Fresh & Fit - May 10, 2023


What Is A High Value Man? HEATED Debate w-F&F, Destiny, Sneako & RolloTomassi ​


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 20 minutes

Words per Minute

231.36057

Word Count

32,564

Sentence Count

3,111

Misogynist Sentences

241

Hate Speech Sentences

186


Summary

On today's episode of the Fresh Fit Podcast, we have two special guests in the house, Destiny and Squeen! We talk about everything from Destiny's childhood, to his time growing up in a Mafia family, to why women deserve less, and much, much more. You won't want to miss it! Subscribe to the FreshFit Podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever else you get your podcasts. Subscribe, Like, and Share to stay up to date on all things FreshFit and everything else going on in the world of fitness, nutrition, and life in general. Peace, Blessings, Cheers, and Cheers. Cheers Fresh Fit Family. - Cheers from The FreshFit Crew. If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and leave us a rating and review on iTunes, and tell a friend about what you think of the show! You can also join our FB group: and the FB group "The FreshFit Family". Thanks for listening and Happy Holidays! - The Fresh Fit Crew. Cheers! Cheers - The F.I.A.R.K. Crew! (featuring: Destiny, Squeena, and Sneaken) Thank you so much for being a part of the team! XOXO! xoxo, Niko, Nick, Destiny, & Squeeen - Nick ( ) Subscribe and Share this episode of The Freshfit Podcast. Thank you for listening to the podcast! Love ya'll, Nicky, Nick and Nicky! Take care of the podcast? xxx Xoxo & Nicky Love you all the podcast, <3 - Nicky and the crew, Cheep . Cheep, , Cheepee :) - Cheep - , , and Cheep! - , Nicky & the Crew ~ - - Ollie, - Squeep - EJ, & EJ ( ) - OJ, EJ AND EJ & OJ ( - JUY ( , EJ - ( ) - RY ( ) . , & JB ( ) Thank you! , JUICY - MALAY ( CHEEP


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Guys, welcome to the Fresh Fit Podcast.
00:00:01.000 We're here with two special guests, Destiny and Sneak On.
00:00:03.000 You already know it's about to be an argument.
00:00:04.000 Let's get into it.
00:00:04.000 Let's go!
00:00:55.000 We are back, guys.
00:00:56.000 What's up, guys?
00:00:57.000 Well, it's a Fresh Fit Podcast regular edition.
00:00:59.000 It's a quick announcement before we get into the show because we've got two special guests in the house.
00:01:02.000 Rumble.com slash Fresh Fit Guys.
00:01:03.000 We're on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and Rumble, as you guys already know.
00:01:07.000 So we're everywhere right now.
00:01:09.000 Well, except for Twitch because these guys are banned.
00:01:11.000 So check us out on...
00:01:13.000 Romo.com slash FreshFit.
00:01:14.000 Also, FreshFit.locals.com.
00:01:16.000 Guys, check us out over there as well if you want to go ahead and get some of the behind-the-scenes stuff.
00:01:19.000 And we're also on Megaphone if you want to get the audio version of the podcast.
00:01:22.000 Just make sure you wear headphones so you don't get fired at your job.
00:01:26.000 Why is this?
00:01:27.000 Oh, I can't say that word.
00:01:27.000 Why is he trying to hold my hand?
00:01:28.000 I don't know.
00:01:29.000 What the heck?
00:01:30.000 He doesn't earn this.
00:01:31.000 I can do this.
00:01:32.000 He didn't earn this.
00:01:33.000 You got blocked.
00:01:34.000 He did block me.
00:01:35.000 What's up?
00:01:36.000 It's not a very alpha move.
00:01:38.000 Blocking?
00:01:38.000 Yeah.
00:01:39.000 That makes complete sense if you're just being, oh, look at you.
00:01:41.000 I'm going to make fun of your dad's story by making my own dad's story.
00:01:45.000 Please give me attention.
00:01:46.000 I gotta ask, do you really think his dad's stories are real?
00:01:49.000 100%.
00:01:49.000 That he came home from school and found his dad in the lotus position playing chess against himself?
00:01:53.000 I 100% believe that.
00:01:54.000 If you've seen, like, the way that they respect his dad in his house, they have posters everywhere.
00:01:58.000 They have a giant credit card thing.
00:01:59.000 Can I make it through this, goddammit, already?
00:02:00.000 Oh, follow us on Megaphone.
00:02:02.000 You're going to get canceled at work.
00:02:03.000 We heard this a million times.
00:02:04.000 Buy the merch, whatever.
00:02:05.000 Hey, hey, hey.
00:02:06.000 Let me finish my goddamn ritual, all right?
00:02:09.000 If we're on Rumble, I'd be saying some other...
00:02:11.000 Well, Rumble only.
00:02:12.000 All right, FreshFitPodcast.com.
00:02:13.000 Get the merch over there.
00:02:14.000 Also, check out our other YouTube channel, guys, FreshFit Clips.
00:02:16.000 We post six clips, ten shorts per day.
00:02:18.000 And then also, check out more FreshFit Clips and Fresh's Vlog channel.
00:02:22.000 FreshFit Vlogs and Funny Shorts.
00:02:23.000 Go check it out.
00:02:24.000 And then Fed1811, guys, to get the true crime breakdown.
00:02:29.000 I'm going to be dropping the Genovese crime family tomorrow.
00:02:31.000 So you guys know I'm doing a mafia series.
00:02:33.000 And the last episode I did was the pizza bomber back in 2003.
00:02:36.000 It was like some sauce shit.
00:02:37.000 They put a thing on his neck and made him go rob a bank with instructions.
00:02:40.000 So go check that one out if you guys like true crime stuff.
00:02:43.000 And also go get my book, Why Women Deserve Less.
00:02:45.000 We got it on Audible, paperback, hardcover, and all.
00:02:49.000 It's only 86 pages.
00:02:50.000 Women deserve less.
00:02:51.000 I just gave it to Salim, because Salim, he calls me a lot about girl problems.
00:02:55.000 He talks to you about stuff like this, too.
00:02:56.000 I'm like, bro, you really need to read this book.
00:02:58.000 And he read some pages of The Beach.
00:02:59.000 And his attention span is terrible, but he was actually starting to pay attention.
00:03:02.000 I think he's going to finish it.
00:03:03.000 Yeah, man.
00:03:03.000 I mean, that's why I made it short, because it's targeted towards younger people.
00:03:06.000 Yeah, retards, yeah.
00:03:08.000 No, no, no, no.
00:03:09.000 Well, it's towards younger people, because younger people don't like to read.
00:03:11.000 Yeah, the shorts.
00:03:13.000 Yeah, and then it's also on Audible if y'all wanted to, but...
00:03:16.000 All right, cool, so...
00:03:17.000 Why don't you do an audiobook of it, have you?
00:03:19.000 Yeah, it's out.
00:03:20.000 An audiobook?
00:03:21.000 Yeah, and I narrated it as well.
00:03:22.000 Beautiful.
00:03:23.000 And there is an Easter egg in there.
00:03:25.000 If you let microwaves, you might hear it.
00:03:26.000 All right, moving on, smartly.
00:03:29.000 I want you to voice your own book.
00:03:31.000 I will!
00:03:33.000 I'm not perfect!
00:03:34.000 No, no, no.
00:03:34.000 Network, bro!
00:03:35.000 I'm not perfect!
00:03:36.000 I'll get it done, though.
00:03:37.000 Alright.
00:03:38.000 Yo, let me know who you guys are, but welcome to the goddamn show.
00:03:41.000 I see you guys all the time, but yeah, go ahead and introduce yourselves.
00:03:46.000 Welcome back.
00:03:47.000 No, go ahead.
00:03:48.000 Ladies first show.
00:03:49.000 Yeah, that's you.
00:03:50.000 Robo.com slash Nico.
00:03:52.000 Make sure to follow.
00:03:53.000 I'm doing pretty well over there, Ben, on most things.
00:03:55.000 You guys already know.
00:03:56.000 It's going to be back, and I look forward to this debate today.
00:03:59.000 I just had a long vasectomy surgery.
00:04:00.000 I'm a little bit sore, a little bit tired.
00:04:02.000 I can't stand properly, but I snipped up, and I'm ready to be a high-value man.
00:04:05.000 Where's your approval here?
00:04:07.000 It's coming tomorrow.
00:04:08.000 Got it.
00:04:09.000 Also, creativitykit.com.
00:04:11.000 The second one is out now, right?
00:04:13.000 The 2.0.
00:04:15.000 What's the difference between the 2.0 and the 1.0?
00:04:16.000 It's way better.
00:04:17.000 New professors, the structure's better, and people are happier with it.
00:04:22.000 The first one was a little bit of a mess.
00:04:24.000 It was more childish, but this one we have, it's more professional.
00:04:27.000 You have exclusive meetups.
00:04:28.000 I see on the Twitter videos, you hang out with your dudes sometimes, right?
00:04:31.000 Yeah, we're doing a meetup in Miami soon.
00:04:33.000 Actually, people have been doing meetups in the Creativity Kit on their own.
00:04:36.000 They've set up their own dinners and stuff like that without even me controlling it.
00:04:39.000 It's been cool to see people find like-minded individuals because the number one bonus about that is the fact that a lot of people in their hometown, they just have a bunch of losers and they just kind of bring each other down.
00:04:50.000 They're not really progressing.
00:04:51.000 So you need to go find people online that have similar ideas.
00:04:54.000 And it's hard to find that immediately if you don't have clout.
00:04:57.000 I think groups like this are really helpful for those people.
00:05:00.000 What is the cost in that?
00:05:02.000 Creativity Kit 2.0.
00:05:03.000 Same price.
00:05:04.000 What is that?
00:05:05.000 $50 a month.
00:05:06.000 Less than a cup of coffee a day.
00:05:10.000 I'm at youtube.com slash destiny.
00:05:11.000 I don't have a creativity kit yet, but I'm working on it.
00:05:14.000 You should speak in it.
00:05:15.000 They would like to hear from you.
00:05:16.000 And yeah, anytime.
00:05:17.000 Invite me over.
00:05:17.000 Instagram.com slash destiny as well.
00:05:19.000 Yeah.
00:05:20.000 That's it.
00:05:21.000 That's all I got for now.
00:05:22.000 Okay.
00:05:23.000 Lovely.
00:05:24.000 Okay.
00:05:24.000 Y'all rush us through that just to say that.
00:05:26.000 Okay.
00:05:26.000 Fantastic.
00:05:27.000 Okay.
00:05:27.000 Well, to get into the debate, it said, oh, the megaphone, plug, plug, plug.
00:05:30.000 Whatever.
00:05:31.000 They already know us, right?
00:05:32.000 Do we really need to say the links and stuff?
00:05:33.000 I just got to say one thing, though, real quick, just so you know.
00:05:35.000 What?
00:05:36.000 The CEO network is better than Creativity Kit.
00:05:38.000 Oh, God.
00:05:39.000 What's the CEO network?
00:05:40.000 CEO network.
00:05:41.000 CEO. Well, they're different.
00:05:42.000 They're not for the same.
00:05:44.000 I'm messing with you.
00:05:44.000 Okay.
00:05:45.000 Okay.
00:05:45.000 Do you guys have like your own thing?
00:05:46.000 Is that what you guys have?
00:05:46.000 I've spoken to CEO Network.
00:05:48.000 It's just like his freshest private network.
00:05:49.000 People come and...
00:05:50.000 How much do they charge a month?
00:05:52.000 200.
00:05:53.000 Damn.
00:05:53.000 So 50 a month.
00:05:55.000 Sneeko speaks in your guys' shit and his shit.
00:05:58.000 One-fourth the price.
00:05:59.000 I know.
00:06:00.000 Damn.
00:06:00.000 Sell your shit.
00:06:01.000 Why is it four times more?
00:06:02.000 We're more value here, though.
00:06:03.000 Yeah?
00:06:03.000 Is it?
00:06:03.000 Okay.
00:06:04.000 Yeah.
00:06:04.000 Incredible.
00:06:04.000 Okay.
00:06:05.000 Damn.
00:06:05.000 I heard he knew where this is going.
00:06:07.000 Alright.
00:06:07.000 Alright, let me go ahead and hit the chats real quick, and then we'll get into the topic, because we've got a couple things we're going to cover on today's show, guys.
00:06:13.000 Okay, Jared Choi, thank you so much.
00:06:14.000 Shout out to the Genghis Khan, I think it means Genghis Khan, bloodline.
00:06:18.000 Okay, shout out to you.
00:06:19.000 We got Aman goes 50k a year in religious family or 300k with no family, GP versus RP. What's the GP? I don't know.
00:06:28.000 Grandfather pill?
00:06:29.000 What the fuck?
00:06:30.000 Crentis the Dentist.
00:06:31.000 Free guys, a free pal sign.
00:06:33.000 Cool.
00:06:34.000 Paginator goes, hope y'all have a great debation tonight, them boys.
00:06:39.000 I looked it up.
00:06:40.000 Happy wife, happy life should be replaced with happy king, happy kingdom by MLD. I agree.
00:06:45.000 I agree.
00:06:46.000 Marriage cause divorce.
00:06:47.000 Does destiny have a prenup?
00:06:48.000 If not, rest in peace.
00:06:52.000 She came on my stream, and she was talking about how broke she is, and then she went to Hawaii, and then some guy took her money and stuff like that, and she was talking about how broke she was.
00:07:00.000 Well, right now, the brokenness has to do with dealing with Swedish taxes, which will break anybody, but we're working on navigating through that situation.
00:07:07.000 So you don't have a prenup, basically?
00:07:08.000 Not yet.
00:07:10.000 Not yet.
00:07:10.000 You can have one.
00:07:11.000 Do it, bro!
00:07:16.000 10 years later, after my divorce, I'll be joining you guys.
00:07:19.000 On more serious topics, though, actually, I do want to say, because like I said, Rip, I'll give a shout out to Donovan.
00:07:27.000 I think you got the, is it the Debatacron version of COVID-19?
00:07:32.000 The one where anytime you got a debate coming up, you get sick, so...
00:07:34.000 Everybody pray for that guy.
00:07:37.000 That is very funny.
00:07:38.000 Jedediah said that all the Red Pill guys who are like in their 40s and 50s, they refuse to debate you.
00:07:43.000 I'm like, why?
00:07:43.000 Why are you guys so afraid?
00:07:45.000 Most of the people who you're like, oh, this guy knows everything.
00:07:47.000 He wrote a book.
00:07:48.000 They won't even debate.
00:07:49.000 They won't sit down and talk to you.
00:07:50.000 I'm like, why?
00:07:52.000 He is sick, though.
00:07:54.000 No, it's not just him.
00:07:55.000 There's like four or five people in the red pill space that just actually refuse to sit down and talk to him.
00:08:00.000 Oh, shit.
00:08:01.000 Okay.
00:08:01.000 Are we the only ones that talk to Destiny?
00:08:04.000 Yes!
00:08:05.000 They're all afraid.
00:08:05.000 Destiny knows who I'm talking about.
00:08:07.000 I'm like, come on, seriously?
00:08:08.000 If you guys really hold your ideas that true to your heart, you should be able to have them challenged.
00:08:12.000 You should be able to go and discuss them.
00:08:13.000 Would it be way more fun, though, to just sit in front of a bunch of 22-year-old chicks and just shoot them all day?
00:08:17.000 Wouldn't that be more fun?
00:08:18.000 Easier?
00:08:19.000 Maybe?
00:08:19.000 Yeah?
00:08:19.000 Yeah, but that's when it becomes this bitter place where it's like, bro, you're like 50 just talking to 20-year-old girls from college right now.
00:08:24.000 Oh, so there's a 50-year-old person.
00:08:26.000 Huh?
00:08:26.000 No, I'm agreeing with you.
00:08:27.000 I'm like, that's...
00:08:28.000 At least talk to people of...
00:08:31.000 I did see one great debate between Marquette and yourself.
00:08:34.000 Who's Marquette?
00:08:35.000 The Saint of Sinner.
00:08:36.000 Oh, my God.
00:08:37.000 Oh, he got destroyed, man.
00:08:37.000 Do you guys like these guys back there, or are you guys enemies back there?
00:08:39.000 No, he got destroyed.
00:08:40.000 He's a front horse.
00:08:41.000 Oh, shit.
00:08:42.000 Okay.
00:08:42.000 I can't even lie.
00:08:43.000 Like, Destiny did destroy him.
00:08:44.000 It's not the fact that I agree with what he's saying, but it's just, that was bad.
00:08:47.000 I like sneak on.
00:08:49.000 I said that as Redbill knew it.
00:08:51.000 I'm like, bro, this is brutal right now because they always try to go extremely personal.
00:08:56.000 Fair enough.
00:08:57.000 Okay.
00:08:58.000 We got here.
00:08:59.000 They love Brandon.
00:09:00.000 And then from this point forward, we already got 10,000 of y'all in here, man.
00:09:02.000 We're going to go 20 plus and up.
00:09:06.000 We'll show every single chat on the screen.
00:09:09.000 Myron 304, panel L, Myron L, Fresh, L, Chris, W, Big Mo.
00:09:12.000 Yes, sir.
00:09:13.000 Yes, sir!
00:09:13.000 Okay.
00:09:14.000 What else do we got here?
00:09:16.000 Tombstone, sneak up, beloved husband, Destiny, blue hair, and shared my wife with another man.
00:09:20.000 Okay, fantastic.
00:09:20.000 What the fuck?
00:09:23.000 And then he said, Destiny, prenup, and then what do we got here?
00:09:27.000 Eric Johnson, from the bottom of my heart, I want to say thanks, FNF, especially, Myron.
00:09:30.000 You have given back to me what I lost in a 10-year relationship.
00:09:34.000 You are the father I never had.
00:09:35.000 Authority, confidence, self-respect, return.
00:09:37.000 Relationship with women restored.
00:09:38.000 All right, man, great to hear that, bro.
00:09:40.000 I appreciate that greatly.
00:09:41.000 When Big Act coming back would be cool.
00:09:43.000 Destiny and AK. That would be great to see.
00:09:45.000 Dude, I fucking love...
00:09:47.000 He likes watching your content, too.
00:09:49.000 Yeah, I watch his shit, too.
00:09:50.000 Bro, did you catch the shit where he was talking about his...
00:09:53.000 Is it his ex, or are they still dating?
00:09:56.000 Selena Powell?
00:09:56.000 I don't know.
00:09:57.000 Listen, man...
00:09:58.000 Dude, when he was telling that story...
00:10:01.000 She faked getting an abortion, right?
00:10:04.000 She faked taking a plan B, okay?
00:10:06.000 And so, they resolved their differences.
00:10:08.000 There's so much drama to this.
00:10:09.000 And then, like, I think a week later, after they'd figured everything out, she caught him fucking around again.
00:10:14.000 And then she said, I didn't actually get the abortion, motherfucker.
00:10:16.000 I tricked you because I knew you'd do this shit again.
00:10:18.000 Dude, that whole story is the funniest fucking shit.
00:10:20.000 I love DJ Academics.
00:10:22.000 I told him from day one, she needs to go.
00:10:24.000 But I get it.
00:10:25.000 You know, there's some love there that can't be shaken or stirred.
00:10:29.000 I wish him the best, you know?
00:10:30.000 I love DJ because he's flawed as fuck, but he knows it.
00:10:33.000 He's like, yeah, I fuck around, I fuck up.
00:10:36.000 That's funny.
00:10:36.000 I like the guy.
00:10:37.000 At least he owns it, but I mean, that could have been avoided, though.
00:10:40.000 And new Rumblers, isn't it pretty surprising you guys are all on Rumble, the fact that there's no press coverage of that?
00:10:45.000 Jadeon's on Rumble, Academix on Rumble, you guys, that's like, why do they not talk about that?
00:10:48.000 They're talking about Kick Kick all the time.
00:10:49.000 The only streamer on Kick is Aiden.
00:10:51.000 And non-stop, they're all obsessed about it, but Rumble's getting so many big streamers and you don't see any coverage.
00:10:56.000 But who owns Kick?
00:10:58.000 Yeah, Amazon.
00:10:59.000 Hold on, that's not true.
00:11:01.000 Well, it's hosted on Amazon Web Service.
00:11:03.000 But it's Stake, right?
00:11:04.000 Well, no, they rent space from Amazon servers.
00:11:08.000 But if part of my site is hosted on AWS, I'm not part of Amazon.
00:11:11.000 The reason why Kick gets more coverage is because Kick has mirrored itself as a partner site almost to Twitch.
00:11:17.000 They're trying to copy the culture, they're trying to get the streamers out of it.
00:11:19.000 Rumble is like its own thing on an island, so people don't think about it or talk about it as much.
00:11:23.000 And it promotes free speech, basically.
00:11:25.000 I mean, Kick definitely does, too.
00:11:28.000 They do, but for now.
00:11:30.000 Well, but that's everybody is for now.
00:11:32.000 That's how it always works.
00:11:33.000 You okay?
00:11:33.000 Are we good now?
00:11:34.000 No, the camera's out of focus.
00:11:35.000 But even independent journalists, like all the Twitter people, like Dick Zerto, Keemstar, I think he might, but most people, they don't, the Twitter accounts, they just talk about Kick and they speculate who's going over there.
00:11:45.000 Patrick Cici, all these people, they never mention Rumble.
00:11:48.000 But that's because if you look at the kick acquisitions, the talent acquisition is all from Twitch, which is what everybody's talking about, right?
00:11:54.000 Like, JDM was already banned on Twitch.
00:11:55.000 I feel like, I could be wrong, but I feel like YouTubers don't get the same type of media attention as, like, Twitch streamers do.
00:12:01.000 Academics are Twitch streamers.
00:12:03.000 Academic's not a Twitch streamer.
00:12:05.000 Really big on Twitch.
00:12:05.000 No, no, but he's known as a YouTuber, though.
00:12:07.000 Yeah, and in, like, the hip-hop scene and everything.
00:12:09.000 I didn't even know he streamed on Twitch.
00:12:11.000 He's known for that more than Twitch.
00:12:13.000 And he did get, didn't he get, like, was it a Rolling Stones article where they said he was running a far-right site or whatever?
00:12:18.000 Yeah, they said he's a white supremacist.
00:12:19.000 Twitch is, like, private for people that love him.
00:12:22.000 That's where they go.
00:12:23.000 Everyone goes to YouTube for his commentary.
00:12:24.000 So if you get labeled as a YouTuber, then they're not going to give press.
00:12:28.000 We just don't think about YouTubers as much for some reason.
00:12:30.000 Because Dexardo and all these sites came up all covering Twitch streamers.
00:12:34.000 So whenever a Twitch streamer goes to Kik, it's a big deal.
00:12:36.000 But if a Twitch streamer went to Rumble, it'd be a big deal.
00:12:38.000 But all the Twitch streamers are fighting between Twitch and Kik right now.
00:12:40.000 Rumble is like its own thing recruiting from outside that ecosystem, I think.
00:12:44.000 How many Twitch streamers, besides me, well I'm not even because I got banned, how many Twitch streamers have gone to Rumble?
00:12:48.000 Not a lot.
00:12:49.000 But for Kick, like, Aiden is huge.
00:12:51.000 I mean, I could argue that Judeon and academics and all these people are, but I'm just surprised that...
00:12:55.000 Well, I'm basically trying to say that there's a media push against Rumble.
00:12:57.000 They're very anti-Rumble.
00:12:58.000 Even, like, when academic signs, they say white supremacists.
00:13:00.000 When I take a picture with Trump, they say white supremacist ally takes a picture, like, Rumble streamer now, canceled streamer.
00:13:05.000 It's labeled...
00:13:06.000 The narrative that they're really trying hard to label Rumble as is this conspiracy right-wing site.
00:13:11.000 Instead of actually talking about the fact that it's free speech and none of these sites are actually free speech, they really want to box it in and promote Kick.
00:13:17.000 They got some crazy liberal people over there too, but they don't publicize that for obvious reasons.
00:13:20.000 Russell Brand and Destiny?
00:13:22.000 Rumble does.
00:13:24.000 He's not even crazy liberal.
00:13:26.000 He's crazy.
00:13:29.000 But you would like him.
00:13:31.000 My point is that Rumble, regardless of what side you stand on, they protect the free speech, which is what's good.
00:13:37.000 Yeah, but they don't care about that.
00:13:39.000 Well, obviously they don't care about that.
00:13:42.000 But even the independent journalists.
00:13:43.000 Yeah, but I don't even think they pretend to care about that anymore.
00:13:45.000 Like the free speech stuff.
00:13:46.000 Like they're pretty big on the we should censor bad stuff that is going to hurt a lot of people or whatever.
00:13:50.000 Like they're full on on that.
00:13:51.000 No one's going to pretend that like, oh yeah, we care about free speech at YouTube.
00:13:54.000 YouTube doesn't care about that anymore.
00:13:55.000 Journalists don't care about that anymore.
00:13:57.000 But I will say Rumble does, they nurture relationships with people that they bring on.
00:14:01.000 And that's very important because you could give people money, but you really mess with a person individually, that goes a long way on Rumble.
00:14:07.000 Maybe, yeah.
00:14:08.000 So...
00:14:09.000 Alright, where are we at here?
00:14:11.000 Yo, cameras need to be adjusted to a ghost exposure.
00:14:14.000 My guy, Destiny, is translucent right now.
00:14:16.000 Okay.
00:14:18.000 It's out of focus sometimes.
00:14:19.000 The one that's on you guys?
00:14:21.000 Pale is a fucking ghost.
00:14:22.000 Do you fix him?
00:14:23.000 It's going in and out of focus.
00:14:24.000 It's been good now.
00:14:25.000 It's been good.
00:14:26.000 Okay.
00:14:26.000 Myron already fixed it.
00:14:27.000 Okay.
00:14:28.000 Destiny might be chosen one if he can bridge the gap between the delusional motherfuckers to reality, rooting for a promising future as well.
00:14:33.000 Okay.
00:14:33.000 Rensler goes men.
00:14:35.000 Okay.
00:14:35.000 James, he goes any chance of getting Alex Hermozzi on the podcast?
00:14:40.000 Yeah, guys, reach out to him and tell him to hit us up, man.
00:14:43.000 I don't have his contact info.
00:14:45.000 I met him in Vegas, but...
00:14:46.000 Yeah.
00:14:47.000 Yeah.
00:14:48.000 Mariner Fresh, please protect your podcast.
00:14:50.000 A lot of people are copying you guys.
00:14:51.000 It's corny at this point.
00:14:52.000 Oh, no.
00:14:53.000 Bro, we can't stop it, bro.
00:14:54.000 It is what it is, bro.
00:14:54.000 It is what it is, man.
00:14:55.000 Destiny Fresh Fist Sneak on my birthday.
00:14:57.000 Couldn't ask for better.
00:14:57.000 Let's get it.
00:14:58.000 Happy birthday, man.
00:14:58.000 Happy birthday, my friend.
00:14:59.000 I have a nine-to-five job, but wants to invest in rental property.
00:15:02.000 What book do you suggest I read?
00:15:03.000 Go ahead and get Rich Dad Poor Dad.
00:15:04.000 Set for life.
00:15:05.000 And then them boys, cha-ching.
00:15:06.000 What new belief does Sneako have today?
00:15:08.000 Okay.
00:15:11.000 Do I really switch beliefs that much?
00:15:14.000 I've been talking about Islam for like a year straight.
00:15:16.000 He tweeted about it like seven years ago.
00:15:19.000 Imagine a leaf blowing in the wind.
00:15:22.000 Wherever the wind blows, the leaf goes.
00:15:23.000 That is you, my friend.
00:15:24.000 Okay, what ideologies have I latched onto besides...
00:15:28.000 Bro.
00:15:28.000 When anti-feminist and I was talking about religion for about a year and then I find a religion that I agree with and that makes sense to me logically and then I convert.
00:15:36.000 Where is like, people say like, oh, he's always flip-flopping.
00:15:39.000 Where else have I flip-flop?
00:15:40.000 If you notice, right?
00:15:41.000 Quick, specific question.
00:15:43.000 I'm going into this.
00:15:44.000 How did you start coming into this space?
00:15:46.000 Red pill rage.
00:15:48.000 Then you move from that to...
00:15:50.000 What's next?
00:15:50.000 Okay, now I'm enlightened.
00:15:51.000 I'm not as angry anymore.
00:15:52.000 Then you move from that to religion.
00:15:54.000 Religion to other stuff.
00:15:55.000 I'm just saying...
00:15:56.000 That seems like a pretty clear trajectory.
00:15:58.000 Isn't that a natural progression?
00:15:59.000 I actually remember you guys saying it.
00:16:01.000 He's in his red pill rage right now.
00:16:02.000 You go through that and then you go to the next thing.
00:16:04.000 You can't do red pill rage for 30 years.
00:16:06.000 At the same time, you're standing on a point so hard that it looks weird because now it's like, okay, cool.
00:16:11.000 He said this, but now he's saying this.
00:16:13.000 So it looks really weird.
00:16:15.000 Growth is weird?
00:16:16.000 No, no, because you're like, this is how it is.
00:16:18.000 Oh, no, no, tomorrow, this is how it is.
00:16:20.000 But what have I changed my opinion on specifically?
00:16:23.000 Like, people keep saying that, like, what opinions have I changed?
00:16:25.000 I've always said that kids are the most important part of being alive.
00:16:29.000 Always said that.
00:16:30.000 Always?
00:16:30.000 I've always said that family is the most important thing.
00:16:32.000 At the very beginning?
00:16:33.000 Yes.
00:16:34.000 Yes.
00:16:34.000 I never said any...
00:16:36.000 I can't...
00:16:37.000 Like, if you could tell me specifically where I've changed my...
00:16:39.000 Of course, like, I have a different philosophy for life.
00:16:41.000 I have a more clear set of what I think the world should be governed by.
00:16:44.000 But, like, what have I changed my opinion on?
00:16:46.000 When I met you, you weren't focused on kids.
00:16:47.000 You were focused on smashing girls.
00:16:49.000 So I don't know what...
00:16:50.000 Well, hey, excuse me.
00:16:51.000 How do you get kids?
00:16:52.000 No, no, no.
00:16:53.000 But no kids were involved in this.
00:16:55.000 Only Plan Bs.
00:16:57.000 That's what you think.
00:16:58.000 Yeah, I mean, I met you like when I was like 21.
00:17:00.000 Yeah.
00:17:01.000 Something like that.
00:17:01.000 Yeah, you grow, you mature.
00:17:03.000 Has it really been three years?
00:17:04.000 Or I was 22.
00:17:06.000 22.
00:17:06.000 I was 22.
00:17:07.000 Either way, I'm just saying, it looks like you say one thing, but then come past and you're like, on this way.
00:17:13.000 Oh, but what have I changed my opinion on?
00:17:15.000 You're not telling me.
00:17:17.000 So we brought up the argument about Rolo's tweet, right?
00:17:20.000 Oh, God.
00:17:21.000 Right?
00:17:22.000 You know what?
00:17:22.000 Let's get into this.
00:17:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:17:25.000 I'll come back to you.
00:17:26.000 I think he's fucking up the show.
00:17:27.000 I'm trying to get into something.
00:17:29.000 Okay, okay, okay, okay.
00:17:30.000 I wanted to cover the Trump thing.
00:17:31.000 Then you guys can go ahead and argue.
00:17:32.000 All right?
00:17:33.000 Anonymous podcast.
00:17:34.000 How is Nico a Tradcon when his girlfriend Kuro is on OF selling for $99?
00:17:37.000 When did I say that?
00:17:38.000 I don't know who's my girlfriend.
00:17:39.000 I don't know who that is.
00:17:41.000 I don't know.
00:17:41.000 I don't know who that is.
00:17:43.000 Zina the Witch, some heart emoji.
00:17:44.000 Shout out to you, Zina.
00:17:45.000 And then we got here, how do you define a 304?
00:17:48.000 All I think is when she sleeps with a guy and without feeling emotional attachment, all girls are 304s until proven otherwise.
00:17:53.000 Okay, SoulFist goes Destiny.
00:17:54.000 I only have just over 2K subs.
00:17:56.000 We'll love to interview.
00:17:57.000 Could that be possible?
00:17:57.000 That's from SoulFist.
00:17:59.000 Moe?
00:18:00.000 And then, I don't know.
00:18:03.000 Would you ever collab with somebody on that level?
00:18:06.000 He does.
00:18:07.000 Usually if you say something really dumb, I usually scream at you and I'm like, let's argue about it.
00:18:12.000 Silky Silco, shout out Destiny's wife's boyfriend.
00:18:15.000 Mo, what the fuck you doing, man?
00:18:17.000 Drinking off.
00:18:18.000 What the fuck?
00:18:20.000 And then, who is the blue-haired soy bucket?
00:18:24.000 Okay, fantastic.
00:18:26.000 And that's from Ross.
00:18:27.000 Oh, you're lacking, Mo.
00:18:28.000 And then, yeah, he's wondering if the panel would discuss ethics of bringing a child into the world with existential threats to humanity, like artificial general intelligence, climate change.
00:18:36.000 What a retarded point.
00:18:37.000 What a retarded liberal point.
00:18:39.000 This is what all, like, the wokeies say, like, What about climate change?
00:18:43.000 Why is that a valid reason to not have children?
00:18:47.000 Retard psyop.
00:18:48.000 That's exactly what the globalist agenda is.
00:18:50.000 They want you to believe in this garbage.
00:18:51.000 What about veganism?
00:18:53.000 That has nothing to do with having kids.
00:18:54.000 If you want to go fight the globalist agenda, have 10 kids on a farm.
00:18:58.000 Homeschool them.
00:18:59.000 Make them strong and autistic and schizo.
00:19:01.000 And then give them training lessons.
00:19:03.000 Give them some guns.
00:19:04.000 Make them really smart.
00:19:05.000 Make them outside.
00:19:06.000 Don't let them use their phones.
00:19:08.000 Don't let them on TikTok.
00:19:09.000 And then you could be able to fight back.
00:19:10.000 I don't understand.
00:19:10.000 Isn't that the most red pill advice, though?
00:19:12.000 Don't you want to have zero kids?
00:19:13.000 Because every time you have a kid, women are going to use that in the family courts against you to steal all your money or whatever.
00:19:18.000 Ten kids, that's like ten women or one woman that can get you for ten child support payments.
00:19:21.000 Maybe that guy's actually more red pill than everybody here.
00:19:24.000 What is the argument you're making now?
00:19:26.000 Don't have kids because women will child support get you.
00:19:29.000 Well, if you have a prenuptial agreement and you have certain things in place, you can mitigate the risk.
00:19:32.000 Does it not protect you from child support?
00:19:34.000 That won't.
00:19:34.000 No, no, no.
00:19:35.000 Exactly.
00:19:35.000 But then you fight to get the custody of the children.
00:19:37.000 Listen, we live in a hunter-gatherer society.
00:19:40.000 We live in a hunter-gatherer society.
00:19:41.000 Men are out here, okay, hunting and gathering, and women are just at home collecting resources.
00:19:46.000 And by resources, I mean alimony and child support.
00:19:47.000 This is true.
00:19:48.000 Be careful.
00:19:49.000 This is why you try to mitigate the custody of the children if you can.
00:19:52.000 As much as possible, yeah.
00:19:53.000 Alex Peralta, when John Stark again on pod, I heard he destroyed Destiny in the debate.
00:19:57.000 Never heard of that?
00:19:57.000 Hey, our Rest up and prayers for John Zerka.
00:20:00.000 I heard that he's sick right now.
00:20:01.000 No, he fucking lied.
00:20:02.000 He's trolling?
00:20:03.000 He's trolling?
00:20:03.000 Yes, he fucking trolled about having leukemia.
00:20:05.000 Damn, bro.
00:20:06.000 Why would you do that?
00:20:07.000 Because it's John Zerka.
00:20:08.000 I had a whole moment on my stream.
00:20:10.000 I'm like, pray for...
00:20:10.000 He fucking plays sad Naruto music in the background while he's talking about it.
00:20:14.000 That seems so genuine.
00:20:15.000 If you watch it, you would believe it.
00:20:17.000 Okay, fine.
00:20:19.000 Destiny, your wife in Fresh's DMs, you don't want to worry, Fresh.
00:20:21.000 I will take care of her professionally for a reasonable price, of course, and give her the ride of her life, respectfully.
00:20:26.000 Bro, come on, man.
00:20:27.000 Come on, bro.
00:20:28.000 I mean, put respectfully at the end, so, you know, we're good.
00:20:31.000 Bro, Destiny, what is with the hair?
00:20:33.000 Is a woman magnet?
00:20:35.000 Is it a woman magnet, basically?
00:20:36.000 Oh.
00:20:36.000 Yeah, for crazy chicks.
00:20:37.000 Okay, fantastic.
00:20:38.000 All right, so let's go ahead and hit the first topic.
00:20:41.000 So we're about 20 minutes in, guys.
00:20:42.000 So first and foremost, we got 15K, y'all watching.
00:20:45.000 Do me a favor.
00:20:45.000 Ah!
00:20:46.000 Like the video, subscribe to the channel, follow Destiny on YouTube.
00:20:48.000 Also follow Sneeko on Rumble.
00:20:50.000 Rumble.com slash Sneeko.
00:20:51.000 And then if you just search Destiny on YouTube, you're going to see it right away.
00:20:53.000 Actually, follow Destiny on Rumble.
00:20:55.000 Forget his YouTube.
00:20:55.000 Oh, yeah, you got Rumble too, right?
00:20:56.000 Fuck Rumble YouTube.
00:20:57.000 Follow me on Instagram, okay?
00:20:59.000 Instagram.
00:20:59.000 Your Instagram sucks.
00:21:01.000 Listen, that's where the girls are, okay?
00:21:03.000 And then...
00:21:03.000 Okay.
00:21:04.000 You think girls watch this?
00:21:07.000 Apparently.
00:21:08.000 Look at his page.
00:21:09.000 Alright, so pull up the Donald Trump article.
00:21:10.000 As you guys know, I want to talk about this first.
00:21:13.000 Because I saw this all over the news yesterday, and I can't believe how many people are fucking stupid, right?
00:21:18.000 I can't tell you how many dumb bimbos I saw in the comments saying like, oh my god, he's gonna go to jail finally, blah blah blah.
00:21:24.000 So as you guys know, Jerry finds Donald Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation in an E. Jean Carroll case.
00:21:32.000 And basically, long story short, guys, she made some allegations that he, you know, Sexually assaulted her back in, like, 1996 in, like, a dressing room.
00:21:39.000 How old is that, bro?
00:21:40.000 Yeah, almost 30 years, I know.
00:21:42.000 Like, what the hell?
00:21:42.000 Are there no statute of limitations for a case of divorce?
00:21:44.000 Well, typically there are statute of limitations, but this was a civil case.
00:21:48.000 And for some odd reason, people don't tend to understand that there's a difference between civil cases and criminal cases.
00:21:52.000 So in a civil case, all you need to do is prove A preponderance of the evidence, which basically amounts to 51% versus 49%.
00:21:59.000 And then you're found liable and you have to go ahead and pay money or whatever it is that the agreement has.
00:22:04.000 I think it's also interesting that the woman that sued him didn't give a monetary amount of what she wanted and damages.
00:22:09.000 She did that for a reason because she wanted a virtue signal and be like, it's genuine.
00:22:11.000 It's coming from a place of sincerity.
00:22:15.000 But the reality is this woman went ahead and made these accusations as Trump was running for office.
00:22:19.000 Again.
00:22:20.000 Right?
00:22:22.000 And this is just...
00:22:23.000 This is my thing, and I'll turn it to the panel here.
00:22:26.000 I foresee that this is going to be happening more and more where girls are going to...
00:22:30.000 If they have an agenda against you, or if you have some money, you have some status, whatever it is, they'll come years after the fact, not do a criminal case, but sue you civilly, and all they have to do is find you 51% liable, and bam, now you're on the hook for a bunch of fucking money.
00:22:42.000 Because you've got to pay this bitch $5 million now, and I find it interesting that she has two witnesses, which are...
00:22:48.000 Actually, there's zero witnesses.
00:22:49.000 It's her two friends that she confided in 30 years ago saying, oh yeah, Trump did this to me, blah, blah, blah.
00:22:54.000 And I think this is just another situation where they're trying to disqualify Trump from the presidency of 2024.
00:23:00.000 Honestly, I'll take a step further.
00:23:01.000 Let's say the agenda or them boys or even the people at the top don't like you.
00:23:06.000 They can say, hey, I'm Mary Sue.
00:23:08.000 I know you dated so-and-so back in the day.
00:23:10.000 I'll pay you to say this about him and make it real.
00:23:14.000 Awesome.
00:23:14.000 I'll take the money.
00:23:15.000 Fuck that nigga.
00:23:16.000 Boom.
00:23:17.000 Next thing you know, you got an article in the paper saying, you did this and that.
00:23:20.000 So it's crazy.
00:23:21.000 That happened to Tate.
00:23:21.000 That happened.
00:23:22.000 All the news articles started contacting his exes to try to bribe him.
00:23:25.000 Like, hey, we'll interview you for a story.
00:23:26.000 We'll give you $50,000 for this story.
00:23:28.000 But they know what the story is.
00:23:29.000 That's actually happening to me right now.
00:23:30.000 Yeah, it happened to me before, too.
00:23:32.000 But you know what's scary?
00:23:33.000 That can happen to anybody.
00:23:34.000 Look, we're all getting...
00:23:35.000 Anybody, bro!
00:23:36.000 You're getting two.
00:23:36.000 I know you're blue pill, but like even...
00:23:38.000 I would love to see evidence people offering $50,000 for stories, negative stories about tape.
00:23:42.000 Or any of these people.
00:23:43.000 Like, usually those types of offers...
00:23:45.000 They'll find ways to say it in a sly way.
00:23:47.000 But you won't see it.
00:23:48.000 It's going to be behind...
00:23:50.000 Yeah, but shit is going to leak.
00:23:51.000 Every motherfucker's got a cell phone and an email and a Discord or whatever.
00:23:55.000 Everything leaks today.
00:23:56.000 Those types of offers being made to multiple people, that shit would win millions.
00:23:59.000 You're being very trustworthy.
00:24:00.000 I'm not being trustworthy.
00:24:01.000 Just so you know, it's honestly done in person.
00:24:04.000 You'd be surprised.
00:24:06.000 Local coffee shop, guy shows up.
00:24:07.000 I'm telling you, it's very covert.
00:24:09.000 I think the main takeaway here isn't necessarily $50,000 to make a fake story, but I think the point is that this is kind of a trend where They're weaponizing SA or grape against individuals to knock them down a peg.
00:24:24.000 I think this is an example of it.
00:24:26.000 It's no coincidence that he got indicted in New York for some bullshit falsifying business charge.
00:24:31.000 Wait, how is it bullshit?
00:24:32.000 He did.
00:24:34.000 Bro.
00:24:34.000 Bro.
00:24:36.000 Okay, because I actually looked at the charges and everything.
00:24:38.000 Number one, that charge is a misdemeanor charge, typically.
00:24:41.000 Typically?
00:24:41.000 Yeah.
00:24:42.000 Nine out of ten times it's a misdemeanor charge.
00:24:44.000 They rarely bring it against people, and they brought it against him, and then they're using the felony version of it saying that, oh, because you can only hit him with the felony version of falsifying business records if it's in furtherance of another felony.
00:24:55.000 Another crime, correct.
00:24:55.000 Yeah.
00:24:56.000 Which it was.
00:24:57.000 Have they proven that yet?
00:24:58.000 I haven't heard what the other crime is.
00:25:24.000 That misdemeanor charge will get upgraded to a felony because you're lying about these business records and the commission of that FEC crime is what they're trying to hit Trump with.
00:25:30.000 Okay, but that's a federal charge though.
00:25:32.000 It's not a state charge.
00:25:34.000 Obviously, I think in New York, I think they can charge you for that.
00:25:37.000 That's a federal charge only with the voter stuff.
00:25:40.000 Because I went over this and I was like, well, hold on.
00:25:44.000 Because the feds didn't even prosecute him on that shit.
00:25:46.000 The feds decided not to, but that's because New York said they found more stuff.
00:25:49.000 I think New York said that.
00:25:50.000 So they decided to go a little bit harder on it.
00:25:52.000 Well, I mean, they've got some grounds to charge him.
00:25:54.000 Well, Adam Black campaigned under getting Trump.
00:25:57.000 That was his thing to get in as a district attorney.
00:26:01.000 I guess the case goes to court if you want, but they have the charges.
00:26:05.000 Yeah, they got the charges, but my thing is they still have not put out exactly what it is.
00:26:11.000 Because it's not the FEC thing that you're mentioning.
00:26:12.000 Because I thought that was it.
00:26:13.000 And then I was like, wait, hold on.
00:26:14.000 That's a federal charge.
00:26:15.000 That doesn't make sense.
00:26:16.000 So they still haven't done it.
00:26:18.000 And again, From what I've seen, to me it looks like they're doing everything in their power to keep him from running in 2024 because he's going to win.
00:26:24.000 He's going to win.
00:26:25.000 They want to keep Biden in office.
00:26:27.000 They want to get Kamala Harris.
00:26:28.000 There's no shot he's going to win.
00:26:30.000 You don't think he's going to win?
00:26:31.000 Trump is like actual kryptonite for the Republican Party right now.
00:26:35.000 Who's going to get it?
00:26:35.000 DeSantis?
00:26:36.000 DeSantis is probably a better candidate, but why would you run Trump against Biden when Trump already lost against Biden?
00:26:42.000 Well, what was that?
00:26:43.000 I know you can't say that.
00:26:44.000 No, no, no.
00:26:45.000 Ironically, ironically.
00:26:46.000 Ironically, what?
00:26:47.000 I genuinely think if he runs 2024, because Biden's approval ratings are so low, and obviously everything going on, he's getting exposed and all this other stuff with, you know, the Biden crime family, what's going on with Ukraine, whatever.
00:26:57.000 I think Trump has a very good chance of winning.
00:27:00.000 I don't think he's getting exposed at all right now.
00:27:01.000 I think right now the Republican Party is literally eating itself alive.
00:27:04.000 You've got Donald Trump and DeSantis, the two largest figures in the Republican Party, are like going at each other's fucking throats right now.
00:27:10.000 Yeah, they don't get along.
00:27:11.000 And then you've got all the conservative media is eating itself alive between the crazy crowder shit going on and him fighting with the Daily Wire.
00:27:17.000 You've got Tucker Carlson fired from fucking Fox News and Fox trying to find its bearings.
00:27:20.000 Like, the Republican Party is in dire straits right now.
00:27:22.000 And Trump is anything but a great unifier of people because he's contributing to that mayhem as well.
00:27:26.000 He's polarizing.
00:27:27.000 Yeah, so I just...
00:27:28.000 I mean, I'm not even trying to say I hate Trump or whatever, but running him against a candidate that he already lost to is already rough.
00:27:36.000 Did he really lose?
00:27:37.000 Well, if you believe it.
00:27:39.000 So running him against a candidate he's already lost to is going to be rough.
00:27:42.000 And then the fact that he's so polarizing in the Republican Party right now, and he didn't have a good showing for the midterms, I mean, I could try.
00:27:48.000 I mean, I welcome it, but...
00:27:50.000 You know what's funny about politics?
00:27:51.000 What?
00:27:51.000 All this whole talk here about who's going to be president, they already know.
00:27:56.000 Seriously, they already know.
00:27:58.000 But yeah, but that was my thing.
00:27:59.000 I just wanted to, because I foresee that this is going to be problematic in the future and that this is going to be continued to be used because we've seen it done with Andrew Tate.
00:28:07.000 We've seen it done with Trump.
00:28:07.000 We've seen it done with Brett Kavanaugh when he tried to become a Supreme Court justice.
00:28:11.000 Julian Assange.
00:28:11.000 Yeah, Julian Assange.
00:28:13.000 Like, they weaponize women to say that this individual is involved in some kind of sexual crime when in reality He's starting to say things about the CIA. They said that they assassinated JFK. He's talking about Big Pharma.
00:28:24.000 He's saying that climate change is going to be the next pandemic.
00:28:27.000 He's saying everything that goes against the agenda.
00:28:28.000 There's going to be women that pop up out of nowhere.
00:28:30.000 There's going to be abuse victims from 1973.
00:28:33.000 But it's not going to be taken seriously anymore.
00:28:35.000 You've been accused of that.
00:28:36.000 You've been accused of that.
00:28:36.000 It's like right now, the BBC is messaging all my ex-girlfriends and trying to get a story pretty much.
00:28:41.000 If they did say anything, yeah, they are.
00:28:43.000 Wow!
00:28:43.000 Yeah, my girlfriends from like three, four years ago, they're like, what is this?
00:28:46.000 And they're not taking the interviews, but this is when the bribery happens.
00:28:50.000 I know you're saying that it'd be extremely obvious, but imagine they go on the phone call and then they say, oh, Sneeko is actually a little bit like blah, blah, blah.
00:28:55.000 Oh, okay.
00:28:56.000 If you come in for a studio interview, we'll pay for your flight and we'll accommodate you.
00:29:00.000 Wait, do you think paying for a flight and accompanying a hotel is bribery?
00:29:02.000 But this is how they get the bribery?
00:29:03.000 No, they'll say that, but then it's like $10,000 for a hotel?
00:29:06.000 No, no.
00:29:07.000 Really?
00:29:07.000 So that's his point, right?
00:29:08.000 So for example...
00:29:09.000 It could be personal gain.
00:29:10.000 Oh, I could be famous now and get a platform?
00:29:13.000 I'll do it.
00:29:13.000 Hey, I'm broke anyway.
00:29:14.000 I work at Target.
00:29:15.000 You never know what it could be.
00:29:16.000 Personal gain as well.
00:29:17.000 What are all these people that get rich and famous off of making accusations?
00:29:20.000 She wrote a book about this shit.
00:29:21.000 People have incentives.
00:29:23.000 The woman that accused Kavanaugh, she had a GoFundMe.
00:29:26.000 They might have had a GoFundMe.
00:29:27.000 She had to move her house five times, too.
00:29:29.000 She got so many threats and so much real life harassment and everything for it.
00:29:34.000 Regardless, I'm just saying, there's not this huge factory of women that are successful making false actions.
00:29:40.000 Do you remember the woman that accused Kobe Bryant?
00:29:42.000 Do you think she's a millionaire now?
00:29:44.000 She made a rap song about it.
00:29:57.000 Are you surprised that women like attention?
00:30:01.000 Men like attention, too.
00:30:02.000 We're sitting on an attention-horror podcast with four guys and all that fucking YouTube channels.
00:30:05.000 What are you talking about?
00:30:06.000 I get your point, right?
00:30:07.000 But ultimately, it's up to that individual to make it work.
00:30:10.000 So if they flop, they flop.
00:30:11.000 But other people can make it work.
00:30:12.000 I'm just saying they have the chance to become successful from doing that.
00:30:15.000 I disagree about it.
00:30:17.000 All right.
00:30:17.000 Well, that's the beauty of this podcast is we could disagree on things.
00:30:21.000 But yeah, I do think that I see a trend where women are weaponizing it.
00:30:25.000 And then look at the Amber Heard trial with Johnny Depp.
00:30:27.000 Had he not recorded her surreptitiously, we would literally be saying Johnny Depp is a deranged weirdo that grapes his wife, assaults his wife.
00:30:36.000 Thank God he recorded those conversations and we saw what was really going down.
00:30:40.000 Yeah.
00:30:40.000 I mean, he was fucking crazy too.
00:30:42.000 Yeah, but she's the face of me too as well, bro.
00:30:44.000 Sure.
00:30:44.000 Yeah, she was crazy.
00:30:45.000 They were both fucking crazy.
00:30:46.000 Yeah, he has his problems as well.
00:30:48.000 Bro, she cut his finger.
00:30:49.000 She shit on his bed.
00:30:50.000 Like, come on, man.
00:30:51.000 Every single famous soccer player, Danny Alves, Cristiano Ronaldo, all of them get accused of grape all the time.
00:30:57.000 And it's like, do they even need to?
00:30:58.000 Why would they need to grape?
00:30:59.000 These guys at that level, you really think they need to go take advantage of a random girl in the club?
00:31:03.000 People do it all the time in this industry.
00:31:04.000 What are you talking about?
00:31:05.000 A professional football player like Ronaldo...
00:31:08.000 Yeah, look at American football players.
00:31:09.000 Wasn't there like a whole fucking rape high school where they all like covered up the fucking rape of those girls?
00:31:13.000 Like, yeah, come on.
00:31:14.000 What do you mean?
00:31:15.000 I'm talking about one thing.
00:31:16.000 Answer this question specifically.
00:31:19.000 Do you genuinely think Cristiano Ronaldo needs to grape a random girl in the club?
00:31:23.000 Do they need to?
00:31:24.000 No, but I personally know people in industry that are tall, attractive, they are smart, they're witty, they're charismatic, who have tried to rape my fucking friends before.
00:31:33.000 I've seen it happen in person.
00:31:34.000 It is fucking insane.
00:31:35.000 You've seen grape attempts in person?
00:31:37.000 Yes.
00:31:38.000 You've seen live grape attempts?
00:31:39.000 Live grape attempts, yes.
00:31:42.000 From people that I wouldn't even expect it.
00:31:43.000 I'd be like, no, shut!
00:31:44.000 How are you there witnessing that?
00:31:46.000 They're pinning him down and you're just at the party.
00:31:48.000 Oh, shit!
00:31:49.000 That's a grave!
00:31:50.000 Whoa!
00:31:50.000 Someone's graping over there!
00:31:51.000 What is the scenario?
00:31:53.000 Pinning somebody down fighting him.
00:31:54.000 It's such a weird...
00:31:55.000 So what is the scenario?
00:31:57.000 What are you talking about?
00:31:59.000 We can talk after shame if you want.
00:32:00.000 Look, look, look.
00:32:01.000 The point is this.
00:32:02.000 See, this is, what are you talking about?
00:32:03.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:32:04.000 I tell you something that I witnessed firsthand.
00:32:06.000 You're like, what?
00:32:07.000 I can't possibly believe that.
00:32:08.000 But then you're like, I think they pay $50,000 in bribes to these women, and I think that it happens just when they show up in person, they make the offer in person, even though nobody's ever leaked this, and there's no proof of it whatsoever, and I've never seen any of this, and you're like, you're skeptical of my claim?
00:32:18.000 You don't believe me?
00:32:19.000 But you'll believe all this shit.
00:32:19.000 I'm asking you to describe it, and you can't.
00:32:21.000 I'm telling you this.
00:32:21.000 I'm not about to detail somebody's fucking sexual assault that they probably don't want public on the street right now.
00:32:25.000 What is the scenario where someone is getting grape attempted, and you're just like, oh, The scenario is people are out at dinner and then afterwards when people drink a little bit, people start acting fucking crazy when they get to certain areas.
00:32:35.000 That's all I'm going to say.
00:32:35.000 I'm going to out somebody's fucking story on my fucking stream.
00:32:37.000 We don't know who it is.
00:32:39.000 Yeah, but if I start giving enough details...
00:32:40.000 Someone's getting pinned down at dinner?
00:32:42.000 No, but it's getting pinned down.
00:32:43.000 Is that the only way you think right now?
00:32:45.000 You've got the gayest thoughts in your head right now.
00:32:47.000 Give me that meat!
00:32:48.000 All right, look, look, look, look.
00:32:50.000 Yeah, go.
00:32:50.000 What are we...
00:32:50.000 So, I think the point here...
00:32:53.000 I don't know what his point is, man.
00:32:55.000 Between these people.
00:32:57.000 All I'm saying is that I've seen...
00:32:59.000 We've seen a surprising amount of women weaponizing these allegations against men of influence and power to basically, you know...
00:33:09.000 Whether it's to sell a book, get them in a weird position where they can't maybe run for office or decrease their influence, whatever the fuck it is.
00:33:16.000 We've seen it be weaponized, and I'm seeing this more and more.
00:33:19.000 And with the Donald Trump thing, and you did make a good point that his deposition was kind of crazy, which was hilarious.
00:33:23.000 It was.
00:33:24.000 But during this thing...
00:33:26.000 The defense didn't even try.
00:33:28.000 Yeah, because his deposition was funny.
00:33:30.000 Because he said something along...
00:33:32.000 They played the grabber by the pussy clip, and Donald Trump was just sitting there, and he's like, Well, you know, since the beginning of time, people that are famous, you know, stars, they could grab a pussy and, you know, fortunately or unfortunately...
00:33:48.000 But the point that I'm trying to make is that it's crazy.
00:33:53.000 And the timing is so imperative.
00:33:55.000 It's just like, bro, what's happening right now?
00:33:57.000 He's picking up steam.
00:33:58.000 As he's doing these rallies.
00:34:01.000 And when she originally made these accusations, it was when he was running for office.
00:34:04.000 It always happens.
00:34:05.000 Anything else before I hit the next topic?
00:34:08.000 I mean, do you notice, he's starting to lose me on a couple points, man.
00:34:10.000 I really, I do like Trump a lot, but he's still saying stuff about Islamic extremism when it comes to a certain terrorist attack from 2001.
00:34:17.000 It's like, really?
00:34:17.000 You still believe that?
00:34:19.000 And then he's like, he's taking credit for the V-word saying like, oh, I saved Florida the death rate.
00:34:19.000 Really, Trump?
00:34:25.000 He's making 2020 Democratic points when it comes to COVID. I'm like, really?
00:34:29.000 Like, do you think anyone believes this stuff still?
00:34:31.000 Your base is completely against the...
00:34:45.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:35:00.000 So that's like one thing they get on.
00:35:01.000 What do you think?
00:35:02.000 RFK is actually, I don't like the way he talks.
00:35:04.000 He can talk a little faster, a little more high energy, but he's making a lot of good points about Big Pharma, about climate change.
00:35:09.000 I haven't looked at him enough to be able to make a valid opinion.
00:35:12.000 But I know that he's going to campaign, but I haven't.
00:35:16.000 But I think at this point, also, when it comes to the whole...
00:35:18.000 Because we're going to have Dawson on to talk about JFK. Bro, I mean, at this point, I think it's pretty...
00:35:21.000 Tucker Carlson talked about it.
00:35:23.000 I agree with him.
00:35:23.000 I think it's pretty much irrefutable, almost, that the CIA organized crime and then them boys all had a hand in John F. Kennedy being assassinated back in the 60s.
00:35:32.000 The RFK came out and said that.
00:35:34.000 Well...
00:35:35.000 Now we know.
00:35:36.000 Kennedy had a lot of enemies, man.
00:35:38.000 And if you look at what his policies were back then, etc., it went against the military industrial complex.
00:35:38.000 A lot of enemies.
00:35:44.000 It went against organized crime.
00:35:45.000 He was actually one of the few presidents that was going hard against La Cosa Nostra and them boys.
00:35:50.000 They're organized crime syndicates.
00:35:51.000 So...
00:35:52.000 You should watch NUMEC on stream and review it and see, because basically Ryan Dawson made this movie about how Israel stole the nuclear bomb, and that's basically the justification for why the CIA killed JFK. I want to see...
00:36:01.000 There was just one component of it.
00:36:03.000 And then his brother was the attorney general at the time, the top law enforcement officer.
00:36:03.000 Right.
00:36:07.000 He was going hard on the mafia, bringing them in for fucking questioning and shit, which was unheard of back then, right?
00:36:13.000 Because they had their code of silence or murder, whatever.
00:36:15.000 So he was...
00:36:16.000 They were going hard on organized crime, and they're like, now fuck this shit, so...
00:36:19.000 Yeah, that's a whole other thing.
00:36:20.000 For Rumble.
00:36:21.000 Oh, yeah.
00:36:23.000 Okay.
00:36:23.000 Okay.
00:36:24.000 Full Weetard.
00:36:25.000 Okay.
00:36:25.000 Full Weetard goes, just show support.
00:36:27.000 Appreciate that.
00:36:27.000 Mr.
00:36:28.000 Medina goes, Zestini, you look very feminine from outside.
00:36:30.000 In your opinion, what are your top three masculine traits?
00:36:33.000 Yeah, man.
00:36:34.000 No, I want to know, actually.
00:36:35.000 Yeah, what are your top three masculine traits?
00:36:36.000 Oh, my top three masculine traits.
00:36:38.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:36:39.000 I have a functional dick.
00:36:44.000 Let's see, I scream at people a lot.
00:36:45.000 Is that masculine now or did that become feminine for debating and shit?
00:36:48.000 That's emotional, yeah.
00:36:49.000 Okay.
00:36:50.000 I hate women.
00:36:51.000 Does that count as masculine?
00:36:53.000 What?
00:36:54.000 The old me would have said W, but no, that's not masculine.
00:36:56.000 Yeah, we don't hate women over here.
00:36:57.000 We love women.
00:37:00.000 Damn, I don't know.
00:37:02.000 I got a lot of money.
00:37:03.000 There you go.
00:37:04.000 There you go.
00:37:05.000 City Boy Farmer goes RP without morality is empty.
00:37:10.000 Tradcon without RP is naivety.
00:37:13.000 And then Alhamdulillah WSneekoW.
00:37:15.000 What does Alhamdulillah mean?
00:37:18.000 That means praise God.
00:37:19.000 Your boy is here.
00:37:20.000 Rolo Tomasi.
00:37:20.000 Shout out to Rolo Tomasi in the fucking house.
00:37:22.000 Bro, why are you in the chat, bro?
00:37:24.000 He's always in the chat.
00:37:26.000 Hey, chill.
00:37:27.000 He's probably doing his hair right now.
00:37:28.000 Bro, he's our homie, man.
00:37:29.000 It's not just your stream.
00:37:31.000 I see him in every show I go on.
00:37:33.000 It's like, are you always online?
00:37:36.000 Are you serious, bro?
00:37:38.000 Yeah, Pearl Show, everything.
00:37:40.000 Would you debate Rolo?
00:37:41.000 Of course I would.
00:37:42.000 He would body you.
00:37:43.000 He would body you.
00:37:45.000 As long as his wife lets him do it, you know?
00:37:47.000 Bro.
00:37:48.000 What the?
00:37:49.000 Desly just sends his weak OFgirls to debate me because he's too scared to come to Vegas and sit across the table for me.
00:37:54.000 Offer's been open since November.
00:37:56.000 Damn!
00:37:56.000 If he wants to debate me on somebody else's podcast, that's fine.
00:37:58.000 But I'm not gonna go and, like, dig this guy up, like, fucking Lazarus from the underworld and try to resurrect his fucking career.
00:38:03.000 That's not my job.
00:38:04.000 He'll be here next week.
00:38:04.000 Okay, I'll be here too if he wants to.
00:38:05.000 Oh, we should do a roundtable.
00:38:06.000 Okay, roundtable!
00:38:07.000 If he wants to, yeah.
00:38:08.000 And he should debate your ass.
00:38:09.000 Yeah.
00:38:10.000 Okay, great.
00:38:11.000 I don't want him to get the debatacron, though, and end up getting sick and, you know, not able to show up if I'm here, so...
00:38:16.000 That's fine.
00:38:17.000 We'll moderate it.
00:38:18.000 We'll moderate it.
00:38:19.000 And if y'all want to do it, you got here.
00:38:23.000 I get it out.
00:38:24.000 Sneeko Shank Sung.
00:38:25.000 He transformed into a liberal last panel so he could get ready for the destiny.
00:38:28.000 Okay.
00:38:28.000 So am I a liberal or a sneak on?
00:38:30.000 Is it conservative or liberal?
00:38:31.000 So anything that's not red pill is like, yeah, you're not one of us, bro.
00:38:35.000 They're calling me conservative and you're donating a hundred dollars to call me liberal.
00:38:38.000 I don't understand.
00:38:39.000 Like, does anyone have a clear ideology that isn't exactly lying?
00:38:43.000 Well, no, it makes sense.
00:38:44.000 You're conservative because now you become C-Con, but you're liberal because you change your mind all the fucking time.
00:38:48.000 What if I change my mind on some liberal point of view?
00:38:51.000 And what if I even change my mind on?
00:38:53.000 Tell me.
00:38:54.000 I'm just shit on you with these guys.
00:38:56.000 You fucking grifter.
00:38:57.000 I'm the grifter, right?
00:38:58.000 Asinine goes, how's Florida with them?
00:39:00.000 Hard work's gone.
00:39:02.000 Do you think it's going to affect Florida?
00:39:03.000 Hard work's gone?
00:39:04.000 I don't know what you mean by that.
00:39:05.000 Okay, thank you, Asinine.
00:39:07.000 Mr.
00:39:07.000 McNasty.
00:39:08.000 He said he would.
00:39:10.000 Yeah, at some point, dude, I started listening to some shit on Ukraine.
00:39:13.000 Holy fuck, this guy is like every single thing reported in the media he says is fake, so I have to dig through.
00:39:18.000 Because your only argument is source?
00:39:20.000 Source?
00:39:20.000 Source?
00:39:21.000 Yeah, and his argument is, uh, they lie, they lie, they lie.
00:39:23.000 Actually, the Bukha massacre, that was all Ukrainians killing themselves, like all the missiles?
00:39:26.000 That was all Ukrainians blowing on themselves?
00:39:27.000 It sounds so easy to debate them, though.
00:39:29.000 I didn't say it was easy.
00:39:29.000 It's a lot of fucking work.
00:39:30.000 Source?
00:39:31.000 Because this guy will have some fucking, like, well, in this newspaper published in 1998, they said that Ryan Dawson is sharp, though, man.
00:39:37.000 He's probably one of the smartest geopolitical commentators that I've talked to ever.
00:39:42.000 Did you obey him back in the day?
00:39:43.000 Yeah, that's how I thought about him.
00:39:45.000 2015.
00:39:47.000 He's banned on MySpace.
00:39:48.000 He was the OG canceled person on every single crypto exchange.
00:39:51.000 Ryan Dawson's really, really smart, man.
00:39:54.000 I have an emphasis on Destiny in the same podcast, but can this podcast handle the tension of Destiny in the center we're both on?
00:39:59.000 No!
00:40:00.000 There's no way he would agree to it, but that would be really funny.
00:40:03.000 He would do it.
00:40:05.000 Maybe his dad can sell some more fake merch while I'm here.
00:40:09.000 Okay, so I guess we could go ahead and pull up what y'all were talking about before.
00:40:14.000 Let's pull up Rolo's suite real quick because this has been a point of contention in a lot of things.
00:40:20.000 We got it right there.
00:40:22.000 This was his tweet, right?
00:40:23.000 This was from a week ago?
00:40:25.000 About a week ago.
00:40:27.000 The quickest path The quickest path to becoming a high value man.
00:40:31.000 Number one, don't get married.
00:40:32.000 Avoid family creation.
00:40:33.000 Vasectomy in your 20s.
00:40:34.000 Lift consistently.
00:40:36.000 Eliminate all sedations.
00:40:37.000 Learn game and networking.
00:40:38.000 Play to your strengths.
00:40:39.000 Build wealth.
00:40:40.000 Resist easing up on your focus.
00:40:42.000 And it's the quickest path to becoming a high value man.
00:40:46.000 And I know that, you know, Sneeko had some point of contention, specifically with number three, which is get a vasectomy in your 20s.
00:40:53.000 Can I just ask, did he need eight points?
00:40:55.000 Did he, like, get contracted to write all eight of these?
00:40:58.000 Because, like, I see some duplicators.
00:40:59.000 So, like, number two, avoid family creation.
00:41:01.000 Number three, vasectomy in your 20s.
00:41:02.000 Couldn't that be, like, collapsed into one point?
00:41:04.000 Did he need eight?
00:41:04.000 Did he feel stupid with, like, six or seven?
00:41:06.000 Okay, I mean, you're...
00:41:08.000 I'm just curious.
00:41:09.000 I think he's clarifying it out.
00:41:11.000 It's just eight things.
00:41:12.000 I mean, he could have said put them together, I guess.
00:41:14.000 The best person to ask questions to is Rollo directly.
00:41:16.000 That's true.
00:41:17.000 So we'll do it next week, probably.
00:41:18.000 But this list is concise because once again, he's just saying in general, that's the way to get to that point.
00:41:24.000 Yeah.
00:41:24.000 What is high value, man?
00:41:27.000 I think what he means in this context is being a guy that's desirable to women and being money, being attractive to women so that you'll be, I guess, a marketable sexual partner.
00:41:38.000 But that doesn't make sense, right?
00:41:39.000 Avoid family creation and get a vasectomy and be attractive to men.
00:41:42.000 No, no, no.
00:41:44.000 Again, I said it before.
00:41:46.000 I'll say it again because you're here.
00:41:48.000 So, he gave the instructions to retard-proof it, right?
00:41:51.000 Because when you give advice, typically you have to, you know, appeal to the lowest common denominator.
00:41:55.000 So, like, there's guys out there, right, that could have been, I'm being honest here, there's guys out there that, you know, might have could have played basketball back in the day, maybe football, whatever, and their career got smashed because they got a girl pregnant and they couldn't pursue what they wanted to do because they had to be a dad early.
00:42:07.000 So, what he's saying is, okay, this is how you mitigate risk so you could become a higher status guy.
00:42:13.000 We're going to eliminate all the things that could fuck you up.
00:42:15.000 Now, I want to make this very clear for some of y'all because some of you guys don't understand.
00:42:18.000 I'm not saying I advocate for phrasectomies or whatever.
00:42:21.000 I don't have one.
00:42:22.000 I've never gotten one.
00:42:23.000 But what I am saying is that given the context of what he's tweeting for this specific situation...
00:42:29.000 It makes sense because he's saying, hey, these are the ways so that you don't fuck yourself up to ensure that you're going to be successful.
00:42:34.000 He's retard-proofing it.
00:42:35.000 But that is a pretty retarded advice because you're saying, do this so that you become more attractive to women.
00:42:40.000 So what's even the point of having a relationship with a woman if you can't have kids with her?
00:42:44.000 Then you're just having an empty relationship just to fuck her for your whole life and then what?
00:42:47.000 No, he's saying to become high value, which means you make the choice, do you want to do that or not?
00:42:53.000 So he's giving you the choice to do that, but wants to become high value.
00:42:55.000 No, Myron just said that it's to become high value to become attractive to a woman.
00:42:58.000 Yeah, that's what you choose.
00:42:59.000 I feel like we're two months away from tweets of, like, give your bro, like, the key to your fucking cock chastity cage to make sure that you guys are fucking around without permission or whatever.
00:43:07.000 Like, I feel like we're...
00:43:07.000 Don't you guys tweet all the time about how, like, oh, like, women are fucking disgusting that are freezing their eggs at, like, 20 and they're never gonna find out.
00:43:14.000 Now you've got, like, guys that go to sperm clinics, like, here you go.
00:43:16.000 I'm never gonna be able to pregnant my wife because there's, like, a 30% reversal rate on this fucking surgery, but maybe in the future I can inject my whole fucking semen.
00:43:21.000 We laugh at girls who want to freeze their eggs all the time.
00:43:23.000 Yeah, like, it's like the same shit.
00:43:24.000 But notice, right, he has two points.
00:43:25.000 That's, like, a 90% reversal rate.
00:43:27.000 Yeah, actually.
00:43:27.000 Well, depending on how quick it is.
00:43:28.000 Wait, for vasectomies?
00:43:29.000 Yeah, so get it reversed and be able to actually...
00:43:31.000 After like 10 years, it's like 30 to 50%.
00:43:33.000 Yeah, your 20s is 10 years.
00:43:35.000 You're supposed to reverse it back within the 10.
00:43:37.000 Well, wait, hold on, wait.
00:43:37.000 Your 20s is 10 years.
00:43:39.000 Yeah, you're going to get a vasectomy at 20, become high value by 23, and then get it reversed?
00:43:43.000 I mean, I'm going to say 23.
00:43:44.000 You're being extreme as usual.
00:43:46.000 Well, he said your 20s.
00:43:46.000 That's 10 years.
00:43:47.000 Yeah, but you can do it when you're 28, 29.
00:43:50.000 Right.
00:43:52.000 So nine years, what is it, 45% chance of reversal?
00:43:56.000 Bro, you're not going to have kids anymore.
00:43:57.000 You're sterilizing half your audience.
00:43:59.000 That's just wild to me.
00:44:00.000 Hold on, hold on.
00:44:00.000 Notice, he had two points there.
00:44:02.000 He said, one, avoid what?
00:44:04.000 Family creation.
00:44:05.000 And three, that doesn't mean 20s.
00:44:07.000 You can choose what you want to do.
00:44:08.000 Apply what you need to apply.
00:44:09.000 He's just saying you can do either or.
00:44:11.000 No, he's not!
00:44:11.000 I'm just saying I'm worried that all those kids aren't going to have any customers you sell books to, okay?
00:44:15.000 Here's the thing you guys are confusing it with.
00:44:17.000 He's giving that advice.
00:44:19.000 Those things are to mitigate fuck-ups.
00:44:22.000 Yeah.
00:44:23.000 So that you get on your path to becoming higher status.
00:44:25.000 That's to mitigate fuck-ups.
00:44:26.000 It's not about, this is so you can fucking have a bunch of kids and have a family.
00:44:30.000 That's not the advice.
00:44:31.000 Advice is, this is how you mitigate fuck-ups in your 20s so that you can become attractive.
00:44:36.000 Now, again, like I said before, Am I telling guys, go out there and get a vasectomy?
00:44:39.000 No.
00:44:39.000 But he's giving these points, because if you follow those things, it's going to be very difficult for you to fuck your life up.
00:44:45.000 Here's a question.
00:44:45.000 On that list, he's got two things, okay, about your dick, okay, about avoid family creation, get a vasectomy.
00:44:51.000 Is there anything on that list about, like, just avoid women?
00:44:54.000 Avoid temptation?
00:44:55.000 Hold on, hold on.
00:44:55.000 We know as men, we want women no matter what.
00:44:58.000 Whether we want to abstain or be moan, it doesn't matter.
00:45:00.000 However, a question for you guys on the panel.
00:45:02.000 If you had a kid, be honest here, would you be where you are right now?
00:45:07.000 Destiny had a kid in his early 20s.
00:45:09.000 No, no, no.
00:45:09.000 Oh, you did?
00:45:10.000 Yeah, he had a kid in his early 20s.
00:45:12.000 He's very successful.
00:45:13.000 It was a lot of difficulty, of course.
00:45:15.000 But be honest, though.
00:45:16.000 Your kid is amazing, I bet.
00:45:18.000 But at the same time, it did pull you back a little bit on certain things.
00:45:21.000 Seiko, for you, would you be in the same spot?
00:45:22.000 Honestly.
00:45:23.000 If I had a kid at what age are you talking about?
00:45:25.000 Early, like 20s.
00:45:28.000 I mean...
00:45:28.000 No, you wouldn't be.
00:45:30.000 That's the point here.
00:45:30.000 Who knows where I would have been?
00:45:32.000 My life would have been a completely different life.
00:45:33.000 The point is you might not even be here.
00:45:35.000 I'm just trying to say, he's saying mitigate risks and say, you know what?
00:45:38.000 Well, I might not be on the Fresh and Fit podcast right now, but I would have been successful in different realms, and maybe I would have taken a different path.
00:45:43.000 Also, why not just use protection?
00:45:46.000 That's a good point!
00:45:47.000 And he said, avoid what?
00:45:48.000 Thoma creation, which means use a condom too.
00:45:50.000 No, it doesn't.
00:45:51.000 It says get a vasectomy.
00:45:51.000 That was the advice.
00:45:52.000 Stop trying to...
00:45:53.000 You're coping, bro.
00:45:54.000 Number three.
00:45:54.000 Number two said to avoid what?
00:45:56.000 Creation.
00:45:56.000 So is it like, this is like the list of eight things to be successful.
00:45:58.000 Pick five.
00:46:00.000 That's the list.
00:46:01.000 Listen.
00:46:01.000 It's like a build-your-own-lunchbox at Taco Bell?
00:46:03.000 I thought you'd follow all the points on the list.
00:46:05.000 It's the context of the fastest way to be high-value, which means, for example, mitigate risk.
00:46:10.000 That's all you're saying here.
00:46:10.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:46:11.000 Okay, but here's the part that I completely disagree with.
00:46:14.000 In the context of what he's talking, I think, I'll take it at a whole other level.
00:46:18.000 I'm not.
00:46:18.000 We're taking it literally.
00:46:19.000 Yeah, which you should take it literally if this is the godfather of the red pill, right?
00:46:23.000 You guys always give this guy so much credit.
00:46:24.000 I don't really know much about it.
00:46:28.000 We're good to go.
00:46:55.000 Nut inside girls after getting a transgender surgery.
00:46:58.000 That's the one thing you can't be disciplined in.
00:47:00.000 Sneeko, can you stop fucking girls?
00:47:02.000 Yeah.
00:47:03.000 Oh, really?
00:47:04.000 Yeah.
00:47:04.000 Stop the cat.
00:47:05.000 Hold it to her right now.
00:47:06.000 Don't fuck until you get married.
00:47:07.000 Well, no.
00:47:08.000 No, no, no.
00:47:08.000 Better advice.
00:47:09.000 You can hold it.
00:47:11.000 So don't fuck until you get married.
00:47:12.000 Better advice is- No, no, no.
00:47:13.000 I swear to God.
00:47:14.000 You're saying no.
00:47:15.000 Are you cool with that?
00:47:16.000 Handshake, handshake.
00:47:17.000 Oh, no, no, wait, [...
00:47:26.000 Does he have any kids?
00:47:27.000 No.
00:47:27.000 Big boom!
00:47:28.000 There you go!
00:47:29.000 He's able to do it!
00:47:29.000 He's able to do it!
00:47:30.000 Plan B! So he would've had a kid, which means he's gonna fuck up at some point!
00:47:34.000 Hey!
00:47:34.000 We're human!
00:47:35.000 We're men!
00:47:35.000 They still sell Plan B? No, no, but the point is...
00:47:38.000 That is the point!
00:47:38.000 He's able to fuck girls, not have a vasectomy, and still not have kids!
00:47:41.000 It's possible!
00:47:42.000 What did number two say?
00:47:43.000 Avoid final creation.
00:47:44.000 It could be condo or Plan B, but he just said to be extra careful!
00:47:46.000 Another form of contraception is what it is, basically.
00:47:48.000 But he didn't say that.
00:47:49.000 And that's not a good form of contraception because it's not supposed to be reversed.
00:47:52.000 That's what the doctor tells you when you get a vasectomy surgery.
00:47:54.000 It's like, you cannot expect this to be reversed.
00:47:56.000 You shouldn't go into that thinking that you're going to reverse it.
00:47:59.000 And also, a better advice, instead of saying never fuck again, maybe for the women that I do have sex with, prepare that she could be the mother of your children.
00:48:06.000 Maybe don't spend time with hoes all the time thinking, I need to fuck 50 girls so I understand feminists and how retarded they are.
00:48:11.000 Maybe just don't fuck them.
00:48:12.000 Maybe fuck women that you can see yourself having a family with.
00:48:15.000 When you first...
00:48:16.000 Hold on, hold on.
00:48:17.000 That's a very good point.
00:48:18.000 You won't be able to detect that, though, unless you have experience.
00:48:19.000 You need experience, bro.
00:48:21.000 How do you know?
00:48:22.000 Wait, no, no.
00:48:22.000 How do you need experience?
00:48:23.000 What does that mean?
00:48:24.000 How would you know what's good for you if you never had it?
00:48:26.000 The red pill advice is you need 50 bodies.
00:48:28.000 I want to open this one up.
00:48:30.000 Let's go.
00:48:30.000 Do you think you need to fuck a girl to tell if she's, like, family material?
00:48:34.000 No, no, no.
00:48:34.000 We're saying experience-wise...
00:48:36.000 What does experience mean?
00:48:37.000 Dating, courting, having that one-on-one experience?
00:48:40.000 Okay, she likes this, she doesn't like this.
00:48:42.000 This is weird.
00:48:42.000 This doesn't work.
00:48:43.000 I can tell from experience what works.
00:48:45.000 Wait, what does any of that have to do with fucking?
00:48:46.000 No, hold on.
00:48:47.000 I'm getting there.
00:48:47.000 Okay.
00:48:48.000 Now, adding in sex, you can understand, okay, once this point has passed, I can see who she really is.
00:48:53.000 Remember, people point on front at the very beginning, but when you have sex with somebody, they're more often likely to show you who they really are.
00:48:59.000 That is absolutely not true.
00:49:01.000 How many stories do you hear of husbands who are like, my wife used to blow me every single day and then as soon as we got married, all the sex stopped.
00:49:06.000 Or we, you know, we have dead bedrooms now.
00:49:07.000 We were super active our first year.
00:49:08.000 That is absolutely not true.
00:49:09.000 Sex can absolutely change after you've gotten married.
00:49:11.000 And you can tell, regardless of experience, you can tell who's a 304 or who's like family material without fucking them first.
00:49:17.000 For you guys, you can probably tell just by looking at their Instagrams.
00:49:19.000 Isn't that what you guys are like professionals at?
00:49:20.000 Is picking out hoes based on their Instagram pictures?
00:49:22.000 You're telling me you have to fuck through like 30 women to find a good...
00:49:25.000 How many conservative men, like if we brought in like real conservative men who have strong families, how many of them are like, yeah, you know, I had to fuck 25 bitches when I was in college in order to find the love of my life right now that could take care of my kids.
00:49:34.000 That's a wild statement.
00:49:35.000 If you want to fuck, that's fine.
00:49:36.000 But don't pretend you're doing it for this fucking altruistic purpose of finding a good mom.
00:49:40.000 But Destiny, can you admit that when you meet somebody for the first time, right, you're trying to see who they really are, the person, and ultimately you're going to have sex, right?
00:49:46.000 You don't have to.
00:49:47.000 But I mean, you know, having sex is like the least important part of seeing what kind of a person they are.
00:49:51.000 Actually, if you're compatible or not, it's very important.
00:49:53.000 If you're compatible, but in terms of like, would this be a good mom?
00:49:56.000 Is it like, what, if she throws it back doggy, she'd probably take the kids, like, out to the park every day?
00:50:01.000 Like, what does that even mean?
00:50:01.000 Like, she doesn't swallow?
00:50:04.000 I don't think she'd feed my kid if I didn't make it home in time?
00:50:06.000 Like, what does that mean?
00:50:07.000 Like, she shows up to blow me every night, so I know she'll be on time picking my kid up from school.
00:50:10.000 Like, what is the correlation here?
00:50:12.000 The whole package itself, right, is going to include sex.
00:50:14.000 I'm just saying the dating process itself, going through the whole motions, you can see who the person really is.
00:50:18.000 That's all I'm saying here.
00:50:19.000 Yeah, I've heard you say that a lot.
00:50:20.000 I'm not understanding the connection.
00:50:21.000 Alright, so this is why.
00:50:23.000 Okay.
00:50:23.000 Because I was the one that basically said this, that guys need to, I think guys should, you know, bang at least 50 girls, if not, you know, at bare minimum before they get married.
00:50:30.000 What is the average number of girls a guy fucks?
00:50:32.000 Very small.
00:50:33.000 It's like eight.
00:50:36.000 If you're saying get a vasectomy, one in three guys are virgins or haven't had sex in the past year, and you're telling these guys, yeah, you need to, they don't need that problem.
00:50:42.000 They don't, they're not fucking that many girls that they need to worry about having a kid accidentally.
00:50:46.000 Bro.
00:50:46.000 We're saying for what Rolo said in that specific tweet, it makes sense.
00:50:50.000 Are we sitting here saying, get vasectomies, guys?
00:50:52.000 No.
00:50:52.000 But in the context of what he said, becoming a high-value man as quickly as possible and mitigating all risk, I see where he's coming from.
00:50:58.000 You guys aren't really having a clear stance.
00:51:00.000 So that's what I'm saying.
00:51:01.000 With that specific tweet in that context, which we've said a million times that you don't want to accept, is that From what he's saying to become a high-value man as quickly as possible in your 20s and mitigate fuck-ups, because again, he's retard-proofing it.
00:51:13.000 Like I've said before, I see where he's coming from.
00:51:16.000 Nowhere am I saying, go get vasectomies, guys!
00:51:18.000 I'm saying, in that specific tweet, what he's saying, I understand.
00:51:21.000 Now, going back to the whole thing with 50 girls, right?
00:51:24.000 There's a bunch of reasons why I tell guys they need to get sexual experience with women.
00:51:27.000 Number one, you need to get an abundance mindset, okay?
00:51:30.000 A lot of guys get with girls out of necessity and a scarcity mindset.
00:51:34.000 First girl that touches their peepee, oh, I want to commit to you.
00:51:37.000 So that's a problem, because you're not going ahead and getting with the girl from a position of choice.
00:51:41.000 You're getting with her from a position of necessity and scarcity.
00:51:44.000 That completely changes the dynamics of the relationship, and that's going to put her in a leverage position.
00:51:48.000 That's number one.
00:51:49.000 Number two...
00:51:50.000 It'll help you understand female nature.
00:51:52.000 A lot of the times, the mask comes off after you've had sex with a girl to a degree.
00:51:55.000 Now, I know what you said.
00:51:56.000 Oh, well, then you marry her, and then she goes ahead, and you're not getting sex anymore.
00:52:00.000 That's why you don't get married, because when you marry, what ends up happening?
00:52:02.000 The girl gets leverage.
00:52:04.000 We tell guys, and even though people might not like me saying this, you need to always have the position of power and the position of leverage.
00:52:10.000 Would that completely change?
00:52:12.000 Okay, go for it.
00:52:13.000 Because this is why I'm saying you need to have sex with a bunch of girls.
00:52:16.000 Right?
00:52:16.000 You get an abundance mindset, number one.
00:52:18.000 So you're actually picking her versus, you know, a necessity standpoint.
00:52:21.000 Then it helps you understand female nature because you understand female manipulation tactics.
00:52:24.000 Because girls, right, will do whatever they can to withhold sex from you before you give enough resources, time, whatever it may be.
00:52:31.000 It's a dance between the two genders to get what they want.
00:52:33.000 And then, yeah, you're able to better discern female nature.
00:52:38.000 So those are the four main points.
00:52:39.000 I think every one of those points is silly.
00:52:41.000 One, woman is going to have leverage over you as soon as you have a family, right?
00:52:43.000 If you guys are the ones that are saying the family courts are all rigged and bugged and she can fuck you with child support.
00:52:47.000 So that doesn't matter.
00:52:48.000 Whether it's marriage or child support.
00:52:49.000 The child support is scarier than the marriage part.
00:52:52.000 Because child support is you're hooked for 18 years and you're always on child support.
00:52:56.000 Whereas alimony is like 10% of all marriages.
00:52:57.000 So whatever you're talking about avoiding leverage in a relationship, that goes immediately out the window as soon as you've nutted up on her, okay?
00:53:03.000 You mean if you have kids?
00:53:04.000 Yeah.
00:53:05.000 And we're talking about shopping for a woman that can have kids.
00:53:08.000 So that's one thing.
00:53:10.000 Second thing, I'm trying to remember every point you made.
00:53:11.000 Discerning female nature.
00:53:12.000 Getting an abundance mindset.
00:53:13.000 Getting an abundance mindset.
00:53:15.000 In any healthy relationship, your partner is going to have some kind of leverage over you.
00:53:19.000 But you need to maintain most of the leverage is the man.
00:53:19.000 Of course.
00:53:22.000 Both people are going to have somewhat of ultimate leverage for the other person.
00:53:26.000 If you're in a healthy relationship, you don't want your wife to leave you.
00:53:28.000 That would suck.
00:53:29.000 She doesn't want you to leave her.
00:53:29.000 That would suck.
00:53:30.000 But as a man, you need to have most of the leverage and you need to care about the relationship less than she does, is my point.
00:53:30.000 Of course.
00:53:37.000 In every relationship, one person is needed more than the other.
00:53:39.000 I'm saying the woman should need you more than you need her.
00:53:41.000 That's my argument.
00:53:42.000 This is horrible relationship advice.
00:53:45.000 Because at some point, you have to make the decision to say, I'm gonna start investing a scary amount of emotional and physical and psychological resources into this relationship to make it work.
00:53:55.000 Any good relationship is gonna have that investment, such that if it ends, it's gonna suck.
00:53:59.000 If you go into a relationship with this thought process of like, I need to be able to leave this 304 at any fucking point I want to be fine or whatever, you're never gonna get a good relationship.
00:54:05.000 Those aren't good relationships.
00:54:06.000 I feel like I walk away at any point in time and I don't give a fuck.
00:54:09.000 At some point, the whole point of a relationship where you really love each other is some amount of vulnerability and trust in each other to not fuck up, right?
00:54:16.000 See, I see where you're coming from, right?
00:54:18.000 Yeah, that's coming from the trying to maintain a healthy relationship.
00:54:20.000 No, no, no, I get that.
00:54:21.000 But that's why I'm saying, because I want guys to be in a position that even if they love a girl and they really like her, they can still walk away from her if she does some dumb shit.
00:54:30.000 And you get that from having an abundance mindset.
00:54:31.000 That's not love, though.
00:54:32.000 You're not building good relationships there.
00:54:34.000 You can absolutely love someone and still walk away from them when they do stupid shit.
00:54:36.000 You can just walk away.
00:54:38.000 You have to.
00:54:39.000 But that's what I'm trying to say.
00:54:41.000 Guys need to have that skill set.
00:54:43.000 Because most guys end up sitting in stupid ass relationships that they don't want to be in with girls that disrespect them, that treat them poorly, that do a bunch of fuck shit because they have a fancy mindset.
00:54:51.000 No, that's because they're fucking retarded.
00:54:53.000 You can say maybe part of it might be a scarcity mindset.
00:54:53.000 Right?
00:54:55.000 Some people stay in bad relationships for way too long.
00:54:57.000 But if you go in trying to set it up, it's like, I can walk away from this, whatever I want.
00:55:01.000 What is the reason that they stay?
00:55:02.000 Why do guys stay in bad relationships so much?
00:55:04.000 It's because of scarcity mindset.
00:55:05.000 Why do girls get in relationships way faster than the guys?
00:55:07.000 Because girls don't have a natural scarcity mindset like men do.
00:55:10.000 Destiny, you mentioned love, right?
00:55:11.000 I don't even think that's true that girls get over relationships way faster than guys.
00:55:14.000 Because you guys on here are talking all the time about like, oh, well, the reason why I don't want to date a girl that's older is because she's got all this trauma from all these other relationships.
00:55:20.000 How is a woman simultaneously traumatized by every relationship she has, but also gets over them really quickly?
00:55:24.000 Well, here's the thing.
00:55:25.000 Then why do women break up most of the time?
00:55:27.000 Because they have another guy lined up.
00:55:29.000 If they break up most of the time, does that imply the other one is the one fucking up?
00:55:29.000 Hold on.
00:55:32.000 Isn't that what the implication would be?
00:55:33.000 No.
00:55:33.000 Because they want to leave.
00:55:34.000 Hold on.
00:55:34.000 If I were to tell you, in business relationships, you know, this partner has left like, you know, like 50, 60, 70% of the time, wouldn't you assume it's because the other one is fucking up?
00:55:44.000 That's not a normal case, but we know why women do it.
00:55:46.000 Why do women do it?
00:55:47.000 They get bored.
00:55:48.000 They don't feel like it anymore.
00:55:49.000 Bored and don't feel like it anymore are good reasons to leave a relationship.
00:55:49.000 They have other options.
00:55:52.000 If you feel like you're bored in a relationship, you don't like the relationship.
00:55:54.000 Why should you stay there?
00:55:54.000 Of course you should.
00:55:55.000 As for men, you mentioned earlier love, right?
00:55:58.000 Love is freedom.
00:55:58.000 What is love?
00:55:59.000 So having the freedom to walk away is powerful.
00:56:01.000 Hold on.
00:56:01.000 Love is not the freedom to walk away from your partner.
00:56:04.000 It is.
00:56:04.000 That's not true.
00:56:05.000 Love is an obligation to your partner that supersedes your personal freedom.
00:56:08.000 That's the whole point of like, don't we say like fucking women and children first and like men dying for their family and their countries and like Like, I feel like this is some shit where like- So on one hand, the guy's got to stay if he loves her, but the girl can leave because of the- No, the woman shouldn't leave.
00:56:20.000 Hold on.
00:56:21.000 If the woman loves her partner or whatever, you also shouldn't leave.
00:56:23.000 But if people are getting bored or don't like the relationship, for a guy or a girl, yeah, of course you should leave if you're not like feeling anymore, of course.
00:56:27.000 But that's my point, bro.
00:56:28.000 A woman won't get bored if you have a scarcity mindset.
00:56:31.000 Women have a natural abundance mindset, which is why they overwhelmingly initiate divorce and breakup.
00:56:35.000 So what I'm saying is that guys need to also have an abundance mindset where they can walk away from the girl.
00:56:39.000 So there's some semblance of the power struggle isn't as, I guess, polarizing because most girls hold their leverage in most relationships and guys have no power in their relationship.
00:56:49.000 And what I'm saying is that I don't know how that's true.
00:56:51.000 Like women fare worse than men in almost every degree after divorces.
00:56:54.000 Right.
00:56:55.000 What are you talking about?
00:56:55.000 What?
00:56:56.000 They make more money.
00:56:57.000 They have better dating strategies afterwards.
00:56:59.000 Men just do better than women in almost every single metric post-divorce.
00:57:03.000 What?
00:57:03.000 What?
00:57:04.000 No!
00:57:04.000 Hold on.
00:57:05.000 Hold on.
00:57:06.000 What?
00:57:07.000 You can fucking Google it.
00:57:08.000 Financial outcomes divorce men versus women.
00:57:11.000 You can look it up.
00:57:12.000 But you guys know this on your podcast.
00:57:14.000 If you were scrolling through Tinder and you see some dude who's like, oh, single dad, that's like whatever.
00:57:18.000 For some women, that might even be a plus.
00:57:19.000 He's got a kid.
00:57:20.000 If you see single mom, what are you assuming?
00:57:20.000 He's a cool dude or whatever.
00:57:22.000 That she lives with a fucking hamper?
00:57:24.000 She's in Beverly Hills.
00:57:25.000 Single mom, she's probably lit as fuck.
00:57:26.000 No shot.
00:57:27.000 They get wiped up all the time, bro.
00:57:29.000 Single moms get wiped up all the time?
00:57:29.000 Listen.
00:57:31.000 Come on!
00:57:31.000 Wait, then what are the single...
00:57:33.000 Hold it, you...
00:57:33.000 Okay, I don't want to make it racial, okay?
00:57:35.000 But, like, we're a black community here, right?
00:57:37.000 Like, single moms are getting wiped up all the time by other men?
00:57:39.000 That's not true.
00:57:40.000 Single motherhood in a lot of communities is, like, one of the most destructive aspects to families.
00:57:43.000 And it's really hard for single moms to find another guy.
00:57:45.000 Because guys would rather not raise another kid than a woman be willing to jump into the guy with his own kid.
00:57:50.000 Are you saying a divorce absolutely impacts men more negatively than women?
00:57:50.000 Bro.
00:57:55.000 It's not even debatable.
00:57:55.000 Absolutely.
00:57:56.000 Look at outcomes afterwards.
00:57:58.000 It's not even debatable, bro.
00:57:59.000 Night and day difference.
00:58:01.000 No shit, I know this.
00:58:03.000 Tell them.
00:58:04.000 If divorce didn't destroy...
00:58:05.000 You guys are arguing, but it's so funny because this is the one time where we can just use our feelings and your intuitions are right.
00:58:12.000 You're using your brain right now to try to think, I think single moms, I think single moms actually do really well.
00:58:16.000 We all know that's not true.
00:58:17.000 Single moms get fucked.
00:58:18.000 Women fare a lot better post-divorce than men do, bro.
00:58:21.000 And the reason why is because they get the resource, they get the money, they get the children.
00:58:24.000 They get put in a better situation financially.
00:58:26.000 No, they don't!
00:58:27.000 Dude, they get the house!
00:58:28.000 Moms don't live good on child support!
00:58:30.000 That's not true!
00:58:30.000 Have you ever seen a bitch on child support?
00:58:32.000 She's not living the greatest fucking life!
00:58:34.000 She's not pulling in with her BMW like, oh yeah, I got my $350 child support this month.
00:58:38.000 I'm ready to tear it up.
00:58:39.000 This doesn't happen.
00:58:41.000 Well, we're assuming that they never got married, one, and two, they were poor from the very beginning.
00:58:46.000 I'm just saying in our average marriage, for the most part, the guy's making more money on some level, right?
00:58:52.000 Let's say the divorce and the woman leaves.
00:58:54.000 She's getting probably the house and money.
00:58:56.000 So it's kind of like she's winning.
00:58:57.000 He is, on the other hand, in a car or, for example, in a friggin' apartment.
00:59:04.000 He's done for.
00:59:04.000 You're talking about, like, the 1% of the 1% situations where a woman is, like, getting a whole house and child support.
00:59:10.000 And this is, like, a fantasy story.
00:59:11.000 Like, I'm sure it's happened, but this is incredibly right.
00:59:14.000 Most of the time, and everybody knows this, you're fighting really hard in your brain to try to think, like, single moms do well.
00:59:19.000 Everybody knows that's not true.
00:59:20.000 You guys even say single moms are a use and abuser or one-time use only for fun only.
00:59:24.000 You guys all say that shit.
00:59:25.000 We all know this.
00:59:26.000 We're not saying single women, okay?
00:59:27.000 Single moms do better than single dads.
00:59:30.000 What I'm saying is that...
00:59:32.000 I'm saying that single women...
00:59:33.000 Divorce hurts men more than it hurts women.
00:59:35.000 That's my argument.
00:59:36.000 It definitely hurts men way more because men have more to lose.
00:59:38.000 And if it didn't, why are women initiating 80% of the divorces?
00:59:41.000 Because they must really hate the relationship.
00:59:43.000 No, because they stand to benefit from it way more than men do.
00:59:45.000 They don't benefit from the divorce more than staying married.
00:59:48.000 I mean, that statistic that I saw, of course, it fares immediately.
00:59:52.000 It seems like the women are doing better financially.
00:59:53.000 That's because usually women are not as earning as much as the men.
00:59:55.000 But at the same time, there's also, if you look at the mental health rates, men are eight times more likely to commit deletion, self-deletion after divorce.
01:00:02.000 Eight times more.
01:00:02.000 True.
01:00:03.000 Marriage is a good controlling factor for men.
01:00:04.000 Eight times more.
01:00:05.000 You're going to say that women do so much...
01:00:08.000 Are we going to use suicide as the defining factor?
01:00:10.000 What percentage of people commit suicide?
01:00:12.000 Eight times more?
01:00:13.000 It is a factor to it to show who actually suffers more from divorce.
01:00:16.000 Hold on.
01:00:17.000 Suicide is affecting like point whatever percent of all men divorce.
01:00:20.000 Income is affecting everybody.
01:00:22.000 And in income, men fare better.
01:00:24.000 In future relationships, men tend to pair up more often than single moms do.
01:00:28.000 Like, these are just two...
01:00:29.000 Okay, maybe it's 1%, but still, the fact that it's 8 times more reflects the mental health, too.
01:00:33.000 Just because only a small percentage of them are actually committed to pulling the trigger, the rest of them must be way unhappier compared to the women.
01:00:40.000 I mean, they fare better by the numbers.
01:00:41.000 If we want to say they're unhappy, we can find some way to measure that, but I don't know if I would say...
01:00:44.000 Women just stand to gain more post-divorce than men do, which is why they overwhelmingly initiate their breakups.
01:00:50.000 I think they overwhelmingly initiate their breakups because they're unhappy with their relationships.
01:00:53.000 So then why get into it in the first place?
01:00:54.000 Because it would probably go to the beginning, like every relationship.
01:00:57.000 But they're awarded for it.
01:00:57.000 Because they know, once they get into it, they can break it and get away with whatever they want.
01:01:01.000 You will never find a woman.
01:01:02.000 Okay, you might find one or two.
01:01:03.000 But overwhelmingly, you're not going to find women that are like, oh yeah, like I got with this guy and I figure like, you know, if it goes bad, at least I get divorced, I get like child support.
01:01:09.000 Nobody thinks like that.
01:01:10.000 They're going to attorneys before they even get married.
01:01:12.000 Nope, no.
01:01:14.000 That's overwhelmingly not the case.
01:01:15.000 Nobody thinks like this.
01:01:16.000 Like, real women do not think like this.
01:01:17.000 Oh, yeah, like, I can give this guy, like, at least I know my divorce.
01:01:19.000 I'll get, like, alimony and child support.
01:01:21.000 Except for, like, the ultra-rare 0.1% crazy people.
01:01:24.000 To your point, let's say they're not aware of it, right?
01:01:26.000 The moment they say, you know what, mom?
01:01:27.000 I'm thinking about divorce.
01:01:28.000 Guess what happens?
01:01:29.000 They get flooded.
01:01:30.000 Oh, daughter, go here.
01:01:31.000 Do this, do that.
01:01:31.000 They're going to find out what they can do after the fact.
01:01:33.000 And then they do it.
01:01:34.000 So either way, they can find out and still do it.
01:01:35.000 If your wife is asking, how can I get a divorce, then the relationship is already fucked.
01:01:39.000 If women didn't stand to benefit, why are so many women so hell-bent on getting married?
01:01:44.000 Women want to get married, right?
01:01:47.000 And if it doesn't work out, they can divorce and get the money.
01:01:50.000 Women probably want to get married because if you're going to have a family...
01:01:53.000 My stance is simply this.
01:01:54.000 Divorce hurts men more than it hurts women, overwhelmingly.
01:01:58.000 From all aspects, whether it's money, whether it's paying alimony, whether it's finding another partner, because a single mom still will be able to find a guy to replace the dude, to a degree.
01:02:10.000 Single mom dating sucks.
01:02:11.000 He might not marry her, but he'll still get more options.
01:02:14.000 Single moms get a bunch of options.
01:02:16.000 On Tinder?
01:02:16.000 They're booming, bro.
01:02:18.000 No, we say don't do it, but niggas still get options.
01:02:20.000 Yeah, there's a lot of sims out there that'll still take them on.
01:02:22.000 Do you watch any of the dating shows on TV or any of these?
01:02:25.000 Bro, single mom dating sucks.
01:02:27.000 It's like the worst fucking thing in the world.
01:02:30.000 They have more options than an average guy.
01:02:31.000 It's crazy.
01:02:32.000 And you pull this stat that men pay 85% of child support after divorce.
01:02:39.000 85% of the people paying child support are men.
01:02:41.000 That's because most of the time the women are the caretakes of the kids and they take the kid.
01:02:44.000 That's the point.
01:02:45.000 Because men aren't taking care of their kids.
01:02:47.000 The man just leaves.
01:02:48.000 But hold on.
01:02:48.000 What are the courts based on?
01:02:50.000 The child's best interests.
01:02:51.000 So who does that align to?
01:02:52.000 The mother.
01:02:53.000 It aligns with the primary caretaker.
01:02:54.000 Which is the mother.
01:02:55.000 Sure, but if the mother's taking care of the kid, then of course she's going to be the primary caretaker.
01:02:58.000 So by default, they win a divorce.
01:03:00.000 Which means they have a better option.
01:03:01.000 But the average child support payment in the United States is like $400 a month.
01:03:05.000 Or $450 a month.
01:03:06.000 And like 50% of women don't even get child support.
01:03:08.000 And $450 a month is not a lot of money.
01:03:10.000 You're not living a life of luxury with $450 a month of child support.
01:03:13.000 And you got a fucking kid to take care of.
01:03:15.000 That's if they are marrying an average man, though.
01:03:17.000 If a guy's successful, even better.
01:03:19.000 We're just saying the odds are not for men.
01:03:22.000 I'm just saying, I don't care about the odds.
01:03:23.000 If you don't argue about that, that's fine.
01:03:24.000 It's this idea that women are going into relationships already planning out their divorce timeline.
01:03:29.000 That's insane.
01:03:30.000 Nobody wants to be divorced.
01:03:31.000 It sucks.
01:03:32.000 It's embarrassing.
01:03:33.000 It's humiliating.
01:03:33.000 It sucks for men, not for women.
01:03:34.000 No, it sucks for everybody.
01:03:35.000 Explain why did Steven Crowder's wife leave?
01:03:38.000 What?
01:03:38.000 Steven Crowder got a divorce attorney before she even divorced him.
01:03:41.000 What do you mean?
01:03:42.000 He wanted to keep the marriage going.
01:03:44.000 He might have, but their relationship was obviously fucked.
01:03:46.000 If you watch the footage...
01:03:47.000 Okay, but ultimately, it was probably her.
01:03:48.000 She was the one who leaked that video out to the press.
01:03:50.000 She was the one who initiated it.
01:03:51.000 From two years after.
01:03:52.000 So what was the reason?
01:03:53.000 Well, Crowder had already publicly started talking about the divorce as well.
01:03:56.000 Okay, well, they got married when they were virgins.
01:03:58.000 Everything seemed to go on fine.
01:03:59.000 He didn't hit her.
01:04:00.000 He didn't cheat on her.
01:04:01.000 Why did she want to leave?
01:04:02.000 Do you think that hitting somebody and cheating them is the only reason?
01:04:05.000 That's why I'm asking you.
01:04:05.000 What do you think was a valid reason?
01:04:07.000 I don't know what their relationship looked like.
01:04:08.000 There could have been a million people.
01:04:09.000 You did.
01:04:09.000 She sent the worst clip that she could possibly find from the footage, and it didn't even look bad at all.
01:04:13.000 It was a small argument.
01:04:14.000 He said, watch it.
01:04:15.000 That's it.
01:04:15.000 No, no.
01:04:16.000 It looked bad.
01:04:17.000 No, it didn't.
01:04:18.000 The relationship looked fucking miserable.
01:04:19.000 If any of your relationships look like that, you're probably...
01:04:21.000 If that was the worst thing you could find, that's a happy relationship.
01:04:25.000 And that's not a good enough reason to leave a marriage.
01:04:27.000 That actually proves that women are incentivized.
01:04:29.000 First of all, they've already probably been to therapy for counseling.
01:04:32.000 This probably wasn't their first fight.
01:04:34.000 If they're having regular fights...
01:04:34.000 That was the worst fight you could find on camera.
01:04:36.000 Ring camera on their porch.
01:04:38.000 There's probably other cameras in the house.
01:04:40.000 I mean, if that's the worst thing she can cover up, then that marriage is not bad.
01:04:44.000 She had that clip from two years ago.
01:04:45.000 Women definitely plan.
01:04:46.000 She had it from two years ago because they were getting fucking divorced.
01:04:49.000 They probably saved all the ring camera footage.
01:04:50.000 No shit!
01:04:51.000 No, she did.
01:04:52.000 It disappears.
01:04:53.000 After a while.
01:04:54.000 Only 90 days.
01:04:55.000 Two years ago, it was like a month or two later where they were already getting divorce attorneys and shit.
01:04:58.000 So I'm sure they were probably backing all that shit out.
01:05:00.000 And it was edited.
01:05:01.000 No, it was not edited.
01:05:02.000 It was.
01:05:03.000 She cut out a certain part of it.
01:05:04.000 None of it was edited.
01:05:05.000 And it was caught by the brand.
01:05:06.000 It was edited, bro.
01:05:06.000 None of it was edited.
01:05:07.000 You can literally- Bro, I saw the timestamp.
01:05:10.000 We saw the timestamp.
01:05:11.000 She literally cut out 40 seconds of the conversation.
01:05:14.000 I understand what you're saying, okay?
01:05:15.000 If you watch the way that ring cameras record, okay?
01:05:18.000 What a ring camera does is as soon as it begins to record, it records for 60 seconds.
01:05:22.000 Yes.
01:05:23.000 And then after those 60 seconds end, it looks for movement, and if there's no movement, it'll cut.
01:05:27.000 If you look at the ring camera footage, and we can bring the video now if you want, it'll be like at 30 seconds...
01:05:32.000 There'll be like a little itty-bitty cut because people stop moving.
01:05:34.000 And then as soon as somebody talks, it starts recording again.
01:05:36.000 Then after one minute and two seconds, it cuts again.
01:05:38.000 Then after one minute and two seconds, it cuts again.
01:05:39.000 It wasn't edited.
01:05:40.000 It was just because there was no movement in the video.
01:05:42.000 Later on, if you want to watch it, you can go and watch it.
01:05:43.000 Because initially, I thought it was edited.
01:05:45.000 And then I had some autistic fan that came out and he drew all the shit for me.
01:05:47.000 But like the video footage was not edited.
01:05:48.000 Regardless, whether it's edited or not, there was a significant part of the conversation not put in there for about 45 seconds that we did not see what was said.
01:05:55.000 I don't think...
01:05:56.000 We didn't see that last part either.
01:05:58.000 Well, because they went inside and it wasn't being recorded.
01:06:00.000 I'm just saying, hold on.
01:06:01.000 I just want to say your opinions on this.
01:06:03.000 It doesn't have to be cheating or physical abuse to want to leave a relationship.
01:06:07.000 Do you guys agree with that?
01:06:08.000 So what's the valid reason?
01:06:09.000 It could be that they fought all the fucking time.
01:06:11.000 It could be they didn't love each other much anymore.
01:06:12.000 It could be that they stopped fucking.
01:06:14.000 It could be that they couldn't figure out house choice.
01:06:15.000 It could be that she didn't like that he worked all the time and traveled all the time.
01:06:17.000 It could be that he didn't like her friends and she was talking shit.
01:06:20.000 It could be that like...
01:06:21.000 Her hygiene got bad or she got fat.
01:06:22.000 I don't know.
01:06:22.000 There's like a million reasons.
01:06:24.000 Nobody's arguing that.
01:06:25.000 We're arguing that if it happens and they get divorced, men are going to lose.
01:06:29.000 Well, hold on.
01:06:29.000 No, no, no.
01:06:29.000 This is pushing back on the initial point that women go into relationships looking to get divorced.
01:06:34.000 And then he brought up Steven Crowder's situation.
01:06:35.000 They've been here for nine years.
01:06:36.000 Do you think she planned that out?
01:06:37.000 Do you think her life is going to be better now as a single mom with twins saying, I got fucking divorced?
01:06:41.000 Do you guys think women wear divorce with pride?
01:06:44.000 Sometimes, yeah.
01:06:45.000 Sometimes they can.
01:06:46.000 Okay, that's wild.
01:06:48.000 Look at Tom Brady's wife.
01:06:50.000 You're going to bring up a billionaire fucking wife?
01:06:52.000 Come on.
01:06:52.000 These are your go-to examples?
01:06:54.000 Do you think the average woman tells her family...
01:06:55.000 Women look up to these girls.
01:06:56.000 Women always compare themselves to the famous celebrities they see on the magazines.
01:06:59.000 Like, I'm a divorced queen now.
01:07:01.000 I'm having my new awakening in my 40s.
01:07:04.000 You might be right where no party likes divorce.
01:07:07.000 Ultimately, who's going to win?
01:07:08.000 The women.
01:07:09.000 We're just saying that.
01:07:10.000 Women will get more money from the man at the end.
01:07:12.000 Because the man is usually earning more.
01:07:14.000 But post-divorce men fare better than the women.
01:07:17.000 That's why the women get a little bit more money.
01:07:18.000 They fare better in what regard then?
01:07:20.000 Financially and in future relationships.
01:07:24.000 I still think a single mom has more prospects than a single dad.
01:07:28.000 100%.
01:07:28.000 Like women have more prospects.
01:07:29.000 Bro, an average girl has more prospects than some of the top tier guys.
01:07:32.000 Prospects to fuck.
01:07:34.000 But still, here's the thing.
01:07:35.000 Men will still...
01:07:38.000 You're 100% right about that.
01:07:39.000 But they at least get the opportunities.
01:07:41.000 To put themselves out there in front of a guy.
01:07:44.000 Because, yes, there's a lot of prospects to fuck, yes.
01:07:47.000 But in that, all those prospects are some guys that will definitely court them and take them seriously as well.
01:07:52.000 I mean, like...
01:07:53.000 I don't want to share on single moms, but there aren't a lot of ultra-high-value guys that are looking to wife up a single mom who's 32.
01:08:00.000 Yeah, but I'm saying they just have more options.
01:08:01.000 No, but I'm saying that it's not like her dating options are vast.
01:08:04.000 And again, if you look at the research, men afterwards will fare better in getting into relationships better than women do, who are single dads versus single moms.
01:08:10.000 But they're still broke, though.
01:08:12.000 Why are they broke?
01:08:14.000 Divorce.
01:08:15.000 Divorce doesn't break you all the time.
01:08:16.000 That's not true.
01:08:17.000 You guys look at the most extreme examples.
01:08:19.000 Also, 85% of men have to pay child support after divorce.
01:08:21.000 Again, the average child support is like $450 a month.
01:08:23.000 That's a lot of money.
01:08:24.000 That's a lot of money for the average guy.
01:08:25.000 If I'm making only $1,000 every two weeks, bro, that's a lot of money.
01:08:29.000 If you're making $1,000 every two weeks, you're not paying $450 of child support.
01:08:32.000 Well, you said that's the average.
01:08:33.000 I said that's the average, and you're giving me the lower end of what men are making.
01:08:36.000 That's a lot of money for a lot of guys who are watching the show right now.
01:08:39.000 Probably, but a lot of guys watching the show right now have never touched a girl in their lives, so...
01:08:42.000 Oh gosh, yeah, they're fine.
01:08:43.000 Okay, and then you're also gonna say...
01:08:44.000 Don't take a child support again.
01:08:45.000 That's such a stupid point.
01:08:47.000 The first person that's gonna touch your dick is a doctor in the possession.
01:08:49.000 Don't take that from him, bro.
01:08:51.000 You are a stud, bro.
01:08:52.000 How are you gonna say that there's no guys that are gonna take a single mom seriously and then also make fun of 20,000 people watching and say that these guys aren't fucking...
01:09:00.000 Of course they're gonna go settle down with the single mom if they got the chance.
01:09:02.000 If you're calling these loser guys who can't get a girl, if they find a hot girl who has a kid, they're gonna go and settle according to your logic.
01:09:08.000 Guys, like the video, man.
01:09:10.000 How many likes do we have on this video?
01:09:12.000 I don't know.
01:09:14.000 Some probably went...
01:09:15.000 Some dislikes probably came after that.
01:09:18.000 And there are divorce parties.
01:09:19.000 I've seen a lot of them on social media.
01:09:21.000 Women celebrate that.
01:09:22.000 They have their new thing in their 40s.
01:09:23.000 I'm 21 forever.
01:09:24.000 They celebrate this thing.
01:09:25.000 It's actually encouraged a lot of women like that.
01:09:26.000 It's just simple because, like I said, as feminism has gotten stronger and stronger, women are able to, you know...
01:09:32.000 Leave relationships, et cetera, and things have changed.
01:09:34.000 The sexual marketplace has changed.
01:09:36.000 Women have initiated more and more divorces, bro.
01:09:38.000 Women are certified nowadays.
01:09:40.000 The idea that women like divorce and like to initiate it, and it's like fun.
01:09:43.000 They like being single?
01:09:45.000 Wild.
01:09:45.000 No, they like getting out of a bad relationship.
01:09:47.000 But they don't like divorce.
01:09:48.000 Somebody goes in wanting to get divorced.
01:09:50.000 It's humiliating to say you got divorced.
01:09:52.000 Because here's the thing.
01:09:53.000 Women don't marry for duty like they used to anymore.
01:09:55.000 They marry for I want to be happy.
01:09:57.000 They marry for happiness.
01:09:58.000 And let's be honest here.
01:09:59.000 Happiness and emotions fluctuate all the time.
01:10:01.000 Yep.
01:10:02.000 That's part of building a relationship.
01:10:04.000 A lot of girls don't want to stay in that way.
01:10:05.000 But that's what I'm trying to say.
01:10:06.000 The whole point of building a relationship is building it past the honeymoon phase.
01:10:09.000 Like, oh, I love you.
01:10:10.000 That's part of building a good relationship.
01:10:11.000 You know what, Destiny?
01:10:12.000 Yeah.
01:10:12.000 You better never get divorced.
01:10:14.000 I've already been divorced.
01:10:16.000 So what are you saying?
01:10:17.000 Wait, who initiated that one?
01:10:18.000 Uh, we both kind of did.
01:10:19.000 No!
01:10:21.000 I know what that means!
01:10:22.000 We got him!
01:10:24.000 We got him!
01:10:24.000 I got married when I was 19.
01:10:26.000 We both got married for financial aid.
01:10:28.000 She initiated it, bro.
01:10:30.000 What does we both initiate?
01:10:31.000 We don't need to get personal.
01:10:33.000 We can go as personal as you want.
01:10:34.000 We broke up.
01:10:35.000 No, you're a person about the grape and the dinner table story, so you're not going to get personal.
01:10:38.000 We're going to move on, man.
01:10:39.000 Yeah, I'll move on to you.
01:10:40.000 All right, we got here Cam from TMR Radio.
01:10:43.000 Stop the cap.
01:10:43.000 Statistically, abstinence preaching doesn't work.
01:10:45.000 The whole point of his post was risk mitigation.
01:10:47.000 Nico's being obtuse for clicks.
01:10:48.000 This is actual female-ish arguing like this.
01:10:50.000 Well, it doesn't have to be abstinence, but also just realize the risk.
01:10:52.000 Like, when you go and have sex with a girl, understand that you could get her pregnant and then take responsibility for it if that does happen.
01:10:58.000 Like, if you're going to exercise discipline in every single aspect of your life, you need to network.
01:11:02.000 You can't watch porn.
01:11:03.000 You can't play video games.
01:11:04.000 You can't smoke weed.
01:11:05.000 But you can fuck a bunch of feminist hoes who you don't want to have kids with.
01:11:08.000 That's stupid.
01:11:09.000 I agree with you, but here's the problem.
01:11:12.000 You did Plan B, right?
01:11:14.000 Why don't you keep it?
01:11:18.000 Better than getting a vasectomy.
01:11:21.000 Better than getting a vasectomy.
01:11:23.000 I was in college, man.
01:11:25.000 Back in the day.
01:11:27.000 Don't make me air out your shit, bro.
01:11:29.000 I was being honest.
01:11:31.000 Got it one time.
01:11:32.000 No, no, no.
01:11:33.000 You're not the one advocating for it.
01:11:35.000 You're not the one advocating for it.
01:11:36.000 You're not taking any stance at all.
01:11:38.000 You're like, oh, I understand why, but I'm not pro or con.
01:11:41.000 Take a stance.
01:11:42.000 That is an individual choice.
01:11:43.000 I can't tell anybody to do what they don't want to do.
01:11:45.000 It's individual.
01:11:46.000 I'm asking your opinion.
01:11:47.000 Do you think advocating for vasectomies for a male audience is good or bad?
01:11:51.000 And I told you the last show, nigga.
01:11:53.000 So you're not taking a stance.
01:11:54.000 Hold on, hold on.
01:11:55.000 I personally, I'm not going to do it, but...
01:11:57.000 I'm not asking about you.
01:11:58.000 Would you advocate for...
01:12:00.000 Here we go.
01:12:00.000 Here we go.
01:12:01.000 20,000 men's brains.
01:12:02.000 They're connected to you right now fresh and you can transmit them one message.
01:12:05.000 Do you tell them you should get a vasectomy or don't get a vasectomy.
01:12:08.000 This is the answer.
01:12:09.000 This is the full answer.
01:12:10.000 Their minds are hooked in you right now.
01:12:11.000 Get ready.
01:12:12.000 They're about to call their general practitioners right now.
01:12:13.000 Right now.
01:12:14.000 Yeah.
01:12:14.000 As a man, let's say what you want.
01:12:17.000 Do you want kids?
01:12:19.000 Bro, this is a ducking answer.
01:12:21.000 I'm giving them the full answer.
01:12:22.000 Do you want kids?
01:12:23.000 Do you want a business?
01:12:25.000 Do you want to be successful?
01:12:26.000 Weigh that out.
01:12:28.000 Then put on priority what matters to you as the individual man.
01:12:31.000 Then from there, plan out your life.
01:12:33.000 And if that includes a vasectomy, good for you.
01:12:35.000 But if it doesn't, so what?
01:12:36.000 I'm just saying as an individual, you choose whatever you want to do.
01:12:40.000 It's simple.
01:12:41.000 You're avoiding the question.
01:12:41.000 I answered it for you.
01:12:42.000 That's not an answer.
01:12:43.000 It is.
01:12:44.000 Would you advocate towards a vasectomy for the majority of people watching yes or no?
01:12:47.000 I told you.
01:12:48.000 It's up to that person.
01:12:49.000 It's a yes or no question.
01:12:50.000 You kick out girls for not answering yes or no questions on the show all the time.
01:12:53.000 I answered a question.
01:12:54.000 It's a yes or no.
01:12:55.000 No, it's not.
01:12:56.000 It's not black and white.
01:12:57.000 I'm asking you a yes or no question.
01:12:58.000 What?
01:12:59.000 Bro, I just told you what the answer was.
01:13:01.000 It does vary wildly from man to man, bro.
01:13:03.000 The thing is, if you're saying all this stuff, you're not really giving me advice.
01:13:06.000 Imagine somebody comes to me and they're like, should I start working out?
01:13:09.000 I'm like, well, it depends on your diet and your sleep and you should make the right choice for you based on what you want your life to look like.
01:13:13.000 That's not advice.
01:13:14.000 If somebody goes to me, like, do I want to be high-value?
01:13:15.000 It's like, well, you should make the right choice for you.
01:13:19.000 Your advice is, like, figure out what's right for you, but they're coming to you for the advice.
01:13:22.000 If a girl came in and said, should I wait until I'm 35, freeze my eggs when I'm 21, and then unfreeze my eggs when I'm 35, I would say, no, that's a stupid decision.
01:13:29.000 You shouldn't do that.
01:13:30.000 You should go and prioritize your youth now.
01:13:32.000 Okay.
01:13:33.000 Yeah, and you would probably agree.
01:13:34.000 You would probably tell the girls who want to freeze their eggs, that's stupid.
01:13:37.000 Why can't you apply?
01:13:38.000 That's the exact same thing for men.
01:13:39.000 What are they going to do?
01:13:41.000 Do whatever they want to do.
01:13:42.000 And so I'm looking for your advice.
01:13:44.000 I'm coming in as a viewer, as a fresh infant viewer, 20,000 people watching.
01:13:47.000 What is your opinion on this?
01:13:48.000 I just told you.
01:13:49.000 Personally, I would not do it, but the individual might want to do it.
01:13:51.000 Okay, if a girl came in asking if she should freeze her eggs, what would you say?
01:13:55.000 It's up to you?
01:13:56.000 I would say, personally speaking, if I were you, I wouldn't do that.
01:13:59.000 Okay.
01:14:00.000 But!
01:14:00.000 No, but!
01:14:01.000 It's up to you.
01:14:02.000 And guess what?
01:14:03.000 What happens on the show?
01:14:03.000 They give advice all the time.
01:14:04.000 They still go out and do the same shit.
01:14:06.000 So it's kind of like, bro, I can give people advice, but they're going to do what they want to do anyway.
01:14:10.000 So your point's mute.
01:14:11.000 Let's move on, Matt.
01:14:11.000 You just, like, destroy the whole format of, like, YouTube shows.
01:14:14.000 If you're just going to say you're going to do what you're going to do anyway, it's like, okay, here's the financial advice show for rental properties.
01:14:20.000 You guys are going to do what you're going to do anyway.
01:14:21.000 Good luck.
01:14:23.000 I'm asking his question, but I'm just saying in general, as a man, that's your choice to make.
01:14:29.000 So is being fat.
01:14:30.000 So is playing video games, so is smoking weed.
01:14:32.000 That is a life-altering choice.
01:14:34.000 So is being fat.
01:14:36.000 And the stance from the show is being fat is unacceptable.
01:14:39.000 Most guys are going to be fat anyway.
01:14:41.000 America's getting fatter and fatter.
01:14:42.000 This is external to having kids.
01:14:44.000 That's a life-changing choice for having kids.
01:14:46.000 Not being fat.
01:14:47.000 Being fat is life-changing.
01:14:48.000 Very life-changing.
01:14:49.000 Not for kids though, bro.
01:14:51.000 Damn, it's even worse for kids.
01:14:52.000 Being fat.
01:14:54.000 I mean, having kids in general.
01:14:55.000 Okay, but if you can have a hard stance on a life choice being fat, why can't you have a hard stance on a vasectomy and having children?
01:15:01.000 I just told you what it was.
01:15:04.000 Myron, do you have a hard stance on this?
01:15:06.000 Because you've had controversial opinions on sports, video games, porn, everything that distracts you from becoming high value.
01:15:14.000 Do you have a hard stance on this?
01:15:16.000 Would you advocate yes or no towards getting a vasectomy?
01:15:18.000 Or we can say, guy comes up, he's 19.
01:15:21.000 First year in trade school, because college is for losers.
01:15:23.000 He's on his way to becoming an electrician.
01:15:24.000 He's like, I think I want to start my electrician company.
01:15:27.000 Hopefully I'll find a woman in the next four or five years, but I want to focus on my career for the next three or four years.
01:15:31.000 Find a woman maybe when I'm 25, 26, and maybe have kids in my late 20s.
01:15:34.000 Do you think I should get a vasectomy?
01:15:35.000 What would you tell that guy?
01:15:37.000 In that particular situation, I would tell them, no, just wear a condom and don't be an idiot and focus on, obviously, your business and everything else.
01:15:46.000 But, you guys got to understand that for this particular situation, it's not black and white because every man is in a different point in his life and it varies wildly depending on their age, their income level.
01:15:57.000 Exactly.
01:16:00.000 We're good to go.
01:16:14.000 Go to the gym and exercise because it's pretty much irrefutable that going to the gym and exercising is going to give you a healthier life.
01:16:19.000 So that's not up for debate.
01:16:20.000 But when it comes to vasectomy, that varies wildly between each man and their life choices, what they want to do, where they are in life, their sexual experience, how much money they make, etc.
01:16:29.000 I feel like vasectomy, the advice is very easy.
01:16:31.000 If you are out of stage in your life and you're done wanting to have kids, get a vasectomy.
01:16:35.000 That's one situation where it would be valid.
01:16:37.000 That's one example where it would be valid.
01:16:40.000 It is, but once again, what if I change my mind?
01:16:43.000 10 years later, and it's harder.
01:16:45.000 You're fucked.
01:16:45.000 That's the point.
01:16:46.000 There's a difference between, like, I'm 36, I've got three kids, I'm done having kids, I'm going to get a vasectomy, versus I'm going to get a vasectomy when I'm 19 because I don't think I want to have kids.
01:16:54.000 Those are two wildly different situations.
01:16:56.000 And that's your demographic, for the most part.
01:16:57.000 Snickle, you said yourself, right?
01:16:58.000 That you change as a person.
01:17:01.000 A vasectomy is a permanent surgery, so I wouldn't recommend someone get a permanent surgery if you're going to grow and continue maturing throughout your 20s.
01:17:07.000 Okay, that's great.
01:17:08.000 Actually, it's not permanent.
01:17:09.000 It could be reversed.
01:17:10.000 Maybe.
01:17:12.000 Maybe.
01:17:12.000 There's a high likelihood that it could be reversed.
01:17:13.000 And also, I disagree with you saying that it varies man to man about what they want in life.
01:17:19.000 Yeah.
01:17:19.000 I don't think it really varies as much as you're saying it does.
01:17:22.000 Our purpose here, the reason that we're here, is to have a family.
01:17:25.000 The reason that we exist is to procreate.
01:17:27.000 It does not vary as much as you think.
01:17:28.000 It absolutely varies.
01:17:29.000 One guy that has children is different than a guy that might not have children.
01:17:32.000 The guy that has children already has a family, just like Destiny said.
01:17:35.000 He would be a good candidate for a vasectomy.
01:17:37.000 Go ahead and do it.
01:17:37.000 Another guy, right, that's younger in his life, might not be a good option.
01:17:40.000 But the advice wasn't targeted at that guy.
01:17:42.000 You know who that advice was targeted at.
01:17:43.000 It's targeted at the young guy in his early 20s or teens because he's saying, dissect me in your 20s.
01:17:48.000 So this must be advice for people who are just starting their male adulthood.
01:17:52.000 Again, bro.
01:17:54.000 That's exactly what the context was.
01:17:56.000 You're taking what he's saying and applying it to the general masses.
01:18:00.000 He's saying, in this specific instance, if you want to get your value up as quickly as possible, And who is that advice for?
01:18:05.000 Young men.
01:18:06.000 Not the guy who's already had three kids who's 36.
01:18:08.000 He's not going to decide I'm going to become a high-value man after having a family.
01:18:12.000 You're targeting towards young men who are navigating life.
01:18:14.000 Taking advice from an older guy on the internet.
01:18:16.000 Look, he's saying for this particular situation, you want to become as high-value as possible.
01:18:21.000 Quickly, do all these things and it'll mitigate your risk.
01:18:25.000 He can also stand there, work 150 hours a week.
01:18:29.000 Obviously, that's not practical for a lot of people.
01:18:30.000 I saw that.
01:18:31.000 He said he wants to call in and tell us what he actually meant.
01:18:34.000 Uh...
01:18:35.000 I guess.
01:18:36.000 Here's a novel idea.
01:18:37.000 How about you tell me...
01:18:38.000 Let me call it to tell you what I actually meant.
01:18:40.000 You know what?
01:18:41.000 Let's do it, bro.
01:18:42.000 Yeah, we gotta fire up the phone lines, though.
01:18:44.000 Moe, you know how to do that?
01:18:46.000 Is Chris not here?
01:18:47.000 Chris is not here.
01:18:48.000 Oh, boom.
01:18:48.000 He's sleeping, dude.
01:18:49.000 Oh, Chris.
01:18:49.000 Okay.
01:18:51.000 We'll...
01:18:51.000 We'll get it done.
01:18:52.000 We'll get it going.
01:18:53.000 Okay.
01:18:54.000 Some chat for now?
01:18:54.000 But yeah.
01:18:55.000 Guys, we got 21K watching, man.
01:18:56.000 I like the video.
01:18:57.000 Yeah, watch the channel.
01:18:58.000 And follow...
01:18:59.000 You on Rumble?
01:18:59.000 Cuckstany, yeah.
01:19:00.000 Rumble.com.
01:19:01.000 Cuckstany.
01:19:02.000 That's fucking funny.
01:19:03.000 Cuckstany.
01:19:04.000 All right.
01:19:04.000 Where are we...
01:19:06.000 Jose Corotta goes, Martin, how are you okay with telling young men to go to sleep around before marriage?
01:19:11.000 You've said men should sleep with at least 50 girls before marriage.
01:19:13.000 Quran 24 to condense promiscuity.
01:19:16.000 Sneak go, go do Muay Thai and Thailand.
01:19:18.000 Look, bro.
01:19:19.000 See, this is what I mean when I say people lack critical thinking skills.
01:19:22.000 Yeah.
01:19:22.000 We're only supposed to do the fun parts of the religion, okay?
01:19:24.000 Not the shitty parts, guys.
01:19:26.000 No, it's not that.
01:19:27.000 It's that, number one, I'm not saying that I'm the, you know, the best Muslim ever.
01:19:31.000 I've said this plenty of times that I'm not the best Muslim and I need to practice better and become a better Muslim if I want to.
01:19:36.000 I've said that before, okay?
01:19:37.000 That's number one.
01:19:38.000 So, and then number two, I'm telling guys, in the West, if you want to go ahead and get a relationship with a girl, these women are promiscuous and these girls are out here doing things.
01:19:46.000 I don't want guys getting finessed, going into a relationship with a girl that has more bodies than you, has more sexual experience than you, and you're a virgin and you think, oh my god, she likes me!
01:19:55.000 Because you're too stupid to realize and don't have the abundance mindset to understand how women move.
01:20:00.000 So, again, this is what I'm trying to say when I say, like, these traditional conservative beliefs, they're fantastic on paper, but they don't work today, bro.
01:20:06.000 They don't.
01:20:07.000 Okay?
01:20:07.000 And with all the things that guys are risking, with the marriage courts, the divorce courts, etc., you're going to take an L. So you need to know what the fuck you're getting into, man.
01:20:14.000 So, again, if you want to go ahead and have a more traditional relationship like what you're advocating here, bro, go to Saudi Arabia.
01:20:20.000 You know what I mean?
01:20:21.000 Go to a Middle Eastern country where they observe...
01:20:24.000 Those beliefs, take them more seriously than here.
01:20:26.000 But I'm talking about in the West, man, where feminism is strong.
01:20:29.000 You have to move differently.
01:20:30.000 The game has changed.
01:20:32.000 Alright?
01:20:32.000 What else we got here?
01:20:35.000 Kingdom001.
01:20:36.000 Destiny is full of it when it comes to his relationship beliefs.
01:20:38.000 His wife said he had problems with cheating and loyalty.
01:20:40.000 That's part of the reason she insisted they have an open relationship.
01:20:43.000 He actually lives a red pill life.
01:20:44.000 Listen, I got all sorts of problems with my relationship, okay?
01:20:48.000 At least he's making it work, I guess.
01:20:51.000 HoneySuck says, question for Sneakle.
01:20:52.000 What's your opinion on the drama that happened between Rolo and Nick?
01:20:55.000 I didn't watch it, but you know Nick.
01:20:57.000 Our Nick.
01:20:58.000 Our guy.
01:20:59.000 The next president of the United States in 2036.
01:21:01.000 America First.
01:21:04.000 What happened?
01:21:05.000 What was the drama between them?
01:21:05.000 What happened?
01:21:07.000 I'm not sure I need to watch it.
01:21:08.000 Ron Zero says, so it's not a high value man, but a high value man to women.
01:21:13.000 Because the true value of a man won't ever be defined really by rather or not another gender like you.
01:21:19.000 That's just a fringe benefit to being high value.
01:21:22.000 Oh, nice.
01:21:23.000 Good job.
01:21:24.000 That guy should be a co-host.
01:21:25.000 Yeah.
01:21:26.000 No, but Rolo once again was mentioning High Value Man in itself.
01:21:30.000 Brendan Hunter says, Hi guys, support from Malta.
01:21:34.000 Wanted to say thanks for self-improvement and motivation.
01:21:36.000 So listening to your podcast, I got promoted to an executive role and working for head of department.
01:21:41.000 Keep doing this and it does help a lot.
01:21:43.000 Shout out to you, bro.
01:21:45.000 Alright.
01:21:45.000 What else here?
01:21:46.000 Three Diglets.
01:21:47.000 Sneeko, when's the last time you busted a nut?
01:21:48.000 You meet watching like crazy, bro.
01:21:50.000 Damn.
01:21:51.000 We got the dick police out tonight.
01:21:52.000 I mean, that's a valid question.
01:21:53.000 That's not...
01:21:54.000 Mr.
01:21:57.000 Tradcon?
01:21:57.000 Yeah, go ahead, Mr.
01:21:59.000 Tradcon.
01:22:00.000 Go ahead, nigga.
01:22:01.000 When did I say it was a Tradcon?
01:22:03.000 It's in the name.
01:22:04.000 Sneakon.
01:22:05.000 Sneakon.
01:22:06.000 Bro, were you not on this podcast less than a week ago?
01:22:09.000 Did I say I was a tradcon?
01:22:12.000 A leaf in the wind, bro.
01:22:14.000 It's blowing.
01:22:16.000 It's a specific question.
01:22:18.000 When did I say I'm a tradcon?
01:22:20.000 You don't have to say it, but you had traditional conservative beliefs about your family and all this other stuff.
01:22:26.000 Why should guys waste their time having pointless sex, meaningless sex, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:22:30.000 Don't stop the baby, Nico.
01:22:32.000 You know what?
01:22:33.000 That's hashtag Snickles Baby.
01:22:35.000 R.I.P. What?
01:22:36.000 Snickles Baby R.I.P.? I'm not killing it, baby.
01:22:40.000 That's crazy me.
01:22:41.000 You want me to go on a podcast right now and tell everyone, oh yeah, busted a nut yesterday.
01:22:45.000 That's what you want me to say?
01:22:46.000 Talk about my nut bust?
01:22:48.000 Genuinely, that's what you want me to talk about?
01:22:49.000 But you can't answer a specific question about vasectomies?
01:22:51.000 I did!
01:22:52.000 But I need to talk about nut busting?
01:22:53.000 No, I didn't answer that.
01:22:55.000 No, you didn't!
01:22:56.000 Yes or no question.
01:22:57.000 Bro, it's not black and white!
01:22:59.000 It's not black and white!
01:23:00.000 Every guy is different!
01:23:01.000 I'm asking you a yes or no.
01:23:02.000 I asked you a yes or no question and you ducked that.
01:23:04.000 If you give me a specific scenario for the guy, then I can give you a specific answer for him.
01:23:09.000 But again, I can't give a specific answer.
01:23:10.000 It's general advice.
01:23:11.000 Dude, generally, you heard us.
01:23:13.000 Personally, we would not.
01:23:15.000 It's funny, though, how you answered it for the girls, though.
01:23:17.000 You would say that a girl, you should not freeze her eggs, and you would definitely get the same answer.
01:23:20.000 Because women have a finite amount of time to have children.
01:23:22.000 It's biological.
01:23:24.000 That's the point of freezing your eggs.
01:23:25.000 You don't have a finite amount of time.
01:23:26.000 It's general for women, but it's not general for men.
01:23:29.000 Because with women, their chances of having a child after they turn 30 drop off precipice.
01:23:34.000 Not if she freezes her eggs.
01:23:35.000 Not if she freezes her eggs.
01:23:37.000 Are we the same?
01:23:39.000 As women?
01:23:39.000 Men and women are not the same.
01:23:41.000 I feel like there should be a segment of this show now where I find the most retarded shit Rollo has said, and then I see how much you guys defend him.
01:23:48.000 Because I know you motherfuckers don't want to defend this point, but because Rollo fucking said it, now you feel like you're roped into it.
01:23:52.000 It's just the context, bro.
01:23:54.000 Rollo.
01:23:56.000 Can we get him on the phone, bro?
01:23:57.000 I might call him.
01:23:59.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:24:01.000 Because a blog talk, I'd like to fire it up and it would take some time.
01:24:05.000 Or he could join StreamYard.
01:24:09.000 Oh, shit.
01:24:09.000 Actually, we could do that.
01:24:10.000 I'm going to save the link.
01:24:11.000 Yeah.
01:24:11.000 All right.
01:24:11.000 Then that could be two.
01:24:14.000 Okay.
01:24:14.000 So we got here.
01:24:15.000 Jay Wood.
01:24:16.000 LOL St.
01:24:16.000 Jim's comment.
01:24:17.000 Fax machine.
01:24:18.000 No printer.
01:24:18.000 Destiny and his girl smashed dudes on the side.
01:24:20.000 Sneak, I wish I had taken Rolo's advice.
01:24:22.000 1K a month child support right here, sir.
01:24:25.000 Times 18 years.
01:24:26.000 You're young.
01:24:27.000 You don't know.
01:24:28.000 You don't know.
01:24:28.000 Pull out, bro!
01:24:29.000 Pull out, bro!
01:24:31.000 You pull out game weak!
01:24:32.000 Okay, that's true, but again, the whole vasectomy thing, like we said before, it's retard-proof for the people so that they don't make that mistake.
01:24:39.000 So you're calling him a retard?
01:24:41.000 He made a mistake, and he's telling you right now, he's acknowledging that mistake and saying like, damn, bro, I fucked up.
01:24:46.000 So you're calling him, yeah, okay, so you're retarded.
01:24:49.000 Pull out.
01:24:50.000 What's wrong?
01:24:50.000 I love how you...
01:24:51.000 I mean, that's basically what you're saying.
01:24:53.000 Look at the guy's picture, he looks retarded.
01:24:57.000 All right, where are we at here?
01:24:58.000 Yes, my vasectomies are 97%.
01:25:01.000 Okay.
01:25:03.000 Reversal within 10 years.
01:25:04.000 That is not true.
01:25:04.000 I don't know where you're getting that.
01:25:05.000 It's 90% plus.
01:25:06.000 It's like 30 to 60%.
01:25:08.000 It's like 30 to 60% after 10 years.
01:25:11.000 No, within.
01:25:11.000 Within.
01:25:12.000 No, within 10 years is not true.
01:25:14.000 It's not 97% reversible.
01:25:15.000 No, no.
01:25:16.000 It's 90% within 10 years.
01:25:17.000 Just look it up.
01:25:17.000 I can Google it.
01:25:18.000 Okay.
01:25:19.000 Okay.
01:25:19.000 However, vasectomies can still cause most men to be infertile after reversal surgery based on many studies.
01:25:24.000 So Sneeko would be right in this case about Rolo comments.
01:25:27.000 Oh, hold on.
01:25:28.000 If we're going to play the well-actually game, that's probably true.
01:25:32.000 The studies that I've seen isn't whether or not a vasectomy is reversible.
01:25:36.000 It's how many of those men are fertile after.
01:25:38.000 So it might be that you can get it reversed, but the fertility rate drops a ton.
01:25:41.000 So I'm pretty sure fertility after 10 years is anywhere from 30 to 60%.
01:25:45.000 But that doesn't mean it just magically zips to that after 10 years.
01:25:47.000 Like, it's steadily going up every single year.
01:25:49.000 Yeah, it takes time.
01:25:49.000 It takes time.
01:25:50.000 Okay, where are we at here?
01:25:52.000 Okay, we got Cam from TMR Radio.
01:25:54.000 Go, stop the cap.
01:25:55.000 Statistically abstinence.
01:25:56.000 Preaching doesn't work.
01:25:57.000 The whole point of his post was to risk mitigation.
01:25:59.000 Sneak goes being...
01:26:00.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:26:00.000 I read that one.
01:26:01.000 Okay.
01:26:02.000 A low hand.
01:26:02.000 Can FBoy be a good dad?
01:26:05.000 Yeah, why not?
01:26:07.000 Yeah, but a whore can't be a good mom, right?
01:26:10.000 No.
01:26:10.000 Men and women are not the same, Nico.
01:26:12.000 We all know this.
01:26:13.000 Run zero, 50 bucks.
01:26:14.000 Someone is fucking up, but it's not necessarily due to it being the other person's fault.
01:26:19.000 Also, if you love, you'll let them go is true.
01:26:21.000 Like, leaving someone because you know the toxicity will hurt them both, it shows maturity in the man.
01:26:25.000 Love is freedom.
01:26:27.000 Okay.
01:26:27.000 Being able to walk away.
01:26:29.000 Sentience.
01:26:29.000 Oh.
01:26:31.000 Welcome back, my friend.
01:26:32.000 Yeah, welcome back.
01:26:33.000 Where you been, man?
01:26:34.000 He'd been to other places.
01:26:35.000 Other places?
01:26:36.000 Other podcasts.
01:26:36.000 Okay, Lestini, you said love is an obligation to your partner while also saying if someone is bored in said relationship, they should walk away.
01:26:42.000 So which is it?
01:26:43.000 Good point.
01:26:44.000 That's what I was trying to say earlier.
01:26:45.000 That's a good point.
01:26:45.000 That's not a good point.
01:26:46.000 So which is it?
01:26:47.000 Is it an obligation or a whimsical feeling?
01:26:48.000 Talking quickly doesn't make you intelligent.
01:26:50.000 It makes you a charlatan.
01:26:51.000 Oh, sorry.
01:26:51.000 I'll talk slower for this guy, okay?
01:26:53.000 I see the $100 probably came from some social services fun farm, okay?
01:26:56.000 He's a doctor!
01:26:57.000 Listen, okay?
01:26:58.000 Yeah, I doubt it.
01:26:58.000 Okay.
01:27:00.000 Okay.
01:27:00.000 Unless he's got a PhD in gender studies for red pillology.
01:27:03.000 Okay, listen.
01:27:05.000 Love is an obligation in that if you're trying to build a good relationship with somebody, there's a lot of problems that you have to work through.
01:27:10.000 But that doesn't mean that you're obligated to stay through everything forever if the relationship is not working.
01:27:15.000 Your obligation is to make the relationship work in whatever way you can.
01:27:18.000 But if it can't, at some point you just have to walk away.
01:27:20.000 So is boredom a valid reason to leave a marriage?
01:27:21.000 It depends on what we mean by boredom.
01:27:23.000 If boredom is like both partners don't like to see each other or do anything with each other, If they don't like to see each other do anything with each other, then yeah, that's a valid reason to break up.
01:27:31.000 Why would you want to be bored with somebody?
01:27:32.000 Why would you want to be in a relationship like that?
01:27:34.000 So how is it an obligation if you can leave when you're bored?
01:27:36.000 The obligation isn't to stay no matter what.
01:27:39.000 It is.
01:27:40.000 It says, till death do us part within marriage.
01:27:42.000 That's the whole creed of marriage.
01:27:44.000 If you leave because you feel like it, why are you getting married?
01:27:46.000 Boredom is a terrible reason to get divorced.
01:27:47.000 Okay, you guys sound like you're...
01:27:49.000 That goes against the whole vow of marriage.
01:27:52.000 We're not looking at marital vows in terms of how to rent.
01:27:54.000 You guys pick and choose your How would you feel if your girl was like, you know what?
01:27:59.000 I'm bored.
01:28:00.000 Bye.
01:28:01.000 If my girl was bored of my relationship, yeah, I'd feel bad.
01:28:03.000 I'd try to do something to alleviate it.
01:28:05.000 But if I can't, then yeah, of course, I'd expect this to break up.
01:28:07.000 Why would I want to be with somebody who's bored with me?
01:28:08.000 But that means, just because she feels bored, she can leave at any point in time, and you're going to be on a hook.
01:28:12.000 Yeah, we live in a society where both people can walk away at any point in time.
01:28:15.000 It's called not having fucking slavery, okay?
01:28:17.000 Yeah, but you're on the hook, though.
01:28:18.000 She's not.
01:28:18.000 Well, it depends on if you've got kids and whatnot, yeah.
01:28:21.000 It seems like there's no reason that you got married, then.
01:28:25.000 If there's no obligation besides like, if something really happened, if there's some terrible infidelity, or you beat her, or like she's extremely depressed, but boredom is a terrible reason to end a marriage.
01:28:35.000 Is it a good reason to end a relationship?
01:28:37.000 A relationship is more lenient, yeah.
01:28:39.000 Okay, you guys are on some other shit.
01:28:40.000 I personally don't give a fuck about marriage.
01:28:42.000 What?
01:28:43.000 Yeah, I'm not like, I think it's a piece of paper to me, right?
01:28:45.000 So why did you get married?
01:28:46.000 Because she, how else is she gonna get in the country?
01:28:48.000 She's Swedish.
01:28:49.000 If we're not married, we can't live together.
01:28:51.000 See, it benefited her, but not you.
01:28:52.000 Well, it benefited me because I get to live with my wife.
01:28:55.000 Sorry, I had a fresh moment there.
01:28:56.000 Okay.
01:28:58.000 It's a benefit to me, okay?
01:29:00.000 But yeah, if you want to get married to make it official, there's some financial benefits as well, arguably, when it comes to filing taxes.
01:29:07.000 For her.
01:29:07.000 Miniscule, though.
01:29:08.000 For both people, mainly for the men, actually.
01:29:09.000 There's no benefits of marriage for men.
01:29:10.000 There absolutely is.
01:29:11.000 It's a tax benefit.
01:29:11.000 Miniscule.
01:29:13.000 The risk that you're taking to get that small tax benefit is not worth it.
01:29:17.000 There's a risk in everything you do in life.
01:29:19.000 There's a risk in relationships.
01:29:20.000 Of course, but in that situation, the risks from divorce...
01:29:24.000 Far outweigh the tax benefits.
01:29:26.000 Okay, are you just going to tell men to buy some real estate?
01:29:28.000 Do you understand that there's like common law marriage in like 24 fucking states too?
01:29:31.000 So you're telling men don't live with your significant others either?
01:29:33.000 No, yes.
01:29:33.000 Don't.
01:29:33.000 We tell guys don't get married and don't live with your girl.
01:29:36.000 What kind of relationships are you guys even talking about then?
01:29:39.000 She lives somewhere else, you live somewhere else.
01:29:41.000 Yeah, they come together every now and then.
01:29:42.000 We'll do a sleepover.
01:29:43.000 Don't live with a girl, bro.
01:29:43.000 Good to see you.
01:29:44.000 You go back home with your girlfriend.
01:29:47.000 Bro, again, we're talking from a defensive standpoint to protect the guy.
01:29:50.000 Like, don't live with the girl, don't get married.
01:29:52.000 Absolutely, yeah.
01:29:53.000 And here's the other reason why it's bad.
01:29:55.000 I don't suggest guys live with girls.
01:29:56.000 Like, number one, that mystery is gone.
01:29:58.000 Number two, you're gonna get softened up living with your girl because she's gonna be like, oh, hang out with me, I have ice cream, all this other bullshit.
01:30:04.000 Like, nah, man, you need to be by yourself or live with other guys that got their shit together so you stay sharp.
01:30:08.000 Yep.
01:30:09.000 You're living with the bro squad.
01:30:11.000 Or live by yourself.
01:30:11.000 Is that so you guys can have the keys to your chastity cages while you're all bunking together?
01:30:15.000 Can you give me the key tonight?
01:30:17.000 Like, I want to go fuck somebody?
01:30:18.000 Like, yeah, but I'm going to tape the condom on your little peepee before you do that.
01:30:20.000 Here's the thing, because men are inherently competitive.
01:30:21.000 You can't make gay jokes if you're bisexual.
01:30:23.000 You can't make gay jokes.
01:30:24.000 I can make gay jokes because I'm bisexual.
01:30:25.000 It makes it extra okay.
01:30:26.000 I'm not even gay enough to live with other guys.
01:30:28.000 You're calling it gay if men who are friends or if I live with my brother, then that's gay.
01:30:33.000 That sounds like the gayest shit in the world.
01:30:35.000 You actually are gay if you live with your wife.
01:30:38.000 What you're saying does not apply.
01:30:41.000 The guys on Grindr on average are less gay than guys who are like, I don't live with my significant other 10 years because I'm shacked up with bros that are high-value men so we can fucking slap each other's dicks on the way in and out of the bathroom while we help each other with our high-value lifestyle.
01:30:52.000 That sounds like the gayest shit in the world.
01:30:53.000 Here's the thing.
01:30:54.000 I didn't say...
01:30:55.000 Like, you need to live with other guys.
01:30:56.000 What I'm saying is that it's better to either live with other dudes or live by yourself.
01:30:59.000 But don't live with your girls is my main point.
01:31:01.000 That's the takeaway.
01:31:02.000 Okay.
01:31:02.000 Don't live with your girls.
01:31:03.000 Do you guys like living with women?
01:31:05.000 No.
01:31:06.000 No.
01:31:07.000 Once in a while, I'll see you like once a month or like once a week or something like that, but absolutely not.
01:31:11.000 Do you guys not like your partners?
01:31:13.000 No, it's just that living with a girl softens you up, bro.
01:31:15.000 They become insufferable.
01:31:16.000 But as a man, that environment is not healthy long term.
01:31:20.000 Absolutely not.
01:31:21.000 That's all we're saying.
01:31:22.000 You know what the Quran says?
01:31:25.000 You should just avoid your wives when they're on their periods.
01:31:28.000 Don't even see them.
01:31:29.000 Just be away from them.
01:31:31.000 You shouldn't be around your woman.
01:31:33.000 I'm like, yeah, exactly.
01:31:34.000 This is exactly what I was looking for.
01:31:36.000 It solves all the problems.
01:31:37.000 Why would you want to be with her all the time?
01:31:38.000 She's always emotional.
01:31:39.000 She's always going to have a problem.
01:31:40.000 She's going to want to put her legs on your legs while you're just chilling.
01:31:43.000 You're just telling me you hate women.
01:31:45.000 No, they're great sometimes, and then they get too much, and then go away.
01:31:49.000 You could handle being with a woman all the time, but you could handle living with several high-value men at the same time.
01:31:53.000 That sounds way more enjoyable.
01:31:56.000 I'm just saying it sounds a little gay.
01:31:58.000 Well, no, because you'll have more similarities with them.
01:32:01.000 Going to the gym, making money, discussing fucking getting better.
01:32:05.000 The only people that call that gay are actual gay people.
01:32:10.000 Okay.
01:32:10.000 Like, men understand that.
01:32:11.000 Like, why would I want to live with a chick all the time?
01:32:13.000 Is she gonna be nagging?
01:32:14.000 But, like, a dude who actually sucks dick is calling a gay if I live with another guy.
01:32:18.000 Yeah, that sounds super...
01:32:19.000 I wouldn't even want to be a red man that much, but...
01:32:21.000 Clearly you do!
01:32:23.000 I don't live with a man, though.
01:32:24.000 I live with a woman.
01:32:25.000 Alright, let's move on, man.
01:32:27.000 Where are we at here?
01:32:28.000 We'll get off Twitter and Facebook.
01:32:31.000 Come on over to YouTube and Rumble, Ninjas.
01:32:33.000 And also, we've got Rollo joining us shortly.
01:32:35.000 Oh, Rollo's here!
01:32:36.000 Oh, he's already here.
01:32:36.000 Oh, shit.
01:32:37.000 Okay.
01:32:38.000 Do we have anything else more we read before we bring Rollo on?
01:32:40.000 Let me finish the season and we'll bring Rollo on.
01:32:42.000 Destiny, when I was 28, I dated a woman seven years older than me.
01:32:45.000 She got triggered one day when I was listening to my favorite rock band because her ex liked the same music.
01:32:49.000 That's part of the baggage older women come with.
01:32:51.000 No thanks, never again.
01:32:52.000 Okay.
01:32:53.000 Angel.
01:32:54.000 D, there is a large number of women on social media promoting starter husband culture.
01:32:59.000 It's all over TikTok and feminist blogs.
01:33:01.000 Divorce is planned before the wedding.
01:33:02.000 Why do women get crappy about prenups if it's for love?
01:33:06.000 Till death do us part.
01:33:07.000 See?
01:33:07.000 Yeah, women don't.
01:33:08.000 Yeah.
01:33:09.000 They don't care, bro.
01:33:09.000 If they don't feel a certain way, they're going to divorce.
01:33:11.000 That's why they initiate it.
01:33:13.000 So Fraz Zaman goes, how can Desi talk about relationships when he has an open relationship while he is married?
01:33:16.000 So ask him who initiated an open relationship.
01:33:18.000 If he says it's him, we all know it's Cap.
01:33:20.000 I mean, we started a relationship open.
01:33:22.000 The whole point is, I like to fuck around.
01:33:24.000 I'm never going to date somebody that's in a close relationship.
01:33:25.000 That's my choice.
01:33:26.000 But if you think it's Cap, then you can think it's Cap.
01:33:28.000 I don't give a fuck.
01:33:28.000 I don't need a ton of people.
01:33:29.000 Well, he's asking who initiated it, you or your girl.
01:33:31.000 We started it open.
01:33:32.000 No, no, no.
01:33:33.000 But someone had to initiate it.
01:33:33.000 He said, hey, I want this first.
01:33:37.000 It started that way.
01:33:38.000 She's had a mainstream.
01:33:38.000 She's always been open.
01:33:39.000 She's always done open relationships, and I've unfortunately cheated in relationships.
01:33:42.000 So if I was ever going to date somebody again, it could never be a close thing.
01:33:44.000 So I found her.
01:33:45.000 She does open relationships, and she introduced me to the concept.
01:33:47.000 She's like, oh yeah, sometimes I fuck around, and even though I'm dating, I'm like, oh, that sounds fucking awesome.
01:33:51.000 So he followed her protocol.
01:33:52.000 She took the leader.
01:33:53.000 She was the masculine role on that.
01:33:55.000 Okay.
01:34:05.000 Yeah, I mean...
01:34:13.000 I mean, that's the one thing I disagree with Destiny on.
01:34:15.000 I think that divorce significantly hurts men more than women.
01:34:19.000 I mean, Destiny disagrees, but that's fine.
01:34:21.000 But that's fine.
01:34:22.000 We'll keep going.
01:34:23.000 Taylor.
01:34:24.000 Destiny, if women initiate 80% of divorce but fare worse after, are they acting against their best interest by getting a divorce?
01:34:30.000 If so, why?
01:34:31.000 There's a difference between faring worse after divorce and faring worse as a result of the divorce.
01:34:35.000 Hmm.
01:34:36.000 Yeah, you guys just don't think about, like, relationships at all.
01:34:38.000 Like, it's not just about the numbers for people.
01:34:40.000 Like, some people are unhappy in their relationships, so they leave.
01:34:42.000 But I think you guys just don't compute that at all.
01:34:44.000 It's all about, like, numbers and game and red pill and, like, some people just are miserable in their relationships and they leave.
01:34:48.000 They divorce.
01:34:49.000 I'm just saying, my stance was simply this.
01:34:52.000 Women fare better after divorce than men do.
01:34:54.000 You don't agree.
01:34:55.000 That's fine.
01:34:56.000 I think when you look at it from the totality of the circumstances, from a financial standpoint, from having other prospects, from being able to get back into the sexual marketplace in an advantageous position, I think women have a better ability to do that post-divorce than men do.
01:35:09.000 That's my argument.
01:35:10.000 I understand.
01:35:11.000 I disagree.
01:35:11.000 Eight times more likely to self-delete.
01:35:13.000 That's fine.
01:35:14.000 And I think that's the beauty of this is that we can agree.
01:35:17.000 That's my stance.
01:35:17.000 You disagree.
01:35:18.000 That's fine.
01:35:19.000 Emmanuel Cephas goes, I want to give a special thanks to Myron for helping me find my purpose currently pursuing a career in federal law enforcement.
01:35:25.000 I will make it my mission to find a way to put Sneeko in federal prison when I get that badge.
01:35:28.000 You're not going to catch me, bro.
01:35:30.000 You're not going to catch me.
01:35:32.000 For what, though?
01:35:34.000 What did I do?
01:35:35.000 I don't know.
01:35:36.000 Our relationship starts with sex now, so if you have more opportunities to have sex You have opportunities for dating, but for women, it probably won't be their first choice.
01:35:45.000 Okay, I get what you're saying.
01:35:46.000 They get more opportunities significantly, which means they have more ability to find a guy in all those opportunities for a real relationship.
01:35:52.000 Okay.
01:35:53.000 Okay, we'll bring Rolo in right now.
01:35:55.000 Shout out to Rolo Tomasi.
01:35:55.000 Shout out to Rolo in the building.
01:35:56.000 And then, guys, from this point forward, I'm only going to read 50 and up because we already got 22K watching right now.
01:36:01.000 So number one before we bring Rolo in...
01:36:02.000 Go subscribe to Sneeko on Rumble.
01:36:04.000 Rumble.com slash Sneeko.
01:36:05.000 Go subscribe to Destiny also on Rumble.
01:36:07.000 And he's on YouTube.
01:36:07.000 Get the book.
01:36:09.000 And go get the Rational Mail too, man!
01:36:12.000 And join the CEO of Network, man.
01:36:13.000 That's the value.
01:36:14.000 I just want to say, if you guys are serious about selling the book, you really should have did the audiobook version with Fresh Reading It.
01:36:19.000 I would buy that.
01:36:21.000 And it has to be a special edition filmed in one take.
01:36:26.000 Oh, but that would be really bad.
01:36:27.000 One take, no edits.
01:36:29.000 Let's go ahead and bring Rolo Tomasi on.
01:36:31.000 Shout out to Rolo.
01:36:32.000 Can I hear you okay?
01:36:33.000 What up, man?
01:36:34.000 Yeah, we got you.
01:36:35.000 Okay, okay.
01:36:36.000 So let me explain a few things here.
01:36:38.000 I wasn't able to do this the last time you guys were talking about this, but...
01:36:41.000 So, about, gosh, is it now two weeks ago?
01:36:44.000 I think it was Tuesday of last week, you guys had Brandon Carter on.
01:36:48.000 Is that with Derek Moneyberg?
01:36:50.000 Or is that Monday?
01:36:52.000 Monday.
01:36:53.000 Sorry, let me get my camera.
01:36:55.000 So, Monday, you guys were talking to Brandon Carter.
01:36:58.000 One of the things that Brandon was talking about was, you gotta love money.
01:37:02.000 You gotta be on top of your game.
01:37:03.000 And I love Brandon Carter, by the way.
01:37:05.000 I think he should be a stand-up comedian.
01:37:09.000 I mean, the guy is that funny.
01:37:10.000 He's a great guy, right?
01:37:11.000 But when you guys are on that show, and you're talking to him, and he's talking about how he doesn't go to Publix, doesn't go grocery shopping for himself, he doesn't go do his own laundry, he doesn't have a car.
01:37:23.000 I mean, it's Brickle White, right?
01:37:25.000 But he doesn't have some basic stuff because his philosophy in life is this, is that anything that takes him away from his grind, anything that takes him away from anything that would distract him or that would be financially or mathematically not a pragmatic choice for him to make as far as if he's spending time going grocery shopping or going and getting food for himself or whatever else.
01:37:50.000 I'm sure he's into meal prep and everything else.
01:37:52.000 Pretty much everything in his life is outsourced because anything that he would be spending that time himself to go do, he could be losing money doing that at that time.
01:38:04.000 When I was listening to this, and I was thinking about this myself because I was actually at the same time helping a friend move and all this, I'm thinking about this.
01:38:14.000 I'm going, you know what?
01:38:15.000 If you want to be a high-value man, if you want to get to that apex level as fast as you can, how is that not the best way to go about it?
01:38:24.000 The point of that whole tweet, which was basically a throwaway tweet that everyone started snowballing into something else.
01:38:32.000 I've got Ben Shapiro coming at me.
01:38:34.000 I got Matt Walsh coming at me.
01:38:35.000 I got Lauren Chen coming at me.
01:38:37.000 I got all these people off of Daily Wire because it was just easy, low-hanging fruit for these guys because they think that that's what the fucking manosphere is all about.
01:38:44.000 And it's not, okay?
01:38:46.000 That was not fucking advice.
01:38:47.000 Everything that is on Twitter is not advice, okay?
01:38:50.000 Was that a joke?
01:38:51.000 No, it was not to say a joke, but it's like, let's just say it's a hypothetical, okay?
01:38:56.000 It's showing you...
01:38:57.000 Now, let's just fuck up for just fucking five seconds, okay?
01:39:00.000 There's no fucking joke here, because everything that's come out of all of you guys' mouth has been nothing but distraction and misdirection, because it's easy fucking clicks for you.
01:39:09.000 So here's the whole thing.
01:39:11.000 When I'm talking about get a vasectomy, or don't be concerned with...
01:39:16.000 When he's mad, his glasses get uneven on his nose, you see?
01:39:19.000 Okay, really?
01:39:20.000 I'm really mad about this, bro.
01:39:21.000 Shall we keep going?
01:39:23.000 Are we just going to have jokes thrown in here?
01:39:25.000 Is that what I get to do?
01:39:30.000 Okay, so here's the deal.
01:39:31.000 When I'm talking about this, when I'm throwing this out there, why wouldn't you do that?
01:39:36.000 Would you not have been more successful, Sneeko, had you not had to go through certain things?
01:39:40.000 If you had a kid, you would be playing the game with a handicap.
01:39:45.000 You'd be playing the game with your fucking hands tied behind your back.
01:39:49.000 There are guys right now who I have a lot of respect for, and I'm sure you have a lot of respect for as well.
01:39:56.000 Who all have kids, but you know what they try to do?
01:39:58.000 Try to keep it under wraps.
01:40:00.000 Nobody knows about the fucking kids.
01:40:03.000 First off, this is not fucking advice.
01:40:06.000 Everything that is on my show or is on Twitter is not automatically advice.
01:40:11.000 But here's the thing.
01:40:13.000 I know what you're going to say, because here's the deal.
01:40:15.000 When I was on whatever podcast I was telling this, I was saying exactly the same thing here.
01:40:20.000 Everything that comes out of somebody's mouth on Instagram or on Twitter or on YouTube, there's no way you can't go on there without somebody going, this is what these guys are saying to do.
01:40:30.000 Because if you have this set automatically, that if it comes out of your mouth, it's automatically advice.
01:40:35.000 It can't just be data.
01:40:37.000 It can't just be statistics.
01:40:38.000 It can't be nothing can be just delivered.
01:40:41.000 Here's some data for you to look at.
01:40:43.000 Nothing can be given to you without somebody going, well, the reason why you're telling me this is because you're telling me that this is the best way to live my life.
01:40:53.000 So when I'm watching Brendan Carter and I'm watching all this going on, and I'm looking at guys that I know and guys that you know as well, And when these are the guys who are like saying, you know, be on your game, do this, do that.
01:41:05.000 They're the ones that are giving this advice.
01:41:07.000 All I'm doing is saying, hey, look, maybe you should not focus on family.
01:41:11.000 Maybe you should not get married.
01:41:12.000 I mean, that's I don't know why that's big advice.
01:41:15.000 I'm not saying it's I'm not saying it's advice.
01:41:18.000 What I'm saying is that is over the fucking top that everybody wants to take it out of out of context, which is exactly what you guys have been doing.
01:41:26.000 Can you tell me what that tweet was if it wasn't advice?
01:41:29.000 It's not advice.
01:41:30.000 What it is, it's saying that this is the most extreme way to do things, okay?
01:41:35.000 Here's the quickest path to, if I told you this, look, if I said the quickest way for you to make a million dollars is to go steal it from the bank or go to steal it, does that mean I'm telling you to go steal it?
01:41:51.000 If I tell you to go fucking jump off a cliff, are you going to go jump off a cliff?
01:41:55.000 By the way, here's the other thing.
01:41:57.000 I'm also responding to Dr.
01:41:59.000 Richard Reeves in this as well.
01:42:00.000 Okay, there's a lot of context about it, sure.
01:42:02.000 But all the rest of the list, you're equating vasectomy to lifting, game, play to your strength, resisting up on easing your focus.
01:42:10.000 The rest of it sounds like general advice.
01:42:12.000 Let me ask you, is it the vasectomy part that's throwing you off?
01:42:17.000 Genuine good advice, right?
01:42:19.000 Is it the vasectomy part?
01:42:23.000 Do you agree with pretty much everything else except for the vasectomy part?
01:42:27.000 The first three is weird because then I don't even know what the red pill idea of a high-value man is.
01:42:32.000 Is it just being rich?
01:42:33.000 What's the point of having all this money and not having a family?
01:42:36.000 Why be that rich?
01:42:37.000 The guy who's always grinding.
01:42:38.000 Whoa, Brandon Carter doesn't have to do his laundry.
01:42:40.000 Sick.
01:42:40.000 What else are you going to do with your life?
01:42:42.000 Right.
01:42:42.000 Right.
01:42:43.000 Maybe this is actually meant so that you'll get it.
01:42:46.000 You'll have a freaking epiphany about how all the shit that you have to sacrifice to get to that in the first place.
01:42:52.000 What are you willing to sacrifice?
01:42:54.000 Are you willing to live the kind of life, let's say, like a Brandon Carter is where you're going to outsource your entire life?
01:43:00.000 Or are you going to actually...
01:43:02.000 Is that something that's a priority for you?
01:43:05.000 Because I'll tell you right now that if you do, if you follow this kind of, if you were to actually follow this list right here, that is the fastest way for you to get to a point where you are more high value, right?
01:43:17.000 So here's the thing.
01:43:17.000 So when I say that, people go, well, that's not what a high value man is.
01:43:21.000 A high-value man is what I define it as, which is he's got to have a good, loving, devoted wife.
01:43:26.000 He's got to have three or four kids or ten kids, depending on whatever culture you're talking about.
01:43:31.000 All this stuff that makes up whatever that person who happens to have that is, then that's suddenly the definition of what a high-value man is.
01:43:39.000 So what I'm saying, I'm saying this is the best way to become a high-value man.
01:43:42.000 I'm not saying this is the only way to become a high-value man.
01:43:45.000 I'm just saying that this is the fastest way to go and do something like that.
01:43:48.000 We've been talking a lot for five minutes.
01:43:49.000 What is your definition of a high-value man?
01:43:52.000 It doesn't matter.
01:43:53.000 That's not what I was talking about in this.
01:43:55.000 That's not what you're talking about.
01:43:56.000 That's what the first part of the tweet is.
01:43:58.000 How to become a high-value man.
01:43:59.000 The fastest way to become a high-value man is to recognize the fact that you've got sacrifices to make.
01:44:07.000 Okay?
01:44:08.000 It's like Grandpa telling stories from Vietnam.
01:44:10.000 Just say, what is a high-value man?
01:44:11.000 It's the first part of the tweet.
01:44:12.000 What does that mean?
01:44:12.000 You tell me what a high-value man is.
01:44:15.000 It doesn't matter what I'm going to say is a high-value man.
01:44:18.000 Because it's your fucking tweet.
01:44:22.000 It doesn't matter what I say as a fucking high-value man, because everybody takes this.
01:44:27.000 The point of the fucking tweet is that everybody is going to take this and then insert their own definition of what a fucking high-value man is.
01:44:35.000 That's the bait.
01:44:38.000 Then your tweet doesn't work, does it?
01:44:40.000 What if your definition of a high-value man is getting into a trade and having five kids by the time you're 22?
01:44:44.000 What if your high-value man is being an esports professional?
01:44:48.000 You're absolutely making my point for me right here, okay?
01:44:50.000 This is what I'm saying.
01:44:52.000 My point is that high-value man, you gave a list of eight things.
01:44:55.000 Do these eight things to become a high-value man.
01:44:57.000 Do one through eight to become A. And you're not defining what A is.
01:45:00.000 The fastest way to becoming a high-value man is these two ways.
01:45:05.000 What is that?
01:45:06.000 So here's the thing.
01:45:07.000 So if we're talking about family creation...
01:45:09.000 Okay, let's go one by one.
01:45:12.000 You want to go one by one?
01:45:13.000 No, I want to go before one by one.
01:45:15.000 What is a high-value man?
01:45:16.000 We can't have an argument if I don't even know...
01:45:19.000 The very fact that you're even asking this in the first place is the actual point of the fucking tweet, okay?
01:45:25.000 So if you're going to be a high-value man with the fucking hands tied behind your back, then what does that mean to you?
01:45:32.000 That's the point.
01:45:33.000 This whole discussion is the point of the fucking tweet.
01:45:36.000 One of the tweet was, you've got some conception of a high value man, here are eight points that you think you need to do to get to it, and now you're getting blown the fuck up on the vasectomy thing, which you probably realize is fucking retarded, but you're too old and stubborn to walk back from it.
01:45:46.000 That's the point of this conversation.
01:45:47.000 I'm not too stubborn to fucking walk back from it because the point of it was to get douche nozzles like yourself to fucking have this conversation in the first place.
01:45:55.000 How old are you, bro?
01:45:57.000 Douche nozzles?
01:45:58.000 Yes.
01:45:59.000 You guys are fucking idiots.
01:46:01.000 Why do you guys come in here from fucking Twitch stream?
01:46:03.000 Like how you guys are legitimate in all of this?
01:46:05.000 I don't know because everything I hear come out of you guys' mouth is just fucking confident ignorance.
01:46:11.000 No, no, no, no.
01:46:11.000 Myron, Myron.
01:46:12.000 Okay, I'm not asking you like in terms of the debate.
01:46:14.000 You call yourself the godfather of the red pill.
01:46:16.000 You call myself the godfather of the manosphere, okay?
01:46:19.000 Other people have called me that.
01:46:20.000 Okay, great.
01:46:21.000 Do you understand?
01:46:23.000 Okay, so as that...
01:46:25.000 The grandfather or grandfather of the man, which one is it?
01:46:26.000 Whatever it is, the old guy of the manosphere.
01:46:28.000 What is your definition of high-value man?
01:46:30.000 This is the number one talked-about topic on all of these shows, so I want to get a clear definition from you.
01:46:35.000 What is it?
01:46:37.000 Again, it depends on the person.
01:46:40.000 It depends on the culture.
01:46:42.000 So here's the thing.
01:46:43.000 Maybe I can explain this to you, Sneeko, because at least you got your ears open here.
01:46:47.000 The thing is that when we're talking about what's the top G, what's a high-value guy, you probably haven't heard this because you don't read my stuff and you don't watch my shit.
01:46:56.000 But I've also said this.
01:46:57.000 The red pill has to be for everybody or it's for nobody.
01:47:01.000 So if we're looking at a guy who's draped across a Lamborghini and he's got hot chicks with him and we say, that's what I'm aspiring to, but I'll never make that because I live in a fucking fishing village on the coast of Chile, right?
01:47:12.000 That means I can never match that high apex of a high pill.
01:47:18.000 The guy in the car?
01:47:19.000 Yeah.
01:47:19.000 But the guy who happens to live in those villages or happens to be in a different culture or in a different country or whatever else, he can still benefit from that because however he's defining himself as a high-value man in his fishing village, maybe that's what he can aspire to.
01:47:34.000 It has nothing to do with Chile and the village and the car.
01:47:36.000 See, here's the thing.
01:47:37.000 You guys want me to say, okay, a high-value man makes $100,000 a year.
01:47:42.000 He's fucked 50 chicks.
01:47:44.000 That's the thing.
01:47:45.000 That's not what I want you to say.
01:47:46.000 I disagree with that.
01:47:49.000 What I'm saying is the point of the tweet is so you'll ask that question.
01:47:54.000 I'm past the tweet.
01:47:54.000 I'm past that.
01:47:56.000 Look, I'm asking as somebody who's really interested in the red pill.
01:47:58.000 I listen to a lot of this content.
01:48:00.000 I want to know what your definition is because if you have a definition that's completely off of what I think it is, then I guess I'm not red pill.
01:48:06.000 Well, here's what I think guys ought to do.
01:48:10.000 Would you like me to give you some prescriptions?
01:48:11.000 Is that what we're trying for here?
01:48:13.000 I want to know your opinion of a high-value man.
01:48:15.000 What is it?
01:48:16.000 I think a high-value man is whatever is contextually makes that guy a high-value guy in whatever culture that he happens to be in.
01:48:23.000 If that's money, that's money.
01:48:24.000 Right now, that's what we tend to focus on right now.
01:48:27.000 If I'm going to say that...
01:48:29.000 A high-value man is a guy that has the things that makes him a high-value man.
01:48:31.000 All right, let me make you a high-value man.
01:48:34.000 Okay, what is that?
01:48:36.000 We're trying to define it.
01:48:39.000 Because here's the thing.
01:48:41.000 When I read the tweet, I interpreted it, right, like, he's listing things that if you follow these things, right, and you actually follow them, you're probably not going to become a fuck-up, right?
01:48:50.000 And to be a high-value guy, I would say it's a couple combination of things.
01:48:52.000 Yeah.
01:48:53.000 Obviously, having your money on point, having social proof and status, having respect from your peers, having a network of other high-value men, which I agree with Kevin Samuels on that, being fit to a degree.
01:49:01.000 If you have all these things in place, you'll be considered a high-value man by most people in most societies, if you have these things in place.
01:49:07.000 Now, with that said, to get there...
01:49:09.000 Right?
01:49:09.000 You obviously have to focus and get your shit together and make sure that you focus on getting there.
01:49:13.000 What he's saying is all these, the list of things that he mentioned, if you follow them, it's going to mitigate your risk of becoming a fuck up and not getting to that point as quickly as possible.
01:49:23.000 And I think that's so important is that this tweet kind of gets taken out of context.
01:49:25.000 He's saying the quickest way to become a high value man, avoid and do these things because you're limiting distractions.
01:49:31.000 And he's using Brandon Carter as an example where he's in a monogamous relationship with a girl.
01:49:35.000 He outsourced a lot of his things.
01:49:36.000 Why?
01:49:36.000 So he's able to focus on making more money.
01:49:38.000 He's getting rid of obstacles.
01:49:39.000 And I think that tweet demonstrates that.
01:49:41.000 He's getting rid of obstacles so you can become a high value man in the quickest possible way.
01:49:45.000 Now, I know the most controversial one is the vasectomy.
01:49:48.000 Though, there's other ways to get the same, I guess, effect from vasectomy.
01:49:51.000 Let's say you use a condom.
01:49:52.000 Let's say you pull out whatever it may be.
01:49:54.000 He's saying, okay, if you get the vasectomy, then we know for a fact they're not going to have children.
01:49:59.000 Yeah.
01:49:59.000 It's really no different than having a condom or pulling out or whatever it may be.
01:50:02.000 The point is to not get a girl pregnant.
01:50:04.000 How you want to get there is up to you, whether it's through a vasectomy, using condoms, whatever.
01:50:07.000 But he's making it retard-proof.
01:50:08.000 Hey, vasectomy, because I know even if you are the dumbest guy ever, you can't fuck this up.
01:50:12.000 I don't think a retarded guy could be a high-value guy.
01:50:15.000 No, when I say retarded, I mean as in stupid.
01:50:17.000 But what I'm saying is that the point I'm trying to make is this list...
01:50:21.000 Is the foolproof way, if everything is followed, for you to get your status up as quickly as possible in your 20s.
01:50:27.000 That's not what the list is, though.
01:50:29.000 Because what you just said was advice, and he said it's clearly not advice, so.
01:50:31.000 You're interpreting a different way.
01:50:32.000 He said he's joking and he's trying to provoke people.
01:50:33.000 Yeah, he was just joking, like half of it was just for jokes.
01:50:35.000 But I'm telling you, I started out telling you guys how I interpreted that, right?
01:50:42.000 So that people can interpret it how they want to create discussion.
01:50:45.000 That's the point.
01:50:46.000 That's what he's saying.
01:50:47.000 He asked a question earlier.
01:50:48.000 Sir, you asked him a question, what is high value?
01:50:50.000 You answered it.
01:50:51.000 It's whatever you determine that to be.
01:50:52.000 No, that's bullshit.
01:50:53.000 None of you guys believe that.
01:50:54.000 If some guy comes on this show and he weighs 350 pounds and he says, I'm diamond one in League of Legends.
01:50:59.000 That's what I want to do with my life.
01:51:00.000 Would you go, well, that's what you really want.
01:51:01.000 You're high value.
01:51:02.000 You wouldn't say that.
01:51:03.000 No, but once again, it starts in the mind.
01:51:05.000 You're going to say, for example, oh, that's not true, which I agree is not true.
01:51:09.000 But ultimately, you as a man decide what's high value for you.
01:51:11.000 No, you don't!
01:51:12.000 Yes, you do.
01:51:13.000 Value is probably something that's determined by society.
01:51:15.000 High value?
01:51:16.000 Value means that you have a worth to other people.
01:51:19.000 You're just talking about being comfortable, having high self-esteem.
01:51:21.000 I agree, but the tweet...
01:51:22.000 Don't say you agree with me, I just said the total opposite that you just said.
01:51:25.000 No, no, no.
01:51:25.000 I agree on a point where, for example, people determine you as high value.
01:51:28.000 However, the tweet saying high value could mean, in your sense, whatever that means to you.
01:51:33.000 No, it doesn't.
01:51:33.000 What?
01:51:34.000 That's what he's saying!
01:51:34.000 No, he's not.
01:51:35.000 He doesn't know because he doesn't have a good definition because he knows if he says anything, he's going to get pinned down on it.
01:51:38.000 You sound like the girls who believe they're a 10 because they describe themselves as a 10 in the mirror.
01:51:42.000 If you brought in something, you're missing the point.
01:51:44.000 And he's like, I'm high value because I'm a manager at my McDonald's.
01:51:46.000 You probably wouldn't agree that he's high value.
01:51:48.000 The point is that when he says high value, you're going to determine that as a man.
01:51:51.000 What does that mean for you?
01:51:52.000 Success is a part of it, yes, but their success could be owning a farm or having a business.
01:51:57.000 It doesn't matter.
01:51:57.000 He's saying to get to that point, you need focus.
01:51:59.000 Ultimately, that's what he's saying.
01:52:01.000 Just be focused.
01:52:02.000 I mean, look, we make fun of the girls all the time for saying that they're 10 out of 10s.
01:52:06.000 All the time because they say it in their head, I believe I'm a 10 out of 10.
01:52:08.000 No, that's ridiculous because society determines how attractive you are.
01:52:13.000 Society determines how valuable you are.
01:52:14.000 You can't apply that a lot.
01:52:15.000 You can't make fun of the girl, the ugly fat whale who thinks she's a 10 girl boss queen, and then also say a high value man can believe it in his head.
01:52:24.000 Well, I gave you guys a 10.
01:52:26.000 You have a good definition.
01:52:27.000 You talked about being relatively fit, having a network of people that are very social.
01:52:31.000 Yeah, of course.
01:52:31.000 Because here's the thing.
01:52:33.000 For me, I will define it because that will allow you guys to see where I'm coming from when I'm interpreting the information.
01:52:37.000 Yeah, we know where you're coming from, but we have the tweet author here.
01:52:39.000 He doesn't know where he's coming from.
01:52:40.000 He seems a little lost right now, so we're trying to figure out what exactly he means.
01:52:43.000 But I think, again...
01:52:44.000 I think that's the important part of the tweet, is that it allows people to interpret it how they want, which is why we're talking about it right now.
01:52:52.000 I'm giving advice to people.
01:52:54.000 I don't want them to interpret it how they want.
01:52:55.000 Otherwise, what the fuck is the point of my message?
01:52:57.000 We're not giving advice to people.
01:53:00.000 That's the whole point of this.
01:53:04.000 It's impossible to put anything out there without people interpreting it.
01:53:11.000 Follow these fucking steps.
01:53:12.000 Here's your 12 rules for life and you're going to live a happy fucking life.
01:53:16.000 That's literally what your tweet was.
01:53:17.000 Do these things.
01:53:18.000 What is the wording of the tweet?
01:53:19.000 Go back to the tweet itself.
01:53:21.000 So in that wording, what's the last part of that?
01:53:26.000 What's the last one?
01:53:26.000 Resist easing up on your focus.
01:53:28.000 Do you want me to insert what you ought to be doing?
01:53:31.000 You ought to be coding.
01:53:32.000 Is that what I should say?
01:53:33.000 You ought to be becoming a professional athlete.
01:53:36.000 I don't know what your fucking strengths are.
01:53:38.000 You can simplify and say work hard.
01:53:40.000 Again, so here's the thing.
01:53:41.000 If I say, you know what, you ought to be an NBA player, and it doesn't matter if it's your 5'9", fucking stay on your focus, and you're going to be the best NBA player you can possibly be.
01:53:49.000 That would be terrible advice.
01:53:50.000 That would be absolutely terrible advice, because this is a fucking advice.
01:53:53.000 That's why, okay?
01:53:55.000 This is a list that is meant...
01:53:57.000 So you get an idea of what the fuck it is that you're going to do so that you can become that high-value man.
01:54:02.000 Protect yourself.
01:54:04.000 Don't get married.
01:54:05.000 Avoid family creation.
01:54:06.000 Again, this is over-the-top shit.
01:54:06.000 Vasectomy.
01:54:08.000 Anybody who knows anything about my material, when I throw this out there, they know this is over-the-top shit.
01:54:13.000 But beads of fucking fire for douche nozzles.
01:54:17.000 I don't want to be a douche nozzle, but what else?
01:54:21.000 Besides number three, what else here is over-the-top?
01:54:23.000 Besides vasectomy.
01:54:24.000 Oh, live consistently, okay?
01:54:25.000 Well, what if, like, some people say, well, that's vanity, right?
01:54:28.000 Mario, there's no way you agree with that, saying live consistently.
01:54:31.000 Well, actually, hold on, hold on.
01:54:32.000 For Rolo, it might be, okay?
01:54:33.000 To be fair.
01:54:34.000 Guys, see, here's the thing.
01:54:35.000 But you're missing, like, are you not hearing anything he's saying?
01:54:38.000 Like, do you need to blindly agree with him?
01:54:40.000 Because nothing he's saying is making any sense, bro.
01:54:42.000 It's not making any sense to you because you don't understand the fucking concept of the tweet.
01:54:45.000 That's why.
01:54:46.000 You can't even thoroughly understand what I... Okay, let me hold this up here.
01:54:50.000 Did you understand what I was saying about Brandon Carter?
01:54:52.000 Yeah, he doesn't do his laundry.
01:54:54.000 No, but he's taken everything to this extreme level.
01:54:57.000 To a lot of guys.
01:54:59.000 Okay, would you agree with me that Brandon Carter is a high-value guy?
01:55:03.000 Sure.
01:55:04.000 Okay, you know who wouldn't?
01:55:05.000 Ben Shapiro.
01:55:06.000 You know who wouldn't?
01:55:07.000 A lot of other people because they think that they're living out their own high-value ideal.
01:55:11.000 Do you understand that?
01:55:13.000 Context.
01:55:14.000 Like the 350-pound esports player is living out his ideal of a high-value man.
01:55:19.000 Whether or not that's working for him is irrelevant to the fucking tweet.
01:55:23.000 When I say, okay, when I'm talking about Brandon Carter, you say you understand that.
01:55:26.000 He's taking it to this extreme level.
01:55:30.000 What do you think Brandon Carter's definition of a high-value man is?
01:55:35.000 Probably the same as mine.
01:55:37.000 If you're determined by society, if you have respect from your community, then you are a high-value person if people respect you.
01:55:37.000 Which is?
01:55:44.000 So, being pro-social and having people like you and...
01:55:48.000 I know you don't agree with him because he's Daily Wire.
01:55:49.000 Ben Shapiro is definitely a high-value man.
01:55:51.000 Okay, but...
01:55:52.000 Okay, so let's just say for a second...
01:55:56.000 He does.
01:55:57.000 You don't think Ben Shapiro is a high-value man?
01:55:57.000 He said so.
01:55:59.000 Let's take for...
01:56:00.000 Do I think he is?
01:56:01.000 I don't think he's a high-value man.
01:56:03.000 What is his definition?
01:56:04.000 He owns his own business.
01:56:05.000 It's like one of the most successful alt-media platforms in the world.
01:56:07.000 He's married.
01:56:08.000 Right, right, right.
01:56:10.000 You know who else is not a high-value guy?
01:56:11.000 Elon Musk.
01:56:12.000 Let's see.
01:56:13.000 Jeff Bezos.
01:56:13.000 Who else?
01:56:15.000 All you got to do is just go...
01:56:16.000 All you have to do is look at the decisions they've made in their personal lives, okay?
01:56:19.000 How are we going to define that?
01:56:21.000 If I'm going to define that...
01:56:22.000 You haven't.
01:56:22.000 You're the only one here who hasn't defined it.
01:56:24.000 Because I'm not the one defining it for fucking Jeff Bezos.
01:56:28.000 I'm not the one defining it for fucking...
01:56:29.000 What's his name?
01:56:31.000 I think she's a 10 as long as that's how she defines beauty to herself.
01:56:36.000 You guys just defined Brandon Carter as a high-value guy, right?
01:56:42.000 Yeah.
01:56:43.000 Okay, so that fits your definition of a high-value guy, but I will tell you right now that that would not fit the same definition that, say, Ben Shapiro would have for a high-value guy because he doesn't have his babies on point.
01:56:53.000 He doesn't have this on point.
01:56:55.000 He's not going to a church or synagogue every day, right?
01:56:59.000 So to him, he's not necessarily a high-value guy.
01:57:02.000 I don't think a church or synagogue has to do with high value.
01:57:06.000 That's the way that other people would define it.
01:57:09.000 Is that true?
01:57:09.000 Exactly.
01:57:10.000 Value is not subjective.
01:57:12.000 When we talk about value, we're usually talking about some sort of exchange in a market.
01:57:16.000 Value is usually what are people willing to do or give for a certain thing.
01:57:19.000 It's not defined by this.
01:57:20.000 If one man is on an island with no value.
01:57:23.000 No, this one over your head.
01:57:24.000 It's the idea of being high value.
01:57:25.000 No, no, there is no idea of being high value.
01:57:27.000 And if it was anybody else on the show, you guys would be roasting the fuck out of them for saying that's your idea of being high value.
01:57:32.000 You would be roasting.
01:57:33.000 If any of the girls come here, because you do this to girls all the time, she goes, right, like, I think I'm a 10.
01:57:36.000 Because I'm so special and blah, blah, blah.
01:57:36.000 It's like, why?
01:57:38.000 You're not special.
01:57:39.000 I just gave you Brandon Carter as an example.
01:57:42.000 I just gave you Brandon Carter.
01:57:43.000 We can use any example, any single example you want.
01:57:46.000 You could be the 500 pound guy who just does esports or can be like Brandon Carter or the top G. Any one of those guys.
01:57:52.000 The thing still applies.
01:57:54.000 All right, look, look, look.
01:57:55.000 Are you better off without the instructions?
01:57:59.000 Are you better off without the bank?
01:58:02.000 Everyone here has kind of a different thing.
01:58:04.000 Like me, I've defined it.
01:58:05.000 This is what I think makes you high value.
01:58:07.000 You might have a different take on it.
01:58:08.000 You might have a different take on it.
01:58:10.000 I've defined it, and then I took my interpretation off.
01:58:12.000 What you said, if you want to get these things, and it makes sense to me, those things that you listed.
01:58:15.000 But I'm seeing here that everyone here kind of has a different interpretation.
01:58:19.000 All four of us probably roughly agree on what makes you high value.
01:58:19.000 Wait, that's not true.
01:58:22.000 No, we don't.
01:58:23.000 The three of us probably do.
01:58:24.000 Ben Shapiro said, you said they have high value.
01:58:27.000 Having some amount of physical fitness, we all agree that that's decently valuable, correct?
01:58:27.000 I don't think he is.
01:58:32.000 On some level, yeah.
01:58:33.000 Having some amount of social status, so you've got the attention of a lot of people and you're influential.
01:58:33.000 Okay.
01:58:38.000 We all agree on that, right?
01:58:39.000 Having some amount of financial success, right?
01:58:41.000 You have freedom to take off your family, retire if you want to, even at an early age.
01:58:44.000 We all agree with that, right?
01:58:45.000 Okay.
01:58:46.000 And having some level of success with your family and friends, right?
01:58:48.000 We all roughly agree on that, right?
01:58:50.000 If you have those four things in check, you're probably a high value man.
01:58:50.000 Okay.
01:58:53.000 No.
01:58:53.000 It's more than that.
01:58:54.000 See, here's what he's saying.
01:58:55.000 I can add more to it because for me, in my head, what I have value is is way more than that.
01:59:00.000 To you, that might be important, but to me, that's not everything.
01:59:02.000 What's a key component missing from what I said?
01:59:04.000 Is a high-value guy the guy that marries somebody from a foreign country and brings them over here so she can get citizenship?
01:59:09.000 Because that's your family dynamic.
01:59:12.000 My family dynamic is different than that.
01:59:13.000 Does that make me high-value or low-value?
01:59:15.000 Exactly.
01:59:16.000 It's going to depend on the person.
01:59:18.000 If I'm in a heterosexual marriage for 27 years and not in a polycule or some shit, it's like some people will say, you're high-value because you do that.
01:59:26.000 People will say, Rola, you can't be red pill because you're married.
01:59:29.000 You can't be married because you're red pill.
01:59:30.000 Okay?
01:59:31.000 And suddenly I'm blue pill because I'm actually in a relationship where it's like clothes on her end, clothes on her end, and clothes on my end.
01:59:38.000 But if I go and I talk to the top G or I talk to somebody who's like in an open relationship, is that guy high value because of that?
01:59:45.000 This is not a judgment call.
01:59:47.000 I'm just saying that the definition is going to be different.
01:59:50.000 Even if you have all those things, even each one of those things that you just mentioned, it's still subject to the context.
01:59:56.000 I agree with what you said, Destiny.
01:59:58.000 What I'm saying is that from within each one of those attributes, people are going to have something wildly different.
02:00:04.000 And you know what they're going to do?
02:00:05.000 They're going to use that for fucking blog fodder and topics to go and do quick hit videos on because they just want click-through rate for something like that.
02:00:13.000 What would we say about women?
02:00:15.000 If we say, what is a high-value woman?
02:00:18.000 You tell me, man.
02:00:19.000 It's like, again, this is the definition.
02:00:21.000 This is like your wheelhouse.
02:00:23.000 This is your chance to steamroll.
02:00:25.000 I don't think you understand why fucking wheelhouse is.
02:00:28.000 Quite honestly, I don't think you do.
02:00:30.000 Isn't that what you do?
02:00:31.000 Your name is the rational male.
02:00:32.000 Yeah, a high-value woman is.
02:00:34.000 I don't talk about high-value women, dude.
02:00:37.000 In fact, if anything, I say there's no such thing as a quality woman because it's an ideal that guys have in their heads.
02:00:42.000 There's no such thing as a quality woman?
02:00:44.000 No such thing as a quality woman because guys have this, the quality woman is an ideal, but we can talk about that when I get there.
02:00:51.000 But the thing is, is this, is like when you're building a relationship or when you have this idea in your head, you want to know why guys get into so much fucking trouble in their marriages?
02:00:58.000 It's because of that ideal.
02:01:00.000 Because every guy who ever got married thought that she was the best fucking thing in the world.
02:01:04.000 Otherwise, he wouldn't have got married to her.
02:01:06.000 And then Tilly gets across the divorce table from her.
02:01:08.000 Now she's a fucking evil man.
02:01:09.000 You genuinely don't think that there's quality women in the world?
02:01:13.000 I think that there are women who have different attributes than others that match very well with guys.
02:01:19.000 Sure, there are good cliques, of course.
02:01:22.000 But the thing is, the idea of the quality woman is an ideal that guys have that gets them into a lot of trouble.
02:01:28.000 That's why.
02:01:29.000 They're in love with the ideal, not the actual person.
02:01:31.000 There aren't high-value men, but there aren't high-value women.
02:01:34.000 There aren't high-value men and there aren't high-value women.
02:01:38.000 It just depends on who we're talking about.
02:01:42.000 I don't know what the hell he's talking about, bro.
02:01:45.000 I don't even know what the fuck we're talking about.
02:01:47.000 I feel like I need to do mushrooms before I come on this show.
02:01:49.000 That's what it feels like, the kind of conversation I'm having right now.
02:01:52.000 No, you know what it is, Destiny, is you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
02:01:56.000 I'm surprised because you write about this all the time.
02:01:58.000 You wrote a whole book about it.
02:01:59.000 People, they really respect it.
02:02:01.000 I have no idea.
02:02:02.000 You guys might be confused because I'm the one that says there's no such thing as a high-value woman.
02:02:05.000 A woman gets her value directly from a man that she gets in a relationship with.
02:02:10.000 Because all women have value, but not all men have value.
02:02:13.000 All women don't have the same value.
02:02:16.000 Don't even think about it.
02:02:17.000 You know that's not true.
02:02:18.000 If I give you a woman with 100 bodies and a woman with zero bodies, if I give you a woman that's 500 pounds, if I give you one with five kids, so...
02:02:22.000 Here's my thing.
02:02:22.000 Okay, here's my thing, because I've said this before.
02:02:25.000 I know men must become and women are.
02:02:27.000 I know you're about to do this.
02:02:27.000 But I'm just saying there are some women that are better than others.
02:02:30.000 Of course.
02:02:31.000 But all women have value to some level.
02:02:33.000 But not all men have value because men have to build their shit up.
02:02:35.000 So what I'm saying is that a high value woman gets her value from being with a high value man.
02:02:40.000 I don't even think that's true.
02:02:41.000 All men have value.
02:02:42.000 The metric of success for a female is being able to get the best man that they can get.
02:02:47.000 And men can build and do things.
02:02:48.000 In places like China, where you're limited to the men of children, what do they do?
02:02:51.000 They opt for boys.
02:02:52.000 Because they can go out and work and fucking get jobs and shit and do things around the fucking house or whatever.
02:02:57.000 Yeah, fucking 1980s.
02:03:00.000 The one-shot policy hasn't been around since the mid-90s, dude.
02:03:04.000 Sure, but when it was, it was grossly favoring the birth of boys.
02:03:07.000 Because you could do more with boys than you could with women.
02:03:09.000 That was a prescription.
02:03:11.000 And now they're facing the consequences of that.
02:03:14.000 Well, so is Japan.
02:03:15.000 That's a super homogenous...
02:03:17.000 Okay, you're using China, but let's be honest here.
02:03:19.000 Why does it say women and children off the boat first, not men?
02:03:22.000 Women have always had...
02:03:24.000 No, yeah, it's a chivalry thing, but why is that?
02:03:26.000 Because if you have 100 women and one guy, you can still continue society.
02:03:30.000 But if you have 100 men and one woman, we're fucked.
02:03:32.000 Women are the vulnerable sex and men are the disposable sex, that's why.
02:03:35.000 Women have value inherently.
02:03:36.000 So what I'm saying is this.
02:03:38.000 Since every woman has value, for a woman to be high value, she's got to be able to lock down a high value guy.
02:03:43.000 There's a reason why women take a man's last name and not the other way around.
02:03:46.000 Women, when they meet each other and hug, the first thing they ask typically is, oh, do you have a man?
02:03:51.000 Do you have a relationship?
02:03:52.000 Tell me about your kids, etc.
02:03:53.000 When two men meet, what do they do?
02:03:54.000 Shake hands.
02:03:55.000 What do you do for a living?
02:03:56.000 Men are judged on creating value.
02:03:57.000 Women are judged on creating children, typically.
02:04:00.000 Now, Are there some women out there that chase success and make money, whatever?
02:04:03.000 Sure, but that is not the main goal of a female.
02:04:06.000 The main goal of a female, from a biological sense, is to procreate.
02:04:09.000 For a woman to procreate, she's got to be with a man.
02:04:11.000 Typically, they want the best guy.
02:04:12.000 For a man to procreate, he's got to create excess resources to be able to attract that woman.
02:04:16.000 So what we bring to the table is different.
02:04:18.000 I don't disagree with any of that, but there are high-value women, and there are probably high-value men.
02:04:22.000 I think a woman's only high-value if she can lock down a high-value guy.
02:04:24.000 That's my take on it.
02:04:25.000 Okay, well, at least you have a definition for it.
02:04:26.000 Yeah, that's my definition on it.
02:04:27.000 Which, again, I see all of us here at the table have different opinions, which is great, but that's my take on it, like, with a high-value man, a high-value man.
02:04:34.000 No, no, I mean, what you want me to say is a woman who has a low body count, who is, you know, a girl from the Amish Dutch country in Pennsylvania who's never, you know, known another man, doesn't have any social media.
02:04:45.000 I mean, there's a lot of ways we can go with this, but again, those are ideals, okay?
02:04:51.000 Ideals are important because ideals are what we strive for.
02:04:54.000 And those ideals are also what lead us astray, which is why this list is fucking useful.
02:05:01.000 That's why.
02:05:03.000 Ideals lead you into a better life.
02:05:04.000 That's the whole point of an ideal.
02:05:06.000 It's the best version of yourself.
02:05:07.000 You're never going to be the best version of yourself, but the path to being the best version of yourself- Every guy who ever thought he found his fucking soulmate who ended up on the opposite side of the fucking divorce table from her had a fucking ideal about that one.
02:05:18.000 Every man that dies happily surrounded by his family who had a long...
02:05:22.000 Oh yes, I know.
02:05:23.000 The pastoral scene with everybody surrounded by his family.
02:05:26.000 You know that 90% of the population in the United States doesn't die like that.
02:05:32.000 They actually die in assisted living and nobody knows about it until the next morning.
02:05:36.000 Okay, as opposed to you, who was tweeting about that.
02:05:38.000 That is a fucking fantasy.
02:05:44.000 Let me hit these chats real fast.
02:05:48.000 We got another show coming up.
02:05:49.000 We got another show coming up.
02:05:50.000 I'm going to go through this real fast.
02:05:52.000 Alright, so we got KidBlueRB goes, Rolo Dodging the defining a high value man is like the LGBT dodging what a woman is.
02:05:59.000 Feels like I'm watching Matt Walsh's documentary right now.
02:06:00.000 You're the grandmaster of RP. You out of all people should be able to define what a high value man is.
02:06:04.000 He can't define high-value mail, but he can define us as douche nozzles.
02:06:07.000 All right, let me...
02:06:08.000 That's pretty funny, though.
02:06:10.000 Microsby says, Myron, you're my guy, but you're giving Rolo an out.
02:06:13.000 Let him stand on the chair he's standing on so he can continue to hang himself with his food.
02:06:16.000 I know you really want to defend him because...
02:06:18.000 Here's the thing.
02:06:19.000 I know you base a lot of the show around that book, but, like, bro, he's making absolutely no sense.
02:06:23.000 Here's the thing.
02:06:24.000 Everyone is interpreting it different.
02:06:25.000 Obviously, I have my take on it.
02:06:27.000 Roller has his take.
02:06:27.000 He doesn't have a take, bro.
02:06:29.000 We all have different takes on this.
02:06:30.000 He doesn't have a take.
02:06:31.000 That's still a take!
02:06:31.000 That's still a take, though.
02:06:32.000 That's still a take!
02:06:33.000 Okay.
02:06:33.000 If this was some LGBT shit or some woman shit, we would be all laughing and roasting them.
02:06:37.000 Rightfully so.
02:06:38.000 If a woman came out and you were like, what makes a woman high-value?
02:06:40.000 And she's like, well, if she's in her moment and if she's girlbossing it up as hard as she can, that's a high-value woman.
02:06:47.000 Like, we would be roasting the fuck out.
02:06:48.000 That's the same argument he's making right now.
02:06:49.000 That's not what I'm saying.
02:06:50.000 It's not the...
02:06:51.000 It's fucking apples and oranges.
02:06:55.000 Guys, that's the problem with all this shit.
02:06:57.000 You don't even fucking understand the nature of the tweet.
02:06:59.000 That's why.
02:07:00.000 Because I'm asking a specific question and you can't answer it.
02:07:02.000 Ask if it's advice.
02:07:02.000 It's a joke.
02:07:03.000 It's not.
02:07:04.000 Okay, here's the thing.
02:07:08.000 Let me give you a highlight.
02:07:10.000 A high-value man goes and fucks as many chicks as he possibly can, as many women as possible, and he fucking finds one little needle in the haystack, and he wipes up that girl because she happens to have no body count.
02:07:21.000 She's like 100% in love with him.
02:07:23.000 I can go and rattle off all these extremes, and you know who's going to disagree with me?
02:07:28.000 Every fucking guy in fucking daily lives.
02:07:30.000 Say what you really think.
02:07:31.000 Don't say it ironically.
02:07:32.000 Say what you believe.
02:07:34.000 What I'm saying is what I believe here, okay?
02:07:37.000 This is the whole thing.
02:07:38.000 The point of the fucking tweet is that it's your fucking definition of what it is.
02:07:44.000 You said Ben Shapiro's not a high-value man, so you must be comparing him to some standard in your head.
02:07:49.000 You said Bezos is not a high-value man.
02:07:51.000 You said Elon Musk is not a high-value man, so there's some standard in your head that you're comparing these guys to so they're not matching up to.
02:07:56.000 What is that standard?
02:07:58.000 All you would have to do is look at their personal lives so you would understand this.
02:08:01.000 Again, do I have time to go and enumerate all that?
02:08:04.000 No, I don't.
02:08:05.000 But if you go and you look at what they're doing.
02:08:08.000 Let's just use Elon Musk for a second.
02:08:10.000 Yeah, let's use Ben Shapiro.
02:08:11.000 That was a good example.
02:08:12.000 Ben Shapiro.
02:08:12.000 We can look at Ben Shapiro.
02:08:14.000 How did he meet his wife?
02:08:15.000 Do you know how he met his wife?
02:08:16.000 Was it an arranged or family friends?
02:08:18.000 I don't know.
02:08:19.000 Basically, what Ben Shapiro did was he wore this chick down over the course of, God knows, like three or four months, right?
02:08:24.000 He would meet the definition of stalking and being a creeper if he wasn't Ben Shapiro, right?
02:08:30.000 If he didn't have his background in three or four months.
02:08:33.000 What does that mean?
02:08:34.000 Basically, he wore her down is what he did.
02:08:37.000 And he's very proud of that fact, too.
02:08:39.000 Okay, hold on, real quick.
02:08:40.000 You seem to have a problem with this.
02:08:41.000 When somebody asks you, what is X? And then you go, well, it's X. You're not really answering the question.
02:08:45.000 You've done this like three times.
02:08:46.000 When you say wore her down over three to four months, what does that mean?
02:08:49.000 Did they date?
02:08:50.000 Did he see her after school?
02:08:51.000 What that means is he kept, he was persistent and he just kept wearing her down over, over, over time.
02:08:58.000 Bro, that's ridiculous, man.
02:09:02.000 I will send you, I will send you the fucking, I will send you the video.
02:09:06.000 I will send you the video.
02:09:07.000 Okay, Jesus.
02:09:09.000 Oh, right.
02:09:10.000 You guys should have viewer call-ins more often.
02:09:12.000 It's cute.
02:09:14.000 Okay.
02:09:16.000 And you should send your OnlyFan girls to come at me to debate me in your proxy next time.
02:09:21.000 I mean, we're asking to debate you right now and you can't even...
02:09:24.000 Except next time, please find the girl who actually puts lenses in her fucking glasses.
02:09:28.000 A little weird.
02:09:29.000 You're so triggered, dude.
02:09:31.000 Are you okay?
02:09:31.000 Not very rational.
02:09:33.000 True.
02:09:34.000 His six books will be the emotional male, I think.
02:09:36.000 Because I would consider Ben Shapiro a high-value guy.
02:09:38.000 I would.
02:09:39.000 No, everybody would, obviously.
02:09:41.000 But you disagree with the grandmaster?
02:09:43.000 The godfather.
02:09:44.000 The great-great-granddaddy of the Red Bull.
02:09:49.000 Myron, Myron, would you agree with his outlook on women?
02:09:56.000 With Ben Shapiro's outlook on women?
02:09:58.000 Yeah.
02:09:59.000 Ben Shapiro has literally come at you for exactly this.
02:10:03.000 For everything that these guys are talking about, he's come at you for exactly the same thing.
02:10:08.000 Yeah, so...
02:10:09.000 You guys did a full show on this.
02:10:10.000 No, no, for sure.
02:10:11.000 I disagree with him as far as the female stuff.
02:10:14.000 Like, oh yeah, having sexual experience is bad for you, like he was trying to say.
02:10:19.000 But I think, objectively speaking, from the things that I listed as far as what I think makes a guy have value, he has all those things.
02:10:25.000 Now, He's limited on his knowledge of females, for sure, right?
02:10:29.000 Because I think he only got with one girl and she comes from a family.
02:10:35.000 I don't want to say it because we're on YouTube.
02:10:37.000 But I think that set her up to be a girl that would be to his liking.
02:10:44.000 But the point I'm trying to make is I think Ben Shapiro is a high-value guy, but I don't agree with his stances on women.
02:10:49.000 Same thing with Steven Crowder right now.
02:10:51.000 You guys were just talking about Crowder not too long ago.
02:10:53.000 Like, right up until he got this divorce and all this stuff started coming out and Candace Owens and all that shit.
02:10:59.000 Everybody would have said he was a high-value guy until now.
02:11:02.000 I think they're high-value guys like Crowder and Ben Shapiro based on what they've accomplished in life, but I don't agree with their standpoints on females.
02:11:11.000 If he disagrees with them, then they can't be high-value because they don't agree with his books.
02:11:15.000 True.
02:11:17.000 Like, go back to fucking Twitch.
02:11:19.000 Let's go back to Twitch and start playing games again.
02:11:21.000 You have no fucking point.
02:11:23.000 There's no point for either one of you to be on this fucking show, quite honestly.
02:11:26.000 Dumbledore has spoken.
02:11:27.000 Because here's the thing.
02:11:29.000 The traditional conservative beliefs don't necessarily work in today's sexual marketplace when it comes to dealing with women.
02:11:34.000 No, we agree.
02:11:34.000 But that's the reason he thinks Ben Shapiro's not high-value, because he disagreed with you on relationships.
02:11:39.000 What I'm saying is that, well, yes, I would actually agree with that, simply because does Ben Shapiro, what his disagreement with you, does that then, at least in some way, diminish him as a high-value man?
02:11:53.000 No.
02:11:54.000 We can disagree.
02:11:55.000 I disagree with that.
02:11:56.000 I'm asking Myron.
02:11:57.000 I mean, because it's Myron who says he's a high-value guy.
02:12:00.000 Describe that he disagrees with the traditional relationships.
02:12:03.000 If you're like money, muscles, and game, okay?
02:12:05.000 In this case, it's the female aspect of what makes a high-value guy, right?
02:12:10.000 If he disagrees with what he's not disagreeing with me, he's disagreeing with Myron.
02:12:14.000 He just said that he's high-value.
02:12:16.000 He said he's high value, but except for that one part where he's saying, you know what, I disagree with his outlook when it comes to women and how best to go about forming relationships or whatever, the sex, whatever it is.
02:12:26.000 Yeah, I think he's a high-value guy, but I disagree with his notion on how to deal with women.
02:12:29.000 He's not fucking 50 guy or 50 women.
02:12:32.000 Yeah, no, he's not.
02:12:34.000 He's against that, which I think is dated.
02:12:36.000 Again, like I said before, I think a guy could be traditionally conservative, but I don't necessarily have to agree with someone's viewpoints on how they deal with females for me to see them as high-value, because I think he accomplishes all the things that I mentioned on my list of what I think makes a guy high-value.
02:12:36.000 You know what I mean?
02:12:50.000 And so what you're doing is you're saying that high-value is these accomplishments, correct?
02:12:54.000 Yeah.
02:12:54.000 I'm interpreting it, yeah.
02:12:55.000 That's how I interpret it.
02:12:56.000 Which, obviously, everyone here at the panel has a different opinion.
02:12:59.000 Yeah, I agree with that.
02:12:59.000 I kind of agree.
02:13:00.000 Respected, accomplished.
02:13:01.000 Which is great.
02:13:02.000 We don't really have a different opinion.
02:13:03.000 I feel like you're pretty aligned at the table.
02:13:06.000 Yeah, with us three, yeah.
02:13:07.000 But, I mean, again, we're looking at things differently in general.
02:13:11.000 Okay.
02:13:12.000 Because you guys don't agree.
02:13:13.000 I agree with his tweet if you want to become high-value in the quickest amount of time.
02:13:16.000 But you can't agree with it if he doesn't even define it.
02:13:18.000 You can't agree with him if you don't even know what his definition is.
02:13:21.000 Does he agree with it?
02:13:23.000 Defined by the way he defines it.
02:13:25.000 No, but he did though.
02:13:26.000 He chose what high value means to him.
02:13:28.000 You're missing a point.
02:13:29.000 Thank you.
02:13:29.000 Thank you.
02:13:30.000 Fresh is the voice of reason.
02:13:31.000 It's going over your head because you guys are thinking about one point vasectomy.
02:13:34.000 That's it.
02:13:35.000 We weren't even on vasectomy, but that's okay.
02:13:36.000 I think we've come to the bottom of this.
02:13:39.000 Myron agrees with the tweet that I'm talking about according to what his definition of a high value guy is, correct?
02:13:47.000 Yeah, he knows his definition.
02:13:49.000 High value men are just people that have high value.
02:13:49.000 Exactly.
02:13:52.000 I agree.
02:13:53.000 Alright, I'll hit these other ones.
02:13:53.000 I got it.
02:13:56.000 We got here.
02:13:57.000 Viking paradigm.
02:13:58.000 Ignoring the context.
02:13:59.000 Talking over.
02:13:59.000 Interrupting ad hominems.
02:14:00.000 Goalpost shifting.
02:14:01.000 Claiming it's advice when it's not.
02:14:03.000 It's easy to see who's trying to control their viewers and who's not.
02:14:05.000 And easy to see who lost the debate here.
02:14:06.000 Hey, you're a douche nozzle.
02:14:08.000 That's a douche nozzle thing to say.
02:14:10.000 Show the Viking, man.
02:14:11.000 That's not very rational of you.
02:14:12.000 Life, love, value.
02:14:14.000 Women aren't so simple.
02:14:15.000 Leave these RP dudes alone in their zone to stew.
02:14:17.000 Responsibility, intelligence, and discipline above all and are talismans of happiness for most people.
02:14:23.000 Enjoy life, grind, and don't glorify anyone.
02:14:25.000 I agree.
02:14:25.000 I agree.
02:14:26.000 100%.
02:14:26.000 And then what else we got here?
02:14:28.000 We got Mike Rashid.
02:14:29.000 I hope y'all don't let Rolo's weird immigration comment fly by.
02:14:34.000 Immigration comment?
02:14:35.000 Immigration?
02:14:36.000 I wish I got an invite for discussion.
02:14:37.000 I wish you got an invite for discussion.
02:14:38.000 He should come to the round table next week.
02:14:39.000 Immigration?
02:14:40.000 He's not Trump.
02:14:42.000 What am I talking about?
02:14:43.000 I don't know.
02:14:45.000 Okay.
02:14:45.000 Alright, what else?
02:14:46.000 Anything else?
02:14:47.000 Up to you guys.
02:14:50.000 That's it.
02:14:51.000 Oh, John?
02:14:51.000 John.
02:14:53.000 100%.
02:14:54.000 100%.
02:14:55.000 If I wanted to learn how to become a successful man, I'd go to Rollo before going to Sneeko or Destiny.
02:14:59.000 Two grown-ass men who argue like teenage boys.
02:15:01.000 Alright, so a 55-year-old guy calling us douche nozzles to someone who's like three times younger, that's a mature way to argue?
02:15:07.000 Damn.
02:15:07.000 Damn.
02:15:09.000 If that's your idea, then okay.
02:15:11.000 Wow.
02:15:11.000 Shots fired.
02:15:12.000 That's just what happened on the show.
02:15:16.000 This is a great debate.
02:15:18.000 Do you have anything to say?
02:15:19.000 Like, you called in.
02:15:20.000 Great debate.
02:15:21.000 Where can they find y'all?
02:15:23.000 Yeah, go back to Twitch.
02:15:25.000 That's some advice for you.
02:15:27.000 That's some real advice for you guys.
02:15:28.000 You guys have no business fucking being in any of this shit right here.
02:15:31.000 You're not ready to have a fucking adult conversation.
02:15:34.000 I've seen you chatting more than any other name in the chats.
02:15:37.000 I re-chat whenever I stream, which is when I'm online, and you're in there more than me.
02:15:42.000 Actually, I'm banned on there.
02:15:43.000 I'm on Rumble.
02:15:45.000 If you want to pull the online card, then maybe get off the internet a little bit and chat in all day.
02:15:52.000 Douche nozzle.
02:15:53.000 It's a lot harder when it's not just like 22-year-old women being ganged up on a podcast, huh?
02:15:57.000 I'm sorry, Rillo.
02:15:58.000 I'll be happy to fucking debate you, dude, on any topic you want.
02:16:01.000 We are right now.
02:16:02.000 We just did.
02:16:04.000 No, you're talking about this one fucking tweet is what you're talking about.
02:16:06.000 Well, we were talking to the godfather of Red Pill.
02:16:08.000 Yeah, and speaking of fucking tweets, or excuse me, speaking of fucking super chats, was that not you on whatever podcast the other night?
02:16:16.000 Yeah, I like to support people I go on to have a podcast.
02:16:18.000 Right, thank you very much.
02:16:20.000 Thank you for at least admitting it.
02:16:21.000 Those are the only two Super Chats that sent my life.
02:16:23.000 If I'm watching content and I want to know if it's Red Pill or not, I just...
02:16:26.000 It seems like you're watching a lot more than you think you are.
02:16:28.000 ...program I've ever been on.
02:16:30.000 It's insane.
02:16:31.000 You should get a tax credit for, like, watching me.
02:16:35.000 Bro, do you have anything to say?
02:16:37.000 Why are you staring like that, man?
02:16:41.000 Okay.
02:16:42.000 I thought you'd have a wrap.
02:16:45.000 First of all, I've thrown out this...
02:16:49.000 First of all...
02:16:51.000 If you guys want to come to Vegas, come to Vegas.
02:16:55.000 We'll sit across the table from each other.
02:16:57.000 I'm going to build up your fucking dog shit podcast.
02:16:59.000 What are you talking about?
02:16:59.000 Come to Miami.
02:17:01.000 I am coming to Miami.
02:17:02.000 Oh, cool.
02:17:03.000 I hope you're here next week.
02:17:04.000 You guys are so mean, man.
02:17:05.000 What do you mean we're mean?
02:17:08.000 He called us douche-nazzles.
02:17:09.000 Oh, it's fine.
02:17:10.000 He's the Grand Wizard of Red Pill, so I can't go say anything about that.
02:17:13.000 But I'm mean now because I'm calling him irrational for not having any arguments at all.
02:17:17.000 Bro, I know you want to defend him because the book is here on the table, but, like, bro, that made no sense.
02:17:22.000 You guys have not read the book.
02:17:24.000 You guys don't know what the fuck you're reading.
02:17:25.000 I'm not reading your book, bro.
02:17:26.000 You can't even define what high-value man is.
02:17:27.000 Why would I read a book from a guy who can't have a clear definition?
02:17:30.000 I don't know if you read the book.
02:17:31.000 I'm not even going to go there.
02:17:32.000 For the last half hour, I've been trying to explain to you this shit to you.
02:17:36.000 You guys have no business being in this fucking sphere to begin with, first of all.
02:17:41.000 It keeps it forever until you're 65.
02:17:43.000 And the reason why is because you devolve into...
02:17:46.000 You want to know why, like, when we talk...
02:17:48.000 Nobody debates anymore.
02:17:49.000 You know why?
02:17:50.000 Because it devolves into this middle school bullshit that both of you are.
02:17:53.000 But you guys are perfect.
02:17:53.000 You guys marry each other.
02:17:55.000 You can't call this childish when you were the one who started insulting.
02:17:58.000 I would just ask you a question and then you said douche nozzle.
02:18:00.000 Now you're going to go play the maturity card?
02:18:03.000 Yeah.
02:18:04.000 Yeah, now I'm going to play the maturity card.
02:18:06.000 That was a middle school argument.
02:18:09.000 Alright.
02:18:10.000 I mean, this is not going anywhere.
02:18:11.000 This was a great debate.
02:18:13.000 Debation.
02:18:13.000 Debation.
02:18:14.000 I mean, it's very obvious that everyone here has different takes, which is great.
02:18:17.000 I think that's good.
02:18:18.000 I'm not sure what his take is still.
02:18:20.000 But that's cool.
02:18:20.000 It's different than ours.
02:18:21.000 We know that.
02:18:21.000 You know what I mean?
02:18:22.000 So it is what it is.
02:18:23.000 Is there anything else, Chris?
02:18:24.000 Nope, we're good.
02:18:27.000 Alright.
02:18:28.000 Smash that like button.
02:18:29.000 I'll be there next week.
02:18:33.000 Alright, cool.
02:18:34.000 I think we'll have him on on the 15th.
02:18:36.000 Let's do a boxing match.
02:18:39.000 Just kidding.
02:18:40.000 Alright.
02:18:41.000 Bro, thanks for coming on, bro.
02:18:42.000 Take it easy, man.
02:18:44.000 Okay, so let's see here.
02:18:46.000 We're caught up, Chris, on your end?
02:18:47.000 Bro, that's a goofy godfather, bro.
02:18:49.000 I ain't gonna lie to you, bro.
02:18:49.000 I mean, like, that shit was goofy.
02:18:51.000 I know you really want to defend him, and mine right now, I know you're probably like, eh.
02:18:55.000 No, it's not that.
02:18:56.000 We all have different takes on it, which is fine.
02:18:59.000 Okay, but he did get triggered immediately.
02:19:01.000 For someone who called himself the rational man, that was no rational arguments were made.
02:19:05.000 He got emotional.
02:19:06.000 He got triggered immediately.
02:19:07.000 He started cursing.
02:19:08.000 That was not like an example of good masculinity.
02:19:11.000 What do you do?
02:19:13.000 I tried to engage, and I asked him specific questions.
02:19:15.000 You also made insults multiple times.
02:19:18.000 Yeah, but if he's going to start, of course you're going to follow up, right?
02:19:21.000 Well, you attacked him prior to the show, so just to be fair...
02:19:25.000 Did I? You did!
02:19:27.000 What'd I say?
02:19:27.000 Say that his comments were asinine, they didn't make sense.
02:19:30.000 That's not insulting, that's going at his advice.
02:19:33.000 I'm talking about his argument.
02:19:34.000 And then you said the man that made the comments is...
02:19:37.000 I'm just saying, look, ultimately, we both did the same thing.
02:19:40.000 That's not true.
02:19:41.000 Talking shit about somebody's arguments is a lot less serious than calling you a douche nozzle.
02:19:45.000 I didn't call up a douche nozzle.
02:19:47.000 It was kind of funny.
02:19:48.000 Douche nozzle.
02:19:50.000 Okay.
02:19:51.000 I personally wouldn't tolerate that type of disrespect, but, you know.
02:19:54.000 Where can I find y'all?
02:19:55.000 Rumble.com slash Sneaker.
02:19:56.000 You already know.
02:19:58.000 YouTube.com, Instagram.com slash destiny.
02:20:00.000 And y'all are going to stick around for the after hours, right?
02:20:01.000 Of course.
02:20:02.000 Let's go.
02:20:03.000 So we're going to be back here with some girls.
02:20:05.000 Guys have a discussion.
02:20:06.000 Don't forget to like the video, subscribe to the channel.
02:20:08.000 Go check out Rollo on YouTube as well.
02:20:09.000 I think it was a good discussion.
02:20:10.000 I think everybody had different takes on it.
02:20:12.000 I think it was good.
02:20:14.000 You know, we agreed on some things, disagreed on some other things.
02:20:16.000 I think that's the importance of bringing people in to have different viewpoints.
02:20:20.000 And as men, we can agree to disagree and still be friends after.
02:20:23.000 True.
02:20:24.000 On some level.
02:20:25.000 Yeah.
02:20:25.000 I think it's important to be able to have these tough discussions.
02:20:27.000 I would love to listen to Slayer and, you know, accelerate in my car.
02:20:30.000 This guy, bro.
02:20:31.000 I don't like a family.
02:20:34.000 All right, guys.
02:20:35.000 Peace.
02:20:35.000 We'll catch you guys.
02:20:38.000 I ran so far away.
02:20:41.000 I just ran.
02:20:43.000 I ran for night and day.