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00:07:13.000But, funny, Mike Majlik or whatever, we did a stream with Sneeko yesterday and he was trying to say, these red pillars don't have any life experience.
00:07:20.000Yeah, well, he made a comment saying, responding to our stream yesterday with Sneeko, and I told him, I was like, bro, while you were in, he was talking about how he was in New Haven in Bridgeport, like, suffering from opiate addiction, blah, blah.
00:07:30.000I was like, bro, while you were in New Haven doing drugs, I was going after the people that were selling you the drugs.
00:07:35.000I was literally arresting the people that were doing that shit.
00:07:37.000So, you know, we're not the same, bro.
00:07:39.000So it's like, he's trying to say, oh, I don't have any experience, but it is what it is.
00:07:42.000Anyway, with that said, guys, Unplugged Fit on Twitter.
00:10:07.000Yeah, we moved to the US three years ago, and basically we started mingling with other social media creators, and he's like, oh, just pretend you're stepbrother, stepsis in this video.
00:10:28.000It's a huge thing, like stepbrother, stepsis.
00:10:30.000Yeah, we didn't even know that at the time.
00:10:31.000They were just like, oh, say this, say that, and we did.
00:10:34.000We'd never done TikToks really before, and then it went so viral.
00:10:37.000So then we went to other content days, and every creator was like, we want them in our videos, we want to copy it, because everyone copies each other.
00:10:52.000But I was doing like random shuffling videos like I was just doing like the most random shit like just had my shirt off just doing like fuckboy shit and then one day I was like wait why don't we start just run with this and like just keep running with it yeah and then we started doing street interviews and all that stuff and then we just like blew up How'd you guys meet?
00:11:32.000And I, because I'm an actress, I just did, like, before social media was a thing.
00:11:36.000I wish I did it back then, because I dressed as a boy, and I'd go to the mall, and I would go up to girls and hit on them as, like, a joke.
00:11:58.000And then like, literally the next day, because we had like a mutual friend, and like she brought her, and then she was like, oh, this is my friend Scarlett.
00:12:05.000And then she was like, oh, this was actually Carlos the other day.
00:15:34.000And then you had a girlfriend for, what, four months before you decided that you were going to have something serious with her?
00:15:40.000I mean, that's not the chronological time order of it, but basically, when I was 16, I had a girlfriend for five months, and then outside of that, I was seeing random girls.
00:15:51.000And how many random girls are we talking about?
00:16:53.000Yeah, I was like, please, please, please, like, you know, I'd been in a relationship as well, so I was like, I just knew as soon as we got together, it was gonna be like a lifelong thing, and I was like, we're so young, this isn't gonna work if, like, you just need to, like, go and, like, see girls, and he wouldn't.
00:18:34.000Now, when you guys were having these casual encounters, right, and she had a boyfriend, etc., to be honest, did you ever make a move on her romantically?
00:21:51.000When it comes to intersexual, Mike and I will disagree on this one, but I have a different opinion than he does in this case.
00:21:58.000Men and women can be friends, but only in a different context.
00:22:05.000Usually I'm going to say men and women can't be friends simply because our framework or our understanding of friendship is usually based on our same-sex friends.
00:22:13.000So you're not going to have the same quality or the same kind of friendship that you have with your bros or girls with girlfriends.
00:22:19.000And so when a guy and a girl come together and they're like, oh, we're just platonic friends.
00:22:27.000It is bullshit because what happens is guys will start to become the girlfriend.
00:22:32.000And if you've read my book, you already know what I'm going to say, Women have boyfriends and girlfriends, and if you're not fucking her, you're her girlfriend.
00:22:40.000So guys end up taking the role of a girlfriend because women will see that guy communicating to her as her girlfriends do.
00:22:46.000And so her subconscious and her hindbrain kind of says, oh, well, he's communicating to me like a girl, so therefore he's now my girlfriend.
00:22:52.000Whether he's gay or he's straight doesn't make any difference.
00:22:54.000It's just the idea that the way that the communication and the way the relationship plays out We tend to see friendships based on what our same-sex friendships are.
00:23:03.000And so when we have intersexual friendships, usually it's the guy who is sort of the submissive in that, meaning that he's going to tolerate and he's going to accommodate that woman's communication side and do the things that she wants, especially if the guy's interested in her.
00:24:09.000So besides your boyfriend being emotionally erratic, leaving him the opportunity of being single now, what made you say, you know, I'm going to give him a shot?
00:25:13.000And just so the chat knows, guys, we're going to read, um, call it bills, what, 20 and up?
00:25:17.000Yeah, guys, for this show, um, just because we want to make sure we get through everything.
00:25:20.000Um, just, we'll have them ready, uh, bills will start organizing them and everything, but we'll keep going here.
00:25:24.000Sorry, you guys were going to ask something, or?
00:25:27.000No, real quick, so when you guys actually got together, what was your job back then?
00:25:32.000Okay, I was finishing school, and then basically after school, I played soccer my whole life, so I quit soccer, and then I decided to get into music and manifested moving to LA, all this bullshit, and then I did.
00:25:47.000But from 18 to 21, I was working in warehouses packing milk.
00:29:09.000Yeah, like when I was in Europe, my mom and sister were like, oh that bartender's so cute, he wants to ask you on a date, and trying to set me up.
00:29:16.000And then I would just be calling him all day, like it couldn't help it.
00:31:39.000And do you like her being on the show?
00:31:42.000I was so happy for her like obviously this is we would we would talk about our dreams like every day and this was like a huge opportunity so obviously I was ecstatic um a part of me someone said dude we're in gay what's up But no,
00:32:03.000But apart from those little discrepancies, like, you know, sometimes the role, which is why the acting industry sort of sucks, because there's a lot of, you know, over-the-top sexualizations on people who make, you know, Instagrams, do OnlyFans, all this,
00:32:19.000but in the acting industry, there's more of that, I feel like.
00:32:22.000So did you see her do scenes where you were like, yo, what the fuck?
00:32:25.000Yeah, like, I had to, like, watch her, like, kiss other guys.
00:32:28.000Like, I'd be there and, like, fucking shake this guy's hand and be like, okay, this is fucking weird, but I guess this is acting, right?
00:35:00.000I mean, you're a year and a half older, and he's packing milk.
00:35:04.000And playing video games and playing music.
00:35:06.000Nothing wrong with that, I'll give you that.
00:35:09.000But he's not where he wants to be, right?
00:35:11.000So as we've said before, men must become and women just are.
00:35:14.000So this is really a good example of what you guys always say and what I've always said in my books is that it takes longer for men to mature into becoming like what their maximum, you know, you're still only 26 years old, you've still got at least another 10 years, right?
00:35:51.000And now I presume things have changed, right?
00:35:54.000So he's, I mean, just looking at the watch and everything else, I presume you're making more money than you were when you're making milk, when you're packing milk.
00:36:01.000So clearly you've come quite a ways since then.
00:36:04.000So you would have been, what, 20, 21 back then?
00:36:22.000There's probably, you've got a long way to go.
00:36:24.000But there's that moment where, like, when women are carrying that guy, and that's...
00:36:30.000It can be pretty dicey right there, especially if she's in the kind of position she's in, or she's an OnlyFans girl, or she's a stripper, or she's an actress, or she's anything that is in some way eroticized or sexualized, that's going to be even tougher, especially when you're making a lot.
00:36:44.000There's no way him at that age packing milk is going to make anywhere near the amount of money that she is.
00:36:50.000And so it's like, sometimes it's like, you either got to be really, really determined to kick ass, or else you're just going to sit there and play video games and sedate yourself.
00:36:58.000Okay, so you're doing an acting thing or whatever.
00:37:01.000At what point did everything shift and then you started to take on the breadwinner role?
00:38:12.000A lot of actors and athletes get it to come over and shit like that.
00:38:18.000So you're going back and forth, you're saving money, going to LA, going to Vegas, making connections, going back, making more money, saving, and then she's going back with you periodically when she can, and then she's also acting and doing her thing in between.
00:39:17.000What did you do that created that revenue stream that finally put you on an equal playing field with her?
00:39:23.000Before we left, I had an OnlyFans account when I was sort of finishing the show because I genuinely thought it was for fans of celebrities.
00:39:37.000She would always tell me, you should get on this.
00:39:38.000I'm like, what the fuck is this bullshit?
00:39:40.000Yeah, and I was like, and they genuinely, my fans from the show, would just pay to chat to me because I was like famous, you know, like, oh yeah, and I was making, like, not much, like $1,000 a month, but like, I just thought that's what it was, so I had it there, and I kept telling him to make it, and he hadn't made one yet.
00:39:54.000We came and we had it, but we didn't really do it.
00:40:41.000So we're both serving bottles and he'd do the girl tables and I'd do the guy tables.
00:40:44.000So then at that, when we were at this job, As soon as we moved to LA, we basically got this job after a couple months, and we were making sometimes like 9k cash every weekend together.
00:40:58.000But at the same time, we had our social media and we had OnlyFans, but it wasn't until we went to this content day, that day that that video went viral, that we said, well, if we're going viral on everyone else's channel, why don't we try it ourselves?
00:41:13.000And then we went on everyone's channel and every time we'd go on someone's channel it just blew up.
00:41:19.000So it might not be a coincidence, it might be us.
00:41:22.000So we created our own and we went out one day and we started interviewing people on the street, both of us, and from the second we posted that first video each, That was it.
00:42:45.000And then you guys continue to make content, street interviews, OnlyFans, you quit the club or the bar at this point, full-time on social media, start and you're able to scale up, make more money, and then you guys decide to get married.
00:43:08.000I would say it's a woman's, probably, direct, like, a very direct inclination to want to rush a man.
00:43:18.000But I would say it was always under my discretion.
00:43:22.000I don't think I've ever brought it up, though.
00:43:24.000I mean, I could tell you wanted to, but if I was like, we're not getting married until 15 years after, she would have waited.
00:43:30.000But for me, I knew I always wanted to marry her, but I wanted to delay the process as much as possible because I wanted to enjoy her as my girlfriend.
00:46:40.000So less expenses and less time to waste on women, basically.
00:46:46.000Yes, because women typically are liabilities in most situations.
00:46:49.000When I was working in wine and spirits, when I was working in the liquor industry, the homosexual market was a completely different animal than if you're marketing to women as well, because homosexuals have more disposable income.
00:47:00.000So you can do top shelf brands to homosexual markets.
00:48:11.000I cannot wait until you smack the taste out of a particular YouTuber's mouth, but until then, can you please touch up on Tyrese and Samantha Lee's situation?
00:48:18.000She's giving dating advice after she apparently did them dirty.
00:51:53.000I feel like it's the same, but what do you think?
00:51:54.000I think it's exactly the same, like, our routine and, like, what we do with each other and whatever, but I feel like, in my head, I'm like, okay, I want to start a family with her.
00:52:03.000You know, we both want to start a family.
00:53:34.000They've got cum dripping out of their mouth and shit.
00:53:37.000So this is kind of a unique situation because usually when I'm talking to a married couple and they both do OnlyFans, they have one OnlyFans account and they're fucking each other on OnlyFans as opposed to having two separate ones and then you have a different demographic than she does,
00:57:11.000Is she the final decision maker or seem like she's the final decision maker?
00:57:13.000Like, she'll listen to what you gotta say or whatever, but at the end of the day, someone's gotta be the one to make the final decision.
00:57:18.000I feel like, I don't know, if you're, like, looking for an Airbnb or something, like, she'll look for it, and then she'll be like, which one?
00:57:34.000I think that's why it works is because we compromise on everything and we want to make sure that we both want to do whatever the decision is.
00:57:44.000Us moving to the USA, I think I sparked that.
01:00:27.000It's more that everyone in Australia has kids right now, like all our friends and all his brothers, and my sister just had one, and it's like, oh, it'd be nice for the kids to grow up at the same age, and that kind of thing.
01:00:37.000When do you think you want to have kids?
01:00:38.000In the next couple of years, like before 30.
01:01:29.000And the reason I'm asking this is because would you be able to to do something else besides only fans if that was no longer an option for you to do because because you have kids like what would you what would you do if you weren't doing what you're doing right now Well,
01:01:49.000But my main incentive was to make enough money to be able to direct and produce my own films so I don't have to worry about other directors, producers and situations, casting, I can just produce my own stuff.
01:02:01.000So for me, it's producing my own content, making films.
01:02:05.000And then when it comes to social media, I feel like opportunities are endless.
01:02:10.000What I would say for me is it would be nice to make...
01:02:15.000Because we don't just make videos online just to direct subscribers.
01:02:21.000We also make videos like giving kids money and funny jokes, pranks, all that shit.
01:02:28.000It would be really nice to not have the nuisance of having to be like, oh fuck, I need to make this video where I'm acting a little bit more sexual, like have my shirt off or something.
01:02:39.000I would just like to not do that and just be more fitness-related rather than...
01:03:20.000Because I'm going to be very honest here about everything that I've...
01:03:22.000Because I've been taking notes, listening in, all this other stuff.
01:03:25.000So I'm just going to keep it a million with you guys.
01:03:28.000For you, as far as trying to transition back from the...
01:03:33.000Because obviously you make content that goes to a certain audience, right?
01:03:36.000The homosexual demographic, which has a lot of expendable income, very lucrative, right?
01:03:40.000And then you also do the other content as well.
01:03:41.000But let's be honest here, the predominant...
01:03:44.000People that are paying and subscribing are gay guys.
01:03:47.000So it's gonna be very difficult to transition back out of that with the amount of notoriety and views that you have going in that niche.
01:03:55.000I disagree, I'll tell you why, but go.
01:03:58.000And the reason why is because if you're gonna cultivate a male audience, Men are real big on respect, and they want to be able to look up to you and be like, alright, you've accomplished certain things, you have a certain background.
01:04:11.000Men value competence in the people that they follow.
01:04:58.000I'm just saying it's going to be very difficult because if you want a male audience, and I know this because our audience is mostly male, they value competence and they want to be able to look up to you and be like, alright, this guy's a shape, this guy's a shit together.
01:05:09.000He did real shit beforehand being on YouTube or being a creator.
01:05:13.000So I'm not saying you can't overcome that.
01:05:14.000I'm just saying it's going to be an uphill battle a little bit, especially coming from the G4P. I've seen guys successfully do it though, right?
01:06:08.000I think that your your concerns about like transitioning out of like pivoting out of one thing to something else is you're taking half of your income gets cut.
01:06:19.000The problem is is that like I'm gonna admit I'm a pretty vain person so like even if I didn't have an OF I'd be like fuck like I got a sick pump like I need to post my body I have to it look like it looks people have to see this like it looks too good Bro,
01:06:52.000But what I will say this as far as like because right now It's very obvious you guys are like kind of in the honeymoon phase as far as your marriage It's fresh you guys are making money together.
01:07:02.000Which is great, but I will say is it's gonna come down the road Dude, you're gonna want to fuck other bitches like it is what it is temptation is gonna rear its ugly head It's gonna come at some point you're eventually gonna get tired of having sex with only her and you're gonna want other women and trust me I promise who's gonna come and the other thing too.
01:08:05.000He has the leverage in this relationship.
01:08:07.000And if something does happen, you're better off staying with him than leaving.
01:08:11.000Because what's going to happen is if you go back out into the market or anything else like that, dudes are just going to pump and dump you.
01:08:16.000They're not going to take you seriously.
01:08:17.000I'd rather be single than be with someone who doesn't really want to be with me.
01:08:45.000He can go fuck another chick and it's different.
01:08:47.000I understand what you mean, but if I were to cheat, I would understand that the direct implications of that would be her not being able to get over it or through it.
01:08:58.000No, but that's why I'm telling her now.
01:09:01.000Like, I'm literally telling you, everything is good right now, but what I'm saying is that you're 28 years old, he's going to want to fuck other bitches, trust me, I promise you.
01:09:08.000You don't think 10 years in, he'd want to already?
01:10:18.000But once you can't make the same kind of money, you're unable to do what you did before because you're no longer sexually as marketable as you were before.
01:10:28.000Because really, let's be honest, that's what your revenue is dependent on is your sexual agency at that point.
01:10:32.000When that decays and that's gone, what do you do after that?
01:10:35.000That's why I was asking about kids and everything else.
01:11:24.000So it's very normal to react that way to the extremes of life.
01:11:29.000But to touch back on what you were saying, I won't cheat, and I wouldn't consider cheating, even if it snuck up on me, you know, behind me, or maybe this girl likes me, whatever, she's giving me more attention than my wife, and I'll tell you why.
01:11:45.000If I do that, I'm still a fucking boy.
01:11:48.000And I know that it takes a real fucking man to be devoted and faithful to one person.
01:11:57.000I'm not telling you to run around and cheat.
01:12:02.000What I am saying is that if it does happen, it's in her best interest to not leave.
01:12:25.000And if he fucks up and does something, it's in your best interest to stay with him because as you get older, you lose leverage with the man.
01:12:31.000And the other thing too, bro, is that...
01:13:22.000The chances of you finding another guy on his level that's going to take you seriously, isn't going to put you in a sex-only category and take you seriously and give you a wedding ring, are slim to none.
01:13:42.000But if it does happen, it's great to be 20-20 hindsight, a bunch of people watching, oh, I'm never going to cheat, blah, blah, blah.
01:13:48.000Dude, hot chick comes up, you've drank a couple, you're feeling a little nice, you know what, fuck it, I'll get my dick sucked, blah, blah, blah.
01:13:54.000What I'm simply saying is that you guys are honeymoon phase, it's going to happen, dude.
01:13:57.000You're going to get bored of her at some point.
01:13:58.000She's not going to look as beautiful as she is now forever.
01:14:17.000I was going to say is that one of the precipitators of divorce is getting married early.
01:14:22.000So kids who get married between 18 and 19 years old tend to be divorced by the time they get to be about 30 years old, simply because they're missing out on that 20, their 20s period, where all their other friends, they're living vicariously through their friends and stuff.
01:15:05.000But be that as it may, the thing is, is, like, When a couple is younger and they get married, just because you got married now, as opposed to when you guys got together and you said, hey, we're going to be in a monogamous relationship 10 years ago, technically, you've been with no one else since that point.
01:15:22.000So, in a sense, you kind of were married when you decided to get together and then live.
01:15:26.000That's why I asked, were you guys living together?
01:15:50.000So, really, you've been more or less married for most of your 20s, or been at least in a committed, monogamous, long-term relationship since then.
01:15:57.000So, one of the things that, like, this is why I agree with what he's saying, is that when couples get together younger, it's kind of like making up for missing out, right?
01:16:05.000So, when you get to be about 30, when you get into your 30s, that's why I was saying, you're 26 now, when you get to be about 36, you're going to have a different opinion of things at that point.
01:16:12.000And so, what happens is, I talk to guys like this all the time.
01:16:39.000Well, I wish I wouldn't have made that decision when I made that decision.
01:16:41.000I wish I had more time being single so I could sort of explore things.
01:16:44.000Like when she went off to Europe for a little while just to sort of like, you know, decompress, I guess, from the other boyfriend right there.
01:16:52.000So when I'm talking about how it takes men longer to mature into who they're going to become, you're still maturing into who you're going to be when you're 36 years old.
01:17:23.000But the thing is, right now, you're not who you're going to be when you're 36.
01:17:28.000And so, especially if you're still on your way up, if you're still on your way up to becoming your maximum potential when you get to be at 36, at 36, I think you're going to have a different opinion of what you were saying on this show 10 years ago.
01:18:04.000Having sex in the spa with a guy on the TV show with my tits out and he's packing milk and we got through that and then we got over here and we went to Los Angeles for a couple years.
01:18:18.000Everyone's like, well, there's going to be so many temptations there.
01:18:42.000Your loyalty isn't the same as her loyalty.
01:18:44.000Women show loyalty differently than men do.
01:18:46.000You show loyalty by you're willing to die, protect, and provide for her, no matter what.
01:18:51.000She shows loyalty by not fucking other men.
01:18:54.000Now, with that said, obviously it was just a scene, it is what it is.
01:18:57.000What I'm trying to say is, For the background that you come with, being an actress and people can see that and everything else like that, you should be happy that you got a guy to take you seriously because a lot of guys would be like, what the fuck?
01:19:06.000I'm not gonna take this girl seriously.
01:19:08.000Obviously this guy loves you and everything else like that.
01:19:10.000But what I'm saying is, now that he's got a shit together and his value's only gonna go up and your value's only gonna go down, I think it's ludicrous and not logically sound for you to say, man, if he cheated on me or he had sex with another girl, I'm going to leave him.
01:19:24.000That'd be crazy because you're not going to find a replacement to take you seriously as your value goes down, unfortunately.
01:19:29.000And this is the thing that women don't get is that your value is not evergreen.
01:19:33.000It goes down as you age and his is only going to go up.
01:19:35.000So with that said, man, I know it's like wishful thinking.
01:19:38.000I'm not telling you to cheat on your girl.
01:19:39.000But I'm saying is that if something does happen.
01:19:42.000You should be very appreciative and stay with the guy through thick and thin because your level of loyalty, how you show loyalty is different than how he does it.
01:19:49.000You're using the feminine way of showing loyalty by sexual fidelity.
01:19:52.000No, that's how she shows loyalty to you.
01:20:20.000I mean, I'd rather be alone because...
01:20:24.000Why would I... If I'm not with him, like I said, I wouldn't want to be with anyone else.
01:20:27.000But if someone's going to cheat on me and lie to me and be like, I'm going this way and then actually go somewhere else and fuck another girl, I wouldn't want to be with him.
01:20:33.000And I have my own money, so it's not like I'm going to be on the street broke.
01:20:36.000So why would I... You said you were best friends at the beginning, right?
01:20:58.000I see their psyche and I see their subconscious programming.
01:21:03.000I see how they think, how they talk, what they're interested in, how they can use men for this, that, the other.
01:21:08.000And if she died and I became a widow, I swear to God, I'm so repulsed by the common female that I would not be seeking casual sexual encounters.
01:21:20.000It would take me a while and then I would be looking for something much more serious.
01:23:55.000He has his wife, and he's like, he's princess, and he looks like he knows friends have cheated, and he's like, literally, just like, he's disgusted by it.
01:24:01.000Oh, he definitely fucked other bitches, though.
01:25:25.000I understand your opinion of marriage differs from Matt Walsh, but if you ever considered having him on the pod for couples intervention, it would provide multiple perspectives for the couples.
01:27:32.000And I do agree with you, but when she becomes...
01:27:35.000A mother, I think a value is really increased.
01:27:38.000That's personal worth versus sexual market value.
01:27:41.000And then the reason why we're making that separation is because that's where your revenue is generated from right now, is your sexual market value.
01:29:10.000But you have something now, and if you lost it, it would definitely put stress on your relationship.
01:29:16.000Back then, remember, we spoke about this earlier.
01:29:18.000You said you didn't like that you did the show last time because obviously it had some sex scenes in it, but now at your value, would you say yes to that?