‘Islamofascism-phobia’ and the Iranians standing with Israel
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In the wake of the Iranian terrorist attack against Israel on Oct. 7th, a voice has emerged from one of the oddest places: the backbenches of Ontario's legislature. Goldie Gamari, an Iranian-Canadian MP who represents a rural Ontario riding, has stepped up to the plate to speak out against the Iranian regime.
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just over four years ago now iran shot down ukrainian international airlines flight ps752
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on board were 55 canadian citizens 30 permanent residents many people were iranian nationals who
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had moved away who had gone home for the naruz holiday for a time with family and friends they
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were taken out of the sky by the iranian revolutionary guard corps a group that many believe
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is a terrorist organization but one that the trudeau government has so far refused to designate
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as such since that time a voice has emerged from one of the oddest places the back benches of
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ontario's legislature goldie gamari an mpp who represents a rural ottawa riding suburban and
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rural you might say in ottawa carlton has become one of the strongest voices on this issue and then over
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the last several months as we've been dealing with the protests and the counter protests against the
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hamas terrorist attack against israel on october 7th she has stepped up even more an iranian canadian
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standing with israel to defend what she believes is the right thing many people are noticing and
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that's why we want to speak to goldie gamari today goldie thanks for the time thank you brian thanks
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for having me on the show it's um it it's not a shock to me that you're uh being so strong on this
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i met you probably about eight years ago when you were just getting into politics when you were more on
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the activist and less on the uh elected side but also have known you is since you were first elected
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in 2018 but what is it that makes you uh stand up and as you're doing this week speak out against
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executions of dissidents in iran like reza rasai or speak out against those who are celebrating
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uh soleimani the the terrorist general that was taken up by the americans uh what four years ago
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so i think for me it's really important to speak out against this because you know even though i'm a
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provincial politician and you know international uh foreign policy or government affairs intergovernmental
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affairs isn't really within the provincial jurisdiction um you know as an iranian canadian as someone whose
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parents uh came to canada in 1980 in 1986 to escape an islamo-fascist brutal dictatorship um given that
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now i have this platform i i kind of feel it's like it's almost like my responsibility my obligation to
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to speak out against this because what we're seeing happening in iran isn't just affecting people in iran
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it's also impacting canadians like for example just like you said with uh the islamic regime in iran
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shooting down ukraine flight ps752 four years ago killing 55 canadians and 30 permanent residents i mean
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that impacted canadians uh we're also seeing reports coming out by dozens of families dozens of families
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i mean so many so many people and you know everyone was impacted everyone knows someone
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who was impacted by this and here even in canada we're seeing the rcmp come out and confirm that um
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there is foreign interference happening by the islamic regime uh in iran in canada we're also seeing a
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report a news report from cbc recently that came out saying that the cbsa has not only blocked dozens of
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iranian officials connected with the irgc from entering canada they're also investigating at least
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100 people in canada with ties to the islamic regime in iran let's talk about your backstory
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then you mentioned your parents came to canada in 1986 but so did you you were born in iran and came
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here at a very young age i'm not trying to give away your age here goldie but you came here at a very
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young age and were raised in the suburbs of toronto it's it's it's public i'm 38
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well let let's talk about that about not not about your age being 38 but this you know why did your
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parents come to canada why uh did they decide that you know iran which had undergone the revolution in
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1979 um why did they feel that that they needed to escape to somewhere like canada um in in the
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richmond hill area outside of toronto well so we have to go back to i guess the 70s my dad actually
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left iran um as a teenager to go to texas and uh got his degree in electrical engineering at texas
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southern university uh in houston and he lived and he got his master's degree there as well so he lived
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there for close to a decade and after he was done and when he went back to iran the islamic revolution
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had already happened so you can imagine um how different the country was for him you know having
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lived in in texas in the 70s and then going back to a country that was very very different than
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one he had left and initially he did try to make a life there for himself he married my mother
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i was born um but just the conditions were not good there was also the iran iraq war happening at that
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time and there was just no safety and he just said to himself there's no way that i can raise a daughter
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in this sort of society that mistreats women you know he can't raise a daughter in a society
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that uh puts people in jail and uh you know just discriminates and is just you know a brutal
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dictatorship so uh he decided that well yeah i think you know let if we can expand on that point
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for a moment i think most of us will have seen the photos of what iran was like in the 70s before
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the revolution and how women dressed how women interacted in society compared to after the
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revolution i mean your mother prior to 1979 had great freedom and after 1979 had next to none 100
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i mean i see um i always enjoy seeing old family photos from before 1979 because it just it looks like
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a photo that could have been taken anywhere in canada in europe in the states you know people
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uh were dressed just however they wanted to dress and and people were free like that was the thing
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like women were free to wear the hijab or not wear the hijab you know like in my old family photos you
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know there were some uh some who did you know wear wear a headscarf but again it wasn't like the full-on
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sort of black chador that we see right now which is just sort of overshadowing and overblanketing
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uh you know the entire woman um but there was a lot of freedom like that you know there's pictures of
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um female mps you know dressed fantastically like just so fashionable you know you look at pictures
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of people on the beach you know women in bikinis um there were theaters there were clubs there were
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lounges it was basically just like going to any other european country um and after 1979 all of that
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changed the entire thing changed and it just went from a very free liberal secular democratic society
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which is something that the um the shah of iran at the time had worked very hard on to sort of
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modernize and secularize iran um from the 50s to the 70s and bring iran up to sort of a western
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liberal standard but after 1979 not only did it go back uh in time it went back almost like a thousand
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years in time to where you know now for example a woman is not allowed to leave the country uh without
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the um permission of her husband um a woman is not allowed to um go to a soccer stadium and watch a
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game um women are not allowed to divorce without the consent of their husband like it's just and these
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are just but i i bet it doesn't go the other way hundred percent not of course not of course not
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it uh you know there's there's a term that we refer to it like what's happening in iran it's
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basically a gender apartheid um it's a gender apartheid and um the reason that the islamic regime
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in iran goes after women like this is is um to control and subdue and divide and conquer basically
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so you know think of the handmaid's tale if you think of the handmaid's tale um sort of similar
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to that in the sense that women have absolutely zero rights um and i mean you've heard about the
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morality police right the morality police are these groups of plain clothes people and they basically
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go around in unmarked vehicles and unmarked vans and um anyone that they feel who isn't dressed
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properly um they can grab and take away and you know do god knows what to them and that's exactly
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what happened to massa amini um september of last year in 2023 sorry 2022 um where she was dragged away
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for not wearing the compulsory hijab properly i mean she was wearing hijab um and then you know she was
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perfectly healthy but it just wasn't worn properly yeah the whoever arrested her at that time just
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decided that she wasn't wearing it properly which you know again it's so like like there's no laws
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there there's nothing like that so um they dragged her away and she was and for that she was beaten to
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death exactly she was beaten to death she was in a coma for several days and then unfortunately she
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passed away and you know that kind of trickles back to why i'm so outspoken about this because i look at
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what's happening in iran i look at massa amini i look at rizzo rasai who we don't even know if he's
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been executed but i mean we're waiting for news to come out everyone is sick to their stomachs about
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this um you know i look at the the people on ukraine flight ps752 i mean that could have been me that
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could have been my family that could have been my brother my cousin right so that that's why i'm also
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really outspoken because what they're doing what the islamic regime is doing to the people of iran we look
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at this and we think that could be any one of us and if we don't speak out we could be next
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you know a lot of people would say well that's just iran and we don't need to have that bothering us
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here in canada so why talk about it but goldie i was writing a column the other day on the anniversary
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of the takedown of ps752 and i said here's why we need to start speaking out more about the
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islamic republic of iran and the regime in tehran and that is because they export death and destruction
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everywhere and it's not just the taking down of a plane with 55 canadian citizens and 30 permanent
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residents it's they're exporting war to yemen where they're doing a proxy war uh backing the houthis
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against uh um you know another group backed by saudi arabia they exported war and destruction to
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syria where they're backing the uh the asad regime they are the key supporters of hezbollah
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in lebanon which has turned you know a beautiful country uh and a capital city that used to be known
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as the paris of the mediterranean into a place that nobody wants to go um they were the key backers of
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of of hamas when they launched their october 7th attacks and you you made mention of this and i want
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to hear more about it the the ongoing political political interference and harassment of canadians
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in this country this is something this is one of the reasons that harper government cut off diplomatic
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ties with iran is they said your diplomats are doing nothing but harassing canadian citizens wasn't
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the only reason but that was part of it and they said you're out you're not welcome here yes 100 100
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the trudeau government in my view has been extremely naive in trying to make up to iran since 2016
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and since yes since well late 2015 when they took office and in the four years since ps752 was shut
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down they haven't been very strong at all so tell tell us what's happening in the iranian canadian
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community whether it's in the toronto area or in vancouver or elsewhere because you know my
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understanding is there have been kidnapping plots uncovered there have been murder attempts
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that on top of the just the daily harassment that's basically telling you to shut up or else
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yeah i mean where where do i start on this um you know it's interesting i i remember the day that i
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became a staunch conservative i remember the day that i stopped voting left because you know the saying
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goes you know when you're younger you vote with your heart when when you get older you vote with your mind
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or your brain i actually remember the day that i became a staunch conservative do you want to take
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a guess brian i actually can't that's okay so uh you actually mentioned it so when stephen harper shut
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down the iranian embassy in ottawa was the day that i became a staunch conservative because at that point
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i felt like finally there is a government that understands what iranian canadians are going
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through that realizes the significance of the threat of the islamic regime uh to iranian canadians
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and is actually doing something about it and for me that was the day that i was like okay like
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this it's it's it's go time like i started voting conservative after that and you know started
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paying a little bit more attention to um to politics and what's what's going on i was actually
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in my that was um 2012 would have been my third year of law school so uh you know i i became
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conservative uh towards the end of my education um which is uh you know just a good thing i think for
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me because you know with the way universities are being taught you know these days yeah but that's a
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whole other topic um but uh but but so the the threat is real the danger is real there are uh you
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know many iranians are afraid to speak out because of the fact that their family is still in iran and
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the islamic regime has no problem in um going after people in canada by threatening to put their family
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members in jail or actually putting their family members in jail in iran um there is no due process
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there's no rule of law uh the kidnapping plots 100 percent um that is a real thing uh you know we
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see what happened in the states um with masyadi nijad and the fbi um in canada recently just a few
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months ago there's an iranian canadian uh well tell tell us a little bit about that so tell us a little
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about her because she has spoken about what iranian dissidents in canada deal with compared to her
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yeah so uh masyadi nijad is um an iranian uh who lives in the united states she has been um very
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outspoken about what's happening uh inside inside the islamic regime in iran um you know and and i just
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want to qualify this you know within the iranian diaspora there are those who um view her as you
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know maybe trustworthy maybe not but that's but that's besides the point i i think that's um
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irrelevant but um i just want to put it out there for any iranians listening but essentially what
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happened is she's been very outspoken uh against the islamic regime in iran and the fbi actually
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informed her a couple years ago that they had thwarted a plot to kidnap her apparently they
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were going to take her by boat to somewhere in south america and then fly her over uh to the
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islamic regime in iran so they can deal with her so now she is under pretty much 24 7 fbi supervision
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um within canada there are a number of individuals who are currently um at risk or uh being monitored
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and supervised um by security officials and rcmp uh because they recognize that there is this this
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threat this imminent danger um i mean just just in the news a few days ago or i think it was last week
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it came out that um uh the uh border services agency for the united states actually uh caught
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an iranian who was trying to get into the states at the border and apparently this iranian uh is
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connected to money laundering schemes for the islamic regime in iran in canada so that's something
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that's being dealt with and people go okay well money so what but we have to think about
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where this money goes where it's being funded how it's being used um the islamic regime in iran
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is the biggest well it's it's money laundering so that so that they can fund terrorism 100 they are
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the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world um you know you mentioned hamas the houthis
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hezbollah isis al-qaeda the taliban um there's also uh nigeria and and africa as well i mean i don't
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know if you've heard about what's happening in nigeria um there's a huge massacre happening there
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right now um christian nigerian christians are being massacred and interestingly enough after
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october 7 on october 14 um the islamic regime in iran invited the top shia cleric of nigeria
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to go visit them in tehran and they had a meeting to talk about how they can continue to expand
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um you know shia islam in in africa and the middle east and around the world we've got to take a quick
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break here goldie but when we come back i do want to ask you about um not only your activism on this
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file but speaking up against uh what the folks in iran call the little satan you have been very strong
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in support of israel since the attacks on october 7th and you face backlash over that so i want to
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talk to you about why you're standing up for it and the backlash when we come back
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responsibly in the wake of the october 7th attacks uh goldie you decided to start speaking out not just
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on foreign affairs matters as they relate to iran and iranian canadians you were speaking out in
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support of israel you have posted videos you have documented what you say are examples of anti-semitism
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on the streets of um you know one of your i use the term in air quotes colleagues ndp former ndp mpp sarah
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jama taking part in a a demonstration that went up bay street in toronto celebrating the attacks of
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october 7th you have spoken at a rally at queen's park where police told you you know you should
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really shut this down because um uh this is uh not safe you're not safe here so we we can't protect
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you so so you should stop well you didn't we'll get into that but why is um uh a woman from an
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iranian canadian family with a muslim background um standing up for israel at this time when so many
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people would say well that just doesn't make sense to me so the history between israel and iran goes
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back thousands of years uh you know 2700 years ago uh cyrus the great who was the founder of the
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persian empire released the the jews from their babylonian enslavement and he took them back to
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the promised land helped them build the second temple in jerusalem and provide them with soldiers
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and protection and uh you know the jewish people were also able to live in the persian empire freely
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and ever since then there's always been a very strong friendship and connection between
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um jewish people and the iranian people prior to 1979 there were over 100 000 uh jewish iranians
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living inside of iran um and they had the same freedoms that everyone else had after the 1979
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um islamic revolution when the islamic regime took over everything changed um that there's a really
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fantastic movie called um september of shiraz and it's it's based uh loosely based on the story of
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an iranian jewish family during the 1979 revolution what happened to them uh how the islamic regime seized
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all of their assets uh tortured them uh and then basically they had to uh escape the country with
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just what they were carrying on their backs um so you know for 44 years 45 years now the islamic regime
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in iran has uh said that the united states is the big satan and israel is the little satan um you know
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when you want to talk about indoctrination for 45 years they've tried to indoctrinate iranians um you
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know saying death to america death to israel it's not a meme it's not a joke that's literally what's
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chanted in schools um you know they make school children chant chant that um they put on these
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state-sponsored um protests quote-unquote where people chant death to america death to israel
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and you know what happened in october 7 this this genocidal massacre by by hamas uh it was it was so
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horrifying but for the vast majority of iranians uh not just around the world but inside of iran
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uh we knew exactly where this was coming from we knew this was coming from the islamic regime in
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iran um they have an agenda they have a vendetta uh you know all this talk about the zionist regime
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and the zionist yeah propaganda propaganda or whatever the case like all that language that
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ideology comes from uh the islamic regime in iran in fact the islamic regime in iran one week after
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the revolution they created al-quds day which is basically an anti-semitic hate fest that is you
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know celebrated by by islamic regime radicals um in not just in iran but in canada which to me is
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actually horrifying but you know after the october 7 massacre uh the the hashtag iranians stand with
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israel started trending um on on x and on other social media platforms iranians were going out in
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droves to to support and speak out and that's because uh we are not the enemies of of the the
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jewish people we don't hate israel uh the islamic regime in iran uh which is fighting israel is also
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fighting iranians so you know we're on the same side and we understand that the the money and the
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funds that are used to arm hamas is blood money stolen from iranian people so we're basically fighting
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the same fight the same enemy and in fact during the the massa amini protests there is only one country
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in the world uh one country in the middle east that stood with the people of iran and that was israel
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israel is the only democracy in the middle east in fact um our our crown prince or you know shah
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reza pahlevi the second he has visited israel in the past um we know that if we want peace in the
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middle east the the key to that is not just to eradicate hamas but it's to go after the head
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of the octopus which is the islamic regime anyway you've documented some of what you've seen in the
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protest because to go right by your office to go by you know close to where you live when you're in
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toronto and you've posted on this on various social media that's caused some headaches for you with
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claims from national council of canadian muslims that you're islamophobic um what's your answer
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to that i'm not islamophobic um i am islamofascist phobic i guess if you want to say um i will always
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call out terrorism i will always call out anti-semitic behavior i will always call out hate um you know
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something that was really shocking for me is when october 7 happened um there were people out in the
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streets celebrating um not just in in in you know and i'm not talking about gaza i'm talking about
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toronto i'm talking about miss i was there i watched it just very shocking to me and on october 9 as i was
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walking my dog um i was shocked to see a a and it wasn't a protest it was a celebration rally like the
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the advertisement for that rally said let come out and celebrate our martyrs glory to the martyrs i mean
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this was well before uh israel even came up with with a response or or uh you know defense of of that
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brutal massacre people were out there celebrating and sarah jama to be in that celebration to me was
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just very very shocking because it was just so hateful so just just vile i mean i mean that's the
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kind of behavior i would expect to see inside of the islamic regime in iran by the islamic regime
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not iranians because the difference is inside of iran there has not been a single uh spontaneous
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demonstration from iranians in fact after october 7 iranians were putting up flags of israel all
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around iran in support of the people of israel because they they know they know where this is coming
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from and yet in canada we're seeing people who were celebrating hamas
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let's just define the term islamo-fascist phobic so are you talking about people who use
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um islamo in a very harsh political sense a very uh strict interpretation of it in a very political
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way as opposed to the religion that you know i i know that you do not practice but that some of your
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family members still do the vast majority of my family members still practice islamic my grandmother
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is a devout muslim and she is one of the kindest purest sweetest women that i know and um
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she she does not hate anyone she does not hate israel you know the vast majority of muslims um
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have you know are not like this at all like it's it's sorry the vast majority of muslims are not like
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um like what we're seeing out on the streets with with that hateful behavior the vast majority of
00:29:21.220
muslims are just like everyone else they just want to live a regular normal life there's no hatred
00:29:26.160
there's nothing like that but again there's so the islamic regime in iran is is islamo-fascist
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and i'm going to define that so the word islamo-fascist in farsi is velayat afari now what is it it's
00:29:40.700
basically fascism but with a religious angle to it because what they have done is is they have
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created this quote-unquote guardianship of the juristic council where they have a supreme leader
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in this case the supreme leader is uh hominy and they believe quote-unquote that the supreme leader
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is the word of god on earth so any sort of law within the country uh anyone who runs for office
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any courts um anything anything whatsoever uh has to be approved by the supreme leader so
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everyone anyone who says oh it's a democracy oh there's like elections it doesn't matter it's all
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bogus and what these people have done i don't think they're muslim i don't think they're religious but
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what they have done is they have taken the religion and they have politicized it in order to legitimize
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their control and uh authenticity i guess you want to call it over the people
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it's it's a it's basically a brutal dictatorship um hiding behind the face of so uh quote-unquote
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religion but that's why i always want to make that distinction because you know um it's i'm not
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speaking about the religion i'm speaking about the political ideology that is is using religion to
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uh export terrorism around the world let's talk about change in the regime um in iran
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is that possible and are there things that canadians can do to help um i know there's been
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you know pressure on the trudeau government to list the irgc as a terrorist entity something that
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they've refused to do although you know at the recent four-year anniversary of ps752 the prime
00:31:42.380
minister said we'll look into it um there have been attempts at street protests including after
00:31:49.020
the uh the brutal murder of mashamini there were attempts about a decade ago and i remember people
00:31:55.460
calling on the obama administration to get behind the dissidents is there an actual dissident movement
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in iran that could bring about change because this has been as you say a long 45 years of
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a brutal dictatorship so i'm going to answer that in two parts the first part is the best way that
00:32:16.300
canadians can help um iranians and also help themselves and help keep their own country safe
00:32:22.860
is by putting pressure on justin trudeau to put the islamic revolutionary gar corps uh which is the
00:32:30.700
paramilitary branch of of uh the islamic regime in iran on the terror list in canada because what that
00:32:38.720
would do is that would effectively prevent the islamic regime in iran from doing business
00:32:45.560
in canada it would allow um uh the canadian government to seize assets to to freeze the funding
00:32:53.560
um you know put them back on the sanctions list that would be the best way because you know iranian
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people they're not asking for world war three they're not asking for anyone to to get involved
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militarily but what they are saying is stop enabling the terrorists stop meeting with them
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right like why did i i still don't understand this one month after ukraine flight ps752 shot down uh
00:33:22.080
sorry was shot down by the islamic regime in iran one month later justin trudeau is meeting with the
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foreign affairs minister at that time jabod zarif shaking his hand bowing his head smiling laughing
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taking taking pictures with him and when i saw that i was sick to my stomach and i was thinking
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how is this even possible how is it possible that the islamic regime shot down a plane killing 50 over
00:33:47.440
50 canadians and a month later you're out there shaking his hand like shame on you shame on you
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but he did that and i i don't understand why and and he still refuses to put the irgc on the terrorist list
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uh he's just sort of dragging it along is it just them being naive i don't think so it can't be naivete
00:34:06.680
at this point it simply cannot be like like iranians we've been sounding the alarm on this
00:34:11.660
no i don't think so i think there's something else going on i don't know what it is but i think
00:34:16.140
i think there's something else going on here i don't i mean if i had to make an educated guess
00:34:21.340
look at the number of iranians that are immigrating to canada with with money the the term that i've heard
00:34:27.280
used for that is that um officials with the iranian revolutionary guard corps are snow washing
00:34:33.480
their money in canadian real estate and capital markets that was the the phrase used by shuvaloy
00:34:39.520
majumder who used to be with the mcdonald laurie institute now recently elected mp from from calgary
00:34:45.540
for the conservatives he's been speaking about this for years and he says they've been snow washing
00:34:50.660
their money in canada and then they're allowed to live here so and this is something that once exposed
00:34:57.120
i'll give full credit to global news they did the the yeoman's work on this well then the trudeau
00:35:02.820
government started saying oh we'll look into it but they knew about it for years because people were
00:35:07.780
talking and you've got one of the leaders of the the police in tehran living in canada working out at
00:35:15.440
the gym uh next to women who are dressed in ways that he would have them beaten for in his old job
00:35:21.160
um this just seems like we you know we we've closed our eyes to to the reality of what's going on
00:35:28.360
100 100 i mean that that guy that terrorist working out at the gym and not only would he have them
00:35:36.540
beaten he would have them executed like that man is responsible or i shouldn't say man because he's not
00:35:41.600
human that terrorist is responsible for you know the deaths of 40 000 people if not more like it's just
00:35:48.520
it's horrific to see these people here and i don't think it's naivete what is the answer i don't know
00:35:54.560
uh i think uh shiv majumdar is definitely onto something um you know again like until someone
00:36:02.360
actually goes in and uh officially looks at it but i mean within the iranian community in canada we know
00:36:08.540
like it's just it doesn't make sense for certain people to come here with so much money and they just
00:36:14.300
buy these million dollar homes and and these you know billion dollar um uh assets i mean where is
00:36:21.120
this money coming from what's being done with it so it's it's very concerning it's very shocking
00:36:27.320
and they're also coming here and keeping tabs on on uh iranian canadians here so so in that sense
00:36:35.540
it's very shocking do you think that part of the foreign interference that we've discussed earlier
00:36:41.460
is why the trudeau government is the way it is and i'll point to 2016 um i was in a scrum with
00:36:49.920
stefan dion who was still justin trudeau's foreign affairs minister and he was talking about the need to
00:36:55.760
improve relations with russia saying that stephen harper had ruined relations with russia and we
00:37:01.880
really should be improving them uh with vladimir putin um it was shocking to hear then and it's even
00:37:07.720
more shocking now in hindsight but he said the same thing about the iranian regime and he said that
00:37:13.220
um it it was naive and ideological what harper did kicking out the diplomats a short time later
00:37:21.740
dion is in a meeting in richmond hill with people with connections to the iranian regime and that meeting
00:37:30.100
was facilitated by an iranian canadian liberal mp is this a case of the liberals being captured by the
00:37:39.960
the dark side of diaspora politics on this file i know exactly which uh which iranian canadian mp are
00:37:47.840
talking about i'm not going to bring his name up because uh you know we all know who he is and what
00:37:53.980
he's like he's actually the one who also tried to uh he also created a petition to try and reopen
00:38:00.540
the islamic regime embassy in canada and you know showed his true colors that way um i don't think i
00:38:08.480
don't think for for trudeau or dion this is about diaspora politics i would say for them it's i mean
00:38:15.120
the most logical uh thing for me if i had to make an educated guess would be they just care about the
00:38:19.840
money you know if it if it's if it brings money in if it's you know good for their pocketbooks i guess
00:38:27.320
i mean i can't see them really thinking about anything else other than than money here and you
00:38:34.180
know given some of the economic migrants we've seen coming from iran i mean that to me is the most
00:38:40.500
logical logical thing and and again it's shameful it's very shameful but you know i think with with
00:38:45.560
the liberals uh federally the writing is on the wall um you know four or five years ago pretty
00:38:51.600
much every single iranian um would would have been a liberal um but now it's it's pretty much
00:38:58.760
the opposite and every day more and more when i go out to events um whether it's in ottawa or in
00:39:04.440
toronto or anywhere else richmond hill um and there's iranians there the one thing that i am
00:39:09.280
predominantly hearing is we are never voting liberal again we're never voting liberal again and i think
00:39:15.040
that's why trudeau is now sort of maybe realizing okay maybe i um misjudged this and i actually do
00:39:25.160
think that he's been playing politics with iranian people iranian canadians and i have a feeling that
00:39:30.320
prior to the next election he's going to put the irgc on the terrorist list in order to uh win back some
00:39:37.780
of that iranian vote and if he does that you know shame on him shame on him for playing politics with
00:39:45.360
the the lives of iranian canadians shame on him for playing politics with uh with the blood money of
00:39:52.900
the people of iran um because i think i think even if he does that people will realize it for what it is
00:39:59.980
and and i don't think they're going to vote for him he's lost all confidence um for iranian canadians
00:40:06.280
it will be another example of canadian foreign policy being driven by diaspora politics which is
00:40:11.980
sadly what trudeau has reduced our foreign policy to goldie um there's so much more that we could
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discuss we could keep talking for a lot longer but i thank you for your time today and um i know i'll
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continue to follow you on social media and and what you have to say and i encourage the audience to do
00:40:29.800
the same thanks for the time thank you so much for having me on i really appreciate it full comment is a
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