Fresh & Fit - May 24, 2026


Rollo and Fresh debate body count


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00:00:00.000 Especially on camera, they'll say the opposite just because it sounds good.
00:00:02.000 It's crazy too because, like, all of us have been on Fresh and Fit and seen after hours, and dude, it's night and day.
00:00:09.000 Like, and it's so crazy too because before they go on after hours, they're so calm.
00:00:13.000 I've literally never seen a fight before.
00:00:13.000 Everything's cool.
00:00:15.000 Like, before they get on after hours, they get on after hours, they act out, and then they start acting right again.
00:00:21.000 It's crazy.
00:00:23.000 You know, obviously, some people just, you know, they're trying to like show off with the camera, of course, right?
00:00:27.000 I have.
00:00:27.000 Oh, yeah.
00:00:28.000 There's also the white claw effect.
00:00:29.000 Yeah.
00:00:30.000 Some of the vodka.
00:00:32.000 You got to take that into account.
00:00:34.000 Some of the girls who have disagreed with me the most strenuously on Access Vegas have then later asked me, When are you going to take me out?
00:00:43.000 I've had that happen before, too.
00:00:46.000 Knowing I have a girlfriend, they still ask me that.
00:00:49.000 So, yeah, of course, that is the case.
00:00:50.000 And again, like, I just, it's so maddening to me.
00:00:54.000 It's like, why we should all be agreeing.
00:00:56.000 I don't know why we're all disagreeing.
00:00:58.000 I think the reason why we're disagreeing is because of the words that the most extreme people in this space use, whether it's, you know, Andrew or HS Tiki Taki or whatever.
00:01:07.000 We don't use those.
00:01:07.000 When you use those words, the problem is about a third of the population just shut off.
00:01:11.000 They don't want to hear what you have to say anymore.
00:01:12.000 And so there's a way to do this without using the same, without using the words, even though the audience resonates with the words, right?
00:01:20.000 I just think there's a way to do it. 0.99
00:01:21.000 And the other thing is what we need to understand is I subscribe to the Wiz Khalifa Juicy J school of thought here, which is these hoes, they're for everybody. 1.00
00:01:31.000 You pass them around, they're at every party. 1.00
00:01:32.000 They ain't going to be loyal, not to anybody, but I still love these hoes. 1.00
00:01:38.000 I don't want to marry them. 1.00
00:01:39.000 I don't want to marry them.
00:01:41.000 We all know girls we've had great, incredible times with.
00:01:45.000 We just don't want to marry them.
00:01:46.000 They're full of red flags and they're fun.
00:01:49.000 They're fun to go to EDC with.
00:01:50.000 They're fun to go to a party with.
00:01:52.000 They're fun for you and your girl to take home and have fun with.
00:01:54.000 They're fun for that.
00:01:55.000 That's what they're for.
00:01:56.000 We don't hate them.
00:01:57.000 I don't hate them, but I also know I don't want to be in a relationship with them.
00:02:00.000 And that's the whole thing.
00:02:01.000 And because they don't understand that, and then they hook up with a guy that maybe not me, but some other guy they see as super high status because of the money he makes or how good looking he is or how charismatic or how much clout he has.
00:02:13.000 And they think, well, in their estimation, this guy's a nine, so I can get a nine to settle down with me.
00:02:18.000 No, honey, you had a threesome with me and my girlfriend.
00:02:20.000 That doesn't mean we're settling down with you.
00:02:22.000 You're confused about what's going on.
00:02:24.000 And so I love the term 49ers.
00:02:26.000 For now on, we're just going to. 1.00
00:02:27.000 Instead of 304s. 0.99
00:02:29.000 Shut up my wages. 0.94
00:02:30.000 Instead of 304s, they're 49ers. 0.97
00:02:32.000 Fours who think they're nines. 0.86
00:02:33.000 And that's where we are. 0.51
00:02:34.000 And by the way, there are men who are like this too.
00:02:36.000 The difference for men, though, is we're a four and we think we're a nine.
00:02:39.000 When we message Megan Fox, she doesn't message us back.
00:02:42.000 But if you're a woman who's a four and you edit your photos and you message Michael B. Jordan, He will message you back. 0.52
00:02:47.000 Tyga will message you back, right? 0.96
00:02:49.000 These guys will message you back, right?
00:02:51.000 Michael B Smash, Smash, Smash.
00:02:53.000 They will message you back.
00:02:55.000 So, their fantasy, it goes all the way up to the guy's bedroom.
00:02:58.000 Whereas our fantasy, it stops, right?
00:03:00.000 We're in the request folder in the DMs.
00:03:02.000 And that's the difference.
00:03:03.000 So, we as men, we are always like I'm a nine until I walk into Powerhouse in the morning.
00:03:10.000 Yeah, you walk in there, like as men, because we're competing all the time, I understand, like, I think I'm a pretty interesting guy online.
00:03:18.000 And then I watch.
00:03:19.000 Some of these other guys, like they're way more interesting than me.
00:03:21.000 I understand as a man, I'm constantly being beaten down by the fact that other guys are stronger than me, richer than me, more popular than me, etc.
00:03:27.000 So I kind of know where my value is.
00:03:30.000 I know how much I have to offer.
00:03:31.000 I know the unique things I can offer, but I'm always aware of it.
00:03:34.000 If I'm a woman and I can just edit my photos and have men out of my league have sex with me, then I, nobody clip that, please. 0.99
00:03:41.000 I can have them have sex with me. 0.99
00:03:43.000 Then, then I might believe that I'm somewhere that I'm not. 0.98
00:03:46.000 And because I'm so, because as men, we have to, we create, we understand our value based on.
00:03:53.000 The supply and demand curve that exists around us all the time.
00:03:56.000 For women, their value is something that they give themselves based on how they feel in the moment.
00:04:00.000 What are you going to do about it? 1.00
00:04:02.000 I'll suck his dick. 1.00
00:04:03.000 Exactly. 1.00
00:04:04.000 Is that your soundbite?
00:04:05.000 That's hilarious.
00:04:05.000 Yes.
00:04:05.000 You need that, don't you?
00:04:07.000 Yeah, but just real quick.
00:04:09.000 I just find it hilarious, right?
00:04:10.000 Because you brought up some very good points to start in. 0.87
00:04:13.000 And it's funny, all of our detractors who are talking shit about us for years are doing what we're doing exactly. 0.70
00:04:18.000 Yeah. 0.91
00:04:19.000 Yeah.
00:04:20.000 Yes.
00:04:20.000 Full print.
00:04:21.000 Full print.
00:04:22.000 Just to bring it up once again, the port and preach.
00:04:26.000 And also abort and preach.
00:04:28.000 It's because.
00:04:29.000 They will say we're always focused on, you know, the red pill, the truth.
00:04:34.000 It's too hard and it's not a good message.
00:04:37.000 Yeah.
00:04:37.000 In the same token, they're doing on a high level what we're seeing because it works.
00:04:44.000 Yeah.
00:04:44.000 If it didn't work, you wouldn't do it.
00:04:46.000 Are we talking about the content or the gaslighting of all the women he got pregnant? 1.00
00:04:50.000 They're doing sneaky fucker game. 0.99
00:04:51.000 That's what they're doing. 0.99
00:04:51.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:04:51.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:04:52.000 Well, the thing that gets me is like, I mean, I'm not going to name names because everybody's going to know who I'm talking about anyways, but I hate it when I see another guy talking about how. 0.60
00:05:01.000 Write another article or does another fucking video about how they're leaving the manosphere. 0.98
00:05:04.000 No, you're fucking not leaving the manosphere. 0.99
00:05:06.000 You're not. 0.99
00:05:07.000 You are never.
00:05:08.000 I'm sorry, you are not leaving the manosphere. 0.99
00:05:10.000 I'll see these other articles about these guys who are like, I was part of the red pill community and it was like a cult and now I had intervention and now I'm out and I'm away from it. 0.89
00:05:19.000 I'm no longer red pill anymore.
00:05:21.000 Like, dude, you're still red pill.
00:05:23.000 You still are aware of the things that people talk to you about.
00:05:26.000 And I put it that I wrote an essay about it.
00:05:29.000 I said, once you put the glasses on, they do not.
00:05:32.000 Come off. 1.00
00:05:33.000 So you can stick your head up your ass and you can put your head in the sand, whatever it is. 1.00
00:05:37.000 But at some point, you're going to, there's your niece or your aunt or somebody, they're going to be in some sort of relationship. 0.99
00:05:43.000 And you go, oh, that's what those guys talked about that time.
00:05:45.000 You're going to see the code in the matrix.
00:05:47.000 Something's going to happen in popular culture, or you're going to be scrolling on your social media and you're going to see some story that relates to something that you understood a little bit better because you're a red pill aware as a result of that.
00:06:00.000 You can go and make all these great articles about how, what is it?
00:06:05.000 The latest trend is this.
00:06:07.000 It is these, what is it? 0.99
00:06:11.000 Was it Jim Sex? 0.99
00:06:12.000 I think it was Jim Sexon was talking about this. 0.87
00:06:14.000 The rise in divorces of red pill men because these husbands become red pill all of a sudden and they divorce their wives because they won't cook and clean.
00:06:25.000 It's this. 0.51
00:06:25.000 They call it our birth control. 0.51
00:06:26.000 No, no, no. 1.00
00:06:27.000 It's the women exaggerating. 0.99
00:06:29.000 No, no, no. 1.00
00:06:29.000 It's women leaving red pill guys. 1.00
00:06:32.000 Men, guys. 0.93
00:06:32.000 And I'm like, wait, you mean women, the gender that causes. 0.93
00:06:36.000 80% of the divorces already? 0.99
00:06:38.000 80%, yeah.
00:06:39.000 Yeah, like, no, no, what you're doing is the way that they write this, though, is that it's like, well, he suddenly expected her to cook and clean, just like Andrew Tate tells women to do.
00:06:50.000 It's like this over the top.
00:06:51.000 You could tell because it's this rhetoric that is like boosted to this absurd extreme.
00:06:56.000 And it's like, first of all, who is saying this?
00:06:59.000 And you don't even need to ask that question because all they're doing, again, the gentlemanosphere, this anti manosphere, anti red pill.
00:07:07.000 You can build brands on it right now, essentially.
00:07:09.000 And all they're doing, all you got to do is just exactly what you were saying before.
00:07:12.000 So all you got to do is just amplify that signal.
00:07:15.000 And it doesn't matter what the content is, as long as it is in a nice, easy to digest package as you're running through the drive through lane at Jack in the Box and they throw it in your mouth and you're on to the next kind of thing.
00:07:28.000 Listen, the algorithm is changing for good.
00:07:30.000 The old ways of making content, how it's distributed, are changing for good.
00:07:34.000 Now, if you're smart, and this is what people do.
00:07:36.000 They say, okay, if I make content about XYZ, aka the red pill, in a negative light, I get pushed or an algo.
00:07:43.000 And remember, they're using now AI to push content as they see fit.
00:07:47.000 Now, listen, if I'm a platform, right, with power and control and AI algorithm that does what I say, I'm going to make sure to put out for my sponsors X out Red Bill.
00:07:57.000 Keep them where they're at.
00:07:58.000 Don't push them.
00:07:59.000 I'm going to X out politics.
00:08:02.000 It's divisive.
00:08:03.000 Not good for our sponsors. 1.00
00:08:04.000 I'm going to X out hanging on to Jews. 1.00
00:08:06.000 It is what it is. 1.00
00:08:07.000 Back for business.
00:08:08.000 X it out.
00:08:08.000 Now, couple that into major, like YouTube, for example.
00:08:13.000 What has it done for all of us?
00:08:15.000 It's stifled our growth because it doesn't help the sponsors.
00:08:18.000 Get what they want in terms of getting sponsorship.
00:08:21.000 So, my point is basically in a nutshell, these people that are pushing this agenda against Red Pill, they're getting paid to do it.
00:08:26.000 That's why they're doing it.
00:08:27.000 And they're being rewarded because they get algo push, new fans, payment.
00:08:32.000 But they know deep down that it's the truth because if they didn't know, they would do it by closed doors.
00:08:37.000 So, that's all I'm saying, bro.
00:08:39.000 Yeah, no, you are correct about the algorithm push. 0.90
00:08:41.000 The algorithm, because a little bit less on YouTube, but way more on Instagram and TikTok, because the majority of the purchases on those platforms are by women and saying things that women don't like to hear.
00:08:53.000 Like, again, you guys understand, any one of us right now could say something that is objectively incorrect, which is we could talk about astrology, whatever, flat earth, and we would grow faster than we would as a red pill content creator.
00:09:04.000 As a red pill content creator, you're going to be demonetized, deplatformed, and ratioed.
00:09:08.000 And you could only, all you could do is bring up peer reviewed data, and that's still going to happen to you.
00:09:13.000 But if you sit there and you make content about astrology that is like categorically not real, then what happens is you are going to grow faster than you will.
00:09:22.000 What am I in trouble now?
00:09:23.000 You're going to grow faster than you will making content about evolutionary psychology.
00:09:26.000 It's just the truth.
00:09:28.000 So, the reason why is because astrology makes women feel good and evolutionary psychology does not make women feel good.
00:09:35.000 I thought you were going to talk about astral projection and the void of divine feminine.
00:09:41.000 Again, there's no way in a rational society that Logan Paul and Joe Dispenza have more followers than Alex Hermosi or Andrew Huberman.
00:09:50.000 There's no way in a rational world that Alex Hermosi and Andrew Huberman help more people.
00:09:54.000 It's not even close than.
00:09:56.000 But, Sartine, to your point, Pumpkins prefer not entertainment than value. 0.90
00:10:01.000 It's entertainment.
00:10:01.000 No, no, for sure.
00:10:03.000 This is what you're going to my point.
00:10:05.000 What they do is more entertaining.
00:10:06.000 What I'm saying is, we don't have a society where you get the most views and likes because you help the most people.
00:10:13.000 Otherwise, Andrew Schumerman would be the number one podcast because of the top 10, he helps more people than anyone else.
00:10:19.000 More plates, more dates.
00:10:20.000 Yeah, more plates, more dates.
00:10:21.000 Whatever.
00:10:22.000 My point is, what happens though, instead, is we get entertained listening to Logan Paul talk to Clavicular, which was an interesting conversation.
00:10:30.000 To listen to.
00:10:31.000 I'm not trying to hate on Logan Paul.
00:10:32.000 What I'm saying is, if we were doing this based solely on the merit of using this telecommunication in order to help the most people, then the different people would be.
00:10:42.000 Brittany Renner would not have a following.
00:10:45.000 But Brittany Renner would not have a following the size of Alex Ramosi.
00:10:47.000 But Alex Ramosi, Brad Lee, and Andrew Huberman, who actually do help people, those people have big followings, but not as big as these other content creators that just spew nonsense.
00:11:00.000 Graham Hancock would not.
00:11:01.000 Would legitimately not even be on the internet.
00:11:03.000 Like that, that's what would happen.
00:11:04.000 But we still allow this.
00:11:05.000 And same thing, you know.
00:11:06.000 So that's what I'm saying the entertainment factor matters so much.
00:11:10.000 And so what happens is it doesn't matter if it's true as long as it's entertaining.
00:11:13.000 You saw after Artemis landed all the, well, this is all fake and the moon landings were fake.
00:11:17.000 I'm like, okay, maybe you think it was fake, but you don't have more evidence that it's fake.
00:11:21.000 You have less evidence that it's fake.
00:11:23.000 And now you're going more viral because you're saying this.
00:11:25.000 And I have a Maverick approaching who wants to debate me about whether or not the moon landing was fake.
00:11:29.000 It's fine.
00:11:30.000 It's fine.
00:11:31.000 You can get humiliated just like everyone else.
00:11:33.000 You'll take the content, though.
00:11:34.000 It's off the Maverick.
00:11:35.000 Yeah, I mean, he's like, I think he makes entertaining content. 0.99
00:11:38.000 He's going to get humiliated if he actually is dumb enough to debate me. 0.98
00:11:41.000 But that's the whole thing. 0.98
00:11:42.000 It's like it doesn't make any difference because at the end, he'll still have 10 times as many followers as I do.
00:11:47.000 Well, it's like I remember when Gary the numbers guy told me that the in 2023 that the Vegas Golden Knights would not win the Stanley Cup.
00:11:55.000 And I remember distinctly remember on the last game, he was like texting me. 0.99
00:11:59.000 He's going, dude, give me a lot of shit on Twitter. 0.97
00:12:04.000 I said, you can send that money to the Greyhound. 1.00
00:12:07.000 Gary will trash you online and then take you to dinner afterwards.
00:12:09.000 Oh, it's great too.
00:12:11.000 Cause like it's back when Aiden Hill, well, he'll maybe when he's wrong, Aiden Hill was the goalie back then.
00:12:15.000 He was playing on the thing.
00:12:16.000 Well, you know why you lost because Aiden Hill's number is 33.
00:12:18.000 Shout out to all my 33s, baby.
00:12:22.000 Oh, my God.
00:12:23.000 That was funny.
00:12:24.000 You know what I wanted to say to you earlier when you were talking about the whole red pill thing?
00:12:27.000 I was like, why do my eyes hurt, Rollo?
00:12:29.000 Because you've never used them before.
00:12:32.000 Once you put those shades on, you can never take them off.
00:12:36.000 Every once in a while, I have to go back and watch that movie just to remind myself of the lines and stuff like that. 0.98
00:12:40.000 I've had a bitch out so many times. 0.99
00:12:42.000 And I'm going to tell you right now because people in the fucking comments are going to say this right now. 1.00
00:12:45.000 I don't give a fucking fuck what the Wachowski brothers were now. 1.00
00:12:48.000 The Wachowski sisters. 1.00
00:12:49.000 Okay. 0.99
00:12:49.000 The writing at that time and what they were doing at that time was absolute fucking genius. 0.99
00:12:54.000 Okay. 0.98
00:12:54.000 I mean, it was genius. 0.98
00:12:56.000 It's a messianic story.
00:12:57.000 It's a correlation.
00:12:59.000 But it's also like Descartes.
00:13:02.000 I guess I think, therefore, I am.
00:13:03.000 It's like it's still consciousness.
00:13:04.000 It's still existence and stuff like that.
00:13:06.000 There's so many themes that are in that. 0.71
00:13:08.000 And every now and then I'll come back to one of the things I was just talking about recently is like, you know how like everybody gives, for whatever reason, everybody wants to give me shit that I still use the name Rollo Tomasia and not my real name. 0.73
00:13:20.000 Yeah. 0.88
00:13:20.000 Right. 0.88
00:13:21.000 And there's, there's a, There's a scene in the Matrix where the, and I didn't notice this until I watched this recently, but the Smith unit, the Agent Smith, right?
00:13:32.000 He only refers to Neo as Mr. Anderson.
00:13:36.000 And I was, because even when he's like talking to him, he's giving those monologues and everything, he's always referring to him as Mr. Anderson.
00:13:41.000 And there's that one point where he's almost going to die and he jumps out of the way of the oncoming like subway train.
00:13:47.000 He says, My name is Neo. 0.90
00:13:49.000 Like, because that's his name where he chose for himself to be like, because people will give me shit all the time about like, Oh, his real name is not that. 0.96
00:13:58.000 Or else, fresh. 0.98
00:13:58.000 It's blah, blah, blah. 0.98
00:14:00.000 We know what your real name is.
00:14:01.000 Myron Gaines is not really Myron Gaines.
00:14:04.000 Okay.
00:14:05.000 Ryan Stone is a different name.
00:14:06.000 It's not his real name.
00:14:08.000 Clavicular, I'm pretty sure that's not his real name. 0.99
00:14:11.000 Why aren't you giving this motherfucker grief? 0.99
00:14:14.000 Right. 0.99
00:14:15.000 The reason is because they want to take that and they want you to accept their identity.
00:14:21.000 They want you to think that they can still define who you are.
00:14:25.000 And that's the problem that they have.
00:14:26.000 If I don't dress in a certain way, if I don't act in a certain way, if I don't deliver my material in a certain way, if I don't fit into this idea of what they think I ought to be at that time, I've used the name really since the late 90s.
00:14:44.000 But the thing is, it's trying to deny you an identity that you create for yourself.
00:14:52.000 Fresh Print CEO is an identity, it's the persona that you.
00:14:57.000 I know who you are, man.
00:14:58.000 I mean, we've gone out to dinner with my wife.
00:15:00.000 For, right?
00:15:01.000 I know what your dog is, right?
00:15:02.000 I know what you're about, right?
00:15:04.000 But in the same sense, it's like, I think it's kind of cool, at least to some degree, that people can still define who they want to be.
00:15:11.000 Like, Mike uses his real name, but I know what his persona is.
00:15:14.000 And I know Mike off camera too, right?
00:15:18.000 And I think that when you get to a certain point, people really want to try to take that away from your identity.
00:15:25.000 They literally want to take that identity away from you because they're powerless in any other respect.
00:15:32.000 That's a very good point.
00:15:33.000 Yeah.
00:15:34.000 Miguel, what's your name?
00:15:35.000 Your pseudonym?
00:15:37.000 Dollar Cost Crypto DCC.
00:15:40.000 It used to be Hex Jesus.
00:15:41.000 Hex Jesus, man.
00:15:42.000 I'm a man of many names, Dogecoin Muhammad.
00:15:46.000 That's funny.
00:15:47.000 Yeah.
00:15:48.000 You got any chats here?
00:15:49.000 No, I've been just kind of throwing them on and off as we go.
00:15:52.000 You know, anybody wants a question, you feel free to throw them out there.
00:15:55.000 So I didn't get to ask it to my question, though. 1.00
00:15:57.000 I asked you earlier if you were a woman for a day, you had a soon to be husbandslash husband, you went to a podcast where you might have fucked one of the hosts. 0.98
00:16:10.000 Would you tell your husband there before or after? 0.99
00:16:14.000 I think most women wouldn't say anything. 0.99
00:16:16.000 No, no. 1.00
00:16:16.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:16:16.000 Do you want to know why I know this? 1.00
00:16:18.000 No, no.
00:16:18.000 God, this is so bad.
00:16:19.000 I can't believe I'm saying this.
00:16:20.000 This roller roll.
00:16:21.000 Hold on, hold on, roller.
00:16:22.000 How many times, God, I hate to say this.
00:16:25.000 I'm not going to say anyone's name, but a girl's come on our show that I've had Bible study with.
00:16:31.000 This a lot of times has happened.
00:16:31.000 Okay.
00:16:33.000 And I don't expect their boyfriend to tell their boyfriends.
00:16:36.000 Maybe it's the moral thing to do, but it happens all the time where girls, yeah, like, okay, ideally though, if you were the guy, would you want to know?
00:16:47.000 Like, for example, you walk into the room, you have no idea that, I don't know, Miguel was the one that was plowing your wife a couple weeks ago or months ago, whatever.
00:16:57.000 I don't know how to answer this.
00:16:59.000 I would and I wouldn't at the same time.
00:17:01.000 I would not and I would at the same time.
00:17:02.000 No, no, you got to choose one. 1.00
00:17:04.000 Fuck it. 1.00
00:17:05.000 I think it's hard. 1.00
00:17:05.000 Most guys would want to know. 1.00
00:17:06.000 Hold on.
00:17:06.000 It's hard.
00:17:07.000 Yeah, I guess I'd want to know.
00:17:07.000 Yeah.
00:17:07.000 But it's this.
00:17:08.000 I would want to know, but maybe not during the podcast.
00:17:13.000 Maybe like a little later.
00:17:14.000 Before or after.
00:17:15.000 Before or after.
00:17:16.000 Would you want to know?
00:17:18.000 So.
00:17:18.000 Absolutely.
00:17:20.000 Nigga, I wanna know. 1.00
00:17:21.000 And that's why body count, right? 1.00
00:17:23.000 It's so important.
00:17:25.000 Because, though, in Miami, it's a hyper-inflated marketplace.
00:17:28.000 We have many beautiful women and pause, good-looking dudes.
00:17:33.000 Pause again.
00:17:34.000 And it's because when I'm with a chick, right? 1.00
00:17:36.000 That's why they have foreign girls only. 0.99
00:17:38.000 Because at least I know the foreign girl, for the most part, has a lot of friends. 1.00
00:17:41.000 Smash your friends. 1.00
00:17:42.000 Yeah, your friends have been passed around my ass. 1.00
00:17:44.000 The worst thing you can do is the Miami thing is to walk into a room with a girl that your friends smash and you don't know. 1.00
00:17:48.000 Yeah, the last.
00:17:48.000 Because now you look, bro, I don't care if you're a top dog, you're an alpha male, whatever you wanna call yourself.
00:17:53.000 You look crazy. 0.99
00:17:55.000 Now, mind you, this happens all the time. 0.98
00:17:57.000 I'll be in a spot with my boys. 0.95
00:18:00.000 I'm like, damn, I was over here last week, but he doesn't know. 0.97
00:18:04.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:18:04.000 But he doesn't know. 0.99
00:18:05.000 Yes, all the time.
00:18:06.000 And that to me is worse than, dude, that's like getting cucked. 0.84
00:18:09.000 You don't even know you're being cucked.
00:18:10.000 It's like you saying, like, oh, this girl's been on a yacht last week. 1.00
00:18:13.000 Oh, shit. 0.99
00:18:14.000 You were one of the first people to talk about that yacht thing, dude. 0.99
00:18:14.000 Thank you. 0.99
00:18:14.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:18:16.000 It's crazy.
00:18:17.000 Would you want to know if your girlfriend or wife smashed somebody in your room with? 0.99
00:18:22.000 Nigga, I want to know before I even get there. 1.00
00:18:25.000 So, what he said is correct. 1.00
00:18:27.000 My last four girlfriends from Frog Level, Arkansas, Nashville, Tennessee, Fargo, North Dakota, and Kildare, Ireland. 0.85
00:18:33.000 Those are the last four girls that I've gone out with.
00:18:36.000 And the one before that, the one before that, from Phoenix. 0.57
00:18:36.000 Yes. 0.57
00:18:40.000 The one before that, from Phoenix. 1.00
00:18:41.000 The last five girls I dated, that's because they weren't Vegas local girls.
00:18:45.000 That's exactly right.
00:18:46.000 So, man, I want you to be careful watching this podcast.
00:18:48.000 Imagine you choose a wife or girlfriend nowadays, right?
00:18:51.000 You don't know her past to a T. That's fine.
00:18:54.000 No one knows for sure.
00:18:55.000 They can lie to you, say whatever.
00:18:57.000 But at least if you got a girlfriend or wife, bro, she needs to have the decision to say, you know what? 0.99
00:19:02.000 Miguel, just so you understand, we go to this spot, I fucked the manager. 1.00
00:19:09.000 Because it's just to tell you, bro, you look crazy. 1.00
00:19:12.000 No, I don't. 0.97
00:19:12.000 You're right. 0.97
00:19:13.000 You're right. 1.00
00:19:13.000 You look crazy. 1.00
00:19:13.000 Sartine, would it tell you? 1.00
00:19:15.000 Probably not.
00:19:16.000 No, they won't. 1.00
00:19:17.000 You fucked Sartine. 1.00
00:19:17.000 You fucked the promoter. 1.00
00:19:18.000 You fucked Rolo. 1.00
00:19:19.000 But here's the issue. 1.00
00:19:20.000 What?
00:19:21.000 This is why I'm not mad at Amy.
00:19:23.000 I'm just like, listen, Amy brought the dude, right?
00:19:26.000 She was in an impossible situation. 1.00
00:19:28.000 Nah, nigga, you're a conservative woman. 1.00
00:19:29.000 You should be honest with your man. 1.00
00:19:31.000 You brought a nice, charming young man that has no knowledge of how this shit actually works, but you know how it works. 0.98
00:19:40.000 And I'm calling no names here, but you smashed a couple people in the space. 0.98
00:19:44.000 Now, I know what you did.
00:19:46.000 I didn't say anything. 1.00
00:19:47.000 Shit, Zena did. 0.99
00:19:48.000 But my point is at least tell the dude, listen, brother, I'm in the customer's space. 0.99
00:19:54.000 I know what's happening.
00:19:55.000 Out of respect for you, my love, my husband, my boyfriend.
00:19:59.000 You know, this happened.
00:20:00.000 Are you okay with coming to the studio?
00:20:02.000 Don't bring him in and say nothing and then get exposed.
00:20:04.000 Dude, you look great.
00:20:05.000 Yo, I remember. 0.81
00:20:05.000 He looks crazy. 0.81
00:20:06.000 It's a poor guy's fucked. 1.00
00:20:08.000 Two incidents. 0.99
00:20:09.000 Hypothetical question.
00:20:11.000 Two incidents.
00:20:11.000 One.
00:20:12.000 I had two girls on my podcast, and then we had three way Bible study right afterwards for the next three nights. 0.97
00:20:18.000 And then afterwards, the day she's leaving to go back to where she lives, because most of the time when we have a girl who joins us, she usually doesn't like her to live in Vegas. 0.64
00:20:28.000 Sometimes they do.
00:20:29.000 And she is asking us for relationship advice for the guy that she's seeing.
00:20:35.000 And I'm like, what?
00:20:37.000 Another time, this was not even a couple months ago, we're in a neighboring state to this one, and we go see a girl, and she's telling us, I have a date with this guy tomorrow.
00:20:46.000 She's like, I've never had a threesome before.
00:20:48.000 You know, I'm celibate.
00:20:49.000 I'm choosing to be celibate.
00:20:50.000 Comes back, has three way Bible study with us.
00:20:54.000 And then she comes to Vegas with the guy that she went on the date with the next day.
00:20:59.000 And that's now her boyfriend.
00:21:01.000 This happens constantly.
00:21:03.000 There's no, this constantly happens.
00:21:06.000 Constantly happens with us where we'll have three way Bible study with a girl.
00:21:11.000 And then all of a sudden she's asking us for like dating advice with the guy that she's with.
00:21:15.000 You know, it's interesting because like, because it doesn't count because she had a three way.
00:21:17.000 It wasn't a three way.
00:21:18.000 You will, like, and I know you've read these studies and you will, Because they're people that you respect, but these guys will tell you how there's no way that's possible. 1.00
00:21:27.000 There's no way that could happen because women would never be able to live with themselves, or else they'll qualify and go, Well, those are low quality women. 0.99
00:21:36.000 They're damaged in some way. 1.00
00:21:37.000 There's always some kind of cope that goes along with that to explain it away. 0.98
00:21:43.000 But no, the fact of the matter is that women can and do have an ability to compartmentalize cognitive dissonance, just like that, where it's like it's nothing to them to think of that with. 0.89
00:21:53.000 Now, Guys, I think, need to get that through their head. 0.78
00:21:56.000 So, back to my hypothetical here is if, say, understanding what I just said right now, if you took that guy and I saw the pictures of the guy and I got a little bit of a background on the guy that Amy has married, I guess now, right?
00:22:09.000 Yeah.
00:22:10.000 If that guy, I'm going to ask you because you know better than I do, if that guy had known about all those dudes, right?
00:22:21.000 Including the sugar daddy.
00:22:21.000 Right.
00:22:23.000 Fingers is crazy.
00:22:23.000 Because I can think of at least four off the top of my head.
00:22:26.000 Okay.
00:22:26.000 Yeah.
00:22:26.000 Yeah.
00:22:27.000 And I know.
00:22:28.000 I know who they are too.
00:22:30.000 That's just the thing, right?
00:22:31.000 Yeah.
00:22:32.000 So, but, but, but, so if, but, but, but, do you, is, do you, does that guy not strike you as a guy who would still go, yeah, I'll still marry her?
00:22:41.000 Yeah.
00:22:42.000 Yes.
00:22:43.000 Yeah.
00:22:43.000 But here's the thing, right?
00:22:44.000 Here's the thing.
00:22:44.000 That's a good point.
00:22:45.000 That's a very good point.
00:22:46.000 Because still do it anyway.
00:22:48.000 He may, okay, you know, just let's go through with this method here, right?
00:22:52.000 Let's say she told him and he said, you know what?
00:22:54.000 I still love you.
00:22:54.000 I don't care.
00:22:55.000 Right.
00:22:56.000 At least he knows.
00:22:57.000 Yeah.
00:22:57.000 Yeah.
00:22:58.000 But now, but now, fast forward.
00:23:01.000 This comes out and it's open in a form where you can't recover from this.
00:23:05.000 Because think about it.
00:23:07.000 Now that he knows, even if he could handle it to himself, the world knows.
00:23:11.000 Right.
00:23:11.000 Yeah.
00:23:12.000 Now you're a cuck. 1.00
00:23:13.000 Now you're exposed. 1.00
00:23:14.000 Your girl's for the streets.
00:23:15.000 Bro, how do you recover from that?
00:23:16.000 Yeah.
00:23:16.000 How do you, as a man, say, you know what?
00:23:18.000 My balls are big enough to handle this and stay with her long term? 0.99
00:23:21.000 Bro, it's going to end. 0.98
00:23:22.000 So I guess the issue is you guys are saying it's not unreasonable for someone to want to be with Amy because she's been with these guys.
00:23:30.000 But by the way, you know, I'm not trying to pile on here.
00:23:32.000 I like Amy a lot. 1.00
00:23:35.000 What the fuck? 0.99
00:23:36.000 Amy went to like a slam ball thing with me and her and I are friends, which she's been nothing but cool. 1.00
00:23:40.000 I think Amy was a cool person.
00:23:41.000 She's really cool. 0.52
00:23:43.000 My thing is, you're not saying that because she's been with XYZ that she's unmarryable.
00:23:48.000 You're saying that even though she's been with XYZ, the guy she's going to marry should at least know beforehand that this is what's going on.
00:23:55.000 And then there's nothing wrong with him choosing.
00:23:57.000 Because, guys, we're going to get to a point here really soon where it's like, I want to be with a woman who's only been with three guys. 0.97
00:24:01.000 And it's like, you're going to be a virgin pimp. 0.88
00:24:03.000 Like, that's, we're getting to that place very quickly. 0.99
00:24:06.000 That's the reality.
00:24:06.000 Yes.
00:24:07.000 Because, This is why body color is important because I don't need to know you're that number, but I need to know if I'm in the vicinity of this person.
00:24:13.000 Yes, yes.
00:24:14.000 Okay, the problem is we are so hyper focused on sex as men and women nowadays that even on the lowest level of like actual love of connection, there's going to be crossover.
00:24:26.000 Like, I'm sure if I lived in Vegas, bro, we'd have multiple girls that we smash both.
00:24:31.000 But as a real friend, as a real man, wink, wink, would do, you go put, listen, brother, just so you know, I was with her.
00:24:39.000 Because you're a real friend.
00:24:39.000 Boom, we smashed.
00:24:40.000 Because now I know, damn, thanks, bro. 0.99
00:24:44.000 I'm good. 0.99
00:24:44.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:24:45.000 Versus you sitting there next to me like this, like she's looking at you like, damn, he didn't tell him? 0.99
00:24:51.000 Great. 0.97
00:24:52.000 I got one up.
00:24:53.000 Because remember, if she doesn't tell you as your partner, your homeboy should tell you.
00:24:59.000 This is why I don't have as many guy friends.
00:25:02.000 I can tell you, bro.
00:25:03.000 I like guys, like a girl will be dating, like a girl will be hitting on me.
00:25:06.000 I meet, she has a boyfriend and he wants to become friends with me, and I'm like, I can't.
00:25:09.000 Do this because I know how this is going to end.
00:25:11.000 I already know this is going to end.
00:25:12.000 There's been times I've been in Miami at a table, right?
00:25:14.000 10K table my boys bought.
00:25:16.000 Yeah.
00:25:16.000 I'm there for free, of course, because you know what I'm saying?
00:25:18.000 They bring girls.
00:25:20.000 She's looking at my boy a certain way.
00:25:21.000 Like just looking at him.
00:25:23.000 Because remember, eye contact is very important, right?
00:25:25.000 For the beginning of talking, sexual attention.
00:25:29.000 So she looks at him a certain way. 1.00
00:25:31.000 I can just tell from the look, they fucked. 0.99
00:25:33.000 I'm like, yo, real quick, bro. 1.00
00:25:35.000 Like, you smashed that?
00:25:36.000 Yeah, I did.
00:25:37.000 Now, mind you, you know what I would have done? 0.99
00:25:39.000 I spoke to her, gained a little bit, tried to smash, take her home.
00:25:43.000 But knowing that he smashed, I'm good.
00:25:45.000 Because it's just weird to me, right?
00:25:47.000 I don't know if you guys, but it's weird to me.
00:25:48.000 Of course.
00:25:48.000 Yeah, of course.
00:25:49.000 So I want to know so I don't go down a path.
00:25:51.000 For example, I don't call names, but like, big guy in our space, you know, you know them, you know them.
00:25:57.000 You're fresh.
00:25:57.000 You know this girl?
00:25:58.000 Yeah, this happened.
00:26:00.000 Cool.
00:26:00.000 Good to know.
00:26:01.000 Done.
00:26:02.000 It's just a principle thing. 0.97
00:26:03.000 But to not tell your homeboy and then for your girl not to tell you, bro, that's disgusting, bro. 0.96
00:26:08.000 Yeah.
00:26:09.000 And then just to go back to the earlier example of like, all right, the dude accepts, he's like, all right, I'm still going to date you.
00:26:15.000 You told me.
00:26:17.000 Don't embarrass me.
00:26:17.000 It's the same thing with the guys.
00:26:18.000 It's like, look, I'm messing around, but I'm not going to embarrass you.
00:26:22.000 Okay. 0.97
00:26:23.000 And then you're like, you embarrass your girl, and then she's mad, and you're like, yeah, I fucked up right there. 0.98
00:26:27.000 Right. 1.00
00:26:27.000 But on the other side, too, it's like, what the fuck are you doing taking me to this fucking party? 1.00
00:26:30.000 Or like, if we're getting married and you're going to get out of this thing, why are you putting me in situations to make me look like a fucking idiot? 1.00
00:26:37.000 I'm almost to the point now where you, if you're a man and you have any kind of personal brand whatsoever, you should not put your girl on camera. 1.00
00:26:44.000 100%.
00:26:45.000 And obviously, 100%.
00:26:46.000 I'm calling my own foul here, right?
00:26:48.000 I legitimately thought. 0.63
00:26:49.000 Because I was 44 dating a 20 year old girl who looked like Megan Fox with a boob job, that I would get more credibility from this space. 0.54
00:26:56.000 And I got nothing but hate. 0.55
00:26:58.000 And people started making all these videos about her due to, in a million years, could never get a girl that hot.
00:27:03.000 And I just made up my mind from that point forward no matter who I'm dating, I'm not putting her on camera again as my girl ever again.
00:27:09.000 Because I think that's the answer.
00:27:10.000 That's the only answer.
00:27:11.000 Because here's the thing she could do nothing wrong.
00:27:14.000 And there's still weirdos who will make up videos that say she did things wrong that she didn't do.
00:27:19.000 A great example was the situation with Myron.
00:27:21.000 Myron had broken up with Angie, and then there was a video of her with some skateboarder or whatever.
00:27:26.000 They were broken up.
00:27:27.000 Well, I don't understand.
00:27:27.000 Yeah.
00:27:28.000 You're sitting here trying to make this so. 0.75
00:27:30.000 With my relationship, I broke up with her.
00:27:32.000 The only person I told was I did tell you, and I told you.
00:27:35.000 And no one picked up on the fact that I was single for a whole year.
00:27:39.000 It was August of 24 when we broke up.
00:27:41.000 It was August of 25 before I started getting messages.
00:27:44.000 Are you still with so and so?
00:27:45.000 And then all the haters caught up.
00:27:47.000 They're like, oh my God, they broke up.
00:27:49.000 She must have cheated on him.
00:27:50.000 And it was like, no, I broke up with her in August of 24.
00:27:54.000 And like, I didn't tell any of you about it for the whole year.
00:27:57.000 And it wasn't until people started seeing me with all these other girls that people started figuring out that I was seeing someone else, which is why I said that's what Logan Paul should have done with Nina Ogall, which is just like, don't say anything about it.
00:28:06.000 Same thing with Travis Hunter.
00:28:07.000 He should just.
00:28:08.000 Keep stay off social media, then a year later be on a date already on a date with another girl, and then when someone asks you, be like, Hey, wish nothing but the best for her, and then keep it pushing.
00:28:17.000 That's the way to break up instead of what people do is like, I need to, we need to leave, uh, have a public statement, a joint statement.
00:28:24.000 Yeah, don't, don't, there's you don't need to have a joint public statement, you just keep it.
00:28:30.000 No one needs to know.
00:28:31.000 It's like, you're, you know, really good at this, Chris Williamson.
00:28:34.000 I have no idea who's dating, I have no clue, he's doing a great job, I have no clue.
00:28:37.000 Joe Rogan keeps his girl off the internet, it's terrific.
00:28:41.000 You know the terrible example of this?
00:28:43.000 Akash Singh.
00:28:43.000 That's about as bad as you can go in the opposite direction.
00:28:46.000 What are you doing?
00:28:47.000 Another issue. 0.97
00:28:48.000 You know, I really like the guy, but Tom, Bill, you like what you're doing with your wife.
00:28:52.000 You need to have separate entities that have nothing to do with each other. 0.98
00:28:56.000 But unfortunately, because she's swagger jacked you and taking your clout, and now she's running off in a different direction with clout that she didn't earn. 0.99
00:29:05.000 Now, all she does, there is no good that can come from this. 0.99
00:29:08.000 None.
00:29:08.000 You are not going to get a single sponsor or make a single dollar because of what you're doing.
00:29:13.000 You've only enabled yourself to risk.
00:29:15.000 So, the thing I would say is if you're a dude and you even have 10,000 followers on Instagram, I think it's probably the best idea for you to just keep your girl. 0.57
00:29:21.000 What you do is close friends list girls that you maybe want to have Bible study with and dudes that are your homies that you trust. 0.78
00:29:29.000 They're the only ones who get to see your relationship.
00:29:31.000 And then everyone else, you just say, hey, I'm taking pictures.
00:29:33.000 I'm with 12 girls right now.
00:29:35.000 We're existing.
00:29:35.000 We're just having fun.
00:29:36.000 We're living life.
00:29:37.000 Might be sleeping with them, might not be sleeping with them.
00:29:38.000 It's none of your business.
00:29:39.000 I'm existing, but I'm going to give you some advice.
00:29:41.000 You can listen to it or not.
00:29:42.000 But when you make it about you, bro, It's a problem.
00:29:46.000 But people use it as a shortcut for their social media pages.
00:29:48.000 Correct.
00:29:49.000 And that's also the problem as well.
00:29:51.000 I mean, because they're giving no motion. 1.00
00:29:52.000 It's like, let me put my wife in here and then I'm putting my wife on every fucking thumbnail with her ass in fucking yoga pants. 1.00
00:29:57.000 Now you're going to be part of the brand. 1.00
00:29:59.000 And then I get it.
00:30:01.000 You want her to be a part of it, but it doesn't work.
00:30:03.000 They're not all Layla Hermosi.
00:30:05.000 If they were all Layla Hermosi, then maybe.
00:30:06.000 But they're not like that.
00:30:07.000 Well, if you notice, most agencies and Hollywood directors tell actors to get with somebody similar magnitude because if you have a relationship like that online, If it breaks, that doesn't matter because it's not even real.
00:30:22.000 But as an audience, you're like, you should do that.
00:30:24.000 She did this.
00:30:25.000 It's just, you know, engagement and more back to for the next season, next episode. 0.97
00:30:30.000 But if it's a real girlfriend, a real boyfriend, a real husband and wife, that's going to create tension automatically.
00:30:36.000 So there's no win win in that scenario.
00:30:38.000 No way to win.
00:30:38.000 None.
00:30:39.000 So, in that sense, even me, for example, I brought girls on stream.
00:30:42.000 I was having fun with it.
00:30:43.000 It was a serious, just have this fun.
00:30:45.000 Even that was taking out content. 1.00
00:30:46.000 I was like, God damn, I'm just fucking her. 1.00
00:30:48.000 It's not for my girl. 1.00
00:30:49.000 So I think just our space, especially, our camera is way better.
00:30:54.000 Yeah.
00:30:54.000 And I find it weird when people post their kids too.
00:30:56.000 Bro, it's so insane.
00:30:57.000 It's crazy. 0.99
00:30:58.000 Listen, we all need to just be floating, disembodied penises that just exist in the universe. 1.00
00:31:05.000 It's Schrodinger's penis. 1.00
00:31:09.000 We are both sleeping with a woman and not sleeping with a woman at the same time. 1.00
00:31:12.000 We're in a relationship and not in a relationship at the same time. 1.00
00:31:15.000 Schrodinger's penis. 1.00
00:31:15.000 That's what we do. 1.00
00:31:16.000 You know what I like now when it's fresh? 1.00
00:31:17.000 You don't got no bitches, bro. 1.00
00:31:18.000 You got to pay. 1.00
00:31:19.000 Cool.
00:31:20.000 Because you know what it is?
00:31:20.000 Think that.
00:31:22.000 In real life, I know what I do.
00:31:23.000 But it's funny because.
00:31:25.000 When I showed people the dates I went on on YouTube and the vlogs, it got weird.
00:31:29.000 They'd give them the girl's parents. 1.00
00:31:31.000 Oh, she's a mud shark. 0.86
00:31:32.000 I mean, that's kind of funny, but you know what I'm saying?
00:31:34.000 And then it's like, you're stalking her.
00:31:36.000 And now it's weird because I don't want to hurt the girl.
00:31:40.000 She's super cool.
00:31:41.000 I'm just having fun.
00:31:42.000 We're having fun.
00:31:43.000 But then it's like, it's a weird place to be.
00:31:45.000 Now imagine if that was my girlfriend for real.
00:31:47.000 Disaster. 0.85
00:31:49.000 They create things and a parasocial dynamic where it makes it awkward.
00:31:53.000 And notice, I've been on YouTube for six, seven years.
00:31:57.000 Before that, I watch YouTubers all the time.
00:32:00.000 I could call my fingers, right?
00:32:02.000 How many YouTubers are still together?
00:32:04.000 After making data channels, having family channels, dude, they're all broken up.
00:32:09.000 Why is that?
00:32:10.000 Adding internet, comments, and two people together like that is the recipe for a disaster because, dude, you cannot control the outcome of what people will say, how they'll react to you, and what they push out there.
00:32:21.000 Because think about it.
00:32:22.000 Even if you're an amazing creator, you're the best in the world, comments will pierce you at some point.
00:32:28.000 Yes, they will.
00:32:29.000 There's only one archetype that I can think of that works with family is.
00:32:35.000 Father, son, or father, cousin, male cousin, or something like that, that I've seen work.
00:32:39.000 Because if it breaks up, it's like, well, he's just off doing his own thing.
00:32:42.000 Or brothers.
00:32:42.000 Sort of like.
00:32:43.000 Brothers.
00:32:45.000 Yeah.
00:32:45.000 But even then, they could have gone into a huge fight and just broken up and they do their own things.
00:32:49.000 But still, it's like, it doesn't destroy the whole thing, basically.
00:32:52.000 It's like they're just doing off their own thing, depending on how bad the fight is.
00:32:55.000 People always ask me about what my wife's dynamic is. 0.98
00:32:58.000 And it's like, well, my wife doesn't want to be on social media. 0.98
00:33:01.000 She simply doesn't.
00:33:02.000 She has, go ahead, please do.
00:33:04.000 Look for her Instagram.
00:33:05.000 Look for her Twitter.
00:33:06.000 Look for her Facebook.
00:33:07.000 It's not there because she doesn't have it.
00:33:09.000 She's never.
00:33:09.000 Every time I date a girl, stalkers, bro, these guys just start stalking them, asking them questions, all kinds of.
00:33:15.000 My favorite is this one guy, because I've said this a million times.
00:33:18.000 If you can find one single girl I've ever paid to hang out with me, go on a date with me, take a picture with me, come to my event, anything, if I paid one cent to any one of them, I will give you $50,000 if you can find one girl and all of them are tagged on my Instagram.
00:33:31.000 So I say this and everyone shuts the fuck up, except one dude actually took me up on it and he started messaging a bunch of girls.
00:33:37.000 And the girls were like, the girls were like, They were sending me the screenshots.
00:33:40.000 A bunch of girls were like, the guy was like, how much does Michael pay you?
00:33:43.000 And the, and the girls were like, Michael doesn't pay me anything.
00:33:46.000 They're like, well, then why do you hang out with him?
00:33:47.000 She's like, because I love him.
00:33:49.000 He's my friend.
00:33:50.000 Michael is one of the like the greatest dudes ever.
00:33:51.000 And they sent me these screenshots.
00:33:52.000 And what did the guy did?
00:33:53.000 Did he go, oh my gosh, I've learned a new lesson. 0.99
00:33:56.000 It turns out you can actually have a bunch of women speak up for you and actually fucking really like you. 1.00
00:34:01.000 Uh, and then, and then from that date a bunch of beautiful women. 1.00
00:34:04.000 Instead, he's like, fuck you, bitch. 1.00
00:34:06.000 You stupid whore. 1.00
00:34:07.000 What do you mean? 1.00
00:34:07.000 Like, no, no, she's not a stupid whore. 1.00
00:34:09.000 She didn't take any money. 1.00
00:34:10.000 That's great.
00:34:11.000 You couldn't accept the fact that I have never paid a single woman, never, it's not that I don't pay.
00:34:17.000 I've never paid a single woman ever to come to any event or go to dinner with me or anything ever, one time ever. 0.61
00:34:26.000 And instead of guys saying, hey, maybe there's something I could learn from this dude, maybe I could go to his YouTube channel and see the videos saying, you can never lead with money, why successful guys don't suck at dating.
00:34:37.000 Maybe you could watch one of those videos that might teach you.
00:34:39.000 But instead, what they do is say, Screw this guy.
00:34:43.000 This is my religion.
00:34:44.000 My religion is I'm a victim because I don't have money, or I'm a victim because I don't look like King 6'8 or clavicular.
00:34:50.000 So I'm a victim.
00:34:51.000 And Michael is taking away my victim status by showing me testimonials of dudes who are 4'11 and broke ending up hooking up with hot chicks.
00:34:57.000 Guys with thick Indian accents hooking up with hot chicks. 0.99
00:35:00.000 He's ruining my fucking victimhood. 1.00
00:35:04.000 Also, just at that point, obviously, I have a stutter sometimes, right? 0.99
00:35:07.000 They're like, Fresh can't do this.
00:35:09.000 He's paying.
00:35:09.000 It's not possible.
00:35:11.000 And I didn't say wager. 0.98
00:35:12.000 Damn, all of those on my vlogs that I've ever been with. 0.97
00:35:14.000 Even the ones I bring on camera are my story. 0.99
00:35:17.000 If I paid them, not one, there's none.
00:35:19.000 It's inspiring, it should be inspiring.
00:35:21.000 Now, mind you, it highlights their deficiency because think about it, right?
00:35:24.000 Think about this.
00:35:26.000 If I could pull holes, like looking, chilling like this, you know what I'm saying?
00:35:29.000 Having like that muscular, that alpha, whatever that shows their colors because look in the mirror.
00:35:36.000 Yes, if I could do this, you can't do it.
00:35:39.000 What does that say about you?
00:35:40.000 Yeah, well, that's because again, this is the same.
00:35:42.000 And I really hate this mentality when somebody says you shouldn't compare yourself to other people, you should compare yourself to who you were yesterday. 1.00
00:35:48.000 Fuck that. 0.99
00:35:49.000 You should compare yourself absolutely to other people because that will give you inspiration to get bigger and better and do something. 1.00
00:35:56.000 And we do it naturally, anyways.
00:35:58.000 There's no way you're going to never do that, right?
00:36:00.000 I mean, I understand like beating yourself up over it. 0.96
00:36:03.000 But if you're a bodybuilder and you look at Arnold Schwarzenegger and it's prime and you go, damn, I want to look like that. 0.97
00:36:09.000 Okay. 0.97
00:36:10.000 You're comparing.
00:36:11.000 Okay.
00:36:12.000 Today I don't look like that yet.
00:36:13.000 Oh, do I look?
00:36:13.000 You know, keep going every day.
00:36:15.000 How much massage?
00:36:16.000 And that's just, yeah, how much do I got to do?
00:36:18.000 But that's, I mean, the whole thing is just, yeah.
00:36:22.000 The reason what Mike was just saying a minute ago is like, guys don't think it's possible.
00:36:27.000 Yeah.
00:36:27.000 They don't.
00:36:28.000 I mean, fundamentally, philosophically, like, you know, mentally in their mental space, it is impossible for that to happen.
00:36:36.000 And so that's why.
00:36:37.000 You got, well, you pay those girls. 1.00
00:36:39.000 Oh, you, you know, those girls are damaged.
00:36:44.000 The other one is, those are fake charity events, Michael. 0.99
00:36:47.000 Like, they're fake charity events.
00:36:48.000 Just invest, it's 501c3.
00:36:50.000 Just investigate if it's a fake charity.
00:36:52.000 It'd be so easy for you.
00:36:54.000 Just expose us if it's a fake charity.
00:36:56.000 We're literally taking toys for the Midnight Mission.
00:36:58.000 It is a homeless shelter in Los Angeles.
00:37:00.000 It's been there for 100 years.
00:37:02.000 The people from the homeless shelter come to our event.
00:37:05.000 They say, thank you for the two truckloads worth of toys. 1.00
00:37:08.000 Do you think we take the toys home with us and sell the fucking toys? 1.00
00:37:11.000 Are you retarded? 1.00
00:37:13.000 What is wrong with you? 1.00
00:37:14.000 It's not a fake charity.
00:37:16.000 The problem is, here's the thing.
00:37:18.000 When you really listen to what I say, have a bunch of women introduce you to more women and build your entire social life around philanthropy. 0.98
00:37:24.000 If you really think about it, you're like, God damn, that's a really good idea. 0.99
00:37:27.000 Why didn't I fucking think of that? 0.99
00:37:28.000 That's what you should be thinking. 0.99
00:37:30.000 Instead, he pays the women and the charity is fake.
00:37:33.000 No, bro, you're a victim.
00:37:35.000 You're just a victim. 1.00
00:37:36.000 You're a coward and a victim. 1.00
00:37:38.000 That's it. 1.00
00:37:38.000 And I'm sorry. 1.00
00:37:39.000 I have insulted your religion. 1.00
00:37:41.000 Your religion is. 1.00
00:37:42.000 Only men who are good looking with money get women. 1.00
00:37:45.000 But unfortunately, you have to explain away my 4,500 fucking clients and you can't. 1.00
00:37:51.000 So you hate me instead. 1.00
00:37:54.000 That's the problem.
00:37:55.000 Just accept the fact.
00:37:56.000 Like, I don't understand why do all these people have me on their show?
00:37:58.000 Why is it so many?
00:37:59.000 Why does the New York Times, if the New York Post and the London Times are writing negative articles about me, that should prove to you what I'm doing works.
00:38:06.000 Okay.
00:38:07.000 That's just weird.
00:38:08.000 We're to a point where it's like, you got to accept this.
00:38:10.000 All these people, dude, there's no negative reviews of my program.
00:38:13.000 Do you realize that?
00:38:14.000 There's no negative.
00:38:15.000 There's not a single negative review of my program anywhere.
00:38:18.000 And I have 4,500 clients. 0.99
00:38:18.000 How is that fucking possible? 0.99
00:38:20.000 How is that possible? 0.98
00:38:21.000 And the reason why is because I am too arrogant to let anyone who takes my program not have success.
00:38:26.000 I am so arrogant that I will not.
00:38:28.000 It's like the Marines.
00:38:29.000 We don't leave any men behind.
00:38:30.000 There's no one I leave behind.
00:38:31.000 And that's the reason why it works so well. 0.99
00:38:33.000 Somebody said there's three dudes in the room with sunglasses on and you're all losers. 0.97
00:38:37.000 But now there's four. 0.99
00:38:39.000 There's four.
00:38:40.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:38:41.000 Shout out to losers. 1.00
00:38:43.000 Losers. 1.00
00:38:44.000 You know, I always wonder sometimes. 0.99
00:38:49.000 Can we save everybody?
00:38:51.000 And we can.
00:38:51.000 Not everyone wants to be saved.
00:38:54.000 Yes.
00:38:54.000 And as a result, they're going to always wallow in despair.
00:38:57.000 And that's the sad part because I want everyone to win.
00:38:59.000 I really do.
00:39:00.000 I mean, we've been successful.
00:39:02.000 You know what kills me is when we see visible success.
00:39:08.000 I've been working with the Reignite guys for almost two years now, right?
00:39:12.000 And I've seen guys who were just this side of suicidal, just this side of self deletion, right?
00:39:21.000 And I still work with some guys.
00:39:23.000 I will get a new guy in, and we got to start it all over again because I know where that guy's at.
00:39:27.000 Thank God I've got other dudes that are in the program right now who are there to help out, you know, along with the thing.
00:39:32.000 But they don't, I mean, you want to talk about guys who don't believe that these are young guys who don't believe that it's possible that they could possibly go to a babes in toy land and pick up a hot girl, whatever, like that.
00:39:41.000 Now, imagine, imagine you're 45 years old and you just came out of a really bad, nasty divorce and you don't think life is possible and you don't think that you have two options basically delete yourself or rebuild yourself because everything you built up to that point has just been.
00:39:58.000 Ripped away from me, and everything you thought was going to make your life this great life later on.
00:40:04.000 It's all been stripped away, and you don't know what to do, and you have no idea how to rebuild yourself.
00:40:09.000 Right.
00:40:10.000 What gets me is when I listen to these guys talking about, like, you know, what is it?
00:40:16.000 Adolescence, right?
00:40:18.000 Or the Manosphere movie or something.
00:40:19.000 We were going to spend 20 billion British pounds to a million British pounds to make sure that little 13 year old kids don't go and stab their classmates because they don't want them to talk like Andrew Tate and everything.
00:40:29.000 What about?
00:40:30.000 Guys who are 45 to 65 years old.
00:40:32.000 There's a whole nother demographic of guys who are Gen X and maybe a few boomers, but, you know, Gen X, just maybe the latter half of the millennials who are still part of this space.
00:40:43.000 They're still part of the manosphere.
00:40:44.000 They're still part of the red pill space. 0.97
00:40:47.000 No one talks about them.
00:40:49.000 Like, once you get past like, you know, 45, 49, somewhere around there, you're effectively invisible at that point.
00:40:54.000 You don't care.
00:40:55.000 Right.
00:40:56.000 What about those dudes?
00:40:57.000 That's still a part of like, you know, the masculinity crisis.
00:41:02.000 And nobody wants to talk about.
00:41:03.000 That no one wants to help these guys rebuild.
00:41:05.000 In fact, I, as far as I know, I'm have the only program that's doing anything that's effective like that.
00:41:11.000 But what gets me is that when I work with these guys who were previously really kind of hopeless and they get about six months into the program, they get, you know, we do an event or something and they go out and they realize, hey, maybe that maybe there's something, maybe I can get laid, maybe I can get a girl.
00:41:25.000 They don't want to become players, they just want a girlfriend.
00:41:28.000 They just want to be able to socialize after this complete disaster that happened to their life.
00:41:33.000 They got zeroed out, man.
00:41:34.000 And it's like, I'm not trying to turn these guys into like, you know, players so they can go and get their notch count up. 1.00
00:41:40.000 And oh, yeah, we're going to fuck all these bad bitches and manipulate and play games with women. 1.00
00:41:44.000 They just want to date. 1.00
00:41:45.000 They just want to get a kiss. 1.00
00:41:47.000 They just want to make a connection that isn't a fucking OnlyFans girl. 0.95
00:41:51.000 They want to have a real human connection with something. 0.93
00:41:53.000 And they don't even have the opportunities to do anything like that.
00:41:56.000 I'm trying to help these guys along.
00:41:58.000 But no, Rolla's filching shekels out of the back of their pockets or something like that. 0.51
00:42:03.000 These manosphere guys are like, you deal with this all the time.
00:42:05.000 So do I. They're just, they're on the take all the time.
00:42:09.000 Simply don't know what the fuck they're talking about. 1.00
00:42:12.000 It is confident ignorance on their part. 1.00
00:42:15.000 Go ahead.
00:42:15.000 I think the quote today is don't hate, just create.
00:42:19.000 Look, there's many ways to skin a cat.
00:42:21.000 And look, some guys want to pay for a box.
00:42:23.000 Cool.
00:42:23.000 By all means, go for it.
00:42:25.000 Some guys, they want to spit game all day and game chicks all day.
00:42:29.000 Sure, have at it.
00:42:30.000 Some guys just realize, you know what?
00:42:31.000 I need to be the full package in all factors of life.
00:42:34.000 So I'm going to do that first, then talk to girls.
00:42:36.000 Whatever way you want to do it, you can do it.
00:42:38.000 My point of view is if someone's doing well in their own lane, Why hate on them?
00:42:43.000 Right, they figured out a way for themselves to work, get girls, get success.
00:42:46.000 Cool, maybe I can learn from them what they're doing to apply to my life.
00:42:50.000 Yeah, and you know what I saw?
00:42:52.000 I saw Tate rise up to who he was in 22, 21. 0.99
00:42:56.000 I was like, damn, this dude's killing it. 0.94
00:42:58.000 He has everyone's eyeballs on him, pause, and he has a lot of like you know good qualities that I could take from them. 0.99
00:43:04.000 Yes, by myself, the lifestyle, you know, helping others.
00:43:08.000 Cool, I'll take those qualities, apply where I can.
00:43:11.000 And bro, I tell you not, I kid you not, my Instagram page.
00:43:15.000 I was at what, like what?
00:43:16.000 I think it was like 300K back then. 0.85
00:43:18.000 Bro, I just took some shit from Andrew's page, applied it to mine.
00:43:22.000 And obviously, I'm making money for the lifestyle, but like it helped me grow a lot more. 0.95
00:43:26.000 Yes.
00:43:26.000 I could have been, you know what?
00:43:27.000 At this guy, bro.
00:43:28.000 I don't like him.
00:43:29.000 He's doing too well, bro. 1.00
00:43:30.000 You got too much girls in the cars. 1.00
00:43:31.000 Fuck him. 1.00
00:43:32.000 I just, you know what? 1.00
00:43:32.000 I'm going to rather than hate create. 1.00
00:43:34.000 And that changed my entire mindset.
00:43:35.000 And do after that, you and I started doing those reaction videos.
00:43:40.000 You know, the white, the green screen.
00:43:42.000 Those are so great.
00:43:43.000 They don't take a lot of time.
00:43:45.000 No effort.
00:43:45.000 With no effort.
00:43:46.000 And they get, I'm actually, because the New York, like I said, the New York Post wrote an article about me two days ago.
00:43:50.000 I'm going to do one tonight.
00:43:51.000 I'm going to react to the article.
00:43:54.000 And they do so well.
00:43:55.000 They require so little effort.
00:43:57.000 I'm in Miami with you and Clav.
00:43:59.000 And then I'm like, I need to get on kick.
00:44:01.000 I need to get on Rumble.
00:44:02.000 So I started a kick in Rumble this week from doing that.
00:44:05.000 So, yeah, you have to learn.
00:44:06.000 Andrew Tate, his monologues that he does, where he just goes off on one subject and he just, it's so compelling when you listen to it.
00:44:13.000 I try to steal that.
00:44:15.000 You're right.
00:44:15.000 These guys are really, really good communicators.
00:44:17.000 But I also steal stuff from like Chris Williamson.
00:44:19.000 He uses a bunch of peer review data to come to a conclusion that's not a very popular conclusion.
00:44:24.000 I like that.
00:44:24.000 I steal that as well.
00:44:25.000 I would say steal.
00:44:26.000 I would say you apply things that apply to you.
00:44:29.000 Stealing is going to be appropriate.
00:44:30.000 There you go.
00:44:31.000 It's excessive.
00:44:32.000 But yeah, you get a point.
00:44:33.000 Well, look at Miguel.
00:44:35.000 His actual prowess for crypto and obviously DCAing is powerful. 0.83
00:44:40.000 Now, I don't mean Miguel, you know, six foot one, Mexican, wife and kids.
00:44:46.000 He's a stud, but I don't be Miguel.
00:44:49.000 But his crypto knowledge, oh, by all means, bless me, bro.
00:44:52.000 Yeah, I'm always one phone call away, you know.
00:44:54.000 So that's it.
00:44:55.000 So, like, look, guys, no one's perfect.
00:44:57.000 No one has all the options. 1.00
00:44:58.000 I would not be in Las Vegas if I went for this motherfucker. 1.00
00:45:00.000 There you go. 1.00
00:45:01.000 But take what you can that applies to you and move forward, man.
00:45:04.000 Look, Rollo's a mentor.
00:45:05.000 Miguel's a mentor.
00:45:07.000 He's a mentor as well.
00:45:08.000 We all are mentors in our own right.
00:45:09.000 And look, If you're going to have a lifestyle where you want to have the best options possible, you can't always say, you know what? 0.97
00:45:15.000 Damn, this is better than me. 0.98
00:45:15.000 I'm just going to hate. 0.98
00:45:17.000 Nah, just create from there what you can and take.
00:45:19.000 You know, one of the biggest things Rolo always says about the Red Philly is choose your own adventure. 0.92
00:45:24.000 Yeah.
00:45:24.000 It's choose your own adventure.
00:45:26.000 What do you want?
00:45:26.000 Do you want to be a player?
00:45:27.000 Do you want to be a family man?
00:45:28.000 Like you just, you can choose, but people want to be told what to do.
00:45:32.000 What to do.
00:45:33.000 Like it's like if you want to be a player, be a player. 1.00
00:45:35.000 But if you want to get bang bitches, bang bitches. 1.00
00:45:37.000 But if you want to have like, you know, I'm going to settle down now. 1.00
00:45:38.000 I've been fucking horrors. 0.73
00:45:40.000 I want to have a family now. 0.99
00:45:41.000 I want to have kids.
00:45:41.000 I want to have legacies.
00:45:42.000 You can do that.
00:45:43.000 That's the only thing that kills me about the whole thing.
00:45:45.000 When everybody's really super anti manosphere, like the gentle manosphere and all this stuff, the presumption is that it's guys trying to tell other guys how to get your notch count up.
00:45:58.000 And it's like, I think probably the vast majority of guys that I have worked with don't want to, they have no aspirations to be players.
00:46:06.000 They just, hell, some of these guys are like 30 years old and never gotten laid.
00:46:10.000 I'm sure you've encountered them.
00:46:11.000 These guys who are, Just want to get a second date.
00:46:16.000 They just want to kiss a girl.
00:46:17.000 They don't even know how to hold a girl.
00:46:18.000 They want a human connection.
00:46:20.000 They can't even talk to guys, right?
00:46:22.000 Because the social skills just simply aren't there and they're just kind of socially awkward.
00:46:26.000 They got to find some way to get back into a routine so that they can learn these skills.
00:46:32.000 And I'll tell you that that's probably one of the things that's the most underrated, underreported aspect of all of this we can talk about how the latest chick divorced her husband.
00:46:44.000 Because he suddenly became Red Pill and got brainwashed and turned into this robot, this Red Pill robot.
00:46:50.000 But you're not talking about the.
00:46:52.000 And I can point you in the direction of a comment thread I have on one of my essays for something like 1,100, 1,200 guys basically giving testimonials about how my work and the Red Pill in general has pretty much saved their lives.
00:47:06.000 You don't hear that.
00:47:08.000 And I tried to express that to Brian, Mark Fennell on the ABC Australia thing.
00:47:16.000 And just saying, like, hey, look, you know, there's much more to this than just like the loud rhetoric and people wanting to make ridiculousness out of all of this.
00:47:26.000 There's a lot more going on.
00:47:28.000 There's a lot more positivity than there is negativity going on here.
00:47:31.000 And I just think that people just are not reporting it and they're never going to because it does.
00:47:34.000 Because you know why?
00:47:36.000 Because under the new law, the new rules for social media, that doesn't play.
00:47:42.000 If I go, this guy decided to live instead of put the noose around his neck.
00:47:46.000 Guess what?
00:47:47.000 If he'd have put the noose around his neck, that would have gone viral.
00:47:50.000 But if he takes it off and he lives a better life, that doesn't go viral.
00:47:52.000 That's a good point, actually.
00:47:53.000 Yes.
00:47:54.000 Yeah.
00:47:55.000 We should all go eat.
00:47:56.000 We are at 3 15.
00:47:57.000 So I think we are good, man.
00:47:58.000 Thank you guys for coming on.
00:48:00.000 WStream, man.
00:48:01.000 This is awesome.
00:48:02.000 We are like broadcasting to so many channels on YouTube.
00:48:06.000 I think we're on nine or 10 channels right now.
00:48:09.000 This is going to be a new thing for us.
00:48:10.000 We've got to, you have to like go to multiple platforms.
00:48:13.000 Can I ask you guys to do one thing for me just to protect, just again, because they protect free speech?
00:48:17.000 You guys go to my kick right now.
00:48:19.000 Just give me one comment on kick.
00:48:21.000 Before we get out of here, I'm trying to grow my kick.
00:48:23.000 Just be again, you guys think I'm bullshitting.
00:48:26.000 Gavin Newsom gets elected to become president of the United States, and you think we are safe.
00:48:30.000 You are out of it, they will nuke all of us.
00:48:33.000 We, anybody who has anything to say, they will go completely in the opposite direction.
00:48:38.000 So, in order for us to protect our brands, I didn't understand it at first when Myron was doing it.
00:48:42.000 Now I understand it.
00:48:43.000 Please support creators on Rumble, Kick, and X. Please.
00:48:46.000 I'm not saying I love YouTube, I love Instagram, I love Facebook, and I tolerate TikTok.
00:48:52.000 But if you guys support free speech, support Kick, Rumble, and Hex, please.
00:48:57.000 Ah, okay.
00:48:57.000 Awesome.
00:48:58.000 Guys, thanks.
00:48:59.000 Have a good Memorial Day weekend.
00:49:02.000 Thank you for your service, Captain Michael Sartine.
00:49:04.000 Appreciate that.
00:49:05.000 That was actually my nickname, by the way.
00:49:06.000 Yes.
00:49:06.000 I started a new podcast called Out the Hours Podcast.
00:49:09.000 Yes.
00:49:09.000 It's a one on one setting, more intimate.
00:49:11.000 Up and roll on there, Sartine as well, and Miguel.
00:49:14.000 But basically, I'm going to have celebrities on there every week pretty much. 1.00
00:49:18.000 Really hot girls that are not wanting to come on out the hours.
00:49:21.000 And of course, close friends that have businesses that are very successful.
00:49:24.000 Teach you guys as well.
00:49:25.000 So it's an all in one podcast after work.
00:49:27.000 It's called After Hours for you to relax, learn something, get some knowledge, and have some fun.
00:49:32.000 Oh, also, the New York Post said that my program's $10,000.
00:49:37.000 Look up Men of Action, $27.
00:49:39.000 It's a $27 program.
00:49:40.000 So make sure you go check it out.
00:49:41.000 All right, guys.
00:49:42.000 Thanks for coming.
00:49:43.000 And I guess we'll see you next week.
00:49:44.000 Peace.
00:50:28.000 It is
00:51:31.000 nasty, right?
00:51:32.000 Isn't it?
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