Gonzalo Lira, a.k.a. Coach Red Pill, is a writer, podcaster, and podcaster. In this episode, he talks about the war in Ukraine, how he got into the game, and how he ended up in the middle of it all. He also talks about what it's like to be a Russian propagandist, and why he doesn't have a dog. He's a legend in the house, and we're lucky enough to have him on the Freshman Podcast! Subscribe to Freshman PODCASTS on Apple Podcasts or wherever else you get your podcasts. Subscribe, Like, and Share to stay up to date on all things Freshman. Freshman is a production of Native Creative Podcasts. Produced by Riley Bray. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and leave us a rating and review! We'll be looking to bring you more Freshman podcasts in the future. Thank you so much for all the support, stay tuned for more episodes, stay safe, and spread the word! Cheers, Freshman Misfits! -Jon Sorrentino and the Freshmen Podcast Crew. Jon & Rory Jon - Rory McElroy Timestamps: 1:00:00 - What's up? 2: 3:30 - What do you think of this episode? 4: How do you feel about it? 5:15 - What would you like to know more? 6:40 - Is this episode better than the best? 7:00 8:10 - What s your favorite part? 9:10 11:15 12:40 13:30 15:30 | What's the best part about it's a good one? 16:00 | What are you looking forward to the future? 17: What's your biggest takeaway from this episode so far? 18:40 | Is it better? 19:10 | What s a good thing? 21:00 / 16: What s the worst thing you're going to be the most important thing you re going to do for you? 22:00 // 15:00 + 17:00 & 17:20 21 & 15:50 23:00 Is it a good question?
00:00:02.000We got a special episode with Gonzalo Lear.
00:00:04.000We're going to be discussing a bunch of things, whether it's, you know, RP Awareness, Girls, the War, Ukraine, everything that y'all want to know, man.
00:01:13.000We're live on every platform right now.
00:01:14.000This interview might get a little saucy where we might have to go to Rumble because, as you guys know, YouTube is not necessarily as friendly as Rumble.
00:02:21.000I actually never do videos about picking up girls.
00:02:23.000I do about how to handle women, right?
00:02:25.000And also handle other stuff, you know, how to invest, how to trade, how to, you know, how to tip somebody, you know, why you should never do a personal loan, shit like that.
00:02:34.000I mean, useful stuff for a young man because I figure, you know, I'm an older father and my kid, when he's old enough to need good advice, I might be like a doddering old fool like Joe Biden or dead, right?
00:02:47.000That's why I did my channel and the thing took off and a lot of people really enjoyed the videos and so for a few years I was doing Coach Red Pill content and I was winding it down in 2021.
00:02:57.000I was just getting tired of it and then I pretty much wound the whole thing down but then in 2022 Here I am in Ukraine in the middle of the war.
00:03:08.000I'm in Kharkov, Ukraine, which is the easternmost major city in Ukraine.
00:03:13.000I'm about 25 miles from the border with Russia.
00:03:16.000I was literally in Kiev when the war started.
00:03:27.000I was staying at this very nice hotel.
00:03:31.000And I started doing like these impromptu videos about what I was seeing because I was right in the middle of downtown Kiev on Krishatik Avenue.
00:03:40.000And so I do these videos about what I was seeing and what I thought and all the rest of it.
00:04:45.000And yeah, we came to an agreement with the Sbu that they would leave me alone and I wouldn't be on Telegram because Telegram is like the big social media platform that everybody in Ukraine is following.
00:05:53.000And that's the extent of my law-breaking career, my criminal mastermind kind of career shit.
00:06:00.000And so, yeah, I was like, what the fuck is going to happen now, man?
00:06:03.000So, well, I was incommunicado for about a week.
00:06:07.000And I was interrogated a couple times.
00:06:10.000It's not like they put it in the movies.
00:06:12.000They didn't tear off my fingernails or anything like that.
00:06:16.000Scary, sure, but it was also really, really boring.
00:06:19.000Because that's something else they don't tell you, that when you're arrested, A lot of times you're just sitting somewhere for hours and you have no idea what the fuck is going to go on.
00:06:28.000You have no internet, no phone, no nothing and not even a book to read or something or a magazine.
00:06:51.000But anyway, after that whole episode, I've been doing video content describing the different geopolitical ramifications of the different things that have been going on.
00:07:03.000And so, of course, you know, before this conflict, I kind of like knew what was going on in the Donbass, but not the details.
00:07:10.000But of course, out of necessity, I've become like an expert at it.
00:07:15.000Just because, you know, you hear so much information and you're gathering so much data points to figure out what's going on and what's going to happen into the future.
00:07:23.000And so, yeah, that's basically been my thing now.
00:07:27.000So you guys want to know about the Ukraine conflict?
00:08:47.000Like, you basically go through life If you make mistakes or you do things well, you tell people, this is what I did right, this is what I didn't do right, and you're very forthcoming about your mistakes.
00:08:55.000And you can tell that the videos that you make are for your son because they're very candid.
00:09:00.000And I always respected and admired that about your content, that it was like OG advice that's realistic to help you become a better man in all different fields.
00:09:07.000I remember finding your video because you had one titled, Don't Date Single Moms.
00:09:13.000And your breakdown was so flawless, bro.
00:09:34.000And one other thing too, Gonzalo, you mentioned that you used to work in the renewable energy, and we're going to get right into Ukraine after this, but you did a fantastic video on your Patreon where you talked about how renewable energy is a scam and how people like Greta Thunberg,
00:09:49.000quite frankly, are very stupid and don't know what they're talking about.
00:09:53.000Can you give us a quick, because I think that video was so important and it was really well done, because you actually come from that background and you understand Why is renewable energy a scam?
00:10:03.000Just summarize it real quick and we'll get into that.
00:10:26.000I'm a nerdy SOB, so of course I gotta work with what I got and if I get into some cool business deal, maybe something will come my way, right?
00:10:36.000So anyway, I got into it with all these illusions and they were quickly dispelled.
00:11:03.000They create all kinds of environmental messes at the mining site.
00:11:09.000Let alone the actual panels, because you have to put these panels on the countryside, in land that could be used for farming, for instance.
00:11:18.000And what happens is that if any one of these stupid panels break, and they all break eventually, what happens is that out of them comes all kinds of minerals, cobalt, all kinds of very dangerous substances spill out.
00:11:46.000The blades themselves are made of these polymers that are not biodegradable.
00:11:52.000So all they can do is just bury them forever and they'll never decay.
00:11:57.000And on top of that, of course, When it's coldest, when you need electricity, the solar panels don't work because it's usually going to be cloudy or overcast or just not enough sunlight.
00:12:13.000When it's coldest, when you need the most electricity, there isn't going to be that much wind.
00:12:20.000And then you start getting into the people involved in this.
00:12:23.000And they're all a bunch of fucking scamsters.
00:12:25.000And I can tell you for a fact that a lot of times, you know, these NGOs, like environmental groups of various sorts, non-governmental organizations, they will outright tell you that if you don't pay them off, they will cause all kinds of havoc for you and make sure that you don't get the permit necessary to install your solar panel or windmill or whatever the hell.
00:12:46.000And so there's a lot of bribery and corruption going on.
00:14:32.000And, you know, they've talked about how, you know, if you have a pet, like, you know, you're releasing way more stuff into the environment from the production of dog and cat food than, you know, vehicles.
00:15:50.000I got both of his YouTube channels, Gonzalo Lira, again, and I got the Roundtable where he does conversations.
00:15:56.000He has, you know, really great discussions with other people that are very well-versed in geopolitics.
00:16:00.000So if you want to know what's really going on in the world and you don't want stupid, brainwashed Western media, go ahead and check him out over there on those two YouTube channels.
00:17:56.000There's obviously a very long-standing history between Russia and Ukraine.
00:18:01.000You did a fantastic primer video on this on your Gonzalo Lyra channel again, which I actually watched, which perfectly describes the relationship between Russia and Ukraine.
00:18:12.000But can you summarize for the people how we got here and the primer between Russia and Ukraine and what led to this conflict?
00:18:21.000Look, you've got to keep in mind that when the collapse of the Soviet Union happened in 1990, right, Ukraine became an independent nation.
00:18:28.000And Ukraine, there's a big population of ethnic Russians in Ukraine, roughly half the population, and they are concentrated in the East and the South.
00:18:39.000I'm in the city of Kharkov, and this is a traditionally Russian city.
00:18:42.000In fact, it was part of the Russian Empire.
00:18:44.000And Crimea, the peninsula that's in the Black Sea, that has historically always been Russian, okay, since 1776, when it was captured by Catherine the Great.
00:18:55.000And so what has happened is that this conflict was stirred up by the West because what they really want is that they wanted to have Crimea for themselves, for NATO. They wanted to put a NATO base on Crimea.
00:19:07.000It currently has at Sevastopol, the city of Sevastopol, on Crimea.
00:19:13.000Can you tell the people real quick what NATO is?
00:19:17.000NATO is the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
00:19:21.000It is the military alliance that was formed after the end of the Second World War to confront Soviet Union expansionism into Europe.
00:19:29.000And what happened was that the United States didn't want the countries of Europe to start swinging towards the communists, towards the Soviet Union.
00:19:41.000And so they created this military alliance that was originally France, West Germany at the time, the United Kingdom, the United States, Spain, Portugal, a few other countries, Italy.
00:19:52.000And what happened was that this military alliance, once the Soviet Union ended, it didn't really have a reason for being.
00:19:58.000And it just kept on adding new members.
00:20:01.000And what happened was that eventually NATO wanted to expand into Ukraine, and the Russians didn't want that by any stretch of the imagination.
00:20:09.000Imagine if the Chinese had a military alliance with countries like Panama, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, and finally they said, oh, we want Mexico to join our military alliance.
00:20:23.000And of course, unspoken would be that Chinese nuclear missiles would be in Huachaca, would be in Tijuana, aimed at the United States.
00:20:33.000How would people in the United States go for that?
00:20:43.000It was basically American expansionism insofar as NATO, using NATO as the excuse To come closer to Russia and have nuclear missiles on Russia's border and something that they were not going to allow.
00:20:57.000And the United States specifically provoked the Russians by means fair and foul to eventually the Russians said, fuck it, we're just going to have to invade and take it over and create some sort of buffer zone.
00:21:08.000Because over the last eight years, ever since the coup d'etat in 2014, The Kiev regime has been virulently anti-Russian.
00:21:17.000They've outlawed the Russian language.
00:21:20.000They've changed the books, changed the history, and really persecuted Russian speakers and ethnic Russians.
00:21:27.000I mean, it was really like ethnic cleansing.
00:21:29.000And you have to understand, we're talking about half the population of the country of Ukraine.
00:21:34.000And so, during the eight years from 2014 to 2022, something like 16,000 ethnic Russians were killed in the Donbas region because of constant shelling, artillery fire,
00:21:50.000by the Kiev regime against the area of the Donbas.
00:21:53.000You hear about the Donbas a lot, and it's basically the areas of Lugansk and Donetsk, okay?
00:21:58.000Sometimes it gets a little confusing because there's the city of Lugansk, the city of Donetsk, and also the region of Lugansk and Donetsk, and those two regions and a little other adjacent land is called the Donbass, for historical reasons that are important in this conversation.
00:22:14.000The Russians in Russia were sick and tired of this.
00:22:18.000They were sick and tired of the Donbass being relentlessly shelled and there was a peace plan called the Minsk agreements, Minsk II agreements to be precise, that were signed in 2015 and they were approved by the United Nations and it was a plan to have long-term peace in the region and end The shelling and the disputes going on there.
00:22:41.000And what happened was that it's emerged now that the Western leaders who signed that agreement are now saying that, oh, we didn't really mean the agreement.
00:22:49.000We had no intention of implementing the agreement.
00:22:53.000We were just doing it to buy time to arm the Ukraine Armed Forces with as much weapons as possible, get as many soldiers as possible to fight the Russians.
00:23:03.000So, you know, and also another data point that has emerged since our last conversation.
00:23:09.000It's become indisputably true that what happened was that in the run-up to the conflict, which started on February 24th, Well, the Kiev regime, the Zelensky regime, was amassing a very large army right across from the Donbass,
00:23:27.000and they were going to invade the Donbass, ethnically cleanse it, and potentially even attack Russia itself.
00:23:34.000They were getting ready to do this operation in March.
00:23:38.000Basically, the Russians beat them to the punch.
00:24:13.000I guess if I can crudely summarize it for the people, and please correct me if I'm wrong, Eastern Ukraine typically is dominated by ethnic Russians versus Western Ukraine is dominated by Ukrainians.
00:24:23.000And when you say the Kiev region, you're speaking about the Western Ukrainians who want to basically get more of a...
00:24:53.000And that led to very heavy sanctions between Russia and the United States, which ended up hurting Russia significantly from an economic standpoint.
00:25:02.000Yeah, that's where you were talking about Crimea.
00:25:04.000Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off with the whole NATO thing, but I kind of want the audience to understand what NATO is because that's an integral part of this conversation.
00:25:11.000Yeah, because this war isn't between Russia and Ukraine.
00:25:15.000This war is between Russia and NATO. NATO is pushing the Ukrainians to fight against the Russians.
00:25:21.000Because the fact is, right around the time we had our conversation, see, in early April, The Russians and the Ukrainians had come to an agreement, a ceasefire agreement, to end the hostilities.
00:25:33.000And it was NATO that pressured the Zelensky regime not to sign that agreement and to keep on fighting.
00:25:39.000And it guaranteed Western support for the Kiev regime to just keep on fighting.
00:25:44.000And Boris Johnson, in fact, flew to Kiev right around the time we did our podcast that time, in early April, I think it was.
00:25:51.000Right around that time he flew in and...
00:25:53.000Specifically told Zelensky to keep on fighting and that the West would take away its support if Zelensky signed any ceasefire agreement.
00:29:57.000And it's proven incredibly effective if you look at the loss numbers.
00:30:00.000And by the way, those loss numbers, those figures, I mentioned Douglas McGregor, but there's been another big revelation that appeared in the Turkish newspaper That had specific numbers.
00:30:12.000Let me find that fucking thing because I had around here and I can't seem to find it.
00:30:17.000The important point to understand is that, see, the figures are pretty accurate because this Turkish newspaper said that they had gotten a leaked Mossad report.
00:30:29.000I don't know if that's true or not because I think it might have been from the Turkish army and the Turkish army said this claim that it was Mossad, you know, who's going to check, right?
00:30:38.000But basically, the numbers from various sources seem to be accurate, insofar as the Ukraine losses of 157,000, insofar as the Russian losses of about 19,000.
00:30:49.000Well, that figure of 19,000 came from this report that was leaked to this Turkish newspaper.
00:30:56.000I'll give you the link to it in just a sec.
00:30:59.000But that same number was confirmed independently by the BBC, of all things, because the BBC, what they've been doing over the last year, Is that they've been scouring Russian social media to find notices of deaths, memorial services,
00:31:16.000And they found that, you know, the hard number that they could reach was 12,000 Russian dead.
00:31:22.000And they estimated that it could be up to as high as 20,000, but not more than 20,000.
00:31:27.000So you see the BBC is saying, you know, between 12 and 20,000 dead, Russian dead.
00:31:32.000And this leaked report says 18,850 dead as of the end of January.
00:31:38.000So you see how those two numbers are pretty much aligning.
00:31:41.000So the notion that it's, you know, the Kiev regime has lost 157,000 compared to roughly 19,000, 20,000 on the Russian side, that seems to be accurate.
00:32:11.000It's physically impossible because you've got to understand the size of the countries we're talking about here.
00:32:16.000We were talking about Crimea and you look at that map and it looks like a little thing.
00:32:20.000That peninsula is the size of Massachusetts.
00:32:23.000Anybody who's ever been to Massachusetts can tell you it's a big state.
00:32:29.000And insofar as Ukraine itself, it's roughly the size of Texas, okay?
00:32:35.000And the Russians have complete dominance over the entire country with their missiles.
00:32:40.000They have these guided missiles that are, some of them are hypersonic, that goes like, you know, between 7 and 12 times the speed of sound.
00:32:47.000And because they go so fast, air defense systems don't even see them coming before they hit.
00:32:53.000And so the Russians can hit all of Ukraine with these hypersonic missiles.
00:32:57.000And the distances that Western gear and say, excuse me, the Americans and NATO would put troops into Ukraine and Western Ukraine, they'd have to travel the whole country to get to the Russians.
00:33:13.000And in that, you know, that travel, they would be hit by the Russians multiple times.
00:34:09.000And the fact is, when you start looking at the biographies of a lot of the principal players, people like Secretary of State Tony Blinken, under Secretary Give us one sec,
00:35:11.000You were talking about the Crimea for the people so they can kind of get an idea of why it's, I guess, important for Russia to have that controlled.
00:35:56.000I'll tell you what's going on right now in this particular drama.
00:36:00.000The Russians have assembled an army that's credibly estimated that about 700,000 men.
00:36:06.000They've got like 150,000 in Belarus, right on the northern border of Ukraine, right just to the west of Kiev.
00:36:12.000Then they've got another 150,000 right across the border from me, as a matter of fact.
00:36:18.000In the region of Belgorod, which is, like I said, I'm in Kharkov, which is 25 miles from the border.
00:36:24.000And so right across the border, they've got like this army of 150 odd thousand men and another 150 odd thousand or more in the Donbass region in the south of Ukraine and Crimea.
00:36:36.000And they're getting ready for a big offensive.
00:37:15.000Whenever they say That they know what the Russians are planning, that they have inside information, and that they know that Putin and his generals are arguing or some bullshit like that.
00:37:28.000Because the Russians are practicing unbelievably good upset.
00:37:32.000Nobody has any fucking idea what they're up to.
00:37:35.000And anybody who says that they know what they're up to is just lying.
00:37:39.000And anybody who says that, oh, I have, like, insider information that, you know, Putin and his generals are arguing and that the whole Kremlin is about to collapse, it's a lie.
00:37:51.000Because they are fucking tight-lipped.
00:37:53.000And it's remarkable in this day and age where, you know, People leak all the time, people say shit all the time, and social media and all that.
00:38:03.000It's remarkable how tight they've been insofar as their information.
00:38:07.000And so that's why everybody's really scared, because nobody knows what the Russians are up to, but they see, because of satellites and such, that the Russians have this huge army surrounding Ukraine.
00:38:20.000And you don't assemble a force that big just for shits and giggles.
00:38:23.000You're gonna do something with it, okay?
00:38:25.000I mean, you're clearly going to do something big.
00:38:29.000Now, what that is, nobody knows until it happens.
00:39:15.000I mean, there are a lot of numbers, but at the end of the day, that doesn't really matter what happens on any particular day.
00:39:20.000These losses are catastrophic because, of course, I'm only talking about the killed in action.
00:39:24.000I'm not including the people who have been wounded, incapacitated.
00:39:27.000This is KIA. Wounded in action, that's WIA, right?
00:39:32.000And you add up those guys, which is roughly about 240,000, we're talking altogether that the Zelensky regime has lost 400,000 men, either killed or wounded and incapacitated.
00:39:45.000There's also another contingent of like, I think it was like 17,000 POWs.
00:39:50.000And so, you know, they have lost the army.
00:39:54.000The army that they started with was 240,000 men.
00:39:59.000Okay, now we're at the stage of using, like, territorial defense forces, which are basically like the National Guard, territorial defense forces.
00:40:09.000And most of those guys are middle-aged guys, not in good shape.
00:40:41.000It's true, but I'm really pissed off because the checks that I'm supposed to get from Uncle Vladimir, you know, I'm not getting them, you know.
00:40:49.000I call up the Kremlin all the time, you know, and they give me the runaround.
00:40:52.000They tell me to go to talk to this guy, to that guy, and I try to talk to the big guy, you know, and I say, where's my mula, you know, and he's like, fuck you, man.
00:42:07.000And it's been snuffed out because of the Americans.
00:42:10.000Because the people running things in the United States, like I mentioned before, Anthony Blinken, Victoria Nuland, Wendy Sherman, Joe Biden, several of them have ancient ancestral hatreds towards Russia.
00:42:41.000Like in Ukraine, there's been a lot of biomedical laboratories here that the Russians have uncovered that were doing all kinds of creepy ass shit, genetic research, Targeted diseases targeting the Slobs specifically, ethnic Russians specifically, all kinds of nasty shit like that,
00:43:20.000You lift it up and all kinds of Wrigley shit starts moving around.
00:43:24.000And so, look, Biden has an invested interest in this, but also because of the monetary situation.
00:43:33.000But when I talk about Victoria Nuland, Anthony Blinken, Wendy Sherman, you know, these people, because of their ethno-religious background, they hate Russia and they want to see it destroyed.
00:43:45.000Because what they really want is not only just regime change in Russia, they want to break up Russia into smaller countries so that they can exploit them financially.
00:43:54.000Because Russia is an extremely rich country.
00:43:56.000It's rich in natural resources, rich in human resources.
00:44:01.000And they want to basically break up Russia so that they can enslave these smaller countries like they enslaved Ukraine.
00:44:10.000Because you've got to understand, Ukraine is a rich country.
00:44:14.000It has a lot of agricultural resources, energy resources, mineral resources, you know, a huge amount of the neon gas necessary for chip manufacturing, for instance.
00:44:25.000It comes from Ukraine and also from Russia.
00:44:27.000But the point is, see, this was a rich country.
00:44:31.000But it's incredibly poor because of the corruption of a lot of these foreigners, these Westerners, these Americans, who have used different subterfuges to exploit Ukraine and keep it poor.
00:44:45.000Before the conflict, Ukraine was the second poorest country in Europe, and it shouldn't have been, because it has everything to be extremely successful.
00:44:54.000But it was poor because of the corruption.
00:44:59.000Because the way it happened was that, see, there are oligarchs here in Russia, in Ukraine, excuse me.
00:45:06.000And what happened was that the Westerners would prop up these oligarchs.
00:45:10.000And these oligarchs were just basically bloodsuckers, vampires.
00:45:14.000Then they would extract money, resources, capital from the country and send it to the West and share it with some of their masters in Washington and New York and Brussels.
00:45:27.000And I think that part of the reason that the Americans are so pissed off over the Russian invasion is because their little kitty, their little piggy bank, Is being fucked with.
00:45:38.000And so, you know, a lot of it has to do with money.
00:45:41.000And like I said, this ancient ancestral hatred for Russia, because like Victoria Nuland's grandfather, for instance, he fled Russia in 1907 after a pogrom, an anti-Jewish pogrom in Russia.
00:45:54.000And he instilled an everlasting hatred for Russia in his son and then later on his granddaughter.
00:46:00.000And Victoria Nuland is the one calling the shots in the State Department insofar as the Ukraine conflict.
00:46:08.000Now, for the people out there that aren't familiar with how, I guess, the Bidens are connected to Ukraine from a financial standpoint, can you kind of give a quick overview?
00:46:20.000Because I don't think people understand, because people keep wondering, well, why do we keep giving so much money to Zelensky to fight this war?
00:46:26.000You know, why is Biden so big on giving him billions and trillions of dollars to fight Russia?
00:48:27.000Igor Kolomoisky had a television station, and by way of this television station, I mean, Kolomoisky himself ran for president back in the day, and he failed miserably because he's not an attractive candidate.
00:48:39.000And so what he decided to do was have his own puppet.
00:48:41.000And so he created the show by way of his TV station called Servant of the People, which was supposed to be sort of like an accidental president.
00:48:49.000And this accidental president was played by...
00:48:52.000Zelensky, Vladimir Zelensky was the actor.
00:48:56.000He was just an actor, a very successful actor in Ukraine.
00:48:58.000And he was the lead of this show, Servant of the People, that was a fictional president of Ukraine who became president by accident, and he tried to turn Ukraine more to the West, to Europe, you know,
00:50:21.000You know, he got paid off by different people.
00:50:23.000And by the way, all the money that the Biden administration is sending to Ukraine, that's not quite accurate because people talk about all the money.
00:50:31.000Because the money is not actually going to Ukraine, or not all of it, not a hundred and some odd billion dollars.
00:50:37.000No, what's going on is that Biden is saying this money is going to be dedicated to Ukraine, but they pay the military industrial complex in the United States for the weapons.
00:51:26.000A kleptocracy is a government ruled by thieves.
00:51:30.000And the whole point of the United States and all these monies that are being sent here and there, it's just to make money for different interests.
00:51:39.000And fuck the people, fuck the best interests of the country.
00:52:21.000Before Andrew, real fast, because I know that one is going to be another topic in itself because we all know the injustice that's going on right now with that case.
00:52:29.000Real fast, because I want to get your take on it as well, Gonzalo, but I know that one's going to be...
00:52:36.000Real quick, so you said since we last spoke, you mentioned earlier that the SBU grabbed you up for, you know, because a lot of people say, oh, well, you know, he's a Russian propagandist, etc.
00:52:45.000And really, you're an American citizen.
00:52:47.000You don't have much stake in this fight.
00:52:49.000There's no real reason to sit there and align yourself with Russia and put yourself in a bunch of danger for no reason, right?
00:52:55.000Now, for the audience, they might not know what this agency is.
00:52:58.000What is SBU? The SBU is like a combination of the FBI and the CIA. It's the State Security Service of Ukraine.
00:53:06.000It was formerly the KGB, back when it was the Soviet Union, and they renamed it as the SBU. The SBU, the initials are in Ukrainian.
00:53:14.000That stands for State Security Services.
00:53:16.000And there are different factions within it, different elements within it.
00:53:21.000I mean, imagine like the FBI and the CIA combined, okay?
00:53:24.000There'd be parts of this big organization that would do clandestine stuff and really nasty shit and others that are just law enforcement and just normal shit, right?
00:53:36.000And so you have to understand that the SBU is more complicated.
00:53:39.000It's not just like they're all evil, okay?
00:53:41.000And I'll admit that the people that I interacted with at the SBU were very reasonable, very professional and forthright.
00:53:48.000And so, yeah, in my own personal experience with them, I found them very professional.
00:53:53.000And yeah, it was not pleasant, but it wasn't, you know, yeah.
00:54:00.000Yeah, when you went missing, man, I was like freaking out.
00:54:03.000I was like, man, I hope nothing happens to him because, you know, because obviously you're one of the people that I rely on to kind of stay in touch with what's going on.
00:54:11.000And the thing I like as well, which you guys should all go check out his Roundtable channel on YouTube, is he brings other people in to have a vast knowledge of geopolitics and they have discussions and help.
00:54:20.000I mean, you even bring people on that disagree with you.
00:54:23.000Yeah, but what happens with those guys is that they start denying reality.
00:55:45.000So I know that you guys are honest brokers, so I'd be happy to patiently explain in as much detail as you want anything, because I know that you're not trying to bullshit anybody.
00:55:56.000But when I come across a couple of guys like these fuckers, They know the truth and they want to keep on peddling lies.
00:56:18.000Like, with these people that are out here saying that Ukraine is winning and stuff, which, you know, is nonsensical when you really think about it, because let's say you hate Russia, right?
00:56:25.000Let's go ahead and take another angle here where you don't like Putin, you think he's evil, you hate Russia, etc., and you think that Russia had no grounds to invade Ukraine.
00:56:34.000Then if Ukraine was truly winning this war, why is Zelensky running around all over Western Europe and the United States asking for billions upon billions of dollars in aid if he was winning the war?
00:56:46.000Just looking at it from a deductive problem-solving standpoint, if you really think that Ukraine is winning, why is it?
00:56:52.000And I saw a couple people in the other chat saying, oh, he's lying, Ukraine is winning this war, blah, blah, blah.
00:56:58.000In my head, I'm like, are you serious?
01:00:02.000And so the people in the mainstream media They, in particular, are the people I hate the most because they know that they are lying, and they are lying for their financial benefit.
01:00:16.000Now, and I think that's an important distinction that, you know, people understand that there's a strong incentive to tell people that Ukraine is winning because we are dumping quite a bit of money into this conflict, right?
01:00:28.000And there's obviously an incentive for the United States to be involved in this proxy war because Russia is an enemy to not just the United States but NATO. So everyone is invested in having Ukraine fight this war on their behalf.
01:00:41.000So if we were to say, oh, yeah, Russia only lost 20k.
01:00:47.000It'll probably cause outrage all across the Western world.
01:00:50.000So for them, they have to kind of, you know, prop up this lie that no, Russia doesn't know what they're doing.
01:00:55.000They're incompetent in the battlefield, etc., which I'm sure Russia's made some mistakes as well.
01:00:59.000But I think at this point, it's very obvious that Russia's winning.
01:01:04.000And for them to say otherwise, the public would go mad.
01:01:08.000Yeah, but they're slowly starting to lay the groundwork because it's becoming almost impossible to hide the losses.
01:01:15.000And so they're slowly, you're starting to see it in the mainstream media here and there in the Telegram, a newspaper in the UK, in CNN, in different outlets, the New York Times, they're starting to lay the groundwork very gently that things aren't going their way insofar as the Ukraine situation is concerned.
01:01:53.000Because you see, the Ukrainians, over the eight years between 2014 and 2022, they set up various lines of defense, trenches, fortifications, and so forth, along strings of villages in this area, right across from the Donbass,
01:02:10.000from behind which they were shelling the Donbass, as I explained before, killing 16,000 people over the eight years that they've been doing this, right?
01:03:50.000But anyway, like I was telling you, Bakhmud in and of itself is not important, but it has become important because the Zelensky regime has poured so many troops into it to defend it.
01:04:00.000And so the Russians have countered by attacking it more and more fiercely to break through this line at Bakhmud.
01:04:07.000And so it's become a self-reinforcing cycle because as the Zelensky regime has lost forces, they put in more forces.
01:04:15.000They keep on doubling down on their bets, right?
01:04:18.000As opposed to withdrawing to their third line.
01:04:21.000Their third line is the Kramatorsk line, it's called.
01:04:25.000And so the Kiev regime, the Zelensky regime, is all hell bent for leather on holding on to Bakhmut and they keep on pouring in troops to do exactly that, you know, hold on to this line.
01:04:37.000And this plays right into the hands of the Russians because the Russians, they don't have to go looking for the Ukraine army.
01:04:49.000Now, think of the U.S. Civil War, right?
01:04:52.000General Grant, Ulysses S. Grant, when he was named Commander of the Armed Forces, he realized that his goal was to...
01:05:02.000Go looking for the Confederate Army and defeat it.
01:05:05.000And so that's why the war, after he took command, started becoming basically this hunt throughout the South for the Confederate Army.
01:05:21.000Grant recognized that the way to win the war, the Civil War, was to destroy the Confederate Army.
01:05:30.000That's why there was all this movement of troops running around all of the south of the United States during the Civil War as they were hunting for the Confederate troops.
01:05:42.000But here, what's happened is that They created static lines.
01:05:46.000The Ukraine forces created static lines of defense.
01:05:49.000And to hold these static lines of defense, they have to keep on shoveling soldiers to man these defensive lines so as not to have a breakthrough.
01:05:59.000And so it's played into the Russians' hands that the Ukrainians bring their troops to Bakhmut and the Russians do what I said before, which is they use their artillery to just fucking annihilate everything.
01:06:32.000So at this point, right, it's a battle of attrition, which means time is on Russia's side versus not on Ukraine's side, which explains Zelensky's, you know, desperation to secure more and more funding and aid, right, to buy himself more time.
01:06:44.000When do you estimate this conflict will more than likely come to an end or Ukraine won't be able to prop up a fight anymore?
01:06:51.000And I remember you mentioned last show.
01:06:53.000It should be over quickly, but I think it's way longer than that now.
01:06:57.000Oh yeah, because what happened was that when we spoke in early April, I thought it was going to be quick, because the overwhelming Russian advantage was so obvious to anybody who has even just a little bit of knowledge of the situation, that I thought that they would negotiate a ceasefire.
01:07:12.000But for the reasons I explained, NATO and the United States, embodied by Boris Johnson, made it very clear to Zelensky that they would not support him anymore if he signed any kind of ceasefire with the Russians.
01:07:27.000Just when we were talking, had there not been that pressure from the West, had there not been that visit by Boris Johnson, the war would have probably wound down by June.
01:07:39.000And, of course, tens of thousands of soldiers' lives would have been saved.
01:07:44.000But the Zelensky regime did as he was told, and he went ahead with this attritional warfare, which, of course, played to the strengths of the Russians.
01:09:09.000And so at this time, Bakhmud is about to be operationally encircled.
01:09:13.000It's something estimated by something like 10,000 soldiers, Ukraine soldiers, are there in Bakhmud now at this time that they will be encircled.
01:10:15.000They abandoned it because they realized, you know, we have 20,000 soldiers in that area, and, you know, we can defend it, sure, and we can supply it, sure, but it'll be complicated, so let's just withdraw it so we can use those 20,000 troops elsewhere to more effect.
01:10:30.000And so withdrew behind the Dnieper River in Kherson, see?
01:10:34.000And these were declared to be great Zelensky regime victories.
01:10:37.000They weren't great Zelensky regime victories.
01:10:39.000It's just the Russians decided to withdraw, and the worst part, As the Zelensky regime went forward to hold on to this territory, they came under Russian artillery fire.
01:10:50.000And they got fucking blasted to Mars, man.
01:10:54.000Like in the Kharkov region, they lost something like 6,000 men killed.
01:11:00.000After the Russians had withdrawn, because the Kiev regime advanced with their forces into that area, and the Russians had presided the whole area.
01:11:11.000And then the same thing or something similar happened in Kursan.
01:11:14.000The Kiev regime cannot hold on to the city of Kursan because it's shelled relentlessly by the Russians morning, noon and night.
01:11:20.000And so it's sort of like a pirate victory.
01:11:23.000But in the West, they're so obsessed with capturing territory that they lose sight of what actually matters, which is holding on to your army.
01:11:33.000And they've frittered away the Ukrainian army.
01:11:36.000In order to capture territory that the territory in and of itself is meaningless.
01:11:59.000I mean, that's what the Russians are doing.
01:12:01.000They don't give a shit about the house.
01:12:03.000They just want to knock out the homeowner.
01:12:06.000And once that guy is knocked out, then they can do whatever they want with the house.
01:12:10.000And that's a fantastic analogy because I've noticed that this has kind of been the trend because, you know, the Western media pretty much says, hey, Russia is, you know, fumbling here, fumbling there.
01:13:11.000The Russians, if they wanted to totally annihilate Ukraine, I mean, just turn it into the Stone Ages, the whole country, they can do it right now, whenever they want to.
01:15:14.000Certainly microscopic compared to what happened in Iraq, for instance, or Libya with the bombings of the United States and NATO. So the Russians have been going out of their way not to hurt the civilians.
01:15:30.000So the first question is, is it taking so long because of Russia's strategy of encircling a location and then going in and waiting for them to kind of just surrender or get bombed when they come out?
01:15:40.000Is that a part of the reason why it's taking so long?
01:15:42.000And then the second question is, when do you estimate they'll be done?
01:16:06.000When do you estimate the conflict warrant?
01:16:08.000They captured roughly 20% of the country, and that's the bottom part of it, the south and the east of it.
01:16:14.000Now, you've got to understand, the initial Russian strategy in February was to have these lightning strikes with expeditionary forces to gain a lot of ground, to scare the Zelensky regime into negotiating.
01:16:31.000Now, this strategy didn't work in Kyiv and in the north, in Sumy and Zhuhyev, but it did work in the south because the administrators in the south of Ukraine that were Ukrainian, that were pro Zelensky, they fled.
01:16:45.000And the Russians have held on to all that territory.
01:16:48.000So the initial strategy that the Russians had of just going in fast with minimal forces, but going fast, going deep, And scare the locals into surrendering or fleeing, as the case may be.
01:17:03.000It worked in the South, but it didn't work in Kiev.
01:17:07.000And so you can say that it wasn't a mistake.
01:17:10.000It was actually a very sound strategy.
01:17:12.000It was very smart to use as fewest forces as possible to gain the political advantage.
01:17:19.000Because in the West, we think of war as like, okay, there's diplomacy, and then diplomacy ends, and you go to war, and you just destroy everything.
01:17:26.000But the Russians think of diplomacy, negotiation, and war as all on a spectrum.
01:17:45.000And during the summer, when they realized that this was going to be a prolonged conflict because the Zelensky regime had no intention of doing a ceasefire because of the NATO pressure that I mentioned before, that's when they decided, okay, fuck it.
01:17:58.000And that's when they decided to do the military call-up, the military reorganization, bring in a lot more troops, a lot more artillery, a lot more everything.
01:18:09.000And that's when that started over the summer.
01:18:11.000So this war has had a series of phases, if you will.
01:18:16.000They've all been based on the political landscape.
01:18:20.000If you think of it purely in military terms, like the Westerners would think, they'd say, oh, the Russians have failed because they didn't capture Ukraine in 72 hours.
01:18:29.000Yeah, because they didn't bomb the fuck out of it like the Americans would have.
01:19:18.000This is more like a civil war than a war of conquest.
01:19:24.000And the Russians don't have any interest in attacking any NATO country like Poland or the Baltics for a very simple reason.
01:19:32.000The Russian leadership class in particular It's very aware that one of the big reasons that the Soviet Union collapsed was because the Soviet Union was imperialist.
01:19:42.000It wanted to capture foreign people and control them.
01:19:46.000And the leadership class today in Russia is pro-Russian, pro-ethnic Russian, pro-cultural Russian.
01:19:54.000They're not interested in foreign people.
01:19:56.000And the Poles, for instance, they're fucking foreigners.
01:19:58.000They have a different language, different culture, different everything.
01:20:02.000I mean, in the United States, you might say, oh, they're white people.
01:20:36.000They're not interested in capturing foreign people.
01:20:39.000They have no interest in foreign people.
01:20:41.000They only care about ethnic Russians, and specifically in Ukraine, because like I said, most Russians have family in Ukraine, in the Donbas, in Crimea.
01:20:50.000I was talking to a guy the other day, okay, and he was telling me, yeah, I mean, a Russian guy, and he's in Moscow.
01:20:57.000And he's telling me, yeah, you know, like, I've got family in Crimea.
01:21:21.000Erase the legitimate reasons for this conflict.
01:21:25.000And the bottom line reason, and I have to emphasize this, it's not that the Ukraine people wanted this war or that the Russian people wanted this war.
01:21:34.000It's that Washington, the Americans, NATO, they want the war because they want to make money off of Russia.
01:21:43.000And they thought that they would win and it would be easy for them to do it.
01:22:18.000You can touch on a couple of things I want to discuss.
01:22:20.000And real quick, before I transition over to, because I want to talk about Putin, and I definitely want to talk about Europe and energy and how this is having a negative effect on them and how the sanctions have kind of backfired, because this is very important.
01:22:31.000But real quick, I'll summarize real fast for the people that are just joining.
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01:24:19.000And I'm just going to summarize real quick some of the things we've discussed for the people before we transition over to Europe, the sanctions, how it's backfired, etc.
01:24:26.000So Russia originally invaded Ukraine thinking that this is going to be something that they can quickly kind of, you know, get under control, come in, take the country over intact, going with a light army, going smooth.
01:24:38.000But they were hoping, right, and we had predicted before in our last podcast that they would have this thing done by the summertime.
01:24:44.000However, But NATO kind of intervened and said, no, Zelensky, you will continue this war with the Russians, which kind of prolonged this.
01:24:52.000So now what Russia had to do was kind of double down on their military strategy, reassess, okay, we need more rounds, we need more soldiers, etc.
01:25:04.000Zelensky is basically out of, you know, I think he was in England the other day, which we'll talk about that as well, or he was there yesterday.
01:25:21.000You predict that that will be done probably sometime soon because they're encircling it, waiting for them to either surrender or get blown up, trying to use the roadways or restock.
01:25:29.000And, I mean, did I miss anything there just before we transition over?
01:25:35.000And, like, finally, the important thing is that the Russians have 700,000 troops surrounding Ukraine.
01:25:41.000They have a big contingent in the north, in Belarus, just to the north of the Ukraine border.
01:25:47.000They have another big contingent just to the east, here in Kharkov region, on the Russian side of the border.
01:25:53.000And they have another big contingent in the south, in the territories that they currently occupy.
01:25:57.000So yeah, that's the big thing that's coming because those 700,000 men, as I said before, you don't put that force together just for shits and giggles.
01:26:06.000You're going to do something with them.
01:26:07.000And everybody is sort of like waiting and wondering what the fuck are the Russians going to do?
01:26:11.000Because like I said before, their operational security is They do not let anything leak out.
01:26:18.000Anybody who claims to know the inside information about Russia is lining their asses off.
01:26:25.000They are tight-lipped as God, I don't know what.
01:26:29.000So, real quick, let's look at the man himself, Vladimir Putin.
01:26:34.000Obviously, he's a very controversial figure.
01:26:36.000Some people absolutely despise him and say he's committing war crimes and needs to be tried.
01:26:41.000Some other people are saying he's doing what's best for Russia and his actions are justified.
01:26:46.000Can we talk a little bit about We talked about the history between Ukraine and Russia.
01:26:52.000Can we talk about the geopolitical implications as to why he decided to conduct this, in his words, special military operation and a little bit behind the man himself?
01:28:29.000And the oligarchs who didn't agree, they basically got booted out of the country.
01:28:34.000And the oligarchs who did agree, well, they kept their mouths shut and they kept on making their money.
01:28:39.000And what happened was that Putin implemented a series of measures that in and of themselves, none of them were particularly noteworthy, but they all were to grind down the oligarchs.
01:28:51.000And the proof of this is that the oligarchs who were in power back when Putin assumed control were like a dozen or so.
01:29:00.000And now they are many more oligarchs, like just basically very rich people, and they are completely different.
01:29:06.000He basically eliminated the oligarchs.
01:29:09.000And the oligarchs in Russia today don't have any power, any real power, none whatsoever.
01:29:44.000And the other is Putin on Putin, I believe is the name of it, by Oliver Stone.
01:29:49.000And Oliver Stone got a series of interviews over several years with Vladimir Putin.
01:29:54.000And what emerges is that Vladimir Putin is a guy who is a Russian nationalist.
01:30:00.000He cares about his people, the Russian people.
01:30:03.000He doesn't give a shit about the rest.
01:30:05.000I mean, he's all in favor of free trade if it benefits the Russian people, but he's not interested in conquering other peoples, other nationalities, and he's not interested in expanding Russian territory either.
01:30:19.000He just wants the welfare of the Russian people.
01:30:22.000And he's been very successful at this.
01:30:24.000But what happened was that in 2007, he gave a very, very famous speech in Munich.
01:30:29.000There was this summit in Munich of the Western leaders and included Russia.
01:30:35.000Putin, in that speech, and you should see a video of it, it's very thoughtful and very intelligent speech.
01:30:40.000He basically says that the future is multipolar.
01:30:43.000There cannot be one pole, one unipolar world, where the United States is the global hegemon.
01:30:49.000Because the other countries around the world, China, India, they are industrializing, they are growing, they're becoming great powers themselves.
01:30:57.000And so it's inevitable that there will be this multipolar world.
01:31:01.000And this, of course, made the Americans furious.
01:31:03.000If you watch the speech, at one point, John McCain, the senator, was in the audience listening to this speech, and you can see the daggers coming out of his eyes.
01:31:14.000I mean, he's just hating everything that Putin is saying, because he's basically saying that The American moment of being the global hegemon is winding down, and the Americans are just going to have to take it.
01:31:26.000And the Americans didn't want to take it.
01:33:12.000Just really wreck the Western economies and just fuck those people over.
01:33:16.000I mean, that's the kind of people we're talking about because everybody in Russia now, because of the sanctions that were implemented, because of the rampant Russophobia and just outright hatred of everything Russia...
01:33:30.000I mean, they've even gone so far as to outlaw Dostoevsky's books and Tchaikovsky and Prokofiev, and they've even sanctioned tennis players and shit, right?
01:33:41.000I mean, everybody in Russia despises the West at this point.
01:33:46.000Okay, so you gotta understand, Putin is the moderate here, okay?
01:33:50.000And all he wants is the well-being of his people.
01:33:52.000I'm not saying that the guy is squeaky clean like some angel.
01:33:55.000I mean, I'm sure that this guy has done all kinds of nasty shit.
01:34:09.000What are the top three reasons Putin had to invade Ukraine?
01:34:16.000I don't think enough people talk about this as to why he did what he did.
01:34:20.000Instead, they kind of demonize him for what he did versus his reasoning and rationale for doing so.
01:34:25.000Because like you said before, which is very true, Putin cares about the Russian people first.
01:34:30.000He doesn't give a shit about anybody else.
01:34:32.000He doesn't care about geopolitical relations.
01:34:36.000He's very careful about his diplomacy, and his diplomacy has been exceptional.
01:34:41.000But your question is exceptionally good.
01:34:43.000And so the top three reasons that Putin did this, that invaded Ukraine.
01:34:48.000Number one, he wanted to prevent NATO encroachment on Russia's borders.
01:34:53.000Like I said before, imagine if the Chinese had a military alliance and they put nuclear missiles in Mexico on the border with the United States.
01:34:59.000The Americans would freak out and they'd invade Mexico, right?
01:35:02.000To prevent that from happening, right?
01:35:31.000And having potentially nuclear weapons on Russia's border, that was never going to happen.
01:35:35.000Remember, the Cuban Missile Crisis happened because the Soviet Union was going to put nuclear missiles in Cuba, right on America's doorstep.
01:37:26.000And see, these color revolutions, they all have the same shape.
01:37:29.000What the United States does is that they have some country that has a government that is not totally friendly to the United States, not totally docile to the United States.
01:37:39.000And so they want to change the regime.
01:38:20.000Because when they talk about regime change, this is what we're talking about.
01:38:24.000Supporting the most extreme faction in a country so as to overthrow the legitimate government and install a pro-Western regime, a regime of extremists, you see?
01:38:37.000Because these extremists, since they're being funded by the West, the hope is, the expectation is that they're going to be loyal to the West after they take over.
01:38:46.000And so that's why in 2014, they started supporting the most, I mean, fascist.
01:38:54.000I mean, like, look, I am a hardcore right wing guy.
01:39:26.000They get this shit tattooed all over themselves.
01:39:28.000You know how the Russians process their prisoners of war?
01:39:30.000They make them strip their shirts off to check their tattoos.
01:39:35.000And all the guys who've got Nazi tattoos, they go into one truck.
01:39:40.000The other guys who don't have any tattoos, they go to a nice POW camp.
01:39:44.000But the ones with the tattoos, oh God knows what happens to them.
01:39:47.000Because the Russians, like I said, you know, I don't want to sound like I'm painting a rosy picture of the Russians because they're fucking nasty motherfuckers.
01:40:11.000Why would he be supported by neo-Nazis?
01:40:14.000Dude, you know, you have tactical alliances all the time.
01:40:19.000You know, lots of times, you know, you find yourself working alongside some guy that you find a complete dickhead asshole for whatever reason, but he's doing the same thing that you're trying to achieve, so yeah, you'll work with him.
01:40:31.000And these neo-Nazis have no problem working with some Jewish guy in order to advance their position.
01:40:36.000But, you know, once it's over, that's a different story.
01:40:40.000But, you know, for the time being, sure, you know, no problem.
01:41:43.000And so far, they played it pretty smart.
01:41:48.000You're not hearing about them because they're threading that needle very carefully.
01:41:53.000They're trying to be on both sides, not antagonize either side, and try to be conciliatory and let's all kumbaya and sing some songs around the campfire kind of thing.
01:42:04.000Because they can't afford to piss off the Russians and they can't afford to piss off the Americans.
01:42:09.000And so insofar as this conflict is concerned, they're null and void.
01:42:12.000They don't really matter in this conflict.
01:42:54.000The overview that you gave is right on the money.
01:42:57.000Because in 2014, when the Russians took over Crimea, because most of the population of Crimea is ethnic Russian and wanted to be part of the Russian Federation, well, the West imposed all kinds of sanctions.
01:43:09.000And the sanctions have been going on since before, since 2012 and the Magnitsky sanctions.
01:43:15.000But what happened was that in 2014, it really hurt the Russian economy.
01:43:20.000And so the Russians, they went ahead and created, they sanctioned proof their country.
01:44:04.000My bank has money and your bank receives money.
01:44:07.000And then later we'll get squared away.
01:44:09.000But the messaging system to transfer the monies, okay?
01:44:12.000Now you think that this isn't a big deal.
01:44:14.000It's a huge deal because of trade, okay?
01:44:17.000Because this is how people in different countries are able to trade with one another.
01:44:22.000And this global system is run by the Americans.
01:44:25.000This is one of the big reasons that the United States has such control over the rest of the world's economy, because this system, since it's controlled by the Americans, if the Americans decide to cut you off the system, you're all of a sudden cut off from any kind of trade,
01:44:44.000So you want to stay on the right side of the Americans and not get cut off from SWIFT, right?
01:44:50.000And so the Russians were not cut off from SWIFT in 2014, but they realized that this was in the cards, and so they created their own messaging system.
01:44:58.000They created their own credit card system, the MIR card.
01:45:03.000M-I-R, which was a counterbalance to Visa and MasterCard.
01:45:09.000Because, again, Visa and MasterCard are essential for consumers because people use Visa and MasterCard.
01:45:16.000And if a whole country's people are cut off from Visa and MasterCard, all of a sudden they can't make payments.
01:45:22.000Or they can, but it's much longer and more tedious and more complicated because then people have to actually go to their bank, get cash, and then go and pay for shit as opposed to just zip, zip, The Russians did this in parallel from 2014 to 2022.
01:45:42.000And so what happened was that when the sanctions were imposed, they went to 11.
01:47:07.000Russia has an enormous amount of gold.
01:47:09.000And they mine the shit because they've got the biggest gold mines in the world, practically, aside from South Africa.
01:47:14.000And so they're in good shape, economically.
01:47:17.000So the sanctions, at first, was a big shock.
01:47:20.000But then people started waking up, things aren't going so badly.
01:47:24.000And also, the Russians started exporting all their energy resources, their natural gas and their oil, to India, especially, and also China and Pakistan.
01:47:34.000So what happened was that, you know, the amount of oil that they are shipping now to India is, I think it's, last I heard it was something like 12 times more than they were exporting at the beginning of the conflict.
01:47:49.000And what has happened is that the Europeans have deprived themselves of these energy resources from the Russians, and the Russians have just simply turned around and sold their oil to other people.
01:48:00.000The Indians, the Chinese, and by the way, these are huge amounts of oil we're talking about, 1.2 million barrels of oil a day.
01:48:12.000It's not that it went from 1 barrel a day to 12.
01:48:16.000No, it went from, if I recall correctly, 87,000 barrels of oil per day to over 1.2 million today in less than a year.
01:48:55.000And what are the Europeans going to do?
01:48:57.000They need the fucking oil, so they're fucked, right?
01:49:00.000And the Russians are doing this deliberately, and they're not stupid.
01:49:03.000They know that the Indians are doing it.
01:49:05.000Because, in fact, it's not that the Russians know that they're doing it.
01:49:07.000They are encouraging it to fuck over the Europeans, okay?
01:49:11.000So, you know, I mean, in the end, this is blowing up in Europe's face especially, because you've got to understand that Europe's prosperity over the last 30, 40 years...
01:49:24.000And we're talking about Western Europe here, right?
01:49:26.000To be specific for the audience out there that are wondering, like, what do you mean with Europe?
01:49:30.000He's talking about Spain, Italy, you know, traditionally known as Western Europe, right?
01:49:39.000These countries, Poland, their prosperity, their ability to have a big welfare state where everybody gets money, even if they're unemployed and shit.
01:49:46.000Well, see, it depends on three factors.
01:49:49.000Number one, that the Europeans don't have to spend almost any money on their national defense because they're under the American security umbrella.
01:49:57.000Number two, cheap consumer goods from China.
01:50:02.000Cheap consumer goods and cheap industrial devices necessary for various industries that the Europeans no longer have to manufacture themselves at a higher cost.
01:50:13.000They can simply import them from China and use them in their own factories for higher value goods.
01:50:19.000And the third was cheap Russian energy.
01:50:24.000So you have this troika, American spending on defense that the Europeans don't have to do, which remember when Trump was saying that the NATO countries have to shoulder their fair share of the security burden?
01:50:42.000That's a fantastic point because I've always thought to myself, you know, how are these Western countries able to have damn near socialist type societies with free healthcare and all this other stuff?
01:50:51.000But I never thought and connected the dots that they don't spend on military like that because they're under the NATO alliance and the United States has the biggest military and they're willing to assist and help.
01:51:02.000So that frees up a lot of taxpayer dollars, right?
01:51:04.000Especially when they're taxing each other at 50%.
01:51:07.000Go ahead and do all this other dumb stuff.
01:51:12.000And so, this troika of American defense, cheap goods from China, and cheap energy from Russia, well, that's what held up their social welfare programs, their socialist state.
01:51:24.000Now, they knocked out the Russian energy.
01:51:26.000Now they're paying energy through the roof.
01:52:01.000And another thing, too, that a lot of people don't know is that there's a bunch of countries where people are protesting the increase in power and the food shortages.
01:53:04.000I mean, like half a million people were protesting in Paris the other day.
01:53:08.000You know, I mean, they are enormous and they are not being reported on by the mainstream media because, like I said before, they're paid for by the government.
01:53:15.000And the government says, we don't want you to show that to the people.
01:53:19.000I mean, Rumble isn't even allowed in France because of certain content creators that are on Rumble that France doesn't want people to see.
01:53:28.000So, I mean, there's definitely like a bottleneck in information being put out to certain places where the government doesn't necessarily want you to see it because they don't want you to see the people protesting with the high energy costs and everything else.
01:53:40.000And And here's the other thing, too, that I kind of noticed from having this conversation talking about this.
01:53:45.000See, the United States doesn't have to deal with this because, number one, the United States manufactures a lot of its own food.
01:53:52.000And then on top of that, the United States also manufactures a decent amount of their own energy, and we have our own military.
01:53:58.000So we're fairly independent of other places.
01:54:01.000Yes, of course, we're still slaves to China to a degree, right?
01:54:03.000But not to the same level as Western Europe.
01:54:06.000So I get what you're saying now when you're saying Western Europe is following America off the cliff.
01:54:13.000But Europe doesn't necessarily have the same, I guess, infrastructure that we enjoy over here in the United States.
01:55:26.000So it's like, I mean, what do you predict is going to happen here, Gonzales?
01:55:30.000I mean, we can see the walls kind of closing in on Western Europe when it comes to power, when it comes to food, and how this has kind of been like a domino effect with them sanctioning Russia, right?
01:55:43.000But the reality is they need Russian energy, and now one of the biggest exporters of wheat, which is used to make a bunch of food, is now controlled by Russia.
01:58:12.000That last sentence with the turning lefty, loosey, righty, tighty.
01:58:17.000Yeah, if they wanted to, if the Russians wanted to cut gas from Russia to the Europeans, all they have to do is just turn the fucking valve.
01:58:24.000They didn't need to destroy the thing.
01:58:26.000So it was obvious to everybody who was observing the situation that it wasn't the Russians who blew it up.
01:58:31.000To whose benefit was, am I still here?
01:59:56.000And he's gone on to one big story after the next.
01:59:59.000He revealed the clandestine bombing of Cambodia in 74, I think, or 73.
02:00:05.000He revealed the Abu Ghraib atrocities that were going on in Iraq.
02:00:10.000You know, those pictures of those Iraqi prisoners being mistreated and so forth.
02:00:16.000I mean, he is very plugged in, a very old school investigative journalist.
02:00:22.000And he wrote this huge piece that goes into the nitty gritty detail Of the Nord Stream bombing.
02:00:29.000And basically, the Americans came up with this plan.
02:00:32.000Joe Biden came up with this plan, actually, to blow up the Nord Stream pipeline.
02:00:36.000He gave the order in September of 2021, before the conflict started.
02:00:45.000Okay, so even then, they were planning on cutting off the pipeline, because the Americans do not ever want to have a strong German-Russian relationship, because they believe that if Germany pivots towards Russia and has a strong relationship with Russia,
02:01:01.000Then the rest of Europe will follow towards the Russians, away from the Americans.
02:04:04.000Germany is in a kind of strong, pivotal position where if they were to go ahead and align with Russia, it would cause us problems for the United States.
02:04:13.000And, you know, a lot of the times nowadays, right, ever since World War II, We're good to go.
02:04:36.000Ever since after World War II, it's been more of a clandestine-type operation to gain power between the world powers.
02:04:44.000I mean, every other week, you see an intelligence officer or agent being arrested in the United States by the FBI, and then vice versa, where an intelligence officer...
02:04:56.000From the United States getting arrested in Russia, etc., which is why the whole Brittany Griner trade, which was ridiculous.
02:05:02.000Matter of fact, you know, we might as well get your take on that.
02:05:05.000What was your thoughts on the Brittany Griner trade for the Lord of War?
02:06:37.000Apparently this guy was actually FSB and that he had been set up by the FSB to be this international arms trader so that he could find out who the actual traders were in this underworld.
02:06:49.000The Russians wanted him back very badly because he was one of their guys and their loyalty.
02:07:07.000He had been heavily involved in the international arms trade, not to make money for himself specifically, but rather to find out who the players were and get access to them and potentially be able to fuck them over if need be.
02:07:23.000He was an undercover operative, basically.
02:07:29.000The fact that the Russians were so hell-bent on getting this guy for years, ever since he was arrested, He was arrested in Thailand, I believe, and extradited to the United States.
02:08:27.000And this dumb basketball player, eventually the Russians would have cut her loose because she's just a dumb, you know, hippie chick, you know, with pot.
02:10:48.000You think that you are a lot fatter than you actually are.
02:10:51.000And we have to get you into treatments like psychological treatment, perhaps some medication, so that you understand that, no, you are perfectly fine and healthy as you are.
02:11:01.000And this, you know, refusing to eat for a week straight, it's going to wind up killing you.
02:11:17.000But yeah, I mean, like, if some girl, I'm a doctor, and some girl, some teenage girl, you know, who's weighing, you know, 80, 75 pounds, and she tells me, I'm too fat, I need to lose weight, I'd put her on medication and treatment, right?
02:12:23.000You know, not traumatic in a big like PTSD kind of way, but it's a big shock because all of a sudden they're a girl running around playing games as girls do of 9, 10, 11, 12 years old.
02:12:35.000They hit puberty and all of a sudden their hips start getting wider.
02:12:40.000Their boobs pop out, which is a shock to them.
02:12:43.000Like, what the fuck is going on there, right?
02:12:45.000And they start menstruating, of course, which is just shocking to them because before they just, you know, went and peed and no big deal.
02:12:52.000And all of a sudden, all this stuff is coming out of them.
02:12:56.000So many women, so many girls rather, go through a very awkward phase as their body transitions from being a child into being a woman.
02:13:07.000And many girls are very miserable about it.
02:13:10.000And a lot of girls go through a phase of using only baggy clothes because they find their body kind of repulsive in these changes that are occurring to them.
02:13:20.000And this is a natural stage in the development of any woman, of any female.
02:13:27.000And it's perfectly normal, but a lot of girls...
02:13:32.000Are brainwashed into thinking, oh, you're so uncomfortable in your body.
02:13:36.000Oh, it's because you're actually a man.
02:13:39.000And we should surgically remove your uterus and ovaries and your breasts and strip out a piece of your arm so we can create a phallus.
02:13:51.000And, you know, turn a little old guy, you know, which is insane.
02:13:56.000And of course, you know, these girls are young, and we all know how suggestible girls are.
02:14:03.000I'm not talking about girls and boys, too, for that matter.
02:14:13.000It's so easy to make them think that this is good and that's bad or vice versa.
02:14:18.000And it's so easy to inculcate into their little minds, little minds, I don't mean this despectively, but rather in their young minds, all kinds of notions that are fucking insane.
02:14:31.000And so you have this, you have also an issue of, and this is a dirty secret, there is a lot of money to be made in transgender surgery.
02:14:44.000There is something really, really interesting that I read on 4chan.
02:14:49.0004chan is still, it's kind of like the gutter of the internet.
02:14:53.000A lot of times some golden nuggets appear.
02:14:56.000There's some facts in there sometimes.
02:14:59.000And there was this guy who did like a long thread, I remember.
02:15:02.000He worked for, he was a lobbyist, and he worked for some medical group that was specifically about plastic surgery.
02:15:12.000And they tried out the notion of fomenting, by way of advertising and so forth, plastic surgery in Brazil.
02:15:20.000And one of the unintended side effects Was that a lot of men started applying for gender reassignment surgery.
02:15:29.000As they fomented, as they advertised plastic surgery to have the perfect body, the perfect face, the perfect body, implants and whatnot, because all these operations are extremely expensive, extremely lucrative.
02:15:43.000That's why they were lobbying for more of this and advertising and all the rest of it.
02:15:48.000They discovered that there was a substantial segment of people who for whatever reason, for whatever fetish, for whatever insanity they might have, they wanted to change sex.
02:15:58.000And that's how all of a sudden in Brazil, you started having all these gender reassignment surgeries, which the plastic surgeons were happy because it made them so much more money.
02:16:12.000And so a lot of this gender ideology is fueled because it makes money.
02:16:19.000There's also the fact that there's a lot of money behind the advertisement and fomenting of gender reassignment surgery.
02:16:26.000The Pritzker family in Chicago, they are this very rich family.
02:16:33.000That several of their members are trans, and they put a lot of money behind the trans causes, the various trans groups and what have you.
02:16:41.000And so, you know, it's a money play and an ideological play.
02:16:45.000And the only people who are going to suffer are these poor girls and these poor boys who transition as adolescents and then later realize, what have I done?
02:17:13.000And not only that, it allows a lot of really decadent people to basically pretend to be women so that they have access to female spaces and just do nasty shit or rape people and such.
02:17:29.000I mean, we hear about stories in prisons happening all the time.
02:17:32.000In women's prisons, some guy identifies as a woman and they put him in there and the guy starts raping women left and right in the prison.
02:17:39.000Yeah, I was going to say, yeah, that came up on the news.
02:17:42.000The guy literally committed a rape outside as a regular guy, changes gender to a woman, got put in jail with women.
02:17:51.000Yeah, not to mention that when you have these transgender individuals competing in sports, they demolish the women.
02:17:57.000Even though they're on drugs, right, and anti-hormone suppressants, etc., they're still destroying the women because at the end of the day, women are physically inferior to men, but we live in a clown world where we tell women that they're equal to men.
02:18:35.000But I remember very clearly, and you guys probably do too, being four, five, six years old and perhaps a little older, but I'm too embarrassed to admit it.
02:18:43.000I'm looking forward to Santa's visit and wondering, how come he never leaves any clues?
02:20:02.000If you were president of the United States, right?
02:20:06.000Or if you were ruler of the United States, some things that you would implement.
02:20:08.000In it, you said you would not necessarily get rid of gay people, but you wouldn't necessarily prop them up in society because they don't really contribute.
02:20:18.000Can you go into more detail about that?
02:20:20.000Yeah, because, you know, what's the future of any society?
02:23:13.000You're dealing with fucking pedos, you know?
02:23:15.000I mean, this is the level of decadence.
02:23:17.000And this is late-stage Roman Empire shit, okay?
02:23:19.000That kind of shit happens, you know, when an empire is collapsing.
02:23:23.000And that's what's going on in the United States, see?
02:23:26.000Because I'm talking about this particular issue.
02:23:28.000But the actions that the United States is carrying out in Ukraine, the actions, the war, rather, that is coming up with China, and that's happening in 2025.
02:23:39.000It's all because of a collapsing empire and a leadership class that knows that it's losing its grip and that the whole shit show is going up in flames, and so they are desperately lashing out, even as they fail to address any of the internal problems going on in the United States and the West.
02:23:55.000These people who are in leadership positions, they are lashing out, and they are doing all kinds of insanity in terms of foreign policy.
02:24:05.000The war against Russia, the coming war against China, That didn't need to happen.
02:24:11.000But it's symptomatic of a leadership class in the West that feels that its power is collapsing.
02:24:18.000And so in desperation, they're lashing out and using all available resources, even as within the United States, within the Western democracies, you're seeing this kind of decadence and degeneracy.
02:24:30.000You're seeing all those poor people in Portland, in San Francisco, homeless people, people with mental problems, shitting on the streets and shooting up in broad daylight.
02:24:41.000You know, these are all symptoms of imperial collapse.
02:25:44.000So what happens is that an empire decays slowly and then all of a sudden, okay?
02:25:51.000It's like things are going not too well, they're kind of going bad, and then all of a sudden there's this tipping point moment where the slide really goes downhill, okay?
02:26:17.000I've given it a great deal of thought.
02:26:19.000And if there is a suggestion, I'd love to hear it.
02:26:21.000I mean, I'm not closed off to any suggestion, realistic suggestion that could change things around.
02:26:28.000But see, the entire political class in the United States, the Republicans and the Democrats that have the whole political system locked up tight, they're all on the same page.
02:26:36.000They have differences of opinion here and there and little shit.
02:26:39.000But generally, they're all marching to the same beat.
02:26:42.000You have a few people in Congress, for instance, who are making a lot of noise and want to prevent this decay, because perhaps they don't articulate it as a decay, but they fundamentally sense it's a decay.
02:26:54.000And some of them are trying to fight against this decay, and I admire them, but I think it's kind of like a hopeless cause, to tell you the truth.
02:27:04.000In 10 years, the United States that will exist in 10 years will be, you know, it will be like a third world country.
02:27:12.000It will be some like shithole, the whole fucking thing.
02:27:15.000Because see, San Francisco, Portland, that's the future of all of the United States.
02:27:22.000So you got to understand what's coming.
02:27:23.000You got to see, I'm always for realism.
02:27:27.000And I always believe in looking at things in the face and not pretending that they're not happening or not pretending that it's not really there or it's not that bad.
02:27:37.000And when you see this insanity going on, minor attracted people, the homelessness situation, the fact that, you know, limitless numbers of foreigners are arriving in the United States and now you have drug wars of the Mexican drug cartels taking place in New Mexico and Arizona.
02:27:55.000You know, the whole shit show is falling apart.
02:27:58.000And I don't see realistically a way to turn back the tide because there are too many people who think that, number one, this is, on ideological grounds, they think this is a good thing, all this shit show that's going on.
02:28:10.000Because they do think that it's a good thing, which is fucking insane, but okay.
02:28:13.000But then there are other people who stand to make a lot of money from this collapse.
02:28:28.000Yeah, I think from what I've seen, and you know, it's always interesting because like one of the barometers that I like to use, I've never said this, but I'll say it here on Rumble.
02:28:38.000One of the barometers I like to use about, you know, Western and American lunacy is my friend John from Modern Life Dating.
02:29:19.000When I graduated in 2013 from Northeastern University in Boston, it was one thing.
02:29:23.000You can have these conversations a little bit.
02:29:26.000But nowadays, if you were to have these conversations with someone that's a college student or whatever, they'd look at you like you're a bigot, whatever.
02:29:32.000Anything that doesn't, I guess, agree with far-left ideals is considered...
02:30:32.000Like, this is, we literally are just slowly descending into a clown world where we got celebrities openly advocating to change your child to another gender when that kid can barely form any type of real rational thought.
02:31:35.000Yeah, you know, as a Chilean, I grew up knowing that I had a straight cultural line from, you know, Chile to Spain to Rome to the classical Greeks, right?
02:34:32.000And she's dressed with skin-tight clothing, right?
02:34:35.000And her rolls of flesh popping out from over her jeans, you know, like an ice cream cone, right?
02:34:42.000And she's like, you know, I'm not going to settle for a guy who's not like a millionaire who's 6'2 and has a six-pack and a six-foot-long dick.
02:35:37.000Now that we're on Rumble, I'll tell the story.
02:35:40.000Once I did fuck a 300-pound land whale, but it was so fucking fun.
02:35:46.000I really, because like, you know, I went through a phase, like in my 30s, early 30s, you know, where you're like, you know, what do you like?
02:36:35.000And from there, you know, in my early 30s, you know, and I'm sure I'm going to burn in hell for this, I just went through a bucket list, you know, of different combinations, you know, ethnicities, everything, you know.
02:36:46.000You know, FMM threesomes, you know, check.
02:36:53.000I was in Alaska because I went on this road trip with my dog.
02:36:57.000And I had a Land Rover, and I went from New York City to Boston, then Toronto, then around the Great Lakes, up to Calgary, Edmonton, then across the Rocky Mountains.
02:37:09.000Oh, and I went to Yellowknife, too, up in Canada.
02:37:34.000You know, and it was just like swimming in an ocean of flesh.
02:37:38.000You know, I felt like it was just like, you know, like that, like moving it aside and like, look at this role, pushing it aside and pushing this other.
02:38:48.000That's something that people don't understand.
02:38:50.000Or perhaps your audience does, but for those of you who don't in the audience, let me explain.
02:38:55.000When feminism started to arise in the 1960s, there was a lot of American Chamber of Commerce types and people like that and people who were trying to, you know, capitalist institutions on a local level.
02:39:12.000They started encouraging feminism because, you see, See, a lawyer traditionally was a guy, right?
02:40:05.000Anyway, if I get cut off, you know, it's because of that.
02:40:08.000But anyway, the point is that, see, the professional organizations of all stripes, medicine, legal, they started encouraging women and funding feminism in order to encourage women to get degrees and advanced degrees and enter the workforce to drive down the price of labor.
02:40:53.000But in law, you know, compared to a longshoreman or a pipeline worker, right?
02:40:59.000The pipeline worker's salary was here.
02:41:02.000The lawyer's was probably higher, right?
02:41:04.000But as more women became lawyers because of feminism that encouraged them and told them, look, you can't be a real woman.
02:41:11.000If you don't have a career, you have to have a career and you prioritize a career.
02:41:15.000Well, the price, the cost of the lawyer, just for inflation, went down.
02:41:20.000Because there were more lawyers, because there were more women working as lawyers, sacrificing childbearing and childrearing for the sake of lowering the cost of labor.
02:41:39.000I don't know if it's still around, but it used to be around.
02:41:43.000The people funding that, it wasn't funded by subscriptions and sales and ad revenue.
02:41:48.000It was funded by professional organizations and corporations.
02:41:54.000Precisely to encourage more women to join the workforce so as to drive down the price of labor.
02:42:00.000So you've got to understand there's that situation.
02:42:03.000And then this is second wave feminism.
02:42:05.000Second wave feminism is when all these women started foregoing having children and instead decided to work as a lawyer in value-added, brain-intensive occupations.
02:42:18.000So the women didn't become longshoremen or oil rig workers.
02:42:23.000They became lawyers because in a law firm, you know, physically, what do you do?
02:42:28.000You get on an elevator, walk to your office and write a lot.
02:42:31.000That's the physical demands of the occupation, quite frankly.
02:42:36.000And so women went into those jobs and those jobs salaries decreased.
02:42:42.000And all of a sudden you had families where before it was just the guy making a living and the wife was the housewife, the homemaker, and she had the children and looked after the house.
02:42:55.000And with his salary alone, they could afford a fairly decent lifestyle.
02:42:59.000But now you need both to be working to afford the same lifestyle.
02:43:04.000And of course, because they're both working, they can't have as many children.
02:43:26.000But there's this insistence that women, on the one hand, women are just as good as men and there should be equality and all the rest of it.
02:43:36.000But on the other hand, women want to have their traditional privileges that existed before feminism.
02:43:43.000Basically, they want to eat their cake and have it too.
02:43:49.000So these women are incredibly entitled.
02:43:50.000And on top of that, you have social media that gives them unrealistic expectations for what they can achieve with their lives, insofar as their job, insofar as their lifestyle, and insofar as the man that they can achieve, that they can get and hold.
02:44:05.000And on top of that, you have this open sexualization, this promiscuity.
02:44:14.000And this was understood in the 60s, you see?
02:44:16.000In the 60s when the sexual revolution hit.
02:44:19.000And there's a very good book called The Closing of the American Mind by Alan Bloom that he discusses this.
02:44:24.000He was a professor at Cornell and he discussed how a lot of students, male students, would see all of a sudden these girls start sleeping around.
02:44:33.000And they would say, these women are throwing their lives away.
02:45:10.000But when you have this free-for-all in the sexual marketplace, you have all these women who think that they can score some Chad permanently, and they can't.
02:45:19.000So they fuck some guy who's like way above them in the hierarchy and they're bitter about it for the rest of their lives and they settle.
02:47:33.000As far as Alaskan fishermen, all the jobs that create infrastructure that are difficult to do, they're run by men.
02:47:39.000But when you look at the top 10 jobs that women have, they're all useless jobs that, quite frankly, don't really contribute to the infrastructure of society.
02:47:46.000What it does is it allows women to go into the workforce, but what women don't understand is they inadvertently decrease the price of labor.
02:47:54.000It puts them in a situation where they now have to work.
02:47:56.000And another thing too, Gonzalo, that I've seen you talk about before, which I think is a fantastic point, but even though people try to fight against this, you know, women derive more pleasure from a family and children than they do a career.
02:48:07.000And I think that's where you were going to go next here.
02:48:11.000I've said that many times for years now.
02:48:14.000You've been saying it for a very long time.
02:48:16.000And I remember you cited a study from Ireland, and I'd be happy if you have anything else as well that kind of stands to this, where after COVID, women left the workforce, right?
02:48:26.000Well, they came back from the workforce, right, to be at home, and they worked from home and taking care of loved ones, et cetera.
02:48:32.000And when COVID was over, and the pandemic kind of subsided, and people were able to re-enter, et cetera, most of the women elected to actually stay at home with the loved ones.
02:50:12.000And what's most important is, again, to round back to what we were talking about, about transgender stuff.
02:50:18.000See, like I said, young people are very easy to manipulate.
02:50:22.000And so it's very easy to manipulate girls, young women, you know, 20-somethings, into thinking that they have to have a career above all else.
02:50:31.000And by the time they're old enough to realize what makes them truly happy is something completely different, i.e.
02:50:37.000having a family of their own, children of their own, having strong social bonds with their extended family and their community.
02:50:45.000By the time they realize it, they're too late to have children.
02:50:50.000And as a society, we rescind our responsibility to show to women, no, you don't want to go into the workforce.
02:50:58.000You want to create these social conditions so that when you're 40, when you're 50, when you're 60, and to the day you die, you're surrounded by people who love you and who you love.
02:51:10.000And the society doesn't encourage this.
02:51:13.000Because of financial reasons, for the financial benefit of rich people, basically, they encourage women, brainwash women, into pursuing lives that are going to make them deeply, deeply unhappy.
02:51:28.000Because there is no such thing as a happy female attorney.
02:51:33.000I dated a few when I was living in Manhattan.
02:52:05.000She chased a career, income, travel, etc.
02:52:09.000And it wasn't until she found Andrew Tate that she realized she fucked up, that she had wasted her best years with Not finding the best man that she could.
02:52:19.000And she kind of believed this lie of feminism of chasing a career, making money, etc.
02:52:23.000And now, at 33 years old, she's trying to find a man and get a family.
02:52:29.000And it took Andrew Tate, according to mainstream media, Mr.
02:52:32.000Toxically Masculine, for her to wake up.
02:52:35.000But we don't tell women this until it's too late.
02:52:37.000Because here's the difference between a man that's 33 and a woman that's 33.
02:52:40.000A man that's 33 can still have a family.
02:52:42.000A woman that's 33, well, most of her rugs are gone.
02:54:39.000But the reality for women is that unless heroic medical procedures are undertaken, a woman past the age of 37 to 42 is unlikely to conceive naturally and bear a healthy child.
02:55:16.000How do I know more about your body than you know about yours?
02:55:18.000But it just goes back to show the intense propaganda that feminism has fed women in the West to let them think that they have more time than they really do.
02:55:26.000And that woman coming on the show, admitting that was a really interesting and profound moment.
02:55:32.000We've had a couple of women come on and admit, yeah, I pissed away my 20s.
02:56:18.000But speaking of transitioning over, Gonzalo, I mean, you spent a considerable amount of time in all different parts of the world, to include Eastern Europe, which is where Romania is located.
02:56:27.000What are your thoughts on the situation with Andrew and what's going on with this case?
02:56:34.000Okay, as I understand it, no victim, like, credible victim has come forward.
02:56:39.000And in fact, all the women he associated with say that he didn't mistreat them or do anything untrue towards them, right?
02:56:45.000Yeah, two of them actually came forward and said, like, why is Dicot using our statements?
02:57:17.000And my suspicion is that somebody put the screws on the Romanians to pick him up.
02:57:24.000You know, and I saw some clip of Tate himself saying that, you know, the first thing they do is cancel you, then they arrest you for trumped up charges, and the third is that they take you out.
02:57:59.000I think that if we're looking at it really cold-bloodedly, he should have been smarter about how he arranged his affairs so as not to fall into this trap.
02:58:09.000Because it was a predictable trap that he'd be picked up by the Romanians.
02:58:24.000He could have figured out a way to get in good with the authorities of whatever country he was living in to make sure that they didn't touch him, you know?
03:02:32.000Whenever you're in a strange situation, wherever you're in a situation where you might be vulnerable or whatever, you have to find the man who controls your experience.
03:02:44.000And you put the correct amount of money into that correct hand.
03:03:21.000Well, obviously not enough or not well enough.
03:03:24.000See, I think that there were other plays at hand where there was intense international pressure to do something because, you know, I know the U.S. Embassy got involved when this girl from Miami alleged that she had been kidnapped, which we all know is a lie.
03:03:40.000We have TikTok videos to show that she was in the home, hanging out, having fun, went on a trip with this other Moldovan girl who claimed that Andrew also did something to her.
03:03:48.000And, you know, it's all been refuted basically through their own social media that they were hanging out with the Tate brothers after making the allegations and they were in the house taking TikToks, Snapchats, Instagrams or whatever.
03:03:58.000And this girl from Miami, what happened was she took a story in the Tate home.
03:04:03.000The boyfriend recognized it, said, what are you doing in Romania?
03:04:07.000And she panics and says, oh, I'm being held here against my will.
03:04:50.000Well, I think he started to get too much influence in a lot of the elites, as he refers to as the Matrix.
03:04:55.000Well, Andrew's taking money out of people's pockets if he's telling them COVID's a scam, have multiple passports, don't be locked down in one country, etc.
03:05:03.000All of this stuff is very anti-establishment.
03:05:08.000So I think his success and his popularity and galvanizing men, because the most dangerous thing you can have is galvanized men that are motivated, I think that was what scared people to say, yo, we got to silence this guy.
03:06:00.000I personally think that when he went on Piers Morgan, he should have known that it would be smart to take some serious precautions.
03:06:08.000Perhaps go to some country where it was not possible to easily extradite him, or where things would have, you know, been able to be more easily smoothed over.
03:06:29.000I'm not saying that not by one little bit.
03:06:32.000But I'm saying that, you know, for your audience, when you become high profile, you have to know where your weak points are or the avenues where you can be gotten to.
03:06:45.000And so you have to make preparations and be ready and forge the right relationships so that you don't get caught under the wheels of the bus.
03:07:20.000But the situation he's caught himself in, yeah.
03:07:25.000I agree that one of the motivations was that a lot of guys were following Andrew Tate and were starting to implement the things that he was saying, which were perfectly reasonable.
03:07:34.000It's basically the shit I was saying as Coach Redville.
03:07:38.000It's not that great minds think alike.
03:07:40.000It's that people notice the same fucking things.
03:07:47.000Andrew Tate, good for him, was saying it in a way that was much more that garnered a shitloads more attention than I ever did.
03:07:55.000But the point I want to make about the Tate situation is it's a lesson that you have to be prepared for different contingencies.
03:08:06.000In a way that can get you out of a tight spot with minimal effort and minimal pain.
03:08:13.000I personally think, and I get no pleasure out of saying this, but I think that the Tate brothers are going to be in there for a long, long time.
03:08:23.000And this is not something that I would like, on the contrary.
03:08:27.000But I think he's going to be silenced definitively.
03:08:30.000I do believe that he can get on social media like an hour a day or something like that.
03:08:35.000I don't know because I occasionally see his Twitter feed and tweet once in a while.
03:08:41.000So I don't know how much outside access he has.
03:09:13.000I mean, from watching this case, you know, the fact that they're able to even hold them in preventative detention with no charges filed for this long is ludicrous.
03:09:20.000And I mean, you know, I'm a bit more optimistic.
03:09:23.000I, you know, we're going to do everything in our power to get these guys.
03:09:27.000We spent a considerable amount of time with them in Romania and, you know, they're personal friends.
03:09:31.000And, you know, this is one of the few things, not many things bother me, but this situation with Andrew Tate has been bothering me.
03:12:33.000He's got like mommy issues or this or that, the other.
03:12:36.000No, he's just a good looking, rich guy, famous guy, snagged the best that he could get, which is this really odd 19 year old and good on him.
03:12:45.000You know, I don't have a problem with it.
03:13:29.000I deserve the man of my dreams regardless of my past behaviors or what I bring to the table.
03:13:34.000Whereas guys like Andrew Tate and Leonardo DiCaprio are showing otherwise.
03:13:38.000Hey, you actually control the realm of relationships and you need to hold that standard to some level to get these girls to get in place.
03:13:46.000And women don't like to be held to a standard, yet they like to hold men to a standard.
03:13:49.000And that is why so many feminists and so many angry women get mad at Andrew Tate and Leonardo DiCaprio because they exemplify with their actions that women's sexual market value is indeed perishable.
03:14:26.000That offends a lot of women because it ostracizes the large majority of them that chose to pick feminism.
03:14:33.000So I think that also is a part of it as well because you got a guy who is literally the archetype that women want telling men on a male-dominated podcast that older women are not in your best interest.
03:15:03.000See, you never want a gay girl who's in her late 20s or early 30s for the simple fact that they want to have a kid.
03:15:11.000They've been around the cock carousel, in that famous phrase, and they want to, quote-unquote, settle down and have a kid, you know, and have a family, right?
03:15:35.000And you don't want that to happen because you're going to be stuck with a woman and the financial responsibilities with a woman who is not at all who you thought she was.
03:15:46.000Before, she would do all kinds of sexual adventures and always be cooking and cleaning and being perfect.
03:15:54.000But once she gets married, she figures, ah, I can finally take off the mask.
03:15:59.000I can just relax because I locked him down.
03:16:02.000That's why you never date a woman who's in her late 20s, early 30s.
03:16:05.000You only want to go with early 20s girls because they're going to be who they are, okay?
03:16:11.000And sometimes, you know, sometimes they're just promiscuous women who are fun for a weekend or a weekend.
03:16:19.000Or a few weeks or a couple of months, perhaps.
03:16:21.000But, you know, catch and release, right?
03:16:24.000There are other girls who are very decent girls.
03:16:26.000And, you know, the decent girls who have their heads screwed on straight, usually because they have a strong family of their own.
03:16:33.000They come from a strong family of their own.
03:16:39.000And, you know, those girls, yeah, they want a family, and who they are is who they are, and so you want to lock that girl down, sure, because she's a high-valued girl.
03:17:24.000And they're going to get married now, and I know for a fact that they're going to have a bunch of kids, because he's told me, because we're close friends, and he's told me, yeah, we're going to have one right away, and then, you know, maybe, you know, 18 months, two years later, another kid, and, you know...
03:17:42.000So, you know, the point is that you have to understand that sometimes, you know, the highest girl You know, you don't want to be with her long term.
03:17:52.000Sometimes the girl who is the complete package, okay?
03:17:57.000I mean, like, my days when I was living in Manhattan in the late 90s, early 2000s, right?
03:18:02.000For me, that was like, you know, that was the ultimate red pill moment because by circumstance, I knew a few people who were in the fashion business.
03:18:11.000And I got to go to fashion shows and meet models, right?
03:18:15.000And my friends were better looking and cooler than I was, you know, so I got the rejects.
03:18:19.000But you know, the rejects were great anyway, you know.
03:19:41.000Social status is huge in Manhattan, too, for the people that are wondering.
03:19:44.000When you're talking about New York City, you know, its status is extremely important in places like Los Angeles, Miami, New York City, etc.
03:20:01.000People underestimate, like I've always said, if you could pick one amplifier to be the most attractive to the largest demographic of women, it's 1,000% status.
03:20:10.000Like your looks are definitely, you know, help, but someone who's famous is always going to pull more chicks than just a simply handsome guy.
03:20:20.000But it's more sophisticated than that, because it's not merely status, okay?
03:20:24.000Because what women fundamentally want is a guy who they sense can protect them, but not just physically them, but that the guy has a wide social network of friends, family, acquaintances, that he's plugged into a society, okay?
03:20:39.000Because the lone guy is not somebody that a woman will necessarily be attracted to, no matter how handsome and rich he might be.
03:20:48.000He has to be plugged in on a social level, okay?
03:20:51.000And be somebody that other people know and respect, see?
03:21:14.000Talking to some people there, and there's this very attractive girl.
03:21:18.000And all of a sudden, my film agent, who was a big deal in Hollywood, he came up to me to talk about some stuff, and we shared a joke and a laugh, and then we wandered off.
03:21:30.000But this girl recognized this agent, because he was a big deal.
03:21:33.000And all of a sudden, she started paying me all kinds of attention.
03:21:37.000Because before, I'd just been a writer, and I'd been talking her up a little bit, and she figured, oh, he's just another writer.
03:21:42.000This very big-time agent came to me, and we just talked a little bit about this and that and the other, and we shared a laugh, but automatically the girl saw that I wasn't just a writer.
03:22:23.000And all it took was this short, dumpy, balding guy with glasses, but who was a very big deal in Hollywood, for her to realize, oh, Gonzalo has value.
03:23:05.000So they figure that, okay, I have to look good.
03:23:07.000I have to work out 10 hours a day, you know, and get the perfect haircut and just the perfect clothes and everything.
03:23:14.000And that's how I will get the girls because I will be physically attractive and therefore they will respond the same way that I respond to the physical attractiveness of a woman.
03:23:49.000But necessarily, it implies that the more money you have, the more successful you are in your social interactions, in your business, your career, or what have you.
03:23:59.000If I walk around flashing a lot of $100 bills, no pretty girl is going to give me the time of day.
03:24:07.000But one fat little guy who's a big deal, and she knows that he's a big deal, talking to me, laughing with me, and looking forward to some meeting that we're going to have in a few days, is worth far more than $50,000 waved in her face.
03:24:24.000Yeah, it's it's women are attracted to.
03:24:28.000I've said this to like so many times where, you know, it's not the money that women are attracted to.
03:24:34.000It takes to earn the money that women are attracted to.
03:24:37.000This is why a millionaire is attracted to women, because if you were a millionaire, right, maybe not now, nowadays, because you can just, you know, get into crypto at the right time and pull out.
03:24:46.000But it used to be, right, if you were a millionaire, you had networking skills, you had social skills, you had a number of percent degree for you to be able to earn that money.
03:24:53.000You had some type of knowledge to be able to invest properly, etc.
03:24:58.000So women were attracted to the characteristics of making that money.
03:25:02.000And in the back, as you guys know, Gonzalo actually is in Ukraine, contrary to what all the haters do.
03:25:10.000And he's doing this podcast with us right now in the face of potentially getting bombed by the Russians.
03:25:14.000I got a great picture of the building next to mine got hit back in early September, like a Russian missile, and I can't post it publicly because it would reveal my location.
03:25:27.000Because you can see the skyline very clearly.
03:28:15.000The point is, if you look at the map, it's three blocks away from the World Trade Center as the crows fly.
03:28:21.000And the thing is, see, it's really funny because it happened on a Tuesday, right?
03:28:26.000And on Tuesdays and Thursdays during the summer, And Tuesdays during the fall, there would be a farmer's market in the parking lot around the World Trade Center.
03:28:56.000And so on Tuesday, they probably would have been a farmer's market and, you know, probably would have gotten clobbered by debris or some falling body or some shit like that, you know?
03:29:06.000And so I kind of like, you know, on the one hand, I missed it by exactly 30 days.
03:29:12.000I had the stamp in my passport to prove it.
03:29:47.000I know, uh, people in the chat are already going wild about 9-11.
03:29:50.000I, I did a whole, I did a whole series on 9-11, so I'm fairly well versed on the topic with, you know, the 9-11 commission versus the, um, you know, the official and the unofficial narratives.
03:30:01.000Um, Ryan Dawson, I think, did an awesome interview with Sneeko where he talked about, um, Some Israeli involvement with 9-11 and you had some facts to back it up.
03:30:18.000Well, what I have to say about 9-11 is that, number one, I am positive that a lot of the truther movement is actually a style by Israeli and American intelligence to muddy the waters, to poison the well.
03:31:25.000It's not something that you can hide that shit, okay?
03:31:28.000So claiming that that was a controlled demolition and all that shit.
03:31:32.000The word I'm hearing from people who seem to be fairly plugged in The whole thing was financed by the Mossad.
03:31:40.000They're the ones who financed these guys to do it.
03:31:43.000Deliberately, with the intent of hitting these two buildings, Hitting all these locations because they wanted a Pearl Harbor moment so as to goad the United States into going to a war in the Middle East against Iraq,
03:32:01.000which the Israelis were just completely paranoid about.
03:32:04.000And there's a very interesting memo called Clean Break Memo.
03:32:13.000It was written in the mid-90s by a bunch of Israeli-American thinkers.
03:32:21.000And it was basically a strategy for no more negotiation with Middle Eastern countries and just regime change across the board, across the Middle East, starting with Iraq and Syria and moving on to Iran eventually.
03:32:38.000You know, the whole thing, it seems that it was like a Pearl Harbor moment deliberately created so as to go to the United States into going an all-out war in the Middle East, which is exactly what happened.
03:32:50.000I mean, after all these hijackers, which I believe, I mean, I'm positive that they were who they say they were, that they were all Saudi nationalists.
03:32:58.000But they didn't go after Saudi Arabia.
03:33:34.000You know, there's the dancing Israelis.
03:33:37.000There's the fact that there were all these financial moves in the options markets.
03:33:41.000Where some people made a shit ton of fucking money because they had insider information, because they optioned stocks of General Electric and certain insurance companies and airlines that were way out of the money that would pay off huge if there was a sudden drop in the price of those stocks,
03:34:50.000You can try to hide that particular data point.
03:34:54.000Or you can surround it with so many false data points that nobody knows where to start and nobody knows which one is the real important information, the important data point.
03:35:17.000And so, you know, a lot of the truther talk and all that shit, if it doesn't, if it's not discussing Israeli involvement in 9-11, then it's bullshit.
03:35:28.000You know, and when I was watching that interview with Sneeko and Ryan Dawson, which I think everybody here may have already seen or whatever, he made a lot of really good points.
03:35:36.000And one of the things he actually talked about was how, like, a lot of conspiracy theorists, what they've done is, especially with, like, the 9-11 situation, is...
03:35:46.000Their theories were so ludicrous that it hurt the quality of anyone else coming forward with some type of information.
03:35:54.000So when they came forward with the information like, hey, did you know that the World Trade Center was purchased by, I think the guy's name was Larry Silverstein, and he took out like a rare and strange terrorist policy.
03:36:22.000And that Silverstein bought it a month before it happened, that was just dumb luck.
03:36:26.000All kinds of weird shit sometimes happens.
03:36:28.000For instance, when John Kennedy was assassinated, do you know that on the very day that he was assassinated, on that very morning, Richard Nixon, of all people, you know, the former presidential candidate, you know, he had run again in 68, right?
03:37:17.000And somebody very sophisticated explained to me that somebody who bet out of the money, that is out of the probable range of the price of those particular stocks, who bet so much out of the money, that was just a red flag.
03:37:32.000And that told them that somebody knew.
03:37:33.000I mean, a lot of people must have known to have made those bets.
03:37:36.000And so you connect the dots like who's plugged in financially, And who's plugged in to some op like this, assuming it's like Mossad or the Israelis?
03:37:47.000And, you know, you kind of like connect the dots and it becomes pretty obvious.
03:38:33.000I mean, I don't know if he's a friend of yours or you just had him on, but I'll say, I mean, anything he says, it's got an ulterior motive, and he's trying to shape some narrative.
03:38:43.000I mean, I've never met the guy, never interacted with the guy, but I can spot a bullshitter when I see it, probably because I'm so good at bullshit myself.
03:38:51.000I'm telling you, that guy, no, no, uh-uh.
03:38:57.000Yeah, because he did say one interesting thing that I think, even though you're skeptical of him, which is fair in itself, you know, obviously, you know, I respect your viewpoint.
03:39:06.000One thing that he did say that stuck out to me that I thought was very interesting was the capability of the Mossad and how they're very underrated, yet they're probably one of the biggest threats as an intelligence agency.
03:39:51.000I don't think that many, you know, intelligence chiefs are going to, former current intelligence chiefs are going to show up at your funeral or mine.
03:41:29.000Okay, who's also going to Pedow Island, you know, and is part of a club.
03:41:32.000And Steve says to Ghislaine, he tells Ghislaine, look, you know, there's a bill that's going to come up in Congress that I really need it to pass because it will affect my business in a very positive way.
03:41:44.000It represents like a billion dollars from me or some shit like that.
03:41:48.000And so Ghislaine will say, okay, no problem.
03:41:50.000So she calls up John Smith, the Congressman John Smith, and tells Congressman Smith, hey, you know, it would be really great that this bill that's coming up, why don't you vote yes?
03:42:40.000And she turns to Steve that, you know, or some other guy of this network and organizes a few of them to chip in, you know, a million each, which is chump change to these guys, to fund some super PAC. That is independent of John Smith,
03:42:57.000the candidate, but will buy advertising and do all kinds of promotion for Congressman John Smith so that he wins his re-election.
03:43:06.000So you see, it's not that, you know, you went to Pedo Island and so Ghislaine calls you up and says, okay, give us a hundred grand or we'll reveal pictures of you fucking some 15 year old.
03:45:46.000He'd need an income of at least $150 million would be enough for that lifestyle.
03:45:53.000And so that automatically clues you in.
03:45:56.000I mean, the jet fuel is probably a million a month on its own.
03:45:59.000I don't know how much it is specifically, but it's going to be up there.
03:46:02.000Because all these places, they have staffing, they have maintenance repairs, they have security.
03:46:10.000Security takes a huge chunk of the shit like that.
03:46:14.000So all of a sudden, if you told me that his petto island was costing him...
03:46:20.000I mean, I would guesstimate, and this is just me flipping about it, but I don't think that he could get away with a petto island, just the island.
03:47:26.000You know, it was in the tens of millions.
03:47:28.000But there was a huge fucking paper trail.
03:47:31.000Yeah, inevitably, any trade that I made running this money, I had to, you know, there was all kinds of paperwork and bureaucratic bullshit, you know, on movies and shit, they just make a call and make the trade.
03:47:44.000But they don't tell you how the lawyers later have to go through all these trades and do the proper paperwork and all kinds of bureaucratic shit for these trades.
03:47:55.000So the fact that there's no paper trail for Epstein's trades, even though he was supposed to be managing money, What the fuck?
03:48:07.000And he was financed by a foreign government, likely the Israelis, or likely, much more likely, actually, than the Israeli government itself.
03:48:15.000It was probably, you know, Israeli-American business people who were putting together the cash to keep the whole thing going so as to maintain this operation.
03:48:52.000I was talking to a girlfriend, an ex-girlfriend, a few months ago.
03:48:58.000It was like a junior or something like that.
03:49:00.000And she was like, holy shit, you're in Ukraine!
03:49:03.000Anyway, the point is, because when I was arrested, I lost all access to my former accounts, and I had to restart all the accounts and emails from memory and shit like that.
03:49:14.000And I remembered her email because it was just a memorable one.
03:49:18.000And so I texted her, this is my new email, and we got in touch, you know, Zoom call and whatnot.
03:49:23.000And the thing is, she told me, we haven't been in touch in a number of years, okay?
03:50:11.000And, you know, once again, shout out to Dawson.
03:50:13.000He did a good documentary, talked to NUMEC. And something that a lot of people don't talk about or know...
03:50:18.000Is that a lot of Israelis in the United States were caught for gunrunning and moving weapons to Israel post-World War II with all the surplus of weapons through South America into Israel.
03:50:33.000And, you know, Maxwell was part of that.
03:50:36.000Yeah, and there's documents, there's FBI reports on this that were declassified that showed that there was an entire gun-running organization from the United States through South America done by the American mafia, the Jewish mafia,
03:50:52.000and business owners in the United States.
03:50:54.000And this has not really been reported on at all.
03:50:59.000So, you know, there's a lot of things that, you know, typically are not going to be put out in mainstream media for obvious reasons.
03:51:05.000But that's something that I thought was very interesting as well that I did not know about this, this gun running venture in the 40s.
03:51:11.000That's where Maxwell, Robert Maxwell, Gillian's father, that's how he got connected and plugged in with Israeli intelligence, because he was running guns.
03:51:20.000And look, I don't have a problem with it because he considered it his patriotic duty or his duty to his religion.
03:51:34.000There are some crimes that I understand completely and I don't have a problem with.
03:51:39.000You have a nascent nation like the Israeli state in 1948 after the partition and all that.
03:51:49.000And, you know, some people who are Jewish, who are sympathetic to the state of Israel, extremely sympathetic, and consider it their homeland and they want to protect it and they run guns, don't have a problem with that at all.
03:52:03.000I mean, if there was a Chilean diaspora and Chile found a new place, a new home somewhere, And yeah, if I had any possibility to help in any way that I could, it means running guns or something, I'd certainly do it.
03:52:17.000Sure, I don't have a problem with that on a moral level.
03:52:19.000What I do have a problem with is creating a network of a little circle of favor swapping based on pedophilia and basically raping little girls.
03:52:33.000The famous story is, of course, of Bill Gates and his particular proclivity.
03:53:50.000That's my take on this whole situation.
03:53:54.000If somebody gets around, gets together with his buds, you know, and they snort cocaine and bang a bunch of overage models, good on them, you know?
03:54:03.000I mean, shit, why didn't you invite me, motherfucker?
03:54:06.000But, like, you know, doing nasty shit to really innocent children.
03:55:59.000And so, yeah, I mean, I think that it was just deeply, amusingly ironic, right?
03:56:05.000I mean, I'm not going to be crying for the guy, because even though he doesn't have two billion anymore, you know, he's still got a few hundred million probably, you know?
03:56:13.000I mean, It's clear, though, that the guy is a little bit nuts, and it's clear, too, that the people around him were manipulating his mental illness in order to get advantage out of him.
03:56:23.000There was that trainer of his, a Jewish fellow, I understand, who basically sent him some direct messages saying, you know, if you don't play ball, we're going to put you on the meds again like the last time.
03:57:07.000Is you're able to express yourself freely, which is why art is the way that it is and why people love it so much because it's freedom of expression, correct?
03:57:14.000However, when it comes to spoken word, being able to articulate yourself and most importantly, being able to articulate yourself from a perspective of maybe on a podcast or some kind of platform where you're trying to convey an idea.
03:57:47.000Kanye West, I would say, is more like a machine gun.
03:57:49.000He says the truth, he says what people want to say, but he's hitting a bunch of other things at the same time because he's not being able to convey himself in the proper way because he still has an artist mindset.
03:58:58.000Can you repeat that last part there so everyone knows what you're talking about?
03:59:00.000I said that in medieval literature, there's the holy fool, especially in orthodox Christianity.
03:59:06.000The holy fool is the fool who Who has a direct line to God, who tells the truth, okay?
03:59:14.000And I'm saying that I personally do not believe in God, and I have no truck with believers.
03:59:21.000I wish I believed, because I think that my life would be a lot happier in many respects.
03:59:26.000But unfortunately, I'm not so blessed.
03:59:28.000But the concept remains of the holy fool, and I think that Kanye West is that.
03:59:33.000He is the man who is wildly talented, and he's basically a fool.
03:59:39.000Not a fool like a stupid person, but rather like a fool like the court jester, like somebody who runs around, and he acts kind of crazy, but what he says...
03:59:59.000And so a lot of times, yeah, of course, he'll say things that seem nonsensical and just stupid and do stupid shit.
04:00:05.000Like when he showed up on Alex Jones' show, dressed up with a balaclava over his head and shit like that.
04:00:12.000You're like, what the fuck is this guy doing?
04:00:14.000And if you look at him, if you compare him to somebody like Andrew Tate, who's much more together, who's much more direct, And much more precise.
04:00:23.000Then you're going to say about Kanye, oh, you know, Kanye is just fucking it up.
04:00:27.000But if you look at him from the context of the Holy Fool, and I would recommend for your viewers to Google the concept of the Holy Fool, okay?
04:00:35.000I insist, it's not saying that somebody's stupid.
04:00:38.000It's just like this crazy person who tells the truth because he's touched by God.
04:04:25.000Well, just basically, I agree with you about, you know, the machine gun analogy that I stated before, whatever.
04:04:32.000I think my thing is just that he's not necessarily lying.
04:04:35.000He just needs to be able to convey his ideas in a better realm because the problem is that he's conveying his ideas like an artist versus as a speaker.
04:04:42.000As an artist, you're afforded a lot more wiggle room with being able to articulate your thoughts than you are as an open-word speaker.
04:04:49.000Because you have to say things in a certain way on a public forum, whether it be a podcast or an interview, whatever it may be, that you're not necessarily as confined with doing music and art.
04:05:02.000Future said in a song famously, Stick Talk, I don't got no manners for no sluts.
04:05:08.000I'm going to put my thumb in her butt.
04:05:15.000Could you imagine if he said that on an interview, though?
04:05:17.000And I think that's where Kanye West needs to be able to draw that he can't use that same artistic freedom when he does interviews and podcasts because people are going to put it in a certain way, especially when he's talking about something as sensitive as anything that deals with the certain people.
04:05:33.000Now, with that said, real quick, Gonzalo, what are your thoughts?
04:05:37.000Why do you think Anyone that speaks out against this, well, not necessarily speaks out, but let's say they convey any thoughts or ideas that talk about this, right, are immediately silenced.
04:05:51.000I mean, hell, we were on Rumble talking about this because if we talked about this on YouTube, right, we'd be gone, even though everything we said is factual.
04:06:33.000And I was very explicit as to where my sources for these casualty figures were, because that's real information.
04:06:38.000I don't want it to be sounding like I'm talking out of my ass.
04:06:42.000I'm telling you, you can go to this guy and go to this news organization to get these figures, and so it's accurate.
04:06:48.000But yeah, and so I'm always careful to make that bright dividing line between stuff that I can show you and you can go check out for yourself or stuff that I have heard and you can take it or leave it as you see fit.
04:08:34.000I mean, shitloads worse before we get to the final collapse.
04:08:38.000And that final collapse is going to be, it's going to be total collapse.
04:08:43.000It's going to be a collapse of the currency, which is already happening very quickly now.
04:08:48.000And we're going to see a collapse of social order and just rioting and people are going to start banding together to protect each other and protect their property.
04:08:58.000And that's why they're going after white nationalists or so-called white nationalists because they're not white nationalists.
04:09:04.000They're just people who want to look after their shit and protect themselves because the country in the United States is still a majority white country.
04:09:12.000And so it's just the majority that wants to take care of their shit.
04:09:17.000And they have legitimate grievances that have been going on for decades now, and nobody's been addressing them.
04:09:23.000You've got to keep in mind, if you go back to Ross Perot's run for president back in 1992, He was like the proto-Trump.
04:09:29.000He articulated a lot of the problems of the working classes in the United States and how the leadership class weren't addressing them and weren't doing anything to solve the problems of working classes.
04:09:40.000And see, these problems from 92, not only have they not been addressed, they've gotten a shit ton worse in the last 30 odd years.
04:09:48.000And so, you know, you've got to understand that the people in power now, they realize that the shit show is going up in flames.
04:09:55.000And so in order to hold on to power, They are doing more and more repressive measures.
04:10:01.000And it's going to get worse, a lot worse, before it gets any better.
04:10:04.000And there are going to be a lot more people who are going to get cancelled.
04:10:07.000Look, you guys, for instance, you'll probably get cancelled at some point.
04:10:40.000I learned from Andrew Tate, right, that if you get too big with this type of mindset, you will get canceled.
04:10:45.000I mean, I say worse things than Andrew a lot of the times.
04:10:48.000I think what Andrew says is very factual and direct and to the point.
04:10:52.000And, you know, me, I might illustrate things a little bit more that might be a bit more offensive.
04:10:56.000And the fact that I'm still here and he's not just goes to show that if you get too big and you have any type of based mindset, they will cancel you.
04:11:04.000And it's, you know, I mean, he's, you know, let's talk about COVID for a second here.
04:11:09.000It literally had the world locked down, right?
04:12:14.000And so the backlash is going to be fucking fierce.
04:12:19.000And I think that on a fundamental level, perhaps these people recognize that that's in the cards and they're getting very, very nervous about it.
04:12:28.000And they're trying to start to protect themselves from the inevitable backlash.
04:12:34.000And what's interesting is that the backlash is starting with people of color.
04:12:45.000Because a lot of people of color, people of African American descent, people of Mexican American descent, Central American descent, They're noticing.
04:13:05.000And they're the ones who are starting to make noise.
04:13:08.000And interestingly enough, the majority white working classes, they can't bring themselves to this because they've been so indoctrinated over the years.
04:14:22.000Medeker, who was a big internet personality.
04:14:25.000He dropped out of the scene, but he did like a series of remarkable streams talking about this shit because he was kind of like hypochondriac.
04:14:37.000And what happened to me, I thought to myself, you know, this is going to be an incredible business opportunity, because if there is like some sort of global pandemic or something or something big like this that's happening in China, Then the supply chains are going to get seriously disrupted.
04:14:53.000So I put a lot of shorts on a number of companies.
04:14:58.000I remember very clearly, I was vacationing with my family in Switzerland.
04:15:02.000It was a Monday, February 6th, I think it was.
04:15:06.000It was the first Monday of February because we had gone to Zermatt in Switzerland.
04:15:32.000And my counterparties bought them back from me because they were so scared of the losses that they were accruing that they bought back the options Uh, at the exact bottom of the market, which for me was like the top of the market, it was because I was selling short.
04:15:46.000That meant that I was betting that the markets would go down.
04:16:26.000It was the one, you know, the best bet of my life.
04:16:30.000Because the next day, the market started shooting up because the Federal Reserve started pumping money into the markets to keep the whole thing afloat, okay?
04:16:38.000So it was like the one, I've made two great bets in my life.
04:17:07.000Yeah, because I recognize that a lot of the tech companies would suffer drops in stock market prices because if there was a supply chain interruption, that consumer products, Apple and such, because they'd suffer supply chain issues and that would curtail their availability of product and this would bring down their stock prices precipitously.
04:17:29.000And it was just blind luck because I made the right bet Based on incorrect information, okay?
04:17:37.000So I can't say that I was that smart because I never thought that the hysteria over COVID would get that bad.
04:17:43.000What did you anticipate would happen when it was going down?
04:18:21.000Very early March or perhaps the last day of February, I forget.
04:18:26.000But anyway, the point is I was on a plane and some policemen, Polish policemen, because the plane went from Kharkov to Warsaw and then I took a connecting flight from Warsaw to Amsterdam.
04:18:39.000And I'm in the plane in Warsaw and these Polish policemen come with that gun to measure your temperature.
04:18:46.000And they started measuring everybody's temperature.
04:22:10.000And then in December, when I heard about the warp speed program and the jab, and I'm like, wait a second, you're telling me that in nine months or less, they came up with this medication, right?
04:24:58.000The lab animals, the little chimpanzees and shit, they would die from the shit.
04:25:03.000That's why the technology was never implemented.
04:25:07.000In any medication until this fucking thing.
04:25:10.000And then there's the other factor too that a lot of these pharmaceutical companies, their patents on other medications were running out and they needed to come up with some drug where they could make a lot of money because the patents were running out and they'd become widely available and they wouldn't have any money making drugs.
04:25:29.000And so they hit on mRNA, which are designer drugs that they can modify a little bit and hold on to the patent, essentially indefinitely.
04:25:37.000And so that's why they were getting into the mRNA technology as a money play.
04:25:44.000Long-term testing or anything like that.
04:25:46.000And you start looking at the data and you start realizing all the corners that they cut insofar as they're testing and FDA approval and such.
04:25:56.000And also, the other thing that clued me the fuck in was when they said that the pharmaceutical companies would not be liable for damages from using the medication.
04:26:14.000I mean, it's incredible how they were able to basically trap people in their homes for the better part of two years.
04:26:21.000You look at places like Toronto, Canada especially, Melbourne, Australia, California, Portland, Oregon, pretty much anywhere that's super liberal and woke was stuck inside for a large amount of time because of COVID,
04:26:53.000Is anything safe or some foreign country safe or some shit like that?
04:26:57.000We're so conservative insofar as safety, okay?
04:27:01.000And so what happens is that we are unwilling to accept that when our environment changes for whatever reason, a certain number of people are going to die.
04:27:31.000Well, unfortunately, that's part of life, of evolution.
04:27:34.000Because we human beings, we are the descendants of all the people who survived the various maladies that our species has endured over the millennia.
04:28:09.000There are probably diseases that we have no idea about that happened 20, 30, 40, 50,000 years ago that wiped off most people or a big chunk of people.
04:28:20.000And the ones who survived, us, we are the descendants of those survivors.
04:28:55.000Because we always want to save everybody.
04:28:58.000We always want to make sure that everybody survives.
04:29:01.000But it's just a part of life, you know?
04:29:04.000And so anyway, about the malady, you know, like I said, in April of 2020, I realized it was bullshit because the homeless people and the junkies in Amsterdam weren't dropping dead like flies.
04:29:16.000And, you know, after that, I've come to the conclusion.
04:29:20.000And also, when they had those Black Lives Matter rallies in Hollywood Boulevard, right?
04:29:26.000You know, thousands and thousands of people.
04:29:28.000And they're saying, yeah, you can't visit granny at the hospice where she's dying.
04:29:34.000Yeah, you can go and protest Black Lives Matter.
04:30:09.000I was going to say, all these fucking people, they had the protocols to what to do during a pandemic, and you know what the protocol basically amounted to?
04:30:17.000Just let it burn through the populace.
04:30:19.000And the people who are going to suffer, we're going to try to comfort them as best we can, but it's just going to burn through the population because there's nothing essentially that you can do.
04:30:28.000And all this lockdowns and all this shit was just a way for politicians to pretend to be doing something.
04:30:34.000And at the same time, also, we have to look at the political dimension.
04:30:37.000The United States went into hysterics over this shit.
04:30:42.000The Democratic Party did, because they wanted to torpedo Trump's economy.
04:30:47.000Because they were starting 2020, and it seemed that he was going to be a shoo-in to win re-election.
04:30:52.000And so by doing this lockdown, torpedoing the economy, They can ensure that Trump wouldn't be re-elected.
04:32:07.000I mean, look, I didn't have anything better to do on my morning, and I thought we'd go for a couple of hours, but for the half fucking hours, man.
04:32:45.000And, guys, I'll bring Gonzalo on more periodically so you guys can get updates on what's going on and get a more base take from...
04:32:52.000This is basically like the base, you know, uncle that you guys probably don't have.
04:32:58.000Bring me on with other guests because, you know, I mean, I think it might be boring for your audience if they have to look at my ugly mug for the whole show.
04:33:05.000So it'd be fun to be with other people too, yeah.
04:33:21.000I mean, I know you usually have your female guests with your male guests all in studio, but I'd love to be on a show with some of those girls, you know?
04:33:31.000Because I'd love to hear the bullshit that they believe.
04:34:07.000I have this shitty ass computer, which I shouldn't say I'm actually stroking it gently because this thing is my only lifeline to the outside world.
04:35:21.000I slept the whole day because I knew this interview was going to be lit and we're going to have some really good conversation for the people.