In this episode of the Fresh Hay Podcast After Hours Edition, we are joined by Luke Belmar and some lovely ladies to talk about money, the stock market, dating, and much more. We hope you enjoy, sit down, and have a nice drink.
00:33:44.000Well, I turned 28 this year, so I thought I'd just put it together like that.
00:33:49.000I'm gonna be honest, because like I have this friend, like going back to school, you realize there's a lot of young niggas, and they like, oh, well, you like.
00:33:57.000All right, I'll just say, so you haven't turned 28 yet then.
00:59:26.000If you have a female mother figure, she's going to have male tendencies because she has to make up for a father that doesn't exist.
00:59:33.000So there is chaos, and that doesn't teach women to one, respect themselves, two, how to interact with men, three, how to protect their virginity or their bodies or their temples because that's all real.
00:59:45.000So that's why, because you haven't been given example, because most of your kids, you just go out and do whatever, and you just make the same consequences, same mistakes.
00:59:56.000That's why this lovely lady says, I want to get married, but I just don't, I fear getting married because I'm going to get married to something that is the only reference point that I have, which is what?
01:00:07.000So the thing is, I hear complaining, but you guys are doing the exact same thing and have the same life patterns and the same sexual decision-making process that your parents did.
01:00:19.000And that's going to lead to the same result and the same cascading effect.
01:00:23.000So it's your responsibility to not do the same thing so that you don't have the same consequences.
01:00:29.000You want to find a good man, become a good woman.
01:03:01.000Okay, question for the ladies from Chase the Man says, When a man takes you out on a first dinner date, will you either give him a BJ or have sex with him or give him nothing?
01:04:57.000Well, you're in a relationship, but I'm assuming you weren't a one.
01:05:00.000Well, honestly, I kind of just agree with Bri and I would add on to that as like, I don't think I, I know I would not give somebody a blowjob on like a first date because we're trying to see if there's something that maybe connects that we want to continue on with this and grow, you know?
01:05:22.000So I don't feel like you need to throw yourself at somebody in that way on a first date.
01:05:30.000And I feel like it represents you in a way where like, oh, she did that that one time.
01:06:43.000Sex is only good if you really love sexuality.
01:06:45.000I feel like once you do stuff like that, you set a certain expectation for people, and they feel like you have to fulfill it every time, too, as well.
01:07:07.000If you have sex with somebody on the first date, you're going to have sex with them on every other date.
01:07:11.000So for the rest of the night, you guys are already expecting that always okay.
01:07:15.000Because if they expect you to give it up after just having dinner, it just means that you're easy and they don't respect you and they think you're a whore.
01:07:36.000Because this clip comes from, he's asking this because there was a clip where a guy and a guy and a girl were on a date and basically the guy said, all right, I'll pay this bill, but am I going to yours?
01:10:40.000Yeah, because I know that they were in the process of like rebranding because it was hard for them to keep up with tilted kill twin peaks and these other like, you know, theme tech restaurants.
01:11:54.000Because the thing about Hooters, like their biggest thing is, like, they've kind of kept it classic, but at the same time, it's like, I guess, I don't know.
01:16:36.000because you couldn't watch a documentary in four minutes don't play with me documentaries are like an hour documentaries are like an hour That's why it wasn't four minutes.
01:18:02.000They had to keep selling, but just know they had to keep selling their shares throughout the years because they was going through multiple different losses.
01:20:07.000You see, of course, you respect the baby girl because that's the standard of a man.
01:20:11.000A man puts a woman in her place and he does it correctly.
01:20:14.000So if you want a husband, you have to, one, remove your body count, two, respect your body, not be selling it to old man, old men on hooters.
01:20:25.000You could literally go wait tables at a high-end restaurant and make maybe you make 70% of the money, but at least you keep your integrity.
01:20:33.000You know, like it's, it makes a lot of sense.
01:21:11.000Okay, so because of the fact that, unfortunately, I've met a lot of women who have felt the need to be like a, you know, in that position, like Hooters, Twin Peaks, as much as strippers.
01:21:23.000Like, the thing is that they do that because, like, when I've asked them, they've told me it's because they feel like it's the only thing that would make them like make money.
01:21:35.000Like, the man that they were depending on was not the only, so the only thing is to prostitute themselves.
01:22:43.000At the same time, it's like there are women who go through the shit where they feel like, I mean, I like fortunately, thank God, I didn't feel like I needed to, you know, go turn and revert back because I used to be a hostess.
01:28:22.000I thought it would have been the biggest weight for me to have to support myself because obviously as a foster, I kind of figured, you know what?
01:29:05.000But it's so you would rather work and be single.
01:29:09.000Because that's kind of what you gave up.
01:29:10.000You're like, all right, I'd rather work and be single than deal with this where I have a provider, but I'm taking care of a kid that isn't mine.
01:29:17.000Which you could have got a kid with him, maybe.
01:29:21.000So the whole concept of that is that it's not that I'd rather work and be single.
01:29:25.000I actually, while I was with him, I was forming a business and I was also kind of sort of like I, the money that I did save up, I managed to kind of sort of work towards myself and kind of sort of develop the app that I wanted to.
01:29:40.000Obviously, it's not 100%, but it is about 75%.
01:29:42.000Yeah, but you do realize that like by your actions, like literally, it's you'd rather work and be single than I'd rather have support for myself as opposed to a man telling me that he made me work and be single.
01:32:50.000It's just interesting because women want a provider, then they get one, and they kind of like don't want to deal with what comes with being like with a provider.
01:34:32.000Whenever the woman is doing what a man, for example, having a guy, sorry, if a girl's dating a guy with a kid, she wants to make sure that she's being taken care of.
01:34:41.000One, but two, she still wants more from that situation, even though she's already committed to it.
01:34:47.000If a guy doesn't go with it with a kid, he has to pay for everything and do more.
01:41:06.000And I think feminism has just like fucked everything up because like before it was like kind of known, like, all right, your job is to be at home.
01:41:14.000The man comes home when he comes home.
01:41:16.000And it's today's day and age with the way the economy is.
01:41:18.000Like men have to make work more to make enough money to be able to take care of a family, right?
01:41:24.000So I think a lot of women would love to be able to sit home and take care of a kid, even if the kid isn't theirs and have the option to have another kid.
01:41:32.000But I guess that just wasn't enough for you that a Lord.
01:42:39.000In the formative teenagers, when they're more susceptible to being peer pressure, experiment with drugs, play hooky, do all the dumb shit that'll fuck their life up.
01:42:53.000But realistically speaking, most men can't provide for a woman.
01:42:57.000Like, hypothetically, realistically speaking, from this point forward, it's going to probably be hard for you to find a provider that's going to take care of you and let you be able to stay at home.
01:43:05.000Most men don't want to do that, and it's hard to find that.
01:43:07.000So this is what I mean when I say women are perpetually like he's not wrong, though.
01:44:12.000By your own admission, you just said that women are becoming more masculine and you said that women are becoming more like men because we have a sassy Epidemic of men, yeah, they don't want to date a guy.
01:44:23.000Can I women are behaving more than that?
01:45:03.000Women have way more choice than men do.
01:45:05.000So like since women have choice, right, and men don't, this is why women have changed because you guys don't have to be homemakers anymore.
01:46:03.000As a man, I'm going to have to bring something to the table to make myself a commodity in the dating marketplace for a woman to even date me.
01:46:09.000Women, however, can choose, I want to chase a career.
01:48:34.000My point is: you're mad that men aren't chivalrous anymore.
01:48:37.000You're mad that men aren't marrying women, right?
01:48:39.000You're complaining about the Trad Con era in the 1950s.
01:48:42.000I'm telling you that men have adapted that basically they don't want to pay full price for a depreciating asset that's been used, which is what is a lot of women.
01:48:51.000You're referring to a time where a majority of women, when they got married, were virgins on their wedding night.
01:48:56.000Most women are not virgins on their wedding night.
01:49:20.000Let me let me just so I can see where if I met a man who's got gender plus bodies, and I have let me ask you this: are men and women the same?
01:51:44.000So this whole body count thing, maybe that's exclusive to you, but I would argue most women in general really don't give a fuck about a man's past.
01:51:51.000Every time I start talking about it, please stop interrupting.
01:53:11.000Men are held to the you guys can change what you guys want to do when you're, you know, everything else like that, but men still have to be men.
01:53:17.000And what you said before, oh, men are changing, right?
01:56:11.000Look, anytime a girl says I'm celibate, that means that she went on like a fucking spree.
01:56:15.000Yeah, so um she did she didn't like hearing what I had to say because I was like bringing up uncomfortable things for her like oh man, this guy's talking about family and shit like that.
01:58:46.000Sometimes it's not true because I feel like it comes to a certain extent as a female where people do start looking at the things you do and questioning it, you know.
01:58:55.000But when though, I feel when you're really like 30, 40.
01:59:00.000When you're going for real, like, honestly.
01:59:02.000So you have to have, you got to exhibit like years of poor decisions to actually get held accountable.
01:59:07.000I feel like even if it could be like even a month, if you are doing consecutive, like, if you're back to back, consistently doing and showing that you have, like, that you're just doing bad decisions, what do you think people are going to think of you if you're just continuously proving them right about you?
01:59:26.000You know, like they already think bad about you.
02:01:52.000No, just, I was, I wanted to touch on your point earlier when you said, like, oh, if a girl is like being with a bitch ass nigga, like, stuff like that.
02:01:59.000I feel like, honestly, you're dating somebody to get to know them, right?
02:02:05.000Like, to see if you want to be with them in the future.
02:02:08.000If you see red flags from the beginning, why would you continue being with the bitch ass nigga?
02:03:25.000I do agree with a woman wanting to stay home because my goal in life is to be at home and take care of my child and to be a wife and you wouldn't have agreed to be able to stay at home.
02:03:34.000I just, if I was honestly, if I was in your situation, I don't think that I would have stayed knowing that my man wasn't doing what I expect him to do.
02:03:41.000I understand that he's supposed to be working.
02:03:44.000I'm supposed to give up all of my life to take care of a family that I would expect to do the same.
02:03:50.000You said that the child was not yours.
02:04:24.000And the crazy amount of it all is the fact that I really, he was also selling me the story of the fact that his baby mother was not, she didn't suffice enough as a woman, as a mother.
02:04:34.000So I went ahead and I was like, you know what, like you took that.
02:06:08.000I'll give her something more analogous.
02:06:09.000Like, obviously, sometimes maybe when you get your pair, you're emotional or like you might, you know, have mood swings every now and then.
02:07:40.000Some women complain about how men think.
02:07:42.000If honestly, if we actually gave a fuck about men's mental health first, there, and then, then I don't think we'll be having these problems with certain men.
02:07:50.000So it's like, I really do give a fuck about your mental health.
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02:18:21.000We got to be safe workspace, all this other stuff.
02:18:24.000Like, as feminism has become, you know, more and more prominent in society, we've become softer as a society, and I think we're paying the consequence for that.
02:18:31.000You know, feminism has created a lot of problems and it's put women in positions of power that I don't think they should be having.
02:18:38.000If I may, what workspace do you think the woman has been put in a position where she has upheld that power that you were talking about?
02:18:45.000In government, in finance, and in all different types of industries.
02:18:48.000Like, women have the, they get into a work.
02:18:50.000What ends up happening is they enter a workspace, right?
02:18:53.000Or they enter an industry and they start putting feminine characteristics and traits into said workspace.
02:18:59.000So, for example, men understand hierarchy-based orders, women don't.
02:19:04.000Like, women is like more communitarian.
02:20:13.000I'm just trying to figure out what experience do you have where you feel like you can firsthand say that that's exactly what the woman is thinking and or experiencing.
02:20:26.000Like, what experience do you have where you could say that you have been the one, not just statistically, not just based on what the world says, not just based on what, you know, the, I'm not trying to be, like, I'm really just trying to have a conversation.
02:20:40.000Like, what, genuinely speaking, made you feel firsthand that that was exactly?
02:20:45.000See, that actually, your own question proves my point.
02:20:48.000Notice how you said, so you're asking me for my anecdotal experience when I'm telling you objectively how it is.
02:20:54.000You're telling me how it is, but all I'm doing is asking you in the world.
02:21:21.000What has made you believe in the fact that that's real?
02:21:25.000Because the fact is that there's a lot of perspectives and there's a lot of perceptions.
02:21:29.000I don't understand exactly where I'm incorrect or where I'm wrong.
02:21:33.000What I'm saying is that, no, the fact that you asked me that question proves my point about how women prioritize feelings and anecdotal evidence over objective reality.
02:21:44.000So I told you something that's objectively true about women in general, how they perceive the world, emotions typically come first.
02:21:50.000And then your response to that was, well, okay.
02:31:55.000So, yo, Chris, it's nice to see you're finally working your speaking slash reading skills, but I recommend a more intellectually demanding book.
02:32:03.000Her Myron's got a bestseller sitting somewhere around there.
02:32:06.000I'm sure the ladies would love it as well.
02:32:08.000Yo, green eggs and ham by such a superhero.
02:34:05.000I just think it's funny that you're the one sitting.
02:34:07.000I mean, like, honestly, it's kind of stupid because I'm the one here on the podcast, but you're also the one sitting watching in your house, like, jerking off watching this.
02:38:23.000Whenever there's like domestic violence or any type of like violence in between parties, women are able to benefit, get the benefit of the doubt from ambiguity, right?
02:38:31.000You weren't clear about it until we asked you because whenever women like bring that card up, like automatically most people assume, oh, he was, it was one way he was hitting her or whatever.
02:38:42.000But upon asking clarification, we find out it was you that started the violent behavior and then and then he reciprocated.
02:38:49.000Now, I'm not making an excuse saying like him responding that way was appropriate, but I do think it's incredibly important and pertinent to the conversation to describe the fact that like you're the one that started that downward cycle of violence.
02:39:47.000You benefit, you've been benefiting significantly from the benefit of doubt because, as a woman, most women don't get questioned on their behavior, so you're able to frame things in a certain way and get the benefit of doubt.
02:39:57.000And I can tell that you've enjoyed that benefit of doubt for a very long time.
02:40:00.000Um, just off your behavior and the way that you act and shit like that.
02:40:03.000And you want to be heard always, yeah, always annoying, always.
02:40:05.000But um, when the silence was loud, no, no, loud as always, nigga.
02:40:12.000Like when the silence is loud, when the shoddies don't talk, like, I just be like, I mean, because like you talk all the time, because I can't, bro.
02:40:20.000Your words, it's okay, your words are not important.
02:40:22.000Thank you, but I do, yeah, but I do think it's important.
02:40:25.000Like, I've because I'm like kind of watching and paying attention to like your behavior, and like you have like textbook narcissist behavior.
02:40:31.000And I, and I would argue, I don't want to be an asshole or whatever, but like, I would argue a big component as to why he was reluctant to come home or why he stayed out longer is because you're probably very difficult to deal with.
02:40:41.000Explain what makes me seem like an arcist.
02:41:00.000I'm not just picking on you, but you thrive on speaking in a manner that isn't necessarily direct, but it might have indirect implications that might put that guy in a position.
02:41:10.000Probably, if I had to like replay an argument that you guys would have, you'd probably say something along the lines of, Hey, your son needs you, you need to come home, blah, blah, blah.
02:41:18.000And you might have put it out in a way where it's like almost like an ultimatum.
02:41:22.000He was like, Damn, I want to go home and deal with that right now.
02:41:53.000You will speak when not spoken to, you will make comments and not remember what you said.
02:41:57.000Um, you'll make arguments on things that don't really need to be argued, and you have a difficulty with comprehending information that's displayed to you if you don't like it the way that's put out to you.
02:43:27.000And then also, like, another thing, too, you got the mask kind of slipped off when you said, yeah, I'm going to smack the shit out of you when you come out, come home at 5 a.m., blah, blah, blah, you know, whatever.
02:43:35.000Like, and you did that in a very aggressive manner.
02:45:16.000And it's not like dudes want to work 16 hours a day, but anytime I've seen guys reluctant to go home and shit like that, and you probably knew that too.
02:45:23.000That's probably why you're pissed off at him.
02:45:24.000Like, why does this nigga not want to come home?
02:47:34.000Look at all these streamers dating girls, bro.
02:47:37.000It's usually either someone that wants to come up or clout or they see benefit where they can get some type of like game.
02:47:46.000Simply put, the things that she needs to advance her career directly put your relationship in a precarious situation.
02:47:51.000So if she wants to be an entertainer, she's going to have to interact with male managers, male influencers, male musicians, depending on what she does, or men in the entertainment industry.
02:48:00.000And that is not conducive to a good long-term relationship.
02:48:03.000It's just like, yeah, like you, she's going to be around a whole bunch of like landmines, essentially, that gets for your relationship all the fucking time by virtue of her job.
02:48:13.000Her job proximity puts her in a dangerous position, not just for herself, but also for you as the partner in that relationship.
02:48:21.000So it's just not, women are to be seen, not to be heard.
02:48:24.000I hate to say that, but that's really what it comes down to.
02:48:26.000And that's when relationships operate the best.
02:48:28.000The woman is in the background, the guy's in the forefront.
02:48:31.000Because when women have the starlight or whatever, things just don't end up well.
02:48:44.000And women also tend to be extremely solipsistic, which means they think that the world revolves around them a little bit different than narcissism.
02:48:52.000It's a natural tendency that women have because you guys have to care for children and you have to make sure that you're alive so that your child can be alive.
02:48:58.000It's actually like a self-preservation trait.
02:49:01.000But since women tend to be solipsistic and narcissistic, this is precisely why they cannot be the main character of the relationship.
02:49:08.000It has to be the man, that's the main character, because men have to earn their main character status.
02:50:07.000Most heterosexual men are like, that's it, just heterosexual women, that's it like, that's what we want.
02:50:12.000Women however, can get turned on by a bunch of shit, girls kissing anything uh, a dude kissing a chick, monkeys banging, whatever.
02:50:18.000They've shown this in studies that women are actually uh yeah yeah, like women will, um get turned on by a bunch of different things.
02:50:24.000That's why they kiss early in school, they experiment with other girls because they're just curious.
02:50:28.000I also think it's gonna be more on rumble.
02:50:30.000I could say this, I also think that's like a self-preservation thing that women need to be able to turn in by multiple things because, let's be honest, like since the beginning of time with, like you know, when life wasn't as stable, like when men would conquer civilizations, what would they do?
02:50:43.000So they would have to find ways to kind of I don't want to say educate themselves, but I think it's a self-preservation thing that women are able to accommodate a multitude of different, um sexual behaviors.
02:51:15.000But I'm saying that that's why women are open to more things sexually because they had to do it to adapt and survive.
02:51:22.000So since like, you know, since they'd be conquered or they'd lose a husband, they had to become war brides or whatever, women had to have a wider repertoire of things that would turn them on.
02:51:33.000This is how they kind of got around a fucking ugly dude smashing him after a war.
02:51:38.000We promote dark side of humanity, though.
02:51:43.000But I do think from like a human evolution standpoint, it's important to note that the whole concept of like female choice and consensual sex is a fairly novel and new thing.
02:51:51.000Since human history, like women have, you know, unfortunately been sexually assaulted.
02:51:59.000Obviously, now human rights and we've developed, but I think that's a big reason as to why women from a human evolution standpoint have been able to acclimate and acquiesce to different sexual things that they're turned on by.
02:52:36.000I'm telling you that women have a wide repertoire of things that turn them on because they've had to endure rape for centuries of human history.
02:52:42.000So this is why they've had to be able to do that.
02:53:00.000So for the men, they showed them like a dude walking on a beach, monkey smashing, heterosexual sex from pornography, and some other images.
02:53:10.000They measured the blood that went to their genitals, and then they also measured when they clicked the button.
02:53:15.000And they were supposed to click the button when they're aroused.
02:53:17.000So with the men, interestingly enough, when they saw the heterosexual sex or the women kissing, they clicked a button saying they were turned on and it matched up with the genitals getting blood flow there.
02:53:27.000So in other words, what they clicked on was what they responded to sexually.
02:53:53.000The women only clicked on things that were politically correct to be aroused by, but they were actually being aroused by almost everything that they were shown.
02:54:00.000Versus for the men, they were only aroused by things that guys like.
02:54:03.000So in other words, women are turned on by far more than they care to admit for obviously social reasons, right?
02:54:10.000They don't want to be looked at as a whore or sexual degenerate because a woman's looked at as a whore, her ability to find a partner is obviously contingent upon her sexuality, right?
02:54:18.000So that's, I've always thought that that was like very interesting.
02:54:20.000I think that comes from human evolution of like thousands of years of women being taken as captives and, you know, obviously all the evil things that happened before.
02:58:53.000Some just are better hiding the shovel.
02:58:55.000And what I mean by this is like women care a lot about like potential or character, but typically the things they care about when it comes to character and potential almost always have a direct tie to their income capacity.
02:59:10.000So like, let's say a guy doesn't have money, but he's in med school.
02:59:13.000Well, the girl will be with him and they'll be like, I don't care about money.
03:00:34.000Because you want to be a stay-at-home mom, but in practice, you argued in her favor.
03:00:39.000Because when you're doing it consecutively and you're not prioritizing your family, I think it's different now when I know that you're actually busy and you're working to provide.
03:00:47.000That is different to where you're not actually caring for your family.
03:01:56.000I don't necessarily know what she went through.
03:01:59.000I don't know if her man didn't want to be home because of, like you guys were saying, maybe because she was a narcissist or because he genuinely was busy.
03:02:06.000If my man is working 16 hours a day and he's super busy and he's providing, that's different from knowing that he's out because he doesn't want to deal with me or he doesn't want to deal with the father.
03:02:18.000The reason why you decided to side with her is irrelevant.
03:02:21.000The point I'm trying to describe here is that even though she has a completely different worldview and she opposed what you believe in, you took her side and defended her.
03:02:47.000The only reason there's even a confrontation because I'm saying that you contradicted your belief system by agreeing with her decision.
03:02:54.000The reason that she agreed, I think the reason that she had agreed with her initially, I'm not coming for you, by the way.
03:03:01.000I think the reason that she agreed with her initially is because she left out the part where she said that she inflicted the physical abuse or whatever.
03:03:11.000Um, first, okay, yes, but like, okay, but listen, it's not right to do that at all.
03:03:19.000That's one of the reasons why I acknowledge.
03:03:21.000I understand, and I told you I'm not coming for you for that, but I think stop the show.
03:04:41.000I'm saying, what I'm saying is, it took us calling her out and you guys hearing more information for you to guys say, oh, well, maybe we didn't know everything.
03:04:50.000But what I'm saying is, had we never pulled this information out of her and had this discussion, she would still be defending her life decisions, even though it opposes her.
03:04:57.000You would still be assuming that her man was the one beating on her only and it was one directional when it was bi-directional.
03:05:04.000And that's what I'm trying to say is that women always get the benefit of the doubt.
03:07:11.000Were you saying something before you were saying that, like, you came to the fence because we're like making fun of you, whatever, or something like that?
03:07:20.000I was saying that I agreed with your point that when she explained a little bit more, that's when we kind of like, or some of the girls here kind of switched sides or whatever.
03:09:00.000Because I told you before you guys, like, before we dove deeper, I told you I left it because it was literally like I had more in life that I wanted to go for.
03:12:06.000I mean, I don't know why you, it's the truth, maybe?
03:12:08.000Like, I mean, you know, thank you for the first I don't know that you've given me because like dead ass because like honestly like that's really the case.
03:12:16.000I was really just speaking my truth the moment that it was spoken.
03:12:20.000When you guys asked the question, I went ahead and answered it.
03:12:22.000If I had secrets to keep, I would have kept them.
03:12:25.000I wouldn't have expressed myself openly.
03:12:27.000Like you said, you hit him first, so you are not the victim.
03:12:33.000Okay, you didn't volunteer that information.
03:12:35.000You didn't volunteer that information until I asked you.
03:12:39.000Until I asked you, of course, but if we left it to your own devices, you would have just been like it got physical and left it there because of the situation I genuinely wouldn't have there.
03:12:48.000It like nobody asked me, it's nobody's fucking business.
03:12:52.000Like each is own, nobody gives a fuck.
03:12:54.000At the end of the day, all these subscribers that you had, like they they yes, they listen, but they like the tea that, like we're giving her what she wants right now.
03:13:22.000You know, you guys have seen a lot of female tendencies, not getting into confrontations, taking each other's sides, even when it, you know uh, goes against their worldviews.
03:21:38.000It's like a very small percentage, but like, there's plenty of girls that are idiots that like make it through life and find a guy or anybody to make, like, there's just so many different outs for females.