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00:05:50.000And then you said you're a rapper and you're a manager of a restaurant, and then you said you have a best degree in international development.
00:14:56.000I just want to know your take on this because I think it's very good that we have a primer here because I think for dating, men have an expectation.
00:16:56.000Yeah, because I mean, you said that the pussy chooses, but I would argue it's the female mind that chooses and then the vagina reacts to what it interprets from what the man is saying.
00:17:04.000I don't mean the pussy just as a physical attribute.
00:17:20.000Yes, most men don't understand when women say the vibe.
00:17:24.000It's a very crude way to explain how I feel at a given time based on what the man is telling me, what I'm experiencing, the situation that we're currently in.
00:17:36.000It's a very ambiguous term that women use to describe the atmosphere.
00:17:42.000Well, I'd say the vibe is frequently changing, so it makes sense it could be confusing.
00:17:47.000No, I'm talking about, like, a lot of men are not familiar with the ambiguous term that women use, the vibe, but it encompasses many different things.
00:24:47.000I mean, men and women are very different from a cognitive standpoint, from a physiologically standpoint, so therefore we're not, we're extremely different.
00:24:55.000So I would say, because you basically phrased it, you phrased me in an egalitarian question, like, well, what if the roles were flipped?
00:25:03.000And I'm like, well, that situation wouldn't really come up because men aren't in the driver's seat when it comes to dating, like women are.
00:25:10.000I mean, just like on a human-to-human level, like, if you want to get to know somebody before you start a sexual relationship with them, you make them wait.
00:25:18.000You don't just jump into bed with them right off the bat.
00:25:21.00095% of men would never make a woman wait.
00:25:51.000I think culturally, too, it has a lot to deal with it, but I think we're also just people like individuals trying to have genuine connections with each other.
00:26:01.000Yeah, but individuals are way more alike than people want to admit.
00:26:04.000Individuals are way more alike than people want to admit?
00:28:18.000I think that if there is something to be said when guys tell other guys, like, you should only look for women, that they say it in Spanish, que tienen las ganas.
00:28:36.000Sometimes, if they're lonely, they may smash.
00:28:39.000Sometimes, if they're bored, they may smash.
00:28:41.000Sometimes, if they're drunk, they may smash.
00:28:43.000But I don't think, I think, I always tell, I have guy friends and I tell them all, if you keep dating a girl more than three dates and you don't smash, move along.
00:28:52.000Because nine times out of ten, it is what, you know what it is, it is what it is.
00:28:57.000She doesn't F with you, she's using you for the date, she's going to get a meal ticket, like, and the, like, get it done, whatever.
00:29:05.000But at least, like, from, like, the guy, the friend, They're not watching this, but my guy friends, like, they'll all attest to them.
00:29:20.000That's why I keep saying, like, women don't use a rating scale.
00:29:23.000Men use rating scale because it's not even a rating scale.
00:29:27.000Guys are just trying to understand women, and women don't realize that men are trying to understand women.
00:29:34.000So the only way that men can, like, equivocate what women are thinking is they go into a rating scale to try and understand what girls like.
00:29:42.000And that's why he's asking the question of, like, would you, wouldn't you, should you, shouldn't you?
00:29:45.000And the reality is, if a girl is hot and we have hormones, we have more emotions than men, you guys think more logically, so you're thinking analytically, but we think emotionally.
00:29:54.000And if you have emotions, you have inspiration, you have motivation, you're gonna be all wet, and you're gonna be like, Daddy!
00:30:18.000And then for you, how long did you make him wait?
00:30:20.000When I was 23, I think I made a guy wait six months because we were friends first, but it was just because we were friends first and we were in a friend group and we didn't want to mess up the friend group.
00:30:30.000Other than that, the dude stayed in my bed.
00:30:32.000Let me tell you this, guys, in the chat.
00:30:35.000The guy was in my bed and stayed in my bed and didn't touch me and I was losing my freaking mind.
00:32:26.000When he was at his prime, and then your other guy, when he was at his prime, who did you like better?
00:32:33.000Um, I'm gonna tell you this, the one that I almost married is the one that I was in love with because of, no, because he showed.
00:32:42.000And the one that I was with recently, the problem with him is he was cheated on twice before, and so every time that I wanted the intimacy.
00:32:50.000He was there with opening the doors and stuff.
00:32:52.000But that actual ride or die, every time we got close to it, boom, he'd disappear for hours or days and not respond.
00:33:00.000And I was like, I can't do this anymore.
00:33:02.000There's too much push and pull, too many games, too many this.
00:34:28.000There's multiple components to attraction.
00:34:30.000What I simply was saying was, it seems to me, from your story, from your own words, the first guy was far more attractive from a holistic standpoint, and he was the better candidate.
00:34:40.000However, he fucked up and lost that attraction from getting into drugs, etc.
00:34:47.000He was also attractive, but he did not compare it to the other guy because he did certain things that made you lose attraction for him, such as hot and cold signals, etc.
00:42:09.000As your brother, if a woman was employing the same tactic you're employing right now on a guy, making him wait forever, would you tell him, stop?
00:44:52.000But For me, to advise my brother, if that bitch is throwing it out and she ain't trying to really throw it and give it to you, move the fuck on.
00:45:22.000It's interesting how when you ask women how long should they wait, they give you advice that puts them in the driver's seat.
00:45:29.000But then if you take a loved one and put them in a position where the woman has the driver's seat, they immediately say, no, get that bitch out the driver's seat, leave.
00:46:36.000I would say in general, like, women really have an amazing privilege to be able to literally make zero sense, contradict themselves in open forums, and no one says anything.
00:46:46.000Bro, you deciphered my entire, like, jargon.
00:46:48.000You know, because, you know, women is different.
00:46:49.000They have a lot of emotion inside, you know?
00:47:21.000Do men and women have the same rights, privileges, and accesses when it comes to equality under the law and access to certain things like education?
00:47:45.000I don't because, I mean, even though we have certain rights, I feel like at the end of the day, if I vote or whatever the fuck, you know what I'm saying, that shit is just being tossed to the fucking side.
00:49:01.000And it's not just because of what he's going to say, but it's also women, as I studied it, women don't ask for enough.
00:49:08.000And so that wage gap, when they actually do the study and the statistics, doesn't account for how women don't speak up and ask for it.
00:49:14.000A man will say, yo, I'm big D mofo, you need to pay me or I'm out, and they'll willingly leave to another place and they'll get a higher bump.
00:49:22.000So when you look at the wage gap, it doesn't account for any of those discrepancies at all.
00:49:30.000I would say that that addresses the privileges aspect of it because I think men in this culture are much more often raised to be confident, aggressive, go after what they like.
00:49:46.000So, women, we are told our entire lives, when we're born and watching the movies and societal standards, you can be anything, you can do anything, you can, everyone will always be there.
00:49:55.000The world owes you, the world is your oyster, blah, blah, blah, Prince Charming, all the movies, right?
00:50:00.000Me neither, but regardless of the fact, society standards, it is there.
00:50:04.000So, even if we weren't raised that way, and you were a little tough, you go out into the world, there will be someone to take care of you, right?
00:50:11.000My experience was like that as a woman.
00:50:37.000Like, look at the little cute little things.
00:50:39.000I just had to say, hey, yo, Erin, can I come on to the podcast?
00:50:42.000And I'm on here in front of millions of people while there's a bunch of podcasters that wish that they could come here and have this clout and can't.
00:51:18.000And then you think about how many of them try to unalive themselves.
00:51:21.000And that's the real issue of where this whole thing started from.
00:51:24.000There are so many places for men to go to because there are so many men that are dealing with mental health issues and dealing with court systems and women taking their children and taking their money and taking everything.
00:52:00.000I think where you fall short of that argument, though, is that we're all here because somebody considers us attractive.
00:52:07.000So that was what I grew up with in the culture is that as a woman your value is equated to what you look like and you're supposed to sit around and wait for a man who made the money to come and save you.
00:52:27.000I think it is hard, but I think that it's harder.
00:52:29.000It's harder to be raised not in that culture.
00:52:31.000It's hard to be raised to wait and then be taught to go after what you want as opposed to being raised to go after what you want and then you get into the real world.
00:52:40.000What do women say when we say, like for me, right?
00:52:43.000As a woman, I say to a man that I'm dating, I don't want to do it alone.
00:53:51.000If you were married, you could not charge a man with SA up until the year of 97.
00:53:55.000So I think there's a lot of ways that women have been institutionally oppressed.
00:54:00.000And number one, just simply not being able to have a credit card, not being able to have your own bank account.
00:54:05.000That kind of shit was going up until the 90s.
00:54:08.000And so a lot like, I think, marginalized cultures are the same in a lot of ways that it's like you've...
00:54:16.000You've had your shit cut off for a long time, and so now you say, oh, now we're all equal, so we all have the same start.
00:54:21.000Well, it's like, we started way the fuck back there.
00:54:24.000Okay, so you're saying that the reason why women earn less and there's a wage gap is because of SA being allowed until 1997 within the confinements of marriage and because women didn't have access to credit cards?
00:54:39.000Yeah, I would say institutionalized financial oppression.
00:54:43.000That is the definition of financial institutional oppression.
00:54:47.000Being a housewife used to be a status symbol.
00:54:47.000You remember that women being a household wife?
00:55:22.000But we got tricked right now because we're looking at it as this demonic thing, like how dare I not have these rights and possibilities when really it was a status symbol and it just changed.
00:57:36.000They work jobs that are less dangerous.
00:57:39.000They are more prone to take paternity leave, etc.
00:57:42.000In general, women earn less because they deserve less most of the time.
00:57:45.000They also don't go into job fields that make more money.
00:57:48.000The top 10 jobs that pay the least, women go into those career fields.
00:57:51.000And the top 10 job fields that make the most, men go into those career fields.
00:57:54.000And 10 jobs that tend to make the most tend to be harder, more laborious, more hours needed, etc.
00:57:59.000Men are more willing to sacrifice to earn money because men understand that their value is derived from their title and how much they earn.
00:58:07.000Women, on the other hand, Let's be honest.
00:58:10.000No one really gives a fuck about your title or how much money you earn or your status.
00:58:38.000What I'm trying to say is that a woman's status does not affect her ability to mate, but a man's status absolutely does affect his ability to mate because women date across and above hierarchies.
00:58:59.000I say all this to build, to set it up.
00:59:02.000The reason why women earn less is because they deserve less, because women don't have the same proclivity to go out and earn resources because it doesn't affect their attraction.
00:59:11.000It doesn't affect their sexual market value.
00:59:13.000Most women would prefer to have a strong man, take care of them, be the breadwinner, stay at home, and work a job kind of on their terms, not be a breadwinner.
01:00:38.000Women tend to major in career fields and majors that don't have a high income capacity a lot of the time.
01:00:45.000I'm not going to disagree with you there, but I'm going to again say that culturally, as I said before, women are taught to wait for a man to come around.
01:00:53.000Are women human beings sentient, able to make their own decisions?
01:00:57.000Okay, so whose fault is it if they go into a career field that makes less money and major in something stupid that isn't going to make the money?
01:01:09.000It's every individual's fault what they want to go into.
01:01:12.000Let me bring this in because this is a problem.
01:01:14.000Women want to be able to be equal to men, have all the same authority as men, while simultaneously not having responsibility.
01:01:21.000If you go into a stupid career field, you deserve to make stupid money.
01:01:25.000But women want to be able to go into stupid career fields, say I'm strong and independent, and make the same as a man that goes into STEM, that goes into Alaska wildfishing, that goes into offshore drilling, that goes into police, go into military, etc.
01:01:44.000Do you think a man working a laborious job, something very dangerous, deserves to make more money than a man who is a CEO who's racking in millions of dollars of profit annually for a company?
01:02:09.000You're going to put the CEO, you're going to make sure that somebody who your shareholders like, who agrees with the people who are paying the bills.
01:02:18.000Being liked and being socially calibrated and reading the room and being able to get investors to take you seriously and getting people to respect and follow you is a skill set.
01:02:26.000I also want to say that statistically speaking, women out earn men in CEO positions.
01:02:45.000I would like your style on that because women tend to run businesses into the ground because they operate on a communitarian basis, not a meritocracy.
01:02:54.000Are we able to actually do a fact check?
01:02:56.000Because this is a statistic I know very well.
01:02:59.000Yeah, and actually 40% of women actually make up the workforce.
01:03:31.000Well, and not only that, but I was going to say women actually, they did a study on women that are CEOs, they actually did a projection to see how they would do in their long-term career and they actually nine times out of ten end up retiring and being a housewife at the end.
01:03:49.000Wait, doesn't everybody end up retiring at the end?
01:03:53.000What she's saying is that women are more likely to leave the workforce to pursue family and children over pursuing a career.
01:04:00.000Men are more likely, because again, like I said before, men have a natural proclivity to create resources, whereas women don't.
01:04:07.000I've always said, typically women work these higher end jobs as a mean to an end to find a man that makes more money than them can take care of them.
01:04:12.000Most women don't want to be breadwinners in a situation where they're taking care of their family.
01:04:16.000They want to be with a man that earns a lot more money than they do so they can stay at home and work on their terms.
01:04:21.000Well, I would also say that women are able to do something that men can't.
01:04:33.000No, but I'm saying that having and raising your children, I would not say, is any less valuable work than you going out and creating the resources to be able to provide for them.
01:05:05.000But the argument is simply that women earn less because they deserve less because they work less hard than men in general when it comes to the workforce.
01:05:13.000I'm not saying that having a child is a useless job.
01:05:29.000I would say that there's a distinct difference between that statement, they earn less because they deserve less, which is where I would bring up, okay, well, we have your children, we raise them.
01:05:51.000I would prefer to hire a man who I know I'm going to be able to get 40 years out of versus a woman who's going to potentially have a child and leave the workforce.
01:06:00.000Now I'm out paying her paternity leave, etc.
01:06:02.000So I'm going to bring that back to what you said before.
01:06:06.000Privileges that men have that women don't.
01:06:07.000So you just said you would hire a man over a woman.
01:06:10.000Is that not a privilege that a man has over a woman?
01:06:12.000I was using a hypothetical and paternity leave is given to both genders.
01:07:07.000What I'm saying is that I'm sticking to the topic at hand.
01:07:11.000I'm simply saying that The wage gap exists not because of gender.
01:07:16.000It exists because of personal choice, and women tend to make really bad choices when it comes to making more money and being successful in general because women prioritize family and children over career, which is completely fine.
01:07:28.000But we can't sit here and say, oh, women earn less because they're female.
01:07:32.000No, they earn less because of their personal choices.
01:07:34.000Well, wouldn't you say that men make the personal choice to go out and try and earn more money for their family?
01:08:02.000You're willing to, as a man, make a sacrifice to not be around your children to provide for our family.
01:08:07.000But understand, he's making that sacrifice to not take the maternity leave because his wife or his partner who's having the baby who is making that choice to be at home to raise a kid in family, he cannot be at home to raise a kid in family.
01:08:22.000He gotta go motherfucking work and pay the goddamn bills.
01:08:25.000You guys are giving it from the wrong perspective.
01:08:27.000If I'm a cold-hearted business person, I'm not going to hire you.
01:08:49.000While you're having a kid and taking the maternity leave, your man is going to work to pay the fucking bills so you could be at home and breastfeed your motherfucking newborn.
01:09:36.000If a man is willing to work more hours to provide for his family, he deserves to be paid more than the woman that's going to sacrifice working to have a child and stay at home.
01:09:50.000You are speaking about a specific situation, right?
01:09:54.000A woman who stays home to have children and a man...
01:10:05.000You guys understand that if a man is more willing to work more hours to provide for a family, that by default means he's willing to work harder than a woman, so he deserves to be paid more.
01:10:16.000When you have all the women understanding, when you have all the women understanding and two women trying to explain it to you and you still can't fathom it, that's the reason.
01:11:32.000I didn't say that men are willing to work more hours than women.
01:11:35.000I'm just saying that you said, do women deserve to make less because they do less work?
01:11:40.000My argument is that women are doing work by having and raising your children.
01:11:44.000So I don't think that they deserve to make less.
01:11:46.000They do because they're not putting that work into the company.
01:11:50.000That is an assumption that you are applying to women across the board.
01:11:53.000I'm saying that the wage gap exists whether or not you decide to stay home and have children.
01:11:58.000I could be a lesbian, I could never have kids, and the wage gap still applies to me even though I'm not a mother who wants to stay at home with my kids.
01:12:04.000No, it's not because if you actually equate hours worked, okay?
01:12:07.000If you equate hours worked, experience, degrees held, type of job, etc.
01:12:12.000When you equalize everything, the wage gap, guess what?
01:12:48.000The wage gap that I am referring to is two people who have the same job, the same position, the same amount of degrees, the same experience.
01:12:57.000That is a fallacy, one thousand percent, because when you actually compare apples to apples, same degree, same education, same everything, it's equal.
01:13:06.000As a matter of fact, women earn a little bit more when they did this study at Google.
01:13:37.000All working men versus all working women is very vast because you have different degrees, different jobs, different hours of work, different levels of laboratorious work, all this stuff.
01:13:48.000But when you actually equalize a man and a woman working in the same job field, same experience, same degree, same everything, the wage gap is evaporated.
01:17:23.000You would settle for a woman who is basically leeching off of you and taking your resources as opposed to going after a woman who could actually contribute to your net worth.
01:17:34.000See, this is where women just are completely clueless when it comes to what men want.
01:18:17.000But I'm also never going to ask a man to pay all my bills either.
01:18:20.000So that's just my own standard, personally.
01:18:22.000But we're just saying, naturally speaking, if that's the whole setup right there where you're making more money than your man, you're not going to want to take care of him.
01:18:29.000No, but honestly, if I see in a man like a partnership, a real partnership, and he is providing for me in ways that are not financial, then I will pick up the bill.
01:20:37.000This is what I mean when I say women can kind of go through life and not understand the male perspective on anything because men come up to you, so you don't have to go fuck about the male perspective.
01:20:45.000But men, on the other hand, have to understand women.
01:20:48.000You can run around and say arbitrary random things like, the vibe, the vibe.
01:20:51.000I have to know what the fuck the vibe is to get laid.
01:20:55.000See, it's funny because you'll say the vibe.
01:20:56.000I have to know exactly what the vibe means.
01:20:59.000You might not even know what it means, but I have to know what it means to get laid.
01:23:10.000Men actually initiate in their later years as well.
01:23:13.000The same statistic shows that women initiate in their 30s my age and men initiate And men initiate actually in their 40s, but it's the same stats.
01:23:24.000The men are actually still divorcing women later on in life around 40, and women are divorcing men around 30.
01:24:15.000I've not seen that before, and so I can't really say the validity to it.
01:24:19.000Okay, you don't have to agree that the sky is blue, but the fact is that women initiate an overwhelming amount of their divorces, and women initiate most of the breakups in traditional casual relationships.
01:24:29.000I mean, how many times have you broken up with a guy versus you've been broken up with?
01:25:29.000And also, infidelity does have a point to plan it because legally, if a man, if anybody is cheating and you can prove that in court, then you can take them for more money.
01:25:39.000So if a man is cheating more often, then it would make sense that women would initiate the divorce because they're unsatisfied.
01:25:46.000If your man was making money and you know he was cheating, would you leave still?
01:25:51.000Yeah, because if I can prove that he's cheating, then I can get bigger.
01:25:55.000Cardinal, your insurance, your rent, your life, everything, even your kids, daycare, whatever the case may be.
01:26:22.000Now, if you guys want to actually talk about the why, I mean, there's a bunch of reasons why, but I would argue it's mostly in the female fault why women leave, because women think that the grass is greener on the other side.
01:26:33.000And you can, I mean, we can have a whole conversation about this shit, but the internet, dating ass, Instagram...
01:26:38.000Actually, it's single parent households that are the reason that why men are not fulfilling women's needs and women are so insatisfied and not self-regulating their emotions and relying on men because of all the single family households.
01:27:17.000I wanted to let you finish your thought.
01:27:19.000I mean, I'm not trying to irritate you.
01:27:21.000I'm just trying to have a discussion because the reality is there are differences, but it's also, like, I'm going to tell you straight up, like, I align with Blackpill because it's looks, money, status, act accordingly.
01:27:30.000It's not just looks, money, status, then, like, that's it.
01:27:33.000It's, and, like, you say that you don't care about Blackpill.
01:28:27.000I've been finding women that are wanting to find true love, that are wanting to find a man that's going to support them.
01:28:33.000But the problem that I talk to women is, like I said before, women were delusional in the sense that we think that men have it easier, the patriarchy.
01:28:39.000But the reality is, we got the golden ticket.
01:28:41.000It's just a perspective that's messed up.
01:28:43.000And that's what he's trying to like get you.
01:28:45.000It's not I don't think you guys are doing.
01:28:50.000I know that you guys are here and doing this weekly because you're trying to help young men in this generation, especially with the court system that's going on.
01:29:14.000The reality is, is that your demographic will be my children.
01:29:18.000And so what's gonna happen is if we continue on this trajectory where women are the devil and then men the patriarchy or the devil, is that we're losing the ability to understand that men have it very difficult in life to provide to heart.
01:29:31.000And I'm saying this as a woman that has provided, that has worked like a man.
01:29:44.000Would you guys agree that men and women They both would rather raise a family and have a relationship with one person, have a team, have a unit family.
01:29:58.000Both men and women, regardless of your gender, you would prefer to have one person that you are with for a lifetime raising your children together.
01:30:05.000It's ideal, but most men want quantity.
01:33:20.000Marriage is at an all-time low, but cohabitation actually made up eight points for the seven points we lost in marriage.
01:33:27.000So, while marriage lost the seven points, cohabitation went up eight points, so therefore we actually have not lost people coming together.
01:35:20.000All right, yo, while we wait for Chris to pull that up, guys, we got almost 13,000 of y'all watching on YouTube alone.
01:35:26.000Do me a favor, like the video, probably almost 20K between Rumble and YouTube.
01:35:31.000So like the video, guys, because the engagements have been kind of low, and I've been getting a headache.
01:35:34.000No offense, ladies, but you guys have been saying a lot of stupid things during the course of the show, and my hair is definitely thinning.
01:35:48.000I mean, like I said before, I'm not going to knock y'all, because women can kind of go through life and say dumb shit and nobody says anything, bro.
01:36:32.000Ladies, the best way to know that you have a good man is if he opens up the door for you, but if you don't say thank you or allow him to open the door, you're not a good woman.
01:36:59.000I feel like sometimes you don't need to have your hand shaken and have someone say, thank you, you did a good job, or thank you, I'm grateful for what you did to me.
01:37:08.000I feel like if you're going to give, you should give.
01:37:13.000I agree, but manners is a thing though.
01:37:16.000Manners is a thing, so I feel like if I gracefully accept it and I'm having a good time and I'm happy in the presence and I'm involving you in the presence, I shouldn't have to say thank you because I give to you back in other ways, whether you don't agree with the love language,
01:40:38.000Yes, I don't have an exact number, but it's a little number because, you know, when the guy, all the time, you say the message, they want to talk with me.
01:45:16.000All right, ladies, let's be honest here.
01:45:17.000If most men walked up to you and said, listen, I just want to have sex and not have anything of real consequence, would you give that guy the sex?
01:45:26.000Okay, so why do you expect men to be honest with you if they're not going to get what they want?
01:45:30.000I wouldn't say that that's a necessary no.
01:45:33.000If you come up to me and you're like, I want something casual, like you want to just have sex, I don't want anything else, and I'm down for that, then I'm down for that.
01:45:41.000Realistically speaking, when are you going to be down for that?
01:45:46.000If I'm single and I don't want a relationship.
01:45:48.000Most women are not going to be down for that most of the time.
01:45:51.000What you're talking about is one short, obscure time, maybe catch you on the right day, at the right time, when you're in heat, at the right vibe, at the right bar, whatever.
01:46:01.000But realistically speaking, 95% of the time when men, be honest with it like that, are you going to fuck them?
01:46:37.000A lot of times, guys, I would argue, like, guys take L's most of the time when they take girls on dates because they don't close.
01:46:43.000And if you don't close, then it's a L because you wasted your time and your money hanging out with a girl because most girls expect you to pay for dates.
01:46:49.000Are there girls that will be like, oh, let's go 50-50?
01:48:26.000So it is a two-part process, but I would say the guy has to say, you know what?
01:48:30.000If I want this, I'm not going to allow it.
01:48:33.000But women, they offer hope that it may happen at some point, and then the guy stays.
01:48:38.000That's the only part where my sisters in the world of Manosphere stuff is that's the only thing that has put me on this side more than the other side is the fact that as a woman, I know how women are.
01:51:25.000He's not doing all these meticulous things that I'm paying attention to because I'm sober and I'm not drinking on the date and I'm not ordering expensive meals either to be considerate of him.
01:51:34.000I have to see what he's bringing to the table.
01:52:16.000I mean, I think you've definitely, like, I get it that you're trying to, you know, no, I don't use guys or whatever, but you've definitely fucked a couple bad boys in your time, bro.
01:55:04.000A girl that's a 5 can get attention from a dude that's like a 10 across the country.
01:55:08.000Well, that's going to inflate her ego, inflate her sense of self-worth, and she's going to behave that way, and she's going to think, I deserve better.
01:55:14.000Because since women date up, the grassroots grin on the other side for them.
01:55:59.000I actually have a friend and he's like a hospital manager and he makes money and he said he wouldn't care if a girl makes like 20k and she's just happy with him.
01:56:08.000He dated someone who made just as much money and she just like that entitlement, that kind of like masculinity, I guess you could say, he wasn't going to put up with it.
01:56:49.000Not owned her shit, but like if he would go to his girlfriend, like talk about the stresses at work instead of being supportive or like listening to him.
01:58:14.000So yeah, I guess the thing is, yeah, girls will waste your time if you don't properly vet them and get rid of them if they're wasting your time.
01:58:21.000Because I mean, there should never be a situation where...
01:58:36.000And you're able to add some kind of value that she's like, okay, I'll go out with this guy because he gets me into clubs.
01:58:41.000Like, women are very good at picking out, like, what the guy offers in value and then, like...
01:58:46.000I'm segregating him to that value only.
01:58:48.000Okay, this guy gets me in clubs, so I'm going to dangle the carrot a little bit so he can get me in clubs.
01:58:52.000This guy pays for really fancy steak dinners that I could take pictures of this nice steak spot.
01:58:56.000I'm going to put him in that little thing.
01:58:58.000Women compartmentalize men into situations that benefit them.
01:59:01.000And I think as a guy, it's your job to identify, hmm, am I being compartmentalized?
01:59:05.000Okay, I'm going to get rid of this girl, because if you're not getting her best, then you've got to throw her to the rest.
01:59:11.000Because women are very evil individuals when they put you in a compartmentalized situation, because they're getting what they want from you, but you're not getting anything in return.
01:59:19.000And then they have the audacity to think, well, you're being around me, as if they're special.
01:59:23.000Or they bring something to the table, and I'll be honest with you.
01:59:28.000If I'm going to be all the way a million, like a lot of y'all are dumb as fuck.
01:59:31.000And what I mean by this is, I don't mean dumb as fuck as in social awareness.
01:59:36.000Women are way smarter than men when it comes to social awareness.
01:59:38.000But when it comes to like having real conversations about real things, about having an intellectual conversation where you're actually able to derive value in conversing with women, what I've realized is typically the more attractive she is, the stupider she is, unfortunately.
02:01:33.000And it's up to the woman to figure out where that guy stands in the pecking order and act accordingly.
02:01:38.000Because you might not have the ability or the leverage to play your games with a certain level of guy where you could have played those games with another individual.
02:01:45.000So do you think if a woman sleeps with a man too early, do you think that's a turnoff for men?
02:02:04.000Girls go in, they go on a date, or they fuck him, or whatever it is, and they don't add no value.
02:02:09.000They think, I'm pretty, I'm just going to show up, sit on a date, be boring as fuck, be stupid as fuck, not add to the conversation, and...
02:04:18.000And also, how would that be misled if my ability to, my potential, my earning potential, my resource potential is such a short time period?
02:04:26.000Then why would I invest all of my time and energy into being valuable for only that short amount of time when I could take that energy and invest it into being confident and a long-term earner for myself?
02:08:18.000Because I literally asked you, if given the option and your preferences, you still wanted a man from a hardwiring, primal perspective to be better than you in every regard, despite the fact that you have security, lighting, power, everything, all the modern conveniences where you effectively do not need a man.
02:08:35.000If given to your own devices, what do you do?
02:10:55.000That your attraction triggers are primal.
02:10:58.000You want a man that's better than you, despite the fact that you have all the security, all the ability to fend for yourself, etc., but you still want a man better than you.
02:15:40.000No, it's creating excess resources, being strong, being a leader of men, being dominant, being aggressive, being able to protect yet still provide.
02:15:49.000Being able to procreate for a man, you need to have a bunch of things in place, correct?
02:15:54.000I know a lot of baby daddies who have none of that in place.
02:16:02.000For the optimal situation, he needs to have a good place to get the best woman for him.
02:16:11.000You do realize, right, that we live in the United States, right?
02:17:53.000Once again, just because contraception exists now does not mean that you're not hardwired to look for certain things in the opposite gender.
02:18:03.000Contraception is a relatively new thing.
02:18:06.000But before, women had to be more selective.
02:18:08.000Well, even now, women are still fairly selective on who they have sex with because being pregnant is an invasive thing that's very laborious for a woman.
02:18:17.000The mating process for a woman has more risks than for a man.
02:18:20.000Yeah, but some people stand to gain financially from having children, especially women.
02:18:43.000What you've done, basically, is you say, oh, well, let me deflect the argument on something that is a minority, an exception to the rule, or I've experienced myself.
02:19:35.000I'm saying, as someone who's a minority, would you stand here quietly while somebody made incredibly generalized statements and that did not include you?
02:19:56.000If you don't understand that the world operates on generalities, Then we can't even have a discussion because you're too low IQ to understand how the world really works.
02:22:28.000If I'm a guy, and I'm attractive to a degree, I'm handsome, right, and I prioritize that, that's cool, but is it going to increase my chances of procreating at the same level as if I chase resources?
02:22:38.000No, it won't, because women don't value beauty as much as men value beauty in women.
02:23:45.000Anyway, so going back to what I was saying, right?
02:23:51.000Besides, we're trying to shame because women will gladly date a man that's 20 years older than them and not bad at night.
02:23:55.000But then if I say, okay, I'll date a girl that's 15 years younger than me, that's the problem.
02:23:58.000Anyway, going back to what I was saying.
02:24:00.000So, So women have a finite amount of time to find a mate when they're at their peak.
02:24:06.000So what I argue is that chasing resources as a female is counterproductive to being able to find a man because you make more money, you get more status, and then you ostracize yourself from the very men, right, that you think that you qualify for because they don't give a fuck about your status or your money.
02:24:21.000I don't need a man to procreate, number one.
02:24:23.000I can create my own resources and never get there.
02:24:26.000You absolutely do need a man to procreate.
02:25:09.000And if they have to get a career to do it, they'll do it to a degree.
02:25:12.000But at the end of the day, we've proven that already.
02:25:13.000Women will leave the workforce if the man is right.
02:25:15.000So is it really in a woman's best interest to chase a career and status when the bottom line is to procreate with the highest status man that you can get?
02:37:01.000But we create it in our head saying it's real, which I think is a great thing because for women, they don't have anything to keep them accountable.
02:37:06.000So karma at least can do that for her.
02:37:08.000And that's why I play out the tape, because I'm like, okay, hypothetically, who told them?
02:37:53.000And if she's not like that in her sleep, like, figure it out.
02:37:57.000I usually, like, I like to believe action, so if he's gonna leave me, like, if he's gonna leave the girl for me, I'm not gonna not think he's not gonna do that to me.
02:41:53.000three four girls oh yeah it's okay he for the streets the girls doesn't matter about that was that you have three girls i mean maybe but if the girls doesn't matter about that i'm honest about it i'm not gonna have one girlfriend oh but the girls will stay together for you you know it's okay don't care yeah i'm not gonna have one girl No,
02:44:04.000I think game for me just means that I understand what I want in a scenario and I'm able to say, okay, I know what she wants as well and I can bring both to the table and make a connection there.
02:44:17.000I don't think that's what game means to everybody.
02:44:19.000No, I mean, it's like interpret game because, for example, game can mean either some tactics to get what you want or, for example, building a connection.
02:44:27.000But I think for me, that's what that means.
02:44:38.000You guys were talking about earlier, if you're assessing a woman that can bring value to a relationship or be valuable and significant enough for a long-term relationship, what kind of value are guys looking for?
02:45:41.000And the thing that is the worst is the more attractive they are, the less they typically tend to bring is because they feel as though their presence is more important.
02:45:50.000And that stems from women having an over-inflated sense of self-worth thanks to the internet.
02:45:57.000And it's not until maybe they meet a guy like me and tells them you're not special or another guy that doesn't tolerate female fuckery and they'll tell them what it really is, then they kind of come to reality.
02:46:07.000And the thing is that women are attracted to men that don't treat them like equals.
02:46:11.000Women are attracted to men that don't treat them like equals.
02:47:38.000And that's the thing where I tell guys, I'm like, you have to take a look for women that are entitled because, like you said, we have been told you deserve everything.
02:47:53.000My issue, okay, let me put it this way.
02:47:55.000I don't see the things that men are going through and I see how women are reacting to it.
02:48:01.000When we had the women's suffrage movement, the only reason that that was even viable was because we had the men's support, right?
02:48:07.000Now we have the men having issues and the women go brouhaha.
02:48:11.000And it's not just you guys, and it's not just the podcasting starting.
02:48:15.000The Manosphere stuff, it started way back when, and the foundation was for men to help other men that didn't have fathers in the household.
02:48:23.000So they didn't know how to change attire.
02:48:24.000They didn't know how to do their taxes.
02:48:26.000They didn't know how to do a lot of things.
02:48:28.000And so these men would mentor them, and that's where the Manosphere came from.
02:48:31.000Then it came from Midtown, men going their own way.
02:48:34.000They literally said, I've had it with women and they're all delusional.
02:48:42.000Then we went into the court systems and we had red pill break off on Midtown.
02:48:46.000Then we had black pill break off on red pill.
02:48:50.000It's the foundation of it was because men are still unaliving themselves.
02:48:54.000And like the only issue I have with any podcast like this, and I have a question for you guys because of this, because I also have studied people.
02:49:02.000I study you guys, Andrew Tate, all these guys.
02:49:04.000And you guys and Andrew Tate are the only...
02:49:10.000But you guys are the only ones that I follow because when I look at when you started, I look at the history.
02:49:14.000I know some people you used to F with that you don't anymore for good reason.
02:49:18.000And I can see that where your standpoint is, the chat and everything, your target demographic is the young men with no fathers in the household.
02:49:25.000You're trying to put them on game, right?
02:49:28.000I mean, I don't think it necessarily is the father.
02:49:31.000Because the thing is, there's a bunch of guys that have fathers in the household, but Yeah, but they weren't good dads.
02:49:56.000I don't even think y'all should be in this space.
02:49:57.000I think most women that are in the red pillar...
02:50:00.000You want to have a discussion with a panel full of women, but when a woman comes in here and actually knows the history and has the talking points, you don't want to have a discussion.
02:50:09.000The Manosphere itself was created to help men become men in ways that they weren't able to, which did include dating, but it wasn't the foundation.
02:50:16.000What was the format at the very beginning?
02:50:53.000And then that's when they broke off, and they started having different meetings in person in different segments, and then they went online.
02:51:17.000But you guys, you, I just, the whole reason I'm saying this isn't to argue with you guys.
02:51:21.000It's, If the women's suffrage moved because of men's support, the things that men are dealing with, like the paternity test, the court system, all of these things could move faster with more women's support.
02:51:50.000I'm trying to be able to be a thing to talk to my sister so that they can understand.
02:51:55.000Because the way that we talk in the manosphere of, like, you're stupid and you're dumb because you don't know the talking points, I'm trying to communicate it to the women in the language that women understand that men don't understand.
02:52:04.000And I'm simply asking, I'm pleading with you guys to help me understand.
02:52:09.000And instead, it's like, you shouldn't even be here.
02:53:30.000But what she's saying is I want to help my girls understand and what I'm arguing is that women don't give a fuck and they're not going to understand because they don't care.
02:54:52.000Bro, legit, our plights as men, like, no offense, women don't understand.
02:54:57.000However, it's cute that you can recite what we say online, but...
02:55:00.000Yeah, I mean, the whole purpose of the pod is to talk, have these discussions, and just kind of reveal in 4K, feel like they really don't give a fuck.
02:55:07.000Like, that chick don't give a fuck, bro.
02:55:09.000She came here for clicks and clout, bro.
02:55:11.000That's what she even said earlier in the show.
02:58:06.000After being here, like, more than a couple times, I used to be kind of hard-headed like that, like, wanting to be a boss bitch or whatever.
02:58:15.000But then I've met people, like, also, I live alone.
02:58:51.000Yeah, it's just like you should listen to that and use it to your, not to your advantage, but like how to guide life if you know what your role is.
02:59:42.000You'll get some girls that come in and they'll want to argue to argue.
02:59:46.000You guys got to also remember too, I think for the girls it's an opportunity because they're like, oh shit, I can debate and argue with a guy because let's keep it a thousand.
03:00:36.000Like, bro, I mean, number one, I wouldn't want my girl coming apart, but let's say my fiance did come out of part, and she said some dumb shit like, oh, yeah, I made him wait the longest a month and two weeks, and she couldn't answer simple questions, acted all crazy as shit, nigga.