On this episode of Fresh & Fit, host Donovan Sharpe sits down with a panel of men from all over the world to discuss the importance of the Red Pill and why it's not going away anytime soon. The guys discuss how they got their start in the Red Bull world, how they came to be, and why the Manosphere is not going anywhere.
00:06:18.000She's got a 13-month-old that she's trying to wrangle.
00:06:21.000Please do not adjust your television sets.
00:06:23.000This is a very important episode tonight, guys.
00:06:26.000And we're going to go all the way back to the beginning, but I want to give you guys sort of the overarching message of why we're all here.
00:06:33.000We all know that the Red Pill, the Manosphere, etc., etc., we've taken a lot of slings and arrows over the years.
00:06:40.000It appears that our reputation has been greatly, greatly sullied.
00:06:44.000And I think what we want to do here tonight is to let you guys know that, hey, we are still here for you.
00:07:29.000I'm getting ESG social credit score points for hanging out with Modern Life John because he's a special needs person who definitely has special needs.
00:09:00.000I don't have the traditional Red Bull story where I was a virgin until I was 25, and then I read the Rational Mail, and my whole life was changed.
00:09:09.000I kind of grew up around women all the time, and I was never really afraid to talk to them.
00:09:16.000I think that's the largest battle most guys have, is they're just afraid to talk to girls.
00:09:21.000And I think once you get to talk to women, you talk to enough women, you start to notice a pattern.
00:09:28.000I used to browse the Red Pill subreddit in 2009, 10, and 11 before it got PSYOPed and then they deleted it.
00:09:43.000I was looking for people to link up with and just reading reports, reading field reports.
00:09:50.000Back in the day, there was a lot more guys taking action and a lot less theory on there.
00:09:55.000And then, you know, I actually started, I had a mentor, which I think is the backbone of all success.
00:10:45.000There was a big divide happening between flashy advice that looked good for clicks, views, and television and real advice that actually got women to follow you and serve you and want to be by your side.
00:11:01.000You didn't have to trick women to be with you.
00:11:06.000You became a quality man, and they wanted to be around you.
00:11:11.000And then I think it was 2013, 2014, 2015. That's kind of when we had the Mike Sertovich, Danger and Play, the Bold and Determined, Victor Pride, that kind of blogging era of masculinity.
00:11:28.000That's when you started making your plays, too, Don.
00:11:58.000We had that big resurgence in 20—I think it started in 2018. And I was always telling you guys, and I was always telling you guys back in 2018, 2019, I said, dude, because I had left America.
00:12:09.000See, I left America because I saw the writing on the wall of how America was going to be where it is now.
00:12:14.000I left in 2012, and I knew that we were going to reach a critical mass, and I knew that red pill was eventually going to hit the mainstream and people were going to be publicly aware because girls in America, like I'm sorry.
00:12:26.000They're just like on a global level, American women at the very bottom.
00:12:40.000Nobody's lining up to, like, oh, man, I dream of being with an American girl, unless it's, like, some Indian, you know, trying to come to America, and he thinks all girls are blonde and blue eyes.
00:12:49.000You know, guys are thinking, like, man, I want a Brazilian girl.
00:12:54.000Man, I want to be with, like, a hot European girl, like a Ukrainian, a Russian.
00:12:58.000No one's really lusting after American women.
00:13:01.000So I saw the writing on the wall, and I saw what was going to happen, and I just...
00:13:03.000Sat down and I started live streaming consistently in 2019 with one purpose and one purpose only.
00:13:08.000Getting as many guys to come and sit down and actually do the work and do the things necessary to transform their lives.
00:13:17.000Because anybody who's anybody and who's worth their salt will tell you, there's no way you're going to make massive transformation on your own.
00:13:26.000I don't think anybody in this panel has gone without mentorship.
00:13:30.000I don't think anybody here would speak against mentorship either because that's the only way you're going to learn.
00:13:36.000If you want to learn something in college, you've got to go learn from somebody who's already done it.
00:13:39.000You want to go learn boxing, you're not going to raid a boxing textbook in your garage and become a world champion, right?
00:14:05.000Clary, tell us the Aaron Clary superhero origin story because you are, and it's interesting because when I first got to know you, I was not aware that you were red-pilled.
00:14:15.000I remember asking, well, you're not red-pilled.
00:14:17.000You were like, yeah, definitely red-pilled.
00:14:18.000But you come from the minimalist financial shrewdness side of living the red-pilled life, sort of taking control of things.
00:14:27.000How did you get started in this space?
00:14:33.000I started my blog in 2004 from a financial, economic, political perspective.
00:14:38.000And there's plenty of stuff to talk about in those fields.
00:14:41.000But it was also red pill in a way that you've been being lied to about many other things outside of women and dating, which is economics, politics and all that.
00:14:48.000And then invariably, the two worlds would meet.
00:14:51.000Because if you think about it, men spend a tremendous amount of their time, money, and resources on the pursuit of women.
00:14:57.000Matter of fact, it's most of their time, money, and resources, especially if you're younger.
00:15:01.000And it was inevitable that you'd have to talk about your time budget and personal finances and personal choices you'd make, not just in terms of cars or houses or interest rates, but hey, what are you doing with women, especially with the financial risk of divorce?
00:15:17.000That evolved, and then I made the jump from blogging to podcasting.
00:15:22.000Then we did podcasting to YouTube in 2014, because I had enough books out by that time.
00:15:30.000I created Asshole Consulting as kind of a joke to get people to say, look, I can't answer all your questions, so I'm going to have to charge you, thinking no one would pay me.
00:15:41.000Here we are, where most people did, and that took a life on its own.
00:15:46.000And that's kind of the evolution of how I got onto YouTube.
00:15:49.000That's my main performance on YouTube, is answering those people's kind of Dear Abby questions, except from Red Pill Community Lens, which includes finance now, as well as dating and all that other stuff.
00:16:00.000And so, yeah, fast forward, what, 21 years later?
00:17:06.000I wanted to stay out of this professionally.
00:17:08.000I was still working at a fund as a quantitative analyst.
00:17:11.000And then later on, I think there were kind of a couple of inflection points.
00:17:17.000First was I started the podcast in July of 2021. And I had a bunch of friends who wanted to come on, and so I started doing a podcast.
00:17:29.000And I'll tell you, it was probably 2015, Ty Lopez introduced me to Dr. David Buss from the University of Texas at Austin, who's the world's foremost evolutionary psychologist.
00:17:39.000So I started to get really heavy into evolutionary psychology, read every book I could by Robert Trivers and Jeffrey Wilson and every single content creator that I could find or every single PhD I could find on the subject.
00:17:51.000And then I started my own company, Men of Action, probably December 2019. It didn't really take off until the next year, but we had a lot of demand because I had been speaking for several years before that.
00:18:03.000And then what I wanted to do was take all these outrageous experiences I would have at the Playboy Mansion or at the Maxim parties, and I was trying to share with men how I got to this place.
00:18:14.000And then try to use a scientific backing behind it.
00:18:17.000And so, my 10th episode, I had Bulzerian on, and then later on, I had Dr. Buss on, and then later on, I had Rollo on.
00:18:24.000Now, the reason why I had Rollo on was I did a bikini, so I host the three biggest bikini competitions in the world.
00:18:29.000One at What Republic for 100 grand, the one for Paradise Challenge Black Tape Project, and then I host Swimsuit USA every November.
00:18:37.000The one I did for Wet Republic, I had one time where I had like 70 girls at the show and I have this video where I'm walking down the staircase and the girls are just following me.
00:18:46.000And I can't remember what the music was or whatever.
00:18:48.000Anyway, Andrew Tate, his people reached out to me after he saw the video, liked the video, started following me.
00:18:53.000He reached out to me on Instagram and then me and Andrew started talking back and forth.
00:18:57.000And we were talking about doing a podcast together.
00:19:00.000Andrew said he was going to come to the States back then.
00:19:02.000And I was actually, it was funny because he still had a lot of heat on him.
00:19:05.000And I was talking to some of the nightlife directors for MGM and some other places because I figured if Andrew was going to come back to the States, he was going to have to keep it under wraps.
00:19:12.000So I was planning, I was like, hey bro, if you come here, G14 classification, I'll take care of it.
00:19:18.000Make sure nobody harasses you or whatever.
00:19:20.000He says, I can't come to the States, but you need to.
00:19:23.000Could you talk to my buddy, Justin Waller?
00:19:25.000He's like one of my close friends, whatever.
00:19:35.000We just have a very, very, there's almost nothing Justin and I disagree with when it comes to like Red Pill stuff.
00:19:40.000And then Justin then goes the next week to see Rolo in Reno, does a show with him.
00:19:46.000Rolo then sees my stuff and then he goes, hey man, Do you want to do a podcast?
00:19:51.000He comes, and I had, because I'd read all Rolo's books, I do a four-hour podcast with Rolo, and he'll tell you even to this day, it's the most, it's the most, I have the most intricate podcast with Bilzerian, with Adam Sosnick.
00:20:02.000With Rolo Tomasi, like certain guys I do, I'll say Aaron Clary too.
00:20:06.000When I interviewed Aaron, I go through all of their books before I do the interview.
00:21:50.000And then I also partnered with Blazerian for his Sigma Society brand as one of the coaches there.
00:21:54.000So that's pretty much where I've been since then.
00:21:57.000And I try to, for this space, and I think Aaron does the same thing.
00:22:01.000I try to, if you have discussions about these topics with coworkers, family members, blue-pilled alphas, or women who absolutely have no idea what they're talking about, and you want data in order to win the debate.
00:22:15.000My show is about providing you with data, actual hard science, data, evolutionary psychology studies to show, like, for instance, promiscuity is not good for men or women.
00:22:28.000It causes both men and women to have lower marital satisfaction, but the variance in women is two to one versus men.
00:22:35.000Women show even more, more marital dissatisfaction the higher their body count is.
00:22:41.000That's something why I have a friend of mine, he's a Hollywood director.
00:22:43.000He shows this to his assistant who's like super woke and she's like, no, that's misogynistic.
00:22:47.000No, it's a fact that's backed up by data and science.
00:22:51.000So what I tried to do with my podcast and Access Vegas is give guys in this space data and science, hard facts in order to have these discussions so that people, because again, If something is true, it is not racist.
00:23:05.000If something is true, it is not bigoted.
00:23:07.000If something is true, it is not misogynistic.
00:23:31.000Before I get to fresh, what you just said about Rolo Tomasi, the way you described it, it's not that Rolo, it's not that he was teaching us anything we didn't already know.
00:23:42.000We as men, men and women, we intrinsically understand things because it's in our very firmware.
00:23:47.000Rolo just put, he just explained it to us.
00:23:49.000It's almost like, yes, I knew this to be true.
00:23:51.000And I think that's why the rational male, for a lot of reasons, is the dynamite.
00:23:55.000Fresh, you are one half of the Fresh and Fit podcast, man.
00:23:58.000Obviously, one of the most famous people in the world.
00:24:00.000How did you get started in this space?
00:24:03.000Real quick, I got to say, man, Donovan, you're a good moderator, man.
00:24:22.000What happened was I started applying for jobs, finally got a job, worked two jobs, Chick-fil-A and AT&T. And then, funny enough, I started saving money, investing money as well into myself.
00:24:34.000Then I looked at real estate, how to invest as well, how to further my career.
00:24:38.000And then I started living a good lifestyle.
00:25:40.000Women, marriage, and, like, single mothers, right?
00:25:43.000And, obviously, you guys say, obviously, it's an L, but I understood one thing from that experience, is that if I was going to win at life and be successful, I can't make mistakes like that anymore.
00:29:10.000I think it was Honey Badger Radio or something like that.
00:29:15.000But not long after that, I actually started my own channel in like 2015, which predominantly dealt with issues about child support, family court, things of that nature.
00:29:30.000And from there, it just kind of took off.
00:29:32.000I linked up with a lot of different guys, many of which you know.
00:30:31.000Well, you know, the thing that's funny is I used to do Pat Campbell's terrestrial radio show, and he would introduce me to Godfather Manosphere, and then it just stuck after that.
00:30:43.000If you count what I did in the So Suave days, in the forum days, I've been doing this for probably 22 years now, 23. So, as you guys know, I am the author of the Rational Mail series of books, but everybody always goes back to the first book.
00:31:30.000And so from that point on, I just did The Rational Mail, my blog in 2011. The first book came out, published in 2013. And the last one I published was in 2022. So I've been doing this for quite some time.
00:31:44.000Then there was the YouTube years, I guess.
00:31:49.000And actually, I didn't even have a channel until Pat Campbell said, hey, let's do a show on Sundays.
00:31:55.000That's why people keep asking me, why do you- I remember those.
00:31:58.000Why do you do your shows on Sundays at 1 p.m.
00:32:12.000So and then I just kept doing it after he passed away.
00:32:16.000And then just I started working with Mike in August of 2022. And we just got together through Justin.
00:32:27.000Justin Waller and Justin put us together and so we did one podcast on his show and then after that I said hey do you want to do a Do you want to do Access Vegas?
00:32:36.000Well, we didn't call it Access Vegas at the time, but I said, do you want to do a show?
00:32:38.000He's like, hell yeah, I want to do a show.
00:32:40.000So I started just making commutes down from Reno to Vegas, and the travel just got too much, so now I'm actually living in Vegas.
00:32:51.000I've been living in Vegas for almost in March.
00:33:39.000When you begin to, because something tells me you were probably a little bit more red pill aware before you found the Rational Mail, right?
00:33:54.000And I just, I remember the first time being 21, 22 years old and seeing a woman come into the dressing room and her husband or her boyfriend had beaten the crap out of her.
00:34:03.000All the girls being like, oh my God, that was terrible.
00:34:46.000And the only real experience I had with this was that I was an approach coach for the Venusian Arts and Mystery back in 2009, 2010. Oh, wow.
00:34:54.000Yeah, so I was doing, I was trying that whole pickup part of it, but more to get over approach anxiety.
00:35:01.000It was like, it didn't feel very authentic.
00:35:03.000What happened for me, the breaking point for me was in 07 when I was stationed at Warner Robins Air Force Base in Warner Robins, Georgia, and I would commute to Atlanta, and I met these club promoters that would go out, and there would be 70 girls with them.
00:35:18.000They'd always be dating tens, maybe four or five of them at once, and I was like, something is different here than what the pickup artists are telling me and what I'm seeing in the forums.
00:35:26.000Let me reverse engineer this and then let me, but I don't want to be a club promoter.
00:36:46.000Let me ask you, let me ask you a question.
00:36:48.000Let me ask you a question, Michael, and I wanted to pose this to the panel.
00:36:51.000How has dating changed since you, since you ran that strip club?
00:36:55.000When you saw that girl say, I'm going to leave this guy, he beat the crap out of me.
00:36:59.000Then two months later, you know, she comes back, beat, beat, you know, crap beat everybody.
00:37:02.000But say, how in your opinion has, has the dating landscape changed since?
00:37:07.000Your discovery, I guess, of what we now call Red Pill Truth to now here in 2025. Yeah, so it's changed so much, and I wanted to actually go back and give specifics.
00:37:18.000So before 2004, text messaging is not prevalent in the United States, and there's no bottle service before 2004. If you read kind of the origin of bottle service in the United States, like the table bottle service, was Marquee Nightclub owned by Jason Strauss in Manhattan, probably 2003, 2004, somewhere around that area.
00:37:36.000Once that happened, then what happened was, you started now, for those of you who are really older, like me and Aaron Clary and Rollo probably remember this, Hooters used to have beautiful women.
00:37:44.000I know you guys think I'm out of my mind and that I'm crazy.
00:37:47.000Put a one in the chat if you guys are old enough to remember.
00:38:11.000Then when bottle service happened, there was two things that kind of, well, three, text messaging, MySpace, and bottle service started to extract some of the attention away from the guy who goes into the bar and meets the girl.
00:38:26.000It becomes a little bit of a distraction.
00:38:32.000I can now mass text girls as a promoter.
00:38:35.000I can show, I can display my status on MySpace.
00:38:39.000These are just like preliminary things.
00:38:40.000Still, most girls are not on MySpace, like in O4. And then bottle service, now you start having girls making 150, 200 grand a year as a bottle service waitress at some of these bigger and bigger clubs.
00:38:51.000And then later on, Dre's opens up in Las Vegas and then Access Nightclub.
00:38:54.000And then there's also these big clubs in Miami and New York.
00:38:59.000So now this, this thing started cranking up.
00:39:01.000And then once we get to Facebook and then Instagram, now it's like, now the idea of becoming an influencer and getting paid to do that is even more prevalent.
00:39:09.000So now prettier girls are being, their attention is being sucked away from the IRL market of going out and meeting people.
00:39:18.000The nightclub scene in Los Angeles is absolutely garbage now because of what's happened because of this.
00:39:24.000So what's happened is now before, let's just say like 1997, a girl would have to go to a club to show off her new dress, her haircut, her nails.
00:39:43.000Like strip clubs used to be full of tens.
00:39:45.000Yeah, and then so now we get to probably around 2019 and then 2020. OnlyFans starts like 2018, something like that.
00:39:54.000When OnlyFans happens during the pandemic, that is the ultimate death knell.
00:39:58.000Because what happens is now the girls leave the strip club.
00:40:01.000The girls that are in the bottle service, they stop working in bottle service.
00:40:04.000And girls going out on a regular basis are getting so much validation through social media because they don't have to go out.
00:40:11.000We just showed this clip the other day.
00:40:14.000Every week, five new nightclubs in London are closing down because people are not going out anymore.
00:40:20.000It was actually Owen Cook, former professional pickup artist, who was sending me these videos.
00:40:24.000He's like, when I go out, guys, you've never...
00:40:27.000I went to Ladue in Los Angeles in 2006, and I saw nothing but tents.
00:40:31.000I go to any nightclub in any city in America, and there's way more dudes than girls.
00:40:35.000And so what's happened is the virtual nature of dating, which is dating apps.
00:40:41.000uh instagram etc has caused it where there's a few guys at the top that are able to display massive amounts of value passively with low perceived effort and a large group of men that are suffering now unless you're extremely good looking or you're rich or something like that those guys i'm not talking about those guys i'm talking about average guys and your numbers bear that out you know 26 of men under 30 are virgins two-thirds of men under 30 are single On dating apps, men match six out of every 1,000 right swipes.
00:41:33.000If you don't believe me, I'll show it to you.
00:41:35.000So what's happened is there's a group of guys who are doing really well, and they're doing even better than they've ever done before.
00:41:42.000And then there's a large group of guys that are going without sex for two or three years.
00:41:46.000And social media has made it where women, now before, you had the guy who was the eight, let's just say he's the personal injury attorney in Wichita.
00:41:53.000He marries the cute girl who works at Hooters, and that doesn't happen anymore.
00:41:57.000The cute girl who works at Hooters, and I'm using a specific example.
00:42:01.000There's an influencer named JoJo Vonsothy.
00:42:02.000She lived in Wichita when I lived there as well.
00:42:40.000The skill set that I would teach you to have boundaries, you know, talk with bass in your voice, go to the gym, level up as a man, is now deemed toxic by the American Psychological Association.
00:42:50.000So now, not only is what was being taught that was helping you with women not being taught, it's now being taught by woke liberal organizations that what I'm teaching you is now harmful and toxic.
00:43:03.000Traditional masculinity deemed harmful by the American Psychological Association.
00:43:07.000They came out with this finding in 2019. Yeah, I remember when that happened.
00:43:11.000So all of these things are confluenced together to create this quagmire that we're in right now where there's a bunch of women who think that they can date these men who are tens because they fucked a ten, they think they can date a nine, and they can't get anyone to commit the lowest marriage rate in history.
00:44:26.000And it has to do mainly with technology.
00:44:28.000Like I said before, starting with text messaging, bottle service, then later on social media, Instagram, then OnlyFans, Patreon, etc.
00:44:36.000That's where we've gotten into the place that we are now.
00:44:39.000And then like, so me and Fresh will host a panel show and we have these OnlyFans influencers who are like dying to come on our show 'cause they want more attention so they can get more simps to subscribe to their OnlyFans.
00:44:48.000And then it's become this incredible business model for them, but they don't go out to clubs.
00:45:06.000And then I show them photos of these massive events I throw where it's like 25 girls for every guy.
00:45:11.000And they can't comprehend that social circle and social media being a leader with women is actually the cheat code for getting women in 2025. Okay, wow, very good answer.
00:45:23.000So we're going to go MLD, then we're going to go Angry Man, then we're going to go Clary.
00:45:26.000So MLD, you are uniquely qualified to talk about, you know, the dating market, obviously, in Tokyo.
00:45:32.000You're not really up on what's going on here in the United States outside of what we tell you.
00:45:37.000So since you entered the manosphere, the Red Pill community, in your opinion, how has the dating market changed from your perspective?
00:45:44.000Well, I think I'll just address the elephant in the room.
00:47:37.000Now, factor in the whole prevalence of the feminist movement being perpetuated at an exponential rate through these social media companies.
00:47:46.000We have the largest amount of insufferable chicks at all-time highs, especially in America, because all of this stuff, and if you look at what's going on with the USAID, I'm not going to get too political here, but it's literally feminism and anti-male rhetoric has now been Documented to be funded by the United States government.
00:48:04.000So you didn't have this back in the day.
00:48:10.000We're a couple generations down from the grassroots feminist movement.
00:48:15.000And what's happening now is you're having women.
00:48:20.000Divorce at an all-time high, and when a woman divorces a man, she's not sitting around saying, oh, your father was a great guy, and I just left him because I'm a psychopath.
00:48:29.000No, it's your father was a terrible guy.
00:48:35.000He's, you know, you know, it's funny recently, too, when I was younger, and now I'm 39, but when I was younger, guys were normal.
00:48:42.000But every time I talk to a girl right now, anywhere around the planet, I don't know what's going on, but every guy she dated is a narcissistic abuser.
00:48:52.000Every ex-boyfriend is a narcissistic abuser.
00:48:55.000So either we have a gigantic narcissistic abuser problem with men, which is not the case whatsoever, but I just think that the indoctrination has really gotten out of control.
00:49:06.000And when I come back to America, you guys got to understand, I see it from the outside.
00:49:11.000I don't live – I've not lived consistently in America.
00:49:13.000I've not lived in America since 2016, right?
00:49:18.000The thing is, with the whole, you know, the single mother thing is really what I really think is really breaking America, because A, they're raising weak guys who either hate themselves because their mother is psyoping them on a daily basis, saying your dad is bad, men are bad.
00:49:38.000And then you're raising young girls to hate their fathers.
00:49:40.000So these girls don't even know how to act.
00:49:43.000And then when they're born, too, and I like how Clary touches on this on his show, because when the women are born from kindergarten, it's like, you're the best.
00:49:52.000You can be an astronaut and the CEO, and you can have babies.
00:51:31.000So I think, you know, like when they choose to be friends with the girls, I'm like, it's just, why would you get on a dating app and accept something you don't want?
00:51:39.000You know, if you went to Chick-fil-A and you ordered something and you got a fish sandwich, would you take it?
00:51:44.000You'd be like, no, I'm at Chick-fil-A. Of course not.
00:51:47.000So why are you giving me fish sandwich?
00:51:49.000But a lot of these guys have no self-respect because they're raised in a household, a single mother, and you have a culture that's consistently beating them down when literally, like, some of us here are on a government's watch list.
00:51:58.000Like, people who are here are like, you know, this is the tax masculinity report.
00:52:51.000I really place a lot of the responsibility on men because at the end of the day, it's the men who accept these terms.
00:52:58.000If men weren't shilling out money and simping and giving validation and signing up for OF and all that stuff, we wouldn't have this problem.
00:53:07.000We can sit here and cry about women all we want, but the reality is it's 1,000% on the men.
00:53:13.000Okay, I apologize for my niece that's screaming in the background.
00:53:17.000I'm going to go to Angry Man, then I'm going to go to Clary, then Rollo.
00:53:20.000Angry Man, in your opinion, how has the dating market, the dating dynamics changed since you got into this community, since you started your YouTube channel?
00:53:30.000Well, I myself, I'm no longer in the dating game.
00:53:37.000But one of the things that I noticed is that We have this crisis of masculinity right now.
00:53:48.000And what I keep noticing, which is really frightening, because when I first came into the space, when I first started dropping content and everybody else was dropping content, it was like a revolution.
00:54:02.000It was like, finally, the men are waking up to the bullshit, right?
00:54:11.000As soon as the guys started dropping the content, dropping the knowledge, all of a sudden there was this pushback from this sort of gynecratic force.
00:54:22.000All of a sudden you see women flooding the space.
00:54:24.000All of a sudden you see women putting out content.
00:54:27.000And it's really pervasive type content.
00:54:31.000It's really content that I kept noticing that the guys are falling for.
00:54:35.000Now I can't tell if the guys are falling for it because the chick is sitting there on the panel with...
00:54:40.000You know, her boobs pushed together, you know, popping up out of her top or whatever.
00:54:44.000But they just seem to be falling for it.
00:54:47.000You know, like, they're falling for it.
00:54:49.000And I start to hear guys use language like emotional intelligence and...
00:56:02.000What I try to do on my show is I try to focus on masculinity.
00:56:08.000I try to school the guys on, look, man, we're men.
00:56:13.000We're not supposed to be a watered-down version of what women think we're supposed to be.
00:56:20.000Half the time, women don't even know what they're supposed to be.
00:56:23.000So how are they going to tell men what they're supposed to be?
00:56:25.000You know, as far as I can tell, that's what I've been seeing in the space, especially since there have been more women coming to the space, in addition to, oh my God, in addition to the guys that know that certain people don't like red pill content.
00:56:43.000So what they do is they try to capitalize on that audience, making anti-rhetoric, you know what I'm saying?
00:57:43.000Yeah, so, I mean, the only thing I'll say, not to get too political, make no mistake about it, when the election happened this past year, it was definitely masculinity versus the gynocracy.
00:57:58.000It was definitely, so for us to get that victory, I feel like, you know, maybe there's some hope we can push this back to the natural order of things, so, you know, that's how I feel about it.
00:58:12.000Let's switch gears here because we're still good on time, but if we continue like this, we're going to end up running short on time.
00:58:20.000We understand, you know, what the Manosphere is now.
00:58:23.000Over the past, I would say, five to six, maybe seven years, the Manosphere has really, really, the reputation of the Manosphere has really been sullied.
00:58:31.000And it's funny because I mentioned this years and years ago.
00:58:35.000Our biggest attractors these days are not just women.
00:58:39.000It's other people who consume this stuff.
00:58:42.000And I never have the chat up because it's just so much vitriol and hate.
00:58:49.000And I'm going to start with Rolo here because, Rolo, I think that you were probably one of the first people that I knew who was directly a friendly fire, I guess as we should say.
00:59:03.000What do you think is the biggest factor in terms of the Manosphere's reputation being dragged through the mud?
00:59:09.000Because obviously we're here to help men.
00:59:11.000But again, it just seems that most men, at least in the chat and in the comments section, are here really just to kind of troll us when it's them that we're trying to help.
00:59:20.000So what do you think was the biggest factor in sort of turning that tide?
00:59:23.000I think a couple of things have happened and maybe this even answers your first the first question too at the same time is first off I think that a lot of the guys that are part of the quote-unquote Manosphere right now were don't know Any of the history of it.
00:59:39.000If you look this up, it's actually a term.
00:59:48.000They just care about what the fuck's going on right now.
00:59:50.000And they could give two flying fucks about who came before them, who's going to come after them.
00:59:54.000It's all about whatever's happening in the now.
00:59:57.000And so for this sort of new crop or this new generation of guys who've come into the quote-unquote red pill, they don't know who came before them.
01:00:07.000Hey, no, I came up sometime in 2019, right?
01:00:11.000And it's like, I've been doing this really since I can show you, I can show you the first time I used the term red pill on the social forums.
01:01:20.000So if you go and you look, I can remember seeing, geez, it wasn't even that long ago, where it was, I think it was Destiny, who was on Chris Williamson's show.
01:01:29.000And he was saying, is the Red Pill dead?
01:01:45.000I know Aaron does because it was in March of 2021 when I was on you guys' show and you said, do you think the red pill is going mainstream?
01:02:01.000And the reason why I said that is because the people who are going to come into the space, there's going to be people who are bad actors who come into the space, who are going to be taken as authorities in this space and know nothing about the history and know nothing about the background.
01:02:37.000Yeah, well, I mean, I've been naming names, but the thing is, is that, I mean, I couldn't name names then because I didn't know who they were gonna be in March of 2021, right?
01:02:47.000So I'm just saying, look, I hope not because I was just coming out while we were coming out of an election cycle.
01:03:36.000If I try to do something like, you know, social issues or religion or I try to do a fishing channel, people are never going to take me fucking serious.
01:03:44.000Because this is just what I've been doing for the last 25, you know, 20, 25 years right now.
01:03:48.000And, I mean, even Aaron has been with me for, like, at least since 2012. 2,800 years ago.
01:04:09.000The biggest problem right now is people just – and they don't care.
01:04:14.000And I'll tell you, the other thing that's going to happen, if you want a prediction in all of this, I think it's only going to get worse.
01:04:19.000People are just going to move on to something else, and they're going to call it the red pill.
01:04:22.000As I said even back then, I said people turn the red pill into their own sort of personal brand or their own – to be whatever their personal pet ideology happens to be at that time.
01:04:32.000And for me, it's always been about intersexual dynamics.
01:05:23.000But in general, what do you think is the biggest factor that has really, really sullied the reputation of the Manosphere of the Red Pillars?
01:05:29.000I don't know if I agree with the premise.
01:06:12.000So yeah, you'll have people like that, or maybe you have people that say stupid things, or someone gets drunk.
01:06:19.000The infighting, honestly, I'd say the biggest thing right now, and Rolo touched on it, is you got these posers who just got their pubes last week, and they're viewing the red pill.
01:07:44.000It's a money-making operation for him.
01:07:47.000Whereas if you go back in the old days, back when Rollo and I were young and the cars first came out.
01:07:55.000It was an original, authentic, hey, our experiences and what we're witnessing in the real world is not quarreling with what we're being told by our elders.
01:08:05.000And thus started what I would call the largest meta-study.
01:08:09.000In the history of the world, and that is men comparing notes in the blogging days, ancient as it may have been.
01:08:15.000And every one of us came, you know, Mike is a cat or was a captain in the military.
01:08:19.000He also was in finance, Rolo Marketing.
01:10:26.000I literally just got off the plane and came over here as fast as I can because obviously this is a very important conversation.
01:10:33.000I've been listening to the conversation the whole time and you know that kind of brings me and I love that I came in at this point and this kind of brings to why I wanted to bring all you guys together.
01:10:46.000We saw the explosion of red pill awareness in the early 2020s through the pandemic with the meteoric rise of Us, Andrew Tate, Sneeko, Pearl, etc.
01:10:56.000Where I know some of you guys are like, hey, some of these people are grifters, etc.
01:10:59.000Which I could definitely see that argument.
01:11:01.000But I do think when it comes to awareness of this situation, it's had a residual effect by benefiting and getting exposure to other guys.
01:11:11.000Because as you guys know, we work very tightly with a lot of you guys.
01:11:15.000Because I truly do believe if you become successful, you've got to bring up the people that came alongside you.
01:11:20.000Which is why I'm so big on like, you know.
01:11:22.000Making sure that we bring you guys on too because there would be no fresher fit if it weren't for a lot of the members on this panel.
01:11:29.000But the other reason too while I was like yo we need to unite is because of this topic that you guys are on right now.
01:11:36.000We have an influx of piece of shit loser commentary YouTube channels that do nothing when it comes to actually helping men with the solutions and becoming better and being able to take control of their life.
01:11:49.000Instead they give Bullshit commentary with bad editing and jump cuts, right?
01:11:55.000Saying, oh, these guys are toxically masculine alphas, blah, blah, blah.
01:12:00.000There's an entire industry designed to attack masculinity by other men.
01:12:06.000They're there to make jokes, insult, say that this stuff is all a scam, etc.
01:12:14.000If you tell someone, hey, you need to go to the gym every day, you need to go to, you know, make money, become successful, you need to learn game, you need to understand that women and men are completely different and you've got to do all this work, most guys don't want to hear that.
01:12:43.000Because human beings are lazy creatures by default, right?
01:12:46.000They go but the path of least resistance.
01:12:49.000So what they quickly realized was, if I can go after these guys and call them fake gurus or call them scammers or whatever it may be, right, and tell them they don't really need to sell proof like that, I'll get a hell bunch of views, and I'm able to clown these guys, and they're gonna come watch me.
01:13:35.000The Department of Homeland Security wrote a paper, right, saying that, hey, manosphere content is toxic, it's problematic, etc.
01:13:42.000And they sent this over to YouTube and these other platforms.
01:13:45.000And I noticed a stark contrast where...
01:13:47.000A lot of these channels were getting pushed in the algorithm, you know, significantly.
01:13:51.000And as soon as this paper came out, a couple months after that, there was a whole bunch of guys losing, you know, views, getting pushed in the algorithm, etc.
01:13:59.000So there's been a concerted fucking effort, okay, to keep men in the dark about female nature, to keep men in the dark about self-improvement, to keep men in the dark about just becoming better in general.
01:14:10.000Because people would rather watch idiots like Moist Critical, Anus and Reach, and these guys that make you feel good for seven minutes as they do their stupid editor clip, versus guys that will sit here and go line by fucking line on how to become a better man.
01:14:23.000Now, the other thing too that I think is very important is that by me going into the political world and me getting into different spaces and dealing with different creators from different genres...
01:14:33.000What I've realized is this red pill awareness is more needed than ever before.
01:14:37.000Because as much as guys are fucking successful in different realms, whether it's politics or culture or some other shit, a lot of them don't understand women.
01:14:46.000If you don't figure out women, you're never going to be fucking successful.
01:14:50.000Because your inability to control your woman or your inability to attract women, it's always going to be eating at you and distracting you from what you should be doing.
01:14:56.000John always famously said this, and I agree with him 100%.
01:14:58.000If you can't handle this and figure out how to deal with women properly, it's going to fuck you up long term.
01:15:03.000Either it's going to fuck you up in the beginning where you don't know how to deal with them and you lose all your money, like Eric Clary said, where guys spend a ridiculous amount of money early on.
01:15:11.000Or it's going to fuck you up later on in life where you make the money, you become successful, you get the title, but you don't know how to deal with them, and then you lose everything that way, which we see with a lot of celebrities and athletes.
01:15:20.000So this type of content is extremely needed because no one gives a fuck about men, man.
01:15:25.000I'm here to tell you, even the men don't give a fuck about men.
01:15:28.000So the reason why I brought all you guys together, and I want to actually start doing this at least monthly, is because we need to galvanize under one.
01:15:37.000And let people know that the Red Pill ain't going fucking nowhere.
01:15:40.000Because there's always going to be a need for this shit.
01:15:42.000And these reaction commentary channels make these stupid claims.
01:16:28.000So we need to go ahead and blow that up and all of us galvanize everyone like the fucking Power Ranger type shit when they put all the monsters together, the machines together.
01:17:57.000I'm going to go to MLD here next because, John, you and I had a conversation maybe two or three weeks ago and you said, do you remember when the Manosphere, the Red Pill, was sort of at the peak and at all-time high?
01:18:18.000Those were the golden years is when we all collaborated.
01:18:22.000Now here in 2025, just like Arola talked about, there's a lot of infighting, people turning on Red Pill content creators because it's a business decision.
01:18:30.000So I guess now the overarching question is, and I think Myron really sort of gave us a good foundation.
01:20:07.000So I really don't care what people think because if I have society cheering me on, I'm going to look at myself and be like, what am I doing wrong?
01:20:46.000Literally, everything is fake and gay, and it's been funded by the United States government, okay?
01:20:52.000Anti-male rhetoric, funded by the United States government.
01:20:55.000The feminist movement, funded by the United States government.
01:20:59.000Gamergate, funded by the United States government.
01:21:01.000Yolo started this off in a fucking room in his house just writing on his laptop and then buying a mic and a camera and helping revolutionize modern America with us doing Rule Zero and whatnot moving forward.
01:21:55.000I choose to be optimistic for the future because it's my future, and that's the message I want to – I don't want to paint a dystopian future for the guy at home because these people look up to us.
01:22:06.000And if I was – you guys have to remember, I came from abject poverty.
01:22:10.000Nobody on this planet was more poor than me, and I have generated $10 million for myself and my brand.
01:24:28.000So I'm going to go to Sartain, then I'm going to go Angry Man, and then Rolo, and then I know we're running short on time because you guys have got girls showing up, and then we'll get everybody's final thoughts.
01:24:36.000So Sartain, again, you've been red-pilled for longer than you've been online.
01:24:43.000In your opinion, what can we, as a group, as a collective, what can we do to sort of reclaim, not the glory of Rome, so to speak, but how can we get back to those golden years of 14 and 15 where it was blogging and YouTube videos?
01:24:59.000Well, personally, I think the algorithm is fucking astrology at this point.
01:25:07.000Each one of us specifically doing the best we can, like what Myron says, the receipts.
01:25:11.000I have 3,300 clients that I can look back to that I've helped.
01:25:16.000Chris GQ Perry could probably not find one single person.
01:25:19.000Will Hitchens, nobody's saying, Will Hitchens changed my life and made me better with women.
01:25:22.000Not a single person is going to look back at Justin Baldani's Man Enough podcast and say, oh my God, I did this and it just got me so much vagina.
01:25:46.000When you start criticizing, like again, there's things that, like Lucario and some of the Mode 1 guys, I don't agree with stuff they say, but you're not going to see me make personal attacks against them.
01:26:09.000If you guys want to take a second, look at the video that Rollo and I did specifically over the Department of Homeland Security, spending $61 million to try to divert people from...
01:26:20.000What they thought to be toxic masculine or masculine or terroristic organizations.
01:26:26.000But 700,000 specifically was given to a program called Divert Hate.
01:26:33.000In the diverting hate thing, and this is in their literature, they were taking, they were running ads and trying to tell YouTube to divert traffic from our content to content like the Man Enough podcast.
01:27:07.000Your government was taking our content, and it was pushing it towards Justin Baldoni, the male feminist who ended up sexually harassing some girl.
01:27:34.000And I've even talked to content creators who are politically liberal.
01:27:37.000When Donald Trump came out and said, from this point forward, social media apps, we're going to propose legislation where they have to tell you when you're suspended.
01:27:46.000And why you're suspended and allow you an appeal.
01:27:50.000They cannot take your account away without due process.
01:27:53.000If that is true, and I'm going to take him at his word, that is the greatest thing in the world for us.
01:27:58.000Because like I said before, the truth cannot be misogynistic.
01:28:08.000If I show data that shows that women have lower marital satisfaction, the more sexual partners they have, or if I show that data that doesn't make me a misogynist because it's true and you demonetizing me, all you're doing is demonetizing me because I'm not fitting your narrative.
01:28:25.000If what's coming in the future is we're changing that, then that's what's terrific.
01:28:30.000But then you look at like content creators, like again, Chris GQ Perry, Will Hitchens, Justin Baldoni, the fact that these people have these massive followings when the advice they're giving is...
01:30:15.000It's never been easier if you just become aware of what the world's doing to you when it comes to inflation, dating, intersexual dynamics, whatever.
01:30:23.000If you just become marginally aware and just show the fuck up every day.
01:30:39.000And the reason why is because I choose to not listen to bullshit that I see when I watch the movie Hitch, where I'm supposed to obsess over one woman or whatever.
01:32:23.000Because like I said, also, we're heading into a post-scarcity because AI is going to get to the point where everybody's going to be supplied with everything.
01:32:29.000We're going to have everything we need.
01:32:30.000We can't suppress the truth from AI for too much longer.
01:32:34.000My issue is not getting people who don't know the truth to know the truth because they don't want to hear it.
01:32:39.000You can tell, again, I've debated flat earthers.
01:32:41.000People, like, you can show them all the evidence they want.
01:32:43.000There's some women, when you explain to them, hey, you explain certain concepts to women, they don't want to hear it even when you show them data.
01:32:50.000So people who don't understand the truth, AI, nothing is going to convince them of their beliefs, no matter what their beliefs are.
01:32:56.000My whole thing is, I should not fucking be demonetized for telling the truth.
01:33:02.000I should not be ratioed for telling the truth.
01:33:50.000I'm telling you right now, if you want to believe whatever you want to believe, whatever truth you need to believe is fine, but me as a content creator, as a coach...
01:34:16.000But at the same time, even when I show the evidence and data to support every single thing, I crush people in debates using perplexity now.
01:34:22.000Even when I do so, it doesn't matter because it doesn't feel good to them.
01:34:49.000Women who could not have pulled me out of a fire are running the fire department, and then the whole city burns down because truth means nothing to those people.
01:34:59.000But when I tell the truth, I should not be punished.
01:39:05.000I mean, even before they started with the Homeland Security stuff, you had countless people writing hit pieces and putting out these goofy articles and shit.
01:39:14.000But at this point, the influence is already there.
01:39:44.000The people that take that statement and run with it.
01:39:49.000Have lost their minds and they don't even know where it comes from.
01:39:52.000I was literally on a panel back in, I want to say 2017, where the discussion was being had where it was like, well, you know, women have broke the social contract.
01:40:04.000And as long as they've broken the social contract, the men need to abstain.
01:40:09.000You know, it was a MGTOW conversation.
01:40:12.000It was like the men need to abstain until the women finally realize What it really is.
01:40:21.000Now, if they come back to the table with something of value, then we can renegotiate the social contract.
01:40:30.000And somebody took what do you bring to the table and just ran with it.
01:40:34.000And so now it's kind of being weaponized against red pill content.
01:40:41.000And that's the annoying thing is when somebody takes something from red pill.
01:40:46.000And they try to twist it into something goofy because they don't know the origin of it or they don't know how to explain it.
01:40:55.000And they just put it out there and then some leftard is able to take it the way they presented it and then flip it and it's like a, like you said, like a gotcha moment.
01:41:42.000One person does, ain't this a read, drop a video, then the next couple of idiots all follow the same shit.
01:41:47.000That's what I'm saying, like, look, we've all grown, right?
01:41:50.000You go back, what, four or five years?
01:41:51.000Having a Red Pill channel that was over 100,000 was unheard of.
01:41:54.000I'm looking at this channel right now, everyone here has grown significantly.
01:41:57.000We got one over a million, we got several well over 100,000 closing in on a million.
01:42:02.000Obviously, with our increased reach on the different platforms, etc., that's going to become more scrutiny to the level where the fucking U.S. government is now involved.
01:42:12.000I think something that we did early on that works really well is guys need to put their fucking egos aside, and we need to start doing this shit at least.
01:42:21.000Once a month or twice a month where we do panels like this, bring everyone together, combine all the audiences, and really work together and deal with what's going on in modern dating, what's going on with politics, what's going on with masculinity in general, because things have changed drastically just over the past couple of years, right?
01:43:38.000That's why these commentary channels talk about us.
01:43:40.000I think we just need to stand in unity, though, and let guys know, like, look, we got a panel of guys.
01:43:45.000Everyone has different specialties, whether it's economic, dating, culture, masculinity, holding frame, long-term relationships, etc., academia, when we look at studies, etc.
01:43:55.000Like, we are impenetrable together because every base is covered.
01:43:59.000All these liberal lefty losers that attack the RP, they always attack it from little side points, not knowing the facts or not knowing how well-educated or how refined a lot of this stuff really is.
01:44:09.000So I think if we come together, right, we need to do this at least, and I'm willing to host it.
01:44:14.000Or we can move it to channel to channel, however you guys did it with Rule Zero, Redman Group, whatever it may be.
01:44:19.000The point is that we all need to grow together and put this stuff out there because guys need it, man.
01:46:18.000So when I was, everybody was saying, well, when Rolo was just sitting around, you know, typing out and having all these great conversations with these guys in the forum days.
01:46:33.000All I did was talk about this, and all we did was have conversations about this, which then became essays that I wrote on the blog, which then became chapters in the book, and you guys know the rest of the history right here.
01:46:43.000So, the reason I'm bringing this up is because we have had this conversation before, Donovan.
01:46:49.000In the CME, in the very first CME, we said exactly what we're saying right now.
01:47:54.000I'm the guy that sits down here and I hash stuff out.
01:47:56.000I mean, Mike found me because I have a background in evolution psychology, so that was good.
01:48:01.000You know, Michael and I are like kindred spirits, so like we do really...
01:48:06.000In Mike, I see a lot of Pat Campbell in there, and I'm not trying to stroke his ego or anything, but I think that's why we work so well together.
01:48:13.000That's why Myron and Fresh work really well together, because they're kindred spirits, so they can finish each other's fucking sentences, okay?
01:48:21.000I think what we really need to do is if we're going to do this, I'm all for it.
01:48:24.000If you guys want to do a monthly meetup or however it works out, just to sort of check in and make sure everybody's got it.
01:49:55.000Especially if we're going to be real with each other, then we better be fucking real with each other.
01:49:59.000So, you know, for all the times that we've been talking about how we need to sort of unite the tribes and everything like that, I 100% agree with that.
01:51:37.000And I'm hoping that the legacy that I leave and the dent that I leave in the universe is going to be more about my books and more about the message and more about saving mother's sons than it is going to be about what my market share was before I left or how much money I had in the bank.
01:51:53.000When Kevin Samuels died, you know how much money he had in the bank?
01:51:56.000Four and a half million fucking dollars.
01:52:06.000Because if we don't stay on point, we're all going to go our own separate ways and we're all going to be our own separate fucking brands.
01:52:12.000And if that's the case, then we're just going to do the same thing we did right after the CME and just go, everybody, hey, yeah, unity, unity, great, awesome, you know, solidarity, but we didn't do jack shit.
01:52:22.000So if we want to keep doing this and we want to have some sort of, you know, union or we want to have some sort of cohesion together, I'm all about that.
01:52:29.000If you want to do special events, if you want to do them in Vegas or South Dakota or wherever you want to go.
01:53:33.000I hate to say that shit, but it's the truth.
01:53:35.000And for us, we adopt a little bit of a different mindset where we're going to blow up and we're going to bring everybody up that came alongside us.
01:53:43.000And I've seen everyone go off on their own and build really successful independent channels.
01:53:48.000Everyone here is well over 100,000, where before, that was unheard of in the manosphere.
01:53:54.000I think from this point forward, right, sticking together and doing periodic podcasts like this where guys are able to comment on culture, current events, etc.
01:54:35.000Maybe that was the plan before he passed away.
01:54:37.000I know that he had something going on.
01:54:39.000But what I will say is when he did those Nicki Minaj collabs, when he did those big events, there was no shout-out to anybody from the sphere.
01:54:47.000And it kills me because a guy like Donovan Sharp platformed him like 80 times.
01:55:26.000way you're on you guys were on that list pearl was on that list aaron was on that list uh modern life wasn't he didn't make that oh he's not on the most wanted list like they were on that list right all these people who are on this list it's like and i need to stress the point that it's not the people who are on the list it's the fucking message It's the message that we're putting out there.
01:55:50.000You know what they want to do is not necessarily take away your subs.
01:57:04.000I want to say something real quick before we go on.
01:57:07.000As far as Black Manosphere is concerned, I want to pull up some stats here.
01:57:10.000So I want to let you guys know that...
01:57:12.000The work we all did, me as a Hispanic man, you guys as African Americans, the work we all did from, say, 2019 all the way up into the election mattered for something, okay?
01:57:23.000The Harris campaign, traditionally African Americans vote in massive blocks and Democrats.
01:57:30.000Guys, the number of African Americans...
01:57:34.000I'm going to compare 2020 to 2024. It went up to 20% from 13%.
01:57:40.000Consider all the fucking messaging that they've had.
01:57:43.000Dude, 41% of Hispanics from 35% started voting Republican.
01:57:47.000The number of African-American men under the age of 50 that voted Republican was 30%.
01:57:53.000When you consider how, for the last 70 years, how it has been ingrained for African-Americans to vote Democrat, how incredible some of these numbers are.
01:58:03.000What I'm trying to tell you is what we did for five years fucking worked.
01:58:08.000It did work because what we finally did was took minorities, Asian, Indian, Hispanic, black minorities, who had been brainwashed into voting Democrat for 70, 80 years, ever since the Dixiecrats.
01:58:21.000Finally, for the first time, when they saw the Harris campaign, put Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion out there at a fucking polit—strippers up there at a— Fucking political rally.
01:58:32.000Finally, African-American men, white men, black men said, that's not what I want in a wife.
01:58:38.000That is not the campaign I want to support.
01:58:40.000It used to be that Democrats were the party of the disenfranchised.
01:58:50.000And so because of that, when you keep showing...
01:58:52.000When I'm listening to Jennifer Lopez at a Democrat rally crying about the scary orange man, bitch, why didn't you tell us about P. Diddy while you were sitting there fucking with her before you started telling me about Donald Trump?
01:59:06.000When I'm sitting there, Jennifer Lopez makes a movie about strippers robbing men.
01:59:11.000I'm sitting there watching Cardi B, Megan Thee, Cardi B talking about robbing men when she was a stripper, and you put her up?
01:59:18.000You put her up at your Democrat rally?
01:59:26.000And there were two political parties, and one of them was like, how about traditional conservatism, masculinity, and Christianity, or whatever religion you believe in, Islam, whatever.
01:59:35.000How about we support this idea versus the other one where it's basically like, let's just promote super high body counts and unlimited abortion.
01:59:44.000And finally, I just want to say, the work we did, it worked.
01:59:48.000I don't care what anyone says, black men under 50, twice as many of them voting Republican, you don't think all the YouTube stuff we did had something to do with that?
02:00:00.000And so that was a huge, and I made the prediction before the election that massive numbers of African American and Hispanic men were going to switch their vote from Democrat to Republican, and that's what happened, and that's why the president won by six, seven million votes.
02:00:13.000Yeah, and that goes back to what I said, you know?
02:00:21.000You cheer for Cardi B. You cheer for Megan Thee Stallion.
02:00:24.000And it's going back to, I think what Rollo said is why we definitely need a gatekeeping situation with the Manosphere.
02:00:30.000Because the Manosphere and all these content creators has kind of become like cryptocurrency.
02:00:34.000And all of these new channels are like useless little meme coins that are diverting away and making people hate the Manosphere in general because they just have this...
02:00:44.000Very, very, very bad overall messaging that they're just trying to make money from it.
02:00:48.000That's the only thing they're trying to do.
02:00:50.000And I have a name I'd like to propose.
02:00:53.000I think Angry Man and Aaron would understand.
02:00:55.000Actually, all these guys would probably understand it.
02:00:56.000But we need to call it the National Organization of Men Against Amazonian Masterhood.
02:01:02.000No ma'am from the Married with Children.
02:01:18.000Let me throw one overarching point in here that I think is very important.
02:01:24.000I don't think you have to worry about the red pill going away.
02:01:26.000And the reason why is that as long as there's a male sex drive and they're lying about the sexes, there will always be a call for the red pill.
02:01:38.000That's why they're afraid of the message that we're sending out there.
02:01:42.000But when men start getting laid and men and women are happy together again, then there won't be a need for us because we'll be telling the truth about the sexes.
02:01:48.000But until you keep promoting this, frankly, feminist Marxist bullshit, where it's fun and fashionable to hate men and men are the oppressors, there will always be a red pill.
02:02:01.000And then you're fighting human nature.
02:02:03.000So I'm not worried about it going away, really worried about your legacy.
02:02:46.000And good luck in trying anything else.
02:02:48.000Yeah, and the future of social media, if you've been studying blockchain, if you've studied people like Anton Antonopoulos, you know, we're going to get to a point where we're no longer in need of these big companies like YouTube and TikTok, where we are literally slaves to their algorithm.
02:03:03.000We have, ever since Andrew Tate got arrested in 2022, and then Fresh and Fit got demonetized, all viewership has been down across the board, flat or declining.
02:05:53.000You know, hopefully YouTube switches their thing because the thing is, even though I hate YouTube, I understand that it's a necessary evil to get people to find you.
02:06:08.000So the thing is, is that we got to You gotta find the people via TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, these bot apps, and then obviously bring them to somewhere where you can talk openly, whether it's a paywall, rumble, Patreon, whatever it may be.
02:06:21.000But the point is that I think it's very important that we need to reach more guys because over the past couple years under the Biden administration, there's no doubt about it.
02:08:54.000That's why they go ahead and push idiots like Anus and Reach, Moist Critical, Filian, all these different channels that talk shit about the manosphere, all these different liberal left-leaning channels that talk shit about masculinity becoming a better man, self-improvement.
02:09:07.000They push those channels because they want to keep you poor.
02:10:40.000You can find me, I guess, at assholeconsulting.com.
02:10:45.000Latest book that might be of interest, especially to Mike, a mathematician, would be A World Without Men, an analysis of an all-female economy.
02:10:53.000But more importantly to what we're talking about here, Subscribe to all of our channels.
02:10:57.000If you guys could put our YouTube channels in there.
02:11:00.000You can't see it, Aaron, but we have everyone's channels at the corner of their picture.
02:11:04.000If your audience has 3,000 people tuning in, I just, and not because I want more subscribers, of course I want more subscribers, but I just want to see what the hell's going on with YouTube right now.
02:11:15.000If you could subscribe to that and everyone else here, I'm just curious if I'm going to be hard-lined at 127. And if it doesn't go above 127, then we know for a fact something's going on.
02:11:27.000But otherwise, yeah, that's basically it.
02:11:30.000You can find me at my channel and find out a ton of the stuff I have done written.
02:11:35.000Oh, and I officially have published my book.
02:11:37.000That means I have written more books than I have read.
02:11:40.000So I now have written more books than I have read, and I'll tell you guys about that later.
02:11:47.000Yeah, guys, if you've ever been in discussions like the ones we're having now with people who don't think the same way you do, and you have trouble, like a lot of times you know what you're saying is true, but you don't know how to back it up statistically or with data.
02:12:05.000I'm going to give you the actual data, evolutionary psychology studies, and studies from the U.S. Census data and different places like that, showing that the crisis in dating is real, the crisis in the economy is real, all these different things that we're discussing.
02:12:19.000We have logical reasons for why these things are coming.
02:12:22.000Also, if you guys, the other thing I teach is Social Circle.
02:12:25.000I'm probably the number one Social Circle coach in the world.
02:12:28.000If you guys want to learn more about Social Circle, how to throw parties where there's like seven guys, seven girls for every guy, and just date a lot of beautiful women, I've got the receipts.
02:13:58.000You want to have an above-average dating life.
02:14:00.000You want to have your finances in order.
02:14:02.000You want to have a plan, and you don't want to just be drowned in this sea of hopelessness that everybody likes to paint just for clicks and views.
02:14:55.000If you just look up the Angry Man, usually I'll come up.
02:14:59.000Also, over on my channel, you know, we occasionally talk about masculinity, things that actually help men out.
02:15:06.000As far as navigating the modern world, we've been doing a lot of conservative political talk lately because I feel like that's something that is sorely needed.
02:15:16.000We need more conservative dudes and less liberal dudes.
02:15:20.000In addition to that, you guys can check out my book.
02:15:23.000I actually have a book, The Angry Man Standard, which is basically for guys that want long-term relationships, but they want...
02:15:29.000A more traditional relationship that basically teaches them how to vet the women they want to deal with, make sure that the women that they want to deal with are on their program before they get into anything serious.
02:15:52.000Me and him had a very in-depth conversation a couple of nights ago where we went into politics, JFK. We talked about the black community and feminism, Kendrick Lamar, Super Bowl, Wyatt Flop.
02:16:04.000We went to a bunch of different political and cultural topics.
02:18:07.000Rola, I didn't know that you had this program, man.
02:18:09.000We should have you on and talk about how guys need to...
02:18:12.000Because I think that'd be a fantastic episode.
02:18:13.000It'll be one of the Red Pill Stable videos.
02:18:15.000I saw a need for it because there's so much going on as far as, like, you know, male suicide is at an all-time high, and especially after, like, a nasty divorce.
02:18:22.000That really was the germ of the idea, but then everybody else wanted to get in on that, too, and say, you know, I need help.
02:21:16.000Don't you think that blaming this on the simps when it really is all these laws that are wildly pro-women and anti-men are causing all these problems?
02:21:25.000It's a multifaceted, complex issue with many different things going on, whether it's the shadow banning of us while simultaneously promoting hater channels.
02:22:16.000Especially someone like you, making that kind of money a month.
02:22:19.000Girls are going to chew you up and spit you out, man.
02:22:22.000If you're trying to find a girl long term and you have that kind of success, what's going to happen is girls are going to fucking be chameleons up front.
02:22:29.000You're going to think you got a great girl, and then you're going to find out later on that she's not good.
02:22:32.000So you have to go through a phase where you learn female nature.
02:22:36.000You're going to get it through lumps and bruises, and it's going to suck, but you're going to have to figure that out, dude.