Full Comment - December 19, 2022


Special： Rex Murphy in discussion with Premier Danielle Smith

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The premier of Alberta, Danielle Smith, has been in office for a little over a decade, and in that time, she has had to deal with some of the most pressing issues Alberta has ever seen. In this episode of Full Comment, she talks about what it was like growing up in the oil and gas boom of the late 1970s and early 1980s, and what it s like being a premier in a province that was in the midst of one of Canada s most turbulent periods.

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00:00:00.000 welcome to full comment thanks for joining us I'm guest host Rex Murphy and
00:00:12.240 with me today and it's an exaltation for me is the premier of Alberta Danielle
00:00:18.120 Smith small note if you're listening to this as a podcast I want to let you know
00:00:23.280 there will also be an extended video version of this conversation available
00:00:28.680 for you to watch online as well on Tuesday December 20th at national post calm so if
00:00:38.820 that's in your interest turn it on and be edified now that I want to welcome but
00:00:45.900 probably more than the normal exuberance that one welcomes a guest the fresh
00:00:51.600 premier of Alberta Daniel Smith Daniel thank you very much for agreeing to do
00:00:58.080 this well it's my pleasure Rex I've always appreciated how much you support
00:01:02.760 our province and I'm so delighted to be able to talk to you about it before we
00:01:06.360 get into and this is only be brief before we get into all of the many issues that
00:01:10.620 are there just a little personal note you didn't get to the premier's job by a
00:01:15.240 simple straight line but you did get to it what was the what was the personal
00:01:21.700 feeling having worked so long and now you're in that high chair in one of the
00:01:28.140 most controversial provinces or the province probably under the most
00:01:32.740 pressure in many ways what's it like to finally have the chair in which you can
00:01:37.240 offer at least some of the direction there have been a couple of key moments
00:01:41.980 where I said my gosh I've been waiting all my life to do this and to be able to give
00:01:48.160 direction on the parameters to develop the budget to be able to really finally
00:01:53.440 start addressing the issues in health care it's funny when you've been on the
00:01:56.860 outside talking about all the things that that need to change and I've done
00:02:00.340 that in so many different roles in so many different ways it's it's really
00:02:03.780 gratifying to be able to to make some decisions and start seeing some action so
00:02:07.720 I think I'm pretty gratified well here's what I'd like to do this in a
00:02:11.960 certain kind of way I've had the very very good luck and part of it wasn't luck
00:02:17.660 incidentally these questions are going to be fairly not they're going to be long
00:02:21.160 I was around when Alberta had its boom and when so many of the guys and women in
00:02:28.380 Newfoundland after the collapse of the fisheries and that was a desperate time
00:02:32.940 desperate unemployment it really was anxiety at the highest levels and almost
00:02:38.820 suddenly you know there was this other province way out west was having
00:02:42.520 something of a boom and it was like Providence had interceded and despite the
00:02:49.120 roughness of the Newfoundland clan of which I'm a really good example 20 to 0.99
00:02:53.860 30 thousand of our guys and girls ended up in various parts of Alberta in the
00:02:59.520 fields themselves or in ancillary industries or towering roofs or getting
00:03:04.180 into the rigs themselves I thought that was a rather wonderful moment in
00:03:08.520 confederation that when one province had hit bottom and simultaneously another was
00:03:14.640 having one of those wonderful moments that Alberta gave such easy access and by
00:03:20.680 the way improved so many lives because otherwise down here it would have been
00:03:25.380 depression and breakups of my job suddenly became available at a level of
00:03:30.000 salary in some cases that many of my cohorts didn't know so give me a little play
00:03:35.640 what it was like at that time you know it's funny you you mentioned that because I remember
00:03:41.640 hearing one of the stories that you told of a personal friend and I think you you you
00:03:45.620 did say that we saved a lot of lives and a lot of hope for a lot of people by being
00:03:50.080 able to offer good paying jobs at a time when it seemed so down and gloomy and and it's
00:03:54.900 nice to be able to see so many people learn about how our industry works and get good
00:04:00.480 paying jobs in it and now of course Newfoundland and Labrador has its own oil and gas industry
00:04:05.300 that they've been able to develop and so that that to me has been just such a wonderful
00:04:09.240 partnership between Alberta and Newfoundland and Labrador and the rest of the country too
00:04:13.860 that there always has been an opportunity when we are in our boom we reach out we call it now
00:04:19.100 our Alberta is calling campaign and say come and help us build this place and I think that really
00:04:23.660 is one of the best things about confederation. It was also remarkable because I can think of other
00:04:28.420 provinces where this didn't apply it was very remarkable how fluent and how hospitable how easy
00:04:35.620 when you get a boom in a given province the idea normally is you know we must take care of our own
00:04:42.660 first and if there is a great wave even if it's within the Canadian citizenry but if there's another
00:04:48.060 great wave from other provinces there's usually a great deal of friction but I know this particular
00:04:53.700 profile very well I've been out there a lot I'm home a lot it was so wonderful the friendships that
00:04:59.540 were made the ease in which these news people could come in and by the way I'll give you this
00:05:04.860 Newfoundlanders are almost toxically patriotic to their own piece of land Newfoundland is in their
00:05:12.280 in their souls in their shoes in their head and they could never think of going to another province
00:05:17.860 well once they got out to Alberta having these little buggers decided to stay there now it was
00:05:24.200 a great thing that one part of the country could see another part of the country this is an unsaid
00:05:29.300 element in kind of maintaining the confederation at the citizen level you agree oh it absolutely is
00:05:37.160 and you know we want to facilitate that I I've always been amazed with Fort McMurray when we start
00:05:41.940 seeing that they do direct flights to other parts of the country to make sure that even though
00:05:46.620 people do come out here to be able to to work make some money so they can raise their family
00:05:51.140 that there's an ease of them being able to also stay and return home to family and their home
00:05:56.160 communities and I think that that's that's part of it is I the only time that you you get people
00:06:01.840 feeling pretty grumpy is when you end up with a downturn in the economy yeah but when we're booming
00:06:06.900 we want everybody to to take part in that and I I think that that's maybe some of the frustration
00:06:11.620 that Alberta has had is that we are so welcoming it's a place where you can come here
00:06:15.760 you can move your family you can stay for a short time or a long time but you can build a business
00:06:21.280 and we want everybody to assist us in this in this project of building out Alberta and I I sometimes
00:06:27.260 I sometimes feel that we're we're taken for granted oftentimes feel like we're taken for granted 0.94
00:06:32.560 if you forgive me you're the premier I'm just a the idiot look around it's not the matter of Alberta 0.96
00:06:39.520 being taken for granted in the last six seven eight nine years I certainly have absorbed this 0.97
00:06:47.080 observed this the environmental organizations international organizations NGOs and protest groups
00:06:55.460 within Canada the environmental movement and the central policy of the current federal government
00:07:01.540 they're not taking Alberta for granted it looks like an almost active effort
00:07:06.640 to put Alberta on on a very dark side of the sheet to demonize its principal resort I I'm speaking for me only
00:07:17.080 I cannot think of another province whose main dynamic whose main industry especially after the generosity
00:07:24.620 during the boom has been so targeted as being the source of all either planetary destruction
00:07:32.240 or your your your ferrying dirty oil to Quebec or Fort McMurray as Neil McNeil Young said is Hiroshima
00:07:39.820 there has been a sustained negative harsh and mean campaign against this province now will you agree
00:07:48.360 with my assessment of that and if you do what damage has it done both to your economy
00:07:54.300 and also to the temperament of Albertans it has been deliberate and I did I spent some time
00:08:01.700 investigating where it came from and it's uh you've probably written about it before it was this
00:08:06.220 2008 they called it I'll put it in the air quotes tar sands camp yeah by corporate ethics supported by
00:08:13.100 tides foundation and all their other fellow travelers were literally tens of millions of dollars flowed into
00:08:19.940 our country to demonize the the oil sands and they did they did it deliberately because when you look at
00:08:27.020 their strategy document they had already had success in demonizing coal and the conversation was well 0.69
00:08:33.860 we're going to see an increase in co2 emissions because of transportation fuels driven by the America
00:08:40.220 mostly where does America get its its principal product from and they looked at Saudi Arabia and
00:08:44.980 they looked at Canada and uh and we were such an easy target and so they said well let's see if we can
00:08:50.320 choke off the supply in Canada as a way of reducing emissions in America on transportation the thing that
00:08:56.160 is so remarkable about it is they they succeeded in landlocking our resource in so many ways and yet
00:09:03.040 then you ended up with the drilling and pipeline boom in America and now they've become a net exporter
00:09:08.540 of of oil and natural gas and so I would say the entire strategy was a failure started with a very flawed
00:09:15.700 premise but we're the ones who are suffering the consequences of it the fact that they have spent
00:09:20.120 a relentless amount of time since 2008 unfairly demonizing an industry that provides not only so many jobs for us and for the rest of the country but also so much revenue for our province and for the rest of the country as well
00:09:34.740 and that's part of what we're now having to push back against it because it hasn't stopped it's continued
00:09:40.000 no no no it hasn't stopped I'd like to jump in and add one more factor during that particular period
00:09:45.020 yeah they did shut off all possible ways of getting uh pipelines that would let your product go to bigger
00:09:52.800 markets uh the campaign against the pipelines was was almost hysterical but it also has to be placed in
00:10:00.020 this context the context was that you did have a boom but then people it elides in their memory
00:10:07.040 there was a sudden and precipitous drop in the world price of oil suddenly oil was no longer there
00:10:13.460 then you had if that wasn't bad enough you had that raging almost biblical inferno in Fort McMurray
00:10:22.180 and if that wasn't enough most people don't know this I went out after the fire and then I learned that
00:10:27.820 they'd also had a flood and in the meantime Alberta's oil had dropped the offices were main offices in
00:10:34.960 downtown Toronto Calgary were being emptied it was in the context of all of that that then on on the
00:10:42.360 heap of the pile of miseries you are going through you had the federal government you had the
00:10:47.420 environmentalists you had British Columbia you had Quebec saying oh we cannot have east west we cannot
00:10:54.140 have pipelines leak taking this fuel to the United States for other markets it seemed to me they jumped
00:11:01.180 on Alberta at the hardest possible moment it did jump on us at the hardest possible moment when you
00:11:07.960 when you think about what happened in 2014 because that was the last time I was in politics there's a
00:11:12.040 major reversal in our fortunes that happened because of new technology horizontal multi-stage
00:11:17.300 tracking that opened up all the shale oil and shale gas in the U.S. and so we ended up with a
00:11:21.680 triple whammy not only did conventional oil decline and uh and natural gas decline but also our
00:11:28.120 the value of our bitumen also declined especially when you get landlocked it means that we end up
00:11:33.500 with bottlenecks and so if you've got too big a glut of supply happening on this end and no place to get
00:11:38.280 it to market we ended up seeing a massive undersale and underpricing of our resources here which lasted
00:11:44.640 for eight years we only just began to see the recovery in prices over the over the course of the last year
00:11:51.780 and so we have seen that over the period of the previous government there were 180,000 jobs lost
00:11:59.180 we ended up with six consecutive quarters of people leaving our province to go seek jobs elsewhere
00:12:05.320 former energy minister said well you may as well go to BC for a while and wait this out because that's
00:12:10.280 where the jobs are we saw a decline in venture capital was a decline in consumer confidence
00:12:15.160 everything uh the the number of stories of hardship because I was on the radio at the time for six
00:12:20.160 years I still remember one guy calling in just before uh Christmas talking about how he was going to have
00:12:28.060 to oh sorry Russ take your time there's no rush we have plenty of occasion to delay no rush
00:12:39.600 no it was like that if I can interrupt for just a second when I covered the collapse of the fish
00:12:48.380 let me just give you this as a break I went to the northeast coast
00:12:52.100 and I met a man who had I think six or seven children
00:12:55.600 third generation fishermen in his great-grandfather's house
00:12:59.620 and here's the city I'm not making I'm not elaborating it
00:13:03.200 he had to sell his house
00:13:05.520 for nothing because at that point who wanted it
00:13:09.680 to buy tickets for seven people in his family
00:13:13.160 to go to Hamilton to try to get a job
00:13:16.700 and he put his head he's a strong strong man he put his head
00:13:20.600 on the kitchen table and he cried
00:13:23.220 so when I guess it's a good thing when people lose jobs those people who continually have those jobs
00:13:29.260 have no idea of what it means in terms of emotion
00:13:32.520 in terms of family and in terms of personal dignity
00:13:36.320 anyway I interrupted you
00:13:37.640 well thank you so what I was trying to say
00:13:39.640 before I lost composure was
00:13:41.300 this one person calling in talking about
00:13:43.800 how he was going to have to lay off his entire staff
00:13:46.560 just before Christmas
00:13:47.880 and you know I think I think that is what is missing
00:13:51.100 is that when you have these campaigns
00:13:54.140 yes
00:13:55.000 against the industry
00:13:56.400 yes
00:13:56.840 that I think that there's this sense that it's
00:13:59.480 there's some almost political theater
00:14:01.280 about it from the point of view of the environmental groups
00:14:04.340 that are pushing it forward and you see the worst of it now
00:14:07.520 with the extinction rebellion
00:14:08.820 and how they're bluing themselves to the headquarters
00:14:11.020 and to streetcars and to the streets
00:14:12.860 and on the other end of that
00:14:14.860 are people who are having to make really tough decisions
00:14:18.140 about whether their business stays in operation
00:14:20.580 and really tough decisions
00:14:22.440 when somebody loses their job
00:14:24.000 about whether they stay in the industry at all
00:14:25.820 or whether they have to get retrained for something else
00:14:28.080 or whether they have to move
00:14:29.280 and so that's kind of what Alberta
00:14:31.720 has been living for you know since the since 2014
00:14:35.260 and so we're now on the cusp of turning around
00:14:38.820 and we've got this hostile federal government
00:14:41.460 that is coming through with policy after policy
00:14:44.920 after policy pronouncement
00:14:46.160 while we've been in this middle
00:14:47.240 the middle of the second of this leadership race
00:14:49.560 talking about everything from bringing in
00:14:51.660 specialized emissions caps for our oil and gas industry
00:14:54.680 specialized emissions caps on fertilizer
00:14:57.420 having new protected land areas
00:15:00.320 that's going to be federally led
00:15:01.540 telling us we can't hook up
00:15:02.920 any natural gas power plants
00:15:05.040 to our electricity grid
00:15:06.160 and this is what has happened
00:15:08.600 from our perspective
00:15:09.900 is that we're at a point now
00:15:11.520 where we can turn around
00:15:12.700 we can be a solution to the world
00:15:14.020 for energy security and energy affordability
00:15:16.380 and do it in the most environmentally sustainable way possible
00:15:18.960 and we've got a federal government
00:15:20.260 that isn't a partner
00:15:21.220 that's doing everything we possibly can
00:15:23.180 to try to continue to crush the industry
00:15:25.220 people will see this as a partisan comment
00:15:28.520 but it's not
00:15:29.120 it's a comment of fact
00:15:30.500 the central policy
00:15:32.500 of the current liberal government
00:15:34.520 is the green agenda
00:15:36.420 is net zero
00:15:38.340 is phasing out oil and gas
00:15:41.140 what net zero is
00:15:42.500 it's a phrase that must be translated
00:15:44.620 net zero means
00:15:46.260 if it means anything at all
00:15:48.380 that we are looking to the day
00:15:50.500 when we do not have any
00:15:52.820 oil and gas industry
00:15:55.340 the central policy
00:15:57.680 of the current federal government
00:15:59.340 is a policy
00:16:00.400 in my view
00:16:01.220 I'll get your views on it in a minute
00:16:02.760 in my view
00:16:04.020 it has to be
00:16:05.700 it is the direct contradiction
00:16:09.020 of the existence
00:16:10.280 of an oil and gas industry
00:16:12.000 in this country
00:16:12.880 and in particular
00:16:14.260 in particular
00:16:15.720 shutting down
00:16:16.940 we can't do it tomorrow
00:16:18.020 as the famous prime minister
00:16:19.380 once said
00:16:19.980 the ultimate result
00:16:21.780 of net zero
00:16:22.620 is that
00:16:23.780 Alberta
00:16:24.420 and any
00:16:25.400 of the
00:16:25.860 neighboring provinces
00:16:27.460 who have some oil and gas as well
00:16:29.020 that there will not be
00:16:30.600 an industry
00:16:31.440 now do you think
00:16:32.460 I'm overstating that
00:16:33.560 or do we have a federal government
00:16:35.380 that has
00:16:35.820 as its central policy
00:16:37.140 a policy
00:16:38.400 that is in direct contradiction
00:16:40.040 and working towards
00:16:41.720 the nullification
00:16:42.880 of the central industry
00:16:45.000 of a province
00:16:46.360 namely yours
00:16:47.600 I think that's where they started
00:16:49.080 for sure
00:16:49.920 that's where they started
00:16:50.880 and I don't even think
00:16:52.060 that the prime minister
00:16:52.740 has really been
00:16:53.400 even
00:16:53.980 I mean he's been very
00:16:56.340 forthright about that
00:16:57.420 saying we can't phase them out
00:16:58.720 eventually
00:16:59.400 but we are now
00:17:00.380 but we can phase them out eventually
00:17:01.460 that the very fact
00:17:02.740 that after we did
00:17:04.000 an equalization referendum here
00:17:05.960 where we got 62%
00:17:07.140 support from our people
00:17:08.620 to engage in a new conversation
00:17:10.260 with the federal government
00:17:11.220 about how we might
00:17:12.040 eliminate equalization
00:17:13.240 that was a proxy vote
00:17:14.300 to saying
00:17:15.060 we want a new relationship
00:17:16.240 with the rest of Canada
00:17:17.600 for their response
00:17:19.300 just days later
00:17:20.480 to be
00:17:21.040 to put someone in place
00:17:22.620 like Stephen Gibault
00:17:23.640 who made his reputation
00:17:26.140 scaling the CN Tower
00:17:27.640 to show his objection
00:17:29.320 to oil and natural gas
00:17:30.640 you know
00:17:31.160 one of the first things he did
00:17:32.540 because I was in business lobbying
00:17:33.960 at the time
00:17:34.540 one of the first things he did
00:17:35.700 was start what he called
00:17:36.860 a just transition consultation
00:17:39.440 and that's the language
00:17:40.760 that was used before
00:17:41.760 to just transition
00:17:43.020 coal workers
00:17:44.300 completely out of the business
00:17:45.480 so there is no question
00:17:47.040 that that is ultimately
00:17:48.300 what they had in mind
00:17:49.940 but there's a problem
00:17:51.320 that they face
00:17:52.260 the problem being
00:17:53.540 that the world needs
00:17:54.600 a reliable supply
00:17:56.360 of secure energy
00:17:57.240 that comes from
00:17:58.020 oil and natural gas
00:17:59.060 we will continue
00:18:00.000 our conversation
00:18:01.180 with Daniel Smith
00:18:02.500 in just a moment
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00:19:16.020 you're richer
00:19:16.640 than you think
00:19:17.240 we have
00:19:18.940 a strange
00:19:20.160 a disturbed
00:19:21.700 and a very anxious
00:19:22.700 world
00:19:23.220 we know that
00:19:24.520 in Europe
00:19:25.120 and Russia
00:19:25.720 that oil and gas
00:19:27.460 are more
00:19:28.200 than oil and gas
00:19:29.420 they are the leverage
00:19:31.320 of considerable
00:19:32.560 military power
00:19:33.640 most of it being
00:19:34.580 exercised negatively
00:19:35.860 we know also
00:19:37.540 that after the
00:19:39.100 overspending
00:19:39.860 during COVID
00:19:40.680 and the misdirected
00:19:41.760 spending in some
00:19:42.580 cases over COVID
00:19:43.620 has brought in
00:19:45.040 rampant inflation
00:19:46.240 you've seen
00:19:47.220 seven rises
00:19:48.040 in the bank
00:19:48.640 interest rates
00:19:49.860 we know that
00:19:51.020 people
00:19:51.340 and these are the
00:19:52.060 ones that are
00:19:52.700 always
00:19:53.520 always
00:19:54.180 on the outside
00:19:55.320 edge
00:19:56.000 people who have
00:19:57.300 truly low incomes
00:19:58.580 the 30,000
00:20:00.040 the 20,000
00:20:00.920 or on some
00:20:01.660 fixed income
00:20:02.400 I was home
00:20:03.080 in Newfoundland
00:20:03.860 just a couple
00:20:04.920 of weeks ago
00:20:05.600 and they're making
00:20:06.720 that little juggle
00:20:07.700 what will I pay
00:20:09.000 for this month
00:20:09.960 as opposed to
00:20:11.040 what I used to
00:20:12.000 be able to pay
00:20:12.820 for
00:20:13.120 do you think
00:20:14.240 Daniel
00:20:14.820 and this is a
00:20:15.480 straight question
00:20:16.180 that the
00:20:17.840 combination of
00:20:18.560 all these forces
00:20:19.360 should it get
00:20:20.380 worse
00:20:20.840 and should
00:20:22.000 finally reality
00:20:22.980 start to bite
00:20:24.100 we've been
00:20:25.340 comfortable up to
00:20:26.220 now
00:20:26.500 but reality
00:20:27.160 start to bite
00:20:27.880 and we start
00:20:28.380 to face
00:20:28.820 some hard
00:20:29.900 times
00:20:30.560 that the
00:20:31.800 federal people
00:20:32.420 in particular
00:20:33.120 and maybe
00:20:34.300 some of the
00:20:34.860 environmentalists
00:20:35.640 will realize
00:20:36.340 that the projects
00:20:37.860 they are pushing
00:20:38.620 especially at this
00:20:40.220 moment with
00:20:40.840 inflation
00:20:41.340 with world
00:20:42.240 anxiety
00:20:42.840 with food
00:20:43.760 prices rising
00:20:44.580 with poor
00:20:45.380 people not
00:20:45.940 able to make
00:20:46.680 it
00:20:46.840 that you know
00:20:47.820 something
00:20:48.120 we've been
00:20:48.640 on the wrong
00:20:49.240 path
00:20:49.780 let's go back
00:20:51.080 to what we
00:20:51.680 know
00:20:51.980 that's for
00:20:52.660 the first
00:20:53.140 time
00:20:53.640 give some
00:20:54.800 thanks that
00:20:55.580 we have
00:20:56.080 the institutions
00:20:56.920 we have
00:20:57.460 the technology
00:20:58.180 we have
00:20:58.640 the governments
00:20:59.260 that can
00:21:00.180 supply the
00:21:00.860 key resource
00:21:01.900 of every
00:21:02.680 province and
00:21:03.300 country energy
00:21:04.060 and change
00:21:05.300 it overnight
00:21:06.000 can that
00:21:07.080 happen without
00:21:07.700 hard times
00:21:08.620 we're already
00:21:10.460 seeing the
00:21:10.880 hard times
00:21:11.280 you know
00:21:13.580 every time
00:21:14.040 interest rate
00:21:14.520 goes up
00:21:15.100 it just
00:21:15.440 it strikes
00:21:16.880 some pain
00:21:17.280 in my heart
00:21:17.840 because I
00:21:18.240 remember my
00:21:18.920 parents telling
00:21:19.480 me the stories
00:21:20.260 of double
00:21:21.240 digit
00:21:21.620 interest rates
00:21:23.060 I was there
00:21:23.600 interest rates
00:21:23.900 going up to
00:21:24.400 21%
00:21:25.540 all of that
00:21:28.080 happened under
00:21:28.660 the previous
00:21:29.800 Trudeau
00:21:30.640 as well
00:21:31.140 I mean
00:21:31.360 is it any
00:21:31.880 surprise that
00:21:32.560 we're seeing
00:21:32.840 the same
00:21:33.100 thing
00:21:33.240 if you have
00:21:33.580 the same
00:21:33.940 bad policies
00:21:34.660 that result
00:21:35.180 in the same
00:21:36.040 bad outcomes
00:21:36.720 this is the
00:21:37.580 very definition
00:21:38.200 of insanity
00:21:38.760 that we're
00:21:39.100 doing this
00:21:39.540 over again
00:21:40.140 but when
00:21:40.740 people see
00:21:41.220 their interest
00:21:41.860 rates double
00:21:42.600 or triple
00:21:43.240 on their
00:21:43.600 mortgages
00:21:44.100 that's when
00:21:44.540 people are
00:21:45.640 going to have
00:21:46.600 difficulty being
00:21:47.560 able to maintain
00:21:48.200 their homes
00:21:48.840 so there is
00:21:49.840 the real danger
00:21:50.960 that if we
00:21:52.560 don't get
00:21:53.000 inflation under
00:21:53.720 control
00:21:54.180 and we
00:21:54.560 start seeing
00:21:54.960 interest rates
00:21:55.520 go up
00:21:55.880 that is
00:21:56.140 going to
00:21:56.480 cause
00:21:56.720 much more
00:21:57.700 hardship
00:21:58.060 that's what
00:21:58.520 I worry
00:21:58.940 about
00:21:59.260 because that
00:21:59.600 is sort of
00:21:59.940 the foundation
00:22:00.520 for families
00:22:01.320 is having
00:22:01.880 that secure
00:22:02.460 home base
00:22:03.100 and also the
00:22:04.140 foundation for
00:22:04.880 wealth creation
00:22:05.600 unfortunately the
00:22:07.160 environment we're in
00:22:07.820 has put all of
00:22:08.480 that at risk
00:22:09.100 the one thing
00:22:10.800 that you have
00:22:11.680 done since you
00:22:13.020 assumed the
00:22:14.320 office of
00:22:14.880 premier that
00:22:16.180 seems to have
00:22:17.040 greatly distressed
00:22:18.540 some of the
00:22:20.160 finer intellects
00:22:21.160 and obviously
00:22:22.580 most sensitive
00:22:23.560 observers over
00:22:25.080 in Ottawa and
00:22:26.440 in Toronto and
00:22:27.420 to some degree
00:22:27.960 Montreal is that
00:22:29.660 you brought up
00:22:30.200 something called
00:22:30.980 the Sovereignty
00:22:31.820 Act and in
00:22:33.540 fact I will say
00:22:34.960 so some of the
00:22:36.380 more public
00:22:36.900 people you know
00:22:37.620 people you think
00:22:38.320 have manners
00:22:39.160 have actually
00:22:40.740 used some really
00:22:41.440 nasty and
00:22:42.220 insulting things
00:22:43.140 that should not
00:22:44.020 be by the way
00:22:44.760 put in public
00:22:45.940 in terms of
00:22:46.640 an argument
00:22:47.220 A first for
00:22:49.640 you what is
00:22:51.440 the core
00:22:52.100 ambition I
00:22:54.080 don't want all
00:22:54.560 the detail
00:22:55.060 what's the core
00:22:55.900 ambition or the
00:22:56.740 core drive
00:22:57.640 behind the
00:22:59.020 Sovereignty
00:22:59.380 Act and
00:23:00.240 second why do
00:23:01.880 you think it's
00:23:02.580 getting such a
00:23:03.960 puny hostile
00:23:05.880 and dismissive
00:23:07.480 response
00:23:08.180 from what I
00:23:09.760 call the
00:23:10.140 high forwards
00:23:10.960 of all
00:23:12.000 excited and
00:23:12.800 progressive
00:23:13.140 thought in
00:23:13.840 central Canada
00:23:14.580 Well the
00:23:15.860 principal purpose
00:23:16.400 is to put up
00:23:16.960 a shield and
00:23:17.600 to tell Ottawa
00:23:18.180 stop doing
00:23:19.220 this stop
00:23:20.120 passing laws
00:23:21.140 that you have
00:23:21.640 no right to
00:23:22.020 pass that
00:23:22.480 violate the
00:23:22.920 constitution
00:23:23.340 stop passing
00:23:24.020 laws that
00:23:24.500 target our
00:23:25.400 industry
00:23:25.780 stop passing
00:23:26.840 laws that
00:23:27.740 target our
00:23:28.240 industry only
00:23:28.980 we're not
00:23:29.340 going to let
00:23:29.740 you do it
00:23:30.080 any longer
00:23:30.660 that's the
00:23:31.540 principle
00:23:31.940 the principal
00:23:32.880 purpose behind
00:23:33.840 it is to
00:23:34.680 restart that
00:23:35.280 conversation
00:23:35.880 about how
00:23:36.280 our country
00:23:36.660 is supposed
00:23:37.080 to work
00:23:37.540 and to
00:23:37.800 call them
00:23:38.180 out for
00:23:39.000 the fact
00:23:39.260 that they
00:23:39.520 are targeting
00:23:40.660 our particular
00:23:41.300 industry for
00:23:42.180 destruction and
00:23:42.980 we're just not
00:23:43.920 going to sit
00:23:44.360 back and let
00:23:44.840 that happen
00:23:45.380 so that would
00:23:46.200 be the main
00:23:47.140 issue I think
00:23:47.980 the other
00:23:48.460 you know the
00:23:49.240 I'm not sure
00:23:50.680 why it is
00:23:51.500 that the rest
00:23:52.320 of the country
00:23:52.940 has passively
00:23:54.480 sat back and
00:23:55.340 allowed Ottawa
00:23:55.900 to treat one
00:23:56.560 province this
00:23:57.240 way
00:23:57.480 I feel like
00:23:58.660 if anyone else
00:23:59.380 had been
00:23:59.660 treated this
00:24:00.200 way there
00:24:00.960 would be
00:24:01.540 supportive
00:24:02.200 columns in
00:24:03.040 the newspapers
00:24:03.780 and in
00:24:05.060 the Toronto
00:24:05.560 Star and
00:24:06.480 the Globe
00:24:07.080 and Mail
00:24:07.480 and elsewhere
00:24:08.000 and instead
00:24:09.100 us just
00:24:10.720 saying hey
00:24:11.340 look we
00:24:11.740 just want to
00:24:12.120 be treated
00:24:12.420 fairly and
00:24:13.180 treated like
00:24:13.600 Quebec and
00:24:14.200 Ottawa needs
00:24:14.700 to stay in
00:24:15.100 its own lane
00:24:15.660 the kind of
00:24:16.580 reaction has
00:24:17.000 been outrageous
00:24:17.560 but is it
00:24:18.620 because
00:24:19.340 be blunt
00:24:20.780 oh well you
00:24:21.900 know you're
00:24:22.860 not sophisticated
00:24:23.660 you're Albertans
00:24:25.480 I mean I'm
00:24:26.360 sorry I can
00:24:27.380 do this
00:24:27.760 personally
00:24:28.200 in Newfoundland
00:24:29.700 in the 50s
00:24:31.000 and 60s
00:24:32.120 we were
00:24:33.060 the second
00:24:33.700 Polish jokes 0.62
00:24:34.500 I mean
00:24:34.760 Newfoundland
00:24:35.180 just a bunch
00:24:36.120 of hillbillies
00:24:37.160 on the North
00:24:37.620 Atlantic
00:24:38.000 there's something
00:24:39.220 in the air
00:24:40.080 in the academic
00:24:40.960 air and some
00:24:41.820 of the journalistic
00:24:42.520 air well
00:24:42.880 it's Alberta
00:24:43.680 I mean
00:24:44.140 after all
00:24:45.280 what kind
00:24:45.720 of hors d'oeuvre
00:24:46.880 can you get
00:24:47.500 out there
00:24:47.880 is it class
00:24:48.820 I would hope
00:24:51.120 not
00:24:51.380 I mean I
00:24:51.820 have two
00:24:52.960 very strong
00:24:54.220 confident
00:24:55.080 successful
00:24:55.900 women 1.00
00:24:56.380 who are
00:24:57.060 leading my
00:24:57.540 effort
00:24:57.880 on the
00:24:58.560 environment
00:24:59.040 Sonia
00:24:59.560 Savage
00:24:59.880 is a
00:25:00.680 sophisticated
00:25:01.960 environmental
00:25:02.720 lawyer
00:25:03.200 who worked
00:25:03.740 in one
00:25:04.300 of the
00:25:04.520 biggest
00:25:04.760 companies
00:25:05.180 that we
00:25:05.480 have
00:25:05.880 in Canada
00:25:07.360 Enbridge
00:25:07.940 Pipelines
00:25:08.540 Kasha
00:25:09.520 Paquette
00:25:10.060 who's her
00:25:11.480 deputy
00:25:11.720 minister
00:25:12.100 came from
00:25:12.540 the world
00:25:12.940 of international
00:25:13.620 finance
00:25:14.220 she's been
00:25:15.360 talking about
00:25:16.020 how we
00:25:16.400 develop
00:25:16.740 proper
00:25:17.280 metrics
00:25:17.880 around
00:25:18.120 environmental
00:25:18.520 social
00:25:18.940 and governance
00:25:19.420 issues
00:25:19.760 so we
00:25:20.080 can continue
00:25:20.640 to attract
00:25:21.220 billions
00:25:21.880 of dollars
00:25:22.320 worth of
00:25:22.680 investment
00:25:23.120 those are
00:25:24.860 the two
00:25:25.080 that led
00:25:25.380 my delegation
00:25:26.080 to COP27
00:25:26.900 we have
00:25:27.440 very
00:25:27.840 sophisticated
00:25:28.640 individuals
00:25:29.980 in senior
00:25:31.440 positions
00:25:32.020 that are
00:25:33.000 prepared to
00:25:33.620 have a
00:25:34.460 conversation
00:25:35.000 about this
00:25:35.620 in a way
00:25:36.560 that I
00:25:37.040 think is
00:25:37.460 going to
00:25:37.760 benefit the
00:25:38.200 entire
00:25:38.520 country
00:25:38.940 and we
00:25:39.600 shouldn't be
00:25:40.000 treated
00:25:40.240 in that
00:25:41.980 dismissive
00:25:42.520 way
00:25:42.760 it's
00:25:43.440 offensive
00:25:44.040 that we
00:25:44.580 should be
00:25:44.860 treated
00:25:45.140 in such
00:25:46.200 a dismissive
00:25:46.740 way
00:25:46.860 this is
00:25:47.140 the second
00:25:48.480 last
00:25:48.900 this is
00:25:49.500 the tag
00:25:49.980 but it's
00:25:50.280 not a
00:25:50.480 small
00:25:50.760 tag
00:25:51.180 it was
00:25:52.260 one thing
00:25:52.840 for the
00:25:53.820 I call
00:25:54.900 them
00:25:55.060 the green
00:25:55.780 zealots
00:25:56.260 the absolutely
00:25:57.720 loony green
00:25:58.780 zealots 0.67
00:25:59.160 gluing themselves
00:25:59.960 to paintings
00:26:00.520 it was one
00:26:01.380 thing to go
00:26:01.760 after all
00:26:02.240 the gas
00:26:02.860 and now we
00:26:03.880 have the
00:26:04.160 Trudeau
00:26:04.440 administration
00:26:05.040 there a
00:26:05.440 couple of
00:26:05.720 months back
00:26:06.280 saying
00:26:07.200 essentially
00:26:07.760 I think
00:26:08.820 now we
00:26:09.140 should get
00:26:09.440 into farming
00:26:09.980 and we
00:26:10.920 should cut
00:26:11.560 down
00:26:11.940 access to
00:26:13.120 I'll use
00:26:13.840 the easy
00:26:14.240 term
00:26:14.560 fertilizer
00:26:15.500 to
00:26:16.060 where do
00:26:18.960 these people
00:26:19.540 get these
00:26:20.080 ideas that
00:26:20.860 industries
00:26:21.400 that are
00:26:21.800 working
00:26:22.120 agriculture
00:26:22.800 and energy
00:26:23.840 are the
00:26:24.500 basic
00:26:24.980 and that
00:26:25.940 you're now
00:26:26.320 going to
00:26:26.580 play some 1.00
00:26:27.000 stupid 1.00
00:26:27.520 experiment 1.00
00:26:28.040 with
00:26:28.340 farmers
00:26:28.920 to
00:26:30.040 satisfy
00:26:30.600 this
00:26:31.000 manic
00:26:31.900 theory
00:26:32.480 that the
00:26:33.340 world
00:26:33.600 ends in
00:26:34.040 the year
00:26:34.340 2100
00:26:35.420 can't they
00:26:37.460 leave
00:26:37.700 farmers
00:26:38.060 alone
00:26:38.440 I think
00:26:39.380 that
00:26:39.620 well
00:26:39.860 the nice
00:26:40.380 part
00:26:40.620 about
00:26:40.940 that
00:26:41.300 is that
00:26:41.620 they've
00:26:42.040 now
00:26:42.320 certainly
00:26:43.060 lit a
00:26:43.540 fire
00:26:43.800 under
00:26:44.200 Saskatchewan
00:26:44.920 Premier
00:26:45.280 Scott
00:26:45.660 Moe 0.99
00:26:45.900 because
00:26:46.240 in point
00:26:46.660 of fact
00:26:46.960 he beat
00:26:47.440 me
00:26:47.640 to
00:26:47.960 his
00:26:48.400 version
00:26:48.740 of the
00:26:49.020 sovereignty
00:26:49.340 act
00:26:49.580 he called
00:26:49.860 the
00:26:50.100 Saskatchewan
00:26:50.620 first act
00:26:51.260 and he
00:26:52.440 also was
00:26:53.360 really strong
00:26:54.120 in pushing
00:26:54.980 back
00:26:55.140 well
00:26:55.300 remember this
00:26:56.560 because while
00:26:57.040 they were
00:26:57.280 coming through
00:26:57.760 with these
00:26:58.180 offensive public
00:26:59.020 pronouncements
00:26:59.520 we were in
00:26:59.900 the middle
00:27:00.100 of a leadership
00:27:00.580 race
00:27:01.020 in our
00:27:01.680 province
00:27:02.000 we didn't
00:27:02.340 even have a
00:27:02.840 voice to be
00:27:03.340 able to defend
00:27:03.940 against that
00:27:04.760 and so
00:27:05.340 Scott Moe
00:27:05.920 stood up
00:27:06.380 and blessed
00:27:07.140 that he did
00:27:07.960 and said
00:27:08.320 we're just not
00:27:09.260 going to do it
00:27:09.780 we're not going
00:27:10.600 to allow
00:27:11.080 for the federal
00:27:11.880 government
00:27:12.280 to have
00:27:13.140 an emissions
00:27:14.400 cap on
00:27:14.880 fertilizer
00:27:15.320 which would be
00:27:16.080 a de facto
00:27:16.640 production cap
00:27:17.540 which would reduce
00:27:18.120 food production
00:27:18.760 we're not going
00:27:19.680 to allow
00:27:20.100 federal agents
00:27:20.960 to come on
00:27:21.520 to private
00:27:21.940 property
00:27:22.340 and start
00:27:22.780 testing the
00:27:23.340 water for
00:27:23.800 nitrogen levels
00:27:24.540 we'll charge
00:27:25.240 them with
00:27:25.560 trespassing
00:27:26.240 so I've been
00:27:27.480 greatly inspired
00:27:29.020 by seeing what
00:27:30.060 Scott Moe
00:27:30.660 has done
00:27:31.100 and I think
00:27:31.500 more provinces
00:27:32.500 will have to
00:27:33.120 work together
00:27:33.640 to push back
00:27:34.680 against that
00:27:35.540 but where did
00:27:36.720 the bad ideas
00:27:37.220 come from
00:27:37.680 I think
00:27:38.640 you have
00:27:39.320 I think the
00:27:39.980 prime minister
00:27:40.600 when he got
00:27:41.260 elected
00:27:41.600 do you remember
00:27:42.040 one of the
00:27:42.440 first things
00:27:42.880 he did
00:27:43.240 was went
00:27:43.620 to the
00:27:43.920 UN
00:27:44.160 and said
00:27:45.320 we're back
00:27:46.220 yeah I know
00:27:46.760 and I think
00:27:48.140 what it is
00:27:49.140 is for some
00:27:49.920 for some
00:27:50.820 reason
00:27:51.200 he just wants
00:27:52.440 to be seen
00:27:53.580 as
00:27:54.040 I don't know
00:27:55.380 if there's some
00:27:55.960 in club
00:27:56.480 that he wants
00:27:56.960 to be able
00:27:57.320 to get some
00:27:57.760 kudos and credit
00:27:58.500 in but it's
00:27:59.060 like he takes
00:27:59.660 all of the
00:28:00.420 worst and most
00:28:01.360 extreme
00:28:02.000 environmental ideas
00:28:03.660 and brings them
00:28:04.800 back for
00:28:05.400 showcase in
00:28:06.000 Canada
00:28:06.340 this one on
00:28:07.400 the fertilizer
00:28:07.900 in particular
00:28:08.620 it's happening
00:28:09.660 in the Netherlands
00:28:10.240 3,000 farms
00:28:11.840 are going to
00:28:12.380 be just
00:28:13.680 taken off
00:28:14.300 this is insane
00:28:15.460 you know that
00:28:16.120 it is insane
00:28:17.060 and I think
00:28:17.520 that's what
00:28:17.840 we have to
00:28:18.280 understand
00:28:18.840 is that
00:28:19.500 the federal
00:28:21.060 government
00:28:21.480 begins with
00:28:22.460 a premise
00:28:22.880 that seems
00:28:23.380 perfectly
00:28:23.940 reasonable
00:28:24.460 oh well of
00:28:25.280 course we
00:28:25.740 don't want
00:28:26.080 to see
00:28:26.380 nitrogen
00:28:26.800 going into
00:28:27.420 our water
00:28:28.040 because we're
00:28:29.000 applying excess
00:28:29.780 fertilizer
00:28:30.360 and it's going
00:28:31.160 to impact
00:28:31.760 our water
00:28:32.180 systems
00:28:32.520 okay that
00:28:33.100 seems very
00:28:33.520 reasonable
00:28:33.820 but it's
00:28:34.280 not occurring
00:28:35.440 in western
00:28:36.440 Canada
00:28:36.980 in western
00:28:37.460 Canada
00:28:37.860 we do
00:28:38.560 precision
00:28:39.000 application
00:28:39.680 of all
00:28:40.540 of our
00:28:40.780 farm
00:28:41.000 inputs
00:28:41.240 because it
00:28:41.720 costs money
00:28:42.340 nobody wants
00:28:43.140 to put
00:28:43.580 an excess
00:28:44.360 amount of
00:28:44.680 chemicals
00:28:45.000 on their
00:28:45.420 field
00:28:45.640 because
00:28:45.900 they want
00:28:46.540 to be
00:28:46.720 able to
00:28:47.040 produce
00:28:47.320 food
00:28:47.700 with the
00:28:48.280 most efficient
00:28:48.740 way
00:28:48.960 possible
00:28:49.480 and so
00:28:50.040 they're
00:28:50.920 applying
00:28:51.400 things that
00:28:52.260 are happening
00:28:52.720 internationally
00:28:53.460 to an
00:28:54.300 environment
00:28:54.700 that is a
00:28:55.960 construct
00:28:56.440 here
00:28:57.060 and they're
00:28:57.460 doing it
00:28:58.000 in a way
00:28:58.380 that is
00:28:58.620 going to
00:28:59.000 result
00:28:59.360 in food
00:29:00.020 insecurity
00:29:00.520 and it's
00:29:00.920 going to
00:29:01.200 result in
00:29:01.660 the decline
00:29:02.040 in food
00:29:02.340 production
00:29:02.840 here's
00:29:04.620 a wrap
00:29:05.540 up thought
00:29:06.160 the very
00:29:07.840 bureaucrats
00:29:09.280 light-minded
00:29:11.340 politicians
00:29:12.100 who have
00:29:13.420 had no
00:29:13.960 direct
00:29:14.360 experience
00:29:14.960 who haven't
00:29:15.580 worked in
00:29:16.100 these
00:29:16.320 haven't worked
00:29:17.100 in oil
00:29:17.420 and gas
00:29:17.980 have not
00:29:18.760 been farmers
00:29:19.520 are not
00:29:20.320 familiar with
00:29:21.140 the entire
00:29:21.920 complex
00:29:22.740 arrangement
00:29:23.360 of forces
00:29:24.500 circumstances
00:29:25.320 finance
00:29:25.880 equipment
00:29:26.540 the
00:29:27.280 tremendous
00:29:28.500 complexity
00:29:29.260 of keeping
00:29:30.320 those two
00:29:30.860 industries
00:29:31.300 going
00:29:31.660 they know
00:29:32.220 nothing of
00:29:32.860 them
00:29:33.040 they know
00:29:33.500 as much
00:29:33.860 about
00:29:34.140 that
00:29:34.580 as I
00:29:35.340 know
00:29:35.600 about
00:29:36.020 Fermat's
00:29:37.320 last
00:29:37.660 theorem
00:29:38.100 and they're
00:29:38.980 passing laws
00:29:39.860 in Ottawa
00:29:40.400 on an
00:29:41.320 industry
00:29:41.780 in two
00:29:42.560 industries
00:29:43.040 they really
00:29:44.000 have no
00:29:44.500 acquaintance
00:29:45.120 with except
00:29:45.640 on paper
00:29:46.400 and are
00:29:47.420 willing to
00:29:47.840 take that
00:29:48.360 kind of
00:29:48.840 huge gamble
00:29:49.680 and assume
00:29:50.740 that as soon
00:29:51.840 as they issue
00:29:52.480 the edict
00:29:53.240 well you
00:29:54.140 second tier
00:29:55.100 premiers
00:29:55.580 are going
00:29:56.820 to have to
00:29:57.300 accept it
00:29:57.940 and that's
00:29:58.720 me ready
00:29:59.120 before we
00:29:59.920 make a
00:30:00.820 conclusion
00:30:01.200 here's the
00:30:01.640 best way
00:30:02.000 to bring
00:30:02.300 this by
00:30:02.840 May
00:30:03.160 to an
00:30:04.240 end
00:30:04.540 no question
00:30:05.720 to you
00:30:06.280 you've been
00:30:07.220 in the office
00:30:07.780 now for
00:30:08.240 some months
00:30:08.840 you've had
00:30:09.380 a long
00:30:09.800 experience
00:30:10.240 so there's
00:30:10.640 a lot
00:30:10.880 behind it
00:30:11.600 give yourself
00:30:12.840 some time
00:30:13.340 to give
00:30:14.280 a bit
00:30:14.540 of concentration
00:30:15.380 just tell
00:30:17.240 me in
00:30:17.720 under two
00:30:18.580 or three
00:30:18.960 minutes
00:30:19.460 the two
00:30:20.860 or three
00:30:21.320 things that
00:30:22.040 are of
00:30:22.420 most concern
00:30:23.560 to you
00:30:24.080 and your
00:30:24.400 province
00:30:24.860 or a
00:30:25.920 message that
00:30:26.480 you would
00:30:26.760 most like
00:30:27.380 received
00:30:28.140 outside of
00:30:29.380 your province
00:30:29.980 in Ottawa
00:30:31.000 or to
00:30:32.460 the general
00:30:33.020 media
00:30:33.460 whatever it
00:30:34.600 is you
00:30:35.120 wish to
00:30:35.580 say
00:30:35.860 well the
00:30:37.780 main thing
00:30:38.480 I would
00:30:39.080 say is
00:30:39.980 that when
00:30:40.800 Alberta does
00:30:41.420 well the rest
00:30:41.920 of the country
00:30:42.380 does well
00:30:42.920 and people
00:30:43.880 should be
00:30:44.180 cheering us
00:30:44.680 along
00:30:45.060 people should
00:30:45.720 be cheering
00:30:46.380 us along
00:30:46.780 knowing that
00:30:47.960 we have got
00:30:48.640 an industry
00:30:49.260 that they can
00:30:49.820 be proud of
00:30:50.520 that is at
00:30:51.260 the forefront
00:30:51.800 of technology
00:30:52.920 in developing
00:30:53.760 the best ways
00:30:54.420 to develop
00:30:54.900 our resources
00:30:55.520 that is
00:30:56.660 environmentally
00:30:57.040 responsible
00:30:57.740 and that
00:30:58.400 we can
00:30:58.780 provide
00:30:59.180 energy
00:30:59.940 security
00:31:00.460 not only
00:31:01.180 to our
00:31:02.260 friends
00:31:02.820 in the rest
00:31:03.240 of the
00:31:03.440 country
00:31:03.720 but also
00:31:04.220 our allies
00:31:04.780 internationally
00:31:05.460 and we can
00:31:06.140 provide
00:31:06.820 affordable
00:31:07.400 energy
00:31:08.240 as well
00:31:08.820 so that
00:31:09.480 people aren't
00:31:10.020 faced with
00:31:10.640 these kinds
00:31:11.140 of really
00:31:11.580 difficult
00:31:12.000 decisions
00:31:12.600 every time
00:31:13.600 especially
00:31:14.000 when we get
00:31:14.480 into winter
00:31:15.520 of how
00:31:16.680 to manage
00:31:18.220 all of
00:31:18.660 the rising
00:31:19.460 costs
00:31:19.820 associated
00:31:20.300 with energy
00:31:20.960 Alberta
00:31:21.960 is the
00:31:22.520 solution
00:31:22.900 to so many
00:31:23.540 of these
00:31:23.860 problems
00:31:24.300 and all
00:31:25.020 we really
00:31:25.400 want
00:31:25.800 is to be
00:31:26.640 left alone
00:31:27.380 is to
00:31:28.340 allow for
00:31:29.080 some benefit
00:31:29.960 of the doubt
00:31:30.540 that we care
00:31:31.500 about the
00:31:32.040 environment
00:31:32.400 we care about
00:31:33.000 the planet
00:31:33.480 if you come
00:31:34.120 to this
00:31:34.480 beautiful province
00:31:35.280 you will find
00:31:36.380 that our
00:31:36.980 principal city
00:31:37.920 for investment
00:31:38.580 Calgary
00:31:39.080 is located
00:31:39.680 right near
00:31:40.120 the mountains
00:31:40.560 so people
00:31:40.960 can hike
00:31:41.540 and go
00:31:41.860 outdoors
00:31:42.320 and ski
00:31:43.000 and enjoy
00:31:43.620 the beautiful
00:31:44.280 environment
00:31:45.200 that we have
00:31:45.840 here
00:31:46.140 you don't
00:31:47.020 have to
00:31:47.280 scratch the
00:31:47.680 surface
00:31:47.980 of an
00:31:48.460 Albertan
00:31:48.860 very deep
00:31:49.420 to see
00:31:49.900 an incredible
00:31:50.660 love of
00:31:51.540 the outdoors
00:31:52.040 and the
00:31:52.320 environment
00:31:52.700 and hunting
00:31:53.600 and
00:31:54.000 conservation
00:31:54.480 and being
00:31:55.680 able to
00:31:56.060 preserve
00:31:56.320 all of
00:31:56.740 that
00:31:56.920 and I'm
00:31:57.480 not quite
00:31:57.840 sure
00:31:58.100 why it
00:31:58.740 is that
00:31:59.200 people
00:31:59.740 don't
00:32:00.200 believe
00:32:00.480 and don't
00:32:00.840 understand
00:32:01.140 that those
00:32:01.420 two things
00:32:01.800 go together
00:32:02.340 we want
00:32:03.440 to be
00:32:03.680 responsible
00:32:04.460 we want
00:32:04.800 to be
00:32:05.120 a contributor
00:32:06.060 to confederation
00:32:07.040 but we're
00:32:07.860 not going to
00:32:08.180 put up
00:32:08.520 with this
00:32:09.340 any longer
00:32:09.860 we're not
00:32:10.200 going to
00:32:10.380 put up
00:32:10.760 with the
00:32:11.420 rest of
00:32:11.700 the country
00:32:12.100 saying
00:32:12.520 keep on
00:32:13.600 giving
00:32:13.860 through
00:32:14.300 equalization
00:32:14.960 and other
00:32:15.580 transfers 0.52
00:32:16.040 and we're
00:32:16.920 going to
00:32:17.540 systematically
00:32:18.080 work on
00:32:18.600 shutting
00:32:18.860 your industry
00:32:19.340 down
00:32:19.660 that's not
00:32:20.320 all
00:32:20.500 we're going
00:32:21.640 to make
00:32:22.100 sure that we
00:32:22.480 develop our
00:32:23.000 industry
00:32:23.340 and do it
00:32:23.920 in a way
00:32:24.200 that addresses
00:32:24.740 the environmental
00:32:25.360 concerns
00:32:25.900 so people
00:32:26.320 have confidence
00:32:27.040 but Ottawa
00:32:28.080 isn't going to
00:32:28.560 dictate our
00:32:29.000 policies anymore
00:32:29.940 premier smith
00:32:31.500 a it was
00:32:33.500 generous to
00:32:34.100 sacrifice
00:32:34.520 something
00:32:35.080 of a
00:32:35.920 splendid
00:32:36.280 Alberta
00:32:36.800 Saturday
00:32:37.340 to talk
00:32:38.340 to this 1.00
00:32:38.680 poor fool 1.00
00:32:39.240 over here 1.00
00:32:39.780 I much
00:32:40.780 appreciate
00:32:41.460 the courtesy
00:32:42.140 that you
00:32:42.580 give us
00:32:42.980 and I can
00:32:43.920 also wish
00:32:44.500 you and
00:32:45.300 wish you
00:32:45.780 personally
00:32:46.260 and sincerely
00:32:46.880 that some
00:32:48.000 of the
00:32:48.400 calamities
00:32:49.260 and some
00:32:50.400 of the
00:32:50.640 restrictions
00:32:51.100 that have
00:32:51.600 been placed
00:32:52.040 on I
00:32:52.640 think
00:32:52.980 as I've
00:32:53.680 said early
00:32:54.060 on a
00:32:55.020 very giving
00:32:55.800 province
00:32:56.480 are finally
00:32:57.480 lifted
00:32:57.900 and you
00:32:58.620 get at
00:32:59.020 least a
00:32:59.520 fair chance
00:33:00.280 to operate
00:33:01.420 as every
00:33:02.020 other province
00:33:02.740 so thank
00:33:03.640 you very
00:33:04.640 much
00:33:04.780 you know
00:33:04.940 Rex maybe
00:33:05.380 I should
00:33:05.680 say one
00:33:06.040 more thing
00:33:06.500 because Alberta
00:33:07.280 is calling
00:33:07.800 again because
00:33:08.740 we are going
00:33:09.460 to boom
00:33:09.800 and we're
00:33:10.720 going to
00:33:10.880 boom on all
00:33:11.460 fronts on
00:33:11.920 all sectors
00:33:12.540 and this is
00:33:13.520 one of the
00:33:13.880 most welcoming
00:33:14.420 places on
00:33:15.040 the planet
00:33:15.500 and we want
00:33:16.420 people to
00:33:16.740 come here
00:33:17.040 and if
00:33:17.540 things aren't
00:33:18.180 working out
00:33:19.080 in your
00:33:19.340 home province
00:33:19.920 and you're
00:33:21.140 facing unemployment
00:33:22.140 you want to
00:33:22.700 look for an
00:33:23.040 opportunity
00:33:23.440 this is the
00:33:24.040 place to do
00:33:24.540 it
00:33:24.740 and so I
00:33:25.580 hope more
00:33:25.900 people will
00:33:26.340 come here
00:33:26.700 and see
00:33:27.060 all the
00:33:27.780 reasons why
00:33:28.320 I love
00:33:28.740 this place
00:33:29.120 so much
00:33:29.520 and hopefully
00:33:30.640 develop some
00:33:31.260 of the same
00:33:31.680 appreciation
00:33:32.300 that you have
00:33:33.640 for our
00:33:33.880 province
00:33:34.100 you've been
00:33:34.420 such a great
00:33:34.880 champion for
00:33:35.500 us and I
00:33:35.860 appreciate that
00:33:36.560 I'm going to
00:33:37.160 be on a
00:33:37.520 plane tomorrow
00:33:38.060 morning
00:33:38.520 thank you
00:33:40.440 for submitting
00:33:42.840 to this long
00:33:44.060 hour on a
00:33:44.760 Saturday morning
00:33:45.380 it was very
00:33:46.240 very good to
00:33:46.860 have her here 1.00
00:33:48.000 and to hear
00:33:49.000 from her
00:33:49.760 the central
00:33:50.780 challenges
00:33:51.360 of the
00:33:52.220 province of
00:33:54.000 Alberta
00:33:54.360 after
00:33:55.720 remember
00:33:56.780 this will
00:33:58.040 be available
00:33:58.600 in an
00:33:59.380 extended
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