Fresh & Fit - August 02, 2023


Sartain & Waller Discuss Visiting Andrew Tate, NEW Trump Charges, UFOs & MORE!


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 9 minutes

Words per Minute

217.65826

Word Count

28,194

Sentence Count

2,522

Misogynist Sentences

64

Hate Speech Sentences

64


Summary

On this episode of the FreshFit Podcast, we are joined by two special guests, Michael Sartain and Justin Wallace. We talk about how they got their start in the fitness industry, what it's like being in the military, and what they do behind the scenes in order to be able to give back to the community. We also talk about some of the challenges they've faced in their careers and how they've dealt with them. We hope you guys enjoy this episode and can't wait to do it again next week on FedReacts. If you like what you hear here, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts and other Podcasts. We'll be back on YouTube starting next Monday. Until then, be sure to check us out at FreshFit.co/FreshFit and subscribe to our YouTube channel, FreshFit Clips. Also, check out the other FreshFit store, where we make some new designs for you guys! Subscribe to our Clips Channel, where you can get all kinds of merch, t-shirts, hoodies and hoodies! and more! We're going to be back next week with a new vlog, so don't miss it! Thanks for listening and keep up with us! Cheers, Cheers! Cheers. -Jon & Cole -Tune in! Jon & Cole! -J.J. "The Best Podcast in the Nation" -Jon and Cole "The Greatest Sales in the Country" "FreshFit Podcast" - Jon & Co. & Coosie "The Crew" - Jay Waller "The Jerico "Jay Waller7J" & Cozy "The Boy Who Couldn't Do It" - Michael "The Man Who Can Do It All" & Justin "The Girl Who Could Do It?" - The Boy Who's Gave It All"? - The Man Who's Got It All?" - & The Girl Who Has It All? Jon and Cozie "Why Women Deserve Less? - The Girl Can't Have It All?! - Jay "The Realest" & The Boy With It All?? and The Boy Can't Get Into It? - - And So Much More? - And He's Not Good Enough? - and So Much Better Than That? - So He's Good Enough?! - And More!


Transcript

00:00:00.000 What's up, guys?
00:00:00.000 Welcome to the Fresh Your Podcast.
00:00:01.000 We're joined with two special guests, Michael Sertain and Justin Wallace.
00:00:03.000 Get into it!
00:00:04.000 Let's go!
00:00:54.000 All right, we're back.
00:00:55.000 What's up, guys?
00:00:55.000 Welcome to the Fresh Fit Podcast, man.
00:00:56.000 Sorry for the delay, guys.
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00:01:02.000 Just so you guys know, we're going to be doing our shows earlier, so we're going to be doing the daytime show at 6 p.m., and then we're going to be doing the nighttime show at 9.
00:01:10.000 Today, we're going to start at about 9.30, because Chris is at a function right now.
00:01:14.000 But, yeah, we're hopefully...
00:01:16.000 I'm going to go ahead and push the show and make it a little bit earlier for y'all so more you guys can tune in and everything.
00:01:20.000 I know it's the late night show messing some of you guys up with waking up early.
00:01:23.000 And then all the people in another time zone.
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00:01:54.000 But yeah, cancel right now.
00:01:55.000 Yeah, but we'll be back to posting on there next week.
00:01:58.000 We got a bunch of content for y'all.
00:01:59.000 And then also, guys, check out the other one, more Fresh Fit Clips.
00:02:02.000 Also, check us out on Spotify.
00:02:03.000 And then Fresh Your Vlog.
00:02:04.000 Hey, guys, before we got canceled, man, two vlogs were up from Columbia.
00:02:07.000 Amazing trip.
00:02:08.000 Go check it out.
00:02:09.000 And more to come once the band is lifted.
00:02:11.000 So go check it out.
00:02:13.000 Cool.
00:02:13.000 And check me out, guys, on FedReacts.
00:02:17.000 We're actually going to talk a little bit about some FedReacts-type content today with Trump.
00:02:21.000 But yeah, go check it out, man.
00:02:22.000 I also got it on Spotify.
00:02:23.000 I'll be back to posting next week on it.
00:02:26.000 I'll probably do an episode for you guys maybe next Monday or next Tuesday on FedReacts to make up for lost time because I owe y'all a stream.
00:02:32.000 And then go get my book, Why Women Deserve Less.
00:02:34.000 But anyway, guys, we got two special guests in the house.
00:02:36.000 Without further ado...
00:02:37.000 Welcome back, guys.
00:02:39.000 Hey, what's going on, man?
00:02:40.000 For those that might not know, can you guys introduce yourselves?
00:02:42.000 I'm Michael Sartain.
00:02:43.000 I run Men of Action Mentoring.
00:02:44.000 It's a course I have.
00:02:45.000 I'm a former U.S. military officer.
00:02:47.000 I flew special ops for five years, and then I did some counterintel work for about two years.
00:02:52.000 I worked in the signature management offices.
00:02:55.000 So I did that for a while, and then I moved to Las Vegas.
00:02:58.000 I started hosting a bunch of events, and I host the three biggest bikini competitions in the world, and I coach MOA Mentoring.
00:03:03.000 I've been to one.
00:03:04.000 Horrible time.
00:03:04.000 Horrible time.
00:03:05.000 We had to judge the Playboy bikini competition.
00:03:07.000 It's a tough life, man.
00:03:09.000 Yep.
00:03:10.000 Jay Waller, you know where to find me.
00:03:11.000 YouTube, Jay Waller, Waller7J on Twitter.
00:03:14.000 And I actually have a new telegram room, kind of like you guys.
00:03:18.000 I'm in it.
00:03:19.000 I'm in your telegram room.
00:03:20.000 Are you?
00:03:20.000 Yeah.
00:03:20.000 So I'm putting stuff on there that I might not say online or I might not show anywhere else.
00:03:24.000 So it's good, man.
00:03:24.000 I've really enjoyed it.
00:03:25.000 I think it's up to like 20K already.
00:03:26.000 Nice.
00:03:27.000 Yeah, man.
00:03:27.000 It's really good.
00:03:28.000 And it's free.
00:03:29.000 It is free.
00:03:30.000 It is free.
00:03:30.000 And kind of some behind the scenes stuff.
00:03:32.000 Me at my house, stuff like that.
00:03:34.000 Nice.
00:03:34.000 On job site stuff.
00:03:35.000 Well, let me say this real quick.
00:03:36.000 We have a new school server.
00:03:38.000 I don't know if you guys know who Cole Gordon is.
00:03:39.000 He's one of the greatest sales trainers in the whole country.
00:03:41.000 He got me onto this new app called School.
00:03:43.000 We use it instead of Discord.
00:03:44.000 So you can mix Kajabi with Discord.
00:03:47.000 So you can put like a coaching program on there.
00:03:49.000 And so we have a free school server.
00:03:51.000 And this show that we're doing right now is on my school server.
00:03:53.000 So if you join my free school server, we give you a schedule for every single thing that I do.
00:03:57.000 And then when Justin comes and visits, you know, also the stuff that he does.
00:04:00.000 Nice.
00:04:01.000 Nice, man.
00:04:01.000 I like it.
00:04:03.000 So, guys, it's been a while since we've had you guys on.
00:04:05.000 It might more recently, but Justin, it's been a while for you, man.
00:04:08.000 I know you just were in Romania hanging out with the Tate brothers.
00:04:11.000 What was that like, man?
00:04:12.000 What's new with you?
00:04:13.000 Bro, you know, it's weird because people ask me what it's like to hang out with the guys.
00:04:17.000 It's like...
00:04:18.000 It'd be like if we were hanging out.
00:04:20.000 Yeah.
00:04:20.000 I was talking shit.
00:04:21.000 We were all talking shit, telling jokes that we shouldn't be saying or couldn't say here, you know, and making fun of each other and just being guys.
00:04:28.000 Yeah.
00:04:28.000 You know, now I will tell you, you know, we talked about business, but that's not that's not even, you know, something that would surprise you.
00:04:34.000 I tell you this, though.
00:04:35.000 It was really fun hanging with Tucker all day.
00:04:38.000 Oh, no, you were there when you was there.
00:04:39.000 Yeah, I was there when Tucker was there.
00:04:41.000 We're sitting around smoking cigars with Tucker Carlson.
00:04:44.000 All the things that we were talking about before the camera came on, bro, sit down with Tucker Carlson for five hours and talk about the state of things.
00:04:51.000 It was really, really interesting.
00:04:54.000 I learned a lot from it.
00:04:57.000 Yeah, man.
00:04:57.000 It makes you look at things in a different light.
00:04:59.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:05:00.000 I can't imagine what he knows behind the scenes that he doesn't see on camera.
00:05:02.000 Oh, yeah.
00:05:02.000 I can't imagine.
00:05:03.000 Like, I felt like a fly on the wall, you know, like getting like some inside stuff.
00:05:08.000 Dude, it's fucking Tucker Carlson, you know?
00:05:10.000 No, I'm not saying he was talking badly about America or anything.
00:05:13.000 I would never say that, but it's just like how things actually work.
00:05:16.000 Yeah.
00:05:16.000 Very, very interesting hearing his insight on the world and from not only like, you know, where America is, but like on a geopolitical level, how he understands it and what he knows, you know, it's interesting.
00:05:27.000 It's funny, as a creator, you say things online, right?
00:05:29.000 That's your only level of intelligence, but you got to hold back because if you don't hold back, then they know your whole card, so...
00:05:35.000 That, and it's like you get your ass in trouble, man.
00:05:38.000 There's things I'm going to think just about what I know we're going to talk about today.
00:05:42.000 I'm just like, don't say it.
00:05:43.000 Even with my coaching program, I turn the recording off.
00:05:46.000 Whenever we have a guy come on there and we talk about something that's sensitive, or if someone wants to talk about, hey, he's going through a divorce battle.
00:05:51.000 Often, whenever there's a custody battle, one of my clients is going through a divorce thing, we always turn the recording off specifically for this reason.
00:05:57.000 Because people can get a hold of your content and then misconstrue it.
00:06:01.000 We're seeing it today with Andrew.
00:06:03.000 They're pulling clips from like 10 years ago from a course saying, oh yeah, look at this.
00:06:07.000 This is evidence of such and such.
00:06:09.000 And at the same time, the other thing we all have to recognize is that once you're doing a million a month, you have to take everything down that you did.
00:06:15.000 You have to make the decision.
00:06:16.000 It was PBD who actually said this when Sneeko got canceled.
00:06:19.000 He was like, at some point, I have the responsibility to all of my employees to say, am I going to go full Bore and probably get us knocked off of some of these social media platforms, or am I going to pull back, kind of set, talk around the periphery of what I want to talk about, but still keep these people employed?
00:06:35.000 And now I've got 22 people working for me.
00:06:37.000 I see different responsibilities as far as what I'm allowed to say because my partners are like, hey man, we got to stay away from this because it hurts the business and it might hurt the channel.
00:06:47.000 So that's one of the issues you always have to deal with as a content creator.
00:06:50.000 That's true.
00:06:51.000 Yeah.
00:06:52.000 And, you know, coming from mainstream media, of course, you know, he understands that there's a game that you got to play.
00:06:57.000 Has he come out and, like, given the full story of what ended up, like, with him and Fox?
00:07:01.000 No, right?
00:07:01.000 He kind of gave, like, a surface level thing, like, there was some allegation about misogyny or some bullshit like that, and they parted ways, but he never gave the full-on thing, right?
00:07:10.000 What you doing here?
00:07:12.000 Yeah, but you know what?
00:07:14.000 I think a part of his contract is he can't talk about it.
00:07:16.000 He can't say it.
00:07:17.000 So, you know, it is what it is, but we know how the mainstream media works.
00:07:20.000 And, you know, he was probably one of their only reporters that was actually digging for the truth.
00:07:25.000 I knew he was pretty based when, I'll never forget, there was a clip that came out November of last year, the anniversary of John F. Kennedy's assassination.
00:07:35.000 That'd be the 23rd of November, I believe.
00:07:37.000 22nd.
00:07:38.000 22nd, yeah.
00:07:38.000 So he ends up getting these declassified CIA documents, and he basically says it straight up, like on Fox.
00:07:46.000 Yeah, the CIA had a hand, and the death of John F. Kennedy.
00:07:50.000 Now, right, these types of circuits with alternative media, everyone knows that it was an inside job to some degree with a bunch of organized crime, whatever.
00:07:58.000 But for someone from mainstream media to go ahead and say, oh yeah, it was an inside job, I mean, that's a big step.
00:08:04.000 And I think that's why so many people like him and why he was able to maintain such relevancy at Fox, despite the fact that mainstream media has been dying the past, I would say, five to ten years.
00:08:12.000 Yeah, a thousand percent.
00:08:13.000 I'll tell you another thing that I've seen.
00:08:15.000 So I've been hanging out with Buck Sexton.
00:08:17.000 I'm a big fan of Buck Sexton.
00:08:18.000 Clay Travis have the biggest radio show in America.
00:08:20.000 They took over for Rush.
00:08:22.000 And then last night, I ate dinner with a guy named Gio Codwell.
00:08:26.000 He also does a lot of stuff on Fox.
00:08:29.000 Between those two and Tucker, all of them say that Hannity is the only one left that's not woke.
00:08:35.000 They say Hannity's a G, and everybody else is kind of not.
00:08:38.000 Just not with it.
00:08:39.000 I like this interview that he did with Trump.
00:08:42.000 And actually, we'll talk about that here in a bit with the Trump situation.
00:08:47.000 How is Andrew's psyche?
00:08:49.000 They're built for war, dude.
00:08:51.000 They are built for war.
00:08:52.000 They are doing business as usual.
00:08:54.000 Like, bro, we sit around, we make jokes with each other about what's going on because it's so blatantly obvious that they're innocent.
00:09:00.000 They know they're innocent.
00:09:01.000 So much so, it's not even a subject that I couldn't make a joke at them about.
00:09:04.000 Like, I could call them a name that has something to do with something they're accused of.
00:09:09.000 We would all laugh because it's so asinine that they're even being charged with it.
00:09:12.000 You know what I loved was the PVD interview where he talked about how Tristan would have been upset if he wasn't locked up with Andrew.
00:09:20.000 He's like, I'm here.
00:09:21.000 And he talked about, I have the best brother in the world.
00:09:23.000 Oh, a thousand percent.
00:09:24.000 I mean, obviously it's better to not get locked up, but they found so much positive in what happened to them and the connection.
00:09:32.000 I'll tell you this right now, I'm closer to my brother now because of what I saw, me becoming friends.
00:09:39.000 Andrew and I would message every once in a while, but watching the example that he and Tristan had, I actually started to try to repair the relationship between me and my brother specifically from watching this.
00:09:47.000 About a thousand percent, man.
00:09:49.000 It's very infectious what they have.
00:09:51.000 And I'll tell you another thing about that week I spent with them.
00:09:54.000 I went in the gates, I don't know, 11, 12 o'clock at night.
00:09:57.000 I did not leave the gates for an entire week.
00:10:00.000 Wow.
00:10:00.000 We never left the gates.
00:10:02.000 Wow.
00:10:03.000 Just order food in and everything, right?
00:10:04.000 Well, yeah, there's food, hookah, there's massage people, there's chefs.
00:10:08.000 We ate every meal together.
00:10:10.000 We smoked prison cigarettes together.
00:10:12.000 We sat there and made jokes with his mom.
00:10:16.000 His mom came in for a couple of days.
00:10:17.000 All of his buddies from the old fight gym were there, Marcel.
00:10:22.000 Everybody was there, man.
00:10:24.000 It was just a big family event.
00:10:25.000 The timing I came in was perfect, man, because I already know his mother.
00:10:29.000 I've taken his mother to lunch in London a few times while he's been out.
00:10:35.000 You know, it was just a family affair, man.
00:10:37.000 People get Andrew wrong.
00:10:39.000 People think that it's not a family thing.
00:10:41.000 It is a family thing.
00:10:42.000 He's actually a very, very, very family-based man, and he does believe in love, and he believes in family and friendship, man.
00:10:48.000 That's why he's got guys he's been with for 20 years out there sparring with him that don't have a penny to rub together to get there.
00:10:53.000 In fact, I'm pretty sure he paid to fly all them over just so they could spend that week with him.
00:10:58.000 Wow.
00:10:58.000 That's great.
00:10:59.000 That's the things that the cameras don't see.
00:11:00.000 They see the smart side of them, the intelligent side, maybe the side that gets a little loud every now and then, but I can tell you, There's an environment around that family that's very inspiring pro-family.
00:11:10.000 That's dope.
00:11:11.000 I enjoy it myself.
00:11:13.000 That's awesome.
00:11:13.000 I'm glad that they're holding up well and doing well.
00:11:16.000 At the end of the day, we all know it's fucking bullshit.
00:11:20.000 We saw that indictment.
00:11:23.000 It was hilarious, bro.
00:11:24.000 To see what they put in there about Andrew, it's all cat, bro.
00:11:26.000 It's crazy.
00:11:28.000 TikTok and all sorts of bullshit.
00:11:30.000 That's where we're in now, man.
00:11:31.000 It's scary for any guy that...
00:11:34.000 Has some type of affluence or money or whatever that they can literally come back and make false allegations on you.
00:11:39.000 And this is what you end up with.
00:11:40.000 And it's just wild to me because, you know, if they could do that to Andrew, who has the resource and money to fight to defend himself, imagine someone.
00:11:47.000 They could drown anybody else.
00:11:48.000 Yeah, they could drown anybody else.
00:11:49.000 You made a good point earlier.
00:11:50.000 You got to watch your step because if you don't watch your steps.
00:11:53.000 This is one of the things I specifically coach is that, guys, you need to never snitch on yourself.
00:11:57.000 You guys need to start using Facebook secret.
00:11:59.000 If you want to have a conversation, you need to use some other apparatus.
00:12:04.000 Pick whatever you want.
00:12:05.000 Cyber dust.
00:12:05.000 I don't care what it is.
00:12:06.000 But you need to not leave these trails behind because you saw that there was a voice memo that they used with Andrew.
00:12:13.000 It was completely taken out of context.
00:12:14.000 You pointed this out where it was on WhatsApp.
00:12:18.000 And then later on, it literally says, if I consent to it, then you can't grate me.
00:12:22.000 Do you remember this?
00:12:22.000 But they leave that part out, which completely puts the voice memo into context.
00:12:26.000 And I explain to guys, like, so for instance, let's say you're going back and forth with a girl on Instagram.
00:12:30.000 She can unsend all of her messages.
00:12:32.000 It looks like you messaged her 15 times.
00:12:34.000 She screenshot that and send it to her friends.
00:12:36.000 I tell you guys, if a girl sends you nudes right back, go with God.
00:12:40.000 Do not send pictures back.
00:12:43.000 If she wants a dick pic, she can come to your place and find it online.
00:12:45.000 Like, that's the thing.
00:12:47.000 You can't stick your penis through the phone, right?
00:12:50.000 Stop escalating on the phone, because they're just going to use it.
00:12:53.000 It's never going to help you.
00:12:55.000 It's always going to just hurt you.
00:12:56.000 And the opposite is, the other day, some dude was starting beef with me.
00:13:00.000 I was in a nightclub in Los Angeles.
00:13:01.000 I handed my girlfriend my phone, and I was like, I need you to record everything.
00:13:05.000 So the opposite for you.
00:13:06.000 Record everything that happens around you.
00:13:08.000 I was like, I need this guy to punch me first.
00:13:09.000 I can't hit him first.
00:13:10.000 He's got to punch me first.
00:13:12.000 So it's like one of these situations where you have to be careful of what you put out there because everyone else is recording.
00:13:17.000 This was in LA? Yeah, it was in LA. How did that even come about?
00:13:21.000 It's a nightclub, and I know the owner, and I'm not going to beat some guy's ass in his club because it's very disrespectful.
00:13:25.000 So I asked the guy to come outside, and I was like, if he comes up to my girlfriend again...
00:13:28.000 Catch me outside, nigga!
00:13:30.000 I'm outside and I had my girlfriend just come on, come on, come on, come on.
00:13:32.000 And he just saw me one second.
00:13:33.000 He saw that he didn't have any backup and he just ran off.
00:13:35.000 And I was like, man, I wish this guy would have just at least taken a swing because I'm not going to catch a case in California for some guy just me hitting some dude.
00:13:43.000 He's got to punch me first.
00:13:44.000 They probably still arrest you over there, bro.
00:13:45.000 I don't think they got to stand your For sure.
00:13:48.000 But that's the kind of thing.
00:13:50.000 We snitch on ourselves too much.
00:13:52.000 Every time we write a girl, everything we write can be taken out of context.
00:13:57.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:13:57.000 And so that's the thing.
00:13:58.000 That's why the greatest feature is the unsend feature on IGDM. Guys, learn to use the unsend feature.
00:14:05.000 It is so wonderful.
00:14:06.000 If you do that, it's like, okay, she didn't respond.
00:14:08.000 Okay, unsend that.
00:14:09.000 That's fine.
00:14:10.000 People can only use it against you.
00:14:12.000 It's never going to be used in your favor.
00:14:13.000 So...
00:14:14.000 We talk about rappers, you know, kind of like doing it to themselves, for example, to rap about a song, do a snitch on themselves, and then, oh shit, you told it about yourself.
00:14:22.000 But us, as creators as well, have that same responsibility, because if you don't watch what we say, sometimes it could mess us up.
00:14:28.000 Dude, learn how to use Vanish Mode on IG. It's so great.
00:14:30.000 It just goes right away afterwards.
00:14:32.000 That's such a great tip I tell guys to do.
00:14:35.000 Yeah, Vanish Mode, you could do that, too.
00:14:36.000 I mean, the litmus test I tell guys is, if this conversation were to get out on the internet, would it fuck you up?
00:14:43.000 Yeah.
00:14:43.000 Because, yeah, everyone learns from their mistakes, you know?
00:14:46.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:14:47.000 They think about the Jonah Hill stuff.
00:14:48.000 It's just so completely taken out of context, the stuff he was saying.
00:14:51.000 I like Jonah Hill way more now.
00:14:52.000 Yeah, me too.
00:14:53.000 For sure.
00:14:54.000 When you reach that, in context, it was like, hey, if this is what you want, I love and respect you, but it's not for me.
00:15:01.000 I was like, oh, what a fucking manipulative piece of shit.
00:15:03.000 I can't believe he said that.
00:15:04.000 It was the most ridiculous thing I'd ever heard.
00:15:06.000 Jonah Hill was 100% not in the wrong for any of that shit, other than maybe picking a ratchet girl.
00:15:11.000 He didn't do anything wrong, but they used it against him.
00:15:14.000 And so that's the thing we as men have to understand is that they're...
00:15:16.000 You guys notice as you make more money, girls never ask you to wear a condom.
00:15:19.000 Am I the only one who notices?
00:15:21.000 Is it just me?
00:15:21.000 I'm sorry.
00:15:22.000 Is it just me?
00:15:22.000 Obviously, I have a girlfriend now, but like before.
00:15:24.000 Has anybody else noticed that?
00:15:25.000 You'll notice that.
00:15:26.000 Hey, man.
00:15:29.000 I'm just saying they don't ask you to.
00:15:30.000 I'm not saying you don't do it.
00:15:31.000 I'm just saying they don't ask.
00:15:32.000 But there's a thing you start to notice after a while.
00:15:34.000 And it's like, it's not that everyone's out to get you.
00:15:37.000 It's that if this thing exists and it can only, anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law, there's nothing you can say that's going to help you.
00:15:45.000 So just don't put it out there publicly.
00:15:46.000 It is sad, man.
00:15:48.000 At a certain level, when you reach a certain level of status or wealth, you have to do risk management.
00:15:52.000 It's sad, but you have to, no matter who you are.
00:15:54.000 Look at Trump, bro.
00:15:55.000 That's wild.
00:15:56.000 Yeah.
00:15:57.000 Yeah.
00:15:59.000 So, shit, what was I going to say?
00:16:01.000 What about you, bro?
00:16:01.000 What's new with you?
00:16:03.000 We've quadrupled the size of the company.
00:16:05.000 It's been incredible, the growth.
00:16:06.000 We have a free school server and a paid school server.
00:16:09.000 I am doing an affiliate thing with Tai Lopez, just on stage with him the other day.
00:16:14.000 Oh, he's back on the internet?
00:16:15.000 Yeah, he is.
00:16:15.000 So, he's starting up.
00:16:16.000 He's cranking everything back up now.
00:16:18.000 And then, what's his face?
00:16:20.000 Bradley and I have been doing some stuff.
00:16:21.000 I'd love to get you with Bradley.
00:16:23.000 Bradley would be a great interview for you guys.
00:16:24.000 I just went to a seminar with Wes Watson, and then that's when I talked to you.
00:16:28.000 So my cohort is Dan Fleischman, who is the most...
00:16:33.000 Every influencer in Los Angeles knows Dan Fleischman, but he's not famous.
00:16:37.000 But whenever he has parties, everyone shows up.
00:16:39.000 It's Dan Bilzerian-level parties.
00:16:41.000 Fleischman, this is my buddy Hardcore Closer.
00:16:45.000 Wes Watson, my buddy Cole Gordon, and Ty Lopez, it's just this cohort of very, very successful men, and we all help each other out.
00:16:52.000 I've learned, I've, you know, reverse engineers, a lot of stuff they've done with their funnels and their sales, and it's just been nothing but beneficial for us.
00:16:58.000 I can't believe, this is my first try at being a CEO of a company, and the fact that it's been this outrageously successful has just been terrific.
00:17:04.000 And then the guests that I'm able to get on my podcast, I'm nowhere near the size you guys are, but the people who reach out to me, like you said, you asked me before about Jay Cutler.
00:17:11.000 Jay came up to me at a party and said, I watch your podcast.
00:17:14.000 And I was like, dude, you gotta be kidding me.
00:17:15.000 Stuff like that has started to happen.
00:17:17.000 Five times Mr.
00:17:17.000 Olympia?
00:17:18.000 Five times Mr.
00:17:19.000 Olympia?
00:17:19.000 It's just incredible stuff, man.
00:17:21.000 And so that's been awesome.
00:17:22.000 And the same thing with Bilzerian, Tai Lopez, and obviously with Rolo.
00:17:25.000 Rolo reached out to me to do a show before I ever met him.
00:17:28.000 I only met Rolo because of Andrew Tate.
00:17:30.000 So those things have been absolutely incredible.
00:17:33.000 I teach a networking course while networking, and I feel like it's a blessing every day that I get to do this thing that I love, and it gets to grow exponentially because of it.
00:17:41.000 So we've done some pretty outrageous numbers.
00:17:44.000 My partners don't want me to say how much money we're making, but we're doing really, really well.
00:17:49.000 And so I'm probably going to do something in this forum for the rest of my life.
00:17:52.000 It's a blessing, man.
00:17:53.000 It is a blessing, man.
00:17:54.000 And basically helping guys with, you know, understanding social circle.
00:17:57.000 You sold a 20K paid in full.
00:18:00.000 Oh, really?
00:18:00.000 Yes, because you guys put an affiliate code on one of the things.
00:18:02.000 You had a 20K paid.
00:18:03.000 It was just the other day, dude.
00:18:04.000 Even the Fresh and Fit stuff, you guys have helped us grow.
00:18:07.000 It's just been absolutely great.
00:18:09.000 The stuff that we're doing, because it works so well and I use so many testimonials, that's the reason why it's just been able to grow so fast.
00:18:15.000 Basically, I teach a leadership course with networking and how do you show up to a club with 70, 80, 90 girls?
00:18:20.000 How do you show up to a party with 70, 80, 90 girls?
00:18:21.000 And he's seen it.
00:18:22.000 One of the things I wanted is when Justin came to Vegas, I wanted to literally show him what it is that we were doing.
00:18:28.000 I wanted him to see it firsthand.
00:18:29.000 So that was one of the things that was awesome.
00:18:31.000 Horrible time.
00:18:33.000 Horrible time.
00:18:34.000 No, it's a great way to make the move.
00:18:36.000 You know, we talk about social circle game all the time and how it's like, you know, for a lot of times it's how people meet their girl.
00:18:41.000 But if you're able to do it at a more elite level where you're actually able, you know, obviously we normally don't advocate you be friends with girls, but there are situations where you can have females in friendly positions that elevate your status and ability to go ahead and attract other women.
00:18:54.000 So it's really strong social proof.
00:18:56.000 You know how to do it right.
00:18:57.000 The problem is that can most guys pull it off?
00:18:58.000 No, they can't.
00:19:00.000 That was the thing, like when Rollo and I first met, that was the big point of contention is, can men and women be friends?
00:19:04.000 And the answer is, if you are sleeping with seven girls, and you make a bunch of money, and you have other girls in your DMs, and you have like an assistant or some girl that you're not attracted to, you can definitely be friends with women.
00:19:13.000 But most guys don't live in that reality.
00:19:16.000 But I will tell you, the reality of having women introducing you to women is unbelievable.
00:19:20.000 And the reason I found that out was because I consistently had girls on my show, and I'd be like, the last five guys you slept with, how'd you meet them?
00:19:25.000 And it was always a female friend, a female friend, a female friend, a female friend, and then Instagram.
00:19:29.000 I was like, oh, dude, I need to reverse engineer this.
00:19:32.000 And so that's why I have a bunch of women in my life who are constantly introducing me to women.
00:19:36.000 There's no way.
00:19:37.000 I had 200 girls show up to my bikini competition last year.
00:19:39.000 There's no way for me to do that without women helping me recruit other women.
00:19:42.000 Does that make sense?
00:19:43.000 And you guys have IC and all these girls here that help you with this kind of thing.
00:19:47.000 You call them the hoe wranglers.
00:19:48.000 It's that kind of deal where there's certain...
00:19:52.000 Huh?
00:19:53.000 Who called him that?
00:19:54.000 Icy told me, she said the name of the position is a home wrangler.
00:19:57.000 Is that not correct?
00:19:58.000 You're correct.
00:19:59.000 That was not me, bro.
00:20:00.000 Okay, sorry.
00:20:01.000 I've never heard that term, but it's funny as hell.
00:20:02.000 I'm going to start using it now.
00:20:05.000 The point is having women, so women do three things for you.
00:20:08.000 They calibrate you, especially if you're not used to being around other women.
00:20:10.000 They get you invited to everything.
00:20:12.000 You're not getting into Bilzerian's parties.
00:20:15.000 You're not getting into the max of parties unless you're bringing 30, 40, 50 girls.
00:20:18.000 Actually, my first drink party that I got invited to was from a girl.
00:20:21.000 Was it?
00:20:22.000 Yeah, there you go.
00:20:22.000 Without her, I would not have been there.
00:20:23.000 And then so also, a lot of my sponsors, a lot of my clients, and a lot of the people that we, whenever we throw these parties, I always am introduced to them by women.
00:20:32.000 And so that's the reason why I say they're part of the connection.
00:20:36.000 Also, I know this is a weird analogy, but foreign intelligence services, who do they use in order to get people to snitch?
00:20:41.000 Women.
00:20:41.000 They use women.
00:20:42.000 Do you remember?
00:20:42.000 Honey.
00:20:42.000 You remember General Petraeus when he became the head of the CIA? Do you guys remember why he had to step down as the head of the CIA? Why?
00:20:48.000 Because he was compromised because he was cheating on his wife with a fucking reporter.
00:20:51.000 And that's what...
00:20:52.000 Chinese check, right?
00:20:53.000 I don't remember which one it was.
00:20:55.000 But the point is, like, that's the reason why.
00:20:56.000 I know so much about so many people because I have all these women in my life who just are telling me, dude, when dudes talk shit about me, I know in like five seconds because they're always running their mouth to try to brag to women.
00:21:07.000 And so that's the reason why I say having this in your life is pretty beneficial.
00:21:11.000 Do you know why?
00:21:12.000 Guys, people talk with girls.
00:21:13.000 The thing is cool.
00:21:14.000 It's all culture.
00:21:15.000 What happens is that girl says, oh, now I got you, nigga.
00:21:19.000 And then she talks to you.
00:21:20.000 Oh, you heard what someone said about you?
00:21:22.000 And then before you know it, it spread out the whole town.
00:21:24.000 You know a good song for young men to listen to is Mona Lisa by Lil Wayne.
00:21:29.000 There we go.
00:21:30.000 Okay.
00:21:30.000 It talks about how she tricks this man all the way until they rob his ass and he never saw it come and he was heartbroken over it.
00:21:38.000 Real good song.
00:21:39.000 Lil Wayne, Mona Lisa.
00:21:41.000 These bitches will talk, bro.
00:21:42.000 They'll set you up if you want, bro.
00:21:44.000 If you're allies with a beautiful woman, man, she's got power.
00:21:47.000 Another thing about the beautiful woman thing that I really like is it's like having an alliance with a gay guy because you get immediate credibility.
00:21:55.000 The only difference is eventually that girl, if she's friends with you, because that wall and that relationship's there, she will probably sleep with you just down the road.
00:22:02.000 Yeah, so that's the other thing I was going to point out.
00:22:04.000 It's like eventually most of them end up with a crush on you.
00:22:07.000 If you just don't hit on them and you're around 20, 30 girls every night, what happens is they're curious because they're looking for validation from all these different places and they're not getting it from you and they can't figure out why.
00:22:19.000 Yeah, and they see your girlfriend's a 10, and they see that other girls are attracted to you.
00:22:23.000 You're like, why am I not getting this attraction?
00:22:24.000 And then one day, it's their birthday party, and then they pull you back to there.
00:22:27.000 Like, it's just the story after story that's happening.
00:22:30.000 And guys, this is not crazy, but this is actual real life.
00:22:32.000 If you're out there with girls, you're in the party scene, this does happen all the time.
00:22:36.000 I mean, I've always said it.
00:22:37.000 It's basically passive income on hoes.
00:22:39.000 If you have a bunch of money already, you can invest it and you'll get a dividend, right?
00:22:43.000 Same thing with women.
00:22:44.000 If you have a bunch of women, what ends up happening is having all those women will give you a dividend to other chicks.
00:22:50.000 It's the same exact situation.
00:22:51.000 Passive bitches.
00:22:52.000 You met...
00:22:54.000 You met Masha Didik when we did the Fresh and Fit episode we did in Las Vegas.
00:23:00.000 She was the Ukrainian girl sitting to my left.
00:23:02.000 So she used to approve the girls that went to Bolzerian's parties.
00:23:06.000 There's another girl who lives here in Miami named Bianca Gezi.
00:23:08.000 These are girls that Dan wasn't sleeping with helping Dan Bolzerian meet other girls.
00:23:12.000 And that's kind of where I got this...
00:23:14.000 This idea from also, I met a bunch of club promoters and it was the same situation.
00:23:17.000 It was like the terrific book on this.
00:23:19.000 I would not, I don't agree with the interpretation, but I love the description.
00:23:22.000 It's called Very Beautiful People.
00:23:23.000 It's by a sociology professor named Ashley Mears from Boston University.
00:23:27.000 And she goes undercover as a bottle rat for like two years.
00:23:30.000 And she describes the models and bottles things.
00:23:32.000 And she talks about how these club promoters use women to meet women.
00:23:34.000 It is so specific, the thing that they do.
00:23:37.000 And then these guys are like, they literally get to the point that they need to specifically go fuck the hottest girl to get the other girls to follow them to the club.
00:23:44.000 But they're not even fucking her because they like her.
00:23:46.000 They're fucking her because they got to get, they're like to lead all the girls back to the club.
00:23:50.000 It's a fantastic book.
00:23:51.000 I'd highly recommend it.
00:23:52.000 But yeah, that's the other thing I learned.
00:23:53.000 And then the other thing is like kind of backwards rationalizing like what some of the best, Dave Grutman, Jason Strauss, Noah Tepperberg, those guys who were like icons in the nightlife industry.
00:24:02.000 What did they do?
00:24:03.000 They got clubs full of women.
00:24:04.000 That's what they understood is that the ratio has to be a certain way in order to make the nightlife good.
00:24:09.000 So there's three Harvard case studies on Jason Strauss right now.
00:24:13.000 The guy who runs Tal Hakkasan Group.
00:24:15.000 And so, like, just going back and reverse engineering some of that stuff is what I teach in the program.
00:24:19.000 It's been very helpful.
00:24:20.000 The groupman story is incredible, too.
00:24:22.000 I came from a security guard to working as a bartender to owning a major club, owning multiple clubs in Miami.
00:24:22.000 Incredible, yes.
00:24:28.000 Incredible.
00:24:29.000 It's a tricky situation because you...
00:24:31.000 The men make the money, but you can't have too much of them.
00:24:33.000 But the girls, like, lose you money almost.
00:24:35.000 So it's like you got to have the perfect balance of, like, just enough girls so the guys stay, but at the same time not having too many guys because then the girls leave.
00:24:41.000 But yeah, it's a very tricky situation.
00:24:43.000 The answer in Miami, Las Vegas, and Los Angeles are comps.
00:24:45.000 I don't have to pay for anything.
00:24:47.000 Because if I have 12 girls, I don't have to pay for anything.
00:24:49.000 The club already hits me up.
00:24:50.000 They're like, I'll do my...
00:24:51.000 Me and Rolo will do an Access Vegas show, and we'll go to Zook, and they'll put us on stage right behind Deadmau5, and we don't pay for anything.
00:24:57.000 They won't let us pay for anything.
00:24:59.000 So that's a way to do it.
00:25:00.000 Also, shout out to...
00:25:01.000 Isn't it crazy how, like, as a guy, you have to have, like, an enormous amount of status and hookups to get things that regular girls just get for free?
00:25:08.000 Even me...
00:25:08.000 Isn't that wild?
00:25:09.000 When I pull up, I'm with two or three girls all the time.
00:25:11.000 Not because I have to, but because it helps.
00:25:13.000 Because once again, you come up with girls, oh, he's bringing value.
00:25:15.000 And you see how the door guys look at you.
00:25:17.000 If you guys try to walk into Mr.
00:25:19.000 Jones as a normal dude and watch how they just look down at you like you're fucking stupid for even trying to get into this place, right?
00:25:24.000 But if you walk up with a bunch of girls, it's a very different inviting environment.
00:25:28.000 So that's an exactly...
00:25:29.000 Even dress code.
00:25:30.000 Yes.
00:25:31.000 They'll let it fly if you bring girls.
00:25:32.000 Let me shout out one other thing.
00:25:34.000 Jason Strauss and Dave Gruttman are working together with the Fountain Blue that's opening in Las Vegas and they're going to open their version of Live in Las Vegas and they're teaming up to do that.
00:25:44.000 So that's a really, really awesome thing.
00:25:46.000 I cannot wait for that.
00:25:46.000 That's going to be, I believe, the beginning of the first quarter next year or maybe later on this year, I think.
00:25:51.000 Nice.
00:25:51.000 Wow.
00:25:52.000 But yeah, no, I mean, social proof.
00:25:54.000 I mean, when it comes to dealing with the most attractive women, absolutely is one of the main things that you need, you know.
00:25:59.000 And again, it's a game that can work if you know what you're doing, but you have to obviously be talented.
00:26:03.000 I mean, hey, if you guys want to learn, we got the link below.
00:26:05.000 Go ahead and jump in in the MOA mentoring and Mike will teach you how to do all this.
00:26:08.000 But it's a very nuanced game.
00:26:10.000 You got to know what you're doing.
00:26:11.000 And yeah, you got to operate from a place of abundance.
00:26:13.000 I think that's very important for guys to understand is that like...
00:26:17.000 For that strategy to work, number one, you kind of already have to have women around you, and then you've got to operate with an abundance mindset.
00:26:23.000 If you're a guy that's like a scarcity mindset, it's not going to work because you're going to try to bang all the girls that you're friends with.
00:26:27.000 It's going to fuck you up.
00:26:28.000 It's going to lower your value.
00:26:30.000 Agreed.
00:26:31.000 And then you seem weird.
00:26:31.000 Yeah, and then you seem like a weirdo.
00:26:33.000 All right, cool.
00:26:34.000 Anything I wanted to talk about before we switch over to the topic at hand?
00:26:39.000 First topic.
00:26:40.000 Hey, I want to say something.
00:26:41.000 We knew you guys weren't on YouTube and we didn't give a fuck.
00:26:44.000 We were not going to not support you just because you weren't on YouTube.
00:26:47.000 As soon as I heard that, I was like, I don't care at all.
00:26:49.000 Even though we're just on Rumble, I didn't want you guys to think for one second we wouldn't come on just because of this.
00:26:54.000 I know he feels the same way I do.
00:26:56.000 We want to support you guys no matter what.
00:26:59.000 It kind of sucks being in YouTube, Joe, but it's kind of nice too because we're able to just say what we want to say and not to worry about stuff.
00:27:04.000 Nah, I miss YouTube, bro.
00:27:05.000 I miss him.
00:27:07.000 It's marketing, bro.
00:27:08.000 Holy.
00:27:09.000 Yeah, no, man.
00:27:10.000 I enjoy being able to say what we want to say without having to think twice or whatever.
00:27:13.000 But yeah, shout out to Rumble.
00:27:15.000 So first topic at hand, guys.
00:27:19.000 As y'all know, former President Donald Trump was indicted yesterday for the January 6th involvement, the riots.
00:27:28.000 And this actually comes on the heels of him being indicted again on a superseding indictment.
00:27:32.000 So first, let's go ahead and talk about the first case.
00:27:36.000 You guys have anything y'all want to say before I go ahead and summarize it?
00:27:38.000 Or...
00:27:39.000 So the first case, we're talking about specifically the indictments, or are we talking about the classified documents?
00:27:44.000 Okay, I'll give a quick little summary.
00:27:46.000 So first he got indicted in the state of New York, which was like unprecedented that a foreign president be indicted.
00:27:51.000 They charged him for falsifying business records.
00:27:53.000 That's what the whole Stormy Daniels porn star situation.
00:27:55.000 This was the Southern District of New York, that African-American prosecutor.
00:27:59.000 Is that the guy you're talking about?
00:28:00.000 Yeah.
00:28:01.000 Yes, but it's a state case, not federal.
00:28:04.000 But it was the state of New York that did it.
00:28:06.000 But yes, what's his name?
00:28:08.000 Alvin Briggs, maybe?
00:28:10.000 I know he campaigned under, we're going to get Trump.
00:28:12.000 So they went ahead and got him for a falsifying business record.
00:28:14.000 Long story short, he had a payoff to a porn star named Stormy Daniels.
00:28:19.000 I interviewed her afterwards.
00:28:20.000 Oh, really?
00:28:21.000 Yeah, I've met her because the AVN awards are always in Vegas, so she's always there.
00:28:25.000 Okay.
00:28:25.000 Really?
00:28:25.000 So yeah, basically they hooked up in like 2006, 2007.
00:28:28.000 Hush money.
00:28:28.000 And then he paid her some hush money.
00:28:31.000 It was like somewhere between $70,000 to $150,000 or something like that.
00:28:34.000 His lawyer paid for it, but they used certain funds that they shouldn't have used, and they were able to kind of basically get them for using election money or campaign money.
00:28:42.000 So the attorney said, let me handle this.
00:28:45.000 And they ended up using election money to pay her off, which is a federal offense, I believe.
00:28:49.000 It's like our campaign finance.
00:28:50.000 It can be a federal offense, but that's how they were able to get them on the falsifying records because the falsifying records charge is normally a misdemeanor.
00:28:56.000 Okay.
00:28:57.000 But they're able to get you on a felony if it's in the furtherance of another felony.
00:29:01.000 So I think that's how they were able to justify getting them with a felony version of falsifying business records because...
00:29:05.000 We're good to go.
00:29:29.000 And then they went ahead and indicted him for, you know, the classified documents.
00:29:33.000 And then recently, I think like a week ago, they hit him with a superseding indictment, which basically means like an updated charge where they added more charges to the situation.
00:29:42.000 We can pull it up real quick here, Mo.
00:29:45.000 Let's pull up this thing on the classified stuff to kind of give you guys a summary.
00:29:48.000 And the part that I react to it.
00:29:49.000 Oh, go ahead.
00:29:50.000 We'll run the clip and then we'll.
00:29:52.000 And so, yeah, new charge in Trump's Mar-a-Lago classified docs case.
00:29:52.000 Sure.
00:29:52.000 So go ahead.
00:29:56.000 Go ahead, run the clip.
00:29:58.000 A major development tonight in one of the special counsel's investigations into former President Donald Trump.
00:30:04.000 Trump is now facing new charges in the classified documents case.
00:30:08.000 Now, he has already been accused of mishandling classified material and blocking the government's efforts to get them back.
00:30:14.000 But late this afternoon, the special counsel released a superseding indictment adding three new charges and naming another co-defendant in the case.
00:30:23.000 Guys, a superseding indictment is just a fancy way of saying a new charge, excuse me, a new set of charges from the same case.
00:30:30.000 Like an addendum to the contract.
00:30:32.000 Essentially, yeah, exactly.
00:30:35.000 Go ahead.
00:30:35.000 NBC's Laura Jarrett has all the details.
00:30:52.000 So that's the main reason right there why they did a superseding indictment.
00:30:55.000 They wanted to get this third guy, Alfredo, in jail.
00:30:57.000 That's basically the main concept behind this.
00:31:00.000 And then he would snitch on the president?
00:31:02.000 Is that what they think?
00:31:03.000 I think that might be a part of their strategy, to get him in to cooperate.
00:31:06.000 And we'll talk about how he was involved here in a second.
00:31:08.000 Go ahead, Mo, keep running.
00:31:11.000 ...conspiracy.
00:31:11.000 The new obstruction counts are significant and based on allegations that the defendants attempted to delete surveillance footage at Mar-a-Lago in the summer of 2022.
00:31:21.000 That third defendant, Carlos de Oliveira, was a maintenance supervisor at Mar-a-Lago.
00:31:27.000 Also, Trump already faced 31 counts of illegally retaining national defense information.
00:31:33.000 This new indictment as a 32nd to the list.
00:31:36.000 It is related to a recording of the former president at Bedminster where he's discussing classified documents involving Iran.
00:31:47.000 Well, with Millie, let me see that.
00:31:50.000 I've got to show you an example.
00:31:51.000 Pause.
00:31:53.000 Alright, guys, this recording is actually very damning.
00:31:56.000 This actually is what has me very concerned with this case.
00:31:59.000 But I'll play it and then we can talk about it after.
00:32:01.000 But pay attention.
00:32:04.000 I wanted to attack Iran.
00:32:07.000 Isn't it amazing?
00:32:08.000 I have a big pile of papers.
00:32:10.000 This thing just came up.
00:32:10.000 Look.
00:32:13.000 These are all classified documents.
00:32:14.000 They presented me this.
00:32:15.000 This is off the record, but they presented me this.
00:32:19.000 This was him.
00:32:20.000 This was the Defense Department and him.
00:32:23.000 We looked at him.
00:32:24.000 This was him.
00:32:25.000 This wasn't done by me.
00:32:26.000 This was him.
00:32:27.000 All sorts of stuff.
00:32:29.000 Pages long.
00:32:31.000 Wait a minute.
00:32:32.000 Let's see.
00:32:37.000 I just found, isn't that amazing?
00:32:39.000 This totally wins my case, you know?
00:32:42.000 Except it is, like, highly...
00:32:44.000 Oh no!
00:32:45.000 Oh no!
00:32:45.000 Oh no!
00:32:48.000 And he said, he wanted to attack Iran, and what?
00:32:52.000 He's in the face!
00:32:54.000 This was done by the military, given to me.
00:33:08.000 Guys, that right there, bro, is literally what has me very concerned.
00:33:15.000 So two things are going on here.
00:33:17.000 He's admitting that he didn't declassify the documents, right?
00:33:21.000 He's showing some national defense information.
00:33:22.000 So even if it was classified, it wouldn't matter because it's military shit.
00:33:25.000 It automatically falls under NDI, national defense information.
00:33:28.000 And then the other one is that he's saying in here, yeah, it's secretive, that it's not information that people should have.
00:33:34.000 Mind you, this woman that he's talking to is like a reporter.
00:33:36.000 She doesn't have a clearance.
00:33:37.000 She doesn't have a need to know.
00:33:38.000 This is all government jargon for what's required when you share any type of document that might be sensitive in nature.
00:33:46.000 So this is bad that they have this recording and they're absolutely going to introduce this as evidence in the investigation.
00:33:51.000 Let me provide some context.
00:33:53.000 So all former presidents, so right now Obama, Bush, and And Trump, they can, they receive an intelligence briefing every day.
00:34:03.000 Even if they're private residents, George Bush lives in Dallas, Texas.
00:34:06.000 He still receives an intelligence briefing.
00:34:08.000 He has like a junior intelligence officer that gives it to him every day.
00:34:11.000 There are sometimes documents that are there.
00:34:12.000 Now, I don't know that's why he got these.
00:34:14.000 But the thing is, it seems pretty clear that he's sort of like using this to find out information that other people said about himself.
00:34:21.000 But he's not using like...
00:34:22.000 I think the president of the United States, the former president, if he had gone into a skiff or gone somewhere else and, like, looked at these documents in a secret location, it would be fine.
00:34:29.000 But you're right.
00:34:29.000 This is incredibly damning.
00:34:31.000 So when I heard you and Ryan Dawson say that this looks bad, I was like, this looks really bad.
00:34:36.000 If those two guys are saying it's bad, it must be pretty bad.
00:34:38.000 And, like, for me, right...
00:34:43.000 Sure.
00:34:48.000 Sure.
00:34:49.000 Sure.
00:35:02.000 They don't have to prove much when it comes to this charge.
00:35:04.000 That's what has me concerned because it's like all they have to prove is that it's national defense information which, I mean, clearly it is.
00:35:10.000 Anything that's military is going to be considered.
00:35:12.000 He didn't mention though that the war, when they went to attack Iran, he's talking about who?
00:35:17.000 I mean, he's saying that someone else was trying to say he wanted to attack Iran.
00:35:22.000 And he's saying whoever person X is, no, that person was saying he wanted to attack Iran.
00:35:27.000 And here's the proof.
00:35:28.000 That's what he was talking about.
00:35:29.000 It was a plan to attack country A, which I think they refer to in the indictment.
00:35:32.000 But I think the country in question is Iran.
00:35:34.000 And this is something that his military heads had drafted up and shown to him.
00:35:38.000 Because he was against the war, Trump.
00:35:40.000 And then that's what he's saying.
00:35:41.000 Like, I was right all along, blah, blah, blah.
00:35:43.000 That's what he's referring to.
00:35:45.000 So he went to like, I guess, he didn't want to go to work with him.
00:35:47.000 Right.
00:35:48.000 When you were working for the Feds, did you guys have skiffs where you had to...
00:35:51.000 Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:35:52.000 So just for people who don't know, it's like usually four inches of concrete.
00:35:55.000 There's a room you have to go into.
00:35:56.000 You have to leave your cell phone outside.
00:35:58.000 Someone has to buzz you in.
00:35:59.000 When you go in there, there's no...
00:36:00.000 You can't have any electronic advices.
00:36:02.000 And did you have computers on the sippernet?
00:36:04.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:36:05.000 Computers, phones, you can go in there and basically look.
00:36:07.000 Basically, think of it as a room where you can look at classified information.
00:36:09.000 Yeah, so the reason why, you know, the Cipronet computers don't have USB ports anymore.
00:36:15.000 And that stopped, I want to say, back in 06, 07 because of the Bradley Manning thing.
00:36:20.000 Because of him stealing all those documents from a SuperNet computer, putting it on thumb drives or whatever.
00:36:25.000 And that's how he got all those documents, specifically because of that.
00:36:27.000 But the point is, the president could have actually looked at these documents.
00:36:31.000 He's still the president of the United States.
00:36:32.000 He still has very high clearance.
00:36:33.000 He's a former president.
00:36:34.000 And for those of you who don't know, former presidents are often used for, like, prisoner exchange.
00:36:39.000 Former presidents are used as diplomats for other countries to do negotiations.
00:36:43.000 Former presidents still have a job.
00:36:45.000 Being the former president of the United States is still an occupation.
00:36:47.000 And the current president, if He so chooses can ask one of the former presidents to go do something on his behalf.
00:36:53.000 And that's why they consistently get intelligence briefings, intelligence briefings, and often current presidents will call former presidents for advice.
00:37:00.000 That happens very frequently.
00:37:02.000 So that's the reason why, just to put a little context on why this is happening.
00:37:05.000 The other thing is, it's not that the president couldn't have looked at this stuff.
00:37:08.000 He could have if he had gone to, say, maybe Andrews Air Force Base or something like that and looked in a skiff, he probably would have been able to have access to it.
00:37:14.000 In his private residence, that's a problem.
00:37:16.000 To a reporter, that is a problem.
00:37:18.000 But wait!
00:37:19.000 What about Hillary?
00:37:24.000 Ask it a good question.
00:37:25.000 Ask it a good question.
00:37:26.000 Dude, you're 100% right.
00:37:29.000 And isn't that the bigger problem here?
00:37:31.000 Do we have a two-way system when it comes to law?
00:37:35.000 Is it based off of who you are now?
00:37:38.000 Or is it based off the fucking law?
00:37:40.000 Because if it's based off the law, then shouldn't Hillary be in jail?
00:37:44.000 We can agree that Trump is not part of the...
00:37:48.000 He's not on the right team.
00:37:50.000 Because of him not being on our team, he's a target.
00:37:52.000 Let's get him out of here.
00:37:54.000 So, yeah.
00:37:57.000 We'll keep running the clip here.
00:37:59.000 Basically, the reason why this is damning, guys, is because he's acknowledging that it's classified to a degree, and then he's also acknowledging that he could have classified it, but he did not, which is a power that the President of the United States does have where he can basically declassify documents.
00:38:11.000 Let's go ahead and run it.
00:38:14.000 Is that interesting?
00:38:15.000 It's so cool.
00:38:18.000 Tonight, Donald Trump reacted to the new charges saying, quote, it's election interference at the highest level.
00:38:23.000 They're harassing my company.
00:38:25.000 They're harassing my family.
00:38:26.000 They're harassing me.
00:38:28.000 The latest charges come on the very same day the grand jury investigating Trump's possible involvement in 2020 election interference met in D.C. So far, there have been no indictments in that case.
00:38:41.000 And just so you guys know, this came out like a week ago.
00:38:44.000 And we're going to talk about January 6th here in a second.
00:38:48.000 Why does MSNBC keep using these ugly photos of him where he looks so unhappy?
00:38:52.000 Use some happy photos.
00:38:53.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:38:54.000 Or some neutral photos.
00:38:55.000 This is pretty obvious what you're showing here.
00:38:57.000 Isn't it crazy?
00:38:58.000 He is not being escorted into court right here.
00:39:01.000 That's not what this is.
00:39:02.000 But they're taking this photo out of context.
00:39:06.000 But isn't it wild, right?
00:39:07.000 Every king, man of importance, man of status, on some level, his downfall is because of women.
00:39:15.000 Interesting.
00:39:15.000 Isn't that wild?
00:39:17.000 I see what you mean.
00:39:18.000 Yeah, a lot of them.
00:39:18.000 I'm not sure all of them, but yeah, a lot of them.
00:39:20.000 Definitely Clinton, but the irony is Clinton's highest approval rating.
00:39:24.000 You guys know what it was?
00:39:26.000 It's after the world found out he got a blowjob from Monica Lewinsky.
00:39:30.000 Look it up.
00:39:31.000 That was his highest approval rating during his presidency.
00:39:34.000 But Dustin made a good point, though.
00:39:35.000 Once again, it could happen to him, but not Hillary because of who she is and who she stands for.
00:39:41.000 It is wild, man.
00:39:43.000 Go ahead, Moe.
00:39:46.000 That was happening.
00:39:47.000 Two of Donald Trump's lawyers were meeting with special counsel Jack Smith's office.
00:39:53.000 All right.
00:39:53.000 So that basically covers the classified stuff.
00:39:56.000 So they added more stuff because he basically had someone try to delete the footage at Mar-a-Lago.
00:40:03.000 Let me ask you guys this real quick.
00:40:05.000 Yeah.
00:40:06.000 Is he getting convicted?
00:40:07.000 Is he going to jail?
00:40:08.000 I can answer that after the second one.
00:40:10.000 Okay, cool.
00:40:11.000 Unless you want to take it now.
00:40:14.000 Let's hit January 6th now and then we can kind of talk about it and then move on to the UFO situation.
00:40:18.000 Yeah, let's hit the next video.
00:40:18.000 The next video?
00:40:20.000 So the next video, guys, is going to cover January 6th.
00:40:22.000 As you guys know, January 6th with the Capitol riots where they entered in the Capitol building and everything else like that.
00:40:29.000 I'll just let the video explain for itself.
00:40:32.000 And this was yesterday, guys.
00:40:36.000 ...interrupt you again, which is very rude, and I'm going to owe you a drink.
00:40:39.000 We want to get to David Spun.
00:40:39.000 He actually has the indictment.
00:40:41.000 I'm going to owe you a drink.
00:40:42.000 He can read it to us, tell us what are the charges of David Spun.
00:40:44.000 These people who are watching are all friends, man.
00:40:46.000 They're all buddies.
00:40:47.000 We got the printer going.
00:40:48.000 Dude.
00:40:49.000 You know what we just said there?
00:40:51.000 Everyone in this media outlet, Blitz, they're all friends.
00:40:56.000 Of course.
00:40:56.000 And they'll work together.
00:40:57.000 Yeah, but when you think about it on Twitch, they're all friends.
00:40:59.000 On YouTube, we're all friends.
00:41:00.000 Sort of.
00:41:00.000 I mean, obviously, some of us aren't friends.
00:41:02.000 But the agenda behind us kind of...
00:41:03.000 Agreed.
00:41:04.000 Yeah.
00:41:04.000 What does that lead to?
00:41:05.000 That leads to some dangerous conclusions.
00:41:07.000 If we want to put you in this box of being this bad person, we will.
00:41:09.000 And you can do anything about it.
00:41:10.000 Gotta cooperate, yeah.
00:41:11.000 Sorry, but it's kind of wild.
00:41:14.000 Going behind me.
00:41:15.000 45 pages.
00:41:16.000 Here it is right here.
00:41:17.000 Donald Trump has been indicted.
00:41:19.000 There are four different counts.
00:41:20.000 I want to read them to you before I read through this.
00:41:23.000 Count one is conspiracy to defraud the United States.
00:41:26.000 Count two, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding.
00:41:30.000 Count three, obstruction of an attempt to obstruct an official proceeding.
00:41:34.000 And then count four is called conspiracy against Trump.
00:41:38.000 Right.
00:41:39.000 So I'm going to go through this.
00:41:40.000 And they're doing this, guys, because he basically was saying the election was rigged.
00:41:42.000 He was trying to get people to recount votes in certain states.
00:41:45.000 So that's why they're hitting them with these charges.
00:41:46.000 And on top of that, Georgia, Fawn County, the same DA, by the way, that's charging Young Thug in that RICO case, is probably going to bring charges against them as well for very similar things with the election.
00:41:56.000 Wow.
00:41:57.000 Do you guys see how these prosecutors don't want to be the first?
00:42:01.000 And so now that they're not the first, you start seeing Fulton County...
00:42:05.000 It's almost a political me too.
00:42:07.000 Yeah.
00:42:07.000 Yeah.
00:42:08.000 Actually, good point.
00:42:09.000 Yeah.
00:42:10.000 There's no way a Fulton County prosecutor is going to be the first one to charge the president of the United States.
00:42:15.000 But he will allow the Southern District of New York or the DA from New York or whoever to go first.
00:42:21.000 And then these people...
00:42:23.000 And that DA campaigned heavy under, we're going to go after Trump.
00:42:28.000 So he kind of had to do it.
00:42:29.000 Because this is shit from 2016-2017 that they're getting him for with the whole Stormy Daniels situation.
00:42:35.000 This is an all-out time to bring him down.
00:42:37.000 Once or for all.
00:42:39.000 Go ahead, sorry.
00:42:39.000 Wait, did you have anything else?
00:42:40.000 No, no, no.
00:42:41.000 Let's keep playing.
00:42:42.000 We just sent it out, so everybody should have a copy in our email, but right now it appears four different counts.
00:42:49.000 This was the indictment that was not read in court, now is unsealed, and we're waiting to see if we get any type of reaction from special counsel Jack Smith will be watching for.
00:42:58.000 Do you not understand, but earlier you said that there were, the indictments didn't have some initials or some people were named.
00:43:05.000 What happened to that?
00:43:06.000 Is now everybody named?
00:43:08.000 Not everybody was named.
00:43:09.000 Apparently, we're told from our producer in the courtroom, there were two cases where initials were read.
00:43:15.000 We're deciphering who those initials may be.
00:43:17.000 We're waiting to see if we find those.
00:43:19.000 But this specific case right here, there was no DT read or DJT or Donald Trump announced in the courtroom.
00:43:26.000 And this just says United States of America v.
00:43:29.000 Donald J. Trump defendant.
00:43:31.000 So it does not have other defendants listed in this indictment.
00:43:34.000 We were wondering if perhaps it might be Donald Trump.
00:43:37.000 Pull it up real fast, Mo.
00:43:38.000 The indictment that they have there that I showed the document for.
00:43:42.000 It's the next tab.
00:43:45.000 And I'll show you out real quick this indictment.
00:43:47.000 You guys can see it here.
00:43:52.000 Yeah, okay.
00:43:53.000 So you can see right here.
00:43:54.000 So 18 U.S.C. 371 conspiracy.
00:43:58.000 That's a typical conspiracy charge.
00:44:00.000 And they got 1512 conspiracy to obstruct an official obstruction of an attempt to obstruct an official proceeding and a conspiracy against rights.
00:44:08.000 And you can see here it says, verse Donald A. Trump.
00:44:10.000 But throughout the indictment, right, if you scroll down...
00:44:12.000 They list multiple co-conspirators, which when you do the math, you can figure out one of them is like Rudy Giuliani, etc.
00:44:19.000 So I don't know if they're going to go ahead and charge the rest of them, but you could go through it.
00:44:24.000 It's 45 pages.
00:44:25.000 We're not going to read the entire thing, guys, but they go over all the facts in the case, right?
00:44:30.000 And you can obviously go through it.
00:44:32.000 I've noticed with these Trump indictments, they've been very...
00:44:35.000 I mean, they're definitely crossing their T's and dotting their I's and making sure that they show everything for you guys from a chronological standpoint so it all makes sense.
00:44:42.000 Like, their classified documents indictment was pretty well written, and they know that they're going after a president, so I guarantee you this is probably seen at every single level of the Department of Justice.
00:44:51.000 A million people probably had to proofread it and make sure that it was clear, but...
00:44:56.000 Yeah, I think.
00:45:19.000 Yeah.
00:45:19.000 And this is up on, you guys can easily Google this and find it and read through it if you want.
00:45:23.000 I'll probably go in more detail on this on FedReacts, but just want to show you guys the document itself.
00:45:29.000 Now, these charges aren't like that bad compared to the classified documents charges.
00:45:33.000 Like those are what I'm worried about because he could do 15 to 20 years for those.
00:45:36.000 This stuff is all more like, you know, BS obstruction charges, lying.
00:45:39.000 The charges like obstruction of justice, false statements, etc.
00:45:42.000 They typically don't have higher sentencing guidelines like, you know, anything that has to do with espionage.
00:45:47.000 We can go back to the clip, Mo, and then we'll get the people's thoughts.
00:45:53.000 And XYZ, as we saw with the retention of documents case where his aide and body man, Walt Nauta, was also indicted.
00:46:01.000 This right here is just United States of America versus Donald Trump.
00:46:04.000 It's four counts.
00:46:05.000 Again, count one, conspiracy to defraud the United States.
00:46:08.000 Count two, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding.
00:46:11.000 Count three is obstruction of an attempt to obstruct an official proceeding.
00:46:15.000 Count four is conspiracy against rights.
00:46:17.000 It is 45 pages.
00:46:19.000 And on the back, it has Jack Smith's signature right here.
00:46:23.000 And it just says right here, it says, Donald J. Trump, this is on the final page, did knowingly combine, conspire, confederate, and agree with co-conspirators known and unknown to the grand jury to injure, oppress, threaten, and intimidate one or more persons in the free...
00:46:37.000 I guarantee a couple of those co-conspirators are probably cooperating with the investigation, which is why they're not charged in the indictment, and they're just naming them as co-conspirators.
00:46:45.000 Damn.
00:46:46.000 Guaranteed.
00:46:47.000 Let's keep going.
00:46:48.000 The exercise and enjoyment of a right and privilege secured to them by the Constitution and laws of the United States.
00:46:55.000 That is the right to vote and to have one's vote counted in violation of Title 18.
00:47:00.000 So for these counts, this has to do with January 6th?
00:47:05.000 Yeah.
00:47:05.000 I'm confused how that keeps people from their right to vote.
00:47:10.000 That extrapolation I wasn't able to pull.
00:47:12.000 What they're basically saying is that he incited riots and he pushed the Department of Justice to act on his behalf because he thought the election was rigged.
00:47:20.000 Okay.
00:47:21.000 Oh, so by him pushing...
00:47:22.000 Got it.
00:47:22.000 So the felony is for him, misappropriation of power to get the Justice Department.
00:47:26.000 Pull up that indictment one more time.
00:47:28.000 That's slightly separate from the 7th January 6th.
00:47:30.000 I hate to ask another dumb question, but what happens when the left riots?
00:47:35.000 Nothing.
00:47:36.000 Yeah.
00:47:37.000 They get tax breaks and they defund the police.
00:47:39.000 What are you talking about?
00:47:40.000 Yeah, they call it Black Lives Matter.
00:47:42.000 They get a 501c3 tax break.
00:47:44.000 They're not taxed.
00:47:45.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:47:47.000 Charity organization.
00:47:48.000 That's a very catch-all charge, right?
00:47:51.000 Basically because they're trying to say that he...
00:47:54.000 I think?
00:48:13.000 Once you affect interstate commerce, or they're able to establish that you cross state lines with your crime, which is very easy to do with the internet nowadays, they're able to go ahead and establish...
00:48:22.000 My point is, isn't the Justice Department then culpable?
00:48:25.000 The President of the United States is the head of the executive branch.
00:48:29.000 He can appoint...
00:48:30.000 People to different executive appointees, the director of the FBI, the director of the CIA, the director of the Justice Department.
00:48:38.000 But they don't have to do what he says.
00:48:40.000 Now, he could fire them, but I don't understand how he makes them do this.
00:48:45.000 Or rather, you understand what I'm saying?
00:48:47.000 It's me telling you to break up with your girl.
00:48:49.000 It's still your fault if you break up with your girl.
00:48:51.000 At some point, that's why I'm a little confused by this.
00:48:54.000 It's like...
00:48:55.000 I'll read that first paragraph real quick.
00:48:58.000 It might give a little bit of a summary here.
00:49:01.000 Enlarge on our end.
00:49:03.000 Okay.
00:49:04.000 Donald Trump, the defendant, was the 45th president of the United States and a candidate for re-election in 2020.
00:49:11.000 The defendant lost the 2020 presidential election.
00:49:13.000 Despite having lost, the defendant was determined to remain in power.
00:49:16.000 So for more than two months following election day on November 3rd, 2020, the defendant spread lies that there had been outcome determinative I think?
00:49:46.000 They addressed that here in paragraph three.
00:49:48.000 It says the defendant had a right, like every American, to speak publicly about the election and even claim falsely that there had been outcome determinative fraud during the election and he had won.
00:49:58.000 He was also entitled to formally challenge the results of the election through lawful and inappropriate means, such as seeking recounts or audits of the popular vote in states or filing lawsuits challenging ballots and procedures.
00:50:09.000 Enlarge it, Mo, real quick for me.
00:50:10.000 Indeed, in many cases, the defendant did pursue these methods of contesting the election results.
00:50:15.000 His efforts to change the outcome in any state, though recounts, audits, or legal challenges, were uniformly unsuccessful.
00:50:22.000 Paragraph 4.
00:50:23.000 Shortly after election day, the defendant also pursued unlawful means of discounting legitimate votes and subverting the election results.
00:50:30.000 In doing so, the defendant perpetrated three criminal conspiracies.
00:50:33.000 So that's what they're saying, is that he pursued unlawful means of discounting legitimate votes.
00:50:38.000 And then they go into the three things that he did.
00:50:40.000 Okay, that makes more sense.
00:50:40.000 Because what I thought they were saying is that he's strong-arming the Justice Department to do something.
00:50:44.000 But, like, he has the right to say those things.
00:50:47.000 It's not against the law for him to do that.
00:50:48.000 I see where it's going now.
00:50:50.000 Yeah.
00:50:51.000 And it goes into A, B, and C. A conspiracy to defraud the United States by using dishonesty, fraud, and deceit to impair, obstruct, and defeat the lawful federal government's function by which the results of the presidential election were collected, counted, and certified by the federal government in violation 18 U.S.C. 371.
00:51:05.000 A conspiracy to corruptly obstruct and impede the January 6th congressional proceeding at which the collected results of the presidential election are counted and certified.
00:51:13.000 And then a conspiracy against the right to vote and to have one's vote counted in violation 18 U.S.C. 241.
00:51:19.000 So they're just throwing the book at this fucking guy, man.
00:51:20.000 So I have a question.
00:51:21.000 At what level Does free speech go from you can say what you want to now that you're a conspiracy?
00:51:30.000 Because it's starting to feel like free speech only is okay if you don't have a platform to share what you have to say.
00:51:37.000 At what level is that?
00:51:39.000 Plain devil's advocate.
00:51:41.000 From their standpoint, it's the point at which you do things to the detriment of other people.
00:51:47.000 So right to vote is a civil right.
00:51:48.000 And so I think that's a pretty big stretch that Number C, or letter C there, conspiracy against the right to vote and to have one's vote counted in violation.
00:51:59.000 So I guess he's saying because the ballots that were sent in should not be counted, that somehow that's a conspiracy against the right to vote.
00:52:06.000 I guess that's what it is.
00:52:08.000 I'm just playing devil's advocate here.
00:52:09.000 I agree with you.
00:52:10.000 I mean, he should be allowed to say whatever he wants.
00:52:12.000 Also, he's about to be a private citizen.
00:52:13.000 You know, he wasn't re-elected, so that's the issue.
00:52:17.000 But it is one of these things.
00:52:18.000 It's like, I can express myself with my fists until I get to your face, and then I can't express myself anymore, right?
00:52:23.000 It's one of these things that he can express himself, and the federal government's going to say, well, when you start damaging other people, then that's the point we're going to say.
00:52:29.000 Or when other people can actually hear what you're saying.
00:52:32.000 Because a normal person can go down the street saying all of these things.
00:52:35.000 But when Trump has people listening to him or Tate or whomever, then it's a conspiracy.
00:52:40.000 So is free speech free?
00:52:42.000 So I would argue that there's no more free speech.
00:52:45.000 Because it's so vague and so open that I can say, you know what?
00:52:49.000 You said that the sky is blue, but it's really green.
00:52:53.000 And I feel like you're hurting my idea of what the sky should be.
00:52:57.000 And as a result, you're hurting me.
00:52:58.000 Which is kind of like, woo, wah, wah.
00:53:00.000 But ultimately, is there free speech?
00:53:02.000 I talked to, I was at a nightclub in Vegas, and I talked to an executive at Instagram, and I asked him about Andrew Tate, and he 100% said it wasn't because of what he said, it was because of how popular he was.
00:53:02.000 I don't think so anymore, man.
00:53:12.000 We had to take him down.
00:53:13.000 His influence.
00:53:14.000 100%, yeah, that's what he said.
00:53:15.000 So, yeah, that definitely is.
00:53:17.000 It's the influence.
00:53:17.000 Especially when he said, like, don't be violent, you know?
00:53:20.000 And it's funny because they're not charging him with, like, inciting violence or anything.
00:53:23.000 They're charging him with, like, saying that he's undermining, you know, the democracy of the United States with the voting situation.
00:53:30.000 But he even said it, like, hey, guys, don't go out there and, you know, peaceful protests, etc.
00:53:34.000 But what I think is, is that...
00:53:36.000 Obviously, the riots occurred because he obviously gave his speech, got some people fired up, whatever.
00:53:40.000 Even though he didn't tell them to go ahead and do what they did, they want to hold someone responsible.
00:53:44.000 So that's what it is.
00:53:45.000 But do you see how you're speaking about how you see things can be twisted and put a narrative on you where, oh, he meant this, but really he didn't mean that at all.
00:53:53.000 But that's scary because anybody can be a target.
00:53:55.000 Yeah, there's certainly...
00:53:56.000 I mean, obviously, we're on Rumble for a reason right now, because there are certain things...
00:54:00.000 It's like, the problem isn't having the wrong opinion.
00:54:02.000 The problem is, like, having the discussion now get you cancelled.
00:54:06.000 That's where there's an issue.
00:54:07.000 And to his credit, it was actually Destiny who said this when he was doing Graham Stephan's podcast.
00:54:12.000 He was like, every time I would debate someone, Twitch would cancel them.
00:54:16.000 He would...
00:54:16.000 Kick him off the platform.
00:54:17.000 And he was telling somebody at Twitch, he's like, you have to stop doing this.
00:54:20.000 You have to stop getting rid of people because they disagree with me and I'm progressive.
00:54:23.000 And so that's the problem.
00:54:25.000 One of the other things is it does seem, I don't care how leftist you are watching this, you cannot disagree with this.
00:54:31.000 People on the right are more willing to have these discussions And then people on the left are, which are simply to say, you're stupid, therefore I won't discuss things with you.
00:54:40.000 True.
00:54:41.000 Don't take the moral high ground.
00:54:41.000 It's not even...
00:54:42.000 Yes, correct.
00:54:43.000 Even the people on the left have to agree with this.
00:54:44.000 And the people on the right, let's just say you are someone who's extremely progressive, you also have to admit that no matter how kooky you think they are, the people on the right are just more entertaining.
00:54:53.000 In addition to the fact that they will take on all comers anytime they want.
00:54:59.000 And so I think that's where the separation happens.
00:55:02.000 I was watching the Young Turks the other day and they were saying something like, yes, and all these Republicans talk about they're doing this in support of the First Amendment.
00:55:11.000 And I'm like, yes, because the First Amendment is important.
00:55:13.000 No, it doesn't matter.
00:55:14.000 I want people who I disagree with to speak as loud as they can, because then I know to not vote for them.
00:55:22.000 So First Amendment goes both ways.
00:55:24.000 It's not just the spreading of good, fun, happy unicorn ideas.
00:55:28.000 It's also the spreading of bad ideas.
00:55:30.000 So you're like, I don't want to vote for you.
00:55:32.000 And both parts are important, but only one part is being expressed.
00:55:36.000 Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's cooler to be a leftist.
00:55:40.000 I mean, if you look at universities, if you look at the young people, a lot of them are more, you know, liberally sound.
00:55:45.000 They want to paint their fingernails.
00:55:47.000 They want to have free college, all this other bullshit.
00:55:49.000 And, you know, I've always said that as you make more money or you go up the social ranks, you start to realize, damn, I don't want to pay a lot of taxes.
00:55:56.000 Then typically you're going to align yourself with conservative values to some degree.
00:56:00.000 But Yeah, the cool thing, the trendy thing is to absolutely be a liberal.
00:56:04.000 And then, yeah, they don't want to have discussion a lot of times.
00:56:05.000 That's why so many people like Destiny, if y'all want to know, because he's one of the few, I wouldn't even consider him like a far leftist, but he's one of the few people that's progressive that will go ahead and have a conversation with someone that has completely opposing views.
00:56:16.000 I think that's why he's not a far leftist.
00:56:18.000 It's because he's having conversations where he's, like, you understand, most hardcore leftists just think people on the right are just bad.
00:56:25.000 Dumb and or negligent and or just evil.
00:56:28.000 They can't see that this person had a mother or father, grew up, had some trauma in their life, had a family, fell in love, had money, lost their money.
00:56:37.000 They don't see people on the right as having struggles.
00:56:40.000 They just see it as like, you are just stupid because you don't agree with what I agree with and that's the end of the discussion.
00:56:45.000 Whereas with Destiny, because he's so willing to have these debates with people who he disagrees with, I've seen him on several occasions go to, hey, I don't I don't understand why you believe this, but I want to know where you came to this conclusion.
00:56:58.000 And he really does try to understand.
00:56:58.000 Right.
00:57:00.000 Exactly.
00:57:00.000 Son of intelligence.
00:57:00.000 He's not a dumb guy.
00:57:01.000 And I have tried to adopt that in my debates where I had a Flat Earth debate with Flat Earth Dave, and I was trying to understand what happened to you.
00:57:10.000 Even when I had the Flat Earth debate with Zerka, I was trying to understand where Zerka was getting these ideas from.
00:57:17.000 Right or wrong.
00:57:17.000 I just want to know what motivated you to legitimately believe the earth is flat.
00:57:21.000 You understand what I'm saying?
00:57:22.000 And instead of just like yelling at him.
00:57:24.000 Talking to me.
00:57:24.000 Exactly.
00:57:25.000 And I got that.
00:57:26.000 I think that's a really important thing that the left doesn't do any of.
00:57:30.000 Yeah.
00:57:31.000 It's apparent to me.
00:57:32.000 If you don't follow their agenda, what happens is you get called stupid.
00:57:35.000 You might be violent.
00:57:36.000 They consider evil.
00:57:37.000 And on that level, like I said before, they don't want to talk to you at all.
00:57:40.000 However, In the social media world itself, if you go against the narrative, you get cancelled.
00:57:45.000 Yeah.
00:57:45.000 Literally.
00:57:46.000 Long enough, enough influence, you get cancelled.
00:57:48.000 Yeah.
00:57:49.000 So, as far as, like, what I think with the...
00:57:52.000 Do you guys want to give your predictions first of what you think as far as, like, if he's going to beat these charges or anything?
00:57:56.000 I could go last if y'all want.
00:57:57.000 I'm dying to know.
00:57:58.000 Your thoughts on this?
00:58:00.000 I think they're going to do everything they can to put him in jail, so he can't...
00:58:03.000 That's what I think.
00:58:04.000 Yeah.
00:58:04.000 I think there's going to be a point where he knows they've got him, and so he's going to have some kind of negotiation.
00:58:12.000 I don't think it's good for the country in any form whatsoever to have a former president in jail.
00:58:17.000 I don't care how far to the left you are.
00:58:19.000 Having Hillary Clinton or...
00:58:20.000 I know people are going to disagree with me on this.
00:58:22.000 Having Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump in jail, it...
00:58:29.000 Sure.
00:58:31.000 Sure.
00:58:34.000 Sure.
00:58:44.000 The people turn on him, and then they get him out, get him in jail, and put the guy they need in there, and then they use that country as a power.
00:58:50.000 Color revolution.
00:58:51.000 We do that all the time.
00:58:52.000 All the time.
00:58:54.000 America does that shit everywhere, especially in Central America, with that Banana Republic situation being one of them.
00:58:59.000 We can ask a question why.
00:59:00.000 Or who's controlling?
00:59:03.000 I love the fact that we're able to have this discussion, and I really wish more people...
00:59:16.000 I love talking to people who disagree with me.
00:59:19.000 Man, it's so motivating to do that.
00:59:20.000 I don't want...
00:59:22.000 Let's talk about something that is a little controversial.
00:59:25.000 It's not going to get a span on Rumble, but the idea of the heritability studies when it comes to race.
00:59:29.000 There was a Nobel Prize winner who just simply stated that there may be differences in IQ based on race and he was lost.
00:59:35.000 I don't think he lost his Nobel Prize, but he lost several honors because of that.
00:59:38.000 The problem is, if I wanted to refute that, I can't because no one will do studies on this anymore because it's such a toxic thing to study in university about the differences in IQ based on race.
00:59:51.000 But as someone who studies evolutionary psychology, I desperately want to know What is the difference in the amygdala?
00:59:57.000 What is the difference in the size of the frontal lobe?
00:59:59.000 I want to know these answers, but yet actually doing this study is so toxic we can't do it.
01:00:04.000 And so now what happens is the people on the left who want to refute the studies on the right, they can't even refute them because no one will do these studies.
01:00:11.000 Does that make sense?
01:00:12.000 Because the topic is so toxic.
01:00:13.000 I got something to add to that because we brought on this fucking lawyer that was just arguing the whole time, right?
01:00:18.000 As far as like, because, you know, obviously we know that When a chick has more sexual partners, typically that's going to fuck up the relationship.
01:00:24.000 We see studies on that.
01:00:25.000 It's going to affect your ability to pair bond with her or whatever.
01:00:28.000 And she's saying, oh no, there's no study that shows that a woman having more sexual partners will limit her ability to be a good wife or daughter.
01:00:35.000 Sorry, a good wife or girlfriend or whatever.
01:00:37.000 And in my head, I was like, yeah, there's studies that We're good to go.
01:00:58.000 On that, right?
01:00:59.000 That's like saying like, oh, yeah, I need a study that shows one plus one is two.
01:01:03.000 It's like, no, it's generally accepted and known fact based off of how things go.
01:01:07.000 But you're not going to find a study for that specific thing because no one would conduct that study.
01:01:11.000 So canceled.
01:01:12.000 So there is an Institute for Family Studies that does show that as you get above a certain number of sexual partners, men sort of level off in their happiness in a marriage is after 10 years and women go down.
01:01:21.000 And what happens is that study was in 1995.
01:01:24.000 And I was like, and I was talking to Rolo.
01:01:26.000 I was like, why are there not new studies on this?
01:01:28.000 And it's like, because they're afraid of what they're going to find.
01:01:30.000 They're going to afraid if they found, just imagine if there was a study that showed that the neurochemicals of dopamine and oxytocin started to lessen the more sexual partners.
01:01:40.000 Think if they could neurologically show that women had a lower ability to pair bond once you get plus 20 partners, 50 partners, et cetera.
01:01:47.000 If you could literally show that in the science of A peer-reviewed paper to show that.
01:01:51.000 Can you imagine how damning that would be to certain people's narrative?
01:01:54.000 They can never do that study.
01:01:55.000 Destroy the whole rap industry for women.
01:01:58.000 Destroy the culture.
01:02:00.000 And yet any guy who's been with a little number of women, you know this is true.
01:02:05.000 And so when you see that, it's like you're going to do a study that is true.
01:02:08.000 Even women know it's true.
01:02:09.000 Because that same chick that was making arguments for women should be able to be promiscuous kept repeating, I've only had seven partners.
01:02:15.000 I've only had seven partners.
01:02:16.000 Why do you keep repeating that then?
01:02:17.000 Because it's low to her.
01:02:19.000 Yeah, but my main point is that you don't even believe in that bullshit, which is why you work to keep your number low.
01:02:24.000 It's always funny to me how women will sit there and make an argument for women being able to be promiscuous, but then themselves will say, oh, but I'm not promiscuous.
01:02:31.000 But I think women should be able to have it.
01:02:32.000 And that's what I kind of realized is that females typically don't want to do a lot of the shenanigans that they claim that they want to do.
01:02:37.000 They just want to have the ability to do it without being checked.
01:02:40.000 That's what it is.
01:02:41.000 And it's always funny.
01:02:42.000 We have girls on the show.
01:02:43.000 They're like, oh, I can't remember.
01:02:43.000 What's your body count?
01:02:45.000 But you really know what number is.
01:02:45.000 Or I don't know.
01:02:47.000 Or you have an idea.
01:02:48.000 You don't want to say it on camera.
01:02:49.000 Bro, if you don't know, that's even worse.
01:02:50.000 I forgot.
01:02:51.000 I don't know.
01:02:53.000 I don't know.
01:02:53.000 I forgot.
01:02:54.000 I forgot after the drink concert.
01:02:55.000 I don't know.
01:02:56.000 You know what you do?
01:02:58.000 Well, remind me this.
01:02:59.000 Let's do a...
01:03:00.000 I've done this before.
01:03:01.000 It's a really interesting thing you can do.
01:03:03.000 Where you ask every girl how promiscuous they think their friends are on a scale of 1 to 10.
01:03:08.000 Oh, yeah.
01:03:08.000 Oh, we've done that.
01:03:09.000 Yeah.
01:03:09.000 And then you ask them how promiscuous they think they are, and it's always five or six points lower.
01:03:13.000 Gotta be.
01:03:14.000 It's so great.
01:03:15.000 It's like, how are all of you less promiscuous than your friends?
01:03:18.000 I get around that by saying, what do you think the average sex partner is, sex partner count for a woman that's 25 years old that's out of college?
01:03:24.000 That's when you get Frehley on a sandwich.
01:03:27.000 I did it at the live show.
01:03:29.000 And some girls said 7, some girls said 10, other girls said 50, other girls said 80.
01:03:33.000 So, long story short, we basically summarized it, excuse me, the average was about 20 to 30 guys for an average 25-year-old woman.
01:03:41.000 That's fucking high!
01:03:42.000 But then if I were to ask those girls, how many bodies do you have, they'll all say two.
01:03:47.000 Or they can't remember.
01:03:48.000 Or they'll say, I won't answer it.
01:03:51.000 So, I mean, it's just a clown world.
01:03:53.000 But as far as Trump.
01:03:55.000 You legitimately don't remember.
01:03:58.000 I'm just kidding.
01:03:59.000 Well, at this point, I just stopped counting.
01:04:01.000 You stopped counting?
01:04:02.000 But the thing is, I didn't really count it.
01:04:03.000 I just averaged off of what I kind of had on my phone.
01:04:06.000 Yeah, so 50 a year for 10 years, and then that's how it works.
01:04:10.000 Oh, you're a man of God.
01:04:11.000 My bad.
01:04:12.000 My first time I had a bunch of numbers.
01:04:14.000 And then when I look at my content list, I'm like, hold on.
01:04:17.000 The majority of this is girls.
01:04:18.000 I did the math.
01:04:20.000 They're not from Barbados, so it's like tourist girls.
01:04:22.000 So I was like, holy shit, there's a lot of girls.
01:04:24.000 Then I did the math.
01:04:24.000 That's how you came to 1,000?
01:04:26.000 From before?
01:04:27.000 You got some number, bro?
01:04:28.000 Something like that.
01:04:29.000 They already say it in the chat.
01:04:30.000 They already know.
01:04:31.000 But it's pretty high.
01:04:32.000 It's allegedly.
01:04:33.000 Which you forgot.
01:04:34.000 Yeah, I forgot.
01:04:34.000 At this point, yeah.
01:04:36.000 Yeah.
01:04:38.000 But this is what I think with the Trump situation, right?
01:04:40.000 So obviously he's facing...
01:04:41.000 The most serious charges, I would say, are definitely the classified documents one because...
01:04:44.000 It doesn't matter.
01:04:45.000 It's considered national defense information, whether it's classified as a secret or not secret or whatever.
01:04:48.000 If it's a national defense information, it doesn't matter.
01:04:50.000 You can get hit with espionage charges, right?
01:04:53.000 Which is the 18 U.S.C. 793 stuff, guys.
01:04:56.000 And just to give you guys context, Robert Hansen, right?
01:04:59.000 The former FBI agent that died in prison actually like a month ago for selling secrets to Russians.
01:05:03.000 That's the statute that they got him under.
01:05:05.000 So he could definitely do some serious time.
01:05:07.000 They said that he's looking at like 15 or whatever.
01:05:09.000 If he goes to trial, who knows?
01:05:10.000 It might be even longer.
01:05:11.000 So how old is Trump?
01:05:12.000 He's in his 60s.
01:05:14.000 Donald Trump's 80 years old.
01:05:16.000 He's 80 years old?
01:05:17.000 Yeah.
01:05:17.000 He's going to die in jail, bro.
01:05:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:05:20.000 So those are the charges I'm more concerned with because they don't really have to prove much.
01:05:25.000 And they pretty much got him dead to rights with those recordings.
01:05:26.000 Another thing that has me worried is that when I read through the classified documents indictment, They said that they have lawyer notes, which that should be a huge red flag because whenever you have a conversation with your lawyer, that's considered privileged.
01:05:38.000 The law enforcement can't get that.
01:05:40.000 So for example, let's say you arrest somebody and their lawyer shows up and they said, okay, we need the room.
01:05:44.000 You can't sit there.
01:05:45.000 You have to leave and let them have their private conversation.
01:05:47.000 The guy can literally admit, yeah, I killed those 10 people.
01:05:49.000 Can't use it because it's considered privileged information from what he used from him talking with his lawyer.
01:05:54.000 So the fact that in the indictment, they had lawyer notes in there.
01:05:57.000 It's cooperating.
01:05:58.000 It shows that the lawyers are cooperating with the government and they're going to go ahead and testify.
01:06:02.000 And then they probably have a bunch of witnesses in this situation.
01:06:06.000 Let me say this real quick.
01:06:07.000 When he goes for reelection, he'll be 80.
01:06:09.000 I was wrong.
01:06:09.000 He's 77 years old.
01:06:10.000 I said that incorrectly.
01:06:12.000 Yeah.
01:06:13.000 All right.
01:06:13.000 So.
01:06:15.000 So, yeah, man, I don't know.
01:06:16.000 What do you think?
01:06:17.000 What do you think is going to happen?
01:06:19.000 So, this is a smear campaign, along with him doing some stuff that was not really legal, so I get that part.
01:06:25.000 But it's all an attack on Trump, and I think, on some level, he kind of didn't go with the agenda, and now he wants to come back to this as a free, and I want to say more like...
01:06:36.000 Not all the way with politicians.
01:06:38.000 Sure.
01:06:38.000 They're like, you know what?
01:06:39.000 No, I just got out of here right now.
01:06:40.000 So I want to cut them off of everything.
01:06:41.000 And then, once again, whatever you say can be used against you in the court of public opinion.
01:06:46.000 And now, everything he did in the past and what he's doing right now is going to be held against him.
01:06:51.000 And ultimately speaking, bro, maybe it isn't the wrong, which is with the documents, I get that part, but...
01:06:56.000 All the other charges, man, that's kind of a lot.
01:06:58.000 So, I mean, hopefully he gets some leniency on this conviction if he does get convicted, but ultimately speaking, he may go to jail and then end up being in jail.
01:07:07.000 They're going to give him the choice.
01:07:08.000 They're going to say, listen, you're either going to go to jail or you're going to step the fuck out the way.
01:07:11.000 Yeah.
01:07:11.000 I did the math.
01:07:12.000 He's looking at around 15 because of what they do.
01:07:14.000 They have sentencing guidelines in the federal system and you get certain points based on the crime and everything else like that.
01:07:19.000 More than likely, if he fights this, he's looking at somewhere between 15 to 20.
01:07:23.000 You always do more time if you don't plead guilty.
01:07:25.000 But what about good behavior?
01:07:26.000 Good behavior, no?
01:07:26.000 You know what?
01:07:28.000 In the federal system.
01:07:29.000 So you have to do at least 80% of your time in the federal system and he would only get good behavior once he's in prison.
01:07:35.000 And you know what?
01:07:36.000 If you look back at kind of like the history of this whole situation, he had an opportunity to bury some people and he didn't.
01:07:42.000 Yeah.
01:07:42.000 And my concern is that they're going to have more of a killer instinct than he had and they could bury him.
01:07:48.000 It was Jeffrey Epstein shit.
01:07:49.000 You're right.
01:07:50.000 He didn't go after Hillary once he took office or anything.
01:07:52.000 He had the opportunity.
01:07:52.000 He campaigned saying like, lock her up, but he never actually went after her.
01:07:54.000 He had the opportunity to put a sword in his chest.
01:07:56.000 They could do it to him.
01:07:57.000 Yeah.
01:07:58.000 I agree with what you were saying, and he also probably broke the law.
01:08:02.000 So that's the tip of the iceberg.
01:08:03.000 Once you get, you know what I'm saying, that's the first volley, and then everybody piles on afterwards.
01:08:07.000 Well, I don't want you guys to agree with me, but on some level, you can kind of say that a lot of presidents do things that are not really interesting.
01:08:14.000 If your argument is that other presidents should have been charged with other shit, yes.
01:08:18.000 Aaron Burr was the Vice President of the United States when he shot Alexander Hamilton in the hip and killed him, right?
01:08:24.000 There was a federal arrest warrant for him, and he went back to the Senate and actually presided over the Senate with a federal arrest warrant for murder, and they didn't arrest him.
01:08:31.000 Yes, of course.
01:08:32.000 You can go all the way back to the 1700s and see that there's examples of politicians not being arrested for murder or arrested for committed crimes.
01:08:40.000 What?
01:08:41.000 What's that?
01:08:41.000 Yeah.
01:08:42.000 What do you mean?
01:08:45.000 Europa?
01:08:47.000 What do you do?
01:08:48.000 You forgot?
01:08:49.000 What?
01:08:49.000 Alright, never mind.
01:08:50.000 I don't even know that one.
01:08:51.000 That's for a different talk.
01:08:53.000 The war?
01:08:54.000 Roosevelt?
01:08:58.000 Europa!
01:09:00.000 Oh, you mean like the killing of the Germans?
01:09:03.000 Yeah.
01:09:04.000 That's not considered...
01:09:04.000 They were an enemy back then.
01:09:07.000 I think that was Eisenhower.
01:09:08.000 I don't think that was Roosevelt.
01:09:10.000 I think it was Eisenhower was the one.
01:09:11.000 He allowed it to happen though.
01:09:19.000 If your argument is they pick and choose who they charge, I agree with that.
01:09:23.000 I don't believe General Westmoreland went to prison for lying about body counts during, body counts meaning deaths, during Vietnam.
01:09:31.000 I don't believe he did.
01:09:32.000 So you're absolutely right.
01:09:33.000 Was it Roosevelt or was it Eisenhower?
01:09:36.000 What year was it?
01:09:38.000 I'll give you all of them.
01:09:38.000 Who was in the military during World War II? World War II was Roosevelt, and then when he died afterwards, it was Truman.
01:09:46.000 Eisenhower was a general in the US Army.
01:09:48.000 But remember, he went with the whole agenda knowing that they were innocent people.
01:09:54.000 Okay, okay.
01:09:55.000 I just want to say the full thing on.
01:09:57.000 I mean, we're on Rumble, bro.
01:09:59.000 You confuse an audience, man.
01:10:00.000 They don't know what you're talking about.
01:10:02.000 Watch it, man.
01:10:03.000 It's 12 hours.
01:10:04.000 I haven't seen that part in a while, so I'm confused.
01:10:09.000 Going back to the whole Trump situation.
01:10:12.000 This is what I think.
01:10:14.000 The best way for him to get around this is he's just going to have to delay, delay, delay.
01:10:19.000 He should not push for a speedy trial.
01:10:21.000 He should definitely file a bunch of Emotions, yeah.
01:10:24.000 Emotions as much as he can to delay the trial.
01:10:26.000 Discovery.
01:10:27.000 Yes.
01:10:27.000 Dump discovery, like thousands of trucks of discovery onto the government.
01:10:32.000 Yeah, well, they're going to have to give him the discovery.
01:10:34.000 Yeah.
01:10:34.000 And they probably are doing that right now.
01:10:36.000 I guarantee you, before they even indicted this, they had the discovery ready to go.
01:10:40.000 And just for the audience, real quick, you guys probably wonder, what the fuck is discovery?
01:10:43.000 Guys, discovery is a process in which the two parties involved in some type of litigation share the information with each other that they have on the other party.
01:10:51.000 So, in this example, if the government charges you with a crime...
01:10:54.000 It's their duty to supply you with all the documentation and evidence against you that they plan to use in trial so that your defense attorney can properly and adequately represent you and defend you.
01:11:05.000 They can't surprise you.
01:11:07.000 And that's the thing.
01:11:07.000 A lot of people watch Perry Mason where he brings a fucking donkey into this courtroom.
01:11:11.000 That's not real.
01:11:12.000 That doesn't happen in real life.
01:11:13.000 There's no surprise witnesses.
01:11:14.000 That's just for television.
01:11:15.000 You have to tell people ahead of time what you're doing.
01:11:18.000 Now, a trick that people do often, if someone who's very wealthy sues you, one of the things they're going to do is they're going to dump discovery on you.
01:11:23.000 Yeah.
01:11:23.000 And the pertinent documents are in this file here, but they've given you 500 files to go through.
01:11:30.000 And so now you have to pay hourly for these associates at this law firm to dig through these files to find the pertinent information, and they drag you out financially.
01:11:38.000 That's how people can use discovery to bankrupt you.
01:11:41.000 Yeah.
01:11:42.000 It's a weapon.
01:11:42.000 It's a weapon to drown people.
01:11:44.000 Yeah.
01:11:44.000 Damn.
01:11:44.000 A thousand percent.
01:11:45.000 And the discovery process exists in both criminal cases and civil cases.
01:11:48.000 But in the criminal case, it's on the government to give you everything as far as the case.
01:11:53.000 Now, me knowing the level of this case, et cetera, and me working federal cases before...
01:11:58.000 Typically, the AUSA or the federal prosecutor in this case, this is the United States Attorney, they're not going to indict until they have discovery packages ready to go.
01:12:06.000 The feds are very good about this.
01:12:07.000 We'll cross the T's and the bottom of the I's.
01:12:08.000 And that was just for my regular cases.
01:12:10.000 We didn't even go to grand jury until I had everything ready for discovery to give to the defense.
01:12:14.000 So in a case like this, they probably already had the discovery ready to go.
01:12:17.000 They have packages, probably fucking binders and binders and binders full of information, recorded testimony, blah, blah, blah.
01:12:22.000 And they used a grand jury in this situation.
01:12:24.000 So more than likely, they probably already gave Trump's defense everything that they have.
01:12:28.000 They're going through it now.
01:12:29.000 So what he's going to have to do is challenge everything, say, we need more time to go through all this discovery, blah, blah, blah.
01:12:33.000 And I think in his case, what the election is going to be next year, File as many motions as you can.
01:12:39.000 Ask for extensions on reviewing their discovery because it's probably going to be a lot.
01:12:43.000 You know, ask for depositions, all this bullshit.
01:12:45.000 Extend as much as you can.
01:12:46.000 Then make it to the election.
01:12:47.000 Win the election.
01:12:48.000 And then go ahead.
01:12:50.000 And I think you could...
01:12:51.000 Well, presidential pardon.
01:12:52.000 So...
01:12:52.000 I don't know if you can pardon yourself.
01:12:54.000 That's a tall order, though.
01:12:56.000 So you can pardon yourself.
01:12:58.000 You can.
01:12:58.000 Theoretically.
01:12:59.000 So the most recent thing we have would be Gerald Ford.
01:13:03.000 After President Nixon steps down, Gerald Ford pardons President Nixon for anything that he could have been charged with.
01:13:09.000 Watergate, right?
01:13:09.000 For Watergate.
01:13:10.000 But there are other things that he did.
01:13:11.000 Also, I believe he pardoned Spiro Agnew as well, because Spiro Agnew got caught up.
01:13:15.000 He was the vice president before...
01:13:17.000 Spiro Agnew was the vice president, had to step down because of some real estate scam or something like that.
01:13:21.000 And they named Gerald Ford, who was a...
01:13:23.000 I forgot, from Michigan.
01:13:26.000 I forgot where he was from.
01:13:26.000 He becomes president of the United States and then pardons Richard Nixon.
01:13:30.000 So that would be an example of it.
01:13:32.000 However, the Supreme Court of the United States can strike down a pardon.
01:13:36.000 And that would be the concern, was that if he becomes elected and then he also tries to pardon himself, he does not have ad hoc rights to pardon anyone for any reason.
01:13:44.000 If they say this violates...
01:13:47.000 Whatever crime, then they can also say that he can't pardon himself.
01:13:50.000 And Chad was saying that he can pardon himself.
01:13:52.000 I mean, I don't know, because it's never been used where a president pardons himself.
01:13:55.000 Do you think DeSantis would pardon him?
01:13:57.000 He will.
01:13:58.000 He might.
01:13:58.000 He will.
01:13:58.000 We actually...
01:14:00.000 Shout out to David Rubin.
01:14:01.000 Dave Rubin is good friends with DeSantis.
01:14:03.000 We had him on the show.
01:14:04.000 And we were talking about this discussion, and I was telling him that more than likely Trump, if he faces it, if he says he's going to get found guilty, and I was asking him, you know, it'd be great if DeSantis pardoned him, or the next person that comes in should pardon him.
01:14:14.000 He said, yeah, if DeSantis takes off for CR Republic, he said...
01:14:16.000 You know, it'd be super interesting.
01:14:18.000 Trump probably knows this.
01:14:20.000 So if they ever had to debate, it would be interesting to see how Trump debated with him, knowing that he kind of has to hit him.
01:14:26.000 But at the same time, if they send me to jail, can you get me out?
01:14:29.000 To be fair, DeSantis has been pretty consistently defending Trump when it comes to these legal matters.
01:14:35.000 Even though he disagrees with him on certain things, he's called this a witch hunt.
01:14:39.000 DeSantis has previously.
01:14:40.000 So I think I agree with you.
01:14:42.000 I think he would attempt to pardon him.
01:14:44.000 I'm not fond of a lot of politicians, but I think DeSantis is very like...
01:14:47.000 Whatever he says, he does.
01:14:49.000 Which I like.
01:14:50.000 The thing about Trump is that he makes things very personal sometimes.
01:14:53.000 And so I can just see him in a debate needing to bite his tongue.
01:14:57.000 Yeah, going after Ted Cruz's wife and stuff like that.
01:14:59.000 He talks shit.
01:15:00.000 That gets kind of ugly.
01:15:02.000 I'm curious with the DeSantis thing, way off topic, but you might be interested in this, Myron, is that he was an attorney working for the State Department during the investigations at Gitmo.
01:15:12.000 Oh, really?
01:15:13.000 He was running the Department of Defense, I believe.
01:15:14.000 So during the enhanced interrogations, the waterboard, I believe he was working there.
01:15:18.000 And I'm curious how that's going to affect in the general election when we find out, when that kind of stuff comes out.
01:15:24.000 Meaning, he was probably privy to the waterboarding situation, which, by the way, as a former U.S. military member, I'll say this right now, waterboarding is not torture.
01:15:31.000 Waterboarding is not torture.
01:15:32.000 I don't care.
01:15:33.000 It sucks.
01:15:33.000 It's really bad.
01:15:34.000 It's not fun to do it.
01:15:35.000 But the reason why I know it's not torture is because they do it to us whenever they put us through training and none of us die.
01:15:39.000 It's not torture.
01:15:40.000 Torture is what they did to John McCain.
01:15:42.000 And I think it's actually...
01:15:43.000 In Vietnam, right?
01:15:45.000 Yeah.
01:15:45.000 I think it's a disservice.
01:15:46.000 They popped both of his shoulders out of socket and flipped him over.
01:15:48.000 And that dude didn't even give up his name.
01:15:51.000 What they did to John McCain, I think, is a disservice when they start calling sleep deprivation and waterboarding torture.
01:15:57.000 That is not torture.
01:15:58.000 Let's enhance interrogation.
01:16:00.000 It definitely sucks.
01:16:01.000 And to do it to a witness in the United States, I think is immoral.
01:16:03.000 But if someone kidnapped my child, you better believe I'm going to do that to them.
01:16:06.000 And I'll say that right now publicly.
01:16:07.000 I don't think it's immoral whatsoever if somebody did something like that.
01:16:10.000 But that's not torture.
01:16:11.000 I think it does a disservice to people who've actually been tortured when you say stuff like that.
01:16:16.000 Yeah, because they put the bamboo reeds in his nails, if I'm not mistaken.
01:16:19.000 Yeah, they did some horrible stuff.
01:16:21.000 So, okay, where we at here?
01:16:23.000 You know, we could read some of these rumble rants.
01:16:24.000 And I'm actually pulling up a Twitter thing here because Vivek Ramaswamy, he's an Indian guy.
01:16:33.000 He's a businessman.
01:16:35.000 He's going to run for president as well on the Republican side.
01:16:40.000 And even he said, yo, this is messed up what they're doing with Trump.
01:16:43.000 So which one?
01:16:44.000 I think everybody knows that they have a hard-on for him because Trump is very anti-establishment.
01:16:50.000 And whenever you're anti-establishment, they don't want you in office.
01:16:54.000 Because he has his own money.
01:16:55.000 That's another thing, too.
01:16:56.000 He has his own money.
01:16:57.000 So it's like, does he really need the political donors as much as other candidates do?
01:17:00.000 War.
01:17:01.000 And the other thing is, he's anti-establishment.
01:17:03.000 What you just said, he's anti-establishment, even anti the Hawks in the Republican Party, right?
01:17:08.000 That because he has his own money.
01:17:09.000 You know, you said he doesn't want war.
01:17:11.000 Like there's people even on the right who disagree with him.
01:17:14.000 So when you say anti-establishment, he's fully anti-establishment, right?
01:17:17.000 Because he came in there with his own money.
01:17:18.000 And so that's another reason that happens.
01:17:20.000 It's like you would expect all this support from the right, but some people on the right don't support him either.
01:17:24.000 So that could be an issue.
01:17:26.000 Yeah.
01:17:26.000 I have another question, but I'll just save it for later.
01:17:28.000 World War III, but we'll talk about that in a different way.
01:17:30.000 Let's get into that.
01:17:31.000 I'll hit these rumble bands real quick.
01:17:32.000 UFOs, man.
01:17:33.000 UFOs.
01:17:34.000 Okay.
01:17:34.000 We got here.
01:17:35.000 Living Reality goes, Myron, how practical is it for you to own multiple real estate without driving your own car?
01:17:40.000 Do you rent cars everywhere?
01:17:41.000 Have family to drive?
01:17:42.000 Take Ubers?
01:17:42.000 Is this coming from someone who hates driving?
01:17:44.000 I have a car.
01:17:44.000 It's a 2200, man.
01:17:46.000 That car is awesome.
01:17:47.000 That car is legendary.
01:17:48.000 He don't drive it though.
01:17:49.000 Yeah, I don't drive it.
01:17:50.000 Man, these four men in the same room, upper level conversations coming, gentlemen.
01:17:53.000 Pay attention and like the damn video.
01:17:55.000 Join the CEO Network and don't get left behind.
01:17:56.000 Shout out to you, JR Ramirez.
01:17:56.000 Shout out to J, man.
01:17:57.000 We got JR Ramirez again.
01:17:58.000 It goes, one of the funniest lines I heard from Michael was when he was on Axis Vegas.
01:18:03.000 Just told Michael that he looks good full homo.
01:18:05.000 That's the funny shit bros say to each other.
01:18:07.000 CEO Network, what's up, Mo?
01:18:08.000 Okay.
01:18:08.000 He said, we say all homo.
01:18:11.000 It's not full homo.
01:18:12.000 Would you speak to my guys in the network?
01:18:16.000 Of course, 100%.
01:18:17.000 Yeah, anytime.
01:18:18.000 Dude, I will speak to anything.
01:18:19.000 I'll do five hours with your guys.
01:18:20.000 Anything you want, dude.
01:18:21.000 For sure.
01:18:22.000 We can go over stock option trading.
01:18:24.000 Big plus.
01:18:26.000 Big boss.
01:18:27.000 Ow!
01:18:28.000 On me?
01:18:28.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:18:29.000 I told you, man.
01:18:29.000 I told you.
01:18:30.000 Let's do it.
01:18:30.000 Whenever.
01:18:31.000 We'll do it.
01:18:32.000 You haven't been around.
01:18:33.000 I know.
01:18:33.000 I'm never here.
01:18:35.000 No, but definitely we'll do another stream on Justin's channel for you all as well.
01:18:38.000 I'll be there.
01:18:39.000 Hey, I've been reaching out to Justin.
01:18:40.000 He just hasn't hit me back.
01:18:41.000 Have a great night, guys.
01:18:42.000 WSL CEO Network, Big Bossing.
01:18:44.000 Shout out to you, my friend.
01:18:44.000 Shout out to Cody, man.
01:18:45.000 And then Hidden Mist, thanks for providing value.
01:18:47.000 Got my money up.
01:18:48.000 Excellent credit.
01:18:49.000 Three properties down 30 pounds at around 12% body fat.
01:18:51.000 Much love to Jay Waller for the taste.
01:18:53.000 Shout out to you, bro.
01:18:54.000 Guys, becoming excellent here.
01:18:55.000 Real G's, keep doing what you're doing.
01:18:56.000 God bless.
01:18:57.000 Cool.
01:18:57.000 Thank you, bro.
01:18:57.000 And guys, we're going to switch over to UFOs here in a second.
01:19:00.000 Can't wait.
01:19:00.000 W Rumble, W Joy Waller, W Second Amendment.
01:19:03.000 There we go.
01:19:04.000 Second Amendment.
01:19:05.000 Maz goes, what's up, fellas?
01:19:06.000 Huge fan.
01:19:07.000 23 years old.
01:19:07.000 Been driving semi-trucks for seven months.
01:19:09.000 I work around 70 hours a week.
01:19:10.000 Any advice on how to get another reliable stream of income while working so much?
01:19:12.000 I'll let you guys take it if you want.
01:19:14.000 Go ahead.
01:19:14.000 You got one?
01:19:17.000 70 hours a week.
01:19:20.000 Trucking.
01:19:22.000 Yeah, man, there's a million things you could do.
01:19:24.000 If I was a truck driver, I would, and I know you're making good money, man, so I would hire a little assistant to go on Facebook Marketplace and start finding you single-family mobile homes and owner finances, bitches out, make a bag bag.
01:19:35.000 For sure.
01:19:36.000 That's what I would do.
01:19:37.000 I would recommend.
01:19:38.000 He's going to be making six figures working 70 hours a week as a truck driver.
01:19:42.000 He's smashing it.
01:19:43.000 Just to pay a little assistant or somebody to scrum Facebook Marketplace.
01:19:47.000 They give these free trailers away, man.
01:19:48.000 A lot of times you can just pay to move them and get you a real estate agent that can find land and zone for it.
01:19:54.000 And then just put those two and two together.
01:19:56.000 Instead of renting it out, owner finance it.
01:19:58.000 Give somebody the American dream.
01:19:59.000 You're going to be ahead on the note.
01:20:00.000 Because the bills are probably nothing since he's on the road all the time.
01:20:02.000 Yeah, man.
01:20:04.000 Brilliant what he just said.
01:20:06.000 So how would you get that information?
01:20:08.000 We're listening on Rumble.
01:20:08.000 You can listen at double speed.
01:20:09.000 Guys, what you need to do is especially, this is something a lot of people did during the pandemic and came out with new businesses, is they started driving for Uber Eats.
01:20:16.000 So they started driving for some delivery service, right?
01:20:19.000 And when they did so, they would put AirPods in and they would listen to every podcast, every YouTube video.
01:20:19.000 Postmates.
01:20:25.000 You can go to Coursera.
01:20:26.000 You can go to iTunes U.com.
01:20:28.000 You can go to the Khan Academy and just learn, learn, learn till you can find some level of expertise.
01:20:33.000 I think the best thing you can do is educate yourself.
01:20:36.000 There's so many things you can do, but I would become obsessed with audiobooks and podcasts that can help you get towards your goals.
01:20:41.000 And then you're going to get gems like what he said right now.
01:20:43.000 I'm sure some...
01:20:46.000 Clients, I guarantee you, are all listening to this at double speed.
01:20:48.000 They're going to listen to this whole show at double speed.
01:20:50.000 That's one thing I highly recommend people do is get as much information in as you can as quickly as you can.
01:20:54.000 I do that with Audible as well.
01:20:55.000 1.5.
01:20:56.000 It's funny because my first job here was taking phone calls at AT&T and I need extra income.
01:21:01.000 So I did Uber.
01:21:02.000 And what I would do is I would have headphones in, but I would wait to see if the guests wanted me to talk to them or not.
01:21:07.000 If they didn't want to talk, perfect.
01:21:08.000 Pop in a podcast, BiggerPockets, Grant Cardone, Real Estate, learned that.
01:21:12.000 When I got home, studied like a maniac at Starbucks or my house.
01:21:15.000 Yeah.
01:21:16.000 You're right, bro.
01:21:16.000 And it changed my whole life.
01:21:18.000 I want to say something about that Starbucks thing.
01:21:19.000 A lot of times I would leave my office because I knew that my house was so quiet and that atmosphere wasn't good.
01:21:25.000 I would go to a place like Starbucks or even a sports bar and sit there with my laptop.
01:21:30.000 What happens is you get yourself in that environment and that environment can light you up kind of like an airport will do.
01:21:34.000 And so that's a really important thing that you just pointed out is like a lot of times at the end of a work day, put yourself in another atmosphere that has like an energy about it.
01:21:44.000 That'll make you work even longer and harder.
01:21:46.000 Because when you're home, it's comfortable.
01:21:48.000 You know, you've got TV there.
01:21:49.000 Netflix food.
01:21:50.000 There's a dog.
01:21:51.000 You get lazy.
01:21:52.000 But Starbucks, everyone's hustling, bustling.
01:21:54.000 Coffee, computers.
01:21:56.000 You're right.
01:21:56.000 And it's a part of your story.
01:21:58.000 I used to go to this Starbucks after work and try to develop myself.
01:22:03.000 So you start to build this montage, this hero's journey story when you do these types of things.
01:22:08.000 And that is where I met the guy with the Lambo that inspired me to get a Lambo that day.
01:22:11.000 Pulled up with a blonde, blue eyes, Big ass.
01:22:14.000 I was like, damn, who is this guy?
01:22:15.000 Shout out to interracial sex.
01:22:16.000 And now that is me pulling up.
01:22:19.000 And guys, we got 12,000 plus y'all watching live.
01:22:21.000 So do me a favor, man.
01:22:22.000 Can y'all please like the video and then follow us on Rumble?
01:22:24.000 We want to hit 500,000 followers on here.
01:22:27.000 We'll have another party as well.
01:22:28.000 And we'll have another party depending on what we hit first.
01:22:31.000 Whether it's a million on the Cliffs channel or 500k on here.
01:22:34.000 We'll throw another boat party for y'all.
01:22:36.000 Okay, where are we at here?
01:22:37.000 We got Demetra goes, Hey Fresh, here's my Insta that you asked for and I couldn't give you last show.
01:22:41.000 And then he puts it down.
01:22:43.000 I finished editing your gun range vlog, so let me know your thoughts if you want to see it while I work on a thumbnail.
01:22:47.000 Cool.
01:22:48.000 Fresh has you.
01:22:49.000 And then shout out to Waller and FNF. My life's shit right now.
01:22:52.000 I work 18 hours, 6 days a week, pulling 95k a year.
01:22:54.000 I'm getting fit pull-ups, push-ups every day.
01:22:57.000 Once I'm 15% body fat, I'm chasing these hoes.
01:22:59.000 Alright, good stuff, my friend.
01:23:00.000 Just don't spend too much time chasing them.
01:23:02.000 If you looked up testosterone in the dictionary, a picture of Waller shows up.
01:23:04.000 Alright.
01:23:07.000 Same guy from before.
01:23:08.000 23-year-old trucker.
01:23:09.000 Should I leave trucking for cybersecurity since trucking is going to shit?
01:23:12.000 I appreciate the value.
01:23:13.000 Shout out to you guys.
01:23:14.000 Trucking is never going to go to shit because people are always going to want their stuff delivered.
01:23:17.000 The thing is with cybersecurity, whatever is scalable, that is how you're going.
01:23:21.000 If you want to start a business that's scalable, that's the thing that's going to help you the most.
01:23:24.000 A fleet of truckers or get into cybersecurity and start developing maybe your own software.
01:23:30.000 Yeah.
01:23:30.000 What do we got here?
01:23:33.000 18Nando81 goes, Waller had that off girl wet after he told his story about spending money on his crew.
01:23:38.000 Probably something I missed.
01:23:39.000 Maybe a podcast.
01:23:40.000 Maybe it was whenever, when we were on there.
01:23:42.000 You remember with Farrah?
01:23:44.000 What's her name?
01:23:45.000 The one who lied about being a virgin?
01:23:46.000 Oh, the Onikans girl?
01:23:47.000 Yeah.
01:23:49.000 Either way.
01:23:50.000 Mikalifa.
01:23:50.000 Mikalifa, yeah.
01:23:51.000 Mikalifa, yeah.
01:23:52.000 Pretty girl.
01:23:53.000 Stop the cat.
01:23:54.000 Did she hit you up afterwards?
01:23:56.000 Strategy was like being a virgin.
01:23:58.000 Cannot confirm.
01:24:01.000 I'm not trying to out that girl.
01:24:03.000 That girl, she's a nice girl, man.
01:24:04.000 She might have an OnlyFans, but you know, whatever.
01:24:06.000 She's pretty.
01:24:08.000 It is what it is.
01:24:09.000 Man of elegance.
01:24:10.000 I know y'all probably heard about Cardi B throwing her microphone at a fan, but hit the wrong girl and that girl suing Cardi.
01:24:16.000 But y'all know Cardi asked the crowd to throw water on her before that?
01:24:18.000 Yeah, I did hear about that.
01:24:19.000 Yeah, that's crazy.
01:24:20.000 Was that at Dre's in Vegas?
01:24:21.000 It looked like it was at Dre's.
01:24:22.000 I don't know where that was.
01:24:23.000 It was in Vegas.
01:24:24.000 It looks like they're on stage outside at Dre's because I could see across the street.
01:24:28.000 I could see Bellagio.
01:24:29.000 That's why I thought it was Dre's.
01:24:30.000 Talk about getting hit up outside the head with some luck.
01:24:33.000 I wish I would have got hit with a microphone all you want.
01:24:37.000 And I would have kept the microphone.
01:24:41.000 Actually, they're selling it on eBay, I think, for a good set of money.
01:24:44.000 Wow.
01:24:44.000 Basically, Inditing Sleepy Joe and his crime family, as well, keep the same energy.
01:24:48.000 Very true.
01:24:48.000 I mean, if we were to talk about Hunter Biden, they're never going to talk about him and the laptop and all the bullshit he did.
01:24:52.000 I mean, he just basically got a misdemeanor, if I'm not mistaken, slap on the wrist for tax evasion.
01:24:56.000 Trump should use the left's logic against them and say, it's my truth that the election was stolen.
01:25:00.000 They're the party of acceptance, aren't they?
01:25:02.000 Oh, the other thing I was going to say, too, is once Trump wins the election and parties himself, he is absolutely going to fire everyone over at the Department of Justice.
01:25:10.000 He's going to get rid of fucking Mayor Garland, which, by the way...
01:25:14.000 That's if he wins.
01:25:15.000 Mayor Garland...
01:25:17.000 That's all I'm going to say with him.
01:25:19.000 But yeah, he's definitely going to fire him and get rid of Jack Smith and all these guys over there at the Department of Justice.
01:25:25.000 What do you guys think about Vivek Ramassar?
01:25:27.000 I just talked about it.
01:25:29.000 He made some really good comments about the whole Trump situation, talking about how we're going into a banana republic, etc., by using the Department of Justice as a political tool.
01:25:38.000 It's not a good look for anyone to lock up the president.
01:25:41.000 I know you guys are going to be like, well, if it was Hillary Clinton, it's not a good look for your nation to lock up your president.
01:25:47.000 I don't care who you are.
01:25:48.000 There's an author that quoted in the book.
01:25:50.000 He said, if anything can happen, it'll happen in America.
01:25:54.000 And if that happens to us, our presidents in jail, our former president, dude, that's not the president for anything to happen after that.
01:26:00.000 Yeah.
01:26:00.000 Pretty much.
01:26:00.000 For every other president going forward also.
01:26:03.000 Yeah.
01:26:03.000 Exactly.
01:26:03.000 If you don't comply with the rules, we'll just put you in jail.
01:26:05.000 Yeah.
01:26:06.000 Question.
01:26:06.000 Yeah.
01:26:07.000 I'm going to ask a bunch of questions on this show.
01:26:09.000 Let's do it, bro.
01:26:10.000 And this might be super tinfoil hat.
01:26:13.000 Is there any chance that people that didn't get in trouble previously, Hillary, and the people that collude with Russia could backdoor have a situation set up with BRICS? Because BRICS is a legitimate concern.
01:26:32.000 My concern about BRICS as a separate thing is that, so do you remember in the EU, one of the problems was Greece started running up a bunch of debt, and then Germany had to pay for the debt, and Britain had to pay for the debt, so Britain wanted to leave.
01:26:43.000 That's what Brexit was.
01:26:44.000 When you have the currency that's controlled by a bunch of different agencies, then one country can spend a bunch of money, and the other countries, the two main economies in the EU were the United Kingdom and Germany.
01:26:56.000 And so these other countries that were much more socialist were like basically devaluing the currency.
01:27:01.000 My problem with BRIC is what you're saying before is that Venezuela will quickly devalue the currency if they get their hands on any power to do so.
01:27:08.000 And probably South Africa will as well.
01:27:10.000 And then you have a third issue.
01:27:11.000 Is Venezuela part of BRICS? Isn't it?
01:27:12.000 No, I don't think so.
01:27:14.000 Brazil, India, China.
01:27:19.000 South Africa, Russia.
01:27:21.000 And Russia.
01:27:22.000 I'd heard previously that they wanted to include Venezuela.
01:27:25.000 I got that wrong.
01:27:26.000 They might be trying to get in.
01:27:27.000 The other issue is the Hague has now issued an arrest warrant for Vladimir Putin.
01:27:33.000 And so now what happened?
01:27:34.000 What has happened now?
01:27:35.000 He can't leave the...
01:27:36.000 Like literally South Africa was going to have a BRICS conference and can't do it because one of the situations is Vladimir Putin...
01:27:42.000 War crimes?
01:27:42.000 What's it for?
01:27:43.000 It was specifically for something to do with children in Ukraine being moved from one place to another or kidnapped or something like that.
01:27:49.000 Bro, what the fuck?
01:27:51.000 See, this is why, bro, like...
01:27:54.000 Once again, if you're not with the agenda, they want you out of there.
01:27:57.000 And Putin is not with the agenda at all.
01:27:59.000 He's anti-establishment.
01:28:01.000 Like we're saying with Trump.
01:28:03.000 Wow.
01:28:04.000 Okay, so they're charging him with...
01:28:07.000 Somebody can just look it up, the specific crimes, but I just saw this yesterday.
01:28:11.000 Let's see what the chat says.
01:28:12.000 I mean, yeah.
01:28:12.000 I did hear that he got charged.
01:28:14.000 Don't shoot the messenger.
01:28:15.000 I just didn't know who issued it.
01:28:16.000 Don't shoot the messenger.
01:28:17.000 But yes, I believe the Hague issued a arrest warrant for him.
01:28:22.000 That's fucking crazy, bro.
01:28:23.000 I mean, yeah, he's public enemy number one for a bunch of reasons.
01:28:26.000 But, yeah.
01:28:27.000 Alright, what else do we got here, Mo?
01:28:29.000 We got here.
01:28:30.000 Dean for Truth goes, the political, industrial, and societal leaders are high school nerds who ganged up and taking out their revenge on the world.
01:28:36.000 Loser sob story origins, but have all the keys and finger on the button.
01:28:42.000 And then we got CEO Nate goes, love and appreciate you guys leading the resistance from the front, making men better.
01:28:48.000 Sent DM, I run 40k a month agency.
01:28:51.000 Businesses get more clients for three plus years now, and I want to teach your guys how to do it.
01:28:56.000 Cool.
01:28:56.000 Okay.
01:28:57.000 Hit it fresh.
01:28:58.000 Okay, so now we're going to go ahead and transition to probably the...
01:29:02.000 I know you guys were having a discussion on this before.
01:29:05.000 I'll go ahead and just set the mood, and then you guys can go ahead and go crazy.
01:29:10.000 So, as you guys know...
01:29:11.000 What?
01:29:12.000 Ooh, the mood.
01:29:12.000 You had to make a game, huh?
01:29:15.000 So, just so you guys know...
01:29:16.000 Okay, that's 129, Mo.
01:29:18.000 Make your notes.
01:29:20.000 129.
01:29:21.000 Anyway, so as you guys know, last week, there were three individuals that went ahead and testified in front of Congress on UFOs, okay?
01:29:29.000 And as you guys know, this is something that's been...
01:29:31.000 Out in the, you know, science fiction, people have talked about UFOs, people have talked about aliens forever.
01:29:37.000 And for the first time in American history, it was confirmed 1000% that there is life besides human beings.
01:29:43.000 And not only that, they came to some, you know, really shocking revelations.
01:29:47.000 One, that we have UFO planes or, you know...
01:29:52.000 Flying saucers, spacecraft parts, and we have biological matter of aliens or UFOs that were captured post-crash.
01:30:02.000 And this was all answered in front of Congress, as you guys know, when you go ahead and ask questions in front of Congress, they swear you in.
01:30:09.000 Everything that you say is under oath, so if you lie, you can absolutely go to prison.
01:30:14.000 And on top of that, you know, Some of the stuff they had to say, hey, I can't disclose that because of classification, blah, blah, blah.
01:30:18.000 These three people that went ahead and testified, a lot of them have gotten in trouble or felt some type of persecution for coming out with this stuff.
01:30:25.000 But I think the main bottom line here is that it's the first time that they've put a light on this and actually confirmed 1,000% that we are definitely not the only living beings.
01:30:36.000 And I could go ahead and have a video here that shows some of this stuff from the congressional testimony because they've been trying to get to the bottom of this shit For the better part of 70 years, guys.
01:30:46.000 This dude did not want to say it, bro.
01:30:48.000 Can I tell a quick joke about UFOs?
01:30:51.000 Go ahead.
01:30:52.000 This one night, I was out with a girl, right?
01:30:57.000 I asked her, have you ever seen a UFO? She's like, no, I haven't.
01:31:03.000 I put my pants down.
01:31:04.000 I told her, unidentified fresh object.
01:31:09.000 There you go.
01:31:09.000 I think that settles it.
01:31:11.000 Alien life is confirmed.
01:31:15.000 Alright.
01:31:18.000 Let's run the clip and then we'll go ahead and get the people's reactions.
01:31:22.000 You know what?
01:31:25.000 I tried, okay?
01:31:29.000 Hit play, Mo.
01:31:30.000 And mute your mic.
01:31:32.000 If you believe we have crashed craft, stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft?
01:31:39.000 Biologics came with some of these recoveries.
01:31:41.000 Yeah.
01:31:42.000 That's fucking crazy.
01:31:48.000 Were they, I guess, human or non-human biologics?
01:31:52.000 Non-human, and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked to that are currently still on the program.
01:31:58.000 We're at a location at approximately 20,000 feet in a controller called Merge Plot, which means that our radar blip was now in the same resolution cell as the contact.
01:32:06.000 As we looked around, we noticed that we saw some whitewater off our right side.
01:32:09.000 It's important to note that the weather on this day was as close to perfect as you could ask for off the coast of San Diego.
01:32:14.000 Clear skies, light winds, calm seas, no whitecaps from waves.
01:32:17.000 So the whitewater stood out in a large blue ocean.
01:32:21.000 All four of us, because we were an F-18F, so we had pilots and WIZO in the backseat, looked down a small, saw a white tic-tac object with a longitudinal axis pointing north-south and moving very abruptly over the water like a ping-pong ball.
01:32:33.000 There were no rotors, no rotor wash, or any sign of visible control surfaces like wings.
01:32:38.000 As we started clockwise towards the object, my WIZO and I decided to go down and take a closer look at the other aircraft staying in high cover to observe both us and the tic-tac.
01:32:49.000 Thank you.
01:32:53.000 Thank you.
01:32:55.000 Thank you.
01:33:04.000 Our altitude at this point was about 15,000 feet, and the tic-tac was about 12,000.
01:33:08.000 As we pulled nose onto the object, within about a half mile of it, it rapidly accelerated in front of us and disappeared.
01:33:13.000 Our wingmen, roughly 8,000 feet above us, lost contact also.
01:33:17.000 We immediately turned back to see where the whitewater was at, and it was gone also.
01:33:21.000 So as we started to turn back towards the east, the controller came up and said, sir, you're not going to believe this, but that thing is at your cat point, roughly 60 miles away in less than a minute.
01:33:29.000 You can calculate the speed.
01:33:30.000 What steps do you think you have to be taken to improve a pilot's UAP reporting, be it military or commercial?
01:33:37.000 Right now, we need a system where pilots can report without fear of losing their jobs.
01:33:42.000 There is a fear that the stigma associated with this topic is going to lead to professional repercussions, either through management or perhaps through their yearly physical check.
01:33:51.000 So having a secure system, reducing the stigma, and making this information available through the public is going to reduce the concerns that aircrew have.
01:34:00.000 Mr.
01:34:00.000 Gresh, finally, do you believe that our government is in possession of UAPs?
01:34:04.000 Absolutely based on interviewing over 40 witnesses over four years.
01:34:08.000 And where?
01:34:10.000 I know the exact locations and those locations were provided to the inspector general and some of which to the intelligence committees.
01:34:17.000 I actually had the people with the first-hand knowledge provide a protected disclosure to the inspector general.
01:34:24.000 How do you know that these were not our aircraft?
01:34:28.000 Some of the behaviors that we saw in a working area, we would see these objects being at 0.0 Mach, that's zero airspeed, over certain pieces of the ground.
01:34:38.000 So what that means, just like a river, if you throw a bobber in, it's going to float downstream.
01:34:42.000 These objects were staying completely stationary in category 4 hurricane winds.
01:34:47.000 These same objects would then accelerate to supersonic speeds, 1.1, 1.2 Mach, and they would do so in very erratic and quick behaviors that I don't have an explanation for.
01:34:57.000 What astonished you the most about the flight capabilities of these TicTac, very briefly?
01:35:04.000 The performance.
01:35:06.000 Absolute performance.
01:35:07.000 And you're not aware of any other objects that anybody in the world has in this world that has those capabilities?
01:35:15.000 No, I think it's far beyond, actually, our material science that we currently possess.
01:35:20.000 Hi, everyone.
01:35:21.000 Another thing, too, that also was interesting in that testimony was they asked one of the guys, because two of the guys on there were former fighter pilots, and they asked him, if the projectile wanted to get hostile, would you have been able to defend yourself?
01:35:36.000 And they both said no, because the technology that they had back then was superior to ours.
01:35:39.000 And on top of that, when they got closer to it, they said that their radars and their sensors were jamming.
01:35:44.000 So, again, I mean, I've always thought that there was life outside of just human beings, right?
01:35:48.000 I mean, it's kind of hubris to think, like, oh, yeah, there's nothing else out there except for human beings.
01:35:52.000 Like, I've always thought that there was life outside of planet Earth, but this pretty much confirms it.
01:35:56.000 And the thing also, because I know some of you guys are saying, this is fake news, blah, blah, blah.
01:35:59.000 They've been doing everything they can the past 70 years to keep this stuff out of the limelight, keep this information classified.
01:35:59.000 Here's the thing, bro.
01:36:06.000 I mean, when it comes to UFOs, this is stuff that's classified at almost, you can argue, at even a higher level than nuclear information.
01:36:13.000 But yeah, I'll turn it to you guys.
01:36:14.000 What are your thoughts on this situation?
01:36:16.000 You guys believe that there's UFOs out there?
01:36:18.000 You think this is all cap?
01:36:19.000 So even the Bible talks about having other beings other than us.
01:36:19.000 Turn it to y'all.
01:36:24.000 I need to hit the head real quick.
01:36:25.000 No, don't lean down, nigga.
01:36:25.000 Keep going.
01:36:26.000 Okay, don't.
01:36:27.000 All right, go ahead.
01:36:28.000 But question for you, Michael and Justin.
01:36:31.000 Do you believe UFOs?
01:36:33.000 If yes, why?
01:36:35.000 If no, why not?
01:36:36.000 You want to go ahead, Justin?
01:36:38.000 If you really understand how big the galaxy is, I think that there's no way in hell.
01:36:42.000 There's not other life.
01:36:43.000 And it makes perfect sense to me that we don't understand that life yet.
01:36:48.000 My concern or I'm hoping that whatever is out there, regardless of what they found, I think that there's probably something on top of whatever they found.
01:36:57.000 It's too big.
01:36:58.000 It's too big, bro.
01:37:00.000 So...
01:37:01.000 It's really like, do they want to bring a smoke or not?
01:37:04.000 That's actually what I think about.
01:37:06.000 Now, I know that Michael feels a little bit different about this subject because he's staying at my apartment right now.
01:37:12.000 There you go.
01:37:13.000 So I studied astronomy, and I will tell you...
01:37:17.000 The Fermi Paradox, it's unassailable.
01:37:19.000 There is other life.
01:37:20.000 No astronomer doesn't believe there is other life.
01:37:22.000 That is not the issue.
01:37:23.000 The issue is the nearest star to Earth is 4.1 light years away, which is 26 trillion miles, which means right now we can't even go 1% the speed of light.
01:37:32.000 So that would take 410 years to get there at 1% the speed of light.
01:37:36.000 Once you exceed, once you take matter, and I know people are going to say like, oh, but it's different physics for the aliens.
01:37:41.000 No, we can observe other galaxies and we can see that gravity works the same way in other galaxies.
01:37:46.000 We can observe Andromeda and different parts of the Milky Way galaxy.
01:37:49.000 We can see through spectroscopy what stars are made of.
01:37:51.000 So we see the elements are the same in different parts of the galaxy.
01:37:54.000 And we can use parallax and we can see how things move and we can see how far away they are.
01:37:58.000 So we see that the laws of physics tend to be uniform throughout the galaxy and other galaxies.
01:38:03.000 And when we see that, one of the things we understand through relativity is that once you push matter up to a certain...
01:38:08.000 Just follow along with me for a little while.
01:38:10.000 Once you push matter up to getting to a high fraction of C, which is the speed of light, it starts requiring so much acceleration that it would require all the energy that exists in the universe.
01:38:20.000 This is the reason why matter cannot travel at the speed of light.
01:38:23.000 If these objects that they're describing are made of matter, they call them biologics, which means they're most likely made of carbon.
01:38:29.000 They don't have to be made of carbon.
01:38:30.000 They could be made of silicate or something else.
01:38:31.000 But the reason why we talk about life on this planet as carbon-based life is because carbon allows for four covalent bonds at the same time.
01:38:38.000 This is the reason why we and all other life on this planet are made of carbon.
01:38:41.000 That's the reason why.
01:38:42.000 It's just a unique feature of the carbon atom.
01:38:45.000 So, now with that being said, the likelihood of something coming from Proxima Centauri here is extremely low, and other stars are orders of magnitude further away from that.
01:38:55.000 There is life.
01:38:56.000 I don't think it's ever been here, and I don't think it'll ever be here.
01:38:59.000 I do not agree.
01:39:00.000 So, the thing is, with the three guys that were up on there, Commander Favors, the guy in the middle, he's a Navy pilot.
01:39:04.000 The incident he was talking about happened in 2014.
01:39:07.000 No, he was on the right, the older guy.
01:39:10.000 The older guy was in the middle.
01:39:10.000 Oh, he's in the right?
01:39:11.000 The guy in the middle is the chief intelligence officer.
01:39:14.000 I forget his name, but yeah.
01:39:16.000 So Commander Favors, what I'm saying is these are not one congruent story.
01:39:20.000 These are three different people.
01:39:21.000 One person is investigating UFOs.
01:39:23.000 One person says that he's actually seen the UFOs in the bodies.
01:39:26.000 The guy on the one who says he's investigating, he's not seen the UFOs.
01:39:30.000 And Commander Favors has not seen the actual biologics.
01:39:32.000 These are three different stories from three different people.
01:39:34.000 Yeah.
01:39:35.000 Personally, I think the guy who says he's seen the biologics has either been lied to, tricked, or something to that effect, because here's the reason why.
01:39:42.000 What about, are you familiar with Dr.
01:39:45.000 I think so, possibly.
01:39:45.000 Greer?
01:39:48.000 You'd have to remind me.
01:39:49.000 Okay, I'll let you keep going.
01:39:51.000 So my issue is this.
01:39:53.000 Right now, I had a discussion with my friends about this.
01:39:56.000 I'm like, why is this still a secret?
01:39:58.000 If you were president of the United States, wouldn't this be the first thing that you would uncover?
01:40:01.000 We just had meetings on it.
01:40:04.000 The response that I got is, no, it would be a massive amount of civil unrest.
01:40:08.000 If you were the president that uncovered, that declassified that there were alien life forms, you'd get reelected in two seconds.
01:40:13.000 I don't care what anyone says.
01:40:14.000 I watched people riot in the streets during 15 months of COVID. I watched that happen.
01:40:21.000 I watched a man, a decathlete, transition to a woman and win woman of the year.
01:40:25.000 I watched the president have sex with a porn star and get elected.
01:40:28.000 And you're telling me this is going to cause civil unrest?
01:40:30.000 That is bullshit.
01:40:32.000 My point is, if you were going to lead with this story, you lead with the bodies.
01:40:37.000 Go ahead.
01:40:37.000 Let me ask you this, though.
01:40:38.000 Because Dr.
01:40:40.000 Steven Greer, he talked about this, and he said that they uncovered bodies back in 1947.
01:40:44.000 In Roswell, New Mexico.
01:40:45.000 In Roswell, New Mexico.
01:40:46.000 And he said the reason why the president didn't put it out is because there is another body of people that deal with this that aren't...
01:40:56.000 Appointed through election.
01:40:59.000 And they're basically, you know, what they would call the deep state.
01:41:02.000 People that are employed and they're always there.
01:41:03.000 So he's saying that these people don't even tell the president what the hell is going on and it's just black ops.
01:41:08.000 Yeah, I mean, the point is at some point that has to stop.
01:41:10.000 At some point, someone who's elected president is like, hey guys, you know your clearance?
01:41:14.000 Fuck your clearance.
01:41:15.000 I have higher clearance.
01:41:16.000 We're going to declassify all this and no one can stop them or we cut off the money.
01:41:20.000 That's how, by the way, that's what CIA does.
01:41:21.000 Well, that's what they...
01:41:23.000 So if that happens, then show us the bodies.
01:41:28.000 The problem is they should have led with the bodies.
01:41:32.000 The only guy who I'm even listening to is the guy with the big blue eyes.
01:41:35.000 I forgot what his name was.
01:41:36.000 The first one speaking.
01:41:37.000 The other two, I've heard those stories before.
01:41:39.000 People are acting like these are three Pentagon officers.
01:41:41.000 No, one of them is a Pentagon officer.
01:41:43.000 One of them is a commander in the U.S. Navy.
01:41:45.000 Yeah, another one's a fighter pilot.
01:41:46.000 So that's the difference.
01:41:46.000 Correct.
01:41:48.000 My point is, you should have led with the bodies.
01:41:51.000 The idea, well, here's what I think is going to happen.
01:41:53.000 I think he's either been misled or he's lying.
01:41:55.000 And what's going to happen is he's going to go on a bunch of book tours, he's going to go on a bunch of podcasts, and when the bodies never show up, he's going to see, see, the U.S. government is still hiding it from us, and you can't charge him with a crime, and he's going to be rich and famous.
01:42:05.000 That's the way I see it.
01:42:06.000 Now, I'm not saying he's lying.
01:42:07.000 He may actually believe what he saw.
01:42:09.000 I do not believe Bob Lazard, when he went to Area 51 and saw the fucking...
01:42:14.000 I don't believe in any of that stuff because at some point you have to show me, even with the TikTok videos, like my problem is then there should be 4K 60 frames per second images of this.
01:42:25.000 And there isn't.
01:42:27.000 You need to show more evidence.
01:42:29.000 It's I do believe because of the Fermi Paradox that there is other life.
01:42:33.000 It's extremely hard for them to get here.
01:42:35.000 And it's just we have too many cameras and we have too much need of evidence.
01:42:39.000 It would be so simple.
01:42:40.000 I'm telling you right now, if I was President of the United States, the first thing I would do is be like, we're declassifying all this or you guys are going to jail right now.
01:42:46.000 You are you're lying to the President of the United States.
01:42:48.000 You're going to declassify all this stuff.
01:42:49.000 And they're going to be like, we don't have anything.
01:42:50.000 Devil's advocate here.
01:42:51.000 But how would they know if they're not being told and they don't know who's behind it?
01:42:55.000 Then you cut off everything.
01:42:56.000 So the thing is, that's what the CIA does.
01:42:57.000 Sometimes when they have ops, like a new CIA director comes in and they don't know what an op is, they'll just cut off the funding.
01:43:02.000 What happens is whoever's in charge of the op has to come back and be like, yo, yo, yo, what'd you cut off our funding for?
01:43:06.000 You cut off the funding.
01:43:07.000 You do that, then all of a sudden, it's like putting a...
01:43:11.000 I'm just trying to think.
01:43:12.000 It's called a canary trap.
01:43:13.000 But you would sit there and whoever was doing this would be like, hey, yo, we need the funding.
01:43:17.000 I'm like, who are you again?
01:43:18.000 What are you hiding?
01:43:19.000 Were you saying Megatron is inside the Hoover Dam?
01:43:21.000 Show me Megatron.
01:43:22.000 Like it would be something like that, right?
01:43:23.000 That's my point.
01:43:25.000 My point is there are simple ways using Occam's razor to suss this stuff out.
01:43:30.000 And there's no way you can tell me that if a president of the United States came out and explained to the world that we have found extraterrestrial life, that there'd be riots in the streets.
01:43:38.000 No, there wasn't.
01:43:39.000 We saw the towers fall on 9-11.
01:43:41.000 We've been attacked by Japan at Pearl Harbor.
01:43:43.000 There's so many things that have happened to this world and that we didn't know.
01:43:46.000 I'm telling you, if we found that there were aliens, it would be out of the news cycle in two weeks.
01:43:50.000 That's what I'm telling you.
01:43:51.000 Because of TikTok, it'd be out of the news cycle in two weeks.
01:43:53.000 As a president, I may want to do things, but I'm held to a standard of people above me.
01:43:59.000 20 presidents in a row?
01:44:00.000 But hold on, hold on.
01:44:01.000 The agenda was always to push war and different things, not other life forms or other, I want to say, UFOs.
01:44:08.000 So as a result, it was never made a priority.
01:44:11.000 But let's say now with this new thing being brought up, It can be said that, okay, now let's look into it further.
01:44:19.000 But at the same time, it's like, right now, we haven't had anything because maybe we're not supposed to know right now.
01:44:24.000 And because of that, they kept their very history.
01:44:26.000 You still have to, like, maybe you can do this after the fact.
01:44:29.000 You still have to explain the travel equation to me.
01:44:31.000 The problem is the distance traveled and the amount of propulsion...
01:44:41.000 I could argue that they were already here.
01:44:59.000 In this, like, I want to say, verse.
01:45:02.000 But at some point, they have to get here.
01:45:03.000 And at some point, again, the thing that would happen is, if he said that these were translucent beings that did not exist in our physical world, I'd be like, okay, now you can travel to speed of light.
01:45:11.000 I could see that.
01:45:12.000 But he's saying these things are made of physical matter.
01:45:14.000 And anyone who has a basic understanding of Newtonian or Einsteinian physics, you know you can't travel fast enough in order for them to get here from some of the places.
01:45:22.000 Michael, is there any chance that...
01:45:24.000 Their version of physics is better than ours.
01:45:27.000 Well, again, the first thing I brought up was when we look at other galaxies, we can see a uniformity in the laws of physics through the, what's it called, the periodic table.
01:45:35.000 We can actually, a lot of people don't realize this, so spectroscopy, the way it works, CSI teams do this.
01:45:40.000 They'll take a volume of gas, they can shine a light through it, and there's certain wavelengths that don't emit, and you can tell this is methane, this is oxygen, this is carbon, this is whatever.
01:45:49.000 This is carbon dioxide.
01:45:49.000 Okay.
01:45:50.000 That's when we use the James Webb Telescope to look for exoplanets.
01:45:53.000 That's one of the things we look for.
01:45:54.000 We look for methane, carbon dioxide, things like that, so we can say, oh, this is a possible planet that may house life.
01:45:59.000 Because we can see far, and we can see other galaxies, and we can use spectroscopy, parallax, and we can use gravity, the laws of gravity, to see.
01:46:06.000 What we see is in all these other places, there's no place where we look and say, well, gravity is only half as strong there.
01:46:11.000 Gravity is twice as strong there.
01:46:12.000 The laws of orbital dynamics work here, but not here.
01:46:15.000 And then there's a weird element in this star that's not in it.
01:46:18.000 We don't see that Anywhere.
01:46:20.000 Everywhere we look, we see uniformity and homogeneity throughout the universe.
01:46:24.000 And so because of that, there's no evidence that I've seen that the laws of physics are different somewhere else than they are here.
01:46:28.000 But Michael, I asked you this earlier before the show.
01:46:31.000 Do you know what you don't know?
01:46:33.000 Of course not.
01:46:34.000 Here's the problem.
01:46:35.000 What I don't know, the perimeter, so as the area of my intelligence increases, so does the perimeter of my ignorance.
01:46:42.000 But I can't keep saying what I don't know is aliens or God.
01:46:45.000 That's not science.
01:46:47.000 At some point, you have to say there is a way to discover this.
01:46:50.000 My whole thing is I'm skeptical because no one has even come close to attempting an answer to some of the questions that I have about how the fuck did they get here and how has nobody just shown the bodies after all this time?
01:47:01.000 You would win a fucking Nobel Prize if you did this.
01:47:04.000 Don't tell me it would be civil unrest.
01:47:06.000 I do not understand the motivation of all the presidents.
01:47:10.000 You're telling me Bill Clinton would have been like, well, let's take a look at these aliens.
01:47:13.000 All right, let's show them.
01:47:14.000 He would have got reelected.
01:47:15.000 I mean, not reelected, obviously, but I think this whole thing is a huge distraction.
01:47:19.000 That argument of being re-elected, bro, it's already rigged.
01:47:21.000 We know what's going to happen.
01:47:22.000 Rigged or not, you would be incredibly popular if you were the president that showed the world that there were UFOs.
01:47:27.000 You already know who's going to be president next.
01:47:29.000 How about this?
01:47:30.000 How about the president of Russia?
01:47:31.000 How about the president of Xi Jinping?
01:47:33.000 The Soviets also came out And there are enemies.
01:47:36.000 They also came out with information as well as dealing with UFOs.
01:47:39.000 When this congressional stuff came out, Russia basically shared a lot of their UFO encounters, and they actually tried to engage with these fucking...
01:47:47.000 My point is, why don't they have biologics also?
01:47:50.000 And you're telling me, because you don't have to worry about...
01:47:53.000 They might, but they're just not going to tell us.
01:47:55.000 At some point, there has to be a point of failure.
01:47:57.000 There are 8 billion humans on this planet.
01:47:59.000 Someone needs to drag a body up, take it to a chemistry lab and be like, this is a form of matter that does not exist in our universe or does not exist on our planet.
01:48:08.000 This is an alien.
01:48:10.000 There's too many points of failure.
01:48:12.000 There's too many cell phones.
01:48:13.000 There's too many things that go wrong for me to believe that they actually have these biologics sitting there.
01:48:19.000 I'm going to say this one more time.
01:48:20.000 If I'm rich, I'm going to lead with the Lambo.
01:48:22.000 I'm not going to tell you I'm rich.
01:48:24.000 If Mike Tyson doesn't have to tell you he can fight, he just knocks you out.
01:48:27.000 Show me the bodies first, then do the press conference.
01:48:29.000 That's all I'm saying.
01:48:30.000 You're asking them to show you what they've been keeping secret for a while.
01:48:34.000 And it's like, why show you when I have everything that I need?
01:48:36.000 However, at the same time, I live on 84th floor.
01:48:40.000 In this building, right?
01:48:41.000 And...
01:48:42.000 What the hell?
01:48:42.000 I don't know...
01:48:43.000 No!
01:48:44.000 Listen to me, right?
01:48:45.000 Nigga just docked himself.
01:48:45.000 Stupid!
01:48:46.000 No, I'm leaving anyway.
01:48:47.000 I'm gone.
01:48:49.000 The point is that like...
01:48:50.000 Fresh leaving.
01:48:51.000 I've seen...
01:48:53.000 Things in the sky that I can't even comprehend.
01:48:55.000 There's usually drones or the planet Venus.
01:48:57.000 No, no, no, no.
01:48:58.000 The same movement he's mentioned where it went like this and this, the zigzag back and forth, like super fast, and it disappeared.
01:49:04.000 I've seen that shit.
01:49:05.000 Sure.
01:49:05.000 I put on my phone to record it, but by the time I put on my phone, it was gone.
01:49:08.000 Now, it sounds crazy.
01:49:08.000 Sure.
01:49:09.000 So you actually saw it.
01:49:11.000 I saw it.
01:49:12.000 It's funny.
01:49:13.000 The girl I was talking to at that point, she saw it too.
01:49:15.000 So I'm like, what the fuck was that?
01:49:17.000 It wasn't a plane.
01:49:18.000 It wasn't a freaking like...
01:49:19.000 It could be a drone.
01:49:22.000 That's my point.
01:49:22.000 No, no.
01:49:23.000 I can see what a drone is.
01:49:26.000 So different kinds of drones.
01:49:28.000 Like a Global Hawk or a Predator.
01:49:32.000 A cone-shaped object.
01:49:34.000 It went like this, this, and it disappeared.
01:49:36.000 And I'm like, what the fuck was that?
01:49:37.000 You saw that on the 84th floor.
01:49:38.000 It was able to move laterally without any type of...
01:49:41.000 In two seconds.
01:49:42.000 Gone.
01:49:43.000 And I was just like, how's this possible?
01:49:44.000 Now, I don't know what that was.
01:49:46.000 It could be a UFO. I don't know what it was.
01:49:48.000 I'm just saying, there's things that we don't understand.
01:49:51.000 And to say that like, oh yeah, show me the proof?
01:49:53.000 Why did they show us?
01:49:55.000 We're freaking...
01:49:56.000 Well, I don't want to say very...
01:49:57.000 If your narrative is correct in this congressional meeting...
01:50:04.000 Go show the Goy!
01:50:06.000 Oh, fuck, bro.
01:50:08.000 I didn't hear what he said.
01:50:09.000 You don't want to hear it.
01:50:10.000 If this is true, if your narrative is true, then this is your first single point of failure.
01:50:14.000 But I'll bet you a steak dinner in five years, there was no bodies.
01:50:18.000 We don't see any additional proof, and these guys have all enriched themselves in all written books, and there's no additional...
01:50:24.000 I'm telling you, the thing is...
01:50:25.000 You should look at some of Stephen Greer's work, man.
01:50:27.000 I'll definitely look at it, but lead with...
01:50:29.000 He's a leading person on this, and he has been covering this for like 30 years.
01:50:33.000 I watched one of his documentaries, Unacknowledged, yesterday, and it's a very compelling case for space, but I can see your perspective, too, where you're saying, I don't doubt that there's life out there.
01:50:42.000 I doubt, how the hell did they get here?
01:50:44.000 Yes.
01:50:44.000 The problem is if we're dealing with objects that are made of matter, maybe they're not made of carbon.
01:50:51.000 Most likely they are, by the way.
01:50:52.000 What if they're so technologically advanced, playing devil's advocate here, because you do make a very good point here.
01:50:57.000 The speed at which they would travel to come here, they wouldn't be able to survive.
01:51:01.000 What if their technology is so advanced that they're able to Okay, so here's the thing.
01:51:04.000 If they were able to move at the speed of light, so that's the other thing.
01:51:07.000 What they need is either a generational ship or the ability to move in stasis.
01:51:10.000 That could happen.
01:51:11.000 The problem is we're getting back to the same thing.
01:51:13.000 So let's say you look at a planet that is far away.
01:51:17.000 So you guys realize a planet that is 65 million light years away would take a telescope, look at the Earth, and you know what they would see?
01:51:22.000 They would see dinosaurs.
01:51:24.000 That we're here 65 million years ago because light travels at 186,282 miles a second.
01:51:28.000 Light travels, so they would not...
01:51:30.000 The likelihood of them finding us is infinitely small.
01:51:34.000 The likelihood of them coming...
01:51:35.000 This planet is 3.8 billion years old.
01:51:37.000 The humans have only been on this planet for 300,000 years.
01:51:40.000 And they've only been intelligent, meaning had writing and reading and marriage and all this kind of stuff for 11,700 years.
01:51:47.000 So the likelihood of them showing up at this one planet in the Orion arm of the galaxy at this one...
01:51:52.000 Period of time to get here at the perfect time when they're...
01:51:55.000 What's an explanation for that, though?
01:51:56.000 Well, the travel time would be like even...
01:51:58.000 Let's just say they come from halfway down the Orion Arm.
01:52:01.000 That's still 50,000 light years.
01:52:03.000 They have to get it perfect.
01:52:04.000 You see what I'm saying?
01:52:05.000 And let's say they're traveling at the speed of light.
01:52:07.000 Somehow they figured out FTL, faster than light travel, and they do that.
01:52:10.000 The reality is it's still going to take them 50,000 years.
01:52:13.000 Now, for them, because of time dilation, they're not going to experience any time.
01:52:16.000 You're correct.
01:52:17.000 Once you go 86% the speed of light, time dilation cuts the time you experience in half.
01:52:22.000 They're saying the reason why they've been showing up at that particular time was once we started using nuclear bombs.
01:52:27.000 Agree, but still, the radiation from nuclear bombs and, of course, the first emission of television things was that guy who ran Germany in 1939.
01:52:37.000 No, that was actually the first television broadcast that went around the world was the guy who ran Germany in 1939.
01:52:42.000 That was the first time we had ever shown anything on television.
01:52:45.000 But those emissions travel at 300,000 kilometers a second.
01:52:49.000 186,282 miles a second.
01:52:51.000 Meaning, there's a shell.
01:52:52.000 Everything we emit, it emits out like this from planet Earth, but it can only go the speed of light.
01:52:58.000 Photons can only travel at one speed, the speed of light.
01:53:00.000 That's why it's called C, constant.
01:53:02.000 So whatever has to happen, it has to get to us.
01:53:05.000 That takes 50,000 years.
01:53:06.000 And then it has to go back to them.
01:53:07.000 That takes 50,000 years.
01:53:09.000 Humans have only been around for 200,000 years.
01:53:12.000 The likelihood of them getting here at this point, there's just a bunch of factors that need to be explained to me for me to believe that any of this stuff is real.
01:53:18.000 And one more time, I'm going to say this again, lead with the bodies.
01:53:22.000 They should have lived with the bodies and not had this congressional hearing.
01:53:25.000 They should put subpoenas on people.
01:53:26.000 They should name names.
01:53:27.000 For this guy, he's willing to be a whistleblower.
01:53:29.000 It seems to me he has the information for the location.
01:53:32.000 He has the names of all these people.
01:53:34.000 So let's start getting subpoenas.
01:53:35.000 And then this should...
01:53:36.000 Well, they're going to have another one in the skiff.
01:53:39.000 For sure.
01:53:40.000 They can have another one in the skiff.
01:53:41.000 But my point is, we're going to get to a point where like...
01:53:45.000 You can't tell me that civil unrest is the reason why they're not exposing these aliens.
01:53:50.000 I disagree.
01:53:51.000 This story right here should have caused everybody to start burning shit in the streets, and it didn't.
01:53:56.000 It's just barely part of a news cycle.
01:53:57.000 I'm telling you right now, guys, I'll say this again, and it's because of TikTok and because of other social media platforms.
01:54:02.000 If we found unassailable physical proof that there were aliens, it would be out of the news cycle in two weeks.
01:54:09.000 No one would care.
01:54:10.000 Now, but in the 40s, maybe not.
01:54:12.000 Of course not.
01:54:12.000 You know what I mean?
01:54:14.000 So, okay.
01:54:15.000 There's an argument.
01:54:16.000 I see your perspective.
01:54:17.000 From a religious standpoint where they say aliens are fallen angels.
01:54:21.000 And I actually agree because on some level...
01:54:23.000 Well, most Christians don't even believe there are aliens because they would have never received the word of God.
01:54:27.000 Therefore, they could have never been saved.
01:54:29.000 That's what, like, if we had Nick Fuentes on right here, that's what he would say.
01:54:32.000 Actually, he agrees with me.
01:54:33.000 He thinks that they're aliens?
01:54:34.000 Oh, I didn't know that.
01:54:35.000 Most fundamental Christians I know don't believe that there's anything as aliens.
01:54:40.000 But, like I said earlier, you don't know what you don't know.
01:54:43.000 So, they allege that these beings spoke to them, and they learned technology, they learned about how the world really works, how people interact, and they learned things that shouldn't be taught from humans to humans.
01:54:53.000 So, That argument is being said that these beings are not material, they're more spiritual, but they've been able to manifest in certain ways and show certain things in the human world.
01:55:04.000 If they are spiritual, then they can travel faster than the speed of light.
01:55:06.000 But unfortunately, what that guy said is they were biologics.
01:55:09.000 And so biologics means that these things were made of...
01:55:12.000 I'm assuming carbon.
01:55:14.000 That's what it...
01:55:14.000 Because the only way for you to determine something is biological versus something that is something that's not, like, inanimate is by...
01:55:22.000 It has to have some level of...
01:55:23.000 Some ability for mitosis.
01:55:25.000 It has to have some sort of equilibrium.
01:55:27.000 There's definitions for what life is.
01:55:28.000 For him to call it a biologic means that this thing cannot be made of a spirit.
01:55:32.000 It's not a...
01:55:33.000 It's not a floating ghost.
01:55:34.000 It's a physical object.
01:55:36.000 But remember what I said.
01:55:37.000 They...
01:55:38.000 Allegedly spoke to human beings.
01:55:39.000 Sure.
01:55:40.000 How to create certain things that weren't...
01:55:41.000 You're talking about aliens telling the Egyptians how to build the pyramids, that kind of stuff.
01:55:44.000 That's in the old times.
01:55:46.000 But I'm talking about recently now.
01:55:48.000 Yeah.
01:55:48.000 They've been able to build a technology that wasn't ever done before, possibly done or seen before.
01:55:52.000 Yeah.
01:55:53.000 Which is kind of like, okay, what if they built?
01:55:55.000 I'm just being the devil's advocate here.
01:55:56.000 Sure.
01:55:56.000 What if they built that...
01:56:00.000 I don't know.
01:56:01.000 I'm just saying if they can talk to us or relate to us on some level, we can probably follow the instructions and build whatever they need built.
01:56:08.000 I don't know.
01:56:09.000 For sure.
01:56:10.000 Even if you ever read Contact by...
01:56:13.000 I forgot the guy's name who wrote Contact.
01:56:15.000 I forget it.
01:56:16.000 The astronomer.
01:56:17.000 If you even read that, the aliens don't come to us.
01:56:19.000 We actually, they send us instructions on how to build a machine so that we can communicate with them.
01:56:23.000 But they still don't come here because that cosmic speed limit, that's the problem.
01:56:28.000 Matter cannot travel faster than that.
01:56:29.000 And so what it does is it makes our neighbors so far away that we can never get to them.
01:56:34.000 That's the issue.
01:56:34.000 And then the other thing that came up was that, okay, let's say they create this alien force out of nothing, just to say, hey, here's the Messiah, here's the Antichrist, here's the end being that's going to save us all from this peril of, for example, famine,
01:56:50.000 world hunger, money crisis, debt, people dying.
01:56:55.000 He's going to be our savior.
01:56:57.000 That could be an option too.
01:56:58.000 If you were to ask me whether or not, I think it's more likely that aliens came here from another part of the galaxy or a different galaxy to visit us versus the likelihood of humans engineering their own species and then calling that aliens, I'd take the second option to be more likely, to be honest with you.
01:57:12.000 But I want to say one more thing.
01:57:14.000 You've ever seen a B-2 Spirit?
01:57:15.000 It's at a Whiteman Air Force base, a non-nostic in Missouri.
01:57:17.000 These jets are about $1.2 million, and they fly.
01:57:20.000 They're just a flying wing.
01:57:21.000 There's these massive bombers that are stealth.
01:57:23.000 Have you ever seen the stealth bomber?
01:57:24.000 So the B-2 Spirit is when it was first introduced, when it got out of Skunk Works in...
01:57:31.000 What's it called?
01:57:32.000 Lockheed Martin.
01:57:33.000 The first flights, people would see it and they thought it was a UFO. Right.
01:57:37.000 Because no one had ever seen it before.
01:57:38.000 I've got news for you.
01:57:39.000 The first time an F-35 flew, an F-22, the first time an F-16, an F-18, an F-14, and a B-2, I guarantee you the first time an F-117 flew, people thought they were alien spacecrafts.
01:57:49.000 We don't recognize it.
01:57:50.000 In 10 years, if it comes out that there's some hypersonic drone that can change direction super fast, like, oh, that's what that was.
01:57:55.000 But we don't know.
01:57:56.000 The point is, often UFOs are attributed to things that we don't know that already happen.
01:58:03.000 And the other issue is, man, the bigger and faster drones get, the less and less I put any credence to these accounts.
01:58:13.000 Show me the body.
01:58:15.000 That's it.
01:58:15.000 That's all you gotta do.
01:58:16.000 Show me the body.
01:58:16.000 You need to show me something on a display floor at CES that can fucking float with no animation or no jet rocket propulsion or anything.
01:58:24.000 Just show it to me.
01:58:25.000 That's all you gotta do.
01:58:26.000 And I just don't understand why anyone has an incentive to not do that.
01:58:29.000 That's my point.
01:58:30.000 I would find it hard to believe him if I didn't see him myself, but dude, what I saw that day was incredible.
01:58:35.000 The speed it moved was insane, bro.
01:58:36.000 I'm flying over Pakistan back in, I want to say, 09, or no, no, this has been 06, and we look to our left and we see things we couldn't explain over Iran.
01:58:45.000 So we fly near the border to Iran, and this is during, when I used to fly, we'd go in Iraq one day and then we'd fly into Pakistan the other day.
01:58:52.000 It was a KC-135 stradotanker I was flying in.
01:58:54.000 And we saw things that we didn't understand at all.
01:58:57.000 We would see green glow sometimes in an aurora that would happen where electricity would go through the plane.
01:59:01.000 These things, just because we don't understand them initially, we can't...
01:59:04.000 What do you think they are?
01:59:05.000 Do you think they're an intelligent apparatus from adversaries?
01:59:08.000 Do you think it's other aircraft from...
01:59:10.000 I think it's a visual anomaly that you see.
01:59:15.000 Or it may be not an adversary, it may be our own country.
01:59:18.000 Like I said before, the first time, if you and I were walking around in 1982, and we were near Edwards Air Force Base in California, and we saw the first time an F-117 flew over us, we'd be like, God damn, bro, aliens.
01:59:31.000 You've never seen an airplane that looked like that in history.
01:59:34.000 You would be like, what the fuck is that?
01:59:35.000 The first time you saw a Global Hawk or a Reaper...
01:59:38.000 So I think it's potentially advanced aircraft that's human-made that just hasn't been shown.
01:59:43.000 Potentially, I think it's more likely.
01:59:44.000 But you see, UFOs are all different.
01:59:46.000 Some of them are Tic Tacs.
01:59:47.000 Some of them are saucers.
01:59:48.000 There's a bunch of different things.
01:59:49.000 So there's a bunch of different...
01:59:51.000 I do believe...
01:59:52.000 My only point is, I can watch Nicki Minaj hit Cardi B in the head with a fucking shoe in 4K at 60 frames a second, but nobody can show me this alien.
02:00:00.000 Nobody can show me this UFO. Clearly, that's my only issue.
02:00:03.000 And the other thing is, there's a lot of people who have incentive at this point to get famous.
02:00:08.000 The problem is...
02:00:09.000 It's not against the law to talk about UFOs.
02:00:12.000 Even if you're deliberately not...
02:00:13.000 You can talk about ghosts, UFOs, psychics, all that kind of stuff.
02:00:17.000 No one takes you off the internet.
02:00:18.000 There's no FTC violation for saying that.
02:00:20.000 You can say it.
02:00:21.000 You make a bunch of money.
02:00:22.000 Your cost of goods sold is zero because you're starting rumors.
02:00:24.000 And people have an incentive to talk about this stuff.
02:00:26.000 There's an entire economy right there near Area 51 where I live in Vegas that's totally based on this idea that they're hiding aliens there.
02:00:34.000 They're not hiding aliens there, but that is the first place that they test flew the F-117, the SR-71.
02:00:40.000 That's where they test flew the B-2.
02:00:45.000 That's where they test flew the F-35, the F-22.
02:00:47.000 That's where we test our aircraft.
02:00:49.000 That's what we're seeing.
02:00:50.000 But anyway, I don't want to go too far because I know some people are just going to disagree with me.
02:00:53.000 Like, oh, Michael, you don't know what you're talking about.
02:00:54.000 But you still have to explain the distance equation to me because there is a cosmic speed limit.
02:01:00.000 That seems to be the biggest thing.
02:01:01.000 So you want to answer Yeah, how the hell did they get here?
02:01:04.000 They can't even get here, so everything else is disqualified.
02:01:08.000 In addition, the other thing is, there's too many people and there's too many points of failure for this cover-up.
02:01:15.000 This is not a cover-up like you've had people talking about the invasion of Iraq and it had to do with the Office of Special Operations or whatever.
02:01:23.000 That's a small group of people in that cover-up.
02:01:26.000 When we talk about this, this is 8 billion people involved in this cover-up.
02:01:29.000 Do you understand?
02:01:29.000 Dude, if there was a UFO right here, you don't think I'd pull out my fucking phone and start filming this shit?
02:01:33.000 It was right there.
02:01:34.000 I'd post that stuff in two seconds.
02:01:36.000 Just a flying saucer right out here outside of this building.
02:01:39.000 Of course, we would all show it.
02:01:41.000 Even if I didn't believe in UFOs, if I saw one, I wouldn't try to keep...
02:01:45.000 I don't have an incentive to hide it.
02:01:47.000 And so my point is, there's too many points of failure at this point, and Occam's Razor would express to me that these are not alien spacecrafts.
02:01:53.000 This is just a misidentified thing.
02:01:55.000 I promise you, I tried to record it on my phone.
02:01:56.000 I couldn't, bro.
02:01:57.000 No, for sure.
02:01:58.000 I pulled my phone.
02:02:00.000 My point is there's too many phones.
02:02:03.000 You see what I'm saying?
02:02:04.000 Somebody would have caught it at some point.
02:02:06.000 That's my point.
02:02:08.000 Valid points, man.
02:02:10.000 I see your perspective for sure.
02:02:13.000 Here's the thing.
02:02:14.000 I'm going to try to get Greer on the show.
02:02:16.000 I know he had just done an interview with Vlad and he talked about a lot of this stuff in his documentary Unacknowledged.
02:02:20.000 He's pretty much the leading UFO person in the world, at least in the United States for sure.
02:02:25.000 He's got debriefed A thousand plus people on this stuff.
02:02:29.000 He has documents all over the place.
02:02:31.000 He's pretty much the person that the Pentagon goes to when it comes to this stuff.
02:02:34.000 So, yeah.
02:02:35.000 I mean, I'm going to see if anybody in the chat knows...
02:02:39.000 I know somebody close to him.
02:02:40.000 Let me know.
02:02:40.000 We can all agree that there's something out there.
02:02:43.000 I'd like to bring him on.
02:02:43.000 I agree that some others, but here's my funny, my favorite part about all this, because I'm kind of vaguely reading the chat.
02:02:48.000 All the flat earthers and moon landing deniers who hate me, they're all sitting there like not taking me up on this.
02:02:53.000 Because if you believe the earth is flat and there's a dome over us, then you know there are no aliens.
02:02:57.000 But yet they're not taking my side.
02:02:59.000 They still believe in aliens, even though they believe the Earth is flat.
02:03:02.000 It's like Princess Diana kills herself and faked her own death at the same time.
02:03:05.000 It's like she was murdered and she faked her own death.
02:03:07.000 They're believing, they're stacking conspiracies on top of each other.
02:03:10.000 It's so funny, even the moon landing deniers won't take my side on this, even though clearly what I'm saying is based in fact.
02:03:16.000 I'll try to get him on the show.
02:03:17.000 I would love to.
02:03:18.000 It would be a civil discussion.
02:03:20.000 You can explain this.
02:03:23.000 That's a valid point.
02:03:24.000 I would love that.
02:03:24.000 I don't want to believe there are no aliens.
02:03:27.000 I want to believe there are.
02:03:28.000 My favorite book series of all time is The Expanse by James S. A. Corey.
02:03:34.000 One of the greatest book series.
02:03:35.000 The other one is The Three-Body Problem.
02:03:37.000 I love books about aliens.
02:03:39.000 That's why I got into astronomy.
02:03:41.000 But the thing is, I want to believe there's real.
02:03:43.000 It's just you have to show me proof.
02:03:44.000 I have no bias.
02:03:45.000 No one's paying me to have this opinion.
02:03:47.000 It's just I've done too much study of Newtonian physics, quantum mechanics, and relativity to believe that any way things could get here.
02:03:55.000 If you saw what that guy saw, would you believe it?
02:03:57.000 If you saw something in the air going like this...
02:04:01.000 Okay, so we're talking about Commander Favors.
02:04:04.000 Commander Favors, if I saw it, I would say something was down there that's crazy.
02:04:07.000 Fuck, man.
02:04:08.000 We gotta look and see what the Chinese have as far as drones.
02:04:10.000 That would be my first intimation.
02:04:11.000 The other guy who saw the biologics, bro, I gotta know everything.
02:04:16.000 You gotta give me samples.
02:04:17.000 I'm looking for mitosis.
02:04:18.000 I'm looking for telomeres.
02:04:19.000 I'm looking for the nucleus and the RNA and the DNA and the atom.
02:04:22.000 Do they have DNA? What happens when I put this under this...
02:04:26.000 Ultraviolet radiation.
02:04:27.000 What happens when I burn this?
02:04:28.000 I'm looking for samples.
02:04:29.000 Well, Greer said something crazy.
02:04:30.000 He said when that plane crashed and they pulled out bodies, alien bodies from there, right?
02:04:35.000 And he described them as having big eyes, no ears, a mouth, and a nose.
02:04:40.000 And they were about three to four feet tall, right?
02:04:43.000 He said that one of them was alive and they kept it alive for about four to five years and they died.
02:04:47.000 The UFO. So, I mean, I'm going to work to get him on the show for y'all, man.
02:04:52.000 I think it would be a great discussion.
02:04:54.000 He's a leading guy when it comes to this stuff.
02:04:57.000 None of this offends me.
02:04:58.000 Like, I would gladly talk to anybody about this stuff.
02:05:01.000 Yeah, because even the guys that went ahead and testified, they don't even know as much as Greer does.
02:05:01.000 Yeah.
02:05:06.000 Yeah.
02:05:06.000 So, yeah.
02:05:08.000 I'll read these from Rumble Rats, and then we're going to segue into the girls' show for y'all.
02:05:13.000 Great content, gentlemen.
02:05:14.000 Need more eyes on this topic?
02:05:15.000 Question for the panel.
02:05:16.000 One thing that you gentlemen do to support the women in your lives, my girlfriend's going through a hard time.
02:05:19.000 Thanks, as always.
02:05:21.000 Be the stoic support, my friend.
02:05:22.000 Be the rock.
02:05:24.000 And then that's from Nuclear Potato.
02:05:25.000 And then Rudit goes, my best friend brought a fleshy.
02:05:28.000 It's a toy that I guess you call a male masturbator.
02:05:31.000 And his girlfriend says, this counts as cheating.
02:05:33.000 What the fuck?
02:05:33.000 What do y'all think?
02:05:34.000 I think it's weird, but I don't know how to answer that question.
02:05:37.000 Is that cheating, though?
02:05:39.000 I don't think it's cheating, but I think it's almost worse.
02:05:41.000 Yeah, I think it's bad.
02:05:41.000 You're better off going to smash another girl.
02:05:43.000 I'd be having more respect for you than that one.
02:05:44.000 It's more embarrassing than anything.
02:05:45.000 You lose respect.
02:05:46.000 You probably lose a girl over it.
02:05:47.000 That's just weird, bro.
02:05:49.000 In fact, you'd respect him more if he'd have fucked another girl.
02:05:51.000 There you go.
02:05:52.000 Facts.
02:05:52.000 I agree.
02:05:53.000 CEO Nate goes, but he's not factoring for the possibility of interdimensional travel slash beings.
02:05:58.000 Fresh is right.
02:05:58.000 The Bible speaks of fallen angels and messengers on Earth.
02:06:00.000 Look into Dead Sea Scrolls slash book of Enoch OGs.
02:06:03.000 There you go.
02:06:04.000 Cool, yeah.
02:06:04.000 No, I am.
02:06:05.000 I'm going to get Guerrero on.
02:06:06.000 Yeah, for sure.
02:06:07.000 I will go ahead and try to get a hold of...
02:06:11.000 I know some of y'all probably know who he is, Dr.
02:06:13.000 Steven Guerrero.
02:06:13.000 I'll try to get him on and then Mike at the same time and we can have a deep discussion on this.
02:06:16.000 No, but there's multiple thoughts here.
02:06:18.000 Scientific, logical, and then I want to say religion.
02:06:21.000 Yeah.
02:06:21.000 It's kind of like those three thoughts there kind of have you in different...
02:06:24.000 Wouldn't it be a bitch to find out that the Scientologists were right?
02:06:27.000 Yeah.
02:06:29.000 I think all the books, all the religions of the book say that there's life outside of Earth.
02:06:34.000 Yeah.
02:06:35.000 On some level.
02:06:36.000 We don't know what it is, though.
02:06:37.000 I see Mike's perspective as well.
02:06:40.000 Just look up the Fermi Paradox.
02:06:41.000 100% believe that there's life.
02:06:43.000 In fact, look up panspermia, which is the concept of microbial life traveling on asteroids.
02:06:49.000 Because there's these things called tardigrades.
02:06:51.000 And they are the descendant of something.
02:06:54.000 But these tardigrades, we found them in ice.
02:06:57.000 And they were suspended for like thousands of years.
02:06:59.000 And we can reanimate them.
02:07:00.000 They're tiny.
02:07:01.000 They're microscopic.
02:07:02.000 Somebody had the idea to take them up into space.
02:07:04.000 We took them up into space.
02:07:05.000 We put these tardigrades into hard vacuum.
02:07:07.000 And we brought them back inside the space shuttle.
02:07:09.000 And they lived.
02:07:09.000 So we know that life can handle these incredibly, they're called extremophiles.
02:07:14.000 We know that life can handle these extremely harsh conditions, but that's different from intelligent life in spacecraft.
02:07:19.000 This is the idea that meteors or asteroids travel around the galaxy and spread life in different places.
02:07:24.000 And one of the ways we'd be able to find that out is if we actually landed people on Mars, dug in the soil, found microbes, and found that they had the same DNA that we did, then we would know that panspermia is real.
02:07:33.000 But panspermia is very different from alien spacecraft with people inside of it.
02:07:37.000 That's the difference.
02:07:38.000 Do you believe in God?
02:07:38.000 I do, actually.
02:07:39.000 But I believe God on faith, not on evidence.
02:07:42.000 I do not believe in a literal interpretation of the Old Testament.
02:07:45.000 So you believe and you have faith that he's real, but not aliens.
02:07:49.000 So with God, the reason why I have faith...
02:07:51.000 Well, you don't admit that he believes it based on faith, not evidence.
02:07:53.000 Not evidence.
02:07:53.000 No, no, no.
02:07:54.000 I know, but like...
02:07:55.000 The reason why is because there is an account of Pontius Pilate condemning Jesus Christ, and there's an account of people seeing him die at Calvary, and there's a count of several thousand people witnessing him after he was dead.
02:08:07.000 For me, that's a slight bit of evidence, but my choice to believe that he was resurrected is totally based in faith.
02:08:18.000 It is not based in evidence.
02:08:21.000 So if I told you, read the Bible, and Jesus is real, you just said you need evidence to confirm that?
02:08:27.000 No, no, I said I believe him.
02:08:29.000 I choose to believe that Jesus died on the cross because of faith.
02:08:33.000 It doesn't countervene my belief in gravity.
02:08:35.000 It doesn't countervene my belief in the speed of light.
02:08:37.000 But you said you need evidence, though.
02:08:38.000 No, I need evidence as far as aliens are concerned.
02:08:40.000 Yeah, for sure.
02:08:41.000 So you need evidence.
02:08:42.000 For aliens, but not...
02:08:43.000 But I'm also not telling you that physics isn't real because I believe in God.
02:08:47.000 Okay.
02:08:47.000 That's the difference.
02:08:48.000 Do you see what I'm saying?
02:08:48.000 I'm not prescribing to you that physics.
02:08:49.000 I'm not sitting here telling...
02:08:51.000 Like, you have a certain person who comes on the show frequently and talks about heredity between black people and white people, but doesn't believe in natural selection.
02:08:56.000 I believe in natural selection, even though I believe in God.
02:08:59.000 Okay.
02:08:59.000 Yep.
02:08:59.000 That's fair.
02:09:00.000 Cool.
02:09:00.000 All right.
02:09:01.000 Well, I hope you guys enjoyed that one.
02:09:02.000 That was a very high-acute conversation.
02:09:03.000 We covered a bunch of things.
02:09:04.000 We covered...
02:09:06.000 The Trump indictments, UFOs, quantum physics, free speech, a bunch of different things, man.
02:09:13.000 The January 6th riots.
02:09:15.000 Guys, we're going to be back here with some girls.
02:09:16.000 I think we'll probably run it at 9.30, guys.
02:09:19.000 So stay tuned.
02:09:20.000 We'll be right back.
02:09:21.000 Peace.
02:09:22.000 Peace.
02:09:23.000 I ran, I ran so far away I just ran, I ran all night and day