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00:12:07.000That's scary though, but I'll leave it there.
00:12:09.000But wouldn't it be fair to say that if you want to get married, you need to display the traits that a wife you would do, which is like to stick by them through thick and thin?
00:14:33.000It actually does happen a lot more than people think because so many people, like, they can barely take care of themselves, but they have a dog.
00:14:39.000And then the dog isn't trained and it bites people.
00:15:24.000I did not know about your podcast before coming.
00:15:27.000I didn't know the name or anything until about yesterday afternoon.
00:15:30.000I just kind of started reviewing some of the videos before I came.
00:15:33.000And what were your first thoughts and or what did people tell you?
00:15:38.000I think I had a few different thoughts and opinions, but the further I kept kind of digging, I was like, okay, I mean, I understand where you come from.
00:20:08.000I haven't heard anything bad about you guys.
00:20:11.000I heard a behind-the-scenes thing that, you know, there was like a really long wait and somebody felt frustrated.
00:20:16.000But I can say that, you know, yeah, there was a long period between arrival and us starting, but you guys were so hospitable this whole time we've been here tonight.
00:22:35.000Well, we brought some women on in the past, older women that say, hey, go with older girls because X, Y, Z, and they try to justify their age.
00:22:43.000Okay, I see I got Melissa McCarthy on the panel.
00:22:46.000Might be a lot of goodies left down there.
00:24:35.00021 women in about a year is what I found.
00:24:39.000Problems with substance abuse and I was tired of being disrespected and I would rather live alone and struggling however it is that I'm going to struggle by myself and still be happy with myself than to be with someone for the rest of my life that's gonna treat me like garbage.
00:26:50.000Don't get married because you're pregnant or all the reasons that people do because they think they're in love without really getting to know somebody.
00:26:58.000And then you end up divorced with kids and you're just getting kind of bottom of the barrel mentally and emotionally speaking anyway after that.
00:27:07.000You realize that you spent 20 years or however many years it is that you spent with that person and you don't even know that person.
00:27:48.000Dom721 goes, shout out to Alina for taking the weight and to see approach and defending Andrew and Tristan instead of immediately saying guilty like all the other parasites.
00:29:51.000Um, I would say, I've been with my boyfriend for a long time, so, especially in business, since we started, when we started, we jumped right into working together.
00:30:01.000What I'm good at, he lacks on, and then what he lacks, what I lack on, he's good at.
00:30:07.000So that's how we kind of balance each other out.
00:30:09.000So his weak point to kind of like cover.
00:30:40.000What made you say, you know what, I'm gonna give up my career or my, I want to say, making money strategies to be with him and stay at home?
00:30:48.000Just having a kid or just, what was it?
00:30:50.000I feel like I enjoy the time that I have with my daughter.
00:33:09.000He felt that we had a spiritual connection when we met, which made me like him more, because usually guys are just, you know, oh, you're fun for tonight, and then I have your friend, and then her best friend.
00:33:19.000He was just like, wow, I met you for a reason.
00:33:22.000And I really connected with you, and it made me, we just were good friends.
00:33:51.000What do you think has him so reluctant to commit to you?
00:33:54.000If you had to do like some soul searching here and actually see like, okay, maybe he's not committing to me because X, Y, Z. We have a big...
00:35:53.000He wants to know that I would commit back 100%.
00:36:00.000Would it be fair to say that he probably doesn't trust you and he's not committing to you because he might think that you're gonna hook up with other guys or get with other guys or that you're still trying to keep options open?
00:36:45.000So is it, I know, I guess if you're, if you have pictures like that on the internet and then you're still entertaining other men, et cetera, don't you think that he's probably going to be reluctant to commit to you because he's like, yo, this girl's not No, because that's what they like to look at.
00:36:56.000I mean, he has a lot of girls in his phone that I see.
00:39:13.000Yeah, because we were, like, four years in, and we had been through, like, breakups and back together, and it was just, like, a lot of the same stuff.
00:39:48.000He was getting older too, but I'm older than him, so I felt like I wanted something either new or this needed to be more serious so that we can start working together and build a life together.
00:40:00.000Because it just kind of felt like we were boyfriend and girlfriend living together.
00:40:03.000What made you feel the need to put the pressure on him to marry you?
00:40:09.000I wanted to start building my business.
00:40:12.000I wanted to start building a life that is prosperous.
00:41:18.000And I just don't get, like, if he's not doing what he should be doing, if he was a husband while you're in a long-term relationship, what makes you think he's going to then do it just because he got married?
00:42:14.000What happens, though, if you get married and then, like, he doesn't step up is where I'm, like, Well, then there's always divorce, but that didn't happen.
00:44:24.000So my ex, we were together at such a young age, and I think probably one of the things I would hope that he would have valued in me was, excuse me, was my, was very supportive in everything that he wanted to do.
00:44:41.000If we needed to move someplace so it could advance his career and building his business, I was always behind him 100%.
00:44:51.000My viewpoint at that time, and I will say my viewpoint still remains, is that if we're together in whatever situation it is that we're in, and you're trying to do something that's going to advance you, we're doing that together,
00:45:07.000and a win for you is a win for us, right?
00:45:09.000So whatever it is that I can do to help support your career or when he was building his business or whatever it was, I had no problem doing that.
00:45:21.000At this stage in my life, I will tell you, I would not pour 100% of myself into another human being ever again.
00:45:32.000And I would absolutely still have that support for that person, but also give it to myself.
00:45:39.000And expect my partner to also give support to me in whatever it is that I'm trying to do for myself as well.
00:47:21.000Ladies, what's your opinion on sperm banks?
00:47:23.000Is it a good or bad thing for society and would you consider that option if you never met the guy to have a kid with by the time you're 30-35?
00:47:32.000I don't need a surprised Jeffrey Dahmer offspring.
00:47:36.000Unless, like, I don't know how those work.
00:47:38.000Do they give you, like, full reports on the person whose semen you're taking?
00:47:42.000I think you're given a profile and you can actually read through the person's profile so you can look at, like, their education level, even IQ level, things like that.
00:52:20.000We'll save that for later if we've got time.
00:52:22.000Speaking of Cube Ranger, Myron, would you say that you have mastered the understanding of female behavior when you can tell if a girl's on her period?
00:52:30.000So, Mo, they asked you earlier on in the show, they asked you, when you were eating the box and there was blood, did you stop or did you continue?
00:55:03.000Alright guys, from this point forward we're going to read 50 and up.
00:55:05.000Everything that came through will be shown on screen but we're only going to read 50 and up when it comes to Rumble Rants and FNFSuperChat.com.
00:56:45.000He picked me up, and he had recently broken up with his ex, and the entire—we still live in Kendall, so he took me to, like, Brickell to, like, watch the skyline.
00:56:55.000And the entire drive, he was on the phone with his ex, and her, like, just bitching at him.
00:59:57.000The looks and personality are up there at the top together.
01:00:00.000No, of course, but like you said, oh, to see how they look, etc.
01:00:04.000Then when you first meet them, the purpose of the first date is to see if their personality and their looks are something that I like.
01:00:11.000Okay, so you would still give it a chance if they didn't look like their pictures or whatever, but you said the top things for you are looks and personality.
01:00:43.000What is the purpose of a first date in general?
01:00:45.000So if you're at the first date, you probably already have at least some attraction to this person, even if it's only a photograph, or they texted you enough that there's enough personality that would get you to the table.
01:00:54.000So this, you should be past that already, and you get there, and this should be coming to it, looking at value, asking questions, real questions about values, you know?
01:01:04.000Like, I'm gonna, if I'm gonna go on a first date, I'm gonna be like...
01:01:25.000I would say you have to make sure that that's aligned.
01:01:30.000Because if that's not aligned, I don't care how cute he is or funny he is or how smart he is.
01:01:36.000Ultimately, if your values don't match, why can't you?
01:01:40.000Because you're just dealing with that person's representative for the first three months at a minimum.
01:01:44.000That's, you know, that's not incorrect, but you can, but they, yes, they could fake and say, I did, that happened to me, you know, this guy, oh yeah, you know, I'm about God and all that, and I was like, oh great, because the guy before that I dated was an alcoholic, and I was like, oh please, oh this guy's sober, and he's about God, and he was actually the devil.
01:02:03.000So yes, if they can, but at least you go, the question is, what's the most important thing?
01:02:08.000And it's at least looking for matching core values.
01:02:12.000I feel like if that's your purpose for a first date, then you're going to believe everything that they say and you're going to fall for them right away instead of taking your time.
01:02:21.000I think it depends on your experience in life, too.
01:04:32.000Well, like, if you go, okay, I haven't done it all in one place, but if you go, like, Brickle or Doral, where there are a lot of little places close by, you can kind of get away with it.
01:12:14.000Those guys that you went out with, did you go out with them because you actually wanted to try to connect with them or did they offer a really cool...
01:18:23.000And first of all, I'm surrounded by like-minded people.
01:18:27.000So why would we spend time doing our hair, doing our makeup, investing all that time into ourselves to go hang out with somebody that we don't like or aren't attracted by?
01:19:07.000But didn't leave the house going out thinking, I don't like this guy, I'm just going for a free meal.
01:19:12.000Got there, and I was like, I remember the reason I was on this date, and this guy, and he was chewing with his mouth open, and I was like, I can't, I gotta get out of here.
01:19:19.000He's chewing with his mouth open, so I said, I don't feel good, take me home.
01:19:23.000And I went in the house, and I went to the front window, and I saw him drive away, and I was like, bye!
01:19:28.000And then I went out the front door, and back in my car, and met my friends, but...
01:20:17.000I had a friend that would hang out with, not necessarily go out with a guy, but she would only hang out with that group of friends because they had money.
01:20:25.000So she knew she was going to get the drinks for free, get into the club, go on free trips, be on yachts.
01:20:45.000Have you or anyone you know used the first date to get experiences instead of getting to know the guy?
01:20:51.000I can't remember an exact situation, but I think that probably when I got divorced the first time, I was dating a lot, and there were probably people that I went out with that I didn't like or didn't know if I would like them, but they were inviting me to something that seemed cool.
01:22:21.000I hear a lot of, like, I need to be impressed.
01:22:25.000Like, no, you just show up, get to know somebody.
01:22:28.000It's nice if you get to go to a nice place, but I absolutely think it's kind of atrocious to think that a man has to tap dance for you, just for you to give him a shot.
01:23:13.000Are you entitled to feel special though?
01:23:16.000Well, I think if a man wants to date a woman and he's asking her out on a first date, then he needs to create like a really nice experience for her because that's why he asked her out on a date.
01:23:29.000I think that's kind of almost two separate things.
01:23:33.000I mean, yes, a man should put an effort, as we should put an effort, in showing up and making sure that we're bringing our best self to the table.
01:23:41.000But I think entitlement kind of implies you've got to really pull out all the bells and whistles and make this a night to remember.
01:32:10.000Are modern women entitled on first dates, in your opinion?
01:32:14.000Yes, and I do feel like sometimes it is justified, and sometimes it is just very unreasonable.
01:32:21.000Okay, and the times when it's justified, what do you think makes it justified?
01:32:24.000Depending on, say, how the guy that asked the woman on the date is...
01:32:32.000Let's see, carrying himself, or say if it's one of the guys that, if they invite you on the date and they're just like, hey, if I do this and this and this, I expect certain things afterward, you know?
01:32:41.000And then sometimes with that speculation, girls get a little hot-headed, like, oh, if you expect this out of me, what you did for me to sign up there?
01:32:49.000And then they start asking for everything and beyond once it's being...
01:32:54.000Once it's being said that like, hey, if I take you on this date and you agree, let's go here.
01:33:00.000I think I've noticed that usually it's when it's that demeanor, that's when girls are just like, listen, you need to do something for me because what do you mean you want something for me?
01:33:08.000You know, like I just agreed to get food.
01:34:02.000Do you think modern women are entitled on first dates in general?
01:34:08.000I'm not sure that I even consider myself to necessarily be a modern woman.
01:34:11.000I think what I've gathered, maybe just through social media, yes, I think they do find themselves to be quite entitled.
01:34:22.000But I think maybe it has to do with the environment that we're in, too.
01:34:27.000This is South Florida, and this is a whole other animal down here, so I think that that sense of entitlement carries through the culture here.
01:35:46.000What we did basically before was we asked some baseline questions so that we would establish when she's telling the truth and telling a lie.
01:35:52.000So, I'm going to get right into and just ask the question that we have in question.
01:35:58.000Have you, and I'm just going to make it very particular, have you or have you not went on first dates with men to get experiences rather than getting to know the guy?
01:36:28.000So if she's breathed heavy, then it's going to fluctuate.
01:36:30.000If she sweats, the green will go crazy, and the post will go crazy if she's, you know, high heart rate.
01:36:38.000Yeah, and just so y'all know, I asked the question, have you ever been out with a guy to get an experience rather than getting to know the guy?
01:39:38.000Well, going back to what she was saying before.
01:39:40.000Like, oh, if I take you on this day, I give you this experience, I'm expecting X, Y, Z. Which is why the girls say, oh, you want to take care of me, blah, blah.
01:44:02.000And at least, you know, What did I do that wasn't cooperative?
01:44:08.000Well, I mean, like, even, like, uh, when we were walking to the car, uh, you wouldn't, uh, put your hand around my arm or anything like that or hold my hand or anything like that.
01:45:40.000If we're not there in the relationship to meet at your apartment, then maybe we're not ready in a relationship for such a nice fancy restaurant as Aria.
01:45:53.000Especially if I'm paying for the whole thing.
01:46:23.000We literally left your place at the time the reservation was supposed to be.
01:46:29.000And I specifically said four because maybe we could get there Early and even have some time to get to know each other on the way there and while we're in the parking lot waiting for a reservation.
01:50:01.000She shows up with fake lashes, dollar store hoops, a slutty, trashy-looking top, and she looks like she's ready to go to Burger King, and she's mad because she got the Cheesecake Factory.
01:50:13.000Where does this entitlement come from?
01:50:16.000She's lucky Deepak from accounting even talked to her.
01:50:19.000Never mind, he's gonna take her out on a date.
01:50:23.000She felt like she was gonna die and if it was at Syria she probably should have made it clear the places that she prefers and he should have peeped her type of character before they even got that far.
01:50:37.000After waiting outside downstairs for an hour, he should have rethought his actions.
01:53:54.000You know, and she came up with the excuse, like, I was late from work, so why couldn't she communicate that with him so maybe he could have pushed the reservation at the nicer restaurant, right?
01:55:47.000I would say any guy that's dealt with women and, like, actually been out on dates and stuff like that has probably dealt with something similar to that before.
01:55:55.000Where a girl is like, she's more interested in the experience than you, and she's gonna make a scene or make life very difficult for you if you don't provide that experience.
01:57:34.000And she comes on and she actually runs the show.
01:57:36.000And I hate to say it, but that's happened more often than not where you get rambunctious, entitled, rude women That talk shit to guys that on a social status are way higher than them, but they don't understand because what I've come to realize is many modern day women don't understand hierarchy structures like men do.
01:57:52.000Like men understand, okay, there's a top dog in the room, I'm gonna shut the fuck up.
01:57:55.000Women don't operate like that is what I've realized.
01:57:59.000General disregard and lack of respect for men in general by females in 2023.
01:58:04.000Maybe older women have a bit more respect, like I see from what you guys, how you guys spoke, that you guys come from an era where there was general respect for masculinity.
01:58:12.000But in 2023, it's a lost start, I'm telling you.
01:58:47.000Not only that, but yeah, and it's very obvious that there haven't been, you know, consequences for her actions, which is why she cried after the fact.
01:58:55.000But, I mean, that's just an example to give you guys.
01:58:58.000I mean, most of the girls that come on are fairly respectful and everything else like that, but I had to, like, put women in their place a bunch of times as, like, hey, who the fuck do you think you're talking to?
01:59:07.000And to, like, snap them back into reality, like, that's not how it is.
01:59:12.000And I'm opening it up to you guys for discussion what you guys think on this.
01:59:15.000As a man, you get a very different side to females a lot of times because they think that they can walk all over you because most guys are pussies.
01:59:23.000And if she's attractive, the higher the likelihood that she's gonna be disrespectful or think that she could walk all over you or whatever.
01:59:29.000And you sometimes have to give them a quick little reminder like, what the fuck is this shit?
01:59:33.000And the guy here, he ended up doing that, but it took him way too long.
01:59:48.000It wasn't until the end when he started to assert some boundaries that she started to respect.
01:59:52.000And that's what I've come to realize is that when you take things away from women or when you let them know that, hey, I'm not going to tolerate this fuckery, that's when you start to get respect from women.
02:01:38.000Just how does this guy, like, is he so emasculated that he just lets her keep recording this conversation instead of just saying, this conversation's over, turn off the camera, I'll drive you home, turn it off, or you can get the hell out of the car.
02:02:15.000I've had to tell girls to shut up before.
02:02:19.000And that's kind of what I call the either they comply or goodbye thing.
02:02:24.000Some girls get in line immediately and they're like, I needed that.
02:02:28.000Or some girls are like, blah, blah, blah.
02:02:29.000And then you kind of know, you filter out the girls from there.
02:02:32.000But it's annoying how in today's day and age, women don't naturally become feminine, that you have to almost assert your dominance over them to get them in line.
02:02:39.000Which, if you have to do that, I think that's not a girl that you want to take seriously anyway.
02:03:59.000If your girl is rude and crass and rambunctious, etc., a lot of times, out in public especially, that tells me more than likely she wears the pants, she tells you what to do.
02:04:13.000If a woman is nice, docile, feminine, etc., a lot of the time she's with a guy that has a shit together.
02:04:20.000That's why she's able to be in her feminine energy all the time.
02:04:22.000Whenever a woman is like that, super rude and rambunctious, I'm like, oh man, her man probably doesn't put his foot down enough with this chick.
02:04:29.000Sorry, someone was going to say something?
02:04:48.000I mean, I have to be in my masculine because I'm head of my household and I have a lot of responsibilities for myself and for my children, right?
02:04:56.000However, I know when to drop that, right?
02:05:55.000I mean, maybe you guys might not see it, but any girl that sits there and tries to challenge your authority, that's a masculine trait to have.
02:06:17.000If you're a man in modern day society, knowing what you know now after the video and everything else that transpired, where would you take a woman on a first date?
02:06:26.000We are going for coffee and maybe we're spending about 30 minutes to 45 minutes together as long as it takes you to finish that cup of coffee.
02:06:40.000Unless I find that the female I'm with, speaking as a man, I'm masculine in this moment, okay?
02:06:48.000Unless I've already had great communication with this girl and I know I want to do something more, then for sure we could go for a light dinner.
02:06:57.000At a very casual place, someplace where we can sit and talk and have just a nice conversation, right?
02:07:03.000But otherwise, yeah, we're going for a coffee.
02:07:06.000What if she bucks at your dinner suggestion?
02:07:15.000If I was a man, I would just order takeout, have food already ready, and ask what they want ahead of time, go to the beach, do something like natural, and see if I actually enjoy their time, and then put some candles, make it kind of cute, you know, because girls love romance, whatever, make them like me and see if I like them.
02:08:15.000So making the experience low cost and or free to assess actual, so for you.
02:08:22.000So making the experience low cost and or free.
02:08:25.000Maybe bring them a gift so it's not like, so they don't think it's something free, but taking them, not in a place where they could Like, say, oh, this is five-star.
02:09:07.000Yes, but of course with the conversation beforehand, if I establish that I really like this person, I want to impress this girl, I want her to know when I'm coming to table, I would probably plan...
02:09:18.000A combination of nice with experience.
02:09:21.000So, like, I love the idea of ordering food, creating your own scenery, your own vibe, and then being out somewhere that doesn't have to be too expensive.
02:09:35.000Well, the beach was also one of my first ideas, but also a lot of apartment buildings, say if you're not comfortable with someone knowing exactly where you live, a lot of buildings, especially here in Miami, have nice lounge areas.
02:09:47.000I feel like you can make a really nice date in the lounge area of a building.
02:09:51.000Of course, if there's privacy, hopefully not a lot of people are there, but...
02:11:42.000I probably do drinks and appetizers at a cool place, either someplace on the beach, on the water, or maybe a restaurant high up in a building.
02:11:50.000And if it goes well and we're having a good time, say, what do you want to do next?
02:12:04.000Oh, I've had people, I think I've caught people trying to catch me in a gif of that on a date.
02:12:10.000They'll be like, you know, before the date, they'll be like, oh, yeah, and at this time, I have, you know, a meeting or work to be at, so I can't be out late, and then we're on the date, and it's going great, and they're just like, oh, yeah, my meeting's canceled.
02:12:21.000If you want to hang out more, then, you know, that'd be fine.
02:14:32.000Are there no standards for what you want for your own kids?
02:14:35.000I wouldn't want that, but what I'm saying is I wouldn't just tell him no if he was with someone and then I found out that that was her situation.
02:14:44.000That makes them want to do it more, I think.
02:15:11.000You better be prepared for the backlash and the casualties that come with it.
02:15:15.000But if you love this woman, if she loves you, if she's willing to stick by you and y'all have y'all arranged relationships and dynamics, how y'all are comfortable and you will thrive, it's not my place.
02:20:52.000Jamaica made that furniture store seem like the French Riviera.
02:20:57.000Alright ladies, so we'll get last thoughts on the show or questions or comments or disagreements or anything else like that and we can start here.