levels are associated with hair loss.

02:24:39.000 It's like why a lot of bodybuilders are bald.

02:24:41.000 There's a lot of sexy men who are bald, like Bruce Willis, for example.

02:24:46.000 The Rock.

02:24:47.000 Absolutely, right?

02:24:48.000 Andrew Tate, pause.

02:24:49.000 It's not a flaw, it's a feature.

02:24:52.000 This is a good thing that you're getting a bald guy because it means that you have a high T man who's associated with all these other prestigious muscular men as well.

02:25:01.000 Do you understand?

02:25:02.000 Yeah, absolutely. 1.00

02:25:03.000 And it's for somebody else to potentially call your bullshit, but you don't want to blow the whistle on yourself. 1.00

02:25:09.000 Of course. 0.99

02:25:10.000 Don't make it easier for people to reject you.

02:25:14.000 Don't help them.

02:25:15.000 Alright.

02:25:16.000 What else do we got here, Mo?

02:25:17.000 I actually had a question.

02:25:18.000 Yeah, go ahead.

02:25:19.000 When Myron was pointing out the 50%, the wives having 50% backup, you actually had made a face where it was like, only 50%?

02:25:29.000 Are you actually alluding that there's probably much more Oh, I think so, man.

02:25:34.000 I mean, in my experience, it's not that women have a plan B. They have a plan B, C, D, D. They have a plan down to E. They're like, if this guy doesn't work out, I might be able to get back with my ex. 1.00

02:25:43.000 And if that doesn't work, the guy in eighth grade might still be single and showed me some love.

02:25:47.000 So they might not Be actually able to secure those relationships, but at least that safety net gives them some room to maneuver and some confidence to negotiate more aggressively in their current relationship.

02:26:02.000 So many guys I work with have that scarcity mentality and they understand how difficult it is for them to get a woman.

02:26:19.000 Yeah.

02:26:30.000 And that's a false dichotomy.

02:26:31.000 That's not true.

02:26:33.000 But that's where a lot of guys' minds are.

02:26:35.000 And so they put up with a lot of nonsense that they have no business putting up with because they think at least it's better than nothing.

02:26:42.000 How important is sexual experience with women in today's day and age and deregulated sexual marketplace from your professional opinion?

02:26:53.000 I think it's always been important for a man to know his way around the bedroom.

02:26:58.000 And no one really teaches guys how to do that.

02:27:01.000 And I meant to say, sorry, from a holistic standpoint, like being with a lot of women, dating them, have dealt with them, interacted with them, having a certain notch count.

02:27:08.000 Me, I say you need to have at least 50 before you think.

02:27:10.000 Experiences.

02:27:11.000 Yeah, you need to have at least a 50-notch count before you take any woman seriously in the West. 0.96

02:27:15.000 I don't know what your take is on that.

02:27:17.000 Maybe you have a number in your mind or you just say, no, you just need to have a certain level of experience.

02:27:21.000 But I think that scarcity mindset that a lot of your clients exhibit, I think that's a byproduct of guys not understanding that you need to go out and deal with a lot of women to figure out that they're really not that special and you almost kind of desensitize yourself to the female mystique.

02:27:35.000 What's your take on that?

02:27:36.000 I don't have a hard number, like 50, but I think your essential point is fair.

02:27:40.000 It's like men need to have a variety of experiences with a lot of different women.

02:27:45.000 They call this the bias of small sample sizes.

02:27:48.000 If I were to do a study with like four people and they gave me a certain result and I try to generalize that as a As a universal law, it's most likely not going to be true because if two of those people were just weirdos because of the random sampling that I did,

02:28:05.000 I might think that half of all people are this way.

02:28:08.000 That's why robust studies have sample sizes of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people because that weirdness sort of gets distributed evenly over the population so we can make more stable conclusions.

02:28:18.000 So you need to have a variety of experience to know, is this all women or is that just that nutty girl that you happen to date?

02:28:26.000 And until you, and you also alluded to something else that is important, which is most young men start out as romantics.

02:28:33.000 Yeah.

02:28:34.000 And they, romance has a very incorrect view of how dating and mating works.

02:28:40.000 Yeah, so true, yeah.

02:28:42.000 So, they have to generally be disabused of that, often painfully, through their experiences with women.

02:28:49.000 Yeah.

02:28:50.000 I don't have a, you know, it's got to be 50.

02:28:52.000 I do often counsel guys to not even consider getting married or into a long-term relationship until they're at least 35.

02:28:58.000 Dude, that's my number.

02:28:59.000 35?

02:29:00.000 I literally, this is my, I'd say, 35 years old, make it six figures a year, six months to a year of money and savings, in shape, 50 women. 0.95

02:29:08.000 Okay, this is cool.

02:29:09.000 So we talked about being a captain earlier and you kind of resonated with that.

02:29:12.000 Yeah.

02:29:13.000 I have this whole metaphor about the sexual marketplace being a dock and the guys are like in front of their ships and the women are going around the pier trying to figure out what boat they want to get on.

02:29:22.000 Okay?

02:29:23.000 Now, if you're a captain, you have three things you got to do.

02:29:25.000 You got to build a ship.

02:29:27.000 You've got to learn to sail, and you've got to plot a course.

02:29:30.000 If you have those three things, you're a captain.

02:29:33.000 If you don't have those three things, you're not a captain yet.

02:29:35.000 I'm going to write this down.

02:29:37.000 Steal this from you, man.

02:29:38.000 I'll give you credit, though.

02:29:38.000 Build a ship.

02:29:39.000 Build a ship.

02:29:40.000 This is all going to come out in the book that I'm working on.

02:29:42.000 Hey, I always shout out my people, though, man.

02:29:43.000 And I think this is important to share this stuff, because at the end of the day, this might reach someone that needs to hear it.

02:29:48.000 And hey, that's a great example.

02:29:50.000 Absolutely.

02:29:50.000 It's why I'm here, sharing the wisdom.

02:29:51.000 What was the second one?

02:29:53.000 Learn to sail.

02:29:53.000 Learn to sail and then plot a course, right?

02:29:55.000 Plot a course.

02:29:56.000 So the ship is, with respect to the sexual marketplace, it's your lifestyle.

02:30:00.000 It's not just your career and money, but how you spend it. 1.00

02:30:03.000 I often say that men want the Barbie doll, and women want all the shit the Ken doll comes with. 1.00

02:30:10.000 That's why there's like Cowboy Ken, and there's Disco Ken, and there's Stockbroker Ken, and things like that. 0.99

02:30:16.000 And then there's Black Ken. 0.98

02:30:18.000 They have him now?

02:30:19.000 Yeah, of course.

02:30:19.000 I'm kidding.

02:30:20.000 So, here's the thing.

02:30:22.000 A woman is going to fantasize what it would be like to be next to you in your lifestyle. 1.00

02:30:28.000 That's your frame.

02:30:29.000 That's your ship in this metaphor.

02:30:30.000 And it takes time and resources to extrapolate that lifestyle.

02:30:35.000 That's the main way to attract is by creating an emotionally compelling lifestyle.

02:30:39.000 That doesn't necessarily have to mean bottle service and a super yacht.

02:30:43.000 There's many different types of lifestyles.

02:30:46.000 That's why...

02:30:47.000 Women's romance novels are so varied. 0.99

02:30:50.000 There's like the cowboy who is kind of stoic and reserved and mysterious.

02:30:58.000 Then there's like the billionaire stockbroker, the high-powered guy.

02:31:02.000 It's like those are two very different fantasies, but they can both work on the same woman.

02:31:07.000 And she's like, well, I could be a cowgirl too, yee-haw! 1.00

02:31:10.000 Or I can be a boss bitch too. 1.00

02:31:13.000 They're trying to figure out what it would be like to be on your ship with you. 0.99

02:31:17.000 But it's your job to have built that ship to begin with.

02:31:20.000 Then you've got to learn to sail, which means you have to have some skills.

02:31:23.000 You have to be a competent man to be able to do business with other men.

02:31:28.000 I don't just mean actual financial transactions, but to have...

02:31:48.000 We're good to go.

02:31:52.000 Because all the things that women tend to sort for, status, wealth, lifestyle, you don't got it at 20 unless you're a trust funder. 1.00

02:32:00.000 And you're also useless to men. 0.97

02:32:03.000 Facts. 0.97

02:32:04.000 Men want competent teammates.

02:32:07.000 Yes.

02:32:07.000 You don't have any competences at 20 years old.

02:32:10.000 You don't know your ass from your elbow. 1.00

02:32:12.000 You're a liability on my team. 1.00

02:32:14.000 I gotta teach you all this shit. 1.00

02:32:15.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

02:32:16.000 So you're useless to men and you're invisible to women. 0.99

02:32:19.000 And then society says, go for it. 1.00

02:32:21.000 Get money and get laid. 0.63

02:32:22.000 And it's like, oh, Jesus, that's really hard.

02:32:25.000 Your first job is always your hardest to get.

02:32:26.000 Your second job is the second hardest to get.

02:32:28.000 And it takes about 10 years to actually...

02:32:32.000 Build anything worthwhile.

02:32:33.000 You can do a lot in 10 years, but it takes about that long and you have to be willing to grind it out sometimes, for sure.

02:32:41.000 Man, the doctor's cooking!

02:32:45.000 I told you guys to give me a great interview.

02:32:47.000 I told y'all, man.

02:32:49.000 The third one is to plot a course.

02:32:51.000 I'll just finish it up.

02:32:52.000 Yeah, please.

02:32:52.000 Which is you have to have a higher arching mission to your life.

02:32:55.000 Like, where are you going to go?

02:32:56.000 What's the whole point of all of this?

02:32:58.000 Is it just to get laid?

02:33:00.000 Like, just for that point?

02:33:01.000 Or do you have a reason to be?

02:33:04.000 On some level.

02:33:05.000 You talked about how one of the primary, if not the primary, reasons why we're here on this planet is reproduce.

02:33:12.000 There's that biological incentive.

02:33:14.000 I would argue with that.

02:33:15.000 But if it's only that, we have this Sisyphean Hell.

02:33:20.000 We're just like, we come together and suffer to make more babies who come together to suffer to just make more babies indefinitely.

02:33:27.000 Like, why?

02:33:28.000 That's the question that actually causes a great deal of human suffering on this planet.

02:33:32.000 Most people are suffering because they don't know why they're suffering.

02:33:35.000 So, the highest form of Yeah.

02:33:46.000 Yeah.

02:33:59.000 If you don't really know where you're going, the woman is going to start to, once she gets on board, she's going to start to change the course. 1.00

02:34:09.000 She's got to fuck with the rudder! 1.00

02:34:11.000 Well, once you go out to sea, the question is, like, who really runs the ship? 1.00

02:34:15.000 Does the captain run the ship, or does the passenger run the captain who runs the ship?

02:34:23.000 So, if you don't have that vision, and a lot of guys don't, Then it's easier to be fit into somebody else's vision.

02:34:34.000 If you don't have a plan, you're probably part of somebody else's plan.

02:34:37.000 And women tend to have relationship goals, whereas men's goals are basically like, I just kind of want to get laid and not be alone anymore.

02:34:44.000 Yeah.

02:34:46.000 That's why over time, relationships, I think, tend to prioritize women's needs and desires. 1.00

02:34:52.000 Like a longer relationship goes on, the more a woman gets what she wants and the less a guy gets what he wants. 0.95

02:34:57.000 That's how I see it.

02:34:58.000 No, 100% true.

02:35:00.000 Relationships inherently benefit women more. 1.00

02:35:04.000 Because women already come into the relationship at a surplus, and they continue to gain more and more as the relationship continues. 1.00

02:35:11.000 Because women are natural resource extractors, and people get really mad at me. 1.00

02:35:14.000 I have a famous saying, people have stolen it, don't give me credit.

02:35:18.000 But I always say, all women are gold diggers, some are just better at hiding the shovel. 1.00

02:35:21.000 And what I mean by that is, like, some girls, right?

02:35:24.000 Yeah.

02:35:25.000 Right?

02:35:27.000 Less polished as one of your things.

02:35:36.000 The professional's like, oh god, wow! 0.99

02:35:37.000 This guy's crazy!

02:35:39.000 What I mean by that is some girls will dress up their gold digger activities by saying, I just want a guy with ambition. 1.00

02:35:45.000 I just want a guy that a couple of courses are saying.

02:35:48.000 I just want a guy that has goals, etc.

02:35:50.000 And then some other girls are more overt about it. 1.00

02:35:52.000 I don't care.

02:35:53.000 I want a multimillionaire.

02:35:54.000 I don't want to have to work.

02:35:55.000 I need a guy that could get me a mansion or a Lambo. 0.98

02:35:58.000 So there's different degrees.

02:36:00.000 At one extreme end, you got the overt gold digger that's like, I need a rich man that's going to take care of me and I don't want to work.

02:36:04.000 Then you got other women that are like, well, I don't care about his money. 1.00

02:36:07.000 He just needs to be ambitious.

02:36:08.000 But all of them pretty much are identifying traits and characteristics that are integral for their ability to work.

02:36:18.000 Extract resources either immediately or in some type of future.

02:36:23.000 And I think once men understand that, that all men are gold diggers to a certain degree, it's going to put you in a position where you understand that, wow, My value is 1000% contingent upon my performance.

02:36:36.000 That's just how it is.

02:36:37.000 And I think once guys understand that the burden performance is actually on you, then you're going to understand that you're going to understand the natural hierarchy that men and women aren't equal.

02:36:46.000 Because you're evaluating what you provide, women or not. 0.50

02:36:49.000 They can provide electively while you are required to provide mandatorily.

02:36:57.000 You said a lot there, man.

02:36:58.000 Yeah, I'm sorry.

02:36:59.000 The gold digger line made me laugh.

02:37:06.000 That was pretty funny.

02:37:06.000 You got the white shirt on, though.

02:37:09.000 You're the chef tonight, my friend.

02:37:11.000 I mean, the fundamental...

02:37:14.000 The core concept there is true.

02:37:16.000 And that's like the red pill in one sentence, which is you need to provide value as a man in order to access the sexual opportunity.

02:37:23.000 Yeah.

02:37:24.000 Yeah.

02:37:25.000 That's a very nice and specific way of putting it.

02:37:27.000 Value can mean lots of different things.

02:37:29.000 It doesn't necessarily mean money.

02:37:31.000 Mm-hmm.

02:37:32.000 That's where I think you lose some women because the association with gold diggers is they're just trying to extract cash from a guy. 1.00

02:37:42.000 Value can be defined in many different ways.

02:37:45.000 And it's not simply money.

02:37:48.000 It's obviously part of it.

02:37:50.000 That's why you probably lose some women. 1.00

02:37:52.000 Yeah, they get mad.

02:37:54.000 I say that more for the men so that they understand that a little shovel might mean, oh, I just want a guy with ambition.

02:38:02.000 Whereas a big shovel will mean, I need a Lamborghini or I want a Bentley.

02:38:07.000 It's like there's varying degrees, but every chick is walking around with a shovel. 1.00

02:38:12.000 The ambition line is really interesting because I have this dating strategy for women. 1.00

02:38:17.000 I say, find your dark horse.

02:38:20.000 Do you understand that idiom, dark horse?

02:38:23.000 A dark horse, it's like at the Kentucky Derby.

02:38:25.000 The dark horse is the horse with the bad odds who actually ends up winning.

02:38:29.000 I think at the last Kentucky Derby, the horse that won had 101 odds.

02:38:33.000 So whoever bet on that horse hit an enormous jackpot.

02:38:36.000 So the problem with a lot of women's strategies is, Rich Cooper talks about this, they hang out at the winner's circle and try to pick The winners. 1.00

02:38:45.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:38:46.000 And it's like, it's always easier and safer to bet on a horse after the race is run.

02:38:50.000 Yeah.

02:38:50.000 You know who the winners are.

02:38:52.000 But the issue is, that's just one horse and maybe a hundred adoring fans.

02:38:56.000 There you go.

02:38:57.000 So it's like, women have to be really honest with themselves.

02:39:00.000 Can you beat out 99 other women? 1.00

02:39:03.000 They think they can.

02:39:04.000 For that horse.

02:39:05.000 A lot of them do.

02:39:06.000 All the time.

02:39:06.000 A lot of them do.

02:39:07.000 They really do a thing they can, man.

02:39:08.000 Which is funny.

02:39:09.000 A lot of women think that they're 1% women, for sure. 1.00

02:39:12.000 Now, some women don't have that. 1.00

02:39:16.000 And another strategy is to try to find the winner before the race is run.

02:39:22.000 This requires becoming a better judge of character, to be able to look at the horse's teeth and their forelocks, or whatever the hell it is, and say, oh yeah, this one's going to go the distance.

02:39:33.000 And you can enter into a relationship with a guy...

02:39:43.000 Absolutely.

02:39:49.000 Absolutely.

02:39:53.000 So the ambition is basically like this guy has not just potential.

02:39:58.000 Women don't really care much about potential, but he has a vision, he has a path, and he's hardworking.

02:40:03.000 That's one I hear a lot.

02:40:04.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:40:05.000 Which basically means I'm betting on this pony before the horse is run because I think he has a good chance of going the distance.

02:40:11.000 And I can't compete with the other 99 women in the winner's circle. 0.99

02:40:14.000 That's actually a smarter strategy for a lot of girls. 1.00

02:40:18.000 Let me ask you this, playing on analogies and stuff like this.

02:40:22.000 You said women need to find their dark horse. 1.00

02:40:25.000 It's one strategy.

02:40:26.000 Being able to find the winning horse, etc. 0.99

02:40:30.000 Would you agree that most women suck at finding this dark horse? 0.99

02:40:33.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:40:35.000 What if I told you, I think for a woman to be good at finding a dark horse, they need an expert. 1.00

02:40:40.000 And that expert is going to be someone might have practiced him a question in the past, etc.

02:40:45.000 And I think that guy is going to be their father or their brother.

02:40:49.000 And why I say that is because you have a man who's not sexually motivated to be around you that has a...

02:40:58.000 If it's a healthy family, a significant interest in you finding the best mate, because if you don't, they're on the hook for taking care of you, especially the dad.

02:41:06.000 So they will be able to help you assess this dark horse from a better perspective because they can see things that the woman might not be able to. 0.98

02:41:15.000 And what I've realized is that a lot of times women are blinded by how the man makes him feel.

02:41:19.000 We talked about Machiavellian traits before, how a man is able to, and these dark triad traits, We're good to go.

02:41:43.000 Well, marriage rates have plummeted.

02:41:44.000 Women report less happiness, et cetera. 1.00

02:41:46.000 Relationships are in the toilet. 0.98

02:41:47.000 Well, that's because women are making the sexual selections themselves. 1.00

02:41:50.000 But I think if they bring in a trusted male individual who also is, I guess, a horse, they could tell you, hey, This horse is good.

02:42:00.000 Take it.

02:42:01.000 It might not look good right now, but when he gets across the finish line and beats everybody else, we'll be able to update the horseshoes.

02:42:08.000 We'll be able to update the grain that the horse eats.

02:42:11.000 We'll be able to update the mane and all these other things because he's going to win.

02:42:15.000 The potential is there, but women aren't able to see this. 1.00

02:42:17.000 It takes one to know one.

02:42:18.000 Yeah.

02:42:19.000 I think that was really well said.

02:42:19.000 I love that.

02:42:21.000 When a woman says that no man has ever said no to me before in my life, that's a failing of her father and her brother. 1.00

02:42:30.000 Damn. 1.00

02:42:30.000 Absolutely. 1.00

02:42:31.000 What a wasted opportunity.

02:42:33.000 Now that said, some women can be very difficult to talk to. 1.00

02:42:37.000 I've tried to have some of those conversations with my own sister and it didn't often go very well.

02:42:41.000 Yeah.

02:42:42.000 No, it's tough.

02:42:43.000 I mean, I've had that uncomfortable conversation with my sister.

02:42:45.000 I remember she was in her late 20s.

02:42:47.000 She was about to go into med school.

02:42:49.000 And I told her, you only have now to find your guy.

02:42:52.000 You need to do it now because you're going to get older.

02:42:55.000 You're going to make more money and you are going to be doomed.

02:42:58.000 You will not be able to find a man. 0.99

02:42:59.000 You need to fucking do it right now. 0.98

02:43:01.000 And she ended up finding a guy, and good on her, who's also in the same profession, right? 0.99

02:43:06.000 So there's some semblance of the guy has his shit together, and he's in competency, and etc. 0.96

02:43:12.000 But I told her straight up, because this is just what it is. 0.97

02:43:16.000 Successful women end up, I always say, men become free from their success, women become prisoners of their success. 1.00

02:43:22.000 And, you know, girls need to, if you're going to go into a certain profession, etc., Find a guy. 1.00

02:43:28.000 I mean, girls that go to school and become educated, I tell them, find a guy while you're in school.

02:43:34.000 You know what I mean?

02:43:35.000 That's a fantastic way to meet a guy because he's on the up and up.

02:43:38.000 You're on the up and up.

02:43:38.000 If you guys go into the same career field, that's fine.

02:43:40.000 Just make sure he's better than you and go from there.

02:43:43.000 But yeah, I mean, but I think have a male influence that isn't Self-motivated through sexual motivation, a brother, a cousin, an uncle, some kind of trusted male counterpart.

02:43:56.000 This is why I think arranged marriages work well, have worked so long, and why they were a thing, is because even though there might have not been maybe an emotional bond, etc., to the same degree, the woman was at least cared for and taken care of from a provisioning standpoint.

02:44:10.000 I could go very personally here as well.

02:44:11.000 My granddad, rest in peace to him, he told my mom that that was a bad bet.

02:44:16.000 And because, you know, Machiavellian traits, you know, not really caring that much, more of like a lone wolf, but more like, I want to say, good game, and telling her what she wants to hear, you know, she fell for it, and he left, he said he was coming back to the house,

02:44:33.000 he never came back.

02:44:33.000 And that's why I'm here alone now.

02:44:35.000 But the point is that, like, I should listen to my granddad.

02:44:38.000 Because my granddad knew what was cool.

02:44:39.000 He said that this guy's not a good bet.

02:44:39.000 He called it.

02:44:41.000 And she ended up getting with him anyway.

02:44:42.000 Yeah.

02:44:43.000 So, there you go.

02:44:44.000 Yeah.

02:44:44.000 Well, now fresh stutters.

02:44:46.000 There y'all go.

02:44:47.000 Sometimes.

02:44:48.000 All the time.

02:44:49.000 Sometimes.

02:44:50.000 He's got it under control now.

02:44:53.000 Real quick.

02:44:55.000 Mo, are there more?

02:44:56.000 A couple more.

02:44:57.000 Okay.

02:44:58.000 We can get through these.

02:44:59.000 Get through them, you said?

02:45:01.000 I'll run through them.

02:45:01.000 Yeah.

02:45:01.000 Okay.

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02:45:26.000 No, I should be there by the end of the month.

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02:46:00.000 Love you guys.

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02:46:25.000 What else do we got here?

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02:46:26.000 Beta.

02:46:27.000 The thoughts on dating a girl with BPD and or bipolar. 0.87

02:46:30.000 She's a ride or die, but also crazy and distracts from my purpose slots.

02:46:33.000 She was with me since I was broke and paid for dates. 0.77

02:46:36.000 Now I'm making 90K. Oh, man.

02:46:38.000 So she was with him from before.

02:46:40.000 Oh, man.

02:46:42.000 Well, you want me to take this one, Doc?

02:46:44.000 You can go ahead.

02:46:46.000 I'll give you a short and succinct response here.

02:46:49.000 Since she was with you before you became a somebody, I will say that you should give her a benefit of doubt that other women don't necessarily deserve.

02:46:59.000 However, this kind of sucks because you acquired your value later on.

02:47:03.000 So you weren't able to dictate terms from the onset of the relationship.

02:47:05.000 So it's going to be a little bit trickier to do it in the middle, but it can be done.

02:47:08.000 What I would say is, this is what I think.

02:47:12.000 You need to write down on a piece of paper everything that she does that irritates you and pisses you off. 0.67

02:47:16.000 Okay?

02:47:17.000 Literally write it down.

02:47:18.000 Call her in, almost like a job, and say, look, I'm assuming you guys might love each other, have some type of emotional connection.

02:47:26.000 I love you, I care about you, whatever your relationship is, and I want things to work.

02:47:31.000 And you acknowledge all the good that she did.

02:47:33.000 You were with me when I was a nobody.

02:47:35.000 You've been loyal, etc.

02:47:37.000 However, if we're going to continue, these are behaviors that I no longer accept. 0.99

02:47:42.000 And you literally just go down the fucking list of what it is. 0.98

02:47:45.000 And you don't sit there and argue with her. 0.99

02:47:47.000 You tell her, this is what it is.

02:47:48.000 I don't like this stuff.

02:47:49.000 Let's talk in a day or two and go from there.

02:47:52.000 But I am no longer going to accept.

02:47:54.000 And if you cannot change, the relationship will end.

02:47:56.000 That's it.

02:47:57.000 You don't negotiate with terrorists, as I always say.

02:48:00.000 And that right there is going to put you in a position where she's either going to concede and change, and then you can go ahead and implement consequences if she doesn't, or You know, you just end the relationship right there.

02:48:11.000 It's up to you.

02:48:12.000 That's how I would do it.

02:48:13.000 I'm actually of the opposite opinion.

02:48:15.000 Sure, go ahead.

02:48:15.000 Can you change someone as BPD to like really...

02:48:18.000 It's hard to do, man.

02:48:20.000 Yeah, that is hard.

02:48:21.000 It's possible.

02:48:21.000 Like one of the best therapies on the market is called dialectical behavior therapy.

02:48:26.000 I love this therapy.

02:48:27.000 I studied it extensively and it's the only therapy that's been shown to be effective with BPD and it was written by a woman who is a recovered BPD. But he doesn't even know if she has real Like, bro, does she really have BPD? Because guys on this side of the internet tend to throw that shit around for any female.

02:48:39.000 Sure, like narcissists, for sure. 0.99

02:48:40.000 But people with significant personality disorders, they can change, but they generally don't.

02:48:48.000 The rule is that they're not going to change.

02:48:50.000 Yeah, I would say have love for her, bro, because she did it from the very beginning.

02:48:53.000 Don't just discard her, but to have her close to your personal lifestyle now where you could hurt your income or hurt yourself, I would just run for the hell, bro.

02:49:01.000 Which you should have done that from the beginning.

02:49:03.000 She shouldn't be living with you. 0.99

02:49:05.000 Remember, I'm telling you this advice is like listing everything out where she's not in a position to fuck you up. 1.00

02:49:09.000 She shouldn't be living with you. 0.99

02:49:10.000 You shouldn't have joint bank accounts.

02:49:12.000 She shouldn't have any type of real leverage to mess your life up. 1.00

02:49:16.000 Now, if she does...

02:49:18.000 Then you might have to go out about it a different way.

02:49:19.000 But I'm giving you that advice.

02:49:20.000 We're writing the list out, etc.

02:49:22.000 Assuming she's not in a position to destroy you where she's living with your cohabiting, which we tell you all the time, you should never be living with a woman anyway. 1.00

02:49:28.000 Because all of this is one phone call to the cops, and now you're in jail, out of your house.

02:49:33.000 And does she really have BPD? I don't know, because a lot of guys tend to throw that term out with women all the time.

02:49:39.000 Yeah, we don't know.

02:49:40.000 Well, there's a couple things I'll say about that, if I may.

02:49:42.000 Yeah.

02:49:45.000 Yeah.

02:49:47.000 Yeah.

02:49:54.000 Yeah.

02:50:02.000 Relationship with somebody who's addicted to drugs.

02:50:04.000 They're choosing the drug over the relationship.

02:50:07.000 It's not possible, but people fool themselves about this all the time.

02:50:10.000 Yeah, I agree.

02:50:11.000 Now with respect to BPD, again, we don't know.

02:50:13.000 Maybe it's something that they're just throwing around.

02:50:15.000 But you have to understand that in this treatment that's actually used effectively on borderlines, part of the protocol is those therapists need to be involved in a team of support therapists.

02:50:30.000 Wow.

02:50:39.000 Wow. 0.91

02:50:48.000 So, nigga, they can't do it. 1.00

02:50:49.000 You can't do it either, bro. 1.00

02:50:50.000 What the fuck? 1.00

02:50:53.000 So, yeah. 1.00

02:50:54.000 I mean, is she really BPD, bro?

02:50:55.000 That's the real thing.

02:50:56.000 Like, if she's really BPD, hey, man, you might have to cut your losses down.

02:51:01.000 That's a tough one, bro.

02:51:02.000 That's a tough one, bro.

02:51:03.000 Zentius, Dr.

02:51:04.000 Taraban, I enjoy your perspectives and videos on your channel and your discourse on podcasts.

02:51:07.000 You and John from It's Complicated provide excellent, thought-provoking, engaging involvement.

02:51:11.000 Much respect, sir.

02:51:12.000 Thank you, Zentius.

02:51:13.000 That's what I'm talking about.

02:51:15.000 He's a doctor as well.

02:51:16.000 Yeah, yeah, he is.

02:51:17.000 I don't know where you've been at, Zentien.

02:51:18.000 He forgot about us, bro.

02:51:19.000 He forgot about us, I guess.

02:51:21.000 He's not making fun of the girls anymore.

02:51:26.000 Shout out to him.

02:51:27.000 Zentien's again.

02:51:28.000 Gents, hope y'all are well.

02:51:30.000 I've been busy starting two businesses.

02:51:31.000 Do you have published works that I can learn more from you?

02:51:35.000 Gents, lead, follow, and get out of the way. 1.00

02:51:36.000 Okay, he's been busy.

02:51:38.000 No worries, my friend.

02:51:39.000 He's asking, do you have any published works?

02:51:41.000 Yeah, but nothing anybody would want to read yet.

02:51:44.000 So I'm currently working on a book that people might actually want to read.

02:51:47.000 I'm about four chapters in.

02:51:49.000 I hope to finish the drafting by the end of the year.

02:51:52.000 Okay.

02:51:52.000 And so a lot of people...

02:51:53.000 What do you think you're going to release it by?

02:51:55.000 Depends on how much, how long it takes to get it edited and, you know, the design and everything.

02:51:59.000 Hopefully sometime next year.

02:52:00.000 Yeah, I would say...

02:52:01.000 What's it called?

02:52:02.000 I haven't decided on a title yet, but...

02:52:04.000 What's it about?

02:52:05.000 It's about a unified theory of all relationships, kind of.

02:52:09.000 It's like behavioral economics applied to relationships.

02:52:13.000 Let's put it that way.

02:52:15.000 I like it.

02:52:15.000 I think you can call it out of PPD chicks.

02:52:18.000 BPD chicks.

02:52:19.000 That would be a bit of composite.

02:52:20.000 Who's up next, Mo?

02:52:21.000 That was actually my question, too.

02:52:22.000 That was your question?

02:52:23.000 That was my, yeah.

02:52:24.000 I was like wondering if he had any books out.

02:52:25.000 Okay.

02:52:26.000 Soon.

02:52:28.000 Dom goes, last night's show hurt, but here we are.

02:52:31.000 We got y'all forever.

02:52:32.000 I appreciate that, Dom.

02:52:32.000 Don't worry, man.

02:52:33.000 We ain't going nowhere.

02:52:34.000 And y'all will still see us on YouTube, too.

02:52:35.000 It's not the end.

02:52:37.000 Daisy Lemon goes, could you guys play the Please Know game?

02:52:40.000 Well, that's a little tough to do in the middle of a podcast.

02:52:43.000 Oh, man.

02:52:44.000 Probably hilarious.

02:52:45.000 Dr.

02:52:45.000 Orion is serving up straight facts.

02:52:46.000 Absolutely.

02:52:47.000 He was cooking earlier.

02:52:48.000 And then, there's no darker horse than fresh.

02:52:50.000 That's a fact.

02:52:50.000 Fresh is black as hell.

02:52:52.000 So guys, from this point, we're going to read 50 and up Rumble Rants, because I still have some questions here that I want to make sure I get through. 0.97

02:52:57.000 And obviously, we don't want to put the doc to sleep, and he's got stuff to do, probably.

02:53:01.000 So maybe some...

02:53:01.000 Flight tomorrow?

02:53:03.000 Oh, yeah.

02:53:04.000 Flight tomorrow?

02:53:05.000 Yeah.

02:53:07.000 You made a video.

02:53:08.000 I think it's one of your most popular videos.

02:53:10.000 Why women don't apologize. 1.00

02:53:12.000 Hmm.

02:53:14.000 Can you talk about that a little bit?

02:53:15.000 I mean, I think one of the things here on this side of the internet, we always say, you know, women want the power of a man and the responsibility, but they want the accountability of a child, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

02:53:24.000 Women have a tough time taking accountability, all this other stuff. 1.00

02:53:27.000 Can you speak deeper to, and you really explained it well in that video, but can you speak deeper to that concept of apologies in females? 0.89

02:53:34.000 Sure.

02:53:34.000 First, I'll respond to the most common pushback or objection to that, which is saying that, explaining why women don't apologize doesn't mean that men don't.

02:53:44.000 But it's that men and women often don't apologize for different reasons, I've found.

02:53:49.000 Men often don't apologize because of an ego thing.

02:53:52.000 That can happen to women. 1.00

02:53:54.000 But what I've found is that women don't apologize because they have a different conceptualization of the foul than men do. 0.98

02:54:02.000 With respect to men, we think that the behavior is what requires the apology.

02:54:09.000 You stepped out of bounds.

02:54:10.000 You did something.

02:54:12.000 And I would like you to acknowledge that you did that bad thing.

02:54:15.000 Apologize for that and change your behavior moving forward.

02:54:17.000 Because that, of course, is the only real apology is changed behavior.

02:54:22.000 But what I found is that a lot of women treat the foul as the pain or the anger or the Emotional reaction in the man as a response to her behavior. 0.95

02:54:36.000 Gotcha.

02:54:36.000 The problem is not so much what she did.

02:54:38.000 The problem is that I'm angry about it.

02:54:41.000 And within that conceptualization, she might not have to, to solve the problem, she might not have to change her behavior.

02:54:47.000 She just might have to get me to feel differently.

02:54:49.000 Yeah.

02:54:50.000 And that's why you see some of the otherwise quizzical things that women are subject to doing in this. 1.00

02:54:56.000 Like, maybe they'll just let some time blow over and then send you some funny memes as if nothing happened.

02:55:00.000 Yeah.

02:55:01.000 Yes. 0.97

02:55:01.000 Or I had a situation where I had a disagreement with a woman and then a few hours later she just took her clothes off and laid down naked in front of me as if like just having sex would make everything better. 0.97

02:55:10.000 Yeah. 0.81

02:55:11.000 Which I found to be somewhat disrespectful to be honest.

02:55:13.000 Yeah.

02:55:13.000 And it didn't happen that night.

02:55:15.000 Rightfully so but most men would not take that appropriately. 0.96

02:55:17.000 They would be like oh yeah I'm gonna get sex like yeah. 0.98

02:55:20.000 I guess. 0.96

02:55:21.000 You did it the right way but most other guys would just accept that.

02:55:23.000 It just felt so, like, what kind of man would I be to surrender the principle of what happened for some momentary pleasure?

02:55:33.000 That doesn't make any sense to me. 0.99

02:55:34.000 As a top-bar soulmate would say, dick is a gift. 1.00

02:55:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:55:39.000 You guys are full of quotes.

02:55:42.000 So that's why some women don't apologize is because they see the foul in the emotional reaction in the man as opposed to her own behavior. 1.00

02:55:52.000 She obviously doesn't think she did anything wrong.

02:55:54.000 That's why she did it. 0.99

02:55:55.000 Yeah.

02:55:56.000 I mean, she probably felt like it was in her rights and it's just that I had a problem with it.

02:56:02.000 Go ahead.

02:56:02.000 Would you say...

02:56:03.000 This is why it's so important where when you're correcting a woman or enforcing a boundary, etc., you do it in a calm, cool, collected fashion.

02:56:15.000 So you minimize...

02:56:18.000 Because what you're saying here is actually very profound.

02:56:20.000 I want the audience to really understand this.

02:56:23.000 Men have an issue with the behavior, right? 1.00

02:56:27.000 That's why they want the apology and they want it to be corrected.

02:56:30.000 Women have an issue with how they made you feel from the behavior, but they discount the behavior. 1.00

02:56:36.000 And I think if you're able to respond to her behavior that pissed you off or you didn't like in a calm, cool, and collected manner, she can't I guess she can't see an emotional response from you.

02:56:50.000 And therefore that only leaves one thing, which is the glaring problem. 0.98

02:56:53.000 It was your fucking behavior, not my reaction. 0.99

02:56:55.000 Correct. 1.00

02:56:56.000 Now there's some rational basis for this.

02:56:59.000 Like we have this phrase, no harm, no foul.

02:57:01.000 So it could be that maybe I did step out of bounds in our relationship.

02:57:04.000 But if you say, Hey, no problem, man.

02:57:07.000 It's like, okay, I guess we're just going to carry on on some level.

02:57:10.000 You see what I'm saying?

02:57:11.000 So it's not completely irrational where women might be coming from, but absolutely.

02:57:16.000 There's two reasons why it's important to keep your calm about that.

02:57:18.000 First of all, is if your emotional tone is too angry, then she might get triggered and then she only hears that and she's not going to take in what you say.

02:57:27.000 And that's true for anybody, man or woman, who gets emotionally triggered.

02:57:30.000 They're no longer susceptible to logic and reason, so you can't actually have a mature conversation with them.

02:57:35.000 So you have to take care of your tone so that they don't become emotionally confused in that moment, panicked.

02:57:42.000 But yeah, if a person is flailing, they're going to find some other way to squirm out of it.

02:57:47.000 And it could be that you're raising your voice against me right now.

02:57:51.000 And so that's just a distraction tactic.

02:57:54.000 And it's very easy to move to the side if you understand it and you can keep your cool in that moment.

02:58:00.000 That's avoiding accountability.

02:58:02.000 Yeah.

02:58:02.000 Yep.

02:58:03.000 So that's why it's got to be a measure.

02:58:05.000 I mean, I hate to say it, man, but you've got to talk to them like children almost.

02:58:10.000 It's like, hey, you know, we're in a relationship.

02:58:15.000 Maybe you love her or whatever.

02:58:16.000 You know, you give something positive up front and then you tell her, look, I didn't like XYZ. I'm not angry about it. 1.00

02:58:23.000 I'm just disappointed in you.

02:58:25.000 This behavior will not be tolerated again.

02:58:28.000 Etc.

02:58:29.000 And you kind of go about it, but you have to be but if you like and you'll be emotional You're basically letting her know that both of you are equal and you're gonna go ahead and play her game and that's not what you want to do So masculine feminine communication is very different.

02:58:43.000 Yeah, so let's say that for whatever reason we had some sort of like beef Yeah, and we're gonna come together and talk about it.

02:58:49.000 Yeah, this happens between men what we're probably gonna do is Is be as cool and calm because we both know what could happen if things get disrespectful and things get out of hand.

02:59:00.000 So we're probably going to take as much emotion out of our voices as possible.

02:59:04.000 We're going to talk slower.

02:59:05.000 We're going to talk calm.

02:59:07.000 Okay?

02:59:08.000 Here's the thing about that.

02:59:09.000 When you're talking, and this is where guys screw this up all the time, when they have to have sometimes necessary or difficult conversations with their women, they'll speak to them like a man like that.

02:59:17.000 They'll take all the emotional tone out of their voice.

02:59:20.000 And suddenly all the woman is responding to is the absence of warmth.

02:59:24.000 And now she starts to get afraid.

02:59:25.000 Now she starts to get panicked.

02:59:28.000 Because what she's hearing, if you take the words out of it and you just have the tone, she's hearing something like...

02:59:33.000 And that doesn't sound like I love you.

02:59:43.000 That doesn't sound like I'm on your side.

02:59:45.000 That doesn't sound like we're on the same team.

02:59:52.000 They're going to respond more to the tone than guys do.

02:59:55.000 We talked about that earlier today.

02:59:57.000 So if you're going to have to have a difficult conversation with a woman, put some warmth in your voice.

03:00:02.000 Yo, next after hours?

03:00:23.000 What certainly sounds like there's a trouble.

03:00:26.000 You know what I'm saying?

03:00:27.000 And she's going to start to get defensive.

03:00:29.000 What I've noticed is you can say almost anything to a woman if you have a smile on your face and warmth in your voice.

03:00:34.000 Yeah, it's true.

03:00:35.000 It's true.

03:00:35.000 It's how you say it.

03:00:36.000 So yeah, you have to be calm and collective at the same time.

03:00:38.000 Yes, I really like that you brought that up.

03:00:40.000 You lead in.

03:00:41.000 You got to kind of softly let them down.

03:00:43.000 Hey, I love you, etc.

03:00:44.000 That's why I'm having this difficult conversation with you.

03:00:47.000 I wouldn't even use the word difficult.

03:00:48.000 That's already primal.

03:00:49.000 I meant for the audience.

03:00:50.000 I wouldn't say difficult, but that's why I'm telling you this.

03:00:53.000 I love you.

03:00:53.000 That's why I want to tell you this.

03:00:55.000 Boom.

03:00:55.000 And then you tell her what it is.

03:00:57.000 And then she's going to be more likely to be like, damn, I don't want to lose his approval. 0.96

03:01:00.000 He had me in this light and I lost a little bit of whatever. 0.97

03:01:03.000 Or what I like to say to girls all the time is like, I really didn't think you were that type of girl.

03:01:08.000 Well, what hurt more when you were a kid?

03:01:10.000 Was it potentially getting slapped or when your mom said, I'm just disappointed in you, Myron?

03:01:15.000 Yeah.

03:01:16.000 Yeah. 0.98

03:01:16.000 Sucks the latter. 0.98

03:01:17.000 Yeah. 0.99

03:01:18.000 And she's like, it's so bad that she's not even getting angry.

03:01:21.000 It's like, oh, that means that something really bad.

03:01:25.000 And I think the other thing, too, is that people have this natural need to be held in high esteem by their peers.

03:01:32.000 And when someone says, I'm disappointed in you, or, wow, I really didn't think you were that type of person, blah, blah, blah.

03:01:39.000 Your disappointment, and what you're basically also inadvertently telling them is that, Yeah.

03:01:50.000 Yeah.

03:01:55.000 Yeah.

03:02:05.000 So people actually are more likely to try to live up to your expectations than the opposite.

03:02:12.000 So have positive expectations for the women. 0.97

03:02:15.000 Expect them to be loyal.

03:02:18.000 Don't necessarily trust until it's valid to do so, but expect to see in her behavior the things that you want to see there until she proves otherwise.

03:02:32.000 Yeah.

03:02:32.000 That's fair.

03:02:33.000 No, I like it.

03:02:34.000 That's what we say.

03:02:36.000 Less professional.

03:02:38.000 Assume every girl is a hoe unless she proves otherwise. 1.00

03:02:41.000 It's on her.

03:02:42.000 The Burnham performance is on her to prove that she's not like every other girl. 0.98

03:02:45.000 Because women use that same thing. 1.00

03:02:47.000 The difference between them is that they're kind of doing it up front.

03:02:51.000 Right?

03:02:51.000 Through like...

03:02:52.000 They want to disqualify you from the very beginning.

03:02:54.000 Yeah, women want to disqualify you from the very beginning. 1.00

03:02:56.000 And the more you talk about yourself, the more you talk, oh, I don't like that.

03:02:58.000 He's a Trump supporter.

03:03:00.000 I don't like that.

03:03:01.000 I think that's why, going back to being, because someone asked earlier, do women really want honesty? 1.00

03:03:06.000 And I think women want honesty, and I want to get your take on this, Doc, for their own selfish reasons to quickly disqualify you. 0.72

03:03:13.000 Not necessarily to build upon your honesty, but rather they want your honesty to disqualify you from something that might not necessarily align with their sexual strategy at that moment in time.

03:03:24.000 Like, for example, let's say she's 29 and looking for a relationship. 0.96

03:03:29.000 And you say, I just want to go with the flow and I'm looking for something casual.

03:03:35.000 Well, now you've objectively disclosed to her that your goal doesn't align with hers.

03:03:41.000 And her goal, unfortunately, is time-sensitive.

03:03:43.000 So she will quickly disqualify you. 1.00

03:03:45.000 But maybe 10 years prior, at 20 years old, you had given her that information.

03:03:50.000 Well, at the time, I'm just looking for a good time, etc.

03:03:54.000 She might be looking for that as well.

03:03:56.000 Your goals align.

03:03:57.000 She'll get with you.

03:03:58.000 Yeah, I have this line that if you punish the truth, you're asking to be lied to.

03:04:02.000 Bam! 0.98

03:04:04.000 So how many times if you punish the truth, you're asking to be lied to.

03:04:09.000 And how many times is that guy going to say up front, yeah, I'm just looking to smash.

03:04:15.000 Yeah, I just want some casual.

03:04:17.000 It's like you're expecting people to be superhuman and to just say they should be honest, independent of the fact that they're failing and they're experiencing nothing but rejection.

03:04:30.000 Yeah.

03:04:30.000 So, women unfortunately create different strategies in men.

03:04:37.000 They incentivize different strategies in men because they punish certain other strategies.

03:04:41.000 And so, men learn, it's like, man, I have a tough choice here.

03:04:44.000 I can be totally honest and transparent.

03:04:48.000 Or, and be alone, or I can find other ways of navigating this test and get laid and potentially get a relationship.

03:04:57.000 Yeah, and the only exception to the rule where I've seen brutal honesty actually work with women You've got to be a higher status guy. 0.99

03:05:05.000 Sorry.

03:05:06.000 There's no way around it. 0.51

03:05:07.000 There's no way that you'll be able to be honest about what you really want to do, whether it's being polygamous or wanting multiple women, etc., and be able to do it peacefully without a woman being all over you and shit like that, unless you're a higher status guy. 0.89

03:05:20.000 You have to have more power. 0.85

03:05:20.000 Yeah, absolutely. 0.85

03:05:21.000 And it's got to be an overwhelming amount of power from her.

03:05:25.000 You've got to be significantly higher on the total pole than her by three to four points for her to accept it. 0.98

03:05:31.000 We had a very deep discussion about this with Dan Bilzerian.

03:05:35.000 He's brutally honest with the girls because he's out there on Instagram, right?

03:05:38.000 He's on Jets, and he's always surrounded by women, etc.

03:05:41.000 They kind of know the deal when they get involved with a guy like him, right?

03:05:45.000 Yeah.

03:05:46.000 But he's able to do so because his lifestyle and his status, et cetera, speaks for itself so women know what time it is dealing with a guy like that.

03:05:54.000 So you're able to get away with it in certain situations.

03:05:56.000 But are most men able to be honest, forfeit a majority of women, and still be able to have sexual access?

03:06:06.000 No.

03:06:07.000 I would agree.

03:06:08.000 So that's why most guys can't afford to be honest.

03:06:10.000 We tell you on this podcast, get yourself to a point where you can be honest with girls and tell them I want multiple women, etc. 0.98

03:06:15.000 But you need to get to a certain level to be able to do it.

03:06:17.000 And it's just very difficult for a bunch of guys.

03:06:20.000 There's also degrees to honesty.

03:06:22.000 Yeah.

03:06:23.000 I mean, even if you're committed to being the most forthright and transparent in your conversations, in your dealings with women, there's still things you don't talk about.

03:06:34.000 And we're not talking about, I'm purposely hiding this.

03:06:36.000 It's just like the camera.

03:06:37.000 It's only looking at this one thing that it's looking at right now.

03:06:40.000 It's making a choice to focus on this and to not focus on anything else.

03:06:44.000 And so it naturally has to leave everything else out.

03:06:49.000 And...

03:06:49.000 Take everyone, Mo.

03:06:50.000 Is some of those things that get left out...

03:06:53.000 They're seeing you, but they didn't see us nodding along with you the whole time.

03:06:55.000 See, there you go.

03:06:56.000 That's an example right there.

03:06:57.000 Framing actually is a way of controlling...

03:07:11.000 Yeah.

03:07:13.000 Yeah.

03:07:24.000 So even if you are totally committed to transparency and honesty, you might run the risk of leading people on or making misunderstandings.

03:07:37.000 I think transparency is a double-edged sword.

03:07:41.000 Absolutely.

03:07:42.000 You still have to have an allure of mystery.

03:07:47.000 Only disclose what is asked and don't offer more information.

03:07:50.000 But I think some things have to be out there and open if you want to have a peaceful relationship, especially if you want to be open, which most of you guys, let's be honest, you all want to have your main girl and maybe have multiple girls.

03:08:00.000 You tell them, hey, this is what I want, and you kind of just leave it there.

03:08:03.000 Let her imagination do most of the work.

03:08:05.000 We talk about this, a woman's imagination is your best ally with maintaining attraction.

03:08:11.000 I will counter it and say, I ask questions for this dynamic, so I want to know from the very beginning what you want.

03:08:16.000 I'll tell you what you want to hear.

03:08:19.000 Fresh does it the other way around.

03:08:22.000 Because if I know what you want, I'll get what I want by default.

03:08:26.000 So we both win it in that scenario.

03:08:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:08:30.000 But the dream could lead to headaches later, but that's fine.

03:08:33.000 Fresh is cool with that.

03:08:36.000 Oh, okay.

03:08:37.000 And then Real quick, I had this written down like a while ago.

03:08:41.000 The American Psychologists Association, has it been infiltrated by feminism? 0.99

03:08:45.000 Is it mostly run by females now?

03:08:47.000 I've heard from many people that it's been extremely feminized.

03:08:50.000 It's not as empirical as it used to be.

03:08:53.000 I mean, what's your take on it?

03:08:54.000 I don't know if it's What do I say about this?

03:08:58.000 It's definitely a feminized profession. 1.00

03:09:00.000 I think 80 to 85% of all therapists are women.

03:09:05.000 I think about roughly that many of my classmates were women. 0.99

03:09:09.000 So the vast majority of people in the field are women. 1.00

03:09:19.000 Oh, of course.

03:09:38.000 Universally understood concept, it definitely exists, and it's important to save men from themselves, of their emotional suppression, the bondage of their traditional gender roles, etc.

03:09:54.000 Their tendencies to violence and aggression.

03:09:56.000 What are your thoughts on the concept of toxic masculinity?

03:10:05.000 Well, I don't... 0.96

03:10:10.000 The idea that masculinity is inherently toxic is obviously ludicrous.

03:10:14.000 That doesn't make any sense.

03:10:17.000 Is there a possibility that something like toxic masculinity exists?

03:10:22.000 Yeah.

03:10:22.000 But I would also say there's a possibility that something like toxic femininity exists as well.

03:10:26.000 We don't really talk about that.

03:10:27.000 There are certain gendered behaviors or traits that can be used for exploitation and have been used Badly in the past.

03:10:57.000 You don't want to be a harmless man.

03:10:59.000 A harmless man is one that is not useful.

03:11:04.000 The way I think about it is this.

03:11:06.000 Superman, superhero, can do pretty much anything.

03:11:09.000 Indestructible, flies around, shoots heat vision from his eyes.

03:11:13.000 Superman could have been Earth's biggest supervillain.

03:11:18.000 Like, no one could have stopped Superman.

03:11:21.000 The powers that make him good also could have been used for evil.

03:11:26.000 Yeah.

03:11:27.000 Power allows you to be an effective, competent man.

03:11:34.000 How you use that power can be for good and it can be not for good. 0.98

03:11:39.000 A guy who doesn't have power, a guy who couldn't be evil, is useless. 0.51

03:11:44.000 Superman could have been evil. 0.98

03:11:46.000 That's what makes him so good.

03:11:48.000 Right?

03:11:49.000 If he couldn't fly around and had super strength, it'd be like, you'd just be Clark Kent, the journalist.

03:11:54.000 Who cares about that guy?

03:11:56.000 So, it's the potential to be evil and the decision not to be that is one of the highest extrapolated forms of masculinity.

03:12:09.000 Justin Waller, a good friend of ours, he has this quote and I think it's a very good one.

03:12:13.000 It sums this up.

03:12:14.000 He says, you need to be able to slit a man's throat and hold your baby within the same hour or in the same day. 0.71

03:12:18.000 That's heavy, man.

03:12:21.000 Yeah, you gotta be able to have that capability to turn it on and then turn it off immediately.

03:12:26.000 Hopefully you don't forget which one is which.

03:12:27.000 Yeah, that would suck.

03:12:29.000 I need an hour in between.

03:12:32.000 Some guys can do it in 30 seconds.

03:12:33.000 But yeah, he said that's what you need to be able to do.

03:12:36.000 You need to slit a man's throat in one hour and then be able to hold your baby that same day. 1.00

03:12:40.000 And I think that's very important because going back to what you said, men need to be useful. 0.97

03:12:45.000 And a part of male usefulness is the capability of violence and choosing to not exert that violence.

03:12:52.000 I'm for peace, but I do understand that violence is necessary from time to time, especially in its defensive aspects.

03:13:01.000 To protect, yeah.

03:13:02.000 If you look at the police, the military, the reason why we live in a civilized society is Freedom isn't free.

03:13:10.000 It comes at a cost.

03:13:12.000 And that cost a lot of the times is intrusion in your civil liberties to a degree.

03:13:16.000 I think the United States does the best job of it where we have a semblance of freedom while simultaneously having a semblance of national security.

03:13:23.000 But you cannot have the utmost national security while simultaneously having the utmost freedom because the two counteract each other.

03:13:29.000 So I think we have a very good balance of it compared to the rest of the world, right?

03:13:33.000 People complain about the United States, whatever. 0.98

03:13:35.000 I still think we're the best house in a shitty neighborhood. 0.98

03:13:38.000 So, right? 1.00

03:13:39.000 So, my thing is, with freedom, shit, damn, I lost my train of thought. 1.00

03:13:46.000 I was talking about freedom. 1.00

03:13:47.000 Violence?

03:13:48.000 Violence.

03:13:48.000 Yeah.

03:13:50.000 Comes at a cost.

03:13:51.000 It comes at a cost. 1.00

03:13:52.000 Shit, what was I going to go with this? 1.00

03:13:55.000 Goddammit. 1.00

03:13:56.000 It'll come back to me.

03:13:57.000 My bad.

03:13:58.000 America.

03:13:59.000 I think it should be a...

03:14:01.000 It's been three hours.

03:14:02.000 It should be something of last resort.

03:14:05.000 Yeah.

03:14:06.000 Sometimes there are problems that you can't talk yourself out of.

03:14:09.000 I remember.

03:14:09.000 Sorry.

03:14:11.000 You need...

03:14:11.000 There needs the monopoly of power, right?

03:14:15.000 So security can only exist...

03:14:18.000 When there's someone to enforce that security, right?

03:14:21.000 So the monopoly power, the reason why we live in a civilized world that I was talking about, sorry, civilized first world country, etc., is because we have a government, we have the police, we have the military, etc., that enforce laws, right, on you.

03:14:35.000 If you go out and break the law, the police will come after you, and they will subdue you physically if they need to, and then they will constrain you in a jail cell, and no one wants to do that.

03:14:44.000 So there's physical ramifications that will lead to pain in the future if you do not follow the law.

03:14:50.000 So that monopoly of power is extremely important to keep semblance, right?

03:14:55.000 Or mutually assured destruction, right?

03:14:57.000 With the nuclear bombs.

03:14:58.000 Right now, we're the closest to being in a nuclear war than ever before because of our conflict with Russia. 0.61

03:15:03.000 But people having nukes...

03:15:06.000 You know, interestingly, keeps peace.

03:15:10.000 That's right.

03:15:12.000 The number of lives lost to war since the atomic bombs were dropped on Japan is significantly lower than the number of lives lost to war in the hundred years before that.

03:15:22.000 Good point.

03:15:23.000 I mean, I saw the movie Oppenheimer, right?

03:15:25.000 Okay.

03:15:26.000 And that's all I'll say.

03:15:29.000 And in that movie, though, dropping the bombs in Japan was kind of a last resort.

03:15:33.000 They did it to avoid the loss of life of American soldiers.

03:15:38.000 Because Japan immediately surrendered and ended World War II. We haven't been in a conflict of that level since then.

03:15:44.000 Right?

03:15:46.000 So...

03:15:47.000 The monopoly of power, the threat of violence does keep things...

03:15:50.000 I mean, we talked about it earlier.

03:15:51.000 When two men are sitting down, there's that...

03:15:54.000 And this is also, too, why I think, like, with men, they tend to be more respectful than women a lot of the times.

03:15:59.000 And I'm going somewhere with this.

03:16:00.000 Like, with men, when they speak to each other, there's that threat of violence. 0.99

03:16:03.000 There's that capability that, okay, this guy might fuck me up, I might fuck him up, but I'm not sure. 0.99

03:16:08.000 So you know what? 0.99

03:16:10.000 I'm going to be peaceful.

03:16:11.000 Keeps things in check. 1.00

03:16:13.000 With women, however, I've noticed, especially when they deal with a man, fuck you, motherfucker, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

03:16:17.000 And they might even enact violence on you because women don't have a good grasp on true violence, right? 1.00

03:16:23.000 They don't really know the carnage that men are capable of. 1.00

03:16:25.000 That's why we've brought girls on the show and they say crazy shit like, oh yeah, I'll fight a man. 1.00

03:16:29.000 I'll fight a man, blah, blah, blah. 0.99

03:16:30.000 And I'm like, wow, you really have never been punched in the face before by a male.

03:16:34.000 Yeah, Bill Burr had a lot of good bits on this. 1.00

03:16:37.000 You know, how much of an asshole he would be if it was illegal for someone to hit him. 0.99

03:16:40.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:16:43.000 But yeah, I think guys need to understand that and need to be capable of violence.

03:16:50.000 Let's see here.

03:16:51.000 And that was from the Americans. 0.58

03:16:53.000 So yeah, so you would say it's become feminized, the American psychology.

03:16:56.000 Certainly with that document and the way that they're treating masculinity in general these days, the profession is obviously totally feminized.

03:17:07.000 You made a video called Women Punish the Men They Like. 1.00

03:17:11.000 Sure.

03:17:12.000 Can you go a little bit deeper into that?

03:17:15.000 Yeah, I mean, I actually was inspired by this one with Tom Brady.

03:17:21.000 And Tom Brady got divorced, right?

03:17:23.000 And at least the official story there was, it was Giselle, right?

03:17:27.000 Yeah, because he wanted to play another season or something like that.

03:17:29.000 Yeah.

03:17:30.000 Allegedly.

03:17:31.000 Guess what?

03:17:31.000 He's a football player, the greatest that ever lived.

03:17:33.000 I think that she kind of knew that when she signed up for that.

03:17:36.000 So that's kind of strange.

03:17:37.000 But the idea here is that if Tom was just some schmoe, Oh, so the line was he was going to play another season and she really wanted him at home. 0.96

03:17:46.000 Yeah.

03:17:47.000 She really wanted him involved with the family.

03:17:49.000 It's like, okay, fair enough.

03:17:50.000 But if this guy was a deadbeat, if this guy was a schmo, do you think that she would really care that he wasn't around? 0.99

03:17:56.000 True.

03:17:57.000 On some level?

03:17:57.000 Yeah.

03:17:57.000 So it's like Right.

03:18:22.000 Men do this too.

03:18:24.000 They do this all the time.

03:18:25.000 Like a guy will be stone cold and kind of indifferent and have excellent game with sixes because he doesn't really care.

03:18:34.000 She's not that emotionally invested.

03:18:36.000 And those girls always seem to want a relationship with him. 1.00

03:18:39.000 And then if he actually gets his hands on eight or a nine, he throws all of that game out the window and he starts putting her on a pedestal and doing things that he would never do for the five or the six, right?

03:18:50.000 And what I tell guys is, Those numbers kind of only exist in your mind.

03:18:56.000 If it worked on the sixes, it's going to work on the nines.

03:18:59.000 Like, you did the right thing with the wrong girl.

03:19:02.000 You know that it worked because she was blowing up your phone and she was asking, when can I see you again?

03:19:07.000 And she wanted to get into a relationship.

03:19:09.000 If that worked on that woman, it will work on another woman. 1.00

03:19:13.000 Well said.

03:19:14.000 So, how do women punish the men they like? 1.00

03:19:17.000 I remember I was out to drinks with a woman I used to date, and one of her girlfriends was joining us.

03:19:26.000 And she was just in town for the weekend.

03:19:29.000 And we were like, hey, what do you want to do when you're here?

03:19:31.000 And she's like, yeah, well, there's this guy.

03:19:32.000 I don't really know him.

03:19:34.000 I'm not all that interested in him.

03:19:35.000 So, I actually am going to meet up with him for a drink later, and I'll probably just go home with him.

03:19:40.000 Mm-hmm.

03:19:41.000 Wow.

03:19:42.000 And I was like, oh, okay, that's interesting.

03:19:44.000 And she's like, yeah, I don't really like them all that much.

03:19:46.000 So it's no big deal.

03:19:48.000 And I think I turned to the girl I was dating.

03:19:49.000 I said, could you like me less?

03:19:52.000 So what do women do with the guys that they like? 1.00

03:19:55.000 They say, oh, I actually am interested in you.

03:19:58.000 I don't want to go too fast.

03:20:00.000 I want to take some time.

03:20:02.000 Take things slow.

03:20:03.000 Yeah.

03:20:04.000 And then when they really are interested in you, they want all of your attention.

03:20:07.000 They want all of your commitment.

03:20:08.000 This woman was behaving to a man that she wasn't interested in like most men would like to be treated. 0.99

03:20:15.000 It's like, wow, she's just going to come over.

03:20:17.000 We're going to have a drink. 0.98

03:20:18.000 We're going to have sex and she's going to leave. 1.00

03:20:20.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:20:21.000 Wow.

03:20:22.000 She must really hate me.

03:20:23.000 She's rewarding bad behavior. 0.98

03:20:23.000 Yeah. 0.98

03:20:25.000 Yes. 0.53

03:20:26.000 But the fact of the matter is to women, it's just sex. 1.00

03:20:26.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:20:31.000 What matters to them more is the emotional commitment.

03:20:33.000 And once they get that emotional interest, they start to deviate from the behavior that actually serves to lock in male attention.

03:20:42.000 Are people still watching three and a half hours?

03:20:50.000 Yeah, we're gonna close this thing out.

03:20:51.000 This is my last question.

03:20:53.000 Women making society polygamous. 1.00

03:20:59.000 Yeah.

03:21:03.000 Yeah.

03:21:20.000 Mm-hmm.

03:21:23.000 Mm-hmm.

03:21:50.000 That means somebody's sharing somebody.

03:21:52.000 Yep.

03:22:10.000 Well, yeah.

03:22:10.000 You also see the fact with respect to the distribution in body count, right?

03:22:15.000 The top 1% of women have had 50 partners or more.

03:22:19.000 The top 1% of men have had 150 partners or more.

03:22:22.000 Yeah.

03:22:30.000 Absolutely.

03:22:35.000 Absolutely.

03:22:46.000 Especially in income and education, they're doing really well relative to men.

03:22:50.000 Which basically means that if they're continuing to hang on to their hypergamy, there's a smaller and smaller pool of men that they're ever going to even consider as a potential mate. 0.97

03:23:00.000 Yep.

03:23:00.000 And these guys at the top enjoy unprecedented optionality.

03:23:05.000 Yeah.

03:23:05.000 And so you actually have a few guys who are having access to the vast majority of the sexual opportunity in the marketplace.

03:23:13.000 Yeah.

03:23:13.000 And the likelihood that any one of those guys at any given moment is going to give up all of that incredible optionality for this one woman is functionally very, very low.

03:23:22.000 Especially when he had to work to get there.

03:23:24.000 That's why I say men treat women the way women treat money. 1.00

03:23:28.000 Okay?

03:23:29.000 We can talk about that in a second.

03:23:30.000 Go into it, yeah.

03:23:31.000 When you get a chance, yeah.

03:23:32.000 What I'm saying here is...

03:23:34.000 The optionality.

03:23:36.000 The men that women want things from are the least likely to give it to them. 0.80

03:23:36.000 Yeah. 0.80

03:23:42.000 Yeah.

03:23:43.000 And women don't seem to understand that. 1.00

03:23:45.000 Yeah.

03:23:46.000 The men that women most want things from are the least likely to give it to them.

03:23:53.000 Cool.

03:23:54.000 If most women say want commitment, if most women want monogamy, if most women want long-term provision... 0.98

03:24:01.000 The men that they want those things from at the top 10%, they're the least likely to give them those things.

03:24:08.000 They'll give them a sexual encounter. 0.97

03:24:11.000 They don't have any problem with that, but they're very unlikely to give them those things because it means giving up all this other optionality.

03:24:18.000 Yeah, that they have to fight for.

03:24:20.000 Yes, men have to earn their optionality, just like women have to earn their money. 1.00

03:24:24.000 It's Women, it's like, would you rather spend your own money or somebody else's money? 1.00

03:24:28.000 Of course you'd rather spend someone else's money.

03:24:31.000 That is rational.

03:24:32.000 You're very loath to give up your money if you had to put your blood, sweat, and tears into earning it.

03:24:38.000 Men have to earn their sexual optionality. 0.95

03:24:41.000 That's why they're very loath to give it up.

03:24:43.000 They're also more likely to take it when it's offered.

03:24:46.000 Because I've never heard a woman who was offered money say, no thank you.

03:24:50.000 I have enough money or I have a job.

03:24:53.000 And I want to say this, because I want you to expand on that a little bit and we'll close out.

03:24:57.000 The top 10% of men?

03:25:03.000 This is what I was going to say.

03:25:05.000 Feminism, women being educated, women making money, etc. 1.00

03:25:08.000 Women getting all these rights and privileges and all this access. 1.00

03:25:12.000 What it inadvertently did in unforeseen circumstances, and no one talks about this, is it actually has put the top 1% of guys in the driver's seat.

03:25:22.000 They're the ones that really control the sexual marketplace. 1.00

03:25:26.000 Now, do women in general control it? 1.00

03:25:28.000 Absolutely.

03:25:30.000 But the reality is the guys at the absolute top, they control the sexual marketplace and they control the monopoly.

03:25:38.000 And women inadvertently did this by increasing their own status. 1.00

03:25:44.000 Because they're slaves to their hypergamy. 1.00

03:25:46.000 So therefore, since they're slaves to their hypergamy, and men need to always be in the social hierarchy at the top for women to be attracted, they've inadvertently given all the power to a small percentage of men that you just described are the least likely to give them what they want.

03:25:59.000 So they have to settle with a guy, a lot of times, that's on their level, or maybe lower, and they can't satisfy that hypergamous tendency.

03:26:06.000 Every girl come on the podcast. 0.98

03:26:07.000 Oh, I date a guy that's a bum. 1.00

03:26:09.000 I date a guy that's less than me. 0.96

03:26:10.000 Where's he at now?

03:26:10.000 That's my famous response.

03:26:11.000 And they never have an answer. 1.00

03:26:13.000 It's fucking crickets every single time. 0.99

03:26:14.000 So, yeah. 1.00

03:26:17.000 Real quick, you have an analogy with men treat women with the money analogy.

03:26:22.000 Can you tell the audience that one last time?

03:26:24.000 Yeah, I made a video a while ago.

03:26:27.000 It was entitled, Women Treat Men the Way Men Treat Jobs.

03:26:31.000 And it was kind of a way to introduce men to the concept of hypergamy.

03:26:35.000 It's not personal.

03:26:37.000 Yeah.

03:26:38.000 Like, you might be at a job.

03:26:40.000 You might not have any problem with your job.

03:26:42.000 You might even be happy with your job.

03:26:44.000 But if you get a call from a recruiter and says, hey, I just got off the phone with this company, they're willing to off you three times your salary.

03:26:51.000 They're going to give you unlimited PTO. You don't have to commute to work anymore.

03:26:58.000 You're at least going to entertain that offer.

03:27:01.000 And the vast majority of folks aren't going to entertain it for very long.

03:27:04.000 They're going to put in their notice.

03:27:05.000 And they're going to say, and they're going to believe it.

03:27:07.000 They're going to say, I wish you all the best.

03:27:10.000 It was great to work here.

03:27:12.000 You were so wonderful.

03:27:13.000 I really hope that you guys succeed.

03:27:15.000 I just have to do this for my career.

03:27:17.000 That's the right move to make as a career.

03:27:20.000 Right?

03:27:20.000 And no one is going to say, After all the training we gave you, it's like, of course we understand that they're going to go somewhere else if they offer them three times as much money.

03:27:31.000 That's how women treat relationships. 1.00

03:27:36.000 It's not personal.

03:27:37.000 It's what man offers the most compelling, complete person.

03:27:43.000 Salary package.

03:27:44.000 That comes back to your rationality that you described earlier.

03:27:46.000 Exactly.

03:27:47.000 And it's not just money.

03:27:49.000 Like, I know women, for example, who will take a pay cut if it means that they have more flexibility with their hours, or they don't have to commute. 0.98

03:27:57.000 So, I have another metaphor that's like, it's the cat that decides what milk is good.

03:28:02.000 You can't be pouring out milk and be like, cats should like this milk.

03:28:05.000 It's like, if there's no cats drinking your milk, dude, that milk ain't good.

03:28:08.000 The cat decides what milk is good.

03:28:10.000 You know?

03:28:11.000 The market dictates your value.

03:28:13.000 And it's that woman's preferences in that moment. 0.86

03:28:16.000 Like time, money.

03:28:17.000 It could be, for example, just lifestyle.

03:28:19.000 Whatever she wants as her primary agency, if the man provides it, that might be her gold.

03:28:24.000 And she's going to choose, all things being equal, the man that offers her the best possible option of her available options.

03:28:32.000 Right.

03:28:33.000 That's it.

03:28:33.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:28:34.000 And so the best way to secure the best possible relationship as a man is to be a woman's best possible option.

03:28:41.000 This is the other flip side of it. 0.98

03:28:43.000 It's like most guys know what it's like to have shitty jobs. 0.87

03:28:47.000 Like we were talking earlier, it takes about 10 years to build anything, right? 0.92

03:28:51.000 Now, you might have dealt with low-paying jobs or disrespectful bosses or Yeah.

03:29:11.000 Yeah.

03:29:18.000 Women know what's out there. 1.00

03:29:21.000 This is why I always call a bluff on a woman's jealousy tactic, which is other men make me look good. 1.00

03:29:29.000 You know what I'm saying?

03:29:29.000 I have nothing to fear from the average dude out there.

03:29:32.000 Go and see for yourself, sweetie.

03:29:34.000 No skin off my back.

03:29:36.000 So if you become a woman's best option, and she's actually had some experience in the sexual marketplace, not necessarily by sleeping around, but just by dating and knowing what kind of men are out there, and she can recognize you as a high-value man, you're going to have effortless relationships.

03:29:52.000 But you have to be significantly her best option.

03:29:56.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:29:58.000 The money thing real quick.

03:29:59.000 Can you describe that to the audience before we close out?

03:30:01.000 Because you had said women don't want to spend their own money, etc. 1.00

03:30:03.000 But there was a metaphor linked to sexual market value real quick.

03:30:07.000 Sure.

03:30:08.000 Yeah, the money thing.

03:30:08.000 So I made that video and people said, we'll do the same thing for women.

03:30:13.000 And okay.

03:30:13.000 So I thought about it and I came up with the metaphor that men treat women the way women treat money.

03:30:20.000 And you might think on the surface it's kind of the same thing.

03:30:23.000 Women treat men like jobs. 1.00

03:30:26.000 Men treat women like money. 0.99

03:30:27.000 Not the same thing at all.

03:30:29.000 Okay.

03:30:30.000 One of the main reasons why is what are your associations about work?

03:30:35.000 For most people.

03:30:36.000 Yeah.

03:30:37.000 80% plus hate their jobs.

03:30:38.000 Got those Mondays, man.

03:30:41.000 What's people's association with getting paid?

03:30:43.000 Awesome.

03:30:44.000 Oh, yeah.

03:30:45.000 It's the second Friday of the month.

03:30:46.000 You know what I'm saying?

03:30:47.000 Okay.

03:30:49.000 So this is what most women don't understand. 1.00

03:30:52.000 It's like, I can now go into a bar, and maybe in an hour I can come out with five numbers, okay?

03:30:59.000 It took me ten years to be able to pick up a girl in ten minutes. 0.97

03:31:07.000 Yeah.

03:31:20.000 Yeah.

03:31:25.000 Women don't understand. 1.00

03:31:27.000 When she says yes, that's my payday.

03:31:30.000 I've worked for 10 years to get that yes.

03:31:33.000 From her perspective, we just talked for five minutes.

03:31:35.000 I did 10 years of work to get that yes in five minutes.

03:31:39.000 You understand?

03:31:40.000 And that's why women don't get it. 1.00

03:31:44.000 We do all of that in order to get access to them.

03:31:46.000 So when we get it, it's payday.

03:31:48.000 We don't think we got to do anything more.

03:31:51.000 What kind of relationship goals do most men have?

03:31:54.000 They're just happy to be there most of the time.

03:31:56.000 You know what I'm saying?

03:31:58.000 Simple.

03:31:58.000 Because it's like, finally, I got the girl.

03:32:01.000 Women have no idea of how hard it is for the average man to get a woman. 1.00

03:32:07.000 Versus it's just the beginning for the woman. 1.00

03:32:09.000 You know what I'm saying?

03:32:10.000 And she might get frustrated like, where is this?

03:32:12.000 It's like, dude, I just put in a decade of work.

03:32:14.000 Can we just chill here for a while?

03:32:16.000 You know what I'm saying?

03:32:18.000 So that's one way, is that men have to earn their sexual opportunity. 0.99

03:32:23.000 And just like women are unlikely to pass up freely offered money, men are much less likely to pass up freely offered sexual opportunity.

03:32:33.000 Yeah.

03:32:35.000 Another part of this metaphor is, if we're talking about money, and you went to your financial advisor, do you think he would ever, like ever under any circumstances, say you need to invest all of your money into one stock?

03:32:48.000 No, absolutely not.

03:32:49.000 That would be ludicrous. 1.00

03:32:51.000 It would be stupid. 0.99

03:32:53.000 So a lot of men, let's say, diversify their portfolios. 0.99

03:32:57.000 And women do that too. 1.00

03:32:59.000 That's why we're talking plan B, plan C, plan D, plan Z. They understand this.

03:33:03.000 That's why they don't like it when men do that. 1.00

03:33:06.000 It's not because they don't get it.

03:33:08.000 They get it.

03:33:09.000 It's a taste of their medicine.

03:33:10.000 Kind of.

03:33:11.000 Yeah.

03:33:12.000 That's why they don't love that, because it's like, oh, he's doing kind of what I'm doing here, you know?

03:33:19.000 And if I'm doing it, then it evens out that power imbalance, which is generally not looked well on by the person who enters into the situation with more power, which is often the woman.

03:33:31.000 Yeah.

03:33:31.000 Does that make sense?

03:33:32.000 They're used to being in the driver's seat.

03:33:34.000 But it's ironic because that's what gets them attracted to you, is that you can kick them off the driver's seat and you're in it, which is interesting.

03:33:42.000 It's a fine line, man.

03:33:44.000 It's almost impossible to walk that line.

03:33:47.000 Women want a guy who's confident but not cocky.

03:33:49.000 It's like, okay, you're just walking on the razor's edge.

03:33:52.000 And that's just one of 100 examples I could give.

03:33:55.000 Yeah.

03:33:56.000 No, man.

03:33:57.000 Dude, I'll give you the last word, man.

03:33:59.000 He is Dr.

03:34:01.000 Orion Terabin.

03:34:03.000 Terabin, right?

03:34:04.000 Terabin.

03:34:04.000 Terabin, you got it.

03:34:05.000 Guys, subscribe to his YouTube channel.

03:34:08.000 30 minutes of pure value and pure content.

03:34:12.000 This was so much fun, guys.

03:34:14.000 Myron's good to meet you.

03:34:15.000 Walter, great to meet you.

03:34:16.000 Thank you for having me out in Miami.

03:34:17.000 I'm glad I came out here in person.

03:34:19.000 This is going to be the last time.

03:34:20.000 I would love to bring you back periodically and we can have these discussions.

03:34:23.000 Imagine him Rolo and maybe like Sartain.

03:34:28.000 We could definitely have that discussion.

03:34:29.000 I think it'd be great to have a panel show like that.

03:34:32.000 We'll bring you out and everything.

03:34:33.000 I think people really enjoyed this discussion.

03:34:36.000 We had like 10-11,000 the whole time watching.

03:34:39.000 Amazing.

03:34:40.000 You guys can be at the club and instead you're here and Club Fresh are hanging out with us, man.

03:34:44.000 Let's go!

03:34:45.000 I'll give you the last word, man.

03:34:47.000 Where can people find you?

03:34:48.000 Any projects you've got going on?

03:34:50.000 Sure.

03:34:51.000 Best way to find me is on YouTube.

03:34:52.000 That's Psych Hacks.

03:34:54.000 You can just look that up.

03:34:55.000 There are links to my website.

03:34:57.000 I do consultations for folks, men and women.

03:35:00.000 I've talked to them all over the world.

03:35:02.000 It's one of the best perks of this celebrity that I have now is access to people from all over the planet.

03:35:09.000 A real therapist, guys.

03:35:10.000 It's going to give you solutions.

03:35:12.000 I don't do therapy.

03:35:13.000 Make that distinction.

03:35:15.000 Sorry, my bad.

03:35:15.000 Well, real consultations and help you out.

03:35:17.000 Consultations are really about actionable, practical advice.

03:35:20.000 They're generally one or two sessions max.

03:35:23.000 It's like, here's, tell me your problem.

03:35:25.000 This is what you can do.

03:35:26.000 Let me hear how it goes.

03:35:27.000 Right.

03:35:28.000 I am working on a book.

03:35:30.000 Don't know what the title is yet.

03:35:31.000 Hope to finish it by the end of the year, but people have been asking for it.

03:35:33.000 I'm really excited about how it's coming out.

03:35:36.000 I think it's coming out really good.

03:35:37.000 I think it's going to be one of the best books on the subject, to be honest.

03:35:42.000 So, I haven't read yours yet, though.

03:35:43.000 Maybe you can give me a copy.

03:35:44.000 Oh, I wouldn't deserve less?

03:35:45.000 Oh, yeah.

03:35:46.000 Yeah.

03:35:46.000 I'll definitely send you a copy for sure.

03:35:48.000 Yeah.

03:35:50.000 What's he...

03:35:51.000 Anything else, Mo, here?

03:35:53.000 Yeah.

03:35:53.000 Because it lasts super chats.

03:35:56.000 Okay, we said 15 up, but I got you, Ali.

03:35:58.000 110 Ali goes, been with my girl for three years.

03:36:00.000 She'd been through tough times when I was in the hospital with health issues, but I came closer to my D in Islam and she's not Muslim, doesn't have traditional values. 0.99

03:36:06.000 Advice.

03:36:07.000 Let your leadership be what switches her over, my friend.

03:36:10.000 Women typically tend to align themselves with the strongest guy in their life. 0.96

03:36:13.000 She will switch over if she sees you as the best option, etc.

03:36:17.000 That's good advice.

03:36:18.000 Ashton Moore, her fresh and fit, thank you.

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03:36:24.000 Okay.

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03:36:32.000 Good job.

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03:36:35.000 Enrique Diaz goes, y'all help me.

03:36:37.000 Hey, guys, I own a moving business, and Callie and I want to fly out with a team and move your podcast for free. 0.99

03:36:41.000 After all, the YouTube BS, but Myron Buffett ass looks like the type to move his own shit. 0.99

03:36:46.000 I appreciate that, man. 0.99

03:36:47.000 We got a guy, so...

03:36:49.000 I really appreciate that, though.

03:36:50.000 Thank you so much for the love, my friend.

03:36:52.000 Just subscribe to Locals and the Rumble, and that will be...

03:36:56.000 That's all we need.

03:36:56.000 That's all we need, man.

03:36:57.000 But guys, go support Psych Hacks on YouTube.

03:37:01.000 Book a consultation.

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03:37:08.000 And yeah, guys, go support it, man.

03:37:09.000 Let's get them to 200K. And other than that, man, we'll catch you guys on the next episode of Fresh to Fit on Monday for After Hours.

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Fresh & Fit - August 19, 2023

Psychologist Exposes Dark Side Of Female Pyschology You NEED To Know!

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