Joe McBride, Andrew and Tristan Tate's lawyer joins the show to talk about the Tate case and what it means to be a man in this world and not be persecuted for it and not go to jail for it. He also talks about the importance of free speech and why you should not be afraid to speak your mind. Thank you Joe McBride for coming on the show and joining us in the fight for the Tate brothers and the fight against cancellation of the show. We are live streaming right now to every platform, including Twitch, YouTube, Twitch, Twitch.tv, etc. and we are streaming it everywhere you like to watch, so be sure to hit us up and let us know what you like and what you don't like about the show! Also, subscribe to our new streaming service, RumbleRant, and show them some support over there as well! Also make sure to subscribe to the show on your favorite streaming platform, as you guys know or demonetize on YouTube because it's hella lame, and the only place you're going to find us if we get canceled. And yeah, that's right, we're there! RUMBLE! What's up guys! -Rumble Rant! (RumbleRant) RATE, REVIEW, SHARE, SUBSCRIBE, and TELL A FRIENDS about our new show on all of the social media platforms so they can be a part of the RUMBER RANT! and the RUPTER RANCHORRANTSPODCAST! RATE AND SHARE THE PODCAST AND SUPPORT THE RATE THE EPISODE AND GIVE US REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE RISE OF THE RUMBLER RANT AND OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA AND OTHER MEETING AND LINKS IN OUR FACEBOOK GROUP AND OTHER LINKS THAT SUPPORT THE SHOW AND OTHER THAN THATS UP TO 5 STARS AND OTHER MAKING THEM IN OUR PODCARDIALS AND INSTAGRAM AND SOCIALS! SHARE WEBSET AND GIVES THEM A FRIEND THEM A LINKS TO OUR SOCIETY AND OTHER PLATTRACTORS IN OUR MAKING ME A VOTTERRORIST LINKS AND MORE AND MORE!!! AND MORE! AND YESTERDAY'S EPISODES ARE INCLUOR AND MORE ON SOCIAL GROUP!
00:03:34.000We're in this battle against cancellation.
00:03:36.000We're in this battle against misinformation, true misinformation, and fighting on the forefront of what it means to be a man.
00:03:45.000And can you be a man in this world and not be persecuted for it and not go to jail for it?
00:03:51.000Freedom of speech is at issue in my practice, and really the future of what it means to be a strong man in this country and around the world.
00:03:59.000And when you think about that, two people come to mind.
00:04:38.000After that, I was at the criminal defense clinic over there for a year with the Legal Aid Society, and then I went on to be a public defender.
00:04:44.000Prior to that, I was at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in Hell's Kitchen in Manhattan.
00:04:49.000I went to undergrad there and did my work there.
00:06:26.000So, obviously, the Tates have been, you know, the victims of what it looks like to me like a head job, right?
00:06:32.000Maybe I might be a little bit biased from being their friends and knowing them personally and then seeing these, you know, charges come out of nowhere and I'm like, this doesn't make sense.
00:06:38.000I've spent a good amount of time with these guys.
00:06:53.000There are a multitude of reasons for why they're being targeted.
00:06:57.000None more easier to ascertain than what they're saying, what their message is.
00:07:02.000When you have an entire corporate structure, an entire public partnership between the world governments and world banks and We're good to go.
00:07:32.000And then when you look at Andrew and Tristan and their ability to put out a message on Twitter, on Rumble, on TikTok, whatever it's going to be, and get 10 million men, 10 million young boys who may have not have changed their lives and get those guys to jump up and go to the gym and say,
00:07:52.000hey, I can be somebody and maybe I am being programmed and maybe I should question things and maybe it is okay to be a man.
00:08:25.000Yeah, and I think their influence is something that they really fear.
00:08:30.000You know, if you can get a bunch of men to, you know, you can galvanate them to become better versions of themselves, they're not going to tolerate disrespect and BS and a bunch of people that don't necessarily appreciate them.
00:08:39.000Even elections, you know, he says, hey man, I voted for this person, you can swear a whole election, so they're scared of that too.
00:10:15.000But I committed my life toward fighting for people who were over-persecuted or prosecuted by government, wrongfully accused, wrongfully convicted, so on and so forth.
00:10:25.000After January 6th happened at the Capitol, I started representing those people.
00:10:30.000I said, these are the people who are being targeted.
00:10:32.000I'm going to represent these people because I do not like the way that the government is going after them for their political beliefs.
00:12:02.000So I could tell by the way I interacted with them, by the way I shook their hands, that they were the same people 24-7, 365, and I respect that a lot.
00:12:26.000But There was nobody sort of stepping into the gap saying, hey, I'm willing to take on this case, stand up in front of the world and say, you can't do this.
00:12:35.000What's happening to them is wrong and to fight for them in a meaningful way.
00:12:41.000And it's not very often that a man has a chance to show up For two warriors, these are world champion kickboxers, warriors online, chess warriors, the whole nine.
00:12:50.000These are brilliant, brilliant guys who are unable to defend themselves in the court of law.
00:12:56.000They can defend themselves great in the court of public opinion, but they needed somebody in the court of law to jump in to help them, and I was happy and honored that I was able to do it.
00:13:38.000One of the things that when you come up from nothing, you take your people with you and you're very weary of outsiders.
00:13:44.000They run a tight ship and I appreciate that.
00:13:46.000Especially nowadays, you have to be careful.
00:13:50.000So, before we get into the general facts of the case and everything else like that, can you make...
00:13:59.000Because people tend to think like, oh yeah, they're being...
00:14:03.000Prosecuted here in Romania and but wait hold on how does he have a US lawyer wait I've seen this you know this other lawyer American lawyer that's in Romania like multiple yeah people are really confused as to what's going on what civil what's criminal what lawyers defending what what's going on can you kind of bring give some clarity to that yeah a hundred percent so because Andrew Tate is one of the famous most famous people in the world and Tristan Tate as well they have a Business interests and fans
00:14:33.000and things happening all over the world.
00:14:36.000As a consequence of that, they're being persecuted all over the world, right?
00:14:41.000So they have a criminal case in Romania where they've famously been accused of human trafficking.
00:14:46.000You have the public partnership between the UK governments and the BBC and the media out there that are going after them in the UK and in Western Europe.
00:14:59.000We have the fact that they are American citizens.
00:15:03.000They have interest in the United States of America.
00:15:05.000We have an open civil case here where we're suing his accusers for defaming them and tortious interference of their business relationships.
00:15:16.000So you have all these people, all these lawyers across the world, all these investigators across the world, helping us exonerate them in different forms and in different capacities.
00:15:31.000I'm the point of intersection for a lot of the legal teams and strategies and PR people that talk to each other.
00:15:37.000But it's a good thing when you have enough resources to be able to put together a world-class team to go to battle for you in what is no doubt a world-class fight.
00:15:49.000Because I can imagine, you being the face of this case, you get a lot of pressure too.
00:15:54.000Yeah, but I'm sort of, I'm used to it, you know, defending people, love them, I hate them, I want out them, but I have clients in Trump world who a lot of people, you know, can't stand for what some people love, some people hate.
00:16:10.000January 6th, we laid litigation, I started getting some of these guys out of jail.
00:19:39.000They certainly knew what they were doing.
00:19:42.000So, what's relevant about the American case is this.
00:19:45.000Is that Florida has very strong defamation laws.
00:19:49.000And if you publish a defamatory statement to the public, where you know it's going to hurt somebody's interest, it's going to hurt their reputation, it's going to defame them, it's going to slander them, it's going to cause them all types of problems.
00:20:02.000If you know it's false, and if you publish it, And it actually has an effect on somebody's life.
00:20:34.000Those people then took it and republished it to other people in their life, which ended up in having Andrew and Tristan arrested in Romania on these charges.
00:20:44.000It is illegal to defame somebody, and there is no greater impact that you can have on somebody's life than the deprivation of their freedom.
00:20:55.000This woman's false allegations against Andrew and Tristan In the United States, wound up having them incarcerated in Romania, which not only took away their freedom, it took away their ability to operate as businessmen,
00:21:11.000it took away their ability to be fathers to their children, brothers and friends to the people who depend on them, so on and so forth.
00:21:49.000The Romanian government interviewed a bunch of different people in the case, and two of the girls that they used as witnesses against Andrew and Tristan actually said, hey, Andrew and Tristan are great.
00:22:02.000They have subsequently went on to make videos.
00:23:13.000Of this person using sex as a means to lure men in, and then after she has sex with men, she revokes consent post-facto, and says, oh yeah, remember what we did last month?
00:24:31.000But just because you hate what somebody says, that does not rise to the level of criminality.
00:24:37.000And you shouldn't be deprived of your freedom or want to deprive somebody of their freedom simply because they have an opposing viewpoint on politics, religion, faith, gender, whatever it is.
00:24:55.000I have a query because I think people don't care because it's not them, but what if it's your brother, your father, your uncle that helps take care of your family and someone accuses him falsely, which is a whole lie, and then he gets us away.
00:25:10.000What are you going to do for your family?
00:25:36.000And it's unfortunate because if Andrew and Tristan had different politics, if Andrew and Tristan had different beliefs, they would be celebrated.
00:25:48.000We're talking about two mixed race, half white, half black gentlemen who grew up in a home where their mom and dad did not live together.
00:26:00.000They grew up in the projects, in the ghetto, in Luton, in England.
00:26:04.000They've clawed and scraped and fought for everything that they have accomplished.
00:26:09.000In terms of cultural competency, people like to...
00:26:17.000Let's take trap music or hip-hop music and you look at the lyrics, right?
00:26:21.000And you say, okay, we accept those lyrics because that's representative of a certain community, a certain demographic.
00:26:27.000Andrew and Tristan come from that community.
00:26:29.000Andrew and Tristan come from that demographic.
00:26:31.000But you're criminalizing the same thing that Andrew and Tristan are saying because of their politics and because of their message of male empowerment.
00:26:44.000Have a degree in rocket science to see that these are two men who had nothing, who became chess champions, kickboxing champions, and now sort of champions of social media influencing.
00:26:58.000That is a good thing that people should look to, and aspire to be, and aspire to beat, quite frankly.
00:27:03.000But we have a system that's trying to suppress them because of their message.
00:28:01.000Because Andrew and Tristan's fate is in their hands.
00:28:07.000I actually think right now that in terms of justice, the way that the Romanian justice system is trending is a bit more honorable than what's happening in, let's say, the D.C. courts in the United States.
00:29:17.000We can discuss it with great particularity.
00:29:20.000The reason why that hasn't happened is because there is this believe all women captain in soy boy army prosecutor who has a personal vendetta for one reason or another against Andrew and against Tristan.
00:29:36.000And he's a fairly influential prosecutor.
00:29:39.000He's got a pretty good career of putting people away before this.
00:29:43.000And he has targeted Andrew and Tristan and he won't let up.
00:29:49.000And what prosecutors do often, even in the Innocence Project related cases, a guy will be in jail for 20 or 30 years for a rape and a murder he did not commit.
00:29:59.000He'll be exonerated from DNA evidence.
00:30:02.000He will subsequently sue and get tens of millions of dollars for the decades of life that he lost.
00:30:07.000The prosecuting office will never even issue an apology.
00:30:34.000It is my hope that the Romanian justice system and the court sees this for what it is, looks at the file based on its merits and facts, and does not listen to this guy, because this guy shouldn't be listened to.
00:30:47.000He's targeting them, and people need to know about it.
00:30:52.000Let me ask you this, because we brought this up on the show multiple times before, defending Ed and Tristan, and we were there in Romania for a couple days.
00:30:58.000And there was evidence, and you could see even in the rooms, there's camera footage everywhere.
00:31:55.000So I think that's an important distinction for the people to know that this is not a U.S. court of law where the criminal case is being filed.
00:32:50.000Whereas, one of the good distinctions about Romania is what is treated far more serious than in the United States is if you falsely accuse him in court, and we can prove that you falsely accused him in court,
00:35:34.000They lie across different mediums, WhatsApp, text messages, conversations, videos, and there's no truth to what they're saying.
00:35:44.000So, what do we do with that information?
00:35:47.000We're trying to get the Romanian court to take notice of the fact that Emma's actually the wrongdoer and the Romanian system is also a victim of her scheme.
00:35:58.000Now, a lot of this sounds like, well, you know, okay, she lied in text messages, maybe it's not that serious, but when you look back at her history, She has a history in the United States, in particular in Florida, of falsely accusing men who she has had sex with.
00:36:17.000After she can't blackmail them, after she can't say, I'm going to report you, if they don't give in to her demands, she then actually reports them.
00:37:17.000And I think it's very important for the audience to know that what this girl does, guys, is she gets on dating sites, circus sites especially, where she targets rich, affluent guys.
00:37:29.000And she hooks up with them and then she'll disclose them after, oh, I was young, I was 17.
00:37:33.000Or she'll say, hey, if you don't give me this or that, I'm going to go ahead and go to the police and allege a crime against you of grape or whatever it may be, or sexual assault.
00:37:41.000And, you know, these guys look at it like, okay, I know I didn't do it.
00:37:46.000But, do I want the headache of dealing with this and potentially having my reputation ruined?
00:37:51.000Because we all know, on this side of the internet especially, if you're accused of a crime like this, whether you're innocent or guilty, your reputation is going to take a significant hit.
00:37:59.000You know, no one cares that you were exonerated and that she was lying.
00:38:02.000They care that you were accused in the first place and you're always going to carry that title.
00:38:36.000And while Bills pulls that up, can you give the guys real quick, because we've been jumping around a bit as far as her background and everything else like that.
00:38:44.000Can we cover the six days or what led up to the six days of what happened, just the general facts?
00:42:35.000Which Andrew and Tristan weren't even there when they filmed those TikToks and they said they were being held.
00:42:38.000And I think they went to the police like the next day after that party and made their accusations on or about April 22nd, if I'm not mistaken?
00:44:58.000Here, I can grab my glasses and read it.
00:45:00.000Finally, as E. Gabby becomes fully aware of the ramifications of her actions, she wants Martelli to retract the U.S. Embassy call and then proceeds to accuse Martelli of orchestrating the scheme.
00:46:27.000This is her Straight up admitting this is not what I said it was I should probably just this kills it in the water right here right here And these are her messages from her phone to her boyfriend because this is what probably went down and please correct me because you actually had access to the messages and you wrote this complaint and She tells her boyfriend,
00:46:44.000I'm in Romania, I'm being held against my will, to absolve herself of responsibility of cheating on her boyfriend.
00:46:51.000And then he's like, because if she had told him straight up, oh yeah, I bought business class tickets and I came out here to see Tristan and fuck him, that wouldn't sound so good, would it?
00:46:59.000So instead she's like, I'm being held here against my will, so that she gets him on her side.
00:47:07.000We need to call the embassy, blah, blah, blah.
00:47:08.000And then once she realizes that there's no turning back once you involve the U.S. Embassy and the government and the police are going to come, etc.
00:47:14.000She's like, no, no, no, please don't do that.
00:47:16.000And then once the police actually do get involved, she switches her story back up again.
00:48:03.000Yeah, if you see Martelli, it says, say I'm an American and I'm in danger.
00:48:07.000Martelli, apparently in love or infatuated by E-Gabby, then starts contacting government friends that eventually puts the United States Embassy in Bucharest on alert of Emma, Gabby's allegations that Gabby and Eliana Untilla We're being human trafficked by the Tate Brothers.
00:48:23.000Martelli does this despite the fact Gabby tries to talk Martelli out of calling the U.S. Embassy as demonstrated in the below.
00:48:29.000And then, bam, there's the messages right there.
00:48:31.000And if you look, underlined, don't panic any calls, please.
00:49:04.000And I want the audience to also understand, this kills it dead in the water, because you guys can remember, all of these charges, Pretty much stem from this.
00:52:10.000To read the complaint and to read the statement of facts.
00:52:14.000Anybody who reads the statement of facts, especially if you're a Tate detractor, if you hate Andrew and Tristan Tate, and if you think that they are guilty as hell, you should read this.
00:52:25.000You should think about the evidence that's clearly presented in the complaint and then ask yourself at the end of that process, can I really say with any reasonable degree of certainty, with a reasonable mind, that they are guilty?
00:52:40.000And when you look at the body count that she has and how many guys' lives that she's destroyed, you're going to see somebody who is beyond the pale in terms of...
00:52:55.000She is a sexual, serial predator who preys on men and who destroys their lives.
00:53:01.000If you go to page 20, at the top of page 20, There's a man who's in jail, and I'm not going to say his name because it's the subject of another Florida case,
00:53:19.000And Emma, before she was 18, had this scheme where she would go on these dating sites, say she was 22, she was 24, she had fake IDs, she would go to bars, go out on dates.
00:53:31.000You have no reason to suspect that she was underage.
00:53:55.000Not knowing of age is not a defense in the state of Florida, guys.
00:53:58.000So in other words, if a chick is underage and you hook up with her and you was like, I met her at a bar, I thought she was 21, she told me she was 21, and you have all this proof, it doesn't matter.
00:54:06.000That is not a legal defense to statutory rape.
00:55:59.000Okay, she goes, if you choose to blackmail me, I'd have no choice except to be honest with the world about what you've done to me, why, and you would have to suffer the repercussions of the truth among several men that are attributing to my problems of behavior of whom I also have evidence for...
00:56:15.000And then he goes, I hear your points and I'm not manipulating you to do anything.
00:56:18.000You could do something to prevent me if this were blackmail.
00:57:38.000Would a butt plug go off through a metal detector?
00:57:40.000For context, E. Gabby's asking M. Fisher if wearing her butt plug would set off the courthouse metal detector that she needed to go through in order to meet with district attorney who was prosecuted, jailed John based on E. Gabby's allegations.
00:57:52.000So this woman gets sexual satisfaction from wrongfully putting a man in jail with lies and she's asking her current lover if the butt plug in her anus is going to go off.
00:59:04.000And she issues like this long statement to him in a series of text messages where she admits the lying and she says, look, I'm going to clear this up.
00:59:11.000So if you just go to 20, to page 20 right there, and where it says M. Fisher, he's talking about these are all the false things that you said about me in court.
00:59:20.000Hey guys, just so you know, we're going to read the chats, and we're going to read the rants after this.
00:59:24.000We just want to make sure we get it all out there, so if we answer one of your questions throughout the course, it'll be answered, and then, you know, obviously we'll open it up for Q&A at the end.
00:59:41.000But write down until the quotes are done into the next page.
00:59:45.000Okay, I will, here, let me throw, I can read it.
00:59:47.000So this is Fisher saying, you falsely accused me, and you constructed and masterminded a completely false narrative under me.
00:59:55.000This is a year before she accuses Andrew and Tristan.
00:59:59.000So see what this guy says and how she responds.
01:00:02.000So he goes, the things I remember being on it were that I, was a heavy user of illicit drugs, would beat you when you tried to leave, restrain you from leaving, or calling the cops, often left you on the side of the highway if you said anything to upset me.
01:00:15.000And that I had been stalking you and showing up places that I knew you would be after you anything.
01:00:20.000So he's reading her complaint that she had given to the police, which wasn't true.
01:00:42.000Fisher responds, and she goes, the things I were definitely rewarded...
01:00:46.000I think she meant it right here, but I'll read it verbatim.
01:00:49.000The things I were definitely rewarded and exaggerated.
01:00:52.000They asked me of events, and then they reworded my words in the official injunction document.
01:00:57.000I was brought in to speak to two lawyers, the legal aide who had just finished law school that was defending me and her colleague who was training her.
01:01:06.000Then she goes, I'm incredibly sorry that what I said encapsulated a completely false narrative, especially that paints you as a terrible person because you aren't.
01:01:16.000You never deserved to be treated that way.
01:02:00.000There's another point in this complaint, I mean, where she talks about she's a pathological liar, she puts this big confession out into the world, says, I have a history of lying, I need to lie, I'm a compulsive liar.
01:02:11.000I mean, if anybody who reads this complaint will see that this woman is totally, totally troubled, Andrew and Tristan are totally innocent, and there's a trail of bodies, including a guy who killed himself, pursuant to their interactions with this woman.
01:04:24.000What does Joe think of recent sentencing of Proud Boys leader to 15 to 20 years since I know he represented a lot of J6 defenders?
01:04:31.000I think it's an egregious miscarriage of justice.
01:04:34.000I mean, these guys, irrespective of their political beliefs, went to a protest that got out of hand.
01:04:39.000And January 6th did not happen in a vacuum.
01:04:42.000There was a stream of protests related to George Floyd and other unfortunate deaths in this country of minority persons that led to protests.
01:04:48.000All over the place, some of them got violent.
01:04:50.000Most of those people got a slap on the wrist.
01:04:52.000So the expectation was if you went to the Capitol and got into it and things popped off that day, you'd get a slap on the wrist and go home.
01:04:58.000No one could have ever conceived that somebody would get 20 years in jail for doing the same thing that somebody in Minneapolis did.
01:05:15.000It's politicizing the criminal justice system to suppress political dissidents.
01:05:20.000It is the idea that if you do not subscribe to the party narrative, the communist party narrative that's in power, we will crush you with the power of the United States government.
01:05:30.000We'll fall in line and do what you're told and dress how you're supposed to dress and call people their pronouns.
01:05:36.000Otherwise, we're going to lock you up and we're going to throw away the key.
01:05:38.000Yeah, that's what we're going towards, man.
01:05:40.000Alex Jones' guy, also, I think you recently got arrested.
01:06:21.000When your intentions of exiting your house that day are grounded in the First Amendment, you're supposed to get a pass.
01:06:26.000We understand you went out for political reasons.
01:06:29.000You didn't go out for criminal reasons.
01:06:30.000Something may have happened, but we generally incorporate the Constitution and the First Amendment into the analysis when it comes to criminality.
01:08:58.000Oh, he goes, Andrew says his case has nothing to do with his webcam business, but a lot of YouTubers are using this to call him a liar because there's an indictment on Reddit that says his case is connected to his past webcam business.
01:09:13.000That's a great question and I appreciate you bringing up that point.
01:09:19.000It's very, very important to understand that we're talking about a two-year time frame here with regard to the current case.
01:09:27.000Things that Andrew Tate said or did or participated in three years ago, four years ago, ten years ago are not relevant.
01:09:35.000What his enemies are doing is they're regurgitating stuff that he said when he was a little bit more street and And had a bunch of, had far less followers 10, 15 years ago, or even five years ago, right?
01:09:49.000He's a changed person, he's a changed man, he's metamorphosized and transitioned and blossomed into a strong, God-fearing, pro-men, pro-health, pro-business man, Since that time.
01:10:02.000Was he involved in the webcam business for a time?
01:10:19.000Why are people incorporating these things into the public narrative?
01:10:22.000Because the case is weak, as we've just saw, and because they know that the process is a punishment.
01:10:28.000If they could slander him and if they could put these things into the public consciousness and aggravate people and fan the flames on people based on what he said a long time ago, maybe they'll not examine the evidence in front of them now and they'll just say, oh, Andrew Tate's a bad guy because he said this in 1986.
01:10:48.000It has no relevance whatsoever with what's going on now.
01:10:51.000So, and for all the detractors out there, so to be clear, The criminal case against him in Romania is based on the events that went down in 2022.
01:11:04.000Well, 2023 they were in jail for a lot of it, but for 2022 basically.
01:11:10.000Emma Gabby and Aliona, these girls are the main accusers.
01:11:13.000That is what this case, the criminal case in Romania is based upon.
01:11:25.000And it's worthy to note that you have big, gigantic record labels out there who promote this kind of talk with their rappers and their conduct and their artists.
01:11:34.000And they make billions of dollars off of it.
01:11:37.000But because he says it, it's somehow criminal.
01:11:51.000She's the person upon which all things turn.
01:11:55.000Also, people forget satire and just jokes as well.
01:11:58.000They take it so serious because they want to push the agenda towards the case.
01:12:01.000Yeah, because some people are trying to allege that the Romanian charges are based on not just Emma and Aliona, but on other women prior, before, and that this has been going on for years.
01:12:44.000They took a woman who was probably close to 30 years old and they sat her on a bed with friggin' dolls to make her look like she's 12.
01:12:50.000She's not 12, but they did this to convey to the public that these women are somehow helpless victims and Andrew and Tristan are somehow like these monsters when nothing could be further from the truth.
01:13:02.000People forget these guys are trying to be entertainers first.
01:13:04.000They're not necessarily trying to report the news.
01:13:49.000In the American Court of Law in Florida, it's a first step in the civil process in terms of articulating to the world the falsity.
01:13:58.000Most people have had no idea what was going on.
01:14:01.000These allegations are so strong that we have a team of lawyers in six months of investigation and months of investigation before that witnesses affidavit statements.
01:14:12.000We've made a federal case out of this.
01:14:15.000And it's in court right now, and she's being sued.
01:14:19.000Does her conduct arise to the level of criminality?
01:16:30.000You know, one of the things that we're trying to do is we're overwhelming all the systems with truth.
01:16:37.000We are not running from the facts here.
01:16:39.000We're pumping the truth out for digestion.
01:16:41.000We're making it so palatable and so overwhelming that the only reasonable conclusion has to be that these guys walk and she gets prosecuted.
01:16:49.000I think if they see the truth, the Romanian government will say, you know what?
01:16:59.000So, in the United States, right, we, you know, just for the audience, you guys know, when you have a witness, they typically have to come back and testify at a trial, right?
01:17:06.000Unless they do a deposition, which I doubt they did that here, tape deposition.
01:17:10.000In the Romanian case, would she have to go back to Romania and testify in trial?
01:17:53.000I don't see how she gets on and endures this.
01:17:57.000At some point, she's going to have to cop out to the truth.
01:17:59.000What they're trying to do is they're trying to make her look like the victim, and I am back and forth with their legal team all the time saying, you need to stop...
01:18:07.000Framing this like your client is somehow the victim.
01:18:09.000It says defend it next to her name in this case.
01:18:58.000That'll have to be a decision that the relevant police law enforcement agencies and prosecutorial agencies make, but if it's a felony, it'll be up to a year.
01:19:09.000If it's If it's a felony plus whatever, it could be, you know, it all depends on what she goes down on.
01:19:14.000But first, there's no criminal case against her right now.
01:21:43.000Just tell the truth and the whole thing just stops.
01:21:50.000We're the ones having to clear their names.
01:21:54.000We're the ones having to sue for damages for them because of what's happened to their lives.
01:22:00.000The deprivation of your freedom is serious.
01:22:04.000And house arrest is And the inability to fly and to drive and do all the things and generate, they are out on hundreds of millions of dollars.
01:22:50.000They want to say that Andrew and Tristan are the bad guys, that her client is one of other victims, and it couldn't be further from the truth.
01:23:04.000There's no way under God's green earth that they're going to go down on these cases if they get a fair shake.
01:23:11.000And they deserve to have their names cleared.
01:23:14.000These are good men, smart businessmen, resourceful people who come from nothing, who became something, and they're being targeted for reasons that have nothing to do with who they are and what they've done.
01:23:28.000It's about what they say and what they believe in.
01:23:41.000Just want to let you know so Tate's name can be cleared up.
01:23:45.000Yeah, I did hear about this, that there's different versions of the Romanian indictment.
01:23:52.000One that alleges that the case has more extensive than just the past year or two, that they have a multitude and years of evidence and stuff like that.
01:24:11.000It's the past couple years of conduct and look, what I put it past this you know this believe all woman prosecutor and I don't say that in the mean to be offensive.
01:24:27.000I say that in the mean to people should understand there are good people and bad people.
01:24:30.000Good men and bad men and a good woman and a bad woman.
01:25:21.000You know, I try not to out previous clients.
01:25:25.000Obviously, there's attorney-client stuff, but there's some public knowledge stuff as well.
01:25:29.000But this one has to be just due to the scope, the international attention, and just the sheer utter bullcrap of the allegations that just...
01:25:41.000These guys are being held in jail for nothing.
01:25:43.000If you care about freedom, if you care about justice in any way, shape or form, you should be outraged by this.
01:26:11.000Yeah, I mean, that pretty much answers most of my questions, man.
01:26:17.000Because, you know, there's obviously the naysayers that are saying, like, no, he said a bunch of other stuff, and there's other witnesses out there, but the Romania case, it seems, is exclusively based upon...
01:30:11.000Think about Andrew and Tristan Tate's legal team like a football team that's getting ready to go to the Super Bowl.
01:30:18.000You make trades, you pick up free agents at the trade deadline, you do what you gotta do to solidify your team to guarantee the win at the end of the day, and that's what they've done.
01:30:46.000We have to wait and see what happens with the UK. What's happening with the BBC is troubling.
01:30:53.000They are knowingly publishing false inflammation, defamatory statements to the public in an effort to poison the stream of consciousness when it comes to Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate in order to get possibly a conviction or cancellation or whatever it is in the United Kingdom.
01:31:09.000People who support Andrew and Tristan in those countries should speak up and take whatever legal action they can on their behalf because it's wrong and it's disgusting and I think there'll eventually be a lawsuit against the BBC and their DNG reporter for the false accusations that they've put into the very public sphere about Andrew and Tristan.
01:32:03.000Thank you so much for coming on the show and clearing up a bunch of things that people had questions on.
01:32:08.000Sure, thank you guys both for having me.
01:32:10.000The case of Andrew and Tristan Tate is not just about them.
01:32:14.000They're sort of the gatekeepers for many men who feel under attack.
01:32:20.000If Andrew and Tristan somehow if their situation does not work out the right way Their attackers and the people who are trying to cancel them and incarcerate them will come for everybody else who's behind them.
01:32:32.000That's you, and that's me, and that's everybody else who sees the world the way that we do.
01:32:38.000We may not agree on everything, but what we do agree on is that men have a right to self-determine, men have a right to be powerful, men have a right to participate in a free marketplace of ideas, speak their mind without going to jail for it.
01:32:54.000And I would encourage everybody, especially Tate Detractors, to read the complaint with an open mind and let me know what you think once you get to the end of that complaint.