Fresh & Fit - Rollo Tomassi Meets Couple's Intervention!

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00:05:29.000 We're here for the second episode of Couples Intervention with Roland Tomasi.

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00:08:04.000 Some guests in the building today.

00:08:05.000 I do.

00:08:05.000 Lovely couple.

00:08:06.000 Roald Tomasi.

00:08:07.000 Please tell us who you are.

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00:08:12.000 Roald Tomasi, the author of The Rational Male.

00:08:14.000 It's a five-series book, not just one book.

00:08:17.000 Thank you very much.

00:08:18.000 I've been doing this for about 20-plus years, and you guys ought to know.

00:08:21.000 I'm a friend of the show.

00:08:22.000 Long-time friend of the show.

00:08:23.000 A.K.A. Mark Wahlberg.

00:08:24.000 Yeah.

00:08:26.000 That's the first thing I said when I saw him.

00:08:28.000 And yourself?

00:08:28.000 All right.

00:08:29.000 My name's Ty Richie, 26 years old.

00:08:31.000 I'm a music artist and social media creator.

00:08:34.000 All right.

00:08:34.000 And yourself?

00:08:35.000 I'm Scarlett Vass.

00:08:36.000 I'm an actress and social media creator as well.

00:08:39.000 And today we're going to cover this couple today, the couple's intervention.

00:08:43.000 So I need to know from the very beginning, guys, how'd you meet, how old you are, and what you do for a living?

00:08:49.000 You want to go?

00:08:49.000 Yeah, you go.

00:08:51.000 So I'm 26 years old.

00:08:54.000 My name's Taylor Ritchie.

00:08:56.000 I do music for a living and also make viral TikTok videos, which are actually, ironically, on every platform.

00:09:03.000 So they're not just for TikTok.

00:09:05.000 Do you do anything else other than TikTok?

00:09:06.000 I do OnlyFans.

00:09:08.000 How was that, man?

00:09:10.000 I'm blessed.

00:09:13.000 Okay.

00:09:14.000 Do you make good money from OnlyFans?

00:09:15.000 Yeah.

00:09:15.000 Alright, awesome.

00:09:16.000 And then for yourself?

00:09:17.000 Yeah, so I'm Scarlett.

00:09:18.000 I'm an actress.

00:09:19.000 I've been on various TV shows.

00:09:21.000 And then when we moved to the US, we started doing social media, TikTok mainly.

00:09:27.000 And we have like 20 million followers now, I think, together.

00:09:30.000 Yeah, we get like a billion views a month, we calculated yesterday.

00:09:35.000 So it's our full-time job and OnlyFans as well.

00:09:39.000 And what other question was it?

00:09:41.000 Shout out to my boy Eugene as well for making this happen.

00:09:44.000 Shout out to you, bro.

00:09:45.000 Eugene! 0.97

00:09:46.000 Real quick, real quick though.

00:09:47.000 What part of our show are you guys from?

00:09:48.000 Melbourne.

00:09:49.000 Real quick, I heard a little birdie said that you guys are stepbrother, stepsister.

00:09:54.000 How does that work?

00:09:55.000 What is that?

00:09:57.000 Well, we've actually talked about this many times, but as many times as we say, oh, we explained the story, it never gets out there.

00:10:04.000 So we can tell you again.

00:10:06.000 Do you want to start?

00:10:07.000 Yeah, we moved to the US three years ago, and basically we started mingling with other social media creators, and he's like, oh, just pretend you're stepbrother, stepsis in this video.

00:10:19.000 For their video, yeah. 0.98

00:10:20.000 And I'm like, all right, fuck it, we'll do it. 0.99

00:10:21.000 It's like scripted. 1.00

00:10:22.000 That video blew up like crazy.

00:10:24.000 Because I know it's huge.

00:10:25.000 50 million views.

00:10:27.000 It's a niche of porn, yeah.

00:10:28.000 It's a huge thing, like stepbrother, stepsis.

00:10:30.000 Yeah, we didn't even know that at the time.

00:10:31.000 They were just like, oh, say this, say that, and we did.

00:10:34.000 We'd never done TikToks really before, and then it went so viral.

00:10:37.000 So then we went to other content days, and every creator was like, we want them in our videos, we want to copy it, because everyone copies each other.

00:10:44.000 So we were like, okay.

00:10:45.000 Trust me, we know how people copy.

00:10:48.000 I think I had like 10k followers on TikTok at the time.

00:10:50.000 Now I have 7 million followers.

00:10:52.000 But I was doing like random shuffling videos like I was just doing like the most random shit like just had my shirt off just doing like fuckboy shit and then one day I was like wait why don't we start just run with this and like just keep running with it yeah and then we started doing street interviews and all that stuff and then we just like blew up How'd you guys meet?

00:11:11.000 Take us back to the very beginning.

00:11:13.000 How old you were?

00:11:14.000 The first time I met her, she was actually dressed as a boy.

00:11:18.000 No cap.

00:11:18.000 Yes.

00:11:19.000 Yeah, I was dressed as a dude.

00:11:22.000 You guys met very early.

00:11:24.000 I got a little bit of your history here before.

00:11:27.000 You guys met very early in life.

00:11:28.000 Yeah, like 13.

00:11:29.000 He was 13.

00:11:30.000 I was 14 and a half, 15, just say.

00:11:32.000 And I, because I'm an actress, I just did, like, before social media was a thing.

00:11:36.000 I wish I did it back then, because I dressed as a boy, and I'd go to the mall, and I would go up to girls and hit on them as, like, a joke. 0.97

00:11:43.000 And then my friends would film it.

00:11:44.000 I wouldn't post it.

00:11:45.000 We just thought it was so funny.

00:11:46.000 And I'd be like, what's up?

00:11:47.000 My name's Carlos.

00:11:48.000 And the girls would be like, ah, like, isn't it? 0.93

00:11:50.000 What is, like, what's happening?

00:11:51.000 And it was entertaining. 0.99

00:11:52.000 So the first time I met her, I was like, this dude's weird as fuck. 0.99

00:11:55.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:11:55.000 I shook his hand like, what's up? 0.98

00:11:57.000 I literally thought it was a guy.

00:11:58.000 And then like, literally the next day, because we had like a mutual friend, and like she brought her, and then she was like, oh, this is my friend Scarlett.

00:12:05.000 And then she was like, oh, this was actually Carlos the other day. 0.99

00:12:06.000 I was like, get the fuck out of here. 1.00

00:12:08.000 Damn. 1.00

00:12:08.000 I was like, no way. 1.00

00:12:09.000 And I instantly fell in love the first time I saw her face.

00:12:12.000 Did you do like a dry run?

00:12:14.000 I used to do it in a mall to him.

00:12:15.000 Oh, like act it out?

00:12:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:12:17.000 I think that day I was power to be back.

00:12:20.000 Gonna put it on.

00:12:22.000 So it's like, we call it Aussie muzzer slang. 1.00

00:12:26.000 What the fuck? 1.00

00:12:28.000 What's up? 0.99

00:12:28.000 My name's Paolo, dude. 0.99

00:12:29.000 What you doing?

00:12:30.000 How you doing?

00:12:31.000 My name's Paolo.

00:12:31.000 Nice to meet you.

00:12:32.000 What are you up to today?

00:12:34.000 You want to come into my place and play some video games?

00:12:36.000 I would love to.

00:12:37.000 Yeah? 1.00

00:12:39.000 And that shit works. 1.00

00:12:41.000 In Melbourne, Australia. 1.00

00:12:42.000 Wow.

00:12:43.000 That's crazy.

00:12:44.000 Yeah.

00:12:44.000 So we did that.

00:12:46.000 And then he met me as me.

00:12:48.000 And he liked me.

00:12:49.000 Better than the boy, obviously.

00:12:50.000 It's weird.

00:12:51.000 I didn't even know what marriage was, the concept of marriage at that age, or what having a wife meant.

00:12:56.000 But I was just like, I'm going to marry that girl one day.

00:12:58.000 And I lived my single life for like six years.

00:13:02.000 You know, sort of friends.

00:13:03.000 We saw each other like four or five times a year.

00:13:05.000 And I had my single experiences.

00:13:07.000 And then, you know, when I was 18, 18 and a half, we worked it out, you know?

00:13:12.000 So we were best friends for like so long.

00:13:14.000 And he told me he loved me when he was 13.

00:13:17.000 But like, because I was like almost 15.

00:13:19.000 I was like, oh my God, he's a kid.

00:13:20.000 Like he's a kid.

00:13:21.000 Like it was weird.

00:13:21.000 Yeah.

00:13:22.000 Because you're older, right?

00:13:23.000 Yeah, like a year and a half.

00:13:25.000 And yeah, at the time it was strange.

00:13:26.000 So he said, I love you.

00:13:27.000 And I was like, oh, that's so cute.

00:13:29.000 Like you're 13.

00:13:30.000 And then I don't know if we were friends, but yeah, I feel like he really did love me.

00:13:34.000 And then, yeah, as we matured and got older, like one day he just kissed me when I was like 19.

00:13:42.000 And I was like, whoa, that's weird.

00:13:43.000 And then it blossomed.

00:13:45.000 So you were friends first for years and days.

00:13:47.000 Years, years.

00:13:48.000 Like he had a girlfriend, I had a boyfriend for four years in between that time.

00:13:51.000 And we were still friends.

00:13:53.000 And this is when you were in high school.

00:13:55.000 Yeah, we went at the same school.

00:13:57.000 Well, I mean, you were like 16, 18, somewhere around there.

00:13:59.000 From 13 to 19 was the time. 0.64

00:14:03.000 So you're...

00:14:04.000 Wait, hold on, hold on.

00:14:05.000 So you mean the whole time you've dated somebody else and he was too?

00:14:08.000 How'd you like...

00:14:09.000 I wasn't... 0.99

00:14:10.000 I had like a girlfriend for like five months or like some shit. 0.95

00:14:12.000 You had one, yeah. 0.99

00:14:13.000 Mm-hmm.

00:14:16.000 You know, it's funny because I always hear people say, oh yeah, I had all this experience when I was in high school.

00:14:20.000 I'm like, dude, first of all, you were like a teenager.

00:14:23.000 And then second of all, it's like, you know, for what?

00:14:26.000 For four months?

00:14:27.000 The thing is, is that I had my single experience like most 20-year-old Americans live their 20s going out clubbing.

00:14:35.000 I lived that from 14, 15, 16, 17, up to 18.

00:14:39.000 I was doing dance videos on Facebook, so I sort of had clout, and I would just be hanging with girls every day.

00:14:45.000 Okay. 0.99

00:14:46.000 And that's why I was like, there's got to be more to this shit. 0.99

00:14:49.000 This is so meaningless. 1.00

00:14:50.000 Why her over all the other girls? 0.98

00:14:52.000 And then, come on, man, you still want to smash other girls. 0.87

00:14:55.000 No. 0.61

00:14:56.000 No?

00:14:57.000 No.

00:14:57.000 Come on, bro.

00:14:58.000 We're all guys here.

00:15:00.000 I mean, guys have a natural desire to procreate.

00:15:04.000 I would agree with you. 1.00

00:15:05.000 But I figured out that once your dick's inside, every pussy feels the same. 1.00

00:15:12.000 Close your eyes. 1.00

00:15:13.000 Bro, close your eyes.

00:15:14.000 Close your eyes.

00:15:16.000 And what I knew I wanted to crave for is a genuine connection.

00:15:22.000 Energetic, spiritual, whatever you want to call it.

00:15:22.000 Okay.

00:15:24.000 Because I'll say on the show, man, the best pussy is new pussy, but I mean, shit, I mean, okay. 1.00

00:15:28.000 Let me see if I got the timeline right here. 1.00

00:15:31.000 So you met when he was 13, correct?

00:15:34.000 And then you had a girlfriend for, what, four months before you decided that you were going to have something serious with her?

00:15:40.000 I mean, that's not the chronological time order of it, but basically, when I was 16, I had a girlfriend for five months, and then outside of that, I was seeing random girls.

00:15:51.000 And how many random girls are we talking about? 1.00

00:15:53.000 I don't know.

00:15:54.000 Like, actual...

00:15:55.000 Between 16 and...

00:15:57.000 18?

00:15:59.000 I lost my virginity as soon as I turned 17.

00:16:02.000 And from 17 to when we started dating...

00:16:08.000 It was about seven months, and I probably maybe accumulated a body count of just over 20.

00:16:14.000 In seven months?

00:16:15.000 In seven months.

00:16:16.000 But before that, maybe there was like 70 encounters that weren't intercourse, if that makes sense.

00:16:21.000 Okay.

00:16:21.000 Yeah.

00:16:23.000 And then...

00:16:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:16:25.000 Am I allowed to say that?

00:16:26.000 Let's just go there.

00:16:28.000 But, interestingly enough, the first...

00:16:31.000 Three months of us dating, like, dude, I was so, like, we were both so in love. 0.96

00:16:34.000 We were, like, just kissing in the car for hours, like, all this shit. 0.98

00:16:37.000 Not even having sex yet. 0.99

00:16:39.000 And I remember she'd be like, please see other girls.

00:16:44.000 Like, she was begging me because she knew it was, like, serious. 0.99

00:16:49.000 She was, like, basically saying, get the fuck out of your system. 1.00

00:16:51.000 And I was like, nah, I already have. 1.00

00:16:52.000 Like, trust me.

00:16:53.000 Yeah, I was like, please, please, please, like, you know, I'd been in a relationship as well, so I was like, I just knew as soon as we got together, it was gonna be like a lifelong thing, and I was like, we're so young, this isn't gonna work if, like, you just need to, like, go and, like, see girls, and he wouldn't.

00:17:06.000 I was like, okay.

00:17:07.000 Alright, so let's fast forward when you guys came over to States real quick.

00:17:11.000 How old were you guys when you guys got here?

00:17:13.000 23, 25.

00:17:15.000 Yep.

00:17:15.000 24.

00:17:16.000 And then, you guys, LA? LA, Vegas.

00:17:19.000 Okay.

00:17:19.000 Are you going in between the two cities?

00:17:21.000 Well, we left LA after like a year and a half and then we moved to Vegas officially.

00:17:25.000 But now we're like considering moving to Miami.

00:17:27.000 Okay.

00:17:27.000 And then going back a little bit more.

00:17:28.000 So you guys reconnected.

00:17:29.000 You were 19 and she was about 20 years old, 21.

00:17:32.000 Yeah.

00:17:32.000 Right?

00:17:33.000 Take us through that.

00:17:34.000 So like you guys reconnected.

00:17:35.000 What stimulated you guys getting back together?

00:17:39.000 You mean after being dormant as friends and then connecting?

00:17:43.000 Where did you guys meet and how did that reignite?

00:17:46.000 Well, I broke up with my ex at the time and we were really good friends at that point.

00:17:51.000 I was sneaky.

00:17:51.000 I slid in there.

00:17:52.000 I was waiting for her to say she broke up with her boyfriend. 0.52

00:17:57.000 She didn't even know.

00:17:58.000 I planted that seed years ago.

00:18:00.000 He was there for me.

00:18:03.000 That kind of thing.

00:18:04.000 So, were you in communication?

00:18:05.000 You were talking to him the whole four years that you were with your boyfriend, right?

00:18:08.000 Yeah.

00:18:09.000 It was weird.

00:18:10.000 Come to think of it, we'd go to the movies.

00:18:12.000 What did your ex-boyfriend think of that?

00:18:13.000 Did he know?

00:18:13.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:18:14.000 What did your ex-boyfriend think of that?

00:18:16.000 He was like, oh, I was like, he's my little brother.

00:18:19.000 And he bought that?

00:18:20.000 But no, bro, she's an... 0.99

00:18:21.000 I'll tell you, she's an angel.

00:18:23.000 She genuinely believed like she was doing nothing wrong.

00:18:26.000 And I said to her now, like...

00:18:28.000 You don't have friends that are males.

00:18:30.000 Your friends are my friends, and you see them when I see them, and that's it.

00:18:34.000 You know what I mean?

00:18:34.000 Now, when you guys were having these casual encounters, right, and she had a boyfriend, etc., to be honest, did you ever make a move on her romantically?

00:18:42.000 Wait, sorry, I wasn't listening.

00:18:43.000 Sorry.

00:18:44.000 When you guys were seeing each other, while she had a boyfriend, right?

00:18:48.000 Maybe these movie dates, etc.

00:18:49.000 Did you make moves on her romantically?

00:18:51.000 Don't count.

00:18:53.000 Remember I like touched her hand that time?

00:18:54.000 You freaked out?

00:18:55.000 Yeah, you just grabbed my hand on something.

00:18:56.000 I think I like tried to like touch her hand or something.

00:18:58.000 And yeah, she was like, whoa.

00:18:59.000 But then he'd be laughing and I'd be like, oh, maybe he was joking.

00:19:01.000 I don't know.

00:19:02.000 Okay.

00:19:03.000 He was serious.

00:19:04.000 He was dead on serious.

00:19:07.000 Okay, so you made advances.

00:19:08.000 She might have not necessarily reciprocated at that time, but you made advances and you tried.

00:19:14.000 I did, yeah.

00:19:15.000 Okay, and then how would you go about...

00:19:17.000 Not in a disrespectful way, though.

00:19:19.000 There's more text, though. 0.87

00:19:19.000 You'd be like, I'm gonna lick you, and I'd be like, what does that mean? 0.87

00:19:22.000 You were just such a child. 0.98

00:19:24.000 So my thing is, how did you...

00:19:28.000 Did you conceal it from your boyfriend?

00:19:29.000 Did you just tell him straight up, I'm going to go hang out with Tay?

00:19:32.000 Like, how'd you actually, you know, because you're going to be gone for a few hours hanging out with him.

00:19:36.000 How were you able to justify or rationalize or explain that to your boyfriend?

00:19:40.000 What was your cover story?

00:19:41.000 We were friends first, remember?

00:19:42.000 Yeah, so it was like, we've been friends since we were 13.

00:19:45.000 Like, what, you want me to stop talking to him?

00:19:48.000 She had a sweet spot and a half of me.

00:19:50.000 Yes, I do.

00:19:51.000 She had a sweet spot and a half of me, which she was not conscious of, if that makes sense.

00:19:55.000 Oh, really?

00:19:56.000 So you would tell him, I've been friends with him for damn near a decade.

00:19:59.000 I'm going to go hang out with him.

00:20:00.000 Yeah, and he'd be like, oh, okay.

00:20:01.000 Like, I'd prefer if he went...

00:20:03.000 Okay.

00:20:03.000 He was clearly immature.

00:20:04.000 He was like, I'd rather you watch a movie at his house than go to the movies. 0.95

00:20:08.000 What the f...

00:20:09.000 But he said that?

00:20:10.000 Yeah, I think he said it's a known thing when guys go to the movies with girls.

00:20:13.000 Like, they hit on them.

00:20:15.000 But I'm like, okay. 1.00

00:20:15.000 Dude, shit is different. 1.00

00:20:17.000 What the hell is going on? 1.00

00:20:20.000 Australia is very different to here.

00:20:21.000 So...

00:20:23.000 It seems to me that your ex didn't like it.

00:20:27.000 He just kind of tolerated it.

00:20:28.000 Probably.

00:20:29.000 Did you make more money than your ex?

00:20:31.000 We were in school.

00:20:33.000 Okay.

00:20:33.000 But, yeah, my parents were very well off, so I guess.

00:20:36.000 Oh, actually, he's where, too.

00:20:37.000 I don't know.

00:20:37.000 We're in school.

00:20:39.000 Did he have to work really hard to get you to be his girlfriend?

00:20:42.000 No.

00:20:43.000 No?

00:20:43.000 Because it was so young.

00:20:44.000 Did you like him or not?

00:20:46.000 Let's be honest.

00:20:47.000 Yeah.

00:20:47.000 You did?

00:20:48.000 No, I really did.

00:20:49.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:20:49.000 Even though you were going out with him still?

00:20:51.000 Yeah.

00:20:52.000 Okay.

00:20:55.000 Here and there, you didn't see me every week.

00:20:58.000 We wouldn't talk for months sometimes.

00:21:00.000 Sometimes it was like 11 months we didn't speak for.

00:21:02.000 That's what I was going to ask next.

00:21:04.000 How often were you guys meeting up during the course of this four years that you were with this guy?

00:21:08.000 On and off.

00:21:08.000 When you got a girlfriend, you stopped speaking to me.

00:21:10.000 I did, yeah.

00:21:11.000 Yeah, he did.

00:21:12.000 And I was pissed.

00:21:12.000 So if we were to average it out, how often were you guys talking?

00:21:14.000 Every two months?

00:21:16.000 I guess so.

00:21:17.000 It would be like all the time for three months and then off for like four and then all the time.

00:21:23.000 We'd have like random good text combos.

00:21:25.000 Two to four times a year, it sounds like.

00:21:27.000 You guys would communicate and or meet up in person during the course of your four-year relationship.

00:21:32.000 And in that four-year relationship, was it on the whole time or you guys on and off, you and your ex?

00:21:36.000 On the whole time.

00:21:37.000 On the whole time.

00:21:38.000 Okay.

00:21:39.000 Question.

00:21:39.000 Do you believe now that men and women can just be friends?

00:21:43.000 If they're in a relationship?

00:21:44.000 Yeah.

00:21:45.000 Now I'd say it's not a good idea.

00:21:48.000 Right on the fly.

00:21:51.000 When it comes to intersexual, Mike and I will disagree on this one, but I have a different opinion than he does in this case.

00:21:58.000 Men and women can be friends, but only in a different context.

00:22:05.000 Usually I'm going to say men and women can't be friends simply because our framework or our understanding of friendship is usually based on our same-sex friends.

00:22:13.000 So you're not going to have the same quality or the same kind of friendship that you have with your bros or girls with girlfriends.

00:22:19.000 And so when a guy and a girl come together and they're like, oh, we're just platonic friends.

00:22:24.000 We just hang out.

00:22:25.000 He's my buddy. 1.00

00:22:26.000 Bullshit. 1.00

00:22:27.000 It is bullshit because what happens is guys will start to become the girlfriend. 1.00

00:22:32.000 And if you've read my book, you already know what I'm going to say, Women have boyfriends and girlfriends, and if you're not fucking her, you're her girlfriend. 1.00

00:22:40.000 So guys end up taking the role of a girlfriend because women will see that guy communicating to her as her girlfriends do. 0.87

00:22:46.000 And so her subconscious and her hindbrain kind of says, oh, well, he's communicating to me like a girl, so therefore he's now my girlfriend.

00:22:52.000 Whether he's gay or he's straight doesn't make any difference.

00:22:54.000 It's just the idea that the way that the communication and the way the relationship plays out We tend to see friendships based on what our same-sex friendships are.

00:23:03.000 And so when we have intersexual friendships, usually it's the guy who is sort of the submissive in that, meaning that he's going to tolerate and he's going to accommodate that woman's communication side and do the things that she wants, especially if the guy's interested in her.

00:23:18.000 Question for you.

00:23:19.000 So he was in a friend zone for the better part of a few years.

00:23:22.000 You had a boyfriend the whole time.

00:23:24.000 What made you flip the switch and say, you know, I'm going to give this guy a chance romantically?

00:23:28.000 Um...

00:23:30.000 Besides the opportunity, I guess, that the boyfriend broke.

00:23:32.000 Who ended that relationship, by the way?

00:23:34.000 You or the ex?

00:23:35.000 God, it was so long ago.

00:23:36.000 Me.

00:23:37.000 I think it was me.

00:23:38.000 Yeah.

00:23:38.000 For what reason?

00:23:40.000 He...

00:23:40.000 I don't want to air his dirty laundry.

00:23:42.000 It was a great relationship.

00:23:44.000 It's fine.

00:23:44.000 Nobody knows who he is.

00:23:45.000 Yeah, I feel bad if he's watching.

00:23:46.000 But he had a lot of mental health issues and I was in, we call it VCE. I don't know what you call it here.

00:23:53.000 Year 11, year 12.

00:23:54.000 And at one point my mum was like, you have to break up.

00:23:57.000 I'd be in the middle of my studies and then he'd call me like, I'm going to jump off a building.

00:24:02.000 And it was like a lot for me.

00:24:03.000 I tried to stick through it, but it got really...

00:24:06.000 Really.

00:24:06.000 So he was very emotionally erratic?

00:24:08.000 Yes.

00:24:08.000 Okay.

00:24:09.000 So besides your boyfriend being emotionally erratic, leaving him the opportunity of being single now, what made you say, you know, I'm going to give him a shot?

00:24:19.000 What also made you say that?

00:24:20.000 So, I was very hesitant at first, because I was only single after the ex for, like, what, six to nine months, was it?

00:24:27.000 And, like, we were really close, and I was like, oh, well, like, I don't know.

00:24:30.000 If I get straight into another one, I feel like I haven't seen the world.

00:24:33.000 I don't know.

00:24:34.000 But he was just there.

00:24:37.000 We...

00:24:38.000 Did you jump out of...

00:24:40.000 Did you get right out of that and then get into a relationship with him?

00:24:42.000 Was there any downtime between the two?

00:24:44.000 Six to eight months.

00:24:45.000 Six to nine months.

00:24:46.000 Nine months?

00:24:46.000 Yeah, that's why I was trying to put it off and cease other people, but we couldn't help it.

00:24:51.000 I went to Europe, and in that trip I was like, I can't spend a second not talking to this guy.

00:24:55.000 I miss him so much.

00:24:56.000 Was he a shoulder to cry on?

00:24:59.000 At first...

00:25:01.000 With my mom and my sister.

00:25:03.000 I don't necessarily think you were even, like, upset about your first relationship.

00:25:08.000 Because I was pretty annoyed at that point, yeah.

00:25:09.000 Yeah, you were just, like, sort of, like, this needs to go.

00:25:13.000 Yeah.

00:25:13.000 And just so the chat knows, guys, we're going to read, um, call it bills, what, 20 and up?

00:25:17.000 Yeah, guys, for this show, um, just because we want to make sure we get through everything.

00:25:20.000 Um, just, we'll have them ready, uh, bills will start organizing them and everything, but we'll keep going here.

00:25:24.000 Sorry, you guys were going to ask something, or?

00:25:27.000 No, real quick, so when you guys actually got together, what was your job back then?

00:25:32.000 Okay, I was finishing school, and then basically after school, I played soccer my whole life, so I quit soccer, and then I decided to get into music and manifested moving to LA, all this bullshit, and then I did.

00:25:47.000 But from 18 to 21, I was working in warehouses packing milk.

00:25:54.000 I would have gloves.

00:25:56.000 I'd come home and my gloves stank like mould.

00:25:58.000 How much did you make of mould back then?

00:26:01.000 This is in Australia, right?

00:26:02.000 Yeah, Australia.

00:26:04.000 It's $50 an hour, right?

00:26:06.000 $800 to $1,100 a week average.

00:26:09.000 So let's say $3,500.

00:26:12.000 Which is actually not a lot at all, now that I think of it.

00:26:15.000 He's making about 50k a year.

00:26:17.000 At the time, it seemed like really good money, but now I'm like, yeah.

00:26:24.000 Okay, and then what were you doing for work back then?

00:26:27.000 I was on a TV show for two years straight, a series regular role.

00:26:34.000 Called Neighbours.

00:26:35.000 So you finished school, you just went to a TV show?

00:26:38.000 No, I finished a college degree and then like a week later I landed this show and went straight on.

00:26:44.000 How did you get casted for that?

00:26:46.000 Well, I've been acting my whole life and I was auditioning throughout my college degree, you could say, and then I landed it.

00:26:53.000 Like six weeks of auditions to get in.

00:26:55.000 What's the show about?

00:26:56.000 It's a soap opera.

00:26:57.000 It's like Australian, Bold and the Beautiful, and it's big in the UK. Okay.

00:27:01.000 Huge in the UK. Huge.

00:27:02.000 Like Margot Robbie was on it, Chris Hemsworth, like, I mean, I think Chris was.

00:27:05.000 No, he was on Home and Away.

00:27:06.000 Oh, same thing.

00:27:07.000 How long did you do that for?

00:27:09.000 Two years, I was on that.

00:27:11.000 And in the meantime, trying to get my papers to be able to come here, to act over here.

00:27:14.000 So this is, I'm going to assume, this is when you guys got together, so you were around 20 to 21 when you did this?

00:27:21.000 Yeah.

00:27:21.000 And then you stopped around 23, 24?

00:27:24.000 Yeah.

00:27:24.000 Okay.

00:27:24.000 And then you said also, after you broke up with the first guy, you were single for six to nine months.

00:27:28.000 What did you do in that period of time?

00:27:31.000 What was I doing?

00:27:32.000 Was I in college then?

00:27:34.000 Europe.

00:27:35.000 I went to Europe for three weeks with my mum and my sister.

00:27:36.000 Finding myself in Europe.

00:27:38.000 It was winter.

00:27:39.000 It was like a family trip.

00:27:41.000 It wasn't a crazy let's go single trip at all actually.

00:27:44.000 But yeah, I went there for three weeks.

00:27:46.000 And was I in college then?

00:27:47.000 I think I was.

00:27:49.000 Transitioning.

00:27:50.000 No, yeah, you were.

00:27:51.000 I was in college, so I was studying.

00:27:53.000 And yeah, partying with friends.

00:27:55.000 Lots of partying with friends.

00:27:56.000 I dyed my hair purple, I guess I went.

00:27:58.000 Okay.

00:27:58.000 Where'd you travel to when you were all over Europe?

00:28:01.000 Yeah, just Italy and London, a couple other places.

00:28:06.000 Okay.

00:28:07.000 Were you seeing anyone casually throughout those six, eight months?

00:28:12.000 I kind of saw one guy, but that was it.

00:28:15.000 One.

00:28:16.000 One?

00:28:17.000 Yeah, I swear.

00:28:17.000 Okay.

00:28:18.000 Which I knew of at the time.

00:28:19.000 I was like...

00:28:20.000 Yeah, he even knew.

00:28:21.000 How do you know?

00:28:22.000 Oh, I'd tell him everything.

00:28:23.000 Yeah, I was like super...

00:28:25.000 So you guys were talking...

00:28:26.000 Yeah, because we weren't exclusive yet, you know?

00:28:28.000 So you guys were talking...

00:28:29.000 So you're back in Australia at the factory.

00:28:32.000 No, no, no.

00:28:32.000 Wait, what's the timeline here?

00:28:34.000 We're talking about when you first got together.

00:28:36.000 She's around 21.

00:28:36.000 You're 19 years old.

00:28:38.000 She's pretty much finishing up school, broke up with a guy.

00:28:41.000 Looks like maybe you guys reconnected a little bit in Australia.

00:28:43.000 Then she left for six to nine months.

00:28:45.000 No, no, no.

00:28:46.000 She only went for a couple weeks to Europe.

00:28:49.000 Okay, so for that six to nine months, I was in college.

00:28:55.000 You were in college.

00:28:56.000 And then hanging out with friends, hanging out with him still.

00:28:58.000 Okay, so you guys were seeing each other, but while you were in Europe for a few, you said a couple weeks?

00:29:02.000 Yeah.

00:29:03.000 You guys were communicating.

00:29:04.000 Oh yeah, like all day.

00:29:05.000 And he was working at, you were packing the milk, and then she was doing the actress thing. 0.89

00:29:08.000 Yeah.

00:29:09.000 And traveling.

00:29:09.000 Yeah, like when I was in Europe, my mom and sister were like, oh that bartender's so cute, he wants to ask you on a date, and trying to set me up.

00:29:16.000 And then I would just be calling him all day, like it couldn't help it.

00:29:18.000 Okay.

00:29:19.000 Question.

00:29:19.000 What's your ethnic background?

00:29:21.000 Sri Lankan and Serbian.

00:29:23.000 Okay.

00:29:24.000 Sri Lankan and Serbian.

00:29:26.000 What religion does your family practice?

00:29:28.000 They're not really that religious, but Catholic and Orthodox.

00:29:31.000 Okay.

00:29:32.000 Probably more Orthodox.

00:29:33.000 Who's Sri Lankan and who's Serbian?

00:29:34.000 Mom's Sri Lankan.

00:29:36.000 Dad's Serbian.

00:29:37.000 Okay.

00:29:37.000 And then your parents still together?

00:29:40.000 No.

00:29:41.000 Divorced?

00:29:42.000 Yes.

00:29:42.000 Okay.

00:29:43.000 How old were they when they divorced?

00:29:44.000 I was seven.

00:29:46.000 Okay.

00:29:47.000 Who did you live with mostly?

00:29:49.000 Your mom or your dad?

00:29:49.000 50-50.

00:29:51.000 Okay.

00:29:51.000 50-50, like every, like...

00:29:52.000 It was like four days, three days, and then my dad, who had us three days, also had us every second weekend.

00:29:58.000 So it was literally 50-50.

00:30:00.000 So I'm assuming your parents lived close to each other.

00:30:01.000 Yeah.

00:30:02.000 Okay.

00:30:02.000 Then what about you?

00:30:04.000 My parents?

00:30:05.000 Yeah, like your ethnic background.

00:30:06.000 So, my dad's Italian, my mom's Greek, and my parents are together.

00:30:10.000 They've been married for 36 years or something. 1.00

00:30:13.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:30:13.000 Yeah, they're amazing. 1.00

00:30:15.000 Love story.

00:30:16.000 And then you said that your family's well-off.

00:30:17.000 What does your dad do?

00:30:18.000 He has a lot of companies.

00:30:20.000 I love how you say dad.

00:30:23.000 Well, I already know.

00:30:25.000 Let's be honest here.

00:30:26.000 My dad has a gloss company.

00:30:28.000 Like, he does shower screen, splash bags.

00:30:30.000 Everything to do with gloss you can think of, he can make it.

00:30:32.000 Okay.

00:30:33.000 Cool.

00:30:35.000 Did your parents have a lot of money growing up?

00:30:38.000 No, so I had a very humble upbringing.

00:30:40.000 I lived in a very simple house, was raised with love and respect, dancing in the morning, playing soccer in the driveway.

00:30:50.000 Was your father a blue collar worker?

00:30:54.000 He had his own company with another business partner, which was doing pretty well.

00:31:01.000 I can go into the whole story.

00:31:04.000 And you have brothers and sisters?

00:31:05.000 I have two older brothers, so one that's five years older and one that's eight years older.

00:31:09.000 And you have at least one sister, I know that.

00:31:11.000 Do you have any more?

00:31:12.000 No, just one.

00:31:13.000 Older?

00:31:14.000 Older, three years older.

00:31:16.000 And then you guys, so you guys come to the United States together.

00:31:21.000 We went over that, how you guys did the whole stepbrother, stepsister thing, got 50 million views, started a blow up in that regard.

00:31:28.000 I want to cover the show, back to the show part.

00:31:31.000 To me this is interesting.

00:31:33.000 So she's on the show, you're working a regular job, two years.

00:31:37.000 Were you talking in that period of time?

00:31:39.000 Yep.

00:31:39.000 And do you like her being on the show?

00:31:42.000 I was so happy for her like obviously this is we would we would talk about our dreams like every day and this was like a huge opportunity so obviously I was ecstatic um a part of me someone said dude we're in gay what's up But no,

00:32:01.000 I was extremely happy.

00:32:03.000 But apart from those little discrepancies, like, you know, sometimes the role, which is why the acting industry sort of sucks, because there's a lot of, you know, over-the-top sexualizations on people who make, you know, Instagrams, do OnlyFans, all this,

00:32:19.000 but in the acting industry, there's more of that, I feel like. 0.99

00:32:22.000 So did you see her do scenes where you were like, yo, what the fuck? 0.99

00:32:25.000 Yeah, like, I had to, like, watch her, like, kiss other guys. 1.00

00:32:28.000 Like, I'd be there and, like, fucking shake this guy's hand and be like, okay, this is fucking weird, but I guess this is acting, right? 0.95

00:32:34.000 You know, like, it's professional. 0.98

00:32:36.000 And this is for the soap opera, to be exact, right?

00:32:38.000 The Bold and the Beautiful.

00:32:39.000 And I did another show as well, for ABC Channel as well, and that was an intense role.

00:32:47.000 What was the name of the show on that one?

00:32:49.000 The Warriors.

00:32:50.000 Okay.

00:32:50.000 And what was your role on that one?

00:32:52.000 It was about football players and I was like the one night stand sort of girlfriend thing.

00:32:59.000 Okay.

00:33:00.000 So you were, okay.

00:33:01.000 So obviously they probably put a sex scene in that show? 0.98

00:33:03.000 Yeah.

00:33:04.000 For you?

00:33:04.000 Mm-hmm.

00:33:05.000 Okay.

00:33:06.000 With Chris Hemsworth.

00:33:08.000 Then I wouldn't be upset.

00:33:11.000 So, okay, so, I mean, if it's a TV show, they probably, like, edited it.

00:33:17.000 It wasn't, like, full-on.

00:33:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:19.000 Okay, but in that scene, okay.

00:33:21.000 How did...

00:33:22.000 Did she talk to you about that before she did that scene?

00:33:26.000 Or are you guys not together at this point yet?

00:33:27.000 No, we were together.

00:33:28.000 For, like, what, two years, three years?

00:33:30.000 Were we living together, or were we just, like, dating in different places?

00:33:33.000 Living.

00:33:33.000 Living, yeah.

00:33:34.000 Okay.

00:33:34.000 Well, did she tell you about that scene?

00:33:36.000 She did, yeah.

00:33:37.000 I think we were both, like, dreading it.

00:33:39.000 She's like, oh, this is going to be so awkward.

00:33:41.000 And, bro, it's so weird because at the start of our relationship, I was actually, I don't even know how, but I was so chill. 0.99

00:33:47.000 I was like, ah, who gives a fuck? 0.99

00:33:49.000 Like, whatever. 0.99

00:33:49.000 I was more worried than you. 0.99

00:33:51.000 Yeah, but now, I would never let that slide.

00:33:54.000 Is it because you weren't where you wanted to be financially?

00:33:57.000 To be honest, if you had money, would you have thought of it?

00:34:00.000 This is the thing.

00:34:01.000 I do think that having money, it doesn't make you a man, but I think it does open up your mindset.

00:34:08.000 It certainly helps.

00:34:09.000 It definitely helps.

00:34:11.000 So at the time, she was the breadwinner at that point?

00:34:16.000 In the relationship?

00:34:17.000 Definitely.

00:34:18.000 Were you guys still filming stuff together, trying to get that...

00:34:22.000 I mean, you were getting views at this point, but I guess maybe the money didn't start hitting yet?

00:34:25.000 We weren't doing social media.

00:34:27.000 He was packing milk.

00:34:27.000 We were not doing social media at all.

00:34:29.000 Okay, you were still...

00:34:30.000 I would be recording music all day.

00:34:30.000 That's it, though.

00:34:33.000 So you're still in Australia?

00:34:35.000 Yeah, in Australia.

00:34:36.000 I'd play video games, whatever. 0.96

00:34:39.000 I was that loser.

00:34:40.000 I'd be packing milk, and she'd be at a show, and that was basically it. 0.77

00:34:45.000 And just to be clear, this was filmed in Australia, this television show, right?

00:34:48.000 It was filmed in Melbourne and everything, so you guys were still seeing each other every other day or whatever?

00:34:52.000 You guys were living, okay.

00:34:52.000 We lived together, yeah.

00:34:54.000 Rolo, can you break down how that is, for example, for a guy on the way up, having a girlfriend?

00:34:59.000 Well, she's carrying him right there.

00:35:00.000 I mean, you're a year and a half older, and he's packing milk.

00:35:04.000 And playing video games and playing music.

00:35:06.000 Nothing wrong with that, I'll give you that.

00:35:09.000 But he's not where he wants to be, right?

00:35:11.000 So as we've said before, men must become and women just are. 1.00

00:35:14.000 So this is really a good example of what you guys always say and what I've always said in my books is that it takes longer for men to mature into becoming like what their maximum, you know, you're still only 26 years old, you've still got at least another 10 years, right?

00:35:31.000 Yeah.

00:35:45.000 22, 23, yeah.

00:35:46.000 Okay, so again, peak sexual market value.

00:35:48.000 She's at the top of her game.

00:35:49.000 He's being, you know, carried by her.

00:35:51.000 And now I presume things have changed, right?

00:35:54.000 So he's, I mean, just looking at the watch and everything else, I presume you're making more money than you were when you're making milk, when you're packing milk.

00:36:01.000 So clearly you've come quite a ways since then.

00:36:04.000 So you would have been, what, 20, 21 back then?

00:36:07.000 Exactly.

00:36:08.000 So from 20 to 26, you're where you are right now.

00:36:11.000 So you keep going, and really all it is is just a confirmation of the fact that men must become and women just are. 0.97

00:36:17.000 So it takes longer for men to mature into their maximal potential.

00:36:21.000 Hopefully you do realize that.

00:36:22.000 There's probably, you've got a long way to go.

00:36:24.000 But there's that moment where, like, when women are carrying that guy, and that's... 0.88

00:36:30.000 It can be pretty dicey right there, especially if she's in the kind of position she's in, or she's an OnlyFans girl, or she's a stripper, or she's an actress, or she's anything that is in some way eroticized or sexualized, that's going to be even tougher, especially when you're making a lot.

00:36:44.000 There's no way him at that age packing milk is going to make anywhere near the amount of money that she is. 0.98

00:36:50.000 And so it's like, sometimes it's like, you either got to be really, really determined to kick ass, or else you're just going to sit there and play video games and sedate yourself. 0.91

00:36:58.000 Okay, so you're doing an acting thing or whatever.

00:37:01.000 At what point did everything shift and then you started to take on the breadwinner role?

00:37:06.000 Or at least matched up to her.

00:37:08.000 When did you start doing OnlyFans?

00:37:10.000 Well, I won the green card lottery, which is the diversity visa program.

00:37:16.000 That is tough to get, bro. 0.99

00:37:18.000 So when I got that shit, I was like, okay, I know we're meant to go. 0.99

00:37:21.000 And then, so we, I was going to LA. We were going to LA together for like three years on and off. 1.00

00:37:27.000 Like on and off, on and off, on and off.

00:37:29.000 And I would like work at this warehouse job while she's on the show. 0.97

00:37:32.000 We'd go for two weeks, then she'd go back for like a month.

00:37:35.000 I'd stay for a month and like try to make connections with people.

00:37:37.000 Yeah, I forgot about that.

00:37:38.000 We were separate.

00:37:39.000 We did like three times and then I would come back, save up more money, like save up like 20 G's.

00:37:43.000 It takes so long back then.

00:37:45.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:37:45.000 And then fucking fly back and then whatever. 0.98

00:37:48.000 But we, what was the question? 0.98

00:37:51.000 No, I was going to say, take us through what led you to start making money then.

00:37:56.000 And you're talking about how you were traveling back and forth.

00:37:58.000 So you're going back and forth.

00:37:59.000 You got a green card.

00:38:00.000 You won the lottery.

00:38:01.000 You petitioned for her to get a green card.

00:38:03.000 Well, she got it through a show, Extraordinary Visa, whatever.

00:38:05.000 Okay.

00:38:06.000 Oh, Visa or something?

00:38:07.000 No, Extraordinary Talent Green Card. 0.86

00:38:12.000 A lot of actors and athletes get it to come over and shit like that.

00:38:18.000 So you're going back and forth, you're saving money, going to LA, going to Vegas, making connections, going back, making more money, saving, and then she's going back with you periodically when she can, and then she's also acting and doing her thing in between.

00:38:31.000 I think six weeks breaks.

00:38:32.000 He'd be in LA for six weeks without me as well.

00:38:35.000 And we were like, fine.

00:38:37.000 It was sad, but we were fine.

00:38:38.000 Yeah, I hated it, honestly. 1.00

00:38:39.000 So then it was 2020, COVID happened, and we're like, Australia was shit. 1.00

00:38:44.000 We've got to get the fuck out of here. 1.00

00:38:45.000 I saw my life becoming like, just going to the fucking garbage. 0.99

00:38:49.000 And for the audience, just so they know, in Australia, no one could come in or go out during that period of time. 0.99

00:38:53.000 So at that point, did you guys just leave for good?

00:38:56.000 We left for good.

00:38:56.000 When we were allowed to get out of the country, it took a while.

00:38:59.000 We had to go through military escorts through different ports of Sydney just to get out of the country.

00:39:04.000 Locked in hotel rooms for days.

00:39:06.000 It was crazy.

00:39:06.000 Once we got to LA, I don't know, bro.

00:39:10.000 It's like everything I was manifesting my whole life just started coming through.

00:39:15.000 What was the pivotal moment?

00:39:17.000 What did you do that created that revenue stream that finally put you on an equal playing field with her?

00:39:23.000 Before we left, I had an OnlyFans account when I was sort of finishing the show because I genuinely thought it was for fans of celebrities.

00:39:32.000 Who would talk only fans.

00:39:34.000 I think that's what it was made for.

00:39:37.000 She would always tell me, you should get on this. 1.00

00:39:38.000 I'm like, what the fuck is this bullshit? 0.97

00:39:40.000 Yeah, and I was like, and they genuinely, my fans from the show, would just pay to chat to me because I was like famous, you know, like, oh yeah, and I was making, like, not much, like $1,000 a month, but like, I just thought that's what it was, so I had it there, and I kept telling him to make it, and he hadn't made one yet. 0.99

00:39:54.000 We came and we had it, but we didn't really do it.

00:39:56.000 It was just sitting there.

00:39:58.000 We didn't really know how to run the accounts.

00:39:59.000 Because you can have OnlyFans, but you can not make money very easily unless you know what you're doing or if you know the formula.

00:40:05.000 And so we got here.

00:40:06.000 We started working this bar job.

00:40:09.000 And it was the only place open in LA at the time.

00:40:13.000 It was called the Berkshire House.

00:40:15.000 And it was the it spot.

00:40:16.000 And I'd never worked at a bar before.

00:40:18.000 And then I got him the job.

00:40:19.000 And we were making crazy tips.

00:40:21.000 Yeah, we were like a power team.

00:40:22.000 Like thousands and thousands of nights.

00:40:24.000 You were a bartender and you were, both of y'all bartenders?

00:40:26.000 I actually, there was no male bartenders or waiters or whatever. 0.98

00:40:30.000 I was doing the running shit. 0.97

00:40:32.000 Yeah, and then my friends were like, but he's so hot, can't he serve bottles like the bottle girls? 0.99

00:40:37.000 And they were just like, no, but all the girls loved him.

00:40:40.000 And so he got the bottle job too.

00:40:41.000 So we're both serving bottles and he'd do the girl tables and I'd do the guy tables.

00:40:44.000 So then at that, when we were at this job, As soon as we moved to LA, we basically got this job after a couple months, and we were making sometimes like 9k cash every weekend together. 0.98

00:40:57.000 Yeah, it was fucking bad.

00:40:58.000 But at the same time, we had our social media and we had OnlyFans, but it wasn't until we went to this content day, that day that that video went viral, that we said, well, if we're going viral on everyone else's channel, why don't we try it ourselves? 0.90

00:41:10.000 This is the sepsis or sepbrother one?

00:41:11.000 50 million?

00:41:11.000 Yeah.

00:41:12.000 Okay.

00:41:12.000 Yeah.

00:41:13.000 And then we went on everyone's channel and every time we'd go on someone's channel it just blew up.

00:41:19.000 So it might not be a coincidence, it might be us.

00:41:22.000 So we created our own and we went out one day and we started interviewing people on the street, both of us, and from the second we posted that first video each, That was it.

00:41:31.000 It was like our thing, yeah.

00:41:33.000 So then we were doing that.

00:41:34.000 We'd film for like four hours a day.

00:41:36.000 We'd go work at the night job for eight hours.

00:41:38.000 We'd go home at 3am.

00:41:39.000 Go to sleep.

00:41:40.000 Wake up.

00:41:41.000 Like, go work out.

00:41:42.000 And then just do it all on repeat.

00:41:43.000 We did that for like six months.

00:41:44.000 Working day and night, yeah.

00:41:45.000 And then by the time we were working...

00:41:46.000 I think we were working at the job for five months.

00:41:47.000 Yeah.

00:41:48.000 And then we were doing OnlyFans this whole time.

00:41:50.000 They were at the job.

00:41:51.000 And I think at the time I was earning like 15k a month.

00:41:55.000 And then we both were.

00:41:56.000 We're like, should we quit this job?

00:41:58.000 Like, is that enough to quit this job?

00:42:00.000 And we're like... 1.00

00:42:00.000 We're like, fuck it, yeah. 1.00

00:42:02.000 Let's just do it. 1.00

00:42:02.000 Maybe we'll make more if we quit. 1.00

00:42:03.000 We didn't know if we could make more.

00:42:04.000 And then when we quit, we just went crazy.

00:42:07.000 Then it became social media and OF. 15K separately or by yourself?

00:42:12.000 15 separately.

00:42:14.000 I was more on five.

00:42:15.000 Then this is from the bar.

00:42:16.000 No, no, no.

00:42:17.000 That was on OFY at the bar.

00:42:18.000 Oh, while you were at the bar.

00:42:19.000 He was making more of an OF. That was in the background, you know?

00:42:21.000 I wasn't even taking it seriously.

00:42:21.000 Okay, okay.

00:42:23.000 I was just, like, just posting videos, going to work.

00:42:25.000 He had some people, like, give him, like, ideas of how to do it, and he was making 15.

00:42:28.000 I was only making five.

00:42:29.000 I didn't know what the hell I was doing.

00:42:30.000 No, I had no idea.

00:42:31.000 Is that the first point where it finally shifted, where he was making more than you, pretty much, in the relationship?

00:42:35.000 Yeah, for that period of months.

00:42:37.000 Okay, and this is in 2020, 2021 at this point?

00:42:37.000 Wow.

00:42:40.000 Two and a bit years ago, so yeah.

00:42:43.000 2021.

00:42:44.000 So that was the transition.

00:42:45.000 And then you guys continue to make content, street interviews, OnlyFans, you quit the club or the bar at this point, full-time on social media, start and you're able to scale up, make more money, and then you guys decide to get married.

00:42:45.000 That was the transition.

00:43:00.000 We got married two months ago.

00:43:01.000 Okay. 1.00

00:43:01.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:43:02.000 Two months ago. 1.00

00:43:03.000 Yeah, in Mykonos.

00:43:04.000 Okay.

00:43:05.000 Did she pressure you to get married?

00:43:08.000 I would say it's a woman's, probably, direct, like, a very direct inclination to want to rush a man. 1.00

00:43:18.000 But I would say it was always under my discretion.

00:43:22.000 I don't think I've ever brought it up, though.

00:43:24.000 I mean, I could tell you wanted to, but if I was like, we're not getting married until 15 years after, she would have waited.

00:43:30.000 But for me, I knew I always wanted to marry her, but I wanted to delay the process as much as possible because I wanted to enjoy her as my girlfriend.

00:43:39.000 You know what I mean?

00:43:40.000 Like at the right time.

00:43:41.000 Did you guys get married here in America or did you go back to Australia?

00:43:44.000 I mean, like the paperwork.

00:43:44.000 Oh, in Greece?

00:43:45.000 We did in the US. We did in Vegas like two weeks ago.

00:43:49.000 Yeah.

00:43:49.000 Okay.

00:43:50.000 Nice.

00:43:51.000 So you guys had the ceremony in Greece, but it's official here in the United States through Vegas.

00:43:56.000 Yeah.

00:43:56.000 You guys went to the courtroom.

00:43:58.000 Religious ceremony in Greece and then yeah, legal here.

00:44:00.000 Legal in Greece at the time and then here.

00:44:03.000 Okay.

00:44:04.000 So what is like the main, I guess, now that we kind of understand somewhat like a summary of your history and everything else like that.

00:44:09.000 What is the main contention, I guess, for your guys' relationship where you guys have disagreeable points?

00:44:17.000 Issues.

00:44:18.000 Can I clear one thing up?

00:44:20.000 What are you guys doing on OnlyFans now?

00:44:23.000 Do you want to subscribe?

00:44:24.000 No, I don't.

00:44:26.000 The girls on Access Vegas ask me the same thing.

00:44:29.000 Do you want to subscribe?

00:44:30.000 No, I don't.

00:44:31.000 Just so I can clarify what your relationship dynamic is.

00:44:34.000 Well, I'm never on his because of his demographic.

00:44:38.000 I don't think they'd want me on there, really.

00:44:40.000 Wait, wait.

00:44:40.000 That'd be weird.

00:44:42.000 Do you sell feet pics or something?

00:44:44.000 No. 0.99

00:44:45.000 His demographic is going to be homosexual men. 1.00

00:44:47.000 Yes. 0.98

00:44:48.000 That's why.

00:44:49.000 Yeah.

00:44:49.000 The only thing that propels a male to subscribe to a male or female is testosterone.

00:44:55.000 So, no female, I have maybe 5 or 10% females, but no female is going to subscribe to a man because they do not have testosterone.

00:45:02.000 They don't want to come like that.

00:45:02.000 Do you know what's crazy?

00:45:03.000 He was making more than her at the beginning.

00:45:05.000 That's wild, bro.

00:45:06.000 Yeah, like I said. 0.96

00:45:07.000 From gay dudes. 1.00

00:45:08.000 What the fuck? 1.00

00:45:09.000 Well, I mean, he's... 1.00

00:45:10.000 Apparently, I look gay.

00:45:12.000 I don't know.

00:45:14.000 Well, he's relating something that, like, Sterling Cooper has said before.

00:45:17.000 It's like, you know, Sterling is very much heterosexual, but, like, when he does Only Fans Read...

00:45:22.000 Well, when he used to, anyways, when he was... 0.95

00:45:23.000 Because he's a porn star, right?

00:45:25.000 Got him a very strong male following, and he's like, you know I'm heterosexual, right? 0.81

00:45:25.000 His... 0.81

00:45:29.000 But that's the...

00:45:30.000 But that's where the money...

00:45:31.000 It is. 1.00

00:45:32.000 Damn. 1.00

00:45:33.000 And gay dudes have way more expensive income than most other social men. 1.00

00:45:35.000 That is true. 0.94

00:45:36.000 That's true.

00:45:37.000 They make more money.

00:45:38.000 Do you know why that is?

00:45:39.000 Because I believe that's true.

00:45:40.000 Because they don't deal with women. 1.00

00:45:41.000 I actually had a conversation about this with a guy who was gay. 0.78

00:45:41.000 Yeah. 0.78

00:45:45.000 And he was telling me...

00:45:47.000 He's with value.

00:45:49.000 I forget his name.

00:45:49.000 Shout out to him.

00:45:50.000 Nice guy, though.

00:45:51.000 He was saying how...

00:45:53.000 An average gay guy versus an average heterosexual guy, the average gay guy has a higher net worth. 0.67

00:45:58.000 But when you think about it practically, it's like they don't have to worry about dating women.

00:46:02.000 They're just getting on Grindr.

00:46:04.000 The whole dating process is way cheaper, way less investment.

00:46:07.000 And if they do go and date, typically things are going to be 50-50.

00:46:12.000 They're able to focus on work more.

00:46:14.000 They don't have children.

00:46:15.000 The pressure of having a family.

00:46:17.000 All these things drain you financially, so they don't have any of those things. 0.97

00:46:20.000 If you look at all the major cities, like the nice areas, that are affluent, that cost a lot of money to live in, dominated by gay people. 1.00

00:46:26.000 Miami Beach, Austin, Texas, San Francisco, New York City.

00:46:29.000 All the places that are going through gentrification, from a real estate investor perspective, too, for me.

00:46:33.000 Anytime gay do start to move into my neighborhood, I'm happy, because my property value is going to go up. 1.00

00:46:38.000 Because they're good tenants.

00:46:40.000 So less expenses and less time to waste on women, basically. 1.00

00:46:46.000 Yes, because women typically are liabilities in most situations. 1.00

00:46:49.000 When I was working in wine and spirits, when I was working in the liquor industry, the homosexual market was a completely different animal than if you're marketing to women as well, because homosexuals have more disposable income. 1.00

00:47:00.000 So you can do top shelf brands to homosexual markets. 0.88

00:47:04.000 Yeah.

00:47:04.000 I want to see what the chat's saying real quick.

00:47:06.000 Yeah, we can read the chats and everything else like that.

00:47:08.000 But yeah, no, they just have more expensive income, man.

00:47:10.000 It's just a fact.

00:47:12.000 Let's see here.

00:47:12.000 We got...

00:47:13.000 Okay, Derek the Trader goes...

00:47:16.000 Fresh, can you read this real quick?

00:47:17.000 An off-model slash twit streamer named Amaroff recently launched a beer made for her vaginal yeast. 0.84

00:47:23.000 The mother of simps that allowed this to happen must be legendary.

00:47:25.000 What do you guys think?

00:47:27.000 Wait, what?

00:47:28.000 I don't get it.

00:47:29.000 I love how it's allowed this to happen.

00:47:31.000 No, they caused it to happen. 0.97

00:47:34.000 I told y'all Sims fuck everything up, man. 0.98

00:47:38.000 Yeah, Sims fuck everything up, bro. 0.97

00:47:38.000 That's weird, bro. 0.97

00:47:40.000 You should know that.

00:47:41.000 What else we got here?

00:47:42.000 Oh, my days.

00:47:44.000 Oh, my days.

00:47:45.000 FNF team and Rolo, what's up?

00:47:46.000 Shannon Sharp told Ochocinco he would rather choose OF Miss Nasty B instead of a 39-year-old virgin actress, Yvonne Orch. 0.76

00:47:52.000 As high-value men yourself, could you break this down?

00:47:55.000 His thinking behind this?

00:47:56.000 Thank you.

00:47:57.000 Not on today's...

00:47:58.000 Maybe on another episode, my friend.

00:48:00.000 I don't know who these people are.

00:48:00.000 We want to stay focused.

00:48:02.000 Respect to you guys and all that you do.

00:48:03.000 What message do you have for my brother who takes back a chick after she cheated? 1.00

00:48:06.000 He's an idiot. 1.00

00:48:07.000 Very simple. 1.00

00:48:08.000 Like, why?

00:48:08.000 Yeah, why are you taking back a woman that cheated on you?

00:48:10.000 You're optionless, that's why.

00:48:11.000 I cannot wait until you smack the taste out of a particular YouTuber's mouth, but until then, can you please touch up on Tyrese and Samantha Lee's situation?

00:48:18.000 She's giving dating advice after she apparently did them dirty. 1.00

00:48:20.000 Big up my way, big up, Rolo.

00:48:21.000 We'll probably cover the Tyrese situation on another episode, so don't worry, guys.

00:48:24.000 She needs money, bro. 0.74

00:48:25.000 That's what it is.

00:48:26.000 She needs money now. 1.00

00:48:26.000 She needs money, yeah. 1.00

00:48:27.000 She's realizing that she's fucked up. 0.99

00:48:28.000 She's sorry now. 0.99

00:48:29.000 I know what the problem is.

00:48:30.000 She want to pull a length, lean on the plug, and get drilled by BBC on Cam to take her career to the next level. 1.00

00:48:35.000 Sorry, TikTok boy, but my boy Fresh gonna help your girl with that. 0.99

00:48:38.000 What's that? 0.56

00:48:40.000 A while back, you said that you would never have lesbians on the show ever again. 1.00

00:48:45.000 What the hell is up with tonight? 0.97

00:48:46.000 One time exception?

00:48:48.000 This guy. 1.00

00:48:51.000 Talent skill, mindless fucks. 1.00

00:48:53.000 Who chose this bullshit, Maren? 1.00

00:48:54.000 You better be charging up. 1.00

00:48:55.000 Protect Maren at all costs.

00:48:56.000 Hey man, bro, you gotta listen.

00:48:58.000 Screen the couple's better.

00:48:59.000 Obviously, a cloud chasing couple here. 0.97

00:49:00.000 It's a farm.

00:49:00.000 The Sims to sub to their OF. I genuinely believe there's no man that considers a woman's wife would do OF with her.

00:49:05.000 L, we're gonna have a discussion on that.

00:49:07.000 Dude, we just said that the gay guys are watching this OS. Yeah, that's what it is. 1.00

00:49:13.000 Okay, so, and then Twitch?

00:49:15.000 Twitch.

00:49:16.000 What about Twitch?

00:49:17.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:49:18.000 Kill Twitch, Facebook. 0.96

00:49:19.000 Guys, come on over to YouTube and Rumble, man.

00:49:21.000 Fresh to Fit on YouTube or Rumble.

00:49:23.000 Rumble.com slash Fresh to Fit.

00:49:24.000 Okay, so, yes.

00:49:27.000 Okay, so you guys, what is the main, I guess, thing that causes issues for you guys?

00:49:34.000 Obviously, you guys are in the limelight.

00:49:35.000 You guys are pretty famous.

00:49:36.000 What causes issues for you guys?

00:49:38.000 Does OF ever mess up your relationship or have issues that come up?

00:49:42.000 I think without communication and without goals, just clarity, it would, but it doesn't.

00:49:52.000 Yeah, as long as we're communicating all the time.

00:49:55.000 Nah, not at all.

00:49:56.000 I would say no.

00:49:57.000 I would say the only way it is detrimental to us is that we work too much.

00:50:03.000 And we're always like, what did you sell today?

00:50:08.000 How did you word it?

00:50:09.000 What was the price?

00:50:10.000 Let me learn off you today.

00:50:12.000 Can you film this for me here?

00:50:12.000 Film this, film this.

00:50:15.000 Just maybe not relaxing so much, always...

00:50:18.000 Being opportunistic, I guess.

00:50:19.000 So her demographic is guys.

00:50:21.000 Do you see her chats with the guys and videos that she sends or no?

00:50:24.000 Yeah, we laugh at it. 1.00

00:50:26.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:50:27.000 Yeah, I mean, yeah. 1.00

00:50:29.000 Would you give up your OF and your social media platform for him?

00:50:38.000 If he wanted me to, I don't think he'd ever say it, but if he...

00:50:40.000 If it really came down to it, and we had to, or it was really going to affect the relationship, yeah.

00:50:47.000 Especially now.

00:50:48.000 I mean, we've made enough.

00:50:49.000 It'd just be great at that point.

00:50:52.000 I'd rather him over money, so yeah.

00:50:54.000 So, I'm just curious.

00:50:55.000 Are you cool with guys looking at her in that way?

00:50:58.000 I believe that males...

00:51:02.000 Sexualized women based off their insatiable thirst that they have and they place... 1.00

00:51:08.000 Agreed.

00:51:09.000 Yeah, they make women be inquisitive because of women start to realize what they can get from a man and they're like, oh, this is cool. 0.68

00:51:19.000 Honestly, I would rather...

00:51:21.000 This is what I think.

00:51:22.000 She's sexy. 1.00

00:51:24.000 I'm sexy.

00:51:25.000 We're on a platform, and if people want...

00:51:28.000 People are going to sexualize us regardless. 1.00

00:51:29.000 Like, if she walks down the street, people are going to hit on her. 0.91

00:51:32.000 And I'm cool with that.

00:51:33.000 And there's complete trust in that area.

00:51:37.000 So, it's not a problem at all.

00:51:40.000 Has things changed since, like, you've only been married for, like, what, two months now?

00:51:44.000 Yeah.

00:51:44.000 Has things changed, has a dynamic changed since you guys are now, like, you know, official?

00:51:51.000 No?

00:51:52.000 I forget.

00:51:53.000 I feel like it's the same, but what do you think?

00:51:54.000 I think it's exactly the same, like, our routine and, like, what we do with each other and whatever, but I feel like, in my head, I'm like, okay, I want to start a family with her.

00:52:03.000 You know, we both want to start a family.

00:52:04.000 So when we do that...

00:52:07.000 I would prefer for us, I feel like, yeah, I think we're done with OF. It's like not something I want to be doing as a father.

00:52:13.000 You know what I mean?

00:52:14.000 Or it's not something I would want her to be doing as a mother. 0.80

00:52:17.000 So is she gonna give it up and you're gonna just continue to be the...

00:52:20.000 I'm assuming, are you the primary earner right now or you guys split everything 50-50?

00:52:25.000 We have bank accounts together.

00:52:27.000 We earn the same.

00:52:29.000 If she gave it up, would you guys have to decrease your...

00:52:33.000 How do I say this?

00:52:35.000 Level of living?

00:52:36.000 If she were to drop everything that she did and you would just rely on your income? 0.95

00:52:42.000 For the past two years, we've accumulated enough for it.

00:52:47.000 We don't have to work for the rest of our lives.

00:52:51.000 You're both on OnlyFans, correct?

00:52:53.000 Now, you said that when you started OnlyFans, it was because you're a celebrity and people want to talk to you.

00:52:57.000 Has that OnlyFans content changed since then?

00:53:00.000 Are you now more sexualized as a result?

00:53:02.000 Yeah, it definitely progressed.

00:53:05.000 It's not necessarily the more you do, the more money you make.

00:53:09.000 It can, but we study this.

00:53:12.000 It's a formula.

00:53:12.000 It really is.

00:53:13.000 And so we started an OnlyFans agency, Cream the Agency.

00:53:16.000 We have people who make more who do less than those who do porn.

00:53:22.000 I don't necessarily do porn, but I do make more than those who usually do.

00:53:28.000 So it's not necessarily...

00:53:29.000 She's talking about those full-blown porn stars you've seen.

00:53:32.000 They're making that ahoyego phase. 1.00

00:53:34.000 They've got cum dripping out of their mouth and shit. 1.00

00:53:37.000 So this is kind of a unique situation because usually when I'm talking to a married couple and they both do OnlyFans, they have one OnlyFans account and they're fucking each other on OnlyFans as opposed to having two separate ones and then you have a different demographic than she does, 1.00

00:53:52.000 most definitely.

00:53:52.000 So that's why I was kind of curious about that because if you both have...

00:53:57.000 OnlyFans as your primary source of income, if one of those goes down, does your lifestyle then change as a result of that?

00:54:05.000 Can I answer?

00:54:06.000 Yeah.

00:54:07.000 We live a really humble lifestyle.

00:54:10.000 I can tell.

00:54:10.000 I went through this whole phase when we moved to the US for four months.

00:54:17.000 I was meditating, doing breath work, having cold showers. 1.00

00:54:21.000 And I was just like, fuck. 0.99

00:54:22.000 This is the first time in my life I'm... 0.99

00:54:24.000 Because I still technically was broke.

00:54:26.000 We had like 50k each that we saved up.

00:54:28.000 This is the first time in my life I'm actually happy.

00:54:31.000 To have nothing.

00:54:32.000 I don't have any desires, no cravings, no attachment, you know, to money, to my music career, anything.

00:54:37.000 And that is when everything started coming, and then money's just like, oh, now it's a bonus.

00:54:42.000 Like, oh, I'm gonna buy a nice car because I can.

00:54:44.000 It doesn't provide me internal happiness, but, you know, it's fun to drive a fast whip.

00:54:49.000 But if I don't have to have it, I'm cool, you know?

00:54:52.000 Who's the primary decision-maker with anything serious?

00:54:59.000 Yeah, I would say her.

00:55:00.000 Is there anything that she does that bothers you?

00:55:06.000 Be honest.

00:55:08.000 Bothers me.

00:55:10.000 Sometimes when I'm in the shower and she's in another room, she'll ask me questions thinking I can hear her. 1.00

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00:55:23.000 And it gives me anxiety, bro.

00:55:24.000 What'd you say, babe?

00:55:25.000 I can't hear you.

00:55:26.000 I'm trying to decipher the words.

00:55:29.000 You agree?

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00:56:48.000 Okay, so she's the primary decision maker for anything serious.

00:56:52.000 Would you say she also leads the relationship as well?

00:56:55.000 I wouldn't say primary decision maker.

00:56:57.000 I would just say that I'm not going to make...

00:57:02.000 She or me is not going to make an informed decision without the other person's opinion.

00:57:07.000 Of course, of course.

00:57:08.000 But there's got to be...

00:57:10.000 I mean, unless you...

00:57:11.000 Is she the final decision maker or seem like she's the final decision maker?

00:57:13.000 Like, she'll listen to what you gotta say or whatever, but at the end of the day, someone's gotta be the one to make the final decision.

00:57:18.000 I feel like, I don't know, if you're, like, looking for an Airbnb or something, like, she'll look for it, and then she'll be like, which one?

00:57:23.000 I'm like, oh, let's do this one.

00:57:24.000 So you do the final, but I do the searching.

00:57:27.000 I guess you'd say.

00:57:28.000 I mean, for serious stuff though, not like an Airbnb for vacation.

00:57:30.000 Let's say we're moving to a different country.

00:57:31.000 Yeah, we're moving somewhere else.

00:57:32.000 Or we're going to buy this house.

00:57:34.000 I think that's why it works is because we compromise on everything and we want to make sure that we both want to do whatever the decision is.

00:57:44.000 Us moving to the USA, I think I sparked that.

00:57:49.000 Yeah.

00:57:49.000 Definitely.

00:57:49.000 Who compromises more on decision making, you or her?

00:57:53.000 Who compromises more?

00:57:54.000 Yeah.

00:57:58.000 I like to make her happy.

00:57:59.000 Okay.

00:57:59.000 So you do it for her happiness sometimes?

00:58:02.000 Okay.

00:58:03.000 You're more chill, it seems like?

00:58:05.000 Yeah, I mean, I feel like without her, I would probably be too much of a floater.

00:58:11.000 Okay. 0.99

00:58:12.000 Whereas, yeah, I'm creative, I do my shit, and I work, but I need her to be like, did you renew your fucking license? 1.00

00:58:22.000 But in the back of my head, I'm like, oh, I don't care if it expires. 0.99

00:58:25.000 You know what I mean?

00:58:25.000 Stuff like that.

00:58:26.000 She keeps me grounded.

00:58:28.000 Is it because she's older?

00:58:30.000 I think it's her instinctual nature as a woman to be nurturing.

00:58:39.000 Interesting.

00:58:40.000 Very, very interesting.

00:58:42.000 It's a weird couple, man.

00:58:44.000 It's different.

00:58:45.000 It's interesting.

00:58:46.000 It seems to me like there's really no issues besides her talking to you while you're in the shower.

00:58:56.000 Do you have any issues with me?

00:58:57.000 How can we work on this?

00:58:59.000 What about you?

00:59:03.000 I know what you hate about me.

00:59:04.000 What?

00:59:06.000 Like sometimes I'm like really...

00:59:08.000 Loud.

00:59:08.000 Oh.

00:59:09.000 I was gonna say like heartless.

00:59:11.000 Oh yeah.

00:59:12.000 I like empathy for people like a lot sometimes.

00:59:14.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:59:14.000 Like deep down he's a really like soft person and cares about people but like he'll act like oh I don't give a fuck. 0.98

00:59:19.000 Fuck them. 1.00

00:59:21.000 Has anyone ever cheated before? 1.00

00:59:23.000 In our relationship?

00:59:24.000 Yeah.

00:59:24.000 No.

00:59:25.000 Is it closed on both your guys ends?

00:59:27.000 Closed?

00:59:27.000 Like, it's a closed relationship?

00:59:28.000 Like, you don't talk to other women? 0.88

00:59:29.000 No, not at all.

00:59:30.000 Completely monogamous.

00:59:31.000 Completely monogamous.

00:59:32.000 Which I feel like is more common in Australia.

00:59:34.000 I don't know, just putting that there.

00:59:35.000 If you wanted other women, what would you say? 0.96

00:59:38.000 Hell no.

00:59:38.000 She'd leave.

00:59:38.000 You wouldn't allow it?

00:59:39.000 No.

00:59:40.000 But vice versa too, obviously.

00:59:42.000 Like, why are we married?

00:59:43.000 Why are we together?

00:59:44.000 Has getting married changed anything in your relationship?

00:59:48.000 Like, from before?

00:59:51.000 It makes me appreciate her more.

00:59:53.000 Yeah, be more just that level of seriousness.

00:59:55.000 I have no idea why, but it's a title.

00:59:58.000 I mean, yeah, it's legal.

01:00:00.000 Yeah, it's real.

01:00:02.000 I don't know.

01:00:02.000 I sort of wake up in the morning now and I'm like, I think I was more selfish before we're married.

01:00:06.000 I wouldn't really ask, like, see if she wanted shit. 0.96

01:00:08.000 Yeah, you have been more like, yeah. 0.99

01:00:10.000 Now I want to make her happier more than myself lately.

01:00:13.000 But it's a title though.

01:00:14.000 It's not anything like different.

01:00:16.000 I agree.

01:00:17.000 It's weird.

01:00:17.000 Are you guys trying to have kids?

01:00:18.000 Yeah.

01:00:19.000 Not right now.

01:00:20.000 No?

01:00:20.000 Not this moment.

01:00:21.000 Do you have plans, too?

01:00:23.000 Yeah.

01:00:23.000 Well, you're 28, right?

01:00:24.000 Well, she does.

01:00:25.000 Yeah.

01:00:27.000 It's more that everyone in Australia has kids right now, like all our friends and all his brothers, and my sister just had one, and it's like, oh, it'd be nice for the kids to grow up at the same age, and that kind of thing.

01:00:37.000 When do you think you want to have kids?

01:00:38.000 In the next couple of years, like before 30.

01:00:40.000 30.

01:00:41.000 How many?

01:00:43.000 Oh.

01:00:43.000 See, I always said five, but then I'm like, I can't really talk until I have one.

01:00:47.000 Yeah.

01:00:49.000 If you're going to have five, you should have had them like five years ago.

01:00:53.000 A good two.

01:00:54.000 But then his mom had him at 37, and she's got three.

01:00:57.000 Three of them.

01:00:58.000 Yeah, but that's extremely rare.

01:01:00.000 And the chances, you know, you never know how many times they try and everything else like that.

01:01:05.000 But do you guys have anything?

01:01:06.000 Because I have something that I'm pretty much going to come to my conclusion here.

01:01:12.000 How do you think that having kids is going to affect what you do now, as far as OnlyFans is concerned?

01:01:19.000 You were saying, I don't know if I'm going to be a really good father if I'm hustling gay pictures on OnlyFans. 1.00

01:01:26.000 Especially if you've got sons and stuff like that.

01:01:27.000 How is that going to affect?

01:01:29.000 And the reason I'm asking this is because would you be able to to do something else besides only fans if that was no longer an option for you to do because because you have kids like what would you what would you do if you weren't doing what you're doing right now Well,

01:01:44.000 I think I'd tap back into my acting.

01:01:46.000 The industry's kind of whack right now.

01:01:48.000 Everyone's on strike.

01:01:49.000 But my main incentive was to make enough money to be able to direct and produce my own films so I don't have to worry about other directors, producers and situations, casting, I can just produce my own stuff.

01:02:01.000 So for me, it's producing my own content, making films.

01:02:05.000 And then when it comes to social media, I feel like opportunities are endless.

01:02:10.000 What I would say for me is it would be nice to make...

01:02:15.000 Because we don't just make videos online just to direct subscribers. 0.91

01:02:21.000 We also make videos like giving kids money and funny jokes, pranks, all that shit. 0.94

01:02:27.000 So like... 0.99

01:02:28.000 It would be really nice to not have the nuisance of having to be like, oh fuck, I need to make this video where I'm acting a little bit more sexual, like have my shirt off or something. 0.93

01:02:39.000 I would just like to not do that and just be more fitness-related rather than... 0.94

01:02:44.000 Because it does.

01:02:45.000 It turns the straight people, the straight fans, don't want to look up to a guy who's always acting a little zesty, you know? 0.98

01:02:58.000 I know that, but I know when I act a certain way or make a certain type of video, fuck it gets more views. 0.98

01:03:05.000 I'll be honest with you bro, I'll keep it a thousand with you. 0.98

01:03:08.000 You're probably never going to be able to transition back the other way. 0.98

01:03:10.000 Because you're always going to be looked at as that gay looking dude. 0.96

01:03:14.000 So I'm just going to give it to you guys raw. 0.77

01:03:18.000 I hope you guys are prepared.

01:03:19.000 Are you guys prepared?

01:03:20.000 Because I'm going to be very honest here about everything that I've...

01:03:22.000 Because I've been taking notes, listening in, all this other stuff.

01:03:25.000 So I'm just going to keep it a million with you guys.

01:03:28.000 For you, as far as trying to transition back from the... 0.86

01:03:33.000 Because obviously you make content that goes to a certain audience, right?

01:03:36.000 The homosexual demographic, which has a lot of expendable income, very lucrative, right? 1.00

01:03:40.000 And then you also do the other content as well.

01:03:41.000 But let's be honest here, the predominant... 0.99

01:03:44.000 People that are paying and subscribing are gay guys. 0.79

01:03:47.000 So it's gonna be very difficult to transition back out of that with the amount of notoriety and views that you have going in that niche.

01:03:55.000 I disagree, I'll tell you why, but go.

01:03:58.000 And the reason why is because if you're gonna cultivate a male audience, Men are real big on respect, and they want to be able to look up to you and be like, alright, you've accomplished certain things, you have a certain background.

01:04:11.000 Men value competence in the people that they follow.

01:04:14.000 They really value that.

01:04:15.000 So they're going to look at it like, okay, you used to basically do gay for pay, I'm not going to take this guy seriously. 0.99

01:04:21.000 Now, are there guys that are going to still want your content, whatever, if you transition and do a rebrand?

01:04:24.000 For sure.

01:04:25.000 Absolutely.

01:04:26.000 But it's going to be an uphill battle.

01:04:29.000 I'm not saying you can't do it, it's just going to be tough.

01:04:30.000 It's going to be really tough to rebrand.

01:04:32.000 The thing is, I don't see it as transitioning.

01:04:34.000 I see it as I have multiple audiences where different videos attain different types of followers.

01:04:41.000 Of course.

01:04:42.000 I did the calculations, and out of 11 million followers, I have 0.5% of those people subscribe to my OnlyFans.

01:04:49.000 You know what I mean?

01:04:50.000 0.5%.

01:04:51.000 When we go on the street, the people that run up to him are actually like, kids, they have 11.

01:04:56.000 I'm not saying you can't do it. 0.99

01:04:58.000 I'm just saying it's going to be very difficult because if you want a male audience, and I know this because our audience is mostly male, they value competence and they want to be able to look up to you and be like, alright, this guy's a shape, this guy's a shit together. 0.96

01:05:09.000 He did real shit beforehand being on YouTube or being a creator. 0.97

01:05:12.000 I like this guy. 0.99

01:05:13.000 So I'm not saying you can't overcome that.

01:05:14.000 I'm just saying it's going to be an uphill battle a little bit, especially coming from the G4P. I've seen guys successfully do it though, right?

01:05:20.000 Doing the G4P. You have seen it.

01:05:22.000 I've seen guys successfully come back, yeah, from the G4P. But of course it'll be hard, yeah.

01:05:26.000 It's going to be hard, because it's always going to come back, and they're always going to make fun of you.

01:05:29.000 It's always going to be a pain point. 0.99

01:05:30.000 They're always going to talk shit, right? 0.99

01:05:31.000 It's like the equivalent to a girl that kind of used to do any type of OF or whatever. 0.99

01:05:35.000 It's going to be like that little cloud of stigma, right?

01:05:37.000 100%.

01:05:38.000 But it is what it is.

01:05:39.000 It is what it is.

01:05:39.000 You're making your money.

01:05:40.000 I would say doing that isn't the same as a girl. 0.99

01:05:42.000 You said 5% of your audience is the one that's...

01:05:45.000 0.5% out of 5 million.

01:05:49.000 Which...

01:05:50.000 Accommodate to like maybe 45% of my income.

01:05:53.000 So 0.5% accounts for almost half of your income.

01:05:53.000 So isn't that funny?

01:05:58.000 Wow.

01:05:59.000 So you lose almost half your income if you drop on my hands.

01:06:03.000 Which I'm chilling if I do, you know?

01:06:05.000 But for me, it's like...

01:06:05.000 They saved up.

01:06:07.000 See, that's why...

01:06:08.000 I think that your your concerns about like transitioning out of like pivoting out of one thing to something else is you're taking half of your income gets cut. 0.85

01:06:19.000 The problem is is that like I'm gonna admit I'm a pretty vain person so like even if I didn't have an OF I'd be like fuck like I got a sick pump like I need to post my body I have to it look like it looks people have to see this like it looks too good Bro, 0.91

01:06:34.000 it looks too good to not post it. 0.99

01:06:36.000 He's a CEO of shirtless.

01:06:37.000 That's how you start it.

01:06:37.000 And the other thing, too, is the fitness niche isn't as popular as it was maybe 10 years ago.

01:06:41.000 And I've had discussions with this, like fitness OGs with Christian Guzzo and Max Tuning.

01:06:45.000 A lot of these guys, right?

01:06:47.000 It's just not the same as it used to be.

01:06:49.000 I mean, you can still definitely be successful in it, but it's not as big as it was 10 years ago.

01:06:52.000 Yeah.

01:06:52.000 But what I will say this as far as like because right now It's very obvious you guys are like kind of in the honeymoon phase as far as your marriage It's fresh you guys are making money together.

01:07:00.000 It's gonna be successful.

01:07:00.000 Are you making money?

01:07:02.000 Which is great, but I will say is it's gonna come down the road Dude, you're gonna want to fuck other bitches like it is what it is temptation is gonna rear its ugly head It's gonna come at some point you're eventually gonna get tired of having sex with only her and you're gonna want other women and trust me I promise who's gonna come and the other thing too. 1.00

01:07:16.000 I want to say is that I You, right? 0.99

01:07:21.000 You're 28.

01:07:23.000 Your value is declining.

01:07:24.000 His value is only going up.

01:07:25.000 Let's just keep it a million here.

01:07:26.000 So what I say is, be happy with what you got and be really...

01:07:31.000 I mean, a girl that's on OF, a girl that's an entertainer, etc.

01:07:34.000 The things that you've done before, I mean, you're lucky to have them.

01:07:38.000 Even people might try to...

01:07:40.000 Oh, well, he does like G4P. Still a successful guy.

01:07:43.000 Still in the top small percentage.

01:07:45.000 And your value is only going to go up.

01:07:45.000 Still young.

01:07:46.000 And I'm telling you, dude, because I'm an older guy... 1.00

01:07:49.000 You're going to want to have sex with other girls. 1.00

01:07:50.000 Other girls are going to come to you because you have a woman already. 1.00

01:07:52.000 Now that you're married, you're going to be even more attractive to a bunch of chicks. 1.00

01:07:55.000 It's not our going.

01:07:56.000 They try.

01:07:57.000 Oh, yeah.

01:07:57.000 Boom.

01:07:58.000 Okay, so it's a matter of...

01:07:59.000 Yeah, so they're already trying.

01:08:00.000 So my thing is this for her, because she's like, I'm going to leave.

01:08:03.000 You don't have the leverage anymore.

01:08:04.000 I'm sorry.

01:08:05.000 He has the leverage in this relationship.

01:08:07.000 And if something does happen, you're better off staying with him than leaving.

01:08:11.000 Because what's going to happen is if you go back out into the market or anything else like that, dudes are just going to pump and dump you.

01:08:16.000 They're not going to take you seriously.

01:08:17.000 I'd rather be single than be with someone who doesn't really want to be with me.

01:08:21.000 He does want to be with you. 1.00

01:08:22.000 He wants to fuck other girls. 1.00

01:08:24.000 No, he doesn't. 1.00

01:08:25.000 A man having sex and a man wanting to have sex with a girl versus committing to a girl are two completely different things.

01:08:30.000 Do you think there's never been a relationship in the world where they haven't cheated?

01:08:34.000 What do you mean?

01:08:35.000 Like a marriage.

01:08:36.000 Has there ever been a marriage where the husband hasn't cheated on the wife?

01:08:39.000 No, it exists.

01:08:40.000 But what I'm saying is that when a man has sex with another girl, it's not the same as a woman having sex with another man. 0.76

01:08:44.000 Okay, yeah. 1.00

01:08:45.000 He can go fuck another chick and it's different. 0.99

01:08:47.000 I understand what you mean, but if I were to cheat, I would understand that the direct implications of that would be her not being able to get over it or through it. 0.99

01:08:58.000 No, but that's why I'm telling her now.

01:08:59.000 Be prepared. 1.00

01:09:01.000 Like, I'm literally telling you, everything is good right now, but what I'm saying is that you're 28 years old, he's going to want to fuck other bitches, trust me, I promise you. 1.00

01:09:08.000 You don't think 10 years in, he'd want to already? 1.00

01:09:10.000 He's peaky.

01:09:12.000 We also brought this up earlier.

01:09:15.000 He's not going to speak yet.

01:09:16.000 I was going to say, we just brought this up, like, when you were 20, you were, like, packing milk.

01:09:19.000 Now you're 26, and look where you are.

01:09:22.000 I don't know what your annual income is, but I'm sure it wasn't what it wasn't when you were 20, okay?

01:09:27.000 So when you look at yourself at 26, where are you going to be in the next 10 years, right?

01:09:31.000 When you get to be 36, you maximize that.

01:09:33.000 So that's really what he's getting at, is like, you're only on the way up right now.

01:09:37.000 Mm-hmm.

01:10:00.000 You are also dependent on how long you have to go in that particular.

01:10:04.000 That's why I asked you, what would you do if you didn't have OnlyFans?

01:10:07.000 Where would you go from there?

01:10:09.000 What would you pivot into?

01:10:10.000 Are you talking money-wise?

01:10:11.000 Well, both of you, really.

01:10:12.000 What would you do money-wise?

01:10:13.000 I know you have an agency to help other people.

01:10:16.000 That might be one avenue to do it.

01:10:18.000 But once you can't make the same kind of money, you're unable to do what you did before because you're no longer sexually as marketable as you were before.

01:10:28.000 Because really, let's be honest, that's what your revenue is dependent on is your sexual agency at that point.

01:10:32.000 When that decays and that's gone, what do you do after that?

01:10:35.000 That's why I was asking about kids and everything else.

01:10:36.000 We bought ourselves time.

01:10:38.000 We've done it for two years, but we are the top creators.

01:10:40.000 0.01%.

01:10:41.000 And we've done it for long enough that if we quit by the end of the year, in like two months, we already have multiple properties.

01:10:48.000 We're going to flip properties next year as well.

01:10:50.000 We really don't need to do it anymore.

01:10:52.000 So there's interest rates to go down. 0.99

01:10:54.000 Goddamn. 0.99

01:10:55.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

01:10:56.000 Yeah.

01:10:56.000 You can always refinance.

01:10:58.000 True, true, true.

01:10:59.000 I mean, that's what I was asking.

01:11:00.000 You were saying you're going to lose almost half of your income if you give up OnlyFans.

01:11:04.000 So what do you do to make up for that deficit?

01:11:07.000 I will agree with you that one of the hottest things about going viral, making money, this, that...

01:11:13.000 You can make 100k one month and then you make 80. 1.00

01:11:16.000 You have to be grateful, but your first response is like, fuck. 1.00

01:11:20.000 Damn, I could have made more. 1.00

01:11:21.000 Dude, is this shit ending? 1.00

01:11:23.000 What the fuck happened? 1.00

01:11:24.000 So it's very normal to react that way to the extremes of life. 0.99

01:11:29.000 But to touch back on what you were saying, I won't cheat, and I wouldn't consider cheating, even if it snuck up on me, you know, behind me, or maybe this girl likes me, whatever, she's giving me more attention than my wife, and I'll tell you why. 0.98

01:11:45.000 If I do that, I'm still a fucking boy. 0.97

01:11:48.000 And I know that it takes a real fucking man to be devoted and faithful to one person. 0.99

01:11:57.000 I'm not telling you to run around and cheat. 0.97

01:12:02.000 What I am saying is that if it does happen, it's in her best interest to not leave.

01:12:07.000 She should stay.

01:12:08.000 Because what I'm saying is that a lot of girls have egos. 1.00

01:12:11.000 You come from an entertainment background.

01:12:13.000 You probably have a big following on Instagram, etc.

01:12:15.000 And you're like, yo, I've accomplished XYZ. I'm the shit. 1.00

01:12:19.000 And what I'm saying is that as you age as a woman, you lose value. 1.00

01:12:24.000 And you have a man right now.

01:12:25.000 And if he fucks up and does something, it's in your best interest to stay with him because as you get older, you lose leverage with the man.

01:12:31.000 And the other thing too, bro, is that... 0.85

01:12:33.000 You're younger than her, so I get it.

01:12:35.000 You kind of defer to her a little bit because, you know, she's older than you and might be a little bit more responsible.

01:12:39.000 But you need to take the reins and be the leader in the relationship, period.

01:12:42.000 Yeah.

01:12:43.000 Like, it's got to be your way, not her way.

01:12:45.000 I mean, of course, get her, you know, opinion on things.

01:12:48.000 Obviously, consult with your wife. 0.99

01:12:49.000 But you think all the time you've got to be controlling shit? 1.00

01:12:53.000 No, you need to be... 1.00

01:12:54.000 Because I am a leader.

01:12:54.000 No, no, no.

01:12:55.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:12:56.000 You need to be in control.

01:12:58.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:12:58.000 Authority.

01:13:00.000 You're the final decision-maker. 1.00

01:13:01.000 In other words, if you tell her to do something, it's not, fuck your career. 1.00

01:13:05.000 I'm the man. 1.00

01:13:06.000 Not saying that you need to do that.

01:13:07.000 If it needed to come to that, she needs to follow you.

01:13:10.000 And then what I'm also trying to say is, I'm helping her appreciate you a little bit more now.

01:13:13.000 Because the thing with women is, a lot of women have ego, and that's crazy to me how I said, well, if you cheated, what would you do? 1.00

01:13:19.000 I'd leave. 1.00

01:13:20.000 That's ridiculous. 0.96

01:13:22.000 The chances of you finding another guy on his level that's going to take you seriously, isn't going to put you in a sex-only category and take you seriously and give you a wedding ring, are slim to none. 0.96

01:13:30.000 But I'd rather be single.

01:13:31.000 I'd rather have to find another man.

01:13:32.000 Who loses, though?

01:13:34.000 Who?

01:13:34.000 If I'm not with him, I wouldn't want to be with anyone else.

01:13:36.000 I'm never going to find that again.

01:13:38.000 But I would rather just be with him for him, but he's not going to cheat.

01:13:42.000 Like, I know him.

01:13:42.000 But if it does happen, it's great to be 20-20 hindsight, a bunch of people watching, oh, I'm never going to cheat, blah, blah, blah.

01:13:48.000 Dude, hot chick comes up, you've drank a couple, you're feeling a little nice, you know what, fuck it, I'll get my dick sucked, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

01:13:54.000 What I'm simply saying is that you guys are honeymoon phase, it's going to happen, dude. 1.00

01:13:57.000 You're going to get bored of her at some point.

01:13:58.000 She's not going to look as beautiful as she is now forever.

01:14:01.000 That's the reality.

01:14:02.000 You're going to lose value.

01:14:03.000 You're going to want a hotter, younger, tighter chick. 1.00

01:14:04.000 It's going to come.

01:14:05.000 And if it does, I'm just simply telling her, be prepared for it.

01:14:09.000 Don't leave.

01:14:09.000 Accept the fact that you no longer have leverage because you are with a man that's higher status than you and be happy with it.

01:14:14.000 And appreciate that, too.

01:14:15.000 And you need to be the leader and the authority.

01:14:16.000 It's your way, bro.

01:14:17.000 I was going to say is that one of the precipitators of divorce is getting married early.

01:14:22.000 So kids who get married between 18 and 19 years old tend to be divorced by the time they get to be about 30 years old, simply because they're missing out on that 20, their 20s period, where all their other friends, they're living vicariously through their friends and stuff.

01:14:35.000 So they're playing house.

01:14:36.000 Not to say that this is where you guys are at, but you guys have been together almost.

01:14:41.000 How long have you been together before you got married?

01:14:44.000 10 years?

01:14:45.000 Ten years.

01:14:45.000 So you're looking at a decade of shared history right there.

01:14:49.000 So you've only ever technically been...

01:14:51.000 I mean, I know you said you've got...

01:14:52.000 I still find it hard to believe that you had, like, what do you say?

01:14:56.000 20 girls in seven months?

01:14:57.000 20 girls?

01:14:57.000 Was it 20?

01:14:57.000 Yeah, 20 girls in seven months.

01:14:58.000 That comes out to, like, three girls, like, every month.

01:15:01.000 That's not that much.

01:15:03.000 He's brought that to, like, the White West. 0.96

01:15:05.000 Understood.

01:15:05.000 But be that as it may, the thing is, is, like, When a couple is younger and they get married, just because you got married now, as opposed to when you guys got together and you said, hey, we're going to be in a monogamous relationship 10 years ago, technically, you've been with no one else since that point.

01:15:22.000 So, in a sense, you kind of were married when you decided to get together and then live.

01:15:26.000 That's why I asked, were you guys living together?

01:15:28.000 So, you're living together.

01:15:29.000 You're basically...

01:15:31.000 You're basically a married couple without the marriage certificate and the ceremony.

01:15:35.000 You get there.

01:15:35.000 It's just a formality at this point to go do it in Mykonos, right?

01:15:39.000 So really...

01:15:40.000 I think they got the certificate.

01:15:41.000 You guys got it, right?

01:15:42.000 They got it.

01:15:44.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:15:45.000 Yeah, but just like two months ago, right?

01:15:47.000 Yeah.

01:15:47.000 A few weeks, yeah.

01:15:48.000 Yeah, so...

01:15:50.000 So, really, you've been more or less married for most of your 20s, or been at least in a committed, monogamous, long-term relationship since then.

01:15:57.000 So, one of the things that, like, this is why I agree with what he's saying, is that when couples get together younger, it's kind of like making up for missing out, right?

01:16:05.000 So, when you get to be about 30, when you get into your 30s, that's why I was saying, you're 26 now, when you get to be about 36, you're going to have a different opinion of things at that point.

01:16:12.000 And so, what happens is, I talk to guys like this all the time.

01:16:14.000 I say, oh, no, I'll never cheat.

01:16:15.000 You know, like, there'll be 19, but usually they're religious, right?

01:16:18.000 Yeah.

01:16:39.000 Well, I wish I wouldn't have made that decision when I made that decision.

01:16:41.000 I wish I had more time being single so I could sort of explore things.

01:16:44.000 Like when she went off to Europe for a little while just to sort of like, you know, decompress, I guess, from the other boyfriend right there.

01:16:50.000 Think of that in a long term.

01:16:52.000 So when I'm talking about how it takes men longer to mature into who they're going to become, you're still maturing into who you're going to be when you're 36 years old.

01:17:00.000 Yeah, very 26, man.

01:17:01.000 You're a kid, dude.

01:17:03.000 And this is what I call the adolescent social skill set.

01:17:05.000 Okay, so you have this social skill set that's like, oh, I love her.

01:17:08.000 I saw her at 13.

01:17:09.000 We have this great...

01:17:10.000 And I hope it works.

01:17:11.000 This is not doom and gloom, okay?

01:17:13.000 I'm just saying that this is what you're facing right now.

01:17:16.000 So when you're talking about, oh, I would never cheat on her.

01:17:20.000 I love her, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:17:21.000 Noble intent.

01:17:22.000 Love it.

01:17:23.000 Great.

01:17:23.000 But the thing is, right now, you're not who you're going to be when you're 36.

01:17:28.000 And so, especially if you're still on your way up, if you're still on your way up to becoming your maximum potential when you get to be at 36, at 36, I think you're going to have a different opinion of what you were saying on this show 10 years ago.

01:17:43.000 I want to be clear, too, about this.

01:17:45.000 What was that?

01:17:46.000 No, sorry.

01:17:48.000 Tell us what you said.

01:17:49.000 No, I'm just saying it's funny.

01:17:51.000 I figured that...

01:17:52.000 No, I totally get what you're saying.

01:17:54.000 But I feel like in a relationship we've had two crazy phases, right?

01:17:57.000 That you'd think things would go wrong in an average relationship.

01:18:01.000 I don't think they would have made it this far, right?

01:18:03.000 I want to show... 0.99

01:18:04.000 Having sex in the spa with a guy on the TV show with my tits out and he's packing milk and we got through that and then we got over here and we went to Los Angeles for a couple years. 0.99

01:18:18.000 Everyone's like, well, there's going to be so many temptations there. 0.99

01:18:21.000 Can I interrupt just one second?

01:18:23.000 There's a quote, I don't know, word by word, but when a man has nothing, There are two tests. 0.78

01:18:31.000 So when a man has nothing, and if she stayed with me when I had nothing, then I'm gonna be loyal to her when I have everything.

01:18:38.000 But here's the thing, you're complaining- That's basically it.

01:18:41.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:18:42.000 Your loyalty isn't the same as her loyalty.

01:18:44.000 Women show loyalty differently than men do. 1.00

01:18:46.000 You show loyalty by you're willing to die, protect, and provide for her, no matter what. 1.00

01:18:51.000 She shows loyalty by not fucking other men. 0.99

01:18:54.000 Now, with that said, obviously it was just a scene, it is what it is. 1.00

01:18:57.000 What I'm trying to say is, For the background that you come with, being an actress and people can see that and everything else like that, you should be happy that you got a guy to take you seriously because a lot of guys would be like, what the fuck? 0.99

01:19:06.000 I'm not gonna take this girl seriously. 0.70

01:19:08.000 Obviously this guy loves you and everything else like that. 0.99

01:19:10.000 But what I'm saying is, now that he's got a shit together and his value's only gonna go up and your value's only gonna go down, I think it's ludicrous and not logically sound for you to say, man, if he cheated on me or he had sex with another girl, I'm going to leave him. 0.97

01:19:24.000 That'd be crazy because you're not going to find a replacement to take you seriously as your value goes down, unfortunately. 0.98

01:19:29.000 And this is the thing that women don't get is that your value is not evergreen. 0.99

01:19:33.000 It goes down as you age and his is only going to go up.

01:19:35.000 So with that said, man, I know it's like wishful thinking.

01:19:38.000 I'm not telling you to cheat on your girl.

01:19:39.000 But I'm saying is that if something does happen.

01:19:42.000 Right.

01:19:42.000 You should be very appreciative and stay with the guy through thick and thin because your level of loyalty, how you show loyalty is different than how he does it.

01:19:49.000 You're using the feminine way of showing loyalty by sexual fidelity. 1.00

01:19:52.000 No, that's how she shows loyalty to you.

01:19:54.000 It's not the same.

01:19:55.000 I mean, look, we can't predict the future.

01:19:57.000 We don't know.

01:19:57.000 Of course not.

01:19:58.000 I'm like 99.999999% sure he won't.

01:20:01.000 You know the strip club 11?

01:20:03.000 Hopefully he doesn't.

01:20:05.000 I'm not saying...

01:20:06.000 I'm not saying... 1.00

01:20:06.000 I'm not telling him to go fuck other girls. 1.00

01:20:08.000 What I am saying is that I know men... 1.00

01:20:10.000 We'll try and work through it.

01:20:11.000 Yeah, I've seen people work through it.

01:20:13.000 And of course I try, but knowing who he is...

01:20:16.000 No, no, no.

01:20:16.000 Don't try.

01:20:17.000 Just do it.

01:20:18.000 If it happens, just do it.

01:20:19.000 But I'd rather be alone.

01:20:20.000 I mean, I'd rather be alone because...

01:20:24.000 Why would I... If I'm not with him, like I said, I wouldn't want to be with anyone else.

01:20:27.000 But if someone's going to cheat on me and lie to me and be like, I'm going this way and then actually go somewhere else and fuck another girl, I wouldn't want to be with him. 0.79

01:20:33.000 And I have my own money, so it's not like I'm going to be on the street broke. 0.89

01:20:36.000 So why would I... You said you were best friends at the beginning, right?

01:20:39.000 Yes.

01:20:39.000 This is your best friend, your lover, your husband.

01:20:40.000 Maybe we could be best friends if you cheated.

01:20:42.000 There you go.

01:20:43.000 Why would you leave after one action?

01:20:44.000 The thing is, let's be honest. 0.99

01:20:48.000 I don't want to shit on women. 1.00

01:20:50.000 Let's be honest. 0.99

01:20:51.000 Let's be honest.

01:20:52.000 Most girls, especially in America, There it is. 1.00

01:20:56.000 A fucking trash. 1.00

01:20:57.000 I agree with you. 1.00

01:20:58.000 I see their psyche and I see their subconscious programming.

01:21:03.000 I see how they think, how they talk, what they're interested in, how they can use men for this, that, the other.

01:21:08.000 And if she died and I became a widow, I swear to God, I'm so repulsed by the common female that I would not be seeking casual sexual encounters. 1.00

01:21:20.000 It would take me a while and then I would be looking for something much more serious. 0.95

01:21:24.000 Sounds good.

01:21:24.000 Okay, go ahead.

01:21:25.000 I do have a lot of testosterone.

01:21:27.000 I am a sexual person.

01:21:29.000 But that's just not...

01:21:30.000 I'm just not interested in it.

01:21:31.000 I think as well, his parents have the most beautiful relationship.

01:21:34.000 And he's seen how their relationship is better and how his dad treats her like a princess.

01:21:38.000 How many years have they been together?

01:21:39.000 30, some five years or something.

01:21:41.000 Maybe that is why you are the way you are.

01:21:44.000 So last week we went to 11, the nightclub.

01:21:46.000 You know, the strip club.

01:21:47.000 Strip club, sorry.

01:21:48.000 For Halloween, that's why we went.

01:21:50.000 It was like with friends or whatever.

01:21:51.000 And I was having so much fun.

01:21:52.000 I was like, this is hilarious.

01:21:53.000 And then he was like so over it.

01:21:56.000 Now, I don't know.

01:21:57.000 You'd say that's not the average man. 0.94

01:21:59.000 Okay, there's like naked chicks in front of me. 1.00

01:22:01.000 This is sick. 0.95

01:22:01.000 I felt sorry for them. 0.95

01:22:02.000 I was like, trust me, these girls are hot dogs. 1.00

01:22:04.000 When I'm with my chick, act the same way.

01:22:06.000 By the way.

01:22:06.000 Oh, you're saying only when you're with her.

01:22:08.000 So you love him, right?

01:22:11.000 You left him, right?

01:22:12.000 With all your heart.

01:22:12.000 Yes.

01:22:13.000 Question for you.

01:22:14.000 If he told you, babe, that's a great idea, let's do a threesome, what would you say? 1.00

01:22:20.000 Found this great chick at 11 and we want to bring her home.

01:22:23.000 Good mindset, down to earth.

01:22:24.000 What do you say?

01:22:25.000 Like you've lost your mind.

01:22:26.000 I get that couples want to do it, but it's just not his character. 0.97

01:22:30.000 It's like him going, I'm gay.

01:22:31.000 Because it's just not him.

01:22:33.000 Do you get what I'm saying?

01:22:34.000 Wait, he's not gay?

01:22:35.000 No, he's not gay.

01:22:36.000 Sorry.

01:22:37.000 Well, I don't know.

01:22:38.000 Is he?

01:22:39.000 Okay, okay.

01:22:40.000 So, once again, you're 26 years old.

01:22:42.000 I get it.

01:22:43.000 You're confident.

01:22:44.000 You love her 100%.

01:22:45.000 But we're just telling you, as guys as well, we're outside, bro.

01:22:49.000 We're in the world as well.

01:22:50.000 Logically sound, rational sound advices.

01:22:53.000 If it happens, and it's going to happen, maybe, at some point in your lifetime, Don't leave.

01:22:59.000 That's all we're saying.

01:23:00.000 It's an insurance policy.

01:23:01.000 You guys said you're in real estate, right?

01:23:03.000 You've got to get insurance when you go ahead and get a property, right?

01:23:05.000 You get flood insurance even though you might not necessarily get a hurricane or a flood, but you get it anyway for that self-assurance. 0.99

01:23:12.000 What I'm saying is that for you, keep it in the back of your mind that, okay, he might go ahead and fuck another girl. 0.92

01:23:17.000 If it happens, I'm going to put my ego to the side, understand that he is the one who's the leader, has more leverage. 0.99

01:23:22.000 I'm losing value.

01:23:23.000 I need to be logically sound, not rule my emotions, and I'm not leaving this man.

01:23:27.000 Yeah.

01:23:27.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:23:29.000 Hey, man, dude, if you're going to stay faithful, monogamous, fantastic.

01:23:31.000 Do it. 1.00

01:23:32.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

01:23:33.000 But what I'm saying is that 99% of the time dudes don't do that. 1.00

01:23:36.000 They can't.

01:23:37.000 99, that's a high one.

01:23:39.000 Yeah, because...

01:23:40.000 You have two brothers, correct?

01:23:41.000 Yeah.

01:23:41.000 Are they married?

01:23:42.000 They both have two kids each.

01:23:44.000 How long have they been married?

01:23:46.000 Do they have a similar, like, outlook on their marriages?

01:23:48.000 Definitely.

01:23:49.000 It's what their dad ingrained in them.

01:23:50.000 They look at cheating like it's disgusting.

01:23:53.000 Like, especially Jay.

01:23:55.000 He has his wife, and he's like, he's princess, and he looks like he knows friends have cheated, and he's like, literally, just like, he's disgusted by it. 1.00

01:24:01.000 Oh, he definitely fucked other bitches, though. 1.00

01:24:04.000 Come on, man. 1.00

01:24:05.000 I'll do the same shit. 1.00

01:24:08.000 Same shit, I'll do the same thing. 1.00

01:24:09.000 Oh yeah, cheating is disgusting. 1.00

01:24:12.000 I will never. 1.00

01:24:12.000 Yeah, dude, he definitely fucked other chicks if he's doing that type of shit. 1.00

01:24:16.000 Alright, we'll read the chats in the closest thing out. 0.99

01:24:18.000 Let's see here, and then we'll turn it to them if they have any questions for us.

01:24:21.000 Alright, homeboy looks like Matt Reif if he went trans twice. 1.00

01:24:25.000 God damn, y'all fucked up, man. 1.00

01:24:26.000 Who is that? 1.00

01:24:27.000 Icy Sidetooth.

01:24:28.000 Who is that?

01:24:28.000 Icy Sidetooth, apparently.

01:24:31.000 What else do we got here?

01:24:34.000 $20 worth spent, bro. 0.68

01:24:36.000 This guy is more valuable to this modern society showing his butthole for $15k than a police officer, engineer, electrician, plumber. 0.99

01:24:42.000 We're all just worthless brokies. 0.99

01:24:44.000 Please let World War III happen so we can reset this BS society.

01:24:47.000 What are you going to do about it?

01:24:49.000 You want to respond to him?

01:24:50.000 You ever give the USA back to him?

01:24:53.000 Nah.

01:24:54.000 This guy's going to be your landlord.

01:24:58.000 We both go, this guy's a Dwight Howard for sure, okay?

01:25:01.000 For an office?

01:25:02.000 No, in reference for G2P, the basketball player.

01:25:06.000 G-Man goes, thought of a solution for the below 20% men. 1.00

01:25:10.000 Women, my body, my choice. 1.00

01:25:12.000 Go abroad, pay women that agree to have your children sign a contract. 1.00

01:25:14.000 She gives away custody, return, no child divorce, courts, hire, maid escort, be cheaper, see? 1.00

01:25:19.000 Bro.

01:25:20.000 Nigga, that's a lot of work. 1.00

01:25:20.000 You know too much, bro. 1.00

01:25:21.000 That's a lot of work, man.

01:25:22.000 It's a doctoral thesis.

01:25:23.000 What else do we got here?

01:25:24.000 Anything else?

01:25:25.000 Oh, okay.

01:25:25.000 I understand your opinion of marriage differs from Matt Walsh, but if you ever considered having him on the pod for couples intervention, it would provide multiple perspectives for the couples.

01:25:33.000 Yeah, that's not going to happen.

01:25:34.000 I mean, if he wants to come on, sure.

01:25:37.000 Albo Ace, zesty... 1.00

01:25:38.000 Oh, ass. 1.00

01:25:40.000 Okay. 1.00

01:25:40.000 Selling yourself to gay dudes and wifing up an OF chick. 1.00

01:25:42.000 Haram, haram, haram. 1.00

01:25:43.000 Send them to Saudi. 1.00

01:25:44.000 Maybe World War III wouldn't be so bad after all.

01:25:46.000 Oh my gosh.

01:25:47.000 Do you have anything to say back to him? 0.69

01:25:48.000 I want to say, why do you want to die, bro? 0.98

01:25:53.000 Do you hate your life so much you want to die?

01:25:56.000 You really want World War 3? 0.99

01:25:58.000 Send the meteor.

01:25:59.000 That's a good point.

01:26:00.000 Any questions you guys got for us or comments or statements or anything like that?

01:26:06.000 How old are you?

01:26:07.000 I'm 33.

01:26:08.000 33?

01:26:09.000 Yeah.

01:26:10.000 You?

01:26:10.000 31.

01:26:11.000 Are you guys single?

01:26:13.000 I have an open relationship.

01:26:14.000 Open.

01:26:15.000 On my end only, not on hers.

01:26:18.000 And it works out.

01:26:20.000 Obviously, I was honest from the beginning.

01:26:23.000 Told her what it was.

01:26:24.000 She accepts it.

01:26:26.000 And I think men need to... 1.00

01:26:28.000 Because the reality is men typically almost always want other women.

01:26:32.000 You could play the monogamy game for a period of time, but you're always going to want other women. 1.00

01:26:36.000 So I'm honest about it.

01:26:38.000 Let her know what it is.

01:26:39.000 And yeah.

01:26:41.000 I think honesty, that's it.

01:26:42.000 Yeah.

01:26:42.000 If that's your point, like, you know, if you have an agreement, go for it.

01:26:45.000 Like, I have friends who are in open relationships.

01:26:47.000 I'm like, it works for you.

01:26:48.000 Fantastic.

01:26:51.000 So you're going to let him slide?

01:26:52.000 No.

01:26:53.000 If you're happy, you're happy.

01:26:55.000 I think it just depends on each situation.

01:26:57.000 But yeah.

01:26:58.000 Well, we wish you the best, man.

01:26:59.000 But we're just telling you the future.

01:27:02.000 Do you have anything else to say about this future of you cheating?

01:27:06.000 Definitely not going to happen.

01:27:07.000 Well, it's not cheating if he tells you I want to have other women.

01:27:09.000 Oh, no, that's different.

01:27:10.000 Yeah.

01:27:11.000 Okay, so you're cool with it?

01:27:12.000 No, I'm not cool with it.

01:27:13.000 I'm saying it'd be better if he said it than, like, lying.

01:27:16.000 I feel like the problem with cheating is the lying aspect.

01:27:19.000 If you hide it.

01:27:19.000 There it is.

01:27:20.000 Okay, look, well, we were...

01:27:21.000 Oh, man.

01:27:22.000 But no, I'm still not gonna let him, like, just...

01:27:24.000 If he asked me, it'd be weird and I'd be like, something's off.

01:27:26.000 I'm talking about in general with other relationships.

01:27:28.000 This is what I think.

01:27:28.000 I know you guys said, like, a woman's value decreases as she gets older.

01:27:32.000 Yes.

01:27:32.000 And I do agree with you, but when she becomes...

01:27:35.000 A mother, I think a value is really increased.

01:27:38.000 That's personal worth versus sexual market value.

01:27:41.000 And then the reason why we're making that separation is because that's where your revenue is generated from right now, is your sexual market value. 1.00

01:27:49.000 Both of you, as a matter of fact.

01:27:52.000 And I think people always, when we say your value is lowering, we're not saying your value as a human being.

01:27:57.000 We're saying your attraction level.

01:28:00.000 You can be a great humanitarian and you can have no sexual market value.

01:28:03.000 Although, I don't know, it was my mom's 60th and I posted her and she got more attention than me.

01:28:07.000 Everyone's like, she's the hottest milk. 0.94

01:28:08.000 Where's her OF? I'm like, mom?

01:28:10.000 I don't know.

01:28:11.000 But that is a fantasy. 0.97

01:28:13.000 But that just proves that men sexualize women. 1.00

01:28:16.000 Yeah. 0.86

01:28:17.000 And?

01:28:18.000 Yeah, I mean, she's hot. 1.00

01:28:20.000 Yeah, but if she's hot at 60, she probably was a lot hotter at 20. 1.00

01:28:24.000 There is niche porn for everyone.

01:28:26.000 What about the Kardashians?

01:28:27.000 I feel like they're the hottest now in their 40s.

01:28:29.000 Oh my god.

01:28:30.000 Just wondering.

01:28:33.000 Let's go ahead and talk about that because people like to go ahead and always use the Kardashians as an example, right?

01:28:38.000 Kim Kardashian pretty much cries herself to sleep every night. 0.75

01:28:41.000 She can't get a man to take her seriously.

01:28:42.000 She has surgeries out the woozaa.

01:28:44.000 Yeah, she's made a bunch of money and she's wildly successful and she's a world-renowned individual, but... 0.99

01:28:49.000 No one takes her seriously. 0.98

01:28:51.000 The thing is that no one, with all due respect, no one gives a fuck about female accolades. 0.97

01:28:56.000 We really don't care. 0.97

01:28:57.000 If you lost everything tomorrow, he would not leave you.

01:28:59.000 But the reality is, if he lost everything tomorrow, there'd be a high likelihood you'd leave him.

01:29:03.000 And that's the uncomfortable reality between men and women.

01:29:05.000 A general woman would. 0.99

01:29:06.000 She wouldn't.

01:29:07.000 Because I had nothing, and she didn't leave.

01:29:09.000 I'm weird like that.

01:29:10.000 But you have something now, and if you lost it, it would definitely put stress on your relationship.

01:29:16.000 Back then, remember, we spoke about this earlier.

01:29:18.000 You said you didn't like that you did the show last time because obviously it had some sex scenes in it, but now at your value, would you say yes to that?

01:29:26.000 You wouldn't.

01:29:26.000 So things have changed over a period of time.

01:29:28.000 She had the leverage before, and now you have it.

01:29:30.000 And what I'm saying is, I mean, number one, you're lucky that she even got a relationship.

01:29:33.000 I'll be honest with you, a lot of guys, when wife and girl, they got a sex scene in the show.

01:29:36.000 That's fine.

01:29:37.000 But what I am saying is that you have the leverage now, bro.

01:29:40.000 And it's better that way.

01:29:41.000 Trust me.

01:29:42.000 It's better when you have the leverage versus her having the leverage.

01:29:44.000 Because when she has the leverage, what'd she do?

01:29:46.000 A sex scene on a TV show, which you don't like.

01:29:49.000 Women should never have leverage. 1.00

01:29:51.000 Let me ask you this.

01:29:51.000 When he was 20 and he was packing milk and he didn't have the kind of money that he does right now, did you see potential in him?

01:29:58.000 That he could be more than what he was?

01:30:00.000 Ambition.

01:30:00.000 Ambition at that time?

01:30:02.000 I guess moving to America together and his music career, yeah, but I wasn't like...

01:30:06.000 Do you think he could be something more than he actually was certainly at that time?

01:30:10.000 Um...

01:30:12.000 Yes and no.

01:30:12.000 Like, I don't think I would have cared if he didn't, but yeah, it was like, we hoped for it, that something would happen.

01:30:19.000 Hope.

01:30:19.000 Hope, yes.

01:30:20.000 I feel like you were the only person, like, I had big delusions for my life, and she was the only person who'd be like...

01:30:26.000 Believed in you?

01:30:27.000 Believed in me, yeah.

01:30:28.000 I guarantee you, when that green car came across the street...

01:30:33.000 Green card!

01:30:34.000 Let's go!

01:30:35.000 I believe you, babe.

01:30:36.000 Okay, cool.

01:30:39.000 Anything else?

01:30:40.000 That's it.

01:30:40.000 All right, okay.

01:30:41.000 Fresh's Dog goes, homie just got to smash hoes on camera and call them scenes so it don't count as cheating. 1.00

01:30:45.000 Problem solved.

01:30:45.000 There you go.

01:30:47.000 Madera, my backtracking in the stream said, of course, get her opinion on things. 0.50

01:30:51.000 Consult with your wife. 1.00

01:30:52.000 But last week's After Hours of Sneakle, you agreed with Chris when he said, fuck what your wife says. 1.00

01:30:57.000 Yeah, fuck what your wife says if it doesn't line up with what you want to do. 1.00

01:31:00.000 Consult with her, but at the end of the day, you make the final decision. 1.00

01:31:02.000 Don't try to take the shit out of context, you fucking loser. 1.00

01:31:05.000 Niggas be fucking retarded in here sometimes, man. 1.00

01:31:07.000 Common sense would tell you, bro, you have a wife, obviously you need her opinion, bro. 1.00

01:31:11.000 Are you dumb? 1.00

01:31:12.000 Dudes are like scientists. 1.00

01:31:14.000 Fuck what she thinks if she doesn't agree with you. 1.00

01:31:18.000 Facts. 1.00

01:31:19.000 But if she agrees with you, and maybe she has a new...

01:31:22.000 Hey, I agree with you, but how about this?

01:31:24.000 Oh, that actually amplifies...

01:31:25.000 Yeah, that makes it better.

01:31:26.000 Cool.

01:31:27.000 Let's do that. 1.00

01:31:27.000 But if it doesn't align with what you want, yeah, then fuck what she thinks. 1.00

01:31:30.000 Yo, please. 1.00

01:31:31.000 Goddamn, man. 0.99

01:31:32.000 Some people don't have common sense in here, man. 1.00

01:31:34.000 This dude definitely wants to smash other men, not women.

01:31:36.000 This marriage gotta be our front L. Hold on.

01:31:40.000 For the last time. 0.75

01:31:42.000 People all keep saying gay this, gay that. 0.98

01:31:45.000 What are you? 0.81

01:31:47.000 I'm straight.

01:31:48.000 There you go.

01:31:49.000 Problem solved.

01:31:49.000 There you go.

01:31:50.000 Alright, cool.

01:31:51.000 With that said, guys, where can they find you guys?

01:31:53.000 Yeah, where can they find you?

01:31:54.000 And Rolo?

01:31:55.000 Taya Ritchie.

01:31:56.000 T-A-Y-O-R-I-C-C-I. Scarlet Bass. 0.78

01:32:01.000 And you can find me at The Rational Mail.

01:32:03.000 I'm on YouTube, as you guys know.

01:32:06.000 And we also do a show called Access Vegas in Las Vegas every other week with Mike Sartain, who's in the house here.

01:32:12.000 And then, of course, you can find all my books on Amazon, The Rational Mail.

01:32:15.000 Cool.

01:32:16.000 Cool.

01:32:16.000 Guys, like the video, subscribe to the channel.

01:32:18.000 We'll be back after hours.

01:32:20.000 Love you all.

01:32:20.000 Peace.

01:32:21.000 Peace.

01:32:21.000 See you later.

01:32:27.000 I just ran.

01:32:28.000 I ran all night and day.

Fresh & Fit - November 08, 2023

Rollo Tomassi Meets Couple's Intervention!

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