Fresh & Fit - Tate Attorney Joe McBride & Former Fed EXPOSE "Trafficking Victims" LIES Against The Tates

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00:01:16.000 What's up guys?

00:01:16.000 Welcome to Freshier Podcast.

00:01:17.000 We got a big one today.

00:01:18.000 We're here with Joe McBride, Andrew and Tristan's lawyer.

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00:02:10.000 Hey, what's up guys?

00:02:12.000 Welcome to the podcast, man.

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00:02:17.000 Yeah, big one.

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00:03:15.000 Without further ado though, guest of honor, welcome.

00:03:17.000 Welcome, Joe.

00:03:18.000 We know who you are.

00:03:20.000 If you don't mind, tell the audience who you are.

00:03:22.000 Well, it's a pleasure to be here, guys, and thank you very much.

00:03:25.000 My name is Joe McBride.

00:03:27.000 I'm an attorney from Brooklyn, New York.

00:03:28.000 I represent Andrew and Tristan Tate, amongst some other people.

00:03:33.000 And we're in this battle.

00:03:34.000 We're in this battle against cancellation.

00:03:36.000 We're in this battle against misinformation, true misinformation, and fighting on the forefront of what it means to be a man.

00:03:45.000 And can you be a man in this world and not be persecuted for it and not go to jail for it?

00:03:51.000 Freedom of speech is at issue in my practice, and really the future of what it means to be a strong man in this country and around the world.

00:03:59.000 And when you think about that, two people come to mind.

00:04:02.000 That's Andrew and Tristan Tate.

00:04:04.000 Well said.

00:04:05.000 Absolutely.

00:04:06.000 Can you tell the audience your training, your background, experience, education?

00:04:11.000 Sure.

00:04:11.000 So I went to Benjamin Cardozo School of Law in New York City.

00:04:16.000 I was there for a few years.

00:04:17.000 I was an intern at the Innocence Project while I was there.

00:04:20.000 I worked for Barry Sheck.

00:04:22.000 He was one of O.J. Simpson's lawyers on the Dream Team.

00:04:26.000 Ah, okay.

00:04:27.000 Innocence Project is known for, if you've ever heard of a man who's gone to jail, generally men.

00:04:32.000 Incorrectly.

00:04:32.000 Incorrectly, and then been exonerated later on through DNA evidence.

00:04:36.000 That's the Innocence Project.

00:04:38.000 After that, I was at the criminal defense clinic over there for a year with the Legal Aid Society, and then I went on to be a public defender.

00:04:44.000 Prior to that, I was at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in Hell's Kitchen in Manhattan.

00:04:49.000 I went to undergrad there and did my work there.

00:04:51.000 Nice.

00:04:52.000 So a lot of litigation experience.

00:04:54.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:04:55.000 Yeah, being a defense attorney.

00:04:56.000 So now, do you handle civil, criminal, everything?

00:05:01.000 Yeah, civil, criminal, First Amendment issues, people who are on the forefront of cancellation.

00:05:08.000 My background is in criminal, right?

00:05:11.000 And it just kind of...

00:05:21.000 Wow.

00:05:25.000 Wow.

00:05:31.000 Well, we are in either the greatest defense of free speech of all time or in the era where it's dying.

00:05:41.000 Fine gentlemen like you who are on this podcast on a regular basis speaking your mind, not caring what the establishment thinks.

00:05:50.000 People like Andrew and Tristan, politicians like Donald Trump, right?

00:05:54.000 We say divisive things, we speak our mind, and everybody's being persecuted for it.

00:06:01.000 And we have to defend it.

00:06:02.000 We have to defend it no matter what.

00:06:04.000 Without it, free democracy, free corporations, free trade, free anything cannot exist.

00:06:11.000 Right.

00:06:11.000 And that's why, you know, platforms like Rumble are so important, man.

00:06:15.000 Because, I mean, big tech definitely censors content, right?

00:06:18.000 We're on YouTube and Rumble, but guys, you know, you got to support Rumble.

00:06:21.000 Just so you know, we may end up there.

00:06:22.000 Yeah, yeah, man.

00:06:23.000 So...

00:06:26.000 So, obviously, the Tates have been, you know, the victims of what it looks like to me like a head job, right?

00:06:32.000 Maybe I might be a little bit biased from being their friends and knowing them personally and then seeing these, you know, charges come out of nowhere and I'm like, this doesn't make sense.

00:06:38.000 I've spent a good amount of time with these guys.

00:06:40.000 They're not human traffickers.

00:06:41.000 They're not grapists.

00:06:42.000 Like, this doesn't make sense.

00:06:43.000 Like, are they being targeted and why?

00:06:47.000 They are 100% being targeted.

00:06:50.000 There is no question about it.

00:06:53.000 There are a multitude of reasons for why they're being targeted.

00:06:57.000 None more easier to ascertain than what they're saying, what their message is.

00:07:02.000 When you have an entire corporate structure, an entire public partnership between the world governments and world banks and We're good to go.

00:07:31.000 That is a fact, right?

00:07:32.000 And then when you look at Andrew and Tristan and their ability to put out a message on Twitter, on Rumble, on TikTok, whatever it's going to be, and get 10 million men, 10 million young boys who may have not have changed their lives and get those guys to jump up and go to the gym and say,

00:07:52.000 hey, I can be somebody and maybe I am being programmed and maybe I should question things and maybe it is okay to be a man.

00:07:59.000 Well, wait a second.

00:08:00.000 It is okay to be a man.

00:08:01.000 Men are good.

00:08:02.000 Men are awesome.

00:08:03.000 Men are powerful.

00:08:04.000 There's a lot of good things in the world that happen because of men.

00:08:07.000 I'm going to stand up and be the best man that I can be.

00:08:10.000 That kind of power is crucial in the day that we live in.

00:08:13.000 And that kind of power is a threat to the establishment that Andrew refers to as the matrix.

00:08:19.000 And this is why they're being attacked.

00:08:21.000 They're being attacked not because of what they've done.

00:08:23.000 It's because of who they are and what they say.

00:08:25.000 Influence.

00:08:25.000 Yeah, and I think their influence is something that they really fear.

00:08:30.000 You know, if you can get a bunch of men to, you know, you can galvanate them to become better versions of themselves, they're not going to tolerate disrespect and BS and a bunch of people that don't necessarily appreciate them.

00:08:39.000 Even elections, you know, he says, hey man, I voted for this person, you can swear a whole election, so they're scared of that too.

00:08:45.000 Yeah.

00:08:45.000 Of course.

00:08:46.000 It's true influence, true power.

00:08:48.000 Yeah.

00:08:49.000 So, how'd you end up meeting them and getting on the team?

00:08:54.000 Or leading the team in this case.

00:08:56.000 You gotta go like into the backstory a little bit.

00:09:00.000 I became a lawyer for very personal reasons.

00:09:03.000 My brother was wrongfully convicted in 2005 of a crime that he absolutely did not commit.

00:09:09.000 I was like club promoting and in the mixed martial arts world at the time.

00:09:13.000 And when I watched my mom and dad, their hearts just break.

00:09:17.000 My brother go to jail, the effect it had on my family.

00:09:19.000 I said I had to do something.

00:09:20.000 So I got into the fight to try to free my brother from jail.

00:09:24.000 My brother did ten years, five of those years in the box.

00:09:28.000 What crime did they charge him with?

00:09:30.000 He was accused of hurting a child, a child that he absolutely did not hurt.

00:09:34.000 Oh, wow.

00:09:35.000 This is my adopted brother, born addicted to heroin and alcohol, really never dated much.

00:09:41.000 He had a girlfriend who had a kid.

00:09:43.000 She was abusing the kid. 1.00

00:09:44.000 She got caught.

00:09:46.000 The cops said, you know, testify against her in your walk. 0.97

00:09:49.000 My brother's a paranoid schizophrenic.

00:09:51.000 He did not have the right lawyer.

00:09:53.000 He did not have the right medical attention.

00:09:54.000 We're good to go.

00:09:58.000 We're good to go.

00:10:15.000 But I committed my life toward fighting for people who were over-persecuted or prosecuted by government, wrongfully accused, wrongfully convicted, so on and so forth.

00:10:25.000 After January 6th happened at the Capitol, I started representing those people.

00:10:30.000 I said, these are the people who are being targeted.

00:10:32.000 I'm going to represent these people because I do not like the way that the government is going after them for their political beliefs.

00:10:39.000 It's not so much about...

00:10:42.000 What they did, they're being persecuted for who they believe in and who they voted for, right?

00:10:46.000 Some of these people showed up, and even if you punched a cop, right?

00:10:51.000 Who goes to jail for 20 years for punching a cop?

00:10:54.000 If you've pulled the fence, a guy just got 18 years the other day for pulling a fence.

00:10:58.000 Enrique Tarrio didn't even go to the Capitol.

00:11:00.000 He got 22 years, a guy from Miami, right?

00:11:03.000 So...

00:11:03.000 Oh, wow.

00:11:04.000 22 years just happened this week.

00:11:06.000 I said, I have to stand up for these guys.

00:11:08.000 I have to do something.

00:11:09.000 And in the beginning, nobody would go on TV. Nobody would talk about this stuff.

00:11:15.000 So I said, well, I'm gonna go.

00:11:17.000 I'm gonna talk.

00:11:18.000 Put me in, coach.

00:11:18.000 Send me.

00:11:19.000 And I made a name for myself.

00:11:21.000 I got some good results.

00:11:23.000 I went from being a regional lawyer to sort of a national lawyer.

00:11:26.000 Some people in my world and Tate's world knew each other, and they said, hey, what about this guy?

00:11:32.000 Check him out.

00:11:33.000 They looked at me and said, it sounds good.

00:11:35.000 We met, we met up, and the rest is history.

00:11:39.000 You went to Romania, right?

00:11:40.000 Yeah, I went to Romania.

00:11:41.000 I went to Tucker Carlson.

00:11:43.000 I put that whole interview together.

00:11:44.000 Oh, nice.

00:11:45.000 What was your first impression of Andrew Tristan when you met them for the first time?

00:11:49.000 You know, they honestly just, they were exact.

00:11:52.000 So one thing about Andrew and Tristan, as you guys know, is they are who they are in person and online, and I recognized that immediately.

00:12:00.000 Real recognized is real.

00:12:02.000 So I could tell by the way I interacted with them, by the way I shook their hands, that they were the same people 24-7, 365, and I respect that a lot.

00:12:10.000 Yeah.

00:12:11.000 I also was happy to be there and happy to help them.

00:12:16.000 These are two guys who are good guys.

00:12:18.000 They're philanthropists.

00:12:19.000 They don't get enough credit for all the good work that they do in the world.

00:12:22.000 They're outspoken.

00:12:23.000 They have a lot of friends.

00:12:24.000 They have a lot of enemies.

00:12:26.000 But There was nobody sort of stepping into the gap saying, hey, I'm willing to take on this case, stand up in front of the world and say, you can't do this.

00:12:35.000 What's happening to them is wrong and to fight for them in a meaningful way.

00:12:38.000 So I was honored to be there.

00:12:40.000 I was happy to be there.

00:12:41.000 And it's not very often that a man has a chance to show up For two warriors, these are world champion kickboxers, warriors online, chess warriors, the whole nine.

00:12:50.000 These are brilliant, brilliant guys who are unable to defend themselves in the court of law.

00:12:56.000 They can defend themselves great in the court of public opinion, but they needed somebody in the court of law to jump in to help them, and I was happy and honored that I was able to do it.

00:13:05.000 Yeah, because it's crazy.

00:13:06.000 People that meet Andrew and Tristan, they know how they are as, you know, people.

00:13:11.000 But a clip people see out of context, you know, they make a lot of jokes, but they take it serious.

00:13:16.000 So it's kind of like, unless you meet them in person, you can't have the idea of them, but you met them in person, so you know.

00:13:20.000 Yeah, I know for sure.

00:13:22.000 For sure.

00:13:23.000 And, you know, just great.

00:13:24.000 Open that house to me.

00:13:25.000 Everybody that was there was treated the same.

00:13:29.000 And...

00:13:30.000 He's surrounded by his day ones.

00:13:32.000 They both are.

00:13:33.000 Family and friends that they've been in forever.

00:13:35.000 A very tight circle.

00:13:37.000 Smart thing to do.

00:13:38.000 One of the things that when you come up from nothing, you take your people with you and you're very weary of outsiders.

00:13:44.000 They run a tight ship and I appreciate that.

00:13:46.000 Especially nowadays, you have to be careful.

00:13:50.000 So, before we get into the general facts of the case and everything else like that, can you make...

00:13:59.000 Because people tend to think like, oh yeah, they're being...

00:14:03.000 Prosecuted here in Romania and but wait hold on how does he have a US lawyer wait I've seen this you know this other lawyer American lawyer that's in Romania like multiple yeah people are really confused as to what's going on what civil what's criminal what lawyers defending what what's going on can you kind of bring give some clarity to that yeah a hundred percent so because Andrew Tate is one of the famous most famous people in the world and Tristan Tate as well they have a Business interests and fans

00:14:33.000 and things happening all over the world.

00:14:36.000 As a consequence of that, they're being persecuted all over the world, right?

00:14:41.000 So they have a criminal case in Romania where they've famously been accused of human trafficking.

00:14:46.000 You have the public partnership between the UK governments and the BBC and the media out there that are going after them in the UK and in Western Europe.

00:14:59.000 We have the fact that they are American citizens.

00:15:03.000 They have interest in the United States of America.

00:15:05.000 We have an open civil case here where we're suing his accusers for defaming them and tortious interference of their business relationships.

00:15:16.000 So you have all these people, all these lawyers across the world, all these investigators across the world, helping us exonerate them in different forms and in different capacities.

00:15:27.000 I am one of the lawyers.

00:15:29.000 I am the public face.

00:15:31.000 I'm the point of intersection for a lot of the legal teams and strategies and PR people that talk to each other.

00:15:37.000 But it's a good thing when you have enough resources to be able to put together a world-class team to go to battle for you in what is no doubt a world-class fight.

00:15:49.000 Because I can imagine, you being the face of this case, you get a lot of pressure too.

00:15:52.000 Of course.

00:15:53.000 I mean...

00:15:54.000 Yeah, but I'm sort of, I'm used to it, you know, defending people, love them, I hate them, I want out them, but I have clients in Trump world who a lot of people, you know, can't stand for what some people love, some people hate.

00:16:10.000 January 6th, we laid litigation, I started getting some of these guys out of jail.

00:16:13.000 I actually had an attempt in my life.

00:16:15.000 Oh, wow.

00:16:15.000 In the April 5th of 2022, you name it, it's happened online, people have made threats, this, that.

00:16:24.000 You're used to it.

00:16:48.000 No, man, absolutely.

00:16:50.000 So, what is the main distinction between the U.S. case versus the Romanian case?

00:16:58.000 Sure.

00:16:58.000 So, the Romanian case is a Romanian criminal case.

00:17:03.000 They've been accused of a few different things in the Romanian court of law.

00:17:09.000 I think we're good to go.

00:17:26.000 One of the women and some of the people who were involved in the Romanian case.

00:17:31.000 So let me explain.

00:17:32.000 There's this woman named Emma, and she's from Florida. 0.99

00:17:36.000 And she went to Romania after basically soliciting Tristan to go there and to start life over for whatever reason. 0.71

00:17:46.000 She gets to Romania and she's there for a total of six days.

00:17:51.000 Six days.

00:17:52.000 And in that time, she figures out that she's not going to be the end all be all over there.

00:17:59.000 She starts trouble over there.

00:18:02.000 Jealous of the other women that are there, etc.

00:18:04.000 Insanely jealous.

00:18:05.000 And then accuses them of human trafficking.

00:18:10.000 And gets the embassy involved, and this big thing explodes.

00:18:16.000 And there's a question of, was she sent there?

00:18:19.000 Was she groomed and prepared?

00:18:22.000 Did she target Tristan to infiltrate that group over there in order to bring them down to cause them trouble?

00:18:28.000 Or is this just a woman who's got a bad history of doing things? 1.00

00:18:33.000 Bill, let's pull up the lawsuit real fast, just so we can show the audience.

00:18:36.000 Please.

00:18:37.000 And just does what she does, right?

00:18:41.000 So...

00:18:41.000 We can see here, so we got here in the circuit court of the 15 Judicial Circuit in and for Palm Beach County, Florida, Civil Division.

00:18:49.000 Tristan and Andrew are the plaintiffs.

00:18:51.000 And then you got here Emma Gabby, an individual.

00:18:53.000 Mana Tabara Gabby, William Gabby, Alione Untila.

00:18:58.000 Did I pronounce that correctly?

00:18:59.000 And Matthew Martelli.

00:18:59.000 Right.

00:19:01.000 Just so you guys know, Emma Gabby is the main chick that he's referring to right now.

00:19:05.000 And then Aliona is the... 0.74

00:19:07.000 I think she's from Aldova.

00:19:10.000 But she lives in England.

00:19:11.000 She's a... 0.94

00:19:12.000 I think she's a dancer. 1.00

00:19:14.000 An exotic dancer.

00:19:15.000 And she was the one that made the accusation against Andrew.

00:19:19.000 If I'm correct there?

00:19:21.000 She's one of them, yes.

00:19:22.000 Yeah, she's one of them.

00:19:23.000 And then I guess the other people are Gabby's family members judging from the last names.

00:19:27.000 Right.

00:19:27.000 Okay.

00:19:28.000 And we've seen, well, behind the scenes, of course, and on live, some of their chats between each other talking about this whole debacle.

00:19:36.000 Yeah.

00:19:36.000 Which is crazy because they knew what they were doing from the very beginning.

00:19:38.000 Exactly.

00:19:39.000 They certainly knew what they were doing.

00:19:42.000 So, what's relevant about the American case is this.

00:19:45.000 Is that Florida has very strong defamation laws.

00:19:49.000 And if you publish a defamatory statement to the public, where you know it's going to hurt somebody's interest, it's going to hurt their reputation, it's going to defame them, it's going to slander them, it's going to cause them all types of problems.

00:20:02.000 If you know it's false, and if you publish it, And it actually has an effect on somebody's life.

00:20:09.000 You have a case, right?

00:20:10.000 I'm summarizing and putting together a whole bunch of law in one little pot, just for a moment.

00:20:16.000 She lied in Romania.

00:20:20.000 She sent text messages to people who are in Florida, mother, friends, so on and so forth, saying that I'm being held against my will.

00:20:31.000 This is going on.

00:20:32.000 That is going on.

00:20:33.000 It was all lies.

00:20:34.000 Those people then took it and republished it to other people in their life, which ended up in having Andrew and Tristan arrested in Romania on these charges.

00:20:44.000 It is illegal to defame somebody, and there is no greater impact that you can have on somebody's life than the deprivation of their freedom.

00:20:55.000 This woman's false allegations against Andrew and Tristan In the United States, wound up having them incarcerated in Romania, which not only took away their freedom, it took away their ability to operate as businessmen,

00:21:11.000 it took away their ability to be fathers to their children, brothers and friends to the people who depend on them, so on and so forth.

00:21:18.000 That is a very serious thing. 0.98

00:21:20.000 She is the butt for causation. 1.00

00:21:22.000 Without her, none of this ever happens. 0.96

00:21:30.000 Pretty much get the other girl and rope her into this and say, hey, we're going to do this. 0.97

00:21:34.000 You need to help me.

00:21:35.000 You need to make accusations against Andrew.

00:21:38.000 She did.

00:21:39.000 She recruited one girl while she was there to sort of say that...

00:21:46.000 The situation wasn't up to par in Romania.

00:21:48.000 It was all lies.

00:21:49.000 The Romanian government interviewed a bunch of different people in the case, and two of the girls that they used as witnesses against Andrew and Tristan actually said, hey, Andrew and Tristan are great.

00:22:02.000 They have subsequently went on to make videos.

00:22:05.000 They're stand-up guys.

00:22:06.000 They would never rape.

00:22:07.000 We were free to go.

00:22:08.000 We were free to come as we please.

00:22:10.000 We love our lives over here.

00:22:10.000 They paid us well.

00:22:12.000 Why are you doing this to them?

00:22:14.000 Why are you labeling us as victims?

00:22:15.000 I know the two girls that made the videos. 1.00

00:22:18.000 That's right.

00:22:18.000 One of them even has a degree in psychology.

00:22:21.000 And the Romanian authorities at the time said, well, you've been brainwashed, sweetheart.

00:22:28.000 So you don't really know what you're saying.

00:22:29.000 So we're just going to take this paternalistic approach to you and just say, you know, we're going to speak for you for the time being.

00:22:34.000 And she's like, I have a psych degree.

00:22:35.000 I have not been brainwashed.

00:22:37.000 What is happening is wrong.

00:22:39.000 It is a lie.

00:22:40.000 These men are innocent.

00:22:41.000 You should take what I'm saying very seriously.

00:22:44.000 But they didn't do that.

00:22:46.000 Right?

00:22:46.000 And we have this big chain of events that has happened since that time.

00:22:51.000 But we dug down, before we sued in Florida, we dug down on this woman and in the people in her life.

00:22:59.000 She got a pass.

00:23:00.000 She got a pass?

00:23:01.000 A past.

00:23:02.000 How does she have a pass? 1.00

00:23:02.000 A past, yeah. 1.00

00:23:03.000 She's got a body count. 0.95

00:23:04.000 Yeah, we did the whole facts on her, man.

00:23:06.000 The whole facts.

00:23:07.000 Yeah, she's got a body count. 1.00

00:23:09.000 And you see a modus operandi.

00:23:11.000 You see a long history.

00:23:13.000 Of this person using sex as a means to lure men in, and then after she has sex with men, she revokes consent post-facto, and says, oh yeah, remember what we did last month?

00:23:26.000 Yeah, I was drunk. 0.97

00:23:27.000 You know, you did that to me, and you know, that wasn't right, and you kind of raped me, but you know... 0.96

00:23:35.000 If you buy me this or if you take me there, if you do this for me, I'll kind of make it go away. 0.98

00:23:39.000 It's blackmail, it's extortion.

00:23:41.000 The highest level.

00:23:42.000 She's been doing it for like 10 years. 1.00

00:23:44.000 Damn. 1.00

00:23:44.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:23:44.000 One guy is serving a sentence he should not be serving in jail. 1.00

00:23:48.000 Another guy arguably killed himself due to his interactions with her.

00:23:52.000 Wow.

00:23:53.000 Another guy sued her already. 0.71

00:23:55.000 His case is running concurrent to us in Palm Beach County.

00:23:58.000 Sued her for all the same things that Andrew and Tristan are suing for.

00:24:00.000 Oh, wow.

00:24:01.000 And other people have come out since that time saying...

00:24:04.000 Was that lawsuit up before you guys sued?

00:24:06.000 Or did he kind of file around the same time?

00:24:08.000 Got filed a few days before we filed.

00:24:12.000 That's despicable, bro.

00:24:14.000 Yeah, that's wild.

00:24:14.000 Who does that?

00:24:16.000 What the hell? 0.96

00:24:18.000 It's bad. 0.98

00:24:19.000 It's really bad.

00:24:21.000 Andrew and Tristan could not be more innocent.

00:24:25.000 You don't have to like everything that they say.

00:24:28.000 You can hate what they say.

00:24:31.000 But just because you hate what somebody says, that does not rise to the level of criminality.

00:24:37.000 And you shouldn't be deprived of your freedom or want to deprive somebody of their freedom simply because they have an opposing viewpoint on politics, religion, faith, gender, whatever it is.

00:24:48.000 Turn the other cheek.

00:24:49.000 Start a podcast, write a book, challenge them to a debate, don't throw them in jail.

00:24:55.000 Yeah.

00:24:55.000 I have a query because I think people don't care because it's not them, but what if it's your brother, your father, your uncle that helps take care of your family and someone accuses him falsely, which is a whole lie, and then he gets us away.

00:25:10.000 What are you going to do for your family?

00:25:11.000 Here's the scary part too.

00:25:12.000 We talked about this and I've said it before.

00:25:14.000 If this could happen to them, this could happen to anybody.

00:25:16.000 And luckily they have the resources and the ability to hire someone like Joe, right?

00:25:21.000 An expert in this situation is able to properly defend them.

00:25:23.000 But other people might not have the resources, right?

00:25:27.000 Imagine you'd have the money or the status or the ability to properly defend yourself.

00:25:30.000 You'd be literally within a woman's like this clenches and you'd be at her mercy. 0.98

00:25:35.000 That's right.

00:25:36.000 That's right.

00:25:36.000 And it's unfortunate because if Andrew and Tristan had different politics, if Andrew and Tristan had different beliefs, they would be celebrated.

00:25:48.000 We're talking about two mixed race, half white, half black gentlemen who grew up in a home where their mom and dad did not live together.

00:26:00.000 They grew up in the projects, in the ghetto, in Luton, in England.

00:26:04.000 They've clawed and scraped and fought for everything that they have accomplished.

00:26:09.000 In terms of cultural competency, people like to...

00:26:14.000 If you look at...

00:26:17.000 Let's take trap music or hip-hop music and you look at the lyrics, right?

00:26:21.000 And you say, okay, we accept those lyrics because that's representative of a certain community, a certain demographic.

00:26:27.000 Andrew and Tristan come from that community.

00:26:29.000 Andrew and Tristan come from that demographic.

00:26:31.000 But you're criminalizing the same thing that Andrew and Tristan are saying because of their politics and because of their message of male empowerment.

00:26:41.000 They should be celebrated.

00:26:42.000 You don't have to...

00:26:44.000 Have a degree in rocket science to see that these are two men who had nothing, who became chess champions, kickboxing champions, and now sort of champions of social media influencing.

00:26:58.000 That is a good thing that people should look to, and aspire to be, and aspire to beat, quite frankly.

00:27:03.000 But we have a system that's trying to suppress them because of their message.

00:27:07.000 Yeah, wow.

00:27:09.000 So we talked a little bit about the primary accusers, right?

00:27:12.000 We have Emma, Gabby, and then we have Alione, the other girl who pretty much was influenced heavily by Emma.

00:27:19.000 So Emma's the ringleader here for this.

00:27:22.000 Can we kind of go over, I guess, the backstory of how this all came to be?

00:27:28.000 I didn't even know that she was only there for six days. 0.77

00:27:30.000 Six days.

00:27:31.000 That's wild.

00:27:32.000 And the other girl was there for longer.

00:27:35.000 The Alione girl.

00:27:36.000 And we know that she was jogging every day and walking the dogs and going grocery shopping and everything else like that.

00:27:42.000 So she didn't have an issue before until this chick showed up. 1.00

00:27:45.000 Right.

00:27:46.000 But yeah, I guess if we can go over...

00:27:48.000 You know, summarize it to the best that you want to.

00:27:51.000 I can definitely walk you guys through and your listeners.

00:27:54.000 But before I do that, I just want to make a brief sort of statement about the Romanian government and the system over there.

00:28:01.000 Please, yeah.

00:28:01.000 Because Andrew and Tristan's fate is in their hands.

00:28:07.000 I actually think right now that in terms of justice, the way that the Romanian justice system is trending is a bit more honorable than what's happening in, let's say, the D.C. courts in the United States.

00:28:19.000 It's true.

00:28:20.000 The judges over there don't seem to be very influenced by outside policies.

00:28:26.000 They've recently looked at the file, the case file against Andrew and Tristan, and they let them out after months of incarceration.

00:28:34.000 It's not Yeah.

00:28:45.000 Yeah.

00:28:46.000 Yeah.

00:28:54.000 Which is demonstrated by their release.

00:28:56.000 There's a lot of problems with this.

00:28:58.000 And unless there's more, we're not going to hold them in.

00:29:01.000 You don't see that in human trafficking cases ever.

00:29:04.000 That is an indication of innocence.

00:29:06.000 That is an indication of problems with the Romanian case.

00:29:10.000 So you have to ask yourself, well, why haven't they thrown out the case in Romania altogether if it's weak?

00:29:16.000 And it is weak.

00:29:17.000 We can discuss it with great particularity.

00:29:20.000 The reason why that hasn't happened is because there is this believe all women captain in soy boy army prosecutor who has a personal vendetta for one reason or another against Andrew and against Tristan. 0.96

00:29:36.000 And he's a fairly influential prosecutor.

00:29:39.000 He's got a pretty good career of putting people away before this.

00:29:43.000 And he has targeted Andrew and Tristan and he won't let up.

00:29:49.000 And what prosecutors do often, even in the Innocence Project related cases, a guy will be in jail for 20 or 30 years for a rape and a murder he did not commit.

00:29:59.000 He'll be exonerated from DNA evidence.

00:30:02.000 He will subsequently sue and get tens of millions of dollars for the decades of life that he lost.

00:30:07.000 The prosecuting office will never even issue an apology.

00:30:10.000 Of course not, yeah.

00:30:11.000 They don't care.

00:30:13.000 Wow.

00:30:34.000 It is my hope that the Romanian justice system and the court sees this for what it is, looks at the file based on its merits and facts, and does not listen to this guy, because this guy shouldn't be listened to.

00:30:46.000 This guy's not a good person.

00:30:47.000 He's targeting them, and people need to know about it.

00:30:52.000 Let me ask you this, because we brought this up on the show multiple times before, defending Ed and Tristan, and we were there in Romania for a couple days.

00:30:58.000 And there was evidence, and you could see even in the rooms, there's camera footage everywhere.

00:31:03.000 There's cameras everywhere.

00:31:04.000 So if they were doing anything illegal, it'd be on camera.

00:31:07.000 Why don't they just show the footage in court?

00:31:09.000 There is no footage of anything illegal.

00:31:11.000 What you have that's available in footage is these women being free to go. 1.00

00:31:17.000 And we showed it.

00:31:17.000 Yes.

00:31:18.000 We showed it on our podcast.

00:31:20.000 We showed it on the CCTV. Of them walking out with their bags.

00:31:23.000 Eating, shopping, having fun, laughing.

00:31:25.000 Coming back and forth.

00:31:26.000 Dancing at a party.

00:31:27.000 If you're being held captive, then you can leave just like that?

00:31:31.000 And then come back?

00:31:32.000 Why come back? 0.95

00:31:33.000 It is an absolute, disgusting, defamatory lie that has caused an untold amount of damage to them.

00:31:41.000 And we're not going to stop until we've cleared their names.

00:31:47.000 Cleared their names in Romania and asserted their interests and their constitutional rights in the United States.

00:31:55.000 Gotcha.

00:31:55.000 So I think that's an important distinction for the people to know that this is not a U.S. court of law where the criminal case is being filed.

00:32:04.000 It's a foreign court.

00:32:07.000 I don't know if they have the presumption of innocence before being proven guilty in Romania.

00:32:13.000 Is that the standard of proof?

00:32:14.000 Is it beyond a reasonable doubt or is it completely different?

00:32:16.000 It's a little bit different.

00:32:18.000 I'm no expert in Romanian law.

00:32:20.000 I consult on the case out there, and we do a great job, but I leave that up to Aline and the team out there.

00:32:26.000 They're fantastic at what they're doing.

00:32:29.000 There are some similarities.

00:32:30.000 There are some differences.

00:32:31.000 One of the differences is the fact that they'll go before a panel of judges, and it won't be a jury.

00:32:37.000 Oh, there is no jury trials.

00:32:39.000 Yeah, it's not going to be a jury like you would have over here.

00:32:42.000 Okay.

00:32:42.000 Another difference is perjury is kind of treated differently over there.

00:32:47.000 It's not as serious as it is here.

00:32:49.000 Oh, wow.

00:32:50.000 Whereas, one of the good distinctions about Romania is what is treated far more serious than in the United States is if you falsely accuse him in court, and we can prove that you falsely accused him in court, 1.00

00:33:05.000 then it's your ass. 0.99

00:33:06.000 Okay. 1.00

00:33:07.000 Then you're in trouble.

00:33:08.000 It's like perjury plus one in the United States.

00:33:11.000 Okay.

00:33:11.000 So let's talk about that for a minute.

00:33:13.000 Sure.

00:33:15.000 Emma Gabby goes into Romanian court.

00:33:18.000 She files a false complaint and testifies falsely.

00:33:22.000 She falsely accuses Andrew and Tristan in court. 0.61

00:33:26.000 Because Romanian law is so strong on somebody's accusations, cases formed against them and they eventually wind up in jail.

00:33:34.000 Okay.

00:33:36.000 There are text messages, communications, and video evidence that completely refutes her claims.

00:33:43.000 We just spoke about some of the CCTV footage.

00:33:45.000 When you look at the text messages, you see her, Emma, and Alyona saying, hey, we're going to get Oscars for this.

00:33:54.000 They're going to give us a golden trophy.

00:33:56.000 Do you want us to pull it up on the complaint?

00:33:57.000 Yeah, we can.

00:33:59.000 Let me see.

00:33:59.000 We can pull it up on the complaint.

00:34:01.000 Yeah, I remember seeing those texts on WhatsApp basically go back and forth with her, her family, and then the girls.

00:34:07.000 And you could see clearly that they were acting to get a response and put Andrew Tristan away.

00:34:15.000 Yeah.

00:34:16.000 And you said that she, Emma Gammy, testified in court.

00:34:20.000 Do you mean like when she gave her police statement or her statement to Dicot or the police or law enforcement statement?

00:34:25.000 She gave that and that's considered like a sworn statement because they haven't been in Romania since, right?

00:34:29.000 They've been gone.

00:34:30.000 I know they went to the French Riviera and probably were having fun.

00:34:33.000 Right, right.

00:34:34.000 So she gave a written statement and she spoke to the judges in the court.

00:34:40.000 Okay, so that's how it goes there.

00:34:43.000 Since we're talking about Dicot real quick, it's also worthy to note that Dicot is filled with good people.

00:34:48.000 They're getting a bad reputation in the press.

00:34:51.000 But I actually think that Dicot is more honorable than the FBI. Far more honorable.

00:34:56.000 There are good people over there who care about the truth and care about justice.

00:35:00.000 They took her allegations very seriously because they're just not accustomed to women coming in their court lying about human trafficking.

00:35:09.000 So they took it seriously.

00:35:12.000 But her statements are controverted.

00:35:16.000 They're completely controverted.

00:35:17.000 They're disqualified.

00:35:19.000 They can be impeached in a court of law in a million different ways because she literally says that we're lying.

00:35:27.000 We're gonna get awards.

00:35:29.000 We're gonna go put on tears right now.

00:35:30.000 I can't wait to go to London.

00:35:32.000 I can't wait to do this.

00:35:33.000 I can't wait to do that.

00:35:34.000 They lie across different mediums, WhatsApp, text messages, conversations, videos, and there's no truth to what they're saying.

00:35:44.000 So, what do we do with that information?

00:35:47.000 We're trying to get the Romanian court to take notice of the fact that Emma's actually the wrongdoer and the Romanian system is also a victim of her scheme. 0.83

00:35:58.000 Now, a lot of this sounds like, well, you know, okay, she lied in text messages, maybe it's not that serious, but when you look back at her history, She has a history in the United States, in particular in Florida, of falsely accusing men who she has had sex with.

00:36:17.000 After she can't blackmail them, after she can't say, I'm going to report you, if they don't give in to her demands, she then actually reports them.

00:36:26.000 There have been many men who have...

00:36:29.000 There's one man who's gone to jail because of it.

00:36:31.000 There's another man who had his life ruined because of it.

00:36:37.000 Yeah.

00:37:03.000 And it was going to be just as inconsequential, right?

00:37:06.000 Guy would go to jail for the weekend, or maybe this would happen or that would happen, that would be the end of it.

00:37:10.000 But the whole thing blew up because, you know, she went after two men who were not your average Joes. 0.94

00:37:16.000 Yeah.

00:37:17.000 And I think it's very important for the audience to know that what this girl does, guys, is she gets on dating sites, circus sites especially, where she targets rich, affluent guys.

00:37:29.000 And she hooks up with them and then she'll disclose them after, oh, I was young, I was 17.

00:37:33.000 Or she'll say, hey, if you don't give me this or that, I'm going to go ahead and go to the police and allege a crime against you of grape or whatever it may be, or sexual assault.

00:37:41.000 And, you know, these guys look at it like, okay, I know I didn't do it.

00:37:46.000 But, do I want the headache of dealing with this and potentially having my reputation ruined?

00:37:51.000 Because we all know, on this side of the internet especially, if you're accused of a crime like this, whether you're innocent or guilty, your reputation is going to take a significant hit.

00:37:59.000 You know, no one cares that you were exonerated and that she was lying.

00:38:02.000 They care that you were accused in the first place and you're always going to carry that title.

00:38:05.000 So what do the guys do?

00:38:07.000 Well, I have the money to pay her off.

00:38:08.000 Leave me alone.

00:38:09.000 And they pay her off.

00:38:10.000 And she's been able to do this successfully for a very long time, especially targeting rich guys.

00:38:16.000 And she used this through sugar sites, Hinge, Bumble, all these dating sites that she's used it with.

00:38:21.000 And didn't she have a boyfriend at the time?

00:38:25.000 Oh, yeah.

00:38:26.000 At the time when she was in Romania, I think she did, actually.

00:38:28.000 That's crazy, bro.

00:38:29.000 Well, if we want to pull up page 39 of the complaint.

00:38:33.000 All right.

00:38:36.000 And while Bills pulls that up, can you give the guys real quick, because we've been jumping around a bit as far as her background and everything else like that.

00:38:44.000 Can we cover the six days or what led up to the six days of what happened, just the general facts?

00:38:50.000 Sure.

00:38:51.000 Just so the guys know what happened?

00:38:53.000 So...

00:38:55.000 Emma...

00:38:56.000 You can hide it for now, Bill.

00:38:57.000 We got it ready, though.

00:38:58.000 So after...

00:38:59.000 Go ahead, you can give the summary, and then we'll pull it up.

00:39:00.000 Sure.

00:39:00.000 Emma meets Tristan on a dating site.

00:39:04.000 Right?

00:39:04.000 Okay.

00:39:05.000 So, you know, Tristan's like any other dude.

00:39:07.000 He's in Miami.

00:39:09.000 He's scrolling away, and she looks good.

00:39:12.000 I like you.

00:39:13.000 You like me.

00:39:14.000 He's a good-looking guy.

00:39:15.000 She's like, I like him.

00:39:16.000 They meet up.

00:39:17.000 She comes to a war room event in Miami.

00:39:21.000 Oh, wow.

00:39:22.000 That must have been when they were here with us on the boat.

00:39:28.000 December of 22?

00:39:31.000 21.

00:39:32.000 Yeah.

00:39:32.000 We could have the years mixed up here.

00:39:34.000 December 21.

00:39:34.000 Yeah.

00:39:35.000 That was when we were here.

00:39:36.000 Yeah.

00:39:37.000 I think it was when we did our Avengers pod.

00:39:39.000 Around that time.

00:39:40.000 Yup.

00:39:41.000 I didn't know that.

00:39:42.000 He met her in Miami physically here.

00:39:44.000 Physically in Miami.

00:39:46.000 Oh, okay.

00:39:47.000 Yeah, she preys on guys in Miami. 1.00

00:39:49.000 She's cold-blooded, bro. 0.93

00:39:50.000 Cold-blooded. 1.00

00:39:51.000 Damn. 1.00

00:39:52.000 Okay, so she met him here. 0.99

00:39:55.000 I remember that when they were here.

00:39:57.000 So, okay, and then, sorry.

00:39:58.000 No, it's okay.

00:39:59.000 Look, it's...

00:40:00.000 That's crazy.

00:40:01.000 It's like, it could have been you.

00:40:03.000 Yeah, they knew each other.

00:40:04.000 Dude, they'd known each other for that.

00:40:05.000 I didn't know they knew each other that long.

00:40:08.000 Wow.

00:40:09.000 All right.

00:40:09.000 So, okay, so they meet in about the end of 2021.

00:40:12.000 Right.

00:40:12.000 Miami.

00:40:13.000 You know, they talk for a bit online.

00:40:15.000 She represents herself as an affluent, young, aspiring artist, you know?

00:40:21.000 Of course, typical Miami girl. 0.99

00:40:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:40:23.000 I'm a rapper.

00:40:24.000 I'm a TikToker.

00:40:25.000 I'm an influencer.

00:40:26.000 Musician, yeah.

00:40:27.000 All right, bro.

00:40:27.000 So she can sing.

00:40:29.000 And she can play instruments, right?

00:40:31.000 So at some point, the War Room event is wrapping up.

00:40:34.000 There's a bar, there's a piano, and she starts playing on the piano and singing.

00:40:39.000 Everybody's like, oh, wow, who's this girl?

00:40:41.000 She presents well.

00:40:41.000 Very interesting.

00:40:43.000 She meets Tristan.

00:40:45.000 One thing leads to another.

00:40:47.000 They hook up, they have fun, and off he goes.

00:40:51.000 You know, back to his life, and he starts to travel again.

00:40:53.000 They talk periodically over the course of that time.

00:40:57.000 She is interested in leaving to Romania.

00:41:01.000 Because she knows that he's there.

00:41:04.000 He's like, look.

00:41:05.000 And you can see this in the text messages.

00:41:07.000 And Romania's not close, guys.

00:41:09.000 You're going out of your way to go out there.

00:41:10.000 So this woman goes out of her way to go see Tristan. 1.00

00:41:13.000 Yeah.

00:41:13.000 And Tristan even says, look, you've got a good life.

00:41:16.000 Why do you want to leave?

00:41:18.000 Oh, the politics here are too much.

00:41:20.000 America's too aggravating.

00:41:22.000 There's a real opportunity for me in Romania.

00:41:24.000 I can go do this.

00:41:25.000 I can do that.

00:41:26.000 He says, okay, you want to come?

00:41:27.000 Come.

00:41:28.000 So she's like, okay, can I have your credit card so I can...

00:41:34.000 Book a flight.

00:41:35.000 She grabs his card, books herself a business class flight out to Romania.

00:41:41.000 And she's there for a few days.

00:41:45.000 And the first couple days, everything is fine.

00:41:48.000 And she realizes that she's not the only beautiful girl in town.

00:41:53.000 There's many.

00:41:54.000 Right, there's many.

00:41:55.000 And all of a sudden, she has an axe to grind with him.

00:41:58.000 She tries to exert influence over him like she would do other guys, but he's not easily intimidated.

00:42:05.000 He just says, hey, listen, you know, you're here.

00:42:07.000 Have a good time.

00:42:08.000 Everything is all right.

00:42:10.000 She tries to get involved in Andrew's personal business.

00:42:13.000 He's, please don't get involved in my brother's business.

00:42:15.000 That's not your lane.

00:42:16.000 Stay in your lane.

00:42:17.000 You came here to do something good.

00:42:19.000 Do it.

00:42:20.000 Two days later, she's accusing him of human trafficking.

00:42:24.000 Wow.

00:42:25.000 That is the full scope of what happened.

00:42:29.000 Add in a party that she danced in with her friends.

00:42:32.000 I remember that.

00:42:32.000 A few pizzas, some shopping.

00:42:34.000 That's her entire trip. 0.89

00:42:35.000 Which Andrew and Tristan weren't even there when they filmed those TikToks and they said they were being held.

00:42:38.000 And I think they went to the police like the next day after that party and made their accusations on or about April 22nd, if I'm not mistaken?

00:42:45.000 2022?

00:42:46.000 Yeah, it's first week of April.

00:42:49.000 She gets there around the 5th.

00:42:50.000 She's gone by like the 11th, I believe.

00:42:52.000 11th or 12th.

00:42:52.000 Okay.

00:42:53.000 At some point, she realizes what she did.

00:42:56.000 She goes...

00:42:57.000 So she calls the U.S. Embassy.

00:42:59.000 So she's there at the house, and she calls the U.S. Embassy...

00:43:02.000 Or did she call her family first?

00:43:03.000 Well, she called her family.

00:43:05.000 Okay. 1.00

00:43:05.000 And her family should objectively know that she's troubled and has a long and storied history of pulling crap, of lying. 1.00

00:43:12.000 She's run away from them, too, plenty of times, right? 0.99

00:43:14.000 Yes.

00:43:15.000 And falsely, there was a...

00:43:17.000 If you just Google Emma Gabby, go to Facebook and put her name on her.

00:43:21.000 She's been exposed.

00:43:22.000 Google her.

00:43:23.000 On Twitter too.

00:43:23.000 Yeah, she'd been exposed.

00:43:24.000 But her first lie was like, there was a news report about her in like 2016 or 15.

00:43:31.000 It was like, oh, this girl was kidnapped.

00:43:32.000 And she like ran to Orlando or something.

00:43:35.000 And then there was a subsequent report was like, oh, it was basically just a hoax.

00:43:39.000 Like she was fine.

00:43:40.000 It's still there.

00:43:41.000 You can pull it up.

00:43:42.000 Like she's been lying for a long time.

00:43:44.000 And so we mentioned her boyfriend in Florida.

00:43:49.000 So she reaches out to him.

00:43:50.000 So she calls her family and her boyfriend.

00:43:53.000 Right.

00:43:54.000 So he comes in like real hot.

00:43:58.000 Riding on a horse.

00:44:00.000 Captain Sabo.

00:44:02.000 He comes in like, you know, you're being human trafficked.

00:44:07.000 This is what's going on.

00:44:08.000 And she's like dancing with him.

00:44:10.000 You know, like, oh yeah, it is happening.

00:44:12.000 Like, it's like a little bit adventurous.

00:44:14.000 Like, it's a little bit of guilt.

00:44:15.000 Maybe she wants to get money from him.

00:44:16.000 Maybe whatever it is.

00:44:17.000 But he's like, ah, you need to go to the embassy.

00:44:20.000 We need to get the embassy involved.

00:44:22.000 And she realizes that if the embassy gets involved, she may have to go back home.

00:44:27.000 Right?

00:44:28.000 And she doesn't want to go back home.

00:44:30.000 She wants to hang out.

00:44:32.000 And then she wants to go to London.

00:44:33.000 This is not somebody who's being human trafficked.

00:44:36.000 You're being human trafficked.

00:44:37.000 You want to get the hell out of there yesterday, right?

00:44:39.000 So she literally tells him, please don't do this.

00:44:42.000 I take it all back.

00:44:44.000 Don't get the embassy involved.

00:44:46.000 Don't do that.

00:44:46.000 Don't do this.

00:44:47.000 And if you look at page 39 on the complaint.

00:44:50.000 Let's pull it up real fast.

00:44:51.000 It's paragraph 97.

00:44:54.000 Yep.

00:44:54.000 Right here.

00:44:55.000 I see it in the bold.

00:44:56.000 Yeah.

00:44:57.000 Okay.

00:44:58.000 Here, I can grab my glasses and read it.

00:45:00.000 Finally, as E. Gabby becomes fully aware of the ramifications of her actions, she wants Martelli to retract the U.S. Embassy call and then proceeds to accuse Martelli of orchestrating the scheme. 0.97

00:45:10.000 And here's the text right here.

00:45:10.000 Wow.

00:45:11.000 Martelli, she's a human trafficking victim. 1.00

00:45:12.000 Martelli, she'll be entitled to protection.

00:45:14.000 Gabby goes, but she needs to go to London to her family.

00:45:17.000 We bought the tickets.

00:45:19.000 I wish I could take it back.

00:45:20.000 Please, Matt, please do anything.

00:45:22.000 I'll do anything to take it back.

00:45:24.000 Martelli goes, yes.

00:45:25.000 They'll evaluate her.

00:45:26.000 E. Gabby goes...

00:45:27.000 I'm so sad you're doing this.

00:45:29.000 And she's referring guys to Aliona, the other girl who was with Andrew at the time, the Moldovan dancer that lives in the UK. Right.

00:45:39.000 Right.

00:45:39.000 Wow.

00:45:39.000 And if you scroll up...

00:45:41.000 Straight from her phone, guys.

00:45:42.000 And this is probably done via...

00:45:43.000 I'm assuming through WhatsApp, right?

00:45:46.000 These messages?

00:45:47.000 WhatsApp messages.

00:45:48.000 And at the top of that page, you see some other messages.

00:45:52.000 And he's like, yeah, I called.

00:45:54.000 And she's like, goodbye, Matt.

00:45:55.000 I just wanted to go to London.

00:45:57.000 Like, it's only me and the other girl who wanted to leave.

00:46:01.000 And she's clearly not in a state of duress.

00:46:05.000 She's clearly not being human trafficked.

00:46:07.000 Yeah.

00:46:08.000 So, she overcommits.

00:46:10.000 She realizes the consequences of her actions.

00:46:14.000 And instead of just backing people up and saying, hey, look, this has gone too far.

00:46:19.000 This is not what it seems.

00:46:21.000 Once the authorities get involved, she commits.

00:46:23.000 She doubles and she triples down. 1.00

00:46:25.000 So, it's consciousness of guilt.

00:46:27.000 This is her Straight up admitting this is not what I said it was I should probably just this kills it in the water right here right here And these are her messages from her phone to her boyfriend because this is what probably went down and please correct me because you actually had access to the messages and you wrote this complaint and She tells her boyfriend,

00:46:44.000 I'm in Romania, I'm being held against my will, to absolve herself of responsibility of cheating on her boyfriend.

00:46:50.000 Right?

00:46:50.000 Boom.

00:46:51.000 And then he's like, because if she had told him straight up, oh yeah, I bought business class tickets and I came out here to see Tristan and fuck him, that wouldn't sound so good, would it? 0.98

00:46:59.000 So instead she's like, I'm being held here against my will, so that she gets him on her side. 0.96

00:47:03.000 He reacts, right?

00:47:05.000 Oh my God, my girl's in danger.

00:47:06.000 She's being held.

00:47:07.000 We need to call the embassy, blah, blah, blah.

00:47:08.000 And then once she realizes that there's no turning back once you involve the U.S. Embassy and the government and the police are going to come, etc.

00:47:14.000 She's like, no, no, no, please don't do that.

00:47:16.000 And then once the police actually do get involved, she switches her story back up again.

00:47:19.000 Is that what it was?

00:47:21.000 She basically comes in on the frame of being held against to absolve herself of being a cheater?

00:47:25.000 I'm sorry, bro.

00:47:26.000 If my girl's going to Romania, of all places, randomly, what did she tell me to go there?

00:47:31.000 I want to know what she's saying because, bro, that's thousands of miles away.

00:47:34.000 What the hell?

00:47:35.000 What did she say in the beginning, I guess? 0.75

00:47:38.000 I mean, I don't know what she said, what her excuse was in terms of why she went there.

00:47:45.000 We didn't get those messages yet.

00:47:48.000 But if you go up to page 36, just scroll up a few pages, paragraph 91, she's actively trying to talk him out of it again.

00:47:58.000 Pull that up, Bills, please.

00:48:01.000 Yo, this is wild, bro.

00:48:02.000 Paragraph 91, right?

00:48:03.000 Yeah, if you see Martelli, it says, say I'm an American and I'm in danger.

00:48:07.000 Martelli, apparently in love or infatuated by E-Gabby, then starts contacting government friends that eventually puts the United States Embassy in Bucharest on alert of Emma, Gabby's allegations that Gabby and Eliana Untilla We're being human trafficked by the Tate Brothers.

00:48:23.000 Martelli does this despite the fact Gabby tries to talk Martelli out of calling the U.S. Embassy as demonstrated in the below.

00:48:29.000 And then, bam, there's the messages right there.

00:48:31.000 And if you look, underlined, don't panic any calls, please.

00:48:36.000 I just want to go to London.

00:48:38.000 LOL. Bro, what the?

00:48:40.000 Yeah, bro.

00:48:40.000 I want to go to London, lol.

00:48:42.000 Bro, this is scary stuff, man.

00:48:44.000 She ruined two guys' lives, or tried to ruin it. 1.00

00:48:48.000 Because, number one, she didn't want to admit to her boyfriend that she was cheating on him.

00:48:51.000 Yeah.

00:48:51.000 And then, number two, she wanted to go to London.

00:48:53.000 She's a serial cheater. 1.00

00:48:56.000 For sure. 0.86

00:48:56.000 Yeah. 0.86

00:48:57.000 She's a serial extortionist. 1.00

00:48:59.000 She's a serial liar. 1.00

00:49:01.000 If you go up to, let's see. 0.98

00:49:04.000 And I want the audience to also understand, this kills it dead in the water, because you guys can remember, all of these charges, Pretty much stem from this.

00:49:12.000 Yes.

00:49:13.000 Which you guys are seeing right here.

00:49:14.000 These accusations that she's making are what generated all of this in the first place.

00:49:18.000 It's why the search was done.

00:49:19.000 It's why the house was raided.

00:49:21.000 It's why they were arrested later on in the year.

00:49:23.000 It comes from this and you can see actively she's trying to withdraw the statement like no no don't tell the US Embassy.

00:49:29.000 And they also use videos out of context to add to this agenda as well.

00:49:33.000 They sure do and Wow.

00:49:37.000 The exhibits in the Florida case right now are under seal.

00:49:42.000 Their lawyer is trying to prevent the public from seeing what's actually in these exhibits.

00:49:52.000 Most of the exhibits...

00:49:53.000 Oh, her lawyer.

00:49:54.000 Yeah, her American lawyer.

00:49:56.000 Okay, her American lawyer that's defending her in the defamation case doesn't want your guys' evidence out there. 0.50

00:50:02.000 For obvious reasons.

00:50:03.000 It's horrible.

00:50:04.000 Yeah.

00:50:05.000 I mean, you see...

00:50:06.000 Can't you fight that?

00:50:07.000 Oh, we're fighting it, right?

00:50:09.000 We're fighting it, and we're going to win. 0.94

00:50:10.000 We have evidence of her as a sex worker. 0.97

00:50:12.000 We have evidence of her targeting guys.

00:50:14.000 I mean, you name it, it is there.

00:50:17.000 It is a worst-case scenario in terms of who she is morally and who she is as a criminal, and this is why they're trying to bury it.

00:50:24.000 But if you just go up to page 34, right?

00:50:28.000 And you see where it says paragraph 86.

00:50:32.000 You just scroll right above that real quick.

00:50:34.000 And it says, I'm talking to my friend about it now.

00:50:34.000 Yep.

00:50:37.000 She's saying you should try to get money from Andrew.

00:50:39.000 They're talking about how to get money from Andrew before they bounce to London.

00:50:44.000 And then if you just scroll down below that, paragraph 86, it says, cover tracks, always.

00:50:50.000 Oh my God.

00:50:51.000 I'm going to pull some tears out.

00:50:53.000 I mean, do you see this?

00:50:54.000 These are messages.

00:50:55.000 You scroll down to the next page.

00:50:55.000 Oh my God.

00:50:57.000 This is evil, man.

00:50:58.000 Page 35, right above paragraph 88.

00:51:00.000 We're going to write a movie ASAP. Let's email Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime.

00:51:05.000 I'm dying inside.

00:51:07.000 I'm laughing.

00:51:08.000 They're just like, look, we're going to destroy these guys' lives.

00:51:10.000 We're going to become famous.

00:51:12.000 No one is going to believe that these guys are not guilty.

00:51:15.000 And then we're going to have a Netflix series about it.

00:51:19.000 Wow.

00:51:20.000 So, this is dead in the water on 55 different occasions.

00:51:27.000 This makes me mad, bro.

00:51:29.000 Yeah.

00:51:30.000 It should make you better.

00:51:31.000 This could happen to anybody.

00:51:32.000 Bro, we could have met this chick. 1.00

00:51:34.000 People are...

00:51:35.000 She's from Miami.

00:51:36.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:51:37.000 Like, we could have met this chick. 1.00

00:51:39.000 Because people are saying, oh, they're guilty.

00:51:41.000 But if it was your brother, your father, you wouldn't be laughing or saying that at all.

00:51:44.000 Yeah.

00:51:45.000 And this is malicious, man.

00:51:46.000 This is like intentionally being evil.

00:51:48.000 It's pure evil. 1.00

00:51:50.000 Damn, bro. 1.00

00:51:51.000 Yeah, it is pure evil. 1.00

00:51:54.000 And so...

00:51:57.000 She's into some wild stuff, and I want to be careful about what I'm saying about her.

00:52:03.000 I would encourage everybody to, and I'll make it available to you guys, and maybe we can put it up at some point.

00:52:08.000 We have a link to the complaint.

00:52:10.000 To read the complaint and to read the statement of facts.

00:52:14.000 Anybody who reads the statement of facts, especially if you're a Tate detractor, if you hate Andrew and Tristan Tate, and if you think that they are guilty as hell, you should read this.

00:52:25.000 You should think about the evidence that's clearly presented in the complaint and then ask yourself at the end of that process, can I really say with any reasonable degree of certainty, with a reasonable mind, that they are guilty?

00:52:39.000 They are not.

00:52:40.000 And when you look at the body count that she has and how many guys' lives that she's destroyed, you're going to see somebody who is beyond the pale in terms of...

00:52:54.000 A predator. 0.99

00:52:55.000 She is a sexual, serial predator who preys on men and who destroys their lives. 1.00

00:53:01.000 If you go to page 20, at the top of page 20, There's a man who's in jail, and I'm not going to say his name because it's the subject of another Florida case, 0.97

00:53:16.000 but the man is in jail.

00:53:19.000 And Emma, before she was 18, had this scheme where she would go on these dating sites, say she was 22, she was 24, she had fake IDs, she would go to bars, go out on dates.

00:53:31.000 You have no reason to suspect that she was underage.

00:53:33.000 That's right.

00:53:34.000 And then she would say, oh, by the way, remember that, you know, I want you to do this.

00:53:39.000 I want you to do that.

00:53:40.000 You don't do it.

00:53:41.000 I'm underage.

00:53:42.000 I'm underage. 0.99

00:53:43.000 I've been having sex with you for a year. 0.99

00:53:45.000 What are you talking about? 0.99

00:53:46.000 Yeah.

00:53:46.000 Right?

00:53:47.000 Oh, if you don't do what I want you to do right now, I'm going to report you for statutory rape. 1.00

00:53:51.000 You know, in Florida, all they got to do is breed that in the court and you're going to get smoked. 0.95

00:53:54.000 You're going down.

00:53:55.000 Yeah.

00:53:55.000 Not knowing of age is not a defense in the state of Florida, guys.

00:53:58.000 So in other words, if a chick is underage and you hook up with her and you was like, I met her at a bar, I thought she was 21, she told me she was 21, and you have all this proof, it doesn't matter.

00:54:06.000 That is not a legal defense to statutory rape. 0.80

00:54:09.000 That's right.

00:54:10.000 In Florida.

00:54:11.000 There is one guy, and there were probably others, but there is one guy, he's incarcerated, right?

00:54:16.000 Incarcerated right now.

00:54:17.000 He got like a 26-year sentence.

00:54:19.000 Now, this guy...

00:54:22.000 I think?

00:54:45.000 Before they had sex.

00:54:46.000 And while that's not a defense in Florida, it would be relevant for sentencing.

00:54:50.000 It's a difference if you've knowingly did it for purposes of sentencing and did not know it.

00:54:55.000 So that could have took what's now a 26-year sentence and maybe it would have been a 10-year sentence or a 5-year sentence.

00:55:01.000 Who knows, right?

00:55:02.000 But...

00:55:06.000 We're good to go.

00:55:21.000 He finds out that there's this guy in jail, sitting in jail, unjustly for too long of a time.

00:55:27.000 He tells her, look, you should tell the police about the truth.

00:55:32.000 That way, you know, you can clear this up for him.

00:55:34.000 She threatens him.

00:55:35.000 She threatens to have him locked up.

00:55:37.000 And he drops it because he's just like, look, I can't deal with this right now.

00:55:41.000 At some other point, she's talking about going to meet the prosecutor.

00:55:46.000 For the other case, that's putting the other guy in jail.

00:55:48.000 For the other case.

00:55:49.000 Sorry, if you just go up to 19.

00:55:51.000 Okay.

00:55:52.000 So Marlon's confronting her, and if you see the highlighted portion...

00:55:55.000 This is page 19 right here?

00:55:57.000 Yeah.

00:55:57.000 Okay, right.

00:55:58.000 If you choose, that one.

00:55:59.000 Okay, she goes, if you choose to blackmail me, I'd have no choice except to be honest with the world about what you've done to me, why, and you would have to suffer the repercussions of the truth among several men that are attributing to my problems of behavior of whom I also have evidence for...

00:56:15.000 And then he goes, I hear your points and I'm not manipulating you to do anything.

00:56:18.000 You could do something to prevent me if this were blackmail.

00:56:21.000 There's nothing you can do.

00:56:23.000 I hoped you wouldn't be shallow and selfish.

00:56:25.000 I hoped you would show me you care.

00:56:27.000 You show me you don't care at all.

00:56:28.000 And then she responds, you blackmailed, betrayed my trust and abandoned me.

00:56:31.000 Emphasis added.

00:56:32.000 And then...

00:56:33.000 Abby goes, she goes, thanks for abandoning me, emphasis added.

00:56:37.000 Notice her choice of words.

00:56:38.000 Yeah, of course.

00:56:38.000 She's very smart while she's texting back.

00:56:40.000 Yeah.

00:56:41.000 For evidence.

00:56:42.000 Very smart.

00:56:43.000 So now if you scroll down to just the top of the next page.

00:56:47.000 Okay.

00:56:48.000 Now, she's going to... 0.99

00:56:50.000 Inquires with M. Fisher.

00:56:51.000 This one.

00:56:51.000 Yeah, that's one right there.

00:56:52.000 So just let me give context.

00:56:53.000 She's getting ready to go meet with the Palm Beach County prosecutor.

00:56:57.000 Yeah, because she's the witness.

00:56:58.000 Because she's the witness and sentencing is getting ready to happen.

00:57:01.000 And sentencing is getting ready to happen.

00:57:02.000 Sorry about that.

00:57:03.000 And he's saying, do the right thing.

00:57:05.000 And she's saying, I will, I will, what we just read.

00:57:09.000 I'll ruin your life.

00:57:11.000 So he tells her to come clean and not put this innocent guy in jail.

00:57:14.000 And she's like, no, I'm gonna continue.

00:57:16.000 That is right. 1.00

00:57:17.000 So what she does is on her way to court, or at some point, she puts a butt plug in her ass. 1.00

00:57:24.000 And then she says to him, do you think the butt plug will go off when I cross the metal detectors going to court? 1.00

00:57:31.000 She's getting off on this guy's suffering. 0.84

00:57:34.000 Wow.

00:57:35.000 And read that right there. 0.96

00:57:38.000 Would a butt plug go off through a metal detector?

00:57:40.000 For context, E. Gabby's asking M. Fisher if wearing her butt plug would set off the courthouse metal detector that she needed to go through in order to meet with district attorney who was prosecuted, jailed John based on E. Gabby's allegations. 0.99

00:57:52.000 So this woman gets sexual satisfaction from wrongfully putting a man in jail with lies and she's asking her current lover if the butt plug in her anus is going to go off. 1.00

00:58:05.000 Like, bro, this is fucking sick. 1.00

00:58:08.000 It's next level sick. 1.00

00:58:11.000 So, at some point, things go...

00:58:13.000 This is wild.

00:58:14.000 This is worse than a scary movie, bro.

00:58:15.000 Bro, going to meet with the prosecutor who's gonna ruin this man's life.

00:58:18.000 She's going to lie under oath, by the way, meeting with this prosecutor as a witness in the case.

00:58:23.000 And she gets off to putting this innocent guy in jail. 0.99

00:58:27.000 Wow.

00:58:29.000 So, Marlon, the guy who's telling her to clear it up, shortly thereafter, the guy, Emma says, I want you to go to a concert with me.

00:58:39.000 Marlon's like, I gotta work.

00:58:40.000 I can't do this.

00:58:41.000 I need to be left alone.

00:58:42.000 So she says, well, if you don't do what I want you to do, I will accuse you of rape and domestic violence in court. 0.84

00:58:51.000 She files a false report against him in Palm Beach court.

00:58:55.000 He's got to go in.

00:58:56.000 He's like, look, I'm done with you.

00:58:58.000 You lied to the Palm Beach County court like you did about this other guy.

00:59:02.000 I'm not dealing with this anymore.

00:59:04.000 And she issues like this long statement to him in a series of text messages where she admits the lying and she says, look, I'm going to clear this up.

00:59:11.000 So if you just go to 20, to page 20 right there, and where it says M. Fisher, he's talking about these are all the false things that you said about me in court.

00:59:19.000 Okay.

00:59:20.000 Hey guys, just so you know, we're going to read the chats, and we're going to read the rants after this.

00:59:24.000 We just want to make sure we get it all out there, so if we answer one of your questions throughout the course, it'll be answered, and then, you know, obviously we'll open it up for Q&A at the end.

00:59:32.000 So, okay, sorry.

00:59:33.000 So this is page 20 here, you said?

00:59:35.000 Yeah, and I mean, in terms of pulling this complaint apart, I think this is like the really, like the last paragraph that you should read.

00:59:41.000 Okay.

00:59:41.000 But write down until the quotes are done into the next page.

00:59:45.000 Okay, I will, here, let me throw, I can read it.

00:59:47.000 So this is Fisher saying, you falsely accused me, and you constructed and masterminded a completely false narrative under me.

00:59:55.000 This is a year before she accuses Andrew and Tristan.

00:59:59.000 So see what this guy says and how she responds.

01:00:02.000 So he goes, the things I remember being on it were that I, was a heavy user of illicit drugs, would beat you when you tried to leave, restrain you from leaving, or calling the cops, often left you on the side of the highway if you said anything to upset me.

01:00:15.000 And that I had been stalking you and showing up places that I knew you would be after you anything.

01:00:20.000 So he's reading her complaint that she had given to the police, which wasn't true.

01:00:25.000 This is what she told them.

01:00:26.000 Now, next page, what does she say? 0.99

01:00:27.000 And she responds, that's so fucked up that I wrote that. 0.97

01:00:31.000 I'm going to clear this up. 1.00

01:00:33.000 Are you fucking kidding me? 0.99

01:00:34.000 Get to the bottom. 0.99

01:00:34.000 Keep reading. 0.99

01:00:35.000 Watch.

01:00:35.000 Not to defend any of this, but to clarify, I promise I never said you were a user of drugs.

01:00:41.000 You weren't the one writing it?

01:00:42.000 Fisher responds, and she goes, the things I were definitely rewarded...

01:00:46.000 I think she meant it right here, but I'll read it verbatim.

01:00:49.000 The things I were definitely rewarded and exaggerated.

01:00:52.000 They asked me of events, and then they reworded my words in the official injunction document.

01:00:57.000 I was brought in to speak to two lawyers, the legal aide who had just finished law school that was defending me and her colleague who was training her.

01:01:06.000 Then she goes, I'm incredibly sorry that what I said encapsulated a completely false narrative, especially that paints you as a terrible person because you aren't.

01:01:16.000 You never deserved to be treated that way.

01:01:19.000 Nobody does.

01:01:20.000 And then she follows up saying...

01:01:21.000 None of it was okay.

01:01:23.000 Absolutely none of it.

01:01:24.000 Is there anything you can think of that I can do to prove that I understand that and truly am repentant? 1.00

01:01:32.000 Holy fuck. 1.00

01:01:33.000 What the hell? 1.00

01:01:34.000 If you go back up to that top thing... 0.99

01:01:35.000 Talk about psycho-narcissist? 0.99

01:01:37.000 Crazy. 0.97

01:01:38.000 And it's the same allegations.

01:01:39.000 The things that I remember on it...

01:01:42.000 The heavy illicit use of drugs. 0.99

01:01:44.000 I would beat you when you tried to leave. 0.99

01:01:46.000 I restrained you. 0.56

01:01:46.000 This is the same kind of allegations against Andrew and Tristan. 0.56

01:01:50.000 It's not our first time.

01:01:51.000 It's not our third time.

01:01:51.000 It's not our second time.

01:01:52.000 It's our 10th time doing this.

01:01:54.000 And when confronted with what she told them, she even says, oh, I didn't mean for it to come off that way.

01:01:58.000 That's exaggerated. 0.85

01:02:00.000 There's another point in this complaint, I mean, where she talks about she's a pathological liar, she puts this big confession out into the world, says, I have a history of lying, I need to lie, I'm a compulsive liar.

01:02:11.000 I mean, if anybody who reads this complaint will see that this woman is totally, totally troubled, Andrew and Tristan are totally innocent, and there's a trail of bodies, including a guy who killed himself, pursuant to their interactions with this woman.

01:02:27.000 And that is...

01:02:30.000 The truth is all right here.

01:02:31.000 All you gotta do is read about it.

01:02:32.000 And this is directly from her phone.

01:02:33.000 Like, guys, these are messages that she personally sent herself.

01:02:36.000 This is from her phone.

01:02:37.000 So it's like, I can't stress enough how much you need the whole facts on these girls, bro.

01:02:42.000 Because, dude, that is crazy.

01:02:45.000 Like, I'm pretty sure if Andrew Tristan knew that, they'd never bring the remaining.

01:02:50.000 But they didn't know.

01:02:52.000 No, they had no clue.

01:02:53.000 Yeah, they had no clue, man.

01:02:54.000 Yeah, guys, new rule.

01:02:56.000 A girl on a date with you?

01:02:58.000 Google her name, bro.

01:02:59.000 Facts!

01:03:00.000 You have to, bro.

01:03:00.000 That's crazy, man.

01:03:01.000 That's wild.

01:03:03.000 Real quick. 0.99

01:03:04.000 Yo, we're going to kill the Twitch, Twitter, Facebook. 0.90

01:03:06.000 Guys, come on over to YouTube and Rumble.

01:03:08.000 Some chats real quick?

01:03:08.000 Yeah, I'm going to hit the chats.

01:03:10.000 So guys, go ahead and come on over to YouTube and Rumble.

01:03:13.000 Rumble.com slash Fresh and Fit.

01:03:15.000 Also on YouTube.

01:03:17.000 And do me a favor, guys.

01:03:18.000 Like the video, man, so this can go up in the algorithm so more people can see this.

01:03:21.000 This can save a life.

01:03:22.000 Many lives.

01:03:23.000 This is really crazy.

01:03:25.000 I was pretty well versed in the case, but I didn't know some of these details.

01:03:31.000 And also, I didn't know she had only been there for six days.

01:03:33.000 And for all the male haters of Andrew Tristan, if this was you in this case, you want somebody to defend you as well?

01:03:41.000 I guarantee that.

01:03:42.000 Yeah.

01:03:42.000 I wouldn't wish this upon my worst enemy, bro.

01:03:44.000 Nah, bro.

01:03:45.000 I wouldn't wish this upon my worst enemy. 1.00

01:03:47.000 Damn. 1.00

01:03:47.000 Wallahi. 1.00

01:03:48.000 Yeah.

01:03:49.000 Let's go ahead and hit some of these chats real fast, because I know you guys probably have some questions.

01:03:55.000 We need an app called The Whole Facts, actually.

01:03:57.000 Yeah.

01:03:57.000 Are we on YouTube and Rumble only?

01:03:59.000 Something, bro. 0.83

01:04:01.000 Yeah, let's kill the other streams. 0.98

01:04:02.000 Yeah.

01:04:03.000 YouTube on Rumble only.

01:04:03.000 All right.

01:04:05.000 So guys, go ahead and get your rants in.

01:04:07.000 FNFSuperChat.com.

01:04:08.000 So you can go ahead and if you want to ask a question on the show or get a Rumble rant in.

01:04:13.000 So let's go ahead and go to it.

01:04:14.000 This is disturbing, bro.

01:04:16.000 This is wild.

01:04:16.000 Yeah, dude.

01:04:17.000 I'm not going to lie.

01:04:18.000 The fact that she even says, oh yeah, I didn't mean for it to come off that way sounded exaggerated like, bro. 0.88

01:04:22.000 What the hell, man?

01:04:23.000 She knows what she's doing, bro.

01:04:24.000 What does Joe think of recent sentencing of Proud Boys leader to 15 to 20 years since I know he represented a lot of J6 defenders? 1.00

01:04:31.000 I think it's an egregious miscarriage of justice.

01:04:34.000 I mean, these guys, irrespective of their political beliefs, went to a protest that got out of hand.

01:04:39.000 And January 6th did not happen in a vacuum.

01:04:42.000 There was a stream of protests related to George Floyd and other unfortunate deaths in this country of minority persons that led to protests.

01:04:48.000 All over the place, some of them got violent.

01:04:50.000 Most of those people got a slap on the wrist.

01:04:52.000 So the expectation was if you went to the Capitol and got into it and things popped off that day, you'd get a slap on the wrist and go home.

01:04:58.000 No one could have ever conceived that somebody would get 20 years in jail for doing the same thing that somebody in Minneapolis did. 0.96

01:05:04.000 It's ridiculous. 0.71

01:05:04.000 Were they made to be an example to the public, you think? 0.71

01:05:06.000 Of course.

01:05:07.000 These guys, this is the criminalization of Of free speech.

01:05:13.000 It is the politicization.

01:05:15.000 It's politicizing the criminal justice system to suppress political dissidents.

01:05:20.000 It is the idea that if you do not subscribe to the party narrative, the communist party narrative that's in power, we will crush you with the power of the United States government.

01:05:30.000 We'll fall in line and do what you're told and dress how you're supposed to dress and call people their pronouns.

01:05:36.000 Otherwise, we're going to lock you up and we're going to throw away the key.

01:05:38.000 Yeah, that's what we're going towards, man.

01:05:40.000 Alex Jones' guy, also, I think you recently got arrested.

01:05:43.000 Do you hear about that?

01:05:44.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:05:45.000 I've spoken to him.

01:05:46.000 He's got a good lawyer.

01:05:47.000 I think they're looking for like a hundred and something days for him in jail.

01:05:52.000 Are you talking about Owen?

01:05:53.000 Because it's a misdemeanor, I think, if they're trying to charge him.

01:05:55.000 They're trying to get him the max 180 days in jail or something like that.

01:05:58.000 He didn't do anything.

01:05:59.000 He didn't go in.

01:06:01.000 He gave a political speech and he bounced.

01:06:05.000 We're good to go.

01:06:21.000 When your intentions of exiting your house that day are grounded in the First Amendment, you're supposed to get a pass.

01:06:26.000 We understand you went out for political reasons.

01:06:29.000 You didn't go out for criminal reasons.

01:06:30.000 Something may have happened, but we generally incorporate the Constitution and the First Amendment into the analysis when it comes to criminality.

01:06:39.000 It has not happened here.

01:06:40.000 They're making an example of these guys because of who they're supporting to be president in 2024.

01:06:46.000 Okay.

01:06:47.000 Hey man, I'm voting for myself.

01:06:50.000 What else we got here?

01:06:52.000 We got Sub goes, yo Myron, bring Crowder on your pod sometime.

01:06:56.000 He is a closeted FNF fan.

01:06:58.000 I hope you know that.

01:06:59.000 Shout out to Steven Crowder, man.

01:06:59.000 I like Steven Crowder.

01:07:00.000 Shout out to him.

01:07:01.000 Yeah, we'd be happy to have him on.

01:07:03.000 We got, King Colonel goes, Joe, if the glove don't fit, you must acquit.

01:07:06.000 Is that true?

01:07:07.000 You guys are the best.

01:07:08.000 Keep up the great work, Myron Freshmo and Bills.

01:07:09.000 I appreciate that, King Colonel.

01:07:11.000 And then we got here, YFNL goes, the return on Flex Webinar with Fresh was fire.

01:07:17.000 Okay?

01:07:17.000 Oh, yeah.

01:07:19.000 Shout out to you guys.

01:07:19.000 And then we got here, D-City knows, goes, anybody who falsely accused someone of a crime needs to be fined or timed.

01:07:25.000 Free the Tates, WFNF, WSneeko.

01:07:27.000 By the way, Candice owned the 304s on such and such podcast. 0.54

01:07:30.000 Must watch.

01:07:33.000 L, Logan Paul.

01:07:34.000 Okay.

01:07:36.000 And then we got here, Cold World.

01:07:37.000 It is.

01:07:38.000 Very cold.

01:07:39.000 And then I think we had some of those.

01:07:40.000 Yeah, the Super Chats.

01:07:40.000 Super Chats.

01:07:41.000 Damn, man. 1.00

01:07:42.000 Yeah, this is wild, bro. 1.00

01:07:44.000 It's literally crazy stuff, man.

01:07:48.000 Evening from Vermont.

01:07:49.000 Joe, are you able to speak on whether or not you think the judge is going to be fair on this case?

01:07:53.000 Or in other words, do you know anything about this judge past and how fairly he has treated people?

01:07:58.000 Thanks.

01:07:59.000 So the way that the system works in Romania is different in here.

01:08:04.000 They have different levels.

01:08:05.000 The case kind of progresses.

01:08:07.000 And at each level, once a judge touches it, it changes out the judge.

01:08:13.000 So it's a new pool.

01:08:15.000 Somebody is selected to go into the next stage, the next stage, the next stage.

01:08:18.000 What I can say is that the judges appear to be reasonable and balanced.

01:08:22.000 They're currently making the right decisions based on the facts.

01:08:27.000 It's getting better instead of getting worse.

01:08:29.000 So we're confident that the next judge is going to be just as astute and fair and balanced as the one before him.

01:08:37.000 Okay.

01:08:39.000 Let's see here.

01:08:40.000 Guys, now is your time to get your questions in.

01:08:42.000 I appreciate the content y'all do.

01:08:44.000 Tate's were the first ones I seen pop up that helped me find the will to keep pushing when no one is behind you.

01:08:51.000 FNF were the second to help me see more of what I can be to a woman worth the time.

01:08:55.000 Afro Dragon. 0.64

01:08:55.000 There you go. 0.64

01:08:57.000 That's from Afro Dragon. 0.84

01:08:58.000 Oh, he goes, Andrew says his case has nothing to do with his webcam business, but a lot of YouTubers are using this to call him a liar because there's an indictment on Reddit that says his case is connected to his past webcam business.

01:09:12.000 Please clarify this.

01:09:13.000 That's a great question and I appreciate you bringing up that point.

01:09:19.000 It's very, very important to understand that we're talking about a two-year time frame here with regard to the current case.

01:09:27.000 Things that Andrew Tate said or did or participated in three years ago, four years ago, ten years ago are not relevant.

01:09:35.000 What his enemies are doing is they're regurgitating stuff that he said when he was a little bit more street and And had a bunch of, had far less followers 10, 15 years ago, or even five years ago, right?

01:09:49.000 He's a changed person, he's a changed man, he's metamorphosized and transitioned and blossomed into a strong, God-fearing, pro-men, pro-health, pro-business man, Since that time.

01:10:02.000 Was he involved in the webcam business for a time?

01:10:05.000 Yes.

01:10:06.000 That's a long time ago.

01:10:08.000 Does the webcam business have anything to do with the case that he's involved in now?

01:10:12.000 No, it does not.

01:10:14.000 Does his speech or his comments from years ago have anything to do with the case right now?

01:10:18.000 No, it does not.

01:10:19.000 Why are people incorporating these things into the public narrative?

01:10:22.000 Because the case is weak, as we've just saw, and because they know that the process is a punishment.

01:10:28.000 If they could slander him and if they could put these things into the public consciousness and aggravate people and fan the flames on people based on what he said a long time ago, maybe they'll not examine the evidence in front of them now and they'll just say, oh, Andrew Tate's a bad guy because he said this in 1986.

01:10:45.000 And that's the end of it.

01:10:46.000 That's what it's designed to do.

01:10:48.000 It has no relevance whatsoever with what's going on now.

01:10:51.000 So, and for all the detractors out there, so to be clear, The criminal case against him in Romania is based on the events that went down in 2022.

01:11:04.000 Well, 2023 they were in jail for a lot of it, but for 2022 basically.

01:11:10.000 Emma Gabby and Aliona, these girls are the main accusers. 0.99

01:11:13.000 That is what this case, the criminal case in Romania is based upon.

01:11:16.000 Right.

01:11:17.000 Not stuff from the PhD course or stuff that he said before or running a webcam business prior.

01:11:22.000 It is based on this situation now.

01:11:24.000 That's right.

01:11:25.000 And it's worthy to note that you have big, gigantic record labels out there who promote this kind of talk with their rappers and their conduct and their artists.

01:11:34.000 And they make billions of dollars off of it.

01:11:37.000 But because he says it, it's somehow criminal.

01:11:37.000 Yeah.

01:11:39.000 It is absolutely ridiculous. 0.98

01:11:42.000 And it's wrong. 0.55

01:11:44.000 So his prior conduct prior to these course of events happening has nothing to do.

01:11:48.000 Emma is the key to the city here.

01:11:51.000 She's the person upon which all things turn.

01:11:55.000 Also, people forget satire and just jokes as well.

01:11:58.000 They take it so serious because they want to push the agenda towards the case.

01:12:01.000 Yeah, because some people are trying to allege that the Romanian charges are based on not just Emma and Aliona, but on other women prior, before, and that this has been going on for years.

01:12:13.000 That's what they're trying to say.

01:12:15.000 They're saying the Romanian indictment is based on a longer time span.

01:12:20.000 With false women. 1.00

01:12:23.000 Matt Shea just put out this recent piece in the BBC about this special.

01:12:30.000 They had two alleged victims.

01:12:33.000 They blurred out their faces to make it look like Andrew and Tristan are somehow predatory.

01:12:39.000 It's directing.

01:12:41.000 It's a production.

01:12:42.000 It has nothing to do with the truth. 0.94

01:12:44.000 They took a woman who was probably close to 30 years old and they sat her on a bed with friggin' dolls to make her look like she's 12. 0.86

01:12:50.000 She's not 12, but they did this to convey to the public that these women are somehow helpless victims and Andrew and Tristan are somehow like these monsters when nothing could be further from the truth. 0.87

01:13:02.000 People forget these guys are trying to be entertainers first.

01:13:04.000 They're not necessarily trying to report the news.

01:13:09.000 Okay, let's...

01:13:10.000 What else do we got here?

01:13:12.000 Okay, fresh.

01:13:13.000 I have an Instagram with 93k followers with 60 to 70% of them are fake.

01:13:16.000 How can I fix that?

01:13:17.000 How can I verify if you can help fix that?

01:13:19.000 I'll pay the course.

01:13:20.000 Get a new one, bro.

01:13:21.000 If you're worried about that as a problem, get a new one.

01:13:23.000 Yeah.

01:13:24.000 But just a side note, everyone has fake followers.

01:13:28.000 Evening...

01:13:28.000 No, read that one from Vermont.

01:13:29.000 Anything else?

01:13:33.000 Okay.

01:13:33.000 Also, Joe, how can there be this much evidence against the girls when nothing happens to them?

01:13:38.000 Do you think they will be locked up eventually?

01:13:40.000 What are the odds of them being locked up?

01:13:41.000 All this makes me disgusted.

01:13:43.000 And that's from Hunter.

01:13:44.000 Thanks, Hunter, for the question.

01:13:46.000 Look, that's why we have filed...

01:13:49.000 In the American Court of Law in Florida, it's a first step in the civil process in terms of articulating to the world the falsity.

01:13:58.000 Most people have had no idea what was going on.

01:14:01.000 These allegations are so strong that we have a team of lawyers in six months of investigation and months of investigation before that witnesses affidavit statements.

01:14:12.000 We've made a federal case out of this.

01:14:15.000 And it's in court right now, and she's being sued.

01:14:19.000 Does her conduct arise to the level of criminality?

01:14:22.000 Yes.

01:14:23.000 Will she be prosecuted in Palm Beach?

01:14:26.000 There's a substantial likelihood that she will be.

01:14:29.000 Okay, nice.

01:14:30.000 And will these...

01:14:31.000 I was going to ask that next.

01:14:32.000 Should these, what we're doing in Florida, should this exonerate them fully across the board in terms of the Romanian case?

01:14:39.000 It should.

01:14:40.000 And this is one of our masterful moves on the chessboard.

01:14:46.000 Okay.

01:14:47.000 I guess from a legal perspective, what would she be charged with?

01:14:50.000 Because she would have to get...

01:14:50.000 If she was to be charged...

01:14:52.000 Would it be a state case?

01:14:53.000 Would it be a federal case?

01:14:54.000 Because I'm trying to think how she would...

01:14:55.000 Maybe defrauding the U.S. I'm trying to think...

01:14:58.000 Defrauding the U.S. government because she called the U.S. Embassy?

01:15:00.000 You can just start at the basic state level, right?

01:15:04.000 Take Andrew and Tristan out of this, right?

01:15:06.000 Just for a second.

01:15:07.000 There are five other guys, seven other guys, one of them dead...

01:15:12.000 Rest in peace.

01:15:14.000 Yes, rest in peace.

01:15:15.000 Wow.

01:15:15.000 Who have been...

01:15:28.000 Okay.

01:15:32.000 Okay.

01:15:42.000 Man, I hope they do something, bro.

01:15:43.000 I mean, if they censor money, wire fraud could be federal.

01:15:48.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:15:50.000 That's right.

01:15:51.000 And that's kind of like a catch-all.

01:15:54.000 That's one of the easy charges on the Fed side that you can hit somebody with that, false statements, you know.

01:15:59.000 Okay, we got here Durag Myron.

01:16:02.000 Yes, we want to see that. 1.00

01:16:05.000 He goes, Yo Myron, this is wild as fuck. 0.98

01:16:06.000 I'm happy there's a platform, only one, that actually exposed the truth. 1.00

01:16:09.000 These women are ruthless. 1.00

01:16:10.000 We men are literally victims just waiting in the line. 0.99

01:16:13.000 Crazy.

01:16:14.000 Stay safe, brothers. 0.95

01:16:15.000 Yeah, bro.

01:16:15.000 This is wild, man.

01:16:17.000 We got City Boys We Up.

01:16:19.000 Oh, okay. 0.97

01:16:21.000 Shadow MF goes, Romania is a corrupt country.

01:16:23.000 You can bribe any judge when the Matrix isn't the one attacking you.

01:16:27.000 America's a country as well.

01:16:29.000 That's true.

01:16:30.000 You know, one of the things that we're trying to do is we're overwhelming all the systems with truth.

01:16:37.000 We are not running from the facts here.

01:16:39.000 We're pumping the truth out for digestion.

01:16:41.000 We're making it so palatable and so overwhelming that the only reasonable conclusion has to be that these guys walk and she gets prosecuted.

01:16:49.000 I think if they see the truth, the Romanian government will say, you know what?

01:16:53.000 All right.

01:16:53.000 Here's the truth.

01:16:54.000 We can let them go fully.

01:16:56.000 I had a question for you.

01:16:58.000 Hopefully.

01:16:58.000 I agree.

01:16:58.000 Hopefully.

01:16:59.000 So, in the United States, right, we, you know, just for the audience, you guys know, when you have a witness, they typically have to come back and testify at a trial, right?

01:17:06.000 Unless they do a deposition, which I doubt they did that here, tape deposition.

01:17:10.000 In the Romanian case, would she have to go back to Romania and testify in trial?

01:17:16.000 Yeah, she'll have to testify. 0.99

01:17:19.000 If it reaches a certain point, surely.

01:17:22.000 And she'll also have to endure my cross-examination here in the civil case.

01:17:29.000 Right?

01:17:30.000 We're not gonna...

01:17:31.000 Well, yeah, she has to take the stand in the civil case. 1.00

01:17:32.000 Oh, yeah, she has to take the stand. 1.00

01:17:33.000 She's a defendant.

01:17:36.000 Andrew and Tristan are plaintiffs.

01:17:38.000 She is a defendant.

01:17:39.000 She's a named defendant in the civil case. 0.99

01:17:42.000 If...

01:17:43.000 The idea of me having her on the stand... 1.00

01:17:45.000 Oh, you're going to kill her, bro. 1.00

01:17:46.000 Forget it. 1.00

01:17:46.000 I will rip her to shreds. 1.00

01:17:48.000 Body bag. 1.00

01:17:49.000 She has body bag for sure. 1.00

01:17:50.000 She has no chance of survival.

01:17:53.000 I don't see how she gets on and endures this.

01:17:57.000 At some point, she's going to have to cop out to the truth.

01:17:59.000 What they're trying to do is they're trying to make her look like the victim, and I am back and forth with their legal team all the time saying, you need to stop...

01:18:07.000 Framing this like your client is somehow the victim.

01:18:09.000 It says defend it next to her name in this case. 0.99

01:18:12.000 Get it through your freaking head. 0.95

01:18:15.000 And just so the audience understands, because you guys might be wondering, well, hold on, she's a defendant. 0.99

01:18:18.000 Why is she taking the stand? 1.00

01:18:19.000 Guys, she has no Fifth Amendment privilege in a civil case. 1.00

01:18:22.000 Nope.

01:18:22.000 So she has to take the stand.

01:18:23.000 And Discovery's a whole lot more invasive.

01:18:27.000 In the civil case.

01:18:28.000 Oh, yeah.

01:18:29.000 So you guys have...

01:18:29.000 Oh, yeah, because you guys have...

01:18:30.000 Oh, now I see why they don't want you guys to put the evidence out, because through Discovery, you have all their phone records.

01:18:36.000 Depositions, phone records.

01:18:38.000 I mean, we're going...

01:18:42.000 After all of it.

01:18:43.000 So how much time would she get if she gets convicted? 0.68

01:18:46.000 Depends.

01:18:46.000 So if she's referred for prosecution, the victims go in and make statements, and it depends if it's felonies or not.

01:18:54.000 Do we think that her conduct arises to the level of a felony?

01:18:58.000 Sure.

01:18:58.000 That'll have to be a decision that the relevant police law enforcement agencies and prosecutorial agencies make, but if it's a felony, it'll be up to a year.

01:19:09.000 If it's If it's a felony plus whatever, it could be, you know, it all depends on what she goes down on. 1.00

01:19:14.000 But first, there's no criminal case against her right now.

01:19:16.000 So he's going after her civilly.

01:19:19.000 So, yeah, so he's suing her.

01:19:20.000 What are y'all suing her for?

01:19:22.000 How much?

01:19:22.000 Right now it's $5 million.

01:19:24.000 Okay.

01:19:25.000 Look.

01:19:25.000 Well, she doesn't have that.

01:19:26.000 Compared to what they lost?

01:19:27.000 Yeah, yeah, that's nothing.

01:19:28.000 I think this is more of a sending a message than, you know.

01:19:32.000 A lot of people are like, this is Andrew and Tristan Tate.

01:19:35.000 Why isn't that $5 billion?

01:19:37.000 And there's a few reasons, right?

01:19:39.000 It's number one.

01:19:41.000 We know she doesn't have it.

01:19:42.000 Hell no.

01:19:42.000 She never got 1M. Right.

01:19:44.000 She probably never got 20,000. 0.79

01:19:45.000 She could call one of her white knights.

01:19:46.000 Yeah.

01:19:47.000 Number two, we didn't want the court to think that this was strictly about money.

01:19:52.000 Yeah.

01:19:52.000 Do they deserve to be compensated for their damages?

01:19:54.000 Way more, yeah.

01:19:55.000 Of course.

01:19:55.000 But this is about the pursuit of truth.

01:19:58.000 So when we were bouncing around the ideas of money and what should we do, it's got to look, and we were like, what is $5 million?

01:20:06.000 $5 million is the cost of a Bugatti.

01:20:09.000 So...

01:20:11.000 Andrew was like, I think I need a Bugatti out of this at least.

01:20:17.000 He's slick.

01:20:17.000 I just took that away from him, but he's slick like that.

01:20:20.000 And, you know, he deserves to get it.

01:20:23.000 Yeah, no, and more.

01:20:25.000 After wasting the embassy's time, the police, everybody, that's like, isn't that federal?

01:20:30.000 It could be, but they haven't brought a criminal case against her.

01:20:34.000 I mean, I think if the civil case wins, now there's an argument to pursue criminal charges against her. 1.00

01:20:41.000 First step.

01:20:42.000 Yeah, they got to get her civilly, which I think, I mean, remember, in the civil court, it's just preponderance of the evidence.

01:20:48.000 51% versus 49%.

01:20:50.000 So they have more than enough.

01:20:53.000 Do you think she's going to go to trial?

01:20:54.000 I see her settling.

01:20:56.000 Look, um...

01:20:57.000 She doesn't want to have to go up against you in the stand. 0.79

01:20:59.000 She has no Fifth Amendment privilege.

01:21:00.000 She has to testify truthfully.

01:21:01.000 She's going to be on there on the stand.

01:21:02.000 You're going to beat her up and you're going to attack her with her character.

01:21:04.000 The text messages.

01:21:05.000 You said you guys did discovery, which means you have all of her records. 1.00

01:21:08.000 You probably have videos of her doing stupid shit as well. 1.00

01:21:11.000 And that's all going to come out in court. 1.00

01:21:12.000 Right.

01:21:13.000 During the trial.

01:21:14.000 Like, all of that stuff is going to come out.

01:21:16.000 He's going to use it against her.

01:21:17.000 Oh, is it not true that you're not a sex worker?

01:21:19.000 I'm not a sex worker. 0.84

01:21:20.000 Oh, what are you doing here? 0.65

01:21:21.000 Why is there a message here of you accepting this money for doing this sexual activity? 0.97

01:21:25.000 There's a reason why they're trying to seal the evidence.

01:21:28.000 That's right.

01:21:30.000 In the alternative...

01:21:31.000 You don't have to confirm or deny, but I'm assuming that's probably what's in there to some degree.

01:21:36.000 Yeah.

01:21:36.000 I think you're smart.

01:21:38.000 In the alternative, she can just tell the truth.

01:21:41.000 This is what this is about.

01:21:43.000 Just tell the truth and the whole thing just stops.

01:21:50.000 We're the ones having to clear their names.

01:21:54.000 We're the ones having to sue for damages for them because of what's happened to their lives.

01:22:00.000 The deprivation of your freedom is serious.

01:22:04.000 And house arrest is And the inability to fly and to drive and do all the things and generate, they are out on hundreds of millions of dollars.

01:22:15.000 And they're out on time.

01:22:17.000 I mean, look at Johnny Depp. 0.85

01:22:18.000 I mean, without his evidence, he would have been screwed.

01:22:21.000 He lost millions of movies and acting scenes because of a lie.

01:22:21.000 That's right.

01:22:24.000 Yeah.

01:22:25.000 That's right.

01:22:25.000 The opportunity costs were ridiculous.

01:22:29.000 We got some more here or no?

01:22:31.000 Yeah, we definitely can go back to it.

01:22:35.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't see her.

01:22:37.000 I mean, dude, there's no way that she can go to...

01:22:40.000 I mean, what's her legal team strategy?

01:22:43.000 Are they just trying to delay, delay, delay at this point?

01:22:45.000 Well, they just want to paint her as a victim. 1.00

01:22:48.000 Right.

01:22:49.000 That's it.

01:22:50.000 They want to say that Andrew and Tristan are the bad guys, that her client is one of other victims, and it couldn't be further from the truth.

01:23:01.000 Andrew and Tristan are innocent.

01:23:04.000 There's no way under God's green earth that they're going to go down on these cases if they get a fair shake.

01:23:11.000 And they deserve to have their names cleared.

01:23:14.000 These are good men, smart businessmen, resourceful people who come from nothing, who became something, and they're being targeted for reasons that have nothing to do with who they are and what they've done.

01:23:28.000 It's about what they say and what they believe in.

01:23:31.000 Fair enough.

01:23:32.000 Fair.

01:23:33.000 Alright, what else we got here?

01:23:35.000 We got AfroDragon goes, thanks for clarifying.

01:23:37.000 Based on what you said, there's a false indictment running around.

01:23:39.000 The internet slandering Andrew Tate.

01:23:41.000 Just want to let you know so Tate's name can be cleared up.

01:23:45.000 Yeah, I did hear about this, that there's different versions of the Romanian indictment.

01:23:52.000 One that alleges that the case has more extensive than just the past year or two, that they have a multitude and years of evidence and stuff like that.

01:24:02.000 I don't know if that...

01:24:03.000 That makes no sense.

01:24:05.000 Okay.

01:24:05.000 No.

01:24:06.000 So the Romanian case is exclusively based upon...

01:24:10.000 Emma and Aliona pretty much.

01:24:11.000 It's the past couple years of conduct and look, what I put it past this you know this believe all woman prosecutor and I don't say that in the mean to be offensive.

01:24:27.000 I say that in the mean to people should understand there are good people and bad people.

01:24:30.000 Good men and bad men and a good woman and a bad woman. 0.99

01:24:32.000 This is obviously an evil woman. 1.00

01:24:35.000 And what I put it past him to try to Yeah.

01:24:49.000 Yeah.

01:24:53.000 Yeah.

01:24:54.000 Yeah.

01:25:01.000 Releasing them in the first place, house arrest.

01:25:03.000 I think they're starting to see that, hey man, maybe these women aren't telling the truth here. 1.00

01:25:09.000 Hunter goes, sorry.

01:25:13.000 Joe, what is the craziest case he worked on ever?

01:25:16.000 Oh man.

01:25:17.000 Probably this one, right?

01:25:18.000 This is right up there.

01:25:19.000 Yeah, this is up there.

01:25:21.000 You know, I try not to out previous clients.

01:25:25.000 Obviously, there's attorney-client stuff, but there's some public knowledge stuff as well.

01:25:29.000 But this one has to be just due to the scope, the international attention, and just the sheer utter bullcrap of the allegations that just...

01:25:41.000 These guys are being held in jail for nothing.

01:25:43.000 If you care about freedom, if you care about justice in any way, shape or form, you should be outraged by this.

01:25:51.000 It's unjust and it's wrong.

01:25:54.000 Yeah.

01:25:56.000 She will have to swallow loads of children for five million. 1.00

01:26:00.000 That's from Shadow MF. Oh, man.

01:26:06.000 Call her Emma Bucket. 1.00

01:26:08.000 Yeah, Emma Bucket. 0.51

01:26:11.000 Yeah, I mean, that pretty much answers most of my questions, man.

01:26:17.000 Because, you know, there's obviously the naysayers that are saying, like, no, he said a bunch of other stuff, and there's other witnesses out there, but the Romania case, it seems, is exclusively based upon...

01:26:29.000 Her allegations.

01:26:31.000 Yeah, Emma, who basically got Aliona to get into the situation. 1.00

01:26:36.000 Did some of the charges get dropped, from what I understand?

01:26:38.000 Yeah, some of the charges got dropped.

01:26:42.000 They dropped this, they put that on it.

01:26:44.000 They're doing what they can do.

01:26:45.000 This is the prosecutor in the government.

01:26:47.000 They're doing what they can do to make the case survive.

01:26:50.000 They understand that certain charges just had no factual allegations.

01:26:53.000 The rape charges were dropped, right?

01:26:54.000 Yeah, of course they were, because rape never happened. 0.96

01:26:58.000 Exactly.

01:26:59.000 So that kind of jostling of things is going to be a long-term thing until this goes away.

01:27:05.000 But if you look at the evidence, and I'll post on my Twitter a link to the complaint.

01:27:10.000 I'll give you guys a link to the complaint.

01:27:11.000 Maybe you can send it out somehow.

01:27:13.000 But if you read the complaint...

01:27:14.000 We'll put it in the description for them.

01:27:15.000 Appreciate that.

01:27:16.000 Yeah, let's put it in the description.

01:27:18.000 Mo, you got it in the Miami Takeover, I think.

01:27:20.000 Let's throw that complaint in there so guys can read through it themselves if they want.

01:27:24.000 Just so you know, a complaint is the official document that was filed to kick off the lawsuit.

01:27:28.000 You'll see she had an OnlyFans.

01:27:31.000 She was on Seeking Arrangements.

01:27:33.000 She was on Sugar Daddy This and Seeking That.

01:27:36.000 All the dating apps.

01:27:37.000 Yeah, all the dating apps.

01:27:38.000 Typical Miami girl. 1.00

01:27:39.000 Right, so this is not Little Red Riding on here.

01:27:43.000 No, not at all. 0.99

01:27:43.000 And not only that, you know, this is a girl, very promiscuous guys, enjoys rough sex, likes to be choked and all this other weird stuff. 0.99

01:27:52.000 She's really big into BDSM. You know, I've done my homework on this chick. 1.00

01:27:55.000 She's definitely not necessarily the best person, right?

01:27:59.000 And she did all this, right? 0.98

01:28:01.000 Because if she has rough sex with people, well, she might have bruises. 0.98

01:28:03.000 If she has bruises, what could she do? 0.99

01:28:05.000 Oh, I was a victim of XYZ. Yeah.

01:28:08.000 And then she'll report you. 1.00

01:28:09.000 Sexual deviant. 0.99

01:28:10.000 She'll prosecute you and she'll show up to her arraignment with a butt plug. 1.00

01:28:13.000 Exactly. 0.68

01:28:13.000 Because she gets off on it. 0.68

01:28:14.000 Like, this is a sick individual.

01:28:16.000 She gets off on putting men in jail for crimes they did not commit. 0.95

01:28:21.000 And then, when confronted with her, you know, inconsistencies, oh, I said that about you?

01:28:27.000 Wow, I didn't mean it that way.

01:28:28.000 That was exaggerated.

01:28:29.000 Lack of accountability.

01:28:31.000 Don't say it in the first place.

01:28:33.000 Incredible.

01:28:33.000 Yeah.

01:28:34.000 What else do we got here?

01:28:36.000 This is a...

01:28:37.000 We got Hunter goes, not sure if you have answered this or not, but what is the time frame for all of this BS being done?

01:28:46.000 Well, the American case is still in its initial stages.

01:28:53.000 We're fighting between should it be in federal court, should it be in state court.

01:28:57.000 We're trying to bring it back to state court right now.

01:29:00.000 Is state a better venue?

01:29:01.000 Because I was wondering why you guys went the state route versus federal.

01:29:03.000 We think it's a better venue.

01:29:06.000 And it just makes sense because the allegations are local.

01:29:10.000 But if we have to do it in federal court, we'll do it in federal court.

01:29:13.000 We have a rhyme, a reason for it, for sure.

01:29:15.000 We're prepared for both sets of circumstances.

01:29:18.000 And in terms of the case in Romania, look...

01:29:23.000 I can't really say.

01:29:24.000 They have a fantastic legal team in Romania.

01:29:27.000 They do very good work.

01:29:28.000 They have an American lawyer on the team too, right?

01:29:31.000 I forget her name.

01:29:32.000 Tina?

01:29:33.000 Yes.

01:29:33.000 She's on that team.

01:29:34.000 She's a great lawyer. 1.00

01:29:35.000 We're all on the same team together.

01:29:37.000 We all interact with that team.

01:29:40.000 We consult with that team.

01:29:41.000 But the Romanian team...

01:29:42.000 It's the only team that can stand up in Romanian court, right?

01:29:45.000 So we're all lawyers.

01:29:47.000 We put our heads together.

01:29:48.000 We put our thinking caps on, but they got to go in there and step in into that ring.

01:29:51.000 We step into our respective rings depending on where we're admitted.

01:29:55.000 Yeah.

01:29:55.000 Okay.

01:29:57.000 What else?

01:29:58.000 Anything else?

01:29:58.000 Okay.

01:29:58.000 Nick.

01:29:59.000 This last one, Bills?

01:30:00.000 Yep.

01:30:00.000 Question for Joe.

01:30:01.000 What do you feel about changing an attorney mid-case?

01:30:05.000 It happens all the time.

01:30:07.000 It's not an indication of anything.

01:30:11.000 Think about Andrew and Tristan Tate's legal team like a football team that's getting ready to go to the Super Bowl.

01:30:18.000 You make trades, you pick up free agents at the trade deadline, you do what you gotta do to solidify your team to guarantee the win at the end of the day, and that's what they've done.

01:30:29.000 Right.

01:30:29.000 And there's different sects of the team, guys, right?

01:30:31.000 You got offense, you got defense, you got special teams, etc.

01:30:34.000 You can kind of look at it like that, where you got a Romanian team, you got obviously the UK team.

01:30:38.000 The UK team, are they dealing more with all the schools trying to ban his name and everything else like that?

01:30:45.000 It's crazy.

01:30:45.000 Right now...

01:30:46.000 We have to wait and see what happens with the UK. What's happening with the BBC is troubling.

01:30:53.000 They are knowingly publishing false inflammation, defamatory statements to the public in an effort to poison the stream of consciousness when it comes to Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate in order to get possibly a conviction or cancellation or whatever it is in the United Kingdom.

01:31:09.000 People who support Andrew and Tristan in those countries should speak up and take whatever legal action they can on their behalf because it's wrong and it's disgusting and I think there'll eventually be a lawsuit against the BBC and their DNG reporter for the false accusations that they've put into the very public sphere about Andrew and Tristan.

01:31:36.000 That's good, man.

01:31:37.000 I mean, there's a reason why public, you know, mainstream media is dying.

01:31:41.000 It's dead.

01:31:42.000 You know, yeah.

01:31:43.000 It's literally, you know, it's on its last leg here because they don't report the truth anymore.

01:31:49.000 They're more concerned about pushing political agendas of whoever's in office.

01:31:53.000 You know, that's really what it comes down to.

01:31:55.000 Okay, I think that's it, Bills?

01:31:58.000 Yeah, we're done.

01:32:00.000 Joe, I'll give you the last word, man.

01:32:02.000 What are your final thoughts?

01:32:03.000 Thank you so much for coming on the show and clearing up a bunch of things that people had questions on.

01:32:08.000 Sure, thank you guys both for having me.

01:32:10.000 The case of Andrew and Tristan Tate is not just about them.

01:32:14.000 They're sort of the gatekeepers for many men who feel under attack.

01:32:20.000 If Andrew and Tristan somehow if their situation does not work out the right way Their attackers and the people who are trying to cancel them and incarcerate them will come for everybody else who's behind them.

01:32:32.000 That's you, and that's me, and that's everybody else who sees the world the way that we do.

01:32:38.000 We may not agree on everything, but what we do agree on is that men have a right to self-determine, men have a right to be powerful, men have a right to participate in a free marketplace of ideas, speak their mind without going to jail for it.

01:32:49.000 And we need to protect that.

01:32:51.000 Men have made this world great.

01:32:53.000 Men have made this country great.

01:32:54.000 And I would encourage everybody, especially Tate Detractors, to read the complaint with an open mind and let me know what you think once you get to the end of that complaint. 0.69

01:33:06.000 Wow.

01:33:07.000 Yeah.

01:33:07.000 I read through it, guys, and it's crazy.

01:33:09.000 I mean, you can only really come to one logically sound conclusion.

01:33:13.000 I mean, they were going through her phone, just a text message that she personally sent.

01:33:17.000 It's irrefutable.

01:33:19.000 Man, I would hope that we ever got accused like this.

01:33:22.000 Y'all defend us, man. 0.99

01:33:23.000 Goddamn! 0.99

01:33:24.000 Yeah, man. 0.99

01:33:24.000 That's crazy. 0.99

01:33:25.000 Yeah, man.

01:33:26.000 But, Joe, thank you so much for coming, man.

01:33:28.000 It was a pleasure to speak with you.

01:33:29.000 Obviously, bringing an expert that knows what's going on because everyone thinks they're, you know, an expert on the internet nowadays.

01:33:34.000 Oh, I could speak to this, blah, blah, blah, and a lot of them don't know anything. 1.00

01:33:37.000 So, A lot of you Twitter lawyers are stupid. 1.00

01:33:39.000 We brought a real one in. 1.00

01:33:40.000 Guys, we'll be back with some lovey ladies on the show. 1.00

01:33:43.000 Don't forget to like the video, subscribe.

01:33:44.000 Guys, the complaint is linked below.

01:33:46.000 Please go ahead and take your time to go ahead and read it.

01:33:48.000 It was very well written.

01:33:49.000 It goes through all the facts.

01:33:51.000 It's Emma's own words, guys.

01:33:52.000 It's the accuser's own words, and you can't really refute that.

01:33:55.000 We'll catch you guys on the next one.

01:33:56.000 Peace!

01:33:57.000 I ran, I ran so far away I just ran, I ran all night and day

Fresh & Fit - September 08, 2023

Tate Attorney Joe McBride & Former Fed EXPOSE "Trafficking Victims" LIES Against The Tates

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