Fresh & Fit - June 30, 2023


THIS Is How NATO's War On Russia Has FAILED w- Scott Ritter


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Length

4 hours and 34 minutes

Words per Minute

172.44897

Word Count

47,320

Sentence Count

4,965

Misogynist Sentences

37

Hate Speech Sentences

371


Summary

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00:00:00.000 We are live.
00:00:01.000 What's up guys?
00:00:01.000 Welcome to the Freshman Podcast.
00:00:02.000 We've got a special episode for you guys today.
00:00:04.000 We're here with Scott Ritter.
00:00:05.000 We've got a lot to talk about with geopolitics, the Russian-Ukraine war.
00:00:08.000 Let's get into it.
00:00:09.000 Let's go!
00:00:59.000 Hey, what's up guys?
00:01:00.000 Welcome back to the Fresh Fit Podcast, man.
00:01:02.000 We are here with Scott Ritter.
00:01:03.000 I'm really excited for this conversation, man.
00:01:04.000 It's going to be a high IQ conversation.
00:01:05.000 We're going to talk about geopolitics, the Russian Ukraine war, foreign policy.
00:01:09.000 All that stuff is going to be talked about today.
00:01:10.000 But real quick, before we get into it, rumble.com slash freshfit.
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00:02:31.000 Moe's uploading on their, what, pretty much daily?
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00:02:35.000 All right, sweet.
00:02:36.000 The latest episode's already there.
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00:02:38.000 He said the latest episode's there.
00:02:40.000 And then, Fresh, you want to talk about your vlog real quick?
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00:02:46.000 Our Columbia trip will be recorded on the vlog channel as well.
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00:02:58.000 My bad.
00:03:00.000 There you go.
00:03:03.000 Which is like, yo, well, don't friends don't stutter anymore, Chris.
00:03:06.000 That's it.
00:03:07.000 I had to mess up.
00:03:07.000 There you go.
00:03:08.000 That was only one day, nigga.
00:03:09.000 Okay.
00:03:11.000 Scott's like, what the fuck did I get myself into?
00:03:12.000 What's going on?
00:03:13.000 What's going on?
00:03:14.000 He's like, damn it.
00:03:15.000 Hey, guys, go check out my YouTube channel.
00:03:17.000 I did the YWMLE review earlier this morning, but I had to get some sleep for this show, obviously.
00:03:23.000 I didn't sleep.
00:03:24.000 I did, like, all the streams, didn't, you know, went to the gym, then did another stream.
00:03:28.000 So whatever.
00:03:28.000 Go check it out.
00:03:29.000 And then also...
00:03:30.000 What I'll probably do for you guys, shout out to my guy Ryan Dawson.
00:03:33.000 We're going to cover 9-11 with him tomorrow.
00:03:34.000 I'll probably go ahead and drop NUMEC for you guys on FedReacts.
00:03:37.000 It got approved!
00:03:38.000 I'm like shocked.
00:03:39.000 So yeah, I'll put that on there for y'all.
00:03:41.000 It's going to talk about how a certain state that won't be named because we're on YouTube.
00:03:46.000 Stole the nuclear bomb from the United States.
00:03:48.000 We're talking about that and was involved in John F. Kennedy's death, which Scott definitely knows about.
00:03:52.000 What are the crazy accusations?
00:03:53.000 No, I'm just saying.
00:03:55.000 I know you ain't talking about it, bro.
00:03:56.000 You mentioned that yesterday on the show.
00:03:58.000 I just sent the state.
00:04:00.000 You said, oh, steal our technology.
00:04:02.000 I did it to the girl.
00:04:04.000 Oh, yeah.
00:04:05.000 Stupid.
00:04:05.000 From that homeland.
00:04:06.000 Well, to be fair, though, the contact wasn't even there, so I feel like it wasn't important.
00:04:11.000 You were like, bro, they steal our technology, blah, blah, blah, and you went in, whatever.
00:04:15.000 Fuck all that.
00:04:16.000 We got special guests now.
00:04:17.000 Scott.
00:04:20.000 We're happy to have you, Scott.
00:04:21.000 I know who you are, but the audience might not know who you are.
00:04:23.000 Can you please introduce yourself to the people, your background, what you used to do?
00:04:28.000 Well, I call myself a child of the Cold War.
00:04:30.000 My parents were career Air Force officers.
00:04:33.000 My mom was a nurse.
00:04:34.000 My dad was in aircraft maintenance.
00:04:36.000 I spent 26 years serving our country, much of it overseas.
00:04:42.000 I went to high school in four different places, or three, I'm sorry, three different places, Hawaii, Turkey, and Germany.
00:04:47.000 I graduated I'm from Kaiserslautern American High School in 1979, enlisted in the U.S. Army so I could go off and kill communists.
00:04:56.000 Went to college, majored in Russian history, got commissioned in the United States Marine Corps, became an intelligence officer.
00:05:02.000 And in 1988, I was assigned to what's called the On-Site Inspection Agency, a Department of Defense activity created to implement the Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty, which was signed in December of 1987 by Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev.
00:05:18.000 This eliminated intermediate and short-range nuclear missiles.
00:05:21.000 It's the first ever treaty to get rid of nuclear weapons.
00:05:24.000 And I was the first inspector on the ground in the Soviet Union to do it.
00:05:29.000 That's my claim to fame.
00:05:31.000 I did that for two years and then went back to the Marine Corps.
00:05:35.000 As a UN inspector for two years?
00:05:36.000 No, no.
00:05:36.000 This is American.
00:05:37.000 Okay, okay.
00:05:38.000 As a Marine Corps officer serving in the Department of Defense activity.
00:05:41.000 I went back to the Marine Corps and right in time for Saddam Hussein to invade Iraq.
00:05:47.000 And I ended up on General Norman Schwarzkopf's staff as an intelligence officer.
00:05:51.000 Because of my experience with missiles, I got involved in the counter-SCUD campaign.
00:05:57.000 I worked with Special Forces, American Delta Force, SEALs, British SAS, and others to try and interdict Iraqi SCUD missiles before they could be fired against Israel or the Or the Persian Gulf countries.
00:06:10.000 The war ended.
00:06:12.000 I had what they call a good war, meaning I didn't get killed and had a good reputation.
00:06:15.000 But my time in the Marine Corps was over.
00:06:18.000 I joined to kill communists.
00:06:20.000 When I said that the first time, I wasn't joking.
00:06:21.000 I joined because the evil empire was there and I wanted to close with and destroy the communist enemy through firepower maneuver.
00:06:32.000 Cold War ended, so Union collapsed.
00:06:34.000 It was over.
00:06:35.000 So I left the Marine Corps only to get the phone call in August from the United Nations saying, you know, that line from the Godfather, every time I want to leave, they just reach in and they drag me back.
00:06:48.000 And that's what happened.
00:06:49.000 They called up and they said, nah, not so fast.
00:06:52.000 We need you to come to the United Nations, set up an intelligence unit there to find where Iraq is hiding weapons and to get inspection teams on target.
00:07:02.000 And I did that job for seven years.
00:07:04.000 So you were involved in finding the weapons of mass destruction?
00:07:08.000 Well, except that in the beginning they were weapons of mass destruction.
00:07:13.000 I mean, what people don't realize is Iraq was overflowing with weapons of mass destruction.
00:07:18.000 And when the The original teams were composed of honest to goodness You know,
00:07:36.000 chemical weapons experts, biological weapons experts, nuclear missile guys.
00:07:41.000 I'm none of that.
00:07:42.000 I'm just a simple Marine.
00:07:43.000 But the Iraqis lied.
00:07:45.000 They declared less than half of their chemical weapons capability.
00:07:48.000 They declared less than half of their missiles.
00:07:50.000 They denied having a biological capability or a nuclear capability.
00:07:54.000 And so we were in a quandary of, what do you do?
00:07:57.000 So that's where I came in.
00:07:58.000 I created an intelligence unit whose job was to find the hidden stuff.
00:08:03.000 I worked with all the intelligence agencies in the world, the CIA, British MI6, Israeli Mossad, you name it, I worked with them.
00:08:11.000 And then I helped gather that intelligence and turn it into What we call, you know, it's actionable intelligence, where on the ground we're going to go.
00:08:19.000 And then I would lead the inspection teams into Iraq to find this stuff.
00:08:23.000 And that's how we got rid of them.
00:08:25.000 It wasn't that the Iraqis never had them.
00:08:27.000 It's that people like me and the inspectors I work with did a damn good job in hunting them down and disposing of them.
00:08:34.000 So Iraq actually did have weapons then?
00:08:36.000 Absolutely.
00:08:37.000 Contrary to popular belief.
00:08:38.000 Because they always say, you know, we invaded for no reason.
00:08:41.000 They didn't have any weapons of mass destruction.
00:08:43.000 Well, they didn't have them when we invaded.
00:08:44.000 That's what I'm trying to say, is that we, the inspectors, we got rid of them.
00:08:49.000 We compelled the Iraqis to destroy them.
00:08:51.000 We investigated.
00:08:52.000 Prior to us coming in there.
00:08:53.000 The problem was, and this is the kicker, I thought that my job was to get rid of weapons of mass destruction.
00:09:00.000 Because that's what the United Nations resolution said our job was to do.
00:09:03.000 Yeah.
00:09:04.000 I didn't realize that my government wanted something different.
00:09:07.000 They wanted Saddam Hussein gone and that they were using the inspectors not to get rid of the weapons, but to put pressure on Saddam to collect intelligence on Saddam so that Saddam could be assassinated or driven out of power.
00:09:20.000 And so while I was a weapons inspector, I was actually fighting a war on two fronts.
00:09:24.000 I would lead inspection teams into Iraq and find evidence that they are being disarmed.
00:09:29.000 Then I would come back to the United States and have to go to war against the CIA, who were saying, no, we don't want this.
00:09:35.000 Give you an example.
00:09:36.000 You were literally caught right in the middle.
00:09:38.000 Right in the middle.
00:09:38.000 Ping pong, ping pong, ping pong.
00:09:40.000 So to give you an example, I did a series of inspections to uncover Iraq's ballistic missiles.
00:09:47.000 And I succeeded.
00:09:48.000 We...
00:09:49.000 We found them.
00:09:50.000 The Iraqis had to give them up.
00:09:51.000 We disposed of them.
00:09:52.000 And I went back and I briefed the director of the CIA. I said, they're all gone.
00:09:56.000 And he said, well, no, we have some intelligence that they're hiding some underground.
00:10:00.000 I was like, well, that's funny because we've accounted for them all.
00:10:02.000 He said, no, they're underground.
00:10:04.000 So I had to do another inspection.
00:10:06.000 This one I called his bluff.
00:10:07.000 I said, well, if they're underground, I'm going to need ground penetrating radar.
00:10:10.000 He said, okay.
00:10:11.000 And I said, it's going to have to be airborne because we have to get there fast before the Iraqis respond.
00:10:15.000 He said, okay.
00:10:16.000 So $12.5 million later, we got ground penetrating radar made especially for us, mounted on helicopters that I took into Iraq to look for the buried missiles, which didn't exist.
00:10:25.000 So now we come back and we report again to the CIA and say, they're all gone.
00:10:29.000 They're finished.
00:10:30.000 The CIA came back and said, yeah, nice try.
00:10:33.000 But our number now is that they have between 12 and 20.
00:10:37.000 And that number will never change, no matter what you do.
00:10:41.000 Wow!
00:10:42.000 And that number didn't change.
00:10:43.000 When we invaded Iraq in 2003, the CIA was still claiming that they had 12 and 20.
00:10:48.000 Now, here's the deal.
00:10:48.000 Wow!
00:10:49.000 Not only that, but for instance...
00:10:52.000 We weren't just looking for the weapons, but we were also trying to find out what happened to the weapons, because the Iraqis destroyed a lot of weapons, blew them up, and we were trying to forensically reconstruct this.
00:11:02.000 So I'm on a document search, etc.
00:11:04.000 I need to investigate presidential security of Saddam Hussein, because they were involved in this.
00:11:09.000 And I did.
00:11:10.000 Yeah.
00:11:11.000 I mean, I went to their headquarters.
00:11:13.000 We're talking showing up and getting guns put in our face, people.
00:11:15.000 Of course.
00:11:16.000 And we're like, no, we're not backing down.
00:11:17.000 We're going to do this.
00:11:18.000 When I led teams into Iraq, I always had some Delta Force guys embedded in the team, and they had a Delta Force squadron standing by to rescue us, because we always assumed we were going to be taking hostage.
00:11:29.000 Super high risk, yeah.
00:11:29.000 Yeah, so this isn't like, you know, geeky city.
00:11:32.000 This is the real deal.
00:11:33.000 Of course.
00:11:33.000 And so we're doing this, we're doing this, doing this.
00:11:35.000 I had guys go in, and we intercepted Saddam's security's Communications.
00:11:41.000 Encrypted communications.
00:11:42.000 I went to Israel, got them to break the code and read us the stuff.
00:11:45.000 So we're getting close to finding the truth.
00:11:47.000 And the U.S. says, no, we don't want the truth.
00:11:50.000 And they shut my operation down.
00:11:52.000 And that's when I resigned.
00:11:53.000 The day I resigned, I left in August of 1998.
00:11:59.000 For the audience, this is well before 9-11.
00:12:02.000 This is well before we invaded Iraq in 2003.
00:12:04.000 So you're saying they were disarmed since the late 90s?
00:12:07.000 They were disarmed since probably 1995, 1996.
00:12:10.000 What a fucking bombshell, dude.
00:12:11.000 So now I get called into the CI. And this is a guy, I can say his name now because it's...
00:12:17.000 Declassified, probably?
00:12:18.000 Larry Sanchez.
00:12:19.000 And Larry Sanchez...
00:12:21.000 From 1994 until 1998 was the senior liaison of the CIA with the inspection teams.
00:12:27.000 And he and I had a pretty good working relationship.
00:12:29.000 We trusted each other.
00:12:31.000 And so he called me and he said, hey, before you resign, somebody in the National Security Council wants to talk to you because they want to talk you out of it.
00:12:39.000 I said, okay, I'll take the call.
00:12:40.000 So I talked to the guy.
00:12:41.000 And they basically said, if you resign, you'll destroy the inspections.
00:12:44.000 You have to stay.
00:12:45.000 And I said, you're destroying the inspections.
00:12:47.000 The inspections are about doing what the Security Council of the United Nations tells them to do, not what the United States says behind the scenes.
00:12:53.000 Our job is to disarm.
00:12:55.000 You have to let me finish the job or I can't stay on.
00:12:57.000 He said, no, well, we're not going to change the way we're doing business.
00:13:00.000 So I left.
00:13:01.000 I hung up.
00:13:02.000 Larry Sanchez turned to me.
00:13:05.000 What's the rating of the show?
00:13:06.000 What can I say?
00:13:07.000 No, you're good.
00:13:08.000 Go ahead.
00:13:08.000 All right.
00:13:09.000 He turned to me and he said, Scott, we're friends.
00:13:10.000 We've been friends for a long time.
00:13:12.000 But if you turn in that letter of resignation, I can never talk to you again.
00:13:16.000 He said, not only that, the FBI is going to fuck you in the ass.
00:13:20.000 The FBI is going to hunt you down.
00:13:22.000 They're going to ruin your life.
00:13:23.000 They're going to ruin your family's life.
00:13:24.000 They're going to make your life a living hell.
00:13:27.000 He said, so think twice about it.
00:13:28.000 And I said, well, You want me to back down because of that?
00:13:32.000 My job is to defend the truth.
00:13:34.000 I'm doing the right thing.
00:13:36.000 I'm speaking out for truth.
00:13:37.000 And he said, don't say I didn't warn you.
00:13:39.000 And the FBI's been trying to fuck me in the ass ever since.
00:13:43.000 But I feel like I had a duty to go out and speak out because...
00:13:47.000 We ended up going to war in Iraq over weapons of mass destruction.
00:13:51.000 And the point is, I'm trying to tell you, as of 1998, I was trying to make the case that if you're going to say they have weapons of mass destruction, then you have to let me do my job.
00:14:00.000 But you can't use my job to go to war.
00:14:02.000 You have to use my job to disarm.
00:14:04.000 And if you're not going to let me disarm, then I can't be part of this mission.
00:14:07.000 And then later on, when they kept pushing this stuff, You know, I had to tell the truth.
00:14:12.000 I said, look, the United States isn't here to disarm Iraq.
00:14:15.000 They're here to get rid of Saddam Hussein, that there aren't weapons of mass destruction.
00:14:18.000 We got rid of the weapons of mass destruction.
00:14:20.000 Whatever we don't have is so small, so minuscule, so dated.
00:14:24.000 To give you an example...
00:14:26.000 There's certain, you know, biological weapons.
00:14:28.000 Remember Colin Powell putting up that white vial?
00:14:28.000 Yeah.
00:14:30.000 Yes.
00:14:31.000 This can kill the world.
00:14:32.000 Yes.
00:14:32.000 Well, it's horseshit.
00:14:33.000 Why?
00:14:34.000 Because, first of all, the Iraqis never produced dry-powdered anthrax.
00:14:37.000 What they made was wet sludge, basically a slurry.
00:14:41.000 Now, here's the interesting thing.
00:14:42.000 They have growth media that they put in petri dishes, biological production scale, produce it up, and you get this sludge.
00:14:48.000 And this is the same anthrax that hit us after 9-11, right?
00:14:50.000 No, no.
00:14:51.000 The anthrax that hit us after 9-11 was the white powder.
00:14:53.000 Oh, okay.
00:14:54.000 That's what Colin Powell was talking about.
00:14:56.000 Okay.
00:14:56.000 This stuff is basically mud.
00:14:58.000 All right.
00:14:58.000 Okay.
00:14:59.000 And they put the mud in a warhead.
00:15:01.000 And they said, that's a biological warhead.
00:15:03.000 That's a biological weapon.
00:15:04.000 I said, that's not.
00:15:05.000 That's sludge in a metal canister.
00:15:09.000 You fire it.
00:15:10.000 The only way it's going to kill you is if it hits you in the head.
00:15:12.000 Because if it lands next to you on the ground and bursts open, the sludge is just going to go into the ground.
00:15:17.000 Unless you get on your hands and knees and eat it, you're not going to die.
00:15:20.000 Okay.
00:15:20.000 So the Iraqis never had a real biological weapons program, but that sludge there only has a limited shelf life.
00:15:27.000 So let's say they hid some of it from us in 1991.
00:15:31.000 By 1995, it's no good.
00:15:33.000 It's turned into just pure mud.
00:15:35.000 And we know they didn't produce any more.
00:15:37.000 Has a shelf life?
00:15:39.000 Absolute shelf life.
00:15:40.000 Same thing with the chemical weapons.
00:15:42.000 So in 1998, when they're saying, Iraq has this, Iraq has that, we're going...
00:15:47.000 Well, we can't prove that they destroyed everything.
00:15:49.000 We can prove they destroyed 97%.
00:15:51.000 But the stuff that we can't find, I can guarantee you by science that it's useless.
00:15:57.000 It's meaningless.
00:15:58.000 So why are we treating it as if it's a real weapon?
00:16:01.000 Because the Security Council says 100%.
00:16:04.000 Okay, I would accept that if you would accept that when we find 100%, like we did with the missiles...
00:16:11.000 You would lift the sanctions on Iraq and bring them back in, as the deal is.
00:16:14.000 Because that was the whole purpose of why they even allowed you guys to come in there was to lift the sanctions so they can be a part of the economy and make money and not be broke and poor.
00:16:23.000 And yet we had repeated secretaries of state, starting with James Baker in 1992, going on to Madeleine Albright, saying that even if Iraq complies with its obligation to disarm, economic sanctions will never be lifted until Saddam Hussein is removed from power.
00:16:38.000 It was always a setup.
00:16:39.000 It was always a scam.
00:16:41.000 Why was the U.S.? Because we got a lot of guys here that might be younger.
00:16:45.000 They might not even remember or know who Saddam Hussein is.
00:16:49.000 Why was the U.S. so hell-bent on getting him out of power?
00:16:52.000 Well, there was, once upon a time, Saddam was our friend.
00:16:55.000 In fact, if you go back and you Google Donald Rumsfeld and Saddam Hussein...
00:16:59.000 Didn't he get a key to the city of Detroit?
00:17:01.000 I don't know about that.
00:17:02.000 Something like that?
00:17:03.000 Well, Donald Rumsfeld went there and shook his hand, and we gave Saddam Hussein billion-dollar loans so he could buy...
00:17:10.000 Weapons of mass destruction and other things.
00:17:12.000 You know, it's funny how we condemn him for using chemical weapons, but I used to debrief a defector named Wafeek Samurai.
00:17:19.000 He was the head of Iraqi intelligence, and he would tell me stories about how American specialists from the defense intelligence agency and the CIA would come to Baghdad And show him the best ways to use chemical weapons in their offenses against the Iranians,
00:17:35.000 especially the Al-Faul offensive at the end.
00:17:37.000 Al-Faul's a peninsula at the end of the Shatel Arab waterway that the Iranians had crossed over and dug in on.
00:17:42.000 And the Iraqis broke their back by using chemical weapons.
00:17:45.000 We're the ones that gave them the satellite imagery that showed the Iranian force disposition.
00:17:50.000 So we helped them use chemical weapons.
00:17:52.000 Some people say that we gave them the money to help them buy the precursors that made the chemical weapons.
00:17:58.000 And then we turn around and condemn them for having chemical weapons.
00:18:01.000 Now, I'm not saying that Saddam should have them.
00:18:03.000 I'm just saying how hypocritical can we be.
00:18:06.000 But what happened is, at the end of the Iran-Iraq war, Iraq was sort of emboldened.
00:18:12.000 They felt like they had stood up to Iran and indeed Israel and the rest of the world.
00:18:18.000 And so they were filling their oats.
00:18:19.000 And so...
00:18:21.000 What they said is that their weapons of mass destruction programs weren't just to deter Iranian aggression.
00:18:26.000 They said it's to deter Israeli aggression.
00:18:30.000 And that's when the Americans went, oh, you can't say that.
00:18:34.000 You're not allowed to do that.
00:18:36.000 And when Israel in the summer of 1990 said they were threatening to hit the Iranian nuclear program, Obama, the Iraqis said, if you do that, we'll burn half of Israel with our chemical weapons.
00:18:49.000 Hmm.
00:18:50.000 That's our deterrence.
00:18:51.000 And that's when America went, we got a problem here.
00:18:54.000 Then Saddam invades Kuwait and...
00:18:57.000 Put Saudi Arabia in a tough spot.
00:18:59.000 Put Saudi Arabia in a tough spot.
00:19:01.000 Put the world oil community.
00:19:02.000 But let's talk about why he invaded Kuwait.
00:19:04.000 Because everybody's just like, well, Saddam's a brutal aggressor.
00:19:06.000 He invaded Kuwait.
00:19:07.000 You see, Kuwait, during the eight-year Iran-Iraq war, was doing slant drilling.
00:19:11.000 That means you set up a drill rig in Kuwaiti soil, and you drill across the border into the oil reservoir on Iraq's side, and they're stealing billions of dollars worth of Iraqi oil.
00:19:23.000 Now, the Iraqis let them do it because they're at war.
00:19:26.000 Then the Kuwaitis turned around and they loaned Iraq $20 billion.
00:19:31.000 Wait, so Iraq let Kuwait do it?
00:19:33.000 Well, they were at war, so they were like— Oh, they didn't have the time to deal with it.
00:19:36.000 Yeah, we're not going to deal with this now.
00:19:37.000 Yeah, okay, we're fighting now.
00:19:38.000 But then after war, what they told the Kuwaitis is, we got all the—it's called the London Group of Banks who were coming at us for these loans.
00:19:46.000 But you're stealing our oil and dumping it on the economy— On the market, and you're depressing the price of oil down to $14 a barrel, and now we can't make enough money to pay off the loans.
00:20:00.000 We need you to stop doing this.
00:20:01.000 This is economic warfare.
00:20:03.000 And America told the Kuwaitis, no, no, no, keep going, keep going.
00:20:06.000 Keep going.
00:20:06.000 So they kept going.
00:20:10.000 The Iraqi said, you guys don't seem to understand.
00:20:12.000 They called together the Arab League in July of 1990.
00:20:15.000 And they said, guys, this is serious.
00:20:18.000 If they keep doing this, we'll have no choice but to invade them.
00:20:21.000 Tell them to stop.
00:20:23.000 Arab League said nothing.
00:20:25.000 Arab League, what countries?
00:20:25.000 So, in August...
00:20:27.000 I'm assuming all the Arab-speaking countries?
00:20:29.000 Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan...
00:20:31.000 Okay.
00:20:32.000 Algeria, the whole thing.
00:20:33.000 So, the Iraqis go into Kuwait in August of 1990.
00:20:38.000 They said, to hell with you, we're finishing this thing.
00:20:41.000 But again, people say Saddam just decided to wake up one morning and invade Kuwait.
00:20:46.000 That's not how it was.
00:20:47.000 But now he invades Kuwait.
00:20:49.000 And George Herbert Walker Bush, W's father, gets out and when he gets out, he's trying to explain to the American people why we have to get ready to go to war.
00:21:02.000 And he said, it's about oil.
00:21:04.000 And the American people went, we ain't buying that oil war.
00:21:07.000 Yeah.
00:21:07.000 We're not doing it.
00:21:08.000 And he went, oops, we can't talk about oil anymore.
00:21:10.000 Let's talk about something else, something else.
00:21:12.000 So that's when they started bringing in the Kuwaiti ambassador's daughter, who testified before Congress claiming that she saw Iraqi soldiers ripping Kuwaiti children out of their incubators and killing them.
00:21:23.000 All a lie.
00:21:24.000 All a lie.
00:21:25.000 100% lies.
00:21:27.000 We just started creating the image of the evil.
00:21:29.000 Now, I'm not saying Saddam's a good guy.
00:21:31.000 I'm just saying that...
00:21:34.000 We had a PR campaign.
00:21:35.000 Just remember, as bad as he was, he was shaking Donald Rumsfeld's hand, and he was considered the best friend of America in the mid-1980s.
00:21:42.000 Suddenly, in 1990, we had to turn him into, and this is what happened.
00:21:46.000 In a fundraiser, I believe, in Dallas, Texas, George Herbert Walker Bush called Saddam Hussein the Middle East equivalent of Adolf Hitler, who must have Nuremberg-like retribution, which means now that you called him Hitler, you have to get rid of him.
00:21:59.000 How can you let Hitler live?
00:22:00.000 And you have to bring him into trial.
00:22:02.000 So now we go to war, and And I was in that war.
00:22:05.000 We fought it.
00:22:06.000 And I can tell you, we had a plan to get rid of Saddam.
00:22:08.000 I can also tell you here, I was tasked, there was a week of my time in the war where my job was to assassinate Saddam Hussein.
00:22:16.000 I was given targets.
00:22:17.000 I had to verify the targets and then turn them over to the Air Force, and we were dropping bombs on targets to kill Saddam.
00:22:24.000 We were actively going after the guy.
00:22:26.000 But When the war ended, it ended because...
00:22:30.000 What year did it end?
00:22:31.000 It ended in late February of 91.
00:22:33.000 It was a very short war.
00:22:35.000 It started on January 17th of 91, ended on February 29th or 28th, around there.
00:22:42.000 But it ended because basically...
00:22:45.000 Did he pull out of Kuwait?
00:22:46.000 Well, he started retreating.
00:22:47.000 And what do you do when you have a column of enemy equipment on a highway?
00:22:51.000 You bomb the lead vehicle, you bomb the rear vehicle, so the column can't move, and then you kill everything in between.
00:22:58.000 And from a military perspective, it's beautiful, baby.
00:23:01.000 It's beautiful, because that's what we wanted to do.
00:23:03.000 That's what war is all about.
00:23:04.000 But unfortunately, CNN now is filming this, and it became bad TV. They're calling it the highway of death.
00:23:11.000 We're murdering the Iraqis.
00:23:13.000 Well, it's war.
00:23:14.000 Murder away.
00:23:16.000 I mean, these are the guys that raped Kuwait, occupied Kuwait.
00:23:19.000 All those vehicles were full of stolen goods they were taking out of Kuwait.
00:23:22.000 No sympathy for the men in that column.
00:23:24.000 Kill them all.
00:23:26.000 But we stopped.
00:23:26.000 Mm-hmm.
00:23:28.000 When the war started, when I opened up, when I got the op order on day one, I opened it up, it said that the strategic objective, the center of gravity, was Saddam Hussein's Republican Guard.
00:23:37.000 About six divisions that he had there, elite forces that propped him up, kept him in.
00:23:43.000 We said, we must destroy the Republican Guard so that Saddam Hussein collapses.
00:23:48.000 Because he's Adolf Hitler, he has to collapse.
00:23:49.000 Of course.
00:23:50.000 But because of the highway of death, The rest of the battle, bringing the pincers in, surrounding the Republican Guard, we were literally 36 hours away from killing them all.
00:24:00.000 30-40 thousand.
00:24:02.000 And believe me, I wanted them all dead.
00:24:04.000 That's what needed to happen.
00:24:05.000 But Colin Powell went, no, this is bad TV, bad imagery.
00:24:08.000 We stopped.
00:24:10.000 Right before we finished the job.
00:24:12.000 Oh, wow.
00:24:12.000 And those divisions went away and suppressed the Kurdish uprising in the North, the Shi uprising in the South, and they kept Saddam Hussein in power.
00:24:20.000 So we had a chance to finish.
00:24:22.000 To get rid of them back in the 90s.
00:24:23.000 But we didn't.
00:24:24.000 So now...
00:24:25.000 Fast forward.
00:24:26.000 Now we have a situation where George Herbert Walker Bush, who called Saddam Hussein Hitler, the war ends and Hitler's still alive.
00:24:33.000 So now the question is, how do we do this?
00:24:35.000 So the CIA came in and briefed.
00:24:38.000 They said...
00:24:40.000 Saddam's in a very weak position right now.
00:24:42.000 His military has just been destroyed.
00:24:44.000 His economy is in tatters.
00:24:46.000 The only thing he has going for him is these weapons of mass destruction.
00:24:50.000 So what we need to do is get rid of them and then Saddam will collapse.
00:24:54.000 We want Saddam gone.
00:24:56.000 So they created the weapons inspectors to go in to put at risk the third pillar of power, the weapons of mass destruction.
00:25:03.000 But there was no endgame.
00:25:04.000 They created us, but they never expected us to finish the job.
00:25:08.000 Our job was to go in and go through the motions of challenging the weapons of mass destruction.
00:25:13.000 Then six months later, Saddam was supposed to go bye-bye.
00:25:17.000 Six months goes by and he's still there.
00:25:19.000 And now he's challenging the inspectors.
00:25:21.000 And that's when I came in.
00:25:22.000 We had to change the game six months later because Saddam wasn't going anywhere.
00:25:28.000 And believe me, while I was a weapons inspector, I'll give you two instances.
00:25:34.000 In the summer of 1996, I carried out an inspection of, we believe that they were hiding documents and material in special Republican Guard units around Baghdad International Airport, because that's sort of a fortified zone.
00:25:49.000 And so what we want, we also believe that they would evacuate them up to Tikrit, which is Saddam Hussein's birthplace, where he had other palaces.
00:25:56.000 So if we stress them, they would retreat to Tikrit.
00:25:59.000 So we put in place systems to detect this movement.
00:26:03.000 And we're going in to surround it and all this stuff.
00:26:06.000 And I'm building this big inspection team to go in.
00:26:08.000 And I told you I had a close relationship with the CIA. We had about a dozen CIA guys on our team, paramilitary guys, who are logistics and communications guys.
00:26:20.000 What I didn't realize is that they had another job.
00:26:23.000 There was a coup being plotted, built around my inspection.
00:26:27.000 My team was supposed to come in.
00:26:29.000 And surround Special Republican Guard facilities, freeze them in place, and then create an incident.
00:26:35.000 And as we're pulled out, cruise missiles would come in and destroy these facilities.
00:26:38.000 There was one unit, the 3rd Battalion of the Special Republican Guard that I wanted to inspect, but it was sort of outside the Palisade.
00:26:47.000 The CIA said, don't worry about that unit.
00:26:49.000 It's okay, but it's not a big deal.
00:26:50.000 I said, but we said we're going to inspect them all.
00:26:52.000 We have to inspect this one.
00:26:54.000 Don't worry about it.
00:26:54.000 Well, the reason why is that was their unit.
00:26:56.000 They had bought the officers.
00:26:58.000 That was the unit that was going to go kill Saddam.
00:27:00.000 But the problem is the Iraqis have good intelligence and they broke into the CIA plot and they knew everything.
00:27:06.000 And when the time came, instead of a coup taking place, they pulled the guys out, they popped them all in the head, then they called up the CIA guy on their own satellite communication system and said, it's all over, guys.
00:27:18.000 Goodbye.
00:27:19.000 And they hung up.
00:27:20.000 Now, that's cool if you're an Iraqi.
00:27:22.000 It's bad if you're a CIA. But imagine me as an inspector being in the middle of this.
00:27:27.000 And the Iraqis are looking at me going...
00:27:29.000 What were you doing?
00:27:30.000 I said, I didn't know anything about it.
00:27:32.000 They said, uh-huh, you're an American.
00:27:34.000 You're an intelligence officer.
00:27:36.000 These guys work for you.
00:27:38.000 Because they don't know the difference between a Marine and the CIA. They don't know the difference.
00:27:42.000 They don't know the difference.
00:27:43.000 And an American is an American.
00:27:45.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:27:46.000 And again, just so people understand, I'm as American as you get.
00:27:49.000 Of course.
00:27:49.000 You won't meet a more patriotic person than me.
00:27:51.000 But when I joined the weapons inspection team, I went down to Washington, D.C., and I demanded a meeting at the State Department with the State Department, the CIA, the Defense Department, all the players.
00:28:01.000 Yeah.
00:28:02.000 And I said, okay, I'm going to come in and I'm going to create this intelligence unit.
00:28:05.000 I need to know the rule of the game.
00:28:07.000 I need to know the rules.
00:28:08.000 Is this a wink, wink, nod, nod thing?
00:28:10.000 Meaning that we're going to do something, but really something else is happening?
00:28:13.000 You have to tell me up front.
00:28:15.000 They didn't tell you.
00:28:15.000 That's crazy.
00:28:16.000 No.
00:28:17.000 What they said is, no, no, no.
00:28:18.000 We insist that you comply with Security Council resolutions.
00:28:22.000 You're going to build a unit and you work for the executive chairman.
00:28:25.000 You work for the United Nations.
00:28:26.000 And I said, you guys understand.
00:28:28.000 That once you tell me this, that's what I'm going to do.
00:28:31.000 Yeah.
00:28:32.000 That's my mission.
00:28:32.000 They said, that's what we want you to do.
00:28:34.000 So is that normal where, like, for example, you have a plan of action that they tell you to do, and then they bring in outside people to make this other alternate plan.
00:28:40.000 Is that normal to happen?
00:28:41.000 For the CIA, it's normal.
00:28:42.000 Yeah.
00:28:43.000 What I learned about the CIA, with all due respect to all the CIA guys listening, you know what I'm saying is true.
00:28:49.000 They lie, they cheat, they steal.
00:28:52.000 That's what they do for a living.
00:28:53.000 They can't be trusted.
00:28:54.000 If you're in the CIA and you got the secret decoder ring, I think?
00:29:15.000 And I spent the next seven years beating my head against all going to war against the CIA for this.
00:29:20.000 The last story I'll tell you, the Iraqis kicked me out, my inspection team out in January of 1998, accused me of being a CIA officer.
00:29:27.000 The whole works.
00:29:28.000 And they said, we're not going to work with Ritter ever again because he's evil.
00:29:32.000 Yeah.
00:29:32.000 Now, we can't allow that to happen because that means the Iraqis are dictating who gets to be on inspection teams.
00:29:37.000 So there's a big rigmarole, the challenge, and I was tasked with leading an inspection team back in to challenge the Iraqis.
00:29:44.000 The Iraqis had agreed to certain rules and stuff.
00:29:47.000 A challenge inspection.
00:29:50.000 I went to the White House and I briefed the White House on the inspection concept of operations.
00:29:55.000 I went to the State Department, briefed that.
00:29:56.000 We briefed it to the Pentagon.
00:29:58.000 And finally...
00:30:00.000 We're at the U.S. mission in New York, where Ambassador Bill Richardson's at.
00:30:06.000 He's the head ambassador.
00:30:08.000 He's there.
00:30:09.000 His deputy's there.
00:30:10.000 The CIA's there.
00:30:11.000 My boss, Richard Butler, is there.
00:30:13.000 Charles Dolfer's there, and I'm there.
00:30:16.000 And basically, Richard Butler, a UN official, gets up with a whiteboard, and he starts drawing dates on it.
00:30:21.000 He goes, okay, Ritter, you've got to go in on this date.
00:30:24.000 And then you have to create a crisis here.
00:30:27.000 And the crisis was I had to inspect the Iraqi Ministry of Defense.
00:30:30.000 Now, the Iraqis had told us that if we ever tried to inspect the Ministry of Defense, that was a red line, it would mean war.
00:30:36.000 And I said, why are we inspecting the Ministry of Defense?
00:30:37.000 That's not on my target list.
00:30:39.000 They said, well, the Americans have put it on the target list.
00:30:41.000 I said, why?
00:30:42.000 What's the arms control reason?
00:30:43.000 We believe that they're hiding documents related to weapons of mass destruction.
00:30:47.000 I said, but you know, it's war.
00:30:48.000 They said, do your job.
00:30:49.000 I said, okay, I'll do my job.
00:30:51.000 But I said, it's strange that we're sitting there coordinating our inspection timeline with America's ability to go to war.
00:30:57.000 You're telling me I have to create a crisis here, so America can bomb in here.
00:31:01.000 And they're all saying, well, yes.
00:31:02.000 And I said, okay, I'm going to go in and I'm going to have the inspection on that date.
00:31:05.000 That's my job.
00:31:06.000 They said...
00:31:07.000 Good.
00:31:08.000 So I took my team in.
00:31:09.000 We show up at the Ministry of Defense, and the guns come out, the whole thing.
00:31:13.000 They're not going to let us in.
00:31:14.000 It's high tension.
00:31:16.000 And the Iraqis come over.
00:31:17.000 They said, what are you doing?
00:31:18.000 And I said, I got to inspect.
00:31:20.000 They said, you can't.
00:31:21.000 This is the Ministry of Defense.
00:31:22.000 This is war.
00:31:23.000 I said, you got to let me in.
00:31:25.000 They said, well, we aren't going to let you in.
00:31:28.000 I said, guys, let me just be very blunt with you.
00:31:30.000 If you don't let me in, the missiles are going to blow this place up.
00:31:33.000 They're going to kill you.
00:31:34.000 Everybody I'm talking to is going to be dead.
00:31:36.000 You may kidnap me.
00:31:37.000 I may die.
00:31:38.000 It doesn't matter.
00:31:39.000 If you let me in, I can promise you that I'm going to do my job.
00:31:44.000 You know me.
00:31:45.000 If you have weapons of mass destruction stuff in there, I'm going to find it.
00:31:48.000 If I find it, you're screwed.
00:31:50.000 But if you don't have it, you also know me.
00:31:52.000 I will walk away.
00:31:53.000 I'm not here to spy on you, but you got to let me in.
00:31:56.000 They went back to Tariq Aziz.
00:31:58.000 They went back to Saddam Hussein.
00:32:03.000 Yeah.
00:32:04.000 Yeah.
00:32:09.000 Yeah.
00:32:20.000 We'll let you in.
00:32:21.000 Oh, shit.
00:32:22.000 And I got to take my team in.
00:32:23.000 We spent 16 hours in the Ministry of Defense going through everything.
00:32:29.000 We didn't find anything related to weapons mass destruction, and we left.
00:32:32.000 Damn.
00:32:32.000 There was no war.
00:32:34.000 The Americans are so pissed off at me.
00:32:37.000 I was going to say, did you get...
00:32:39.000 Well, no, that was in March of 1998.
00:32:42.000 Yeah.
00:32:42.000 And like I told you, by August 1998, they had shut my program down.
00:32:46.000 That's why I resigned, because they weren't letting me do my job anymore.
00:32:48.000 Yeah.
00:32:49.000 Wow.
00:32:49.000 There's a saying that people follow, certain higher-up people follow, where it says, out of chaos comes order.
00:32:55.000 Is that a thing you think Americans use to their advantage?
00:32:58.000 Chaos comes order?
00:32:59.000 I think Americans create chaos so that they can dictate an outcome.
00:33:04.000 Right.
00:33:04.000 Yeah, because it's easier, you know, first of all, most humans are rational players.
00:33:09.000 So if you sit down with people and say, hey, look, the solution I'm offering is we're going to put cruise missiles in on the site, kill a whole bunch of people and pick up the pieces, they go, you're a madman.
00:33:19.000 But now if I create chaos, if I create an incident, if I make it look like there is no other choice, then that's the option.
00:33:25.000 And that's the American way of doing business.
00:33:27.000 Got it.
00:33:27.000 Yeah.
00:33:30.000 Wow.
00:33:30.000 I didn't want to interrupt you while you were telling that story.
00:33:33.000 But just to bring it back full circle, because I asked originally, why did they want Saddam so bad?
00:33:39.000 And it seems to me everything was all good in the 80s.
00:33:41.000 It wasn't until he threatened to attack Israel that we said, no, we need this guy gone.
00:33:45.000 Well, he was a political problem.
00:33:47.000 George Herbert Walker Bush compared him to Adolf Hitler.
00:33:50.000 Yeah.
00:33:51.000 Okay, here's some other news.
00:33:52.000 But that was after he made that threat, right?
00:33:54.000 Against Israel, correct.
00:33:55.000 It was all about Israel.
00:33:57.000 But here's the deal.
00:33:59.000 George Herbert Walker Bush lost his re-election bid.
00:34:02.000 And Slick Willy won the election.
00:34:05.000 And Slick Willy's coming in.
00:34:06.000 Y'all know who Slick Willy is?
00:34:07.000 I did not have sexual relations with that woman.
00:34:11.000 So Slick Willy's going to be the president.
00:34:14.000 Slick Willy, that's the first I've heard that shit.
00:34:16.000 I'm in Baghdad.
00:34:19.000 And we're called into the oil minister's office, who's also one of the...
00:34:23.000 He was a general who helped build all the weapons of mass destruction.
00:34:26.000 And I'm coming in to try and make a point about our inspection, because it was always me telling them, you have to do this.
00:34:31.000 This is what the law says.
00:34:32.000 And they're pushing back saying, you know, you're trying to kill Iraqi children.
00:34:35.000 There's a screaming matches.
00:34:37.000 So I'm coming back in and we're...
00:34:38.000 You got to let us in.
00:34:40.000 We got to do the job.
00:34:40.000 And he's looking at me going...
00:34:42.000 You can play Mr.
00:34:43.000 Colonial Master all you want.
00:34:44.000 Your days are numbered.
00:34:46.000 I said, what are you talking about?
00:34:47.000 He said, we got guys talking with Clinton's guys, and it's going to be okay.
00:34:52.000 When Bill Clinton becomes president, we're going to make good.
00:34:55.000 America's going to come in.
00:34:56.000 They're going to develop our oil.
00:34:58.000 The sanctions are going to be lifted, and you guys are going to be no more.
00:35:01.000 So go ahead and be big now, but it's over.
00:35:03.000 It's over.
00:35:03.000 It's finished.
00:35:05.000 Amir Rashid was the guy's name.
00:35:07.000 And we're looking at each other going, Wow.
00:35:10.000 The Clinton guys are talking to the Iraqis.
00:35:12.000 That's amazing.
00:35:13.000 Well, what happened after that?
00:35:17.000 I don't think people understand.
00:35:19.000 George Herbert Walker Bush's last day in office on Inauguration Day, Bill Clinton's getting sworn in.
00:35:25.000 You know what happened that day besides an inauguration?
00:35:28.000 What?
00:35:28.000 We bombed Iraq.
00:35:30.000 Oh.
00:35:31.000 We bombed Iraq.
00:35:32.000 We started a war.
00:35:33.000 And then when that didn't break up events, even after that, when Bill Clinton said, that's okay, we'll work through this.
00:35:41.000 Yeah.
00:35:46.000 Yeah.
00:36:02.000 Oh.
00:36:03.000 So they're American explosives.
00:36:04.000 They're Kuwaiti explosives.
00:36:06.000 The Kuwaitis cooked us up.
00:36:07.000 All the guys that they confessed, you know, they got their confessions and the FBI came in and the guys are going, yeah, but they tortured us.
00:36:14.000 Now you're an FBI officer.
00:36:15.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:36:16.000 You can't take it.
00:36:17.000 I can't take it.
00:36:18.000 I can't do this.
00:36:20.000 But it doesn't matter.
00:36:21.000 The CIA came to Bill Clinton and said...
00:36:23.000 You can't allow the Iraqis to think they can assassinate an American president.
00:36:27.000 You have to do something.
00:36:29.000 And so in June, he fired cruise missiles at the Iraqi intelligence headquarters.
00:36:33.000 And that ended We're good to go.
00:36:56.000 Getting rid of Saddam Hussein wasn't about how evil Saddam was.
00:37:00.000 He was a political liability to American presidents.
00:37:03.000 His continued survival was an embarrassment to George Herbert Walker Bush, then Bill Clinton, and then W. Remember, W. That man tried to kill my father.
00:37:14.000 That's why we want the war, ladies and gentlemen.
00:37:16.000 That's it in a nutshell.
00:37:17.000 It wasn't about weapons of mass destruction.
00:37:19.000 It's that George W. Bush had a hard-on for Saddam because he believes Saddam tried to kill his father, even though that was a made-up assassination attempt.
00:37:27.000 By the Kuwaitis.
00:37:28.000 By the Kuwaitis.
00:37:29.000 When, after the war, during time, I've inspected the Iraqi intelligence headquarters.
00:37:34.000 Yeah.
00:37:34.000 I've looked through their files.
00:37:35.000 There was nothing.
00:37:37.000 After the war, when we captured the headquarters and all the Iraqi intelligence officers and interrogated them, you'd think that if we found proof of this assassination attempt, it'd be front page news.
00:37:48.000 Have you heard anything about it?
00:37:50.000 Why not?
00:37:51.000 Because it never happened.
00:37:53.000 It was made up.
00:37:55.000 Holy shit, man.
00:37:57.000 Guys, Scott Rudder.
00:38:00.000 I mean, you got someone who was actually there inspecting the weapons in Iraq, like, bro.
00:38:07.000 But the fact that he found nothing there, and he still went ahead and did what he did, just says a lot about America, man.
00:38:13.000 Damn!
00:38:14.000 Wow.
00:38:14.000 Damn, bro.
00:38:16.000 Well, not just that.
00:38:16.000 Remember, this war cost several thousand American lives.
00:38:19.000 Yeah.
00:38:20.000 And hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives, millions of Iraqis displaced.
00:38:25.000 You know, I'm not...
00:38:27.000 You know, like I said, I'm a Marine, and war is war.
00:38:30.000 You want to go to war against me, you're going to die.
00:38:32.000 I mean, not anymore.
00:38:33.000 I'm 61 years old, so I'm not going to kill too much anymore.
00:38:36.000 How many of your buddies died during that time?
00:38:38.000 Actually, I was very fortunate.
00:38:41.000 I've only had a handful of people die over time.
00:38:46.000 But during the actual Gulf War, I say only, but about 150 Americans lost their lives at the time, and none of them were—I can't say none of them.
00:38:56.000 There was a helicopter that went down that had some people on there.
00:39:01.000 But, you know, no, we escaped.
00:39:04.000 It's not like this current war, I mean, where thousands of people died.
00:39:07.000 But remember, I just want Americans to reflect on this.
00:39:09.000 Every American life lost in Iraq— It's not because of the Iraqis or Al-Qaeda or ISIS. I have to tell you this.
00:39:17.000 When Saddam Hussein was in power, there was no Al-Qaeda or ISIS in Iraq.
00:39:22.000 Yeah, that's true.
00:39:23.000 They'll never admit that, yeah.
00:39:26.000 And Saddam and Osama hated each other.
00:39:28.000 100%.
00:39:28.000 I don't understand how we drew that connection after 9-11.
00:39:32.000 We made it up.
00:39:33.000 We made it up out of thin air.
00:39:35.000 But my point is, this war didn't need to be fought.
00:39:42.000 We're good to go.
00:39:58.000 The United States has a lot of blood on its hands.
00:40:00.000 And people need to, I mean, we need to just wake up and take responsibility for this at some point in time.
00:40:05.000 Because if we don't, if we forgive that, then it sort of explains why everything we do today, and I think we're probably going to get into Ukraine eventually.
00:40:15.000 Everything we do today is predicated on the same pattern of behavior.
00:40:20.000 The same pattern that was exhibited by the United States and Iraq, the lies, the distortions, etc., is what happened in Ukraine.
00:40:27.000 Nothing you're being told about Ukraine today is the truth, just like nothing you were told about Iraq was the truth back then.
00:40:33.000 Welcome to the news, man.
00:40:35.000 Holy shit, bro.
00:40:35.000 You are fake news.
00:40:36.000 At least now, right, with people being able to have their own platforms, independent media, you can kind of combat the BS with the Russia-Ukraine stuff.
00:40:43.000 But back in the 90s, that was it.
00:40:45.000 You had Fox News, CNN. What they told you is what it was.
00:40:47.000 And I think that's how they were able to so easily go to war back in the early 2000s because after 9-11 happened, it was a sensitive moment.
00:40:54.000 Everyone was patriotic.
00:40:55.000 They're like, yeah, we got to go war on terror, war on terror.
00:40:57.000 And then we're able to, like, lie to everybody and say, yeah...
00:41:01.000 Osama is connected to Saddam when in reality, Osama wanted to go to war with Saddam when he invaded Kuwait because people don't know.
00:41:07.000 It amazes me how people don't know this.
00:41:09.000 Osama is a Saudi, guys.
00:41:11.000 Well, not by lineage, but he's Saudi Arabian.
00:41:13.000 And when he invaded Kuwait...
00:41:16.000 He wanted to fight for the royal family, but they said, no, we have the Americans.
00:41:20.000 And then Osama took that as an insult because he's like, why do we have infidels defending a Muslim land, blah, blah, blah.
00:41:25.000 And then he talked poorly about the Saudi government, and then they basically ostracized him and sent his ass to Sudan and took his citizenship away.
00:41:32.000 During the war, a little war story, I was attached to a special operations command that's part of a central command.
00:41:40.000 A guy named Jesse Johnson ran it.
00:41:44.000 A brave guy.
00:41:44.000 He was involved in Desert One and all this stuff.
00:41:46.000 But he called me and he had a problem.
00:41:49.000 He said, the Saudis have approached us and they've got a whole bunch of these Mujahideen from Afghanistan in a camp.
00:41:56.000 And they're asking us if we can do anything with them.
00:41:59.000 You want to tell the people real quick?
00:42:00.000 Because they might not know who Mujahideen is.
00:42:02.000 The Mujahideen are the Saudi freedom fighters.
00:42:05.000 Basically, in 1979, the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan.
00:42:09.000 And then the CIA, working with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, put together a covert action to recruit jihadists or Muslims who went on jihad against the Soviet Union to fight against the Soviet Union.
00:42:23.000 Osama bin Laden was one of the Saudis who funded it, built camps, etc.
00:42:27.000 They don't talk about that in history class.
00:42:29.000 They won't talk about that.
00:42:30.000 So it was a whole bunch of Saudis that went to Pakistan, that went into Afghanistan.
00:42:36.000 And then when the fighting ended, When Iraq invaded Kuwait, they came to Saudi Arabia and said, just like you said, they said, hey, let us defend this.
00:42:45.000 And the Saudis were saying, no, no, no, no.
00:42:47.000 So now the Saudis went, what do we do with this guy?
00:42:49.000 So Jesse Johnson comes to me and he goes...
00:42:52.000 What should we do with these guys?
00:42:53.000 And I said, you want the truth?
00:42:55.000 I said, kill them.
00:42:55.000 He said, yeah.
00:42:56.000 Kill them all.
00:42:57.000 Right now.
00:42:57.000 Right now.
00:42:58.000 Surround them and kill them all.
00:43:00.000 Every single one of them.
00:43:01.000 He said, well, we can't do that.
00:43:02.000 And I said, well, then...
00:43:03.000 Paid them money.
00:43:04.000 The CIA funded them.
00:43:05.000 I said, let's just...
00:43:06.000 I said, you can't integrate them.
00:43:08.000 You can't empower them.
00:43:09.000 You're going to have to ignore them.
00:43:10.000 But I said, somebody's going to have to have a plan for these guys when this war is done.
00:43:14.000 Because by ignoring them, we're going to, excuse my language, piss them off.
00:43:16.000 Yeah.
00:43:17.000 Well, we ignored them.
00:43:18.000 We pissed them off.
00:43:19.000 And the rest is history.
00:43:20.000 Wow.
00:43:21.000 And then the Mujahideen ended up being what you guys know now as Al-Qaeda.
00:43:26.000 And we funded them directly to fight the Soviets in the 1980s, Bill.
00:43:30.000 Like, yo, it's crazy.
00:43:31.000 Like, when you actually look this stuff up, declassified documents, and you search on the internet, it's all there.
00:43:36.000 It's all public information.
00:43:36.000 But, you know, people don't want to know.
00:43:38.000 People don't want to teach it.
00:43:40.000 My thing is, I agree.
00:43:42.000 You don't want to know the truth.
00:43:43.000 But how can we ever stop it?
00:43:44.000 How do you ever, like, combat this?
00:43:46.000 Like, just...
00:43:47.000 Truth.
00:43:48.000 Yeah.
00:43:48.000 Truth.
00:43:49.000 I mean, here's the hard part, you know.
00:43:52.000 American citizens have to understand that the way this country is built, and I know people are going to come back and say, you're so naive, Scott, and all that.
00:43:59.000 Maybe.
00:44:00.000 But if you, you know, again, just read the documents.
00:44:03.000 We the people of the United States of America, in order to form a more perfect union.
00:44:08.000 That's the Constitution.
00:44:10.000 We the people.
00:44:12.000 We're the power.
00:44:14.000 You know, people keep saying that elections are cooked, elections are meaningless and all that.
00:44:18.000 They're cooked because we let them become cooked.
00:44:20.000 They're cooked because we've allowed political parties to come in and take over the responsibility.
00:44:25.000 I've got to ask you about Trump, too.
00:44:27.000 We're going to talk about the Trump situation.
00:44:30.000 Being a good citizen is hard work.
00:44:32.000 I'll give you another short story just to underscore this.
00:44:36.000 During the build-up to the Iraq War, I was on TV a lot getting beat up because I was trying to tell the truth.
00:44:44.000 It didn't matter that we're talking about Iraqi weapons and mass destruction, and I was the guy who ran intelligence for it.
00:44:49.000 So you weren't running on Fox News and stuff?
00:44:51.000 I was on Fox News, CNN, the whole thing.
00:44:54.000 But every time I'd come on, they'd have like five guys against me.
00:44:58.000 Right.
00:44:58.000 Or I'd speak, and then they'd bring in.
00:44:59.000 And these guys knew nothing about WMD. They were literally, you know, Clifford Mays, a political guy, this, that.
00:45:04.000 But they were like, no!
00:45:04.000 Never stepped a foot in fucking Iraq.
00:45:06.000 Not at all.
00:45:07.000 And I'm the guy who did the job.
00:45:08.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:45:09.000 And they're like, well, he doesn't know what he's talking about.
00:45:11.000 I'm the guy that did the job.
00:45:13.000 He doesn't know what he's talking about.
00:45:14.000 So, anyways, we're going in and these are good friends of mine.
00:45:17.000 We play golf and all this stuff.
00:45:18.000 I've known them forever.
00:45:20.000 And on Monday nights, we used to go out and watch Monday Night Football, get wings, get beer, and sit there and talk.
00:45:26.000 And, you know, I didn't want to get too political because these are my friends.
00:45:30.000 But I was just like, guys, what...
00:45:32.000 What's up?
00:45:34.000 What's going on?
00:45:35.000 They said, come on, Scott, it's not fair.
00:45:37.000 They said, you lived this.
00:45:38.000 This was your life.
00:45:39.000 You got paid to know this stuff.
00:45:41.000 This is your job 24-7.
00:45:42.000 Man, we got real lives.
00:45:44.000 You know, I get up in the morning.
00:45:45.000 I got to go do my job.
00:45:46.000 I do it for eight hours.
00:45:47.000 I have to come home.
00:45:49.000 You know, I barely have any time.
00:45:51.000 And here, you know, when I do have time, I come out with you guys on Monday night to relax.
00:45:54.000 The last thing I want to do is talk about.
00:45:55.000 And I sort of felt bad.
00:45:57.000 I went, you're right.
00:45:58.000 You're right.
00:45:59.000 I'm sorry.
00:46:00.000 I apologize.
00:46:01.000 Then the game starts.
00:46:02.000 These guys are in fantasy football leagues.
00:46:04.000 And they're all sitting there, oh man, what kind of play is that?
00:46:08.000 It's not a high percentage play.
00:46:10.000 On that play, you know that if you went off the left tackle, you're going to get four yards.
00:46:14.000 And I'm like, that's a lot of statistics you're throwing out there.
00:46:18.000 How do you know that?
00:46:20.000 Oh, we study it.
00:46:20.000 We get the books and we read up and we study all our players and we go online.
00:46:24.000 I said, so, you're willing to spend 20-25 hours a week studying fantasy fucking football, and yet you don't have time when an American's going to go to war and die.
00:46:37.000 Yep.
00:46:38.000 Our priorities are screwed up.
00:46:40.000 Excuse my language.
00:46:40.000 I apologize for that bad word.
00:46:41.000 No, no, no.
00:46:42.000 You can swear, bro.
00:46:42.000 We don't watch sports, man.
00:46:45.000 Yeah.
00:46:45.000 No, but I mean, I used to.
00:46:47.000 I don't watch sports as much as I used to.
00:46:49.000 I mean, I love sports, but again, I'm just sitting there saying there's just so much going on in the world today that's so important that on Sunday, when I could be watching football, I used to love watching football.
00:46:59.000 I'm a Miami Dolphin fan from way back.
00:47:01.000 People don't know that.
00:47:02.000 Yeah, Marino days.
00:47:03.000 Oh, Bob, greasy days.
00:47:04.000 What are you talking about?
00:47:05.000 Oh, shit, way back.
00:47:06.000 Bye.
00:47:06.000 I'm all in the back going crazy.
00:47:08.000 In 1969, my father was, I was a young kid, 69, I was 8 years old, and my dad is...
00:47:16.000 Zodiac Killer was running around killing bitches in San Francisco at that time.
00:47:19.000 My dad was trying to do a house project on a Sunday, and I was being a pain in ass as every 8-year-old kid is.
00:47:26.000 So he picks me up, throws me in front of the couch.
00:47:28.000 Back then we had the Zenith, so he put aluminum foil on the thing, got the screen in, clicked around, and there was a football game on.
00:47:35.000 Yeah.
00:47:36.000 And he goes, okay, your job is to watch this team.
00:47:38.000 He looked at it.
00:47:39.000 He goes, that's Miami Dolphins.
00:47:42.000 That's Bob Greasy.
00:47:43.000 He's fresh out of Purdue.
00:47:44.000 And I want to report, is he a good quarterback or not?
00:47:47.000 And like a good kid, I sat there and I watched the game.
00:47:50.000 And afterwards, I went, Bob Greasy is a great quarterback.
00:47:52.000 And I fell in love with Bob Greasy.
00:47:53.000 And I was a Miami Dolphin fan for life.
00:47:56.000 And a couple of years later, they had the undefeated season.
00:47:58.000 Then they won the Super Bowl after that.
00:48:00.000 And I'm like, I picked the best team in the world.
00:48:02.000 And they've never done anything since then.
00:48:03.000 Yeah.
00:48:04.000 Horrible experience for me, but I'm a huge dolphin fan.
00:48:07.000 Yeah, wow.
00:48:09.000 So just, I guess, to sum up the Iraq version before we go on to Ukraine and Russia.
00:48:13.000 Guys, like the goddamn video.
00:48:14.000 You guys are getting, like, crazy value right now.
00:48:18.000 Like, you got someone who actually had boots on the ground in Iraq and can conclusively tell you how there were no weapons of mass destruction after 1998, pretty much.
00:48:25.000 Yeah.
00:48:26.000 So, to me, it looks like there's a couple reasons why we want Saddam out of power.
00:48:30.000 One, personal vengeance.
00:48:32.000 Two, issues for Israel, who's an ally.
00:48:37.000 And then, third...
00:48:40.000 Could you say oil, or is that a lazy explanation?
00:48:43.000 Well, first of all, how can you be lazy about oil?
00:48:45.000 It runs everything.
00:48:46.000 But I hate saying, oh, we invaded for oil.
00:48:49.000 But it's not just for oil.
00:48:50.000 It's for...
00:48:51.000 Look, there's a guy who I don't have too much use for, but he...
00:48:56.000 You know, he had his moment, Wesley Clark.
00:48:58.000 He was a four-star general, commander of NATO forces.
00:49:03.000 And he went on and told a story about right after 9-11, he was called into a meeting, I think, with Paul Wolfowitz, who was a deputy secretary of defense at the time.
00:49:15.000 And there was a briefing where they said that they're going to go to war in Iraq.
00:49:19.000 And, of course, the question was, Iraq didn't attack us.
00:49:23.000 Why are we going to war in Iraq?
00:49:24.000 Yeah.
00:49:26.000 It was these guys out of Afghanistan, but if you want to really be honest about it, it was these guys out of Hamburg, Germany.
00:49:33.000 I mean, if we're really going to bomb the place that the planning for 9-11 was done, that's Hamburg, Germany.
00:49:39.000 But we didn't bomb that.
00:49:41.000 But why Iraq?
00:49:43.000 And they said, well, because this is going to be the beginning of a strategy where we're going to invade seven countries.
00:49:49.000 The idea was that we were going to use Iraq as the beginning of wiping everybody out in the Middle East and putting all these governments in place that would be sympathetic to Israel.
00:49:58.000 We went to war against Iraq to get rid of Israel's number one threat, Saddam Hussein.
00:50:02.000 That's why we went to war against Iraq.
00:50:06.000 Hey man, he said it!
00:50:11.000 But again, I mean, just to back it up, because in case there's YouTube...
00:50:16.000 In case there's YouTube sensors out there, let me just...
00:50:21.000 In 1994...
00:50:23.000 Yeah.
00:50:24.000 I traveled to Israel October of 1994 on a secret mission with the United Nations.
00:50:29.000 We needed Israeli intelligence help.
00:50:32.000 And the people say, well, why would you go to Israel?
00:50:33.000 They're the enemies of Iraq.
00:50:34.000 That's exactly why we went to Israel.
00:50:36.000 You see, we're getting close.
00:50:38.000 To being able to close the books on Iraqi weapons programs.
00:50:41.000 We're coming close to accounting for everything.
00:50:43.000 But the Israelis were making noise.
00:50:45.000 They said, no, we don't trust these people.
00:50:47.000 And here's my concern.
00:50:48.000 If we went forward and said, we accounted for everything, I know that the Israelis would take an envelope and they'd slide it under the door of every member of Congress.
00:50:56.000 And they'd open it up and there'd be intelligence that shows that the Iraqis were holding on to something.
00:51:00.000 And then we're ruined.
00:51:01.000 So I said, why don't we preempt this?
00:51:03.000 We'll go to Israel and we'll get them involved.
00:51:06.000 And that's why I went to...
00:51:08.000 With intelligence.
00:51:09.000 I was the intelligence guy.
00:51:10.000 So I went in there and I said, I need their help.
00:51:13.000 That explains why you worked with Mossad.
00:51:14.000 Oh, hell yeah.
00:51:16.000 Mossad indirectly, the guys I worked directly for were Amman, military intelligence.
00:51:20.000 Okay.
00:51:21.000 But Mossad is everywhere.
00:51:23.000 Facts.
00:51:24.000 Can't escape.
00:51:24.000 They might be in this room.
00:51:27.000 They're on our phones.
00:51:28.000 They're on our phones.
00:51:29.000 But I went there and we started a relationship with the Israelis there.
00:51:34.000 I'm talking about a very close relationship.
00:51:37.000 Yeah.
00:51:38.000 I worked with the head of intelligence.
00:51:41.000 When I'd come, I'd be briefing.
00:51:42.000 I met the Minister of Defense.
00:51:44.000 We worked together.
00:51:49.000 They were very open with me about the threats.
00:51:52.000 I mean, they introduced me.
00:51:53.000 For instance, they have a guy they call the Doubting Thomas.
00:51:56.000 His job was after the Yom Kippur War in 1973 when the Egyptians surprised them.
00:52:01.000 They said, how did we be taken by surprise?
00:52:03.000 And they said, it's because nobody would ask questions.
00:52:06.000 Intelligence assessments would come in, and people just accepted that they were accurate.
00:52:09.000 Nobody challenged them.
00:52:11.000 So the Doubting Thomas' job was to challenge everything.
00:52:14.000 And so I briefed the Doubting Thomas so that he could challenge every assessment.
00:52:17.000 And the Israelis worked very closely with us.
00:52:20.000 We literally drained their intelligence databases and turned them into inspections so that the Israelis were believing me when I said there's nothing.
00:52:28.000 But they were getting very comfortable.
00:52:30.000 I'll give you an example of it.
00:52:32.000 In 1991, during the war, when the Iraqis started firing Scud missiles into Israel, the Israelis would sound off these alarms.
00:52:40.000 And the Israelis had...
00:52:43.000 They put saran wrap on their house, turned it into all this.
00:52:46.000 They're putting the gas mask on, but they put it on wrong.
00:52:49.000 Babies suffocated in their mother's arms.
00:52:52.000 Old people died because of the gas mask.
00:52:54.000 They suffocated.
00:52:55.000 A lot of Israelis died and there was panic.
00:52:58.000 People fled and all this stuff.
00:52:59.000 It was a big deal.
00:53:01.000 And so now the head of intelligence is coming to me and he calls me and he goes, I have to go brief the Prime Minister right now.
00:53:08.000 This was in 1994.
00:53:09.000 The Saudis were making a move on Kuwait.
00:53:11.000 The Americans were putting Patriot missiles in place.
00:53:13.000 Everybody believed the Iraqis would fire scuds again.
00:53:16.000 He said, I have to go brief the Prime Minister.
00:53:18.000 We have to make a decision.
00:53:19.000 Do we release gas masks to the Israeli people in preparation for this?
00:53:25.000 He said, the last time we did it was a disaster.
00:53:27.000 He said, so I need you to tell me right now, does Iraq have scud missiles that can be tipped with chemical weapons that can hit Israel?
00:53:38.000 What'd you say?
00:53:39.000 I said no.
00:53:41.000 And he believed me.
00:53:41.000 And he went and briefed the Prime Minister of Israel, and they didn't issue the gas masks.
00:53:46.000 So, my point is, the Israelis were actually believing what we were saying.
00:53:50.000 But they were involved in all the inspections.
00:53:52.000 By the time I left, when I started, Iraq was their number one threat.
00:53:57.000 They tried to kill Saddam.
00:53:58.000 There was an assassination attempt against Saddam that went, oh, I mean, this went bad.
00:54:03.000 They did a rehearsal for it.
00:54:05.000 And unfortunately, there was a live fire incident.
00:54:06.000 They ended up killing a bunch of their own guys.
00:54:08.000 So, They're ruthless.
00:54:09.000 They've been killing Arab powers since the beginning.
00:54:14.000 I can't comment on that, but I can say that they were trying to kill Saddam, and it went tits up, and it didn't work.
00:54:21.000 But Saddam was the number one threat.
00:54:23.000 When I left in 1998, Iraq had dropped about number six.
00:54:27.000 Oh, really?
00:54:28.000 Wow.
00:54:28.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:54:28.000 Who was the number one threat at that point?
00:54:31.000 You want it?
00:54:32.000 America?
00:54:32.000 You ready for this?
00:54:33.000 No, no, no.
00:54:34.000 Orthodox Jews.
00:54:36.000 What?!
00:54:37.000 The number one threat to Israel were right-wing extremist Jews.
00:54:44.000 When you say, what?
00:54:45.000 Who killed Yitzhak Rabin?
00:54:47.000 I don't know.
00:54:48.000 A right-wing extremist Jew.
00:54:50.000 Assassinated the Prime Minister of Israel.
00:54:53.000 And they had opened up this Aliyah and allowed all these Russian and Ukrainian Jews to come into Israel, which radically transformed the politics of Israel, shifting it from in the middle, where people were actually talking about the potential of peace with the Palestinians, and moved it to the right.
00:55:10.000 And so the Israeli Security Service is looking to this saying, we're our own worst enemy.
00:55:15.000 We're the biggest threat to Israel.
00:55:17.000 We are Israelis.
00:55:18.000 That was the number one threat.
00:55:19.000 Iran was number two, and Iraq had dropped to number six.
00:55:24.000 Egypt was probably on that list?
00:55:26.000 Egypt was probably even lower than that.
00:55:28.000 Wow.
00:55:29.000 Yo, what the hell?
00:55:31.000 I did not...
00:55:32.000 You would not think that.
00:55:33.000 Would these Orthodox...
00:55:36.000 Jewish people, were they Zionists?
00:55:39.000 No, that's the problem.
00:55:41.000 There's two kinds.
00:55:43.000 The real Orthodox actually don't believe in Israel.
00:55:46.000 Okay.
00:55:46.000 Because they say that there can't be an Israel until Messiah has come back and the temple has been rebuilt.
00:55:52.000 And so they say that this is sort of, you know, it's against God's teaching to call it the state of Israel because where's the Messiah?
00:56:01.000 Where's the temple?
00:56:02.000 You're getting ahead of yourselves.
00:56:03.000 But the Israelis that they were worried about, the biggest threat, Are the really right-wing conservative people that are the ultra-Zionists who believe in kicking the Palestinians out, don't respect them as human beings.
00:56:14.000 Pretty much what the Israeli government is today was considered to be the greatest threat to Israel back in 1998.
00:56:21.000 Wow.
00:56:22.000 Holy.
00:56:23.000 That's a big difference.
00:56:25.000 I don't even know.
00:56:26.000 Learn something new every day, man.
00:56:27.000 This is crazy.
00:56:29.000 Guys, like the goddamn video.
00:56:31.000 I'll read these chats real quick, and then we will go ahead and transition over to Ukraine and Russia.
00:56:37.000 Like the video if you guys are tuning in on this special Thursday episode.
00:56:40.000 How can I make money off war short and long term?
00:56:42.000 We'll talk about that.
00:56:43.000 Don't worry.
00:56:44.000 Especially with the Russian-Ukraine war.
00:56:46.000 Any updates on Gonzalo Lira's arrest?
00:56:47.000 All we heard from the State Department so far has been crickets.
00:56:51.000 Scott, I'll leave it to you if you want to comment on that or not.
00:56:53.000 It's up to you if you've heard anything.
00:56:55.000 I know he's been arrested.
00:56:56.000 I hope he's okay, too.
00:56:57.000 I wish nothing but good things for Gonzalo Lira, but I don't know anything about his status.
00:57:01.000 Yeah.
00:57:02.000 As you guys know, he got picked up by, what was it, SBU? SBU. Which is, if I'm going to, it's probably, it's the Ukraine's version of the FBI, I would say.
00:57:09.000 Combination FBI, CIA, yeah.
00:57:11.000 But let's say it's, he did get like, you know, what would happen at that point?
00:57:18.000 If he's dead?
00:57:19.000 Yeah.
00:57:20.000 He's dead.
00:57:21.000 You think they'd kill an American though?
00:57:23.000 Yeah, would they kill an American?
00:57:23.000 That wouldn't be a good look for them.
00:57:25.000 Well, no, it wouldn't be, but at this point in time, okay, let me, let's just put this in perspective for a second.
00:57:30.000 Go ahead, please.
00:57:32.000 I'm on a death list in Ukraine.
00:57:34.000 No, I believe it.
00:57:35.000 No, no, I am.
00:57:36.000 It's called the Myrtvors list.
00:57:38.000 It's a death list.
00:57:39.000 It's put together by the Ukrainian Intelligence Services, and it's paid for by the U.S. taxpayer.
00:57:46.000 Okay, I can see that.
00:57:48.000 It's coordinated with the CIA and the State Department.
00:57:52.000 I'm not the only one on that list.
00:57:54.000 There's many Americans.
00:57:55.000 Tulsi Gabbard's on that list.
00:57:57.000 Tucker Carlson's on that list.
00:57:59.000 What?
00:58:00.000 Rand Paul's on that list.
00:58:01.000 Shall I continue?
00:58:03.000 All these Americans are on that list, and the U.S. government's not saying anything.
00:58:08.000 So now come back to your question.
00:58:09.000 What's the U.S. government going to do if Gonzalo Lear gets topped?
00:58:12.000 Not a damn thing.
00:58:13.000 Damn.
00:58:14.000 I would think that would be a bad look because we give them so much aid, but killing an American citizen, like...
00:58:18.000 But apparently if you articulate against American policy in Ukraine, you're not an American citizen anymore.
00:58:25.000 At least you're not a good American citizen.
00:58:27.000 And if you're a bad American...
00:58:29.000 Is Trump on that list?
00:58:30.000 No.
00:58:32.000 Wrong.
00:58:33.000 He looks crazy.
00:58:34.000 Because Trump is anti-war with Ukraine, too.
00:58:36.000 Yeah, but even as much as people hate Donald Trump, do you remember what happened when there was an allegation of an assassination attempt against George W. Bush?
00:58:45.000 Yeah.
00:58:46.000 Bill Clinton fired a cruise missile?
00:58:47.000 Yeah.
00:58:49.000 No matter what you think about Donald Trump, he's a former American president, and if somebody puts him on an assassination list, Joe Biden has to take action.
00:58:59.000 So, yeah, nobody will put him on a set.
00:59:01.000 There you go.
00:59:02.000 All right.
00:59:02.000 Okay.
00:59:04.000 Wow.
00:59:04.000 Can you go over how the West has wronged alleged coup that happened with Yevgeny Prigozian Wagner and how strong Putin really is?
00:59:14.000 We'll talk about that when we talk about Russia-Ukraine.
00:59:16.000 Don't worry.
00:59:17.000 Have a great night, sirs.
00:59:17.000 Keep up the great work.
00:59:18.000 Big Boston CEO Network.
00:59:19.000 Thank you, Cody.
00:59:21.000 I don't play games.
00:59:22.000 Martin, when is the next call in?
00:59:23.000 I was in my truck last time.
00:59:25.000 I'm going to destroy you in the debate.
00:59:26.000 No fresh input, just intelligent people talking.
00:59:31.000 Whatever.
00:59:33.000 Okay.
00:59:34.000 You, Scott, are redacted all the time.
00:59:36.000 Yeah.
00:59:37.000 Yeah.
00:59:37.000 I saw him on – first, I found him through Gonzalo Lero's channel, and then I saw you on Redacted.
00:59:44.000 You did a great talk on the situation with NATO and the United States, which we're going to get into here, but that Iraq talk was awesome.
00:59:52.000 Shout out to the whole team and tonight's guests, Matt Up, Flame, Dem, and Shane Dem.
00:59:57.000 Thank you.
00:59:57.000 Cruxy goes, shout out, Ritter.
00:59:59.000 Another great geopolitics, foreign policy, Scott, is Scott Horton.
01:00:02.000 Mr.
01:00:02.000 Ritter, how serious are China's skimming missiles slash Russia's new-gen nuclear weapons?
01:00:07.000 Are we going to cover that in the Russia-Ukraine thing, or do you want to answer that one off here?
01:00:10.000 I'll answer this one now.
01:00:11.000 How serious are China's sea skimming missiles?
01:00:17.000 Let me just put it this way.
01:00:18.000 The Chinese are extraordinarily technologically advanced.
01:00:21.000 The United States has been threatening to go to war with China over Taiwan and over the South China Sea for a long time now.
01:00:28.000 The Chinese are a mature nation, which means that when you threaten them with war, they prepare for war.
01:00:33.000 We're good to go.
01:00:48.000 Think again.
01:00:49.000 Russia's new generation nuclear weapons are game changers.
01:00:53.000 They have more nukes than us, don't they?
01:00:54.000 Well, they have more tactical nuclear weapons than us.
01:00:59.000 The Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, which is getting ready to expire, limits our delivery systems to 1,550 for each side.
01:01:08.000 So we have parity.
01:01:09.000 But they have better weapons.
01:01:10.000 They built something called the Sarmat Treaty.
01:01:12.000 Which is a very heavy intercontinental ballistic missile.
01:01:17.000 And the thing about the Sarmat is most intercontinental ballistic missiles Or I should say all ground-based are launched and they go what they call the polar route.
01:01:26.000 So they'll fly over the North Pole to get to the North American landmass because that's the shortest route.
01:01:36.000 So we have all of our radars and early warning systems built up layered to come in.
01:01:41.000 Our missile defense is designed to intercept and all that.
01:01:43.000 The Sarmat takes off and goes over the South Pole.
01:01:47.000 Oh, shit.
01:01:47.000 And we ain't got anything there.
01:01:49.000 So the SARMAR comes in.
01:01:50.000 There's nothing going to stop it.
01:01:51.000 It's going to put 36 warheads on our cities, wipe out our country.
01:01:56.000 And then they have something called the avant-garde, which is a hypersonic maneuvering warhead.
01:02:00.000 So even when you release a normal warhead, it goes on somewhat of a ballistic trajectory, and you can try and get a solution to shoot it down with anti-ballistic missiles.
01:02:08.000 The avant-garde accelerates maneuvers.
01:02:11.000 You can't shoot it down.
01:02:12.000 It's precision.
01:02:13.000 It hits.
01:02:14.000 You can't stop it.
01:02:15.000 So we've spent all this money on ballistic missile defense.
01:02:18.000 It don't work.
01:02:19.000 It never will work.
01:02:20.000 The Russians have just trumped us on that.
01:02:24.000 So anybody who thinks, and this is the thing about Russian nuclear doctrine, you have a lot of people right now saying, well, we can have a limited nuclear war.
01:02:31.000 Let's just nuke one place and show the Russians we're serious.
01:02:34.000 What they have to understand is that the Russian nuclear doctrine is if you use one nuclear weapon against us, we fire all of ours instantly.
01:02:40.000 And it's the end of the world.
01:02:41.000 You said 36?
01:02:42.000 That's just for one missile.
01:02:44.000 They have dozens of them.
01:02:46.000 Wow.
01:02:47.000 And I would assume every single major U.S. city is on that list, probably.
01:02:51.000 New York, Miami, Chicago, Los Angeles.
01:02:54.000 Here's the thing about nuclear targeting.
01:02:56.000 You only need 400 weapons to destroy the world.
01:03:00.000 We've known that for some time now.
01:03:03.000 400 weapons will destroy every target worthwhile in the world.
01:03:08.000 They got 1,550, which means when they hit Miami, they're coming in with five warheads.
01:03:14.000 They're going to get a spread load on it just to make sure it's all gone.
01:03:17.000 And it won't be all gone.
01:03:19.000 Chris.
01:03:21.000 Wow.
01:03:22.000 I ain't going to heaven, man.
01:03:23.000 Nigga, you're going to hell.
01:03:25.000 Yeah, especially with that sound effect usage.
01:03:28.000 Stupid.
01:03:29.000 Damn.
01:03:30.000 Damn.
01:03:31.000 Yeah, so nuclear war is not to be played with it.
01:03:33.000 This is the other thing I try to tell people is the last remaining nuclear arms reduction treaty.
01:03:37.000 Again, I just want to remind people, I was the first United States inspector on the ground in the Soviet Union for the first treaty that got rid of nuclear weapons, that began the process of eliminating them.
01:03:50.000 I always tell people, and I say it sort of tongue-in-cheek, but I really mean it, when you meet me, shake my hand and buy me a beer.
01:03:56.000 And if you meet any inspector from the INF Treaty, shake their hand and buy them a beard.
01:04:00.000 And they'll say, why?
01:04:00.000 Because if it weren't for us, you'd be dead today.
01:04:02.000 And that's the God's honest truth.
01:04:03.000 We saved the world because the weapons we destroyed were so destabilizing that had we not destroyed them, there would have been a mistake.
01:04:11.000 They would have been fired and the world would have ended.
01:04:11.000 There would have been an error.
01:04:13.000 So we got rid of these weapons.
01:04:15.000 We saved the world.
01:04:16.000 And we began a process of nuclear arms reduction.
01:04:19.000 That process is over right now.
01:04:22.000 Wow.
01:04:42.000 And the Russians are saying, yeah, but we have nuclear weapons that say you're not going to achieve that because, as Vladimir Putin has said, a world without Russia isn't a world worth living in.
01:04:53.000 So if you want to destroy Russia, Russia is going to destroy the world.
01:04:56.000 And he has the weapons.
01:04:57.000 And so what he's also said is, since you want to destroy us and these weapons guarantee our survival, why would we continue a treaty with you where these weapons are being controlled and inspected and looked at?
01:05:08.000 So the Russians said, screw you, we're done.
01:05:11.000 There's no arms control treaty today.
01:05:12.000 There's one on paper.
01:05:13.000 It expires in 2026.
01:05:15.000 And when that ends, the arms race is on.
01:05:18.000 And now we're going to go back in time to the same.
01:05:20.000 We are getting ready to put the weapons that I destroyed back in place.
01:05:24.000 Damn.
01:05:25.000 And I already told you if those weapons are in place, we're all going to die.
01:05:28.000 This is the God's honest truth.
01:05:30.000 People need to get scared about this stuff.
01:05:32.000 We are going backwards in time, putting in place very dangerous weapon systems, and we're doing it in an environment where we and the Russians aren't getting along.
01:05:42.000 The likelihood of a nuclear war, a world-ending nuclear war, is quite high.
01:05:47.000 Wow.
01:05:48.000 And this is coming from somebody that actually inspected these weapons and was intimately involved in the process of de-arming the countries that had the most weapons.
01:05:57.000 This is fucking crazy, bro.
01:05:58.000 Wow.
01:06:00.000 Almost like out of a sci-fi movie.
01:06:00.000 Alright!
01:06:02.000 Yo, like, bro, what the hell?
01:06:04.000 Yo, I like the video, guys.
01:06:06.000 So, if we all die, at least we'll get the links up.
01:06:09.000 Damn.
01:06:10.000 Ask him if he had been to them boys' island.
01:06:13.000 Yeah, he definitely has.
01:06:15.000 He's alive.
01:06:16.000 Yeah.
01:06:17.000 There was no weapon, sir, real reason, oil slash dollar.
01:06:20.000 We talked about that.
01:06:21.000 We got here, fresh dog.
01:06:23.000 What I'm saying, this guy, bro.
01:06:25.000 I mean, Dania, Scott Ritter's experience, backed opinions are respectfully valued.
01:06:29.000 Question to Scott.
01:06:30.000 Do you think Wagner and Belarus is a good move for Russia?
01:06:33.000 Shout out to FNF for this.
01:06:34.000 Fire.
01:06:35.000 Well, I think, are we going to talk about this, or do you want me to answer that?
01:06:37.000 Oh, we're going to cover it in the Russia-Ukraine thing, right?
01:06:39.000 Okay, so that's fine.
01:06:40.000 If we're going to cover it, then I'll skip it for now.
01:06:42.000 Army vet, C6 quadriplegic, injured in Afghanistan in 2010.
01:06:46.000 I was 20 years old.
01:06:47.000 I joined the military right after high school because I believed the lies.
01:06:50.000 F the government.
01:06:51.000 We lost good people out there for no reason.
01:06:53.000 Thank you for your service, and I'm really sorry that that happened to you, bro.
01:06:53.000 Amen.
01:06:55.000 Damn, man.
01:06:56.000 The name of the fake testimony about throwing babies out of incubators is the Naira testimony.
01:07:04.000 Look it up if you doubt them.
01:07:05.000 There you go, man.
01:07:06.000 All this stuff can be looked up.
01:07:07.000 Please talk about Israel and the double standard.
01:07:09.000 We talked about that a little bit, but we'll talk about it a little bit more.
01:07:12.000 Maybe on Rumble.
01:07:13.000 I don't want to leave the TV screen.
01:07:14.000 I told you how this is going to be a great talk.
01:07:17.000 Maverick, 10 bucks.
01:07:18.000 Appreciate that.
01:07:19.000 And then, guys, from this point forward, we're going to go 15 up just so that we can make sure that we can, you know, get through because we got a lot to talk about.
01:07:25.000 Rob Quimby, we the people need to overthrow the government.
01:07:28.000 Eh, I don't know about that.
01:07:30.000 All Scott's been right so far.
01:07:32.000 History hurts.
01:07:33.000 Absolutely.
01:07:34.000 Peter Griffin's spitting.
01:07:35.000 This guy, bro.
01:07:36.000 The what, family guy?
01:07:37.000 Do you watch Family Guy, the cartoon?
01:07:37.000 Say again?
01:07:39.000 I'm aware of it, but I don't watch that much TV anymore.
01:07:41.000 You look like Peter Griffin.
01:07:43.000 Okay.
01:07:43.000 Yeah.
01:07:44.000 Does the U.S. really want Palestine to exist?
01:07:48.000 We could talk about that maybe on Rumble.
01:07:50.000 Jackhammer, appreciate that, 10 bucks.
01:07:51.000 And then we got 20 bucks from Hernandez Professional County.
01:07:53.000 He goes, we need to come together no matter our color, religion.
01:07:55.000 If not, we'll end up like every communist country.
01:07:58.000 I come from one, and I will not give up my rights.
01:08:00.000 We need to hold the politicians accountable like we do celebrities.
01:08:03.000 Yeah?
01:08:03.000 I mean, it is what it is.
01:08:05.000 Big Mo, how do we spend billions a year in the military, but countries that spend a fraction of that have better weapons?
01:08:10.000 Do you think there are secret weapons that USA has?
01:08:12.000 We'll talk about that as well when we talk about the conflict.
01:08:16.000 Okay, get orders to the Jimmy Carter A. Okay, and then this last one.
01:08:20.000 Ritter, Western civilization in Russia and China are experiencing considerably low birth rates.
01:08:20.000 Cool.
01:08:20.000 Mr.
01:08:24.000 How do you think they will play in geopolitics, and how does the U.S. solve this?
01:08:27.000 Big Ops FNF. Do you think we'll answer that during our discussion?
01:08:30.000 I can answer that now.
01:08:31.000 Okay, please.
01:08:36.000 Russia had some birth issues because of the 1990s.
01:08:39.000 I think a lot of Americans don't understand what we did in Russia.
01:08:42.000 When the Soviet Union collapsed, we, instead of treating the Soviet Union as a friend that needed help, we treated them as a defeated enemy, and we put our foot on their throat.
01:08:53.000 We made a decision that we were going to destroy them economically, exploit them politically, because we never wanted them to ever rise up again to challenge us the same way that the Soviet Union did.
01:09:03.000 Millions of Russians died.
01:09:05.000 Millions of Russians died in that decade.
01:09:06.000 I just came back from a trip to Russia.
01:09:08.000 I spent 26 days in Russia in May, traveling the entire country, talking to people, meeting people.
01:09:13.000 Did they let you in?
01:09:14.000 Oh, yeah.
01:09:14.000 Oh, shit.
01:09:15.000 I thought they weren't letting Americans in right now.
01:09:17.000 They'll let Americans in who are willing to listen.
01:09:19.000 Okay.
01:09:21.000 And we had frank discussions.
01:09:23.000 This isn't about going over there and some sort of propaganda tour.
01:09:26.000 This was the real deal.
01:09:28.000 But the...
01:09:28.000 Yeah.
01:09:30.000 They opened up.
01:09:32.000 The guy showed me a photograph of him and his seven childhood friends, and he went down, each one.
01:09:37.000 He said he committed suicide, he committed suicide, he committed suicide, he's in jail for murder, he is a drug addict who's, I think he's dead, I don't know where they went.
01:09:46.000 Because the 1990s...
01:09:46.000 Why?
01:09:48.000 Oh, okay, yeah, we'll kill Twitch and Twitter.
01:09:50.000 Guys, come on over to YouTube and rumble on Fresh Fit.
01:09:52.000 Sorry, Scott.
01:09:53.000 We're just killing the other streams, because we get real now.
01:09:56.000 Okay, but so...
01:09:59.000 And all of this, just an example of how this happened.
01:10:02.000 In Crimea, during the Soviet Union, they were going to build a nuclear power plant.
01:10:07.000 And so they had started construction on it, and then they recruited the people that were going to run it.
01:10:12.000 Nuclear scientists, high-value people, good educations and everything.
01:10:18.000 And so they moved their families into this city that they built for them.
01:10:23.000 And then the Soviet Union collapses, and Ukraine says, we're not going to build, we're not going to finish the nuclear power plant.
01:10:29.000 So you have all these guys with their families with no job.
01:10:33.000 And one by one, they started jumping out of buildings.
01:10:35.000 They turned on the gas and killed their family because they had no employment, life was horrible, etc.
01:10:40.000 That happened throughout the Soviet Union, or throughout the former Soviet Union through Russia.
01:10:44.000 Putin remembers that very vividly.
01:10:44.000 People don't understand that.
01:10:46.000 Well, this is why when Americans are like, you don't understand.
01:10:49.000 Vladimir Putin saved Russia.
01:10:51.000 In 1999, Russia was getting ready to go down the toilet boil of life because that's what we wanted.
01:10:55.000 We wanted Russia to collapse.
01:10:56.000 We wanted Russia to break up.
01:10:57.000 And Putin said no.
01:10:59.000 And he rebuilt Russia.
01:11:01.000 So whatever you think about the guy, understand this.
01:11:04.000 From the perspective of the average Russian in the street, he saved them.
01:11:08.000 He gave them pride.
01:11:09.000 They're not jumping out of windows anymore.
01:11:11.000 They're living.
01:11:12.000 I just came from Russia.
01:11:15.000 Their economy today, despite the fact that we've been sanctioning them, is the strongest economy in the history of Russia.
01:11:21.000 That's facts.
01:11:22.000 It's never been stronger than it is today.
01:11:24.000 The ruble has been going up in this.
01:11:26.000 They just had the St.
01:11:28.000 Petersburg International Economic Forum.
01:11:30.000 Hundreds of billions of dollars of international investment contracts were signed.
01:11:35.000 Because the world doesn't care about American sanctions.
01:11:37.000 The world is investing in Russia because Russia is a growth industry.
01:11:42.000 I mean, it's under sanctions, so you can't do it.
01:11:44.000 But if sanctions ever get lifted, I'd recommend people call up the economic developers in the city of Novosibirsk, the fastest growing economy in Russia today.
01:11:55.000 You will make some money in Novosibirsk if sanctions are lifted.
01:11:59.000 Because that's what's happening.
01:12:01.000 You know, Joe Biden talks about build back better.
01:12:03.000 Yeah, the Build Back Better plan.
01:12:05.000 Well, Russia has a real Build Back Better plan.
01:12:08.000 Every city I went to has construction going on non-stop.
01:12:11.000 Their city planners have money pouring in.
01:12:14.000 They're looking for projects.
01:12:15.000 Cranes in the air everywhere?
01:12:16.000 Everywhere.
01:12:16.000 Everywhere.
01:12:17.000 Yeah.
01:12:17.000 Wow.
01:12:18.000 That's wild.
01:12:19.000 So, guys, what we're going to do is, from this point forward, all the chats will be shown on screen, but I'm going to...
01:12:25.000 Oh, these came in from before?
01:12:26.000 All right, I'll read these chats that came in, but from this point forward, guys, 50 and up.
01:12:26.000 Yep.
01:12:29.000 Imagine being on your yacht in Miami, partying with your 304s, and then, boom, out of nowhere, you're vaporizing Miami with your 304s popping that ass.
01:12:35.000 No more silicone, no more Botox, LOL. Chris, what are you putting on me, bro?
01:12:39.000 What's a 304, just for me?
01:12:40.000 Uh-oh.
01:12:41.000 Uh-oh.
01:12:42.000 You know, a calculator.
01:12:44.000 Put it backwards.
01:12:45.000 Or even on Beeper.
01:12:46.000 Yeah.
01:12:46.000 That too.
01:12:48.000 Noobmaster69.
01:12:49.000 Talk about Serbia, Kosovo.
01:12:50.000 Same story.
01:12:51.000 Okay.
01:12:52.000 Chris is above 2024.
01:12:54.000 You are absolutely right about that one.
01:12:55.000 Listen to Jeffrey Sachs about Help for Russia.
01:12:58.000 Cool.
01:12:59.000 Yep.
01:12:59.000 And we caught up?
01:13:00.000 All right.
01:13:00.000 I'll just say this about Sachs, though.
01:13:00.000 Cool.
01:13:02.000 Today he's popular.
01:13:04.000 The Russians hate him.
01:13:05.000 Because Sachs in the 1990s went in and he was part of the problem.
01:13:08.000 He was part of the team that was creating the system that destroyed the...
01:13:12.000 Wow.
01:13:35.000 I guess what we can say is, so now, guys, we're going to go ahead and transition over to the Russia-Ukraine conflict.
01:13:40.000 We covered Iraq extensively.
01:13:41.000 Thank you for that, Scott.
01:13:42.000 That was a gem that I didn't even see coming.
01:13:44.000 How did we get here?
01:13:47.000 What's the history behind us even being involved in this?
01:13:51.000 Why did Russia feel the need to invade Ukraine?
01:13:54.000 How did we get here?
01:13:55.000 Well, I mean, okay.
01:13:57.000 We already started it, believe it or not, when we talked about the end of the Soviet Union in the decade of the 1990s.
01:14:03.000 The job of the United States was not to help Russia get back on its feet.
01:14:08.000 The job was to keep Russia down and to break Russia up.
01:14:14.000 And Boris Yeltsin was the first president of Russia, and we pretty much owned him.
01:14:20.000 I mean, the National Archives have published the phone calls between Bill Clinton and Boris Yeltsin.
01:14:25.000 You can go on and read the transcripts.
01:14:27.000 The Russians are saying, why are you guys releasing this?
01:14:30.000 We always viewed presidential communications to be confidential.
01:14:33.000 But they're releasing it.
01:14:34.000 It's humiliating for Boris Yeltsin, how he's begging Bill Clinton not to do things, and Bill Clinton's just ignoring him, laughing him off.
01:14:41.000 Near the end of it, When they list the names of people listening in, there's one name that appears now, Vladimir Putin.
01:14:49.000 Putin's listening to this, watching his president be debased.
01:14:52.000 He was KGB back in the day.
01:14:53.000 Well, he was KGB early on in the 80s.
01:14:55.000 When he was in those conversations, actually, he was either the head of the FSB, the follow-on to the KGB, or the prime minister.
01:15:04.000 But he's listening, and he's saying never again.
01:15:07.000 So when Boris Yeltsin picked him to be president, You know, when Putin took over, he knew who the enemy was.
01:15:14.000 The enemy was the United States.
01:15:16.000 He knew what the problem was.
01:15:18.000 The United States had built this entire...
01:15:21.000 I'll give you an example of what I'm talking about.
01:15:24.000 I was a Russian history major.
01:15:26.000 I wrote a thesis on Russia.
01:15:28.000 I studied Russia, spoke the language, and I worked in Russia for two years as a weapons inspector.
01:15:34.000 And...
01:15:36.000 I was considered a big deal in the Russian community.
01:15:40.000 I got two classified accommodations from the director of the CIA for my work in Russia.
01:15:44.000 And so in 1993, I was recruited by the CIA to go to work as an analyst there.
01:15:50.000 And I went and did the interview.
01:15:51.000 And the head of the, what they call the, it used to be Sova, Soviet Area Analysis, but now it was Oreo, Office of Russia and East European Studies or something of this nature.
01:16:01.000 We interviewed, we talked, and he said, well, you're clearly knowledgeable, but we don't want you.
01:16:06.000 And I said, why?
01:16:07.000 And he said, because you're old.
01:16:09.000 You think old.
01:16:10.000 We need people who think new.
01:16:12.000 You're tainted by the Soviet experience.
01:16:14.000 You have this warmth in your heart for the Russian people.
01:16:18.000 We want people who aren't thinking like you, looking at exploiting Russia, dominating Russia.
01:16:25.000 And that's just a sad state of affairs.
01:16:28.000 And so the people that they...
01:16:30.000 The people that they brought in aren't people who are trying to learn about Russia, know Russia, understand Russia.
01:16:38.000 They're bringing in people to talk about exploiting Russia, etc.
01:16:41.000 So that's the mindset of the United States.
01:16:43.000 And Vladimir Putin comes in and says, I'm not playing that game anymore.
01:16:46.000 And so our policy from that point on became to kick Putin out of power and to keep Russia going down.
01:16:53.000 So that's what's going on.
01:16:54.000 That's been going on since day one, 2000.
01:16:57.000 Expanding NATO is key to that.
01:16:59.000 Taking Ukraine out of the Russian sphere of influence is deemed to be essential.
01:17:05.000 In 2008, There was a...
01:17:09.000 Real quick, tell the people.
01:17:11.000 Actually, no, we'll do, just so you guys know, Fresh has to run.
01:17:14.000 So what we'll do is we'll do a quick little musical chairs.
01:17:16.000 You can take a seat right here.
01:17:16.000 Do you mind, Scott?
01:17:17.000 Okay.
01:17:18.000 Yeah, quick little switch over, guys.
01:17:22.000 While we do that.
01:17:24.000 And then we're going to continue on with this.
01:17:26.000 We do it live.
01:17:27.000 Yeah, yeah, we do it live.
01:17:29.000 Do you have the music?
01:17:30.000 Yeah, yeah, I switched it up.
01:17:48.000 Sorry about that.
01:17:53.000 All right, cool.
01:17:54.000 So before we get into that, and make sure his sound levels are good and everything else like that.
01:18:00.000 Before we get into that, could you tell the people what NATO is specifically and how it came about?
01:18:05.000 NATO is the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
01:18:05.000 Sure.
01:18:08.000 It's an alliance of nations in the North Atlantic.
01:18:13.000 I mean, it's European nations, the United States, Canada.
01:18:16.000 That came together in the 1940s at the end of the Second World War to prevent the expansion of Soviet power into Europe.
01:18:29.000 There was a fear that at the end of the war that the Soviet Union would seek to take advantage of the We had the Marshall Plan in place.
01:18:45.000 We were an ally with Russia and World War II, weren't we?
01:18:48.000 To fight off the Nazis.
01:18:51.000 But here's the kicker here.
01:18:51.000 Correct.
01:18:55.000 The war ends and We have a defense industry that had been built up.
01:19:02.000 Remember, before the war, we had a Great Depression.
01:19:04.000 Our economy sort of was...
01:19:06.000 In the 20s.
01:19:07.000 Not due in the 30s.
01:19:08.000 Sorry.
01:19:08.000 Yeah, 30s.
01:19:09.000 Yes.
01:19:09.000 You know, and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, you know, was trying to get us out of the Depression when World War II comes along.
01:19:15.000 And so we build up our economy.
01:19:18.000 We sort of recover from the war.
01:19:20.000 But now the war is over.
01:19:23.000 Germany got out the depression.
01:19:25.000 But if we go back to where we were, we'd have these economic problems.
01:19:31.000 Plus, as part of the war, we took over the world economy.
01:19:35.000 People don't understand.
01:19:36.000 We didn't just go to help England.
01:19:38.000 We destroyed England.
01:19:40.000 We took away all their gold.
01:19:42.000 We took away the French gold.
01:19:43.000 We made the United States dollar the dominant currency in the world, Bretton Woods, in 1944.
01:19:50.000 And so when the war ends, there's people who are afraid about America going back to the isolationism that existed before the war.
01:19:58.000 America has to stay involved.
01:20:00.000 In order to stay involved, we have to have a threat.
01:20:04.000 We're good to go.
01:20:25.000 World War II. World War II. Their economy was destroyed.
01:20:29.000 They were in the process of rebuilding.
01:20:31.000 The last thing they want is another war.
01:20:33.000 Yeah.
01:20:34.000 But we created NATO. The first Secretary General of NATO, Lord Hastings, a Brit, said about NATO, he said, To keep the Germans down, that is to keep them suppressed, to keep the Russians out of Europe,
01:20:52.000 and keep the Americans in.
01:20:54.000 Meaning that if it weren't for NATO, America could go back to being sort of an isolationist country.
01:20:58.000 Germany could rise up again, and then the Russians might feel a need to come in.
01:21:02.000 So NATO was designed to do...
01:21:05.000 So that's why NATO was created.
01:21:05.000 All of that.
01:21:09.000 NATO expanded.
01:21:10.000 We were fighting.
01:21:11.000 We were worried about communism expanding, so we let the Greeks in.
01:21:14.000 We let the Turks in.
01:21:15.000 We expanded.
01:21:17.000 But its focus, again, was primarily on containing Soviet power.
01:21:22.000 But when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1992, or late 1991, early 1992, the What was the purpose of NATO at that point?
01:21:35.000 And that was one of the big questions.
01:21:37.000 When the Berlin Wall came down, one of the key issues that grasped Europe throughout the entire Cold War period was the fate of Germany.
01:21:47.000 What would happen to Germany?
01:21:49.000 It would have been split, East and West Germany, the Soviets occupying East Germany, the Allies occupying West Germany.
01:21:55.000 What was the future of Germany?
01:21:56.000 If Germany came together, there was always this fear that this big Germany could become Bad Germany again.
01:22:03.000 Yeah.
01:22:23.000 If we withdraw, are you going to come in and it's going to be unacceptable if you put NATO into East Germany?
01:22:29.000 And he was told by all the NATO leaders, NATO will not expand one inch eastward.
01:22:37.000 You withdraw your troops.
01:22:38.000 There were 500,000 or 400,000 Soviet troops in East Germany.
01:22:41.000 Withdraw your troops and NATO won't expand.
01:22:44.000 Because after World War II, we basically broke Germany in three parts, if I'm not mistaken.
01:22:48.000 Well, Berlin was in four parts.
01:22:51.000 Germany was in four.
01:22:53.000 Yeah.
01:22:54.000 Americans took a piece.
01:22:55.000 The British took a piece.
01:22:56.000 The Russians took a piece.
01:22:57.000 And the French took a piece.
01:22:59.000 And then the...
01:23:00.000 The three pieces, the French, the British, the American piece, sort of were consolidated into West Germany.
01:23:06.000 And then the Soviets had East Germany.
01:23:08.000 So now the Soviets are going to withdraw, and we promised we wouldn't move NATO forces one inch eastward.
01:23:15.000 James Baker, who made that promise, came back and briefed...
01:23:19.000 Papa Bush, George Herbert Walker Bush's national security team, they said, no, not so fast.
01:23:25.000 We're going to want to expand NATO because we've got to keep the Russians down.
01:23:29.000 So we lied to the Soviets.
01:23:31.000 They withdrew.
01:23:33.000 And then we've been expanding ever since.
01:23:35.000 So in 2008, An ambassador named William Burns.
01:23:40.000 Today, you might know him as the CIA director.
01:23:42.000 But in 2008, he was the U.S. ambassador to Russia.
01:23:46.000 He wrote a memorandum called Net Means Net, No Means No.
01:23:49.000 And what he said is, if we invite Ukraine to join NATO, the Russians have said that's a red line.
01:23:56.000 And it will inevitably lead to a Russian invasion of Ukraine.
01:24:00.000 And when did they predict this?
01:24:02.000 This was back in 2008.
01:24:03.000 2008.
01:24:04.000 2008.
01:24:05.000 And this was in April.
01:24:06.000 So he said, don't.
01:24:08.000 In November 2008, we invite Ukraine to join NATO. So please understand what I'm saying.
01:24:14.000 We haven't invited them since back then?
01:24:16.000 We invited them in November of 2008.
01:24:21.000 I thought they had been trying to join all this time and they couldn't get in because the country wasn't up to par on certain standards.
01:24:26.000 The invitation doesn't mean to join immediately.
01:24:28.000 It means we begin the process.
01:24:30.000 We begin the roadmap and all the things that happen.
01:24:35.000 But basically it says, we want you to become a member.
01:24:38.000 And the Russians are like...
01:24:40.000 What the hell?
01:24:41.000 Yeah, no.
01:24:42.000 No means no.
01:24:42.000 No.
01:24:43.000 What part of that don't you understand?
01:24:46.000 Yeah.
01:24:46.000 And then in 2014, we carry out a coup in Kiev to kick out the pro-Russian president, Viktor Yanukovych, who was constitutionally elected, and we replace him with these Ukrainian nationalists who are from a party called Svoboda Party,
01:25:03.000 the right sector.
01:25:04.000 Now, let me explain what that is.
01:25:06.000 They're a minority politically in Ukraine.
01:25:08.000 Mm-hmm.
01:25:09.000 Their roots, they worship a guy named Stepan Bandera.
01:25:13.000 Stepan Bandera was a Ukrainian nationalist from the 1930s, 1940s.
01:25:18.000 He was openly, he collaborated with Adolf Hitler.
01:25:22.000 Bandera's forces, when they went into, when Germany invaded Poland and then invaded Russia, went in and they murdered 30,000 to 40,000 Jews.
01:25:31.000 They killed 110,000 Poles.
01:25:33.000 They slaughtered 220,000 Russians because they view all of them as subhuman.
01:25:38.000 These are Ukrainian nationalists.
01:25:40.000 These are Ukrainian nationalists, and Stepan Bandera is their leader.
01:25:43.000 Okay.
01:25:44.000 He's collaborating with the Germans.
01:25:46.000 Now, as the Russians...
01:25:47.000 Was Ukraine not its own...
01:25:49.000 Well, I guess it was a part of the Soviet Union, but it was still its own nation, so to speak?
01:25:54.000 They looked at themselves as, we're not Russian, we're Ukrainian?
01:25:57.000 If you go back, I mean, this is where it gets controversial about, you know, when did Ukraine happen.
01:26:03.000 The...
01:26:04.000 The Russian perspective is that Ukraine was an artificial state created by the Soviets, created by Lenin.
01:26:12.000 And they created this artificial state.
01:26:14.000 The Ukrainians are going to say, no, our heritage goes back further than that, etc.
01:26:19.000 But here's the thing.
01:26:20.000 The Ukrainian nationalists of Stepan Bandera are people from what we call today Western Ukraine.
01:26:26.000 Okay.
01:26:28.000 Western Ukraine at one time was part of Poland.
01:26:30.000 Okay.
01:26:31.000 So actually when Stepan Bandera began his Ukrainian nationalism, it was because the part of the Western Ukraine that we call Western Ukraine today, I think it's Volhonia or something like that, was part of Poland.
01:26:44.000 Gotcha.
01:26:45.000 But he still killed his own people, essentially.
01:26:48.000 No, no.
01:26:48.000 Because the Ukrainians are different than the Poles.
01:26:50.000 Okay.
01:26:51.000 He viewed the Poles as subhuman.
01:26:53.000 Okay, as enemies.
01:26:54.000 Not just enemies.
01:26:56.000 I use subhuman for a reason.
01:26:57.000 Yeah.
01:26:58.000 Because the ultimate white supremacists are the Ukrainians.
01:27:02.000 These are the original master race.
01:27:05.000 Gotcha.
01:27:06.000 Okay.
01:27:06.000 They hate the Jews.
01:27:08.000 They hate the Poles.
01:27:08.000 Yeah.
01:27:09.000 They hate the Russians.
01:27:10.000 Yeah.
01:27:11.000 I think?
01:27:29.000 So as the Germans retreat, they have these stay-behind guys.
01:27:31.000 They're collecting intelligence.
01:27:33.000 They're blowing up bridges.
01:27:34.000 And this was an organization known as the Galen Network.
01:27:38.000 Galen was the name of the German general who commanded this intelligence apparatus.
01:27:43.000 When the war ended, the United States captured Galen.
01:27:47.000 Now, he's a Nazi responsible for the deaths of many people.
01:27:50.000 Should have been put in prison.
01:27:51.000 Should have been hung by the neck until dead.
01:27:53.000 But Galen said, but I have a network of spies.
01:27:57.000 And still operating inside the Soviet Union.
01:27:59.000 And we went, oh, sit down at the table.
01:28:02.000 You're our friend now.
01:28:03.000 And we brought him in, and we controlled him, and we controlled them.
01:28:06.000 And we used them from the very beginning to attack the Russians, to destabilize the Russians, etc.
01:28:12.000 So we used these Banderist rebels, these insurgents, to attack the Soviets.
01:28:17.000 And the CIA fought a covert war from 1945 until 1953, 50.
01:28:24.000 And Like I said, hundreds of thousands of Russians were killed.
01:28:31.000 48,000 Russian soldiers were killed.
01:28:33.000 It's a big war.
01:28:34.000 It's not a little war.
01:28:35.000 So this has been going on since the 50s, 40s.
01:28:38.000 40s.
01:28:38.000 But in the 50s, the Soviets finally beat them.
01:28:42.000 Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian nationalists, the Banderists.
01:28:45.000 So the audience is tracking here.
01:28:47.000 Guys, you got to stay on point and pay attention.
01:28:50.000 They flee.
01:28:51.000 They go to places like Germany, England, Canada, the United States.
01:28:56.000 I already told you that Stepan Bander is a murderer.
01:28:59.000 The CIA itself and its documents say this is one of the worst people we've ever met in our lives.
01:29:03.000 Responsible for killing Jewish people, Polish people, Russians, everybody in the name of Ukrainian nationalism.
01:29:10.000 60 miles from my town.
01:29:11.000 I live in upstate New York, outside of Albany.
01:29:14.000 60 miles from my town, where I live, is a town called Ellenville, New York.
01:29:19.000 In Ellenville, New York, there's a park called Heroes Park.
01:29:22.000 Heroes Park has five statues.
01:29:25.000 Of Ukrainian nationalists, one of which is Stepon Bandera.
01:29:28.000 Wow.
01:29:45.000 It's alive and well living in America, in Canada, everywhere.
01:29:47.000 They've been embedded in the United States since the 50s, 60s, 70s to this day.
01:29:53.000 The CIA continued to fund this operation from 1954 until 1990.
01:30:00.000 And at that point in time in 1990, they stopped funding it because the nationalists were back in power.
01:30:07.000 We put them in power in the government in 2014.
01:30:11.000 The first thing the nationalists did is they outlawed the Russian language.
01:30:15.000 They passed a law banning Russian culture.
01:30:18.000 And then when the Russians pushed back, they declared an anti-terrorism operation and they declared all the ethnic Russians to be terrorists.
01:30:26.000 And they began attacking them.
01:30:28.000 In May of 2014, there was a demonstration of pro-Russians in the city of Odessa.
01:30:35.000 The Banderists shoved 150 of them into a building, the Trade Center, Trade Union building, set it on fire and cheered as people burned to death, jumped out of the building.
01:30:44.000 Anybody who jumped out and survived, they shot on the ground.
01:30:47.000 And then they marched on the Crimea.
01:30:49.000 People are like, you keep hearing people go, the little green men, the little green men, Putin is the little green men.
01:30:54.000 You want to know why the little green men went into Crimea?
01:30:56.000 To stop the Banderas from coming in and doing the same thing to the Russians in Crimea.
01:31:00.000 So he stopped and he said, we're not playing this game.
01:31:03.000 Crimea belongs to us.
01:31:04.000 End of story.
01:31:05.000 So then they shifted up and they went to Mario pool.
01:31:07.000 You might remember that name, the fighting.
01:31:09.000 Real quick, just because this is something real quick.
01:31:13.000 Guys, I like the goddamn video.
01:31:15.000 This is something that came up a lot back in 2014, right?
01:31:18.000 Where people say, oh, Russia invaded Ukraine, blah, blah, blah.
01:31:21.000 So the real reason why they invaded is because these Ukrainian nationalists at Banderas were killing innocent Russians, ethnic Russians.
01:31:30.000 100%.
01:31:30.000 And Crimea, so that's why Russia invaded...
01:31:33.000 Well, they started in Odessa.
01:31:35.000 Now they went to Crimea.
01:31:36.000 Russia invaded Crimea to take it back and say, no, you're not going to kill Russia.
01:31:40.000 Okay, to stop them from what they did in Odessa.
01:31:41.000 But then they moved up to Mariupol.
01:31:41.000 Right.
01:31:44.000 Now, we all know Mariupol from the fighting that took place there last year.
01:31:47.000 The heavy fighting in Mariupol, Azov still, and all that.
01:31:50.000 The Azov Battalion.
01:31:52.000 Well, Mariupol, the Banderas went in there and started literally...
01:31:59.000 Raping, murdering, you know, terrorizing the ethnic Russians.
01:32:04.000 So the ethnic Russians started to organize into these militia units to defend themselves.
01:32:09.000 And then, you know, And that's how this war began.
01:32:17.000 So the Russians intervened.
01:32:18.000 People talk about Wagner.
01:32:20.000 You hear about Wagner today, Pergosian and all that.
01:32:22.000 Wagner was created in 2014 by the Russian government to provide assistance to the pro-Russian ethnic Russians that were defending themselves against the Nazis.
01:32:33.000 That's how Wagner was created.
01:32:35.000 And is that like a law or what is it specifically?
01:32:38.000 Well, the thing is, Because, well, Wagner is a Wagner group, the private military contractors, the mercenary organization.
01:32:45.000 You have Guinea-Pragosian heads, the guy who just launched the coup against...
01:32:45.000 Okay.
01:32:49.000 Putin's right-hand guy.
01:32:51.000 Yeah.
01:32:51.000 They call him the chef.
01:32:52.000 Yes.
01:32:52.000 Okay.
01:32:53.000 Okay.
01:32:53.000 That was his private army that...
01:32:54.000 Okay.
01:32:55.000 Okay.
01:32:55.000 Well, he was...
01:32:56.000 I think.
01:33:21.000 A mercenary army.
01:33:23.000 And so then the military assistance came in.
01:33:25.000 So that's how that army was created to provide assistance to fight back.
01:33:28.000 So was that army originally created to protect innocent Russians from the Nazis that lived in...
01:33:34.000 Yes.
01:33:35.000 Wow.
01:33:36.000 Now here's the thing.
01:33:36.000 They did a really good job.
01:33:38.000 And by 2014, they had the Ukrainian army surrounded and they were going to kill them all.
01:33:45.000 And that's when the Germans and the French came in and said, please, Mr.
01:33:50.000 Putin, don't kill all the Ukrainian soldiers.
01:33:52.000 Please don't do that.
01:33:52.000 Don't kill these Nazis.
01:33:54.000 Don't kill the Nazis.
01:33:55.000 Let's have a ceasefire.
01:33:57.000 We'll call it the Minsk Accords.
01:33:59.000 A ceasefire agreement.
01:34:01.000 And you'll let the Ukrainian army live, and then we will get the Ukrainian government to agree to this term where...
01:34:08.000 We'll protect the rights of the Russians.
01:34:10.000 We won't kill the Russians.
01:34:12.000 We'll do all that.
01:34:14.000 And Putin went, okay, I'll agree to that.
01:34:18.000 At this point, not to stop you, in 2014, they were getting sanctioned, weren't they?
01:34:23.000 Didn't Obama sanction them at this point?
01:34:25.000 Yeah, they sanctioned the Russians for Crimea.
01:34:27.000 Yeah, for invading into Crimea.
01:34:29.000 And they're also sanctioned for helping the ethnic Russians defend themselves against the Nazis.
01:34:32.000 Yeah, so I want y'all to know that too because that's important because I think that's a big reason why Putin, the sanctions aren't messing them up now.
01:34:41.000 They prepared themselves for the sanctions that came in 2022.
01:34:44.000 Well, let me put it this way.
01:34:46.000 If I told you That, you know, I'm coming over to your house and I'm going to kick your butt.
01:34:53.000 We're going to box.
01:34:54.000 You'd say, well, I'm going to the gym.
01:34:57.000 I'm going to get a trainer.
01:34:58.000 I'm going to practice boxing.
01:35:00.000 And I keep talking how I'm going to come over here and kick your butt.
01:35:03.000 But all I'm doing is talking.
01:35:05.000 I'm going to come over and kick your butt.
01:35:06.000 You're training.
01:35:07.000 Now I show up and knock on your door.
01:35:07.000 You're boxing.
01:35:09.000 I'm going to kick your butt.
01:35:10.000 And you kick my butt because you've been training.
01:35:12.000 You've been ready to box.
01:35:13.000 I've been running my mouth.
01:35:14.000 The United States has been going sanction, sanction, sanction, sanction.
01:35:17.000 And the Russians are like...
01:35:18.000 Okay.
01:35:19.000 Yeah.
01:35:19.000 We know it's coming.
01:35:20.000 So they pretty much created their infrastructure.
01:35:22.000 They beat us.
01:35:23.000 So I'm sorry, continue on.
01:35:24.000 So you were saying, so the Minsk agreements, I'm sorry.
01:35:28.000 So the Minsk Accords comes in.
01:35:30.000 Now here's the deal.
01:35:31.000 There was a ceasefire.
01:35:32.000 It stopped the war.
01:35:33.000 It saved the Ukrainian army.
01:35:34.000 The deal with Minsk was that Donbass would still be part of Ukraine.
01:35:39.000 You know, they tried to separate.
01:35:41.000 The ethnic Russians voted for independence in 2014 and begged the Russians to take him in.
01:35:46.000 And Putin said no.
01:35:48.000 He said, you're part of Ukraine.
01:35:50.000 We will defend your rights, but we're not going to split Ukraine up.
01:35:54.000 A lot of people don't realize that.
01:35:55.000 I didn't know that.
01:35:56.000 That Putin didn't want to split up Ukraine.
01:35:57.000 All he wanted was to protect the rights of the ethnic Ukrainians.
01:36:00.000 Why didn't he want to take them in?
01:36:02.000 Because you can't get into...
01:36:04.000 It's not taking them in.
01:36:05.000 You can't get into the business of redrawing the map of Europe.
01:36:08.000 That's a messy thing.
01:36:09.000 Once you start changing the borders, you undo the stability that World War II... We're good to go.
01:36:40.000 One of the greatest catastrophes of the last century was the collapse of the Soviet Union.
01:36:45.000 Now, the people have twisted to say the greatest calamity was the collapse.
01:36:50.000 So they're saying, see, he regrets the Soviet Union collapse, and that means he wants it to come back.
01:36:54.000 I said, wait.
01:36:55.000 There's more.
01:36:56.000 Listen to what he says.
01:36:58.000 Because overnight, tens of millions of Russians became homeless.
01:37:02.000 People who used to live in the Soviet Union overnight lived in a foreign country.
01:37:08.000 Russians were now in Ukraine.
01:37:10.000 Russians were in Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and Uzbekistan.
01:37:14.000 Russians no longer have a home.
01:37:16.000 And they were abused.
01:37:17.000 He said, I am the president of the Russian nation.
01:37:21.000 And the Russian nation is larger than the Russian Federation.
01:37:24.000 The Russian nation are the people with common language, common culture, common heritage, common religion.
01:37:30.000 He said, my job is to defend them all.
01:37:33.000 And so now we get to the Donbass.
01:37:36.000 His job is to defend them.
01:37:37.000 That doesn't mean that you're going to break up the Ukraine.
01:37:40.000 What it means is you're going to defend the Russians.
01:37:42.000 So he did.
01:37:43.000 He went...
01:37:44.000 He created Wagner.
01:37:45.000 He went to war.
01:37:46.000 They won.
01:37:47.000 Now there's a ceasefire.
01:37:49.000 All that has to happen is the Ukrainians have to sign the deal.
01:37:52.000 They wouldn't.
01:37:53.000 They kept the lane.
01:37:54.000 The Minsk agreements?
01:37:55.000 No.
01:37:55.000 Yeah.
01:37:55.000 They wouldn't sign them?
01:37:56.000 They kept the lane.
01:37:57.000 They wouldn't implement them.
01:37:58.000 What was outlined in the Minsk agreements that kept them from signing?
01:38:02.000 Well, peace.
01:38:03.000 That's the problem.
01:38:04.000 No, I'll get to it instead because this is a big deal.
01:38:07.000 Please.
01:38:08.000 What the Russians guaranteed is that they would respect the borders.
01:38:13.000 That they would withdraw, all the forces would withdraw behind the borders, that it would be demilitarized, but that the Ukrainians would have to withdraw their own troops from the Donbass and then pass laws that protected the linguistic, cultural, religious rights of the Russians living there so that they could speak Russian,
01:38:30.000 they could celebrate Russian history, they could celebrate Russian culture.
01:38:35.000 Ukrainians wouldn't change those laws.
01:38:38.000 And the reason why is this, and we now know Petro Poroshenko was the president of Ukraine at the time.
01:38:45.000 After Putin invaded Ukraine, people asked him about Minsk.
01:38:49.000 He said, the Minsk agreements, they were a sham.
01:38:52.000 We were never gonna implement them.
01:38:54.000 We were just using them to buy time so that NATO could rebuild the Ukrainian army.
01:38:59.000 Remember that Ukrainian army that Putin had surrounded?
01:39:01.000 It was gonna destroy?
01:39:02.000 And let it go?
01:39:03.000 Because he wanted peace?
01:39:05.000 Because Putin wanted peace?
01:39:06.000 Because Putin wanted peace?
01:39:08.000 Because Putin wanted peace?
01:39:10.000 All these people today, Putin started...
01:39:12.000 I'm trying to tell people right now, Putin is the only person that wanted peace.
01:39:16.000 He could have destroyed the Ukrainian army back in 2014.
01:39:20.000 He could have imposed his will on that area.
01:39:23.000 But he chose peace.
01:39:25.000 He was the only one serious about peace.
01:39:27.000 Now, Petro Poroshenko was admitting the Ukrainians were never going to sign it.
01:39:31.000 It was a sham.
01:39:31.000 But it's not just that.
01:39:32.000 The Germans and the French that went begging to Putin...
01:39:35.000 Angela Merkel has talked about it.
01:39:37.000 The hardest 48 hours of her life where she did the shuttle diplomacy, begging Putin to agree to this, to go with this.
01:39:42.000 So Putin did it.
01:39:44.000 She has said, yeah, the whole purpose of that was just to buy time so we could build up the Ukrainian army.
01:39:49.000 Francois Hollen, the French president, the same thing.
01:39:51.000 Most Americans don't realize in 2015, we opened up a U.S. training mission in Ukraine.
01:39:56.000 The job of the U.S. training mission was to train one battalion of Ukrainian forces every 55 days for the sole purpose of going eastwards to kill Russians.
01:40:04.000 That's it.
01:40:05.000 We trained them to kill Russians.
01:40:07.000 We were never interested in peace.
01:40:09.000 This is 2014.
01:40:09.000 2015.
01:40:10.000 2015.
01:40:11.000 And a battalion is roughly...
01:40:13.000 500, 600 men.
01:40:14.000 Yeah.
01:40:15.000 So we did that from 2015 to 2021, or 22.
01:40:19.000 That was our job.
01:40:21.000 Not to create peace, but to train the Ukrainian army to kill Russians in the Donbas.
01:40:28.000 Zelensky ran on a platform in 2019 to be president of Ukraine.
01:40:31.000 What tactical advantage or benefit do they derive from controlling the Donbass?
01:40:39.000 Crimea, I can see because it's right there on the water.
01:40:42.000 You have access to the sea.
01:40:44.000 But why the Donbass?
01:40:45.000 The Donbass is the heart of the Russian economy, the heart of...
01:40:49.000 Of the Soviet economy.
01:40:51.000 It's where the coal mines are.
01:40:53.000 It's where the steel mills are.
01:40:54.000 It's basically the industrial heartland of Russia.
01:40:58.000 It's a Russian territory that was given to Ukraine by Joseph Stalin so that Ukraine would have some sort of economic viability.
01:41:06.000 Because without the Donbass, Ukraine is just a bunch of farmers.
01:41:10.000 Gotcha.
01:41:10.000 The Donbass is what gives them...
01:41:12.000 So are the resources shared between Russia and Ukraine from the Donbass?
01:41:15.000 No, the Donbass, the resources belong to Ukraine.
01:41:18.000 Okay.
01:41:19.000 Well, not now.
01:41:19.000 Now they belong to Russia.
01:41:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:41:21.000 But again, Putin was willing to let Donbass...
01:41:25.000 Let them have it, but they were killing the Russians.
01:41:26.000 That's why he had to come in.
01:41:27.000 That's why he had to stop.
01:41:28.000 Okay.
01:41:28.000 So...
01:41:29.000 In 2019, Zelensky's running for president saying, I want peace.
01:41:33.000 I want to bring about peace.
01:41:34.000 I want peace with Russia.
01:41:35.000 He was elected president because the Russian population of Ukraine said, we'll vote for you because we believe that you'll bring us peace.
01:41:42.000 Let me ask you this.
01:41:45.000 Because people have criticized you and said, you're a puppet for the Russian propaganda machine.
01:41:49.000 You're just pro-Putin.
01:41:51.000 You're just saying all this stuff, blah, blah, blah.
01:41:53.000 It's a bunch of BS, blah, blah, blah.
01:41:55.000 What's your response to all the people out there that say that you're a Putin puppet?
01:41:59.000 By saying what you're saying.
01:42:00.000 By saying, like, oh, Putin wanted peace or whatever.
01:42:02.000 What's your response to that?
01:42:03.000 Because I agree with you that he wanted peace.
01:42:05.000 But I want to see, like, what's your thoughts on the people that hate and say, oh, he's just a Putin puppet.
01:42:09.000 He's just saying all this crap.
01:42:12.000 You and I had a long conversation about Iraq.
01:42:14.000 Yeah.
01:42:14.000 Am I a Saddam puppet?
01:42:16.000 No.
01:42:18.000 I think I just answered your question.
01:42:20.000 There you go.
01:42:22.000 I'll just say this.
01:42:24.000 I mean, I think the other thing, too, just using common sense, if Putin didn't want peace, he could have destroyed Ukraine in one day, guys.
01:42:30.000 That quick.
01:42:31.000 Come on, man.
01:42:32.000 For all the people out there saying he doesn't want peace, he literally could have destroyed Ukraine in one fucking day.
01:42:38.000 I'm probably one of the few people that you talked to that spent the first part of their adult life training to kill Russians.
01:42:45.000 I spent two and a half years in 29 Palms, California, 24-7, perfecting the art of killing Russians.
01:42:51.000 I went to bed every night praying for war.
01:42:54.000 I wanted to kill Russians.
01:42:55.000 So you can call me a Putin fucking puppet.
01:42:58.000 Eat shit and die.
01:42:59.000 Excuse my language, but you know what?
01:43:00.000 I have no time for people like that.
01:43:02.000 I'm a Russian expert.
01:43:04.000 Before you call me a Putin puppet, challenge me on my facts.
01:43:07.000 Challenge me on my knowledge.
01:43:09.000 Challenge me on why I take the position I do.
01:43:11.000 I don't take the position because I'm pro-Putin.
01:43:13.000 I take the position because I'm pro-fucking-peace.
01:43:16.000 If you don't understand what I have done in my life to stop war, to prevent war, You know, in the lead up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, I bent over backwards to stop a war.
01:43:28.000 A lot of people don't know that I traveled to Iraq and spoke before the Iraqi parliament.
01:43:32.000 I'm the only foreigner to ever do that.
01:43:35.000 There's a petition to the Iraqi parliament to let UN weapons inspectors back in as a precondition to stopping the war.
01:43:41.000 I came back and people said, you're a Saddam stooge and all blah blah.
01:43:45.000 Saddam, let the inspectors back in because of what I did.
01:43:51.000 And I'm a fucking Saddam stooge?
01:43:53.000 You just had a note from a guy who talked about being a paraplegic, going to Afghanistan, went to war on a bunch of lies.
01:44:00.000 I was trying to stop that from happening.
01:44:03.000 If you don't understand that, you don't understand jack shit.
01:44:06.000 I'm getting a little angry right now because I just despise the ignorance of people.
01:44:13.000 You know, you want to come at me, come at me with facts.
01:44:15.000 You call me a Putin puppet, you better know how to fucking spell Russia first, asshole.
01:44:20.000 All right?
01:44:21.000 You better understand the context of everything I'm saying.
01:44:24.000 If you're going to challenge me, challenge me on the facts.
01:44:26.000 Tell me that Zelensky, Volodymyr Zelensky, didn't hold a war council shortly after he was elected president where he said, our policy is war, war, war.
01:44:36.000 I got a fucking video that has him saying that.
01:44:39.000 And you're going to say that Putin's the warmonger?
01:44:42.000 He's the only one who wanted peace.
01:44:44.000 The Minsk Accords is something he tried to have implemented the entire time.
01:44:48.000 It's not Putin that said it's a sham.
01:44:50.000 It's not Putin.
01:44:51.000 It was Merkel, Haaland, Poroshenko.
01:44:54.000 Putin wanted it implemented, even when they pulled out of the Minsk Accords in the fall of 2021.
01:44:59.000 Putin's step wasn't to go to war.
01:45:01.000 It was to put draft treaties in place and appeal to NATO and the United States.
01:45:05.000 Please, one last negotiated chance to end this...
01:45:08.000 Let's not go to war.
01:45:10.000 Let's have a negotiation.
01:45:11.000 The United States and NATO refused to consider this.
01:45:14.000 Even when they did that, he went back to Zelensky and sent negotiating teams saying, come on, we don't want to go to war.
01:45:19.000 Let's find a solution.
01:45:20.000 Let's find a solution.
01:45:22.000 Zelensky led him on, led him on, led him on.
01:45:24.000 All the while they were taking that NATO-trained army and positioning it to invade.
01:45:29.000 They were scheduled to invade the Donbass in March.
01:45:34.000 We're good to go.
01:45:55.000 Was to get Ukrainians back to the negotiating table.
01:45:58.000 That's all Putin wanted to do.
01:46:00.000 Get them to negotiate.
01:46:02.000 And it almost worked.
01:46:03.000 They had three meetings in Gomel, Belarus in early March.
01:46:07.000 Why?
01:46:07.000 Because the Russians scared the living crap out of Zelensky with their invasion.
01:46:11.000 So they sent the team in.
01:46:12.000 They negotiated.
01:46:13.000 They had a treaty ready to sign on 1 April.
01:46:16.000 Ladies and gentlemen, just think about this for a second.
01:46:19.000 The Ukrainians initialed the treaty.
01:46:21.000 They signed the treaty.
01:46:22.000 We know now because Putin actually brought the documents up, showed it to the African peace delegation that came in and said, why aren't you negotiating with the Ukrainians?
01:46:28.000 He said, guys, we've been trying to negotiate from day one.
01:46:31.000 They aren't serious about it.
01:46:32.000 They signed this treaty.
01:46:33.000 We were ready to sign it.
01:46:35.000 The United States and Great Britain told Zelensky, don't.
01:46:39.000 Wow.
01:46:40.000 Because we want to send you billions of dollars of military aid to continue this war.
01:46:45.000 Over 350,000 Ukrainian soldiers have died.
01:46:49.000 That's what the casualties are at now, 300,000?
01:46:51.000 350,000.
01:46:52.000 350,000.
01:46:53.000 About 310,000 of them.
01:46:55.000 Where does that number come from for the people?
01:46:56.000 Because I know they're going to ask, where does that number come from?
01:46:58.000 Well, the number comes from the Ukrainians who are acknowledging the big numbers.
01:47:03.000 Okay, it comes from Ukrainians themselves.
01:47:05.000 Well, I mean, the numbers come from crunching the data.
01:47:08.000 Okay.
01:47:08.000 The Ukrainians have for long said they haven't suffered many, but now they're coming out saying, we've suffered more dead than you can possibly imagine.
01:47:15.000 They won't give a number to it.
01:47:16.000 But if you run the numbers, if you run the battles, if you talk to the mothers, people have gone in and the families are saying, where's my husband, where's my son, the missing, etc.
01:47:26.000 The numbers come up to around $350,000.
01:47:29.000 We know that Evgeny Purgosian's...
01:47:32.000 Bare minimum $350,000.
01:47:33.000 Yeah, because there's missing and things of that.
01:47:36.000 You know, Prigozhin, who we talked about, Wagner, in the battle for Bakhmut earlier this year, they've killed 75,000, and that's counted bodies, 75,000 Ukrainians physically counted by them.
01:47:49.000 So that's a lot.
01:47:50.000 They just killed 13,000 Ukrainians at the first two and a half weeks of this counteroffensive, counted bodies.
01:47:57.000 So these are big numbers, guys, a lot of numbers.
01:47:59.000 The point I'm trying to make is...
01:48:26.000 We'll guarantee you security.
01:48:31.000 That's all we want.
01:48:33.000 Wow.
01:48:34.000 I think that's pretty fair terms.
01:48:36.000 Especially when you look at what happened today.
01:48:38.000 But Ukraine's walked away, and since they've been in a war, I just want to remind people, because of the decisions made by the United States in pressuring Ukraine to not go along with this peace treaty, There are hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians that are dead who otherwise would be alive.
01:48:53.000 There are tens of millions of Ukrainians who have been displaced from their homes, who otherwise would have a home, be living a normal life.
01:48:59.000 Think of all the children who aren't going to school now, who are refugees, whose lives are displaced, who have lost their fathers.
01:49:05.000 Every one of those dead men is a potential father, brother, uncle, gone in their lives.
01:49:12.000 Finished.
01:49:13.000 Gone.
01:49:13.000 Forever.
01:49:14.000 A trillion dollars of infrastructure damage has been done to their country.
01:49:18.000 All because the United States wouldn't allow Ukraine to make peace with Russia.
01:49:23.000 Russia's not the problem, ladies and gentlemen.
01:49:26.000 Russia's not the problem.
01:49:28.000 Russia wants peace.
01:49:29.000 Russia's been seeking peace.
01:49:30.000 It's the United States.
01:49:31.000 Now, here's the sickest part of all.
01:49:34.000 You've heard the name George Soros.
01:49:35.000 I know everybody's talking about George Soros.
01:49:38.000 Probably can't use that name and get in trouble.
01:49:40.000 But in 1993, George Soros wrote a paper that talked about how NATO is supposed to deal with Russia.
01:49:47.000 And he said, we need to avoid a direct war between NATO and Russia at all costs.
01:49:52.000 Because there'll be NATO body bags that come home, and that's always a bad look.
01:49:52.000 Why?
01:49:56.000 What they need to do, he said, is come up with a situation where you have Eastern European manpower.
01:50:01.000 Yeah.
01:50:01.000 Mm-hmm.
01:50:13.000 Eastern European manpower, Ukraine.
01:50:15.000 Yep.
01:50:16.000 Lured into believing they're going to be NATO, but never going to be allowed.
01:50:20.000 2008, inviting them in, but never living.
01:50:22.000 Marrying them with NATO technology.
01:50:25.000 Tens of billions of dollars of NATO technology to bring pain to Russia.
01:50:29.000 1993, George Soros put that in place.
01:50:31.000 Wow.
01:50:31.000 That's the policy that we have today.
01:50:33.000 That's exactly the policy.
01:50:34.000 We are...
01:50:35.000 All these people who put the little Ukrainian flag on your...
01:50:39.000 You know, social media, the virtue signaling, all this stuff.
01:50:43.000 Understand that all you're doing is killing them.
01:50:45.000 We don't care about Ukraine.
01:50:47.000 If we did, we would never allow hundreds of thousands of them to die in a war that they can't win.
01:50:52.000 All we're using them to do is inflict pain on Russia.
01:50:55.000 And this is a design, a plan that's been in place since 1993.
01:51:02.000 For all the people out there, right, that are saying, oh, he's a pulling puppet, pulling propaganda, blah, blah, blah, blah, I mean, do you guys have these facts?
01:51:11.000 I don't think a lot of the detractors do, man.
01:51:13.000 They're just going to sit there and say some bullshit or make ad hominem attacks versus...
01:51:18.000 Here's the other thing, too.
01:51:18.000 They won't debate.
01:51:20.000 My uncle...
01:51:21.000 My uncle fought in World War II. Yeah.
01:51:21.000 Incredible.
01:51:23.000 He went over Normandy Beach.
01:51:25.000 Not on D-Day.
01:51:26.000 A lot of people realize that...
01:51:28.000 You know, the Normandy Beach became a supply route.
01:51:31.000 So I think he came over on D plus six.
01:51:33.000 Yeah.
01:51:34.000 He was in a supply unit.
01:51:36.000 He's not a hero.
01:51:36.000 He's not a frontline hero.
01:51:38.000 His job was to run trucks up and down what they call the Red Ball Express.
01:51:41.000 And he did that, took the trucks in, helped move George Patton's army up through France and all that stuff.
01:51:47.000 And around in October of 1944 in Belgium, his unit, a company, Wow.
01:52:06.000 Wow.
01:52:09.000 Mel Babcock is his name.
01:52:11.000 Well, he's dead now.
01:52:12.000 Mel Babcock finished the war, went back to Kellogg, Michigan, worked in the Kellogg factory.
01:52:17.000 He made cornflakes, of all things.
01:52:20.000 Quiet, unassuming man.
01:52:22.000 He came and visited my family when we lived in Germany in 1977.
01:52:28.000 And he was dying of cancer.
01:52:30.000 He was a smoker.
01:52:31.000 But he still had his health.
01:52:32.000 But he wanted to come back and see the battlefield.
01:52:35.000 So we drove him through Europe.
01:52:37.000 And we took him.
01:52:38.000 And, you know, as you're going through France, he's just all like, oh, I remember this village.
01:52:42.000 I remember we came here.
01:52:43.000 The women came out to meet us.
01:52:45.000 But when we get up to Belgium, it got quiet.
01:52:48.000 And when we turn around that road, He got out of the car and he broke down and cried.
01:52:53.000 Grown man, bawling like a baby because he remembered what happened there.
01:52:57.000 We then went to the cemetery.
01:52:58.000 There's a big military cemetery in Luxembourg and went there.
01:53:03.000 And that's where George Patton is buried.
01:53:05.000 And there are tens of thousands of crosses of dead American soldiers.
01:53:08.000 And we went there and we found the graves of his friends.
01:53:11.000 And he went to each one of them and had a private conversation with them, but crying the whole time.
01:53:19.000 I was, gosh, 16 years old when that happened, and it impacted me deeply.
01:53:24.000 I lived in Germany, but watching the cost of that war to my uncle, what it did to my uncle, I realized how evil Nazi Germany was.
01:53:35.000 I traveled to the concentration camps.
01:53:37.000 I saw them.
01:53:38.000 I started to educate myself about it.
01:53:41.000 And while I like the Germans, I love the Germans.
01:53:43.000 They're good people.
01:53:44.000 Their cultures, who doesn't like to drink beer and eat schnitzel and all that kind of stuff?
01:53:49.000 But at the end of the day, I realized that they had a dark history.
01:53:52.000 That Nazi Germany could never be allowed to rear its ugly head.
01:53:58.000 And my uncle is up above looking down at me saying, never forget.
01:54:03.000 Never forget.
01:54:05.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we're allowing Nazis to come back into power in Ukraine.
01:54:09.000 The Ukrainian government is a government that has made Stepan Bandera, that guy we talked about earlier.
01:54:15.000 He's their national hero.
01:54:17.000 They sing songs to him.
01:54:18.000 They name streets after him.
01:54:19.000 They put statues on him.
01:54:21.000 They have his tattoos.
01:54:23.000 They had a Bandera unit called the Dillwiger unit.
01:54:26.000 They have crossed hammers as their sign.
01:54:28.000 These are the guys that raped Jewish women, hit them with skulls.
01:54:31.000 They ran the concentration camps.
01:54:33.000 These are mass murders.
01:54:34.000 They specialized in herding villagers into a barn and setting it on fire and then drinking while they burned to death.
01:54:41.000 And anybody who managed to come out of the building, they shoot them down with a machine gun.
01:54:44.000 This is what they did for fun.
01:54:45.000 And these are the people that said Slava Ukraina as they murdered the people.
01:54:49.000 Glory to Ukraine.
01:54:50.000 Glory to the heroes.
01:54:52.000 Glory to Ukraine.
01:54:53.000 Nancy Pelosi said Slavukraina in the American Congress.
01:54:57.000 Does she not understand that that is the exact equivalent of Sig Heil?
01:55:00.000 Imagine if I went to the Congress, stood up and went, Sig Heil!
01:55:04.000 People go, what the hell are you doing, you Nazi?
01:55:06.000 Well, what is she doing?
01:55:07.000 Saying Slavukraina, because that is a Nazi war cry of the Ukrainian nationalists who murdered people on behalf.
01:55:15.000 And that's her people, too.
01:55:17.000 Yes.
01:55:17.000 That's her people.
01:55:18.000 Thank you for bringing that up.
01:55:20.000 My uncle's up there looking down saying, uh-uh.
01:55:23.000 And you know what?
01:55:24.000 There's a lot of Americans who have uncles and brothers, you know, fathers, grandfathers who are looking down saying, uh-uh, we're ignoring them.
01:55:31.000 We've turned our back on our history.
01:55:33.000 We went to war, and remember, we went to war with the Soviet Union against Nazi Germany.
01:55:38.000 I just came from Russia.
01:55:40.000 I'm telling you right now that there's not a Russian family that didn't suffer.
01:55:44.000 My wife is from Georgia, Republic of Georgia.
01:55:48.000 Her father passed away recently, and he left a memoir.
01:55:53.000 So we're having that memoir.
01:55:54.000 It was handwritten, so we're having it transcribed.
01:55:57.000 And she's reading it, and she just came to me, and she said, I just came to this section about my family in World War II. I lost five relatives.
01:56:07.000 And she went through all the relatives there, 18 years old, 19 years old, all the relatives that were lost.
01:56:13.000 Her family lost five people dead in the war.
01:56:16.000 That's just one family.
01:56:18.000 Throughout the entire Soviet Union, every family lost people.
01:56:21.000 There's not a family that wasn't touched by this.
01:56:23.000 And they remember.
01:56:25.000 They don't forget.
01:56:26.000 They wake up every morning and those people are above them staring down saying, don't forget what happened.
01:56:31.000 Don't disgrace our sacrifice.
01:56:33.000 And so you say, what is motivating the Russians to fight in Ukraine today?
01:56:38.000 They're fighting Nazis.
01:56:39.000 They're fighting Nazis.
01:56:41.000 And when Americans go over there and provide assistance, we're helping Nazis.
01:56:45.000 And we know it.
01:56:46.000 Even the New York Times can't hide it anymore.
01:56:48.000 They're sitting there taking photographs.
01:56:50.000 If you look at the people surrounding Zelensky, they've got Nazi symbols.
01:56:55.000 Look at the tanks that we give them.
01:56:57.000 They put the Nazi cross on it.
01:56:59.000 Let me ask you this.
01:57:00.000 For people out there that might say, well, Zelensky, right, is Jewish.
01:57:05.000 Why is he surrounded by Nazis?
01:57:07.000 Why are Nazis protecting him?
01:57:09.000 What's your answer for that?
01:57:11.000 Study the concentration camps.
01:57:12.000 And there's a class of people called Capo.
01:57:16.000 They're the guys that worked.
01:57:18.000 They were collaborators with the Nazis.
01:57:19.000 They're the ones that kept the Jews in the camps under order.
01:57:23.000 They're the ones that lined them up, took the roll call.
01:57:25.000 They got extra food, extra benefits.
01:57:27.000 They were Jews.
01:57:30.000 The Capos helped the Nazis kill the Jews.
01:57:33.000 So it's a phenomena.
01:57:35.000 Zelensky is a disgrace to every Jew that is alive today.
01:57:39.000 Many rabbis have called him out on it.
01:57:41.000 They've said, you're a disgrace.
01:57:43.000 Israeli rabbis have said, you're a disgrace.
01:57:45.000 You're the least Jewish.
01:57:46.000 Can he go to Israel if he wanted to?
01:57:48.000 He could.
01:57:49.000 But, you know, yeah, I mean, I'm actually thinking that his wife has already bought property in Israel.
01:57:56.000 Because I looked at it like, To me, just off of him not wanting to make peace, him not wanting to come to the table with Putin in my head, I'm like, why is he not?
01:58:06.000 But then I think about it.
01:58:07.000 Wait, he's a billionaire now because of the war.
01:58:10.000 He has a house here in Miami.
01:58:12.000 He's perfectly safe.
01:58:14.000 Nothing's going to happen to him.
01:58:15.000 So does he really care about Ukraine?
01:58:19.000 I don't think so.
01:58:19.000 It's a question only he can answer.
01:58:21.000 I don't imagine as a president you could claim to care about a country that you're destroying.
01:58:26.000 And knowing that you can't save it.
01:58:28.000 Knowing that every day that goes by, all you're doing...
01:58:31.000 Look, he's a guy that has to know that George Soros' plan is coming into play.
01:58:36.000 That he's being used as a tool.
01:58:38.000 That we're sacrificing East European manpower to hurt Russia.
01:58:41.000 What's George Soros' beef with Russia?
01:58:45.000 Again, that's a question only George Soros can answer.
01:58:48.000 I think his whole thing is, you know, world government, and he needs to, the Russians have always stood up against the kind of globalism that George Soros and others have been putting in play.
01:59:04.000 Yeah.
01:59:04.000 Wow.
01:59:05.000 Alright, I'll hit some of these chats.
01:59:07.000 Guys, like the video, man.
01:59:08.000 You guys are getting a lot of heat right now.
01:59:11.000 Rams goes, what did Zelensky really mean when he said he wants Ukraine to be Israel 2.0?
01:59:16.000 Did he say that?
01:59:17.000 What he means by that is he wants the security of Israel.
01:59:21.000 He wants to have the level of security that Israel has.
01:59:24.000 He wants the Iron Dome.
01:59:26.000 He wants American protection, things of that nature.
01:59:30.000 He wants to make Ukraine so powerful that its neighbors won't dare to attack it.
01:59:37.000 But what he doesn't understand is that Israel is attacked every day because their neighbors hate them.
01:59:41.000 Yeah.
01:59:41.000 That Israel has become a hated part of the Middle East, and that security is in name only.
01:59:48.000 Israel has all this wonderful weaponry, all this security, but they're miserable.
01:59:53.000 Again, short story.
01:59:54.000 I first went to Israel in 1994, and from 1994 to 1998, I traveled to Israel many, many, many times.
02:00:02.000 Every time I went to Israel, without exception, there was a major terrorist attack or a major incident in Lebanon, something where a lot of Israelis died.
02:00:09.000 Biggest police state in the world.
02:00:11.000 But I'll say this.
02:00:13.000 The Israelis that I worked with cried when the thing happened.
02:00:17.000 Then they got up and they went to work.
02:00:19.000 And many of them went to work for peace.
02:00:21.000 I said, well, how could you have peace with the Palestinians?
02:00:23.000 They said, we have to have peace with the Palestinians.
02:00:25.000 We have to.
02:00:26.000 We have to find a way.
02:00:27.000 I'm not saying that everything they did was right.
02:00:29.000 I'm just saying that their mentality was this.
02:00:31.000 I went back in 2010 with my wife, and we toured, I think, maybe 2009, late 2009.
02:00:40.000 But we toured Israel.
02:00:42.000 Changed country.
02:00:43.000 Totally changed country.
02:00:45.000 Fear.
02:00:46.000 The fear that exists was palpable.
02:00:48.000 They built a wall.
02:00:53.000 Wow.
02:01:17.000 They've emulated the tactics of the Nazis.
02:01:21.000 It's just mind-boggling.
02:01:25.000 We got here, Trevon Suki goes, so what do puppeteers U.S. and NATO get out of this instead of making peace and entering slash maintaining trade in Russia?
02:01:34.000 That's a good question.
02:01:35.000 What do we get out of continuing this war?
02:01:37.000 There's a lot of things I could think of, but I'll let you talk about it.
02:01:42.000 Let's start and understand that NATO has been an institution looking for a mission after the end of the Cold War.
02:01:49.000 They...
02:01:50.000 They call themselves a defensive alliance, yet they've carried out wars of aggression against Libya, against Serbia, and in Afghanistan.
02:01:58.000 So they're not a peaceful defensive alliance.
02:02:02.000 They're an aggressive war-making machine, and they failed.
02:02:06.000 We've forgotten.
02:02:07.000 Do you remember August of 2021, what happened in August of 2021?
02:02:12.000 Yeah.
02:02:13.000 The American withdrawal from Kabul?
02:02:15.000 Oh, yeah.
02:02:17.000 That was Al.
02:02:18.000 One of the biggest black guys in the Biden administration.
02:02:20.000 In American history?
02:02:21.000 Yeah.
02:02:21.000 But it wasn't just America.
02:02:23.000 NATO withdrew.
02:02:24.000 And we misled NATO. We kept telling NATO that we're going to stay.
02:02:27.000 We're doubling down.
02:02:28.000 We're never leading.
02:02:29.000 Remember, generals always went up to Congress saying, we can't leave Afghanistan.
02:02:33.000 We have to fight them over there to make sure we don't fight them here.
02:02:36.000 It's essential we stay there all the way up until the end.
02:02:38.000 And suddenly we went, we're done.
02:02:40.000 We're out of there.
02:02:40.000 And the NATO's going, what?
02:02:43.000 We've committed everything to this and you abandoned us.
02:02:46.000 So now NATO is in a panic mode because they're questioning why they exist and they're questioning, is America a trustworthy ally?
02:02:56.000 So ask yourself, why are we in Ukraine?
02:03:00.000 Because we had to create a new conflict to justify the continuation of NATO to make America relevant to NATO. We needed this war.
02:03:09.000 We made this war.
02:03:11.000 No one else but us.
02:03:13.000 Not to mention, we're able to test our weaponry.
02:03:16.000 We're able to test logistics.
02:03:18.000 We're able to test how to transport.
02:03:20.000 There's so many benefits to the United States being in this war because it allows us to basically try everything out with not too much risk to ourselves.
02:03:28.000 I mean, the Ukrainians are fine in the war.
02:03:30.000 We're giving them all the supplies.
02:03:31.000 But here's the bad thing.
02:03:33.000 We're losing.
02:03:34.000 Yeah, we are losing.
02:03:35.000 I mean, we're grinding through all our stuff.
02:03:38.000 We don't have any stuff left to give them.
02:03:41.000 And here's the other thing, too.
02:03:43.000 After this, I was going to ask you about how the Russians have beat us, like from a war strategy standpoint, how they've been able to beat us after this sort of continue.
02:03:52.000 Well, no, because I'll answer it when we go.
02:03:54.000 So we'll start with how the Russians have beat us.
02:03:57.000 How they invaded in and how they've tactically taken land and space.
02:04:02.000 Again, when the Russians first went into Ukraine, the special military operation.
02:04:07.000 That's what they call it.
02:04:08.000 I work.
02:04:09.000 And real quick, so the people know this, because you mentioned a great tidbit earlier, which I think kind of might have got overlooked by the audience.
02:04:16.000 You mentioned that Ukrainians had surrounded, if I'm not mistaken, Odessa, right?
02:04:21.000 These Nazis.
02:04:22.000 And they had a plan for March.
02:04:25.000 And Putin invaded in February preemptively before they can invade.
02:04:29.000 Right.
02:04:29.000 The Ukrainians had built this NATO. That's why they invaded in February.
02:04:32.000 This NATO-trained army that Ukraine had built up, 260,000 strong, they had moved 60,000 to 90,000 of them into the Ukrainian-occupied Donbass.
02:04:42.000 Donbass, I'm sorry.
02:04:43.000 And they were getting ready to launch an invasion to kick, to take over the rest of Donbass in March.
02:04:49.000 And that's why Putin invaded in February, because he had that intelligence and knew they were going to do that.
02:04:53.000 So for everybody thinking like, what the hell did he do?
02:04:55.000 He had to.
02:04:56.000 The first phase, though, as I said, was to get the Ukrainians back to the negotiating table.
02:05:02.000 Oh, this military operation when they invaded.
02:05:04.000 Right, when they invaded.
02:05:05.000 It wasn't designed to kill Zelensky, to capture Kiev, to do this.
02:05:09.000 It was an invasion designed to put pressure on Ukraine to get them to negotiate, and it worked.
02:05:14.000 Now, they signed—remember I told you they initialed that document?
02:05:19.000 Yeah.
02:05:19.000 What did the Russians do when the Ukrainians initialed the document?
02:05:22.000 Yeah.
02:05:22.000 They withdrew from Kiev.
02:05:24.000 They withdrew from Asumi, from Genev.
02:05:28.000 They pulled back because it was a good faith measure because they were trying to convince...
02:05:33.000 They told Zelensky, we're serious.
02:05:35.000 We don't want to occupy your territory.
02:05:37.000 So you signed it in a good faith gesture.
02:05:40.000 We're going to pull back.
02:05:42.000 Western media didn't report that.
02:05:43.000 No, they said Russians are retreating.
02:05:45.000 Yeah.
02:05:46.000 And so that's why Boris Johnson came in and said...
02:05:52.000 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
02:05:53.000 Got to keep this war going.
02:05:54.000 See, the Russians are retreating.
02:05:56.000 And the Ukrainians are like, well, they sort of promised.
02:05:58.000 Shh!
02:05:59.000 The Russians are retreating.
02:06:00.000 You've beaten them.
02:06:01.000 We're going to give you more weapons and we're going to get you back on track to retake the Donbass.
02:06:07.000 So now the Ukrainians are stuck in a war.
02:06:10.000 The Russians, meanwhile, are going, damn it, now what do we do?
02:06:13.000 Because we thought we were going to have this negotiated settlement.
02:06:17.000 So Russia said, okay, we're going to go to phase two.
02:06:19.000 Phase two was to take over the Donbass, secure their position in Kerosene and Zaporizhia, the land bridge connecting Russia with Crimea.
02:06:27.000 And that's all they wanted.
02:06:29.000 Is there a map that shows this by chance?
02:06:30.000 So we can show people visually that you could think of?
02:06:32.000 Maybe we could pull it up on Google?
02:06:33.000 Yeah.
02:06:34.000 I mean, if you just Google...
02:06:40.000 Oh...
02:06:40.000 Ukraine...
02:06:40.000 Ukraine...
02:06:41.000 Rybar...
02:06:43.000 Type in Ukraine map.
02:06:45.000 And we'll pull it up so we can give the people a visual.
02:06:47.000 I'm sorry.
02:06:47.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:06:49.000 So they start this, and this is where Wagner becomes a big player now, because now Wagner's told to expand their force into a division-sized unit to...
02:07:00.000 And for the audience, Wagner is a mercenary group created by one of Putin's right-hand men to kind of circumvent...
02:07:10.000 Certain laws in place that does not allow Russian soldiers to go into Ukraine, but they had to protect their people, so that's how they were able to get around it, correct?
02:07:19.000 If I'm not mistaken?
02:07:19.000 No, you're right.
02:07:21.000 Okay.
02:07:21.000 So there's the map.
02:07:24.000 Zoom in a bit more, Moe?
02:07:26.000 I don't know.
02:07:26.000 Can I... Yeah, yeah, you go.
02:07:28.000 Yeah, point to it real quick, and then Moe will show it on the...
02:07:32.000 All right, so...
02:07:32.000 This is where the Russians were here.
02:07:35.000 They pulled back...
02:07:37.000 Okay, Mo, go up to the top where it shows Kiev.
02:07:41.000 Put the mouse where Kiev is.
02:07:44.000 Right there.
02:07:44.000 Boom.
02:07:44.000 Yep.
02:07:45.000 And then, okay, so that's Kiev right there.
02:07:47.000 And then grab your mic real quick, Scott, and then kind of a...
02:07:51.000 So they pulled back here and here.
02:07:53.000 They still had their forces down here.
02:07:57.000 And then down in this area here...
02:07:59.000 I don't think the people could see.
02:08:00.000 But the point is, in the east, the Russians had...
02:08:03.000 Now they were going to be pushing west more.
02:08:06.000 And so they started this war, but they didn't have enough troops.
02:08:09.000 Yeah, there you go.
02:08:10.000 They didn't have enough troops.
02:08:11.000 This was the problem.
02:08:12.000 They started the war with only 180,000 to 200,000 troops.
02:08:15.000 Okay.
02:08:15.000 So now they didn't get the peace treaty they wanted.
02:08:18.000 But here's the deal.
02:08:19.000 See, you and I talked about sanctions.
02:08:21.000 Yeah.
02:08:21.000 Yeah.
02:08:22.000 Well, Putin didn't really know what the impact was.
02:08:24.000 He was still worried about sanctions.
02:08:26.000 Like, what is the impact on his economy?
02:08:28.000 Back in 2014.
02:08:28.000 No, no, no.
02:08:29.000 2022.
02:08:30.000 Oh, okay, okay.
02:08:31.000 Because people are, you know, the big question people have is, well, why did he go in with so few troops?
02:08:36.000 Hmm.
02:08:37.000 Well, because his goal wasn't to occupy, invade.
02:08:40.000 His goal was to intimidate into a peace treaty.
02:08:43.000 But now that NATO said, no, we're going to give you tens of billions of dollars of equipment, you know, the Russians now had to fight a war.
02:08:49.000 So they began fighting this war to secure...
02:08:55.000 The Donbass, to take control of all the Donbass and secure this land bridge to Crimea.
02:08:59.000 And that is, Donbass is northeast.
02:09:02.000 Right.
02:09:02.000 It's the north part of Ukraine.
02:09:04.000 Then you go down across the Sea of Azov, down to Crimea.
02:09:06.000 Yeah.
02:09:07.000 So they're...
02:09:07.000 Real quick, Mo, and highlight that area for the people so they kind of understand.
02:09:10.000 But Kenton, you can keep talking while he pulls it up.
02:09:12.000 So that becomes phase two of the operation.
02:09:21.000 But he didn't enlarge the army.
02:09:24.000 And this is the problem.
02:09:25.000 And people say, well, why didn't he?
02:09:27.000 Well, there's two reasons why.
02:09:29.000 Because he was concerned about the economy.
02:09:36.000 The sanctions were hurting.
02:09:38.000 He had a plan to counter it, but the fear was that sanctions could cause up to a 20-25% contraction of the economy, which means you'd have unemployment, you'd have internal unrest, etc.
02:09:52.000 Now if you mobilize, have a draft, That can also cause...
02:09:58.000 Remember Vietnam War?
02:09:59.000 People resisted.
02:10:00.000 So what he didn't want to do is create the conditions for internal unrest.
02:10:04.000 Because many people in Russia hadn't bought into why he invaded.
02:10:08.000 They're like, why did you go in?
02:10:10.000 Especially now, it didn't work.
02:10:12.000 Now we have a war.
02:10:13.000 And so...
02:10:15.000 His army's moving, advancing, advancing, and he's destroying the Ukrainian army.
02:10:19.000 Remember that 260,000 troops that were there?
02:10:22.000 He killed about half of them in this part of the fighting.
02:10:25.000 The guys that tried to invade that area, he preemptively got rid of half of them.
02:10:31.000 But NATO's rebuilding the Ukrainian army.
02:10:34.000 And now Putin's got a problem.
02:10:36.000 He has this long front, but he didn't have enough men.
02:10:39.000 When we say 180,000, understand, first of all, the frontage is, let's just say it's 1,000 kilometers, it's more than that.
02:10:46.000 But that means 180 men per kilometer.
02:10:49.000 But 180 men isn't right, because you have people, not everybody's a frontline soldier.
02:10:52.000 You only have 60,000 frontline soldiers.
02:10:55.000 That's 60 men per kilometer.
02:10:57.000 But now, other places you're going to have more.
02:10:59.000 In some areas, you only had 30 to 40 men per kilometer.
02:11:03.000 30 to 40 minutes to defend a kilometer.
02:11:05.000 How much do you normally need?
02:11:06.000 Normally you need around 200, 300.
02:11:08.000 There you go.
02:11:09.000 Okay.
02:11:09.000 All right.
02:11:10.000 In depth.
02:11:11.000 One line of defense, second line of defense, third line of defense, reserves, all that.
02:11:16.000 So they're operating on like 20% of what they should be.
02:11:19.000 Right.
02:11:19.000 Thinly manned.
02:11:20.000 So now this big new NATO army comes in and they shoot the gap.
02:11:24.000 You have these guys thinly manned.
02:11:25.000 They shoot the gap.
02:11:26.000 They get into the rear.
02:11:27.000 They push the Russians back.
02:11:28.000 The Russians opted.
02:11:30.000 Rather than do what they call the hedgehog defense, which is dig in, get surrounded, fight, kill a lot of Ukrainians, but die.
02:11:37.000 The Russians said, nope, everybody back, retreat, come to this river, dig in, create a new line of defense.
02:11:43.000 And they did that.
02:11:45.000 And they killed a lot of Ukrainians in the process.
02:11:47.000 But this was the big, remember the Ukrainian big counteroffensive that took over Kharkov and then took over Kherson.
02:11:52.000 Everybody's going, oh, the Ukrainians are winning, the Ukrainians are winning.
02:11:55.000 Not really.
02:11:56.000 The Russians consolidated their defenses, and now Putin then said...
02:12:00.000 So it was their mistake for coming in with not enough men, because they were hoping that that would get them to the table.
02:12:04.000 It was a huge mistake to come in with not enough men.
02:12:06.000 But now Putin was liberated into mobilizing.
02:12:10.000 So now Putin orders the mobilization of 300,000 men.
02:12:14.000 He then also, they get volunteers, about 150,000 other volunteers, and he starts expanding the military.
02:12:19.000 And the bottom line is they went from 180,000 to about 400, 450,000 right now is what they have.
02:12:26.000 And these guys are dug in, well-trained, well-equipped.
02:12:31.000 The Russian economy is working.
02:12:33.000 They're producing tanks.
02:12:34.000 They're producing missiles.
02:12:35.000 Everybody's saying, the Russians are going to run out of ammunition.
02:12:37.000 Run out of ammunition.
02:12:38.000 Russians will never run out of ammunition.
02:12:40.000 Their defense industry is just churning it out.
02:12:43.000 And so, that's the army he's created.
02:12:45.000 They destroyed that second army.
02:12:46.000 The third army has been rebuilt.
02:12:48.000 That's the one launching the counteroffensive now.
02:12:50.000 It's being destroyed.
02:12:53.000 This is the one we gave the Leopard 2 tank.
02:12:55.000 Remember, the Leopard 2 was supposed to be the game-winning tank, game-changer, modern Western technology?
02:12:59.000 They're all burning right now.
02:13:01.000 The Russians killed them that quick.
02:13:03.000 The Russians have supremacy.
02:13:04.000 Look, In the lead-up to the Gulf War, one of my jobs was to plan the Marine combat breaching operation of Iraqi defensive lines.
02:13:12.000 And I did it using a supercomputer called the Janus computer.
02:13:15.000 Long story short, I built the terrain map, I populated with the Iraqis, and then I populated with the Marines, and then I, with the computer, gave them different capabilities based upon their training, their weaponry, and things of that nature.
02:13:32.000 And then we'd run the simulation.
02:13:34.000 And at first, the Iraqis killed all of us.
02:13:36.000 So we kept gaming, figuring out what we had to do to get the Marines to advance.
02:13:42.000 And it came down to that we had to have a lot of air power, blow the hell out of the Iraqis.
02:13:46.000 We had to have a lot of artillery to suppress them.
02:13:48.000 We had to have a lot of weapon systems suppressing them before we could advance in, breach the fields, move forward.
02:13:54.000 The Ukrainians right now don't have any air power.
02:13:58.000 How can you attack when you have no air power?
02:14:00.000 The answer is you can't.
02:14:01.000 The Ukrainians don't have sufficient artillery.
02:14:03.000 How can you attack when you don't have that?
02:14:06.000 They have no air defense, which means Russian helicopters have a field day on the battlefield.
02:14:11.000 We're slaughtering the Ukrainians before they even get to the first line.
02:14:14.000 The Russians are slaughtering the Ukrainians before they get to the first line of defense.
02:14:19.000 They have no chance.
02:14:20.000 This is murder, mass murder that's taking place today, and yet we continue to push the Ukrainians to attack.
02:14:27.000 Why?
02:14:27.000 Why?
02:14:28.000 Because, as I said, it's about East European manpower with NATO technology to bring pain.
02:14:35.000 But are they even bringing pain anymore?
02:14:37.000 Well, 1,300 dead Russians is pain.
02:14:40.000 Okay.
02:14:41.000 Imagine America taking that casualties.
02:14:43.000 Yeah.
02:14:44.000 Imagine in two and a half months we had 1,300 body bags coming home.
02:14:49.000 But is it worth the cost?
02:14:51.000 No, because Russia, again, remember I talked about my uncle staring down at me?
02:14:57.000 Yeah.
02:14:58.000 The Russians have 27 million people staring down at them, saying, never forget your history.
02:15:04.000 You can't outpain a nation that suffered 27 million dead.
02:15:09.000 No, I mean, is it worth it for the Ukrainians because they're losing?
02:15:11.000 Like, yeah, they killed 1,300 Russians, but for the cost of 350,000 Ukrainians?
02:15:17.000 No, of course it's not worth it for the Ukrainians, but the Ukrainians have lost control of their destiny.
02:15:22.000 They're totally, you know...
02:15:24.000 The U.S. is 100%.
02:15:26.000 We are dictating everything.
02:15:28.000 Yeah.
02:15:28.000 And why does the U.S. care?
02:15:29.000 Because it's not our soldiers.
02:15:31.000 We want to bring down Russia.
02:15:33.000 I mean, look, let's look what happened to Evgeny Prigozhin, all right, Wagner Group.
02:15:39.000 Wagner Group was created, we talked about, in 2014.
02:15:42.000 In 2022, May 2022, they were given a $940 million contract from the Ministry of Defense to create a division-sized unit to help recapture the Donbass.
02:15:53.000 At that time, Lugansk and Donetsk were independent territories, so legally, Wagner could exist.
02:15:59.000 In September, they held a referendum in those territories, Lugansk, Donetsk, Kherson, Zaporizhia, and they Annex those territories.
02:16:08.000 They became Russia.
02:16:10.000 Now you have a legal problem, because by law, a private military company can't exist on Russian soil.
02:16:15.000 Wagner now became an illegal organization.
02:16:18.000 But they had a contract with the Ministry of Defense for one year, and the Ministry of Defense said, we will honor that contract.
02:16:25.000 But on 1 May, you have to become part of the Ministry of Defense.
02:16:29.000 Pogosian said no.
02:16:30.000 He was making money.
02:16:32.000 He said, this is my business.
02:16:34.000 So Prigozhin began a PR campaign elevating the status of Wagner in the minds of the Russian people, how he made a movie called Best in Hell, a full-screen movie, propaganda winning the Russians over, telling them that we're the strongest warriors, we're the best warriors.
02:16:48.000 Wagner's pretty good.
02:16:49.000 But he's also saying that the Russians suck.
02:16:51.000 The Russian leadership sucks.
02:16:53.000 We're the only good ones there are.
02:16:53.000 They're bad.
02:16:54.000 We're the ones that put him in power in the first place.
02:16:56.000 Yeah, he forgot that.
02:16:57.000 So now the Russians are saying, no way we're renewing this contract.
02:17:02.000 So when it ended, they pulled him out of Bakhmut.
02:17:05.000 They sent him back to the barracks.
02:17:07.000 They said, sign the contract or you're done.
02:17:12.000 And he said, no, I'm going to instead march on Moscow and capture Shoigu and those guys and make them give me the contract.
02:17:20.000 What the hell?
02:17:21.000 Yeah, no, this was all about greed, pure greed.
02:17:23.000 So he went on the road and Putin's like, what are you doing?
02:17:27.000 And he said, I'm coming for Shoigu.
02:17:29.000 And he said, no, this is treason.
02:17:30.000 Now, people think that Prigozhin's a strong guy with Wagner.
02:17:34.000 Let me tell you what happened.
02:17:35.000 Putin put 2,500 Russian special forces outside of Serpikov, which is a town south of Moscow, and they dug in.
02:17:43.000 And when the lead Wagner elements came in, they were told, if you come one step more, we're going to kill you all.
02:17:49.000 Mm-hmm.
02:17:50.000 And to prove it, they brought in a helicopter and they blew up a car.
02:17:52.000 Now, Wagner shot down a number of Russian helicopters, killed 12 Russian airmen.
02:17:57.000 That's murder, by the way, because Wagner has no right to do what they're doing.
02:18:00.000 Meanwhile, Prigozhin's down in Rostov.
02:18:02.000 10,000 Chechen Ahmad fighters working for Russia surround the city and send the message into Prigozhin.
02:18:10.000 You're going to die tonight.
02:18:11.000 We're coming in.
02:18:12.000 We're going to kill all of Wagner.
02:18:12.000 We're going to kill you.
02:18:14.000 If you don't give up.
02:18:16.000 So Wagner gave up.
02:18:17.000 They came back.
02:18:19.000 They disbanded.
02:18:20.000 They no longer exist.
02:18:23.000 Chechnyans don't fuck around.
02:18:24.000 They don't fuck around.
02:18:25.000 I spent some time in Chechnya.
02:18:26.000 It was pretty cool.
02:18:28.000 Still Muslim.
02:18:30.000 A Muslim majority country.
02:18:34.000 Very Islamic.
02:18:36.000 Very...
02:18:37.000 I mean, they live accordance to the faith, but they live in peace and harmony with the Russian Orthodox.
02:18:43.000 When you go to Grozny, which has been totally rebuilt, it was the most destroyed city in the world in 2002.
02:18:48.000 Today, it is this city.
02:18:50.000 You almost think you're in Las Vegas.
02:18:52.000 There's so many lights going on and the beauty of it, mosques, churches.
02:18:57.000 The Russians and the Chechens live in peace and harmony.
02:19:01.000 Americans don't want to hear it because we always talk about how bad Putin is.
02:19:06.000 Putin is loved in Chechnya.
02:19:08.000 Everywhere you go, his portrait is everywhere.
02:19:11.000 They adore him.
02:19:12.000 They also adore Ahmad Kadyrov, the father of Ramzan Kadyrov, the current president, because he made peace with Putin.
02:19:21.000 And together they work to rebuild Chechnya.
02:19:25.000 And today Chechnya is just this wonderful...
02:19:27.000 Republic, I would encourage everybody when all this war is to visit.
02:19:31.000 They went out there because they have a huge fighter community there.
02:19:34.000 Oh, God!
02:19:35.000 The MMA community out there is unreal.
02:19:38.000 There's some of the best MMA fighters coming out of there.
02:19:40.000 I talked about the...
02:19:42.000 That's all they do.
02:19:45.000 No distractions, no booze, no women, just train, fight.
02:19:48.000 I went to their Spetsnaz Academy and got to watch them train.
02:19:53.000 And then they gave me the honor of...
02:19:56.000 I mean, this is a weird thing, but I was...
02:19:58.000 In Dagestan.
02:20:00.000 No, in Chechnya.
02:20:01.000 Yeah, Chechnya, yeah.
02:20:02.000 And I was...
02:20:03.000 They assembled the presidential...
02:20:04.000 No, I'm saying and Dagestan.
02:20:05.000 Oh, and Dagestan, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:20:07.000 They assembled the presidential guard, the Akhmat Special Forces, for me.
02:20:12.000 Oh, wow.
02:20:12.000 And I got to inspect them and meet all their commanders.
02:20:15.000 And all that stuff.
02:20:16.000 It was just the weirdest moment of my life because I'm an American.
02:20:20.000 Yeah.
02:20:20.000 And I'm there, but they respect me as a Marine.
02:20:22.000 They respect me as a warrior.
02:20:24.000 They respect me as a man of honor and integrity.
02:20:27.000 And so they did that.
02:20:29.000 I have nothing but respect for these people.
02:20:32.000 And again, it's a beautiful...
02:20:33.000 And Chechnya is a part of Russia, right?
02:20:35.000 Is it like a state?
02:20:36.000 Would it be like a functional equivalent of like a Texas for us?
02:20:38.000 It's like Texas.
02:20:39.000 It's a former...
02:20:40.000 They call it a republic.
02:20:42.000 Mm-hmm.
02:20:43.000 Ramzan Kadyrov is the leader, but they are part of the Russian Federation, and they're fighting today as part of the Russian Federation.
02:20:52.000 They have Russian passports.
02:20:53.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:20:54.000 They speak Russian, the whole deal.
02:20:57.000 They are proud to be part of Russia, too.
02:20:59.000 That's why they're in Ukraine.
02:21:01.000 Kadyrov was one of the first guys.
02:21:03.000 He said, no, we can't, because what Kadyrov knows...
02:21:09.000 Yeah.
02:21:16.000 Yeah.
02:21:28.000 And so they see what the CIA is doing in Ukraine.
02:21:30.000 They say, no, no, no, no, no, no.
02:21:32.000 We're not going to let that happen.
02:21:33.000 So they're actually going to Ukraine to save Ukraine from the CIA. Yeah.
02:21:38.000 Because the Chechens know the truth.
02:21:40.000 Yeah.
02:21:40.000 Yeah.
02:21:41.000 And they were definitely targeted because of their strong...
02:21:44.000 And they're all MMA fighters.
02:21:46.000 I just want to reiterate that.
02:21:47.000 Every one of those Chechen special forces guys I met...
02:21:50.000 Yeah.
02:21:51.000 They could kick my butt.
02:21:53.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:21:53.000 Of course.
02:21:54.000 They're all fighters, man.
02:21:55.000 They're just studs.
02:21:57.000 You just look at them going, wow, all you do is train.
02:21:59.000 Yeah, that's all they do.
02:22:00.000 They train.
02:22:01.000 They're religious.
02:22:02.000 They don't do drugs.
02:22:03.000 They don't drink alcohol.
02:22:04.000 It's all forbidden in the Islamic religion.
02:22:06.000 They don't womenize.
02:22:08.000 Yeah.
02:22:08.000 All the things that Americans are around doing, chasing women, drinking.
02:22:12.000 They've got two or three wives, which is fine.
02:22:15.000 There is that, but they're faithful to their wives, and they're family people.
02:22:21.000 The family orientation is unreal, and they're the most loyal friends you could ever...
02:22:27.000 They're also the worst enemy you could ever have.
02:22:34.000 In America, we talk about the Hatfields and McCoys, the blood feuds.
02:22:38.000 Chechens got blood feuds if you cross their family the wrong way.
02:22:44.000 Gotcha.
02:22:45.000 They're going to get you.
02:22:46.000 Absolutely.
02:22:47.000 And they have the religion on their side, so they're going to go super hard.
02:22:52.000 It's one thing to fight someone who's a paid mercenary or whatever.
02:22:55.000 It's another thing to fight someone who believes that they are there on God's will to fight you on God's will.
02:23:00.000 You can't.
02:23:01.000 It's different.
02:23:02.000 The only way you beat that is to kill them, and even then you don't beat them.
02:23:06.000 As I drove through Chechnya, you had the cemeteries.
02:23:09.000 Yeah.
02:23:15.000 Yeah.
02:23:30.000 Of course.
02:23:31.000 That's crazy that they label it that way.
02:23:33.000 You're going, one, two, three.
02:23:35.000 There's a whole bunch of unevented steps out there, man.
02:23:38.000 Goddamn.
02:23:39.000 Mo, you had a question, right?
02:23:40.000 Real quick, hit him with the question.
02:23:42.000 It was something pretty good on language.
02:23:45.000 Yes, I did.
02:23:46.000 It was regards to Russia's growth.
02:23:50.000 And I was wondering, is this why there are an amount of extra countries in Eastern Europe and Asian countries being fluent in Russian language?
02:23:59.000 Is that a result of the growth or is it maybe the language learning from all these other countries being so fluent in Russian?
02:24:08.000 Is a result of Russia's growing?
02:24:12.000 Or is it the other way around?
02:24:13.000 It's the other way around.
02:24:14.000 The spread of the Russian language is because Russia occupied these territories for a while.
02:24:21.000 I mean, after World War II, Russia occupied East Germany.
02:24:24.000 They occupied Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, the whole thing.
02:24:28.000 Also, the eastward expansion of Russia.
02:24:32.000 You know, into Tartaria, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, going up to the Buryatia in Lake Baikal and elsewhere.
02:24:41.000 So all these Muslim and Buddhist peoples learn to speak Russian as well.
02:24:47.000 But the other thing I'll say is that the Russians are...
02:24:50.000 Very good at, not assimilating, of peaceful coexistence.
02:24:56.000 So in America, we sort of have this thing where we say, if you want to be an American, you've got to become an American.
02:25:01.000 You've got to change.
02:25:02.000 And the Russians are like, no, we respect who you are.
02:25:07.000 Like with the Chechens.
02:25:08.000 They're not telling the Chechens you've got to become Russian.
02:25:10.000 Or become Christian or anything like that.
02:25:12.000 They're saying, you are who you are.
02:25:13.000 Kazan, one of the most beautiful cities in the world, Kazan.
02:25:19.000 It's the capital of Tatarstan, a predominantly Muslim territory.
02:25:27.000 Again, beautiful, peaceful coexistence, orthodoxy coexisting next to Islam.
02:25:36.000 No problems whatsoever.
02:25:40.000 Not like America.
02:25:41.000 I'm not going to say there's no crime.
02:25:42.000 Of course, there's crime everywhere you go.
02:25:43.000 But I'll tell you what, there wasn't a Russian city that I walked around in at night where I felt at risk.
02:25:49.000 That doesn't mean that I wasn't.
02:25:50.000 It doesn't mean that there couldn't be a drunk guy, there couldn't be a criminal.
02:25:53.000 It's everywhere.
02:25:53.000 Of course.
02:25:54.000 But I'm just telling you that the society there is...
02:26:01.000 Very civil, very peaceful.
02:26:05.000 I was going to say, what is your response to people that say that Russia is nothing more than a gas station, has the economy of Italy?
02:26:15.000 That's a common criticism about Russia's world power capabilities, saying that they have dated military, they're not as advanced as people say.
02:26:23.000 What's your response to that?
02:26:25.000 Well, let's just start with the concept of Russia as a gas station disguised as a nation.
02:26:31.000 I think John McCain said that and some other people said that too.
02:26:34.000 Well, if you're going to say that, then don't be the Humvee on a superhighway in the middle of nowhere that ran out of gas.
02:26:43.000 Because the Russians know energy better than we do.
02:26:47.000 That's why Europe sucks right now.
02:26:50.000 Because they cut themselves off of Russian energy and they have no alternative.
02:26:54.000 Cheap Russian gas, the Americans come in, they're friends by the way, and we're charging them five to seven times the amount of price for gas that the Russians were giving them.
02:27:04.000 We're good to go.
02:27:21.000 It's PPP, Parity Purchasing Power, I think is the term.
02:27:26.000 What that means is, so in the United States, we tend to skew things to our benefit.
02:27:30.000 We talk about gross national product.
02:27:32.000 Yeah.
02:27:33.000 Okay, that's fine.
02:27:34.000 So in America, let's, again, I'm just going to be oversimplified here.
02:27:38.000 $100, gross national product.
02:27:41.000 Okay, and we go, and the Russians, they only make $10.
02:27:45.000 Okay, that's fine, Scott.
02:27:47.000 Go to the supermarket.
02:27:50.000 And buy a basket of food.
02:27:52.000 Well, it's going to cost you $70.
02:27:55.000 But in Russia, the same basket of food is only going to cost you $3.12.
02:28:01.000 Suddenly, that economy size doesn't matter, does it?
02:28:04.000 Because the purchasing power of the Russian economy is far greater than that.
02:28:09.000 So when they say it's the economy the size of Italy, wrong.
02:28:13.000 Russia can accomplish so much more with its economy because the cost of living is high.
02:28:18.000 Inflation isn't through the roof.
02:28:20.000 3% as opposed to 8%.
02:28:22.000 Yeah.
02:28:23.000 So...
02:28:24.000 You got to understand Russia's economy before you start making those things.
02:28:28.000 That's the problem with people like John McCain.
02:28:30.000 Well, he's dead now, so it doesn't matter.
02:28:32.000 But Lindsey Graham and others, the people who say that just don't understand the reality of the Russian economy.
02:28:42.000 They can't produce equipment.
02:28:43.000 There was a video out.
02:28:45.000 The newest Russian tank is the T-90 assault breaker tank.
02:28:49.000 All the bells and whistles designed to beat NATO and everything.
02:28:53.000 It did an attack on the Ukrainian lines, and there's a drone up there filming it.
02:28:58.000 It got hit 19 times.
02:29:00.000 19 times by Ukrainian tank fire, RPG fire, anti-tank missile fire.
02:29:05.000 19 times.
02:29:06.000 Still going.
02:29:07.000 Wow.
02:29:08.000 Leopard tank.
02:29:09.000 That's the German tank that...
02:29:11.000 Wonderful.
02:29:12.000 Comes in, gets hit with one Lancet drone, blows up and burns.
02:29:16.000 The Russians have been preparing for a war with NATO now for over 20 years.
02:29:21.000 Every piece of equipment they make has been designed to defeat NATO, NATO's equipment.
02:29:26.000 What has NATO been doing for the last 20 years?
02:29:29.000 Practicing to kill Afghan wedding parties and kicking down the doors of Iraqi villagers.
02:29:35.000 That's what we've been doing.
02:29:36.000 And we haven't been practicing to fight the Russians.
02:29:39.000 Yeah.
02:29:40.000 Is that why we're so excited to be engaged with them now through the proxy war of Ukraine?
02:29:45.000 Well, I mean, I think we might have been excited early on thinking we could win.
02:29:50.000 But General Cavoli, the commander of U.S. forces in Europe today, Supreme Allied Commander, he spoke to a Swedish forum in January, defense forum, and he said, the scope and scale of the violence that's taking place in Ukraine today is beyond the imagination of NATO. Now,
02:30:06.000 that's an important thing to say because When you do a training thing, you're training to that which you can imagine.
02:30:12.000 You're preparing for that which you are conceptualizing.
02:30:15.000 So if the violence, the scale of violence is beyond your imagination, it means you haven't trained for this, you're not equipped for this, you're not ready for this.
02:30:23.000 And that's the fact.
02:30:24.000 NATO cannot fight Russia today and when.
02:30:27.000 That's a straight-up statement of fact.
02:30:29.000 Damn.
02:30:30.000 Okay.
02:30:31.000 All right.
02:30:31.000 It looks like we got an updated app here.
02:30:34.000 So Mo's going to show it on screen here.
02:30:36.000 Go ahead, Mo.
02:30:37.000 You can pull it up.
02:30:38.000 All right.
02:30:39.000 Go ahead.
02:30:39.000 So is there anything that you wanted to point out specifically, Scott?
02:30:44.000 And thank you, Ryan Dawson, for this one.
02:30:46.000 Oh, Ryan Dawson said that?
02:30:47.000 Okay.
02:30:48.000 But, I mean, this is what we're talking about.
02:30:50.000 This is Crimea.
02:30:51.000 This is what we call the land bridge.
02:30:54.000 Kherson, Zaporizhia areas.
02:30:57.000 This is Donetsk.
02:30:58.000 This is Lugansk.
02:30:59.000 You see the dotted line here is what the normal Republic of Donetsk is.
02:31:03.000 The green part is what the Russians occupied.
02:31:06.000 I mean, so the fighting today is roughly along this line here.
02:31:12.000 Coming down here.
02:31:13.000 And what the Russians are trying to do today is just advance to capture the totality of these territories.
02:31:19.000 That's all that Putin has talked about.
02:31:21.000 Okay, can you highlight that bottom right corner, Mo?
02:31:24.000 That's basically what they're trying to capture there.
02:31:26.000 Is that what you're talking about, Scott?
02:31:27.000 Yeah, this area here.
02:31:29.000 They're just trying to...
02:31:33.000 All the way down to Kyrsten, right?
02:31:35.000 No, no, no, no.
02:31:36.000 Most of your fighting right now is taken right here from Zaporizhia.
02:31:39.000 Zaporizhia, okay.
02:31:40.000 Highlight that area more?
02:31:41.000 Yeah, okay.
02:31:43.000 That's where most of the fighting is going on right now?
02:31:45.000 Yeah.
02:31:45.000 The Zaporizhia Front is where the big counteroffensive is taking place, and then Donetsk is the other area.
02:31:54.000 Okay.
02:31:55.000 All right.
02:31:56.000 And where's the Dunbar region that you were mentioning before, where they had soldiers set up and had to preemptively invade?
02:32:03.000 Well, Donetsk is the capital of the Donetsk Republic, and Lugansk is the capital of Lugansk.
02:32:09.000 Lugansk and Donetsk, these two republics, this is considered to be the Donbass right here.
02:32:14.000 Okay.
02:32:15.000 So, Mo, it's that entire region, like, on the right corner, pretty much.
02:32:18.000 Yeah, like that.
02:32:21.000 Yeah.
02:32:21.000 Up a little bit bigger with the circle.
02:32:23.000 Yeah, that, like, area right there.
02:32:24.000 Bam.
02:32:24.000 Perfect.
02:32:25.000 Yep.
02:32:25.000 That's it, Mo.
02:32:26.000 Yeah, that's the area that...
02:32:27.000 Okay.
02:32:28.000 So that's where Zelensky had about a quarter million soldiers staged and Putin preemptively stopped them.
02:32:35.000 There was a...
02:32:35.000 Planning for March, you said, right?
02:32:37.000 And then Putin invaded...
02:32:38.000 There was a missile attack just the other day in a town called...
02:32:40.000 A city called Kramatorsk, I think it was.
02:32:46.000 The restaurant that got hit, the pizzeria.
02:32:49.000 Yeah.
02:32:49.000 And the video that's showing, you've got a bunch of mercenaries, a bunch of American, British, Canadian guys in uniform.
02:32:57.000 They're trying to dig bodies out.
02:32:59.000 It was the staging area of the 56th Motorized Rifle Battalion.
02:33:05.000 But that city, Kramogorsk, is the city that was the heart of the Ukrainian buildup to lead the attack into Domas.
02:33:12.000 Gotcha.
02:33:13.000 Question for you.
02:33:14.000 What do you think in your professional training experience from what you've seen, understanding how war works and how this...
02:33:22.000 I mean, we went through the entire history, guys, so make sure to check him out on Twitter.
02:33:26.000 His links are all below, man.
02:33:27.000 Literally an encyclopedia.
02:33:28.000 You and Ryan Dawson are encyclopedias with this stuff.
02:33:31.000 I learned so much.
02:33:32.000 What do you predict is going to happen in the next six months to a year with this conflict?
02:33:39.000 If the conflict continues...
02:33:42.000 At this rate, the Ukrainian military is probably going to collapse sometime late summer, early fall.
02:33:49.000 There's just no way Ukraine can continue this fight.
02:33:52.000 Of this summer, this year?
02:33:54.000 Yeah.
02:33:55.000 Wow.
02:33:56.000 Now, there's no guarantee on that outcome because, again, I just point out that, you know, even though the Ukrainians lost 13,000 dead, the Russians lost 1,300.
02:34:08.000 That's big pain.
02:34:08.000 Yeah.
02:34:09.000 It is, yeah.
02:34:11.000 I have a feeling, though, that the Russians aren't going to throttle down, that they will throttle up.
02:34:18.000 And I also think the Russians understand that time is not their friend.
02:34:23.000 The Russians?
02:34:24.000 You're saying time isn't French for the Russians or the Ukrainians?
02:34:27.000 For the Russians.
02:34:28.000 Because if they can't seal the deal on the defeat of the Ukrainian army, this war runs the risk of becoming what they call a frozen war.
02:34:37.000 Like the Korean War with a demilitarized zone that will be a forever conflict, that will be a forever drain on Russia.
02:34:44.000 Okay.
02:34:45.000 I thought Russia had time because they have the resources and the manpower and Well, I mean, Russia is a big country with resources right now, but if the West ever gets its act together and starts mobilizing its defense industry so that it can perpetually supply Ukraine,
02:35:03.000 and Ukraine shows a tolerance for casualties.
02:35:06.000 Remember, Ukraine is a nation of, you know, 40 million people.
02:35:10.000 There's more people to kill.
02:35:14.000 There's a potential that you could exhaust Russia.
02:35:17.000 Not that Russia would lose, but that Russia would eventually have to sue for peace because it can't sustain.
02:35:23.000 So I think there's pressure on Russia to bring an end to this conflict sooner rather than later.
02:35:29.000 But Russia's not going to do it in a way that generates high casualties.
02:35:33.000 Okay.
02:35:34.000 Russia doesn't want...
02:35:35.000 Damn.
02:35:35.000 So that kind of...
02:35:36.000 Okay.
02:35:36.000 Russia doesn't want to...
02:35:37.000 High casualties on their part.
02:35:39.000 That's what I mean.
02:35:39.000 No, no.
02:35:39.000 Of course.
02:35:40.000 Yeah.
02:35:40.000 They want to kill as many Ukrainians as possible.
02:35:42.000 As long as they want to die, Russia's going to help them die.
02:35:42.000 Yeah.
02:35:45.000 Yeah.
02:35:45.000 But the Russians don't want to do it in a way that...
02:35:48.000 Increases their casualties.
02:35:50.000 So a lot of people are like, well, why aren't the Russians attacking?
02:35:52.000 Why aren't they being aggressive?
02:35:53.000 I just answered the question, guys.
02:35:54.000 Because to be aggressive in the face of an enemy that can still mount the Ukrainians as much as they're dying, they're still lethal.
02:36:01.000 They killed 1,300 Russians.
02:36:04.000 So when you see those videos on TV that everybody searches that show the Ukrainians breaking into a Russian trench line and killing Russians, yeah, that's war, guys.
02:36:14.000 There's a video of that.
02:36:16.000 Oh, yeah.
02:36:16.000 On Twitter?
02:36:18.000 Twitter, Telegram.
02:36:20.000 But the point is, war is hell.
02:36:22.000 And it's a two-way street.
02:36:24.000 People are dying on both sides.
02:36:26.000 It's just that more Ukrainians are dying than Russians.
02:36:28.000 But this isn't like the Russians are sitting back playing Call of Duty and killing.
02:36:33.000 This is bloody.
02:36:34.000 This is horrible.
02:36:35.000 This is horrific.
02:36:35.000 Let me ask you this.
02:36:36.000 I think I know the answer to this, but for the people out there, right?
02:36:39.000 Why hasn't Russia just...
02:36:42.000 Airstrike them to fucking hell.
02:36:44.000 And then done what we did with Iraq.
02:36:46.000 Airstrike them to hell, have the ground troops come in, clean up.
02:36:48.000 Why haven't they done that?
02:36:49.000 Well, they're going to.
02:36:51.000 They're moving in that direction.
02:36:52.000 But here's the thing that people, again, Putin's talking points.
02:36:56.000 You're a Putin puppet, Ritter.
02:36:58.000 But if you scratch a Russian, you get a Ukrainian.
02:37:03.000 If you scratch a Ukrainian, you get a Russian.
02:37:06.000 These are both Slavic peoples.
02:37:08.000 There's a huge Ukrainian diaspora in Russia.
02:37:12.000 Every city has thousands of Ukrainians.
02:37:15.000 Every Russian has a Ukrainian relative.
02:37:18.000 The Russian military, if you're a rank colonel and higher, you went to school with Ukrainian officers who were Soviet officers at the time.
02:37:27.000 These are your brothers.
02:37:30.000 So the Russians are at war with themselves.
02:37:33.000 I'll give you an example.
02:37:34.000 It comes from Wagner.
02:37:35.000 The Wagner group fighting in Bakhmut.
02:37:38.000 They surrounded a group of Ukrainian soldiers and they shouted out, brothers, surrender!
02:37:42.000 Surrender and you can live!
02:37:44.000 These are Ukrainian soldiers.
02:37:46.000 You know what the Ukrainian soldiers shouted back?
02:37:48.000 What?
02:37:48.000 Russians don't surrender.
02:37:51.000 That's from World War II. Wow.
02:37:53.000 That was a shout that a Russian soldier gave to the Germans when they said, surrender.
02:37:57.000 He said, Russians don't surrender.
02:37:59.000 He had a grenade and he blew himself up.
02:38:01.000 Wow.
02:38:02.000 And these guys fought to the death.
02:38:03.000 These are Ukrainian soldiers fighting Russians, saying, Russians don't surrender.
02:38:08.000 Wow.
02:38:09.000 You know, we talk about how tough the Russians are.
02:38:11.000 The Ukrainians are just as tough.
02:38:12.000 They're the same people.
02:38:14.000 It's the same people, with the exception of these Western Ukrainian Nazis who The rest of Ukrainians are Russians.
02:38:21.000 Yeah.
02:38:22.000 That's something that no one wants to admit, though.
02:38:24.000 They don't want to talk about this.
02:38:25.000 This is a civil war.
02:38:27.000 And so, the idea, again...
02:38:29.000 I agree.
02:38:30.000 It is a civil war.
02:38:31.000 It's like, if we're going to give an American functional equivalent, it's like Florida fighting Texas.
02:38:36.000 Yeah.
02:38:37.000 Well, worse.
02:38:38.000 Florida fighting Georgia, where across the border you have families traveling together, or Alabama, where people vacation in Florida, you vacation in Mobile, and your cousin was from...
02:38:50.000 That's the functional equivalent for guys out here that might not understand, you know, Eastern European politics and geopolitical situations.
02:38:56.000 That's what the equivalent would be.
02:38:58.000 Crazy.
02:38:59.000 This is a tragedy.
02:39:02.000 You know, Putin said from the very beginning that he...
02:39:07.000 Ordered his troops not to inflict unnecessary casualties on the Ukrainians.
02:39:13.000 Not to destroy Ukrainian infrastructure.
02:39:15.000 If we went to war, if the United States had done this, Zelensky would be dead by now.
02:39:19.000 Yeah.
02:39:19.000 Yeah, we would have airstriked him to hell.
02:39:21.000 I already told you, one of my jobs in the Gulf War was to kill Saddam.
02:39:24.000 All right?
02:39:25.000 So we actively targeted him.
02:39:26.000 I actively targeted him.
02:39:29.000 And we blew the hell out of the Iraqi leadership.
02:39:32.000 Yeah.
02:39:32.000 We also blew up their bridges.
02:39:34.000 We blew up their infrastructure.
02:39:37.000 Russia has taken a soft approach on this one.
02:39:39.000 They want to capture it intact.
02:39:41.000 Well, they don't want to inflict harm, because at some point in time, this war is going to end, and then their brothers have to learn to live in what's left.
02:39:47.000 But the longer this war goes on, the more the Russians are starting to make the pain come down.
02:39:52.000 Because they have to pay for it at the end.
02:39:55.000 The Russians will.
02:39:56.000 They understand that.
02:39:57.000 If you burn down your brother's house, eventually you have to rebuild it.
02:40:02.000 But what the Russians now are doing is they are bringing in the air power.
02:40:06.000 This is why Ukrainian casualties are going through the roof now, because the Russians are saying, okay, it's time that we end this.
02:40:15.000 I was telling people this from the beginning when they said that Russia is losing the war, whatever.
02:40:18.000 I remember like a year ago saying like, you guys do realize that if Putin wanted to, you could have airstriked Ukraine to hell and they'd be gone in 24 hours.
02:40:25.000 But, you know, I don't know.
02:40:27.000 People just we have the propaganda machine with the news.
02:40:30.000 The United States is so anti Putin.
02:40:32.000 It's ridiculous where it's like people are delusional and completely unaware of what the hell is going on.
02:40:37.000 You know, you hear this, again, going back to Purgosian and the coup that took place.
02:40:42.000 People are saying, well, Putin's weak because he didn't kill all the Wagner guys.
02:40:46.000 And I'm like, Putin's strong because he didn't start a civil war.
02:40:49.000 Putin's strong because he saved Russian lives.
02:40:52.000 Putin's strong because he didn't promote Russian-on-Russian violence.
02:40:56.000 Putin's strong because- Which is what NATO wants.
02:40:58.000 Yes.
02:40:58.000 But because Putin's strong, we have to tell lies about Putin and call him weak.
02:41:03.000 So when Putin comes in with a special military operation that's not designed to invade, to destroy, but to generate peace.
02:41:10.000 Remember I told you the purpose of it was to get Ukraine to the negotiating table.
02:41:14.000 Yeah.
02:41:16.000 We misinterpret that.
02:41:17.000 We said he's weak.
02:41:18.000 There ain't nothing weak about Putin and there ain't nothing weak about Russia.
02:41:22.000 Let me ask you this, and this has been kind of contained in the U.S. media as well.
02:41:26.000 Didn't they find biological weapons in Ukraine?
02:41:29.000 Well...
02:41:29.000 Contrary to the Minsk agreements?
02:41:31.000 Well, the Minsk agreements had nothing to do with the biological...
02:41:34.000 The biological...
02:41:35.000 Let me put it this way.
02:41:37.000 Or agreements that we had in place before where we said we would not encroach in Ukraine.
02:41:40.000 Ukraine would not become a part of NATO. We wouldn't continue to encroach on Russia, and we wouldn't have biological weapons staged there.
02:41:46.000 Yeah, here's the deal.
02:41:48.000 When the Soviet Union collapsed...
02:41:51.000 The former Soviet republics had nuclear weapons programs, biological weapons programs, chemical weapons programs that we needed to bring under control.
02:42:00.000 One of the biggest fears is that when the Soviet collapsed, their economies collapsed, and you have all these scientists.
02:42:05.000 Well, not just the weapons, but the scientists that know how to build the weapons.
02:42:09.000 And if they don't have a job, They're going to go someplace else and do it.
02:42:28.000 We signed agreements with the Ukrainian government where we came in and we took over the former biological weapons labs.
02:42:34.000 And we cleaned them up.
02:42:36.000 The idea was to clean them up, get rid of the weapons.
02:42:39.000 But then we had to create employment vehicles for the scientists, keep them employed.
02:42:43.000 So we began things such as researching viruses.
02:42:46.000 And that's normal.
02:42:47.000 I mean, we do it.
02:42:48.000 Right now in Florida, people are...
02:42:51.000 We have people collecting the mosquitoes and looking at the mosquitoes to make sure they're not bringing in a new virus.
02:42:56.000 We're trying to anticipate problems.
02:42:58.000 And if they bring in something, then we have a lab that tries to create vaccines and all this stuff.
02:43:03.000 So we have all this going.
02:43:05.000 And that's how this started.
02:43:07.000 This started with legitimate biological work.
02:43:09.000 It's not biological warfare work.
02:43:11.000 It's biological work.
02:43:12.000 But then what happened is Money.
02:43:17.000 This is corruption.
02:43:18.000 Money corrupts everything.
02:43:19.000 So we did this through contractors who received money, came up with an idea.
02:43:25.000 Now they're trying to do other projects and they're getting shot down.
02:43:28.000 But every time they came back in and said, let's build a biological lab, they got the money.
02:43:33.000 So they started building these biological labs.
02:43:35.000 But now you have the lab and you have to have work to do.
02:43:38.000 In America being America, we started expanding the envelope of what was...
02:43:43.000 In America, we contend that we don't have an offensive biological weapons program even though we produce biological agent.
02:43:52.000 But what we say is we're producing that biological agent for defensive purposes.
02:43:57.000 Well, once you produce a biological agent, it's a biological agent.
02:44:01.000 You can't have it.
02:44:04.000 Because we're America, we say, well, we know what our intent is.
02:44:08.000 We know we're in violation of the Biological Toxin and Weapons Convention.
02:44:12.000 That's 100% guaranteed.
02:44:14.000 What we did in Ukraine is a violation of the treaty of that.
02:44:18.000 Our arrogance gets in the way.
02:44:20.000 We don't admit that we're violating it because we pretend.
02:44:22.000 But the fact is, we were producing...
02:44:29.000 We were considering vectors that would send them from Ukraine into Russia to spread these diseases.
02:44:37.000 Now, we'll say there was only theoretical modeling, that it was just part of our overall thing.
02:44:42.000 But if you're the Russians looking at this, you're saying, you're preparing to launch a biological warfare attack on us.
02:44:47.000 You're preparing for biological war.
02:44:49.000 And the Russians are right.
02:44:51.000 They're right to be concerned about that.
02:44:53.000 So what we as Americans should be doing is demanding from Congress an investigation.
02:44:59.000 We should be demanding that...
02:45:01.000 Didn't they bring this to the UN a couple months back?
02:45:04.000 Yeah, and the U.S. wouldn't let it be discussed.
02:45:06.000 Wow.
02:45:27.000 We shut it down.
02:45:31.000 All right.
02:45:33.000 I think I definitely want to talk about...
02:45:35.000 Oh, I'll read these chats.
02:45:36.000 And then, guys, we're going to switch on over to Rumble because I want to talk about some more sensitive topics that we definitely can't talk about here on YouTube.
02:45:41.000 The stuff that we discussed before.
02:45:43.000 And like the video.
02:45:44.000 Hey, guys, do me a favor.
02:45:45.000 Like the video.
02:45:45.000 We got over 10,000 y'all watching, by the way.
02:45:47.000 We got like 5,000, almost 6,000 y'all here on YouTube.
02:45:51.000 And then we got like another...
02:45:53.000 6k on Rumble.
02:45:54.000 So we're going to move over to Rumble here very shortly, guys, because I got some questions I want to ask and some discussions that include why the Western media hates Putin so much, which I have a theory on that, which I can't talk about on YouTube.
02:46:05.000 Why we're going to talk about the Trump situation with...
02:46:09.000 With, obviously, the classified documents and his foreign policy, because I definitely want to talk about why we went to war with Russia with Biden in office versus not Trump in office, and I think there's some things we want to talk about that as well.
02:46:23.000 So, DJ Cogdill goes court-martial Mark Milley, Ryan Dawson.
02:46:30.000 Who's Mark Miley?
02:46:31.000 He's the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
02:46:33.000 Okay, okay.
02:46:34.000 Shout out to Ryan Dawson, by the way, man.
02:46:36.000 The fucking homie.
02:46:37.000 Ryan Dawson actually is who put us together, man.
02:46:39.000 So shout out to Ryan Dawson.
02:46:40.000 I'm going to have him on tomorrow.
02:46:41.000 We're going to talk about 9-11.
02:46:42.000 There you go.
02:46:43.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:46:44.000 Talk about getting banned.
02:46:45.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:46:46.000 We do that one on Rumble.
02:46:47.000 And thank you again, Ryan, for the match.
02:46:49.000 Yeah, thank you, Ryan, for the map, man.
02:46:50.000 Shout out to Ryan Dawson, guys.
02:46:52.000 Trevon Suki goes, Professor Ritter, this proxy war just sounds like sending lambs to the slaughter.
02:46:58.000 So is West's goal just to slow down Russia in its growth?
02:47:02.000 The Russians are making smart global moves by investing in African countries and extracting resources.
02:47:08.000 Yeah, well, the West's goal is to destroy Russia.
02:47:10.000 Yeah.
02:47:10.000 And Russia is winning because their goal is to not just survive, but thrive.
02:47:15.000 And look what he's saying.
02:47:17.000 The Russians are...
02:47:19.000 Can you talk real quick about some of the steps that Russia took preemptively back in 2014 when they first faced the sanctions to prepare themselves for 2022?
02:47:28.000 I know buying gold was a big thing they did.
02:47:30.000 Again, when I say I'm not a gold guy, it means I'm not smart enough to understand gold.
02:47:37.000 If I was, I'd be rich.
02:47:39.000 But the Russians understand gold.
02:47:41.000 They understand the value of gold.
02:47:43.000 And the Russians have spent a lot of time trying to reduce their debt load, buy gold, get sufficient gold reserves, etc.
02:47:51.000 Turn their economy into an economy that could survive a shock from the United States if the United States tried to separate it from the global economy.
02:48:00.000 The Russians were well positioned to survive the sanctions.
02:48:05.000 They were better positioned.
02:48:06.000 Look, Putin himself was surprised.
02:48:08.000 He expected a 20% contraction in the Russian economy, and he got a 3% contraction.
02:48:13.000 Wow.
02:48:14.000 And today the Russian economy is growing.
02:48:15.000 And the ruble has been going up, so you can't dispute that their economy hasn't gotten better.
02:48:18.000 No, trust me, I was just there.
02:48:20.000 Their economy's doing okay.
02:48:21.000 Yeah, man.
02:48:24.000 Thank you, Trevon.
02:48:25.000 Good question.
02:48:25.000 Rams goes, talk about BRICS agreement and the possible effect in the near future.
02:48:30.000 Okay, we'll talk about that on Rumble.
02:48:33.000 And then we got here, come on, 50 bucks, scratching the bottom of the barrel on this one.
02:48:38.000 Conspiracies on everything.
02:48:39.000 Everything is conspiracy.
02:48:40.000 The Flat Earthers next.
02:48:42.000 So I think that's critical of us.
02:48:44.000 Okay, I guess.
02:48:45.000 So scratching the barrel of my bottle on this one.
02:48:47.000 So I'm the bottom of the barrel.
02:48:48.000 I guess so.
02:48:49.000 That's okay.
02:48:50.000 The haters are going to hate, man.
02:48:51.000 I mean, I'm still yet to see anyone come up with a convincing argument for a lot of the things you've said here.
02:48:55.000 All the people that say that you're a pulling puppet.
02:48:58.000 All right, so guys, come on over to Rumble.
02:49:00.000 Let's throw it in the chat, Mo, real quick.
02:49:03.000 Can you tell the people, just for the YouTube, guys, we're going to go to Rumble right now, so come on over to Rumble, rumble.com slash freshfit, because I got some stuff here that's more sensitive than I want to talk about that definitely ain't going to be safe for YouTube.
02:49:12.000 Where can people find you real quick before we go over to the Rumble audience?
02:49:16.000 The best way to get me is on scottriderextra.com.
02:49:19.000 Link is below.
02:49:20.000 That's a one-shop stop.
02:49:21.000 There's no paywall, so you can get there.
02:49:25.000 Everything I write is available.
02:49:26.000 Any podcast I do that is linked is available.
02:49:30.000 If you want to subscribe, it would be greatly appreciated, but like I said, there's no paywall.
02:49:36.000 I'm on Twitter at TheRealScottRitter.
02:49:41.000 And I just got back on.
02:49:42.000 I was banned for a number of months by Elon Musk.
02:49:45.000 But he lifted the ban.
02:49:47.000 So thank you, Elon.
02:49:48.000 What did they take you down for?
02:49:51.000 Well, the one time they took me...
02:49:53.000 I was taking down, you know, three strikes, you're out in Twitterdom.
02:49:57.000 The first time I got taken out because I allegedly had dead-named somebody.
02:50:01.000 Chelsea...
02:50:02.000 Well, that's a term, I guess, for transgendered, if you use their old name.
02:50:06.000 Chelsea Manning is somebody who has transitioned, I guess.
02:50:12.000 But...
02:50:13.000 Back when Chelsea was Bradley Manning, documents were filed related to the allegations of espionage, etc.
02:50:23.000 But the documents were filed as Bradley Manning.
02:50:26.000 So I made a reference to the legal document only in the context of the time, but I was accused of deadnaming.
02:50:32.000 So they banned me that.
02:50:33.000 The second time was for the Butcher Massacre, north of Kiev, the suburb.
02:50:40.000 We'll talk about that on Rumble.
02:50:42.000 Okay, well, the Ukrainians...
02:50:43.000 The bottom line is I sent out a tweet that said Ukraine did it, so I was banned.
02:50:47.000 And then the third time, I appeared on the Alex Jones show.
02:50:50.000 And just simply by appearing on the Alex Jones show, I was banned.
02:50:54.000 Oh, my God.
02:50:54.000 Okay.
02:50:56.000 All right, guys.
02:50:57.000 Come on over to Rumble.
02:50:57.000 He's Scott Ritter.
02:50:58.000 This is YouTube, of course, so we're going to keep it somewhat watered down, but we're going to go to Rumble right now.
02:51:02.000 So come on over, guys.
02:51:03.000 Come on over right now.
02:51:04.000 Like the video.
02:51:05.000 Subscribe to the channel if you guys haven't already.
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02:51:11.000 Alright, cool.
02:51:12.000 We're on Rumble.
02:51:14.000 So, Butchamasker, can you break that down for the people real quick, what it was?
02:51:20.000 I mean, you said Ukraine was behind it, but...
02:51:22.000 Well, let's just start with the fact that, as I told you, when the Russians first went in, their goal was to shock the Ukrainians into negotiating a peaceful...
02:51:32.000 Yeah.
02:51:52.000 And then people in civilian clothes were taking the Russian positions and then transmitting them to Ukrainians via telegram so that artillery would strike.
02:52:03.000 And so the Russians captured a number of these people, found that they were violating war crimes, and they executed them, which they're allowed to do.
02:52:11.000 I'm not justifying, I'm just saying they did that.
02:52:15.000 So that's the civilians that the Russians killed.
02:52:18.000 I told you that the Russians, in a good faith move, withdrew voluntarily.
02:52:22.000 So in the end of March, they withdrew from the Bucha area.
02:52:29.000 There were elements of people there, spoke Russian, ethnic Russians, who were nervous when the Russians left, so they were trying to follow the Russians.
02:52:38.000 Behind the Russians came Ukrainian police units.
02:52:46.000 Nazis.
02:52:47.000 The Safari unit.
02:52:48.000 The Kraken unit.
02:52:50.000 And they said we're going to...
02:52:52.000 And you can say whatever you want to say.
02:52:52.000 We're on Rumble, so...
02:52:53.000 They said we're going to ethnically...
02:52:55.000 Well, not ethnically.
02:52:56.000 What they said is we're going to...
02:52:58.000 We have a cleansing operation in place.
02:53:00.000 On their webpage, they said, everybody stay home.
02:53:03.000 Stay indoors.
02:53:04.000 If you hear shooting, don't panic.
02:53:05.000 We have a cleansing operation against Russian collaborators and traitors.
02:53:10.000 And...
02:53:11.000 The cleansing was against the people who were trying to make it to the Russian lines.
02:53:15.000 People who were wearing the white armbands that says...
02:53:17.000 Ah, the fucking neo-Nazis again.
02:53:18.000 No, the white armbands are the guys saying we're sympathetic to Russia.
02:53:22.000 Don't shoot me, Russia.
02:53:22.000 Oh, okay, okay, okay.
02:53:23.000 So they're coming to the Russians with the white armbands.
02:53:24.000 But it was the Nazis that were coming to kill them.
02:53:26.000 The Nazis killed them.
02:53:29.000 Gunned them down in the streets.
02:53:30.000 These are guys that were carrying Russian...
02:53:32.000 Food packages.
02:53:33.000 They had their white armbands.
02:53:35.000 They're slaughtered.
02:53:36.000 Everybody knew what was going on.
02:53:38.000 You had a Ukrainian politician from Bucha bragging about it.
02:53:41.000 You had a video of the safari unit, a guy named the boatswain.
02:53:47.000 There's a video where they say, hey, look, they're not wearing the Ukrainian things.
02:53:50.000 Can we shoot them?
02:53:51.000 He said, kill them.
02:53:52.000 And they're shooting them.
02:53:53.000 So we know the Ukrainians did it.
02:53:55.000 But the British came in and said, no, no, no, we're going to use this as propaganda.
02:53:59.000 We have to flip the script because we need to generate angst and anger because you just walked away from a peace treaty in Istanbul.
02:54:06.000 And we don't want people talking about why you walked away from the peace treaty.
02:54:10.000 We want people talking about how evil the Russians are.
02:54:13.000 So Buccia became the symbol of I think?
02:54:35.000 I talked about this with Ryan Dawson.
02:54:37.000 I want to get your take on it.
02:54:39.000 Because I've always wondered why the Western media hates Putin so much.
02:54:44.000 They demonize him.
02:54:45.000 They make him out to be a terrible person, etc.
02:54:48.000 Which, of course, every person that is in power has blood on their hands to some degree.
02:54:53.000 You're always going to have to do something to get to power in the first place, right?
02:54:58.000 But what I've realized, and I think Ryan's probably in the chat here, and of course you're going to agree to disagree here.
02:55:05.000 What I've been told with these discussions is that when Putin took power in the 90s, or after the Soviet Union collapse, he got rid of certain oligarchs, right?
02:55:16.000 And he got rid of the oligarchs that had other countries' interests in mind, if you know what I mean.
02:55:22.000 I'm talking Zionists, etc., These guys left, maybe they went to Ukraine, went back to Israel, whatever it may be, and the United States.
02:55:31.000 And then we know that the media in the United States is run by certain people, right?
02:55:36.000 And those people have a vested interest in demonizing Putin because he kicked out a lot of these Zionist oligarchs.
02:55:44.000 What's your take on that?
02:55:46.000 Do you agree?
02:55:47.000 Disagree?
02:55:48.000 Some true to it, not.
02:55:49.000 Well, what I'll say is this, that the United States had a system of controlling Russia in the 1990s built around Boris Yeltsin and his ability to be manipulated.
02:56:01.000 He was a weak man, an alcoholic.
02:56:04.000 He was the former president of Russia.
02:56:08.000 He was also corrupt as the day is long.
02:56:14.000 A lot of the oligarchs in Russia were Jewish.
02:56:18.000 But I don't view that as a conspiracy, I just view that as a statement of fact.
02:56:24.000 They were Jewish.
02:56:25.000 Look, Israeli-American interests often coincide.
02:56:34.000 Not all the time, but a lot of times they do.
02:56:35.000 Especially when it comes to economic exploitation of Russia, there was a lot of coinciding there.
02:56:43.000 Don't forget also that...
02:56:44.000 Is it true that Putin got rid of most of them?
02:56:47.000 Well, he did crack down.
02:56:49.000 What happened, too, is during the 1990s, almost two million Russian and Ukrainian Jews went to Israel and changed the makeup of Israel.
02:56:59.000 So there's connectivity all over the place there.
02:57:03.000 When Putin came in, he threatened all of that because what Putin was going to do is make Russia for Russia.
02:57:11.000 He was tired of having Russia have its resources stripped away by other entities, including oligarchs that had...
02:57:28.000 And this is why he gets criticized so much.
02:57:35.000 If you're going to be America, you cannot be a Zionist and then also say America first.
02:57:39.000 I agree.
02:57:39.000 It doesn't make sense.
02:57:40.000 Because if you're a Zionist, then obviously your interest is in the self-preservation of Israel, which is cool.
02:57:46.000 That's fine.
02:57:46.000 But you can't sit there and say that you're a patriot at the same time because a lot of the times...
02:57:52.000 A lot of times our interests don't necessarily always coincide.
02:57:55.000 And I'll argue that we've done things here in the United States for the benefit of Israel, where we didn't necessarily derive the same level of benefit, but we put in way more resources, way more effort.
02:58:05.000 And saying shit like this on YouTube will get you canceled, which is crazy.
02:58:08.000 But you cannot be a Zionist while simultaneously saying you're an American patriot.
02:58:13.000 It's one of the two.
02:58:14.000 It's split loyalties.
02:58:15.000 Yeah, split loyalties.
02:58:16.000 My freshman year in college...
02:58:18.000 But they'll call you an anti-Semitic for saying that, which I think is wild.
02:58:20.000 My freshman roommate in college was a guy who had just finished doing his military service in Israel.
02:58:28.000 And I had just left the U.S. Army.
02:58:31.000 And so I'm sitting there going, you know, I didn't disrespect his fact.
02:58:35.000 He made a decision, but he kept trying to tell me that he's an American.
02:58:39.000 I said, you're not an American.
02:58:41.000 He said, you were in the Israeli Army.
02:58:44.000 You're an Israeli.
02:58:45.000 You want to hear something else interesting?
02:58:46.000 You know this because you had a clearance.
02:58:49.000 If you have a clearance, in the United States, you cannot hold two different citizenships.
02:58:52.000 Unless you have an Israeli passport.
02:58:56.000 Israel's the only country they'll let you do that for?
02:58:57.000 And England.
02:58:59.000 Really?
02:59:00.000 Yeah.
02:59:01.000 I had a TS when I was with Homeland.
02:59:05.000 You probably had SEI? Yeah.
02:59:07.000 Okay.
02:59:07.000 And they let you hold the second passport if it's Israel?
02:59:11.000 Well, Israel, no, it's don't ask, don't tell.
02:59:14.000 Okay.
02:59:15.000 With England, if you had, if you were, to give you an example, Fiona Hill.
02:59:21.000 England makes sense because it's part of the Five Eyes, but Israel?
02:59:24.000 Israel, they...
02:59:25.000 To this day, you can still have...
02:59:26.000 Oh, I don't know about to this day.
02:59:28.000 Okay.
02:59:28.000 I don't know about to this day.
02:59:29.000 I think, because when I got my clearance, I got my clearance in 2010, and then I re-upped it all the way up to 2020.
02:59:38.000 And when I was going through for a TS, I don't know, it was like you can't have a citizenship with any other country.
02:59:44.000 So I look at it like even the American government understands that if you're America first, you're America first.
02:59:50.000 So you can't have another country's passport.
02:59:53.000 So maybe in the 90s it was different.
02:59:55.000 I don't know.
02:59:55.000 Or 80s.
02:59:57.000 Oh, 80s.
02:59:57.000 Sorry.
02:59:58.000 Although the 80s is a time of Pollard, Jonathan Pollard, the guy who...
03:00:05.000 The man who stole secrets and sold them to Israel.
03:00:09.000 No one talks about one of the worst American breaches ever.
03:00:14.000 They say Robert Hansen was one of the worst.
03:00:18.000 A disgraced FBI agent for some of you guys.
03:00:21.000 He actually died two weeks ago.
03:00:23.000 That sold secrets to the Russians.
03:00:25.000 Nobody cared.
03:00:26.000 He sold secrets to the Russians.
03:00:28.000 Obviously reprehensible.
03:00:29.000 However, Pollard way worse than Pollard gave what we call the crown jewels, which was basically, in the intelligence business...
03:00:41.000 And his handler was Israeli intelligence.
03:00:45.000 Yeah, working in the embassy and the whole thing.
03:00:49.000 He was an Israeli military officer running Pollard.
03:00:51.000 And he's in Israel right now.
03:00:52.000 Because we let him go.
03:00:53.000 What he gave away, in the intelligence business...
03:01:00.000 Frequencies are some of the most sensitive things, you know, because if you find a frequency that people are talking on and you break the code, you can't let anybody know that you did that or else they'll change frequencies, change the code.
03:01:15.000 And so what Pollard has was the book of all the things that we did accomplished in that area against the Soviets, against everybody.
03:01:23.000 And he gave it to the Israelis.
03:01:26.000 Then the Israelis sold it to the Russians.
03:01:29.000 Yes.
03:01:29.000 To get Jewish Russians out.
03:01:32.000 Yep.
03:01:33.000 And so the Russians then now found out what we can do.
03:01:37.000 99% of Americans don't even know who this guy is.
03:01:40.000 No.
03:01:40.000 Pollard betrayed America.
03:01:41.000 He's a traitor to the United States of America.
03:01:44.000 And I'll just tell you right now.
03:01:45.000 Would you say he's the most damaging spy in U.S. history?
03:01:48.000 No.
03:01:50.000 In order to make that definitive statement, I'd have to know everything that was out there.
03:01:55.000 I would say that based upon what he was accused of doing and based upon what I think I understand of what he gave, that's not an unreasonable assertion.
03:02:06.000 I think he was worse than Hansen.
03:02:07.000 Oh, yeah.
03:02:08.000 Hansen was...
03:02:08.000 But they went after Hansen because he did it for the Russians.
03:02:12.000 Yeah.
03:02:12.000 Anna Montez, the Cubans, right?
03:02:15.000 They went after her as well.
03:02:16.000 She got out of prison recently as well.
03:02:17.000 But Cuba isn't as bad as Russia.
03:02:19.000 I mean, Cubans are middlemen nine out of ten times.
03:02:21.000 They get the intelligence and they sell it to all our enemies.
03:02:24.000 Everybody.
03:02:25.000 But yeah, Hanson, they...
03:02:27.000 Pollard was bad news.
03:02:29.000 Yeah.
03:02:29.000 Bad news.
03:02:30.000 Look, the...
03:02:31.000 Hardcore Zionists.
03:02:32.000 I, you know, like I said, I went over to Israel quite a bit and I worked with them very closely.
03:02:39.000 But I'm under no illusions.
03:02:40.000 Yeah.
03:02:41.000 That we were allies of convenience.
03:02:47.000 And what we shared, we shared because it was mutually beneficial to go after Iraq and Saddam.
03:02:57.000 They're nice people.
03:02:58.000 I'm not going to speak ill of them.
03:03:00.000 I enjoyed socializing with them, etc.
03:03:05.000 Yeah.
03:03:21.000 We're no longer my friends.
03:03:24.000 The APAC, the American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee, they would...
03:03:32.000 I got an interesting little fact on them.
03:03:34.000 They would hound dog me.
03:03:37.000 What it means when I was going to members of Congress...
03:03:39.000 Did ADL come after you too?
03:03:41.000 Oh yeah, everybody came after me.
03:03:42.000 Oh my god.
03:03:43.000 I went to the American Congress.
03:03:44.000 I would go in and brief them on weapons of mass destruction, trying to make the case that there's no work.
03:03:49.000 I was followed by an AIPAC team.
03:03:52.000 And as soon as I left, they went in.
03:03:54.000 And they would remind each congressman that their election was at risk if they listened to what I had to say.
03:04:01.000 Dude, people don't understand how much lobbying power Israel has in American politics.
03:04:10.000 It's incredible.
03:04:11.000 Like, AIPAC, they have it on their website that 95% of their candidates that win their general elections are AIPAC-backed.
03:04:19.000 Yeah.
03:04:20.000 The biggest threat AIPAC can do is say that we're going to not just withdraw funding from you, but we're going to primary you.
03:04:28.000 And if you're a congressman who is running for election every two years, primary is the worst thing because it exhausts you and it bankrupts you and it's just disruptive.
03:04:39.000 So what you want, when you get AIPAC on your side, that means you get more money, no primary, And you sort of slide in.
03:04:47.000 That's how you stay to become an incumbent.
03:04:49.000 So be rest assured that almost every long-term incumbent that you see in the U.S. Congress has AIPAC backing.
03:04:57.000 Yeah, absolutely.
03:04:58.000 And I mean, you know, shout out to Ryan Dawson.
03:05:00.000 He talks about this.
03:05:00.000 Grant F. Smith talks about this, about, you know, Israel's extreme influence over American politics.
03:05:06.000 And I'll give another one.
03:05:07.000 This is a very controversial saying.
03:05:08.000 I didn't used to buy into it.
03:05:10.000 And I have to be honest, I don't...
03:05:12.000 I have trouble making such a blanket statement because you hear...
03:05:16.000 All this talk about, you know, American media being controlled by Jewish interests.
03:05:21.000 And, you know, for me to make such a blanket statement sounds pretty anti-Semitic to me.
03:05:26.000 So I've always hesitated.
03:05:28.000 I mean, I understand.
03:05:29.000 You can show me all the lists of names, and I've seen them all, and I'm like, yep, there's a lot of Jewish people in there and all that, but...
03:05:35.000 Here's the thing.
03:05:37.000 When I was speaking out on Iraq, well, when I first started, when I first resigned, I was a hero to the Israelis.
03:05:46.000 I was a hero to AIPAC. AIPAC wanted to bring me in and speak at their conventions.
03:05:51.000 They sponsored, they wanted to get me jobs with the American Enterprise Institute, the whole thing.
03:05:57.000 They loved me.
03:05:58.000 I was the love child of AIPAC. But what I found, too, is that every place I went, In the media world, because I was doing the rounds, CBS, ABC, CNN, Fox.
03:06:11.000 There were APEC people everywhere.
03:06:13.000 So the cameraman, he's like, hey, Scott, you know, let me give you my card.
03:06:16.000 Let me give you my other card.
03:06:18.000 The other card was an APEC card.
03:06:20.000 The producer.
03:06:21.000 APEC. They were everywhere.
03:06:24.000 APAC controls the media, or at least has their pulse on the media.
03:06:30.000 And then when my position flipped, all those people are now working against me.
03:06:41.000 I'm just, again, I don't want to be too conspiracy theory here.
03:06:46.000 I'm speaking purely circumstantial evidence, but I cannot deny that in a limited period of time, when I was heavily exposed to American media, that AIPAC had an overwhelming presence in the media industry,
03:07:04.000 and that that could work to your favor.
03:07:07.000 Absolutely.
03:07:11.000 Yeah.
03:07:29.000 My thing is, we talk about all topics.
03:07:32.000 We just talked about Iraq for an extended period of time.
03:07:34.000 The United States, etc.
03:07:35.000 We're critical of many countries.
03:07:36.000 Russia, we talked about Russia's failures and Ukraine's failures.
03:07:39.000 But for some odd reason, if you criticize...
03:07:43.000 Anyone from Israel, they'll immediately label you anti-Semitic, which I think is kind of crazy.
03:07:48.000 It's like, bro, you can't criticize them, and if you do, kind of like what you saw, well, you were on our side when you were inspecting Iraq, and we had our interests aligned, but once interests aren't aligned anymore, oh, fuck you, man.
03:08:00.000 I mean, I will give it to them.
03:08:02.000 They absolutely love their country and will do anything for their country.
03:08:07.000 They will do anything for Israel.
03:08:08.000 You gotta respect their patriotism.
03:08:09.000 Yeah, you gotta respect it.
03:08:10.000 No, I... They'll put Israel above the United States.
03:08:14.000 They do put Israel above the United States.
03:08:17.000 They absolutely do it.
03:08:19.000 I spoke at...
03:08:22.000 There's two big American Jewish groups.
03:08:24.000 The American Jewish Congress is one, and I don't know what the other one.
03:08:27.000 I think I spoke at the American Jewish Congress.
03:08:30.000 But it was down in the South.
03:08:33.000 Huge audience.
03:08:34.000 I was invited to speak when I was being promoted as a pro-Israeli guy.
03:08:41.000 But then my position changed.
03:08:43.000 So I'm speaking for them.
03:08:44.000 They were polite.
03:08:45.000 I give them this.
03:08:46.000 But in the question and answer period, The guy basically got up mad because I was advocating that Iran didn't have a nuclear weapons program and that Iran wasn't a threat to Israel and all that kind of stuff.
03:08:58.000 And this guy got up and basically called me an anti-Semite.
03:09:03.000 Oh, God.
03:09:03.000 And so my response was...
03:09:05.000 That's their response to anything that is like...
03:09:07.000 I said, with all due respect, where were you in February 1991?
03:09:16.000 Hmm.
03:09:17.000 Where were you?
03:09:19.000 And I said, were you in Israel?
03:09:21.000 He said, no.
03:09:22.000 I said, were you in the United States?
03:09:25.000 Yes.
03:09:26.000 I said, but Israel is at war.
03:09:27.000 Why weren't you in Israel defending Israel?
03:09:29.000 Yeah.
03:09:30.000 He said, well, I said, well, do you know where I was?
03:09:33.000 I was in the deserts of Western Iraq trying to stop fucking scuds from landing on fucking Israel.
03:09:38.000 You call me fucking anti-Semitic, I'll come down and fucking rip your head off.
03:09:42.000 Bam.
03:09:42.000 Yo, you son of a bitch.
03:09:44.000 I put more on the line for Israel than you ever have.
03:09:47.000 You ran away when Israel was at war.
03:09:48.000 You're a fucking coward.
03:09:50.000 So don't come at me with this anti-Semitic bullshit.
03:09:53.000 I'm the guy that went to fucking Israel, put my life on the line to get intelligence to find Saddam Hussein's weapons.
03:09:58.000 I've been struggling nonstop to make sure that Iraq could never again develop missile capability to strike Israel.
03:10:04.000 And you call me fucking anti-Semitic.
03:10:06.000 And now what I'm trying to do is prevent a situation where Iran develops weapons to strike Israel.
03:10:12.000 And you call me anti-Semitic.
03:10:14.000 I'm the best fucking friend Israel ever had.
03:10:16.000 And you call me anti-Semitic.
03:10:18.000 Kiss my anti-Semitic ass.
03:10:24.000 That's the truth.
03:10:25.000 You boots on the fucking ground.
03:10:26.000 Boots on the fucking ground.
03:10:28.000 So unless you're protecting Israeli interests, but they have the nerve to call you an anti-Semitic.
03:10:32.000 Unless you've done more for Israel than I have, shut the fuck up.
03:10:34.000 Excuse my language.
03:10:35.000 And I apologize.
03:10:35.000 I want to rumble.
03:10:36.000 Say what you want, baby!
03:10:38.000 This is rumble.
03:10:39.000 You guys are getting Scott Ritter for real.
03:10:41.000 Let's fucking go, baby!
03:10:56.000 What we're trying to do is speak the truth.
03:11:08.000 It's not about saying good things or bad things.
03:11:10.000 It's about speaking the truth.
03:11:11.000 And the truth is, there's going to be good and bad with everything.
03:11:15.000 What's your take on Donald Trump, the current situation he finds himself in?
03:11:20.000 I'll give the audience just a quick little overview of what's going on.
03:11:22.000 He was indicted in New York on some falsifying business records charge, which is fucking bullshit.
03:11:28.000 Thinks of Stormy Daniels, some stupid whore, paying her off as lawyer.
03:11:33.000 Fucked up with that, creating a shell business to pay, and then they went ahead and said, oh, it was done with campaign funds, whatever.
03:11:38.000 That's not a real charge.
03:11:40.000 So it's a misdemeanor.
03:11:40.000 It's a misdemeanor, but they made a felony because they're saying that it was in commission of another thing.
03:11:44.000 The AD campaigned under prosecuting Trump, so they had a hard-on for him.
03:11:48.000 Not real.
03:11:49.000 What I'm more concerned with, and you know this from coming from the intel world, and both of us working for the government before...
03:11:55.000 They're going after him now for having those classified documents and also national defense information, NDI, which I'm worried about more than the classified shit because, you know, obviously he could declassify the declassified documents, which he didn't.
03:12:07.000 But regardless, let's say he did declassify all those.
03:12:10.000 It doesn't matter because he has the NDI, which is what I'm worried about.
03:12:13.000 They fucking indicted him about a month ago now at this point, a couple weeks ago.
03:12:18.000 For violation of the Espionage Act, which if you don't know, guys, are the same exact charges that Pollard got hit with, Robert Hansen got hit with, 18 U.S.C. 793E, and then him and his aide, Waltine Natua, he got also hit with obstruction of justice,
03:12:34.000 lying, all this other shit.
03:12:36.000 So...
03:12:37.000 Pretty much, for me doing the numbers, etc., it looks like he's going to do somewhere between 8 to 20 years if convicted of this stuff.
03:12:44.000 And I don't think he can win a trial if he went.
03:12:46.000 And this is coming from a Trump supporter, guys.
03:12:48.000 I fucking love Trump.
03:12:49.000 And I had my little theory on how I think he can beat these charges.
03:12:52.000 But that's the general overview.
03:12:54.000 I think I summed it up.
03:12:56.000 What's your thoughts on the situation?
03:12:57.000 What's your take on the situation?
03:12:59.000 Obviously, this is unprecedented to have a former U.S. president indicted federally for violations of the Espionage Act.
03:13:08.000 You need to add one more person to somebody who's been charged with espionage.
03:13:12.000 Who?
03:13:13.000 Me.
03:13:15.000 I told you, when the CIA guy said that the FBI was going to fuck me in the ass, the first thing they did is file espionage charges against me because of my intelligence relationship with Israel.
03:13:15.000 Really?
03:13:26.000 What?
03:13:27.000 What the FBI didn't understand is that every aspect of my intelligence relationship with Israel was coordinated with the CIA. And even when I went to the CIA and said, could you please tell the FBI that this is horseshit because the U.S. government was in the business of fucking me in the ass at the time,
03:13:43.000 the CIA wouldn't do that.
03:13:44.000 So I spent three years fighting espionage charges.
03:13:47.000 They finally dropped them.
03:13:48.000 Did they ever indict you?
03:13:50.000 That was a person of interest.
03:13:52.000 They never acknowledged whether or not they had an indictment.
03:13:56.000 They had Mary Jo White.
03:13:59.000 Remember her name?
03:14:00.000 Mary Jo White was the prosecutor of the Southern District of New York.
03:14:05.000 She had the reputation of being the hardest anti-terrorist prosecutor in the history of America.
03:14:10.000 If Mary Jo White put her sights on you, you were going down.
03:14:13.000 Who did she prosecute?
03:14:15.000 Anyone notable that you could think of?
03:14:17.000 Rez Yusuf maybe or somebody?
03:14:19.000 Yeah, she did all those guys.
03:14:21.000 She did all those guys?
03:14:21.000 Everything out of the Southern District.
03:14:22.000 She was the person.
03:14:24.000 So she did all the terrorism cases out of Southern District?
03:14:26.000 Yeah, she was a big one.
03:14:27.000 She never lost a case.
03:14:28.000 Ever lost a case.
03:14:29.000 I made her back down.
03:14:31.000 Because at the end of the day, when I confronted the FBI... And this is pre-9-11?
03:14:35.000 It's pre-9-11.
03:14:36.000 So CIA and FBI weren't sharing shit.
03:14:38.000 I mean, it's documented that the CIA documented, guys, declassified documents, it is documented they knew who the fuck these terrorists were.
03:14:46.000 They knew where they were at.
03:14:48.000 They had eyes on Mohammed Atta, right?
03:14:50.000 We're going to talk about this in more detail around Ryan Dawson, by the way.
03:14:53.000 Not only did they know who these fucking guys were, Israeli intelligence knew who the fuck these guys were.
03:14:59.000 They were following them around Florida.
03:15:01.000 They were using a moving company, which was run by Israeli intelligence, by the way.
03:15:06.000 Transport Moving Systems.
03:15:07.000 Shout out to Ryan Dawson once again for exposing that.
03:15:10.000 It was known.
03:15:11.000 And the CIA had warned the White House on several occasions about imminent attacks from Osama Bin Laden.
03:15:19.000 So Man.
03:15:22.000 So they clearly never indicted you because you didn't get charged.
03:15:25.000 How many times did they come and try to talk to you, the Bureau?
03:15:29.000 We did what's called a queen for the day arrangement.
03:15:29.000 No, no.
03:15:33.000 Okay, you did a proffer.
03:15:34.000 Yeah.
03:15:35.000 Well, no, no.
03:15:36.000 What they said is...
03:15:38.000 Okay, you come in and talk.
03:15:40.000 And we'll listen.
03:15:42.000 And nothing could be used against you.
03:15:43.000 And I told my lawyer, he said, well, you got to be careful.
03:15:43.000 Right.
03:15:45.000 I said, I got nothing.
03:15:46.000 So I went in there.
03:15:47.000 They had the three FBI agents who were after me.
03:15:52.000 When we finished, about three hours later.
03:15:54.000 All of them showed you their creds?
03:15:55.000 I was in their building.
03:15:55.000 Oh, no, no.
03:15:57.000 I was in the interrogation room.
03:15:59.000 When we finished.
03:16:00.000 And I just wanted to make sure all of them were actually bureau guys.
03:16:02.000 Oh, no, they were bureau.
03:16:03.000 The female was crying, sobbing, embarrassed.
03:16:07.000 The other guy wouldn't look me in the eyes.
03:16:08.000 He was embarrassed, too.
03:16:09.000 And the other guy was just saying, I'm sorry.
03:16:11.000 This should never have happened.
03:16:11.000 I'm sorry.
03:16:12.000 Because I confronted them with the absolute bullshit of their charges.
03:16:16.000 How everything they fucking did was based on a lie.
03:16:19.000 I proved to them how everything I did was proper effort.
03:16:23.000 Not only that, that I was the most fucking patriotic American that walked the face of the fucking earth.
03:16:27.000 On what grounds were they trying to say that you were...
03:16:29.000 Because you worked with Israel?
03:16:31.000 Because I took U2 imagery to Israel and turned it over to the Israelis to be exploited.
03:16:38.000 But that was under the direction of what you were told by your higher-ups.
03:16:42.000 Right.
03:16:43.000 None of that.
03:16:43.000 But they said, well, it's secret.
03:16:44.000 I said, no, it's not.
03:16:46.000 They said, it's marked secret.
03:16:47.000 But the U-2 aircraft that took it worked for the United Nations under my direction.
03:16:51.000 I directed it as a UN official.
03:16:53.000 It took the imagery.
03:16:55.000 That imagery belonged to me.
03:16:57.000 It was given to me.
03:16:58.000 I tried to get the United States to exploit this imagery.
03:17:01.000 I was told that the United States won't do that.
03:17:03.000 So then I went to the CIA and got permission to take it to Israel, where the Israelis exploited it.
03:17:08.000 And the CIA didn't want to give you that fucking clearance that you had...
03:17:12.000 Obviously, this had been agreed upon.
03:17:13.000 They didn't want to give it to you?
03:17:14.000 They didn't tell the FBI. They let the FBI operate as if I was fucking bringing classified information to Israel.
03:17:21.000 And remember, guys, this is pre-9-11.
03:17:23.000 This is pre-Patriot Act.
03:17:24.000 This is pre-The Intelligence Age is working with each other.
03:17:26.000 Like, this is pre-everything.
03:17:27.000 You know what I mean?
03:17:28.000 I just brought that up because...
03:17:30.000 I just want to throw my name on the people who've been charged with espionage.
03:17:33.000 But I beat the charge.
03:17:35.000 That's good that they never formally indicted you.
03:17:38.000 You were asking about...
03:17:39.000 I was asking with Trump.
03:17:43.000 What's your thoughts on his situation being indicted for violation of the Espionage Act?
03:17:48.000 Here's my thing.
03:17:50.000 No man or woman should be above the law.
03:17:52.000 If you break the law, you have to be held accountable or else the rule of law means nothing.
03:17:57.000 Having said that, though, we also know that prosecutors have prosecutorial discretion.
03:18:02.000 They exercise it all the time.
03:18:05.000 Especially the federal prosecutors.
03:18:06.000 I'll tell you guys that as a guy that used to do federal criminal cases, AUSAs are the pickiest divas ever.
03:18:12.000 They only take the sexy cases that they don't lose.
03:18:15.000 Or they also, believe it or not, they look at cases and say more harm than good would come of this prosecution.
03:18:24.000 Absolutely.
03:18:24.000 And so they can opt not to charge or they can opt to seek alternative ways of dealing with this.
03:18:31.000 Absolutely.
03:18:31.000 There's clever ways to do this.
03:18:33.000 Yeah.
03:18:33.000 The big one is throwing it to the state.
03:18:35.000 Yeah.
03:18:36.000 That's the quickest one.
03:18:37.000 That's the easiest one.
03:18:39.000 Well, the easiest one is just to say...
03:18:41.000 Didn't fucking happen.
03:18:42.000 Oh, that too.
03:18:43.000 Of course.
03:18:44.000 So now we deal with Trump.
03:18:46.000 Here's the problem with Trump.
03:18:49.000 Everybody hates Trump.
03:18:52.000 I mean, not you, not the people.
03:18:53.000 Yeah.
03:18:54.000 But Trump doesn't have that many allies in the establishment.
03:18:57.000 He's the anti-establishment guy.
03:19:00.000 RFK, too?
03:19:01.000 Yeah.
03:19:02.000 Fortunately, RFK, you know, hopefully he can dodge bullets.
03:19:07.000 I am worried about RFK. Yeah.
03:19:09.000 And as he becomes more popular, I mean, his numbers are going up, and that's bad for him.
03:19:16.000 Drop the bombshell on Rogan with...
03:19:19.000 You know, why they killed his uncle.
03:19:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:19:23.000 He's not making friends.
03:19:25.000 But anyways, with Trump, again, no man is above the law.
03:19:31.000 And if you've done it, but let me put it this way.
03:19:33.000 If Donald Trump, if this was any other politician being accused of Buying off a hooker who was talking about him and all that.
03:19:43.000 Crazy.
03:19:45.000 This wouldn't have been prosecuted.
03:19:47.000 Or this would have been done somewhere where they charge you a fine and all that kind of stuff.
03:19:50.000 It's just a non-issue.
03:19:51.000 But because they're desperate to get Donald Trump They are.
03:19:57.000 This is a politicized prosecution, which is the worst kind of prosecution possible.
03:20:01.000 It's being done for the wrong reasons.
03:20:03.000 That's the New York case.
03:20:05.000 Now we'll get to the more complicated case.
03:20:07.000 The federal one, yeah.
03:20:08.000 Which has me worried.
03:20:09.000 I'm not...
03:20:10.000 Let me put it this way.
03:20:14.000 Somebody used to hold...
03:20:15.000 You can move it.
03:20:18.000 Somebody used to hold the highest clearances in the land.
03:20:21.000 I mean...
03:20:22.000 What'd you talk about?
03:20:23.000 I'm sure SCI is the bare minimum.
03:20:25.000 Do you have a white hat?
03:20:27.000 I had a number of things that I'm not allowed to talk about because you signed non-disclosure agreements.
03:20:31.000 Fair enough.
03:20:33.000 I'm just going to estimate probably Q clearance is a white hat.
03:20:36.000 Q is like nuclear type shit.
03:20:38.000 But continue on.
03:20:39.000 I'm just going to speculate for the audience to throw it out there.
03:20:42.000 Yeah, you don't have to confirm or deny.
03:20:44.000 But the point is, having signed a non-disclosure agreement, I live by that non-disclosure agreement.
03:20:49.000 I know there's lawyers out there that tell me that an NDA is not legally binding.
03:20:54.000 I don't want to test that.
03:20:56.000 Plus, I'm somebody that believes that...
03:21:03.000 Things are classified for a reason.
03:21:04.000 There's a reason why I was entrusted with this knowledge, I used it in my work, and then when I'm done with that, I'm done with that.
03:21:16.000 If I talk about it, people's lives could be put at risk, systems could be exploited, compromised, billion-dollar systems could be compromised, bad things could happen to the country.
03:21:26.000 And I'm talking about even, you know, I last held a clearance long, long, long, long time ago.
03:21:33.000 You know, logic says that whatever I knew isn't relevant today, but it doesn't matter because you can reverse-engineer things.
03:21:40.000 I can say things that could lead people to speculate.
03:21:42.000 So I just don't talk about it.
03:21:44.000 It's the right thing to do.
03:21:47.000 And all the things you have discussed today are all declassified now.
03:21:50.000 100%.
03:21:53.000 The problem is nobody else respects that.
03:21:56.000 And what I mean by that is we live in a day and age where the New York Times publishes highly classified information every day.
03:22:02.000 People leak.
03:22:03.000 Washington, D.C. leaks like a sieve.
03:22:05.000 Congress leaks.
03:22:06.000 CIA leaks.
03:22:07.000 Everybody leaks.
03:22:08.000 They leak to their benefit.
03:22:09.000 They leak what's beneficial to them.
03:22:11.000 Things have been published in newspapers that have been leaked by government sources that have resulted in people dying, resulted in billion-dollar systems being compromised.
03:22:20.000 One of the most...
03:22:26.000 Yeah.
03:22:29.000 Yeah.
03:22:43.000 Billion dollar thing.
03:22:44.000 Somebody leaked that to the...
03:22:46.000 So, I'm not saying that that's good.
03:22:48.000 I'm just saying that that's how Washington, D.C. works.
03:22:51.000 And the reason why I bring that up is that people are saying what Donald Trump did is the most horrible thing in the world, put us at risk.
03:22:58.000 And I'm like, I don't support what he did.
03:23:00.000 But it's not the most horrible thing in the world because it happens every day.
03:23:03.000 In Washington, D.C., people leak information and you don't have FBI investigations going on, etc.
03:23:10.000 You know, we don't know what documents Joe Biden has in his office.
03:23:15.000 Nobody's talking about the contents of that.
03:23:17.000 We don't know what Mike Pence had in his office.
03:23:19.000 And I will tell you right now, it's a guaranteed fact that if I launched a raid against...
03:23:27.000 I could build a list of 50 government officials right now and launch a raid against their homes.
03:23:32.000 And you'll find classified docs.
03:23:34.000 100%.
03:23:35.000 Because we over classify everything.
03:23:40.000 That's 100% true.
03:23:42.000 And we make it too easy to move these documents.
03:23:45.000 Mm-hmm.
03:23:45.000 I used to sign a bigot list.
03:23:47.000 You know what a bigot list is?
03:23:50.000 Let's say the CIA publishes an estimate, a special estimate on Soviet strategic nuclear weapons.
03:23:58.000 For me to get that document, I had to sign a receipt.
03:24:01.000 Okay, so now I have the document.
03:24:03.000 It's a numbered document.
03:24:05.000 Anybody who sees that document has to sign the receipt, and then it has to be returned with that chain so they know who accessed the document.
03:24:13.000 So if it's ever compromised, they know exactly who to go back to.
03:24:16.000 Bingo.
03:24:17.000 The documents had, at that time, first of all, each document had...
03:24:36.000 I'm not giving away anything here.
03:24:46.000 The construction of the language on that document differed in different documents.
03:24:51.000 So if somebody quoted something, they'd say, well, it came from this document.
03:24:55.000 Now they have a limited bigot list.
03:24:57.000 What I'm trying to say is that we actually secured the information back then.
03:25:00.000 We took it seriously.
03:25:02.000 Today...
03:25:02.000 Yeah, in the information age.
03:25:04.000 Stuff is the digital stuff.
03:25:06.000 They're just sending stuff out.
03:25:07.000 It's printed out.
03:25:08.000 It's not treated with respect.
03:25:09.000 It's overclassified.
03:25:11.000 You know, our job back then was to try and get...
03:25:17.000 We're good to go.
03:25:31.000 Highly classified information is fucking useless 99% of the time, especially in criminal investigations.
03:25:37.000 It brings more harm than good a lot of the times.
03:25:41.000 So the goal was to dumb this information down, to strip away the stuff.
03:25:51.000 Yeah.
03:25:56.000 Yeah.
03:25:58.000 Yeah.
03:26:10.000 Does Donald Trump have the right to declassify it?
03:26:13.000 Well, of course he does.
03:26:14.000 He was president of the United States.
03:26:15.000 While he was president, he could declassify anything he wanted to.
03:26:18.000 And this is where people are like, well, there are procedures.
03:26:22.000 He's the fucking president.
03:26:23.000 There's no procedure for the president.
03:26:25.000 Supreme Court has said so.
03:26:27.000 That doesn't mean that he should do it.
03:26:30.000 But...
03:26:33.000 You know, it's going to be a hard trial for him.
03:26:36.000 Here's my thing.
03:26:36.000 I think that the concept of the damage to the national security that they claim was done is exaggerated just because we live in a society that leaks everything.
03:26:47.000 There's compromises done every day of the week.
03:26:50.000 There's 13 documents they don't want to charge him with because they're saying they're so classified that...
03:26:57.000 Because for them to admit it into evidence, it has to be declassified so that they can put it into the discovery process.
03:27:03.000 So they're saying they're only hitting them with 37 of the documents.
03:27:06.000 They're saying there's another 13 that were so classified.
03:27:08.000 We don't know if that's media sensationalization or if it was really that classified that they don't want to use it.
03:27:14.000 But the point I'm trying to make is...
03:27:16.000 I've read Edward Snowden's documents that he's released.
03:27:19.000 Uh-huh.
03:27:21.000 Okay.
03:27:21.000 Did the country come to an end?
03:27:23.000 No.
03:27:24.000 And some of the stuff that he released...
03:27:25.000 Operation Warwind.
03:27:27.000 ...should never have been released.
03:27:28.000 Yeah.
03:27:28.000 But country didn't come to an end.
03:27:31.000 Yeah.
03:27:32.000 I actually think that we would benefit from half the stuff that he was there.
03:27:35.000 I think the more Americans learned about what Donald Trump...
03:27:38.000 Because what you realize is, A, half the stuff that it talks about we shouldn't be doing.
03:27:45.000 Yeah, it was invasion stuff, a lot of it.
03:27:48.000 It was invasion stuff.
03:27:49.000 It was Five Eyes information.
03:27:50.000 For those of you that are wondering what the fuck is Five Eyes, that's the five English-speaking countries where we're having an alliance with the United States, New Zealand, Australia, England, and...
03:28:01.000 New Zealand.
03:28:02.000 Did you say New Zealand?
03:28:03.000 United States.
03:28:04.000 Oh, Canada.
03:28:05.000 Oh, Canada.
03:28:06.000 Blame Canada.
03:28:07.000 Blame Canada.
03:28:08.000 Yeah, blame Canada.
03:28:09.000 So it was a lot of Five Eyes information.
03:28:13.000 A lot of no foreign nationals should be seeing it.
03:28:18.000 But these classifications mean nothing.
03:28:20.000 Yeah, yeah.
03:28:21.000 And I'll give you a funny little story for y'all, right?
03:28:26.000 Listen, because I agree with you 100% that they over-classify everything.
03:28:30.000 When I was an agent with HSI, I used to work with the FBI in certain cases, blah, blah, blah.
03:28:35.000 Dude, there was times where we gave them information, and then we'd be like, oh yeah, the information we gave you, can you tell us about it?
03:28:41.000 Like, I don't have it in front of me.
03:28:42.000 Oh, that's classified.
03:28:44.000 Wait, what?
03:28:45.000 We gave you that information.
03:28:46.000 What the fuck are you guys talking about is classified?
03:28:48.000 They classify everything.
03:28:49.000 Because in, you know, out of an abundance of caution, because everyone is scared, they just classify it.
03:28:55.000 Fuck it.
03:28:55.000 Especially the Bureau.
03:28:56.000 One of the worst agencies when it comes to classifying shit.
03:28:59.000 A lot of times that's law enforcement sensitive.
03:29:01.000 This isn't classified.
03:29:02.000 What the fuck are you guys talking about?
03:29:03.000 We gave you this.
03:29:04.000 Oh, classified.
03:29:05.000 Yeah.
03:29:06.000 When I was a weapons inspector in Iraq, the Dutch had a defector that they were getting information when they wanted to get it to us.
03:29:15.000 But they didn't want to have a relationship with UNSCOM. So they went to the CIA and they gave it to the CIA with the express.
03:29:22.000 They said, give it to UNSCOM. The problem is the CIA received it.
03:29:27.000 No foreign.
03:29:28.000 No foreign dissemination.
03:29:30.000 And so now the CIA wouldn't give it to us.
03:29:32.000 And so for a year and a half, the Dutch were like, why aren't you guys acting on this?
03:29:35.000 And finally, the Dutch guy came up and he said, are you getting this stuff?
03:29:38.000 I said, I'm not getting anything.
03:29:39.000 But the CIA blocked it because...
03:29:43.000 It was a foreign source, and there becomes automatically no foreign dissemination, which means the United Nations can't get it.
03:29:49.000 So we ended up doing direct relationship with the Dutch, but it's the same thing.
03:29:54.000 Then I would take this information from the Dutch, and then I would go to my CIA liaison, and we'd start working on it, and I'd hand things over to him.
03:30:06.000 They'd receive it, and then when I'd sit down the next meeting, I'd say, hey, that stuff I gave you, can we bring it?
03:30:14.000 Oh, no, it's classified.
03:30:17.000 You can't see it.
03:30:18.000 I said, but I gave it to you.
03:30:20.000 So you dealt with the same bullshit.
03:30:22.000 Yo, guys, I'm telling y'all, man.
03:30:25.000 So, okay, so sorry, but going back to the Trump, I see a bunch of you guys talking about the USS Liberty.
03:30:29.000 That's another cover-up no one wants to talk about.
03:30:30.000 Yeah, no one wants to talk about the Liberty.
03:30:31.000 Nobody wants to talk about the Liberty.
03:30:33.000 Murder of America.
03:30:34.000 Yep, yep, and man.
03:30:38.000 Lyndon B. Johnson, okay, that's a whole other, okay.
03:30:42.000 Shout out to Ryan Johnson once again, yeah, with the Trump situation.
03:30:44.000 We can discuss the liberty as well if people want.
03:30:46.000 This is going to hurt America more than it helps America.
03:30:51.000 If people don't, look, I know you said you're a big Donald Trump supporter.
03:30:56.000 I like him.
03:30:57.000 Well, I used to like him.
03:30:58.000 I don't anymore.
03:31:00.000 I think he does more harm than good at this point in time.
03:31:04.000 But I will tell you this, the more they prosecute him, the more I'm going to vote for him.
03:31:09.000 Okay, all right.
03:31:10.000 Because it...
03:31:14.000 We need disruption, and he's the disruptor.
03:31:16.000 I'd like to see RFK Jr.
03:31:17.000 get more traction.
03:31:18.000 I'd like to see him become more viable.
03:31:21.000 Honestly, I'm cool.
03:31:22.000 RFK, Ron DeSantis, or Trump.
03:31:25.000 But Biden's got to go.
03:31:28.000 But the more they go after him...
03:31:33.000 This is not a legitimate prosecution of a crime.
03:31:35.000 That's my point.
03:31:52.000 He was pardoned because they didn't want to have the embarrassment of a president going through this.
03:31:57.000 Didn't he famously say you can't prosecute a president?
03:31:59.000 He famously said it.
03:32:01.000 But the thing is, you can.
03:32:03.000 But here's my point.
03:32:04.000 Why aren't we applying that same standard to Donald Trump?
03:32:08.000 Why isn't somebody pulling Trump aside saying, hey, look, in the interest of America, we can't go down this route.
03:32:15.000 Was it Nixon at the Bohemian Grove?
03:32:16.000 I'm sure he was.
03:32:18.000 Was Donald Trump ever at the Bohemian Grove?
03:32:20.000 I don't think so.
03:32:21.000 I don't know.
03:32:21.000 But my point is, this is going to be very disruptive to America.
03:32:25.000 We're already a nation that's deeply polarized.
03:32:29.000 We should be looking to find ways to bring people together, not tear people apart.
03:32:33.000 And these prosecutions are purely political.
03:32:37.000 They can't control Trump.
03:32:39.000 That's another thing.
03:32:39.000 That's the problem.
03:32:40.000 They can't control him because he has his own money.
03:32:43.000 He doesn't need these lobbying entities.
03:32:47.000 He's self-made, so he runs his campaign the way he wants.
03:32:51.000 And he doesn't respect the establishment.
03:32:52.000 Yeah, he doesn't.
03:32:53.000 The deep state, all that stuff, he criticizes all of them.
03:32:55.000 Which he's right.
03:32:56.000 But then you have to understand that if you're going to go after the deep state, the deep state's going to come after you.
03:33:01.000 And that's what's happening right now.
03:33:03.000 This is literally...
03:33:04.000 The Justice Department being politicized.
03:33:09.000 They're going to indict him for January 6th, too.
03:33:11.000 I'm sure they're going to get him on something.
03:33:12.000 But my point is, what they don't understand is that this isn't about Donald Trump.
03:33:18.000 This is about America.
03:33:19.000 And when you politicize the Justice Department, you destroy American justice.
03:33:26.000 There's already...
03:33:28.000 We could have a very long conversation about American justice.
03:33:32.000 I've gone through some pretty silly stuff myself.
03:33:37.000 I've lost faith in the American court system because I believe that if they want to take you down, they will manipulate the system to take you down.
03:33:47.000 Show me the man, I'll find you the crime.
03:33:49.000 Bingo.
03:33:50.000 And so Donald Trump is, well, there's a guy who wrote a book, Five Felonies a Day or something like that.
03:33:55.000 But basically it was, we have so many laws out there that every law-abiding citizen just by living life is committing five felonies a day that if the government wants to get you, they're going to get you.
03:34:07.000 On something.
03:34:08.000 Because just living in America today, the way everything is regulated, etc., and the power of the prosecution, the power of the courts, if you get on the wrong side of them, they're going to take you down.
03:34:21.000 Bottom line.
03:34:22.000 Donald Trump is definitely on the wrong side of the system, and they are doing their best to take him down.
03:34:27.000 This is going to destroy us more than help us.
03:34:29.000 I will say this.
03:34:31.000 I've thought in my head, how can Trump get out of this?
03:34:35.000 And I can only think of two ways.
03:34:36.000 And we got, well, we got almost 14,000 y'all watching on Rumble right now, man.
03:34:40.000 Thank you guys so much.
03:34:41.000 You guys can be anywhere else.
03:34:42.000 It's 1220 at night, but you guys are here with me and Scott Ritter having this high IQ conversation.
03:34:46.000 I think the only way that they can, that Trump can get out of this is A, he draws out this prosecution.
03:34:57.000 Stalls, hearing after hearing, suppression hearing after suppression hearing, fighting, making as many frivolous contentions as he can, right?
03:35:09.000 Get to the election, 2024.
03:35:14.000 Obviously, he's wildly popular.
03:35:16.000 The more they indict him, the more they charge him, the more he goes up in the polls.
03:35:20.000 Win the election.
03:35:22.000 I guess you could probably pardon yourself as president, I assume.
03:35:25.000 I don't think he'd pardon himself, but I think he'll destroy the Justice Department.
03:35:28.000 Yeah.
03:35:28.000 As he should at that point.
03:35:29.000 Like, he can probably do something to pardon himself.
03:35:32.000 Or, the other one, which I talked about this with Dave Rubin, shout out to him, he said that if Ron DeSantis wins, he pretty much said, I will pardon Trump, which I think is great.
03:35:45.000 It's a smart move.
03:35:46.000 Look, Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon, and it saved America.
03:35:49.000 Yeah.
03:35:50.000 Because the moment...
03:35:52.000 Where are you going to put Trump in prison?
03:35:54.000 I was going to say that next.
03:35:55.000 Bro, okay, this is a guy, just so you guys know, I did Secret Service details before.
03:36:00.000 I protected the president of Congo, I think it was, or fuck, I forget, some African country, I forget the country.
03:36:07.000 Back at...
03:36:08.000 When I tell you guys, it was extremely difficult to protect a president from a foreign nation that doesn't have nearly the same security requirements as a president of the United States, there's no way that he'd be able to effectively serve any type of prison time.
03:36:25.000 There's no way!
03:36:25.000 No, it's just stupid.
03:36:27.000 It's stupid.
03:36:28.000 This is the dumbest prosecution in the world.
03:36:30.000 He'd have to be put...
03:36:31.000 The only way I could even see this happening is they'd have to put him on house arrest.
03:36:36.000 Well, that might be...
03:36:37.000 Or make a jail just for him.
03:36:39.000 Which would be a waste of money and time.
03:36:41.000 Mar-a-Lago.
03:36:41.000 Yeah.
03:36:42.000 Because of prison.
03:36:43.000 Like, that's the only way I could see it.
03:36:44.000 There's no way that you could...
03:36:46.000 Because him getting...
03:36:47.000 Could you imagine a former president of the United States getting killed in prison?
03:36:49.000 But here's the thing, though.
03:36:52.000 Because a felony conviction doesn't bar you from being president of the United States, he still won the damn election.
03:37:00.000 Yeah.
03:37:00.000 So now he's president of the United States under house arrest?
03:37:03.000 Yeah.
03:37:04.000 It does...
03:37:04.000 Yeah, I don't...
03:37:06.000 I think, honestly, the Justice Department did this for, like, a clout move.
03:37:09.000 Like, this is a power, like, look at what we've done.
03:37:11.000 But I don't know how the hell they're gonna actually enforce Him being in prison because I'll keep it a million with you guys.
03:37:19.000 Someone that I've done espionage cases myself, yeah, they pretty much got him dead to rights.
03:37:23.000 I read through the entire indictment in its entirety and I'm like, God damn, every single one of his defenses, they call it a speaking indictment because it goes through all the facts and it covers all of his defenses that he could potentially bring up.
03:37:33.000 And this is the other thing that scares me too with that case.
03:37:38.000 Trump had lawyers that worked for him during this whole situation.
03:37:43.000 Those lawyers were tasked with getting the documents that were classified and giving them over to the FBI. Trump's assistant moved some of the documents when Trump's lawyers were going to get the documents and give them to the FBI, which is why that guy is being indicted,
03:37:59.000 by the way, for the obstruction of justice.
03:38:00.000 This is what concerns me.
03:38:02.000 When I read the document, right, the indictment, reading between the lines, I saw in there that they wrote, Trump Lawyer 1 memorialized notes states as follows.
03:38:14.000 Well, we know lawyer information with a defendant is privileged.
03:38:19.000 Law enforcement should never have that.
03:38:21.000 Why the fuck...
03:38:23.000 Is the AUSA putting lawyer notes in an indictment that's supposed to be privileged and not used?
03:38:30.000 That tells me one thing, only one conclusion.
03:38:33.000 The lawyers flipped and they're cooperating with the government, which means they are going to testify against Trump should he go to trial.
03:38:41.000 That is the only conclusion I can come to.
03:38:43.000 And the fact that they were able to do that tells me this is more than likely what happened.
03:38:47.000 It's someone that used to do these investigations.
03:38:50.000 Lawyers go with the documents that they have in hand.
03:38:52.000 Hey, FBI, here's the documents that Trump gave us.
03:38:55.000 Okay, sign this under penalty and perjury document that these are all the documents.
03:39:00.000 Sure!
03:39:01.000 Sign it away.
03:39:03.000 Stupid!
03:39:04.000 Not all the documents were there.
03:39:06.000 They're still missing 100 documents.
03:39:08.000 FBI looks.
03:39:09.000 Oh, we're still missing 100 docs.
03:39:11.000 Search warrant time.
03:39:12.000 Write up an affidavit.
03:39:13.000 Write up the search warrant.
03:39:14.000 Go raid the house.
03:39:15.000 The other thing that concerns me when I read through that search warrant, it's heavily redacted.
03:39:21.000 We're good to go.
03:39:40.000 So that's how they got in.
03:39:41.000 So they get in.
03:39:42.000 They find the documents.
03:39:43.000 They bring those same lawyers in.
03:39:44.000 You're going to be indicted for fucking obstruction of justice and for 1001, which is bad enough.
03:39:50.000 1001 is false statements.
03:39:51.000 They're going to get convicted of felony, lose their bar, lose their life, etc.
03:39:54.000 You better play ball.
03:39:56.000 Okay.
03:39:56.000 Now that I know that Trump committed an act, I didn't know about this, a criminal act, privilege is gone.
03:40:01.000 Here's my notes that I took every time I was with Trump.
03:40:03.000 And the indictment also talks about situations where the lawyer...
03:40:08.000 When he was talking with Trump about getting these documents out, Trump made a plucking thing.
03:40:14.000 Like, as in, like, when he was going to the hotel, just pluck those documents out.
03:40:16.000 Do we really have to cooperate with the FBI, blah, blah, blah?
03:40:19.000 All these things, and he wrote it down.
03:40:22.000 Even though this is bullshit, what I see is that they're going to have all these witnesses, including Trump's own former lawyers, that are going to testify against him.
03:40:31.000 They're going to have Mar-a-Lago employees.
03:40:33.000 They're probably going to have even Secret Service agents testify.
03:40:37.000 It's not going to be good.
03:40:38.000 So I think the only way he's going to beat this, draw it out, become president, pardon yourself, or hopefully Ron DeSantis, or whoever takes office, pardon him.
03:40:46.000 Yeah.
03:40:47.000 Look, you're 100% correct on...
03:40:50.000 The only good news, I think, for Trump in all of this is that the federal prosecutor hasn't won a major case yet.
03:40:59.000 He's overcharged, overreached on everything.
03:41:03.000 As bad as all this looks, maybe there's a lawyer out there right now that can pull a miracle.
03:41:09.000 But I think the miracle is what you just said.
03:41:13.000 And he's going to go to trial, which worries me even more.
03:41:15.000 Because that means if he goes to trial, all those witnesses are coming out.
03:41:17.000 All of them.
03:41:18.000 Well, he has to avoid trial.
03:41:19.000 What it means is to draw this thing out.
03:41:21.000 This has to be drawn out for years.
03:41:24.000 And if you have a good lawyer, you can do that.
03:41:26.000 I think he has the money and the finances to just file suppression hearing after suppression hearing, motion after motion.
03:41:32.000 Every day this goes on.
03:41:33.000 I mean, it's counterintuitive, but he's becoming...
03:41:35.000 The more it appears that he's guilty, the more popular he becomes.
03:41:40.000 You know, so...
03:41:40.000 Yeah.
03:41:42.000 So, okay, so we talked about the Trump thing.
03:41:46.000 Damn it, there was another...
03:41:49.000 We can have some of these rumble rants real quick.
03:41:51.000 Guys, are you guys enjoying this?
03:41:53.000 Give me one thing to chat if you guys are enjoying this discussion, man.
03:41:55.000 It's one of my favorite discussions we've had.
03:41:57.000 I knew this was going to be a great podcast for y'all.
03:41:59.000 We're breaking down everything.
03:42:01.000 Trump, Iraq, Russia, Ukraine, Putin, the media, Shit that would get us banned on YouTube.
03:42:07.000 So, like the goddamn video.
03:42:09.000 Also, Scott, can you drop your socials for the people real quick?
03:42:11.000 If they want to get more content like this from you, where can they find you?
03:42:14.000 Get me on Twitter at I think it's at Real Scott Ritter.
03:42:19.000 Telegram is just Scott Ritter.
03:42:23.000 But the best way is at scottridderextra.com.
03:42:28.000 It's a one-shop stop for videos that I do.
03:42:32.000 For instance, if this is on YouTube and I get a link, I'll put it up there so people who didn't watch it will see it.
03:42:37.000 I do a lot of podcasts.
03:42:39.000 I do my own podcasts.
03:42:41.000 And then I have a sub-stack where I publish all my stuff.
03:42:46.000 And there's no firewall, no paywall, so it can all be free, but if people like it...
03:42:51.000 Guys, go support him, man.
03:42:52.000 Go support him over there.
03:42:53.000 All those links are below as well.
03:42:55.000 You know, you guys enjoy this type of content, man.
03:42:58.000 You know, it's not often that you can bring in a geopolitical expert like this and be able to have these discussions.
03:43:02.000 This is obviously, you know, much higher IQ than our normal shows with the fucking dumb assholes.
03:43:07.000 And this is some of my favorite stuff.
03:43:08.000 Being able to talk to an expert and ask questions.
03:43:10.000 And shout out to Ryan Dawson.
03:43:11.000 Hi!
03:43:12.000 We're putting this together.
03:43:13.000 We're going to have Ryan Dawson on tomorrow.
03:43:15.000 I think I just figured out what 304 is.
03:43:18.000 Okay.
03:43:18.000 Yes.
03:43:19.000 I got it.
03:43:20.000 I got it.
03:43:20.000 I got it.
03:43:21.000 Oh, man.
03:43:22.000 Question for Scott.
03:43:23.000 How credible are the claims that the Ukrainian army has a Nazi division?
03:43:27.000 And did a lot of Nazis find asylum in Ukraine after World War II? We discussed some of that earlier, right?
03:43:32.000 But I don't know if you want to elaborate more.
03:43:35.000 Look, the Ukrainian army sings songs praising Stepan Bandera, who is a white supremacist Nazi collaborator.
03:43:48.000 There's a division called the Edelweiss Division.
03:43:51.000 It's a mountain division, but it assumed the title Edelweiss.
03:43:54.000 Now, some people say that's harmless.
03:43:55.000 Other people say that that's linked to Nazis.
03:43:58.000 But you have the Azov, which is definitely a Nazi-related division.
03:44:03.000 You have Kraken Battalion.
03:44:05.000 But the bottom line is the Nazi ideology has reached a pandemic level inside the Ukrainian military.
03:44:15.000 And the longer this war goes on, the more it seems to radicalize them.
03:44:19.000 They have adopted the German cross as the symbol for their vehicle.
03:44:23.000 Yeah.
03:44:25.000 We got here.
03:44:26.000 What's up next?
03:44:28.000 Tropical rocket goals.
03:44:29.000 Why didn't Putin react as soon as Prigl's in started going off?
03:44:34.000 Because he wanted to avoid a civil war.
03:44:35.000 You had 25,000 armed men.
03:44:37.000 And if you start turning, if you choose violence as your solution, you're going to get violence in return.
03:44:43.000 Yeah.
03:44:44.000 And that's what NATO wants, too.
03:44:45.000 Yeah.
03:44:46.000 He hates NATO more than he hates him.
03:44:47.000 Notice that the CIA briefed Congress after the fact that they said, we expected more violence.
03:44:53.000 That means that they expected this and they expected it to be violent.
03:44:56.000 And Putin did his best to make sure that the violence was minimized.
03:44:59.000 Yeah.
03:45:00.000 Speaking of which, that's what I was going to ask you about.
03:45:02.000 The USS Liberty.
03:45:03.000 People were bringing that up in the chat.
03:45:05.000 If you guys want more knowledge on this, definitely go check out the documentary, NUMEC, from Ryan Dawson, where he talks about how Israel stole the nuclear bomb, etc.
03:45:15.000 He touches on the USS Liberty, but do you want to give the people a quick overview on that?
03:45:19.000 Well, the USS Liberty was a U.S. Navy...
03:45:23.000 Electronic surveillance ship is a spy ship working for the National Security Agency.
03:45:26.000 It was monitoring the...
03:45:28.000 I didn't know that.
03:45:29.000 It was working under the NSA. Yeah.
03:45:31.000 It...
03:45:32.000 The...
03:45:34.000 It was monitoring the 1967 or the Six-Day War, the Israelis fighting the Egyptians and...
03:45:42.000 For the Suez Canal, right?
03:45:43.000 Yep.
03:45:44.000 And...
03:45:45.000 Basically, the Israelis...
03:45:47.000 Would you say...
03:45:48.000 And I'm sorry to interrupt.
03:45:48.000 Would you say that the War of the Suez Canal is what fucked...
03:45:52.000 England up and made it lose its reserve currency status?
03:45:55.000 Well, that was 56.
03:45:56.000 What we're talking here is 66.
03:45:59.000 Sorry.
03:45:59.000 Yeah, yeah.
03:46:00.000 That was prior.
03:46:00.000 My bad.
03:46:01.000 My bad.
03:46:02.000 But the Israelis attacked it.
03:46:05.000 It was a deliberate attack.
03:46:07.000 There's no doubt about it.
03:46:08.000 The Israelis knew it was an American ship.
03:46:09.000 They attacked it.
03:46:10.000 Not one, not two, three, several times.
03:46:14.000 Here's the thing about the Liberty.
03:46:18.000 We're not at war, right?
03:46:20.000 Mm-hmm.
03:46:22.000 The captain got a Medal of Honor.
03:46:24.000 Wait, what?
03:46:26.000 The silver stars were issued by the handful, bronze stars, purple hearts, the men that fought on the liberty, and they were issued the highest awards for heroism in America, combat awards.
03:46:38.000 Oh, so they were able to fire back at the planes that dropped bombs on them?
03:46:41.000 Well, they tried, but it's also not just about firing back.
03:46:43.000 It was about saving lives.
03:46:45.000 It was about performance under fire, performance under duty.
03:46:48.000 The point is, the Navy knows what happened.
03:46:50.000 The ship was attacked.
03:46:52.000 This was a combat mission.
03:46:55.000 It became a combat mission because the Israelis were seeking to sink the ship.
03:47:00.000 And like I said, a Medal of Honor was issued because of this fighting, because of this incident.
03:47:06.000 Silver stars were issued, bronze stars, heroism awards.
03:47:09.000 And yet, We don't treat it as a combat action because we can't admit that Israel attacked a U.S. Navy ship.
03:47:18.000 We seek to minimize this.
03:47:21.000 Nobody talks about the liberty.
03:47:23.000 Nobody talks about the fact that they were calling out SOS, SOS, we're under attack, we're under attack.
03:47:28.000 We had aircraft carriers in range that could have launched airplanes to save lives.
03:47:33.000 But the airplanes were called back because we didn't want to have a conflict with Israel.
03:47:37.000 So we allowed the final attack to take place of the torpedo boats against the Liberty that killed even more Americans.
03:47:44.000 This was murder by the part of the Israelis.
03:47:47.000 Why did they attack the USS Liberty?
03:47:49.000 That's the big question.
03:47:51.000 Nobody knows?
03:47:51.000 Well, the Israelis know, but they say it was a mistake, mistaken identity.
03:47:56.000 I think they attacked it because the Liberty was intercepting signals that showed that the Israelis were killing Egyptian prisoners of war.
03:48:03.000 Mmm.
03:48:05.000 Damn.
03:48:06.000 And that would have...
03:48:08.000 That would have compromised them significantly.
03:48:11.000 Well, I mean, we now know that they were killing Egyptian prisoners.
03:48:15.000 But at the time, it would have been a bad look.
03:48:19.000 It would have, you know, it could have...
03:48:22.000 Messed with some treaties and agreements that were put in place.
03:48:24.000 Right.
03:48:25.000 And, you know, with the benefit of hindsight, we now can speak, you know, definitively about this happening, this happening.
03:48:32.000 But remember, this is during war with the fog of war taking place.
03:48:35.000 You know, there were no guarantees that the United States was going to be the ally of Israel, especially if Israel turned around and slaughtered Egyptian prisoners of war.
03:48:44.000 So the feeling of the Israelis was you have to sink the ship.
03:48:47.000 You know what's even worse?
03:48:49.000 The surviving members of the USS Liberty were all given gag orders, and they couldn't speak on what happened.
03:48:55.000 And Lyndon B. Johnson, the president at the time, was who issued these gag orders on these people.
03:49:02.000 And then doing some research, again, I gotta shout out Ryan Dawson, man.
03:49:05.000 The guy fucking doesn't miss anything.
03:49:07.000 He doesn't miss anything.
03:49:08.000 He found out.
03:49:10.000 Lyndon B. Johnson's aunt was a hardcore Zionist.
03:49:16.000 And he was affiliated with a Zionist organization.
03:49:19.000 And he made everyone that was involved in the U.S.'s liberty.
03:49:23.000 Let me guess.
03:49:24.000 Ryan also probably found a relationship there in the missing plutonium from Pantex.
03:49:31.000 Probably.
03:49:31.000 He also found that the woman that he was having an affair with was an Israeli terrorist.
03:49:40.000 That LBJ was having an affair with?
03:49:42.000 Yeah, it was a woman.
03:49:44.000 Man, I could play the clip if y'all want me to.
03:49:47.000 If you guys want me to, I can find the clip and play it for you guys out of Numek, man.
03:49:52.000 Give me ones in the chat.
03:49:53.000 If y'all want me to, I'll play it for y'all and you guys can see what I'm talking about.
03:49:57.000 But, yeah, sorry, I didn't want to interrupt you.
03:49:59.000 No, no, no, no.
03:49:59.000 I'm just saying that the Liberty, getting back on the Liberty, it's...
03:50:03.000 This was a crime against America.
03:50:05.000 Americans were killed.
03:50:07.000 It was an attack on America.
03:50:09.000 But we don't treat it as such.
03:50:11.000 Because it's Israel.
03:50:12.000 Israel gets special treatment.
03:50:15.000 Pollard got special treatment.
03:50:17.000 Even though he was prosecuted, we didn't hold Israel accountable for what was done.
03:50:22.000 We treat Israel as a close and loyal ally.
03:50:26.000 I'm just going to go put the clip on.
03:50:28.000 You can keep talking about the USS Liberty and Latvia.
03:50:31.000 Because, yeah, this is something that no one, it's been erased from the history books.
03:50:34.000 Like, there's certain things, I don't know if you guys noticed this, I remember one time I googled the Havara agreement.
03:50:39.000 You have to type in the whole fucking thing for it to pop up on Google.
03:50:43.000 Yeah.
03:50:43.000 USS Liberty, you gotta type the whole thing for it to pop up on Google.
03:50:46.000 There's certain things that they will not aid you in finding.
03:50:49.000 And I was like, what the fuck, man?
03:50:52.000 Like, alright, let me, I'll pull this up real quick.
03:50:57.000 Well, here I am.
03:50:58.000 I've got the mic.
03:51:00.000 You're the only host now.
03:51:01.000 I'm the only host.
03:51:02.000 I'm holding the show down.
03:51:07.000 Again, I'm somebody who considers Israel to be a state that has a right to exist.
03:51:14.000 I consider myself to be a friend of Israel.
03:51:18.000 But that doesn't mean Israel can get away with murder.
03:51:20.000 I operate under the notion that friends don't let friends drive drunk.
03:51:25.000 And oftentimes I compare Israel to a nation drunk on hubris, arrogance.
03:51:31.000 And as a friend, sometimes you've got to go in and stop the vehicle and take the keys out of the ignition and stop the momentum.
03:51:38.000 And Israel right now is a nation that's heading straight off the cliff, straight off the abyss.
03:51:43.000 And as a friend of Israel, we need to say, that's enough.
03:51:48.000 Slow down.
03:51:49.000 Stop.
03:51:50.000 How can you be friends with a nation that attacked your fellow Americans, that attacked the USS Liberty, and won't apologize for it, won't acknowledge the wrongdoing?
03:52:04.000 It would be one thing if they said, yes, we did it, we're sorry, forgive us.
03:52:08.000 But they pretend as if this was an accident.
03:52:10.000 They want it to go away.
03:52:12.000 And the thing about not recognizing it as what it was, what it is, is that that creates the real possibility that it could happen again.
03:52:21.000 And that's my concern with Israel.
03:52:23.000 Yep.
03:52:29.000 Okay.
03:52:31.000 I think we're going to run the clip now.
03:52:33.000 Yes, we are.
03:52:42.000 Almost like some faction knew he was so compromised that they could even attack an American ship and murder U.S. servicemen without consequence.
03:52:51.000 Oh, and they did.
03:52:55.000 And once again, LBJ, other than grabbing his ankles for Israel, did little other than...
03:53:02.000 You can also tell me when to pause or play if you have any side comments.
03:53:08.000 Issuing a gag order on the American survivors.
03:53:12.000 Wow, somebody really wanted Kennedy out and LBJN. I guess it was Cuba.
03:53:18.000 Not.
03:53:20.000 Note.
03:53:21.000 On the first anniversary of the Six-Day War, RFK was murdered, allegedly by a Palestinian.
03:53:28.000 Uh-huh.
03:53:29.000 The Kennedys had put pressure on the American Zionist Council for Public Affairs, now known as APAC, American Israel Public Affairs Committee.
03:53:38.000 In 1963, the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations hearings revealed that the American Zionist Council had laundered over $5 million of Jewish agency funds into lobbying activities.
03:53:51.000 The American Zionist Council simply dodged the Foreign Agent Registration Act order by moving all of its major functions to AIPAC, and umbrella organizations like the ZOA and Hadash became permanent members of AIPAC's executive committee.
03:54:06.000 Once Johnson was in office, Israel had an unchecked foreign lobby with no resistance, free to bribe their way into further power.
03:54:13.000 AIPAC is currently the most powerful lobby in D.C. Now, to pick up on Grant's comments, he indicated that...
03:54:24.000 Yeah, I mean, guys, shit is real, man.
03:54:27.000 Like, it's wild, you know, with the whole U.S.'s liberty situation.
03:54:32.000 And a lot of people don't know about that, that both the Kennedys were trying to get Israel to...
03:54:38.000 You can put it down, Mo.
03:54:40.000 You can bring us up now.
03:54:42.000 They were trying to get them to register under Farah, which obviously would cause them a lot of issues for the Zionist organizations.
03:54:49.000 Well, Kennedy was also putting pressure on Israel to allow nuclear inspections, and that didn't work out either.
03:54:56.000 Yeah.
03:54:56.000 You know, I wish RFK, when he went on Rogan, he talked about every other thing that Kennedy was doing that got him killed, except for his situation with Ben Gurion in Israel, the nuclear bombs, Farah.
03:55:09.000 He didn't mention any of that on Rogan.
03:55:12.000 And I don't know why he didn't.
03:55:14.000 Well, you know why he didn't.
03:55:15.000 Yeah.
03:55:16.000 I wish he did, because he's so outspoken about COVID. He's so outspoken about everything else.
03:55:21.000 But he avoided that.
03:55:23.000 He did not want to talk about FARA. He did not want to talk about the nuclear bomb.
03:55:29.000 None of that, dude.
03:55:31.000 And I was like, come on, man.
03:55:32.000 Like, the coincidence is they gave them 72 hours or 24 hours to answer to the FARA request, and a month later, Kennedy is killed.
03:55:42.000 And then RFK, who's their attorney general of the United States, also gets killed.
03:55:47.000 Yeah.
03:55:48.000 Trying to get these guys to register under FARA. Well, maybe RFK Jr.
03:55:54.000 doesn't want to get killed.
03:55:55.000 Yeah, I guess so.
03:55:56.000 I guess so, man.
03:55:57.000 I guess so.
03:55:57.000 But it's just, hey, man.
03:55:59.000 Yeah, you guys are getting the real size.
03:56:00.000 We got 14,000 plus of you guys in here.
03:56:02.000 Is there anything else that you wanted to chat about?
03:56:04.000 I mean, we'll be going now for three and a half.
03:56:07.000 You're giving the people the value.
03:56:08.000 I'm here for you.
03:56:09.000 Yeah, hey, man.
03:56:10.000 Let's see what questions they got, and then if they got anything good, we'll answer it.
03:56:13.000 We'll do a Q&A part, and then we'll close out.
03:56:16.000 We discussed so much stuff, man.
03:56:17.000 This is a great, great interview.
03:56:18.000 Definitely, I'd love to have you back on.
03:56:20.000 I think the people really enjoyed it.
03:56:22.000 Numek, oh yeah, we got you.
03:56:23.000 We got you.
03:56:24.000 The reason why, if you guys notice, I played it from YouTube.
03:56:27.000 I'm going to drop it on FedReacts.
03:56:28.000 I talk about Ryan about this.
03:56:29.000 I want to make sure that documentary gets as much exposure as possible.
03:56:32.000 Yeah, I posted this earlier.
03:56:34.000 Oh, okay.
03:56:34.000 Shout out to you.
03:56:35.000 I had to go, because I timestamped this, so I had to go find that exact part about the Lyndon B. Johnson part.
03:56:40.000 That shit blew me away.
03:56:42.000 The special relationship.
03:56:42.000 Our president, pardon their spies.
03:56:45.000 I think this is Ryan Dawson.
03:56:47.000 No, that's not him.
03:56:48.000 Okay.
03:56:50.000 Court Marshall, Mark Milley.
03:56:51.000 Yep, Ryan, that was from Dawson.
03:56:53.000 Shout out to you.
03:56:54.000 What the fluoride?
03:56:56.000 You guys are the true patriots for talking about the real issues.
03:56:58.000 We got you, bro.
03:57:00.000 I will say this.
03:57:01.000 I give Alex Jones.
03:57:02.000 He did talk about them putting that shit in the water, making the frogs gay, and then they found later on that it does, in fact, feminize the frogs.
03:57:08.000 Look, I mean...
03:57:09.000 RFK talked about it later.
03:57:11.000 Yeah.
03:57:13.000 Life sometimes is stranger than fiction.
03:57:16.000 Holy shit, man.
03:57:18.000 What else?
03:57:19.000 What else here do we got, Mo?
03:57:20.000 Or is we caught up?
03:57:21.000 No.
03:57:21.000 Okay.
03:57:22.000 Guys, get your questions in now.
03:57:24.000 We're wrapping up here.
03:57:25.000 We're going to do a last Q&A part.
03:57:27.000 Stock slash crypto trader.
03:57:28.000 Doing quite well for myself, but I can't help feel that there is something I'm missing regarding correlation between markets and geopolitical events.
03:57:35.000 Any important things to know?
03:57:36.000 Well, what I would say is this...
03:57:40.000 Take a look at everything they wanted to happen to the Russian economy that didn't happen to the Russian economy and ask yourself why it didn't happen to the Russian economy.
03:57:49.000 It's because we don't know and understand the Russian economy.
03:57:53.000 And so what I mean by that is if you're relying on data inputs from the West, from the United States, from Europe, to draw conclusions about what's happening in a non-European For instance,
03:58:10.000 Russia, China, Africa.
03:58:27.000 Follow Russia's foreign ministry as he goes around.
03:58:30.000 Take a look at that.
03:58:31.000 Go to the St.
03:58:33.000 Petersburg International Economic Forum and take a look at the contracts that are being developed there.
03:58:38.000 That's your lead.
03:58:39.000 You gave a little bit of a gem earlier.
03:58:41.000 You mentioned a city.
03:58:43.000 It's up to you if you want to drop it.
03:58:44.000 Novosibirsk was the city.
03:58:46.000 Novosibirsk?
03:58:47.000 Novosibirsk.
03:58:49.000 Largest growing city economically in Russia right now.
03:58:55.000 And again, I mean, right now because of sanctions, it's impossible to do investments.
03:58:59.000 But, you know, it doesn't stop you from, for instance, trying to find out where Russians are investing outside of Russia.
03:59:09.000 It's growth.
03:59:10.000 It's growth.
03:59:26.000 Oh, they mentioned BRIC earlier.
03:59:27.000 What are your thoughts on BRICs?
03:59:30.000 Do you think we're going to lose reserve currency status soon?
03:59:35.000 Well, it's not going to be soon because it's going to take...
03:59:37.000 Well, I think the dollar's on the way out.
03:59:39.000 I think the United States has a lot of punch left in it.
03:59:42.000 We can still go in a ring and do some damage.
03:59:47.000 So I'm not going to count the United States out, but what I won't do is what other people do, especially old...
03:59:58.000 We're good to go.
04:00:13.000 Then the dollar could go by, especially if we don't change the way we use the dollar.
04:00:18.000 If we continue to punish people for using the dollar through sanctions, they're going to run away from the dollar.
04:00:24.000 If we continue to steal nation's sovereign wealth that was accrued because they bought into the dollar as the International currency reserve, then people are going to say, well, then we don't want to use the dollar.
04:00:38.000 So we're our own worst enemies.
04:00:40.000 We can extend the lifespan of the dollar if we just change our approach to how we interface with the rest of the world economically, but we don't because we're arrogant and we've bought into a system that may have worked 30 years ago, but it's not working today, this rules-based international order.
04:00:57.000 It's a thing of the past.
04:00:58.000 If you're not looking at China, if you're not looking at Russia, if you're not looking at Eurasia, if you're not looking at Africa, you're looking at the wrong things.
04:01:07.000 Damn.
04:01:07.000 All right.
04:01:10.000 We got here.
04:01:11.000 That's Jay Rue.
04:01:12.000 If we ever take America back, it will be because of people like you all.
04:01:15.000 Amen.
04:01:16.000 America first, my friends.
04:01:17.000 I'm a little confused about America.
04:01:18.000 You claim them to be the enemy, but a lot of others claim that Jews have taken over America government.
04:01:23.000 So who is making the calls here?
04:01:24.000 Also, didn't America fund Taliban's?
04:01:27.000 Bunch of questions there.
04:01:28.000 Well, the Taliban...
04:01:29.000 I can't say that we funded the Taliban.
04:01:34.000 We funded the Mujahideen.
04:01:35.000 We talked about them earlier.
04:01:36.000 Which is Al-Qaeda.
04:01:37.000 The Taliban didn't start out as the Mujahideen.
04:01:41.000 The Taliban also began as a...
04:01:43.000 It's short for Talib, which is a Muslim student.
04:01:47.000 It's a term for student.
04:01:48.000 And the original head of the Taliban, Mullah Omar...
04:01:52.000 It was a former Mujahideen who operated in Kandahar, and he had a school where he was teaching people, basically old-school Wahhabist Islam.
04:02:07.000 A family came, had been stopped at a roadblock that was put together by these warlords, and they stole the daughter, the warlords.
04:02:20.000 And you know what they were going to do to the daughter.
04:02:22.000 Of course.
04:02:23.000 So the family came and said, our daughter's been stolen.
04:02:26.000 Can you help?
04:02:27.000 And Mullah Omar and the Tlaib went and rescued the daughter and executed the people who committed the crime.
04:02:35.000 The word got around.
04:02:36.000 So people started coming to them and saying, hey, this is happening.
04:02:39.000 This is happening.
04:02:40.000 So the Tlaib became sort of a religious police force.
04:02:43.000 Yeah.
04:02:43.000 Boom.
04:02:44.000 And as they moved on, Other warlords went, I think we've seen the writing on the wall, and they'd come over to the Tlaib.
04:02:50.000 But these might have been former Mujahideen that the United States had funded at one time.
04:02:55.000 So that might be where...
04:02:56.000 That's where he's getting at.
04:02:57.000 But gradually the Taliban, the movement, became this massive movement of people who were...
04:03:03.000 It's cause and effect relationship.
04:03:05.000 They were responding to the lawlessness that had taken over Afghanistan in the aftermath of the war against the Soviet Union, that period of time after the Soviets left the collapse of the Afghan government.
04:03:17.000 There was this civil war taking place between the We're good to go.
04:03:43.000 And then he says, you claim them to be the enemy, but a lot of others claim that Jews have taken over American government.
04:03:49.000 No, it's not that they have taken over.
04:03:51.000 It's that they have strong influence within American politics to make sure that American politics...
04:04:00.000 Are involved in the preservation, protection, and benefit of Israel, even if it sometimes doesn't always benefit the United States full well.
04:04:09.000 You know what I mean?
04:04:10.000 That's what I would say.
04:04:11.000 Any politician that comes into power has to have Israeli interests somewhere in their, I guess, what do I want to say here?
04:04:21.000 Their repertoire.
04:04:23.000 100%.
04:04:23.000 Their political repertoire.
04:04:24.000 In 1999, I was approached by Jack Kemp.
04:04:32.000 He was a big-time Republican.
04:04:35.000 He was the Secretary of Housing, Urban and Development under Reagan.
04:04:40.000 He was a Congressman from Buffalo, New York, former professional football player for the Buffalo Bills.
04:04:46.000 And by the time he approached me, he was seen as being somewhat of a kingmaker for the Republican Party.
04:04:53.000 And he said, we want you to consider running for Congress.
04:04:59.000 And I said, I have no interest in running for Congress.
04:05:02.000 And he said, well, come and talk to us.
04:05:04.000 I said, okay.
04:05:04.000 So I went to a house in Westchester, New York, and there were a lot of people there.
04:05:12.000 Many of them were from the—I mean, many of them were Old Hill Anglo-Saxon wasp money.
04:05:20.000 But many of them I knew from— My experience after my resignation when I was courted by APAC and courted by...
04:05:29.000 The boys.
04:05:31.000 The money.
04:05:32.000 And basically, they had come together and the decision was that they were going to fund my run for Congress, that they were going to pick a district, a safe district, that I'd be guaranteed shoo-in.
04:05:44.000 But the interesting thing is...
04:05:48.000 They never approached me about my position on Israel because it was assumed that I was a friend of Israel, that I would never do anything to question.
04:05:59.000 I wish they had asked me questions because I could have disabused them of that.
04:06:02.000 Instead, we had a discussion about two topics because they were all sitting there going, we love you, we love you.
04:06:08.000 I said, you don't even know me.
04:06:09.000 Who am I? Well, they knew what you had done before, right, for Israel before with the Iraqi situation.
04:06:14.000 But the other guys are going, You're the best thing since sliced bread.
04:06:18.000 You're wonderful.
04:06:18.000 I said, well, ask me two questions then.
04:06:21.000 And Jack Kemp's going, no, no, no, don't do this.
04:06:24.000 Don't do it.
04:06:25.000 It's a done deal.
04:06:25.000 Yeah.
04:06:26.000 No, you're in.
04:06:27.000 Shut up.
04:06:27.000 I said, ask me two questions.
04:06:29.000 He said, well, I said, ask me my opinion on abortion.
04:06:33.000 They said, what's your opinion on abortion?
04:06:35.000 And I said, you know, I'm the father of twin daughters.
04:06:38.000 I can't imagine life without them.
04:06:40.000 I can't imagine anything that would have prevented them from coming in.
04:06:44.000 So I believe in the sanctity of life.
04:06:47.000 I believe that they had to come into this world.
04:06:51.000 I couldn't imagine terminating that pregnancy and all that.
04:06:55.000 They're like, yeah, baby, yeah, baby.
04:06:57.000 And then I said, but it's not my choice.
04:07:00.000 I said, I don't get to make that decision.
04:07:02.000 It's sort of the woman who's carrying the baby's decision.
04:07:05.000 She gets a vote.
04:07:06.000 She gets a vote on this one.
04:07:08.000 They're like, no, that's the wrong answer.
04:07:10.000 I said, well, ask me another one.
04:07:11.000 I said, okay.
04:07:12.000 Ask me about gun control.
04:07:15.000 I said, how about that?
04:07:16.000 I said, I love guns, man.
04:07:17.000 I'm a Marine.
04:07:18.000 It goes bang.
04:07:19.000 I love it.
04:07:20.000 Give me a gun.
04:07:20.000 Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
04:07:23.000 There it is.
04:07:23.000 Boom.
04:07:24.000 But I said, Not everybody should have a gun.
04:07:29.000 A gun is a responsible thing.
04:07:30.000 I said, I'm a big believer that you've got to have training if you're going to use a firearm.
04:07:35.000 I'm not against registering your firearms.
04:07:37.000 We register just about everything else.
04:07:39.000 I think we need to treat guns with the respect that they demand.
04:07:42.000 Felons can't have them.
04:07:43.000 Criminals, yeah.
04:07:44.000 And so he's like, they're like, crowd disappeared.
04:07:48.000 Just dispersed.
04:07:49.000 Jack Kemp's going...
04:07:51.000 You were there, man.
04:07:52.000 You were there.
04:07:52.000 And I said, I was never there, Jack, because I can't play the game.
04:07:56.000 Yeah.
04:07:57.000 Fair enough.
04:07:57.000 The political game.
04:07:59.000 Compromising what you believe in.
04:08:00.000 I can't.
04:08:01.000 I'm not saying that my position is right.
04:08:03.000 People can disagree with me.
04:08:04.000 Of course.
04:08:04.000 I'm saying it's my position.
04:08:05.000 It's your position.
04:08:06.000 Yeah.
04:08:06.000 And so if I was going to be elected into Congress and you're anticipating that I'm going to take a different position, I can't.
04:08:12.000 It can't be bought.
04:08:13.000 Amen.
04:08:14.000 It is what it is, man.
04:08:16.000 What else here do we got?
04:08:19.000 A few more of these chats.
04:08:22.000 Are we in continuity of government currently?
04:08:25.000 Why did Biden have a three-gun salute and not a 21 like Trump?
04:08:29.000 Why was he sworn into office before 12 in violation of the Constitution?
04:08:34.000 I can't answer any of those questions.
04:08:35.000 Yeah, that's unique stuff.
04:08:37.000 Rives goes, Hey Scott, Team ANC report here.
04:08:39.000 Have you spoken to Douglas Valentine and the CIA having a hand in Ukraine?
04:08:42.000 And do you think they are involved in the Maidan massacre?
04:08:47.000 I haven't spoken to Douglas Valentine.
04:08:49.000 I'll be more than happy to.
04:08:50.000 I do believe the CIA has an extensive hand in what's going on in Ukraine.
04:08:54.000 Who's Doug Valentine?
04:08:54.000 Apparently he's somebody who deals with the CIA. I don't know.
04:08:57.000 I'm going to have to do the research on this and find out who he is.
04:09:01.000 Fair enough.
04:09:02.000 Do I think the CIA was involved in the Maidan massacre?
04:09:06.000 Yes, absolutely.
04:09:06.000 The CIA had a relationship with the Western Ukrainian nationalists.
04:09:12.000 The Nazis.
04:09:13.000 The Nazis.
04:09:14.000 Bingo.
04:09:16.000 You know, the CIA is involved with that group, and I think the CIA was involved in providing assistance, providing guidance, etc.
04:09:28.000 These are the people that broke into police stations and barracks in western Ukraine and took weapons and brought those weapons to Kiev and turned what had been a peaceful protest into a violent demonstration.
04:09:41.000 Okay.
04:09:42.000 We got here, Taufik goes, what does Scott think about the Egyptian soldier who went across the Egyptian-Israeli border and shine, killed three Israeli soldiers, WFNF and free top G's?
04:09:56.000 I don't know enough about that.
04:09:57.000 What I do know is that it's not as black and white as people think that there might have been something about smuggling and that the Israelis were actually involved in illegal smuggling operations and that the Egyptian soldier was investigating the smuggling thing and he got caught up in breaking up the wrong thing.
04:10:13.000 It's not as black and white.
04:10:15.000 Some people think that it was about him going across and just murdering Israelis, but apparently when people look at the videotape, there's some strange smuggling stuff going on.
04:10:27.000 Interesting.
04:10:28.000 And guys, we're not here talking about, oh yeah, you know, fuck Israel and Jews need to die.
04:10:33.000 Absolutely not, man.
04:10:33.000 I mean, it's literally a...
04:10:37.000 It's terrible.
04:10:37.000 It's any time anyone loses their life.
04:10:39.000 You know, I mean, obviously, I wish there was peace in the Middle East.
04:10:42.000 But realistically speaking, I just don't see it happening.
04:10:44.000 There's been too much bloodshed.
04:10:45.000 There's been too much history.
04:10:47.000 The Palestinians aren't going to back down.
04:10:49.000 The Israelis are going to back down.
04:10:50.000 Both parties feel as though they're entitled to that land and they're not going to stop.
04:10:54.000 You know what I mean?
04:10:54.000 So it's just an unfortunate situation.
04:10:56.000 But hey, we're just reporting facts here.
04:10:58.000 Professor Ritter, honor your integrity to the U.S. secrets.
04:11:01.000 You've probably seen some crazy shit out there.
04:11:04.000 What is the proper balance of releasing information, and when did them boys get some power?
04:11:07.000 Them boys is how we refer to the Jews.
04:11:10.000 When we're on YouTube, we do that and hit the sound effect.
04:11:15.000 Well, I mean, I would say that to answer the part about when did the Israeli influence, Jewish influence, and government...
04:11:28.000 Started organized crime, I would say, in the early 1900s.
04:11:30.000 Yeah, yeah, but, you know, Italians had organized crime.
04:11:34.000 Yeah, lucky Luciano working hand-in-hand with Mayor Lansky and controlling the ports and, you know, and then the surplus weapons of the United States from World War II being shipped back to Israel.
04:11:44.000 I mean, those all had a critical component in them being able to beat the Palestinians and take over and create an Israeli state.
04:11:50.000 It wasn't until after the Six-Day War, though, that Israel became a vehicle of empowerment for American Jews.
04:11:58.000 Prior to that, American Jews were actually sort of standoffish on Israel.
04:12:02.000 They didn't know quite what to make of it, etc.
04:12:04.000 It wasn't a thing yet.
04:12:06.000 I think it took the Six-Day War to...
04:12:12.000 It's when the Israelis defeated the combined armies of Syria, Jordan, and Egypt, and they got this status of being this superpower and all this stuff.
04:12:29.000 Jerusalem now was under Israeli control, and so religious Jews began.
04:12:35.000 And I think at that point, the dynamic changed on how Israel and Jewishness was treated in America.
04:12:46.000 And it's sad because if you look at Islam and Judaism, they're very closely linked together.
04:12:51.000 I mean, we both believe in one God.
04:12:54.000 Muslims can eat kosher meat versus we can't eat meat prepared by other religions if it's not slaughtered a certain way.
04:13:05.000 It's sad that we have so many similarities, but so many differences as well, and they can't get along.
04:13:10.000 No, I mean, my understanding is Islam, you know, Jewish and Christians are people of the book.
04:13:19.000 Yeah, I mean, all the Abrahamic religions, right?
04:13:21.000 Christianity, Judaism, Islam.
04:13:24.000 But yeah, especially with Islam and Judaism, it's very similar.
04:13:27.000 Well, I don't think the problem is Judaism anymore.
04:13:29.000 I think the problem is Zionism.
04:13:31.000 Yeah.
04:13:31.000 That's the problem.
04:13:32.000 It's not that Jewish people can't get along with Muslim people.
04:13:35.000 Zionists can't get along with Muslim people.
04:13:38.000 Even better distinction.
04:13:39.000 Yes, absolutely.
04:13:40.000 You're correct.
04:13:42.000 Because there's a lot of Jewish people that aren't Zionists.
04:13:44.000 Oh, no, no, no.
04:13:45.000 And this is where I don't disagree with you on how difficult peace will be.
04:13:51.000 But I think the more Zionism can be de-emphasized and de-legitimized without Seeking to delegitimize Jewishness,
04:14:07.000 the better chance we have at peace.
04:14:09.000 The more that Jews and Muslims don't view each other as incompatible, but rather view each other the way they should be under history, which are people of the book, people who...
04:14:21.000 And this goes back to what you were saying, how Orthodox Jews were the number one enemy of Israel because they were anti-Zionist, if I'm not mistaken.
04:14:30.000 Yes.
04:14:32.000 That was a bombshell, by the way, when you dropped that, man.
04:14:34.000 I don't know how we're going to get rid of Israel.
04:14:37.000 And this was in the 90s, just for the audience that might have missed that.
04:14:39.000 In the 90s, the top enemy for Israel was Orthodox Jews.
04:14:44.000 Not Iraq, not Syria.
04:14:46.000 You played a hand in, actually, Iraq going down the list and priorities.
04:14:50.000 That's crazy, bro.
04:14:51.000 But the Israelis, you know...
04:14:55.000 Zionism is the problem.
04:14:56.000 Not because I'm saying that the Israeli state can't exist.
04:15:00.000 First of all, it does exist.
04:15:02.000 And it's a reality.
04:15:03.000 It's recognized now.
04:15:05.000 And it has to be a reality forever.
04:15:07.000 The concept of make Israel disappear just isn't a realistic solution.
04:15:12.000 No, not anymore.
04:15:14.000 But the Zionists, by embracing the concept of a Jewish-only state and stuff...
04:15:23.000 See, that's being exclusionary of the Palestinians.
04:15:26.000 It's true.
04:15:27.000 And so until you find a way...
04:15:29.000 And they were there first at the end of the day.
04:15:30.000 Yeah, until you find...
04:15:31.000 But even then, I encourage people to drop that argument because it's not constructive.
04:15:36.000 Yeah.
04:15:37.000 Because that then implies that because they were there first, maybe we can consider a situation where these Jewish people aren't there anymore.
04:15:43.000 No.
04:15:43.000 They're there.
04:15:44.000 Yeah.
04:15:45.000 All that.
04:15:45.000 The Palestinians have equal claim to the land.
04:15:48.000 Yep.
04:15:48.000 What we have to do is find a way that they...
04:15:52.000 This is the danger of Zionism.
04:15:54.000 Zionism creates a world where Palestinian rights aren't allowed to factor in because the only rights then become that of the Jews.
04:16:05.000 Yeah.
04:16:06.000 You have to defeat that.
04:16:08.000 That's why defeating Zionism is so important.
04:16:10.000 When I say defeating Zionism, I'm not saying defeating Israel.
04:16:13.000 I'm not saying make Israel go away.
04:16:15.000 What I'm saying is getting rid of the mindset that says only Jews can live here.
04:16:20.000 And the people that have caused the most problems for the Israelis are these Russian and Ukrainian immigrants that came in in the 1990s and afterwards.
04:16:29.000 Because they don't respect the Palestinians.
04:16:32.000 They don't respect the history of the region.
04:16:35.000 They came in and they don't identify with the Palestinians.
04:16:38.000 They say, we're Jews.
04:16:40.000 We're the ones that matter.
04:16:41.000 This land is ours.
04:16:42.000 This land is for us.
04:16:43.000 And they're very dismissive.
04:16:44.000 And it's been very disruptive of Israel.
04:16:47.000 And it's made it almost impossible for peace.
04:16:51.000 Crazy, man.
04:16:53.000 And it's wild because if you talk about these things on YouTube, you're canceled.
04:16:58.000 Yeah.
04:16:59.000 Thoughts on Nick Fuentes, the future president of America?
04:17:01.000 Okay.
04:17:02.000 He's going to be on...
04:17:04.000 We're going to have him on July 7th, guys.
04:17:07.000 So, shout out to Nick Fuentes.
04:17:09.000 I don't agree with everything he says, but he is right about a lot of things, and I do agree that if you can't be a contract here, I don't think you could be America, first of all, simultaneously calling yourself a Zionist.
04:17:19.000 It just doesn't work.
04:17:21.000 But the thing about listening to people, I don't know Nick Fuentes from Adam.
04:17:25.000 I mean, I know who he is, but I don't know him.
04:17:27.000 But the beauty of it is, if you claim to be an American, a citizen of the United States of America, that means that you're somebody who adheres to the Constitution.
04:17:42.000 And the First Amendment is free speech.
04:17:45.000 And the key thing about free speech isn't just our ability to speak freely.
04:17:50.000 But it's our ability to speak freely in the context of constructive civil dialogues, debate, dialogue and discussion.
04:17:57.000 That means that people who have differences of opinion, rather than shouting it out, Talk it out as humans, as men, as women, as equals, and be respectful of differences of opinion.
04:18:11.000 Focus on fact, not on ideologies, feelings.
04:18:17.000 Because facts will generally lead you in the right direction.
04:18:19.000 The other thing about facts do is they will better identify the differences that you have so that you can, in a civil fashion, seek to find a common solution.
04:18:31.000 We could solve half the problems that America faces today if we would just sit down and treat each other with respect and have dialogues, have discussions.
04:18:40.000 Prioritize truth over feelings.
04:18:42.000 I mean, look at the fucking clown rule we got with the 99 genders.
04:18:46.000 Don't get me going.
04:18:48.000 Because that's the other thing that's going to get me killed.
04:18:51.000 I have to tell you, traveling to Russia was...
04:18:55.000 None of that fuckery over there.
04:18:57.000 Oh, none of it.
04:18:58.000 It's not tolerant.
04:18:59.000 Two genders.
04:19:00.000 But here's the thing about the Russians.
04:19:02.000 They get a bad rap about homosexuality.
04:19:05.000 They say, oh, the Russians are intolerant of homosexuality.
04:19:08.000 That's just not true.
04:19:10.000 The Russian approach on homosexuality is very simple.
04:19:14.000 What you do in your bedrooms is your own damn business.
04:19:16.000 We don't care.
04:19:18.000 What we don't want is for you to come out and attack traditional family values and seek to supplant it.
04:19:26.000 Don't come for the children.
04:19:27.000 Don't come for the nuclear family.
04:19:29.000 You do what you want to do.
04:19:31.000 And when you're out here We know who you are, and we're not going to...
04:19:37.000 There are many...
04:19:38.000 I mean, the guys were telling me, hardcore Russian nuclear family people, they're like, we know who the gays are.
04:19:46.000 And we're friends with them.
04:19:47.000 They have high positions.
04:19:48.000 We don't care.
04:19:50.000 As long as they don't turn it into a movement that says...
04:19:55.000 You know, traditional family values are supplanted, that this becomes the thing, all that.
04:20:00.000 And that's all that the Russians are doing.
04:20:02.000 And the other thing that the Russians say is, you know, the more the West seeks to try and push diverse politics, the more harm they do to homosexual and transgender communities in Russia.
04:20:15.000 That if you just let the Russians do their business, there will be harmony.
04:20:21.000 Yeah.
04:20:22.000 But the second you try to promote something, now you've turned it into a threat.
04:20:26.000 Keep your degeneracy to yourself is really what it comes down to.
04:20:29.000 What you do in your bedroom is what you do in your bedroom.
04:20:32.000 As long as no one's getting hurt and everybody's a consenting adult, it's your business.
04:20:37.000 When you bring it out into the street, I don't know.
04:20:40.000 I mean, this last Pride Parade thing that happened in America just saddened me, to be honest.
04:20:47.000 What do we got here?
04:20:50.000 Mo, are we good?
04:20:52.000 Oh, okay.
04:20:53.000 Alright, so we got here.
04:20:55.000 Dapper Dave, Marion, in your assessment of Trump's case, you don't mention it's Trump's right to declassify the document as president.
04:21:00.000 To me, this is the central core of the case.
04:21:02.000 Everything else is secondary.
04:21:03.000 No, my friend, and I already explained this.
04:21:05.000 Number one, he didn't declassify some of the documents.
04:21:07.000 But let's go ahead under the presumption that he did.
04:21:09.000 It doesn't matter.
04:21:11.000 Having national defense information, regardless of classification, is a violation.
04:21:16.000 That's what you are missing, my friend.
04:21:17.000 NDI, regardless of classification, is NDI, and it's a violation of the Espionage Act.
04:21:23.000 Done.
04:21:26.000 Pilo Kezink goes, Hey guys, USAAF hopeful here, appreciating the lineup of absolute goats.
04:21:32.000 Just wanted to get Scott's thoughts on the possible Chinese invasion of Taiwan and how the U.S. could fare Okay, we'll come back to that question.
04:21:39.000 I'm going to read the rest of these chats and we'll close out with that one.
04:21:42.000 Trevon Suki goes, Professor, last question.
04:21:44.000 There's a rumor Russians are pretty racist towards black people.
04:21:46.000 Is that true?
04:21:47.000 I would like to be safe when I visit.
04:21:48.000 And then what was the last one here, Amo?
04:21:51.000 Dex Lexus, thoughts on JFK implementing the United States notes backed by gold right before his death and LBJ bringing back the Federal Reserve notes when he became president.
04:21:59.000 Okay, so I guess we can attack.
04:22:00.000 The easiest one is, are Russians racist towards blacks?
04:22:03.000 Okay.
04:22:08.000 Yes.
04:22:09.000 Fair enough.
04:22:10.000 Not ugly racist, but ignorant racist.
04:22:16.000 What I mean is...
04:22:17.000 You make black music.
04:22:18.000 Well, they have...
04:22:21.000 Because Russians don't interface with black people...
04:22:25.000 On a regular basis.
04:22:28.000 They're susceptible to being conditioned by cultural references and things.
04:22:34.000 Yeah, what do they see in the media?
04:22:36.000 Bullshit.
04:22:36.000 Bingo.
04:22:38.000 So if you're in an all-white Russian town, as most Russian towns are, and on media you're seeing things...
04:22:45.000 Hip-hop music, Cardi B, all this bullshit you see.
04:22:48.000 So now when you see a black person...
04:22:51.000 You simply project all that onto that person.
04:22:54.000 And that's the problem.
04:22:56.000 It's not deliberate racism, I guess, is what I'm trying to say.
04:23:00.000 I'm not trying to excuse it.
04:23:01.000 I'm just trying to put it into a context.
04:23:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:23:03.000 So people understand.
04:23:03.000 But the other thing I'll say is that it's not hateful racism.
04:23:06.000 It's ignorance.
04:23:07.000 It's ignorance.
04:23:07.000 And the moment you confront the Russians with...
04:23:12.000 Yeah.
04:23:29.000 And instead, they focus on you.
04:23:30.000 They're able to see you as a human being.
04:23:33.000 Disprove the stereotypes, guys.
04:23:34.000 I talk about this all the time.
04:23:35.000 As a color person myself, I will not sit here and make excuses and cry for racism, blah, blah, blah, because I've said it before.
04:23:40.000 Other parts of the world are way more racist.
04:23:42.000 Japan, same thing.
04:23:44.000 Extremely racist, right?
04:23:45.000 And they're racist towards anyone that's not Japanese, right?
04:23:48.000 Homogenous nations in general are almost always going to be racist.
04:23:50.000 It is what it is, guys.
04:23:51.000 It's on you to not perpetuate the stereotype.
04:23:54.000 But I also say this about the Russians.
04:23:56.000 You compare them, for instance, to the Poles.
04:23:59.000 The Poles will hate you because you're black, and they'll never give you a chance.
04:24:02.000 Fair enough.
04:24:03.000 The Russians don't hate...
04:24:05.000 The Russians are just ignorant about certain things.
04:24:08.000 And the moment they become informed, educated, they're actually some of the most tolerant people.
04:24:14.000 Like I said, this is a culture that respects differences of religion, differences of everything.
04:24:21.000 So because your skin color is a certain color, once they are able to contextualize it and put it into a realistic perspective, they're extraordinarily tolerant people.
04:24:34.000 Fair enough.
04:24:34.000 Amen.
04:24:35.000 Just don't go over there acting like a fool.
04:24:36.000 You'll be straight.
04:24:39.000 Pillow, he goes, he mentioned, this one is a little bit more of a longer answer, right?
04:24:43.000 With the Chinese invasion of Taiwan.
04:24:45.000 And then this one is, LBJ bringing back the Federal Reserve notes when he became President JFK implementing the United States notes backed by gold right before his death.
04:24:53.000 I can't address that.
04:24:54.000 I don't know anything about that.
04:24:55.000 Guys, just so you know, I'm going to talk about JFK in detail with Ryan Dawson.
04:25:00.000 We're going to talk about who actually was behind killing him.
04:25:02.000 Who actually knows that.
04:25:03.000 Ryan will answer that question.
04:25:04.000 Yeah, Ryan has studied JFK to a whole other level.
04:25:07.000 We're going to do a little podcast on that.
04:25:08.000 Ryan scares me.
04:25:09.000 Yeah.
04:25:09.000 I met Ryan in Texas for the first time, and he came off as a smart guy, but he also came off as a...
04:25:20.000 He had these charts, the chart and everything.
04:25:23.000 And I'm just looking at it going, because I've had people approach me in the past.
04:25:26.000 They're like, you know, here's my assessment of this and that.
04:25:28.000 And I'm looking at it and I look down and I'm just like, nah.
04:25:31.000 So he gives me this stuff and I'm the same thing.
04:25:34.000 I looked at it and I went, Wait a minute.
04:25:37.000 This actually makes sense.
04:25:39.000 Wait a minute.
04:25:40.000 Wait a minute.
04:25:40.000 Wait.
04:25:41.000 What the?
04:25:42.000 Then the guy talks, and he has such a casual approach, but you're just sitting there, and he's talking, and I'm trying to find the chinks in his argument.
04:25:51.000 I'm like, there's no chinks in his argument.
04:25:54.000 That son of a bitch has done his homework.
04:25:56.000 He's got all the answers, but he does it in such a polite way.
04:26:01.000 I'm sure he's looked at me a couple times going, Ritter, you're an idiot.
04:26:04.000 And I am.
04:26:06.000 I'll be the first one to admit it.
04:26:07.000 But he's polite about it.
04:26:09.000 He's like, there's some more you need to learn about this, boss.
04:26:12.000 And I understand.
04:26:13.000 That's how I view life.
04:26:14.000 I have to learn more about everything.
04:26:15.000 Absolutely.
04:26:15.000 And I think that's the way to go.
04:26:16.000 And I think talking to other people that are well-versed in things.
04:26:18.000 But he's a gift.
04:26:19.000 He's a gift that should be...
04:26:22.000 I'm glad that you guys are talking because he's a gift and I wish more people would listen to him.
04:26:27.000 Yeah, absolutely, man.
04:26:28.000 I pursue the truth, man.
04:26:31.000 So any guys like you, guys like Dawson that have been suppressed by cancel culture or whatever, hey, man, y'all can come on Fresh and Fit, man.
04:26:39.000 I will platform the people that other people are too fucking scared to platform.
04:26:42.000 I appreciate it.
04:26:43.000 Of course, man.
04:26:44.000 That's what it's about.
04:26:46.000 Last one here.
04:26:47.000 Okay.
04:26:47.000 Just wanted to get Scott's thoughts on a possible Chinese invasion of Taiwan and how the U.S. would fare in its defense.
04:26:52.000 This is a good damn question.
04:26:54.000 Go ahead.
04:26:54.000 Take it away, Scott.
04:26:56.000 First of all, we have to understand that China does not want to invade Taiwan.
04:27:00.000 China has a one-China policy.
04:27:01.000 Can we see the chat, Mo, please?
04:27:03.000 A one-China policy.
04:27:04.000 It wants the peaceful unification.
04:27:08.000 They look at Taiwan as an economic multiplier for them.
04:27:13.000 They want that economy working with them.
04:27:17.000 And they have said straight up that Our policy is the peaceful unification.
04:27:25.000 However, if they are required to respond to provocations such as Taiwan wanting to become independent or nations treating Taiwan like they were an independent nation,
04:27:40.000 then China would have to use military force to rectify.
04:27:44.000 That means invade Taiwan and bring this to an end.
04:27:47.000 It appeared that the United States was pushing China in that direction.
04:27:51.000 We were trying to provoke...
04:27:53.000 When we're going into the airspace and the water space?
04:27:56.000 Well, not just that, but we're sending military trainers to Taiwan.
04:27:59.000 We're sending Nancy Pelosi to Taiwan.
04:28:01.000 We're doing things that make China appear to be...
04:28:05.000 So I was very...
04:28:07.000 I had an interview that was done...
04:28:11.000 In the fall of last year.
04:28:13.000 And I was very negative.
04:28:15.000 I believe that we were heady towards a war with China.
04:28:18.000 And here's the bad thing about a war with China.
04:28:20.000 We can't win.
04:28:21.000 China will beat us.
04:28:22.000 You don't think so?
04:28:23.000 No.
04:28:23.000 Straight up defeat.
04:28:25.000 Because first of all...
04:28:27.000 What would you say to all the people that would say, you're wrong.
04:28:30.000 America has the best army.
04:28:31.000 We spend the most on military spending in the world.
04:28:35.000 There's no way that we would lose.
04:28:36.000 We have...
04:28:38.000 Air, better, superior air, superior submarine, superior Navy.
04:28:43.000 I agree with the superior submarines.
04:28:45.000 I'm not against that.
04:28:46.000 But what I'll say is this.
04:28:48.000 Let's talk air for a second.
04:28:50.000 Sure.
04:28:51.000 Because now we're getting to my strength.
04:28:54.000 Yeah.
04:28:54.000 Okay.
04:28:54.000 This is your wheelhouse.
04:28:56.000 Where are we going to fly from, guys?
04:28:59.000 Aircraft carriers?
04:29:00.000 Yeah.
04:29:01.000 Okay.
04:29:02.000 What's the combat radius of the F-18 Hornet?
04:29:06.000 We don't need to know it right off the bat, but just say it's a knowable range.
04:29:10.000 China has missiles that outrange the Hornet.
04:29:14.000 China's missiles cannot be shot down by our anti-missile systems.
04:29:18.000 So as we bring an aircraft carrier in to get within strike range with the F-18 Hornets, it's going to be sunk.
04:29:24.000 Or it's going to be attacked.
04:29:26.000 It's going to be damaged.
04:29:27.000 Its flight operations are going to be disrupted.
04:29:31.000 It's not going to have freedom.
04:29:32.000 We're so used to flying off the coast of Afghanistan and just taking off and launching sorties.
04:29:38.000 We forget that what happens when the enemy starts shooting back at us, ships get sunk.
04:29:43.000 And the Chinese have been developing missiles.
04:29:45.000 Designed to sink American aircraft.
04:29:47.000 Would you say we're also at a disadvantage because we have to put ourselves in a fighting position and that means that we're going to have to get closer to China and closer to Taiwan in general?
04:29:53.000 We have to get closer to their strengths.
04:29:55.000 Yeah.
04:29:56.000 They ain't moving, we're moving.
04:29:58.000 Yeah, which puts us at an inevitable disadvantage.
04:30:00.000 So now it's the Air Force going to take off from Guam.
04:30:03.000 To take off from Guam, remember airplanes need fuel.
04:30:08.000 So as they approach their target, what's their fuel status?
04:30:12.000 You know, is it going to be a Doolittle mission, one-way mission, drop bombs and die?
04:30:17.000 No, we don't operate that way.
04:30:18.000 So we're going to need tankers, which require combat air patrol to protect the tankers, which eats up assets.
04:30:25.000 Now we refuel, we come back.
04:30:27.000 We're over there.
04:30:27.000 We have to project power to project them over there.
04:30:30.000 Where are those planes going to come?
04:30:30.000 More fuelers.
04:30:31.000 You start adding up the amount of aircraft that we're talking about.
04:30:34.000 It's a huge amount of aircraft.
04:30:37.000 We don't have enough aircraft to do this.
04:30:40.000 Now, the other thing is air transport.
04:30:42.000 Rand Corporation just published a study that says that we don't have enough military airlift to sustain this fight because it's logistics.
04:30:49.000 If you don't do logistics right, you lose.
04:30:51.000 We can't move things around.
04:30:53.000 Remember, we're coming to their strength.
04:30:55.000 We're coming to Taiwan.
04:30:57.000 China can project power around Taiwan that we can't penetrate.
04:31:01.000 So, with all due respect to people that say, we got this thing hands down, I'll tell you, we got nothing hands down.
04:31:10.000 Mm-hmm.
04:31:29.000 And Russia would probably help China as well.
04:31:32.000 There's no doubt Russia would come to the assistance of China in the Pacific theater.
04:31:35.000 The good news is that there's an election in November 2024.
04:31:43.000 Not an American election, a Taiwanese election.
04:31:46.000 And the current government, which is very pro-independence, pro-America, is going to be voted out.
04:31:53.000 And what's going to replace them is an opposition run by the Kuomintang Party.
04:31:56.000 What are they doing right now?
04:32:00.000 Yeah.
04:32:06.000 Yeah.
04:32:09.000 Yeah.
04:32:21.000 We're good to go.
04:32:40.000 I think we're good to go.
04:32:48.000 I think we're good to go.
04:33:02.000 You know, freedom of navigation.
04:33:04.000 They say under international law, especially if America says we believe in one China policy, that means Taiwan is China.
04:33:10.000 So that coastline is China.
04:33:12.000 The other coastline is China, which means there's no international strait.
04:33:16.000 So the Chinese are fed up with this.
04:33:18.000 I think also the United States, not only do we realize that we're going to be politically isolated, but I think there's a growing recognition in the Pentagon that we can't win a war against China.
04:33:29.000 So...
04:33:30.000 Wow.
04:33:32.000 That was a great discussion, man.
04:33:34.000 This was definitely one of my favorite podcasts.
04:33:35.000 We've been going for four and a half hours now.
04:33:38.000 You guys got a lot of sauce.
04:33:40.000 Scott, where can the people find you, man, to get more content like this?
04:33:46.000 ScottRitterExtra.com is the best place to go.
04:33:48.000 Everything I publish gets put up there.
04:33:51.000 My sub stack or anything I publish for the other outlets.
04:33:54.000 Also, any of the links that I do.
04:34:19.000 I run, I run so far away