Fresh & Fit - July 29, 2026


Tate's Lawyer Joe McBride Gives UPDATES On The Tates' Case!


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00:06:54.000 And we are live.
00:06:55.000 What's up, guys?
00:06:55.000 Welcome to the First Year Podcast, man.
00:06:56.000 We haven't done one of these in a minute, but we got Joe in the house, man.
00:06:58.000 We're doing a one on one interview.
00:07:00.000 Obviously, it's a very important situation.
00:07:02.000 We're going to get right into it, right?
00:07:03.000 We can call this an emergency meeting.
00:07:04.000 Yeah, there you go.
00:07:06.000 Joe, welcome to the show, man.
00:07:07.000 For those that might not know who you are, can you introduce yourself to the people?
00:07:10.000 It's good to be back, guys.
00:07:11.000 Appreciate you having me here.
00:07:13.000 Joe McBride, been representing Andrew and Tristan globally across the world.
00:07:17.000 Of course, here in Florida since 2023.
00:07:20.000 We're litigating various matters for them in the States here and in LA.
00:07:24.000 And then, of course, We got Team UK, Team Dubai, Team Romania all working in conjunction with each other.
00:07:30.000 We're winning.
00:07:31.000 We haven't lost anywhere.
00:07:32.000 You know, anywhere they're accused of something, we win.
00:07:35.000 And anywhere we advance the ball as plaintiffs where we're suing wrongful accusers on their behalf, we're doing pretty well.
00:07:42.000 So happy to be here and happy to get into it.
00:07:45.000 So let's pretend someone has no idea what's going on.
00:07:48.000 All they know is they open up the news and it says Tate Brothers arrested and awaiting extradition proceedings.
00:07:54.000 What's going on exactly for the person that might have no idea what's going on?
00:07:58.000 So, what's going on is we're getting ready to go to trial on a defamation case in Palm Beach.
00:08:04.000 That case, we've been litigating it since July of 2023.
00:08:09.000 We've gotten through motions to dismiss.
00:08:11.000 We've had depositions.
00:08:12.000 Andrew and Tristan did their depositions.
00:08:14.000 The wrongful accuser who was suing did her deposition.
00:08:17.000 We have other ones scheduled and we have a trial schedule.
00:08:20.000 So, we're getting ready to go to trial.
00:08:22.000 That sort of situation was the genesis of how all the trafficking allegations began.
00:08:28.000 If we win that case, All of the allegations against Andrew and Tristan fall away.
00:08:33.000 The original narrative that said that they were traffickers, that said that they were this or that, it blows up.
00:08:38.000 And if that blows up, everything else unravels.
00:08:41.000 So the United Kingdom is working very hard with people here in the United States.
00:08:46.000 You know, they got the brothers got allies and they got people who hate them in government.
00:08:50.000 They're working with the Tate ops in government to politically kidnap them, get them to the United Kingdom so they could stick them in an English cell and make sure they never have their day in court here.
00:09:02.000 Because they're afraid about what's going to happen.
00:09:04.000 What's important to know is that there's been a TACA warrant, which is an extradition warrant from Europe, and that warrant's been live for a couple of years. 0.51
00:09:16.000 The English brought that warrant to the Romanians a couple of years ago, and the Romanians said, okay, this is legit.
00:09:23.000 But there was a court order and an agreement between Romania and the United Kingdom, which went something like this So long as the Romanian proceedings are ongoing, England will agree not to extradite.
00:09:36.000 Which is fair.
00:09:37.000 It gives the brothers a fair shot at the day in court in Romania.
00:09:40.000 Now, Andrew agreed and Tristan agreed.
00:09:43.000 They said, hey, listen, we want to lean into the Romanian court process.
00:09:47.000 If we go to jail, then you can come and pick us up after we serve our Romanian sentence.
00:09:53.000 If we win and walk out, then you got 30 days to come get us. 0.99
00:09:57.000 They agreed to that.
00:09:59.000 So we've gone all over the world.
00:10:01.000 I've been all over the world with them every once in a while.
00:10:03.000 Like we went to Turkey last year and the warrant tripped.
00:10:07.000 So, Andrew and I actually went to Turkish jail, airport jail for a day.
00:10:10.000 They took him, I said, Look, I'm not going to let you go alone.
00:10:13.000 I'll go with you.
00:10:13.000 So, I did a day in Turkish jail with Andrew, and it wasn't that bad, right?
00:10:18.000 So, the Turks took a look at it.
00:10:20.000 They said, Look, we understand the situation.
00:10:22.000 We understand the agreement.
00:10:23.000 They let him out.
00:10:24.000 And any other country he's been through, whether it's in Asia, whether it's in Europe, whether it's here or there, sometimes that happens.
00:10:30.000 They take a look at the paperwork and they let him through.
00:10:33.000 The world understands that there's an agreement in place in Turkey.
00:10:37.000 Competent justice systems respect other governments.
00:10:41.000 Right here, what we have is a materially disrespectful move by the United Kingdom to thwart their day in court and also take a big slap in the face of the Romanian government.
00:10:52.000 They're saying to the Romanians, you know what?
00:10:53.000 We don't respect you, Romania.
00:10:54.000 You're Romania. 1.00
00:10:55.000 You ain't shit. 1.00
00:10:56.000 We're just going to pull the ball out of your court. 1.00
00:10:58.000 We're going to make sure they don't get their day in court in the United States.
00:11:02.000 And we're going to stick them in an English cell to make sure that they never see the light of day and that the allegations against them stick because they won't have a chance to prove them in Palm Beach.
00:11:13.000 So, would it be fair to say?
00:11:14.000 Because I think, because a lot of people don't understand the Palm Beach case, this is the woman that made the accusations that originally got them raided in April of 22.
00:11:25.000 That is correct.
00:11:25.000 Right.
00:11:26.000 So, this is the foundation of the House of Cards.
00:11:28.000 This woman whose civil case that you guys are going to go to trial on.
00:11:32.000 So, would it be fair to say that if you guys win that civil case, the House of Cards comes down, the British case gets weaker, they can't afford for that to happen?
00:11:42.000 That's exactly right.
00:11:43.000 The British case gets weaker, the Romanian case gets weaker, all the allegations against them get weaker because there was a woman from Florida, went to Romania, was there six days, accused them of trafficking.
00:11:55.000 That's what they were originally held on.
00:11:57.000 We said this is defamatory.
00:11:59.000 We sued her.
00:12:00.000 We're going to prove we're doing a good job in that case.
00:12:02.000 And if we win that case and it's looking pretty good, House of Cards collapses.
00:12:06.000 Gotcha.
00:12:07.000 And this is Girl A, right?
00:12:08.000 Girl A in the story.
00:12:09.000 Girl A from Florida.
00:12:10.000 When Andrew did the interview with Jack Neal?
00:12:12.000 With Jack Neal.
00:12:12.000 Yeah.
00:12:13.000 Yeah.
00:12:13.000 Okay.
00:12:14.000 Yeah.
00:12:14.000 And we know, I won't say her name.
00:12:16.000 Don't say her name.
00:12:17.000 Yeah, I won't say her name, but you guys who watch me, you guys know who she is.
00:12:20.000 I've talked about her before.
00:12:22.000 It's crazy because this is a girl that made the accusations that they were dancing on TikTok at the house back in April of 22 when the raid originally happened.
00:12:30.000 And that's when all of this began.
00:12:32.000 And now finally she's getting sued.
00:12:35.000 And that is what I guess is prompted.
00:12:37.000 Or they're going to go to trial.
00:12:39.000 When are you going to go to trial with her?
00:12:40.000 December, right?
00:12:41.000 We have an initial schedule.
00:12:43.000 We're anticipated to go realistically in the middle, in the beginning of the year.
00:12:47.000 So right at 12 27.
00:12:48.000 Yeah, which is not far away.
00:12:50.000 Yeah, no, it's not.
00:12:51.000 So, but that's going to get delayed now because they put him in jail.
00:12:54.000 And this is a move to taint the jury pool.
00:12:57.000 Look, when they arrived last year, they came to Florida because they thought Florida was safe.
00:13:01.000 It's the hometown of Trump.
00:13:02.000 And they arrive, and Governor DeSantis gets up there.
00:13:05.000 Says, we don't know why you're here.
00:13:06.000 Oh, yeah.
00:13:06.000 Speaks about them.
00:13:07.000 You're not welcome.
00:13:08.000 You're not welcome.
00:13:09.000 You're not welcome. 1.00
00:13:09.000 Your skin's the wrong color. 1.00
00:13:10.000 Your religion's the wrong color. 0.95
00:13:12.000 Your politics are wrong. 1.00
00:13:13.000 You're not welcome here.
00:13:14.000 And my attorney general and I are going to look into whatever measures are available to put our hooks in you and to jam you up.
00:13:22.000 So the statewide prosecutor's office in Florida intervened or attempted to intervene into our civil case to delay it.
00:13:30.000 They wanted to sort of become a party to the case, a watchdog, if you will.
00:13:33.000 We said, look, we're not going to agree to that, but what we'll do is we'll delay the case.
00:13:37.000 And we'll give you the file.
00:13:39.000 Look at the file, look for indicia of criminality and get back to us.
00:13:43.000 They asked for an extension, then they got back to us and they said, you know what?
00:13:46.000 No criminal case here.
00:13:48.000 We knew that he was innocent and that Andrew and Tristan are innocent the entire time.
00:13:52.000 So Andrew was out in the street just dogging DeSantis everywhere he went.
00:13:55.000 Vegas, LA.
00:13:57.000 Here I am, Ron.
00:13:58.000 Come get me, Ron. 1.00
00:14:00.000 Kiss my ass, Ron. 1.00
00:14:01.000 I'm an American, Ron. 1.00
00:14:01.000 You don't like it? 1.00
00:14:03.000 Run me through the system, Ron, because that's how innocent men behave.
00:14:06.000 And Ron DeSantis and James Uthmeyer, Um, you know, have these Napoleon complexes, they're corrupt people, and uh, they eventually got their pound of flesh this time.
00:14:17.000 And it's unfortunate, but my hope is that truth will have it stay in court.
00:14:23.000 So, we were in the courtroom, and uh, just to be fair here, the judge was pretty unbiased and fair.
00:14:30.000 And your um team asked for documents just to explain why they're in jail currently, right?
00:14:37.000 Uh, from the UK.
00:14:38.000 Right.
00:14:39.000 They had nothing.
00:14:40.000 Right.
00:14:40.000 How can they hold them in jail with no hardcore evidence?
00:14:44.000 Is it just extradition paper?
00:14:45.000 They can hold them on or don't have any evidence?
00:14:47.000 So it's a good question.
00:14:50.000 It's a technical one.
00:14:51.000 We have a treaty, extradition treaty with the United Kingdom, and certain allegations qualify people for extradition, right?
00:14:58.000 So there are different tests.
00:15:02.000 Is the treaty valid?
00:15:04.000 Do the crimes qualify?
00:15:05.000 The answers are yes, these are heinous crimes.
00:15:07.000 And then you get to this probable cause prong.
00:15:10.000 And what we're going to do is we're going to compare our system to their system and say, hey, listen, in order for somebody to be indicted here, in order for them to find this probable cause, your accusers, Your alleged victims,
00:15:23.000 they have to identify themselves and name sort of the places and times where these allegations happen.
00:15:30.000 The United Kingdom is saying, We don't need to give that to you.
00:15:32.000 We don't want to give that to you.
00:15:33.000 We're probably not going to give that to you.
00:15:35.000 There's an argument from the government where they're going to say, You're not entitled to it.
00:15:38.000 The allegations are good enough.
00:15:40.000 We're going to say, Of course, we're entitled to it.
00:15:41.000 They're American citizens.
00:15:43.000 So they're trying to deny giving you guys the actual, I guess, evidence in their investigation to prop up their charges.
00:15:50.000 That's what it looks like.
00:15:51.000 I need to be really, really careful about what I say because there's local rules.
00:15:55.000 Yeah.
00:15:55.000 There's bar rules, there's federal rules.
00:15:58.000 We're in front of a judge here who I've only recently appeared in front of twice.
00:16:04.000 And this is her playing field.
00:16:06.000 And I don't want to piss her off and hurt the bros, right?
00:16:11.000 So it appears that they have 60 days to turn over their papers.
00:16:17.000 If they don't turn over their papers after the 60th day, then we have a very strong case for them to walk.
00:16:22.000 I don't think that they're going to turn their papers over.
00:16:24.000 And if they do, it probably won't be to the 59th day in order to keep the brothers in jail.
00:16:28.000 Because right now, the U.S. government is arguing that they should be detained, and absolutely they should not be detained.
00:16:34.000 And we can get into what the mechanics of that looks like.
00:16:36.000 But again, the process is the punishment.
00:16:39.000 In the United States of America, you have due process rights.
00:16:41.000 You can't be deprived of your liberty unless you go through the process.
00:16:45.000 And they haven't gone through any process yet.
00:16:47.000 They're using this sort of cutout in the law, extradition law, to lock them up because they know that they can do it.
00:16:54.000 So their enemies have wielded the power of extradition proceedings masterfully here to hurt them.
00:16:59.000 And we're trying to protect them.
00:17:01.000 And the first thing that we're going to do on the 13th is see if we can get them out and see if they can be in house arrest or have freedom to move around Miami during the pendency of the extradition proceedings.
00:17:11.000 Because if they don't come up with the paperwork, then they will have done 60 days in jail for no reason.
00:17:15.000 So let's talk about this paperwork.
00:17:18.000 And I know you might not be able to go into full detail, so I'll just ask it broadly and you can answer however you feel.
00:17:23.000 The threshold of the paperwork are we talking probable cost from a U.S. standard?
00:17:26.000 I mean, this is a foreign court.
00:17:28.000 I know they also go off of common like we do.
00:17:31.000 Similar legal justice systems.
00:17:33.000 But, like, how much do they have to disclose?
00:17:36.000 Do they have to disclose just enough for probable cause?
00:17:37.000 Or do they have to disclose significantly more, significantly less?
00:17:40.000 Because I know from what I understand right now, all they turned over was a request for extradition and for them to be held, nothing else.
00:17:47.000 Right.
00:17:48.000 So there's a prosecutor who works for the Crown Prosecuting Service over there, CJ.
00:17:53.000 And Chad, that's their equivalent of like the Department of Justice in England.
00:17:56.000 And that person has an axe to grind with the brothers.
00:17:59.000 They've been after the brothers for a long time.
00:18:01.000 It's important to understand that there's a series and a history of allegations.
00:18:06.000 In the United Kingdom.
00:18:08.000 There were some in 2009, and these women accused the brothers of doing X, Y, and Z.
00:18:13.000 It was Andrew at the time.
00:18:14.000 When you accuse somebody of SA allegations in the UK, they take the phone from the women. 0.74
00:18:19.000 So they went into the phone.
00:18:20.000 They took his, too.
00:18:21.000 Right.
00:18:21.000 And there was nothing in his phone.
00:18:23.000 And in the women's phone at that time, there was objectively what would appear to be a plot to extort the brothers. 0.57
00:18:30.000 Oh, really? 0.82
00:18:31.000 Yeah.
00:18:31.000 So they tossed it.
00:18:32.000 They let it go.
00:18:33.000 So we don't know based on the new case.
00:18:37.000 Who is accusing them of what?
00:18:39.000 We haven't been told.
00:18:40.000 We just know that the prosecutor, the secretary of the foreign office who hates them and who hates Trump, and the new prime minister and the one who just went out all hate the bros and want them.
00:18:49.000 So, they're going to do their best to say this.
00:18:52.000 Under the United Kingdom, the UK standard, this is what we're prepared to give.
00:18:57.000 And we're going to say, well, that's nice, but in America, we require more.
00:19:01.000 More is required for a probable cause showing.
00:19:04.000 And if you don't show, if you don't put up or shut up, then we're going to ask for them to be released.
00:19:09.000 That's about as much as I can get into it.
00:19:11.000 Okay.
00:19:12.000 Because if I start talking about allegations and victims, I can run afoul of the rules, and I don't want to do that.
00:19:17.000 But it'd be fair to say we're going to request at least a probable cause standard from them.
00:19:20.000 Yes.
00:19:20.000 Yes, for sure.
00:19:21.000 Okay.
00:19:22.000 Is their threshold lower than ours over there?
00:19:24.000 At this point, yes, it appears to be so.
00:19:26.000 Okay.
00:19:26.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:19:28.000 Let's talk about it because you mentioned the government hating him and everything.
00:19:32.000 With the creation of the Bruff Party and talking about potentially running for prime minister, was that also something that agitated the situation, I would imagine?
00:19:40.000 Of course.
00:19:40.000 Yeah.
00:19:41.000 And the United States government.
00:19:42.000 No one ever talks about that for some reason when I say they're being politically prosecuted.
00:19:45.000 What are you talking about?
00:19:46.000 I was like, he created a party.
00:19:48.000 Yeah.
00:19:49.000 A legitimate party with lots of followers.
00:19:52.000 And by the way, he also has a school.
00:19:54.000 With over 150,000 members, and that's what they're really after them about.
00:19:59.000 They hate that school.
00:20:00.000 They fear that school.
00:20:02.000 Shaping and smoothing the, you know, owninguniversity.com, shaping and smoothing the minds of men all over the world, and certainly a significant population of men in the United Kingdom is enough to tip an election there and to tip one here as well.
00:20:15.000 So they want that school.
00:20:16.000 They want to crush it.
00:20:17.000 They want to take it from them.
00:20:19.000 And that's definitely part of the analysis here.
00:20:22.000 That's the motive, in addition to the money that they've spent on them to get them and to shut them up.
00:20:28.000 So, the school and the political party are.
00:20:32.000 So, yeah, to your point about the political party, right?
00:20:35.000 We have a duty here, a constitutional duty to protect political candidates.
00:20:39.000 We don't jail our political candidates.
00:20:41.000 And if our political candidates happen to be in a position where they can run in other countries, well, that's a good thing for America.
00:20:48.000 And if they're American citizens, we protect them.
00:20:51.000 Now, if these guys were running for office in North Korea and North Korea was like, we want to extradite them, the United States would say, yeah, good luck with that.
00:20:58.000 We're not going to do that.
00:21:00.000 The question then becomes.
00:21:02.000 Is the United Kingdom still a place where we want to extradite political candidates?
00:21:06.000 Do we want to extradite our citizens there?
00:21:09.000 And is this really about free speech?
00:21:11.000 Our argument, of course, is that this is about free speech and they're using all these heinous allegations as a cover to get them for what they're really saying.
00:21:20.000 And the US government should protect men and women who are free speech activists and who are political candidates for this reason.
00:21:29.000 This is part of what we do as Americans and they're duty bound.
00:21:33.000 To help them here.
00:21:33.000 And I certainly hope if it gets to that, that they will.
00:21:36.000 Now, forgive me if I'm wrong here, but let's say this ever did happen and went through.
00:21:41.000 Wouldn't that be a precedent to also get other Americans as well to be extradited to the UK?
00:21:45.000 For example, this would be like a case study where, you know what, this has been done before, it can happen again.
00:21:50.000 Yeah, they'll set a precedent.
00:21:51.000 So it's a great question.
00:21:53.000 Let's analyze the situation.
00:21:56.000 Andrew and Tristan go, and we know it's for free speech.
00:21:59.000 Who's next on the list?
00:22:00.000 Elon Musk, for sure.
00:22:02.000 Oh, yeah.
00:22:02.000 Right.
00:22:03.000 For sure.
00:22:03.000 They don't like him.
00:22:05.000 They're after him.
00:22:06.000 Elon is a free speech activist.
00:22:08.000 He also wants to colonize Mars, and he's got Starlink, and he's got more money than anybody in the world.
00:22:14.000 So they would come after him next.
00:22:17.000 And then whoever it will be after that, it'll be somebody else.
00:22:21.000 If we open up the floodgates here and we make it okay for American citizens to get taken to an English gulag for free speech, for exercising free speech and criticizing governments anywhere, then we open up the floodgates for this to happen to anyone.
00:22:34.000 Wow.
00:22:36.000 Geez.
00:22:36.000 Now, the other thing also that's kind of alarming with this was, you know, I saw a video Andrew had made where he said, look, I'd be willing to go to the UK and obviously I'll go and, you know, see what's going on.
00:22:48.000 But like, they were like, oh, well, we can jail you though up until trial, which is insane.
00:22:54.000 Where, you know, you can be cooperative with that, but you guys can't, you know, guarantee any type of ability to like fight the trial from outside of jail.
00:23:03.000 And, um, And it's crazy because it's like normally they would want, you know, when they say, oh, well, we can't let you out because you're a risk or whatever.
00:23:09.000 Well, how would he, because he doesn't live in the UK.
00:23:11.000 So, how would he be a risk to anyone in the UK?
00:23:13.000 Just go back to Romania or whatever.
00:23:14.000 Why is the UK being so, I guess, not cooperative with their case and like wanting to work with you guys?
00:23:21.000 Because it's political.
00:23:22.000 They want them in jail.
00:23:23.000 They want them in a jumpsuit.
00:23:25.000 They want them starved, deprived.
00:23:26.000 When you put somebody in solitary confinement for long periods of time, they begin to break down.
00:23:31.000 And men who go in just within a matter of weeks, you talk to them.
00:23:35.000 And they're not even the same human beings.
00:23:37.000 Imagine being there, kept there for two years, and then it's like now go to trial and fight this very untrial and a justice system that's, you know, where the fix is in.
00:23:45.000 So it's about breaking them down.
00:23:47.000 It's about humiliating them in front of the world, treating them like Osama bin Laden, and making sure that the whole world sees that if you stand up, if you speak out, if you're pro man, you're anti socialism, you're pro traditional values,
00:24:02.000 and if you don't bow when we tell you to bow and kneel when we tell you to kneel, This is what we'll do. 0.62
00:24:08.000 We'll have you drawn and quartered and your head put on London Bridge like they did to Braveheart and William Wallace. 0.87
00:24:14.000 It's the same old country. 1.00
00:24:15.000 It's the same old shit. 1.00
00:24:16.000 And they haven't changed because they can't help themselves. 1.00
00:24:18.000 That's what the English do. 1.00
00:24:21.000 Wow. 0.99
00:24:21.000 No. 0.99
00:24:22.000 Go ahead.
00:24:24.000 Yeah, no.
00:24:28.000 In your years of obviously helping the Tates, there's always been winning these battles, of course, with different countries.
00:24:36.000 Why is the U.S. taking this so serious?
00:24:38.000 As in, like, I guess, why is it more like, you know what, you can be free while we're investigating this case?
00:24:45.000 Why are they locked up, you think?
00:24:47.000 Sure.
00:24:47.000 So they know that if they pull the trigger on the extradition treaty, that they lock them up right away.
00:24:56.000 The presumption when you're trying to extradite somebody is against bail.
00:25:00.000 Normally, if you're caught up in the federal system, bail is the presumption.
00:25:04.000 Deprivation of your liberty is not the norm.
00:25:07.000 But because extradition, The big thing is you're a flight risk, right?
00:25:11.000 If we don't lock you up, you're going to leave.
00:25:13.000 You're going to fly.
00:25:14.000 But here's the good thing.
00:25:15.000 Here's the great thing.
00:25:16.000 Here's the problem for the government now, for the United Kingdom government and for the United States government as well.
00:25:22.000 Flight risk analysis is normally speculative.
00:25:26.000 You have to project into the future and say, are these guys going to run?
00:25:29.000 What we have here is they've been out on release in Romania for three years.
00:25:33.000 And no matter what of the four corners of the earth that they're in, whether they're in Singapore, Antarctica, Alaska, LA, every month they go back to Romania and they've made All their appointments with the prosecutors and with DCOT there to check in.
00:25:47.000 They haven't missed one.
00:25:48.000 So, what does that say?
00:25:50.000 It says unequivocally they're not a flight risk.
00:25:52.000 So, you can't use that.
00:25:54.000 You can't use that anymore because it's no need to speculate.
00:25:57.000 There's proof.
00:25:57.000 There's actual proof.
00:25:58.000 Here's the proof.
00:25:59.000 So, then they're going to say they're dangerous.
00:26:01.000 Why are they dangerous?
00:26:01.000 Because the allegations are against them so bad.
00:26:03.000 Okay, let's analyze that.
00:26:05.000 Do they have a criminal record?
00:26:06.000 No.
00:26:07.000 Never been convicted of a crime.
00:26:08.000 Never been convicted, this, that, and the other thing.
00:26:10.000 And there's a history of allegations that have been systematically disproved.
00:26:13.000 That fall right into this wheelhouse.
00:26:16.000 And by the way, we haven't identified anybody in this case yet.
00:26:19.000 So they have a lot of problems.
00:26:21.000 And what we need to do is demonstrate to the court something that's called special circumstances.
00:26:25.000 And if we can articulate and say this is truly a novel and special circumstance, you should let them out, even though the presumption is against bail because they're using the system to hold them in,
00:26:36.000 then we can get them out at least back in Miami for the pendency of the extradition proceedings and see what happens from that point going forward.
00:26:43.000 Fair.
00:26:44.000 Not as fair.
00:26:45.000 Yeah.
00:26:45.000 Hey, guys, get your questions in if you guys have any.
00:26:47.000 FNFSuperChat.com.
00:26:49.000 And would it be because I was looking this up, I was looking at this case.
00:26:54.000 It's a.
00:26:56.000 Okay.
00:26:57.000 Bell v. Wolfish 441 U.S. 520 1979.
00:27:00.000 Individuals detained pending judicial proceedings cannot be subjected to conditions that amount to punishment.
00:27:05.000 Restrictions must be reasonable related to legitimate governmental objective.
00:27:11.000 And then there's another one.
00:27:12.000 This one's more specific to this case.
00:27:15.000 Hendrix?
00:27:15.000 Hendrix, yes, which is for extradition proceedings.
00:27:20.000 I'm sure that might be one of the cases on top of others that you guys are probably going to argue.
00:27:27.000 So, take us through the timeline.
00:27:28.000 So, August 5th is when you guys are going to file the actual argument, and then the 13th is the hearing?
00:27:35.000 Yeah.
00:27:35.000 So, two things I want to talk about.
00:27:37.000 We'll do the dates first.
00:27:38.000 August 5th is when our papers are due, August 10th is when the opposition papers are due.
00:27:43.000 That's from the government.
00:27:44.000 August 13th is when we argue in court.
00:27:47.000 So, you brought up Hendrix and Bell versus Wolfish, right?
00:27:51.000 Yes.
00:27:53.000 Yeah.
00:27:53.000 It's.
00:27:54.000 Yeah, the first one.
00:27:56.000 Yeah, I know these cases, Colin.
00:27:58.000 Yeah, I know these cases.
00:28:00.000 So, this is what we're going to talk about.
00:28:02.000 Right versus Henkel.
00:28:02.000 Sorry.
00:28:03.000 Right.
00:28:03.000 Right versus Henkel.
00:28:04.000 Okay.
00:28:04.000 Oh, that's the right.
00:28:06.000 That's the right.
00:28:08.000 Right.
00:28:09.000 That is.
00:28:10.000 Yep.
00:28:11.000 That's the old extradition 1903 case.
00:28:16.000 So, let's talk about Bell versus Wolfish, right?
00:28:18.000 And Hendricks.
00:28:19.000 That line of cases is important.
00:28:22.000 What do they articulate?
00:28:23.000 And these are Supreme Court decisions.
00:28:26.000 It's important for everybody to know that once you've been convicted of a crime, The standard that your confinement is judged by is the cruel and unusual standard under the Eighth Amendment of the United States Constitution.
00:28:38.000 You can be punished. 0.97
00:28:40.000 Jail is shitty. 0.99
00:28:41.000 It's not good. 0.99
00:28:42.000 Your freedom can be deprived.
00:28:44.000 And there's a lot of other ugly things that happen in jail.
00:28:46.000 And convicts and inmates, I hate those terms because they're dehumanizing, but that's what the system calls them, routinely file motions for cruel and unusual punishment.
00:28:55.000 And they're rarely granted because it's like, you know, the system knows you're a bad guy.
00:29:00.000 Jail is hell.
00:29:01.000 Deal with it.
00:29:02.000 But here's the thing that's important about the cases that you brought up, Myron.
00:29:05.000 Those cases say this.
00:29:07.000 If you're only being detained, whether you're a pretrial detainee or if you're being detained for extradition, that means that the presumption of innocence still attaches.
00:29:15.000 You're being held for a specific purpose.
00:29:17.000 This is administrative, and we need to produce you for court.
00:29:21.000 You haven't been convicted of a crime.
00:29:23.000 And if you haven't been convicted of a crime, the Fifth Amendment due process clause says you can't be punished for a crime.
00:29:29.000 So let's analyze what's going on in jail right now.
00:29:33.000 They've been in ADSEG since they've gotten here.
00:29:36.000 And administrative segregation, solitary confinement is banned in the European Union, is banned in many countries across the world.
00:29:44.000 And solitary confinement for 15 days or more under the Nelson Mandela rules, which is the international standard applied for conditions of confinement, is a human rights violation.
00:29:53.000 It's torture.
00:29:54.000 Solitary should never be used.
00:29:56.000 Prolonged solitary is a downright violation of somebody's human rights and basic dignity.
00:30:03.000 These guys have been in solitary the entire time.
00:30:06.000 Their human rights, their civil rights are already being violated.
00:30:10.000 But this is what we mean when the process is the punishment.
00:30:12.000 So we're going to bring up those cases, of course, to say one of the reasons why they should be let out is because FDC is not equipped to take care of them right now.
00:30:22.000 Right?
00:30:23.000 Solitary confinement is not the answer.
00:30:25.000 The answer is for them to be on the outside where they can meet with their counsel, where they can prepare for proceedings in the UK.
00:30:31.000 And by the way, so they can litigate their defamation case in Florida.
00:30:35.000 And our position is listen, if after we get our day in court in Florida and they do need to be extradited, which we don't want them to be extradited, okay, well, guess where they should go?
00:30:46.000 They should go to Romania first because Romania is higher in terms of the creditors.
00:30:51.000 Creditor number one, United States.
00:30:52.000 They're here.
00:30:53.000 United States.
00:30:54.000 Is America first?
00:30:55.000 We put our guys first.
00:30:55.000 They're on our soil.
00:30:57.000 Get them their day in court in Palm Beach. 0.97
00:30:59.000 Two, send them to Romania where they can finish their proceedings there.
00:31:02.000 And then after that, you want to talk about the UK?
00:31:06.000 We could talk about the UK.
00:31:08.000 Or if we lose the extradition proceeding, it's got to go before the Secretary of State.
00:31:13.000 Marco Rubio could just go, you know what?
00:31:14.000 This is political.
00:31:15.000 I'm not going to do it.
00:31:16.000 And just veto and just refuse to sign the extradition and kill it in the water right there.
00:31:20.000 So we have multiple avenues of approach.
00:31:23.000 First and foremost, we're in front of the judge here in Miami.
00:31:28.000 And we'll see how that shakes out.
00:31:30.000 If it shakes out for us, then we won't need to advance the ball that far.
00:31:34.000 If it goes against us, then we have other remedies that we can exhaust before they get sent over the pond.
00:31:40.000 So, to be clear, like, there's been no arguments made yet to get them out, which has been like formal hearings to kind of set it up to make the arguments where the government's going to have to do it.
00:31:49.000 I guess, is anyone from the UK going to come and argue, or is it going to just be strictly the U.S. government running the.
00:31:56.000 I mean, it's the English.
00:31:57.000 They never fight fair. 1.00
00:31:58.000 They're going to duck and run.
00:31:59.000 Yeah.
00:31:59.000 They're not going to.
00:32:00.000 If they show up, uh, It'll be great, but I doubt they're going to.
00:32:03.000 Yeah.
00:32:03.000 So, so you're going to be, because the prosecutor, the AUSA, is all they're doing is basically doing whatever England is telling them to do, more than likely.
00:32:11.000 They don't, they probably don't have the facts and first circumstances of the case, or at least not yet, or fully.
00:32:17.000 Can I, can I recount what happened in court real quick for him?
00:32:20.000 Yeah.
00:32:21.000 So imagine this, right? 1.00
00:32:23.000 I forgot the lady's name that was on your team Jackie. 1.00
00:32:25.000 Jackie. 1.00
00:32:26.000 Very nice lady.
00:32:28.000 Very prompt and upfront.
00:32:29.000 She's like, well, you know, we were requesting documents to just, Show what happened or what they're being alleged, you know, of doing.
00:32:36.000 And Lee's like, um, yeah, so we don't have any of that.
00:32:40.000 All we have is a piece of paper.
00:32:41.000 Oh, the prosecutor, the federal prosecutor.
00:32:43.000 Yeah, yeah, from the US government.
00:32:44.000 I was just like, I almost went quiet as, like, you have nothing?
00:32:47.000 That's crazy, bro.
00:32:48.000 Nothing to have.
00:32:49.000 Yeah, because, I mean, normally it would go, they send it to like the Department of Justice Office of International Affairs, right?
00:32:55.000 And then they're like, hey, I need you to, you know, hold this guy or whatever.
00:32:58.000 And then the marshals get a warrant from a judge and they just go get it.
00:33:01.000 And a lot of times they don't even know, all they know is some country wants you.
00:33:04.000 So it's like, You know, the people need to know, like, they have nothing in the United States, guys.
00:33:08.000 This is strictly the United Kingdom.
00:33:11.000 They've done nothing here in the U.S.
00:33:12.000 The marshals only went to go get them because a judge signed off on a warrant to get them because of a foreign country.
00:33:18.000 And then to add solitary confinement, that's inhumane, bro. 0.83
00:33:21.000 Yeah.
00:33:22.000 And it's kind of funny.
00:33:23.000 The U.K. doesn't even do that to their people, right?
00:33:26.000 I hope not.
00:33:26.000 I believe they don't.
00:33:27.000 Yeah.
00:33:27.000 But the U.K. got its own problems as well in jail.
00:33:31.000 I mean, some of those jails are really, really bad.
00:33:34.000 So, um, So, so, so, so they basically cut the line.
00:33:38.000 The UK is like, there was an agreement.
00:33:41.000 Romania's case comes first. 1.00
00:33:44.000 We're going to wait our turn. 1.00
00:33:46.000 They get to the United States.
00:33:47.000 They say, you know what, screw that.
00:33:48.000 Let's add in some charges.
00:33:49.000 You know, try to get them from the United States, cut the line.
00:33:53.000 Was there like, and there was an agreement put in place between the UK and Romania, and they decided, no, we're just going to cut the line. 0.81
00:33:59.000 Yeah, they decided we're going to cut the line.
00:34:00.000 Did they put in writing that they were going to wait until Romania, like, or.
00:34:03.000 Yeah, we have a court order and an understanding.
00:34:06.000 It's an agreement from Romania.
00:34:08.000 So it's in writing, and they still broke it.
00:34:10.000 Yeah, and guess what?
00:34:11.000 Have they, you know, they have not yet brought that up.
00:34:14.000 So, to be fair, what you were talking about in court the other day.
00:34:22.000 Ring the bell, man.
00:34:23.000 That's insane, dude.
00:34:24.000 Jackie very wisely began to bring up some of the very real problems, very obvious problems with this situation.
00:34:32.000 The judge said, hey, listen, now's not the time for that.
00:34:38.000 If you want to argue that, you can file your papers and instruct the court accordingly, and we'll sort of take it under advisement.
00:34:47.000 So, the other side, their position, governments are pretentious, condescending, paternalistic, and unapologetic. 0.99
00:34:56.000 They don't give a shit about you as a human being. 0.98
00:34:59.000 You know, from being in the system, they say, you know, bring the bodies up. 0.99
00:35:02.000 They don't even call them humans.
00:35:04.000 So, they're not going to apologize.
00:35:06.000 If they don't need to give us something today, they're not going to give it to us today.
00:35:09.000 If they can wait to the last day, they'll wait to the last day to do it because that's who they are.
00:35:14.000 To be fair to the prosecutors who are here in this office, They've been given instructions to litigate these extradition proceedings.
00:35:24.000 They have to obey their superiors.
00:35:26.000 They're from DOJ Maine.
00:35:27.000 Right.
00:35:29.000 And they have to carry it out.
00:35:31.000 So we have no idea whether they love what they're doing, whether they hate what they're doing.
00:35:35.000 They'll never tell us.
00:35:36.000 We don't have it like in my January 6 cases, all these guys and gals that persecuted my guys seethed with hatred.
00:35:43.000 You could tell, like, wow, they hate my guys. 0.53
00:35:45.000 They want them to die. 0.93
00:35:47.000 We haven't gotten to that point yet.
00:35:48.000 It's been very friendly.
00:35:50.000 It's been very fair.
00:35:51.000 They just said it's been professional and polite and everything.
00:35:53.000 Yeah, there's been.
00:35:53.000 It's not their case, so it's like.
00:35:55.000 It's been right.
00:35:55.000 They're just like, look, this is what we're doing.
00:35:57.000 There's a treaty, and we're here to talk about it.
00:36:00.000 So we'll see what type of ball they play as the next few weeks come.
00:36:05.000 Yeah, the feeling was in the courtroom was kind of like, okay, they gave us this paper.
00:36:09.000 We locked them up.
00:36:09.000 Yeah.
00:36:10.000 But we're like, that's all we have.
00:36:11.000 Yeah.
00:36:12.000 Judge, you know, that's all we have.
00:36:13.000 And that makes sense because, like, a lot of times it's not your case, it's not your investigation.
00:36:17.000 You just get a request from a foreign government, comes from way up top, comes from DOJ Maine.
00:36:21.000 Where are they at?
00:36:22.000 Oh, they're in the Southern District of Florida.
00:36:24.000 Judge, district judge signs it.
00:36:25.000 Marshal, go get him.
00:36:27.000 They're just like, we're just being told what to do.
00:36:29.000 It's like, not really, you know.
00:36:31.000 So, our video went viral on Instagram, it went global.
00:36:34.000 Now, just for the audience, real quick in the chat.
00:36:36.000 The one with you and Joe?
00:36:37.000 Yeah.
00:36:37.000 Okay, nice.
00:36:38.000 Now, imagine, right?
00:36:39.000 One of your friends is in this same scenario.
00:36:43.000 You've known him for a while, good person, everyone loves him, and this happens to him.
00:36:49.000 How would you feel if, for example, this was your friend in this scenario?
00:36:55.000 Say he's guilty?
00:36:56.000 Would you defend him? 0.99
00:36:57.000 So, when people say, Oh, Fresh is guilty, nigga, you don't know him, first of all.
00:37:01.000 And secondly, it's like, If it was your friend, what would you do? 1.00
00:37:04.000 Because, honestly, guys, like, this is some bullshit, bro. 1.00
00:37:07.000 Like, deadass. 1.00
00:37:08.000 It's some bullshit. 1.00
00:37:09.000 Now, on the other hand, you have to go through the legal process, of course. 1.00
00:37:13.000 But I just feel like it's just so crazy because you get put into solitary confinement.
00:37:19.000 There's no evidence.
00:37:19.000 And it's like, Bro, what's happening here?
00:37:21.000 Give them their freedom at least.
00:37:23.000 Yeah, dude.
00:37:23.000 I mean, we could say it right now.
00:37:25.000 Pretty conclusively, the U.S. government doesn't have any of England's evidence.
00:37:27.000 They just got a document.
00:37:28.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:37:29.000 All they got is a document saying, hey, go get these guys and put them in jail, police, so that we can extradite them.
00:37:35.000 And look, to be on bite.
00:37:36.000 Listen, if you have hardcore evidence, you know what?
00:37:37.000 All right, we could argue that, but nothing's there.
00:37:40.000 Yeah.
00:37:40.000 So we got to wait 60 days for them to get something.
00:37:42.000 But, I mean.
00:37:44.000 Because this is something else that's kind of throwing me off.
00:37:47.000 England doesn't want to disclose the name of the victims, right?
00:37:50.000 Yeah.
00:37:50.000 Could it be because they were the same victims from cases before that were dropped?
00:37:53.000 Woo!
00:37:54.000 I thought about that.
00:37:55.000 So.
00:37:56.000 I don't want to be speculative, but in my head, I'm like, why are they so reluctant?
00:37:59.000 Possibly turn anything over.
00:38:02.000 I don't want to get in trouble.
00:38:04.000 But this is my answer.
00:38:05.000 This is my answer.
00:38:06.000 Why don't you guys look at each other and use your common sense and think is that a possibility?
00:38:12.000 Yeah, that's what I think.
00:38:13.000 I mean, and that's my, my, not, this is not his counsel.
00:38:15.000 This is me.
00:38:16.000 I genuinely think these are the same people that tried back in 2010, between 2010 and 2015.
00:38:22.000 Same accusers coming back again.
00:38:24.000 Probably got paid off this time to do it because the last time it failed.
00:38:28.000 They, and then they, and then just so you guys know, the police department, the people that are investigating this are local police departments in England that, you know, had open cases against them before they got dropped.
00:38:39.000 So they're the ones that are running these things, reopening them all of a sudden years after the fact.
00:38:43.000 So what new evidence do you have now?
00:38:45.000 Like, I don't know.
00:38:46.000 Like 10 years later. 1.00
00:38:47.000 And look, it's worthy to note that I've never really brought up this little fat midget's name because I can't stand him. 1.00
00:38:58.000 Even though he's clout chasing and he tries to tag me and talk to me and get the traction going online. 1.00
00:39:07.000 Oh, I know what you're talking about.
00:39:12.000 I just ignored him.
00:39:14.000 But the lawyer.
00:39:15.000 There's this lawyer from the UK.
00:39:18.000 Who just went on Piers Morgan the other night?
00:39:20.000 His name is Matthew Jury.
00:39:21.000 I guess that's a good name for a lawyer, right?
00:39:23.000 Jury.
00:39:24.000 And he's been fundraising cases against the Tates out there for several years, civil litigation.
00:39:34.000 And he's gone on this sort of English tour to talk about how bad the Tate brothers are.
00:39:42.000 And there are other NGOs and organizations that have said horrible things.
00:39:47.000 And defamatory statements about the brothers, pursuant to what this guy says and his partners have said.
00:39:54.000 And if we win this case in Florida, they're all going to be on the hook for defamation as well because they haven't made suggestions that this could be possible.
00:40:04.000 They haven't said, well, this is what they're accused of, but this is what's happened in the past.
00:40:09.000 And they haven't been fair and balanced about anything.
00:40:12.000 They repeatedly say on a regular basis that Andrew and Tristan are guilty of sin, that they've committed crimes, that they've done this, that they've done that.
00:40:20.000 And that just doesn't work.
00:40:21.000 It doesn't work in the American justice system.
00:40:24.000 It doesn't work in real life. 0.84
00:40:25.000 But be that as it may, the liberal media and the mainstream media empower midgets like him to get out there and pontificate about cases that they're actually fundraising for. 0.78
00:40:38.000 Can you imagine fundraising?
00:40:40.000 This is your entire existence.
00:40:41.000 Your entire existence is the raise your profile by persecuting Andrew and Tristan Tate, and you haven't been paid for it.
00:40:47.000 So you're fundraising and you're taking money from NGOs or whatever it is to make your name.
00:40:52.000 In order to raise your profile, even though you've never proved anything thus far.
00:40:58.000 Yeah, I don't know.
00:41:01.000 I believe it gives people the opportunity to like virtue signal.
00:41:03.000 You know what I mean?
00:41:05.000 Is what they're trying to do and come in. 0.99
00:41:06.000 I'm a champion for a woman and have some BS.
00:41:10.000 So I just find this interesting, though, because all of this began in April of 22 when they first raided the house, when the girl falsely called the U.S. Embassy saying she's being held against her will. 0.98
00:41:20.000 That girl's being sued.
00:41:22.000 Fast forward four years.
00:41:23.000 You guys bring the lawsuit.
00:41:24.000 You guys are going to go to trial in early 2027. 1.00
00:41:27.000 Right before that trial, where I'm assuming the discovery has probably been fantastic for you guys on the plaintiff side because this girl is ridiculous.
00:41:36.000 Right before that, UK says, you know what, we're going to cut the line because she is probably critical to the British case because the whole House of Cards comes down and they get picked up in the process. 0.63
00:41:47.000 And then obviously, I'm having a political party and everything else.
00:41:50.000 These are all reasons in the school.
00:41:52.000 So you got a very important civil case, you got the school, you got the Bruv party.
00:41:58.000 You just put the things together and it's like, okay, that makes sense why they need these guys out here.
00:42:01.000 That is exactly right.
00:42:03.000 There is a system in place under which you are forced to go to college.
00:42:08.000 Well, up until recently, you must go to college in order to become successful.
00:42:12.000 That's the rule.
00:42:13.000 And when you go to college, they indoctrinate you.
00:42:16.000 And the world is waking up now saying, you know what, maybe college isn't so necessary.
00:42:21.000 Andrew feeds into that with a lot of wisdom and with a lot of foresight.
00:42:26.000 And their university says, hey, you can actually make money selling crypto.
00:42:30.000 You can make money drop shipping.
00:42:32.000 You can make money opening your own business online.
00:42:35.000 Here's how to do it.
00:42:36.000 You can cut that process out and not be.
00:42:39.000 Indoctrinated by the university system or in debt or in debt and therefore escape the matrix, escape the debt and escape the slave mind and become your own small business owner, your own entrepreneur,
00:42:52.000 and become somebody who's a millionaire and then maybe a billionaire one day because you did it on your own terms.
00:42:56.000 And that is what they fear the most because men like that can't be controlled.
00:43:02.000 Good point.
00:43:02.000 Yeah.
00:43:04.000 It's just crazy because, like, when you actually look at everything and you look at the civil case, the Bruv party, School, the social media influence, you start to figure out that there's many, then it can't be controlled, right?
00:43:16.000 Not putting out the right message.
00:43:17.000 They only let you get big like that when you are controllable, right?
00:43:21.000 When you look at all these different things, you're like, okay, this makes sense.
00:43:24.000 Why?
00:43:25.000 We gotta, you know.
00:43:26.000 What scares me is the random meetings that people came to Andrew with offering money, offering a way out.
00:43:33.000 The Jack Neal interview, guys, is very good.
00:43:34.000 You guys should go check that out where it kind of explains a lot of this stuff, right?
00:43:38.000 Obviously, we're not going into a full detail here, but I do think it's important that you guys understand that.
00:43:43.000 There's some significant reasons why he's being persecuted like this.
00:43:46.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:43:47.000 Look, I've been at the table with Andrew in various countries where we've been approached by intelligence assets from other countries, and they're very forthright about it.
00:43:56.000 Wow.
00:43:56.000 This is who we are.
00:43:58.000 We'd like to work with you on this.
00:43:59.000 We'd like to work with you on that.
00:44:01.000 There's a lot of people who want what he has.
00:44:05.000 But Andrew's his own man.
00:44:06.000 Tristan's his own man.
00:44:07.000 They've stood on their own two feet.
00:44:09.000 And because they can't be controlled, now this is the effort to try to control them.
00:44:14.000 Now, who else?
00:44:17.000 Has a lot of money, speaks out, has a big mouth, says what he wants to say, can't be controlled.
00:44:24.000 Elon Musk.
00:44:25.000 Also runs for office and successfully ran for office.
00:44:27.000 Trump.
00:44:28.000 Right.
00:44:29.000 And what did they do to him?
00:44:31.000 Yeah.
00:44:31.000 They came for him, bunch of sham trials, 91 charges at one, 20 over here, tried to bankrupt him.
00:44:39.000 He blew trial, won things on appeal.
00:44:41.000 I helped file, my team filed the amicus brief in one of his cases because of the horrible judgment against him for $400 million, $450.
00:44:51.000 And the process was the punishment.
00:44:53.000 They dragged him through the process.
00:44:55.000 They tried to destroy his name.
00:44:57.000 And it just made him bigger.
00:44:59.000 And people understood.
00:45:01.000 Look, you're bringing up allegations from 30, 40 years ago.
00:45:04.000 That's a genuine carol. 0.99
00:45:05.000 Are you shitting me? 0.97
00:45:06.000 An episode from Law and Order SVU. 0.99
00:45:08.000 It's crazy.
00:45:09.000 Yo, she literally, her entire fact pattern was an episode of Law and Order SVU.
00:45:16.000 It's a script. 0.98
00:45:17.000 And she sold a book.
00:45:18.000 A lot of people don't know this.
00:45:20.000 What she did was she was selling a book at the time.
00:45:23.000 She first released like a part of the book and she put that part in where Trump allegedly did XYZ to her.
00:45:29.000 It did so well, she said, You know what?
00:45:31.000 All right.
00:45:32.000 Put in the book, did a tour, made a bunch of money.
00:45:35.000 She ran with it.
00:45:36.000 Yeah, and she ran with it. 0.90
00:45:37.000 Wasn't she the one that said that grape is. 0.93
00:45:40.000 Doesn't have to be physical.
00:45:40.000 Yeah, it doesn't have to be physical.
00:45:42.000 Yeah.
00:45:42.000 Bro, what?
00:45:43.000 It's crazy, bro. 1.00
00:45:43.000 This woman's a nut job. 1.00
00:45:45.000 Even Anderson Cooper was uncomfortable with a CNN interview with her. 0.99
00:45:47.000 And then, like, you look at her, you look at Brett Kavanaugh, right?
00:45:50.000 Who also was someone who was falsely accused by this woman.
00:45:55.000 When he's going to become a Supreme Court justice.
00:45:56.000 Like, this whole Me Too thing is insane.
00:45:58.000 It's absolutely insane.
00:45:59.000 By the way, we defended Me Too so many times on this show. 0.98
00:46:03.000 Yeah, it's just ridiculous.
00:46:04.000 We need a system where if someone is falsely accusing somebody of these allegations, they should be put in jail.
00:46:10.000 This article just came up recently, and actually, this guy won the case.
00:46:13.000 This one was in Hong Kong, I believe.
00:46:16.000 Oh, it's gone?
00:46:18.000 Oh, my God.
00:46:18.000 Of course, I took it off Instagram.
00:46:19.000 Oh, my God.
00:46:20.000 Of course, I took it off Instagram.
00:46:21.000 Instagram took one of my posts down the other day with Andrew.
00:46:24.000 I peeled it, got it back.
00:46:26.000 They're on it.
00:46:27.000 Nah, nah, I got a screenshot.
00:46:28.000 No, I got, oh, no, no, no.
00:46:29.000 I got this.
00:46:30.000 All right, chat.
00:46:31.000 Look, look.
00:46:32.000 So, this is all my story, right?
00:46:33.000 All right, here you go, Bills.
00:46:35.000 Yeah, the Me Too stuff is insane, dude.
00:46:38.000 It's absolutely insane.
00:46:40.000 And people that say, okay, look, you know what?
00:46:43.000 Oh, you got it? 1.00
00:46:44.000 Yeah, so she got put into jail actually for six years.
00:46:50.000 So, a British woman jailed for falsely accusing a banker of rape in Hong Kong.
00:46:54.000 A British woman who accused a banker of rape in Hong Kong has been jailed for six years for blackmail and perverting the course of public justice.
00:47:01.000 Bro, they all need to go to jail for this shirt, bro.
00:47:03.000 Yeah, bro.
00:47:04.000 Well, the problem is that there's no ramifications if they get caught lying.
00:47:08.000 So, like, They'll just do it.
00:47:09.000 And then, like, if you look at it from their perspective, if I accuse someone who's wealthy, like, I can get paid, I'm not going to go to jail, it's worth rolling the dice a lot of the times.
00:47:19.000 Dude, they don't care. 0.56
00:47:20.000 They're like demons, bro.
00:47:21.000 You know, you look at Johnny Depp, right?
00:47:22.000 That was a perfect example.
00:47:24.000 Had he not secretly recorded her, bro, would probably be.
00:47:28.000 So let's talk about that.
00:47:30.000 Yeah.
00:47:31.000 If Johnny Depp wasn't Johnny Depp, and if he didn't have the wealth that he has, and if he didn't have the ability to defend himself, everybody would have just believed.
00:47:40.000 The allegations.
00:47:41.000 Yeah.
00:47:41.000 And he would have been done for the rest of his life.
00:47:44.000 But he had the balls. 0.99
00:47:44.000 He lost a lot of deals. 0.99
00:47:45.000 Everyone believed right in the beginning.
00:47:46.000 Yeah.
00:47:46.000 But he had the balls, he had the resources, and he had the courage to go out there and fight it.
00:47:50.000 And he won. 0.95
00:47:51.000 And he won.
00:47:52.000 So we're doing that as well.
00:47:55.000 And we are also trying to pioneer what you guys are talking about.
00:47:59.000 There should be criminal recourse for these types of things.
00:48:03.000 As a matter of fact, when the statewide prosecutor's office came to us, and I have this all documented in email in Florida, and we said, hey, take a look at our file.
00:48:10.000 We also gave them everything on girl A and said, maybe you want to take a look at this because it's criminal.
00:48:15.000 I was going to ask you next.
00:48:16.000 It's criminal.
00:48:17.000 Right?
00:48:18.000 And if somebody else were in charge over there, maybe they would have done the right thing.
00:48:23.000 So, you know, we have to get a system in place.
00:48:26.000 We have to get representatives in place who care enough about men and who care enough about fathers to not let their children be ripped away from them by a mere allegation, to not let them be debanked or have their wealth dragged out of them simply for getting married.
00:48:39.000 And then their wife cheats on them with a personal trainer and they lose their house.
00:48:43.000 They lose all their wealth.
00:48:44.000 And all that stuff.
00:48:44.000 So, the system is geared against the man.
00:48:47.000 We are trying to undo that.
00:48:49.000 And if you're a man who cares about this, right, you should say, look, I may disagree with Andrew's life and Tristan's words and how they lived their life, but this is more important because I have fathers, I have sons.
00:49:01.000 I mean, look at Marco Rubio, for example, Secretary of State.
00:49:04.000 His son plays college football right here in Florida.
00:49:06.000 We know from what happened in USC in that case and other cases, all takes as one allegation his career is over.
00:49:12.000 He's getting dragged through court, his name is ruined for the rest of his life.
00:49:16.000 This is depressing.
00:49:17.000 They kick you out of school.
00:49:18.000 Universities have shamroo courts.
00:49:20.000 They don't, there's no dupe.
00:49:20.000 They'll just be like, oh, you got allocation?
00:49:22.000 Get out of here.
00:49:22.000 Right.
00:49:23.000 That's exactly right.
00:49:24.000 Nobody's safe.
00:49:25.000 Men need to be protected.
00:49:27.000 Men need to be protected. 1.00
00:49:28.000 The idea that men are somehow predatory because they're born with a penis and have testosterone in their body is absolutely evil. 0.99
00:49:35.000 You know what's scary? 0.93
00:49:36.000 Just being here in Miami as well, you get to see how men's lives are destroyed in real time.
00:49:40.000 Like, they'll be doing fine business, work their whole career, got a degree. 1.00
00:49:46.000 Be one girl, it's over. 1.00
00:49:47.000 Yeah, I mean, there's a business here in Miami of girls extorting. 1.00
00:49:50.000 Like, it's a thing here in Florida where girls will extort men, like, they have money, like, oh, I'll make this allegation against you. 1.00
00:49:54.000 And they'll just pay because they don't want to deal with that. 0.95
00:49:56.000 All right, here's $10,000.
00:49:57.000 Just don't, don't.
00:49:57.000 It's a group chat.
00:49:59.000 It's a group chat, by the way.
00:50:00.000 But here's my point.
00:50:02.000 Trump has been through this multiple times.
00:50:05.000 Now, I'm not saying he should do something.
00:50:07.000 I'm just saying, like, wouldn't it be good if he did something for everybody after what happened to him?
00:50:13.000 Because I think, like, that was terrible, bro.
00:50:15.000 He could have been in jail for years.
00:50:17.000 Yeah, no, we definitely need some type of legislation to deal with this.
00:50:19.000 This whole Me Too thing is like, it's starting to get very fatiguing me, dude.
00:50:23.000 It's fatiguing everybody.
00:50:25.000 But no one wants to challenge it because no one wants to come and look like, oh, you're, you know, a grape enthusiast or a protector.
00:50:30.000 But it's like, no, we need to put something in place where people deal with consequences for lying.
00:50:34.000 And using it to enrich themselves. 1.00
00:50:36.000 That's what ends up happening a lot of predatory women out there will target someone and say, You know what? 1.00
00:50:43.000 I know it was consensual. 1.00
00:50:45.000 And what they'll do is they'll use regret, say that it's rape, and then use it to get a payday.
00:50:51.000 Or non payment.
00:50:52.000 But my thing is, okay, if they did a crime, of course, they need to go to jail.
00:50:55.000 Sure.
00:50:56.000 Piss punishment. 0.98
00:50:56.000 Of course. 0.98
00:50:57.000 But when they're lying like this, bro, dude, it's fucked up. 1.00
00:51:01.000 It's real bad. 0.99
00:51:02.000 And it's common.
00:51:03.000 Very, very common.
00:51:04.000 It's one of the Ten Commandments Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
00:51:08.000 We have perjury.
00:51:09.000 As a part of the court process, there's consequences for it.
00:51:12.000 But when you weaponize the court process, so what happens when you use the court process, you're protected in terms of defamation law because they don't want to create a precedent where people are like, where they don't use the process, where they're afraid to use it.
00:51:26.000 But on the other hand, right, if you use it to falsely litigate a case against a man and destroy the man and he can prove it or destroy a woman for that matter, right, you should have appropriate recourse to turn around and sue.
00:51:37.000 And that's certainly what we're trying to do.
00:51:39.000 Look, Johnny Depp did it.
00:51:40.000 Yeah.
00:51:40.000 You got a judgment, right?
00:51:42.000 We're in the process of doing it.
00:51:44.000 Other men need to be able to stand up and do it now.
00:51:46.000 Because in the social media world that we live in, where everything is published online, defamation law is going to just continue to grow and grow and grow and grow because of the whole world's like this.
00:51:56.000 That Johnny Depp case was a huge wake up call, I think, for a lot of America.
00:52:00.000 It was great that it was televised the way that it was and he won.
00:52:03.000 You know, but people forget it came at great personal expense, right?
00:52:07.000 He lost millions of dollars of opportunities.
00:52:09.000 I think the only people that stuck, I think Pirates of the Caribbean dropped him for a bit.
00:52:13.000 He wasn't able to, you know, act doing that.
00:52:15.000 Every sponsor dropped him except for, like, I think a cologne company.
00:52:18.000 So he lost a lot of money.
00:52:20.000 And then I don't even know if he's recouped all the money he lost that he spent in defending himself.
00:52:25.000 And, you know, it's good because, you know, obviously it's about principle.
00:52:28.000 But a lot of the times, do men have the resources to fight it?
00:52:31.000 You know, are they going to be able to recoup the money after fighting it?
00:52:33.000 Do they get the reputation back?
00:52:34.000 A lot of times, the accusation in and of itself, no one cares to see what the disposition was.
00:52:38.000 So it's just a very unfortunate, scary time to be a guy.
00:52:42.000 And look, you may not care about Andrew or Tristan.
00:52:44.000 That's fine.
00:52:44.000 Yeah.
00:52:45.000 Well, whatever it is, that's fine.
00:52:46.000 But this could be you.
00:52:47.000 Yeah.
00:52:48.000 Literally, this could be you tomorrow, bro.
00:52:49.000 Yeah, bro.
00:52:50.000 Your best friend.
00:52:51.000 Your brother, sister.
00:52:51.000 Sorry, not sister, but father.
00:52:53.000 Because this could happen to anybody.
00:52:55.000 Yeah.
00:52:55.000 Nobody is safe.
00:52:56.000 I don't care how much money you got.
00:52:57.000 I'm going to cut it down.
00:52:58.000 And they can do it to them.
00:53:00.000 What's going to happen to you when you put the fries in the bag, bro?
00:53:03.000 Yeah.
00:53:03.000 No, you're a cook.
00:53:03.000 Bro, you put the fries in the bag.
00:53:05.000 You're done.
00:53:05.000 Yo, it's over.
00:53:05.000 They're going to put you in the bag.
00:53:06.000 You thought divorce was bad? 0.80
00:53:07.000 It's worse than divorce.
00:53:08.000 It's bad, man.
00:53:09.000 You know, so like, look, you don't have to like Andrew or Tristan personally.
00:53:11.000 That's fine.
00:53:12.000 You don't like to have, like, Trump.
00:53:13.000 Cool.
00:53:13.000 Whatever.
00:53:14.000 But what we're trying to explain to you guys is that there's a trend going on here that if we don't stop this or do something and fight back against it, It's going to be a snowball effect and it's going to destroy everybody.
00:53:23.000 So, real quick, here's my page on Instagram here, right?
00:53:25.000 Go to my story if you don't mind, Bills.
00:53:27.000 So, this happened again today with someone that we know.
00:53:30.000 Just go back a little bit.
00:53:32.000 Yeah, this one right here.
00:53:33.000 You can pause it.
00:53:35.000 So, Ye has reached a settlement with former personal assistant Lauren Piscota.
00:53:41.000 Of course.
00:53:41.000 Who accused him of SH assault and S trafficking.
00:53:47.000 Now, let me get this straight.
00:53:51.000 Again, you know, I'm not saying that if someone's guilty, they shouldn't be prosecuted for it.
00:53:55.000 For sure.
00:53:56.000 But why are you settling if you're there for justice?
00:53:59.000 Why settle?
00:54:00.000 You know what I mean?
00:54:01.000 Well, it depends.
00:54:01.000 Just the money, I mean.
00:54:02.000 Bro, that's what I'm saying, bro.
00:54:03.000 It's messed up.
00:54:04.000 It depends on how much wealth you have and how much you're settling for, right? 1.00
00:54:08.000 So if you just, like, look, this shit ain't going to be worth it. 0.99
00:54:11.000 I got contracts I don't want to lose. 0.99
00:54:13.000 My Adidas contract is worth more than anything that could happen here. 0.97
00:54:17.000 What does she want? 0.89
00:54:18.000 50 grand, 100 grand, a million dollars?
00:54:19.000 I'm a billionaire.
00:54:20.000 Here you go.
00:54:21.000 That's why it's a racket.
00:54:22.000 Yeah.
00:54:22.000 Because they know that men like this are inclined to just settle and make it go away.
00:54:28.000 So they take advantage of the process and say, I'm just going to get something out of here.
00:54:32.000 They're going to settle.
00:54:33.000 Right, he doesn't want to be jammed up, he doesn't want to deal with all this go through discovery and makes men uh, you're a target if you're rich, if you're powerful, if you're Kanye, if you're Andrew, or if you're Trump, or if you're you, you, or me, which is why you know I got this wedding ring on,
00:54:48.000 I'm a one woman guy, and I ain't I am out of that life forever because uh, the risk ain't worth the reward.
00:54:55.000 Uh, I got a beautiful wife at home who's watching right now who I love very much, nice, and uh, you know, of all the great things, one of the great benefits about being married to the right woman, a woman who loves you, supports you. 0.99
00:55:07.000 Ride or die for you is you don't have to worry about this shit. 1.00
00:55:09.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:55:10.000 Right?
00:55:10.000 I'm not in the life.
00:55:11.000 I'm not involved in that world.
00:55:13.000 I have zero exposure.
00:55:14.000 I also don't drink alcohol.
00:55:16.000 Zero exposure to that as well.
00:55:17.000 I got to keep secrets.
00:55:18.000 If I drink too much, one life, well, I get too talking and hey, guess what happened in court?
00:55:22.000 My career's over.
00:55:23.000 Yeah.
00:55:23.000 I eliminate all risk at this point in my life.
00:55:25.000 I'm almost 50 years old.
00:55:26.000 I'm 48.
00:55:27.000 Been around long enough.
00:55:28.000 I've seen enough to know that the risk is just not worth the squeeze.
00:55:32.000 No.
00:55:36.000 No, no, no.
00:55:37.000 Remember my situation?
00:55:38.000 Yeah.
00:55:39.000 With the freaking. 0.72
00:55:40.000 With Asia? 0.93
00:55:42.000 What was it? 0.84
00:55:42.000 CCP? 0.84
00:55:42.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.84
00:55:44.000 Bro, bro.
00:55:44.000 It was like, all right, you know what?
00:55:47.000 I'm a touchable nigga. 0.93
00:55:48.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.86
00:55:48.000 Yeah. 0.86
00:55:49.000 I moved through the city, got the keys.
00:55:51.000 You know, I'm that guy.
00:55:52.000 And then kind of find out I'm not touchable.
00:55:55.000 Yeah, they'll reach out and touch you.
00:55:57.000 Yeah, yeah, they definitely will, bro.
00:55:58.000 So it's like nobody's safer.
00:56:01.000 You know what that game is. 1.00
00:56:02.000 It's some bullshit, man. 1.00
00:56:03.000 It's very unfortunate, man. 1.00
00:56:04.000 Like you said before, you know, to litigate these things is going to cost you hundreds of thousands, if not, you know, more.
00:56:09.000 Way more.
00:56:10.000 So it costs you way more to defend yourself.
00:56:13.000 Then it does to just be like, yo, here's the money, get out of here.
00:56:15.000 And like, some people look at it like, oh, that's an admission of guilt.
00:56:17.000 It's like, no, it does.
00:56:18.000 Like, by the time this drags on and it's done, like, I've spent way more money.
00:56:22.000 And time is money.
00:56:23.000 And time.
00:56:24.000 Opportunity.
00:56:24.000 Right?
00:56:26.000 And then the discovery process, things could come out that might be unrelated, but not unrelated.
00:56:30.000 Yeah, unrelated, exactly.
00:56:31.000 Process is the punishment.
00:56:32.000 Yeah.
00:56:33.000 So most guys just like settle.
00:56:34.000 I mean, look at Shannon Sharp.
00:56:35.000 He was in a relationship with that girl for years.
00:56:37.000 Bro.
00:56:37.000 He tried to say, oh, he did X, Y, Z to me.
00:56:39.000 He was like, you know, man, here's the money, get out of my face.
00:56:41.000 But it was a shakedown. 1.00
00:56:42.000 And women know they could get on a little bit. 1.00
00:56:44.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:56:47.000 Friend of the show, white guy, she's been here before, had a thriving online business.
00:56:56.000 I won't say what it is because it's too much details, but met this young lady, right?
00:57:01.000 Up north, dead, Miami dead.
00:57:04.000 Started dating, you know, he moved her in, took care of her, you know, it was serious. 1.00
00:57:12.000 But she lied about a lot of things, you know, obviously, women lie. 0.97
00:57:16.000 And, um, What was important is that she lied about her age. 0.99
00:57:21.000 And she knew what she was doing from the very beginning.
00:57:23.000 She had fake ID.
00:57:26.000 Her mom vouched for her.
00:57:28.000 Everyone went along with the plan. 1.00
00:57:29.000 Damn, the mom lied? 1.00
00:57:30.000 Yes. 1.00
00:57:31.000 Here's the worst part his business was doing well.
00:57:36.000 Remember, it was thriving, best time in his life.
00:57:39.000 He worked at his house for years.
00:57:41.000 He's finally made it.
00:57:43.000 She said to him, listen, I need some money.
00:57:47.000 Where's it coming from?
00:57:48.000 Like, you know, you're good.
00:57:50.000 The food is taken care of.
00:57:51.000 We go shopping.
00:57:52.000 No, I need some money.
00:57:55.000 What do you need? 1.00
00:57:56.000 You know how much money she asked for? 1.00
00:57:57.000 What? 1.00
00:57:59.000 A million dollars.
00:58:00.000 Just for a million.
00:58:01.000 And he said, Why'd I give you a million?
00:58:03.000 Like, don't you love me?
00:58:04.000 Oh, there's no love there.
00:58:06.000 Fast forward.
00:58:06.000 I love your money.
00:58:08.000 Fast forward. 1.00
00:58:09.000 She said, If you don't give me the money, I'm going to tell everyone that you had sex with a minor. 1.00
00:58:13.000 Oh. 1.00
00:58:15.000 So.
00:58:16.000 And in Florida, in the state of Florida, not knowing age is not a defense.
00:58:20.000 It's not. 1.00
00:58:20.000 So a woman can lie to you. 1.00
00:58:22.000 Say she's 21, which some of these girls look like that, and she's really 17. 1.00
00:58:25.000 Age of consent in Florida is 18, and you're cooked.
00:58:28.000 He went bankrupt.
00:58:29.000 He lost everything and he's.
00:58:31.000 Or he went for the money.
00:58:32.000 No, no, no, no.
00:58:34.000 He tried fighting it. 1.00
00:58:36.000 Shoot him. 1.00
00:58:36.000 Yes. 1.00
00:58:36.000 Now, here's the worst part. 1.00
00:58:38.000 That incident, bro, is why I, nigga, don't care if she's 20, 21. 0.93
00:58:43.000 Nigga, I'm going for 25 plus. 0.74
00:58:46.000 Bro, that's scary, bro. 1.00
00:58:47.000 Isn't that scary?
00:58:48.000 Yeah, yeah, that's not scary, bro.
00:58:49.000 That can happen to anybody.
00:58:51.000 It is scary.
00:58:52.000 It's real.
00:58:53.000 I'll be interested to talk to you about that offline because I represent somebody in Florida who's got that same exact backpack.
00:58:59.000 Bro, bro, bro.
00:59:00.000 Oh, by the way, There's a bunch of guys.
00:59:02.000 I've heard a lot of girls like.
00:59:02.000 No, no, this is a ring.
00:59:03.000 It's a ring.
00:59:04.000 It's the same one.
00:59:05.000 Yeah.
00:59:05.000 Dude, it's the same exact one.
00:59:06.000 It is a play in Florida where they do this for a living, bro. 1.00
00:59:10.000 Multiple girls do this. 1.00
00:59:11.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:59:11.000 And they make millions of dollars off of this shit. 1.00
00:59:14.000 It's organized crime. 1.00
00:59:15.000 There you go. 0.59
00:59:17.000 It's Rico.
00:59:18.000 Yeah.
00:59:18.000 Especially if two or more are working together.
00:59:20.000 Yeah, they weaponize the.
00:59:22.000 Because there's no.
00:59:23.000 Like, it's important for people to know in Florida, not knowing the age is not a defense.
00:59:28.000 Even if she, like, presented all this stuff, mom saying she's of age.
00:59:32.000 Mom's in on it.
00:59:33.000 You're articulating a conspiracy.
00:59:36.000 By the way, she bought a Bentley, went on vacation to Europe.
00:59:41.000 So, what did she do? 0.97
00:59:42.000 She didn't even go to the cops, she just sued him civilly. 0.94
00:59:44.000 And won.
00:59:45.000 They had a lawyer there waiting, bro, ready to go. 1.00
00:59:48.000 It's so fucked up, bro. 1.00
00:59:50.000 She said, Give me a million or else I'm suing you. 1.00
00:59:51.000 And she did.
00:59:53.000 This is like chasing ambulances, except you're chasing something else.
00:59:55.000 Wow.
00:59:56.000 Insane.
00:59:58.000 Insane.
00:59:59.000 Yep.
00:59:59.000 And the fact that you're like, oh, yeah, I have a client that lets you do the same thing.
01:00:04.000 I very much do.
01:00:06.000 Wow.
01:00:07.000 That's insane, man.
01:00:08.000 All this to say, let's give Andrew Tristan a fair chance because obviously speaking, like, this is messed up by all means possible.
01:00:16.000 It is really messed up.
01:00:17.000 And if it was your friend, what would you do?
01:00:19.000 What would you guys do?
01:00:19.000 Like, honestly, what would you do?
01:00:20.000 Yeah.
01:00:21.000 And look, and I think the timing is impeccable, like, that you got the civil case that's about to go to trial.
01:00:25.000 And then they're like, we got to cut the line.
01:00:27.000 You're like, just a coincidence.
01:00:28.000 Yeah, just a coincidence.
01:00:29.000 By the way, nobody wants to defend these allegations because they're very heinous allegations.
01:00:33.000 I understand that part.
01:00:34.000 But, you know, it's BS.
01:00:36.000 It's like, No, this is what's justice.
01:00:38.000 Yeah.
01:00:39.000 So.
01:00:40.000 Yeah.
01:00:42.000 So.
01:00:42.000 Chats?
01:00:43.000 Yeah, we can read some chats and then we'll close out and do the after hours.
01:00:48.000 Mr. Clap Cheeks.
01:00:49.000 Free Tates and most importantly, Free Diddy.
01:00:51.000 This is like a problem.
01:00:51.000 Yo, come on.
01:00:52.000 Bro, Yo, come on, man.
01:00:56.000 Justin Town Boston Man Act.
01:00:58.000 He's trolling.
01:01:00.000 Well, I do think it's important people realize, though, that, like, Diddy was not convicted of trafficking, guys.
01:01:05.000 He was convicted of only.
01:01:06.000 Being a freak.
01:01:07.000 He won. 0.79
01:01:08.000 Trafficking.
01:01:08.000 He basically won.
01:01:09.000 Like.
01:01:10.000 When they brought all the.
01:01:11.000 Because I was there for the trial.
01:01:14.000 You know, Cassie and all the main witnesses against him that said he was human trafficking them.
01:01:17.000 It was all proven to be consensual, dude.
01:01:19.000 Like, on cross examination, Diddy's lawyers really embarrassed him.
01:01:22.000 And think about what you're saying.
01:01:24.000 And that was with all that evidence.
01:01:26.000 Yeah. 0.93
01:01:26.000 With the universal allegations against Andrew and Tristan, there's not even a damn bottle of baby lotion. 0.93
01:01:32.000 Yeah. 0.97
01:01:32.000 Baby oil. 0.97
01:01:33.000 Baby oil. 0.76
01:01:33.000 Yeah. 0.76
01:01:34.000 No baby oil. 0.99
01:01:35.000 No baby oil. 1.00
01:01:36.000 Damn. 1.00
01:01:36.000 Guys, the whole freak off thing or whatever, dude, I was there at the trial. 1.00
01:01:39.000 It was a bunch of BS, man. 0.88
01:01:40.000 Really, what went down is like, you got a guy who was very perverted and does.
01:01:44.000 Strange things. 0.99
01:01:46.000 But the thing they actually convicted him on was paying for male hookers to come in and have sex with Cassie. 0.98
01:01:50.000 That's what they actually convicted him on. 0.96
01:01:51.000 She actually convicted him on.
01:01:52.000 She actually convicted him on.
01:01:53.000 She loved it.
01:01:53.000 Her friends that she lives here in Florida, and I was talking about the whole situation, she wanted it so bad.
01:01:59.000 She's going to sought out all these guys because she wanted the BBC.
01:02:03.000 She set up everything. 1.00
01:02:04.000 She would be the ones to pay them and call them and set up everything, dude. 1.00
01:02:07.000 And she did this for years. 0.99
01:02:09.000 And that's why Diddy didn't get convicted of that.
01:02:12.000 So it is important for people to realize that, look, you don't have to like Diddy, whatever, that's fine.
01:02:15.000 But understand that he's not a human trafficker, technically.
01:02:19.000 It's what happened he just brought these dudes in to smash his chick. 0.96
01:02:23.000 And it was interstate transport of prostitutes. 0.99
01:02:25.000 That is weird, though. 0.96
01:02:27.000 That is weird.
01:02:27.000 Where did they pick him up again?
01:02:28.000 That's very weird. 0.95
01:02:29.000 The prostitutes? 0.73
01:02:31.000 No, did he? 0.94
01:02:32.000 When he got pinched initially?
01:02:33.000 Oh, they picked him up on human trafficking, Rico, whatever location.
01:02:37.000 New York, right?
01:02:37.000 I think they picked him up in Miami.
01:02:38.000 From Miami or New York?
01:02:40.000 They arrested him in New York, but they were using it was like LA, Miami, but it was Southern District of New York that did the case, yeah.
01:02:45.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:02:46.000 Yeah, New York.
01:02:48.000 But yeah, they were using all these different locations.
01:02:50.000 Okay, does England want round two or what? 0.94
01:02:52.000 Oh, if only the government went this hard on the Epstein list. 0.91
01:02:54.000 Yeah, bro, that's strange.
01:02:56.000 And yeah, like I said, guys, they tried this before already and he beat the charges.
01:02:59.000 Like, they took his phones and everything.
01:03:01.000 This is not like new.
01:03:05.000 If there's no bill, unfortunately, what are the chances of getting the bros in the same cell so they can be, so at least be together?
01:03:13.000 We'll see what we can do.
01:03:13.000 I tell you, if they go to England, they'll probably send them to two different parts of the country.
01:03:17.000 Yeah. 0.60
01:03:17.000 Wow. 0.60
01:03:18.000 Yeah, they're going to do it.
01:03:18.000 Yeah.
01:03:19.000 Yeah, they'll do that.
01:03:20.000 Yeah.
01:03:22.000 All I know is the Trump admin better help out because the Tates have been supporting them for a long time.
01:03:26.000 I agree.
01:03:27.000 And they are a big reason he's president again.
01:03:28.000 If anyone knows more about false accusations, is there any update on that?
01:03:32.000 Fair.
01:03:32.000 Well, right now it's premature for the administration to get involved.
01:03:36.000 If we don't, if it doesn't work out for us in the district court, we need to be respectful of that process.
01:03:41.000 But say it doesn't work out there, Marco Rubio needs to certify.
01:03:45.000 So that would be a question for the administration.
01:03:47.000 And we will say that's way down the line.
01:03:49.000 No, that's 60 days from now.
01:03:50.000 Yeah.
01:03:51.000 Yeah.
01:03:51.000 Well, I mean, as in like 60 days from the 18th.
01:03:53.000 Yeah.
01:03:54.000 So that's a month and a half.
01:03:57.000 So if we get to that point, The bros don't go unless the administration rubber stamps it.
01:04:03.000 If the administration rubber stamps it, I mean, how do you win the next election without we have to be training the manosphere just as it happened?
01:04:10.000 Well, I'll say this, bro.
01:04:11.000 Uh, Rugby did say in the interview that he's not being involved until proceedings are done.
01:04:15.000 Well, he was playing, he was, I saw his interview, he was role, he was definitely downplaying like his influence.
01:04:20.000 Like, bro, you're going to be the final say, yeah.
01:04:22.000 And when this is all said and done, as he should, yeah, with all due respect to him and Trump right now, look, we could win on the 13th and they could be out and everything could change and they could get their day in court.
01:04:31.000 In Florida, and they'd be extradited to Romania.
01:04:34.000 And hey, if that's what happens, that's great. 0.76
01:04:36.000 Yeah.
01:04:37.000 But if it gets to the point where that doesn't happen and Rubio needs to make a decision, well, then that's a, that'll be an argument and the advocacy for another day.
01:04:44.000 Yeah.
01:04:44.000 That would be, yeah.
01:04:46.000 I hope he does the right thing.
01:04:46.000 You know what I mean?
01:04:47.000 Because that would set a horrible precedent sending U.S. citizens over to England, you know, for. 0.81
01:04:51.000 Yeah.
01:04:52.000 We'll see what happens. 0.98
01:04:55.000 I know this has nothing to do with the subject matter, but I wanted to let you know that Spotify's audiobooks, I would like to see why women deserve less on a catalog other than that for the taste.
01:05:03.000 I'll talk with. 0.90
01:05:05.000 We're bred about that.
01:05:06.000 And we need to give you guys an audio version of the book as well.
01:05:08.000 So, anything else?
01:05:10.000 No?
01:05:11.000 That's it.
01:05:11.000 All right, cool.
01:05:12.000 I guess, Joe, what could the audience do to help Andrew and Tristan at this point?
01:05:16.000 They want to help out.
01:05:18.000 Maybe they could show up for one of the hearings or what could they do?
01:05:21.000 Yeah, so three things.
01:05:22.000 Number one, don't be afraid to speak about this at your dinner table with your friends at work or with your friends online.
01:05:30.000 The Constitution applies to everyone or applies to no one.
01:05:32.000 So, speak out against what's going on because it's wrong.
01:05:35.000 Number two, we have our bail hearing on the 14th, and we would love to see people come out and help us.
01:05:42.000 So that would be right.
01:05:43.000 14, not the 13th.
01:05:44.000 Sorry, the 13th.
01:05:45.000 Hey, August 13th.
01:05:46.000 Thank you very much.
01:05:46.000 The next day would be no good.
01:05:47.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:05:48.000 So come out August 13th, and there's a crowd right there formulating.
01:05:53.000 We had about 15 people out there today on the corner of Northeast First and Northeast Fifth Street.
01:05:58.000 That's where the brothers can see you from their cell.
01:06:00.000 But on the day of the hearing, come out and exercise your First Amendment right to protest injustice and stand with the brothers in front of the court.
01:06:07.000 And I'll tell you guys right now here's the announcement August 13th, 11 a.m., we will be out there. 0.98
01:06:13.000 I'll be out there with the fucking megaphone. 0.95
01:06:14.000 We're going to make sure that we get justice for the bros and hopefully we get a favorable outcome to the hearing. 0.99
01:06:21.000 So I will be out there at 11 a.m., fresh.
01:06:24.000 All of you guys come out.
01:06:25.000 Come join us, man.
01:06:25.000 August 13th, 11 a.m., we'll be out there in front of the courthouse.
01:06:29.000 The hearing's at 1, so we'll be out there.
01:06:31.000 11 a.m.
01:06:33.000 We'll be out there at 11, but the hearing's at 1 p.m., right?
01:06:36.000 Yes, sir.
01:06:36.000 Yeah, so we'll be out there beforehand.
01:06:38.000 Yep.
01:06:39.000 11 a.m., August 13th.
01:06:40.000 Mark your calendars, guys.
01:06:41.000 We'll be out there.
01:06:42.000 You guys ask me, yo, are you going to do something?
01:06:44.000 Are you guys going to be out there?
01:06:46.000 Yes, I will be out there.
01:06:48.000 And remember, this is a fight for free speech more than anything else.
01:06:51.000 Yeah.
01:06:51.000 And just last thing with regard to free speech, there's a lot of people making videos online, chopping up.
01:06:56.000 Clips, making pro take videos, continue to do that.
01:06:59.000 There are two Muslim guys out here, two young Muslim brothers today.
01:07:02.000 I met them.
01:07:03.000 They had the video where they filmed Andrew in the window the other day.
01:07:07.000 That's gone viral.
01:07:09.000 Anybody who's participating in that stuff, we really, really appreciate it.
01:07:12.000 It helps and dominate the algorithms because we're fighting suppression.
01:07:18.000 That's it.
01:07:18.000 For sure.
01:07:19.000 So, yeah, guys, August 13th, 11 a.m., market calendars are going to be down there, downtown Miami, at the federal courthouse.
01:07:24.000 The hearing is going to be at one, but we will be out there rallying two hours beforehand.
01:07:29.000 I'll be out there.
01:07:29.000 Let's get hundreds, hundreds of people out there.
01:07:32.000 You guys ask me, yo, are you guys going to do something?
01:07:34.000 There you go.
01:07:34.000 There's your day.
01:07:35.000 August 13th, 11 a.m.
01:07:37.000 Joe, where can the people find you, if anything?
01:07:39.000 Obviously, you're a fantastic lawyer.
01:07:41.000 You know, I know you're very busy right now.
01:07:43.000 You might not, people might not be able to retain you, but, you know, they want to.
01:07:46.000 The easiest way to find me on social media is at McBrideLawNYC across all social media platforms.
01:07:53.000 McBrideLawNYC.com.
01:07:54.000 My email address is there.
01:07:56.000 The Tate Legal address.
01:07:58.000 We're taking emails there, tips.
01:08:00.000 And all that stuff, people who want to help in any way that they can.
01:08:04.000 We put out, one of the other affiliates put out an email address for people to write, Andrew and Tristan in jail.
01:08:09.000 So those letters are going to them through our own process.
01:08:15.000 So show your support.
01:08:17.000 I am McBride, LawNYC, across all social media platforms.
01:08:20.000 Please like and follow.
01:08:22.000 And a couple months ago, I started the Judgment Day podcast on YouTube.
01:08:26.000 That's a slow drip on YouTube, as you know.
01:08:29.000 But we're talking about some good stuff there.
01:08:31.000 And right now, we're focused on the brothers for sure.
01:08:34.000 Good.
01:08:34.000 Also, one last thing.
01:08:36.000 What shouldn't people do right now that would actually hurt the case?
01:08:40.000 Because, you know, what they should do, what shouldn't they do in this case?
01:08:45.000 They shouldn't call for violence.
01:08:47.000 Yes.
01:08:48.000 They should be real thoughtful and considerate about how they talk about the current judge, no matter what the situation is, or the prosecutors.
01:08:57.000 We don't want, sometimes in earlier cases, they have accused Andrew and Tristan's followers of intimidation tactics.
01:09:04.000 So we don't want that.
01:09:05.000 What we want is a meaningful, Gathering online and in front of the courthouse to exercise your First Amendment rights.
01:09:12.000 You can come with a bullhorn, you can come with a sign, you can be as loud as you want, but if counter protesters show up or people try to bait you online, just don't feed into the bait.
01:09:21.000 People try to drag you into the mud.
01:09:23.000 Don't do that stuff.
01:09:26.000 Make it sophisticated.
01:09:28.000 Cloak yourself in the First Amendment.
01:09:30.000 Don't break any laws.
01:09:31.000 Don't insult anybody.
01:09:32.000 Do the right thing.
01:09:33.000 Support us the right way.
01:09:34.000 Pray for us, and we will appreciate it.
01:09:36.000 All right.
01:09:37.000 Awesome.
01:09:37.000 All right, guys.
01:09:37.000 We'll be back with some lovely ladies here in a little bit.
01:09:40.000 Peace. 0.99
01:09:40.000 Peace. 0.99