Full Comment - ‘Islamofascism-phobia’ and the Iranians standing with Israel

00:00:00.000 just over four years ago now iran shot down ukrainian international airlines flight ps752

00:00:19.440 on board were 55 canadian citizens 30 permanent residents many people were iranian nationals who

00:00:27.360 had moved away who had gone home for the naruz holiday for a time with family and friends they

00:00:33.900 were taken out of the sky by the iranian revolutionary guard corps a group that many believe

00:00:39.120 is a terrorist organization but one that the trudeau government has so far refused to designate

00:00:43.620 as such since that time a voice has emerged from one of the oddest places the back benches of

00:00:50.680 ontario's legislature goldie gamari an mpp who represents a rural ottawa riding suburban and

00:00:58.620 rural you might say in ottawa carlton has become one of the strongest voices on this issue and then over

00:01:04.560 the last several months as we've been dealing with the protests and the counter protests against the

00:01:11.160 hamas terrorist attack against israel on october 7th she has stepped up even more an iranian canadian

00:01:18.760 standing with israel to defend what she believes is the right thing many people are noticing and

00:01:25.920 that's why we want to speak to goldie gamari today goldie thanks for the time thank you brian thanks

00:01:31.060 for having me on the show it's um it it's not a shock to me that you're uh being so strong on this

00:01:38.720 i met you probably about eight years ago when you were just getting into politics when you were more on

00:01:45.240 the activist and less on the uh elected side but also have known you is since you were first elected

00:01:52.140 in 2018 but what is it that makes you uh stand up and as you're doing this week speak out against

00:02:01.220 executions of dissidents in iran like reza rasai or speak out against those who are celebrating

00:02:07.980 uh soleimani the the terrorist general that was taken up by the americans uh what four years ago

00:02:13.680 so i think for me it's really important to speak out against this because you know even though i'm a

00:02:20.800 provincial politician and you know international uh foreign policy or government affairs intergovernmental

00:02:26.560 affairs isn't really within the provincial jurisdiction um you know as an iranian canadian as someone whose

00:02:33.920 parents uh came to canada in 1980 in 1986 to escape an islamo-fascist brutal dictatorship um given that

00:02:44.040 now i have this platform i i kind of feel it's like it's almost like my responsibility my obligation to

00:02:50.680 to speak out against this because what we're seeing happening in iran isn't just affecting people in iran

00:02:58.100 it's also impacting canadians like for example just like you said with uh the islamic regime in iran

00:03:05.320 shooting down ukraine flight ps752 four years ago killing 55 canadians and 30 permanent residents i mean

00:03:12.700 that impacted canadians uh we're also seeing reports coming out by dozens of families dozens of families

00:03:20.300 i mean so many so many people and you know everyone was impacted everyone knows someone

00:03:25.500 who was impacted by this and here even in canada we're seeing the rcmp come out and confirm that um

00:03:34.220 there is foreign interference happening by the islamic regime uh in iran in canada we're also seeing a

00:03:42.600 report a news report from cbc recently that came out saying that the cbsa has not only blocked dozens of

00:03:50.280 iranian officials connected with the irgc from entering canada they're also investigating at least

00:03:57.840 100 people in canada with ties to the islamic regime in iran let's talk about your backstory

00:04:05.160 then you mentioned your parents came to canada in 1986 but so did you you were born in iran and came

00:04:11.580 here at a very young age i'm not trying to give away your age here goldie but you came here at a very

00:04:17.180 young age and were raised in the suburbs of toronto it's it's it's public i'm 38

00:04:23.960 well let let's talk about that about not not about your age being 38 but this you know why did your

00:04:32.520 parents come to canada why uh did they decide that you know iran which had undergone the revolution in

00:04:38.780 1979 um why did they feel that that they needed to escape to somewhere like canada um in in the

00:04:46.180 richmond hill area outside of toronto well so we have to go back to i guess the 70s my dad actually

00:04:53.240 left iran um as a teenager to go to texas and uh got his degree in electrical engineering at texas

00:05:03.720 southern university uh in houston and he lived and he got his master's degree there as well so he lived

00:05:10.480 there for close to a decade and after he was done and when he went back to iran the islamic revolution

00:05:18.360 had already happened so you can imagine um how different the country was for him you know having

00:05:26.240 lived in in texas in the 70s and then going back to a country that was very very different than

00:05:33.240 one he had left and initially he did try to make a life there for himself he married my mother

00:05:39.780 i was born um but just the conditions were not good there was also the iran iraq war happening at that

00:05:48.500 time and there was just no safety and he just said to himself there's no way that i can raise a daughter

00:05:55.480 in this sort of society that mistreats women you know he can't raise a daughter in a society

00:06:02.440 that uh puts people in jail and uh you know just discriminates and is just you know a brutal

00:06:08.840 dictatorship so uh he decided that well yeah i think you know let if we can expand on that point

00:06:15.440 for a moment i think most of us will have seen the photos of what iran was like in the 70s before

00:06:20.560 the revolution and how women dressed how women interacted in society compared to after the

00:06:27.200 revolution i mean your mother prior to 1979 had great freedom and after 1979 had next to none 100 0.68

00:06:35.600 i mean i see um i always enjoy seeing old family photos from before 1979 because it just it looks like

00:06:44.480 a photo that could have been taken anywhere in canada in europe in the states you know people

00:06:49.420 uh were dressed just however they wanted to dress and and people were free like that was the thing

00:06:55.080 like women were free to wear the hijab or not wear the hijab you know like in my old family photos you 0.80

00:07:00.340 know there were some uh some who did you know wear wear a headscarf but again it wasn't like the full-on

00:07:05.500 sort of black chador that we see right now which is just sort of overshadowing and overblanketing

00:07:11.640 uh you know the entire woman um but there was a lot of freedom like that you know there's pictures of

00:07:17.260 um female mps you know dressed fantastically like just so fashionable you know you look at pictures 0.59

00:07:24.040 of people on the beach you know women in bikinis um there were theaters there were clubs there were

00:07:29.020 lounges it was basically just like going to any other european country um and after 1979 all of that

00:07:37.300 changed the entire thing changed and it just went from a very free liberal secular democratic society

00:07:46.360 which is something that the um the shah of iran at the time had worked very hard on to sort of

00:07:54.220 modernize and secularize iran um from the 50s to the 70s and bring iran up to sort of a western

00:08:02.520 liberal standard but after 1979 not only did it go back uh in time it went back almost like a thousand

00:08:10.860 years in time to where you know now for example a woman is not allowed to leave the country uh without 1.00

00:08:18.360 the um permission of her husband um a woman is not allowed to um go to a soccer stadium and watch a

00:08:27.720 game um women are not allowed to divorce without the consent of their husband like it's just and these

00:08:36.540 are just but i i bet it doesn't go the other way hundred percent not of course not of course not

00:08:41.220 it uh you know there's there's a term that we refer to it like what's happening in iran it's

00:08:46.580 basically a gender apartheid um it's a gender apartheid and um the reason that the islamic regime 0.79

00:08:54.260 in iran goes after women like this is is um to control and subdue and divide and conquer basically 1.00

00:09:01.820 so you know think of the handmaid's tale if you think of the handmaid's tale um sort of similar

00:09:07.980 to that in the sense that women have absolutely zero rights um and i mean you've heard about the 1.00

00:09:14.440 morality police right the morality police are these groups of plain clothes people and they basically

00:09:20.120 go around in unmarked vehicles and unmarked vans and um anyone that they feel who isn't dressed

00:09:27.420 properly um they can grab and take away and you know do god knows what to them and that's exactly

00:09:34.460 what happened to massa amini um september of last year in 2023 sorry 2022 um where she was dragged away

00:09:46.440 for not wearing the compulsory hijab properly i mean she was wearing hijab um and then you know she was

00:09:53.800 perfectly healthy but it just wasn't worn properly yeah the whoever arrested her at that time just 0.57

00:09:59.720 decided that she wasn't wearing it properly which you know again it's so like like there's no laws

00:10:05.420 there there's nothing like that so um they dragged her away and she was and for that she was beaten to

00:10:10.960 death exactly she was beaten to death she was in a coma for several days and then unfortunately she

00:10:16.220 passed away and you know that kind of trickles back to why i'm so outspoken about this because i look at

00:10:22.780 what's happening in iran i look at massa amini i look at rizzo rasai who we don't even know if he's

00:10:29.900 been executed but i mean we're waiting for news to come out everyone is sick to their stomachs about

00:10:35.060 this um you know i look at the the people on ukraine flight ps752 i mean that could have been me that

00:10:42.340 could have been my family that could have been my brother my cousin right so that that's why i'm also

00:10:46.900 really outspoken because what they're doing what the islamic regime is doing to the people of iran we look 1.00

00:10:52.700 at this and we think that could be any one of us and if we don't speak out we could be next

00:10:58.640 you know a lot of people would say well that's just iran and we don't need to have that bothering us

00:11:04.560 here in canada so why talk about it but goldie i was writing a column the other day on the anniversary

00:11:10.540 of the takedown of ps752 and i said here's why we need to start speaking out more about the

00:11:17.540 islamic republic of iran and the regime in tehran and that is because they export death and destruction 1.00

00:11:23.300 everywhere and it's not just the taking down of a plane with 55 canadian citizens and 30 permanent

00:11:29.640 residents it's they're exporting war to yemen where they're doing a proxy war uh backing the houthis 0.95

00:11:37.540 against uh um you know another group backed by saudi arabia they exported war and destruction to

00:11:43.340 syria where they're backing the uh the asad regime they are the key supporters of hezbollah

00:11:50.140 in lebanon which has turned you know a beautiful country uh and a capital city that used to be known

00:11:56.640 as the paris of the mediterranean into a place that nobody wants to go um they were the key backers of

00:12:03.440 of of hamas when they launched their october 7th attacks and you you made mention of this and i want

00:12:11.260 to hear more about it the the ongoing political political interference and harassment of canadians

00:12:18.460 in this country this is something this is one of the reasons that harper government cut off diplomatic

00:12:23.300 ties with iran is they said your diplomats are doing nothing but harassing canadian citizens wasn't

00:12:29.120 the only reason but that was part of it and they said you're out you're not welcome here yes 100 100

00:12:35.560 the trudeau government in my view has been extremely naive in trying to make up to iran since 2016

00:12:42.400 and since yes since well late 2015 when they took office and in the four years since ps752 was shut

00:12:50.780 down they haven't been very strong at all so tell tell us what's happening in the iranian canadian

00:12:57.200 community whether it's in the toronto area or in vancouver or elsewhere because you know my

00:13:03.120 understanding is there have been kidnapping plots uncovered there have been murder attempts

00:13:07.120 that on top of the just the daily harassment that's basically telling you to shut up or else

00:13:12.940 yeah i mean where where do i start on this um you know it's interesting i i remember the day that i

00:13:19.600 became a staunch conservative i remember the day that i stopped voting left because you know the saying

00:13:26.660 goes you know when you're younger you vote with your heart when when you get older you vote with your mind

00:13:31.320 or your brain i actually remember the day that i became a staunch conservative do you want to take

00:13:36.120 a guess brian i actually can't that's okay so uh you actually mentioned it so when stephen harper shut

00:13:44.360 down the iranian embassy in ottawa was the day that i became a staunch conservative because at that point

00:13:53.000 i felt like finally there is a government that understands what iranian canadians are going

00:14:01.680 through that realizes the significance of the threat of the islamic regime uh to iranian canadians

00:14:11.260 and is actually doing something about it and for me that was the day that i was like okay like

00:14:18.680 this it's it's it's go time like i started voting conservative after that and you know started

00:14:24.480 paying a little bit more attention to um to politics and what's what's going on i was actually

00:14:29.980 in my that was um 2012 would have been my third year of law school so uh you know i i became

00:14:36.680 conservative uh towards the end of my education um which is uh you know just a good thing i think for

00:14:42.820 me because you know with the way universities are being taught you know these days yeah but that's a

00:14:47.520 whole other topic um but uh but but so the the threat is real the danger is real there are uh you

00:14:58.240 know many iranians are afraid to speak out because of the fact that their family is still in iran and

00:15:05.120 the islamic regime has no problem in um going after people in canada by threatening to put their family 0.99

00:15:14.300 members in jail or actually putting their family members in jail in iran um there is no due process

00:15:20.200 there's no rule of law uh the kidnapping plots 100 percent um that is a real thing uh you know we

00:15:27.440 see what happened in the states um with masyadi nijad and the fbi um in canada recently just a few

00:15:34.180 months ago there's an iranian canadian uh well tell tell us a little bit about that so tell us a little

00:15:41.020 about her because she has spoken about what iranian dissidents in canada deal with compared to her

00:15:47.040 yeah so uh masyadi nijad is um an iranian uh who lives in the united states she has been um very

00:15:54.980 outspoken about what's happening uh inside inside the islamic regime in iran um you know and and i just

00:16:02.580 want to qualify this you know within the iranian diaspora there are those who um view her as you

00:16:09.600 know maybe trustworthy maybe not but that's but that's besides the point i i think that's um

00:16:14.620 irrelevant but um i just want to put it out there for any iranians listening but essentially what

00:16:20.040 happened is she's been very outspoken uh against the islamic regime in iran and the fbi actually

00:16:27.260 informed her a couple years ago that they had thwarted a plot to kidnap her apparently they

00:16:36.360 were going to take her by boat to somewhere in south america and then fly her over uh to the

00:16:42.600 islamic regime in iran so they can deal with her so now she is under pretty much 24 7 fbi supervision

00:16:50.420 um within canada there are a number of individuals who are currently um at risk or uh being monitored

00:17:01.040 and supervised um by security officials and rcmp uh because they recognize that there is this this

00:17:09.900 threat this imminent danger um i mean just just in the news a few days ago or i think it was last week

00:17:16.220 it came out that um uh the uh border services agency for the united states actually uh caught

00:17:26.660 an iranian who was trying to get into the states at the border and apparently this iranian uh is

00:17:34.480 connected to money laundering schemes for the islamic regime in iran in canada so that's something

00:17:40.600 that's being dealt with and people go okay well money so what but we have to think about

00:17:45.360 where this money goes where it's being funded how it's being used um the islamic regime in iran

00:17:51.700 is the biggest well it's it's money laundering so that so that they can fund terrorism 100 they are

00:17:58.080 the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world um you know you mentioned hamas the houthis

00:18:04.380 hezbollah isis al-qaeda the taliban um there's also uh nigeria and and africa as well i mean i don't

00:18:13.640 know if you've heard about what's happening in nigeria um there's a huge massacre happening there

00:18:18.340 right now um christian nigerian christians are being massacred and interestingly enough after 0.99

00:18:24.500 october 7 on october 14 um the islamic regime in iran invited the top shia cleric of nigeria

00:18:32.620 to go visit them in tehran and they had a meeting to talk about how they can continue to expand

00:18:40.000 um you know shia islam in in africa and the middle east and around the world we've got to take a quick

00:18:49.440 break here goldie but when we come back i do want to ask you about um not only your activism on this

00:18:56.140 file but speaking up against uh what the folks in iran call the little satan you have been very strong

00:19:05.480 in support of israel since the attacks on october 7th and you face backlash over that so i want to

00:19:10.980 talk to you about why you're standing up for it and the backlash when we come back

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00:20:14.720 responsibly in the wake of the october 7th attacks uh goldie you decided to start speaking out not just

00:20:22.300 on foreign affairs matters as they relate to iran and iranian canadians you were speaking out in

00:20:28.480 support of israel you have posted videos you have documented what you say are examples of anti-semitism

00:20:37.900 on the streets of um you know one of your i use the term in air quotes colleagues ndp former ndp mpp sarah

00:20:47.740 jama taking part in a a demonstration that went up bay street in toronto celebrating the attacks of

00:20:54.300 october 7th you have spoken at a rally at queen's park where police told you you know you should

00:21:01.040 really shut this down because um uh this is uh not safe you're not safe here so we we can't protect

00:21:08.960 you so so you should stop well you didn't we'll get into that but why is um uh a woman from an 1.00

00:21:16.820 iranian canadian family with a muslim background um standing up for israel at this time when so many

00:21:25.800 people would say well that just doesn't make sense to me so the history between israel and iran goes

00:21:34.180 back thousands of years uh you know 2700 years ago uh cyrus the great who was the founder of the

00:21:40.360 persian empire released the the jews from their babylonian enslavement and he took them back to 1.00

00:21:46.380 the promised land helped them build the second temple in jerusalem and provide them with soldiers

00:21:52.500 and protection and uh you know the jewish people were also able to live in the persian empire freely

00:22:00.600 and ever since then there's always been a very strong friendship and connection between

00:22:05.700 um jewish people and the iranian people prior to 1979 there were over 100 000 uh jewish iranians

00:22:14.920 living inside of iran um and they had the same freedoms that everyone else had after the 1979

00:22:24.840 um islamic revolution when the islamic regime took over everything changed um that there's a really

00:22:33.600 fantastic movie called um september of shiraz and it's it's based uh loosely based on the story of

00:22:44.060 an iranian jewish family during the 1979 revolution what happened to them uh how the islamic regime seized

00:22:51.900 all of their assets uh tortured them uh and then basically they had to uh escape the country with

00:22:58.980 just what they were carrying on their backs um so you know for 44 years 45 years now the islamic regime 0.96

00:23:05.760 in iran has uh said that the united states is the big satan and israel is the little satan um you know

00:23:15.900 when you want to talk about indoctrination for 45 years they've tried to indoctrinate iranians um you

00:23:21.400 know saying death to america death to israel it's not a meme it's not a joke that's literally what's

00:23:26.680 chanted in schools um you know they make school children chant chant that um they put on these

00:23:34.300 state-sponsored um protests quote-unquote where people chant death to america death to israel

00:23:40.660 and you know what happened in october 7 this this genocidal massacre by by hamas uh it was it was so

00:23:49.500 horrifying but for the vast majority of iranians uh not just around the world but inside of iran 0.76

00:23:56.660 uh we knew exactly where this was coming from we knew this was coming from the islamic regime in

00:24:02.280 iran um they have an agenda they have a vendetta uh you know all this talk about the zionist regime

00:24:08.980 and the zionist yeah propaganda propaganda or whatever the case like all that language that

00:24:16.160 ideology comes from uh the islamic regime in iran in fact the islamic regime in iran one week after

00:24:23.120 the revolution they created al-quds day which is basically an anti-semitic hate fest that is you 0.58

00:24:30.620 know celebrated by by islamic regime radicals um in not just in iran but in canada which to me is

00:24:38.020 actually horrifying but you know after the october 7 massacre uh the the hashtag iranians stand with

00:24:46.780 israel started trending um on on x and on other social media platforms iranians were going out in

00:24:54.740 droves to to support and speak out and that's because uh we are not the enemies of of the the

00:25:03.420 jewish people we don't hate israel uh the islamic regime in iran uh which is fighting israel is also

00:25:12.780 fighting iranians so you know we're on the same side and we understand that the the money and the 0.98

00:25:20.660 funds that are used to arm hamas is blood money stolen from iranian people so we're basically fighting 0.53

00:25:28.060 the same fight the same enemy and in fact during the the massa amini protests there is only one country

00:25:36.280 in the world uh one country in the middle east that stood with the people of iran and that was israel

00:25:43.880 israel is the only democracy in the middle east in fact um our our crown prince or you know shah

00:25:52.160 reza pahlevi the second he has visited israel in the past um we know that if we want peace in the

00:25:59.940 middle east the the key to that is not just to eradicate hamas but it's to go after the head 1.00

00:26:07.420 of the octopus which is the islamic regime anyway you've documented some of what you've seen in the

00:26:13.260 protest because to go right by your office to go by you know close to where you live when you're in

00:26:18.000 toronto and you've posted on this on various social media that's caused some headaches for you with

00:26:24.320 claims from national council of canadian muslims that you're islamophobic um what's your answer

00:26:33.400 to that i'm not islamophobic um i am islamofascist phobic i guess if you want to say um i will always

00:26:45.980 call out terrorism i will always call out anti-semitic behavior i will always call out hate um you know

00:26:54.280 something that was really shocking for me is when october 7 happened um there were people out in the

00:27:00.680 streets celebrating um not just in in in you know and i'm not talking about gaza i'm talking about

00:27:07.440 toronto i'm talking about miss i was there i watched it just very shocking to me and on october 9 as i was

00:27:15.400 walking my dog um i was shocked to see a a and it wasn't a protest it was a celebration rally like the

00:27:25.600 the advertisement for that rally said let come out and celebrate our martyrs glory to the martyrs i mean

00:27:32.520 this was well before uh israel even came up with with a response or or uh you know defense of of that

00:27:41.880 brutal massacre people were out there celebrating and sarah jama to be in that celebration to me was

00:27:49.440 just very very shocking because it was just so hateful so just just vile i mean i mean that's the

00:27:57.540 kind of behavior i would expect to see inside of the islamic regime in iran by the islamic regime

00:28:03.280 not iranians because the difference is inside of iran there has not been a single uh spontaneous

00:28:09.280 demonstration from iranians in fact after october 7 iranians were putting up flags of israel all

00:28:16.820 around iran in support of the people of israel because they they know they know where this is coming

00:28:23.720 from and yet in canada we're seeing people who were celebrating hamas

00:28:28.780 let's just define the term islamo-fascist phobic so are you talking about people who use

00:28:37.240 um islamo in a very harsh political sense a very uh strict interpretation of it in a very political 0.66

00:28:44.680 way as opposed to the religion that you know i i know that you do not practice but that some of your

00:28:52.080 family members still do the vast majority of my family members still practice islamic my grandmother

00:28:57.240 is a devout muslim and she is one of the kindest purest sweetest women that i know and um

00:29:04.100 she she does not hate anyone she does not hate israel you know the vast majority of muslims um

00:29:10.760 have you know are not like this at all like it's it's sorry the vast majority of muslims are not like 1.00

00:29:17.080 um like what we're seeing out on the streets with with that hateful behavior the vast majority of

00:29:21.220 muslims are just like everyone else they just want to live a regular normal life there's no hatred 0.97

00:29:26.160 there's nothing like that but again there's so the islamic regime in iran is is islamo-fascist 0.77

00:29:33.100 and i'm going to define that so the word islamo-fascist in farsi is velayat afari now what is it it's

00:29:40.700 basically fascism but with a religious angle to it because what they have done is is they have

00:29:47.900 created this quote-unquote guardianship of the juristic council where they have a supreme leader

00:29:55.480 in this case the supreme leader is uh hominy and they believe quote-unquote that the supreme leader

00:30:04.060 is the word of god on earth so any sort of law within the country uh anyone who runs for office

00:30:14.300 any courts um anything anything whatsoever uh has to be approved by the supreme leader so

00:30:22.660 everyone anyone who says oh it's a democracy oh there's like elections it doesn't matter it's all

00:30:29.040 bogus and what these people have done i don't think they're muslim i don't think they're religious but

00:30:34.720 what they have done is they have taken the religion and they have politicized it in order to legitimize

00:30:42.340 their control and uh authenticity i guess you want to call it over the people

00:30:49.220 it's it's a it's basically a brutal dictatorship um hiding behind the face of so uh quote-unquote

00:30:58.700 religion but that's why i always want to make that distinction because you know um it's i'm not

00:31:05.960 speaking about the religion i'm speaking about the political ideology that is is using religion to

00:31:13.680 uh export terrorism around the world let's talk about change in the regime um in iran

00:31:21.880 is that possible and are there things that canadians can do to help um i know there's been

00:31:30.380 you know pressure on the trudeau government to list the irgc as a terrorist entity something that

00:31:36.700 they've refused to do although you know at the recent four-year anniversary of ps752 the prime

00:31:42.380 minister said we'll look into it um there have been attempts at street protests including after

00:31:49.020 the uh the brutal murder of mashamini there were attempts about a decade ago and i remember people

00:31:55.460 calling on the obama administration to get behind the dissidents is there an actual dissident movement

00:32:01.220 in iran that could bring about change because this has been as you say a long 45 years of

00:32:09.140 a brutal dictatorship so i'm going to answer that in two parts the first part is the best way that

00:32:16.300 canadians can help um iranians and also help themselves and help keep their own country safe

00:32:22.860 is by putting pressure on justin trudeau to put the islamic revolutionary gar corps uh which is the

00:32:30.700 paramilitary branch of of uh the islamic regime in iran on the terror list in canada because what that

00:32:38.720 would do is that would effectively prevent the islamic regime in iran from doing business

00:32:45.560 in canada it would allow um uh the canadian government to seize assets to to freeze the funding

00:32:53.560 um you know put them back on the sanctions list that would be the best way because you know iranian 1.00

00:32:59.680 people they're not asking for world war three they're not asking for anyone to to get involved

00:33:06.800 militarily but what they are saying is stop enabling the terrorists stop meeting with them

00:33:12.960 right like why did i i still don't understand this one month after ukraine flight ps752 shot down uh

00:33:22.080 sorry was shot down by the islamic regime in iran one month later justin trudeau is meeting with the

00:33:28.640 foreign affairs minister at that time jabod zarif shaking his hand bowing his head smiling laughing

00:33:35.060 taking taking pictures with him and when i saw that i was sick to my stomach and i was thinking

00:33:40.260 how is this even possible how is it possible that the islamic regime shot down a plane killing 50 over

00:33:47.440 50 canadians and a month later you're out there shaking his hand like shame on you shame on you

00:33:53.300 but he did that and i i don't understand why and and he still refuses to put the irgc on the terrorist list

00:34:00.260 uh he's just sort of dragging it along is it just them being naive i don't think so it can't be naivete

00:34:06.680 at this point it simply cannot be like like iranians we've been sounding the alarm on this 0.99

00:34:11.660 no i don't think so i think there's something else going on i don't know what it is but i think

00:34:16.140 i think there's something else going on here i don't i mean if i had to make an educated guess

00:34:21.340 look at the number of iranians that are immigrating to canada with with money the the term that i've heard

00:34:27.280 used for that is that um officials with the iranian revolutionary guard corps are snow washing

00:34:33.480 their money in canadian real estate and capital markets that was the the phrase used by shuvaloy

00:34:39.520 majumder who used to be with the mcdonald laurie institute now recently elected mp from from calgary

00:34:45.540 for the conservatives he's been speaking about this for years and he says they've been snow washing

00:34:50.660 their money in canada and then they're allowed to live here so and this is something that once exposed

00:34:57.120 i'll give full credit to global news they did the the yeoman's work on this well then the trudeau

00:35:02.820 government started saying oh we'll look into it but they knew about it for years because people were

00:35:07.780 talking and you've got one of the leaders of the the police in tehran living in canada working out at

00:35:15.440 the gym uh next to women who are dressed in ways that he would have them beaten for in his old job 0.93

00:35:21.160 um this just seems like we you know we we've closed our eyes to to the reality of what's going on

00:35:28.360 100 100 i mean that that guy that terrorist working out at the gym and not only would he have them

00:35:36.540 beaten he would have them executed like that man is responsible or i shouldn't say man because he's not

00:35:41.600 human that terrorist is responsible for you know the deaths of 40 000 people if not more like it's just 0.87

00:35:48.520 it's horrific to see these people here and i don't think it's naivete what is the answer i don't know

00:35:54.560 uh i think uh shiv majumdar is definitely onto something um you know again like until someone

00:36:02.360 actually goes in and uh officially looks at it but i mean within the iranian community in canada we know

00:36:08.540 like it's just it doesn't make sense for certain people to come here with so much money and they just

00:36:14.300 buy these million dollar homes and and these you know billion dollar um uh assets i mean where is

00:36:21.120 this money coming from what's being done with it so it's it's very concerning it's very shocking

00:36:27.320 and they're also coming here and keeping tabs on on uh iranian canadians here so so in that sense

00:36:35.540 it's very shocking do you think that part of the foreign interference that we've discussed earlier

00:36:41.460 is why the trudeau government is the way it is and i'll point to 2016 um i was in a scrum with

00:36:49.920 stefan dion who was still justin trudeau's foreign affairs minister and he was talking about the need to

00:36:55.760 improve relations with russia saying that stephen harper had ruined relations with russia and we

00:37:01.880 really should be improving them uh with vladimir putin um it was shocking to hear then and it's even

00:37:07.720 more shocking now in hindsight but he said the same thing about the iranian regime and he said that

00:37:13.220 um it it was naive and ideological what harper did kicking out the diplomats a short time later

00:37:21.740 dion is in a meeting in richmond hill with people with connections to the iranian regime and that meeting

00:37:30.100 was facilitated by an iranian canadian liberal mp is this a case of the liberals being captured by the

00:37:39.960 the dark side of diaspora politics on this file i know exactly which uh which iranian canadian mp are

00:37:47.840 talking about i'm not going to bring his name up because uh you know we all know who he is and what

00:37:53.980 he's like he's actually the one who also tried to uh he also created a petition to try and reopen

00:38:00.540 the islamic regime embassy in canada and you know showed his true colors that way um i don't think i

00:38:08.480 don't think for for trudeau or dion this is about diaspora politics i would say for them it's i mean

00:38:15.120 the most logical uh thing for me if i had to make an educated guess would be they just care about the

00:38:19.840 money you know if it if it's if it brings money in if it's you know good for their pocketbooks i guess

00:38:27.320 i mean i can't see them really thinking about anything else other than than money here and you

00:38:34.180 know given some of the economic migrants we've seen coming from iran i mean that to me is the most

00:38:40.500 logical logical thing and and again it's shameful it's very shameful but you know i think with with

00:38:45.560 the liberals uh federally the writing is on the wall um you know four or five years ago pretty

00:38:51.600 much every single iranian um would would have been a liberal um but now it's it's pretty much

00:38:58.760 the opposite and every day more and more when i go out to events um whether it's in ottawa or in

00:39:04.440 toronto or anywhere else richmond hill um and there's iranians there the one thing that i am

00:39:09.280 predominantly hearing is we are never voting liberal again we're never voting liberal again and i think

00:39:15.040 that's why trudeau is now sort of maybe realizing okay maybe i um misjudged this and i actually do

00:39:25.160 think that he's been playing politics with iranian people iranian canadians and i have a feeling that

00:39:30.320 prior to the next election he's going to put the irgc on the terrorist list in order to uh win back some

00:39:37.780 of that iranian vote and if he does that you know shame on him shame on him for playing politics with

00:39:45.360 the the lives of iranian canadians shame on him for playing politics with uh with the blood money of

00:39:52.900 the people of iran um because i think i think even if he does that people will realize it for what it is

00:39:59.980 and and i don't think they're going to vote for him he's lost all confidence um for iranian canadians

00:40:06.280 it will be another example of canadian foreign policy being driven by diaspora politics which is

00:40:11.980 sadly what trudeau has reduced our foreign policy to goldie um there's so much more that we could

00:40:18.420 discuss we could keep talking for a lot longer but i thank you for your time today and um i know i'll

00:40:25.060 continue to follow you on social media and and what you have to say and i encourage the audience to do

00:40:29.800 the same thanks for the time thank you so much for having me on i really appreciate it full comment is a

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‘Islamofascism-phobia’ and the Iranians standing with Israel

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