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00:17:37.000Don't So my like really good friend Bianca was like friends with pow and then she was like sat okay I call her pow sometimes like short that's like my nickname so if I'm saying how like shut up Yeah,
00:22:54.000I mean, obviously I know that's going to play a part, I think, for any person, but, you know, I don't think that was the most important thing.
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00:30:19.000I think that society puts these weird like standards on masculinity and femininity and you never know like how someone grew up like maybe that person that you're with is scared of haunted house type stuff but they want to do it with you because they're your partner.
00:33:39.000We understand sometimes it's okay to be independent, but in this day and age, men are feeling less than because we're not letting them be themselves.
00:33:47.000Okay, but that's different than a fucking haunted house.
00:36:29.000But if he didn't ask me where I wanted to go and he was just like, I'm going here, you're going there, I would probably just be like, you're kidding, right?
00:39:06.000I mean, I believe like how we were talking, like a man should lead and a woman, you know, should be submissive to the man.
00:39:15.000I've always believed that when she has a man, you know, I also believe that women have the right to be independent when they don't have men.
00:39:21.000They have to do what they need to do to survive.
00:39:24.000So I, but in a haunted house situation, Baby, hold me by the hips.
00:40:48.000I don't like my generation which is Gen Z specifically because it seems like they need to have this constant record record a video or post pictures of every waking moment of their life thoughts.
00:41:26.000Are you always on social media too or no?
00:41:28.000No, so I do social media detoxes because in order to function personally, I can't be seeing everything people post and I can't be posting everything that I do.
00:41:39.000Also for my safety, I got into an incident where this guy was stalking me and honestly I was like, yeah, I can't be posting everything.
00:42:34.000So, as Pau's best friend, she carries around this digital camera, and literally it has been said by multiple people that we have never met someone who takes more pictures in their life than Pau.
00:43:15.000One thing I want to know is the fact that like a lot of people are more confident texting and video chatting versus like in-person interactions and I feel like social media has affected people's ability to like communicate with each other face to face.
00:44:45.000He should be careful fucking with two girls, though.
00:44:50.000Because if he's fucking with the first one, he said the first one's a hoe, he better be careful not to give the second one some type of STD. Especially true.
00:45:07.000Yeah, bro, you're better off wifing the girl that isn't a whore.
00:45:11.000I will take a pointer down in SMV. But what if he called the baddie a whore because she's just a baddie and she's not really a whore and he don't even know her like that?
00:46:29.000They always want you to give them the benefit of their doubt, but they want to give you the benefit of their doubt.
00:46:32.000Well, the real reason why I mostly think that about a guy is because they're not motivated to get out of the house once they're stuck in the house.
00:46:39.000Maybe he's a millionaire and he just don't want to leave his mom.
00:46:40.000But that's fine, but even if he's a millionaire and he don't want to leave his mom, he's not going to be motivated to leave his mom now that he got a girl.
00:47:35.000I personally think that in the Western society, their agenda is to make the women more masculine, to separate family and traditional values.
00:50:52.000My thing is, how does investigating things or doing your research make you toxic, though?
00:50:57.000So for example, if a guy's talking to another girl, but it's kind of on the DL, he has a roster, and you're on the roster and another girl's on it, and he's talking to both of you at the same time, but he doesn't want you guys to know that he's talking to both of you, you find it out, you can lowkey use it against him and be like,
00:51:14.000I don't know, just kind of say toxic shit.
00:51:16.000You know he's talking to someone else, so you'll fuck with his emotions and be like, oh, I'm talking to someone else.
00:51:22.000So you're saying you can play the game?
00:56:47.000Because men are so driven by flesh and then they judge women for what they, like, okay, so they would, they try to have sex with as many girls as they can and not really intentionally be with them, but then judge the woman for having sex with them.
00:57:00.000When you're both in bed and you become one in bed, you know, like, it's like.
00:57:05.000I mean, you're equal when you get in bed together.
00:58:20.000Because, like, by your logic, you're saying it's toxic that men have sex with girls and sell the dream of monogamy, but then I can make the same argument that...
00:58:27.000It's toxic that women go out on dates with men that they don't like and get free dinners, free experiences, etc.
00:58:31.000And let's ask ourselves, who's more successful at finessing?
00:58:35.000Is it men more successful at finessing sex without giving monogamy?
00:58:38.000Or women finessing free dates without giving up sex?
00:58:40.000I would argue it's the women that are more successful.
00:58:42.000So by your logic, women are more toxic.
01:00:29.000No, they're lying to themselves, because they're the one who came up to my face and told me they want to be my friend, but they want to get in my coon coon, like, get the fuck out of here.
01:00:39.000And by that same logic, you're toxic for taking their attention and time.
01:00:42.000No, I'm not toxic because at the end of the day, I am a child of God who take the benefit of the doubt, who let somebody be my friend.
01:02:00.000And sometimes when you, if you're not emotionally grounded, you can lead with your emotions and be a little bit manipulative when you feel on the verge of potentially being hurt or being, you know, that you're being lied to.
01:02:13.000So, in that sense, there is a potentiality where women can be more toxic in the sense of utilizing their emotions to be a little bit more emotionally reactive.
01:02:47.000And I feel like some experiences with either dating or relationships, not necessarily that they're unavoidable, but like if you're someone who's like conscious minded and you're not choosing to engage in certain types of experiences,
01:03:06.000then there are certain types of things that you can avoid in relationships.
01:05:01.000We live in this crazy world where we try to sit there and say, oh, everyone's perspective is valid, and the reality is it's not, because there's a lot of stupid people.
01:05:21.000I mean, I feel like there's room for each gender to become more emotionally intelligent, but I feel like because women are more emotional, they have the ability to become more emotional.
01:06:19.000But it's about putting yourself in the environment where you're not around people that are that dumb.
01:06:23.000I mean, the thing about it I wanted to also add, too, is like...
01:06:26.000I feel like in a lot of instances, women are usually the ones that you don't expect them to cheat or you don't expect them to do something that's, you know, unfaithful.
01:06:35.000So I think, like, when it comes to that, yeah, women can get away with a lot of things.
01:07:50.000You're supposed to do for your man as your men do for you.
01:07:55.000I mean, the reality is, I mean, men have to put in way more work than women to get the same, you know, to get any type of attention from females, but women don't have to put any work in, really.
01:08:06.000So I would say in a relationship, it's really mostly on the girl to keep her man.
01:08:17.000Whenever the woman's in a position where the man is constantly qualifying to her and chasing her validation and doing all this extra shit, the woman feels like she's better than him.
01:08:25.000And whenever a woman feels like she's better than you, that's an L. So she's got to be chasing your validation making you happy because men are way less likely to break up a relationship.
01:08:34.000So who has to be in the position of leadership and the one that's adored?
01:08:37.000The man needs to because the man has a way lower likelihood of actually breaking up the relationship if we're going to talk about relationships lasting longer.
01:08:43.000The man needs to be the adored, not the adoree.
01:08:49.000The feeling of the love and the peace that he gets from a woman.
01:08:53.000The key reason why is because women have a higher propensity to leave a relationship, so the man needs to be the one that's more validated than the female.
01:09:01.000So, in my question, if the woman gets bored, you don't think, for the longevity, you don't think that a man should put effort in trying to get her back on board?
01:09:13.000If the woman loses interest, you said?
01:09:15.000Well, like if she gets bored, not lose interest, because you can still love a person, but be bored with the relationship.
01:09:20.000Like, we need to spice it up a little bit.
01:09:22.000Well, that's why you have other women.
01:09:27.000Controversial take, but that's why I'm really big on telling guys you need to have multiple women.
01:09:31.000That's the only way you keep girls in check, is by letting them understand that their position is not promised, and you keep them competing with each other.
01:09:52.000You're always gonna respect something more that you work for.
01:09:55.000And if you're with a man and you're constantly being challenged by other girls that wanna take him away from you, or he has multiple women and his attention is divided, well, you're gonna value that attention more.
01:10:03.000And unfortunately, that's what we have to do nowadays in a society where we give women everything and we pedestalize them.
01:10:08.000The guy needs to knock her down a peg or two to make her realize you are mortal, you're a female, you're not that special, and I'm the one that has the power here.
01:10:14.000And that's what women respect, unfortunately.
01:10:41.000I said, I think that the long-term relationships of 36 years or whatever, those long-term relationships that people didn't walk away from, I think that started to devalue when MySpace came out.
01:10:52.000That's why, like, when social media really started to hit, like, the internet really started to hit, that's when, because people have more options in their face.
01:11:24.000Because I think women have more time to be at home because men are out working to be the providers.
01:11:29.000Okay, so you think the free time, but what does them being on their free time, being on social media, what did that lead to in your opinion?
01:11:36.000Influence on what you focus on expands.
01:11:40.000So all the options, all the seeing, you know, like what you're feeding your mind constantly has a big outcome on what you're producing for yourself.
01:11:49.000Real quick, how many ladies on the panel agree, you could put the thumbs up with the green or with the red, agree that social media has led to the degradation of relationships and it's mostly women's fault?
01:13:14.000Why do you think it fucked up the men more?
01:13:16.000I mean, in the beginning it might have fucked up women more, but now when women got a little more settled into social media, I think, yeah, now we're realizing more of our potential.
01:13:27.000I understand your stance, but why do you think it's men?
01:14:13.000Because women are more, like, emotional and they're also the ones who are more, like, stalking social media from a space of, like, looking at who's following what and who's liking what and whatever.
01:14:32.000She said it started with Facebook, or sorry, MySpace, that social media gave women a plethora of options.
01:14:37.000Ladies, please pay attention on the panel.
01:14:38.000But I am, but I'm not saying from a plethora of options like they were from the sense of like, oh, well, I know who I am and I can go get any man.
01:15:14.000No, I know, but you gotta also remember when guys trying to holla at you, it's not working out because they're so used to dealing with what they have to compete with in the internet.
01:15:26.000So she's saying that in real life, because of the internet, guys have to deal with a lot of stress and they don't know how to talk to women.
01:15:32.000Because of what they have to deal with what's on the internet.
01:16:19.000So, do you think society objectifies women and why?
01:16:22.000And from this point forward, guys, we're going to go 50 and up, so I'll read the chats that came in before at 20, but we're going to go 50 and up from here on out.
01:17:43.000The attention goes where, you know, things are more exposed, in a way, on both spectrums.
01:17:51.000So, I don't know, I think that it's kind of like something that women have chosen to capitalize on as well, so it's not necessarily just society.
01:17:58.000It's kind of like, oh, well, I get to use my body to do these things, like, why not?
01:18:12.000Because if you go, for example, if you go on Instagram and you see like an Instagram model posting like a bikini picture or something, most of the comments, not most of the comments, but like a majority of the comments can be a man saying like objectifying comments or like commenting about her boobs,
01:18:27.000like more like inappropriate comments rather than you would see a man's picture of what woman would comment on that.
01:18:39.000I feel like, for example, the girls will get more rude or inappropriate comments on their pictures from men, like a bikini model, for example, rather than a Calvin Klein model getting comments from women that are objectifying.
01:18:53.000Do you think that's because it takes more work to build an aesthetic physique than it does to be a bikini model?
01:18:59.000I mean, honestly, I just think it's maybe the maturity level of certain men that want to comment that.
01:19:41.000I think people just put themselves in a position to just do what they want.
01:19:47.000For instance, like women having an OnlyFans, if she wants to put herself in that position, you know, to be glorified or egyptified or whatever, then that's her choice.
01:20:56.000Yes, I think they do it because men are more visual, kind of what she was saying.
01:21:01.000When you think of it like Hooters, obviously they have hot waitresses because people want to look at the waitresses, but I also think girls play into it more to get that attention back.
01:21:12.000Everybody likes to get attention, so they feed into it by posting slutty pics, I guess.
01:23:58.000Yeah, because I think that it's taking society and Western society in the wrong direction as opposed to the traditional values and demasculating men and...
01:24:57.000But no one made them do the BBL though.
01:24:59.000But no one makes them, but let's remember, with people around us, the things that we hear and the things that they say to us, people could be very cruel, even though we make it seem like it don't bother some of us.
01:25:30.000Do you think the objectification of women is bad, good or bad for society, or good for women in general?
01:25:36.000I think it's bad for women in general because it just, like, fucks with our confidence, and ultimately, like, the guys are the ones who get, like, the end of it.
01:25:43.000Like, if we're not confident in ourselves, it affects, like, our behavior, and then, like, obviously our man is going to feel that end of it, too.
01:25:51.000So I feel like the objectification is just bad overall for everyone involved.
01:26:46.000For women first, though, because that's the main question.
01:26:48.000For women, because we're mainly being judged off of our bodies, nobody's going to really find the person they connect with mentally, because that's all they're looking at is our bodies.
01:28:33.000Well, if we're thinking about it from a space of like if a woman is not wanting to be objectified, like she's not like on social media or on OnlyFans doing certain things, if she's walking on the street and walking by herself, walking to the store and a guy's whistling at her or coming up to her,
01:28:49.000I think that that can make a woman feel not safe to be like outside by herself or different things like that or wanting not to be seen.
01:29:01.000But maybe like in the sense of where a woman wants to be objectified and she wants to leverage that, which women do on social media and the internet.
01:29:25.000No, but everybody has a different mindset.
01:29:27.000I can't generalize a woman and say, you're long-term going to be unhappy because you're on OnlyFans.
01:29:32.000Do you think a majority of women would get long-term happiness from sexualizing themselves on the internet?
01:29:37.000Probably not, because most of those women are also talking shit about guys on the internet or saying that they can't trust anyone or having personal issues.
01:29:48.000Yeah, I think most of the women that I've seen who, and I'm not making a generalization for anybody out there, but I feel like most of the women I've seen who feel the need to sexualize themselves in certain ways, they also, under the surface,
01:30:03.000have deep insecurity issues and feel the need to get validation from other people in that way, whether it's a guy or a girl or a friend or whoever.
01:30:12.000And also, I feel like, you know, they...
01:30:17.000Have had experiences where they don't personally work through their issues of like how they've gotten hurt by someone in a relationship and they take that in and then make it be about, I can't trust anyone.
01:30:29.000Okay, real quick, going back to what you said, because you mentioned that a lot of the girls that sexualize themselves talk shit about men and are angry about the relationship game.
01:30:37.000Okay, so would it be fair to say that most women derive fulfillment or pleasure or happiness, right, from a female perspective, from being in a committed relationship with a man that they respect?
01:30:54.000Okay, so you think that they're speaking in anger because they're not able to achieve something that would bring them long-term happiness due to decisions they made?
01:31:02.000Decisions they made or the fact that their past or previous hurt made them turn into something where they started to sexualize themselves and then kind of like expecting to still have what they previously wanted even though they're no longer a person who didn't sexualize themselves.
01:31:28.000Would most of you agree that the path to fulfillment for a woman is having a long-term committed partner that they can be attracted to, aroused by, and also is a leader and they trust, etc.
01:31:41.000The path to long-term happiness for a woman.
01:31:55.000Okay, now, to have fun with this, because we have some dissenters, do you think a career would be able to fill that void better than a relationship with a man that you love, admire, and respect?
01:34:11.000Well, that's one way to deal with it that I gave to keep a woman interested.
01:34:14.000But wouldn't you agree that that would distort the emotional connection that that woman has with her husband?
01:34:21.000Like by inviting another woman into the situation and then continuously inviting her.
01:34:26.000This is another topic, but first, how about this?
01:34:31.000Can you answer if it's bad for society in general, then I'll answer your question.
01:34:35.000Do you think a woman objectifying herself, bad why?
01:34:39.000Um, I just feel like the constant objectification, like you see a lot of women, a lot of young girls trying to, you know, change their body.
01:34:45.000It distorts like the natural beauty standards that society has had over time.
01:36:06.000But do you think that's going to make the man happy versus the woman?
01:36:09.000I feel like that's more so making the man happy.
01:36:11.000For the relationship to last, the man has to be happy.
01:36:14.000Because when a man's happy, the woman will be happy by default.
01:36:18.000Because if a guy is out here, right, and he's achieving success, he's making money, he's getting in the gym, he's taking care of himself, etc., the woman benefits from that.
01:36:26.000And the guy more than likely is not going to leave her.
01:36:28.000He's going to be more fond and attached to her because she was with him while he was building.
01:36:32.000But when women get better and they make more money and become more successful, they look for better suitors.
01:36:38.000That's why the man has to be in a leveraged position of power all the time with the woman.
01:37:21.000Do you think that society respects women less now since they've been objectifying themselves so much on the internet and social media, etc., as discussed earlier?
01:37:31.000We can start hearing that work our way back this way.
01:37:34.000Sorry to say your question one more time.
01:37:35.000Do you think society in general, women get less respect than society nowadays because they've been objectifying themselves on the internet?
01:37:41.000I feel like because it's more common, I don't think they're respected less.
01:37:45.000I feel like it's more appreciated because everybody's doing it.
01:37:49.000When you see somebody start a new platform and they're exposing themselves, it's like, okay, maybe I should be doing that too because everybody's doing it.
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01:45:41.000Alright, so to come back, do you think it hurts their respect in general?
01:45:46.000Because you're saying they're able to finesse and get a sugar daddy, maybe get some experiences, but that'll hurt their ability to find a man long term.
01:46:33.000Then we asked, do you think it's good or bad for society?
01:46:36.000All of you said it's bad, and then you gave various reasons.
01:46:39.000Then I asked, do you think women in general get more respected from objectifying themselves?
01:46:42.000Most of you answered no, or some questionable yeses.
01:46:46.000Now my next question is, If we know that society objectifies women, it's bad in general, and that they lose respect by objectifying themselves, why do women wear provocative costumes on Halloween?
01:50:44.000I can do way more stuff for school than if I'm sitting in a sweatshirt and I have leggings on, my hair looks like shit, I haven't done my skincare or anything.
01:54:13.000If she's promiscuous and like, okay, I want to have fun, I want to dress like a slut and do whatever I want, and bounces from guy to guy to guy to guy.
01:54:21.000But that's the argument I'm trying to make.
01:54:23.000When girls say, I just want to have fun, let's be honest here.
01:55:56.000I mean, not to compete, but sometimes with other girls, you know, a lot of girls are beautiful, and you want to look beautiful the best you can to accentuate your assets.
01:56:04.000If you have big titties, you're like, okay, maybe this is my asset that is the prettiest on my body.
01:56:18.000Do all of you agree that women have a finite amount of time to be pretty so they should show it off?
01:56:25.000I think that's just like really surface level way to live your life like you know if you're living for like your surface level like like I just don't resonate with that Girl,
01:56:42.000when you become old and wrinkly, you're gonna regret.
01:57:09.000I don't think that like the way that people take pictures now is for like getting older and looking back at this memory that I had with this thing.
01:57:18.000They're saying it's for fucking showing your titties and ass.
01:57:22.000No, it's for Tyra Banks and America's Next Top Model baby.
01:58:16.000That's how you think about how can I look fine.
01:58:18.000I'm fine so I can show this on social media or show this to other people that I'm fine or make other people think that I'm fine.
01:58:23.000If you live for that, that's how you, that's your perspective.
01:58:26.000You're not thinking of taking a picture to be like, I'm going to show my grandchildren when I went to a fucking bird show in the middle of Florida and this thing and I was here with my family and their great grandmother died or whatever the fuck.
01:58:38.000You're thinking about, let me take a picture of my fucking titties and show everybody how fine I was when I was young.
02:03:48.000I think it matters too if you're in a relationship or not.
02:03:50.000Because if you're in a relationship and you guys dress up together, you're not going to put on like the sluggiest costume to go out with your man.
02:03:58.000Your man should tell you like, hey, let's dress something where we're both, you know, matching and looking good together.
02:05:32.000And then now that the rubber meets the road and I'm asking you guys real questions, you want to back up and say, oh, but you're telling us we're wrong.
02:05:55.000And she's like, listen, she says that she did it for her own personal reasons, but me knowing her personally, I think she did it for marriage.
02:07:45.000Okay, so I just wanted to add that I think for like a lot of holidays, but Halloween specifically, it gives people the opportunity that don't participate in the objectification, the opportunity to engage.
02:07:57.000Like, for example, I think there's a saying that's called creeping compromises, where if you make one compromise, you tend to follow suit.
02:08:06.000So for example, if you get used to exposing your body, you know, once a year, you're going to get comfortable by the attention that you're getting, you're going to get comfortable, you know, How it feels to show yourself, like, you're not leaving anything to the imagination, that, you know, you're going to continuously do it.
02:08:20.000So, and also I think it depends on, like, your body.
02:08:22.000So, like, if you're more curvaceous and, like, you know, you can't cover everything.
02:08:26.000Like, even if you wear jeans, like, your butt still, you know, is going to show.
02:08:30.000Like, I just think, like, it really depends on the situation, but I feel like Halloween gives people an opportunity to engage.
02:08:36.000But if they continue to do that, that's their choice.
02:08:39.000Like, if they want to engage in the objectification, that's them.
02:08:43.000Okay, but there's negative consequences that come from it, right, as we discussed earlier?
02:10:40.000So, if a girl come around and you taking her to the beach on a date and she came around with a sailor poof poof ass bikini, you gonna fuck that?
02:12:40.000So wouldn't it be fair to say the guy's going to sell a dream and say, oh, I take you seriously and you might get this family and children with me to get sex, right?
02:13:47.000All right, what do you have to say, then?
02:13:50.000I feel like men try to dictate relationship and females dictate sex with their pussy, but at the end of the day, men are going to always lie and tell you what they want to tell you for you to believe it.
02:14:46.000Would you allow your man to impregnate another woman, refuse to let him have kids with another woman, or force him to adopt if he wants kids?
02:16:20.000When a girl's with a man and he can't have a kid.
02:16:24.000Would you let her have a baby with another man?
02:16:27.000Would I? Would you let her have a baby with another man?
02:16:30.000I literally dated a guy before whom he can't have kids.
02:16:34.000So I've been in that position where he can't have kids but it didn't really affect me because I already had a kid and I don't want another one.
02:16:42.000Let's say if it wasn't me and another girl, how, like, how does that work?
02:16:46.000What if another girl, like, I mean, we're not together, so what about his next girl?
02:22:40.000I know that it's not, but at the same time, you would think that a show like this is supposed to be helping men, and it just seems like men are here to trash women, so...
02:23:54.000In experiencing it, I'm not saying it needs to change, but all I'm saying is experiencing it is almost like, oh wow, damn, people are really like that.
02:25:16.000There's the difference between men and women, right?
02:25:17.000So women tell each other comforting lies versus men give each other very painful, you know, uncomfortable truths and we fuck each other up and shit like that.
02:25:25.000And that's what makes men stronger a lot of times.
02:25:27.000But women, y'all are kind of soft, man.
02:25:28.000And I mean, if you can't take this, God damn.
02:27:35.000Yeah, I mean, if you're going to make a stance, like...
02:27:37.000Yeah, but I mean, I just remember, like, it's been over time, like, it's been, what, two hours?
02:27:41.000Like, I don't really remember the last thing, but I'm sure people didn't...
02:27:45.000Is it fair to say that you don't necessarily, maybe you don't agree, but you might have not liked the way things were said or made you feel a certain way?
02:28:26.000So that's why I had to give you a female one of you being kind of like turned off by finding out that your guy kissed a dude on one Halloween.
02:29:53.000Dressing provocatively as a woman or Building yourself up as a man to where you're even attractive enough for women to even want to fuck you in the first place and then on top of that having other women What's harder?
02:30:25.000But what I'm saying is that fantastic.
02:30:27.000So since we have to work, we're not on the same level.
02:30:30.000But still, you can't so connect with somebody if they're getting involved with multiple people, because that connection is going to dissipate.
02:31:00.000What you disagree with and reality are two different things.
02:31:03.000If you walk into a nightclub, and I like using a nightclub because it's the best example of carnal attraction, where are all the women concentrated?
02:35:51.000If I do all of that and he doesn't want me, I'm finding another man.
02:35:56.000No, what I'm saying is that you expect a man, right, to work his ass off, be attractive, be able to attract you, right, because you have high standards, right?
02:42:06.000Honestly like I feel like what I said is like what I mean but I think like the podcast was just like really like eye-opening like I got to see more of perspective like from like guys because like you guys like the way you ask questions and then like conversate with us I feel like we get to see like a little bit of how like guys think and feel okay and like the relationship sense and that's just like something I guess I normally wouldn't pay attention to or like just as girls it's like not something that's like normal.
02:42:35.000Do you think women put any effort into actually learning what men want in general?
02:42:39.000I think when you really care about the person, their personality-wise, yes, you do, because you want to learn stuff about their personality.
02:42:45.000Like, oh, your boyfriend likes this, so you go out of your way to do that for him, that kind of stuff.
02:42:49.000Yeah, but do women make them learn how to be more attractive in general to a majority of men?
02:42:54.000Do you think they actually do the work to do that?
02:42:57.000I'm confused on what you're trying to ask.
02:43:01.000Well, you said earlier that if you like the guy, you're going to work to find out what he's attracted to or whatever.
02:43:06.000What if I told you more men are very similar than you think?
02:43:10.000And we all pretty much think the same regardless of socioeconomic class.
02:43:15.000Actually, I'll take it a step further.
02:43:17.000The only difference between me and a guy that maybe might make a little bit less money or less status or whatever is that I have the ability to be honest with women and tell them what the fuck it really is.
02:43:26.000Whereas he might not be able to say that because the girl will leave him.
02:44:23.000But how many of those guys are guys that you actually are attracted to, you want to submit to, you want to be with long-term, and you find arousing and attractive at the same time?
02:47:47.000Like, if you can't critically think and you're having an issue and I'm tired and you're gonna, like, fucking just come in here and sulk, like, just get the fuck out of here, dude.
02:51:31.000I've been actually taking notes the whole time when you've been speaking.
02:51:33.000That's why I'm able to come to this conclusion.
02:51:34.000Oh, I see that, and I'm like, really, I'm like, yeah, that's professional as fuck.
02:51:37.000Oh, so wouldn't that be fair to say that not only am I listening to you, but I'm understanding your point, which is why I'm able to refute it in the first place, then tell you, hey, you lack critical thinking skills.
02:51:45.000No, because at the end of the day, that's your opinion.
02:51:48.000Everybody have their own opinion like you said earlier.
02:51:50.000I think it's pretty much a fact through the course of this podcast that you lack critical thinking skills.
02:52:27.000If you were a dude, life would be really hard for you.
02:52:29.000Does it make you feel better that you have to bully each and every one of us at this table by telling us we lack critical thinking or we're dumb or we're female?
02:52:36.000No, I'm telling you you lack critical thinking skills especially.
02:52:38.000No, but you went in on shorty one and shorty two over there before you went in on my ass.
02:52:43.000Well, she literally couldn't articulate any of her points.
02:52:46.000I challenged her points and then she said the default, I'm tired.
02:53:19.000Everything that she said was basically her own mindset, her own point of view.
02:53:24.000She said that at the end of the day, she's not a feminist, but she still believed that as a woman, we should carry ourself in a better way.
02:53:34.000And I, myself, I told you as a woman, I don't think that every woman should see themselves in the same way as someone else sees themselves.
02:53:54.000I think anyone with half a brain that watches this podcast throughout the course of the conversation can clearly tell that you lack critical thinking skills and you admitted that you lack critical thinking skills yourself.