Fresh & Fit - Troy Francis Explains How To Do The PERFECT Cold Approach

00:00:00.000 Guys, we're here with Troy Francis.

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00:02:42.000 Anyway, we've got a fresh guest in the house.

00:02:43.000 Troy Francis.

00:02:46.000 Welcome to the show, man.

00:02:47.000 You've been on the show.

00:02:48.000 Is this, what, the third time now?

00:02:50.000 Third, fourth time?

00:02:50.000 Fourth, I think.

00:02:51.000 Something like that.

00:02:51.000 It's been a few times now, man.

00:02:53.000 Yeah, thank you for having me.

00:02:54.000 Yeah, of course, dude.

00:02:55.000 And real quick, just so you guys get a little bit of a history, right?

00:02:59.000 I've known Troy for a very long time.

00:03:01.000 So it's, what, 2019 now at this point?

00:03:02.000 I think so, yeah.

00:03:03.000 Yeah, we met in 2019 through John from Model Life Dating.

00:03:06.000 You were gracious enough to have me on your channel before I even had a YouTube channel.

00:03:11.000 And I was still doing the fitness thing back in the day.

00:03:13.000 And we did a bunch of collabs, Zoom calls, all that with your audience.

00:03:16.000 And I never forgot that.

00:03:18.000 So, yeah, man.

00:03:20.000 I mean, like I said before, just because we grow doesn't mean we're going to forget about those that put us on before.

00:03:24.000 So we're happy to have you here, man.

00:03:26.000 It's always a pleasure to have you here.

00:03:27.000 More people need to know about you.

00:03:29.000 And he's a real deal.

00:03:31.000 He's a real deal, man.

00:03:32.000 Whenever Troy deals with me, I respond as soon as possible.

00:03:34.000 Just because, you know, I don't respond to everybody.

00:03:35.000 Because he's a real deal.

00:03:36.000 Yeah, he's the homie, man. 1.00

00:03:37.000 So, yeah, you guys, if you're not familiar with him, you will be after this show.

00:03:41.000 And shout out to you, Troy.

00:03:42.000 But yeah, can you introduce yourself to the people, man?

00:03:44.000 Yeah, guys.

00:03:44.000 Well, thanks for having me.

00:03:45.000 I'm Troy Francis.

00:03:46.000 I'm a dating coach.

00:03:47.000 I'm a dating content creator, obviously based in London, but I teach guys all around the world.

00:03:53.000 I've taught thousands of guys now the art of cold approach, going up to women that they don't know, having a normal, authentic conversation, getting a phone number, getting a date, et cetera, et cetera.

00:04:04.000 I've also written a bunch of books about it, and I'm on Rule Zero with Rolly Tomasi.

00:04:08.000 The Renegade Playboy.

00:04:09.000 Yeah, Renegade Dating Blueprint.

00:04:11.000 Yeah, so I've got a whole bunch of books about game, the sexual marketplace, dating, all of those different things.

00:04:17.000 My experiences, actionable lessons and stuff.

00:04:20.000 So yeah, I do a whole bunch of stuff really.

00:04:22.000 Teaching guys is a big part of it, but also content creation and so on.

00:04:24.000 And also you're very well-traveled.

00:04:27.000 Absolutely, yeah.

00:04:27.000 Well, I like to get around a bit.

00:04:31.000 Because we were just talking about Columbia before we came on air, and obviously you guys have just been.

00:04:36.000 I've been there a couple of times, so it's a place I really like, actually, certainly for the dating side of things.

00:04:42.000 Yes, yes.

00:04:43.000 So, Troy, let me just update us on what you've been doing.

00:04:46.000 Last time you were here, we talked about Cold Approach.

00:04:49.000 We're going to talk about it again.

00:04:50.000 But a lot has happened since the last time you were, man.

00:04:52.000 Update us on your life.

00:04:53.000 What's been going on new with you?

00:04:55.000 Well, I mean, I did a lot of traveling last year because I think the last time we did a show like this, we were talking specifically about Cold Approach.

00:05:01.000 That was probably a couple of years ago now.

00:05:03.000 Like a year.

00:05:04.000 Yeah, like a year.

00:05:05.000 So since then, I've done a lot of traveling.

00:05:07.000 Like last year, we spent a lot of time in Poland.

00:05:10.000 And again, we were talking about that just before we came on air.

00:05:13.000 I'm going out there next month.

00:05:14.000 I mean, mate, Poland, Warsaw, absolutely fantastic.

00:05:18.000 It's really, really good.

00:05:19.000 So I went there last year and spent a lot of the summer out there.

00:05:23.000 I remember reading Roosh books back in the day and talking about how he would rave about Poland.

00:05:30.000 I've never heard anyone complain about Poland.

00:05:32.000 By the way, that's how I first got into this whole game in the first place, really.

00:05:36.000 It was because of Roosh V, because I used to write for his blog, Return of Kings.

00:05:41.000 So that's because I was going out and doing game.

00:05:43.000 I was working a corporate job, but I was going out doing game, meeting different girls, blah, blah, blah.

00:05:47.000 And I would do a weekly column on his website, Return of Kings, talking about, you know, this happened, that happened, this was successful, that was successful.

00:05:54.000 I got this girl, she rejected me, and all the learnings from that.

00:05:58.000 And I started to build that up.

00:05:59.000 And Donovan Sharp was on there at the same time.

00:06:01.000 And so that's how I kind of first got into making content about all this stuff.

00:06:05.000 Gotcha.

00:06:06.000 Yeah, and you were, prior to this, you were a writer, right?

00:06:09.000 Like, you want to tell people a little bit about your background professionally?

00:06:11.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, I've written for various different organs, let's say, you know, different things like Days of Confuse, Vice, The Guardian, lots and lots of different...

00:06:21.000 Vice too?

00:06:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:06:23.000 Back in the day, back in the day before...

00:06:26.000 Before it became what it is now.

00:06:28.000 Nice.

00:06:28.000 How much has it changed, man?

00:06:30.000 It's changed a lot because it used to be quite renegade.

00:06:34.000 It used to be quite sort of...

00:06:37.000 In the jungles.

00:06:38.000 Yeah, they still do some of that content, to be fair, but it was like anything goes.

00:06:43.000 It was less politically correct than it is now, let's say.

00:06:48.000 Yeah.

00:06:49.000 What year were you writing for them back in the day?

00:06:50.000 Oh man, it was, I don't know, it was back in the early 2000s. 0.99

00:06:53.000 Oh wow, okay, damn. 0.98

00:06:54.000 It was going back a while. 0.99

00:06:55.000 Like almost 20 years ago.

00:06:57.000 Uh, no, no, sorry.

00:06:58.000 Later than that, it was like sort of like 2010s.

00:07:00.000 2010.

00:07:01.000 Okay.

00:07:02.000 Okay.

00:07:02.000 Bro, after what they did to Andrew, never again, bro.

00:07:04.000 Yeah, as hell.

00:07:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:07:06.000 But I mean, they used to be edgy and they used to be like the shit, but yeah, dude, nowadays they're trash. 1.00

00:07:11.000 And everyone knows it too. 1.00

00:07:12.000 Like they just fell off.

00:07:14.000 Cancelled.

00:07:14.000 Was it?

00:07:15.000 Cancelled.

00:07:15.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:07:16.000 Facts.

00:07:17.000 They just recently declared bankruptcy, if I'm not mistaken.

00:07:19.000 Yep.

00:07:22.000 Okay, so you've been out.

00:07:23.000 You've been traveling.

00:07:24.000 You were in Poland.

00:07:26.000 Sorry, we're talking about Poland.

00:07:27.000 Yeah, so I spent a lot of time in Poland last year with my colleague James Tusk, who we always say we want to get on and he's never in Miami at the right time.

00:07:34.000 So he's another day game kind of guy.

00:07:37.000 He's got his own YouTube channel.

00:07:38.000 So we joined forces.

00:07:40.000 We spent a lot of time in Poland last year.

00:07:42.000 In Warsaw, also some of the other cities like Krakow, Łódź, Gdansk, different places.

00:07:48.000 It was just great because one of the main reasons being...

00:07:52.000 The population massively expanded in Poland last year, for obvious reasons, because of the war.

00:07:57.000 So you've got a lot of very beautiful Ukrainian women, but also obviously all of the, you know, the Polish women as well.

00:08:04.000 So it's just a fantastic place.

00:08:07.000 Really, really good.

00:08:07.000 So you spent a lot of time there teaching guys.

00:08:09.000 I've been to Istanbul a few times.

00:08:12.000 Istanbul?

00:08:12.000 Yeah, Istanbul, Turkey, teaching some guys there.

00:08:15.000 Okay, more teaching, not necessarily going because you want to go.

00:08:18.000 A bit of both.

00:08:20.000 And recently we spoke about Ukraine with a shooter.

00:08:24.000 How's Ukraine?

00:08:26.000 Well, so James went into Ukraine recently.

00:08:29.000 He was in Lviv a few weeks ago and I think he's going to go back.

00:08:33.000 I may possibly go as well.

00:08:36.000 Lviv, for people who don't know, is a city that's just across the border from Poland.

00:08:40.000 So it's relatively accessible.

00:08:42.000 You can get trains in there or you can get like a taxi over the border.

00:08:47.000 It's It got attacked recently, but in general, across the war, it's been kind of unscathed.

00:08:54.000 So the atmosphere there is still pretty good.

00:08:56.000 And obviously, you know, the people are very appreciative, particularly for British people going in.

00:09:01.000 They're very appreciative.

00:09:02.000 They really like, you know, so it was good, man.

00:09:04.000 It was good. 1.00

00:09:05.000 Damn. 1.00

00:09:05.000 Okay. 1.00

00:09:06.000 No, that's lit, man.

00:09:07.000 I mean, Poland has always been... 1.00

00:09:10.000 Where else have you been recently?

00:09:13.000 Bro, you need to go to Jamaica, bro. 1.00

00:09:15.000 I can only imagine a British folk like you in Jamaica having a good time with some of them.

00:09:20.000 Bit of sort of colonialism.

00:09:26.000 I went to Riga in Latvia, actually.

00:09:31.000 So a lot of these Eastern European countries.

00:09:33.000 Oh, Romania as well. 0.87

00:09:33.000 So I've been in Bucharest quite recently as well. 0.87

00:09:35.000 So Riga, I have to say, Because we do a bit of this passport pro type thing.

00:09:41.000 I know it's become a bit of a buzzword now, but to me it just seems like it's kind of common sense.

00:09:45.000 If you want to date attractive women and you want to go somewhere where maybe you've got a little bit more status perhaps in your home country, why not do that?

00:09:53.000 So anyway, we check out these different places. 0.99

00:09:56.000 So Riga in Latvia, I've got to say, A bit of a damn squid. 0.99

00:10:00.000 I wasn't a massive fan, to be honest. 0.98

00:10:03.000 There were some very beautiful Latvian women, but it was just a bit not great. 1.00

00:10:08.000 Bucharest, on the other hand, I really like.

00:10:09.000 I think it's a great place.

00:10:10.000 Yeah, Bucharest is pretty cool.

00:10:12.000 Yeah, because you guys were there, weren't you?

00:10:13.000 Yeah, we were there.

00:10:13.000 We spent some time with Tate Bros and a lot of people speak English there, which is cool.

00:10:17.000 Yeah.

00:10:17.000 A lot more people speak English there than you would think.

00:10:20.000 And yeah.

00:10:21.000 Like, I didn't feel like...

00:10:22.000 People say that Romania is a very poor country.

00:10:23.000 It didn't feel like it was poor to me.

00:10:25.000 But, I mean...

00:10:26.000 Well, to be fair, we were the top days.

00:10:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:10:29.000 We were.

00:10:29.000 But, like, you know, even when we're out, like, at the mall and shit like that, it wasn't...

00:10:33.000 It had nice cars.

00:10:34.000 Yeah, like, it wasn't like a...

00:10:35.000 Like, it was...

00:10:35.000 Maybe I'm sure if you leave Bucharest or maybe certain parts of Bucharest, but, like, in general, it's a very nice city.

00:10:40.000 Yeah.

00:10:41.000 Yeah, there's some really upscale places.

00:10:44.000 Yeah, no danger.

00:10:45.000 Yeah, some upscale places in Bucharest, for sure.

00:10:47.000 And particularly in the center, obviously, you've got really nice hotels, nice restaurants, all that kind of stuff.

00:10:50.000 That's the only thing I didn't like about Medellin, is it's not safe.

00:10:53.000 You know what I mean?

00:10:55.000 Honestly, you've got to be on guard.

00:10:57.000 For example, we don't know the areas, per se, where you shouldn't go.

00:11:00.000 So you don't want to wander into areas.

00:11:02.000 That was the only thing I didn't like, was Medellin isn't really that safe.

00:11:06.000 You shouldn't go there by yourself.

00:11:08.000 Or you should at least go with friends.

00:11:13.000 Especially if you don't speak the language.

00:11:15.000 Or at least get some intel before you go.

00:11:20.000 Obviously the good thing now is because we've got the internet, we've got all these connections, it's quite easy to find out From people, you know, what the vibe is like.

00:11:28.000 I mean, because James travels a lot, so I get a lot of info from him.

00:11:32.000 So they've been to places like Argentina, so I'm going to go to Argentina soon.

00:11:36.000 You know, we talk about Peru, there's Bolivia, there's all these different places.

00:11:39.000 So, you know, there's a big world out there.

00:11:43.000 How do you cross the language barrier when you travel?

00:11:46.000 As far as dating is concerned, so I personally have never found it to be a huge barrier.

00:11:51.000 Me either.

00:11:52.000 Yeah, because all we do is we go up, obviously introduce yourself to the girls, say hi, whatever.

00:11:59.000 Often they can speak a bit of English anyway, so that's the first thing, because obviously English being the, you know...

00:12:04.000 Central language kind of thing.

00:12:05.000 But if they don't, you can just pull out Google Translate.

00:12:08.000 Yeah, my best friend.

00:12:09.000 You know, and I've had whole, like, mini relationships with women that just entirely conducted on Google Translate. 1.00

00:12:16.000 You know what I mean?

00:12:17.000 It's even better.

00:12:18.000 They talk less.

00:12:19.000 Exactly.

00:12:20.000 So, like, last year...

00:12:21.000 Last year, I was dating this Ukrainian girl for a bit in Poland.

00:12:26.000 She lived in Warsaw.

00:12:27.000 I was sort of seeing her for a bit.

00:12:28.000 And her English was very small.

00:12:30.000 She didn't speak a lot of English.

00:12:31.000 And we were just like, it was all Google Translate and a bit of sign language and a bit of like just general.

00:12:37.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:12:38.000 And it's fine.

00:12:39.000 It's definitely doable.

00:12:40.000 I mean, I'm not saying you get married to somebody in that situation, but it's definitely doable for like a bit of short term fun or like a sort of short term relationship or something.

00:12:47.000 Yeah.

00:12:48.000 Let me ask you this.

00:12:50.000 There's been an explosion in the whole Passport Bros movement, right?

00:12:54.000 It's been going on forever.

00:12:55.000 It's been going on for the better part of a decade.

00:12:56.000 You can go look at Roosh's books where he literally wrote a book, bang, insert country here, right?

00:13:01.000 Like, bang Ukraine, bang Brazil, bang.

00:13:04.000 They actually got them banned in a lot of places.

00:13:08.000 Why do you think it's exploded so much, especially now in the 2020s and beyond?

00:13:13.000 Like, it was a thing in the earlier 2000s, kind of like hush-hush, nobody knew about it.

00:13:17.000 If you weren't in this community, you really didn't know.

00:13:20.000 But, like, now it's exploded.

00:13:21.000 It's mainstream.

00:13:22.000 Why do you think so?

00:13:24.000 I think partly the internet and people are more aware of it as a possibility, but I think it's largely down to the things that we always talk about, which is the difficulties of the dating marketplace in a place like the USA or in the UK or Western Europe. 0.96

00:13:39.000 We all know the dating marketplace is a bit of a shit show, to be honest. 0.61

00:13:44.000 And guys are, I think, increasingly thinking, well, the juice isn't worth the squeeze. 0.99

00:13:48.000 I'm going to try my luck elsewhere.

00:13:50.000 So I think it kind of comes down to that, really.

00:13:52.000 What would you say?

00:13:53.000 Oh, sorry.

00:13:54.000 No, no.

00:13:55.000 Obviously, women act in quite a masculine way in some of these countries where we're from. 1.00

00:14:02.000 And I think a lot of guys appreciate the femininity of women in Eastern Europe or Latin America.

00:14:08.000 So...

00:14:09.000 Increasingly, they're going to go there and check it out, I think.

00:14:11.000 How much do you think the internet and social media has contributed to this explosion of the passport bros? 0.98

00:14:17.000 I think, well, it's definitely made it a lot more doable, hasn't it?

00:14:21.000 Because now you can be in touch with her, even if you're not living in her country.

00:14:26.000 For me, typically, I'll be dating.

00:14:28.000 I'll have different connections, different links in different places, and I might be in contact with one or the other.

00:14:33.000 You can be in contact with them, obviously, on WhatsApp or whatever, Instagram.

00:14:36.000 You can stay in contact with people more easily.

00:14:39.000 Travel is relatively cheap, so it's easier to get around, travel to these places.

00:14:43.000 Yeah.

00:14:44.000 And obviously you've got the apps as well.

00:14:45.000 I don't personally particularly use the apps very much, but I've got nothing massively against them.

00:14:51.000 I don't think they work particularly well for average guys.

00:14:53.000 I don't personally use them very much, but you can do a bit of pipelining.

00:14:57.000 You can be like, right, I'm going to do a trip to Brazil, so I'm going to do some pipelining in Rio.

00:15:03.000 Can you tell people what pipelining is?

00:15:06.000 Yeah, so it's basically just going onto the app and lining up some dates before you get to the location.

00:15:10.000 So you might do it a week before, two weeks before, set your location to Rio or wherever it is, and then get some dates sorted out before you get there.

00:15:17.000 So it gives you kind of a soft landing, you know?

00:15:19.000 It's funny, I do that on Instagram, or when I get there.

00:15:22.000 The moment I get there, geolocation that area, just find girls I want to talk to, send a DM, done.

00:15:27.000 Yeah, yeah, nice, nice.

00:15:30.000 So, what do you think, as far as dating apps go, what have you seen works the best internationally?

00:15:37.000 I mean, I'm sure different countries have different apps that work the best.

00:15:40.000 Yeah.

00:15:41.000 What would you say?

00:15:43.000 From the times you do use dating apps.

00:15:45.000 I know you mostly do cold approach, and we'll get into that.

00:15:47.000 I think my general impression is Tinder's burnt out, to be honest.

00:15:51.000 I just think Tinder's like, you know...

00:15:52.000 I think Bumble now seems to be the main one.

00:15:55.000 It's working well.

00:15:57.000 I mean, obviously, it's a little bit annoying because they've got a...

00:16:00.000 Message you first.

00:16:02.000 But in general, I think Bumble is really good.

00:16:04.000 And some people talk about Hinge.

00:16:06.000 I'm not a fan of Hinge, really.

00:16:07.000 Hinge is super city-dependent, I've noticed.

00:16:11.000 In certain places, it's terrible.

00:16:14.000 In other places, it's great.

00:16:16.000 It's really dependent upon where you are.

00:16:18.000 Like, super, like, more than the other apps.

00:16:20.000 You know what's crazy, though?

00:16:20.000 What?

00:16:21.000 I find nowadays a lot of people are getting, well, becoming couples from Hinge, which is crazy.

00:16:25.000 Yeah.

00:16:25.000 Really?

00:16:26.000 Yeah, from the dating app of Hinge.

00:16:27.000 I don't know why, but it's working out.

00:16:29.000 Yeah, because girls take that the most seriously of all the apps. 1.00

00:16:32.000 I would say Bumble and Hinge are what they take seriously.

00:16:35.000 And then Tinder, I agree with you.

00:16:36.000 Tinder nowadays is like, it is burnt out, and girls are just using it to, especially with OnlyFans and shit, they're just using that to funnel you to OnlyFans. 1.00

00:16:42.000 I've had guys that I've worked with Who tell stories about how they'll start conversations with girls on Tinder.

00:16:49.000 And then she'll be like, Oh, well, actually, I'm not in the country at the moment. 0.96

00:16:51.000 But if you could, you just send me a bit of money because I needed to shit like that, you know, and it's just I mean, obviously, you should nobody should be taken in by that nonsense. 0.98

00:16:59.000 But the fact that the fact that women are doing that is it just shows you the state. 1.00

00:17:02.000 Oh, yeah, you know, it's crazy when they're like, literally putting their Venmo's and their cash apps in their in their profile.

00:17:07.000 But yeah, yeah. 0.94

00:17:08.000 Like, that's when you know, like, it's like, okay, they give zero fucks anymore. 0.96

00:17:11.000 Yeah. 0.72

00:17:11.000 But then you've got the actual sugar apps as well. 0.72

00:17:14.000 I mean, that's another thing.

00:17:15.000 And I think, you know, we talked about this before where...

00:17:19.000 The ideal with the sugar apps is to use them as a dating app.

00:17:22.000 So you use it to meet women to take out on dates, not actually to pay them.

00:17:27.000 That's the trick. 0.99

00:17:28.000 You don't want to be the chump who's, you know, you certainly don't want to be paying like stupid allowances or any of that nonsense. 1.00

00:17:33.000 But you want to be, if you're, you know, but if you can use it as a sourcing method, I think that's fine. 0.96

00:17:39.000 I think that's, you know, I mean, John did a course about it a while back, didn't he?

00:17:42.000 Yeah, we did it together.

00:17:43.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:17:44.000 I think it's actually one of the best ways.

00:17:47.000 I think it's better than dating apps.

00:17:49.000 Because here's the thing.

00:17:50.000 Me and Fresh have done split tests on this.

00:17:52.000 We've had it where we've matched with a girl on Tinder, and then that girl will go ahead and message you on a sugar site. 0.99

00:17:59.000 And she won't respond to you on Tinder, but she'll respond to you on a sugar site.

00:18:02.000 So it's like, just by you having the higher perceived status, she'll respond.

00:18:06.000 And then that's what you needed to get the date in the first place.

00:18:09.000 Which is wild.

00:18:10.000 Because we were experimenting with sugar wraps over the past year or so to really kind of figure out, okay, so how can we help clients with this, you know, for research purposes.

00:18:19.000 And it's actually quite interesting because I think you're right.

00:18:24.000 I think the perceived status...

00:18:26.000 Really makes a difference.

00:18:28.000 Huge.

00:18:28.000 And it's kind of crazy that women are almost taken in by that in a way, because, you know, you've just put yourself on the app.

00:18:34.000 I mean, you're just some bloke who's uploading some photos, but she almost thinks, oh, he's on here, so therefore he must be of, you know, of this kind of, like, caliber. 0.99

00:18:44.000 And so it gives you standout that you probably wouldn't otherwise get if you're just some idiot on Tinder. 1.00

00:18:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:18:48.000 Yeah, and it sounds awful, but, like, the reality is that, like, women care about money, and they care about it a lot, unfortunately. 1.00

00:18:54.000 And, you know, I'm not telling you guys, like, oh, yeah, just get money, and that's it, because then you're going to be getting used.

00:18:59.000 But they've done this on Tinder, too, where, like, a guy had put a picture of himself winning, like, the lottery, and, like, he got ten times more matches.

00:19:05.000 Seriously?

00:19:06.000 Yeah, when he was, like, holding this big-ass check, it was an Asian guy. 0.99

00:19:09.000 He did it.

00:19:10.000 And he was able to get way more matches.

00:19:11.000 But the thing is that having a higher perceived status definitely helps you.

00:19:15.000 It's just that I think that where guys run into issues with sugar sites is they use it to basically be a trick.

00:19:21.000 And you don't want to do that. 1.00

00:19:22.000 And I tell guys, if you just want to go ahead and not deal with the bullshit, just put on your shit. 1.00

00:19:26.000 You don't do PPM or any of that weird shit. 1.00

00:19:28.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:19:28.000 And you'd be surprised that actually if you're not like a bum and you're not like dirty or anything else like that and you got good professional photos, you'd be surprised at how many girls will actually message you because there's a lot of women on there that are actually successful themselves. 0.94

00:19:38.000 Yeah. 0.74

00:19:39.000 They just want a guy that isn't a bum. 0.99

00:19:40.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:19:40.000 I will say the quality of girls on those sugar apps is a little bit different because those girls are actually looking for something a bit more stable versus Tinder is like a quick fucking N. All right, cool. 0.98

00:19:48.000 Let's see what happens from there. 0.94

00:19:49.000 If you can even get that.

00:19:51.000 But yeah, sugar sites...

00:19:52.000 Yeah.

00:19:52.000 Typically, you get two types of girls.

00:19:54.000 You got the girls that are just looking there like, I'm just looking for sugar daddy, I'm just looking for a trick, blah blah blah. 1.00

00:19:58.000 You don't want those bitches, fuck them, those escort bitches. 1.00

00:20:00.000 Then you got the girls that are like, okay, I'm on here to date, but a lot of the times these girls, right, they'll be professionals, their profile will be private, so you can't even find them. 1.00

00:20:10.000 They have to message you. 1.00

00:20:11.000 Their shit is completely hidden. 1.00

00:20:13.000 So, If you're an attractive guy, you got your shit together, you got good professional photos, you will get messages from girls, guys. 1.00

00:20:18.000 You absolutely will. 0.94

00:20:19.000 And you just use it, like you said, as a sourcing thing.

00:20:21.000 But I think where guys fuck up is they, oh, yeah, I'll send you some money or I'll do PPM. I'm like, fuck no. 0.99

00:20:26.000 If a girl approaches you with, oh, I want an allowance or I want to be spoiled, you say, no, I don't do that. 0.99

00:20:30.000 But don't be confused, though, because it's only because of the higher perceived status, too, as well.

00:20:34.000 That goes a long way.

00:20:35.000 Yeah.

00:20:35.000 I think you've just got to have certain red lines about what you're going to do.

00:20:39.000 And basically, not giving them money is the main one.

00:20:42.000 But using it as a filter... 0.99

00:20:44.000 Guys, fuck that one up all the time, man. 1.00

00:20:46.000 Yeah, absolutely. 0.99

00:20:46.000 But no, you're right, because I think there's two very distinct groups, isn't there? 0.99

00:20:49.000 Like you said, there's the ones who just want a load of cash, and they're like, yeah, I want a Dior handbag, I want five grand a month, whatever it is.

00:20:56.000 And then you've got the other ones, and they tend to be more like, I'm just looking to meet, I'm just looking to travel, I'm looking to meet a high-value guy, I want to meet more interesting, intelligent guys, that kind of thing.

00:21:07.000 Those are the ones that you want to meet.

00:21:09.000 Those are the girls you want, yeah. 1.00

00:21:10.000 And I always tell guys, you've got to put yourself, go into a dream world, right?

00:21:16.000 You kind of almost have to put yourself in a female's shoes so you can understand. 1.00

00:21:19.000 A lot of girls, when they go on these tender, bumble, and hinge dates, the reason why so many women don't take them seriously is because they'll show up on a date, the guy will be awkward, you won't know how to speak properly, you won't understand tonality, you won't have interesting stories, he'll split the bill with her. 1.00

00:21:32.000 Girls go on these dates a lot of times and they're constantly underwhelmed because, let's be honest, guys, a lot of dudes are fucking losers. 0.97

00:21:38.000 A lot of guys aren't watching content like this. 0.99

00:21:39.000 A lot of guys aren't understanding frame.

00:21:41.000 A lot of guys aren't a red pillow wearer. 0.99

00:21:42.000 So they're fucking simps. 1.00

00:21:44.000 They're weirdos. 1.00

00:21:45.000 They're awkward, whatever it may be. 0.76

00:21:46.000 Even if they got money, they're strange. 0.99

00:21:47.000 So girls go on these dates and they're like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:21:50.000 So if I'm going to deal with a lame, I'm just going to deal with a lame that has money. 0.99

00:21:52.000 So your job is to come in and not be lame and also be successful. 1.00

00:21:57.000 That's when you fucking got them. 0.99

00:21:58.000 Yeah, but that is a really interesting topic. 0.99

00:22:01.000 And that leads back to almost the cold approach stuff.

00:22:03.000 Because what we're realizing increasingly is that a lot of guys...

00:22:08.000 Guys who are drawn to that kind of concept, who need training in this stuff, they tend to be a little bit...

00:22:13.000 We're using the word flannels.

00:22:15.000 They're kind of flannels.

00:22:16.000 They're a bit weedy.

00:22:19.000 They're a bit weak.

00:22:21.000 They don't really put themselves across in the best possible way, in front of the women's. 0.99

00:22:24.000 So what you're saying, like on the date, they don't express themselves well.

00:22:26.000 They're not dominant.

00:22:27.000 They're not, et cetera, et cetera.

00:22:28.000 And the reality is those guys could be rich.

00:22:31.000 Those guys could have money.

00:22:32.000 They could even be, yeah.

00:22:34.000 I mean, I've taught guys this year who've been like multimillionaires, you know, dudes who've made money from crypto.

00:22:40.000 They've got the money, but they haven't got the other thing.

00:22:42.000 It's that X factor.

00:22:43.000 And that's the thing that we're trying to teach.

00:22:45.000 I think having money and not having frame is the most dangerous thing ever.

00:22:50.000 It's really bad.

00:22:51.000 We say that all the time.

00:22:52.000 You mentioned earlier, Bitcoin boys that make money from e-commerce.

00:22:57.000 All these young kids with money don't have any type of frame at all.

00:22:59.000 That's the worst. 1.00

00:23:01.000 Be rich in your 20s with no understanding of female nature or game or frame, you're fucked. 1.00

00:23:06.000 Bro, you're literally like a gazelle in the safari with a bunch of lions circling you. 1.00

00:23:10.000 Because people say all the time, like, oh, men are the hunters, etc. 1.00

00:23:14.000 A lot of the time, the women are the ones that are hunters and hunting you motherfuckers. 1.00

00:23:17.000 And we've seen on the show, girls mention, oh yeah, I met this guy at the club. 0.99

00:23:21.000 He's got a bunch of money in Bitcoin and we just went to his house and finessed him. 0.94

00:23:24.000 Women are the real predators, bro. 1.00

00:23:26.000 He paid them to stay there. 1.00

00:23:29.000 Longer.

00:23:29.000 So imagine...

00:23:30.000 Really?

00:23:30.000 They were there for a couple hours.

00:23:31.000 He said, oh, don't leave.

00:23:33.000 I'll give you five grand each to stay longer.

00:23:35.000 Five K each just to stay longer with him.

00:23:36.000 That's wild!

00:23:37.000 Once again, no type of frame or game.

00:23:40.000 No. 0.99

00:23:42.000 What the fuck, bro? 1.00

00:23:43.000 No, bro. 1.00

00:23:43.000 Like, yo, the more... 1.00

00:23:45.000 Like, yeah. 1.00

00:23:46.000 Women are the real fucking predators when it comes to shipping. 1.00

00:23:49.000 And the reason... 1.00

00:23:49.000 My reasoning is this. 1.00

00:23:51.000 There's way more women finessing men than there are men finessing women. 1.00

00:23:57.000 For every one guy that's finessing a chick, there's 20 girls finessing a dude. 1.00

00:24:05.000 Pretty much.

00:24:06.000 That's why, if you think about it, when girls get got, they say, I'll have no fear like a woman's scorn. 1.00

00:24:11.000 When women got got, they get fucking angry. 1.00

00:24:13.000 And it's memorable to them. 0.99

00:24:15.000 How many times have we been got?

00:24:16.000 A million times.

00:24:17.000 Oh, I don't even remember anymore.

00:24:19.000 I've been gone so many times.

00:24:20.000 But that's just how it is. 0.97

00:24:21.000 Women really are the real predators because more of them are good at it than men are. 1.00

00:24:26.000 It was so impactful. 0.92

00:24:27.000 They made a whole series on Netflix.

00:24:28.000 Yeah, you're right. 1.00

00:24:30.000 With the fucking Tinder swimmer. 1.00

00:24:31.000 Yeah, that guy. 1.00

00:24:31.000 A woman finessing a dude? 1.00

00:24:33.000 Another day in the office.

00:24:34.000 Do you think that's a woman? 1.00

00:24:35.000 Fucking Netflix special. 1.00

00:24:36.000 Movie? 1.00

00:24:37.000 Yeah, sorry.

00:24:38.000 Do you think that's because girls are more emotionally intelligent? 0.97

00:24:41.000 They're a bit more Machiavellian as well, aren't they?

00:24:44.000 They can sort of They've got that finessing down when they're quite young.

00:24:48.000 They've had so many experiences with men from the time they were 15 years old onward that they didn't know, for example, if he's going to be weak, he's going to be strong, he's going to be a bad boy, a nice guy.

00:24:58.000 And once again, with that many experiences, I'll take advantage.

00:25:00.000 This is what I say, right?

00:25:02.000 Because people get mad at me all the time. 0.99

00:25:04.000 And me and you have talked about this since fucking 2019, about guys got to get out there and fuck a bunch of girls and get experience. 0.99

00:25:10.000 People get mad at me when I say 50 girls, right? 0.99

00:25:12.000 And then they're like, oh, that's too much or blah, blah, blah. 0.98

00:25:14.000 And then I tell them, okay, well, let's pretend in 10 years you got a fucking match, a black belt match against someone, right? 0.99

00:25:22.000 Who's been training karate, et cetera, waxing on, waxing off, fucking training Mr. 0.99

00:25:25.000 Miyagi, time chamber, all this shit. 0.99

00:25:28.000 You got this match in 10 years. 0.99

00:25:29.000 What are you going to do?

00:25:30.000 Well, an intelligent person would train, wouldn't they?

00:25:32.000 They'd go to the gym.

00:25:33.000 They'd understand how to defend. 0.99

00:25:34.000 They learn how to punch, how to properly strike, how to kick, all this shit. 0.99

00:25:37.000 They'd figure it out, right? 0.99

00:25:38.000 But most guys effectively don't do shit. 1.00

00:25:40.000 And they just show up to this black belt person to get their ass whooped. 1.00

00:25:42.000 Who's that black belt holder? 1.00

00:25:43.000 It's a fucking female. 1.00

00:25:45.000 Because by the time you're 25 and she's 25, she's had way more training with the opposite gender than you have. 1.00

00:25:51.000 And she understands what ticks men off, what gets them turned on, etc.

00:25:55.000 And most importantly, she's dealt with a variety of different men and she understands where you stand in the social pecking order once she speaks to you.

00:26:01.000 So she's able to put you in a certain box. 1.00

00:26:03.000 Most guys can't put a girl in a box to save their fucking life. 1.00

00:26:06.000 They can't tell if a girl's a whore, if she's a good girl, whatever. 1.00

00:26:08.000 Most guys can't even vet a woman properly. 0.98

00:26:10.000 But women absolutely can see what type of guy it is and what kind of caliber it is.

00:26:13.000 Girls know who they can play games with and who they can't. 1.00

00:26:15.000 Most guys don't. 0.98

00:26:16.000 So I say, yo, you need to get out there and fucking go to dojo and train as well because this is a very important decision you're going to make. 0.99

00:26:21.000 If you pick the wrong girl, it could fuck your life up. 0.99

00:26:23.000 But yeah, it goes back to what you were saying. 0.99

00:26:25.000 I think it's a...

00:26:25.000 Yeah, Machiavellian for sure.

00:26:28.000 Yeah.

00:26:28.000 They're able to detach easier from guys.

00:26:31.000 And I think a part of it is biological as well.

00:26:33.000 But yeah, men suffer way more from breakups than women do. 0.95

00:26:35.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:26:36.000 And women have that kind of... 1.00

00:26:37.000 They call it the light switch effect, don't they?

00:26:39.000 Where women can be just like... 1.00

00:26:40.000 Good point, yeah.

00:26:41.000 You know, you're with a girl and it's all going really great.

00:26:45.000 And you think, oh, this is brilliant.

00:26:46.000 Oh, just coming up on a Sunday watching Netflix.

00:26:48.000 And then suddenly she's like, I'm not happy!

00:26:50.000 And then it's like...

00:26:51.000 And it's all done.

00:26:52.000 And she just cuts it off immediately.

00:26:54.000 And there are studies that show that women lose interest way faster than men do in men.

00:26:59.000 Yeah.

00:27:00.000 And this is the problem.

00:27:01.000 Don't you think this is the problem with monogamy?

00:27:03.000 Because, I mean, you know, there's some people in this space, obviously, they're promoting monogamy, like marriage and, like, Trad-cons?

00:27:08.000 Oh, let's talk about that, too.

00:27:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's talk about that.

00:27:10.000 But the problem is, it's very, very hard to keep something going, isn't it?

00:27:15.000 Particularly because of, you know, this loss of interest from the women's point of view. 0.99

00:27:19.000 And to be honest, just to add to your point here as well, when you're a monogamous, things become boring, mundane, same routine.

00:27:27.000 She's going to get bored. 0.98

00:27:28.000 Versus, you know what, let's take a trip here, let's go here, let's do this.

00:27:30.000 And they're far more likely to be bored.

00:27:31.000 They're the ones ending relationships and being bored.

00:27:34.000 Sorry, you were saying?

00:27:35.000 Well, it's 70%, isn't it?

00:27:36.000 Yeah, 70 to 80.

00:27:38.000 They're the ones that ended in divorce, yeah.

00:27:40.000 So this is, I think, is another problem.

00:27:42.000 Because even if the guy does luck out and he gets his girlfriend, you know, he finally, after he's been on Tinder for 10 years and he's swiped a million times and he's finally lucked out with this one girl.

00:27:50.000 And then he thinks, all right, okay, now I can sit back.

00:27:53.000 Now I can relax.

00:27:54.000 Now it's all fine because I've got my girl.

00:27:56.000 We can sit.

00:27:57.000 We can watch Netflix.

00:27:58.000 Everything's cool. 0.94

00:27:59.000 But it just fucking isn't, you know? 0.86

00:28:01.000 Especially if she lives here, especially in Miami. 0.97

00:28:03.000 Do you know what I mean?

00:28:03.000 I don't know how as a society we get out of this problem.

00:28:07.000 I don't think there's a solution, to be honest.

00:28:09.000 I think this is just how things are.

00:28:10.000 So we have to learn to adapt.

00:28:12.000 What are your thoughts on these Stratcons running around and saying religion this, religion that? 0.87

00:28:18.000 What's your thoughts on all that?

00:28:20.000 Well, I think there's a bunch of guys, particularly on Twitter, that I see who are, you know, they promote this stuff.

00:28:25.000 And I actually think it could be quite damaging for young men. 0.95

00:28:28.000 Also, the other thing that's really stupid is you get a lot of guys who are, like, in their 20s, you know, and they've been with a woman for, like, maybe a year or two years or something like that. 0.98

00:28:37.000 And they're like, yeah, man! 0.99

00:28:38.000 You know, just, you know, live the dream like me.

00:28:41.000 You know, just forget all this red pill nonsense.

00:28:43.000 Forget all this running around and banging hoes. 1.00

00:28:44.000 You know, you want to be with your girl and blah, blah, blah.

00:28:47.000 It's like, these guys haven't done the hard yards in monogamy.

00:28:50.000 Do you know what I mean?

00:28:51.000 Like, if you want to talk to someone about monogamy, talk to Rollo Tomasi, who's been married for like, what, 20, 25, 27 years.

00:28:56.000 Do you know what I mean?

00:28:57.000 And he says, no, don't do it.

00:28:59.000 Well, yeah, exactly, exactly.

00:29:00.000 But there used to be, I don't know if you know that guy, Caleb Jones.

00:29:03.000 He was a blogger called Black Dragon.

00:29:06.000 I don't, but...

00:29:27.000 You know, now you're doing the hard yards.

00:29:28.000 Now you're on the bloody, you know, you're on the prison yard, aren't you?

00:29:32.000 Cage match, man.

00:29:33.000 Exactly.

00:29:33.000 And that's when it gets tough.

00:29:35.000 So I don't think people can really talk about monogamy and all this stuff unless they've really fucking done it. 0.93

00:29:40.000 Do you know what I mean? 0.89

00:29:41.000 For a length of time.

00:29:42.000 For a long time.

00:29:43.000 And then maybe they can say, yeah, I've got some tips.

00:29:46.000 You know, I can teach you about like Dread Game or, you know, whatever it is to try and keep the excitement going.

00:29:50.000 And people underestimate how much frame you need to maintain that for years.

00:29:54.000 Like you could manage it for a month or two or a couple, you know, maybe a year.

00:29:58.000 But after, like you said, before the fifth year, bro, the level of restraint and command you need for that to work, it's almost impossible to maintain.

00:30:06.000 It really is, bro.

00:30:07.000 Yeah, and that's why I think people are looking at different models for this now.

00:30:13.000 If you look at, say, people like even the Tates or like Sterling or people like this, and they're sort of saying, yeah, we want to have kids.

00:30:21.000 We want to pass on our genetic lineage.

00:30:23.000 But it's not necessarily going to be just settling down.

00:30:26.000 It's not going to be settling down one woman going and living in a small town somewhere. 0.71

00:30:30.000 It's going to be probably multiple women, probably in different locations. 1.00

00:30:33.000 And they're looking for different ways to make it work.

00:30:36.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:30:37.000 My thing with the Tradcons is that, I've said it before, I'll say it again, I think the nuclear family is the backbone of any thriving society. 0.97

00:30:44.000 It's what works, right?

00:30:46.000 But unfortunately, the conventions that kept it in place are no longer in place.

00:30:52.000 Religion, shame, society, families, fathers, all these things have been destroyed thanks to feminism and modern day society.

00:31:00.000 So it's like...

00:31:01.000 The things that kept women in check are no longer there. 0.66

00:31:04.000 And I would argue the things that kept women in check are absolutely destroyed and it's the other way around. 0.94

00:31:10.000 Now we have things in place that incentivize women to do things that are not conducive to a long-term monogamous relationship. 1.00

00:31:16.000 And who's ending the relationships? 0.95

00:31:17.000 Who's more likely to be bored?

00:31:18.000 It's not the men ending things.

00:31:20.000 It's the women. 1.00

00:31:21.000 So my thing is, is that We're good to go.

00:31:44.000 We're not going to fix it because women aren't going to regress on all the work that they've done to get to this point of equality and feminism. 1.00

00:31:50.000 I would argue that women have more rights and privileges than men do nowadays. 1.00

00:31:54.000 So they're not going to go and concede and be like, you know what?

00:31:57.000 Yeah, maybe we should get back in the kitchen.

00:31:59.000 Yeah, there's a couple girls that do it here and there for social media, etc. 1.00

00:32:01.000 They're conservatives, if you guys know what I'm saying.

00:32:04.000 They're conservative themselves.

00:32:05.000 They're saying that because they know they'll get clicks because it's the other way around.

00:32:08.000 But most women, even these conservative chicks, they're capped. 1.00

00:32:11.000 They're not really conservative.

00:32:12.000 They're just...

00:32:13.000 I think?

00:32:30.000 Yo, religion ain't gonna save you, right? 0.89

00:32:32.000 Your mom ain't gonna save you. 0.99

00:32:33.000 Morals isn't gonna save you because these girls don't have morals anymore and they don't have the shame of religion or any of these other things. 1.00

00:32:38.000 So you need to adapt to the marketplace and understand that you gotta understand female nature for what it is. 1.00

00:32:42.000 And a lot of these trad cons just don't fucking get it, man. 0.98

00:32:45.000 Perfect example is Nico. 0.99

00:32:46.000 This guy can't even control his own girls, man. 0.93

00:32:49.000 So how do you keep something going for years?

00:32:51.000 I'm just telling you, bro.

00:32:51.000 Nico L. But yeah.

00:32:54.000 I was going to use the Crowder situation as an example.

00:32:57.000 The Crowder situation is a classic example of it blowing up, isn't it?

00:33:00.000 And then you've got Matt Walsh banging on about it the whole time, and it's sort of like, okay, fine.

00:33:06.000 He's still married.

00:33:07.000 It would seem he's still in a successful marriage.

00:33:09.000 Good for him.

00:33:10.000 Let's hope that remains the case. 0.62

00:33:12.000 But who knows?

00:33:13.000 I bet Stephen Crowder didn't expect that he'd end up where he is.

00:33:16.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:33:18.000 It's very difficult, really, to...

00:33:20.000 And I think...

00:33:22.000 Here's the thing as well.

00:33:23.000 I think giving it out as a sort of de facto advice, right guys, this is what you should do.

00:33:30.000 Find a good woman.

00:33:30.000 Get married.

00:33:31.000 Get married in your mid to late 20s.

00:33:35.000 Start knocking out a load of kids.

00:33:36.000 I think it's bad advice because a lot of these guys are just going lambs to the slaughter.

00:33:40.000 Do you know what I mean?

00:33:40.000 Because these are guys who are listening to this stuff.

00:33:43.000 They're going, yeah, yeah, these trends are right.

00:33:45.000 And they're going to do it.

00:33:45.000 Yeah, man.

00:33:47.000 But they don't have any of the knowledge that you have or they haven't amassed the kind of experience that you guys or any of us have.

00:33:54.000 So they're just going to get chewed over and spat out.

00:33:56.000 Another thing too is that the thing is that being a tradcon, etc.

00:34:01.000 1950?

00:34:02.000 Go ahead.

00:34:02.000 Sure.

00:34:03.000 Do it.

00:34:04.000 Women were different back then. 1.00

00:34:04.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:34:06.000 But the problem is that The Tradcons, I've always used the analogy, they're basically giving these men a butter knife and telling them, go into the gunfight, and it's like, okay, I'm going in there with my butter knife, okay, everyone else has a butter knife, right? 1.00

00:34:19.000 No! 0.98

00:34:19.000 They replaced those butter knives since 1950, and they're fucking machine guns now. 0.98

00:34:23.000 And the women have the machine guns. 1.00

00:34:25.000 And the guys don't understand that you're fighting a fight that you can't necessarily win.

00:34:30.000 And then on top of that, when you get into a marriage, you get into a serious relationship.

00:34:33.000 As the man, you're the one putting way more risk.

00:34:36.000 Because the woman has everything to gain from leaving you. 1.00

00:34:38.000 But the tradicons don't talk about this.

00:34:40.000 They're just saying, go out there and get married blindly, etc.

00:34:42.000 No, because the things that kept women in check are gone, guys.

00:34:46.000 And that's why I always tell these tradicons, and they try to sit there and put, it's not religious, and the Bible, and the Quran, etc. 0.99

00:34:51.000 And I'm like, yo, that's great.

00:34:53.000 Go to one of these countries.

00:34:54.000 Where that's strong and the shame is still there, then you might be able to do it. 1.00

00:34:58.000 But in the West, fuck no. 0.99

00:35:00.000 Was that your plan? 1.00

00:35:02.000 You talk about the Middle East, aren't you?

00:35:04.000 Are you looking for one woman?

00:35:06.000 No, I would have multiple wives. 1.00

00:35:09.000 Disclaimer, I'm a shitty Muslim. 0.99

00:35:12.000 But when I do end up becoming more religious and following the deem, etc., I'm absolutely going to go to a Muslim country, have my wives there. 0.99

00:35:21.000 Because...

00:35:23.000 Environment is huge, and the West in general is not a place conducive to good long-term relationships where your woman is going to be faithful to you, put duty over her own personal happiness. 1.00

00:35:33.000 We live in the United States where...

00:35:34.000 Women are told, be happy. 0.99

00:35:36.000 Your happiness is the priority, not the duty to the family. 0.98

00:35:40.000 I saw a clip, actually, the other day, and it fucking blew my mind.

00:35:44.000 I'll play it for y'all here. 0.90

00:35:45.000 I'll send Mo the link.

00:35:46.000 Mo, you might actually have it in the Telegram chat.

00:35:48.000 This woman is exchanging vows with her man.

00:35:50.000 Oh yeah, I've seen that.

00:35:51.000 And in the vows, right?

00:35:54.000 Go ahead.

00:35:55.000 You used to be a pastor, or would you be a pastor?

00:35:57.000 In the vows, it says, and this is every marriage, it says that whenever they meet for the first time under the developed marriage, they say, hey, Do you also submit to obey your husband for this period of time?

00:36:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:36:10.000 To death to you part. 1.00

00:36:11.000 To death to you part.

00:36:12.000 And she said, in all so many words, nothing.

00:36:15.000 Like, no.

00:36:16.000 Oh, right.

00:36:17.000 Yes, I follow this.

00:36:19.000 She just said...

00:36:20.000 Okay.

00:36:21.000 Next one.

00:36:22.000 And he's like, wait, what?

00:36:23.000 So, imagine... 0.99

00:36:24.000 You didn't agree to that or some bullshit like that. 0.99

00:36:26.000 Imagine you're going to marry a woman and she's... 0.99

00:36:29.000 And the point is to your man obey him.

00:36:31.000 She's like, oh, I don't know about that one.

00:36:32.000 Yeah.

00:36:33.000 And that's what I... And I literally...

00:36:36.000 And that's the thing that scared me.

00:36:38.000 Women want to be wives. 1.00

00:36:40.000 Sorry.

00:36:40.000 Women want to get married, but they don't want to be wives.

00:36:42.000 Yeah.

00:36:43.000 Yeah.

00:36:43.000 It's wild to me.

00:36:44.000 They want to work down the aisle. 0.96

00:36:45.000 They want to wear the white dress. 0.98

00:36:46.000 They want all these benefits of a conventional marriage, but they're not prepared to do their part of the deal, but they want all the benefits of the deal, which is why I tell guys, yo, what are y'all doing?

00:36:56.000 Do you guys not see it with your own two eyes?

00:36:57.000 Women nowadays don't think that they have to submit to you. 1.00

00:36:59.000 Women nowadays don't think that they have to obey you. 1.00

00:37:01.000 They think they're equal to you.

00:37:03.000 Women come in and say, I want an equal partnership, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

00:37:06.000 Bitch, a marriage is not an equal partnership. 1.00

00:37:08.000 Well, they want the Instagram, don't they? 1.00

00:37:10.000 They want the Instagram pictures, and that's it, really.

00:37:12.000 I don't think they think longer term than that.

00:37:15.000 I don't think they think, oh, what's it going to be like in five years?

00:37:17.000 What's it going to be like in ten years?

00:37:18.000 Or anything like that.

00:37:20.000 Let's roll the clip real quick.

00:37:21.000 Mo has it right here. 1.00

00:37:22.000 Look at this shit, guys. 1.00

00:37:23.000 This shit literally made me say, what the fuck is going on, bro? 1.00

00:37:27.000 I was shocked. 1.00

00:37:28.000 I just wonder if...

00:37:30.000 She knew what she was doing. 1.00

00:37:33.000 Look, and I had to comment on that shit. 1.00

00:37:35.000 Look, 1300 likes! 1.00

00:37:36.000 Niggas know, bro!

00:37:38.000 Here, let's hit the play.

00:37:41.000 We did talk about that in counseling.

00:37:45.000 Why he look like Zion Williamson?

00:37:47.000 In sickness.

00:37:48.000 And in health.

00:37:49.000 And in health.

00:37:50.000 To love.

00:37:51.000 Cherish.

00:37:52.000 Cherish.

00:37:52.000 And to obey.

00:37:57.000 We did talk about that in counseling.

00:37:59.000 We did talk about that in counseling.

00:38:01.000 Yes, we did.

00:38:12.000 That we live in a society where men are not respected. 0.99

00:38:15.000 I don't know what the fuck. 0.99

00:38:16.000 This is the most serious situation. 1.00

00:38:18.000 You're at your fucking wedding. 1.00

00:38:20.000 You're going ahead and adhering to your vows, but she's not adhering to hers. 1.00

00:38:24.000 And you want to go ahead and get with this woman long fucking term? 1.00

00:38:27.000 Guys, wake up! 1.00

00:38:28.000 This is what Tradcons are trying to sign y'all up to fucking get involved in. 1.00

00:38:31.000 But I wonder if the woman in that room understood, because for example, she sang it out loud. 0.98

00:38:37.000 Most women never said it out loud. 0.58

00:38:38.000 Oh yeah, I will obey.

00:38:40.000 They say it, but they never do it.

00:38:41.000 But she said it out loud.

00:38:42.000 She's brave as hell.

00:38:44.000 Well, it's gotten to a point now where they're not even hiding it anymore, bro. 0.94

00:38:50.000 That's the clown world that we're in now. 0.91

00:38:51.000 It is crazy to me. 0.87

00:38:53.000 And he just laughed at it. 1.00

00:38:54.000 Bro, I wish some bitch that I was about to get married to said that dumb shit. 1.00

00:38:59.000 I don't know about that. 1.00

00:39:00.000 I would literally walk off the altar. 0.99

00:39:02.000 Are you fucking kidding me? 0.99

00:39:03.000 Well, the brutal honesty, I can actually appreciate it. 0.98

00:39:06.000 But for him to laugh at it and just be like, oh yeah, that's funny.

00:39:09.000 That's crazy, bro.

00:39:11.000 If you're committing...

00:39:12.000 Literally, like, financial suicide to herself right there and there. 0.99

00:39:15.000 She's literally saying, nigga, I'm not listening to you. 0.94

00:39:17.000 Well, I mean, what a frame to start off the marriage. 0.51

00:39:19.000 Do you know what I mean?

00:39:20.000 Because they're going into that.

00:39:21.000 Then probably, I assume, the marriage continued.

00:39:23.000 They signed on the dotted line and everything.

00:39:24.000 And now, you know, she knows she's gone into that marriage having told him that she's not going to obey him, right?

00:39:30.000 So what is the frame that's been set for his masculinity at the beginning of that marriage?

00:39:34.000 Terrible, you know?

00:39:35.000 The foundation is so rocky.

00:39:36.000 And you know the worst part, like I said earlier?

00:39:39.000 Financial suicide.

00:39:40.000 Because you can guarantee...

00:39:41.000 Maybe two years, three years.

00:39:43.000 That should go in.

00:39:44.000 Yeah.

00:39:45.000 Now, I know people are going to say, well, okay, guys.

00:39:47.000 All right.

00:39:48.000 You guys say that religion isn't the thing that's going to save, and you guys are just sitting here promoting degeneracy.

00:39:53.000 What I'm saying is this.

00:39:53.000 No.

00:39:55.000 And I want you guys to give your takes on this. 0.99

00:39:57.000 I'm saying, go out there, get enough experience, understand how women really move, don't get bamboozled, don't have the wool over your eyes, and then I want you to be able to make that decision whether you want to commit to a girl and use religion as a buffer or shame or whatever the fuck, but I want you to make that conscious decision after you've experienced it and you know what the fuck you're getting into. 0.96

00:40:16.000 A lot of these tradcons don't know what they're getting into, don't understand female nature, don't understand the modern day marketplace nowadays with dating, they don't understand How feminism has affected things. 0.99

00:40:24.000 They don't understand that they're going into a fucking gunfight with a butter knife. 1.00

00:40:28.000 I just want you guys to go in there with a goddamn gun and know what you're doing so you can defend yourself. 1.00

00:40:32.000 A lot of you guys are getting married without knowing the consequences. 1.00

00:40:34.000 So I want you to make the decision. 0.84

00:40:37.000 And oh, but this degenerate, blah, blah, blah. 0.95

00:40:39.000 Congratulations. 1.00

00:40:39.000 Welcome to 2023 where all the women that you want to fucking get with are degenerates. 1.00

00:40:43.000 These hoes are going to college and fucking 20 dudes in a goddamn semester. 1.00

00:40:47.000 A lot of you guys are over here crying to me about, oh, I don't know if I could bang 20 girls. 1.00

00:40:50.000 Well, you're fucking better. 0.99

00:40:51.000 Because we've got our show. 0.99

00:40:53.000 A crazy thing, too.

00:40:53.000 Check this out, Troy.

00:40:54.000 And you know this from being all over the world, etc. 0.99

00:40:57.000 At the valutainment thing, we have 20 girls on the fucking panel. 1.00

00:41:00.000 What do I ask them? 0.99

00:41:01.000 How many bodies do you think the average girl has? 1.00

00:41:04.000 The girls are like 10, 20, 30, 50, 70, 80, 7, blah, blah, blah.

00:41:09.000 Numbers all over the place.

00:41:10.000 But what's the main point?

00:41:11.000 The average is about 20 to 30 men that a 25-year-old woman has had sex with.

00:41:16.000 You think the average guy, the 25 years old, has had sex with 25 to 30 women? 0.66

00:41:20.000 No! 1.00

00:41:21.000 Fuck no! 1.00

00:41:22.000 He might be lucky if he has five. 1.00

00:41:24.000 So you're telling me that, and then I ask the girls, in a relationship, do you want the man to be more sexually experienced or you?

00:41:30.000 All of them.

00:41:30.000 I want the man to be more sexually experienced.

00:41:32.000 So what the fuck are y'all doing? 1.00

00:41:34.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:41:35.000 What about you, Fresh?

00:41:36.000 Would you ever get married?

00:41:37.000 Could you see the white picket fence one day and the special senorita?

00:41:42.000 Let me answer this just real quick.

00:41:42.000 Um...

00:41:44.000 So, I'm going to call him Zion.

00:41:46.000 Zion did one thing wrong in this situation.

00:41:48.000 Oh, the guy?

00:41:49.000 Yeah.

00:41:49.000 You guys know what it is?

00:41:50.000 What?

00:41:50.000 He didn't vet the girl properly.

00:41:52.000 Yeah.

00:41:52.000 And I think that's the part where most guys don't see.

00:41:55.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:41:56.000 And that causes so many issues because if you can vet a girl for a year or more, you test her, you see where she's at mentally, obviously as well, you know, where her head is at.

00:42:04.000 You can see, okay, she's actually a girl that can listen to me, follow my program, She's the next person to be around.

00:42:11.000 She's not the B word.

00:42:13.000 She's actually someone I can stay with.

00:42:17.000 I can stay with long term.

00:42:19.000 The point is that at that point, you can honestly say, you know what?

00:42:23.000 I made a good choice for this woman.

00:42:24.000 She deserves to be married to me.

00:42:28.000 Oh, she's hot. 1.00

00:42:29.000 I'll take care of whatever I can.

00:42:31.000 She's beautiful, bro.

00:42:32.000 I gotta marry her.

00:42:33.000 I gotta tie her down. 1.00

00:42:34.000 Bro, you don't know her that well.

00:42:36.000 So this lady here, he's about to marry or married already.

00:42:39.000 In this case, his problem is that he did better.

00:42:41.000 And to answer your question about me being married in the future, I did it before, and I can appreciate what it was.

00:42:48.000 I just think now, me personally speaking, I'm more like, I want to say, of a future plan for myself.

00:42:54.000 I know now that I don't want to go down that route of monogamy.

00:42:57.000 I do understand it's a place for having a main girl or a couple of main girls.

00:43:03.000 And I think in the future, what I want to have is maybe...

00:43:06.000 A man or two that I can trust and kind of like Rockwood, and that would be my strong suit.

00:43:10.000 But to get married again, it's kind of tough for me to ask that right now.

00:43:13.000 I genuinely think that's the only way you can do it.

00:43:14.000 You have to have more than one girl. 1.00

00:43:15.000 Well, no, it's a really interesting point.

00:43:19.000 And I think like all of these, like what you're saying, what you're talking about, you know, multiple wives, then you've got like the Tates.

00:43:25.000 Natural Dread game.

00:43:27.000 Exactly, exactly.

00:43:28.000 And I think one of the problems here is that a lot of guys, young guys who come into this, they don't know what the options are.

00:43:34.000 Right.

00:43:35.000 And, like, people say to me, well, you know, because I'm in my 40s, and people say to me, oh, you're going to be a lonely old man, and blah, blah, blah.

00:43:41.000 I'm like, well, I am already.

00:43:43.000 But no, no, but seriously, like, I... There's a couple of things here.

00:43:48.000 Firstly, I'm living testament to the fact that you can be in your late 40s, and you can still date around, and you can still have an amazing time, and you can travel, if that's what you want to do.

00:43:56.000 Travel is good for his age, guys.

00:43:58.000 Moisturizer.

00:43:59.000 Thank you.

00:43:59.000 Absolutely.

00:44:00.000 So there's that.

00:44:01.000 Would I rule out?

00:44:03.000 I mean, I've been in monogamous relationships.

00:44:04.000 It's been great.

00:44:06.000 I've been with certainly one woman I've absolutely loved, and it was amazing.

00:44:11.000 Do I think monogamy is an ideal state for a man at any age?

00:44:15.000 Probably not, because we've always got those other urges, haven't we?

00:44:18.000 Do you know what I mean?

00:44:19.000 So I think what you're talking about, if I had an end state in mind, it would probably be more like something like that, where you've got a main, or you've got a couple of mains, whatever.

00:44:27.000 But the point is...

00:44:29.000 I think guys get sucked into this tradcon theater. 1.00

00:44:31.000 They think, shit, I'm going to turn 30. 1.00

00:44:33.000 I need to find her. 1.00

00:44:34.000 I need to settle down.

00:44:35.000 Otherwise, it's going to be too late.

00:44:36.000 It isn't.

00:44:37.000 It isn't.

00:44:38.000 You know?

00:44:38.000 You can keep going into your 40s.

00:44:39.000 I reckon probably 50s.

00:44:41.000 Yeah.

00:44:42.000 I reckon, I mean, 60s.

00:44:43.000 But I have a kid at like 80.

00:44:44.000 Yeah.

00:44:45.000 I mean, you know, 60s, you're going to be slowing down, whatever.

00:44:48.000 It becomes less of a priority. 0.97

00:44:49.000 But if you're concerned out there about, oh, shit, you know, by the time I hit 35, I'm not going to be able to meet girls anymore. 0.68

00:44:55.000 It's absolutely not true, particularly if you're traveling. 0.97

00:44:57.000 You made a good point, Troy.

00:44:59.000 Yeah.

00:44:59.000 You mentioned options.

00:45:01.000 Yeah.

00:45:01.000 I think most guys don't know they have options.

00:45:03.000 Like, for example, I didn't know because I just came to America.

00:45:06.000 I thought, you know, you get a good job, you get married.

00:45:08.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:45:09.000 Stupid! 1.00

00:45:09.000 But... 1.00

00:45:10.000 I went to St.

00:45:11.000 Augustine to visit my uncle like a couple months later on, right?

00:45:14.000 And he has a big mansion, nice cars, you know, lives by himself.

00:45:20.000 But, down the block, a couple blocks down, his girlfriend lives in her own house.

00:45:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:45:26.000 And they come together, they eat, they go out, and they go back home separately.

00:45:30.000 Yeah.

00:45:31.000 When they want to travel, travel the world, and they're together, but they're not married.

00:45:35.000 It's not that serious.

00:45:36.000 The things happen, hey, I'm going out today with somebody else, is what it is.

00:45:39.000 Click.

00:45:40.000 I'll go through the chores.

00:45:42.000 The point is, he set it up where he has his best interest, and she's cool with it, following his program.

00:45:47.000 And that, to me, is happy, because they're both happy as hell.

00:45:49.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:45:51.000 I genuinely think this is going to sound fucked up. 0.99

00:45:53.000 Women are happiest with a man when they don't know where they stand. 1.00

00:45:56.000 And guys, I hate to say it like that.

00:45:58.000 I know that's evil, etc.

00:46:01.000 But the reality is, guys, is that women love it when they don't necessarily know where they stand.

00:46:05.000 And then when you do give them that...

00:46:07.000 How do I say this?

00:46:09.000 You give them a little bit of that comfort, right?

00:46:11.000 Where it's like, no, don't worry, blah, blah, but they need to feel that dread, bro.

00:46:14.000 That's the only way. 0.93

00:46:15.000 And it sucks, guys, that it's like that, but this is the way that females are. 1.00

00:46:19.000 They need to constantly know that they're with the best guy, and the only way that you can truly affirm that you're the best fucking guy for them is when you have other women. 1.00

00:46:26.000 And when you're picking her over those other girls, she's like, damn, okay. 0.98

00:46:30.000 I got this guy, but how much longer do I have him? 1.00

00:46:33.000 Versus your dumb ass is sitting there, okay, babe, let's hang out and watch Netflix together all the time and you're not on your shit. 1.00

00:46:38.000 She knows that she's a top priority, etc. 1.00

00:46:41.000 That's why so many guys get broken up with is because they revolve their life around their girl. 1.00

00:46:44.000 No, motherfucker. 1.00

00:46:45.000 The girl needs to revolve her life around you. 1.00

00:46:47.000 You got to put your mission and you above everything else because she knows, let me know deep down, if you're successful, you got your shit together, she's going to benefit as a byproduct. 0.99

00:46:55.000 But if she's the top priority, her security is fucked because she doesn't know what the fuck you're going to do because you're basically following her lead. 0.99

00:47:02.000 I mean, it's a sad reality of life though, isn't it? 0.99

00:47:06.000 Women particularly, they tend to want the thing that they can't quite get. 1.00

00:47:09.000 Yeah.

00:47:09.000 And the problem I think with a lot of guys, what does the average guy do on a date?

00:47:13.000 Sit down on a date, sit down over dinner, because they've gone for dinner, which they shouldn't do, and they're sitting down like, oh, so, tell me about, what are you looking for in the next five years? 0.60

00:47:21.000 And he's like, yeah, well, I've got a really good 401k, and I'm hoping to get into a middle management role at my law firm, and all this kind of bullshit. 0.98

00:47:28.000 And just laying it all out on a plate, you've got to retain some fucking mystery. 0.98

00:47:33.000 You've got to have that mystery, and you've got to maintain that mystery. 0.98

00:47:36.000 Now, when I date women, I mean, I take, cause I'm all over the place anyway. 1.00

00:47:40.000 So, you know, I was, I met, you know, I was dating a couple- Your lifestyle alone doesn't work for you.

00:47:44.000 Exactly, exactly, exactly.

00:47:45.000 So, you know, I'm dating this, I met this girl the other week in London and she's messaging me today and she's like, what are you doing?

00:47:50.000 I'm like, yeah, I'm in Miami.

00:47:51.000 She goes, when are you coming back?

00:47:52.000 And I'm like- I genuinely don't know.

00:47:58.000 I don't know what the answer to that question is.

00:48:00.000 So I'm like, yeah, a couple of weeks, blah, blah, blah, whatever.

00:48:03.000 And I keep everything very vague.

00:48:05.000 And it's partly because that's the necessity of the way my life is.

00:48:09.000 But it's also because I know that that works in terms of keeping them interested.

00:48:15.000 Because can you imagine that?

00:48:15.000 The regular guy who's there like, well, I'm around on Tuesday.

00:48:18.000 Let's go to, you know, let's go and see.

00:48:20.000 Routine, boring.

00:48:21.000 You know, let's go and see Oppenheimer.

00:48:23.000 And I think the other big mistake that guys make is that they think that women are like men.

00:48:28.000 Men love consistency.

00:48:30.000 We like having routines.

00:48:31.000 We like knowing that, you know, on such and such day, this is going to happen, etc.

00:48:34.000 Men understand routines and consistency because we understand that success is the byproduct of consistency.

00:48:41.000 So men kind of innately understand that you must be consistent for anything really to happen. 0.99

00:48:45.000 Women, though, on the other hand, motherfuckers, don't like consistency, alright? 1.00

00:48:49.000 They don't live in a consistent world. 1.00

00:48:50.000 If you look at all the hottest girls, they live a chaotic fucking life. 1.00

00:48:54.000 They're going to a club one second, they're on a boat another second, they're living life. 0.99

00:48:57.000 Girls like to be spontaneous, or I go with the wind. 1.00

00:49:00.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:49:01.000 Women are not like men. 0.98

00:49:02.000 So you gotta understand that women love chaos and they love drama and they love their emotions running wild. 1.00

00:49:07.000 Consistency does not breed that shit. 1.00

00:49:09.000 Okay? 1.00

00:49:10.000 Women are not like men. 0.98

00:49:11.000 I think that's one of the biggest mistakes guys think is that men are like women.

00:49:14.000 She's my best friend. 1.00

00:49:15.000 No, she's not, you fucking faggot. 1.00

00:49:17.000 Men and women are not the fucking same at all. 1.00

00:49:19.000 You like consistency because you're a man and that's a masculine trait. 0.98

00:49:22.000 You understand that consistency is a success.

00:49:24.000 Women, on the other hand, don't like consistency because they get bored easily. 1.00

00:49:29.000 Yeah, they like drama.

00:49:30.000 They like the drama.

00:49:31.000 So, honestly speaking, I'll never say this on YouTube.

00:49:35.000 Since I'm Rumble, I'll say it now.

00:49:36.000 This is a dark secret that happens with women where, let's say you have other women in your life, right? 1.00

00:49:40.000 She's not sure if you're going to show up tomorrow, if you're going to be there the next day.

00:49:44.000 But, you know, you give her a good experience, a good time.

00:49:46.000 She loves that.

00:49:47.000 But you're not really stable.

00:49:48.000 You're like, you know what?

00:49:49.000 I'll see you when I have free time.

00:49:50.000 I'm not sure yet.

00:49:51.000 For example, you don't know where you're going back to the UK. That's kind of like mystery up in the air.

00:49:55.000 Then as well, you know what? 0.98

00:49:56.000 Damn, what's he doing? 0.99

00:49:57.000 Is he with the girls? 1.00

00:49:58.000 Is he working?

00:49:58.000 I have no idea.

00:50:00.000 So next thing she sees you, you know what she's going to do? 0.99

00:50:02.000 Give you the best sex possible. 0.91

00:50:03.000 So having that time away, having that like, you know what? 0.99

00:50:06.000 Damn, I don't know what's coming up next. 0.97

00:50:08.000 It's mystery. 0.99

00:50:09.000 And she wants to make sure, you know what?

00:50:11.000 He won't forget me next time.

00:50:12.000 Yeah, because she wants to keep hold of you.

00:50:14.000 So she's going to give you the best in order to...

00:50:15.000 I wish it wasn't like that, bro. 0.99

00:50:17.000 And I wish women were more like men and you can actually be yourself in all this other shit. 1.00

00:50:21.000 But the reality is that, no man, you gotta fucking, women like games, you gotta play the fucking game, unfortunately bro. 1.00

00:50:27.000 You really do, and it's like, it is shit, because there would be nothing better than if it was just like, yeah man, you know, I really like you, and you know, it's you and me babe, and all of that, and it would be fucking great. 1.00

00:50:38.000 But they're not like that. 0.99

00:50:39.000 But you know what?

00:50:40.000 I enjoy this.

00:50:41.000 You know why I enjoy this?

00:50:41.000 Because I know the truth.

00:50:42.000 So I don't take it personal.

00:50:44.000 They act, act how I act, but I know the truth.

00:50:46.000 So now I know the truth, I have power in knowing that.

00:50:49.000 I'm going to play the game where I want to play the game.

00:50:50.000 You know what's scary? 0.99

00:50:52.000 90% plus of men, I would say 95% plus of men, will never understand what the fuck we're talking about. 0.99

00:50:57.000 That is true. 0.98

00:50:58.000 They'll never get to this realization. 1.00

00:50:59.000 They'll never understand this shit. 1.00

00:51:00.000 They'll never know that women are not like men and consistency is actually their fucking kryptonite. 1.00

00:51:05.000 Most guys will never know. 0.99

00:51:06.000 But whose fault was that? 1.00

00:51:10.000 Yeah, it's theirs for being faggots. 1.00

00:51:12.000 There you go. 1.00

00:51:13.000 So Rollo talked about this, didn't he?

00:51:15.000 He said there's the old set of books and the new set of books.

00:51:18.000 And it's like they're reading the old set of books, which is like the 1950s, sort of, the 1950s script, which is get a good job and, you know, take her out for dinner and dress nice and go to church on Sunday and chivalry and all that.

00:51:31.000 And, you know, you'll meet that.

00:51:33.000 And that's kind of the Matt Walsh approach, isn't it?

00:51:35.000 Yeah.

00:51:36.000 You know, but the new set of books...

00:51:38.000 It's completely different. 0.99

00:51:40.000 The new set of books is the fucking club in Miami. 1.00

00:51:42.000 You know, it's the fucking, you know, girls dancing on the pole. 1.00

00:51:44.000 I mean, it's OnlyFans. 1.00

00:51:46.000 It's all of that shit. 0.99

00:51:47.000 And you've got to get with the program, haven't you? 1.00

00:51:50.000 You know, as a guy.

00:51:51.000 You really do, man.

00:51:51.000 If you don't, you won't be punished for it.

00:51:53.000 I think if you have issues where you're getting played, flaked on, not getting sex, not getting what you want, why is it happening?

00:52:00.000 Okay, there's no one wrong with me.

00:52:02.000 I need to fix it myself or work on myself to become better.

00:52:05.000 If you stay the same, then what do you expect?

00:52:07.000 Same results.

00:52:07.000 Here's another thing too.

00:52:09.000 And Troy, I want to get your take on this because I know with your clients, you have to probably beat this into their head. 1.00

00:52:15.000 I tweeted about this shit the other day and a lot of people were like, holy fuck. 1.00

00:52:18.000 And what I said basically was that If you let them, women will absolutely waste your fucking time. 1.00

00:52:24.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:52:25.000 Right? 0.99

00:52:25.000 And if a chick, like, drags you on, you're on a fourth, fifth, sixth date, you haven't even kissed her, you haven't smashed nothing, like, nine out of ten times, bro, that's your fucking fault. 0.99

00:52:34.000 Because girls will sit there and let you waste your time on them, guys. 1.00

00:52:38.000 It's on you to get rid of the girl quickly.

00:52:41.000 And I would say...

00:52:42.000 Correct me if I'm wrong.

00:52:43.000 What do you think here, Troy?

00:52:44.000 I think half the game is getting rid of time wasters.

00:52:47.000 It is.

00:52:47.000 It's better to be polarizing than it is to be a nice guy.

00:52:52.000 And actually, Tom Serrero, we mentioned before.

00:52:55.000 Tom Serrero, British RIP Tom Serrero, great British day gamer.

00:52:59.000 He talks about this.

00:53:00.000 He talks about you want to get women... 0.98

00:53:03.000 Out of the gray zone, you know?

00:53:05.000 Like, you want to be... 1.00

00:53:07.000 Stop hiding your dick. 1.00

00:53:08.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:53:08.000 That's what he would say. 1.00

00:53:09.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:53:09.000 He said, don't hide your dick. 1.00

00:53:12.000 And what he meant by that was, he talks about how, at the beginning, he was a very, like, nice guy. 1.00

00:53:16.000 He's a very nice guy game, whatever.

00:53:17.000 And he became more sexual in the way that he approached as he went on.

00:53:21.000 And that's polarizing, because some women are going to go with that. 1.00

00:53:24.000 A lot of women aren't. 1.00

00:53:25.000 A lot of women are like, fuck that. 1.00

00:53:26.000 You know, I'm not, you know, I'm not into the guy in this way, or that's not how I, you know, I'm whatever. 1.00

00:53:30.000 And so they fall by the wayside.

00:53:33.000 And so the way that we approach now, coming back to the cold approach, is the way that we approach now is we are making the effort to have a sexualized undertone in it.

00:53:43.000 You know, we're creating that man-to-woman polarity. 1.00

00:53:46.000 Now, what that does is it separates the we from the chaff because some women are going to be like, no, fuck that guy. 1.00

00:53:53.000 I'm not going anywhere near him. 1.00

00:53:54.000 Fine.

00:53:55.000 She goes away.

00:53:56.000 No problem. 0.99

00:53:56.000 But the women who are into you, they're really fucking into that. 0.99

00:53:59.000 Mm-hmm. 0.98

00:54:00.000 And I think you're better off because I think so many guys are scared of rejection.

00:54:04.000 I want you guys to reframe rejection and look at it like, oh, this is good.

00:54:07.000 Because when you come in and you make it man to woman immediately and you get rejected, that's fantastic because now you've effectively screened out a potential time waster. 0.84

00:54:17.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:54:18.000 Exactly.

00:54:18.000 And now you can go ahead and deal with the women that actually look at you from a sexual frame versus girls that will sit there and be like, oh, well, we could be friends.

00:54:25.000 The worst you could do is sit there and take the phone number of a girl that said we could be friends. 1.00

00:54:28.000 No, don't fucking do that shit, man. 1.00

00:54:30.000 Well, you shouldn't be going on four or five dates. 1.00

00:54:32.000 So let's be honest.

00:54:33.000 I mean, you want to go on a...

00:54:34.000 Basically, right, my date process is very simple.

00:54:37.000 I don't know if you guys agree, but I tend to...

00:54:39.000 You meet her.

00:54:40.000 The first date is always drinks.

00:54:42.000 I always go for drinks.

00:54:43.000 Yeah.

00:54:43.000 And it's basically like, we go to the bar, nice lounge bar, something like low lighting, ideally sitting next to her, so that you could have a bit of, you know, a bit of physicality, a bit of touch and stuff.

00:54:53.000 Sit down, you're getting to know each other, and you're also upping the ante with the flirtation.

00:54:57.000 And I would normally have about two drinks, and then I would say, hey, listen, my place is over there, why don't we go back, watch some YouTube videos, whatever.

00:55:05.000 Okay, so I'm giving her that invitation to come back with me.

00:55:08.000 Literally after about two drinks.

00:55:09.000 You might be an hour in, an hour and a half in, whatever.

00:55:11.000 Yeah.

00:55:15.000 Mm-hmm.

00:55:33.000 With the same girl is also a road to nowhere. 0.71

00:55:35.000 You need to be, as the guy, you've got to be the one who's moving it forward.

00:55:39.000 You've got to be the guy who's leading it towards the conclusion.

00:55:42.000 She's either going to go with that or she's not.

00:55:43.000 If she isn't, and she leaves, great.

00:55:46.000 Yep. 1.00

00:55:47.000 Fucking turn into Leonidas, bro. 1.00

00:55:48.000 Like, seriously, you just kick that bitch out, man. 1.00

00:55:50.000 Like, uh... 1.00

00:55:54.000 We'll be ready to do that shit, man. 1.00

00:55:56.000 I think that process right there, you're going to find, for example, women that are into you, women that just want to have a good time. 1.00

00:56:02.000 And if you can eliminate that from the very beginning, you win.

00:56:04.000 Now, just to add to your point as well, I would just say add into that multiple locations.

00:56:08.000 For example, you can have the bar at the first location, maybe like a dance club, second location, or even like a pool lounge, third location.

00:56:16.000 You can spend 30 minutes at each.

00:56:17.000 Exactly.

00:56:18.000 And then get out of there, back to your crib. 0.56

00:56:20.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:56:21.000 And you want to have good logistics as well.

00:56:23.000 So you want to have those decent logistics.

00:56:24.000 I noticed actually Michael Sartain when he was on here, when you did that Destiny, Michael Sartain, Rollo thing.

00:56:30.000 And Sartain made a really good point about logistics, about how important logistics is.

00:56:35.000 And he said, you know, I lived on the Vegas Strip and that was when my results skyrocketed because I had that.

00:56:40.000 I also, actually, I'll just say shout out to Destiny here.

00:56:42.000 I also actually thought that his, I didn't entirely agree with everything he said, but I think what he was saying about the guys who want to smash The guys who smash are the guys who really want to smash.

00:56:51.000 Yeah, he made a good point.

00:56:52.000 I thought that was a good point.

00:56:53.000 Yeah.

00:56:53.000 Because I think that's true.

00:56:55.000 I think if you really want to get this done, you've got to go out there and make it happen.

00:56:59.000 And it's like you used to talk about, you know, the 40 or 50 approaches in the Miami clubs.

00:57:03.000 And so I think he was correct.

00:57:05.000 Dustin is correct about that.

00:57:05.000 That volume overrides everything.

00:57:07.000 When it comes to getting laid.

00:57:08.000 Absolutely.

00:57:09.000 And one of the things that we've been talking about quite a lot recently is about testosterone levels.

00:57:13.000 Because if you look at average testosterone levels amongst guys now are at an all-time low.

00:57:18.000 And we think, or increasingly we're starting to think, myself and James and people I work with, Is a lot of this actually down to testosterone?

00:57:24.000 Because if you're high T, you're naturally going to be going out there.

00:57:28.000 You're going to be going to the club.

00:57:29.000 You could go out tonight and be in the club until 5 in the morning. 1.00

00:57:31.000 Just talk to every fucking girl in the club. 1.00

00:57:33.000 You've got to find somebody. 1.00

00:57:35.000 Most guys aren't going to do that.

00:57:37.000 Why is that?

00:57:37.000 Well, it's probably because they don't want it enough.

00:57:40.000 And the thing is...

00:57:43.000 And Destiny always does.

00:57:44.000 He makes these disingenuous arguments.

00:57:46.000 But he's correct, as in...

00:57:47.000 Because they were arguing what's the most important thing to getting a girl looks-money status.

00:57:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:57:52.000 And then he went ahead and said it's volume.

00:57:54.000 But volume isn't a part of the equation because the thing is that...

00:57:58.000 What I mean by this is that...

00:58:01.000 Like, volume is just required, period, regardless of your looks, money, and status, to a degree.

00:58:05.000 The only thing that looks, money, and status does is you don't have to work as much volume to get results.

00:58:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:58:11.000 So, like, see, Dustin, if you watch this shit, I know what you be doing, bro. 0.99

00:58:15.000 Because when they were doing that debate in my head, I was like, I'm moderating, whatever. 0.99

00:58:18.000 But I saw what he did.

00:58:19.000 They're talking about money, looks, and status.

00:58:21.000 And then he says, oh, but the guy that just goes out there and talks to most girls is blah, blah, blah.

00:58:24.000 That is true.

00:58:26.000 However, two things can be true at the same time.

00:58:28.000 The reality is the more looks, the more status that you have, right, looks, money, and status, the more of it that you have, the less volume you have to work to be successful.

00:58:38.000 He mentioned the foundation is intent.

00:58:40.000 So be careful because intent means if I actively go out there consistently over a period of time, I will get more results than the guy that has money or status. 0.99

00:58:48.000 Because once again, my intent is only to fuck. 0.98

00:58:50.000 So this means I'm on the ground, bootstrapped, going to clubs, going to locations, getting girls. 1.00

00:58:55.000 Which means on paper, I'm getting more girls.

00:58:58.000 However, the attainment can't be retained because once again, if I'm not successful, if I have that game, I might get her, but can I really keep her?

00:59:06.000 I guess you basically made the argument that the guys that talk to most girls get the most girls.

00:59:09.000 That is true, but that's not really the argument because regardless, you have to talk to women and work volume. 1.00

00:59:13.000 But yes, the person that works the most volume, regardless of looks, money, and status, will get the most girls. 1.00

00:59:18.000 But you also got to take into account how much volume are they working, what is the success rate, etc.

00:59:23.000 Your success rate is going to be shitty if you're a lower status guy, even though you're getting laid. 0.99

00:59:26.000 And the quality of women that you're dealing with is going to be ugly as fuck. 1.00

00:59:29.000 You know? 1.00

00:59:29.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:59:29.000 Sorry, Troy. 1.00

00:59:30.000 Well, he seemed to be making an argument about, you know, that study that was talking about body mass index and height, and he was saying that there wasn't a huge differentiation between...

00:59:41.000 Looks and smashing.

00:59:42.000 Yeah, between looks and smashing.

00:59:44.000 And then he said this thing about volume.

00:59:46.000 I just find that very hard to believe, because I think we all know, if there were two guys and they put in exactly the same amount of effort...

00:59:52.000 There we go.

00:59:53.000 And there was a guy who was the better looking and more in shape, whatever...

00:59:57.000 Absolutely.

01:00:18.000 So, volume does trump everything.

01:00:20.000 And you have to bear in mind, your competition is probably not doing the volume.

01:00:23.000 Absolutely, the volume is what it is.

01:00:25.000 But my thing is, I always tell guys, you've got to work the volume regardless.

01:00:28.000 However, when you work on yourself, you work less volume to get a higher success rate, and you're going to get better quality girls. 0.84

01:00:35.000 You're the saying that goes, hard work is talent.

01:00:38.000 And when it comes to actual volume itself, bro, you could be a Chad Tyrone, it doesn't really matter.

01:00:43.000 Ever put in 100 girls a day, you put in only 10? 0.88

01:00:46.000 Dude, I'm going to win all for numbers alone.

01:00:48.000 Because the volume that I have is way more than you.

01:00:50.000 Which is why I'm not the best looking guy in the room.

01:00:53.000 Of course, just saying that.

01:00:54.000 But my volume is incredible, bro.

01:00:56.000 The scale I have, Instagram, online sites, for example, in person.

01:01:00.000 The scale is incredible.

01:01:01.000 So just by sharing numbers, I'll beat everybody.

01:01:03.000 Yeah, absolutely, man.

01:01:05.000 Absolutely.

01:01:05.000 I'll hit some of these rumble rants, and then we can get into the cold approach.

01:01:08.000 It was good just chopping it up about random stuff.

01:01:12.000 So I'll hit some of these rants.

01:01:14.000 And guys, thank you so much for supporting, bro.

01:01:15.000 We really appreciate that, man.

01:01:16.000 Like I said before, we're banned off the YouTubes right now, so appreciate that.

01:01:21.000 Yeah, YouTube Joe for two weeks.

01:01:22.000 Man, all Christian believers should read Romans 14.

01:01:24.000 If we could get this right, man, what a force we could be.

01:01:27.000 Okay?

01:01:27.000 Cool.

01:01:28.000 That's from Cam Two Times.

01:01:29.000 L2, shout out to HK. Okay, appreciate that.

01:01:32.000 My showman goes, a video going around of a black man who caught his wife cheating when he read her text. 0.99

01:01:38.000 She told the other guy it was the best sex she ever had and she was sore afterwards. 0.99

01:01:43.000 Words of an experienced woman. 0.99

01:01:44.000 Yeah, bro.

01:01:46.000 Is that the Adam 22 thing?

01:01:49.000 Nah, it's not.

01:01:50.000 I see what you did there.

01:01:52.000 Nah, nah.

01:01:52.000 Oh, okay.

01:01:53.000 Because he knew what was happening.

01:01:55.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:01:56.000 Okay.

01:01:57.000 Cheesy Beast YouTube goes, on 21 working 14-hour shifts, should I still go to the gym if it affects my sleep?

01:02:03.000 Gonna cut the working hours back a bit in two months.

01:02:06.000 Uh...

01:02:08.000 Yeah, bro, you need to be sleeping eight to ten hours a night, man, if you really want to get gains, getting, you know, one gram per pound of body weight protein.

01:02:16.000 But yeah, I mean, 14-hour shifts, bro, you can sleep.

01:02:19.000 You just don't got time for nothing else, bro.

01:02:21.000 You know what I mean?

01:02:22.000 So go to the gym before you go work your 14-hour shift, my friend.

01:02:25.000 Just switch things around.

01:02:26.000 Don't waste your time, guys.

01:02:28.000 All 23.

01:02:28.000 All 2023.

01:02:29.000 J. Soul Life.

01:02:30.000 Okay?

01:02:31.000 And we got here Eddie the Great.

01:02:34.000 Thank you, gentlemen.

01:02:34.000 Payment for the value.

01:02:35.000 Thank you so much, bro.

01:02:35.000 I appreciate it.

01:02:38.000 The Rumble Rants go a lot further than the Super Chats do, so we really appreciate that, guys. 0.94

01:02:43.000 So yeah, like I said, we're always going to read your Rumble Rants, because Rumble is the future.

01:02:47.000 We really do believe that.

01:02:50.000 Cold approach.

01:02:50.000 So where are we at?

01:02:51.000 Yeah, did you want to hit the cold approach, or how did you want to...

01:02:55.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:02:56.000 So let's talk about what it is, why it's important, and how guys should probably go about it.

01:03:02.000 Because I think this is kind of a lost art form nowadays.

01:03:05.000 You know, just to give you guys a quick little history thing on my thing before I turn it to Troy.

01:03:08.000 I think it's one of the best ways to approach women. 0.99

01:03:10.000 It's something that I used to do most of the time before, you know, Obviously, we blew up on internet and everything, so nowadays cold approaching is a little bit harder than it used to be.

01:03:19.000 I know who you are! 0.99

01:03:20.000 So it's like, fuck. 1.00

01:03:21.000 You're that guy on TikTok! 1.00

01:03:23.000 So I can't do it as much as I want to nowadays.

01:03:25.000 I still do it.

01:03:26.000 Don't get it twisted, but I can't do it as much as I want to.

01:03:30.000 But, you know, Mystery made it popular.

01:03:31.000 I got to give him his credit on that, that, you know, he made it a thing in the early 2000s, cold approaching women. 0.94

01:03:37.000 Yeah.

01:03:37.000 And yeah, I mean, the mystery method is a great way to go about it.

01:03:41.000 You know, you got the London day game approach.

01:03:43.000 There's a bunch of ways to do it.

01:03:45.000 But I think it's something that needs to be in your repertoire as a man.

01:03:49.000 It's just something you need to learn how to do. 0.98

01:03:51.000 You know, I know a lot of guys, your dad will probably never teach you this shit, but this is something you need to do because you're not going to go ahead and find your dream girl a lot of times on a dating app and or Instagram. 0.95

01:03:59.000 And to be honest with y'all, I think for impact and showing character and personality... 0.97

01:04:15.000 Frigging Cole Poch is the best.

01:04:17.000 However, versus scale, not the best.

01:04:19.000 But once again, once you're going to meet in person, you have way more of an impact on her than you do online.

01:04:25.000 And you can still run the online game after the fact when you meet her.

01:04:29.000 You can do both.

01:04:30.000 If you add both of them together, double whammy.

01:04:33.000 We'll turn it to you, man.

01:04:34.000 Go ahead.

01:04:34.000 No, absolutely.

01:04:35.000 And I mean, what you should ideally do is to have a decent Instagram.

01:04:38.000 And obviously, that's where you've always excelled.

01:04:40.000 And you guys are obviously blown up now.

01:04:42.000 Because if you meet her in real life, and then you add her on Instagram, say, look at my Instagram, and then she can see your stories, she can see your pictures, she can see your lifestyle.

01:04:51.000 That is when the real magic happens.

01:04:52.000 But no, Cold Approach is basically just going up and talking to a woman that you didn't know before that you are attracted to and making something happen.

01:04:59.000 It's as simple as that, really.

01:05:01.000 Now, people break it down into day game, a night game, and that's valid because obviously there are some differences.

01:05:08.000 But ultimately, in the end, it's really just going up and having a conversation with a woman that you fancy, that you like, you know, trying to...

01:05:15.000 Create some sort of chemistry between the two of you.

01:05:17.000 I think it's essential because...

01:05:19.000 And actually, what you're saying, we live in this world of dating apps.

01:05:23.000 Everybody's on the apps now.

01:05:25.000 And that is becoming the standardized method of how to meet.

01:05:27.000 And when you talk to the black pill guys, they'll always be like... 1.00

01:05:30.000 Not that we do talk to them, but the black pill guys will be like, well, everyone meets online now. 1.00

01:05:34.000 And look, women reject 95% of men on dating apps or whatever the stat is.

01:05:38.000 Well, fine. 0.99

01:05:40.000 But why is everyone reliant on the fucking dating apps? 0.99

01:05:42.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:05:42.000 Why not just go and talk to the girl in Whole Foods? 0.99

01:05:44.000 Why not just go and talk to the girl you see in the Starbucks or whatever, right?

01:05:49.000 So you should definitely be learning the skill set and you should be incorporating it into your repertoire.

01:05:55.000 That's not to say don't do the apps.

01:05:56.000 It's not to say don't do Social Circle or Night Game as well, but you should definitely be doing some cold approach.

01:06:03.000 I think for a basis, if you can master a cold approach, you can do all the rest.

01:06:08.000 Because, once again, the skill it takes to learn about rejection...

01:06:12.000 And actually, to me, it's not rejection.

01:06:13.000 It's more like, thank you for not wasting my time.

01:06:15.000 I think that's going to be key in this process of cold approach.

01:06:18.000 And then secondly...

01:06:19.000 When it comes to cold approach, if you can actually master the skill like I said earlier, you become more resilient, more steadfast, you have more frame, and you don't get as bluster when a girl flexed on you.

01:06:29.000 Oh, you know what?

01:06:29.000 Okay, next girl.

01:06:30.000 Simple.

01:06:30.000 And here's the other thing too, guys.

01:06:32.000 There's really only four ways to source girls. 1.00

01:06:35.000 Cold approach, which encompasses both day and night game, right?

01:06:38.000 You got...

01:06:39.000 Social media, right?

01:06:41.000 Instagram, right?

01:06:41.000 And or TikTok or, you know, Snapchat, whatever it may be.

01:06:45.000 Then you got dating apps, right?

01:06:45.000 Twitter.

01:06:47.000 Your conventional dating apps, Tinder, Bumble, etc.

01:06:49.000 Okay.

01:06:49.000 Then you got social circle, which is how most guys meet women, is through their friends of friends and situations.

01:06:56.000 But those are really the only four ways that you're going to meet a woman that you're attracted to.

01:07:00.000 So my thing is, if you don't cold approach, you've effectively lost 25% of your potential leads.

01:07:04.000 Yeah, a big one.

01:07:05.000 And I would argue social circle... 0.99

01:07:09.000 Trash. 0.99

01:07:09.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:07:10.000 I mean, look, on the one hand, you're going to have a lot of people who said, well, I met my wife through Social Circle.

01:07:15.000 I met my girlfriend through Social Circle.

01:07:17.000 But the problem with Social Circle is you are a bit of a passive person in that scenario.

01:07:24.000 You can't really choose.

01:07:26.000 You can't really choose.

01:07:27.000 Basically, Social Circle is basically like, right, I'm with a group of male and female friends, and I'm just going to hope that that hot girl over there likes me.

01:07:33.000 Because here's the thing, right?

01:07:34.000 You can't really go up to her and rizz her up, can you?

01:07:38.000 Because you're going to look bad in front of the other people there.

01:07:40.000 If she rejects you...

01:07:42.000 If it backfires.

01:07:42.000 If it backfires, it's going to be embarrassing.

01:07:44.000 So that's going to inhibit you, right?

01:07:46.000 If you think about going up to a girl and trying to give her a bit of rizz, create a bit of chemistry or whatever, you're not going to do that with a friend of a friend.

01:07:55.000 Because if it goes wrong, it's just going to be fucking embarrassing.

01:07:57.000 If it's with some random girl... 0.97

01:07:59.000 And it'll hurt you with the other women in that social circle as well.

01:08:01.000 Exactly.

01:08:02.000 Because women are like-minded creatures. 1.00

01:08:03.000 So if you get...

01:08:04.000 You know, we're talking about a direct friend group.

01:08:06.000 Like, if it's like a friend of a friend and it's like two layers removed, that's one thing.

01:08:09.000 But if you get rejected in your friend group, like, bro, that's going to lower your status amongst all the other women. 0.96

01:08:14.000 I actually had a client recently, and he told me a story about how he actually got ousted from his friendship group because he hit on one of the girls in the friendship group.

01:08:23.000 Now, the problem is, for a guy like him, and I'm obviously not going to give any personal details or anything, but the problem with some guys is that because they're not very socially adept anyway, when they do hit on a girl in the social group, they do it in a clumsy way.

01:08:36.000 It comes across as creepy, and then the people in the social group are like, oh, that guy's a creep, and they push him out.

01:08:41.000 And that's a... 0.98

01:08:42.000 A really fucking bad situation. 0.98

01:08:44.000 You know, I'm really glad you mentioned that. 1.00

01:08:46.000 Guys, most dudes are blue pill fucking simps. 0.99

01:08:49.000 They're going to side with the girl. 1.00

01:08:50.000 Exactly.

01:08:51.000 That's the other thing too.

01:08:52.000 Let's say you get into a friend group of people, especially in college, right? 0.89

01:08:55.000 Where you really need that acceptance to get into situations because social circle is so goddamn important in college.

01:09:00.000 If you get labeled as that creep, that can absolutely tarnish your reputation at that university and impact your ability to get into parties, to get into social situations where you can meet other girls, etc.

01:09:10.000 So you have to be very cognizant of this and understand social dynamics and understand a way where if you are going to hit on a girl, you have a little bit of plausible deniability.

01:09:19.000 You're not a creep.

01:09:19.000 You're not a weirdo.

01:09:20.000 Your tonality is good.

01:09:21.000 Your confidence is good.

01:09:22.000 And you're able to kind of play it off if you do fail.

01:09:24.000 But a lot of guys aren't able to do this because it's a very nuanced skill set to do it. 0.83

01:09:29.000 And it can literally fuck you up, which is why I agree with you. 0.97

01:09:31.000 Social circle game, a lot of the times, if you don't know what you're doing, can backfire and you can get kicked out the group because a lot of guys are fucking simps or not. 1.00

01:09:38.000 They're going to side with the bitch! 1.00

01:09:40.000 This is why I like solo game, man. 0.99

01:09:41.000 But just to add to your point as well, so another factor is when you're in circles, there's an option of, for example, having that settling mentality.

01:09:50.000 You know what?

01:09:51.000 Alright, I won't go out there and get rejected by a girl.

01:09:53.000 She's here.

01:09:54.000 You know what?

01:09:55.000 Let's save this one.

01:09:55.000 Fine.

01:09:57.000 And then you settle for a woman that you probably didn't want because it's close to you.

01:10:01.000 It's comfortable.

01:10:02.000 You know what?

01:10:02.000 She's here.

01:10:03.000 Let's just do it. 0.98

01:10:04.000 Yeah, or you just outlasted in the friend zone longer than everybody else, which is also worse because she was fucking a bunch of guys in that time zone. 1.00

01:10:10.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.95

01:10:10.000 The whole time. 0.95

01:10:11.000 But isn't it fascinating how...

01:10:14.000 I mean, I guess, obviously you guys, your lifestyle now is off the scale.

01:10:18.000 And I mean, for myself as well, we're living a reality that probably most guys don't realize this stuff, do they?

01:10:24.000 Do you know what I mean?

01:10:25.000 And most guys...

01:10:26.000 You're right.

01:10:27.000 I mean, most guys in the UK, whatever, they've got their friendship group.

01:10:30.000 They've got their friendship group for university.

01:10:32.000 They're just going to end up with one of those women from that group. 1.00

01:10:34.000 And she's probably not going to be the best woman they could have got. 0.59

01:10:37.000 Is it really who they wanted to be with?

01:10:38.000 Probably not.

01:10:39.000 But they just got with her by default. 0.99

01:10:41.000 Yeah.

01:10:42.000 You know?

01:10:42.000 Yeah.

01:10:43.000 They lasted the longest...

01:10:44.000 You know, they're not getting her at her peak years.

01:10:46.000 That's another one. 0.92

01:10:46.000 That will fuck you up with social circle. 0.92

01:10:49.000 A lot of the times you're around women that are around the same age group as you.

01:10:52.000 By the time your value is higher, hers is starting to go down.

01:10:54.000 That's when she wants to settle down. 0.90

01:10:55.000 And that's the biggest con ever is like when a guy goes ahead, he's 30, she's 30.

01:10:59.000 Oh, we might as well settle down. 1.00

01:11:00.000 No, you fucking retard. 1.00

01:11:01.000 Your value is going up. 1.00

01:11:02.000 Hers is going down.

01:11:03.000 You guys are not the same.

01:11:04.000 And this just stems in from a lot of guys thinking men and women are equal.

01:11:06.000 And it's sad because you were her last option.

01:11:08.000 Facts.

01:11:08.000 At best.

01:11:10.000 Facts, man.

01:11:11.000 So social circle game.

01:11:12.000 And here's the thing.

01:11:13.000 Are there exceptions?

01:11:14.000 Absolutely.

01:11:14.000 Let's look at a guy like Dan Bilzerian.

01:11:16.000 Yo, awesome!

01:11:16.000 Knows everybody, has a bunch of girls that come in, able to throw huge parties, etc.

01:11:20.000 He has the variance.

01:11:22.000 He's the leader in that situation.

01:11:23.000 Cool.

01:11:24.000 Awesome.

01:11:25.000 But for most guys, they're not going to be in that situation.

01:11:27.000 Yeah, there is a nuance, isn't there?

01:11:28.000 Because if you look at Social Circle Games, so I think Michael Sartain teaches this.

01:11:32.000 I don't know a lot about his course, but I think he's got this course and it's sort of like, yeah, build the lifestyle, get the girls, blah, blah, blah.

01:11:38.000 Have female friends.

01:11:39.000 Absolutely.

01:11:39.000 And all of that is great, but that's a very specific kind of thing.

01:11:43.000 And to me, it seems like it will take quite a long time and you'll need to...

01:11:47.000 I don't think that'll be a walk in the park.

01:11:49.000 I'll be honest, every guy can't do that.

01:11:50.000 Exactly.

01:11:51.000 Even what I do, bro, I know most people can't do what I do.

01:11:54.000 Exactly.

01:11:54.000 That's me actually not...

01:11:55.000 I'm not considering girls as friends.

01:11:57.000 I'm considering just being social and going out there, meeting people, putting yourself in kind of like uncomfortable scenarios.

01:12:03.000 That's not easy at all, bro.

01:12:04.000 Yeah.

01:12:04.000 I mean, and here's the thing, Mark, kudos to Mike for teaching that, right?

01:12:08.000 He teaches social circle at a high level where you're actually befriending females, you're putting yourself in a situation where you're the guy that's bringing the girls, you have the social proof, etc., and it helps you get other girls, but let's be honest here.

01:12:19.000 Most guys don't have the patience, time, and or resources to deal with having 20 to 30 female friends, getting them confirmed to come to parties, adding that value in, bringing them to clubs, all this other stuff, so that you can go ahead and have that social status.

01:12:31.000 Can you do it?

01:12:32.000 Absolutely.

01:12:33.000 And, you know, you can go ahead and join this thing.

01:12:33.000 Shout out to...

01:12:35.000 It's MOA. His MOA mentoring.

01:12:38.000 But are most guys going to have the patience or endure their ability to do it?

01:12:41.000 No. 0.99

01:12:42.000 Because dealing with women is fucking annoying, especially when you're not fucking them, if I'm going to be honest. 1.00

01:12:46.000 Mike has a lot of patience with these hoes. 1.00

01:12:48.000 So cool to him, man.

01:12:49.000 He really does.

01:12:49.000 Shout out to him.

01:12:50.000 Sorry, go ahead, Troy.

01:12:50.000 But cold approach.

01:12:51.000 So an alternative or something you could do as a compliment to that is cold approach.

01:12:55.000 It's like day games, so daytime approach.

01:12:57.000 So you could see a woman walking down the street here, coming out of Starbucks, whatever. 0.99

01:13:01.000 You could walk up to her.

01:13:03.000 You could say, hey, listen...

01:13:04.000 I just saw you.

01:13:05.000 I don't normally do this, but you're looking really cute today.

01:13:07.000 I had to come over and say, hi, my name's Troy.

01:13:09.000 How about you?

01:13:10.000 She's like, oh, my name's, you know, Sara, whatever.

01:13:12.000 It's like, oh, but you don't seem like you're from Miami.

01:13:15.000 I reckon, you know, maybe you've got kind of a Latin thing going on there.

01:13:18.000 She's like, oh, yeah, actually, I'm from Colombia.

01:13:20.000 And you're like, oh, really, Colombia?

01:13:21.000 So, whereabouts in Colombia?

01:13:23.000 She says, Bogota.

01:13:24.000 Then maybe you'll tell a bit of a story. 1.00

01:13:25.000 She's like, oh, I was in Bogota last year, and I've got to say, you guys are fucking crazy. 1.00

01:13:29.000 Like, the partying over there is just mental. 0.99

01:13:31.000 Yeah.

01:13:31.000 You know, you're on the tables, you're like this, you know, you go into a little bit of vibing, okay?

01:13:38.000 And you wait for her to show some interest in you, what they call the hook point.

01:13:43.000 So she's like, oh, cool, cool.

01:13:46.000 So how long have you been in Miami for?

01:13:47.000 And then you're like, well, actually, you know, I'm here for business and blah, blah, blah.

01:13:52.000 And It's so easy to do that.

01:13:56.000 And if you just do that a couple of times a day...

01:13:59.000 And that's kind of your spin on the London day game model?

01:14:01.000 Yeah, so the London day game model is basically that.

01:14:03.000 So just to break it down, there's five sections to it, but it's...

01:14:07.000 Yeah, write this down.

01:14:07.000 Write this down, guys.

01:14:08.000 Yeah, write this shit down. 1.00

01:14:10.000 This is a sermon. 1.00

01:14:12.000 One of the best ways to go through with a cold approach.

01:14:14.000 Okay, so approach.

01:14:17.000 Okay, that's the first one.

01:14:18.000 Approach and open. 0.99

01:14:19.000 So normally we would recommend opening with a compliment because, like we said earlier, don't hide your dick. 1.00

01:14:24.000 You want to go in there. 1.00

01:14:25.000 You want to tell her what's up.

01:14:26.000 So you just go up and say, hey, listen, I saw you don't normally do this, but you look cute.

01:14:30.000 I had to come over and say hi, or you look pretty, or you look nice.

01:14:33.000 You know, it doesn't have to be, oh, you're so beautiful, but...

01:14:35.000 If you're a bit more advanced, you can go and be like, oh, you're almost as cute as me.

01:14:38.000 You guys know my pick-up line. 1.00

01:14:39.000 You can say some stupid shit like that, too. 1.00

01:14:41.000 I hate the argument when guys say, oh, bro, don't compliment her. 1.00

01:14:45.000 Bro, get out of here, bro.

01:14:46.000 You're not in the real world, bro.

01:14:47.000 You've got to do it on a small level at best.

01:14:49.000 Something small, not anything major.

01:14:51.000 Yeah.

01:14:52.000 It's a show intent.

01:14:52.000 No, it's something small.

01:14:53.000 It's a show interest and intent.

01:14:54.000 Because, yeah, this is a big thing.

01:14:57.000 There's so many nuances to this, actually.

01:14:58.000 The more we teach this, the more we realize how many nuances there is to this.

01:15:01.000 But you've got to...

01:15:03.000 She's got to know why you're there.

01:15:04.000 You know, you don't want to walk up and she's just, oh, this dude, he just wants to be friends or he's just looking for directions or something.

01:15:11.000 So you want to go up and kind of own it.

01:15:12.000 You're like, hey, listen, I came over because you're cute.

01:15:14.000 I wanted to say hi.

01:15:16.000 Then the next part is...

01:15:19.000 What they used to call stacking in the London Day Again model, which basically means making observations.

01:15:24.000 So you might say, oh, but you look Italian, or you look like you're in a hurry today.

01:15:30.000 You look like you've just robbed a bank and you're running away.

01:15:32.000 You look like you're A high-powered lawyer.

01:15:36.000 You look like you're a fashion designer.

01:15:37.000 And I remember me and you would joke about this.

01:15:39.000 We would purposely make an incorrect observation.

01:15:41.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:15:42.000 Me and Troy would add a little more spice to it and make an incorrect observation.

01:15:45.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.98

01:15:46.000 You look like you're a pig farmer from Wyoming or something. 0.96

01:15:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.96

01:15:50.000 Say some crazy shit because... 0.99

01:15:52.000 And the reason why we would do that is because it will prompt her to correct you. 1.00

01:15:55.000 Yeah.

01:15:55.000 So, like, if she's Hispanic...

01:15:57.000 And you know that she's Colombian. 1.00

01:15:59.000 Say some shit like, oh, you look like you're Venezuelan. 1.00

01:16:01.000 And she's immediately going to correct you. 1.00

01:16:03.000 You know what I would do back in my day?

01:16:06.000 Actually, I still do it now.

01:16:07.000 I'd be like, you're my kid, by the way, but you look like a lot of trouble.

01:16:10.000 I don't know.

01:16:11.000 That's a good one.

01:16:12.000 I'll leave it like that.

01:16:13.000 And she's like, wait, I'm all trouble.

01:16:14.000 What do you mean I'm trouble?

01:16:15.000 That's a good one.

01:16:16.000 Gotcha, bitch. 1.00

01:16:17.000 That's the B word. 1.00

01:16:18.000 Gotcha, bitch. 1.00

01:16:19.000 No, that's a really good one. 1.00

01:16:22.000 I'm working on my vocabulary.

01:16:24.000 So you make the observation and then you wait for her to come back with either to confirm or deny.

01:16:30.000 So she's like, yeah, actually I am Italian.

01:16:31.000 Yeah, I am Colombian, blah, blah, blah, whatever.

01:16:33.000 And then you've got a topic.

01:16:35.000 So the topic might be Colombia or it might be Medellin or it might be Italy or whatever.

01:16:39.000 Wherever she's from, right?

01:16:40.000 So yeah, in this example, wherever she's from, then you want to try and riff on that topic.

01:16:47.000 OK, so if you've been there, it helps because then you can say, oh, I was there.

01:16:52.000 We had this crazy time.

01:16:54.000 Blah, blah, blah.

01:16:54.000 This happened.

01:16:54.000 That happened.

01:16:55.000 I lost all my friends.

01:16:56.000 I woke up in the morning by the you know, it was just a mental night.

01:16:59.000 Is that what it's normally like there?

01:17:00.000 Are you guys so mad?

01:17:02.000 Something like that.

01:17:05.000 If you haven't been there, then you can go to sort of like, oh, what I think about when I think about French girls is, you know, you've probably got some onions around your neck and you've got a baguette and you've got a sort of... 0.99

01:17:15.000 Any smell.

01:17:17.000 Exactly.

01:17:18.000 You know, use some like cliches or something like that.

01:17:21.000 All you're basically doing, you want to be talking for a bit.

01:17:24.000 You want to be talking for like 30 seconds to a minute or something without her talking so that she's getting used to your presence.

01:17:30.000 And then you're waiting for her to sort of buy into the conversation, if that makes sense.

01:17:35.000 You're waiting for that hook point.

01:17:36.000 Now, when she hooks... 1.00

01:17:39.000 The most common example of a hook is she will ask you a question. 1.00

01:17:43.000 So she will say something like, oh, so where are you from?

01:17:46.000 Or how long are you here for?

01:17:48.000 Or what's your plans for the weekend?

01:17:49.000 Or whatever it is. 0.99

01:17:50.000 At that point, you can kind of think, right, well, she's sort of somewhat invested in this conversation now because she hasn't told me to fuck off, basically. 0.98

01:17:57.000 So, you know, she's kind of happy to be here having this conversation. 0.97

01:18:01.000 At that point, you can start to turn the dial down a little bit from the sort of Overly kind of flirty type stuff.

01:18:08.000 And you can be a little bit more like normal.

01:18:10.000 You can be like, no, I'm here for work.

01:18:12.000 I come here quite frequently.

01:18:13.000 I've got my places over there, blah, blah, blah.

01:18:15.000 How about you?

01:18:16.000 Oh, you're studying.

01:18:17.000 Oh, that's interesting.

01:18:18.000 Cool, cool.

01:18:19.000 Just talk normally for a little bit because you also want to ground it. 0.63

01:18:22.000 You don't want her just to think you're just this crazy player guy. 0.75

01:18:25.000 Mm-hmm. 0.91

01:18:41.000 And that's it.

01:18:42.000 You get the contact details.

01:18:43.000 The aim with the initial approach, unless you're going to go for a one-night stand or same-day lay or whatever, in most cases, the aim for that first approach conversation is just going to be to get her number, get her contact details.

01:18:53.000 Because then you're in the game.

01:18:55.000 Once she's in your phone, you're in the game.

01:18:56.000 Because then you can potentially get her out.

01:18:58.000 You can, you know, you can riz her up over text.

01:19:01.000 Yeah.

01:19:02.000 And I will say this for you guys, because some of you guys I know are like, well, wait, hold on.

01:19:05.000 What if she doesn't ask me a question?

01:19:06.000 Or if she doesn't, you know, if the hook point doesn't come in, like, I had all this great dialogue.

01:19:11.000 She doesn't say anything.

01:19:13.000 It's okay to make fun of the girl a little bit, guys.

01:19:15.000 I'll be like, what, are you socially weird or something?

01:19:15.000 I mean, I've done it before.

01:19:18.000 Like, what's wrong with you?

01:19:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:19:19.000 It's okay to, like, kind of, because you guys got to remember, like, you're coming up to her, especially if you got your shit together, you got good tonality, you got a very strong presence. 0.88

01:19:25.000 Some girls might be intimidated by that. 1.00

01:19:26.000 Most guys rarely approach girls, guys, right?

01:19:28.000 And do it in a proper manner. 1.00

01:19:30.000 A lot of guys catcall, say weird shit. 0.99

01:19:32.000 So if you come up and you make a strong masculine approach, you're not a weirdo and your tonality is good, you smell good, you look good, etc. 1.00

01:19:37.000 A lot of girls might be intimidated by that and might not know what the fuck to do. 1.00

01:19:40.000 So you can look her dead in the eye and be like, what, are you always this socially awkward? 0.99

01:19:42.000 What's wrong with you?

01:19:43.000 Where are you from?

01:19:44.000 And then have a smile on your face and then she's like, oh, I'm sorry, yeah, where are you from?

01:19:49.000 And then boom, you'll get the conversation going.

01:19:51.000 The other thing is as well that the hook point can be more nuanced than that.

01:19:54.000 It can be more subtle than that.

01:19:55.000 It's not necessarily her asking a question.

01:19:57.000 Sometimes it's just a sort of look she gives you or a smile.

01:20:00.000 The cliche I play with the hair.

01:20:02.000 But it's more likely to be like a smile.

01:20:04.000 You just get that sense.

01:20:06.000 Because often what will happen in a rejection situation, you might walk in, you might talk to the girl, and she just says, hey, you know, go and say, hey, you look cute.

01:20:13.000 She goes, oh, actually, that's really nice of you, but I've got a boyfriend.

01:20:17.000 Yeah, that's an L. Or she's like, oh, thank you. 1.00

01:20:21.000 I'm actually a bit busy right now or whatever.

01:20:23.000 And you're like, okay, fine.

01:20:24.000 Right, that's an L. But if you're having that conversation and she's just giving you something a little bit extra back, you know, a little bit more back, then you're like, okay, right.

01:20:32.000 I can feel clearly she's kind of, not say she wants to jump into bed with me, but, you know, she's got some interest in talking to me.

01:20:38.000 So that's a start.

01:20:39.000 In fact, she's still there talking to you and engaging with you on that level shows a little bit of interest.

01:20:44.000 Which is all you need.

01:20:44.000 Exactly.

01:20:45.000 Exactly.

01:20:46.000 Can you teach the guys how to transition that into an instant date if they want?

01:20:52.000 So, yeah.

01:20:53.000 I mean, all I do with that is simply at the end, instead of saying, listen, we should exchange numbers or drop your message, I'll just say, look, I've actually got 10 minutes now.

01:21:03.000 There's a cool coffee place down the road.

01:21:05.000 Why don't we just go and grab a quick coffee?

01:21:06.000 Smooth. 0.97

01:21:08.000 Now, The one thing to say about that is putting in a false time constraint, I think, or putting in a time constraint is important because you don't want her to think, oh shit, I'm stuck with this guy now for the rest of the day.

01:21:20.000 Can you tell the people what FTC or false time constraint is?

01:21:24.000 Yeah, so I would just say to her, listen, I've got a meeting in 15 minutes, but why don't we go grab a coffee now?

01:21:29.000 So you're putting an end barrier on it, rather than her thinking, oh shit, if I go with this guy now, it's going to be this, like, you know, because she's probably busy, she's got stuff to do, you've got stuff to do, whatever.

01:21:41.000 So you want to put that end barrier on it.

01:21:43.000 Yeah.

01:21:43.000 And I think the other reason, too, that guy's got to understand, again, putting yourself in the shoes of a woman, guys.

01:21:47.000 You've got to remember that women, a lot of times, they'll get approached by random guys, and that guy will fucking sit there and lurk. 0.73

01:21:53.000 You just sit there and talk to her forever. 0.98

01:21:55.000 You just sit there and lurk, etc.

01:21:56.000 Won't leave them alone.

01:21:57.000 You see this a lot in that night game, too, with the bars?

01:21:59.000 Like, a guy will buy a girl a drink, and he's invested. 0.99

01:22:01.000 He's like, okay, I'm not leaving this bitch. 1.00

01:22:02.000 I'm going to stay with her the whole time. 1.00

01:22:04.000 You don't want to fucking be that guy. 0.98

01:22:05.000 So when you go up to a girl, I like to do a false time constraint from the beginning. 0.99

01:22:09.000 Hey, I can't stay long, but I had to fucking come over here and just tell you that I'm way harder than you. 0.91

01:22:13.000 What's your name? 0.99

01:22:14.000 Some shit like that. 1.00

01:22:14.000 And then bam, right? 1.00

01:22:15.000 Some bullshit. 1.00

01:22:16.000 You don't have to say that, but you can give a compliment, whatever. 0.99

01:22:18.000 And the point is, is you want to let her know this interaction is limited.

01:22:21.000 You want to start that scarcity.

01:22:22.000 And I would take it a step further.

01:22:23.000 A lot of times when I go up to the girl, my feet aren't pointed towards her.

01:22:26.000 My feet are actually pointed away from her.

01:22:28.000 And I learned this from Mystery.

01:22:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:22:30.000 And again, so this is where all the nuances come into it. 0.68

01:22:33.000 And this is why it's really fucking, you know, we could be here all night talking about stuff, really. 0.87

01:22:36.000 But it's sort of like, you've got to show intent. 0.95

01:22:40.000 You've got to show that you like her to some extent.

01:22:42.000 So you're going up to her and say, hey, listen, you look cute, or you look nice.

01:22:46.000 But it doesn't mean that you've fallen madly in love with her, right?

01:22:49.000 And you've got to have that sense of you could walk away at any moment.

01:22:53.000 The mindset that I tell guys to have is you're going in there.

01:22:56.000 So yeah, you're hot, you know, whatever.

01:22:58.000 But what else is good about you?

01:23:00.000 And that's what Mystery said, wasn't it?

01:23:01.000 You know, it's like, yeah, you're beautiful, but beauty is common.

01:23:04.000 There's a million beautiful girls in Miami.

01:23:06.000 So what else is good about you?

01:23:07.000 I think just add to the point as well, you can also have...

01:23:10.000 You can say almost anything.

01:23:12.000 It's just how you say it and the confidence behind it.

01:23:14.000 Exactly.

01:23:15.000 You can say, for example, I can say, your tactic, oh, I'm hotter than you.

01:23:18.000 But if that's not who I am, I'm not saying you genuinely. 1.00

01:23:20.000 Yeah, don't do that shit. 1.00

01:23:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:23:22.000 Versus, you know what?

01:23:23.000 I'm comfortable saying, hey, you know what? 0.95

01:23:25.000 I think you're cute, but, you know, your shoe's ugly. 0.86

01:23:30.000 The point is, you can say whatever you want.

01:23:32.000 Find something that you're good with, that you can own, and just do that.

01:23:36.000 I'm just fucking around, giving you guys different examples, but the point is that the false time constraint, I think, is really important, and I'm really glad that you mentioned that, because a lot of y'all will come in and create this aura, like, you're just going to hang out with it the whole time. 0.99

01:23:46.000 You can't do that shit. 0.94

01:23:47.000 There's value in scarcity, and you have to create that scarcity immediately. 1.00

01:23:51.000 Yo, night game, bro, those guys that sit around the girls and follow them around the club, that's just hilarious.

01:23:55.000 Oh, my God.

01:23:56.000 Obviously, she doesn't want to be with you, bro. 0.97

01:23:58.000 You just follow her on the club.

01:23:59.000 It's hilarious, bro.

01:24:00.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:24:01.000 But, well, night game's another problem, though, isn't it?

01:24:04.000 Because, I mean, you're probably doing it differently now.

01:24:06.000 But if you go to the club and you meet a girl mid-evening, early evening in the club, and you've got a bit of rapport with her, what do you do then?

01:24:15.000 Because say you meet her and it's like 11 o'clock, but the club doesn't close until, I don't know what time places close, but say 2 or 3 or whatever.

01:24:21.000 What are you going to do?

01:24:21.000 Yeah.

01:24:22.000 Like, you meet her at 11 or 12, but the club's still open for another two hours. 0.95

01:24:26.000 You're going to have to stand next to her like a fucking, you know, mate guarding her for like two hours. 0.93

01:24:30.000 Like, you know, any other guy comes near her like, no, she's my girl. 0.99

01:24:34.000 So you've got to be that guy.

01:24:35.000 Night game is also, it's a whole nuance of its own, but you've got to be a bit...

01:24:39.000 So RSD Tyler used to say, basically, don't try and pull in night game until...

01:24:46.000 About the last hour, really, before the place is going to close.

01:24:48.000 If you're looking to extract that.

01:24:51.000 I know guys that go to the club in the last 30 minutes.

01:24:54.000 They pop in the last 30 minutes.

01:24:56.000 It's about to close.

01:24:58.000 See who's still around.

01:24:59.000 Clean up crew.

01:25:00.000 I want her, her, her.

01:25:01.000 And then just dip.

01:25:02.000 Exactly.

01:25:03.000 That's it.

01:25:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:25:04.000 That's all they do.

01:25:04.000 Yeah.

01:25:05.000 Put the club and buy drinks and buy bottles. 0.99

01:25:06.000 I ain't doing that bad shit. 1.00

01:25:07.000 Let some other idiot do that. 1.00

01:25:07.000 Come in, clean up, crew? 1.00

01:25:07.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:25:08.000 You want to take it a step further?

01:25:09.000 I remember they used to talk about, Tom Turry used to talk about, like, gutter game.

01:25:13.000 Yes.

01:25:13.000 He'd be outside the clubs.

01:25:14.000 Yeah.

01:25:14.000 Waiting until let out.

01:25:16.000 And then he'd just, like, talk to girls outside. 1.00

01:25:18.000 Because at that point, it's like, all the other idiots wasted all their time and money on these hoes. 1.00

01:25:22.000 And he's just, like, gaming the girls outside. 1.00

01:25:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:25:24.000 One of my favourite things for game, actually, is the sort of in-between, like Gutter Game, the sort of in-between where, like, say early to mid-evening, if you go to a bar area and there's people standing around outside the bar in the street, and you don't have to go into the bars...

01:25:41.000 So it's sort of day game, but it's sort of like night game as well because people are in that more social mood.

01:25:46.000 They may be having a few drinks and stuff like that.

01:25:47.000 You can talk to people.

01:25:48.000 That kind of vibe, I think, is really, really good.

01:25:50.000 You know?

01:25:51.000 It's a fusion of both.

01:25:52.000 Actually, it's funny.

01:25:53.000 In Miami, it happens all the time.

01:25:55.000 Guys will spend thousands of dollars on tables and bottles.

01:25:58.000 Rizz her up. 1.00

01:25:59.000 You know, yeah, girl, you know, I'm going to take care of blah, blah, blah.

01:26:01.000 And girls are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. 1.00

01:26:03.000 Just drink all the drinks.

01:26:04.000 Leave it aside.

01:26:05.000 Homeboys waiting for them outside, just chilling.

01:26:06.000 Yeah.

01:26:07.000 So you're right.

01:26:07.000 Yeah, man.

01:26:08.000 So it's wild.

01:26:09.000 But yeah, I think the false time constraint is like a fantastic technique.

01:26:14.000 And then sorry, so with instant date.

01:26:16.000 So A, I got 20 minutes, whatever.

01:26:18.000 There's a coffee street down the street.

01:26:19.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:26:19.000 My bad.

01:26:20.000 So the other thing with instant dates is that, so here's the theory, right?

01:26:24.000 The idea is you meet a girl in the street in the daytime.

01:26:27.000 The longer you spend with her, theoretically, it's going to strengthen that interaction.

01:26:32.000 Because, you know, you were strangers, and then if you've met her, you talk to her for, say, five, ten minutes, and then you guys go for a coffee.

01:26:39.000 Theoretically, that makes it stronger, right?

01:26:41.000 So when you message her, she's more likely to respond.

01:26:43.000 However, the problem is, guys can fuck it up because they can friendzone themselves. 1.00

01:26:48.000 Because if you go for that coffee, and then you're sitting there and you're a boring chump, then she's going to be like, oh, fuck. 1.00

01:26:55.000 Do you remember Paul Janka? 1.00

01:26:57.000 You know Paul Junker, the good-looking American dude?

01:26:59.000 He used to do gaming in New York City.

01:27:01.000 Harvard Graduate.

01:27:02.000 Exactly.

01:27:03.000 So his whole thing was get in, talk to her, get the phone number, get out quickly.

01:27:07.000 So you leave the mystery.

01:27:09.000 Because he preferred to do more approaches versus taking girls out on InstaDates.

01:27:13.000 And, you know, there's a million ways to skin a cat, right?

01:27:15.000 And that's why I really like these legendary cold approach guys.

01:27:20.000 But, yeah, InstaDate is good.

01:27:21.000 You could get a number.

01:27:22.000 I mean...

01:27:24.000 You know, a number of clothes used to be something like 20 years ago. 0.98

01:27:26.000 Nowadays, it's fucking nothing. 0.98

01:27:27.000 I think you need to get an Instagram and a number of clothes, but don't give your Instagram if it's trash. 0.99

01:27:31.000 I hate that we have to tell people this. 0.98

01:27:33.000 Guys, don't give your Instagram if it's trash. 0.97

01:27:35.000 It will only hurt you. 0.69

01:27:37.000 Just so you don't got one. 1.00

01:27:38.000 Yeah, just so you don't got one if your shit is garbage. 1.00

01:27:39.000 You got weird pictures of yourself, weird selfies, etc. 1.00

01:27:42.000 Even if you're a good-looking guy in person, if your Instagram is garbage, she will absolutely judge you off your IG, bro. 0.98

01:27:47.000 I hate to say it, guys. 0.93

01:27:48.000 2023, women take Instagram seriously. 0.97

01:27:50.000 It's like your new report card.

01:27:52.000 How you look on Instagram is how you look in person.

01:27:52.000 Yeah, bro.

01:27:53.000 Or she'll show her friends as well.

01:27:55.000 Yes!

01:27:56.000 Look at his name.

01:27:58.000 Oh, look at this guy I met.

01:28:00.000 And then, bam, if her friends don't approve, bro, it's a wrap, man.

01:28:04.000 I have a question for you, Troy.

01:28:05.000 What are the best spots that you call approach in, you think, or cities, you think, to get the maximum results?

01:28:11.000 The best places within cities or the country?

01:28:14.000 Cities and then within cities.

01:28:16.000 Well, I mean, so my favorite places, we've mentioned some of them already.

01:28:20.000 I mean, I think Warsaw in Poland is really good.

01:28:23.000 Can't wait to go.

01:28:23.000 Absolutely, man.

01:28:24.000 Absolutely.

01:28:27.000 Ukraine was great, obviously, prior to the war.

01:28:30.000 Russia was great prior to the war.

01:28:31.000 Unfortunately, this situation's cut off a lot.

01:28:34.000 Where else in Europe?

01:28:39.000 Romania's okay.

01:28:41.000 Barcelona is pretty good in Europe.

01:28:43.000 Spain?

01:28:44.000 Yep.

01:28:44.000 And then when you leave there, getting over to Latin America, I think Latin America is very, very good.

01:28:49.000 Yeah, really.

01:28:51.000 Again, you know, more feminine women, they tend to be a bit more amenable to, you know, to guys, a little bit more sort of, there's just a more sexual kind of vibe as well. 1.00

01:28:59.000 You know, that Latin kind of vibe is just a bit more accepting of sort of, like, England's, you've got this caricature, haven't you, of these stiff upper lip, like English people, and it's kind of true in a way, you know. 1.00

01:29:09.000 London does not have that many hot girls, man. 0.80

01:29:11.000 I was disappointed.

01:29:12.000 Yeah, I know, man.

01:29:13.000 I'm sorry. 0.99

01:29:13.000 Yeah, like London was actually, I was like, what the fuck? 0.99

01:29:16.000 Where's all the hot girls? 1.00

01:29:17.000 It's a strange mixture there because you have got, obviously, you've got some real hotties there, but it's a little bit diluted because, you know, just the, I don't know, population size, man.

01:29:27.000 It's funny.

01:29:27.000 I see all the baddies over here in Miami, but not want to go to London.

01:29:30.000 Yeah, bro.

01:29:31.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:29:32.000 I was actually really disappointed how there was like no hot girls in England. 0.98

01:29:35.000 A lot of fat women, too. 1.00

01:29:37.000 It's kind of like here.

01:29:37.000 How do you say in England, where's the paintings?

01:29:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:29:40.000 Paintings.

01:29:41.000 Paintings, yeah.

01:29:43.000 Also, Miami too, man.

01:29:47.000 I think here in Miami, South Beach, Wynwood, those have a high population of girls. 1.00

01:29:52.000 Constantly tourists as well.

01:29:53.000 New York City.

01:29:55.000 New York City's alright.

01:29:56.000 Yeah, to a degree, yeah.

01:29:57.000 The only thing I don't like about New York City is New York City's very pay-to-play.

01:30:00.000 And what I mean by pay-to-play is in, like, all the best-looking girls are at the top clubs. 1.00

01:30:05.000 So, like, It's tough unless you're going to do day game.

01:30:08.000 I think New York City is better for day game. 0.97

01:30:10.000 If you're going to run night game in New York City, if you want to be around attractive women, you've got to go to fucking One Oak or Mr. 0.99

01:30:15.000 Purple or these expensive-ass places where you've got to get a table. 0.98

01:30:17.000 Unless you get there early, Yeah, sorry.

01:30:20.000 So here's the thing, the other thing about day game, right?

01:30:22.000 So back in the day, this is like the Tom Torero time.

01:30:25.000 Yeah.

01:30:26.000 Whenever that was, like 2012, that sort of time.

01:30:29.000 And real quick, guys, please follow the channel if you haven't already.

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01:30:38.000 We'll follow the channel.

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01:30:41.000 500k.

01:30:42.000 Half a mil, right?

01:30:43.000 Sorry, Tom Torero 10 years ago.

01:30:44.000 Yeah, so the idea was that day game, approaching women in the daytime, was a bit of a hack because you didn't have to go to the club. 0.99

01:30:51.000 You didn't have to buy the bottles.

01:30:53.000 You didn't have to spend all this money.

01:30:55.000 And also you weren't on the dating app.

01:30:56.000 So it was a little bit of a hack because theoretically you could meet that girl.

01:30:59.000 She's a top model. 0.99

01:31:01.000 She's an actress, whatever. 0.99

01:31:02.000 And she's just walking down the street.

01:31:03.000 She's walking to Whole Foods or whatever, right?

01:31:05.000 Theoretically, you could get access to that woman. 0.95

01:31:07.000 That if you approach her in the club, maybe you wouldn't even...

01:31:10.000 Unless you're in the VIP, maybe you can't even get access to her anyway.

01:31:13.000 In theory.

01:31:14.000 However, the reality of the world as we now live in, I think that's become more difficult.

01:31:18.000 It's not to say that...

01:31:19.000 You could walk down the street, you could meet this girl who's a top model, but... 1.00

01:31:23.000 Is she going to want to fuck with you if you don't have that high-value essence, right? 1.00

01:31:29.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

01:31:30.000 So it's a bit of an illusion now to think that you can just meet some super amazing girl.

01:31:35.000 Just because you met her through day games, she's going to just randomly start dating you. 1.00

01:31:39.000 Because there's going to be dudes hitting her up in her IG and all the rest of it. 1.00

01:31:43.000 There's always still that competition, but like Fresh said before, the impact that you can make on somebody by doing a cold approach is so much greater than if you just slid into her DM. 100%.

01:31:53.000 Yeah, and I really like that you mentioned that day game was kind of a way around the night game, etc.

01:31:59.000 And Roosh talked about this in his book.

01:32:01.000 He said that the death of night game actually was table service and club bottle service.

01:32:05.000 I think that's true.

01:32:06.000 I think that's true.

01:32:08.000 And actually, just on a...

01:32:10.000 I think the whole sort of bottle service, VIP kind of thing in clubs has kind of fucked clubs up quite a lot anyway, really.

01:32:18.000 I think it's okay.

01:32:19.000 It's kind of nice.

01:32:20.000 But the best club we went to, actually, the best club I've been to in the last year or so, was in Colombia.

01:32:27.000 And it was in Bogota.

01:32:28.000 And we went to this crazy, massive, massive, crazy party in Bogota.

01:32:34.000 No VIP. Or if there was, it would have been very small.

01:32:37.000 No VIP. Everyone was just there.

01:32:37.000 We didn't see anything.

01:32:39.000 Everyone partying.

01:32:40.000 Amazing Latin American vibe.

01:32:42.000 Just the girls. 0.99

01:32:43.000 Fucking great. 0.98

01:32:44.000 You could go around and talk to everybody. 0.97

01:32:45.000 It was brilliant.

01:32:47.000 That kind of club is great for night game. 0.99

01:32:49.000 A lot of the sort of clubs that we have now here or in London or New York It's just a pain in the arse. 0.98

01:32:56.000 You've got to drop 10k for what? 0.93

01:32:58.000 And this is coming from a guy that really enjoyed Night Game back in the day.

01:33:06.000 It's just a very low return on investment, if I'm going to be honest with y'all.

01:33:10.000 It costs you money to get in there.

01:33:12.000 If you're buying drinks, it's going to be expensive.

01:33:14.000 You're going to have to talk to a lot of girls, right? 1.00

01:33:17.000 Half the game, especially a night game, is getting rid of the time wasters or girls that are just trying to get free drinks from you. 1.00

01:33:22.000 If you don't have a table, it's going to be harder.

01:33:24.000 You could fight the game.

01:33:25.000 You could play the game or whatever.

01:33:26.000 I used to say I'd go one for $40, one for $50.

01:33:28.000 The reason why I was like...

01:33:32.000 I would talk to so many girls. 0.99

01:33:33.000 It's because if a girl didn't show me instant interest, I'd fucking... 1.00

01:33:36.000 Like, within 10 seconds. 0.94

01:33:37.000 I would be like, hey, if she didn't make direct eye contact or when I went to shake her hand, she didn't hold onto my hand, I'd immediately be like...

01:33:44.000 I'd just literally turn my back on her.

01:33:45.000 I was ruthless.

01:33:46.000 Because I was like, I'm not going to sit here and let chicks waste my time. 1.00

01:33:49.000 Because they absolutely will waste your time, like I told you all before.

01:33:51.000 There's one way around this.

01:33:52.000 Instead of going to a club or maybe a top area, you can go to a lounge.

01:33:56.000 A lounge has the access of...

01:33:58.000 A big space, no tables, no friggin' bottle service, but it's a chill environment.

01:34:04.000 Everyone's there chilling, getting drinks.

01:34:06.000 That kind of is a segue between going to a club or, for example, going to a big...

01:34:10.000 But yeah, table service absolutely did kill night game to a significant degree because what it did was it automatically started putting hierarchies in the nightclub, and when you put hierarchies, women are slaves to hierarchy, so therefore they're going to go ahead... 1.00

01:34:23.000 Even if they don't like the guys, they're going to go sit in the section because it makes them feel better.

01:34:26.000 And I've realized this too, and I want the audience to really kind of get this.

01:34:30.000 Women live life to flex on each other. 1.00

01:34:32.000 I'm going to say that one more time for y'all.

01:34:34.000 Like, really take this into your brain.

01:34:36.000 Women live life to flex on each other, okay? 1.00

01:34:39.000 There's a reason why women put such stake in their Instagram. 1.00

01:34:41.000 They edit the fuck out their pictures, etc. 0.99

01:34:43.000 They live life to be like, I'm prettier than you. 0.99

01:34:46.000 Look at my experiences.

01:34:46.000 I have this.

01:34:47.000 I'm doing that.

01:34:48.000 Blah, blah, blah. 1.00

01:34:49.000 Girls are so dumb that they will go ahead and prioritize flexing on other bitches at the cost of lowering their own sexual market value to do so. 1.00

01:34:57.000 What do I mean by this? 1.00

01:34:58.000 A girl will sit there and post herself on a private jet. 1.00

01:35:00.000 A girl will sit there and post herself in a Lamborghini or in Dubai, etc. 0.82

01:35:04.000 No way deep down in the back of her mind. 1.00

01:35:05.000 No one is going to respect her as a male thinking like, bitches don't pay for this, niggas pay for this, you're a whore. 1.00

01:35:10.000 But it's worth it to flex on other bitches. 1.00

01:35:14.000 That's what women do. 1.00

01:35:15.000 They live to flex on other whores, even if it hurts their own sexual market value. 1.00

01:35:18.000 So now that you understand this, know that women are slaves to hierarchy, and this is why Night Game died a lot of times, because once you have table service, you have clubs, etc., the girls want to sit at the fucking table because of the status, even if they don't like the motherfuckers in there. 1.00

01:35:33.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

01:35:34.000 Nowadays, if I go to a club, it has to be at a table. 1.00

01:35:37.000 I don't think men understand this shit. 0.99

01:35:38.000 The need to flex for women is so important and the need for status is so important to women. 1.00

01:35:43.000 Of course, not their own. 0.98

01:35:44.000 Women don't make their own status because no one gives a fuck about their status. 1.00

01:35:47.000 They gain their status through other men, but they inadvertently get it through experiences, taking pictures, being in certain locations, etc. 1.00

01:35:53.000 Because we all know bitches don't pay for none of this shit. 1.00

01:35:55.000 They don't pay for nothing luxurious. 1.00

01:35:56.000 It's always a nigga that pays for it. 1.00

01:35:58.000 But the fact that they're able to be in these situations is validation.

01:36:01.000 And that's what girls live for. 1.00

01:36:02.000 To flex on other bitches. 1.00

01:36:04.000 But hold on. 0.99

01:36:05.000 If you can understand this concept, use it to your advantage.

01:36:08.000 And I won't say any more than that.

01:36:14.000 Cryptic.

01:36:14.000 But yeah, no, absolutely.

01:36:15.000 Well, no, I mean, all of this stuff, because people complain about the dating market.

01:36:18.000 They complain about like, oh, women are like this. 1.00

01:36:20.000 And this is, it's tough.

01:36:21.000 And it is.

01:36:22.000 And I mean, there is a lot to complain about.

01:36:23.000 But on the other hand, it's also in many ways the best time to be a single guy.

01:36:27.000 Hell yeah.

01:36:28.000 You know, I mean, 2023 is the best time in the history of the world to be a single dude.

01:36:32.000 Yeah, it is.

01:36:34.000 Because you live in a...

01:36:35.000 Yes.

01:36:58.000 And guess what?

01:36:59.000 Like I said before, women care about hierarchy a lot. 1.00

01:37:02.000 And they'll even lower their own value to do it. 0.98

01:37:04.000 So what that means for you is, as a guy, if you got your shit together, you can go ahead and have your picket litter, especially if you're RPO, wear your well-dressed, you got your money on point, etc. 0.95

01:37:12.000 But women shoot themselves in the foot and inadvertently put the men at the top You know the best, I want to say, night game profession I've seen here in Miami is promoters. 1.00

01:37:24.000 They have the access of a guy with money, tables like a guy with money, and as well the option all day to go around and talk to girls.

01:37:33.000 Hey, come to the club with me.

01:37:34.000 Come to this spot.

01:37:35.000 I got you.

01:37:35.000 Free drinks, whatever.

01:37:36.000 They just pull up.

01:37:37.000 So they're at a club by themselves.

01:37:39.000 One guy, a bunch of girls at one table.

01:37:41.000 What does that mean?

01:37:42.000 More girls. 0.98

01:37:43.000 Yeah.

01:37:43.000 And you get paid to be there.

01:37:44.000 So I think that's the best scenario.

01:37:47.000 In London back in the day, people actually did that as a strategy.

01:37:50.000 So there was a bunch of guys, including actually Adam Lyons, who was on that podcast with Zerka recently, who's an old London dating coach.

01:37:57.000 They would actually do, they called it this thing, entourage game.

01:38:00.000 And it would basically be being a club promoter, really.

01:38:03.000 So they would say to the club, right, we're going to bring so many girls down. 1.00

01:38:06.000 It's one of the easiest ways to do it.

01:38:07.000 And I gave it a go.

01:38:09.000 I mean, I did it a couple of times.

01:38:10.000 The only thing for me was, again, it seemed like a lot of work.

01:38:13.000 It's a lot of work.

01:38:14.000 Because it was like, the guy's like, it's a sales job.

01:38:17.000 You know, the guy's like, oh, right.

01:38:19.000 It's almost a middle between what Marco Sartain teaches.

01:38:21.000 Yes.

01:38:22.000 It's almost a middle ground.

01:38:23.000 Because he's saying, be friends with these girls.

01:38:25.000 But you kind of have to do that as a promoter as well, to a degree.

01:38:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:38:28.000 It's...

01:38:30.000 It's definitely a route, but if you're doing it as your job and you're getting some decent money for it, then fine.

01:38:34.000 But I think the way these guys were trying to do it, it was a lot of work.

01:38:38.000 And I was thinking, well, I could just go and cold approach these girls anyway and just cut out the whole club thing. 1.00

01:38:43.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:38:44.000 And if you don't like to drink and everything else like that, it kind of sucks. 0.98

01:38:47.000 And then, yeah, you're dealing with drunk, annoying girls like that. 1.00

01:38:50.000 All their problems in the club are now become your problems because you're responsible for them.

01:38:53.000 So...

01:38:54.000 It really comes down to what you're...

01:38:56.000 But it's a great way for a guy that's younger that doesn't have money or status like that.

01:38:59.000 It's a great way to go ahead and get laid. 1.00

01:39:01.000 We know a couple guys here in Miami that literally do that shit. 1.00

01:39:04.000 But here's the thing that sucks. 1.00

01:39:12.000 Yeah. 0.95

01:39:13.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:39:28.000 For real, not in a fucking club where they're drunk and they're relying on you to get to a place. 1.00

01:39:32.000 You're going to see that, oh fuck, I don't really know what the fuck I'm doing. 1.00

01:39:34.000 Can I tell us a little quick story related to that? 0.99

01:39:38.000 So I used to work in bars.

01:39:40.000 I used to work in some bars and nightclubs.

01:39:42.000 Quite cool places back in the day.

01:39:44.000 And this isn't as cool as...

01:39:57.000 I think?

01:40:14.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:40:25.000 We're like, fuck, I've got no status. 0.99

01:40:27.000 What the hell do I do now? 0.99

01:40:28.000 And that was the point.

01:40:30.000 That was when I started to learn game.

01:40:33.000 That was when the book, the game, around that time, the book, the game came out and then all this other stuff and internet forums and things.

01:40:39.000 Because I had to solve that problem.

01:40:41.000 Yeah.

01:40:42.000 If I'm a guy and I'm just a regular guy amongst other guys, how do I stand in front of this woman that I'm attracted to and show her that I have status without doing it in a try-hard way?

01:40:54.000 And that, to me, I think is the essence of game, really.

01:40:56.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:40:57.000 I'm really glad that you told that story because a lot of guys are really...

01:41:01.000 Number one, they're outcome dependent, which means they really care about what the girl thinks.

01:41:04.000 And then number two, they're very reliant on, like, one source of game.

01:41:08.000 Like, you know, some guys, you know, only use Instagram and they don't know how to call approach or do anything else.

01:41:14.000 Or some guys only use money.

01:41:16.000 Or some guys only use charm and charisma but don't have anything else.

01:41:20.000 Or some guys only use looks.

01:41:21.000 I think you want to have the entire repertoire so that you can go ahead and be attractive to a wider demographic of women.

01:41:27.000 The more tools you have in your tool belt, the better.

01:41:29.000 The better off you are.

01:41:30.000 That's why I tell y'all.

01:41:31.000 Get in shape.

01:41:31.000 Get in the gym.

01:41:32.000 Get your money on point.

01:41:33.000 Understand game.

01:41:34.000 Because if you're lacking in one thing, what ends up happening is women are going to exploit that weak point. 1.00

01:41:40.000 What do I always use?

01:41:41.000 Okay, I have money.

01:41:42.000 But you have no game or frame?

01:41:42.000 Fantastic.

01:41:43.000 Girls are going to come in and fucking use the shit out of you and fuck other guys while you're simultaneously giving them money. 1.00

01:41:49.000 There's a bunch of guys that fresh knows that are simps like that. 1.00

01:41:52.000 That literally, they have money, fresh networks with them.

01:41:54.000 He knows, etc. 1.00

01:41:55.000 But their girls run their fucking life, bro. 1.00

01:41:57.000 It's scary. 1.00

01:41:58.000 Yeah.

01:41:58.000 But just to add to your point as well.

01:42:00.000 And you don't say shit. 0.98

01:42:01.000 You're just like, man, I don't move. 0.99

01:42:02.000 Bro, once I get what I want for free, I'm happy, bro.

01:42:06.000 Imagine you're at a function or a private event, right?

01:42:09.000 You only do Instagram game.

01:42:11.000 You see some baddies over there.

01:42:13.000 You're in the best possible environment to talk to her.

01:42:17.000 Because of the status thing, where you're at.

01:42:19.000 But you don't want a cold approach. 0.95

01:42:20.000 So now, you're like, damn, what's your Instagram? 0.97

01:42:23.000 Too late. 0.99

01:42:23.000 Let me DM her. 0.99

01:42:24.000 She's here in person, but you can't do it.

01:42:26.000 So you kind of put yourself in a box.

01:42:28.000 Versus Let's say you're out in public and you can do a call approach, you can do Instagram, you can do all these things in one, then it doesn't matter because you have a tool belt with all these tools you can use. 0.89

01:42:39.000 If there's one tool you have, it kind of sucks.

01:42:41.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.85

01:42:42.000 And there was another aspect to that because when I used to go to nightclubs, I was doing all night game when I was younger, like nightclubs, bars, whatever.

01:42:50.000 Right.

01:43:10.000 Do you know what I mean?

01:43:10.000 And I think, particularly in 2023, we're in a very competitive dating marketplace.

01:43:14.000 Obviously, it's only getting harder.

01:43:16.000 You want to keep the top of the funnel as wide as possible.

01:43:19.000 You want to bring as many prospects into the top of the funnel as you can through whatever means necessary, whether that's through night game, whether it's through day game, whether it's through the apps, etc.

01:43:28.000 Yeah, and when you're in abundance, you're not scared of rejection as much as you would be if you had no girls.

01:43:28.000 You know?

01:43:33.000 So that goes a long way.

01:43:34.000 Exactly.

01:43:35.000 Exactly.

01:43:37.000 There's just so many different aspects to all of this, though, because you've got to, like, cold approach.

01:43:44.000 It's about communicating value.

01:43:45.000 And there's a story with Tristan Tate that he actually told again on Twitter quite recently.

01:43:49.000 I was with Tristan Tate one time in the cigar lounge in London a couple of years back, and he was talking to the waitress, attractive, like, young, you know, Polish woman, whatever, and He was like kind of just big, charming,

01:44:05.000 charismatic, whatever.

01:44:05.000 And then he got her phone number.

01:44:07.000 And the point of the story is that he didn't say, oh, I'm Tristan Tate, and oh, look at my cars, and oh, look at my Instagram, you know, look at my blue checkmark or any of that shit. 0.89

01:44:17.000 She didn't know who he was. 0.63

01:44:19.000 But this is what you have to do with game.

01:44:22.000 You have to emanate value without having to explicitly say it.

01:44:27.000 Yes.

01:44:28.000 You know what I mean?

01:44:31.000 Discovery trumps disclosure.

01:44:32.000 Disclosure, yeah. 1.00

01:44:33.000 And it's way more potent if she goes ahead and researches him like, oh shit! 1.00

01:44:38.000 I met this guy. 1.00

01:44:39.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:44:40.000 And then she's going to go ahead and show it to her friends like, look at this guy I met!

01:44:43.000 And then he didn't mention anything about his cars or whatever.

01:44:46.000 That always goes a lot further.

01:44:47.000 You know what I love the most?

01:44:48.000 Talking to a girl for like 20-30 minutes?

01:44:51.000 Listen, I gotta run.

01:44:52.000 Here's my Instagram.

01:44:53.000 Gone.

01:44:54.000 Job is complete, bro.

01:44:56.000 And then she's like, whoa, fresh and fit podcast.

01:44:58.000 Well, that part isn't good, but the rest of it is just okay.

01:45:01.000 Okay, let's get started on the show.

01:45:04.000 Welcome to the show. 1.00

01:45:06.000 She's like, what the fuck? 1.00

01:45:07.000 Oh, God. 1.00

01:45:10.000 Is that really you?

01:45:12.000 Is that really you?

01:45:12.000 I'm talking in person.

01:45:13.000 Is that you on TikTok?

01:45:17.000 Yo! 1.00

01:45:19.000 Alright.

01:45:20.000 What are some of these rants real quick, man?

01:45:22.000 Shout out to y'all, man.

01:45:23.000 We'll close this thing up.

01:45:24.000 Don't worry, guys.

01:45:25.000 Troy's going to stay for the after-hour show with the lovely ladies.

01:45:29.000 It's always good to have the homies and the OGs. 0.99

01:45:34.000 When's the next DMs on the mat coming?

01:45:35.000 I could use a handle on my socials.

01:45:37.000 We should drop it again, man.

01:45:38.000 People have been asking.

01:45:40.000 My DMs a lot.

01:45:41.000 Alright, we'll drop it again for y'all.

01:45:44.000 Maybe in a week or two?

01:45:46.000 Yeah.

01:45:48.000 Look, it's DCP. Myron, what's the best scale to use to weigh yourself?

01:45:55.000 It doesn't matter, bro.

01:45:56.000 Just get a scale and use that scale consistently and then track the trends.

01:45:59.000 Every scale is going to be off to some degree.

01:46:01.000 Just use the same scale all the time so you can track progress.

01:46:03.000 It's not about being accurate.

01:46:04.000 It's about being accurate with the progress.

01:46:06.000 How frequently would you weigh yourself?

01:46:08.000 I used to weigh myself once a week.

01:46:10.000 Same day, same time.

01:46:11.000 I would always weigh myself every Sunday.

01:46:14.000 After I woke up and took a dump.

01:46:16.000 And then I did that religiously for seven months.

01:46:18.000 And that's how I tracked my weight.

01:46:19.000 Because I had a trainer who was telling me to do it daily.

01:46:21.000 But I think that's not a good idea.

01:46:23.000 You could do it daily and then take the average.

01:46:24.000 There's two ways to do it.

01:46:25.000 You can take it daily and then take the average of the seven days.

01:46:28.000 Or you could do it one time per week and weigh in on that day.

01:46:30.000 Either or is good.

01:46:32.000 But the thing is that you want to make sure...

01:46:34.000 Whatever you pick, my thing is...

01:46:36.000 What matters is consistency and making sure you use the same tool every single time because every scale is going to be off.

01:46:41.000 You just want to make sure you use the same scale every time and track the trends.

01:46:46.000 We got here, and Mo, speaking of which, what's your current weight at right now, bro, for the people? 0.87

01:46:51.000 Because we've been doing the same shit over and over with Mo, and that's how he's been able to lose weight consistently. 0.73

01:46:57.000 I'm at 393. 0.94

01:47:00.000 That is, yeah, yes, 393.

01:47:02.000 So that's 107 pounds down.

01:47:05.000 Nice.

01:47:05.000 And it's been how many weeks of training now at this point?

01:47:09.000 A little over a year?

01:47:10.000 Yeah, a little over a year.

01:47:12.000 So you've been losing about two pounds a week?

01:47:14.000 Yes.

01:47:15.000 Nice.

01:47:16.000 And guys, we're doing that on purpose because when you lose weight nice and slow, you maintain it, less loose skin, and yeah, and the pant size has been dropping.

01:47:23.000 More importantly, how many inches off your waist have you lost?

01:47:25.000 That is my other thing.

01:47:26.000 I do actually have these new pants.

01:47:29.000 For those who've been following, I've started at 64 pant size, and these new pants just came in.

01:47:35.000 I am currently at 48 pant size.

01:47:38.000 Nice! 0.94

01:47:39.000 Yeah.

01:47:40.000 That's what matters, guys.

01:47:42.000 It's not so much the weight on the scale going down.

01:47:45.000 What matters more is, what is the body composition like?

01:47:48.000 What is your waist like, right?

01:47:49.000 If you're losing a lot of inches off your waist, but the scale isn't moving too much, good!

01:47:54.000 That means you're probably adding lean body mass while simultaneously losing fat.

01:47:58.000 So obviously, the scale isn't going to fluctuate that much, but what we're talking about is body composition, okay?

01:48:02.000 It's not just about losing weight.

01:48:03.000 It's about losing body fat. 0.99

01:48:05.000 That's what we give a fuck about. 0.99

01:48:06.000 uh ever since i got these new pants i'm starting to want to slap the shadow of these girls that's disrespecting how do you run game at the gym w sneeko uh Troy, you want to take this and then I can give my take on it after? 1.00

01:48:17.000 Yeah, it comes up every time on one of these streams.

01:48:21.000 Somebody asks about a game at the gym. 0.98

01:48:24.000 Firstly, if it's a regular gym you go to and you know the people there and you see the same people the whole time, I would probably not because don't shit where you eat.

01:48:32.000 However, if it's a gym that you don't go to frequently or there's just a very...

01:48:39.000 You know, you don't go at the same time every day or there's a very rotating crowd or whatever.

01:48:43.000 You can do it.

01:48:43.000 I would say proceed with caution.

01:48:45.000 I would say I would go more indirect.

01:48:47.000 So I did it last year in Warsaw.

01:48:49.000 I met a very nice girl and we ended up sort of seeing each other for a while at the gym.

01:48:53.000 And I went up to her and I just said, hey, I just saw you look cute.

01:48:55.000 But I was interested because I'm quite new to Warsaw.

01:48:58.000 I was interested in some restaurant recommendations.

01:49:00.000 Okay.

01:49:01.000 And she gave me, and the reason I did that, and it was very vanilla as a topic, but the reason I did that was I wanted to see how amenable she would be to having that conversation.

01:49:10.000 And she was like, oh, I tell you, and she got her phone out and she showed me all these places and stuff like that.

01:49:15.000 So I could see she was amenable to a conversation.

01:49:17.000 So then I was like, oh, well, it seems like, so you've lived in Warsaw for a long time.

01:49:21.000 She's like, no, no, actually, I'm from somewhere else.

01:49:22.000 So I made it a bit more personal to her.

01:49:25.000 And then at the end, I was like, you know what?

01:49:26.000 Actually, you seem pretty cool.

01:49:27.000 We should exchange numbers.

01:49:28.000 Maybe we can grab a drink or something.

01:49:30.000 She's like, yeah, yeah, sure.

01:49:30.000 So we exchanged numbers.

01:49:31.000 That was it.

01:49:32.000 Wow.

01:49:32.000 Okay.

01:49:33.000 I like that.

01:49:34.000 So you went in indirect.

01:49:35.000 Kind of indirect, yeah.

01:49:36.000 To create plausible deniability.

01:49:38.000 Yeah.

01:49:38.000 Saw how she was.

01:49:39.000 Temperament was fantastic.

01:49:41.000 You were able to transition.

01:49:42.000 And that's more advanced.

01:49:43.000 Yeah.

01:49:44.000 Where he was able to kind of assess the situation, make a real-time determination, and then switch it back to man to woman.

01:49:50.000 Exactly.

01:49:50.000 Because in that situation, even though it wasn't a gym that I was a regular at, I felt like if I go in there and I'm too, you know, I'm too crude or I'm too, like, make it too crass, there's a danger.

01:50:01.000 If she's not down for that, then there's, you know, it may not look good or it may not end well.

01:50:06.000 They get kicked out of the gym too for that.

01:50:08.000 Even nowadays, she might have a boyfriend working out.

01:50:09.000 Or she might record me on TikTok.

01:50:12.000 That too, that too.

01:50:13.000 Go viral.

01:50:14.000 Try Francis.

01:50:14.000 Can you imagine that embarrassing?

01:50:16.000 Yeah.

01:50:17.000 So, no.

01:50:17.000 That's really good.

01:50:20.000 That might be a way to go approach you guys in a gym.

01:50:22.000 You know what I've seen, too?

01:50:23.000 In a gym nowadays, a girl will be working out by herself. 1.00

01:50:26.000 Her boyfriend's like...

01:50:27.000 Doing another machine down the block or whatever, and I see him building, and it's like, she's a boyfriend.

01:50:33.000 You talk to her.

01:50:34.000 My man's here.

01:50:35.000 He comes up.

01:50:36.000 Who's this? 0.96

01:50:38.000 Nigga, you might be done for it. 1.00

01:50:39.000 I mean, if you're polite about it, oh, I didn't know.

01:50:44.000 Yeah, yeah, it should be fine.

01:50:45.000 Most people would be okay with that.

01:50:46.000 That's happened before to me, but whatever.

01:50:49.000 Would it be okay to call out a man for berating his girlfriend in public?

01:50:55.000 I mean, what, bro? 1.00

01:50:55.000 You want to put on a fucking cape, nigga? 1.00

01:50:58.000 Yeah, you want to put on a cape at White Knight? 1.00

01:51:01.000 Like, come on, man. 0.99

01:51:02.000 Unless she's getting her ass whooped, then yeah, like, you know, it's not your business. 0.99

01:51:08.000 Let's see here. 0.99

01:51:09.000 Would it be fair to say this game is good for short-term interactions, not for finding a wife, and if you meet a quality girl who's white material, then act a little differently? 0.76

01:51:17.000 No, because you need to...

01:51:18.000 Take it away, Troy.

01:51:21.000 Educate this young man.

01:51:22.000 No!

01:51:23.000 Because you need to have...

01:51:24.000 The basis of all of these relationships, whether you're going to marry her, it's going to be a one-night stand, or it's going to be casual, is you've got to have attraction, okay?

01:51:31.000 And attraction is generated in the same way.

01:51:34.000 So, no, don't make the mistake of thinking, oh, I've got to be so different with this girl because I want her to be long-term.

01:51:40.000 Because what you might then risk is that you don't act man to woman, you don't act in an attractive way, she doesn't have that visceral desire for you, and she just friendzones you anyway.

01:51:50.000 That's what I would say.

01:51:51.000 It's far easier to come in in the role of the fuckboy, for want of a better phrase, and then transition, tone it down to the boyfriend, than it is to come in as the boyfriend and end up, this guy's a simp, and end up getting friendzoned. 0.97

01:52:05.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:52:05.000 Good point. 0.96

01:52:06.000 Attract their first guys.

01:52:08.000 A lot of you guys don't want to do the hard work.

01:52:10.000 You want to come in and be a nice guy off rip.

01:52:11.000 That will set you up for failure.

01:52:13.000 I think the foundation should be the same.

01:52:15.000 The foundation is, okay, treat them all the same until they show you otherwise.

01:52:19.000 Exactly.

01:52:20.000 The problem with this guy is that he might think, Oh, Sarah Jane from Accounts.

01:52:24.000 She's so nice.

01:52:25.000 I'm going to take on 15 dates and I'm going to be a real nice guy, blah, blah, blah.

01:52:28.000 And then she ends up banging the chat anyway. 1.00

01:52:30.000 Yeah.

01:52:31.000 Who just, you know, who just rizzes her up at the club. 1.00

01:52:33.000 So you've got to be aware of female nature and you've got to play the game accordingly. 1.00

01:52:37.000 You'd be surprised how similar women are. 1.00

01:52:40.000 Yeah.

01:52:40.000 They are.

01:52:40.000 You think, oh, she looks like a nice girl.

01:52:42.000 Bro, you have no idea.

01:52:43.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:52:44.000 Bro, I mean, this might sound even more fucked up, but assume she's a whore unless she proves to you otherwise. 1.00

01:52:49.000 That's what I tell guys. 1.00

01:52:50.000 That way you don't get, you don't, because a lot of you motherfuckers, well, I'm just going to say, a lot of you guys are fucking faggots. 1.00

01:52:55.000 And what I mean by that, you guys being fucking faggots, is you come in, you talk to a girl, and you assume, oh, she's a nice girl. 1.00

01:53:01.000 She's the one for me. 1.00

01:53:02.000 She's, she's like an angel, right? 1.00

01:53:04.000 You're on some, you got this like pussy ass mindset. 1.00

01:53:06.000 No, if you come in and you assume she's a whore and she does some whore shit, you're not going to be mad. 1.00

01:53:11.000 You're going to be like, oh, okay, whatever. 1.00

01:53:12.000 But then if she's not, and she proves you wrong, fantastic, it's a W. But a lot of you guys go the other way, think she's an angel, she does some ho shit, you fucking rage and go wild, next thing you know, you're stabbing her on CCTV when she's getting fucked by another guy. 1.00

01:53:24.000 I saw some crazy ass video the other day where this fucking jealous ass guy runs into him, stabs the guy, guy runs off on her, and just stabs the girl to death. 1.00

01:53:32.000 And it's like, bro, a lot of y'all have this stupid ass mindset that think girls are angels, and then you go in a fit of rage when you see her act like a ho. 1.00

01:53:39.000 No, just assume she's a ho, If she proves it wrong, fantastic, it's a W. But, if she's a hoe, you're not mad. 1.00

01:53:45.000 You're not acting like a fucking wild man. 1.00

01:53:47.000 A lot of y'all that commit acts of violence or do all the sim shit that you do and end up in fucking jail, it's because you had an idealistic version of this woman in your head, she didn't live up to it, and you went fucking crazy, you saw red, you hit her, you attacked her, you attacked her boyfriend, whatever the fuck it is. 0.99

01:54:00.000 But guess what? 0.99

01:54:01.000 When you go in thinking, alright, she's a hoe, she's gotta prove otherwise, if she does some hoe shit, you're not gonna be angry, and worse, most importantly, you're not gonna fucking attack the girl. 1.00

01:54:09.000 You simps are the most violent fucking ones because you think she's an angel. 1.00

01:54:14.000 And then you have like a fucking retard attacking a chick. 1.00

01:54:14.000 She's not an angel. 1.00

01:54:17.000 No, stop being a fucking faggot. 1.00

01:54:19.000 Accept reality for what it is. 1.00

01:54:20.000 Some girls are hoes. 1.00

01:54:21.000 Most girls are hoes. 1.00

01:54:22.000 Just accept it.

01:54:23.000 Stop crying. 1.00

01:54:23.000 Stop being a fucking bitch and thinking that girls are idealistic angels. 1.00

01:54:26.000 They're not. 1.00

01:54:27.000 Goddamn, man. 0.99

01:54:28.000 Again, if you know their nature, you use it to your advantage. 0.99

01:54:31.000 Yeah! 1.00

01:54:32.000 A lot of y'all niggas out here, like, going to fucking jail, committing felonies for chicks that don't even fucking like you, man. 1.00

01:54:37.000 What the fuck is going on? 1.00

01:54:38.000 When you go to jail, she gonna fuck somebody anyway. 1.00

01:54:39.000 Yeah, she gonna fuck somebody else anyway when you're in jail, you fucking retard. 1.00

01:54:42.000 You just lost regardless, bro. 1.00

01:54:44.000 Goddamn! 1.00

01:54:44.000 Like, what? 1.00

01:54:45.000 Like, I'm telling y'all this shit so you don't end up hurting a girl physically or going to fucking prison. 1.00

01:54:49.000 You fucking faggots. 1.00

01:54:50.000 Like, a lot of y'all are just, like, simps. 1.00

01:54:52.000 I'm gonna You came for this girl! 1.00

01:54:52.000 Goddamn! 1.00

01:54:54.000 Next thing you know, you find out she's a whore when you got into a fight trying to protect her honor? 1.00

01:54:58.000 Yeah, of course you're going to be mad. 1.00

01:54:59.000 They're going to punch her and your dumb ass is in jail wondering what the fuck happened. 1.00

01:55:02.000 And worst case scenario, you end up marrying her and now you're tied to her for a couple years, lose your money, she's on you anyway. 1.00

01:55:08.000 Every single time I've seen a dude beat up on a girl or attack a girl or kill a girl, it's over him being a fucking simp. 1.00

01:55:13.000 Not understanding, like, not knowing female nature and getting enraged when she does some shit. 1.00

01:55:19.000 I'm teaching y'all this shit so you don't end up becoming a female abuser. 1.00

01:55:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:55:24.000 Never hit women. 0.75

01:55:25.000 Crazy, bro. 0.99

01:55:25.000 Never put your hands on a female, bro. 0.99

01:55:27.000 Never.

01:55:27.000 Ever.

01:55:28.000 You're gonna take an L every single time. 1.00

01:55:29.000 I'll go fuck if she hits you first. 1.00

01:55:31.000 Don't hit her back. 1.00

01:55:31.000 Leave. 1.00

01:55:33.000 Goddamn. 1.00

01:55:33.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:55:34.000 All right.

01:55:37.000 And here's the thing. 1.00

01:55:39.000 Listen, I gotta yell at you guys, because some of you guys watching the show right now, I guarantee you have this idealistic mindset of a girl, and if you found out she did some shit to you, you'd fucking probably attack her. 1.00

01:55:48.000 Get that idealism out of your fucking head, bro. 1.00

01:55:48.000 No, man. 1.00

01:55:51.000 Alright, where we at here?

01:55:52.000 I went to a doctor in June.

01:55:54.000 I was 288 and just used this scale today.

01:55:56.000 Says I'm 198.

01:55:58.000 Ain't no way that's accurate.

01:55:59.000 That's why I ask.

01:56:00.000 That's why I tell you all the time, use the same scale every time, my friend.

01:56:02.000 Don't use different scales. 0.97

01:56:03.000 It's gonna fuck you up. 1.00

01:56:04.000 Nigga, you using one foot? 1.00

01:56:07.000 What the fuck, bro? 1.00

01:56:08.000 Alright. 1.00

01:56:10.000 Detroit.

01:56:11.000 Anything else?

01:56:11.000 What else?

01:56:12.000 I think that's it, really.

01:56:14.000 I think a lot of this stuff, though, is down to the energy you embody when you go in.

01:56:19.000 Without sounding woo-woo, but you've got to have that masculine energy when you go in.

01:56:23.000 It's got to be man to woman. 0.88

01:56:24.000 You've got to have some dynamism about you.

01:56:26.000 Because a lot of guys, they'll watch old Tom Torero videos, they'll read some stuff about Daygame or whatever, and they'll be like, oh, so you look like you're a fashion model.

01:56:35.000 That's interesting.

01:56:36.000 Are you in college? 1.00

01:56:37.000 And they'll come in with this very fucking boring ass No charisma. 1.00

01:56:40.000 No charisma conversation. 1.00

01:56:42.000 You've got to have some fucking... 1.00

01:56:43.000 There's got to be some oomph to it. 1.00

01:56:44.000 Because why the fuck? 0.99

01:56:45.000 You know, she's got the choice. 1.00

01:56:46.000 If she's an attractive girl, she's got the choice of any dude in the fucking city. 1.00

01:56:49.000 Why choose you? 0.99

01:56:51.000 You know, there's got to be something.

01:56:52.000 And yes, looks are important.

01:56:54.000 Yes, all the stuff that we talk about.

01:56:56.000 Money, fitness, game, you know, finances, all that kind of stuff.

01:56:58.000 You've got to be working on everything.

01:57:00.000 We all do.

01:57:01.000 But the key thing is as well, you've got to have that charisma.

01:57:03.000 You've got to have that oomph. 0.87

01:57:04.000 And it's man-to-woman polarity.

01:57:07.000 You've got to bring that into it.

01:57:08.000 Otherwise... 1.00

01:57:09.000 I've seen good-looking guys who get fucked over by women. 0.99

01:57:14.000 Guys who are in shape, guys who are rich, who get screwed over by women or rejected by women or frenzoned or cheated on by women because they haven't got that kind of quality. 0.99

01:57:23.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.98

01:57:25.000 The other reason, too, why I don't want you guys to go ahead and put women in this idealistic frame that a lot of you guys have where you want a cape and be fucking Superman Clark Kent for these chicks is what ends up happening is when you approach them, you're going to be too fucking scared. 0.97

01:57:36.000 You're going to be nervous. 0.95

01:57:37.000 You're going to be pedestalizing her in the way that you speak. 0.98

01:57:39.000 And trust me, we'll make it tell when you're fucking nervous, guys. 0.99

01:57:41.000 If you come in and you're like fucking stuttering on your words like fresh or some shit, I'm just fucking around. 0.99

01:57:46.000 He don't stutter when he talks to girls for some crazy reason. 1.00

01:57:48.000 I don't stutter in person, bro. 0.99

01:57:48.000 Yeah, he stutters on the show for some odd reason, but not with bitches. 0.99

01:57:50.000 I don't know why. 0.99

01:57:51.000 It's weird. 0.98

01:57:51.000 But anyway, if you come in and you're not sure of yourself, your tonality's fucked up, you can't even speak or convey yourself, she's going to assume that you're not socially calibrated, you're a weirdo, and she's going to assume you're lower value. 0.98

01:58:04.000 Why? 0.96

01:58:04.000 Because you have this idealistic viewpoint of her in your mind. 0.96

01:58:07.000 You've got to knock that shit off, come in with some charisma. 0.99

01:58:09.000 You've got to make fun of her a little bit. 1.00

01:58:10.000 You've got to, you know, a little bro her a bit, because if you don't, she's going to think she's better than you.

01:58:14.000 That's why I don't want you guys to have this idealistic mindset with women. 1.00

01:58:17.000 You put them on a pedestal, she doesn't respect you anyway, then if you do end up getting her and she cheats on you, or she does We're good to go.

01:58:27.000 We're good to go.

01:58:30.000 We're good to go.

01:58:45.000 I'm holding an L. No, you took a W because you don't waste your time.

01:58:48.000 It's better to get rejected.

01:58:49.000 It's better to get rejected.

01:58:50.000 And look, I mean, most guys, I mean, okay, we can name a few, you know, super, super elite exceptions, but most guys are going to get rejected at some point by someone because, like, generally speaking, there are yes girls, there are maybe girls, there are no girls, okay?

01:59:03.000 And that's to say there are...

01:59:06.000 Some girls who will just be like, no way. 1.00

01:59:08.000 If he was the last guy on earth, I'm not going to fuck him. 1.00

01:59:10.000 No way. 1.00

01:59:10.000 Then there's the girls who are like, yes, I really like him. 1.00

01:59:13.000 I really like Troy.

01:59:14.000 Whatever.

01:59:14.000 There's something about his vibe.

01:59:15.000 I think he's attractive.

01:59:16.000 Whatever.

01:59:16.000 Fine.

01:59:18.000 JBW. And then you've got these maybe girls in the middle. 1.00

01:59:21.000 And they're the ones where you can maybe finagle them, maybe finesse them a little bit, maybe convince them.

01:59:25.000 But a lot of girls are just going to be no girls. 0.95

01:59:27.000 Yeah.

01:59:28.000 And it's okay.

01:59:29.000 It is okay for her to say no.

01:59:31.000 And here's the thing too, I want y'all to know, because a lot of y'all will be like, oh man, she rejected me, whatever.

01:59:35.000 Yo, you guys gotta understand that women go through emotions every day.

01:59:38.000 You might meet a girl on a bad day.

01:59:40.000 She might have went through a breakup. 0.89

01:59:41.000 She might be mad. 0.97

01:59:42.000 She might be on her period.

01:59:43.000 Like, women are slaves to their emotions. 1.00

01:59:45.000 So if you catch a wrong time and she rejects you, it is what it is, bro.

01:59:49.000 I've had it before where a girl rejected me, and then like a year or two later, she'll come back around. 0.59

01:59:53.000 Like, yo, it happens.

01:59:54.000 You know what I mean?

01:59:55.000 She saw the figures mount you up on the freshman.

01:59:57.000 Maybe.

01:59:59.000 But the point I'm trying to make to y'all is, like, don't take the rejection personal because, like, girls literally are slaves to their emotions. 0.99

02:00:04.000 And if she's not feeling it that day, it doesn't matter who the fuck comes up to her. 0.99

02:00:07.000 She's going to say no. 0.99

02:00:08.000 And that's fine.

02:00:08.000 There's nothing wrong with that.

02:00:09.000 Don't personalize it. 1.00

02:00:10.000 Whatever you do, don't be like, fuck you, bitch, or do anything crazy like that. 1.00

02:00:14.000 Like, okay, cool. 1.00

02:00:14.000 Have a good day. 1.00

02:00:15.000 I'll walk away.

02:00:16.000 Leave it. 0.99

02:00:16.000 And I can tell, this is just my last point here, A lot of you guys in the chat talking shit about women don't talk to women at all. 0.99

02:00:23.000 Because if you did talk to women, you don't understand. 1.00

02:00:24.000 Shit talking about women does not get you any play at all. 1.00

02:00:27.000 It actually hurts your chances if you look like a weirdo. 1.00

02:00:30.000 Yeah, one of the dangers of getting too deep into red pill stuff and getting too deep into the negativity is that that negativity is terrible for you in terms of going out and dating.

02:00:40.000 They can see it in you from a jump.

02:00:44.000 Get rid of that red pill range immediately, guys.

02:00:46.000 Alright, cool.

02:00:47.000 Troy, I think we got some lovely ladies here, so we're going to get going here in a bit. 1.00

02:00:50.000 Troy, we're going to find you better.

02:00:51.000 Yeah, find me on all socials at RealTroyFrancis.

02:00:55.000 So YouTube at RealTroyFrancis, Instagram and Twitter.

02:00:58.000 And just follow me on there.

02:00:59.000 It's been great.

02:01:00.000 And thanks for having me, guys.

02:01:01.000 And you're going to be back with some lovely ladies, man.

02:01:03.000 So we will go ahead and have a second show for you guys here in a bit.

02:01:06.000 But other than that, guys, yeah.

02:01:07.000 Stop putting women on pedestals, man. 0.99

02:01:10.000 And call approach.

02:01:11.000 Yeah, and get out there and call approach. 1.00

02:01:12.000 Stop being a fucking awkward fuck. 1.00

02:01:14.000 Get out there and talk to girls. 1.00

02:01:14.000 We'll catch you guys here in a little bit. 1.00

02:01:16.000 Chris just walked in.

02:01:18.000 So, peace.

02:01:22.000 So far away I just ran I ran all night and day

Fresh & Fit - July 26, 2023

Troy Francis Explains How To Do The PERFECT Cold Approach

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