00:21:48.000Because you seem to be more sober now than before, and you seem to be like fully sober, making content.
00:21:53.000And how does it feel to be, I guess, more sober?
00:21:56.000Yeah, so I've been sober for a little while ever since the incident where essentially what had happened, and this isn't really something I've actually broke the ice on it a little.
00:22:10.000That wasn't actually a typical drug overdose, as you could say.
00:22:18.000Well, technically, alcohol is a drug, but I was actually told to say that that was from a certain drug overdose.
00:22:30.000So this is not something I've talked about.
00:22:33.000And I'm going to get into why a little bit.
00:22:35.000So I was doing some work with a certain, you know, PR firm that basically works for like a lot of canceled interviews.
00:22:46.000So what I speculate is that they thought it would be a good idea to keep me in that category of being a canceled influencer by claiming that I had, you know, a drug, a substance over to OD.
00:23:01.000I keep saying, you know, drug and quote, because alcohol technically is.
00:23:16.000So, you know, that in combination with the fact that I, you know, typically don't drink.
00:23:22.000That's never something that has been a frequent use of mine.
00:23:27.000But I was having a little bit of alcohol that day, right?
00:23:30.000And, you know, I basically just passed out, as I'm sure every single college kid in this entire country has, right?
00:23:40.000And I was instructed to say, you know, that that was from a different substance that was more severe because it would go more viral for, you know, not only the club grand opening, which was the following day, was the cover that I was led to believe was going to make it a good idea to say that.
00:24:00.000But I am now realizing that that's to keep me in this canceled influencer category.
00:24:12.000You know, and the retainer I got from this PR firm, you know, what I was originally working with them for, after the incident had happened, you know, and we got our new deal, they increased it from, you know, eight to 40,000.
00:24:40.000So this was, you know, this was what happened.
00:24:44.000And, you know, it's unfortunate because, you know, a lot had happened.
00:24:47.000You take a look at, we won't get into exactly which deals, but you know about some of them that were taken off the table because of the, you know, because of how it was perceived, right?
00:25:00.000And that was, you know, a narrative that I was told to spread, right?
00:25:03.000Because by the person that I thought was, you know, going to be running good PR for me, that I figured would have the right direction for all the stuff I was doing.
00:25:13.000But it was really just to keep me boxed into this.
00:25:31.000And it's funny because all of like the PR stuff and that angle, I've typically found that just trusting my instincts has been what has given me the best results.
00:25:43.000So I don't know really why I decided to deviate from that.
00:25:47.000Um, yeah, but no, I was fully instructed to say that you know it's completely misrepresented because I'm 33 years old, right?
00:25:54.000Yeah, I cannot imagine being your age with this much clout, status, money, influence, bro.
00:26:00.000Listen, I'm from the islands, I don't know what I'll be doing, but you're handling it in a different way, you know.
00:26:05.000And I think for most people watching, they're like, Yo, this kid went from like nothing to going viral to money, so they're like, Why would he do this?
00:26:13.000But I get it because you're being told from different directions what to do sometimes, and you're like, You know what, trust this person, but is it best for me?
00:26:21.000No, I mean, and the reasoning made a lot of sense at the time because I was so preoccupied mentally with, you know, the club grand opening and all this.
00:26:30.000So, me being an opportunistic person, I hear this idea go off and I'm thinking, oh, wow, you know, that's great.
00:27:23.000It leaves you feeling bad the next day.
00:27:25.000Why is that, you think, for your generation?
00:27:28.000I mean, I would honestly disagree with you.
00:27:32.000I would say that most people are still pretty pro alcohol consumption, especially in universities and a lot of the Greek life culture.
00:27:43.000Where I would say you might be right is there's a lot more options available, like how we have the legalization of medical marijuana in the state of Florida specifically.
00:27:54.000Um, you know, wider on the broader spectrum, it's just legal in general in certain states, Colorado, yeah, uh, whatever.
00:28:01.000So, I think just more options for people leads to less choice for alcohol and more choice for those different substances.
00:28:10.000Okay, uh, question I wish it were that way because alcohol is quite toxic, uh, it's quite literally a poison, right?
00:28:17.000And, you know, do I have a drink or two every once in a while?
00:28:22.000I mean, not really these days, but when I was going through my teenage years and I'd go out, sure.
00:28:29.000But I was extremely conscious of the fact that every time I ingest this, this is a toxin, this is a harmful thing.
00:28:36.000And that kind of mental block very much limits the amount that you're consuming.
00:28:42.000Because I've been around you a couple of times, never seen you drink before.
00:28:46.000I took a shot before, just to be honest.
00:28:47.000It's Don Andre's, but hey, you know what?
00:28:51.000So let's say, right, if I want to know how to be a streamer, I'm a young kid, I'm watching you, watching other creators, I'm like, you know what?
00:28:59.000How would you recommend somebody start being a streamer nowadays, in your opinion?
00:29:05.000I would recommend that people kind of figure out exactly what niche that they want to stream in.
00:29:12.000If you want to be super captivating and have a lot of people watch you, you have to figure out exactly what you're going to do.
00:29:19.000You can't just really copy the framework of what works for other people.
00:29:25.000You know, besides from a structured standpoint, like, okay, you know, once I hit this point, I need to, you know, get a cameraman and this technology.
00:29:33.000Like, yeah, you could copy those details.
00:29:35.000But in terms of the content creation, the stuff that works for me is not going to work for just someone who's inspired by me and wants to do content.
00:29:45.000So, yeah, find what you're really passionate about, see if other people are as well, and kind of take it from there, right?
00:29:55.000The problem is, and Sort of what makes my situation unique to say that is no one really knew what looks maxing was until I started making content about it.
00:30:08.000So I was kind of like paving a whole new path with creating that niche.
00:31:45.000You know, after any incident or just me making a decision to move in a different direction, that's always been like sort of the ethos of what I'm doing.
00:33:01.000So that's why I think that streaming is one of the biggest blessings for me instead of doing YouTube.
00:33:07.000Because I guarantee if I were to be doing YouTube where it's edited and clipped up in a very specific way, it gives you control over the creative process.
00:34:30.000And eventually, at first, it was quite hard for me, kind of coming to this realization that, you know, I'm not a neurotypical person.
00:34:39.000Being atypical sucks, but I'm realizing now that, you know, it's okay and I'm adapting to it a little.
00:34:47.000And being this way is kind of why I'm in the position I am.0.96
00:34:52.000If you were more normal, I don't think people would be interested as well because you're kind of like a person that's just living life in their own way on camera.
00:35:02.000And as someone that watches you, of course, and I'm sure the fans do as well, it's kind of like, okay, what's going to happen next?
00:35:43.000And a lot of people thought that was some scripted thing because she did an OnlyFans.0.98
00:35:49.000And, you know, quite honestly, could she have just taken the opportunity because she saw a camera?
00:35:55.000And we knew who we were to come with us, of course, yeah, like probably, but is that scripted on our end?
00:36:01.000And it's like that's still going with exactly everything I'm talking about, right?
00:36:06.000When you talk about SMB maxing, if you're getting girls because of this newfound status and you know that you have an audience and you have a viewership and you're leveraging that to get sex, you know, these are all the still the same maxes I've been mentioning, right?0.99
00:36:24.000So, like that kind of shit, yeah, completely random.0.96
00:36:30.000Most days, I kind of just like being a little bit impulsive with it because I'll do a lot of like, you know, Few day periods where I'll say, Okay, on Monday, I'm going to do this.0.99
00:36:43.000And then by Wednesday, I'm sitting there like, Man, I feel like I'm on a fucking schedule right now of content and it's taking away my creative process, which I really can't stand.0.91
00:36:55.000So I need to take a step back or I need to just go do something that pops into my head that maybe it doesn't make any sense and crash out a little bit.
00:37:07.000Like, I need ultimate freedom over.0.98
00:37:10.000What I'm doing, and there will be certain times where everyone's advocating for me to do like this collaboration or do this stupid activity.0.95
00:37:20.000And if I'm like, you know, at my wits' end with things and I think something's retarded, like I'd rather.0.99
00:38:09.000So it's like, I don't want to be doing the activities that I enjoy off camera because then.
00:38:16.000I'm not capturing a moment that is extremely, you know, or extremely good content, right?
00:38:23.000So I think when you have a genuine enjoyment for the things that you're doing and people could tell, like, you're actually having a good time and happy to be there, it does add to the content.
00:38:34.000And, like, no one's that good of an actor, right?
00:38:36.000If you genuinely hate everything you're doing on stream and it's all performative, they can tell.
00:39:52.000We actually did a stream not too long ago.
00:39:55.000I think it was last Thursday or Thursday before that, where I had Brock, my camera guy, on a 200 millimeter zoom lens sitting in the Sprinter.
00:41:30.000Yesterday, of you at a party, and I know whose party you're at, Ryan Paul's party.0.86
00:41:34.000Shout out to him, crazy guy, but funny.
00:41:37.000And this girl, Jenny, was at the party with you.0.74
00:41:40.000And your post was hilarious, by the way.
00:41:42.000But her response to me was like, Listen, I feel like the camera was not on her, it'll be way different.
00:41:49.000We'll play it here, but this was hilarious, man.
00:41:52.000And I like, like I said to you, like before, about the whole thing of her acting different for the camera, and if the camera wasn't there, she was going.0.90
00:42:02.000It's like, if the camera wasn't there, I never would have fucking talked to her in the first place.0.89
00:42:14.000Dude, it's like, you know, what I've smashed at, it's like, yeah, maybe if she's in my bed already conveniently, but not really much effort I would put in besides that.
00:42:25.000So, no, like, she's acting a certain way for the camera.
00:44:31.000But my whole theory about it was more so just the compounding effect.
00:44:38.000So that if you have pretty girls around you constantly, it's sort of like Dan Blazarian used to talk about it just compounds to such a high degree because other girls are taking a look at this and they're seeing these hot chicks with me and they're saying, well, what exactly.0.98
00:44:56.000About this guy has these girls, you know, so captivated to the point where they want to sleep on his fucking couch, right?0.84
00:45:05.000So that was sort of the theory behind everything.0.95
00:45:09.000But that whole situation becomes a lot harder to deal with than, you know, getting to the actual results of things.0.53
00:45:19.000So now I'm just like, okay, let's just, you know, kick it with one girl and make things easier on ourselves.
00:45:26.000It's funny because in the club, same thing.
00:46:46.000Because it's also about, you know, it's just like from a safety standpoint, a lot of these girls don't want to go home with fucking random dudes.0.98
00:47:50.000And you show people the world as well.
00:47:52.000My looks have gotten me fame, money, and status.1.00
00:47:56.000But my question is my ugly ass is ugly, bro.0.99
00:48:00.000I ain't getting no looks to look much better, but my money and status helps me get what I need regardless.0.99
00:48:08.000So I would argue that in the long term of things, long term looks are important for sure.
00:48:14.000But at the end of the day, money does trump everything longevity wise.
00:48:20.000Here was my point, and this is always what I'll say as a rebuttal to that is what would be easier for the average person to achieve the amount of wealth that you have, or simply getting super lean,
00:48:34.000getting in shape in the gym, you know, maybe improving their coloring, very basic looks maxes, but the ones that are going to drive their percentile up the highest is it easier to do that, or is it easier to become a multimillionaire, you know, who?
00:48:54.000So that's kind of how I would always respond.
00:48:58.000And, you know, it's not to say that money and status aren't important, but I think us as influencers kind of don't really understand, you know, the nuance that our fame and our status are so, so, you know, like top percentile and out of the ordinary that we might just perceive it a little different.
00:49:27.000Let's say you're right, 100% podcasting, influencing, different level.
00:49:33.000But on a scale of one to 10, if I put looks before everything else, I still got to pay bills.
00:49:40.000My girl may like me for my physique, my looks.
00:49:45.000But when there's a vacation to Mykonos, when there's an actual benefit for me to go to, like, I don't know, a concert that I can't afford, it's going to deter her love.
00:49:55.000In some instances, and over time, but the argument's not looks versus money because I'm a someone who is a huge advocate for increasing your status in money, right?
00:50:05.000It's like if I didn't believe in money maxing, it's like I wouldn't be doing things like getting involved with whatever business ventures like Baccarat or you know, trying to get sponsorships.0.99
00:50:20.000I would just, I wouldn't give a shit, right?0.87
00:50:22.000Looks maxing would be the only thing that I do, but no, I'm talking about becoming the full package, right?0.99
00:50:33.000I'm just saying that looks is simply going to be the easiest thing to really make a marginal improvement to your quality of life.
00:50:43.000Because even making a million dollars a year, which is extremely, extremely high percentile, I've even seen videos and I'm starting to see more and more videos on my Twitter feed, whether they're rage bait or not.
00:50:57.000But I'm speculating that this is kind of the mentality with maybe the current economy or.
00:52:39.000Okay, well, I mean, not necessarily because that just comes down to now, you know, what percentile looks are we talking about or what percentile money?
00:52:50.000Because it's like if we're talking about.
00:52:53.000Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk levels of wealth versus, like, you know, a slightly above average looking person, then, you know, that blows it out of the water.
00:53:03.000But if we're talking about a guy who might have a job and he's making in the low six figures versus, but he's not good looking versus an extremely good looking person who's like, you know, an 8.5 out of 10, whatever, but they're almost completely broke just living in their parents' house.
00:53:26.000It really does depend on like the level.
00:53:29.000But look at the disparity there, right?
00:53:32.000Between what we're talking about, we're talking about a small disparity in looks, only from, you know, really like a 6.5 to an 8.5 that moves the needle to a significant degree versus a hundred thousand compared to, you know, hundreds of hundreds of millions of dollars in the examples given, right?
00:53:52.000So that's why I'm saying it's a lot easier to close that gap with looks.
00:53:56.000To make him a marginal improvement than it is with wealth.
00:54:41.000People want to make up all these conspiracy theories, like about Peter Thiel and all this stuff.
00:54:47.000It's like, you know, I wish I was getting millions of dollars into my pocket and all this crazy shit, but it's like, no, it's just a huge clipping budget because they benefit themselves, right?
00:55:01.000My clips going viral, people seeing that kick tag and then coming and watching people gambling on stake.0.83
00:55:08.000So it's like it's just a good ecosystem that kick has built up.
00:55:13.000It's really not that complicated, right?
00:55:16.000I had a 20 minute call with two billionaires arguing if you're funded by Peter Thiel.
00:55:19.000I was like, bro, there's no way, there's no way.
00:55:22.000And I'm like, I'm like, bro, like I know the guy, like I don't get it, but I see that, like, you know, people will say, I'm funded by like you know, Peter Thiel, I'm funded by.
00:56:07.000And you created an environment where creators can come, get clips, party, get lit, and leave with a good impression of who Clav is and Club is.
00:56:27.000Nightlife has taken a huge change, a huge dump over the past decade.
00:56:33.000So I kind of just came in to the picture with High, and we realized that there's a whole lot of marketing that these clubs are missing out on by not letting streamers in.
00:56:47.000And the reasoning really doesn't make any sense.
00:56:49.000They'll say, oh, well, They'll catch things on camera that maybe a rich client might be cheating on his wife, something like that.0.99
00:57:00.000It's like everyone's got a fucking iPhone.0.98
00:57:02.000This isn't the good old days, as I'm sure a bunch of older generation people would like to say, where you could do whatever the fuck you want without any consequences of it being on a video.0.99
00:57:13.000But the same problems arise from regular people filming Snapchat stories as they would from a live stream.
00:57:20.000But the live streams are distributed a lot better, a lot more people are watching.
00:57:25.000And it really just goes to help the club.
00:57:27.000So if I've got all these people in my club and Kick is paying for their individual clipping budget, maybe in some cases they're paying for their own, they're posting it on their own pages.0.90
00:58:27.000You know, one thing that happened and it had to close and the whole thing got restructured.
00:58:32.000Yeah, so the club has been a skeleton for a long time, right?
00:58:36.000It's just been basically doing enough money to keep the doors open, which isn't saying much because it's one of the most favorable properties that you can get.
00:58:50.000And then we came in, and on the first 30 days of us taking over operations and getting involved, Versus the 30 days prior to me coming in, we had a 350 increase in gross revenue.
01:01:19.000Um, well, I mean, I right now I'm kind of just more friends with one of them, and it's like what kind of pilled me is like whether a girl's doing OnlyFans or whether she's not, it's like they're both doing the same fucking thing, really.0.84
01:01:38.000Like, yo, he's smart, guys, he's very smart, right?
01:01:41.000It's like, yeah, the both of them, it's still promiscuous, um, you just don't know about it, right?0.99
01:01:48.000So, uh, that's kind of What I would tell people is like, you know, you think your girl's like this amazing, like a wonderful virgin who's never done anything wrong because she doesn't do this shit.0.99
01:02:04.000Being in Miami is the biggest red pill possible.
01:02:06.000Miami will show you a hyper inflated society that's based off of looks, money, and status in a different way possible because LA is different, of course, but this is hyper active.
01:02:19.000And girls will tell you, yeah, I stay home, I don't party, I'm a good girl.
01:02:24.000But then they're at Baccarat at 2 a.m., twerking on stream.
01:02:47.000So the ones that are not doing OnlyFans, something's going to be worse than the ones.0.99
01:02:51.000Because there's no ego left, really, once they're doing this shit.0.99
01:02:56.000And a lot of the times, Girls who are not doing that kind of shit don't want to be on streams, you know, because they'll work a normal job and they're not going to want to come and clip farm and say crazy shit if they're working at an office somewhere or someone's receptionist.1.00
01:05:46.000You're sober, you're working on better things, locking in on Money Max.
01:05:50.000And what else are you doing to improve, I guess, or change your current structure?
01:05:58.000I would say that a lot more deals have been coming through and put on the table simply because of the success that people have seen with Baccarat.
01:06:10.000They're realizing that the amount of marketing I could provide and just how quickly I can turn around even a failing.
01:06:20.000You know, company, not that I'm saying Bakra was one, but just the market is on point.
01:06:29.000It's like with our short form redistribution and, you know, the content mine that I have, like a lot more companies have been wanting that as a partnership, right?
01:06:43.000So just kind of taking a look through a lot of different options and we'll see.
01:06:48.000But a lot of people have been saying that, you know, it's sort of.
01:06:55.000So eventually, you know, eventually we'll have a lot of big things set up here.
01:06:59.000Well, to your point, Hollywood is dying.
01:07:01.000Creators are becoming the new marketing for companies.
01:07:05.000And if you look at it from a standpoint of better marketing and better value, if I'm a creator that has multiple clips, a big platform, I can push something live that you can't push on a billboard.
01:07:16.000And the point is, the money's shifting.
01:07:18.000Creators now, especially where we're at, us, you know, yourself, we have the benefit of having streaming.
01:07:25.000As our actual platform, which means we can market to things and a live audience.
01:08:11.000Yeah, so I usually don't respond to these kind of situations on Twitter ever because I think that a lot of the times people will either go the route of like coping or self deprecating.
01:08:26.000And if you try to do that and like get in on the joke, like as a creator and be like, oh, you know, I don't take myself too seriously, it's like you'll ruin it.
01:08:35.000So, or if you just like try to cope, people will hate you.