In this episode we talk about Trump and crypto, the stablecoin market, and why China is the new JP Morgan Chase. We also talk about the future of the crypto market and why we should be worried about it.
00:10:00.000End of the this week, beginning of next week.
00:10:02.000So we we're gonna give you guys a bunch of value.
00:10:04.000Uh explain what's going on with uh the Lances of the Crypto, Donald Trump, um, the schedule, and then also um answering questions with the phone lines open up the phone lines for you guys, and then we got woman propaganda on for tonight for after hours with some girls, that's obviously gonna be on Rumble and Kick only.
00:10:42.000I mean, they're obviously it's great for the economy, it's great for the US dollar.
00:10:46.000Everything Trump is doing is basically to protect and extend the life of the dollar.
00:10:50.000At some point in time, the dollar's either gonna transform into something brand new, just fully crypto, or we're just gonna make some new currency that's gonna be backed by basically our treasury of of cryptocurrency assets, you know, real estate and everything else as well.
00:11:04.000You know, um like Trump they they passed a genius act with stable coins, and this is like this is what we started getting the finance minister of Russia basically calling out the United States.
00:11:12.000Like, you guys don't understand what you guys are what what the United States is doing.
00:11:15.000They're basically going to dump all their debt on the world.
00:11:22.000Pretty much so t Trump's making all these tariffs, right?
00:11:24.000So a lot of countries are getting pissed off, so they're buying less US treasuries, which is basically they're not buying our debt as much.
00:11:31.000Well, we're gonna grow the stable coin market.
00:11:33.000All the stable coins are gonna be backed one to one, a dollar of stable coin to a dollar of US treasuries, and we're gonna let the global citizens around the planet basically destroy their local currency to get into a tether, a USDC or a USD one or whatever stablecoin that exists out there, and that is basically going to buy up treasuries.
00:11:53.000I mean, um they're they're expecting sometime by like 2028 uh the stable coin market could grow to four trillion dollars.
00:11:59.000That would make them the single largest holders of US treasuries on the planet, more than China, more than anybody.
00:12:03.000I think right now we're maybe like 13th largest, the whole the the entire like uh stablecoin market.
00:12:11.000It's like we we like it it's sort of like what's happening right now in crypto and in kind of with Trump in office is Trump understands money.
00:12:18.000Yeah, he's a businessman, he's made money before.
00:12:20.000As much as people want to like shit on him on this guy knows business, and we want to be market leaders.
00:12:27.000So that's why we're like we've been pushing forward to like if if we let if we let China control AI, we're playing second fiddle and we're gonna lose, right?
00:12:34.000So we're going, we're trying to control AI and we're trying to be the market leader in crypto, and that's what's happening right now.
00:12:39.000Like we are the market leader in crypto now.
00:12:41.000Also, keep in mind, um, I didn't know this until recently, but we're in a lot of debt.
00:12:45.000Like yes, not just a lot of debt, we're in a massive amount of debt.
00:12:59.000Um so yeah, pretty much uh we've been we've been teaching the crypto mindset for the last five years.
00:13:04.000Um we've been showing people how to self-custody, how to buy Bitcoin.
00:13:08.000Um then it's gone to the point now where we've gotten very rich individuals, someone like Gary Cardone or the Cardones and stuff trying to like publicly buying it and stuff, and then I cannot believe going to the conference that Cardone was sitting there with his brother saying, I'm buying Bitcoin.
00:13:36.000But but these these billionaires or these people worth hundreds of millions of dollars are all getting into crypto.
00:13:41.000Now uh banks are slowly getting into crypto.
00:13:43.000Now uh large corporations like uh BlackRock and um you're starting to get treasury company you're gonna try to get stock market companies.
00:13:49.000So basically our private sector and our rich individuals and kind of basically the top ten percent of Americans are buying crypto right now, storing it up because as soon as the US government officially starts, hey, yeah, we're gonna spend about a hundred billion dollars a year to buy crypto assets.
00:14:03.000It they're not gonna call it a Bitcoin reserve, they're gonna call it the crypto reserve, but it's mostly gonna be Bitcoin.
00:14:08.000Yeah, they'll probably call it digital asset uh just because they don't like the words Bitcoin, they don't like the words crypto.
00:14:12.000The media's basically uh what do you call it, tarnish tried to tarnish those names over the last ten to fifteen years to try to stop crypto that uh they just say digital asset reserve, anything blockchain is still okay.
00:14:24.000But I I think what these governments and corporations, uh like Grant Cardones corporation, the government, the US government, other governments, what they're starting to realize is like okay, short term there's a lot of volatility in crypto.
00:14:37.000Long term though, if you get the assets that have basically already won and are not going away, then you can basically outpace inflation with those and you can have a reserve of assets just like you know, with uh gold, silver, and other stuff too.
00:14:51.000The other thing I think that they're realizing is if you look at like Miguel said, there's AI and crypto.
00:14:56.000Yeah, just like we don't want China to be the leader in AI, right?
00:15:00.000We don't want them to be the leader in crypto as well.
00:15:02.000And they actually were the leader in Bitcoin mining for like ever dimmer almost forever until like just the end of the last cycle in twenty twenty-two.
00:15:10.000Well uh a lot of that transfer happened um between middle of twenty-one to uh beginning of twenty-four.
00:15:16.000It was like a long process, but now uh you have a lot of that mining going over into Texas.
00:15:21.000But the thing that's interesting if you look at like a historical perspective of what crypto is and what AI is.
00:15:27.000AI, I mean it's akin to like fire or the wheel.
00:15:31.000Like it's that significant of uh what do you call it of an invention by humanity, right?
00:15:36.000Like it's massive it could massively change the whole landscape of what we do.
00:15:40.000Crypto, I would say is more along the lines of like the printing press.
00:15:44.000Um it's basically the the major F you to the government in the sense that uh there's never been a time in human history where the citizens could have control of money and actually be involved in the process of money creation.
00:15:57.000That's always been something that kings and you know uh lords, governments have always been in charge of.
00:16:02.000And they are in charge of that with brute force, right?
00:16:05.000With murder, with you know war, with all that stuff.
00:16:07.000And so crypto, uh there's a guy named Milton Freeman in the mid-90s.
00:16:12.000What he said was the only way humans will ever take the power away from the Federal Reserve again, or the citizens will, is if they do something that's technological and that's like a sly version of something the government wouldn't notice at first.
00:16:25.000And Trump's and Trump's like beefing right now with the Fed right now as well and stuff.
00:16:29.000So the Fed's kind of gotten back in line a little bit because Jerome Powell's out of here May 12th, right?
00:16:41.000So if you look at it, we just got one in September, we're gonna go in October, another one in December, probably another one in February.
00:16:47.000And then Jerome basically said he's not gonna cut anymore.
00:16:50.000And then as soon as uh Trump puts uh somebody brand new in office, the cuts are gonna continue probably because Jerome is basically saying that like we'll cut one more time in twenty-seven.
00:17:27.000But we were still at zero percent right there, and then twenty like I mean, literally look at it.
00:17:32.000I mean, like twenty uh in crypto stock market too, we all to we basically topped out November, December of twenty one, and then January, fifty basis point increase, and then in within two years, we went from zero to like five and a quarter, five and a half percent.
00:17:46.000And then you know what in real estate, you know, th that means like 30 year mortgage is like seven or eight percent, nine percent.
00:17:51.000Yeah, you know, from like three percent right now.
00:17:53.000Right now, yeah, it was the last couple of deals I've done are been like eight is between seven and nine percent.
00:17:57.000Like, what what does it cost to like cut a point?
00:17:59.000Because you you always would buy real estate, but also like take points off, right?
00:18:02.000Yeah, you can buy, yeah, you can buy points uh to bring it down.
00:18:05.000Um, but then you start to get to a point of diminishing returns where it doesn't make sense.
00:18:09.000Um but I was buying it as an investor, so obviously if you buy an investor, you it's always gonna be a point of just off of that alone.
00:18:16.000But if you're buying it as a as a you know, uh as a you know, as a homeowner and you're gonna live in it uh as your residence, you'll probably get around six or seven.
00:18:42.000But we're probably he's gonna like if if Trump is in control by twenty middle of twenty six, which he will be, I think we're gonna be the Fed's fund rate's gonna be like two percent.
00:18:50.000So that means you know, good credit, you're probably getting like low fours on a 30 year that would be good.
00:18:57.000And that's deep that's enough, and then it's pretty damn good.
00:18:59.000Yeah, and that's kind of what I was talking about the other show is like we're gonna start we're gonna start getting a refinance boom in the real estate market.
00:19:08.000But like the deal has to be good enough because there's tons of people, like that's actually gonna be what's fuels the next crypto bull run in the next stock market run.
00:19:14.000Is it's gonna be real estate has basically been at a standstill since 22, basically, right?
00:19:33.000But you can't but if you sell it, you're like, damn, this payment's ridiculous.
00:19:37.000You know, sure you have cas people don't want to like you know, get into a like e an equal house they had in California, buy one in Miami, and they're like, dude, this is I'm paying twice the mortgage that I paid in California for this house in Miami, just because the um the interest rate's so much higher.
00:20:02.000So we are getting some real estate prices coming down finally.
00:20:05.000Um the interest rate, there's gonna be a point in time, like I like I kind of think like if the rates keep coming down, we're gonna start getting a lot of uh refinances probably at the end of uh 26, and then probably like maybe prices are done crashing finally by middle of 27, the summer because usually the summer is where all the sales happen.
00:20:21.000Like no one buy like most people don't buy houses in December.
00:20:23.000It's just a terrible time in real estate to buy.
00:20:25.000You know, because most people, you know, they're they're emotional buying, they're like, let me see how this house looks in spring or in summer, basically, right?
00:20:31.000But like, you know, if you like, you know, Charlie's from Minnesota, right?
00:20:33.000Like who who goes buys houses in Minnesota in December, it's all I covered in ice.
00:20:47.000The only thing like that I'm worried about a little bit is what's gonna happen in 28, who's gonna is it gonna be JD, or is it gonna be like is it somebody from the left?
00:20:55.000That's where I get a little like I'm a little like I don't know.
00:20:58.000I mean, obviously, like the the Dems steal money and they pump the markets, of course, on the stock market side, but um they could spend the whole next four years trying to just take back whatever you know he did.
00:21:09.000And that's why the number one most important thing in my mind uh of what uh they should actually like set in stone in terms of law of what they've passed for executive orders and different things uh uh related to crypto is the anti-CBDC Act.
00:21:22.000Basically uh Trump signed an executive order saying during my term, there will not be a central bank digital currency being created in the United States.
00:21:31.000So if the let's say the Democrats came in and said, well, screw that, Europe actually um between basically uh 2026 to 20, I would say 31, somewhere within there.
00:21:43.000The EU is going to get a central bank digital currency.
00:22:02.000So it's basically a simplest way you can for them.
00:22:04.000Yeah, the simplest way is it's uh it's a stable coin or it's a coin that's stable to that currency.
00:22:09.000So let's say it's the US dollar, right?
00:22:12.000So if it's a digital version of the US dollar, it's a digital version of the US dollar, but created by the government, not created by a corporation.
00:22:18.000So it's uh that's the one that would be termed official, right?
00:22:21.000And so it's an official government currency.
00:22:23.000And what they can do with that is well, the NSA.
00:22:47.000That's what not what we want crypto to be used for.
00:22:50.000And um the reason why the EU is going after that um is simply just because it's an easier way to control everything that's going on on um among multiple countries.
00:23:00.000Also, you probably got a lot of people who are like, well, what we could do is let's say, for example, like in a dystopian example, um, let's say you're driving uh a Porsche to go somewhere and you're going to eat somewhere and you're eating like you know, grass-fed beef and all this stuff, and they're like, Okay, I'm gonna pay for this, I'm gonna buy this at the restaurant, and they say, Well, sir, actually you've used up your carbon credits related to to your central bank digital currency for the month.
00:23:22.000So actually, uh, since you drove here in a Porsche, you can't have a stake or or whatever it might be, right?
00:24:01.000And then uh there's a guy named Richard Werner, who's uh an economist who's uh through Germany, the UK, and he's where he works at Oxford, he's um also uh been in Japan for a long period of time.
00:24:13.000He had this really interesting documentary called The Princes of the Yen.
00:24:16.000And he's basically said uh the timeline of what you saw for the EU to get created is kind of a similar timeline for the central bank digital currency.
00:24:24.000And if you kind of compare those timelines, it would be between 2026 and 2032 where you get that more than likely 2029, 2031.
00:24:32.000So what I why I was mentioning that is because if the EU gets it and then somebody another party comes into power that's more aligned with maybe that type of philosophy, then um they could say, Screw that executive order, we're gonna get rid of that.
00:24:45.000We're actually gonna implement this because we can see that the EU the last two years has been doing this all right.
00:24:55.000They're probably gonna roll it out where hey, you you do this and we'll give you some money and you know, normies are gonna look at it like, oh, really?
00:25:01.000Yeah, it's way easier, it's cashless, so like blah blah blah.
00:25:12.000And I've been talking about this since twenty nineteen, people thought I was crazy.
00:25:15.000Well is the big problem because now people are losing their jobs, they have no money, they need money.
00:25:19.000So you offer them to check every month welfare up on this, like welfare and all these government services, eventually they'll make you download an app.
00:25:27.000That's how they're gonna force it to happen, especially in in those countries.
00:25:30.000Is you have to download the government app.
00:25:31.000That's how you're gonna get your wick.
00:25:32.000That's where you can get your welfare, that's how you're gonna get your uh you know, basically your uh your subsidies or maybe like pay from the government, and that's how they're gonna on start onboarding people into this.
00:25:42.000And the reason it's it's so bad is because it's mixing the NSA with Palantir.
00:25:46.000They're gonna look at all your data, and as soon as just like that, like we're gonna demonetize you.
00:25:52.000Now, the United States is not gonna go, it's they're gonna do this selectively at first, but there's other countries that are gonna go way harder.
00:25:58.000China's been doing it for a long time.
00:25:59.000They've been trying it out for a long time.
00:26:00.000So like when you have total control of the economy, there's no real dollars anymore.
00:26:04.000There's no more real like like like physical dollars than because it's all digital at that point, then they could say, you know, the economy's a little slow today.
00:26:12.000Um all the money that was made in the last two weeks, you have to spend it before Monday or it disappears.
00:26:19.000That way they can control a little bit better.
00:27:04.000He's uh the whip of the thing of the Republican Party.
00:27:06.000And um he's been actually a very good proponent and very actually I'd say one of the few politicians that's actually very uh eloquent about speaking about cryptocurrency understands it.
00:27:16.000You know, it's not just somebody gave him talking points and like said, hey, here's what you talk about.
00:27:20.000Um he actually looks like he sat down and understood this and he said, as a nation, we need to make sure that this absolutely does not happen.
00:27:28.000We need to make sure that executive order gets turned into law, and if that happens within the next three years, awesome.
00:27:34.000Because what the United States is gonna do instead is they're going to go into corporation-based stable coins, which are not central bank digital currencies, so uh one ultimate power is not gonna be able to turn them off.
00:27:44.000You're gonna be able to choose between a plethora of options like Circle, which is Coinbase.
00:28:41.000So the way that Tether does it, right?
00:28:43.000They have their corporation, they print digital dollars, but they do so based on how much value they actually have of dollars within their corporation.
00:28:52.000Uh they recently hired Bo Hines, who is in the Trump administration, uh, because he was actually behind uh the movement of the Genius Act that passed this summer, which allowed corporations to basically make stable coins, it made stable coin uh legalization essentially, like regulated.
00:29:07.000Uh and so now what you're gonna see a lot of banks do, like JP Morgan, right?
00:29:10.000They're gonna be like, oh, well, we're at the front of the money printer.
00:29:13.000We wanna stay at the front of the money printer.
00:29:15.000So they're gonna aggressively uh do these things.
00:29:18.000And so Ethereum is the coin that basically all this is built upon.
00:29:22.000Like I said, the company, uh I won't name the name, but the company that made uh well that helped to fund Ethereum and Cardano back in, I think this was like 2015.
00:29:32.000They're the ones that are also helping the some of the central bank digital currency go through.
00:29:37.000Um they're going to create some privacy stuff related to that.
00:29:41.000So uh and then there's gonna be that technology will probably be copied by a lot of other things.
00:29:45.000But the core point is that a lot of it's built on or almost all of it will be built on Ethereum, and so that's going to bring a lot of well, so the the rule in crypto is whenever you have stable coins coming in to an ecosystem, price goes up because you have money sitting there, eventually that money's gonna buy up Ethereum, buy up whatever assets are in that space.
00:30:04.000And so if you have uh Tom Tom Lee, who's uh the head of this company called BitMine that's uh trying to own five percent of all Ethereum supply, um he's basically talking about how many trillions of dollars are going to come into crypto just because of all these stable coins being created by these corporations.
00:30:26.000How much assets do they all have that they can be like, okay, we're actually backing the dollars that we're printing or that we're putting into circulation that people can use as like an IOU.
00:30:36.000We're backing that with actual assets that we have, sometimes dollars, maybe sometimes their own real estate, uh, but they put that down as collateral essentially.
00:30:43.000And so when you get all that money coming into onto Ethereum, right?
00:31:11.000Well, you have to always be able to, yeah.
00:31:13.000Yeah, uh part of freedom is being able to do what you want when you want with whom you want wherever you want, right?
00:31:18.000Yeah, you've got to have control of some of your money, buy some Bitcoin, buy some Ethereum, like focus on those two mostly.
00:31:23.000And you know, you can speculate, let's make some money, of course, but you know, long term, like like every every time the market crashes, like during the all-time lows like um during twenty nineteen or during twenty twenty two I bought Bitcoin and I bought Ethereum that I'm not selling.
00:31:37.000I'm just keeping it for a long time and for a long you know this is like a 10, 20, 30 year hold for me, you know.
00:31:42.000And for both your Bitcoin and the Ethereum.
00:31:52.000Yeah at this point like 2035 so 235 is when you're looking at maybe liquidating it.
00:31:56.000Maybe liquidating a little bit or something or taking some money off there or but it depends too what I'm doing for 10 years.
00:32:03.000Yeah of course you have to like so like it's sort of like that Bitcoin caller that called in the maxi.
00:32:08.000Well like there's times where you buy Bitcoin where it's really like we were s like I was trying to get people to buy Bitcoin below a trillion dollar market cap.
00:32:13.000$52,000 and below it went to fifteen thousand five hundred and we were trying to get people to buy fifteen thousand five hundred twenty grand.
00:32:20.000How much was it last year at this time?
00:32:23.000For which coin for Bitcoin Bitcoin I remember one time y'all came here when it was really low.
00:32:40.000Uh guys by the way we are going to open up the phone lines for you guys as well.
00:32:42.000Uh six four six four nine zero zero three nine four is the number to call into the show.
00:32:46.000I don't know if it's open yet Mo Mo typically waits until to turn it to whatever but we were going to finish um chopping it up with the boys are going to open up the phone lines so you guys could go and ask your questions.
00:32:56.000So September of twenty twenty four yeah sixty sixty two thousand dollars or 1120 doubled in a year bro isn't that wild and everyone's the Mo this is a bull year for Bitcoin I think because of what he said was you know uh all the stuff with the the rate cuts and then future money printing that that's gonna help us bleed into next year.
00:33:17.000W would you advise someone um like I mean that we had that hater call on last time would you advise someone to buy Bitcoin at this point or is it like come on at this point bro it might not be worth it.
00:33:26.000You might want to go into a everything has a use case right so it depends on who you are.
00:33:31.000Like my why is Michael Saylor so going so hard in Bitcoin because he's already rich.
00:33:38.000So he just wants to maintain his value over time against the dollar actually increase over the dollar right make sure he doesn't lose his money and then B increase slowly.
00:33:47.000So he's a lot more conservative in that sense, right?
00:33:49.000But then why is Tom Lee wanting to buy five percent of all Ethereum right because he knows that's the next one that's basically still cheap.
00:33:57.000It's like you're buying five thousand five thousand dollar Ethereum is like you're buying maybe you know uh two thousand dollar Bitcoin back in the day.
00:34:06.000But in terms of the opportunity roughly speaking yeah so buying Ethereum right now at what is it three thousand or something like that is the equivalent of 4200.
00:34:49.000Web 2 is kind of what we're used to using now.
00:34:51.000And so they want to make it easy to use, you know, We have Phantom wallet I don't know if you've ever used that for Solana but when you use that it's like you're using an application for that you're using on your phone now.
00:35:01.000It's not like you're using a crypto application really because of the ease of use and because Solana's sticking around a lot of the banks are buying into that and starting to build on that.
00:35:11.000Now we have to see one more four to five year move of Solana building there through the banks and then if that happens then Solana's gonna basically get uh what do you call it crystallized as like your number three uh cryptocurrency that's gonna stick around long term a lot of people in crypto probably don't like that but it's wall street money.
00:35:30.000Yeah have you heard of the all in podcast?
00:35:34.000They're attached to the book David Sachs.
00:35:37.000Yeah yeah yeah that's that podcast they did it they did a big episode last year when the when they endorsed Trump I remember right so they're all those guys on the show invest into Solana at like a penny basically and these guys are all attached to the Trump administration.
00:35:52.000You know so it's like we just following the money and they're also pay ex some of them are pay ex PayPal mafia and then some of the and Peter Thiels also back in J D and back to All the all the candidates on the on the right for you know uh vice president.
00:36:03.000So it's just we're just tracking where the money's going, right?
00:36:06.000So it's like, all right, so like this one's one of the gilded ones.
00:36:08.000So this is the stuff that we were looking at when when Solana crashed to like seven dollars, right?
00:36:12.000We we told our guys let's this let's put some money in.
00:36:15.000Like I bought a ton at sixteen dollars and stuff just because we were just is are they still backing it?
00:36:43.000Let's just say uh he would he probably like let's just say, Mom, mom, buy Bitcoin, cool.
00:36:47.000He his mom probably would have bought it in March or April of of 21 for you know, sixty-four thousand, sixty thousand within the next couple months, she was down the entire time, and then around November, she finally got like finally, mom, I'm I'm nine thousand dollars in profit, and then it crashed for another year and some change too.
00:37:04.000So then the mom and like this is what most people do.
00:37:13.000Three thousand to sixty-nine that's where the money went.
00:37:16.000When us buying fifteen or twenty thousand dollar Bitcoin, now it's like a hundred and thirteen thousand, hundred and fifteen thousand dollars, right?
00:37:23.000So Ethereum's all time high in twenty one was forty eight hundred bucks.
00:37:28.000Bitcoin's all-time high in twenty one was sixty-nine thousand.
00:37:31.000So Bitcoin's basically doubled, almost doubled its all-time high.
00:37:35.000And Ethereum's is right there below its all-time high.
00:37:38.000So you're buy so if you're just looking at like a value and we're also just like Charlie Blue Charlie was saying here about like Tom Lee, Tom Lee's trying to buy six million Ethereum, which is a five percent of the supply.
00:37:50.000Yeah, it's it's and they're gonna stake it and make a bunch of money with it and stuff like that.
00:37:53.000And like and Tom Lee used to be the top the top in uh he left he left uh JP Morgan in 2014, but he was basically their top guy, their top macro guy at JP Morgan in 2014.
00:38:04.000He left, made his own fund and stuff, and he's basically been one of the most in terms of like the last decade, he's been single-handedly the most correct guy when it comes to equities.
00:38:13.000I mean, it's like he's super famous in equities, but well, if that guy's buying a bunch of Ethereum, I think on we're on to something here.
00:38:41.000But here's the other thing though, like, where is it going?
00:38:43.000One of the things that uh, you know, R.A.P. John McAfee, Mac McAfee said um back in 2017, if Bitcoin hits a hundred thousand dollars, it's definitely going to a million.
00:38:53.000And that's the reason for that is basically because if it makes a hundred dollars.
00:39:09.000Like uh it was funny when we did that interview.
00:39:12.000We he said, Oh, I have thirty minutes for you guys, right?
00:39:14.000We started like 10 or 15 minutes early because he was in the room already.
00:39:17.000And then we were like, um, what do you call it?
00:39:19.000We'd we did the whole interview and everything, and then at the very end, which I thought he was just gonna keep going.
00:39:23.000I'm like, Oh, he's giving us more than 30 minutes, we're going like 40 minutes here.
00:39:26.000At the very end, he started talking about Kent State, all this stuff, and he started like kind of fake crying, but I thought it was true at the very beginning, right?
00:39:33.000He's like, You guys, like you kids, you know, you you're protests and stuff, like you you guys are kind of lost and all this stuff, and then he's like, You cry to stuff that he uh hangs up or whatever.
00:39:55.000Like I I didn't want to make him upset, but like I hope he's okay, right?
00:39:58.000And she was like, he's having a great day.
00:40:00.000Like he's just you know, played with us basically.
00:40:03.000But he's he's a he's controlled chaos, is what I want to say there with John McAfee.
00:40:07.000But anyways, that hundred thousand dollars, once you hit that six figures, you're gonna make a million because what's he predicted was gonna hit a hundred thousand back then?
00:40:52.000Once they they started making ETFs and they started buying, and you know, Goldman Sachs, all these guys started getting into cryptocurrency.
00:41:08.000He just didn't like publicize it like that.
00:41:10.000But he's always had uh uh a bunch of uh Bitcoin, but obviously since he's a real estate investor, right?
00:41:15.000That's what he does, and his whole thing is collecting money from people to do real estate deals, you know, it'd be counterproductive be like, yeah, go buy Bitcoin.
00:41:21.000Yeah, but he has and his brother, Grant uh Gregory, uh Gary Cardone, yeah, huge into crypto.
00:41:52.000Basically, one of the reasons why that we've found, at least with uh sports players that we've seen, a lot of the ones that come to us initially, they're like the uh guys who only have a few years in the league.
00:42:01.000Oh, and they get some money, but they're like, How do I keep this?
00:42:06.000How do I not end up like you know, Latrell Spreewell?
00:42:12.000Well, he had a hundred million dollar contract when he was with the Timberwolves or something like that, and he was like, That's not enough money, I need to feed my kids.
00:42:17.000It's like, bro, like what are you spending?
00:42:19.000But there's a there used to be a statistic that uh Charles Spree well is hilarious, but he was very good with Kevin Garnett and uh Sam Cassell back in the day.
00:42:29.000This is before five years after the league, something like that, right?
00:42:32.000Well, like not even that one, but before uh Steph Curry like popularized three point from like way long range, yep, it was a high risk play, right?
00:42:40.000And so the this is maybe probably late nineties, early two thousands stat, but they found the players basically who were willing to take more three-point shots were a lot worse off financially.
00:43:02.000And so what they and what so what they're doing now, if they're like in the league just a few years, um, like Gronk had a story where he's like, I didn't spend any of my money that I made, I just put it in a bank account and I live frugally.
00:43:56.000But I uh you m you've been pretty good with you uh predicted Bitcoin would hit 100,000 back in 2019.
00:44:01.000When do you think we'll hit one million?
00:44:02.000So my oh look, and we probably both have like different opinions on this, but or and do you guys want to open up the phone lines after this prediction?
00:44:16.000Open it up, just open it up so that way we don't get distracted with the the noise and shit like that, and then we'll have them give their predictions, read chats, and then we'll open up the phone lines so you guys can have time to cycle in and shit like that.
00:44:25.000As you guys know, the rules are the same.
00:44:27.000Uh 646 490 0394, uh put the last four digits of your number, and you get to cut the line.
00:44:39.000So um, you know, get your questions in.
00:44:41.000Uh course, we haven't even plugged it yet.
00:44:43.000It's live right now, guys, uh, for the crypto mindset course for quarter four.
00:44:47.000Um it closes on Monday, but getting while you guys can, and uh, you know, they're still keeping it at the same price point, 997, which is fantastic.
00:44:53.000And uh every yeah, with the most people that come in.
00:46:51.000And if it's not, if it's slower than what we expect, for some reason there something happens and there's like a a tripping point or something, then 2041 at absolute latest, in my opinion.
00:47:01.000That's that's pretty late in my head though.
00:47:35.000If you buy $13,000 of Bitcoin in 10, 15 years, you could probably buy a house at the end of the 2030s.
00:47:40.000That's how much it goes because once it goes expanding once the governments are actually like printing money to buy Bitcoin, the numbers are gonna start going crazy.
00:47:47.000Yeah, you know, it's interesting because like if you have like one if you got like a whole Bitcoin right now, it's like, dude, hold on to that thing forever.
00:47:55.000If you hold it long enough, you can literally but depending on one you bought in, you could take a part of it, buy a house cash, live in it, and then boom, like a majority of your spending, because most people uh spend most of their money on on on housing and then a car, right?
00:48:14.000Well, and what people are also gonna do now owning it outright?
00:48:17.000Yeah, well, people are gonna be able to do now too because banks are getting so heavily involved with digital assets and crypto because they have to, right?
00:48:24.000They're gonna start allowing you to borrow against your Bitcoin.
00:48:40.000Like you don't go down to like it's not conventional like a bank of America where they're gonna start doing that, but you guys predict within the next 10 or 15 years, it's gonna be a common thing.
00:48:48.000You go in a chase, hey, I got this much Bitcoin, I want to borrow against it.
00:49:06.000Yeah, you can find like you not used, but like there's certain dealerships that will take Bitcoin or uh it's mostly in the used kind of luxury market.
00:49:12.000There's there's like smaller players that like, yeah, we'll take tether, we'll take crypto, Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, and then we'll sell you cars.
00:49:19.000Um that's gonna become much more in the next four years, like 28, 29 is where you're gonna start seeing this a lot.
00:49:24.000Uh, but you'll be able to come into so like as an example, if you let's just say a big like if you depending on on the branch of like JP Morgan or what some of these big banks, you could come in as long as you can show proof that you bought it and stuff.
00:49:35.000I could go into a bank with a huge bar of gold and they would give me a loan on it at like the lowest interest rate possible.
00:49:41.000So you'd be you're gonna be able to go into JP Morgan with like one Bitcoin on a flash drive as an example, deposit it there or send them to their wallet, and then they'll give you like a two percent, depending on the interest rates, they'll give you like a two percent loan on that for whatever terms you want.
00:49:53.000Well, we had a guy walk into dealership.
00:49:54.000Yeah, and uh he pulled up his phone, showed us his portfolio for crypto, and got a car on a spot.
00:50:11.000So yeah, this is gonna be more and more common.
00:50:12.000And and then and think and think about this too, is like if you start selling you're selling depreciating assets for crypto, especially if it's Bitcoin or Ethereum, if you keep that like just like Grand Cardone, like he got his first Bitcoin from uh there's this guy who uh the this crypto convention that was gonna pay my speaking, right?
00:50:27.000I think it was sixty or a hundred thousand dollars for the speaking engagement for a crypto convention.
00:50:31.000He went and they asked him, Hey, could we pay you in Bitcoin instead?
00:50:57.000And it's just like, you know, all you really have to do in crypto is look at the history of both money as well as what's crypto what has happened in crypto so far.
00:51:05.000And we do often in the crypto mindset course, we teach our guys like what is the actual history of crypto because by the time we get past uh 2030, it's gonna be such a complex industry.
00:51:15.000A lot of people are gonna have a hard time remembering that stuff.
00:51:17.000Well, there's no other way you can get this rich this fast.
00:52:55.000These are the largest companies who are acting, these are treasury companies and uh entities within Ethereum that have been adding to their supply.
00:53:02.000So that's Tom Lee's you yeah, so Bitmine right there, that 2.1 uh million ETH, that's Tom Lee's, right?
00:53:08.000Sharplink gaming, that's uh Joseph Lubin, who is the head of uh MetaMask and Consensus.
00:53:13.000And then there's the Ethereum Foundation, then there's this little thing called Pulse Chain right next to Coinbase.
00:53:18.000This is actual like uh verifiable data, right?
00:53:21.000And what you'll see most people in crypto do, especially the Ethereum maxis, they will take this list and they'll want to show it because it's really good and useful information, but then they will wipe out the pulse chain site.
00:53:33.000And a couple of the other ones down there as well.
00:53:34.000And a couple of the other ones because competition.
00:53:37.000People that are not in their sphere of social influencer, yeah, their tribe, right?
00:53:43.000So it's one of these things where it's like um it's just funny for me to to watch this because people in crypto sometimes they do fight against each other a little too much, and it's like you know right now, like back before 2020 or from 2021 and before, this tribalism actually did help the projects because they were competing to kind of see like who can kind of create the best tech stack and build on top of that.
00:54:04.000Now that we have most of that, it's actually more beneficial to have the collaboration.
00:54:09.000Charles Hodgkin of Cardano actually has mentioned this quite a lot uh in crypto.
00:54:13.000If you see projects that actually work together, you can bridge liquidity between projects.
00:54:18.000Now the the risk for that is they think okay, if the liquidity goes over there, it'll never come back.
00:54:23.000But at the end of the day, if you have more usefulness, more utility between these different chains, they're gonna get use more money while coming.
00:54:29.000Can you pull that list up again one more time?
00:54:45.000Sharp link is also adding crazy, and we're just gonna soon soon enough start getting uh certain other Wall Street companies that are converting themselves over into treasury companies for Ethereum.
00:54:53.000Uh this is why we're really bullish on Ethereum and and just Bitcoin too.
00:55:21.000When it's this is the my main problem.
00:55:23.000This is what we teach our guys not to become these maximalists because it it's basically if you're not buying my religion, you're not buying my team, you know, you're against me.
00:55:31.000Are you you're drinking 13 beers with me or against me?
00:55:35.000You know, and that's that's how people are, you know.
00:55:37.000Like, I mean, as much as I don't like XRP or any of these other coins, like if I can make money on it, I'll make money on it.
00:55:41.000You know, I I think XRP is going to go up because guess what?
00:55:44.000They're there's gonna be a treasury company coming up that to buy XRP.
00:56:58.000We're gonna get Chainlink ETF, we're gonna get a Solana ETF.
00:57:01.000That the Avax one, the Avax, Avax and Um and uh Solana are the really big hyped ones right now because Solon obviously that's all that's where all the mean coins are and stuff like this.
00:57:12.000But Avax is mostly kind of doing more of the government side, kind of, it seems like to me.
00:57:17.000And then Solana is obviously the government, the bank and government where like Solana is more of like retail buyers plus like Trump administration VC side and stuff like that.
00:57:26.000But it's but it's been the most popular one, so it's gonna do really well.
00:57:58.000So let's give a couple different recommendations, all right?
00:58:01.000So I I'm gonna go with uh let's go with super simple, and then let's go with like okay, you're going in a little bit harder in the paint, right?
00:58:09.000So the super simple one is Bitcoin and Ethereum.
00:58:14.000It depends on like why are you buying it?
00:58:17.000Are you buying it just to have a savings that you're gonna hold there for 10 years, or are you going to try to maximize it and you know grow it up?
00:58:25.000Build it up, um, do cultivate crypto basically, right?
00:58:28.000Um, so let's do the the first one where you're just gonna buy and hold.
00:58:31.000You could buy you buy Ethereum and Bitcoin as much as you want any day of the week.
00:58:36.000I think it was uh Arkinvest Kathy Woods, her son, um, is just buying uh a big grip of Bitcoin once a month, is doing that basically until uh you know he's into his working age, or I don't know how old he is exactly, but uh until he's quite a bit older.
00:58:51.000And so you could do that for like 10 years, sit on it for the rest of your life, sell it, borrow on it, do whatever you want.
00:58:58.000If you want to maximize it this cycle, then I would say probably before next spring, right?
00:59:05.000Buy whatever coins you want now that you think are gonna be successful, but let's say Bitcoin Ethereum, then probably take profits on them between now and next spring, and then buy back again Q4 of 26 or Q1 of 27.
00:59:26.000Um Solana, I would say, right now is a really good coin to buy.
00:59:30.000The other one, the one that I like right now, just because the chart is like looking like it's gonna break out no problem once Bitcoin gets back above 125k, is uh Avax.
00:59:38.000I mentioned that on the Friday stream as well.
00:59:40.000So you buy AVAX under 35 dollars, the next price targets it's gonna go to this cycle, most likely are 60, 90, and possibly 120.
00:59:50.000Yeah, before and that's even if it doesn't make a new all-time high, it can hit those levels.
00:59:54.000And if it does make a new all-time high, it might be a few hundred bucks.
00:59:57.000And so that one within the next few months, I think is a little bit further down the totem pole.
01:00:02.000And so for that reason, you make a little bit more money, you outpace Bitcoin Ethereum by a little bit more.
01:00:08.000Um, and then you kind of have to understand crypto a little bit more to really get into that one.
01:00:32.000I'm looking for like you have to invest like a man, not like a woman.
01:00:35.000A woman wants to buy all-time highs, they want to fuck the winner, right?
01:00:39.000Everybody wants to buy Bitcoin when Bitcoin, like if they say Bitcoin crossed $200,000 to say, Miguel, Charlie, do I buy Bitcoin right now at $200,000?
01:00:56.000People always want to buy it when it's green, when it's all time highs, which is wrong.
01:00:59.000You like investing like you can't invest like a female.
01:01:01.000You have to invest like a man, you have to make these investments.
01:01:04.000So I look at like dogs as an example, because like I've already got my Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, I've got these positions already locked in now.
01:01:11.000I'm looking into buying Avax as and pump just yet.
01:01:14.000I'm looking to buy AVAX very underrated.
01:01:51.000And if it crashes below, like if it goes down to 16, I'll buy there, and then I've got my bags packed.
01:01:56.000Then pulse chain stuff, I've got it backpacked already.
01:01:59.000You might buy a little more e-hex and stuff just because it's cheap on Ethereum and there's gonna be like ETH maxies or just people that don't want to bridge in, they'll just buy that.
01:02:06.000There's um then there's meme coins and stuff, but that's just super speculation stuff.
01:02:10.000So guys, real quick, um, on my kick, we're ending it real fast.
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01:02:38.000Bill's gonna end this, so come on over guys.
01:02:40.000Sorry, also with that just that information alone.
01:02:42.000You guys heard from Charlie Miguel, you can make a lot of money.
01:03:17.000Yeah, this is why we structure our business this way too, right?
01:03:20.000So we have our our crypto mindset course, which uh if you don't know about this stuff, you have to get that first.
01:03:26.000Um just because it's like the the boot camp to crypto and like it'll really get you going, right?
01:03:31.000Um, but then after that, like we have guys who take maybe two courses a year, they've been with us for a while, and then the other group that we have is called the Citadel, it's just like our monthly group, kind of like you guys have Castle Club.
01:03:41.000Um and that at least, you know, people if they need to take a little time off or whatever, that at least keeps them kind of up to speed.
01:03:47.000So we make sure to uh give that group a lot of information as well as on, I mean, hell, if people just watch our YouTube, right?
01:03:53.000Uh Cultivate Crypto and Dollar Cost Crypto, um, they're gonna get tons of this information for free um as well.
01:03:59.000But in October, we'll be dedicated only to the course, so we won't be doing YouTube.
01:04:03.000But between now and the end of this month, um, just like we're coming here and talking to you guys, we're gonna be talking a lot about this stuff going into the end of the year.
01:04:10.000Yeah, because we're gonna be we're gonna be taking care of our guys to like the end of the year and making sure that like look, there's gonna be a local top.
01:04:15.000There's gonna be it could be it could be in October, could be November, where we're gonna get like the Bitcoin top for the year.
01:04:21.000Doesn't mean the cycle's over, but taking some profits there, making sure cash on hand.
01:04:25.000And if it it is confirmed, oh shit, the cycle is over, you know, we sell out of everything else, and then we try to buy the Bitcoin bottom, but very likely because of all the money printing, drone pal getting replaced in in uh May of tw uh May 12th.
01:04:38.000Um these the the money printing that's gonna happen through the overnight repo market um and all and all those kind of indices there.
01:04:44.000Um basically the market could continue to keep going up, as well as we're heading into uh into an ICO season.
01:04:50.000We're having a lot of the largest crypto exchanges go public in 2026, early 26.
01:04:56.000Like we're still we're we're not in October yet, but we still have a ton of ETFs that haven't passed yet.
01:05:01.000So we're about to go through a whole ETF boom that's still going on.
01:05:04.000And on top of that, we have a lot of companies that want to do treasuries.
01:05:07.000That means convert over them or like either add crypto to the treasury of like their main company or become like a company that only buys one crypto.
01:05:14.000It's happening even for Litecoin, believe it or not.
01:05:16.000There's like a hundred million dollar company from Charlie Lee that's uh there's gonna be buy a hundred million dollars of Litecoin.
01:05:21.000Another, I think there's a I think uh yes or no today there's it was announced.
01:05:24.000So we have a company that's buying a billion dollars of Avax.
01:05:27.000Another one just got announced today of another 500 million dollars of Avax that's gonna be purchased.
01:05:32.000So now there's like 1.5 billion dollars of buying pressure for what?
01:05:38.000Uh Crow tokens gonna have multi-billions of dollars of purchasing power coming from mostly the Trump administration and and World Liberty Fi.
01:05:45.000So the Crow tokens at 22 cents right now, too.
01:05:49.000So you just try to look like if you're and there's new uh new coins coming out, actually.
01:05:54.000Um Bitfinix is coming out with a coin in the next one week uh called Plasma, which is gonna be a brand new layer one.
01:06:00.000And if Bitfinix is doing something, right, it's something to pay attention to, they're gonna try to eat a little bit of lunch uh from Tron's plate.
01:06:07.000Um we got all sorts of stuff always happening.
01:07:32.000And um I went on the telegram, and I'm putting my information, but I didn't get any response back to know if I'm officially in the course or not.
01:07:40.000So the process for that is basically when you buy the course within twenty-four hours, uh you should get an email um that's from us support at cultivate crypto.com or Charlie at cultivate crypto dot com.
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01:08:15.000We have uh basically uh what do you call it?
01:08:19.000So um he's working hard every day, so he'll get that as soon as you get that to him.
01:08:22.000But uh yeah, once you're in there then um you'll have uh access to the whole chat and you'll be able to prepare for everything.
01:08:29.000We already have some uh resource links pinned at the top of that chat that uh tell you like stuff about wallets and different ways to custody coins and all that stuff.
01:08:36.000Yeah, and uh download Twitter if you don't have it already, because we're gonna give you guys like uh ways to research on Twitter and Instagram and stuff like that for crypto.
01:08:43.000But we'll we'll we'll have we'll teach you in the course.
01:08:55.000You're gonna get two you're gonna get a link to the regular chat, and then another one's called the Links Chat, which is gonna give you like all the official videos and like official announcements, and then every day you should just check the the the top of the telegram chat if we as well pin some information, a stream, or basically the s the schedule, because uh we have the schedule up already.
01:09:40.000Like we've been in it since last year, uh something since uh the last cycle.
01:09:44.000Uh we had a lot of video game companies jump in and use subnets and they worked flawlessly.
01:09:48.000Basically, you can you could have a coin that doesn't that that isn't an L1, just move over, create a subnet on Avax, and then basically you like their meme token or I'm surprised more memes don't do this actually.
01:10:00.000You can make like your own meme chain and use like Dogecoin as an example as the gas token for it and stuff like that, and then you bridge in and stuff like that.
01:10:48.000Like so people are in their c you know, you had the E thoughts and you had regular crypto bros and then you just had crazies.
01:10:53.000Like people like if the coin goes to a million market cap, like I'll start shocking this dude in a cage.
01:10:59.000And of course they're friends and stuff, but then there's w there's videos that came out that started going like, Oh, wait, th this is starting to look like torture or weird.
01:11:06.000Like there's a lot of weird stuff going on.
01:11:09.000Um, and that's where all the memes like, are you new to the trenches?
01:11:12.000Are you new to the you know, dude missing teeth, hair fucking fried, like peanut butter over his fucking fake just craziness, right?
01:11:18.000So now they've cleaned it up, you know.
01:11:19.000Um now you have guys like Gainesy and Gainesy's kinda like one of the top guys on like pump.tv and stuff like that.
01:11:25.000He's uh streaming on there, he's from uh I think he's in Thailand.
01:11:28.000Um and you know, you're starting to have like kind of like Twitter celebrities launching YouTube channels but on that website and stuff to basically make meme coins and just kind of talk stuff and everything like that, and they're getting paid in tokens and stuff, but you also are gonna have that for radium, which is like bonk dot fund and you have Jupiter as well.
01:11:46.000So you kind of have like now there's like a three legged race now.
01:11:48.000Uh because beforehand, like I was not the biggest one of p uh biggest fan of pump.fund because you know them boys own it and all they were doing is they were taking them basically they made a billion dollars in fees and they were just dumping Solana.
01:12:00.000So Solana would be way higher in price.
01:12:02.000But every time they would make money, they just kept selling the Solana into cash.
01:12:07.000Like they would just send money to Binance or this or Coinbase or Kraken, and they were just consistently dumping Solana the whole way up.
01:12:13.000So Solon Solana could have very easily been a hundred dollars higher if you didn't have these guys just consistently dumping Solana the entire time.
01:12:21.000But we wouldn't have had the mean coin run without them either.
01:12:23.000So it's kind of like, but you know, usually if you're a crypto company, you sell like you could have taken a hundred million dollars and had that for your treasury, but instead they, you know, they took almost like 800 to like a billion dollars of of funds, and now like because there's competition now through Radium, Bunk Fund, and like Jupiter, um, they're like they're now they just did a hundred million dollar buyback on their token, which doubled the price, and they're now like they feel the sweat now.
01:12:45.000So now they brought back their streaming service.
01:12:47.000So it's sort of like we're in the rumble kick wars right now, in like um, along with like there's basically a streaming work going on right now.
01:13:32.000But um, yeah, so we begin on October 2nd, 10 a.m. and 10 p.m. is Eastern Standard Time.
01:13:37.000So that's 7 a.m., 7 p.m. uh Pacific standard time.
01:13:41.000And uh each webinar is roughly about uh three hours in total.
01:13:45.000Um, and we have about two hours of that focused on the main subject and one hour of QA.
01:13:50.000Um, and there's a there's a mixture of that depending on each webinar.
01:13:53.000But we're starting there with a customized orientation.
01:13:57.000So we want everybody to, as soon as they buy the course, um, to be put in the chat immediately, um, start talking with people, start figuring out uh like the different tools that they need to set up and everything like that.
01:14:07.000And we're gonna start polling the group and asking them questions uh about you know, where are they in their crypto investment strategies?
01:14:14.000Uh, where are they with their knowledge base, like all this different type of stuff?
01:14:18.000And we're gonna customize a lot of the information that we give to the people that are taking the course this time around.
01:14:24.000So um, this is a lot more what do you call it, easier to do with a lot of the AI technology that exists today.
01:14:30.000It's something that we haven't been able to do before.
01:14:32.000And so we're gonna it's not that we're changing everything that we're teaching here, where it's just that we're customizing it to the situations of people that are in the actual course.
01:14:40.000And then uh uh so we're gonna ask a lot of questions in there, we're gonna give a lot of answers to people's questions in there.
01:14:46.000Then we're gonna do the Q4 thesis, which we do this every quarter, which is what do we think is gonna happen in crypto over the next three months, and then how does that affect um the move possibly into next year?
01:14:58.000Uh so we go through uh a lot of different kind of war gaming type scenarios in there.
01:15:02.000You know, what's the most likely scenarios?
01:15:04.000What are the other possible scenarios and how do we hedge our uh situations against them?
01:15:10.000Uh then we have the risk management and security webinar.
01:15:14.000So this one we have uh at this point for two reasons on October 3rd, and we do two days on, two days off.
01:15:19.000So we you see the second and third there, then we have the fourth and fifth off, and then we go back on the sixth and the seventh.
01:15:24.000So risk management we put there before we get into a lot of you know the top 50 uh coin list portfolio strategies and stuff, because a lot of people go all in on one coin or they do stuff that we absolutely do not recommend, and then they get angry about it at some point in the future, right?
01:15:43.000Because they didn't take self-responsibility on the risk that they created for themselves.
01:15:47.000So we want to make sure that everybody watches this webinar before they we get into like, hey, here's what coins are good and stuff like that, so they really understand that.
01:15:55.000Also, um, it's not very often, but every once in a while, somebody will make a mistake with their own security.
01:16:00.000We talk about, you know, making sure you don't have one central point of failure, making sure all your money is not on a centralized exchange.
01:16:07.000You want your own wallets that you hold in self-custody of the coins yourself, right?
01:16:10.000So we're gonna go over that security, uh kind of security one oh one in crypto, and you know, make sure you do these best practices so that you don't get screwed.
01:16:18.000And one just one thing on that security part because like please do not use ledgers.
01:16:23.000Um, we've just found that people have gone there's all been a lot of hacks with people that have ledgers, and for the love of God, if anyone calls you or you try to every calling people, support lines fake.
01:16:35.000If someone emails you, tells you you have to call this number, it's fake.
01:16:39.000There's no real okay, there is a real number, but it's no, you're not gonna call it's it's no.
01:16:44.000There's they're not gonna be able to get your money back.
01:16:46.000There's just you get you're gonna get scammed, or they use they like a let a lot of the ledger data.
01:16:50.000So people were using ledger, you know, some people have their house information, their names and stuff, you know, logged into some of some of these websites, it all got leaked, and scammers know that information.
01:16:59.000They're also looking on the dark web, and then from there, they're just they they can get they call you saying, Hey, we're from Ledger or we're from this organization here.
01:17:07.000You call them, you give them information, and then boom, you they jack you and they they steal all your money out of a bunch of wallets and stuff.
01:17:15.000Um, so like I've you know, I really recommend Trezor, of course, but you know, we're gonna have safety uh we're gonna have like that safety class is gonna be really really important.
01:17:23.000But once you figure once you know how to do the safety, it it's it is it's pretty simple.
01:17:27.000I've seen the scam where they text you from Coinbase saying lies.
01:17:31.000All like any text, no, don't believe it.
01:17:33.000Text an email, unless I literally just went to Coinbase and I deposited $30,000, or I just bought a a hundred dollars of a coin and you get an email and you're saying, hey, your your purchase of a hundred dollars.
01:17:44.000But if you just get, hey, somebody withdrew a hundred thousand dollars from your account and you're like, dude, I don't got a hundred thousand dollars, you know, it's fake, right?
01:17:50.000Or they play games or they're like, Whoa, um, someone just try to withdraw $15,000 from Coinbase, and it's like, well, and then you're like, what the hell?
01:17:57.000Or someone just uh initiated a $15,000 purchase of a coin, though let's say Solana, Bitcoin, Ethereum, and then never click an email link.
01:18:05.000Look, email links are being they're fishing.
01:18:10.000Don't don't believe uh if you would like I need I need MetaMask support fake.
01:18:15.000If literally there's algorithms and there's AI bots that if you type in um MetaMask support, you'll get DM'd to buy like 30 accounts all pretending to be like, hey, I'm from MetaMask, let me help you.
01:18:25.000It's you know, you're giving your money to a fucking Indian.
01:19:34.000So I'm just gonna give Avax as an example because a lot of the times when you look at some of the top layer ones, they'll give you kind of a benchmark for where things can go.
01:19:43.000So if we look at Bitcoin, Ethereum, and AVAX, just uh or and Solana as like maybe three or four examples, right?
01:19:49.000So Bitcoin, could it be uh lower by the end of the year?
01:19:55.000But let's go with a scenario that um we pump higher because a lot of the data is basically telling us that with ETFs, uh uh rate cuts and all the things.
01:20:58.000Either 60 or 90 dollars um is very, very likely if Bitcoin gets back above 125 or 130,000.
01:21:05.000So if you kind of look at that, right, for Ethereum, that's not quite a 2x for Bitcoin, that's that's less than that.
01:21:12.000Um, but for Solana and Avax, it's like a two or three X. So those are kind of like the safe moves that you can see.
01:21:18.000Something like Pengu, I think within the quarter, it might not end the quarter this high, but within the quarter, um, it could get towards 10 to 12 cents, maybe 11 cents, something like that.
01:21:29.000Um, it's like three and a half cents right now, so that's about a four X. And so then when you go further down the risk curve, right, you get more X possibilities.
01:21:39.000And you need and you need what the the if the here's the what ifs with like a pengu or like uh a uh uh a sausage party or like a bonk is that you need Solana to break its all-time high.
01:21:49.000So like some these coins will do really decent, but without Solana going past $300 and hold so once Solana goes to $300, $330, $400, then it's oh shit, it's Solana season, dog.
01:22:01.000It's meme season, and then these coins speculation-wise bonk will go up a lot on Solana, you know, you will have uh, you know, nobody sausage go up, you'll have um you know Pengu go up, which is one of the better coins, and you can make a lot of multiples on that.
01:22:14.000But if if Solana doesn't do that, then that doesn't happen.
01:22:18.000And then you're like, oh fuck, this quarter's wasted, goddamn it.
01:22:20.000You know, so I I think on an average, you know, anywhere between a two to a five X for most coins is realistic.
01:22:26.000Um and so like if you're getting gains of about like a three or a four X, right?
01:22:31.000Take your original out of that, um, take the profit there, even if you think it's still gonna go up into next year, um, secure that money so that way you know you're playing more with casino chips.
01:22:40.000But um, yeah, there's there's really good possibilities in Q4.
01:22:43.000If you look at Q3 versus Q4, Q3 was really good, right?
01:22:51.000But um Q4, if you look at uh returns on Bitcoin and crypto uh overall year on year, Q4 is uh almost always the best quarter.
01:23:00.000Yeah, and someone said right here, like Bonk's ass.
01:23:02.000I would have agreed with you, but I have to just be real.
01:23:05.000Like the the they have a partnership with with Radium now.
01:23:07.000Radium's one of the top exchanges on Solana.
01:23:10.000Um they're working with World Liberty Fi.
01:23:12.000They're the uh now uh radium have radium is essentially fusing their like their version of like pump.fund with bonk dot fund, and there's also gonna be a crow investment.
01:23:22.000So now you have basically Trump administration, crypto.com with crow token, you have you have radium and then bonk.
01:23:28.000So now you have you know uh uh basically a four-pronged sort of like thing on this meme coin.
01:23:34.000So it's like, well, there's enough, there's enough here, and on top of that, you have um this is the first coin I've seen that has this uh so far.
01:23:40.000I think it's turtle, I think it's turtle capital or uh two tel capital.
01:23:44.000Um they're launching a levered ETF for for bonk.
01:23:48.000I I think it's a two or three X levered as well as like an income version of it as well for Litecoin, uh, Avax and uh Bonk.
01:23:55.000I that's the first time it's happened.
01:23:57.000And so it's so I'm seeing okay, there's gonna be an ETF coming out for it.
01:24:00.000There's now the trend the kind of World Liberty Fi is behind it, now crypto.com is behind it, and on top of that, now Radium's partnership with it.
01:24:07.000So I'm like, okay, there's enough smoke there that I'm willing to take a shot on it to try to make some money.
01:24:13.000Because I think I thought for real, I like I think Bonk was pretty ass too.
01:24:16.000But now with all this, it's like I'm I mean, fuck it, let's take a shot.
01:24:20.000But you have to, but you have to be willing to take that risk and stuff, and then but at the same time too, if Solana just shits the bed, then no no five, you know, if Solana doesn't cook, then it then everything else doesn't cook.
01:24:42.000That was one of the main things I took away.
01:24:44.000Yeah, from the Q. I think if you look at the Suey chart, it's much more coiled up.
01:24:48.000So I think it'll actually probably do better within the quarter by the end of the cycle, it might be a little different.
01:24:52.000But um, yeah, so he's my my main target on Suey once it breaks back above about four dollars and fifty cents, and especially once it gets to a new all-time high, uh, is it's baked in going towards ten bucks as long as Bitcoin's all-time high is not in this cycle.
01:25:05.000And that that's one of the main things that we teach in the first four webinars of the crypto mindset course is that Bitcoin and Ethereum are our thermometers.
01:25:13.000If they're if like Bitcoin or Ethereum are going down, everything else isn't cooking.
01:25:20.000But if we have Bitcoin and Ethereum pumping up and they're chilling, or or Ethereum starts going up like crazy Ethereum, the the number I've been looking for Ethereum for a long time, and guys know this.
01:25:27.000I've been saying this for fucking six months, fifty-two hundred dollar Ethereum.
01:25:31.000Once we're at fifty-two, we're we're within four hundred dollars higher than then the all-time high in 21.
01:25:36.000That means Asia, because Asia always bought higher, the kimchi premium.
01:25:41.000In America, we hit 4800 on average, most, you know, Europe, Asia, and stuff like that.
01:25:45.000But um, but out out in like Korea, Japan, and some of these other, they paid up the nose, and then they are all-time highs like in the in the five in the low five thousands.
01:25:52.000So once we're at fifty two hundred dollars sustained, then you start having a lot of L1s and L2s running up because Ethereum is like tied to liquidity pools and DEXs to everything.
01:26:02.000Um, as well as like right now, the number one risk play right now is like Aster, right?
01:26:06.000It's the Aster Liquid, you know, like you have hyperliquid versus Aster, which is Binance versus essentially Ethereum, in a way.
01:26:12.000Like there's kind of a uh Joseph Lubin connection there now as well with like uh they just had MetaMask swaps are not gonna allow it with hyperliquid, and because you have to it's this shit's like gang warfare.
01:26:22.000You have to look at like who's who's on what gang, right?
01:26:24.000There's there's there's a Binance click, which is the eight was the Asian boys out of Singapore, and then you've got Joseph Lubin, and you got basically PayPal Mafia, you know, Trump administration mafia, and then you've got the the the Ethereum boys, and then you got the Solana VCs, which also are in bed with the Trump administration.
01:26:43.000And seriously, but you have to learn we this is we teach you guys all this stuff because they're there the because this game has been now in a it's a game of like the big dogs basically, large uh organizations.
01:26:53.000You have to see who's clicked up with who.
01:26:55.000And like now, hyperliquid's basically clicked up with the Ethereum Foundation.
01:26:58.000That's why recently Binance started dumping a ton of Ethereum recently to basically fuck over hyperliquid because hyperliquid allowed you to short Aster now.
01:27:06.000Astor said, fuck you guys, we're gonna let we're gonna allow you to short hyperliquid now.
01:27:10.000So it's bloods versus credit in the crypto game.
01:29:15.000It takes time to set up everything, but we always tell people the Coinbase account will be fast, cash ups really fast as well, and then you could but CashUp only sells Bitcoin.
01:29:26.000Uh I just don't use it because like uh I got crypto.com and I thought I was gonna show more of like Ethereum, crypto, and all that other stuff.
01:29:38.000I'd be buying on either one, but uh like let's say if let's say you buy like five thousand dollars worth over the next you know two years, right?
01:29:47.000Um or even just over the next few months, whatever you're gonna buy, right?
01:29:50.000If you want to self-custody it, one of the easiest self-custody wallets is Exodus wallet.
01:31:56.000Uh my question is uh do you see it reviving?
01:31:59.000Um considering flying tulip and you know, the USA um collaboration and everything like that.
01:32:06.000I I definitely do that's why I'm gonna I'm I'm basically going to make a DCA pretty soon at it's basically at it the all time low right now, the cycle low on this coin at twenty-four or twenty-five cents.
01:32:15.000And then I've said if it does crack below it, the next level would be probably like sixteen cents, and it I think it's gonna get pretty much maintained there.
01:32:22.000Um it could be that right now the lows in right now, and then we're gonna start going up.
01:32:26.000But yeah, all these things are gonna take time, so it's gonna be like October, November, December into January to get all the stuff up and running.
01:32:32.000But yeah, they're they're they've essentially cr uh allocated like fifty million dollars to set up their brand new headquarters of Sonic in New York to get compliant.
01:32:40.000They're going to try to get a Nasdaq listing.
01:32:43.000And uh with the new regulation on ETFs, it's very likely we might actually get a Sonic ETF before the end of 26.
01:32:50.000Uh they've also raised a lot of money.
01:32:52.000I think they're uh raising another 40 million dollars for flying tulip.
01:32:55.000Um, which you have to have like a million dollars to get in minimum, just FYI.
01:32:59.000But um, but flying tulip is basically the third r rate.
01:33:03.000So it's just like how we said, like there's kind of always three like there's always like three entities always, like kind of like pump dot fund, bonk dot fund, and then whatever ju uh whatever Jupiter's doing.
01:33:14.000Um, but basically there's always kind of like three players, right?
01:33:17.000So you we're gonna have three players in the game.
01:33:18.000We have hyperliquid, Aster, and Flying Tulip.
01:33:21.000These are gonna be the three largest kind of perp dexes, like um, and basically uh which which is basically it's a decentralized exchange where you can long and short at like really fast speed and stuff like that.
01:33:31.000So um flying tulip, from what I've heard, is basically helping um a lot of the other competitors as well.
01:33:40.000So there's like the there's a lot of collaboration there.
01:33:42.000So like I'm still trying to figure out even myself is are they allying themselves with warm with Binance?
01:33:47.000Because that's what I've been hearing.
01:33:48.000But at the same time too, I know that the f the uh Sonic organization is really highly tied to the Ethereum Foundation and Get Lab.
01:33:54.000So like why wouldn't they help out Hyperliquid as well?
01:33:56.000So it's like what we're um so I think it's really w a good.
01:34:00.000Uh I think um I think when it launches, it could bring in like a billion dollars of TV L over to Sonic, but they're going to launch on multiple blockchains.
01:34:06.000So flying tulip is gonna launch on like on uh Solana, I believe, and then from there it could possibly go maybe even go into Avax and uh I don't think base protocol because they're competitors, but I think they're gonna launch on multiple places, Arbitrum possibly, and um there's just this big there's just gonna be this big game to basically set up these perp, these kind of decentralized perp dexes, pretty much.
01:34:28.000We're gonna enter we're good, we're gonna right now it's kind of the two, it's Binance versus kind of Ethereum OGs, and we're gonna get like flying tulip jumping in.
01:34:35.000like i personally wish that flying to have launched earlier like it would have been nice if it launched before aster basically but but right now if you look on twitter and stuff aster is a fucking piece of shit that doesn't work because the hyper liquid guys say so but like it's performing really really well but then people then the hyper liquid guys are saying that aster's dog shit because it's been around for two years and then it just rebranded and just casisi pumped it and stuff i mean it's so funny to watch everyone cope and stuff because like now now uh hyper liquid isn't pumping anymore and arthur hayes just sold his entire supply so
01:35:03.000like it's it's straight up warfare right now and uh uh the thing is I don't I don't doubt CZ is the crime lord he is the most one of the most powerful people in crypto and um don't you don't fade C Z man always have probation four more months baby four more months.
01:35:19.000So I'm still bullish on Sonic but like I like have my backs packed I'm just making my final DCAs and I'm just willing to take the risk basically so I like I'm buying here at 24 cents 25 cents and I'll buy if it goes lower I'll buy one more time that's it I'm not putting no more capital pretty sure I guess no problem brother.
01:35:40.000All right yeah who's up next yeah shout out to Tom Lee next up we have six eight three six you're up six eight three six you are up uh my name is Misha I'm from Idaho and my question is uh to Charlie do you still think that Bitcoin's gonna hit 200,000
01:36:00.000dollars at the end of the year GG baby and then um do you how can you tell when something's gonna completely dump and something's just gonna hit their all time low like for instance Sonic.
01:36:17.000Um so just in terms of Bitcoin right so the the background with my bet with GG is that um last year uh or maybe no it was June of 23 he was on our podcast in Vegas uh both me and Miguel uh we're chilling with him he's a good guy and um what do you call it he was saying Bitcoin's never gonna hit 100,000 The banks won't let it.
01:38:00.000I ain't doing like November or some bullshit like that, right?
01:38:03.000And he said, same bet, $20,000, that Bitcoin won't hit $200,000.
01:38:07.000uh or I said uh like I said I wanted to do 180 but he wanted to do 200 and then he upped it at some point to 205.
01:38:14.000I'm like all right all right we'll we'll stop there I was like is it possible sure do I actually think Bitcoin's gonna hit 205,000 within this year personally I actually think I'm probably gonna lose the bet.
01:38:23.000So you know shout out to GG uh I'll pay you the 20k this uh January 1st you know it's all good um so it's kind of a funny bet so I think Bitcoin's much more uh much more likely to hit um between about a hundred and fifty to a hundred and seventy five K somewhere within that region my I was thinking I would have bet easily on 180k by the end of this year.
01:38:45.000Um by the end of the cycle though actually if we do get a speculative crazy blow off top um we could hit somewhere like you know uh 210 220 250 250 is my absolute like okay if we get a quarter million dollar bitcoin every bitcoin OG in the world is gonna be massively selling their bags and so we're probably not gonna get beyond there and that would have to mean we we basically pump into next spring so end of Q1 or beginning of Q2 next year.
01:39:10.000So um that that's kind of the background there.
01:39:12.000In terms of tops and bottoms, we actually have a uh course extension if you join this crypto mindset course called the Take Profits course, um, where we give you tons of on chain data that we've been collecting here since 2022 about how to spot tops.
01:39:26.000So I mean is we got literally uh like six, seven webinars um to describe that.
01:39:32.000So uh I would say get in the course to to jump on that.
01:39:51.000Uh forgot I I can't remember off the top of my head.
01:39:54.000I'd have to go open the chart and and remember it, but um there's this one chart on there basically that has the the lows for Bitcoin each cycle, and if you go below that line, um then you generally have a good time to buy.
01:40:05.000So we'll talk about that in the course, of course.
01:40:07.000Uh, but then also in terms of timing, easiest time for for Bitcoin's four year cycle low will be between uh October of next year uh to December of next year.
01:40:17.000Um that generally is uh the time where we get the the four year cycle low, and it'll be generally because Bitcoin every single cycle goes down a little bit less uh in volatility from top to bottom.
01:40:29.000Uh I think it was ninety-four percent a few cycles ago, then it was eighty-four percent, so it's a ten percent difference, and then it was seventy-seven percent, so that was not quite a ten percent difference.
01:40:38.000So I think this cycle will be somewhere between 70 to 70 percent 70 to 75 percent down, which if the top was already in, right?
01:40:45.000Which I don't think it is because a lot of the metrics just uh there's literally only like maybe one metric that hit uh but the other bunch did not.
01:40:53.000Um, but if we went down it was 124,500 high, it'd be like 130 or sorry be like 33,000 to 38,000 dollar bitcoin would be somewhere within that range.
01:41:02.000If we hit 200,000 Bitcoin, then 70 percent.
01:41:05.000Which would be a gift, by the way, if you could buy Bitcoin at 30 grand.
01:41:07.000Because the next number Charlie's about to say, oof it's about uh it's still gonna it's it's not cheap.
01:41:13.000Bitcoin ain't cheap anymore, you guys.
01:41:14.000And so if we hit 200,000 within this cycle, doesn't matter when it is.
01:41:18.000Let's say it's in February of next year.
01:41:20.000We hit 200,000 Bitcoin, but then it drops 70% from top to bottom.
01:41:24.000It'll the timing wise, it'll just be a shorter bear market, so uh based on four year cycles, so it will still be within that Q4 of next year.
01:41:31.000Um, but it'll be go from like 200,000 down to like uh sixty thousand dollars or sixty nine thousand dollars, which maybe seven if it's bought heavy right, maybe fifty-five somewhere within there, uh where Germany sold.
01:41:41.000So uh unfortunate for them, but yeah, somewhere with the question real quick.
01:41:56.000No, you're gonna you're gonna be loving that data.
01:41:58.000Like you jump into that uh uh top uh cycle data and stuff.
01:42:02.000Like it's a lot of information that we had not given in previous courses at all for the last few years because we've been accumulating that data um for the top of this cycle.
01:42:11.000And that's on the cash out course and stuff like that.
01:42:12.000So we're gonna take and then we're gonna be taking the guys for the whole I mean until the next crypto mindset course, which won't be till next year.
01:42:18.000Yeah, and you know, we're agreeing with Barry as well.
01:42:22.000I just want to learn technical analysis.
01:42:24.000This is the absolutely we got a whole webinar on that.
01:42:26.000I don't know Mo, you want to throw up that uh calendar one more time, just real quick.
01:42:58.000And then we also get pre-precorded uh webinars from the past to also just give you more information on like technical analysis and fundamental analysis.
01:43:06.000So yeah, we take we make sure that you know what you're doing, brother.
01:43:38.000So 83 says, which is better to get your quarter for course or a year in your telegram paid chat.
01:43:46.000So if you are brand new to crypto, obviously the course 100%.
01:43:49.000Now, if you have a portfolio already and it's already larger, I think you take the bundle basically, just because you'd be able to navigate taking profits and then basically reallocating again on the next dip, whether it's in January or maybe it's middle of uh November.
01:44:02.000But the the telegram group is a like we have guys that just get into everything basically.
01:44:05.000Yeah, and I I I couldn't even mind just about in here.
01:44:23.000And then it speeds it's speeds run you to the point where like you know what you're doing, you know how to open exchanges, you know how to move your money in crypto, and you know, you really it one thing that we get uh like we get this all the time is that people take the course one time and then they're like, Oh, bro, like I listen to these other shows, and they're like I could tell they're lying to me.
01:44:38.000Yep, they're like they're totally they don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
01:44:41.000And you know, we have there's much more critical.
01:44:51.000Like you're starting to get that in XRP.
01:44:53.000This is one thing I've been saying a lot.
01:44:54.000Like, I I gotta give them their flowers XRP a little bit, but like XRP's paying a bunch of bimbos on Twitter and on market Instagram marketing and stuff.
01:45:06.000You know, and and this is what we're talking about, but there's a guy version of that where like there's like a super cleaned up guy knows all this stuff and everything, like then you hear him on a live stream, like like we were talking about like I think Myron was saying this, he's like being live is like is like legitimately like the hardest thing to do and stuff because you're on you're all you're on the gun.
01:45:21.000You're on the you know, um if you fuck up, you fuck up.
01:45:24.000You have to really know your shit to do live streams.
01:45:26.000Where a lot of content in crypto is like pre-recorded crap.
01:45:28.000Like you could you cut all the ums and ahs out and everything like that, and yeah, as soon as you hear these guys talk, they're idiots.
01:45:34.000They don't know how to talk, they don't really they like the biggest thing is like they they start talking in like crypto terms, and like they're they're talking like re like they're not really they're they're getting the terms wrong.
01:45:44.000You're like it's it's like some of them are paid actors too.
01:45:47.000Yeah, there's a lot of paid actors and stuff, yeah.
01:46:20.000Not terrible, but I mean it it look so obvious, obviously, like you know you want to pay off a debt, but here's the problem is like you're like it's speculation right now, right?
01:46:29.000It's like it be like I personally, yeah, I'd wait.
01:46:31.000I wait to like hopefully hopefully it's not a credit, it's it's very very unlikely it's a credit card, it's probably a personal loan.
01:46:37.000Um, but the way I would the way I do it, I just I'd wait to get higher prices to then take profits on it and stuff like that, but you also gotta be able to stomach if like the prices go down, you just got I mean you have to take the L on it and stuff like no risk, no story.
01:47:05.000Let's say you did liquidate your whole portfolio.
01:47:08.000Well, the the one risk of that, right, is like Miguel said, no risk, no story.
01:47:11.000You might be giving up uh further gains within this cycle.
01:47:15.000But if you did do the conservative route and paid off that debt, which is nice to be debt-free, that's what an amazing thing in this, especially in the United States.
01:47:23.000Um, and let's say you're debt free, right?
01:47:26.000Then the next two years, you are working harder than anybody.
01:47:30.000You are basically out there hustling, trying to find as much money.
01:47:33.000Hell, go get some aluminum cans off the street.
01:47:35.000There's this guy in Brazil recently, the last five years, he's just been collect collecting aluminum cans, finally bought one big one full Bitcoin with that.
01:47:43.000And so do that for two years, really understand the industry, get in the course, you know, to get your foundation of the of there, and then just work really hard over the next two years because Q4.
01:47:53.000I didn't want to call it a course because you guys are gonna do Zoom calls with them.
01:48:16.000So here's like I don't want to make the guy feel bad here, but look, he has like 34,000.
01:48:19.000If he pays off the debt, he's gonna have probably $3,500 left over.
01:48:23.000And then if the prices go up, he's gonna be like, I want to kill myself because like I could have I could have actually like paid my debt off had 60 or 70,000 in profit, and that's the no risk, no story.
01:48:32.000So like we can't we can't tell you 100% it's gonna go up right now.
01:48:35.000Because like if we would the market does what the market does, but I would take the risk, you're already there already, but like you'd be able to like with the left, even let's just say it started going down, you'd be you'd have enough profit.
01:48:44.000Worst case, you're like, all right, I got 20k left over to selling the Ethereum and ABX after it went down, and I'll be able to pay off that other 10k.
01:48:50.000Yeah, we and we give and we give guys the buffet of options.
01:48:53.000Hey, here's if you do this, here's if you do that.
01:48:55.000Here's the options, here's what you could do.
01:48:57.000You decide because you're an adult, right?
01:48:59.000Make more money and pay that shit off, bro.
01:49:04.000Right, is you just simply don't earn enough.
01:49:06.000Um, you're never gonna save yourself to being like rich or paying off your debt.
01:49:10.000You're gonna you're just gonna have to work more hours, right?
01:49:12.000Less time chasing after ass or watching sports or cracking a beer open with your friends, like you're gonna have to grind and like really lock in.
01:49:19.000And I mean like you know, sacrifice a social life for a while sometimes to pay that debt off.
01:49:28.000So um you're like right now in that go between area where like this this is obvious obviously manageable now, but if you let it keep going, it's gonna get 10 times worse, man.
01:49:37.000So it's a t it's a 10, you have a chance to lose 10,000 bucks to possibly gain 60 to 70 grand.
01:49:42.000Yeah, and the risk reward is definitely in favor of this market.
01:50:32.000Um and it's it's hard to do if you don't have like a personal brand, or like either A, you're a big influencer yourself and you're able to sell it, or B, you have big influencers that are gonna promote it for you.
01:50:41.000That's why they're money to push the marketing because that's a lot of money going through.
01:50:48.000So I mean, if you got the dough and you got the capital and you want to try it, fine.
01:50:51.000But it's pretty hard to do, bro, to do uh supplement uh again in the summit industry when you don't have a platform because you're gonna have to rely on other people that do have a platform, them niggas are gonna charge you.
01:51:13.000I I I I know I um if you search Brandon Carter Summon Industry, I think we talked about about it before with him in one of our earlier interviews.
01:51:57.000If they show up to every call, actually do what we say, don't go all in on one coin, like actually listen to the best practices, absolutely.
01:53:18.000So it's gonna be maybe between quarter one, quarter two of twenty-six when those happen, just because you have to file an S1 and an S3 basically to get the ETF approved.
01:53:26.000So we're the the these companies that that uh did these for like uh XRP and Dogecoin and Solana did them in basically 24.
01:53:34.000Yeah, in order to barely have them come out and I know in 25.
01:53:37.000So they're I think they're gonna have them come out and they're not they're not being expedited, but like yeah, Pepe and Shiba are not having until 26.
01:54:49.000So game five stuff, you guys, make like you can have some definitely, but it is the highest, it's pretty much the highest risk next to buying like vaporware NFTs.
01:54:57.000Yeah, I was gonna say, like, yeah, it's kind of killed it's died off a uh quite a lot compared to uh similar to NFTs.
01:55:14.000If you go back to the earlier part of the episode, we were putting up the schedule.
01:55:17.000We have a few different webinars uh where we talk about the difference between uh normal average every day, Joe, uh, and Wall Street money and how those flows kind of go uh around in crypto.