Fresh & Fit - Trump’s Secret Crypto Stash And Why You Need Crypto Now!

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00:09:26.000 We're gonna be talking about new stuff with Trump and crypto.

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00:09:29.000 Uh we're gonna open up the phone lines, answer some questions for you guys.

00:09:34.000 As you guys know, with this YouTube channel, um, you know, now it's moving more towards uh financial channel.

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00:09:43.000 Um but you know, we're I think we're dropping one short or one clip a day on here right now.

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00:09:51.000 Um on Mondays and Fridays.

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00:09:54.000 Crypto course is out right now.

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00:10:00.000 End of the this week, beginning of next week.

00:10:02.000 So we we're gonna give you guys a bunch of value.

00:10:04.000 Uh explain what's going on with uh the Lances of the Crypto, Donald Trump, um, the schedule, and then also um answering questions with the phone lines open up the phone lines for you guys, and then we got woman propaganda on for tonight for after hours with some girls, that's obviously gonna be on Rumble and Kick only. 1.00

00:10:16.000 Um so we got it, we got a good show.

00:10:18.000 And I just got done doing uh the debrief here in a second uh a second ago.

00:10:21.000 So we're working, man.

00:10:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:10:22.000 We're grinding, bro.

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00:10:25.000 So um I'm am I missing anything?

00:10:28.000 That's pretty much it.

00:10:29.000 All right, fellas.

00:10:30.000 There's been talks around the world.

00:10:32.000 Uh what Trump is doing crypto.

00:10:35.000 He's hoarding it, taking all the bitcoin.

00:10:37.000 What's happening?

00:10:38.000 And add to that, they're saying it's bad for the economy.

00:10:41.000 What do you guys say about that?

00:10:42.000 I mean, they're obviously it's great for the economy, it's great for the US dollar.

00:10:46.000 Everything Trump is doing is basically to protect and extend the life of the dollar.

00:10:50.000 At some point in time, the dollar's either gonna transform into something brand new, just fully crypto, or we're just gonna make some new currency that's gonna be backed by basically our treasury of of cryptocurrency assets, you know, real estate and everything else as well.

00:11:04.000 You know, um like Trump they they passed a genius act with stable coins, and this is like this is what we started getting the finance minister of Russia basically calling out the United States.

00:11:12.000 Like, you guys don't understand what you guys are what what the United States is doing.

00:11:15.000 They're basically going to dump all their debt on the world.

00:11:19.000 Yes.

00:11:20.000 Which is why they don't like it.

00:11:21.000 Right.

00:11:22.000 Pretty much so t Trump's making all these tariffs, right?

00:11:24.000 So a lot of countries are getting pissed off, so they're buying less US treasuries, which is basically they're not buying our debt as much.

00:11:30.000 So Trump figured out a way.

00:11:31.000 Well, we're gonna grow the stable coin market.

00:11:33.000 All the stable coins are gonna be backed one to one, a dollar of stable coin to a dollar of US treasuries, and we're gonna let the global citizens around the planet basically destroy their local currency to get into a tether, a USDC or a USD one or whatever stablecoin that exists out there, and that is basically going to buy up treasuries.

00:11:53.000 I mean, um they're they're expecting sometime by like 2028 uh the stable coin market could grow to four trillion dollars.

00:11:59.000 That would make them the single largest holders of US treasuries on the planet, more than China, more than anybody.

00:12:03.000 I think right now we're maybe like 13th largest, the whole the the entire like uh stablecoin market.

00:12:09.000 And these are like one of the plans.

00:12:11.000 It's like we we like it it's sort of like what's happening right now in crypto and in kind of with Trump in office is Trump understands money.

00:12:18.000 Yeah, he's a businessman, he's made money before.

00:12:20.000 As much as people want to like shit on him on this guy knows business, and we want to be market leaders.

00:12:24.000 You don't want to be second place.

00:12:26.000 If you can help it, be first place.

00:12:27.000 So that's why we're like we've been pushing forward to like if if we let if we let China control AI, we're playing second fiddle and we're gonna lose, right?

00:12:34.000 So we're going, we're trying to control AI and we're trying to be the market leader in crypto, and that's what's happening right now.

00:12:39.000 Like we are the market leader in crypto now.

00:12:41.000 Also, keep in mind, um, I didn't know this until recently, but we're in a lot of debt.

00:12:45.000 Like yes, not just a lot of debt, we're in a massive amount of debt.

00:12:48.000 37 trillion dollars in debt.

00:12:50.000 That's insane.

00:12:51.000 Yeah.

00:12:51.000 Um but he wants to actually use this the big uh crypto to help pay out the thumb of debt as well, right?

00:12:56.000 Is that correct?

00:12:57.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:12:58.000 So absolutely.

00:12:59.000 Um so yeah, pretty much uh we've been we've been teaching the crypto mindset for the last five years.

00:13:04.000 Um we've been showing people how to self-custody, how to buy Bitcoin.

00:13:08.000 Um then it's gone to the point now where we've gotten very rich individuals, someone like Gary Cardone or the Cardones and stuff trying to like publicly buying it and stuff, and then I cannot believe going to the conference that Cardone was sitting there with his brother saying, I'm buying Bitcoin.

00:13:20.000 Yeah, I'm slowing on real estate.

00:13:22.000 I was like, what the Are you saying this right now?

00:13:24.000 You're gonna stop buying real estate and buy Bitcoin?

00:13:26.000 That's crazy, bro.

00:13:27.000 I mean, the last time we saw Gary, uh well, Gary Cardone and stuff like that.

00:13:30.000 We were telling him I'm a Solana.

00:13:31.000 He got into Solana after that.

00:13:32.000 Like a couple weeks later, he was on interviews like I just went crazy into Solana.

00:13:36.000 Yeah.

00:13:36.000 But but these these billionaires or these people worth hundreds of millions of dollars are all getting into crypto.

00:13:41.000 Now uh banks are slowly getting into crypto.

00:13:43.000 Now uh large corporations like uh BlackRock and um you're starting to get treasury company you're gonna try to get stock market companies.

00:13:49.000 So basically our private sector and our rich individuals and kind of basically the top ten percent of Americans are buying crypto right now, storing it up because as soon as the US government officially starts, hey, yeah, we're gonna spend about a hundred billion dollars a year to buy crypto assets.

00:14:03.000 It they're not gonna call it a Bitcoin reserve, they're gonna call it the crypto reserve, but it's mostly gonna be Bitcoin.

00:14:08.000 Yeah, they'll probably call it digital asset uh just because they don't like the words Bitcoin, they don't like the words crypto.

00:14:12.000 The media's basically uh what do you call it, tarnish tried to tarnish those names over the last ten to fifteen years to try to stop crypto that uh they just say digital asset reserve, anything blockchain is still okay.

00:14:24.000 But I I think what these governments and corporations, uh like Grant Cardones corporation, the government, the US government, other governments, what they're starting to realize is like okay, short term there's a lot of volatility in crypto.

00:14:37.000 Long term though, if you get the assets that have basically already won and are not going away, then you can basically outpace inflation with those and you can have a reserve of assets just like you know, with uh gold, silver, and other stuff too.

00:14:51.000 The other thing I think that they're realizing is if you look at like Miguel said, there's AI and crypto.

00:14:56.000 Yeah, just like we don't want China to be the leader in AI, right?

00:15:00.000 We don't want them to be the leader in crypto as well.

00:15:02.000 And they actually were the leader in Bitcoin mining for like ever dimmer almost forever until like just the end of the last cycle in twenty twenty-two.

00:15:10.000 Well uh a lot of that transfer happened um between middle of twenty-one to uh beginning of twenty-four.

00:15:16.000 It was like a long process, but now uh you have a lot of that mining going over into Texas.

00:15:21.000 But the thing that's interesting if you look at like a historical perspective of what crypto is and what AI is.

00:15:27.000 AI, I mean it's akin to like fire or the wheel.

00:15:31.000 Like it's that significant of uh what do you call it of an invention by humanity, right?

00:15:36.000 Like it's massive it could massively change the whole landscape of what we do.

00:15:40.000 Crypto, I would say is more along the lines of like the printing press.

00:15:44.000 Um it's basically the the major F you to the government in the sense that uh there's never been a time in human history where the citizens could have control of money and actually be involved in the process of money creation.

00:15:57.000 That's always been something that kings and you know uh lords, governments have always been in charge of.

00:16:02.000 And they are in charge of that with brute force, right?

00:16:05.000 With murder, with you know war, with all that stuff.

00:16:07.000 And so crypto, uh there's a guy named Milton Freeman in the mid-90s.

00:16:11.000 Uh he's an economist.

00:16:12.000 What he said was the only way humans will ever take the power away from the Federal Reserve again, or the citizens will, is if they do something that's technological and that's like a sly version of something the government wouldn't notice at first.

00:16:25.000 And Trump's and Trump's like beefing right now with the Fed right now as well and stuff.

00:16:29.000 So the Fed's kind of gotten back in line a little bit because Jerome Powell's out of here May 12th, right?

00:16:34.000 Yeah.

00:16:34.000 So they're cutting interest rates two more times.

00:16:36.000 Yeah.

00:16:36.000 25 basis points, October 29th and December 10th.

00:16:40.000 Another 25 basis points.

00:16:41.000 So if you look at it, we just got one in September, we're gonna go in October, another one in December, probably another one in February.

00:16:47.000 And then Jerome basically said he's not gonna cut anymore.

00:16:50.000 And then as soon as uh Trump puts uh somebody brand new in office, the cuts are gonna continue probably because Jerome is basically saying that like we'll cut one more time in twenty-seven.

00:16:58.000 No, that's not that that's crazy.

00:17:00.000 So he's like saying one basis point cut of twenty-five basis points for twenty-six and then one for twenty-seven, that's nothing.

00:17:04.000 Yeah, I mean, Trump campaigned on cutting interest rates.

00:17:07.000 He said that when he was campaigning, we're gonna need to bring the interest rates down.

00:17:10.000 Um and he's a real estate guy, so I'm not surprised, you know.

00:17:12.000 Yeah, he went.

00:17:15.000 Every time he's been in office, you know, uh, rates have been somewhat manageable.

00:17:19.000 I mean, we did get lows during the COVID pandemic, but I think that was more about less so Biden, more about just the pandemic.

00:17:26.000 Yeah, the economy shutting down.

00:17:27.000 Yeah.

00:17:27.000 But we were still at zero percent right there, and then twenty like I mean, literally look at it.

00:17:32.000 I mean, like twenty uh in crypto stock market too, we all to we basically topped out November, December of twenty one, and then January, fifty basis point increase, and then in within two years, we went from zero to like five and a quarter, five and a half percent.

00:17:46.000 And then you know what in real estate, you know, th that means like 30 year mortgage is like seven or eight percent, nine percent.

00:17:51.000 Yeah, you know, from like three percent right now.

00:17:53.000 Right now, yeah, it was the last couple of deals I've done are been like eight is between seven and nine percent.

00:17:57.000 Like, what what does it cost to like cut a point?

00:17:59.000 Because you you always would buy real estate, but also like take points off, right?

00:18:02.000 Yeah, you can buy, yeah, you can buy points uh to bring it down.

00:18:05.000 Um, but then you start to get to a point of diminishing returns where it doesn't make sense.

00:18:09.000 Um but I was buying it as an investor, so obviously if you buy an investor, you it's always gonna be a point of just off of that alone.

00:18:15.000 It's gonna go up a percent typically.

00:18:16.000 But if you're buying it as a as a you know, uh as a you know, as a homeowner and you're gonna live in it uh as your residence, you'll probably get around six or seven.

00:18:24.000 Yeah.

00:18:24.000 At least when I was buying right now, I don't know what the rates are exactly.

00:18:27.000 Um but they're coming down a little bit.

00:18:29.000 Probably, yeah.

00:18:30.000 I would estimate somewhere between seven and nine percent.

00:18:32.000 I I think long term, like I think Trump probably I mean, we can't go back to zero.

00:18:35.000 We can't.

00:18:36.000 It's it's inflation would go crazy.

00:18:38.000 You'll never see through sub three percent interest rates ever again.

00:18:40.000 Not for a long time.

00:18:41.000 Not for a long time, yeah.

00:18:42.000 But we're probably he's gonna like if if Trump is in control by twenty middle of twenty six, which he will be, I think we're gonna be the Fed's fund rate's gonna be like two percent.

00:18:50.000 So that means you know, good credit, you're probably getting like low fours on a 30 year that would be good.

00:18:57.000 Yeah.

00:18:57.000 And that's deep that's enough, and then it's pretty damn good.

00:18:59.000 Yeah, and that's kind of what I was talking about the other show is like we're gonna start we're gonna start getting a refinance boom in the real estate market.

00:19:04.000 Yeah.

00:19:04.000 Especially like he's been getting letters on that.

00:19:06.000 Yeah, like refinance, refinance.

00:19:08.000 But like the deal has to be good enough because there's tons of people, like that's actually gonna be what's fuels the next crypto bull run in the next stock market run.

00:19:14.000 Is it's gonna be real estate has basically been at a standstill since 22, basically, right?

00:19:19.000 And no one can sell right now.

00:19:20.000 No one can sell.

00:19:21.000 So so people are house rich, cash poor, and then some people, you know, if they have equity, right?

00:19:24.000 If if you bought from 2008, or like let's just say 2009 to like 2018, 2019, you have equity.

00:19:29.000 Yeah, you have plenty of equity now.

00:19:31.000 But you know double.

00:19:32.000 It should be double, right?

00:19:33.000 But you can't but if you sell it, you're like, damn, this payment's ridiculous.

00:19:37.000 You know, sure you have cas people don't want to like you know, get into a like e an equal house they had in California, buy one in Miami, and they're like, dude, this is I'm paying twice the mortgage that I paid in California for this house in Miami, just because the um the interest rate's so much higher.

00:19:50.000 Yeah.

00:19:50.000 Buying an equal like level, sort of like level.

00:19:52.000 Well, as you're saying, like them buying a house back in 08 in California and then coming to Miami is like the same.

00:19:57.000 It's six near the same thing if not more.

00:19:59.000 So prices are high higher too.

00:20:00.000 So rate is high, and price is high too.

00:20:02.000 Exactly.

00:20:02.000 So we are getting some real estate prices coming down finally.

00:20:05.000 Um the interest rate, there's gonna be a point in time, like I like I kind of think like if the rates keep coming down, we're gonna start getting a lot of uh refinances probably at the end of uh 26, and then probably like maybe prices are done crashing finally by middle of 27, the summer because usually the summer is where all the sales happen.

00:20:21.000 Like no one buy like most people don't buy houses in December.

00:20:23.000 It's just a terrible time in real estate to buy.

00:20:25.000 You know, because most people, you know, they're they're emotional buying, they're like, let me see how this house looks in spring or in summer, basically, right?

00:20:31.000 But like, you know, if you like, you know, Charlie's from Minnesota, right?

00:20:33.000 Like who who goes buys houses in Minnesota in December, it's all I covered in ice.

00:20:38.000 Yeah, it's cold.

00:20:39.000 Yeah.

00:20:40.000 But like I'm really bullish for the economy, and like there's a light at the end of the tunnel for especially for like 27, 28, and 29.

00:20:46.000 Right.

00:20:47.000 The only thing like that I'm worried about a little bit is what's gonna happen in 28, who's gonna is it gonna be JD, or is it gonna be like is it somebody from the left?

00:20:55.000 That's where I get a little like I'm a little like I don't know.

00:20:58.000 I mean, obviously, like the the Dems steal money and they pump the markets, of course, on the stock market side, but um they could spend the whole next four years trying to just take back whatever you know he did.

00:21:09.000 And that's why the number one most important thing in my mind uh of what uh they should actually like set in stone in terms of law of what they've passed for executive orders and different things uh uh related to crypto is the anti-CBDC Act.

00:21:21.000 Right.

00:21:22.000 Basically uh Trump signed an executive order saying during my term, there will not be a central bank digital currency being created in the United States.

00:21:28.000 Yeah, right.

00:21:29.000 And that's only an executive order.

00:21:31.000 So if the let's say the Democrats came in and said, well, screw that, Europe actually um between basically uh 2026 to 20, I would say 31, somewhere within there.

00:21:43.000 The EU is going to get a central bank digital currency.

00:21:46.000 Israel's probably gonna get one. 0.97

00:21:47.000 Uh the same company is making it basically.

00:21:50.000 No surprise.

00:21:51.000 We had them in a webinar uh actually in the spring.

00:21:54.000 Um the company that's made uh uh help to support.

00:21:57.000 Can you explain to the audience real quick what a uh central bank um digital currency is?

00:22:00.000 Yeah, it's uh dystopian.

00:22:02.000 So it's basically a simplest way you can for them.

00:22:04.000 Yeah, the simplest way is it's uh it's a stable coin or it's a coin that's stable to that currency.

00:22:09.000 So let's say it's the US dollar, right?

00:22:12.000 So if it's a digital version of the US dollar, it's a digital version of the US dollar, but created by the government, not created by a corporation.

00:22:18.000 So it's uh that's the one that would be termed official, right?

00:22:21.000 And so it's an official government currency.

00:22:23.000 And what they can do with that is well, the NSA.

00:22:26.000 We know what the NSA is doing, right?

00:22:28.000 And so they can uh track Everybody's uh money, what they're doing with their money, they can uh pause people's money.

00:22:35.000 They can it's basically ultimate control if it was like a cashless society as an example.

00:22:39.000 So it's gives them a lot more authoritative control and viewpoint into people's finances than even the banks are right now.

00:22:46.000 It's and so that's not good.

00:22:47.000 That's what not what we want crypto to be used for.

00:22:50.000 And um the reason why the EU is going after that um is simply just because it's an easier way to control everything that's going on on um among multiple countries.

00:23:00.000 Also, you probably got a lot of people who are like, well, what we could do is let's say, for example, like in a dystopian example, um, let's say you're driving uh a Porsche to go somewhere and you're going to eat somewhere and you're eating like you know, grass-fed beef and all this stuff, and they're like, Okay, I'm gonna pay for this, I'm gonna buy this at the restaurant, and they say, Well, sir, actually you've used up your carbon credits related to to your central bank digital currency for the month.

00:23:22.000 So actually, uh, since you drove here in a Porsche, you can't have a stake or or whatever it might be, right?

00:23:27.000 They could do something like that.

00:23:28.000 So an authoritative or totalitarian type government would uh or dictatorship, right?

00:23:33.000 Would would be happy to have that.

00:23:35.000 Uh, but yeah, we have and Saudi Arabia is the the third country that's going to basically um be doing that.

00:23:41.000 So EU Saudi Arabia.

00:23:42.000 So EU is starting is it uh fully implemented in EU yet or no?

00:23:45.000 No, no.

00:23:46.000 So Christine Lagarde um earlier this year, and she's been talking about this ever since she got into power there.

00:23:51.000 Um she said October of this year is when they want to start having uh the laws passed that that can happen.

00:23:58.000 Um that it that it could be used.

00:24:00.000 It could be implemented, yes.

00:24:01.000 And then uh there's a guy named Richard Werner, who's uh an economist who's uh through Germany, the UK, and he's where he works at Oxford, he's um also uh been in Japan for a long period of time.

00:24:13.000 He had this really interesting documentary called The Princes of the Yen.

00:24:16.000 And he's basically said uh the timeline of what you saw for the EU to get created is kind of a similar timeline for the central bank digital currency.

00:24:24.000 And if you kind of compare those timelines, it would be between 2026 and 2032 where you get that more than likely 2029, 2031.

00:24:32.000 So what I why I was mentioning that is because if the EU gets it and then somebody another party comes into power that's more aligned with maybe that type of philosophy, then um they could say, Screw that executive order, we're gonna get rid of that.

00:24:45.000 We're actually gonna implement this because we can see that the EU the last two years has been doing this all right.

00:24:49.000 So let's just copy that model.

00:24:50.000 It's great.

00:24:51.000 We can give UBI to people easier.

00:24:52.000 They'll try to make it sound like it's good for you.

00:24:54.000 Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

00:24:55.000 They're probably gonna roll it out where hey, you you do this and we'll give you some money and you know, normies are gonna look at it like, oh, really?

00:25:01.000 Yeah, it's way easier, it's cashless, so like blah blah blah.

00:25:04.000 Obviously, people like us, right?

00:25:05.000 Because we've been we understand censorship, we understand how the internet works and everything else like that.

00:25:09.000 But normies don't have a grasp on this.

00:25:11.000 Yes, not at all.

00:25:12.000 And I've been talking about this since twenty nineteen, people thought I was crazy.

00:25:15.000 Well is the big problem because now people are losing their jobs, they have no money, they need money.

00:25:19.000 So you offer them to check every month welfare up on this, like welfare and all these government services, eventually they'll make you download an app.

00:25:27.000 That's how they're gonna force it to happen, especially in in those countries.

00:25:30.000 Is you have to download the government app.

00:25:31.000 That's how you're gonna get your wick.

00:25:32.000 That's where you can get your welfare, that's how you're gonna get your uh you know, basically your uh your subsidies or maybe like pay from the government, and that's how they're gonna on start onboarding people into this.

00:25:42.000 And the reason it's it's so bad is because it's mixing the NSA with Palantir. 0.55

00:25:46.000 They're gonna look at all your data, and as soon as just like that, like we're gonna demonetize you.

00:25:51.000 Done.

00:25:51.000 And they can turn you off.

00:25:52.000 Now, the United States is not gonna go, it's they're gonna do this selectively at first, but there's other countries that are gonna go way harder.

00:25:58.000 China's been doing it for a long time.

00:25:59.000 They've been trying it out for a long time.

00:26:00.000 So like when you have total control of the economy, there's no real dollars anymore.

00:26:04.000 There's no more real like like like physical dollars than because it's all digital at that point, then they could say, you know, the economy's a little slow today.

00:26:12.000 Um all the money that was made in the last two weeks, you have to spend it before Monday or it disappears.

00:26:19.000 That way they can control a little bit better.

00:26:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:26:23.000 And they can they can exclude stuff.

00:26:24.000 They can say, actually, and you can't spend it on electronics.

00:26:27.000 You have to spend it on other stuff.

00:26:28.000 And they can literally select what you can spend.

00:26:31.000 But remember uh uh I don't know if you guys saw this tweet uh recently in the EU.

00:26:34.000 There's someone who got arrested for reposting someone's tweet.

00:26:37.000 Yes.

00:26:37.000 And the UK, yeah, yeah.

00:26:39.000 I saw that.

00:26:39.000 That's crazy, bro.

00:26:40.000 It's a female council and they showed up because I'm imagining being in jail for posting a tweet. 0.99

00:26:45.000 That was a kid, right?

00:26:46.000 That was a kid right now.

00:26:47.000 No, imagine your bank account.

00:26:48.000 Even worse.

00:26:49.000 Yeah, even worse.

00:26:50.000 And I I would say like uh EU is probably the gonna be the quickest to get it implemented.

00:26:55.000 Israel and Saudi Arabia will be next because they can kind of just do it a lot more quickly. 0.94

00:26:58.000 They don't have to have as many checks and balances.

00:27:00.000 Yeah.

00:27:00.000 But uh there's a politician from Minnesota called Tom Emmer.

00:27:03.000 You've probably heard of him.

00:27:04.000 He's uh the whip of the thing of the Republican Party.

00:27:06.000 And um he's been actually a very good proponent and very actually I'd say one of the few politicians that's actually very uh eloquent about speaking about cryptocurrency understands it.

00:27:16.000 You know, it's not just somebody gave him talking points and like said, hey, here's what you talk about.

00:27:20.000 Um he actually looks like he sat down and understood this and he said, as a nation, we need to make sure that this absolutely does not happen.

00:27:28.000 We need to make sure that executive order gets turned into law, and if that happens within the next three years, awesome.

00:27:34.000 Because what the United States is gonna do instead is they're going to go into corporation-based stable coins, which are not central bank digital currencies, so uh one ultimate power is not gonna be able to turn them off.

00:27:44.000 You're gonna be able to choose between a plethora of options like Circle, which is Coinbase.

00:27:48.000 Uh also PayPal has their own.

00:27:50.000 Robinhood's probably gonna come out with their own stable coin different crypto wallets like MetaMask are gonna come up with the bigger.

00:27:54.000 But the problem is if the government makes their own and forces you to use it.

00:27:57.000 Then they have one choke point.

00:27:58.000 Yeah.

00:27:58.000 Where like No, I mean I can absolutely see how that would be very bad because um the levers of control begin.

00:28:05.000 So because here's the thing, uh I see where you guys are saying, like, because some people might say, Oh, well, who cares?

00:28:10.000 Like, allow it for people that want to use it.

00:28:12.000 Well, the problem is that obviously a lot of people aren't gonna want to use it.

00:28:16.000 Right.

00:28:16.000 And then they're gonna, oh, we need more people to sign up, and then they're gonna find ways to force people in.

00:28:20.000 Yeah, it's 1984.

00:28:21.000 It's the beginning of stuff like that, you know.

00:28:23.000 So you don't even want it to come in, even as a choice you think is bad.

00:28:25.000 No, no, no.

00:28:27.000 The choice is stable coins, right?

00:28:28.000 That's perfectly fine.

00:28:29.000 You have USD tether, for example.

00:28:31.000 Tether, circle, USDC, um PayPal USD, which is directly tied to a currency a foreign bat, uh sorry, a government currency already.

00:28:39.000 Yeah, and it's uh it's a corporate.

00:28:41.000 So the way that Tether does it, right?

00:28:43.000 They have their corporation, they print digital dollars, but they do so based on how much value they actually have of dollars within their corporation.

00:28:52.000 Uh they recently hired Bo Hines, who is in the Trump administration, uh, because he was actually behind uh the movement of the Genius Act that passed this summer, which allowed corporations to basically make stable coins, it made stable coin uh legalization essentially, like regulated.

00:29:07.000 Okay.

00:29:07.000 Uh and so now what you're gonna see a lot of banks do, like JP Morgan, right?

00:29:10.000 They're gonna be like, oh, well, we're at the front of the money printer.

00:29:13.000 We wanna stay at the front of the money printer.

00:29:15.000 So they're gonna aggressively uh do these things.

00:29:18.000 And so Ethereum is the coin that basically all this is built upon.

00:29:22.000 Like I said, the company, uh I won't name the name, but the company that made uh well that helped to fund Ethereum and Cardano back in, I think this was like 2015.

00:29:32.000 They're the ones that are also helping the some of the central bank digital currency go through.

00:29:37.000 Um they're going to create some privacy stuff related to that.

00:29:41.000 So uh and then there's gonna be that technology will probably be copied by a lot of other things.

00:29:45.000 But the core point is that a lot of it's built on or almost all of it will be built on Ethereum, and so that's going to bring a lot of well, so the the rule in crypto is whenever you have stable coins coming in to an ecosystem, price goes up because you have money sitting there, eventually that money's gonna buy up Ethereum, buy up whatever assets are in that space.

00:30:04.000 And so if you have uh Tom Tom Lee, who's uh the head of this company called BitMine that's uh trying to own five percent of all Ethereum supply, um he's basically talking about how many trillions of dollars are going to come into crypto just because of all these stable coins being created by these corporations.

00:30:21.000 So I mean, think about it, right?

00:30:23.000 How much money does PayPal have?

00:30:24.000 How much money does JP Morgan have?

00:30:26.000 How much assets do they all have that they can be like, okay, we're actually backing the dollars that we're printing or that we're putting into circulation that people can use as like an IOU.

00:30:36.000 We're backing that with actual assets that we have, sometimes dollars, maybe sometimes their own real estate, uh, but they put that down as collateral essentially.

00:30:43.000 And so when you get all that money coming into onto Ethereum, right?

00:30:48.000 It goes up a lot.

00:30:49.000 Yeah.

00:30:49.000 Long term, long term.

00:30:50.000 Yeah, no, but I can absolutely see why people are concerned with the you know central bank.

00:30:55.000 I mean, central banks in general are uh create problems, but you know, with the digital currency, oh god.

00:30:59.000 Well, what I was told is to get your money up now.

00:31:02.000 Well, you still can.

00:31:03.000 Yep.

00:31:03.000 Trump's in office.

00:31:04.000 Yep.

00:31:04.000 Get two passports, one US, one outside, and run for the hills.

00:31:10.000 Yeah.

00:31:10.000 That's what I was told.

00:31:11.000 Well, you have to always be able to, yeah.

00:31:13.000 Yeah, uh part of freedom is being able to do what you want when you want with whom you want wherever you want, right?

00:31:18.000 Yeah, you've got to have control of some of your money, buy some Bitcoin, buy some Ethereum, like focus on those two mostly.

00:31:23.000 And you know, you can speculate, let's make some money, of course, but you know, long term, like like every every time the market crashes, like during the all-time lows like um during twenty nineteen or during twenty twenty two I bought Bitcoin and I bought Ethereum that I'm not selling.

00:31:37.000 I'm just keeping it for a long time and for a long you know this is like a 10, 20, 30 year hold for me, you know.

00:31:42.000 And for both your Bitcoin and the Ethereum.

00:31:45.000 Yes.

00:31:45.000 Both 10 years.

00:31:46.000 Yeah at least at least 10 years or more.

00:31:48.000 I mean before I take it.

00:31:49.000 10 years from this point or from when you bought it.

00:31:51.000 I would say probably from this point.

00:31:52.000 Yeah at this point like 2035 so 235 is when you're looking at maybe liquidating it.

00:31:56.000 Maybe liquidating a little bit or something or taking some money off there or but it depends too what I'm doing for 10 years.

00:32:03.000 Yeah of course you have to like so like it's sort of like that Bitcoin caller that called in the maxi.

00:32:08.000 Well like there's times where you buy Bitcoin where it's really like we were s like I was trying to get people to buy Bitcoin below a trillion dollar market cap.

00:32:13.000 $52,000 and below it went to fifteen thousand five hundred and we were trying to get people to buy fifteen thousand five hundred twenty grand.

00:32:20.000 How much was it last year at this time?

00:32:23.000 For which coin for Bitcoin Bitcoin I remember one time y'all came here when it was really low.

00:32:28.000 Yeah.

00:32:28.000 And we told everybody And people said it's a scale it's a scale by Bitcoin.

00:32:32.000 Yeah it was low and you guys were all fucking freaking out man.

00:32:34.000 Seventy grand I think it was probably seventy grandload what it was.

00:32:37.000 Yeah yeah.

00:32:38.000 Um yeah I I remember that was funny.

00:32:40.000 Uh guys by the way we are going to open up the phone lines for you guys as well.

00:32:42.000 Uh six four six four nine zero zero three nine four is the number to call into the show.

00:32:46.000 I don't know if it's open yet Mo Mo typically waits until to turn it to whatever but we were going to finish um chopping it up with the boys are going to open up the phone lines so you guys could go and ask your questions.

00:32:56.000 So September of twenty twenty four yeah sixty sixty two thousand dollars or 1120 doubled in a year bro isn't that wild and everyone's the Mo this is a bull year for Bitcoin I think because of what he said was you know uh all the stuff with the the rate cuts and then future money printing that that's gonna help us bleed into next year.

00:33:17.000 W would you advise someone um like I mean that we had that hater call on last time would you advise someone to buy Bitcoin at this point or is it like come on at this point bro it might not be worth it.

00:33:26.000 You might want to go into a everything has a use case right so it depends on who you are.

00:33:31.000 Like my why is Michael Saylor so going so hard in Bitcoin because he's already rich.

00:33:36.000 He's already got tons of money.

00:33:37.000 Gotcha.

00:33:38.000 So he just wants to maintain his value over time against the dollar actually increase over the dollar right make sure he doesn't lose his money and then B increase slowly.

00:33:47.000 So he's a lot more conservative in that sense, right?

00:33:49.000 But then why is Tom Lee wanting to buy five percent of all Ethereum right because he knows that's the next one that's basically still cheap.

00:33:57.000 It's like you're buying five thousand five thousand dollar Ethereum is like you're buying maybe you know uh two thousand dollar Bitcoin back in the day.

00:34:03.000 Gotcha.

00:34:06.000 But in terms of the opportunity roughly speaking yeah so buying Ethereum right now at what is it three thousand or something like that is the equivalent of 4200.

00:34:14.000 42.

00:34:15.000 Is it equivalent to buying uh Bitcoin back when you said when it was around one K or so?

00:34:18.000 Yeah like 2017ish?

00:34:19.000 Well what was it?

00:34:20.000 Yeah 2017.

00:34:21.000 2017 around 1000, 2000?

00:34:23.000 And I would say uh well Solana itself, right?

00:34:26.000 That's gonna be a little bit of a wall street chain.

00:34:29.000 Yeah.

00:34:29.000 And so you're gonna have a lot of tokenized assets and real world assets starting to come on there.

00:34:34.000 Now that's a little bit of speculation, right?

00:34:37.000 But the banks are starting to move in that direction because it's the Solana compared to Bitcoin Ethereum is much more centralized.

00:34:43.000 So it has a lot more aspects of what we call Web 2.

00:34:46.000 Crypto is more like Web 3.

00:34:47.000 So the next generation of the Web.

00:34:49.000 Web 2 is kind of what we're used to using now.

00:34:51.000 And so they want to make it easy to use, you know, We have Phantom wallet I don't know if you've ever used that for Solana but when you use that it's like you're using an application for that you're using on your phone now.

00:35:01.000 It's not like you're using a crypto application really because of the ease of use and because Solana's sticking around a lot of the banks are buying into that and starting to build on that.

00:35:11.000 Now we have to see one more four to five year move of Solana building there through the banks and then if that happens then Solana's gonna basically get uh what do you call it crystallized as like your number three uh cryptocurrency that's gonna stick around long term a lot of people in crypto probably don't like that but it's wall street money.

00:35:30.000 Yeah have you heard of the all in podcast?

00:35:32.000 Yes.

00:35:34.000 They're attached to the book David Sachs.

00:35:37.000 Yeah yeah yeah that's that podcast they did it they did a big episode last year when the when they endorsed Trump I remember right so they're all those guys on the show invest into Solana at like a penny basically and these guys are all attached to the Trump administration.

00:35:52.000 You know so it's like we just following the money and they're also pay ex some of them are pay ex PayPal mafia and then some of the and Peter Thiels also back in J D and back to All the all the candidates on the on the right for you know uh vice president.

00:36:03.000 So it's just we're just tracking where the money's going, right?

00:36:06.000 So it's like, all right, so like this one's one of the gilded ones.

00:36:08.000 So this is the stuff that we were looking at when when Solana crashed to like seven dollars, right?

00:36:12.000 We we told our guys let's this let's put some money in.

00:36:15.000 Like I bought a ton at sixteen dollars and stuff just because we were just is are they still backing it?

00:36:19.000 Yes.

00:36:19.000 Okay, let's go.

00:36:20.000 And um just just to gonna make a point, yeah.

00:36:23.000 I think Ethereum is a better buy right now, doesn't mean like if I buy Bitcoin right now and I hold it for 10 years, I'm gonna make money.

00:36:28.000 Tons of money, of course.

00:36:29.000 Regardless.

00:36:30.000 Regardless.

00:36:30.000 But during the short term, during the next couple of years, you know, like uh it it's it's like it's like an example.

00:36:35.000 Like I tried I was gonna say this at Bitcoin Maxi guy when he called.

00:36:38.000 Um imagine like you people always tell people to buy crypto when it's the most high, right?

00:36:42.000 So when when 21, right?

00:36:43.000 Let's just say uh he would he probably like let's just say, Mom, mom, buy Bitcoin, cool.

00:36:47.000 He his mom probably would have bought it in March or April of of 21 for you know, sixty-four thousand, sixty thousand within the next couple months, she was down the entire time, and then around November, she finally got like finally, mom, I'm I'm nine thousand dollars in profit, and then it crashed for another year and some change too.

00:37:04.000 So then the mom and like this is what most people do.

00:37:06.000 They get rolled out and they sell it.

00:37:08.000 Like the time to bought Bitcoin was in 2019 when we were buying it for three thousand dollars.

00:37:13.000 Right?

00:37:13.000 Three thousand to sixty-nine that's where the money went.

00:37:16.000 When us buying fifteen or twenty thousand dollar Bitcoin, now it's like a hundred and thirteen thousand, hundred and fifteen thousand dollars, right?

00:37:23.000 So Ethereum's all time high in twenty one was forty eight hundred bucks.

00:37:26.000 Okay.

00:37:27.000 We're at forty two hundred.

00:37:28.000 Bitcoin's all-time high in twenty one was sixty-nine thousand.

00:37:31.000 So Bitcoin's basically doubled, almost doubled its all-time high.

00:37:35.000 And Ethereum's is right there below its all-time high.

00:37:38.000 So you're buy so if you're just looking at like a value and we're also just like Charlie Blue Charlie was saying here about like Tom Lee, Tom Lee's trying to buy six million Ethereum, which is a five percent of the supply.

00:37:47.000 All these it's all these companies.

00:37:49.000 You can't lose if you got that much.

00:37:50.000 Yeah, it's it's and they're gonna stake it and make a bunch of money with it and stuff like that.

00:37:53.000 And like and Tom Lee used to be the top the top in uh he left he left uh JP Morgan in 2014, but he was basically their top guy, their top macro guy at JP Morgan in 2014.

00:38:04.000 He left, made his own fund and stuff, and he's basically been one of the most in terms of like the last decade, he's been single-handedly the most correct guy when it comes to equities.

00:38:12.000 Like he's like everyone knows.

00:38:13.000 I mean, it's like he's super famous in equities, but well, if that guy's buying a bunch of Ethereum, I think on we're on to something here.

00:38:19.000 That's the green flag.

00:38:20.000 That's what I've been buying, it's just been straight Ethereum.

00:38:22.000 I I you know, I'm slowly picking up a little bitcoin here and there, but like it's just so high now at this point.

00:38:26.000 It's like, you know, are you gonna get the same returns, right?

00:38:29.000 Especially because we're spoiled, right?

00:38:30.000 Like, especially you guys, you guys were buying Bitcoin at fucking when it's just a couple hundred bucks.

00:38:34.000 Meanwhile, me, I'm over here, I'm I'm thinking like, yeah, I'm buying Bitcoin at 3,000, 6,000.

00:38:38.000 This is great.

00:38:39.000 Now it's 120,000.

00:38:40.000 We're like, oh damn, oh no, bro.

00:38:41.000 But here's the other thing though, like, where is it going?

00:38:43.000 One of the things that uh, you know, R.A.P. John McAfee, Mac McAfee said um back in 2017, if Bitcoin hits a hundred thousand dollars, it's definitely going to a million.

00:38:53.000 And that's the reason for that is basically because if it makes a hundred dollars.

00:38:57.000 It was crazy when he said that too.

00:38:58.000 I remember when you guys did that interview.

00:38:59.000 Yep.

00:39:00.000 Oh, yeah.

00:39:00.000 That was a good thing.

00:39:00.000 I remember when you guys did that when you and John did that interview years ago, everyone's like, This guy's fucking crazy.

00:39:05.000 Yeah.

00:39:05.000 Well he was right.

00:39:06.000 Yeah, he was absolutely right.

00:39:07.000 And he he had a controlled craziness.

00:39:09.000 Like uh it was funny when we did that interview.

00:39:12.000 We he said, Oh, I have thirty minutes for you guys, right?

00:39:14.000 We started like 10 or 15 minutes early because he was in the room already.

00:39:17.000 And then we were like, um, what do you call it?

00:39:19.000 We'd we did the whole interview and everything, and then at the very end, which I thought he was just gonna keep going.

00:39:23.000 I'm like, Oh, he's giving us more than 30 minutes, we're going like 40 minutes here.

00:39:26.000 At the very end, he started talking about Kent State, all this stuff, and he started like kind of fake crying, but I thought it was true at the very beginning, right?

00:39:33.000 He's like, You guys, like you kids, you know, you you're protests and stuff, like you you guys are kind of lost and all this stuff, and then he's like, You cry to stuff that he uh hangs up or whatever.

00:39:42.000 We're like, what the hell is that?

00:39:43.000 Like it was the weirdest, weirdest end of an interview ever.

00:39:45.000 But then like I swear to God, bro.

00:39:47.000 I text I like frantically texted his uh wife because she's the one that helped us set up the interview afterwards.

00:39:51.000 I was like, Holy shit, like uh we had a really good interview.

00:39:54.000 I hope he really liked it.

00:39:55.000 Like I I didn't want to make him upset, but like I hope he's okay, right?

00:39:58.000 And she was like, he's having a great day.

00:40:00.000 Like he's just you know, played with us basically.

00:40:03.000 But he's he's a he's controlled chaos, is what I want to say there with John McAfee.

00:40:07.000 But anyways, that hundred thousand dollars, once you hit that six figures, you're gonna make a million because what's he predicted was gonna hit a hundred thousand back then?

00:40:15.000 Yeah, okay.

00:40:16.000 He also predicted.

00:40:16.000 Well, you've been predicting too it was gonna hit a hundred thousand.

00:40:18.000 I mean, Charlie, you've been telling me for years it's gonna hit a hundred thousand and it came true.

00:40:22.000 People thought I was crazy in 2019 when I said Bitcoin is gonna go towards a hundred thousand.

00:40:25.000 People thought I was crazy when central bank digital currencies are gonna come out.

00:40:28.000 I did uh a Web series called uh digital currency wars I talked about.

00:40:33.000 Yep.

00:40:33.000 I mean it's and like all the stuff that we're talking about here, it's starting to happen.

00:40:37.000 And like like you said with um Tom Lee buying a lot of stuff.

00:40:40.000 So uh if you look at um Pantera Capital, they were the earliest fund on DeFi.

00:40:46.000 Yep, they bought a billion dollars of Solana because they know that's where Wall Street's going.

00:40:50.000 Once the bank started buying, it was over.

00:40:52.000 Yeah.

00:40:52.000 Once they they started making ETFs and they started buying, and you know, Goldman Sachs, all these guys started getting into cryptocurrency.

00:40:57.000 They did it secretly, of course.

00:40:58.000 Yeah, yeah, of course.

00:40:59.000 They didn't like make it, you had to go digging in the Wall Street Journal or newspapers to find it, but they were doing it.

00:41:04.000 Um and then you know, we talked about Grant Gondor earlier.

00:41:06.000 Grant Gardon's had crypto forever.

00:41:08.000 He just didn't like publicize it like that.

00:41:10.000 But he's always had uh uh a bunch of uh Bitcoin, but obviously since he's a real estate investor, right?

00:41:15.000 That's what he does, and his whole thing is collecting money from people to do real estate deals, you know, it'd be counterproductive be like, yeah, go buy Bitcoin.

00:41:21.000 Yeah, but he has and his brother, Grant uh Gregory, uh Gary Cardone, yeah, huge into crypto.

00:41:27.000 Yes, huge he's like the crypto guy.

00:41:29.000 He's a crypto guy, he's not a real estate.

00:41:30.000 I don't know if his brother if his I don't know if his brother has to be.

00:41:32.000 You know what's shocking though?

00:41:33.000 Just out to your point.

00:41:34.000 Yeah.

00:41:34.000 At the Bitcoin conference, there were so many athletes there.

00:41:37.000 Oh, yeah, oh yeah.

00:41:38.000 And oh hold on one second here.

00:41:40.000 This is a celebrity function.

00:41:41.000 And they're like, you know what?

00:41:42.000 How do I get into Bitcoin?

00:41:43.000 Yeah, one of them hit up Romus the Yield for a deal.

00:41:46.000 But funny because they're all trying to get into Bitcoin one way or another.

00:41:50.000 You know why?

00:41:52.000 Basically, one of the reasons why that we've found, at least with uh sports players that we've seen, a lot of the ones that come to us initially, they're like the uh guys who only have a few years in the league.

00:42:01.000 Oh, and they get some money, but they're like, How do I keep this?

00:42:05.000 How do I grow it?

00:42:06.000 How do I not end up like you know, Latrell Spreewell?

00:42:12.000 Well, he had a hundred million dollar contract when he was with the Timberwolves or something like that, and he was like, That's not enough money, I need to feed my kids.

00:42:17.000 It's like, bro, like what are you spending?

00:42:19.000 But there's a there used to be a statistic that uh Charles Spree well is hilarious, but he was very good with Kevin Garnett and uh Sam Cassell back in the day.

00:42:26.000 Yeah, yeah, of course.

00:42:27.000 But like uh what do you call it?

00:42:28.000 There's a statistic.

00:42:29.000 This is before five years after the league, something like that, right?

00:42:32.000 Well, like not even that one, but before uh Steph Curry like popularized three point from like way long range, yep, it was a high risk play, right?

00:42:40.000 And so the this is maybe probably late nineties, early two thousands stat, but they found the players basically who were willing to take more three-point shots were a lot worse off financially.

00:42:50.000 Oh shit.

00:42:51.000 Because they had too much risk on their plate, basically.

00:42:54.000 Interesting.

00:42:55.000 And so what you find with those players is yeah, you go down the line and they basically spent all the money.

00:43:00.000 So the best shooters said it'd be terrible with money.

00:43:02.000 Right.

00:43:02.000 Yeah.

00:43:02.000 And so what they and what so what they're doing now, if they're like in the league just a few years, um, like Gronk had a story where he's like, I didn't spend any of my money that I made, I just put it in a bank account and I live frugally.

00:43:13.000 Awesome, smart man, right?

00:43:14.000 He's now he's freaking rich or wealthy, and then uh all these different things.

00:43:18.000 And so like they want Bitcoin and they want to get in this space because they don't want to lose their money.

00:43:23.000 So you know who was headed the curve?

00:43:24.000 Everyone laughed at, said he's blowing money too fast and you won't do well.

00:43:28.000 Odo Beckham.

00:43:30.000 Way back in the day.

00:43:31.000 He actually took a salary in Bitcoin.

00:43:32.000 Yeah.

00:43:32.000 Yeah, he was like he was like, pay me in Bitcoin, and he got it.

00:43:35.000 He did that for like four or five years.

00:43:37.000 Yeah.

00:43:38.000 And he actually put out a tweet uh when Bitcoin hit a new all-time high this cycle.

00:43:41.000 He's like, haha, what are you calling me now, motherfuckers?

00:43:43.000 Because everybody called him stupid when he was doing it.

00:43:44.000 They did.

00:43:46.000 There's also a lineman.

00:43:47.000 There's like a lineman from the Carolina Panthers.

00:43:49.000 I forgot his name, but he was doing the same thing.

00:43:51.000 Yeah, smart guy.

00:43:52.000 Um do you think we'll this early on?

00:43:56.000 But I uh you m you've been pretty good with you uh predicted Bitcoin would hit 100,000 back in 2019.

00:44:01.000 When do you think we'll hit one million?

00:44:02.000 So my oh look, and we probably both have like different opinions on this, but or and do you guys want to open up the phone lines after this prediction?

00:44:09.000 Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.

00:44:10.000 Let's put the chats first and then phone line because they'll be winning for chat. 0.68

00:44:12.000 All right.

00:44:12.000 Uh Bill Mo, you logistically should we open it now?

00:44:15.000 It's up to you.

00:44:16.000 Open it up, just open it up so that way we don't get distracted with the the noise and shit like that, and then we'll have them give their predictions, read chats, and then we'll open up the phone lines so you guys can have time to cycle in and shit like that.

00:44:25.000 As you guys know, the rules are the same.

00:44:27.000 Uh 646 490 0394, uh put the last four digits of your number, and you get to cut the line.

00:44:32.000 Uh, get to have a good discussion.

00:44:34.000 Open QA guys on anything financial.

00:44:35.000 We're gonna try to focus more on cryptocurrency.

00:44:37.000 We got two experts here for you guys.

00:44:39.000 So um, you know, get your questions in.

00:44:41.000 Uh course, we haven't even plugged it yet.

00:44:43.000 It's live right now, guys, uh, for the crypto mindset course for quarter four.

00:44:47.000 Um it closes on Monday, but getting while you guys can, and uh, you know, they're still keeping it at the same price point, 997, which is fantastic.

00:44:53.000 And uh every yeah, with the most people that come in.

00:44:56.000 All of our guys make money.

00:44:57.000 I'm not gonna hold your body.

00:44:58.000 Oh, yeah, I'll make that money back.

00:44:59.000 I would have raised the price.

00:45:00.000 So y'all niggas made it. 1.00

00:45:01.000 Yeah, it by inflation-wise, we probably should have.

00:45:03.000 You know what I mean?

00:45:04.000 But we want to make it affordable.

00:45:05.000 You guys have been literally have the same price point for like four years now.

00:45:07.000 So yeah, we want to make it affordable for people.

00:45:09.000 But to answer your question, right?

00:45:11.000 For uh when does Bitcoin hit a million dollars?

00:45:13.000 So there's a lot of different things that you can do to try to like guess exactly when it's gonna happen and stuff like this.

00:45:19.000 But the first thing that you need to do is uh we kind of explained this on the last show.

00:45:23.000 One of the callers asked, like, uh is the four year cycle broken?

00:45:26.000 Are we going to extend it cycles up?

00:45:28.000 So if anybody has questions about that, go view that.

00:45:30.000 But in my opinion, the four year cycle is still valid, it will still continue to be valid for quite a while.

00:45:34.000 Um it's not only just because of Bitcoin's supply shock with the having, but it's also due to basically uh global liquidity cycles.

00:45:42.000 Um that's really the one of the reasons that's uh pushing that.

00:45:45.000 But so if you go by that, you got 2029 as candidates for the top of the cycle, right?

00:45:49.000 2029, 2033, 2037, 2041.

00:45:54.000 These are the candidate years of it hitting a million.

00:45:56.000 Exactly.

00:45:56.000 By 2029, 2033, 37, 41, four years apart every single day.

00:46:02.000 Gotcha.

00:46:03.000 Okay.

00:46:03.000 Four years from now, it's 2029, right?

00:46:05.000 If it hit a million in 2029, I would be shocked.

00:46:08.000 Yeah.

00:46:09.000 It would be amazing.

00:46:09.000 Right.

00:46:10.000 I think we can take it though.

00:46:11.000 I'll fucking all.

00:46:13.000 Send it.

00:46:13.000 Oh, that'd be amazing.

00:46:15.000 But uh, I think that's pretty highly unlikely.

00:46:17.000 I think we get into the multiple hundreds of thousands, very four six, four hundred, six hundred, you know, somewhere in there.

00:46:22.000 Yeah.

00:46:23.000 Very comfortably.

00:46:24.000 Excuse me.

00:46:25.000 Uh very comfortably, and that just kind of, you know, is what people get used to.

00:46:29.000 And then they're like, okay, well, now that it's like comfortably, let's say like $300,000 in 2030 or something, okay.

00:46:36.000 Well, that's only a three X to get to a million.

00:46:38.000 This is very possible, right?

00:46:39.000 Yeah.

00:46:39.000 And then when you get to 2033, that's your first realistic candidate in my opinion.

00:46:43.000 Maybe 2032, you can argue, where you could get Bitcoin hitting a million.

00:46:47.000 2037, I think it's probably inevitable by that point.

00:46:49.000 So that's within 12 years.

00:46:51.000 And if it's not, if it's slower than what we expect, for some reason there something happens and there's like a a tripping point or something, then 2041 at absolute latest, in my opinion.

00:47:01.000 That's that's pretty late in my head though.

00:47:02.000 Yeah, it is pretty late.

00:47:03.000 Yeah, so it's possible in 29, but it's it's m so it just depends, like so yeah, the farther we get along, right?

00:47:08.000 Is the United States gonna be in more debt?

00:47:09.000 Is the world gonna have to do it?

00:47:10.000 So within 15 years.

00:47:11.000 Yeah.

00:47:12.000 Yes.

00:47:12.000 Within 15 years for sure.

00:47:13.000 Yeah, it seems it's gonna be it's gonna be a million dollar asset.

00:47:16.000 Wow.

00:47:16.000 And and actually C Z uh from Binance, right?

00:47:19.000 He had said recently, he said if you have point one Bitcoin, that will be the cost of an average house um in the 2030s, basically.

00:47:27.000 So what if 10% of a Bitcoin of Bitcoin?

00:47:29.000 10% of a Bitcoin.

00:47:30.000 So if you're thinking your average house is like half a million dollars, that's five million dollar Bitcoin.

00:47:33.000 So that's $13,000 right now.

00:47:35.000 Wow.

00:47:35.000 If you buy $13,000 of Bitcoin in 10, 15 years, you could probably buy a house at the end of the 2030s.

00:47:40.000 That's how much it goes because once it goes expanding once the governments are actually like printing money to buy Bitcoin, the numbers are gonna start going crazy.

00:47:47.000 Yeah, you know, it's interesting because like if you have like one if you got like a whole Bitcoin right now, it's like, dude, hold on to that thing forever.

00:47:54.000 As much as you can.

00:47:55.000 Absolutely.

00:47:55.000 If you hold it long enough, you can literally but depending on one you bought in, you could take a part of it, buy a house cash, live in it, and then boom, like a majority of your spending, because most people uh spend most of their money on on on housing and then a car, right?

00:48:10.000 You get one thing taken care of.

00:48:11.000 Could you imagine not paying a mortgage or rent?

00:48:13.000 Yep.

00:48:14.000 Well, and what people are also gonna do now owning it outright?

00:48:17.000 Yeah, well, people are gonna be able to do now too because banks are getting so heavily involved with digital assets and crypto because they have to, right?

00:48:24.000 They're gonna start allowing you to borrow against your Bitcoin.

00:48:26.000 Yes.

00:48:27.000 Right.

00:48:27.000 So if you're not around that right now, some b some people at the high level.

00:48:32.000 The very high level.

00:48:33.000 Some people already borrow right now getting loans on their Bitcoin.

00:48:35.000 Oh yeah, you could absolutely find somebody who'll do that, but like it's not common, right?

00:48:39.000 It's not common.

00:48:40.000 Like you don't go down to like it's not conventional like a bank of America where they're gonna start doing that, but you guys predict within the next 10 or 15 years, it's gonna be a common thing.

00:48:48.000 You go in a chase, hey, I got this much Bitcoin, I want to borrow against it.

00:48:50.000 Sure, we'll give you a loan on that.

00:48:52.000 Right.

00:48:52.000 28, 29, that's you'll be able to start going into certain JP Morgan branches like private client.

00:48:56.000 You'll be able to do that.

00:48:57.000 So they're doing HELOCs on your on your house.

00:49:02.000 Also, people are buying cars with Bitcoin as well.

00:49:04.000 Yes.

00:49:05.000 Oh, yeah, Bitcoin.

00:49:06.000 Yeah, you can find like you not used, but like there's certain dealerships that will take Bitcoin or uh it's mostly in the used kind of luxury market.

00:49:12.000 There's there's like smaller players that like, yeah, we'll take tether, we'll take crypto, Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, and then we'll sell you cars.

00:49:19.000 Um that's gonna become much more in the next four years, like 28, 29 is where you're gonna start seeing this a lot.

00:49:24.000 Uh, but you'll be able to come into so like as an example, if you let's just say a big like if you depending on on the branch of like JP Morgan or what some of these big banks, you could come in as long as you can show proof that you bought it and stuff.

00:49:35.000 I could go into a bank with a huge bar of gold and they would give me a loan on it at like the lowest interest rate possible.

00:49:41.000 So you'd be you're gonna be able to go into JP Morgan with like one Bitcoin on a flash drive as an example, deposit it there or send them to their wallet, and then they'll give you like a two percent, depending on the interest rates, they'll give you like a two percent loan on that for whatever terms you want.

00:49:53.000 Well, we had a guy walk into dealership.

00:49:54.000 Yeah, and uh he pulled up his phone, showed us his portfolio for crypto, and got a car on a spot.

00:49:59.000 Yep.

00:50:00.000 Beautiful.

00:50:00.000 Yep.

00:50:00.000 I was like, wow, yeah, that's fucking dope.

00:50:02.000 And I bought relics.

00:50:03.000 Yeah, the proof for a loan right on the spot.

00:50:05.000 Bro, the the guy that owned the dealership was like, get him a deal.

00:50:07.000 Yep.

00:50:08.000 Instantly.

00:50:08.000 So he saw him.

00:50:09.000 Wow, what's money was in there?

00:50:11.000 So yeah, this is gonna be more and more common.

00:50:12.000 And and then and think and think about this too, is like if you start selling you're selling depreciating assets for crypto, especially if it's Bitcoin or Ethereum, if you keep that like just like Grand Cardone, like he got his first Bitcoin from uh there's this guy who uh the this crypto convention that was gonna pay my speaking, right?

00:50:27.000 I think it was sixty or a hundred thousand dollars for the speaking engagement for a crypto convention.

00:50:31.000 He went and they asked him, Hey, could we pay you in Bitcoin instead?

00:50:34.000 And he's like, never say no to money.

00:50:36.000 Yes, do it.

00:50:37.000 So he took it, they paid him in big that's when Bitcoin was oh my god.

00:50:40.000 I mean, it must have been a hundred, maybe three hundred dollars.

00:50:43.000 It was very cheap.

00:50:44.000 He got a ton of that that was a m very intelligent decision.

00:50:49.000 Well that's when people are calling Bitcoin Chucky Cheese money, not real, you know, it's in the ether.

00:50:53.000 They're saying the same thing now, right?

00:50:55.000 About Ethereum, Solana.

00:50:57.000 And it's just like, you know, all you really have to do in crypto is look at the history of both money as well as what's crypto what has happened in crypto so far.

00:51:05.000 And we do often in the crypto mindset course, we teach our guys like what is the actual history of crypto because by the time we get past uh 2030, it's gonna be such a complex industry.

00:51:15.000 A lot of people are gonna have a hard time remembering that stuff.

00:51:17.000 Well, there's no other way you can get this rich this fast.

00:51:20.000 Correct.

00:51:21.000 If you're gonna hedge against like speed and time, I don't know what other class you could put money into return.

00:51:27.000 Yeah, no, we do have to remind people there's always one in the four years, there's one bad year, right?

00:51:32.000 Like 21 is bad.

00:51:33.000 It is bad.

00:51:34.000 So 21 ends, 22 happens.

00:51:37.000 You know, most cryptos zero or they're down 95%, and you know, Bitcoin Ethereum are maybe down 75%.

00:51:43.000 Then it recovers, and then we're back on the grind basically to go back up and hit new all-time highs, right?

00:51:48.000 So it's just people have to remember that bad year.

00:51:50.000 This is why it's also kind of it's kind of cool for us because people start saying it's a scam.

00:51:53.000 Thank you.

00:51:54.000 Because we get to we get to buy all these coins cheap and buy low.

00:51:56.000 Sell high.

00:51:57.000 I mean, that's what it is.

00:51:58.000 But we do keep crypto for the long term.

00:52:00.000 Yeah.

00:52:01.000 So um, let's do some chats in the phone lines.

00:52:04.000 Yeah, phone lines are open right now.

00:52:05.000 646490934.

00:52:07.000 If you guys want to call the 03894, uh put the last four just remember to cut the line.

00:52:12.000 Mo's uh got you guys up in the queue right now.

00:52:14.000 Uh what do we got here?

00:52:18.000 Well, comedy skit.

00:52:21.000 Okay, here we go.

00:52:22.000 And uh, we got woman propaganda coming in for tonight, guys, gonna be a good show. 1.00

00:52:25.000 Um Don't speak Muslim, so boost to 2025. 1.00

00:52:27.000 Okay, appreciate that.

00:52:28.000 I can't pull out.

00:52:29.000 Um, I started my console with you in March 2021.

00:52:32.000 I got in the course from Miguel and Charlie, despite being the uh buying the top I held and I'm up now.

00:52:37.000 This will be my fifth course.

00:52:38.000 Uh FNF shout out to the crypto micro.

00:52:41.000 Shout out to you.

00:52:41.000 Come on.

00:52:42.000 Come to shout out to you.

00:52:45.000 Shout out to you, bro.

00:52:45.000 Glad that you're still uh killing it.

00:52:47.000 Um here's a little example, uh a few days before the dip, and uh now they up another 250k ETH.

00:52:53.000 So these are the largest companies.

00:52:55.000 These are the largest companies who are acting, these are treasury companies and uh entities within Ethereum that have been adding to their supply.

00:53:02.000 So that's Tom Lee's you yeah, so Bitmine right there, that 2.1 uh million ETH, that's Tom Lee's, right?

00:53:08.000 Sharplink gaming, that's uh Joseph Lubin, who is the head of uh MetaMask and Consensus.

00:53:13.000 And then there's the Ethereum Foundation, then there's this little thing called Pulse Chain right next to Coinbase.

00:53:17.000 You know what's hilarious about this?

00:53:18.000 This is actual like uh verifiable data, right?

00:53:21.000 And what you'll see most people in crypto do, especially the Ethereum maxis, they will take this list and they'll want to show it because it's really good and useful information, but then they will wipe out the pulse chain site.

00:53:33.000 And a couple of the other ones down there as well.

00:53:34.000 And a couple of the other ones because competition.

00:53:37.000 People that are not in their sphere of social influencer, yeah, their tribe, right?

00:53:43.000 So it's one of these things where it's like um it's just funny for me to to watch this because people in crypto sometimes they do fight against each other a little too much, and it's like you know right now, like back before 2020 or from 2021 and before, this tribalism actually did help the projects because they were competing to kind of see like who can kind of create the best tech stack and build on top of that.

00:54:04.000 Now that we have most of that, it's actually more beneficial to have the collaboration.

00:54:09.000 Charles Hodgkin of Cardano actually has mentioned this quite a lot uh in crypto.

00:54:13.000 If you see projects that actually work together, you can bridge liquidity between projects.

00:54:18.000 Now the the risk for that is they think okay, if the liquidity goes over there, it'll never come back.

00:54:23.000 But at the end of the day, if you have more usefulness, more utility between these different chains, they're gonna get use more money while coming.

00:54:29.000 Can you pull that list up again one more time?

00:54:30.000 Just because I want to say something.

00:54:32.000 I just think it's better overall if crypto companies start working together more.

00:54:36.000 So Bitmine is trying to get so they have two, they have 2.1 uh million Ethereum.

00:54:40.000 They're trying to add another four million.

00:54:42.000 They want six million total, that's five percent of the supply.

00:54:44.000 They will do it.

00:54:45.000 Sharp link is also adding crazy, and we're just gonna soon soon enough start getting uh certain other Wall Street companies that are converting themselves over into treasury companies for Ethereum.

00:54:53.000 Uh this is why we're really bullish on Ethereum and and just Bitcoin too.

00:54:56.000 But Bitcoin started this.

00:54:58.000 Bitcoin was the first one to do this, and look what the Bitcoin supply did.

00:55:01.000 Like I said, it's a printing press.

00:55:02.000 This is why I would this is another reason I was telling that Bitcoin Maxi that called on the last show.

00:55:06.000 Well, it's like you you're allowing Tom Lee, this VC to buy up all the Ethereum.

00:55:11.000 This bullshit, this is why Ethereum's a scam.

00:55:13.000 But it's okay, it's okay for it.

00:55:14.000 Michael Sarah has three percent of all Bitcoin, right?

00:55:16.000 Right.

00:55:17.000 But it's okay for you know Sailor to do it, right?

00:55:19.000 It's okay for these other entities to do it.

00:55:21.000 That's okay.

00:55:21.000 When it's this is the my main problem.

00:55:23.000 This is what we teach our guys not to become these maximalists because it it's basically if you're not buying my religion, you're not buying my team, you know, you're against me.

00:55:31.000 Are you you're drinking 13 beers with me or against me?

00:55:35.000 You know, and that's that's how people are, you know.

00:55:37.000 Like, I mean, as much as I don't like XRP or any of these other coins, like if I can make money on it, I'll make money on it.

00:55:41.000 You know, I I think XRP is going to go up because guess what?

00:55:44.000 They're there's gonna be a treasury company coming up that to buy XRP.

00:55:47.000 They have an ETF that just went live.

00:55:50.000 It's going to go up.

00:55:51.000 But Dogecoin just got another ETF today.

00:55:54.000 Which I called.

00:55:54.000 It's called T Dog.

00:55:55.000 T Dog, man.

00:55:56.000 And then G Dog too.

00:55:57.000 G Dog is coming in.

00:55:58.000 Yeah, G Dog is going too.

00:56:00.000 Wow.

00:56:01.000 And no one believed like that, like just like Charlie kind of predicted a lot of these Bitcoin prices.

00:56:04.000 I was the earliest guy when it coming out saying about these ETFs.

00:56:07.000 I was telling people there's gonna be a Bitcoin ETF this cycle.

00:56:09.000 Ethereum ETF.

00:56:10.000 And then people are like, okay, I believe that.

00:56:11.000 There's gonna be XRP.

00:56:13.000 What?

00:56:14.000 You can go back to some of the old shows.

00:56:15.000 We we were on.

00:56:16.000 I was saying I was saying there's a dogecoin ETF.

00:56:18.000 And I said these are the four most likely ETFs to happen this cycle.

00:56:22.000 And people didn't believe it.

00:56:23.000 Now they've all happened already.

00:56:25.000 A couple years later down line.

00:56:26.000 It's it's Charlie Miguel don't miss.

00:56:28.000 Shout out D Dog.

00:56:30.000 What's the next one?

00:56:33.000 And if one lines.

00:56:35.000 Also, um, guys that are watching on my kick, we're gonna move over.

00:56:38.000 We're gonna end my stream here soon and then go to we've got like 200 of you guys watching over on my kick.

00:56:42.000 Uh I know a lot of you guys don't even know that we do have a fresh and fit um kick uh channel.

00:56:48.000 So I'm gonna drop it in my kick right now for you guys uh that are watching over on my side.

00:56:52.000 So you guys can um you know come on over.

00:56:58.000 Yeah.

00:56:58.000 We're gonna get Chainlink ETF, we're gonna get a Solana ETF.

00:57:01.000 That the Avax one, the Avax, Avax and Um and uh Solana are the really big hyped ones right now because Solon obviously that's all that's where all the mean coins are and stuff like this.

00:57:12.000 But Avax is mostly kind of doing more of the government side, kind of, it seems like to me.

00:57:17.000 And then Solana is obviously the government, the bank and government where like Solana is more of like retail buyers plus like Trump administration VC side and stuff like that.

00:57:26.000 But it's but it's been the most popular one, so it's gonna do really well.

00:57:29.000 Like, you know, we can get it.

00:57:30.000 That's I'm not saying like in the next month, but like eventually, you know, Solana could go like 420, maybe six, eight hundred dollars.

00:57:37.000 That's totally possible.

00:57:38.000 Don Pepe in the building.

00:57:40.000 Don Pepe, that's right.

00:57:41.000 I can't pull out again, says we need Charlie Miguel to hit the pose for the OSS.

00:57:45.000 Oh yeah.

00:57:49.000 Yeah, they caught me with the salute.

00:57:51.000 Yeah.

00:57:52.000 Yeah.

00:57:53.000 Sharpshooter.

00:57:54.000 What coins should I buy right now?

00:57:56.000 And how long should I hop?

00:57:57.000 Hmm, good question.

00:57:58.000 So let's give a couple different recommendations, all right?

00:58:01.000 So I I'm gonna go with uh let's go with super simple, and then let's go with like okay, you're going in a little bit harder in the paint, right?

00:58:09.000 So the super simple one is Bitcoin and Ethereum.

00:58:11.000 Yeah.

00:58:12.000 How long should you hold?

00:58:13.000 Well, anything in crypto right now.

00:58:14.000 It depends on like why are you buying it?

00:58:17.000 Are you buying it just to have a savings that you're gonna hold there for 10 years, or are you going to try to maximize it and you know grow it up?

00:58:25.000 Build it up, um, do cultivate crypto basically, right?

00:58:28.000 Um, so let's do the the first one where you're just gonna buy and hold.

00:58:31.000 You could buy you buy Ethereum and Bitcoin as much as you want any day of the week.

00:58:35.000 Um, I think who was it?

00:58:36.000 I think it was uh Arkinvest Kathy Woods, her son, um, is just buying uh a big grip of Bitcoin once a month, is doing that basically until uh you know he's into his working age, or I don't know how old he is exactly, but uh until he's quite a bit older.

00:58:51.000 And so you could do that for like 10 years, sit on it for the rest of your life, sell it, borrow on it, do whatever you want.

00:58:57.000 That's perfectly fine, right?

00:58:58.000 If you want to maximize it this cycle, then I would say probably before next spring, right?

00:59:05.000 Buy whatever coins you want now that you think are gonna be successful, but let's say Bitcoin Ethereum, then probably take profits on them between now and next spring, and then buy back again Q4 of 26 or Q1 of 27.

00:59:17.000 Simple.

00:59:18.000 So you basically do a couple moves there.

00:59:19.000 Some people are able to pay attention to that long to be able to do that, some people aren't, right?

00:59:23.000 Some people want the easy strategy.

00:59:24.000 So that's a simple one.

00:59:26.000 Um Solana, I would say, right now is a really good coin to buy.

00:59:30.000 The other one, the one that I like right now, just because the chart is like looking like it's gonna break out no problem once Bitcoin gets back above 125k, is uh Avax.

00:59:38.000 I mentioned that on the Friday stream as well.

00:59:40.000 So you buy AVAX under 35 dollars, the next price targets it's gonna go to this cycle, most likely are 60, 90, and possibly 120.

00:59:50.000 Yeah, before and that's even if it doesn't make a new all-time high, it can hit those levels.

00:59:54.000 And if it does make a new all-time high, it might be a few hundred bucks.

00:59:57.000 And so that one within the next few months, I think is a little bit further down the totem pole.

01:00:02.000 And so for that reason, you make a little bit more money, you outpace Bitcoin Ethereum by a little bit more.

01:00:08.000 Um, and then you kind of have to understand crypto a little bit more to really get into that one.

01:00:12.000 So those are pretty safe options.

01:00:14.000 And then time to go degenerate.

01:00:16.000 Um but now like there's there's a thing, it's like where I am in the market versus someone brand new, right?

01:00:22.000 Like me, right?

01:00:23.000 Like I've already bought in kind of all the majors already cheap already.

01:00:26.000 So for me, when I'm using my dollars keyword, I'm using my my my dirty fiat to buy crypto.

01:00:31.000 I'm looking for the best value.

01:00:32.000 I'm looking for like you have to invest like a man, not like a woman. 1.00

01:00:35.000 A woman wants to buy all-time highs, they want to fuck the winner, right? 1.00

01:00:39.000 Everybody wants to buy Bitcoin when Bitcoin, like if they say Bitcoin crossed $200,000 to say, Miguel, Charlie, do I buy Bitcoin right now at $200,000?

01:00:47.000 Dog.

01:00:47.000 You should you you have to buy you have to buy it when you have to buy it when it's the race is just starting.

01:00:52.000 We're in there in last place.

01:00:53.000 That's where you buy it.

01:00:54.000 You can't like this is a big thing.

01:00:56.000 People always want to buy it when it's green, when it's all time highs, which is wrong.

01:00:59.000 You like investing like you can't invest like a female. 1.00

01:01:01.000 You have to invest like a man, you have to make these investments. 1.00

01:01:04.000 So I look at like dogs as an example, because like I've already got my Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, I've got these positions already locked in now.

01:01:11.000 I'm looking into buying Avax as and pump just yet.

01:01:14.000 I'm looking to buy AVAX very underrated.

01:01:16.000 Yeah, it's very on it.

01:01:17.000 It's just starting to kind of break out now.

01:01:19.000 Yes, just now.

01:01:20.000 So we as well as Suey's another one, yeah.

01:01:22.000 Yep.

01:01:23.000 So those are those are super safe majors.

01:01:24.000 They got ETFs coming on the way.

01:01:26.000 Now there's like something like a Sonic, right?

01:01:29.000 Sonic's at its all-time low at 25 cents right now.

01:01:31.000 It's going to get listed on the NASDAQ.

01:01:33.000 They're they're building a US corporation, but all this stuff takes time, and there's a bunch of drama in the community.

01:01:38.000 Good.

01:01:38.000 I love buying blood in the streets.

01:01:40.000 So I'm buying four for a dollar right now.

01:01:41.000 If it goes to 20 cents or 16 cents, like the phantom all-time low of last cycle, then I'll buy it at 16 cents.

01:01:46.000 So I'm willing to do a like two more investments.

01:01:49.000 One more 25 cents, 24 cents.

01:01:51.000 And if it crashes below, like if it goes down to 16, I'll buy there, and then I've got my bags packed.

01:01:56.000 Then pulse chain stuff, I've got it backpacked already.

01:01:59.000 You might buy a little more e-hex and stuff just because it's cheap on Ethereum and there's gonna be like ETH maxies or just people that don't want to bridge in, they'll just buy that.

01:02:06.000 There's um then there's meme coins and stuff, but that's just super speculation stuff.

01:02:10.000 So guys, real quick, um, on my kick, we're ending it real fast.

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01:02:19.000 So come on over and watch on um Fresh of Fit.

01:02:22.000 I know a lot of you guys don't know, but yes, we do have a fresh fit kick account.

01:02:25.000 We don't really promote it like that, but we do have a fresh fit kick account.

01:02:28.000 So come on over um and watch over there if you guys you know are somewhere where you can't watch or YouTube either or but come on over kick.com slash fresh a fit.

01:02:35.000 I've spammed it in the chat for you guys.

01:02:37.000 I'm gonna end the Myron Gaines X one right now.

01:02:38.000 Bill's gonna end this, so come on over guys.

01:02:40.000 Sorry, also with that just that information alone.

01:02:42.000 You guys heard from Charlie Miguel, you can make a lot of money.

01:02:45.000 Just that alone.

01:02:45.000 Without any course, anything.

01:02:47.000 So that's a real value there, fellas.

01:02:48.000 Stick to the stuff that's gonna have ETFs or treasury companies.

01:02:51.000 That's a safe one out.

01:02:51.000 So if you're gonna get off of the Bitcoin Ethereum reservation, you buy the stuff that's like Solana, AVAX, Chain Link.

01:02:59.000 You buy stuff that's going to have treasury companies and ETFs.

01:03:01.000 That's institutionalized basically.

01:03:02.000 Yes, the safe that's a safe way.

01:03:04.000 Anything else, you're you're more risk, more rewards, but it could just totally backfire.

01:03:09.000 The only issue I could see is that I won't know when to sell.

01:03:12.000 Someone just look watching this for the first time.

01:03:13.000 Oh, I'm gonna buy this this coin, but I don't know when to sell, which is why you need a course.

01:03:17.000 Yeah.

01:03:17.000 Yeah, this is why we structure our business this way too, right?

01:03:20.000 So we have our our crypto mindset course, which uh if you don't know about this stuff, you have to get that first.

01:03:26.000 Um just because it's like the the boot camp to crypto and like it'll really get you going, right?

01:03:31.000 Um, but then after that, like we have guys who take maybe two courses a year, they've been with us for a while, and then the other group that we have is called the Citadel, it's just like our monthly group, kind of like you guys have Castle Club.

01:03:41.000 Um and that at least, you know, people if they need to take a little time off or whatever, that at least keeps them kind of up to speed.

01:03:47.000 So we make sure to uh give that group a lot of information as well as on, I mean, hell, if people just watch our YouTube, right?

01:03:53.000 Uh Cultivate Crypto and Dollar Cost Crypto, um, they're gonna get tons of this information for free um as well.

01:03:59.000 But in October, we'll be dedicated only to the course, so we won't be doing YouTube.

01:04:03.000 But between now and the end of this month, um, just like we're coming here and talking to you guys, we're gonna be talking a lot about this stuff going into the end of the year.

01:04:10.000 Yeah, because we're gonna be we're gonna be taking care of our guys to like the end of the year and making sure that like look, there's gonna be a local top.

01:04:15.000 There's gonna be it could be it could be in October, could be November, where we're gonna get like the Bitcoin top for the year.

01:04:21.000 Doesn't mean the cycle's over, but taking some profits there, making sure cash on hand.

01:04:25.000 And if it it is confirmed, oh shit, the cycle is over, you know, we sell out of everything else, and then we try to buy the Bitcoin bottom, but very likely because of all the money printing, drone pal getting replaced in in uh May of tw uh May 12th.

01:04:38.000 Um these the the money printing that's gonna happen through the overnight repo market um and all and all those kind of indices there.

01:04:44.000 Um basically the market could continue to keep going up, as well as we're heading into uh into an ICO season.

01:04:50.000 We're having a lot of the largest crypto exchanges go public in 2026, early 26.

01:04:55.000 We're having more ETFs.

01:04:56.000 Like we're still we're we're not in October yet, but we still have a ton of ETFs that haven't passed yet.

01:05:01.000 So we're about to go through a whole ETF boom that's still going on.

01:05:04.000 And on top of that, we have a lot of companies that want to do treasuries.

01:05:07.000 That means convert over them or like either add crypto to the treasury of like their main company or become like a company that only buys one crypto.

01:05:14.000 It's happening even for Litecoin, believe it or not.

01:05:16.000 There's like a hundred million dollar company from Charlie Lee that's uh there's gonna be buy a hundred million dollars of Litecoin.

01:05:21.000 Another, I think there's a I think uh yes or no today there's it was announced.

01:05:24.000 So we have a company that's buying a billion dollars of Avax.

01:05:27.000 Another one just got announced today of another 500 million dollars of Avax that's gonna be purchased.

01:05:32.000 So now there's like 1.5 billion dollars of buying pressure for what?

01:05:37.000 For Avax now.

01:05:38.000 Uh Crow tokens gonna have multi-billions of dollars of purchasing power coming from mostly the Trump administration and and World Liberty Fi.

01:05:45.000 So the Crow tokens at 22 cents right now, too.

01:05:48.000 So that's a decent token to buy.

01:05:49.000 So you just try to look like if you're and there's new uh new coins coming out, actually.

01:05:54.000 Um Bitfinix is coming out with a coin in the next one week uh called Plasma, which is gonna be a brand new layer one.

01:06:00.000 And if Bitfinix is doing something, right, it's something to pay attention to, they're gonna try to eat a little bit of lunch uh from Tron's plate.

01:06:07.000 Um we got all sorts of stuff always happening.

01:06:10.000 Brand news.

01:06:11.000 Cardano will do well as well every quarter.

01:06:12.000 Cardano's gonna have an ETF too we got any more?

01:06:15.000 646490394.

01:06:17.000 Put your last four um donate with the last four and cut the line.

01:06:20.000 Let's hit the phone lines because we haven't talked to anybody yet.

01:06:23.000 And it's already 10 o'clock.

01:06:24.000 We'll be on probably guys for like another 30, 40 minutes or so.

01:06:27.000 Um Woman Propaganda's gonna be here in a little bit. 1.00

01:06:30.000 We're gonna uh have an after hours with him, it's gonna be entertaining.

01:06:32.000 It's gonna be only on Rumble and Kick and you know, X and everything else like that.

01:06:38.000 So uh make sure to tune in there.

01:06:40.000 Dion.

01:06:40.000 We no longer do after hours.

01:06:41.000 I know you guys are brought.

01:06:42.000 Myron, where's all the after hours?

01:06:43.000 It's all on kick and rumble only, guys.

01:06:46.000 Also Twitter, but we cut those streams and we go to only rumble and kick at the end.

01:06:49.000 So um who's up next?

01:06:51.000 Or sorry, the phone lines.

01:06:53.000 Yeah.

01:06:54.000 Yes.

01:06:54.000 All right.

01:06:55.000 Uh who is it who's called let's get them on.

01:06:58.000 And then yo, tell us where uh your name and where you're calling in from and how old you are.

01:07:02.000 All right.

01:07:03.000 One four four eight, you're up.

01:07:05.000 One four four.

01:07:06.000 Shout out to three diglits.

01:07:08.000 Um, can you hear us, bro?

01:07:12.000 Um who is who's calling?

01:07:13.000 Yeah, I love get them on.

01:07:14.000 Yeah, okay.

01:07:15.000 Um, yeah, we can hear ourselves in the back.

01:07:16.000 Just mute the phone or TV or whatever you're listening to.

01:07:21.000 I'm calling in from Florida.

01:07:22.000 Okay, what's your name?

01:07:23.000 Giovanni.

01:07:24.000 Giovanni.

01:07:24.000 Okay, Giovanni Tony from Florida.

01:07:26.000 All right, cool.

01:07:26.000 What's your question?

01:07:28.000 Yes, my question is about the course.

01:07:30.000 I just yesterday paid for it.

01:07:32.000 And um I went on the telegram, and I'm putting my information, but I didn't get any response back to know if I'm officially in the course or not.

01:07:39.000 Yep.

01:07:40.000 So the process for that is basically when you buy the course within twenty-four hours, uh you should get an email um that's from us support at cultivate crypto.com or Charlie at cultivate crypto dot com.

01:07:52.000 So double check your spam and promotions uh inbox uh in your email because sometimes it gets filtered out into there uh in some email services.

01:08:00.000 If it's not in there, then just send us an email, support at cultivate crypto.com, say hey, I paid.

01:08:05.000 Here's uh you usually get a receipt from PayPal Stripe or whatever service you bought it from.

01:08:09.000 Give us that and say, Hey, uh, I haven't received this yet, and then you'll you'll get the telegram link uh there.

01:08:15.000 We have uh basically uh what do you call it?

01:08:17.000 One of our assistants on it.

01:08:19.000 So um he's working hard every day, so he'll get that as soon as you get that to him.

01:08:22.000 But uh yeah, once you're in there then um you'll have uh access to the whole chat and you'll be able to prepare for everything.

01:08:29.000 We already have some uh resource links pinned at the top of that chat that uh tell you like stuff about wallets and different ways to custody coins and all that stuff.

01:08:36.000 Yeah, and uh download Twitter if you don't have it already, because we're gonna give you guys like uh ways to research on Twitter and Instagram and stuff like that for crypto.

01:08:43.000 But we'll we'll we'll have we'll teach you in the course.

01:08:45.000 There diglits.

01:08:46.000 Aside from XRP, Abox is the best buy right now.

01:08:48.000 That's for everything in Telegraph.

01:08:50.000 Oh.

01:08:50.000 Say it again.

01:08:52.000 Everything is gonna be in Telegram.

01:08:54.000 Everything's gonna be in Telegram.

01:08:55.000 You're gonna get two you're gonna get a link to the regular chat, and then another one's called the Links Chat, which is gonna give you like all the official videos and like official announcements, and then every day you should just check the the the top of the telegram chat if we as well pin some information, a stream, or basically the s the schedule, because uh we have the schedule up already.

01:09:11.000 All right, perfect.

01:09:12.000 Thank you guys.

01:09:13.000 No problem, brother.

01:09:15.000 Uh screen real quick for them.

01:09:16.000 We should actually.

01:09:17.000 Uh, you could pull it up real fast.

01:09:19.000 We can read the chat while Mo pulls it up.

01:09:20.000 But so uh Digglet's child to you for supporting the show, brother.

01:09:26.000 Abox is the best buyer right now.

01:09:28.000 Their subnets is white companies want to get involved with them. 0.70

01:09:31.000 FIFA built FIFA collects on their blockchain with the World Cup coming up in twenty twenty-six.

01:09:36.000 Food for thought.

01:09:36.000 Yeah, the there's shit actually.

01:09:38.000 The technology on Avex is incredible.

01:09:40.000 Like we've been in it since last year, uh something since uh the last cycle.

01:09:44.000 Uh we had a lot of video game companies jump in and use subnets and they worked flawlessly.

01:09:48.000 Basically, you can you could have a coin that doesn't that that isn't an L1, just move over, create a subnet on Avax, and then basically you like their meme token or I'm surprised more memes don't do this actually.

01:10:00.000 You can make like your own meme chain and use like Dogecoin as an example as the gas token for it and stuff like that, and then you bridge in and stuff like that.

01:10:07.000 It's it's it's been used really well.

01:10:08.000 What about pump fun?

01:10:09.000 I think they get a lot of creators on their platform streaming live.

01:10:13.000 Okay.

01:10:13.000 Shout out to the trenches, man.

01:10:15.000 Shout out to the trenches.

01:10:16.000 Yeah, so uh shit.

01:10:17.000 So Pump Pump Fun, Pump Pump.tv and sub they so pump fund uh started a streaming service kind of like like a kicker rumble as an example.

01:10:24.000 Yeah.

01:10:24.000 And they had to shut it down real quick because people were essentially torturing people on there, shooting guns at people.

01:10:30.000 Uh like I'm gonna like I'm gonna I'm gonna hurt this person in a cage if we don't you don't put out fifty dollars in this coin.

01:10:35.000 Like they're so it got shut down, now they cleaned it up.

01:10:38.000 Because you had you had crazies on there.

01:10:39.000 You had crazy people doing horrible things in there and then wow uh yeah, and then uh late and late nineties internet.

01:10:45.000 It was it was insane.

01:10:46.000 It was absolutely insane.

01:10:47.000 It was like straight up live leak.

01:10:48.000 Like so people are in their c you know, you had the E thoughts and you had regular crypto bros and then you just had crazies.

01:10:53.000 Like people like if the coin goes to a million market cap, like I'll start shocking this dude in a cage.

01:10:59.000 And of course they're friends and stuff, but then there's w there's videos that came out that started going like, Oh, wait, th this is starting to look like torture or weird.

01:11:06.000 Like there's a lot of weird stuff going on.

01:11:09.000 Um, and that's where all the memes like, are you new to the trenches?

01:11:12.000 Are you new to the you know, dude missing teeth, hair fucking fried, like peanut butter over his fucking fake just craziness, right?

01:11:18.000 So now they've cleaned it up, you know.

01:11:19.000 Um now you have guys like Gainesy and Gainesy's kinda like one of the top guys on like pump.tv and stuff like that.

01:11:25.000 He's uh streaming on there, he's from uh I think he's in Thailand.

01:11:28.000 Um and you know, you're starting to have like kind of like Twitter celebrities launching YouTube channels but on that website and stuff to basically make meme coins and just kind of talk stuff and everything like that, and they're getting paid in tokens and stuff, but you also are gonna have that for radium, which is like bonk dot fund and you have Jupiter as well.

01:11:46.000 So you kind of have like now there's like a three legged race now.

01:11:48.000 Uh because beforehand, like I was not the biggest one of p uh biggest fan of pump.fund because you know them boys own it and all they were doing is they were taking them basically they made a billion dollars in fees and they were just dumping Solana.

01:12:00.000 So Solana would be way higher in price.

01:12:02.000 But every time they would make money, they just kept selling the Solana into cash.

01:12:06.000 You can literally see it.

01:12:07.000 Like they would just send money to Binance or this or Coinbase or Kraken, and they were just consistently dumping Solana the whole way up.

01:12:13.000 So Solon Solana could have very easily been a hundred dollars higher if you didn't have these guys just consistently dumping Solana the entire time.

01:12:20.000 Wow.

01:12:21.000 But we wouldn't have had the mean coin run without them either.

01:12:23.000 So it's kind of like, but you know, usually if you're a crypto company, you sell like you could have taken a hundred million dollars and had that for your treasury, but instead they, you know, they took almost like 800 to like a billion dollars of of funds, and now like because there's competition now through Radium, Bunk Fund, and like Jupiter, um, they're like they're now they just did a hundred million dollar buyback on their token, which doubled the price, and they're now like they feel the sweat now.

01:12:45.000 So now they brought back their streaming service.

01:12:47.000 So it's sort of like we're in the rumble kick wars right now, in like um, along with like there's basically a streaming work going on right now.

01:12:53.000 Wow on Solana.

01:12:54.000 Um guys, um, as you guys know, of course, also is up right now, join the crypto mindset course, man.

01:12:59.000 It's uh only 997, bro.

01:13:00.000 You'll be able to get in there and you'll make your money back immediately.

01:13:03.000 Um it's gonna do you kind of want to explain the schedule to them real quick before we get in the next caller.

01:13:06.000 Sure.

01:13:06.000 You want to pull it up?

01:13:07.000 Yeah, we can.

01:13:08.000 There we go.

01:13:09.000 There you go.

01:13:09.000 Um, make it big.

01:13:10.000 There we go.

01:13:11.000 So um, this is the schedule for the Q4 crypto mindset course.

01:13:14.000 Uh the webinars will begin on October 2nd.

01:13:18.000 Oh, my birthday.

01:13:18.000 That's fine.

01:13:19.000 Oh, it's there.

01:13:20.000 Happy birthday.

01:13:20.000 Yeah, we didn't do a Zoom call uh bowling on budget.

01:13:23.000 Yeah, yeah, we have one, yeah.

01:13:24.000 Yeah, definitely.

01:13:25.000 Yeah, we get we have bonus webinars that we're gonna do.

01:13:27.000 Return on flex.

01:13:28.000 We get return on flexibility.

01:13:29.000 Return on flex in one of those.

01:13:31.000 Perfect.

01:13:32.000 But um, yeah, so we begin on October 2nd, 10 a.m. and 10 p.m. is Eastern Standard Time.

01:13:37.000 So that's 7 a.m., 7 p.m. uh Pacific standard time.

01:13:41.000 And uh each webinar is roughly about uh three hours in total.

01:13:45.000 Um, and we have about two hours of that focused on the main subject and one hour of QA.

01:13:50.000 Um, and there's a there's a mixture of that depending on each webinar.

01:13:53.000 But we're starting there with a customized orientation.

01:13:57.000 So we want everybody to, as soon as they buy the course, um, to be put in the chat immediately, um, start talking with people, start figuring out uh like the different tools that they need to set up and everything like that.

01:14:07.000 And we're gonna start polling the group and asking them questions uh about you know, where are they in their crypto investment strategies?

01:14:14.000 Uh, where are they with their knowledge base, like all this different type of stuff?

01:14:18.000 And we're gonna customize a lot of the information that we give to the people that are taking the course this time around.

01:14:24.000 So um, this is a lot more what do you call it, easier to do with a lot of the AI technology that exists today.

01:14:30.000 It's something that we haven't been able to do before.

01:14:32.000 And so we're gonna it's not that we're changing everything that we're teaching here, where it's just that we're customizing it to the situations of people that are in the actual course.

01:14:40.000 And then uh uh so we're gonna ask a lot of questions in there, we're gonna give a lot of answers to people's questions in there.

01:14:46.000 Then we're gonna do the Q4 thesis, which we do this every quarter, which is what do we think is gonna happen in crypto over the next three months, and then how does that affect um the move possibly into next year?

01:14:58.000 Uh so we go through uh a lot of different kind of war gaming type scenarios in there.

01:15:02.000 You know, what's the most likely scenarios?

01:15:04.000 What are the other possible scenarios and how do we hedge our uh situations against them?

01:15:10.000 Uh then we have the risk management and security webinar.

01:15:14.000 So this one we have uh at this point for two reasons on October 3rd, and we do two days on, two days off.

01:15:19.000 So we you see the second and third there, then we have the fourth and fifth off, and then we go back on the sixth and the seventh.

01:15:24.000 So risk management we put there before we get into a lot of you know the top 50 uh coin list portfolio strategies and stuff, because a lot of people go all in on one coin or they do stuff that we absolutely do not recommend, and then they get angry about it at some point in the future, right?

01:15:43.000 Because they didn't take self-responsibility on the risk that they created for themselves.

01:15:47.000 So we want to make sure that everybody watches this webinar before they we get into like, hey, here's what coins are good and stuff like that, so they really understand that.

01:15:55.000 Also, um, it's not very often, but every once in a while, somebody will make a mistake with their own security.

01:16:00.000 We talk about, you know, making sure you don't have one central point of failure, making sure all your money is not on a centralized exchange.

01:16:07.000 You want your own wallets that you hold in self-custody of the coins yourself, right?

01:16:10.000 So we're gonna go over that security, uh kind of security one oh one in crypto, and you know, make sure you do these best practices so that you don't get screwed.

01:16:18.000 And one just one thing on that security part because like please do not use ledgers.

01:16:22.000 Correct.

01:16:23.000 Um, we've just found that people have gone there's all been a lot of hacks with people that have ledgers, and for the love of God, if anyone calls you or you try to every calling people, support lines fake.

01:16:35.000 Everything's fake.

01:16:35.000 If someone emails you, tells you you have to call this number, it's fake.

01:16:39.000 There's no real okay, there is a real number, but it's no, you're not gonna call it's it's no.

01:16:44.000 There's they're not gonna be able to get your money back.

01:16:46.000 There's just you get you're gonna get scammed, or they use they like a let a lot of the ledger data.

01:16:50.000 So people were using ledger, you know, some people have their house information, their names and stuff, you know, logged into some of some of these websites, it all got leaked, and scammers know that information.

01:16:59.000 They're also looking on the dark web, and then from there, they're just they they can get they call you saying, Hey, we're from Ledger or we're from this organization here.

01:17:07.000 You call them, you give them information, and then boom, you they jack you and they they steal all your money out of a bunch of wallets and stuff.

01:17:13.000 So and this is still happening today.

01:17:15.000 Um, so like I've you know, I really recommend Trezor, of course, but you know, we're gonna have safety uh we're gonna have like that safety class is gonna be really really important.

01:17:23.000 But once you figure once you know how to do the safety, it it's it is it's pretty simple.

01:17:27.000 I've seen the scam where they text you from Coinbase saying lies.

01:17:31.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:17:31.000 All like any text, no, don't believe it.

01:17:33.000 Text an email, unless I literally just went to Coinbase and I deposited $30,000, or I just bought a a hundred dollars of a coin and you get an email and you're saying, hey, your your purchase of a hundred dollars.

01:17:42.000 All right, cool.

01:17:43.000 I just did that, right?

01:17:44.000 But if you just get, hey, somebody withdrew a hundred thousand dollars from your account and you're like, dude, I don't got a hundred thousand dollars, you know, it's fake, right?

01:17:50.000 Or they play games or they're like, Whoa, um, someone just try to withdraw $15,000 from Coinbase, and it's like, well, and then you're like, what the hell?

01:17:57.000 Or someone just uh initiated a $15,000 purchase of a coin, though let's say Solana, Bitcoin, Ethereum, and then never click an email link.

01:18:05.000 Look, email links are being they're fishing.

01:18:08.000 They're they're used for phishing.

01:18:09.000 No one's gonna call you.

01:18:10.000 Don't don't believe uh if you would like I need I need MetaMask support fake.

01:18:15.000 If literally there's algorithms and there's AI bots that if you type in um MetaMask support, you'll get DM'd to buy like 30 accounts all pretending to be like, hey, I'm from MetaMask, let me help you.

01:18:25.000 It's you know, you're giving your money to a fucking Indian. 1.00

01:18:27.000 Like I'm serious, I'm not even lie.

01:18:29.000 Like or some guy from Bangladesh and shit. 1.00

01:18:30.000 Like it's just Asia or Southeast Asia and stuff like these are just you fucking scummer the earth scammers.

01:18:35.000 This is it.

01:18:35.000 It says your coin based withdrawal code is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:18:41.000 Please call us now for immediate action.

01:18:43.000 Yeah, please call us.

01:18:44.000 So you call them, please call us.

01:18:45.000 It's a scam.

01:18:46.000 Coinbase is so notorious.

01:18:50.000 They would never expect you to call them.

01:18:51.000 Yeah, um, okay, so let's uh let's knock out as many of these phone calls, guys, because we got a lot of people on the line still.

01:18:56.000 Yeah.

01:18:56.000 Um all right.

01:18:57.000 Um, who's up next?

01:18:59.000 All right, next eight, six, five, three, you're up eight, six, five, three.

01:19:04.000 What's your name?

01:19:04.000 Where are you calling in from?

01:19:06.000 Yo, can y'all hear me?

01:19:07.000 Yep.

01:19:09.000 Uh my name's Feek.

01:19:10.000 I'm from uh Atlanta.

01:19:12.000 I'm 18.

01:19:13.000 Cool.

01:19:13.000 All right, that's your question, bro.

01:19:16.000 I've been in the crypto mindset course Q3.

01:19:18.000 I was gonna ask Charlie McGill.

01:19:20.000 Um, what do y'all targets for if y'all were to open like say a fresh account?

01:19:26.000 Um, how many X's would you think you would get by the end of Q4?

01:19:30.000 I know you said um three X's for Q3.

01:19:33.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:19:34.000 Oh, sorry.

01:19:34.000 So I'm just gonna give Avax as an example because a lot of the times when you look at some of the top layer ones, they'll give you kind of a benchmark for where things can go.

01:19:43.000 So if we look at Bitcoin, Ethereum, and AVAX, just uh or and Solana as like maybe three or four examples, right?

01:19:49.000 So Bitcoin, could it be uh lower by the end of the year?

01:19:54.000 Sure.

01:19:54.000 Could it be higher?

01:19:55.000 Sure, right?

01:19:55.000 But let's go with a scenario that um we pump higher because a lot of the data is basically telling us that with ETFs, uh uh rate cuts and all the things.

01:20:04.000 Treasure companies, everything, right?

01:20:05.000 So there's more money coming into crypto than there is supply, so the price usually goes up.

01:20:09.000 So uh the projections for this year, let's say uh we we think about Bitcoin.

01:20:14.000 So Bitcoin could get up to about 150 to 180,000.

01:20:18.000 Could it go higher?

01:20:19.000 Sure, but those are realistic targets.

01:20:20.000 Then if Bitcoin hits those levels, Ethereum goes towards about 7500 to $8,000.

01:20:26.000 Um, this is also the target for standard chartered bank.

01:20:29.000 Um that is top end, by the way.

01:20:31.000 Yeah, within this year, right?

01:20:32.000 Yeah, top end.

01:20:33.000 Uh and next year, we uh we do think we're gonna bleed into Q1.

01:20:36.000 So uh I think we could actually go higher than those prices by the end of the bull market, but you're talking about within Q4.

01:20:42.000 Uh so that's kind of your benchmark, and then you want to base what you have uh for possibilities of all their stuff, right?

01:20:47.000 So Solana, I would say 420 to maybe 500 by the end of the year is something that could happen.

01:20:53.000 Of course, none of these uh are guarantees.

01:20:55.000 This is just possibilities.

01:20:56.000 And then Avax, right?

01:20:58.000 Either 60 or 90 dollars um is very, very likely if Bitcoin gets back above 125 or 130,000.

01:21:05.000 So if you kind of look at that, right, for Ethereum, that's not quite a 2x for Bitcoin, that's that's less than that.

01:21:12.000 Um, but for Solana and Avax, it's like a two or three X. So those are kind of like the safe moves that you can see.

01:21:18.000 Something like Pengu, I think within the quarter, it might not end the quarter this high, but within the quarter, um, it could get towards 10 to 12 cents, maybe 11 cents, something like that.

01:21:29.000 Um, it's like three and a half cents right now, so that's about a four X. And so then when you go further down the risk curve, right, you get more X possibilities.

01:21:36.000 But I would say But the risk goes up.

01:21:37.000 Right.

01:21:38.000 The risk goes up massive.

01:21:39.000 And you need and you need what the the if the here's the what ifs with like a pengu or like uh a uh uh a sausage party or like a bonk is that you need Solana to break its all-time high.

01:21:49.000 So like some these coins will do really decent, but without Solana going past $300 and hold so once Solana goes to $300, $330, $400, then it's oh shit, it's Solana season, dog.

01:22:01.000 It's meme season, and then these coins speculation-wise bonk will go up a lot on Solana, you know, you will have uh, you know, nobody sausage go up, you'll have um you know Pengu go up, which is one of the better coins, and you can make a lot of multiples on that.

01:22:14.000 But if if Solana doesn't do that, then that doesn't happen. 1.00

01:22:18.000 And then you're like, oh fuck, this quarter's wasted, goddamn it.

01:22:20.000 You know, so I I think on an average, you know, anywhere between a two to a five X for most coins is realistic.

01:22:26.000 Um and so like if you're getting gains of about like a three or a four X, right?

01:22:31.000 Take your original out of that, um, take the profit there, even if you think it's still gonna go up into next year, um, secure that money so that way you know you're playing more with casino chips.

01:22:40.000 But um, yeah, there's there's really good possibilities in Q4.

01:22:43.000 If you look at Q3 versus Q4, Q3 was really good, right?

01:22:46.000 We had a good time, we made some X's.

01:22:48.000 Um nobody's sausage is really good.

01:22:50.000 There's a lot of other stuff.

01:22:51.000 But um Q4, if you look at uh returns on Bitcoin and crypto uh overall year on year, Q4 is uh almost always the best quarter.

01:23:00.000 Yeah, and someone said right here, like Bonk's ass.

01:23:02.000 I would have agreed with you, but I have to just be real.

01:23:05.000 Like the the they have a partnership with with Radium now.

01:23:07.000 Radium's one of the top exchanges on Solana.

01:23:10.000 Um they're working with World Liberty Fi.

01:23:12.000 They're the uh now uh radium have radium is essentially fusing their like their version of like pump.fund with bonk dot fund, and there's also gonna be a crow investment.

01:23:22.000 So now you have basically Trump administration, crypto.com with crow token, you have you have radium and then bonk.

01:23:28.000 So now you have you know uh uh basically a four-pronged sort of like thing on this meme coin.

01:23:34.000 So it's like, well, there's enough, there's enough here, and on top of that, you have um this is the first coin I've seen that has this uh so far.

01:23:40.000 I think it's turtle, I think it's turtle capital or uh two tel capital.

01:23:44.000 Um they're launching a levered ETF for for bonk.

01:23:48.000 I I think it's a two or three X levered as well as like an income version of it as well for Litecoin, uh, Avax and uh Bonk.

01:23:55.000 I that's the first time it's happened.

01:23:57.000 And so it's so I'm seeing okay, there's gonna be an ETF coming out for it.

01:24:00.000 There's now the trend the kind of World Liberty Fi is behind it, now crypto.com is behind it, and on top of that, now Radium's partnership with it.

01:24:07.000 So I'm like, okay, there's enough smoke there that I'm willing to take a shot on it to try to make some money.

01:24:11.000 You see, not going blinding.

01:24:13.000 Because I think I thought for real, I like I think Bonk was pretty ass too.

01:24:16.000 But now with all this, it's like I'm I mean, fuck it, let's take a shot.

01:24:20.000 But you have to, but you have to be willing to take that risk and stuff, and then but at the same time too, if Solana just shits the bed, then no no five, you know, if Solana doesn't cook, then it then everything else doesn't cook.

01:24:31.000 All right.

01:24:31.000 Orange management.

01:24:33.000 I you got one more question real quick.

01:24:36.000 You think that Suey would be on around the same level uh as Sonic by the end of Q4?

01:24:41.000 I got a lot of Suey.

01:24:42.000 That was one of the main things I took away.

01:24:44.000 Yeah, from the Q. I think if you look at the Suey chart, it's much more coiled up.

01:24:48.000 So I think it'll actually probably do better within the quarter by the end of the cycle, it might be a little different.

01:24:52.000 But um, yeah, so he's my my main target on Suey once it breaks back above about four dollars and fifty cents, and especially once it gets to a new all-time high, uh, is it's baked in going towards ten bucks as long as Bitcoin's all-time high is not in this cycle.

01:25:04.000 Yeah.

01:25:05.000 And that that's one of the main things that we teach in the first four webinars of the crypto mindset course is that Bitcoin and Ethereum are our thermometers.

01:25:13.000 If they're if like Bitcoin or Ethereum are going down, everything else isn't cooking.

01:25:16.000 Nothing's cooking, basically.

01:25:18.000 Only stable coins are cooking.

01:25:19.000 Yeah, right.

01:25:20.000 But if we have Bitcoin and Ethereum pumping up and they're chilling, or or Ethereum starts going up like crazy Ethereum, the the number I've been looking for Ethereum for a long time, and guys know this.

01:25:27.000 I've been saying this for fucking six months, fifty-two hundred dollar Ethereum.

01:25:31.000 Once we're at fifty-two, we're we're within four hundred dollars higher than then the all-time high in 21.

01:25:36.000 That means Asia, because Asia always bought higher, the kimchi premium.

01:25:41.000 In America, we hit 4800 on average, most, you know, Europe, Asia, and stuff like that.

01:25:45.000 But um, but out out in like Korea, Japan, and some of these other, they paid up the nose, and then they are all-time highs like in the in the five in the low five thousands.

01:25:52.000 So once we're at fifty two hundred dollars sustained, then you start having a lot of L1s and L2s running up because Ethereum is like tied to liquidity pools and DEXs to everything.

01:26:02.000 Um, as well as like right now, the number one risk play right now is like Aster, right?

01:26:06.000 It's the Aster Liquid, you know, like you have hyperliquid versus Aster, which is Binance versus essentially Ethereum, in a way.

01:26:12.000 Like there's kind of a uh Joseph Lubin connection there now as well with like uh they just had MetaMask swaps are not gonna allow it with hyperliquid, and because you have to it's this shit's like gang warfare.

01:26:22.000 I'm not even lying to you.

01:26:22.000 You have to look at like who's who's on what gang, right?

01:26:24.000 There's there's there's a Binance click, which is the eight was the Asian boys out of Singapore, and then you've got Joseph Lubin, and you got basically PayPal Mafia, you know, Trump administration mafia, and then you've got the the the Ethereum boys, and then you got the Solana VCs, which also are in bed with the Trump administration.

01:26:40.000 Hey, don't forget T Dog.

01:26:42.000 T Dog, yeah, T Dog.

01:26:43.000 And seriously, but you have to learn we this is we teach you guys all this stuff because they're there the because this game has been now in a it's a game of like the big dogs basically, large uh organizations.

01:26:53.000 You have to see who's clicked up with who.

01:26:55.000 And like now, hyperliquid's basically clicked up with the Ethereum Foundation.

01:26:58.000 That's why recently Binance started dumping a ton of Ethereum recently to basically fuck over hyperliquid because hyperliquid allowed you to short Aster now.

01:27:06.000 Astor said, fuck you guys, we're gonna let we're gonna allow you to short hyperliquid now.

01:27:10.000 So it's bloods versus credit in the crypto game.

01:27:14.000 All right.

01:27:14.000 Um who's up next on the line?

01:27:17.000 Shots arc lightning with the 20 gifted on Robo.

01:27:19.000 Thank you so much, bro.

01:27:21.000 Dumb goes.

01:27:23.000 Guys, we are gonna be doing after hours here pretty soon.

01:27:24.000 I think we're gonna go live at around 11 o'clock.

01:27:26.000 Um propaganda should be here very soon.

01:27:29.000 I know some of the girls walked in. 1.00

01:27:31.000 Um, so that's gonna be hilarious if you guys don't follow him on Instagram.

01:27:34.000 Me and him did a bunch of clubs.

01:27:35.000 We'll probably do some more as well while he's here in town in Miami.

01:27:37.000 How dare you?

01:27:38.000 So um, yeah.

01:27:40.000 Who's um who's up next?

01:27:42.000 Five five four three.

01:27:43.000 You are up five, five, four, three.

01:27:46.000 You are up.

01:27:48.000 Hello?

01:27:50.000 Yeah.

01:27:50.000 Can you uh give us your um name and where you call from?

01:27:54.000 Uh I'm Brown.

01:27:55.000 I'm from South of Virginia.

01:27:58.000 All right.

01:28:00.000 I just had a lot of questions.

01:28:01.000 I'm still like a beginning, so I wait.

01:28:03.000 How are you, bro?

01:28:03.000 Hold on.

01:28:04.000 How old are you?

01:28:05.000 I'm 20.

01:28:06.000 All right, cool.

01:28:07.000 Good age.

01:28:08.000 Um, hit us with your most important question, bro, because we got a lot of people on the line, man.

01:28:11.000 Yeah, I'm just saying.

01:28:12.000 Uh so one of my most important questions is like, where's what app should I get for Bitcoin?

01:28:16.000 Right now I have the crypto.com app.

01:28:18.000 Okay.

01:28:18.000 But like it doesn't like load into the app itself.

01:28:22.000 Like I put my email and everything in it.

01:28:23.000 That just cannot constantly loads.

01:28:27.000 And you're in the States, right?

01:28:29.000 Yes.

01:28:30.000 So the simplest app if you're just trying to buy some Bitcoin Cash App, probably the easiest way to buy Bitcoin is through Cash App.

01:28:35.000 To buy it, but don't hold it there.

01:28:37.000 But don't hold it there, yeah.

01:28:37.000 But like it's okay to leave it there in the beginning because you're learning.

01:28:40.000 Yeah.

01:28:40.000 But uh the easiest exchange startup that I've had.

01:28:43.000 Uh I mean, it's it's basically Coinbase is the easiest to set up.

01:28:46.000 Coinbase app.

01:28:48.000 You can yeah, Coinbase, really easy.

01:28:49.000 They the JP Morgan, like they're real, they're partners with JP Morgan.

01:28:52.000 So if you have a JP Morgan account or Bank of America, it's quick like that.

01:28:56.000 Um Cash Apps, really good.

01:28:57.000 PayPal's another another one you can use as well.

01:28:59.000 I wouldn't recommend Robinhood really, but like because it's kind of hard.

01:29:02.000 Uh from there, uh we we always recommend our guys to get four apps.

01:29:07.000 You know, crypto.com, Gemini, Kraken, and Coinbase.

01:29:12.000 But Coinbase is the easiest one.

01:29:13.000 It's they take time to set up.

01:29:15.000 It takes time to set up everything, but we always tell people the Coinbase account will be fast, cash ups really fast as well, and then you could but CashUp only sells Bitcoin.

01:29:23.000 Okay.

01:29:23.000 Yes, I already have a two cash up.

01:29:26.000 Uh I just don't use it because like uh I got crypto.com and I thought I was gonna show more of like Ethereum, crypto, and all that other stuff.

01:29:34.000 So I just went to that.

01:29:35.000 Yeah, they're just having those last seconds.

01:29:37.000 Yeah, they're both fine.

01:29:38.000 I'd be buying on either one, but uh like let's say if let's say you buy like five thousand dollars worth over the next you know two years, right?

01:29:47.000 Um or even just over the next few months, whatever you're gonna buy, right?

01:29:50.000 If you want to self-custody it, one of the easiest self-custody wallets is Exodus wallet.

01:29:54.000 Yeah.

01:29:55.000 If you download to like let's say you have Cash App or Crypto.com, doesn't matter which one you buy it on, buy it on there.

01:30:00.000 Once you want to self-custody, the first self-custody that you can do really easily is Exodus wallet, move your Bitcoin over there.

01:30:07.000 It doesn't really matter where you get it as long as you can move it to somewhere that you control it.

01:30:10.000 Yeah.

01:30:11.000 Or trustwallet, trustwallet's pretty good as well.

01:30:13.000 Yeah, trustwallet's great.

01:30:14.000 Yeah.

01:30:14.000 Okay.

01:30:15.000 And I got one last question.

01:30:16.000 My last question is I'm trying to get in the course right now.

01:30:19.000 Um just in case I can't.

01:30:21.000 When we move the next time, uh when will uh next post be open?

01:30:25.000 Next year.

01:30:26.000 Next year.

01:30:27.000 Yeah.

01:30:27.000 So we're we're literally gonna take care of the guys from basically the uh October all the way into it, possibly even February.

01:30:33.000 I mean, we might not even launch a course until February or something like that.

01:30:36.000 So like uh we're we're we're trying to like help people manage this really delicate part of the cycle.

01:30:41.000 A lot of people think that Bitcoin like the tops in the top's gonna be in and basically now or within the next month.

01:30:47.000 And we we truly believe that you know it it's gonna continue on into twenty six and stuff like that.

01:30:52.000 So but we're making sure to like protect everyone to take some profits, you know.

01:30:56.000 Okay, and one last small quick question.

01:30:58.000 Uh brother, we gotta move on, bro.

01:31:00.000 We gotta move on.

01:31:00.000 All right, who's next?

01:31:02.000 Appreciate it, man.

01:31:02.000 So we got you, but join join the course, brother, and you know, we we'll we'll take care of you.

01:31:06.000 He's 20 years old, man.

01:31:08.000 He's gonna kill it.

01:31:09.000 I I love when the guy like 18, 18, 20, 20, anyone under 25, man, you're good, you're cooking at that age, like financially.

01:31:15.000 And so it's very smart.

01:31:16.000 Very smart.

01:31:18.000 All right, next four six three seven, you are up four six three seven.

01:31:24.000 All right.

01:31:28.000 Uh hello.

01:31:30.000 Yeah.

01:31:32.000 Hey, what's up, Charlie Miguel?

01:31:34.000 Um appreciate the time.

01:31:36.000 Shout out to you guys.

01:31:37.000 Um calling from Massachusetts.

01:31:39.000 I'm right next to Northeastern Myron, by the way.

01:31:41.000 Um but uh I got a quick question regarding um Sonic.

01:31:45.000 Um I have a big allocation into it right now.

01:31:48.000 Um I done my research, I looked into ecosystem earlier behind um uh Andre Frontier and everything like that.

01:31:55.000 Yeah.

01:31:56.000 Uh my question is uh do you see it reviving?

01:31:59.000 Um considering flying tulip and you know, the USA um collaboration and everything like that.

01:32:06.000 I I definitely do that's why I'm gonna I'm I'm basically going to make a DCA pretty soon at it's basically at it the all time low right now, the cycle low on this coin at twenty-four or twenty-five cents.

01:32:15.000 And then I've said if it does crack below it, the next level would be probably like sixteen cents, and it I think it's gonna get pretty much maintained there.

01:32:22.000 Um it could be that right now the lows in right now, and then we're gonna start going up.

01:32:26.000 But yeah, all these things are gonna take time, so it's gonna be like October, November, December into January to get all the stuff up and running.

01:32:32.000 But yeah, they're they're they've essentially cr uh allocated like fifty million dollars to set up their brand new headquarters of Sonic in New York to get compliant.

01:32:40.000 They're going to try to get a Nasdaq listing.

01:32:43.000 And uh with the new regulation on ETFs, it's very likely we might actually get a Sonic ETF before the end of 26.

01:32:49.000 So there's a lot of bullish things.

01:32:50.000 Uh they've also raised a lot of money.

01:32:52.000 I think they're uh raising another 40 million dollars for flying tulip.

01:32:55.000 Um, which you have to have like a million dollars to get in minimum, just FYI.

01:32:59.000 But um, but flying tulip is basically the third r rate.

01:33:03.000 So it's just like how we said, like there's kind of always three like there's always like three entities always, like kind of like pump dot fund, bonk dot fund, and then whatever ju uh whatever Jupiter's doing.

01:33:13.000 Nothing.

01:33:14.000 Um, but basically there's always kind of like three players, right?

01:33:17.000 So you we're gonna have three players in the game.

01:33:18.000 We have hyperliquid, Aster, and Flying Tulip.

01:33:21.000 These are gonna be the three largest kind of perp dexes, like um, and basically uh which which is basically it's a decentralized exchange where you can long and short at like really fast speed and stuff like that.

01:33:31.000 So um flying tulip, from what I've heard, is basically helping um a lot of the other competitors as well.

01:33:40.000 So there's like the there's a lot of collaboration there.

01:33:42.000 So like I'm still trying to figure out even myself is are they allying themselves with warm with Binance?

01:33:47.000 Because that's what I've been hearing.

01:33:48.000 But at the same time too, I know that the f the uh Sonic organization is really highly tied to the Ethereum Foundation and Get Lab.

01:33:54.000 So like why wouldn't they help out Hyperliquid as well?

01:33:56.000 So it's like what we're um so I think it's really w a good.

01:34:00.000 Uh I think um I think when it launches, it could bring in like a billion dollars of TV L over to Sonic, but they're going to launch on multiple blockchains.

01:34:06.000 So flying tulip is gonna launch on like on uh Solana, I believe, and then from there it could possibly go maybe even go into Avax and uh I don't think base protocol because they're competitors, but I think they're gonna launch on multiple places, Arbitrum possibly, and um there's just this big there's just gonna be this big game to basically set up these perp, these kind of decentralized perp dexes, pretty much.

01:34:26.000 So um we're gonna see.

01:34:28.000 We're gonna enter we're good, we're gonna right now it's kind of the two, it's Binance versus kind of Ethereum OGs, and we're gonna get like flying tulip jumping in.

01:34:35.000 like i personally wish that flying to have launched earlier like it would have been nice if it launched before aster basically but but right now if you look on twitter and stuff aster is a fucking piece of shit that doesn't work because the hyper liquid guys say so but like it's performing really really well but then people then the hyper liquid guys are saying that aster's dog shit because it's been around for two years and then it just rebranded and just casisi pumped it and stuff i mean it's so funny to watch everyone cope and stuff because like now now uh hyper liquid isn't pumping anymore and arthur hayes just sold his entire supply so

01:35:03.000 like it's it's straight up warfare right now and uh uh the thing is I don't I don't doubt CZ is the crime lord he is the most one of the most powerful people in crypto and um don't you don't fade C Z man always have probation four more months baby four more months.

01:35:18.000 All right.

01:35:19.000 So I'm still bullish on Sonic but like I like have my backs packed I'm just making my final DCAs and I'm just willing to take the risk basically so I like I'm buying here at 24 cents 25 cents and I'll buy if it goes lower I'll buy one more time that's it I'm not putting no more capital pretty sure I guess no problem brother.

01:35:40.000 All right yeah who's up next yeah shout out to Tom Lee next up we have six eight three six you're up six eight three six you are up uh my name is Misha I'm from Idaho and my question is uh to Charlie do you still think that Bitcoin's gonna hit 200,000

01:36:00.000 dollars at the end of the year GG baby and then um do you how can you tell when something's gonna completely dump and something's just gonna hit their all time low like for instance Sonic.

01:36:14.000 Yeah that's a good question.

01:36:15.000 Lows are easier than highs I'll tell you that much.

01:36:17.000 Yeah.

01:36:17.000 Um so just in terms of Bitcoin right so the the background with my bet with GG is that um last year uh or maybe no it was June of 23 he was on our podcast in Vegas uh both me and Miguel uh we're chilling with him he's a good guy and um what do you call it he was saying Bitcoin's never gonna hit 100,000 The banks won't let it.

01:36:38.000 There's no way possible.

01:36:38.000 And I was like, just sit back, wait.

01:36:40.000 Okay, okay, okay.

01:36:42.000 You want to bet on that, sir?

01:36:43.000 And he said, hell yeah, let's bet on it.

01:36:45.000 What do you want to bet?

01:36:45.000 I said, I got the videos too.

01:36:47.000 We got the videos.

01:36:48.000 20K, 20K.

01:36:49.000 Okay, great.

01:36:50.000 And what he was betting was Bitcoin wouldn't hit $100,000, I said, by November of 2025, which is what, in a month and a half.

01:36:59.000 And it hit that in December of 24.

01:37:01.000 So about a year, almost a full year early.

01:37:04.000 And Gigi, man of his word, we were at dinner with Myron and Miguel, me.

01:37:09.000 Everybody, yeah.

01:37:11.000 Yeah, everybody.

01:37:12.000 What was that guy's name, the UFC fighter?

01:37:14.000 Oh, Jake Shields was there.

01:37:17.000 Yeah, we were having a good time.

01:37:18.000 It was in Vegas, right?

01:37:19.000 And Gigi was like, hey, good job on the bet. 0.95

01:37:23.000 Here you go.

01:37:23.000 So he paid me that.

01:37:24.000 And he said, but would you like to double down?

01:37:26.000 And this was about, you know.

01:37:27.000 He parlayed you, dude.

01:37:31.000 Right, he parlayed me.

01:37:32.000 He did get the $20,000 he cashed.

01:37:34.000 He did get the $20,000.

01:37:35.000 No, absolutely.

01:37:35.000 I had him sent it to me in Ethereum.

01:37:37.000 Yeah.

01:37:37.000 But what do you call it?

01:37:39.000 Excuse me.

01:37:40.000 Sorry, I have a cold right now, so I'm trying to get over that.

01:37:44.000 But anyways, so he said, okay.

01:37:48.000 He's trying to put it in his favor.

01:37:49.000 Like, we had had a few beers and stuff.

01:37:51.000 And he's like, okay, Gigi, what parameters do you want?

01:37:53.000 And I said, my only parameter is whatever I'm going to bet is going to be by the end of 2025, December 31st.

01:37:59.000 I get the whole calendar year.

01:38:00.000 I ain't doing like November or some bullshit like that, right?

01:38:03.000 And he said, same bet, $20,000, that Bitcoin won't hit $200,000.

01:38:07.000 uh or I said uh like I said I wanted to do 180 but he wanted to do 200 and then he upped it at some point to 205.

01:38:14.000 I'm like all right all right we'll we'll stop there I was like is it possible sure do I actually think Bitcoin's gonna hit 205,000 within this year personally I actually think I'm probably gonna lose the bet.

01:38:23.000 So you know shout out to GG uh I'll pay you the 20k this uh January 1st you know it's all good um so it's kind of a funny bet so I think Bitcoin's much more uh much more likely to hit um between about a hundred and fifty to a hundred and seventy five K somewhere within that region my I was thinking I would have bet easily on 180k by the end of this year.

01:38:45.000 Um by the end of the cycle though actually if we do get a speculative crazy blow off top um we could hit somewhere like you know uh 210 220 250 250 is my absolute like okay if we get a quarter million dollar bitcoin every bitcoin OG in the world is gonna be massively selling their bags and so we're probably not gonna get beyond there and that would have to mean we we basically pump into next spring so end of Q1 or beginning of Q2 next year.

01:39:10.000 So um that that's kind of the background there.

01:39:12.000 In terms of tops and bottoms, we actually have a uh course extension if you join this crypto mindset course called the Take Profits course, um, where we give you tons of on chain data that we've been collecting here since 2022 about how to spot tops.

01:39:26.000 So I mean is we got literally uh like six, seven webinars um to describe that.

01:39:32.000 So uh I would say get in the course to to jump on that.

01:39:35.000 In terms of bottoms, right?

01:39:37.000 Uh if you understand time and then a few different metrics, like um I'm trying to remember the name off the top of my head.

01:39:45.000 Uh, but there's uh if you go into what used to be look into bitcoin.com, I think it's Bitcoin Magazine Pro.com now.

01:39:51.000 Yeah.

01:39:51.000 Uh forgot I I can't remember off the top of my head.

01:39:54.000 I'd have to go open the chart and and remember it, but um there's this one chart on there basically that has the the lows for Bitcoin each cycle, and if you go below that line, um then you generally have a good time to buy.

01:40:05.000 So we'll talk about that in the course, of course.

01:40:07.000 Uh, but then also in terms of timing, easiest time for for Bitcoin's four year cycle low will be between uh October of next year uh to December of next year.

01:40:17.000 Um that generally is uh the time where we get the the four year cycle low, and it'll be generally because Bitcoin every single cycle goes down a little bit less uh in volatility from top to bottom.

01:40:29.000 Uh I think it was ninety-four percent a few cycles ago, then it was eighty-four percent, so it's a ten percent difference, and then it was seventy-seven percent, so that was not quite a ten percent difference.

01:40:38.000 So I think this cycle will be somewhere between 70 to 70 percent 70 to 75 percent down, which if the top was already in, right?

01:40:45.000 Which I don't think it is because a lot of the metrics just uh there's literally only like maybe one metric that hit uh but the other bunch did not.

01:40:53.000 Um, but if we went down it was 124,500 high, it'd be like 130 or sorry be like 33,000 to 38,000 dollar bitcoin would be somewhere within that range.

01:41:02.000 If we hit 200,000 Bitcoin, then 70 percent.

01:41:05.000 Which would be a gift, by the way, if you could buy Bitcoin at 30 grand.

01:41:07.000 Because the next number Charlie's about to say, oof it's about uh it's still gonna it's it's not cheap.

01:41:13.000 Bitcoin ain't cheap anymore, you guys.

01:41:14.000 Yep.

01:41:14.000 And so if we hit 200,000 within this cycle, doesn't matter when it is.

01:41:18.000 Let's say it's in February of next year.

01:41:20.000 We hit 200,000 Bitcoin, but then it drops 70% from top to bottom.

01:41:24.000 It'll the timing wise, it'll just be a shorter bear market, so uh based on four year cycles, so it will still be within that Q4 of next year.

01:41:31.000 Um, but it'll be go from like 200,000 down to like uh sixty thousand dollars or sixty nine thousand dollars, which maybe seven if it's bought heavy right, maybe fifty-five somewhere within there, uh where Germany sold.

01:41:41.000 So uh unfortunate for them, but yeah, somewhere with the question real quick.

01:41:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:41:46.000 Uh call it did that's your question?

01:41:49.000 Yep.

01:41:51.000 Oh, did you hang out?

01:41:52.000 Yeah, and then yeah, I bought the bundle for the beautiful.

01:41:55.000 Oh, beautiful man.

01:41:56.000 No, you're gonna you're gonna be loving that data.

01:41:58.000 Like you jump into that uh uh top uh cycle data and stuff.

01:42:02.000 Like it's a lot of information that we had not given in previous courses at all for the last few years because we've been accumulating that data um for the top of this cycle.

01:42:10.000 So you'll love it.

01:42:11.000 And that's on the cash out course and stuff like that.

01:42:12.000 So we're gonna take and then we're gonna be taking the guys for the whole I mean until the next crypto mindset course, which won't be till next year.

01:42:18.000 Yeah, and you know, we're agreeing with Barry as well.

01:42:22.000 I just want to learn technical analysis.

01:42:24.000 This is the absolutely we got a whole webinar on that.

01:42:26.000 I don't know Mo, you want to throw up that uh calendar one more time, just real quick. 1.00

01:42:30.000 Here we go.

01:42:31.000 But we have a whole technical analysis webinar there, practical technical analysis.

01:42:35.000 So every cycle or every uh what do you call it?

01:42:37.000 Not cycle, every uh course that we do, I do uh an updated technical analysis webinar.

01:42:41.000 So we got practical technical analysis there.

01:42:43.000 We got on-chain data, we got fundamental analysis um for smooth brains and giga brains.

01:42:46.000 Like we have all the cores of what you need there.

01:42:49.000 Um, and then we'll also give you guys some pre um some recordings from previous courses um so you can take a look at that information.

01:42:54.000 So man, you're gonna be swimming in it, you're gonna love it, it's gonna be great.

01:42:58.000 Awesome.

01:42:58.000 And then we also get pre-precorded uh webinars from the past to also just give you more information on like technical analysis and fundamental analysis.

01:43:06.000 So yeah, we take we make sure that you know what you're doing, brother.

01:43:10.000 We appreciate it, guys.

01:43:12.000 Likewise, man, have a lot of people.

01:43:13.000 How old are you if you don't mind asking?

01:43:15.000 Uh I turn 21 in August.

01:43:17.000 Oh my god, bro.

01:43:19.000 You're gonna have a you're you're gonna be cooking in 30s.

01:43:21.000 I was working at Chick-fil-A, struggling, bro.

01:43:24.000 Seven dollars an hour.

01:43:25.000 That's crazy.

01:43:25.000 Good stuff, bro.

01:43:27.000 All right, I appreciate it, guys.

01:43:28.000 That works.

01:43:29.000 Uh we'll do some more chats here and close out because uh we do have to get the show running for up to hours.

01:43:33.000 Yeah, uh, but let's see here.

01:43:34.000 What's the next one?

01:43:36.000 R Pedra. 0.67

01:43:38.000 So 83 says, which is better to get your quarter for course or a year in your telegram paid chat.

01:43:46.000 So if you are brand new to crypto, obviously the course 100%.

01:43:49.000 Now, if you have a portfolio already and it's already larger, I think you take the bundle basically, just because you'd be able to navigate taking profits and then basically reallocating again on the next dip, whether it's in January or maybe it's middle of uh November.

01:44:02.000 But the the telegram group is a like we have guys that just get into everything basically.

01:44:05.000 Yeah, and I I I couldn't even mind just about in here.

01:44:08.000 Um 997.

01:44:10.000 Yeah, base price.

01:44:11.000 Yep.

01:44:11.000 Correct.

01:44:12.000 247 chat, another price.

01:44:15.000 Yes.

01:44:15.000 But the gains long term over just a p the quarter itself for way more than what you spend.

01:44:21.000 Oh, yeah.

01:44:21.000 So it's a no-brainer for me.

01:44:23.000 No, yeah.

01:44:23.000 And then it speeds it's speeds run you to the point where like you know what you're doing, you know how to open exchanges, you know how to move your money in crypto, and you know, you really it one thing that we get uh like we get this all the time is that people take the course one time and then they're like, Oh, bro, like I listen to these other shows, and they're like I could tell they're lying to me.

01:44:38.000 Yep, they're like they're totally they don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

01:44:41.000 And you know, we have there's much more critical.

01:44:43.000 Yeah, much more critical.

01:44:44.000 There's tons of these uh these kind of cleaned up accounts.

01:44:46.000 Sort of like imagine like you have girls playing video games, you're like, these bitches don't want to play. 1.00

01:44:49.000 Yeah, you're just watching for tits, right? 1.00

01:44:51.000 Right.

01:44:51.000 Like you're starting to get that in XRP.

01:44:53.000 This is one thing I've been saying a lot.

01:44:54.000 Like, I I gotta give them their flowers XRP a little bit, but like XRP's paying a bunch of bimbos on Twitter and on market Instagram marketing and stuff. 1.00

01:45:01.000 They're like X like I'm the XRP girl.

01:45:04.000 Okay, sure.

01:45:06.000 You know, and and this is what we're talking about, but there's a guy version of that where like there's like a super cleaned up guy knows all this stuff and everything, like then you hear him on a live stream, like like we were talking about like I think Myron was saying this, he's like being live is like is like legitimately like the hardest thing to do and stuff because you're on you're all you're on the gun.

01:45:21.000 You're on the you know, um if you fuck up, you fuck up. 0.90

01:45:24.000 You have to really know your shit to do live streams.

01:45:26.000 Where a lot of content in crypto is like pre-recorded crap.

01:45:28.000 Like you could you cut all the ums and ahs out and everything like that, and yeah, as soon as you hear these guys talk, they're idiots.

01:45:34.000 They don't know how to talk, they don't really they like the biggest thing is like they they start talking in like crypto terms, and like they're they're talking like re like they're not really they're they're getting the terms wrong.

01:45:44.000 You're like it's it's like some of them are paid actors too.

01:45:47.000 Yeah, there's a lot of paid actors and stuff, yeah.

01:45:49.000 Okay.

01:45:49.000 Uh what's the next one?

01:45:53.000 The subject says 30k in debt, a 10% interest, uh 22 to 20 22k eth, 12k Avax.

01:46:01.000 Should I pay off debt now or wait for higher prices to sell?

01:46:04.000 So once again, 30k in debt, a 10% interest rate, 22k uh ETH, 12k ABAC.

01:46:10.000 What kind of debt is that?

01:46:14.000 What do you do?

01:46:15.000 10% interest that looks like maybe a college loan.

01:46:17.000 Yeah, it's kind of like a personal loan.

01:46:19.000 Or a personal maybe personal loan.

01:46:20.000 Not terrible, but I mean it it look so obvious, obviously, like you know you want to pay off a debt, but here's the problem is like you're like it's speculation right now, right?

01:46:29.000 It's like it be like I personally, yeah, I'd wait.

01:46:31.000 I wait to like hopefully hopefully it's not a credit, it's it's very very unlikely it's a credit card, it's probably a personal loan.

01:46:37.000 Um, but the way I would the way I do it, I just I'd wait to get higher prices to then take profits on it and stuff like that, but you also gotta be able to stomach if like the prices go down, you just got I mean you have to take the L on it and stuff like no risk, no story.

01:46:49.000 Yeah, right.

01:46:50.000 And so and there's I wouldn't sell and there's always opportunities.

01:46:52.000 I'll I'll take the conservative route and say, like, what if you did sell, right?

01:46:55.000 Because let's say, for example, maybe um this guy's had this debt for a while, and he's like, This is the most money I've had in a while.

01:47:01.000 I worked real hard for this.

01:47:02.000 I'm up, let's say I bought Ethereum cheap.

01:47:04.000 I've already won with these coins.

01:47:05.000 Let's say you did liquidate your whole portfolio.

01:47:08.000 Well, the the one risk of that, right, is like Miguel said, no risk, no story.

01:47:11.000 You might be giving up uh further gains within this cycle.

01:47:15.000 But if you did do the conservative route and paid off that debt, which is nice to be debt-free, that's what an amazing thing in this, especially in the United States.

01:47:23.000 Um, and let's say you're debt free, right?

01:47:25.000 Then what should you do?

01:47:26.000 Then the next two years, you are working harder than anybody.

01:47:30.000 You are basically out there hustling, trying to find as much money.

01:47:33.000 Hell, go get some aluminum cans off the street. 0.98

01:47:35.000 There's this guy in Brazil recently, the last five years, he's just been collect collecting aluminum cans, finally bought one big one full Bitcoin with that.

01:47:42.000 That was his goal.

01:47:43.000 And so do that for two years, really understand the industry, get in the course, you know, to get your foundation of the of there, and then just work really hard over the next two years because Q4.

01:47:53.000 I didn't want to call it a course because you guys are gonna do Zoom calls with them.

01:47:55.000 It's really like a coaching seminar.

01:47:57.000 It's a boot camp, is really what it is.

01:47:59.000 Because if it's just a course, It'd be like you download something, you watch it.

01:48:01.000 No, on this one, it's like they're gonna you guys are gonna hold their hands, do two hours twice a day with them pretty much, if not more.

01:48:07.000 Yep.

01:48:07.000 Um the whole month of October.

01:48:09.000 The whole month of October.

01:48:10.000 They take a breakout streaming and they just focus on this the whole time, guys.

01:48:13.000 So that's really a time to level up with cryptocurrency.

01:48:15.000 And this guy's gonna feel better.

01:48:16.000 So here's like I don't want to make the guy feel bad here, but look, he has like 34,000.

01:48:19.000 If he pays off the debt, he's gonna have probably $3,500 left over.

01:48:23.000 And then if the prices go up, he's gonna be like, I want to kill myself because like I could have I could have actually like paid my debt off had 60 or 70,000 in profit, and that's the no risk, no story.

01:48:32.000 So like we can't we can't tell you 100% it's gonna go up right now.

01:48:35.000 Because like if we would the market does what the market does, but I would take the risk, you're already there already, but like you'd be able to like with the left, even let's just say it started going down, you'd be you'd have enough profit.

01:48:44.000 Worst case, you're like, all right, I got 20k left over to selling the Ethereum and ABX after it went down, and I'll be able to pay off that other 10k.

01:48:50.000 Yeah, we and we give and we give guys the buffet of options.

01:48:53.000 Hey, here's if you do this, here's if you do that.

01:48:55.000 Here's the options, here's what you could do.

01:48:57.000 You decide because you're an adult, right?

01:48:59.000 Make more money and pay that shit off, bro.

01:49:01.000 Yeah.

01:49:01.000 A lot of you guys have like an earning problem, is is the issue.

01:49:03.000 Yes.

01:49:04.000 Right, is you just simply don't earn enough.

01:49:06.000 Um, you're never gonna save yourself to being like rich or paying off your debt.

01:49:10.000 You're gonna you're just gonna have to work more hours, right?

01:49:12.000 Less time chasing after ass or watching sports or cracking a beer open with your friends, like you're gonna have to grind and like really lock in.

01:49:19.000 And I mean like you know, sacrifice a social life for a while sometimes to pay that debt off.

01:49:23.000 Like 30k is quite a bit, bro.

01:49:25.000 And a 10% interest rate, it's manageable, but you don't want it to get worse.

01:49:28.000 Yeah.

01:49:28.000 So um you're like right now in that go between area where like this this is obvious obviously manageable now, but if you let it keep going, it's gonna get 10 times worse, man.

01:49:37.000 So it's a t it's a 10, you have a chance to lose 10,000 bucks to possibly gain 60 to 70 grand.

01:49:42.000 Yeah, and the risk reward is definitely in favor of this market.

01:49:44.000 Yep.

01:49:45.000 Well, yeah.

01:49:45.000 So I would say hold on to your crypto and make more money, bro, and pay that shit down more aggressively.

01:49:50.000 Um who else do we have?

01:49:51.000 Who's up next on the phone lines?

01:49:53.000 Um well, it is 1045, actually.

01:49:55.000 We should probably get off.

01:49:58.000 Oh, you got one propaganda in the house, man.

01:50:00.000 We're gonna do uh great after hours with him, it's gonna be hilarious.

01:50:03.000 Um Rex Kraken says, uh question right off now.

01:50:06.000 Do you guys have an anyone for money Monday that works in a dietary supplement industry?

01:50:09.000 I've created a supplement company and love to hear more about CMs, their marketing, etc.

01:50:13.000 Um, bro, I've had Brandon Carter on, and we've talked about um, you know, supplement companies.

01:50:18.000 Very difficult, bro.

01:50:19.000 Very, very difficult.

01:50:20.000 The um the margins are low, the cost of running it are high, especially if you're gonna have like high quality stuff.

01:50:26.000 Um I've talked with both Brandon Carter and with um Bradley Barn about this, bro.

01:50:30.000 It's not easy at all.

01:50:32.000 Um and it's it's hard to do if you don't have like a personal brand, or like either A, you're a big influencer yourself and you're able to sell it, or B, you have big influencers that are gonna promote it for you.

01:50:41.000 That's why they're money to push the marketing because that's a lot of money going through.

01:50:44.000 Yeah, bro.

01:50:44.000 So or do you vitamin shop or something?

01:50:46.000 You have to have something.

01:50:48.000 So I mean, if you got the dough and you got the capital and you want to try it, fine.

01:50:51.000 But it's pretty hard to do, bro, to do uh supplement uh again in the summit industry when you don't have a platform because you're gonna have to rely on other people that do have a platform, them niggas are gonna charge you. 1.00

01:50:59.000 They're gonna tax you.

01:51:00.000 Yeah, they're gonna want a lot of money to promote your stuff. 0.69

01:51:02.000 Yeah, listen to Bretton Carter, man.

01:51:04.000 He knows he definitely knows what's he's been around a long time.

01:51:06.000 The margins are very uh difficult.

01:51:08.000 That's why most people I know that get into the summon industry, they don't last long.

01:51:12.000 So go ahead.

01:51:13.000 I I I I know I um if you search Brandon Carter Summon Industry, I think we talked about about it before with him in one of our earlier interviews.

01:51:19.000 I'm sure you brought it up, yeah.

01:51:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:51:21.000 Uh, who's up next?

01:51:23.000 But yeah, I just know from talking to a couple guys, it's difficult, bro.

01:51:26.000 Uh I'm buying a quarter for CMC, very uh very excited.

01:51:29.000 I'm getting my refund check from my school, October 10, 3K.

01:51:32.000 Now, uh how much do you guys see me having at the end of uh CMC if follow correctly?

01:51:37.000 It depends on what you're gonna do, bro.

01:51:38.000 That like that's but everyone prop most people um profit.

01:51:42.000 Yeah, but stack on majority make money. 0.99

01:51:43.000 Yeah, we mentioned it before, like if you're taking some of the simple shots and and Bitcoin gets above 125 or 130,000.

01:51:50.000 I think you could 2x that for sure.

01:51:52.000 You can get that to 6,000.

01:51:53.000 Pretty much if if they show up to every call, everybody's profitable.

01:51:56.000 Yeah.

01:51:56.000 If they show up to every call.

01:51:57.000 If they show up to every call, actually do what we say, don't go all in on one coin, like actually listen to the best practices, absolutely.

01:52:03.000 Yeah, like um, like I was saying.

01:52:05.000 Yeah, I was saying on Friday, uh I just had the super chat come in the other week or whatever.

01:52:10.000 One of our guys down in New Zealand was like, hey bro, I've been following you guys for about five years now.

01:52:14.000 I finally got 800 ETH, and I was like, ooh, nice, good job, bro.

01:52:20.000 Like, and that dude's been following it.

01:52:22.000 He uh, you know, watches us with his family.

01:52:24.000 He's taking it extremely seriously.

01:52:26.000 And he's doing very, very well for us.

01:52:28.000 Wow, good.

01:52:29.000 All right.

01:52:30.000 Um, what else?

01:52:31.000 And they give advice, guys, from a beginner all the way to advanced.

01:52:34.000 There's no way you're not gonna make money if you go to every class and listen to what they say, bro.

01:52:37.000 Just I joined the course, but I didn't get the invite yet.

01:52:40.000 Check your email.

01:52:40.000 Check your email spam promotions.

01:52:42.000 Charlie Cultivate Crypto.com.

01:52:44.000 And Telegram.

01:52:44.000 Get in the telegram.

01:52:45.000 And if you still don't have it, send an email to support at cultivate crypto.com.

01:52:49.000 We'll get you in there.

01:52:50.000 Cool.

01:52:51.000 What about a Pepe and Shiba?

01:52:52.000 And these guys are going to be here until Thursday, guys.

01:52:54.000 So and they'll be in studio on Wednesday as well when we do our show.

01:52:57.000 So, you know, they'll be in the back chilling.

01:52:59.000 So if you guys got other questions like this, get them in while you guys while you guys can.

01:53:02.000 Uh what about Peipe and Shiba?

01:53:04.000 With the ETFs.

01:53:05.000 So yeah, so now that they've uh now they've uh we no longer have vague listing rules for ETFs.

01:53:10.000 Uh Pepe ETF is possible, which is really good.

01:53:13.000 Shibi and you is probably so they're probably gonna get ETFs, but very likely in 26.

01:53:18.000 Okay.

01:53:18.000 So it's gonna be maybe between quarter one, quarter two of twenty-six when those happen, just because you have to file an S1 and an S3 basically to get the ETF approved.

01:53:26.000 So we're the the these companies that that uh did these for like uh XRP and Dogecoin and Solana did them in basically 24.

01:53:34.000 Yeah, in order to barely have them come out and I know in 25.

01:53:37.000 So they're I think they're gonna have them come out and they're not they're not being expedited, but like yeah, Pepe and Shiba are not having until 26.

01:53:43.000 All right.

01:53:44.000 If they happen.

01:53:45.000 Who's up next?

01:53:47.000 Charlie Miguel staying on for after hours.

01:53:49.000 They'll be here in the back.

01:53:50.000 Um propaganda's gonna be the special guest, but they'll be here chilling with us, um, you know, hanging out and stuff like that.

01:53:56.000 Styles says, uh hey Charlie and Miguel, please give your price a prediction for alluvium.

01:54:03.000 Should I buy more?

01:54:04.000 Basically, look, um so stuff in the game fi sector.

01:54:08.000 If Ethereum doesn't go up crazy, the the uh the uh the game fi sector is not gonna do well.

01:54:13.000 One thing that the GameFi sector is waiting for, they're waiting for the brand new Grand Theft Auto.

01:54:16.000 Grand Theft Auto is going to have you you need a big like like moment like that.

01:54:20.000 Grand Theft Auto is going to have a crypto with it.

01:54:24.000 You know, Rockstar is going to make a fucking fortune off of that new game, dude.

01:54:28.000 When it comes out, oh my god.

01:54:30.000 I know.

01:54:31.000 It's they said sometime in 26, I don't know.

01:54:33.000 It could be 27 when it comes out.

01:54:34.000 But like it they're making like the previous Grand Theft Auto.

01:54:37.000 I mean, it's the most profitable game of all time.

01:54:39.000 It made more that game made more money than movies made.

01:54:42.000 The whole movie industry.

01:54:43.000 Well, video video games are the new uh video games are literally the number one form of entertainment now.

01:54:47.000 They've overtaken movies and TV a long time ago.

01:54:49.000 Yeah.

01:54:49.000 So game five stuff, you guys, make like you can have some definitely, but it is the highest, it's pretty much the highest risk next to buying like vaporware NFTs.

01:54:57.000 Yeah, I was gonna say, like, yeah, it's kind of killed it's died off a uh quite a lot compared to uh similar to NFTs. 0.66

01:55:03.000 There's no hype right now.

01:55:03.000 Yeah, it's just it's because there's it's a retail focused industry, right?

01:55:07.000 It's not focused, it's not a wall street focused and wall money's coming in through Wall Street this cycle.

01:55:11.000 So focus on the quality.

01:55:13.000 It uh on the uh schedule.

01:55:14.000 If you go back to the earlier part of the episode, we were putting up the schedule.

01:55:17.000 We have a few different webinars uh where we talk about the difference between uh normal average every day, Joe, uh, and Wall Street money and how those flows kind of go uh around in crypto.

01:55:27.000 All right, yeah.

01:55:28.000 Uh uh, that's it.

01:55:29.000 Yep.

01:55:30.000 All right.

01:55:30.000 Uh comedy skit, Mattel and Botello.

01:55:33.000 All right, cool.

01:55:34.000 Uh shout out Moon Gang powered by Torta Twitter.

01:55:37.000 Um 30k and that we've got that one.

01:55:39.000 Yeah.

01:55:40.000 So glad I bought Aster at 60 cents up 10k since I mentioned it the last time you guys were on Lungin here.

01:55:45.000 There you go, bro.

01:55:46.000 That's that's seems good stuff, bro.

01:55:49.000 All right, cool.

01:55:50.000 So uh guys, um we are gonna um do after hours is 1052.

01:55:54.000 I estimate we'll probably start around 1115, 1130.

01:55:56.000 Guys, get in the course, man.

01:55:57.000 It closes next Monday.

01:55:59.000 Monday.

01:56:00.000 Could we drop the rumble link for them in the chat on YouTube so they have it?

01:56:05.000 The after hours rumble.

01:56:06.000 Yeah, the afternoon.

01:56:06.000 Yeah, the after hours rumble link.

01:56:07.000 Yes.

01:56:08.000 Or or the kick link, whichever one, just so they know.

01:56:10.000 Guys, as you guys know, we no longer do after hours on YouTube for certain reasons.

01:56:13.000 Yeah.

01:56:14.000 We're gonna be doing it only on kick and rumble, so come on over, guys.

01:56:18.000 Um and uh yeah, watch catch the stream over there, man.

01:56:20.000 Rumble.com slash fresh fit, kick.com slash fresh upfit.

01:56:23.000 Uh it's gonna be a good time.

01:56:24.000 We'll catch you guys over there.

01:56:25.000 Peace.

01:56:26.000 Peace.

01:56:28.000 I ran so far away.

01:56:31.000 I just done.

Fresh & Fit - September 22, 2025

Trump’s Secret Crypto Stash And Why You Need Crypto Now!

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