Fresh & Fit - May 11, 2023


Should Men Live w- Their Girl? Debate w-Destiny & SNEAKO! Lib Lawyer Kicked OFF For THIS!


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 59 minutes

Words per Minute

223.76785

Word Count

40,226

Sentence Count

3,883

Misogynist Sentences

391

Hate Speech Sentences

332


Summary

On this episode of the Fresh Fit Podcast, we have special guest, Angie! We talk about how she became a hookah girl, what she does for a living, and what she's up to now. She's 25, from Venezuela, and has a Bachelor's Degree in Mass Communication and a Master's degree in Mass Mass Communication. She's a social media manager, and is in a relationship with a guy she met at a bar called "Bottle Blunt." We also get to hear about her life in general, and how she and her boyfriend met and fell in love with each other. She also talks about her job and what it's like dating in the 21st century. We hope you enjoy this episode, and don't forget to subscribe to our other show, "Fresh Fit Clips" where we post funny short vlogs on funny shorts. That's your host, Fresh Fit! Cheers, Cheers! Fresh Fit, Chris and the FreshFit Crew! P.S. If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE on Apple Podcasts and leave us a rating and review! I'll be looking for new guests to come on the next episode! CHECK OUT THE PODCAST! XOXO, Chris & the Freshfit Crew! <3 - Cheers - Chris & The Fresh Fit Crew CHEERS, Gabby, GABBY, SUE & DADDY & DEREK, EJ & DOUCHEERIE, AKA, - GABOUT OF THE EPISODE: ( ) , GABY, DADDITIONAL WEBSITE and Destiny, SONGS, GABE, JUICY, JAY & KAREN, AND AYO, AND EJ, AND GABBIE, AND KAYLEE, CHEERY, , AND KARLEE AND JAYE, TOO! (THANK YOU, BABY!!) PRAISE ME AND KELLY AND KIM AND KERIE AND DOUG & JYEAH, AND JEASY, AND DYED, AND TAYLOR, AND THE KIDZ AND YA'LL, AND POTTERY AND JAMIE, AND SO MUCH MORE!


Transcript

00:00:00.000 That's your podcast after our edition.
00:00:01.000 We're joining Sneeko, Destiny, and a bunch of girls.
00:00:02.000 Let's get into it!
00:00:03.000 Let's go!
00:00:14.000 Let's get into it!
00:00:23.000 My money cares, bro!
00:00:23.000 Get out!
00:00:34.000 Put your shoes on outside.
00:00:35.000 You don't got to put them on in here.
00:00:54.000 All right, guys.
00:00:54.000 We are live.
00:00:55.000 What's up?
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00:01:28.000 Guys, for more vlogs, man, funny shorts, go check it out.
00:01:31.000 200K on the way.
00:01:32.000 Let's go.
00:01:32.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:01:33.000 Thank you, bro.
00:01:34.000 And then once again, guys, we open up the SEO network.
00:01:36.000 It's amazing.
00:01:37.000 A lot of value in there.
00:01:38.000 A lot of guests.
00:01:38.000 Tune in for it.
00:01:39.000 Let's go.
00:01:41.000 And then also check me out, guys, on FED1811. I'm also on Anchor, Spotify, all the playlists that you guys like if you want to get the audio version of the podcast for true crime stuff.
00:01:49.000 The last one we did was the Genovese Crime Family is going to come out tomorrow with the Crazy Don Vista Gigante.
00:01:54.000 All you guys that like the Mafia.
00:01:55.000 And then the last episode we did was...
00:01:58.000 Yes, the Pizza Bomb Heist, yes.
00:02:00.000 Shout out to Angie for remembering.
00:02:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:02:03.000 So guys, go check that out.
00:02:04.000 The Pizza Bomb Heist.
00:02:06.000 And then also, go get my book, guys, Why Women Deserve Less, in paperback and, of course, in hardcover, coming soon in Spanish.
00:02:12.000 Yes, sir.
00:02:13.000 Shout out to Angie for translating it.
00:02:14.000 And then I also got it on Audible as well.
00:02:17.000 So go check it out, guys.
00:02:18.000 Why Women Deserve Less, number one Amazon bestseller.
00:02:20.000 And then, Chris, go ahead.
00:02:21.000 Yes, and ladies, send me a DM on R.C. Parkson on IG. Make sure your page is not privated.
00:02:27.000 I need photos, ladies.
00:02:28.000 Don't send me paragraphs.
00:02:29.000 And ladies, let's have a great show.
00:02:32.000 All right.
00:02:33.000 Fantastic.
00:02:33.000 Welcome back, guys.
00:02:34.000 Part two.
00:02:35.000 Ladies, if you don't mind, give us your name, your age, what you do for a living, dating status, and if you want to, of course, and we'll start right here.
00:02:45.000 Welcome back.
00:02:46.000 Thank you.
00:02:47.000 My name is Angie.
00:02:48.000 I'm 20-something.
00:02:51.000 And I'm from Venezuela.
00:02:57.000 I have a bachelor degree in psychology.
00:03:00.000 And I work as a hookah girl in a bar called Bottle Blunt.
00:03:05.000 Not hooker.
00:03:06.000 Hookah.
00:03:07.000 Hookah.
00:03:08.000 I can understand you.
00:03:09.000 Sorry.
00:03:10.000 My English is still better than yours, so you're fresh.
00:03:12.000 I would never, bro.
00:03:28.000 She stepped on his big baller brand shoes?
00:03:30.000 BBC getting down horrendous right now, man.
00:03:34.000 Alright, what about you?
00:03:35.000 Welcome.
00:03:35.000 My name is...
00:03:37.000 We didn't get our status!
00:03:39.000 Okay, yeah, I'm in a relationship.
00:03:46.000 Oh, wow!
00:03:46.000 How long has it been?
00:03:49.000 Like, five minutes.
00:03:52.000 How'd you guys meet?
00:03:55.000 Somewhere.
00:03:57.000 None of your business, though.
00:04:00.000 Moving on.
00:04:01.000 I knew Fresh was going to enjoy this episode, man.
00:04:04.000 I looked at the panel and I was like, man.
00:04:06.000 Chris, you do this shit on purpose, man.
00:04:08.000 Oh, more or less.
00:04:10.000 Fucking dickhead.
00:04:11.000 Okay.
00:04:12.000 What about you?
00:04:13.000 Okay, my name is Gabby Labarca.
00:04:15.000 I have a bachelor's degree on science of communication.
00:04:19.000 It's Gabby, you said?
00:04:19.000 Gabby.
00:04:20.000 Okay, how old are you?
00:04:21.000 Gabby, 25.
00:04:22.000 Okay.
00:04:22.000 And you're from where?
00:04:23.000 From Venezuela.
00:04:24.000 Cool.
00:04:25.000 Okay.
00:04:25.000 I also work as a social media manager, so if anyone needs me, you know, follow me on Gabby Labarca.
00:04:32.000 Okay.
00:04:32.000 And then you said you have a bachelor's degree in what?
00:04:35.000 On mass communication.
00:04:36.000 Mass communication.
00:04:37.000 Okay.
00:04:38.000 I'm a journalist.
00:04:39.000 Okay.
00:04:40.000 And what's your relationship status?
00:04:43.000 In a relationship.
00:04:44.000 Okay.
00:04:45.000 How long y'all been together?
00:04:46.000 One year.
00:04:47.000 Okay.
00:04:47.000 Congrats.
00:04:48.000 What about you?
00:04:49.000 My name is Zaria.
00:04:50.000 I'm 25.
00:04:51.000 I sing, I model, and I'm also a bottle girl.
00:04:55.000 Where are you from?
00:04:56.000 I'm from Virginia.
00:04:57.000 My family's from Trinidad.
00:04:58.000 Okay.
00:04:59.000 Ollie is stupid.
00:05:00.000 Yeah.
00:05:02.000 And then what's your highest education level completed?
00:05:05.000 I did two years of college and I was valedictorian in high school.
00:05:08.000 Okay.
00:05:08.000 Were you a, like, do you have an associate's degree or?
00:05:11.000 Yeah.
00:05:11.000 Well, I was in school for psychology, so.
00:05:14.000 Okay.
00:05:14.000 So you got your associate's in psychology.
00:05:16.000 Yes.
00:05:16.000 Okay.
00:05:18.000 Are you going back or not?
00:05:19.000 I might, but I mean, I'm making a lot of money doing, you know, what I dream of doing.
00:05:24.000 That's like a plan B for me.
00:05:25.000 So you said sing, bottle girl.
00:05:27.000 What was the third thing you did?
00:05:28.000 Well, bottle girl is just a side thing.
00:05:29.000 Okay.
00:05:29.000 But I sing and I model and I also act too.
00:05:31.000 Question.
00:05:32.000 Sure.
00:05:33.000 Have you been in Vogue?
00:05:35.000 I get paid, so that's all I need.
00:05:37.000 That's a no.
00:05:38.000 What's your relationship status?
00:05:40.000 I'm taken.
00:05:41.000 Okay.
00:05:41.000 How long have you been together?
00:05:42.000 Five years.
00:05:43.000 All right.
00:05:43.000 Cool.
00:05:45.000 What about you?
00:05:46.000 Hi, I'm Stephanie.
00:05:48.000 I'm 31.
00:05:49.000 Wait, 31?
00:05:51.000 Yeah.
00:05:52.000 Where are you from?
00:05:54.000 I'm from, actually, Washington State.
00:05:56.000 Okay.
00:05:57.000 What part?
00:05:59.000 Yakima.
00:06:01.000 Bless you.
00:06:02.000 Okay.
00:06:04.000 It's a really small town.
00:06:06.000 You've probably never heard of it.
00:06:07.000 How far is it from Seattle?
00:06:09.000 It's like four hours.
00:06:10.000 It's closer to Tacoma?
00:06:11.000 It's like in a valley.
00:06:13.000 Nobody knows of it.
00:06:15.000 Okay.
00:06:16.000 What do you do for it?
00:06:19.000 A hairstylist.
00:06:20.000 Okay.
00:06:21.000 And my highest level of education is I finished high school.
00:06:25.000 I went like one year to college and dropped out.
00:06:27.000 Okay.
00:06:27.000 Religious status?
00:06:29.000 I'm single.
00:06:30.000 Single.
00:06:31.000 All right.
00:06:31.000 Are you Native American?
00:06:33.000 Yeah.
00:06:34.000 What tribe?
00:06:35.000 I don't even know, honestly.
00:06:39.000 It's from Montana.
00:06:40.000 Do you know what percentage you are?
00:06:43.000 My mom's half, so that would make me quarter.
00:06:46.000 Wait, does that qualify?
00:06:48.000 She could live on a reservation if she wanted to.
00:06:51.000 Do you want kids?
00:06:52.000 No.
00:06:53.000 Not right now.
00:06:55.000 What about you?
00:06:59.000 My name is Mina.
00:07:01.000 I'm 18 and I literally did not like go to college at all.
00:07:06.000 I literally just went to high school.
00:07:09.000 Where are you from?
00:07:13.000 Fort Lauderdale.
00:07:14.000 Okay.
00:07:14.000 You look familiar for some reason.
00:07:15.000 A lot of people say that.
00:07:17.000 I said the same.
00:07:18.000 I don't know why.
00:07:19.000 What do you do for work?
00:07:21.000 Like as of right now, I just like got out of relationships.
00:07:24.000 Oh, so you were dating.
00:07:27.000 No.
00:07:28.000 No?
00:07:28.000 Whoever you're about to say, no.
00:07:30.000 Oh, don't say it.
00:07:31.000 No comment.
00:07:31.000 I mean, you could.
00:07:32.000 I don't care.
00:07:32.000 No, no, no.
00:07:33.000 Alright, so you're fun employed right now.
00:07:36.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm just like, I don't want to be in a relationship.
00:07:40.000 The question was, what do you do for work, not your relationship.
00:07:43.000 Oh, I thought you...
00:07:43.000 Okay, never mind.
00:07:44.000 I guess that relationship was work, too.
00:07:46.000 Okay.
00:07:47.000 It was.
00:07:47.000 And then high school, and then you're single now, right?
00:07:49.000 Mm-hmm.
00:07:50.000 Okay.
00:07:50.000 But you're unemployed.
00:07:52.000 Yeah.
00:07:52.000 Okay.
00:07:53.000 I mean, you're 18.
00:07:54.000 I'm an island boy.
00:07:56.000 Trying to make it.
00:07:57.000 Really?
00:07:58.000 Yeah?
00:07:59.000 Is that what it is?
00:07:59.000 I'm sorry.
00:08:00.000 I'm sorry.
00:08:03.000 It's Tina's fault.
00:08:04.000 Honestly, it's Tina's fault.
00:08:05.000 Oh, wow.
00:08:06.000 Just trying to make it.
00:08:08.000 Why are you corrupting 18-year-old girls with island boys?
00:08:10.000 I broke them up.
00:08:11.000 That's not corrupting.
00:08:12.000 I saved her.
00:08:13.000 Okay, good, good.
00:08:18.000 What about you?
00:08:21.000 My name is Amy Dangerfield.
00:08:22.000 I'm 27.
00:08:23.000 Hello.
00:08:25.000 I'm from Australia originally.
00:08:29.000 I do high ticket sales and recently YouTube and I am single.
00:08:35.000 Okay.
00:08:35.000 Wait, weren't you in a relationship last time?
00:08:37.000 You talked so positive about your relationship.
00:08:40.000 I was.
00:08:40.000 What happened?
00:08:41.000 Oh, shit.
00:08:42.000 It's, um...
00:08:42.000 She wants more.
00:08:45.000 It's fairly recent.
00:08:46.000 You ended it, huh?
00:08:47.000 You were like kind of a girl boss, I remember.
00:08:50.000 No, it wasn't necessarily...
00:08:52.000 One thing that I can say is definitely this...
00:08:58.000 I can't even talk.
00:09:01.000 No, this show ended it?
00:09:02.000 It didn't end it, but this show definitely showed me a lot about...
00:09:05.000 It gave me a much better understanding about relationships, male and female dynamics, and exactly what those roles are and how they need to be fulfilled.
00:09:13.000 And I definitely did the best to do my part in.
00:09:16.000 And you left because he was a son.
00:09:19.000 I'm not going to say that.
00:09:21.000 Who made more, you or him?
00:09:24.000 She did.
00:09:25.000 He made a little bit more.
00:09:27.000 He has a very successful media company, which I helped him launch.
00:09:30.000 I actually formed his LLC for him.
00:09:33.000 He worked at a high-paying media job, and I encouraged him to go out and build his own business.
00:09:38.000 And it's been very, very successful.
00:09:39.000 So he actually makes more than me.
00:09:41.000 So why did you...
00:09:42.000 Yeah, why did you break up with him?
00:09:43.000 Yeah.
00:09:45.000 He cheated.
00:09:46.000 No, he didn't.
00:09:48.000 It was boring.
00:09:49.000 Guys, listen, this is something that I probably will talk about in the future, but it is very real and very raw.
00:09:54.000 And we're still figuring out a lot of the logistics, right?
00:10:00.000 And so I really don't want to throw anyone under the bus.
00:10:02.000 I don't.
00:10:02.000 Yeah, so.
00:10:03.000 Do it.
00:10:04.000 Do it.
00:10:05.000 Do it.
00:10:05.000 Nah, we'll get to the bottom of it.
00:10:07.000 She's in danger.
00:10:08.000 I'm sure you guys will get to the bottom of it.
00:10:11.000 We'll get to the bottom of it.
00:10:12.000 He probably smashed another chick.
00:10:14.000 I thought she made more money, but it's not what it is.
00:10:18.000 She was like, no.
00:10:23.000 Associates in justice and legal.
00:10:24.000 Okay.
00:10:25.000 And that was in Australia, right?
00:10:26.000 Yes.
00:10:26.000 Okay.
00:10:27.000 And then, well, I guess you're single now.
00:10:29.000 And then when you say high ticket, what do you sell again?
00:10:33.000 Business operations.
00:10:34.000 So like trucking operations and also e-commerce stores, things of that nature.
00:10:39.000 Okay, cool.
00:10:40.000 What about you?
00:10:41.000 Welcome back.
00:10:42.000 Hi, my name is Dom.
00:10:44.000 I am 23 years old, originally from New Orleans.
00:10:50.000 I am getting my law degree next year, so I just finished my second year of law school today, actually.
00:10:58.000 So you have your bachelor's degree now?
00:11:00.000 Yes, I have a bachelor's in international business.
00:11:03.000 Okay.
00:11:03.000 Where'd you get it from?
00:11:04.000 From Howard University.
00:11:05.000 Okay.
00:11:06.000 All right.
00:11:07.000 And the last question was what?
00:11:10.000 Your relationship status?
00:11:11.000 I'm single.
00:11:12.000 Okay.
00:11:13.000 Cool.
00:11:14.000 What kind of law are you looking to get into?
00:11:16.000 I plan on going into entertainment and sports, specifically talent representation, more so in music, but eventually across all areas, like sports, TV, film, music, influencers, all that type of stuff.
00:11:32.000 All right.
00:11:32.000 And then are you like a full-time student as far as employment goes?
00:11:36.000 I'm a full-time student, but I have an internship that I'm not going to mention.
00:11:42.000 That's fine.
00:11:43.000 And then I do social media for my school program that I'm in.
00:11:48.000 Okay, cool.
00:11:49.000 All right.
00:11:50.000 What about you?
00:11:51.000 I'm nobody special.
00:11:52.000 I work for a small local radio station in downtown Miami.
00:11:56.000 Yes, sir!
00:11:58.000 Okay.
00:11:59.000 I'm Zena.
00:12:01.000 Yeah, that's it.
00:12:02.000 I work for Fresh and Fit.
00:12:03.000 Highest education was homeschooling.
00:12:04.000 Highest school.
00:12:05.000 Well, hold on, hold on.
00:12:06.000 How old are you?
00:12:07.000 27.
00:12:08.000 Okay.
00:12:08.000 And then where are you originally from?
00:12:10.000 Akron, Ohio.
00:12:11.000 Okay.
00:12:12.000 And then what do you, well, you work for, yeah, okay.
00:12:15.000 I work in a freshman, but that's all that I do.
00:12:17.000 Okay.
00:12:19.000 And then highest education levels, high school, and then relationship status?
00:12:21.000 Taken.
00:12:22.000 Okay.
00:12:23.000 Body count?
00:12:23.000 No, no, hold on, hold on.
00:12:25.000 Move on, move on.
00:12:26.000 That's none of your business, Chris.
00:12:27.000 But how'd you meet this person?
00:12:31.000 Well, you see, the thing is, how I met this person is...
00:12:34.000 You don't need to talk to him.
00:12:35.000 You don't need to talk to him.
00:12:36.000 How long has it been?
00:12:37.000 Don't talk to her.
00:12:39.000 Oh, is it you?
00:12:40.000 No, just don't talk to her.
00:12:41.000 Okay.
00:12:42.000 Let's move forward then.
00:12:44.000 Daddy's talking.
00:12:47.000 Okay, let's move forward.
00:12:49.000 Man, Chris knows what the fuck he's doing, man.
00:12:52.000 Fucking dickhead.
00:12:54.000 Okay.
00:12:54.000 What about you?
00:12:55.000 Hi, I'm Cara.
00:12:57.000 I'm 24.
00:12:58.000 I'm sorry.
00:12:58.000 What is it?
00:12:59.000 Yaha?
00:12:59.000 Cara.
00:13:00.000 Bless you.
00:13:01.000 Cara.
00:13:02.000 Okay.
00:13:02.000 How old are you?
00:13:03.000 I'm 24.
00:13:04.000 Where are you from?
00:13:05.000 I'm from Paris.
00:13:16.000 I have a beauty business with my best friend.
00:13:19.000 Shout out to Marianne.
00:13:20.000 Here or in France?
00:13:21.000 In France.
00:13:23.000 So you're just here visiting?
00:13:25.000 Yeah, I'm in here on vacation.
00:13:28.000 Highest education level complete?
00:13:30.000 I don't know how you say that, but I did my high school.
00:13:33.000 High school?
00:13:34.000 Okay.
00:13:34.000 High school.
00:13:37.000 I think they call a primary school in Europe, right?
00:13:42.000 Can you understand French?
00:13:44.000 A little bit.
00:13:47.000 What did I say?
00:13:50.000 24.
00:13:53.000 Okay, what's your relationship?
00:13:56.000 So, I'm just freshly single.
00:13:58.000 Okay, I just became recently single too, that's what I was saying, Ms.
00:14:06.000 Danger.
00:14:07.000 Okay, so...
00:14:09.000 Alright, I'm going to go ahead and...
00:14:10.000 So, guys, what we'll do is we got 12,000 of y'all in here, so what I'll do is I'm going to read the chats that came in from before, but from this point forward, we'll go 50 and up.
00:14:18.000 And then Destiny and Sneko?
00:14:19.000 Yeah, and then Destiny and Sneko introduce themselves.
00:14:22.000 Alright, cool.
00:14:23.000 I'm Destiny.
00:14:24.000 I've got a YouTube channel, youtube.com slash destiny, and I've got an Instagram at instagram.com slash destiny.
00:14:29.000 Why are you trying to pull your Instagram so much?
00:14:31.000 Because it's a cool platform.
00:14:33.000 Is it?
00:14:33.000 Yeah, it is.
00:14:34.000 Cool.
00:14:34.000 Yeah.
00:14:35.000 Rumble.com slash Nico, streaming every night at 8 p.m.
00:14:37.000 Eastern, and that's where you can find me, Twitter, Instagram, other sites banned.
00:14:42.000 Fair enough.
00:14:42.000 Yeah, go check them out, guys.
00:14:44.000 So, Destiny, you had a question, so I'll turn it to you, my friend.
00:14:47.000 Go ahead.
00:14:47.000 I have a question for the ladies on the panel.
00:14:49.000 Please.
00:14:49.000 Right.
00:14:50.000 Would you guys date a man that said he would never live with you, but instead wanted to live with all of his boys instead?
00:14:56.000 Damn, long term, but he tells you, I'm never going to live with you, you can have sleepovers and stuff, but we're never going to live together.
00:15:01.000 But he's like a cool guy otherwise, I'm just curious.
00:15:03.000 I have a follow-up question after we go answer this one.
00:15:05.000 Okay, sure.
00:15:06.000 That's fine, that's fine.
00:15:07.000 We'll start here with Miss Pari.
00:15:09.000 Would you live with a guy who...
00:15:11.000 Not literally a guy, a date a guy.
00:15:12.000 Oh yeah, okay, excuse me.
00:15:14.000 Would you date a guy, seriously, that said he doesn't want to live with you?
00:15:25.000 Okay, that's fair.
00:15:32.000 Okay, you would agree.
00:15:34.000 What about you?
00:15:37.000 Personally, I don't think I would actually live with anyone until I'm engaged.
00:15:42.000 So that would be like a deal breaker.
00:15:44.000 If he was like, I'll never live with you, I'm not going for that.
00:15:47.000 No, but while you're dating, that's fine.
00:15:49.000 Well, but we're saying forever, so that's cool.
00:15:51.000 He said forever.
00:15:52.000 He said, I will never live with you, like, ever.
00:15:55.000 She listens.
00:15:57.000 You can learn something, Seiko.
00:15:58.000 I'm not about to graduate law school for nothing.
00:16:01.000 No.
00:16:02.000 Alright, so that's a no from you.
00:16:02.000 What about you?
00:16:03.000 That is scary.
00:16:04.000 Yeah, I agree.
00:16:05.000 And logistically, especially long-term for, like, the family unit, that's probably not going to be the best thing.
00:16:13.000 No...
00:16:16.000 It depends on the definition of dating, but me personally, I had a bad experience living with a guy that I was dating, so I personally would not do it again.
00:16:27.000 So you'd be okay with that?
00:16:30.000 Of course.
00:16:30.000 Living in different locations.
00:16:32.000 What about you?
00:16:33.000 W. I think I would be okay with it if it was his own house, but the fact that it's with other guys, I don't know about that.
00:16:42.000 Is that required in the question that you're asking?
00:16:44.000 Well, because you would be living with other high-value men, of course, so you'd be networked.
00:16:47.000 Of course.
00:16:49.000 Okay, so you would say yes, but if you live with other guys, no.
00:16:52.000 Yeah.
00:16:53.000 Okay.
00:16:55.000 That's a little sus, sir?
00:16:55.000 What do you think?
00:16:57.000 Yeah, unless he had, like, you know, he was running, like, a YouTube channel in there and we, like, work together or something.
00:17:01.000 Oh, work.
00:17:02.000 Okay.
00:17:04.000 So that's a yes, then.
00:17:05.000 That's a yes.
00:17:07.000 Dating, yes.
00:17:08.000 Married, no.
00:17:09.000 Because when I want to have kids, I want a two-parent household.
00:17:12.000 Okay.
00:17:13.000 Alright.
00:17:14.000 Okay, I wouldn't do that.
00:17:15.000 No?
00:17:16.000 What about when you're on your period?
00:17:16.000 No.
00:17:19.000 Do I have to be in the house with you?
00:17:23.000 I think I could take a week off in the apartment.
00:17:23.000 Especially not.
00:17:28.000 Maybe.
00:17:29.000 Alright.
00:17:30.000 That's a compromise I'm going to deal with.
00:17:32.000 It's a religious thing for him.
00:17:33.000 He can't be near women that are menstruating.
00:17:35.000 Absolutely not.
00:17:36.000 At all?
00:17:38.000 You can't be around your wives while they're bleeding.
00:17:41.000 Haram!
00:17:42.000 You gotta follow that Quran all the way, bro.
00:17:44.000 Oh, he doesn't eat pork or anything.
00:17:45.000 I'm watching you.
00:17:46.000 Watch.
00:17:48.000 Yeah, I think that's completely fine.
00:17:52.000 He can leave with whoever he wants.
00:17:54.000 I mean, if he doesn't...
00:17:56.000 Yo, Chris, you said it directly, bro.
00:18:11.000 It's better if he doesn't live with me, you know, like it's just better for their relationship.
00:18:18.000 Yes, which way do you want to start?
00:18:20.000 Angie, could you take a man seriously that sucks dick?
00:18:31.000 Let's simplify the question.
00:18:33.000 Could you date a man?
00:18:34.000 Seriously, that's bisexual.
00:18:37.000 Absolutely not.
00:18:39.000 I don't like that.
00:18:42.000 I just feel like if that's what you do, then I'll never satisfy you as a woman.
00:18:46.000 You're going to always want a man.
00:18:48.000 That's what I think.
00:18:49.000 Maybe you could tag team it, you know?
00:18:52.000 I don't think so.
00:18:57.000 Bisexual man is not completely masculine.
00:19:01.000 What about you?
00:19:04.000 Um, probably not, just because I feel like I would be scared to catch something.
00:19:10.000 I don't know.
00:19:11.000 That's like having sex with a flu?
00:19:14.000 Like, I don't know.
00:19:16.000 Yeah, an STD. I would be scared.
00:19:18.000 What about you?
00:19:18.000 Yeah, 100%.
00:19:19.000 No, that's weird.
00:19:21.000 Yeah.
00:19:23.000 Nerf.
00:19:24.000 Nerf.
00:19:26.000 Nerf.
00:19:27.000 What about you?
00:19:28.000 Nerf.
00:19:29.000 No.
00:19:30.000 No.
00:19:31.000 Xena.
00:19:33.000 Haram.
00:19:33.000 Haram!
00:19:34.000 No, I wouldn't date.
00:19:35.000 Well, so there wasn't one that was okay with that, but the living with high-value man thing, which you were kind of insinuating is gay, that men want to live with other men.
00:19:42.000 The panel was pretty 50-50 on that.
00:19:44.000 Some of them were okay with the compromise.
00:19:45.000 It's work.
00:19:46.000 They understand.
00:19:46.000 Depends on what level of the relationship.
00:19:48.000 But when it comes to...
00:19:51.000 Bisexuality, not one woman here is okay with that.
00:19:53.000 No person in a serious relationship would be okay with never living with their partner.
00:19:57.000 That's a joke.
00:19:58.000 Even the people that sat on the panel, they'd be okay with it.
00:20:00.000 They wouldn't be okay with it in a serious long-term relationship.
00:20:01.000 They just said they would be.
00:20:02.000 That's fine that they say, but didn't you guys also say women lie all the time?
00:20:05.000 Nobody who's like 32 who is talking to their friends like, oh, you're dating this guy?
00:20:09.000 Yeah, we dated for like eight years.
00:20:10.000 I'm really excited because tomorrow I'm going to go have a sleepover at his house.
00:20:13.000 Nobody would be okay with that.
00:20:14.000 That's a joke.
00:20:15.000 But Destiny, that would mean they would all lie on every answer.
00:20:18.000 So this means it's not good a basement of judgment.
00:20:20.000 That's true.
00:20:21.000 You never know.
00:20:22.000 I do want to say this so that it makes more sense.
00:20:24.000 Just so you guys know, he asked that question to make fun of us.
00:20:27.000 Because we were saying earlier that you shouldn't live with your girl.
00:20:30.000 When I said that, what I mean is in like, you should get a house, like let's say y'all have a family, y'all have kids or whatever.
00:20:35.000 You buy a house for her and the kids and you're there, but you should not be spending all your time there is my point.
00:20:41.000 You should have another address that you can go to at times to create, you know, some space.
00:20:46.000 I think space makes things very important and makes the heart grow fonder, space.
00:20:50.000 So I should have qualified.
00:20:52.000 We were actually saying the two house strategy.
00:20:53.000 That's who you're going for.
00:20:54.000 Yes.
00:20:55.000 Yeah.
00:20:55.000 Because you didn't ask for more detail.
00:20:56.000 But that would be the strategy in that situation where like if you have a family and it's serious, yes, you have a house for her and the children.
00:21:02.000 You come in periodically and do what you need to do.
00:21:04.000 You obviously support the family because I think the man should be the breadwinner.
00:21:07.000 But you have another address that you actually stay at because I think living with a woman does make you soft as a man.
00:21:12.000 But when you're gonna get to your other address, you're gonna like, it's sketchy, it's weird.
00:21:17.000 I mean...
00:21:18.000 Well, there's a couple of reasons for that, and I'd be happy to go into it if you guys want me to, but before I do, did you guys have anything on that situation with the whole penis licking and...
00:21:29.000 And living somewhere else?
00:21:31.000 I mean, it's interesting because you guys talk about getting to know a woman or whatever.
00:21:35.000 But I feel like, for me personally, I don't consider relationships real until people are living with each other.
00:21:39.000 Because you don't know shit about your partner until you have to spend every day with them to really figure out what's going on.
00:21:44.000 And when you can choose when to see your partner on only your best days, it's hard to know what the person is really like.
00:21:49.000 I agree.
00:21:50.000 But I can also argue, if you live in separate houses, I'm going to see her all the time anyway.
00:21:55.000 Why would you see her all the time?
00:21:57.000 We'll meet up for dinner.
00:21:59.000 You can live right down the street.
00:22:02.000 That's essentially just picking and choosing when you want to be around.
00:22:07.000 I don't think that is Like what a long-term relationship is supposed to be about.
00:22:13.000 That's more casual dating.
00:22:15.000 I would think that casual dating most of the time is happier.
00:22:18.000 A lot of marriages end up sexless.
00:22:20.000 A lot of marriages end up miserable.
00:22:21.000 If you could pick and choose when to spend time, that means that the time you spend together is going to be ultra quality because you want to show your best self.
00:22:27.000 You want to be meaningful.
00:22:28.000 Early on in a relationship, people always dress up nice.
00:22:30.000 They put on a nice cologne.
00:22:31.000 You should have the best talking points.
00:22:33.000 You try to entertain each other.
00:22:34.000 You're trying to make each other as happy as possible because you want to impress them.
00:22:37.000 Yeah, it's a honeymoon phase.
00:22:38.000 It's smoke and mirrors.
00:22:39.000 Why would you give up the honeymoon phase?
00:22:41.000 You should try to upkeep that as much as possible.
00:22:43.000 If you can upkeep that 30 years down the line, that's going to be a happier marriage than two people who are just annoyed by their presence.
00:22:48.000 Is that possible?
00:22:49.000 I think you necessarily have to be annoyed with the person.
00:22:53.000 I was in a relationship for eight years, and six years I was living with my men.
00:22:58.000 And sometimes, yeah, we were all of each other's faces, and it was annoying, but most of the times we get to know each other, like our default, like...
00:23:08.000 I don't know.
00:23:09.000 I feel like it's more real.
00:23:10.000 When you can see the bad, the ugly, and then you appreciate more the beautiful.
00:23:15.000 I think when you do the casual dating, you're not meeting the person.
00:23:18.000 You're only seeing the representative, right?
00:23:20.000 When you do casual dating, you're seeing the person at the- you're not even really seeing them.
00:23:23.000 They could be putting on a front.
00:23:24.000 But when you live with somebody, like you said, like outside of all the flashy cologne and the dresses and everything, you can see who the person really is.
00:23:30.000 And if you want to fall in love with somebody, But here's the thing, you are living with her for a period of time, it's just that it's segmented.
00:23:35.000 It's like, okay, three days I spent with her, boom, now I'm going to go home and have my space.
00:23:39.000 You are living with her and seeing that side, it might take you, you know, you would have been able to find maybe certain things in, you know, two months that you would have taken you maybe seven or eight months living together every single day, but you still find these straights out and still get to know the person.
00:23:49.000 But the main reason why I say guys need to live in a separate location isn't necessarily for the woman, it's for the guy.
00:23:56.000 Yeah, but when I find a woman that, like, synergizes with you, that can help you, that can build you up, but you guys work as a partner, as a team, and she's going to drag you down.
00:24:01.000 As a team on what?
00:24:02.000 What are we going to work on together?
00:24:05.000 Literally anything.
00:24:05.000 Me and my mom?
00:24:06.000 You guys can do health stuff together, you can do meals together, you can go out and have fun together, you can watch TV shows together, you can work on projects together.
00:24:11.000 So we can go out together.
00:24:12.000 I don't want to cook with her.
00:24:13.000 Why would you want to do that?
00:24:14.000 Because it's fun as fuck.
00:24:15.000 What do you mean?
00:24:15.000 That's a super fun activity.
00:24:17.000 With a significant other, anything can be fun, yeah.
00:24:19.000 Everything becomes fun when you're with somebody that you love.
00:24:23.000 So, watching a boring ass movie can be super entertaining with someone that you love.
00:24:28.000 Okay, okay.
00:24:29.000 Look, look, look, ladies.
00:24:29.000 So, because you guys keep looking at it from a female perspective, right?
00:24:33.000 Of like, hey, I get to be on my man, etc.
00:24:35.000 And you guys are looking at it from there.
00:24:36.000 But the reason why I'm saying, and I'm advising men, by the way, why they shouldn't do it is because men typically become lazy when they live with their girl.
00:24:43.000 And what I mean by that is they don't have the same sharpness that they used to have when they attracted the girl in the first place.
00:24:48.000 They're not as diligent about the gym a lot of the times.
00:24:50.000 They start to get lazy.
00:24:51.000 They don't work as hard as they used to, etc.
00:24:53.000 Because women are very comforting, right?
00:24:55.000 And on top of that, let's be a thousand.
00:24:57.000 Women are inherently lazy in general.
00:24:58.000 So they're going to go ahead and encourage you to be lazy.
00:25:01.000 Oh no, stay inside and hang out with me.
00:25:03.000 Let's have some ice cream.
00:25:04.000 Let's watch a movie, blah, blah, blah.
00:25:05.000 So I don't want guys, right, to live in an environment that's too comfortable, right, aka their girl, and get soft.
00:25:12.000 I want guys to stay sharp, to be the man that she fell in love with in the first place.
00:25:15.000 And you're going to maintain that edge and that sharpness by not living with her.
00:25:19.000 Not only would I disagree, I would actually use a stat earlier, actually, that I think actually contradicts that.
00:25:23.000 I think in some ways women can keep men sharper.
00:25:25.000 One of the things you brought up that was only one of the points that was true about men doing worse after divorce is that when men get married through all facets of life, they tend to commit less crime.
00:25:34.000 And as soon as a man gets divorced, the likelihood for him to do more crime starts to increase again because he doesn't have anybody like a stable environment holding him down.
00:25:40.000 That's why you should have good friends around you.
00:25:41.000 You should have iron sharpens iron.
00:25:43.000 Iron does not get sharpened by a feather.
00:25:44.000 And women are feathers.
00:25:45.000 The relationship, now I can't speak for you because I don't know if you do gay relationships.
00:25:47.000 I don't, so I don't have experience with that.
00:25:48.000 You said you do.
00:25:49.000 I don't.
00:25:49.000 I don't date men.
00:25:50.000 Now, if you're dating a man, it might be like that.
00:25:52.000 But the relationship that you have, the relationship that you have with a woman when you're dating a woman is different than the relationship you have with your bros when you're with bros.
00:25:58.000 Your woman should be arguably more invested with you and in you than any of your guy friends are because they don't have They're not building a life with you.
00:26:04.000 They're just being a friend to you.
00:26:05.000 You can be friends with guys that do crazy fucking shit.
00:26:08.000 Your friend can become an alcoholic.
00:26:10.000 You can ruin his fucking life.
00:26:10.000 Don't be friends with them.
00:26:11.000 But with a woman, she's invested in your success as much as you should be invested in your success.
00:26:15.000 She can still be an asset though, just living somewhere else.
00:26:18.000 It doesn't have to be with me.
00:26:20.000 Why can't she be your best friend?
00:26:21.000 Once again, adding to that as well, let's say I live with a woman, right?
00:26:24.000 We see each other all the time.
00:26:26.000 It's going to become boring.
00:26:27.000 If it's time away, then she can miss me and want me more and it's meaningful.
00:26:31.000 But I agree in the sense of before marriage.
00:26:36.000 Yes, I agree with that.
00:26:37.000 Once you're married and you have children and you're building a family dynamic, do I want my husband going in and out my kids' lives because he needs space for three days?
00:26:47.000 No.
00:26:47.000 He's not going anywhere.
00:26:48.000 If you're living in a separate house, I don't agree with that.
00:26:53.000 In a marriage...
00:26:54.000 What's the difference if he's working or he's overseas working, like if he's a high businessman?
00:26:58.000 Because he's not overseas working, he's living in a house down the street.
00:27:02.000 And my dad is a lawyer and he went on business trips and he had to travel a lot.
00:27:07.000 He did not have a separate house down the street from my family home.
00:27:10.000 He was a very present, active dad that still handled business and was a provider and did everything.
00:27:16.000 He can do the same thing, just not live there.
00:27:18.000 Your dad went away, right?
00:27:19.000 To travel for a couple days?
00:27:20.000 He wasn't there all the time.
00:27:21.000 Yeah, but he was on business, not, oh, my dad had to leave the house and go down the street for three days because he needed space.
00:27:28.000 Well, once again, the same scenario there, he's not there.
00:27:30.000 However, the context is different.
00:27:32.000 Because he's working to make money to pay for our lives.
00:27:35.000 That's what you tell the kids.
00:27:37.000 You don't tell them he lives in a separate house.
00:27:38.000 Why would you lie to your kids about your dad having to leave the house because he just needs three days of space for mom every week?
00:27:44.000 I mean, if your kids are four years old and they hear you upstairs, you know, doing what adults do, are you going to tell them, oh, yeah, we were fucking.
00:27:50.000 No, you're going to lie.
00:27:51.000 Oh, mommy and daddy were playing a game.
00:27:53.000 Okay.
00:27:54.000 And then not even to mention, the biggest thing here is nobody would trust a guy not to cheat if that was arranged as well.
00:27:59.000 Right?
00:27:59.000 Like if your guy's leaving for three or four days at a time and then he comes back and sees you, like, I can't see any long term relationship ever working out that way.
00:28:07.000 You're looking at it in a monogamous sense.
00:28:08.000 This is the best way that a man is going to be able to upkeep his masculinity.
00:28:11.000 This is the way that he's...
00:28:12.000 Iron sharpens iron.
00:28:13.000 And I asked, like, what is the team that you're talking about with a man and a wife?
00:28:16.000 And you said watching TV together, cooking together.
00:28:19.000 You said a bunch of feminine activities.
00:28:20.000 And right now, all the women are agreeing with you, but they also disagreed with being in a relationship with you.
00:28:24.000 They said they wouldn't want to be with the bisexual guy.
00:28:26.000 I'm not trying to date any of the women here, number one.
00:28:28.000 I don't care about dating anyone.
00:28:29.000 Okay, but they agree with your relationship ideas, but they don't agree with you.
00:28:31.000 Number two, the way you guys describe things is like doing fun things to do significant others, being feminine, is like, again, the gayest shit I've ever heard in my life.
00:28:38.000 Why would spending time with your girlfriend or wife be feminine?
00:28:42.000 You can spend time with, but I want to do things that are actually fun to me.
00:28:44.000 Cooking is not fun to me.
00:28:45.000 Watching TV and watching Netflix with Booby Bear, cuddling a little bit.
00:28:48.000 Okay, what are fun things to do?
00:28:49.000 What is fun to you?
00:28:50.000 Maybe we can go skydiving.
00:28:51.000 Maybe we can go jet skiing.
00:28:55.000 We can do that living in separate homes.
00:28:58.000 But why can't you, while living in the same house too, why can't your woman be your best friend also?
00:29:03.000 Why can't she encourage you?
00:29:04.000 Women and men are never going to be friends the same way that men are going to be friends.
00:29:06.000 What if she likes guy stuff too though?
00:29:08.000 What if she likes video games?
00:29:10.000 You said you don't want to be a guy that sucks dick and now you want a guy who's gay?
00:29:15.000 Yeah, I like all that stuff.
00:29:17.000 You want a game with your husband?
00:29:19.000 Yes, I like games.
00:29:21.000 No, I don't.
00:29:22.000 So how many of you here, right, know someone that's married?
00:29:25.000 Raise your hand.
00:29:26.000 You know someone that's married, personally?
00:29:28.000 Yes.
00:29:29.000 Are they truly happy?
00:29:30.000 No.
00:29:31.000 Be honest!
00:29:33.000 Are they really happy living together?
00:29:35.000 My parents are literally high school sweethearts and they are actually happy.
00:29:38.000 Okay.
00:29:39.000 Anybody else?
00:29:40.000 My aunt and uncle are also high school sweethearts.
00:29:42.000 They actually are happy.
00:29:43.000 Anybody else?
00:29:44.000 I was raised around very healthy marriages.
00:29:47.000 Okay, outside of your family.
00:29:49.000 Anybody else?
00:29:49.000 All of my friends' parents.
00:29:51.000 I grew up around.
00:29:52.000 Same thing.
00:29:53.000 Still married today.
00:29:54.000 Happy as hell.
00:29:54.000 Still married today.
00:29:55.000 30 plus years.
00:29:56.000 Yes.
00:29:57.000 I would argue that they argue multiple times a month.
00:30:01.000 And ultimately speaking...
00:30:02.000 Conflict is actually healthy.
00:30:04.000 That's part of a relationship.
00:30:05.000 But stepping away and coming back to that person is even better.
00:30:08.000 That's not better.
00:30:09.000 That's the worst thing in the world.
00:30:10.000 It shows you can't even resolve conflict.
00:30:12.000 Not in marriage.
00:30:12.000 If you had a partner and you're like, listen, we're fighting.
00:30:14.000 I'm leaving for three days and I'll come back.
00:30:16.000 That's like the worst thing you could do.
00:30:17.000 There's a difference between avoiding some blowing off steam.
00:30:21.000 Hold on, hold on.
00:30:21.000 Destiny, can I make an ad hominem?
00:30:23.000 Is it about sucking dick again?
00:30:24.000 No, it's not.
00:30:24.000 But you don't live with your wife all the time.
00:30:26.000 I literally do!
00:30:27.000 No, you don't.
00:30:28.000 We travel sometimes.
00:30:29.000 We live together like 95% of the time.
00:30:30.000 Yeah, we travel every place.
00:30:31.000 Doesn't you have an apartment in Austin?
00:30:33.000 Yeah, that she goes to.
00:30:34.000 I think she's been there like two weeks over the past year.
00:30:36.000 But I went with her last time.
00:30:37.000 We live together.
00:30:38.000 She just told me on my stream that she went to Hawaii.
00:30:40.000 Yeah, she was in Hawaii for a week too, and I traveled too.
00:30:42.000 But we live together.
00:30:43.000 We don't have separate houses.
00:30:44.000 Listen, like she said with her dad, sometimes people travel.
00:30:46.000 That's fine.
00:30:47.000 But when we're both at home, why would I want to live apart from my wife?
00:30:50.000 I love being with her.
00:30:51.000 I like spending time with her.
00:30:51.000 I like waking up.
00:30:52.000 I like drinking coffee with her.
00:30:54.000 But you get fed up with her eventually.
00:30:55.000 And then you go your separate ways.
00:30:56.000 No, no, no.
00:30:56.000 I don't get fed up with her.
00:30:58.000 There are just things I like to do with other people too.
00:30:59.000 But I'm never like, I'm sick of you.
00:31:01.000 I need to get away from you.
00:31:02.000 That's kind of what it is.
00:31:04.000 That's not what it is at all.
00:31:05.000 If you spend 100% of your time with your significant other, you're both going to bring each other down.
00:31:09.000 Then you end up relying on each other.
00:31:10.000 You get complacent.
00:31:11.000 You get too comfortable.
00:31:12.000 100% of the time versus living in a separate house are two totally different things.
00:31:16.000 You can have...
00:31:17.000 You can be together in a house and not be crowding each other all the time.
00:31:20.000 There are a lot of times where Mel is at her corner of the house and I'm at my corner of the house doing emails, doing work, and she's working on her fucking Instagram and shit.
00:31:25.000 There are times when we're working on different things.
00:31:26.000 We're not crowding each other.
00:31:27.000 You can do that in the same house as possible.
00:31:29.000 Here's the thing.
00:31:30.000 There's three main reasons why I think you need to live apart.
00:31:33.000 Always with the list.
00:31:37.000 Number one, it keeps the guy sharp, right?
00:31:41.000 He's gonna stay sharp.
00:31:43.000 Number two, it promotes productivity.
00:31:45.000 And then number three, which is gonna be kind of toxic, It keeps the girl guessing.
00:31:49.000 Like, here's the thing with women, right?
00:31:51.000 Women, once they get bored with you, that's the beginning of the end.
00:31:54.000 And when she doesn't necessarily know what you're up to all the time, keeps her mind racing.
00:31:57.000 She's like, what's he doing?
00:31:58.000 Blah, blah, blah.
00:31:59.000 And I've always said it.
00:32:00.000 A woman's imagination is your best friend.
00:32:02.000 Being too available, her being able to see what you're doing all the time, it makes you less attractive to her because men and women are different.
00:32:08.000 But this also...
00:32:08.000 Hold on, hold on.
00:32:09.000 Let me just finish that point real quick.
00:32:10.000 Like women need to feel like they're getting the best man that they can get and they can't have them all the time.
00:32:14.000 It sucks, but that's a necessary component for women to be attracted and aroused by you.
00:32:18.000 So again, I get where you guys are saying like, hey, for the relationship, what the girl wants, blah, blah, blah.
00:32:22.000 But I'm speaking from the male perspective, how you maintain attraction in the relationship is to not always be available.
00:32:27.000 And that's the other biggest thing too, is when she doesn't know where you're at all the time, it has her mind racing, which is to your benefit.
00:32:32.000 You say that, and I think in some really weird hyper red pill world that might be true with some women, but the reality is, listen, you thought you were a fucking federal investigator?
00:32:41.000 A woman that is suspicious is the most keen, crazy fucking investigator of the world.
00:32:45.000 She's going to be driving outside your apartment.
00:32:46.000 She's going to have a second cell phone with a SIM card.
00:32:49.000 Why the fuck would you want a relationship like that?
00:32:50.000 Hold on, hold on.
00:32:51.000 But if she's invested, right, in doing all that, what does that mean?
00:32:54.000 That means your relationship fucking sucks ass.
00:32:55.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:32:56.000 That's the worst relationship ever.
00:32:57.000 When a girl is chasing you, that's what I want.
00:33:01.000 I want the woman to be chasing the guy.
00:33:03.000 That's a psycho, that's a psychopath.
00:33:06.000 Because women, hold on, hold on.
00:33:07.000 When women are chasing your validation and they're stalking you and you're making all these investments, that means they, number one, love you.
00:33:12.000 Number two, they care.
00:33:13.000 And number three, they're less likely to do bullshit and go off with another guy because she's too busy chasing your validation.
00:33:17.000 Yeah, but then you're going to be like DJing in the lobby with a girl and hitting another girl like, hey, Matt, you're talking to somebody.
00:33:22.000 Here's the thing.
00:33:22.000 My point is I want the man to maintain the leverage where the girl likes him more than he likes her.
00:33:28.000 And the reason for that, even though girls might say that's toxic, is because women have so many options nowadays.
00:33:33.000 The only way that you can circumvent female hypergamy and them having all these options is she needs to like you more than you like her.
00:33:39.000 That's when women are the happiest, when they feel like they got the prize.
00:33:42.000 And for you to feel that way, you have to exemplify traits.
00:33:44.000 And not living with her allows you to have that air of mystery.
00:33:47.000 I think that it's called playing games.
00:33:51.000 If you want her to be crazy about you, why don't you want her to...
00:33:56.000 Okay, so men want women to bring them peace, right?
00:33:59.000 Okay, so you said playing games, right?
00:34:01.000 Here's the thing that sucks.
00:34:03.000 See, I wish we could be honest with women, but the thing with women is that you guys are attracted to toxic things.
00:34:09.000 No.
00:34:09.000 Oh, really?
00:34:11.000 What's the highest-selling book for females?
00:34:14.000 For females, I'm a woman.
00:34:15.000 Fifty Shades of Grey.
00:34:17.000 Yeah, but it's a fantasy.
00:34:19.000 Everybody has fantasy.
00:34:20.000 That does not sound lame.
00:34:23.000 Why is Fifty Shades of Grey the most popular female book?
00:34:26.000 Because...
00:34:26.000 Girls love to be dominated.
00:34:28.000 No, but it's only sexual.
00:34:32.000 It's not sexual in a relationship.
00:34:35.000 It's two different things.
00:34:36.000 Yeah, but that's how you maintain sexual attraction in the relationship is you have to have the things that Christian Grey has.
00:34:41.000 Dominant, assertive, successful.
00:34:43.000 He's the one running the relationship.
00:34:44.000 She likes him more than he likes her.
00:34:46.000 Women find these things attractive, right?
00:34:48.000 Universally.
00:34:49.000 I get it that you guys might say, I don't like this.
00:34:51.000 It's toxic or blah, blah, blah.
00:34:52.000 But the reality is you're aroused and attracted to it.
00:34:55.000 And that's what I'm telling guys to be.
00:34:56.000 Because being a nice guy, you know, being with your girl all the time, always being available, it's not attractive.
00:35:01.000 Can I tell you something?
00:35:04.000 Okay, so, for example, I like boring, nice guy.
00:35:08.000 I don't like...
00:35:09.000 I do.
00:35:11.000 I don't like bad guys.
00:35:12.000 I don't like...
00:35:12.000 You were in a relationship for eight years living with him.
00:35:15.000 What happened?
00:35:15.000 Yeah.
00:35:16.000 Oh my god.
00:35:16.000 Do you want me to tell you why we broke up?
00:35:19.000 It's pretty personal, but it was pretty much my fault.
00:35:23.000 I was pretty...
00:35:23.000 I had a...
00:35:25.000 I was pretty toxic at some point.
00:35:27.000 So you had a nice guy and you didn't like it?
00:35:29.000 No, that's not what happened.
00:35:30.000 What, you cheated?
00:35:31.000 So why are we toxic?
00:35:32.000 No, I didn't cheat.
00:35:32.000 He was nice, so why are you toxic?
00:35:34.000 Okay, so not to give all the story, but we...
00:35:38.000 No, but...
00:35:41.000 I had a phase in my life when I was a little bit toxic.
00:35:45.000 Don't say that.
00:35:48.000 It's funny.
00:35:48.000 You just said that you don't want toxic, that you want something calm.
00:35:51.000 You had a calm relationship and you started being toxic.
00:35:54.000 There's more to a relationship than just whether or not they're calm.
00:35:56.000 I was with him for eight years, so it was a roller coaster.
00:36:01.000 You know, it's not always perfect, but I was with him for eight years.
00:36:05.000 I loved him for eight years.
00:36:06.000 What did you think that was toxic?
00:36:07.000 What did I do that was toxic?
00:36:09.000 I don't want to go into that.
00:36:11.000 Okay, but basically women like drama.
00:36:13.000 Women need to be emotionally involved.
00:36:17.000 They need to be invested like they're watching a drama movie.
00:36:20.000 This is how you approach high school relationships and how you approach healthy long-term relationships.
00:36:26.000 She was probably the longest relationship with this entire table.
00:36:30.000 It was really deep stuff, family stuff.
00:36:33.000 It was like a big deal.
00:36:35.000 I'm not going to explain and go into detail, but it was a valid reason.
00:36:40.000 But it was not like I was looking for drama.
00:36:43.000 You said you were toxic.
00:36:44.000 Yeah, but sometimes stuff happens.
00:36:47.000 I don't think that would have happened if he was living in a different place and you weren't getting his attention all the time.
00:36:51.000 You probably would not have acted so toxic.
00:36:53.000 You probably started acting toxic because you got bored.
00:36:56.000 You needed some emotional involvement.
00:36:58.000 No, that's not true.
00:37:00.000 I started acting toxic because of my trauma, some stuff that happened.
00:37:03.000 Sometimes I do some stuff.
00:37:06.000 Emotional damage!
00:37:08.000 Sometimes I do some stuff, but everybody has their trauma.
00:37:12.000 Everybody reacts.
00:37:13.000 Everybody gets triggered.
00:37:15.000 So let me get this straight.
00:37:16.000 You had a nice guy that was there for you, cared for you, and all of a sudden...
00:37:20.000 I was living with him.
00:37:20.000 I loved him.
00:37:21.000 He loves me.
00:37:23.000 All of a sudden...
00:37:25.000 No, but it was eight years.
00:37:28.000 You cannot say that.
00:37:29.000 Eight years of a good relationship.
00:37:30.000 Eight years of a nice guy living together.
00:37:32.000 Randomly this traumatized feelings.
00:37:34.000 This trauma came out of nowhere.
00:37:35.000 You got triggered.
00:37:36.000 Nothing that he did.
00:37:37.000 Nothing.
00:37:38.000 And then you ruin the relationship.
00:37:39.000 Okay, so some stuff that he was doing was triggering me into some...
00:37:43.000 What?
00:37:43.000 He coughed too hard?
00:37:44.000 I thought he was peaceful.
00:37:45.000 I don't want to go into detail because I respect...
00:37:49.000 That's fine.
00:37:50.000 You don't have to go into detail.
00:37:51.000 My point is this.
00:37:52.000 Nice guys...
00:37:52.000 There's a reason why they say nice guys finish last.
00:37:54.000 Not always being available makes you more attractive.
00:37:57.000 That's just...
00:37:58.000 I'm with a nice guy right now, and I've literally left every toxic guy because they were toxic.
00:38:03.000 I come from a family that isn't the healthiest, so I want something that's healthy.
00:38:07.000 Okay, look, you do realize that your own personal experiences don't necessarily reflect the realities of the world?
00:38:12.000 How can you say that?
00:38:13.000 We can't correlate it to the realities of the world.
00:38:17.000 Just because you're saying you like nice guys doesn't mean that a majority of women like nice guys.
00:38:22.000 Congratulations, you might be an exception to the rule, but a lot of women don't like nice guys and punish nice guys.
00:38:27.000 Who likes nice guys at the table?
00:38:30.000 Raise your hand.
00:38:31.000 None of you guys said you wanted a guy who sucks dick.
00:38:34.000 That's the furthest nice guy pill.
00:38:39.000 I had a question.
00:38:40.000 There's a reason why nice guys finish last stood the test of time and it's a saying because women punish men that pedestalize them.
00:38:46.000 That's the point.
00:38:46.000 Just because you don't punish your guy for pedestalizing you doesn't mean that a majority of women aren't.
00:38:50.000 Nice guys finish last is a saying that simps use to try to justify why they don't have a woman.
00:38:55.000 Sims are nice guys.
00:38:57.000 No, they're not.
00:38:57.000 They're losers usually.
00:38:59.000 They're nice.
00:39:01.000 There's nothing nice about being a clingy, desperate loser.
00:39:05.000 They're nice guys to women.
00:39:07.000 They're actually very annoying.
00:39:09.000 They're super annoying.
00:39:10.000 Nobody likes that.
00:39:11.000 They're nice guys for a reason.
00:39:13.000 They want to smash without saying it directly.
00:39:15.000 That's why they're nice.
00:39:16.000 So they're being fake But actual nice guys do pretty well.
00:39:21.000 Because most people like being respected.
00:39:24.000 But that's what the phrase is about, though.
00:39:26.000 That is what the phrase is about.
00:39:27.000 When people say, anytime you hear a guy be like, nice guys, finish last.
00:39:30.000 It's usually some loser that's creepy, clingy, and has nothing going on for him.
00:39:33.000 Listen, bro, I'm a nice guy.
00:39:35.000 But I have an edge to me, which makes me not as nice.
00:39:38.000 You're saying simps!
00:39:40.000 Are nice guys, right?
00:39:41.000 I'm saying that nice guys finish last is not necessarily true.
00:39:44.000 People like people that, when people say, here's a saying that people say, women like assholes.
00:39:47.000 No, they don't.
00:39:48.000 They like guys that can be confident and aggressive, but it doesn't even have to be a dick, right?
00:39:52.000 Like, I can tell, like, an edgy joke to a woman where I joke about, like, a dress or something.
00:39:55.000 That's going to hit a lot differently than calling a woman fat and old, right?
00:39:58.000 One of those is, like, aggressive and confident and edgy, and the other is just fucking mean.
00:40:01.000 Nobody wants to be an actual asshole.
00:40:02.000 That's not, like, a fun experience.
00:40:04.000 You just want to be someone that's confident and has an edge to them.
00:40:06.000 Yeah.
00:40:06.000 You have a better chance of being a dick than being a nice guy is the point.
00:40:11.000 If we have to go off two extremes.
00:40:12.000 The point is this.
00:40:12.000 This is the bottom line.
00:40:13.000 Don't pedestalize women.
00:40:14.000 Sure, I agree with that.
00:40:16.000 But I don't think literally your wife is pedestalizing.
00:40:20.000 Spending all your time with your chick is pedestalizing to a degree.
00:40:22.000 Can I just say one thing?
00:40:24.000 Okay, so I get what you guys are saying definitely makes sense.
00:40:27.000 Like, when you separate with someone, when you're in the heat of an argument, then that can diffuse things, and it can also cause you to not pedestalize your woman.
00:40:34.000 But should we really be doing that and making these ridiculous...
00:40:38.000 We need to live separately versus just learning how to personally develop ourselves to have these conversations in our relationships and actually work through these hardships and difficult times versus needing to literally vacate and go to a whole separate place just to diffuse the tension.
00:40:53.000 Isn't this something that we can learn intrinsically just one-on-one in relationships?
00:40:57.000 A lot of those conversations are just for the women.
00:41:00.000 It's for women to talk it out because she's feeling emotional so that you can bring the man down to an emotional level.
00:41:04.000 That's going to make me more...
00:41:07.000 Beta, it's gonna make me, my energy's gonna be lower.
00:41:10.000 I'm gonna be at your level.
00:41:11.000 You're gonna cry.
00:41:12.000 I'm gonna have to talk it out.
00:41:13.000 We're gonna watch a thing.
00:41:14.000 We're gonna cuddle.
00:41:14.000 And that's, I'm not gonna be at my perfect self.
00:41:19.000 I'm going to be gay.
00:41:20.000 I don't want to be gay.
00:41:22.000 I'd rather be on my...
00:41:23.000 Not being able to talk to women, not being able to live with women.
00:41:26.000 What you're talking about is the gay shit.
00:41:28.000 You're describing gay shit.
00:41:31.000 I want to be able to talk to my woman, but a lot of those conversations that you're talking about where you need to get to know them all the time, you want to see the good and the bad.
00:41:38.000 I want to see the real you.
00:41:40.000 I don't want to see all the bad stuff.
00:41:41.000 I want to know about it, but why do I have to deal with that?
00:41:44.000 A good relationship is about putting your best foot forward at all times and making each other happy.
00:41:48.000 Why does love for a lot of these people equate to being showing your bad stuff too?
00:41:54.000 Crying all the time?
00:41:55.000 Arguing?
00:41:55.000 That's the real...
00:41:56.000 No, it doesn't have to be that.
00:41:57.000 Why can't we just put our best foot forward at all times?
00:41:59.000 You don't do that in every relationship.
00:42:01.000 You don't do that with your friendships either.
00:42:02.000 You don't do that with your family relationships.
00:42:03.000 Ideally you do.
00:42:04.000 No, absolutely not.
00:42:06.000 Friends are supposed to be there for you when you're down too.
00:42:08.000 Not just like only my best foot forward, right?
00:42:10.000 Okay, look.
00:42:11.000 This is going to end all...
00:42:12.000 The bottom line is this, simply.
00:42:14.000 Why you should not live with your girl.
00:42:16.000 It makes you more attractive as a man.
00:42:18.000 Period.
00:42:18.000 None of y'all can argue that.
00:42:20.000 Because you're working on yourself.
00:42:21.000 You're busy.
00:42:22.000 You're not always available.
00:42:23.000 These are things that are inherently attractive.
00:42:25.000 So therefore, you will be more attractive to your girl even though she doesn't like it.
00:42:29.000 That's the bottom line why you should not live with a girl.
00:42:30.000 It's not from the female perspective.
00:42:32.000 It's from the male perspective of you being a more attractive mate not always being available.
00:42:42.000 Let's say we argue, right?
00:42:43.000 And we become at odds.
00:42:45.000 And you say, you know what?
00:42:46.000 Fuck this nigga.
00:42:47.000 I'm gonna call the police and say that he hit me.
00:42:49.000 Guess what?
00:42:50.000 Now I'm on the house and you can stay in the house for free.
00:42:53.000 So ultimately speaking, it could be in a man's not best interest to live with you because you can mess him up at any point in time.
00:42:59.000 With a toxic girl, I would call the police.
00:43:01.000 Like you!
00:43:05.000 Toxic has multiple meanings and what she's saying is...
00:43:08.000 She said she was toxic.
00:43:09.000 What she's more so talking about is that sometimes you develop...
00:43:13.000 Wait, are you a lawyer?
00:43:14.000 I know you're a lawyer.
00:43:15.000 Sometimes you develop self-sabotaging behavior and you become aware of it and you try to heal and grow and learn.
00:43:23.000 So now the next time that she comes into a serious relationship, she'll be more aware of those things that trigger her and she'll be able to better move through those feelings.
00:43:32.000 But wait, time out.
00:43:34.000 What I wanted to say before was that you yourself said, oh, you can't apply this standard to the world universally.
00:43:41.000 But then here you are trying to apply standards universally to all women.
00:43:44.000 So that's a neutral perspective.
00:43:46.000 You cannot apply...
00:43:49.000 Universal things.
00:43:50.000 The bottom line is that I will have my dating preferences and I will have my standards and I will have my expectations.
00:43:56.000 And the girl next to me might have completely different ones.
00:43:58.000 You might have completely different ones.
00:44:00.000 We don't need to compare and contrast.
00:44:02.000 I'm going to look for somebody that aligns with my sets.
00:44:05.000 Whatever they are, you're going to look for somebody that aligns with yours, and we're both going to live full, happy lives.
00:44:12.000 The debate and the argument of you trying to get people to agree, what we're trying to agree on is not going to ever be agreeable because we're all different people.
00:44:22.000 So it's like you're applying universal thinking to different people.
00:44:25.000 Yeah, but there are things that women are universally attracted to and not being available is definitely one of them.
00:44:30.000 There is a difference, real quick, there is a difference between like when you open a relationship versus like when you're married, right?
00:44:37.000 Like if you're, for instance, if you're like just getting to know a girl, even all agree that there are certain things you could keep in mind.
00:44:41.000 So for instance, not responding to her text immediately or some shit like that.
00:44:44.000 There are some games you could play that might be understandable to make it so more desirable.
00:44:47.000 But at this point, like if I text my wife or she texts me, we have to respond instantly.
00:44:50.000 Why the fuck are we playing games with each other?
00:44:53.000 You gotta keep playing the game even when you're in the relationship with a girl because the thing with women is that they're emotional creatures.
00:45:08.000 You gotta constantly stimulate their emotions.
00:45:10.000 Why don't you get your guard down?
00:45:14.000 If you always play games with a girl...
00:45:17.000 The reason why men have to play games with women is because women are the fucking, like, they literally play the games.
00:45:22.000 They start the games.
00:45:23.000 We're the ones that say, oh, I'm not going to text them back or let me pretend to try hard.
00:45:28.000 Some women does that.
00:45:29.000 Some men do that.
00:45:30.000 A lot of women play games.
00:45:31.000 The reason why, yo, I wish we could walk up to girls like, I find you attractive.
00:45:35.000 Let's fornicate.
00:45:36.000 But that would never work.
00:45:38.000 Because women don't operate that way.
00:45:39.000 You guys don't operate on direct communication.
00:45:41.000 I wish I could go up to y'all and tell you what I really think.
00:45:43.000 But I can't.
00:45:43.000 I have to play games.
00:45:44.000 I have to pretend like I'm attracted to you.
00:45:46.000 I have to pretend like I'm going to go ahead and care about your fucking problems.
00:45:48.000 I got to take you on three dates.
00:45:49.000 I got to hear your shit.
00:45:51.000 Blah, blah, blah.
00:45:51.000 I got to bring you back to my place.
00:45:52.000 Make sure the place is clean.
00:45:53.000 You don't want to do that?
00:45:54.000 That's called being in a relationship.
00:45:56.000 No, no, no.
00:45:56.000 That's called dating.
00:45:57.000 What I'm trying to say is that Women want the game, so you have to play the game.
00:46:01.000 So the thing is that you've got to play the game better than them.
00:46:03.000 And the big part to play the game is to maintain and leverage, make sure she likes you more than you like her, and make sure that you stay attractive.
00:46:08.000 But staying attractive a lot of times comes in from not always being available.
00:46:11.000 Okay, can I ask one question and I'll give you all the floor.
00:46:13.000 Can we go around the table?
00:46:14.000 How many girls here have been in a decently long-term relationship?
00:46:16.000 So we'll say six months plus that have enjoyed having a guy like, fuck with your head like this.
00:46:21.000 Where you're like, oh yeah, he's not responding to this for a week or whatever.
00:46:24.000 They're not going to admit that, bro.
00:46:25.000 It's a toxic trait.
00:46:27.000 They won't admit that.
00:46:28.000 Who would?
00:46:30.000 I've talked to a lot of women.
00:46:31.000 I've never heard somebody say, yeah, like, my boyfriend, he didn't text me back for like three days, and that was just like the best thing.
00:46:37.000 Especially on camera, they won't say.
00:46:39.000 Most women are addicted to emotions, so it's a stimulant.
00:46:42.000 What is most women are addicted to emotions?
00:46:44.000 Everybody's addicted to emotions.
00:46:45.000 Women are addicted to emotions.
00:46:45.000 We're emotional creatures.
00:46:46.000 It's a stimulant because you don't get complacent in it if you're constantly wondering, like, damn, does this nigga fuck with me?
00:46:50.000 That keeps you literally focused on one person instead of getting attention from other people.
00:46:56.000 It doesn't.
00:46:56.000 She'll lose interest.
00:46:57.000 She's not going to stay with you if you're playing incident.
00:46:59.000 Number one.
00:46:59.000 And number two, the only types of girls that will maintain interest are the girls that are going to show up at 6am slashing your tires.
00:47:05.000 That's the type of girls that you're picking for.
00:47:07.000 If you're a man and you have a frame, she's going to respect you and not be that crazy.
00:47:10.000 No, she won't respect you.
00:47:10.000 My man can't even live with me?
00:47:11.000 My man can't even live with me?
00:47:13.000 You think she's going to respect that?
00:47:14.000 That's insane.
00:47:14.000 That's where a frame comes in.
00:47:15.000 What is the frame?
00:47:16.000 I can't be around you for more than four days in a row without being weak.
00:47:20.000 The frame is his dominance in knowing to put you in your place.
00:47:22.000 What is your place?
00:47:23.000 Your place in a separate house?
00:47:24.000 If you show up to his fucking house unannounced, he's going to be like, yo, this is done.
00:47:27.000 That's where Frame comes in.
00:47:29.000 She understands that you hate her.
00:47:31.000 That you're there to fuck.
00:47:33.000 These are like the most adversarial relationships I've ever heard in my life.
00:47:36.000 What?
00:47:37.000 These relationships are adversarial.
00:47:38.000 Are you serious right now?
00:47:42.000 Is he serious right now?
00:47:44.000 If you respect somebody, it doesn't matter how crazy you get, you get in your emotions, you aren't going to just pull up to their fucking house unannounced without their permission because you're going to know he's not going to tolerate that.
00:47:55.000 That's what Frame is.
00:47:56.000 Knowing that he's the leader, he's in charge.
00:47:58.000 You don't go over there unless he announces like he tells you to come.
00:48:02.000 Well, I think in a relationship where two people love each other, I think showing up unannounced can be like a fun surprise sometimes.
00:48:06.000 But I guess you guys like fucking know about ourselves.
00:48:08.000 On a woman.
00:48:09.000 That's the serenading.
00:48:10.000 The man shows up on the woman unannounced.
00:48:12.000 The woman should never show up on the man unannounced.
00:48:14.000 Okay.
00:48:15.000 I'm sorry.
00:48:15.000 That's crazy.
00:48:16.000 And I would say relationships...
00:48:17.000 I mean, if you look at what men want versus what women want, it's inherently adversarial.
00:48:22.000 And the reason why is because men are looking for sex.
00:48:24.000 Women are looking for resources, time, and attention.
00:48:26.000 And it's a dance between the two genders to get the other commodity from the other without giving up theirs.
00:48:30.000 So, for example...
00:48:31.000 That's not even true, though.
00:48:32.000 Really?
00:48:33.000 Really?
00:48:33.000 Hold on.
00:48:33.000 Let me explain.
00:48:34.000 Hold on.
00:48:34.000 Before you do your explanation.
00:48:36.000 This is the easiest thing in the world, okay?
00:48:38.000 I can make so many personal texts here and I'm not doing it.
00:48:42.000 Listen, if you go and you find an incel, an actual incel, what is the thing they're looking for most in life?
00:48:49.000 A hug.
00:48:50.000 It's not sex.
00:48:51.000 They want the love and warmth and compassion of being in a relationship.
00:48:54.000 That's what guys and the sex are.
00:48:56.000 But not just sex, but the idea that somebody loves them and accepts them enough to have sex with them.
00:49:00.000 That's why you can't tell an incel, yo, just go buy a prostitute and go fuck her for a night.
00:49:03.000 Or that's why you can't tell any man, if you make enough money, just fuck a different hooker every night.
00:49:06.000 Because you don't want to fuck hooker.
00:49:07.000 You want somebody that loves and accepts you.
00:49:08.000 That's part of being in a relationship.
00:49:09.000 Here's the thing.
00:49:09.000 You didn't refute.
00:49:10.000 What I was trying to say was the two genders are adversarial in general.
00:49:14.000 And the reason why is because both parties want something from the other without necessarily giving up their situation.
00:49:18.000 I'll give you...
00:49:19.000 If you guy courts a girl, right?
00:49:20.000 She wants time, attention, and resources from that man before she gives him sex.
00:49:24.000 Right?
00:49:24.000 And I guess, how do I say this?
00:49:27.000 An indicator of a man having good game is being able to not give all that up while simultaneously getting sex.
00:49:31.000 That's the parameter that guys use to establish if a guy has good game.
00:49:34.000 So what I'm saying is that the two genders want the commodity that the other one has without giving up their commodity.
00:49:39.000 So it's inherently adversarial.
00:49:40.000 Now, I get what you're saying.
00:49:41.000 Oh, well, you're in a relationship, etc.
00:49:43.000 You still have to play the game when you're with your wife.
00:49:44.000 I think the goal is that if you're with a person, you enjoy giving them the time, the attention, the resources, because it makes both of you happy.
00:49:50.000 But if you give it to them in an abundant fashion, they don't respect it anymore.
00:49:53.000 And here's the thing, dude, I wish it wasn't like that, but women don't respect you when they have leverage.
00:49:57.000 I think when you're selecting for crazy women like this, maybe, but for most women, I think they want you to want to spend time and attention and resources on it.
00:50:03.000 To get the best out of your girl, where she's super loyal to you, she's not doing anything else on the side, she fucking only loves and mirrors, respects you, there's no fuck shit, and she stays loyal to you, you must have the leverage as the man.
00:50:14.000 She must have the fear of God that if you leave her, her life is going to suck significantly more.
00:50:19.000 So what's she going to do?
00:50:20.000 I'm telling you.
00:50:21.000 Women operate the best when they're stepping on eggshells, not trying to get you mad or get broken up with.
00:50:25.000 I think if you spend three days a week away from your woman, she's going to be sucking on her dick in like two months.
00:50:29.000 That's not true.
00:50:31.000 You never liked her.
00:50:33.000 You never liked her.
00:50:34.000 You never liked her.
00:50:36.000 Can I ask a question?
00:50:38.000 Actually, ultimate question, okay?
00:50:40.000 The best way to get loyalty then should be military men because they're leaving for It's not about how much time you spend away.
00:50:49.000 It's not about how much time.
00:50:51.000 Years is different than a couple days.
00:50:54.000 Bad argument.
00:50:56.000 Okay, you have a question or we can move on?
00:50:57.000 Yeah, someone else has some.
00:50:58.000 I did, if it's okay.
00:51:00.000 I'm genuinely curious, Myron, because I saw a little clip of yours that went through, and I'm wondering if maybe where it's getting tripped up is that we're talking about normal people's perception of dating versus you guys are trying to instill the high-value perspective, right?
00:51:14.000 One of the clips I saw you basically said that you should never actually fall in love with your woman.
00:51:19.000 I don't know if I misconstrued that.
00:51:21.000 Could you elaborate on that a little bit more and maybe explain how that maybe correlates to what you're talking about here?
00:51:26.000 You shouldn't pedestalize her and think that you're in love the way that movies tell you to be in love.
00:51:31.000 She's your world.
00:51:32.000 She's your everything where you give everything away to her because then you end up living with her for eight years and then she talks about triggering and trauma and she'll end the relationship for no reason.
00:51:40.000 You can invest everything into a relationship but that's not inherently what women want.
00:51:45.000 Women want to constantly try to chase your validation.
00:51:47.000 It is what it is.
00:51:48.000 You call it Game, playing games, there's a reason why it's called game when you try to pick up a girl.
00:51:52.000 It's always a game.
00:51:53.000 Love is a back and forth.
00:51:54.000 You say it's adversarial, but you are always in competition to some extent.
00:51:57.000 Women will constantly shit test you.
00:51:59.000 They always want to see if you're the man that's capable of leading.
00:52:01.000 They want to see if you're the guy in charge.
00:52:02.000 If you're spending eight years with her all the time, you're going to lose your frame.
00:52:05.000 You're going to lose that masculine essence about you.
00:52:07.000 That's what attracted her to you in the first place.
00:52:10.000 That's not true.
00:52:11.000 Alright, so I think she asked me, but it's okay.
00:52:15.000 My thing is, I say, you don't fall in love with a woman, you have love for a woman.
00:52:18.000 And the reason why I say you don't fall in love is because when a man falls in love, what ends up happening is the rational thought is gone.
00:52:22.000 Now they're acting off of emotion.
00:52:24.000 And the last thing you want to be as a man is acting off of emotion with your woman.
00:52:26.000 That's her job to fall in love and be emotional.
00:52:28.000 Women need that.
00:52:29.000 Men don't need that.
00:52:30.000 Men need to be in a rational mindset at all times, even when dealing with their girl.
00:52:33.000 Because the thing is that when you're with a girl and she does stupid shit or pisses you off or she disobeys you or whatever, you need to be in the rational frame to be like, that wasn't acceptable behavior.
00:52:41.000 This needs to be corrected right now.
00:52:42.000 But you can't operate and tell your girl that if you're in love with her.
00:52:45.000 Right.
00:52:45.000 Don't you feel like guys are so much more logical anyway, just naturally, that it can supersede that?
00:52:52.000 No, because we have feminized men nowadays that think that falling in love is the way to go.
00:52:55.000 And the reality is, no, you don't fall in love.
00:52:56.000 You're not a woman.
00:52:57.000 You need to be the leader in the relationship, always have frame and be the dominant.
00:53:00.000 And to do that, you have to have love for her and not fall in love with her.
00:53:03.000 But guys nowadays are extremely feminized and they think that they can love a woman the same way she loves him.
00:53:07.000 And that's not going to work.
00:53:09.000 Do you want your woman to fall in love with you?
00:53:10.000 Yes, that's how it's gotta go.
00:53:11.000 So then you have to be true to who you actually are and not pretend.
00:53:14.000 You have to be able to be a human and let her love you as a human.
00:53:17.000 Because that's a bigger game.
00:53:18.000 If we can solve your brain and figure out what's actually in your head.
00:53:21.000 So even if you have fantasies about other women, but we can help you become a better man.
00:53:26.000 So that's a better game.
00:53:28.000 That's a better game for us to change.
00:53:30.000 This is why you're wrong.
00:53:31.000 Because women love men opportunistically for what they provide.
00:53:33.000 You wouldn't even give me a chance if I wasn't the man in the first place.
00:53:35.000 Maybe you have to provide more than just finances.
00:53:37.000 You might be able to help me come in and make me a little bit better, but you're not going to make me the man.
00:53:40.000 I was already the man, which is why you fell in love with me in the first place.
00:53:42.000 But if you can't be a man while living with me, are you really the man if you don't have control?
00:53:46.000 What do you mean?
00:53:47.000 I do have control.
00:53:47.000 That's why I'm leaving the house and going to my other one.
00:53:49.000 But you have to leave, so you're running from your own self-control.
00:53:52.000 Oh, that's a nice reframe.
00:53:53.000 I'm not running.
00:53:54.000 I'm choosing to leave because I want to leave and I don't want to be around you all the time.
00:53:56.000 But why do you not have the self-control?
00:53:57.000 It's not about self-control.
00:53:58.000 It's about I know what women are attracted to and I know what's best for the relationship to last.
00:54:01.000 So I'm not going to give my girl all my time and attention at all times because women don't respect that.
00:54:06.000 But you're saying men become weak when they live with their women.
00:54:08.000 They do.
00:54:08.000 Then that's their fault.
00:54:10.000 That's not the woman's fault.
00:54:11.000 That's the man's fault.
00:54:11.000 No, no.
00:54:12.000 But see, here's the thing.
00:54:12.000 You got to set yourself up in an environment to win sometimes.
00:54:15.000 Being around your girl all the time is going to make you softer.
00:54:17.000 There's a reason why men that get married that have kids, their testosterone drops.
00:54:20.000 You have to do things sometimes overtly to make sure that you still maintain the edge.
00:54:24.000 I want to say something.
00:54:25.000 I think the...
00:54:28.000 Well, it happens because when a man is spending the most time with the woman, they're, like, always on their feminine side.
00:54:36.000 Because as a woman, you always want to stay home.
00:54:38.000 Or, well, most of the time you want to stay home and you want to be, like, on your feminine.
00:54:41.000 So if the man is always at home, it's, like, spending, like, it's not, like...
00:54:47.000 They're not complimenting themselves.
00:54:48.000 They're always feminine with the women.
00:54:51.000 So we as women, we always want the masculine side of the men.
00:54:55.000 And we want to see it 100% all the time.
00:54:57.000 So that's why they'll need space and time for themselves to keep that masculine need in.
00:55:04.000 You know what I mean?
00:55:05.000 Can I just, on that note, I think it's this ideology that if you live with your woman, you suddenly have no other outside life and your lives just completely merged together.
00:55:14.000 Both parties should still be independent.
00:55:16.000 You should still have friends.
00:55:18.000 You should still have a job.
00:55:19.000 Like, if you have to travel for work, like, these are other outlets that you're not around just women all the time.
00:55:25.000 Like, you still have male friends.
00:55:27.000 I mean, yes, of course.
00:55:28.000 But if you're living with your partner all the time, You're going to spend most of the time with your partner.
00:55:35.000 That is not true.
00:55:37.000 When you live together with a partner, unless you're literally in New York City in a box with each other, you have different parts of the house you hang out in.
00:55:45.000 Just because you're living together doesn't mean you spend every waking moment together.
00:55:48.000 It's the same space.
00:55:49.000 It doesn't matter.
00:55:50.000 It doesn't mean you're right next to each other.
00:55:51.000 For a healthy relationship...
00:55:53.000 I live in Miami just like you do.
00:55:58.000 You're going to see her, but that's okay.
00:56:00.000 You should be able to be around each other and not be in each other's face 100% of the time.
00:56:03.000 Really basic things like being able to sleep together every day, being able to wake up in the morning and see each other.
00:56:07.000 These are things you can do without encroaching on each other's space.
00:56:09.000 It's a fine thing.
00:56:11.000 You're definitely encroaching on their space and you're sleeping with them every day.
00:56:14.000 It's literally your bed!
00:56:14.000 How?
00:56:15.000 They're right there!
00:56:16.000 What's wrong with it?
00:56:17.000 If they're satisfying you...
00:56:19.000 Again, ladies, ladies, you guys are failing to realize that I'm talking about the man maintaining attraction with the woman.
00:56:25.000 Always being available for your girl is going to make you less attractive.
00:56:29.000 Period.
00:56:30.000 But I mean, I see you're saying we're failing to understand something and other women are just disagreeing and expressing that we're attracted to other things and maybe we fall in this exception.
00:56:40.000 Let me stop you real quick.
00:56:42.000 What women say they're attracted to and what they're aroused by two different things women typically get politically correct answers when it comes to what they're attracted to They will never say the truth about I like you to spank me and you know pull my hair.
00:56:51.000 I want you to choke me Oh, I want you to take Normie.
00:56:54.000 I want you to have other women so that I feel like I'm the one being picked versus that.
00:56:57.000 Women will never actually admit what they're really attracted to and what they're aroused by.
00:57:01.000 You can say that, but you're never going to find women outside of these very hyper-niche red pill spaces that are like, oh yeah, I found a really good guy.
00:57:07.000 He leaves like half the week every week.
00:57:09.000 That's never going to happen.
00:57:12.000 Those relationships don't exist.
00:57:13.000 They don't exist.
00:57:15.000 Those guys just don't have the ability to do so.
00:57:18.000 If most guys don't have the ability to do it, then most relationships aren't like that by default.
00:57:21.000 Most guys don't have the ability to do it, so they have to go ahead and do what?
00:57:23.000 Submit to the woman's will.
00:57:24.000 Live with her, give her all this attention.
00:57:26.000 Why do you say submit to the woman's will?
00:57:27.000 Maybe you both enjoy it.
00:57:28.000 That's not what men are doing.
00:57:30.000 Is that impossible?
00:57:31.000 Honestly, what they're talking about is probably Mercy's subconscious as well.
00:57:33.000 Because, for example, my ex, when he would leave and go away to work somewhere for a week, I would miss him so fucking much.
00:57:39.000 I'm not sure he was gone.
00:57:40.000 Like, so much.
00:57:41.000 And so, like, I see the point.
00:57:43.000 I get what you're saying, Destiny, but it's not like, oh, I'm going to blatantly do this just to avert this reaction.
00:57:48.000 It's just something that naturally happens.
00:57:50.000 But what you're saying is true when people go on trips and stuff, you can do that.
00:57:50.000 Yeah, no, no.
00:57:52.000 But that's different than, like, we've got it structured so I'm gone 180 days of the year.
00:57:56.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:57:57.000 Like, I agree with you in that regard.
00:57:59.000 But psychologically, what they're saying makes sense.
00:58:00.000 No, no, no, no, no, hold on.
00:58:01.000 Psychologically, what I'm saying doesn't make sense because it's a big difference between my man wants to go somewhere for a week because he's got responsibilities or whatever versus I'm putting four days of space between us because I've decided that's what I need to do to make you like me.
00:58:10.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:58:12.000 Planning that, true, but ultimately the outcome is the same when someone is away and you miss them.
00:58:16.000 No, no, no.
00:58:17.000 The same, but okay, again, the intention, I completely agree with what you're saying there.
00:58:23.000 Yes.
00:58:23.000 But it doesn't have to be structured like I'm going to spend exactly...
00:58:26.000 You don't have to write out the calendar days of when you're going to go spend time away.
00:58:29.000 It really doesn't matter how much.
00:58:30.000 If you were to tell your woman, listen, on Saturday, I'm going to leave the house.
00:58:32.000 And she's like, well, what's up?
00:58:33.000 It's like, I just want to get away from you for a day.
00:58:35.000 No, no, you don't say that.
00:58:36.000 You don't say that.
00:58:37.000 So now you're lying about why you're leaving.
00:58:39.000 Here's the thing.
00:58:39.000 You don't explain yourself.
00:58:40.000 That's another thing too.
00:58:41.000 Like, bro, I don't explain myself to women.
00:58:43.000 I'm just going to do this.
00:58:44.000 I'll see you later.
00:58:45.000 I don't sit here and negotiate or any of this stuff.
00:58:45.000 That's it.
00:58:47.000 I'm the leader.
00:58:48.000 She's a subordinate.
00:58:49.000 I don't owe her a fucking answer.
00:58:50.000 It's either she follows into frame or she doesn't.
00:58:52.000 Or the relationship is not going to work.
00:58:53.000 I already know the answer, but just to ask.
00:58:55.000 If the woman said the same thing, she's like, okay, well, I'm going to be gone on Sunday.
00:58:58.000 You would need to know that.
00:59:00.000 Here's the reason why I need to know.
00:59:01.000 I'm the authority in the relationship.
00:59:03.000 I am the leader.
00:59:04.000 I'm the protector.
00:59:04.000 So I must know.
00:59:05.000 Her, on the other hand, she is a subordinate.
00:59:07.000 So therefore, we have different roles in the situation.
00:59:10.000 She must tell me where she's going.
00:59:11.000 I must know because I'm responsible for her safety.
00:59:13.000 She's not responsible for my safety, so I don't have to tell her shit.
00:59:16.000 Are you my parent?
00:59:18.000 Are you my caregiver?
00:59:20.000 No, no, no.
00:59:21.000 But here's the thing.
00:59:23.000 This is where this is coming from.
00:59:24.000 You guys think men and women are equal.
00:59:26.000 I'm saying we're not.
00:59:27.000 At all.
00:59:28.000 Right.
00:59:29.000 She said independent.
00:59:30.000 Like, would they both need to be independent?
00:59:31.000 Absolutely not.
00:59:32.000 The woman should be dependent and the man should be independent.
00:59:34.000 One should be the leader, one should be the follower.
00:59:36.000 Well, I didn't go to law school to be dependent.
00:59:36.000 That's the best thing.
00:59:39.000 I will have my own money.
00:59:40.000 And if a man can't handle that, that's tough.
00:59:43.000 You see the way you're entering the relationship is like, oh, if you're a bitch about it, then I'm like, okay, but it's going to be harder for you to fall in line and be in a relationship than it is for a submissive woman.
00:59:51.000 And that's fine.
00:59:52.000 There's men that exist that value that.
00:59:55.000 Maybe y'all don't.
00:59:58.000 There's probably going to be a submissive man.
01:00:00.000 It's probably not going to be a masculine man.
01:00:02.000 I don't agree with that.
01:00:03.000 I don't agree with that.
01:00:05.000 But all I'm saying is, like I said earlier, I can have my standards, my expectations.
01:00:10.000 I can value what I value.
01:00:11.000 You guys can all value what you value.
01:00:13.000 But you don't need to try to tell me.
01:00:15.000 I'm not trying to tell you that.
01:00:16.000 No, no, no.
01:00:16.000 I know you're not.
01:00:17.000 I'm talking about that in general.
01:00:17.000 Nobody's trying to tell you.
01:00:19.000 Oh, women want to admit.
01:00:20.000 Women say this.
01:00:21.000 I can speak for myself.
01:00:22.000 I have a voice.
01:00:22.000 I'm expressing how I feel.
01:00:23.000 I'm expressing what I think.
01:00:24.000 Yes, Queen.
01:00:25.000 So you speak for all women?
01:00:25.000 I don't need to.
01:00:27.000 No, I don't.
01:00:27.000 I just said.
01:00:29.000 Hold on, hold on.
01:00:31.000 So there, in your own words, you're speaking from a limited perspective because you're only speaking on yourself.
01:00:36.000 I'm speaking for women in general.
01:00:37.000 Women don't like guys that give them too much attention and time.
01:00:41.000 I like guys that give...
01:00:42.000 What you like is irrelevant.
01:00:44.000 I don't give a fuck about your personal experience.
01:00:55.000 I'm talking about women in general.
01:00:57.000 You guys keep saying, me, me, me, me, me.
01:00:59.000 We don't give a fuck about y'all.
01:01:00.000 I'm talking about women in general.
01:01:01.000 This is how it goes.
01:01:02.000 Yeah.
01:01:27.000 And also, I understand that you're a lawyer and you're an independent, and that's fine.
01:01:30.000 Like, I'm not going to tell you to go change that.
01:01:32.000 I'm not a lawyer.
01:01:32.000 I'm a law student.
01:01:33.000 And that's an important distinction because we're not allowed to say that.
01:01:37.000 Okay, sure.
01:01:38.000 Okay.
01:01:38.000 But eventually, it's going to be harder for you to settle down in the future.
01:01:41.000 This is the reason that more people, that more women are single and more men are single is because women are higher anymore at that level.
01:01:46.000 Okay.
01:01:46.000 I'm not afraid of that, though.
01:01:48.000 I don't really care.
01:01:49.000 What you're underestimating is how it's not about spending time away, like allocating out days of the week.
01:01:54.000 It's about how important male camaraderie is.
01:01:56.000 Like, if you think about the happiest state of a man, it's usually like guys will talk about their football team, their fraternity.
01:02:01.000 They'll talk about the friendships that they had when they were living together.
01:02:04.000 And then they'll see each other afterwards after they're married.
01:02:06.000 And then they'll meet at a bar.
01:02:07.000 They're having a beer.
01:02:08.000 They're like, man, you change after I go.
01:02:09.000 Oh, well, the kids.
01:02:10.000 Oh, the wife and the kids.
01:02:11.000 Having that male camaraderie around you is how a man stays on his tip-top shape, and that's in his happiest place.
01:02:17.000 I know that you're trying to call it effeminate and gay, that men want to live together, but having that around you, having that male space around you is extremely important.
01:02:24.000 Also, why are there so many sexist marriages, ladies?
01:02:25.000 Explain that to me.
01:02:26.000 I have sex whenever my man wants it.
01:02:28.000 Why do you keep bringing it back to yourself?
01:02:37.000 A lot of women really like sex.
01:02:45.000 Well, y'all have sex a lot, but the reality is a lot of y'all can't even last long or actually have sex more than two to three times because your dicks get sore or sensitive.
01:02:56.000 She said a lot.
01:02:57.000 She said a lot.
01:02:58.000 She got experience.
01:03:00.000 She said a lot.
01:03:00.000 Ladies, ladies, the fact is this.
01:03:02.000 Why do so many men report sexless marriages?
01:03:05.000 I'm telling you, a big part of it is because they're too well available for their girl and women need to feel that emotional tug.
01:03:10.000 Oh, he's not always here, etc.
01:03:11.000 It makes the heart grow fonder.
01:03:12.000 There's a reason why they say distance makes the heart grow fonder.
01:03:14.000 It's true.
01:03:14.000 Just because you like all that attention and the guy being on top of you doesn't mean that other women do.
01:03:18.000 You can't use your own relationship as the paradigm to base other situations where your situation might not match.
01:03:24.000 I don't know why we're assuming that the sexist stuff is coming from women.
01:03:27.000 A lot of guys these days are jerking off so fucking hard they can't even come from fucking.
01:03:32.000 Destiny, here's an example of what happens when we live with a woman.
01:03:38.000 It happens all the time.
01:03:38.000 It's the guys that are reporting the sexist marriages, though.
01:03:40.000 Here we go.
01:03:41.000 How it started, how it's ending.
01:03:43.000 I'm telling you, bro.
01:03:44.000 You get lazy, you get comfortable, and things start to slack off.
01:03:48.000 And as a man, you need time and space to make yourself more of more value.
01:03:52.000 It happens all the time, man.
01:03:53.000 So what?
01:03:53.000 It has a little...
01:03:54.000 So what?
01:03:55.000 Isn't he happy?
01:03:56.000 He went from healthy to fat.
01:03:59.000 Okay, he has a six-pack.
01:04:00.000 When she gets bored and says, oh, nigga, you fat.
01:04:02.000 No, I'm out.
01:04:03.000 Maybe she likes it.
01:04:05.000 Look how it started.
01:04:06.000 Look how it started.
01:04:09.000 That's what she was attracted to.
01:04:12.000 That's how it started, because she was attracted to that.
01:04:14.000 Now he looks like that.
01:04:15.000 The nigga that looks like that is going to take her from him.
01:04:17.000 And bottom line, she's not going to motivate him to get in the gym.
01:04:20.000 You know who is?
01:04:20.000 If you're living with men, they're going to be like, yo, push-ups right now.
01:04:22.000 Or they're going to be in the gym, yo, let's spar right now.
01:04:24.000 Your girl's going to be like, let's cuddle now.
01:04:27.000 When you love someone, you want them to be their best self.
01:04:29.000 You don't want them to be their best self.
01:04:30.000 If you love someone, you want them to be their best self.
01:04:34.000 If you love someone, you want them to be their best self.
01:04:44.000 If you love someone, you want them to be their best self.
01:04:47.000 One mic at a time.
01:04:54.000 Shout out to Dequan for sending this post from Twitter.
01:04:57.000 But keep in mind, that's only one aspect of what we're seeing.
01:04:59.000 We're just seeing the manifestation of his physical.
01:05:01.000 The mental is as well comfortable and lazy.
01:05:04.000 I'm telling you.
01:05:04.000 It takes time.
01:05:06.000 The physicality is just an outward manifestation of him being lazy.
01:05:08.000 But you were trying to say something?
01:05:09.000 Go ahead.
01:05:10.000 Finish what you're saying.
01:05:11.000 I don't remember.
01:05:12.000 If you love somebody, that looks shouldn't matter.
01:05:15.000 Stupid.
01:05:16.000 No, don't...
01:05:17.000 Okay, so if you love someone and the person kind of gets lazy and get a few pounds and stuff, okay, but it's not like that bad, okay?
01:05:25.000 If he wants to get in shape, you can like motivate him to get in shape because that's what you do.
01:05:29.000 That's what you do when you're in a couple, like you talk and you find solution and you motivate.
01:05:34.000 Okay, so I used to go to the gym and then my man used to...
01:05:41.000 What?
01:05:41.000 I was going to the gym and my man took a little bit of foul and then I motivated him to go to the gym with me.
01:05:47.000 At first he didn't want it to, but then I motivated him.
01:05:52.000 I'm pretty sure that's actually even statistically true.
01:05:54.000 You can look this up.
01:05:55.000 But I'm pretty sure that men in marriages tend to even be healthier than single men.
01:05:59.000 Because wives usually push you to do things like go to the doctor, get a physical, take care of yourself, or like eat healthy.
01:06:03.000 Because men generally don't give a fuck about anything.
01:06:05.000 But that's not the argument though.
01:06:06.000 That is exactly the argument.
01:06:08.000 That being around a woman in that way can keep you healthier to some extent.
01:06:10.000 Relationship-wise, for the man to be missed and be actually longed for, you need that space.
01:06:14.000 But just to answer your point as well, look, listen, I get it.
01:06:16.000 Looks may not matter to you.
01:06:17.000 Once again, most women, how they meet the man is how they want him to end up on the long term.
01:06:21.000 But he's not obese though.
01:06:23.000 It looks like maybe...
01:06:23.000 That wasn't the point, baby.
01:06:25.000 Yeah, but that's what...
01:06:26.000 Well, you guys said he was fat.
01:06:27.000 He's not fat.
01:06:28.000 You know what I mean?
01:06:28.000 He's on the way.
01:06:29.000 We're just saying how you meet somebody is how you want them to be forever.
01:06:33.000 The most part of it.
01:06:34.000 If they change, that's cool and all, but you might be like, damn, it's kind of fat now.
01:06:38.000 And you might say, oh yeah, good workout!
01:06:40.000 But...
01:06:41.000 You said earlier, he didn't want to at the very beginning.
01:06:43.000 Why is that?
01:06:43.000 He's comfortable.
01:06:44.000 He didn't want to.
01:06:45.000 Yeah, men can't be comfortable.
01:06:46.000 Men can't be comfortable.
01:06:48.000 And honestly, ladies, if you're at a point where you got to motivate your man to do shit, you're already lost.
01:06:51.000 I love to motivate my man to do shit because he's going to motivate me to do stuff.
01:06:55.000 This is how a couple work.
01:06:57.000 This is how a couple works.
01:07:01.000 There's a lot of books, personal growth books that literally say that choosing the right partner is really key to that process.
01:07:06.000 But one thing that I will say is when a lot of those books were written, it's a totally different time to what we're in now.
01:07:11.000 And women are very different to how they were back then.
01:07:14.000 So had these same people been writing the books today, maybe they would have written them a little bit differently.
01:07:19.000 No, I think you should still be choosing a partner that generally improves your lives and pushes you to improve.
01:07:23.000 That should absolutely be a key criteria.
01:07:25.000 You both push yourself.
01:07:25.000 This is like an exchange.
01:07:28.000 My point is that it's better to have friends that are pushing you to be better because ultimately men don't really listen to women.
01:07:34.000 We don't want to.
01:07:35.000 We don't want to have you telling us what to do and you don't want to be the one telling us what to do.
01:07:38.000 It's better to hear that advice from other guys who are on the same level.
01:07:41.000 If you are the one that's going to have to tell me the relationship is going to fail, you're going to become unattracted, it's going to be losery.
01:07:46.000 Imagine you telling me, do 10 push-ups.
01:07:49.000 And you're screaming at me, do 10 push-ups.
01:07:50.000 But you know, in a relationship, sometimes you do stuff that you don't want to do because that's compromise.
01:07:54.000 Well, that's how it fails.
01:07:55.000 I would rather not compromise in a relationship at all if I don't have to.
01:07:58.000 But you're going to have to compromise.
01:08:00.000 Love is compromising.
01:08:01.000 For sure, you're going to have to compromise in a relationship.
01:08:03.000 But ideally, you don't.
01:08:04.000 A better relationship is when you're putting your best self forward.
01:08:07.000 Okay, that's an expectation.
01:08:09.000 That's what idealistic means.
01:08:11.000 If you're talking Islam and shit, isn't there like some virtue in holding yourself back from certain things that are haram?
01:08:16.000 That friction that's created in life of you taking a little bit of a step back from things like...
01:08:20.000 What did I say that was haram?
01:08:20.000 No, hold on, hold on.
01:08:21.000 Focus on, use your brain, the whole point of what I'm saying, right?
01:08:23.000 You said haram.
01:08:23.000 There are some things in life that you take a step back from because denying yourself certain pleasures, part of that journey of being a virtuous person is saying, I don't need everything in life.
01:08:31.000 And sometimes there's a little bit of like growth in the struggle.
01:08:33.000 Couldn't you argue the same thing exists in relationships?
01:08:35.000 There is some compromise of love, but the reason why you compromise is because ultimately you're building something that's better than what you would have had, just chasing, I guess, girls on your own.
01:08:41.000 If you want to bring the Quran up, the Quran really values the differences between masculinity and femininity.
01:08:46.000 It tells us to be separate.
01:08:47.000 Women don't stay in the same mosque as men.
01:08:49.000 They're in a different section.
01:08:50.000 They really value men being in tip-top shape at all times and being the leaders and providers.
01:08:54.000 Yeah, but I bet husbands and wives live together in Islam.
01:08:57.000 Not always.
01:08:57.000 Amina.
01:08:58.000 Not always.
01:08:59.000 99% of the time.
01:09:01.000 It's not a requirement.
01:09:03.000 You're saying go by the Quran.
01:09:04.000 There's no verse in the Quran that says you need to live with your wife.
01:09:06.000 No, the reason why I bring up the Quran is because you're trying to make this argument that compromise is bad.
01:09:09.000 But sometimes you compromise on things to build something more than what you could have otherwise.
01:09:13.000 You're doing this workout stuff, right?
01:09:15.000 Going to the gym is a compromise for you.
01:09:16.000 No, it's not.
01:09:17.000 Yes, it is.
01:09:17.000 What am I compromising?
01:09:18.000 You could be eating more fast food.
01:09:19.000 You could be eating more shit.
01:09:20.000 You could be lazy on the couch.
01:09:22.000 You could do other things in life that are more fun.
01:09:23.000 You could be drinking alcohol, but you don't.
01:09:25.000 You go to the gym, you suffer a little bit.
01:09:26.000 You compromise there.
01:09:27.000 So you build a better body and you're healthier.
01:09:28.000 No, no, no.
01:09:29.000 What he's arguing is that it's the man that he doesn't compromise because the woman is what he's saying.
01:09:33.000 It's like he's compromising because it's intrinsic to him as a man.
01:09:35.000 I must suffer and sacrifice certain things to become better.
01:09:39.000 That's fine.
01:09:39.000 It's compromising on his own end.
01:09:41.000 Compromising for a woman's feelings is not the priority for a man.
01:09:44.000 If it's not, that's fine.
01:09:45.000 But then you're not looking for a relationship.
01:09:46.000 Which is fine.
01:09:47.000 If you think a relationship is all compromise, then go ahead.
01:09:49.000 Part of a relationship is a good relationship.
01:09:51.000 Part of it is compromise.
01:09:51.000 That's true in business.
01:09:52.000 You compromise with your business partners.
01:09:54.000 It's true in friendships.
01:09:55.000 You compromise with your friends.
01:09:56.000 What do you want to do tonight?
01:09:57.000 Okay, we'll do this instead.
01:09:58.000 You compromise in every single relationship with family.
01:10:00.000 You do it with family.
01:10:00.000 Why would you not compromise with your...
01:10:02.000 The one has to compromise significantly more than the man does.
01:10:05.000 And it's better for the relationship.
01:10:06.000 The person who compromises more...
01:10:08.000 Here's the thing.
01:10:08.000 The person who compromises more does not have frame.
01:10:12.000 So, in other words, the woman needs to compromise more to the man.
01:10:16.000 I don't even know what that means.
01:10:17.000 I mean, like, both partners should be compromising.
01:10:19.000 Yeah, but the woman to a significant extent more.
01:10:22.000 It's better if the woman fits into the man's frame.
01:10:24.000 That's how it's got to go.
01:10:25.000 The person who compromises more, right, is in a less leveraged position.
01:10:29.000 The person that compromises less...
01:10:30.000 All this thought of like leverage and my partner leaving me immediately if I don't have...
01:10:33.000 It's not that complicated.
01:10:35.000 One is the leader, one is the follower.
01:10:38.000 The follower compromises more.
01:10:39.000 Okay, but this is why like all these women today don't want to date these men is because they believe shit like this.
01:10:44.000 Like most people aren't looking to be...
01:10:48.000 When you're talking to women that are getting degrees and are fucking lawyers and shit, they're not out here looking for a guy to lead them around like their fucking dad.
01:10:53.000 That's not what they're looking for.
01:10:54.000 They want partners in life.
01:10:55.000 They want partners.
01:10:56.000 They become leaders because they can't find leaders.
01:10:58.000 Explain this to me, that if women really want partners, why is that no matter how much money a woman makes, she still wants a guy to make 56% more than her?
01:11:04.000 She does, but that number has been decreasing for the past 20 years.
01:11:06.000 It used to be like 24% of women would be okay with a guy out-earning her, or her out-earning a guy, and that number's gotten increased over time.
01:11:12.000 Here's the difference.
01:11:12.000 Here's the difference, though.
01:11:14.000 When a man makes that money, he doesn't give a fuck what the woman makes, but when the woman makes that money, she does care.
01:11:18.000 That is not true.
01:11:19.000 Men absolutely care.
01:11:20.000 A woman's income?
01:11:21.000 Yes.
01:11:22.000 Really?
01:11:22.000 Yes.
01:11:23.000 So, I'll bring this up.
01:11:24.000 This is something you guys have a really hard time understanding because you guys are all new money, okay?
01:11:27.000 Old money doesn't move like that.
01:11:29.000 Where you say like, I don't care about the woman's education, I don't care about the woman's income, blah, blah, blah.
01:11:32.000 That is absolutely not true.
01:11:34.000 If you go to old money areas where there are wealthy people, they all go to the same schools together, they're in the same clubs together, they're in the same fucking apartment complex here, they live in the same neighbors, and they have the same family friends.
01:11:41.000 There are not rich guys in old money areas that are going to fucking Starbucks to pick up a woman.
01:11:45.000 Now, new money shit...
01:11:46.000 YouTube and actors.
01:11:47.000 That's not a good argument.
01:11:48.000 No, no, no.
01:11:48.000 That's not an argument.
01:11:49.000 That's reality.
01:11:50.000 Old money values education.
01:11:52.000 Old money, of course.
01:11:52.000 You don't see rich Jewish guys getting married to like these random fucking high school girls.
01:11:57.000 They care about the father's money.
01:12:00.000 But also, how did those old money women make money?
01:12:03.000 Their dads.
01:12:04.000 Their family.
01:12:05.000 They weren't out there earning.
01:12:06.000 The point is, we don't care how women earn their money.
01:12:08.000 Of course, they're in those circles because they come from wealthy families.
01:12:10.000 New money people don't, but if you're part of a decent family that's doing well, and you're a well-off guy, and you're going to fucking Harvard or some shit, and you bring home a random woman that you met who's just like some fucking whatever, your family's going to look down at you for that.
01:12:21.000 None of your family's going to be like, oh, that's really cool.
01:12:23.000 Because you're mentioning, here's the thing.
01:12:25.000 You have outside influencers getting into the relationship, but if the guy was left to his own devices, which you're seeing now in modern day, they will go ahead and marry down.
01:12:32.000 Guys are never left to their own devices.
01:12:33.000 No, no, no.
01:12:35.000 Because you're saying old money.
01:12:36.000 The reason old money means it's family lineage and they had money for generations.
01:12:39.000 So they're like, yo, we got to keep wealth in the family.
01:12:41.000 We don't want you to marry some bum off the street.
01:12:43.000 But it's not because the guy didn't want to necessarily do it.
01:12:46.000 It's because they're trying to protect the money and the wealth of the family so they can have generational wealth.
01:12:49.000 But going back now today, guys that make money now, they don't give a shit because men never had an issue with marrying now.
01:12:54.000 Yeah, and what's happening to them?
01:12:55.000 They leave the NBA and they go bankrupt in five years.
01:12:56.000 But that's not the point.
01:12:57.000 No, that is exactly the point.
01:12:58.000 No, no, no.
01:12:59.000 You're changing the goalpost.
01:13:00.000 The argument is that men will date down.
01:13:02.000 Women won't.
01:13:03.000 That's the argument.
01:13:04.000 First of all, women absolutely will.
01:13:06.000 Didn't Britney Spears marry her fucking back-up There are a lot of exceptions to the celebrity world like that.
01:13:06.000 New money, women won't.
01:13:14.000 All I'm saying is that if you are highly educated, you tend to marry highly educated people.
01:13:18.000 If you make a lot of money, you tend to marry people that make a lot of money.
01:13:20.000 People tend to stick with their own.
01:13:21.000 Their same neighborhoods, their same cultural areas, their same income levels, their same education.
01:13:25.000 That's been true of all of human history.
01:13:27.000 It hasn't changed now.
01:13:28.000 People that are super educated don't generally get with people with a high school degree.
01:13:30.000 People that are super wealthy don't generally marry.
01:13:32.000 Now, there are some exceptions, especially the new money world, but in general, people tend to stick with their own.
01:13:35.000 That's like data that's been borne out in every single country since the dawn of fucking time.
01:13:39.000 The point is this.
01:13:40.000 Women will not compromise and date down the same way a man will, is my argument.
01:13:45.000 Okay, men won't date down.
01:13:46.000 Men will date down.
01:13:47.000 No, they won't.
01:13:47.000 They absolutely will.
01:13:48.000 Do it every day.
01:13:48.000 No, they won't.
01:13:49.000 I will.
01:13:50.000 Yeah, because you guys are new money.
01:13:52.000 Bro!
01:13:53.000 But also you want women to be dependent on you.
01:13:56.000 What I'm saying is that most people, most men that are of actual status and have actual background and come from these types of families are not looking to date any random woman.
01:14:03.000 They're looking to date other people that are of similar levels of education and class.
01:14:06.000 But they're going on dates with girls that don't have a title?
01:14:08.000 No, they fucking well.
01:14:09.000 You're not going to find some Harvard lawyer guy who's on a date with a woman that works at Target.
01:14:12.000 That's never going to happen.
01:14:19.000 It's just not true, and if you look at the stats on who people actually marry a dad with, it's not like that.
01:14:24.000 They might not marry her, but they'll give her a chance to date her.
01:14:25.000 They will definitely give her an opportunity.
01:14:26.000 No, they won't.
01:14:26.000 You won't even get a shot with a guy like that.
01:14:28.000 You will never get a shot with a guy like that.
01:14:29.000 Absolutely not.
01:14:31.000 Haven't more humiliated as being created in the last like five years than like ever before in history?
01:14:35.000 They'll divorce a woman with a degree and go find a young girl at Hooters, bro.
01:14:38.000 No, they won't.
01:14:39.000 Yes, they won't.
01:14:40.000 Again, it's like the easiest data-driven argument in the world.
01:14:43.000 Men and women tend to marry in similar backgrounds.
01:14:47.000 But there's a boy or a girl that is lower than them, is my point.
01:14:50.000 They won't.
01:14:50.000 No, they won't.
01:14:51.000 But Destiny, if there's been more millionaires created in the last five years and it's going to continue to do so, then there's going to be more new money than there is old money.
01:14:57.000 So doesn't that make sense that ultimately the culture can change over time and this perception can change over time?
01:15:03.000 I mean, it might change over time, but it hasn't yet.
01:15:05.000 Do you feel like it hasn't changed at all, even a little bit?
01:15:07.000 The needle hasn't moved at all?
01:15:08.000 There's not that many millionaires.
01:15:10.000 I'm not creating my dating standards around millionaires.
01:15:12.000 When I say old money, that doesn't necessarily mean that your family is a billionaire.
01:15:14.000 It just means you're in a well-educated family.
01:15:16.000 Again, these people tend to go to the same grade schools from an early age.
01:15:19.000 They tend to go to similar colleges.
01:15:20.000 They tend to be in similar social circles.
01:15:22.000 You're not getting a lot of crossover from really wealthy families to people that are really poor.
01:15:26.000 They just don't inhabit the same areas.
01:15:27.000 But there's just so many crypto millionaires nowadays, right?
01:15:30.000 And social media people.
01:15:30.000 There's not so many.
01:15:31.000 Well, there's so many people, at least what we see online, right?
01:15:34.000 Well, what you see online, but of course they're the most visible people.
01:15:36.000 But there's not that many crypto millionaires.
01:15:37.000 Okay, crypto millionaires was a bad example, but there's so many people who are making a lot more money than ever before, especially in the online space with the increases in technology.
01:15:45.000 And so what I'm saying is with that, maybe this perception might be changing.
01:15:48.000 It might change, but even in those spaces, my guess is those people are still probably going to tend to date those people.
01:15:52.000 Look how many Twitch streamers date each other.
01:15:53.000 Look how many YouTubers date each other.
01:15:54.000 Look how many people that work in crypto people even to fucking date each other.
01:15:57.000 That's still pretty common.
01:15:58.000 You know crypto millionaires shacking up?
01:16:00.000 What?
01:16:01.000 You know crypto millionaires getting married?
01:16:03.000 That was a poor example, by the way.
01:16:05.000 I'm saying that these people tend to all hang out in their own fucking circles.
01:16:08.000 They go on retreats together and shit.
01:16:10.000 They go on all these little fucking cruises and shit.
01:16:12.000 They all tend to be with their own type of people.
01:16:13.000 Maybe in your circle, but that's just not your...
01:16:15.000 It's true of all of human society and all of human history.
01:16:17.000 You can say my circle, but you're not going to talk about that.
01:16:20.000 People hang around their circles, but what matters more to a man is a woman who's going to fall into his frame.
01:16:24.000 That comes first before any of that stuff.
01:16:26.000 It doesn't really matter.
01:16:27.000 The man thinks the woman is on his row.
01:16:29.000 It's...
01:16:30.000 Men historically have always been okay with dating a woman below their own economic status and social status.
01:16:35.000 Below economic status, sure, but that's not always how value is measured for a woman.
01:16:39.000 You said it yourself.
01:16:40.000 A guy's not dating down because he sees a woman with less money because he's not dating down to the guy.
01:16:44.000 He's not selecting for that strategy, right?
01:16:46.000 But I'm talking about from a socioeconomic standpoint, he's dating down.
01:16:49.000 Okay, but in that case, women always date down because women are always prettier than men.
01:16:52.000 You see how reductive that is?
01:16:53.000 Because you would say that women are more attractive than men.
01:16:55.000 I specify a socioeconomic status.
01:16:56.000 I didn't say it from a beauty standard, I said socioeconomically.
01:17:01.000 That's fine.
01:17:01.000 But if I use your argument, I say, well, from looks, women are always dating down.
01:17:04.000 But the smart answer is you say, well, they're not dating down.
01:17:07.000 They're just selecting for something different.
01:17:08.000 Much like the guy is selecting for something different, right?
01:17:10.000 You always make this argument that women are hypergamous.
01:17:12.000 Does that mean that men are hypogamous or hypogamous?
01:17:14.000 They're always selecting for lower?
01:17:15.000 Well, sure, because it doesn't make sense, right?
01:17:18.000 If hypergamy exists, hyper, meaning choosing up, that means that men must necessarily be hypogamous, choosing down.
01:17:23.000 Do they do that?
01:17:25.000 No, Destiny.
01:17:27.000 Destiny, you're not making sense.
01:17:31.000 If women are dating up, then men must be dating down.
01:17:34.000 Women are dating up socioeconomically and status-wise is what I tried to say.
01:17:38.000 And I qualify that by saying socioeconomically clearly.
01:17:40.000 I didn't mention looks or anything like that.
01:17:42.000 Now, you went ahead and switched to, oh, but if the girl's prettier than the guy, is she dating down?
01:17:46.000 Whatever.
01:17:46.000 Well, looks are subjective.
01:17:47.000 Success isn't.
01:17:48.000 If you're a millionaire, everyone knows your fucking millionaire is successful.
01:17:50.000 That's irrefutable.
01:17:51.000 Beauty, however, is subjective.
01:17:52.000 So that's why I didn't use the beauty standard.
01:17:53.000 I used the socioeconomic standard.
01:17:55.000 Okay, you'd say beauty is subjective, but I'm pretty sure we could all agree with some pretty concrete things.
01:18:01.000 Yes, there are some broad beauty standards, but what I'm saying is that I use socioeconomic status because that's easy to quantify.
01:18:06.000 Sure.
01:18:07.000 But then again, I will retreat back to the stats that if you look, people in the top quintile tend to marry people in the top quintile, people in the top...
01:18:12.000 The 20%, 20%, 20%, they all date each other.
01:18:14.000 That's typically how it goes.
01:18:15.000 It's not all these poor women that are married.
01:18:17.000 You're talking about marrying specifically.
01:18:18.000 If you're a Rothschild, you're going to want to marry someone that's on your level.
01:18:20.000 I'm not talking about just banging random chicks.
01:18:22.000 Anybody will fucking fuck anybody.
01:18:23.000 We're talking about old money.
01:18:24.000 The girl's dad is the one who has the money.
01:18:26.000 Women are typically feminine and they're not career driven because they don't have to be.
01:18:30.000 It depends on the community.
01:18:31.000 They can absolutely be career driven.
01:18:33.000 I have family that's old money because of El Salvador.
01:18:35.000 I think I understand that more.
01:18:37.000 Yeah, you date in your circle, but the women aren't trying to be lawyers and all this.
01:18:41.000 Daddy has the money.
01:18:42.000 So if they're marrying within the family due to finances, my father has the money, not the woman.
01:18:48.000 My dad literally has the money and I'm trying to be a lawyer.
01:18:51.000 So that refutes your exact point.
01:18:53.000 Are you holding money?
01:18:54.000 Are you part of a society that helped build?
01:18:57.000 What he's talking about, old money is education level, and I'm a second generation lawyer, so by that standard, yes.
01:19:03.000 So that's...
01:19:03.000 Men that are successful and have wealth and have education aren't raising daughters just to be little, like, wives.
01:19:10.000 They're raising them to be also successful and to have autonomy and to be able to do things in the world.
01:19:14.000 That's how those men move.
01:19:16.000 Hmm.
01:19:17.000 But who's going to command more attention and value in the sexual marketplace?
01:19:20.000 A male lawyer or a female lawyer?
01:19:22.000 The male lawyer is going to command more sexual attention because women care about a man's title, socioeconomic status, earning capacity, etc.
01:19:28.000 Her, right, being a lawyer is not going to carry the same value as a man being a lawyer.
01:19:32.000 And it depends on the types of guys she's looking for.
01:19:34.000 Not the guys that are just looking for a 20-year-old fuckable bang mate, sure.
01:19:37.000 But, like, if she's, like, at a fucking law firm somewhere, she's probably going to be hit on, like, a fuck dog because it's going to be 90% lawyers there.
01:19:42.000 Yeah, they'll hit on her and they'll hit on another girl that works at Starbucks that's 19.
01:19:45.000 Sure they will, but they'd rather marry her.
01:19:48.000 Absolutely.
01:19:49.000 You're a lawyer, a lawyer, a law firm?
01:19:50.000 Who are you going to bring home to your family?
01:19:52.000 This girl that I met at Starbucks?
01:19:53.000 Or a girl that's working at my fucking law firm?
01:19:55.000 Who do mom and dad want to see more of her?
01:19:56.000 Her being a lawyer isn't as high on the totem pole to make her attractive.
01:19:59.000 Versus a man being a lawyer, that's going to be extremely high on a woman's totem pole of being attractive.
01:20:04.000 I disagree.
01:20:04.000 Like, what, you disagree that a male lawyer has more sexual market value than a female lawyer?
01:20:08.000 It depends on where you're at.
01:20:09.000 Like, for instance, like, do you think a computer programming woman has high sexual value?
01:20:13.000 You can say no, but put her in a college where it's 99% men or women in the army, right?
01:20:17.000 By the time you graduate from college with your law degree, et cetera, let's say you've got a 30-year-old male lawyer, you've got a 30-year-old female lawyer.
01:20:23.000 The 30-year-old male lawyer is going to be much more attractive than that 30-year-old female lawyer.
01:20:28.000 And the reason why is because that man has more options than that woman.
01:20:30.000 Sure, broadly speaking.
01:20:31.000 But the options that that woman is losing are people she wouldn't want to date anyway.
01:20:34.000 But those men are now being ostracized because of her status.
01:20:38.000 Had she not been a lawyer, she would have had more options.
01:20:40.000 That's true.
01:20:40.000 But the options that she's losing are probably options she wouldn't want to be with anyway.
01:20:45.000 No, if her status was lower, she wouldn't care.
01:20:46.000 Well, but her status isn't lower.
01:20:48.000 She's a lawyer.
01:20:48.000 If a woman is a lawyer at 30, and there are some guys that don't want to date her because she's a lawyer, she would never want to be with those guys.
01:20:53.000 That's the whole point.
01:20:54.000 So she's effectively lowered her own ability to get a mate because of her success.
01:20:58.000 That's what I'm trying to say.
01:20:59.000 You say lower ability.
01:21:00.000 When I go on Tinder and I say, no crackheads, I'm lowering my options too.
01:21:15.000 We got 20,000 watching on YouTube right now.
01:21:33.000 We're going to read statements.
01:21:35.000 When a woman gets married, it gets a ring, it doesn't mean a thing because her holes are still wide open.
01:21:39.000 Okay, appreciate that.
01:21:41.000 Christopher Harris goes, I know you're friends with Sneeko.
01:21:44.000 Even, I like them.
01:21:45.000 But he has constantly been digging himself in stupid holes.
01:21:47.000 Arola was 100% correct.
01:21:48.000 Sneeko has not read the rational mail.
01:21:50.000 Talk about arguing.
01:21:51.000 What was he correct about?
01:21:52.000 Tell me exactly what he was right about because I don't even know.
01:21:55.000 Harris, follow up and let us know.
01:21:56.000 With another $100 donor.
01:21:59.000 Aside that, since Destiny befriended Sneeko, influenced him enough to have a bad take on this low IQ take, Sneeko needs to stop hanging out with Destiny.
01:22:06.000 We disagreed this whole show so far.
01:22:07.000 Guys, you gotta clarify specifically what y'all mean.
01:22:09.000 Yo, when only Fresh was on your side at the end, you lost, bro.
01:22:11.000 Even Fresh knows that.
01:22:12.000 I'm talking about the last show.
01:22:13.000 Okay.
01:22:14.000 A fresh man goes, why is it that when women are alone, they act masculine, but when men are alone, they don't act feminine?
01:22:20.000 Interesting.
01:22:22.000 Christopher Harris, I'm glad that Rolo got on because it exposed how stupid chat can be.
01:22:25.000 Okay?
01:22:26.000 Charlie, or Camp to Times, goes, Nico and Zena sitting in the tree.
01:22:34.000 Charlotte Katori goes, Rolo's tweet flew over everyone's head.
01:22:36.000 His tweet was to spark the question, what's a high-value man to you?
01:22:39.000 Therefore, he couldn't answer that question in this context since that would defeat the point of the tweet.
01:22:43.000 Thank you.
01:22:44.000 Common sense is common with Charlotte.
01:22:46.000 Okay.
01:22:47.000 Lepercoon, Destiny, your wife slept over last night and she didn't say anything about you.
01:22:53.000 You have anything you want to say back to him?
01:22:54.000 Hey, it's a nice job, dude.
01:22:55.000 I think just so everyone, because you're in an open relationship with your wife, right?
01:22:58.000 Like, both of you guys do what you guys want, right?
01:22:59.000 That's correct, yeah.
01:23:00.000 It don't matter.
01:23:01.000 So the panel knows.
01:23:02.000 To them.
01:23:03.000 You should bring Dante Nero on the show.
01:23:05.000 Look him up, yo.
01:23:06.000 Friends with the late Patrice O'Neal.
01:23:07.000 Hey, Patrice gave some bad advice.
01:23:09.000 Josh Miso.
01:23:10.000 You follow his bad advice.
01:23:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:23:12.000 Nice last show, guys.
01:23:14.000 Lestini and Deco proved why they're low value to us.
01:23:17.000 No respect from the jump.
01:23:18.000 Deco?
01:23:19.000 Unable to understand.
01:23:19.000 No experience or wisdom.
01:23:21.000 What does Deco mean?
01:23:22.000 Lestini and Deco.
01:23:23.000 Like, you swept around your guys' things.
01:23:25.000 What the fuck?
01:23:26.000 Okay.
01:23:27.000 Always happy to see Myron's wife outside of Fetit.
01:23:29.000 W Peanut Butter.
01:23:31.000 Thanks, guys.
01:23:32.000 Rufix Legacy Production goes first time.
01:23:34.000 Super chatting.
01:23:34.000 Watch y'all since 2020.
01:23:36.000 Always good to not just have a motherfucker run the show.
01:23:38.000 Myron and Fresh.
01:23:39.000 Oh, Myron and Fresh.
01:23:40.000 Okay.
01:23:41.000 Y'all can bump heads about topics and still respect one another, which is all that matters.
01:23:44.000 Okay.
01:23:45.000 Yeah, we disagree.
01:23:46.000 We don't need to be douche-nozzles.
01:23:47.000 What up, Sneeko?
01:23:48.000 Blue hair, you soft as a baby food.
01:23:50.000 Go home.
01:23:50.000 Hey, what's up, man?
01:23:52.000 Okay, Billy Cho goes, ladies, do you want to have work during and after having children to pay significant bills in a relationship?
01:23:59.000 If no, why do a majority of women prioritize their careers over finding a high-income man?
01:24:02.000 Real quick for the ladies.
01:24:03.000 After you have children, would you guys want to pay a significant amount of the bills?
01:24:06.000 Raise your hands if it's a yes.
01:24:08.000 Be honest.
01:24:08.000 Okay, nobody.
01:24:12.000 Why not even the lawyer?
01:24:14.000 Come on, Mamma's career!
01:24:16.000 It's not that I have a preference, but the basic ideology of it that I think of it as is that I still want to marry a man that is able to still provide the life that I'm accustomed to, and that's able to provide that for my children.
01:24:32.000 So if I have kids, I would want the option to not work anymore, and I would be with the man that could provide that opportunity to me.
01:24:39.000 That's essentially what happened with my parents.
01:24:41.000 My mom worked.
01:24:42.000 She had kids.
01:24:42.000 My dad was like, you don't have to work anymore if you don't want to.
01:24:44.000 She stopped working.
01:24:45.000 She was a stay-at-home mom.
01:24:46.000 I've said that before.
01:24:47.000 Women always want to be able to reserve the right to not work if they don't want to.
01:24:49.000 At all times.
01:24:50.000 That's why that's typically what they want in a man.
01:24:53.000 Blue hair needs to be deported.
01:24:55.000 Holla.
01:24:56.000 Okay.
01:24:57.000 Yves Simonis.
01:24:57.000 Make no mistake.
01:24:58.000 This is the official rating and one hour out call rates for tonight's episode.
01:25:01.000 So ladies, he's going to rate you guys what he thinks and then what he would pay you for sex.
01:25:04.000 What the...
01:25:04.000 He gave Angie a $9,000.
01:25:07.000 Nice, Myron.
01:25:07.000 Thanks, bro.
01:25:08.000 Gabby, $4,000.
01:25:10.000 Zaria, $3,000.
01:25:12.000 Stephanie, $4,000.
01:25:13.000 Nina, $600.
01:25:15.000 Amy, $4,000.
01:25:17.000 Dom, $4,000.
01:25:19.000 Zena, $9,000.
01:25:21.000 Back off.
01:25:22.000 She got dressed up just for this moment.
01:25:24.000 And then Akalia, or Akala, $5,000.
01:25:28.000 Okay, so that's what he rates you guys on what he would pay y'all for sex.
01:25:32.000 Oh, he put his IG in there.
01:25:33.000 He's really about it.
01:25:35.000 That's so weird, bro.
01:25:36.000 He paid $100 to say that.
01:25:38.000 Who's first delirium goes, for everyone on the panel, are you aware of doublespeak in the English language?
01:25:43.000 The word queen is slang for queen, an impudent or ill-behaved girl or woman, a prostitute.
01:25:51.000 One Neo Lean goes, Sneeko, you were on a bed with your girl.
01:25:55.000 You stated, cared about you as she was getting smashed.
01:25:59.000 Most beta moment and fresher foot say nothing.
01:26:01.000 Although they do say a lot.
01:26:02.000 Trust me.
01:26:02.000 How about you, man?
01:26:04.000 Trust me.
01:26:04.000 Look at that laugh.
01:26:05.000 How about you, man?
01:26:07.000 Dr.
01:26:07.000 Phil had three vasectomies and a child after each reversal.
01:26:10.000 No experience in marriage slash kids.
01:26:11.000 Why are you talking?
01:26:12.000 You have anything you want to say back to him?
01:26:13.000 Okay, if you want to get a vasectomy, go ahead.
01:26:15.000 But I just don't think that's good for the future generation of men.
01:26:17.000 And we disagree.
01:26:18.000 I think that's the best way to fight the global agenda is have a bunch of kids.
01:26:21.000 They don't want you to have kids.
01:26:22.000 They don't want you to have a family.
01:26:23.000 They don't want you to be scared about climate change.
01:26:24.000 You are buying into the big elite psyop by getting a vasectomy.
01:26:28.000 Go ahead.
01:26:28.000 All right.
01:26:30.000 Spy Guacos.
01:26:31.000 Sneeko is a leaf in the wind.
01:26:33.000 Remind him, Fred.
01:26:35.000 Tell me you still are not even clear.
01:26:38.000 If I'm a leaf in the wind, you can't even answer a specific question.
01:26:41.000 I did answer it.
01:26:42.000 You dived that question like a politician.
01:26:45.000 Answered it correctly.
01:26:45.000 It's a yes or no.
01:26:46.000 No, it's not.
01:26:47.000 You would have gotten Frank Castled if you were a girl.
01:26:48.000 No, it's not.
01:26:51.000 I answered a question.
01:26:52.000 We both did.
01:26:53.000 You didn't like the answer.
01:26:54.000 That's what it was.
01:26:54.000 It's a yes or no question.
01:26:55.000 No, it's not.
01:26:56.000 I asked you a yes or no question.
01:26:58.000 I said yes or no.
01:26:59.000 And ask John, 50 bucks.
01:27:00.000 They only bring confusion and instability to the show.
01:27:04.000 These guys can never focus on one topic at a time.
01:27:06.000 They're all over the place.
01:27:06.000 Now, we are pretty set on the topics so far.
01:27:09.000 Why are men who want women getting relationship advice from a fruity blueberry thought?
01:27:17.000 Okay, and then Dana goes, Myron and Sneeko, may Allah guide you to the right path.
01:27:21.000 All love, brothers from Qatar.
01:27:23.000 Question for the men.
01:27:23.000 What is their age range to have kids for men?
01:27:27.000 I mean, 30s, 40s, I would say.
01:27:30.000 That's the best.
01:27:30.000 Financially stable.
01:27:31.000 It's a big range.
01:27:32.000 Yeah, it depends on the guy, but I would say...
01:27:34.000 Focus on yourself first.
01:27:35.000 Y'all already know what I think as far as the five things you need to have in place.
01:27:37.000 What do you think, Fresh?
01:27:39.000 That's good.
01:27:40.000 Because I think at that point, you're more mature.
01:27:42.000 You can also as well handle or provide for your family.
01:27:44.000 You want to ask the girls?
01:27:46.000 Well, biologically, you cannot pass the 35, I think.
01:27:50.000 No, for men.
01:27:51.000 Yes, because the sperm just goes...
01:27:54.000 That's not true.
01:27:55.000 Robert De Niro just had a hit.
01:27:56.000 He's 79.
01:27:57.000 But it increases the risk of deformity or problems with the child.
01:28:00.000 Is that true?
01:28:01.000 I could be wrong, but I think the sperm count will decrease, but I don't think that if you inseminate, I don't think it's actually different.
01:28:07.000 I mean, honestly speaking, I came out fine.
01:28:29.000 I'm sorry, I'll try to be more of my feminine energy.
01:28:36.000 Scott Aragon, I don't understand how Destiny is on here when he has no merit to try and tell other men how to become better when he takes the D. He's out of shape.
01:28:43.000 His own wife doesn't even respect him.
01:28:44.000 No man is trying to better themselves would listen to this.
01:28:47.000 What do you think?
01:28:48.000 I'm pretty sure if you polled 99% of women, they would agree with most of what I say.
01:28:52.000 If you're talking shit like if you go to a college campus or anywhere in the United States and you're like, would you not want to live with your man because he's trying to stay away from you to drive your desire up for him?
01:29:01.000 95% of women would be like, fuck that.
01:29:03.000 And not only would they say that, if they were in those relationships, they would quit after a month or two.
01:29:07.000 He plays too many games.
01:29:08.000 What women want and what women need are completely different.
01:29:11.000 No, they're not.
01:29:13.000 Probably you're through, but long term, they're not going to respect you.
01:29:17.000 You're just wrong.
01:29:18.000 I don't know what to say.
01:29:19.000 No woman is going to respect a guy that has to leave the house to create space and create a trap.
01:29:28.000 This is why women shouldn't vote.
01:29:30.000 This is why women deserve less.
01:29:31.000 Which means they deserve less of their men living with them.
01:29:34.000 Right, Mario?
01:29:35.000 Yeah, broken source.
01:29:36.000 So, Destiny, I gotta ask you this then.
01:29:39.000 Because you have an open relationship with your girl, etc.
01:29:44.000 And you could do what you want and your girl could do what she wants.
01:29:47.000 Do you think that's like, a lot of guys want that though, realistically?
01:29:50.000 No, I don't recommend my lifestyle for most people.
01:29:52.000 Yeah, because I think if anything, guys would want to be open on their end, but they would want their girl closed.
01:29:56.000 Sure, but that's also something that very few, if any, people can do.
01:29:58.000 Most women won't go for that.
01:30:00.000 99% of women won't go for that.
01:30:01.000 I respectfully disagree.
01:30:03.000 I think if the guy's value is high enough, she will absolutely be okay with that.
01:30:06.000 No, absolutely not.
01:30:07.000 Absolutely not.
01:30:08.000 Most women, if you ask most women, even if you ask a lot of, unless you're talking about being a billionaire or something, most women would not share a high value.
01:30:15.000 But they want a minute, but by default, when they meet the guy, you know what?
01:30:19.000 This makes sense.
01:30:19.000 Nope.
01:30:20.000 As soon as he starts cheating, she's fucking gone.
01:30:22.000 One million percent.
01:30:22.000 She's gonna destroy your shit.
01:30:24.000 She's gonna find the valuable shit in the living room, she's gonna break it, and then she's gonna fucking leave.
01:30:27.000 Hold on, ladies.
01:30:29.000 Let me ask you this.
01:30:30.000 Let me ask a question, ladies.
01:30:31.000 Just raise your hands.
01:30:32.000 Would you be okay with your guy stepping out from time to time and having sex with another girl if he provided for you, he was wealthy and attractive and checked all your boxes?
01:30:41.000 Raise your hands.
01:30:42.000 Raise your hands.
01:30:42.000 How many would be okay with that?
01:30:43.000 Three?
01:30:45.000 Okay, the rest of you?
01:30:45.000 Okay, four?
01:30:49.000 Can we have a threesome instead?
01:30:51.000 That's a possibility, yeah.
01:30:52.000 Hold on.
01:30:54.000 Threesome is way different.
01:30:55.000 If you're in a threesome, you're not in a one-sided open relationship.
01:30:57.000 You have threesomes with your partner.
01:30:59.000 That's a totally different thing.
01:31:00.000 It's still having sex with another woman.
01:31:02.000 Absolutely not.
01:31:02.000 If you're a guy that has threesomes, you're not in a one-sided open relationship.
01:31:06.000 You have threesomes with your partner.
01:31:07.000 It's a totally different thing.
01:31:09.000 Most girls, you've said this yourself, are fake lesbians.
01:31:12.000 Sure, but they're doing it for their men.
01:31:14.000 The difference between, like, the amount of women that would be okay with a one-sided over relationship is like 1%.
01:31:18.000 The amount of women that would be okay with like three sons is probably like 20%.
01:31:21.000 That's a way different type of thing.
01:31:22.000 The point is that, you know, then we don't even have to add or vote.
01:31:24.000 Four girls here at the table, I would argue that 50%, if not more, of women would accept the guy and accept him having other women if he took care of everything else and his value was high enough.
01:31:33.000 That's my point.
01:31:34.000 They will accept it if you're high enough.
01:31:35.000 From an average guy, maybe not.
01:31:36.000 But if your vibe is high enough, a girl will absolutely accept that.
01:31:38.000 If you're picking a girl low enough, maybe.
01:31:40.000 What do you mean by low enough?
01:31:41.000 As in, if she's like a brokie that you're saving from the fucking slums or some shit, and you're taking her to Beverly Hills or something, maybe, sure.
01:31:48.000 But if you find another girl in Beverly Hills, she's not going to do it.
01:31:50.000 I don't think that's what it is, because oftentimes these guys end up cheating, and so they're not having this direct conversation like, hey, I'm going to go and do this, but oftentimes the woman ends up forgiving because they love and respect that man.
01:32:01.000 And so oftentimes it's not a conversation beforehand, but this is what ends up happening in a lot of relationships.
01:32:06.000 And he's going to cheat anyway, so...
01:32:09.000 Cheating is one of the, it's like one of the top three reasons why relationships end though.
01:32:12.000 Not all men cheats.
01:32:14.000 Yeah, but not all.
01:32:15.000 Most do.
01:32:16.000 I feel like in the US, you have like this hookup culture when all the, like all the girls trying to find excuses for men to cheat.
01:32:25.000 That's weird.
01:32:26.000 In Europe, it's different.
01:32:28.000 They still cheat in Europe.
01:32:28.000 I'm pretty sure parents have the highest infidelity rate.
01:32:30.000 But they don't tell you.
01:32:31.000 No, but they do for sure.
01:32:33.000 Everybody cheats, right?
01:32:34.000 But I feel like it's less because in the US, it's acceptable to cheat.
01:32:38.000 You know what's funny about this whole topic here?
01:32:40.000 Women will say, okay, I want to share my man.
01:32:42.000 Then he cheats.
01:32:43.000 They leave him.
01:32:43.000 And they go to another man.
01:32:44.000 He's going to cheat too.
01:32:45.000 Even in the US, that's not true.
01:32:48.000 They say it here, but in the US, not all men cheat.
01:32:50.000 That's an insane proposition.
01:32:52.000 Yeah, you're right.
01:32:52.000 Not all men cheat, but the majority do.
01:32:54.000 Yeah, but not all.
01:32:56.000 But not all of them.
01:32:57.000 I don't even think the majority of men cheat.
01:32:59.000 That's a wild...
01:33:00.000 First of all, actually, you know what?
01:33:02.000 I know this isn't true because for a man to cheat, you almost have to be high status to do it.
01:33:05.000 It's pretty hard for a man to cheat.
01:33:06.000 That is not true.
01:33:07.000 That is absolute...
01:33:08.000 Hold on, hold on.
01:33:09.000 No, no, that's true, for sure.
01:33:10.000 Most of us just pay hookers, bro.
01:33:12.000 Yeah.
01:33:12.000 That cheat.
01:33:13.000 Most of us...
01:33:13.000 Wait, how many do you think it's...
01:33:14.000 Okay, wait, okay, we'll play this game.
01:33:16.000 What percentage of men in relation to you think pay hookers to cheat?
01:33:19.000 If you had to guess it, if you had to ballpark it.
01:33:21.000 I think most men cheat.
01:33:24.000 No, no, but I want to hear the prostitute thing.
01:33:26.000 I think single guys go to prostitute.
01:33:28.000 No, no, but they're saying in relationships, most men will pay a prostitute.
01:33:30.000 Even if they're not going to prostitutes, you said it earlier, they'll end up watching porn.
01:33:34.000 They're going to try to find a way to exercise.
01:33:35.000 You talk about moving goalposts?
01:33:37.000 You went from fucking a prostitute to watching porn?
01:33:39.000 My point is that they always want to go and exercise options.
01:33:41.000 Men want variety.
01:33:42.000 That's important.
01:33:43.000 I don't know how many.
01:33:44.000 Maybe it's like five, ten percent.
01:33:46.000 But if they're not paying prostitutes, they're watching porn, they're watching weird anime, they have a weird hard job.
01:33:50.000 There are significantly more women that are okay with their boyfriend watching porn than seven hundred fucking other people.
01:33:54.000 But to Snickle's point, if the man couldn't have sex, he would.
01:33:56.000 But he's watching porn because he can't.
01:33:57.000 He's settling.
01:33:57.000 And actually, I think women fight in a different way.
01:34:01.000 They're scratching that itch for variety.
01:34:03.000 I think women have an itch for variety too, if you want to put it that way.
01:34:08.000 I would argue the more a woman loves her man, the less itch she has for variety.
01:34:14.000 But the less she likes her guy, the more itch she has for variety.
01:34:16.000 If the guy accomplishes a lot of the things on her checkbox, she doesn't need to go to another guy.
01:34:21.000 Yeah, but if you're saying it's totally opposite for men with a woman, it's so asymmetric.
01:34:25.000 Yeah, because men and women are not the same.
01:34:27.000 I never said they were the same.
01:34:28.000 They're obviously not the same.
01:34:30.000 Yeah.
01:34:30.000 But most women, if they're going to be loyal to a man, would expect the man to be loyal to her.
01:34:33.000 That's part of the relationship.
01:34:34.000 But she won't leave her for not being...
01:34:36.000 She will.
01:34:36.000 She probably will.
01:34:37.000 If the guy's value is high enough, no.
01:34:38.000 No, it's not if the value is high enough, it's if the difference is high enough.
01:34:42.000 If it's a decently valuable woman from a high social status and circle, and a decently valuable man, if he cheats, she's going to leave.
01:34:46.000 I mean, you can make the argument Beyonce didn't go anywhere when Jay-Z cheated on her.
01:34:49.000 She's high status.
01:34:50.000 Yeah, but didn't Beyonce cheat on Jay-Z too?
01:34:52.000 No.
01:34:52.000 Don't these guys, like, fuck around like crazy?
01:34:53.000 I'm pretty sure with celebrities, I think they're all...
01:34:55.000 Even Bezos was in, like, an open relationship.
01:34:57.000 It's even worse.
01:34:57.000 When a woman has more status, it actually hurts her ability to find another partner.
01:35:00.000 She can't go nowhere.
01:35:01.000 She becomes a prisoner of success.
01:35:03.000 Men become free from success.
01:35:04.000 Women become prisoners of their success.
01:35:06.000 I don't think that's true at all.
01:35:07.000 What?
01:35:08.000 Dude, the more money a woman makes and the more status she acquires, the less candidates she has in her pool.
01:35:12.000 Yeah, but that's because she usually wants less candidates.
01:35:15.000 This is something you guys have really had time understanding.
01:35:16.000 Women, you guys are taking this from the perspective that men just need a woman to be in a relationship with.
01:35:21.000 And so you assume that women should be the same way, but that's not true.
01:35:23.000 Women are looking for a man that adds value to their life.
01:35:25.000 And you're trying to say the value proposition is because you can't think of a single way to move in a relationship where women like you.
01:35:29.000 So it's got to be this huge value proposition of dollars.
01:35:32.000 But there has to be another way for men to appeal to women than just making more money.
01:35:35.000 No, we mentioned there's a bunch.
01:35:36.000 Having charisma, having game, having frame.
01:35:38.000 But not for more than four days a week.
01:35:40.000 Because that's how you maintain attraction.
01:35:42.000 Okay, I disagree.
01:35:44.000 Bro, to get a woman to be loyal to you and love you and be submissive to you, you must maintain attraction.
01:35:49.000 To maintain attraction, being available is a critical component of that.
01:35:53.000 I disagree, but we're just gonna go back and forth.
01:35:54.000 I feel like for a man to make a lot of money, oftentimes he needs to work on his character, right?
01:35:58.000 He needs to work on his discipline.
01:35:59.000 He needs to work on his leadership.
01:36:00.000 These are skills that are very attractive to women that are naturally a byproduct of making a lot of money, oftentimes.
01:36:05.000 That's true, but men that have those skills and not the money can also fuck through a lot of women.
01:36:09.000 There are a lot of guys that are really charismatic, super fuckboy, but they're not even that successful.
01:36:12.000 They can absolutely fuck through a ton of women.
01:36:15.000 Some people can fake it, for sure.
01:36:16.000 They can smash, but can they retain long-term?
01:36:19.000 Probably not.
01:36:20.000 Well, yeah, but isn't that what you guys are all about anyway?
01:36:21.000 Just smashing and not...
01:36:23.000 Who said that?
01:36:24.000 Just smashing through a ton of women and not having to deal with relationships?
01:36:27.000 If you want to, you can, but you don't have to.
01:36:29.000 But I'm saying that guy doesn't even necessarily have to be high value.
01:36:32.000 It just has to be a good game.
01:36:33.000 Ultimately, it's the choice you make when you become successful with what you want to do.
01:36:37.000 Some more chats here?
01:36:38.000 Yeah.
01:36:40.000 Let's see here.
01:36:41.000 Destiny is a cuck.
01:36:43.000 He goes, Destiny is literally a crypto-Jesuit with brainlit-tier arguments and got dominated by Ryan Dawson so hard, he literally cries every time he's mentioned.
01:36:52.000 I hope LAV wins the league.
01:36:54.000 You're into D4. Who's LAV? Who's that?
01:36:56.000 Long story.
01:36:56.000 Don't worry about it.
01:36:57.000 Okay.
01:36:58.000 My girl's having trouble sleeping when I'm not in the same bed with her.
01:37:02.000 What does it mean, though?
01:37:03.000 Am I in trouble?
01:37:04.000 That's a good sign, my friend.
01:37:05.000 That's great.
01:37:06.000 She's attracted.
01:37:07.000 She's in love with you.
01:37:08.000 Yeah.
01:37:08.000 Finally caught a live stream.
01:37:09.000 Chris is a bum.
01:37:10.000 FNF. Keep doing the thing.
01:37:11.000 City boys, we up.
01:37:13.000 I want to open it up to the ladies.
01:37:15.000 Did y'all have a question for any of us or a topic that y'all wanted to discuss?
01:37:18.000 Zina?
01:37:19.000 You got something?
01:37:20.000 I saw you.
01:37:21.000 No?
01:37:22.000 Not yet.
01:37:23.000 Y'all were being argumentative earlier.
01:37:24.000 We'll come back.
01:37:26.000 My only question is that y'all asked us our education level, so I'm curious what y'all's is.
01:37:33.000 Okay.
01:37:34.000 Sure.
01:37:35.000 That was a good question.
01:37:36.000 Two years of college dropped out.
01:37:39.000 Three years of college, so.
01:37:41.000 But...
01:37:43.000 Bachelor's degree, criminal justice, Northeastern University.
01:37:46.000 Computer studies associate.
01:37:48.000 That's cool.
01:37:49.000 What's the longest relationship y'all ever been in?
01:37:51.000 Next.
01:37:54.000 Wait, who asked that?
01:37:55.000 Oh, you asked that?
01:37:56.000 Yeah, I did.
01:37:56.000 Oh, yeah.
01:38:01.000 Myrin's a man of God, of course.
01:38:02.000 Yeah, I mean, I got you.
01:38:04.000 I mean, my thing is, well, you're asking me specifically or all of us?
01:38:08.000 Oh, yeah.
01:38:09.000 All right, we can start with Destiny and then work our way.
01:38:10.000 Her wife is about four and a half years.
01:38:12.000 Okay.
01:38:13.000 I would say two and a half years on an awful lot.
01:38:17.000 Okay.
01:38:18.000 One year?
01:38:20.000 Me, yeah.
01:38:21.000 One year and then.
01:38:23.000 I mean, right now I got some mains.
01:38:26.000 I'm not monogamous.
01:38:28.000 I think monogamy is stupid, but my girls are all monogamous, but I'm not.
01:38:33.000 Interesting.
01:38:34.000 You're a Muslim?
01:38:35.000 How do you know they're being monogamous?
01:38:37.000 Oh, you just know.
01:38:38.000 Oh, you sure?
01:38:40.000 It's pretty obvious.
01:38:41.000 Girls lie better.
01:38:42.000 That's true.
01:38:43.000 That's true.
01:38:44.000 They are better at being deceptive, but there's certain things that make it pretty obvious.
01:38:49.000 If she's using a toy that's like a dildo, how do you know it's a dildo that's being in her and not a real man?
01:38:55.000 What the fuck?
01:38:56.000 Why would she be using a dildo?
01:38:56.000 What?
01:38:58.000 What?
01:38:58.000 Maybe sometimes he's not home and he's with his boys.
01:39:01.000 Yeah, you should use a vibrator.
01:39:02.000 Why are you single?
01:39:04.000 Wait, do you think using a dildo is like cheating or what's wrong with using a dildo?
01:39:07.000 That's what she said.
01:39:08.000 It's not cheating though.
01:39:10.000 It's not cheating.
01:39:11.000 Because that's just physical, but if you were with another man, there's some emotional attachment.
01:39:14.000 Is that what you do?
01:39:16.000 Is that what you do?
01:39:17.000 And that's why they said specifically the woman should be crazy about the guy.
01:39:21.000 I hear a lot of things.
01:39:22.000 I'm a bro girl.
01:39:23.000 A girl that's getting it from somebody else, her attention and her focus isn't going to be solely on that guy, and that's ways to tell, too.
01:39:29.000 She's not going to be as bothered if he's like, oh, I'm going to spend time with you, not spending time with you.
01:39:33.000 You're going to be stressed because you're focused solely on that guy, versus if he's saying that and then he's not delivering, you're just going to be like, whatever, I'll get it from this guy.
01:39:41.000 Yeah, but you're not even going to know if she feels that way because you're not around her half the time anyway.
01:39:44.000 No, she's going to be hitting you all up.
01:39:46.000 Is that, like, do you really want that relationship where a girl's hitting you up all the time because she's so desperate for your attention?
01:39:50.000 Not all the time.
01:39:50.000 Like, that's where Frame comes in.
01:39:51.000 Like I said before, she knows her.
01:39:54.000 So she's hitting you up like half the time or what, like, is...
01:39:54.000 But if sex is emotional...
01:39:57.000 No, then why wouldn't we want a man that can emotionally please us?
01:39:59.000 You should get at least one text a day of your girl checking in with you.
01:40:02.000 Like, I'm thinking about you.
01:40:03.000 I miss you.
01:40:05.000 It's very easy to tell when a woman is loyal, to answer your point.
01:40:09.000 But it's very easy to tell when a girl is being loyal versus not.
01:40:11.000 She's very transparent.
01:40:12.000 You can see things.
01:40:14.000 You're like number one on her priority list.
01:40:16.000 It's very easy to tell.
01:40:19.000 Where we at here?
01:40:21.000 Okay, Lalo goes, Destiny making all these points, but none of the girls on the panel will be in relation with him.
01:40:25.000 W Myron.
01:40:26.000 Lalo.
01:40:27.000 That was my question.
01:40:28.000 Go ahead.
01:40:29.000 What was your question?
01:40:29.000 No, no, no.
01:40:30.000 Go ahead.
01:40:30.000 This guy says, Sneak was a weak servitive.
01:40:32.000 Servitive.
01:40:33.000 Has been with no identity and has zero substance to his personality.
01:40:36.000 I bet it eats away at him.
01:40:38.000 Bro, you're in too deep, man.
01:40:39.000 What the fuck?
01:40:40.000 Zero substance to your personality.
01:40:43.000 LOL, you guys should have a call-in show for guys in sexless marriages.
01:40:47.000 Actually, that would be pretty good, actually.
01:40:48.000 That's a good idea.
01:40:50.000 IRS, the substance is strong with this panel.
01:40:53.000 Destiny is out of touch when it comes to modern dating.
01:40:55.000 No one should be taking dating advice from this blue-haired male in an open relationship.
01:40:58.000 Don't be a douche nozzle like the video would be audited.
01:41:02.000 So here's the thing.
01:41:04.000 I see that you have your relationship and you're happy with it, etc.
01:41:07.000 But I would argue most guys don't want their girl to be open with other men.
01:41:10.000 I've never advocated for my style.
01:41:11.000 But I talk to a lot of women.
01:41:12.000 I hook up with a lot of women.
01:41:13.000 I feel like I have a general idea of what's going on in relationships.
01:41:16.000 But here's the thing though.
01:41:17.000 The arguments you've made a lot of the time, like, oh no, you should be with your girl, blah, blah, blah, all these things.
01:41:20.000 Like, these are things that you exercise in your relationship, right?
01:41:23.000 Which is fine, because you're okay with the outcome of your relationship.
01:41:26.000 But what I'm saying is that what most guys want is an outcome of your relationship where their girl is open.
01:41:31.000 That's why I disagree with a lot of your points.
01:41:33.000 Yeah, but my perspective isn't coming from, this is what you should do to have an open relationship.
01:41:37.000 My perspective is that in a healthy relationship, two people can live together, love each other, and also give each other space in the same house.
01:41:41.000 But I would argue that it's not healthy to allow your woman to hook up with other guys.
01:41:44.000 And most guys would not want that.
01:41:46.000 Yeah, and I probably agree for most of the time, yeah.
01:41:47.000 But also, my relationship style is more realistic than yours.
01:41:50.000 You think so?
01:41:51.000 Absolutely.
01:41:51.000 No, it's not.
01:41:52.000 Where both people have the respect for each other to both be open rather than the one-sided open relationship, that is massive.
01:41:57.000 I think if your woman is hooking up with other guys, she inherently does not respect you.
01:42:03.000 That's great, but most 99% of women would say that if you're talking about other women, you don't respect them.
01:42:07.000 No, I definitely do because respect is not the same between the genders.
01:42:10.000 In that sense, it absolutely is.
01:42:11.000 I disagree.
01:42:12.000 That's fine.
01:42:12.000 I mean, we can poll women, but I'm very confident that more women would be okay being in a double-sided open relationship than a single-sided.
01:42:18.000 How come you don't advocate towards open relationships?
01:42:20.000 You say that your relationship method is not for most people.
01:42:22.000 What did I just say earlier?
01:42:24.000 You said that most people can't do that.
01:42:25.000 So then why would I advocate for it if I don't think most people could do it?
01:42:27.000 Yeah.
01:42:28.000 But that's your point as well, Destiny.
01:42:30.000 You let her take charge, though.
01:42:31.000 No, I don't let her take charge.
01:42:32.000 What do you mean?
01:42:33.000 No, you did because you said earlier her thing was open relationships.
01:42:35.000 You didn't really want that.
01:42:36.000 You just cheated.
01:42:37.000 I'm going to acquiesce to her.
01:42:37.000 So you say, you know what?
01:42:40.000 This is the most autistic frame you've ever started.
01:42:42.000 When we started dating, she said she did open relationships.
01:42:44.000 I said, that sounds great.
01:42:45.000 So we started dating as an open relationship.
01:42:47.000 What?
01:42:48.000 She brought up, not you.
01:42:49.000 Did you have one before that?
01:42:51.000 So before I was in relationships, I have a hard time staying faithful because I like to fuck around a lot.
01:42:54.000 So I found somebody that does open relationships.
01:42:55.000 I was like, oh, cool, we'll do that.
01:42:56.000 But I guess in Fresh's world, since she did it first, I'm like stepping into her frame.
01:43:00.000 But the reality is if she wanted monogamous relationships, I wouldn't have dated her.
01:43:02.000 I don't think I could have handled that.
01:43:03.000 I would have just found somebody that does over relationships.
01:43:04.000 Or I would have just been a fuckboy.
01:43:06.000 So you would not be okay with, like, let's say she decided, like, let's say you guys got together and she said, okay, I'm going to be monogamous to you and you can go ahead and have other women.
01:43:13.000 You wouldn't have been okay with that?
01:43:14.000 Me?
01:43:14.000 Personally?
01:43:15.000 No.
01:43:15.000 Yeah.
01:43:15.000 Why not?
01:43:16.000 Why?
01:43:16.000 Because I don't think there's respect in that level of asymmetry in a relationship.
01:43:19.000 And I think it would be, I know that there would be conflict if I'm, like, telling my wife, like, she's like, oh, do you want to do something for an end?
01:43:24.000 I was like, oh, no, no, no, sorry, like, you can hang out at home, but I'm gonna go fuck somebody else.
01:43:27.000 That's a disaster waiting to happen.
01:43:29.000 Well, you wouldn't say that.
01:43:30.000 But I don't want to be an issue where I have to lie to my partner constantly.
01:43:33.000 You just do what you want to do.
01:43:34.000 You don't have to go explain everything you do.
01:43:35.000 No, no, if, bro.
01:43:37.000 This is like a seven-year-old concept of lying.
01:43:39.000 If you know that you're avoiding certain topics because you know it's gonna upset her, you're essentially lying.
01:43:43.000 There's a mutual understanding, but some things don't need to be spelled out black and white like that.
01:43:47.000 Okay, that's fine.
01:43:47.000 I wouldn't want to be in a relationship where there's a mutual understanding where I can step in on my girl and she couldn't do the same for me.
01:43:52.000 So what's your guys' dynamic?
01:43:53.000 Like, do you guys both need to be seeing someone, like, at the same time?
01:43:55.000 I think generally that's what we prefer.
01:43:57.000 That's generally what we prefer, yeah.
01:43:58.000 Okay.
01:43:58.000 So that nobody, like, feels like, I guess, left out or whatever, yeah.
01:44:01.000 See, but the only reason I disagree with that, I mean, hey, it's your relationship, but I'm saying for other guys is that that implies that you and her are equal.
01:44:09.000 I mean, that's how I view relationships.
01:44:10.000 To some extent, I am equal with my partner.
01:44:11.000 You also admit that men and women are not equal.
01:44:13.000 No, no.
01:44:14.000 Hold on.
01:44:14.000 I didn't say that.
01:44:15.000 You said that men and women are different.
01:44:17.000 I said men and women are not the same.
01:44:18.000 Same, yeah.
01:44:19.000 But that doesn't mean they can't be equal partnership with a relationship, in my view.
01:44:21.000 I understand you guys view it differently.
01:44:22.000 So you don't agree that a man should lead and a woman should follow?
01:44:24.000 Absolutely not.
01:44:25.000 I wouldn't want to be with a woman that had to lead around.
01:44:26.000 Okay.
01:44:27.000 I don't.
01:44:27.000 But I understand that you guys don't feel that way.
01:44:28.000 Yeah, I don't agree with your perspective, but I understand it.
01:44:30.000 I agree with your perspective, and I think a lot of women agree with that.
01:44:33.000 Yeah, I think so now.
01:44:34.000 I think it's increasingly becoming more and more like that.
01:44:36.000 If you had a man that you love and I respect, do you want to go fuck other guys?
01:44:39.000 If I have a man that I love and respect, would I fuck other guys?
01:44:44.000 No, but...
01:44:45.000 Can I tell you something?
01:44:48.000 Can I tell you something?
01:44:50.000 I can fantasize about fucking other men, but since I'm in a real...
01:44:56.000 Yeah, I mean, you can fantasize...
01:44:58.000 What the fuck?
01:44:59.000 Wait, wait, wait.
01:45:01.000 Wait, wait.
01:45:03.000 I had an eight-year relationship.
01:45:08.000 I'm talking about a long relationship.
01:45:12.000 You're going to fantasize because it's like getting mad at my man because he's looking at another girl.
01:45:18.000 It's normal because we fantasize about other people.
01:45:21.000 That doesn't mean that I'm going to fuck someone else.
01:45:23.000 I can think about it.
01:45:24.000 I can fantasize about it.
01:45:26.000 That does not mean I'm going to do it, especially if we're not in an open relationship, because that's what love is.
01:45:32.000 You have to compromise.
01:45:33.000 You have to not be selfish.
01:45:34.000 You have to...
01:45:34.000 So you were fantasizing about being with other men?
01:45:36.000 No, but I can fantasize about having sex sometimes, yeah, for sure.
01:45:40.000 Why do you think women watch Fifty Shades of Grey?
01:45:42.000 For sure, for sure.
01:45:43.000 I watch porn.
01:45:44.000 I do.
01:45:44.000 And my man knows.
01:45:45.000 I mean, he knows that I'm watching porn.
01:45:47.000 But you do understand that his point of view is if you're with him, you got to fuck other dudes.
01:45:52.000 I'm sorry, what?
01:45:53.000 His point of view is, if you're with him, you're going to fuck other dudes.
01:45:57.000 All I'm saying is that, I think if most women had to choose, first of all, I don't think most would choose an open relationship at all.
01:46:03.000 I think that's an incredibly rare thing.
01:46:04.000 But I'm saying if they had to choose, I think women would tend towards dual open relationships than the single-sided ones.
01:46:09.000 I think the single-sided one would be a fucking nightmare.
01:46:11.000 No, I think, again, if the guy is that dude, they want the single-sided one.
01:46:16.000 If the difference is great enough, maybe.
01:46:18.000 Because if a girl truly loves, admires, respects her man, all other men are invisible to her.
01:46:21.000 Men and women are not the same.
01:46:22.000 That's not true.
01:46:23.000 That's delusional.
01:46:24.000 That is delusional.
01:46:26.000 We all have eyes.
01:46:27.000 I mean, what?
01:46:28.000 That's weird.
01:46:29.000 Okay, having eyes and looking at another man versus going out and fucking another man are two different things.
01:46:33.000 No, I'm not talking about fucking fantasizing.
01:46:38.000 So, no.
01:46:39.000 Everybody's fantasizing.
01:46:40.000 Let me ask you a question.
01:46:41.000 Everybody's always...
01:46:42.000 Let me ask you a question.
01:46:43.000 If you were with a man that you love and mind respect, would you want to go have sex with another man?
01:46:48.000 Would I want to?
01:46:49.000 Maybe?
01:46:49.000 Would I do it?
01:46:51.000 No, I wouldn't.
01:46:52.000 I never cheated.
01:46:53.000 There you go.
01:46:54.000 But here's the thing.
01:46:55.000 If I'm with a woman that I love and I respect, I still want to fuck other girls.
01:46:58.000 That's the difference.
01:46:59.000 If I'm with you and you're fucking another girl, I'm going to fuck another guy because that's respect.
01:47:10.000 Wait, wait, wait!
01:47:11.000 So you're going to fantasize about another girl and fuck another girl and I'm going to fantasize about another guy and like restrain myself?
01:47:17.000 No, if you cannot respect me, I'm going to- Also, also, wait, hold on.
01:47:20.000 All the girls here, I don't remember if it was you two or what, that's talking about like, I wouldn't be able to buy a guy because of diseases or whatever.
01:47:25.000 Who are talking about you want your guy going out fucking random girl all the time?
01:47:28.000 What happened to the STD? You don't get HIV from a girl.
01:47:33.000 That's a different thing.
01:47:34.000 We do know.
01:47:36.000 HIV is a gay SCD, I'm just saying.
01:47:38.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:47:41.000 What the heck?
01:47:42.000 Heterosexual SCDs are different than homosexual SCDs.
01:47:45.000 If you live in the Western world, how many people at all have HIV? Even the gays got over HIV. I don't know, man.
01:47:50.000 That's some butter-caught SCDs.
01:47:52.000 Maybe you have gonorrhea, syphilis, all this other shit.
01:47:55.000 That's not a little fucking pill.
01:47:56.000 HIV, you're worth it forever.
01:47:58.000 I don't know, man.
01:47:58.000 You get monkey pox, you got HIV. I don't care.
01:48:05.000 Herpes versus monkeypox, I'm taking herpes any day.
01:48:09.000 But these men don't be wrapping it up.
01:48:11.000 These girls can get pregnant and they can get STDs too.
01:48:14.000 I think the main thing is that men naturally want to have sex with other women.
01:48:17.000 Women don't naturally want to have sex with other men.
01:48:18.000 They want the best man.
01:48:20.000 They want the best man.
01:48:21.000 A lot of women...
01:48:21.000 Can I finish this?
01:48:26.000 A lot of women can be attracted to other guys and a lot of women will be only attracted to their men.
01:48:32.000 It depends.
01:48:33.000 But women still want to consolidate on the best man.
01:48:36.000 What?
01:48:42.000 I will argue that most women will be okay with having a man that will just fuck with whoever he wants, as long as he doesn't commit to another person emotionally.
01:48:53.000 That is absolutely not true.
01:48:55.000 There's girls at the table that are okay with that.
01:48:59.000 Yeah, the red-pilled girls, but most women are not going to be okay with their men.
01:49:02.000 There are studies because women are emotional, men are not.
01:49:06.000 Men are absolutely emotional.
01:49:07.000 What are you talking about?
01:49:08.000 Men are way more emotional.
01:49:10.000 They literally kill themselves when they bump into each other in the street.
01:49:12.000 How is that not emotional?
01:49:14.000 The only reason why you can say women are more emotional than them is because for some reason you don't count anger as an emotion.
01:49:18.000 Men are absolutely emotional creatures.
01:49:19.000 Of course they are.
01:49:20.000 Listen, I studied psychology.
01:49:23.000 I saw this in the university.
01:49:25.000 There is actually a whole study that will say women will get mad if a man commits emotionally to another woman because if they fuck another woman, they will ask like, oh, but did you buy her flowers?
01:49:38.000 Or did you take it to the movies?
01:49:41.000 There is no psych research that says this.
01:49:44.000 Absolutely not.
01:49:45.000 You're telling me that if you found out your guy cheated, the first thing the woman is saying is like, did you buy her flowers?
01:49:50.000 Absolutely not.
01:49:51.000 That's what she will think.
01:49:54.000 She's going to be mad that you fucked another woman.
01:49:57.000 No, not at all.
01:49:58.000 Here's the thing, what she's saying basically is if a woman finds out that her man is cheating, she's going to ask him, do you love her?
01:50:04.000 Yeah, you love her.
01:50:05.000 She's more concerned with the emotional connection if that woman could replace her.
01:50:09.000 But if a man finds out his girl cheated on him, he's going to be more concerned with the physicality.
01:50:13.000 That's why for a guy, if he sees his girl cheating or if he knows her body count or anything like that and it's not to his acceptable parameters, he's going to be turned off by that.
01:50:21.000 Women can get mindfucked seeing pictures of an ex.
01:50:24.000 She's like larger boobs than the woman.
01:50:25.000 How are you telling me that a woman is not going to get...
01:50:27.000 If a woman sees you dated like two girls in a row that had big old fucking double D's and she's like an A cup, that type of shit is going to fuck with your man.
01:50:33.000 How are you going to tell me that a girl seeing you go and fuck another girl that's younger, that's Asian, that has a bigger booty, bigger boobs, isn't going to start to get that shit in her head too?
01:50:39.000 She's going to ask, do you love her?
01:50:41.000 It doesn't matter if you love her.
01:50:42.000 She's gonna think, oh, he wants that.
01:50:43.000 He doesn't want me.
01:50:44.000 He wants that girl that's younger.
01:50:45.000 He wants that girl that's Asian.
01:50:46.000 He wants that girl that has that type of thing going on.
01:50:48.000 That's what she's gonna be thinking constantly.
01:50:49.000 The point here is that women prioritize emotional connection and relationships.
01:50:52.000 They might, sure.
01:50:54.000 I probably agree with that, but that doesn't mean they're okay with you fucking other girls in general.
01:50:57.000 That's some hyper niche shit.
01:50:59.000 Not many women are gonna be okay with that.
01:51:00.000 Not right now, but you have to learn that frame.
01:51:02.000 No, they don't.
01:51:03.000 They won't.
01:51:03.000 It's not something that they're growing up with.
01:51:04.000 No, what happens is that they're not going to learn that frame and then you're going to be in this world where 45% of women are like, oh, I don't need no man.
01:51:09.000 And you're going to be on your podcast and be like, oh, it's so bullshit that women want to accept these blah, blah, blah.
01:51:12.000 We're advocating for relationships that they never want to be in.
01:51:14.000 No, you're not going to complain about it.
01:51:15.000 You need to up your frame.
01:51:16.000 You need to up your game.
01:51:17.000 You need to make sure that you're better so that women do submit to that.
01:51:19.000 And we did say that most women would accept that from the right guy is the argument.
01:51:23.000 If it's the right guy, they'll break rules for him.
01:51:25.000 You want to be the guy that girls break rules for.
01:51:27.000 If it's the right guy and she's low enough, yes.
01:51:29.000 It's not low enough.
01:51:30.000 It is low enough.
01:51:31.000 It is.
01:51:31.000 Because any woman with enough self-respect or enough status...
01:51:35.000 From what perspective low enough?
01:51:38.000 What do you mean?
01:51:38.000 In terms of class, in terms of education, in terms of income, depending on where she's at.
01:51:41.000 There's enough disparity between him and her, basically.
01:51:45.000 And what avenues?
01:51:47.000 If you're finding a woman and the only thing she has to offer the world are looks and age, then yeah, you could probably juggle a lot of them.
01:51:54.000 But if they have anything else to offer the world, they're probably going to find a guy that's a little bit different than that.
01:51:57.000 That's not doing the one-ended open relationship thing.
01:51:58.000 So you're saying like education and other things?
01:52:00.000 Sure, it could be education, family, background, class.
01:52:02.000 It could be where they live.
01:52:03.000 It could be a bunch of other shit going on, depending on, yeah.
01:52:05.000 Remember, his frame is going in that it's an equal partnership.
01:52:07.000 He's thinking about what a woman offers to the world based on what a man usually offers to the world.
01:52:11.000 True, but remember, a lot of women now are going in as equal partnerships because they have the pill and they have access to school.
01:52:15.000 Right, and so our diagnosis of this is like, don't submit to that feminist idea.
01:52:19.000 But women are not aroused by men that are equal to them.
01:52:22.000 Depending on how you treat them, of course there.
01:52:23.000 You can still be masculine while treating your partner as an equal.
01:52:25.000 No!
01:52:26.000 Hell no!
01:52:26.000 Absolutely you can.
01:52:28.000 Because masculinity is inherently dominant, so that means that you are not equal.
01:52:31.000 No, it's not.
01:52:31.000 Most men are followers.
01:52:32.000 Most men aren't managers.
01:52:33.000 Most men aren't leaders.
01:52:34.000 Yeah, most men are followers.
01:52:35.000 The vast majority of men are followers.
01:52:37.000 They go to work, they take orders from a boss.
01:52:38.000 No, no, no.
01:52:39.000 We're talking about in a relationship, not you and the working I'm talking about women are attracted to masculine traits, which inherently means that you are not equal because you are dominant.
01:52:46.000 You're telling her what to do.
01:52:47.000 You're the leader in the relationship and she's the subordinate.
01:52:49.000 How is that equal?
01:52:50.000 You can say that, but I think most women today, I don't know about a hundred years ago, but today would rather have a man that listens to them, takes their feedback into account and makes decisions as a team.
01:53:03.000 A woman wants to be able to have her opinion heard, but she wants you to be the final decision maker.
01:53:07.000 So I respectfully disagree with you on that, Destiny.
01:53:09.000 A girl wants to hear her opinion, but at the end of the day, she wants a man that can tell her, shut up, that's stupid, we're gonna do this instead.
01:53:14.000 A girl wants to be able to be put in her place by her man at any time.
01:53:17.000 And I think that if you're talking with a woman that is like an educated woman past a certain point, she's not ever gonna want to be put in her place.
01:53:21.000 That's gonna be like, I'm out of here.
01:53:23.000 These feminists that you're talking about, these educated women, they want it the most!
01:53:26.000 Because they're surrounded by a bunch of liberal guys that are like, oh, your opinion matters!
01:53:29.000 Oh no, we're equal!
01:53:30.000 I'm a feminist too!
01:53:31.000 No, they love guys that are like, shut up!
01:53:32.000 Most of them are like, oh, I'm single and I don't give a fuck because I don't need a guy because none of them give me any value.
01:53:36.000 That's what's happening more and more, right?
01:53:37.000 Feminists and these liberal women that you talk about yearn for masculinity the strongest.
01:53:41.000 The strongest type of masculinity is usually a man that could be somewhat of a partner with a woman but still kind of lead.
01:53:46.000 Who are you talking about?
01:53:49.000 There's a difference between having the final say in something, but also still being receptive and able to treat your partner as an equal and have feedback and everything and make decisions.
01:53:56.000 Could I not be saying that?
01:53:57.000 That's not what they're saying.
01:53:58.000 They want something that is submissive and is deferring all drivers from the men.
01:54:00.000 I don't think that they're going to be like, shut up, bitch.
01:54:02.000 I don't want to hear anything you have to say.
01:54:03.000 That is exactly what they're saying.
01:54:05.000 They're still going to listen to their partners, but ultimately they need to have trust that the man is the one who is the leader of the relationship and can ultimately make those calls.
01:54:13.000 It's okay.
01:54:14.000 It's not going to dismiss their opinion entirely.
01:54:16.000 I think what's going to happen is in a good partnership, you defer to the person with the most experience on the decision that you're making.
01:54:21.000 So if you need to move somewhere for somebody's job or for somebody's whatever, depending on whose job it is or whatever, that would be the person making the decision.
01:54:27.000 Guys are way more practical.
01:54:30.000 So oftentimes when it comes to practicalities of a relationship...
01:54:38.000 I don't even think that's true when it comes to finances.
01:54:40.000 I think men actually juggle more debt and are more financially responsible than women are.
01:54:43.000 Men are absolutely not responsible.
01:54:45.000 Bro, how many poor people walk around with fucking Nikes and iPhones?
01:54:47.000 Look up, look up credit cards.
01:54:49.000 I actually have no idea.
01:54:51.000 Because they run the household.
01:54:53.000 Because they run the household.
01:54:55.000 That's different.
01:54:56.000 That's not them racking up expenses for themselves.
01:54:57.000 Women have way more debt than men.
01:54:58.000 Way more.
01:54:59.000 Okay.
01:54:59.000 That's a fact.
01:55:00.000 Women have way more debt than men do.
01:55:02.000 And marketing is tied to women because they're more emotional.
01:55:04.000 They're 80% of the consumer-based destiny.
01:55:06.000 That's a fact, though.
01:55:06.000 Why did you say more emotional?
01:55:08.000 No, they made emotional choices.
01:55:09.000 Dude, men buy shit because their favorite rappers and fucking movie stars wear it.
01:55:13.000 How is that not emotional?
01:55:14.000 No, no, no.
01:55:14.000 Everybody's emotional.
01:55:15.000 He means women are more likely to be impulse buyers.
01:55:18.000 That's what he means.
01:55:19.000 So therefore, marketers and advertisers target women because they're more likely to be impulse purchasers, which is buying off of them.
01:55:26.000 I don't even know if that's true.
01:55:26.000 If a guy steps into a car dealership and he runs into a more slick enough car dealership, he might drive out with a fucking jenny line.
01:55:32.000 Okay, in vehicles, no.
01:55:33.000 But in general, women are 80% of the consumer base and control three quarters of that, bro.
01:55:37.000 That's a fact.
01:55:38.000 You keep saying that, but that's because they control the household spending.
01:55:40.000 So of course they do, right?
01:55:42.000 That still doesn't refute my argument.
01:55:43.000 Yeah, but that's not that being irresponsible of their money being crazy.
01:55:45.000 That doesn't buy you the household.
01:55:47.000 Yeah, I do.
01:55:47.000 I am.
01:56:03.000 Do you think your wife can beat you in a fight?
01:56:06.000 Absolutely not.
01:56:07.000 I would beat the shit out of her.
01:56:09.000 Wait, are we still on YouTube?
01:56:10.000 Sorry.
01:56:12.000 She disagreed on my stream, I'm just saying.
01:56:14.000 Allegedly, Destiny.
01:56:15.000 Allegedly.
01:56:15.000 She looks pretty tough.
01:56:17.000 She is tough.
01:56:17.000 She's a strong woman.
01:56:18.000 Oh, yeah.
01:56:19.000 Okay.
01:56:20.000 We have some more chats here.
01:56:34.000 Yes, but it's more likely for that to happen.
01:56:39.000 It's more likely that you fall out of frame if you're living with your woman all the time.
01:56:41.000 So just better play your cards right and avoid that situation because it happens so often.
01:56:45.000 How do you protect her, though, if you are away for random spurts of time?
01:56:48.000 You set up the house properly, you can get security, you can make sure you have a good house.
01:56:52.000 If you are the right provider, then you're not going to need to be there all the time watching with a gun.
01:56:56.000 If you live in a good neighborhood, if you live in a gated community, if the house is protected, you should be fine.
01:57:01.000 S night.
01:57:03.000 Calculate the amount of time that most men spend commuting, work, eat, gym, sleep, compared to the time they freely spend at home with their relationships.
01:57:12.000 It's barely any.
01:57:13.000 You basically only have the weekends to spend the time that you guys are talking about with your relationship.
01:57:20.000 Oh god.
01:57:24.000 My balls say, I mean...
01:57:26.000 Yes, sir!
01:57:28.000 Amina, I want you first suckers, then back to the crib for bedroom photos.
01:57:33.000 Fresh introduced her to your lean, mean, deep, dry, drilling, 304 machine.
01:57:37.000 Fresh is so proud he put his name on it.
01:57:39.000 Make the move big.
01:57:40.000 He's an island boy!
01:57:42.000 Yes, sir!
01:57:42.000 Let's move forward.
01:57:43.000 Get him, Fresh, get him!
01:57:44.000 Wait, wait, wait.
01:57:44.000 Who's Amina?
01:57:46.000 She's cool, yeah.
01:57:47.000 Any comments?
01:57:49.000 Chill out, bro.
01:57:50.000 I honestly don't really get it.
01:57:54.000 Back to the crib.
01:57:55.000 Don't worry about it.
01:57:57.000 EJ Moe.
01:57:59.000 Okay, move forward.
01:58:00.000 The Bible does describe polygamy, but it does not prescribe polygamy.
01:58:05.000 But does that prescribe it?
01:58:06.000 Okay, let that sink in.
01:58:08.000 Encourage.
01:58:09.000 Uh, XXX is like fire.
01:58:11.000 In the fireplace it will warm you, but elsewhere it will burn your house down.
01:58:14.000 Doesn't the Bible explicitly say no polygamy?
01:58:16.000 Yeah, it's against it.
01:58:17.000 Like, I think King Solomon didn't, like, God say, I'm fucking splitting your kingdom in half and you're gonna get fucked by the invaders or whatever for being...
01:58:22.000 Well, that story was about him falling from grace because he took in too many women and he followed their religion.
01:58:30.000 The actual act itself wasn't frowned upon.
01:58:33.000 It's just that he took people from a different, I want to say, area, and their God was not the God of his people.
01:58:39.000 Am I wrong?
01:58:40.000 Isn't one of the commandments...
01:58:41.000 Honor your wife.
01:58:44.000 Yeah, it's not wives, right?
01:58:46.000 Don't commit adultery.
01:58:49.000 The Quran has this laid out.
01:58:52.000 When it comes to making decisions about loans or making major financial decisions, it says that you should have a contract signed and then two men should be present.
01:58:59.000 But if two men are not able to be present, you have one man and then two women.
01:59:03.000 So basically when it comes to decision making the Quran, there's two women, their decision is equal to one man because just in case the women messes up, basically they're countering their One woman's logic is going to back it up.
01:59:15.000 Yeah, women are inconsistent, they get emotional, and so they're taking account for that.
01:59:18.000 If one of the women fails, then the other woman is there to check it.
01:59:20.000 So two women's opinion is equal to one man's opinion in the Quran.
01:59:23.000 There you go.
01:59:24.000 That's hilarious, but why do you bring that up?
01:59:25.000 How did that relate to what was just...
01:59:27.000 I don't know.
01:59:27.000 Because he's talking about an equal relationship, and now I'm thinking about it.
01:59:30.000 The fact that you think that a woman's opinion is equal to a man's opinion, based on the Quran, that's Haram.
01:59:34.000 Oh shit, I didn't even think of that.
01:59:36.000 Why was he thinking about what fucking Muslims think about women?
01:59:38.000 Based on the Quran, women are not...
01:59:41.000 I will say this is my first take.
01:59:43.000 I genuinely think that one man's vote should equal two women's vote when it comes to electing the president.
01:59:49.000 And before you guys get mad at me for saying that, the reason why I say that is because men have to sign up for selective service.
01:59:58.000 So if men have the responsibility of having to potentially be drafted for war and defend their country and die, their vote should have more weight than a woman's because women don't have the same risks.
02:00:10.000 I agree.
02:00:11.000 Thinking like that, I will close every way.
02:00:13.000 Yeah, that's why I genuinely think that one woman's vote should...
02:00:17.000 Sorry, two women's vote counts as one guy's vote.
02:00:19.000 And also, I mean, here's the other thing, too.
02:00:21.000 This might be a little bit more crazy.
02:00:22.000 But women tend to be more communitarian.
02:00:24.000 They tend to be more, you know, towards socialism and, you know, okay, you get a dollar, you get a dollar, you get a dollar.
02:00:30.000 Men tend to be more merit-based.
02:00:31.000 And I think for society to work, you got to...
02:00:33.000 Capitalism is the way.
02:00:34.000 So that's another reason why I think a man's vote should be valued more than a woman's vote.
02:00:39.000 But that's just my take.
02:00:41.000 Alright, we got Tim.
02:00:42.000 Anybody else?
02:00:42.000 Anybody disagree with that?
02:00:44.000 Repeal the 19th.
02:00:45.000 I don't know if we want to get a whole fucking argument.
02:00:48.000 What I'm saying, I think a man's vote should count more.
02:00:51.000 You got something, Ms.
02:00:51.000 Blair?
02:00:52.000 Go ahead.
02:00:52.000 I was just going to say I strongly disagree, but I also don't feel like debating this.
02:00:56.000 I mean, go ahead, debate it.
02:00:57.000 Why do you disagree?
02:00:58.000 The disagreement is selective services.
02:01:00.000 First of all, that's one very minor part.
02:01:01.000 Minor?
02:01:02.000 Yeah.
02:01:03.000 When was the last draft?
02:01:04.000 Exactly.
02:01:05.000 No, no, no.
02:01:05.000 We might have World War III now, dude.
02:01:07.000 No, we're not going to have World War III now.
02:01:10.000 Do you not see what's going on right now?
02:01:12.000 I'll give you 5 to 1 odds.
02:01:14.000 Bro, hey man.
02:01:15.000 Don't do it.
02:01:19.000 So, last draft was like decades ago, okay?
02:01:22.000 So, I don't think that the fact that we have to sign up for selective service, which is, what is it, from like 19 to 25 or something, or 18 to 25?
02:01:28.000 As soon as you turn 18, you gotta...
02:01:29.000 Till when?
02:01:30.000 Like, it's like 20...
02:01:31.000 No, as soon as you turn 18 as a man, you must...
02:01:33.000 Yeah, but I think you can only be drafted up to a certain age.
02:01:35.000 It's pretty young, isn't it?
02:01:36.000 Like, you're not drafting people in their 40s.
02:01:38.000 Is it?
02:01:39.000 I think you can be drafted.
02:01:40.000 It depends on the needs of the military at that time.
02:01:42.000 If we're at the point where we're drafting people in their 40s...
02:01:43.000 Yeah, I mean, but...
02:01:45.000 But the point is that men...
02:01:47.000 No, I understand that the selective service is another thing, but also it's unfair that women have to have kids.
02:01:52.000 But that's a choice.
02:01:54.000 You don't choose if you get a point in the selective service.
02:01:56.000 Men can't even make that choice, right?
02:01:58.000 I'm just saying, well, as in men are never going to get pregnant and have kids, right?
02:02:00.000 I'm just saying, life's not fair.
02:02:01.000 That's what you guys like to say all the time, right?
02:02:03.000 Just because life's not fair doesn't mean that somebody should theoretically have a different vote, right?
02:02:06.000 If you've never actually been drafted, why should the fact that you stand up for selective service means that you have more of a say in running society than the other half of the people that live here and are affected by it?
02:02:13.000 No, the reason why is because you take on more risk as a man.
02:02:16.000 You could be drafted.
02:02:17.000 But that risk is...
02:02:17.000 You probably take on more risk if I can cross the street than signing up for selective service.
02:02:20.000 Dude, if you don't enroll in selective service, you don't get certain opportunities.
02:02:24.000 No, but I'm saying that the risk of signing up for selective service is probably less than the risk of literally anything else you do.
02:02:28.000 Regardless, you still have to take that risk.
02:02:30.000 Women don't.
02:02:31.000 That's fine.
02:02:31.000 Regardless, you don't take the risk.
02:02:32.000 But I'm saying the risk...
02:02:33.000 The difference is like, here.
02:02:34.000 I don't know if that's like, my vote is out twice as much because of this.
02:02:37.000 I think it's twice as much because of that.
02:02:38.000 Because that's a big risk.
02:02:39.000 Because you are obligated to defend your country and be a civil servant and women are not.
02:02:42.000 That's a big difference.
02:02:44.000 Okay, but in the era of, like, women's rights being repealed right now, and, like, you no longer have...
02:02:51.000 I'm pro-choice, personally, but you no longer have the right to choose in a lot of states in this country, so...
02:02:59.000 About half, yeah.
02:02:59.000 So...
02:03:01.000 Childbirth, yes, is a choice, but then also contraception is hard.
02:03:07.000 It's getting harder for women to access contraception.
02:03:09.000 It's getting harder for women to have a choice and a recourse if they do accidentally get pregnant.
02:03:15.000 Are we aware of the stats for childbirth in women?
02:03:22.000 Mostly, a lot of Black women statistically die more giving birth.
02:03:27.000 So it's still a risk you're assuming just because I was born a woman.
02:03:30.000 They actually abort the most kids as well, statistically.
02:03:31.000 They abort the most kids, and also they're significantly fatter.
02:03:34.000 So, like, they- This statistic is showing up to be like- That's a fact!
02:03:39.000 They talk about 5'3", 185 pounds!
02:03:41.000 But are you aware of the stats of, like, racism in the medical industry?
02:03:44.000 Yeah, see, this is the argument, like, that the nurses are racist because black women are dying- Wait, nurse?
02:03:48.000 Red flag.
02:03:49.000 Look, black women are extremely unhealthy compared to the other races in America.
02:03:54.000 So this is like a weird thing.
02:03:55.000 You think the nurses are trying to kill them?
02:03:56.000 And there's a lot of systemic issues that surround that, though.
02:03:57.000 You think the doctors are plotting?
02:03:59.000 You think the doctors are KKK? I didn't say that.
02:04:00.000 Wait, hold on.
02:04:01.000 Firstly, there are some doctors that literally will prescribe different types of medication if you're black or white.
02:04:05.000 Yeah, that's true.
02:04:05.000 And there are doctors that will take women less seriously when it comes to pain.
02:04:07.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
02:04:08.000 But also...
02:04:09.000 To be clear, too, the thing you point about black women being fat more often, that is true, but a lot of that is not just because black women choose to be fucking fat.
02:04:17.000 But it also has to do with your generational wealth.
02:04:20.000 It has to do with where your family came from.
02:04:21.000 It has to do with where you were born.
02:04:22.000 It had to do with all these things that in the past were controlled by things that were literally related to your race and the government.
02:04:27.000 No, man, if you're fat, you're fat.
02:04:28.000 You ate too many calories.
02:04:29.000 It has nothing to do with the government and all that other stuff.
02:04:32.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.
02:04:33.000 Do you think a five-year-old chooses to be fat?
02:04:36.000 Here's the thing, when you become an adult, you do have a choice to be fat or not.
02:04:38.000 When you become fat as a five-year-old, you're fat forever.
02:04:42.000 Undoing that shit?
02:04:44.000 Undoing that shit is almost impossible.
02:04:45.000 No, it's not.
02:04:46.000 It's like, I think 2%.
02:04:49.000 That's great.
02:04:51.000 And guess how much easier life is when you don't ever have to worry about that, right?
02:04:54.000 There are people that when you hit the overweight, no, no.
02:04:57.000 When you hit the obese section of your BMI range, there is a 2% chance you ever make it back to normal.
02:05:01.000 Do you know how much easier you're starting in life if you've got parents who care about diet, nutrition, and shit, and you make it to 18 at a normal BMI than a kid that's fucking overweight when they're five years old?
02:05:08.000 Yeah, okay.
02:05:08.000 That's cool.
02:05:09.000 But when you become an adult, if you're still a fat ass, it's your fault.
02:05:15.000 Ultimately, your programming during your first five years of life is going to influence many different aspects.
02:05:22.000 For example, the amount of attention that you get from your parents, the nutrition that you eat.
02:05:27.000 All of these things are forming your subconscious brain.
02:05:29.000 So it's not just that, it's various aspects.
02:05:31.000 No one here would disagree.
02:05:32.000 For a lot of families of color in the United States, depending on your background, those things are starting off a lot further behind than other types of families.
02:05:38.000 That's not an excuse to be a fat loser.
02:05:40.000 I never said it's an excuse.
02:05:41.000 This is just reality.
02:05:42.000 You're justifying it.
02:05:43.000 No, I'm just justifying it.
02:05:44.000 I'm just saying that's reality.
02:05:45.000 So what are you doing?
02:05:46.000 I'm saying that if you look at a cohort of people, if you take a bunch of people, it's retarded to just say, oh, you need to make better choices.
02:05:51.000 The reality is that 99% of people are going to be more or less moving through life in the environment they were born in.
02:05:56.000 Very few people can But that and become way better than their environment.
02:05:59.000 Okay, so as an adult, is it better to blame your environment or make better choices?
02:06:02.000 You should make better choices, but realistically, most people won't.
02:06:05.000 That's just the reality.
02:06:06.000 But they should.
02:06:06.000 Yeah, they should, but most people won't.
02:06:08.000 Most people can't.
02:06:09.000 No, no, no, no, no.
02:06:11.000 It's either you can make better choices, you can't say they can't.
02:06:13.000 You just choose not to.
02:06:14.000 So y'all choose not to when y'all are living with a woman, then?
02:06:18.000 Yeah, we chose not to.
02:06:19.000 That's why you shouldn't live with them.
02:06:21.000 Make better choices.
02:06:22.000 We chose not to to maintain the attraction in the relationship, yes.
02:06:24.000 Thank you.
02:06:26.000 What's your argument here?
02:06:27.000 My argument is that if y'all have the choice, then y'all have the choice regardless of what your environment is.
02:06:33.000 Yeah, if you live with a woman, you're saying that living with a woman is such a toxic environment, it destroys your ability to hold frame.
02:06:38.000 But, like, living from 0 to 18 with fucked parents and then suddenly overcoming that, you think that that's possible?
02:06:43.000 It doesn't destroy the ability, but it's better to live with men so that that doesn't happen.
02:06:46.000 Dude, you're playing such word games right now.
02:06:48.000 You said earlier that if you live with a woman, it will make you a worse man.
02:06:51.000 It's more likely for that to happen.
02:06:52.000 It's easier to maintain frame if you're not living with your woman all the time.
02:06:56.000 I'm going to repeat it again.
02:06:56.000 You said if you live with a woman, it will make you a worse man.
02:06:58.000 Makes you more attractive.
02:06:59.000 No, no, you said earlier, you guys were all saying earlier, it will make you a worse man.
02:07:02.000 It softens you up.
02:07:03.000 It does soften you up.
02:07:03.000 But why can't you just make better choices?
02:07:05.000 Yeah.
02:07:06.000 Yeah, making better choices by getting out of the house more.
02:07:09.000 Okay, two, then children should make better choices by having better parents and not being fat when they're five.
02:07:12.000 What?
02:07:13.000 What type of goalposts are you moving now?
02:07:15.000 What are you talking about?
02:07:16.000 You're saying that as a man, you're also more capable of making decisions than children.
02:07:20.000 You said adults aren't capable.
02:07:21.000 That's why they have to stay away from their women because if they stay near their women, that environment will destroy them.
02:07:24.000 Alright, let's stay on top of it.
02:07:25.000 Let's stay on top of it.
02:07:26.000 You argue to argue, man.
02:07:27.000 I'm done.
02:07:28.000 That's what you guys are saying.
02:07:29.000 Ms.
02:07:29.000 Howard University, you were saying that there's racism in the medical industry because what?
02:07:34.000 I'm sorry, that they label women as being obese?
02:07:37.000 Sorry.
02:07:38.000 No, I did not start this discussion on Black women and obesity.
02:07:43.000 There's a plethora of reasons, actually, and the research really exists, and I'm not going to go into all of it.
02:07:49.000 It is almost 1 a.m., and I do have work in the morning, but...
02:07:53.000 The research is out there and Google is free.
02:07:56.000 The stats are very real.
02:07:58.000 There's a lot of social issues that surround it.
02:08:01.000 There's a lot of socioeconomic differences that impact that.
02:08:04.000 If you want to even start discussing obesity, socioeconomic status directly impacts the access to the quality of food that you're able to eat.
02:08:11.000 So a lot of people in the Black community, they struggle with obesity because if you're in a low-income society, You are typically eating a lot of fast food out of necessity because you can't afford to go to the nearest Whole Foods.
02:08:24.000 You can't afford to go to Publix.
02:08:26.000 That's a very real issue.
02:08:27.000 In New York City, for example, they say that the projects are right next to the Whole Foods.
02:08:32.000 It's literally like two blocks away.
02:08:33.000 It's about if you can afford it, not the proximity to the Whole Foods.
02:08:37.000 Yeah, I know.
02:08:37.000 But after 2020, you've got all these government benefits.
02:08:39.000 You've got all these unemployment checks.
02:08:41.000 And what do they spend it on?
02:08:41.000 Weed?
02:08:42.000 Wrapper weed?
02:08:44.000 Rental cars.
02:08:45.000 Just garbage.
02:08:47.000 Nobody invested that money properly.
02:08:48.000 All the people in the hood that got all these unemployment checks and got all these government stimulus checks, they spent it on weed.
02:08:53.000 They didn't go and go to Whole Foods.
02:08:55.000 How many people from the hood went to Whole Foods with those unemployment checks?
02:08:58.000 First of all, that's not what I'm saying.
02:09:00.000 I'm talking about stats.
02:09:02.000 You can go break it down to an individual level, but I'm talking about statistically, and that's what I'm saying.
02:09:06.000 That's what exists, and that's what you could Google, and that's what you could research.
02:09:09.000 This narrative is why they start pushing towards slavery reparations.
02:09:13.000 If you're going to make an argument on the show, you can't sit there and say Google it and then not stand for what you're trying to claim and say, I'm tired.
02:09:19.000 No, it's just because I grew up in the hood, low income, and I'm not fat.
02:09:23.000 Nobody in my family is fat.
02:09:25.000 It doesn't matter if you're eating fast food.
02:09:26.000 If you have discipline, you go to the gym, you can eat fast food.
02:09:28.000 Wait, so now we're doing the exception thing?
02:09:30.000 I'm saying, can I finish first?
02:09:32.000 Oh, I didn't know we were doing the exception thing now.
02:09:34.000 What about me personally?
02:09:35.000 What I'm saying is you can, as a person, make better choices.
02:09:39.000 You can eat McDonald's every day and if you're still going to the gym, you're not necessarily going to be fat.
02:09:43.000 It doesn't matter about your income.
02:09:44.000 You can buy fruit.
02:09:46.000 They have fruit cups at fast food places too.
02:09:48.000 Starbucks has it.
02:09:49.000 McDonald's has it.
02:09:50.000 You can choose healthy depending on your income and still discipline yourself.
02:09:54.000 If you can't afford a gym membership, you could go to the beach, you can exercise.
02:09:57.000 They have public gyms at the parks.
02:09:59.000 So that's a cult.
02:10:00.000 There's no excuse.
02:10:02.000 Black people are just lazy.
02:10:03.000 But it's smart.
02:10:05.000 First off, let's not go into stereotypes.
02:10:12.000 Hey, you started stereotyping the nurses.
02:10:14.000 You brought up statistics on stereotypes.
02:10:17.000 You brought up statistics on stereotypes.
02:10:19.000 That's very real.
02:10:19.000 Okay, because you're stereotyping the doctors.
02:10:21.000 But you know what's going to hold you back more than the doctors.
02:10:23.000 I didn't say doctors are racist.
02:10:24.000 Fine.
02:10:25.000 But in the medical industry, you know what's going to hold you back more?
02:10:28.000 Then thinking that the doctors and the hospitals are KKK is that victim mindset.
02:10:32.000 Slavery reparations, they're trying to advocate towards that right now in San Francisco and these places.
02:10:35.000 As soon as they get the slavery reparations, they're not going to go to Whole Foods with that money.
02:10:38.000 They're going to go right to the Jordan store.
02:10:40.000 You can do both.
02:10:41.000 You can simultaneously recognize that it's really hard to overcome your environment while still advocating for making good decisions.
02:10:45.000 Like, You guys are supposed to pretend like environment doesn't matter, but you all realize how important environment is.
02:10:49.000 That's why even though I was roasting you for it earlier, it is good to live with guys or at least have a network of guys that are pushing you to be better.
02:10:55.000 Because left to their own devices, a guy will be fucking lazy.
02:10:57.000 You'll sit on the couch, you'll smoke weed, you'll do nothing all day.
02:10:59.000 But when you're surrounded by other people that are driving you to do better, then you're going to do better.
02:11:02.000 Not necessarily because you're making better decisions, which you are, but because you've got people pushing you.
02:11:06.000 And from ages 0 to 18, if you've got somebody pushing your whole life to have a routine, to have discipline, to go to the gym, to eat healthy, when that person turns 19, to pretend like they're making the same choice as another person that turns 19 who was given horrible discipline their whole life, it's just not true.
02:11:19.000 One guy basically had his whole roadmap laid out.
02:11:21.000 Yeah, but you've got to have the capability of realizing this is a shitty environment and get the hell out of it.
02:11:26.000 I understand what you're saying, but what I'm telling you is that a guy that weighs, a guy that's like reasonably fit or whatever, that is 19 years old, that was in an easy family his whole fucking life, that dude might be a worse guy than a guy who's like 240 pounds,
02:11:42.000 working on losing weight, you know, who comes from a shittier background.
02:11:46.000 But like, if you look at them both, you say, well, the one guy is doing better, so he's a better person, but he's not making harder choices, not making better decisions.
02:11:51.000 It was given to him his whole life.
02:11:52.000 Here's the point.
02:11:53.000 You cannot make an excuse for being fat.
02:11:54.000 You could say it's racism or whatever it may be.
02:11:56.000 There's no excuse why black women are 5'5", average height, and 185 pounds.
02:12:00.000 That's more than a man.
02:12:01.000 That's unacceptable.
02:12:02.000 It's not about making excuses.
02:12:04.000 They don't have access to healthy food!
02:12:08.000 They've done studies.
02:12:09.000 They've literally done studies with this where they fed people McDonald's every single day and that person ate a calorie deficit exercise and their blood markers still improve and their health improve by eating in a calorie deficit.
02:12:18.000 This is the problem, right, when it comes to black men or whatever.
02:12:20.000 They always want to point the fucking finger at other people for why they're not where they want to be.
02:12:23.000 I am poor because of the man.
02:12:24.000 I am fat because of the man.
02:12:26.000 No, you're just fucking stupid.
02:12:27.000 You took your stimulus check, go bought some new fucking Jordans, instead of investing it in something else.
02:12:30.000 That's the reality, okay?
02:12:32.000 The black community, a lot of times, has a victim mindset as to why they're not where they want to fucking be, and they blame race for it every single time.
02:12:38.000 I would argue black people nowadays have more opportunities than a lot of other races, thanks to affirmative action, etc., You went to a historically black college.
02:12:45.000 Is a white person going to get that opportunity?
02:12:47.000 No.
02:12:48.000 We don't complain about racism.
02:12:49.000 White people don't need it.
02:12:50.000 HBCUs are not bridging the education.
02:12:52.000 I was about to say, please let's not get in the HBCU debate.
02:12:54.000 I'm saying y'all have entire colleges dedicated to you.
02:12:57.000 Is there a historically white college out there?
02:12:58.000 No.
02:12:59.000 Why do HBCUs exist?
02:13:01.000 Why?
02:13:02.000 Go ahead.
02:13:02.000 Does anyone know?
02:13:04.000 Go ahead.
02:13:04.000 Because of racism, right?
02:13:05.000 Black people were not allowed entry into any university in this country.
02:13:10.000 I go to the University of Miami.
02:13:14.000 Two generations ago, I wouldn't be able to.
02:13:16.000 Yeah, but the creation of HBCUs was because of a lack of resources and access to the Black community.
02:13:23.000 So these institutions were created for us to be able to receive an education and escape these low-income environments that y'all are talking about.
02:13:31.000 It was created for that.
02:13:33.000 You have it now.
02:13:33.000 Yeah.
02:13:34.000 And there are white people that go to HBCUs.
02:13:37.000 There are white people that attend Howard University.
02:13:39.000 I had white classmates.
02:13:41.000 And honestly, if we're going to boil it down to it, they get better scholarships at those HBCUs because they're diverse at that institution.
02:13:48.000 That's the same thing for minorities at white-dominated schools.
02:13:50.000 Yes, and there's nothing wrong with that.
02:13:52.000 But what I'm saying is they're not barred entry just because they're white.
02:13:55.000 All I'm saying is that when we look at life, okay, you look at how people are doing now, but that's not always fair.
02:14:00.000 If you take a working class poor fuck and they come from that family, that person has accomplished just as much in life as a middle class person who came from a middle class family.
02:14:08.000 They're both just on their tracks doing the same shit, but you'll give the middle class guy so much more credit, even though he hasn't done shit with his life.
02:14:13.000 He just followed the path that was laid out before him.
02:14:14.000 But when we see like a poor person or a fat person or whatever that was fat from birth, Like, we just say, like, oh, like, they're making bad shit decisions.
02:14:21.000 But, like, the middle class person sits middle class their whole life.
02:14:21.000 They're fucking life up.
02:14:24.000 It's doing the same shit as the lower class person sits lower class their whole life.
02:14:26.000 But we have a hard time accepting that.
02:14:28.000 But, yeah, I get that.
02:14:28.000 But they can't afford to make the same mistakes that the middle class person is starting at a deficit.
02:14:32.000 And my thing is, again...
02:14:35.000 Yeah, man.
02:14:36.000 Whether you're born poor or you come in from a family where they didn't teach you nutrition, you can learn all this shit as an adult.
02:14:40.000 It's on you to become an adult and learn this shit and become better than your parents did.
02:14:44.000 I agree with that, but it's harder.
02:14:46.000 It's harder because you have to focus so much on...
02:14:51.000 Can I talk?
02:14:52.000 You have to focus so much on trying to better your life because you're not getting as many opportunities as other people.
02:14:58.000 So it's not about being lazy.
02:14:59.000 They want to work hard.
02:15:00.000 They want to move up in companies, but they're not getting those opportunities just because of the mere fact that the company doesn't want that base.
02:15:06.000 That's not true.
02:15:07.000 If you're a colored person in the United States now, No, but if you look at it, if you look at it, when black dollars stopped spending money, that one day they decided to move people up in their companies because they had less than about 2% that was anywhere from the first level.
02:15:23.000 Because the reality is the reality of the world that we live in.
02:15:27.000 What I'm saying is that the reason that they seem lazy is not that they're choosing to be that way.
02:15:32.000 They're trying to work hard, but they're not getting those opportunities.
02:15:34.000 All they can focus on is trying to fix their lives and benefit themselves financially.
02:15:39.000 So it's really harder to try to work out when you have to work two to three jobs and you make no time for yourself but sleeping, eating, and working.
02:15:46.000 I hear a bunch of wah, wah, wah, wah.
02:15:48.000 But it's not a wah, wah, wah.
02:15:49.000 It's not a wah, wah, wah.
02:15:51.000 It's reality.
02:15:54.000 No, no, it's not.
02:15:55.000 Because here's the thing.
02:15:56.000 That a lot of you guys keep making the mistake of making.
02:15:59.000 When I was an agent and I was on the border and I saw people fucking crawling to come to the United States, being in the back of trucks, dying through heat exhaustion, getting fucking, uh, drowning in the Rio Grande River, etc.
02:16:09.000 These people are dying to come to the United States to have the same opportunity that you guys are fucking crying and bitching about right now.
02:16:13.000 Okay, so how about this?
02:16:13.000 Hold on, let me finish my point.
02:16:14.000 Go ahead.
02:16:15.000 There is no fucking excuse to be broke, fat, a loser in the United States because there's people that literally die for that opportunity, but you guys want to sit here and talk about Systematic racism!
02:16:23.000 No, it's fucked up!
02:16:24.000 HBCUs because of racism, blah blah blah.
02:16:26.000 People died to come and get the opportunities that you guys are bitching about right now, which is ridiculous because I've seen children die on their way here to have these opportunities that you guys are whining about right now.
02:16:34.000 At the end of the day, the United States is still the best country in the world, whatever you guys want to say.
02:16:37.000 And I would say we've cracked a lot of these racism things that you guys are talking about now, and people of color and people that are different have more opportunity than the same white people that oppressed you guys systematically for all these years that you keep bitching about.
02:16:47.000 White supremacy is a lie.
02:16:48.000 That's the problem.
02:16:48.000 Y'all keep crying about The past, the past, the past!
02:16:50.000 But what about now?
02:16:51.000 Now, Black people have more opportunities than ever before.
02:16:53.000 If you apply for a job, and he applies for a job, you're probably gonna get that job even though you might be less qualified than him because he's a white male.
02:16:58.000 That's the reality.
02:16:59.000 So I don't want to hear no more fucking bitching from people of color.
02:17:02.000 At all.
02:17:02.000 Especially if you're born here in the United States.
02:17:04.000 It's not.
02:17:04.000 And you mentioned opportunity.
02:17:06.000 You know how many immigrants come here and take over because you guys are lazy?
02:17:09.000 And it's not because they are not white.
02:17:10.000 Immigrants come here and laugh at the Black community because you guys say all this dumb shit.
02:17:13.000 We're Black too.
02:17:14.000 We literally laugh at y'all.
02:17:15.000 But we made a choice.
02:17:15.000 You know what?
02:17:16.000 Grab it!
02:17:16.000 I don't want to be poor.
02:17:17.000 My family's poor back home.
02:17:18.000 I want to change that.
02:17:19.000 It's a choice you got to make.
02:17:21.000 But like, for example, my uncle, he is a lawyer.
02:17:21.000 It is a choice.
02:17:24.000 He went to school, did all of that.
02:17:26.000 He went into a white law firm.
02:17:28.000 They did not give him any cases because of the simple fact that he's black.
02:17:32.000 Yes.
02:17:32.000 So the reality...
02:17:33.000 He might have been less qualified.
02:17:34.000 It's not less qualified.
02:17:35.000 How do you know that?
02:17:36.000 It's not less qualified at all.
02:17:37.000 Based on what?
02:17:38.000 He was a brand new lawyer, right?
02:17:39.000 Was he new?
02:17:40.000 No.
02:17:41.000 And what I'm saying is he went to a different law firm and got everything that he needed because that one was more diverse.
02:17:48.000 You said he went to a law firm, which means he's new.
02:17:55.000 It's the fact that people can get depressed and focus more.
02:18:00.000 No, it's true though.
02:18:01.000 People can get depressed and focus more on the fact that they're not getting...
02:18:04.000 Depression, racism, obesity.
02:18:06.000 It's true though.
02:18:06.000 Men too.
02:18:07.000 Men, when they're with women and they're not providing and doing what they're supposed to, they get depressed, they get fat.
02:18:11.000 People lose the ability to do anything.
02:18:18.000 He didn't get opportunity at his first place.
02:18:20.000 But what did he do?
02:18:21.000 He moved somewhere else.
02:18:22.000 What did he get?
02:18:23.000 More opportunity.
02:18:24.000 So it's still a choice.
02:18:25.000 So ultimately speaking, yeah, he didn't get the case.
02:18:27.000 But that still proves the case that it's hard to find opportunity.
02:18:30.000 No!
02:18:30.000 He made a choice to make a change.
02:18:32.000 Ultimately speaking, he's depressed.
02:18:33.000 Who gives a fuck?
02:18:33.000 He made a change.
02:18:36.000 Who cares?
02:18:37.000 Life is not easy!
02:18:38.000 Life is not easy!
02:18:39.000 Life has varying levels of difficulty depending on who you are going for.
02:18:43.000 Explain to me how immigrants come here, don't speak the language, figure it out, go to college, get an education.
02:18:50.000 Why are black Africans, right, from Africa doing way better than African Americans?
02:18:54.000 It's not race!
02:18:56.000 It's not race!
02:18:56.000 The people that are willing to cross the fucking Atlantic Ocean, you're already selecting for a high Hyper, hyper, hyper.
02:19:01.000 Do you think poor people from fucking Kenya are coming to the United States?
02:19:04.000 They are.
02:19:04.000 No, they're not.
02:19:05.000 It's typically the most...
02:19:06.000 Dude, Nigerians in the United States are the highest immigrant group of PhDs.
02:19:09.000 More than white people, more than Chinese people, more than anybody else.
02:19:11.000 Typically, the people that are immigrating from across the ocean to come to the United States are not the poor fucking people in the villages that we see on fucking commercials.
02:19:17.000 A lot of time there, though.
02:19:18.000 No, don't say a lot.
02:19:19.000 That's not true.
02:19:20.000 A lot of time there, though.
02:19:20.000 That's not true.
02:19:20.000 A lot of time there, though.
02:19:21.000 Betray you.
02:19:22.000 That's not true.
02:19:23.000 Some of your most highly educated groups of people in the United States are people from Kenya, are people from Nigeria, are people from these African countries because they're all the wealthiest people that are coming over with high degrees and a lot of education.
02:19:33.000 I don't know what you're talking about.
02:19:35.000 You might say, oh yeah, they have money in their country or whatever.
02:19:37.000 They're still poor though.
02:19:39.000 In the grand scheme of things, they're still poor.
02:19:41.000 Wikipedia, like, income level per, like, fucking ethnic group.
02:19:45.000 My point is this.
02:19:46.000 Africans can come here, right?
02:19:48.000 And they're black too.
02:19:49.000 Why are they successful when they're not dealing with it?
02:19:51.000 Because they're black.
02:19:52.000 They're not African-American.
02:19:54.000 So you're telling me the police know the difference between Dikembe and fucking Jamal?
02:19:58.000 The police are not the main reason why African Americans have trouble in the United States.
02:20:04.000 The main reason is a history of segregation of the country and a devaluing of a family's ability to build generational wealth.
02:20:11.000 It is color.
02:20:12.000 No, it's not fuck color.
02:20:13.000 The problem is the history you have in your family.
02:20:15.000 When I go into a job and it's me and him, what do they see?
02:20:18.000 Black.
02:20:19.000 It doesn't matter if I'm from Africa or America.
02:20:21.000 This is the level one racist talk.
02:20:22.000 Nobody gives a fuck about this.
02:20:23.000 This is why the experience of an African immigrant in the United States is way different than the experience of an African American.
02:20:28.000 If you're an African immigrant, you might as well be white or fucking European.
02:20:32.000 What?
02:20:32.000 Yes.
02:20:33.000 What are you talking about?
02:20:33.000 Just what part of that do you understand?
02:20:34.000 If you're an African immigrant coming to the United States, your outcomes in life, the places that you live, the education you have, you're more on par with an upper-class white person than you are with a person who's a descendant of the slave.
02:20:43.000 So you're saying the biggest difference is the mindset.
02:20:44.000 It's not the circumstances, not the environment.
02:20:46.000 No, it's not the mindset.
02:20:46.000 It's the families that you come from.
02:20:47.000 Somebody that comes from a family that's driven enough to get their children or themselves to move to the United States from Africa, this is a highly driven family.
02:20:53.000 This is a lot different than somebody whose great-grandparents weren't allowed to buy a house in the city because they were redlined out by a bank in the United States.
02:20:59.000 Highly driven is a mindset.
02:21:01.000 Bro.
02:21:01.000 Literally speaking, I get what you're saying, but you can't say that because people might get inspired from watching a TV show.
02:21:07.000 They might see a friend.
02:21:08.000 You don't know why they came here.
02:21:09.000 So you can't really say that.
02:21:10.000 No, but I'm saying you're selecting for the people that were inspired enough to come over.
02:21:13.000 I mean, typically speaking, people coming over here, it's because they're going through intense hardship and the risk of coming over here is worth more than the pain that they're in, where they're currently coming from, right?
02:21:22.000 And so- Wait a second.
02:21:23.000 No, you go on.
02:21:24.000 You're fine.
02:21:24.000 Well, I was gonna say, like, it's not the people that are suffering the most hardship that are able to make that move.
02:21:28.000 That's a really big move coming from Africa to the United States.
02:21:31.000 An average poor person that lives in fucking Sub-Saharan Africa is not like, oh, I'm gonna go try my luck in the U.S. I'm not talking about resources.
02:21:36.000 I'm saying the mentality.
02:21:38.000 Like, somebody literally needs to be like, okay, me doing this and making this crazy move is worth more of a risk than me staying in my current situation, which is obviously very shitty.
02:21:46.000 Does anyone else have anything?
02:21:47.000 Because I want to make sure...
02:21:48.000 We're getting some heavy fucking topics here.
02:21:50.000 Red, white, green...
02:21:54.000 Y'all in the corner haven't said shit.
02:21:56.000 I do.
02:21:57.000 I just like...
02:21:57.000 I don't know when to chime in.
02:22:00.000 I mean, what do you got?
02:22:01.000 Go ahead.
02:22:01.000 Chime in now.
02:22:02.000 You got it.
02:22:05.000 No, I was just going to say, so I think that people come here because, yeah, like he was saying, I do agree.
02:22:10.000 Like their family has a different mindset.
02:22:12.000 So that mindset that they grow up with pushes them to want to come here and they come here with that mindset.
02:22:18.000 And I think that coming to America, there's more opportunity so they can really like flourish because they're coming from a mindset that's like, they're already coming here with that mindset.
02:22:28.000 They're not stuck in any like habitual, like routine, like, you know, The lower class people in America who, you know, live in, they're around that every day.
02:22:37.000 They're in that environment every day.
02:22:38.000 So they don't have the same aspirations as someone who's sent here from a family.
02:22:42.000 So therefore they deserve to be poor and fat.
02:22:45.000 That's my argument.
02:22:47.000 The United States is a meritocracy.
02:22:49.000 It's not fair.
02:22:50.000 Life isn't fair.
02:22:51.000 I think if you're fat and you don't have money, that's your fucking fault.
02:22:54.000 There's no excuse for that.
02:22:55.000 It's not the color of your skin or the language you speak or the religion you practice.
02:22:59.000 It's that you're just a fucking loser.
02:23:00.000 But we don't want to tell people that they're losers anymore.
02:23:02.000 We really don't.
02:23:02.000 We want to give everyone an excuse for why they're mediocre.
02:23:05.000 I refuse to accept the fact that people are mediocre or losers because of their race.
02:23:09.000 No, they make mediocre decisions.
02:23:11.000 My only point is that if you're a middle class person, you end up a middle class person.
02:23:14.000 You made mediocre decisions too.
02:23:15.000 You just didn't get punished for it.
02:23:17.000 But you don't have to because you guys aren't calling middle class people losers.
02:23:21.000 You're like, oh, good job.
02:23:21.000 You're doing a good job.
02:23:22.000 They're not doing a better job.
02:23:23.000 But they're not going to get the same amount of respect.
02:23:25.000 Yeah, but also there's no excuse nowadays.
02:23:29.000 There's so much information on the internet.
02:23:30.000 If someone wants to change, go watch a YouTube video on how to diet.
02:23:34.000 There you go.
02:23:36.000 It talks about, it's not your genetics, it's your environment.
02:23:36.000 Epigenetics.
02:23:40.000 It's new modern science that people, and it's readily available.
02:23:43.000 Life is happening at a faster rate.
02:23:45.000 There's no excuse for people anymore.
02:23:48.000 So if someone wants to change, they just have to put the effort into doing it.
02:23:51.000 Do you have something, Red?
02:23:52.000 I mean, I feel like if you really want to do something, you put your mind to it.
02:23:56.000 Then, um, you can achieve it.
02:23:59.000 I mean, obviously, like, to an extent, but, like, me personally, like, say, like, I say, like, oh, I want to go and, like, have a better body, right?
02:24:07.000 If I really want to have a better body, and I'm really dedicated to it, I'll do it.
02:24:12.000 So, if you want to do something, you're gonna go and do it.
02:24:14.000 There's really no excuse, like, especially now, like, in modern days.
02:24:18.000 Fair enough.
02:24:19.000 Anybody else got anything?
02:24:20.000 Miss Howard University?
02:24:22.000 More chats.
02:24:23.000 I'm finished.
02:24:25.000 I agree a lot with her because I think if I'm a hard worker person, if I'm focused, I can get whatever I want.
02:24:36.000 It's just like that.
02:24:37.000 I'm Venezuelan, okay?
02:24:38.000 And I come here to this country because I know here I'm going to get more opportunities.
02:24:43.000 I'm going to be better here.
02:24:45.000 I can do what I want.
02:24:47.000 So I think it's a mentality thing.
02:24:51.000 All right.
02:24:52.000 We got Tim Nura.
02:24:53.000 He has Lloyd from Tilda of Symphonia.
02:24:56.000 What?
02:24:57.000 The game.
02:24:58.000 I was like, what the hell?
02:25:01.000 Okay, can we get some women speaking up instead of the simping aroma that Destiny is spewing?
02:25:05.000 Jeez, it's like arguing with Destiny versus getting women's opinions, which is it holy?
02:25:09.000 Well, bro, the women don't want to talk.
02:25:10.000 I don't know what to tell you.
02:25:11.000 We try to tell them to see if they want to talk.
02:25:13.000 I found FNF. I became a fan.
02:25:15.000 I found Destiny.
02:25:15.000 I became a fan.
02:25:16.000 I found Sneeko.
02:25:16.000 I was on the fence.
02:25:17.000 He started hanging with FNF. I wasn't a fan, but now he has become open-minded watching him and Destiny Body Roller.
02:25:23.000 You have a new subscriber.
02:25:24.000 Also, Dom is fire.
02:25:25.000 We'll DM. What?
02:25:26.000 Dom?
02:25:27.000 Oh, okay.
02:25:27.000 Who's Dom?
02:25:28.000 The lawyer.
02:25:29.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:25:30.000 That's my name.
02:25:31.000 Okay.
02:25:32.000 Well, hopefully you'll have better arguments for him.
02:25:35.000 Why you don't want to go on a date with him?
02:25:37.000 All right.
02:25:38.000 Where are we at here?
02:25:38.000 Soul Snatch Store.
02:25:39.000 Shout out to Wayne.
02:25:40.000 Is that what it is?
02:25:41.000 Oh, yeah.
02:25:41.000 Shout out to Wayne.
02:25:42.000 Appreciate that.
02:25:44.000 Should you reward your main girl with something spicy?
02:25:47.000 What should your girl surprise you with as a high-value man?
02:25:49.000 Whatever you need.
02:25:50.000 That's her job to figure out, bro.
02:25:52.000 Her job is to come in and see what you have going on in your life.
02:25:55.000 She can figure it out.
02:25:56.000 If men did not cheat, then the condom industry would be out of business.
02:25:59.000 Just saying.
02:25:59.000 Okay.
02:26:00.000 Kind of shrugged.
02:26:01.000 Education and length of a relationship doesn't matter when you want us to defend your life as men should.
02:26:10.000 Zena acting like a pick-me right now.
02:26:12.000 Being a pick-me is a good thing.
02:26:14.000 I think so, too.
02:26:15.000 That's not a bad insult.
02:26:17.000 There's no way you would only fantasize about Sneeko while he's out committing haram.
02:26:21.000 Also, Sneeko mentioned RP doesn't teach you to be a good dad.
02:26:23.000 Don't you think part of being a good dad is being a good husband?
02:26:27.000 Yeah, it goes hand in hand, but I don't think marriage is worthwhile in the West anymore, so it's hard to really equate being a good husband.
02:26:32.000 Here's the thing.
02:26:33.000 I disagree wholeheartedly with this whole pick-me thing.
02:26:36.000 I think it's a tactic to shame women to get into relationships with men.
02:26:39.000 Because at the end of the day, if a girl wants a man to pick her, she's got to become a girl.
02:26:43.000 That's basically a pick-me.
02:26:44.000 She's got a piece of what that guy wants.
02:26:46.000 I think this whole single, strong, independent woman narrative of you do what you want and the guy's going to be there at the end of the day, that's not good advice.
02:26:53.000 In Japan, all the girls are pick-me's.
02:26:54.000 They want to be picked really badly.
02:26:56.000 They want to be able to go and serve a man.
02:26:58.000 It's not a bad thing over there.
02:26:59.000 They're actually rewarded for that.
02:27:02.000 That's actually wrong.
02:27:03.000 They're more career-driven right now in Japan.
02:27:05.000 Everybody's feminine, even the men.
02:27:06.000 I've studied Japanese culture since I was 12.
02:27:08.000 The women don't want to be wives in Japan in most cases.
02:27:11.000 Their studies, they have the documentaries about it and all of that.
02:27:15.000 They are career-driven because they don't want to be stuck in the house anymore.
02:27:17.000 It's getting harder right now because it's getting more industrialized, but they do want to be wives.
02:27:21.000 As far as I know, since 2012 and studying since then, they've wanted to be career driven and the men are very feminine.
02:27:27.000 That's why they're not.
02:27:28.000 Real quick question.
02:27:29.000 Let me ask a question to ladies.
02:27:31.000 Is being a pick me bad in your take?
02:27:33.000 Raise a hand if you think it's bad being a pick me girl.
02:27:36.000 I still don't fully get what it means.
02:27:39.000 A pick me is a girl that throws other women out of the bust when they approve of men.
02:27:44.000 That's a pick me.
02:27:45.000 A pick me is a girl going like, oh yeah, other women are dumb bitches.
02:27:56.000 I'm not like other women.
02:27:57.000 Pick me.
02:27:57.000 That's what a pick me is.
02:28:00.000 So pick me literally means pick me.
02:28:04.000 No, no.
02:28:04.000 That's not how anybody uses pick me.
02:28:06.000 Pick me is a woman that will conform her ideals subjected behind a man that she wants to be with.
02:28:12.000 That's okay.
02:28:12.000 No, no, no.
02:28:13.000 I understand what you're saying.
02:28:13.000 You're saying people don't...
02:28:15.000 Well, for example, they don't want to hear it.
02:28:17.000 They want to see action.
02:28:18.000 So when you say it out loud, it's like, why are you saying it out loud?
02:28:20.000 But if you do an action, that's what you're saying.
02:28:22.000 Because shooting on other girls, even girls that aren't pick me's do that.
02:28:25.000 Let's be honest.
02:28:26.000 If a girl doesn't like another chick, that bitch is a hoe or whatever and she'll bring her down to bring herself up.
02:28:30.000 Sure, I know.
02:28:30.000 We can use a different term, but when people say pick me, it's an insult.
02:28:33.000 That's what they mean when they say Yeah, but I'm saying, like, do the girls here think Pick Me is an insult?
02:28:37.000 I think of pick me in the same way that he described it and that therefore I don't think whatever your preferences makes you bad like I said earlier I think we all have different preferences all have different things we want out of life relationships whatever we're all like doing our own thing so I don't think it's bad I do think it's negative to shame other women for their preferences though and I think that goes both ways if you're more a traditional woman shaming a modern woman if you're a modern woman shaming a traditional woman I think that is bad yeah So you disagree with the shaming in general?
02:29:08.000 Yeah, I don't think that we should be shaming other women that we disagree with.
02:29:12.000 I think we both can live our different lives.
02:29:15.000 What the next girl is doing does not impact me and my day-to-day.
02:29:18.000 I disagree.
02:29:18.000 I think shaming is very good.
02:29:20.000 Do you think that we should shame women for posting almost naked photos on Instagram?
02:29:25.000 I think if you have a problem with that and you're in a relationship with your woman, you should discuss that with her.
02:29:30.000 No, you think women should shame other women for being slutty on Instagram?
02:29:34.000 No.
02:29:34.000 No.
02:29:34.000 No, I mean, what I choose to post, like, I don't post that type of content, but, like, if someone else does, that's none of my business.
02:29:44.000 Yeah.
02:29:44.000 I disagree.
02:29:45.000 I think it's good if people keep each other in line and shaming is a good tactic for that.
02:29:48.000 Like, that's the same reason why I think it's okay to, why it's good to live with other men because if you start being a lazy piece of shit, they're gonna shame you for being a lazy piece of shit.
02:29:55.000 Start working out right now.
02:29:55.000 Start becoming better.
02:29:57.000 We all, everybody here agrees that shaming is good.
02:29:59.000 It's just a matter of- No, they don't agree.
02:30:00.000 No, no.
02:30:01.000 They absolutely do.
02:30:02.000 Do you think shaming is good?
02:30:03.000 Hold on.
02:30:03.000 Do you think you should shame people for wanting to fuck kids?
02:30:11.000 All of us agree that shaming is good, it's just what do you shame people for?
02:30:15.000 What he's also trying to say is context matters in what we're talking about shaming.
02:30:19.000 How did he just say that?
02:30:21.000 Because you guys are like, oh no, they don't believe shaming is good.
02:30:24.000 I'm sure they believe that shaming for a lot of behavior is good.
02:30:29.000 You said a specific thing, and I'm saying shaming for that, no.
02:30:36.000 A girl sexualizing herself.
02:30:38.000 He was very specific in the shaming and the girl said no.
02:30:41.000 I can walk you through the logic train if you want.
02:30:43.000 You asked her, you said, should we be shaming women for posting nudie pictures on Instagram?
02:30:48.000 And then she said, no, I don't think so.
02:30:50.000 And then you started saying broadly, oh, well, I think shame is good in society.
02:30:53.000 So for instance, bros shaming each other to work harder, blah, blah, blah.
02:30:55.000 And then you said, they don't agree with shaming.
02:30:57.000 You broadened it.
02:30:58.000 What she said is she doesn't agree with shaming women for posting nudie pictures on Instagram.
02:31:01.000 Not that she doesn't agree with the concept of shaming.
02:31:02.000 All of us agree that shaming to some extent is good.
02:31:04.000 There's a lot of antisocial behavior.
02:31:06.000 He said that shaming for nudie pictures.
02:31:08.000 But then he talked about shaming in terms of men driving other men to be better.
02:31:11.000 Use it as an example.
02:31:14.000 Does anybody here think that we shouldn't shame for anything?
02:31:16.000 The easy way out.
02:31:17.000 Posting half-naked photos on Instagram is taking the easy way out as women.
02:31:20.000 Being a lazy weed smoker gamer all day is an easy way out for men.
02:31:23.000 That's how I'm equating it.
02:31:24.000 And then you bring up fucking kids.
02:31:25.000 Because you're trying to make the claim that these women don't agree with shaming when that's not true.
02:31:30.000 Every person here would agree with shaming to some extent.
02:31:32.000 But he quantified it before.
02:31:33.000 He didn't quantify it.
02:31:34.000 He literally broadened it to men shaming other men.
02:31:36.000 No, no, no.
02:31:36.000 He didn't broaden it.
02:31:37.000 He used it as an example of how shaming could work.
02:31:40.000 Okay.
02:31:40.000 Nobody here is against shaming.
02:31:41.000 They were against shaming for that particular thing.
02:31:43.000 If you asked them before you brought up fucking kids, they all would have said, no, I'm not going to go tell anybody to do...
02:31:48.000 I'm not going to get involved in their choices.
02:31:49.000 That's what they all would have said.
02:31:50.000 They wouldn't have said that, though, because if you bring it up to a whole bunch of things, like fucking kids, for instance, they would say, no, I would shame people about that.
02:31:55.000 Why is that the example you're using?
02:31:56.000 Because it's the easiest one to point out how absurd your statement is.
02:31:59.000 Destiny, your new name is Details.
02:32:00.000 Okay?
02:32:01.000 All right, let's move on.
02:32:03.000 Deflect Destiny.
02:32:05.000 Deflect Destiny.
02:32:06.000 Deflect Destiny.
02:32:06.000 Yeah, Deflect Destiny.
02:32:09.000 Yo!
02:32:10.000 Bro, that was the weirdest argument I've ever heard of you make, bro.
02:32:13.000 That was a roller argument.
02:32:15.000 Oh, by the way, I was wrong about Japan.
02:32:18.000 I gotta say that.
02:32:18.000 You were wrong about Japan?
02:32:19.000 I was wrong.
02:32:19.000 The Bible does describe polygamy, but it's not prescribed.
02:32:22.000 Is that the same one?
02:32:23.000 Yeah, we read this.
02:32:24.000 Anthony Lewis, Destiny, you're almost more...
02:32:27.000 You're almost than the girls.
02:32:29.000 I don't know.
02:32:29.000 You're almost more girls than the girls.
02:32:31.000 More feminine, probably.
02:32:31.000 Guys tell girls what they want, and they tell us we're wrong.
02:32:34.000 Girl next to Fresh just told you what she would accept cheating under circumstances, and you coped and said only red pill girls would say that.
02:32:41.000 Get help.
02:32:43.000 Fair enough.
02:32:44.000 All right.
02:32:45.000 Are we going to turn to ladies now?
02:32:46.000 Yes.
02:32:47.000 All right.
02:32:48.000 Zina 100% wrong about Japanese women.
02:32:49.000 She's never even been to Japan.
02:32:55.000 I've been friends with Yukina since I was fucking 11 years old and she would tell me about the culture and then give me stuff to read.
02:33:01.000 I didn't know I was wrong.
02:33:02.000 I don't watch Naruto.
02:33:02.000 I hate Naruto.
02:33:04.000 I hate Naruto.
02:33:21.000 Play the rewind button.
02:33:22.000 I'm explaining to you now.
02:33:23.000 It's laziness.
02:33:24.000 Women posting their body on Instagram for random men is lazy when they could find a man that they really want to be with.
02:33:29.000 Men slacking up and smoking weed is lazy.
02:33:31.000 For the first time, I should agree with him.
02:33:40.000 It's because he's saying, right, that you said to her the prior statement, and then you made it very vague.
02:33:49.000 But the part about fucking kids, that's fucking weird, bro.
02:33:51.000 True.
02:33:51.000 Can you play the hallelujah sound?
02:33:54.000 Why are black men the most fit group of men?
02:33:57.000 Ooh.
02:33:58.000 Damn.
02:33:58.000 Okay.
02:33:59.000 While black women are fat?
02:34:00.000 Okay.
02:34:01.000 Being big is a choice, not a product of an environment.
02:34:03.000 Hey, man, I don't see black women in the gym.
02:34:05.000 I ain't gonna lie.
02:34:06.000 I really don't see them in there.
02:34:07.000 I'm not trying to be an asshole, but I've never seen them in the gym.
02:34:10.000 Never.
02:34:11.000 I see white girls and Spanish girls in there, but I don't see no black girls in there.
02:34:14.000 There's a couple of mine, but they're African.
02:34:16.000 There you go.
02:34:18.000 Okay, African-American women.
02:34:19.000 We don't see them in the gym.
02:34:20.000 Between the four major groups, whites, blacks, Espanols, and Orients times two for men and women equals eight groups.
02:34:27.000 Black women are the biggest.
02:34:28.000 Black men are in sixth place.
02:34:30.000 It's a choice black women are making.
02:34:31.000 Yeah.
02:34:32.000 There you go.
02:34:33.000 According to Blue's Logic, a racist childhood will make it impossible to turn it off as an adult, so it should be acceptable.
02:34:40.000 Just saying things rapidly and erroneously, but pushback will slow the conversation to a crawl fixing his points.
02:34:44.000 Acceptance.
02:34:46.000 Aaron Martinez goes, Lawyer Girl is right that fast food is cheaper and more easily accessible, but you still have personal responsibility.
02:34:52.000 You can always eat only half the Big Mac and not get the fries.
02:34:55.000 It's a racial thing.
02:34:56.000 And even if it was, so what?
02:34:57.000 Do better.
02:34:58.000 Do you have anything you want to say, Ms.
02:35:00.000 Howard?
02:35:02.000 I literally said like 10 minutes ago, I'm done debating that.
02:35:06.000 Then why are you here, bro?
02:35:07.000 Then why are you here?
02:35:08.000 No, there becomes a point where like you no longer argue with people that are committed to misunderstanding you.
02:35:14.000 So out of the value of all of our time, I'm not going to keep us here all night to go back and forth over something that we clearly disagree on.
02:35:21.000 We can just move on.
02:35:22.000 No, it's not about that.
02:35:24.000 My thing is, if you're going to make a stance and make a point, then the point of the podcast is to articulate your point.
02:35:29.000 Yeah, and I feel like I articulated my point.
02:35:31.000 We don't agree.
02:35:32.000 We can move on.
02:35:33.000 You didn't really articulate anything.
02:35:35.000 You said Google it.
02:35:36.000 No, and I literally said the stats exist that highlight the discrepancies in these industries.
02:35:40.000 Well, I don't have the stats memorized, so I don't want to regurgitate wrong information.
02:35:46.000 Saying Google it is like, okay, then you know the rest of us just make a point.
02:35:50.000 It's there!
02:35:50.000 Google it, bro!
02:35:51.000 But there's like We're talking about choices.
02:35:55.000 There's a choice that we all can make to make sure we're educated and make sure we read up on things.
02:36:01.000 We probably all have different areas that we read up on and learn about and want to be knowledgeable of.
02:36:07.000 So when I said Google it, it's like, on your time, if you want to learn more about that, which I take that you don't, you can go and read up on these stats.
02:36:15.000 But y'all are already committed to misunderstanding what I am saying.
02:36:19.000 I'm not going to make you agree with me.
02:36:23.000 I value my time.
02:36:26.000 And you might feel that way.
02:36:28.000 I don't.
02:36:28.000 I just value my time.
02:36:30.000 I have to go home.
02:36:32.000 Just go home right now.
02:36:34.000 Get out of here.
02:36:34.000 Just go home right now.
02:36:37.000 Bye, everyone.
02:36:38.000 It was nice to meet you.
02:36:39.000 I don't know what you think this is.
02:36:39.000 This is our shit.
02:36:40.000 You're not going to come in here and be like, I'm not going to waste my time.
02:36:43.000 I feel like we went back and forth to this point.
02:36:43.000 Then get out of here.
02:36:45.000 This is an opportunity for you, bro.
02:36:49.000 Get out of here.
02:36:50.000 Bye, queen.
02:36:50.000 Just leave.
02:36:51.000 Bye.
02:36:53.000 Bye.
02:36:53.000 Bye, Quinn.
02:36:54.000 What the fuck, man?
02:36:56.000 Ridiculous.
02:36:57.000 Okay, nice.
02:36:57.000 Where we at here?
02:37:00.000 Stanley.
02:37:01.000 Incredible.
02:37:02.000 Stanley Frederick.
02:37:04.000 Hey, Martin, I usually agree with you, but when it comes to race, you're dead wrong.
02:37:06.000 Black people ain't lazy.
02:37:08.000 That's a myth.
02:37:08.000 Black people don't have the same economic opportunities as other groups because of racism and discrimination, which you feel to realize...
02:37:14.000 Okay.
02:37:14.000 You're a fucking crybaby, bro.
02:37:17.000 Like, get the fuck out of here, man.
02:37:19.000 Please explain to me why black people are the most evicted class of people when it comes to paying rent.
02:37:23.000 Explain that to me.
02:37:24.000 And they are only 50% of the population.
02:37:27.000 Why did Walmart just move out of Chicago?
02:37:29.000 Like, get the fuck out of here with that, man.
02:37:30.000 Like...
02:37:33.000 It is what it is, man.
02:37:35.000 Let's continue on, Jake.
02:37:36.000 I feel like with you, it's only black or white.
02:37:38.000 Like, you can have contrast, you know?
02:37:40.000 Like, okay, you can say that black people are lazy or whatever, but you can also say that...
02:37:44.000 I'm not saying all, but there's a...
02:37:45.000 I mean, all people are lazy.
02:37:47.000 Yeah, but you can also say that the fact that you are a certain race in America, because...
02:37:54.000 We are in America.
02:37:56.000 You have less chances.
02:37:58.000 You can say that.
02:37:58.000 You can acknowledge that.
02:37:59.000 But there's no point in saying that because that's just going to keep holding you back.
02:38:02.000 Even if it is true that racism is holding you back, you believing it is going to hold you back even more.
02:38:06.000 So why even think that?
02:38:07.000 Why not just work harder?
02:38:07.000 No, but I'm not a lazy person.
02:38:09.000 I don't believe in that.
02:38:10.000 But I'm just saying, just brushing off is saying, oh, you're just lazy.
02:38:13.000 You're just lazy.
02:38:14.000 That's the best thing you can do.
02:38:15.000 How, though?
02:38:16.000 Because, okay, you can push someone, but you don't have to, like, just...
02:38:20.000 Brush off everything, you know?
02:38:22.000 I don't know.
02:38:22.000 I feel like you can acknowledge the fact that...
02:38:25.000 But that doesn't accomplish anything.
02:38:27.000 Acknowledging it and crying about racism.
02:38:29.000 Okay, shaming is not...
02:38:31.000 What's your solution?
02:38:33.000 I feel like change comes from within.
02:38:36.000 So if someone wants to change, they're going to change.
02:38:39.000 I don't feel like if you bully someone...
02:38:41.000 She's from France.
02:38:42.000 It's a failed society.
02:38:43.000 Socialists.
02:38:44.000 How can you say that?
02:38:45.000 France is...
02:38:46.000 Paris is burning.
02:38:49.000 She's saying this ridiculousness because she's from France.
02:38:53.000 It's a socialist country.
02:38:54.000 France is a grey country.
02:38:55.000 It's a terrible country.
02:38:56.000 It's a grey country.
02:38:57.000 Failed society.
02:38:58.000 Melt.
02:38:59.000 Melt.
02:39:01.000 Melt.
02:39:01.000 Melt.
02:39:01.000 I don't know.
02:39:02.000 No, I'm not agreeing.
02:39:12.000 France is a failed state when we've got people that die on the streets.
02:39:30.000 Yeah.
02:39:31.000 It's like insane to me.
02:39:32.000 The liberal cities in America are part of America, whether you like it or not.
02:39:37.000 And also, the downsides of socialism really only come out to play when there comes time for mass government control.
02:39:43.000 For example, with the incidences of the COVID stuff, Australia isn't exactly like a socialist state, but kind of teeters on the borderline.
02:39:50.000 Sure, France isn't socialist either.
02:39:51.000 They just have a lot of social programs.
02:39:52.000 Right.
02:39:53.000 Yeah.
02:39:54.000 Okay.
02:39:54.000 Which is why she's saying like, oh, people's circumstances are feelings.
02:39:57.000 That's not what I'm saying.
02:39:57.000 I'm saying that you're too much black or white.
02:39:59.000 Sometimes it's contrast.
02:40:00.000 I mean, you can say that, okay, you're lazy, but you can also say that you're...
02:40:03.000 It's very simple.
02:40:04.000 If you're fat and you don't have money...
02:40:06.000 By definition, you are lazy.
02:40:08.000 Okay, but I'm agreeing.
02:40:10.000 No, you're not.
02:40:11.000 I am, but you don't have to be black or white.
02:40:15.000 I can agree with you, but still say that if you come from a certain country, if you come from a certain environment, no, not feelings.
02:40:24.000 I'm talking facts.
02:40:25.000 It's bigger than black and white?
02:40:27.000 It's a problem with the whole way of life.
02:40:29.000 When you say feelings, it's because you're in your feelings.
02:40:31.000 You can't critically engage.
02:40:32.000 That's what you're doing, right?
02:40:33.000 You're in your feelings.
02:40:34.000 You can't critically engage with what she's saying.
02:40:35.000 What is she saying that's new besides just be more than black and white?
02:40:38.000 What I'm saying is it's easy to say that, oh, you're lazy.
02:40:42.000 Just get your life together.
02:40:44.000 Right, but it's not that black and white.
02:40:44.000 She said the same thing three times.
02:40:45.000 Land on the plane, man.
02:40:46.000 Goddamn.
02:40:46.000 What she's saying is that everybody should make the best choices, but not all choices are weighted evenly.
02:40:52.000 It's easy to make the right choice when you come from the right family, but it's hard to make the right choice.
02:40:55.000 What is the point in thinking that or saying that?
02:40:59.000 The point is that you should still always tell people to make the best choices.
02:41:03.000 Nobody's going to care about you except for you.
02:41:04.000 Leave it at that.
02:41:05.000 No, you can't just leave it at that.
02:41:06.000 Why not?
02:41:07.000 Because then when we look at the United States, we get people saying retarded shit like black people are lazy.
02:41:10.000 That's not true.
02:41:11.000 There's a reason why that is the case.
02:41:13.000 Unless you believe that black people or African Americans are genetically more fucked.
02:41:15.000 We didn't say all of them.
02:41:16.000 Sure, but I know, but when you look at the state of the United States, you've got to wonder, why are African Americans so funny and retorted?
02:41:21.000 So why are they?
02:41:22.000 Is it just because they happen to all be fucking lazy and stupid?
02:41:25.000 Or are there other reasons for that?
02:41:26.000 Yeah, but where does their culture come from?
02:41:26.000 It's the culture.
02:41:28.000 Is that because they're black?
02:41:29.000 Because Africans clearly come from their kids.
02:41:31.000 Exactly, that's true.
02:41:32.000 It's the culture.
02:41:33.000 Do you want to know where the culture comes from?
02:41:34.000 Yeah, where does the culture come from?
02:41:35.000 Who controls the music industry?
02:41:37.000 What is a lot of the music industry even in response to?
02:41:40.000 What were the first black rappers talking about?
02:41:41.000 Fuck the police!
02:41:42.000 Where did that come from?
02:41:43.000 That was part of the culture of being attacked by white police in the United States.
02:41:47.000 Who owns the labels?
02:41:48.000 Who pushes this culture?
02:41:49.000 Are we doing the Jewish shit right now?
02:41:51.000 If you really want to talk about it, who's pushing this culture?
02:41:56.000 It's not black people's fault.
02:41:58.000 It's Jewish people's fault.
02:41:59.000 No, I didn't say that.
02:42:00.000 Now we're really playing the blame game.
02:42:02.000 I didn't say that.
02:42:03.000 I'm going to say, who pushed the culture?
02:42:05.000 Can we say that word, then?
02:42:06.000 Why are you being anti-Semitic, Destiny?
02:42:08.000 I don't say that.
02:42:09.000 Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay.
02:42:10.000 Yeah, Rumble.
02:42:11.000 Yeah, we going to Rumble right now?
02:42:12.000 No, no, [...
02:42:14.000 Yeah, we're fine.
02:42:14.000 Now, we safe?
02:42:15.000 All right, we'll just end it there, then.
02:42:17.000 We love all people here.
02:42:19.000 I love all people, man.
02:42:20.000 Destiny, that was really anti-Semitic of you.
02:42:21.000 I love them too.
02:42:22.000 The labels make some good music.
02:42:25.000 J-Roll Gunner goes, Destiny is horribly wrong with his take on African immigrants to the West.
02:42:28.000 Rich Africans don't leave Africa.
02:42:30.000 True, only the poor ones.
02:42:31.000 Full Wee Todd goes, Also blacks come from the motherland and they average more money than white Americans.
02:42:38.000 My family had no money when they came.
02:42:39.000 Most of them that come here have no money.
02:42:41.000 It's a mindset, not money.
02:42:43.000 He knows the way.
02:42:44.000 Just Relax goes, I'm asking, my dad came here for the opportunity El Campo Myron is talking about, not knowing anything or anyone.
02:42:50.000 His net worth is in the low millions, now self-made.
02:42:53.000 He didn't complain, just got it done.
02:42:54.000 Absolutely, my friend.
02:42:54.000 It's a choice.
02:42:55.000 Three Diglets goes, the only lazy thing I see tonight is that eye.
02:43:03.000 You saw that?
02:43:05.000 Especially when she got funny, it's like, damn, I don't want to knock that out.
02:43:08.000 Guys, guys, don't talk shit.
02:43:11.000 What's just going on, right?
02:43:12.000 Shut up, Chris.
02:43:13.000 I think she was a nice young lady.
02:43:15.000 She just had...
02:43:16.000 She was a feminist.
02:43:18.000 And she's an independent girl boss queen.
02:43:19.000 I think she's a nice young lady.
02:43:22.000 She's a nice lady.
02:43:23.000 I'm Nigerian with a medical degree.
02:43:28.000 My dad was a poor farmer before coming to the U.S. on a student visa and became an accountant father after washing dishes to manual labor jobs to fund his education.
02:43:36.000 He experienced a lot of racism in the corporate world.
02:43:39.000 Tim Neroth goes, question for ladies.
02:43:41.000 Why is a dory more important in other countries and meaningful?
02:43:45.000 Oh, dory.
02:43:46.000 He spelled it wrong.
02:43:46.000 Okay.
02:43:48.000 Versus American women aren't worth a dowry.
02:43:48.000 Yeah.
02:43:50.000 I'm married to a real African woman born and raised and she acts more of a woman role.
02:43:55.000 Versus you know how you all act.
02:43:58.000 Jeez.
02:43:59.000 That's fine.
02:43:59.000 What is he trying to say?
02:44:00.000 He's saying that Western women are feminine.
02:44:02.000 Yeah, and they don't deserve a dowry.
02:44:03.000 Anything else?
02:44:04.000 No, cool.
02:44:04.000 No, cut up.
02:44:05.000 All right.
02:44:06.000 Fresh and free apart of the show.
02:44:07.000 Ladies, we'll do questions, comments, or live thoughts on the show.
02:44:11.000 How's the show for you?
02:44:12.000 We'll start right here.
02:44:14.000 I mean, it's always nice to be on this panel.
02:44:21.000 I always get new knowledge from new people.
02:44:30.000 It's nice to meet you guys.
02:44:31.000 I don't know much about you guys, but I know a lot about someone.
02:44:37.000 Someone?
02:44:40.000 I don't have any comments.
02:44:42.000 It's just that every time I come here, I get more knowledge.
02:44:46.000 Since the first time I got here, I learned a lot.
02:44:50.000 That's it.
02:44:51.000 Who did you learn from?
02:44:57.000 Okay, let's move on.
02:44:59.000 What about you?
02:45:00.000 Grow up.
02:45:01.000 Honestly.
02:45:03.000 I think I like that podcast, this podcast.
02:45:06.000 I enjoy it.
02:45:08.000 It's like I like to know the point of view of all of these people, these new people I'm meeting right now.
02:45:13.000 So, I don't know, maybe you come back?
02:45:17.000 Maybe, yeah.
02:45:18.000 I'm more like a listener.
02:45:23.000 What's that saying in Spanish?
02:45:30.000 Do you like living in a capitalistic society more or a socialist society like Venezuela?
02:45:36.000 Capitalism.
02:45:37.000 We all do, yep.
02:45:38.000 Good.
02:45:38.000 Of course.
02:45:39.000 What about you?
02:45:39.000 What are your final thoughts or disagreements?
02:45:41.000 Fuck you, nigga!
02:45:43.000 No, it's nothing like that.
02:45:44.000 Like, I agree and disagree.
02:45:46.000 I agree and disagree with a lot of stuff.
02:45:48.000 What do you disagree with?
02:45:50.000 Just certain perspectives, but like...
02:45:52.000 Like?
02:45:53.000 Okay, so, like, I can agree that it is a choice with your, like...
02:45:59.000 Health and what you eat and what you choose to work out, etc.
02:46:02.000 I do agree that you can choose to diet.
02:46:05.000 You can choose that stuff.
02:46:06.000 You know, I can agree with that.
02:46:08.000 But like, you know, obviously, like we don't get handed down money.
02:46:12.000 So sometimes that's why certain people choose the streets or harder routes.
02:46:17.000 So like, that's what I'm saying.
02:46:18.000 Like they choose something faster because they don't know how to get it because it's not getting passed down.
02:46:22.000 So I decided to sell drugs instead.
02:46:24.000 It's not a smart move, but sometimes they feel like that's their only option because the other options aren't coming fast enough and they're struggling to pay rent.
02:46:31.000 That's coping though.
02:46:33.000 It's not coping because they can have two whole jobs and it's still not enough to pay rent.
02:46:38.000 So they're gonna sell drugs instead?
02:46:39.000 How many times does a guy that goes to a nice high school have to choose whether he's gonna sell drugs or not?
02:46:44.000 You don't even make that choice.
02:46:45.000 Like, how can you even judge somebody that has to?
02:46:47.000 They do when they pay the re-up guy.
02:46:50.000 There's a difference between a wealthy white kid that buys weed to smoke versus a black kid in the fucking ghetto that can only make money selling weed.
02:46:56.000 There's two different experiences.
02:46:58.000 I'm just saying that's reality.
02:47:00.000 They can sow candy!
02:47:02.000 They can sell other things.
02:47:03.000 Yeah, they do sell candy.
02:47:04.000 And then something else I disagree on is like, I do agree that a woman should be able to be submissive and depend on her man, but however, she should have something for herself also.
02:47:15.000 So that if that man decides to leave, she's not left stranded.
02:47:18.000 She can depend on herself.
02:47:19.000 She can fall on herself without having to cry and fall back on her family if she even has any.
02:47:24.000 Alright.
02:47:24.000 Go queen.
02:47:26.000 Other than that, I mean, I liked it.
02:47:27.000 I would come back.
02:47:29.000 If we have you back.
02:47:30.000 Yeah.
02:47:33.000 What about you, Ms.
02:47:34.000 Navajo?
02:47:36.000 Not a hoe.
02:47:38.000 Never a hoe.
02:47:40.000 I think you only said like two sentences this whole podcast.
02:47:42.000 Yeah, I feel like I just, I didn't get a chance to talk much.
02:47:45.000 Come on, man.
02:47:46.000 We gave you opportunities.
02:47:47.000 You didn't say nothing.
02:47:48.000 No, it was like a lot of yelling, a lot of hostility, a lot of masculine energy here, and I just didn't want to like, I don't know.
02:47:56.000 I mean, it was like what you were saying.
02:47:59.000 Women need to be submissive anyway, so I was just playing my role like you guys like.
02:48:03.000 Alright, get your chance to talk.
02:48:04.000 Go ahead.
02:48:04.000 What do you got to say?
02:48:06.000 Five rating misogyny.
02:48:08.000 I mean, so the one thing that I can remember from the whole conversation was when you guys were talking about, like, having a separate home for a guy to live in or your husband, whatever.
02:48:22.000 I actually agree with that to some degree because...
02:48:26.000 I'm a very independent woman, so if you're an independent woman who has been independent your whole life, but I'm still submissive at the same time, so I think it would be healthy.
02:48:36.000 I wouldn't want my guy around me all the time.
02:48:40.000 You were saying, oh, the girl's going to...
02:48:42.000 Separation makes the heart grow fonder.
02:48:46.000 Okay.
02:48:47.000 But what if the girl's enjoying it, too?
02:48:50.000 Okay.
02:48:51.000 Yeah.
02:48:53.000 I mean, I feel like, okay, so, like, I like my space.
02:48:57.000 Like, I wouldn't, like, if I'm in a relationship with a guy, yeah, like, I don't want a guy, like, I'm saying, like, I don't want a guy, like, in my, like, in my shit.
02:49:07.000 Like, I want to have my time to go to the gym.
02:49:09.000 I want to have my, and I don't really care to do things together.
02:49:11.000 Like, I'm not an, like, I'm not an emotional person.
02:49:13.000 I don't need someone to be there.
02:49:15.000 Helping me.
02:49:16.000 Every second of the way, I'm very independent.
02:49:18.000 I have my own goals and structure to my life.
02:49:22.000 So if a guy is constantly there, it's not going to work.
02:49:28.000 And I've been in three long-term relationships, and that's what's caused the breakups.
02:49:34.000 It's living together.
02:49:36.000 The moment that we moved in together, I just couldn't do it.
02:49:40.000 So yeah, that was the only thing that I wanted to say.
02:49:44.000 Okay.
02:49:45.000 What about you?
02:49:46.000 Um, I honestly didn't think, like, I'd agree, like, so much, especially with this podcast, but, um, like, a lot of things that you guys talk about, it's, like, it's very, like, um...
02:49:56.000 Realistic?
02:49:57.000 Yeah, so, like, for example, when you guys talk about certain things, like, like, simps or, like, stuff like that, it makes sense, or, like, nice guys.
02:50:04.000 Yeah.
02:50:04.000 Because I feel like, as a man, you should provide and, like, be comfortable with your life and also have a woman by your side that supports everything that you do.
02:50:13.000 Mm-hmm.
02:50:14.000 And if you can't have that, then I feel like you're not a high-value man or you just don't feel like...
02:50:21.000 Like, give her her needs, you know what I mean?
02:50:24.000 And she doesn't give you yours, so I don't know.
02:50:25.000 But my point is that, like, this whole podcast just, like, opened my eyes to certain things and I think, like...
02:50:32.000 I would watch it more, because I didn't really watch it before, but now I for sure think if I could open up my brain that much.
02:50:39.000 I just realized, Destiny, you've kind of been hogging a lot of the air time for somebody who thinks that women's input are equally as important to men.
02:50:46.000 I have to balance out the fact that I do women equal in partnerships, but I also hate women at the same time.
02:50:50.000 Even when they're talking, you're on your phone, you're over here, you don't really care.
02:50:55.000 Are there other opinions really that valid?
02:50:58.000 I'm on a show, so of course I'm going to talk a lot.
02:51:00.000 He was on his phone not much.
02:51:02.000 When he wasn't talking, he's on his phone.
02:51:06.000 You've been on your phone a lot too.
02:51:08.000 I thought that their opinions mattered.
02:51:11.000 Sure, yeah.
02:51:12.000 So listen up.
02:51:14.000 Well, for me, I was actually excited to come on because of Destiny.
02:51:18.000 I think that it's really important to intentionally seek out opinions that are nuanced or different to yours.
02:51:25.000 Because one of two things is going to happen.
02:51:27.000 Either you're going to have more nuance or more knowledge in your conversation or more empathy for the situation.
02:51:33.000 Or on the other hand, Someone is just going to sound like a total idiot and it's going to strengthen your argument.
02:51:38.000 And for me, whenever I listen to Destiny, I at least, even if I totally disagree, it's at least a little something where I'm like, okay, I can kind of see your point.
02:51:45.000 And so for me, that's why I was really excited to come on tonight.
02:51:47.000 And I definitely got a lot of that.
02:51:49.000 No!
02:51:51.000 And I wanted to hear a sneak on Destiny debate as well.
02:51:54.000 And then you dumped your man.
02:51:59.000 Can we find out what happened now?
02:52:00.000 You said that you weren't going to open up immediately, but what happened?
02:52:02.000 After the cameras turned off.
02:52:04.000 He was being too much of a nice guy, that's why.
02:52:09.000 That's why she's laughing.
02:52:10.000 I always love it pretty good, obviously.
02:52:19.000 I can't say I learned anything.
02:52:21.000 Should I already agree with?
02:52:23.000 Xena, you were smiling the whole show.
02:52:25.000 I wonder why.
02:52:25.000 Smiling the whole night.
02:52:27.000 I wonder why, too.
02:52:29.000 But yeah, I just want to say Sneakle was 100% right and Destiny was wrong.
02:52:32.000 Oh, okay.
02:52:34.000 Destiny, have anything you want to say back to that?
02:52:36.000 Women's opinions really do matter.
02:52:39.000 Destiny, have anything you want to say back to that?
02:52:42.000 No, not all women's opinions matter.
02:52:44.000 Yeah.
02:52:49.000 It was fun.
02:52:51.000 It was cool.
02:52:57.000 I'm glad to have everybody's opinion and stuff.
02:53:00.000 I love to have debates.
02:53:02.000 Of course, there's a lot of Stuff that I was not agreeing on, but...
02:53:06.000 Such as?
02:53:07.000 I mean, a few, but the biggest one definitely was the whole polygamy stuff.
02:53:15.000 Like, a guy can fuck as much girl as he wants, and the girl needs to, like, not do anything, anything that is stupid.
02:53:23.000 The Society Respect pose?
02:53:25.000 Because...
02:53:26.000 It's stupid.
02:53:28.000 It's stupid?
02:53:28.000 It's stupid.
02:53:29.000 Oh, wow.
02:53:30.000 It's not stupid.
02:53:30.000 I like your accent.
02:53:31.000 Do you want to sleep with me this time?
02:53:33.000 Maybe.
02:53:41.000 Miss Petty, I have to ask you, does society respect hoes?
02:53:47.000 I don't think men respect hoes in general.
02:53:49.000 Okay, they don't.
02:53:50.000 Society doesn't.
02:53:51.000 But do people respect men that can get a lot of women?
02:53:54.000 No, but...
02:53:55.000 Yes or no?
02:53:56.000 Does society respect men that can get a lot of girls?
02:53:58.000 Society respect men that can get with a lot of girls?
02:54:01.000 Yeah, yeah, because you're the men, right?
02:54:02.000 Exactly.
02:54:03.000 So you're not the same.
02:54:04.000 So you having sex with a bunch of dudes is not the same as me fucking a bunch of girls.
02:54:07.000 Of course, but I'm just saying if we are in a relationship and we love each other and we own each other loyalty and respect and you go ahead and you fuck with another girl because you just wanted to, if I just want to fuck with a man, I will.
02:54:22.000 That makes you a hoe though.
02:54:23.000 Okay, fine, but what does that make you?
02:54:26.000 A hoe maker.
02:54:28.000 Huh?
02:54:29.000 You become a hoe.
02:54:30.000 If I go fuck another girl, I'm a hoe maker.
02:54:31.000 I made her a hoe.
02:54:33.000 But you become a ho if you fuck another guy.
02:54:35.000 She's a ho.
02:54:37.000 Ho!
02:54:38.000 There you go.
02:54:38.000 No, no, no, no.
02:54:39.000 I'm not agreeing with you.
02:54:41.000 I just...
02:54:41.000 It's not about being a ho.
02:54:43.000 I'm not...
02:54:44.000 I'm just talking about respect, you know?
02:54:46.000 Respect is really important in a relationship.
02:54:49.000 Oh, yes!
02:54:49.000 Peace!
02:54:49.000 Peace!
02:54:51.000 And if you feel, yeah, and if it's an open relationship, that's fine.
02:54:54.000 If you want to do you, do you, if everybody does what they want.
02:54:58.000 But if I don't want you to cheat, if I want you to have sex with another girl, I will tell you, okay, you can do it.
02:55:04.000 But if I don't want you to do it, and you will do it.
02:55:07.000 But men always want to have sex with other girls.
02:55:09.000 Not all the time.
02:55:10.000 Most of the time they do.
02:55:10.000 Just to be clear, society doesn't respect hoes, it also doesn't respect men that cheat.
02:55:15.000 Really?
02:55:15.000 Really.
02:55:16.000 If you're cheating on a wife, everybody looks down on you.
02:55:18.000 Except for maybe the Red Pill's face.
02:55:19.000 But most people look down on that too.
02:55:21.000 Well, here's the thing.
02:55:21.000 We tell guys to be honest with girls, but they're not going to be.
02:55:24.000 Sure, that's fine, but I'm saying earlier, you tried to ask that return a little bit of like, do you respect a man that can fuck more women?
02:55:29.000 The master keeper is my son.
02:55:30.000 Yeah, they do.
02:55:30.000 I didn't say cheating, though.
02:55:31.000 I just said...
02:55:31.000 No, no, I know, but I'm saying in general, very few people say you respect a man that cheats.
02:55:35.000 Yeah.
02:55:36.000 There's an interesting being able to fuck a lot of girls versus stepping under your wife.
02:55:38.000 Yeah, they will bash a woman for sure, but they will not respect a man either.
02:55:43.000 Why do you want to cheat?
02:55:44.000 I mean, that's okay if it's in your relationship, but don't say...
02:55:47.000 See, I wasn't talking about cheating, though.
02:55:48.000 See how Destiny just came in and changed the argument completely?
02:55:51.000 Well, because you brought that thing up in response to her saying, Because her original point was, I don't agree with the one-sided open relationships.
02:55:57.000 And then you kind of went, does society respect a hoe?
02:55:59.000 You're a question of nothing to do with her.
02:56:01.000 Because that makes her a hoe.
02:56:02.000 How is she a hoe?
02:56:03.000 But admit for the guy's a hoe if he cheats too.
02:56:04.000 No, he's not.
02:56:05.000 He's a hoe maker.
02:56:05.000 All right.
02:56:07.000 Okay.
02:56:08.000 All right.
02:56:08.000 I have one question.
02:56:10.000 What can I find y'all?
02:56:11.000 What can I find you, bro?
02:56:12.000 What's your number of telephone?
02:56:15.000 I will give it to you after.
02:56:17.000 It's a French number, though.
02:56:19.000 There's no problem.
02:56:20.000 Damn, Sniko, come on, man.
02:56:24.000 We're going to find you, bro.
02:56:27.000 YouTube.com slash Destiny.
02:56:29.000 Instagram.com slash Destiny.
02:56:30.000 Rumble.com slash Destiny.
02:56:32.000 We're going to find you, Sneeko, other than her pants later.
02:56:36.000 Elfresh.
02:56:36.000 Rumble.com slash Sneeko.
02:56:38.000 You already know what's up.
02:56:39.000 And I'll see you guys tomorrow, 8 p.m.
02:56:41.000 Eastern.
02:56:41.000 Streaming.
02:56:42.000 Awesome!
02:56:42.000 This was a great panel.
02:56:43.000 Great show.
02:56:44.000 Yeah, great show.
02:56:45.000 As men, our value increases over time.
02:56:48.000 We've put the work in, and the only thing that increases over time for modern day 304 is the amount of cats they live with.
02:56:53.000 Appreciate that, Albo Ace.
02:56:54.000 And then we got here, this is mainly for Sneeko and Myron, but this entire discussion is living with your woman and dealing with her in every aspect of life can be solved by following the life of the prophet.
02:57:02.000 Peace be upon him.
02:57:03.000 Appreciate that.
02:57:04.000 And then DZJJK goes, Girl next to Myron is the epitome of not trying to look bad on life.
02:57:09.000 Women have some of the weirdest fetishes, like admiring serial killers.
02:57:12.000 You would be surprised if the shit women fantasize.
02:57:14.000 Yeah, I do fantasize about weird shit.
02:57:15.000 That does not mean that I want to do them.
02:57:18.000 That's fantasizing.
02:57:19.000 I can fantasize about...
02:57:20.000 I mean, everybody on the table, if I ask you your darkest fantasy, it's fucked up.
02:57:25.000 But that does not mean that you...
02:57:26.000 If you fantasize about it, that means you want to do it.
02:57:29.000 Can I say something?
02:57:31.000 I read somewhere that more and more girls are into CNC, which is consensual, non-consensual, right?
02:57:38.000 Grape.
02:57:39.000 And so, yeah, grape, right?
02:57:41.000 I got you.
02:57:41.000 But does that mean that they want to go out the street and get grape?
02:57:45.000 If it's the right guy, maybe.
02:57:46.000 I don't know.
02:57:47.000 Oh, no.
02:57:48.000 It's just a fantasy.
02:57:50.000 Most of the fantasy, you just want to leave your...
02:57:51.000 You don't want to leave...
02:57:53.000 Some women pay for that.
02:57:53.000 There's a reason why girls like aggressive sex with a guy that they desire.
02:57:57.000 Yeah, aggressive sex with a guy that they desire.
02:57:59.000 That's the key point.
02:58:01.000 When she's fantasizing, she's not fantasizing some weird guy like...
02:58:06.000 She's fantasizing it's a fucking Chad Baker.
02:58:08.000 Yeah, because it's a fantasy.
02:58:09.000 You've already consented.
02:58:10.000 It's a fantasy.
02:58:10.000 Yeah, but again, that's what I'm trying to say.
02:58:12.000 Guys will talk about like, oh, crazy pussy is the best, crazy girl's the best, and you feel that way until you wake up with a girl with a knife through her fucking throat, right?
02:58:18.000 You fantasize about it, but there's an issue in fantasizing and actually doing it in real life.
02:58:22.000 Yeah, right?
02:58:22.000 No, you contradicted yourself.
02:58:24.000 I think we just had a prime example.
02:58:25.000 She's saying what she wants, right?
02:58:27.000 But she just gave him the number, and he's saying exactly everything she's saying she don't want.
02:58:30.000 Oh, shit.
02:58:31.000 So that's a contradiction right there.
02:58:33.000 Are you mad?
02:58:34.000 Oh, don't play with me, baby.
02:58:35.000 Don't fucking play with me.
02:58:36.000 Are you mad?
02:58:37.000 Don't play with me.
02:58:37.000 It's just a question.
02:58:38.000 I was making an example.
02:58:39.000 I don't give up.
02:58:41.000 The example is, baby, I'm not mad.
02:58:43.000 You're pretty.
02:58:44.000 Thank you.
02:58:44.000 You too.
02:58:45.000 Right.
02:58:46.000 But what I'm saying is, you said you like a nice guy.
02:58:49.000 Yeah.
02:58:49.000 Maybe he's really nice.
02:58:51.000 Maybe he's nice.
02:58:51.000 Maybe he's just putting your phones.
02:58:53.000 Oh, my God.
02:58:55.000 Don't be mad, girl.
02:58:57.000 Don't fight me though.
02:58:58.000 No, but I'm not, but you're becoming super aggressive.
02:59:01.000 Check your men.
02:59:02.000 Don't fucking check me.
02:59:03.000 Check your men.
02:59:04.000 So speaking of hypocrisy, you can see right here that the one she had in the ring does not work very clearly.
02:59:08.000 You can see the problems that result from this.
02:59:10.000 Stop.
02:59:11.000 Both of you.
02:59:12.000 Stop.
02:59:12.000 Okay.
02:59:16.000 What's going on, man?
02:59:18.000 Yo, Sneeko!
02:59:20.000 Don't you win, man, nigga!
02:59:24.000 Alright, man.
02:59:26.000 Oh, my God!
02:59:28.000 Sneeko.
02:59:28.000 I don't know how it happened here.
02:59:30.000 It's gonna have a great night.
02:59:31.000 Okay.
02:59:31.000 Alright, y'all.
02:59:32.000 We're gonna catch y'all.
02:59:33.000 Peace.
02:59:35.000 Peace.
02:59:40.000 I ran so far away I just ran, I ran all night and day