On this episode of the Fresh & Fit Podcast, we have special guest Troy Francis join us to talk about Cold Approach International Gamble. We talk about how he got started in the fitness industry, how he started dating, and how he and his girlfriend met and fell in love with each other. We also talk about their relationship and how they started dating. Finally, we talk about his trip to Columbia, Columbia Columbia, SC and what he plans to do there in the future. If you're not familiar with him, then you need to be because he's been on the show before! He's one of the funniest people I've ever met and I'm so excited for you guys to listen to this episode with him. I hope you guys enjoy this episode, it was a pleasure to have him in the house and I can't wait to do it again with him again! Love ya, man! -Troy Francis Thank you so much for being on the Fresh n Fit Podcast! XOXO, Joe & Rory and stay tuned for more episodes to come soon! xoxo -Rory and Rory - The Fresh and Fit Crew - Fresh + Fit Podcast Thanks for listening and God Blessings, Rory and Rory, Timestamps: 1:00 - 2:30 - 3:15 - 4:40 - 5:00 6:20 - Why Women Deserve Less? 7:10 - 8:15 9: What's a Womanizer Wednesday? 11:00 | 12:30 | 13:15 | 15: What do you want to Know Us? 16: 17:20 | 18:30 19:00 // 21:40 | 22:00 / 22:40 23: 27:20 26:00 +27:00 & 27:00 # 28:30 +28: 30:00 Or 35:00 Intro Podcast? 31: 32:00 ? 33:00 @ 36:00? 35 +33: How do you need a womanizer Wednesday?? & 35:40 +36:00 = 37:00?! 39:00 , 45 + 40 + +40 + 41 + 45
00:02:25.000And check me out, guys, on FedReacts on Spotify because we're canceled off YouTube.
00:02:29.000So we won't be posting on any of our channels, guys, for the next two weeks.
00:02:33.000So, yeah, just stay tuned over here on Rumble, and we'll definitely make sure to give you guys the FedReacts content when we come back and then go get my book, Why Women Deserve Less.
00:02:42.000Anyway, we've got a fresh guest in the house.
00:03:47.000I'm a dating content creator, obviously based in London, but I teach guys all around the world.
00:03:53.000I've taught thousands of guys now the art of cold approach, going up to women that they don't know, having a normal, authentic conversation, getting a phone number, getting a date, et cetera, et cetera.
00:04:04.000I've also written a bunch of books about it, and I'm on Rule Zero with Rolly Tomasi.
00:04:55.000Well, I mean, I did a lot of traveling last year because I think the last time we did a show like this, we were talking specifically about Cold Approach.
00:05:01.000That was probably a couple of years ago now.
00:05:19.000So I went there last year and spent a lot of the summer out there.
00:05:23.000I remember reading Roosh books back in the day and talking about how he would rave about Poland.
00:05:30.000I've never heard anyone complain about Poland.
00:05:32.000By the way, that's how I first got into this whole game in the first place, really.
00:05:36.000It was because of Roosh V, because I used to write for his blog, Return of Kings.
00:05:41.000So that's because I was going out and doing game.
00:05:43.000I was working a corporate job, but I was going out doing game, meeting different girls, blah, blah, blah.
00:05:47.000And I would do a weekly column on his website, Return of Kings, talking about, you know, this happened, that happened, this was successful, that was successful.
00:05:54.000I got this girl, she rejected me, and all the learnings from that.
00:06:06.000Yeah, and you were, prior to this, you were a writer, right?
00:06:09.000Like, you want to tell people a little bit about your background professionally?
00:06:11.000Yeah, I mean, you know, I've written for various different organs, let's say, you know, different things like Days of Confuse, Vice, The Guardian, lots and lots of different...
00:07:27.000Yeah, so I spent a lot of time in Poland last year with my colleague James Tusk, who we always say we want to get on and he's never in Miami at the right time.
00:09:33.000So I've been in Bucharest quite recently as well.
00:09:35.000So Riga, I have to say, Because we do a bit of this passport pro type thing.
00:09:41.000I know it's become a bit of a buzzword now, but to me it just seems like it's kind of common sense.
00:09:45.000If you want to date attractive women and you want to go somewhere where maybe you've got a little bit more status perhaps in your home country, why not do that?
00:09:53.000So anyway, we check out these different places.
00:09:56.000So Riga in Latvia, I've got to say, A bit of a damn squid.
00:11:08.000Or you should at least go with friends.
00:11:13.000Especially if you don't speak the language.
00:11:15.000Or at least get some intel before you go.
00:11:20.000Obviously the good thing now is because we've got the internet, we've got all these connections, it's quite easy to find out From people, you know, what the vibe is like.
00:11:28.000I mean, because James travels a lot, so I get a lot of info from him.
00:11:32.000So they've been to places like Argentina, so I'm going to go to Argentina soon.
00:11:36.000You know, we talk about Peru, there's Bolivia, there's all these different places.
00:11:39.000So, you know, there's a big world out there.
00:11:43.000How do you cross the language barrier when you travel?
00:11:46.000As far as dating is concerned, so I personally have never found it to be a huge barrier.
00:12:40.000I mean, I'm not saying you get married to somebody in that situation, but it's definitely doable for like a bit of short term fun or like a sort of short term relationship or something.
00:13:24.000I think partly the internet and people are more aware of it as a possibility, but I think it's largely down to the things that we always talk about, which is the difficulties of the dating marketplace in a place like the USA or in the UK or Western Europe.
00:13:39.000We all know the dating marketplace is a bit of a shit show, to be honest.
00:13:44.000And guys are, I think, increasingly thinking, well, the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
00:14:44.000And obviously you've got the apps as well.
00:14:45.000I don't personally particularly use the apps very much, but I've got nothing massively against them.
00:14:51.000I don't think they work particularly well for average guys.
00:14:53.000I don't personally use them very much, but you can do a bit of pipelining.
00:14:57.000You can be like, right, I'm going to do a trip to Brazil, so I'm going to do some pipelining in Rio.
00:15:03.000Can you tell people what pipelining is?
00:15:06.000Yeah, so it's basically just going onto the app and lining up some dates before you get to the location.
00:15:10.000So you might do it a week before, two weeks before, set your location to Rio or wherever it is, and then get some dates sorted out before you get there.
00:15:17.000So it gives you kind of a soft landing, you know?
00:15:19.000It's funny, I do that on Instagram, or when I get there.
00:15:22.000The moment I get there, geolocation that area, just find girls I want to talk to, send a DM, done.
00:16:36.000Tinder nowadays is like, it is burnt out, and girls are just using it to, especially with OnlyFans and shit, they're just using that to funnel you to OnlyFans.
00:16:42.000I've had guys that I've worked with Who tell stories about how they'll start conversations with girls on Tinder.
00:16:49.000And then she'll be like, Oh, well, actually, I'm not in the country at the moment.
00:16:51.000But if you could, you just send me a bit of money because I needed to shit like that, you know, and it's just I mean, obviously, you should nobody should be taken in by that nonsense.
00:16:59.000But the fact that the fact that women are doing that is it just shows you the state.
00:17:02.000Oh, yeah, you know, it's crazy when they're like, literally putting their Venmo's and their cash apps in their in their profile.
00:18:10.000Because we were experimenting with sugar wraps over the past year or so to really kind of figure out, okay, so how can we help clients with this, you know, for research purposes.
00:18:19.000And it's actually quite interesting because I think you're right.
00:18:28.000And it's kind of crazy that women are almost taken in by that in a way, because, you know, you've just put yourself on the app.
00:18:34.000I mean, you're just some bloke who's uploading some photos, but she almost thinks, oh, he's on here, so therefore he must be of, you know, of this kind of, like, caliber.
00:18:44.000And so it gives you standout that you probably wouldn't otherwise get if you're just some idiot on Tinder.
00:18:48.000Yeah, and it sounds awful, but, like, the reality is that, like, women care about money, and they care about it a lot, unfortunately.
00:18:54.000And, you know, I'm not telling you guys, like, oh, yeah, just get money, and that's it, because then you're going to be getting used.
00:18:59.000But they've done this on Tinder, too, where, like, a guy had put a picture of himself winning, like, the lottery, and, like, he got ten times more matches.
00:19:28.000And you'd be surprised that actually if you're not like a bum and you're not like dirty or anything else like that and you got good professional photos, you'd be surprised at how many girls will actually message you because there's a lot of women on there that are actually successful themselves.
00:19:40.000I will say the quality of girls on those sugar apps is a little bit different because those girls are actually looking for something a bit more stable versus Tinder is like a quick fucking N. All right, cool.
00:19:52.000Typically, you get two types of girls.
00:19:54.000You got the girls that are just looking there like, I'm just looking for sugar daddy, I'm just looking for a trick, blah blah blah.
00:19:58.000You don't want those bitches, fuck them, those escort bitches.
00:20:00.000Then you got the girls that are like, okay, I'm on here to date, but a lot of the times these girls, right, they'll be professionals, their profile will be private, so you can't even find them.
00:20:46.000But no, you're right, because I think there's two very distinct groups, isn't there?
00:20:49.000Like you said, there's the ones who just want a load of cash, and they're like, yeah, I want a Dior handbag, I want five grand a month, whatever it is.
00:20:56.000And then you've got the other ones, and they tend to be more like, I'm just looking to meet, I'm just looking to travel, I'm looking to meet a high-value guy, I want to meet more interesting, intelligent guys, that kind of thing.
00:21:07.000Those are the ones that you want to meet.
00:21:10.000And I always tell guys, you've got to put yourself, go into a dream world, right?
00:21:16.000You kind of almost have to put yourself in a female's shoes so you can understand.
00:21:19.000A lot of girls, when they go on these tender, bumble, and hinge dates, the reason why so many women don't take them seriously is because they'll show up on a date, the guy will be awkward, you won't know how to speak properly, you won't understand tonality, you won't have interesting stories, he'll split the bill with her.
00:21:32.000Girls go on these dates a lot of times and they're constantly underwhelmed because, let's be honest, guys, a lot of dudes are fucking losers.
00:21:38.000A lot of guys aren't watching content like this.
00:21:39.000A lot of guys aren't understanding frame.
00:21:41.000A lot of guys aren't a red pillow wearer.
00:24:38.000Do you think that's because girls are more emotionally intelligent?
00:24:41.000They're a bit more Machiavellian as well, aren't they?
00:24:44.000They can sort of They've got that finessing down when they're quite young.
00:24:48.000They've had so many experiences with men from the time they were 15 years old onward that they didn't know, for example, if he's going to be weak, he's going to be strong, he's going to be a bad boy, a nice guy.
00:24:58.000And once again, with that many experiences, I'll take advantage.
00:25:45.000Because by the time you're 25 and she's 25, she's had way more training with the opposite gender than you have.
00:25:51.000And she understands what ticks men off, what gets them turned on, etc.
00:25:55.000And most importantly, she's dealt with a variety of different men and she understands where you stand in the social pecking order once she speaks to you.
00:26:01.000So she's able to put you in a certain box.
00:26:03.000Most guys can't put a girl in a box to save their fucking life.
00:26:06.000They can't tell if a girl's a whore, if she's a good girl, whatever.
00:26:08.000Most guys can't even vet a woman properly.
00:26:10.000But women absolutely can see what type of guy it is and what kind of caliber it is.
00:26:13.000Girls know who they can play games with and who they can't.
00:26:16.000So I say, yo, you need to get out there and fucking go to dojo and train as well because this is a very important decision you're going to make.
00:26:21.000If you pick the wrong girl, it could fuck your life up.
00:26:23.000But yeah, it goes back to what you were saying.
00:27:38.000They're the ones that ended in divorce, yeah.
00:27:40.000So this is, I think, is another problem.
00:27:42.000Because even if the guy does luck out and he gets his girlfriend, you know, he finally, after he's been on Tinder for 10 years and he's swiped a million times and he's finally lucked out with this one girl.
00:27:50.000And then he thinks, all right, okay, now I can sit back.
00:28:20.000Well, I think there's a bunch of guys, particularly on Twitter, that I see who are, you know, they promote this stuff.
00:28:25.000And I actually think it could be quite damaging for young men.
00:28:28.000Also, the other thing that's really stupid is you get a lot of guys who are, like, in their 20s, you know, and they've been with a woman for, like, maybe a year or two years or something like that.
00:29:43.000And then maybe they can say, yeah, I've got some tips.
00:29:46.000You know, I can teach you about like Dread Game or, you know, whatever it is to try and keep the excitement going.
00:29:50.000And people underestimate how much frame you need to maintain that for years.
00:29:54.000Like you could manage it for a month or two or a couple, you know, maybe a year.
00:29:58.000But after, like you said, before the fifth year, bro, the level of restraint and command you need for that to work, it's almost impossible to maintain.
00:30:07.000Yeah, and that's why I think people are looking at different models for this now.
00:30:13.000If you look at, say, people like even the Tates or like Sterling or people like this, and they're sort of saying, yeah, we want to have kids.
00:30:21.000We want to pass on our genetic lineage.
00:30:23.000But it's not necessarily going to be just settling down.
00:30:26.000It's not going to be settling down one woman going and living in a small town somewhere.
00:30:30.000It's going to be probably multiple women, probably in different locations.
00:30:33.000And they're looking for different ways to make it work.
00:30:37.000My thing with the Tradcons is that, I've said it before, I'll say it again, I think the nuclear family is the backbone of any thriving society.
00:31:21.000So my thing is, is that We're good to go.
00:31:44.000We're not going to fix it because women aren't going to regress on all the work that they've done to get to this point of equality and feminism.
00:31:50.000I would argue that women have more rights and privileges than men do nowadays.
00:31:54.000So they're not going to go and concede and be like, you know what?
00:31:57.000Yeah, maybe we should get back in the kitchen.
00:31:59.000Yeah, there's a couple girls that do it here and there for social media, etc.
00:32:01.000They're conservatives, if you guys know what I'm saying.
00:32:33.000Morals isn't gonna save you because these girls don't have morals anymore and they don't have the shame of religion or any of these other things.
00:32:38.000So you need to adapt to the marketplace and understand that you gotta understand female nature for what it is.
00:32:42.000And a lot of these trad cons just don't fucking get it, man.
00:34:06.000But the problem is that The Tradcons, I've always used the analogy, they're basically giving these men a butter knife and telling them, go into the gunfight, and it's like, okay, I'm going in there with my butter knife, okay, everyone else has a butter knife, right?
00:35:12.000But when I do end up becoming more religious and following the deem, etc., I'm absolutely going to go to a Muslim country, have my wives there.
00:35:23.000Environment is huge, and the West in general is not a place conducive to good long-term relationships where your woman is going to be faithful to you, put duty over her own personal happiness.
00:35:55.000You used to be a pastor, or would you be a pastor?
00:35:57.000In the vows, it says, and this is every marriage, it says that whenever they meet for the first time under the developed marriage, they say, hey, Do you also submit to obey your husband for this period of time?
00:36:46.000They want all these benefits of a conventional marriage, but they're not prepared to do their part of the deal, but they want all the benefits of the deal, which is why I tell guys, yo, what are y'all doing?
00:36:56.000Do you guys not see it with your own two eyes?
00:36:57.000Women nowadays don't think that they have to submit to you.
00:36:59.000Women nowadays don't think that they have to obey you.
00:39:55.000And I want you guys to give your takes on this.
00:39:57.000I'm saying, go out there, get enough experience, understand how women really move, don't get bamboozled, don't have the wool over your eyes, and then I want you to be able to make that decision whether you want to commit to a girl and use religion as a buffer or shame or whatever the fuck, but I want you to make that conscious decision after you've experienced it and you know what the fuck you're getting into.
00:40:16.000A lot of these tradcons don't know what they're getting into, don't understand female nature, don't understand the modern day marketplace nowadays with dating, they don't understand How feminism has affected things.
00:40:24.000They don't understand that they're going into a fucking gunfight with a butter knife.
00:40:28.000I just want you guys to go in there with a goddamn gun and know what you're doing so you can defend yourself.
00:40:32.000A lot of you guys are getting married without knowing the consequences.
00:41:56.000And that causes so many issues because if you can vet a girl for a year or more, you test her, you see where she's at mentally, obviously as well, you know, where her head is at.
00:42:04.000You can see, okay, she's actually a girl that can listen to me, follow my program, She's the next person to be around.
00:43:15.000Well, no, it's a really interesting point.
00:43:19.000And I think like all of these, like what you're saying, what you're talking about, you know, multiple wives, then you've got like the Tates.
00:43:35.000And, like, people say to me, well, you know, because I'm in my 40s, and people say to me, oh, you're going to be a lonely old man, and blah, blah, blah.
00:43:43.000But no, no, but seriously, like, I... There's a couple of things here.
00:43:48.000Firstly, I'm living testament to the fact that you can be in your late 40s, and you can still date around, and you can still have an amazing time, and you can travel, if that's what you want to do.
00:44:19.000So I think what you're talking about, if I had an end state in mind, it would probably be more like something like that, where you've got a main, or you've got a couple of mains, whatever.
00:46:15.000And it sucks, guys, that it's like that, but this is the way that females are.
00:46:19.000They need to constantly know that they're with the best guy, and the only way that you can truly affirm that you're the best fucking guy for them is when you have other women.
00:46:26.000And when you're picking her over those other girls, she's like, damn, okay.
00:46:30.000I got this guy, but how much longer do I have him?
00:46:33.000Versus your dumb ass is sitting there, okay, babe, let's hang out and watch Netflix together all the time and you're not on your shit.
00:46:38.000She knows that she's a top priority, etc.
00:46:41.000That's why so many guys get broken up with is because they revolve their life around their girl.
00:46:45.000The girl needs to revolve her life around you.
00:46:47.000You got to put your mission and you above everything else because she knows, let me know deep down, if you're successful, you got your shit together, she's going to benefit as a byproduct.
00:46:55.000But if she's the top priority, her security is fucked because she doesn't know what the fuck you're going to do because you're basically following her lead.
00:47:02.000I mean, it's a sad reality of life though, isn't it?
00:47:06.000Women particularly, they tend to want the thing that they can't quite get.
00:47:09.000And the problem I think with a lot of guys, what does the average guy do on a date?
00:47:13.000Sit down on a date, sit down over dinner, because they've gone for dinner, which they shouldn't do, and they're sitting down like, oh, so, tell me about, what are you looking for in the next five years?
00:47:21.000And he's like, yeah, well, I've got a really good 401k, and I'm hoping to get into a middle management role at my law firm, and all this kind of bullshit.
00:47:28.000And just laying it all out on a plate, you've got to retain some fucking mystery.
00:47:33.000You've got to have that mystery, and you've got to maintain that mystery.
00:47:36.000Now, when I date women, I mean, I take, cause I'm all over the place anyway.
00:47:40.000So, you know, I was, I met, you know, I was dating a couple- Your lifestyle alone doesn't work for you.
00:50:17.000And I wish women were more like men and you can actually be yourself in all this other shit.
00:50:21.000But the reality is that, no man, you gotta fucking, women like games, you gotta play the fucking game, unfortunately bro.
00:50:27.000You really do, and it's like, it is shit, because there would be nothing better than if it was just like, yeah man, you know, I really like you, and you know, it's you and me babe, and all of that, and it would be fucking great.
00:51:13.000So Rollo talked about this, didn't he?
00:51:15.000He said there's the old set of books and the new set of books.
00:51:18.000And it's like they're reading the old set of books, which is like the 1950s, sort of, the 1950s script, which is get a good job and, you know, take her out for dinner and dress nice and go to church on Sunday and chivalry and all that.
00:52:25.000And if a chick, like, drags you on, you're on a fourth, fifth, sixth date, you haven't even kissed her, you haven't smashed nothing, like, nine out of ten times, bro, that's your fucking fault.
00:52:34.000Because girls will sit there and let you waste your time on them, guys.
00:52:38.000It's on you to get rid of the girl quickly.
00:53:33.000And so the way that we approach now, coming back to the cold approach, is the way that we approach now is we are making the effort to have a sexualized undertone in it.
00:53:43.000You know, we're creating that man-to-woman polarity.
00:53:46.000Now, what that does is it separates the we from the chaff because some women are going to be like, no, fuck that guy.
00:54:00.000And I think you're better off because I think so many guys are scared of rejection.
00:54:04.000I want you guys to reframe rejection and look at it like, oh, this is good.
00:54:07.000Because when you come in and you make it man to woman immediately and you get rejected, that's fantastic because now you've effectively screened out a potential time waster.
00:54:18.000And now you can go ahead and deal with the women that actually look at you from a sexual frame versus girls that will sit there and be like, oh, well, we could be friends.
00:54:25.000The worst you could do is sit there and take the phone number of a girl that said we could be friends.
00:54:43.000And it's basically like, we go to the bar, nice lounge bar, something like low lighting, ideally sitting next to her, so that you could have a bit of, you know, a bit of physicality, a bit of touch and stuff.
00:54:53.000Sit down, you're getting to know each other, and you're also upping the ante with the flirtation.
00:54:57.000And I would normally have about two drinks, and then I would say, hey, listen, my place is over there, why don't we go back, watch some YouTube videos, whatever.
00:55:05.000Okay, so I'm giving her that invitation to come back with me.
00:55:56.000I think that process right there, you're going to find, for example, women that are into you, women that just want to have a good time.
00:56:02.000And if you can eliminate that from the very beginning, you win.
00:56:04.000Now, just to add to your point as well, I would just say add into that multiple locations.
00:56:08.000For example, you can have the bar at the first location, maybe like a dance club, second location, or even like a pool lounge, third location.
00:56:21.000And you want to have good logistics as well.
00:56:23.000So you want to have those decent logistics.
00:56:24.000I noticed actually Michael Sartain when he was on here, when you did that Destiny, Michael Sartain, Rollo thing.
00:56:30.000And Sartain made a really good point about logistics, about how important logistics is.
00:56:35.000And he said, you know, I lived on the Vegas Strip and that was when my results skyrocketed because I had that.
00:56:40.000I also, actually, I'll just say shout out to Destiny here.
00:56:42.000I also actually thought that his, I didn't entirely agree with everything he said, but I think what he was saying about the guys who want to smash The guys who smash are the guys who really want to smash.
00:57:09.000And one of the things that we've been talking about quite a lot recently is about testosterone levels.
00:57:13.000Because if you look at average testosterone levels amongst guys now are at an all-time low.
00:57:18.000And we think, or increasingly we're starting to think, myself and James and people I work with, Is a lot of this actually down to testosterone?
00:57:24.000Because if you're high T, you're naturally going to be going out there.
00:58:26.000However, two things can be true at the same time.
00:58:28.000The reality is the more looks, the more status that you have, right, looks, money, and status, the more of it that you have, the less volume you have to work to be successful.
00:58:38.000He mentioned the foundation is intent.
00:58:40.000So be careful because intent means if I actively go out there consistently over a period of time, I will get more results than the guy that has money or status.
00:58:48.000Because once again, my intent is only to fuck.
00:58:50.000So this means I'm on the ground, bootstrapped, going to clubs, going to locations, getting girls.
00:58:55.000Which means on paper, I'm getting more girls.
00:58:58.000However, the attainment can't be retained because once again, if I'm not successful, if I have that game, I might get her, but can I really keep her?
00:59:06.000I guess you basically made the argument that the guys that talk to most girls get the most girls.
00:59:09.000That is true, but that's not really the argument because regardless, you have to talk to women and work volume.
00:59:13.000But yes, the person that works the most volume, regardless of looks, money, and status, will get the most girls.
00:59:18.000But you also got to take into account how much volume are they working, what is the success rate, etc.
00:59:23.000Your success rate is going to be shitty if you're a lower status guy, even though you're getting laid.
00:59:26.000And the quality of women that you're dealing with is going to be ugly as fuck.
00:59:30.000Well, he seemed to be making an argument about, you know, that study that was talking about body mass index and height, and he was saying that there wasn't a huge differentiation between...
00:59:44.000And then he said this thing about volume.
00:59:46.000I just find that very hard to believe, because I think we all know, if there were two guys and they put in exactly the same amount of effort...
01:02:08.000Yeah, bro, you need to be sleeping eight to ten hours a night, man, if you really want to get gains, getting, you know, one gram per pound of body weight protein.
01:02:16.000But yeah, I mean, 14-hour shifts, bro, you can sleep.
01:02:19.000You just don't got time for nothing else, bro.
01:02:56.000So let's talk about what it is, why it's important, and how guys should probably go about it.
01:03:02.000Because I think this is kind of a lost art form nowadays.
01:03:05.000You know, just to give you guys a quick little history thing on my thing before I turn it to Troy.
01:03:08.000I think it's one of the best ways to approach women.
01:03:10.000It's something that I used to do most of the time before, you know, Obviously, we blew up on internet and everything, so nowadays cold approaching is a little bit harder than it used to be.
01:03:45.000But I think it's something that needs to be in your repertoire as a man.
01:03:49.000It's just something you need to learn how to do.
01:03:51.000You know, I know a lot of guys, your dad will probably never teach you this shit, but this is something you need to do because you're not going to go ahead and find your dream girl a lot of times on a dating app and or Instagram.
01:03:59.000And to be honest with y'all, I think for impact and showing character and personality...
01:04:35.000And I mean, what you should ideally do is to have a decent Instagram.
01:04:38.000And obviously, that's where you've always excelled.
01:04:40.000And you guys are obviously blown up now.
01:04:42.000Because if you meet her in real life, and then you add her on Instagram, say, look at my Instagram, and then she can see your stories, she can see your pictures, she can see your lifestyle.
01:04:52.000But no, Cold Approach is basically just going up and talking to a woman that you didn't know before that you are attracted to and making something happen.
01:05:01.000Now, people break it down into day game, a night game, and that's valid because obviously there are some differences.
01:05:08.000But ultimately, in the end, it's really just going up and having a conversation with a woman that you fancy, that you like, you know, trying to...
01:05:15.000Create some sort of chemistry between the two of you.
01:06:19.000When it comes to cold approach, if you can actually master the skill like I said earlier, you become more resilient, more steadfast, you have more frame, and you don't get as bluster when a girl flexed on you.
01:07:27.000Basically, Social Circle is basically like, right, I'm with a group of male and female friends, and I'm just going to hope that that hot girl over there likes me.
01:07:42.000If it backfires, it's going to be embarrassing.
01:07:44.000So that's going to inhibit you, right?
01:07:46.000If you think about going up to a girl and trying to give her a bit of rizz, create a bit of chemistry or whatever, you're not going to do that with a friend of a friend.
01:07:55.000Because if it goes wrong, it's just going to be fucking embarrassing.
01:08:04.000You know, we're talking about a direct friend group.
01:08:06.000Like, if it's like a friend of a friend and it's like two layers removed, that's one thing.
01:08:09.000But if you get rejected in your friend group, like, bro, that's going to lower your status amongst all the other women.
01:08:14.000I actually had a client recently, and he told me a story about how he actually got ousted from his friendship group because he hit on one of the girls in the friendship group.
01:08:23.000Now, the problem is, for a guy like him, and I'm obviously not going to give any personal details or anything, but the problem with some guys is that because they're not very socially adept anyway, when they do hit on a girl in the social group, they do it in a clumsy way.
01:08:36.000It comes across as creepy, and then the people in the social group are like, oh, that guy's a creep, and they push him out.
01:08:52.000Let's say you get into a friend group of people, especially in college, right?
01:08:55.000Where you really need that acceptance to get into situations because social circle is so goddamn important in college.
01:09:00.000If you get labeled as that creep, that can absolutely tarnish your reputation at that university and impact your ability to get into parties, to get into social situations where you can meet other girls, etc.
01:09:10.000So you have to be very cognizant of this and understand social dynamics and understand a way where if you are going to hit on a girl, you have a little bit of plausible deniability.
01:09:22.000And you're able to kind of play it off if you do fail.
01:09:24.000But a lot of guys aren't able to do this because it's a very nuanced skill set to do it.
01:09:29.000And it can literally fuck you up, which is why I agree with you.
01:09:31.000Social circle game, a lot of the times, if you don't know what you're doing, can backfire and you can get kicked out the group because a lot of guys are fucking simps or not.
01:09:41.000But just to add to your point as well, so another factor is when you're in circles, there's an option of, for example, having that settling mentality.
01:10:04.000Yeah, or you just outlasted in the friend zone longer than everybody else, which is also worse because she was fucking a bunch of guys in that time zone.
01:11:28.000Because if you look at Social Circle Games, so I think Michael Sartain teaches this.
01:11:32.000I don't know a lot about his course, but I think he's got this course and it's sort of like, yeah, build the lifestyle, get the girls, blah, blah, blah.
01:12:04.000I mean, and here's the thing, Mark, kudos to Mike for teaching that, right?
01:12:08.000He teaches social circle at a high level where you're actually befriending females, you're putting yourself in a situation where you're the guy that's bringing the girls, you have the social proof, etc., and it helps you get other girls, but let's be honest here.
01:12:19.000Most guys don't have the patience, time, and or resources to deal with having 20 to 30 female friends, getting them confirmed to come to parties, adding that value in, bringing them to clubs, all this other stuff, so that you can go ahead and have that social status.
01:15:04.000You know, you don't want to walk up and she's just, oh, this dude, he just wants to be friends or he's just looking for directions or something.
01:15:11.000So you want to go up and kind of own it.
01:15:12.000You're like, hey, listen, I came over because you're cute.
01:17:05.000If you haven't been there, then you can go to sort of like, oh, what I think about when I think about French girls is, you know, you've probably got some onions around your neck and you've got a baguette and you've got a sort of...
01:17:50.000At that point, you can kind of think, right, well, she's sort of somewhat invested in this conversation now because she hasn't told me to fuck off, basically.
01:17:57.000So, you know, she's kind of happy to be here having this conversation.
01:18:01.000At that point, you can start to turn the dial down a little bit from the sort of Overly kind of flirty type stuff.
01:18:08.000And you can be a little bit more like normal.
01:18:10.000You can be like, no, I'm here for work.
01:18:43.000The aim with the initial approach, unless you're going to go for a one-night stand or same-day lay or whatever, in most cases, the aim for that first approach conversation is just going to be to get her number, get her contact details.
01:19:19.000It's okay to, like, kind of, because you guys got to remember, like, you're coming up to her, especially if you got your shit together, you got good tonality, you got a very strong presence.
01:19:25.000Some girls might be intimidated by that.
01:19:30.000A lot of guys catcall, say weird shit.
01:19:32.000So if you come up and you make a strong masculine approach, you're not a weirdo and your tonality is good, you smell good, you look good, etc.
01:19:37.000A lot of girls might be intimidated by that and might not know what the fuck to do.
01:19:40.000So you can look her dead in the eye and be like, what, are you always this socially awkward?
01:20:06.000Because often what will happen in a rejection situation, you might walk in, you might talk to the girl, and she just says, hey, you know, go and say, hey, you look cute.
01:20:13.000She goes, oh, actually, that's really nice of you, but I've got a boyfriend.
01:20:17.000Yeah, that's an L. Or she's like, oh, thank you.
01:20:21.000I'm actually a bit busy right now or whatever.
01:20:24.000Right, that's an L. But if you're having that conversation and she's just giving you something a little bit extra back, you know, a little bit more back, then you're like, okay, right.
01:20:32.000I can feel clearly she's kind of, not say she wants to jump into bed with me, but, you know, she's got some interest in talking to me.
01:20:53.000I mean, all I do with that is simply at the end, instead of saying, listen, we should exchange numbers or drop your message, I'll just say, look, I've actually got 10 minutes now.
01:21:03.000There's a cool coffee place down the road.
01:21:05.000Why don't we just go and grab a quick coffee?
01:21:08.000Now, The one thing to say about that is putting in a false time constraint, I think, or putting in a time constraint is important because you don't want her to think, oh shit, I'm stuck with this guy now for the rest of the day.
01:21:20.000Can you tell the people what FTC or false time constraint is?
01:21:24.000Yeah, so I would just say to her, listen, I've got a meeting in 15 minutes, but why don't we go grab a coffee now?
01:21:29.000So you're putting an end barrier on it, rather than her thinking, oh shit, if I go with this guy now, it's going to be this, like, you know, because she's probably busy, she's got stuff to do, you've got stuff to do, whatever.
01:21:41.000So you want to put that end barrier on it.
01:23:23.000I'm comfortable saying, hey, you know what?
01:23:25.000I think you're cute, but, you know, your shoe's ugly.
01:23:30.000The point is, you can say whatever you want.
01:23:32.000Find something that you're good with, that you can own, and just do that.
01:23:36.000I'm just fucking around, giving you guys different examples, but the point is that the false time constraint, I think, is really important, and I'm really glad that you mentioned that, because a lot of y'all will come in and create this aura, like, you're just going to hang out with it the whole time.
01:24:01.000But, well, night game's another problem, though, isn't it?
01:24:04.000Because, I mean, you're probably doing it differently now.
01:24:06.000But if you go to the club and you meet a girl mid-evening, early evening in the club, and you've got a bit of rapport with her, what do you do then?
01:24:15.000Because say you meet her and it's like 11 o'clock, but the club doesn't close until, I don't know what time places close, but say 2 or 3 or whatever.
01:25:24.000One of my favourite things for game, actually, is the sort of in-between, like Gutter Game, the sort of in-between where, like, say early to mid-evening, if you go to a bar area and there's people standing around outside the bar in the street, and you don't have to go into the bars...
01:25:41.000So it's sort of day game, but it's sort of like night game as well because people are in that more social mood.
01:25:46.000They may be having a few drinks and stuff like that.
01:26:20.000So the other thing with instant dates is that, so here's the theory, right?
01:26:24.000The idea is you meet a girl in the street in the daytime.
01:26:27.000The longer you spend with her, theoretically, it's going to strengthen that interaction.
01:26:32.000Because, you know, you were strangers, and then if you've met her, you talk to her for, say, five, ten minutes, and then you guys go for a coffee.
01:26:39.000Theoretically, that makes it stronger, right?
01:26:41.000So when you message her, she's more likely to respond.
01:26:43.000However, the problem is, guys can fuck it up because they can friendzone themselves.
01:26:48.000Because if you go for that coffee, and then you're sitting there and you're a boring chump, then she's going to be like, oh, fuck.
01:28:51.000Again, you know, more feminine women, they tend to be a bit more amenable to, you know, to guys, a little bit more sort of, there's just a more sexual kind of vibe as well.
01:28:59.000You know, that Latin kind of vibe is just a bit more accepting of sort of, like, England's, you've got this caricature, haven't you, of these stiff upper lip, like English people, and it's kind of true in a way, you know.
01:29:09.000London does not have that many hot girls, man.
01:29:17.000It's a strange mixture there because you have got, obviously, you've got some real hotties there, but it's a little bit diluted because, you know, just the, I don't know, population size, man.
01:31:30.000So it's a bit of an illusion now to think that you can just meet some super amazing girl.
01:31:35.000Just because you met her through day games, she's going to just randomly start dating you.
01:31:39.000Because there's going to be dudes hitting her up in her IG and all the rest of it.
01:31:43.000There's always still that competition, but like Fresh said before, the impact that you can make on somebody by doing a cold approach is so much greater than if you just slid into her DM. 100%.
01:31:53.000Yeah, and I really like that you mentioned that day game was kind of a way around the night game, etc.
01:31:59.000And Roosh talked about this in his book.
01:32:01.000He said that the death of night game actually was table service and club bottle service.
01:33:37.000I would be like, hey, if she didn't make direct eye contact or when I went to shake her hand, she didn't hold onto my hand, I'd immediately be like...
01:33:44.000I'd just literally turn my back on her.
01:33:58.000A big space, no tables, no friggin' bottle service, but it's a chill environment.
01:34:04.000Everyone's there chilling, getting drinks.
01:34:06.000That kind of is a segue between going to a club or, for example, going to a big...
01:34:10.000But yeah, table service absolutely did kill night game to a significant degree because what it did was it automatically started putting hierarchies in the nightclub, and when you put hierarchies, women are slaves to hierarchy, so therefore they're going to go ahead...
01:34:23.000Even if they don't like the guys, they're going to go sit in the section because it makes them feel better.
01:34:26.000And I've realized this too, and I want the audience to really kind of get this.
01:34:30.000Women live life to flex on each other.
01:34:32.000I'm going to say that one more time for y'all.
01:34:34.000Like, really take this into your brain.
01:34:36.000Women live life to flex on each other, okay?
01:34:39.000There's a reason why women put such stake in their Instagram.
01:34:41.000They edit the fuck out their pictures, etc.
01:34:43.000They live life to be like, I'm prettier than you.
01:34:49.000Girls are so dumb that they will go ahead and prioritize flexing on other bitches at the cost of lowering their own sexual market value to do so.
01:35:15.000They live to flex on other whores, even if it hurts their own sexual market value.
01:35:18.000So now that you understand this, know that women are slaves to hierarchy, and this is why Night Game died a lot of times, because once you have table service, you have clubs, etc., the girls want to sit at the fucking table because of the status, even if they don't like the motherfuckers in there.
01:35:44.000Women don't make their own status because no one gives a fuck about their status.
01:35:47.000They gain their status through other men, but they inadvertently get it through experiences, taking pictures, being in certain locations, etc.
01:35:53.000Because we all know bitches don't pay for none of this shit.
01:36:59.000Like I said before, women care about hierarchy a lot.
01:37:02.000And they'll even lower their own value to do it.
01:37:04.000So what that means for you is, as a guy, if you got your shit together, you can go ahead and have your picket litter, especially if you're RPO, wear your well-dressed, you got your money on point, etc.
01:37:12.000But women shoot themselves in the foot and inadvertently put the men at the top You know the best, I want to say, night game profession I've seen here in Miami is promoters.
01:37:24.000They have the access of a guy with money, tables like a guy with money, and as well the option all day to go around and talk to girls.
01:37:47.000In London back in the day, people actually did that as a strategy.
01:37:50.000So there was a bunch of guys, including actually Adam Lyons, who was on that podcast with Zerka recently, who's an old London dating coach.
01:37:57.000They would actually do, they called it this thing, entourage game.
01:38:00.000And it would basically be being a club promoter, really.
01:38:03.000So they would say to the club, right, we're going to bring so many girls down.
01:38:06.000It's one of the easiest ways to do it.
01:40:30.000That was when I started to learn game.
01:40:33.000That was when the book, the game, around that time, the book, the game came out and then all this other stuff and internet forums and things.
01:40:42.000If I'm a guy and I'm just a regular guy amongst other guys, how do I stand in front of this woman that I'm attracted to and show her that I have status without doing it in a try-hard way?
01:40:54.000And that, to me, I think is the essence of game, really.
01:42:28.000Versus Let's say you're out in public and you can do a call approach, you can do Instagram, you can do all these things in one, then it doesn't matter because you have a tool belt with all these tools you can use.
01:42:39.000If there's one tool you have, it kind of sucks.
01:42:42.000And there was another aspect to that because when I used to go to nightclubs, I was doing all night game when I was younger, like nightclubs, bars, whatever.
01:43:16.000You want to keep the top of the funnel as wide as possible.
01:43:19.000You want to bring as many prospects into the top of the funnel as you can through whatever means necessary, whether that's through night game, whether it's through day game, whether it's through the apps, etc.
01:43:28.000Yeah, and when you're in abundance, you're not scared of rejection as much as you would be if you had no girls.
01:43:45.000And there's a story with Tristan Tate that he actually told again on Twitter quite recently.
01:43:49.000I was with Tristan Tate one time in the cigar lounge in London a couple of years back, and he was talking to the waitress, attractive, like, young, you know, Polish woman, whatever, and He was like kind of just big, charming,
01:44:07.000And the point of the story is that he didn't say, oh, I'm Tristan Tate, and oh, look at my cars, and oh, look at my Instagram, you know, look at my blue checkmark or any of that shit.
01:47:16.000And guys, we're doing that on purpose because when you lose weight nice and slow, you maintain it, less loose skin, and yeah, and the pant size has been dropping.
01:47:23.000More importantly, how many inches off your waist have you lost?
01:48:06.000uh ever since i got these new pants i'm starting to want to slap the shadow of these girls that's disrespecting how do you run game at the gym w sneeko uh Troy, you want to take this and then I can give my take on it after?
01:48:17.000Yeah, it comes up every time on one of these streams.
01:48:21.000Somebody asks about a game at the gym.
01:48:24.000Firstly, if it's a regular gym you go to and you know the people there and you see the same people the whole time, I would probably not because don't shit where you eat.
01:48:32.000However, if it's a gym that you don't go to frequently or there's just a very...
01:48:39.000You know, you don't go at the same time every day or there's a very rotating crowd or whatever.
01:49:01.000And she gave me, and the reason I did that, and it was very vanilla as a topic, but the reason I did that was I wanted to see how amenable she would be to having that conversation.
01:49:10.000And she was like, oh, I tell you, and she got her phone out and she showed me all these places and stuff like that.
01:49:15.000So I could see she was amenable to a conversation.
01:49:17.000So then I was like, oh, well, it seems like, so you've lived in Warsaw for a long time.
01:49:21.000She's like, no, no, actually, I'm from somewhere else.
01:49:22.000So I made it a bit more personal to her.
01:49:25.000And then at the end, I was like, you know what?
01:49:50.000Because in that situation, even though it wasn't a gym that I was a regular at, I felt like if I go in there and I'm too, you know, I'm too crude or I'm too, like, make it too crass, there's a danger.
01:50:01.000If she's not down for that, then there's, you know, it may not look good or it may not end well.
01:50:06.000They get kicked out of the gym too for that.
01:50:08.000Even nowadays, she might have a boyfriend working out.
01:51:09.000Would it be fair to say this game is good for short-term interactions, not for finding a wife, and if you meet a quality girl who's white material, then act a little differently?
01:51:24.000The basis of all of these relationships, whether you're going to marry her, it's going to be a one-night stand, or it's going to be casual, is you've got to have attraction, okay?
01:51:31.000And attraction is generated in the same way.
01:51:34.000So, no, don't make the mistake of thinking, oh, I've got to be so different with this girl because I want her to be long-term.
01:51:40.000Because what you might then risk is that you don't act man to woman, you don't act in an attractive way, she doesn't have that visceral desire for you, and she just friendzones you anyway.
01:51:51.000It's far easier to come in in the role of the fuckboy, for want of a better phrase, and then transition, tone it down to the boyfriend, than it is to come in as the boyfriend and end up, this guy's a simp, and end up getting friendzoned.
01:53:04.000You're on some, you got this like pussy ass mindset.
01:53:06.000No, if you come in and you assume she's a whore and she does some whore shit, you're not going to be mad.
01:53:11.000You're going to be like, oh, okay, whatever.
01:53:12.000But then if she's not, and she proves you wrong, fantastic, it's a W. But a lot of you guys go the other way, think she's an angel, she does some ho shit, you fucking rage and go wild, next thing you know, you're stabbing her on CCTV when she's getting fucked by another guy.
01:53:24.000I saw some crazy ass video the other day where this fucking jealous ass guy runs into him, stabs the guy, guy runs off on her, and just stabs the girl to death.
01:53:32.000And it's like, bro, a lot of y'all have this stupid ass mindset that think girls are angels, and then you go in a fit of rage when you see her act like a ho.
01:53:39.000No, just assume she's a ho, If she proves it wrong, fantastic, it's a W. But, if she's a hoe, you're not mad.
01:53:45.000You're not acting like a fucking wild man.
01:53:47.000A lot of y'all that commit acts of violence or do all the sim shit that you do and end up in fucking jail, it's because you had an idealistic version of this woman in your head, she didn't live up to it, and you went fucking crazy, you saw red, you hit her, you attacked her, you attacked her boyfriend, whatever the fuck it is.
01:54:01.000When you go in thinking, alright, she's a hoe, she's gotta prove otherwise, if she does some hoe shit, you're not gonna be angry, and worse, most importantly, you're not gonna fucking attack the girl.
01:54:09.000You simps are the most violent fucking ones because you think she's an angel.
01:54:14.000And then you have like a fucking retard attacking a chick.
01:55:39.000Listen, I gotta yell at you guys, because some of you guys watching the show right now, I guarantee you have this idealistic mindset of a girl, and if you found out she did some shit to you, you'd fucking probably attack her.
01:55:48.000Get that idealism out of your fucking head, bro.
01:56:24.000You've got to have some dynamism about you.
01:56:26.000Because a lot of guys, they'll watch old Tom Torero videos, they'll read some stuff about Daygame or whatever, and they'll be like, oh, so you look like you're a fashion model.
01:57:09.000I've seen good-looking guys who get fucked over by women.
01:57:14.000Guys who are in shape, guys who are rich, who get screwed over by women or rejected by women or frenzoned or cheated on by women because they haven't got that kind of quality.
01:57:25.000The other reason, too, why I don't want you guys to go ahead and put women in this idealistic frame that a lot of you guys have where you want a cape and be fucking Superman Clark Kent for these chicks is what ends up happening is when you approach them, you're going to be too fucking scared.
01:57:51.000But anyway, if you come in and you're not sure of yourself, your tonality's fucked up, you can't even speak or convey yourself, she's going to assume that you're not socially calibrated, you're a weirdo, and she's going to assume you're lower value.
01:58:04.000Because you have this idealistic viewpoint of her in your mind.
01:58:07.000You've got to knock that shit off, come in with some charisma.
01:58:09.000You've got to make fun of her a little bit.
01:58:10.000You've got to, you know, a little bro her a bit, because if you don't, she's going to think she's better than you.
01:58:14.000That's why I don't want you guys to have this idealistic mindset with women.
01:58:17.000You put them on a pedestal, she doesn't respect you anyway, then if you do end up getting her and she cheats on you, or she does We're good to go.
01:58:50.000And look, I mean, most guys, I mean, okay, we can name a few, you know, super, super elite exceptions, but most guys are going to get rejected at some point by someone because, like, generally speaking, there are yes girls, there are maybe girls, there are no girls, okay?
01:59:59.000But the point I'm trying to make to y'all is, like, don't take the rejection personal because, like, girls literally are slaves to their emotions.
02:00:04.000And if she's not feeling it that day, it doesn't matter who the fuck comes up to her.
02:00:16.000And I can tell, this is just my last point here, A lot of you guys in the chat talking shit about women don't talk to women at all.
02:00:23.000Because if you did talk to women, you don't understand.
02:00:24.000Shit talking about women does not get you any play at all.
02:00:27.000It actually hurts your chances if you look like a weirdo.
02:00:30.000Yeah, one of the dangers of getting too deep into red pill stuff and getting too deep into the negativity is that that negativity is terrible for you in terms of going out and dating.