Full Comment with Anthony Furey： The Transformation of Sex and Love in the Time of COVID
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If you ve been happily married throughout the pandemic, hopefully you ve just found renewed closeness. But what if you were searching for a significant other during lockdowns? What if going to strip clubs was what you did to relax on weekends? Well, today we re joined by three different guests to break down these issues. We ve got a relationship and sex columnist, a young woman who s going to tell us all about her dating escapades, and the owner of a strip club who s been fighting for his business and his employees. What s it like to break up during the Pandemic, go on dates, and then settle down with a new squeeze?
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Hey everyone, thanks for joining us for the latest installment of Full Comment with Anthony
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Fury. Throughout the pandemic, there has been great focus on the disruption to businesses,
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to kids, because of school closures, to mental health issues. Yes, all very important issues,
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but today we're taking a look at something different. Dating, relationships, love, sex,
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and more, all during the pandemic. If you've been happily married throughout, hopefully you've just
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found renewed closeness. But what if you broke up during lockdowns? What if you were searching for
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that significant other? What if going to strip clubs was what you did to relax on weekends? Well,
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today we're joined by three different guests to break down these issues. We've got a relationship
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and sex columnist, a young woman who's going to tell us all about her dating escapades,
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and the owner of a strip club who has been fighting for his business and his employees.
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What's it like to break up during the pandemic, go on dates, and then settle down with a new squeeze?
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We're joined now by Danielle from Toronto, a young woman who has just had that experience
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during the pandemic. She joins us now to tell us her story. Danielle, thanks for joining us.
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You know, I was saying earlier, I am in a situation where I've been in a marriage for a number of years,
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and that's just been the same. And the main logistical challenge for me that has changed is
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having the small children, you know, at home, not school, that sort of life disruption. You know,
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it's all relative to different people. There are other people, though, who are in situations where
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they're in the dating world or in your situation. You had a breakup during the pandemic. Tell us about that.
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I did. I did. I was seeing someone for about a year and a half. And to be perfectly honest,
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he wasn't the one. And I think a lot of those underlying issues kind of exacerbated as the
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pandemic arose. And we broke up in April ish of 2020.
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Wow, April 2020. So that was first lockdown, pretty tight lockdown. There was still a lot
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we didn't know about the pandemic, you know, who actually catches it? How bad is it going to be for
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us and so forth? What were you thinking at that time? You found yourself newly single.
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Did you go? Well, I'd like to start meeting some people because I'm single right now. Or you thought,
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nah, I don't know, this virus thing, not too sure. We're going to hold on for a bit.
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No, I have been surprisingly conservative through the pandemic. I am a very extroverted person. But
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at the very beginning, you know, partner or not, I had no desire to be out among people. You know,
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we didn't know what was going on. I was definitely of the camp that was still sanitizing my groceries
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when they came in the house. So that coupled with, you know, coming out of a year and a half breakup,
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I took a little bit of breathing room, but also a little bit of, you know, social distance.
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Right. So eventually, when you jump back into the pool, then the dating pool,
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what did you do first? Was it was it sort of online dating? You were just chatting with people on the
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phone? Or you did some zoom meetings and so forth? Tell me how that unfolded.
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So the first person I dated after the breakup, I think it would have been like June ish was a
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friend of a friend. We just started kind of talking on Facebook Messenger. I can't remember
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what the topic of conversation was. But we started talking. And we started hanging out. And suffice it
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to say that three months later, it did not go well, it did not work out. And then after that,
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I approached the online dating pool. So when you do first meet a person, I mean, right now,
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we're, of course, told, you know, don't see anybody who's not in your household or what have
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you in the stay six feet apart, and so forth. When you jumped into the first date mix, the first
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in person date situation with people, how did you handle that? Did you say, okay, we're going to do
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an outdoor walk, we're going to do park bench, I know you're referring to the summer. So places were
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open, patios and some indoor dining establishments. What was the pandemic calculation you made?
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I mean, so in my dating experience, it's been a lot of, you know, texting beforehand, you know,
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obviously being a millennial. But then after kind of breaking through that, and we're like, okay,
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this person is, you know, not a serial killer, and they're normal. Let's meet up for an outdoor
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coffee or a walk. And I think this at this time, it was it was very, it started to become clear to me
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that everyone's thresholds and tolerance for risk were very, very different. You know,
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we would meet up and some people would say, Oh, you should come over to my house. That's not
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happening. The first I remember the day the province announced we hit 700, which just feels
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like halcyon days now. But at the time, 700 was a big number. And I was walking towards meeting
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someone for a first date. And I was like, I can't back out now. I'm walking to meet him. And at coffee,
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he, he, you know, took the liberty of putting his hand on my lower back, which was did not go over
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well, let me tell you. And what was that a thing that you know, in the past, had there been a positive
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connection going on and reading the cues, you'd be like, Okay, well, that's okay. You know, there's
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some people who say, Okay, yes, we can't have the kiss or even more on the first date and so forth.
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I think it's really dependent on each person's relationship. I've learned so much more about
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consent through COVID, surprisingly, and you know, not just sexual consent. But I think the the
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pandemic consent or the social distance consent has entered so much more into the conversation.
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And so you get to put these barriers up a little bit. After that situation, I began to ask, you know,
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in the initial texting phase of a relationship, you know, what what are your pandemic or what are your
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what is your risk tolerance like? And actually, the person that I'm with now? And we had a phone
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call, you know, we had several hour long phone calls before, before meeting in person for the
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So would you say it was important to you that you guys were on the same page with pandemic
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rules? You wanted someone who who who took the same sort of level of caution as you did?
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Absolutely. And even just to the level of like, you know, don't hug me without asking me don't,
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you know, reach out and touch me don't take your mask off. Until we've we've established that this
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is okay between us. And, you know, as a woman, I think there is a bad habit that we've developed at
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at really putting aside our comfort in favor of making other people feel okay. But in in when it
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came to, you know, I could actually get sick, then I became a lot more stringent about, you know,
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And would you say just from from being in the dating pool, and then speaking to your friends,
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whether they were, you know, male or female, or, you know, whoever they were in pursuit of,
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out there sort of out in the dating pool, would you say that you were more conservative than average
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that you kind of represent the average? Where would you place your perspective?
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That is so tough to say, you know, because you're so indicative of your bubble and your group of
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friends. In my group, I would say I'm about the average. But over the course of the last few months,
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as I talked to people, I realized I'm definitely more on the conservative end of the spectrum.
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Just quite surprising. I never considered myself to be that kind of person.
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I mean, we hear stories for sure that one of the things that the police are doing is breaking up
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large indoor parties, basically nightclubs that are still going on against the rules,
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these sort of underground clubs and so forth. So I imagine also in the dating world,
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there's people who are totally throwing caution to the wind and doing, you know,
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whatever is advised against during the first date. I mean, what sort of stuff are you kind of seeing
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and hearing out there from, you know, what other people are doing?
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I mean, from one end of the spectrum, this is awful. I got a message from someone
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recently inviting me for group sex, which first of all is sexual harassment, by the way.
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But second of all, who is having group sex in a pandemic? Who is having multiple partners
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in a pandemic? Because this is, yeah, I can't even wrap my head around that one on multiple levels.
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I guess from the reports of various nightclub gatherings and so forth. I mean,
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yeah, the large gatherings are happening a lot out there, which is the focus of some of
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what the police are doing and so forth. Danielle, when you eventually did settle down with the
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person, tell me how that experience went. I take it all of those steps that you wanted to follow
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that this person was on the same page for. Yeah, exactly. I mean, right off the bat,
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there were a large number of people who I matched with online who had no interest in connecting over
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the phone or a Zoom date for the first time. Like they just were like, nope, not interested.
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And that's fine. You know, clearly we put that out of the way.
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They wanted to meet in the park for coffee right away or at the patio for beer kind of thing.
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Exactly, exactly. I remember when patios first opened, I was getting all sorts of invitations.
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Let's go for a beer. Let's grab a coffee. I'm like, the patio is just open. There is a long list of
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people who I want to see before I meet a stranger. You know, I've got my best friends I haven't seen
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in months. I'm not breaking my quarantine for you, some random from the internet. But my current
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partner, we, you know, as I said, our first date was a phone call, not even a video date for a few
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hours. Eventually, I think after like three, we ended up meeting on the last warm day of the year.
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I don't know if you remember back in November, we had that like 18 degree day. Yeah.
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And we had planned to meet up in the park, grab some beers from a local brewery and meet up in
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the park. And that was great. You know, he brought a whole picnic set. He brought little individual
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baggies of chips so that we didn't have to share. And I just felt so cared for. It was so considerate.
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And that really was indicative of who he is as a person as well.
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Did you feel it was a big deal when you guys ultimately decided, okay, we're going to have the
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the indoor date, someone's going to come over to someone's house for dinner or what have you. And if
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you're referring to end of November, I take it, all the places were already shut down pretty much
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by that point, or someone's going to come over to watch a movie or whatever that was. Was that like a
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was that like a big leap? I mean, it seems like almost with pandemic rules, that's comparable to,
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you know, moving in with a person or something.
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Yeah, definitely. It's a big, it's a big step, right? And a step that didn't exist before is am I going to let
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this person into my bubble? I mean, I live alone, I've been working from home, I'm very isolated.
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So I have the luxury of being able to say, you know, if I am in contact with this person,
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I can still isolate two weeks and not see anyone else. My family still lives in Vancouver. So it's
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not even like I'm seeing my family. Our second in person date, we actually ended up going to
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the zoo, there was a some light show thing going on. But the logistics there were do I Uber
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there and meet him? Or does he pick me up? You know, we're sitting in a car together
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for like half an hour ish. And that was the risk that we and that was really the hurdle, right?
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The you know, am I going to get into a car with this person because it's cold out? You know,
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two days later, it was snowing with all the windows closed. So we're breathing the same air. And this
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was all stuff that was going through my mind at the time.
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But you did it, you didn't take the Uber, you took the drive with him.
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Exactly. Yeah, he picked me up and it was an outdoor date. So even though we were in the car,
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we had that outdoor. And then after that, our relationship progressed at a much quicker pace,
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because we have gotten through that physical hurdle.
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So it looks like that was the right decision taking the car trip up then all turned out well.
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I think it would have turned out well, even if I had taken the Uber, to be honest, but
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Danielle, thanks so much for joining us to tell us your story.
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Your local small business has been taking the hits this past year and a half. And that includes
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not just clothing boutiques and restaurants, but strip clubs. They're small businesses too,
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and their employees pay their taxes. And while they have bills to pay as well,
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Rob Marciano knows this all too well as the manager of Club Pro, a strip club in Vaughn,
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in the greater Toronto area, that's been doing all it can to stay afloat the past year and a half.
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Rob joins us now. Hey, Rob, thanks for stopping by.
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It's going well, thanks. How's it going with you? Because right now, strip clubs remain closed in
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Ontario. They have been for, well, tell me, for how long?
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And, you know, we've been trying to make it work in any way possible.
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Pretty much. Like, we were able to open up our patios in June of 2020. And then towards the end of the summer,
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there was the announcement from the province that they were closing all adult entertainment establishments.
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And since then, we've been trying to operate as a restaurant and bar.
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And, you know, we actually ended up doing something crazy. We opened up a driving range in our parking lot.
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A driving range. So you have things set up there so people can hit some balls.
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They're nets and, you know, real good quality turf.
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I'm a golfer myself. So I like to, you know, we tried to create a place that would be something that I wouldn't mind going to hit balls at.
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Is it, you know, in the mood and theme of a strip club? Like, do some of the dancers work there as the staff at the range?
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Well, we're planning on doing something with our caddies.
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And, you know, we're trying to help out our dancers and entertainers and bar and waitstaff and kitchen.
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And we're trying to bring them back in any way, shape or form that we can.
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What's been the response from your regular customers and clientele?
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I mean, you guys are being shut down for quite some time now, getting on to a year and a half.
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I mean, do you hear from people who say, I want to go back?
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Or are there people who go, yes, we think strip clubs should be shut for pretty much longer than any other establishment?
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So we have our core group of regulars who keep the lights on.
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They really allowed for us to hold on to a lot of our staff while we were operating as a restaurant and bar.
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I know a lot of our competitors in the Greater Toronto Area just didn't see the point of trying to make it like that.
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But we have a very loyal following and, you know, they're kind of willing to support us in any way.
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So, Rob, what's your perspective on what the rules around strip clubs in Ontario and Canada in general during COVID should be right now?
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Because if you're talking about, you know, staying six feet apart and so forth, I mean, I understand the dancers, they do make a lot of their money giving dances and close contact and so forth.
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So I know some public health officials say, uh-uh, we just can't do that at all.
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I mean, you know, the science says that that's the way that we should operate.
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But what I didn't like what the province did was that, you know, there were some comments made by the mayor of Toronto saying that he believes that all strip clubs and adult entertainment venues should be closed.
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And, you know, 24 hours later, the province kind of laid the hammer down.
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Like, there wasn't any opportunity for us to course correct, you know, implement any kind of new protocols.
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I understand that they were worried about the contact tracing with people coming in and giving false names, false phone numbers.
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But from the start, we had a policy in place saying, you know, we want your government-issued ID when you can come in.
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Uh, so we, we knew who was coming in was who they said, said they were, but, you know, the, the province didn't really give us an opportunity to, to implement those, those protocols that would have solved their, their issues.
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So you feel that you could have been responsibly reopened at the same time restaurants and, you know, clothing stores, malls and other indoor facilities were reopened.
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Absolutely. And I mean, the lap dances are an issue, of course, that's fine.
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But what about the stage shows? Uh, you know, they're more than six feet apart.
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Uh, we wouldn't, we would have had to upgrade our, our sanitizing processes, but, uh, I didn't see an issue with that.
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Like if a guy wanted to come in and, and see a lovely lady on stage, like why would, wouldn't he be able to?
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And Rob, how have your employees, your wait staff, the dancers, how have they been responding to the pandemic?
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I guess they're eligible, of course, for the government support and so forth, but, uh, are they, are they eager to get back to work?
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Or if people just said, Oh, forget it. You know, I'm out of this sector. I'm, you know, I'm done with it.
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I mean, what's the general, uh, general feeling right now?
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Well, we have a lot of loyal staff that have been with us for, you know, 10, 15, 20 years, um, bartenders, kitchen, kitchen staff managers.
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Um, so they're, they're going to be coming back, but it's hard for them, especially the people who have mortgages, kids, right?
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Trying to survive off of serve alone is, is nearly impossible.
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And like, we've been trying to do everything in our power to bring them back, uh, whether it was from our patio.
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Then we opened up a, uh, a virtual restaurant that we tried to keep our kitchen staff, uh, employed.
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Um, but then it just got to the point where we weren't able to, to pay everybody.
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And then we had to shut down the, the virtual restaurant as well.
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And then that's when our team decided, you know what, golf probably won't be closed anytime soon.
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And as sure enough, like, uh, our, our driving range in the parking lot, that was our proverbial, uh, middle finger.
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And then they, uh, then they made going outside illegal.
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Rob, do you think that when the rules say strip clubs can reopen, do you think that the customers
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Because I imagine there are some people who say, I want them reopened right now, but there
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are other people, uh, who may be frequented strip clubs who go, I don't know.
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I don't feel good about, you know, the dancing, having the private dances right now and so forth.
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So I'm still going to hold back for, you know, a number of months or what have you.
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Uh, you know, we are going to lose some, some customers.
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Like we can definitely see that, um, whether it's people who have vulnerable family members,
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you know, they don't want to have that on their conscience coming here, potentially contracting
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something and then, and then bringing it back to family members.
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Um, but at the same time, like we are going to gain some people who are just starving for
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Uh, and you know what, it's, it's, it's a time that we need to innovate.
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We need to get creative and, um, put out a, put out a better product, put out a better
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Rob, I know the number of strip clubs in the greater Toronto area, and I imagine this is
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the same all across Canada and other, uh, major urban centers.
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The number has decreased in recent years, in recent decades, it's just not the same industry
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What do you think the pandemic has meant for your sector moving forward?
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Uh, well, there, this is going to accelerate the closure of a lot of these, you know, already
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Uh, we were very fortunate that the place was run correctly.
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Um, you know, we weren't, we weren't reliant on, you know, coming back full tilt as soon
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Like we can kind of get back to the drawing board and then aim correctly and fire.
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Rob Marciano, you're the manager of club pro in Vaughn in the greater Toronto area.
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Today's episode is a racy one, relationships, dating, and sex during the pandemic, during
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Our guest today, thankfully has all the insights, all the answers on these issues.
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Simone Padgett is a syndicated columnist with Post Media who covers every aspect of this
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Obviously most other countries in the world do as well.
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And at that time, I'm sure there were many people who were, uh, casually dating a couple
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people planning, Hey, let's go out for dinner the next week and so forth.
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They were ready to get out and, uh, and live the single life or to perhaps meet their life
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I mean, what, what, what was, what was the sense of people who were dating when that first
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Um, like from what I've heard from friends, like I, well, I'll tell you a bit, like what
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I actually like right before the pandemic, um, I went on a sex themed cruise as a press
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Um, it was, um, the temptation cruise and it's a topless optional cruise.
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Um, it's, you know, there's sex workshops, there's like a playroom where couples can go
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in and have like, have sex in a sort of semi-public space.
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Like it was a very like, you know, different environment, um, within like, I got back from
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that, um, I guess at the end of February and I actually got really sick.
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I didn't, um, so I was kind of like sick for, um, a couple of weeks there.
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So, uh, I didn't, I kind of went from like, like crazy observing, like these crazy sort
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of like sexual, like adventures to like full on lockdown.
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Um, so I wasn't really dating anyone at the time and I kind of went into hibernation until
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Um, I think like everyone's had different experiences.
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I know, um, a lot of single friends who have continued to date and talk to people throughout
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Um, I think at, from what I've heard, um, a lot of people are having more, um, they're
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They're getting to know people more before they actually meet up, um, which I don't think
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is a bad thing, especially given like what we've talked about with like Me Too and, um,
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actually giving like the chance for you to like suss out a person, get to know them like
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over FaceTime or like Zoom dates, um, and see if you actually, you know, connect with
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Um, I also know that could be a good thing moving forward, like to keep that post pandemic.
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And, um, I wrote about recently in one of my columns that, um, the majority of, uh, I
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believe it was Hinge, the dating site Hinge, um, are actually going to keep doing video dates
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even after it's like safe to go out and meet in person.
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Um, because there's a couple of reasons, like it does give you that sort of like, just
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sort of initial like vibe check to see like, if you, do you want to go out in a public place
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Um, do you have anything to like, is there any kind of spark there?
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Um, and also like, it's, it's less of a risk for health reasons, but also like it's cheaper.
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Like you could have a glass of wine at home and talk to someone on your computer or your
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Um, isn't that so unromantic though to say, you know, bring your own bottle of wine and
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It isn't, it isn't like people are actually saying because they're in their homes and
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relaxed, they're actually having better conversations.
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Um, and I have done a little bit of like video dating, like in the summer, um, last summer
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I got quite into doing like zoom dating and zoom speed dating.
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And I did make a connection with someone and we kind of had this, like, we, we actually
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never ended up meeting up, but we had this sort of like two month long phone and like
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Um, and it actually was kind of, it was a kind of a nice throwback to the days, like
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of being, I don't know if you remember like being like a teenager or like in your early
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twenties and having these like long phone conversations with like the person you were dating or like
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the person you had a crush on and you kind of end up talking more and it was really kind
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Um, so I think that is happening, but also people are going out to meet people, um, in
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public, um, they're doing like socially distant, you know, going for a walk or like a date to
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like the dog park, um, and you know, or maybe going to like an outdoor dining experience, like
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depending on how safe they feel, um, which is nice too.
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But I think, um, what's interesting is like how this ties into me too, is people are seem
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to be more comfortable now having the conversations about like, Hey, so we're meeting up.
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Are we going to, you know, how are we going to like conversation?
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And I think that's like kind of like a positive thing is like, maybe if the me too movement
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hadn't happened, we wouldn't be able to have these, like, it would be a bit more difficult.
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I mean, it's already a bit awkward, like to say, you know, ask the person ahead of time,
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but when you put like health on the table, um, then, you know, it makes it.
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You can say on the first date, you know, are you going to wear a mask?
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But on the first date, it's a bit presumptuous to say who's bringing the condom.
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But, um, and everyone should always bring the condoms.
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Um, someone, let me ask you about, about sort of volume of people in the dating pool.
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Like I I'm sure back, you know, March, 2020, everyone was like, Oh, stay home.
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And of course for two weeks or three weeks or whatnot, there was just the general fear about,
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But at a certain point people said, okay, you know, got to put my toe in the water again.
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What, what was, what, what's your impression of what that was like?
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I mean, was there a greater volume of people suddenly doing online dating?
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I mean, are there people who are just like, look, yes, I'm, I'm single.
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What, what was, what was the general do I, or do I not response?
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Um, so, I mean, it's, it's different for everyone.
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Um, the stats that I've seen that have been sent to me show that dating like on apps and
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stuff, like the volume has remained the same in some cases has actually gone up because
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people are like at home, bored, looking to connect with people, looking to connect with
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Um, as far as like people actually meeting up in person, like, I don't know, I haven't
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seen any statistics about how many people are actually going from the apps to meeting in
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person, um, myself, like I kind of have taken a step back and completely removed myself
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And, um, just because like, I live with someone who is like in like a high risk category.
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So for me, it just doesn't seem like for me, it just wasn't worth it.
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So there's a lot to factor in, not just in terms of your own dating life, but then to your
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point, how it's affecting others going about and meeting other people.
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And I'm like, is it worth like me going on some date with some person I don't even know
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Um, but I think now to like the people like me who've kind of taken a step back now that
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Um, there is going to be those people who kind of hibernated are going to have like a return
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Um, and that, that will be interesting, but like it hasn't slowed down at all.
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It's just like, I don't know what's happening like on the ground, like with people actually
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I can only say like, I know some friends have been going on these kinds of socially distant
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Um, well, you gotta think, you know, there's the hyper cautious people, but there are people
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And I know there's not a lot of stats out about, you know, people doing stuff when they
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really shouldn't be, but I can tell you, you go and search on all these different online
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Kijiji places and I'm not looking to rat anyone out or get anyone charged here, but if you
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want someone to come over to your house to, to give you a haircut or for instance, you
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can find that there's a whole underground economy going on, uh, all across Canada right
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I've got to think there's similar things going on with the hanky panky.
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Like, um, and it's kind of interesting cause it is also like coming out as like people
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Um, there's like, this is not related to like what I write about necessarily, but there is
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like a popular Instagram account called, um, gaze over COVID and it's basically, um, it
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was sort of spawned by like that accident that happened in Puerto Vallarta where there was
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like a party boat, um, full of guys, um, that ended up sinking and it kind of brought
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up this like idea that there's still people out there, um, of all different sexual orientations,
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having like sex parties and, um, partying and like hooking up.
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And there's always going to be people who are like, are much more comfortable with risk.
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And I guess the question is how does one move forward?
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Because when, when lockdown restrictions are over and when the pandemic is more or less
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behind us, I mean, there, there's going to be sort of lingering cautiousness among many
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I don't know what the percentage is, a sizable percentage of the population.
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And then there's going to be those others who've always thrown caution to the wind anyway.
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And you're all going to be on the same dating apps or having the same potential to meet each
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And it'll be curious, uh, to see how those sort of social cues are navigated.
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Um, yeah, and I've noticed, um, this is like more information that was sent to me from dating
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apps was, um, a lot of people are listing their like vaccination status in their profile
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Um, I think that should be like a mandatory tick box on the dating thing.
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Like, you know, you know, say vaccinated or not click kind of thing.
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Um, I don't, I don't know, because like, I think it's dangerous to do that because there
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are some people who can't get vaccinated for like other extenuating health circumstances.
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And I think you don't want to create this like sort of two tier, um, system where people
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who aren't able to get vaccinated either due to access or because of a health issue are like
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Um, but I do think it means like, you have to have that conversation with the people you're
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Like, I want to know if I go out with someone like, Hey, are you vaccinated or how do you
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Like what, how have you behaved during the pandemic?
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Like, I want to know, like, are they, have they been kind of, you know, like most people
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kind of laying low or are they the kind of person who's like going and doing stuff that
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Simone Padgett, this has been such a fantastic conversation.
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Thank you so much for joining us for your syndicated calmness with Postmedia covering
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