In this episode of the Freshman Podcast, we are joined by a very special guest, Gabby! We talk about our experience at Our Basil, our plans for Amfest this year, and much more.
00:29:11.000Uh, me and Andrew Wilson are gonna go against um, Destiny and Adam Mockler uh, very big um and prominent uh left-wing, uh progressive political commentators.
00:29:51.000Uh w stream Chris, Take Away yeah, go ahead, Chris.
00:29:54.000Yeah, there's monday girls on the panel for a panel tonight.
00:29:59.000So shout out to the team, shout out to uh Mo and Bills and uh yeah, we're here on a monday and I give you credit bro, doing this after our Basil is pretty impressive.
00:30:07.000Yeah yeah no hey, shout out to the team man.
00:30:10.000For those of you that don't know, our Basil is a huge um event that comes to Miami once a year at the end of the year, in december.
00:30:16.000The city literally like triples in population.
00:30:17.000Everyone comes here for like to look at the art expos and the parties and everything else like that.
00:30:21.000Let me tell you brother uh, that's why academics was here.
00:30:23.000Factory TOWN had sections at their festival.
00:30:27.000Damn, one section, which is a little like two couches and a chair, is 70k bro.
00:30:34.000They had hold on 20 sections in one station.
00:45:40.000I'm still fucking though yeah but like I'm outside of school and shit yeah but there's other I know when it comes to school especially, dating isn't really like a thing you should be doing.
00:52:16.000Well hold on first of all I'm trying to be an uncle This is the issue right?
00:52:21.000They say that in the beginning I don't know what's your religion are you what do you I'm Catholic he was seeing an Asian girl for a while Remember the story?
00:52:55.000You had other women, of course, but you were seeing her.
00:52:57.000And then um, you want to tell the rest of the story.
00:53:00.000You want me to tell it, you tell it, okay.
00:53:02.000Uh, she called him and said that she was pregnant right or, in her case, after my pregnant, after I told her that, to go home, like I don't want you, like here with me.
00:53:13.000Like yeah, go go find your man somewhere.
01:19:00.000If I'm the next guy I'm going to be with, I just want to be like chill, like not stressed, like not having that anxiety in my head, you know?
01:19:09.000would you consider yourself like a picky person um sort of because we pulled the calculator because i'm a high value woman so i expect sorry uh Something in my throat.
01:21:11.000All right, real quick, just so I can figure this out because I really want to nail this down.
01:21:15.000We have a calculator here that, you know, basically pulls data from all the different websites or, well, sorry, surveys all across America.
01:21:23.000And this is the most accurate representation of men in the United States.
01:21:26.000So let's go ahead and kind of see where your standards lie.
01:21:30.000What is the minimum and maximum age for a guy that you want?
01:23:01.000Not only that, not only that, but if they're successful and like treat you good, you know, good looking, and like okay, so a million a year, yeah, um, does that exceed what you earn?
01:23:14.000Um, no, okay, so you make more than a million yourself, so you need a guy to, I guess, be I'm assuming that's somewhat in the realm of what you do then, yeah.
01:23:25.000But honestly, like, I'm just saying this just for this thing, but I don't really care.
01:23:31.000As long as you're not, like, living with your parents and like you pay your own bills, you have your own car, like you could take care of dates and everything.
01:23:38.000Like, yes, yeah, but realistically speaking, okay, you want him, okay, a million, and then can he be married or obese?
01:23:45.000Oh, definitely not exclude both of those.
01:24:35.000Now, uh, and it's interesting because, like, the things that you mentioned that make you like a high-value woman, I noticed they're kind of like traits that like would actually make a man a higher status man, like money, income, your ability to provide for yourself, etc.
01:24:57.000Like, the guy that meets those requirements for you?
01:25:00.000You know, you know, what I have to say to this is that my first ex when I was 18 did the same thing for me to prove that, you know, I could never like be with anyone better than him.
01:25:10.000And it's funny because I actually met a guy who is better than that.
01:27:38.000Like, that's not something for me to determine.
01:27:41.000But I think an important characteristic would be to just having the drive to be better every day and not being a bum and a loser and like actually growing as a person mentally, physically, all those types of things financially.
01:27:54.000So I think just having drive makes you, I don't know.
01:28:08.000Having morals and yeah, just having morals and taking care of yourself and also like self-love and not being like men like focused in a way.
01:28:36.000Makes you a high-value woman, or what do you think constitutes a high-value woman?
01:28:38.000Ultimately, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, and so is value.
01:28:43.000One man's trash is another man's treasure.
01:28:46.000So, but for me personally, I would say a lot of the things that the other lady said here, like just being respectful, being independent, that's something I would add.
01:29:01.000So, your ability to provide for yourself, kind of like her being a hard worker.
01:29:04.000Well, some men may not find that as, you know, value, adding to value, but it's valuable to me.
01:29:12.000And then being empathetic, I think that's a major part, like having the ability to see past yourself and care for others.
01:29:21.000And then you want to finish what you were saying from before.
01:29:24.000You said you think someone else gauges that or something like that?
01:29:26.000So I, sorry, I know I'm like, my voice is really annoying right now.
01:29:29.000So I believe that if you have to tell people, oh, I'm a good person, and it's like, if you're a good person, you don't really have to tell people.
01:29:35.000So I feel like I shouldn't speak and be like, oh, I'm so great.
01:30:14.000Then we already kind of went over yours.
01:30:17.000You know, this is an interesting topic because I've talked with a couple of women with this on, you know, being a high-value woman.
01:30:23.000Here's my opinion, and I'll kind of put it out there and you guys can engage with it.
01:30:26.000I don't think there's a such thing as a high-value woman by herself.
01:30:30.000And what I mean by this is I think a woman's primary agency and value is based off of the caliber of man that she can attract to keep her and marry her.
01:30:39.000I think all women have value to a degree because you guys are the more vulnerable sex and you can have children.
01:30:45.000And, you know, obviously your beauty puts you in certain rooms just off of just existing.
01:30:50.000So I think all women have value, but very few are actually high value women because to be a high value woman, I think you need to be able to walk down a high value guy.
01:30:59.000Because I think women have an inherent value.
01:31:01.000So since all of you have inherent value from like being a female in itself, to be high value is not really a thing unless you get taken off the market.
01:31:10.000And the other reason why I say that is because I think you can't ascertain your own value.
01:31:15.000So like a woman says I'm a high value woman, but she doesn't have a man taking her seriously.
01:31:19.000I look at that as like a homeless guy saying I'm a millionaire.
01:31:23.000Like I could call myself a millionaire all day, but I'm homeless.
01:31:25.000So I don't have any tangible assets to back up what I'm saying.
01:31:28.000When a woman says I'm a high value woman, but she doesn't have a man, that's like the equivalent to like a homeless dude saying he's a millionaire.
01:31:58.000I think that's what makes a woman high value.
01:32:00.000Like if a woman uses male metrics to determine her value, it doesn't really count.
01:32:06.000I don't know if you guys agree with that, disagree, but I think a woman's value is directly attributed to the caliber of man that she can attract and retain.
01:32:13.000Not even just date, but like get a last name from.
01:33:31.000Like, when you turn 18 as a female, you basically get like a million dollar, you know, check handed to you.
01:33:37.000And if you don't do anything in that 10 to 15 years and you squander it and you end up in your 30 single, I think you're the biggest fucking loser of them all because it's not that hard for women to attract men.
01:33:48.000And with a little bit more work, you can retain the guy and get a ring.
01:33:51.000So, and I don't think we tell enough women this because we don't like to tell women they're losers because it's like taboo to criticize females and it's taboo to tell them to like focus on a family.
01:34:02.000But I truly do think that if you're 30 years old as a woman, I don't care how much money you make, how much status you got, how much clout you got, if you don't have a man that you respect that's with you in a serious relationship, I think you're a failure as a female.
01:34:25.000Speaking from someone who was engaged at the age of 16, I think that for a lot of women, because they're still young, saying that you get a million-dollar check at 18 when your brain is not fully developed at that time to make lifelong decisions, in my opinion.
01:34:44.000I know mine wasn't, but you know, it's I think that could be a little harsh.
01:34:51.000But I do understand the point that like during that time, during your 20s and things like that, that would likely be the time to, you know, okay, would you consider someone an adult by 18?
01:35:04.000Well, yeah, I guess, but like legally, but you know, mentally making lifelong decisions, I think that's the time where you should figure yourself out and get to know who you are.
01:35:17.000So should we just like retract women's ability to get married or get in relationships when they turn 18?
01:35:22.000No, because some women are in a different place in life.
01:35:25.000And for me, because like the way that I grew up, that was the main goal to be educated and get married and have children and you know, everything's so fast.
01:35:38.000But hindsight, I would look back at myself and say, hey, you could have taken your time a little bit more to get you get to know myself.
01:36:11.000Yeah, I mean, I think that's like interesting because you're saying, hey, 18, you might not necessarily know everything, but like, you know, people have been getting married young for a very long time.
01:36:30.000I think that we live in a society that like brainwashes women is what I think.
01:36:35.000Like, I think we live in a society where we tell women to like not have a family, not focus on getting a guy, like just have fun, pursue a career, whatever.
01:36:41.000And I think that's like very detrimental.
01:37:02.000I think, and then obviously this is like a byproduct of feminism, but I think for a woman, her value is derived by the caliber guy that she's with.
01:37:09.000I don't think a female can just self-declare and say she's high value because I look at it like the market dictates your value, right?
01:37:33.000So I've always found it interesting how women kind of do things backwards where they focus on something that's not really going to give them long-term fulfillment, like a career and income, right?
01:37:44.000And then they hit 30 and then they'll got kids and they're like, oh, this sucks.
01:38:31.000Like a guy that's probably not going to make nearly as close as much money as you and might not be the most attractive in the whole sphere of things.
01:38:39.000Because the other thing too, also that is going to turn a lot of guys off is like you're also like a female influencer.
01:38:44.000And I don't think a lot of men like their girl being on the internet like that.
01:38:53.000So like, you know, it's, I don't want to sound like an asshole, but like based on like your background, it's like you have like a 400 credit score and you're going to the bank trying to get a million dollar loan.
01:39:14.000So like why would a guy who makes a million dollars a year pick you over a girl that's like not on the internet, that isn't a boss babe, that isn't maybe that's a bit more submissive.
01:39:26.000Well, I am very submissive and I respect my partner.
01:39:30.000And also I feel like once I hire earning women typically are not submissive because you had to become you had to become a hard well you earn over a million dollars a year, right?
01:41:05.000Because, like, what's to say you meet a guy that makes that kind of money, that checks all these boxes off, but then you turn them off because, oh, I got to go to work.
01:41:13.000Or, oh, hey, I'm a, you know, I'm an influencer.
01:41:20.000I mean, that's fine that you work from home, but my point is, is that you're just looking at the finish line, but you're not looking at what it takes to get to the finish line for what you specifically want.
01:41:32.000And I've noticed that women kind of do that all the time.
01:41:34.000You guys like just end at the finish line.
01:42:40.000I think the bottom line here is, and that's why I made sure to ask you what metric of men, like what percentage of men do you think meet these requirements?
01:43:46.000And do they meet your requirements, your metrics?
01:43:48.000I don't know if I'm going to marry them.
01:43:49.000And yeah, like to me, like if like we vibe and I like our chemistry and like he treats me good and I'm feeling like he's going to be loyal and I want to continue, then I will continue and like we'll keep going with it until here's the issue.
01:44:21.000I think because as women, we can have high, high standards.
01:44:26.000And maybe that's because a lot of us, we grew up, you know, with I'm the little princess type of mentality.
01:44:34.000And when you get older and it's time to think about like who you're going to partner with, I think it's important that we think of like the general population because there is the 1% type of man.
01:44:50.000And the issue is, do you want to accept the terms of a relationship with that 1% man?
01:44:58.000Or are you going to find what you're looking for in your standards with the general man or average?
01:45:33.000So it's like, you know, I tell girls, like, bro, like, if you have high standards, just accept the fact that you're going to, oh, he's always going to have a side girl and you just need to make peace with that.
01:45:41.000Or get with a more average guy, five foot eight, 40K per year.
01:47:39.000Just because you get access to the bank doesn't mean you can get the loan.
01:47:41.000And I think that's the issue with women is that they get access to these caliber of men, whether it's through a social situation or a party or through social media or, you know, their friend dated an NBA player, so they think I can too.
01:47:54.000All of this, I think the internet's been very bad to you guys because now that you have access to these types of individuals, it's increased your stock in your mind.
01:48:02.000But realistically speaking, are these guys going to commit to you?
01:48:06.000Like, are they, realistically speaking?
01:48:13.000Like, you know, that's just like the craziness of like so many modern women is like they get attention from a celebrity and they're like, oh, my stock is up now, motherfucker.
01:49:39.000So it's like, I feel like someone were to cheat, a man would get away with it rather than a woman because of the stereotypical thing that we do face.
01:49:47.000I would say the woman, it's more detrimental if the woman cheats.
01:49:52.000Mainly because it appears that the relationship takes a harder hit because the man may not be as forgiving as the woman would if the shoe was on the other foot.
01:50:05.000Should he be as forgiving then, in your opinion?
01:50:30.000I feel like it's definitely worse if the woman cheats because she's definitely cheating for different reasons than the guy is because girls think more emotionally than men do.
01:50:39.000So, if she's cheating, then he's probably not giving her enough love or attention.
01:50:44.000If he's cheating, it's probably just because he wants to nut and go.
01:51:34.000I think it's worse if, well, it's more meaningful if the woman sees, I guess, because I feel like as a woman, we're more, yeah, like someone, one of y'all said, we're more emotional.
01:58:33.000And I'm doing this for a very specific effect here, right?
01:58:37.000So if we're in a confrontation, right, and we get attacked, we would prefer to fight that fight alone and get our asses whooped than be with a woman that's promiscuous.
01:58:49.000So in other words, this perfectly embodies what I've been trying to tell you guys.
01:58:53.000Women prefer and need protection and provisioning versus men prefer monogamy.
01:59:32.000So if you're at a club or you're in some situation and some fucking guy cold cocks you and knocks you out or punches the fuck out of you and your guy sits there cowering, you could sit here in 2020 hindsight and tell me, I'm not going to care because he doesn't cheat on me.
01:59:44.000But it's going to be a really fucking different thing when you look at him and he's fucking not doing anything.
01:59:48.000You're going to be like, damn, this dude's a fucking bitch.
02:00:53.000So isn't it interesting that a gay man that's your friend that owes you zero fucking protection because you guys are not in a relationship, you felt some type of way about that?
02:01:06.000Well, because he was getting beat up and I, because he was getting beat up bad and I didn't know what to do, so I pulled said person off of him and then he started hitting me and he just stood there and just stood there.
02:01:54.000That guy's not even your fucking partner.
02:01:57.000Now, if that guy was your man who's fucking you and supposed to be your protective provider and you see him looking there not doing anything, you're going to be 10 times mad.
02:02:07.000You don't even like the gay guy being a bitch, let alone your man.
02:02:39.000If you had never had it before and you weren't brought up with it, how did you naturally get this angry inclination that he didn't step in?
02:02:47.000It's just more of I've been around a lot of individuals and men and a lot of people, and you kind of pick up and read vibes and you kind of just collect it all in the back in your brain and then like rekindling like, oh, this reminds me of this person and that characteristic trait because I took psychology as a part of nursing.
02:04:00.000So despite the fact that you're saying, I never had male influence to protect me, how did your body and your mind still say, what the fuck is this guy doing?
02:04:09.000Because women have a natural self-defense mechanism where if a man that they're with isn't protecting them, he gets put in the useless category because that's what a man's job is supposed to be.
02:04:22.000So, you know, and I think this is why it's so important.
02:04:25.000Like, this is why I'm such a big critic of like feminism and all these like social constructs.
02:04:31.000At the end of the day, we're always going to go to our hindbrain.
02:04:33.000In that emergency situation where you're getting your ass kicked, your body said, what the fuck is this dude over here doing and not defending you, even though you know deep down he's gay.
02:04:58.000Because men are held to a different standard, whether you subconsciously know it or not, because we're looked at as protectors and providers.
02:05:04.000So knowing all this, like this, you know, hindbrain methodology, whatever, I tell girls, if you're with a guy that's good to you, that will protect you and fight for you, it's probably retarded to leave him for cheating on you.
02:05:39.000Do you guys understand here like the difference when it comes to because I think this whole concept of like men and women are equal and we're going to hold each other the same standards, it sounds good on paper, but it's not real.
02:12:40.000And that's why I have you ever thought maybe it's because like you exhibited some personality traits that were unfavorable.
02:12:49.000No, I think that like I'm pretty like, even when I was like my best too, and I would actually give my all, like it's really not you, it's them, like that's their own issue, like you can really be like literally the best bitch they had and they could still want someone else.
02:13:44.000I mean, I guess in both ways wait, I mean like you sound like you have like nothing going on up there because, like you said earlier, you said, oh yeah, I want to get to know me.
02:13:54.000For me, and we're trying to get to know you, you're like I don't know it's, it's whatever.
02:15:01.000Like some men just have no personality.
02:15:03.000But what were you yapping about then when you were talking with these guys?
02:15:06.000Like life cars, anime give me like the top thing that interests you that you were yapping about sports.
02:15:12.000Let's talk about cars a lot, that's what.
02:15:15.000Okay, if I see something I don't like i'm gonna point it out because I believe in communication and some people are just like avoidance, so you're nagging uh, guys.
02:15:26.000But like i'm just really trying to communicate, so nagging yeah, you're nagging.
02:15:38.000The reason why i'm asking all these questions right, is because, like you're not an ugly girl and you're in Providence, which is a relatively like less competitive city right, when what I mean by that is like you're not, it's not like you're in Miami, you're competing as models.
02:16:32.000I'm talking about the men that you actually did, because obviously there were men that you expressed interest in that you decided to entertain yeah, and then when you did entertain them, they were only being lustful and not wanting to get to know you, by your own admission yeah yeah, what i'm trying to figure out is, why did they not want to get to know you better?
02:16:48.000I, you're claiming it's because of lust, but have you ever thought of maybe your personality just sucks?
02:16:55.000Or actually, like I don't do a lot of talking stages, so like, if i'm no first I was a yapper, now okay, if i'm talking to someone like we're gonna end up in a relationship, that's what i'm saying, but what?
02:17:10.000I don't, what the yeah, but my question is like, okay fair, You're gonna end up in a relationship.
02:22:41.000How does that change that women are more narrow in their no, I'm just saying like there are women out there that will accept fair minimum, like not like good quality men.
02:22:59.000I mean, though there are women that will settle as you claim, I would argue most women have a completely whacked out sense of where they think they stand.
02:23:08.000In other words, if I ask a girl, rate yourself one of 10, right?
02:23:12.000So many girls will tell me 11 or 10 or I'm a 20 out of 10.
02:23:16.000But if I ask guys, they'll be more honest about where they stand.
02:23:19.000Like women chronically overvalue their sexual market value while men chronically understate their sexual market value.
02:24:08.000If you want a guy that makes like a million dollars a year, wouldn't it be fair to say that you kind of have to be desperate because you're going to have to go on his, you don't think so?
02:24:14.000And also, like I said, like that million dollars.
02:24:16.000So you're just going to get him just nonchalantly, like, just off of being cool and playing.
02:24:20.000Just, you know, going out there, being open-minded to it, first of all, going out into different dating spaces, not only online, but like just getting yourself out there, talking to people, being social.
02:24:30.000Like, I think that it will happen naturally, just like strength theory.
02:24:34.000If two people are meant to be together, they're going to be together.
02:25:08.000Would be fair to say everything that you do is a deliberate attempt to make your body look better when you hit the stage in three or four months, correct?
02:25:15.000Sure, if it's like a bodybuilding contest, yeah, yeah, or just trying to look good when you a swimsuit contest, yeah, right?
02:25:20.000Everything that you do in that three months leading up to it is a deliberate behavior in action to get a desired effect down the road, right?
02:25:26.000Yeah, would it be fair to say that that desired effect in that body that you're trying to get is rare and hard to get?
02:25:32.000Um, yeah, for sure, especially like if you're going for like a really muscular look or something like that, same thing with that.
02:26:11.000But what I have to say to that is that with love and dating, it's not always about like physical, it is 100% physical attraction, but it's also about how your personalities are compatible with each other because you're going to be living with each other.
02:26:25.000Yeah, like, well, I'm using an analogy.
02:26:28.000So if you know that you have, you need to achieve a certain physique that's a one percentile physique that's difficult to attain that most people can't do, you have to take every single day and work towards that physique by going to the gym, eating correctly, drink enough water, et cetera.
02:26:43.000So my question is: if you want a 1% guy, wouldn't it be behoove you to take deliberate actions to find this guy and be able to keep him long-term if he's difficult to find?
02:26:54.000Yeah, of course, but you don't have to be competitive with other women.
02:26:57.000Like you could still be friends with other women.
02:26:59.000Unless they're women who are, like she said, I remember she said that if a woman is like nasty in her attitude and she's just not a good woman, I just want to be around her.
02:27:08.000So let's apply your nonchalant, you know, I don't chase, I attract mindset, right?
02:27:14.000With the bodybuilding, for example, for this thing.
02:27:17.000Let's say you just said, you know what?
02:27:40.000The problem is that women think that they can be ordinary but get extraordinary results.
02:27:44.000And it's comical to me because that doesn't work for anything in life.
02:27:48.000I only used a fitness example to show the lunacy of female thought process where they think, I want a top 1% guy.
02:27:55.000In your case, less than that, a million dollars a year.
02:27:57.000We're talking about a very small sliver of men, right?
02:28:01.000So if you want to attract this caliber of guy and he's hard to find, wouldn't it make sense that you need to do everything in your power to find this guy versus I don't chase, I attract?
02:28:11.000I wouldn't have to do everything in my power.
02:28:13.000I feel like I would have to focus on myself and my body and how I feel and being healthy and, you know, just being having my own business because no matter what, even if I do get married and have kids, if it doesn't work out, I need to be able to be independent.
02:28:34.000You know, I just like, it just, it really baffles me, man.
02:28:37.000How, you know, and this is not just for you.
02:28:41.000I'm not just saying this to like pick on you, but it really baffles me how like women have these high standards, but you guys are not willing to put in any of the fucking work to get these guys.
02:29:28.000Like, can you guys see how this is fucking ridiculous?
02:29:31.000Like, how women think I'm just going to keep doing what I've done and I'm going to get something that I've never got before.
02:29:36.000And not only have I never got this before, it's really hard and everyone else is chasing it, but I'm not going to change who I am because I don't chase, I attract.
02:30:13.000Like, because you know the analogy is wild because when I flip it on you guys and I say, all right, I'm going to be at home eating Cheetos and being a loser.
02:30:50.000I'm not shitting on y'all because I actually do think that it's not even your guys's fault.
02:30:54.000I think it's the fault of mainstream media, feminism, and just like how we push this constant, you don't need a man narrative and that you can, you deserve the best no matter how you behave.
02:31:05.000And this is all a product of feminism.
02:31:08.000But I do think that it's like very important that we tell women, like, dude, if you want a top-tier guy, you're going to have to put in work.
02:31:14.000Like, you can't just be pretty and think you're going to land this guy.
02:31:16.000Like, it's going to be very difficult, right?
02:32:16.000Yeah, why do you think women not voting is bad?
02:32:19.000Well, for women that if they gave all of their women that give their, like if they, if their rights were taken away, then it's leaving it to the man to make rules that apply for them and make laws that affects women directly.
02:32:42.000But, you know, without having to say in that, that's why I say it's not nice.
02:32:54.000Typically, women frame their political ideologies almost always framed around reproductive rights and the right to, you know, abort babies and stuff like that.
02:33:29.000Personally, I guess the way that I was raised were like I was just raised to value life, even down to, you know, I'm going to say the insect, but, you know, if you could let the insect live, you let the insect live.
02:40:45.000Well, only because like earlier I had mentioned that like the men, when y'all get mad when women cheat because it's more of like an ego thing.
02:40:52.000Like it makes y'all look slash feel bad, whatever you want to look at it.
02:40:55.000So it's like, and you also use us and our beauty to like show off to your peers and whatever the case may be.
02:41:12.000Who else believes that woman is the prize?
02:41:14.000I'm going to say in general, well, not in general, but in some cases, the woman would be the prize if she is a high-value woman.
02:41:24.000If it's just the average woman that are using my definition when she's with a higher status guy, or are we saying like the self-imposed high-value woman?
02:41:32.000No, I'm saying like in sense of, like, for instance, the example you gave of the finger going into the soda can type of thing for a man, that is, that wants a woman to himself and he is a woman that's willing to give herself exclusively to him and not only in a sexual way, but so her value is derived from the guy that she's with.
02:41:54.000Yeah, I would agree with that, but i'm just saying that wouldn't that debunk your premise then?
02:41:58.000No, I guess it depends on what you're saying as far as prize because like, if you're meaning like in the sense of the relationship who, like?
02:42:06.000I don't know I don't like the word prize really, because it it sounds like prize pony, but like, the woman is a valuable, a valuable thing for the man, let's say this, who's the bigger beneficiary of said relationship?
02:42:21.000The woman okay, so wouldn't that imply that the man is the prize?
02:42:25.000Then I yeah, if the woman is benefiting more than he's benefiting from her, who's adding more value and therefore the prize.
02:42:31.000Yeah, I could see it that way, because there's a lot of women after that man too.
02:42:41.000So no, it's only one way, based on what I can see.
02:42:46.000Because you said the woman is the prize and then your entire argument proves they're not.
02:42:50.000No, in that sense because like, for instance, if a woman is with a man, that's a high value according to your standards, but she gives herself to other men, then that's not really like a prize for the woman, like the woman is not really the prize in that sense for the man from the man's perspective.
02:43:09.000But yeah, but he wouldn't commit to her if she was giving herself to other guys.
02:43:16.000Most guys that are higher status and attractive are not going to be okay if they throw fucking other dudes, you know, I mean, there's a couple cucks here and there, of course yeah, but the majority of men that are like attractive and have their shit together are not gonna want a woman.
02:43:31.000Sorry, that's why telling you my hair was nylon, bitch crazy, because I don't play about my hair, that's for sure.
02:43:39.000All right, but I told you for like sorry bro, I ain't even gonna look anyway, i'm sorry, i'm younger, i'm trying, i'm a little bit of a crash out, i'm really trying to be.
02:43:49.000Yeah, but I mean, but you're ruining quality.
02:43:51.000I'm sorry, i'm sorry you're in quiet show.
02:43:54.000Thank you um yeah, so yeah look, I just like, if you're gonna say high value woman, that implies she's with a higher status guy, and I think that in itself defeats the argument that the woman is the prize, because if, if a woman is the prize, that implies she's rarer than her man, and I don't.
02:44:13.000I I think beauty is very common Yes, but exclusivity.
02:44:17.000Like, it's that as common as you think.
02:45:55.000I'm saying like, if you bring up, if you, if you know, if you don't think you can bring a child in this world and take care of it, like financial reasons, like, et cetera.
02:46:03.000I think it's unfair, especially when like there's all those kids that need to be adopted.
02:48:56.000Well, you talk a bit slower, but I mean, that's already fast.
02:49:01.000I think the reason he's calling you retards is because, like, when you're kind of talking about your experiences before with like men and you know, why?
02:49:08.000I just couldn't articulate my words correctly.
02:54:29.000Quicksoph says, one of these days, a girl on the panel is going to tell the truth, and Fred's going to end up looking like this after saying, yeah, and I'm white.
02:56:02.000And the reason why I'm a virgin is because I want the guy to marry me and who I'm going to date to feel like, you know, not just lustful, but actual love and be like, yeah, we're going to have kids together.
02:56:12.000We're going to be partnership together and that way he'll feel like you know wait.
02:56:16.000I just realized that's why your guy cheated on you.
03:00:26.000And even the girls that do are gonna do it at a mediocre level.
03:00:29.000Like, the reason why so many women aren't interesting is because they don't have to be.
03:00:32.000Well, I mean, it's true, but you know, your world shouldn't revolve around a man and like finding a man.
03:00:38.000Like, obviously, you should want to and be open-minded to it.
03:00:41.000I think your life should revolve around that.
03:00:43.000No, you should also like read books, like, do what you're interested, have hobbies, you know, like do what you love and makes you fulfilled in your life too.
03:00:50.000Because otherwise, yeah, like you're saying, a man wouldn't, a man wouldn't be attracted to you if you don't have hobbies and other things that you like to do.
03:00:57.000It's not that it's a requirement, but it's just that most women tend to be very bland and dull, and that's okay because men and women are different.
03:01:03.000Like, I don't think men should be spending a lot of time with women anyway.