Fresh & Fit - August 28, 2024


Telegram Founder ARRESTED In France!


Episode Stats

Length

3 hours and 39 minutes

Words per Minute

177.00798

Word Count

38,809

Sentence Count

3,629

Misogynist Sentences

115

Hate Speech Sentences

126


Summary

On this episode of The Pressure Podcast on a Tuesday, we are joined by Andrew Wilson and Hazalden to discuss the latest in the news, including Trump's new indictments, Andrew Tate's new indictment, and Marcus Houston's new deal with the government. We also talk about the debate between Andrew Tate and Donald Trump and why he should have been allowed to vote for President Trump. We also discuss why we should all boycott the 2020 Democratic National Convention and why it s a waste of money. We finish up the episode with a quick announcement from our sponsor, Naked Organs! Be Naked! is pure strength in a capsule packed with nutrient-rich bison organs loaded with vitamin B12, vitamin D, iron, and C0Q10 to fuel energy, support muscle recovery, and enhance overall vitality. No additives, no preservatives, just raw natural power designed to keep you at your peak. Get ready to experience the power of Bison by Naked Organisms by Real Men. Bison are raised in rugged environments where only the toughest survive. They re built for strength, endurance, and resilience, delivering concentrated nutrients to boost energy, speed recovery and keep your testosterone dialed in. And we need to back it up! If you ve been feeling low on energy, lacking that drive, or just not performing at your best in life, it s time to level up. Click the link in the bio or go to Be Naked. Organs. and get 15% off your next purchase! Click the code FRESH, and you re gonna be 15% OFF your first box! Subscribe to our newsletter! Subscribe to be the first to know when the next Fresh Fit Podcast episode is available. Subscribe and receive 15% discount code: FRESHFIT! Get 15% Off your first week of Fresh Fit, and get 20% off the entire month of your first pack! Want to become a member of the Fresh Fit Club? Subscribe, rate, rate and review the show, and receive 5% off of the next month, plus a FREE shipping offer, and a discount on your first month, and more! FREE shipping throughout the rest of the month of the entire year, plus an additional 3 months, plus free shipping and shipping, plus all other perks throughout the world, plus the chance to receive an ad-free version of the podcast, and much more, and an additional discount on the next year of the show next month!


Transcript

00:23:31.000 And we are live.
00:23:32.000 What's up, guys?
00:23:32.000 Welcome to the Pressure Podcast on a Tuesday, man.
00:23:34.000 We're going to be talking about the news, guys, because we had an important debate yesterday.
00:23:37.000 Let's get into it.
00:23:38.000 Let's go!
00:24:24.000 Now we'll never talk siren.
00:24:27.000 Pushes in.
00:24:28.000 Alright, we are live.
00:24:29.000 What's up, guys?
00:24:29.000 Welcome to the Fresh Fit Podcast, man, a.k.a.
00:24:31.000 we're live on a Tuesday.
00:24:32.000 It's been a while since we've been live on a Tuesday.
00:24:34.000 We're going to be covering the news for you guys.
00:24:36.000 We're here with Haas and Andrew Wilson.
00:24:37.000 I'm excited for a quick announcement against the show, guys.
00:24:39.000 Rumble.com slash Fresh Fit.
00:24:41.000 As you guys know, that is the home base for us.
00:24:43.000 Also, CalsClub.tv, guys.
00:24:44.000 Join up.
00:24:45.000 We're almost 7,000 members strong in there, man.
00:24:47.000 We do Zoom calls on there.
00:24:49.000 We do Q&As.
00:24:50.000 We have a bunch of different chapters where you guys can go ahead and join your local chapter and meet with like-minded guys, man.
00:24:55.000 So if you don't have to deal with a lot of these...
00:25:01.000 We're good to go.
00:25:14.000 What's his name?
00:25:15.000 Durov?
00:25:16.000 You don't know?
00:25:17.000 That's his name, Durov, right?
00:25:18.000 Real quick, before we get into it, I'll just get a quick word from our sponsor, and then we'll get into the news.
00:25:23.000 Oh, you guys got to set it up?
00:25:24.000 Yeah.
00:25:25.000 Okay, that's fine.
00:25:25.000 Go ahead.
00:25:26.000 What were you going to say?
00:25:27.000 I'm just saying today's topics, basically.
00:25:28.000 Oh, go ahead.
00:25:29.000 Yeah.
00:25:29.000 No, so we're covering Trump, his new indictment.
00:25:33.000 Telegram CEO. Yeah, Pavel?
00:25:37.000 Pavlov.
00:25:38.000 Yeah.
00:25:39.000 That's the name, right?
00:25:39.000 Pavel.
00:25:40.000 I think it's Pavel.
00:25:40.000 Pavel, there you go.
00:25:41.000 Lovely.
00:25:42.000 Yeah.
00:25:43.000 That's pretty much it, though.
00:25:46.000 Freshman, what the fuck, bro?
00:25:47.000 What the fuck, man?
00:25:50.000 Yeah, guys, we're gonna be covering a bunch of stuff, man.
00:25:52.000 We're gonna be covering...
00:25:53.000 Trump just got hit with a superseding indictment.
00:25:55.000 We're gonna talk about the Telegram CEO. We're gonna talk about Andrew Tate.
00:25:57.000 We're gonna talk about...
00:26:00.000 RFK joining the campaign with Donald Trump, which that was huge as well.
00:26:04.000 We're going to talk about the girl that was with the Telegram CEO. We're going to talk about Marcus Houston.
00:26:08.000 We've got a lot to talk about, man, so don't worry about it.
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00:27:21.000 But yeah.
00:27:21.000 So we got a bunch of different things that we're going to cover today.
00:27:23.000 And then yeah, can you guys introduce yourselves to the people?
00:27:25.000 We know who you are, but...
00:27:27.000 Yeah, I'm Hazaldeen.
00:27:29.000 I'm executive chairman of the American Communist Party, host of the Infrared Show.
00:27:35.000 Ah, my name is Andrew Wilson, host of the Crucible, chairman of the Fuck Communist Party.
00:27:42.000 So that's, you can find me over there on the Crucible.
00:27:47.000 I always like to do with chairman.
00:27:48.000 Chairman's such a great, what a great thing to say about it.
00:27:51.000 I'm the chairman.
00:27:52.000 But yesterday, who won that debate?
00:27:55.000 Definitely me, for sure.
00:27:56.000 I mean, no questions asked.
00:27:58.000 It's me.
00:27:59.000 For sure.
00:28:00.000 Well, the comments were split.
00:28:02.000 You know, obviously, that's how you know it's a good debate when, you know, the comment section there, there's like a war going on in there.
00:28:09.000 But I'll tell you guys this.
00:28:10.000 So, guys, quick little announcement for you guys.
00:28:13.000 Haas is going to actually stay in Miami a little bit longer.
00:28:15.000 We're going to go ahead and have a debate for you guys on communism versus capitalism.
00:28:19.000 That's it, on Thursday, okay?
00:28:20.000 So it's going to be really, you know, more focused.
00:28:23.000 Obviously that debate was on morality, Christianity, Islam.
00:28:27.000 We talked about communism versus capitalism a little bit, but on Thursday we're going to do the debate that's focused on capitalism versus communism.
00:28:36.000 We're going to talk about the economic ramifications of both.
00:28:38.000 Why one part...
00:28:40.000 Might be better than other, and we're going to focus on that.
00:28:42.000 We're going to come up with some questions and some time rounds, etc., then obviously open it up for some dialogue.
00:28:47.000 So it'll be a good debate.
00:28:48.000 That'll be on Thursday at 8 p.m.
00:28:50.000 work for you guys?
00:28:51.000 Yeah, it works.
00:28:51.000 8 or 9 p.m.
00:28:52.000 on Thursday.
00:28:54.000 And then tomorrow we're going to drop the Dan Bilzane interview for you guys.
00:28:57.000 The full version is going to be on Rumble for obvious reasons, but it's going to be on YouTube and on Rumble.
00:29:01.000 Because we talked about certain things that will only be on Rumble.
00:29:04.000 And I think you guys know what I'm talking about.
00:29:06.000 So, what else?
00:29:08.000 And then...
00:29:09.000 I'm trying to think if...
00:29:10.000 What else?
00:29:11.000 Any more interviews?
00:29:12.000 No, Hodgkin's already dropped, right?
00:29:14.000 Yeah, we live-streamed the Hodgkin's one.
00:29:15.000 Go check that one out.
00:29:16.000 You guys really enjoyed that one, man.
00:29:17.000 I think their interview of me is going to come out soon as well.
00:29:20.000 So I did an interview with them, and then I came back the next day and I live-streamed with them.
00:29:22.000 They are some laid-back, cool guys.
00:29:24.000 Yeah, they're very funny.
00:29:25.000 Just talking real talk.
00:29:25.000 They're funny, man.
00:29:26.000 Yeah, we made a lot of jokes.
00:29:27.000 It was a good time.
00:29:28.000 So go make sure to check them out.
00:29:30.000 TwinsPod is where it's at.
00:29:31.000 But anyway, we'll open up with the first story.
00:29:34.000 You can hit up the Trump indictment first.
00:29:36.000 So, this is crazy.
00:29:38.000 Shout out to Laura Loomer for breaking this.
00:29:40.000 She's always real quick when it comes to breaking anything that deals with Trump.
00:29:43.000 Jack Smith's grand jury has brought a new superseding indictment against President Donald Trump in an effort to interfere in the 2024 election.
00:29:50.000 Jack Smith is trying to work around the July 1st SCOTUS ruling on presidential immunity.
00:29:56.000 And I think it's very important for you guys to understand Just to give you guys a quick little overview of his criminal case, I'm going to turn it to the panelists.
00:30:03.000 Trump has been indicted in four different jurisdictions, okay?
00:30:06.000 He got indicted in the state of New York for the business records stuff that he got convicted of for 34 counts.
00:30:13.000 He got indicted in the District of Columbia, as you guys can see here, federally, for these violations that you see right there, conspiracy to defraud, blah, blah, blah, all that.
00:30:21.000 Then he also got indicted in the Southern District of Florida, Miami Division, for...
00:30:26.000 Either way, I think it was Miami Division for the documents case, and then he got indicted out of Georgia for the RICO case for very similar charges to this when they alleged that he tried to throw the election.
00:30:36.000 And that's when him and all his lawyers got indicted too.
00:30:38.000 Giuliani, etc., they all got indicted.
00:30:40.000 So he's getting charged in four different jurisdictions, two state cases, two federal cases.
00:30:44.000 If I'm not mistaken, the case down in Florida has pretty much been thrown out.
00:30:49.000 The judge...
00:30:51.000 He said that there was no basis to appoint Jack Smith to charge him in the first place, so therefore it's unconstitutional.
00:30:57.000 But you can see here Jack Smith has went ahead and filed a superseding indictment on the case in Washington, D.C., which a superseding indictment, guys, just means that they pretty much beefed up the charges or came with new charges, and now the charges that were on before, they're being either upgraded and or new charges are being added.
00:31:13.000 That's a superseding indictment.
00:31:14.000 So that comes in and takes over the old charge, and obviously in the United States an indictment, guys, is a formal charge Buy a grand jury of your peers where you're formally charged by the government.
00:31:25.000 And this is a federal case.
00:31:26.000 I've explained how the grand jury process works and how you get indicted in the United States before.
00:31:30.000 If you guys really want me to explain it again, I can.
00:31:32.000 But I'm going to turn it to the panels here and see what their thoughts are.
00:31:36.000 Yeah, so it's no shock to me.
00:31:39.000 The Democrats will continue to throw everything they can at Trump.
00:31:43.000 And any time you look behind any of these indictments, by the way, it's always Democrats who are behind them.
00:31:48.000 They're always pushed by leftists.
00:31:51.000 And most of the charges are usually bullshit.
00:31:54.000 Almost, I would say, every single time they're bullshit.
00:31:58.000 Everything from the jury selection, everything...
00:32:02.000 Is hand-coordinated to take Trump out of this race.
00:32:08.000 Some of the most biased jurisdictions for this.
00:32:11.000 All Democrat strongholds.
00:32:13.000 There is no fucking way that they're going to let Trump win this election.
00:32:17.000 They're just not going to do it.
00:32:18.000 Democrats are never going to do it.
00:32:19.000 Not in a million years.
00:32:20.000 They don't want him back in there.
00:32:21.000 They want Kamala Harris in there.
00:32:23.000 And I think both sides, I think the Republicans would prefer to have her in there too.
00:32:27.000 It is all out, get Trump.
00:32:29.000 That is what this is.
00:32:30.000 Did you hear that they cleared some vet space and space firm in Rikers in September?
00:32:34.000 Really?
00:32:35.000 Yeah, I heard.
00:32:36.000 So he's actually being sent to prison?
00:32:39.000 There's a high likelihood.
00:32:40.000 For the New York case where he got convicted for the false business documents, they were clearing space for him at Rikers.
00:32:47.000 Well, you know, you have to think about it.
00:32:49.000 I don't want to get too paranoid and too conspiratorial, but would that really hurt him that much?
00:32:56.000 That's a good question.
00:32:57.000 Because, you know, here's the thing.
00:32:58.000 Trump right now, he's very low energy.
00:32:59.000 He's very old news.
00:33:01.000 He's very kind of, he's lost his edge.
00:33:04.000 And a sitting president running from prison, it's like that brings some new excitement to it.
00:33:11.000 It could reinvigorate his voters.
00:33:13.000 It could make him more appealing to people.
00:33:15.000 I think it'll help him.
00:33:16.000 I agree with you.
00:33:17.000 I think so, too.
00:33:17.000 I think him going to Rikers will help him, if anything.
00:33:21.000 That's why I think it's not going to happen.
00:33:24.000 But we'll help enough, though.
00:33:25.000 I think with Trump where he's at right now, his reputation is ruined.
00:33:28.000 And let's say, for example, the majority of voters are going to be women.
00:33:30.000 They're going to say, oh, he's a felon, even though they don't know what's going on completely.
00:33:34.000 It's like, they're going to judge him based off of these charges alone.
00:33:36.000 And it's like, at that point, who's going to vote for him?
00:33:39.000 I mean, like...
00:33:40.000 Obviously people that...
00:33:42.000 If Trump's in prison, it'll limit his access to media.
00:33:46.000 And the one thing that the media establishment fears, and they've talked about this many, many times, the media blames themselves for Trump winning the first time around.
00:33:55.000 Because he got billions and billions of dollars in free advertisement, even if it was negative journalism against him.
00:34:01.000 Everybody was always talking about Donald Trump.
00:34:04.000 It was very entertaining.
00:34:05.000 People enjoyed watching it.
00:34:07.000 The media blamed themselves for this.
00:34:09.000 And there is a very real fear, and they talk about this, of Trump kind of igniting a media firestorm again, where these people just cannot help themselves but write story after story after story about Trump.
00:34:22.000 And he has not thus far been able to capitalize on that political advantage, I think because he has really bad advisers.
00:34:29.000 But he could.
00:34:30.000 He could start the rallying again and he could say some inflammatory shit.
00:34:36.000 Every mass media everywhere would be writing about this guy, giving him that same kind of boost that he had during his original election.
00:34:45.000 I'm looking at the average voter's mindset and they're going to think to themselves, look, as a criminal, I don't want to rule over this country.
00:34:50.000 I think he's a bad person.
00:34:51.000 Just because he's charged with these charges, right?
00:34:54.000 My thing is, like, the majority of voters are going to be women.
00:34:56.000 That's the crazy part.
00:34:58.000 I think the issue with Trump this time around is that, first of all, the things he said in 2015-2016 were unprecedented for a serious presidential candidate, at least in this century.
00:35:11.000 I'm sure there were crazy presidents before saying outrageous things to the public's sensibilities.
00:35:18.000 Andrew Jackson was one of them, wasn't he?
00:35:19.000 Yeah, that's literally what I was thinking of.
00:35:22.000 Not sure I'd say he's crazy.
00:35:25.000 No, no, no.
00:35:26.000 He dueled and killed people, right?
00:35:28.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:35:29.000 He was one of the first presidents that would...
00:35:30.000 If I'm not mistaken, it was Angela White-Jackson?
00:35:32.000 Sorry, go ahead.
00:35:33.000 Not every president was like a queen cut in a suit.
00:35:36.000 Wasn't that Alexander...
00:35:37.000 Wasn't that Hamilton and Burr?
00:35:39.000 Let me look it up.
00:35:40.000 I think it's Andrew Jackson that would challenge the visuals.
00:35:42.000 Put it this way.
00:35:44.000 In the post-war period, let's say, I don't think, I mean, maybe Nixon's an exception, but even then he was very tame.
00:35:50.000 Trump, I mean, he was a reality TV host.
00:35:52.000 He was saying all these things that were super politically incorrect at the time, and everyone was just shocked by it, right?
00:35:58.000 The shock factor's gone, I think.
00:36:00.000 I think if he would have said the same thing that he said in 2015-2016 right now, it's not going to have the same effect because we're already accustomed to it.
00:36:09.000 We've already endured four years of Trump.
00:36:12.000 Now, here's what I think, though.
00:36:14.000 He could have a chance of winning, I think, this is my opinion, if he understood what exact base is actually going to get him elected.
00:36:23.000 And it's the base that cared about things like NAFTA. It's the base in the Rust Belt that cares about trade.
00:36:28.000 These people are very politically apathetic a lot of the times.
00:36:31.000 But he managed to mobilize them and get them out to vote in 2016.
00:36:34.000 You know, the blue-collar working class in the Midwest and elsewhere.
00:36:38.000 And for some reason, he's not aware that that is what actually got him the presidency in 2016.
00:36:45.000 And this time around, he's not really...
00:36:49.000 He's more moderate now.
00:36:51.000 Well, he's a typical Republican now.
00:36:53.000 He's calling Kamala a communist.
00:36:54.000 That's his edge now.
00:36:56.000 I mean, that's like some shit we would get from the Tea Party or from Mitt Romney or something, you know?
00:37:02.000 It's like, he's not...
00:37:04.000 His advisors, they really are screwing him over.
00:37:07.000 You make a valid point that we do want the 2016 Trump.
00:37:15.000 That's what we want.
00:37:16.000 We want this guy to be out there saying, no, build a wall.
00:37:20.000 Build the wall.
00:37:21.000 Throw the illegals out.
00:37:22.000 Screw these people.
00:37:24.000 Empty the swamp.
00:37:26.000 Empty the deep state.
00:37:28.000 Let's get into that.
00:37:29.000 He's not doing that.
00:37:31.000 What his advisors are telling him is, look, the Republicans don't have the numbers.
00:37:35.000 They don't have the numbers anymore to win elections.
00:37:38.000 Objectively, that's kind of true.
00:37:40.000 They really don't have the numbers anymore to win elections.
00:37:42.000 So, what he's trying to do is he's trying to do what all Republicans before him have done, and open this up into big tent Republicanism, move towards LGBTQ, move more towards the female vote.
00:37:55.000 He wants to mobilize that female vote, and he wants to mobilize it in a big way.
00:37:59.000 I think the problem with Trump, the reason the Trump phenomena of 2016 will never come back, I think it's had its due, it's done, you know?
00:38:08.000 And the reason for that is because We're good to go.
00:38:34.000 Trump was very domesticated and very tamed during that administration, and he's even doubled down in that direction this time around.
00:38:41.000 And in 2020, you know, he failed.
00:38:43.000 Well, he was hamstrung.
00:38:45.000 They did everything that they could to hamstring him.
00:38:47.000 They had false investigations, multiple impeachments.
00:38:50.000 The guy was not allowed to do a fucking thing.
00:38:52.000 Anytime he moved any type of policy forward, there was a collaboration to destroy his entire life.
00:38:59.000 Every single time.
00:39:00.000 How are you going to impeach this guy in two false impeachments?
00:39:03.000 Two false impeachments they knew wouldn't go anywhere just to drag the circus along to stop his administration from moving forward the legislation that he wanted.
00:39:11.000 The guy was totally hamstrung.
00:39:13.000 Many political pundits at the time were saying, even Democrat political pundits, man, they really just need to leave this guy alone so that he can at least try to move some of these changes forward, and then you can criticize him on the changes.
00:39:26.000 To your point, I think the Trump back in 2016 gave shock value and he actually gave people what they wanted, which was the change.
00:39:34.000 He sounded different, he had that appeal, and he was, like you said, shock value.
00:39:38.000 But he's been through a lot, you said earlier, bro.
00:39:40.000 He's been through a lot.
00:39:41.000 I mean, any human being that's been through what he's been through would probably either commit suicide or even say, you know what, I'm done with this shit, I'm over it.
00:39:47.000 So, by default, he's going to be a different person because he's been through a lot.
00:39:50.000 Now, granted, though, people do want the old Trump for 2016, but with that word nowadays, I don't think so.
00:39:55.000 Well, yeah, I mean, if you're Trump, look at it from Trump's position.
00:39:58.000 You're a multi-billionaire, right?
00:40:00.000 And you were kind of beloved by the population before you ever ran for presidency.
00:40:05.000 Nobody was out there calling Trump a racist or a sexist or anything before the election.
00:40:09.000 He was kind of known far and wide by almost every celebrity.
00:40:13.000 They all loved him.
00:40:13.000 They were all good, close friends with him, this type of thing.
00:40:17.000 From his perspective...
00:40:17.000 Yeah, this was huge in the 2000s.
00:40:19.000 Yeah, from his perspective, he goes, yeah, fuck this.
00:40:22.000 I'm going to go enjoy my billions and humping Melania every day and fuck all you people.
00:40:27.000 You almost can't blame the guy, right?
00:40:29.000 You almost can't blame the guy.
00:40:30.000 You know, the issue, though, is that he was faced with a choice.
00:40:35.000 You know, let's just say being charitable.
00:40:37.000 He realized he's under attack from all directions, so what does he do?
00:40:40.000 He doubles down...
00:40:41.000 Or he doesn't double down, sorry.
00:40:42.000 He...
00:40:43.000 He focuses on the allies he can make within the Republican establishment in order to protect him.
00:40:48.000 That's always been his strategy.
00:40:49.000 But I think he should have taken more risks.
00:40:53.000 He should have tried to cultivate his actual new movement more.
00:40:56.000 Because the MAGA voters in 2016 were not your typical Republican electorate.
00:41:01.000 It was a new type of political beginning.
00:41:04.000 These people used to vote for Obama, actually.
00:41:06.000 A lot of them used to vote Democrat.
00:41:23.000 I mean, especially now he's faced the pressure legally.
00:41:28.000 He's really, really doubled down in that direction of really trying to Well, it created...
00:41:33.000 He had an impossible task going in that he needed the Republican establishment to help him push his agenda forward.
00:41:40.000 He had to have that.
00:41:41.000 And whoever he brought into his administration was not going to have the same type of political power as the establishment who was there.
00:41:47.000 These are the same guys who have been putting the, what you would call the deep state, which is just lifelong officials, which are in appointed positions.
00:41:55.000 The current Congress knows who all of these people are.
00:41:58.000 Many times they appointed them themselves.
00:42:01.000 He needs the establishment, which is there, to move his agenda forward.
00:42:04.000 He needed that.
00:42:05.000 So he was trying to make deals, cut deals with them, because that's what he is as a dealmaker.
00:42:09.000 How could he have brought in his own people into these keynote positions?
00:42:15.000 He still would have had to work with the establishment Republicans.
00:42:19.000 Maybe this is going far beyond the pale as far as what he even understood his mission was.
00:42:26.000 He should have done the absolute most to cause as much chaos as he possibly could while he was in that administration.
00:42:35.000 Although he should have done the most he could have, not in order to see through his policies and his agendas, because it's not going to happen.
00:42:44.000 This is an issue of sovereignty.
00:42:46.000 The government right now is occupied by a deep state.
00:42:48.000 It's not accountable to the public.
00:42:50.000 It's not something we can elect.
00:42:51.000 It's not something we can vote for.
00:42:53.000 So, if you're going to go against them in any kind of way, you better prepare for war.
00:42:57.000 And that's what it is.
00:42:58.000 It's a war.
00:42:59.000 And what's the conclusion of that war?
00:43:00.000 It's maybe something a little more radical than, you know, what we could expect from elections.
00:43:05.000 It's a systemic breakdown.
00:43:06.000 It's a breakdown of the...
00:43:07.000 I mean, I know I sound fucking crazy right now, but it's like...
00:43:10.000 It doesn't sound crazy because it's true.
00:43:11.000 But the thing is, is all the defectors who are there, the deep state...
00:43:16.000 And this was stated to Trump multiple times.
00:43:19.000 Schumer said it himself.
00:43:21.000 If you go against the intelligence community, they have a, what did he say?
00:43:25.000 A thousand and one ways to make you pay.
00:43:27.000 And he's not kidding.
00:43:28.000 He's saying, look, these people can dig up dirt you never even thought.
00:43:32.000 You forgot about this shit.
00:43:33.000 But Trump had the people on his side.
00:43:35.000 But the thing is that once the media realized its mistake of if you run Trump news 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, that's really, really bad for you because it just draws all attention to Trump.
00:43:49.000 Everybody wants to hear everything Trump has to say.
00:43:52.000 Even if they hate him, they want to hear what he has to say.
00:43:54.000 Once the media figured this mistake out and started backing off on the 24-hour Trump coverage and Trump bashing, that was the worst thing that ever happened to Trump.
00:44:02.000 Well, isn't it also true that there was alternative media that started getting developed at this time where people weren't really looking to mainstream media anymore for answers?
00:44:10.000 Yeah.
00:44:10.000 I mean, I think there was a whole new movement that was going on.
00:44:13.000 Yeah, that's true.
00:44:14.000 And he didn't do enough to develop it or invest it.
00:44:16.000 Yeah, I agree with that.
00:44:24.000 I agree with all of that.
00:44:40.000 They are entrenched in power, and if you want to move a legislative agenda forward, unfortunately you have to deal with them.
00:44:46.000 There's no way around that.
00:44:47.000 I don't see how you get around that.
00:44:48.000 Yeah, it's an unnecessary evil.
00:44:50.000 It's a necessary evil to deal with, which kind of sucks.
00:44:53.000 But no, I mean, I think what you were saying before, as far as, like, his approach to politics was unprecedented in 2016.
00:45:00.000 He came in as a businessman.
00:45:02.000 He was saying all kinds of stuff.
00:45:03.000 He wasn't politically correct.
00:45:04.000 And I think it was a stark contrast to Obama, who was politically correct, very well-spoken, very eloquent, etc.
00:45:10.000 Said all the right things, charming and everything else like that, versus when Trump comes in and uses, like, maybe 100 words in his vocabulary, and he's like...
00:45:17.000 We're going to build a wall.
00:45:20.000 The US government is as much a pageant show as it is an actual formal government with sovereignty and all those kind of things.
00:45:26.000 It's a show.
00:45:27.000 It's like a theme park.
00:45:28.000 It's a theme park of democracy.
00:45:30.000 Obama's a big character in it.
00:45:31.000 He's an actor.
00:45:32.000 The Clintons are actors.
00:45:34.000 These are all people that are aligned and accepted, and they're accepted characters.
00:45:38.000 Trump was a fucking crossover that...
00:45:40.000 He came from The Apprentice.
00:45:43.000 Yeah, he was a media guy, sure, an entertainer, but it's like this was a horror show crossover in their eyes.
00:45:49.000 This guy's sneaking backstage and he's ruining our pageantry of democracy.
00:45:56.000 That was something I don't think they'll ever, ever forgive him for, no matter how much he tries to appease them.
00:46:01.000 He did so much damage.
00:46:03.000 All politics revolves around interpersonal conflict and the WWE style.
00:46:10.000 In front of you, we hate each other.
00:46:13.000 We loathe each other.
00:46:15.000 We can't wait to destroy each other.
00:46:17.000 And then behind the scenes, they're having dinners with each other.
00:46:19.000 They're going out with each other.
00:46:20.000 They're doing whatever they can to advance whatever their personal...
00:46:24.000 Political agenda is on the front side telling you they're doing exactly the opposite so that they can placate their base.
00:46:30.000 But that's always the case.
00:46:31.000 It's always the case that politics has to be a pageant show.
00:46:34.000 You have to make a spectacle.
00:46:36.000 If you don't make a spectacle, you can't get attention.
00:46:38.000 So, I don't want to bleed too much into another news story, but it's like, you know, the decisive thing in 2016 is that this was the rise of social media.
00:46:47.000 You know, they did all these studies and they did all these investigations, Cambridge Analytic and all this stuff.
00:46:52.000 They found out that Trump's His real reach as far as media was concerned and how his supporters were getting access to fake news and stuff, it was a new form of media that they couldn't really fully control through social media.
00:47:07.000 And I was going to say that because of new changes in big tech when it comes to Trump.
00:47:13.000 I don't know if it's on the news.
00:47:14.000 Yeah, we're going to talk about that actually with Zuckerberg.
00:47:16.000 Yeah, yeah, that's what I was...
00:47:18.000 Yeah, because...
00:47:19.000 We've transitioned to that right now.
00:47:20.000 Yeah, yeah, because, you know, a lot of...
00:47:22.000 I don't know how many people know this.
00:47:24.000 J.D. Vance is the guy he chose as vice president.
00:47:27.000 That's a Peter Thiel guy.
00:47:28.000 Now, Peter Thiel is part of the PayPal mafia.
00:47:30.000 He was with Elon Musk.
00:47:31.000 And these are kind of like some of the founding fathers of Silicon Valley, so to speak, right?
00:47:36.000 And also, Peter Thiel was close with...
00:47:38.000 He was an early investor in Zuckerberg, too, if I recall correctly.
00:47:41.000 Yeah.
00:47:42.000 So, the Silicon Valley, that class of billionaires and, you know, Jeff Bezos and all those, they are not necessarily in league with Wall Street.
00:47:55.000 I mean, they're fully dependent on them, and ultimately, you know, they have the same ties to the Department of Defense and the agenda and so on and so on, and they have their own agendas.
00:48:05.000 But...
00:48:06.000 If you always notice, the political correctness that's been enforced on social media has been the most grotesque and inauthentic anywhere else.
00:48:13.000 You know, like how they're enforcing it on Facebook and how they were on Twitter before Elon Musk.
00:48:17.000 Well, I think a lot of that was due to overcompensating because they were appeasing...
00:48:23.000 This kind of external pressure to assimilate.
00:48:25.000 I mean, if you remember, Trump was in front of Congress, in front of all these senators, sorry, not Trump, Zuckerberg, when they were questioning him.
00:48:32.000 It was like a total meeting of different worlds, like Zuckerberg's coming from Silicon Valley, and this is the old, you know, traditional...
00:48:40.000 You know, government machine, and they're totally alienated from each other, right?
00:48:45.000 So it doesn't actually surprise me that now Zuckerberg is coming around more to Trump because he feels it's safer to.
00:48:51.000 Now he saw with X, with Elon Musk, and he has a kind of personal rivalry with him, and Elon Musk is openly supporting Trump.
00:48:59.000 I think that's self-preservation.
00:49:01.000 I think they kind of understand, especially after the assassination attempt, I saw Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg, and a lot of these people, because after the assassination attempt, especially when he picked J.D. Vance, everyone from Silicon Valley, all these guys were legacy Democrats, by the way.
00:49:17.000 They always voted left.
00:49:19.000 They all jumped on the Trump train, because I think to them, they're like, okay, we're going to be able to be better preserved with Trump on our side, and we'll donate to the thing.
00:49:26.000 And also, I think it's because of...
00:49:28.000 A lot of them are Zionists and have heavy support for Israel.
00:49:30.000 That's true.
00:49:31.000 And they knew that he would go ahead and, you know, give them what they need.
00:49:33.000 So I think two parts were self-preservation and obviously his foreign policy with Israel.
00:49:38.000 So, yeah, I mean, Zuckerberg, man, I think he's a snake.
00:49:43.000 I think he's just doing what he needs to do to preserve himself and preserve Facebook.
00:49:46.000 It's the same with all of Silicon Valley.
00:49:47.000 But it's fascinating, though, because it's like the whole establishment, all the corporations, all the media, all of big business, whatever, they're all rallying around Kamala.
00:49:58.000 Now they are.
00:49:59.000 A huge degree of them, right?
00:50:00.000 Yeah.
00:50:01.000 But it's like, is the Zuckerberg thing here, is this new?
00:50:04.000 Yeah, it came out like a day or two ago.
00:50:06.000 Right.
00:50:07.000 We can pull it up here.
00:50:09.000 I'll read some of the letters.
00:50:10.000 Do you have commentary before I read the letters?
00:50:11.000 Well, I was just saying, it's interesting how we're starting to see Silicon Valley, it seems like, not get on board with the Kamala agenda.
00:50:19.000 There seems to be a rift going on there.
00:50:22.000 I don't know if it's too much to read into that, just from Elon Musk and Zuckerberg and Peter Thiel and whatever.
00:50:27.000 Yeah, because they doubled back.
00:50:28.000 Once Trump almost got shot, a lot of people came out...
00:50:32.000 Right before Trump got shot, I think he had a meeting or he did a podcast on Silicon Valley with all these tech guys.
00:50:38.000 And then obviously J.D. Vance was a big part of the reason why he picked J.D. Vance, despite the fact that he's heavily unliked, is because of his links to tech.
00:50:46.000 Well, also, I think that a lot of these tech agencies don't really realize or understand that this is a massive favor system which happens in Washington.
00:50:57.000 And Zuckerberg's expecting, of course, that he's going to get some kind of scratch in the back.
00:51:01.000 If he's going to be censoring on behalf of an administration, scrubbing information, things like this.
00:51:07.000 So when he comes with his hand out and says, okay, now it's my turn, what are you going to do for me?
00:51:10.000 And they say, nothing, go fuck yourself.
00:51:13.000 I'm certain that that upsets these guys, right?
00:51:16.000 They don't understand that that's part of the game.
00:51:18.000 And they thought that they were going to get something, and it turns out they don't get anything at all.
00:51:23.000 Sorry.
00:51:24.000 No, go ahead.
00:51:24.000 Oh yeah, no, I just want to clarify, you know, I'm not trying to make these Silicon Valley guys out to be like some kind of anti-Semitism.
00:51:30.000 I mean, you alluded earlier, there are ties to the hardcore Zionists, but they also have ties to elements in the DOD, like the real hardcore, hardcore deep state, right?
00:51:39.000 But there's elements in that deep state that are like...
00:51:42.000 Right, right.
00:51:43.000 But they're so extreme.
00:51:45.000 Eric Prince, he's part of the network.
00:51:47.000 They're so extreme in terms of the agenda they have for America that even the mainstream establishment considers them too dangerous or too whatever.
00:51:56.000 But so it's kind of like it comes full circle.
00:51:59.000 It's like the people that seem like...
00:52:01.000 They're being disaligned from the agenda are actually the ones who want to accelerate it to an even more aggressive degree, you know?
00:52:10.000 So it's always something important to bear in mind, I think.
00:52:12.000 Yeah.
00:52:13.000 Rogan had TL on, and I listened to him talk for a little bit, and I was like, this guy's a fucking weirdo.
00:52:19.000 But as a lot of these billionaires are, you know, a lot of the time they're extremely solipsistic, you know, very not in touch with the real world.
00:52:26.000 Mark Cuban is like this too.
00:52:27.000 I don't know if you guys have ever listened to Mark Cuban.
00:52:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:52:30.000 Like these guys are like...
00:52:31.000 The thing is, they've been rich for so long that they kind of forgot how to identify with the regular person.
00:52:37.000 So they just say a bunch of sensationalized stupid shit and they think that the world revolves around them.
00:52:41.000 And this is very typical of a lot of billionaires that I've noticed whenever I watch their interviews.
00:52:44.000 It's like they don't have a touch with reality because they've been rich for so goddamn long.
00:52:48.000 They don't care about us as a people.
00:52:50.000 They just care about their agenda.
00:52:51.000 And as a result of that, they kind of plan towards what they want done at all times.
00:52:56.000 And also another thing with these people is they care about influence more than anything.
00:52:59.000 They don't care necessarily about money anymore.
00:53:02.000 They care a lot about influence.
00:53:04.000 They want power.
00:53:05.000 It's data.
00:53:06.000 Data matters more than anything.
00:53:08.000 Mark and Elon have all the data because with their database, bro, they could get anyone in the world almost.
00:53:13.000 There's also a great disconnect which happens, I think, when you can just raise your hand and get whatever you want.
00:53:19.000 And it doesn't matter what it is.
00:53:20.000 If you want a jumbo jet, you can just have it.
00:53:22.000 If you want an island, you can just have it.
00:53:27.000 You disconnect from objective reality and you start to forget how the world works.
00:53:34.000 You no longer are a part of the world the rest of us live in.
00:53:37.000 Yeah.
00:53:38.000 Real quick, let's pull up this letter real fast from Zuckerberg.
00:53:42.000 So Zuckerberg regards working with Biden-Harris administration.
00:53:45.000 So this is on a dated August 26, 2024, if we can make it bigger a bit.
00:53:49.000 And I'll just read something.
00:53:50.000 I'm not going to read the whole thing.
00:53:51.000 Eight million views.
00:53:52.000 That's crazy.
00:53:52.000 Yeah, it's wild.
00:54:19.000 It goes here.
00:54:21.000 Be clear about our position.
00:54:22.000 Our platforms are for everyone.
00:54:24.000 We're about promoting speech and helping people connect in a safe and secure way.
00:54:30.000 As part of this, we regularly hear from governments around the world and others with various concerns around public disclosure and public safety.
00:54:35.000 In 2021, senior officials from the Biden administration, including the White House, repeatedly pressured our teams for months to censor certain COVID-19 content, including humor, And satire and expressed a lot of frustration with our teams when we didn't agree.
00:54:48.000 Ultimately, it was our decision whether or not to take content down, and we own our decisions, including COVID-19 related changes we made to our enforcement in the wake of this pressure.
00:54:57.000 I believe the government pressure was wrong, and I regret that we were not more outspoken about it.
00:55:02.000 I also think we made some choices that, with the benefit of hindsight and new information, we couldn't make today.
00:55:07.000 Like I said to our teams at the time, I feel strongly that we should not compromise our content standards due to pressure from any administration in either direction and we're ready to push back if something like this happens again.
00:55:20.000 Okay, so you post that when it matters.
00:55:21.000 Nice job, Mark.
00:55:22.000 In a separate situation, the FBI warned us about a potential Russian disinformation operation about the Biden family and Burisma in the lead-up of the 2020 election.
00:55:30.000 That fall...
00:55:31.000 When we saw a New York Post story reporting on corruption allegations involving the then Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's family, we sent that story to fact checkers to review the temporarily demoted and temporarily demoted it while waiting for a reply.
00:55:44.000 It's since been made clear that the reporting was not Russian disinformation and in retrospect, we shouldn't have demoted the story.
00:55:51.000 We've changed our policies and processes to make sure this doesn't happen again.
00:55:55.000 For instance, we no longer temporarily demote things in the U.S. while waiting for fact checkers.
00:55:59.000 Wow.
00:56:00.000 We're sorry.
00:56:00.000 We fucked up.
00:56:01.000 Yeah, translation.
00:56:03.000 We fucked up.
00:56:03.000 We're sorry.
00:56:04.000 Sorry about that.
00:56:05.000 When this critical information was out there, we said that this is part of a Russian disinformation campaign, and it never was.
00:56:12.000 And it prolonged the process.
00:56:14.000 Perfect timing.
00:56:15.000 Unbelievable.
00:56:16.000 Apart from content moderation, I want to address the contributions I made during the last presidential cycle to support electoral infrastructure.
00:56:24.000 The idea here was to make sure local election jurisdictions across the country had the resources they needed to help people vote safely during the global pandemic.
00:56:32.000 I made these contributions through the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative.
00:56:35.000 That's his wife, if I'm not mistaken, right?
00:56:36.000 That he built a statue of like a simp.
00:56:38.000 They were designed to be nonpartisan, spread across urban, rural, and suburban communities.
00:56:42.000 Still, despite the analysis I've been showing otherwise, I know that some people believe this work benefited one partly over the other.
00:56:49.000 My goal was to be neutral and not play a role one way or another, or even appear to be playing a role, so I don't plan on making a similar contribution this cycle.
00:56:58.000 Respectfully, Mark Zuckerberg.
00:57:00.000 That's really funny.
00:57:03.000 First and foremost, moving back to the idea of the Russiagate, that was always one of the weakest narratives that the Democrats ever had, and they really had a hard time selling it.
00:57:14.000 It was built on the faultiest foundation ever.
00:57:17.000 They could never really present any proof to the American public of any of this ever happening.
00:57:21.000 They just kind of had these really weak allegations, which initially Clinton was just using as a talking point against Trump.
00:57:28.000 I don't think that they ever had We're good to go.
00:57:46.000 Yeah, false news, fake news.
00:57:48.000 You're seeing it everywhere.
00:57:50.000 And it turns out, and I think we're going to see a lot more of this kind of press release of, well, gee, guys, you know, we're sorry.
00:57:59.000 You should still trust us, even though we fucked you and told you a narrative which was completely false that the government insisted we tell you, right?
00:58:07.000 How are you going to trust a company like that again?
00:58:10.000 So there's a club called the Meta Club.
00:58:13.000 And a bunch of programs, for example, X, Instagram, all these platforms have a club.
00:58:18.000 In the club, they have rules that they have set for each person that goes in the club.
00:58:22.000 It could be, for example, No Shoes Allowed.
00:58:25.000 Only white t-shirts, you can't say X, Y, Z. And as a result, these platforms have power because they control each user in the platform and the club, which means by default, whatever they set as the perfect agenda for people to follow, you have to follow.
00:58:40.000 But if you don't follow it, you're either canceled or delete off the platform.
00:58:44.000 And this is another example of them censoring real information because they were pressured by the government to do so, which means fake news all over.
00:58:52.000 So one thing I find interesting is that, you know, in the post-war period, all of the press, the mainstream press in the United States, and especially with the rise of cable television and whatever, it was all really controlled by the government,
00:59:09.000 or we should rather say the deep state.
00:59:11.000 You know, it was in coordination with the CIA that made sure that the news cycle never disaligned with the agenda of the state, the government, or whatever, right?
00:59:20.000 So there is always a kind of understanding at that level that the media people are consuming, the information people are consuming, and is spreading, is compatible and aligned with the agenda, right?
00:59:31.000 Yeah, you're talking about the synergy.
00:59:32.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:59:33.000 It's a synergistic relationship.
00:59:35.000 So, here, Zuckerberg is saying, we want Facebook to actually be independent, you know, we don't want to be involved, we were going to take precautions within our company so that we don't have to directly listen to the government or whatever.
00:59:47.000 If it happens again.
00:59:49.000 If it happens again, right?
00:59:50.000 But I'm kind of torn in terms of whether I should just be cynical and say, okay, he's trying to deceive people.
00:59:57.000 I'm not sure if that's because he understands Facebook.
01:00:03.000 A lot of it's used by older people, and it's used by a lot of the people who might lean more conservative.
01:00:07.000 Or is there really a rift that we're seeing between the traditional kind of state machine that was built after the Cold War and these kinds of new forms of technology and information?
01:00:20.000 I think there could even be a simpler explanation than kind of this dynamic power struggle.
01:00:33.000 It could really just be that the government is costing these companies a lot of resources with their endless inquiries.
01:00:48.000 Yeah.
01:01:10.000 From these political administrations based on some value structure.
01:01:15.000 It could just be purely profit motive.
01:01:18.000 No, definitely.
01:01:19.000 100%.
01:01:19.000 It's clear.
01:01:21.000 We've seen it.
01:01:22.000 I don't know if it's a show.
01:01:23.000 Again, how conspiritual do you want to be?
01:01:25.000 I've got something to say after you guys.
01:01:27.000 We're going to have to switch the rumble, though, when I say what I'm going to say.
01:01:29.000 We saw Zuckerberg, you know, in his hearings in Washington, and that he was like a space alien, I mean, aside from the fact that he's just like extremely awkward and autistic or whatever.
01:01:41.000 Reptile?
01:01:41.000 Yeah, he was just like, he was coming from a completely different kind of milieu than the traditional government, the traditional power structure, and I think that there's something...
01:01:53.000 There's something to investigate as far as, like, has Silicon Valley prepared us for a new type, a new structure of statehood, a new machine of statehood?
01:02:02.000 And is that necessarily going to be a good thing?
01:02:05.000 That's what we have to ask, because although it's opposed to the Democrats and although it's opposed to Kamala and so on and so on, Do they have something lined up for us that might be, you know, even potentially worse?
01:02:16.000 Doesn't this lean into the kind of Torva idea of what he calls the parallel economy?
01:02:21.000 And with a parallel economy is going to come a parallel government, right?
01:02:24.000 So if what's going on is these alternative forms of media are beginning to gain independence, and they have their own platforms for streaming, they have their own ways to collect monies and revenue, and they have their own products that they're selling, that is a parallel economy.
01:02:40.000 There's no doubt that that's a parallel economy.
01:02:43.000 Wouldn't that necessarily have some governance around?
01:02:45.000 I think it would.
01:02:46.000 It's a new niche of political power and state power and sovereignty.
01:02:51.000 It's an unmarked territory of sovereignty.
01:02:54.000 Digital sovereignty, we'll call it, maybe.
01:02:57.000 Yeah, and the traditional form of state sovereignty has not really been able to assimilate it.
01:03:01.000 Well, it doesn't have the mechanisms yet.
01:03:04.000 It hasn't caught up with the technology, right?
01:03:07.000 That's exactly it, yeah.
01:03:10.000 At least not yet.
01:03:11.000 Not yet.
01:03:11.000 It will.
01:03:12.000 It will eventually.
01:03:13.000 Yeah, it will.
01:03:13.000 Well, I think it already has, in a sense, a deep state.
01:03:17.000 This is coming from, ultimately, the military from a long time ago.
01:03:21.000 But the traditional form of sovereignty, Congress and the Senate and all these other kind of superficial bureaucracies, to what extent is it going to have to be totally kind of swept up to accommodate and adjust to it?
01:03:37.000 Well, they won't full control, so at some point, everything's going to be controlled.
01:03:40.000 What you can post, what you can say, what you can't say, and then either you end up in the gulag or you shut off.
01:03:46.000 Well, and also, well, we'll get to that story later, but it ties in pretty well to this, too.
01:03:51.000 It does.
01:03:53.000 What did you want to say?
01:03:56.000 Oh, I was just gonna say this ties into the telegram.
01:03:59.000 Oh, the telegram story as well.
01:04:00.000 Censorship at its finest.
01:04:02.000 Okay, so real quick, let's switch to Rumble real fast for like a minute, because I have something that I want to say that I know I can't say out on YouTube.
01:04:09.000 So just come on over, guys.
01:04:11.000 Well, maybe I'd get away with it, but nah, let's just be safe.
01:04:14.000 Yeah, come on over.
01:04:15.000 Switch on over to Rumble for just a minute, because I'm going to tell you guys something.
01:04:18.000 This whole Facebook situation and stuff like that.
01:04:21.000 You already did?
01:04:22.000 Where did you switch it?
01:04:24.000 Yeah, confirm we're on Rumble, and then we're going to go back on.
01:04:30.000 Oh, there we go.
01:04:31.000 We're on Rumble now only?
01:04:32.000 Good to go, yeah.
01:04:32.000 Okay, so here's the thing.
01:04:35.000 If you look back at 2020, right, you got to look at...
01:04:37.000 Because my thing is I'm real big on identifying who is who.
01:04:40.000 This whole thing of deep state and globalists and all this other shit...
01:04:44.000 Okay, what I'm gonna say doesn't represent the views of anyone here at the table.
01:04:47.000 It just represents me and Iron Gaines, okay?
01:04:48.000 Just say fucking Jews, man, because this is what it is.
01:04:51.000 You look at who ran Facebook, obviously Mark Zuckerberg, Jew, right?
01:04:55.000 Zionist Jew.
01:04:56.000 Who ran Instagram?
01:04:56.000 Adam Massari, Zionist Jew.
01:04:58.000 Who ran YouTube at the time?
01:05:00.000 Susan Wajowski, Zionist Jew.
01:05:01.000 Who's her sister?
01:05:02.000 The owner of 23andMe.
01:05:04.000 Who founded Google?
01:05:05.000 Sergey Brin, Zionist Jew, right?
01:05:07.000 Then, you go and you look at who ran the CDC at the time?
01:05:10.000 Rochelle Walensky, Zionist Jew.
01:05:12.000 Then you look at who ran Pfizer, Albert Burla, Zionist Jew.
01:05:16.000 So, you're telling me that all of these platforms, which were super pro-censorship in 2020, by the way, that pushed out a certain narrative about the vaccine and go ahead and take the vaccine, which would push you to take the vaccine and make them a bunch of money with these companies, whether it's Johnson& Johnson and...
01:05:37.000 We're good to go.
01:05:52.000 Went ahead and got attacked and they put that clip of him saying nigger nigger nigger a million times.
01:05:56.000 They went ahead and went after RFK. They went after anyone that talked about the vaccine.
01:06:00.000 They banned you in 2020 if you mention anything about the vaccine on YouTube.
01:06:04.000 And anything that was put out that was anti-vax was immediately censored.
01:06:08.000 And Zuckerberg was a part of this fucking thing.
01:06:10.000 I think now he's coming forward and saying, Oh, well, you know, we kind of fucked up, blah, blah, blah.
01:06:13.000 We were pressured.
01:06:14.000 But at the end of the day, he admits it.
01:06:16.000 The buck stops with them.
01:06:17.000 And what did they choose to do?
01:06:18.000 They chose to censor a lot of the censors.
01:06:20.000 And here's the thing.
01:06:21.000 They know, deep down, there's a lot of people that are going to fucking die from this stupidest vaccine.
01:06:26.000 And he's kind of getting ahead of the curve and being like, look, man, the government pressured us.
01:06:30.000 You know, we didn't take down everything.
01:06:32.000 We took down some of the stuff, etc.
01:06:33.000 Because people are fucking waking up and realizing that...
01:06:37.000 They weren't told everything that they needed to be told about the vaccine.
01:06:40.000 And imagine how many people try to put information out there about the vaccine being dangerous or causing issues, but they had their voices stifled or stopped.
01:06:47.000 Thanks to Susan Wajowski.
01:06:48.000 Thanks to fucking Mark Zuckerberg.
01:06:49.000 Thanks to fucking Adam Massari.
01:06:50.000 Thanks to Rachel Walensky that put out this stupid CDC shit where They're six feet apart.
01:06:55.000 Get the vaccine.
01:06:56.000 You better get it.
01:06:56.000 They pushed all this fucking propaganda for years.
01:06:59.000 Locked us up in our houses.
01:07:00.000 Forced us to take a stupid ass vaccine.
01:07:02.000 Some people lost their jobs because they didn't want to take it, etc.
01:07:04.000 But now we're realizing it doesn't matter anymore.
01:07:06.000 Do you see anybody wearing masks or doing the six foot separation bullshit?
01:07:09.000 No.
01:07:10.000 But who ran all the bullshit?
01:07:11.000 We gotta call it what the fuck it is.
01:07:13.000 Zionist Jews were behind the whole fucking lockdown.
01:07:16.000 They were behind the vaccine pushes and they were behind the fucking censorship that kept it going.
01:07:20.000 So, look, man.
01:07:21.000 I'm just gonna call a spade a spade again.
01:07:22.000 My views don't represent everyone else here, but, you know, when you actually look and see who the fuck was in charge of a lot of this stuff, it all comes back to the same fucking people, man.
01:07:30.000 So, fuck that shit.
01:07:32.000 We'll go back to YouTube.
01:07:35.000 No.
01:07:36.000 No?
01:07:37.000 You didn't take one?
01:07:38.000 Not one Vax?
01:07:39.000 All those names, guys.
01:07:40.000 You'll see what I'm talking about.
01:07:42.000 Look, however...
01:07:42.000 Go back to YouTube.
01:07:43.000 Okay, sorry.
01:07:44.000 No, no, you're good.
01:07:46.000 We're going to go back to YouTube now.
01:07:48.000 Can I even...
01:07:50.000 Oh, we're going to talk about them boys some more?
01:07:52.000 Go ahead.
01:07:52.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:07:53.000 Okay, go ahead.
01:07:53.000 Go back to Rumble.
01:07:54.000 We're going to go back to Rumble.
01:07:55.000 Okay, back to Rumble.
01:07:57.000 So, look, look.
01:07:59.000 Look, however over-represented Jews are in terms of CEO positions with big tech companies, I still think it's fair to say there's a deep state, which really isn't just...
01:08:09.000 You can't really just say it's Zionist Jews.
01:08:11.000 It's not just, no.
01:08:12.000 But a lot of them are.
01:08:13.000 Well...
01:08:14.000 The Pearls, the Bill Crystals, the Wolfowitz, all these guys.
01:08:17.000 Yeah, yeah, look, Zionism is 100% part of it.
01:08:19.000 Henry Kissinger.
01:08:20.000 Like, all these people were deep state guys, all fucking Zionist Jews.
01:08:22.000 Yeah, yeah, but listen, Zionism is definitely part of the deep state agenda, there's no doubt about that, but what we're talking about when we're talking about a deep state is a parallel kind of form of government that's forming after the Cold War, where, okay, we have our Constitution, we have our regular democracy, But then we have the Dolez brothers creating all these kinds of extra-legal apparatuses and institutions.
01:08:41.000 We have the OSS, the CIA, we have the military-industrial complex, and we have a military deep state for military intelligence and technology.
01:08:49.000 And it's like, you go at these really deep levels, and Zionism is just like one of the arms of it, you know?
01:09:00.000 And when it comes to what we're talking about, with the rise of Silicon Valley big tech companies potentially opening the space for a new form of political sovereignty, you have to think about...
01:09:13.000 When the Cold War was being waged and we had all this shadow government, basically, that was created to fight communism, to what extent has that actually just become the real government?
01:09:22.000 And the one that we see on TV is just a spectacle, and it's just a show, right?
01:09:27.000 And also, Big Pharma is 100% also part of it.
01:09:30.000 All the monopoly capital corporate companies, but is Big Pharma controlled by Zionists?
01:09:38.000 Yeah, I mean, Albert Burrell is a Jew.
01:09:39.000 Zionist Jew.
01:09:40.000 Who's that?
01:09:41.000 He's the head of Pfizer.
01:09:42.000 He's the CEO? He's the CEO. And then you look at BlackRock, Larry Fink, Zionist Jew.
01:09:47.000 It's like every single time.
01:09:49.000 Again, I'm not saying it's only them.
01:09:51.000 Of course not.
01:09:51.000 There's other people involved, too.
01:09:53.000 Make no mistake about it.
01:09:55.000 Most Zionists are Christians.
01:09:57.000 But it's interesting to me how everywhere you look, when there's some bullshit going on, whether it's censorship or misinformation or whatever, they're saying, no, this and that.
01:10:06.000 It's always a fucking Zionist Jew.
01:10:08.000 Almost always.
01:10:09.000 It's fucking crazy.
01:10:10.000 Well, I mean, I think the agenda of Big Pharma, though, was definitely...
01:10:14.000 I don't know about you.
01:10:14.000 I mean, I'm open to different theories, but I really think it was about them turning profit.
01:10:19.000 You know, I think it was for financial gain.
01:10:21.000 The whole vax thing and, you know, rushing the FDA regulations.
01:10:25.000 Absolutely.
01:10:26.000 And I think that's a whole machine.
01:10:27.000 It's not just Pfizer.
01:10:29.000 It's a lot of...
01:10:29.000 Well, yeah, that's what I was trying to explain.
01:10:31.000 Like, you got...
01:10:32.000 Okay, so there's different parts of it, right?
01:10:33.000 You got the social media platforms that the information goes through.
01:10:37.000 Controlling the information.
01:10:38.000 But they're controlling the flow of information.
01:10:39.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:10:40.000 Dude, I remember vividly in 2020, if you said anything that was anti-vax, you were banned.
01:10:44.000 Or they were going to put a banner under your video saying that this is misinformation.
01:10:48.000 Yeah.
01:10:48.000 Then, you look at who the head of the CDC was that was pushing all this bullshit out about six feet distance, all this other stuff, Fauci, and whatever.
01:10:55.000 But it was Rochelle Walensky who ran the CDC in 2020.
01:10:59.000 Zionist Jew.
01:10:59.000 Can you even talk about the vax now on YouTube?
01:11:02.000 You can now, but it was really bad in 2020.
01:11:05.000 It was bad.
01:11:06.000 I remember they would just strike you.
01:11:07.000 They would strike you just for saying the word vaccine.
01:11:11.000 Yeah, you couldn't even say the term.
01:11:12.000 We had to use beer bug.
01:11:14.000 I remember using Corona.
01:11:15.000 The jabby stabby.
01:11:16.000 The jabby stabby and shit.
01:11:17.000 People are still, to this day, still worried about it.
01:11:18.000 So when you look at every cornerstone of this whole vaccine and COVID mandate, whether it was the social media information coming in, the people that are pushing the vaccine, or the people producing the vaccine when it comes to the pharmaceutical companies, all run by Jews.
01:11:31.000 All of them.
01:11:31.000 It's crazy, dude.
01:11:32.000 I have to look into that myself.
01:11:33.000 They're not the only ones.
01:11:34.000 I haven't studied it myself, so I can't.
01:11:37.000 And then Google, the main platform, which you would run a lot of this stuff and ask questions about, who was the founder of that?
01:11:42.000 A dude, a Russian Jew.
01:11:45.000 Yeah, a lot of the Russian immigration for Silicon Valley came because of the chip technology that they developed in the Soviet Union.
01:11:53.000 What they basically did when it collapsed is they took all the expertise, all the best mathematics, not necessarily chip technology, the best statisticians and mathematicians and engineers and stuff, and they basically took all that skills and resources and got into big tech here,
01:12:08.000 and it was technology from the Soviet Union.
01:12:10.000 I did a deep dive on all this, and it's like, it's just when you look and you're like, what the fuck?
01:12:13.000 Like, it's almost funny.
01:12:14.000 It's like every single time, you know what I mean?
01:12:16.000 I go, I'm like, I looked at name, I'm like, okay, Wikipedia, early life, boom.
01:12:20.000 Every time, bro.
01:12:21.000 It's like, it's like a game now at this point.
01:12:25.000 But do you ever think, though, that if these faces are so easily accessible, you know, are they really the ones ultimately in power?
01:12:34.000 You know, if you really so readily, you know, easily know who they are...
01:12:38.000 No, you gotta deep dive to find them.
01:12:40.000 I feel like, for example, Eric Prince, he's not a Jew, is he?
01:12:43.000 Or I don't know.
01:12:44.000 Let me look him up.
01:12:45.000 Yeah.
01:12:45.000 Let's look it up.
01:12:46.000 We'll have fun.
01:12:47.000 I get what you're saying, because the people that are actually pulling the strings...
01:12:48.000 He's like, that guy's not really that high profile, but he's like...
01:12:52.000 You're not gonna see them in the public eye.
01:12:53.000 You're not gonna see them like...
01:12:54.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:12:54.000 You can't find them online by doing some searches.
01:12:56.000 Yeah, that's what I mean.
01:12:57.000 They're like behind the scenes pulling the strings you would never even know.
01:12:58.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:13:00.000 They're in a castle somewhere in Transylvania.
01:13:02.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:13:03.000 Offshore bank accounts.
01:13:04.000 Something like that, bro.
01:13:05.000 I mean, I don't even think CEOs are the people who are in power.
01:13:08.000 A CEO is a salaried position.
01:13:11.000 That's a figurehead, you know?
01:13:12.000 I just think at some level, yeah, there's a coincidence where, like, there's a bunch of people that are starting race or certain, I want to say, ideology that are heading these companies.
01:13:19.000 But the point here is that, like, you're in their house.
01:13:22.000 They have some rules, you don't follow the rules of their current timing, then you're fucked.
01:13:27.000 But, at the same time, censoring elections on purpose, now you're pushing the whole country in the same direction.
01:13:34.000 I think people underestimate that it's like...
01:13:37.000 The people that are in power, and they've done studies on this, and, you know, these are the same ruling aristocratic families that were in power like 500 years ago in Europe.
01:13:49.000 Like as the nobles and the aristocrats and the lords and the royal whatever bloodlines.
01:13:54.000 They haven't changed.
01:13:56.000 The royal families from Europe and the noble families, the esteemed lineages, they're still the ones that are in power now, you know, and They've maintained their family pedigrees, again, originating from European,
01:14:12.000 Anglo-American aristocracies, and they're just not that public.
01:14:17.000 They're not celebrities.
01:14:18.000 Of course, yeah, they're always behind the scenes.
01:14:20.000 You've got to do digging to find these people.
01:14:23.000 Jews, even since the Rothschilds, tended to be high profile.
01:14:26.000 They tended to be celebrities.
01:14:28.000 Why?
01:14:28.000 Because it was unusual for Jews to rise to the ranks and become new money and build it from scratch, compared to the older money, the aristocratic money, which it's part of the aristocratic MO that you're not in public, you're not acting as a celebrity, talking to the masses and stuff like that.
01:14:44.000 So I just think it's always important to keep in mind that dynamic, that there's an unseen, hidden...
01:14:53.000 Yeah, they are hidden, and that's 100%.
01:14:56.000 You look at the NBA, right?
01:14:59.000 Obviously no one gives a fuck about who runs the NBA, they just want to watch the players, but who runs the NBA? It's like 15 of the teams are owned by Jews, right?
01:15:06.000 The head of the NBA, Stern, Jew.
01:15:08.000 Before him was David Stern, and then the guy now is definitely a Jew.
01:15:12.000 What's his name?
01:15:13.000 Adam Silver.
01:15:14.000 Adam Silver, yeah.
01:15:15.000 He's a Jew, and then before it was David Stern.
01:15:16.000 So, like, you know, and then you look at the music industry.
01:15:19.000 So, no one gives a fuck about the people that own the record labels, etc.
01:15:22.000 They care about whatever.
01:15:23.000 But then you look at Diddy's, like, mentors.
01:15:24.000 Who is it?
01:15:24.000 Clive Davis.
01:15:25.000 Jew.
01:15:25.000 Then you look at, like, entertainment, right?
01:15:28.000 No one cares about the owners of YouTube or who runs YouTube.
01:15:31.000 They care about PewDiePie and these big people.
01:15:34.000 Yeah.
01:15:34.000 But if you look at who ran YouTube from 2014 all the way to 2023, Wajowski.
01:15:40.000 You know, Susan Wajowski.
01:15:41.000 Yeah, no, I'm not.
01:15:41.000 I don't know.
01:15:42.000 So it's like they're always in the back.
01:15:44.000 Like, if you do a little bit of research, you'll find out who they are.
01:15:46.000 But I'm saying, even if you go deeper than that, though, these guys seem like lower-level hucksters compared to the real power, which is like, where does the finances come from to prop the entertainment industry up?
01:15:59.000 Well, the head of trust and safety that actually bans people at YouTube is a Jew, too.
01:16:02.000 I mean, where does the finance go to kind of allocate the loans and the credit to build these in the first place?
01:16:10.000 Old money.
01:16:11.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:16:13.000 Old, old money.
01:16:14.000 And who are the bankers?
01:16:16.000 Well, we disagree on the...
01:16:18.000 Jewish bankers, man!
01:16:20.000 Probably disagree on the percentages.
01:16:21.000 Yeah, like...
01:16:22.000 Look, look, I'll definitely say the Rothschilds are 100% part of it.
01:16:26.000 Like, there are Jews that are 100% part of the ruling class.
01:16:30.000 100,000%.
01:16:31.000 It's just I don't agree that they're the majority.
01:16:33.000 I don't agree that they're...
01:16:34.000 I have a question.
01:16:35.000 Pointing out who's behind the...
01:16:37.000 No, hold on, hold on.
01:16:37.000 This is very important.
01:16:38.000 Pointing out who's behind the scenes pulling strings, what does that do?
01:16:43.000 Someone please tell me.
01:16:43.000 What does that do?
01:16:45.000 Um, I guess it just...
01:16:46.000 Oh, then I make you a target.
01:16:47.000 No, 100%.
01:16:48.000 I get fucked up.
01:16:48.000 100%.
01:16:48.000 What does that do for the public?
01:16:50.000 Yeah.
01:16:50.000 Well, a lot of people probably didn't know that just now.
01:16:52.000 And now they know who was behind the COVID thing.
01:16:57.000 What are they going to do with it?
01:16:57.000 What are they going to do with it?
01:16:58.000 Education is an important problem.
01:16:59.000 To do what?
01:17:00.000 Snickerfresh, man.
01:17:00.000 I'm not going to have this discussion with you, bro.
01:17:02.000 I'm just saying...
01:17:02.000 She's always like, bro, why are you just going to name them?
01:17:04.000 There's no point calling out people...
01:17:06.000 Alright, we'll go back to YouTube then.
01:17:07.000 You cannot defeat...
01:17:08.000 So, first, you feel safe.
01:17:09.000 Let's just go back to YouTube.
01:17:10.000 Go home!
01:17:10.000 Am I correct here or no?
01:17:12.000 I'm just drinking my coffee listening to this convo.
01:17:14.000 Bro, I'm the only one on common sense here.
01:17:20.000 I'll fucking name him, bro.
01:17:21.000 Because most people don't even know this shit, so I was like, yo, who ran the country at this time and pushed the COVID vaccine and pushed the mandate?
01:17:28.000 Let's fucking name these assholes.
01:17:29.000 I just gave you all the names.
01:17:30.000 Listen, man, I'm your friend, bro.
01:17:31.000 That's all I'm saying.
01:17:32.000 Hey, man.
01:17:33.000 I can't about you, bro.
01:17:34.000 That's fine.
01:17:36.000 Anything else before we go back to YouTube on Jews?
01:17:40.000 No, we can go to YouTube.
01:17:42.000 I'll just say that.
01:17:43.000 I think understanding the power structure and its historical origins is very important.
01:17:49.000 It does give you the ability, at least...
01:17:52.000 To have a step one to think about, like, how could this even possibly be defeated, you know, or even changed in any kind of way?
01:17:59.000 Just knowing how it works.
01:18:01.000 And from my studies, from what I've studied about it, it's like, it's very, very old.
01:18:05.000 It's very old.
01:18:06.000 I mean, we're talking like...
01:18:07.000 Adam Weinshop, way back then.
01:18:09.000 Even way earlier than that, man.
01:18:11.000 It's like the Renaissance, at least, you know?
01:18:13.000 Renaissance Italy, like hundreds and hundreds of years ago.
01:18:16.000 Andrew, I'm curious to hear your opinion, though.
01:18:18.000 About what?
01:18:19.000 About all this people talk.
01:18:21.000 We're on YouTube, man.
01:18:23.000 We're back on YouTube.
01:18:24.000 It's fine.
01:18:26.000 Anyway, so, where are we at here?
01:18:29.000 You know what, Myron?
01:18:29.000 We should debate ourselves about this topic.
01:18:32.000 I think the audience would love that.
01:18:33.000 What do you think?
01:18:34.000 Me and the debate, the society itself, and who runs the world, and what you should do about it.
01:18:39.000 Bro, you know the answer to that, man.
01:18:40.000 I don't know, but what should we do as a community to stop this?
01:18:44.000 Bro, the people are learning, man.
01:18:45.000 That's what matters.
01:18:46.000 The people know.
01:18:47.000 And more people are waking up.
01:18:48.000 They're learning what's going to happen to you.
01:18:50.000 That's a good idea, though.
01:18:51.000 Hey, man.
01:18:51.000 If I die in the process, I die in the process.
01:18:53.000 What?
01:18:55.000 Okay, so what do we got up next?
01:18:59.000 Oh, Telegram.
01:19:00.000 Pavlov, right?
01:19:01.000 Yes.
01:19:02.000 So recently, the CEO has been abducted by the French president, and a twist of events happened where he was called to be at dinner with the president of France, but all of a sudden, magically,
01:19:17.000 he gets to the airport on the plane and is greeted by who?
01:19:22.000 The police of France.
01:19:24.000 Let's get to the article.
01:19:41.000 Which we all know about his wife and some questions there.
01:19:45.000 It turns out that the French president invited Derov to dine together.
01:19:48.000 Pavlov told about this during interrogation by the police.
01:19:53.000 The French newspaper Le Canard Did I pronounce that right?
01:19:57.000 Canard Cheyenne claims.
01:19:59.000 But instead of lunch, Derov was met in France by local police.
01:20:03.000 Macron did not officially confirm this, but local politician Florian Philippot said that this was quite in the spirit of the French...
01:20:11.000 President.
01:20:11.000 President.
01:20:12.000 Remy Lind, 2023.
01:20:14.000 I gotta get my glasses.
01:20:16.000 So, just off of that piece alone, Isn't that almost like a perfect setup?
01:20:23.000 The president of a country says to you, let's meet for dinner.
01:20:27.000 Let's meet for Noble, nigga.
01:20:28.000 Discuss some things about, you know, the current society, maybe even your platform, maybe working together on some different basis.
01:20:36.000 You're like, you know what?
01:20:37.000 All right.
01:20:38.000 This is the president of a country.
01:20:39.000 He got my back.
01:20:40.000 He's my boy.
01:20:41.000 I'm going to go meet him real quick for some dinner.
01:20:43.000 Talk some business.
01:20:44.000 But before you know it, though...
01:20:46.000 You're caught up in a storm of police and arrest.
01:20:49.000 Well, what's really interesting about this, especially with Durov, is he's not being charged for doing these crimes himself.
01:20:59.000 They're not saying, you did embezzlement, and you did...
01:21:03.000 What is the list of crimes?
01:21:05.000 Terrorism, cyberbullying, huge laundry list of crimes.
01:21:12.000 They're not accusing him of doing any of that.
01:21:15.000 They're just saying that there's people who are on the technology he invented who are doing that.
01:21:21.000 As though somehow he's responsible for that.
01:21:24.000 This is the same type of argument that gun control advocates often use when somebody goes and uses an AR-15 in a nefarious way.
01:21:34.000 And suddenly, they're going and saying, oh, the gun manufacturer needs to be held responsible and sued into oblivion and this type of thing because their technology is being used.
01:21:44.000 This is bullshit.
01:21:46.000 The fact that the French kind of brought this guy in under false pretenses and then arrested him on charges which had nothing to directly do with him.
01:21:55.000 They're not charging him with any of this.
01:21:58.000 They're just saying...
01:22:00.000 This stuff happens on your platform.
01:22:04.000 So what?
01:22:05.000 So fucking what?
01:22:06.000 And it's designed, in fact, to be encrypted so that people's communications are not...
01:22:13.000 I mean, that's what the whole idea of Telegram is, is the encryption.
01:22:17.000 So this is used by governments.
01:22:19.000 It's used by all sorts of different people.
01:22:22.000 And the trans-mafia...
01:22:24.000 When the trans mafia was all over Telegram organizing to take down various content creators and take down various people who upset them, and when Black Lives Matter is using this technology, when actual terrorists or leftist terrorists are using this technology,
01:22:40.000 nobody gives a shit.
01:22:41.000 Now it's good technology.
01:22:42.000 But if right-wingers are organizing on it, and I guarantee you that's what the laundry list of charges are going to show, so right-wingers are getting together and saying, well, we don't like the Muslims in the UK anymore, right?
01:22:54.000 But when the trans mafia uses it, they organize for their nefarious shit, that's fine, right?
01:23:02.000 So, yeah, it's totally bullshit.
01:23:04.000 Actually, what I've heard is that, and don't quote me on this because I'm not absolutely certain about it, it's just something I've heard, is that Telegram was actually being used very prominently in Russian military operations in Ukraine.
01:23:17.000 So that if they actually have access to Telegram and they're able to affect it or shut it down or something, that could actually severely affect the war in Ukraine, actually, and Russia's military efforts.
01:23:28.000 And that, to me, makes the most sense as far as what the motivation behind something like this would be, you know?
01:23:33.000 Andrew, you have a good point.
01:23:34.000 Just real quick, just after your point.
01:23:36.000 You mentioned he was being charged for things he didn't do on his platform, right?
01:23:41.000 Yeah.
01:23:42.000 Imagine if he made that into America.
01:23:43.000 Mark Zuckerberg?
01:23:46.000 All these people would still be trying for the same thing he's been trying for.
01:23:49.000 So I was going to say something about that.
01:23:51.000 RFK talked about this with his interviewer, Tucker, literally yesterday, which we'll talk about RFK here in a second.
01:23:57.000 They get protection.
01:23:59.000 And that's why they cooperate.
01:24:01.000 But just so you guys know, by the way, this is actually very important.
01:24:04.000 The reason why these pussy-ass social media platforms cooperate so heavily with the government is because they get a certain protection where if you publish something on their platform that breaks the law or anything else like that, they're not liable and they can't be charged or sued, right?
01:24:19.000 And it's the same protection that a lot of these...
01:24:23.000 Newspapers enjoy as well, like the New York Post, whatever it may be, where you can't sue them for publishing certain stuff.
01:24:29.000 So social media platforms get this.
01:24:31.000 That's why they cooperate so much with the government, because they don't want to lose protection and be held liable or held criminally liable for anything that someone on their platform publishes.
01:24:39.000 So that's able to protect themselves.
01:24:40.000 But here's the thing.
01:24:41.000 Foreign governments, they don't have to adhere to that.
01:24:45.000 So the thing is, why is it then, if he's being charged for all of these things because the organization on Telegram, when Mark Zuckerberg goes out to France, they're going to arrest him?
01:24:55.000 Are they going to arrest Elon Musk when he goes out to free?
01:24:59.000 Or are they only going to arrest this guy?
01:25:01.000 It's totally clear.
01:25:03.000 Isn't that convenient?
01:25:04.000 It's because they've been to the whim of these foreign governments.
01:25:07.000 Zuckerberg is a cuck when it comes to that.
01:25:09.000 Also, real quick, encryption itself, the method of encryption is bullshit.
01:25:14.000 I'm in tech.
01:25:15.000 That's just outdated, bro.
01:25:16.000 That's just so old, bro.
01:25:17.000 And it's funny because people think you're a state behind WhatsApp and Telegram.
01:25:20.000 No, you're not.
01:25:21.000 Well, WhatsApp, no, because that's on my Facebook.
01:25:22.000 But even Telegram.
01:25:24.000 And they can see all your shit.
01:25:25.000 No one's safe, bro.
01:25:26.000 So, oh yeah, I'm safe by Telegram.
01:25:28.000 Nigga, no you're not!
01:25:29.000 No one's safe.
01:25:30.000 And all your communications, right?
01:25:32.000 Even on Twitter.
01:25:33.000 Like, if you're DMing people, they're reading your DMs.
01:25:36.000 You go on Wi-Fi, you go on, you're plugging a cable that's not even, like, safe, you can get your shit snapped like this.
01:25:40.000 So is that just through your device, or is it through the data itself that's being transmitted on Telegram?
01:25:45.000 Dude, they have technology right now.
01:25:47.000 I can encrypt anything, bro.
01:25:48.000 Dude, no one's safe, bro.
01:25:49.000 So you're...
01:25:49.000 Oh, I'm going to be saved by telegram.
01:25:50.000 No, you're not.
01:25:51.000 It's all a farce, bro.
01:25:53.000 Well, what I was going to say is that it is significantly harder to get in, though.
01:25:57.000 I'll tell you this from being in law enforcement.
01:26:00.000 Encrypted programs are much harder to get if you don't have the actual device.
01:26:05.000 You need to have the actual device to see the conversation.
01:26:07.000 It's very difficult to actually monitor it without going through the actual device.
01:26:11.000 Maybe there's a way to get remote.
01:26:13.000 Whenever they lock you up, guess what they got?
01:26:14.000 Your device.
01:26:15.000 Well, yeah, of course, of course.
01:26:16.000 And also, there's got to be ways, 100% they have ways to remotely access your device, you know, without necessarily directly going to Telegram without it.
01:26:26.000 You know what's surprising?
01:26:27.000 Yeah.
01:26:27.000 iPhone actually does a very good job of protecting, I swear to God.
01:26:31.000 From what I've heard about what the CIA was capable of 15 years ago, There's no doubt in my mind.
01:26:38.000 Well, there was a huge lawsuit.
01:26:39.000 Like, okay, so when I was on the job, this was actually something...
01:26:42.000 This is a big reason why the FBI doesn't use iPhones.
01:26:45.000 Apple would not cooperate with them with giving them access to phones.
01:26:48.000 But you think CIA is a whole different ballpark?
01:26:51.000 No, they all use the same technology.
01:26:52.000 Really?
01:26:52.000 They're all using Sal Brights, which is, you know, the main thing to use to extract phones.
01:26:57.000 So, there might be technology out now, but what I will say is that, like, compared to the other phone brands, surprisingly, I'm fucking shocked and amazed to say this, Apple is actually one of the ones that, like, it's very difficult to hack.
01:27:08.000 Blackberry supposedly used to have...
01:27:10.000 Blackberries are very secure.
01:27:11.000 People still use Blackberries.
01:27:12.000 Compared to other phones, guys.
01:27:13.000 Back in the day.
01:27:15.000 So, but, you know, I was going to say, there's no doubt in my mind whatsoever that this is not France doing this.
01:27:22.000 This is 100% coordinated by, you know, the U.S. Absolutely, the U.S. The U.S. is 100%.
01:27:28.000 What was the practical applications of Telegram being the battlefield, though, of Russia?
01:27:34.000 What was the details there, Haas?
01:27:36.000 I don't exactly remember.
01:27:38.000 I just remember hearing that from a trusted source, and, you know, that clicked to me, and it made sense.
01:27:44.000 So here are the charges, it looks like.
01:27:45.000 12 charges.
01:27:46.000 12 charges against Telegram CEO Pavel Derov, including providing cryptology services aiming to ensure confidentiality without certified declaration and six counts of complicity with alleged criminal activity by Telegram users.
01:27:56.000 That's crazy.
01:27:57.000 So we'll pull this up real quick.
01:27:59.000 And let's mention a girl out there.
01:28:01.000 So, complicity, webmastering an online platform in order to enable an illegal transaction or organized group.
01:28:06.000 Refusal to communicate at the request of competent authorities information or documents necessary for carrying on operating interceptions allowed by law.
01:28:13.000 Complicity, possessing pornographic images of minors.
01:28:15.000 Complicity, distributing, offering, or making available pornographic images of minors in organized groups.
01:28:20.000 Complicity, acquiring, transporting, possessing, offering, or selling narcotic substances.
01:28:25.000 Complicity, offering, selling, or making available without legitimate reason, equipment tools, programs, or data designed for...
01:28:31.000 I think?
01:28:48.000 To ensure confidential without certified declaration, providing a cryptology tool not solely to ensuring authenticity or integrity, monitoring without prior declaration.
01:28:56.000 And then lastly here, importing a cryptology tool, ensuring authentication or integrity, monitoring without prior declaration.
01:29:04.000 So guys, I mean basically, hey, all this shit that happens on your platform, we're hitting you with it.
01:29:09.000 So let me...
01:29:10.000 Telegram has no rules, right?
01:29:14.000 Do they enforce anything?
01:29:15.000 Yeah, they have rules.
01:29:17.000 They can get your group shut down.
01:29:20.000 They shut them down all the time.
01:29:22.000 They have rules for...
01:29:24.000 Because Telegram's not just...
01:29:25.000 It's become more of a social media platform.
01:29:30.000 Because how it works is that if you're a social media platform, you can actually be criminally liable for illegal things being done using your platform, right?
01:29:37.000 Or...
01:29:38.000 Well, it depends.
01:29:40.000 I believe that there's two ways that this can be done.
01:29:43.000 One is you have immunity based on some criteria, or you don't have immunity based on other criteria.
01:29:51.000 But I'm not sure how it works.
01:29:53.000 Like, do they have a duty to actually enforce...
01:29:55.000 Content moderation.
01:29:56.000 To your point, though...
01:29:57.000 I'm not sure.
01:29:58.000 I'm not sure.
01:29:59.000 I think that this depends on where you're at.
01:30:01.000 So this is why I think what'll happen...
01:30:03.000 I think ultimately what's going to happen is these tech leaders, Silicon Valley leaders, people who have new technologies, start getting arrested in foreign nations because they can't possibly comply with all these global laws and regulations from each and every country on planet Earth.
01:30:18.000 I think there's going to end up being a universal Bill of Rights when it comes...
01:30:21.000 And this is why Rumble shut down in France.
01:30:22.000 This is where it's getting, right?
01:30:25.000 It's getting to a point where other countries don't observe freedom of speech like we do.
01:30:31.000 We're very fortunate to have the First Amendment here in the United States, but in Eastern Europe, especially these former colonial powers, it's kind of funny.
01:30:38.000 They're pussified now.
01:30:40.000 They're pussified.
01:30:40.000 They're run by weak leaders that don't necessarily recognize free speech, etc.
01:30:45.000 For them, they look at it like, okay, these American companies that facilitate free speech, we need to somehow monitor these people.
01:30:51.000 Now, Instagram, Facebook, etc., they're probably bending the knee all the time, giving them whatever they want, whatever it is, right?
01:30:56.000 That's why I think WhatsApp now is compromised because Facebook runs it and they've given their information, right?
01:31:01.000 They're not necessarily an encryption service to the same degree as Telegram, which is a big reason why Telegram is so popular.
01:31:05.000 It's precisely because WhatsApp used to be the one that everyone used, but now everyone uses Telegram and Signal.
01:31:10.000 So, I think we're going to see more of this where...
01:31:14.000 If you operate in these countries and you don't cooperate with that country with what they want, because you can see there, not cooperating, etc., you're going to go to jail.
01:31:22.000 So people like Chris Pawlowski, etc., they're like, you know what?
01:31:25.000 We're not going to comply with your authoritarian commands.
01:31:27.000 We're just going to shut down in your fucking country.
01:31:29.000 And that's what he did.
01:31:30.000 He shut down in Brazil, France, etc.
01:31:32.000 What do you think about the ideas which has floated around a lot now about a universal Bill of Rights with tech?
01:31:38.000 That there are universal rules which have to be adhered to globally so that countries can't make these individualistic laws.
01:31:43.000 It's not a bad idea.
01:31:44.000 Yeah.
01:31:44.000 I don't think it would ever work.
01:31:46.000 Well, they're trying to promote it as being a basic human right.
01:31:50.000 They're saying you have a human right to this technology.
01:31:52.000 It's hopeful, but it's too far gone.
01:31:53.000 I think what we're seeing is selective punishment.
01:31:56.000 Well, the United States would have to spearhead it and be really aggressive on people joining in, like a little NATO. Or Europe, yeah.
01:32:02.000 But this is what's being floated around that I've seen as being a possible safeguard to this idea that if you create...
01:32:11.000 Because the big thing is, if these alternative technologies are going to continue to exist, they're going to accelerate.
01:32:18.000 People are going to begin making more and more and more of them.
01:32:21.000 And your risk of not being able to utilize these technologies because the people who invent them might go to jail based on your local government entrapping them like this.
01:32:33.000 This will become more prominent.
01:32:34.000 You're going to have to have some kind of offset.
01:32:36.000 And so this is what I see floating around as the potential offset to it.
01:32:40.000 Do I think it will happen?
01:32:41.000 Absolutely not.
01:32:42.000 But I did want to get your take on what you thought about it.
01:32:45.000 I think it would be a good idea to protect some of these guys because it's crazy that they're holding them liable for the actions of people that use their platform.
01:32:51.000 Like, there needs to be some semblance of protection for them offering people the ability to speak freely.
01:32:57.000 I guarantee you the reason, though, why they went after him is because they probably sent some demands.
01:33:01.000 Hey, we need access because XYZ. We need to be able to, you know, intercept stuff like that.
01:33:05.000 And he probably told them to fuck off.
01:33:07.000 And that's what it is.
01:33:08.000 Because I'll tell you guys this from my personal experience working in law enforcement.
01:33:11.000 Facebook, Meta in general, and all these social media platforms, they have what's called law enforcement portals.
01:33:18.000 So you're able to go and contact them directly.
01:33:21.000 They have a whole team that just deals with law enforcement, where you contact them and say, hey, I need a subpoena on XYZ account, whatever, and they will go ahead and make it available to you pretty freely if you have court documents, whether it's a search warrant, a subpoena, whatever it may be.
01:33:33.000 What I'm thinking with Telegram is, more than likely is, They weren't cooperative with the French government on maybe some investigations.
01:33:40.000 And they're like, you know what?
01:33:41.000 Fuck that.
01:33:41.000 We need to get this guy in jail.
01:33:42.000 So you're not thinking more conspiratorially that there's anything...
01:33:45.000 I mean, that is a conspiracy.
01:33:47.000 Well, I mean, but...
01:33:48.000 That is a conspiracy.
01:33:49.000 This isn't something more, like, in terms of, like, you know, the U.S. coordinating with NATO. Like, this is some...
01:33:56.000 I wouldn't be surprised if the United States wasn't annoyed with it and had also dealt with this, too.
01:34:00.000 Here's oftentimes how it works is that...
01:34:01.000 You're right.
01:34:02.000 We have...
01:34:03.000 The First Amendment, which was written a long time ago, so it's a huge inconvenience for the people who rule us here in the United States.
01:34:11.000 So what they end up doing is to target American citizens.
01:34:14.000 This actually happened to my boy Jackson.
01:34:16.000 I haven't seen this guy as America.
01:34:17.000 Can we pull him up real quick?
01:34:18.000 I think he's Russian if I'm not mistaken.
01:34:20.000 They'll target you in foreign countries.
01:34:22.000 They'll put you on the Ukraine kill list.
01:34:23.000 They can't kill you here.
01:34:24.000 They'll arrest you in Europe for violating their speech laws or something.
01:34:31.000 They'll hire Colombian mercenaries like they did against Jackson to hunt you down in Venezuela.
01:34:36.000 Yeah, they try to kill them in Venezuela.
01:34:38.000 Right, right, right.
01:34:38.000 So this is the game that they play.
01:34:40.000 They're using their puppet governments abroad to do what they don't have the legal ability to do here.
01:34:47.000 To me, social media is a form of sovereignty.
01:34:52.000 And people critique China's censorship system and stuff, that they only allow their own social media companies to have a foothold there.
01:35:00.000 But it's like, if you want to be a sovereign government that's independent...
01:35:05.000 I think that social media companies should actually just be treated as an extension of the state's sovereignty, honestly.
01:35:11.000 Europe doesn't have its own social media.
01:35:14.000 India doesn't.
01:35:15.000 A lot of countries don't.
01:35:17.000 They're totally dependent on U.S. big tech.
01:35:20.000 And Telegram...
01:35:21.000 How would that work, though, for the adoption of these technologies?
01:35:27.000 What do you mean?
01:35:27.000 Well, because people own them.
01:35:29.000 People have ownership of these technologies.
01:35:32.000 You mean that they're patented?
01:35:34.000 Yeah, wouldn't you essentially have to steal these technologies in order to do that?
01:35:37.000 Well, it depends on how much you care about intellectual property.
01:35:42.000 I personally don't care about it.
01:35:43.000 Yeah, so just steal their tech and adopt it for your state?
01:35:46.000 Yeah.
01:35:47.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:35:50.000 But I was saying like...
01:35:52.000 Communists in ownership.
01:35:54.000 Yeah, intellectual property.
01:35:57.000 Anyway...
01:35:57.000 The government owns this now.
01:35:59.000 It's not yours.
01:36:00.000 Yeah, but Telegram, I think that...
01:36:02.000 Was that actually a Russian company that's in Russia?
01:36:05.000 Yeah, it is Russian.
01:36:06.000 It's Russian.
01:36:06.000 It's a Russian company.
01:36:07.000 Yeah.
01:36:10.000 This is pretty simple, though.
01:36:12.000 He didn't bend the knee.
01:36:14.000 He didn't bend the knee to the government, and as a result, he was put on the selective punishment list.
01:36:19.000 And granted, every company that has these type of, like, I want to say...
01:36:24.000 Appeals you can get, for example, you can post, you can say whatever you want.
01:36:27.000 There's a line that if you cross, you're gonna be peeing lies.
01:36:30.000 But as a result of him not bending the knee, he's what?
01:36:33.000 A target.
01:36:33.000 That's all it really is, bro.
01:36:35.000 Yeah, I think what it was is you just basically didn't give certain governments what they wanted.
01:36:39.000 What they wanted.
01:36:41.000 Okay, so let's see here.
01:36:43.000 It was August 2013.
01:36:45.000 So since 2013, it was founded in 2013 by Nikolai and Pavlov.
01:36:48.000 Oh, it's in the UAE. Okay.
01:36:50.000 Okay, talking about the most popular instant messaging application in parts of Europe, Asia, and Africa.
01:36:54.000 As of 2024, registration of Telegram requires a smartphone and or a limited number of NFTs issued in December.
01:37:00.000 As of July, it had 950 million monthly active users, with India leading in a number of users.
01:37:07.000 Let's see here.
01:37:08.000 Where's it, like, based out of?
01:37:10.000 Is it, oh, headquartered in, okay, Tortola, British Virgin Island.
01:37:14.000 That's legal domicile.
01:37:15.000 Oh, yeah, that's clever.
01:37:17.000 And then Dubai, United Arab Emirates.
01:37:18.000 Texas.
01:37:19.000 Bombokka!
01:37:21.000 Tax, man.
01:37:22.000 And then, obviously, he lives in Dubai.
01:37:25.000 Yo, what about the shorty that he was with, though?
01:37:27.000 We can go to her real quick.
01:37:28.000 I actually posted about this.
01:37:30.000 You know, if you go down, I don't know if it was going to say.
01:37:33.000 This doesn't actually tell us if it's connected to the Russian government.
01:37:36.000 Let me see.
01:37:37.000 Is it St.
01:37:38.000 Petersburg?
01:37:38.000 I don't think it is, bro.
01:37:39.000 You don't think it is?
01:37:40.000 I think because Putin wanted to get control of it, and he didn't want to do it either.
01:37:44.000 Click his name.
01:37:45.000 I heard something like that.
01:37:47.000 I think he owns a couple of...
01:37:48.000 Pavlov Durov.
01:37:49.000 Click his name right there.
01:37:50.000 He's very independent.
01:37:51.000 Here he is.
01:37:52.000 He's a Russian business executive, entrepreneur, investor.
01:37:56.000 What citizenship is he?
01:37:58.000 Okay, so he was born in the Soviet Union in 84.
01:38:03.000 Let's see here.
01:38:04.000 So citizenship.
01:38:04.000 He has Soviet Union, Russia...
01:38:07.000 St.
01:38:07.000 Kitts in Nevis.
01:38:08.000 He paid for that one for sure.
01:38:10.000 He has a UAE one in France.
01:38:12.000 Well, he's worth $11.5 billion.
01:38:13.000 Oh, he's a French citizen.
01:38:14.000 I didn't know that.
01:38:15.000 When he has that kind of money, boy, you want to...
01:38:17.000 Damn!
01:38:17.000 Yeah, $11.5 billion.
01:38:18.000 Legally, avoid taxes.
01:38:19.000 Legally.
01:38:20.000 No, a net worth of $15.5 billion.
01:38:22.000 So, I'm sure somebody's hand is going to get grease for him to walk out of France.
01:38:27.000 Yeah.
01:38:27.000 I wonder how much passports he has.
01:38:29.000 He's got three or four just off that alone.
01:38:32.000 He's smart, man.
01:38:33.000 I'm not surprised, though.
01:38:34.000 Europeans typically hold one or two different citizenships.
01:38:38.000 Yeah, it's common.
01:38:38.000 It's actually very common, and they all speak different languages, too.
01:38:41.000 The whole concept of only speaking one language, guys, to be honest with you, is like an American thing.
01:38:45.000 Like, you're looked at as an idiot everywhere else in the world if you only know one language.
01:38:48.000 It's only in America where we're like, English only!
01:38:51.000 Can we go to...
01:38:54.000 Our friend of honor.
01:38:55.000 Yeah, let's go.
01:38:55.000 We're going to cover the girl that he was with, because I think this is important and should be noted, too.
01:38:58.000 I noticed that this and it wasn't really covered too much.
01:39:00.000 The woman that he was traveling with, this chick, right?
01:39:02.000 During his trips to Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Azerbaijan, Pavel Derov was accompanied by a 24-year-old crypto coach, LOL, and streamer Yulia Vavilova, who resides in Dubai, and was also with him at the time of his arrest in Florida.
01:39:14.000 Up until August 24, she had been actively posting photos on social media from Derov's private jet and various locations where he was present.
01:39:21.000 Um...
01:39:22.000 You know, I commented on this.
01:39:23.000 Scroll down.
01:39:24.000 Does this show my thing?
01:39:25.000 My comment?
01:39:26.000 Dude, I gotta know, though.
01:39:26.000 She got asked or no?
01:39:28.000 We got her Instagram up, I think.
01:39:29.000 What do you think, bro?
01:39:30.000 She got asked or no?
01:39:32.000 I mean, I gotta be, you know, family friendly.
01:39:36.000 But the answer is no, okay?
01:39:43.000 I'll just keep it at that with y'all, bro.
01:39:46.000 When you're in Dubai, you're in the UAE, and you see girls from Eastern Europe there, you should definitely raise an eyebrow, because a lot of times they're working girls, if you guys know what I'm saying.
01:39:59.000 That's the one thing I didn't like about the UAE when I was there.
01:40:02.000 I went there twice.
01:40:02.000 They're all prostitutes.
01:40:04.000 The majority of them, bro, I kid you not.
01:40:06.000 It's fucking crazy.
01:40:07.000 So we're in the Jumeirah Palm area?
01:40:08.000 Terrible.
01:40:09.000 Bro, we walked in there, right?
01:40:11.000 I'm like, okay, there's some baddies in here.
01:40:12.000 Bro, you go talk to them?
01:40:14.000 Yeah, Papi, so, um, how much do you want?
01:40:16.000 Well, they don't say Papi.
01:40:17.000 That's Columbia.
01:40:18.000 Well, tell them we're there from Columbia.
01:40:20.000 No, no, no.
01:40:21.000 Remember there were two, come by the bar.
01:40:23.000 Remember with Sterling?
01:40:24.000 They're from Columbia.
01:40:25.000 And someone from Miami, too.
01:40:27.000 The point is, you go to that hotel, whatever, bro, they're working actively every single day.
01:40:33.000 I suggest for anyone, if you're gonna go to Dubai, don't stay in the Palm area, Palm Jumeirah, because that's where all the working girls are, and if you want a paper box, that's cool, but I hate that shit.
01:40:47.000 Oh, you're talking about that Palm Island?
01:40:49.000 Yeah, because all the hotels and stuff are there, and that's kind of where...
01:40:52.000 Is that the man-made thing?
01:40:53.000 Yes.
01:40:55.000 No.
01:40:56.000 Well, they do have a man-made for residential, but there was also the area where the tourists are where all the hotels are at.
01:41:02.000 So the story here is that she sold him out, or what happened?
01:41:06.000 I think.
01:41:06.000 They haven't said that openly, but she was traveling everywhere with him and is like a typical bimbo.
01:41:11.000 She's like taking pictures and video everywhere.
01:41:12.000 Was he actually a fugitive that was on the run?
01:41:15.000 I don't think he knew that he was under indictment.
01:41:17.000 He got tricked.
01:41:18.000 He was told to come to dinner.
01:41:20.000 And I can understand you, they were tracking her phone the whole time.
01:41:24.000 I thought he did know that he had a warrant.
01:41:26.000 Thought I had read that he did know that he had a warrant.
01:41:29.000 No way.
01:41:30.000 And they told him to come anyway, so it would be no big deal.
01:41:34.000 The president of that country is telling you to come.
01:41:36.000 Yeah.
01:41:36.000 I mean, that's a given.
01:41:38.000 Yeah, you try to deny it, but regardless, this is what I'll say.
01:41:41.000 I'm confident that they were tracking that girl's telephone and or social media because she was posting everywhere and she was with him.
01:41:49.000 I have a question.
01:41:49.000 If you're a billionaire of that status, should your girl be recording where you're at?
01:41:53.000 At all times?
01:41:54.000 Like that?
01:41:54.000 Posting on social media?
01:41:56.000 Nope.
01:41:57.000 Should a good girl be posting your location if you're that status of a billionaire?
01:42:02.000 I mean, it's a violation of privacy.
01:42:06.000 You know, compromises the privacy.
01:42:07.000 Is that his girl?
01:42:09.000 Is that his girl?
01:42:10.000 Is that just some fucking chick he's following?
01:42:12.000 It might be his girl.
01:42:13.000 I don't know.
01:42:14.000 But the thing is, if it's his girlfriend, I don't know what his rules are with that.
01:42:21.000 Well, look, if he didn't know he was a fugitive and he was being hunted or whatever, he didn't care.
01:42:26.000 You know, why would he care?
01:42:27.000 Yeah, that's true.
01:42:28.000 I mean, still, probably if you have that kind of notoriety and net worth, you probably don't want people to know where you're at.
01:42:33.000 Exactly.
01:42:34.000 You think that she gave away his location?
01:42:36.000 Is that, like, confirmed?
01:42:37.000 Well, that's what the speculation...
01:42:39.000 Maybe, you know, inadvertently or...
01:42:42.000 Wasn't he walking himself into France to meet with the French president?
01:42:47.000 Yeah.
01:42:48.000 Yeah.
01:42:48.000 Yeah, but I mean, they definitely could have been tracking, well, probably his stuff too, but like, she doesn't make it easy, she doesn't help, you know what I mean?
01:42:54.000 This is the same thing that happened with PB Rock, right, when he got killed, grew up hosting where they were at and shit.
01:43:00.000 So it's like, or maybe he didn't know.
01:43:02.000 Because sometimes they'll sneak in to take a photo here, a photo here.
01:43:05.000 But still, that's kind of messed up, though.
01:43:06.000 Yeah, girls gotta always document where their eyebrows are.
01:43:08.000 Yeah, I'm not sure that she didn't.
01:43:09.000 I mean, Haas makes a really compelling case here, right?
01:43:12.000 Which is, the president called him and he flew in.
01:43:14.000 I don't know why she was necessary, right?
01:43:17.000 Yeah.
01:43:17.000 She probably wasn't necessary.
01:43:19.000 Remember they're checking where he was at before?
01:43:21.000 Because they knew where he was at.
01:43:22.000 They were saying all these places that he was at, but...
01:43:24.000 Either way, he was tricked.
01:43:25.000 Yeah.
01:43:25.000 I got arrested.
01:43:25.000 But my question is, is he going to be released, you think, or no?
01:43:28.000 Yes.
01:43:29.000 You think so?
01:43:29.000 Yeah.
01:43:30.000 Definitely.
01:43:30.000 Yep.
01:43:31.000 You think so?
01:43:32.000 Um, I have no idea.
01:43:35.000 I mean, I don't know what they want from him.
01:43:36.000 If the condition of his release...
01:43:38.000 Those look like pretty serious charges.
01:43:39.000 I think if he does get released, they're going to take his passport away.
01:43:41.000 Yeah.
01:43:41.000 Or passports.
01:43:42.000 So that I agree with.
01:43:43.000 Yeah.
01:43:44.000 Okay, but if the French government, if the Macronian government can put him out on a $500 million bail, they will.
01:43:52.000 You know what I think?
01:43:53.000 They're going to tell him to, hey, do X, Y, Z. If not, you're staying in jail.
01:43:59.000 Does he still retain control of the company still?
01:44:03.000 He probably, at this point, when you're that high up, bro, you've got people running day to day.
01:44:07.000 You're just chilling and sitting in ice baths and shit, which is what he does.
01:44:12.000 It's a self-running machine.
01:44:13.000 It would have been more convenient if the Russian government controlled it that way.
01:44:17.000 He could not be used by the French government to...
01:44:23.000 French and Russians don't get along like that.
01:44:25.000 No, no, I'm saying because now they could tell him, like, okay, you have to make these changes to your platform as a condition of your release and us taking the charges off you.
01:44:34.000 You have to change your policies on Telegram.
01:44:37.000 That's a fucking problem, man.
01:44:40.000 It's a strong possibility, you know.
01:44:42.000 Yeah.
01:44:43.000 No, I mean, it just sucks.
01:44:45.000 I mean, this is an attack on free speech.
01:44:46.000 I think everybody needs to, like, I actually tweeted this.
01:44:49.000 Chris Pawlowski said, like, hey, you know, you gotta boycott France.
01:44:53.000 And I'm like, yeah, fuck France.
01:44:54.000 Because this is the thing.
01:44:55.000 It starts with this, and then it's a slippery slope that just gets worse and worse and worse.
01:44:59.000 The question is, is free speech still alive?
01:45:02.000 No.
01:45:03.000 I think it's dead.
01:45:03.000 It's been dead.
01:45:04.000 No.
01:45:05.000 What do you think, Andrew?
01:45:06.000 Yeah.
01:45:06.000 Of course.
01:45:07.000 Free speech has only ever...
01:45:08.000 It's always been limited anyway.
01:45:10.000 But now it's worse.
01:45:11.000 And it's going to get worse and worse and worse.
01:45:14.000 But we've got to fight to preserve it, man.
01:45:16.000 It's limited, but free speech was always just a question of how loud you are and who hears you.
01:45:22.000 It's always the parameters that have defined your ability to have speech.
01:45:25.000 And what we call free speech is the limited extent to which you're confined to a limited audience and a limited ability to have them hear you and what you're allowed to say and so on.
01:45:37.000 And every time the line has been crossed, you know, free speech rights meant nothing.
01:45:42.000 They've always been thrown out the window.
01:45:43.000 Well, you know, your ability to speak freely is 100% contingent upon your audience and your influence.
01:45:48.000 Absolutely.
01:45:49.000 If you're extremely famous, you can't say certain things.
01:45:51.000 Look at what they're doing to Andrew Tate right now.
01:45:52.000 See, back in the day...
01:45:53.000 He's been arrested for talking about this stuff.
01:45:54.000 Cable media used to be very centralized, very heavily controlled, you know?
01:45:59.000 So there was no issue of free speech for everyday people or whatever.
01:46:03.000 For sure.
01:46:03.000 Now we all have the reach that cable media used to have, and that's why the First Amendment, they have to, you know, get rid of it.
01:46:10.000 That's why they're going to completely, you know...
01:46:13.000 They're gonna throw it aside.
01:46:14.000 You look at all the biggest celebrities, right?
01:46:16.000 I think what we're saying is that they already have, right?
01:46:19.000 Yeah, yeah, they have.
01:46:20.000 That's already been done.
01:46:21.000 All but in name.
01:46:22.000 You know, when they make the step to in name, literally say, no, there's no First Amendment, there's no Constitution.
01:46:28.000 That's when things get interesting.
01:46:30.000 I mean, when you think of, like, one based A-list celebrity, I can't think of any.
01:46:34.000 No.
01:46:35.000 No.
01:46:35.000 I can't.
01:46:36.000 And there's a reason for that.
01:46:37.000 Used to be Trump.
01:46:38.000 But to be fair, I have a hard time thinking of any.
01:46:41.000 He didn't used to be that base, Trump.
01:46:43.000 He kept it real, though.
01:46:44.000 He would just say what was on his mind.
01:46:47.000 Yeah, but I mean, he was kind of a scumbag Democrat, kind of a typical New York, like, New York billionaire Democrat scumbag.
01:46:55.000 And then what happened with him was, I mean, that escalator ride really did, when he was just like, man, these Mexicans need to get the fuck out of here, right?
01:47:06.000 That was when people were like...
01:47:09.000 They really do need to get the fuck out of our country.
01:47:13.000 You're right.
01:47:14.000 It's 100% correct.
01:47:15.000 And then he started to see, well, wait a second, maybe this guy has some much better opinions.
01:47:20.000 But, I mean, he didn't always.
01:47:21.000 That's for sure.
01:47:24.000 Yeah, I mean, you can be based for a period of time and then they'll shut you down to some degree or arrest you or whatever.
01:47:29.000 That's just what I've realized, is you can't be...
01:47:30.000 This is why you look at someone like The Rock, right?
01:47:32.000 Someone on Smackdown, saying all these crazy things, like Smackdown on you, Smackdown Hotel, all this shit, the crazy one-liners.
01:47:39.000 Then, he becomes an A-list celebrity with all these movie roles.
01:47:42.000 Starts being, like, a fucking, like, he doesn't have views on anything.
01:47:46.000 Joe Rogan brought him on.
01:47:47.000 Bro, worst interview ever.
01:47:48.000 Like, hey, what's your thoughts?
01:47:49.000 Isn't it interesting that our government as a country goes around the world preaching free speech and civil liberties and saying, oh, we're an open...
01:47:57.000 We need to have open democracies and we need to have the free expression of ideas and all this stuff.
01:48:02.000 And then, meanwhile, everything is so tightly controlled that, you know, it...
01:48:07.000 Look, this is going to be controversial for me to say.
01:48:10.000 I am 100% convinced that this is probably the most, in terms of restricting speech, controlled country in the world.
01:48:18.000 In terms of how much is done to limit and control speech on an institutional level.
01:48:24.000 I think the UK, bro.
01:48:26.000 I think...
01:48:27.000 Here's why it's worse in the United States, in my view.
01:48:32.000 It's because when the UK clamps down on it, it's like a legal thing.
01:48:35.000 You do it overtly, right?
01:48:36.000 So it's clear that, okay, this person's speech is being limited because it's illegal, because the government doesn't want them to say this.
01:48:43.000 But when...
01:48:44.000 We're much more manipulated.
01:48:47.000 We are also simultaneously given the illusion that all these celebrities and all the media that we're seeing is actually the free expression of ideas, and that's the content we're getting.
01:48:57.000 I see what you mean.
01:48:57.000 Like, the censorship is invisible to us.
01:49:00.000 It's starting to become more visible.
01:49:02.000 It's not in your face.
01:49:02.000 But the manipulation is very much like behind the scenes, you know?
01:49:06.000 Yeah, and so you mean they have to allocate more resources to it.
01:49:08.000 Absolutely.
01:49:09.000 And so if you have to allocate more resources to it, then it's more oppressed even in the...
01:49:13.000 But I think that that's the wrong way to look at it.
01:49:16.000 I understand what you're saying.
01:49:17.000 Yeah.
01:49:18.000 But it's like saying, well, okay, there you have none.
01:49:23.000 Nothing.
01:49:23.000 So there's no resources allocated to it because you don't fucking get any.
01:49:27.000 And here you get a bowl of gruel.
01:49:29.000 But at least people...
01:49:30.000 But we're going to give you the illusion that it's a steak.
01:49:33.000 It's like, well, there's still gruel, though, right?
01:49:34.000 But here's the thing.
01:49:34.000 People still at least have the benefit of having a better idea of what's going on, though.
01:49:38.000 When you're censoring it overtly, at least I know, okay, this is what's being censored and you're not allowed to say this, right?
01:49:46.000 Yeah.
01:49:47.000 But here, we don't have that.
01:49:49.000 We don't even know exactly what they want people to say and what they're not allowed to say and so on and so on.
01:49:55.000 Again, we're starting to have a better idea of this now because of the age of social media and it's a kind of new niche.
01:50:00.000 But for a long time, it's not exactly clear how much we're actually being controlled to us.
01:50:07.000 There was an invisible line for a while that we didn't know.
01:50:10.000 People crossed it and we're seeing the repercussions of what they did.
01:50:12.000 We actually don't know.
01:50:14.000 Because now that there's social media...
01:50:16.000 They have to overtly sometimes draw the censorship lines.
01:50:19.000 Versus before, when you had to be on a TV network.
01:50:22.000 I remember back in the day, you had to be on TV to be famous.
01:50:26.000 But now, you know what's crazy?
01:50:29.000 YouTubers are more famous than A-list celebrities.
01:50:31.000 A Kai Sanatka will walk down the street and get more attention than an A-list celebrity that's in a movie that's in theaters right fucking now.
01:50:38.000 We've never had that before.
01:50:39.000 We were chilling with actors in Vegas, right?
01:50:41.000 I kid you not.
01:50:42.000 I got more people hitting me for photos and likes than these people.
01:50:44.000 I'm like, Damn, this is a celebrity.
01:50:47.000 Yeah.
01:50:47.000 But then again, it's like streamers and YouTubers are bigger than...
01:50:49.000 Yeah, but if you look at the biggest streamers and YouTubers, they're bots.
01:50:52.000 Let's just be honest here.
01:50:53.000 Kai Sanat is never going to talk about real shit.
01:50:55.000 Logan Paul is never going to talk about real shit.
01:50:57.000 That's an interesting thing.
01:50:58.000 They're going to be very botted.
01:50:59.000 They're controlled.
01:51:00.000 But that's the interesting thing.
01:51:01.000 It's like the Wild West.
01:51:02.000 Like...
01:51:04.000 How much is done to actually make sure that they're in line?
01:51:09.000 Sponsorships.
01:51:10.000 A lot.
01:51:10.000 Money.
01:51:10.000 A lot.
01:51:12.000 Yeah, like how much is actually necessary.
01:51:13.000 But I feel like they could wake up at any moment on the flip of a switch, just go live, and just fucking go crazy.
01:51:20.000 And that risk was, I don't think it was as present for any other, like, celebrity before.
01:51:25.000 Oh, I see what you mean.
01:51:25.000 When the media was centralized, you know, in order to have a big spectacle, you know, you could do something in front of paparazzi or something.
01:51:32.000 You could record a video of yourself and send it to journalists.
01:51:34.000 But you're not going to be in jail on a movie set.
01:51:37.000 Yeah, you're not going to be at the movies or on cable TV doing some crazy shit.
01:51:40.000 I see what you mean.
01:51:40.000 They'll edit it out.
01:51:41.000 I assume the risk is so high.
01:51:44.000 So, like, I wonder if they're doing a lot more to keep these people in line.
01:51:48.000 I'll tell you what they do.
01:51:49.000 Yeah.
01:51:50.000 I'll tell you what they do.
01:51:52.000 With a lot of these people, and I've noticed this when we interview, and I'm not going to say no names, but they'll have a template of what they're going to talk about.
01:51:58.000 They got publicists.
01:52:00.000 They got people that tell them what they can and can't say.
01:52:03.000 And then the other big thing, too, is that when they have these sponsorships, big ones, right?
01:52:07.000 Like a Nike or anything else like that.
01:52:09.000 You have to say certain things to stay away from certain things.
01:52:12.000 I hate to use Kai as an example, but let's use him as an example.
01:52:15.000 He brought Kevin Hart on his shit.
01:52:16.000 Yeah.
01:52:17.000 As soon as he brought Kevin Hart on his shelves, I was like, alright, look, bro.
01:52:20.000 Goodbye to any freedom of speech or anything like that because Kevin Hart is controlled, bro.
01:52:25.000 100%.
01:52:25.000 You don't reach that level of fame unless they control you.
01:52:28.000 That's just what it is.
01:52:29.000 You want a Nike sponsorship?
01:52:30.000 You want to make big money, etc.?
01:52:32.000 They have to have a certain image where you're going to be politically correct.
01:52:35.000 You're not going to talk about issues that might be divisive like voting or Republican or whatever.
01:52:42.000 Yeah.
01:52:42.000 Kai, he said something about, oh, Kamala's people.
01:52:45.000 Yeah, that's it, if anything.
01:52:47.000 He talked about Kamala Harris' campaign, reached out to him or whatever.
01:52:50.000 He's going to probably stay away from politics, and if he does get into it, he's going to take the Kamala side more than likely, because that's more beneficial.
01:52:57.000 Can you blame them, though?
01:52:57.000 I mean, put yourself in their position.
01:52:59.000 They want to excel in the world, become more popular, make money.
01:53:03.000 Why would you ruin your success?
01:53:05.000 Because money isn't everything, bro.
01:53:08.000 As a kid that wants to excel in life, you can't only blame the kid, bro.
01:53:11.000 So here's a question I have.
01:53:13.000 I know celebrities and hip-hop artists, they don't actually have money.
01:53:16.000 They're always kept on a leash where they're never actually able to be independent and just fully retire and be like, I'm done with this.
01:53:24.000 I made enough money.
01:53:25.000 But when it comes to streamers and these new kinds of celebrities...
01:53:30.000 They're in charge.
01:53:31.000 Don't they have more independence?
01:53:32.000 Like, they're like, alright, I made enough money, I have like, you know, tens of millions of dollars in my bank now, I quit, I'm done, I can do whatever the fuck I want now.
01:53:39.000 Like, is there anything to limit that anymore, or how does that work?
01:53:43.000 I mean, I think, like, you look at someone like a Nick Merckx, he came out and said there's like two genders or something, and that was like revolutionary, right?
01:53:49.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:53:50.000 And he got a lot of hit for that.
01:53:51.000 And then Dr.
01:53:51.000 Disrespect came out and agreed with him, and then they exposed him.
01:53:54.000 So, I think once guys make a certain amount of money, they kind of, like, are willing to more speak on these, like, hot-button issues.
01:54:00.000 Uh-huh.
01:54:01.000 But, I mean...
01:54:02.000 Look, man.
01:54:05.000 And this is the problem with social media, is, like...
01:54:08.000 What I've noticed, call me a hater, whatever you want, the people that they push the most, a lot of the times they make idiotic content.
01:54:16.000 Just call it like it is.
01:54:17.000 Idiotic content that isn't thought-provoking, that doesn't necessarily have any thinking or questioning authority.
01:54:22.000 It's young kids' stupid content.
01:54:24.000 It's moronic content, right?
01:54:25.000 Like, you look at Kai Sanat, Speed, etc.
01:54:27.000 Like, these guys, Aiden Ross, whatever.
01:54:29.000 They're not talking about real shit 99% of the time.
01:54:33.000 Because the other thing, too, this is interesting.
01:54:36.000 So, Andrew Tate blows up, right?
01:54:39.000 He's telling young men to go to the gym, be accountable, make money, don't be a fucking brokie, you know, have more entrepreneurial mindset, fight back against the system, what happens?
01:54:48.000 Censored, kicked off every single platform, right?
01:54:52.000 Then you have, like, Kai and Speed doing this shit where we're gonna do Minecraft or whatever for 24 hours, whatever.
01:54:57.000 That gets pushed all over the place.
01:54:59.000 Right?
01:54:59.000 Because I do genuinely believe that.
01:55:00.000 They have a strong incentive to keep young men stupid, dumb, and not aware of what the fuck is going on.
01:55:05.000 Well, if you look at YouTube, to play in your point, I think that YouTube would like to just get rid of all political content, period.
01:55:12.000 Yes, I agree with that.
01:55:13.000 From everybody.
01:55:13.000 And have their nail videos, their kitty cat videos, and their how to fix this dishwasher videos.
01:55:20.000 Because they're all advertiser-safe, and it makes them a fuckload of money.
01:55:25.000 And they don't have to worry about any problems.
01:55:27.000 There's nothing polarizing about, here's how you do your nails, you know, in blue.
01:55:31.000 Nobody's going to freak out about that.
01:55:33.000 So I think that they would prefer to get rid of all political content.
01:55:36.000 And as the side effect of people going over to Rumble, they thought, man, YouTube's losing a lot of these kind of great political streamers who are making millions of dollars for YouTube.
01:55:45.000 They don't give a shit.
01:55:46.000 A drop of the bucket means nothing to them, and it does not, they are not in a million years going to lose a $500 million a year advertising, you know, or advertiser, because the advertiser says, well, you showed my advertisement on a supposedly safe-to-watch video,
01:56:02.000 but it was really an anti-trans political advocate, right?
01:56:06.000 We're pulling out.
01:56:07.000 We can't have that.
01:56:08.000 YouTube's not going to allow that.
01:56:09.000 No way.
01:56:10.000 And I'm glad that you mentioned that because Rumble's lawsuit actually exposed this.
01:56:15.000 Garb or whatever the fuck they're called, this conglomerate of advertisers, they literally said, don't put our stuff on anything Steven Crowder or Alex Jones like.
01:56:25.000 Well, we all know Steven Crowder and Alex Jones lean far more right, right?
01:56:30.000 I'd consider them conservative political commentators, right?
01:56:34.000 And if you're saying, yo, we don't want anything on that type of content, well, guess what?
01:56:38.000 Everyone that leans right is going to be censored.
01:56:41.000 And this is why, we all know this, right-wing political commentators almost always are more censored than left-wing ones.
01:56:47.000 This is why, if you look at all the top political commentators on the right are all on Rumble now.
01:56:51.000 All of them.
01:56:51.000 Even Daily Wire are on fucking Rumble.
01:56:54.000 So that should tell you guys everything you need to know.
01:56:56.000 Well, it's not only that, but going back to something earlier that Fresh said that I wanted to get into, you said, you know, we're kind of learning where the line is now for what is to be censored, what isn't, under these kind of...
01:57:08.000 I don't think so.
01:57:10.000 I think that it takes about a year for you to know if you crossed whatever this Rubicon was that you didn't even fucking know existed.
01:57:18.000 Right.
01:57:18.000 And now you're past that Rubicon, and this big, huge, giant machine is mobilized against you, but it takes a long time to finally snap the jaws shut.
01:57:29.000 Hold on, when I say there's a line, a visible line, it doesn't stop.
01:57:32.000 It's always going, and each new century segment, or for example, topic that comes up, You can cross that line.
01:57:39.000 So it never ends.
01:57:40.000 So to your point...
01:57:41.000 But you know what's crazy about these companies, bro?
01:57:42.000 It's all for profit.
01:57:44.000 If you fuck up the bag for them, you're a problem.
01:57:46.000 Goodbye.
01:57:47.000 And guess what?
01:57:48.000 It's their platform.
01:57:49.000 If you don't comply, it's goodbye.
01:57:50.000 That's what it is.
01:57:52.000 You know, what I've been able to observe is that...
01:57:58.000 For a long time, the anti-woke culture stuff was considered subversive.
01:58:02.000 And that's okay, we're going to censor you because you're hurting people's feelings and you're offending them.
01:58:06.000 And our workplace employees are getting upset about it and they're pressuring.
01:58:11.000 But I feel like that dynamic is weakening.
01:58:13.000 I'm even noticing the direction of the Democratic Party.
01:58:16.000 And it seems like they're leaning a little less on the woke stuff now.
01:58:19.000 And they're kind of muting the volume.
01:58:21.000 Yeah, the sensible Democrats for sure.
01:58:22.000 They're tired of it too.
01:58:23.000 So it seems to me that the real common denominator that they're really going to get you for and really want to censor you for is going to come to what you say about the foreign agenda, the foreign policy.
01:58:35.000 It comes to foreign words.
01:58:36.000 Now, I'm biased, obviously, because this is why I was banned from Twitch, but I kind of feel like my ban was a little unprecedented.
01:58:43.000 I wasn't hurting anyone's feelings.
01:58:44.000 I wasn't hateful.
01:58:45.000 I wasn't bigoted.
01:58:46.000 I wasn't saying anything crazy.
01:58:48.000 I was just reporting on this foreign war in a way that was different from the way the mainstream media was.
01:58:53.000 But then how do you explain, did this happen to Dylan Burns?
01:58:56.000 Dylan Burns gets banned constantly from YouTube for his pro-Ukraine position.
01:59:03.000 But how does he get banned constantly?
01:59:04.000 Wow, he got banned for being pro-Ukraine.
01:59:06.000 I doubt that was the reason, though.
01:59:08.000 No, it's not.
01:59:09.000 What happens is he's giving coverage.
01:59:11.000 Yeah.
01:59:11.000 And there's certain words that you can't use.
01:59:13.000 Yeah.
01:59:14.000 And so you get caught up, right?
01:59:15.000 So that's just a bot that's automated that he's tripping over.
01:59:19.000 Yeah.
01:59:19.000 But in the case of me, we had an entire Washington, D.C., CIA-linked NGO that contacted Twitch and told them that me and Jackson have to be banned.
01:59:27.000 Yeah.
01:59:28.000 Right?
01:59:28.000 Again, we're not saying...
01:59:29.000 But this is a different company now.
01:59:30.000 Right.
01:59:30.000 I understand, but it's like...
01:59:34.000 They don't even necessarily...
01:59:35.000 They will compromise on culture war stuff if they have to, at least in the short term.
01:59:41.000 Maybe they have a more long-term agenda or whatever, but at least in the short term.
01:59:44.000 But when it comes to information about the foreign agenda and the war agenda and the military-industrial complex and things like that, that is where you're really stepping over toes.
01:59:54.000 That's where you're really stepping over toes.
01:59:55.000 Well, it's not just that.
01:59:57.000 I understand what you're saying.
01:59:58.000 That is...
02:00:00.000 That is gradually becoming more and more of a problem.
02:00:02.000 It's really, to me, the main common denominator.
02:00:04.000 Because look, even if you're a right-wing conservative, if you're fully aligned with NATO, just fully...
02:00:11.000 Unless you're saying things that are crazy, like inflammatory, like the N-word or something like that, I don't think you're going to get as much flack.
02:00:19.000 Yeah, you still get banned for going against LGBTQ stuff.
02:00:24.000 You still get banned for going against the domestic cultural agenda as well.
02:00:28.000 You still get banned for that just as much as you used to.
02:00:31.000 It's still just as invasive.
02:00:33.000 The only thing that they've really lightened up on is...
02:00:35.000 Real quick, Twitch viewers, come on over to YouTuber Rumble.
02:00:38.000 Come on over, because Haas is banned.
02:00:40.000 We forgot about that.
02:00:41.000 Don't worry about it, bro.
02:00:42.000 Don't worry about it.
02:00:43.000 Twitch viewers, come on over.
02:00:44.000 Sorry, Andrew, continue on.
02:00:46.000 Yeah, I was just saying that, yeah, I think you still get banned for those things.
02:00:51.000 I think the only thing they backed off on really was just the vaccine stuff.
02:00:55.000 But how does Ben Shapiro have a platform on YouTube?
02:00:57.000 He talks about transgenders.
02:00:59.000 He talks about all this kind of stuff.
02:01:00.000 It's the way in which he does it.
02:01:02.000 Just like the way in which people will give social commentary on foreign affairs.
02:01:06.000 There's a way...
02:01:07.000 I don't think so.
02:01:08.000 I think Jackson...
02:01:09.000 Was very polite, and he was very much not trying to be edgy and shocking.
02:01:13.000 I mean, and to be fair, I was a little like, Putin is good was on my Twitch thing.
02:01:18.000 Like, I was being provocative, right?
02:01:20.000 But he was, he was on YouTube, he grew a way bigger platform than me.
02:01:24.000 See, I mean, see, I can tell you right now.
02:01:25.000 Has a certain hat on, man.
02:01:27.000 I can tell you what is right now, bro, without even going into detail.
02:01:30.000 He's with the agenda.
02:01:32.000 Let me explain.
02:01:33.000 People that are in those spots that are still on YouTube and still on these platforms, talk to people in a communication line that can say to them, okay, don't do this, do this.
02:01:43.000 Yeah, direct to YouTube.
02:01:44.000 It's open communication.
02:01:45.000 You don't have that.
02:01:46.000 So, as a result, whatever you do is considered, oh, He didn't talk to us.
02:01:50.000 We don't fuck with him.
02:01:51.000 Just get him out of here.
02:01:53.000 They can say, hey, listen, that was a mistake.
02:01:54.000 I won't do it again.
02:01:55.000 I'll do it right next time.
02:01:56.000 But there's also ways in which these things are communicated that are considered to be safe by these kind of establishments.
02:02:03.000 And they use coded language, this type of thing.
02:02:06.000 I think the minute they get a whiff.
02:02:07.000 From DHS or whoever's telling him this shit that, oh, this is Russian propaganda, or this is Chinese propaganda.
02:02:14.000 It's like, that's a nuclear bomb.
02:02:15.000 But that's been like that for years now.
02:02:17.000 It's been like that.
02:02:17.000 But I think the thing that's changed at least a little bit since the McCarthy-er of the 1950s, at least, is, like, people who are not connected to the Russian government at all are being called Russian agents.
02:02:28.000 People who are not connected to the Chinese government at all are being called, you know, spreaders of Chinese misinformation.
02:02:33.000 Yeah, but that's the same thing as, oh, they called them conspiracy theorists.
02:02:37.000 People who didn't believe in any conspiracy, but they were called conspiracy theorists.
02:02:42.000 Same idea.
02:02:43.000 I don't think so, because it's like they're treating you as they would like a foreign target and a foreign enemy.
02:02:49.000 Even though you're a US citizen, just because you have views that are repeated by someone in Russia somewhere.
02:02:55.000 Yeah, that might be a distinction, but they always did that, even with communists, right?
02:02:59.000 They always did that.
02:03:00.000 In the 50s, yeah, but it's been kind of quite a while.
02:03:03.000 A little bit.
02:03:03.000 Well, communism's also making a big resurgence.
02:03:06.000 Or at least it was.
02:03:08.000 Breadtube was making a big resurgence.
02:03:09.000 Now, Breadtube's dying off.
02:03:10.000 But you know what's something interesting about that?
02:03:12.000 When communists make a resurgence, I think McCarthy was right.
02:03:16.000 Don't you think something interesting about that?
02:03:17.000 We think, we say, you know, socialist ideas are gaining traction, more people are calling themselves socialists, you know, they want free stuff or whatever, Breadtube.
02:03:26.000 But then, every four years, what happens?
02:03:28.000 Guys, we need to vote Democrat.
02:03:30.000 We need to vote Democrat.
02:03:32.000 It's always just the Democratic Party.
02:03:34.000 It's a way to trick young people who are dissatisfied with the Democratic Party and would otherwise break with it.
02:03:39.000 Into what we need to, yeah.
02:03:41.000 Yeah, and then what they're doing is they're just roping them back in to be Democrats, but they say, oh, you get to be, call yourself a socialist.
02:03:48.000 So you could feel more excited about it and feel like you're doing something different this time, but it's really just corralling people.
02:03:54.000 I agree, but I mean, it follows why that would be so effective.
02:03:57.000 It's just like, how else do we get to this agenda without going for left?
02:04:02.000 In that sense, they're right.
02:04:04.000 How do you get to that agenda without using the political establishment, absent revolution, right?
02:04:10.000 Well, here's the thing.
02:04:12.000 This is what I totally disagree with about.
02:04:15.000 Why is it such an impossible feat to say, let's build a third party?
02:04:20.000 Why is it so impossible?
02:04:22.000 Well, it's not impossible.
02:04:23.000 People have tried it, and we've had third-party candidates who've won.
02:04:25.000 If all of these so-called young socialist voices, all of them pool together with their all, their Hassan Piker, if they all use their resources to say, we actually want socialist politics, we want a third party, we're not going to do the Democrats rigged it against Bernie in 2015, we're going to have our own party,
02:04:41.000 and that actually reflects the values that we talk about while we're on camera, Look, I'm not going to say they're going to get their president elected, but they could easily make an impact on American politics.
02:04:52.000 Yeah, but they would just be the libertarian party for leftists.
02:04:56.000 But the reason they wouldn't do that...
02:04:58.000 It would be bigger than that.
02:04:59.000 They'd say, listen, if you become the libertarian party for the left, as the socialist party, you're going to split the vote of the Democrats, and Republicans are going to win.
02:05:09.000 That's what they'll say.
02:05:10.000 Let me tell you what will actually happen.
02:05:11.000 Okay, so the minute...
02:05:13.000 Anyone gets the idea to do that and talks about it publicly, they are immediately going to be called a Nazi, they're going to be called a Russian agent, they're going to be called a dangerous fascist or something, and they're going to be totally cancelled and suddenly you're going to find out,
02:05:29.000 oh this person is so bigoted and so racist and all these other kinds of things.
02:05:33.000 And it's going to be totally squashed.
02:05:35.000 And who's behind squashing it?
02:05:37.000 Look, we don't have exact one-for-one proof, but it's 100%.
02:05:42.000 It's 100% feds.
02:05:45.000 It's 100% CIA. And if it's not CIA, it's at least some kind of organized, entrenched establishment, which is doing everything in its power to make sure that young people are going to be corralled I'm not saying
02:06:15.000 that it's right Right?
02:06:17.000 I'm just saying from the political perspective of these entrenched powerful agents, it makes sense why they move things that way.
02:06:23.000 We're kind of getting off topic, so please interrupt me if you want to hear this.
02:06:26.000 No, no, no.
02:06:26.000 I mean, it's an interesting discussion that's been brought up because there are people that align with that.
02:06:32.000 And no, they're not going to make a socialist party.
02:06:34.000 They're never going to allow a split vote.
02:06:35.000 I wanted to ask you, I was going to ask you, do you think they rigged it against Bernie in 2015?
02:06:40.000 The Democrat Party?
02:06:41.000 Yeah.
02:06:41.000 Oh, yeah.
02:06:42.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
02:06:43.000 That's what I'm saying.
02:06:44.000 I mean, we were laughing at the time.
02:06:46.000 I was watching, I was laughing.
02:06:47.000 I was like, fuck you, Bernie!
02:06:48.000 You got fucked by the Democrats!
02:06:50.000 Come back!
02:06:50.000 I thought I was hilarious.
02:06:51.000 I don't like Bernie right now.
02:06:52.000 I think he's a total shill, and he's a total sellout.
02:06:54.000 But it's like...
02:06:55.000 He was standing on something that was, I think, left-wing in a way that the Democrats are not.
02:07:03.000 Yeah, a lot of support.
02:07:04.000 He did, among young people, right?
02:07:06.000 Joe Rogan endorsed him, which is huge.
02:07:08.000 If you're going to fucking rig it against him...
02:07:11.000 Why the fuck do any of these young people owe the vote to Democrats?
02:07:14.000 The biggest scam they've been running, and Hasan Piker is 100% culpable in keeping it going, is telling all these fucking young people that they should still be pledging themselves to vote for Democrats, even though...
02:07:26.000 See, they kicked him out of the DNC? Yeah, yeah.
02:07:28.000 The voice of this new socialist generation was totally crushed, ruthlessly.
02:07:35.000 And all of the major influences, they're all bought out.
02:07:38.000 They're all bought and sold and paid for.
02:07:40.000 And their job is to keep people hooked to the Democratic Party, to the establishment.
02:07:46.000 Well, the idea of socialism within the Democrat Party has always just been lip service.
02:07:52.000 They don't want real socialism because they would have to give up their fucking money.
02:07:58.000 They're all bought and paid for.
02:07:59.000 Yeah, they would have to give up their money.
02:08:00.000 They don't want that shit.
02:08:01.000 It's always been lip service in that regard.
02:08:04.000 That's why we always laugh at communists and socialists.
02:08:06.000 We're like, what do you find?
02:08:06.000 These people don't want anything to do with that shit.
02:08:09.000 They're powerful, elite, entrenched.
02:08:11.000 They're not giving up their money.
02:08:12.000 I don't see communists acting like communists.
02:08:14.000 I don't see...
02:08:14.000 I don't see socialists acting like socialists.
02:08:17.000 I see them say that they're socialists.
02:08:19.000 I don't see them acting like...
02:08:20.000 But they're champagne socialists.
02:08:20.000 Just like Bernie Sanders, you know?
02:08:22.000 Like Hassan.
02:08:23.000 If I have a dollar, you have a dollar.
02:08:24.000 I have two dollars.
02:08:25.000 Right?
02:08:27.000 That's what Sanders did.
02:08:28.000 In my view, if he had integrity, he wouldn't have endorsed Hillary Clinton.
02:08:32.000 And I'm saying, we're treading old waters, and it's like, why are you still salty about this?
02:08:35.000 I'm not salty about it, I'm just trying to say like...
02:08:37.000 He sounded a little mad about it.
02:08:40.000 What kind of gets me a little upset is that we're always thinking, oh, the left, the left, the left, there's a left, Hassan.
02:08:46.000 Where?
02:08:47.000 Where's the left?
02:08:48.000 All these people are just liberal Democrat shills.
02:08:51.000 If they were a real left, they wouldn't have forgot about what happened back then.
02:08:56.000 They would have done something about it and reacted to it in some kind of way.
02:08:59.000 Well, the problem is that the left keeps shifting left.
02:09:01.000 What's left today will not be left in the next century.
02:09:05.000 They become more and more radical.
02:09:08.000 At the level of culture, they're definitely becoming more extreme.
02:09:10.000 What are they compensating for?
02:09:13.000 To me, it's like...
02:09:15.000 They're moving away simultaneously from the bread and butter issues that are considered left-wing, that matter, like economic sovereignty.
02:09:23.000 All that matters to leftists is social issues.
02:09:26.000 Yeah, they're doing that.
02:09:28.000 Look right now, Kamala Harris.
02:09:29.000 She's literally campaigning off of abortion is her biggest talking point.
02:09:33.000 That's her biggest thing, and that's what they do.
02:09:36.000 They almost always campaign off of feelings, race politics, and social issues.
02:09:41.000 I feel like the reason I have a little bit of sympathy for some of these left-wing, young people, students, as stupid as they are and libtarded as they are, A lot of these people are students who are in debt.
02:09:54.000 They have no future.
02:09:55.000 They have no prospects whatsoever.
02:09:57.000 And the whole, we're going to forgive the student loans, we're going to forgive your debt and shit that was being promised, they actually believe that shit.
02:10:06.000 And it's crazy how all of these left-wing...
02:10:11.000 Well, some of them do, yeah.
02:10:14.000 Oftentimes they do.
02:10:14.000 Yeah, when you're like, oh, wait, you weren't really going to do that?
02:10:16.000 You just lied to us?
02:10:17.000 Exactly.
02:10:17.000 And we're like, welcome to the right wing.
02:10:18.000 No, no, actually, that's exactly what happens.
02:10:20.000 They realize it was all a lie, and then immediately they go straight to the right wing.
02:10:25.000 But at the same time, there's an interesting question you have to ask yourself.
02:10:30.000 That is also preventing the possibility of them standing on the business of what, you know, they were seeking to before.
02:10:39.000 The thing that's still lost and missing from the equation...
02:10:43.000 Is the actual bread and butter left-wing politics.
02:10:48.000 Yeah, because neither side wants communists and socialists.
02:10:51.000 Neither side wants communists and socialists.
02:10:58.000 I totally agree with that.
02:11:00.000 I'm sure that built into their systems, there's every way they can to suppress the idea of you ever becoming a communist or socialist.
02:11:08.000 Neither side likes them.
02:11:09.000 No, I agree.
02:11:10.000 I just wish there was more honesty about that, you know, on the so-called leftist, you know, influencers and all these.
02:11:17.000 I wish they would just admit that to their audiences.
02:11:19.000 But, I mean, aren't most leftists in policy?
02:11:21.000 He says he's a socialist, but, like, we all know he's a champagne socialist.
02:11:25.000 Yeah.
02:11:36.000 I don't feel like he would have the edge or the popularity that he does.
02:11:39.000 He's keeping people on a false hook.
02:11:41.000 Like, promising them something and pretending to have a politics that he really just doesn't have.
02:11:46.000 Yeah, but most of these guys, I mean, ultimately, you know this, especially having run in those spaces for as long as you did, most of these guys are just status quo advocates.
02:11:55.000 Yeah, by the way, guys, I didn't mean to derail all the...
02:11:58.000 No, it's cool.
02:11:59.000 It's cool.
02:11:59.000 We'll go to the next story.
02:12:00.000 They're all status quo advocates.
02:12:02.000 We've got Andrew Tate next, I believe.
02:12:03.000 Is that what's up next?
02:12:05.000 What's next, Bills?
02:12:06.000 No, I think I said it right.
02:12:08.000 Oh yeah, RFK, shit.
02:12:09.000 We gotta do RFK. Chats too as well.
02:12:11.000 And then we'll hit the chats as well.
02:12:13.000 Alright, let's do chats first, then we'll do RFK. And then, did you have any...
02:12:16.000 I just wanted to finish off your thought.
02:12:19.000 Oh, no, no, I was just saying that most of what you consider the left, I understand what Haas is saying.
02:12:25.000 He's saying, what is real socialism, what is real communism is never given a chance.
02:12:30.000 Not that I'm upset about that.
02:12:31.000 But he's right, it isn't.
02:12:34.000 I mean, even forgetting that, just real, actual left-wing politics.
02:12:38.000 You know, like, even shit, let's just, like, you know, yeah, let's forgive student loan debts.
02:12:42.000 Like, let's actually do that.
02:12:43.000 Yeah.
02:12:44.000 I agree with you that left-wing politics is absolutely dominated by social issues.
02:12:48.000 It almost never actually highlights economic stuff.
02:12:52.000 And I would argue that the economic portions are actually where a lot of their strengths lie.
02:12:59.000 Not the social issues.
02:13:00.000 But they always focus on the social issues because the problem is that...
02:13:05.000 Let's just be honest here.
02:13:06.000 A lot of people on the left want handouts.
02:13:08.000 So if you go ahead and you're like, oh, we're going to deal with these social issues which puts you in a position of power and you're able to get money or whatever, and we're going to protect these certain rights of yours, that's what they do because women and minorities tend to look for social stuff more than economic stuff.
02:13:22.000 No, the handout angle is definitely 100% real.
02:13:24.000 But it's like, at the same time...
02:13:26.000 Free abortions at the DNC. They were giving free abortions and vasectomies at the DNC. They were campaigning on abortion.
02:13:34.000 She spent a whole day, the first full day of the DNC, was talking about abortion.
02:13:39.000 And it's interesting, they brought a couple women to talk about abortion, and all of them cited examples of abortion where it was, I was going to die with a miscarriage, a premature baby...
02:13:49.000 Even in, like, Taliban's Afghanistan, they'll make an exception for you in those cases.
02:13:54.000 Yeah, like, if you're gonna die or something like that, they'll give an abortion.
02:13:56.000 So, like, they gave the most, or sexual assault, they gave all these extreme examples of where abortion is, like, needed, etc.
02:14:03.000 But it's like, okay, that's cool, but, like, let's be honest here, a majority of women that get abortion get it because of bad reproductive choices with the wrong guy.
02:14:11.000 No shit.
02:14:12.000 The other thing, too, is that, like, I love how, like, the left, the DNC, they just kept saying that Trump wants to ban abortion.
02:14:19.000 No.
02:14:19.000 And this is what J.D. Vance has to talk about this in every fucking interview.
02:14:23.000 Hey, are you guys going to get rid of abortion federally?
02:14:26.000 No.
02:14:26.000 They're just going to delegate it to the fucking states.
02:14:28.000 But these guys keep trying to say, oh, well, Trump and them are trying to take it away.
02:14:33.000 They're not.
02:14:33.000 Like, these people need to go ahead and get mad at their governors and their local government.
02:14:37.000 Yes.
02:14:37.000 Most Americans aren't even aware.
02:14:39.000 But you know how stupid they are?
02:14:39.000 Yeah, they believe that.
02:14:41.000 Roe v.
02:14:42.000 Wade was repealed under Biden.
02:14:46.000 So it's like, it's just fucking stupid.
02:14:48.000 Yeah, I know, dude.
02:14:50.000 Well, they blame because their argument is the justices were Trump appointees.
02:14:55.000 But then why did they tell everybody to go vote for Biden in 2020 if it was already too late?
02:14:59.000 Bro, you have to realize our population, most of it, is going to be stupid, bro.
02:15:04.000 No, 100%.
02:15:04.000 Oh, another thing, too, that I've noticed.
02:15:06.000 Mm-hmm.
02:15:08.000 A lot of people are, and especially with women, I've noticed, they're single issue voters.
02:15:12.000 Yeah.
02:15:12.000 So, like, what they're doing is, and I've noticed this because someone went over to the DNC and did a great experiment on this.
02:15:20.000 He said...
02:15:21.000 Would you vote someone in that would tank the economy if they allowed you to keep your reproductive rights?
02:15:27.000 Almost all the girls said, yeah.
02:15:29.000 As long as we get reproductive rights, that's what matters over everything.
02:15:32.000 So that proves, yeah.
02:15:34.000 Yeah, dude.
02:15:34.000 And I know it's crazy to say that, but it's like, that's how important...
02:15:37.000 And that's why the Democrats lean so heavily on fucking abortion, bro.
02:15:41.000 And they keep saying that Trump is trying to take it away.
02:15:43.000 You appeal to women's emotions, what do you get?
02:15:46.000 Results.
02:15:47.000 There's a wisdom in this country.
02:15:50.000 There's two things that will drive the electorate.
02:15:52.000 Two things.
02:15:53.000 Take away the abortion, take away the guns.
02:15:56.000 Those are the two things that are going to drive people.
02:15:58.000 Those are the two most polarizing things, for sure.
02:16:00.000 Those are the things where, like, you don't go for people's guns, you're going to get a backlash.
02:16:04.000 Don't go for the abortion thing, there's going to be a backlash.
02:16:07.000 Those two things are what's going to upset the American population poking the beehive.
02:16:11.000 The parallel here is actually interesting that Haas brings up.
02:16:14.000 You remember the assault weapons ban?
02:16:17.000 Well, I mean, you probably don't remember, but there was an assault weapons ban under Clinton.
02:16:22.000 Yeah, I don't know about it.
02:16:23.000 So it was massively unpopular.
02:16:26.000 It was a huge mistake.
02:16:28.000 Was that for Columbine?
02:16:29.000 No, no, no, no, no.
02:16:31.000 This was a long time ago.
02:16:33.000 It swept all of the Democrats out of office, and Clinton said, okay, this was a terrible mistake.
02:16:40.000 As soon as they possibly could, they got the assault weapons ban repealed because it was just not a good policy, a good national policy, and people fucking hated it.
02:16:49.000 I wonder what simulated that.
02:16:50.000 Was it Waco?
02:16:51.000 Because this is the 90s, got to be, because that's when Clinton was in the 90s.
02:16:55.000 It must have been Waco or one of these other crazy shootings.
02:16:57.000 I don't remember what the context was.
02:16:59.000 I was a little kid.
02:17:01.000 But anyway...
02:17:02.000 It's reminiscent to me of what's going on with abortion right now, which is the same thing, right?
02:17:06.000 Oh, we have this abortion policy which is vastly unpopular, and here's the Republicans suddenly scrambling to, well, we want to distance ourselves a little bit from that.
02:17:18.000 Nope, it's really about bringing it back to the States.
02:17:21.000 Ah, you know, we didn't really want it to go this far, you know what I mean?
02:17:24.000 See, they gotta balance different electorates, because what's something that actually drives one of the electorates to go vote?
02:17:30.000 The evangelicals, who are all about the abortion.
02:17:33.000 The only reason Republicans give a shit about abortion, it's not because they actually fucking care, they don't.
02:17:37.000 They don't give a shit.
02:17:38.000 It's because the base is Christian.
02:17:39.000 It's because, specifically, the evangelical base, you know, really does care about it.
02:17:43.000 And the Catholic base.
02:17:44.000 A lot of evangelicals and Catholics, too, they don't give a fuck about politics.
02:17:49.000 They don't care about it.
02:17:49.000 But if they hear, oh, they're going to ban abortion, they're like, oh, okay, I'll go vote for them.
02:17:54.000 And they don't have to hear anything else.
02:17:55.000 That's it.
02:17:56.000 Yeah, abortion is a very...
02:17:58.000 It's one of those, what I say, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't deal with immigration, too.
02:18:03.000 So it's like...
02:18:05.000 It's very tough.
02:18:06.000 And I think Trump actually made a smart move by delegating it to the states.
02:18:11.000 Hey, we're going to focus on real federal issues.
02:18:13.000 You don't agree?
02:18:14.000 No, I think that Trump should have said, Project 2025, I love it.
02:18:20.000 I agree with you, you should have said that.
02:18:21.000 Get these fucking immigrants out of here, by the way, we're building the wall.
02:18:25.000 Five times higher this time, right?
02:18:27.000 As high as we can possibly get it.
02:18:29.000 I think he should have said, yeah, they haven't done enough to outlaw abortion.
02:18:33.000 We need to take it all the way.
02:18:34.000 He really needed...
02:18:36.000 This is our project 2025.
02:18:37.000 He needed to double down.
02:18:39.000 If he had said to make abortion great again, he would have won.
02:18:42.000 I'm the same, bro.
02:18:43.000 What he needed to do was double down on all of these policies.
02:18:46.000 If he had doubled down on all of his original policies, and he doubled down and said, no, we're going to stay the course, even if it costs us everything, abortion is out of here, we still would have been able to take this thing, I think.
02:18:57.000 You think so?
02:18:58.000 I don't know, man.
02:18:59.000 A lot of these women are coming in and voting for Kamala because she's going so hard on reproductive rights.
02:19:04.000 You're underestimating women's feelings?
02:19:06.000 I don't underestimate it.
02:19:08.000 And the population of women that there are in America.
02:19:10.000 Look, it's always going to be a narrow election now.
02:19:13.000 Always.
02:19:14.000 Okay?
02:19:14.000 But Democrats have the numbers over the Republicans.
02:19:17.000 They just do.
02:19:17.000 The thing is, though, is that you can still appeal to the white working class man.
02:19:23.000 You still can, even though people have kind of forgotten that this electorate exists.
02:19:29.000 It does exist.
02:19:30.000 And if you appeal to them and say, hey, look, you are still the majority...
02:19:35.000 You are still the majority here.
02:19:37.000 You can go out and vote for these issues which still matter to you.
02:19:42.000 They don't want abortion.
02:19:43.000 They want to keep their guns.
02:19:45.000 They want good economic policies.
02:19:47.000 But Republicans have always had those policies you're talking about, and that never got the white working class man out to vote.
02:19:53.000 I think the thing that was...
02:19:55.000 That's because...
02:19:55.000 No, no, no.
02:19:56.000 They didn't really.
02:19:56.000 Because when they would come out, they would say, we want immigration reform, we want this type of thing.
02:20:01.000 Well, that's what I was going to say.
02:20:02.000 They didn't really have the policies.
02:20:04.000 The main thing that Trump touched on, and this includes the immigration stuff, but it's broader.
02:20:09.000 It's not just immigration.
02:20:10.000 It's NAFTA. It's the trade agreements.
02:20:12.000 It's the trade deals, right?
02:20:14.000 It's the industrial policy.
02:20:15.000 Well, it's no more.
02:20:16.000 What he touched into was no more.
02:20:18.000 Yeah, well, he was basically saying he's going to return the jobs back, he's going to have an industrial policy, and he's going to bring manufacturing back to the United States.
02:20:27.000 Yeah, domesticated.
02:20:27.000 That is really what tapped into it, I think.
02:20:30.000 I think all the other stuff that was exciting on the internet and stuff, that was kind of...
02:20:36.000 You know, you're from Michigan just like me, so you know this as well.
02:20:39.000 It's like, that is really what really brought him into that base.
02:20:43.000 Into the Rust Belt.
02:20:43.000 Well, it's not just that.
02:20:45.000 It was the idea...
02:20:47.000 Could we get back to a status where one person in a family really could make enough to take care of the family?
02:20:56.000 Where you could buy a new car every couple of years because it's domestic manufacturing.
02:21:00.000 Now you're working at that big Delphi car plant, and when you're working there, they give you a free car every three years, right?
02:21:06.000 That's what it is.
02:21:07.000 That's what it moved into.
02:21:08.000 I agree with that 100%.
02:21:10.000 But I also think that the double-down on these positions, the illegal immigration, no more of that.
02:21:17.000 I think, look, sometimes when you double down on the politically incorrect stuff, that is a way to signal to your base, like, yeah, yeah, I don't care what these people say, I'm not going to be bought by them.
02:21:25.000 But if that's all you have to offer, I do think...
02:21:29.000 You are going to be ostracized, you're going to be considered weird, and you're going to mobilize all the young people to destroy you as the villain.
02:21:38.000 And if you don't offer that substantive thing you just mentioned, which is the bread and butter issue that people actually care about...
02:21:47.000 It's not going to be given the necessary context.
02:21:49.000 Yeah, but I think it's a combination.
02:21:50.000 I think you need to have this combination.
02:21:52.000 The reason I think that you need that is I don't think people think that the American dream is achievable.
02:21:57.000 When you're talking about NAFTA, you're talking about outsourcing.
02:21:59.000 That's what immigration is.
02:22:00.000 It's the idea of now we're outsourcing our population.
02:22:03.000 I think going hard on that is totally smart.
02:22:06.000 I agree.
02:22:06.000 Going hard on that is like, yeah, go as far right as you want.
02:22:09.000 But I would say the abortion thing, just because I know how moderate people are...
02:22:13.000 Yeah.
02:22:13.000 And how most people don't identify as religious and most people identify as secular.
02:22:18.000 I think Trump's position on abortion is smart from a strategic standpoint to say, you know what states?
02:22:24.000 You guys fucking deal with it.
02:22:25.000 I don't remember.
02:22:27.000 Here's the thing.
02:22:28.000 Kamala's campaign is running off of saying Trump is anti-abortion.
02:22:31.000 Do you remember?
02:22:31.000 That's what they're running on.
02:22:32.000 You know what the problem is though?
02:22:33.000 And that's how they're gaining votes.
02:22:34.000 Women will say...
02:22:35.000 And then women vote a lot, too.
02:22:36.000 Women will say...
02:22:37.000 If we repeal the 19th, though, then yeah.
02:22:38.000 It's still Trump's fault, even though he gave it to the states.
02:22:41.000 So that's the issue here.
02:22:41.000 But if the claim...
02:22:42.000 What do you guys...
02:22:43.000 Hang on, one second, if you don't mind.
02:22:44.000 If the claim, though, here is...
02:22:46.000 Well, women are so easy to influence and so stupid when it comes to the electorate that they'll basically believe anything...
02:22:52.000 Even if Trump takes this position of moderation, there's no reason for me to think that women won't believe that he's anti-abortion because the fucking Democrats say he's anti-abortion.
02:23:05.000 I don't remember that well.
02:23:10.000 I could be sounding really fucking stupid right now, but in 2016, Was abortion the hot topic of that election at all?
02:23:17.000 I don't think as much as it is today.
02:23:18.000 I don't remember it at all being a hot topic.
02:23:20.000 Do you want to know why it's immigration, Muslim ban?
02:23:22.000 It was that they were claiming the way that they were scaring people.
02:23:27.000 They were like, Trump, he's a crazy guy.
02:23:29.000 He's a racist.
02:23:30.000 He's inexperienced.
02:23:32.000 World War III. We can't let this guy win.
02:23:35.000 He's a clown.
02:23:36.000 Yeah, nuclear war.
02:23:37.000 But I don't remember them leaning too much on the abortion thing.
02:23:41.000 And I think you're right.
02:23:42.000 You want to know why abortion is so big this time?
02:23:43.000 Because Kamala's a female.
02:23:45.000 That's why...
02:23:46.000 Before we even knew that she was going to be the candidate, it was already a big deal.
02:23:53.000 I think it's because they discovered...
02:23:55.000 I think her being a woman has exacerbated it.
02:23:59.000 And a black woman, too.
02:24:00.000 This is the first time they have a chance to elect a woman as a president where they can identify with her on so many levels.
02:24:07.000 She's exacerbated that topic.
02:24:09.000 She's going to win, bro.
02:24:10.000 I believe she's going to win, bro.
02:24:11.000 You guys think so, too?
02:24:12.000 100%, bro.
02:24:13.000 See, look, Trump...
02:24:14.000 How's she gonna lose?
02:24:14.000 They're not ever gonna have the fucking Trump in there, bro.
02:24:16.000 Never.
02:24:17.000 Never fucking, no way.
02:24:18.000 No, again.
02:24:19.000 Yeah.
02:24:19.000 Nothing gets cooked.
02:24:20.000 It's like, it's like...
02:24:21.000 I mean, Hillary was a woman too, right?
02:24:24.000 And it's like, they discovered an Achilles heel from Trump.
02:24:27.000 A really unpopular thing about Republicans from the pre-Trump Republican Party era...
02:24:31.000 It was the abortion stuff.
02:24:32.000 Like, everyone knew that.
02:24:33.000 Trump was kind of casting...
02:24:35.000 He's not a traditional Republican.
02:24:37.000 He's winning the blue-collar, you know, Rust Belt, you know, what do they call him, something Democrat, former Democrats or whatever.
02:24:46.000 And these people are kind of a little more moderate on social issues.
02:24:49.000 You mean like the blue dog?
02:24:50.000 Yeah, the blue dog Democrats or whatever.
02:24:52.000 They're a little more moderate on the social issues.
02:24:53.000 So Trump was not going in the extremes in that direction, right?
02:24:56.000 Yeah.
02:24:57.000 But they discovered how much they could animate all these young, brainwashed people about abortion and these social issues, Roe v.
02:25:07.000 Wade or whatever, the repealing of Roe v.
02:25:09.000 Wade and how much that caused a backlash.
02:25:11.000 That's why it's so important now.
02:25:13.000 That's why they're leaning into it now, because they realized we could hit him on the thing that actually is his Achilles heel, which he didn't even have to worry about in 2016.
02:25:22.000 Right.
02:25:23.000 Well, right, because there's a policy switch here, and it was done by his Supreme Court justices.
02:25:29.000 This policy switch can now be blamed on him because it's his Supreme Court justices which tipped the favor here.
02:25:36.000 So they are attacking him on this.
02:25:38.000 It is a legitimate form of attack because one of the promises of these Supreme Court justices was that this was probably going to happen.
02:25:46.000 This was probably going to happen.
02:25:48.000 I think Trump is a mission impossible.
02:25:50.000 How is he going to win this, bro?
02:25:51.000 How?
02:25:53.000 Well, there's no energy now.
02:25:54.000 Dude, it's like he's a dead walking...
02:25:57.000 He took a bullet.
02:26:00.000 He could have wrote his ticket that night, dude.
02:26:03.000 He could have gone out and he could have had the speech of all speeches and been like, they tried to kill me, these motherfuckers!
02:26:10.000 They tried to kill me!
02:26:12.000 I was at his first speech at the RNC after, and yeah, I'll tell you guys, he could have done better.
02:26:17.000 That was his first speech back at the RNC. Milwaukee fucking, you know, Wisconsin.
02:26:23.000 He could have went hard on that speech.
02:26:24.000 But do you think the Trump of 2016 that didn't go through all the bullshit, Can be the same Trump today?
02:26:30.000 No.
02:26:31.000 Fresh is right.
02:26:31.000 The way he went through, bro, was pure sabotage of the mind and body.
02:26:36.000 Any human being, any man of stature going through that bullshit will be hurt, bro.
02:26:40.000 No, no, no.
02:26:40.000 He's tied up all in the courts right now.
02:26:43.000 They got him by the balls.
02:26:44.000 Another one!
02:26:44.000 He's totally unable.
02:26:46.000 I would give you the concession that he's a changed man.
02:26:50.000 But I wouldn't give you the concession that he could not be the same as he was in 2018.
02:26:54.000 He could.
02:26:54.000 He's just not.
02:26:56.000 Because I think, ultimately, and it's very possible that he's been approached and told, if you lose this, but it just looks like you really tried hard, right?
02:27:07.000 But you lose this thing, all this goes away.
02:27:09.000 I have a question.
02:27:10.000 All this goes away.
02:27:11.000 Why is he going to go to jail if he doesn't win?
02:27:13.000 If you were Trump, could you deal with all that bullshit and still be the same person?
02:27:16.000 Answer that question.
02:27:17.000 No.
02:27:17.000 Well, he's not.
02:27:18.000 We know this.
02:27:19.000 But that's what I'm saying.
02:27:20.000 Who in their right mind could be Trump right now and still be the same Trump?
02:27:23.000 Well, yeah.
02:27:25.000 I think that their psyche would be beat up.
02:27:28.000 But I think that he could still have the same energy policy.
02:27:31.000 You can see him holding back.
02:27:33.000 When I watched the debate, I remember with Biden, I turned to my wife and I'm like, I can tell that this guy wants to just fucking trounce this idiot.
02:27:42.000 I want to get your opinion on this, because you're from Michigan and you probably come from the communities.
02:27:51.000 People tell me that one of the things that regular people didn't like about Trump, I'm talking about elderly people, whatever, is although they liked him and they wanted to vote for him, When he was doing all the things we found hilarious, like going on TV bullying people and calling them names and shit,
02:28:08.000 they didn't like that shit.
02:28:10.000 It's true, but it did not deter them when vote day came for voting for him.
02:28:17.000 Yeah, but I think he kind of realized that that's one of the things that makes him not liked as much by his base.
02:28:23.000 As much as it's counterintuitive to us, because that's what we like him for, he's hilarious, right?
02:28:28.000 But he realized, like, he wants to be more respectable and more serious and more presidential.
02:28:33.000 And that'll take all the things that made him worth voting for?
02:28:37.000 Yeah.
02:28:38.000 You know what I think he's become a politician?
02:28:40.000 Well, this whole brigade of him being publicly called as a criminal or seen as a criminal, people that weren't even, like, haters of Trump were like, damn.
02:28:48.000 I'm going to let a criminal run my country.
02:28:50.000 Hell no.
02:28:51.000 And just that alone with also his current policies and his abortion rights or whatever, that right there, bro, was a nail in the coffin, I think, for Trump.
02:28:59.000 I don't think that...
02:29:00.000 And you can still win.
02:29:01.000 I'm not as much of a dumbassist.
02:29:03.000 I don't think anybody gives a shit about that.
02:29:05.000 I'll tell you how he's going to win.
02:29:06.000 So, here's the thing.
02:29:07.000 He just got Tulsi Gabbard to endorse him, and RFK, which actually, let's go ahead and switch over to the next topic here.
02:29:13.000 We're going to talk about RFK here.
02:29:14.000 For those of you guys that don't know, that's Robert F. Kennedy Jr., son of Robert F. Kennedy Sr., who was killed, I think, in 1968 by Saron Saron, which...
02:29:25.000 We're on YouTube, so I won't go much further than that, but you guys already know what I'm...
02:29:28.000 We know who's talking.
02:29:33.000 Let's go to the RFK story, then I'll read chats after.
02:29:36.000 Alright, let me at least read it.
02:29:38.000 Michigan denies RFK's escape from presidential ballot, right?
02:29:41.000 So as you guys know, RFK last week endorsed Trump.
02:29:44.000 I forget what city he was in, but he came in, he gave a speech.
02:29:49.000 RFK was talking about really going hard after the FDA, the big pharma, etc.
02:29:54.000 He feels as though our children are less healthy than they were before.
02:29:58.000 We have problems, which I agree with him on.
02:30:01.000 Especially with the whole vaccine situation.
02:30:04.000 And he took his name off of the 10 top battleground states, right?
02:30:07.000 And he did that, obviously, so that those votes can go towards Trump.
02:30:11.000 And he's endorsing him.
02:30:11.000 And he's actually going to campaign with him as well, from what I understand.
02:30:15.000 But he got a lot of heat.
02:30:17.000 From the Democratic Party.
02:30:19.000 And some of his family members even turned on him, you know, saying that they disown him and they're angry about it, etc.
02:30:24.000 Because you guys know, Kenny's whole family, his uncle John F. Kennedy, his father, they're all historically Democrats.
02:30:31.000 So for him to, I think he was an independent Right?
02:30:34.000 Because the Democratic Party wouldn't accept him, if I'm not mistaken.
02:30:37.000 They blackballed him.
02:30:38.000 He ran as an independent, and then now he's going ahead and supporting Trump, which is obviously a Republican, so that's a big deal for them.
02:30:45.000 But Arne Kennedy's name will still appear in the Michigan ballot, despite suspending his campaign last week.
02:30:49.000 Why it matters.
02:30:49.000 Kennedy said that last week he would withdraw his name from the ballot and the key swing states to avoid hurting former President Trump's chances in November.
02:30:55.000 But in Michigan, one of the states that could decide the election, it's too late for Kennedy to remove his name, part of the Secretary of State's office.
02:31:02.000 And just so you guys know, there's a couple of different states.
02:31:04.000 It's Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, Florida, Wisconsin.
02:31:10.000 Wisconsin, I think.
02:31:11.000 I'm thinking of all the background states.
02:31:14.000 Where?
02:31:15.000 Is Georgia one?
02:31:19.000 Florida.
02:31:20.000 There's ten main ones, though.
02:31:22.000 State of play.
02:31:22.000 Kenny, who was in the Michigan ballot as the nominee of the Natural Law Party, was nominated earlier this week.
02:31:26.000 The Natural Law Party held their convention to select electors for RFK Jr.
02:31:29.000 They cannot meet at this point to select new electors since it's to pass the primary, Hartman said.
02:31:34.000 The Kenny campaign did not immediately respond to Axios' request for comment.
02:31:38.000 Zoom out.
02:31:38.000 Kenny suspended his independent presidential campaign on Friday, saying he believed that remaining on the ballot in the battleground states would most likely hand the election to the Democrats, with whom I disagree on most existential issues.
02:31:49.000 During his Friday announcement, Kennedy said Trump had asked to enlist me in a second administration.
02:31:54.000 Kennedy told Tucker Carlson in an interview that aired Monday that he was asked to join Trump's transition team, and he's looking forward to that.
02:32:01.000 So this is basically meaningless from my perspective.
02:32:05.000 Meaningless that he suspends the election?
02:32:07.000 No, no, no.
02:32:09.000 I'll explain.
02:32:10.000 Please.
02:32:11.000 And they give the game away.
02:32:13.000 They kind of tell you what the plot is.
02:32:15.000 So he says, look, I can really hurt your chances.
02:32:18.000 In your run here, but on the off chance, because there's no way I'm going to win, but on the off chance you do win, I want an administration where you are going to allow me to have a position in the administration.
02:32:29.000 Democrats aren't going to offer that to him.
02:32:31.000 Yeah.
02:32:31.000 So, very simple.
02:32:32.000 He makes a deal.
02:32:33.000 The deal is, I'll support you.
02:32:35.000 I won't hurt your chances in any of these key states as long as you give me a position in the administration.
02:32:41.000 That's, like, kind of politics as usual.
02:32:44.000 Yeah.
02:32:44.000 I don't think it's particularly meaningful.
02:32:46.000 It wouldn't surprise me if Tulsi Gabbard had something similar with some type of, you know, we're going to get an administrative spot as long as you're out here campaigning and not hurting my chances in these key battleground states.
02:32:57.000 So I don't think that this is meaningful in any way.
02:32:59.000 I don't think it's going to change the outcome of the election in any way.
02:33:02.000 And I think that this was expected.
02:33:04.000 The main things that we have to look at right now are what's going to be the October surprise.
02:33:08.000 Whatever that is, is going to be, I think, fucking insane.
02:33:13.000 Whatever that is going to be that they drop on Trump just before...
02:33:16.000 Taylor Swift endorsing Kamala.
02:33:18.000 Well, I think that whatever the October surprise is, is going to be about Trump.
02:33:23.000 Okay.
02:33:24.000 It's gonna be about Trump.
02:33:25.000 And I don't know if it'll be, like, some bombshell that they drop, but there'll be something that will also, you know, drastically hurt his chances.
02:33:34.000 So you don't think this is important at all that RFK is endorsing him?
02:33:36.000 Not even a little bit.
02:33:37.000 No.
02:33:38.000 Okay.
02:33:38.000 I agree.
02:33:40.000 I disagree with that, and I'll say why.
02:33:42.000 You can go first, yeah.
02:33:43.000 Do you agree that RFK endorsing him is a good thing?
02:33:47.000 Or are they gonna benefit him?
02:33:49.000 I think at least a little bit, I think it could.
02:33:52.000 I'll tell you why.
02:33:53.000 To me, right, personally, I like RFK, despite the fact that I consider myself more, I guess people call me Farre, whatever.
02:34:02.000 Because I like his stance on, because here's the thing with RFK. He's actually pretty damn anti-establishment.
02:34:10.000 And he's very critical of the pharmaceutical companies, the food companies, etc.
02:34:14.000 People call him a conspiracy theorist.
02:34:16.000 That's why the Democrat Party didn't really want to sign off on bringing him on.
02:34:19.000 And I think for Trump, that's good because one of the main criticisms that he's getting is that he's become the politician that he campaigned against in 2016, which is a valid critique.
02:34:29.000 So bringing someone like an RFK who is anti-establishment, who is considered a conspiracy theorist by many, I think that will be good for his campaign because it kind of alludes back to that 2016 campaign that he was.
02:34:41.000 Also, I think it's going to bring a lot of people that were in the middle.
02:34:44.000 RFK is very social media big.
02:34:47.000 He's done a lot of interviews.
02:34:49.000 A lot of libertarians like him.
02:34:50.000 A lot of people that are not really sure where they're going to go like him.
02:34:53.000 He was endorsed by Joe Rogan, which is huge.
02:34:57.000 Even though people say, well, Rogan didn't endorse him as a politician.
02:35:00.000 He just likes the guy, whatever.
02:35:01.000 The point is that Joe Rogan has a huge platform, and there's a lot of people that kind of side with that more libertarian view.
02:35:07.000 He's almost like, I don't want to say as big as a Bernie, but he brings in a lot of those voters that were undecided and don't know where they were going to go.
02:35:16.000 I think, if anything, RFK is going to bring a lot of those people over to Trump, which I think is a W. And then also, he did...
02:35:25.000 You're correct, by the way, as far as giving him a position.
02:35:28.000 He was talking about making RFK the head of overseeing assassination attempts in the United States in the rally when he came out.
02:35:37.000 So...
02:35:38.000 I think it's a good pickup.
02:35:39.000 I think it's a big W for him.
02:35:41.000 It's just business as usual, man.
02:35:44.000 I think, and it's going to bring a lot of people that, because there's a lot of people that hate both candidates, let's be honest.
02:35:48.000 Yeah, there is.
02:35:48.000 There's a lot of people that hate both candidates.
02:35:49.000 I'm not sure that just because he endorses him, whatever he would have siphoned off from Trump is necessarily going to go to Trump.
02:35:57.000 Oh, you think a lot of those people will go come out?
02:35:58.000 I think they will.
02:35:59.000 And not only that, but I think ultimately this was just a CYA deal.
02:36:06.000 It was a, this guy could potentially hurt my chances by even 90,000 votes, which could be critical in some of these areas.
02:36:13.000 Yeah, for sure.
02:36:14.000 I'll just bribe him.
02:36:16.000 Hey, you can't win, right?
02:36:18.000 No, I can't win.
02:36:19.000 Why don't you come work for me instead?
02:36:21.000 Right?
02:36:21.000 Just the classic...
02:36:22.000 I think it was a smart move by Trump.
02:36:24.000 And I think RFK has a lot of...
02:36:29.000 No, well, here's the thing.
02:36:30.000 RFK has a lot of young...
02:36:33.000 Impressible people that follow him that don't trust the government.
02:36:36.000 And RFK can bring those people in to Trump.
02:36:38.000 I think there's still...
02:36:39.000 Is that enough though?
02:36:40.000 I don't think it's enough.
02:36:41.000 Because Trump needs a Democratic vote as well.
02:36:43.000 Heavily.
02:36:44.000 I think he's going to bring some of these guys as well.
02:36:45.000 I definitely think...
02:36:46.000 I think he's going to bring some of them.
02:36:47.000 So look, I definitely think...
02:36:48.000 RFK is very popular, guys, like amongst...
02:36:51.000 No, you're right.
02:36:51.000 People our age group and people that are in tune with social media.
02:36:56.000 Because here's the other thing too about RFK. One last thing and I'll turn it to you.
02:36:59.000 I think of any politician I've seen, he's done the most podcast interviews.
02:37:02.000 Yeah, but what about...
02:37:03.000 He's out there.
02:37:04.000 The thing that fucked him up, though, his voice sounds funny.
02:37:06.000 Yeah, it does.
02:37:07.000 And which a lot of people dislike, but, you know, once you get used to it, you know, you listen to it for a bit, you're like, okay, this guy makes sense.
02:37:13.000 But I think he's going to bring a lot of those people over.
02:37:15.000 But, sorry, go ahead.
02:37:16.000 Those libertarians stay home, though.
02:37:17.000 If they don't have the libertarian candidate to vote for, they stay home.
02:37:20.000 They just don't vote.
02:37:21.000 That is true.
02:37:22.000 Some of them will say, I'd rather not vote.
02:37:24.000 That's a poor RFK, bro, are behind the scenes.
02:37:26.000 They don't want to be out in public at all.
02:37:28.000 I think you can galvanize them and tell them you've got to come out of vote.
02:37:31.000 I don't know, man.
02:37:32.000 But go ahead.
02:37:32.000 What's your take, House?
02:37:33.000 Well, one of the things I definitely think is that it's probably too late.
02:37:37.000 I think this would have been an avenue for Trump to actually have a chance, exactly for the reasons you stated.
02:37:44.000 RFK, I mean, I hate his foreign policy.
02:37:46.000 I hate his pro-Zionism.
02:37:47.000 It's horrible.
02:37:48.000 It's a disaster.
02:37:49.000 I think that really hurt him.
02:37:51.000 When he aligned himself with Rabbi Shmuley, I was like, come on, dude.
02:37:54.000 And it's very strange that he did this, and we can only speculate why.
02:37:57.000 But anyway, look.
02:37:57.000 I think that...
02:37:59.000 Oh, he doesn't have Secret Service protection.
02:38:01.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:38:02.000 I think that if Trump...
02:38:06.000 He represents a lot of those same people that I think were decisive for Trump in 2016.
02:38:11.000 People who care about the bread and butter issues, people who used to kind of vote Democrat.
02:38:16.000 They're not really extreme in terms of their social views.
02:38:18.000 They're just kind of normal people.
02:38:21.000 I think that...
02:38:21.000 I don't think Trump really appreciated the extent to which that the MAGA movement was a political realignment.
02:38:29.000 It wasn't a Republican thing.
02:38:31.000 It wasn't a Democrat thing.
02:38:33.000 It totally discombobulated the political options we have, and it created a new electorate, a lot of whom are apathetic and politically homeless.
02:38:43.000 They're neither party, right?
02:38:44.000 He didn't lean in enough I'm kind of repeating myself a little, but it's like the traditional Republican base, this is a strange phenomenon.
02:38:54.000 I don't know if you're aware of this.
02:38:56.000 It's so interesting because the traditional Republican base actually started going Democrat, the suburban kind of upper middle class, traditional kind of Republicans that you think of as a Republican.
02:39:08.000 They actually were so off...
02:39:11.000 Because of the female vote.
02:39:12.000 Well, also, but they were also so off-put by the class warfare, the indirect class warfare, at least, that Trump was tapping into these deplorable blue-collar, whatever, you know, mechanics or something.
02:39:23.000 They didn't like it.
02:39:25.000 These are the respectable kind of upper-middle class, really conservative in the Tory kind of British sense, like they're squares, basically, you know?
02:39:35.000 They started going more Democrat And there was another direction that was happening, which is that the kind of traditional Democrat blue-collar base is going the opposite direction.
02:39:45.000 And Trump did not really do a lot to accelerate that process.
02:39:49.000 The Democrats consolidated that shift and that realignment.
02:39:52.000 I agree with you that Trump has never fully understood his own phenomenon.
02:39:56.000 Right, exactly.
02:39:57.000 But Steve Bannon and guys like that did.
02:40:00.000 Steve Bannon was a guy, he learned all about this through World of Warcraft, interestingly enough.
02:40:06.000 He learned through understanding, because he bought up this massive company that did gold farming on World of Warcraft.
02:40:13.000 Not kidding.
02:40:14.000 Wow.
02:40:14.000 Did gold farming.
02:40:15.000 They basically go and get all the items and then sell them.
02:40:18.000 And then they would sell them.
02:40:19.000 Well, they'd get all the gold, they'd sell all the gold for real money, right?
02:40:23.000 Well, he found out that he could...
02:40:25.000 There's a massive article about this I can send that you can post up on whatever your site is, wherever you put it.
02:40:29.000 He just got out, right?
02:40:30.000 Didn't he just get out?
02:40:31.000 Yeah, but it's really interesting.
02:40:33.000 He utilized a lot of what he learned about basically messing with the economy inside of the game in order to mobilize people into their various frustrations and this kind of thing.
02:40:45.000 It was an interesting article about it.
02:40:47.000 But Bannon really understood the Trump phenomenon in a way that a lot of other people never really did, which is you really need to tap into the fact that people are way more pissed off than you think, and you can be an outlet for that.
02:41:01.000 You can be an outlet for them to say, this is all bullshit, what's with all the...
02:41:07.000 The immigrants, the bad trade deals, everything is exported.
02:41:10.000 Our jobs are being sent overseas.
02:41:12.000 Everything here is just a copy and paste.
02:41:15.000 It's a McDonald's on every corner, followed by a Subway, followed by a FedEx building.
02:41:19.000 I mean, everywhere you go, if I drop you in any, you know, suburb in the United States or in any strip mall in the United States and you looked around just based on the buildings which were around you...
02:41:31.000 Would you ever know where the fuck you were?
02:41:32.000 No.
02:41:33.000 You wouldn't know which state you were in.
02:41:34.000 You wouldn't know if you were in Tennessee.
02:41:35.000 You wouldn't know if you were in Houston.
02:41:37.000 All the same.
02:41:38.000 You know, it's all the fucking same.
02:41:40.000 And people were very upset about this, and they still are upset about this.
02:41:45.000 The Trump phenomenon was tapping into this idea.
02:41:48.000 Now, it's way broader than that, but I would agree with Haas.
02:41:52.000 That Trump is one of the people who never really understood the phenomenon that he tapped into.
02:41:57.000 His advisors did.
02:41:58.000 Guys like Bannon, who are no longer around.
02:42:00.000 And that's why he's not doing as well as he was doing when he ran his original campaign.
02:42:05.000 Yeah, he has some bad advisors.
02:42:06.000 Haz, you didn't get a chance to talk about the RFK thing.
02:42:08.000 So do you think it's going to help?
02:42:10.000 Do you guys think it's not going to really help in different...
02:42:12.000 I think it will help.
02:42:13.000 What do you think?
02:42:13.000 I think it would have been a step in the right direction much earlier.
02:42:18.000 It's too late now.
02:42:19.000 So you think it's too late?
02:42:20.000 I think so.
02:42:20.000 Okay.
02:42:21.000 Alright, fair enough.
02:42:22.000 It could do something, but not much.
02:42:25.000 I wouldn't say much.
02:42:25.000 You think it's indifferent, it's not going to do anything?
02:42:27.000 No.
02:42:28.000 You agree with him, and I told you guys why I think it'll help.
02:42:31.000 Because I do genuinely like RFK, and I think he will mobilize a silent...
02:42:43.000 I think that will draw them out because I think RFK does have a very strong social media presence.
02:42:49.000 His interviews do very well when he goes on other platforms.
02:42:52.000 He literally just did Tucker yesterday.
02:42:53.000 It's gotten millions upon millions of views already.
02:42:55.000 He's been on Rogan multiple times.
02:42:58.000 And this is something that he doesn't get credit for.
02:43:01.000 I think when it comes to social media marketing and doing interviews, etc., he has the best footprint of everybody.
02:43:06.000 I would argue Vivek does.
02:43:08.000 No, no one trusts Vivek, bro.
02:43:10.000 Hold on, hold on.
02:43:12.000 He's able to galvanize people that were against his side easily through conversation.
02:43:18.000 That is a skill, bro.
02:43:18.000 Yeah, but the problem is that no one trusts Vivek.
02:43:21.000 He's called Vivek the Snaker for a reason.
02:43:23.000 No one trusts him.
02:43:24.000 Because you want to know why?
02:43:25.000 He gives a lot of Obama vibes.
02:43:27.000 Which is the thing.
02:43:28.000 He's a very good speaker.
02:43:30.000 He's very smart.
02:43:32.000 I like him too.
02:43:33.000 Don't get it twisted.
02:43:34.000 I like him too.
02:43:34.000 But a lot of people don't trust him and they think he's a snake.
02:43:38.000 You know, we could really be underestimating the RFK thing when I think about it.
02:43:42.000 I'm telling you, bro.
02:43:43.000 It's just the demographic.
02:43:45.000 If you could get over his voice, because his biggest hurdle is his voice.
02:43:49.000 People hate his fucking voice.
02:43:50.000 I just think the demographic...
02:43:50.000 When you listen to one interview, and then you listen to a second, and you're like, okay, you get used to it.
02:43:55.000 But at the same time, his people are too old.
02:43:59.000 They're like millennial to older crowd.
02:44:02.000 They're our age group, bro.
02:44:04.000 Yeah, but we're old.
02:44:05.000 Late 20s, 30s?
02:44:06.000 That's who he appeals to.
02:44:08.000 But Kamala, I feel like, has this energy, which is really the TikTok.
02:44:13.000 Yes, she does, dude.
02:44:14.000 She has the meme culture, bro.
02:44:16.000 So many of these fucking weirdo losers.
02:44:19.000 These TikTokers were at the DNC, dude.
02:44:22.000 She has the meme culture.
02:44:23.000 And that's exactly what Trump had.
02:44:25.000 In 2016.
02:44:27.000 Yeah, in 2016.
02:44:27.000 Now she has it, bro?
02:44:28.000 Nigga, she got the whole arsenal of stupid dances and shit.
02:44:31.000 Can I say, right now, the right can't meme.
02:44:33.000 At all.
02:44:34.000 At all.
02:44:35.000 It doesn't work.
02:44:35.000 It's done.
02:44:36.000 It's finito.
02:44:37.000 It's like, what the fuck?
02:44:37.000 What happened to this?
02:44:38.000 It used to be really funny, now it's not funny.
02:44:40.000 When censorship was totally lifted on X, the right basically, I feel like, exhausted all of its ammunition.
02:44:48.000 And in terms of the meme stuff.
02:44:50.000 All the extreme positions have been taken out in the open and exhausted memetically or whatever.
02:44:56.000 So there's not a lot of room for the magic there anymore.
02:45:00.000 I just kind of feel like Kamala's whole meme magic is like, you know, excuse my French, it's like, ah, I'm a stupid bitch, whatever, like, it's cute, you know, it's charming, she's an airhead.
02:45:13.000 She's careless, though, but she's carefree, and that's what makes her so charming.
02:45:17.000 It's like legally blonde.
02:45:19.000 Yeah, something, something, some...
02:45:21.000 Legally black.
02:45:22.000 Yeah, yeah, and it's like, there's something about this that people find appealing.
02:45:27.000 It reflects America, the state of America right now.
02:45:29.000 America is blind, carefree, and stupid right now, and it's like going down a spiral of self-destruction.
02:45:35.000 By the way, would anybody actually be surprised if a whore became president?
02:45:39.000 Because I wouldn't be.
02:45:42.000 Kim Kardashian, isn't that the perfect representation of America right now?
02:45:47.000 The Republicans trying to call her a slut actually doesn't help.
02:45:49.000 Hold on.
02:45:49.000 Kim Kardashian.
02:45:50.000 No, it doesn't help.
02:45:51.000 Khartoua.
02:45:51.000 Megan Thee Stallion.
02:45:53.000 Cardi B. All these queens of influence.
02:45:55.000 Taylor Swift.
02:45:57.000 The mass population.
02:45:59.000 Rihanna.
02:45:59.000 All three of course.
02:45:59.000 Support whores.
02:46:01.000 Yeah.
02:46:01.000 And as a result, you're right, the slut comment doesn't hurt her at all.
02:46:05.000 It doesn't hurt her at all.
02:46:05.000 If anything, she's empowered to be a woman of culture.
02:46:08.000 Yeah.
02:46:08.000 That's what it really does, bro.
02:46:08.000 They say that she slept her way to the top, etc.
02:46:11.000 The only people that are going to find that funny and like that stuff are people like us that watch Steven Crowder that like that type of...
02:46:16.000 Because Crowder actually got in trouble for this.
02:46:18.000 Yeah.
02:46:19.000 Funny enough, they kicked him off YouTube for like a week because he had a doll of her humping a Statue of Liberty.
02:46:27.000 To insinuate that she's promiscuous, and she slept away to the top, etc.
02:46:30.000 And they hit them for bullying for that.
02:46:32.000 They hit them for cyberbullying for that.
02:46:33.000 I will say, there's an interesting dynamic going on, without getting too much into everything.
02:46:39.000 I've noticed that in the hip-hop industry, female rappers are starting to dominate big time.
02:46:45.000 That's the real up-and-coming next big thing.
02:46:48.000 And if you look at them, they're all 304s.
02:46:50.000 See, there used to be a time when Lil' Kim came out, and I'll never forget this.
02:46:54.000 She came out with an album cover with her legs wide open.
02:46:56.000 Everyone was like, what the fuck is this?
02:46:58.000 It caused a lot of controversy, etc.
02:47:01.000 Like, yeah, she had some radio spins or whatever, but she didn't dominate at all.
02:47:04.000 It was still the male artists, etc.
02:47:06.000 in the 90s.
02:47:06.000 But now, you look at a lot of these female rappers, Nicki Minaj, Kim Sexy Redd, Meg Thee Stallion, etc.
02:47:13.000 Cardi B. These women are, they've all had what?
02:47:16.000 We got our music guys here in the house.
02:47:18.000 All of these girls have had like top 10 on the Billboard, right?
02:47:21.000 Yeah.
02:47:22.000 Versus like, you look at female artists from before, none of them ever hit Billboard like that top 10.
02:47:26.000 But now these women control hip-hop.
02:47:27.000 Yeah, it's like, look, the appeal of original hip-hop was like, you know, you're an outlaw, it's a dog-eat-dog world, you're gonna stand on your own business, and it's you against the world, and that's it.
02:47:39.000 You know, it's like, it's a ruthless world.
02:47:41.000 And I think they were, you know, there was a lot of things that happened where like, okay, it's toxic masculinity, there's too much kind of...
02:47:48.000 Isn't that the same message just coming from the women?
02:47:51.000 Right, but then that's still not been domesticated by the political correctness, so...
02:47:59.000 Well, it is subsumed under it, but it's like, it's still an edge, so to speak.
02:48:04.000 It's the same message.
02:48:05.000 It's just, now I'm empowered.
02:48:07.000 I'm the outlaw.
02:48:08.000 You can't tell me what to do.
02:48:10.000 Do you remember how hard women fought to be where they are today?
02:48:14.000 Do you think for a fact they're going to say, you know what?
02:48:17.000 Trump is smarter for presidency and a man of steel.
02:48:23.000 I'm already going to say, it's the first time we can actually make a choice to make a change as women.
02:48:27.000 Well, she brought Meg Thee Stallion on her first rally.
02:48:29.000 I should tell you guys everything that you need to know.
02:48:31.000 She brought Quavo, she brought Meg Thee Stallion.
02:48:33.000 I don't disagree.
02:48:34.000 I don't think that the average woman wants a female president, to be perfectly honest with you.
02:48:40.000 But...
02:48:41.000 I think in this particular case, I think you're right.
02:48:44.000 I don't see a path to victory for Trump under his current campaign.
02:48:51.000 I really don't.
02:48:52.000 And the most important reason why isn't because I don't think that Trump can't get the votes, because he can't.
02:48:58.000 I think it doesn't matter if he does.
02:48:59.000 They're not gonna fucking let him have it.
02:49:01.000 They're not gonna let him have it.
02:49:02.000 And also, I would prefer Trump to win, just off the basis of common sense and logic.
02:49:07.000 But unfortunately, it's not up to us.
02:49:09.000 It's up to them.
02:49:10.000 Deep stay out.
02:49:11.000 Just saying.
02:49:12.000 Okay, so I'll...
02:49:13.000 Let me read chats and I'll give you guys my take on the path to victory that I think Trump can have here.
02:49:19.000 Because I do think that there's a path.
02:49:21.000 It's narrow, but I'll tell you guys here in a second.
02:49:24.000 Decrypting messages from Telegram with current tech will take millions of years.
02:49:27.000 Even if we had quantum competing, it would take decades.
02:49:29.000 The only way is having the phone of the person.
02:49:31.000 Yes, this is true.
02:49:32.000 Thank you, Jenston Mirror.
02:49:34.000 You've got to have the person's phone.
02:49:36.000 Wait, what?
02:49:36.000 Something more fresh?
02:49:37.000 Damn, she got no ass.
02:49:38.000 Okay.
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02:49:58.000 What else we got here?
02:49:59.000 Fresh, be the special guest one time and enlighten us about the prophecies of the Bible.
02:50:03.000 You know, all the end of time stuff.
02:50:05.000 What's supposed to happen?
02:50:06.000 What has happened and all that?
02:50:08.000 Scare us, nigga.
02:50:09.000 We can do that, bro.
02:50:09.000 You know what's crazy?
02:50:10.000 In Bible study back in the day when I was a kid, they played the movie Left Behind.
02:50:14.000 How about you and Andrew do it?
02:50:16.000 You guys are both, well, he's orthodox.
02:50:19.000 I don't know what your eschatology is.
02:50:22.000 So, I'm more of an independent.
02:50:25.000 Let me explain.
02:50:26.000 What were you raised with?
02:50:28.000 Pentecostal.
02:50:29.000 Oh, that's scarier than...
02:50:30.000 But hold on.
02:50:31.000 Hold on.
02:50:33.000 I saw what it was for what it was.
02:50:36.000 Meaning that it's all a bunch of like...
02:50:38.000 Ooh, Holy Spirit.
02:50:40.000 Understandable.
02:50:40.000 But I then saw non-denominational Christianity as a way to see what the Bible really says, right?
02:50:46.000 But to go a little bit further, they'll play in Bible study these three movies.
02:50:51.000 Left Behind 1, 2, and 3.
02:50:53.000 What it is is a movie telling of end-time prophecy coming true in real life.
02:50:57.000 Antichrist coming back to the world.
02:50:59.000 And that's pre-tribulation rapture.
02:51:01.000 Yes.
02:51:02.000 And a rapture is going to happen where people are taken away from this world and saved before the end time comes fully.
02:51:07.000 Granted, though, as a kid seeing that, you're like, oh, this is a scary movie.
02:51:11.000 Then the pastor's like, no, this is real life.
02:51:13.000 We're like, what?
02:51:13.000 This is going to happen?
02:51:14.000 So that alone scared the shit out of me.
02:51:16.000 Nigga, I was in church every day.
02:51:17.000 So wait, are there any differences between, because he's an Orthodox Christian, and you've seen very, very many differences.
02:51:23.000 With the end of times, you guys look at it differently?
02:51:25.000 Yeah, we look at eschatology for us.
02:51:29.000 The rapture for us isn't a thing, really.
02:51:31.000 Well, no, no, hold on.
02:51:32.000 You know what's crazy?
02:51:32.000 I don't believe in it either.
02:51:34.000 And actually speaking, this is what I'm saying.
02:51:36.000 I'm not based off of a tradition.
02:51:38.000 I'm based off of what the Bible says exactly.
02:51:40.000 Which is very important to me.
02:51:41.000 But granted, though, that movie was scary as hell as a kid.
02:51:44.000 Well, Revelation is not well understood.
02:51:47.000 It's not.
02:51:47.000 And it's very difficult.
02:51:49.000 That's one of the things that Protestants fuck up the worst, because it's so cryptic on purpose.
02:51:55.000 The purpose of it is to not give you the information.
02:52:00.000 That is the purpose.
02:52:01.000 Wait, do you guys agree then, it seems like to me?
02:52:02.000 Because we could do this end of time thing, I guess, for the people one day.
02:52:06.000 Yeah, that would be fun.
02:52:06.000 I'm going for it, bro.
02:52:07.000 Or you guys could give different perspectives.
02:52:09.000 Or you guys could talk to an orthodox eschatologist, but I could give you my taste.
02:52:13.000 Because they want to know the end of times, like, what you guys think.
02:52:16.000 You know what's funny?
02:52:17.000 The people you talk about...
02:52:19.000 That run these companies, all this jargon, aren't the real enemy, bro.
02:52:23.000 Hold on, boys.
02:52:24.000 Yeah, the real enemy hasn't even come yet.
02:52:26.000 I mean, he's here in spirit, but not really fully here.
02:52:28.000 They're just pawns in the whole game.
02:52:30.000 But their agenda pushes towards revelation happening.
02:52:33.000 And it's funny because if you look at what's happening in the Bible, it's happening today as we speak.
02:52:37.000 Which is crazy, by the way.
02:52:38.000 Well, it's actually a really strong argument against atheists, because they can't actually explain why prophecies came true.
02:52:46.000 They just say, well, you were moved into the fulfillment of them because you wanted them to happen.
02:52:51.000 It's like, well, then, wait, then...
02:52:55.000 Isn't that what it says is going to happen though?
02:52:57.000 Which is why I argue if you are atheist or you're a different religion, how do you explain about being so accurate nowadays?
02:53:03.000 It's almost impossible to deny what's happening now.
02:53:05.000 Even what's going on right now with Israel and Palestine, when they're saying, look, we're about to make this big sacrifice of the golden heifer, we're going to remake the temple.
02:53:18.000 It's like...
02:53:18.000 It's on purpose.
02:53:19.000 To fulfill prophecy.
02:53:20.000 Which is what I'm telling you.
02:53:22.000 Fighting an enemy you can't beat is suicide, my nigga.
02:53:25.000 They ain't going nowhere.
02:53:27.000 Well, the people of God ain't going nowhere.
02:53:29.000 So, that's all I'm gonna say.
02:53:31.000 You mean Christians?
02:53:32.000 Yes.
02:53:32.000 Real Christians.
02:53:33.000 Yeah, Christians.
02:53:34.000 Yeah.
02:53:35.000 Yeah, because Israel's not...
02:53:37.000 The people you're trying to fight, they're not important, bro.
02:53:40.000 Trust me.
02:53:41.000 They're not.
02:53:42.000 Alright.
02:53:43.000 They're pawns.
02:53:44.000 What do we got here?
02:53:46.000 Okay.
02:53:47.000 Okay.
02:53:48.000 Cool.
02:53:49.000 WPanel, WFNF, appreciate the political and different perspectives.
02:53:52.000 Somewhat unchained, LOL. Hope to see more of this on Control Chaos.
02:53:57.000 Myron, looking forward to it.
02:53:58.000 Question, Myron, do you think Trump will actually realize JFK documents or an empty promise to RFK? Andrew, if you have to steal a man, what would be the path forward for Trump to win?
02:54:06.000 What steps in your opinion?
02:54:07.000 I don't think you...
02:54:08.000 He said there isn't a path, right?
02:54:10.000 Like, it's...
02:54:10.000 I don't see a path.
02:54:11.000 He doesn't see a path.
02:54:12.000 Oh, look at this with the news.
02:54:14.000 That's funny.
02:54:18.000 I don't know what that means.
02:54:20.000 What does this mean?
02:54:21.000 They're making fun of us with the news thing.
02:54:23.000 That's funny.
02:54:24.000 Go back to the thing real quick.
02:54:27.000 Do you think Trump will actually realize JFK documents are an empty promise to RFK? Here's the thing.
02:54:32.000 Trump saw the JFK documents and he didn't declassify them.
02:54:35.000 I talked about this with Andrew Bustamante, former CIA. He's never seen ever That they would have documents 60 plus years and not declassify them.
02:54:43.000 He says that something is going on and I would say that they don't want the shooters to be identified for obvious reasons.
02:54:49.000 And we talked about this on my, we did a whole podcast about JFK. No, it's on Rumble though.
02:54:55.000 We did the whole JFK stream.
02:54:57.000 Four hours, guys, go watch it.
02:54:58.000 Okay, what else do we got here?
02:55:01.000 Oh, this is me in the gym.
02:55:02.000 Oh, boy, oh boy, where do I even begin my own games?
02:55:05.000 Honey, my pookie bear.
02:55:05.000 What?
02:55:06.000 I have loved you ever since I first saw you.
02:55:13.000 Alright, let's move on.
02:55:18.000 I gotta read this shit.
02:55:30.000 Damn!
02:55:33.000 That's funny, bro.
02:55:34.000 You've got an admirer, bro.
02:55:36.000 Admirer.
02:55:37.000 Rise of the what?
02:55:39.000 Of the planet?
02:55:40.000 The apes!
02:55:41.000 Let's go, my niggas.
02:55:42.000 Appreciate that.
02:55:43.000 That's funny.
02:55:44.000 FNFW for the streams and debates.
02:55:46.000 There are the rumbles that J.D. Vance could be replaced on the Republican presidential ticket.
02:55:50.000 No, they're not going to.
02:55:50.000 This was shown on CNN yesterday.
02:55:52.000 What is your view on the possibility that Vance could be replaced?
02:55:54.000 I heavily doubt that he would replace him.
02:55:56.000 It's too late.
02:55:56.000 I can only hope.
02:55:58.000 I didn't ask you.
02:55:59.000 What's your guys' thoughts on Vance?
02:56:00.000 I never got to ask you guys this.
02:56:03.000 He's extremely unpopular.
02:56:05.000 He was not a popular pick.
02:56:07.000 It was known that he was going to be the pick, but it was not a popular pick.
02:56:11.000 Who do you think you should have won with instead?
02:56:14.000 You know, I'm not sure.
02:56:15.000 I've been asked that question before.
02:56:17.000 Out of the possible picks, I think he would have been better off with RFK, honestly.
02:56:21.000 Really?
02:56:22.000 Wow.
02:56:23.000 Okay.
02:56:24.000 So you think him endorsing him isn't enough?
02:56:26.000 If he had brought RFK in as the vice president, that would have been a better move.
02:56:30.000 That would have been a way better move if he could have done it.
02:56:32.000 And this was suggested to him many times, but they're like, well, wait a second, he doesn't have the kind of inside political clout which is necessary.
02:56:39.000 And it's like, well, but, you know, the whole Pence thing, Pence didn't work out well for Trump.
02:56:46.000 Yeah.
02:56:47.000 Did not work out well for Trump.
02:56:48.000 He should have had an outsider.
02:56:51.000 And that's why they hate J.D. Vance.
02:56:52.000 That's why they dislike J.D. Vance so much.
02:56:54.000 Because, like, bro, you've been betrayed already by your vice president.
02:56:56.000 Why are you going to bring in a guy that was a never-trumper in 2016?
02:56:58.000 Exactly.
02:56:59.000 They're holding a...
02:56:59.000 He might, you know, Pence, he could have authorized that alternative slate of electors, by the way.
02:57:06.000 He could have done that.
02:57:07.000 And then we would have an entirely different nation right now.
02:57:10.000 He could have done that.
02:57:11.000 And guess what?
02:57:12.000 If that ever happened again, if it were to ever repeat, J.D. Convance isn't going to authorize it either.
02:57:18.000 Well, Pence, you could say, this new indictment, he's the chief witness in that thing because it's all on the insurrection is what they're saying.
02:57:25.000 What about you?
02:57:25.000 What are your thoughts?
02:57:26.000 I think he's definitely like a Peter Thiel, scary, DOD type of connected guy.
02:57:33.000 But, you know, I heard something that Tucker Carlson talked Trump out of war with Iran.
02:57:39.000 So, maybe if Trump was chosen as Vice President, you know, that could have...
02:57:43.000 Sorry!
02:57:44.000 I didn't get sleep.
02:57:46.000 If Tucker was chosen as Vice President...
02:57:47.000 Oh no, it would never happen.
02:57:49.000 Well, I don't, you know, I don't see what other options there would be that I would say are, like, positive.
02:57:55.000 Marginally more positive.
02:57:56.000 A lot of people like Ben Carson.
02:57:58.000 Ben Carson.
02:57:59.000 I've heard RFK before too.
02:58:00.000 Ben Carson, wasn't he?
02:58:01.000 The black neurosurgeon.
02:58:03.000 From 2012, the election?
02:58:04.000 I thought he was dead.
02:58:06.000 Now he's still alive.
02:58:07.000 Oh, he ran in 2015 as well.
02:58:09.000 People forgot about him, bro.
02:58:10.000 I thought he was dead too, but he's not dead.
02:58:12.000 Yeah, he's alive.
02:58:16.000 Vivek was also another name that people dropped.
02:58:18.000 Yeah, you're right.
02:58:19.000 People think he's a snake.
02:58:20.000 That is true.
02:58:21.000 They think he's a scammer.
02:58:24.000 Yeah, I think he's a scammer.
02:58:26.000 He made his billions in pharmaceutical, right?
02:58:28.000 But people just think he's a scammer because he kind of has a fake charisma about him.
02:58:33.000 You don't bring on...
02:58:34.000 Because people saw Obama.
02:58:36.000 Because Obama came in on this whole hope thing or whatever.
02:58:39.000 The thing is, it's not even just that.
02:58:41.000 Vivek...
02:58:41.000 Really tries too hard, and everyone can see it.
02:58:45.000 He just tries too hard.
02:58:46.000 You can clearly see he's really trying to sound like a president, like really bad.
02:58:52.000 And it's just, I don't know.
02:58:53.000 That's just me, at least.
02:58:54.000 It's like Uncanny Valley.
02:58:56.000 It's just super inauthentic.
02:58:58.000 He's still better, though.
02:59:00.000 Yeah, I think almost any pick would have been better than Lance.
02:59:03.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:59:03.000 Okay.
02:59:04.000 Fair enough.
02:59:04.000 Yeah, I mean, yeah, a lot of people we're not happy with.
02:59:07.000 I've heard more people not happy with Vance than more people.
02:59:09.000 Why is Vance so hated, though, aside from the obvious?
02:59:11.000 Like, Pence, for example, I'd say is...
02:59:13.000 I would say the never-Trumper.
02:59:14.000 Yeah.
02:59:14.000 That was what fucked him up.
02:59:15.000 Against Trump.
02:59:17.000 That's...
02:59:17.000 And the thing is, is that the MAGA supporters, like Trump's hardcore fans, they dislike anyone that betrayed Trump because they saw, like, what happened with January 6th.
02:59:25.000 They hate Mike Pence.
02:59:26.000 Yeah.
02:59:27.000 Like, anyone that...
02:59:28.000 And they look at it like, bro, why are you repeating history?
02:59:30.000 Did Vance turn on him in J6? After J6? That's a good question, but Mike Lasavita did.
02:59:36.000 What the fuck's his first name again?
02:59:39.000 Lasavita, his campaign manager now.
02:59:41.000 Yeah.
02:59:41.000 Who?
02:59:43.000 Lasavita.
02:59:44.000 His first name.
02:59:44.000 Someone in the chat put it for me.
02:59:47.000 Is it Mike Lasavita?
02:59:49.000 Because when he lost the election, they said that It wasn't stolen.
02:59:53.000 One thing I'm scared of a little bit about Vance, and it's nothing new obviously, but it's like he's a super big war hawk toward China.
03:00:00.000 And Iran.
03:00:02.000 His first interview at the RNC brought up Iran.
03:00:06.000 It's like the anti-China stuff is his big selling point.
03:00:12.000 Chris Lacevita, when Trump lost the election in 2020, he said that the election results were legit.
03:00:17.000 That's why people don't like him either.
03:00:21.000 MAGA, they have a very long memory.
03:00:24.000 And they have a low tolerance for people that they feel betrayed MAGA. So that's why so many people are pissed off.
03:00:30.000 Let's go back to the chats and then we'll...
03:00:32.000 Okay, who can I hit up to join the affiliate program?
03:00:35.000 Uh, Dylan's Noble?
03:00:36.000 On Twitter?
03:00:37.000 Yep.
03:00:39.000 What else we got?
03:00:39.000 On Twitter, GreatKingNoble.
03:00:40.000 Put the link in.
03:00:41.000 Here's a $15 for the WowRis sub?
03:00:43.000 Yeah.
03:00:43.000 Okay.
03:00:43.000 I did.
03:00:44.000 And guys, you're on Castle Club.
03:00:45.000 CastleClub.tv, man.
03:00:46.000 Yep.
03:00:46.000 Let's get another Brandon Carter Money Monday.
03:00:48.000 We'll make that happen for y'all, for one side.
03:00:50.000 I super-chatted last week about watching that resume podcast three times.
03:00:54.000 I'm still not landing a job.
03:00:55.000 I just received an offer yesterday, $27 an hour, and now it's $36 an hour.
03:00:58.000 I still have to take a drug test and background check on my starting date on the 16th, but I have not put my two weeks in.
03:01:03.000 Thank you, guys, for the value provided for free.
03:01:06.000 Fresh, what was the booklet about interviewing called?
03:01:09.000 First, we got it for you.
03:01:10.000 I'm going to get it for you right now.
03:01:11.000 And we got you, Nathan.
03:01:12.000 All right, pick up the dog.
03:01:13.000 She's been trying to get on your lap for a while.
03:01:15.000 Pause.
03:01:15.000 Ow!
03:01:16.000 Okay.
03:01:17.000 W. Chris.
03:01:17.000 What the fuck?
03:01:18.000 Where did y'all get that picture from?
03:01:19.000 Mark, would you suggest building a home or buying a home not as an investor but for a family also?
03:01:23.000 Do you know any mentors in a credit repair business space?
03:01:26.000 Here's the thing, bro.
03:01:27.000 As far as building a home, it's extremely expensive because the materials are expensive.
03:01:29.000 You could think of the war with Ukraine with that one.
03:01:32.000 Because anytime there's a conflict, the price of lumber almost always goes up.
03:01:36.000 So if you could afford to build one, go ahead.
03:01:38.000 But realistically speaking, it might be not worth it to build a home versus just buying one.
03:01:43.000 Especially nowadays with building...
03:01:44.000 And it's probably going to be a buyer's market soon.
03:01:47.000 Yes.
03:01:47.000 Mark, I'm going to set up a crypto dono box for your show.
03:01:50.000 Y'all missing out on crypto donos.
03:01:51.000 I won't much.
03:01:52.000 You're going to talk about Zuck being forced to push a COVID stuff on FB. Also invited Destiny's cousin on the show.
03:01:58.000 All right, Ben.
03:02:00.000 Is that me?
03:02:00.000 I think that's you.
03:02:02.000 Just donate here on Cow's Club, bro.
03:02:04.000 That's the best way.
03:02:04.000 Franchu, you have defined right as entitlement absent duty using the Second Amendment as an example.
03:02:10.000 Would I have a duty not to shoot anyone in cold blood for the First Amendment?
03:02:13.000 Would I have a duty not to slander anyone?
03:02:16.000 No.
03:02:16.000 Why would you have a duty?
03:02:18.000 Well, I think that slander could fall under duty, but slander's not talking shit.
03:02:24.000 Slander is making untrue statements about a person.
03:02:28.000 And I think, essentially, everybody has a duty to not slander people.
03:02:32.000 That's what I would say.
03:02:33.000 You want to be factual.
03:02:34.000 Yeah, you want to be factual.
03:02:35.000 So you shouldn't be saying things which are designed to hurt the reputation on purpose which are untrue.
03:02:42.000 That would be slander.
03:02:43.000 So yeah, you probably shouldn't do that at all.
03:02:45.000 So it's called The Essential Job Interview Handbook by Gene Bauer.
03:02:49.000 There you go.
03:02:50.000 The Russian guy says they should equally allow both sides to post their stories on social media or just ban all content to be posted during elections.
03:02:56.000 Which it probably will.
03:02:57.000 Yep.
03:02:58.000 Trix says, what is the new indictment that Jack Smith is filing against Trump?
03:03:01.000 Aileen Cannon already ruled his appointment was outside of statutory bounds.
03:03:05.000 How can he charge Trump with anything at this point?
03:03:07.000 You're right, bro.
03:03:09.000 Remember, Aileen Cannon is down here in Florida.
03:03:13.000 The new one is out of the Washington, D.C. district, so that's different.
03:03:17.000 It's going to be another judge that has to deal with that one, Trix.
03:03:20.000 Anything else?
03:03:21.000 Okay.
03:03:23.000 I don't want to sound like a doomer, but if they fortified the election against Trump in 2020, what's stopping them from doing it again in 2024?
03:03:29.000 Nothing.
03:03:30.000 Uh-oh.
03:03:30.000 Yeah, that's what...
03:03:31.000 Common sense.
03:03:32.000 That's what Andrew's talking about.
03:03:33.000 Nothing.
03:03:35.000 I think the only thing is that they won't be able to do it in plain sight like they did last time.
03:03:38.000 Actually, Crowder's doing a pretty good thing.
03:03:40.000 Yeah, we'll see.
03:03:41.000 Crowder is actually having the Mug Club guys be out in all the election booths to monitor it.
03:03:46.000 They have a huge push that they're doing, which is cool that they're doing that.
03:03:49.000 They did all that poll watching with Biden and it didn't work.
03:03:53.000 It don't matter, bro.
03:03:54.000 We were watching them put up cardboard and shit.
03:03:57.000 They shut the whole thing down and all the poll watching didn't do anything.
03:04:00.000 When they count the actual votes, that's when you're going to know.
03:04:03.000 Yeah.
03:04:03.000 When they show up in bags.
03:04:05.000 Is it midnight?
03:04:05.000 I don't even think they need a rig at this time.
03:04:07.000 I think Kamala will win, probably.
03:04:09.000 Hey, Myron, I'm striving to be the most accurate pollster for 2024.
03:04:11.000 I'm at 34.5k subs, and I just did a collaboration with one of the top three pollsters in the country.
03:04:16.000 I hit you on X and email your channel.
03:04:19.000 Get back to me soon.
03:04:20.000 More details on my email.
03:04:22.000 What do you mean pollster?
03:04:23.000 I don't think you understand how flooded Myron's emails be.
03:04:26.000 Okay.
03:04:27.000 Where are we at here?
03:04:28.000 Hey, Myron, I'm striving.
03:04:29.000 Okay, we got it.
03:04:31.000 Okay, fellas.
03:04:32.000 This was a great show.
03:04:33.000 Wait, we're not done, nigga.
03:04:35.000 Man, Freshwater's trying to end the show early, man.
03:04:37.000 Nigga, they've been here for hours.
03:04:40.000 Up to y'all.
03:04:40.000 Well, I was going to talk about the path to victory.
03:04:43.000 Oh, okay.
03:04:44.000 And I was going to have your guys take it.
03:04:45.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:04:45.000 And then...
03:04:47.000 A new what?
03:04:49.000 A new one?
03:04:50.000 No.
03:04:50.000 Listen to any clip of Vivek from over a year, years ago.
03:04:54.000 He is a genius ultra-nerd who took election classes, hence the tryhard speak.
03:04:57.000 I like him.
03:04:57.000 Yes, he sounds...
03:04:58.000 He needs to tone down the presidential.
03:05:00.000 If he was really a snake, he would claim to be Christian.
03:05:03.000 Oh, come on, bro.
03:05:04.000 That's messed up, man.
03:05:07.000 I mean, that's a good point, though, right?
03:05:08.000 He's saying, because he's not a Christian, he doesn't claim that he is.
03:05:13.000 If he was really a snake, he probably would claim that he was.
03:05:16.000 That would be more helpful to him.
03:05:18.000 Yeah.
03:05:19.000 Okay, that's what you mean.
03:05:20.000 Okay, here's a pat to Victor, I think, for Trump here.
03:05:26.000 With just being realistic clear, is he gonna fire Lassovita's campaign manager right now or Susie?
03:05:32.000 No, he's not gonna fire them.
03:05:33.000 He's gonna keep J.D. Vance on.
03:05:34.000 So, let's just be realistic here.
03:05:36.000 What I think he needs to do is all in on the debate.
03:05:40.000 It's gonna happen, what, September 5th, if I'm not mistaken, on ABC? He's going to debate Kamala Harris.
03:05:45.000 So, what he's going to need to do, because this is how we demolish Biden, and made him actually drop out.
03:05:53.000 He needs to demolish Kamala on the debate stage, because one thing I've noticed with the debate is that that's how you get these people that are diehard, like, I'm going to vote for XYZ party, that's how you get them over, is when they watch their candidate get absolutely smoked in a debate, in a battle of ideas, I think that's how you're going to be able to bring over Some people that are questioning her on the left,
03:06:14.000 and also bringing the people that are in the middle, which is a lot, by the way, that don't like either candidate.
03:06:18.000 I think that's what they're going to have to do, is he's going to have to demolish her on the debate.
03:06:21.000 And the thing is that he can do it, because she doesn't really have strong policy.
03:06:25.000 She just came out with her policies recently.
03:06:26.000 She's been backtracking a lot of things.
03:06:28.000 First she said she's not going to drill.
03:06:29.000 Now she's saying she's going to drill.
03:06:31.000 She's...
03:06:33.000 He can attack her on a lot of her social policies.
03:06:35.000 I think what Trump needs to do is try to kind of stay away.
03:06:37.000 Well, clarify his position on the abortion.
03:06:39.000 Clarify that 100% because they're attacking him saying that he's against abortion when he's really not.
03:06:44.000 He needs to clarify his position on that.
03:06:45.000 And I think he needs to attack her on the critical race theory and them indoctrinating the whole alphabet community in the schools.
03:06:51.000 Which he wants to eliminate.
03:06:52.000 So Trump is not a strong debater.
03:06:55.000 Never has been a strong debater.
03:06:56.000 But she sucks too.
03:06:57.000 He's good offensively when it comes especially to direct attacks on the character of the individual he's going after.
03:07:07.000 He's extremely good with that.
03:07:08.000 That kind of rhetoric is very effective, especially in politics.
03:07:12.000 If he can hit her with that rhetoric, that's going to be good.
03:07:15.000 But if they stick to issues, he loses.
03:07:18.000 You think so?
03:07:19.000 Yes, because she can just drown him out with an overwhelming, you fucked up COVID, you fucked up the economy, you shut the states down, everything you claim I did...
03:07:30.000 You actually did.
03:07:32.000 It's your fault because you were the one who issued out all of the checks so that people could stay at home.
03:07:37.000 You blame us for it.
03:07:38.000 You did the lockdowns.
03:07:39.000 You were the one who actually made the vaccines.
03:07:42.000 She'll hit him with all of that.
03:07:44.000 She's younger.
03:07:44.000 She's more energetic.
03:07:45.000 What?
03:07:46.000 The victim card.
03:07:47.000 I'm telling you right now.
03:07:47.000 Well, hold on, hold on, hold on.
03:07:48.000 But then you know what he can fire back on?
03:07:50.000 What?
03:07:51.000 You're in office right now, bitch.
03:07:53.000 He's gonna tackle with that.
03:07:54.000 She's gonna go that route.
03:07:55.000 And I've been here fixing here.
03:07:57.000 Let's also remember...
03:07:58.000 Because he can literally...
03:07:59.000 That's the other thing, too.
03:08:01.000 Because here's the other thing.
03:08:02.000 He can literally say, look, you're not even elected.
03:08:05.000 You shouldn't even be here.
03:08:06.000 You're only here because fucking Biden dropped out because he's an idiot.
03:08:08.000 And the reality is that you are in power right fucking now.
03:08:13.000 She's gonna say, you caused these issues.
03:08:15.000 I'm still solving them.
03:08:16.000 Yeah, that's exactly what she's going to say.
03:08:18.000 No, no!
03:08:19.000 Victim car goes all the way, bro.
03:08:20.000 It'll stop all the way.
03:08:21.000 Oh, hold on, hold on.
03:08:21.000 It goes all the way.
03:08:22.000 And then he'll be able to say to that, okay, well, if you're fixing my problems, well, let's talk about the border.
03:08:27.000 And I think he needs to really lean on her being the border czar and attack her on that.
03:08:31.000 Yeah, and she's going to say, we have exported more illegals than your administration did, which is true.
03:08:38.000 There's something I remember about the terms.
03:08:39.000 Oh, you mean deporting more?
03:08:40.000 Yeah.
03:08:41.000 Because more came in.
03:08:41.000 I agree, but it's still a fact that I don't know.
03:08:45.000 Most Americans are idiots.
03:08:46.000 She should debate terms and conditions.
03:08:48.000 So she says no muting.
03:08:49.000 They want to have him sit down.
03:08:51.000 Both of them have to sit down during debate.
03:08:52.000 For some reason she requested that.
03:08:54.000 And no muting, right?
03:08:55.000 Because she doesn't want him to look...
03:08:57.000 Yeah, yeah.
03:08:57.000 Towering over.
03:08:58.000 Ah, yeah, because he is tall.
03:09:00.000 Trump is like 6'4", guys.
03:09:02.000 But that kind of tells me, as far as one of the angles that might be pursued, is like, look, Trump is old.
03:09:07.000 He's not that high energy.
03:09:10.000 Kamala's has more energy, and she's younger.
03:09:12.000 And I just kind of feel like in a debate, she would be able to just say more than he would just because she's, like, younger.
03:09:20.000 Like, he's so old.
03:09:20.000 That's why I disagree with you on that.
03:09:21.000 Yeah.
03:09:22.000 Real quick.
03:09:23.000 She hasn't done any big, hard interviews.
03:09:25.000 True.
03:09:25.000 She's only done rallies and, you know, speaking things where she's not having any reviews challenged and or questioned.
03:09:32.000 Yeah.
03:09:32.000 Whereas Trump has went on adversarial news networks, so does JD Vance.
03:09:36.000 Yeah.
03:09:36.000 But her campaign has done a fantastic job.
03:09:38.000 But this is what they're doing great, by the way.
03:09:40.000 They're...
03:09:41.000 Highlighting her strengths while minimizing her faults.
03:09:44.000 She's not doing interviews.
03:09:45.000 She's using teleprompters.
03:09:47.000 She just recently talked about her policies.
03:09:50.000 It's a great strategy.
03:09:53.000 They're going to have her memorize every debate, possible debate point that would ever come up, the board or everything.
03:09:58.000 They're going to have her memorize it to a T. You're treating her right now.
03:10:02.000 Here's the thing, Tulsi Gabbard already smacked her, which I think is awesome.
03:10:06.000 I think it's fantastic.
03:10:07.000 Here's your notes.
03:10:07.000 Here's the other thing, too, that I think is also great that the Republicans did, is that they were able to get Tulsi Gabbard to endorse them.
03:10:13.000 She smacked Kamala already.
03:10:15.000 Yeah, that's definitely possible because Tulsi's of a similar age.
03:10:19.000 Yeah, but Tulsi Gabbard is much smarter than Kamala Harris.
03:10:20.000 She's objectively a way better debater.
03:10:23.000 And she has a much more aggressive style, and that whole excuse me bullshit that Kamala does won't work on Gabbard.
03:10:30.000 Trump?
03:10:31.000 But on Trump, I am standing up to a bully who's bullying me right now, and I have to be assertive and act like this.
03:10:39.000 That plays off to the cloud really well.
03:10:42.000 You know the issue, though?
03:10:43.000 They're going to say, man of logic that I'm watching, you know what?
03:10:46.000 Trump is going to destroy her.
03:10:48.000 The issue is, again, this is people forgetting.
03:10:51.000 The woman audience, bro, is going to be, she's fighting for our rights, she has our back, even though Trump is winning, he's bullying her.
03:10:59.000 Especially them sitting down, she's going to look so condescending to him.
03:11:02.000 Okay, 20 years ago, I would agree with you, I would say, you know what, you're right, because the mainstream media carries the narrative, because, here's the other thing too that I'm worried about, he's going to be on ABC. We already know, they're left-leaning, they're going to ask questions that are going to favor her, it's going to be fucking biased, right?
03:11:15.000 100% is going to be biased.
03:11:16.000 But here's the difference.
03:11:18.000 We have something called social media now.
03:11:21.000 We have alternative media.
03:11:23.000 They know it.
03:11:23.000 What's going to happen is they're going to watch this debate and a lot of the political commentators, they're going to tell you the truth about who really won and they're going to actually break it down fairly objectively.
03:11:31.000 I think they're going to script it for TikTok.
03:11:33.000 She's going to script it for TikTok.
03:11:34.000 For sure.
03:11:34.000 Do clap back moments and make it all memes.
03:11:36.000 For sure.
03:11:37.000 Destroyed.
03:11:37.000 For sure.
03:11:38.000 Well, hold on, hold on, hold on.
03:11:39.000 Again, like I said before, this is why social media is so powerful.
03:11:42.000 I think he's gonna smoke her so bad that they won't be able to fucking make it look like she wants.
03:11:46.000 It won't matter.
03:11:46.000 Nobody's gonna care about who smokes who because she's gonna have the meme power.
03:11:50.000 Who has the clips of memes?
03:11:50.000 She does.
03:11:51.000 Yeah, exactly.
03:11:52.000 Are you covering that live?
03:11:53.000 Are you covering that live?
03:11:56.000 I'm flying back here for that.
03:11:59.000 We're doing that debate live.
03:12:00.000 Yeah, because I totally disagree.
03:12:02.000 We'll do the pundit thing.
03:12:03.000 None of Kamala's appeal at all comes from her being smart or being well-spoken or being intelligent or having good policy points or arguments.
03:12:14.000 It's literally the fucking airhead, carefree charisma of like, oh, I'm just kind of like a dumb girl Barbie or whatever.
03:12:21.000 And all she has to do is do memes and clapbacks and shit.
03:12:24.000 It's so fucked up, bro.
03:12:25.000 It's true.
03:12:26.000 It's going to make her power level skyrocket for the people that actually like her.
03:12:31.000 So you guys actually...
03:12:32.000 Because I think, number one, he's going to cook her in the debate.
03:12:35.000 I think he's going to attack her policies.
03:12:37.000 He's going to show that she's incompetent.
03:12:39.000 Because you made a good point.
03:12:42.000 She's going to say, I've been fixing your problems for the past four years.
03:12:45.000 He's going to say, you're in office right now and you're not doing anything.
03:12:47.000 No, that's a good point.
03:12:48.000 And you can't do shit.
03:12:49.000 I know what she's going to say, by the way, because this is what all the Democrats are saying.
03:12:52.000 She's the vice president!
03:12:54.000 She doesn't have power like that.
03:12:55.000 It's all Biden.
03:12:56.000 Well, guess what?
03:12:56.000 Biden has said many times, a million times, me and Kamala agree on 99% of things.
03:13:01.000 So effectively, whatever he puts into writing or legislation, whatever the fuck he passes, she's there cosigning on it.
03:13:06.000 And then she's effectively, I would argue, she's had more power than any other vice president that I've seen in recent history because he's been incapacitated for fucking months.
03:13:14.000 This is all objectively...
03:13:15.000 Biden is dying, guys!
03:13:16.000 But you're thinking too logically.
03:13:18.000 You're way too logical.
03:13:19.000 The thing is, objectively, I'm not disagreeing that you're correct.
03:13:23.000 I'm disagreeing that Trump will be able to convey exactly what you just conveyed.
03:13:30.000 The last way...
03:13:31.000 When I just saw him debate with Biden, he was super low energy.
03:13:34.000 It pisses me off that you're saying this, but you're correct.
03:13:35.000 And he goes, well, the thing is, is my administration didn't do that, and we did other things other than that that weren't those things.
03:13:43.000 Yeah.
03:13:43.000 That weren't that.
03:13:44.000 And people were like, dude, fucking hit this guy.
03:13:47.000 What are you doing?
03:13:48.000 Hit him.
03:13:49.000 Hit him.
03:13:49.000 Tell him he's a fucking idiot.
03:13:51.000 Tell him he's retarded.
03:13:52.000 You know, anything.
03:13:53.000 And he barely took advantage of the senility of Biden.
03:13:57.000 And if he had really started pushing hard on Biden, Biden would have collapsed.
03:14:02.000 He wouldn't have even known where the fuck he was.
03:14:05.000 Look, I would agree with you on logic and reasoning.
03:14:08.000 The problem is, your opponents, who are actually going to be against Trump, They don't think logically, bro.
03:14:13.000 They think emotion and rationality to the highest degree of what they feel is right.
03:14:17.000 That's the problem here.
03:14:18.000 I'm looking at their point of view, and if they believe that she's being bullied, she's a victim, oh, she didn't know what's going on, she wins.
03:14:26.000 Everybody fucking hated Clinton.
03:14:28.000 Everybody hated Clinton.
03:14:29.000 She was not a likable person.
03:14:31.000 She never really was a likable person.
03:14:34.000 Harris, she's captured the TikTok imagination.
03:14:37.000 And TikTok is overwhelmingly women.
03:14:39.000 And that's why it's always fucking crazy when you go on there and you join any TikTok panels.
03:14:44.000 They're always insane because it's inside the mind of a woman.
03:14:47.000 You're inside the mind of a woman.
03:14:48.000 That's why it's always wild there.
03:14:49.000 Google Kamala Harris, Google Trump.
03:14:51.000 You're going to see nothing bad about her, everything bad about Trump.
03:14:54.000 Dude, it's crazy, bro.
03:14:55.000 Let's do the experiment right now real quick.
03:14:57.000 Her appeal to the public is so clean.
03:15:00.000 Nigga, how are you going to beat her?
03:15:03.000 TikTok, too, by the way.
03:15:05.000 Well, the reason why it's clean, yeah, let's type in Donald Trump first.
03:15:09.000 Donald Trump.
03:15:10.000 Just type in Donald Trump.
03:15:11.000 Bro, I hate to say this.
03:15:12.000 Let's see what comes up.
03:15:13.000 I want him to win, but, bro, it's almost impossible at this point.
03:15:17.000 Altercation.
03:15:18.000 Special counsel files reworked indictment against Trump.
03:15:20.000 Trump's evangelical supporters just lost their best excuse.
03:15:22.000 Yeah.
03:15:23.000 Right?
03:15:23.000 Now, Google Kamala Harris now.
03:15:25.000 Bro, she is so green, bro.
03:15:27.000 This is real time.
03:15:27.000 We're doing this right now, 1.30 a.m.
03:15:29.000 on fucking Wednesday.
03:15:31.000 Let's see what we do.
03:15:32.000 When we fight, we win.
03:15:33.000 Why Harris wants to unmute Trump.
03:15:35.000 Harris and Walt sit down with CNN for exclusive first joint interview since campaign.
03:15:38.000 Cook, political report shifts in North Carolina.
03:15:41.000 Yo, fuck this shit!
03:15:42.000 Nothing bad.
03:15:43.000 What did I tell y'all about fucking Google, man?
03:15:45.000 Who runs Google?
03:15:46.000 Hold on.
03:15:46.000 Hold on.
03:15:47.000 Shit's fucking crazy!
03:15:48.000 Hold on.
03:15:49.000 No, no.
03:15:49.000 Shit pisses me off looking at this shit.
03:15:50.000 Now watch this.
03:15:51.000 Now watch this.
03:15:52.000 Imagine somebody that doesn't have logical reasoning that sees this.
03:15:57.000 You know what I'm going to say?
03:15:58.000 If I had to choose between less or equal, I'm going to choose come out.
03:16:01.000 And that's the problem with society nowadays, bro.
03:16:03.000 It's what's easier choice and what's comfortable to me.
03:16:06.000 Yo, you literally...
03:16:07.000 You guys, we just Googled it with you guys live.
03:16:09.000 You guys saw that shit?
03:16:10.000 All negative shit about Trump.
03:16:11.000 All positive shit about her.
03:16:13.000 Oh, her first sit-down was CNN! Which is a fucking leftist media company, by the way.
03:16:17.000 Like...
03:16:18.000 They're not going to ask her no hard questions.
03:16:19.000 Why does she go on Fox?
03:16:21.000 Trump and J.D. Vance have won on ABC and CNN a million fucking times, but this bitch can't go on an adversarial news channel?
03:16:27.000 Why can't she go on Fox?
03:16:28.000 She's playing the smart game.
03:16:29.000 And her advisors are telling her what to do, A to Z, and she's following word for word.
03:16:35.000 She is not giving us policies.
03:16:37.000 She is not giving us policies.
03:16:39.000 She is not giving us what she's going to do.
03:16:43.000 She's not giving us anything.
03:16:45.000 She's giving us nothing.
03:16:46.000 And the thing is, that's the best thing she can do.
03:16:49.000 She's above criticism.
03:16:51.000 If she gives you no policy, you can't attack the policies.
03:16:53.000 Look, I think Americans have given us a long time...
03:16:54.000 She just recently gave the House 125k to homebuyers 5,000 tax credits, which J.D. Vance, by the way, came up with that, and she stole it from him.
03:17:02.000 A long time ago, long time ago, at least the new generation of voters do not give a fuck in any serious way about politics.
03:17:09.000 It's literally all vibes.
03:17:11.000 They gave up.
03:17:12.000 The country became so insane and so crazy, especially with Trump getting elected.
03:17:17.000 Just how I feel.
03:17:17.000 Like, like, oh my god, Trump got elected, like, it fried people's brains, and it's like, after that, and Biden is senile, and he's president, and he's literally senile, it's like, people don't care anymore.
03:17:28.000 They're just here for the memes now.
03:17:29.000 Here's one more angle as well, just to make this very clear.
03:17:32.000 The angle that Trump can come at her with, to maybe bully her a little bit in this direction, and call her out, you know what I'm gonna say?
03:17:39.000 Misogynist.
03:17:40.000 Bully.
03:17:43.000 These terms, bro, will shut out a majority of people to vote for Trump.
03:17:46.000 And by the way, by the way, it'll trickle all the way down to the internet.
03:17:50.000 This is why red pill content creators exist.
03:17:54.000 Because this culture of misogyny, which is why they're all Trump supporters, because they hate women.
03:18:01.000 And look at how he treated this woman, who is definitely going to be the next president of the United States, according to them.
03:18:07.000 Look at how he treated her.
03:18:09.000 What a piece of shit.
03:18:10.000 This is the alt-right pipeline.
03:18:14.000 You know what I mean?
03:18:14.000 I can hear it all now.
03:18:16.000 Related to the Red Pill space.
03:18:17.000 Right now, we debate women sometimes on the truth and reality.
03:18:20.000 You know what happens on the show?
03:18:22.000 We tell them the truth.
03:18:23.000 People see it.
03:18:24.000 These people are bad people.
03:18:25.000 Don't talk to them.
03:18:26.000 Imagine Trump on a bigger scale to a massive audience population.
03:18:30.000 Bro, you're cooked.
03:18:31.000 You can't really beat her because now you're a bully and you're misogynist.
03:18:34.000 And you're racist.
03:18:35.000 Even if you win, you lose.
03:18:37.000 He's cooked, bro.
03:18:37.000 I'm telling you, he's cooked.
03:18:40.000 We'll see.
03:18:41.000 I mean, like I said before, I'm excited for the debate.
03:18:43.000 I think they agreed.
03:18:44.000 Did they agree to two or one?
03:18:45.000 Two.
03:18:46.000 Two, right?
03:18:46.000 Yeah, I was told two.
03:18:47.000 Yeah, dude, definitely come for the one in September.
03:18:50.000 Because I think that people really love to watch me and you analyze it, especially.
03:18:53.000 Yeah, that'd be fun.
03:18:53.000 Since we're debaters ourselves.
03:18:54.000 Yeah, I'll do it in person.
03:18:55.000 Yeah, so that'll be fucking fantastic.
03:18:59.000 I covered the debate with Biden and Trump, and people really enjoyed that.
03:19:03.000 So this one will be a good one.
03:19:05.000 Actually, you guys better fucking watch our ones, because we're some of the best debaters on fucking YouTube.
03:19:09.000 You guys better fucking watch it.
03:19:11.000 But that scares me, man, because...
03:19:13.000 You guys are saying, because here's the thing, it pisses me off that you guys are saying this, but you guys are kind of correct that we're going to look at it objectively.
03:19:20.000 Man, he fucking smoked her.
03:19:21.000 This chick didn't fucking actually attack any of his points.
03:19:24.000 You know, she called him a criminal a bunch of times because you best believe she's going to fucking say that shit.
03:19:29.000 You know, he was able to articulate how she stole a bunch of his ideas, how a lot of these things that she's talking about.
03:19:34.000 She should come out and say he emotionally raped me.
03:19:36.000 Yo, bro.
03:19:37.000 Shit like that, bro.
03:19:39.000 She'll say that kind of shit.
03:19:41.000 This was emotional rape.
03:19:43.000 Bro, we cover women topics daily.
03:19:46.000 For years.
03:19:47.000 We know how women operate.
03:19:48.000 Bro, it's only a matter of time until it comes out in the limelight.
03:19:52.000 It's just sad, bro.
03:19:53.000 I want Trump to win, but bro, looking at everything as a whole, I can't even argue with Kamala winning, bro.
03:19:59.000 He's yesterday's news.
03:20:00.000 That's just the truth.
03:20:01.000 He was the big thing in a different era of history.
03:20:05.000 That era has passed, and we're in a new era, and he is obsolete.
03:20:08.000 He's like a dinosaur.
03:20:09.000 And the state will not allow him to win, bro.
03:20:11.000 They want him dead.
03:20:12.000 Is he going to win?
03:20:13.000 No!
03:20:15.000 Here's the other thing, too.
03:20:16.000 She talked about she's going to build 3 million homes.
03:20:18.000 I'm trying to find a tweet where she said this.
03:20:21.000 That's just not feasible.
03:20:22.000 In my head, I'm like, okay, we already have a 5 million home shortage, right?
03:20:27.000 Oh, yeah.
03:20:28.000 Right now.
03:20:28.000 And this is the problem with a lot of these politicians.
03:20:30.000 They don't know shit.
03:20:31.000 Like, they don't understand how real estate works or whatever.
03:20:32.000 She's saying, oh yeah, I'm gonna build three million homes.
03:20:35.000 Bro, are you really gonna build three million homes?
03:20:37.000 Because, number one, we know the price of lumber and building a home is extremely expensive and most contractors actually don't want to build single-family homes.
03:20:43.000 They want to focus on building commercial real estate, building big projects because they get paid more for doing that.
03:20:49.000 Why the fuck are they gonna waste their time and resources building single-family homes, which don't pay that much when the price of labor and materials has gone up?
03:20:56.000 It's not feasible.
03:20:57.000 Right?
03:20:57.000 And then here's the other thing too that she doesn't get.
03:21:00.000 Who's buying the single family homes?
03:21:02.000 I'll tell you who's buying it.
03:21:03.000 It's fucking BlackRock.
03:21:04.000 They're buying all the single fucking family homes.
03:21:06.000 Who runs BlackRock?
03:21:07.000 Larry Fink.
03:21:08.000 Where's he from?
03:21:09.000 We know that.
03:21:10.000 Fucking...
03:21:10.000 So it's like, no.
03:21:12.000 You're not going to be able to...
03:21:13.000 She's making these promises that she simply can't fucking adhere to.
03:21:17.000 Or I'm going to give you guys $25,000 on buying homes.
03:21:20.000 Guess what's going to happen?
03:21:21.000 The people that sell the homes are all going to raise the prices of the house by $25,000.
03:21:24.000 But you know what the issue is?
03:21:25.000 Is that she's making these promises that are impossible.
03:21:28.000 Everyone knows they're impossible.
03:21:29.000 But they sound good.
03:21:31.000 They're not even impossible only because they're not feasible.
03:21:35.000 They're impossible because she would never go against her actual backers and go against the actual people that fund her campaign and shit.
03:21:43.000 The Democrats are bought out.
03:21:45.000 We all know that.
03:21:46.000 She's not going to do all these.
03:21:47.000 Give all these handouts for free.
03:21:48.000 The three million home thing was the biggest.
03:21:49.000 I was like, bitch, you can't do this.
03:21:51.000 But look, here's the thing.
03:21:52.000 Here's the thing.
03:21:53.000 You guys are smart enough to realize that.
03:21:54.000 But you know what's so disastrous, though?
03:21:57.000 Yeah.
03:21:57.000 It's how Trump feeds into it by being like, oh yeah, she's actually going to do this.
03:22:02.000 She's a communist.
03:22:02.000 It's really scary.
03:22:04.000 And she's feeding into her, like, power projection that she's gonna have all these sweeping changes that she is not going to do.
03:22:11.000 If Trump would have said, like, Kamala is corrupt, she's the swamp, she's special interest, whatever, if she, like, leaned on the crooked aspect...
03:22:20.000 He leaned on the crooked aspect he did with Hillary and just used that against her.
03:22:25.000 That'd be so much more powerful.
03:22:26.000 Or incompetence.
03:22:27.000 If he leaned in incompetence, that would have been good.
03:22:30.000 Oh, it's so scary.
03:22:31.000 Kamala Harris is going to herald all of these sweeping changes because everyone loves the fucking system that exists now.
03:22:36.000 We really just want to preserve it as it is.
03:22:38.000 It's like, no.
03:22:39.000 People, even just to see some shit happen, people want some crazy shit to happen.
03:22:44.000 Listen, I think we shouldn't give up on Trump totally.
03:22:46.000 I'm just saying, how the world is right now, bro...
03:22:49.000 Looking at it from an objective standpoint, he's going to either lose Bally because of the world itself, or...
03:22:55.000 No, he's going to win, but they're going to project him as a bully.
03:22:58.000 Well, here's the thing.
03:22:59.000 I mean, I'm voting for him, and everybody in here is voting for him.
03:23:02.000 I'm not voting.
03:23:03.000 Well, not you.
03:23:04.000 I'm not voting.
03:23:05.000 Come on, man!
03:23:06.000 I never voted in my life.
03:23:07.000 I never voted.
03:23:07.000 The art of war is to understand your opponent and know how they're going to move.
03:23:11.000 I don't care about the left at all.
03:23:13.000 I don't care about the Democratic Party, but somebody in Michigan...
03:23:17.000 Bro, your vote actually matters.
03:23:18.000 Let me tell you why...
03:23:19.000 You guys that are in these states...
03:23:20.000 Listen, listen.
03:23:21.000 Like, your vote matters.
03:23:22.000 Your vote definitely matters.
03:23:22.000 This is an electoral college, bro.
03:23:24.000 I'm the one who coined and conceptualized the term MAGA communism, right?
03:23:31.000 So I'm not allergic to MAGA and Trump memes and stuff, but on a personal level, there's a reason I can never vote for Trump on a personal level, and why is that?
03:23:41.000 Because to this day, he still brags about killing Soleimani.
03:23:44.000 I can't have that shit slide, man.
03:23:46.000 Okay, for the audience that was the head of the IRGC. Unforgivable.
03:23:52.000 Iran.
03:23:52.000 Unforgivable.
03:23:53.000 He bombed him.
03:23:53.000 He killed him in 2020.
03:23:54.000 And he still brags about it.
03:23:56.000 He does.
03:23:57.000 Yeah.
03:23:57.000 He does.
03:23:57.000 Well, that ended up getting us attacked in Iraq.
03:24:00.000 He shouldn't have done that, but he did it for we know who.
03:24:02.000 It was so wicked.
03:24:03.000 It was so evil.
03:24:05.000 Soleimani was fighting ISIS. He was considered a hero by many, but it was so despicable.
03:24:10.000 It's so dishonorable.
03:24:12.000 So you'd rather Kamala get in?
03:24:14.000 No, I don't care.
03:24:15.000 I don't care.
03:24:17.000 Shit, man.
03:24:18.000 I don't know.
03:24:18.000 I look at it like, if you're in one of these battleground states, you're in Pennsylvania, you're in Michigan, you're in Arizona, like, bro.
03:24:24.000 Because it's an electoral college.
03:24:25.000 You just got to win 51%, and then you get all the votes of that state.
03:24:28.000 Here's the thing, right?
03:24:29.000 And I'm just going to be totally honest.
03:24:31.000 I don't give a shit if he blew up some fucking ragheads.
03:24:33.000 I don't give a shit.
03:24:34.000 So, I mean, you got to get on a little forum anyway.
03:24:36.000 I don't give a fuck.
03:24:37.000 Yeah.
03:24:37.000 I mean, I know that my vote makes no difference.
03:24:39.000 That's the thing.
03:24:40.000 It's just like, am I gonna...
03:24:41.000 Well, he blew him up for Israel.
03:24:43.000 He was Israel's chief enemy.
03:24:44.000 But it's like, if it's personal, like, I'm gonna wake up on election day and go vote for someone, like, why should I do that?
03:24:50.000 I could just stay home.
03:24:51.000 I understand.
03:24:52.000 I understand.
03:24:53.000 Why should I pretend like I actually make a difference?
03:24:55.000 All this stuff you do.
03:24:57.000 You're in a state that you actually do.
03:24:59.000 Hold on.
03:24:59.000 All this voting talk, bro?
03:25:01.000 Yeah.
03:25:01.000 You know the reality of this scenario here?
03:25:03.000 We could all vote for Trump today.
03:25:05.000 All of us.
03:25:06.000 If they want him not to win, he won't win.
03:25:08.000 Yeah, it doesn't matter.
03:25:09.000 Our vote doesn't even matter.
03:25:10.000 I wish politics was as simple as...
03:25:11.000 Yeah, vote for when you want to.
03:25:13.000 Bro, it's behind the scenes politics.
03:25:13.000 That's the thing, if you're in certain places, your vote matters more.
03:25:16.000 Michigan?
03:25:17.000 Your vote matters more.
03:25:17.000 Bro, it's all fucked up.
03:25:18.000 100%.
03:25:18.000 Why do you think?
03:25:19.000 If you look at their campaign trails, where are they spending most of their time in?
03:25:22.000 They're spending time the most...
03:25:23.000 Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan...
03:25:27.000 Why was the DNC in Milwaukee?
03:25:29.000 Okay, a little bit of conspiracy here.
03:25:30.000 There ain't nothing in Milwaukee.
03:25:31.000 Fuck, it sucks, by the way.
03:25:32.000 They meet before these elections happen.
03:25:34.000 DNC was in Chicago.
03:25:35.000 And don't know who's going to win presidency before it happens.
03:25:37.000 That's what I believe.
03:25:38.000 You know, guys, I can't believe I sound so crazy, but it's like, what if Trump is just a clone?
03:25:43.000 You ever thought of that?
03:25:45.000 That's a little bit late.
03:25:46.000 You might need a cup of coffee.
03:25:48.000 We don't know, but how do I know?
03:25:50.000 I don't know.
03:25:53.000 I don't know.
03:25:54.000 I think I said...
03:26:10.000 We're good to go.
03:26:17.000 Or no, was it 33?
03:26:19.000 No.
03:26:19.000 Allegedly 30 plus women came forward saying that they're new victims in this case.
03:26:23.000 And two are his baby mamas, I believe?
03:26:24.000 And two of them are baby mamas, which I thought was very interesting.
03:26:27.000 So let me get this straight.
03:26:28.000 You're saying that the mother of his children are victims in this human trafficking scheme and they can't see their kids now because of it.
03:26:36.000 Listen, this is the issue when you are a free speech absolutist and you believe everything is okay.
03:26:43.000 The problem is, bro, the powers that be...
03:26:46.000 Don't want that shit out there.
03:26:48.000 And as a result, you become a target and you become a isolation of pure punishment as an example of heretics and people that don't follow the agenda.
03:26:57.000 What Tate did, I believe, was great for men.
03:27:01.000 The influence he had was impactful, the most Googled man in the world, crazy exposure.
03:27:06.000 2022, yeah.
03:27:07.000 The problem is, when you become a figurehead of free speech and the truth, you become a target of the establishment.
03:27:13.000 And we all know what happens at that point.
03:27:15.000 Yeah, and take Hess' kids, guys.
03:27:16.000 For some of you guys that are wondering, yes, they have multiple kids, both of them.
03:27:19.000 They ruin your reputation, they kill your desire to make money because you can't make any money, or they kill you or put you in jail.
03:27:25.000 It's either one of these four scenarios.
03:27:26.000 And what do you do at that point?
03:27:28.000 Do you fight back the establishment?
03:27:29.000 How?
03:27:30.000 They're not even on camera.
03:27:31.000 They're behind the scenes.
03:27:32.000 They're in some mansion or castle in Sweden or something like that.
03:27:36.000 Who knows?
03:27:37.000 But they're not even seen on camera.
03:27:39.000 How do you fight back?
03:27:40.000 It's government.
03:27:41.000 Can you?
03:27:42.000 Yeah.
03:27:43.000 There are ways to do so, but it takes your whole life.
03:27:48.000 Essentially, when you're in a position like Tate, right, you're a martyr at that point.
03:27:52.000 Yeah.
03:27:53.000 He's not, and that's how, unfortunately, I think his story ends, is he's going to be fighting for this for the rest of his life long after people have forgotten what he's even fighting with him about.
03:28:06.000 You know what I mean?
03:28:07.000 And I think he even knows that.
03:28:10.000 He knows that.
03:28:10.000 I think he even knows that.
03:28:12.000 Yeah.
03:28:12.000 Yeah, I mean, he even said it when we went and did the pod with him.
03:28:14.000 He says, I'm going to jail.
03:28:16.000 Like, send me to jail.
03:28:17.000 But he's very clear.
03:28:18.000 He said, don't be a martyr.
03:28:19.000 Remember he said that, right?
03:28:20.000 Don't be a martyr.
03:28:21.000 I remember he said that to Sneeko.
03:28:23.000 Yeah.
03:28:23.000 Yeah, don't be a martyr, but I think...
03:28:25.000 I think he's going to end up...
03:28:27.000 He said it's a Sneeko, because they were already starting this bullshit on him before.
03:28:31.000 And I get the complaint, fresher coward.
03:28:34.000 Listen, motherfuckers.
03:28:35.000 You have to understand, right, bro?
03:28:36.000 This life that we live right now, bro, is built off of...
03:28:41.000 If you move dumb, you're gonna fucking die and end up in a fucking box.
03:28:45.000 Listen, motherfucker.
03:28:46.000 I got shit going on by the season.
03:28:47.000 I got family to take care of.
03:28:49.000 I'm moving smart because I know what's happening in the real world and what the Bible says.
03:28:52.000 Now, granted though, I can be a free speech absolutist as well or martyr myself.
03:28:57.000 But nah, he can do that shit.
03:28:58.000 Go ahead, Myron.
03:28:59.000 Give me the martyr, bro.
03:29:00.000 I will.
03:29:00.000 It's okay.
03:29:01.000 Let's go to the tweet real quick.
03:29:03.000 It goes, and this is from our boy Jewel Sullivan, the Sartorio shooter.
03:29:06.000 A new level of ridiculous from Tate prosecutor.
03:29:09.000 Buying mate's cars equals hiding money from trafficking in 23 and 24 while it's under judicial control.
03:29:14.000 As you guys know, well, some of you guys don't know this.
03:29:16.000 So what ended up happening is the Tate brothers bought their fitness guy...
03:29:23.000 Tristan's training also with his shoulder.
03:29:25.000 Yeah.
03:29:26.000 And they bought one of the other guys.
03:29:27.000 They bought him cars as gifts.
03:29:29.000 And they're trying to say that they were hiding money from trafficking.
03:29:32.000 This was money laundering.
03:29:33.000 While they were having the house arrest in 2023, as you guys know.
03:29:38.000 So let me get it straight.
03:29:38.000 What the fuck?
03:29:38.000 I bought my friend a car.
03:29:40.000 It's money laundering, bro.
03:29:41.000 And now I'm...
03:29:43.000 Hiding money.
03:29:43.000 Hiding money from the government.
03:30:01.000 The two defenders purchased and registered four luxury cars in the names of close people.
03:30:05.000 At the same time, in an attempt to prevent the discovery of the truth, they took acts of clearly intimidating nature and acts of corruption on some injured persons and witnesses in order to induce them not to give statements or give false statements in this file.
03:30:16.000 Well, first of all, I don't understand what those have to do with each other exactly.
03:30:21.000 But also, on the first point, how would that be hiding...
03:30:27.000 How would that be hiding the money?
03:30:30.000 I couldn't think of a better way to not be hiding money than to be like, oh hey, look at this new Lamborghini!
03:30:41.000 That's like driving your money around for everybody to see!
03:30:45.000 People that do bad stuff, Myron, they lay low, they don't post anything, they keep it private, if at all.
03:30:52.000 They're posting online.
03:30:53.000 I think Dicot is just running out of steam.
03:30:55.000 And they're like, we need to put another case on these guys because I think the other one was weak.
03:30:59.000 And they were like, yeah, we need to do something.
03:31:01.000 Because I don't think people understand this, right?
03:31:03.000 Like when the States got arrested in the end of 2022, it was, if I'm not mistaken, in December, I don't think Dicot and the Romanian government knew that it was going to get that much media press.
03:31:13.000 And when they realized, holy shit, This is worldwide news and they're covering it.
03:31:18.000 Like, yo, there's like Twitter accounts and YouTube accounts literally dedicated to just covering Tate coverage, right?
03:31:24.000 These dudes made a whole platform off of talking about Tate's arrest, right?
03:31:28.000 When they did this, I don't think they knew that it was going to reach this worldwide level of reach.
03:31:34.000 Now, guess what?
03:31:35.000 Now they have to see it through.
03:31:37.000 Just so you guys know, Romania is an extremely corrupt country.
03:31:40.000 This is a place that's very known for police ripping you off, taking the money, hey, you bribe, whatever the fuck it may be.
03:31:46.000 They thought maybe we could get a quick payday, take some watches, take some cash, et cetera, because they seize all this stuff and be able to keep it moving.
03:31:52.000 No, they can't.
03:31:52.000 Now they actually have to bring this to fruition and put these guys in jail to some degree with evidence.
03:31:56.000 And they haven't been able to do that.
03:31:57.000 So they're like, you know what?
03:31:58.000 We're going to go ahead and make another case, bite ourselves some more times because the Romanian criminal justice system is.
03:32:04.000 They arrest you and then they investigate.
03:32:06.000 They give you preventative detention.
03:32:08.000 And that's what they do.
03:32:08.000 So they do the case absolutely.
03:32:24.000 If any of you were in Andrew's position, what would you do?
03:32:28.000 Me?
03:32:29.000 What would you do?
03:32:30.000 You know, this is something I haven't really been keeping up with at all.
03:32:34.000 I don't really know about the case.
03:32:36.000 I don't know what's going on.
03:32:37.000 I haven't really looked into it.
03:32:39.000 But it just seems like he's going to jail and there's nothing to do about it, right?
03:32:43.000 Or am I missing...
03:32:44.000 That's what it seems like hearing you guys talk about it.
03:32:47.000 Like, he's just going to prison.
03:32:48.000 There's nothing to be done.
03:32:50.000 I think at this point, he's been a target of a lot of people's envy and, I want to say...
03:32:57.000 No, I mean, I know who he is, but is this case going to actually put him away?
03:33:00.000 We don't know.
03:33:00.000 We don't know.
03:33:01.000 We don't know.
03:33:01.000 I think that the...
03:33:03.000 It seems like he's in a totally powerless position.
03:33:07.000 He is.
03:33:07.000 What can he do?
03:33:08.000 Well, he can fight, and that's what he's doing.
03:33:11.000 In the courts, right?
03:33:13.000 Yeah, so I mean, what would you do in his position?
03:33:16.000 The only thing you can do is fight.
03:33:18.000 The only thing you can do is fight or cut a deal, but they probably see so much of this guy's assets.
03:33:24.000 I don't think he has the sort of net worth he used to have fighting all this.
03:33:28.000 I don't even know if you could bribe somebody.
03:33:30.000 What would you bribe them with?
03:33:32.000 Well, at this point, Romania is...
03:33:35.000 Because this country wasn't on the map before this shit.
03:33:38.000 I don't even think it's Romania, bro.
03:33:39.000 I think it's other people involved.
03:33:41.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:33:41.000 Not just Romania.
03:33:42.000 I love Romania.
03:33:44.000 United Kingdom and the United States definitely have a play in this.
03:33:47.000 You can't bribe them.
03:33:48.000 It's the UK that has the biggest hard-on for them, by far.
03:33:50.000 The UK, I think, was the main country responsible for the censorship, for the complaining, and trying to get them.
03:33:57.000 Because he was influencing the British kids.
03:33:59.000 And again, believe all women, oh, he must be this because they said so.
03:34:05.000 So you got the population believing these, um, you know, entitlements and all this stuff, and as well, the people themselves.
03:34:11.000 It's almost like if, like, you can't win in this scenario.
03:34:15.000 How do you win?
03:34:17.000 Well, it's an information war, is what it ends up turning out to be.
03:34:20.000 People have, like, looked at the cases and they're like, this is kind of fucking weird.
03:34:23.000 You know?
03:34:24.000 Has he retained his, like, popularity and, um, and he got banned off TikTok.
03:34:28.000 That probably really ended his step.
03:34:30.000 No, every year they ban him everywhere.
03:34:31.000 He's hurt worse than the year before, of course.
03:34:33.000 Yeah.
03:34:34.000 Yeah, they banned him everywhere.
03:34:35.000 He's mainly on X now, right?
03:34:37.000 X and Rumble.
03:34:38.000 X and Rumble.
03:34:39.000 Isn't it crazy?
03:34:40.000 Tate News, this like, Tate media outlet on X, turned against him, bro.
03:34:45.000 You saw that shit?
03:34:46.000 What?
03:34:46.000 They're posting bad about him the moment this next indictment came up, or next case came up.
03:34:52.000 Well, yeah, these people acting as self-interest, man.
03:34:54.000 It's anything for clicks, man.
03:34:55.000 It's weird.
03:34:56.000 He posted, I'm not a Tate Stan, I just posted about Tate News.
03:34:58.000 That's a cat, bro.
03:34:59.000 You posted positive Tate stuff in the past.
03:35:01.000 That's what I'm trying to say.
03:35:01.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:35:02.000 I'm like, bro, you just switched on a nigga like that.
03:35:04.000 Like, bro, what the fuck?
03:35:05.000 That's social media for you.
03:35:06.000 That's literally social media for you.
03:35:08.000 But yeah, man, um...
03:35:09.000 So yeah, it's just fine.
03:35:10.000 Like, they're grasping at straws.
03:35:12.000 Like, the fact that they're saying that, oh yeah, they bought their friend's cars, and this is money laundering.
03:35:16.000 Hide the proceeds.
03:35:17.000 It's like, bro, okay, man.
03:35:19.000 Alright.
03:35:20.000 What else we got here?
03:35:21.000 Chats?
03:35:22.000 And then we'll close out.
03:35:24.000 And then tune in tomorrow, guys.
03:35:26.000 We're going to have the lovely ladies here with Haas and with Andrew.
03:35:31.000 And Dan Bilzerian.
03:35:32.000 And Dan Bilzerian interview will come out during the day.
03:35:34.000 Well, Haas may not be here tomorrow, right?
03:35:35.000 If it's not the debate, I could probably show up.
03:35:39.000 It's with the girls.
03:35:41.000 Yeah, I don't have to be sharp.
03:35:42.000 Yeah, it's whatever you want.
03:35:43.000 You don't have to shit on them if you don't want to.
03:35:45.000 I mean, I don't have to be cognitively sharp.
03:35:49.000 I'll bring you some booties, bro.
03:35:50.000 Yeah.
03:35:51.000 Thursday will be the debate.
03:35:52.000 Did you guys see the chart that says majority of women voters care more about abortion policies and rights rather than the actual fucking economy and other important aspects of the bill tonight?
03:36:00.000 Bro, I literally said this.
03:36:02.000 Most of them are single-issue voters where abortion is the top of the priority and they will go ahead and put someone in office that will destroy the economy for reproductive rights.
03:36:13.000 That's how important it is.
03:36:13.000 I remember there was a YouTuber or TikToker and one of them asked some girls, Who would you vote for?
03:36:18.000 And the response was insane, bro.
03:36:20.000 And he mentioned, as well, one question about the economy and then one question about abortion.
03:36:25.000 And if you ask them, like, they'll say, oh, I'm not voting Trump.
03:36:28.000 And you'll ask them, well, what do you dislike about Trump?
03:36:29.000 They can't articulate to you why.
03:36:31.000 No, no, no.
03:36:31.000 It's because he's a bad person.
03:36:32.000 Yeah.
03:36:33.000 That's the main thing.
03:36:33.000 He's a bad person.
03:36:34.000 He needs to be in jail.
03:36:35.000 Orange man bad.
03:36:36.000 I'm like pro-like.
03:36:38.000 The Chief of Amar, did you hear about Foo Fighters endorsing Kamala Harris, the Trump campaign licensed My Hero when Trump brought out RFK? Yeah, I did hear about that.
03:36:43.000 Dave Grawl claims they didn't get permission, but the facts say...
03:36:46.000 What?
03:36:46.000 Go back, go back.
03:36:47.000 The facts say what?
03:36:47.000 The facts say otherwise.
03:36:49.000 Otherwise, L Foo Fighters.
03:36:50.000 Yeah, fuck the Foo Fighters for that, bro.
03:36:52.000 Bro, that's the problem with these musicians and celebrities, bro.
03:36:55.000 I've lost so much respect for a lot of these guys because they're all fucking left-wing pussies, man.
03:37:00.000 They're all social justice warriors.
03:37:02.000 This is why you can't trust a lot of these social media influencers, man.
03:37:04.000 You know what I thought about the music industry?
03:37:08.000 If you want to go ahead and speak against the establishment or what's going on in the background, you're done for.
03:37:12.000 That's why they're not political.
03:37:13.000 And if they are, it's always to the left.
03:37:15.000 Always, bro.
03:37:16.000 Almost always.
03:37:17.000 The chief here, or it'll be people that aren't relevant anymore.
03:37:20.000 Kid Rock performed at the RNC. Bro, who listens to Kid Rock, bro?
03:37:24.000 I've never met anyone that says they're a Kid Rock fan.
03:37:25.000 Sorry, bro.
03:37:26.000 And then Hulk Hogan was there.
03:37:29.000 Come on, man.
03:37:29.000 Hulk Hogan.
03:37:30.000 Come on.
03:37:30.000 I love wrestling, but it's like, and he's a legend, but like, bro, you know, I'm a real American, like, is it the 1980s?
03:37:35.000 Nah.
03:37:36.000 Come on, man.
03:37:37.000 It's sad, bro.
03:37:38.000 Yeah.
03:37:38.000 United States government mistakenly just transferred 239 million to the Taliban?
03:37:42.000 Wait, what?
03:37:42.000 Mistakenly.
03:37:43.000 Okay.
03:37:44.000 It's a shame what Romania is doing to the states.
03:37:46.000 All the evidence vindicates them.
03:37:47.000 With that being said, they have to fight it out until Trump becomes president and have them cut a deal with the EU. We'll see.
03:37:52.000 Flying Raptor.
03:37:53.000 That's it?
03:37:54.000 Cool.
03:37:55.000 Guys, where can they find you guys?
03:37:59.000 Infrahaz on X. Yeah.
03:38:01.000 That's it.
03:38:02.000 And you can find me on The Crucible and thecrucible.video.
03:38:05.000 You can become a member over there for the back catalog.
03:38:08.000 All the great debates and all the great shows that we do on The Crucible.
03:38:12.000 And we'd love to have you over there as a member.
03:38:14.000 We have two more here.
03:38:14.000 Last two here.
03:38:15.000 Daniel.
03:38:16.000 Y'all think there will be a terrorist attack before the election?
03:38:18.000 How do y'all think they'll cheat?
03:38:19.000 Cyber attack?
03:38:20.000 I don't think there'll be a terrorist attack.
03:38:21.000 I don't know, bro.
03:38:22.000 I don't know.
03:38:23.000 I don't know.
03:38:23.000 And then, Haz, please go on After Hours.
03:38:26.000 We'll watch it for years.
03:38:27.000 It would be hilarious to see you in there.
03:38:28.000 Zerka Royals made you go on this.
03:38:30.000 Do a stream with the triad, Infrared, Jackson, and Zerka, okay?
03:38:34.000 Y'all think there will be...
03:38:36.000 No, we got that one before.
03:38:37.000 And then, word from sponsor?
03:38:38.000 No.
03:38:41.000 I think we're good.
03:38:43.000 Guys, we're going to close out.
03:38:45.000 Tomorrow night, we're going to have some other ladies on, probably around 10 p.m., I'm thinking.
03:38:49.000 9.30, 10 p.m., after hours.
03:38:51.000 And then we'll drop the Dan Bozain interview probably around 7.30, 8-ish.
03:38:55.000 It's pre-recorded, so we'll drop a few guys on YouTube.
03:38:57.000 A full version will be on Rumble.
03:38:59.000 And guys, join Cals Club, man.
03:39:00.000 CalsClub.tv, man.
03:39:01.000 And also, make sure to check out Andrew and Haas.
03:39:04.000 And we'll catch you guys in the next episode tomorrow.
03:39:05.000 Peace.
03:39:06.000 Peace.
03:39:08.000 So far away, I just ran, I ran all night and day.